Louder with Crowder - #172 TRUMP IN ISRAEL! Mark Duplass | Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 What would you do if I sang out of tune?

00:00:05.000 Would you stand up and walk out on me?

00:00:10.000 Let me over your ears and I'll sing you a song I will try not to sing out of key You're 0.99

00:00:55.000 a strange animal. 0.81

00:00:56.000 That's what I know.

00:00:58.000 You're doing strange anymore.

00:01:03.000 I got to follow.

00:01:05.000 I'm the speediest.

00:01:09.000 This is known as the get over here dance, commonly referred to as the scorpion.

00:01:24.000 And for those of you who don't remember that, that's probably because you picked the female fighter in Mortal Kombat.

00:01:29.000 One of the female fighters. 1.00

00:01:30.000 And you lost.

00:01:31.000 I hope that your reverse sexism served you well. 0.98

00:01:34.000 Oh, Katana was awful. 0.95

00:01:36.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.98

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00:01:41.000 Me, at Escrider, with your comments, questions, conclusions, photoshops.

00:01:44.000 I fulfill my legal obligations, draw your own conclusions.

00:01:46.000 We good.

00:01:46.000 We good?

00:01:47.000 At G Morgan Jr.

00:01:48.000 Doing well?

00:01:49.000 I'm doing well.

00:01:50.000 She's kind of cute for a cartoon character. 1.00

00:01:51.000 Katana?

00:01:52.000 Yeah, I know.

00:01:52.000 Yeah.

00:01:52.000 I would take the instruction manual to my bedroom when my parents weren't looking.

00:01:57.000 Stop, stop, stop.

00:01:58.000 And I'd get very comfortable.

00:01:58.000 No, no, no.

00:01:59.000 This got awkward.

00:02:00.000 Hey, we have Mark Duplass coming up.

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00:02:35.000 Mark Duplass, that'll be a great conversation.

00:02:38.000 Back on the show.

00:02:38.000 He's been on our show, then he went on Ruben, and did work with Glenn Beck.

00:02:43.000 Interesting to see.

00:02:44.000 Good stuff, yeah.

00:02:45.000 Big names!

00:02:45.000 We'll be talking about Donald Trump.

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00:02:53.000 There's no segue into it.

00:02:54.000 Right now, okay, over the weekend, obviously, the big story, Donald Trump visited Saudi Arabia and Israel.

00:02:58.000 Of course, he was praised, he was criticized, both for kind of the pre-snippets of the speech.

00:03:03.000 I think we can see him here at the Whalen Wall.

00:03:06.000 He went to the Whalen Wall and obviously was very moved.

00:03:09.000 He said, it's a great wall, a fantastic wall, but if it were his, Hamas would have paid for it. 0.98

00:03:13.000 LAUGHTER There was a lot of criticism.

00:03:16.000 We'll talk about that, but he did.

00:03:17.000 He talked about being really moved by the Wailing Wall.

00:03:20.000 As a matter of fact, he said that we should incorporate it into the United States at our border, A, to honor those Americans with Jewish heritage, and B, it would confuse the hell out of the Mexicans.

00:03:31.000 Adama!

00:03:38.000 Adama!

00:03:44.000 Bulls. Bulls. Bulls. Bulls. Bulls. Bulls.

00:03:44.000 Up.

00:03:54.000 Amitse.

00:03:58.000 What is this?

00:04:00.000 He's America.

00:04:01.000 Check them out.

00:04:02.000 I am checking them out.

00:04:04.000 They are all yours.

00:04:05.000 Yours?

00:04:06.000 Si.

00:04:07.000 Si.

00:04:08.000 He's still there in Mexico.

00:04:11.000 I am.

00:04:12.000 That ascetic Jew got the short end of the stick. 1.00

00:04:24.000 Poor guy. 0.92

00:04:25.000 You didn't even see it coming over that wall.

00:04:28.000 Okay, so Donald Trump in Saudi Arabia.

00:04:32.000 We actually posted a snippet of the speech beforehand at lottowithcudder.com, and it seemed really harsh, a real turn from Obama's rhetoric on terrorism.

00:04:40.000 A lot of people thought that he softened it when he was there because he said Islam was one of the world's greatest religions.

00:04:47.000 First off, what were your takes on this?

00:04:50.000 I was happy to see the U.S. kind of take a lead.

00:04:52.000 He did call them out while he was there.

00:04:54.000 I watched the speech when it was given.

00:04:55.000 And he said that.

00:04:56.000 He said it was among the great faiths of the world.

00:04:58.000 So he didn't call it the greatest.

00:04:59.000 Which it's not.

00:05:01.000 Of the bottom of the barrel.

00:05:03.000 You can't go there and just poke the barrel too much.

00:05:05.000 Go beneath the barrel a hole in the ground.

00:05:07.000 Well, you and I both know that to be true.

00:05:07.000 There's his one.

00:05:09.000 But you have to be somewhat diplomatic.

00:05:10.000 Well, I mean, somewhat diplomatic, but he was obviously talking before the election, saying if you want to look into 9-11, obviously criticizing Barack Obama and Iraq, he said it was the Saudis, you know, who carried out 9-11.

00:05:20.000 Now, the Saudis did not carry out 9-11.

00:05:22.000 Many of the terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, and the problem is that, you know, Saudi Arabia kind of turned a blind eye, and Saudi Arabia has shielded organizations who sponsor terror, but that's not all that different from...

00:05:33.000 From us and care.

00:05:35.000 It's true.

00:05:35.000 Though they have done more than some countries have in that region to weed out and actually have arrested and killed Al-Qaeda.

00:05:43.000 And they're moving in the right direction, too.

00:05:43.000 That is true.

00:05:45.000 They are moving in the right direction.

00:05:46.000 They do a lot of crappy stuff, but they're moving in the right direction, and we want to keep that going.

00:05:49.000 And I was excited to see him call and say, hey, look, just out of your temples, out of your places to worship, out of everywhere, just drive the extremists out of here.

00:05:57.000 And you need...

00:05:59.000 From me, that region.

00:06:00.000 Palaces that we're in.

00:06:01.000 Look at this place!

00:06:02.000 Also, by the way, do not give your limit the right to drive.

00:06:06.000 It's bad.

00:06:08.000 I'm going to put a Mar-a-Lago.

00:06:10.000 This guy knows.

00:06:11.000 He thinks it's a cabbie.

00:06:12.000 So, this is something else.

00:06:14.000 Yeah, I think it was overall pretty good.

00:06:16.000 I really do.

00:06:17.000 I think overall it was better than, of course, the media would make it out to be.

00:06:20.000 Maybe not as successful as some of his supporters who said, he's going to He's going to just take it to Saudi Arabia and Islam.

00:06:26.000 The guy we're seeing in a more diplomatic, Trump there.

00:06:28.000 So I think in the wake of last week, that's a good thing.

00:06:31.000 Cultural appropriation this week in outrage.

00:06:33.000 There was an adult homosexual film called Didgeridoo Me, seen by US publisher Men.com.

00:06:41.000 It featured two actors effectively using the aboriginal instrument As an enormous sexual apparatus. 0.99

00:06:48.000 And critics online, they lashed out at the scene saying that it's disrespectful mostly to the didgeridoo, which plays a part in the aboriginal spiritual life.

00:06:58.000 It's a vision quest, third eye.

00:06:59.000 I just don't understand, what kind of a human being watching this has the nerve to suddenly claim the moral high ground over cultural appropriation?

00:07:08.000 And not only that, has no shame in doing it publicly.

00:07:11.000 No, I wasn't searching for this, but I'll watch.

00:07:13.000 I'm outraged.

00:07:14.000 Someone's there like, oh! 1.00

00:07:15.000 They're watching gay pornography. 1.00

00:07:17.000 How dare they? 1.00

00:07:18.000 They were fine with the upside-down wine bottles.

00:07:20.000 Can you believe that they did with the didgeridoo? 1.00

00:07:24.000 Hey, it looks like you're watching gay porn over there. 1.00

00:07:26.000 But that's beside the point. 1.00

00:07:30.000 That's exactly right.

