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00:01:46.000 We're getting away from Kata this week.

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00:02:21.000 Seems like Woody Woodpecker.

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00:02:23.000 Oh my gosh!

00:02:25.000 Great guests.

00:02:26.000 Great guests tonight.

00:02:27.000 We have Dave Rubin on the show.

00:02:29.000 Always a lovely little gentleman.

00:02:31.000 Then we have Tim Schmidt on the show.

00:02:33.000 President and founder of the United States Concealed Carry Association.

00:02:37.000 Which will be fun.

00:02:37.000 We'll be talking about the events that we have coming up in Fort Worth as well as what you can do to make yourself safer as a firearm owner.

00:02:44.000 Lots to get into today.

00:02:45.000 One thing I wanted to talk about today.

00:02:47.000 We'll get in in a little bit.

00:02:50.000 Welcome to my show!

00:03:12.000 But other news to get into, of course, Supreme Court Justice Tameel Gorsuch.

00:03:18.000 Neil Gorsuch.

00:03:19.000 Sorry, Google correct me.

00:03:21.000 Neil Gorsuch.

00:03:21.000 Uyghur.

00:03:23.000 Uyghur. 1.00

00:03:23.000 You know, there was the filibuster, and then there was, for the first time, Republicans invoking the... 1.00

00:03:28.000 Well, if you don't know what happened today, let's go to the tail of the tape for Nancy Pelosi's reaction Woohoo! 0.81

00:03:41.000 Woohoo! 1.00

00:03:42.000 Looks like crypto's opening a bottle of water.

00:03:44.000 For those asking, we did not have the copyrights to that.

00:03:48.000 That wasn't shot here in the studio.

00:03:49.000 Great movie.

00:03:50.000 Not quite there for that budget.

00:03:51.000 Nuclear option dropped.

00:03:53.000 Nuclear bomb.

00:03:53.000 And here's the thing, it's just for a Supreme Court nominee.

00:03:56.000 You know, people now, we'll talk about this with Dave Rubin, when they're saying, you know, I can't believe this is unprecedented.

00:04:01.000 Well, this happened...

00:04:03.000 Harry Reid changed the rules on the Supreme Court justice.

00:04:06.000 And by the way, when you have four Supreme Court justices voting against the idea that private citizens have the right to own any firearms at all, you kind of lost your leg to stand on when it comes to bitching about either judicial activism or not following precedent.

00:04:23.000 They don't like the guy because he's going to enforce the laws that's written.

00:04:26.000 That's their knock against him.

00:04:28.000 You actually believe in the Constitution.

00:04:30.000 It's crazy.

00:04:31.000 I can't believe it.

00:04:32.000 He's got some nerve on him, Neil.

00:04:34.000 Something else.

00:04:34.000 Big outrage.

00:04:35.000 Not really, but the New York Times accidentally referred to Ivanka Trump as Donald Trump's wife.

00:04:42.000 They had to walk it back.

00:04:44.000 She's cute! 0.99

00:04:45.000 She's really cute! 0.96

00:04:46.000 I mean, come on.

00:04:46.000 Yeah, not as bad as...

00:04:48.000 They've made these mistakes before where they initially reported Donald Trump's mistress as Steve Bannon.

00:04:54.000 Ooh! 0.96

00:04:55.000 Well, that looks weird.

00:04:58.000 And they were also the same people who, you know, they were bitching about Mike Pence referring to his wife as mom.

00:05:04.000 Yeah.

00:05:05.000 Which is an incredibly common...

00:05:06.000 Again, this is when there's a slow news week until the nuke was dropped.

00:05:09.000 This is very common in the South.

00:05:11.000 I don't know.

00:05:11.000 I actually also had a tutor from either Trinidad or Tobago who referred to his wife as mom.

00:05:16.000 There's nothing necessarily new about this, but the leftists want to turn it into a thing as though it's some kind of a slip.

00:05:23.000 Code it...

00:05:25.000 By the way, when did we decide that Freud was a great thinker?

00:05:28.000 I don't know. 0.98

00:05:28.000 He's really most famous for telling people they want to have sex with their mothers. 0.98

00:05:32.000 Pretty much. 0.92

00:05:32.000 I just can't get Viggo Mortensen playing him out of my head. 0.92

00:05:35.000 It's just kind of gross.

00:05:37.000 When did you place England for it?

00:05:39.000 Dangerous Mind? 0.56

00:05:41.000 Dangerous... 0.98

00:05:41.000 No, Dangerous Mind is Michelle Pfeiffer and the Latinos in the school who are stabbing each other. 0.98

00:05:45.000 Dangerous Method?

00:05:46.000 That's not right.

00:05:48.000 I don't know.

00:05:49.000 I have no idea.

00:05:49.000 Are you having a stroke?

00:05:50.000 What is going on?

00:05:52.000 Well, speaking of which, there are some points where we decide these are great historical thinkers.

00:05:57.000 And they just put this in college courses now.

00:05:59.000 This is a great way of thinking.

00:06:02.000 And this brings us to something I really wanted to talk about today.

00:06:04.000 The difference between critical theory...

00:06:06.000 And the Socratic method.

00:06:08.000 Now, for those of you who don't know, if you weren't taught in college, the Socratic method, I believe, is probably one of the most effective methods to get to ultimate truth that we have available.

00:06:17.000 And the beauty in it is that it's so simple a child can do it.

00:06:19.000 As a matter of fact, it's very, we'll talk about it, it's very similar to a child simply asking, why?

00:06:24.000 When you have that kid who won't stop asking, and then you, well, hold on a second, why do I do this?

00:06:29.000 Why do I own a Toyota Tundra?

00:06:32.000 This topper has me questioning everything!

00:06:35.000 Why did I purchase that Pinto?

00:06:37.000 That car salesman got the best of me!

00:06:41.000 So Socratic method is very effective.

00:06:43.000 Now, it's very different from something that's called critical theory, which is taught more and more in colleges, and the Socratic method is taught less and less.

00:06:50.000 It was developed, first off, in the Frankfurt School to really kind of justify Marxist ideas in the wake of Marxism.

00:06:57.000 I know a lot of people say, oh, Frankfurt School doesn't exist.

00:06:59.000 It's like a shadow organization.

00:07:01.000 No, it does.

00:07:02.000 So let's just move on with that.

00:07:03.000 Let's...

00:07:04.000 Stop.

00:07:05.000 You can hold your comments.

00:07:06.000 But before I get into the nitty-gritty and the technical jargon, which I know will bore you, I always try and do this.

00:07:12.000 Again, this is kind of Socratic method, a little bit in play, like we did with Neil Gorsuch.

00:07:16.000 I showed you the highlights that were shown at Huffington Post and Salon when they would say, oh, Franken destroys Neil Gorsuch.

00:07:22.000 So I want to show you what leftists are showing your children or your college-age students regarding critical theory.

00:07:32.000 Let's roll that clip. 0.89

00:07:33.000 Gina is in the sixth grade, and she's very excited to move to middle school.

00:07:37.000 She wants to learn more about science and math, and maybe invent some cool technology when she's a grown-up.

00:07:44.000 But there's an issue.

00:07:46.000 Gina isn't from the best neighborhood. 1.00

00:07:48.000 She's not white.

00:07:50.000 And she's a woman.

00:07:52.000 All three of those things can impact her education, and, as an extension, her future.

00:07:58.000 Yeah, it might be free.

00:07:59.000 Critical theory is a philosophy that involves being critical of the prevailing view of society.

00:08:04.000 In many cases, that means looking closer at beliefs that might favor privileged people, like rich, white men, over other people like Gina.

00:08:15.000 So I know that was tough to watch, guys.

00:08:16.000 Sorry.

00:08:16.000 We're going to have to.

00:08:17.000 We need to set this up.

00:08:18.000 Marley was dead to begin with.

00:08:19.000 So people understand.

00:08:20.000 Now that you've seen the child version, let me explain a little further.

00:08:24.000 Critical theory seeks to move beyond observation of subjects or participation in attempt to reveal constraints, thereby motivating informants to engage in conscious political action.

00:08:32.000 The critical theorist is seen as a liberator seeking to make social actors aware of oppressive structures.

00:08:37.000 The first step on the road to social change.

00:08:40.000 So are you noticing anything yet?

00:08:43.000 People who say, yeah, I used to be a liberal, but they change radically.

00:08:48.000 No, no, no.

00:08:48.000 Listen, Barack Obama, this was actually the bombshell that Andrew Breitbart was going to drop before he died.

00:08:55.000 He wasn't the one who was framing it necessarily as a bombshell, but then obviously people who worked with him did, and so it was seen as a dud.

00:09:00.000 But it really is a big deal.

00:09:02.000 If you understand, Derrick Bell was one of his professors.

00:09:03.000 He talked about it as one of his greatest inspirations, was a critical race theorist.

00:09:08.000 So it can apply to critical gender theory, critical race theory.

00:09:10.000 The whole idea is challenging the simple status of societal norms.

00:09:15.000 That's the basis of critical theory.

00:09:18.000 Sound familiar?

00:09:20.000 Patriarchy, heteronormativity. 0.55

00:09:22.000 This is where it stems from.

00:09:23.000 It's not just a bunch of people...

00:09:25.000 It's everything I hate. 0.99

00:09:26.000 But it's not just MTV and fat feminists on YouTube who woke up one day. 1.00

00:09:30.000 They've been indoctrinated with this phenomenon.

00:09:33.000 Let me give you some examples of what it leads to in college. 0.90

00:09:37.000 Some silly humanities courses. 0.93

00:09:38.000 You have queer musicology at UCLA, ecofeminism at the College of New Jersey, pornography and culture at the University of North Carolina, not feminist pornography. 0.95

00:09:47.000 Those were two separate courses.

00:09:50.000 Oh, thank God. 0.99

00:09:52.000 Just a bunch of fat broad servicing themselves. 1.00

00:09:55.000 Nobody wants to watch it. 0.93

00:09:58.000 Again, this is, so let me now briefly touch on the Socratic method.

00:10:02.000 For those of you who don't know, I think it's, here's what's ironic.

00:10:05.000 There are so many ironies here, but the Socratic method doesn't have the word critical in its title, but it actually requires critical thinking.

00:10:15.000 Critical theory requires the opposite.

00:10:16.000 It requires confirmation bias.

00:10:18.000 And this is kind of where we, again, benign sounding names, pro-choice.

00:10:21.000 No, you're not really pro-choice.

00:10:23.000 That's not what's occurring there.

00:10:24.000 Critical theory is actually not really about critical thinking at all.

00:10:29.000 The Socratic method requires critical thinking.

00:10:31.000 So it is basically to define it as simply as possible.

00:10:35.000 It is asking questions that elicit generative answers.

00:10:39.000 In other words, asking questions that require someone to substantiate their opinion, to validate their position as opposed to speculation.

00:10:47.000 And that can be simplified, boiled down to why?

00:10:51.000 Why?

00:10:51.000 Well, how?

