Louder with Crowder - June 21, 2017


#187 'PEOPLE ARE NOT BASICALLY GOOD!' (Dennis Prager Uncut) | Louder With Crowder


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Dennis Prager, host of the show "The View From The Top," joins us to discuss the death of hobbies and the rise of a new one: stamps. Dennis talks about his love of stamps, and why he thinks they should be legalized.

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00:00:00.000 I'm a strange animal, that's what I know You're a strange animal, I got to follow
00:00:25.000 I'm a strange animal, I got to follow We can't do a long intro.
00:00:36.000 This is a special show.
00:00:38.000 We have to sit down and pre-record because of Pacific Time, Eastern Time, Central, all the time zones.
00:00:43.000 All the times.
00:00:43.000 They all matter equally.
00:00:44.000 We're going to New York City because we're among the few invited to this private YouTube conference.
00:00:49.000 I'm hoping we get our Illuminati membership cards.
00:00:52.000 So, when we do this, we always want to sit down and have a long talk.
00:00:55.000 This is by far our most requested of anyone who've had this.
00:00:57.000 If you could do a longer chat.
00:00:59.000 This man has his show, of course.
00:01:01.000 You hear him on Salem Radio every day.
00:01:03.000 You can follow him on Twitter, at Dennis Prager, DennisPrager.com, Prager University, which we post about all the time.
00:01:10.000 What?
00:01:10.000 I was going to say, I think it's because he has a voice.
00:01:12.000 He can talk about anything, and you'd find it immediately interesting.
00:01:15.000 Like Sam Elliott.
00:01:16.000 Yes, exactly.
00:01:18.000 Mr.
00:01:18.000 Prager, thank you for being here, sir.
00:01:20.000 Well, I was thinking of reading the phone book to you and testing that thesis, but they don't make phone books anymore.
00:01:28.000 Now, did you develop this through years of cigars and bourbon, or did you just come out of the womb talking like this as Mr.
00:01:34.000 Prager?
00:01:35.000 Well, I have a few answers to that.
00:01:37.000 You'll love this.
00:01:38.000 Okay.
00:01:39.000 So, I did not speak till I was three, and my grandfather, may he rest in peace, thought I was retarded.
00:01:48.000 So, and my line is, so people say, why didn't you start speaking so late?
00:01:54.000 I said, because I wasn't getting paid.
00:01:57.000 I couldn't charge.
00:01:59.000 I started speaking when I could charge.
00:02:02.000 So even little three-year-old Dennis Prager was like the joker.
00:02:05.000 If you're good for something, never do it for free.
00:02:07.000 Capitalist from day one.
00:02:08.000 Yes.
00:02:09.000 Well, yeah.
00:02:11.000 Now that you mention that I was a capitalist at day one, I used to sell to my classmates stamps.
00:02:20.000 Really?
00:02:21.000 Yeah, foreign stamps.
00:02:23.000 I would put them in beautiful glassine envelopes.
00:02:25.000 I would put a little white sticker on it explaining what it was.
00:02:30.000 I don't love money as it happens.
00:02:34.000 I'm not money crazed at all.
00:02:35.000 Right.
00:02:36.000 But I loved making it.
00:02:38.000 I loved creating something that others wanted.
00:02:40.000 Sure.
00:02:41.000 You know, it's interesting that you say that stamps.
00:02:43.000 I don't know that there was a...
00:02:43.000 Was there a big market in your class for stamps?
00:02:46.000 Yeah.
00:02:46.000 Yes.
00:02:47.000 You know what?
00:02:48.000 It's very sad to me.
00:02:50.000 You want to do a show on this.
00:02:51.000 Okay.
00:02:52.000 The death of hobbies.
00:02:55.000 Well, there's the new hobby now, the hand thing.
00:02:57.000 I'm old enough to see that having happened.
00:02:59.000 Yeah.
00:02:59.000 Well, when I was young, it was pogs.
00:03:02.000 Pogs, yeah.
00:03:03.000 I don't know if you remember this.
00:03:04.000 Remember the old milk caps they used to have underneath milk, and every now and then they would have pictures?
00:03:08.000 So with my generation, they took that and they turned it into a game where you would stack up the pogs, and you'd hit it with what was called a slammer.
00:03:15.000 It was like plastic sometimes.
00:03:16.000 It was heavier than the pogs themselves, and as many as you turned over, you would get to keep.
00:03:21.000 And I remember at our Christmas recital as a kid, I went to my friend Johnny Prescott.
00:03:26.000 I forgot to bring my Pogs.
00:03:27.000 I said, listen, give me five Pogs and a slammer. 1.00
00:03:30.000 You will get half of everything that I procure this evening.
00:03:33.000 I came back with 50 Pogs. 0.87
00:03:35.000 I hustled at Pogs in the schoolyard.
00:03:38.000 So then they were banned the next week.
00:03:39.000 So that goes to your point.
00:03:40.000 Any hobby that's fun, the school's banned.
00:03:43.000 So is that a legit hobby?
00:03:46.000 Or is that fun?
00:03:49.000 But, you know, when I think of hobbies, so stamp collecting, coin collecting, for example, collect.
00:03:55.000 Well, that was a collection.
00:03:57.000 That's true.
00:03:58.000 But it's not one you would want to keep, I don't think.
00:04:01.000 Whereas, you know, stamps and coins have a permanent interest.
00:04:05.000 That's probably true.
00:04:06.000 I learned an immense amount as a child about the world through stamp collecting.
00:04:10.000 I mean, did you ever hear of Lichtenstein?
00:04:13.000 Unless you collect stamps, nobody ever heard of Lichtenstein.
00:04:16.000 I'm not going to lie.
00:04:17.000 I haven't.
00:04:18.000 Exactly.
00:04:19.000 No, no, that's my whole point.
00:04:20.000 I didn't either.
