This week on The Daily Show, we cover the latest in the London terror attacks, including the revelation that Khalid Masoud Massoud is the prime suspect in the attack. We also hear from comedian Jim Norton, Sargon of a Cat, and former mayor Rudy Giuliani.
00:03:04.000If you haven't been watching The Daily Show, those out there who are not Mug Club members, we've obviously covered news of the day every single day.
00:03:11.000But before we get to that, I swear to you, this is not a sketch.
00:05:04.000And the scary fact, just like Tommy Robinson was saying, and he was laughed out of the street when he was saying, I guarantee you this person will be an Islamist, and I guarantee you he will already have been either investigated or surveilled or been on watch for terrorism.
00:05:17.000Well, this guy's already been linked to violent extremism.
00:07:34.000I'm not saying this was entirely necessary, but even when you look at the original signers of our documents in the United States, they were worried about them being Catholic.
00:07:40.000Because of the political clout of the Vatican.
00:07:43.000And they didn't want anyone who had any allegiance higher to any state, any country above the United States of America.
00:07:50.000It was, you come here, you can bring some of your culture, that's fine, but you're American.
00:07:59.000And I get this person was British-born, but the idea of multiculturalism, it divides.
00:08:03.000And when you have a secularist multiculturalist vacuum in the UK, it gets filled by something.
00:08:08.000We'll talk about this with Sargon of Akkad.
00:08:10.000You know, Jordan Peterson talked about this.
00:08:12.000Whether you think it's a sociological, I guess, a human behavioral pattern to process information, you think it's the flying spaghetti monster...
00:08:21.000All societies have somehow looked to a higher power or believed in some form of religion.
00:08:26.000There's been some determining form of religion to society.
00:08:29.000You can just say it's a coping mechanism.
00:08:38.000A lack of belief does not fill that void.
00:08:43.000If you're in a society that's based on a lack of belief, on apathy, Islam will fill it.
00:08:50.000That's what they're looking to do right now.
00:08:53.000And that's why it's so disconcerting when, you know, this came up from the London mayor, Sadiq Khan, so maybe you can guess where he's coming from.
00:08:59.000It surfaced because of one of Donald Trump's sons.
00:09:03.000He said this, he had this to say, he said, Donald Trump and those around him think that Western liberal values are incompatible with mainstream Islam.
00:09:41.000That was the language in the cultures was one of the things that God put, you know, a parable in history, put down on people to separate them, to make them disperse, to separate people.
00:10:28.000But the radicalization that occurs in Europe...
00:10:31.000It is because of a secularist void and multiculturalism, which effectively is almost a secular set of worldviews, multiculturalism, certainly as it's enforced in Europe.
00:10:40.000The idea of tolerance to be the virtue above all other virtues.
00:10:44.000So it's important to recognize that even if they were born, and by the way, did you see all the leftists, they were mad, like, why did you say British born?
00:11:14.000And by the way, contrast what the London mayor had to say with people like George Bush or Rudy Giuliani right after 9-11, you know, the terrorist attack on American soil.
00:11:23.000I think you contrast that quote with Giuliani, and you can see a different approach.
00:11:28.000These are extraordinarily strong, strong people.
00:11:31.000I mean, Americans have been tested now, and I think the response to the test is going to be a very unified country and a response that makes sure that we prevail.
00:11:43.000The response was from a place of strength and unity.
00:11:46.000Okay, we're not going to tolerate this.
00:11:49.000We don't play no games, George Bush and Giuliani said, as opposed to right away the first response from people in Europe is, hashtag not all Muslims, come on, we want to be...
00:11:58.000No, I don't want to say all Europeans.
00:12:15.000I know it's silly, and I make fun of Europe because, you know, soccer and man buns, and you're a little bit effeminate, but our heart goes out to our European brethren.
00:12:23.000But Giuliani, from a place of strength and unity, and you can't do that with multiculturalism.
