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00:03:16.000 We have the return of He's Been Traveling, Europe, All That, New York, Dean K. We're probably not on good terms.

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00:03:37.000 That and horrible jokes.

00:03:39.000 Also, we'll be talking about Vox Sanctuary Cities.

00:03:42.000 That's pretty big right now.

00:03:44.000 It's obviously in the news, and Vox released a video.

00:03:46.000 I've had a lot of requests this week saying, hey, can you get into the Sanctuary City thing?

00:03:50.000 I don't exactly understand what this is.

00:03:51.000 So we will talk about that.

00:03:53.000 But leading this off, the reviews for Bill Nye's series we talked about earlier this week are in.

00:03:59.000 Bill Nye's series on Netflix, panned by critics.

00:04:03.000 It's been plagued by low ratings, and it seems like it's going to be canceled.

00:04:06.000 Bill Nye's allegedly been returning, or planning on returning, to his previous day job of not science.

00:04:14.000 Poor guy.

00:04:17.000 What can you say?

00:04:18.000 Another big thing, Joy Behar, did you see this?

00:04:19.000 Joy Behar is in hot water because she compared illegal immigrants to slaves and Jews in the Holocaust.

00:04:25.000 It's one of those things when you're thinking about, well, how do you write comedy?

00:04:27.000 She already went to slavery and Jews in the Holocaust. 0.98

00:04:31.000 Usually if someone compares it to slavery, you're like, oh, and someone compared this to Jews in the Holocaust because we're taking it more extreme.

00:04:37.000 She just snatched up all the comedy potential. 1.00

00:04:40.000 She let them know where to go.

00:04:42.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:04:43.000 Which actually, I mean...

00:04:45.000 In comparison, Whoopi Goldberg, her frustrated rant pales recently on her tepid morning coffee being compared to Hurricane Katrina.

00:04:53.000 She seems like she didn't...

00:04:55.000 She knows now.

00:04:58.000 She knows now.

00:04:59.000 To walk a mile in their soggy shoes, Whoopi.

00:05:02.000 Rob Schneider, this is big in the news right now because he tweeted it out.

00:05:05.000 Surprised a lot of people.

00:05:06.000 Rob Schneider came out and spoke out against Berkeley and the suppression of free speech.

00:05:10.000 You know, he used to be a liberal, Rob Schneider.

00:05:12.000 Yeah.

00:05:12.000 And he's been coming out more and more.

00:05:14.000 It doesn't surprise me hanging out with the Sandler guys.

00:05:16.000 They tend to be kind of more libertarian.

00:05:18.000 And I'm glad to see some celebrities speaking out with this.

00:05:20.000 It really is funny.

00:05:21.000 Obviously, it's not funny, but the irony in Antifa being nothing but fascists. 0.88

00:05:25.000 Yeah.

00:05:26.000 Is not lost on people like Rob Schneider, apparently.

00:05:29.000 Though some did question his motivations because Berkeley, and I can kind of understand, they put an official moratorium on the upcoming release, Deuce Bigelow 3 Fascist Gigolo.

00:05:39.000 So it seems like they had a little bit more of a reason.

00:05:43.000 How big is a bird on the foot?

00:05:44.000 That's impressive.

00:05:45.000 I don't know.

00:05:47.000 We spend no expense here at Lauder with Crowder.

00:05:50.000 So here's something else that happened at Berkeley.

00:05:51.000 It just went viral.

00:05:53.000 It was lighting the Twitter ablaze.

00:05:54.000 So before we get to Sanctuary Cities, this is the last topic we think we needed to hit on because, gosh, it was flooding my Twitter timeline and we wrote about it at ladderwithcrowder.com.

00:06:03.000 At Berkeley, this person was crumpling up a Donald Trump flag, I guess you would say, sort of like a promotional banner.

00:06:12.000 And someone called them out for it.

00:06:15.000 And this person who is transgender...

00:06:17.000 Does what transgenders at Berkeley do. 1.00

00:06:21.000 Watch the clip.

00:06:22.000 Yeah, there's a big man.

00:06:25.000 Oh yeah.

00:06:27.000 I'm not a man.

00:06:29.000 I'm not a man. 1.00

00:06:29.000 F*** you. 1.00

00:06:31.000 I'm a f***ing woman. 1.00

00:06:33.000 F***ing respect that. 0.99

00:06:38.000 Wait a minute. 0.98

00:06:39.000 I don't even know what's happening.

00:06:41.000 Here's the honest-to-God truth, and maybe we'll have Blair White be a tiebreaker later. 0.51

00:06:48.000 I read the story at Campus Reform first, and it just said this transgender individual.

00:06:54.000 Yeah.

00:06:55.000 Which, for those who are wondering, it answers nothing.

00:06:59.000 What do you think?

00:07:00.000 One may say it poses more questions.

00:07:02.000 It creates more questions.

00:07:04.000 Because, what do you think?

00:07:05.000 Do you think this is a male-to-female transgender, or do you think that's a female-to-male?

00:07:09.000 Is it confirmed transgender?

00:07:11.000 They just wrote transgenders when the story first came out.

00:07:13.000 Transgender.

00:07:14.000 It could be a mistaken identity thing, though.

00:07:15.000 I can see why.

00:07:17.000 What do you think, Gerald?

00:07:18.000 I mean, look, look at...

00:07:20.000 Do you think male to female transgender?

00:07:21.000 Do you think it's female to male transgender at that point?

00:07:24.000 I'm going to go with male to female. 0.88

00:07:27.000 You think it's male to female?

00:07:28.000 Who still dresses and looks like a male? 0.99

00:07:31.000 On accident.

00:07:32.000 I don't know how much thought...

00:07:33.000 And you had a different theory altogether.

00:07:35.000 I think, looking at this individual, it looks like, I would guess, lesbian, actually. 0.92

00:07:42.000 You just think it's a big old standard lesbian? 1.00

00:07:44.000 I think we're so quick to pull the training trigger...

00:07:48.000 We don't consider...

00:07:49.000 Trannies are quick to pull the trigger, unfortunately. 1.00

00:07:52.000 We don't consider it a good old-fashioned, like...

00:07:54.000 I won't lie, that did cross my mind as well.

00:07:59.000 Honestly, it is hard to identify, which is, you know, this is what Bill Nye should be using, which is why we go to science.

00:08:06.000 It is important that you know this is not a mainstream tranny. 1.00

00:08:11.000 This is actually the Campusus Transtuticus.

00:08:14.000 Okay.

00:08:15.000 Which is, as it's known scientifically, this is actually found exclusively on campuses, not to be confused with its parent species, just the average mainstream tranny. 0.99

00:08:24.000 Because on campus, when you add gender fluidity, of course, the idea of pansexual, there are multiple combinations.

00:08:30.000 It's true.

00:08:31.000 So in analyzing the specimen using science, we can actually get to the bottom of this.

00:08:37.000 We can make an inference.

00:08:38.000 Let's do it.

00:08:39.000 Science!

00:08:39.000 So, okay, in the male to female column, that this might be a male to female transgender.

00:08:43.000 Right away, height.

00:08:44.000 Obviously, clear-cut, very tall individual.

00:08:46.000 That adds a 20% likelihood that this person is a male.

00:08:50.000 Co-factor with that is the circumference, the diameter.

00:08:54.000 As a matter of fact, it's an exponential gain, not necessarily linear.

00:08:57.000 But we're just going, for the sake of argument here, a 60% increased chance of it being a male.

00:09:02.000 I don't know if you see this there, Gerald, the cleft chin?

00:09:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:06.000 That makes a 14% more likely chance of it being a male.

00:09:11.000 So that would seem, if you look at the percentages, which I didn't before this, I didn't add it up at all.

00:09:17.000 So please don't fact check our math.

00:09:19.000 It would seem pretty heavy this is likely a male.

00:09:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:21.000 Well, okay, because this person says I'm a woman, but why would a male to female transgender look so much like a man? 0.92

00:09:28.000 So there is an argument to be made that this is a person who is a female to male transgender, but who is fluid and identifies as a female.

00:09:35.000 So in the female to male column, there are some things to look for when analyzing the subspecies.

00:09:40.000 First off, the complete and total lack of muscle tone.

00:09:43.000 As you see, that would be a 40% chance likely to this female. 0.99

00:09:47.000 Here, the obvious subcontaneous mammary tissue, 32%.

00:09:51.000 More likely to be a female. 0.94

00:09:53.000 If you look at the vocal tones and the body language, it displays great emotional instability.

00:09:57.000 82% more likelihood that it's a female.

00:09:59.000 Right there.

00:10:00.000 And then, of course, this individual claims to be a female, but on campus, that only increases the likelihood of them being an actual female by 1%.

00:10:07.000 We should note that with these studies, there is a plus-minus percentage point of inaccuracy.

00:10:13.000 So, statistically, it gets us into murky territory.

00:10:18.000 So, male to female, female to male. 0.60

00:10:20.000 Any of you change your opinions?

00:10:22.000 No, I'm sticking with it.

00:10:24.000 Because there's some detective work.

00:10:26.000 Something.

00:10:26.000 Upon further inspection.

00:10:27.000 Close up, Not Gay Jared. 1.00

00:10:28.000 When you look at the shirt, the shirt says leftover crack, purgatory. 0.95

00:10:34.000 And right there, upon further examination, a cat pun t-shirt gives it 100% likely that this is just your run-of-the-mill homosexual thing. 0.98

00:10:42.000 Scientifically known as the faggist flamboyacist, 100%. 0.98

00:10:45.000 Ooh! 0.96

00:10:46.000 Solve that mystery.

00:10:48.000 Gosh, that was tough.

00:10:49.000 Thank you, science.

00:10:50.000 We can't understand.

00:10:51.000 There's no rulebook for this.

00:10:53.000 You see how hard this is?

00:10:53.000 You see what you're doing to us?

00:10:55.000 I'm a woman.

00:10:56.000 Oh, gosh.

00:10:57.000 What?

00:10:57.000 And what's so funny is the leftist sites were trying to say this person was provoking the transgender.

00:11:01.000 If you watch the video, the person goes, oh, what a big man you are, crumpling up a flag. 0.86

00:11:05.000 I'm a woman.

00:11:06.000 And the guy doesn't respond with a smartass comment.

00:11:08.000 He just goes...

00:11:11.000 Can you blame me for not knowing that?

00:11:13.000 I don't think he set out to insult a transgender that day.

00:11:16.000 I think he just was upset at someone behaving like a child, crumpling up a... 0.92

00:11:21.000 By the way, he has a Nazi patch.

00:11:23.000 Where do you buy the Nazi patch outside of actual Nazi Germany?

00:11:28.000 I don't know.

00:11:28.000 I don't know how this person found time to do that outside of fighting the Incredibles.

00:11:35.000 Because when everyone's special, no one is.

00:11:37.000 All right.

00:11:38.000 Nice.

00:11:39.000 Vox Sanctuary Cities.

00:11:40.000 This is something a lot of people wanted me to get into Sanctuary Cities, describe exactly what it was.

00:11:44.000 And I was going to do it this week, but Vox beat me to it this week. 0.99

00:11:48.000 And here's the thing.