00:04:21.000 But another one of my hobbies is collecting countries.
00:04:25.000 I've been to 130 countries.
00:04:27.000 Wow.
00:04:27.000 That's a lot of travel.
00:04:28.000 That is.
00:04:28.000 So I remember when I went to Lichtenstein, holy crow, I know about this place.
00:04:34.000 I have their stamps.
00:04:35.000 Anyway, so I'm just thinking, baseball cards, did your generation collect any cards?
00:04:42.000 Well, people did.
00:04:43.000 I wasn't as much into sports.
00:04:44.000 I did.
00:04:44.000 I collected a lot of baseball cards.
00:04:45.000 We collected superhero cards and hockey cards in Canada, but it was past the point where they really accrued in value, not like your generation, where some of those are worth a lot.
00:04:54.000 Alright, so you're talking to a fellow hockey fan, even though I'm American.
00:04:58.000 Really?
00:04:59.000 Did you know that this was the first Stanley Cup playoff championship, but both coaches were American?
00:05:06.000 I didn't know that.
00:05:08.000 That is actually, that is remarkable.
00:05:09.000 Because, you know, my dad played at...
00:05:11.000 It is remarkable.
00:05:12.000 Both American.
00:05:13.000 Gosh, when you look back when my dad played at U of M... And they basically only drafted Canadian players and American players kind of had to go through this sort of training camp that wasn't even considered because all the best players came from Canada.
00:05:24.000 It's changed so much.
00:05:26.000 I mean, you just look at Dallas.
00:05:27.000 Dallas is a hotbed for hockey now.
00:05:29.000 My dad...
00:05:30.000 Well, look at the biggest hotbed, Nashville.
00:05:32.000 That's true.
00:05:32.000 Nashville, Tennessee!
00:05:33.000 I know!
00:05:35.000 I know, Nashville, Tennessee, but I will say this.
00:05:37.000 It's interesting that you bring that up, and it transitions into what I wanted to talk about with you.
00:05:41.000 Hobbies, you know, I don't know if you would consider not just collecting, but, you know, for example, like martial arts or like jogging, if you consider these hobbies or activities.
00:05:53.000 But there is a big push right now.
00:05:55.000 You see that with the rise of CrossFit and, of course, the rise of injuries.
00:05:58.000 So orthopedics are thrilled.
00:06:00.000 The third place, which we all used to have, right?
00:06:03.000 We talked about that home church.
00:06:05.000 There was the third place.
00:06:06.000 And places in the UK, it's the pub.
00:06:08.000 And that's a big market now that people are trying to fill.
00:06:12.000 I wonder if a big part of that is, like you said, a lack of hobbies.
00:06:15.000 Because people tend to congregate around their hobbies and create their own third place.
00:06:20.000 That'd be interesting.
00:06:21.000 I wonder if that would play a role.
00:06:23.000 I don't know enough about it.
00:06:24.000 But all I could say is...
00:06:26.000 I lament the lack of hobbies because they played such a great role in bringing me joy as a kid.
00:06:35.000 And the beauty was you were self-entertaining.
00:06:38.000 That's true.
00:06:39.000 See, a hobby...
00:06:41.000 See, you can't say...
00:06:42.000 I don't think you could say watching TV. You can't say that's a hobby because you're doing nothing.
00:06:48.000 Right.
00:06:48.000 You have to do something for it to be a hobby.
00:06:51.000 Right.
00:06:51.000 Well, depends on what people are watching on the internet these days.
00:06:54.000 And that is a destructive hobby, as we would call it, with these young teenagers.
00:06:58.000 Let me ask you this.
00:06:59.000 Because you discussed this, and it goes to the wider social issues.
00:07:02.000 So, you know, you've been obviously on AM radio for a long time.
00:07:05.000 And then there have been people who've come and gone, largely been political, who've had sometimes bigger ratings and sometimes less ratings than you.
00:07:11.000 But you've always approached it from more of a cultural point of view.
00:07:15.000 At least that's how I've seen it.
00:07:16.000 And that's kind of the uprising that you're seeing right now online.
00:07:21.000 You're seeing that on YouTube.
00:07:22.000 You're seeing that on social media.
00:07:23.000 If you look at the new conservatives, they're not interested in micro-policy, but there is this wave of preserving the idea of westernized culture.
00:07:34.000 I say this without a hint of meaning to be insulting at all, but as someone who is older compared to these kids, you know, white guy who they once championed as the enemy of everything, evil, older, white guy patriarchy, you've kind of become the cool kid because now people are wanting to see the world through the lens with which you've always presented it.
00:07:55.000 Have you seen that change in the last two years?
00:07:58.000 Yeah, it's a...
00:08:01.000 When you are beating a drum for 40 years, and then people say, oh, I now hear it.
00:08:12.000 The first thing you do is you thank God that you're still able to beat the drum.
00:08:18.000 I don't mean physically, that I still have this job and I have such access to people.
00:08:26.000 Yeah.
00:08:26.000 And more than ever, because of Prager University, it's got 400 million views this year.
00:08:31.000 That's a lot of views.
00:08:34.000 But yes, there is a realization that there's a fundamental problem, and that is an assault on Western civilization.
00:08:44.000 And I have, you're right, I've been talking about that my whole life.
00:08:47.000 When the University of Pennsylvania, Ivy League School, its Department of English took down last year It's poster of Shakespeare.
00:08:58.000 Because he was a white English male.
00:09:03.000 White European male.
00:09:05.000 You realize it's over because the whole Western civilization idea is based on what is excellent, not what is your race. 0.99
00:09:05.000 Right. 0.99
00:09:17.000 Sure.
00:09:18.000 And we just talked about that yesterday with them demanding in the music festivals.
00:09:21.000 They're demanding less white males. 0.87
00:09:24.000 Well, here's the thing.
