Louder with Crowder - #122 DEAR WHITE PEOPLE! Ted Cruz and Gavin McInnes Guest | Louder With Crowder

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00:00:17.000 This person spanked a senator this week. 1.00

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00:05:10.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.98

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00:05:22.000 We are good.

00:05:22.000 And, of course, at G. Morgan Jr.

00:05:24.000 in the studio with us today.

00:05:26.000 Yes, sir.

00:05:26.000 There we go.

00:05:27.000 What are you doing?

00:05:27.000 Like Babe Ruth pointing out?

00:05:28.000 No, I'm just pointing to the people.

00:05:30.000 The people want to see the point.

00:05:31.000 Oh, you're not supposed to act like there's a camera.

00:05:33.000 We need to teach him.

00:05:34.000 He's such a hack.

00:05:35.000 I don't know why we brought him in here in the first place.

00:05:36.000 I didn't say camera.

00:05:36.000 I said people.

00:05:37.000 Gavin McInnes, stop speaking with your finger.

00:05:41.000 This isn't 3D. There's no purpose to it.

00:05:45.000 Gavin McInnes.

00:05:46.000 Gavin McInnes is going to be on later.

00:05:47.000 We have another surprise guest.

00:05:48.000 We don't know who that's going to be yet, but we'll be reading your tweets live with said guest.

00:05:53.000 Incredibly excited for today's show.

00:05:54.000 A lot of controversy to get to.

00:05:56.000 Right off the bat, we talked about earlier in the week, remember this, Japan refused to accept any refugees.

00:06:02.000 There were no protests because Japanese people are, let's be honest, racist. 0.94

00:06:09.000 Well noted. 0.97

00:06:10.000 Yeah.

00:06:11.000 But they make great video games.

00:06:12.000 They do.

00:06:13.000 Yoshi could only have been thought up by a Japanese person.

00:06:16.000 Also, they have splendid drugs, hence Yoshi.

00:06:19.000 So, no one seems too upset.

00:06:21.000 Well, now France is following in their direction.

00:06:23.000 They are going to build a wall to protect the Eiffel Tower.

00:06:28.000 So, a couple points there. 0.91

00:06:30.000 France is clearly racist.

00:06:33.000 Also, walls work.

00:06:34.000 Yes. 1.00

00:06:35.000 So I think there's a moral to this Aesop fable is, look before you make stupid arguments against an immigration wall. 0.99

00:06:44.000 But it turns out, you know, France, this was a long time coming. 0.99

00:06:47.000 They were in dire need, as you can see.

00:06:50.000 At some point, you've got to, I mean, they force your hand.

00:06:52.000 That's tough.

00:06:53.000 They force your hand.

00:06:55.000 Nice little stereotype in there with a croissant. 0.96

00:06:57.000 I don't know who did that.

00:06:57.000 Good touch.

00:06:59.000 So this is good now, too, because, you know, Assad, talking about Syrian President Assad, did say definitively, in fact, he said, of course, Of course!

00:07:07.000 As Cenk would say, our favorite Armenian genocide denier in chief, there are terrorists coming in with refugees. 1.00

00:07:15.000 Who would have thought?

00:07:17.000 How are we always vindicated?

00:07:20.000 There's no segue here. 0.98

00:07:21.000 Speaking of things that suck, I guess, kind of like... 0.99

00:07:25.000 It's bad. 0.99

00:07:26.000 It'll ruin your day.

00:07:26.000 You know what else will ruin your day?

00:07:28.000 This is hashtag trending all over the place.

00:07:31.000 Netflix has decided to release a new series based on a film of the same name, Dear White People.

00:07:38.000 Here's what they have to offer.

00:07:41.000 Dear white people, here's a list of acceptable Halloween costumes. 0.99

00:07:46.000 Pirate, slutty nurse, any of our first 43 presidents. 0.99

00:07:51.000 Top of the list of unacceptable costumes? 0.94

00:07:55.000 me you know now I know that could seem offensive to some but most important to me is I feel like they're treading on very very thin ice as far as copyright because Did you catch a two?

00:08:20.000 Yeah.

00:08:20.000 You caught that.

00:08:21.000 I think this has been done before.

00:08:23.000 One would almost say the comparisons are too close for comfort.

00:08:29.000 Dear Not Not Gay People, here's a list of acceptable Halloween costumes. 0.99

00:08:36.000 Pirates, slutty nurse, wolf blitzer. 0.99

00:08:40.000 Top of the list of unacceptable costumes? 1.00

00:08:44.000 Me.

00:08:45.000 Did you see those similarities?

00:08:56.000 What hacks those people?

00:08:57.000 I don't know.

00:08:58.000 I'm only offended by their lack of originality.

00:09:01.000 So right away, Dear White People, Gizmodo is painting all of the people who dislike this Netflix program called Dear White People, a program designed exclusively to excoriate people of the white race.

00:09:15.000 They want to paint them all as alt-right.

00:09:17.000 They want to paint them as all racist.

00:09:19.000 Here's something that's important to note.

00:09:20.000 A couple of things here.

00:09:22.000 This is based on a film.

00:09:24.000 Did you know this?

00:09:25.000 They actually had a film.

00:09:26.000 Yeah, there was a film, Dear White People.

00:09:27.000 It was out for two and a half hours, right?

00:09:28.000 Yeah, there was a film, Dear White People.

00:09:29.000 Now, people like to say it was funded.

00:09:30.000 It was $50,000.

00:09:32.000 No, actually, the budget at shooting was north of a million dollars.

00:09:35.000 That doesn't include any advertising budget.

00:09:36.000 I saw posters for this everywhere.

00:09:38.000 You did, too, right, Nakay, Jared?

00:09:40.000 All over the place.

00:09:41.000 Didn't you, Nakay, Jared?

00:09:42.000 I couldn't stop seeing them.

00:09:42.000 Yeah, I saw them.

00:09:43.000 I couldn't stop seeing them.

00:09:44.000 My timeline...

00:09:44.000 And then they went away because...

00:09:46.000 No one saw them.

00:09:47.000 Because no one saw them.

00:09:49.000 But here's the thing.

00:09:50.000 So a $1 million budget plus advertising, which I guess would be several million dollars.

00:09:55.000 They don't disclose those numbers.

00:09:56.000 And a $4 million gross.

00:09:58.000 I guess internationally $5 million gross.

00:10:00.000 This is not a successful film.

00:10:04.000 Okay, we need to understand that it was not a successful film, which tells you something.

00:10:07.000 This tells you that it's not even a profit motive for Netflix.

00:10:10.000 It's an ideological one.

00:10:11.000 As a matter of fact, Netflix here, they're willing to forego a profitable business model because they think that their agenda is oh so important to thrust upon you.

00:10:20.000 That's why people are getting really tired of, I hate to use the term mainstream media, but the leftist entertainment establishment and places like Netflix.

00:10:29.000 This isn't even a successful show.

00:10:34.000 Big films.

00:10:35.000 Fargo, for one.

00:10:37.000 Fargo was a great series.

00:10:37.000 Fargo?

00:10:38.000 Was it a great series?

00:10:39.000 Yeah, it was actually very good.

00:10:41.000 But yeah, there's a certain amount of honesty and profit, I think, that even if you disagree with the greed, whatever you want to call it, at least there's a clear motive for it.

00:10:50.000 If there's not monetary something to gain...

00:10:52.000 You see it with Hollywood.

00:10:53.000 We talked about this.

00:10:54.000 They did it with Redacted, Lions for Lambs, Rendition.

00:10:56.000 They had a whole slew of anti-war films.

00:10:58.000 And you see it with this.

00:11:00.000 So be aware of what they're trying to feed you.

00:11:01.000 And I bet you, I would be willing to bet, it probably won't be very successful.

00:11:04.000 And they'll keep it on anyways. 0.98

00:11:05.000 They'll renew it for a second season, just like a bunch of lesbians in a prison yard. 1.00

00:11:09.000 One hint we might have that it might not be so successful.

00:11:12.000 Is if you look at the like-to-dislikes ratio on YouTube.

00:11:19.000 129,000 dislikes to 7,000 likes.

00:11:21.000 And you don't have to be, they try and make it seem here at Gizmodo in the leftist articles, they try and make it seem as though it's all alt-right neo-nazi racists.

00:11:28.000 You couldn't even find 129,000 alt-right Nazi racists in the country. 0.99

00:11:32.000 As though everyone else in the country who maybe even voted for Barack Obama, who maybe even might consider themselves progressive, don't want to log into their Netflix timeline and see dear white people effectively a show telling you you suck. 0.98

00:11:46.000 As though you have to be a racist to not be thrilled about a show condemning you for something over which you have no control. 0.99

00:11:54.000 A level of melanin.

00:11:55.000 It would be just like, I don't know.

00:11:57.000 Tom Cruise logging in and says, dear under 5'4 people.

00:12:00.000 It is a sad thing.

00:12:02.000 It's an attack the second you log into Netflix.

00:12:05.000 It doesn't mean that you're racist.

00:12:07.000 And in trying to vindicate themselves here, this is, I don't know if you caught this at Gizmodo.

00:12:12.000 So they were talking about people who were upset with dear white people.

00:12:15.000 I think justifiably so.

00:12:16.000 Or at the very least, they don't want their hard-earned dollars going to a company that would push out this kind of propaganda.

00:12:21.000 They wrote this.

00:12:21.000 Then again, those in need of a safe space to be racist have been boycotting a whole lot lately.

00:12:26.000 Polls discord, I think meaning a 4chan message board or Reddit chat spent much of its Super Bowl issuing boycotts against boycotts against companies whose commercials hurt their feelings, including Kia, Audi, Budweiser and T-Mobile.

00:12:38.000 Now, I know Audi.

00:12:40.000 We all know about Audi because they perpetuated a false wage gap myth.

00:12:44.000 Wrong.

00:12:49.000 So it wasn't so much protesting Audi so much as lies.

00:12:53.000 Generally speaking, people have problems with lies in commercials.

00:12:56.000 When you said that women are valued at half. 1.00

00:12:56.000 Those are a problem. 1.00

00:12:58.000 You saw the commercial.

00:12:59.000 I did, yes.

00:13:00.000 Did it make your blood boil?

