Louder with Crowder - #223 THE SHAPIRO AND CROWDER ORIGIN STORY! With Dean Cain… and Gavin McInnes? | Louder With Crowder

00:00:02.000 Hello, viewers.

00:00:03.000 Listen, we don't want to be those entertainers who are self-important enough to make the entire show about this horrible disaster that occurred this week as though we're raising awareness because you already know what's happened with the storm, with Harvey, what's been going on in South Texas.

00:00:16.000 But a lot of people out there have been doing whatever it is that they can.

00:00:20.000 You can give your time.

00:00:21.000 You can give money.

00:00:22.000 And here at Lotta with Crowder, we're able to give a platform.

00:00:24.000 I can't just write a check for hundreds of thousands of dollars like Miley Cyrus.

00:00:28.000 None of us here can.

00:00:29.000 We're not there yet.

00:00:30.000 Hopefully, we will be eventually.

00:00:32.000 But what we do have is a platform.

00:00:33.000 And you guys, the listeners and the viewers.

00:00:35.000 So here is what we are going to be doing.

00:00:38.000 This whole platform, Lotta with Crowder, the next two weeks.

00:00:42.000 Every single mug club sign up in the next two weeks, we're going to give $30 directly to Harvey Relief, specifically to the Houston Food Bank.

00:00:51.000 And that's because they're an organization where a huge portion of your money actually goes directly to those in need.

00:00:56.000 You can read up on them.

00:00:57.000 They have a great track record.

00:00:58.000 $30 of every single mug club.

00:00:59.000 So it's at lottowithcudder.com slash mug club will be given directly to those in need.

00:01:06.000 when this happened, we thought, well, we have another sponsor that would be Perfect.

00:01:10.000 If they could help us here and match it.

00:01:12.000 And, you know, we've done PrepareWithCrowder.com for a while.

00:01:14.000 Patriot Supply is one of our partners.

00:01:16.000 And we've always said, listen, we're not doomsday people.

00:01:18.000 But I live through the ice storm in Montreal.

00:01:20.000 My brother's been in Los Angeles when you have these earthquakes.

00:01:23.000 That is what the emergency food kit is for.

00:01:25.000 And they've come in really handy.

00:01:26.000 As a matter of fact, they're using these at shelters in Houston.

00:01:28.000 So right now, we're doing $30 of every mug club.

00:01:31.000 Sign up to Harvey Relief.

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00:01:36.000 It's $99 shipped to your door free.

00:01:37.000 That's a 30-day food supply.

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00:01:40.000 For every single kit that you guys buy, they're actually going to provide an entire week's worth of food for those in Houston.

00:01:47.000 So that's Mug Club $30, preparewithcrowder.com.

00:01:49.000 And listen, if you really just don't want to line our pockets, I understand it.

00:01:54.000 There are other organizations that do a lot of good work.

00:01:56.000 Or if you don't want to buy a food kit or a mug club, a subscription is too expensive.

00:01:59.000 Some good organizations are obviously the Red Cross.

00:02:02.000 The Salvation Army is doing a lot of good work down there.

00:02:05.000 Austin Pets Alive is a good one.

00:02:07.000 South Texas, if you're in Texas, Blood and Tissue Center.

00:02:10.000 Whatever it is that you can do, what they really need right now is they need resources.

00:02:14.000 They have a lot of volunteers, so they need that support through resources.

00:02:16.000 That means money.

00:02:17.000 And they need room.

00:02:19.000 They need homes.

00:02:19.000 So if you're in the area and there are people who need homes, open up your homes.

00:02:22.000 Or if you can't, there are animals that need homes that can just be fostered until they're reunited with their owners.

00:02:28.000 Whatever it is that you can do, this is what we can do.

00:02:30.000 lottowithcreder.com slash mugclub, $30 for the next two weeks.

00:02:33.000 And for the next two weeks, we are so grateful.

00:02:36.000 Patriot Supply, preparewithcreder.com, will match this food kit to those in need.

00:02:41.000 And now on to the regular immature programming.

00:02:45.000 Hopefully you expected nothing more.

00:02:47.000 Previously on Game of Thrones...

00:02:50.000 Your pledge to serve me as your queen is very much appreciated, Jon Snow.

