Louder with Crowder - #141 MULTI-CULTURALISM HAS FAILED! Jim Norton and Sargon of Akkad | Louder With Crowder

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00:02:40.000 It's Thursday.

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00:02:44.000 Thank you for being with us, sir.

00:02:45.000 Worst twiddle in the business, can I say?

00:02:47.000 He can't even get the first words out.

00:02:49.000 That's a sure sign of a quality program.

00:02:53.000 We have today, we have comedian Jim Norton, Sargon of a Cat, former mayor Rudy Giuliani.

00:02:59.000 So, big show.

00:03:00.000 We're really excited to get to that.

00:03:01.000 We have a lot of news to get to.

00:03:02.000 Of course, jam-packed.

00:03:04.000 If you haven't been watching The Daily Show, those out there who are not Mug Club members, we've obviously covered news of the day every single day. 0.98

00:03:11.000 But before we get to that, I swear to you, this is not a sketch.

00:03:14.000 This is real life.

00:03:17.000 Okay?

00:03:18.000 Let's get real.

00:03:19.000 I walk into the pitch meeting this morning and Aaron, the intern, is about to...

00:03:24.000 We thought we were going to have to call an ambulance.

00:03:26.000 He was laughing so hard because of this headline you can see here.

00:03:29.000 I swear to you, we walk into the pitch meeting this morning and Aaron, the intern, this was him.

00:03:36.000 It's complicated.

00:03:37.000 Makes sense of it with BuzzFeed Newsletter.

00:03:40.000 Oh, they think they're a reliable dude.

00:03:49.000 This went on for like...

00:03:57.000 Oh my God.

00:04:04.000 Did you sleep much last night, Aaron?

00:04:07.000 I know you were working late.

00:04:08.000 Oh, I feel better now.

00:04:12.000 That was about like 20 minutes into it.

00:04:14.000 That was a long time into it.

00:04:15.000 He couldn't stop.

00:04:16.000 He couldn't believe that someone would write that headline for BuzzFeed without a hint of irony.

00:04:21.000 A hint of irony.

00:04:22.000 Alright, so we want to do that because we have to get some serious news here that's obviously not fun.

00:04:25.000 The suspect in the London terrorist attack.

00:04:27.000 We talked about it yesterday.

00:04:28.000 We tried to hold the show.

00:04:30.000 We tape the show live here.

00:04:31.000 You're watching it live on YouTube.

00:04:32.000 Hi, how are you?

00:04:33.000 And then it goes 9 p.m.

00:04:35.000 at CRTV. And then some days of the week, we try to pre-tape the show a little earlier.

00:04:39.000 And yesterday, we were waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting to the deadline to try and get some information.

00:04:43.000 Of course, the media had it so wrong all day, not even close.

00:04:47.000 But today, we know the suspect is Khalid Massoud. 0.94

00:04:51.000 I'm probably mispronouncing that, but I don't really care because he's a terrorist.

00:04:54.000 And the attack is...

00:04:57.000 Well, it wasn't the Canadians. 0.95

00:04:58.000 It wasn't the Canadians. 0.99

00:04:59.000 For those who are wondering, the suspicion.

00:05:01.000 So, of course, it was Islam again. 1.00

00:05:04.000 And the scary fact, just like Tommy Robinson was saying, and he was laughed out of the street when he was saying, I guarantee you this person will be an Islamist, and I guarantee you he will already have been either investigated or surveilled or been on watch for terrorism. 0.83

00:05:17.000 Well, this guy's already been linked to violent extremism.

00:05:20.000 It's really no surprise anymore.

00:05:21.000 Anytime these attacks happen, I know we have to withhold judgment like we always tell people to do in other situations, but we knew.

00:05:27.000 And we did.

00:05:28.000 If you watched yesterday's show, we didn't go out and say, okay, we're absolutely sure he's Islamic.

00:05:32.000 We knew for sure that he wasn't Asian, as the first report said.

00:05:36.000 Oh, yeah, an Asian black man with a beard. 1.00

00:05:39.000 Wow. 0.96

00:05:40.000 Two things that Asians typically can't do. 1.00

00:05:42.000 Grow facial hair and be black. 1.00

00:05:44.000 Be black. 1.00

00:05:46.000 One would say they're almost precluded due to their race. 0.99

00:05:52.000 So...

00:05:53.000 You know, we talked about Brussels, Paris, London.

00:05:56.000 I think there were 12 plotted terrorist attacks that either were carried out or thwarted in London.

00:06:02.000 It doesn't matter how tolerant you are.

00:06:04.000 It doesn't matter how much you virtue signal.

00:06:05.000 It doesn't matter how many guns you ban.

00:06:07.000 It doesn't matter how many pointy sticks you ban.

00:06:09.000 Evil will find you.

00:06:11.000 In Europe, evil is amongst you.

00:06:14.000 In the UK alone, 50,000 people.

00:06:16.000 I think Tommy Robinson was talking about this.

00:06:18.000 We have the data up on the website.

00:06:19.000 50,000 people downloaded a terrorist manual.

00:06:23.000 Driving trucks into people is in that manual.

00:06:25.000 Evil is amongst you in Europe right now.

00:06:28.000 And the people are waking up.

00:06:29.000 The people are waking up in my home country in Canada, too.

00:06:32.000 Where they're getting pretty tired of it.

00:06:33.000 And they're saying, you know what?

00:06:34.000 Maybe there is some evil here.

00:06:35.000 Maybe we need to look at these cultures that just can't seem to find common ground. 1.00

00:06:40.000 And a big portion of it, A, is Islam. 0.94

00:06:43.000 Muhammad, namely.

00:06:44.000 I have no problem with Muslims who don't follow Muhammad. 0.73

00:06:47.000 I'm good with them.

00:06:49.000 If you're not following his lead, we're cool.

00:06:52.000 But anyone who follows Muhammad's example, we immediately start getting into problems. 1.00

00:06:56.000 Like, well, okay, maybe I don't want to kill all Jews and infidels. 1.00

00:06:58.000 What about beating my six-year-old wife? 0.99

00:07:00.000 No, that's kind of gray territory. 0.98

00:07:03.000 Anyone who follows Muhammad is a problem. 1.00

00:07:05.000 That's the first part.

00:07:06.000 And then multiculturalism.

00:07:08.000 Multiculturalism, we've talked about that, and it's when people say, well, you mean you don't like different cultures?

00:07:11.000 No, no.

00:07:12.000 The United States is a melting pot.

00:07:13.000 Multiculturalism means that wherever you immigrate, your culture comes first. 0.77

00:07:18.000 So you are still Muslim. 0.85

00:07:20.000 This is why you have 80-something Sharia courts in the UK. This is why you have people who don't even speak the language. 1.00

00:07:25.000 This is why you have no-go zones for anyone who's not Muslim. 1.00

00:07:29.000 In the United States, you came here, you were American first, period. 0.99

00:07:32.000 Now, some people get mad.

00:07:34.000 I'm not saying this was entirely necessary, but even when you look at the original signers of our documents in the United States, they were worried about them being Catholic.

00:07:40.000 Because of the political clout of the Vatican.

00:07:43.000 And they didn't want anyone who had any allegiance higher to any state, any country above the United States of America.

00:07:50.000 It was, you come here, you can bring some of your culture, that's fine, but you're American.

00:07:54.000 You're no longer...

00:07:56.000 Whatever it is.

00:07:58.000 Iranian-American.

00:07:59.000 And I get this person was British-born, but the idea of multiculturalism, it divides.

00:08:03.000 And when you have a secularist multiculturalist vacuum in the UK, it gets filled by something.

00:08:08.000 We'll talk about this with Sargon of Akkad.

00:08:10.000 You know, Jordan Peterson talked about this.

00:08:12.000 Whether you think it's a sociological, I guess, a human behavioral pattern to process information, you think it's the flying spaghetti monster...

00:08:21.000 All societies have somehow looked to a higher power or believed in some form of religion.

00:08:26.000 There's been some determining form of religion to society.

00:08:29.000 You can just say it's a coping mechanism.

00:08:30.000 Fine.

00:08:31.000 But a lack of belief, atheists, and I'm not saying that you're wrong. 1.00

00:08:36.000 I'm not going after atheists. 0.93

00:08:37.000 I'm talking about a society.

00:08:38.000 A lack of belief does not fill that void.

00:08:43.000 If you're in a society that's based on a lack of belief, on apathy, Islam will fill it. 1.00

00:08:50.000 That's what they're looking to do right now.

00:08:53.000 And that's why it's so disconcerting when, you know, this came up from the London mayor, Sadiq Khan, so maybe you can guess where he's coming from.

00:08:58.000 This was from six months ago.

00:08:59.000 It surfaced because of one of Donald Trump's sons.

00:09:03.000 He said this, he had this to say, he said, Donald Trump and those around him think that Western liberal values are incompatible with mainstream Islam.

00:09:08.000 London has proved him wrong.

00:09:12.000 Maybe not.

00:09:13.000 Yeah, maybe not.

00:09:14.000 On second thought.

00:09:15.000 Yeah.

00:09:16.000 I just, one of those, it hasn't.

00:09:18.000 Europe is crumbling.

00:09:19.000 Europe has failed.

00:09:21.000 Can we say the experiment is done now?

00:09:23.000 I would hope so, but I don't think they will.

00:09:25.000 I think they're just going to ride this pony into the ground, baby.

00:09:28.000 It's just going to happen.

00:09:29.000 Yeah.

00:09:29.000 It's interesting, too.

00:09:30.000 You can think about it.

00:09:30.000 I mean, talk about the Bible.

00:09:32.000 You can think about it as history or a parable, but think about Babel.

00:09:35.000 I always think about this when people try to argue multiculturalism versus the melting pot, which we talk about.

00:09:40.000 Yeah.

00:09:41.000 That was the language in the cultures was one of the things that God put, you know, a parable in history, put down on people to separate them, to make them disperse, to separate people.

00:09:51.000 Yeah.

00:09:51.000 I used to think NKJ was cool until he said he never read the Bible.

00:09:55.000 I don't read books I don't like.

00:09:58.000 No, I mean, he's right, though.

00:09:59.000 I mean, I think your point is very accurate.

00:10:02.000 You're trying to bring in your country's culture and impose that on another country that you're in. 0.98

00:10:06.000 I understand maintaining some cultural identity and some heritage and things like that.

00:10:10.000 We're not against that at all.

00:10:11.000 Come over here.

00:10:11.000 Legally bring your taco sombreros.

00:10:13.000 I love Taco Bell.

00:10:13.000 We're good.

00:10:15.000 I love Taco Bell.

00:10:15.000 Two things will happen.

00:10:16.000 One, you won't understand me very well, and I won't understand you very well.

00:10:19.000 And sometimes that'll mean we'll be at odds, unfortunately, or unintentionally.

00:10:23.000 We just won't know each other well enough to understand.

00:10:25.000 I'm not saying this terrorist was an immigrant. 0.63

00:10:27.000 He was a Muslim-born.

00:10:28.000 But the radicalization that occurs in Europe...

00:10:31.000 It is because of a secularist void and multiculturalism, which effectively is almost a secular set of worldviews, multiculturalism, certainly as it's enforced in Europe.

00:10:40.000 The idea of tolerance to be the virtue above all other virtues.

00:10:44.000 So it's important to recognize that even if they were born, and by the way, did you see all the leftists, they were mad, like, why did you say British born?

00:10:49.000 Why did you say British? 1.00

00:10:50.000 Because he's an asshole! 1.00

00:10:52.000 We want to put an asterisk next to his name. 1.00

00:10:54.000 Can we do that?

00:10:55.000 Can we do that?

00:10:55.000 Can we do that with a terrorist?

00:10:56.000 Do we have to be sensitive?

00:10:58.000 Well, and the thing is, even a lot of Islam, people that are Muslim, it's Muslim first and then the country. 0.73

00:11:04.000 So even if you're born in the United States and you happen to be in the Muslim culture, it tends to segregate itself naturally. 0.94

00:11:10.000 So even though they're there, he's British born, it doesn't matter. 0.99

00:11:12.000 Right.

00:11:13.000 That's a good point.

00:11:14.000 And by the way, contrast what the London mayor had to say with people like George Bush or Rudy Giuliani right after 9-11, you know, the terrorist attack on American soil.

00:11:23.000 I think you contrast that quote with Giuliani, and you can see a different approach.

00:11:28.000 These are extraordinarily strong, strong people.

00:11:31.000 I mean, Americans have been tested now, and I think the response to the test is going to be a very unified country and a response that makes sure that we prevail.

00:11:43.000 The response was from a place of strength and unity.

00:11:46.000 Okay, we're not going to tolerate this.

00:11:49.000 We don't play no games, George Bush and Giuliani said, as opposed to right away the first response from people in Europe is, hashtag not all Muslims, come on, we want to be...

00:11:58.000 No, I don't want to say all Europeans. 0.99

00:11:59.000 They didn't elect these jackasses. 0.99

00:12:01.000 I mean, they did elect these jackasses, sorry. 0.97

00:12:03.000 But they did not make this decision from their elected officials. 0.96

00:12:07.000 Many of whom regret, by the way.

00:12:09.000 A lot of them are regretful.

00:12:10.000 Elected officials made these decisions, and they don't speak for everybody in Europe.

00:12:14.000 So we want to be clear.

00:12:15.000 I know it's silly, and I make fun of Europe because, you know, soccer and man buns, and you're a little bit effeminate, but our heart goes out to our European brethren.

00:12:23.000 But Giuliani, from a place of strength and unity, and you can't do that with multiculturalism. 0.68

00:12:30.000 You know, you can fake it, hands-holding, we are the world, but it doesn't really mean anything.

00:12:33.000 So, do we have?

00:12:34.000 I think we have.

00:12:35.000 We have him on, actually.

00:12:36.000 On the show, we wanted, for contrast, to bring on Mayor Giuliani.

00:12:40.000 Former Mayor Giuliani, are you there, sir?

00:12:42.000 Okay.

00:12:42.000 Yes.

00:12:43.000 Thank you very much for being here, sir.

00:12:45.000 No, we're thrilled to have you.

00:12:46.000 And the reason we wanted to have you on was because we think there's a stark contrast to be drawn between you and the London mayor.

00:12:52.000 I want to get his name right here.

00:12:53.000 Sadiq Khan.

00:12:54.000 Sadiq Khan.

00:12:55.000 I'm sure you're aware of his statements from six months ago and also the backlash to some of his reactions.

00:13:01.000 Now, that's a real contrast to the era of you and George Bush 9-11 in the United States and hunting down enemies in unity.