00:10:53.000 Right.

00:10:53.000 It can literally boil down to something being that simple for someone's entire argument to unravel.

00:10:58.000 Unravel.

00:10:59.000 And here's here's why Socrates, by the way, can you think of anything more anyone more liberal than Socrates?

00:11:03.000 This was an open minded thinker by any measure that we would have available to us.

00:11:09.000 Socrates did not believe that the most effective way to change someone's mind was through lecturing or through sermonizing.

00:11:16.000 He believed the most effective way to change someone's mind was to ask these questions to get to the root cause.

00:11:21.000 Here's something that's important to note.

00:11:24.000 Critical theory.

00:11:25.000 All it is is societal norms must be wrong.

00:11:30.000 Therefore, you're finding a way to justify that conclusion.

00:11:32.000 It is confirmation bias based on a pre-made judgment.

00:11:38.000 The Socratic method, which liberals have eliminated from college, which leftist professors no longer like because they don't think that it takes into the equation things like white privilege or heteronormativity.

00:11:48.000 They've abandoned the Socratic method in favor of critical theory.

00:11:52.000 And these are the same people who often talk about safe spaces, judgment-free zones.

00:11:56.000 The Socratic method is entirely based on truth, on getting to the truth.

00:12:00.000 Now, in order to attain that, it requires there to be no initial judgment.

00:12:07.000 It's a judgment-free zone because you're asking questions.

00:12:10.000 The Socratic method can only work if you actually are right.

00:12:13.000 If you're having an argument and you're rolling the dice in the Socratic method, you're believing that that line of questioning is going to lead the opposing point of view to your opinion.

00:12:21.000 So to use the Socratic method, which is something that if you look at any really noted conservative economist or great sort of Republican right wing libertarian thinker of the last 50, they always talk about the Socratic method.

00:12:33.000 It requires that you believe you are correct.

00:12:36.000 And it requires that you don't make a prejudicial judgment on the outset because that would alter the course to truth.

00:12:42.000 Critical theory, however, from the leftist, the open minded leftist, and they are doing this in order to open your mind in college, in order to be more tolerant, requires that you start.

00:12:51.000 The line of questioning, the line of the beginning of the investigation with a pre-made judgment in order for you to circle back to draw to that conclusion.

00:12:59.000 And it's an irony that I am amazed.

00:13:03.000 Nobody out there, well not nobody, but very few people openly talk about.

00:13:07.000 Again, the left could not, if you need more approval, talk about Dave Rubin, critical theory is case in point.

00:13:13.000 The left could not be more closed-minded.

00:13:15.000 They are the most judgmental and ill-informed pricks I can think of.

00:13:19.000 You look like you're trying to jump in.

00:13:20.000 Well, which makes it really hard to have an argument or have a discussion about something because you're like, well, no, like you said, why do you believe that?

00:13:26.000 And they're like, because it is.

00:13:27.000 Wait.

00:13:28.000 No, but why do you believe that?

00:13:30.000 Look!

00:13:30.000 It happens!

00:13:31.000 What?

00:13:32.000 Wait.

00:13:32.000 Let's talk.

00:13:33.000 Just a minute.

00:13:33.000 We can get to the bottom of this.

00:13:35.000 It's the opposite of the childlike wonder in the Socratic method.

00:13:38.000 Well, why?

00:13:39.000 Why is this guy that way?

00:13:41.000 You ever have a kid ask you a question that gets into, like, biology or science and you realize you have no clue?

00:13:45.000 Because the angels are crying, dear!

00:13:47.000 I don't know.

00:13:49.000 But the kid is actually using the Socratic method in that situation.

00:13:53.000 In the other situation is when you're asking a kid for an answer.

00:13:57.000 That's critical theory.

00:13:58.000 Well, sweetheart, why did you use the crayons on my wall?

00:14:02.000 I don't have crayons!

00:14:06.000 Patriarchy! 0.99

00:14:07.000 I don't get to have crayons!

00:14:09.000 You have the pocketbook!

00:14:13.000 You see this a lot in church, too.

00:14:14.000 I've seen pastors go up to preach, and you can tell they don't really like...

00:14:19.000 It wasn't like a message where like, hey, we're going to go through this book of the Bible.

00:14:22.000 We're going to just take it.

00:14:23.000 We're going to go wherever it takes us.

00:14:24.000 They're like, I got an ax to grind this week.

00:14:26.000 Let me dig up some verses.

00:14:28.000 Let me dig up...

00:14:28.000 They can support whatever they want to say.

00:14:31.000 Because they have arrived at what they want to say, and they can find whatever they want to support.

00:14:35.000 It's the same thing with white privilege, with whatever you want to call it right now.

00:14:37.000 You can find things to support if you want to, but that doesn't mean that's where truth would organically lead you, if that's what you were really trying to find.

00:14:45.000 That's a good point.

00:14:45.000 Well, then it becomes mob mentality, and you can't support your position.

00:14:48.000 And so when we're the target of that mob, you know, white males, we don't have any idea what's going on.

00:14:53.000 We're not...

00:14:54.000 We don't have any understanding of where they want us to go, other than go away.

00:14:56.000 There's been a pre-made judgment based about whatever it is that you have accomplished because of...

00:15:01.000 It's all because of that.

00:15:02.000 Things that are completely outside of your control.

00:15:05.000 Circumstances outside of your control.

00:15:06.000 That is what's so crazy about it, is the discrimination that stems from critical theory and is taught in colleges.

00:15:11.000 It is a systemic teaching of how to discriminate without actually getting enough information.

00:15:18.000 How long has this been going on in college?

00:15:20.000 Yeah.

00:15:20.000 Oh hell, this could be a rough next decade.

00:15:22.000 If anyone reads...

00:15:24.000 Well, you know what?

00:15:24.000 There's going to be probably three Supreme Court picks under Donald Trump here.

00:15:28.000 I hope so.

00:15:29.000 That's a big part of it.

00:15:30.000 But Barack Obama always talked about that.

00:15:31.000 He always talked about Derrick Bell.

00:15:34.000 No wonder I didn't know what the hell he was saying.

00:15:35.000 You look at Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

00:15:36.000 You look at Bill Ayers.

00:15:37.000 These were critical theorists, namely critical race theorists, and Marxists to a T. It's a real slippery slope if you think about where that could lead to.

00:15:45.000 You can justify just about anything.

00:15:47.000 Yeah.

00:15:47.000 And listen, I'm very straightforward that I have a bias.

00:15:50.000 People are like, this is not an unbiased show.

00:15:52.000 It's an entertainment program.

00:15:53.000 However, the Socratic method, it doesn't eliminate bias.

00:15:57.000 It doesn't eliminate humans, our inherent requirement for some kind of a worldview.

00:16:05.000 You can call it being an ideologue, but everyone has an ism through which they view the world.

00:16:10.000 I've talked about that.

00:16:11.000 Now, that ism can just be feelings.

00:16:13.000 Like critical theory.

00:16:14.000 Or that ism can be a set of principles which, for better or worse, can help you, guide you generally in the right direction.

00:16:19.000 But the Socratic method does not eliminate your own inherent bias.

00:16:22.000 What it does allow you to do is look at it from an outsider perspective, sort of like an out-of-body experience, to see if that bias, does it hold water?

00:16:33.000 That's what the Socratic method allows you to do.

00:16:35.000 And you'll find out really quickly because it only works if you're right.

00:16:39.000 If you start going down that line of questioning, it's kind of like a lawyer.

00:16:41.000 Never ask a question you don't know the answer to.

00:16:43.000 The Socratic method is not in your best interest if A, you're wrong, or B, your position is based on unsubstantiated feelings.

00:16:51.000 That's why professors want to get rid of it. 0.98

00:16:53.000 Speaking of which, Socratic method, San Francisco is looking at removing disclosure. 0.98

00:17:01.000 Socratic method, why do you suck at speaking so much?

00:17:05.000 San Francisco is looking to remove disclosure laws. 0.95

00:17:08.000 We've talked about this.

00:17:09.000 We'll have to get him back, Chad with AIDS. Chad with AIDS. There's a push in California to remove the felony classification of knowingly transmitting AIDS to a partner who doesn't know. 0.91

00:17:22.000 They want to decriminalize that.

00:17:24.000 So that doesn't mean make it a speeding ticket, but they want to decriminalize it to a misdemeanor.

00:17:28.000 And a big, big California state senator is pushing it.

00:17:31.000 His name, Scott Wiener.

00:17:32.000 Speaking of AIDS. No, that's not a joke.

00:17:39.000 His name is Scott Wiener, that's him, and he's pushing to decriminalize knowingly spreading HIV. Where do you go with that?

00:17:50.000 Let's go to the Socratic method.

00:17:52.000 Why?

00:17:54.000 Now, here's his answer.

00:17:56.000 Because he seeks to de-stigmatize HIV. Apparently, he said there's a stigma attached to HIV and AIDS we need to remove.

00:18:05.000 Okay.

00:18:08.000 We don't want to stigmatize everything.

00:18:10.000 We want to remove the stigma between, you know, women who work.

00:18:13.000 Great.

00:18:14.000 We want to, you know, we want to remove the stigma associated with bully breed dogs.

00:18:19.000 Okay.

00:18:20.000 We want to remove the stigma attached to an entirely controllable sexually transmitted disease that can kill other people you're knowingly transmitting.

00:18:29.000 Yeah.

00:18:30.000 When is it okay to have a little stigma?

00:18:33.000 Yeah.

00:18:34.000 Remember Shame?

00:18:35.000 Remember when that was a thing?

00:18:36.000 You know what?

00:18:36.000 I'm okay with stigma with AIDS in North America.

00:18:39.000 Let's eliminate from the pot. 1.00

00:18:40.000 Obviously the kids who are born with AIDS in these third world countries, that's horrible. 0.98

00:18:44.000 And I'm so glad that Bono was over there fixing it.

00:18:46.000 He's done his work.

00:18:47.000 It's done.

00:18:48.000 Thank you, Bono.

00:18:49.000 But AIDS in the United States is almost an entirely preventable disease.

00:18:52.000 And if there is an uptick, as some people have argued, it's because of problems like bug chasing and gift giving.

00:18:59.000 Chad with AIDS, who's on the show, will talk about that in the gay American community.

00:19:02.000 Are you saying AIDS is the gay disease?

00:19:05.000 In the United States, yes.

00:19:07.000 CDC stats showed at 94%.

00:19:09.000 So he, again, the Socratic method is, here, why?

00:19:12.000 Because we want to de-stigmatize AIDS or HIV. And this goes back to, same thing, critical theory, in starting off with confirmation bias that this is the victim.

00:19:21.000 We must help them.

00:19:22.000 You create real victims.

00:19:23.000 In this case, the victim is the person with HIV who has to say, do you have any idea how embarrassing that is?

00:19:28.000 Yeah, almost as bad as contracting AIDS! Who's getting the shorter end of that stick?

00:19:39.000 No pun intended.