00:11:49.000 If someone disagrees with me, we'll have Blair White who disagrees with me on some issues. 0.55

00:11:52.000 If someone disagrees with some points of view on this show, that's fine.

00:11:56.000 I don't have an issue with MSNBC. You don't really hear us taking a lot of shots at MSNBC, much more so CNN, because Chris Cuomo thinks of himself as, my God, an actual journalist.

00:12:05.000 So when Vox goes out and tries to act as though they're simply describing what a sanctuary city is and what's occurring in practice, and you draw your own conclusions when it's clearly biased reporting, that's where my antenna go up.

00:12:20.000 So let's let Vox describe for you what a sanctuary city is.

00:12:25.000 Sure.

00:12:25.000 What are sanctuary cities?

00:12:27.000 They're cities and counties in the U.S. that limit their cooperation with immigration enforcement, which falls under federal jurisdiction.

00:12:35.000 These policies are different in different places.

00:12:37.000 In Chicago, it means city employees aren't supposed to share residents' immigration status with other people.

00:12:43.000 In Washington, D.C., it means police officers are barred from asking residents about their immigration status.

00:12:50.000 That's actually fair enough, I would say.

00:12:52.000 That's pretty accurate.

00:12:52.000 Sure.

00:12:53.000 For people who, what, you seem suspicious.

00:12:55.000 Makes me hate Washington and Chicago.

00:12:58.000 Fair!

00:13:00.000 They're explaining the situation.

00:13:01.000 But they are explaining it.

00:13:03.000 I actually think that's a pretty fair initial explanation.

00:13:05.000 It basically comes down to cities, and cities that don't have to enforce the federal immigration law.

00:13:12.000 Because federally, coming here illegally, is...

00:13:15.000 A crime.

00:13:15.000 Keyword there, illegally, it's a crime, and the punishment for that crime is really just being deported.

00:13:20.000 That's pretty lenient punishment if you think about it.

00:13:22.000 Punishment is, eh, you end up back in your room.

00:13:24.000 It's a go-to-your-room timeout.

00:13:26.000 Only forever. 1.00

00:13:28.000 And your room is a crap hole if you come from Mexico. 1.00

00:13:30.000 So, that's what's happening. 0.99

00:13:32.000 It is local law enforcement in certain cities not being required or refusing to carry out national immigration orders.

00:13:42.000 So, it...

00:13:44.000 A couple of things there.

00:13:45.000 I hate to use the word nuance.

00:13:47.000 There's a little bit more to it to that, and we'll get into the rebuttal more with Vox here.

00:13:51.000 But that is what it is.

00:13:52.000 It really comes down to the feds versus local.

00:13:54.000 It's like every old cop movie you've ever seen.

00:13:57.000 Oh, criminy, it's the feds. 1.00

00:13:59.000 All right, kids, scram.

00:14:00.000 This is my beat now.

00:14:01.000 Hey, what's the big idea?

00:14:02.000 I've been working this case for four years.

00:14:04.000 Four years?

00:14:05.000 There's one thing you better have.

00:14:07.000 What's that?

00:14:07.000 A good retirement package.

00:14:09.000 Ah, get out of here.

00:14:10.000 Ah, I'll scram.

00:14:11.000 I'll beat it.

00:14:12.000 I'll beat it again.

00:14:13.000 You know nothing.

00:14:13.000 Yeah, low light.

00:14:15.000 Why can't you two just get along?

00:14:17.000 So, okay, next clip.

00:14:19.000 Next clip from Vox.

00:14:20.000 But often, it comes down to this: How does a local police officer handle an unauthorized immigrant that he's already arrested for some other reason?

00:14:30.000 Was that a question?

00:14:32.000 Deport him! 0.98

00:14:34.000 Deport the person who's here illegally! 1.00

00:14:37.000 It's pretty simple. 0.94

00:14:40.000 I don't understand.

00:14:41.000 Is this multiple choice?

00:14:44.000 We didn't use an H2 pencil.

00:14:48.000 It didn't go through the Scantron.

00:14:50.000 B, if you need other options, please retire from law enforcement.

00:14:54.000 Please refer to A. What?

00:14:56.000 Give me your badge and your gun.

00:14:57.000 Okay, if that's not enough, if that doesn't seem like the argument is substantiated enough that, hey, you should enforce the law and deport an illegal immigrant, let me throw some numbers at you. 0.91

00:15:06.000 An illegal immigrant, we've talked about this on the show before, costs the taxpayers about $5,000 annually.

00:15:11.000 The cost of incarcerating a felon or one of these illegal immigrants can be $32,000 if they're being arrested for committing a serious crime. 0.97

00:15:20.000 Comparably, flying them home, courtesy of Ice Air, is between $700 and $2,000. 0.88

00:15:25.000 Also, they're a criminal!

00:15:28.000 So, you've captured someone here illegally.

00:15:32.000 Why?

00:15:32.000 Through an auxiliary crime which they were committing.

00:15:35.000 You've captured them committing another crime.

00:15:36.000 That's how you've pulled them over, or you've arrested them.

00:15:39.000 And then you happen to find out that they're also here illegally.

00:15:43.000 Two double secret crimes.

00:15:44.000 Merry Christmas, Officer Krupp.

00:15:46.000 It's been gift-wrapped for you!

00:15:49.000 Next clip.

00:15:50.000 Word gets out around the immigrant community.

00:15:52.000 Anytime you interact with local police, it could mean deportation.

00:15:56.000 Eventually, immigrants will be afraid to call the police, even when they're the victims of crime or the witnesses to it. 0.72

00:16:02.000 And then immigrants become easy targets.

00:16:06.000 What?

00:16:08.000 So if you deport illegal immigrants, other criminals will be afraid to interact with the police?

00:16:16.000 Yes.

00:16:17.000 Here's the thing, too.

00:16:18.000 This is the crux of their argument, too.

00:16:20.000 Let me preface this.

00:16:21.000 They get into very quickly the constitutionality.

00:16:23.000 Now, constitutionally, local law enforcement are not required to enforce federal law, basically law enforcement that would fall under federal jurisdictions.

00:16:31.000 Okay?

00:16:32.000 However, they're not really being asked to enforce something that would fall under federal jurisdiction.

00:16:37.000 What they're being asked to do is provide a 48-hour waiting period for ICE to come in.

00:16:43.000 Basically like, okay, hold on!

00:16:45.000 I'll get my keys!

00:16:45.000 I'm coming to pick them up!

00:16:46.000 They're just asking local law enforcement to keep them there long enough so that ICE can come in and do their job and deport these people illegally.

00:16:52.000 But let's go with the crux of their argument here, which again goes back to the science of feelings, right?

00:16:57.000 As Bill Nye talked about it.

00:16:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:00.000 The premise, do you really think that illegal immigrants right now are calling their local man in blue, backing the blue fervently for peace disturbances or domestic disputes?

00:17:15.000 Los Angeles Police Department.

00:17:17.000 Hey man, yeah, like my neighbors are playing their music really loud.

00:17:22.000 Okay, can I have their address and your name, sir? 0.99

00:17:25.000 Shit. 0.99

00:17:28.000 What? 1.00

00:17:33.000 They are crafty.

00:17:34.000 They need to bring in the feds. 0.98

00:17:36.000 Okay, since Vox is...

00:17:37.000 Hopefully you've realized what's happened.

00:17:39.000 They described Sanctuary Cities accurately.

00:17:42.000 We are far off on speculation here at this point.

00:17:45.000 And we fully admit we provide opinion on this show.

00:17:49.000 And fact check us.

00:17:51.000 That's fine.

00:17:51.000 Sometimes we're wrong.

00:17:53.000 Okay, but Vox is trying to present this as a non-partisan view of sanctuary cities.

00:17:57.000 So since Vox is speculating here that in what is supposed to be a non-biased video, let's think this through.

00:18:03.000 What is it?

00:18:03.000 Play it through, as Gavin says.

00:18:04.000 Do you really think the net result of enforcing deportation laws will be that tax-paying, police-compliant citizens in a Latino paradise will now become an enclave to crime? 1.00

00:18:15.000 I don't think the evidence will bear that out.

00:18:17.000 As a matter of fact, I think the evidence will show a very contrarian conclusion.

00:18:21.000 In late January 2017, shortly after he got into office, President Donald Trump signed an executive order that opens the door to withholding federal funds from sanctuary cities or counties.

00:18:33.000 The wording of that order is vague and it's already being challenged in federal court.

00:18:37.000 But if Trump's plan does move forward, it could put local law enforcement officers across the country in a lose-lose situation.

00:18:44.000 For them, deciding whether to honor a detainer request is often about choosing between financial security on one hand and public safety on the other.

00:18:53.000 What?

00:18:55.000 First off, what?

00:18:56.000 And yes!

00:18:58.000 Yes, exactly!

00:18:59.000 Okay, if a policeman, sometimes called a lawman, refuses to enforce...

00:19:05.000 I've seen the Steven Seagal show.

00:19:06.000 If they refuse to enforce the law that ensures the safety and order of its citizenry, the higher-ups or even the taxpayers who fund those who are supposed to carry out the law sometimes cut the purse strings for the lawman.

00:19:18.000 Was anyone else not aware of this sort of unwritten...

00:19:21.000 Well, actually written, but for most people...

00:19:23.000 I thought this was in the contract.

00:19:26.000 Can't get it.

00:19:27.000 If you don't enforce the law, we remove law from your title.

00:19:31.000 And you're just a man or a woman anymore. 0.92

00:19:33.000 They're like, sir, I'm going to give you $20 for a pepperoni pizza.

00:19:36.000 Okay, that's a spicy meatball, because that's what they say.

00:19:38.000 And then they take your money, but they don't give you a pizza.

00:19:42.000 And the owner of that place says, well, you know what?

00:19:42.000 Yeah.

00:19:43.000 We're going to fire you.

00:19:44.000 Why?

00:19:45.000 Because he didn't make pizzas.

00:19:46.000 Is that hate speech? 0.98

00:19:47.000 You racist. 0.98

00:19:48.000 Well, the meatball was. 0.98

00:19:50.000 But the analogy remains.

00:19:52.000 Next clip.

00:19:54.000 If the federal government issues a detainer request and the local police department refuses to accept it, the state government can step in by taking away one of the state funding streams from the local police.

00:20:05.000 That's what happened in Texas in 2017.

00:20:09.000 The governor of the great state of Texas, Greg Abbott, has declared he will sign a law banning sanctuary cities.

00:20:16.000 He's already issued an order that cuts funding to those sanctuary cities.

00:20:20.000 This is dangerous and I will not allow it as governor of Texas.

00:20:24.000 Okay, here we go.

00:20:26.000 Vox's argument, as we see, rests entirely on feelings.

00:20:29.000 Again, they're claiming public safety here.

00:20:31.000 This is the argument.

00:20:32.000 They're saying, well, cops have to choose between deporting illegal immigrants or public safety.

00:20:37.000 Or cooperation.

00:20:38.000 Yeah, or public safety.

00:20:39.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:20:40.000 What does that mean?

00:20:41.000 Does that mean, are we talking safety of legal immigrants who obey the laws on a day-to-day basis?

00:20:48.000 Are we compromising their safety by deporting illegal immigrants?

00:20:51.000 Enforcing deportation makes them less safe?

00:20:53.000 I'd like to see a reference on this from Vox.