00:07:31.000 And then, of course, listen, they were not respecting Aboriginal culture, you know, native Australian culture.

00:07:36.000 We've talked about the outrage with this, and further complaints arose when they ran a blacklight over the smallpox blankets, so it doesn't end well.

00:07:44.000 And they wanted, you know, we always talk about Native Americans, Aboriginal culture in Australia.

00:07:48.000 There are a lot of similarities.

00:07:50.000 So they wanted, but unavailable for comment, was the Indian from the village people because he's dead from AIDS. Yeah.

00:07:58.000 Always too soon.

00:07:59.000 Tying it back.

00:08:00.000 I don't think it's ever too soon.

00:08:01.000 All right.

00:08:01.000 Listen, in other news, I just keep a cultural appropriation.

00:08:04.000 People are outraged.

00:08:05.000 Hold on a second.

00:08:06.000 I get that you want to virtue signal and be outraged, but Just be more careful.

00:08:13.000 Do you think people who are on Twitter, do you think they realize that their parents can read their Twitter?

00:08:17.000 For the rest of their life, their parents are like, which son of yours are you talking about?

00:08:20.000 Are you talking about the one who went to Harvard?

00:08:21.000 No, the one who tweets about didgeridoo me.

00:08:24.000 That one.

00:08:25.000 We need a new character.

00:08:26.000 Zero self-awareness man.

00:08:28.000 Zero self-awareness.

00:08:30.000 Good luck getting a job at a bank.

00:08:32.000 They're going to Google you and just, what does this didgerid do?

00:08:34.000 Oh my god, he's fired.

00:08:36.000 So, this is something I've talked about.

00:08:38.000 It's making the rounds everywhere.

00:08:39.000 Everyone has seen this video.

00:08:40.000 If you haven't, we're going to show it to you.

00:08:42.000 I've had a bit in stand-up for a long time about why sea lions, sea otters, PETA, they're just wrong.

00:08:48.000 Animals are the worst things on the planet.

00:08:50.000 People like to act as though they're somehow nicer to each other in the animal kingdom, that humans are the most cruel beasts. 0.85

00:08:55.000 No, it's not even close.

00:08:57.000 As seen here with this video of a sea lion and what he does to a girl near the water in Vancouver, British Columbia.

00:09:04.000 Let's bring this up, not K. Jared.

00:09:05.000 So here, look.

00:09:06.000 That's adorable.

00:09:07.000 Aww, so cute.

00:09:09.000 It looks a little bit like Hopper, actually, with the whiskers.

00:09:11.000 Look at him.

00:09:12.000 That's a Disney film.

00:09:13.000 Oh, he went in for a kiss.

00:09:16.000 He went in for a kiss.

00:09:18.000 Everyone's laughing.

00:09:19.000 The girl's having such a good time. 1.00

00:09:20.000 She feels so comfortable.

00:09:21.000 She's going to turn her back on the sea lion for the most violent thing you've ever seen. 1.00

00:09:29.000 There it goes.

00:09:32.000 Gotcha!

00:09:33.000 It is just as bad as it gets.

00:09:36.000 It is a ragdolling. 1.00

00:09:38.000 I love it so much.

00:09:39.000 And by the way, for those of you, sea otters, and people are like, oh, they hold hands, the male female sea otter, they hold hands when they sleep outside on BuzzFeed.

00:09:45.000 No.

00:09:46.000 The male sea otter picks his mate by biting the female sea otter in the face, clawing her neck, and copulating the life out of her. 0.66

00:09:46.000 Okay? 0.66

00:09:52.000 Whenever you see PETA out there with signs saying, save the sea otters, there are throngs of female sea otters saying, no! 1.00

00:09:58.000 No!

00:09:59.000 It's like sleeping with the enemy.

00:10:00.000 They're Julia Roberts just trying to get their swim away at dusk. 0.64

00:10:04.000 Hide behind the buoy.

00:10:06.000 But listen, for those, we never obviously show anything where someone gets seriously hurt.

00:10:09.000 So not the hero that this girl needed, but the one she deserved.

00:10:13.000 Thank God Dr.

00:10:15.000 David Dow was there for the rescue.

00:10:17.000 Oh my God!

00:10:18.000 Oh my God! 1.00

00:10:23.000 Kill me. 1.00

00:10:26.000 Kill me. 1.00

00:10:30.000 He's everywhere. 1.00

00:10:31.000 He's everywhere, man.

00:10:32.000 In fact, he sued the Sea Otter's family and got 15 million.

00:10:37.000 He did.

00:10:38.000 Good for him.

00:10:39.000 Serves his purpose.

00:10:40.000 All right, so CNN right now.

00:10:42.000 This was an article today.

00:10:43.000 Not Gay Jared brought it up.

00:10:44.000 They're bitching about what they're calling Trump fatigue.

00:10:48.000 Sorry.

00:10:48.000 And basically the article criticizes Trump supporters of being numb or turning off CNN's fake news.

00:10:55.000 They basically admit themselves that they are fake news.

00:10:58.000 Here's the thing with CNN, and we'll talk something else about, too, their collusion with Twitter, which I think is important based on one of the comments from their recent co-founders.

00:11:06.000 Recent co-founders.

00:11:07.000 One of the recent comments from their co-founders.

00:11:08.000 Stroke mouth. 0.95

00:11:10.000 CNN is basically a campaign to have Trump impeached.

00:11:13.000 That's all it is.

00:11:14.000 That's all it is.

00:11:15.000 24-7.

00:11:16.000 Seriously, look at the app or the site any time of day.

00:11:19.000 any week just chomp chomp chomp chomp chomp chomp well there's a study that just came out that showed the overwhelmingly negative coverage of Donald Trump Yeah.

00:11:27.000 And as a matter of fact, they tried to...

00:11:28.000 And the only one who covered Donald Trump positively was Fox News, though it depended on the issue.

00:11:34.000 Isn't that what journalism is supposed to be?

00:11:36.000 Oh my god!

00:11:36.000 You just said Fox News is real journalism!

00:11:39.000 What I do love about the Trump era is that we've talked about this on the show for so many years now, where MSNBC, everyone knew, but I was always saying CNN is just as bad. 0.96

00:11:47.000 The Anderson Cooper is the Don Lemons, that fat gay bald guy who always appears on there. 0.96

00:11:51.000 I don't know his name. 1.00

00:11:52.000 Fat gay bald guy on CNN. I really think they're worse at this point in time on the Trump stuff than Vox... 0.99

00:11:57.000 Worse than Huffo.

00:11:57.000 You see Jake Tapper, who everyone really loved and respected, he even tried to corner Marco Rubio, getting him to speculate on Jake Tapper's speculation.

00:12:06.000 Yeah.

00:12:08.000 It was so funny.

00:12:09.000 And Rubio didn't buy it at all.

00:12:10.000 And in one of their articles, they say this in the Trump Fatigue article, I thought it was hilarious.

00:12:14.000 They say, you know, or the final option, what you should do is shut off your TV, turn off your computer, take the Twitter app off your phone, and stop reading anything that starts with Donald Trump said.

00:12:24.000 But as soon as you're reading the article...

00:12:25.000 The CNN notification comes up.

00:12:26.000 Donald Trump said they're the worst offenders.

00:12:31.000 And we'll get into it more because I want to get into what happened here with the Twitter co-founder.

00:12:35.000 So the Twitter co-founder, Evan Williams. 0.99

00:12:38.000 By the way, his whiskey sucks. 0.98

00:12:39.000 That's not true. 0.99

00:12:40.000 Some of it's okay.

00:12:40.000 But he said this, and I think this is really alarming.

00:12:42.000 He said, I thought once everybody could speak freely, he's talking about Twitter, and exchange information and ideas freely.

00:12:48.000 The world is automatically, meaning it would automatically, be a better place, he told the Washington Times.

00:12:53.000 I was wrong about that.

00:12:55.000 So he says here, I was wrong about the idea of a platform that allows for free speech.

00:13:00.000 Here's his justification.

00:13:02.000 If it's true that he, meaning President Trump, wouldn't be president if it weren't for Twitter, then yeah, I'm sorry.