00:13:01.000 It did.

00:13:01.000 It aggravated me.

00:13:02.000 Aggravated me a lot. 1.00

00:13:03.000 It's aggravating me, you little bastard. 1.00

00:13:05.000 Can't you tell I'm using my aggravated voice right now? 1.00

00:13:07.000 You seem very passionate about being aggravated.

00:13:10.000 But the other companies, Kia.

00:13:13.000 I don't know, and you can tweet me at SCrowder or tweet at Nakejared.

00:13:16.000 I have not seen, I had not heard at all of a Kia boycott.

00:13:20.000 Apparently there was a Melissa McCarthy commercial that was a comedy where she was saving whales and the whales hit. 0.81

00:13:25.000 It was really, really silly. 0.84

00:13:26.000 It was pratfalls. 0.93

00:13:27.000 So here's what's important.

00:13:28.000 When you're reading an article from Gizmodo or Daily Beast, there are no sources, no hyperlinks, often no bylines in these articles.

00:13:34.000 They're written anonymously.

00:13:35.000 And it's death by a thousand cuts.

00:13:37.000 They just throw in all these different companies.

00:13:39.000 They throw it in with one valid one, Audi.

00:13:41.000 And I think that's valid for people to be upset with Audi.

00:13:43.000 But Kia, I actually ran a Google search and I couldn't find any proof whatsoever of conservative boycott against Kia outside of one article at CNN Money where they included one tweet of someone who's upset by Kia.

00:13:57.000 Dr.

00:13:58.000 No with two likes and 82 followers.

00:14:02.000 83.

00:14:03.000 Oh, there we go.

00:14:05.000 Get it right, my lord.

00:14:07.000 So, I mean, talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel with that one.

00:14:11.000 They want to, and say, again, what are they doing?

00:14:13.000 They're trying to say conservatives have no sense of humor.

00:14:15.000 Conservatives just boycott everything. 0.97

00:14:16.000 So, of course, they're going to boycott dear white people. 0.65

00:14:20.000 Well, no, they don't boycott everything.

00:14:22.000 They get upset when you lie, like Audie, or they get upset when they log into their Netflix queue and see their entire race of people being insulted.

00:14:31.000 Not only race, but generally an ideology, right?

00:14:32.000 It's going to be a giant slam against anyone who voted for Trump or anyone who's even moderately conservative.

00:14:37.000 That's what it is.

00:14:38.000 But it's death by a thousand cuts.

00:14:39.000 If you're reading these articles and you're not politically involved, you think, oh, conservatives have boycotted Kia.

00:14:43.000 They boycotted T-Mobile.

00:14:44.000 They boycott Starbucks.

00:14:44.000 They boycott Dunkin' Donuts.

00:14:45.000 They boycott everything, even though it's not true.

00:14:49.000 I can't remember the last thing we actually boycott.

00:14:51.000 And if we do, we're really bad at it.

00:14:52.000 Typically what we do is we support companies like Chick-fil-A whenever somebody goes after them.

00:14:57.000 Liberals always take money away from it.

00:14:59.000 We always put money back in.

00:15:00.000 We just support their enemies if they don't like that.

00:15:01.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:15:02.000 There's Target, but I can't really think of anything outside of that that was a major target.

00:15:05.000 Yeah, but that wasn't even organized all that well.

00:15:06.000 No, Target was they kicked out the Salvation Army Santas because Salvation really was offensive.

00:15:11.000 And they said it's the bell ringing.

00:15:12.000 the transgender issue.

00:15:13.000 The transgender issue.

00:15:14.000 We got angry about it, but we didn't boycott in mass.

00:15:17.000 No, no, no.

00:15:18.000 Soccer moms can't go anywhere but target sometimes, and those are mostly Republicans. 1.00

00:15:21.000 They do drag their butts into targets. 1.00

00:15:22.000 So here's my issue. 0.98

00:15:25.000 I mean, again, death by a thousand cuts.

00:15:27.000 We're at a point where you have to fact check every single thing you're reading.

00:15:31.000 And if you accept, oh, I guess conservatives boycott Kia, most people out there who read Gizmodo accept this.

00:15:36.000 And you know what?

00:15:38.000 Let's just be frank here.

00:15:39.000 You know, dear white people, thank you so much.

00:15:42.000 Thank you so much for going out there and constantly being browbeaten.

00:15:46.000 You know what, dear white people, how about this? 0.50

00:15:48.000 If you're not racist, okay, let's start with this.

00:15:50.000 If you're not racist, you know in your heart that you're not racist.

00:15:53.000 You've never had a racist thought or you never committed a racist act.

00:15:56.000 Don't feel guilty for being racist because someone else says so.

00:15:59.000 Dear white people, you know what?

00:16:00.000 Thank you for being so tolerant and progressive that you elected the first black president to the United States of America, thereby completely discrediting the myth of systemic discrimination. 0.98

00:16:09.000 Systemic, not individual assholes, but systemic discrimination at the highest levels of office in the land. 0.98

00:16:13.000 And dear white people, thank you so much for subsequently realizing that president sucked and electing a new administration. 0.99

00:16:21.000 The crossover is startling. 0.97

00:16:22.000 People who voted for Obama who then voted for Donald Trump.

00:16:25.000 And dear white people, how about this?

00:16:26.000 Thank you so much for being so patient and so tolerant while you are browbeaten and guilted and completely, blatantly, straightforwardly insulted by the media, by the Hollywood establishment, by programs like this, largely using your dollar and boycotting peacefully.

00:16:42.000 Even though you've never done anything racist, you've never committed a racist act and you're seven generations removed from slavery.

00:16:48.000 Dear white people, thank you for that. 0.85

00:16:51.000 Also penicillin.

00:16:53.000 That's kind of nice.

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00:16:55.000 We'll be back.

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00:18:43.000 better stop it.

00:18:45.000 We have Gavin McInnes coming up after that surprise guest.

00:18:48.000 Did anyone guess who it was?

00:18:49.000 Anyone guess who it was?

00:18:51.000 Senator Ted Cruz!

00:18:54.000 The Sultan of...

00:18:56.000 The Sultan of Spank.

00:18:59.000 When it comes to debating...

00:19:00.000 The mopper of Bernie's.

00:19:01.000 It might as well have just been a father bending his child over his knee.

00:19:05.000 We'll discuss that with the senator, of course, in a distinguished way.

00:19:08.000 Speaking of the opposite of distinguished, see that nice little segue?

00:19:11.000 Samantha Bee.

00:19:13.000 Samantha Bee is apparently back from...

00:19:15.000 I think she took a break from doing her show. 1.00

00:19:17.000 You can tell because of the aroma of bitch that fills the studio. 1.00

00:19:23.000 Pungent. 1.00

00:19:24.000 She is, I believe, the worst offender of completely taking clips out of context.

00:19:30.000 She did it this week.

00:19:31.000 Well first, let's watch her set it up. 0.98

00:19:34.000 First, after briefly banning Kellyanne Conway for being a flaxen-haired fountain of lies, CNN let her back through the gates straight into Jake Tapper's cage. 0.99

00:19:44.000 And they haven't fed him this week.

00:19:47.000 Ooh, so catty.

00:19:49.000 She's a strong woman.

00:19:52.000 I don't know what this is.

00:19:55.000 This is either a tiger or a Westboro Baptist baby with a flipper. 0.75

00:19:59.000 It's a floppy fish.

00:20:00.000 That's the sound of the Westboro Baptist church being born.

00:20:04.000 There are people listening on audio, terrestrial.

00:20:07.000 So, what was she talking about that was so...

00:20:10.000 It was just such an own, such an epic fail for Kellyanne Conway.

00:20:15.000 Here's the montage she showed her audience.

00:20:16.000 Saying that we don't cover terrorism, that's just false.

00:20:20.000 Sprays of falsehoods coming from the White House.

00:20:23.000 How about the president's statements that are false?

00:20:25.000 Falsehoods?

00:20:26.000 False.

00:20:27.000 Damn, Jack! 1.00

00:20:30.000 At first glance, it would look like Jake got the better of those exchanges. 0.99

00:20:35.000 Now, it's easy to look as though you mopped the floor with someone when you don't show any of their responses.

00:20:41.000 It's like arguing with a kung fu doll. 0.99

00:20:46.000 Here's the thing with this.

00:20:47.000 Taking someone out of context, we get this a lot.

00:20:48.000 They go, you edited a clip.

00:20:50.000 You edited a video.

00:20:51.000 We get that a lot when we do hidden camera videos.

00:20:52.000 All videos are edited.

00:20:54.000 All clips are edited, okay?

00:20:55.000 By its very definition, if you have 19 hours of raw footage and you have a 10-minute video, that's selectively editing.

00:21:02.000 So I don't want to claim that here.

00:21:04.000 Here's what's important.

00:21:05.000 Editing out of context means you're making something look to be an event that it wasn't.

00:21:11.000 Maybe even making it look to be the opposite.

00:21:13.000 So Samantha Bee does this, and she's not really making comedic points.

00:21:16.000 She's using it to make political points. 1.00

00:21:18.000 Look at her sources on the show.

00:21:19.000 It's almost always Salon, Vox, Daily Kos, Huffington Post.

00:21:24.000 So you know where she's coming from.

00:21:26.000 No context was provided.

00:21:28.000 Here is how Kellyanne Conway answered this.

00:21:31.000 You didn't even see the questions, you just saw accusations of false, but you tell me if it looks like an owned What the president is saying there, Jake, is that there are other attacks that don't get as much coverage.

00:21:40.000 Obviously, the very sad incidents that you related were, frankly, CNN did amazing coverage.

00:21:45.000 Well, I did this past week, and I regretted it tremendously because I used the wrong word to describe something several times.

00:21:52.000 And I'm sorry because I've spoken literally millions of words on TV, I'm sure.

00:21:55.000 I'm handed the information, I think you referred to it as well, that we have had an increase from 2014 to 2015.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, I said that.

00:22:01.000 In rapes and murders and assaults.

00:22:02.000 I'm probably looking at the same data you are.

00:22:06.000 Sounds pretty reasonable.

00:22:07.000 You know what?

00:22:08.000 Maybe Jake Tapper even got the better of her in that interview.