00:20:55.000 Any reference.

00:20:56.000 Or are we talking about public safety specifically of communities consisting of illegal aliens because they might live in fear of actual laws being enforced?

00:21:04.000 It's like they're arguing for drug dealers.

00:21:06.000 Hey, somebody stole my drugs.

00:21:08.000 Can you, uh...

00:21:09.000 What?

00:21:09.000 You know what's going to happen.

00:21:10.000 You're going to get trumped. 0.97

00:21:11.000 They're going to say that you just called all Mexicans drug dealers. 0.95

00:21:13.000 No, no.

00:21:13.000 Just comparing it.

00:21:14.000 Just comparing it's criminals.

00:21:16.000 Gosh.

00:21:17.000 Jeez.

00:21:17.000 So, instead of that hypothetical that Vox presupposes, let's look at the evidence here.

00:21:21.000 Guess what?

00:21:22.000 Illegal immigrants here tend to commit significant amounts of crime. 1.00

00:21:26.000 Not all immigrants, not all immigrants are committing crime, but crime is high in the illegal immigrant community. 1.00

00:21:32.000 It turns out when you skirt the law and flagrantly disregard the law to get here, and you're not even on the books for the law to find you, you may not have a ton of respect for the law.

00:21:43.000 And this is the single issue that brought Donald Trump to power.

00:21:48.000 Because people who are here legally, and I come from a family.

00:21:52.000 Not a family.

00:21:53.000 My mom is French-Canadian.

00:21:54.000 She didn't even speak the language.

00:21:55.000 She learned the language.

00:21:55.000 She's a tax-paying citizen.

00:21:56.000 I am the biggest advocate of doing it right by the books that you can find.

00:22:00.000 But people are tired of the illegal immigration, and this is what brought Donald Trump to power.

00:22:05.000 Everyone thought that he was racist, and they said, Donald Trump's racist for wanting to enforce the laws.

00:22:09.000 Let's paint him, let's tar and feather him, and the American people will try and distance themselves from the racism of believing and enforcing immigration laws.

00:22:17.000 No.

00:22:17.000 He won, and now arrests of undocumented immigrants have gone up 32%.

00:22:21.000 And guess what the result of that is?

00:22:24.000 I'm going to guess the immigration might be down a spidge. 0.99

00:22:30.000 Down 61%.

00:22:31.000 The immigration down 61% since election day.

00:22:35.000 Even PolitiFact says it's mostly true. 0.99

00:22:37.000 And mostly because apparently we need more data to be drawn on this and also because it's PolitiFact and they suck.

00:22:43.000 So even they say mostly true, 61% since election day.

00:22:48.000 Significant.

00:22:49.000 What is the net result here, if we think about it?

00:22:51.000 Is the net result, again, if you start enforcing immigration laws, all that's going to happen is we're going to see communities decimated and people are going to be less safe?

00:22:58.000 Or if you enforce immigration laws on illegal immigrants, instead of sauntering on over and having every Tom, Dick, and Harry and member of the Latin Kings following suit, they're going to say, Don't come! 1.00

00:23:09.000 This guy, you mean what he say!

00:23:12.000 You mean what he say!

00:23:13.000 I can't!

00:23:14.000 They fly me back on ice air!

00:23:15.000 You mean what he say! 0.96

00:23:17.000 No freaking flower mouths. 0.98

00:23:19.000 He wants a blackout baby, man! - - It's not playing around! 0.99

00:23:30.000 I thought I was getting double miles that old blackout day!

00:23:35.000 God!

00:23:38.000 So maybe when we're seeing, we're going to get lit.

00:23:41.000 And I'm the one that's in trouble.

00:23:42.000 You're in trouble.

00:23:43.000 I didn't say they were drug dealers.

00:23:44.000 I just did a racist accent.

00:23:45.000 So maybe, when you look at the result, we deport illegal immigrants, illegal immigration goes down, and crime seems to go down in cities with illegal immigration along with it. 0.59

00:23:57.000 Maybe, maybe, just maybe the public safety issue that we're talking about, the public safety, meaning those who are legally documented, law-abiding citizens, Maybe all of this evidence points toward the fact that the goals are not incongruent, that police don't have to decide between enforcing immigration laws and keeping the public safe, but that actually enforcing immigration laws does keep the public safe.

00:24:22.000 Oh, Vox, you almost had us too. 0.96

00:24:26.000 Dean Cain coming up next.

00:24:28.000 Home Body Break with Steven Crowder and Not Gay Jerry. .

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00:25:28.000 Home Body Break with Steven Crowder and Not Gay Jared. 0.90

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00:25:59.000 I figured our next guest would appreciate the kata because that's actually, it's a big part of the ancient Japanese way.

00:26:04.000 And I think he's like a 16th Japanese. 1.00

00:26:05.000 What is he anyway?

00:26:06.000 I don't know.

00:26:07.000 Why is he?

00:26:08.000 But you know him.

00:26:10.000 You love him.

00:26:10.000 He's one of the regulars here on Ladder with Crowder.

00:26:12.000 at real Dean Cain, and you and Dean are good.

00:26:14.000 We're good now.

00:26:16.000 Dean, thanks for being on the show, brother.

00:26:17.000 We're good.

00:26:18.000 We're good now.

00:26:19.000 I thought we talked about this.

00:26:21.000 Yeah, let's talk about it afterwards.

00:26:22.000 Oh, you said don't talk about it on the air.

00:26:24.000 That's fine with me.

00:26:25.000 Let's just avoid talking about it now.

00:26:27.000 That's fine with me.

00:26:27.000 You go ahead and be that way, Jared.

00:26:29.000 We'll just push it to the side for now.

00:26:31.000 So you've been hosting the Today Show a lot, and you were talking about your recent project there.

00:26:35.000 Tell us about this documentary, because I wanted to talk about something else from your Twitter, because as you know, that's always news now.

00:26:42.000 But tell me about this documentary first.

00:26:45.000 Alright, there's two documentaries.

00:26:46.000 One's a feature.

00:26:47.000 It's called Architects of Denial.

00:26:49.000 It comes out October 6th.

00:26:50.000 And the other is a television special.

00:26:53.000 It comes out later in the fall.

00:26:55.000 And they're both dealing with genocide in a way.

00:26:59.000 Specifically, Architects of Denial is dealing with genocides that occur all over the world and have occurred.

00:27:05.000 Specifically targeting the Armenian Genocide that started in 1915 until 1923.

00:27:11.000 Where 1.5 million Armenians were killed, 900,000 Greeks and 750,000 Assyrians, just a whole bunch of people, awful stuff. 0.99

00:27:19.000 We hadn't even coined the term genocide at that point in time.

00:27:22.000 It didn't catch on.

00:27:24.000 It became more of a fad later on, the genocide.

00:27:27.000 It wasn't hot yet.

00:27:28.000 Well, you know, the honest truth is Hitler has that quote and he says, you know, after all, who remembers the Armenians?

00:27:34.000 And that's what it's about.

00:27:35.000 Because if you don't call it what it is and you don't name it and label it, you can just pretend, you know, it never existed.

00:27:41.000 It's that history written by the victors kind of thing.

00:27:43.000 So this documentary goes and explores that, goes through it all, provides it more incontrovertible proof.

00:27:49.000 And it's hopefully something that can shine a light on the situation.

00:27:54.000 So people like – there are people who deny it.

00:27:57.000 Do you know anybody who denies it?

00:27:58.000 Yeah, well, you know, it's funny that you lay that up for me.

00:28:00.000 Cenk from The Young Turks, he wrote a whole – yes, he wrote a whole – I don't know who lays up like this.

00:28:05.000 Is that – what kind of – It's a figural.

00:28:07.000 You've got to be high up.

00:28:09.000 You've got to be real high up.

00:28:11.000 Apparently Dean Cain moonlights the Harlem Globetrotter.

00:28:13.000 He does!

00:28:15.000 I knew about this.

00:28:16.000 Yeah, there are some people out there who deny it.

00:28:18.000 And I'll be honest, I don't know a ton about it outside of what I've read because I knew that this guy denied it.

00:28:24.000 We briefly touched on it in history class, and I thought, well, you know, hold on a second.

00:28:28.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:28:29.000 Oh, nice mug there.

00:28:29.000 I thought, maybe I'm wrong.

00:28:31.000 And then when I looked into it, it did seem like incontrovertible proof.

00:28:35.000 Why is it an issue that some people deny ever occurred?

00:28:40.000 You'd have to ask Chink that question. 1.00

00:28:41.000 I'd love to see him on your show.

00:28:43.000 That'd be fantastic.

00:28:44.000 I would watch that for sure.

00:28:44.000 I'd love to see that.

00:28:46.000 I think, you know, and even calling themselves the Young Turks, I mean, those are the groups that perpetrated the genocide. 0.78

00:28:46.000 Yes. 0.78

00:28:51.000 It's unbelievable.

00:28:52.000 Yeah.

00:28:53.000 People deny it because it's ugly.

00:28:55.000 You know, there's a lot of things you don't want to face.

00:28:57.000 You look at the stuff that we did, you know, in the United States to the Native American population.

00:29:02.000 There's some ugly stuff.

00:29:03.000 But if you own it, you can move on.

00:29:05.000 You can call it what it is and you move on.

00:29:06.000 Obviously, I didn't do it.

00:29:07.000 You didn't do it.

00:29:08.000 But our ancestors did.

00:29:10.000 That's what took place, and calling it what it is is very important.

00:29:13.000 People want to deny it, they want to make it go away and pretend it never existed.

00:29:16.000 It's like, you know, the Iranians denying the Holocaust. 0.93

00:29:20.000 Good luck with that, but, you know, Ahmadinejad, I remember seeing him go, oh, there was no Holocaust. 0.70

00:29:25.000 That kind of stuff is insane. 0.99

00:29:26.000 Also, none of our men here like dick. 0.99

00:29:29.000 It does not happen in Iran. 1.00

00:29:32.000 They're all about the Punani! 1.00

00:29:34.000 You stop!

00:29:35.000 It goes back to Baghdad Bob, you know? 0.93

00:29:37.000 The Americans are committing suicide by the hundreds at the gates of Baghdad!

00:29:41.000 No, bro, they're not.

00:29:42.000 No, no, no, they're not.

00:29:45.000 As a matter of fact, if you look at the heat-seeking cameras from the American war jets going overhead, you can just see guys in the hills.

00:29:54.000 They get lonely!

00:29:56.000 Dean, let me ask you this.

00:29:57.000 So you tweeted this out, and I don't want to be one of the guys who just, boom, catchy headline.

00:30:01.000 Someone said you should run for office, and you did say you were seriously considering that now.

00:30:07.000 Because we've asked you that before, and you're like, ah, probably not.

00:30:10.000 Are you seriously considering that, or was that tongue-in-cheek?

00:30:13.000 And do you need a running mate?

00:30:16.000 Hopper and I, let's do it again.

00:30:18.000 You know, here's the thing.

00:30:20.000 There's times where politics are – my business is ugly.

00:30:23.000 It's ugly, but politics is really ugly.

00:30:25.000 Not when you're in it.

00:30:28.000 I'm looking at our new senator, our newly elected senator from California, our U.S. senator, Kamala Harris, and the things she was tweeting – I've never looked at her Twitter feed.

