Louder with Crowder - #134 TRUMP KEEPS WINNING! Georges St-Pierre and Mark Duplass | Louder With Crowder

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00:00:49.000 30 days seems about the right amount of time we need to ride this out.

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00:02:39.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.98

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00:02:53.000 Hey, there's At G Morgan Jr.

00:02:54.000 Thank you for being with us, sir.

00:02:55.000 Howdy, howdy, howdy. 0.96

00:02:56.000 Big show today.

00:02:57.000 Yes, indeed.

00:02:58.000 Huge show today.

00:02:59.000 I know we say it every time, but it's always a big show.

00:03:01.000 Sometimes we're not lying.

00:03:02.000 Sometimes we're not lying.

00:03:03.000 So today we will have Mark Duplass, of noted fame from the show The League, but also independent film director, filmmaker, writer, actor.

00:03:12.000 And then, I believe the greatest fighter to have ever lived, George Rush St.

00:03:16.000 Pierre.

00:03:17.000 Yes!

00:03:17.000 We'll be on.

00:03:18.000 Yeah.

00:03:18.000 Yes.

00:03:19.000 George St.

00:03:19.000 Pierre will be on.

00:03:19.000 The real George St.

00:03:20.000 Pierre.

00:03:20.000 I know people think, are you just going to do an impression?

00:03:22.000 No.

00:03:22.000 George St.

00:03:22.000 Pierre will be on, and we will be taking some fan questions, so you can tweet me at scrowder, and we'll have at JG Tremblay, Jean-Guy Tremblay, obviously a huge Rush fan.

00:03:32.000 We'll have him on.

00:03:33.000 We'll check in with him later for some questions.

00:03:35.000 Also, huge video package we have today.

00:03:38.000 We usually do these on Mondays, but...

00:03:40.000 Women's March went on yesterday.

00:03:42.000 It was supposed to be news, and everyone forgot about it.

00:03:45.000 The women's strike.

00:03:46.000 We didn't.

00:03:47.000 That's why there was no show yesterday, because we decided to join the strike, and the story was that there really was a non-story, kind of like Jared with the fight for 15.

00:03:55.000 It's BS, but a lot of craziness.

00:03:57.000 So we're going to have that at the end of this segment, the women's strike. 1.00

00:04:00.000 Was it day without women's strike? 1.00

00:04:02.000 Day without women's strike. 1.00

00:04:03.000 So we have a big video package on that.

00:04:04.000 Looking forward to that, Joe?

00:04:05.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:04:06.000 Because you were the only one who didn't go there.

00:04:08.000 No, I mean, yeah.

00:04:09.000 You had to work.

00:04:10.000 I had to work.

00:04:11.000 We all had to work.

00:04:12.000 Would have fired myself if I had struck.

00:04:14.000 Here's the thing.

00:04:15.000 What actually happened yesterday, I told my wife, you know, a day without women strike. 1.00

00:04:20.000 I was really busy because we were going on location.

00:04:23.000 We were all going out to shoot these packages.

00:04:25.000 And I said, you know, I'm really busy.

00:04:27.000 Hey, sweetheart, can you make me breakfast?

00:04:29.000 She did.

00:04:30.000 And then I took out the trash because we have an adult relationship.

00:04:33.000 Look at that.

00:04:34.000 Look at that.

00:04:35.000 That's how we celebrated.

00:04:36.000 Equitable.

00:04:36.000 By being adult.

00:04:38.000 And we might have even enjoyed some intercourse later.

00:04:40.000 Oh! 0.60

00:04:41.000 Whoa, hey.

00:04:42.000 We didn't.

00:04:43.000 It was a late day.

00:04:43.000 We got back late.

00:04:44.000 She was asleep.

00:04:46.000 Well, um...

00:04:47.000 Samantha Bee's in hot water.

00:04:49.000 Samantha Bee's in hot water because recently... 1.00

00:04:51.000 She hasn't been checking her sources.

00:04:53.000 We've been talking about this with...

00:04:54.000 What's his name?

00:04:55.000 The pool boy.

00:04:55.000 Chris Cuomo.

00:04:56.000 Samantha Bee.

00:04:57.000 We'll talk about Colbert.

00:04:58.000 But Samantha Bee's one of the worst offenders. 1.00

00:05:00.000 She has not been checking her sources and in doing a package making fun of conservatives, she made fun of this kid with...

00:05:07.000 Referring to it as Nazi hair. 0.52

00:05:09.000 Turns out the kid has cancer.

00:05:11.000 Oh, gosh.

00:05:12.000 That's tough.

00:05:14.000 Yeah.

00:05:14.000 Now, this is not the first time she's done it, granted.

00:05:17.000 Samantha Bee has run into these problems before.

00:05:19.000 She accused this guy of being a noted neo-Nazi skinhead.

00:05:24.000 And... 0.81

00:05:28.000 Sam B., you should know better.

00:05:30.000 Ouch.

00:05:31.000 In contrast, that's the funniest thing that's happened in our show in probably forever.

00:05:34.000 It is the funniest thing that's happened in our show in a while.

00:05:36.000 You know, here's the thing.

00:05:37.000 We wouldn't care.

00:05:37.000 We're not making fun of kids with progeria.

00:05:40.000 That's not the genre of that joke.

00:05:42.000 Samantha B. is a perpetually offended feminist, and she doesn't even realize that she's going to be cannibalized by this environment of social justice workers. 1.00

00:05:50.000 I guess they're not really workers.

00:05:51.000 They don't work.

00:05:52.000 Social justice warriors that she's created.

00:05:54.000 It's an accurate, Stephen.

00:05:55.000 Joke.

00:05:56.000 It's a long title for that genre of humor.

00:06:00.000 But speaking of Samantha Bee in Unfunny, she released this video in solidarity where there's a world with women. 1.00

00:06:07.000 I don't know if I've had a mealy mouth.

00:06:08.000 I sound like that Fat Albert.

00:06:11.000 Put on the hat, the purple hat.

00:06:13.000 Is it the purple hat with the mush mouth?

00:06:14.000 You may be a little infected by some of the feminism from yesterday. 1.00

00:06:18.000 It's gone down into my brain. 0.77

00:06:19.000 Is it mush mouth again with the purple hat?

00:06:21.000 I never watched it.

00:06:21.000 I don't know.

00:06:22.000 Bill Cosby creation. 1.00

00:06:23.000 Either way, someone's getting raped. 0.99

00:06:24.000 So, Samantha Bee did this video in solidarity for Day Without Women. 1.00

00:06:28.000 Hi, welcome to Full Frontal.

00:06:29.000 I'm Samantha Bee.

00:06:30.000 Only a week after the All-Star break, LeBron and company let the Celtics one game closer to first place in the East.

00:06:36.000 They're losing their lead faster than people in the Trump administration are losing their jobs.

00:06:40.000 I'm sorry, is that a sports joke?

00:06:43.000 Who wrote that?

00:06:45.000 I did.

00:06:45.000 It's good, right?

00:06:46.000 No.

00:06:47.000 Where's the audience?

00:06:48.000 Your audience coordinator's out today, so...

00:06:50.000 Oh, and about half the writers and producers, all your researchers, the digital department, half the control room.

00:06:55.000 Wardrobe, hair and makeup, clearly.

00:06:58.000 Hey.

00:06:58.000 And your stage manager.

00:07:00.000 Hashtag feminism. 1.00

00:07:01.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:07:02.000 Are you saying it's the day without a woman and nobody told me? 1.00

00:07:05.000 Yeah, but I think the show's going really well.

00:07:07.000 I am out of here!

00:07:11.000 It's like the unfunny soccer mom who shows up in the old Dodge Caravan and she's like, kids, I'm funny, right?

00:07:16.000 I'm the funny mom and we get some ice cream.

00:07:19.000 And you're like, no, stop it.

00:07:21.000 I brought vanilla Coke!

00:07:22.000 Stop it, Sandra. 0.99

00:07:25.000 Hey, have you heard?

00:07:26.000 Dr.

00:07:26.000 Pepper's got a new flavor of cherry.

00:07:31.000 It is so painful.

00:07:34.000 She couldn't even get the jacket off in one tear.

00:07:36.000 No.

00:07:36.000 Like, that's what really stuck out to me.

00:07:38.000 The worst part is, it's not really all that less funny than her normal show.

00:07:42.000 Tim Buck says, a woman wrote that bit.

00:07:44.000 I know.

00:07:46.000 Another five says it was Samantha Bee.

00:07:49.000 If there had just been one less woman. 1.00

00:07:51.000 There had to.

00:07:52.000 There has to be some truth to humor, right?

00:07:54.000 Yes.

00:07:54.000 There has to be some truth to humor.

00:07:55.000 Now, Jon Stewart, funny.

00:07:57.000 Stephen Colbert, when he was in character, funny.

00:07:59.000 Bill Maher can be funny.

00:08:00.000 But when your joke is, oh, we lost the whole technical crew, well, you can't do that and then bitch about how there are less than 2% women in technical jobs in the entertainment industry. 1.00

00:08:10.000 We all know that most camera operators, most editors are men. 0.99

00:08:13.000 You can't joke about how unfair it is with too many male writers and then act as though all the writing coming from men suck. 1.00

00:08:21.000 By the way, they're all gay beta men, it seems like, too. 1.00

00:08:23.000 Purely anecdotal, but every woman I went to film school with, they all sucked. 1.00

00:08:29.000 Just horrible, horrible. 0.98

00:08:32.000 Sorry if you're out there looking at this.

00:08:33.000 I fancy myself a real... 0.51

00:08:35.000 You were terrible.

00:08:35.000 I'm a trailblazer.

00:08:36.000 Oh, really?

00:08:37.000 Well, what's your submission?

00:08:38.000 Me cutting myself to Radiohead?

00:08:39.000 Oh, you're breaking some new ground there, aren't you, Copernicus?

00:08:43.000 Every single film expo.

00:08:45.000 Thank you.

00:08:49.000 Be creative!

00:08:50.000 Look at me!

00:08:50.000 I cut so that I feel!

00:08:54.000 This is a really dark show.

00:08:57.000 Where'd you go?

00:08:58.000 Can we fit in a few more Holocaust jokes? 0.88

00:09:00.000 No, we don't have the Holocaust jokes yet. 0.60

00:09:02.000 We'll get to them.

00:09:04.000 Okay.

00:09:05.000 Speaking of international incidents, Anne Hathaway spoke in front of the UN because of... 0.96

00:09:10.000 Stop there.

00:09:11.000 Hashtag internet.

00:09:12.000 No, you have to let me get through this bit.

00:09:14.000 He's a half a hater.

00:09:15.000 Because of hashtag international day without women, hashtag international women's day, Anne Hathaway decided to... 1.00

00:09:21.000 Sit before the UN, stand before the UN, I guess, depending on what she has on her feet.

00:09:26.000 I heard she just gave birth.

00:09:28.000 So she decided to stand before the UN and coach them on what we need to do as a society.

00:09:37.000 Let's watch.

00:09:38.000 One in four American women go back to work two weeks after giving birth because they can't afford to take off any more time than that. 1.00

00:09:46.000 That's 25% of American women. 1.00

00:09:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:50.000 Yes!

00:09:52.000 What's the issue?

00:09:53.000 As opposed to the how many weeks that men get off?

00:09:57.000 We take part in giving birth to a baby, too.

00:10:00.000 Often when you get home from a hospital, men are often helping to tend to the baby, the baby bottles.

00:10:05.000 Unless you have a deadbeat husband, because he's, I don't know, possibly a beta leftist who writes for Samantha Bee.

00:10:10.000 Yeah.

00:10:12.000 Let's see, next clip.

00:10:13.000 Maybe she gets a point here.

00:10:15.000 Equally disturbing, women who can afford to take a full 12 weeks often don't because it'll mean incurring a motherhood penalty, meaning they will be perceived as less dedicated to their job and will be passed over for promotions and other career advancement. 0.98

00:10:32.000 Yes.

00:10:33.000 As anybody who takes three months off would.

00:10:35.000 I mean, it's because they're discriminating, I guess, because they have a baby.

00:10:39.000 No, no, no.

00:10:39.000 It's because you do a job, right?

00:10:42.000 Yes.

00:10:42.000 You're doing a job, and we're paying you, right, because we need to do that job.

00:10:46.000 Right.

00:10:46.000 Then there were three months where you didn't do that job.

00:10:49.000 Sexist?

00:10:49.000 No, I don't think you're following me.

00:10:50.000 Okay.

00:10:52.000 You were paid for a job.

00:10:54.000 Yes.

00:10:55.000 Which you do.

00:10:56.000 Every single day.

00:10:58.000 Got it.

00:10:59.000 Then you stopped for 90 days. 1.00

00:11:01.000 Sexist bastard. 1.00

00:11:02.000 I don't think we're reading each other. 1.00

00:11:03.000 You missed the entire third quarter!

00:11:05.000 I get it.

00:11:06.000 We want to support mothers.

00:11:07.000 But when they talk about the pay gap, you're off for three months.

00:11:11.000 No man expects to take off three months.

00:11:13.000 I get it.

00:11:13.000 You didn't choose biology, but you chose to have a baby.

00:11:16.000 Them's the breaks.

00:11:18.000 Liberals seem to be really upset with reality.

00:11:20.000 Much more so than policies, even.

00:11:22.000 Yes.

00:11:22.000 I know.

00:11:23.000 Just reality is troublesome.

00:11:25.000 Problematic.

00:11:25.000 Well, okay, so she's making these points, and it culminates into her greater point, which I think I'm sure goes somewhere productive.

00:11:32.000 Whether or not you have or want kids, you will benefit by living in a more evolved world with policies not based on gender.

00:11:41.000 What?

00:11:49.000 Is it me?

00:11:50.000 What?

00:11:50.000 I was watching this clip today.

00:11:52.000 What?

00:11:54.000 What?

00:11:55.000 So, first two points.

00:11:56.000 Can you believe that we have to do these things because we're women?

00:12:00.000 Yes.

00:12:01.000 And the law doesn't recognize us exclusively giving us benefits while not understanding biological mechanisms that are outside of our choice by law according to gender.

00:12:10.000 Yes.

00:12:11.000 We cannot make laws according to gender. 0.74

00:12:14.000 Okay, please excuse myself while I put a revolver in my mouth. 0.74

00:12:17.000 What?

00:12:18.000 And this is what passes for brilliance among...

00:12:20.000 Like, here's the thing, no one...

00:12:24.000 Did anyone help?

00:12:25.000 Did she run her speech by anyone?

00:12:27.000 I mean, you know, before we do this show, does this idea work?

00:12:29.000 You know what?

00:12:30.000 That might contradict this point.

00:12:31.000 Or you know what?

00:12:31.000 That might not be intellectually consistent.

00:12:32.000 She sat there and she probably sat in front of her, I don't know, husband, live-in, boyfriend, whatever it is, and said, okay, I'm going to go over my notes.

00:12:39.000 Yes, sweetie.

00:12:40.000 I am going to talk about how women exclusively need more time off and maternity leave because of feminism. 1.00

00:12:48.000 Yes. 0.76

00:12:49.000 And then I'm going to bitch about rules based on gender. 1.00

00:12:52.000 Yes.

00:12:56.000 It just seems like...

00:12:57.000 No one?

00:12:57.000 It just seems like any...

00:12:59.000 Now, as long as you have a pair of knockers and a loud mouth, maybe some little bit of celebrity status, you can get in front of the UN. Looks like he was doing some transgender duck motion. 1.00

00:13:12.000 Like Howard the Duck. 0.97

00:13:13.000 This is feminist kata. 1.00

00:13:17.000 Oh, gosh, Anne Hathaway.

00:13:20.000 All right, okay, moving along the trail here, because we have a lot of guests to get to in junkie, Stephen Colbert.

00:13:25.000 I think Stephen Colbert was very funny at SNL, but it might be time to put that to rest, because it's been a while, and he was out there talking about Republican care, Trump care, as they're calling it.

00:13:37.000 A few things stood out at me.