00:13:09.000 Think of how scary this is for a second.

00:13:11.000 He's saying, you know, I was wrong.

00:13:12.000 I thought I really supported freedom of speech.

00:13:14.000 I wanted a platform that was pro-freedom of speech.

00:13:16.000 But I was wrong.

00:13:17.000 Not, I was wrong because ISIS and radicals have used social media as a platform.

00:13:24.000 Or even, you know, I was wrong because fake news has become a problem where people just make stuff up and it's clickbait.

00:13:29.000 And they make tons of money lying to people.

00:13:31.000 Or didgeridoo porn running around for a course of their platform.

00:13:34.000 You know, the abuse of the boomerang and wonderful aboriginal culture. 0.94

00:13:38.000 Not I was wrong about that.

00:13:40.000 He is wrong because he didn't get precisely the result he wanted in an election.

00:13:46.000 I was wrong about free speech because my broad didn't win.

00:13:51.000 Think about how scary that is for a second.

00:13:53.000 They're willing to completely do a 180 on something that should be one of the most fundamental values in your life.

00:14:00.000 The First Amendment is a great divider.

00:14:01.000 Before we even get to the Second Amendment, where do you line up on free speech?

00:14:04.000 Now, Twitter is a business, has the right to do whatever they want, but he was saying the business model was an open platform and is now saying that's a bad thing because of President Trump.

00:14:14.000 Maybe this is why their Twitter stock is plummeting.

00:14:17.000 That's five days, right?

00:14:18.000 Yeah, that's five days.

00:14:19.000 And then that's after we have, that's five years.

00:14:22.000 That's like the focus study group when they were watching About Schmidt and Kathy Bates' nude scene shows up.

00:14:30.000 Frank Luntz and his sneakers and toupee. 0.90

00:14:32.000 Now, do you like her breasts or not? 0.99

00:14:35.000 I don't know, Frank Luntz.

00:14:36.000 Why do you have a job?

00:14:38.000 So...

00:14:38.000 I just, this just goes to show, they lump everyone in too, by the way.

00:14:42.000 There are so many Americans out there who pulled, you know, kind of held their nose, pulled the lever for Donald Trump, or so many Americans who were tired with Barack Obama, a lot of black Americans, if you look at the statistics, who voted for Donald Trump, even union workers across the Rust Belt.

00:14:54.000 And people like this on Twitter, they throw that entire voting base...

00:14:59.000 In with Nazis and Pepe the Frog as though, you know what? 0.63

00:15:03.000 Maybe you people are just bad.

00:15:05.000 Maybe you're out of time.

00:15:06.000 Maybe you're wrong.

00:15:07.000 And instead of listening, they're going, yeah, we were wrong about freedom of speech.

00:15:10.000 We were wrong to think that listening would be good because we lost.

00:15:13.000 Now we need to listen less.

00:15:15.000 Is it me?

00:15:17.000 It's scary.

00:15:18.000 And that's one thing, one reason I really appreciate Mark Duplasson coming on because he's a guy who's like, hey, we lost.

00:15:23.000 Maybe we should listen more, actually.

00:15:25.000 Maybe we should actually talk.

00:15:27.000 Yeah.

00:15:28.000 How dare you?

00:15:29.000 I know.

00:15:29.000 The nerve on that boy.

00:15:31.000 Oh, that boy.

00:15:32.000 Alright, final thing we'll get to before Mark Duplass because we want to bring him out here.

00:15:35.000 Before we do that, before we do that, we should tease something coming up at some point.

00:15:38.000 What?

00:15:39.000 On the CNN note.

00:15:40.000 What on the CNN note?

00:15:42.000 That's cryptic.

00:15:42.000 We are going to be doing...

00:15:44.000 Oh, that's true.

00:15:44.000 That's true.

00:15:45.000 By the way, we don't know when.

00:15:46.000 We are going to watch CNN for 24 hours.

00:15:49.000 In the coming month, a 24-hour live stream of watching CNN. Me and Nake Jared, you can watch along with us to prove the point.

00:15:57.000 Kind of like the Amy Schumer timer, we will have a timer as to how long it takes before you get into an anti-Trump smear.

00:16:04.000 There should be a drinking game associated with that. 0.97

00:16:05.000 Well, no, he'll be hauled out in a stretcher.

00:16:08.000 Alcohol poisoning is a real thing.

00:16:09.000 If we're doing a drinking game with water, we can get water poisoning.

00:16:12.000 That's true.

00:16:12.000 All loaded guns will be far away from us.

00:16:13.000 Yes, it will be far away from us, not within reach.

00:16:16.000 24 hours, Naki, Jared, and I will watch continually, non-stop, nothing but CNN, just so you can see how bad it's gotten.

00:16:23.000 Okay, final story.

00:16:24.000 Clint Eastwood went on a rant on political correctness.

00:16:27.000 Nope.

00:16:28.000 At Cannes Film Festival, he said a lot of people thought it was politically incorrect regarding Dirty Harry.

00:16:32.000 He said that was the beginning of the era that we're in now, where everybody thinks everyone's politically correct.

00:16:37.000 We're killing ourselves by doing that.

00:16:39.000 We've lost our sense of humor.

00:16:41.000 He made some really valid points that people should hear.

00:16:44.000 Unfortunately, he made them to an empty chair, so I wish more people would have been there to hear them.

00:16:48.000 And what's funny is we did our top five films that you can never make today.

00:16:51.000 You know, Blazing Saddles was number one.

00:16:52.000 But the entire Dirty Harry series...

00:16:55.000 We included that.

00:16:56.000 We included that.

00:16:57.000 You couldn't do it now.

00:16:58.000 Slapshot.

00:16:59.000 I think...

00:16:59.000 Was Slapshot in there?

00:17:00.000 I think Slapshot was in there.

00:17:02.000 It should be.

00:17:02.000 You can go just run a search, if you're watching on YouTube, Crowder, top five movies, and it'll have top five movies that you could not have made.

00:17:08.000 But the entire Dirty Harry series...

00:17:11.000 All the way up to, you know, sudden impact could not be made today.

00:17:15.000 I mean, if the left, today's Hollywood left, and they were always out of touch, but if today's Hollywood left had gotten their grubby paws on the series, you would have had a very different Mr.

00:17:25.000 Callahan.

00:17:27.000 Now I know what you're thinking.

00:17:41.000 Is this the Eden transition or just pansexual curious?

00:17:48.000 To tell you the truth, given today's gender spectrum, I find it hard to tell myself. 1.00

00:17:53.000 But given that any assault on me would count as an extra hate crime with an additional ten years punishable in prison, just on account of Verrouge, you have to ask yourself one question.

00:18:06.000 Do I feel tolerant?

00:18:10.000 Well, do you?

00:18:13.000 Punk.

00:18:14.000 Hey.

00:18:26.000 I got to know.

00:18:30.000 Oh.

00:18:37.000 Oh.

00:18:42.000 I'm just a fan.

00:18:45.000 Oh, the forgotten, just traditional gay. 1.00

00:18:51.000 We don't even think about them anymore.

00:18:53.000 I actually think I like that version of Dirty Harry.

00:18:55.000 You can tweet us if you want him back.

00:18:57.000 We have Mark Duplass coming up next.

00:18:58.000 Stay tuned.

00:18:59.000 It's just.

00:19:00.000 We're doing what I won't let.

00:19:02.000 Mary.

00:19:03.000 Your heart.

00:19:03.000 I'll see you.

00:19:04.000 I'll see you.

00:19:06.000 Get funny.

00:19:07.000 Who got the background?

00:19:08.000 Hey.

00:19:09.000 Where came up?

00:19:10.000 Got the back in the.

00:19:11.000 I love Bahamas.

00:20:02.000 Is Blackjack your game?

00:20:04.000 It's not so much my game, as it seemed my kind of place.

00:20:11.000 I'll stay.

00:20:13.000 You sure you don't want to try for more?

00:20:15.000 Well, when I see something I like, I know how to hang on to it.

00:20:19.000 Interesting philosophy.

00:20:23.000 What can you tell me about that mug club?