00:30:38.000 I started looking at her Twitter feed and I started losing my mind.

00:30:41.000 One of them in particular was, an undocumented immigrant is not a criminal.

00:30:48.000 Yes, it is. 0.99

00:30:50.000 Yes, you are a criminal. 0.99

00:30:51.000 So I tweeted back, in what country? 1.00

00:30:54.000 In what country?

00:30:55.000 Because pick another country.

00:30:57.000 You try to go to Canada or Mexico or somewhere in Europe, guess what? 1.00

00:31:02.000 You're a criminal. 0.97

00:31:03.000 Well, Mexico, they're pretty rough on that, too. 0.99

00:31:05.000 You don't necessarily get out unscathed.

00:31:07.000 Did she respond to you?

00:31:08.000 No, of course not.

00:31:09.000 Well, I don't know.

00:31:10.000 I mean, you're still Dean Cain, so I thought you might be like, oh my gosh, Dean Cain! 1.00

00:31:13.000 But you're a dick! 1.00

00:31:14.000 But still, call me! 1.00

00:31:15.000 I don't know if she responds to a lot of stuff.

00:31:17.000 I just see a lot of rhetoric coming out that is right on the party line that's extremely left.

00:31:22.000 Now, I'm socially very liberal.

00:31:23.000 So, in California, if I decided to run for U.S. Senate, if Feinstein does go ahead and retire, if that's the case, you know, being socially liberal but fiscally and foreign policy-wise being very conservative, I think that matches up Countrywide very well and certainly within California.

00:31:39.000 So we'll see.

00:31:40.000 The only thing is, you sure it's a good idea to keep appearing on this program, if that's the case?

00:31:44.000 I am not afraid at all.

00:31:47.000 I'm not a rule.

00:31:48.000 I'm a rule breaker.

00:31:49.000 I just won't.

00:31:50.000 I'm not going to fall in the party line.

00:31:52.000 Well, the only one who has continued to do that is Senator Ted Cruz and Governor Mike Huckabee.

00:31:56.000 Carlos Pereira fell off with some politicians and then afterward, oh my gosh, they probably spot the tranny and they did some jokes. 1.00

00:32:04.000 I think it's changed now.

00:32:05.000 For better or worse, I think Trump has opened that up where people are like, well, okay.

00:32:08.000 So he was on a show where someone said something offensive or one time he tweeted something that someone didn't like.

00:32:12.000 Like, I don't think that's enough of a deal breaker with the voters anymore, aside from the ones who will hate you anyway.

00:32:18.000 Well, I agree with that.

00:32:20.000 I think that's a good thing.

00:32:21.000 It's better that way because at the end of the day, I don't care what image you're going to project out there. 0.59

00:32:25.000 You're still a human being and you still do all the regular things and make silly jokes.

00:32:28.000 Jokes have become this thing that is such a big deal.

00:32:32.000 Jokes have to be made.

00:32:33.000 There must be jokes.

00:32:35.000 If there's not jokes, if you can't joke about something, if it's so serious you can't joke about it, then it's either, you know, horrific, like gassing children in Syria or you have no sense of humor.

00:32:45.000 Not saying that gassing children in Syria is funny. 1.00

00:32:48.000 I'm not saying that.

00:32:49.000 And we will not write jokes about that into tomorrow's show map.

00:32:53.000 Not happened.

00:32:53.000 Just because Dean came with.

00:32:55.000 Yeah, you know, it's one of those things, whenever someone comes out and they say in public, like, can you believe that so-and-so said this?

00:33:00.000 And even if it's a...

00:33:00.000 For example, what was it?

00:33:02.000 That commentator we were talking about, and the Young Turks were talking about it.

00:33:05.000 He said Serena Williams and her boyfriend-husband were having a baby.

00:33:08.000 He said, oh, so that baby, it's going to be like chocolate milk.

00:33:12.000 That was it.

00:33:12.000 And they're like, can you believe he said that?

00:33:15.000 Like the color, like a light brown?

00:33:17.000 Yeah.

00:33:18.000 Chocolate milk.

00:33:19.000 I mean, it was one of those things that couldn't possibly be less controversial.

00:33:22.000 And then it makes you do some research.

00:33:25.000 We were talking about it yesterday because they say this person is actually nicknamed nasty.

00:33:29.000 I'm like, well, hold on a second.

00:33:29.000 You just said that him saying chocolate milk is nasty.

00:33:32.000 So why is he nicknamed nasty?

00:33:34.000 Is it because he says non-nasty things like this?

00:33:37.000 And I think it actually forces more people to look into your history, to look into context, and they realize it's not all that offensive because the left has pushed everything as offensive.

00:33:47.000 I don't think almost anything is offensive.

00:33:50.000 I'm not getting offended by stuff, and I think that's the way it should be.

00:33:54.000 On my Twitter feed, I do have a quote from Martin Luther King talking about his I have a dream speech and talking about how he has a dream that one day his children will be judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of their character.

00:34:07.000 I don't see race.

00:34:09.000 I don't see sex.

00:34:10.000 I don't see sex. 0.93

00:34:11.000 Of course everyone sees sex.

00:34:13.000 We work on the internet, buddy.

00:34:14.000 But I don't see it.

00:34:15.000 I don't care.

00:34:15.000 None of that means anything to me, so there's no special dispensation to anybody.

00:34:19.000 If you don't see sex with Dean Cain, if you don't care, you're dead. 1.00

00:34:23.000 You're dead if you don't see sex with Dean Cain. 1.00

00:34:28.000 Sorry, Dean. 1.00

00:34:29.000 I'm sorry.

00:34:29.000 Thank you.

00:34:31.000 I'm going to make a gif.

00:34:33.000 You know, it doesn't matter how you pronounce it, someone right now on Twitter will say that you're wrong.

00:34:39.000 So I've done both, either way.

00:34:42.000 And you know what I say to that person?

00:34:44.000 They're wrong.

00:34:45.000 Yeah, I know.

00:34:45.000 And now you're going to never-ending tweets.

00:34:48.000 Never-ending tweets.

00:34:48.000 It's like the caliber war, where you're like, hey, 9mm to.45 only, and then someone comes in.

00:34:54.000 It just never, ever goes away.

00:34:56.000 And then your career's over, and then you're...

00:34:57.000 I don't mind the stopping power of.45.

00:34:59.000 I'm just going to throw it out there.

00:35:00.000 Okay.

00:35:02.000 I don't mind it.

00:35:03.000 No, I don't mind any of it.

00:35:04.000 I just think...

00:35:05.000 I'd rather someone carry a.38 or a.380 than nothing.

00:35:10.000 They're like, well, you might as well just carry a pointy stick.

00:35:13.000 I'm not so sure about that.

00:35:14.000 That pointy stick will go through you all the way a few times.

00:35:16.000 Yes, exactly.

00:35:17.000 It'll puncture some holes.

00:35:18.000 So, Dean...

00:35:19.000 So...

00:35:20.000 So it could be a possibility if you maybe think about running for office.

00:35:24.000 I would encourage you to because obviously you remove a lot of the arguments of the left that you're a Nazi, you're hateful because you've got some ethnicity in you.

00:35:33.000 I don't know what it is, but it's enough to check a box.

00:35:35.000 It's Japanese.

00:35:36.000 I don't qualify as white, I guess.

00:35:38.000 Right.

00:35:39.000 Let me put it this way.

00:35:40.000 I have more Japanese in me than Elizabeth Warren has Native American.

00:35:44.000 This is true.

00:35:46.000 Or do I? There's a joke.

00:35:49.000 See, that's a joke.

00:35:49.000 It's a joke.

00:35:50.000 It's a joke about the Land O'Lakes butter lady. 1.00

00:35:53.000 And then let us know if you do.

00:35:55.000 And we will want to talk about it and have you on and discuss this documentary.

00:35:58.000 We have to get going.

00:35:59.000 We have Blair White coming up. 1.00

00:36:00.000 At Real Dean Cain.

00:36:03.000 Man, I'm looking forward to it.

00:36:03.000 We'll see.

00:36:04.000 Maybe he'll be one of our elected representatives.

00:36:06.000 Stay tuned.

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00:37:11.000 Of the millennium?

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00:39:32.000 Glad to have our next guest on.

00:39:35.000 Long time coming.

00:39:37.000 Yeah, at MissMSBlairWhite on Twitter.

00:39:40.000 The channel is BlairWhiteX, I believe, on YouTube.

00:39:44.000 Blair, thank you for being on the program.

00:39:46.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.

00:39:48.000 This is highly requested, I think, on both ends.

00:39:50.000 It is.

00:39:51.000 I know.

00:39:51.000 And you did not like me at one point, and I was saddened because I've actually always liked some of your content, even if we don't always agree.

00:39:59.000 And I'm glad that we're finally able to get you on the show.

00:40:02.000 Yeah, I think that was like a year ago that we had our little Twitter spat.

00:40:06.000 And you could still dislike me.

00:40:08.000 Most people do.

00:40:09.000 I wouldn't blame you at all.

00:40:11.000 No, sometimes you kind of annoy me, but I still like your content overall.

00:40:14.000 I mean, I think we have that in common.

00:40:16.000 I hate myself.

00:40:18.000 Believe me.

00:40:19.000 This is the right place for self-loathing.

00:40:22.000 So Blair, for our audience, people who might not necessarily be familiar with you or people listening sort of terrestrially, explain to them, I mean, you're transgender. 0.95

00:40:32.000 Would you consider yourself, I don't want to mislabel you, conservative, libertarian, alt-right, just sort of a Trump fan.

00:40:37.000 How would you consider yourself?

00:40:39.000 I am a Nazi.

00:40:40.000 No, I'm just kidding.

00:40:41.000 There you go.

00:40:42.000 Oh, and YouTube just demonetized us.

00:40:45.000 Sorry.

00:40:46.000 I have always roughly described my political leanings as center-right.

00:40:49.000 And I actually just took the political compass test and it came out as pretty much exactly center-right.

00:40:54.000 So I guess that's fair to say.

00:40:56.000 Okay.

00:40:58.000 What is that like?

00:40:59.000 I think you're friends with Theron Meyer.

00:41:01.000 We've had Theron Meyer on the show.

00:41:02.000 It must be pretty tough.

00:41:03.000 Because obviously, you know, transgenders get ostracized, and we're no strangers to great tranny jokes in this show, but we're no strangers to any jokes in this show. 0.96

00:41:09.000 We're not going to lie about it.

00:41:11.000 But then, so you get that side of it, but then you get the hate, the spite from the left being an expected sort of contributing member of the far-left LGBTQAI. Actually, IA. I just read this yesterday in Austin.

00:41:25.000 IA is how they're labeling it.

00:41:26.000 They changed it again.

00:41:27.000 They changed it again. 1.00

00:41:28.000 Damn it. 1.00

00:41:29.000 It's QIA and then another A. It's two As. 1.00

00:41:32.000 For Ally?

00:41:32.000 Yeah.

00:41:33.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.91

00:41:35.000 I don't know how much you know about the general reaction to my channel from that side of the political spectrum, but I'm basically seen as the antichrist of the transgender community. 0.99

00:41:45.000 It's really ridiculous.