00:12:30.000You know, you can fake it, hands-holding, we are the world, but it doesn't really mean anything.
00:13:13.000And I think a fundamental contrasting difference between the way the United States handled terrorist activity and what you see in Europe, in London specifically, is that the mayor, as you mentioned, Is a giant pussy.
00:13:32.000Okay, I don't think we were ready for that here on this show.
00:15:04.000By the way, it was timed perfectly because they were getting their asses handed to them by Neil Gorsuch and then Devin Nunes came out and it wasn't necessarily the best information for them.
00:15:31.000As a matter of fact, I think there's a good possibility and I will be first in line to hope that those people get fired and tried if they are buddies with Putin.
00:19:41.000She's been in the news talking about it, and sure as night follows day, she now has to fight off the cannibal social justice warriors who are giving her crap for losing weight, saying that she wasn't proud of her previous body, that now it's a bad example.
00:20:17.000Everyone that's ever gone on a diet knows that losing 5, 10, 15 pounds isn't the thing that sends you barreling toward a stronger sense of self.
00:20:24.000Well, now she seems to have a stronger sense of self.
00:21:24.000There's study after study after study that exercise alone, let alone being healthier and at a healthier weight, makes you happier, does release endorphins, makes neurotransmission more efficient.
00:21:35.000Neurotransmitters like dopamine, serotonin, norepinephrine, and I know this stuff really well because I've been to doctors regarding this with thyroid issues, with mental health issues.
00:22:23.000Society, doctors, people who disagree with you, they express to you ideas that will better your life, that will verifiably, undeniably improve your life.
00:22:32.000And they say it because they want good things for you, just like a parent.
00:22:37.000But leftists just refuse to hear it scream up and down no, simply because they want to go against what you're telling them, even though it is entirely factually accurate.
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00:28:20.000I can hear the difference between what you sound much more like someone from London because I had a friend from Manchester and that's a very different sound.
00:29:18.000The problem was there was a photograph circulating around social media of the terrorist suspect who had been shot and was laying on the ground and being treated.
00:29:27.000And he looked very similar to an established Islamic hate preacher in the UK who is currently in jail.
00:29:34.000For being an Islamic hate preacher and encouraging people to join ISIS and all this sort of thing.
00:29:39.000And so it was wildly irresponsible of the media to jump to this conclusion.
00:29:44.000It was established outlets like Channel 4, which is, in Britain, that's a big channel.
00:30:03.000I retweeted it myself, because I saw it from Channel 4 and thought, well, they will have fact-checked this, and that's what you get for having faith in the media.
00:30:11.000Well, most disturbing is apparently you Englishmen think all Islamic hate preachers look alike, which I think is...
00:30:36.000We had a guy named Eric Soderstrom, hat tip to him, looking up.
00:30:39.000Court documents where this guy was up for parole January 7th.
00:30:44.000I guess typically if you have a sentence that's over three years or under three years, you serve half in the UK because your prisons are overcrowded, underfunded, they were talking about.
00:30:52.000So we're going back and forth and looking at this, and we saw none of it from your news sources.
00:30:55.000I'm going, why am I doing this legwork?
00:30:59.000Honestly, I don't know whether it's just the effect of social media or what, because the speed at which the information comes out and has to be verified is remarkably quick.
00:31:08.000And, I mean, in their defense, the man looked exactly the same as this hate preacher.
00:32:48.000He must be like the Alex Jones of the Muslim world.
00:32:53.000That man's a saint, you watch your mouth.
00:32:55.000I'm not saying there isn't a special place in my heart for Alex Jones, because especially after crashing the Young Turks and making Cenk...
00:34:17.000But yeah, like we were saying with Anjim Chowdhury, I mean, you know, we had him on because, like you said, there still are a lot of people, A, who are asking to have him on, and like you said, still tens of millions of people who believe just that.
00:34:27.000It's a lot more worrying than the Westboro Baptists.