00:13:09.000 Why do you think that is?

00:13:11.000 Thank you.

00:13:12.000 I'm glad to be here. 0.99

00:13:13.000 And I think a fundamental contrasting difference between the way the United States handled terrorist activity and what you see in Europe, in London specifically, is that the mayor, as you mentioned, Is a giant pussy. 0.99

00:13:32.000 Okay, I don't think we were ready for that here on this show. 0.99

00:13:35.000 No, no, no.

00:13:36.000 I don't want...

00:13:37.000 No, Stephen, it's very important that I'm able to clarify my position so it's not taken out of context. 1.00

00:13:44.000 When I say a giant pussy, what I mean is that I believe the mayor of London, Stephen, is a full-blown faggot. 1.00

00:13:52.000 No, okay. 1.00

00:13:53.000 You know, I guess when you're no longer mayor...

00:13:56.000 You don't feel the need to maybe curb some of these inside thoughts.

00:14:00.000 Thank you, Mayor Giuliani.

00:14:01.000 We appreciate it.

00:14:02.000 But at this point, we'll have you back maybe when the wounds aren't so fresh.

00:14:05.000 Steven, Mr.

00:14:06.000 Crowder, it's very important that I'm able to explain as to not be misconstrued.

00:14:12.000 I believe that right now, if you were to go into the Mayor of London's office, he would be found there. 0.98

00:14:18.000 Surrounded by cocks, Steven. 0.97

00:14:20.000 Alright, okay, that's it. 0.96

00:14:21.000 No more Giuliani.

00:14:23.000 As far as I can see, Steven.

00:14:26.000 Cut him, Jared.

00:14:27.000 We can't have him on.

00:14:30.000 I respect the man, but one could say he's almost a liability.

00:14:36.000 He's a bit of a badass.

00:14:38.000 Okay.

00:14:39.000 One more story.

00:14:40.000 CNN. Well, two more stories.

00:14:41.000 CNN had another story last night.

00:14:43.000 The story was about, guess what?

00:14:44.000 Donald Trump and Russia.

00:14:46.000 U.S. officials.

00:14:47.000 Just the headline.

00:14:48.000 U.S. officials' info suggests Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians.

00:14:54.000 I read this and I thought, wait, wait.

00:14:55.000 Hold on.

00:14:56.000 Is this a 2016 article?

00:14:57.000 No, it's a new one.

00:14:58.000 Info suggests...

00:15:01.000 Associates may have...

00:15:02.000 And the article is more of it.

00:15:04.000 By the way, it was timed perfectly because they were getting their asses handed to them by Neil Gorsuch and then Devin Nunes came out and it wasn't necessarily the best information for them.

00:15:11.000 They tried to pivot. 0.94

00:15:11.000 So right away, at the end of the night, they drop Donald Trump Russia. 0.94

00:15:17.000 Is this an evergreen or something?

00:15:18.000 They hang on to the story and just repost?

00:15:20.000 So, to get to the...

00:15:21.000 I mean, listen.

00:15:23.000 I am not saying that it is impossible for Russia and some Trump associates to have had communication or some to have had ulterior motives.

00:15:31.000 I'm not saying...

00:15:31.000 As a matter of fact, I think there's a good possibility and I will be first in line to hope that those people get fired and tried if they are buddies with Putin.

00:15:39.000 Okay?

00:15:39.000 But the baseless...

00:15:42.000 Accusations that never end.

00:15:45.000 It's tough to get to the bottom of what's true and what's not, so we decided to commission the world's greatest detective.

00:15:52.000 We're always glad to have him here as an independent contractor on Lotterworth Crowder.

00:15:56.000 Yeah, really fortunate. 0.98

00:15:57.000 Bullshit man. 1.00

00:16:02.000 Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! 1.00

00:16:11.000 Hold that guy, Robbie! 1.00

00:16:16.000 It's a bulls**t pun. 0.96

00:16:17.000 Jeepers! 0.99

00:16:18.000 Hello, Commissioner Bulls**t. 0.97

00:16:20.000 Yes, sir. 0.92

00:16:21.000 Right away, sir.

00:16:22.000 Understood, sir.

00:16:24.000 CNN. Yes, sir.

00:16:27.000 To the Bulls**t-nobile. 0.98

00:16:33.000 Bulls**t! 1.00

00:16:36.000 Holy cow, Batman. 0.99

00:16:37.000 Looks like Donald Trump's been colluding with the Russians. 0.64

00:16:40.000 At first glance, it would appear that way.

00:16:41.000 But look closer at the words in these articles, Robin.

00:16:44.000 Appears to be possibly, perhaps, inconclusive.

00:16:49.000 Allegedly.

00:16:50.000 Do you smell that, Robin? 1.00

00:16:52.000 Smells like bullshit, Batman. 1.00

00:16:54.000 No, Robin. 1.00

00:16:55.000 That's horse shit. 1.00

00:16:56.000 And it's important for a junk detective to know the difference because it's coming this way. 1.00

00:17:00.000 Oh! 0.85

00:17:02.000 Oh! 1.00

00:17:07.000 This bullshit's been solved! 1.00

00:17:08.000 Back to the bullshit, we're having to understood time! 1.00

00:17:12.000 Yes, sir, Commissioner Bullshit. 1.00

00:17:14.000 We can now say with absolute confidence that you can consider this bullshit 100%... 1.00

00:17:19.000 I'm going to do the thing. 0.99

00:17:22.000 No, no, no.

00:17:23.000 Okay, I'm on the phone, though.

00:17:24.000 We've talked about this.

00:17:26.000 Just stop right now.

00:17:27.000 We'll talk about it. 0.93

00:17:28.000 Commissioner Bullshit, I'm sorry about that. 0.99

00:17:30.000 You can consider this bullshit officially 100% solved! 1.00

00:17:35.000 Bullshit! 1.00

00:17:36.000 Bullshit! 1.00

00:17:39.000 Well, I'm glad that's the end of that mystery. 1.00

00:17:42.000 I'm glad that the dark detective, he did his work there.

00:17:47.000 Here's the deal.

00:17:48.000 When everything ties into Russia, I don't know about you, but at first I was going, I'm really concerned about this.

00:17:53.000 This worries me.

00:17:54.000 This bothers me.

00:17:55.000 I don't want a foreign government having any influence over our election. 1.00

00:17:57.000 Even though I didn't want Hillary Clinton to win. 0.98

00:17:59.000 But now, my little phone goes ding!

00:18:02.000 And the word Russia is in there, screen lock, and I put it down.

00:18:07.000 Exactly.

00:18:08.000 I just love the headline.

00:18:10.000 There's two words that stand out to me.

00:18:11.000 One, suggests, and two, may.

00:18:13.000 It didn't say it.

00:18:14.000 It says Trump associates may.

00:18:16.000 And by the way, associates.

00:18:18.000 Suggests associates may.

00:18:19.000 This is like the most...

00:18:21.000 Baseless headline I've ever seen in my life.

00:18:23.000 Like, can't you say something specific?

00:18:25.000 No. 1.00

00:18:25.000 Sources suggest that Donald Trump may enjoy pissing on supposedly Russian prostitutes. 1.00

00:18:31.000 Well, let me talk about this yesterday. 0.99

00:18:32.000 Trump, Russia, and maybe have spectacular SEOs.

00:18:35.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:18:37.000 It's like covering your own butt. 0.98

00:18:38.000 I have no story, but I want to say Trump and Russia, so let's throw this out there. 0.99

00:18:41.000 Exactly.

00:18:42.000 And if you have something, listen, we want to read it.

00:18:44.000 But this is why people no longer trust you.

00:18:46.000 This is like the red scare, except now we have Twitter.

00:18:49.000 Yes, exactly.

00:18:51.000 Exactly.

00:18:51.000 A good point.

00:18:52.000 It's the verified blue checkmark scare.

00:18:55.000 All right.

00:18:56.000 In other news here, Lena Dunham.

00:18:58.000 We've talked about her a lot, but she lost some weight recently.

00:19:00.000 She's made headlines for it. 0.79

00:19:02.000 I think she looks great.

00:19:03.000 Listen, I want to give credit where it's due. 0.99

00:19:05.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:19:07.000 Shut up! 1.00

00:19:09.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:19:10.000 Both of you, shut up. 1.00

00:19:11.000 I think you're overrated. 1.00

00:19:14.000 Great.

00:19:14.000 She looks good there.

00:19:15.000 Good.

00:19:16.000 Those are fine.

00:19:16.000 She looks good there, but it's one out of 24 frames.

00:19:20.000 There's a lot that could go wrong in the rest.

00:19:22.000 Okay?

00:19:23.000 I'm not hating on her.

00:19:24.000 I'm just saying maybe not great.

00:19:26.000 Maybe not great.

00:19:26.000 Someone switching the reels.

00:19:28.000 Oh, God.

00:19:29.000 Oh, God.

00:19:32.000 Okay.

00:19:32.000 Listen, I want to give credit where it's due.

00:19:34.000 I think she looks a lot better.

00:19:35.000 Sure.

00:19:36.000 Hey, Lena Dunham.

00:19:37.000 Proud of you for making this effort and losing a significant amount of weight.

00:19:40.000 Absolutely.

00:19:41.000 She's been in the news talking about it, and sure as night follows day, she now has to fight off the cannibal social justice warriors who are giving her crap for losing weight, saying that she wasn't proud of her previous body, that now it's a bad example. 0.63

00:19:56.000 And she... 1.00

00:19:57.000 Oh, God.

00:19:58.000 Okay.

00:19:58.000 Here's the thing.

00:19:59.000 Yeah.

00:20:00.000 I'm sympathetic toward Lady Undenum because we've dealt with it. 0.98

00:20:03.000 Okay?

00:20:03.000 We know that side of the coin.

00:20:05.000 She's now saying, listen, she's doing this for health reasons, that she's done it for her anxiety.

00:20:10.000 She's happier.

00:20:12.000 She said, endorphins are real, is a quote in the article.

00:20:14.000 And I guess she's pivoting from what she once said.

00:20:16.000 Anyone that's going...

00:20:17.000 Everyone that's ever gone on a diet knows that losing 5, 10, 15 pounds isn't the thing that sends you barreling toward a stronger sense of self.

00:20:24.000 Well, now she seems to have a stronger sense of self.

00:20:26.000 And she seems to be happier.

00:20:28.000 She's saying, right, I'm healthier.

00:20:30.000 I have more energy.

00:20:31.000 I'm happier.

00:20:33.000 My neurotransmission is better.

00:20:37.000 Yes!

00:20:38.000 There you go!

00:20:39.000 This is what we've been saying!

00:20:40.000 For years!

00:20:42.000 For years!

00:20:42.000 You're just fat-shaming.

00:20:44.000 I'm proud.

00:20:44.000 I'm happy in my body.

00:20:45.000 No, you're not!

00:20:47.000 And we've been saying that.

00:20:48.000 This is the thing. 0.91

00:20:48.000 Feminism and the fat pride culture is one big, giant lie to yourself. 0.91

00:20:54.000 Yes, but it's not fat-shaming. 1.00

00:20:55.000 If you walk up, you're fat, you're disgusting. 0.99

00:20:57.000 Okay, that's bad. 1.00

00:20:58.000 That's bad.

00:20:59.000 When we went to the panel, and they said concern troll, and they're like, we wish you got healthier.

00:21:02.000 Well, look.

00:21:03.000 Clogged arteries are a social construct.

00:21:08.000 My pulmonary struggle is a byproduct of patriarchy.

00:21:12.000 Diabetes is white supremacy.

00:21:15.000 Really, honestly, it's gone around the bend of we shouldn't make fun of people to science is fat shaming.

00:21:22.000 Medical journals are concerned.

00:21:24.000 There's study after study after study that exercise alone, let alone being healthier and at a healthier weight, makes you happier, does release endorphins, makes neurotransmission more efficient.

00:21:35.000 Neurotransmitters like dopamine, serotonin, norepinephrine, and I know this stuff really well because I've been to doctors regarding this with thyroid issues, with mental health issues.

00:21:43.000 I've talked about this.

00:21:45.000 There is a direct correlation.

00:21:46.000 And when we go out and we say this and we shout it from the rooftops and say, listen, you'd probably be happier if you dropped 40.

00:21:52.000 And you say, that's just fat shaming.

00:21:53.000 It's a fat shaming culture. 0.88

00:21:54.000 But every single time somebody actually takes the initiative and does it, they find themselves happier and healthier.

00:21:59.000 At what point do you say, hey, maybe they're correct here?

00:22:03.000 Maybe they're on to something.

00:22:05.000 We don't say these things because we hate you.

00:22:07.000 We don't say, hey listen, you should probably lose a few.

00:22:09.000 Hey listen, you should probably do some more exercise.

00:22:11.000 You should maybe lift some weights.

00:22:12.000 You should do some cardio.

00:22:13.000 You'll probably feel better.

00:22:14.000 We don't say that because we hate you.

00:22:15.000 Doctors don't say that because they hate you.

00:22:17.000 They say it's just like parents.

00:22:19.000 And it shows why leftists are just like small children.

00:22:21.000 Honestly.

00:22:23.000 Society, doctors, people who disagree with you, they express to you ideas that will better your life, that will verifiably, undeniably improve your life.

00:22:32.000 And they say it because they want good things for you, just like a parent.

00:22:35.000 They want the best for you.

00:22:37.000 But leftists just refuse to hear it scream up and down no, simply because they want to go against what you're telling them, even though it is entirely factually accurate.

00:22:47.000 The left...

00:22:49.000 Lena Dunham's weight loss, what I'm saying, has confirmed that the left in 2017 are nothing more than large children.

00:22:57.000 Now, Timmy, I've told you this before.

00:22:59.000 if you don't brush those teeth, you'll get those painful cavities. 0.96

00:23:02.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:23:08.000 Hey, Timmy.

00:23:09.000 If you don't lose the weight, the diabetes will force us to take your leg.

00:23:14.000 No, no, no, no, no, no. 0.97

00:23:18.000 I don't know why Timmy apparently gets increasingly mentally disabled.

00:23:23.000 I don't know how that is there.

00:23:27.000 So what about telling an adult to act like a child just gets really offensive?

00:23:30.000 He goes from slightly spoiled child to rain man. 0.98

00:23:34.000 Definitely.

00:23:35.000 I'm not exactly sure what happened there.

00:23:37.000 Listen, Lena Dunham lost weight, and now she's telling everyone else, hey, you know what?

00:23:40.000 Losing weight is a good idea.