00:22:11.000 Maybe it wasn't Kellyanne Conway's strongest interview.

00:22:13.000 I'd advise going to watch it, the full 25-minute interview.

00:22:15.000 I think we have it up at louderwithcrowder.com.

00:22:17.000 But it certainly wasn't an owning.

00:22:19.000 An owning, no.

00:22:20.000 Smackdown.

00:22:21.000 And one could say that's an isolated incident, but in the very same show, I would argue, taking out of context...

00:22:26.000 Minutes later.

00:22:27.000 Minutes later, Samantha Bee presented the debate between Senator Ted Cruz and Senator Bernie Sanders as going down like this.

00:22:34.000 I disagree with Ted.

00:22:36.000 Who wants to give incredible tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires.

00:22:41.000 When my dad went to Texas in 1957, when he was 18, he couldn't speak English.

00:22:46.000 Incredible tax breaks to the top 1%.

00:22:49.000 And Bernie's solution, you know, I'm reminded of an old Saturday Night Live skit with Christopher Walken, where they're playing in a band and he keeps ringing the cowbell.

00:22:58.000 Now that being said, Ted Cruz didn't make that joke sound incredibly serious.

00:23:02.000 Poor delivery.

00:23:04.000 Now why did the chicken cross the road?

00:23:09.000 Vote for me.

00:23:11.000 I'll give her that.

00:23:12.000 But here's the thing.

00:23:12.000 They tried to make it seem as though Bernie was substantive.

00:23:15.000 That's probably the one time Bernie ever referenced numbers, right?

00:23:18.000 It was the top 1%.

00:23:19.000 Yeah, it's not really even a fact as much as just a figure.

00:23:23.000 And they tried to make it sound like Ted Cruz was nonsensical and just going off on tangents as though it wasn't clearly Bernie Sanders looking like someone trying to escape the old folks home. 0.99

00:23:32.000 Or just wandered in playing Pokemon Go.

00:23:33.000 He didn't make it out, by the way.

00:23:34.000 No.

00:23:35.000 No, he's still there.

00:23:35.000 No.

00:23:36.000 Where's Dregly Puff?!

00:23:38.000 Hashtag pray for Bernie.

00:23:39.000 Hashtag pray for Bernie.

00:23:40.000 So this is important to know because even impartial observers said, you know what, this was not a good showing for Bernie, which shows you that Samantha Bee can't even be honest in her assessment.

00:23:50.000 We genuinely try to be honest here, at least object.

00:23:53.000 And I know we all have inherent biases.

00:23:56.000 So I'll forgive that.

00:23:57.000 But the proactive editing, if you watch her show all the time, and then afterwards she does something so dishonest, trying to give herself a pat on the back, watch.

00:24:05.000 I can honestly say I would give my left tit to have either one of you wonderful mansplaining pricks in the White House right now. 1.00

00:24:15.000 Right now.

00:24:16.000 And everyone cheers.

00:24:18.000 This is why Donald Trump should not apologize.

00:24:20.000 This is why conservatives out there should not apologize. 0.52

00:24:23.000 This is why guilted, browbeating, dear white people should not apologize. 0.60

00:24:28.000 Because this is what the left does, right? 0.81

00:24:30.000 They go, well, now because of Trump, Ted Cruz, just like they'll say, well, you know what?

00:24:33.000 Compared to Trump, John McCain is okay, or Mitt Romney is okay, or Mitch McConnell is okay, or Ted Cruz is okay.

00:24:41.000 They say it now when they're no longer a threat.

00:24:43.000 But when those same people, if you go back in time, when Every single one of them was politically relevant.

00:24:48.000 They got the exact same attacks and treatment as Donald Trump. 0.99

00:24:51.000 You were racist, xenophobic, transphobic, homophobic. 0.92

00:24:55.000 They only try and concede some ground when you're no longer running for office. 0.86

00:25:00.000 So Samantha Bee now trying to act as though she would take the moral high road.

00:25:03.000 Well, not all Republicans are the same.

00:25:04.000 Donald Trump is really bad.

00:25:06.000 I could have been okay with Ted Cruz.

00:25:08.000 Well, here's what she actually had to say about Ted Cruz.

00:25:11.000 Who is Ted Cruz?

00:25:12.000 And why is he so hated?

00:25:13.000 And how come he always looks like he's covered in a glistening layer of slime, even though we know that can't possibly be true?

00:25:19.000 Does Ted believe in dominionism?

00:25:21.000 I hope not.

00:25:22.000 It certainly contradicts that book he memorized in high school while no one was having sex with him.

00:25:27.000 Even God cannot stand to have a direct conversation with Ted Cruz.

00:25:32.000 By the way, after that, she volunteered her time for an anti-bullying campaign.

00:25:36.000 Yes! 1.00

00:25:40.000 It wouldn't be so hard to swallow if you knew they didn't just turn around and I can't believe that our president said pussy! 1.00

00:25:46.000 God literally hates Ted Cruz! 1.00

00:25:49.000 You said a naughty word! 1.00

00:25:53.000 This is what we streamed.

00:25:55.000 You were both there.

00:25:56.000 I was mostly there.

00:26:00.000 We live-streamed the entire debate.

00:26:02.000 The entire debate.

00:26:04.000 And we encourage people to watch the entire debate.

00:26:05.000 We did it with every single presidential debate and primary debate.

00:26:08.000 And we left it all up.

00:26:09.000 We didn't just cut the highlight reel for you.

00:26:10.000 We didn't just watch the first half of the Super Bowl and say, Go Falcons!

00:26:14.000 We watched all of it.

00:26:16.000 And you know what that means?

00:26:17.000 We can't hide in the kind of dishonesty that the left does.

00:26:20.000 No.

00:26:20.000 If we watch an entire debate, for example, if we watch the whole debate and if Bernie Sanders really mopped the floor with Ted Cruz, we would have to go, well, this is not a good day for Ted.

00:26:30.000 You know why?

00:26:31.000 Because we would look silly if we simply lied to you. 0.97

00:26:34.000 Are you going to believe me or you're lying eyes and ears?

00:26:36.000 So we provide as much context as possible and it keeps us somewhat accountable.

00:26:40.000 And this shows you, again, the left is a system of ideas and certainly a political platform today that relies on giving you less information.

00:26:48.000 It relies on keeping you in the dark.

00:26:50.000 It relies on not informing you as to how economics work, on not informing you as to how taxes are procured.

00:26:56.000 It relies on not informing you as to how expensive health care is.

00:27:00.000 It relies on less information, whereas the Big Ten, I don't even say conservatism, but conservatism, libertarianism, whatever Dave Rubin is, ism, actually requires more information and that can keep us accountable.

00:27:15.000 I don't know.

00:27:16.000 Maybe it's just me.

00:27:17.000 Speaking of which, I bet you Samantha Bee would take this out of context as well.

00:27:21.000 We're going to have Gerald Morgan Jr.

00:27:22.000 at G. Morgan Jr.

00:27:23.000 doing some mathematics for me.

00:27:25.000 I don't know how I feel about it because your last name does not end with Berg, Steen, or Chan.

00:27:29.000 I do my best.

00:27:31.000 So the Walmart CEO, this is not news, but made $19 million, the Walmart CEO. Fortune ran an article recently saying, here's how long it would take a Walmart worker to earn the CEO pay.

00:27:44.000 Now, this is very much like we saw with the tactic of Bernie Sanders.

00:27:46.000 Just if you have 50 employees, you need to provide health care.

00:27:50.000 So what they want you to see is 19 million.

00:27:52.000 That's a lot.

00:27:53.000 I have no millions.

00:27:55.000 That's 19 more than my millions!

00:27:59.000 And get you mad.

00:28:00.000 This is what they do.

00:28:01.000 This is how they, again, less information.

00:28:03.000 But let's put that into context.

00:28:04.000 Walmart has 1.5 million employees.

00:28:07.000 Actually, 2.5 million.

00:28:08.000 1.5 million full-time employees verified.

00:28:11.000 Nobody can test this, okay?

00:28:13.000 So if you take the CEO's pay of $19 million, that means he's only paid $13 per employee at Walmart.

00:28:21.000 Important note here, this is the kind of math that people like Samantha Bee or Senator Sanders don't understand because they've never actually had to make payroll, so they want to determine how people like me do or Gerald Morgan Jr.

00:28:33.000 Here's what I would like to do.

00:28:34.000 This is not how the business works, I understand, for CEOs, but just to give you some context.

00:28:40.000 If you bring in a big, you know, a big fish, you reel in a big fish at a financial firm, right, an investor, you get a finder's fee.

00:28:46.000 So if I say, let's say I bring in someone who, you know, bring in a million dollar account, I get a fee because I was the one who went out and brought that account to the firm.

00:28:53.000 It's typically about 6%.

00:28:55.000 I know some people say, oh, my firm is 5.2.

00:28:56.000 It's about 6%.

00:28:57.000 Okay, let's operate with that 6%.

00:28:59.000 Again, I know this isn't how CEOs work, but what if we were to take that principle and Just to look as far as what's fair for someone to be paid and apply it to a CEO outwardly with how many people are making incomes, with how many dollars this person is actually putting in the pockets of employees, thus the American economy.

00:29:19.000 What if we were to give them a finder's fee?

00:29:21.000 Well, then it might give us a better, I guess, just some scope as to what would be fair.

00:29:25.000 So, all right, you got your calculator ready?

00:29:27.000 It's ready to go.

00:29:28.000 G. Morgan Jr., all right, let's see if you can keep up with the Asian counterparts at your previous university.

00:29:32.000 Ah, the advocacy.

00:29:33.000 You won't be able to.

00:29:34.000 Okay.

00:29:34.000 Here we go.

00:29:34.000 The average salary for a Walmart full-time worker is somewhere around $30,000.

00:29:38.000 Again, we're just going to round these numbers.

00:29:39.000 $30,000, okay?

00:29:41.000 So let's take $30,000.

00:29:44.000 Times.06, a 6% finder's fee.

00:29:46.000 Let's say you gave the CEO a 6% finder's fee just for all the jobs that he helps create.

00:29:51.000 That would be $1800.

00:29:54.000 $1800 per employee.

00:29:55.000 Let's multiply that by 1.5 million employees.