00:20:27.000 I'm just a girl looking for a good time.

00:20:33.000 Hit me.

00:20:34.000 Are you sure that's what you want?

00:20:38.000 Oh, I'm quite sure.

00:20:41.000 Positive.

00:20:42.000 Hit me. 1.00

00:20:43.000 Hit me. 1.00

00:20:44.000 Hey! 0.99

00:20:47.000 Oblige! 0.78

00:20:48.000 Letcha! 1.00

00:20:49.000 Letcha! Jack-Eye! 1.00

00:20:51.000 America!

00:20:52.000 Thank you.

00:21:22.000 All right, there we go.

00:21:26.000 We have to let Pogo play out.

00:21:27.000 Everyone loves Pogo.

00:21:27.000 And actually, I will tell you this.

00:21:28.000 We've probably gotten more positive feedback on an interview with this next gentleman.

00:21:33.000 This guy.

00:21:34.000 When you get recognized all the time.

00:21:36.000 Just like a week ago, even, someone recognized me, and this is the interview they brought up and said, I really liked that interview with this guy.

00:21:41.000 I'll let you...

00:21:42.000 Well, and I hope he has the same feedback.

00:21:44.000 I hope people were kind and positive with him.

00:21:46.000 At Mark Duplass on Twitter and his show on HBO, I believe I have this right, Room 104 is coming out soon, right?

00:21:53.000 That's right.

00:21:53.000 Room 104.

00:21:54.000 Well, I'm really glad to have you back.

00:21:57.000 I know it sounds like it warms my heart, but I'm glad to always have someone with a differing opinion come back in a friendly atmosphere.

00:22:04.000 Did you receive mostly positive feedback from the last time you were on?

00:22:07.000 I gotta say, I'm not putting a shine on it.

00:22:10.000 It was incredibly positive.

00:22:12.000 I got a couple of people, and it was 50-50, a couple of people from the right just extremely upset with me just because of the nature of my existence and my views, and I don't think they could transcend the fact that my profile is that of an extremely out-of-touch Hollywood person.

00:22:31.000 And by the way, Fine.

00:22:33.000 I can handle that.

00:22:35.000 And then I also got some stuff from the left being like, hey, you can't go on Crowder and normalize these types of opinions by being friendly to them.

00:22:44.000 And that's not okay, which I totally disagree with.

00:22:48.000 But I'm like, I understand.

00:22:49.000 I respect that opinion.

00:22:50.000 So that was pretty minimal.

00:22:52.000 But overall, the thing that I really got was like, Hey, man, don't agree with you at all, but really appreciate you coming and having a civil conversation.

00:23:04.000 And I'd like to see what you're up to.

00:23:06.000 And in particular, you know, next time you sort of start one of your charity campaigns, as long as it's like a pretty, you know, bipartisan cause, I'm in.

00:23:15.000 I'm there to help.

00:23:16.000 So that was very encouraging.

00:23:18.000 Well, I'm glad to see that.

00:23:19.000 I also got thousands of comments of people saying they hated me because they watched Creep that night.

00:23:23.000 And then they couldn't stick. 0.96

00:23:25.000 So, that obviously is indicative of a great performance, but I can't tell people like, screw you, I hate you, you made me watch Creep, and I can't... 0.71

00:23:31.000 Because everyone has a friend like that.

00:23:33.000 I remember my friend, let's call him Adam, because he was named And it was like, oh, you wish he gets a friend, just not you.

00:23:41.000 Everyone had that friend.

00:23:42.000 So I'm glad to hear that.

00:23:43.000 And then after that, you went on Dave Rubin's show.

00:23:45.000 Did I hear this correctly?

00:23:46.000 You're going to Africa with Glenn Beck or something?

00:23:49.000 Yeah, I went on Rubin.

00:23:52.000 Rubin and I had a great conversation.

00:23:53.000 Rubin and I are obviously a lot closer on our core values, so I didn't really worry that that was going to be an issue.

00:23:59.000 And then I went on Glenn Beck, who I found truly fascinating.

00:24:03.000 He reached out to me and...

00:24:05.000 I guess that I wasn't paying close enough attention on the shifts he was going through as a person.

00:24:11.000 And my feeling was just like, oh, this guy has had a really hard time in life and is now much less confident in his theories and is much more open as to what's going to work.

00:24:20.000 And we had fun.

00:24:23.000 I think we had a lot of fun realizing that if we had chosen to talk about abortion, we would be screaming at each other.

00:24:29.000 But we found a couple of connection points.

00:24:31.000 We're both big charity guys.

00:24:33.000 And I'm...

00:24:35.000 I am essentially a libertarian when it comes to my business, you know?

00:24:39.000 I look at Hollywood like the government.

00:24:41.000 I'm like, get out of my face.

00:24:42.000 I want to do my own thing, and we connected on that.

00:24:45.000 And so, yeah.

00:24:47.000 And he's a real creative type, too.

00:24:48.000 I think a lot of people don't realize about Glenn Beck, you know?

00:24:52.000 AM radio became so much of a box.

00:24:54.000 I mean, we were on radio for all two.

00:24:55.000 And we said, okay, screw it.

00:24:56.000 Because it is very one note.

00:24:57.000 And you get that whether it's MSNBC or CNN, you know, on the left.

00:25:01.000 And then on the right, it gets to this, you know, red meat.

00:25:04.000 I don't like you liberals.

00:25:06.000 And I know...

00:25:08.000 People like Glenn Beck kind of felt like they were put in that box.

00:25:10.000 And we've always managed to just break outside that box and then the sand goes everywhere and generate no revenue.

00:25:15.000 But I'm glad to hear that.

00:25:18.000 You know, here's one thing I find interesting that you say that from the left, because I've gotten that a lot where they're like, you can't normalize his views.

00:25:23.000 Yeah.

00:25:27.000 that are ones that shouldn't be normalized.

00:25:29.000 For example, yeah, I understand you probably shouldn't go on a neo-Nazi show who actually believes in murdering people who aren't white or something like that.

00:25:37.000 But I've never had a leftist actually capable to point to my views, which are so extreme that that couldn't be normalized.

00:25:43.000 Did they give you any specifics or just don't do it?

00:25:46.000 No, no.

00:25:47.000 And just in all fairness, both of those extremist opinions I got felt like, quite honestly, people who were just knee-jerk reactioning and maybe even trying to get me to respond to them on Twitter.

00:25:58.000 Some people kind of poke me on purpose just so they're like, hey, Mark Duplass wrote to me.

00:26:02.000 So I didn't get the sense that that was an extremely well-vetted and thought-out opinion.

00:26:07.000 I think it's just, quite honestly, what you represent to the left.

00:26:11.000 If someone is an extremist leftist and they look at You know, your feed on Twitter or something like that.

00:26:16.000 They're just going to pick up on those little nuggets that are catchy things to get people to watch a show, and they're going to think that that encapsulates you, and you're thusly defined, and they don't want to deal with you.

00:26:25.000 And, you know, I mean, I get that from the right a little bit, but it's not the fault.

00:26:30.000 Well, that's what I find interesting, because I don't, if I go on a leftist show, the criticism I get from the right is never, you shouldn't do that show.

00:26:39.000 It's Hey, that guy is wrong about...

00:26:41.000 You should have called him out on this, that, or the other thing.

00:26:44.000 Whereas I have heard from most liberal guests who come on the show, and this is the problem that I think we see that I would say is kind of exclusive to the left, and that is you shouldn't have this conversation at all.

00:26:56.000 Because that's never the criticism I get for having you on the show or going on Ruben's show or something like that.

00:27:02.000 I feel that's a very different reaction.

00:27:04.000 Well, you know what?

00:27:05.000 Now that you say that...

00:27:07.000 To be more clear, the point is not so much that I came at all.

00:27:12.000 It's that you let him express all these views and you didn't word him up as a true representative of the left.

00:27:18.000 It is somewhat similar to what you're talking about.

00:27:21.000 It is like, how could you just accept that and listen and validate that when, for me, as a person who's been to therapy and is in a marriage, validation is everything.

00:27:30.000 That's how I get by in all of my relationships.