00:19:41.000 Seriously, we're supposed to feel bad for the guy.

00:19:44.000 So, okay, let's play this through.

00:19:50.000 Okay, so the guy who has HIV, the person we're seeking to protect with this legislation.

00:19:54.000 This is not new, by the way, but there's an actual push and it might go through in California because of this guy in the Folsom Street Fair leather.

00:20:00.000 Let's play this through, okay?

00:20:03.000 Worst case scenario for the guy with HIV, if this law doesn't get it right.

00:20:07.000 Worst case scenario. 1.00

00:20:09.000 He's about to have unprotected anal sex with a stranger. 1.00

00:20:12.000 Just saying, that's really what this law is about. 1.00

00:20:13.000 Let's just be honest.

00:20:14.000 Whenever we're talking about these laws, like domestic abuse, that's what it is.

00:20:16.000 We're talking about disclosure laws. 0.96

00:20:18.000 You are talking about largely this guy not having to disclose AIDS when you have unprotected anal sex with a male partner.

00:20:24.000 It's not a law that's created for couples.

00:20:24.000 He's making new laws.

00:20:28.000 Right?

00:20:29.000 If you figure that out sooner or later.

00:20:32.000 Yeah.

00:20:33.000 Sweetheart, I went in for my basic rudimentary.

00:20:35.000 They were testing my thyroid.

00:20:37.000 Is there something you want to tell me?

00:20:39.000 Whoopsie.

00:20:40.000 Okay.

00:20:41.000 Worst case scenario for the victim they claim we need to protect.

00:20:44.000 Right now, this person is about to have unprotected sex with a stranger, and they are required to go, Oh, um, do you know what?

00:20:49.000 Oh, it's kind of awkward. 0.73

00:20:52.000 Should probably use a condom.

00:20:53.000 I have eights. 0.90

00:20:55.000 Not comfortable.

00:20:57.000 Worst case scenario for the other guy. 0.98

00:20:59.000 He has AIDS! Does anybody get this? 0.60

00:21:02.000 He gets AIDS! I love how they, when they try to argue, they're like, well, it's because it's under the detectable amounts.

00:21:10.000 It's like...

00:21:11.000 Viral load, they call it.

00:21:12.000 I don't want James Bond-Aid sneaking up on me.

00:21:12.000 Viral...

00:21:14.000 Like, that doesn't make it better.

00:21:16.000 Super secret double agent-Aid doesn't make it somehow safer.

00:21:19.000 No, I know.

00:21:20.000 No!

00:21:20.000 And they always use those words.

00:21:21.000 They feel like, well, if it's undetectable, it's virtually impossible for you to contract it.

00:21:25.000 Oh, so there's no chance of me getting it.

00:21:27.000 It's virtually impossible.

00:21:28.000 It's virtually impossible.

00:21:30.000 So there's no chance of me getting HIV if this guy has viral load.

00:21:33.000 It's almost non-existent.

00:21:35.000 Hold on a second.

00:21:36.000 Just give me a straight answer.

00:21:38.000 Seems we're a little murky on the AIDS book.

00:21:41.000 All right.

00:21:42.000 We have to get another outrage here.

00:21:45.000 Um...

00:21:46.000 Two, Pepsi.

00:21:47.000 Was it Kendall Jenner or Kylie Jenner?

00:21:49.000 Kendall Jenner.

00:21:50.000 Kendall Jenner put out a Pepsi ad which is being called the worst advertisement of all time and Pepsi pulled it.

00:21:56.000 They thought it was insensitive.

00:21:57.000 To give you an idea, it was basically, it was kind of like Black Lives Matter and the Women's March all rolled into one and then Kendall Jenner shows up and she shares a Pepsi with a cop.

00:22:07.000 This is what it is. 0.99

00:22:08.000 By the way, first off, before we talk about this, can we all acknowledge then that this Jenner is totally faking the giant ass on Instagram? 0.99

00:22:16.000 That is not legitimate. 0.99

00:22:17.000 That's a trend, by the way.

00:22:18.000 You're going to look back in 2012 to 2015. 0.98

00:22:21.000 Remember that trend of giant asses that were totally fake from the Kardashians, the implants, and we all acted like we liked it as if that was a natural attraction? 0.98

00:22:28.000 That was a thing? 0.99

00:22:28.000 Yeah, I know. 0.99

00:22:29.000 We all acted like that.

00:22:30.000 Did you ever like it?

00:22:31.000 No!

00:22:32.000 So anyways, she's faking it. 1.00

00:22:33.000 Sorry, what were you going to say, Jared? 0.94

00:22:34.000 Just something, a joke about midgets in your pants. 0.99

00:22:37.000 Just move on.

00:22:38.000 Go on.

00:22:39.000 About my pants? 1.00

00:22:40.000 Well, no, I have somebody with a giant ass. 1.00

00:22:41.000 I do have a giant ass. 1.00

00:22:42.000 The people that fake it, you're like, you don't own that. 1.00

00:22:44.000 That's not real.

00:22:45.000 No, it's not real.

00:22:45.000 You're not one of us.

00:22:47.000 I can't conceal. 1.00

00:22:48.000 Jared knows it's hard for me to find a holster because of my giant ass. 0.99

00:22:52.000 We should do some measurements sometimes. 0.99

00:22:54.000 Anyway, continue.

00:22:56.000 Who's going to get the measuring cake? 0.98

00:22:59.000 It's going to be that guy from San Francisco.

00:23:01.000 He's going to tell you if he has AIDS or not first, though.

00:23:03.000 The show deserves to be demonetized.

00:23:09.000 And it's coming.

00:23:10.000 Oh, we've earned it.

00:23:12.000 And they said it was insensitive because they thought it was sort of a send-up.

00:23:15.000 This was recorded before this event happened, but they thought it was insensitive because of this famous image of this Black Lives Matter activist who went toe-to-toe with the riot police.

00:23:24.000 Didn't go well for her.

00:23:26.000 The bell rang.

00:23:27.000 She was not still standing.

00:23:28.000 It's true.

00:23:29.000 I just want to go to distance.

00:23:31.000 Not this time.

00:23:32.000 Not this time.

00:23:32.000 What happened?

00:23:32.000 By the way, before we get into this, that is one of those stories.

00:23:36.000 We didn't cover it.

00:23:36.000 I don't know why.

00:23:37.000 Did it happen yesterday?

00:23:39.000 This one?

00:23:40.000 The initial picture.

00:23:41.000 No, the initial picture happened a while ago, right?

00:23:42.000 Yeah, it caught a while ago.

00:23:43.000 Yeah, that one.

00:23:44.000 Okay.

00:23:45.000 It's not...

00:23:48.000 Yeah.

00:23:52.000 Is standing here a crime?

00:23:53.000 No, but if you're standing in my living room and you don't live there and I ask you to leave, that's a crime.

00:23:59.000 That's the issue.

00:24:00.000 It's not that you're standing.

00:24:01.000 It's that you're doing something which inhibits the action of somebody else, which can sometimes be a crime.

00:24:06.000 Okay.

00:24:07.000 So I don't know about you.

00:24:09.000 I didn't really think this was that outrageous.

00:24:11.000 It wasn't outrageous at all, right?

00:24:12.000 Coke nails it 1971.

00:24:14.000 I want to buy the world a Coke and sings a song and, like, advertising's great.

00:24:18.000 Pepsi tries to go for it and fails.

00:24:20.000 Poor Pepsi. 1.00

00:24:21.000 They suck already and now even more. 0.99

00:24:23.000 So is the plight of Pepsi. 1.00

00:24:24.000 Yeah.

00:24:26.000 Yes, Pepsi.

00:24:28.000 And then there was another ad, I don't think it was a huge deal, but there was another ad, this one, where the outrage was palpable.

00:24:35.000 A Nivea ad for their new deodorant, a white deodorant that doesn't leave any streaks.

00:24:41.000 Useful.

00:24:42.000 Their ad was, yeah, white is purity.

00:24:45.000 Now, see, I don't think that...

00:24:48.000 You're looking at it now through that lens.

00:24:49.000 I don't think you would think it was...

00:24:50.000 I think it's pretty bad.

00:24:52.000 I think it's pretty bad.

00:24:54.000 Mivia! 0.91

00:24:54.000 Come on! 0.91

00:24:55.000 Really?

00:24:55.000 I think it's...

00:24:56.000 Look at this!

00:24:58.000 Well, okay, it's the idea of white... 0.84

00:25:00.000 Imagine being black and reading that.

00:25:01.000 Especially as a guy who does camera, you can see the overexposed kind of look.

00:25:04.000 Do you mean it required hindsight to figure that one out?

00:25:06.000 I don't...

00:25:07.000 Yeah, I don't...

00:25:08.000 No.

00:25:08.000 Yes, it did.

00:25:09.000 Isn't Nivea like Scandinavian brand or something like that where they're all white anyway? 0.97

00:25:12.000 They're like, oh, this is good.

00:25:14.000 That's true.

00:25:14.000 Yeah.

00:25:15.000 That is true.

00:25:16.000 I remember Band-Aid got into a bunch of flack because they called it like natural or something and it was beige.

00:25:20.000 So they had to change it.

00:25:21.000 But in the countries where Nivea comes from, that is the only natural.

00:25:26.000 It's true.

00:25:26.000 It's true, and it's pure.

00:25:27.000 So everyone was outraged because, I don't know, I don't think it was that, but white is purity, which, you know, they responded to the market. 0.70

00:25:31.000 It elicited Nivea releasing their immediate counterbalance product, Nivea's pure tar sands.

00:25:41.000 They're hedging their bets on the target demographic there.

00:25:44.000 This is not the first time.

00:25:47.000 If you want to outrage, like, listen, it's okay that there's a Band-Aid that happens to be neutral with white people. 0.76

00:25:54.000 I don't tune into BET and get mad that I don't understand the 50th joke about how I can't jump.

00:26:00.000 Not all things are for me.

00:26:04.000 We just choose to be offended by just about everything now.

00:26:06.000 But listen, they'll release it and they'll release something else.

00:26:09.000 This is not the first time there's been an ad campaign that was deemed to be insensitive and had to be pulled back.

00:26:16.000 Pepsi actually had it before, too.

00:26:18.000 We've pulled up some of them from the archives.

00:26:20.000 Diet Pepsi had this one before.

00:26:22.000 It was...

00:26:23.000 Free yourself from high-calorie beverages.

00:26:26.000 So that was...

00:26:27.000 Well, that could imply, yeah.

00:26:28.000 I could see how that was a problem.

00:26:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:30.000 Looking back, Pepsi doesn't have the best...

00:26:33.000 They don't have the best batting act.

00:26:34.000 No, no.

00:26:35.000 0 for 2.

00:26:36.000 There was this one that a lot of people don't remember.

00:26:38.000 You know, Billy Dee Williams was a big spokesman for this one, but Colt 45 had some problems.

00:26:42.000 It didn't cross generations so well.

00:26:45.000 Colt 45's malt liquor campaign.