00:13:39.000 Let's go to clip one.

00:13:40.000 There are some things they're keeping from Obamacare, kids staying on their parents' health care until they're 26.

00:13:48.000 Like, they're wildly cheering for kids, 25-year-old kids, on their parents' health care.

00:13:55.000 They're cheering about that.

00:13:56.000 These are grown adults.

00:13:57.000 These would be 18, then 21, then 22, I think, with health care, and kids are cheering 25-year-olds!

00:14:03.000 Jared, what's happening?

00:14:08.000 What's going on here?

00:14:09.000 Well...

00:14:11.000 I got things to do, bigger plans.

00:14:13.000 What are you talking about?

00:14:14.000 Where are you going?

00:14:14.000 I'm going to go back to...

00:14:16.000 I got some health insurance to get to.

00:14:18.000 Why?

00:14:19.000 I only work for health insurance.

00:14:21.000 Hold on a second.

00:14:22.000 You leave here, you're going to be fired.

00:14:23.000 26?

00:14:24.000 Yeah, no.

00:14:25.000 You're saying the law is up until 26?

00:14:27.000 Yeah, we're good.

00:14:28.000 No, no.

00:14:28.000 Up until 20...

00:14:29.000 You've already turned...

00:14:30.000 You're 26.

00:14:31.000 Everything.

00:14:32.000 It's up until 26.

00:14:33.000 Yeah.

00:14:34.000 No, no.

00:14:34.000 You're 26.

00:14:35.000 The law is 25.

00:14:36.000 Once you turn 26, it doesn't apply anymore.

00:14:37.000 You can't get insurance on your parents' plan if you're 26.

00:14:39.000 Up until...

00:14:41.000 It's up until not including 26. 1.00

00:14:43.000 Shit. 1.00

00:14:48.000 You do know you're still fired, right? 1.00

00:14:49.000 Yes.

00:14:52.000 So here's something else that occurred with Stephen Colbert.

00:14:54.000 This is what we have to work against.

00:14:55.000 Stephen Colbert was talking about the bill.

00:14:58.000 Well, everyone prays, yes, we don't want people to be adults until they're 26.

00:15:03.000 Second adolescence.

00:15:06.000 He talked about the rich getting a tax break from the new Trump care.

00:15:11.000 But there was something that stood out.

00:15:12.000 See if you notice it right here.

00:15:13.000 Let's roll a clip.

00:15:14.000 Well, good news, because the plan includes a tax break for insurance company executives making over $500,000 a year.

00:15:23.000 Okay, so did you notice anything?

00:15:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:27.000 This is CBS. BuzzFeed was his source.

00:15:31.000 Oh! 0.60

00:15:32.000 BuzzFeed was his source. 0.96

00:15:33.000 They want to bitch about people online and fake news and conservatives and misinformation.

00:15:37.000 You're using BuzzFeed as a source.

00:15:39.000 And if you watch Samantha Bee, it is across the board.

00:15:43.000 Their sources are almost exclusively Vox, BuzzFeed, Salon, Daily Kos, Slate, and what's the other one?

00:15:51.000 Daily Beast and Vice.

00:15:52.000 Vice.

00:15:53.000 Those are all their sources, unironically using BuzzFeed.

00:15:56.000 This is a grown-ass male using BuzzFeed as a news source.

00:16:00.000 So if you wonder why they're in an echo chamber or they don't necessarily understand how we could possibly think differently...

00:16:06.000 It's because BuzzFeed's his homepage.

00:16:07.000 No, again, no No one in the writer's room said, okay, you know what, that's good.

00:16:11.000 Yeah, but Colbert, hey, listen, let's just find that from American Enterprise Institute or something.

00:16:14.000 Let's find that stat from a think tank.

00:16:16.000 We read it at BuzzFeed, but let's at least grab a source that doesn't look like BuzzFeed.

00:16:20.000 We even do that.

00:16:21.000 If we have a story and it comes to us from some super ultra-conservative site, you know what, there's probably a liberal site that has it so we can use it as a source.

00:16:29.000 That way it's at least corroborated by someone who isn't just cheerleading.

00:16:33.000 Okay.

00:16:34.000 We're talking about this.

00:16:34.000 Attitude shift.

00:16:35.000 You know, there's been, I don't know if you've noticed this, there's been a major attitude shift with Donald Trump being president.

00:16:39.000 Now, not a lot of policy has come into play yet, but job growth in February.

00:16:43.000 This is huge.

00:16:45.000 According to the ADP, over 300,000 jobs were added in February.

00:16:51.000 A lot of those manufacturing jobs, these are private sector jobs, by the way, private sector jobs, over 300,000.

00:16:56.000 There's an idea.

00:16:57.000 By the way, it was way beyond their forecast.

00:16:57.000 Yeah.

00:17:00.000 That's important because numbers without context, they were projecting a really good month would be 160,000.

00:17:05.000 And they hit 300,000.

00:17:07.000 That's the second month of the guy being president.

00:17:09.000 So I know a lot of people have been tweeting this out there in contrast from NPR, this Twitter image here, the graph of Barack Obama's job growth, right?

00:17:19.000 You see it right there?

00:17:20.000 You can't see it probably on your screen if it's small.

00:17:23.000 Do you notice something there, Joe?

00:17:24.000 The number.

00:17:26.000 The number goes from $100,000 up to $400,000.

00:17:30.000 Okay?

00:17:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:31.000 Barack Obama never in his entire presidency had a $400,000 private sector job growth month.

00:17:38.000 So the fact that they make that as a chart, it's like me saying, you know what?

00:17:41.000 It goes from year to year.

00:17:42.000 I've made anywhere from $1,000 a year to $15 million.

00:17:47.000 It's somewhere in here.

00:17:51.000 As a matter of fact, I was really hard-pressed to find any months over 300,000, depending on the sources that you get.

00:17:57.000 His average for his entire presidency was 109,000 jobs added per month, which was lower than population growth.

00:18:04.000 So that's important to note.

00:18:04.000 Yeah.

00:18:06.000 Isn't that just so tricky?

00:18:08.000 100,000 to 400,000.

00:18:09.000 Why did you choose 400,000?

00:18:10.000 Why?

00:18:12.000 You don't want to set the ceiling too high.

00:18:15.000 They put it there so that people think he ever created 400,000 jobs in a month.

00:18:18.000 It never happened.

00:18:19.000 Well, and he also, when he took over the economy, it was terrible, right?

00:18:22.000 So you should have gigantic growth, right?

00:18:25.000 You started off at the basement.

00:18:26.000 It should be way uphill from there, right?

00:18:28.000 At least we smart use percentages or something.

00:18:30.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:31.000 Anyways, that's what people will be sending around.

00:18:33.000 You need to look at population growth.

00:18:34.000 You need to look at job participation rate.

00:18:35.000 It's a little more complicated than that, but it looks really good right now.

00:18:38.000 Not only that, but we have a stock market that's gone up, I think, 15% under Donald Trump.

00:18:43.000 We were talking about this illegal immigration at the border.

00:18:47.000 This is down 40% at the southern border in February.

00:18:50.000 40% decrease.

00:18:52.000 Just from somebody standing up saying, no.

00:18:55.000 That's all they tell.

00:18:56.000 Who knew?

00:18:57.000 I'm going to go to America.

00:18:58.000 Don't go!

00:18:59.000 Don't go!

00:18:59.000 These guys mean what he's saying!

00:19:02.000 He's mean what he's saying!

00:19:03.000 He's not going to depart me.

00:19:06.000 He's not going to imprison me.

00:19:08.000 He's mean what he's saying!

00:19:10.000 He's mean business!

00:19:13.000 I stay!

00:19:14.000 40% decrease.

00:19:16.000 That's what we would call statistically notable.

00:19:18.000 Yes.

00:19:19.000 Yes.

00:19:21.000 There's just an overall, and you can't judge this based on policy.

00:19:23.000 As far as policy, Donald Trump's actions have been better than his words.

00:19:27.000 But I do think there's an overall sentiment, if you look at where the job growth occurred in manufacturing and innovation here in the United States.

00:19:33.000 If you look at the stock market, you look at people not flooding across illegally.

00:19:36.000 There's an attitude shift.

00:19:37.000 It's not policy, but I think people are seeing, okay, there's light at the end of the tunnel as far as stifling regulation.

00:19:44.000 Maybe we're going to enter into an era where we'll actually be able to thrive as business creators as opposed to being punished.

00:19:50.000 Do you sense?

00:19:51.000 It's just a sense that I get.

00:19:52.000 Yeah, there's economic optimism out there right now.

00:19:55.000 Good point.

00:19:55.000 People don't necessarily know how to put their finger on it yet, but they're optimistic, which means they spend more money, and that trickles down to everybody.

00:20:00.000 Oh, there's that word.

00:20:01.000 Oh, I love it.

00:20:02.000 People get so mad.

00:20:03.000 It's trickled down.

00:20:04.000 I don't know if you told me at the wrong time, but Zhangji's trying to call in.

00:20:06.000 Oh, Zhangji's trying to call in?

00:20:07.000 He's on line three.

00:20:08.000 Oh, okay.

00:20:08.000 Well, yeah.

00:20:09.000 So we have Zhangji.

00:20:10.000 We're going to have Georges St-Pierre on, and we are going to have Jean-Guy on.

00:20:13.000 Jean-Guy, you're there.

00:20:13.000 Are you excited to talk with Georges St-Pierre here today?

00:20:15.000 Okay, like the last time you do, okay, I get it, right?

00:20:18.000 You get me on here excited, and it's you doing an impression, Carly.

00:20:23.000 It's not the real GSP, okay?

00:20:24.000 No, no, no.

00:20:25.000 Not the first time I fall for that.

00:20:27.000 No, actually, that's not the case here today, Jean-Guy.

00:20:30.000 Jared, tell him.

00:20:30.000 We have the real Georges St-Pierre on.

00:20:32.000 It's the real one.

00:20:33.000 It's the real Georges St-Pierre.

00:20:34.000 We're going to have him on after Mark Duplass today.

00:20:37.000 GSP for real, man?

00:20:38.000 For real, I swear.

00:20:39.000 Oh my god!

00:20:40.000 Man, I can never believe that!

00:20:43.000 GSP, man, no!

00:20:44.000 My god, I'm gonna lose my mind that I'm your biggest fan!

00:20:48.000 No, let me just calm down.

00:20:50.000 He's excited.

00:20:51.000 Oh my god, man!

00:20:56.000 Okay.

00:20:56.000 He's not on now.

00:20:58.000 We're going to have you back.

00:20:59.000 He called in early.

00:21:00.000 He's not on now.

00:21:00.000 Can he even hear me?

00:21:01.000 I don't think he can hear you.

00:21:02.000 Jean-Guy, we need you to calm down.

00:21:04.000 We need you to...

00:21:05.000 No.

00:21:06.000 Let's cut it.

00:21:07.000 We can't have him on with George in here.

00:21:09.000 He's too big a guest.

00:21:09.000 Cut it.

00:21:11.000 We can't have him on.

00:21:12.000 Wow.

00:21:12.000 Very excited, though.

00:21:13.000 Very excited.

00:21:14.000 I appreciate his enthusiasm.

00:21:15.000 We cannot have him on with George in here.

00:21:17.000 Call him during the break.

00:21:19.000 Jared, let's see if we can call him next time.

00:21:21.000 No, not George's first time on the show.

00:21:23.000 Okay, so we have to do this right before then.

00:21:24.000 We will have Mark Duplass and George St.

00:21:26.000 Pierre.

00:21:27.000 Let's set this up.

00:21:28.000 We went to the Women's March, the Women's Strike.

00:21:31.000 Now, okay, Jared, what would you say the big takeaway was here to the Women's Strike?

00:21:36.000 Is there supposed to be a takeaway?

00:21:38.000 Well, we went to the Women's March in Austin not long ago.

00:21:42.000 Yes, the biggest march of all women.

00:21:44.000 Biggest march of all time.

00:21:45.000 What was remarkable was we went here.

00:21:47.000 There were two different campuses.

00:21:48.000 We went, and there were like three people.

00:21:51.000 Yeah, I think the left has tuckered out.

00:21:53.000 Yeah, I think the left has tuckered themselves out, and I don't think there's the same kind of Soros funding here.

00:21:57.000 No.

00:21:58.000 And we spoke with them.

00:21:59.000 So one thing that was remarkable, no one was on strike, by the way, except for us.

00:22:03.000 No one was on strike.

00:22:04.000 And then they were lucky to get, I don't know, 50 people at night at a gathering where they were speaking at a town square.

00:22:11.000 This is around Dallas, Texas, and there weren't many marches actually anywhere.

00:22:15.000 There was Washington Square Park.

00:22:17.000 It lasted a very short amount of time.

00:22:18.000 It was not nearly as big as even a The whole point seemed to be we can't strike because we need the money, so therefore we need more money at our work so we can strike.

00:22:26.000 About not having more money at work?

00:22:28.000 I don't know.

00:22:28.000 I want you to pay me more.

00:22:30.000 Okay, good.

00:22:30.000 I'll see you tomorrow.

00:22:31.000 Not exactly.

00:22:33.000 There's a twist.

00:22:35.000 It is remarkable that, well, first off, they wanted to be more inclusive.

00:22:40.000 They didn't like all the pussy hats and stuff, and so it was perfect for Stephanie and Janelle. 0.92

00:22:44.000 We sent Stephanie and Janelle in because they all wanted to be trans-friendly.

00:22:47.000 It has nothing to do with feminism anymore. 1.00

00:22:50.000 It has nothing to do with equal rights.

00:22:51.000 They weren't striking off of work.

00:22:53.000 It was organized by the college socialist group.

00:22:56.000 They were calling each other comrades.

00:22:58.000 They were openly encouraging communism.

00:23:00.000 It was about LGBTQ AIP and unionizing.

00:23:04.000 They said women couldn't make it in this country without capitalism. 1.00

00:23:07.000 It had nothing to do with equal rights.

00:23:09.000 It was free abortion and communism and no one showed up. 0.93

00:23:13.000 And insane Chinese speaker. 1.00

00:23:14.000 Does that make sense? 0.80

00:23:15.000 I think we'll let you watch this for yourself, but if you had to just summarize it, free abortion, free stuff, yay communism, we don't want to work.

00:23:25.000 Enjoy the video.

00:23:32.000 There was the Women's March, then #DayWithoutImmigrants, Not to be outdone, the feminists came roaring back with hashtag Day Without a Woman on March 8th. 1.00

00:23:42.000 It was publicized everywhere, all over media, new media, Facebook, front page of YouTube.

00:23:46.000 After it started taking place, however, there was no mention of it.

00:23:52.000 Thankfully, me and my producer went down to the protests.

00:23:55.000 And what did we find?

00:23:56.000 Well, a very small group of slightly large, nonsensical young women who really just wanted, in the name of equality... 1.00

00:24:04.000 Everything?

00:24:05.000 We also do call for full reproductive rights, including completely free access to abortion.

00:24:13.000 You know, these are things that we call for because abortion is not just a woman's issue. 1.00

00:24:17.000 Abortion is a trans issue. 0.74

00:24:19.000 Abortion is a man's issue. 1.00

00:24:20.000 Abortion is an issue.

00:24:21.000 That's an international issue.

00:24:22.000 It is, it is.

00:24:23.000 It's a man without apology.

00:24:25.000 Nobody has the right to legislate against anyone's body and tell them what they can and cannot.

00:24:33.000 That sounds just like the previous Women's March. 0.99

00:24:35.000 So what made this one different?

00:24:37.000 We're kind of ditching the capitalism, the heteronormativity, the transphobia, the cis-sexism that was so rampant with the Women's March.

00:24:47.000 Right.

00:24:47.000 And we're going into something more intersectional, more inclusive.

00:24:52.000 Okay, that was what I was going to say.

00:24:53.000 And more radical.

00:24:53.000 The point of capitalism is that there's an exploiting class and an exploiting class class.