00:09:24.000 There were periods where that was the case at music festivals, periods like the Joni Mitchell, Stevie Nicks.
00:09:29.000 It just isn't right now.
00:09:31.000 If you look at these big music festivals, they don't really want it.
00:09:34.000 They want to virtue signal and claim they want it.
00:09:36.000 But I do think that you are a particular messenger.
00:09:39.000 Now, I'm not throwing anyone under the bus here, so please, everyone out there, hold your emails.
00:09:42.000 But for example, when I listened to you when I was much younger, you would run opposite the channel.
00:09:47.000 We had two channels, and it was you or Rush is who I had to decide to listen to as a young teenager.
00:09:55.000 Brilliant radio host.
00:09:56.000 I'm not taking anything away from him, but as a younger person, it was far more interesting to me to listen to the male-female hour, the happiness hour, discussing culture at large than a senator who, for example, got caught being bought off with a corrupt bill.
00:10:09.000 That's not the kind of voice that appeals to young people who still believe in the same values that you and I do.
00:10:15.000 Someone like you is able to communicate, and it's just...
00:10:18.000 I don't think you can fake that authenticity.
00:10:20.000 So I wonder now, do you have a bunch of...
00:10:23.000 Just young whippersnappers coming up and wanting to take pictures. 0.74
00:10:26.000 I mean, you're a rock star on YouTube.
00:10:29.000 I have found a fascinating development, and that is when I talk about nonpolitical subjects, the average age of my caller is in their 20s and 30s.
00:10:44.000 When I talk about politics, it's in the 60s.
00:10:48.000 Wow.
00:10:49.000 That makes sense.
00:10:50.000 You know what?
00:10:50.000 And we have that almost exact kind of analytical data that we would have.
00:10:55.000 Although, when they tie together, for example, we'll be talking about John Oliver, as we did in Cole, it's more so taking on a cultural icon and falsehoods.
00:11:03.000 But right away, that's true.
00:11:04.000 And these people, they still want to see westernized society thrive, right?
00:11:08.000 They're still on board. 0.96
00:11:09.000 And I think a lot of conservatives have dismissed them as dumb because they're not involved in their local congressional races. 0.98
00:11:15.000 They want to talk about bigger issues. 0.98
00:11:18.000 Right.
00:11:20.000 I actually have more hope for this generation than I did for my own, the baby boomer.
00:11:26.000 Really?
00:11:27.000 Okay.
00:11:27.000 I've made that case, but explain it from your point of view.
00:11:30.000 Oh, very simple.
00:11:31.000 I knew my generation was lost.
00:11:33.000 I will never forget, I give you my word, people who know me a long time from radio, I never exaggerate, because I really wanted to develop a reputation for credibility.
00:11:48.000 In graduate school, I was at Columbia University in New York.
00:11:53.000 One day, I really remember this vividly, I remember walking around about 116th and Broadway, passing a bar or whatever it was, and thinking, oh my god, I am really alone.
00:12:10.000 I wasn't lonely, because I had friends, but I was alone in believing in America, that it was an essentially good place, in believing that communism was evil, in believing in the Judeo-Christian value system.
00:12:30.000 At Columbia University, I had one kindred spirit.
00:12:36.000 One.
00:12:38.000 And I saw kids taking over.
00:12:40.000 By the way, this notion, kids taking over the university, leftist kids, this is as old as me, man.
00:12:47.000 It was happening in the 70s when I was in graduate school.
00:12:51.000 There's nothing new.
00:12:53.000 Well, you know, it's funny.
00:12:54.000 We had someone, I think, when we were in Ireland recently talking with them.
00:12:56.000 They didn't believe me when I said Generation Z is one of the most conservative generations ever.
00:13:00.000 Yeah.
00:13:01.000 I've seen that they're mostly liberal.
00:13:02.000 I don't have the exact numbers in front of me.
00:13:05.000 But if you take, for example, the baby boomer generation, who've now become one of the more conservative generations, if you were to take them in their late teens or early 20s and 80 percent of them were liberal and now you were to take you were to take Generation Z and only 60 percent of them would be liberal.
00:13:22.000 It still means that a majority of young people are liberal, but not the overwhelming majority that existed with the baby boom generation.
00:13:29.000 And I try to present it that way.
00:13:31.000 And sometimes you can see the lights go on with people.
00:13:34.000 But I agree with you.
00:13:35.000 And I think the whole doom and gloom, which people present on a lot of talk radio, is not something you peddle in.
00:13:41.000 And I genuinely believe there's a silver lining with people younger than me, by the way, in...
00:13:45.000 It's a little younger than me.
00:13:47.000 You know, I'm going to turn 30 relatively soon.
00:13:49.000 I'd say it's probably 22 and younger.
00:13:51.000 They seem to be, really, it's that pendulum swinging back against the radicals on campus.
00:13:58.000 Right, and there is, and all of this is news to me, because I was pessimistic, I admit it.
00:14:04.000 But I'm not nearly as pessimistic now.
00:14:08.000 Partially, well, frankly, in big part because of Prager University, because I see the numbers, and they're mostly young.
00:14:14.000 And what they're saying is, including high school, is, hey, wait a minute.
00:14:18.000 We're just curious to hear another side.
00:14:21.000 And then they hear it.
00:14:23.000 Just take, you know, any example.
00:14:28.000 The number of people, and this is a political, economic thing, which you would think they're not interested in.
00:14:33.000 But when they, you know, everyone says minimum wage, minimum wage, minimum wage.
00:14:38.000 Well, it turns out that vast numbers of people get fired from their jobs and great numbers of restaurants close up.
00:14:46.000 They're no longer in business because of the compassionate minimum wage.
00:14:50.000 Maybe it's not so compassionate.
00:14:52.000 And a kid is prepared to say, that makes sense.
00:14:56.000 Yeah, I think that's right.