00:27:32.000 I look at so many political arguments right now and I'm just like, Anyway, it's been very interesting as I've gone through this process as an extremely uneducated person in politics in general.

00:27:44.000 Like, I'm just leaning into this as a hobby.

00:27:46.000 And I'm on a fact-finding mission as opposed to a, like, let me show you what's up and how to do it.

00:27:53.000 And over the last, like, two months or so, I've learned, like...

00:27:57.000 Kind of incredible things that have been, I don't know, like I've found a lot of my own personal blind spots on some stuff, so it's been good.

00:28:05.000 Do you have anything specific that you would say was like a blind spot?

00:28:07.000 I mean, not to put you on the spot at all.

00:28:09.000 Like, in terms of specific blind spots, like one great one that I got, mostly from Twitter, from people on the right, was like, why don't people on the left support veterans?

00:28:22.000 What's the issue here?

00:28:24.000 And I thought about it and my initial reaction was to get defensive and be like, I like veterans and we do.

00:28:29.000 And then I thought about it and I was like, you know what?

00:28:30.000 A lot of liberals really don't.

00:28:32.000 You hear them championing causes, you hear them championing charities, and they don't do stuff for veterans.

00:28:36.000 And I realized what it was, I think, is that veterans get grouped up We're good to go.

00:28:59.000 Like, veterans are caught up in that.

00:29:01.000 So that was a really great blind spot that was called on me, and I was like, you're right.

00:29:04.000 So now I'm like, let me try and find a really good veteran bipartisan cause that I can run a charitable campaign on.

00:29:11.000 Likewise, as I was talking— Well, I would say this, too, actually, as far as a blind spot on the right.

00:29:15.000 I think—and we've seen it with people who—we see it all the time.

00:29:18.000 There's constant corruption with veteran charities in the right because the right is so quick to give money to veterans' causes.

00:29:24.000 And a lot of the time, people take advantage of that.

00:29:26.000 And so this idea, if you go, well, wait, hold on a second.

00:29:29.000 I support the veterans or even I support the war, but I don't support this specific organization.

00:29:34.000 People will jump on you from the right.

00:29:36.000 And that's an area where we've gotten flack for.

00:29:38.000 We've even gotten flack as huge Second Amendment people, for example, talking about certain gun organizations going, hold on a second, these maybe aren't the organizations you want to support, and they take that as an attack on the idea.

00:29:50.000 So I think that goes both ways.

00:29:52.000 Yeah.

00:29:53.000 And then, you know, I kind of I got into a lot of like America first type discussions because, you know, we talked about this a little bit last time, like my kind of personal feeling of just like, you know, it's not just your neighbor.

00:30:04.000 It's everybody.

00:30:04.000 We're in a global environment.

00:30:06.000 And one thing that was a real easy blind spot that I caught on at least some of my fans on the right.

00:30:12.000 It was like, you know, why are you not giving more money to people at home when there's so many problems at home?

00:30:18.000 Why are you trying to do all these international charity works?

00:30:21.000 Like, what are you doing?

00:30:21.000 We gotta fix our stuff here.

00:30:24.000 And so I was able to cross the aisle on a really good clean water cause.

00:30:30.000 And it was like, okay.

00:30:32.000 People on the right generally want to know that we're giving fishing poles, we're not giving fish.

00:30:38.000 If we're giving charity, we want it to be a sustainable system that's not going to create dependence on us.

00:30:42.000 And it's like, okay, so these clean water charities are a perfect thing.

00:30:46.000 You go in, you install a clean water system, you walk away, it's there, it's great.

00:30:50.000 So I ran something, I ran a campaign on that, we raised like $10,000, and I got a ton of support from the right on that, which was really great.

00:30:59.000 So that was like a big thing, was just like, okay, if you're not super defensive about your blind spots, stuff can work out pretty well.

00:31:05.000 Let me ask you this.

00:31:06.000 Do you feel as though, now I would argue from a factual standpoint, there's a book called Who Really Cares by David Brooks?

00:31:14.000 I think by David Brooks, and it talks about people who give, and conservative Christians actually just tend to be the most charitable, and this is not a conservative Christian.

00:31:20.000 That's 100%.

00:31:21.000 No one can deny that.

00:31:23.000 Well, I'm interested.

00:31:24.000 It's interesting that you would say that.

00:31:25.000 Arthur Brooks.

00:31:25.000 David Brooks is the New York Times guy.

00:31:27.000 I always get them mixed up.

00:31:28.000 But it's interesting that you say that.

00:31:30.000 Do you think this would maybe open your eyes to this idea?

00:31:32.000 Again, we've always talked about this just sort of questioning intent.

00:31:35.000 You see a lot from, we say, from the left.

00:31:38.000 And I would stand in that position.

00:31:39.000 And if you think I'm wrong, you can tell me why.

00:31:41.000 But a lot of the time, I say, well, why don't you care about X? Has this maybe opened your eyes that actually...

00:31:47.000 Conservative, Christian, red state countries seem to care more and are willing to part with their dollars more, just not by force.

00:31:54.000 Do you feel that's an accurate assessment?

00:31:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:56.000 I mean, from what I can tell and from what I can hear, that seems to be pretty broadly accepted.

00:32:01.000 Whether it's true or not, that seems to be the thing that people are saying, which is just like...

00:32:06.000 Why are you forcing me to give to this organization?

00:32:09.000 Please tax me less.

00:32:10.000 I'm a generous person.

00:32:12.000 And some version of either trickle-down economics because I have more money, I'll put it into the economy, it'll feed everything, or because I have more money and you didn't tax me, I am now free to give more.

00:32:21.000 I hear that a lot.

00:32:23.000 And not just, I think, by force, but we really care about the effectiveness a lot.

00:32:29.000 That's why so many conservatives have problems with the welfare state the way it is.

00:32:33.000 We see an effectiveness leak.

00:32:35.000 Yeah.

00:32:36.000 Well, that's the issue.

00:32:36.000 We talked about this even with Stefan Molyneux, who's an atheist, for example.

00:32:40.000 He's an atheist philosopher, but he actually said, I actually find that I like Christians more.

00:32:45.000 I said, A, because atheists tend to be very aggressive and unemployed. 1.00

00:32:47.000 And he's an atheist.

00:32:48.000 But he said, also, it's just they're willing to go through the process, even if we come to different conclusions.

00:32:56.000 And I think contrasting when I talk about the left, you saw that tweet right after Roger Ailes died.

00:33:02.000 By the way, we had written like five Roger Ailes jokes the day he died.

00:33:06.000 They were hilarious.

00:33:06.000 We just didn't use them like, well, that's tasteless.

00:33:08.000 But they were jokes.

00:33:10.000 Whereas Cenk Weger, when I used terms like the left, came out and said, I'm glad he had those two extra years so he could die alone, humiliated and destitute.

00:33:17.000 And the spirit of that is just so much meaner.

00:33:21.000 And I feel as though that's more accepted on the mainstream left. 1.00

00:33:24.000 Just the spirit of idiot, you dumbass, you don't care. 1.00

00:33:28.000 It's okay as long as we're winning. 1.00

00:33:31.000 So I have a couple thoughts on that.

00:33:33.000 Go ahead.

00:33:35.000 Getting a general vibe based on our whole conversation here and the tone of how this is going that like What I feel for you in a very respectful way and a very gentle way is you're ready to engage in a debate with me on how the left is actually behaving in bad ways and you're ready to stand on some positions that are saying left behaving worse than people on the right a couple of times and you know what you may very well be right and my position is I'm actually not

00:34:05.000 in a position from a state of being as educated you are politically about all these things, or do I have the interest actually in engaging in it?

00:34:16.000 Because what's happening to me lately, and look, you can disagree with this or not, what's happening to me lately, where I'm finding my place is of interest to me and that people are responding to, is just as simple as I can possibly say, is in ferreting out Similarities and not differences.

00:34:37.000 And this has been the most exciting thing to me.

00:34:40.000 And I bring it up in reference to, you know, the Glenn Beck situation where I was just like, dude, if he and I want to go at it, I mean, we can go at it all day long, respectfully or telling or whatever it is.