00:26:48.000 Hands up, don't sip.

00:26:49.000 Oh.

00:26:52.000 Which more offensive is that they seem to be encouraging irresponsible drinking there.

00:26:56.000 That is...

00:26:56.000 Of terrible alcohol.

00:26:58.000 Personally, I'm not a huge fan of that either.

00:26:59.000 And then, of course, there was the ill-fated campaign from...

00:27:02.000 Do you remember Coca-Cola Black?

00:27:03.000 Was half coffee, half Coke?

00:27:05.000 Yeah, it was pretty disgusting.

00:27:06.000 Yeah, and I bet you they wish they could take this one back.

00:27:08.000 Coca-Cola Black. 1.00

00:27:10.000 Bitches ain't shit. 1.00

00:27:15.000 One almost wonders what that has to do with soda. 1.00

00:27:17.000 The comma there, mind you.

00:27:20.000 The comma is brilliant.

00:27:22.000 Coca-Cola black.

00:27:23.000 Comma! 1.00

00:27:25.000 Bitches ain't sh**. 1.00

00:27:26.000 So, that's important to note. 1.00

00:27:28.000 They did try.

00:27:30.000 See, they're getting better.

00:27:31.000 Not to mention the original drafting of Mr.

00:27:34.000 Clean.

00:27:34.000 People had a huge problem with that.

00:27:35.000 A lot of people forgot about it.

00:27:36.000 Mr.

00:27:36.000 Clean, it was a different era.

00:27:38.000 They didn't know.

00:27:40.000 We have to go.

00:27:40.000 I can't believe we're getting this close to the end here.

00:27:42.000 We have our guests coming up.

00:27:44.000 So, we have Dave Rubin and Tim Schmidt from the United States Concealed Carry Association.

00:27:47.000 Thank you for being here at G. Morgan Jr.

00:27:49.000 He has to go.

00:27:50.000 He has to pee.

00:27:50.000 Ooh, pee.

00:27:51.000 1%.

00:27:59.000 1%.

00:27:59.000 Yeah, that's what we need.

00:28:00.000 1%.

00:28:01.000 Now, this is not the Bernie evil 1% bit.

00:28:04.000 1% of people who are watching, enjoying all of our content for free out there in the wake of YouTube and the demonetization and what's been happening with Twitter and the shadow banning.

00:28:17.000 If 1% of you out there hearing this transmission, subscribe to the Mug Club. 0.64

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00:28:25.000 YouTube does not matter at that point.

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00:28:44.000 And this is the only job they have.

00:28:46.000 And they're pulling long shifts.

00:28:47.000 And...

00:28:48.000 I don't know.

00:29:10.000 You know, there's been a shift right now in online content, and the social media ghettos are becoming less and less honest, and we need to be less and less reliant on them. 0.74

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00:29:34.000 All right.

00:29:50.000 I was doing this because this is how I feel for our next guest.

00:29:54.000 Cedarwood oil!

00:29:55.000 Dave Rubin, you know him.

00:29:57.000 The Rubin Report, we were talking about this off-air.

00:29:59.000 His hair looked so thick.

00:30:01.000 It does.

00:30:01.000 It's luscious.

00:30:02.000 My wife is all into the essential oils, and she got me...

00:30:05.000 It kind of smells farmy, but it does, apparently, does good things for your hair.

00:30:09.000 How are you, Dave?

00:30:10.000 Crowder, legally, I cannot take hair advice from a straight guy, but I appreciate...

00:30:17.000 I appreciate it.

00:30:18.000 I'm feeling good about my hair right now.

00:30:21.000 Your hair is looking fine.

00:30:22.000 You know, for just a guy out there doing your thing with big headphones, I think you're doing fine.

00:30:27.000 There's no way to make your hair look good with these headphones.

00:30:29.000 That's the thing.

00:30:30.000 It just either pushes it back.

00:30:33.000 Well, good.

00:30:33.000 Well, you've been a busy little beaver there, Dave.

00:30:37.000 I'm trying.

00:30:38.000 I'm trying.

00:30:38.000 So you had this video.

00:30:40.000 We always talk about you kind of personally when you come on the show.

00:30:43.000 So let's talk about some topical stuff after this.

00:30:44.000 But was it – am I a secret conservative or am I a closet conservative?

00:30:48.000 I'm trying to remember what – Am I a secret conservative? 0.99

00:30:52.000 Because that's what these crazy lunatics accuse me of. 0.93

00:30:55.000 They're always anonymous on Twitter and on YouTube and they say he's a stealth or secret conservative. 0.98

00:31:01.000 I don't know what that means. 0.97

00:31:02.000 I'm assuming these are the same people who say that I secretly hate Jews. 0.94

00:31:08.000 Definitely the same people. 0.81

00:31:10.000 It's these same people that just want to stir up hate.

00:31:13.000 Well, they think I'm a secret conservative because I talk to people like this.

00:31:17.000 Have you ever heard of this far-right guy, this Crowder fella? 0.99

00:31:20.000 This far-right, alt-right racist bigot? 1.00

00:31:23.000 I don't listen to that kind of trash. 1.00

00:31:25.000 I don't know what you do. 0.97

00:31:26.000 I don't know what's allowed over there at Rubin Report, but we run a quality program here, Dave.

00:31:29.000 Standards.

00:31:30.000 Even being associated loosely with this Crowder guy, or if you've heard about this real extremist, this white supremacist, this Ben Shapiro, you heard about this guy?

00:31:40.000 I mean, oh my god. 0.98

00:31:41.000 Or another wild, crazy guy who would love to take down America, this Dennis Prager. 0.97

00:31:48.000 I mean, I talk to these people. 0.99

00:31:49.000 They're notorious anti-Semites as well.

00:31:55.000 Yes.

00:31:59.000 Yeah, I this is the accusation because I talk to you guys.

00:32:03.000 So people say, oh, he must be somehow secretly aligned with them.

00:32:08.000 Well, I think you kind of I mean, I don't know if you would call yourself a conservative, but I don't view you as a leftist.

00:32:15.000 And I think it's kind of like we talked about.

00:32:16.000 There's just a wider tent, and so the hateful people who lost you, I guess, on their team, so to speak, went back when you were there with a young Turk, so the name, he shall not be spoken to.

00:32:28.000 Yeah, they probably just see you as a conservative in this era.

00:32:30.000 It's anything that's...

00:32:31.000 I'm not a moderate.

00:32:33.000 I'm really clear about that.

00:32:34.000 And I know you're more moderate.

00:32:35.000 But I think pretty much anything...

00:32:37.000 When you have, for example, today we'll get into the Neil Gorsuch thing and people are saying, this nuclear option is unprecedented.

00:32:42.000 Well, you know what?

00:32:43.000 You had four Supreme Court justices who didn't believe that private citizens had the right to...

00:32:47.000 You don't own any firearm at all.

00:32:50.000 That was the Heller DC case.

00:32:51.000 You've kind of lost your leg to stand on when you're advocating against ideological extremity.

00:32:57.000 And I think that's probably just what's happening with you. 0.99

00:33:00.000 You're just lumped in because you're not a crazy gay. 0.99

00:33:02.000 Yeah, thank you. 0.98

00:33:04.000 That's the highest compliment one can get.

00:33:05.000 Well, first off, real quick on the Gorsuch thing, and then we'll jump back.

00:33:08.000 You know, you can find videos of me on TYT at the time when, what was it, four years ago when Harry Reid and the Dems were flipping the rules, and I was saying that it was short-sighted and you shouldn't do it just because you're in power and you think you're going to...

00:33:21.000 Keep on having power.

00:33:22.000 Because you have to have principles when it's hard to have them, not just when it's easy.

00:33:26.000 But as far as the other thing, I'm happy to talk to you guys.

00:33:30.000 And yeah, I would consider myself a moderate.

00:33:32.000 But I have said a lot lately that defending my liberal principles, my liberal principles of free speech and free thought and logic and reason...

00:33:41.000 And individuality, which actually is a liberal principle.

00:33:43.000 All of that is now becoming a conservative position.

00:33:46.000 It's certainly not a position of the left.

00:33:48.000 So yeah, I'm not on the left anymore.

00:33:50.000 But I didn't move.

00:33:51.000 The left just went bananas.

00:33:52.000 And I find it a lot easier to build bridges with guys like you.

00:33:56.000 And if we don't exactly agree on abortion, or if we don't exactly agree on taxes, so what?

00:34:01.000 We realize that we're supposed to live in the same country together.

00:34:05.000 Let's not discuss abortion. 0.98

00:34:06.000 No vagina, no opinion. 1.00

00:34:07.000 I've read the rule book. 0.99

00:34:09.000 I feel a little dirty calling it TYT. Yeah, I know.

00:34:12.000 Just to back up to that.

00:34:13.000 What do you want to call it? 0.99

00:34:14.000 S**t show. 0.98

00:34:15.000 So, Neil Gorsuch, Gorsuch, no matter which way I say it, someone corrects me. 0.96

00:34:22.000 So let's just say Gorsuch, parentheses, itch, depending who you are.

00:34:27.000 This is interesting to me because we watched right away when the hearing started and even the Al Franken thing.

00:34:35.000 We took the clips that were being run on HuffPo on Salon and on all the leftist websites where they said, look, Al Franken rips into Gorsuch.

00:34:43.000 And I thought, are you watching the same clip?

00:34:45.000 So we literally ran the left's highlight reel.

00:34:49.000 On Neil Gorsuch.

00:34:50.000 And said, what do you guys think?

00:34:52.000 And overwhelmingly, and our channel's not all right-wingers either.

00:34:55.000 We have a lot of moderates there.

00:34:56.000 We're going, this guy seems unbelievable.

00:34:59.000 He is handling these questions superbly.

00:35:01.000 He is very reasonable.

00:35:03.000 He's very civil.

00:35:04.000 What's your view on someone like Neil Gorsuch right now, where you probably don't agree with him ideologically on a lot of issues, but on his handling, and the media is just relentless attacks on him?

00:35:16.000 Yeah, well, you know, a couple minutes ago I said that I've pretty much stayed the same and left has gone bonkers.

00:35:20.000 I would say one place where maybe I've shifted a little bit to the right is I really do now view the Constitution not as a living document that needs to be analyzed just in the time in which you live, that we should really be going off the letter of the law.

00:35:34.000 So that's probably somewhere where I've come a little closer, probably to where you stand.

00:35:38.000 I would say the bigger issue here isn't whether you think Gorsuch or Gorsuch or whatever is good or bad or right for it.

00:35:46.000 We can get to the real issue, Dave.

00:35:47.000 We can get to the real issue, but the real issue, we can get to that.

00:35:51.000 The real issue, though, really, is the partisan nature of what has become confirmation hearings.

00:35:59.000 That's really what this is about right now, because this isn't about whether Merrick Garland ultimately got on there or Gorsuch or anybody else.

00:36:07.000 It really isn't.