00:14:58.000 And it's also why it bothers me when people say compassionate conservatism.
00:15:01.000 This is a term that was coined.
00:15:02.000 Conservatism is already compassionate.
00:15:04.000 Compassion doesn't mean giving someone what they want when they want it.
00:15:07.000 It means truth.
00:15:08.000 And it's conceding too much territory.
00:15:11.000 Oh, no, I'm a conservative, but I'm a compassionate conservative.
00:15:14.000 Right, right.
00:15:15.000 That's right.
00:15:17.000 Well, speaking of which, so you're working on a film with Adam Carolla.
00:15:21.000 I want to make sure I get the title.
00:15:22.000 Do you have a title?
00:15:23.000 I know it's about safe spaces.
00:15:25.000 Yeah, no safe spaces.
00:15:25.000 No safe spaces.
00:15:26.000 And people should go to the website and see the trailer, and if they're so inclined, help us make it with a donation, because it's publicly funded, and Hollywood isn't going to make it, but...
00:15:39.000 Adam and I are going to go, and we're going to, with humor and with seriousness, expose what's happening on our college campuses in a way that will really awaken vast numbers of Americans, including young people.
00:15:54.000 And by the way, I just, and I'm not doing this to patronize you, the same exact issue was in Canada.
00:16:00.000 Sure.
00:16:00.000 I mean, there's no difference.
00:16:02.000 Oh, no.
00:16:03.000 It's actually, it's far worse in Canada than in the States.
00:16:05.000 It's right.
00:16:06.000 That's right.
00:16:06.000 Yeah, because there is no constitutional right to freedom of speech, which was just reaffirmed yesterday, which I'm happy about.
00:16:12.000 You know, it's funny that you mention this.
00:16:14.000 I was working behind the scenes, had already sold the script, the idea on a film very similar to this.
00:16:19.000 It was partially scripted, partially documentary, and we shot some test footage at a couple universities, and one was University of Michigan.
00:16:27.000 This is not a joke.
00:16:28.000 We sat down there with the head of Afro-centric lesbian studies and we sat down with an animal telepathist who was teaching students. 0.54
00:16:38.000 So we shot this scene where this woman claimed that she was communicating with a dead dog that we made up.
00:16:45.000 And everyone had to treat this as it was a legitimate worldview because she believed in this idea of reincarnation.
00:16:50.000 And when we looked through the test footage, this was years ago, they said, no one's going to believe this.
00:16:54.000 This is too far.
00:16:55.000 No one's going to...
00:16:56.000 This is too absurd to be in the realm of reality.
00:16:58.000 And it's why it never got off the ground.
00:16:59.000 But I think now everyone knows this is mainstream on campus.
00:17:03.000 That reminds me of one of Woody Allen's great lines in one of his movies that he was majoring in plant psychology.
00:17:13.000 Was this...
00:17:14.000 I'm trying to think of which one.
00:17:17.000 It wasn't Annie Hall.
00:17:18.000 Was it Manhattan?
00:17:20.000 It was probably Manhattan.
00:17:21.000 If it wasn't Annie Hall, it was probably Manhattan.
00:17:24.000 But it wasn't Sleeper.
00:17:25.000 Those are the three.
00:17:26.000 I know all his films, but those are the three I know best.
00:17:29.000 Sleeper is one of my favorite films ever.
00:17:31.000 How could it not be?
00:17:35.000 Don't start me.
00:17:36.000 Exactly.
00:17:37.000 It's one of my favorite films because it was the first Woody Allen film I was allowed to watch when I was young.
00:17:42.000 And my father was like, okay, you can watch this maybe around 11 years old.
00:17:47.000 And I just thought it was funny.
00:17:48.000 When I went back and watched it when I was older, it's fantastic.
00:17:50.000 And Woody Allen would probably hate The actual commentary that it is on society today because it would vindicate a much more conservative point of view.
00:17:58.000 He probably wouldn't like that, but it truly does.
00:17:59.000 Well, now you really started me on a very interesting thing.
00:18:03.000 Okay, go ahead.
00:18:05.000 I believe the most powerful film ever made on behalf of God-based ethics is Woody Allen's film Crimes and Misdemeanors.
00:18:16.000 If I told people this was made by evangelical Christians, they would have said, yeah, that makes sense. 1.00
00:18:24.000 Woody Allen wrote it, who was an atheist.
00:18:28.000 Right.
00:18:29.000 But he made the case in it for if there's no God, nothing's wrong.
00:18:34.000 Right.
00:18:35.000 So powerfully, no other film has ever approached it.
00:18:40.000 I consider it one of the ten most important films ever made, Crimes and Misdemeanors.
00:18:44.000 I wrote this.
00:18:45.000 Woody Allen wrote me a letter.
00:18:47.000 This is like 30 years ago.
00:18:49.000 And he said, well, I guess that's one way of looking at it, but I don't really think that's what I had in mind.
00:18:56.000 LAUGHTER But no, no, no.
00:18:59.000 Often, artists' art is greater than the artist.
00:19:04.000 Yeah, that is absolutely true.
00:19:06.000 And you do have to be able to separate sometimes the art from the artist.
00:19:09.000 Otherwise, you'd never see a Sean Penn film again.
00:19:12.000 Exactly.
00:19:13.000 That's exactly right.
00:19:15.000 Speaking of which, since we're talking about culture, what happened to him?
00:19:19.000 I remember the Sean Penn growing up who I said, that man deserves the award for I Am Sam, but this was at the stage in his career where he said award ceremonies were rigged, They were fake.
00:19:27.000 It was basically masturbatorial, congratulatory sessions.
00:19:31.000 And he never showed up.
00:19:32.000 Remember, for years, Sean Penn would never show up to an awards ceremony.
00:19:35.000 That's why he lost for I Am Sam.
00:19:36.000 And now he is Mr.
00:19:38.000 Awards Ceremony.