00:02:56.000 I pledge to serve you as my queen because you show me something, Daenerys, that I have not seen in a long time.

00:03:02.000 And what is that?

00:03:03.000 Hope.

00:03:05.000 Hope?

00:03:06.000 And what of you?

00:03:07.000 Do you not hope for your own kingdom?

00:03:09.000 I concern myself not with kingdoms or crowns, but with the only battle right now that truly matters.

00:03:16.000 That...

00:03:17.000 Between the living and the dead. 1.00

00:03:19.000 F*** you, fascist! 1.00

00:03:20.000 What bloody hell was that? 1.00

00:03:23.000 It was an antifa! 0.97

00:03:25.000 It wasn't antifa!

00:03:27.000 It's an antifascist! 0.99

00:03:29.000 What the f*** does that even mean? 0.98

00:03:30.000 I'm not even a fascist! 1.00

00:03:32.000 He thinks you're a Nazi! 0.86

00:03:33.000 Ah, milk! 0.98

00:03:35.000 Milk!

00:03:35.000 I need milk!

00:03:36.000 I need a neutralizer with milk! 0.91

00:03:39.000 I need f***ing milk! 0.99

00:03:42.000 How can I help? 0.97

00:03:45.000 How can I help?

00:03:47.000 Stop! 1.00

00:03:48.000 I've been really cleaning the sick just to give me f***ing milk! 0.97

00:03:52.000 Open your eyes! 0.97

00:03:55.000 I am!

00:03:55.000 I am opening my eyes!

00:03:57.000 You only think you're opening your eyes!

00:04:00.000 I'm opening it!

00:04:01.000 I'm opening it!

00:04:03.000 What is that?

00:04:04.000 It's the milk!

00:04:04.000 It is milk!

00:04:05.000 There's no milk!

00:04:06.000 It's the milk!

00:04:07.000 It is milk!

00:04:08.000 It's the dragon's milk!

00:04:09.000 What?

00:04:10.000 Dragon's milk always runs the bone! 0.99

00:04:13.000 How am I supposed to know that?

00:04:14.000 I breathe far, you chit!

00:04:16.000 That's literally the worst thing you could have done!

00:04:19.000 I'm sorry!

00:05:11.000 It is sad.

00:05:12.000 When you think about it, we have so...

00:05:13.000 That's why men are not considered very good dancers unless we have a female dance partner. 0.97

00:05:17.000 We just have fewer tools.

00:05:19.000 Great show today.

00:05:20.000 We have Ben Shapiro, Dean Cain, on the show.

00:05:22.000 Producing with me in the video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.96

00:05:24.000 Follow him on Twitter at notgayjaredmedia.com with your thoughts, your comments, your photoshops.

00:05:29.000 I fulfill my legal obligations, drawing conclusions.

00:05:31.000 Are we good?

00:05:31.000 Not gay, it's confirmed.

00:05:32.000 It is confirmed.

00:05:35.000 Also, Gerald Morgan is on the show.

00:05:36.000 Adgy Morgan Jr., how are you today, sir?

00:05:38.000 I'm doing well, sir.

00:05:38.000 What's the wine of the day?

00:05:39.000 Wine of the day is Seven Hills Cabernet.

00:05:41.000 Sounds to me like you liked me shaking my breasts. 0.94

00:05:45.000 I want some more. 1.00

00:05:45.000 Because wine is gay. 1.00

00:05:46.000 Ben Shapiro, by the way, a little bit of a change of pace. 0.96

00:05:49.000 Obviously, we're so grateful this Harvey relief will be going on for two weeks.

00:05:54.000 Didn't really want to talk a whole bunch about that.

00:05:56.000 Didn't really want to get into politicizing that.

00:05:57.000 Chris Cuomo does a good enough job for us.

00:05:59.000 We'll get into that.

00:06:00.000 Of course.

00:06:00.000 Ben Shapiro and I will actually, some people have been asking, how do you know Ben?

00:06:03.000 How long have you known Ben?

00:06:04.000 So we'll get his thoughts on the news today, but kind of give you a little bit of a personal timeline.

00:06:09.000 Some of it there is interesting.

00:06:10.000 Oh.

00:06:11.000 Teaser.

