Trump's trip to Saudi Arabia and Israel got him a lot of praise, but did he overstep the mark? And what does that have to do with women in Mortal Kombat and the scorpion dance? Plus, Mark Duplass joins us to talk about it.
00:03:17.000He talked about being really moved by the Wailing Wall.
00:03:20.000As a matter of fact, he said that we should incorporate it into the United States at our border, A, to honor those Americans with Jewish heritage, and B, it would confuse the hell out of the Mexicans.
00:04:25.000You didn't even see it coming over that wall.
00:04:28.000Okay, so Donald Trump in Saudi Arabia.
00:04:32.000We actually posted a snippet of the speech beforehand at lottowithcudder.com, and it seemed really harsh, a real turn from Obama's rhetoric on terrorism.
00:04:40.000A lot of people thought that he softened it when he was there because he said Islam was one of the world's greatest religions.
00:04:47.000First off, what were your takes on this?
00:04:50.000I was happy to see the U.S. kind of take a lead.
00:04:52.000He did call them out while he was there.
00:04:54.000I watched the speech when it was given.
00:05:09.000But you have to be somewhat diplomatic.
00:05:10.000Well, I mean, somewhat diplomatic, but he was obviously talking before the election, saying if you want to look into 9-11, obviously criticizing Barack Obama and Iraq, he said it was the Saudis, you know, who carried out 9-11.
00:05:20.000Now, the Saudis did not carry out 9-11.
00:05:22.000Many of the terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, and the problem is that, you know, Saudi Arabia kind of turned a blind eye, and Saudi Arabia has shielded organizations who sponsor terror, but that's not all that different from...
00:05:45.000They are moving in the right direction.
00:05:46.000They do a lot of crappy stuff, but they're moving in the right direction, and we want to keep that going.
00:05:49.000And I was excited to see him call and say, hey, look, just out of your temples, out of your places to worship, out of everywhere, just drive the extremists out of here.
00:06:17.000I think overall it was better than, of course, the media would make it out to be.
00:06:20.000Maybe not as successful as some of his supporters who said, he's going to He's going to just take it to Saudi Arabia and Islam.
00:06:26.000The guy we're seeing in a more diplomatic, Trump there.
00:06:28.000So I think in the wake of last week, that's a good thing.
00:06:31.000Cultural appropriation this week in outrage.
00:06:33.000There was an adult homosexual film called Didgeridoo Me, seen by US publisher Men.com.
00:06:41.000It featured two actors effectively using the aboriginal instrument As an enormous sexual apparatus.
00:06:48.000And critics online, they lashed out at the scene saying that it's disrespectful mostly to the didgeridoo, which plays a part in the aboriginal spiritual life.
00:06:59.000I just don't understand, what kind of a human being watching this has the nerve to suddenly claim the moral high ground over cultural appropriation?
00:07:08.000And not only that, has no shame in doing it publicly.
00:07:11.000No, I wasn't searching for this, but I'll watch.
00:07:31.000And then, of course, listen, they were not respecting Aboriginal culture, you know, native Australian culture.
00:07:36.000We've talked about the outrage with this, and further complaints arose when they ran a blacklight over the smallpox blankets, so it doesn't end well.
00:07:44.000And they wanted, you know, we always talk about Native Americans, Aboriginal culture in Australia.
00:09:39.000And by the way, for those of you, sea otters, and people are like, oh, they hold hands, the male female sea otter, they hold hands when they sleep outside on BuzzFeed.
00:10:48.000And basically the article criticizes Trump supporters of being numb or turning off CNN's fake news.
00:10:55.000They basically admit themselves that they are fake news.
00:10:58.000Here's the thing with CNN, and we'll talk something else about, too, their collusion with Twitter, which I think is important based on one of the comments from their recent co-founders.
00:11:16.000Seriously, look at the app or the site any time of day.
00:11:19.000any week just chomp chomp chomp chomp chomp chomp well there's a study that just came out that showed the overwhelmingly negative coverage of Donald Trump Yeah.
00:11:27.000And as a matter of fact, they tried to...
00:11:28.000And the only one who covered Donald Trump positively was Fox News, though it depended on the issue.