00:19:40.000 Has anyone else seen that?
00:19:41.000 Well, give credit to Woody Allen.
00:19:42.000 He doesn't go.
00:19:43.000 That's true.
00:19:44.000 That's true.
00:19:45.000 That's Woody Allen's view of the ceremonies.
00:19:48.000 Yeah.
00:19:49.000 Also, probably because he's wanted for crimes against humanity.
00:19:54.000 It's so unfortunate.
00:19:56.000 He knows you bump into people.
00:19:57.000 Yeah, I know.
00:19:58.000 Not worth it.
00:19:58.000 Okay, so speaking of which, another point that you make while we're talking about society, and a lot of young people are making this now, they're falling into this idea that, okay, they're understanding feminism for the fraud that it is.
00:20:09.000 You've made the point that feminism, ironically, isn't feminine. 1.00
00:20:14.000 Whatsoever, that it's actually anti-feminine.
00:20:17.000 And I always thought that was interesting.
00:20:19.000 So I want you, the master, to explain it to people watching.
00:20:21.000 Well, from the beginning, I said feminism is a misnomer. 1.00
00:20:25.000 It doesn't celebrate the feminine.
00:20:27.000 It celebrates the masculine.
00:20:30.000 It's true.
00:20:32.000 Men have sex with no emotion.
00:20:36.000 And can go from body to body and have a great time?
00:20:39.000 Well, so can we women, which was just a prescription for depression in a lot of young women.
00:20:45.000 That's why so many more are depressed in the college era or at the college age.
00:20:51.000 They have bought this nonsense.
00:20:53.000 Your sexuality is just like male sexuality. 0.94
00:20:56.000 They've acted on it, but it turns out their sexuality is not like male sexuality.
00:21:03.000 It's not better, not worse.
00:21:04.000 It's just different.
00:21:05.000 So there was a clear prescription of let's be like men. 0.88
00:21:09.000 Another one, men define themselves by their work. 0.90
00:21:13.000 We women will define ourselves by our work. 1.00
00:21:17.000 So you're crazy if you think the most important thing you could do is be a mother and wife and make a home. 1.00
00:21:24.000 You're crazy. 0.99
00:21:25.000 You will get your joy from sales. 1.00
00:21:29.000 That's where your meaning in life will come from.
00:21:32.000 By the way, for a male in sales, it is perfectly true.
00:21:36.000 Much of it is we are, we men, we are what we do.
00:21:40.000 Whether we like it or not, that is the way we think.
00:21:44.000 Because I think male and female is different, but complementary.
00:21:48.000 Yes.
00:21:49.000 Well, that's what, you know, the biblical worldview, we've often referred to it in the church as complementarianism.
00:21:53.000 Let me ask you this.
00:21:54.000 You know, I view it that way.
00:21:55.000 Like you said, men will take pride in sales, or, for example, a big part of what defines me outside of, obviously, my faith and my relationships is my work.
00:22:03.000 A big component to that is because work is how you provide for your woman, for your family, which is central to masculinity. 0.90
00:22:11.000 Fascinating.
00:22:12.000 And that's a big part of our identity, and it's not for a woman. 0.99
00:22:15.000 Do you think that plays a big role?
00:22:17.000 Yes, that's exactly right.
00:22:19.000 And then, look, how do I know?
00:22:20.000 I know this because I, like you, had a wise understanding, not from me, from something wise called the Bible.
00:22:29.000 I know it's mocked today because everything it stands for, the left doesn't stand for.
00:22:35.000 So there's a real conflict in civilization.
00:22:37.000 Okay, fine.
00:22:38.000 But I knew it later from calls from women onto my radio show. 1.00
00:22:43.000 And they would say, I would say, so let me ask you, Now that you are 40 years old, 50 years old, if you bought feminism in college, are you happy you did?
00:22:57.000 And caller after caller said, I was sold a bill of goods.
00:23:01.000 I now am a very high CEO, but you know what?
00:23:05.000 It pales in comparison to coming home to a husband and children.
00:23:10.000 And I made a big mistake.
00:23:13.000 Well, you know, that is something, and I was actually, what were you going to say, Jerry?
00:23:16.000 Oh, go ahead with your point first.
00:23:18.000 No, no, go ahead.
00:23:19.000 Oh, my thing was, it's funny how we, I was talking about this morning.
00:23:24.000 Feminism is a celebration, really, of masculinity, but somehow they figure it out to vilify. 1.00
00:23:30.000 The premise of men is immediately vilified.
00:23:33.000 For instance, this weekend over Father's Day, a University of Michigan came out with a study saying low testosterone may actually make you a better father.
00:23:40.000 And it just comes at this.
00:23:42.000 The premise is masculinity.
00:23:45.000 Let's remove what makes you male. 1.00
00:23:46.000 You're male.
00:23:47.000 That's automatically bad.
00:23:48.000 Yeah.
00:23:48.000 And applied to women.
00:23:48.000 So it's just like the mental gymnastics.
00:23:51.000 He's right.
00:23:52.000 Well, the point here is, their real agenda is to feminize men and masculinize women.
00:23:58.000 That's their real agenda.
00:24:00.000 They don't want differences.
00:24:02.000 It bothers them.
00:24:05.000 Because, this took me decades to figure out, leftism is at war with reality.
00:24:16.000 Let's undo it.
00:24:18.000 And isn't that ironic because they always like to claim the territory of nuance, right?
00:24:22.000 You right-wingers see it as black and white.
00:24:25.000 We see the nuance, but their reality just at some point has hit them in the face.
00:24:30.000 Or how about this?
00:24:31.000 We're anti-science.
00:24:33.000 If we merely say, yes, the world is getting warmer, but we don't know fully why, and we don't necessarily think we'll become extinct in 2019.
00:24:43.000 We're anti-science.