00:36:08.000 What this is about now is the absolute inability of Republicans and Democrats to work together on anything and And what it really is about is the fact that we're all sick of it and we see it.

00:36:19.000 It's out in the open.

00:36:20.000 Just look today at all the hypocrites being exposed on Twitter, all the Harry Reads and all the other Democratic senators who you can find their tweets from four years ago. 0.78

00:36:29.000 They were all about the nuclear option and now they're against it. 0.85

00:36:32.000 And I'm sure your good buddy Sally Cohn had a doozy today and then I just retweeted. 0.97

00:36:38.000 That's lesbian phobic to say buddy. 1.00

00:36:40.000 I don't know why. 0.96

00:36:42.000 We would think the gays and lesbians get along better than you do in reality.

00:36:46.000 It's a shame.

00:36:47.000 Well, I treat people individually. 0.98

00:36:49.000 So if you're a lesbian and not that bright, or if you're a gay guy and not that bright, I treat you. 1.00

00:36:56.000 It doesn't mean I'm I don't think she's not that bright. 0.97

00:36:58.000 I think she's a great example of someone who is so far in her ideology.

00:37:01.000 And listen, I know people say I'm an ideologue.

00:37:03.000 I am conservative.

00:37:05.000 But I do feel as though I'm able to rationally at least examine and assess my beliefs.

00:37:09.000 And I have changed some of them.

00:37:11.000 But it doesn't change the fact I feel like being aware of my inherent bias is more honest.

00:37:15.000 Whereas I feel as though Sally is so far off the beam ideologically but tries to act as though she's objective.

00:37:21.000 I think that's what I would say about her.

00:37:23.000 I don't think she's not very bright.

00:37:25.000 On the Gorsuch thing...

00:37:26.000 By the way, wait, real quick, Crowder.

00:37:28.000 You know, I had Mark Duplass on my show yesterday.

00:37:30.000 It'll be up next Wednesday.

00:37:31.000 And I had him on because I watched your interview, and then a zillion people were saying, you guys got to talk.

00:37:36.000 And here's another guy who comes from the left, but he's in a way, he reminded me of me like six months ago.

00:37:43.000 He's starting to wake up to this stuff, and he's going, well, where can I build bridges?

00:37:46.000 Now he's going to Africa with Glenn Beck.

00:37:48.000 They're going on some kind of honeymoon or something.

00:37:50.000 I'm not kidding.

00:37:50.000 They're going to Africa.

00:37:51.000 You know what?

00:37:52.000 I will say, that is one thing.

00:37:53.000 We bring in these, and then they're everywhere.

00:37:55.000 What was it?

00:37:56.000 Tim Kennedy, Andrew Bogut, Chael Sonnen, and now Mark Duplass.

00:38:00.000 Like, no one in the conservative sphere thought of these guys.

00:38:02.000 And watch, after we have Morgan Spurlock on, everyone will be like, ah, I've been friends with more.

00:38:06.000 I like it when I see you doing it.

00:38:08.000 But Glenn Beck is like, Glenn Beck, can you just give me a credit on your show when they roll?

00:38:12.000 Like, you clearly were not a puffy chair fan, Glenn Beck!

00:38:15.000 We always go backpacking to Mark Duplass.

00:38:17.000 Always.

00:38:18.000 When he was on this show, though, you could see him going red toward the end.

00:38:22.000 He was getting mad.

00:38:22.000 He was getting a little mad because it was his first sort of dive into it.

00:38:26.000 And then I think with you, you know, he had shaken off the cobwebs and was a little more ready.

00:38:31.000 You know what?

00:38:31.000 He's a good guy.

00:38:32.000 He's trying to find bridges to build, and I would put that ahead of any other partisan nonsense.

00:38:38.000 If I can find a bridge to build, I will try to build it.

00:38:42.000 And by the way, a guy like Beck, who I've tried to build bridges with, and we've become friendly and I've been on his show, he, I think, did a bit of an odd thing with Tommy Lahren, and I invited them both back to talk about it if they want.

00:38:54.000 So you have to have principles and it can be tough when you start becoming friendly or whatever.

00:38:58.000 Well, the Tommy Lahren thing, we talked about, it's something like with the Milo situation.

00:39:01.000 It's very difficult, right, to handle that because we're always straightforward.

00:39:04.000 We know people.

00:39:05.000 Now, Bill O'Reilly is not because I knew this was going on forever.

00:39:09.000 Going back on this show, I talked about it in veiled ways.

00:39:12.000 You know, Julianne Huddy's a friend of mine.

00:39:14.000 And I was like, oh!

00:39:15.000 And people are like, do you think this is true?

00:39:16.000 Of course it's true!

00:39:18.000 I've known people he's done it to.

00:39:20.000 Anyway, but with Tommy Loren and Glenn Beck, I think there are a couple issues there.

00:39:24.000 I think the main thing is that she was, like, super vehemently pro-life two weeks up until the Vue appearance.

00:39:29.000 And the question is, well, what changed outside of the audience?

00:39:31.000 And so I think there's some trust issues there between Glenn and Tommy.

00:39:35.000 But it was handled very poorly all around.

00:39:36.000 Yeah.

00:39:37.000 By the way, he's allowed to do whatever he wants.

00:39:39.000 It's his company, so I don't begrudge him that in any way whatsoever.

00:39:42.000 And also, as you just alluded to, we're not privy to every little thing that went on behind the scenes between the two of them.

00:39:47.000 For all we know, she told him to kiss off, and then he had every right to do whatever he wanted.

00:39:52.000 But real quick on O'Reilly, I don't know the stuff that you may know.

00:39:56.000 I can only see what is being reported.

00:39:59.000 But there is something that I don't like about this, which is that once there's a little blood, we now know once there's blood in the water, everybody attacks.

00:40:07.000 And now all of these, you know, 11 companies or whatever saying they're not going to advertise just like that.

00:40:12.000 Is it 20?

00:40:13.000 So, OK, so just like that, the guy's been number one for 30 years.

00:40:16.000 I'm not defending any of the things he may or may not have done.

00:40:18.000 No, I understand.

00:40:19.000 But this concept, because that concept can come for all of us.

00:40:22.000 And I think that's what we have to be careful about, especially for guys like us that are on the new frontier of this.

00:40:27.000 Right.

00:40:28.000 Because one day it'll turn on us too, so we shouldn't be too...

00:40:31.000 Well, I understand that.

00:40:32.000 And I said that about Milo.

00:40:33.000 Like, I vehemently disagree with what Milo said.

00:40:36.000 If you listen to it in context, the more context you added, the worse it was with the pedophile comments.

00:40:40.000 I talked about that.

00:40:41.000 But I said, I can also disagree with what he said and still be extremely upset about the hit job that was carried out on him.

00:40:47.000 You know, this is something taken from a long time back.

00:40:49.000 It was out in the open.

00:40:49.000 So I understand that.

00:40:50.000 I will say, though, I think it does us a disservice to act as though that's the case with Bill O'Reilly when it's, you know, 13 million with like six different women and like bordering on serious sexual assault.

00:41:01.000 Sure.

00:41:02.000 I'm not getting into the hitty gritty of it.

00:41:04.000 But in a culture over there at Fox News, you know, with Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and you look at the other people who are implicated who are at the top, many people who I've worked with, there's some great people there.

00:41:04.000 No, no.

00:41:13.000 But there is a culture in a lot of big cable news networks.

00:41:16.000 This isn't just Fox News of silence.

00:41:19.000 And if it's not sexual harassment, it could be plagiarism.

00:41:22.000 That happened a lot from people within the network and producers.

00:41:24.000 And it was if you really.

00:41:25.000 I'm not getting into the nitty-gritty of it.

00:41:26.000 If you really want to move up in this network, you don't talk about the guy who's ripping your stuff off.

00:41:30.000 And that happened to Friends, and then with Bill O'Reilly, it was more of a handsy kind of Roger Sterling thing.

00:41:36.000 That's just the way I picture him.

00:41:38.000 But, okay, Neil Gorsuch, because I know you can't be here super long.

00:41:42.000 It seems to be the biggest knock against him from the left is like...

00:41:45.000 He's a constitutionalist.

00:41:47.000 Can you believe this?

00:41:48.000 He defends corporations over people.

00:41:50.000 Hold on a second.

00:41:51.000 He actually just defended the rule of constitutional law.

00:41:55.000 That seems to be the biggest knock, and I think that's where there's the disconnect, kind of like Gavin McInnes has talked about, where they go, can you believe that Neil Gorsuch said X, Y, Z? And we're just going, can you believe Neil Gorsuch said X, Y, Z? I sit there, I'm going...

00:42:09.000 This is your A game.

00:42:12.000 And I can't think of a justice who's handled this better than this guy in a while.

00:42:17.000 Yeah.

00:42:18.000 I mean, look, from everything I watched, he strikes me as incredibly competent and well thought out.

00:42:24.000 I haven't heard anything that seemed duplicitous to me or anything like that.

00:42:28.000 They always want to get you on this litmus test related to abortion or something else and all those little games.

00:42:34.000 But again, this goes back to where I started with this, which is that if you want to be governed by the Constitution— Then we have to be governed by the Constitution, and you have to look at what it says, period.

00:42:47.000 Now, if you want to change the Constitution, you can amend the Constitution, and we have to do that legislatively.

00:42:52.000 But this is where, unfortunately, people on the left, they get their feelings caught up.

00:42:55.000 You know, this is Ben Shapiro's facts over feelings, things are feelings over facts thing.

00:43:00.000 He's a smarmy little Jew, that one, but he's smart. 1.00

00:43:03.000 But he's bright.

00:43:04.000 He's bright, that guy.

00:43:06.000 By the way, did you see that?

00:43:07.000 I think I sent you something this morning, this video that this guy created.

00:43:11.000 Yeah, the Star Wars parody.

00:43:14.000 With me as Rey in The Force Awakens taking down Jank as Kylo Ren and Shapiro jumps in as... 0.94

00:43:20.000 What's his name?

00:43:21.000 Oh, man.

00:43:22.000 What was that guy's name in the movie?

00:43:24.000 I don't know.

00:43:25.000 I'm not a Star Wars guy.

00:43:26.000 Poe. 0.72

00:43:26.000 I have a wife. 0.72

00:43:27.000 Not Poe.

00:43:27.000 The other guy.

00:43:28.000 Ah, whatever.

00:43:30.000 Anyway...

00:43:31.000 The point is, yeah, it's either we're governed by the Constitution or we're not.

00:43:36.000 And if you're not happy with what's in the Constitution, then fight to amend it properly.

00:43:40.000 It's the same thing with the people that want to take down the entire administration right now.

00:43:44.000 It's like, that's not what's going to make us a better democracy.

00:43:47.000 If you don't like Trump, then work on getting better people elected in 2018 and get a good candidate out in 2030.

00:43:53.000 Don't take the whole system down.

00:43:55.000 We've got to have some systems that...

00:43:56.000 Let me ask you this, in closing, because you were with the Young Turks, obviously, before.