00:06:11.000 Ben put me up for a job on radio, and the audition was so awful on my part, I think he almost got fired, just for recommending me.

00:06:21.000 Okay.

00:06:21.000 That's awesome.

00:06:22.000 Other news of the day.

00:06:22.000 You've come so far.

00:06:24.000 Well, it was like, today's news in America, like reading them at breaks.

00:06:27.000 Oh, so kind of like when I subbed in for you.

00:06:29.000 There you go.

00:06:29.000 Yeah.

00:06:30.000 Similar.

00:06:31.000 Only far more embarrassing.

00:06:32.000 Yep.

00:06:32.000 And much more damaging to Ben Fero's reputation.

00:06:34.000 Yeah.

00:06:34.000 Absolutely.

00:06:35.000 Let's be real.

00:06:36.000 Tumblr did it.

00:06:36.000 Tumblr did it enough.

00:06:38.000 Outrage from all sides right now.

00:06:40.000 This has been trending today over a remake of Lord of the Flies, which, because it's 2017, will feature all women.

00:06:48.000 That's going to go well.

00:06:49.000 Lord of the Flies will feature all women.

00:06:51.000 It's being tentatively titled, and they're dead.

00:06:53.000 That's the working title.

00:06:55.000 It's about how will women fare in a survivalist situation. 1.00

00:07:00.000 Not well.

00:07:01.000 No.

00:07:01.000 I cannot imagine this is going to go well.

00:07:04.000 Now, some feminists are praising the film because, like with Ghostbusters, they're happy. 1.00

00:07:07.000 We have an all-female. 0.98

00:07:07.000 We don't like anything original. 0.98

00:07:09.000 So feminists, oh, well, let's just take guy things and appropriate it. 1.00

00:07:11.000 Though some are actually saying it's going too far.

00:07:13.000 A script was leaked.

00:07:14.000 And some people think it may be a little too much where, in an act of desperation, the gang allegedly steals Piggie's ovaries.

00:07:21.000 So it's something they're a little upset about.

00:07:24.000 Try making a fire with that.

00:07:26.000 Is this the feminist version where they all get talking conks and it's just a lot of yelling? 1.00

00:07:31.000 Yeah.

00:07:31.000 The other working title is high school.

00:07:33.000 High school.

00:07:34.000 I used to work at Target.

00:07:36.000 These broads, they can't manage the shoe department without turning into a catty hellhole. 1.00

00:07:43.000 It is hard.

00:07:44.000 It is hard to lead women. 0.97

00:07:45.000 The first people to tell you that Is any woman who's worked with the majority of the other women? 0.88

00:07:48.000 Well, hold on.

00:07:49.000 If they put, like, pretty girls on the island, you know, when they had, you know, bikinis and things like that? 0.97

00:07:53.000 Yeah, that's the third tentative title, Girls Gone Wild 18.

00:07:56.000 Yeah, I was about to say, haven't they already made this, but in a little more adult fashion?

00:07:58.000 Here's the thing.

00:07:59.000 If they're attractive, it's Girls Gone Wild. 1.00

00:08:01.000 Right.

00:08:01.000 If they're ugly, it's box office disaster.

00:08:04.000 They're stuck between a rock and a fat feminist place. 1.00

00:08:04.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:08:07.000 I will do this about Lord of the Flies.

00:08:09.000 It taught me very early on, and I don't know if any of you have had an experience like this.

00:08:12.000 You can tweet me at Ascrider.

00:08:14.000 It taught me very early, or leave your comment in the comment section, that I deal with tragedy through humor.

00:08:18.000 Because I remember seeing the film, and I was upset for weeks as a kid when they just, spoiler alert, bashed Peggy's head in with a rock.

00:08:26.000 And stole his glasses.

00:08:28.000 And I was so upset about it as a kid.

00:08:30.000 I remember then we were reading it in high school in the class.

00:08:32.000 And I knew that it was coming up, the portion of the book where they kill Piggy.

00:08:36.000 And I started laughing hysterically and uncontrollably.

00:08:40.000 And I didn't know why.

00:08:41.000 How terrible of you.

00:08:42.000 I always pronounced it conch, by the way. 1.00

00:08:44.000 It's because you're retarded. 1.00

00:08:45.000 Oh, boy. 1.00

00:08:46.000 Theresa May.