00:23:41.000 I feel better.

00:23:42.000 I feel happier, healthy.

00:23:43.000 Hey, guess what?

00:23:44.000 You're looking at a situation objectively, and now you're actually observing evidence, data, and making your own inferences.

00:23:51.000 Hey, we're glad to have you.

00:23:53.000 Welcome to the club.

00:23:54.000 We'll be right back with Sargon of Akkad, then Jim Norton. 0.77

00:23:57.000 Wouldn't be silly. 0.99

00:23:58.000 Damn it, super. 0.99

00:23:59.000 I love the world. 0.99

00:24:02.000 Come on. 0.97

00:24:03.000 Well, I'll be a f***ing I'll be a f***ing uncle. 0.98

00:24:28.000 Private Sullivan, fallout shelter now! 0.98

00:24:35.000 It's even worse than I'd anticipated, Private.

00:24:37.000 The feminism virus has plagued half the globe. 1.00

00:24:40.000 Sir, yes sir.

00:24:41.000 Thank goodness.

00:24:41.000 I believe you can write it out with 30-day food supply from preparewithpratter.com, sir.

00:24:45.000 You talking about that incredibly affordable 30-day emergency food supply kit from preparewithpratter.com, $99 ship free?

00:24:50.000 That's the one, sir!

00:24:52.000 Good.

00:24:53.000 I believe we can ride this out.

00:24:54.000 The key to defeating the feminism virus is to let their blood sugar drop to zero. 1.00

00:24:58.000 At that point, they'll be too frail to fight and too emotional to think logically.

00:25:02.000 Then we strike.

00:25:03.000 Sir, yes, sir.

00:25:04.000 It's incredibly sexist, sir. 0.94

00:25:06.000 What the hell did you just say to me, Private? 0.96

00:25:08.000 Grandia, sir.

00:25:12.000 You haven't been watching any Young Turks lately, have you, Sullivan?

00:25:15.000 Sir, no, sir.

00:25:17.000 You attending any women's marches?

00:25:18.000 Sir, no, sir.

00:25:20.000 Private Sullivan, what's the average horsepower on a 1969 Shelby GT? Theater 55, sir, approximately.

00:25:25.000 Who's your favorite hockey player, Private Sullivan?

00:25:27.000 Career to all time. 1.00

00:25:29.000 All time, you ungrateful son of a bitch! 1.00

00:25:30.000 Gary Howe, sir! 1.00

00:25:31.000 Private, what's the capital of Vermont?

00:25:32.000 I'm Bill Deer.

00:25:33.000 And what's the average female salary in comparison to a male's? 1.00

00:25:35.000 Marble Street says the 77 cents on the dollar, sir. 1.00

00:25:37.000 I know it, you infected son of a bitch! 1.00

00:25:40.000 Oh, no! 1.00

00:25:46.000 Prepare with Crowder.com or call 888-411-5153.

00:25:52.000 30-day food supply kit, $99 shipped free!

00:25:55.000 They have pudding!

00:26:00.000 Dark Knight here, and thanks to my utility belt, I don't need firearms, but you do.

00:26:06.000 Which is why April 8th, the Dark Knight, Robin, and other special guests in Fort Worth will be attending the annual Second Amendment Awards, presented by the United States Concealed Carry Association.

00:26:16.000 You can buy your tickets at TwoWayAwards.com and enjoy an evening full of special guests like yours truly, Steven Crowder, Not Gay Jared, Iraq Veteran 8888, Koliath Noir, and Tim Kennedy, and more.

00:26:30.000 We'll be discussing topics like Firearm of the Year, Manufacturer of the Year, and of course, Firearm Safety, which is most important.

00:26:37.000 Which is why it's pivotal that we always clear the weapon.

00:26:40.000 Clear that, Robin.

00:26:41.000 Holy cow, Batman, that's loaded!

00:26:43.000 This whole time?

00:26:44.000 Oh, fu- See,

00:27:14.000 that's not kata. 1.00

00:27:14.000 That was just dancing. 1.00

00:27:15.000 Because I know we confused people.

00:27:16.000 We were engaging in the ancient art of kata earlier in the show.

00:27:19.000 This is just the street fighter dance.

00:27:21.000 And it's, you know...

00:27:22.000 Terrible.

00:27:23.000 Observe.

00:27:24.000 Learning about other people's cultures is respecting their cultures.

00:27:27.000 It is. 1.00

00:27:28.000 And I respect that little Asian men get their ass kicked in fights. 1.00

00:27:31.000 We have our next guest. 0.99

00:27:33.000 Very happy to bring him on.

00:27:34.000 Come on, he doesn't look happy for that introduction.

00:27:35.000 You follow him on YouTube.

00:27:37.000 We love him.

00:27:37.000 Our resident, I guess, atheist in chief.

00:27:40.000 Nice man.

00:27:40.000 Sargon of Akkad is his YouTube channel.

00:27:43.000 How are you, sir?

00:27:43.000 Yeah, I'm really good, man.

00:27:45.000 How's it going?

00:27:46.000 Well, you shouldn't be.

00:27:47.000 You're in London.

00:27:48.000 So this is a problem.

00:27:49.000 I don't know the rules with this.

00:27:50.000 How long are...

00:27:50.000 Well, you're in the UK.

00:27:51.000 You're supposed to be in the morning.

00:27:52.000 Typical American. 0.96

00:27:53.000 You think everywhere in Britain is just London.

00:27:57.000 Look, some places are like out of London as well.

00:27:59.000 Come on.

00:28:00.000 Okay.

00:28:01.000 So where are you? 1.00

00:28:02.000 Are you like one of those bastards from the north because I heard they're not good? 1.00

00:28:04.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:28:04.000 I'm in the south. 1.00

00:28:05.000 I'm about an hour out there.

00:28:07.000 Okay.

00:28:07.000 All right.

00:28:08.000 So he's from the south.

00:28:09.000 All I know is you guys are terrible at doing American accents and then you always mock us for being bad at doing your accents.

00:28:16.000 So let's just agree that no one's good at doing other accents.

00:28:19.000 But I can hear the difference.

00:28:20.000 I can hear the difference between what you sound much more like someone from London because I had a friend from Manchester and that's a very different sound.

00:28:26.000 It is.

00:28:26.000 Yeah.

00:28:27.000 The regional accents get quite strong as you go further north.

00:28:30.000 And he would laugh his ass off at Liverpool accents. 0.97

00:28:33.000 He thought it was silly. 0.97

00:28:35.000 Yeah.

00:28:36.000 They don't like each other.

00:28:37.000 They don't.

00:28:38.000 Honestly, I don't know.

00:28:38.000 It's third rivalry.

00:28:39.000 It's kind of like Texas and every place that's not Texas. 0.94

00:28:43.000 Damn right. 0.97

00:28:44.000 Pretty much. 0.92

00:28:45.000 We'll talk about this first.

00:28:46.000 What's your read on what's going on in London?

00:28:48.000 That's obviously what's been in the news.

00:28:50.000 We had to hold our info yesterday for people who aren't subscribers to The Daily Show.

00:28:55.000 We had to hold it and hold it because there was so much misinformation, you know.

00:28:59.000 Listen, we're not journalists.

00:29:01.000 We're entertainers.

00:29:01.000 But we go, okay, Channel 4 News, New York Post, I think it was BBC, confirmed the name of this guy.

00:29:07.000 We felt pretty good about it.

00:29:09.000 Totally wrong.

00:29:10.000 And then radio silence for hours.

00:29:12.000 It seemed almost like journalistic malpractice.

00:29:16.000 Yeah, a lot of people jumped the gun.

00:29:18.000 The problem was there was a photograph circulating around social media of the terrorist suspect who had been shot and was laying on the ground and being treated.

00:29:27.000 And he looked very similar to an established Islamic hate preacher in the UK who is currently in jail.

00:29:34.000 For being an Islamic hate preacher and encouraging people to join ISIS and all this sort of thing. 1.00

00:29:39.000 And so it was wildly irresponsible of the media to jump to this conclusion.

00:29:44.000 It was established outlets like Channel 4, which is, in Britain, that's a big channel.

00:29:49.000 And they take themselves seriously.

00:29:52.000 And they completely jumped the gun on this one.

00:29:54.000 Didn't even do five seconds worth of cursory Google research on a preacher who they would have found was in jail and ran with it anyway.

00:30:00.000 And it was all around the internet.

00:30:02.000 I mean, I even...

00:30:03.000 I retweeted it myself, because I saw it from Channel 4 and thought, well, they will have fact-checked this, and that's what you get for having faith in the media.

00:30:11.000 Well, most disturbing is apparently you Englishmen think all Islamic hate preachers look alike, which I think is...

00:30:20.000 We ran with it, too.

00:30:21.000 But again, at Loud with Crudit, we had an update at the top.

00:30:24.000 It said, check back for updates.

00:30:25.000 This is what we know now.

00:30:26.000 We are continuing to corroborate this.

00:30:28.000 And it's like, it's Loud with Crudit. 0.98

00:30:29.000 We literally play Spot the Tranny, and the next piece is a bit from Courtney about how much she hates fat feminists. 1.00

00:30:35.000 And we're doing the work. 0.91

00:30:36.000 We had a guy named Eric Soderstrom, hat tip to him, looking up.

00:30:39.000 Court documents where this guy was up for parole January 7th.

00:30:44.000 I guess typically if you have a sentence that's over three years or under three years, you serve half in the UK because your prisons are overcrowded, underfunded, they were talking about.

00:30:52.000 So we're going back and forth and looking at this, and we saw none of it from your news sources.

00:30:55.000 I'm going, why am I doing this legwork? 0.99

00:30:57.000 I suck at it!

00:30:59.000 Honestly, I don't know whether it's just the effect of social media or what, because the speed at which the information comes out and has to be verified is remarkably quick. 0.98

00:31:08.000 And, I mean, in their defense, the man looked exactly the same as this hate preacher. 0.94

00:31:13.000 Racist. 0.98

00:31:13.000 You know, exactly the same style of beard. 0.98

00:31:15.000 No, no, exactly the same style of beard.

00:31:16.000 Like, exactly the same haircut. 0.97

00:31:18.000 Show me an Islamic hate preacher who doesn't have that beard, Sargon. 0.99

00:31:22.000 No, no, no. 0.97

00:31:23.000 There are plenty. 0.98

00:31:24.000 See, you don't spend enough time looking at these Islamic hate preachers. 1.00

00:31:32.000 I'm a little more scared. 0.88

00:31:47.000 Yeah, but you actually had chowdery on, did you?

00:31:49.000 Yeah, we had him on before.

00:31:51.000 It was a long time ago.

00:31:54.000 And as a matter of fact, we didn't even have cameras.

00:31:55.000 This is when it was just on radio.

00:31:57.000 So we set up a camera in a room, and I asked him, like, well, okay, where do you think?

00:32:01.000 And he was like, uh, Syria, Iraq.

00:32:03.000 And I asked him if I deserve to die, and he pretty much said yes.

00:32:06.000 And a part of me had to respect it.

00:32:09.000 That was a scary interview.

00:32:10.000 He is notorious in Britain.

00:32:12.000 There's a cabal of them connected to the Finsbury Park Mosque.

00:32:16.000 They are all exactly as you think with Chowdhury. 1.00

00:32:20.000 Like, yeah, you know, all the infidels should die. 1.00

00:32:21.000 We're going to behead you all. 1.00

00:32:22.000 Sharia for everyone. 1.00

00:32:23.000 The glorious rule of the Islamic Caliphate over the world. 0.99

00:32:26.000 And you sit there thinking, even Muslims who are not sure whether they feel like they're radical Muslims or not think you're ridiculous. 0.98

00:32:34.000 You know, they... 0.98

00:32:36.000 Anyone is more credible than Chowdhury.

00:32:39.000 It's a shame that he gets so much airtime, because he represents so few people.

00:32:43.000 And that's not me trying to defend anything.

00:32:45.000 It's just a fact about Chowdhury.

00:32:47.000 He's like...

00:32:48.000 He must be like the Alex Jones of the Muslim world. 1.00

00:32:53.000 That man's a saint, you watch your mouth.

00:32:55.000 I'm not saying there isn't a special place in my heart for Alex Jones, because especially after crashing the Young Turks and making Cenk... 1.00

00:33:03.000 Oh, yes, yes, yes.

00:33:04.000 Buffalo out like that?

00:33:06.000 Definitely, he'll never not have a friend of me, I tell you.

00:33:10.000 I don't go for him to news.

00:33:13.000 In all fairness, he doesn't represent a small number of people.

00:33:16.000 He represents a small percentage of Islam.

00:33:18.000 Three to five percent of Islam is still 30 to 50 million people or so.

00:33:22.000 That's true.

00:33:22.000 That's a very large number of people.

00:33:25.000 The mindset does, but Chowdhury himself, he's not a greatly influential man.

00:33:30.000 He's not like a great Muslim thinker. 1.00

00:33:32.000 Because you've got to remember that there's a community of these people, like an international Muslim community.

00:33:37.000 They travel around, they do their speeches, and they have large audiences.

00:33:41.000 And most of the time, they're a lot more moderate and rational.

00:33:45.000 I mean, there are some, like Mufti Menk, who preaches about human rights, and that's not an Islamic concept.

00:33:51.000 So it's interesting how these sort of thoughts from the West have seeped into the mainstream of Muslim...

00:33:58.000 But the fact that you say that, though, is very telling.

00:34:01.000 Like you said, it's not really an Islamic concept.

00:34:02.000 As a matter of fact, charity to those outside of Islam is almost entirely foreign to the religion.

00:34:08.000 It's one of the big defining factors.

00:34:10.000 If you look at global charity on behalf of Islam to people who aren't Muslims...

00:34:14.000 It just doesn't happen.

00:34:15.000 It's statistically negligible.

00:34:17.000 But yeah, like we were saying with Anjim Chowdhury, I mean, you know, we had him on because, like you said, there still are a lot of people, A, who are asking to have him on, and like you said, still tens of millions of people who believe just that.

00:34:27.000 It's a lot more worrying than the Westboro Baptists. 0.98

00:34:29.000 There are a lot of people who believe the sort of...

00:34:32.000 Salafist sort of narrative that he always espouses.

00:34:34.000 But these people aren't generally in the West.

00:34:38.000 And when they come to the West, they set up the extremist mosques, basically. 0.98

00:34:42.000 Well, you have a lot of them, though, in the UK. I mean, you have 50,000 downloads of the ISIS training manual.

00:34:48.000 I think that's 50,000 too many.