00:44:01.000 I'm going to give you two bonus minutes.

00:44:03.000 This is serious, because you just said, you know, I've kind of veered now.

00:44:07.000 I'm more of a constitutionalist.

00:44:08.000 Let me ask you this.

00:44:09.000 Think back, and you can take a second.

00:44:11.000 Did these questions or did these thought processes ever actually come up when you were in the room at the Young Turks?

00:44:22.000 You know, to me, even talking about them in a certain way is just sort of pointless because I don't even know how relevant they are anymore.

00:44:28.000 And I think you and a couple other people, but particularly you, have done a really good job at kind of showing what Cenk is and all that.

00:44:35.000 Well, I mean more so just any circle of leftists because in my experience, it hasn't come up.

00:44:38.000 You know, I've been in the boardroom there at places like HLN or MSNBC. And this conversation, I think the big reason you're like, well, now I'm more of sort of a constitutionalist.

00:44:48.000 A lot of the time it's because these conversations with the left, It never even comes up.

00:44:53.000 And I was just wondering in your experience if that was the case, because it would give me great insight, you know, to know how to better understand people.

00:44:59.000 Yeah, I mean, I can say this, that, you know, when I would be on the main show, you know, you just walk on with some notes and you start talking.

00:45:05.000 So it wasn't like there was like a lot of back and forth beforehand about political philosophy or anything like that.

00:45:12.000 So, again, it ends up being feelings because every day something goes down, right?

00:45:16.000 There's news every day.

00:45:18.000 Somebody on the left does something nuts.

00:45:20.000 Somebody on the right does something nuts.

00:45:21.000 But if you're always reacting to just the feeling of any given day, how does this feel right now in this very moment?

00:45:26.000 You always have a reason to scream.

00:45:28.000 You always have a reason to slander and all that stuff.

00:45:31.000 And what I'm really trying to do, and this is why I do the interviews the way I do it and why I like talking to you, is that I'm really trying to get people to step back and go – We have a broad, pluralistic country here.

00:45:43.000 There's room for other opinions, but we have to agree on what governs us.

00:45:46.000 And maybe I'll shift a little more in that direction now, and hopefully I can get some of the left people to join me on that ride.

00:45:52.000 I think it's a great answer.

00:45:54.000 And listen, I always appreciate you taking the time when you come on.

00:45:56.000 That is Dave Rubin on YouTube at Rubin Report.

00:46:00.000 Is it Rubin Report?

00:46:01.000 Look at that.

00:46:01.000 Isn't that nice today?

00:46:03.000 It's like Johnny Bravo over there.

00:46:04.000 Get the sunglasses.

00:46:05.000 I know you're going somewhere out of town, so you'll come back with a nice tan.

00:46:09.000 Rubin Report on YouTube.

00:46:10.000 Where's the best other place for people to find you?

00:46:10.000 Where else?

00:46:12.000 Well, we're on the iTunes.

00:46:14.000 We've got a podcast.

00:46:16.000 We're around.

00:46:17.000 That's right.

00:46:17.000 He's on the iTunes.

00:46:18.000 That's the newfangled talking robot.

00:46:21.000 Dave Rubin, thank you very much, sir.

00:46:23.000 Go enjoy wherever it is you're going, and we will be back with a guy.

00:46:27.000 A guy!

00:46:27.000 We do not stop riding.

00:46:34.000 I do not stop riding.

00:46:43.000 Oh, my God.

00:46:58.000 - Mahalo, Agma! - All right, glad to bring our next glad to bring our next guest on For people who don't know, if you're listening to this show, depending, it's the internet, so they can be listening whenever.

00:47:26.000 April 8th, Fort Worth Convention Center.

00:47:26.000 That's true.

00:47:28.000 We've been talking about this for a while.

00:47:29.000 The annual Second Amendment Awards.

00:47:31.000 2AAwards.com to buy your tickets.

00:47:33.000 Tim Kennedy's going to be there.

00:47:34.000 Iraq Veteran 88's going to be there.

00:47:37.000 Owen Benjamin's going to be there.

00:47:39.000 And this man is the founder and president of the USCCA, United States Concealed Carry Association.

00:47:39.000 Yes.

00:47:45.000 Tim...

00:47:46.000 Well, I don't know his last name.

00:47:47.000 Schmidt!

00:47:48.000 Some called me Tim.

00:47:50.000 Tim Schmidt, how are you, sir?

00:47:52.000 I'm doing fantastic.

00:47:54.000 It's an honor to be here.

00:47:55.000 I'm super pumped about this weekend.

00:47:57.000 Second Amendment Awards ceremony is going to be unbelievable.

00:48:01.000 And, of course, it's wrapped around the USCCA Concealed Carry Expo, which is our third expo that we've ever done.

00:48:06.000 This is going to be the biggest, bestest, fastest.

00:48:09.000 We're expecting up to 15,000 visitors.

00:48:12.000 So if you like guns, this is the place to be.

00:48:15.000 Yeah, it certainly is.

00:48:17.000 Particularly, you know, you guys focus on the concealed carry aspect, obviously.

00:48:21.000 So it really is remarkable how big this market has become, you know, very quickly.

00:48:28.000 When I was growing up, I mean, concealed carry, even among firearm owners, was not really a thing, would you say, until the last decade and a half, as far as it being as common as it is?

00:48:38.000 Yeah, it really kind of kicked off in 1987 with Florida kind of led the way.

00:48:44.000 And, you know, of course, you know, at that time, all of the lefties were wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth.

00:48:50.000 And they're like, oh, my gosh, every traffic stop or traffic bump is going to be blood in the streets.

00:48:55.000 And, of course, that didn't happen.

00:48:57.000 And now there's an estimated 15 million.

00:48:59.000 Disappointing.

00:49:00.000 15 million people have concealed carry permits, and ultimately, we're all safer.

00:49:06.000 Yeah, well, I mean, we were just talking about that, having been in Detroit recently for my father's reunion game.

00:49:10.000 I said, and they're like, you know, carjacking is not just, you know, get out the car.

00:49:13.000 It was actually a term invented for the practice in Detroit where they would pin you between two cars.

00:49:19.000 And just, I mean, all of a sudden, you stop at the wrong light, and your car's just on cinder blocks.

00:49:23.000 Look what the hell happened.

00:49:24.000 There's nothing left. 0.99

00:49:25.000 And you're dead.

00:49:27.000 But in states like Texas, historically, now it's in Michigan gun laws are actually pretty relaxed.

00:49:32.000 It didn't happen at the same rate.

00:49:34.000 We've talked about that.

00:49:35.000 Comparing these crime rates are important because there's still a lot of gang-on-gang crime in these states.

00:49:40.000 But when you remove that, the crime against civilians is a lot lower than states where people aren't allowed to protect themselves.

00:49:46.000 So sometimes that isn't reflected in just the initial statistic people hear.

00:49:51.000 No, that's a good point.

00:49:52.000 It's so ironic because you look at the cities where all the huge crimes, Chicago, Washington, D.C., those are the places where you can't have any guns at all compared to, for example, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

00:50:03.000 Crime is going down.

00:50:05.000 It used to be a very high crime area, but five years ago, Wisconsin passed probably some of the best concealed carry legislation in the state.

00:50:13.000 And a funny thing happened.

00:50:15.000 I shouldn't say funny, but it was unfortunate for the criminals.

00:50:18.000 Shortly after that concealed carry bill passed, there was a bunch of situations where the bad guys got shot.

00:50:22.000 And guess what?

00:50:23.000 They kind of figured it out and they backed down.

00:50:25.000 So that's good news.

00:50:26.000 Well, see, some people hear what you just said and they think of it as sociopathic.

00:50:31.000 Because the bad guys got shot.

00:50:33.000 See, that's how they try and paint it.

00:50:34.000 Like, well, don't you have compassion for...

00:50:36.000 Not so much.

00:50:37.000 Home invaders, not so much.

00:50:39.000 You know, now they try to push a law in Nevada where homeowners can...

00:50:42.000 Sorry, home invaders can sue homeowners if they get hurt when they invade a home.

00:50:46.000 And that's how the left tries to, like, oh... 0.73

00:50:48.000 We had someone say, like, what are you, a sociopath? 0.61

00:50:50.000 You're glad that people were shot? 0.94

00:50:52.000 I'm like, I'm not glad that people are killed.

00:50:54.000 But I am glad that a homeowner shot the bad guys and got out unscathed.

00:50:59.000 And it seems like most people agree with that.

00:51:01.000 But the media is so out of touch with it.

00:51:04.000 You say that to the wrong person in New York or LA. Like, how could you take joy in bad guys being shot?

00:51:09.000 It's still a bullet.

00:51:11.000 Yes.

00:51:12.000 Yes.

00:51:13.000 That's so true.

00:51:14.000 I mean, here's the way I like to look at it.

00:51:16.000 So there's an event, right?

00:51:18.000 The event involves a good guy and a bad guy, right?

00:51:20.000 Bad guy comes in and intends to do bad harm.

00:51:22.000 There's only two possible outcomes.

00:51:24.000 Either the bad guy prevails or the good guy prevails.

00:51:27.000 I'm sorry, but I'm on the side of the good guy.

00:51:29.000 Well, that's incredibly simplistic.

00:51:33.000 The issue is much more nuanced than that.

00:51:35.000 For example, had the bad guy not eaten for several hours?

00:51:39.000 Was his blood sugar low?

00:51:41.000 That could be problematic.

00:51:42.000 Was the good guy, quote-unquote, wearing perhaps the wrong colors?

00:51:47.000 Did he wear red?

00:51:48.000 Did he decide to stay neutral?

00:51:48.000 Did he wear blue?

00:51:49.000 You need to respect their culture when you enter their territory.

00:51:52.000 I have a question.

00:51:53.000 Yes.

00:51:53.000 To Tim.

00:51:54.000 To Tim.

00:51:55.000 Has playing Batman overshadowed your gig at the USCCA in recent years?

00:52:00.000 Has that been a problem?

00:52:02.000 No, no, no.

00:52:03.000 He's not nearly as gay as Ben Affleck. 0.57

00:52:04.000 He's not as gay. 0.97

00:52:05.000 Not at all.

00:52:06.000 You must get that, though, the Ben Affleck comparison, right?

00:52:10.000 Yes, I have.

00:52:11.000 I've heard that, yeah.

00:52:12.000 He's a good-looking guy. 1.00

00:52:14.000 He's just an ass. 1.00

00:52:15.000 It's not that bad. 0.99

00:52:16.000 I'm just trying to beat the YouTube comments, because then you're not going to be there.

00:52:19.000 That's half the YouTube comments.

00:52:20.000 They don't listen to what we're talking about.

00:52:21.000 That guy looks like a hippopotamus.

00:52:25.000 Okay, so this event is going on.

00:52:28.000 And by the way, I think you're giving away free knives to everyone who goes through there at the Fort Worth Convention Center, right?

00:52:34.000 Well, so we've been promoting this the last couple months.