00:41:48.000 I just go against quite a lot of what, especially transgender activists preach, because I think that a lot of the times the people that they prop up to advocate on their behalf and speak about their issues Okay, I was going to say that. 0.96

00:42:04.000 You really do.

00:42:05.000 It must be tough to get the short end of the stick, because I tell you what, we get, on a personal level, I will say this, behind the scenes, nearly every transgender person outside of Theron Meyer we've had in the program has been a crazy person, and we've either had to block them afterward. 0.99

00:42:20.000 We had people send us books.

00:42:23.000 You know, who we just respectfully disagreed with.

00:42:25.000 I won't name names, but people can go watch them.

00:42:27.000 The longest emails you have ever seen.

00:42:29.000 And we're like, gosh, you know, so when these people go out and they're your ambassadors, you must be sitting there with just, it must be like a permanent bruise in your forehead. 0.98

00:42:37.000 Yes, because I don't like the fact that transgender is politicized at all, because to me, it needs to remain a medical issue, a psychological issue, you know, an issue of neurology and shit. 0.94

00:42:48.000 Like, it shouldn't be... 0.98

00:42:48.000 I don't know if I can curse. 0.98

00:42:49.000 I'm sorry.

00:42:50.000 You can't.

00:42:51.000 Jared's job is just harder.

00:42:53.000 Okay.

00:42:54.000 It shouldn't be politicized at all.

00:42:55.000 So if it is going to be politicized, I at least want, like, smart people advocating for it, and there just isn't.

00:43:01.000 Yeah.

00:43:01.000 Instead, you get, you know, the Stephanie, whatever his name is, the 35-year-old.

00:43:08.000 Oh, Stephanie.

00:43:10.000 Willisakowicz or something.

00:43:11.000 Stephanie.

00:43:12.000 Very clever naming there.

00:43:13.000 Yeah.

00:43:13.000 Yeah, you get, like, Caitlyn Jenner, who every once in a blue moon said something smart, but is overall just a really creepy individual.

00:43:21.000 You get just the worst people.

00:43:23.000 And so I'm sitting here, I mean, I'm not gonna lie, like, in my life, Being trans is not that huge of an issue.

00:43:29.000 I don't walk around and feel the weight of these activists because I have a normal life.

00:43:34.000 But having these conversations online, it is frustrating to get conflated with those people so often.

00:43:40.000 Well, let me ask you this, because I also know conservatives, they'll host you, and then they'll just do an about-face.

00:43:44.000 face.

00:43:44.000 So I try and be transparent about where I line up.

00:43:47.000 Um, who concerns you more?

00:43:49.000 These activists who represent you or maybe people like me who are more conservative going, you know what?

00:43:53.000 I understand the bathroom issue for parents and kids.

00:43:56.000 And, uh, it's a conversation that needs to be had.

00:43:58.000 What is it for you?

00:43:59.000 That's more troubling.

00:44:00.000 Which side?

00:44:00.000 I find that the people on the right, I relate to a lot more because to me, they're just easier to Whereas the people on the left, they tend to just be very religious about the beliefs on this topic.

00:44:19.000 So for me, I definitely do get more shit from the left. 0.92

00:44:24.000 But as far as the bathroom issue, neither side has really done a good job of convincing me that this issue matters as much as people want it to be. 0.99

00:44:35.000 People pretend it is.

00:44:36.000 You have on the right, you have the people who, you know, there's often this talking point of if trans people use the bathrooms they want, there's going to be a surge of rapes and assaults and all the worst things in the world. 0.94

00:44:47.000 And on the left, you have people saying that, you know, If trans people can't use the bathrooms that they want or that they identify with, that they're going to be assaulted and murdered in the bathroom and they're going to kill themselves over the stress of it. 0.81

00:44:57.000 And I'm just like, oh my God, all these histrionics over bathrooms.

00:45:01.000 It's like, I don't like being expected to suspend my knowledge of how the real world works to have these arguments.

00:45:08.000 Because in the real world, none of this is happening in bathrooms.

00:45:12.000 None of it.

00:45:13.000 So not suspending belief in the real world.

00:45:15.000 So not a big Bill Nye fan, I'll take it.

00:45:17.000 He did this whole spectrum.

00:45:19.000 Here's the issue I think a lot of people didn't understand.

00:45:21.000 So you had Charlotte, right, and there was a city ordinance, basically said, you have to let anyone use any bathroom they want.

00:45:26.000 And then the state said, no.

00:45:28.000 You know, that's not what we're going to do.

00:45:29.000 And because businesses are going to be harmed with this, no, we're going to make it.

00:45:32.000 You use your biological gender.

00:45:33.000 And then so I would imagine we'd probably agree that if a private business wants to make a decision, you know, for example, in New York, landlords can be sued for using improper pronouns.

00:45:44.000 I mean, it is a rule book that changes, I would imagine, even for you.

00:45:48.000 It's hard to follow sometimes.

00:45:50.000 We don't know what we're supposed to do or say.

00:45:52.000 And then, of course, people like me don't do it anyway.

00:45:53.000 That's why I have so much sympathy, because.

00:45:57.000 Trans people have been around for a long time, but the issue and the politicization of trans people is, what, three or four years old?

00:46:03.000 I mean, this issue came up in 2013 or something.

00:46:06.000 So, to me, I have no expectation for anyone who, you know, this isn't a part of the world to, like, fully understand it, especially when, like you said, the rulebook does change so often.

00:46:16.000 There are people in the trans community that take issue with the fact that I say the word transsexual because they think that it should be transgender because it should be more all-encompassing.

00:46:26.000 There are people that say that I can't say the word tranny because that's a slur and it's equated with the N-word.

00:46:31.000 It's like, it just changes so much.

00:46:33.000 How can you affect outsiders?

00:46:35.000 I noticed you didn't just say the T-word.

00:46:37.000 You didn't just say the T word.

00:46:37.000 Yes.

00:46:38.000 Exactly.

00:46:39.000 That shows you how different it is.

00:46:41.000 Well, you know what?

00:46:41.000 That's because I got a lot of flack at one point.

00:46:43.000 It's interesting that you bring up transsexual. 0.99

00:46:44.000 And this was because I had a psychiatrist on my show who works with a lot of transsexual people as well as transvestites.

00:46:52.000 And she made the differentiation.

00:46:53.000 And she said transvestites are people who dress up in women's clothing. 0.76

00:46:57.000 Sometimes they put on makeup.

00:46:58.000 But they don't go through the sexual reassignment surgery.

00:47:04.000 Yeah.

00:47:07.000 And I said, okay, do most transgenders go through the sexual reassignment? 0.71

00:47:11.000 She said, no, less than 12%, which is the high figure.

00:47:14.000 She said, no, more of today's transgenders would have much more in common with yesterday's transvestites than actual what was determined transsexuals. 0.56

00:47:22.000 And people got really mad when I tweeted that out.

00:47:25.000 I'm not saying I'm right, but it does seem within the bounds of reason you.

00:47:29.000 You can tell me why I'm wrong.

00:47:31.000 I'm open to it.

00:47:32.000 No, that was actually, I think, the spat that we had a year ago when you said that.

00:47:37.000 And honestly, since then, I've really come to see your point because when I initially got angry at you for saying that, I think I was like a month or two into doing YouTube videos and I had not really dove into the trans community and how they really feel.

00:47:50.000 I always assumed all trans people were just like me.

00:47:52.000 me.

00:47:53.000 And so coming from that assumption, you see someone saying that trans people are never from like cross-dressers and transvestites.

00:47:59.000 And I'm like, well, yes, I am.

00:48:01.000 But then you look at the fact that the definition of trans has been expanded so greatly that Yeah.

00:48:10.000 You're a rarity.

00:48:11.000 I will say this.

00:48:12.000 You're a rarity.

00:48:12.000 Because we had a mayor on here, Jess Herbst, who said, you know, well, the problem is for people like me, barely passables.

00:48:18.000 Well, this mayor tossed on a muumuu and called her... 1.00

00:48:21.000 The muumuu.

00:48:22.000 You know what I mean?

00:48:22.000 That was it.

00:48:23.000 Like, obviously, there's some buy-in here, Blair.

00:48:26.000 I salute that.

00:48:28.000 And that's, I think, what's inflated the number.

00:48:31.000 I'm sure you've seen, like, the number of transgenders in the United States has gone up so rapidly. 1.00

00:48:35.000 Well, most of them are not super committed, and a lot of them just go back.

00:48:38.000 Yeah, and what concerns me even more than that, because listen, people can call themselves whatever they want, you can label yourself as non-binary, transgender, transsexual, trans, aunt eater, I don't care.

00:48:49.000 But the thing is, what concerns me is the amount of new cases of trans children.

00:48:55.000 I think in London, there's like a four times increase in the amount of kids being referred to gender clinics in hopes of, you know, going on puberty blockers and hormones and I don't know if you know my stance on kids transitioning, but I am vehemently against it. 0.99

00:49:11.000 So that concerns me even more.

00:49:15.000 There's a difference, right?

00:49:16.000 But I also think children should not be in charge of making any serious decisions regarding their life's path, certainly not sexuality at that point in their life or gender.

00:49:25.000 Common sense, right?

00:49:26.000 When I was a kid, I said, when I grew up, I want to be a woman so that I can still have sleepovers.

00:49:26.000 Right.

00:49:31.000 My brother and I shared bunk beds.

00:49:33.000 And I was like, oh, that's going to be a bummer.

00:49:34.000 I want to be a woman when I grow up so I can share bunk beds with my brother and be his wife.

00:49:37.000 My parents were like, you don't know how that works.

00:49:39.000 But now, you know, you watch the Jenner special, and this person goes, well, my daughter said I'm a boy.

00:49:45.000 That's it.

00:49:46.000 How much more clear can you get?

00:49:47.000 I'm like, be a parent.

00:49:49.000 She's four.

00:49:50.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:49:51.000 It's ridiculous.

00:49:52.000 And, you know, the idea that, because this is the part that people don't like talking about, and I don't even see enough You know, conservative talking points about this, which should be, I think, the main focus if you're trying to argue against children transitioning. 0.52

00:50:05.000 The fact that transitioning sterilizes you. 1.00

00:50:08.000 Going on peer reblockers makes it so you can never have children.

00:50:10.000 That's a huge deal.

00:50:12.000 To me, the conversation should just end at that.

00:50:14.000 I don't think beyond that there should be any more conversation.

00:50:16.000 But there is.

00:50:17.000 It's very frustrating.

00:50:18.000 So that's why I always bring up first.

00:50:20.000 It's like you really think a 13-year-old She has the capacity to decide that they don't want to ever have kids.

00:50:26.000 I transitioned at 20.

00:50:28.000 And I haven't even been thinking about it because even at 20, most people don't think about having kids.

00:50:32.000 And now I'm sterile and I can never have kids, which is really shitty because, you know, I assume as I get older, I might want some.

00:50:39.000 So it's frustrating.

00:50:41.000 So you have some issues even with the transition because there are ramifications that now might change your outlook, you think?

00:50:48.000 Well, there are ramifications.

00:50:50.000 From the time I was this big, I was struggling with gender dysphoria, and it only got worse as I got closer to adulthood.

00:50:50.000 I will say this.