00:34:51.000 What I found really fascinating and what I'm trying to dial in right now is this kind of new form of debate.

00:34:57.000 And Glenn and I are setting up a couple of speaking engagements to this tune, which is basically saying like, okay, It's very easy for us to get into a room and talk about why we think one side is behaving worse than the other, why one side is maybe more right than the other.

00:35:10.000 What if we got to a place where we said, okay, what if we try to cobble together some ideas and try and build upon what we know from each side of an argument upon a system that doesn't work on either side?

00:35:22.000 For instance, welfare.

00:35:24.000 Whoever's running it, the government, whether it's the right or the left, it's just not working.

00:35:29.000 So what if the form of debate was...

00:35:32.000 Well, I don't have the answers, and you don't have the answers.

00:35:36.000 Maybe we could try and build something together, and try and build on some ideas.

00:35:41.000 This is the thing that I have discovered through this process that is the most interesting to me, and I don't know how that resonates with you, and that's kind of what I was...

00:35:49.000 No, I agree with that, and I'm not looking for...

00:35:51.000 I was asking because of kind of the reaction that you mentioned coming off of the last show, and the reaction...

00:35:57.000 Of some of those people.

00:35:58.000 Yeah, and the reaction that we've gotten, like I said, this last week has just been exhausting.

00:36:01.000 I mean, it's just been in politics.

00:36:02.000 It's not fun for anyone on either side.

00:36:05.000 I'm sure we could find a litany of...

00:36:07.000 Here's what I would say.

00:36:07.000 I am willing to write off the percentage of extremists on the left who come at me and say any of those things you're talking about, being a little more vitriolic than they should, a little more reactionary, ready to just call anyone a racist, xenophobe, homophobic person when they say one thing wrong, or, to your point, make tasteless jokes about Roger Ailes' death.

00:36:26.000 Likewise, I am willing to write off someone on the right who comes at me and discredits... 1.00

00:36:31.000 Anything I say or do because I want to support Planned Parenthood and just saying, you're a f***ing baby killer, go to hell and die. 1.00

00:36:39.000 I'm not really going to be able to engage in that. 1.00

00:36:42.000 No, you're not.

00:36:42.000 And I will tell you this.

00:36:44.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:36:44.000 Let me ask you this, because what you said, I think there are common grounds.

00:36:48.000 It's sort of predicated on the idea that both people say, well, maybe you don't have the answers and I don't have the answers.

00:36:53.000 Let's build something.

00:36:53.000 What if someone respectfully says, I do think I have some of the answers and would point to it?

00:37:00.000 For example, I think Planned Parenthood is an example.

00:37:04.000 We talked about this.

00:37:05.000 They don't provide mammograms.

00:37:06.000 They cannot provide breast cancer screenings.

00:37:07.000 It's just they never have.

00:37:08.000 They never will.

00:37:09.000 They can't.

00:37:10.000 And they actually don't provide the majority of women's health care in the country. 1.00

00:37:13.000 So I would say an answer, for example, this would be an answer coming from the right, respectfully.

00:37:19.000 In other words, I'm starting off saying, okay, it's not neither one of us have the answers.

00:37:22.000 I think I have an answer, and you can tell me if you think it's wrong.

00:37:24.000 Conservatives do not have a problem with giving funding to other crisis pregnancy centers or pregnancy resource centers that don't perform abortions.

00:37:33.000 And there are more than enough of those.

00:37:34.000 Yeah.

00:37:35.000 Would that not be something that people could find?

00:37:37.000 I mean, common ground if, again, we're not even talking about removing the public funding at this point.

00:37:41.000 Just let's just put it into places where they don't actually perform the abortion services. 1.00

00:37:48.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it's a very rational argument, you know?

00:37:52.000 None of those organizations, to my knowledge, are as big and have as much reach as Planned Parenthood does.

00:37:58.000 You know, when you're dealing with, like, three to four percent of the services of Planned Parenthood actually go towards abortion, I would say that, like, those other services are worthwhile and they aren't worth defunding.

00:38:07.000 But I understand one-issue voting, you know?

00:38:10.000 And I understand.

00:38:12.000 I'm the last person who's going to come up and say, like, If you are truly a pro-life person, it's really hard for me to stand and say, like, you should absolutely vote for the support of Planned Parenthood.

00:38:24.000 I get why you don't, and I'm okay with that.

00:38:27.000 Well, let me...

00:38:27.000 And this is not to argue about it, because my wife, that's what she does.

00:38:30.000 She works at a crisis pregnancy center.

00:38:32.000 Volunteers, actually, I should say.

00:38:33.000 And we were just talking about this the other day.

00:38:35.000 You know, the most common...

00:38:36.000 No one doesn't know about birth control in 2017.

00:38:38.000 As a matter of fact, in the years she's done it, it's never happened once.

00:38:42.000 that someone didn't know, they knew, they decided not to use it for whatever reason.

00:38:46.000 Often a man is pressuring a woman into an abortion.

00:38:48.000 They'll come to this clinic, and they've talked about how easy it is to get women to have the child or to give it up for adoption, just as easy as it would be to veer them toward abortion. 0.55

00:38:57.000 They come in, and they're looking for a decision to make.

00:39:00.000 And at these crisis pregnancy centers, legally they are not allowed to tell someone, this is what you do.

00:39:05.000 As a matter of fact, all they do is provide resources and facts.

00:39:07.000 If a woman has an ultrasound, nine times out of ten, she doesn't get the abortion anymore. 0.98

00:39:11.000 If she knows that there's a beating heart at, I think, six weeks, they inform them with these kind of, they give them this kind of information.

00:39:18.000 I understand your point, yeah.

00:39:20.000 But the issue with Planned Parenthood, for example, this is where, not to fact check anyone, but this idea that 3-4% are only abortions, it's not true.

00:39:28.000 And the reason for that, this is again where I would say conservatives are saying, hey, we can find common ground by giving it to other organizations.

00:39:35.000 You know, if you go in for an abortion to Planned Parenthood, Abby Johnson wrote a great book on this. 0.91

00:39:39.000 She was a former worker there.

00:39:41.000 If you go in, you have an examination.

00:39:44.000 Let's say you have some kind of a pap smear or they give you a prescription.

00:39:47.000 You meet with a doctor.

00:39:48.000 If all of these are done to perform an abortion, that could be counted as five or seven services, even though every single one of those services was an auxiliary service to the abortion.

00:39:57.000 Even though it's an abortion, that would count as one out of seven services.

00:40:00.000 And so they do trick the numbers because the vast majority of their actual money comes from abortions, and that's why we have a problem with it.

00:40:08.000 It is the big ticket item there.

00:40:08.000 It's the big ticket item.

00:40:09.000 And if they're just as incentivized to push people to the big ticket item as my wife is to push people away from it. 1.00

00:40:15.000 And I think that's a place where we could find common ground, even if we're not pro-life.

00:40:19.000 Like, hey, we just don't want to be paying for it.

00:40:21.000 Right.

00:40:22.000 I totally understand your point.

00:40:24.000 I hear you.

00:40:26.000 I feel like we are more entering the realm of it.

00:40:29.000 I don't mean to do that in a second because that is something where it's just like I think it needs to be okay.

00:40:33.000 And when you say not to fact check and you fact check me, that's fact checking.

00:40:36.000 Well, I think it's helping to educate because that's why people might be so defensive on the right because, for example, they hear a talking point so often and when we know it not to be true – And I don't think that you know it not to. 0.93

00:40:48.000 I don't think you're an ignorant person.

00:40:50.000 I don't think you're an uneducated person. 0.59

00:40:51.000 I just think it's something they throw out so often that if you don't do more than a glance, it's easy to accept it.

00:40:57.000 And I think that that's more important than just saying, hey, let's meet in the middle, is if someone says, well, hold on a second, what if that is incorrect?

00:41:04.000 And then meeting together on, you know, agreeing on the actual information.

00:41:09.000 That's my goal.

00:41:10.000 Listen, I hear you, and I think it's totally fine for you and I to have different agendas in terms of what we're about.

00:41:18.000 Because from my personal perspective, there's...