00:34:49.000 Okay, that's worth addressing because you don't know who's downloading that.

00:34:53.000 I mean, I'm the sort of person who would download it because I would want to know what's in it.

00:34:56.000 I don't think you're the target demographic.

00:34:58.000 If I'm being fair, that's true.

00:35:00.000 Let's say 30%.

00:35:01.000 You don't know how many other people weren't being inquiring citizens.

00:35:04.000 Okay, let's just say the 10%.

00:35:05.000 I'm going to educate myself on what they're saying.

00:35:07.000 Let's say 10% are terrorist curious.

00:35:09.000 I think that's a reason.

00:35:10.000 It's still a lot.

00:35:11.000 Is that like bi-curious?

00:35:12.000 I agree that it's still a lot, but...

00:35:14.000 Again, you know, it's not that big a number compared to the actual number of Muslims in Britain.

00:35:20.000 We've got 3 million Muslims here, so only 50,000 downloads.

00:35:23.000 That is actually a really small number.

00:35:25.000 So it's important not to blow these sort of things out of proportion as well.

00:35:28.000 And I think more importantly, like...

00:35:30.000 I'm not a big fan of collective punishments, obviously.

00:35:33.000 It's one of the reasons I oppose the regressive left. 0.64

00:35:37.000 There are plenty of stages along the path that you end up becoming a radical terrorist that you can be talked down from at that point.

00:35:51.000 The problem is when you have these sort of I don't want to call them enclaves, but I can't think of a better word, where you don't really have much interaction with the native British culture outside of them.

00:36:01.000 That's multicultural.

00:36:03.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:36:04.000 It's not.

00:36:05.000 The people within them don't feel inclined to, say, report this sort of thing to the authorities.

00:36:09.000 We were talking about that earlier.

00:36:09.000 I do think multiculturalism, and we were talking about this last time, I would wonder if your opinion has changed.

00:36:13.000 It doesn't sound like it has, but we were talking about this earlier in the program, that secularism, as you said, you're like, eh, it's much more secular here in Europe, creates a vacuum, and Islam is looking to fill it, and they're much more successful filling a vacuum there than you see in the United States of America right now.

00:36:28.000 And that's why you see much more radicalization in Europe.

00:36:30.000 Now, is it every Muslim? 0.92

00:36:31.000 No, but it's a much higher percentage than the United States.

00:36:35.000 And I think...

00:36:36.000 We're at a real kind of crossroads here where it seems like a lot of people are concerned and there's, on the one hand, you want to be tolerant.

00:36:43.000 On the other hand, you have to be realistic about the threat that you're facing.

00:36:46.000 But I know, Gerald, you were about to say something.

00:36:48.000 Sorry, Gerald here is, I don't know if we call him a philosopher, a theologian.

00:36:52.000 He's on the other side of the coin, but he knows a lot about Islam.

00:36:54.000 You've taught rudimentary courses.

00:36:56.000 I think the problem, though, is that it's an ideology.

00:36:58.000 That's what I think.

00:37:00.000 It is a religion and a political ideology.

00:37:03.000 And until Muslims agree to secularize themselves from the political side of it, then it's always going to be a problem. 1.00

00:37:09.000 And you are always going to get in Muslim communities people who are Islamists. 0.97

00:37:14.000 I'm sure there's a certain kind of character of person, type of person, who just is attracted to that sort of thing.

00:37:19.000 Sure.

00:37:19.000 And it provides a ready-made platform for that.

00:37:22.000 Hold on, what were you saying, Joe?

00:37:22.000 What's the problem?

00:37:23.000 I was going to say, I mean, I definitely understand your point.

00:37:26.000 I think with Islam, you have a religion, though.

00:37:28.000 If you go back to the books, and we've talked about this in a number of videos that we've done.

00:37:31.000 If you go back to the book and the founder and look at what they tell you to do, it doesn't surprise me that there are a large number of Muslims that have been radicalized.

00:37:40.000 And even larger circle outside of that is people who are okay with that number being radicalized.

00:37:44.000 They won't necessarily do things themselves.

00:37:46.000 That's the problem that I have.

00:37:47.000 And let's take two comparisons.

00:37:49.000 Let's say that Christians infiltrated government. 0.99

00:37:51.000 And Muslims infiltrated government, right, in Islam. 0.99

00:37:54.000 Which one would actually have a good or bad effect?

00:37:57.000 I think we've seen in some countries where they're controlled by Islamic governments what is going on over there, right? 1.00

00:38:02.000 The Sharia law and things like that that are happening.

00:38:04.000 I don't know that there's a bad example that you can use, maybe historically a little bit, but not currently, of Christians being in government that are kind of oppressing their citizens. 1.00

00:38:13.000 To Sargon's point, though, it's also...

00:38:15.000 I'm not sure the framing of that's too accurate.

00:38:17.000 Well, you wanted to have...

00:38:19.000 Religion out of politics. 0.97

00:38:20.000 Countries that have Sharia law, it's overwhelmingly supported by the native population.

00:38:25.000 Yes.

00:38:25.000 It's not like it's a Muslim cabal that have infiltrated.

00:38:28.000 No, no, no.

00:38:28.000 I agree one second.

00:38:29.000 It's overwhelmingly supported by Muslims in your country as well.

00:38:33.000 It's supported by an overwhelming number of Muslims in the UK who still do support Sharia law in the UK if given the opportunity.

00:38:38.000 It's overwhelming, but it is a very large percentage.

00:38:41.000 It's large enough to be concerning.

00:38:42.000 It's something like 35-40% or something, if I recall correctly.

00:38:45.000 But, I mean, that's a disturbing number.

00:38:47.000 Yes.

00:38:51.000 So they can, you know, want what they want because they're never going to get it.

00:38:55.000 The problem is when they implement it in their own communities and it ends up violating the rights of women, British citizens who are also female.

00:39:02.000 And that's something the government has been inquiring into.

00:39:05.000 Although I haven't followed it up, so I don't know exactly what the inquiry found.

00:39:08.000 But undoubtedly there are going to be women in those communities who are having their rights violated. 1.00

00:39:13.000 Lots of fat lips. 0.69

00:39:14.000 Lots of fat lips.

00:39:16.000 And poorly made sandwiches.

00:39:17.000 Well, you know, one thing, too, we had...

00:39:18.000 Poorly made falafel.

00:39:19.000 Yes, poorly made falafel.

00:39:20.000 That's racist.

00:39:21.000 We don't accept racism on this show.

00:39:23.000 Only sexism and blatant homophobia, Sargon.

00:39:26.000 Read the handbook.

00:39:30.000 You can't win with Crowder, can you?

00:39:31.000 Well, you're actually funny, interesting tidbit.

00:39:33.000 As an aside, you were talking about the name Sargon.

00:39:36.000 Yeah, no, look, I mean, you seem like the kind of guy, honestly, that you're looking for truth, and I've looked at a lot of your stuff, and I really appreciate that, right?

00:39:43.000 it, right?

00:39:43.000 I have differing opinions, obviously, but I respect people that have different views.

00:39:47.000 And so I just thought it was really interesting, the name that you chose.

00:39:51.000 Like, I knew Akkad, and I knew kind of the Sumerian city-state part of that.

00:39:54.000 For some reason, I remembered that from high school, about Kish, Eric, and Ur fighting each other, then Akkad going and attacking them and kind of taking...

00:40:00.000 You did that in high school.

00:40:01.000 From high school.

00:40:01.000 My high school history...

00:40:02.000 I'm a history buff, too.

00:40:03.000 But I think a lot of the conversations that people like you and I would have end up becoming gotcha moments, where I either know more than you about one particular subject, or you know one particular subject, and it's not really beneficial.

00:40:14.000 I think what C.S. Lewis did actually was really interesting, is that they had a meeting every week.

00:40:20.000 They would have a point of view from, say, a Christian theologian, and then they would have a differing point of view from somebody else.

00:40:25.000 It didn't have to be an atheist.

00:40:25.000 It could be an agnostic or somebody else the week after.

00:40:28.000 And so I'd love to do that with you personally.

00:40:30.000 I don't even care if it ends up on air or anything like that.

00:40:32.000 It'd be kind of fun just to jog back and forth.

00:40:34.000 But looking at your name, Sargon Avakad, I know the name Sargon, right?

00:40:39.000 He was a king there.

00:40:39.000 But it actually, it was never called Sargon.

00:40:42.000 It was called something a little bit different.

00:40:44.000 And then until the Hebrews actually put it in the Bible, it's in Isaiah 20, verse 1, is where the name Sargon comes from.

00:40:50.000 And that's the first time it was actually called Sargon.

00:40:52.000 It was referred to as something else.

00:40:53.000 Same person they were referring to, but you know how they can have different names in Hebrew versus, you know, kind of the same language.

00:40:59.000 But I thought it was funny.

00:41:00.000 Are you sure?

00:41:00.000 Because I heard that apparently Nimrod was his representation in the Bible.

00:41:05.000 No, it literally says Sargon of Assyria, which obviously Assyria is where he was in that area.

00:41:12.000 It might be a different Sargon they're referring to.

00:41:15.000 I don't know.

00:41:15.000 There's a Sargon II, who is the king of Assyria.

00:41:18.000 This one said one.

00:41:20.000 This one said one.

00:41:21.000 So it was very interesting, anyway, that it was from the Bible.

00:41:23.000 Yeah, it's undoubtedly mentioned because of the Assyrian Emperor.

00:41:28.000 Yeah, it's good.

00:41:29.000 Interesting.

00:41:29.000 I'm just curious, too.

00:41:30.000 Why'd you choose the name Sargon of Akkad?

00:41:33.000 I just like the historical figure.

00:41:35.000 I like the myth of it.

00:41:36.000 Yeah.

00:41:38.000 Because the Sargon legend is the Moses legend, just far earlier. 0.62

00:41:43.000 And so Baby washes up on the banks of the Euphrates in a reed basket covered in bitumen and is raised by a gardener and ends up becoming the king and ends up conquering this giant empire.

00:41:54.000 It's quite a rags-to-riches story, really, isn't it?

00:41:56.000 We can all identify with that, right?

00:41:58.000 Was that where he said, bargement?

00:42:00.000 Sorry?

00:42:00.000 Was that where he said, covered in bargement?

00:42:02.000 I didn't hear the word.

00:42:03.000 A bitumen.

00:42:04.000 Did you just call me something?

00:42:06.000 I was sitting there and I was like, a bitumen.

00:42:09.000 We don't cover babies in a bitumen anymore.

00:42:12.000 Well, the basket was covered in bitumen to waterproof it.

00:42:16.000 Yeah.

00:42:16.000 Also not a lot of sure of them.

00:42:18.000 So, and this is a really important question, and this is going to piss Stephen off, and this is the only reason...

00:42:22.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:42:22.000 This comes from, like, Gerald, who's been on the show before, and I remember we talked about it, and he was just like, I really like this Sargon.

00:42:27.000 I know he's an atheist, but he seems like the kind of guy I could talk about.

00:42:29.000 Reasonable guy!

00:42:30.000 Well, yeah, and we've talked about this.

00:42:31.000 Sargon and I have talked about this.

00:42:32.000 These conversations don't occur on YouTube very often.

00:42:34.000 No.

00:42:34.000 It'd be like a gotcha moment.

00:42:35.000 I'd come up with some random fact that maybe somebody hadn't heard of, and he'd come up with some random fact, and that would be what most people do.

00:42:41.000 And nobody would really learn anything, and we'd just try to make ourselves look better.

00:42:44.000 But I am a soccer fan, and I know you call it football.

00:42:48.000 Do you have a particular club that's your favorite?

00:42:50.000 No, I'm not a soccer fan.

00:42:53.000 Oh, jeez.

00:42:54.000 Come on! 0.61

00:42:55.000 You know what? 0.98

00:42:57.000 That's bullcrap right there. 0.95

00:42:59.000 I'm just not into it. 0.93

00:43:00.000 You're an hour outside of London.

00:43:01.000 You live in the UK. You were like Hillary Clinton trying to cater to blacks with hot sauce only with a European in soccer and you just got checked. 0.51

00:43:08.000 That's BS. Basically, one thing is you're being really racist right now. 0.97

00:43:14.000 How did this turn so quickly?

00:43:16.000 I like soccer.

00:43:17.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:18.000 I don't get it either.

00:43:19.000 I think it's a horrible sport.

00:43:20.000 It's not a horrible sport.

00:43:21.000 It's a sport of the gods.

00:43:22.000 This is not true.

00:43:23.000 No, it's not.

00:43:24.000 It's true.

00:43:25.000 I was like, you know what?

00:43:26.000 I don't know if this is a historical reference, but I'm pretty sure soccer is rather modern.

00:43:31.000 What are they, kicking around rock?

00:43:32.000 I don't think that happens.

00:43:34.000 It's not modern, Steve.

00:43:35.000 It's not modern.

00:43:36.000 It's really, really old.

00:43:37.000 I'm sure the idea of kicking something around, but I mean, this modern sport, soccer...

00:43:41.000 No, no, no.

00:43:43.000 In the 13th century, it was banned because it was distracting people from their artery practice.

00:43:48.000 Yeah.

00:43:48.000 That's pretty modern, though.

00:43:49.000 It's because you have to shoot people to live.

00:43:51.000 I'm not saying 13th century.

00:43:52.000 I'm talking about that's pretty modern as far as human history.

00:43:55.000 Well, yeah, that's 700 years ago.

00:43:57.000 It's not modern.

00:43:58.000 Things have changed since then.

00:44:00.000 I think that's pretty modern.

00:44:03.000 My point is you weren't talking about people.

00:44:04.000 You weren't talking about cavemen thousands of years ago where they had hieroglyphics.

00:44:08.000 And then he scored a goal here, and then we had this Egyptian guy sacrificed a baby. 0.76

00:44:14.000 Why does all of a sudden you have the long goal thing going on?

00:44:17.000 The point is, I hate soccer.

00:44:18.000 Anyone can kick on a tin can into a thing and say it's a sport.

00:44:22.000 I thought I had a friend in Sargon here, and I don't, apparently.

00:44:25.000 Can you just make it up?

00:44:26.000 Couldn't you just throw a name out there just to piss Steven off?

00:44:28.000 I actually can't.

00:44:28.000 I paid so little attention to it that I literally couldn't tell you anything about it.

00:44:33.000 Frank Lampard, I think, is a football player.

00:44:35.000 I've heard that name before.

00:44:38.000 Jared's just sitting here watching unfold.

00:44:40.000 What do you think's going to...