00:50:56.000 And so I came to a crossroads where I said I can live with this debilitating thing that's affecting my life the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep, or I can transition.

00:51:05.000 And I would never take it back because my quality of life has increased more than I could ever say.

00:51:09.000 But I would never endorse transition per se.

00:51:15.000 And the reason I say that is because I think there's a specific small group of people in which transitioning will actually alleviate your dysphoria.

00:51:26.000 I mean, no offense, Crowder, but if you suddenly picked up and transitioned, I don't think you'd be able to alleviate any dysphoria. 0.99

00:51:33.000 I don't think you'd be able to...

00:51:34.000 No.

00:51:35.000 A full sex change is not going to alleviate this mess here either way.

00:51:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:40.000 So the fact that transition is...

00:51:44.000 Posed as the cure is, I think, troubling because it's just not effective for most people.

00:51:50.000 And you see that with the suicide rates transition, which are very similar.

00:51:56.000 So for me, it's hard to say don't do it because it is kind of your best bet.

00:52:01.000 There is no cure.

00:52:02.000 But part of the problem with accepting transition as the end-all be-all is it becomes politically incorrect to speak against it, and then there's no funding or research into finding an actual cure.

00:52:11.000 So it's interesting.

00:52:13.000 Okay, a couple things.

00:52:14.000 It's interesting that you say cure because people are now going to lump you in with Mike Pence.

00:52:17.000 You know, they're like, oh, you're saying cure transfer.

00:52:19.000 You know, but you're right.

00:52:21.000 I did notice, you know, when I've watched your content and I've read your tweets where you readily admit that the suicide rate actually doesn't get It doesn't get much better.

00:52:29.000 In some studies, it actually gets worse, the more comprehensive studies that come through.

00:52:33.000 And it really is fascinating to see.

00:52:36.000 You're straightforward about that.

00:52:37.000 So you say cure.

00:52:38.000 Well, what do you mean as far as research, like a cure for gender dysphoria?

00:52:42.000 How would you categorize gender dysphoria?

00:52:45.000 And how do you want to see it cured, to use your word?

00:52:49.000 Well, it's not how I would classify it.

00:52:51.000 I mean, gender dysphoria is classified by the DSM as a mental disorder.

00:52:55.000 And so, you know, I'm not...

00:52:58.000 I'm an expert, so I can't sit here and say this will be the cure, we should look into this.

00:53:01.000 But I would like there to be something you can take.

00:53:05.000 I'm not advocating conversion therapy, which is More often than not, throughout history, it's proven to be more barbaric and less helpful than helpful.

00:53:13.000 But the fact that as of now, in 2017, the only answer people have is transitioning when it's so faulty, I just wish there was something else.

00:53:22.000 Because it's very hard to explain to someone who, this is not a part of their world, how debilitating gender dysphoria is. 0.95

00:53:28.000 And I know that on the outside, it just sounds like, oh, someone's unhappy with their gender, get over it.

00:53:32.000 But it is actually very...

00:53:33.000 It'll F you up.

00:53:35.000 So, for me...

00:53:37.000 I would love for an end to people suffering, you know?

00:53:40.000 And people twist that.

00:53:41.000 And I had a debate recently with a non-binary gender queer feminist who said that I was advocating for trans genocide because I wanted there to be a cure.

00:53:57.000 He's like, oh, you want there to be no more trans people?

00:53:58.000 I'm like, how do you twist that?

00:54:00.000 Actually, I don't want anyone else to suffer with this issue because it is an issue.

00:54:04.000 Well, I mentioned that it's interesting that you say that because, first off, depending on the medical governing body, some of them have said, oh, no, it's not a mental disorder now.

00:54:11.000 And we had a psychiatrist who said a lot of this is political.

00:54:15.000 She said that she treats it that way.

00:54:18.000 We've had several who have discussed and have to discuss off air because they're afraid of getting their license revoked if they say this is a psychiatric condition.

00:54:24.000 Listen.

00:54:25.000 I've suffered, I've talked about this, from mental health issues as far as ADHD, which manifests itself as depression.

00:54:32.000 And it's one of those things I try and talk about in the show, so if hopefully anyone else is out there, they can seek help.

00:54:37.000 A lot of the time, that is therapy, sometimes medicinal, sometimes psychiatric is necessary.

00:54:44.000 So I'm not a stranger to that, and I am aware of how that can make people unhappy.

00:54:48.000 My issue is when we say, okay, listen, the suicide rate doesn't get any better.

00:54:51.000 We don't think that putting people in a shallow grave with a 41% suicide rate is helping them.

00:54:59.000 It doesn't mean we hate someone by saying, you know what?

00:55:01.000 It won't.

00:55:12.000 Stephanie is comedic gold, you know?

00:55:16.000 Well, it's comedic, but it's also disturbing.

00:55:19.000 It is disturbing.

00:55:20.000 At first, you're like, oh, haha, then you're like, oh, that's like a thing, okay.

00:55:23.000 Yes, that's pretty rough.

00:55:25.000 So, I mean, do you understand that from that point of view?

00:55:29.000 People who maybe disagree and say, like, listen, I don't know that transgenderism is a thing other than a mental disorder, and we want to help you, and sometimes that's a different route than the transgender community wants. 0.94

00:55:40.000 Yeah, I will say sometimes, you know, the fact that it's a mental disorder can be weaponized, and I think that's shitty. 0.99

00:55:46.000 I think that sometimes the conversation just ends with someone saying, oh, you're sick. 0.70

00:55:50.000 It's like, okay, but would you say that to anyone else with any other kind of disorder?

00:55:53.000 I don't think so.

00:55:54.000 But I completely understand that the left tends to...

00:55:59.000 Make moral arguments rather than logical ones in the sense that someone saying, hey, doesn't look like it's helping that many people by transitioning.

00:56:06.000 Maybe we could seek other options. 0.98

00:56:09.000 Suddenly it becomes, oh, you want them to kill themselves. 0.99

00:56:13.000 They're so histrionic about it. 1.00

00:56:15.000 If you don't support it, then they're going to kill themselves.

00:56:17.000 That's not on me, first of all.

00:56:19.000 Right.

00:56:20.000 Second of all, me advocating for, you know, a cure or people to look into a cure isn't transgenocide.

00:56:26.000 So I relate to that because I get the same thing.

00:56:29.000 Yeah.

00:56:30.000 Well, it's interesting that we're talking about this.

00:56:30.000 Yeah.

00:56:33.000 I'm glad I think we agree on more than we disagree.

00:56:35.000 I think the one issue on which we disagree is, and here's the thing.

00:56:39.000 We disagree, but my point is this.

00:56:41.000 Unlike people like Bill Nye, I'm willing to engage in a conversation.

00:56:45.000 If I cite a study that the changes occur after cross-hormone sexual replacement therapy, I know there are studies that would contradict that, and then I know there are subsequent studies that contradict that.

00:56:55.000 I don't have the time with every single article or video to say, well, in this study, there's this study, and go down the tree branch.

00:57:01.000 But I'm willing to entertain the idea of a conversation, even if we disagree.

00:57:05.000 The issue, and I think what's going to be bad for the trans community, is people like Bill Nye, first off, who No, and you know Some people view me as like an advocate of sorts, just on the other side.

00:57:25.000 It was never really my intention.

00:57:26.000 In fact, when I first started my channel, I spoke mostly about men's rights and I would speak about anti-white sentiments in the media and stuff like that.

00:57:36.000 And I think it's just kind of a byproduct that a lot of people come to my channel and their only perception of trans people before me was the Riley Dennis's and the Milo Stewart's of the world and what Bill Nye says.

00:57:46.000 And so it's like refreshing to them.

00:57:48.000 So I guess it's like byproducts.

00:57:49.000 But I'm by no means an advocate and by no means a spokesperson for the trans community.

00:57:54.000 I just kind of speak from my experience and what I research.

00:57:57.000 Yeah, but that's also very moving, I think, to a lot of people.

00:58:00.000 You know, we have Chad with AIDS in the show who talks about the gay community.

00:58:02.000 He's gay. 0.99

00:58:03.000 He talks about the gay community and he talks about the HIV epidemic.

00:58:06.000 You know, he had someone who was a gift giver and he's talked about this in the community. 0.85

00:58:10.000 Yeah, he was sexually molested and HIV. And so he advocates for disclosure laws.

00:58:15.000 And then we had, what's his name, Zach Ford from ThinkProgress, who advocates against disclosure laws.

00:58:20.000 I feel like when you hear people, or I think, I shouldn't say feel like, I think people like you and myself can find a lot more common ground against someone who's saying, you know what, I think it should be a crime to ask people to disclose their AIDS with sexual partners.

00:58:33.000 I think this is so radical, but they, again, the radical left...

00:58:41.000 Yeah, and I think with most things, the truth is always somewhere in the middle.

00:58:46.000 And especially with this issue, people tend to talk past each other.

00:58:50.000 And it's frustrating because, like I said, I don't like the politicization of it.

00:58:53.000 I would prefer if this stayed in the medical field entirely because, in my opinion, that's the only place that it can be discussed properly.

00:58:59.000 And there are even issues over there when they discuss it because there's conflicting studies, like you said.

00:59:03.000 Sure.

00:59:06.000 I mean, we talked about the suicide rates of trans people.

00:59:10.000 There are also a lot of studies that show that the suicide rate becomes less common with familial acceptance and having a supportive family, which I think is great.

00:59:18.000 And so I think that's an important message to put out there.

00:59:21.000 But what I think is also important to say is that...

00:59:24.000 There should be no authoritarianism surrounding this topic.

00:59:27.000 There shouldn't be laws that dictate how you should interact with people.

00:59:31.000 I think that's crazy, and I think it's a bad look.

00:59:34.000 Why would someone ever want to hire a trans person who instantly becomes a liability to their business if they slip up on a pronoun? 0.99

00:59:42.000 That's why I say, even though on the surface it may seem like I would have more of an issue with you, It actually is them, because they're the ones that put me in this position in the first place.

00:59:51.000 Right.

00:59:52.000 And a lot of them aren't willing to entertain a discussion.

00:59:55.000 Even if you said, you know what, I'm going to come double barrels blazing, I have a problem with what you said, we'd still welcome you on the show.

01:00:01.000 I mean, I'd like to think we have a pretty decent track record of doing that.

01:00:04.000 It's just pretty hard to get people who disagree with us on the program.

01:00:08.000 So it's rare that we get productive discussions.

01:00:10.000 But, hey, let me ask you this.

01:00:11.000 Maybe you can be a tiebreaker here.

01:00:13.000 Did you see the Berkeley...

01:00:15.000 Well, I don't know.

01:00:15.000 It was reported as a transgender.

01:00:17.000 Did you see the Berkeley transgender who ripping up the Trump thing and threatening to beat the crap out of the guys? 1.00

01:00:21.000 The big redhead. 1.00

01:00:23.000 Is that a male-to-female transgender?

01:00:23.000 Okay.

01:00:26.000 Is that a female-to-male?

01:00:27.000 Is it just a genderqueer person?

01:00:29.000 Because we couldn't figure it out.

01:00:30.000 And the article just said transgender.

01:00:33.000 I probably have about as good of an idea as you do.

01:00:36.000 Okay, okay.