00:34:29.000There are a lot of people who believe the sort of...
00:34:32.000Salafist sort of narrative that he always espouses.
00:34:34.000But these people aren't generally in the West.
00:34:38.000And when they come to the West, they set up the extremist mosques, basically.
00:34:42.000Well, you have a lot of them, though, in the UK. I mean, you have 50,000 downloads of the ISIS training manual.
00:35:30.000I'm not a big fan of collective punishments, obviously.
00:35:33.000It's one of the reasons I oppose the regressive left.
00:35:37.000There are plenty of stages along the path that you end up becoming a radical terrorist that you can be talked down from at that point.
00:35:51.000The problem is when you have these sort of I don't want to call them enclaves, but I can't think of a better word, where you don't really have much interaction with the native British culture outside of them.
00:36:09.000I do think multiculturalism, and we were talking about this last time, I would wonder if your opinion has changed.
00:36:13.000It doesn't sound like it has, but we were talking about this earlier in the program, that secularism, as you said, you're like, eh, it's much more secular here in Europe, creates a vacuum, and Islam is looking to fill it, and they're much more successful filling a vacuum there than you see in the United States of America right now.
00:36:28.000And that's why you see much more radicalization in Europe.
00:36:36.000We're at a real kind of crossroads here where it seems like a lot of people are concerned and there's, on the one hand, you want to be tolerant.
00:36:43.000On the other hand, you have to be realistic about the threat that you're facing.
00:36:46.000But I know, Gerald, you were about to say something.
00:36:48.000Sorry, Gerald here is, I don't know if we call him a philosopher, a theologian.
00:36:52.000He's on the other side of the coin, but he knows a lot about Islam.
00:37:23.000I was going to say, I mean, I definitely understand your point.
00:37:26.000I think with Islam, you have a religion, though.
00:37:28.000If you go back to the books, and we've talked about this in a number of videos that we've done.
00:37:31.000If you go back to the book and the founder and look at what they tell you to do, it doesn't surprise me that there are a large number of Muslims that have been radicalized.
00:37:40.000And even larger circle outside of that is people who are okay with that number being radicalized.
00:37:44.000They won't necessarily do things themselves.
00:37:49.000Let's say that Christians infiltrated government.
00:37:51.000And Muslims infiltrated government, right, in Islam.
00:37:54.000Which one would actually have a good or bad effect?
00:37:57.000I think we've seen in some countries where they're controlled by Islamic governments what is going on over there, right?
00:38:02.000The Sharia law and things like that that are happening.
00:38:04.000I don't know that there's a bad example that you can use, maybe historically a little bit, but not currently, of Christians being in government that are kind of oppressing their citizens.
00:38:13.000To Sargon's point, though, it's also...
00:38:15.000I'm not sure the framing of that's too accurate.
00:38:51.000So they can, you know, want what they want because they're never going to get it.
00:38:55.000The problem is when they implement it in their own communities and it ends up violating the rights of women, British citizens who are also female.
00:39:02.000And that's something the government has been inquiring into.
00:39:05.000Although I haven't followed it up, so I don't know exactly what the inquiry found.
00:39:08.000But undoubtedly there are going to be women in those communities who are having their rights violated.
00:39:33.000As an aside, you were talking about the name Sargon.
00:39:36.000Yeah, no, look, I mean, you seem like the kind of guy, honestly, that you're looking for truth, and I've looked at a lot of your stuff, and I really appreciate that, right?
00:39:43.000I have differing opinions, obviously, but I respect people that have different views.
00:39:47.000And so I just thought it was really interesting, the name that you chose.
00:39:51.000Like, I knew Akkad, and I knew kind of the Sumerian city-state part of that.
00:39:54.000For some reason, I remembered that from high school, about Kish, Eric, and Ur fighting each other, then Akkad going and attacking them and kind of taking...