00:25:02.000 Environmental justice is reproductive justice, and environmental justice is a feminist issue. 1.00

00:25:07.000 But the f***ing problem with this, to borrow from a comrade, is that what happens when you break a glass ceiling is it leaves the shards for millions of women that are below to step on. 0.98

00:25:19.000 You know, the truth of the matter is, even when I'm talking right now, this is unpaid labor, you know? 0.88

00:25:23.000 It's important to recognize these things.

00:25:25.000 The education that we do and the work that we do is unpaid labor.

00:25:28.000 It still begs the question, what does any of this have to do with feminism? 1.00

00:25:32.000 And as far as event attendance, a big swing and a miss.

00:25:36.000 As, you know, revolutionary socialists, who are many of the people organizing this, we're not here to promote cis-sexism or heteronormativity, especially if they're about feminism, which is not about biological determinants of anything.

00:25:49.000 The vaginas, the experience, not only is that image detrimental to people who don't have that anatomy, or people who are uncomfortable with their anatomy, it's not inclusive. 0.87

00:26:01.000 It would be hard to say that about it.

00:26:02.000 It's also pink. 0.89

00:26:04.000 And not everybody has pink genitalia, you know? 0.96

00:26:07.000 It's true. 0.98

00:26:07.000 It is, uh, and it was very much just a white women's march. 0.98

00:26:11.000 What's happening here is we have a Nazi that's going, that is going, is supporting what's coming up here. 0.84

00:26:11.000 Okay. 0.84

00:26:19.000 We have open white supremacists in office now, um, and truthfully...

00:26:24.000 Uh, Steve Bannon.

00:26:24.000 Like who?

00:26:26.000 He's an open white supremacist? 0.93

00:26:28.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:26:28.000 Who's a Nazi? 0.94

00:26:29.000 Bannon.

00:26:30.000 Oh, okay, okay, we're back to, okay.

00:26:32.000 So what, is there a specific reason for the red?

00:26:34.000 Um, so the red, uh, actually, historically, Women's Day was, um, uh, a day of national action with socialists.

00:26:42.000 Sure.

00:26:42.000 And, uh, so we decided to wear red, uh, in solidarity with God.

00:26:46.000 Is red, like, an official Socialist Party color?

00:26:48.000 Or is it...

00:26:49.000 It's kind of close.

00:26:50.000 I mean...

00:26:50.000 So kind of like the communism sort of red?

00:26:52.000 Yeah.

00:26:53.000 Okay, so an offshoot.

00:26:55.000 Are you on strike from teaching today?

00:26:56.000 Actually, I'm not a teacher this semester, but I am definitely striking from helping other faculty at a woman's university. 1.00

00:27:02.000 Okay.

00:27:02.000 Which would probably be, I don't know, striking.

00:27:04.000 And I kick ass, thank you very much. 0.98

00:27:06.000 Because I'm a pirate, and we do things much differently. 0.97

00:27:09.000 Okay, but you're not teaching this semester?

00:27:11.000 I am not.

00:27:12.000 And if you were, you wouldn't be today?

00:27:13.000 You better believe it.

00:27:14.000 Well, this event on this campus was very small and somewhat depressing, but we were assured that there would be hundreds later on at the town square, and the next campus over would be much bigger with a lot more going on, so we decided to check that out.

00:27:27.000 Would you mind pointing that away from us until we know what's going on here?

00:27:30.000 Sure.

00:27:31.000 You can point that.

00:27:32.000 Like in that direction?

00:27:33.000 He can.

00:27:34.000 You can point in that direction.

00:27:34.000 Sure.

00:27:35.000 Or turn it off and like point it in that direction.

00:27:37.000 Well, we're just doing that.

00:27:38.000 He's following us.

00:27:39.000 I asked him not to point it at me.

00:27:40.000 No, he's pointing it at me though.

00:27:41.000 We're doing a documentary.

00:27:43.000 I don't know why this is still contentious.

00:27:44.000 Point that in the other direction and talk to us.

00:27:46.000 And then we can maybe appear to be on it.

00:27:48.000 But that's not what you're doing.

00:27:49.000 And what you're doing is actually really alienating everyone here.

00:27:52.000 Really?

00:27:53.000 I don't see anyone else here who's really upset.

00:27:55.000 And if you don't want to speak with us because you're uncomfortable, that's okay.

00:27:55.000 You don't need it.

00:27:58.000 No, I was...

00:27:59.000 No, I get it.

00:27:59.000 I get it.

00:28:00.000 You're uncomfortable.

00:28:01.000 Okay.

00:28:01.000 Don't film them.

00:28:02.000 We're disengaging.

00:28:03.000 Okay.

00:28:04.000 That's fine.

00:28:05.000 You can diseng.

00:28:05.000 We asked you not to.

00:28:06.000 We wanted to.

00:28:07.000 He's filming me.

00:28:08.000 That's okay.

00:28:09.000 Okay.

00:28:09.000 Sure.

00:28:10.000 That's fine.

00:28:11.000 Also, we just asked you not to, like, point the camera at us, but you keep doing it.

00:28:13.000 Sorry.

00:28:14.000 You're uncomfortable.

00:28:15.000 That's okay.

00:28:15.000 Hey, listen.

00:28:16.000 It's not new to us.

00:28:17.000 It's not new to us with you being uncomfortable with us.

00:28:19.000 That's okay.

00:28:20.000 We understand it.

00:28:21.000 We respect it.

00:28:21.000 You need your space.

00:28:23.000 Oh, skunked again.

00:28:24.000 That only left us with the march on down to Town Square.

00:28:27.000 It was time to let their freak flag fly, all 14 of them. 0.97

00:28:33.000 That was a white supremacist. 0.99

00:28:35.000 That was a who? 0.97

00:28:36.000 That was a white supremacist.

00:28:38.000 Oh, he just told me he liked my red outfit. 1.00

00:28:40.000 Oh, he's probably being an asshole. 1.00

00:28:42.000 They're all f***ing Trevor supporters. 1.00

00:28:45.000 He's a white supremacist? 1.00

00:28:46.000 Yeah.

00:28:47.000 So someone recognized you?

00:28:49.000 Yeah, they just...

00:28:49.000 And then Kroger got upset?

00:28:50.000 Yeah, they were just like, you know, you need to go to the back.

00:28:55.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

00:28:55.000 That type of shit. 1.00

00:28:56.000 Oh. 1.00

00:28:57.000 What's the killing of black trans women? 1.00

00:28:58.000 So, like, the majority of, like, violence committed against, like, Like, trans people and trans women in particular are, like, targeted for, like, a lot, like, in terms of, like, police violence and just, like, intimate partner violence and, like, a lot of them, like, I don't want to say a lot of them, but there are, like, there's a significant part of the trans population that's, like, that are sex workers because they're, like, forced into sex work oftentimes because, like, they don't have any avenues for employment because of employment discrimination.

00:29:19.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm like, what?

00:29:21.000 So one of those things that's kind of, yeah, I think we've all had that.

00:29:26.000 Yeah, so...

00:29:27.000 Like, oftentimes they're, like, targeted for, like, with, like, violence, and often, like, there's a lot, there's a significant, like...

00:29:33.000 There are some of them that...

00:29:36.000 Like, that's why you need a lawyer to do anything without changes.

00:29:40.000 Yeah.

00:29:40.000 But, like, what are they doing?

00:29:41.000 So, like, trans women of color and particularly, like, black trans women are often the ones that are, like, most likely to be targeted for, like, violence like this and, like, murders and things.

00:29:49.000 Okay.

00:29:50.000 And so it's, like, a particular issue.

00:29:51.000 Like, I think seven trans people have been murdered so far this year.

00:29:55.000 Like, and the trans population is not big.

00:29:56.000 There's a huge wage gap, not only from white women to white males, but also, like, Asian-American women, Hispanic women.

00:30:05.000 Right.

00:30:05.000 They're all getting paid 75 cents, 65 cents, 45 cents is what I think Hispanic women are being paid to the dollar.

00:30:12.000 Four of them were trans women, like, were black trans women specifically, so, like, it, like, definitely, like, just, like, proportionately speaking, like, it's, like, a significant issue.

00:30:22.000 Like, it's just, like...

00:30:23.000 It's like an intersection of white supremacy and trans folks.

00:30:26.000 That's huge. 0.78

00:30:26.000 That's unbelievable. 0.78

00:30:27.000 So seven murders, gosh.

00:30:29.000 So we didn't get to stay for the whole thing because, well, it was a little long and boring.

00:30:33.000 There was nothing interesting about that.

00:30:34.000 The most telling thing to me, though, was it had literally, like, nothing to do with feminism.

00:30:39.000 Very little.

00:30:41.000 Comrades, socialists, communism, abortion on demand, period, and unions.

00:30:49.000 Very little to do with women's rights.

00:30:52.000 Also, very few people. 0.98

00:30:54.000 And that one dog, I think, was a white supremacist. 0.91

00:30:59.000 I saw it barking at one of the colored folk. 0.93

00:31:01.000 He was.

00:31:02.000 Disgusting. 1.00

00:31:03.000 Frankly. 0.97

00:31:04.000 So it didn't really have a whole lot to do with feminism. 1.00

00:31:07.000 And we'll come back and we'll talk about it again at a time.

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00:33:59.000 Very glad to have our next guest on.

00:34:00.000 I am a...

00:34:01.000 Here's the deal.

00:34:02.000 We disagree politically.

00:34:03.000 This is how we met via Twitter, but very respectfully.

00:34:06.000 Long-time fan, actually.

00:34:07.000 I've been following him since my brother introduced me to the Puffy Chair. 1.00

00:34:11.000 He's an Austinite, and of course he has been on the show The League, where actually a character there, John Lajwa, his brother, was in my graduating class.

00:34:19.000 We were very close friends.

00:34:20.000 Mark Duplass, thank you for being on, sir.

00:34:22.000 Thank you for the invite and letting one of the infidels come onto your show. 1.00

00:34:26.000 I appreciate it.

00:34:28.000 I'm excited to be here.

00:34:31.000 And represents my snowflake libtard tribe. 1.00

00:34:35.000 Yes, well, libtard is not a term that we use here.

00:34:38.000 We actually have a complete and total ban on that at the show because it's just comedically lazy.

00:34:44.000 But I understand.

00:34:45.000 I understand you probably get a lot of that in your timeline.

00:34:48.000 Listen, I appreciate you coming on the show.

00:34:50.000 Honestly, we've talked about this.

00:34:51.000 about this.

00:34:51.000 We've had a really tough time booking leftist guests or liberal guests, whatever term you want to use.

00:34:56.000 And we've had a couple that are great.

00:34:58.000 They always come back.

00:34:59.000 But last time, Michael Ian Black got a little heated, but a little heated.

00:35:03.000 I mean, screamed at me and then apologize and we'll have him back on soon.

00:35:06.000 So anytime we can have a discussion, I'm happy to do so.

00:35:09.000 And I do appreciate, you know, anyone who gets in and is willing to have the discussion.

00:35:12.000 So for those who don't know, this started, you were on Twitter and you said, listen, I feel like I've had a grasp.

00:35:17.000 I'm paraphrasing here.

00:35:18.000 You can correct me if I'm wrong.

00:35:20.000 I feel like I've had a grasp on sort of what what conservatives wanted.

00:35:24.000 But I don't understand anyone who really is on board with Yeah, I think, you know, look, I grew up in the South.

00:35:33.000 I was raised as a Republican.

00:35:34.000 I went to Catholic schools.

00:35:36.000 Like, I've been around it, like— Reagan was a god in our house and we were a believer in trickle-down economics and all of that.

00:35:44.000 And I actually also feel like I can understand those who, you know, felt like they kind of held their nose and voted for Trump because they felt like, you know, this is the best option for me.

00:35:55.000 It represents my party.

00:35:56.000 That was almost everyone here.

00:35:58.000 Yeah, like I wasn't on fire for Hillary, I'll be honest with you, you know, but I was like, Alright, there's some Supreme Court appointees coming up. 0.98

00:36:05.000 I kind of want to make sure my party's represented.

00:36:07.000 I get all that stuff.

00:36:09.000 I'm pretty pragmatic when it comes to that.

00:36:10.000 The thing that is mystifying me a little bit and that I'm really genuinely reaching out for, even though it occasionally sounds snarky on Twitter and I try not to, is...

00:36:21.000 If you're on fire for Trump, if you love this guy and if you believe in him, I want to hear from you because that is hard for me to understand.

00:36:28.000 Right.

00:36:29.000 No, and I think it was genuine, and that's why I responded.

00:36:32.000 And hopefully people understood that there wasn't snark.

00:36:35.000 It was mutual respect there.

00:36:37.000 I wouldn't say I'm on fire for Trump, but certainly a huge portion of this audience is.

00:36:42.000 So if you really are trying to understand, let me give you kind of the first example.

00:36:46.000 And you work in the entertainment industry, and like you said, if you were raised in the South, you kind of know the other side of that coin.

00:36:51.000 What a standard reasoner, when you think about it, the left has behaved so poorly, so badly.

00:36:57.000 They're so out of line.

00:36:59.000 Sorry to interrupt, but would you say from a political perspective on top or the fan base, the constituency?

00:37:04.000 I would say culturally right now, sort of this cultural leftism and politically.

00:37:07.000 I would really put in the entertainment industry in particular and then, of course, how people use the term mainstream media, though.

00:37:13.000 What is mainstream media anymore?

00:37:16.000 They behaved so badly.

00:37:17.000 Everything was an attack.

00:37:19.000 On conservatives for a long time, whether it was the Tea Party's racist, are there any violent acts?

00:37:24.000 They completely ignored the 500 felonies that occupy Wall Street.

00:37:27.000 They ignore all the violent protests that occur at inauguration, the feminist protests, the LGBTQAAIP, the acronym keeps extending.

00:37:37.000 Yeah.

00:37:58.000 Like, we're not happy about the healthcare bill, but when people freak out and call, using the racist, xenophobic, sexist, transphobic card now is kind of done being played forever, and a lot of people are happy with that.

00:38:11.000 Why is that done being played forever?

00:38:13.000 I don't understand that.

00:38:14.000 Because they accused everyone of being racist, sexist, xenophobic.

00:38:17.000 Let me give you an example.

00:38:19.000 Your argument is that the left has cried wolf for so long that you can't hear it anymore. 0.95

00:38:25.000 Yeah, well, they're saying it about Donald Trump, but it's like, yeah, Donald Trump's racist.

00:38:28.000 Yeah, but you said it about Mitt Romney.

00:38:30.000 Everyone now, they retroactively say, let me ask you this, genuinely, because you said you had kind of a handle on conservatives and what you think they want.

00:38:38.000 If we were to go back...

00:38:39.000 What were you saying about, like, Mitt Romney or McCain?

00:38:42.000 Were you saying, hey, I disagree with him, but they're really good guys?

00:38:45.000 Or were you maybe saying, hey, they don't care about the poor?

00:38:48.000 Hey, these are white privileged people?

00:38:50.000 Because that was always the attack on every mainstream Republican, and they got sick of it.

00:38:54.000 Yeah, you know, I was not as...

00:38:57.000 I'm vehemently opposed to those two guys as I was to Trump.

00:39:01.000 And a lot of it is, admittedly, and I think you feel this, is less about policy and more about personal behavior and being a symbol for our youth.

00:39:14.000 I have two daughters who are nine and four years old, and they watch these things with me.

00:39:20.000 It's important to me, even though it doesn't always directly affect policy on a microcosmic level.

00:39:26.000 But that person represent moral righteousness and be a good person who I believe at their core has the best interests of everyone in this country at their heart.

00:39:38.000 And I could be totally wrong and I could be totally uneducated.

00:39:41.000 But when I feel Donald Trump and when I look at him, I see a very astute businessman and a really smart guy who learned that there was a section of America who felt left behind.

00:39:54.000 And he targeted them and he campaigned correctly to them and he won that election.

00:39:59.000 But I don't feel like.

00:40:00.000 like this has been his passion his whole life is to represent the underrepresented in america and it really comes down to that old adage of like uh you know when i went to college everybody said Don't take the class.