01:00:37.000 But from what I read, I think it was a male to female transsexual because they got, well, transsexual, trans person, because they got upset over being called male.

01:00:46.000 So you think it's male to female?

01:00:47.000 Again, we're talking about the representation thing.

01:00:49.000 There was Zoe Tur, I think was their name.

01:00:52.000 Yeah, almost strangled Ben Shapiro.

01:00:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:00:54.000 Yeah, like, what better argument for the fact that, like, trans women are, like, inherently feminine and, like, female-brained to have these burly, like, dudes walking around threatening to kick people's ass. 1.00

01:01:04.000 Like, stop. 1.00

01:01:05.000 Just stop.

01:01:06.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:01:08.000 I don't know, because if it is a male-to-female, we actually were doing a whole analysis earlier.

01:01:14.000 If it is a male-to-female transgender, it's a male-to-female transgender who then dresses and cuts women. 1.00

01:01:23.000 I don't know the rule book at this point.

01:01:25.000 And what's funny is I saw the leftist kind of reporting on it.

01:01:29.000 You know, this guy committed hate speech.

01:01:31.000 I don't think the guy knew that was a transgender when he said, oh, big man, you know, like crumpling up the flag. 0.77

01:01:36.000 And then he goes, I'm a woman.

01:01:37.000 And the guy doesn't say anything.

01:01:39.000 He's like, that's it.

01:01:44.000 This is what I said before.

01:01:45.000 It's about suspending...

01:01:47.000 Being forced to suspend your knowledge of how the real world actually works.

01:01:50.000 When it comes to pronouns, people act like it's a thought process.

01:01:53.000 It's not.

01:01:54.000 Using someone's pronouns is a subconscious judgment based on secondary sex characteristics.

01:02:00.000 In other words, what you view someone as.

01:02:02.000 Someone walks into a store, they look like a woman, you're going to say, ma'am, it's not a thought. 0.97

01:02:06.000 And so this idea that you should walk around and like...

01:02:10.000 Ask people their pronouns before you talk.

01:02:11.000 It's just not real.

01:02:13.000 Right.

01:02:13.000 It doesn't work like that, you know?

01:02:15.000 Well, and that's why I didn't use pronouns when I brought you on the show because I'm liable to slip up.

01:02:15.000 Yeah.

01:02:18.000 With you, I would probably very likely just instinctively say she.

01:02:22.000 With Mayor Jess Herbst, it would be a struggle for me to not say he because I'm looking at a man, you know?

01:02:28.000 Yeah.

01:02:29.000 It's just instinctive.

01:02:30.000 So I just try and avoid it because I know I'll make the mistake and step on that landmine at some point.

01:02:37.000 Yeah, it's...

01:02:39.000 But then there's also the people on the other side who act as if they will only ever use the pronouns that are congruent with someone's biological sex.

01:02:47.000 And that's not real either.

01:02:48.000 Because if you and I were to go to dinner just to hang out and you got there after me and I was already there and you told the person at the front of the restaurant, I'm here to see my friend and you said, the guy in the red shirt and I'm wearing the red shirt.

01:03:00.000 Right, yeah.

01:03:18.000 He didn't know.

01:03:19.000 Again, he's not hateful.

01:03:21.000 And even if we disagree with the sort of modern transgender movement, it doesn't mean that the pronouns are a manifestation of hate.

01:03:28.000 It is bizarre, and I think Bill Nye is the worst.

01:03:31.000 But I'm glad to have a tiebreaker.

01:03:33.000 So there you go.

01:03:34.000 There you go.

01:03:34.000 Male to female, transgender.

01:03:36.000 Naki Jared thought it was just a lesbian. 1.00

01:03:38.000 I thought it was a lesbian. 1.00

01:03:39.000 I mean, it looked like a big dyke, so... 1.00

01:03:43.000 It did.

01:03:44.000 It's really, really difficult.

01:03:47.000 At that point, we're not even making jokes about it.

01:03:50.000 We were sitting there looking at the story in the pitch meeting going, I am confused.

01:03:55.000 And we had about four or five people come in.

01:03:57.000 My wife couldn't determine. 0.91

01:03:58.000 She was like, that's a man.

01:03:59.000 No way.

01:04:00.000 That's, I don't know.

01:04:02.000 And that's different because it's very clear, obviously, if you say you're transgender, like you said, someone would just say, didn't know, would say that woman in the black dress.

01:04:10.000 Someone like this, it would be that, your guess, is as good as mine in the Nazi tank top. 0.59

01:04:16.000 Yeah.

01:04:17.000 Yeah, which is why the authoritarianism doesn't work, because you can't expect people to know what you're still confused about.

01:04:23.000 That person looked confused.

01:04:25.000 You can't expect other people to know.

01:04:27.000 Yeah, and the person looked very upset.

01:04:29.000 Okay, Blair White, we have to get going.

01:04:31.000 Great conversation.

01:04:31.000 Where's the best place for people to find you and support you?

01:04:34.000 YouTube.com slash BlairWhiteX.

01:04:36.000 There's an E at the end of Blair.

01:04:38.000 Everyone forgets that.

01:04:39.000 And Twitter.com is Ms. 0.99

01:04:41.000 Blair White.

01:04:41.000 Blair White, Ms.

01:04:42.000 Okay, do you have a Patreon going on or anything like that?

01:04:44.000 Yeah, I do.

01:04:45.000 It's patreon.com slash Blair White.

01:04:47.000 Okay, I figured because right now with YouTube, everyone's being squeezed, so it's tough.

01:04:51.000 Yeah, get the coin.

01:04:52.000 Yeah, you gotta get the coin.

01:04:52.000 You gotta get the coin.

01:04:54.000 Bitcoins for all the libertarians out there.

01:04:55.000 Also, she'll send you a free joint.

01:04:57.000 There we go.

01:04:57.000 We just got you the libertarian vote.

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01:07:00.000 We return to the drowning dance.

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01:07:05.000 Thanks so much, Dean Cain and Blair White.

01:07:07.000 I really enjoyed the conversations.

01:07:09.000 Nice folks.

01:07:09.000 Hope we have them back.

01:07:11.000 Huge week next week, too.

01:07:12.000 We have a lot of great guests.

01:07:14.000 We have Patrick Moore, who is one of the founders of Greenpeace.

01:07:17.000 PhD in ecology. 0.88

01:07:19.000 And he says the entire modern climate change movement is bullcrap.

01:07:25.000 That is interesting. 0.52

01:07:26.000 But...

01:07:27.000 He only has a PhD in ecology, so he's a denier.

01:07:30.000 Let's be clear on that.

01:07:31.000 He does not have a bachelor's in mechanical engineering.

01:07:33.000 Those Koch brother checks are clearing.

01:07:35.000 Yes, those Koch brother checks are clearing.

01:07:37.000 And we have a few other people.

01:07:38.000 Oh, we have Diamond and Silk.

01:07:39.000 We have Diamond and Silk will be on the show.

01:07:40.000 Diamond and Silk on Monday, actually.

01:07:42.000 I remember when that just became huge.

01:07:43.000 I'm like, we have to have these ladies on. 1.00

01:07:45.000 Well, they have a publicist who's very much...

01:07:48.000 Like, what do you want to have them on for?

01:07:50.000 Diamond and Silk are very busy.

01:07:51.000 And they're like, of course they are.

01:07:53.000 Of course they are.

01:07:53.000 That's perfect.

01:07:54.000 If I were Diamond and Silk, I would be the biggest princess in the world.

01:07:59.000 So exclusive.

01:07:59.000 I would be so exclusive.

01:08:01.000 There's no way I would do this show.

01:08:02.000 No.

01:08:03.000 So, you know, we were talking about this earlier.

01:08:05.000 You know, you made the point about Vox.

01:08:08.000 Yeah.

01:08:08.000 My point is, you look at Vox, and I think Vox, to their credit, more than most, they do a very good job of presenting their videos as being straight down the middle, unbiased, just effects.

01:08:21.000 I don't know if it's their editing, I don't know if it's their voiceovers, or their little cartoon graphics that just pull on my heartstrings, but they do a good job.

01:08:27.000 And then you start looking around, and you're like, I know...

01:08:31.000 You smell that?

01:08:32.000 I step in something?

01:08:34.000 Yeah.

01:08:35.000 And then you start looking through and cross-referencing things.

01:08:36.000 You're like, oh, there's all the sleight of hand. 0.97

01:08:39.000 There's all the bullcrap. 0.98

01:08:40.000 It's everywhere. 0.98

01:08:41.000 Yeah.

01:08:41.000 No, it's true.

01:08:42.000 And by the way, anyone on Vox who thinks that we've misrepresented them, you're welcome to come on the show.

01:08:46.000 Just like anyone at Young Turks, we don't call anyone out and not offer them recourse.

01:08:51.000 That's our rule here.

01:08:51.000 Yes.

01:08:52.000 So anyone, anyone who we've called out or, I mean, not everyone we've ever made a joke about, like in the opening monologue, and we're like, I don't I don't like it.

01:08:59.000 Like if Rob Schneider says, there is no fascist gigolo.

01:09:02.000 Rob, come on, you're a comedian.

01:09:04.000 But still, we don't call people out without giving them recourse.

01:09:06.000 And here's why.

01:09:06.000 There are a couple of things here.

01:09:08.000 The best way to shine a light on bullcrap like that is live debate, live conversation in real time.

01:09:16.000 Anyone, including us, anyone can misrepresent what someone else is saying in a video or in an article.

01:09:22.000 So, for example, we could have just said, hey, Vox makes an emotional argument and only shown that portion, when instead they could have made a really valid constitutional plea as to why there need to be sanctuary cities.

01:09:32.000 They didn't really do that.

01:09:33.000 I encourage you to go watch the videos.

01:09:35.000 However, I could easily lie to you that way, okay?

01:09:39.000 We've had people do that all the time.

01:09:41.000 We've had people do that with what we say.

01:09:43.000 We've seen people on the right do it with people on the left, and we've seen it going both ways.

01:09:47.000 We've seen people do it with Dave Rubin.

01:09:49.000 I think we've seen people do it with Dave Rubin having me on the show.

01:09:52.000 He's a guy you think everyone would just love, but it turns out it's just kind of the opposite reaction.

01:09:56.000 No, most people like him.

01:09:58.000 Most people like him, but people down the middle think they're going to make a lot of friends often find themselves making enemies on both sides as well.

01:10:04.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:10:05.000 That's true.

01:10:05.000 Well, someone like Blair White probably has a lot of enemies, and that's why I wanted to be friendly, even though we disagree.

01:10:11.000 And you can tweet me at S. Crowder, maybe tweet at NokiaJarred.

01:10:13.000 I do try to do a job here of not changing my positions or values in the face of someone who might make it uncomfortable to express so.

01:10:21.000 So it would be inconsistent to me to say, like, yeah, Blair, I'm totally on board and transgender.

01:10:25.000 No, I still need to be clear, like, listen, I think you're a good person, but I also think that maybe a way to assist people who suffer from gender dysphoria is not the sex change.

01:10:34.000 But you know what?

01:10:34.000 That's what Blair advocated.

01:10:35.000 Sure.

01:10:36.000 So we found common ground where we didn't even expect to.