00:29:59.000 So with just a 6% finder's fee, the CEO would be making $2.7 billion.

00:30:06.000 Now, I'm not saying a CEO should be paid $2.7 billion.

00:30:08.000 I'm not saying we should apply these finder fees.

00:30:10.000 But what I am saying is, if you provide context, the more context you provide to business, the more you realize that the classist politics are being played from people like Samantha Bee and Bernie Sanders.

00:30:18.000 Again, they're required to keep you in the dark.

00:30:21.000 19!

00:30:22.000 19 million!

00:30:26.000 2.5 million employees.

00:30:28.000 You know, they brought up this woman with the hair salon. 1.00

00:30:31.000 If you have over 50 employees, you need to pay.

00:30:33.000 She said she had under 50, by the way.

00:30:35.000 If you have over 50, you need to.

00:30:38.000 Okay, you need to provide free health care, is what Bernie Sanders says.

00:30:41.000 Well, what does that mean?

00:30:43.000 They're going to lay off 25 employees or put 25 on part-time.

00:30:47.000 Raise the cost of their prices through the roof.

00:30:50.000 Exactly.

00:30:51.000 No business.

00:30:51.000 You have no context as to how much money.

00:30:54.000 Sometimes you have people who could be running multi-million dollar businesses and they're paying their VPs, they're paying their top employees six figures, and they're not making a dime.

00:31:02.000 They're borrowing money to pay for inventory or payroll taxes for the next year.

00:31:05.000 I'm not saying that's what's happening with Walmart, but it is important to put this into context.

00:31:09.000 $19 million for a CEO of a company with 1.5 million full-time workers is Is actually remarkably low.

00:31:16.000 But just like keeping you in the dark, just like providing you less information, the left...

00:31:21.000 Here's something that's important.

00:31:22.000 Capitalism can only operate in optimism.

00:31:26.000 It can only operate where people believe in the best in themselves.

00:31:31.000 Socialism, as you see with Bernie Sanders, it has to...

00:31:33.000 It has to appeal to the lowest portions of our humanity.

00:31:38.000 You have to not provide context and say, here's a big number!

00:31:41.000 19 million!

00:31:43.000 And what do you do?

00:31:44.000 You have to buy votes through jealousy, through people being envious, through covetousness.

00:31:49.000 It requires that you not provide them context as to the work, as to the risk, the risk-reward ratio, as to what they're actually making per employee, as to the billions or millions or hundreds of thousands, doesn't matter the size of business, that they are injecting into the economy.

00:32:01.000 The other lives that are improved from this person having started that business, it wants you to be jealous and get your slice just because.

00:32:11.000 So let's stop using the term compassionate conservatism.

00:32:14.000 I think conservatism is pretty compassionate. 1.00

00:32:16.000 I think you've got to be a selfish asshole to be a socialist. 1.00

00:32:19.000 We'll be back after this. 1.00

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00:34:55.000 I just assaulted my microphone.

00:34:57.000 I had no idea if it was our guest and it was a big screw you, and I just got dizzy for some reason.

00:35:01.000 I think my blood sugar is low.

00:35:03.000 Always love to have this next guest.

00:35:05.000 Always controversial, but very intelligent most of the time.

00:35:09.000 Insightful, entertaining.

00:35:11.000 Compoundmedia.com is where you can watch his daily program.

00:35:14.000 Gavin McInnes, thank you for being here, sir.

00:35:16.000 Thanks for having me.

00:35:17.000 Why are you doing the Sean King nostril flare?

00:35:20.000 It's a new look.

00:35:21.000 I'm trying to develop a new face.

00:35:22.000 There's different faces you can have.

00:35:24.000 That's true.

00:35:25.000 I'm not a fan of it.

00:35:26.000 Like Donald Trump and De Niro have that thing that New Yorkers get when they've been saying no to bums for 20 years. 0.99

00:35:33.000 No, I don't need to change.

00:35:34.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:35:35.000 Gonna build a tower.

00:35:37.000 Gonna build a tower.

00:35:39.000 There you go.

00:35:40.000 And then in Scotland they have Shamgabbit, where the accent gets so intense, by the way, that actually your cheeks get all chipmunky, and it's called Shamgabbit because your face is altered by your accent.

00:35:51.000 Why don't, before we get that far down the trail, why don't they just speak properly?

00:35:55.000 Yeah, that would make sense.

00:35:56.000 It would make sense.

00:35:57.000 Everything the Scots do is out of spite. 0.81

00:36:00.000 Their parliament, their politics, and their language is an FU to the rest of Europe, and obviously Britain.

00:36:07.000 Also the kilts.

00:36:08.000 They decided to kind of buck the trend and go the other way on that one.

00:36:11.000 Gavin, speaking of which, you were at NYU while we were in New York.

00:36:15.000 Did you actually get maced or pepper sprayed?

00:36:18.000 Yes, I thought that was the custom there.

00:36:20.000 Does that not happen to everyone?

00:36:21.000 No, it's not the greeting, the official greeting of New York, but it's sort of...

00:36:25.000 I was going to say, NYU should change their policy on that because it's incredibly painful and no one's going to want to go.

00:36:32.000 Now, was it Pepper Spray or was it Mace?

00:36:33.000 Because there's a big difference.

00:36:35.000 Well, when I was washing my face, I did taste a semblance of pepper, which made me very happy because I realized this is not sulfuric acid that's going to make this gorgeous mug disfigured.

00:36:45.000 So, there's just a little bit of cayenne.

00:36:45.000 Right.

00:36:48.000 It's kind of like when my dog was chewing on the trash can.

00:36:50.000 We put hot sauce on there to get him to stop, but then he just ate the trash can and just started chewing through it.

00:36:54.000 It turns out he likes hot sauce.

00:36:56.000 Hot sauce!

00:36:57.000 Now, this is the Antifa...

00:36:59.000 How do we pronounce it?

00:37:00.000 Antifa?

00:37:01.000 I don't think they even know.

00:37:03.000 They don't even know what their political beliefs are, let alone how to pronounce their own name.

00:37:07.000 Right.

00:37:08.000 Was it them who pepper sprayed you?

00:37:11.000 Yes.

00:37:11.000 Okay, so they showed up to your speech, and I know, first off, Gavin was upset that we were in New York and didn't let him know.

00:37:15.000 We had to keep our operations very covert because people...

00:37:20.000 Only a blabbermouth?

00:37:21.000 Yes.

00:37:22.000 So what was this like?

00:37:24.000 Did you know beforehand they were gathering, they were protesting, or was the guy just covert?

00:37:28.000 Like, he had dyed his hair, he looked like a Gavin McGinnis fan, he wore a t-shirt and just... 1.00

00:37:32.000 Surprise, bitch! 1.00

00:37:33.000 There was about 200 liberal college students that think that I was there to promote hate speech and wanted to make their voices heard. 1.00

00:37:43.000 Then there was maybe 20 really just dumb people whose heart is in the right place, and they were just there giving me the finger. 0.97

00:37:50.000 Then there was another 20. 0.98

00:37:52.000 And then within that group, by the way, there's guys who just wanted to punch me and think that they can.

00:37:57.000 And then the other group was about 20 Antifa people, all dressed in black, faces covered up.

00:38:04.000 And so we were told a secret door to go in through the back where we would be safe.

00:38:09.000 And I said, I'm not doing that.

00:38:11.000 This is America.

00:38:11.000 I'm going through the front door.

00:38:13.000 I have nothing to be ashamed of.

00:38:14.000 I'm not here to do a talk defending pedophilia or something.

00:38:18.000 You have plenty to be ashamed of, just not in that specific instance.

00:38:21.000 I didn't really have a subject for my talk.

00:38:23.000 I think I was going to talk about how white supremacy is a myth, and you guys...

00:38:26.000 To have this looming specter of Nazism floating around every corner and your teachers lied to you that doesn't exist.

00:38:34.000 But I didn't plan it out.

00:38:34.000 Right.

00:38:36.000 They just said, stop hate speech.

00:38:37.000 We can't allow hate speech. 1.00

00:38:38.000 He wants to murder trans. 1.00

00:38:41.000 Anyway. 0.99

00:38:42.000 Hold on to clarify for the record. 0.99

00:38:43.000 Do you want to murder trans or you just want mild torture? 1.00

00:38:47.000 Well, unfortunately for all the gays and trainees out there, Not only do I not care about you, nobody does. 1.00

00:38:54.000 It's a trick question because they all kill themselves anyway! 0.99

00:38:58.000 We don't want you to alter our bathrooms, but we don't give a crap about you, saw we. 0.99

00:39:02.000 Yeah, I know. 0.97

00:39:03.000 I'm not going to lie.

00:39:04.000 It does freak me out whenever they walk into a bathroom.

00:39:06.000 I'm like, eh, I wish there were a law about this.

00:39:10.000 Yeah, because that happens all the time.

00:39:12.000 It happens every now and then, especially in New York, and they show up with pepper spray.

00:39:15.000 Not this again.

00:39:16.000 Well, we started taking masks off and fighting them and punching them.

00:39:20.000 And they talk about how it's fun to punch a Nazi, but the only way they do it is they seem to come at you sideways and And from behind and punch you in the back of the head, which isn't very painful.

00:39:30.000 They got Richard Spencer when he was doing an interview, and they're very thrilled about that. 1.00

00:39:34.000 I'm not in the same political category as Richard Spencer, but I am to those idiots. 0.99

00:39:38.000 And I started taking off masks, and it was going well, and we were punching it, like really laying into them. 0.99

00:39:44.000 Two of us got arrested for it.

00:39:46.000 But as I'm doing this, I just feel fire in my eyes.

00:39:50.000 And we go into NYU. My guys can't come in with me, and I can't argue their case because I can't see or think, and then they are left out there to fight.

00:39:59.000 I go upstairs in a secret elevator and do the talk, but the audience in the room, Rosenthal Pavilion at NYU, was about 60% people that were there to ruin it.

00:40:12.000 Right.

00:40:13.000 And they did.

00:40:13.000 They just wouldn't shut up.

00:40:14.000 I tried to give them the microphone.

00:40:15.000 I said, here, you guys talk.