00:40:03.000But I think a lot of the conversations that people like you and I would have end up becoming gotcha moments, where I either know more than you about one particular subject, or you know one particular subject, and it's not really beneficial.
00:40:14.000I think what C.S. Lewis did actually was really interesting, is that they had a meeting every week.
00:40:20.000They would have a point of view from, say, a Christian theologian, and then they would have a differing point of view from somebody else.
00:41:38.000Because the Sargon legend is the Moses legend, just far earlier.
00:41:43.000And so Baby washes up on the banks of the Euphrates in a reed basket covered in bitumen and is raised by a gardener and ends up becoming the king and ends up conquering this giant empire.
00:41:54.000It's quite a rags-to-riches story, really, isn't it?
00:42:22.000This comes from, like, Gerald, who's been on the show before, and I remember we talked about it, and he was just like, I really like this Sargon.
00:42:27.000I know he's an atheist, but he seems like the kind of guy I could talk about.
00:42:35.000I'd come up with some random fact that maybe somebody hadn't heard of, and he'd come up with some random fact, and that would be what most people do.
00:42:41.000And nobody would really learn anything, and we'd just try to make ourselves look better.
00:42:44.000But I am a soccer fan, and I know you call it football.
00:42:48.000Do you have a particular club that's your favorite?
00:43:01.000You live in the UK. You were like Hillary Clinton trying to cater to blacks with hot sauce only with a European in soccer and you just got checked.
00:43:08.000That's BS. Basically, one thing is you're being really racist right now.
00:45:01.000If you compare him versus Giuliani, sort of speaking from a point of – and to go back to that point, I think multiculturalism.
00:45:08.000Which is a European value, it's not an American value, we're a melting pot, a societal melting pot, allows for this kind of radicalism to happen at that rate.
00:45:15.000And so it seems when you look at the way he's handling this, it's from the angle of, oh, hold on, hold on, multiculturalism, hashtag not all Muslims, whereas in the United States after 9-11 we're like, we're going to find these bastards and we're going to unify against a common enemy.
00:45:29.000Yeah, the problem is we're very politically correct over here.
00:45:56.000He speaks for two minutes and says nothing.
00:45:59.000You know, everyone then moves on with their day.
00:46:02.000I do feel kind of sorry for him because, like, with the statement from last September where he said that it's just part and parcel of being in a big city, I mean, to a degree that's true, but it's really...
00:46:14.000it's almost like taking the attacks out of context when he says it.
00:46:18.000Because it's like, yes, okay, but these things weren't acts of God.
00:46:30.000So even if you want to be like, well, this is just normality now, it's like, that's great.
00:46:36.000But they don't seem to realize that there are lots of people outside of their little bubble.
00:46:42.000They're sort of like what you would consider like coastal elites, the sort of media elites, left-wing intelligentsia.
00:46:50.000I mean, I think you would have thought that Trump and Brexit would have woken them up to the fact that there are actually millions of people outside of their frame of reference that don't agree with anything they're saying.
00:47:08.000Because the fear of Trump and Brexit had, I think, really pushed it to the fore that they know that they're just desperately sitting on top of a simmering pot that's about to explode with people going, look, it's the fucking Muslims.
00:47:22.000And it's not that, like, technically they're not wrong, but they're not exactly going to be the sort of people you want in control of any kind of transition in the future.
00:47:32.000And to make sure that these people get their fears alleviated, and they deserve to, you know, they've done nothing wrong.
00:47:39.000And without having something terrible happen, that means the people who are in the sort of center and the center left need to accept that you can't just call people racist to make these fears go away and that you have to actually address the f***ing issues.
00:47:53.000You know, they have to they actually have to stop going.
00:47:56.000But that's a racist thing to say and just.
00:48:40.000That is the stat that is a significant majority and the most shocking that the amount of Muslims globally who believe in death for apostasy, even in the Western side, it is a majority and it's very scary.
00:49:17.000When that jizya tax goes away, and it does in their eschatological views, it goes away when the Mahdi comes and Jesus is his second in command.