00:08:47.000 This is the headline.

00:08:48.000 I couldn't see it.

00:08:48.000 It was in the wrong color.

00:08:48.000 Theresa May.

00:08:49.000 Did you see this headline?

00:08:50.000 Theresa May condemns North Korea in the strongest terms possible. 1.00

00:08:55.000 Okay, so she said that that f***ing freaky little muppet can go f***ing himself upside down with a wire brush until he develops acle pops and cold rectal s*** because he's an absolute scourge on society as a piece of s***. 1.00

00:09:08.000 She actually, Stephen, just said... 1.00

00:09:10.000 We condemn North Korea in the strongest terms possible. 0.81

00:09:14.000 Now I'm going to look like the dead.

00:09:16.000 No.

00:09:17.000 Maybe jump the gun.

00:09:18.000 What do they think they're accomplishing by using that same term?

00:09:20.000 Every time something terrible is described.

00:09:22.000 In the strongest terms possible.

00:09:24.000 It's like, really?

00:09:25.000 I can't be the only one who can see these headlines.

00:09:27.000 Like, in the strongest terms possible.

00:09:29.000 Ooh, this is juicy.

00:09:29.000 Yeah.

00:09:30.000 It's got to be real.

00:09:31.000 Like my dad.

00:09:32.000 They're pissed.

00:09:32.000 Instead of spanking me, I am disappointed.

00:09:35.000 And let that be noted, in the strongest way possible. 0.66

00:09:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:09:39.000 You mean you're not going to beat my ass? 1.00

00:09:41.000 Strongest way possible! 1.00

00:09:41.000 No! 1.00

00:09:42.000 Oh! 0.60

00:09:44.000 Oh, that really hurts!

00:09:46.000 Shame on me! 0.63

00:09:47.000 Shame on me! 0.63

00:09:47.000 Never do it again! 0.63

00:09:48.000 Speaking of a disappointment to Dad, DNC cool boy in chief Chris Cuomo got into it with Kellyanne Conway.

00:09:55.000 He tried to pivot Houston to climate change.

00:09:59.000 No, it is climate change right now.

00:10:01.000 Just see for yourself first.

00:10:03.000 You berated me for asking the question and made it sound as if I weren't caring about the situation.

00:10:08.000 I think the cause of this storm matters.

00:10:10.000 I'm exposing the irony of the conversation.

00:10:12.000 Here's the deal.

00:10:13.000 You play amateur climatologist tonight, and I will play professional helper to those in need and continue in my job here as counselor to the president.

00:10:22.000 Look at his face!

00:10:24.000 That's what it looks like.

00:10:25.000 He clearly has no comeback.

00:10:27.000 He just sits there. 0.99

00:10:30.000 He just got bitch slapped so severely on national television. 0.99

00:10:36.000 It's painful to watch. 0.99

00:10:38.000 It's painful to watch somebody go onto somebody else's show and embarrass them.

00:10:41.000 And actually, I don't know if you...

00:10:42.000 A lot of people miss this because they just see the highlight, as though they don't provide the context.

00:10:47.000 But it gets worse for Chris if you look at his real reaction.

00:10:50.000 And here's the deal.

00:10:51.000 You play amateur climatologist tonight, and I will play professional helper to those in need and continue.

00:10:58.000 Role-playing, huh?

00:11:00.000 Yeah.

00:11:02.000 Role-playing with Kellyanne Conway.

00:11:04.000 I can get behind that.

00:11:06.000 Or bend over for it.

00:11:09.000 I don't think he's...

00:11:10.000 I think he needs to focus more, Chris Cuomo.

00:11:13.000 He looks like he needs to perpetually take a boot.

00:11:16.000 He does.

00:11:16.000 He always looks like he needs to run to the...

00:11:17.000 Like, during the commercial break, he's running to the bathroom, just like, clear the path!

00:11:21.000 Jared is somebody with experience in this.

00:11:23.000 Yeah, I... Just the other day, I had someone walk past me at World Market.

00:11:27.000 This person was...

00:11:28.000 Round tubby Asian kid. 1.00

00:11:30.000 Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. 0.51

00:11:31.000 I would have sworn it was like Chris Cuomo heading to the bathroom.