00:40:16.000 No! 0.75

00:40:17.000 It was like I was handing them a turd. 1.00

00:40:19.000 They looked in horror at the microphone, but kept saying their dumb chant. 0.91

00:40:23.000 To be fair, for people who've seen your live performances, no one knows where that microphone's been.

00:40:27.000 Here is something with them.

00:40:29.000 You were punching them.

00:40:31.000 You talk about them punching.

00:40:32.000 You know, I was punched in the face, I will say, before it became the trend here with union thugs.

00:40:35.000 And remember back then, young Turks were like, it's clear he pushed the guy first, and there was no evidence.

00:40:40.000 That's always the excuse they use, right?

00:40:41.000 He started it, or he was now the adult equivalent of he started it is he's a Nazi. 0.74

00:40:47.000 So let's separate, you know, Richard Spencer.

00:40:49.000 I completely disagree with his politics.

00:40:51.000 Not a fan at all.

00:40:52.000 He's not a white nationalist.

00:40:54.000 He's a He's not a white supremacist. 0.94

00:40:56.000 He's a white nationalist.

00:40:57.000 Someone said, get that right. 0.93

00:40:58.000 And they were really upset with me.

00:40:59.000 But you don't identify with him.

00:41:01.000 But the problem is...

00:41:02.000 I love him, though.

00:41:03.000 I think he's a great guy.

00:41:04.000 And he's good to talk to.

00:41:05.000 He's an intelligent human being.

00:41:06.000 And I agree with everything he says.

00:41:08.000 And then he says, there's no future for non-whites in America. 1.00

00:41:10.000 And I go, what? 0.80

00:41:13.000 Yeah.

00:41:13.000 I don't agree with very much that he says.

00:41:15.000 But I don't think he should be punched in the face simply for speaking.

00:41:18.000 But what they do is they say, KKK, neo-Nazis. 0.94

00:41:22.000 Spencer, and then Gavin McGinnis, Milo, Crowder, down the list, every single person is a Nazi. 0.85

00:41:28.000 So that's how you justify punching everyone.

00:41:29.000 What's that guy from Fox who does the mediating of panels, town halls, whatever, Frank Luntz?

00:41:34.000 Frank Luntz.

00:41:35.000 I don't think he's on Fox anymore.

00:41:37.000 Well, that guy, he's been attacked for being a Nazi.

00:41:40.000 Really?

00:41:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:42.000 Stay puffed?

00:41:43.000 There's no limit.

00:41:44.000 I bet Megyn Kelly's a Nazi to them. 1.00

00:41:46.000 Well, it wouldn't surprise me. 0.92

00:41:47.000 She looks like she's straight out of a page of Hitler Youth. 0.86

00:41:49.000 So they say Nazi, Nazi.

00:41:52.000 You weren't able to speak.

00:41:53.000 This is why I don't do shows at colleges anymore, because I just show up.

00:41:56.000 I do stand-up.

00:41:57.000 I'm not really interested in the protests.

00:41:59.000 I've seen enough of that.

00:41:59.000 If I can't get out there and do jokes, for me, it's gotten to the point where it's pointless.

00:42:03.000 We can see people get really angry, and they don't let you go out there and do a set.

00:42:08.000 Do you plan on still doing more colleges, or has it gotten to the point where the juice isn't worth the squeeze for you?

00:42:13.000 If it makes dollars, it makes sense.

00:42:14.000 I mean, if I can pay off my car quickly, I'll do a few of them.

00:42:18.000 But I'm not going to go there for free anymore.

00:42:21.000 I'm not going to risk my life for free.

00:42:23.000 But, you know, everything has a monetary value.

00:42:26.000 And I'm happy to go there and talk if they're going to make it worth my while to go sit on a plane, sit in a hotel, have to...

00:42:33.000 You know, risk getting pepper sprayed again.

00:42:36.000 What is the monetary value on being pepper sprayed?

00:42:39.000 Like, have you set in your mind, this is my minimum amount to be pepper sprayed?

00:42:43.000 Is that your signing bonus?

00:42:45.000 A thousand bucks.

00:42:47.000 Really?

00:42:47.000 That's it?

00:42:49.000 That's not how much I charge for the talk.

00:42:49.000 Yep.

00:42:51.000 No, just for pepper spray.

00:42:53.000 It's only 20 minutes out of your life.

00:42:55.000 You can pepper spray me right now for a thousand bucks. 0.80

00:42:59.000 Can we bring you in the studio and pepper spray you for a thousand bucks? 0.99

00:42:59.000 Really? 0.99

00:43:01.000 Can we set that up?

00:43:02.000 You can pepper spray me for $1,000 anytime you want.

00:43:04.000 People hold them to it.

00:43:05.000 We are going to arrange the flight, bring Gavin McGinnis out to the studio.

00:43:08.000 We will have no medical supervision, and we will pepper spray Gavin McGinnis for $1,000, $1,000.

00:43:13.000 Would you do it for $500?

00:43:15.000 No.

00:43:16.000 I'm very particular about this.

00:43:18.000 I used to do, how much would you have to be paid for to do this thing and that thing?

00:43:23.000 And my pet peeve with that is when people say, I don't know, like $10 billion?

00:43:28.000 Right.

00:43:28.000 Okay, so you'd say no to 9.9 billion?

00:43:31.000 Oh no, I'd love that.

00:43:32.000 Okay, I don't want how much money you'd like.

00:43:35.000 I want how much money you would refuse.

00:43:37.000 And I would refuse $999.99.

00:43:41.000 To be pepper sprayed.

00:43:42.000 Well, I had to ask.

00:43:43.000 Our EP is Jewish, and I knew it was going to be a follow-up.

00:43:45.000 So, Gavin, let me ask you this.

00:43:50.000 What's your report card right now on Donald Trump at this point?

00:43:52.000 I know last time you were giving him an A+. A+. Still A+. Still A+. Betsy DeVos, Dancing in the Streets. 1.00

00:44:02.000 I just did a video for Rebel where I was talking about all the horrible things the left says about him, like, he's got a CIA director who had a secret prison in Thailand where they may have been torturing people.

00:44:13.000 And I'm going, he has a CIA director who had a secret prison in Thailand where they're just torturing people.

00:44:20.000 Yeah.

00:44:21.000 Like, we're saying the same things now, except I'm cheering and they're screaming.

00:44:26.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:44:27.000 If the left were not behaving so poorly, because there's only so much time in the day, would there be some issues where you would take Donald Trump to task?

00:44:34.000 Some things where, you know, you might go, oh, all right, I'm not thrilled with that decision. 0.96

00:44:37.000 Because I have a few things like that, but then what happens is, oh, gosh, the SAG Awards happened, or, oh, dear, you know, okay, the transparency law with energy companies, ah, I've got a problem with that, but, ah, crap, dear white people came out, so that just gets bumped from the show map. 0.78

00:44:50.000 Yeah, I mean, look, he hired his son-in-law.

00:44:53.000 That's dubious.

00:44:54.000 I have to double-check his credentials.

00:44:57.000 Yes, Betsy devoted $9 million to his campaign. 0.98

00:45:00.000 That's looking pretty crony-esque.

00:45:02.000 But then I kind of like her if she's donating money to her campaign.

00:45:05.000 And by the way, about Betsy.

00:45:07.000 Because Amway has donated so much to charity.

00:45:11.000 I was talking to your dad about this earlier, and he actually schooled me on it.

00:45:15.000 Well, because, you know, we, Nage, Jared, and I lived in Grand Rapids for a long time, and the DeVosses and the Van Andels built that town.

00:45:20.000 So much so where we did that college socialist troll.

00:45:22.000 One guy, remember him? 1.00

00:45:23.000 That one guy who was like, oh, the DeVosses and Van Andels are such assholes, I hate them. 0.99

00:45:27.000 I said, where do you work? 1.00

00:45:28.000 I work for the DeVosses.

00:45:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:32.000 They've invested in hospitals, unbelievable medical research.

00:45:36.000 It's the reason it's not baby Detroit.

00:45:38.000 Yeah, Grand Rapids is like an amazing, booming town, and it's entirely because of the DeVosses and Van Andels.

00:45:43.000 That doesn't mean she's qualified for Secretary of Education.

00:45:45.000 But you know what, Gavin?

00:45:46.000 That's a good example, right?

00:45:47.000 I don't think she's the best choice.

00:45:48.000 I don't think she's super qualified, but I agree with her ideas on school choice.

00:45:53.000 That being said...

00:45:55.000 She's a decent person.

00:45:56.000 The DeVos's have always been attacked simply for being successful.

00:45:58.000 So I don't have time to say, well, these are my grievances with her. 0.66

00:46:01.000 I just want to go, you guys are insufferable.

00:46:02.000 You've got to understand, public education is the mafia right now.

00:46:05.000 So to say I hired someone with experience is like saying I hired Al Capone to help me take down the mafia.

00:46:11.000 No, you need Giuliani.

00:46:13.000 You need someone who is going to come up with a racketeering law that's been dead for 100 years.

00:46:19.000 Education needs to be infiltrated.

00:46:21.000 It's corrupt.

00:46:21.000 Yeah.

00:46:22.000 Well, I think it shouldn't exist.

00:46:24.000 I agree.

00:46:24.000 The Federal Department of Education, when you tell someone, you go, well, you know, I don't think there should be, well, how would we have schools?

00:46:28.000 You were born before it was created, I say to many of those, certainly the baby boomer liberals.

00:46:33.000 My dad went to public schools without the Federal Department of Education.

00:46:37.000 They were state-run.

00:46:38.000 That was the principle, and test scores haven't gotten all that much better.

00:46:41.000 Their parents are smarter than you out there.

00:46:43.000 Who wants to argue that our schools are better, too?

00:46:46.000 Yeah, the schools were better.

00:46:47.000 And that's just one of them.

00:46:48.000 You've talked about it, right?

00:46:48.000 Where they just go, they just say something as though it's absurd, the left, where they go, oh, well, you're saying Gavin's not a Nazi?

00:46:54.000 Well, you're saying we don't need a federal department of education?

00:46:54.000 Yes.

00:46:57.000 Yes.

00:46:58.000 Yeah, that's what I was saying.