00:50:03.000And that belief actually shapes their behavior today.
00:50:06.000So when people are in apocalyptic Islam, they believe most of the Iranians that you think are radicalized...
00:50:12.000Follow this kind of Islam where they believe they have to do certain acts to bring about the end of the world.
00:50:34.000Right, and so what you're saying then is you think that there are a lot of the radical Muslims who, you know, not just the Islamists we're talking about, because they're the people who want Sharia law, they want Islamic control of countries and people's personal lives and whatnot.
00:50:48.000You're not talking about those people, you're talking about the sort of people who blow themselves up.
00:50:52.000You think that they're doing it to help bring about the end-time prophecy?
00:52:30.000And I'm not saying all of them are like this or anything, but I think it's the same motivation that drives them.
00:52:34.000They think that they've been neglecting their faith and they haven't done the spiritual duty.
00:52:38.000And then they look back and they've been like, "Christ, I've been eating pork, I've been fornicating, I've been drinking." I love that you started with pork.
00:53:20.000But it's interesting that a lot of people go, well, these weren't really Muslims, as you can see, they're hypocrites, because the 9-11 hijackers, for example, spent their night in a strip club and they were drinking, or you can find...
00:53:28.000Maybe they're going to have their sins absolved.
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01:00:29.000prep, we were just talking about this, where a lot of these other shows, they'll do like these pre-interview interviews, and I'm not comfortable with that, because A, it's not reality when you're watching it, especially with a political show.
01:00:41.000It's like, yeah, show us all your cards, and then we'll bring you on to chat with Bill Maher, whoever it is.
01:00:54.000Yeah, I don't remember what they wanted from me, but they were like, well, you're not as conservative as we thought.
01:00:59.000Like, I don't really, I won't line up with anybody's, like, if they want me to say something on Fox& Friends or if they want me to say this, it's like, I don't like to plan.
01:01:09.000Like everything else, you kind of go back and forth.
01:01:12.000I don't want to just have to give a certain answer to be on a show.
01:01:15.000Well, I think you were considered more conservative for a while because during that spell at Fox, people didn't appear on Fox News.
01:01:21.000Like, oh, you appeared on Fox News, and you were one of the first who was just willing to and weren't necessarily conservative or certainly wouldn't line up with a lot of the hosts there at Fox.
01:01:50.000Fox never once, however they editorialize news the same way every other network does, they never once came to me and said, hey, that doesn't fit in line with what we want.
01:02:41.000We have that thing on a morphine drip on here.
01:02:43.000She was at the Women's March and she was reading slam poetry and it was like she tried to hit the emphasis and she's like, we don't choose!
01:03:52.000When I met you and I met Ant, you know, there at Fox, it didn't really matter to me whether you were conservative.
01:03:57.000And I was like, oh, we can connect on this level.
01:03:59.000And I just, I always had a really hard time, probably because I'm in the entertainment industry since I was so young, being surrounded by these insane people like the Ashley Judds.
01:04:08.000It just seems like there's an incapability.
01:04:10.000I don't know if you see this in the comedy world, for the left to just connect together.
01:04:16.000sometimes on a human level because it's just pure insanity.
01:04:28.000Well, it's hard for them to get me on anything because I'm talking about my own life and my own experiences and it's like, hey, you go out and admit the stuff I admit.
01:05:11.000People think he's great or he's Hitler.
01:05:15.000There's no one that will say, like, yeah, he does say a lot of stupid stuff, but hey, look, some of the stuff he's doing for jobs might make sense and Some of these ideas might make sense.
01:05:23.000We have no ability just to judge a guy like a guy.
01:05:28.000I wouldn't sell myself short, though, that way.
01:05:31.000I don't know about changing opinions, but I think you change people's perceptions.
01:05:35.000We were talking about this with Nick DiPaolo.