00:11:34.000Isn't that what journalism is supposed to be?
00:11:36.000You just said Fox News is real journalism!
00:11:39.000What I do love about the Trump era is that we've talked about this on the show for so many years now, where MSNBC, everyone knew, but I was always saying CNN is just as bad.
00:11:47.000The Anderson Cooper is the Don Lemons, that fat gay bald guy who always appears on there.
00:11:57.000You see Jake Tapper, who everyone really loved and respected, he even tried to corner Marco Rubio, getting him to speculate on Jake Tapper's speculation.
00:12:10.000And in one of their articles, they say this in the Trump Fatigue article, I thought it was hilarious.
00:12:14.000They say, you know, or the final option, what you should do is shut off your TV, turn off your computer, take the Twitter app off your phone, and stop reading anything that starts with Donald Trump said.
00:12:24.000But as soon as you're reading the article...
00:13:40.000He is wrong because he didn't get precisely the result he wanted in an election.
00:13:46.000I was wrong about free speech because my broad didn't win.
00:13:51.000Think about how scary that is for a second.
00:13:53.000They're willing to completely do a 180 on something that should be one of the most fundamental values in your life.
00:14:00.000The First Amendment is a great divider.
00:14:01.000Before we even get to the Second Amendment, where do you line up on free speech?
00:14:04.000Now, Twitter is a business, has the right to do whatever they want, but he was saying the business model was an open platform and is now saying that's a bad thing because of President Trump.
00:14:14.000Maybe this is why their Twitter stock is plummeting.
00:14:38.000I just, this just goes to show, they lump everyone in too, by the way.
00:14:42.000There are so many Americans out there who pulled, you know, kind of held their nose, pulled the lever for Donald Trump, or so many Americans who were tired with Barack Obama, a lot of black Americans, if you look at the statistics, who voted for Donald Trump, even union workers across the Rust Belt.
00:14:54.000And people like this on Twitter, they throw that entire voting base...
00:14:59.000In with Nazis and Pepe the Frog as though, you know what?
00:17:02.000You can go just run a search, if you're watching on YouTube, Crowder, top five movies, and it'll have top five movies that you could not have made.
00:17:11.000All the way up to, you know, sudden impact could not be made today.
00:17:15.000I mean, if the left, today's Hollywood left, and they were always out of touch, but if today's Hollywood left had gotten their grubby paws on the series, you would have had a very different Mr.
00:17:41.000Is this the Eden transition or just pansexual curious?
00:17:48.000To tell you the truth, given today's gender spectrum, I find it hard to tell myself.
00:17:53.000But given that any assault on me would count as an extra hate crime with an additional ten years punishable in prison, just on account of Verrouge, you have to ask yourself one question.
00:21:36.000Just like a week ago, even, someone recognized me, and this is the interview they brought up and said, I really liked that interview with this guy.
00:22:12.000I got a couple of people, and it was 50-50, a couple of people from the right just extremely upset with me just because of the nature of my existence and my views, and I don't think they could transcend the fact that my profile is that of an extremely out-of-touch Hollywood person.
00:22:35.000And then I also got some stuff from the left being like, hey, you can't go on Crowder and normalize these types of opinions by being friendly to them.
00:22:44.000And that's not okay, which I totally disagree with.
00:22:52.000But overall, the thing that I really got was like, Hey, man, don't agree with you at all, but really appreciate you coming and having a civil conversation.
00:23:04.000And I'd like to see what you're up to.
00:23:06.000And in particular, you know, next time you sort of start one of your charity campaigns, as long as it's like a pretty, you know, bipartisan cause, I'm in.
00:23:25.000So, that obviously is indicative of a great performance, but I can't tell people like, screw you, I hate you, you made me watch Creep, and I can't...
00:23:31.000Because everyone has a friend like that.
00:23:33.000I remember my friend, let's call him Adam, because he was named And it was like, oh, you wish he gets a friend, just not you.
00:24:05.000I guess that I wasn't paying close enough attention on the shifts he was going through as a person.
00:24:11.000And my feeling was just like, oh, this guy has had a really hard time in life and is now much less confident in his theories and is much more open as to what's going to work.