00:47:00.000 Like, they've gone so far off on their tangent of hyperbole that it's circled back around and you go, yeah, sounds reasonable.

00:47:08.000 Yep.

00:47:09.000 I mean, I saw there was a target list for deplorable, and they had my picture.

00:47:13.000 This is a guy you gotta attack.

00:47:15.000 What did he say?

00:47:16.000 Well, he once said most women would be happier at home. 0.93

00:47:18.000 And I'm reading it going, that offends you?

00:47:21.000 That's a fact.

00:47:23.000 Most men would be happier at home. 0.97

00:47:26.000 We're both at home right now.

00:47:28.000 Yeah, most men would be happier not being in a cubicle.

00:47:30.000 When you look at the jobs that many people work, most of them are like, yeah, I'm happier at home.

00:47:33.000 It is remarkable.

00:47:34.000 No, no, no.

00:47:35.000 Men are happier at work.

00:47:37.000 We thrive in the workplace.

00:47:39.000 Yeah, but not if you're working at HuffPo or Slate.

00:47:39.000 Women...

00:47:42.000 Yeah, not if you're working at Slate or HuffPo or in a cubicle.

00:47:47.000 Even that.

00:47:48.000 Even those blogs.

00:47:49.000 Look at the writing.

00:47:50.000 Look at the way they say, or whatever.

00:47:53.000 And because drugs. 0.99

00:47:56.000 Women are terrible writers for the most part. 1.00

00:48:00.000 I will tell you this. 0.99

00:48:01.000 For the most part.

00:48:02.000 But Courtney and Casey, who write for us, are really the best writers that I've seen anywhere around.

00:48:07.000 I mean, people have been trying to poach them through.

00:48:08.000 I am a Schaefer-Riley is one of my favorite columnists.

00:48:11.000 There are exceptions.

00:48:12.000 But generally, you'll notice they don't even get the whole structure of intro paragraph, three supporting paragraphs, conclusion.

00:48:18.000 It's just a rant.

00:48:19.000 You know what's interesting?

00:48:20.000 It'll always involve me-search.

00:48:22.000 Like, I wore a sign to the Women's March that said, white woman voted for Trump, and we need to recognize that. 0.62

00:48:28.000 And this is what it was like for me.

00:48:30.000 So she's just writing in her diary.

00:48:32.000 Well, you know what's interesting?

00:48:33.000 Actually, he brings up an interesting point.

00:48:35.000 I find that, and I don't always just say the conservative good, liberal bad.

00:48:38.000 I find that conservative female writers are definitively better than their leftist counterparts. 1.00

00:48:44.000 If you look at HuffPo writers versus Courtney or Casey, or whether you like her or not, Michelle Malkin or people like Ann Coulter, if you look at them and you compare them to Ariana Huffington or writers at Wonkett, just as far as quality, it's as undeniable as the Ted Cruz-Bernie Sanders debate.

00:48:59.000 Objective observers have to go, yeah. 0.94

00:49:00.000 Well, think how much crap they go through. 0.99

00:49:01.000 I mean, not only are you a woman, I mean, you're villainized as, you know, self-loathing woman. 0.99

00:49:06.000 So you have to, kind of like conservatives have to defend themselves more because it's not the default position.

00:49:10.000 I also think it's, I think women, conservatives have to defend themselves more. 0.97

00:49:13.000 Well, it's like Ann Coulter says, our blacks are better than their blacks. 0.84

00:49:17.000 Our everything is better than their everything. 0.67

00:49:20.000 Have you noticed, by the way, with female writers on the left, they always spell names wrong? 1.00

00:49:24.000 Yeah.

00:49:25.000 If you spell names wrong, it sounds like a trivial detail, but you check Strunk and White and the Harvard Review of Journalism, and they always make it clear that that is a detail that is much more important than dozens of others.

00:49:40.000 I mean, it helps you index the article for future stories.

00:49:44.000 Future reference, and especially now with Google, you spell the name wrong the first time it's published, that's what it is on Google forever.

00:49:50.000 This is true.

00:49:52.000 Do you think it's what Jared said, or do you think it's just because we're performance-based that conservative women tend to be better writers?

00:49:52.000 What do you think?

00:49:57.000 I do think when you actually look at it, it is undeniable, certainly as far as op-ed writers.

00:50:02.000 Why do you think that is?

00:50:03.000 Conservatism in general, the right in general, has parameters.

00:50:07.000 So you're a man, you're a woman. 0.98

00:50:09.000 If you're an artist, you have to be able to draw a hand.

00:50:12.000 If you're a writer, you have to be able to spell a name.

00:50:15.000 But the left is the island of misfit toys.

00:50:18.000 It's anything goes.

00:50:20.000 You're an artist if you put a tampon in a teacup. 0.81

00:50:23.000 So inevitably, if you're incompetent, you're going to want to go to that side where there's no judgments.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:50:28.000 It's like, ah, yeah, she urinated on a crucifix.

00:50:30.000 Let's give her a grant. 1.00

00:50:30.000 She won't have to work for the next four years. 1.00

00:50:32.000 This is why they hate Trump so much, because this that gig is up and it's all about meritocracy now.

00:50:39.000 So when they say he's a racist, what they really mean is he's not listening to our made up universe where everything is racist and our grievance industry about me being a person of color, blah, blah, blah.

00:50:51.000 I know.

00:51:01.000 I remember in college when we were debating affirmative action and they made their arguments.

00:51:05.000 I literally looked at the professor and my opposition.

00:51:09.000 Thank God I was actually assigned to debate against affirmative action.

00:51:12.000 You know, they assign your position.

00:51:14.000 And I just said, it sounds to me like you're saying, but then the problem is people with the highest grades would get in regardless of race.

00:51:22.000 And the professor just looked at the person and said, yes!

00:51:26.000 Okay!

00:51:27.000 I don't care what the scorecard is.

00:51:28.000 I'm going to put that one up on the ledger for me.

00:51:31.000 Gavin McInnes, while you're texting and not paying attention to me, where can people just find you?

00:51:35.000 I'm scratching my desk with a kid's marker.

00:51:37.000 Why?

00:51:39.000 It's a little nervous habit.

00:51:40.000 I'm nervous around you.

00:51:41.000 You have broad shoulders.

00:51:42.000 Well, this is true.

00:51:45.000 There's no way around it.

00:51:47.000 Can I interrupt the thing that you were just talking about?

00:51:49.000 If you go to McGill University in our hometown of Montreal, it is all Chinese. 1.00

00:51:54.000 And to that I say...

00:51:55.000 Why does your voice go up an octave?

00:51:57.000 It is all Chinese!

00:51:58.000 It is all Chinese!

00:52:00.000 Why?

00:52:00.000 That's how Scottish people talk.

00:52:01.000 We say, I don't even know the same way as they're in the first place! 0.89

00:52:04.000 They talk like Seinfeld?

00:52:05.000 All of them?

00:52:07.000 If you're out late, he's going to flip it off.

00:52:07.000 Yeah.

00:52:10.000 Gauge the outrage by the octave.

00:52:12.000 Yeah.

00:52:13.000 So they're all Chinese. 0.94

00:52:14.000 Yeah, it is a meritocracy.

00:52:15.000 And that's one thing that's ironic about Canada.

00:52:16.000 These social justice warriors, but they don't really understand or necessarily in Quebec play by politically correct rules.

00:52:22.000 Like, oh yeah, there are more Asians on campus.

00:52:24.000 But then they'll turn around and talk about white supremacy or they'll support Justin Trudeau. 1.00

00:52:28.000 It really is a bizarre and silly place, Canada. 1.00

00:52:30.000 It is. 0.98

00:52:31.000 And McGill University is bizarre.

00:52:33.000 I was just reading right when you called about a student named... 0.76

00:52:38.000 Igor Sadikov, and he has started at McGill, Punch a Zionist Today, where you punch not just Israelis in the face, but I assume Jews and anyone who supports Israel. 0.91

00:52:51.000 This, by the way, is a nebbish, ugly little boy who is picking a fight with, I don't know, how many people in North America support Israel? 0.95

00:53:00.000 70%? 0.84

00:53:01.000 Ironically enough, one of the only face-punching lists where Robert Spencer is safe, so good for him.

00:53:08.000 We do have to...

00:53:09.000 Hey, you know, I tell you what.

00:53:10.000 Okay, I will put a monetary price on it if you and I go back to our hometown and do a show in McGill.

00:53:15.000 But stand-up.

00:53:16.000 I don't want to go and just do the protesting.

00:53:18.000 If you and I go and do stand-up, that would be...

00:53:20.000 I would be willing to make that trip, and we could go out and maybe broadcast the show live from there.

00:53:24.000 What do you say we put that together here sometime in the next year?

00:53:27.000 That'd be fun, especially if we dressed up like French-Canada, Franco-Canadians.

00:53:31.000 Yeah.

00:53:32.000 I'll bring Jean-Guy and you bring the tranny equivalent, compoundmedia.com. 1.00

00:53:37.000 Gavin McInnes, we love you, sir.

00:53:39.000 Come back soon.

00:53:40.000 Thanks, guys.

00:53:41.000 Thank you very much.

00:53:42.000 We have more after this.

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00:54:40.000 Want nobody.

00:54:42.000 And I don't want nobody.

00:54:45.000 You got that right.

00:54:47.000 And I don't want nobody I lost Want nobody And I don't want nobody Jail and the knee You got that right All right, glad to bring up this next We shouldn't have wasted that time with dancing.

00:55:00.000 This is an important man.

00:55:01.000 You should not have.

00:55:02.000 He has a national platform.

00:55:02.000 You know him.

00:55:04.000 Be more respectful, Jared.

00:55:06.000 You need to be more respectful with your bumps.

00:55:07.000 Senator Ted Cruz, thank you for being with us, Senator.

00:55:10.000 David, great to be with you.

00:55:11.000 I'm glad to have you.

00:55:12.000 I was disappointed I thought you were going to have the Van Halen t-shirt, which you mentioned last time, but next time.

00:55:17.000 You know, maybe Pink Floyd next time.

00:55:19.000 Pink Floyd.

00:55:20.000 Okay, we can do either or.

00:55:21.000 Okay, we want to talk about the debate.

00:55:23.000 We live-streamed this debate with you and Bernie Sanders.