01:05:36.000You mentioned this, too, at the Comedy Cellar, and I always felt this way, and you crystallized it when you were talking about the Just for Laughs, the nasty show.
01:06:37.000People don't get as mad if you don't agree with them as they do when they feel like you're not hearing them.
01:06:42.000So I try to let you know why I feel the way I do, and if you don't agree, so what?
01:06:45.000I wonder if that's why you're able to be more balanced in your approach because as someone who, for whatever people think about your comedy, it's deeply, I just, for anyone who's watching, I had blood, like a whole vial of blood taking me, so I'm a little slow.
01:07:09.000So I wonder if since your platform has kind of always been, you've sort of filleted your, I hate, it sounds so like self-important when comedians are like, I'm filleting myself for the audience.
01:07:17.000But you've been so open personally that maybe you don't feel the need to scream to be heard because every night you get up, you're effectively being heard.
01:07:29.000I want to be as original as I possibly can be.
01:07:32.000And part of it is my own life is my own thing.
01:07:35.000So I know I'm being original when I talk about my life.
01:07:37.000That was kind of what motivated me to do it.
01:07:39.000And I do make fun of myself because I like to make fun of myself.
01:07:42.000That's my internal monologue just coming out.
01:07:45.000I mean, those jokes I've done about putting a dildo between my man breasts and shooting myself, those are real thoughts I've had over the years.
01:07:53.000I just said it on stage and people enjoyed it, but I didn't write that down.
01:07:58.000I didn't think that'd be clever to write.
01:08:00.000It just kind of came out and people related to the irrational self-hatred.
01:08:04.000So if you just talk about, I think, if you're honest, people can kind of smell it, you know?
01:08:42.000And if you've never felt the fires of hell at your soul...
01:08:46.000in front of a retarded kid at a pizza party, and I got called on it.
01:08:50.000And so I had this bit, and it usually kills, and I just sort of was doing it at this, you know, I was in a jacket.
01:08:55.000It was this fundraising setting, and the moment I started doing it, I saw the white hairs in the audience, and I said, oh, this is not going to go well.
01:09:03.000Well, sometimes, you know, it's funny.
01:09:04.000The funny thing about that is the fact that you're telling on yourself publicly.
01:09:08.000Like, that to me is like, we all do cringy things like, oh my God, I should be executed.
01:09:13.000But the fact that you go on stage and go, look what an ass I was, that to me is the fun part of that.
01:09:18.000And that's why that's a good story to tell because everyone has done stuff that they look back on and go like, oh God, why did I do that?
01:09:24.000So I don't think there's anything wrong with telling that story, especially if it's under the umbrella of, hey, look, we all suck sometimes.
01:10:02.000I remember for a long time, HuffPo, if I made a joke, because I'd go to CPAC or they'd ask me to MC and I'd say, sure, and it'd be televised.
01:10:09.000And anything offensive was a joke about Ashley.
01:12:54.000How artists get a little self-important about their role.
01:12:58.000And it's like, you know, our role is to be, again, as a comic, express what I want to express and be funny or try to be funny while I'm doing it.
01:13:06.000Yeah, well, you know, I do ask, so I have to ask you this then, because we've talked, we've had different points of view, and I've talked with Joe Rogan about it, Nick DiPaolo.
01:13:39.000We see a lot of this with this sort of next generation of comedians coming up.
01:13:43.000I feel like, and I could be wrong, as someone who sees both sides of this coin, a lot of young kids going to open mics or even doing sort of the YouTube comedy, where it's changed, where there were a lot of people who comedy was all about free speech.
01:13:57.000There were even some names we could throw out there who were shocked comedians, and then they shut the door behind them, and now they're out there protesting and accusing people of hate speech.
01:14:06.000It might be tough because you sell out theaters now, but do you feel like there's a different vibe where a lot of comedians are afraid?
01:14:12.000And not just not guys like you who are successful because you have an audience no matter what.