00:25:18.000You know, here's one thing I find interesting that you say that from the left, because I've gotten that a lot where they're like, you can't normalize his views.
00:25:27.000that are ones that shouldn't be normalized.
00:25:29.000For example, yeah, I understand you probably shouldn't go on a neo-Nazi show who actually believes in murdering people who aren't white or something like that.
00:25:37.000But I've never had a leftist actually capable to point to my views, which are so extreme that that couldn't be normalized.
00:25:43.000Did they give you any specifics or just don't do it?
00:25:47.000And just in all fairness, both of those extremist opinions I got felt like, quite honestly, people who were just knee-jerk reactioning and maybe even trying to get me to respond to them on Twitter.
00:25:58.000Some people kind of poke me on purpose just so they're like, hey, Mark Duplass wrote to me.
00:26:02.000So I didn't get the sense that that was an extremely well-vetted and thought-out opinion.
00:26:07.000I think it's just, quite honestly, what you represent to the left.
00:26:11.000If someone is an extremist leftist and they look at You know, your feed on Twitter or something like that.
00:26:16.000They're just going to pick up on those little nuggets that are catchy things to get people to watch a show, and they're going to think that that encapsulates you, and you're thusly defined, and they don't want to deal with you.
00:26:25.000And, you know, I mean, I get that from the right a little bit, but it's not the fault.
00:26:30.000Well, that's what I find interesting, because I don't, if I go on a leftist show, the criticism I get from the right is never, you shouldn't do that show.
00:26:41.000You should have called him out on this, that, or the other thing.
00:26:44.000Whereas I have heard from most liberal guests who come on the show, and this is the problem that I think we see that I would say is kind of exclusive to the left, and that is you shouldn't have this conversation at all.
00:26:56.000Because that's never the criticism I get for having you on the show or going on Ruben's show or something like that.
00:27:02.000I feel that's a very different reaction.
00:27:07.000To be more clear, the point is not so much that I came at all.
00:27:12.000It's that you let him express all these views and you didn't word him up as a true representative of the left.
00:27:18.000It is somewhat similar to what you're talking about.
00:27:21.000It is like, how could you just accept that and listen and validate that when, for me, as a person who's been to therapy and is in a marriage, validation is everything.
00:27:30.000That's how I get by in all of my relationships.
00:27:32.000I look at so many political arguments right now and I'm just like, Anyway, it's been very interesting as I've gone through this process as an extremely uneducated person in politics in general.
00:27:44.000Like, I'm just leaning into this as a hobby.
00:27:46.000And I'm on a fact-finding mission as opposed to a, like, let me show you what's up and how to do it.
00:27:53.000And over the last, like, two months or so, I've learned, like...
00:27:57.000Kind of incredible things that have been, I don't know, like I've found a lot of my own personal blind spots on some stuff, so it's been good.
00:28:05.000Do you have anything specific that you would say was like a blind spot?
00:28:07.000I mean, not to put you on the spot at all.
00:28:09.000Like, in terms of specific blind spots, like one great one that I got, mostly from Twitter, from people on the right, was like, why don't people on the left support veterans?
00:29:01.000So that was a really great blind spot that was called on me, and I was like, you're right.
00:29:04.000So now I'm like, let me try and find a really good veteran bipartisan cause that I can run a charitable campaign on.
00:29:11.000Likewise, as I was talking— Well, I would say this, too, actually, as far as a blind spot on the right.
00:29:15.000I think—and we've seen it with people who—we see it all the time.
00:29:18.000There's constant corruption with veteran charities in the right because the right is so quick to give money to veterans' causes.
00:29:24.000And a lot of the time, people take advantage of that.
00:29:26.000And so this idea, if you go, well, wait, hold on a second.
00:29:29.000I support the veterans or even I support the war, but I don't support this specific organization.
00:29:34.000People will jump on you from the right.
00:29:36.000And that's an area where we've gotten flack for.
00:29:38.000We've even gotten flack as huge Second Amendment people, for example, talking about certain gun organizations going, hold on a second, these maybe aren't the organizations you want to support, and they take that as an attack on the idea.
00:29:53.000And then, you know, I kind of I got into a lot of like America first type discussions because, you know, we talked about this a little bit last time, like my kind of personal feeling of just like, you know, it's not just your neighbor.