00:24:45.000 But if you say a person who has a vagina, a uterus, ovaries, eggs, two X chromosomes, and breasts, and produces milk, It's not a woman. 1.00
00:25:01.000 That's not anti-science. 0.85
00:25:03.000 No, I know.
00:25:04.000 We've made that point on this show so many times.
00:25:06.000 And I'm sure in large part to being influenced by you.
00:25:08.000 You know what?
00:25:09.000 It's funny that you bring that up.
00:25:11.000 I will say this.
00:25:11.000 As far as giving you more hope, we see a lot of young people who are atheists who watch our show.
00:25:17.000 For example, we have Convert Crowder Week.
00:25:20.000 Sorry, my dog has to go out to the bathroom.
00:25:23.000 This is the wonder of new media.
00:25:24.000 He's in here in the studio.
00:25:25.000 We have Convert Crowder Week because I said I was at an Irish Catholic wedding and people were trying to convert me to Catholicism.
00:25:29.000 And I said if people want to present the case as to why it's the one true church, I will welcome it and we can have this discussion.
00:25:35.000 People most excited about it are atheists. 0.94
00:25:38.000 Unlike new atheism in the era sort of Dawkins, less so Hitchens, and then Sam Harris, a lot of them have turned on it and said, well, you know what?
00:25:46.000 I don't necessarily believe in God, but they call themselves Christian sympathetic because they do see Judeo-Christian values as the fulcrum of Western society.
00:25:56.000 So I will say that is changing at a very rapid rate just in the last year and a half for people who aren't even believers.
00:26:03.000 Wow.
00:26:03.000 Wow, that's great to hear.
00:26:05.000 I hope they'll see our videos, for example, my videos on the Ten Commandments, because even if you're an atheist, at least see why that's the central moral document of humanity.
00:26:17.000 Yeah, I agree with you, and let me ask you this.
00:26:20.000 Okay, there's no other way to approach it.
00:26:22.000 Did you read about...
00:26:24.000 I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be crass here.
00:26:26.000 Buzzfeed, speaking of women, feminism, the women who painted with their menstruation blood, have you seen this?
00:26:33.000 Oh! 0.60
00:26:36.000 This is another gift of the left, scatological art.
00:26:40.000 Okay, good.
00:26:41.000 Urine, fecal matter, menstrual blood, and I'm not putting menstrual blood with those other two things, but if the body excretes it, They make art out of it.
00:26:53.000 This is what the talent-free do.
00:26:58.000 At some point, you start to find yourself just begging for more Jackson Pollock paintings because this has gotten so bad.
00:27:04.000 Bleeding!
00:27:06.000 Yes, it's kind of like with music now with this alternative rock.
00:27:10.000 I'm going, God, just bring me back Pink Floyd's 40 minutes of...
00:27:13.000 and animal sounds.
00:27:15.000 I'll take it!
00:27:16.000 Oh, you will love this.
00:27:17.000 Today on my show...
00:27:20.000 I played a few minutes of a new piece of music, classical music, because that's what I'm in.
00:27:26.000 I conduct orchestras periodically.
00:27:28.000 So I followed this stuff.
00:27:32.000 What the left has done to art is like what they've done to music is what they've done to art.
00:27:37.000 It's become nonsense.
00:27:38.000 A guy wrote a three-and-a-half-hour piece just using one note, a D. Really?
00:27:48.000 Yes.
00:27:49.000 And how do I know?
00:27:50.000 It was seriously reviewed in the New York Times.
00:27:54.000 Wow.
00:27:56.000 Wow.
00:27:56.000 If you can, when we get off air, have one of your people send that over if you can.
00:28:00.000 I would love to see it.
00:28:01.000 We'd probably love to talk about it on the show.
00:28:02.000 Please.
00:28:02.000 Please.
00:28:03.000 No, no.
00:28:03.000 All right.
00:28:04.000 You send me an email and I will email back to you the article.
00:28:07.000 That sounds fantastic.
00:28:08.000 And it's got a sound sample with it so you can play it for your listeners.
00:28:12.000 Yeah.
00:28:13.000 What really bothers me about that, and then I want to get back to the masculinity thing, because I do have an important point I want to ask you about.
00:28:18.000 What really bothers me about that is the same thing that bothers me about sports.
00:28:22.000 For example, Gerald Morgan, who's often on the show in that chair, he went to Notre Dame.
00:28:26.000 He was the first pick to go to Notre Dame, blew his knee out, never got to play football.
00:28:30.000 We probably don't know who the best athletes were of all time because they didn't make it through the ringer.
00:28:35.000 There are probably some unbelievable athletes who just blew a knee out, blew an ankle out.
00:28:39.000 I knew a guy, to compare it to Art, there was a guy in the Montreal subway system.
00:28:44.000 This is true, just like you.
00:28:45.000 I'm not exaggerating.
00:28:46.000 You've heard me talk about this on the show several times.
00:28:48.000 Three flutes.
00:28:49.000 One in each nostril, one in his mouth, and he played the entire Star Wars theme song.
00:28:55.000 All right, well, that is great.
00:28:57.000 But you'll never know about him because someone drew with their period blood.
00:29:00.000 What bothers me is that they bumped the spot for the guy in the subway.
00:29:03.000 I do want to know.
00:29:05.000 I wish you had a picture, though.
00:29:06.000 How do you get a flute up your nose?
00:29:08.000 Maybe it was a sideway.
00:29:09.000 Maybe these were piccolos.
00:29:12.000 Oh, piccolo is possible.
00:29:13.000 Maybe they were piccolos.
00:29:14.000 Okay.
00:29:16.000 Piccolos and a flute.
00:29:18.000 And by the way, that same guy then put two sticks here and did the timpani.
00:29:22.000 Yes, yes.
00:29:23.000 He probably could.
00:29:24.000 I wouldn't put it past him.