01:14:16.000But for the kid who is going to run up against the club book or who doesn't want to deal with the lawsuit or someone accusing him of hate speech.
01:14:26.000Yeah, it bothers me that when comedians start saying what other comedians should say, and I do think that people are afraid of it, but it's almost like there's no way to tell.
01:14:46.000Or if I was up there bashing gay people in a way that meant like I really hated gay people, they wouldn't go with that because they'd be like, eh, it's kind of ugly.
01:14:52.000But the problem is when you're really not trying to be hateful and people know you're not trying to be hateful, and it's almost like the landmines aren't set.
01:14:59.000You're walking and someone's backing up in front of you, throwing the landmines, or if you step on one, you're a terrible person and they got you and they love to get you.
01:15:09.000It's not even about the language or gay people or black people or Jews or women.
01:15:12.000It's not about any special interest group.
01:15:51.000So even people that want to kill you...
01:15:54.000For doing it, now all of a sudden it turns around and gets them in the face because they don't realize the ugliness of just targeting people and playing gotcha.
01:17:44.000So, like, I'm a bit of a pig in my real life, and I'm dirty on stage, and I say it, and if people like it, they come, and if they don't like it, they don't have to come.
01:18:00.000And it was like, you know, people think that the conservatives are the ones marching down the street with pitchforks, but they're not anymore.
01:20:38.000One thing I will say to Matt Serra, my first jiu-jitsu instructor when I lived in New York, I won't say who he is, but he was of an opposing school of Alliance Jiu-Jitsu.
01:20:46.000Back then there was a huge rivalry with Matt Serra.
01:25:33.000So if you can get the clicks, you can get the traffic, you can get the hoorahs from whatever side of the, you know, if it's a white guy wearing a MAGA hat, then you want to tweet that and Photoshop that.
01:25:41.000If it's, you know, Osama bin Laden himself, then that's going to get you some clicks too.
01:25:53.000Yesterday, Devin Nunez, the top topic on the trending tweets was, Devin Nunez just got Trump impeached.
01:26:01.000And I remember clicking it, and I read through this article, at least three or four paragraphs, until I realized, oh, it's complete bullcrap.
01:26:56.000I think having so many more news markets, all these, you know...
01:26:59.000YouTube news channels and little podcasts and little websites and Tumblr news stations, whatever it is.
01:27:06.000I think all that, and Twitter, especially Twitter and Facebook, has just changed the pace of news so much that there is this eagerness to get on stories first, and then what...
01:27:15.000When you can't do that, you just throw integrity out the window.
01:27:17.000Just say, anything, just beat these guys.
01:27:21.000So even if it's wrong, just beat those guys.
01:28:43.000And so even though that step might seem minute, even though it may seem really, really small, maybe fact checking, maybe waiting that extra few minutes, maybe just putting in that little bit of extra work, maybe just doing a little bit more digging, maybe making that extra phone call to corroborate your sources, or even let's remove it from news in anything that you do in your life, whether you want to be a journalist, whether you want to be a doctor, whether you want to be a philosopher, whether you want to get a PhD in women's studies, for all I care.
01:29:08.000Just going that little extra mile, that little degree can be the difference between being hot, being warm, and boiling.
01:29:15.000And I don't think we see people right now in media, that's my milieu, media going that little extra bit, just that little extra degree.
01:30:12.000When it's hard, when you don't know what's going on, when things are uncertain, when it requires a little more due diligence, that's what discipline is.
01:30:18.000is it's doing something after the excitement, after the enthusiasm has worn off.
01:30:22.000And that's why people who are disciplined, it could be the gym, Lena Dunham.
01:30:26.000It could be journalists, which I would like to see some disciplined journalism.
01:30:29.000It could be anything that you're doing.
01:30:30.000You want to be a writer, you want to be an actor, you want to be a comedian, whatever it is, that discipline really tends to be what separates people.
01:30:37.000It separates that elite level as we see it and everyone else.