00:30:32.000People on the right generally want to know that we're giving fishing poles, we're not giving fish.
00:30:38.000If we're giving charity, we want it to be a sustainable system that's not going to create dependence on us.
00:30:42.000And it's like, okay, so these clean water charities are a perfect thing.
00:30:46.000You go in, you install a clean water system, you walk away, it's there, it's great.
00:30:50.000So I ran something, I ran a campaign on that, we raised like $10,000, and I got a ton of support from the right on that, which was really great.
00:30:59.000So that was like a big thing, was just like, okay, if you're not super defensive about your blind spots, stuff can work out pretty well.
00:31:06.000Do you feel as though, now I would argue from a factual standpoint, there's a book called Who Really Cares by David Brooks?
00:31:14.000I think by David Brooks, and it talks about people who give, and conservative Christians actually just tend to be the most charitable, and this is not a conservative Christian.
00:32:12.000And some version of either trickle-down economics because I have more money, I'll put it into the economy, it'll feed everything, or because I have more money and you didn't tax me, I am now free to give more.
00:33:10.000Whereas Cenk Weger, when I used terms like the left, came out and said, I'm glad he had those two extra years so he could die alone, humiliated and destitute.
00:33:17.000And the spirit of that is just so much meaner.
00:33:21.000And I feel as though that's more accepted on the mainstream left.
00:33:24.000Just the spirit of idiot, you dumbass, you don't care.
00:33:35.000Getting a general vibe based on our whole conversation here and the tone of how this is going that like What I feel for you in a very respectful way and a very gentle way is you're ready to engage in a debate with me on how the left is actually behaving in bad ways and you're ready to stand on some positions that are saying left behaving worse than people on the right a couple of times and you know what you may very well be right and my position is I'm actually not
00:34:05.000in a position from a state of being as educated you are politically about all these things, or do I have the interest actually in engaging in it?
00:34:16.000Because what's happening to me lately, and look, you can disagree with this or not, what's happening to me lately, where I'm finding my place is of interest to me and that people are responding to, is just as simple as I can possibly say, is in ferreting out Similarities and not differences.
00:34:37.000And this has been the most exciting thing to me.
00:34:40.000And I bring it up in reference to, you know, the Glenn Beck situation where I was just like, dude, if he and I want to go at it, I mean, we can go at it all day long, respectfully or telling or whatever it is.
00:34:51.000What I found really fascinating and what I'm trying to dial in right now is this kind of new form of debate.
00:34:57.000And Glenn and I are setting up a couple of speaking engagements to this tune, which is basically saying like, okay, It's very easy for us to get into a room and talk about why we think one side is behaving worse than the other, why one side is maybe more right than the other.
00:35:10.000What if we got to a place where we said, okay, what if we try to cobble together some ideas and try and build upon what we know from each side of an argument upon a system that doesn't work on either side?
00:35:32.000Well, I don't have the answers, and you don't have the answers.
00:35:36.000Maybe we could try and build something together, and try and build on some ideas.
00:35:41.000This is the thing that I have discovered through this process that is the most interesting to me, and I don't know how that resonates with you, and that's kind of what I was...
00:35:49.000No, I agree with that, and I'm not looking for...
00:35:51.000I was asking because of kind of the reaction that you mentioned coming off of the last show, and the reaction...
00:36:07.000I am willing to write off the percentage of extremists on the left who come at me and say any of those things you're talking about, being a little more vitriolic than they should, a little more reactionary, ready to just call anyone a racist, xenophobe, homophobic person when they say one thing wrong, or, to your point, make tasteless jokes about Roger Ailes' death.
00:36:26.000Likewise, I am willing to write off someone on the right who comes at me and discredits...
00:36:31.000Anything I say or do because I want to support Planned Parenthood and just saying, you're a f***ing baby killer, go to hell and die.
00:36:39.000I'm not really going to be able to engage in that.
00:37:10.000And they actually don't provide the majority of women's health care in the country.
00:37:13.000So I would say an answer, for example, this would be an answer coming from the right, respectfully.
00:37:19.000In other words, I'm starting off saying, okay, it's not neither one of us have the answers.