00:40:12.000 Don't worry about the microcosm of the agenda.

00:40:15.000 Take the right person, because at the end of the day, they're going to learn how to extrapolate all these small things and set this wonderful example of how to teach you how to be a beautiful, giving, loving, smart human being in the world.

00:40:26.000 And I really...

00:40:28.000 I take issue.

00:40:30.000 George Bush in the 80s, I think that guy's a good guy, and I think his intentions were pure, and I think he really wanted to help, and I didn't agree with all of his methods.

00:40:38.000 Stay in office.

00:40:39.000 That's just a disagreement.

00:40:40.000 That's a normal thing.

00:40:41.000 The moral compass of Donald Trump bothers me to my core.

00:40:47.000 Right.

00:40:48.000 I can understand that, and I can understand, you know, I do find it interesting that this is kind of the election, I think, if we were to agree on common ground.

00:40:54.000 This is the first time where the Democratic platform has ever argued that character matters.

00:40:58.000 They didn't with Bill Clinton.

00:41:00.000 They didn't for a long time.

00:41:01.000 They didn't when Barack Obama wasn't transparent with the passing of the Obamacare bill.

00:41:05.000 We all knew he was the least transparent president ever when we're talking about character issues.

00:41:10.000 And so now, again, that's sort of the political football.

00:41:12.000 I don't disagree with you.

00:41:14.000 Listen, I don't disagree that a guy on wife number three and some of the things that he said would be indicative of someone who's a narcissist.

00:41:21.000 I do think, however, the fundamental difference is conservatives, right-wingers, whatever you want to call it, and classical liberals look at policy.

00:41:28.000 And the policy from Donald Trump has been a lot better than his words.

00:41:32.000 And I do think with what you were just sort of talking about, that's what lends itself so much to leftists attributing motive.

00:41:39.000 And I know we're just saying in this case, it's Donald Trump, but that has been the political campaign, the political strategy for the left for decades.

00:41:48.000 It's always been racist.

00:41:49.000 It's always been conservatives don't care about the poor.

00:41:51.000 They're doing it now.

00:41:53.000 Republicans don't care about old people with Medicaid.

00:41:55.000 Well, no, that's not true.

00:41:56.000 We're not cutting programs.

00:41:57.000 We believe in fixing programs, right?

00:41:59.000 If you cut something from the menu because nobody's buying it and then you're replacing with something better, by definition, you're cutting it, but you're trying to fix something.

00:42:06.000 And I do think that is kind of to answer your first question, why a lot of people are seeing Donald Trump as a middle finger for two years.

00:42:15.000 Too many years, and there's only so much time where you can assume somebody's motive in their heart.

00:42:21.000 And they say, you know what?

00:42:22.000 That's not true.

00:42:23.000 And I'm done apologizing.

00:42:24.000 I think if Ted Cruz would have won this presidency, it would have been the exact same attacks.

00:42:29.000 Racist, anti-immigrant, sexist, because, you know, Donald Trump, for example, I don't think he's a sexist in the sense that I don't think he hates women. 0.76

00:42:37.000 I think he's a poor example. 0.95

00:42:38.000 But when people say the reversal of the reversal of the Mexico City policy...

00:42:42.000 Do you think that being a sexist is just hating women?

00:42:45.000 Do you think that's the only definition of sexism?

00:42:46.000 I don't think he discriminates against people because of their sex, put it that way, in the classical sense.

00:42:52.000 Okay. 1.00

00:42:53.000 But for example, you know, when people say he's sexist, okay, grab him by the pussy. 1.00

00:42:57.000 People will agree that's a sexist comment. 1.00

00:43:00.000 But then they say it's sexist for him to reverse Barack Obama's reversal of Mexico City policy.

00:43:05.000 Most Americans will say, hold on a second, he just doesn't believe that American taxpayer dollars should fund abortions overseas?

00:43:12.000 I don't think that's sexist.

00:43:14.000 And the entire left has accused that of being sexist, and so you create more conservatives.

00:43:19.000 Does that maybe stand to reason?

00:43:21.000 I'm just trying to answer the question.

00:43:22.000 I understand what you're saying there.

00:43:24.000 I wouldn't say that the second argument you've talked about with overseas abortions is the predominant one, that people take issue with Donald Trump's sexism.

00:43:32.000 I think things more like No, but they accuse it of being sexist, is my point.

00:43:35.000 So when you accuse that of being sexist, and everyone knows it's clearly not, people go, wait, hold on a second, maybe the accusation of sexism is just for political...

00:43:44.000 I don't think it's about the overseas stuff as much.

00:43:46.000 I think that's what you're hearing is the accusation.

00:43:48.000 No, it's trending everywhere that whole day.

00:43:50.000 The whole day it happened for weeks, and we were at the Women's March yesterday.

00:43:54.000 It was abortion on demand, period.

00:43:56.000 And until we are out from under the thumb of patriarchy and our abortions are taxpayer-funded, I mean, this is their mainstream policy agenda.

00:44:04.000 And so when they say it's sexist to disagree with that, people say, you know what, okay, I guess I'm sexist.

00:44:10.000 Just out of curiosity, just to get back to your character comments, you mentioned that you have some character issues with Barack Obama with transparency.

00:44:20.000 How do you feel, just from a personal opinion, and you don't have to answer that if you don't want to, the character of Barack Obama compares to the character of Donald Trump?

00:44:28.000 I think it's a valid question, and we've talked about it on air.

00:44:30.000 I think there's no question that Barack Obama was a fantastic, or as far as we know, obviously, listen, as far as we know as the public, fantastic father and a good husband.

00:44:40.000 Certainly a better husband than Donald Trump.

00:44:42.000 I mean, marriage number one, his wife adores him, seems to have well-adjusted kids.

00:44:46.000 I do think Donald Trump seems to have been a good father.

00:44:48.000 His kids seem like good people.

00:44:50.000 But I certainly would say, hey, I can see the argument that Barack Obama has a leg up in his familial life.

00:44:55.000 That's immediate family stuff, but in terms of global community and inclusiveness and willingness to see that every person has value and not favor one person over the other, how do you feel like he compares to Trump or those two compare?

00:45:08.000 Well, I think that's a loaded question because inclusiveness is not inherently a moral value.

00:45:12.000 Certainly not if you're including things that shouldn't be included in a civilized society.

00:45:18.000 For example, countries at a table who want to implement Sharia law, or people who want to wipe Israel off the face of the map, or people who demand that American taxpayers fund abortion overseas.

00:45:27.000 I have no problem excluding them.

00:45:29.000 I don't believe in globalist policies.

00:45:31.000 I do believe in the idea of putting your country and your nation first, especially when we're spending more abroad than any nation.

00:45:38.000 I think that's separate from a personal moral issue, but I would definitely concede territory that Barack Obama seems, even though he's ideologically misguided, seems in his personal life to have conducted himself in a moral way, you know, college and onward.

00:45:53.000 Does it ever occur to you, and this is where I get less educated and I literally genuinely am asking because I think that you spend your all day talking, learning about politics, and you probably know a lot more than I do on just a fact-to-fact basis.

00:46:08.000 The America First ideology that just says, I've been left behind.

00:46:13.000 If we're helping too many of these other people, it's going to take away resources from us.

00:46:18.000 Does that ever bother you on a personal level and from a Christian level of The message of, you know, I was raised Catholic.

00:46:25.000 I went to a Jesuit school that said men for others, and it was drilled into me.

00:46:29.000 And that's not just people who look like you and feel like you, but others is global.

00:46:33.000 Others is everything.

00:46:34.000 How do you feel about that as it applies to America first?

00:46:37.000 Does that rub you ever?

00:46:38.000 Well, I wouldn't go with a soundbite America First policy, right?

00:46:42.000 Because I disagree with the protectionist policies there, the tariffs, the idea.

00:46:45.000 You know, for me, I don't believe in America First if you have to pay a union worker three or four times the amount for lower quality.

00:46:51.000 So in that sense, I'm a free enterprise, much more of a libertarian.

00:46:54.000 But I don't think there's anything morally wrong with that or unchristian about that.

00:46:57.000 Certainly when you look at—and plus, by the way, it doesn't matter what we do.

00:47:01.000 This is where the politicization comes in.

00:47:02.000 Do you know who's done more for AIDS in Africa than all other presidents combined, and it's not even close?

00:47:08.000 It was George W. Bush.

00:47:08.000 Yeah.

00:47:10.000 And everyone accused him of being racist, and George Bush does not care about black people.

00:47:14.000 And, you know, there's this idea, too, and you see it all over Twitter from elite leftists, you know, America is an imperialistic nation.

00:47:20.000 And then they say, we're spending so much money.

00:47:22.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:47:23.000 We're an imperialistic nation where we're spending too much money abroad.

00:47:26.000 One could almost say that an empire is profitable, not costly.

00:47:31.000 We are the only country who uses our military as the greatest peacekeeping force that's ever existed, attempt to establish stable democracies, whether it occurs or not.

00:47:39.000 And we ask for nothing more than the land in which to bury our dead who provided them that opportunity.

00:47:43.000 I don't think that it's our job, certainly when it's a thankless job, to be the world's greatest charity, even though we are.

00:47:51.000 Second portion of that question, there's no such thing as coerced empathy.

00:47:56.000 So you're right, conservatives Christians do give more, a whole lot more.

00:48:00.000 Certainly like Barack Obama or Joe Biden gave less than 1%.

00:48:04.000 These people are millionaires to charity.

00:48:06.000 There's a great book called Who Really Cares by, I think it's Arthur Brooks.

00:48:10.000 They give a lot more personally.

00:48:11.000 We just don't believe that there's anything charitable about spending someone else's money.

00:48:17.000 Mm-hmm.

00:48:18.000 Well, you know, I'm glad you brought up the charity issue, and that's interesting to me because in the interest of trying to find the bridge and the commonality, which is essentially why I'm here, is to listen.

00:48:33.000 I'm reaching out on my Twitter, and I'm trying to reach out to, like, really true Trump supporters and hear things and listen because...

00:48:42.000 hearing is they don't want to hear from me.

00:48:44.000 They have a knee-jerk reaction to me and call me a name.

00:48:46.000 And what I'm hearing is they feel the same way about liberals.

00:48:49.000 So I'm just like, all right, maybe there's some work to be done here and just listening.

00:48:53.000 One of the things I'm trying to do right now is...

00:48:57.000 Build charitable campaigns for very simple bipartisan causes that everybody can get behind.

00:49:04.000 And even that is proving somewhat difficult at times.

00:49:07.000 I know.

00:49:08.000 So what you see, and since you're kind of steeped in your world, what are the things, if I'm like, hey guys, I have all these Twitter followers who will dollar for dollar match me when I run campaigns.

00:49:20.000 So occasionally I'll be like, I'm putting up the first 10 grand.

00:49:22.000 You guys match me.

00:49:24.000 What are the things that you see that are really important issues that you think could cross the divide that liberals would see too that we could go in on together and create You know, that 2% commonality gets us some bipartisan change that might create some goodwill.

00:49:39.000 Now, do you mean just as charities or basically pushing for some policies that we could all agree with?

00:49:44.000 Both.

00:49:45.000 It's broad as like, you know, look, I know when I reach out to conservatives, they tell me things like, I need to know that it's like 100% efficient.

00:49:52.000 That's always tricky.

00:49:53.000 You never really know if they're efficient.

00:49:55.000 Efficiency is really, really important.

00:49:56.000 It being tied to policy so that it's, you know, handing out fishing poles instead of fish.

00:50:01.000 Liberals agree with that, too.

00:50:02.000 You know, don't just like give money and stall the well and let the clean water run, you know.

00:50:07.000 So but I'm trying to really dig at these things because my goal is like you and I can sit here and argue all day long and spout facts at each other about why we're right.

00:50:16.000 And that will just be like everybody else.

00:50:17.000 I'm going to I'm going to try to say let's forget that for a second.

00:50:22.000 And let's join up on something and let's build something.

00:50:25.000 And just thank God I make a little bit of money on TV shows and use some of that capital to try and build something.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, well, I think it's a great question.

00:50:33.000 Actually, Dave Rubin is another guy you might want to pay attention to.

00:50:35.000 He was formerly with the Young Turks.

00:50:37.000 He's a gay centrist who is now becoming more and more right-wing just because he doesn't believe the left has any place for someone like him anymore.

00:50:44.000 I think privately that's easy, right?

00:50:46.000 You can get everyone on board with, you know...

00:50:48.000 Building wells for clean water in third world countries.

00:50:51.000 But as far as policy, I think that's really the question because it gets a little more complex.

00:50:54.000 Here's one that I think...

00:50:55.000 So you're saying it's more of a policy interest is what you're seeing overall?

00:50:58.000 No, I'm saying it's easy to find where conservatives and liberals, if you start a charity, you know, like let's give shoes to people who don't have shoes, you'll get all sorts of conservatives and liberals.

00:51:07.000 I think if you're talking about finding common ground...

00:51:09.000 How are you on that?

00:51:10.000 I get a lot...

00:51:11.000 Look, Twitter is the worst platform possible, but I get a lot of... 1.00

00:51:17.000 Hey, fuck you, buddy. 1.00

00:51:18.000 How dare you try to ask me for my hard-earned money to give it to these people who I don't have any clue about whether they're in this position because of what they did to themselves or whether they're a victim of society. 1.00

00:51:28.000 And they don't want to give unless they have empirical proof that this person is totally a victim of society and there's no sympathy otherwise.

00:51:34.000 So I get major confused.

00:51:35.000 Well, I think if you're talking about that 2% commonality, I think you're talking about a very fringe, fringe, small percentage of Twitter.

00:51:41.000 So let's have to kind of put them aside to unpack it.

00:51:44.000 My point is, I think you'll get everyone who wants, you know, to improve fellow Americans or other non-Americans' lives through charity.

00:51:52.000 I mean, you find that in every church across the country.

00:51:55.000 They don't just do church bake sales.

00:51:56.000 They send missionaries.

00:51:57.000 You know, we have people here who go on mission trips and things like that.

00:52:00.000 I mean, you name it in this room.

00:52:02.000 As far as policy-wise, I think that's more difficult, but I do think there are some things where we can find some common ground.

00:52:06.000 I think one, honestly, is school vouchers, school choice.

00:52:11.000 If we're going to be funding a public education system, and maybe, and this is, it could be me totally ignorant.

00:52:16.000 I've had policy experts who cannot give me an argument.

00:52:19.000 I don't understand how anyone could be opposed to the idea of attaching our current funding to the student as opposed to a mandatory school board.

00:52:29.000 That seems like something that, and I know because Betsy DeVos shouldn't be in that position, and I don't think she's super qualified. 1.00

00:52:35.000 People throw the baby out with the bathwater, but let's say we're spending $10,000 per student right now.

00:52:40.000 They have to go to a crappy public school that doesn't work.

00:52:42.000 I don't know any argument, and I would like to see the right and left come together where we say, you know what, let's just attach that to the student as a grant and allow him to take it any school to which he can travel, period.

00:52:55.000 I think that's something we could all come together on.

00:52:58.000 Yeah, I mean, one of the initiatives that I run is quite simply, most places you can hire a TA for a dedicated arts program for any public school, and it's about $11,000 a semester because you're not dealing with a lot of the bureaucratic red tape because they're actually just like a TA. And so, to your point of...

00:53:19.000 Education and children, I find that, like, that is where I find the most commonality between, from a just 30,000 foot view of liberals and conservatives, everybody, I see the eyes locked and I see, oh, these are kids, so they're clearly not responsible for their own situation they're in, so we can all get behind them and help them, you know, and that's a cause that I'm I'm very interested in trying to track.

00:53:43.000 But it is tricky.

00:53:46.000 I get surprisingly more pushback as I try to launch this initiative than I thought I would.

00:53:51.000 Well, I would love to see what it is and see where we can take part.

00:53:54.000 This is kind of what we're talking about on the bigger picture.