00:55:26.000 Sorry, Senator Bernie Sanders.

00:55:27.000 We always maintained during the primaries on this program, we said that's the debate we really want to see because it would be the starkest contrast of socialism versus conservatism.

00:55:37.000 For those who may have missed it, I want to roll a quick clip from the debate really quickly to show how Senator Cruz performed.

00:55:45.000 I cannot believe what you just said.

00:55:47.000 It's a direct contradiction to everything you ran for president on.

00:55:51.000 What Ted has said is he wants to get rid of all federal mandates.

00:55:55.000 Did you say that a hundred times?

00:55:56.000 I didn't say it once.

00:55:58.000 I will, said Ted Cruz, I will...

00:56:01.000 Turn down for what?

00:56:03.000 Turn down for what?

00:56:09.000 Senator Cruz, did you feel like you were...

00:56:12.000 I know he's a nice guy.

00:56:14.000 Did you feel like he was just overmatched there?

00:56:16.000 At a certain point, he seemed very frazzled.

00:56:16.000 He did not...

00:56:18.000 Could you see that occur in real time?

00:56:21.000 Well, look, Bernie is someone who – I'll give him credit.

00:56:23.000 He's honest.

00:56:24.000 He's candid.

00:56:25.000 I frankly think there are a lot of the Democrats in the Senate who are socialists who pretend not to be.

00:56:31.000 Yes.

00:56:31.000 And Bernie doesn't.

00:56:33.000 He's a socialist.

00:56:33.000 He's very open.

00:56:35.000 Every problem, he thinks government's the answer.

00:56:37.000 And so, look, there's something refreshing about that candor.

00:56:40.000 Mm-hmm.

00:56:40.000 I think it's also the case that Bernie has been surrounded by people who agree with him all the time.

00:56:46.000 When he was debating with Hillary, she wouldn't disagree with him on anything.

00:56:49.000 And he's surrounded by adoring supporters.

00:56:52.000 So I don't think he's been in a position of actually having to defend what he says other than having everyone nod and say, yes, yes, free stuff.

00:56:59.000 That sounds wonderful.

00:57:00.000 I hate to be adversarial with you right off the bat.

00:57:02.000 He did have an argument with Hillary Clinton, and that was over the fact that she got a perfect F from the NRA. He got a D minus.

00:57:08.000 So get your facts correct, Senator.

00:57:10.000 True.

00:57:10.000 I stand correct.

00:57:11.000 That was the only point of difference on the DNC stage.

00:57:14.000 Like you said, there is no difference of ideas in that platform now.

00:57:19.000 It is so homogenous.

00:57:20.000 Well, and it's one of the realities of being a conservative or being a libertarian is when you go out, you have to defend what you believe.

00:57:26.000 I mean, you know, I do town halls all over the place and, you know, I'm used to questions from people that are raising, whether it's reporters who are always coming after you or just citizens that raise good questions.

00:57:37.000 And I don't think those on the left engage in a lot of dialogue.

00:57:41.000 And when they do, they tend to have one to two talking points.

00:57:44.000 And when you dig down a little bit deeper, there are not a lot of facts there.

00:57:48.000 Well, that is one thing that was a startling difference.

00:57:50.000 Even third-party observers watching this said, you know what, listen, we have to give this one to Senator Cruz.

00:57:56.000 Like you said, whether it's reporters, whether it's the entertainment industry, whether it's Samantha Bee just spitting out pea soup at you, everyone, I think, had to acknowledge at one point.

00:58:06.000 Your notes just seemed to be, you would talk about premiums, how they went up, deductibles, how they went up, and Bernie would deal...

00:58:11.000 Well, you're a lawyer with these sort of phantom fears, right?

00:58:14.000 Things that had not yet happened.

00:58:15.000 You can't do that in a courtroom where you say, but what if this could happen?

00:58:19.000 Well, it hasn't.

00:58:20.000 Did you notice a lot of that?

00:58:21.000 Well, look, I'm getting ready for the debate.

00:58:23.000 I studied what Bernie had said in the Democratic debates, and he always says three things.

00:58:27.000 He says that health care is a right, a human right of everyone.

00:58:32.000 And that every country on earth, every major country guarantees it except the United States, and we need to step up and do that.

00:58:39.000 And those are his three talking points.

00:58:41.000 You know what?

00:58:41.000 Really quickly, since you said it, I have a clip ready.

00:58:43.000 It's about 35 seconds.

00:58:44.000 I think this was the highlight of the debate.

00:58:46.000 We've tried to condense it.

00:58:47.000 Let me roll this.

00:58:48.000 I thought it was beautiful, and I think it's an important springboard for a question I want to ask.

00:58:52.000 Ted, let me ask you a question.

00:58:53.000 Sure.

00:58:54.000 Is every American entitled, and I underlined that word, to healthcare as a right of being an American?

00:59:01.000 Yes or no?

00:59:02.000 You know, I'm glad you asked that.

00:59:03.000 You know, right is a word you use a lot.

00:59:05.000 Let's talk about what rights are.

00:59:07.000 Rights mean you have a right for government not to mess with you, for government not to do things with you. 0.82

00:59:13.000 If you look at the Bill of Rights.

00:59:15.000 The Bill of Rights, free speech means the government can't silence you when you're speaking.

00:59:19.000 Religious liberty means the government can't control who you worship, what your faith is.

00:59:23.000 The Second Amendment means the government can't take away your guns.

00:59:27.000 And if you believe health care is a right, why on earth did you help write Obamacare that caused six million people to have their health insurance canceled, that had them lose their doctors, and had people like LaRonda who can't get health insurance, can't afford premiums, you're denying her what you say is her right.

00:59:44.000 Well, for a start.

00:59:46.000 It's like, well, there is no start, Bernie, and there's no finish, I've noticed, with him.

00:59:50.000 Here's something I think that was really a fundamental difference and why I would have loved to see this debate on more than just healthcare.

00:59:57.000 People say, well, the right and the left want the same things, just different ways to go about it.

01:00:01.000 I think this showcase, actually, we don't.

01:00:03.000 If we can't even agree on what a fundamental right is, meaning the right of liberty versus free stuff, we need to scrab this idea that we're more on the same page than we actually are.

01:00:13.000 Or am I out of line there?

01:00:14.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

01:00:16.000 Look, at the highest level of generality, everyone wants peace and happiness and love.

01:00:21.000 But when you get down one level below that, I mean, the basic divide between left and right is the Democrats, the left of the party of government.

01:00:31.000 They believe in government control.

01:00:34.000 Of everything.

01:00:35.000 And those of us on the right, I think the unifying principle is a devotion to liberty.

01:00:41.000 Leave us alone.

01:00:42.000 Keep the government.

01:00:43.000 The government needs to do only what is essential.

01:00:46.000 And other than that, stay the heck out of our lives.

01:00:48.000 Let us be free.

01:00:49.000 Let us pursue our dreams.

01:00:50.000 I think that's the basic divide.

01:00:52.000 Well, I think Bernie, and we've noticed this being on YouTube, you know, being out there with a pretty young demographic, Senator Sanders has lost a lot of people.

01:00:59.000 A lot of people thought, disregarding the honest part, okay, he's an honest socialist, but they thought he was a nice guy.

01:01:05.000 And we've noticed a reaction when he berated that business owner saying, you know, if it's 50 people, she said less than 50 people.

01:01:12.000 You know, he said, you know, I'm sorry, but you have to.

01:01:14.000 And everyone was going, whoa, hold on a second.

01:01:17.000 He always said the wealthiest 1%.

01:01:19.000 For people who didn't do their research, they thought it was billionaires.

01:01:21.000 They thought it was millionaires.

01:01:22.000 But really, he was looking her in the face at that point.

01:01:25.000 And I feel like that was a turning point.

01:01:27.000 A lot of people who used to like Bernie said, this changed my mind.

01:01:30.000 Stephen, I think that exchange was the most important exchange of the night.

01:01:35.000 It was simply a back and forth between one woman in the town hall and Bernie. 0.99

01:01:40.000 And for those who didn't watch it, let me recount what happened.

01:01:43.000 She stood up.

01:01:44.000 She's a woman who owns several hair care salons in Fort Worth, Texas. 1.00

01:01:48.000 And she had, I think, 48 employees.

01:01:50.000 And she said she wanted to expand and hire more, but she can't because it put her over 50 employees, which would make her subject to Obamacare, and that would bankrupt her.

01:02:01.000 And she said, what do you say to me?

01:02:03.000 And Bernie said, I'm sorry, you're not going to like my answer, but you need to pay for health care for all your employees. 0.94

01:02:11.000 And he said, listen, I don't know much about small business or hair care or any of what you're doing, but you need to pay for health care for everyone.

01:02:18.000 And she said, but I can't.

01:02:21.000 The profit margins in our business are incredibly small.

01:02:24.000 If I do that, I go bankrupt.

01:02:26.000 Well, that's so important, right, is when you talk about freedom, he has no business concept.

01:02:30.000 He doesn't know what her profit margins are.

01:02:32.000 He doesn't know if she's borrowing for payroll taxes or to create inventory, as many small businesses do.

01:02:37.000 So it's just, it really is, you know, it preys on greed is what we talk about, where it's just, if you have 50, you should give him free health care!

01:02:45.000 He gets full Gilbert when he gets mad.

01:02:48.000 And, um...

01:02:49.000 That's a pretty good Gilbert, too. 0.71

01:02:51.000 Ah, son of a gun! 1.00

01:02:53.000 You need more free crap! 1.00

01:02:55.000 That's how I see it. 1.00

01:02:56.000 When he gets mad, he just yells and he gets red.

01:02:58.000 And you're like, he looked at one point like he was trying to escape kind of the special care home, is what I will say.

01:03:04.000 Well, you know, the follow-up exchange with that woman was even more revealing because he said, look, you have health care.

01:03:09.000 Your employees deserve it.

01:03:11.000 And she said, actually, I don't have health care.

01:03:12.000 I can't afford it.

01:03:14.000 And so his solution would be lay off half so you can pay for Obamacare or make them part-time.

01:03:19.000 There's no possible solution to that with his worldview.

01:03:23.000 And what's so revealing, when Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama say, tax the rich...