00:37:22.000I think I have an answer, and you can tell me if you think it's wrong.
00:37:24.000Conservatives do not have a problem with giving funding to other crisis pregnancy centers or pregnancy resource centers that don't perform abortions.
00:37:33.000And there are more than enough of those.
00:37:35.000Would that not be something that people could find?
00:37:37.000I mean, common ground if, again, we're not even talking about removing the public funding at this point.
00:37:41.000Just let's just put it into places where they don't actually perform the abortion services.
00:37:48.000Yeah, I mean, look, it's a very rational argument, you know?
00:37:52.000None of those organizations, to my knowledge, are as big and have as much reach as Planned Parenthood does.
00:37:58.000You know, when you're dealing with, like, three to four percent of the services of Planned Parenthood actually go towards abortion, I would say that, like, those other services are worthwhile and they aren't worth defunding.
00:38:07.000But I understand one-issue voting, you know?
00:38:12.000I'm the last person who's going to come up and say, like, If you are truly a pro-life person, it's really hard for me to stand and say, like, you should absolutely vote for the support of Planned Parenthood.
00:38:24.000I get why you don't, and I'm okay with that.
00:38:36.000No one doesn't know about birth control in 2017.
00:38:38.000As a matter of fact, in the years she's done it, it's never happened once.
00:38:42.000that someone didn't know, they knew, they decided not to use it for whatever reason.
00:38:46.000Often a man is pressuring a woman into an abortion.
00:38:48.000They'll come to this clinic, and they've talked about how easy it is to get women to have the child or to give it up for adoption, just as easy as it would be to veer them toward abortion.
00:38:57.000They come in, and they're looking for a decision to make.
00:39:00.000And at these crisis pregnancy centers, legally they are not allowed to tell someone, this is what you do.
00:39:05.000As a matter of fact, all they do is provide resources and facts.
00:39:07.000If a woman has an ultrasound, nine times out of ten, she doesn't get the abortion anymore.
00:39:11.000If she knows that there's a beating heart at, I think, six weeks, they inform them with these kind of, they give them this kind of information.
00:39:20.000But the issue with Planned Parenthood, for example, this is where, not to fact check anyone, but this idea that 3-4% are only abortions, it's not true.
00:39:28.000And the reason for that, this is again where I would say conservatives are saying, hey, we can find common ground by giving it to other organizations.
00:39:35.000You know, if you go in for an abortion to Planned Parenthood, Abby Johnson wrote a great book on this.
00:39:48.000If all of these are done to perform an abortion, that could be counted as five or seven services, even though every single one of those services was an auxiliary service to the abortion.
00:39:57.000Even though it's an abortion, that would count as one out of seven services.
00:40:00.000And so they do trick the numbers because the vast majority of their actual money comes from abortions, and that's why we have a problem with it.
00:40:26.000I feel like we are more entering the realm of it.
00:40:29.000I don't mean to do that in a second because that is something where it's just like I think it needs to be okay.
00:40:33.000And when you say not to fact check and you fact check me, that's fact checking.
00:40:36.000Well, I think it's helping to educate because that's why people might be so defensive on the right because, for example, they hear a talking point so often and when we know it not to be true – And I don't think that you know it not to.
00:40:48.000I don't think you're an ignorant person.
00:40:50.000I don't think you're an uneducated person.
00:40:51.000I just think it's something they throw out so often that if you don't do more than a glance, it's easy to accept it.
00:40:57.000And I think that that's more important than just saying, hey, let's meet in the middle, is if someone says, well, hold on a second, what if that is incorrect?
00:41:04.000And then meeting together on, you know, agreeing on the actual information.
00:41:10.000Listen, I hear you, and I think it's totally fine for you and I to have different agendas in terms of what we're about.
00:41:18.000Because from my personal perspective, there's...
00:41:24.000When I feel the response from people in terms of what is effective right now, like what you felt last time was like you felt probably zero resistance from me coming in and trying to listen and try and like hear some things of you.
00:41:38.000And I think that that was really eye opening to your audience that like anyone from the left could do that.
00:41:43.000Because quite frankly, I think that we are so dug in right now.
00:41:47.000We are so extremely vitriolic that anytime that there's an open and listening energy, it's just extremely powerful.