00:44:41.000 What was your reaction to the London mayor?

00:44:46.000 Sadiq Khan?

00:44:46.000 Sadiq Khan.

00:44:48.000 Saying what?

00:44:51.000 Well, obviously they trotted out the statement from six months ago, which I thought was telling.

00:44:55.000 I still think it's horrible, but that's not his statement today.

00:44:57.000 But I do feel as though there's a notable difference in handling of it.

00:45:01.000 We talked about this earlier.

00:45:01.000 If you compare him versus Giuliani, sort of speaking from a point of – and to go back to that point, I think multiculturalism.

00:45:08.000 Which is a European value, it's not an American value, we're a melting pot, a societal melting pot, allows for this kind of radicalism to happen at that rate. 0.95

00:45:15.000 And so it seems when you look at the way he's handling this, it's from the angle of, oh, hold on, hold on, multiculturalism, hashtag not all Muslims, whereas in the United States after 9-11 we're like, we're going to find these bastards and we're going to unify against a common enemy. 0.95

00:45:29.000 Yeah, the problem is we're very politically correct over here. 0.98

00:45:35.000 And it's frustrating.

00:45:36.000 It's...

00:45:38.000 Anyone who's not is essentially branded as a racist by the mainstream.

00:45:43.000 And it's very unpleasant.

00:45:45.000 And Sadiq Khan is just part of that.

00:45:47.000 It's the water he swims in.

00:45:49.000 So, I mean, if you listen to his statement about it, you will learn nothing from it.

00:45:53.000 You will learn nothing about anything.

00:45:55.000 It's just politicians speak.

00:45:56.000 He speaks for two minutes and says nothing.

00:45:59.000 You know, everyone then moves on with their day.

00:46:02.000 I do feel kind of sorry for him because, like, with the statement from last September where he said that it's just part and parcel of being in a big city, I mean, to a degree that's true, but it's really...

00:46:14.000 it's almost like taking the attacks out of context when he says it.

00:46:18.000 Because it's like, yes, okay, but these things weren't acts of God.

00:46:21.000 They didn't just fall out of the sky.

00:46:22.000 We know who was doing the attacks and why they were doing the attacks, and these attacks continue.

00:46:28.000 And it wasn't always like this.

00:46:30.000 So even if you want to be like, well, this is just normality now, it's like, that's great.

00:46:36.000 But they don't seem to realize that there are lots of people outside of their little bubble.

00:46:42.000 They're sort of like what you would consider like coastal elites, the sort of media elites, left-wing intelligentsia.

00:46:50.000 I mean, I think you would have thought that Trump and Brexit would have woken them up to the fact that there are actually millions of people outside of their frame of reference that don't agree with anything they're saying.

00:47:00.000 Yeah.

00:47:00.000 But they're still not listening.

00:47:01.000 They still live in this land of delusion.

00:47:03.000 And Wilders didn't win in the Netherlands, but they expected him to.

00:47:07.000 Right. 1.00

00:47:08.000 Because the fear of Trump and Brexit had, I think, really pushed it to the fore that they know that they're just desperately sitting on top of a simmering pot that's about to explode with people going, look, it's the fucking Muslims. 1.00

00:47:18.000 Right. 1.00

00:47:19.000 There are loads of people like that.

00:47:21.000 There are loads of people.

00:47:22.000 And it's not that, like, technically they're not wrong, but they're not exactly going to be the sort of people you want in control of any kind of transition in the future.

00:47:32.000 And to make sure that these people get their fears alleviated, and they deserve to, you know, they've done nothing wrong.

00:47:39.000 And without having something terrible happen, that means the people who are in the sort of center and the center left need to accept that you can't just call people racist to make these fears go away and that you have to actually address the f***ing issues.

00:47:53.000 You know, they have to they actually have to stop going.

00:47:56.000 But that's a racist thing to say and just.

00:47:59.000 Okay, what can be done?

00:48:01.000 And I'm not even saying, like, deport all Muslims or anything like that.

00:48:03.000 I'm just saying, stop pretending. 0.94

00:48:06.000 Because, you know, the amount of times, it's like, well, I mean, if they're a terrorist, then they're not a Muslim.

00:48:12.000 It's like, you can't do that.

00:48:13.000 You can't just define. 0.87

00:48:15.000 What is it about apostasy that makes so many Muslims go on killing sprees then? 0.97

00:48:20.000 Why are all these apostate Muslims declaring it by murdering people? 1.00

00:48:24.000 Obviously, it's not that they're apostatizing from the faith. 0.93

00:48:27.000 It's that they are taking their faith to its extreme conclusions.

00:48:31.000 And you want to prevent people from doing that.

00:48:32.000 And it's obviously eminently doable.

00:48:35.000 But you have to be able to have an honest conversation about what the steps are leading up to that.

00:48:39.000 They won't do it.

00:48:40.000 That is the stat that is a significant majority and the most shocking that the amount of Muslims globally who believe in death for apostasy, even in the Western side, it is a majority and it's very scary.

00:48:51.000 It's a part of their eschatology.

00:48:52.000 Well, it's a part of their eschatology. 0.86

00:48:54.000 No matter what branch of Islam that you kind of come from, eventually you either convert or you die. 0.54

00:49:00.000 And it's not a holy God making a judgment.

00:49:03.000 It is man, fallible man, making a judgment on other fallible men.

00:49:06.000 That's not necessarily fair.

00:49:07.000 I mean, they have the jizya for the dimmies.

00:49:10.000 It's not that the sub-races and sub-religions can't exist.

00:49:15.000 No, it absolutely means that.

00:49:17.000 When that jizya tax goes away, and it does in their eschatological views, it goes away when the Mahdi comes and Jesus is his second in command. 0.97

00:49:25.000 You either convert or die. 0.97

00:49:26.000 It's totally in their Islamic eschatology. 0.96

00:49:28.000 We're talking about a doomsday prophecy.

00:49:30.000 No, we're talking about the end of the book, which every Christian is going to point to Revelation and say, this is how it ends.

00:49:35.000 Every Muslim is going to point to the end of their book and say, this is how it ends. 1.00

00:49:38.000 This is how we think things end.

00:49:40.000 That's the natural end.

00:49:41.000 I'm not saying they're doing it right now and trying to bring that about.

00:49:43.000 There is apocalyptic Islam out there. 1.00

00:49:46.000 The proposed ending of these books will never arrive, so we don't have to worry about that.

00:49:49.000 Well, no, that's not necessarily true.

00:49:51.000 So I understand that you don't like ideologies, but these people live...

00:49:54.000 I'm fond of ideologies.

00:49:55.000 I know, and that's totally reasonable, too.

00:49:56.000 I'm not saying that's an unreasonable point.

00:49:58.000 I'm saying that the people that you're talking about do like ideologies.

00:50:01.000 They think that this is how it's going to end.

00:50:03.000 Right.

00:50:03.000 And that belief actually shapes their behavior today.

00:50:06.000 So when people are in apocalyptic Islam, they believe most of the Iranians that you think are radicalized...

00:50:12.000 Follow this kind of Islam where they believe they have to do certain acts to bring about the end of the world. 1.00

00:50:34.000 Right, and so what you're saying then is you think that there are a lot of the radical Muslims who, you know, not just the Islamists we're talking about, because they're the people who want Sharia law, they want Islamic control of countries and people's personal lives and whatnot.

00:50:48.000 You're not talking about those people, you're talking about the sort of people who blow themselves up.

00:50:52.000 You think that they're doing it to help bring about the end-time prophecy?

00:50:56.000 I think apocalyptic Islam. 1.00

00:50:58.000 When you're talking about certain sects within Islam, they do it for that.

00:51:01.000 The other reason is because there's no way...

00:51:03.000 So if I'm a Christian, right?

00:51:04.000 Worst case scenario, I waste my time, right?

00:51:06.000 I live a deluded life.

00:51:08.000 Hopefully it's full of good works and nice things, right?

00:51:11.000 But I live a deluded life.

00:51:12.000 I die and there's nothing, right?

00:51:13.000 In Islam, if they believe that they really are going to die and face judgment, the only absolute way to go to heaven is to die in jihad. 0.98

00:51:20.000 The only absolute way.

00:51:22.000 And if I held the belief...

00:51:24.000 That Allah was God and that Muhammad was his prophet. 0.99

00:51:26.000 I would absolutely be scared to death that I would get there and I would have more good works than bad.

00:51:31.000 But at the end of the day, it comes down to the mood of Allah.

00:51:33.000 You have no idea.

00:51:34.000 And so, no wonder they're blowing themselves up.

00:51:37.000 Sometimes it's kind of a bit.

00:51:39.000 Sometimes it's not going to be a good day to go.

00:51:41.000 You've got to pick good.

00:51:42.000 That is, I remember when I went to my Muslim...

00:51:44.000 It's an interesting thing how so many of these jihadists are...

00:51:48.000 People who did not lead very Islamic lives.

00:51:51.000 And I think that's really confusing secularists.

00:51:53.000 I think they're finding that really bizarre.

00:51:55.000 And I've tried pointing this out in my videos, actually, when I've done videos about it.

00:52:00.000 I think that this might be the sort of Islamic version of being a born-again Christian.

00:52:04.000 Well, hold on.

00:52:05.000 Born-again Christians aren't going out and blowing themselves up.

00:52:07.000 It might be a good example.

00:52:09.000 Maybe this is like Godfather III when Michael Corleone gives $20 billion to the Catholic Church to absolve himself.

00:52:15.000 Maybe that's a better example.

00:52:17.000 I'm not attacking Christianity.

00:52:19.000 What I mean is throwing yourself into the faith.

00:52:23.000 For Christians, they become very Christian. 0.99

00:52:25.000 for Muslims, they might become terrorists. 1.00

00:52:29.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:52:30.000 And I'm not saying all of them are like this or anything, but I think it's the same motivation that drives them.

00:52:34.000 They think that they've been neglecting their faith and they haven't done the spiritual duty.

00:52:38.000 And then they look back and they've been like, "Christ, I've been eating pork, I've been fornicating, I've been drinking." I love that you started with pork.

00:52:44.000 No, no.

00:52:45.000 These are all prohibitions.

00:52:48.000 No, I know.

00:52:48.000 I'm just saying it's funny.

00:52:50.000 And they sit there and go, okay, well, I mean, I could redeem myself via jihad.

00:52:54.000 And that's a legitimate method.

00:52:56.000 And I think that is the problem.

00:52:57.000 I mean, in the Bible, there is no legitimacy to a holy war.

00:53:01.000 There's no legitimacy for killing for the name of Jesus.

00:53:03.000 Which is why the Orthodox patriarchs completely opposed it when the Pope was recommending crusades.

00:53:09.000 And it's something people don't know.

00:53:11.000 Thank you.

00:53:12.000 Yes, it's true.

00:53:12.000 But it is absolutely justified in the Quran, so...

00:53:15.000 Yeah.

00:53:16.000 Well, I think also something interesting, we do have to go, so I... Oh, come on!

00:53:19.000 No, I know. 0.89

00:53:20.000 But it's interesting that a lot of people go, well, these weren't really Muslims, as you can see, they're hypocrites, because the 9-11 hijackers, for example, spent their night in a strip club and they were drinking, or you can find... 0.96

00:53:28.000 Maybe they're going to have their sins absolved. 0.96

00:53:30.000 Exactly.

00:53:30.000 They actually proactively plan, we're like...

00:53:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:53:33.000 I'm going to kill myself, but before, it's going to be one hell of a party, and I'm going to blow off the ladies' hip bones. 1.00

00:53:38.000 I will say this. 0.98

00:53:39.000 I love talking to you, man.

00:53:40.000 It was a good conversation, and I'd love to do it again sometime, even if it's offline.

00:53:44.000 You hijacked me.

00:53:44.000 I'm the host.

00:53:44.000 I'm just saying before you take over...

00:53:46.000 We can go another time.

00:53:47.000 I'll get you guys on my podcast or something when we have more time.

00:53:50.000 Yeah.

00:53:51.000 Yeah.

00:53:51.000 Just hammer out stuff.

00:53:52.000 Now I'll let Steven say goodbye.

00:53:54.000 Good lord.

00:53:54.000 You can just edit that.

00:53:55.000 I'm the host.

00:53:56.000 You can carry on on your podcast now, Steven.

00:53:57.000 Bye.

00:54:01.000 Sargon of a Cad.

00:54:02.000 You can follow him on YouTube.

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00:54:08.000 Sargon of a Cad.

00:54:09.000 Sorry, I didn't want to leave that as the last thing.

00:54:11.000 Guilty as charged.

00:54:14.000 Sorry?

00:54:15.000 It's only everyone I want to piss off the right kind of people.

00:54:17.000 Yes.

00:54:18.000 And thanks so much for being with us, and we'll have you back, of course.

00:54:22.000 And, oh, Jim Norton, I think we have coming up next.

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00:58:09.000 All right.

00:58:11.000 Glad to have this next guest.

00:58:12.000 He is possibly the most flaky guest who I've wanted to have on the show behind the scenes.

00:58:16.000 I don't know how many times we've booked and rebooked him.

00:58:18.000 His special is out now on Netflix.

00:58:20.000 His stand-up special, Mouthful of Shame, warning to people who haven't seen him before.

00:58:26.000 It's certainly not for the faint of heart, but it is hilarious.

00:58:28.000 Jim Norton, thank you for being with us, sir.

00:58:30.000 Thank you, Steven.

00:58:31.000 Yeah, I'm sorry it was so hard to schedule.

00:58:32.000 We kept scheduling and redoing it, but I'm happy we're finally doing this.

00:58:36.000 That's okay.

00:58:37.000 I'm really glad to do it.

00:58:37.000 You just kept blowing me off.

00:58:38.000 It's okay.

00:58:39.000 No, I'm really bad, dude.

00:58:40.000 I think my memory is going.

00:58:43.000 Sometimes on the podcast, my memory, dude, I literally have to be reminded of everything.

00:58:48.000 I'm like, the only thing I can remember is my act.

00:58:50.000 Like, anything else I forget.

00:58:52.000 It doesn't help that you're on there with Matt Serra, too, because he just shoots off in a new tangent.

00:58:55.000 No, no, seriously, bro.

00:58:57.000 Last time when I knocked that guy out, bro.

00:58:58.000 And you're like, what happened?

00:58:59.000 And then he's talking about some enchilada he had.

00:59:01.000 Matt is all over the place.

00:59:03.000 His synopses are always fiery.

00:59:05.000 Jimmy Norton!