00:53:59.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:54:00.000 Is it possible, for example, for someone out there who's a Trump supporter, let's say, supports Donald Trump, voted for them, they're enthusiastic, supports a wall, supports immigration policy that's strict right now and is not a racist?

00:54:15.000 Can we allow room for that?

00:54:18.000 It's a tricky and a loaded question, you know?

00:54:21.000 I would say the economic policies and some of the basic things that follow conservative party lines, for sure, that doesn't have anything to do with racism, you know?

00:54:30.000 It gets a little more nuanced for me, and this question, you bring up a baby with a bathwater, like...

00:54:38.000 I want to secure my borders.

00:54:40.000 I do not want terrorists coming in here to park my children.

00:54:43.000 Sorry, that's my big dog.

00:54:45.000 He's just yelling.

00:54:46.000 He's like, God, get this libtard off the show. 1.00

00:54:49.000 No, no, not at all.

00:54:49.000 I appreciate having you on.

00:54:51.000 I hope to have you back.

00:54:52.000 Someone is outside the studio and he's our guard dog.

00:54:54.000 Sorry.

00:54:56.000 But that is hard for me to understand how many really good people who have good intentions and need our help coming into the country get kept out with such a stringent policy.

00:55:09.000 And it's not like we didn't have any security going on before.

00:55:12.000 So it's not as simple as, oh, they're clearly a racist.

00:55:16.000 Sometimes it's as simple as, My first priority is to protect myself, and I am frightened.

00:55:22.000 And if this by chance keeps out some people that I don't really know that well and I don't really understand because they're kind of far from me and not in my community, so be it.

00:55:31.000 I don't think that they're actively thinking, get them out!

00:55:34.000 I hate them!

00:55:35.000 But there's a little bit of a secondary effect to that that gives me pause, and it's inherently unchristian to me, and it bothers me.

00:55:44.000 Respectfully, if I could say, I think you have a bit of a blind spot there.

00:55:46.000 And let me clarify why I think that is.

00:55:48.000 Someone who I was describing exactly was my mother, who did not speak a word of English when she came here.

00:55:54.000 Worked a very skilled trade, has come here, has learned the language.

00:55:58.000 French-Canadian immigrant.

00:56:00.000 Is very proud now to be an American.

00:56:02.000 And she is the biggest advocate for legal immigration and a national language that you will ever meet.

00:56:07.000 A language that she didn't know and she had to learn.

00:56:09.000 And that's because she wants she came here for opportunity that wasn't available in socialist province like Quebec.

00:56:15.000 Cannot say anyone who comes from socialist countries, despite what people like Bernie Sanders will tell us, they're horrible hell holes as far as ambitions and dreams and opportunity.

00:56:23.000 And she doesn't say, I want to protect myself.

00:56:26.000 She would love for her family to be able to come here as well if they had an interest in doing so.

00:56:30.000 But she wants to preserve exactly the beacon that she followed to the United States.

00:56:35.000 And she sees the direction of immigration, certainly before President Trump, as one that could tear at the fabrics of that.

00:56:42.000 So it has nothing to do with her own personal interest, has her wanting the United States of America that she sought out to still be the United States of America.

00:56:49.000 And I think that's most people who support immigration policy.

00:56:52.000 And again, maybe I'm uneducated, but like what about when you're in a place of crisis like Syria?

00:56:58.000 You've been living in a camp for three years.

00:57:00.000 You're escaping an area that's oppressive, and you're a father who's got five daughters, and you are trying to get here to a place that is safe, and you are being shut out, and there are people here who are willing to help you land.

00:57:16.000 And the work ethic is there, and I'm ready.

00:57:18.000 I'm here.

00:57:19.000 I'm ready to say, I'm ready to donate that first $8,000 to $10,000 that's like a $2,200 minivan that barely gets by so you can get your kids to school, and English training for your girls so they can be integrated, and new job training for you dads getting to the hospitality industry, and we want to make you citizens and be the land of opportunity.

00:57:37.000 I don't want to shut them out, man.

00:57:39.000 I want them here, and I want to support, and I'm willing to quote-unquote Tax myself, or whatever you want to call it, and take some of the money I'm making to help support that.

00:57:49.000 Let me challenge you there if I can, because you're a pretty wealthy guy.

00:57:52.000 I mean, I'm not saying you're rich, but you're...

00:57:54.000 I'm super rich, yo!

00:57:55.000 I'm super rich!

00:57:56.000 Okay, so you're pretty wealthy, though.

00:57:59.000 You've done well.

00:58:00.000 Where I'm from, a middle-class household, I have disposable income.

00:58:04.000 I give away close to 10% to 20% of what I make in a year.

00:58:08.000 I'm lucky.

00:58:09.000 Really lucky.

00:58:10.000 Here's my point there, and I would challenge you on this.

00:58:11.000 Because you're wealthy, Would we both agree, and as someone who does pretty well myself, and a lot of our employees now do pretty well... 0.99

00:58:18.000 Dude, now we're going to get into an argument because I'm totally fucking richer than you. 0.97

00:58:21.000 Yes, yes, you are. 0.99

00:58:22.000 You are.

00:58:23.000 There's no doubt about that.

00:58:24.000 This is where we're going with the match.

00:58:25.000 This is the Donald Trump thing.

00:58:26.000 I am so rich.

00:58:28.000 You can't even imagine.

00:58:30.000 Could we both agree, though, that once you're wealthy, it's a lot easier to contribute financially than, say, time.

00:58:36.000 Time is a more precious currency for someone like you and I. I know you work like crazy.

00:58:41.000 The output from you is unbelievable.

00:58:43.000 So here would be my question.

00:58:45.000 You're willing to fund a van, right?

00:58:47.000 Are you willing to bring these people personally into your house and house them?

00:58:53.000 I cannot fit them in my home.

00:58:55.000 You just said you're super rich.

00:58:57.000 I assume you have like golden shark tanks.

00:58:59.000 Dude.

00:59:01.000 Silver.

00:59:02.000 Okay, all right.

00:59:03.000 That's a smarter investment to hedge against inflation.

00:59:03.000 Basic cable show.

00:59:06.000 I'll give it to you.

00:59:07.000 Silver, okay.

00:59:09.000 I mean, it's an interesting question, and it puts me on a spot, but I honestly don't understand the pertinence of the question.

00:59:17.000 Whether I personally host them or whether I am funding the program and there are people in place to help get them set, and I'm not doing it myself.

00:59:17.000 Okay, here's why.

00:59:25.000 Here's why.

00:59:26.000 What's the difference in net effect for them?

00:59:28.000 Yeah, here's why and track with me here and let me know if you don't understand it.

00:59:32.000 Because the idea, again, you have a lot of money comparatively to most Americans.

00:59:36.000 That's relatively easy for you to do to fund.

00:59:39.000 That's the same idea of the federal government funding.

00:59:41.000 Now, when you are dealing statistically mostly with middle-aged, perfect soldier-aged men who are coming over, these aren't mostly women and children.

00:59:50.000 These are mostly middle-aged men coming over.

00:59:51.000 And when you look at...

00:59:53.000 The countries like Sweden, like Germany, that have harbored these refugees.

00:59:57.000 You look at the skyrocketing rape rates, the skyrocketing murder rates, which is undeniable now.

01:00:02.000 Even the Swedish integration ministers that say this is a real problem.

01:00:04.000 the people who don't have a ton of money.

01:00:07.000 So the distance off we're giving away money have to live with this in their neighborhoods, have to live with the security risks.

01:00:14.000 They're driven to these things and it creates crime.

01:00:16.000 And so I'm saying a parallel.

01:00:17.000 It's really easy for people like us to say, we'll fund it.

01:00:20.000 But there are a lot of people saying, you know what?

01:00:22.000 You can fund it, but we have to live with it.

01:00:24.000 And every country thus far that's done it has gone the other way and rejected it.

01:00:28.000 But I'm, I'm funding a family of five and they're super sweet and there's a program in place that's there to guide them and I don't want an immigration policy that keeps them out and hopefully we can have something more nuanced that doesn't just empirically shut them out.

01:00:43.000 I believe that there's room for nuance.

01:00:45.000 There's plenty of room for nuance.

01:00:46.000 We're talking about six war-torn countries where people have come.

01:00:48.000 There's the reason these countries are on the list.

01:00:51.000 It is pretty nuanced, and it doesn't apply to people with work visas.

01:00:54.000 So it really isn't nearly as bad as people have made it out to be.

01:00:57.000 It's specifically targets countries from where people have immigrated and caused great problems.

01:01:04.000 And there have been great transgressions wherever they've immigrated. 1.00

01:01:06.000 And so Americans are now saying what retroactively Swedes, Germans, the Finnish are saying with God, we wish we didn't do this because it didn't work out.

01:01:16.000 And again, I think they can say, you know what?

01:01:18.000 Yeah, let's take the skilled immigration from Uganda, from Korea, from China.

01:01:23.000 No problem.

01:01:24.000 Just not the places where statistically they've brought a lot of rape and blowing stuff up with them.

01:01:29.000 And I don't think that means they're racist.

01:01:30.000 They're discriminatory and that they want to protect their country.

01:01:33.000 I mean, look, you make a very intelligent argument, and I totally hear you.

01:01:40.000 My opinion is that this policy feels a little more stringent than it needs to be, and if it's going to keep out this family and this opportunity that has placement— And you can say it's easy for me to throw money at them, but I don't have to live with them.

01:01:55.000 I would be more than happy to live with these people in my community because I've Skyped with them and I've talked to them and their work ethic is there.

01:02:03.000 It's the conservatives' wet dream, man.

01:02:07.000 They're everything.

01:02:07.000 They're coming here for a random opportunity.

01:02:09.000 They are ready to work.

01:02:11.000 They have been put upon.

01:02:12.000 They are bootstrappers.

01:02:14.000 The guy's going to do 16-hour days.

01:02:15.000 It's everything you want.

01:02:17.000 And look, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong because the truth is I understand that argument.

01:02:23.000 And these, what you and I are talking about right now, are pretty standard liberal conservative arguments that have gone on for years.

01:02:30.000 It's a healthy debate.

01:02:31.000 People are going to learn.

01:02:32.000 These differences are always going to be there. 0.94

01:02:33.000 What I'm troubled by and why I'm coming a little more forward now is this escalation and this gridlock that's happened and an utter lack of grace, patience and listening when it comes to bipartisan communication and bothers the shit out of me.

01:02:50.000 And I'm trying to figure out ways to cross that divide.

01:02:53.000 And the only thing I can think to do right now is to come with an open heart, try to admit my ignorance politically when I don't have it, and just say, I don't know, I haven't read that much, because I'm trying to do what I can and catch up.

01:03:07.000 And so show me, and show me your side.

01:03:10.000 And then at the same time, I'm trying to believe that, you know...

01:03:15.000 I'll call it that this might be my own agenda and trying to put my own agenda on someone, but I'm trying to believe that the spirit of charity, in particular charities that are dealing with people that don't exactly look and feel like the people in America who have voted for Trump and have felt like they have been marginalized and forgotten for other people that don't look and feel like them, that if we can come together on that little sliver of a bridge I don't know.

01:03:43.000 That's like...

01:03:44.000 Listen, man, and I think you're doing it.

01:03:46.000 I hope you don't think that I've come across as harsh at all.

01:03:49.000 I think this has been a very respectful back-and-forth conversation.

01:03:52.000 No, it's been great.

01:03:52.000 Okay, good, good, good.

01:03:53.000 I wanted to make sure.

01:03:54.000 I never want anyone to feel like they're sandbagged.

01:03:57.000 And I just think, I do think, when we talk about that, you might have a little bit of a blind spot.

01:04:01.000 And I would say more so than people in this room.

01:04:04.000 And the reason for that is, think about it.

01:04:06.000 I mean, I was raised in a socialist province.

01:04:08.000 I've worked in the entertainment industry my whole life.

01:04:10.000 You know, lived out of 82 Dotson in L.A. Anyone who's gone to college, anyone who is raised in public schools, goes to college, and works in media or the entertainment industry is surrounded by 99% the exact same view.

01:04:24.000 100%.

01:04:25.000 Yeah.

01:04:25.000 Well, 100% maybe even.

01:04:27.000 And by the way, you're an anomaly.

01:04:29.000 Because most people, I think...

01:04:31.000 We could hopefully probably agree.

01:04:32.000 The left certainly today is far less tolerant of differing viewpoints.

01:04:36.000 I mean, you see it from...

01:04:37.000 I would say the same thing about the right right now.

01:04:39.000 Honestly, I would agree that the tolerance level is...

01:04:42.000 You can't find any leftist show, not a single one, who will have this conversation.

01:04:45.000 It doesn't exist anymore.

01:04:46.000 And they won't come on this show.

01:04:47.000 And they'll say, don't go on Crowder's show. 0.99

01:04:49.000 He's clearly a racist, a Nazi, a bigot. 0.98

01:04:52.000 And you can watch the show. 1.00

01:04:53.000 It's not the case.

01:04:54.000 We don't do that with political opposition.

01:04:57.000 The left has become so intolerant of different points of view.

01:05:01.000 If you want to find common ground, if you want to see people, like I said, come together on that bridge, I have to disagree with you that the right is much more tolerant than the left of different points of view.

01:05:14.000 But then again, I'm a person who is on Twitter espousing things.

01:05:18.000 I mean, if you look at my Twitter feed, when I come out gently and I say, I am genuinely interested to figure out what is going on, the amount of vitriol, and again, it's Twitter, and I understand that, but it's not dissimilar to what's coming from the left.

01:05:32.000 I would agree with you and totally concede that we're 50-50 breadlocked.

01:05:36.000 If there's less tolerance on the left, I don't feel that.

01:05:40.000 I do think so, because there's only one side today, if we agree, only one side of the political spectrum fighting for free speech and one side fighting for less individual rights.

01:05:48.000 The platform today, the democratic platform, is less freedom.

01:05:52.000 For the first time, and I hope that you really zone in here, this is the first time in modern American history where any major American political platform, today's modern progressive left, are fighting and protesting I think?

01:06:21.000 And I understand.

01:06:23.000 Listen, Twitter is a horrible place.

01:06:24.000 I mean, I've had to work with the FBI counterterrorism online crime unit because of statements I've made regarding Islam.

01:06:30.000 So everything has had to be completely unlisted and secure. 0.97

01:06:33.000 And that's very different from an egg saying, you know, you filthy Jew, which I get all the time, despite not being Jewish. 0.97

01:06:38.000 So I understand where you're coming from. 0.98

01:06:40.000 But there's a huge difference in one side trying to silence free speech right now.

01:06:45.000 And that is not as a matter of policy anywhere on the right wing platform.

01:06:50.000 Well, you know, look, I'm not going to argue you all day long about whether one side is 50-50 or 40-60, and I respectfully disagree that there is much more tolerance coming from the right for liberal attitudes, but what I will 100% agree with you and concede is that there is gridlock here.

01:07:07.000 I would like to see more Right-wing people showing up on leftist talk shows and leftist podcasts.

01:07:16.000 If you're not seeing that, that's a really good thing to challenge, and you should challenge more.

01:07:20.000 My goal is to...

01:07:22.000 Honestly, like...

01:07:25.000 I'm not really almost here to debate as much as I am to listen and hear things.

01:07:31.000 And I would like to see a lot more of that.

01:07:34.000 And I think that if I could just say anything to your followers before I go, I would just say that if you can, try not to listen to any vitriolic...

01:07:54.000 How do I say this best?

01:07:56.000 Dickishness?

01:07:57.000 No, I would just say that a lot of the incendiary stuff that you're hearing from the left is fear-based, and there are a lot of people who are afraid of this regime.

01:08:09.000 And I think they have right to be afraid, and we can argue that until the cows come home.

01:08:13.000 But I think there are some people in there who have shown that there is some racist behavior, and I think that we're not going to call everybody racist.

01:08:19.000 And there is some misogynist behavior, though we're not going to call everybody misogynist. 0.96

01:08:23.000 And I would just say there are a lot more people who are confused, a little scared, um, But when I told people I was coming on this podcast, they were like, that's fucking awesome.