00:42:23.000What he does is, for those who haven't seen it, is he befriends members of the Ku Klux Klan.
00:42:30.000And he doesn't sit with them and tell them in respectful, intelligent debate and with data why they should not be a part of the Ku Klux Klan.
00:42:40.000And he doesn't even use his knowledge to convince them, which I think pretty much everybody can get on board with, It's bad.
00:42:57.000He sits with them, he has drinks with them, he listens to them, he doesn't challenge them, and he befriends them.
00:43:05.000And now he has a closet full of Ku Klux Klan memorabilia and Ku Klux Klan robes from these members of the Ku Klux Klan whom he has befriended and who has never once tried to out-debate, never once tried to prove that they were wrong, even gently, and They have left by sheer example.
00:43:24.000And that is like, in my opinion, that's some Jesus-level sh** right there.
00:43:30.000And I'm never going to be that person, and I don't know how to be that person, because quite frankly, I'm lucky I don't have to face that kind of persecution.
00:43:36.000But that has been such a strong example to me of what a powerful version, in my opinion, and what I'm looking for is in debate.
00:43:46.000because I have a lot of friends on the left that I have a lot of conversations with. - Sure. - And a lot of them are just like, dude, what are you doing?
00:43:56.000You're not trying to pull people over.
00:43:58.000And I'm like, I'm not going on Crowder to tell him that he's wrong and to pull him over.
00:44:03.000I'm going on Crowder to open my mind, to listen to him, to hear what he had to say about Planned Parenthood.
00:44:09.000Let's try and soak some of that in, see if I can get educated, see if I can find another blind spot of my own so I can grow as a person, and quite possibly more importantly, to show some of his fan base that yes, there are people on the left who are willing to listen, and by But I think it'd be okay if you challenged me on something.
00:44:59.000No, not dig in, but like you told me about the veteran thing.
00:45:03.000I think that's right on the right side.
00:45:05.000Where, like I said, people are exploited on the right, on the flip side, with raw...
00:45:10.000I mean, listen, I've worked at Fox News for years, right?
00:45:12.000They put an American flag behind something, and sometimes it is really easy to fool people into some sense of patriotism where you and I would agree.
00:45:19.000And I actually, I'm fine with being challenged on those things, as long as it's in a respectful, civil way.
00:45:26.000And my point is, if ever you think I'm wrong, or your friends think I'm wrong...
00:46:39.000I haven't seen the movie in a long time.
00:46:41.000It's Dustin Hoffman doing Lenny Bruce, so we're thrice removed.
00:46:45.000So I am very, very reserved when it comes to taking words off the table, especially as a comedian because I saw people, I mean a comedian of mine, a friend of mine named Mike in Montreal, left-wing, vegan, and we actually would do colleges together, and he had a bit where he used the word tranny.
00:47:05.000And never at any point was it considered hateful.
00:47:08.000So this kind of removing people's words until we're standing on this little plot of land, I do make that, that I think it's more of a moral stand to say, no, we're not going to concede that, then concede each word that might be offensive.
00:47:22.000Is there any credence to the argument, and I actually like...
00:47:25.000I don't feel the need to strongly make this argument, but I know a lot of people would make the argument.
00:47:30.000There was a time when the word nigger was totally comfortable to be used, and then we learned that this was a civil rights movement.
00:47:37.000These were people that needed to be validated, and they didn't need to be labeled as such with a derogatory word, so we came up with new words, and then They became an equally respected part of society, and that worked out.
00:47:50.000There are a lot of people in the trans movement who would say, listen, this is a group that has been persecuted and been made fun of and joked about.
00:47:56.000They're not really a titan of industry that needs to be jabbed and joked at and taken down.
00:48:02.000They're a group that's having a hard time and could be lifted up and might be not a bad thing to be respectful and give them the terminology that they prefer, even if that has changed over the last couple of years.
00:48:13.000Well, when they come on the show, we just use neutral anything.
00:48:17.000Because the truth is, I'm liable to screw up.
00:48:19.000When I have a guy with mascara on and lipstick who looks like a guy with a 5 o'clock shadow, I'm much more likely to say he.