00:29:25.000 We had a guy who played the spoons outside of Ogilvy's.
00:29:27.000 That was our Macy's.
00:29:28.000 You'd sit there and go, this guy, this guy has a gift and no one will ever know.
00:29:33.000 All right.
00:29:33.000 Anyway, going back to the feminism issue, here's one thing you've talked about a lot and I think is important for people to note.
00:29:38.000 At the same time as we're talking about imbuing women with these fundamental human rights like abortion and free birth control.
00:29:48.000 Now, all of these are women's rights. 1.00
00:29:50.000 There definitely is a movement to simply strip men of basic biological functions which have served as rights.
00:29:57.000 For example, manspreading.
00:29:59.000 We have a big video coming out on that tomorrow.
00:30:00.000 That's been banned in Madrid.
00:30:02.000 It's where men sit slightly wider. 0.58
00:30:04.000 No.
00:30:05.000 It's been banned in Madrid?
00:30:07.000 In Madrid, and there's a push to ban it elsewhere.
00:30:09.000 We actually went on it.
00:30:10.000 People will see this tomorrow.
00:30:11.000 Specifically on public transit, right?
00:30:13.000 Specifically on public transportation.
00:30:14.000 We asked women. 1.00
00:30:15.000 We offered them a $20 gift card to take part in the experiment.
00:30:18.000 We said, okay, look how you're sitting now.
00:30:20.000 We want you to put on this apparatus.
00:30:21.000 And all it was was a jockstrap, which they put on outside of their pants. 0.99
00:30:26.000 So it would be nowhere near as uncomfortable as having a sexual organ between your legs. 0.99
00:30:30.000 They sat down, and every single one of them manspread and said... 0.99
00:30:35.000 I get it now.
00:30:36.000 This really wouldn't be comfortable to close my legs.
00:30:38.000 And it's a law in a place like Madrid.
00:30:41.000 And then you have the cultural ramifications of practices, you've talked about this, like smoking, cigars, pipes, the things that men have naturally enjoyed for a long time.
00:30:49.000 These are being stripped away, eliminated as, like you said, even hobbies, let alone rights, while we're adding new non-existent rights to the feminine. 1.00
00:30:58.000 That seems to be something that has really turned off a lot of young males, including even some young formerly feminists.
00:31:06.000 Well, it's good to hear because I have said often, I feel sympathy for this generation. 0.98
00:31:14.000 They are the object of an experiment.
00:31:18.000 For example, the number of teachers who will no longer call an elementary school will no longer call their students boys and girls.
00:31:29.000 They're told to.
00:31:30.000 In Charlotte, North Carolina, they were given an order.
00:31:33.000 Do not refer to your students as boys and girls, just as students.
00:31:39.000 Because they don't want to impose a gender identity on a 10 year old.
00:31:43.000 Yeah, I actually would take the other view where if you allow your 10-year-old to go through a sex change operation or any kind of hormone replacement therapy, you should be locked away for child abuse.
00:31:55.000 That's right.
00:31:55.000 That's correct.
00:31:56.000 We are really in sync.
00:31:58.000 That's exactly right.
00:31:59.000 Well, speaking of that, I don't know if you've talked about this on your show, but just as far as science, you know the whole organic food trend.
00:32:06.000 Obviously, you're in California, and I'm sure you're aware of BPA-free.
00:32:11.000 You see that term everywhere, right?
00:32:12.000 It means this is safe plastic.
00:32:14.000 Don't put this in the microwave.
00:32:15.000 Well, a big reason for that is because these chemicals act as what they call xenoestrogens in the body.
00:32:21.000 In other words, they can raise estrogen to a level that can actually, in a male specifically, be toxic.
00:32:27.000 So we use organic food to avoid the pesticides.
00:32:32.000 Same thing, you stay away from soy. 0.99
00:32:34.000 Don't put lavender on your nipples. 0.98
00:32:36.000 These are rules that you live by. 1.00
00:32:38.000 But then, when injected directly into your ass, however, we're supposed to believe that estrogen replacement therapy in the male anatomy is consequence-free. 0.99
00:32:48.000 It's something I've never had explained to me other than I'm a hate speaker. 0.99
00:32:52.000 Well, other than those who feel that they're women, who would get that? 0.98
00:32:57.000 No one.
00:32:58.000 Yeah, no male would.
00:32:59.000 Oh, I see.
00:33:00.000 You're saying that even those, there would be some health consequence.
00:33:05.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:33:05.000 I mean, a big part of the fitness industry and the organic food is to avoid, you know, basically estrogen mimickers.
00:33:11.000 That's what they are in the body, specifically males.
00:33:13.000 They talk about this.
00:33:14.000 GMOs.
00:33:15.000 It specifically goes back time and time again to, you know, men have higher estrogen levels and this increases cancer.
00:33:21.000 You know, listen.
00:33:22.000 Yeah, far beyond even just sterilization at that point.
00:33:24.000 Yes, yes, exactly.
00:33:25.000 But then they abandon this ship when it comes to men saying they want to be a woman and they want to inject estrogen.
00:33:30.000 They say, well, you know what?
00:33:31.000 The science isn't in yet.
00:33:32.000 We don't know if it's bad for them.
00:33:34.000 Well, the whole thing is anti-science.
00:33:37.000 And as I said earlier, you have every single physical characteristic of a female. 1.00
00:33:44.000 But if you say you're a male, you're a male.
00:33:46.000 Now, if you say to me, look, I am physiologically a female.
00:33:51.000 I really have what we call gender dysphoria.
00:33:55.000 I identify as a man.
00:33:57.000 I will dress as a man.
00:33:58.000 I will do whatever I can to look like a man. 0.58
00:34:01.000 Please call me Bill.
00:34:03.000 No, no, I'm not joking at all.
00:34:06.000 I will call you Bill.
00:34:07.000 I will honor...