01:08:35.000 I would totally do that.

01:08:36.000 So I'm going to recommend my friends to come here.

01:08:39.000 Absolutely.

01:08:40.000 If you can try to open yourself and try to not make the first knee-jack reaction... 1.00

01:08:46.000 F*** you, libtard. 1.00

01:08:48.000 And just take that one step of grace. 1.00

01:08:51.000 I swear to God, it's going to work.

01:08:54.000 Because I've done it even on Twitter, which is the most horrible form possible.

01:08:57.000 It is terrible.

01:08:58.000 I've had wonderful, graceful conversations on Twitter.

01:09:00.000 And it works if you just stop that knee-jerk reaction.

01:09:04.000 Yeah, and if you don't pay attention to the people who are just looking to get a rise out of someone.

01:09:08.000 Absolutely.

01:09:09.000 And I readily admit, listen, we do...

01:09:10.000 I'm on my timeline and I get that.

01:09:11.000 Yes, and we readily do things that are incendiary, that are offensive, to prove a point, though we never actually go up to simply hurt somebody's feelings.

01:09:18.000 But we're in an era where everyone's feelings are hurt by something.

01:09:22.000 But we do try and conduct the interviews with people with a differing point of view this way.

01:09:27.000 Sometimes they get more heated, particularly when people come in guns blazing.

01:09:30.000 I would love to...

01:09:33.000 Continue this conversation another time, and if we do find something that we could both be on board with to support policy-wise, absolutely, and make it public so that people can see it as an example.

01:09:41.000 I am not beyond that at all.

01:09:44.000 And certainly anyone who's watching this right now, at Mark Duplass, please do be respectful if you disagree with him.

01:09:50.000 I'd like to think our audience is generally more mature.

01:09:53.000 You'll get a few people who don't like you, but they tend to be better.

01:09:57.000 I got a thick skin. 0.98

01:09:57.000 I don't really give a shit at the end of the day, but I appreciate it. 0.98

01:10:00.000 I appreciate that. 0.99

01:10:01.000 Well, the fact that a lesbian Jew like Sally Cohn has come back several times tells me that, all right, maybe people aren't too brutal as they are. 0.99

01:10:08.000 Like, the YouTube comment section is where dreams go to die. 0.85

01:10:11.000 That's even worse than Twitter.

01:10:13.000 It's just terrible.

01:10:14.000 Two things before I go.

01:10:15.000 Have you been tracking Van Jones' sort of 50-50 prison reform stuff?

01:10:21.000 Have you looked at that at all?

01:10:22.000 Well, I know it's been a big cause of his for a long time.

01:10:25.000 Lately, Van Jones has only been in headlines because, again, he had the gall to say, hey, Donald Trump sounded presidential, and now they're calling for his resignation at CNN. So if there's something recent outside of that, I haven't followed it.

01:10:36.000 Well, he's got a big bipartisan issue going on, and it's basically, if you're looking for that thing that's policy-oriented, that's like, what do we both agree on?

01:10:45.000 It's like, oh, the prison system is really, really screwed up, and this has had a...

01:10:51.000 Since the war on drugs, there's a really big problem here with black males, and everybody's behind it. 1.00

01:10:56.000 And so that's a really interesting thing on the policy front.

01:10:58.000 And then the last question I have for you is, if I was going to go back to my...

01:11:06.000 Super Hollywood liberal bubble, like the most loud, angry people in the world right now.

01:11:12.000 If you tell them something through me, because they probably won't listen to you, but they will listen to me.

01:11:17.000 What is the message that I can send that makes them...

01:11:23.000 I don't know.

01:11:23.000 You just want them to hear.

01:11:25.000 Well, you know what?

01:11:26.000 First off, I really appreciate that you've even asked that question.

01:11:29.000 And I will say you are a very rare breed in today's leftist sphere.

01:11:33.000 It sounds like you know that because you're saying they won't even listen to me.

01:11:36.000 Same thing with leftist shows.

01:11:37.000 It's very, very rare that we'll be able to go on there.

01:11:40.000 I want to turn on Fox News right now, and I think that it's because of this gridlock.

01:11:45.000 Neither do I. And people are realizing that we're going to have to open up and listen, and it's starting.

01:11:51.000 I really believe that.

01:11:52.000 The tide is starting.

01:11:54.000 I'm just curious on that front.

01:11:56.000 Here's the thing.

01:11:56.000 I don't have a problem with gridlock.

01:11:58.000 Our system was designed for gridlock.

01:12:01.000 Meaning that, as a matter of fact, the way the government grows the least, people who don't know this, is a Democratic president with a Republican House and Senate.

01:12:08.000 That's actually the way to keep government expansion in check the most, historically.

01:12:11.000 We saw that under Bill Clinton.

01:12:13.000 Isn't that its own version of gridlock?

01:12:14.000 It is its own version of gridlock.

01:12:16.000 And that's what I'm saying.

01:12:16.000 That's actually not a bad thing.

01:12:18.000 I think the polarization as to what you're talking about more, more so the personal vilification and people not being willing to listen, I think it goes back to the direct quote with President Obama when he said he came in.

01:12:29.000 It was very different.

01:12:29.000 As much as we don't like George W. Bush, the guy was a unifier after 9-11, and he actually was close friends with a lot of liberals.

01:12:36.000 He reached across the aisle.

01:12:38.000 Barack Obama came in and said, Republicans, you're going to have to get to the back of the line.

01:12:42.000 And that was a big FU. And people said, okay, That's how it's going to be.

01:12:46.000 And since then, it's been both the left and the right sort of following that line of thought.

01:12:50.000 To answer your question as far as going back to Hollywood, sort of the most loud, angry people.

01:12:56.000 Should I tell my friends?

01:12:58.000 Tell them?

01:12:58.000 Here's what I would say.

01:13:00.000 Even presenting the question that I did, listen, you have to allow room for someone who may disagree with you on every political issue, even the ones that you think are racially charged or somehow gender charged, and allow for room that they might just have a different idea on policy or how to fix the problem.

01:13:18.000 And if they do that, if they, for example, I don't think that liberals hate kids and don't want them educated when they want to put them into a failing public school system.

01:13:27.000 I think they believe that throwing more money at a failed system will help.

01:13:31.000 I just ask that they say to me, hey, you know what?

01:13:34.000 I don't think you hate all poor kids and you hate kids being educated.

01:13:37.000 I think that you see a failing system and you believe there's a different solution.

01:13:41.000 If we just allow for the possibility on every Even a guy like Jeff Sessions, who has had these racists, you know, would you say that he is a racist or no?

01:13:56.000 I don't believe he's a racist if you look at how much he's done and he got an NAACP award.

01:14:00.000 So I believe he's done some things that are bad.

01:14:03.000 And I believe that he's done some things that are very, very good.

01:14:06.000 I believe he's done some things that are tremendous for African Americans or people of color, whatever term now is the least offensive.

01:14:11.000 Sorry.

01:14:12.000 And I think you have to look at the totality of the man's character.

01:14:15.000 So I don't think because someone said, you know, what was it with...

01:14:19.000 Paula Deen, have you ever used the N-word in the last 10 years in a deposition?

01:14:23.000 I don't know about you, but I'm guilty every time I sing along to Kanye's college dropout.

01:14:28.000 Well, that's a different context.

01:14:29.000 Doesn't matter.

01:14:30.000 The question was, have you ever used it?

01:14:32.000 Ever used it, was the question in the deposition.

01:14:34.000 The same thing in the OJ trial.

01:14:35.000 So my point is, we can't just take one thing someone did or one thing someone said and say, they're a racist.

01:14:42.000 Do I have reason to believe that Jeff Sessions personally has disdain for people based on their race?

01:14:48.000 No, I have no evidence of that.

01:14:50.000 You don't?

01:14:50.000 I don't.

01:14:52.000 Okay.

01:14:53.000 I could be wrong.

01:14:53.000 I leave the right that I could be wrong, but I mean, again, you know, the NAACP, is it the NAACP? I think it could be the NAACP. Maybe it was another American organization that gave me an award.

01:15:02.000 There's a quote from him in 1985 saying something that's pretty brutal, and you know, you could say, oh, that was 35 years ago.

01:15:08.000 Right.

01:15:08.000 And that's a justifiable argument.

01:15:10.000 The only reason I ask that is that it's a different thing when you go back to an African-American woman and you say, like, I really need you to assume that Jeff Sessions has your best interests at heart and assume his intentions are good for you when I really need you to assume that Jeff Sessions has your best interests at heart and assume his intentions are good for you And that's a tough pill to swallow. 0.85

01:15:37.000 I hear your point.

01:15:38.000 I'm not saying you're wrong.

01:15:39.000 I'm just letting you know.

01:15:40.000 Would you do the same thing with Robert Byrd and that same black woman?

01:15:43.000 Thank you.

01:15:44.000 I don't know who Robert Byrd is.

01:15:45.000 Okay, Robert Byrd, if a plane went down, he was fourth in line for Barack Obama's presidency.

01:15:50.000 And was repeatedly, he wasn't just Klan dabbling, he was Klan dabbling.

01:15:54.000 What was his position?

01:15:57.000 So if you have vice president, vice president, president, was he president pro temporum of the Senate?

01:16:03.000 I thought it was Secretary of State.

01:16:04.000 I love that we don't know that.

01:16:05.000 Secretary of State.

01:16:06.000 No, no, basically, but yeah, fourth.

01:16:08.000 Fourth after Secretary of State, then President Pro Temporum is the next in line for the presidency.

01:16:13.000 So at that point, I believe at this point in time, if a plane goes down with Biden, Obama, and Pelosi, boom, Robert Burge, your president.

01:16:18.000 Robert Byrd filibustered the Civil Rights Act.

01:16:21.000 Of course, the Democrats did back then.

01:16:23.000 They were widely opposed to civil rights.

01:16:25.000 Robert Byrd was a top-ranking recruiter for the Klan.

01:16:28.000 And then, as recently as, I believe, 2001 or 2004, repeatedly used the term white nigger on air on Fox News in an interview.

01:16:38.000 So they were constantly saying, up until the 2000s, and Hillary Clinton said he's an example, he's reformed, he's no longer the same, and then he said that out!

01:16:46.000 After that, and he was still welcome.

01:16:48.000 Far worse than anything Jeff Sessions has done. 0.78

01:16:50.000 Repeatedly said he would never serve in the military with Negroes. 0.71

01:16:54.000 And I use that word to punctuate. 0.58

01:16:56.000 You can Google Robert Byrd, white N-word, and you will hear him saying it repeatedly, relatively recently in history.

01:17:04.000 And that's my point.

01:17:05.000 It's the politicization of political football.

01:17:07.000 So do I have evidence to say this person is a racist or...

01:17:10.000 With him, I certainly think he was.

01:17:14.000 With Jeff Sessions, maybe he was.

01:17:16.000 Do I believe he is now?

01:17:18.000 I don't have proof to believe that he personally harbors ill will toward African Americans now.

01:17:23.000 But, let's remove Jeff Sessions from the table.

01:17:25.000 I would still say, you don't even need to say to someone, they have your best interest at heart.

01:17:30.000 Just...

01:17:31.000 Can we allow for the possibility that they believe in a different solution to the problem?

01:17:36.000 As long as we allow that possibility, the conversation can occur.

01:17:40.000 Yeah, I think anybody would allow that.

01:17:42.000 I think that, you know, it flares up when we get to the details of what that solution is.

01:17:47.000 That's where it becomes problematic.

01:17:49.000 But again, you know, in my opinion, that's kind of more age-old stuff.

01:17:54.000 That's kind of like, you know what, yes, this is conservatives and liberals fighting and like, I'm okay with that.

01:18:00.000 We can get back to that place.

01:18:02.000 That's like a normal level of just like, yeah, parents and teenagers fight.

01:18:06.000 I'm trying to curb this super incendiary stuff that's just like, wow, we can't even speak to each other?

01:18:13.000 People can't go to Thanksgiving.

01:18:14.000 They're walking out on Christmas dinner.

01:18:17.000 This feels unprecedented to me.

01:18:20.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:18:20.000 It's a fucking bummer, you know? 0.98

01:18:23.000 I think it's bad. 0.99

01:18:24.000 I think it's bad.

01:18:25.000 And I agree with you there.

01:18:26.000 I do think, to put it and then we can maybe leave it in this perspective, right?

01:18:29.000 I think racism is a horrible thing.

01:18:31.000 I think actually believing that you are superior solely based on your race is probably one of the most poisonous ideological worldviews I can think of.

01:18:41.000 I can't say it's the worst act.

01:18:42.000 Like the worst act would be the Holocaust. 0.96

01:18:44.000 But I think as far as a worldview, racism is really, really bad, right?

01:18:50.000 And for someone to be a racist is a real problem, one of the worst things they can be.

01:18:54.000 But do you know one of the worst things you can do to actually ruin someone else's life?

01:19:00.000 Is call them a racist.

01:19:01.000 And you don't need any proof. 0.71

01:19:02.000 And that happened for eight years into the previous administration and we saw people lose their jobs and we saw people lose respect because everyone who opposed that president was simply, they're a racist.

01:19:13.000 Whether it's Janine Garofalo or Morgan Freeman, a socialist as code for the n-word.

01:19:17.000 And they were constantly painted as racist.

01:19:19.000 So now people are saying, oh, my God, we might have a racist in the cabinet or whoever it might be.

01:19:26.000 We don't necessarily need to name names.

01:19:27.000 But just as bad, just as life ruining for someone to act on racism is to simply throw out the accusation of racism.

01:19:34.000 And I think you're seeing some pendulum swinging there.

01:19:36.000 And I hope people in the entertainment industry are aware that this is a big monster that they played a large part in creating.

01:19:43.000 And hopefully now we can learn from it and say, gosh, we got really drunk at that party and we need to come back to some common basic principles.

01:19:50.000 But it doesn't seem like that's going to happen anywhere in the near future, looking at these marches and riots.

01:19:56.000 Well, you know, at the same side of the coin, I would just say, you know, I would hope that everyone who is in the Trump regime right now, now and I would hope that everyone who vehemently supports them with their heart can understand that some of these principles and the way that these messages are coming across are instilling a lot of fear in the hearts of people who are feeling marginalized and untaken care of and that there may be a reason why they're behaving this way and uh

01:20:23.000 Hopefully we can have some conversations and create some bridges and find a way.

01:20:29.000 I think you should start.

01:20:30.000 I would start a march with you, a rally with you.

01:20:32.000 Because we went to the women's march. 0.99

01:20:33.000 We went to the march yesterday when it was pussy hat economics and pissing on Donald Trump and effigy. 0.78

01:20:37.000 And yesterday when we went to the ladies' march, it was comrade and it was socialism and women have built a society and down with patriarchy. 0.94

01:20:44.000 I tell you what, we felt a little bit afraid.

01:20:46.000 We felt a little bit afraid there.

01:20:48.000 So if there could actually be one reasonable march, one reasonable rally from the left, I will join you and personally speak there and take part in helping to make that happen.

01:20:57.000 My argument is that it's going to be a game of inches.

01:20:59.000 It's going to have to come...

01:21:01.000 I'm going to get my framing right on the computer.

01:21:03.000 It's going to have to be this.

01:21:05.000 You're the filmmaker.

01:21:06.000 You know which lens sizes to go with.

01:21:09.000 By the way, for people who are watching the movie Creep, If you haven't watched it, Mess Me Up, one of my favorite thrillers in modern memory, Mark Duplass.

01:21:19.000 Yes, please.

01:21:20.000 Call me a snowflake libtard and watch Creep and see what I will do to you. 1.00

01:21:23.000 Yes, exactly.

01:21:25.000 Oh, the wolf mask image will never be out of my head.

01:21:29.000 Mr.

01:21:29.000 Duplass, thank you very much, and I would love to have you back, and I hope this conversation was productive.

01:21:34.000 Thank you for the conversation.