00:48:24.000Now, we've had Blair White in the show who looks very much like a woman.
00:48:37.000We're not all in on this verbal contract, and it's really easy to screw up, so I'm just not going to give the leeway, and if someone says, hey, don't call me a tranny, that's fine.
00:48:46.000Were you aware that tranny was disrespectful to some people?
00:48:49.000I'm aware that it's offensive, yeah, even when we played spot the tranny, and we played it with a tranny.
00:48:54.000I am, but I think the comparison to the N-word, I think it's invalid for a couple of reasons, and I would say invalid for mainly reasons that stem from the left, sort of kneecapping their own arguments, because of this idea of gender fluidity.
00:49:07.000Well, if there's gender fluidity, then it's kind of, you know, like the whole, I was born this way, well...
00:49:12.000You're saying that someone can't be born into a male brain, or they're born into a female brain.
00:49:17.000It's actually gender fluid that people can choose not only sexuality, but their gender on a day-to-day basis, and there are 52 different genders that can't be recognized biologically.
00:49:25.000What do you mean by choosing sexuality?
00:49:27.000Well, this is pansexual, that you can flip your sexuality day to day.
00:49:32.000I mean, Huffwood has had a recent article about it, and you can also flip your gender day to day.
00:49:36.000And I think that comes with a litany of questions.
00:49:38.000Well, can I change my gender enough to apply for a woman's scholarship grant and then switch back?
00:49:44.000I mean, these are questions, and I think that it's an important...
00:49:48.000There is certainly room for that system in that, like, you can't criticize me because I am a minority of some sort.
00:50:03.000Well, we did an experiment with that where Nakajir and I went to a mall where he just, as a gay guy, said the exact same thing that I said as a straight guy.
00:50:09.000They called the cops on me and they thought he was adorable.
00:50:13.000For example, he just walked up and he said, Can I just say your tits are to die for?
00:50:28.000I don't think it's a valid comparison because you can't choose race.
00:50:33.000I think that's a word that was designed specifically, if you look at the history of the N-word, designed specifically to demean and make someone subhuman.
00:50:39.000Tranny was a colloquialism that they coined themselves, and they've now decided to change as a political...
00:51:01.000Well, you know, I would say that, you know, not a big one, but, like, if you're looking for accessibility, I don't know even that you are, but if you're looking at accessibility on that joke, you're looking for everybody to lean in on it, when a Twitter headline doesn't say tranny in it, you'll get probably further in terms of people being able to laugh at it, you know?
00:51:18.000Yeah, most of our Twitter stories with trannies will actually include trannies that are on the show who call themselves that.
00:51:48.000And listen, always, if ever you think even I'm wrong, or you just want to talk or ask a question, we really want to be, to all of it.
00:51:54.000If it's just listening and having a conversation, great.
00:51:56.000And if it's calling me out, or I also want that all of it is welcome here.
00:52:00.000What I would be interested in, if you are, and we could try this some other time, is like, Finding a system, even if you think you have really good ideas, but that you're not 100% sure you have the right answer on, and that could be something as simple as healthcare because it's so complex, or welfare, whatever it is, and then maybe you and I could pick a subject and see if we could go in on it together and teach each other some things, what we like, what we don't, and see if something could be built.
00:54:35.000Actually, I think I will do with Mark Duplass.
00:54:38.000Him and I will pick a few topics where we can actually go over, talk about them, but also have some points and counterpoints in a respectful arena.
00:54:44.000Maybe do it live in person for a charity that we both agree on.
00:54:49.000So if you want to see that, tweet him at Mark Duplass, me at S. Crowder, maybe not at Not Gay Jared can moderate or whoever Mark Duplass wants.
00:55:15.000We are going to do a one-hour special with Jordan Peterson on Wednesday, and then on Thursday we're going to have Tommy Loren live in studio, which is her first kind of live in studio full interview since some of the controversies.
00:55:27.000So she'll be right here in this chair.
00:55:58.000A handful more shows and a whole bunch coming down the pipeline.
00:56:02.000A lot of people, especially since YouTube has been doing what they're doing, there are a lot of people who are going to be linking up arms here.
00:56:07.000And, of course, you also get Morning Grinders.