01:03:30.000 He means that woman right there, that small business owner.

01:03:32.000 And from their perspective, if you go bankrupt, they put so many burdens on you, you go out of business, great.

01:03:37.000 You'll all go on welfare.

01:03:39.000 You'll be dependent on government.

01:03:40.000 That's a great solution for them.

01:03:42.000 Right.

01:03:43.000 I mean, it's a total lack of understanding of what it's like to be in a small business, to be in the world.

01:03:49.000 Listen, Bernie Sanders has been an elected politician for over 30 years.

01:03:54.000 When he was first elected, I think I was in high school.

01:03:56.000 Yeah, he was couch surfing before that.

01:03:58.000 And so the idea of how a small business owner scrimps and saves and doesn't pay themselves so they can pay payroll, you know, I grew up with my parents owning a small business, and it's hard, but it's also what makes our economy incredible.

01:04:13.000 Yeah, but isn't it easy to sell this bill of free goods to people who don't know that, right?

01:04:17.000 We were just talking about the Walmart CEO, 19 million, but it employs 2.5 million people.

01:04:22.000 So if you just say, well, 50 people is when it's free healthcare.

01:04:25.000 Well, why not 40?

01:04:25.000 Why not 60?

01:04:26.000 Changing topics, I would kick myself if I didn't ask this.

01:04:30.000 I don't want to do a gotcha moment here, but you and Donald Trump had some really heated exchanges in the primaries.

01:04:36.000 I didn't know.

01:04:37.000 Yes, to put it lightly, this is our position.

01:04:41.000 We were not big Donald Trump supporters in the primaries.

01:04:44.000 But now because the left has behaved so poorly, we feel compelled to defend him on a lot of issues.

01:04:50.000 Has he apologized for the personal things that he said?

01:04:53.000 And if not, how do you work directly with a guy like that?

01:04:56.000 You know, he hasn't apologized.

01:04:58.000 I haven't asked him to apologize.

01:05:00.000 I'm focusing on what my job is, which is I'm elected by 27 million Texans to fight for them.

01:05:06.000 And I think we've got an incredible opportunity.

01:05:10.000 I'm actually excited about the opportunity.

01:05:13.000 It is rare and it's historic for Republicans to be given the White House and every executive agency in both houses of Congress We can, if we actually roll up our sleeves and get to work, do an enormous amount of good, advance human liberty, get government off our back, bring back jobs, raise wages, protect the Constitution.

01:05:32.000 All of that excites the heck out of me.

01:05:34.000 And so at the end of the day, I'm not looking for someone that I want to go grab a beer with and pal around with.

01:05:40.000 I'm looking for how do I do the job I was elected to, which is fight for Texans.

01:05:44.000 I don't mean to grab a beer with, but one, you don't want to strike forcefully, considering how personal he got.

01:05:50.000 He's at least been nicer in his communications with you.

01:05:52.000 Listen, everyone has had that guy in the office where it's like, yeah, he insulted my wife or insulted my dad.

01:05:58.000 It seems like it would be tough to get...

01:06:00.000 Has he been nicer at least?

01:06:01.000 Oh, sure.

01:06:02.000 Look, I mean, politics is a bare-knuckles game, and it was a vigorous primary.

01:06:06.000 It was.

01:06:07.000 I tried hard to beat him, he tried hard to beat me, and he succeeded, and I did.

01:06:12.000 So, you know, that's...

01:06:14.000 I feel grateful to have come as close as we did.

01:06:17.000 We came very close to winning it all.

01:06:20.000 And, you know, we had 326,000 volunteers across the country.

01:06:24.000 I mean, that was an amazing thing to be part of, and I feel really grateful for it.

01:06:29.000 Yeah, and you did get to have that opportunity with Senator Bernie Sanders.

01:06:32.000 Was that something, I know you probably knew Hillary was an easier candidate to run against, but was there a part of you that always just thought, man, I'd love to get Senator Sanders on stage?

01:06:41.000 Oh, sure.

01:06:41.000 And I wouldn't have minded a more far-reaching debate.

01:06:44.000 I mean, you know, but it was, you know, it's interesting.

01:06:46.000 We spent two hours on CNN talking about health care.

01:06:50.000 And the contrast, I mean, the entire presidential season, I think the most any topic got covered was a, you know, 90-second soundbite where people just do a couple of talking points.

01:07:00.000 I think we ought to have...

01:07:03.000 We ought to have real substantive debates like that where someone lays out a plan.

01:07:03.000 Right.

01:07:08.000 OK, let's talk about the specifics.

01:07:09.000 Let's talk about step one, step two, step three.

01:07:12.000 Let's, you know, something like health care.

01:07:14.000 It matters to every one of us.

01:07:16.000 I mean, it's our moms, it's our kids, it's our lives.

01:07:21.000 I would have loved to say, I know you're a busy man, I would have loved to see a more wide-ranging debate, but I really think healthcare is about the only thing Bernie could do.

01:07:28.000 If you debated about, you know, the military or foreign policy, he'd just yell, BAKE SAIL! And the debate is over.

01:07:36.000 I think the next hundred days, the next six months, the next year and two years, we've got an opportunity to really advance liberty, defend the Constitution, and I'd love your help.

01:07:45.000 We've got to do it together.

01:07:46.000 Absolutely.

01:07:46.000 Well, Senator Cruz, that sounds like you're inviting yourself to come back, but we were going to invite you to come back anyway with the pink Floyd shirt, TedCruz.org.

01:07:54.000 Thank you so much, Senator.

01:07:55.000 We very much appreciate it.

01:07:56.000 We'll be back.

01:07:57.000 Thanks, David.

01:07:57.000 after this. *crickets*

01:08:26.000 *crickets* I'm the one who hosts. *crickets* Morning Grinders, bitch! 1.00

01:08:39.000 Thank you. 1.00

01:09:09.000 - Glad to be with you.

01:09:12.000 Thank you so much to our wonderful guests, Gavin McInnes and Senator Ted Cruz.

01:09:16.000 We appreciate you taking the time.

01:09:17.000 We know it was on short notice.

01:09:18.000 Thanks to At Not K. Jared Edward, the sound guy.

01:09:21.000 G. Morgan Jr.

01:09:23.000 had to pee.

01:09:23.000 So he is no longer here.

01:09:25.000 He's out.

01:09:26.000 I'm kidding.

01:09:27.000 We fired him.

01:09:29.000 Thank you so much.

01:09:30.000 Thank you for this week.

01:09:31.000 Like I said, next week we will not have shows Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, because we'll be flying out to L.A. doing Joe Rogan's show on Wednesday the 15th, but we will have a show on Thursday.

01:09:41.000 So we have some work to do in the studio and going out to do that show with Joe.

01:09:44.000 I appreciate him having me on.

01:09:46.000 Looking forward to seeing you then.

01:09:48.000 Always looking forward to seeing you there.

01:09:49.000 Listen, if there's any kind of a takeaway here this week, first off, we hope that you were entertained.

01:09:53.000 That's the main thing.

01:09:55.000 One thing we've talked about, if ever we get recognized in public or if ever we interact with people directly by email or when we do some of these calls with fans...

01:10:06.000 We're very thankful.

01:10:07.000 We're incredibly grateful to fans for actually keeping us accountable.

01:10:11.000 If we get a letter from a fan or someone says, hey, you know what?

01:10:14.000 You actually need to issue a correction here on the website that this was incorrect or this information has changed.

01:10:19.000 We always do.

01:10:20.000 And if you follow me on Twitter at S. Crowder, you usually see me thanking that person publicly.

01:10:24.000 We want that from you.

01:10:26.000 Genuinely, we do.

01:10:28.000 We prefer that you do it without Photoshopping me onto Amy Schumer's body. 0.95

01:10:34.000 But I understand this is the internet and it's a silly place. 0.97

01:10:37.000 Or plaguing my Twitter stream with naked pictures of I know who you are. 0.98

01:10:41.000 I will find you. 0.97

01:10:43.000 It's the birthmark.

01:10:44.000 That was the giveaway.

01:10:45.000 So we appreciate that.

01:10:47.000 We're incredibly grateful.

01:10:48.000 I was sort of trained under Andrew Breitbart himself.

01:10:51.000 He was the first person to ever post one of my videos on a website.

01:10:55.000 I posted it to YouTube.

01:10:56.000 We had some some pure comedy videos, my brother and I back in 2006 on YouTube.

01:10:59.000 But the first political video that I ever did that was posted to any website was Andrew Breitbart.

01:11:03.000 Second was Michelle Malkin.

01:11:05.000 And I spent a lot of time with him and he took me under his wing.

01:11:08.000 And he always talked about how sunlight was the best disinfectant.

01:11:11.000 And so even though we have to edit things for time on this show, I really hope that people understand.

01:11:19.000 And we'd never want to betray your trust in editing something out of context to make it seem as though something happened, which didn't.

01:11:26.000 And I think we would agree.

01:11:29.000 I mean, you're there, you shoot on this.

01:11:30.000 We really do try and go to great lengths while still making it funny.

01:11:33.000 And if you see this with Samantha Bee, you see it with CNN, you see it with Bernie Sanders, it really was an ideological difference.

01:11:40.000 I learned this under Andrew Breitbart.

01:11:42.000 That, as I've talked about before, the left relies on less information.

01:11:46.000 That's how big government works.

01:11:47.000 That's how big government operates.

01:11:49.000 That's how social justice warrior ideology operates, right?

01:11:52.000 Just racist.

01:11:53.000 Well, How?

01:11:53.000 What's the information?

01:11:54.000 You don't need the information.

01:11:55.000 This is the umbrella term.

01:11:56.000 Well, what's the government doing?

01:11:57.000 We just need bigger government is what we need.

01:12:00.000 Whereas conservatism, because it believes in individualism, can only operate in light of more information.

01:12:06.000 It requires it.

01:12:07.000 And even if we get things wrong, we really do want to operate, and I hope you do in your daily life, in being more transparent, in putting yourself in a position where you're beholden to honesty.

01:12:18.000 Because that's a good place to be.

Louder with Crowder - February 10, 2017

#122 DEAR WHITE PEOPLE! Ted Cruz and Gavin McInnes Guest | Louder With Crowder

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