00:52:38.000 And when you pre-register, you get a free knife.

00:52:40.000 And while supplies last, at the event, we're giving away a free knife with the purchase of a ticket.

00:52:46.000 And these aren't like some cheap, non-legit knives.

00:52:50.000 These are nice, Kershaw professional folding knives.

00:52:55.000 Well, I don't know what professional means.

00:52:56.000 Like, I'm a professional little folding knifer!

00:52:59.000 But I think they are nice.

00:53:01.000 I have a Kershaw.

00:53:02.000 It's very nice.

00:53:02.000 I found it on the floor at a Love's gas station outside of Waco.

00:53:06.000 You know, there's just some criminal DNA on that thing.

00:53:08.000 It's probably filthy.

00:53:10.000 Yeah, that's why it doesn't sleep under my pillow.

00:53:12.000 So, okay, you have the USCCA. And I've been aware of you guys for a long time.

00:53:17.000 Is it Concealed Carry is the name of the magazine, too, that you guys put out there?

00:53:20.000 Yep, our flagship publication is Concealed Carry Magazine.

00:53:23.000 Okay.

00:53:23.000 Concealed Carry.

00:53:24.000 So why this expo?

00:53:26.000 Why USCCA? Because there's no shortage of sort of firearm organizations out there in the United States.

00:53:30.000 And I think it's important for a lot of people out there to understand that not all firearm organizations are necessarily politically aligned.

00:53:37.000 And sometimes they'll be surprised as to where the money is going.

00:53:40.000 So what's different about what you do?

00:53:42.000 Why this expo?

00:53:43.000 Good question.

00:53:44.000 So, USCCA is primarily focused on serving our customers.

00:53:48.000 We don't do lobbying on the Hill.

00:53:51.000 Quite frankly, I'm not a big fan of any politicians, Republican or Democrat.

00:53:55.000 I think, for the most part, they say one thing and they do another thing.

00:53:59.000 And so we help the Second Amendment cause by supporting the Second Amendment Foundation.

00:54:04.000 We're one of their biggest donors.

00:54:06.000 We were part of the amicus brief for Chicago v.

00:54:12.000 McDonald, which is a huge landmark SCOTUS case.

00:54:15.000 So we got that in covered.

00:54:17.000 But really, our customers are where it's at.

00:54:19.000 So we give them education, training, and self-defense insurance, which is really kind of the big thing that we do.

00:54:25.000 So that when they're in that situation, they have to pull that trigger.

00:54:25.000 Yeah.

00:54:28.000 We're their deep pockets.

00:54:29.000 We've got their back.

00:54:30.000 Do you know about this?

00:54:32.000 Oh, the insurance.

00:54:32.000 I don't.

00:54:33.000 Yeah, so they actually insure you.

00:54:35.000 So in other words, nowadays, like in Nevada, where they want to be able to sue the employer.

00:54:38.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:38.000 So if you just so happen to take out the trash with your concealed carry firearm, you're a part of their insurance program.

00:54:44.000 I do know about that.

00:54:45.000 They've got lawyers helping you, and they're on the phone faster than you can say bloods or crips.

00:54:49.000 So I have that about right.

00:54:51.000 That's exactly right.

00:54:52.000 Yeah, we have over 450 pro-Second Amendment criminal defense attorneys who are literally waiting right now to help our members.

00:54:59.000 Yeah, and that is a big difference.

00:55:01.000 Like you said, there are organizations that, and having worked with non-profits in 501c3s before, it can be kind of this cycle.

00:55:09.000 I remember I've worked with a few, so people are going to try and do their Googling.

00:55:13.000 They're searching, yeah, it must be this one.

00:55:14.000 I've worked with many different non-profits, certainly as a consultant.

00:55:17.000 Sometimes what they would do is they would write out a research paper, or they would do some kind of a lobbying bit, and they would send that paper out to donors, who would then in turn donate more money just so this paper would be sent out again to donors.

00:55:29.000 And nothing was really being done, but people felt like they were doing something.

00:55:33.000 I mean, that's got to be especially frustrating since you guys provide an actual service.

00:55:36.000 And in the Second Amendment community, sometimes people just find a niche market.

00:55:40.000 And they're just like, oh, let's milk this for all it's worth.

00:55:43.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:55:44.000 And there are some unscrupulous, you know, pro-Second Amendment organizations that really, it's just kind of smoke and mirrors.

00:55:52.000 And that's, I mean, it's one of the reasons that I love this expo because this gives me an opportunity to go and actually talk face-to-face with my customers.

00:56:00.000 And guess what?

00:56:01.000 If you're doing the smoke and mirror trick, you don't want to talk to your customers.

00:56:04.000 You're afraid of them because ultimately they're not very happy with what they're getting.

00:56:09.000 Yeah.

00:56:09.000 Like, hey, Tim, I shot a guy who came in and he kidnapped my kid and then your attorneys never answered.

00:56:14.000 Oh, you talked to my assistant.

00:56:18.000 That's true.

00:56:19.000 It absolutely is true.

00:56:20.000 Yeah, transparency is key.

00:56:22.000 And we've always talked about that, where if something is a little more expensive, no, we're not talking about this concealed carry insurance, but I will go with the person who at least seems transparent.

00:56:30.000 And particularly if someone gives me the shortcomings, like if it's a firearm, they'll say, well, you know what, this one, you're giving up a little bit of this.

00:56:37.000 And I go, oh.

00:56:38.000 They're being straightforward about it as opposed to someone who's just like, this is the best out there period.

00:56:42.000 Nothing even comes close.

00:56:44.000 And then they leave and you never see them again.

00:56:47.000 In your case, shooting a sequel to Justice League.

00:56:50.000 Okay, so, Tim, we don't have a ton of time today.

00:56:53.000 Where is this and when and where can people get tickets?

00:56:58.000 Location is in Fort Worth, Texas.

00:57:01.000 And boy, now you got me.

00:57:03.000 The actual place is the Fort Worth Convention Center Arena.

00:57:07.000 I don't know how you're the founder.

00:57:08.000 I'll do your job for you.

00:57:09.000 It is at the Fort Worth Convention Center April 8th.

00:57:12.000 That will be me, not Gay Jared, Iraq Veteran 8888, Tim Kennedy, and of course, this Tim. 0.57

00:57:18.000 And we'll be giving out what?

00:57:19.000 We'll be awarding, is it Firearm of the Year, Ammo of the Year?

00:57:23.000 They're a bunch of kids. 0.97

00:57:23.000 It's like the Oscars, but not sucking. 0.97

00:57:25.000 It's like the cool Oscars. 0.66

00:57:25.000 Yep. 0.66

00:57:27.000 Yeah, best gun, best holster, best ammo of the year, and the 2017 Second Amendment hero.

00:57:33.000 That's a big one.

00:57:34.000 Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one.

00:57:35.000 And for people who are asking, I actually don't know yet who wins.

00:57:38.000 Really?

00:57:38.000 So hopefully we don't pull a Steve Harvey.

00:57:41.000 Timmy, thank you so much.

00:57:42.000 2AAwards.com.

00:57:44.000 USCCA is a great organization.

00:57:46.000 I hope people go and check it out.

00:57:47.000 Thank you, and we'll see you on April 8th.

00:57:49.000 Sounds good.

00:57:50.000 Thanks, guys.

00:57:50.000 Wait, hold on.

00:57:51.000 There's music.

00:57:51.000 Stop speaking.

00:57:52.000 There's music.

00:57:53.000 *Dark Knight* Dark Knight here, and thanks to my utility belt, I don't need firearms, but you do.

00:58:07.000 Which is why April 8th, the Dark Knight, Robin, and other special guests in Fort Worth will be attending the annual Second Amendment Awards presented by the United States Concealed Carry Association.

00:58:17.000 You can buy your tickets at 2aAwards.com and enjoy an evening filled with special guests like yours truly, Steven Crowder, Nat Gay Jared, Iraq Veteran 888, Koliath Noir, and Tim Kennedy, and more.

00:58:30.000 We'll be discussing topics like Firearm of the Year, Manufacturer of the Year, and of course, Firearm Safety, which is most important.

00:58:38.000 Which is why it's pivotal that we always clear the weapon.

00:58:40.000 Clear that, Robin.

00:58:42.000 Holy cow, Batman, that's loaded!

00:58:44.000 This whole time?

00:58:45.000 Oh, fu- What

00:59:17.000 that means to play us out.

00:59:19.000 To end the show?

00:59:22.000 Go.

00:59:23.000 Go.

00:59:25.000 Dave Rubin, Tim Schmidt, very nice guests.

00:59:29.000 Appreciate it.

00:59:30.000 Then I'm going to go grope an intern.

00:59:33.000 I don't know why Bill O'Reilly said that.

00:59:36.000 Poor Aaron.

00:59:37.000 It's one of those deals where I know a lot of conservatives are like, oh, why are you criticizing Bill O'Reilly? 1.00

00:59:45.000 Because he's an ass. 0.99

00:59:47.000 Also, it's not like he's criticizing a conservative. 1.00

00:59:50.000 Also, he sexually harassed, like, five different women.

00:59:52.000 Over multiple decades. 0.90

00:59:54.000 Like, I get the swords can come out for anyone at any time, but I think it's pretty different from, like, you said a naughty word, or you said something that offended somebody, and you just, you know, called a secretary while you were masturbating. 0.86

00:59:54.000 Yeah. 0.86

01:00:06.000 I think there's a line, and he found it.

01:00:08.000 He found it.

01:00:09.000 Yeah, he's way beyond it.

01:00:11.000 Speaking of what, we have some great guests next week.

01:00:13.000 We have the distillers at Wild Turkey.

01:00:14.000 We have Tony Bugle coming on.

01:00:16.000 We have, I think we have Mike Rowe next week.

01:00:18.000 Oh, nice.

01:00:19.000 And we have the big concealed carry annual Second Amendment award, April 8th at the Fort Worth Convention Center.

01:00:25.000 So, listen, to go back to what we were talking about, some people were talking about this on Twitter, and also something, by the way, behind the paywall for people who are Mug Club members. 0.98

01:00:34.000 A lot of people like the Own Benjamin segment, where he was talking about people getting offended at the word retarded, and then calling him a moron or idiot.

01:00:41.000 So maybe we should upload that clip to YouTube for non-Mug Club members. 0.93

01:00:44.000 But...

01:00:45.000 Again, it sort of ties in with what we were talking about with the Socratic method.

01:00:49.000 Listen, and Ruben and I touched on this.

01:00:51.000 I try to be as honest as humanly possible with you, and we are so appreciative of our audience.

01:00:58.000 I hope one thing that you notice, and Jared, not get Jared, was talking about this, we never want to take our audience for granted.

01:01:04.000 That's why we're always putting together sketches and Photoshop and big video segments that cost thousands of dollars to produce, and we're always trying to move.

01:01:12.000 They don't all land.