01:21:34.000 I really appreciate it, and you're obviously very well studied, and I appreciate that, and I appreciate it more than anything.

01:21:41.000 Nice, calm, graceful conversation with a lot of interrupting and some listening.

01:21:46.000 So, thanks to Moore.

01:21:47.000 Thank you so much, and it's a pleasure for me because, genuinely, I have been a long-time fan.

01:21:51.000 Mark Duplass, everybody, will be back with, oh, George St.

01:21:54.000 Pierre after this. 1.00

01:21:58.000 There are white niggers. 1.00

01:22:06.000 I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time. 1.00

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01:22:47.000 And now time for Dr. Ray.

01:22:54.000 Rand Paul Bitches About Everything. 1.00

01:22:56.000 Well, as it relates now to Trumpcare, as it's called, some people are trying to label it Republicancare.

01:23:04.000 And I don't know which Republicans were consulted, but...

01:23:08.000 Not May.

01:23:09.000 Looking at this bill, I think that it's worse than Obamacare because it keeps the worst elements, and some people think that scaling back is a better step than not doing anything, but those people certainly are.

01:23:25.000 Not May.

01:23:27.000 And I also think that Republicans should think very long and hard about their voting constituency, who Wanted to see a full repeal and replacement with this bill.

01:23:40.000 And I think that many of them right now are making a mistake in supporting this bill and standing with Paul Ryan on this platform, but not me. 0.98

01:23:55.000 I still like the man, but damn it, Dr. 0.99

01:23:57.000 Rand Paul bitches about everything. 1.00

01:23:59.000 Stay tuned. 0.99

01:24:00.000 All right.

01:24:20.000 That was the Street Fighter theme song, because we're our next guest.

01:24:22.000 Let me give our next guest an introduction.

01:24:24.000 The term is thrown around, greatest fighter of all time.

01:24:26.000 It's lost all meaning.

01:24:27.000 Granted, I'm biased because I'm from Montreal.

01:24:29.000 Hint, that's foreshadowing.

01:24:30.000 Let me give you this guy's pedigree.

01:24:32.000 Most wins in title bouts ever.

01:24:35.000 Twelve.

01:24:35.000 Second longest combined title streak with nine.

01:24:38.000 Second most wins in UF history, 19.

01:24:40.000 Multiple times fighter of the year.

01:24:42.000 Multiple times Canadian athlete of the year.

01:24:44.000 Comeback of the year.

01:24:45.000 Biggest box office draw.

01:24:47.000 I believe the greatest fighter to have walked God's green earth.

01:24:50.000 Georges St-Pierre, thank you for being with us, sir.

01:24:53.000 Thank you very much for having me.

01:24:56.000 Oh yeah, I know.

01:24:57.000 And I know that you're not one to take the accolades in stride.

01:25:02.000 You're very humble.

01:25:03.000 Hey, let me ask you, right out of the gate, who would you say, I know you'll never say yourself, the best fighters of all time, like if you have to give two, who would you say?

01:25:15.000 The one that has done something that I've never been done before for his time, I think the greatest of all time for me is Royce Gracie.

01:25:26.000 Okay.

01:25:27.000 Because it was so revolutionary.

01:25:28.000 Yeah.

01:25:29.000 And I remember, you know, it's funny, you probably, now you were raised, where were you raised in Montreal?

01:25:34.000 I was, you know, Rive Sud in the South Shore.

01:25:36.000 Were you, where were you?

01:25:39.000 I'm from South Shore, too.

01:25:40.000 I'm from the countryside, a place called Saint-Soudard.

01:25:44.000 It's a little town of 3,000 people.

01:25:47.000 And I had to go to the city of Montreal because of the training and study and stuff after that.

01:25:56.000 So in Montreal, it's been like maybe eight years I live in the city of Montreal now.

01:26:02.000 Okay.

01:26:02.000 Well, I asked that because I remember watching Hoist Gracie when I was a kid.

01:26:05.000 I was bullied a lot as a kid.

01:26:06.000 And my dad said, hey, there's this new UFC going on.

01:26:10.000 There's this little guy, Hoist Gracie, who's beaten all these muscle men.

01:26:13.000 And he allowed us to watch it, but it was VHS, right?

01:26:15.000 So we could fast forward the really violent stuff.

01:26:17.000 And so when we were kids, we had a community center, I think, whatever they called it.

01:26:24.000 And there was a guy down there who would make up his own martial arts, like Aikikai Jutsudo, right?

01:26:30.000 And at this point, there was no one to train with.

01:26:32.000 And so my dad said, well, you're going to learn Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu because I saw the UFC. So he took us down.

01:26:37.000 The community center had to sign up for Jiu-Jitsu.

01:26:39.000 We showed up.

01:26:40.000 And it was the same guy.

01:26:42.000 He did not know anything about jujitsu.

01:26:44.000 He tried to sell us Chinese slippers.

01:26:46.000 And I was saying, oh my gosh, it doesn't exist in Montreal.

01:26:48.000 And back then when you started, where did you learn to train?

01:26:52.000 Where did you start?

01:26:53.000 Because there was not a lot in Montreal.

01:26:58.000 They came later.

01:27:02.000 My first jiu-jitsu instructor was Wagner Fabiano.

01:27:06.000 He's from Brazil.

01:27:08.000 Then after I went with Christophe Mideau, a guy from France that learned from Hickson Gracie himself.

01:27:17.000 And also after that I learned in New York.

01:27:21.000 I kept doing it in New York City at Henzo Gracie Academy School under John Benar.

01:27:28.000 That's right.

01:27:28.000 I remember him talking about the story of you just driving out there, finding a place to sleep and getting it done.

01:27:33.000 The work ethic is incredible.

01:27:36.000 Listen, kind of touching on that, I was bullied as a kid.

01:27:38.000 You've said that being bullied as a kid really shaped you as a fighter.

01:27:42.000 So people know that.

01:27:43.000 But I want to ask, is that sort of a big reason why you've probably been the most outspoken person against PEDs in combat sports?

01:27:51.000 Do you see that as sort of as an adult, as someone who stood up against bullying as a kid, it's a way for you to do it today?

01:27:59.000 Not really.

01:28:00.000 The way I see it is, let's say we both agree on fighting each other with bare hands, no weapon. 0.99

01:28:07.000 And it would be the same thing if I would hide a knife behind my back and in the middle of the fight I will try to stab you. 0.94

01:28:16.000 For me it's the same thing. 0.95

01:28:17.000 Performance enhancing drug, it's like a weapon.

01:28:22.000 It's a biomechanism.

01:28:24.000 biological weapon.

01:28:25.000 And it should be banned, of course.

01:28:28.000 It should have been banned a long time ago.

01:28:31.000 And the system should have been in place a long time ago to have made this thing vanish out of our sport.

01:28:41.000 Because we don't play a game.

01:28:42.000 When we fight, we cannot say we play You know, you play basketball, you play hockey, you play football, but you cannot play fighting.

01:28:50.000 So every time you're going to fight, you put your life on the line, and it's very dangerous.

01:28:55.000 Well, certainly not with what you do, with what my producer, Nakejir, does.

01:28:58.000 He play fights at Adonis Bar every Saturday night, but that's an entirely different issue.

01:29:02.000 Let me ask you...

01:29:04.000 And you probably remember Adonis.

01:29:06.000 As you move forward here, do you expect to feel a difference in your opponents with the changes?

01:29:12.000 Because looking back, it's almost like you were Nostradamus.

01:29:15.000 You said, I know people.

01:29:17.000 I won't name names, but it's well known that they're on performance enhancing drugs.

01:29:20.000 And since then, you know, obviously like Anderson Silva, some huge names, people who have popped since then.

01:29:27.000 I mean, obviously, Johnny Hendricks hasn't been able to make weight, had to move up to middleweight out of necessity.

01:29:32.000 Do you expect in your fights to feel a difference in some of your opponents?

01:29:36.000 Do you think some of them under USADA could be very different?

01:29:42.000 A lot of guys...

01:29:43.000 You know, I knew a lot of guys was on it.

01:29:46.000 I had an idea of who were or who were not, but I'm not a snitch.

01:29:51.000 And I didn't want to attack an individual.

01:29:53.000 I wanted to attack the system.

01:29:55.000 Because if you attack one person, you take them out of the equation, another one will come and do the same thing.

01:30:01.000 So I wanted to change the system.

01:30:04.000 was allowing it, in a way.

01:30:07.000 That's why it was a lot of people that was cheating.

01:30:09.000 It still has a lot of people cheating nowadays, but it's much better than it was back in the day.

01:30:16.000 Yeah, I can imagine it.

01:30:17.000 And I can imagine that would be really frustrating for you back then, where people are saying, oh, fight this person, fight that person.

01:30:22.000 And if you know sometimes and you don't want to be a snitch, but you know, listen, this isn't fair.

01:30:26.000 People who aren't in the sport can't know that.

01:30:28.000 And I think especially now looking at the legacy at the UFC, considering that you're really probably one of the only high profile, long reigning champions who didn't have any run ins with that.

01:30:38.000 This is just me being a fangirl, of course, saying, you know, I would put you as best fighter of all time.

01:30:42.000 Let me ask you about this.

01:30:44.000 You had a long hiatus, and now you've had double knee surgeries.

01:30:47.000 I've had knee surgery myself.

01:30:50.000 My knee's not the same, but I had other problems with my kneecap.

01:30:54.000 Do you think that you are better than you were before?

01:30:57.000 Not only technically, because you've had time, but athletically.

01:30:59.000 Do you feel back 100% as you come back to fight?

01:31:03.000 No, I do feel physically better than ever.

01:31:10.000 My knees are 100%.

01:31:12.000 I had the best surgeon in the world that did the surgery on me.

01:31:18.000 I did the best rehab as possible.

01:31:22.000 So I really put all on my side.

01:31:25.000 You know, I didn't want to have any issues of coming back and I wanted to be back 100%.

01:31:31.000 Even now, I feel like Yeah, for sure.

01:31:47.000 And where did you do that?

01:31:48.000 Did you do that in the States or did you do it in Montreal?

01:31:52.000 I did my surgery in the United States by Dr.

01:31:56.000 Ella Trash in Los Angeles, Carlin& Job Hospital, and I did my rehab there too, but I gained a lot of knowledge.

01:32:06.000 I read a lot of books too, so I've learned.

01:32:09.000 When I was doing it, I was learning at the same time, and now I can take that knowledge and keep it for myself and help the guys that need it, also in Montreal.

01:32:19.000 Yeah.

01:32:20.000 Well, I'm sure that's a big help because obviously for the reasons, you know, you went to Los Angeles, the medical innovations tend to be at the cutting edge in the States and some Canadian athletes, depending where they are in the country, you know, don't have access to that.

01:32:31.000 So at least bringing the knowledge back with you, I mean, that's got to be a huge help to your team at TriStar, I'd imagine.

01:32:38.000 Yeah, knowledge is very important.

01:32:40.000 It's one of the things in this game that makes the difference between a win and a loss.

01:32:47.000 It's a little bit like warfare, for example.

01:32:51.000 Genghis Khan has dominated the world because of a bone and arrow and horses. 0.96

01:32:56.000 He had knowledge at the time that nobody has.

01:33:00.000 The Romans, same thing. 0.74

01:33:02.000 The United States Second World War, the atomic bomb.

01:33:06.000 So knowledge, like in warfare, same thing in fighting.

01:33:10.000 Royce Gracie has dominated the game at this time because he had knowledge of the ground fighting.

01:33:15.000 Nobody knew what was ground fighting.

01:33:16.000 Everybody thought it was like in the movies, standing up and punching each other.

01:33:20.000 Nobody knew what was going on.

01:33:23.000 I remember the The people that were describing the fight, they didn't even know themselves what was going on.

01:33:33.000 He's grabbing his head with his leg and going, oh, wait a second, he's stopping.

01:33:37.000 People were like, nobody knew, nobody knew because he had a weapon that nobody...

01:33:41.000 We had knowledge that nobody had at the time, and that's why it was so successful.

01:33:45.000 So it's all about knowledge.

01:33:47.000 In the game of the art of war, it's about knowledge.

01:33:52.000 The person who has the most knowledge is the one who's going to win.

01:33:57.000 Fighting is not about who's got the biggest balls, who's talking, making the more noise.

01:34:01.000 That's what the promotion is based on.

01:34:03.000 It's about the knowledge, a lot of it.

01:34:05.000 Well, you're giving hope to my producer here, Jared. 1.00

01:34:07.000 But what if someone has no balls and he's also stupid like Jared? 1.00

01:34:11.000 Is he just out of luck? 1.00

01:34:13.000 Well, he's pretty...

01:34:16.000 Bonne chance, Jared!

01:34:18.000 I don't know.

01:34:21.000 He'll just have to go crazy. 0.96

01:34:22.000 Jared, just take some PCP and go nuts.

01:34:25.000 I saw some guy do that once on Reel TV. Hey, Sid, you're talking about knowledge.

01:34:29.000 Let me ask you this, George.

01:34:31.000 And I know you can't reveal it.

01:34:33.000 You're a very cerebral fighter.

01:34:34.000 And I've always said, you know, a lot of people, you know, listen, they'll chalk it up and say, well, George St.

01:34:38.000 Pierre is this freak athlete.

01:34:39.000 I've never seen an athlete like him.

01:34:40.000 And you're a very athletic guy.

01:34:42.000 But what's kept you at the top for so long, it's not chance, I believe, is your cerebral approach to fighting.

01:34:47.000 So have you already created, you know, this is the biggest comeback, really, in modern sports history that I can think of.

01:34:53.000 Do you already have a game planned in mind for Michael Bisping?

01:34:58.000 Yeah, he's going to have the size advantage on me.

01:35:02.000 Sure.

01:35:03.000 The size, the height, inertia, everything that comes with size and the advantage, everything that comes with that, he's going to have the physical aspect of the advantage of it.

01:35:18.000 But I do believe I'm more athletic.

01:35:19.000 I believe I'm much faster than he is.

01:35:22.000 I believe I have a better fighting IQ than him.

01:35:26.000 And I got more tools.

01:35:28.000 And that's why I'm going to win that fight. 0.96

01:35:30.000 And he's a drunk.

01:35:32.000 So there's that.

01:35:34.000 Hopefully he's not going to drink before the fight.

01:35:41.000 It's okay.

01:35:42.000 You know you drink whenever you want to drink.

01:35:45.000 The thing that bothered me is he started insulting me and he came at the press conference late and he smelled alcohol when I made the face up with him.

01:35:55.000 That's what was bothering me.

01:35:56.000 I don't care if you drink.

01:35:57.000 I drink too sometimes.

01:35:58.000 I enjoy my life in Vegas.

01:36:01.000 But you show up on time, you show up on time.

01:36:03.000 You don't make weight on the bus.

01:36:05.000 You're the fans for that.

01:36:06.000 Sure.

01:36:08.000 He's not that professional, you know?

01:36:09.000 Right, and he's also perpetuating a negative English stereotype.

01:36:13.000 It would be like he shows up drunk and you show up with poutine and a mullet, you know?

01:36:17.000 You have to have better respect for your country.

01:36:19.000 That's what I should have done, poutine and a mullet. 0.98

01:36:22.000 Exactly, show up next time. 0.79

01:36:24.000 Yeah, we're just doing stereotypes, you drunken Englishman.

01:36:27.000 Listen, we don't want to keep you too long.

01:36:29.000 Can I ask you, ma mère, she has a question for you in French.

01:36:33.000 Can you take one question?

01:36:34.000 She's a super fan.

01:36:35.000 Okay, ma.

01:36:37.000 Hello George!

01:36:38.000 I'm probably one of your biggest fans.

01:36:42.000 I love it!

01:36:43.000 Hey man, close to the microphone!

01:36:47.000 She's freaking... 0.92

01:36:48.000 She's nervous for people watching.

01:36:50.000 Get up close to the microphone.

01:36:51.000 Okay.