00:41:24.000 When I feel the response from people in terms of what is effective right now, like what you felt last time was like you felt probably zero resistance from me coming in and trying to listen and try and like hear some things of you.

00:41:38.000 And I think that that was really eye opening to your audience that like anyone from the left could do that.

00:41:43.000 Because quite frankly, I think that we are so dug in right now.

00:41:47.000 We are so extremely vitriolic that anytime that there's an open and listening energy, it's just extremely powerful.

00:41:53.000 Right.

00:41:55.000 There's a documentary on Netflix that I would encourage you to watch or encourage any of your viewers to watch.

00:42:01.000 It's really fascinating.

00:42:02.000 It's called Accidental Courtesy, okay?

00:42:05.000 It's not the bodyguard film of Justin Bieber's bodyguard, for those wondering.

00:42:08.000 It's not the bodyguard film.

00:42:09.000 The worst documentary.

00:42:10.000 I thought, there's no way they could make this boring.

00:42:12.000 They did.

00:42:13.000 Five-star documentary.

00:42:15.000 So there's a guy named Daryl Davis.

00:42:18.000 He's a black musician from Illinois.

00:42:20.000 Oh, yes!

00:42:20.000 I watched this.

00:42:21.000 Yes, go ahead.

00:42:22.000 Okay, so...

00:42:23.000 What he does is, for those who haven't seen it, is he befriends members of the Ku Klux Klan. 0.65

00:42:30.000 And he doesn't sit with them and tell them in respectful, intelligent debate and with data why they should not be a part of the Ku Klux Klan.

00:42:40.000 And he doesn't even use his knowledge to convince them, which I think pretty much everybody can get on board with, It's bad.

00:42:55.000 He doesn't do any of that.

00:42:57.000 He sits with them, he has drinks with them, he listens to them, he doesn't challenge them, and he befriends them.

00:43:05.000 And now he has a closet full of Ku Klux Klan memorabilia and Ku Klux Klan robes from these members of the Ku Klux Klan whom he has befriended and who has never once tried to out-debate, never once tried to prove that they were wrong, even gently, and They have left by sheer example. 0.97

00:43:24.000 And that is like, in my opinion, that's some Jesus-level sh** right there. 0.58

00:43:27.000 I mean, that is impressive stuff.

00:43:30.000 And I'm never going to be that person, and I don't know how to be that person, because quite frankly, I'm lucky I don't have to face that kind of persecution.

00:43:36.000 But that has been such a strong example to me of what a powerful version, in my opinion, and what I'm looking for is in debate.

00:43:46.000 because I have a lot of friends on the left that I have a lot of conversations with. - Sure. - And a lot of them are just like, dude, what are you doing?

00:43:54.000 You're wasting your time.

00:43:55.000 You're not arguing positions.

00:43:56.000 You're not trying to pull people over.

00:43:58.000 And I'm like, I'm not going on Crowder to tell him that he's wrong and to pull him over.

00:44:03.000 I'm going on Crowder to open my mind, to listen to him, to hear what he had to say about Planned Parenthood.

00:44:09.000 Let's try and soak some of that in, see if I can get educated, see if I can find another blind spot of my own so I can grow as a person, and quite possibly more importantly, to show some of his fan base that yes, there are people on the left who are willing to listen, and by But I think it'd be okay if you challenged me on something.

00:44:29.000 Put it this way.

00:44:29.000 You can always feel free to.

00:44:31.000 And I want this to be...

00:44:32.000 It's not binary.

00:44:33.000 You can do both.

00:44:34.000 Well, no.

00:44:34.000 I want it to be different because I think a lot of other people are afraid to.

00:44:37.000 And again, I wasn't trying to challenge.

00:44:39.000 It's just that's information that, for example, that a lot of people don't know.

00:44:44.000 But I would, you know, I think when you read it up, you go, oh my god, this is right.

00:44:48.000 I also feel there's the first rung of the ladder, and that's kind of the first time on the show.

00:44:52.000 Someone with Ruben and I would go, oh, we don't hate each other.

00:44:54.000 And I think people also need to be okay.

00:44:57.000 Okay, there's Ring 2.

00:44:58.000 Now you want to dig in.

00:44:59.000 No, not dig in, but like you told me about the veteran thing.

00:45:03.000 I think that's right on the right side.

00:45:05.000 Where, like I said, people are exploited on the right, on the flip side, with raw...

00:45:10.000 I mean, listen, I've worked at Fox News for years, right?

00:45:12.000 They put an American flag behind something, and sometimes it is really easy to fool people into some sense of patriotism where you and I would agree.

00:45:19.000 And I actually, I'm fine with being challenged on those things, as long as it's in a respectful, civil way.

00:45:26.000 And my point is, if ever you think I'm wrong, or your friends think I'm wrong...

00:45:31.000 Yes.

00:45:31.000 I would like to hear my blind spots as well.

00:45:34.000 And the problem is we either get someone like you who's just so nice and you listen.

00:45:39.000 And if we're both just listening, then nothing happens.

00:45:42.000 And then there are people who are just so angry. 0.55

00:45:45.000 They just come on and say, ah, you're a baby killer because you support guns.

00:45:49.000 So I'd like this show to be a balance of all the above. 0.67

00:45:52.000 To your request, here's just a...

00:45:55.000 A gentle challenge.

00:45:58.000 Do you think that someone who is a trans person might take offense at the word tranny at all?

00:46:06.000 I think some of them absolutely would, yeah. 0.54

00:46:09.000 And we've had people on the show who call themselves trannies. 1.00

00:46:12.000 So how do you feel about using that word?

00:46:16.000 What's your sense of that?

00:46:18.000 It's a good question, especially because I think I think you understand sort of the spirit.

00:46:24.000 We don't do things just to hurt people.

00:46:26.000 There are some people on the right who just do things to hurt people.

00:46:29.000 But I come from the Lenny Bruce School of Thought and, you know, the great performance from Dustin Hoffman.

00:46:33.000 You know, don't take my words away.

00:46:36.000 You can't take the words away.

00:46:38.000 I don't know if it is.

00:46:39.000 I haven't seen the movie in a long time.

00:46:41.000 It's Dustin Hoffman doing Lenny Bruce, so we're thrice removed.

00:46:45.000 So I am very, very reserved when it comes to taking words off the table, especially as a comedian because I saw people, I mean a comedian of mine, a friend of mine named Mike in Montreal, left-wing, vegan, and we actually would do colleges together, and he had a bit where he used the word tranny.

00:47:05.000 And never at any point was it considered hateful.

00:47:08.000 So this kind of removing people's words until we're standing on this little plot of land, I do make that, that I think it's more of a moral stand to say, no, we're not going to concede that, then concede each word that might be offensive.

00:47:20.000 But it's a valid question.

00:47:22.000 Is there any credence to the argument, and I actually like...

00:47:25.000 I don't feel the need to strongly make this argument, but I know a lot of people would make the argument.

00:47:30.000 There was a time when the word nigger was totally comfortable to be used, and then we learned that this was a civil rights movement. 0.93

00:47:37.000 These were people that needed to be validated, and they didn't need to be labeled as such with a derogatory word, so we came up with new words, and then They became an equally respected part of society, and that worked out.

00:47:50.000 There are a lot of people in the trans movement who would say, listen, this is a group that has been persecuted and been made fun of and joked about.

00:47:56.000 They're not really a titan of industry that needs to be jabbed and joked at and taken down.

00:48:02.000 They're a group that's having a hard time and could be lifted up and might be not a bad thing to be respectful and give them the terminology that they prefer, even if that has changed over the last couple of years.

00:48:13.000 Well, when they come on the show, we just use neutral anything.

00:48:17.000 Because the truth is, I'm liable to screw up.

00:48:19.000 When I have a guy with mascara on and lipstick who looks like a guy with a 5 o'clock shadow, I'm much more likely to say he.

00:48:24.000 Now, we've had Blair White in the show who looks very much like a woman. 1.00

00:48:28.000 My natural inclination is to say she.

00:48:30.000 Totally.

00:48:30.000 I'm not someone who dies on that hill where, like, well, Caitlyn Jenner, he!