01:01:13.000 Not everything you do when you experiment lands, but we don't just want to sit and talk into a microphone about the same issues everybody else does and just bitch and moan and accomplish nothing because at a certain point, we're not providing you with value.

01:01:26.000 We're not educating you at that point, and we're certainly not entertaining you.

01:01:30.000 On this program, it either has to be informative, enlightening, enlightening, or apparently I also need a vocal coach.

01:01:37.000 It's just Canadian. 0.89

01:01:38.000 Enlightening.

01:01:40.000 Apparently somebody didn't, maybe my wife didn't disclose something to me. 0.97

01:01:44.000 I don't know if HIV makes you mealy-mouthed.

01:01:46.000 I assume it comes with a list, a laundry list of problems.

01:01:49.000 It's not a crime.

01:01:50.000 I assume you would speak more poorly.

01:01:51.000 It either has to be informative, enlightening, Or entertaining.

01:01:55.000 It's got to be one of those, or it doesn't make the cut.

01:01:57.000 Now, sometimes you may say, oh, I can think of a few segments this show that were none of those things.

01:02:01.000 I'll give you that.

01:02:04.000 But we want to be honest with you.

01:02:07.000 And again, I'm not a journalist.

01:02:08.000 We try to list, you see all the overlays and sources.

01:02:12.000 On shorter videos on YouTube, we actually list, or if it's on the website, lightwithcudder.com, we list the sources.

01:02:17.000 On the videos, we actually try to show you the sources, because we don't have time to do everything.

01:02:21.000 But I have an inherent conservative bias, a right-leading bias, more libertarian, classical conservative, classical liberal, depending on what term you want to use, bias.

01:02:30.000 I think everyone in this room would acknowledge that they have a bias.

01:02:35.000 And I don't think that acting as though you're objective, when you're clearly not, and that's the root of critical theory...

01:02:44.000 Trying to erase your bias, I don't think that actually improves honesty, be it through reporting or through discussion.

01:02:50.000 I think it cloaks dishonesty.

01:02:52.000 I think you're probably committing one of the worst crimes as it relates to honesty.

01:02:56.000 You're lying to yourself.

01:02:58.000 If you say, well, you know what?

01:02:59.000 I only care about truth.

01:03:01.000 Great.

01:03:02.000 We care about truth.

01:03:02.000 That's us here.

01:03:03.000 And I try to go into it without any bias.

01:03:05.000 That's not true.

01:03:06.000 You're not capable of doing it.

01:03:08.000 Human beings are not capable of doing that.

01:03:10.000 Now, some are better than others.

01:03:12.000 But the beacon of truth that people hold out is the classic journalism when people just reported the news.

01:03:17.000 Walter Cronkite said you cannot be a journalist and not be a liberal.

01:03:20.000 This was a guy, Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw.

01:03:23.000 I mean, these are people who, in Dan Rather's case, had him or workers for him outright forged documents.

01:03:29.000 Walter Cronkite, who behind closed doors openly talked about how he hated anyone from different points of view from him and how he wouldn't hire them.

01:03:36.000 So my point is, no one is able to escape I think?

01:03:49.000 So to lie to yourself about that, I think, is the first big mistake.

01:03:52.000 And you see a lot of channels and a lot of shows doing that.

01:03:54.000 So we will do that.

01:03:55.000 So I am telling you the opposite, and this is where the Socratic method comes in.

01:03:59.000 I want you to do this.

01:04:00.000 And because we've had those, we've had to correct stories on the site several times, or on this show several times.

01:04:05.000 Gorsuch.

01:04:06.000 There's one.

01:04:07.000 I was saying Gorsuch.

01:04:08.000 And I did it because my EP, who's supposed to have my back, hung me out to dry and corrected me when I said Gorsuch.

01:04:17.000 He tried to verify it on the computer, remember that?

01:04:19.000 As a matter of fact, he tried to confirm his bias by one of them said Gorsuch, and he said, well, that's just a computer talking.

01:04:24.000 And he went to a second one.

01:04:25.000 The computer's gonna know, Gorsuch, well, that's just a computer.

01:04:27.000 He wasn't willing to accept any new information.

01:04:31.000 He was pulling out the Teddy Rockspin.

01:04:32.000 Okay, let's get there.

01:04:34.000 Clearly broken.

01:04:35.000 Yeah, but we've had to issue corrections.

01:04:38.000 I don't think we've ever had to issue an outright retraction before, but we have had to issue corrections.

01:04:42.000 I want you to call me or any of our team on it.

01:04:47.000 That's the only way this program works, is if there seems to be some kind of transparency.

01:04:52.000 And I want you to say, listen, you're biased here.

01:04:54.000 Yeah, I usually admit it.

01:04:55.000 But if you think I'm wrong, you can tell us why we're wrong.

01:04:58.000 That's fine.

01:04:59.000 That's the Socratic method.

01:05:00.000 We try to ask the questions that use the methodology that gets to the truth.

01:05:05.000 Now, because I do have a bias, meaning because I do think I'm right, that's the method I choose to use. 0.99

01:05:13.000 And if I'm wrong, then it bites me in the ass. 0.99

01:05:16.000 Usually, it tends to win out. 0.99

01:05:17.000 That's why, generally speaking, and not always, you see a lot of leftist channels on YouTube who don't want to have this kind of cross-conversation.

01:05:24.000 And I'm not talking about, you know, listen...

01:05:26.000 There are channels on YouTube where their debate is just calling you a naughty word, saying the F word into the microphone and saying it's real talk.

01:05:33.000 I'm not talking about that.

01:05:34.000 I'm talking about people actually out there who want to have these discussions.

01:05:37.000 We have people all the time, Mark Duplass, Dave Rubin, because we believe the Socratic method works in the presence of truth, in the absence of truth.

01:05:45.000 You end up with a lot of egg on your face.

01:05:47.000 And people all the time, too, there's this thing, we've talked about this with leftists, like with Owen Benjamin, where they just take something and they say it enough so that you become embarrassed about it. 0.97

01:05:54.000 For example, someone says, you're a horrible racist and if your best friend is black, right? 0.93

01:05:58.000 Well, that's actually a pretty reasonable counter-argument. 1.00

01:06:01.000 Well, I clearly don't I hate black people because a black person. 0.65

01:06:04.000 So what they do, the left, and this kind of, again, stems from critical theory. 0.95

01:06:09.000 This is social justice warriorism.

01:06:11.000 Stems from critical theory is, oh, watch, watch. 0.99

01:06:13.000 The racist is going to trot out his black friend. 0.99

01:06:15.000 That's what racists do. 1.00

01:06:17.000 That's what they do, right?

01:06:18.000 That's the normal thing, right?

01:06:19.000 Let's see.

01:06:20.000 And so people get afraid to do it.

01:06:22.000 But guess what?

01:06:23.000 That's not what racists do. 0.98

01:06:25.000 Racists don't have black friends! 0.60

01:06:28.000 But they just say that's what racists do, so that then you're afraid to do it, and they just take something that is, you know, are you telling me? 0.98

01:06:36.000 Watch, watch.

01:06:37.000 He's going to say that the government doesn't need to provide free school, but should create bomber airplanes for Air Force.

01:06:43.000 Watch.

01:06:45.000 Yeah.

01:06:46.000 Yeah.

01:06:47.000 Because we know Hitler had a couple Jewish poker buddies later on, just for that kind of thing. 0.95

01:06:51.000 Every good racist has a couple good black friends. 0.97

01:06:54.000 They handle the money! 0.98

01:06:54.000 No! 0.98

01:06:55.000 Just for...

01:06:56.000 This is what the left often does.

01:06:58.000 And that stems from taking something that's normal or heteronormative in society and immediately assuming that that's incorrect.

01:07:06.000 And the left will take things that are perfectly reasonable for you to say or perfectly reasonable for you to feel or perfectly reasonable for you to substantiate a belief and just preempt it by saying, that is...

01:07:16.000 Insert racist, sexist, homophobic.

01:07:19.000 And people have become so scared. 0.82

01:07:21.000 And this is on college campus.

01:07:23.000 They've become so scared.

01:07:24.000 They're afraid to say things that these are truths that we know to be self-evident.

01:07:28.000 I hope that we see that done away with.

01:07:32.000 And that's why we do it with Donald Trump or Bill O'Reilly.

01:07:34.000 That's why we do it with conservatives.

01:07:35.000 We've got to make fun of it.

01:07:36.000 Comedy is pretty liberating in that sense.

01:07:38.000 We've got to be consistent.

01:07:39.000 We've got to question the why.

01:07:40.000 And we can do so while still acknowledging and being honest about the inherent biases that we have.

01:07:46.000 They don't need to be separated.

01:07:48.000 And I think that stems from a lie, again, that comes from the left, where you're inherently altruistic if you're being completely nonpartisan.

01:07:56.000 Well, that was a good example.

01:07:57.000 That happened under Barack Obama.

01:07:59.000 Remember, all of a sudden, when Barack Obama was president, the same people who were forwarding pictures of George Bush next to a chimpanzee, all of a sudden, there were PSAs about civility.

01:08:07.000 Let's be civil.

01:08:09.000 And civility became the virtue above all other virtues, above honesty.

01:08:13.000 And now we see the virtue above all else is we have tradition, we have precedent when it comes to a Supreme Court nominee.

01:08:19.000 Again, this is just trying to challenge a status quo or whatever people see as normal or whatever people see as healthful or productive.

01:08:25.000 It doesn't necessarily mean that it's right.

01:08:27.000 and if nothing else with this program I hope that you see we try to be honest about it and we constantly use the secretic method we constantly try to give you the tools to be able to make these judgments for yourself I don't want this to be the only show Frankly, I don't want the pressure.

01:08:41.000 And I also don't think that you'll be as informed as you would be if you set to your favorite tabs, Huffington Post.

01:08:49.000 Salon.com, Slate, that's what I've got.

01:08:51.000 Most of our news comes from liberal sources on this website.

01:08:54.000 You'll look at our overlays.

01:08:55.000 That's not we reverse engineer our stories and try to find liberal stories.

01:08:59.000 We get almost all of our news from leftist sources because we constantly want to be aware of what they're thinking.

01:09:04.000 And that's why we're able to ask and zone in on the questions that shine a light on it.

01:09:08.000 Again, that's the Socratic method.

01:09:09.000 It can only work...

01:09:11.000 In the presence of truth.

01:09:12.000 We can only use leftist sources for comedy to point out how absurd it is if there's truth.

01:09:18.000 The Socratic method requires truth.

01:09:20.000 Comedy requires truth.

01:09:21.000 And we don't want to be the only place you're watching that does either of those things.

01:09:27.000 So please, do me a favor as you move forward this week.

01:09:31.000 Set HuffPo to your favorites.

01:09:33.000 All the things you hate in the world, I want you to read about them, and I want you to read about them from people you hate most in this world.

01:09:41.000 Then get back to me next week and see how that Socratic method works out for you.

01:09:45.000 See you then, Mug Club members.

Louder with Crowder - April 07, 2017

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