01:10:38.000 I thought that might have been a pushback point.

01:10:40.000 Again, that's why the live conversation is so important.

01:10:43.000 The internet can allow anybody to be an expert. 1.00

01:10:45.000 You can take your eight-year-old son, give him a week, and say, dissect this monologue from Noam Chomsky, and they could make him look like an idiot. 0.99

01:10:55.000 So please go watch the original Vox video. 0.99

01:10:57.000 Please go watch the original Young Turks video that we talked about yesterday.

01:11:01.000 Go watch their original video.

01:11:02.000 Go to their original source and see if it's an accurate representation.

01:11:06.000 Okay, go watch the Bill Nye show.

01:11:08.000 We often believe in more context, not less.

01:11:11.000 Bring back up.

01:11:13.000 Bring drinks.

01:11:14.000 What?

01:11:15.000 For the Bill Nye show.

01:11:16.000 What do you mean bring back?

01:11:17.000 Oh, bring back up. 0.98

01:11:19.000 You said bring back up.

01:11:20.000 No.

01:11:21.000 Like bring something back up.

01:11:22.000 No, just don't do that.

01:11:23.000 We shouldn't advocate that.

01:11:24.000 No, you shouldn't advocate that because people will drink themselves to death.

01:11:26.000 It's true. 0.98

01:11:27.000 Probably already happening if they're transgender. 1.00

01:11:29.000 There's a 41% chance.

01:11:32.000 Statistically accurate.

01:11:33.000 Oh, this segment got dark.

01:11:37.000 So that's a big way to shine a light on it.

01:11:39.000 But I encourage other people out there to.

01:11:41.000 It's not about the ones that you see.

01:11:43.000 It's not about the MSNBC.

01:11:44.000 It's not about the Young Turks.

01:11:46.000 It's not just about the Slate.

01:11:47.000 It's about the HuffPo.

01:11:48.000 It's about the Vox.

01:11:49.000 It's about the Brian Williams.

01:11:50.000 It's about CNN.

01:11:51.000 If you watch this show...

01:11:54.000 Particularly if you're a Mug Club member and you support the show daily, you'll see that usually we're dissecting issues from CNN. Usually we're dissecting issues from sources that people see as unbiased.

01:12:04.000 Vox does a good job with that, as Not Gay Jared said.

01:12:07.000 Those are the ones you have to look out for.

01:12:09.000 And it's really easy to be fooled.

01:12:11.000 So Google right now is changing their algorithms to, for example, no longer allow or to throttle any kind of fake news websites.

01:12:20.000 So, under that category, it seems like opinion sites will be included, but under legitimate news will be university newspapers.

01:12:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:29.000 So, the Trigglypuffs, who are editor-in-chiefs of newspapers, the I'm a woman and you better respect it, who, by the way, doesn't even attend that campus. 1.00

01:12:37.000 Really?

01:12:38.000 Yeah, that's what she said?

01:12:41.000 What do we decide on?

01:12:42.000 I don't know.

01:12:43.000 I still don't know.

01:12:44.000 I just know I'm still going to have nightmares.

01:12:45.000 Edward Soundguy says he.

01:12:47.000 So, um...

01:12:49.000 This is what's going to happen with Google.

01:12:50.000 So you don't need to worry about what you're finding that's blatant.

01:12:53.000 You're going, oh, that's coming from Mother Jones.

01:12:55.000 But when you're searching, hold on a second.

01:12:57.000 Google's not really necessarily showing you that deportations actually lead to less illegal immigration.

01:13:04.000 Google may not be showing you that illegal immigration comes with higher crime.

01:13:08.000 Google may not be showing you that ICE just needs a 48-hour retainer period to be able to come in and pick up illegal immigrants.

01:13:14.000 Google may not be showing you that illegal immigrants are not likely to alert the local authorities regarding domestic disturbances as it is.

01:13:22.000 Google may not show it to you.

01:13:23.000 Vox may not show it to you.

01:13:25.000 CNN certainly is not going to show it to you.

01:13:27.000 They'll show you Russians peeing on, apparently, plaster in front of Donald Trump, something along those lines.

01:13:32.000 And they're still seen as legitimate news sources.

01:13:34.000 PolitiFact is a great example.

01:13:36.000 PolitiFact said mostly true that illegal immigration is down.

01:13:40.000 No, we know it's absolutely true.

01:13:42.000 Snopes fact-checked us.

01:13:43.000 Here's a good example one time.

01:13:45.000 And I'm going to get to the conclusion here.

01:13:49.000 Snopes one time fact-checked us about Cologne.

01:13:53.000 We were talking about after Cologne, there were leaflets being passed out teaching migrants how not to rape.

01:13:59.000 We took actual pictures of the leaflets.

01:14:01.000 Now, if you read the original article, we said that after Cologne, these leaflets were being passed out.

01:14:06.000 They were being circulated in significant numbers, voluminous numbers.

01:14:12.000 That was the original article.

01:14:14.000 Now, some people tried to say, hey, they didn't just print.

01:14:18.000 Those pamphlets were printed long before Cologne, Germany.

01:14:22.000 Yes.

01:14:23.000 Exactly.

01:14:24.000 We never said they were printed right now.

01:14:25.000 We talked about the circulation of those pamphlets.

01:14:27.000 And Snopes tried to say, well, if you look at this, no, this is inaccurate because these pamphlets were printed a long time ago.

01:14:35.000 But if you read the original article, that's what we said.

01:14:39.000 But we said because now they're raping a lot, so they're making a comeback.

01:14:44.000 The don't rape pamphlets.

01:14:45.000 Just because your church evangelism tracks were printed up in 1979, so using them doesn't make you less...

01:14:53.000 Especially if we haven't been passing them out in numbers and we pass them out tenfold starting tomorrow.

01:14:57.000 That would be newsworthy.

01:14:58.000 So Snopes says, well, actually, were printed a while ago.

01:15:01.000 Well, yes.

01:15:02.000 But Snopes doesn't say, and by the way, they were being recirculated in mammoth numbers and passed out on the street after the Cologne attacks.

01:15:08.000 Why?

01:15:08.000 Because Snopes, I don't even think, addressed the Cologne attacks.

01:15:11.000 Maybe they printed too many.

01:15:12.000 Maybe they printed too many.

01:15:13.000 It's just a surplus here.

01:15:15.000 Snopes.

01:15:16.000 On the back of it, it's telling you the wonders of Jehovah.

01:15:18.000 You don't know, but the point is...

01:15:20.000 Snopes.

01:15:21.000 PolitiFact.

01:15:22.000 People can do that easily.

01:15:23.000 People can take anything out of context and craft an argument against an argument that you were never making.

01:15:29.000 And Vox does that a lot. 1.00

01:15:31.000 And they're really good at it.

01:15:32.000 And so I want you this week to, we've always said this, right?

01:15:35.000 Set HuffPosts, all of the sites that you hate, all of the people who you don't like, watch them, listen to them, read them on a regular basis.

01:15:43.000 Also, try to learn not to hate them.

01:15:45.000 Don't be angry about it, but educate yourself and be in the know.

01:15:49.000 Even more than that is I want you to have your antenna up whenever you read something that you think is not biased.

01:15:56.000 Whenever you see something where you're going, gosh, what is a sanctuary city?

01:16:00.000 You type it into YouTube, guess what's going to be the first thing that shows up?

01:16:03.000 It's not going to be this podcast.

01:16:04.000 This thing's been demonetized by segment one, okay?

01:16:07.000 By the time Jihadi Bond theme song...

01:16:09.000 It's on page 12.

01:16:10.000 It's on page 12.

01:16:11.000 Vox is going to be right up there. 0.53

01:16:13.000 And again, it starts with, this is a sanctuary city.

01:16:15.000 We can agree, okay, that's accurate.

01:16:16.000 We're not beyond agreeing on facts.

01:16:18.000 And it uses that as a springboard.

01:16:22.000 Now, there's also nothing wrong with that if you're straightforward that you're giving an opinion or that it's speculation.

01:16:29.000 Vox doesn't do that. 1.00

01:16:30.000 CNN doesn't do that.

01:16:31.000 Chris Cuomo doesn't do that.

01:16:33.000 A lot of people on the left don't do that.

01:16:35.000 Something else that's important.

01:16:37.000 I won't say that Vox is lying.

01:16:39.000 I won't say that someone else is lying.

01:16:41.000 Lying means that you can prove a motive. 0.76

01:16:43.000 I just think they're wrong.

01:16:44.000 Now, there are some people who, I will argue, very rarely, it really seems like this person is proactively lying because you can go back and check an inconsistency where they knew information that they withheld.

01:16:53.000 So that's something important, too.

01:16:54.000 It doesn't necessarily mean that these people are lying.

01:16:56.000 It means that they are wrong.

01:16:58.000 And again, there's always confirmation bias.

01:17:00.000 You are choosing to go along with the narrative.

01:17:02.000 We do it, too.

01:17:03.000 We try to be straightforward about that.

01:17:05.000 But for every biased piece of reporting, every biased piece of journalism, this is a comedy show, but out there, biased pieces of journalism that you see, for every one that you do see, there's 10, 15, 20 that you don't see.

01:17:18.000 The New York Times up until recently did not think that they were biased.

01:17:22.000 They genuinely didn't think that they were biased.

01:17:24.000 Only 7% of reporters identify as Republican.

01:17:27.000 I'm sure Walter Cronkite thought he actually was the gold standard of journalism, but he said he couldn't be a journalist and be a liberal.

01:17:33.000 I'm sure Dan Rather maybe didn't even know that people were forging documents to try and indict Bush.

01:17:39.000 Maybe he didn't even know.

01:17:40.000 I'm sure a lot of these people aren't aware that they're super biased.

01:17:44.000 I know because I've been in the halls at Fox News, at CNN, at all of these places.

01:17:48.000 I've been on these programs.

01:17:49.000 And a lot of the time, many of these people think, well, I'm doing my job as a journalist.

01:17:55.000 And they either make a judgment call to omit something, which is pivotal, or they don't even know that it's relevant to be included.

01:18:01.000 So don't attribute the motive, but be aware that for everyone you spot, For every bottle cap you spot, get the metal detector.

01:18:10.000 Be the creep with the zinc oxide on your nose and scan across that seashore because there are 20 more lurking beneath the surface.

01:18:17.000 And one of the most valuable tools that you can have in your toolbox, particularly as you go into university right now, or if you're just someone who surfs the internet, is being able to decipher.

01:18:26.000 The left is trying to teach classes to decipher fake news, and what do they try and teach you right now in school?

01:18:30.000 They say, well, anything that's opinion is fake news.

01:18:32.000 No, no.

01:18:33.000 I don't know.

01:18:33.000 Opinion can be real news tainted with opinion.

01:18:35.000 Opinion can be real news and offering an opinion.

01:18:38.000 Fake news can be inaccurate news.

01:18:41.000 And you see that a lot and you often don't know that you're seeing it.

01:18:45.000 And that's what really gets my goat.

01:18:47.000 And I just bought one, a newbie in one, because they make great buttermilk.

01:18:49.000 I love you guys.

01:18:51.000 See you next week, Monday with Diamond and Silk.

01:18:52.000 That'll be fun.

Louder with Crowder - April 28, 2017

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