00:34:09.000 The issue to me is not compassion for the individual.
00:34:13.000 It's the war on the belief that there is male and female.
00:34:18.000 That's what is so dangerous.
00:34:20.000 And by the way, I'll tell you where it began.
00:34:23.000 It began with same-sex marriage.
00:34:27.000 Yes.
00:34:28.000 Same-sex marriage, the argument was two arguments.
00:34:32.000 One, the gender of your spouse is irrelevant.
00:34:35.000 Marriage is marriage.
00:34:37.000 Gender is irrelevant. 1.00
00:34:38.000 Two, it doesn't matter if a child has a mother and father.
00:34:41.000 Two fathers, two mothers is just as good because there's no difference between the sexes. 0.95
00:34:46.000 Once those were accepted as arguments, this is inevitable.
00:34:51.000 If there's no difference, then you are what you want to be.
00:34:55.000 Yeah.
00:34:55.000 And you know what?
00:34:56.000 I will say this.
00:34:57.000 You had a caller on your show.
00:34:59.000 And I thought that this central premise that you're discussing right now is the single easiest refutation of comparing Yes.
00:35:25.000 Yes, I said there is no difference between a black and a white, but there are great differences between a man and a woman. 1.00
00:35:31.000 Yes, it's quite simple.
00:35:33.000 Yes, it is.
00:35:34.000 It's quite simple.
00:35:35.000 You worded it in a way that stuck with me.
00:35:37.000 I hate to not say that it's not as good now, but I remember you worded it. 0.94
00:35:40.000 You said, I don't believe that there's anything a white mother can provide for a child that a black mother can't. 0.73
00:35:47.000 But I certainly believe that there's something a mother can provide.
00:35:51.000 That is a better answer.
00:35:53.000 What's better?
00:35:55.000 It stuck with me because I remember providing that answer to teachers in college and they just said, you're getting an F, so just stop speaking.
00:36:02.000 By the way, I'm just curious, where do you hear my show?
00:36:05.000 Well, now I would just hear it online.
00:36:06.000 I haven't listened to radio in a long time.
00:36:08.000 Oh, you hear it online.
00:36:09.000 Yeah.
00:36:09.000 Okay, fine.
00:36:10.000 Back then, this is when my family lived in Dallas, and I think you were a case guy and followed by Michael Medved.
00:36:16.000 That's correct.
00:36:17.000 Okay.
00:36:18.000 No, actually, we visited Dallas, and then I was in Montreal, and I would listen to case guy online, because that was the only station I knew.
00:36:23.000 We didn't get conservative radio in Montreal.
00:36:25.000 Right.
00:36:26.000 You can get my show.
00:36:27.000 I have a lot of Canadian listeners, but they're like this underground movement.
00:36:31.000 Yes.
00:36:32.000 In Canada, I was stunned when you had a conservative prime minister.
00:36:37.000 I was stunned.
00:36:38.000 I know Canada pretty well.
00:36:39.000 It was an aberration.
00:36:42.000 Yes, and he was fantastic, by the way.
00:36:44.000 One of the most consistent prime ministers we've had.
00:36:46.000 Harper was your Reagan.
00:36:49.000 I said that all the time.
00:36:51.000 Yeah, he really was.
00:36:52.000 He really was.
00:36:53.000 And we knew people who would go just to the movie theater, and they'd run into him all the time.
00:36:56.000 The nicest guy.
00:36:57.000 Okay, Mr.
00:36:58.000 Prege, you've given us enough of your time.
00:36:59.000 Let me ask you this.
00:36:59.000 Final closing thought.
00:37:00.000 If you are to pass the torch, because now you have this massive audience, and you do have the ear of a lot of young people.
00:37:06.000 We've talked about masculine and feminine and kind of culture, Western civilization.
00:37:10.000 If there's one takeaway that you want younger people, people listening to this show, to take away as far as what is most important for them to learn and understand to take that torch from your generation and make sure that it's not lost as they pass it on.
00:37:29.000 I have in my mind, and I'm racing through Really, what idea would I like to leave most?
00:37:37.000 I think in the final analysis, this may not be the most important, but there is none that is more important.
00:37:48.000 People are not basically good, and the most important task of a society is to figure out how to make people good.
00:37:57.000 The left believes people are good.
00:37:59.000 They inherited the French Revolution.
00:38:01.000 I inherited the Bible and the American Revolution, which was based on the Bible.
00:38:07.000 They know we're not basically good.
00:38:10.000 I'm not saying we're basically evil, but we're not basically good.
00:38:14.000 And therefore, unlike the left, I don't blame rape and murder on poverty or racism.
00:38:22.000 I blame it on the murderer or the rapist.
00:38:25.000 And how do you make good people should preoccupy us?
00:38:30.000 I think that's a good one to pick, even if, as you said, you're not sure if it's the most important idea, but none of more important.
00:38:36.000 It's tied.
00:38:37.000 Yes, it's tied up there with collecting baseball cards.
00:38:39.000 But I will say that you talked about that last time, and that is what stuck with a lot of people.
00:38:46.000 So I'm glad to hear you reiterate it.
00:38:48.000 At Dennis Prager on Twitter, DennisPrager.com, Prager University.
00:38:51.000 Please go support, if you want to, his film with Adam Carolla.
00:38:55.000 It's being crowdfunded.
00:38:56.000 No safe spaces.
00:38:58.000 Mr.
00:38:58.000 Prager, thank you so much for taking the time.
00:39:00.000 We hope to have you back again and again as long as you're able to.
00:39:03.000 I want to come back again and again.
00:39:06.000 You're a delight.
00:39:07.000 Oh, stop it.
00:39:08.000 You're going to make me blush.
00:39:09.000 We'll see you all tomorrow with the man-spreading video.
00:39:12.000 And as soon as we shut this off, I need Mr.
00:39:14.000 Prager to send me that deed.