00:59:07.000 He's such a fun guy, though.

00:59:08.000 He probably is the most popular guy in mixed martial arts.

00:59:11.000 He's a really lovely dude.

00:59:12.000 You know, it's actually funny.

00:59:13.000 One of my first jiu-jitsu instructors in New York, by the way, for people listening, Jimmy Norton, people watching.

00:59:18.000 We met on Red Eye a long time ago, right?

00:59:20.000 Many years ago.

00:59:21.000 Red Eye, the comedy seller.

00:59:23.000 I know you a long time.

00:59:24.000 I don't have cable.

00:59:26.000 Are you still doing Red Eye regularly now?

00:59:28.000 I know it's kind of shifted.

00:59:30.000 I was doing it only on Mondays.

00:59:32.000 I would do it every Monday for a couple of years.

00:59:34.000 But then, like, I didn't want to be a Fox consultant because, look, I understand my act is.

00:59:39.000 I'm harsh.

00:59:40.000 Fox doesn't want to be married to me publicly.

00:59:41.000 I don't blame them.

00:59:42.000 Yeah.

00:59:43.000 But then, like, when they wouldn't pay me anything to come in, I'm like, you could just pay me the minimum consultant.

00:59:47.000 Like, whatever the minimum.

00:59:48.000 Yeah.

00:59:49.000 Because I'm sitting around the room and I'm like, I write a lot of jokes for this, and I'm the only guy in the room not getting paid.

00:59:54.000 What am I doing?

00:59:55.000 Right. 1.00

00:59:55.000 I'm like a dumb prostitute. 1.00

00:59:57.000 I'm just showing up and getting nothing. 1.00

01:00:01.000 Will this make you love me now, Roger Ailes?

01:00:04.000 Can I be motorboater next to Megyn Kelly?

01:00:07.000 Well, hey, look, if I knew that would have worked, believe me, I would have thrown some pumps and marched backwards into his office.

01:00:12.000 You know what, Abbott?

01:00:13.000 I actually never met Roger.

01:00:15.000 I was just told he doesn't like you.

01:00:16.000 He doesn't think you're funny.

01:00:18.000 Really?

01:00:18.000 And then I found out that he thought what was really funny was this monkey on roller skates they wanted to put into a Fox business show.

01:00:24.000 And I was like, well, I guess I don't feel half bad about it.

01:00:26.000 But yeah, I remember that.

01:00:28.000 You know, Red Eye had a lot of prep.

01:00:29.000 prep, we were just talking about this, where a lot of these other shows, they'll do like these pre-interview interviews, and I'm not comfortable with that, because A, it's not reality when you're watching it, especially with a political show.

01:00:41.000 It's like, yeah, show us all your cards, and then we'll bring you on to chat with Bill Maher, whoever it is.

01:00:46.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:00:47.000 They asked me to do something on it.

01:00:49.000 It might have been Cuomo's show on CNN. I don't remember it.

01:00:51.000 Oh, the pool boy in chief.

01:00:54.000 Yeah, I don't remember what they wanted from me, but they were like, well, you're not as conservative as we thought.

01:00:59.000 Like, I don't really, I won't line up with anybody's, like, if they want me to say something on Fox& Friends or if they want me to say this, it's like, I don't like to plan.

01:01:06.000 If some things Trump does, I like.

01:01:08.000 Some things I think stink.

01:01:09.000 Like everything else, you kind of go back and forth.

01:01:12.000 I don't want to just have to give a certain answer to be on a show.

01:01:15.000 Well, I think you were considered more conservative for a while because during that spell at Fox, people didn't appear on Fox News.

01:01:21.000 Like, oh, you appeared on Fox News, and you were one of the first who was just willing to and weren't necessarily conservative or certainly wouldn't line up with a lot of the hosts there at Fox.

01:01:30.000 Now, people, it's kind of accepted.

01:01:32.000 I think with the web, things are so fragmented.

01:01:34.000 Did you get a lot of backlash, though, when you did it, I mean, early on?

01:01:37.000 Well, you know, maybe a little bit, but I think if you have conviction on why you're doing something, let them say what they want.

01:01:44.000 I mean, I enjoyed it.

01:01:45.000 I liked Greg Gutfeld.

01:01:47.000 I think Greg is funny.

01:01:48.000 And you know what?

01:01:48.000 They let comedians be funny.

01:01:50.000 Fox never once, however they editorialize news the same way every other network does, they never once came to me and said, hey, that doesn't fit in line with what we want.

01:01:59.000 They would just go with anything.

01:02:00.000 They never cared.

01:02:01.000 They never made me send in my jokes.

01:02:03.000 That's because they didn't pay you.

01:02:04.000 I got called in specifically That's a good point.

01:02:07.000 I call it a second floor specifically for, like, they read it from HuffPo.

01:02:11.000 Jared, you know this story.

01:02:12.000 They said, did you make a joke about raping Ashley Judd?

01:02:15.000 I said, what?

01:02:16.000 No, I did not.

01:02:18.000 And I knew exactly what it was.

01:02:19.000 Ashley Judd had just talked to business.

01:02:22.000 She was, you know, she's just out of her mind, Ashley Judd.

01:02:24.000 We all know this.

01:02:24.000 So now I feel vindicated after the women's march because everyone's going like, that Ashley She doesn't choose when she gets her period.

01:02:33.000 I don't know.

01:02:34.000 Have you seen that clip of her saying that?

01:02:36.000 No.

01:02:37.000 Oh my god.

01:02:38.000 We can't bring it up while he's on.

01:02:41.000 We have that thing on a morphine drip on here.

01:02:43.000 She was at the Women's March and she was reading slam poetry and it was like she tried to hit the emphasis and she's like, we don't choose!

01:02:50.000 When we get our periods!

01:02:52.000 And it's just the most uncomfortable.

01:02:54.000 Yeah, I did actually see that.

01:02:55.000 The slam poem.

01:02:56.000 We made fun of that on the radio show.

01:03:00.000 I forgot she did a slam. 0.99

01:03:01.000 Slam poetry is really bad if you're 21 and good at it.

01:03:05.000 Yes! 0.96

01:03:06.000 When you're 55 and you suck at it, it's just, it's really uncomfortable. 0.97

01:03:10.000 Yeah, I remember I showed up to an... 0.99

01:03:12.000 I'm nasty!

01:03:12.000 Like my bloodstains on my bed sheets, we don't actually choose!

01:03:18.000 Oh! 0.60

01:03:22.000 She seems like one of those claims in the Rudolph special.

01:03:25.000 She thinks I'm cute! 0.93

01:03:26.000 Only talking about menstruation.

01:03:29.000 That's uncomfortable.

01:03:30.000 It is very uncomfortable.

01:03:32.000 Exactly.

01:03:33.000 You're Jim Norton and you're uncomfortable with that.

01:03:35.000 I really am.

01:03:35.000 That's like a Howard Dean moment.

01:03:37.000 You just watch it and you collapse inside.

01:03:40.000 You're like, oh my god, that will never go away.

01:03:43.000 I know.

01:03:45.000 And she did it willingly.

01:03:47.000 I mean, that's where they're so out of touch, like the super far left now.

01:03:51.000 I mean, that's the crazy thing.

01:03:52.000 When I met you and I met Ant, you know, there at Fox, it didn't really matter to me whether you were conservative.

01:03:57.000 And I was like, oh, we can connect on this level.

01:03:59.000 And I just, I always had a really hard time, probably because I'm in the entertainment industry since I was so young, being surrounded by these insane people like the Ashley Judds.

01:04:08.000 It just seems like there's an incapability.

01:04:10.000 I don't know if you see this in the comedy world, for the left to just connect together.

01:04:16.000 sometimes on a human level because it's just pure insanity.

01:04:20.000 Everything is offensive now.

01:04:21.000 Everything is offensive.

01:04:23.000 That's got to be hard for a guy like you who, I mean, you're pretty offensive right out of the chute.

01:04:27.000 Yeah.

01:04:28.000 Well, it's hard for them to get me on anything because I'm talking about my own life and my own experiences and it's like, hey, you go out and admit the stuff I admit. 0.92

01:04:36.000 If not, shut your faces. 0.97

01:04:38.000 You really can't nail me on it because I'm not trying to be offensive. 0.97

01:04:42.000 I don't think any of it's offensive.

01:04:44.000 So yeah, sometimes comedians have to remember, we've got to at least attempt to be funny.

01:04:49.000 Political humor is great, talk about it, but I'm not out, dude.

01:04:52.000 I'm not going to change one opinion.

01:04:54.000 My job is to try to be funny and hopefully people understand why I feel the way I feel.

01:04:59.000 That's it.

01:04:59.000 I'm not going to change anybody.

01:05:01.000 I'm not going to lecture and preach to anybody.

01:05:03.000 I'm not smarter.

01:05:04.000 But we all line up and it seems like people love Obama or they hate him.

01:05:09.000 Nobody just kind of likes him.

01:05:10.000 It's the same with Trump.

01:05:11.000 People think he's great or he's Hitler. 0.99

01:05:15.000 There's no one that will say, like, yeah, he does say a lot of stupid stuff, but hey, look, some of the stuff he's doing for jobs might make sense and Some of these ideas might make sense. 0.98

01:05:23.000 We have no ability just to judge a guy like a guy. 0.98

01:05:28.000 I wouldn't sell myself short, though, that way.

01:05:31.000 I don't know about changing opinions, but I think you change people's perceptions.

01:05:35.000 We were talking about this with Nick DiPaolo.

01:05:36.000 You mentioned this, too, at the Comedy Cellar, and I always felt this way, and you crystallized it when you were talking about the Just for Laughs, the nasty show.

01:05:43.000 Oh, the nasty.

01:05:44.000 Like, they sold it that way.

01:05:45.000 They have signs.

01:05:46.000 You know, I grew up there across the city.

01:05:47.000 I was like, just say comedy show.

01:05:49.000 Like, everything had to have a hook.

01:05:51.000 And I think if people categorize you as the nasty comic, you change perceptions because you're pretty cerebral, even in the perversion.

01:05:59.000 Well, thanks.

01:06:00.000 But, you know, I try to be, like this said, The Mouthful of Shame is dirtier than my last ones were.

01:06:06.000 It just is the way my life has been going.

01:06:08.000 There's a lot of personal stuff.

01:06:10.000 When you're single for five years, you're not going to fire out a lot of poignant political points.

01:06:14.000 I've been doing a lot of computer activity, so I talk about it.

01:06:21.000 This is why everybody's so nasty to each other on Twitter.

01:06:24.000 Nobody feels like they're being heard.

01:06:26.000 We yell at each other because nobody feels like anyone hears their opinion.

01:06:30.000 So I feel like I can express my opinion as long as I let people know, like, yeah, I have heard yours and considered it.

01:06:36.000 I don't agree with it.

01:06:37.000 People don't get as mad if you don't agree with them as they do when they feel like you're not hearing them.

01:06:42.000 So I try to let you know why I feel the way I do, and if you don't agree, so what?

01:06:45.000 I wonder if that's why you're able to be more balanced in your approach because as someone who, for whatever people think about your comedy, it's deeply, I just, for anyone who's watching, I had blood, like a whole vial of blood taking me, so I'm a little slow.

01:06:58.000 It's deeply personal.

01:06:58.000 So you actually chose when you had your period.

01:07:00.000 Yes, I chose when I had my period.

01:07:03.000 Oh, God.

01:07:04.000 Even just like referencing, I know it's just so cringy.

01:07:07.000 But it's very personal for you.

01:07:09.000 So I wonder if since your platform has kind of always been, you've sort of filleted your, I hate, it sounds so like self-important when comedians are like, I'm filleting myself for the audience.

01:07:17.000 But you've been so open personally that maybe you don't feel the need to scream to be heard because every night you get up, you're effectively being heard.

01:07:23.000 People are hearing me.

01:07:24.000 And I always felt it was my job just to be honest and try to be funny.

01:07:28.000 And that's it.

01:07:29.000 I want to be as original as I possibly can be.

01:07:32.000 And part of it is my own life is my own thing.

01:07:35.000 So I know I'm being original when I talk about my life.

01:07:37.000 That was kind of what motivated me to do it.

01:07:39.000 And I do make fun of myself because I like to make fun of myself.

01:07:42.000 That's my internal monologue just coming out. 0.99

01:07:45.000 I mean, those jokes I've done about putting a dildo between my man breasts and shooting myself, those are real thoughts I've had over the years. 0.99

01:07:53.000 I just said it on stage and people enjoyed it, but I didn't write that down. 0.99

01:07:58.000 I didn't think that'd be clever to write.

01:08:00.000 It just kind of came out and people related to the irrational self-hatred.

01:08:04.000 So if you just talk about, I think, if you're honest, people can kind of smell it, you know?

01:08:08.000 Yeah, I think people can.

01:08:09.000 And it still doesn't mean necessarily that it works.

01:08:11.000 You know, as long as it doesn't work.

01:08:12.000 I had a bit about suicide that I did, suicide by cop fire, and kind of tying it into my own mental defects.

01:08:18.000 And you tried doing that at a county Republican meeting where they brought me in for a fundraiser, you know?

01:08:23.000 Oh, Jared, were you there that one day when it got dead quiet? 0.57

01:08:27.000 I had the bit about cutting in front of the retarded kids at the pizza party. 1.00

01:08:31.000 No, but I wish I was there for that.

01:08:32.000 That sounds great.

01:08:33.000 And it's true. 0.56

01:08:33.000 It's a true story. 0.56

01:08:34.000 My wife volunteers with special needs kids.

01:08:36.000 And at one time, they have this pizza party at the end of the year.

01:08:38.000 It's a thing called Friendship Club.

01:08:40.000 And I legitimately cut in line.

01:08:42.000 And if you've never felt the fires of hell at your soul... 0.99

01:08:46.000 in front of a retarded kid at a pizza party, and I got called on it. 0.87

01:08:50.000 And so I had this bit, and it usually kills, and I just sort of was doing it at this, you know, I was in a jacket.

01:08:55.000 It was this fundraising setting, and the moment I started doing it, I saw the white hairs in the audience, and I said, oh, this is not going to go well.

01:09:03.000 Well, sometimes, you know, it's funny.

01:09:04.000 The funny thing about that is the fact that you're telling on yourself publicly. 0.86

01:09:08.000 Like, that to me is like, we all do cringy things like, oh my God, I should be executed. 0.99

01:09:13.000 But the fact that you go on stage and go, look what an ass I was, that to me is the fun part of that. 0.96

01:09:18.000 And that's why that's a good story to tell because everyone has done stuff that they look back on and go like, oh God, why did I do that? 0.99

01:09:24.000 So I don't think there's anything wrong with telling that story, especially if it's under the umbrella of, hey, look, we all suck sometimes.