00:48:35.000 Yeah.

00:48:36.000 Let's be honest, okay?

00:48:37.000 We're not all in on this verbal contract, and it's really easy to screw up, so I'm just not going to give the leeway, and if someone says, hey, don't call me a tranny, that's fine.

00:48:46.000 Were you aware that tranny was disrespectful to some people?

00:48:49.000 I'm aware that it's offensive, yeah, even when we played spot the tranny, and we played it with a tranny. 1.00

00:48:54.000 Yeah.

00:48:54.000 I am, but I think the comparison to the N-word, I think it's invalid for a couple of reasons, and I would say invalid for mainly reasons that stem from the left, sort of kneecapping their own arguments, because of this idea of gender fluidity.

00:49:07.000 Well, if there's gender fluidity, then it's kind of, you know, like the whole, I was born this way, well...

00:49:11.000 Actually, it's the opposite.

00:49:12.000 You're saying that someone can't be born into a male brain, or they're born into a female brain.

00:49:17.000 It's actually gender fluid that people can choose not only sexuality, but their gender on a day-to-day basis, and there are 52 different genders that can't be recognized biologically.

00:49:25.000 What do you mean by choosing sexuality?

00:49:27.000 Well, this is pansexual, that you can flip your sexuality day to day.

00:49:32.000 I mean, Huffwood has had a recent article about it, and you can also flip your gender day to day.

00:49:36.000 And I think that comes with a litany of questions.

00:49:38.000 Well, can I change my gender enough to apply for a woman's scholarship grant and then switch back? 1.00

00:49:44.000 I mean, these are questions, and I think that it's an important...

00:49:48.000 There is certainly room for that system in that, like, you can't criticize me because I am a minority of some sort.

00:49:56.000 For abuse of that system.

00:49:58.000 I just don't think it's...

00:49:59.000 I can get away with a lot here because of that.

00:50:01.000 And I think that that's a fair point.

00:50:03.000 Well, we did an experiment with that where Nakajir and I went to a mall where he just, as a gay guy, said the exact same thing that I said as a straight guy.

00:50:09.000 They called the cops on me and they thought he was adorable. 0.99

00:50:13.000 For example, he just walked up and he said, Can I just say your tits are to die for? 0.99

00:50:17.000 Divine. 1.00

00:50:18.000 And I just walked up and Stoneface said, Can I just say your... 1.00

00:50:21.000 Your tits are to die for. 1.00

00:50:22.000 And it wasn't the same exact reaction. 1.00

00:50:25.000 It was funny, though.

00:50:28.000 I don't think it's a valid comparison because you can't choose race.

00:50:33.000 I think that's a word that was designed specifically, if you look at the history of the N-word, designed specifically to demean and make someone subhuman.

00:50:39.000 Tranny was a colloquialism that they coined themselves, and they've now decided to change as a political...

00:50:45.000 Weapon.

00:50:46.000 They weaponize words, whereas I don't think the N-word was weaponized by the victims initially as a word.

00:50:54.000 It was used by the oppressors.

00:50:56.000 And I think there's a very distinct history difference there.

00:50:58.000 That's just my take.

00:51:00.000 That's your take, yeah.

00:51:01.000 Well, you know, I would say that, you know, not a big one, but, like, if you're looking for accessibility, I don't know even that you are, but if you're looking at accessibility on that joke, you're looking for everybody to lean in on it, when a Twitter headline doesn't say tranny in it, you'll get probably further in terms of people being able to laugh at it, you know? 0.86

00:51:18.000 Yeah, most of our Twitter stories with trannies will actually include trannies that are on the show who call themselves that. 1.00

00:51:25.000 But no, I agree with you.

00:51:27.000 I agree with you.

00:51:27.000 Listen, sometimes there's, for example, jokes about Roger Ailes and sexual harassment going up in hell.

00:51:33.000 These are also not going to be the most accessible.

00:51:36.000 And we acknowledge that's the fine line.

00:51:38.000 I would agree with you.

00:51:39.000 Between comedy and trying to reach across the aisle.

00:51:43.000 And we try to walk it fairly.

00:51:44.000 Mr.

00:51:45.000 Duplass, we have to go.

00:51:47.000 Always want to have you back.

00:51:48.000 And listen, always, if ever you think even I'm wrong, or you just want to talk or ask a question, we really want to be, to all of it.

00:51:54.000 If it's just listening and having a conversation, great.

00:51:56.000 And if it's calling me out, or I also want that all of it is welcome here.

00:52:00.000 What I would be interested in, if you are, and we could try this some other time, is like, Finding a system, even if you think you have really good ideas, but that you're not 100% sure you have the right answer on, and that could be something as simple as healthcare because it's so complex, or welfare, whatever it is, and then maybe you and I could pick a subject and see if we could go in on it together and teach each other some things, what we like, what we don't, and see if something could be built.

00:52:27.000 That's kind of interesting to me.

00:52:28.000 It might be boring, but I'm interested.

00:52:29.000 No, no, no.

00:52:30.000 How about this?

00:52:31.000 Because every now and then we have with Patrick Moore, the founder of Greenpeace and Ecology and Atmospheric Science.

00:52:37.000 Sorry, a PhD in Ecology.

00:52:39.000 We did an hour with him.

00:52:39.000 We're going to do an hour with Professor Jordan Peterson this week.

00:52:42.000 Let's say, let's aim for somewhere in three to four weeks.

00:52:45.000 We'll actually just do the full show, the full, it's about an hour, and let's agree on some topics and do that if you want to.

00:52:51.000 That sounds great to me.

00:52:52.000 It'll be interesting.

00:52:53.000 Yeah, it sounds...

00:52:53.000 I really appreciate it, brother.

00:52:56.000 Brother, Mark.

00:52:58.000 Honestly, I was looking forward to having you on, and it really does...

00:53:00.000 We all get a sense of...

00:53:03.000 We get warm and fuzzies thinking about, hey, not everyone has to hate each other.

00:53:07.000 Mr.

00:53:07.000 Crowder, you are my son, and I love you.

00:53:10.000 Thank you very much.

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00:54:33.000 How lovely was that?

00:54:34.000 Hope we have him back.

00:54:35.000 And you know what?

00:54:35.000 Actually, I think I will do with Mark Duplass.

00:54:38.000 Him and I will pick a few topics where we can actually go over, talk about them, but also have some points and counterpoints in a respectful arena.

00:54:44.000 Maybe do it live in person for a charity that we both agree on.

00:54:48.000 That'd be awesome.

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00:54:49.000 So if you want to see that, tweet him at Mark Duplass, me at S. Crowder, maybe not at Not Gay Jared can moderate or whoever Mark Duplass wants.

00:54:56.000 But always glad to have him back.

00:54:58.000 And I think we're actually going to have Lacey Green on the program soon. 0.99

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00:55:02.000 By the way, if you know people out there who are left, who are willing to come on the show, we are always happy to host them.

00:55:09.000 That's a big part of this program.

00:55:10.000 It's just really hard to book them.

00:55:12.000 It's really hard to book them.

00:55:14.000 Tomorrow we have Gavin McGinnis.

00:55:15.000 We are going to do a one-hour special with Jordan Peterson on Wednesday, and then on Thursday we're going to have Tommy Loren live in studio, which is her first kind of live in studio full interview since some of the controversies.

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00:55:58.000 Gosh, I don't know.

00:55:58.000 A handful more shows and a whole bunch coming down the pipeline.

00:56:02.000 A lot of people, especially since YouTube has been doing what they're doing, there are a lot of people who are going to be linking up arms here.

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00:56:10.000 You do.

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00:56:12.000 Yeah, we'll put that up on Friday.

00:56:12.000 So, we'll see you tomorrow on YouTube.

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00:56:14.000 every single night and then Thursday the live stream at 8 as per usual.

00:56:18.000 Tomorrow, Gavin McInnes.

00:56:19.000 We'll see you then.

00:56:19.000 Bye!

Louder with Crowder - May 23, 2017

#172 TRUMP IN ISRAEL! Mark Duplass | Louder With Crowder

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