01:36:52.000 So, j'ai regardé un reportage qu'ils ont fait sur toi, puis ta pauvre mère était bien insultée à cause de son sous-sol, que quelqu'un lui a dit qu'il avait bien de la poussière, puis elle a dit, c'est pas de ma faute, c'est parce qu'ils l'ont pas fini.

01:37:09.000 Fait que je voulais savoir s'ils ont fini le sous-sol pour ta mère.

01:37:14.000 No, they're not finished.

01:37:16.000 They're not finished, because we keep it like a game for my kids.

01:37:23.000 We don't know yet.

01:37:25.000 The kids will grow up one day.

01:37:27.000 So if we decide to put some rooms or other installations, we'll have to change it in some years.

01:37:34.000 That's why we keep it like this, because there's a bunch of bags, there's toys for children.

01:37:40.000 So if we decide to change it, it'll take the money lost.

01:37:43.000 It's going to be… I asked about the basement.

01:37:48.000 For people who don't know, this is such a French-Canadian thing.

01:37:51.000 George knows this.

01:37:52.000 Like, French-Canadians, they keep their houses so clean.

01:37:55.000 Jared, you know that with my mom.

01:37:56.000 She's like, she can't handle it.

01:37:58.000 And George St.

01:37:59.000 Pierce's mom was so mad in the special that they showed a basement which was dusty, so my mom asked if it was Yeah, they will keep it for the kids because it's like a playground for the kids.

01:38:14.000 But if we finish it and we make rooms and walls and everything, right now it's going to be useless because we want it to be for the kids.

01:38:26.000 For my sister's kids, but maybe in a few years when they grow up, I guess my parents will be willing to change.

01:38:36.000 I even offered her to pay for the renovation and everything.

01:38:39.000 And she convinced me that right now it's a bad idea.

01:38:43.000 Just because she doesn't want to have to clean it up again, because French Canadians clean up everything. 1.00

01:38:46.000 As you're finished eating, they clean up the place.

01:38:50.000 She was very insulted that they say it was a dusty basement, but you know, it is my mom.

01:38:57.000 She wanted everything to be looking good on camera and this.

01:39:00.000 That's it.

01:39:01.000 My mom, we were sitting there watching the special, and my mom's like, ah, ah.

01:39:04.000 She's like, poor woman. 1.00

01:39:05.000 I'm like, Mom, are you not watching the greatest fighter of all time?

01:39:07.000 The countdown is about him fighting.

01:39:09.000 And she wouldn't stop about the dust in the basement and how bad she felt.

01:39:12.000 About the dust in the basement, not the fighter.

01:39:15.000 No, no, no.

01:39:16.000 But then she watched the fight because she's like, I want to watch him.

01:39:18.000 Is his mother care about the dust in the basement?

01:39:21.000 I'm going to watch to support him.

01:39:23.000 So you never know how you'll get a new fan.

01:39:27.000 That's funny.

01:39:28.000 All right.

01:39:28.000 Well, listen, George St.

01:39:29.000 Pierre, we are rooting for you.

01:39:30.000 Anytime you want to come back, we'd love to get you on Skype here and get your biggest fan, Jean-Guy Tremblay, next time.

01:39:36.000 We talked about that off air.

01:39:38.000 And bring him back on with you.

01:39:39.000 Anytime you have anything to promote, you know, there are a lot of people out here who maybe, this is a different audience, don't necessarily follow MMA, but we're always trying to educate them.

01:39:48.000 And a lot of people.

01:39:49.000 And I think you're going to see a lot of people supporting you in this comeback.

01:39:53.000 Everyone in this room included.

01:39:54.000 We really appreciate it, man.

01:39:56.000 Thank you very much.

01:39:57.000 All right.

01:39:58.000 Thanks, man.

01:39:58.000 That was Jacques St-Pierre, and we will wrap up this show right after the break.

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01:41:25.000 We don't do a lot of live shows unless there is tons of security anymore.

01:41:28.000 But Naki, Jared, and I will actually be co-hosting the USCCA Second Amendment and their annual Second Amendment awards.

01:41:35.000 Really excited about this.

01:41:36.000 This is going to be in Fort Worth, April 8th.

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01:45:41.000 productive discussion very much appreciate it hey we didn't want to tease this before But we are going to be at South by Southwest.

01:45:48.000 Yes!

01:45:49.000 Broadcasting from South by Southwest on Monday.

01:45:51.000 We'll be doing some work there.

01:45:53.000 We won't tell you exactly what work, but broadcasting live from South by Southwest on Monday.

01:45:57.000 And big week of shows next week.

01:46:00.000 Need to top George St.

01:46:01.000 Pierre.

01:46:02.000 That's tough.

01:46:03.000 We'll get him on Skype next time with Jean-Guy.

01:46:05.000 It'll be good.

01:46:06.000 I'll pay to see that.

01:46:08.000 You know, Jared was bringing this up during the break.

01:46:10.000 And we'll get some comments here on Twitter.

01:46:12.000 You know, I'm looking through my Twitter feed where people, some people are upset that when you're talking with someone like a Mark Duplass where he asked about the morality comparison between Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

01:46:22.000 I don't feel any problem with conceding ground when it's correct.

01:46:25.000 When, you know what, Barack Obama we probably think was a better husband.

01:46:30.000 Didn't, you know, he didn't have divorce after divorce after divorce and settled out of court.

01:46:34.000 Seems to be a good father to his kids.

01:46:36.000 There's nothing, and what's funny is a lot of people often say, Krotter's an ideologue.

01:46:40.000 I'm just honest about how I see the world.

01:46:42.000 I'm honest about the lens through which I see the world.

01:46:44.000 But I also think there's a value to being truthful.

01:46:49.000 It doesn't serve anybody, any purpose, if I lie. 0.99

01:46:52.000 And no, no, Barack Obama sucks at everything. 0.99

01:46:54.000 Even being a father? 1.00

01:46:55.000 Yeah, he's terrible.

01:46:56.000 What about a husband? 0.99

01:46:56.000 Oh, he's clearly objectively terrible. 0.99

01:46:58.000 What about Donald Trump?

01:46:59.000 He's the best when it comes to divorce proceedings.

01:47:02.000 Now, in saying that, I'm not saying that Donald Trump is inherently, we know, 100% a bad husband or a bad father.

01:47:09.000 I don't think that's the case.

01:47:10.000 But I do think that we can say, you know what, yeah, there are some qualities that Barack Obama brought to the table as president.

01:47:16.000 Here are some of his positive traits.

01:47:18.000 And I think that's important for people to remember.

01:47:20.000 I think we're seeing more of this now. 0.94

01:47:21.000 There was kind of the alt-right sort of as the election happened and everyone who didn't 100% support Donald Trump was, you know, cuck.

01:47:27.000 And we've defended him where we thought he was right and criticized him where we thought it was fair.

01:47:31.000 And we still continue to do that, certainly with this health care bill.

01:47:34.000 Most people seem to agree it's not a great bill.

01:47:38.000 And I don't necessarily know that it's Trump care, that it's Ryan care.

01:47:41.000 I'm not a huge fan of Paul Ryan, so I think he plays a huge role in that.

01:47:45.000 I mean, talk about an empty suit.

01:47:47.000 He's not even an empty suit. 1.00

01:47:48.000 I just picture, like, right below his neck, a vagina. 1.00

01:47:54.000 Like, all those things they talk to. 1.00

01:47:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:47:57.000 He's holding that metal rod to it.

01:48:00.000 My job is to create a plan with compromise.

01:48:05.000 Oh, gosh.

01:48:07.000 So, I'm not a huge fan of Paul Ryan.

01:48:10.000 I do think that when you get into these conversations, and it was a long conversation, and I hope that Mark Duplass comes back, and I hope you also notice that on the show we sort of match intensity.

01:48:17.000 If someone comes on and is very respectful and wants to have a conversation, we always end up having a conversation.

01:48:22.000 You saw that with Sally Cohn.

01:48:23.000 You saw that today.

01:48:24.000 And then if someone comes on the program and wants to be aggressive, someone like a Michael Ian Black, we've got to check that.

01:48:30.000 We've got to keep it in check.

01:48:31.000 I want to keep it fair, but it still is...

01:48:34.000 And we want to respect our audience.

01:48:36.000 But it is important to not be so far along the trail cheerleading for a person or for a party letter next to somebody's name that you're not willing to concede truth.

01:48:46.000 And I know some people who disagree with me on some issues will say, well, you're doing that with, I don't know, insert whatever here, climate, flying spaghetti monster.

01:48:53.000 No, no, listen, I've come to those conclusions myself.

01:48:56.000 I've developed an opinion.

01:48:57.000 I believe those things.

01:48:59.000 But I'm never going to refuse to concede territory that I know to be true simply because I know there could be negative political ramifications with our base or with the red meat community. 1.00

01:49:12.000 And you see that a lot with conservatives.

01:49:13.000 We've talked about this.

01:49:14.000 Some people out there, some commentators who've sort of risen to fame with social media notoriety, and it just becomes a one-note. 1.00

01:49:21.000 They go, I know, if I yell about Barack Obama this way, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, you suck! 1.00

01:49:27.000 Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, you're Racist! 1.00

01:49:30.000 You'll get a thousand likes in a minute, and you'll get a million views on Facebook. 0.91

01:49:34.000 And it's tempting to do that.

01:49:35.000 It is tempting to do that because in the age of immediate clicks and immediate gratification, it's really easy to go that route.

01:49:41.000 And I think if you look at the entirety of our catalog of work, and we have shows like this where we'll have a 40-minute conversation with Mark Duplass.

01:49:48.000 And then, yes, yesterday we went to a mall and we did a cringe-worthy gay man, straight man version of Horse. 0.99

01:49:54.000 And yes, we will go undercover as transgenders to infiltrate a liberal community, and then we will go and do a video on a special needs group, creating a pro-life message.

01:50:03.000 We really do just try to experiment, and sometimes you won't like it, sometimes you will like it, but we appreciate that you come on this journey with us, and we certainly experiment a lot more behind the paywall, lotofcredit.com slash mugclub, for those who want to be interested and support this kind of...

01:50:17.000 More innovative content, but I do think it's important to note if there's no other takeaway, and you saw this with Mark Duplass, I do think that was a conversation, certainly from my end, of trying to actually get to the truth.

01:50:28.000 And you don't necessarily need to be empathetic to someone's position, but you do need to try and get to the truth of why they've arrived there.

01:50:39.000 And you look like you're going to say that.

01:50:40.000 Yeah, I think as a conservative, it's important to remember that you don't have to be afraid of truth because we seek truth.

01:50:47.000 You don't have to look at the world as we wish it were or be married or enslaved that way.

01:50:53.000 It's okay as a conservative to be enslaved to truth, not to a person.

01:50:56.000 And that's okay because we're not afraid of truth.

01:50:58.000 Right.

01:50:59.000 And that's when people say principles before party.

01:51:01.000 Well, principles, if principles are rooted correctly, should be rooted in truth.

01:51:06.000 Like the Constitution.

01:51:07.000 Now, principles can be flawed, and people can be even more flawed.

01:51:10.000 But you have this idea of truth, right?

01:51:12.000 And now it's this catchphrase.

01:51:13.000 Oh, you live your truth, girl.

01:51:15.000 You've heard that, live your truth.

01:51:17.000 No, there is no live your truth.

01:51:18.000 There's the truth.

01:51:19.000 Are you living in the truth?

01:51:21.000 Now, sometimes we can be wrong, and we've done that.

01:51:24.000 We've had to pull back stories if we've run, I think, two that come to mind if we're wrong or something is not truthful.

01:51:29.000 But there is the truth.

01:51:30.000 Now, see, a very different starting off point.

01:51:32.000 There's the truth.

01:51:34.000 And live your truth.

01:51:35.000 What's that?

01:51:36.000 Here's the truth.

01:51:37.000 Here's your truth, your truth, your truth, your truth, your truth, your truth.

01:51:40.000 Now you have a million different trees, let alone the branches.

01:51:43.000 There's the truth, and then you see the branches that shoot off of that.

01:51:47.000 Now, maybe you can say, okay, here's the truth.

01:51:49.000 Someone there believes that we should be funding abortion overseas.

01:51:52.000 You don't have to be empathetic and say, you know what, I can empathize with that.

01:51:55.000 You don't.

01:51:56.000 But you do need to understand the truth to try and get to, where are they on that branch or is that just a weed?

01:52:03.000 Where do they arrive there?

01:52:05.000 You don't have to empathize.

01:52:06.000 You don't have to sympathize with the position or certainly the reasoning, but you need to try and understand why they've come to that conclusion.

01:52:13.000 And that's what makes it so much easier when you have these conversations, if you understand why they think the way that they do, which means you have to understand ideologies.

01:52:20.000 This whole, I just go by issue by issue.

01:52:23.000 I have no ideology.

01:52:24.000 Well, then you need to understand why people do have ideologies and you need to understand what those ideologies are, because that's how you understand when people get so far off the beam of truth, they believe something that is completely unjustifiable.

01:52:35.000 You need to be able to piece out the information that you're delivered and at least try and distill it to some form of truth.

01:52:43.000 Now, that means that you have to have the ability to concede something that's truthful, even if you don't like hearing it.

01:52:50.000 And by the way, conceding something truthful that you don't like hearing, it doesn't necessarily mean that your point is untrue.

01:52:54.000 For example, if they say our public school system is broken, I agree.

01:53:01.000 That doesn't completely negate my point of school choice, charter schools, school vouchers.

01:53:06.000 So if you are so set in your way where you believe liberals or libtards as Mark Duplass, I don't think we've ever used that word on this show. 0.99

01:53:13.000 And I have a standing order of no one to write it on the website.

01:53:16.000 If they have, listen, that doesn't come from me and I apologize, but I know Courtney doesn't in case he doesn't.

01:53:20.000 Libtard is lazy, it's poor comedy. 1.00

01:53:23.000 But we don't use that terminology, libtard.

01:53:26.000 It doesn't matter how far you think they are.

01:53:28.000 If you are able to concede, okay, you know what, maybe this is true, guess what?

01:53:32.000 It makes what you deliver that much more poignant.

01:53:35.000 And Owen Benjamin, sometimes people have come on the show, I just discussed this because sometimes people say, well, how do you learn to talk with these people?

01:53:41.000 How do you learn to change minds?

01:53:42.000 How do you debate?

01:53:43.000 I If you watch it, it really wasn't a debate.

01:53:46.000 And I don't go into it with a mindset of scoring points and a couple of sound bites for cable news or for a Facebook feed.

01:53:51.000 That's why we'll occasionally do an interview that's 40 minutes.

01:53:54.000 It breaks every rule as to what's good for TV, to have a conversation with a give and take and trying to understand each other.

01:54:00.000 But in the long run, sometimes that's a whole lot more productive, especially if you're going out and I see a lot of young kids.

01:54:06.000 In college, they're watching these videos, they're listening to these speeches, whether it's me, whether it's Milo, whoever it is, and they like the controversy, and we do.

01:54:14.000 We use controversy, but in your day-to-day life, being able to distill the truth, being able to concede territory, being able to convince people.

01:54:24.000 And living in the truth, not your truth, find the truth and branch out from there.

01:54:29.000 You'll have some productive discussions.

01:54:30.000 And I think it's helped us a whole lot.

01:54:32.000 And it's allowed us to have people on the show who would never set foot.

01:54:36.000 Never.

01:54:37.000 On any other conservative program.

01:54:38.000 You're not seeing Mark Duplass on Fox News or AM Radio anytime soon.

01:54:41.000 But I hope we'll have him back.

01:54:42.000 And I hope that the people out there who listen to this program...

01:54:45.000 You don't have to agree with us.

01:54:46.000 You don't even have to like us.

01:54:48.000 But just listen.

01:54:49.000 And we'll listen back.

01:54:50.000 Well, it's not a two-way radio, but...

01:54:52.000 You get my point.

Louder with Crowder - March 10, 2017

#134 TRUMP KEEPS WINNING! Georges St-Pierre and Mark Duplass | Louder With Crowder

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