01:09:24.000 Yeah.

01:09:30.000 This was my turn. 0.98

01:09:32.000 Yeah, that's quite a bit more suck, though. 0.98

01:09:35.000 Yeah, it's really pretty bad. 0.98

01:09:35.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:09:38.000 Oh, yeah, the Ashley Judd joke.

01:09:39.000 How was the pizza, by the way?

01:09:40.000 Was it worth it?

01:09:41.000 No, it was Little Caesars.

01:09:42.000 It wasn't even worth it.

01:09:43.000 No, Little Caesars.

01:09:45.000 Little sleaze. 0.96

01:09:46.000 Yeah, and it's actually probably one of my best, at that time, best bits, just in this audience.

01:09:51.000 And then I could not win them back, because they're like, this person is Satan.

01:09:55.000 Yeah, that's a tough one.

01:09:56.000 Yeah, that's a tough one.

01:09:57.000 It's a tough one to rebound from.

01:09:59.000 The Ashley Jett thing, it's funny that you've never been called in at Foxy.

01:10:02.000 I was HuffPo.

01:10:02.000 I remember for a long time, HuffPo, if I made a joke, because I'd go to CPAC or they'd ask me to MC and I'd say, sure, and it'd be televised.

01:10:09.000 And anything offensive was a joke about Ashley.

01:10:14.000 Yeah.

01:10:17.000 And it was like it was a throwaway one of those topical things that you do in that time because like, OK, I have to MC this deal.

01:10:22.000 This just happened in the news.

01:10:24.000 The bit was something like she classifies anything she doesn't like as rape.

01:10:28.000 Now she knows how I felt after Divine Secrets of the Yaya Sisterhood. 0.95

01:10:31.000 Something silly like that.

01:10:32.000 Right, right, right. 0.99

01:10:32.000 But headline, Steven Kreider jokes about raping Ashley Judd. 0.99

01:10:35.000 And I got called in at Fox. 0.96

01:10:36.000 I'm like, you really think I would joke about raping Ashley Judd?

01:10:39.000 And there were some people there who, even when I explained the joke, thought it was a rape joke.

01:10:44.000 It's not a rape joke. 1.00

01:10:45.000 It's an Ashley Judd is an insensitive moron for comparing iPhones to rape. 1.00

01:10:50.000 Joke. 1.00

01:10:51.000 Also, I'd get nowhere near that.

01:10:52.000 Yes.

01:10:54.000 And then I hate when people do this to you, when they'll go, well, if you have to explain it, it's not funny.

01:10:58.000 And it's like, why is it always my fault?

01:11:00.000 Like, how can people with ears don't have responsibility, too?

01:11:05.000 Like, why is it always the guy saying it and never, hey, dumbbell, you misinterpreted that joke.

01:11:09.000 Why is it no one's fault for misinterpreting it?

01:11:11.000 Yeah, you know, that's a good point.

01:11:13.000 Especially, there's a lot more leeway for musical artists where it's just like, ah, it's just the way you interpret it.

01:11:19.000 Or actors.

01:11:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, or actors. 0.99

01:11:21.000 Well, I know what they do is so silly. 0.67

01:11:22.000 They read lines off a script and they talk about how I really opened myself up. 0.91

01:11:26.000 Like, what?

01:11:26.000 You were in a trailer and then you played a gay guy with a lisp when they yelled action and you made $20 million.

01:11:33.000 I don't get what's brave about that.

01:11:35.000 Yeah, that wasn't particularly brave.

01:11:37.000 And look, it's a great skill to have.

01:11:39.000 Right.

01:11:39.000 But somebody at the Oscars...

01:11:40.000 And look, I liked her.

01:11:42.000 I thought she was moving.

01:11:43.000 I forget her name.

01:11:45.000 She was like, we celebrate people's lives.

01:11:48.000 Oh, hold on.

01:11:50.000 Olivia something.

01:11:52.000 I don't know.

01:11:52.000 I tried to wipe that from my memory bank, the Oscars.

01:11:55.000 Yeah, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.

01:11:57.000 Honestly, there was a little bit, but it wasn't as bad...

01:12:00.000 No, two years ago was Oscars So White.

01:12:01.000 That was really bad, where everything was like, oh, so now another white nominee, and it was always a new affront. 0.95

01:12:06.000 And then I just saw Beauty and the Beast.

01:12:08.000 It was set in 1740s France, and they have black royalty, because apparently slavery wasn't a thing.

01:12:13.000 I'm like, come on, you have 30% of the Beauty and the Beast cast of French monarchy as black people in powdered wigs. 1.00

01:12:19.000 It was Viola Davis, wasn't it?

01:12:20.000 Viola Davis.

01:12:21.000 Viola Davis.

01:12:21.000 Yes, yes.

01:12:22.000 Viola Davis, yes.

01:12:23.000 How dare you get those two mixed up?

01:12:25.000 Yeah.

01:12:27.000 Yeah, I said Olivia, and I didn't know where I was going with it.

01:12:29.000 I knew Olivia, and I just petered out.

01:12:31.000 The only Olivia we know is Newton-John. 0.90

01:12:32.000 She still looks good in her age, actually.

01:12:34.000 Who is the other?

01:12:35.000 No, there's another one.

01:12:37.000 Octavia.

01:12:38.000 Oh, Octavia Spencer?

01:12:40.000 Octavia Spencer.

01:12:41.000 Olivia Wilde is another Olivia.

01:12:42.000 That's true.

01:12:43.000 But I'm out of Olivia's.

01:12:44.000 There's two Olivias and I'm tapped out of Olivia's.

01:12:46.000 Okay, what were we going to say before we got into the Olivia thing?

01:12:48.000 Something about the Oscars?

01:12:50.000 Was there a point?

01:12:51.000 Oh, I don't even remember.

01:12:52.000 Maybe just her speech being self-important.

01:12:53.000 I don't even remember.

01:12:54.000 How artists get a little self-important about their role.

01:12:58.000 And it's like, you know, our role is to be, again, as a comic, express what I want to express and be funny or try to be funny while I'm doing it.

01:13:04.000 That's it.

01:13:05.000 Hopefully people laugh.

01:13:06.000 Yeah, well, you know, I do ask, so I have to ask you this then, because we've talked, we've had different points of view, and I've talked with Joe Rogan about it, Nick DiPaolo.

01:13:14.000 Who else did we talk with?

01:13:15.000 Harrison Greenbaum, who got really mad.

01:13:17.000 I like Harrison.

01:13:19.000 Yeah, he got really mad.

01:13:21.000 He said that I shouldn't be able to use gay as a pejorative.

01:13:23.000 And he's like, do you know what pejorative means?

01:13:25.000 I said, yes.

01:13:26.000 He's like, so you still think it's okay?

01:13:28.000 I said, yes.

01:13:29.000 And his head exploded on this show. 0.99

01:13:32.000 I said, that's gay? 0.96

01:13:34.000 He's like, you said it in a pejorative way.

01:13:36.000 I said, yes.

01:13:36.000 And he's like, do you know what that means?

01:13:37.000 I said, yes.

01:13:38.000 And he couldn't believe it.

01:13:39.000 We see a lot of this with this sort of next generation of comedians coming up.

01:13:43.000 I feel like, and I could be wrong, as someone who sees both sides of this coin, a lot of young kids going to open mics or even doing sort of the YouTube comedy, where it's changed, where there were a lot of people who comedy was all about free speech.

01:13:57.000 There were even some names we could throw out there who were shocked comedians, and then they shut the door behind them, and now they're out there protesting and accusing people of hate speech.

01:14:05.000 Do you feel like there's...

01:14:06.000 It might be tough because you sell out theaters now, but do you feel like there's a different vibe where a lot of comedians are afraid?

01:14:12.000 And not just not guys like you who are successful because you have an audience no matter what.

01:14:16.000 But for the kid who is going to run up against the club book or who doesn't want to deal with the lawsuit or someone accusing him of hate speech.

01:14:22.000 Does that ever cross your mind?

01:14:25.000 It concerns me sometimes.

01:14:26.000 Yeah, it bothers me that when comedians start saying what other comedians should say, and I do think that people are afraid of it, but it's almost like there's no way to tell.

01:14:35.000 Like, look, nobody goes on stage.

01:14:37.000 Even my audience is very harsh.

01:14:39.000 If I went on stage and started throwing out n-bombs with anger behind them, the audience wouldn't go with me. 1.00

01:14:43.000 It would seem ugly. 0.98

01:14:46.000 Or if I was up there bashing gay people in a way that meant like I really hated gay people, they wouldn't go with that because they'd be like, eh, it's kind of ugly. 0.99

01:14:52.000 But the problem is when you're really not trying to be hateful and people know you're not trying to be hateful, and it's almost like the landmines aren't set. 0.99

01:14:59.000 You're walking and someone's backing up in front of you, throwing the landmines, or if you step on one, you're a terrible person and they got you and they love to get you. 0.94

01:15:09.000 It's not even about the language or gay people or black people or Jews or women. 0.95

01:15:12.000 It's not about any special interest group.

01:15:14.000 It's about getting people.

01:15:15.000 We love to get each other.

01:15:17.000 But isn't it more concerning when now you see comedians doing that?

01:15:20.000 Oh, my God.

01:15:21.000 It's terrible.

01:15:21.000 It's absolutely terrible.

01:15:23.000 Because it's like, hey, dumbbells, what do you think?

01:15:24.000 You're not next?

01:15:26.000 What do you think?

01:15:26.000 They're not going to come after you someday?

01:15:28.000 Like the girl who went after Stephen Colbert, Suey Park.

01:15:31.000 With Cancel Colbert.

01:15:32.000 I think he said chinky or something.

01:15:34.000 He did some Asian slur.

01:15:36.000 Right.

01:15:36.000 But it was in the context of pointing out how something was really racist.

01:15:40.000 He wasn't being anti-Asian and she knew it.

01:15:43.000 Right.

01:15:43.000 And she still went after him and still targeted him.

01:15:46.000 And then she said her life was ruined because of online backlash.

01:15:50.000 It's like that's what you get. 0.88

01:15:51.000 So even people that want to kill you...

01:15:54.000 For doing it, now all of a sudden it turns around and gets them in the face because they don't realize the ugliness of just targeting people and playing gotcha.

01:16:01.000 It's ugly, man.

01:16:02.000 I never want to see people get fired. 1.00

01:16:04.000 I don't want to see anybody get fired for saying something stupid. 1.00

01:16:07.000 I've said a million stupid things. 1.00

01:16:09.000 I know, and we always talk about that. 1.00

01:16:10.000 It's like the good thing is we have such a long catalog and open book with this show where they pull some out and say, did you say this?

01:16:16.000 I don't know, probably.

01:16:17.000 Sounds like something I would say.

01:16:18.000 And you kind of have to move along down the trail, you know?

01:16:21.000 But we talk about like Ted Cruz.

01:16:24.000 People would send him messages like, are you sure you want to go on this show?

01:16:26.000 This is a show that played Spot the Tranny.

01:16:28.000 And they're like, yeah, but they do so much stuff that's just outlandish.

01:16:31.000 Who cares at this point?

01:16:32.000 They clearly don't hate transgender people.

01:16:34.000 We had the first transgender mayor of New York on here.

01:16:36.000 Jess Hurst!

01:16:37.000 And Spot's Franny, by the way.

01:16:39.000 Every time you win that game, it's usually a picture of them with me.

01:16:46.000 It's a fun game.

01:16:47.000 I think, actually, Nick DiPello is the reigning champion, isn't he, Jared?

01:16:49.000 He is.

01:16:50.000 He was really good at it.

01:16:52.000 It was disturbing.

01:16:53.000 Yeah, it was disturbing.

01:16:54.000 Good for Nick.

01:16:55.000 He's got some juice in the tank.

01:16:58.000 I've been hanging out with Gavin.

01:16:59.000 I could talk about this forever.

01:17:01.000 We have other guests that we have on, but it definitely concerns me when comedians do that.

01:17:06.000 So even though I've always been a clean comedian, I guess, I don't know.

01:17:10.000 I mean a lot of people are surprised that some of my favorite comics aren't.

01:17:13.000 Anyone who's willing to open that floor and let someone else have the floor is just something that I respect.

01:17:18.000 You don't see a lot of it in politics and you're seeing less of it in comedy.

01:17:22.000 So I do it not to get serious, but I do appreciate that about you.

01:17:25.000 There are a lot of comics who don't do that now and it scares me.

01:17:29.000 I never want anybody to be shut up because of what they say. 0.93

01:17:32.000 It's so silly.

01:17:33.000 Because I say so many things that people find vulgar.

01:17:37.000 Even if they're not dirty, just a certain opinion I might have.

01:17:40.000 Like, I'm for this or I'm against that or I'm for this.

01:17:42.000 I don't want someone telling me I can't say it.

01:17:44.000 Right. 0.86

01:17:44.000 So, like, I'm a bit of a pig in my real life, and I'm dirty on stage, and I say it, and if people like it, they come, and if they don't like it, they don't have to come. 0.86

01:17:52.000 Like, whatever. 0.82

01:17:53.000 Sean Hannity, you know, I like Hannity because he defended the Opie and Anthony show years ago.

01:17:57.000 He goes, if you don't like it, turn it off.

01:17:59.000 Yeah.

01:18:00.000 And it was like, you know, people think that the conservatives are the ones marching down the street with pitchforks, but they're not anymore.

01:18:05.000 No.

01:18:06.000 And it's disappointing, because I agree with liberals on a lot of social issues, but come on, guys, you've got to stop with the language.

01:18:12.000 Yeah, and we had this conversation, I remember, a while ago.

01:18:15.000 We were even talking about the First Amendment and kind of separation of church and state.

01:18:18.000 And I remember you were talking about it, and I said, well, hold on.

01:18:20.000 You were talking about the church and their taxism status and why you thought they shouldn't have that.

01:18:24.000 And I said, well, let me explain to you why I think they should.

01:18:26.000 And even there, you and I disagreed on this issue.

01:18:28.000 I remember I was having a conversation.

01:18:29.000 I think you had an iced coffee.

01:18:30.000 And I said, oh, okay.

01:18:31.000 And that was it.

01:18:32.000 It's just so rare now for that to occur.

01:18:34.000 We've hit a point where that's the anomaly.

01:18:37.000 That's the exception rather than the rule.

01:18:39.000 And it's bizarre to me.

01:18:41.000 Because we have to win.

01:18:43.000 It's almost like I've been on Tinder before, and like women have said like, I mean a lot.

01:18:49.000 I act like it was a casual thing.

01:18:51.000 I'm on Tinder, I'm on Bumble, I'm on Raya.

01:18:54.000 But I've actually seen women in their profiles, if you voted for Trump, swipe left. 1.00

01:19:01.000 Like, it's like, really?

01:19:03.000 Like, first of all, if I voted for Trump and I thought you were hot, don't you think I would just lie?

01:19:10.000 Who could crack that code, genius? 1.00

01:19:12.000 How stupid are you? 1.00

01:19:13.000 Like, I wouldn't tell you. 1.00

01:19:14.000 Like, as you're wiping your back off, I'd go, make America great again.

01:19:17.000 That's what I would do.

01:19:21.000 What's wrong with people?

01:19:23.000 Are we that divided?

01:19:24.000 You can't date someone?

01:19:27.000 It's like, first off, are you clean?

01:19:29.000 Did you vote for Trump?

01:19:29.000 Yes.

01:19:31.000 No.

01:19:32.000 No!

01:19:33.000 I just can't believe someone...

01:19:35.000 I can't believe I'm married, so obviously I'm not out in the dating game, but I can't believe someone would put that as a prerequisite.

01:19:40.000 A, it's...

01:19:41.000 I wouldn't be able to marry someone who was a leftist, I will tell you that.

01:19:45.000 I wouldn't be able to marry the choose kind of liberal.

01:19:47.000 Right.

01:19:48.000 But, I mean, I wouldn't put out that litmus test that could so easily be cheated.

01:19:53.000 That's funny.

01:19:54.000 It's funny, like, I don't mind.

01:19:55.000 When you look at Carville and his wife, who was Marilyn...

01:19:58.000 Maitland or Madeline or...

01:20:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:20:01.000 I know who you're talking.

01:20:02.000 She was a Republican strategist.

01:20:04.000 Yeah, like, they're kind of a fun, ideal couple.

01:20:07.000 And I know James, and I like him a lot, even though, again, politically we're probably different.

01:20:13.000 I think he's a bit more liberal than I am, more in the center.

01:20:15.000 But, like, I like people who I'm different than I like.

01:20:17.000 I know a lot of real conservative, hardcore guys that I like.

01:20:20.000 I like you.

01:20:21.000 You're a lot more conservative than me. 0.89

01:20:22.000 That's silly.

01:20:23.000 Don't admit that publicly.

01:20:25.000 I don't let people's politics judge whether or not I like them.

01:20:28.000 I mean, I like people who challenge what I think.

01:20:30.000 There's some really smart, real conservatives and real smart, real liberals, and they challenge what you think, and that's great.

01:20:36.000 Yeah.

01:20:37.000 Okay, we have to get going.

01:20:38.000 One thing I will say to Matt Serra, my first jiu-jitsu instructor when I lived in New York, I won't say who he is, but he was of an opposing school of Alliance Jiu-Jitsu.

01:20:46.000 Back then there was a huge rivalry with Matt Serra.

01:20:48.000 Okay.

01:20:49.000 Henzo and Alliance Jiu Jitsu.

01:20:50.000 And I remember I asked a question about Matt Serra specifically to my instructor.

01:20:55.000 And everyone else was like, don't do that.

01:20:57.000 Don't do that.

01:20:58.000 And I said, why?

01:20:59.000 And they sent me a link to this videotape of just Matt Serra running roughshod over this guy.

01:21:04.000 It was like this...

01:21:04.000 Underground jiu-jitsu match.

01:21:06.000 You know, the old VHS squiggly lines.

01:21:08.000 And they were like, you still got a sore spot about it.

01:21:11.000 And this guy was my first instructor.

01:21:13.000 So I just remember watching because I'd never seen Matt Serra grapple.

01:21:15.000 He was just like, I mean, he looked like a little ninja turtle on crack.

01:21:18.000 The guy is so fluid.

01:21:20.000 And I've always been a fan.

01:21:22.000 So I'm glad that you two are doing that show.

01:21:24.000 And then your special is, let people know, you can plug it best.

01:21:28.000 Mouthful of Shame on Netflix.

01:21:30.000 It's up now, and I call it that because I'm embarrassed by what comes out of my mouth and what I put in it.

01:21:35.000 So I hope you like this special.

01:21:37.000 And I'm on with Jim Norton and Sam Roberts on SiriusXM.

01:21:40.000 I appreciate it, Stephen.

01:21:41.000 This was a lot of fun, man.

01:21:42.000 Anytime, I'd love to do it again.

01:21:43.000 Absolutely.

01:21:43.000 We'll get you back sooner than later next time.

01:21:45.000 Just answer your phone!

01:21:48.000 Jim Norton, everybody.

01:21:49.000 Mouthful of Shame on Netflix.

01:21:50.000 We'll be back with more of something after this.

01:21:52.000 Thanks, buddy.

01:21:53.000 All right, Mr. Crudder, how are we doing today?

01:22:04.000 Good morning.

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01:22:24.000 No, Zika.

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01:23:32.000 Alright, glad to glad to be back.

01:23:58.000 Jim Norton, Sargon of Akkad, great guests.

01:24:00.000 I wish I could say great week.

01:24:01.000 Not such a great week as far as news.

01:24:03.000 Some sad stuff.

01:24:05.000 Sad week.

01:24:06.000 It happens.

01:24:07.000 Sad week.

01:24:08.000 Come across those.

01:24:09.000 Terrorism.

01:24:11.000 Terrorism.

01:24:11.000 Lost a part of her.

01:24:13.000 Let's never get that back.

01:24:15.000 You know, we have a big week next week, by the way.

01:24:18.000 We have Colin Oriardi.

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01:24:21.000 I think we have Roaming Millennial, Gavin.

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01:24:33.000 There's nothing I can do to convince you. 0.99

01:24:36.000 You know...

01:24:37.000 I was just trying to think.

01:24:38.000 The boiling point of water.

01:24:40.000 Maybe Edward, is it two...

01:24:42.000 It's 100 degrees Celsius.

01:24:44.000 It's 100 degrees Celsius.

01:24:45.000 I'm trying to think Fahrenheit.

01:24:45.000 Okay, I know it's 100 degrees Celsius.

01:24:46.000 I was trying to do Fahrenheit for Americans.

01:24:48.000 It's 212.

01:24:49.000 I was like, yeah, 212.

01:24:51.000 I don't remember who told me this, but it's funny.

01:24:53.000 Well, let's start off this way.

01:24:56.000 With the London situation, if you watched last night's show, and if you see the way we tried to cover it at the website...

01:25:02.000 It is remarkable as to just how inept the media was at covering that.

01:25:06.000 And it is remarkable as to the level of work we were required to do to try and get to the truth.

01:25:10.000 And we weren't able to.

01:25:11.000 We weren't able to do it at any point yesterday.

01:25:13.000 It only came out this morning.

01:25:15.000 But that didn't stop everyone on both mainstream media and a lot of alternative media from floating conspiracies.

01:25:22.000 And sometimes just putting out information.

01:25:24.000 We talk about this.

01:25:24.000 Sometimes people just put out information that they know is flat out wrong.

01:25:27.000 Just to see if people will bite.

01:25:29.000 Yep.

01:25:30.000 Happens all the time.

01:25:31.000 Well, this is clickbait culture.

01:25:33.000 So if you can get the clicks, you can get the traffic, you can get the hoorahs from whatever side of the, you know, if it's a white guy wearing a MAGA hat, then you want to tweet that and Photoshop that.

01:25:41.000 If it's, you know, Osama bin Laden himself, then that's going to get you some clicks too.

01:25:47.000 Wait, what?

01:25:48.000 You know.

01:25:49.000 I don't know.

01:25:50.000 I was with you until that last part.

01:25:53.000 Yesterday, Devin Nunez, the top topic on the trending tweets was, Devin Nunez just got Trump impeached. 0.96

01:26:01.000 And I remember clicking it, and I read through this article, at least three or four paragraphs, until I realized, oh, it's complete bullcrap.

01:26:08.000 It had nothing to do with the story.

01:26:09.000 I thought there was something new occurring with the story.

01:26:11.000 And there wasn't.

01:26:15.000 So it wasn't a thing.

01:26:16.000 So people out there need to stop trying to make something a thing just because they want to get to it first.

01:26:20.000 They want to get a scoop.

01:26:24.000 It's more important to be right.

01:26:25.000 Same thing with Donald Trump and Russia.

01:26:27.000 CNN is a case study.

01:26:30.000 In completely devaluing your brand, your integrity, and any faith that people have in you.

01:26:35.000 I mean, Fox News and MSNBC, people always saw it as opinionated journalism.

01:26:39.000 People never really saw it as news, regardless of whether you're right or left.

01:26:43.000 But CNN kind of rested on laurels of, we're the real news network, CNN. And I don't know anyone who thinks that's the case anymore.

01:26:50.000 Anyone on the left, anyone on the right.

01:26:53.000 Chris Cuomo does, but, you know, he's...

01:26:55.000 It's true.

01:26:56.000 I think having so many more news markets, all these, you know...

01:26:59.000 YouTube news channels and little podcasts and little websites and Tumblr news stations, whatever it is.

01:27:06.000 I think all that, and Twitter, especially Twitter and Facebook, has just changed the pace of news so much that there is this eagerness to get on stories first, and then what...

01:27:15.000 When you can't do that, you just throw integrity out the window.

01:27:17.000 Just say, anything, just beat these guys.

01:27:21.000 So even if it's wrong, just beat those guys.

01:27:23.000 And we do it, too.

01:27:24.000 If we get something through the tip line and we think, wait, do we have an exclusive on here?

01:27:28.000 Do we have a scoop here?

01:27:29.000 But in the nature of what we do, we're not really required to be first.

01:27:32.000 People read or they watch what we do regardless.

01:27:33.000 Sure, because they want a different opinion.

01:27:35.000 Yeah, they want an opinion.

01:27:36.000 They want to be entertained.

01:27:37.000 So we're not required to.

01:27:39.000 But even then, there's a poll where it's...

01:27:40.000 Well, hold on a second.

01:27:42.000 Is this true?

01:27:42.000 Do we know if we'll get to this first?

01:27:44.000 Do we know if we're going to have information that other people don't have?

01:27:46.000 That always feels good for lack of a better word.

01:27:49.000 You feel like you're a member of an exclusive club.

01:27:51.000 So that temptation is there for everybody.

01:27:53.000 But instead of trying to be first, I would just like to see people do right.

01:27:56.000 I'd just like to see journalists and everyone out there in the blogosphere, on the right-wing blogosphere too.

01:28:00.000 Clickbait is a really big problem right now in the era of Trump on the right.

01:28:03.000 Just do a little more work, just a little more due diligence.

01:28:07.000 Same thing, obviously, we're talking about CNN and Russia.

01:28:09.000 I mean, they're a case.

01:28:10.000 No one believes you anymore, CNN.

01:28:11.000 No one believes you at all.

01:28:12.000 Anytime you say Russia, people do not believe you because BuzzFeed, there was no fact checking the Russian prostitute story.

01:28:19.000 Doesn't seem like this story that came out yesterday has – doesn't seem like there's anything behind it.

01:28:24.000 Doesn't seem like there's any weight behind it.

01:28:26.000 And just with that little bit of extra work, I know sometimes people out there think, well, okay, this is good enough.

01:28:32.000 And this is where I actually, I had a coach, I think, one time tell me this.

01:28:35.000 Water, I'm going to go with Celsius.

01:28:37.000 Water at 99 degrees is really hot.

01:28:40.000 Water at 100 degrees boils.

01:28:43.000 And so even though that step might seem minute, even though it may seem really, really small, maybe fact checking, maybe waiting that extra few minutes, maybe just putting in that little bit of extra work, maybe just doing a little bit more digging, maybe making that extra phone call to corroborate your sources, or even let's remove it from news in anything that you do in your life, whether you want to be a journalist, whether you want to be a doctor, whether you want to be a philosopher, whether you want to get a PhD in women's studies, for all I care.

01:29:08.000 Just going that little extra mile, that little degree can be the difference between being hot, being warm, and boiling.

01:29:15.000 And I don't think we see people right now in media, that's my milieu, media going that little extra bit, just that little extra degree.

01:29:23.000 I think we've just seen that.

01:29:24.000 That's why it seems to be a cascade.

01:29:26.000 We're like, was it always this bad?

01:29:27.000 How could they have gotten so bad so quickly?

01:29:30.000 Well, they could have just pulled back by a degree.

01:29:33.000 That's all it takes.

01:29:34.000 And then you see the Chris Cuomos of the world.

01:29:36.000 You see the clickbait culture of the world.

01:29:38.000 You see the completely uncorroborated stories that are put out there as facts in the world.

01:29:41.000 I mean, like I said, New York Post, Channel 4 News.

01:29:44.000 These are news sources that were looked at as a beacon of truth at one point.

01:29:48.000 Just that little extra degree in media makes a huge difference and in your daily life.

01:29:53.000 When you're a little bit tired, when you don't feel like doing it, that's kind of the definition of discipline.

01:29:57.000 Doing something when you don't feel like it.

01:29:59.000 Doing something once the excitement's worn off.

01:30:02.000 It's really easy to talk about news.

01:30:05.000 It's really easy to go out and fancy yourself a journalist when you're at the number one network and it's hot and it's clipping along.

01:30:10.000 That's not really discipline.

01:30:12.000 When it's hard, when you don't know what's going on, when things are uncertain, when it requires a little more due diligence, that's what discipline is.

01:30:18.000 is it's doing something after the excitement, after the enthusiasm has worn off.

01:30:22.000 And that's why people who are disciplined, it could be the gym, Lena Dunham. 0.99

01:30:26.000 It could be journalists, which I would like to see some disciplined journalism.

01:30:29.000 It could be anything that you're doing.

01:30:30.000 You want to be a writer, you want to be an actor, you want to be a comedian, whatever it is, that discipline really tends to be what separates people.

01:30:37.000 It separates that elite level as we see it and everyone else.

01:30:42.000 And it's just a matter of one degree.

01:30:46.000 And so I'd like to see today media journalists go that little extra degree because we don't want to.

01:30:53.000 We're not disciplined.

01:30:53.000 We're lazy.

01:30:54.000 And we don't want to do your work for you.

01:30:56.000 See you next week, Mug Club members.

Louder with Crowder - March 24, 2017

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