00:11:34.000 Then he sat down right next to me on the bench.

00:11:36.000 Did nothing.

00:11:37.000 He was pushing people over out of his way.

00:11:40.000 Screaming, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. 0.84

00:11:41.000 Where was this bench?

00:11:42.000 It was right next to me.

00:11:43.000 But where were you?

00:11:44.000 Out in front of the store.

00:11:45.000 Which store?

00:11:46.000 World Market!

00:11:47.000 Oh, oh, World Market.

00:11:48.000 He wasn't going anywhere!

00:11:49.000 I was going to say, you live in a very suburban area where there are no benches.

00:11:52.000 There was a bench.

00:11:53.000 That was also weird.

00:11:53.000 So either you were buying methamphetamine...

00:11:56.000 Also really weird.

00:11:57.000 Did you give him five and, like, trade stuff?

00:11:59.000 It was very, very uncomfortable of a story, and I still think there needs to be more context provided.

00:12:04.000 Okay, Japanese pro-wrestling.

00:12:06.000 This is actually, this is a big, for people who aren't pro-wrestling fans...

00:12:08.000 But a Japanese pro wrestler has become the first ever to top the Pro Wrestling Illustrated 500 list.

00:12:16.000 So for those who aren't necessarily fans of fake fighting with sweaty steroided men, let me provide you with some context.

00:12:22.000 He's known as the Rainmaker.

00:12:25.000 Kazuchika Okada, actually, he's the first one.

00:12:27.000 And he's really accepted it, the award.

00:12:31.000 He's proud to be number one Okada, though.

00:12:33.000 He said he'll always live in the shadow of his father, a legendary zero.

00:12:36.000 So that's something that...

00:12:40.000 It's not too soon.

00:12:41.000 It's never too soon.

00:12:43.000 And this surprised a lot of people.

00:12:44.000 This is a big wrestling publication.

00:12:45.000 It's like the Sports Illustrated for wrestling.

00:12:47.000 It is big for baseball kids.

00:12:48.000 I don't know if you know, it's big in Japan.

00:12:50.000 Wrestling is huge.

00:12:51.000 It's the United States, kind of like baseball.

00:12:52.000 The United States and Japan, it's this huge subculture there.

00:12:56.000 So it surprised a lot of people in the United States.

00:12:58.000 I'm a wrestling fan.

00:12:59.000 It didn't really come as a surprise to wrestling fans or those in the Japanese community after Okada's most recent.

00:13:05.000 Really, it's become an iconic victory in the ring.

00:13:08.000 Watch it.

00:13:09.000 He looks fired up here.

00:13:10.000 This is going to be fun to watch.

00:13:18.000 *Screams* This is still funny.

00:13:21.000 It's so funny.

00:13:22.000 You're a wrestling fan?

00:13:24.000 No. 0.94

00:13:24.000 I was about to say, what the hell? 0.94

00:13:26.000 I was when I was a kid.

00:13:27.000 Well, parallel world and we live again.

00:13:28.000 We exported douchebaggery to Japan and apparently they love it in wrestling. 1.00

00:13:31.000 I wouldn't say wrestling is douchebaggery. 0.98

00:13:33.000 Come on, it's just silly.

00:13:35.000 Every other picture of me in the morning, we get in there and we go, is this played out yet?

00:13:39.000 There we go.

00:13:40.000 Is there any way to fit in David Downey?

00:13:41.000 We go...

00:13:42.000 Nope. 0.97

00:13:43.000 And then we realized it's not played out because we're the only ones who have the balls to laugh at. 0.96

00:13:46.000 That's true. 0.76

00:13:47.000 We felt bad for about three seconds.

00:13:49.000 We're like, no, this is okay.

00:13:50.000 This is okay.

00:13:50.000 I was surprised as to the backlash.

00:13:52.000 We probably have received the biggest backlash over laughing over David Dow and then telling the truth about Bruce Lee.

00:13:58.000 Well, and then the rapper who got shot who said he couldn't be shot.

00:14:01.000 I think we were ahead of the curve on that.

00:14:03.000 That's still funny.

00:14:04.000 But the rapper who rapped about being bulletproof.

00:14:06.000 He actually rapped about being bulletproof and was shot dead.

00:14:10.000 In terrible taste?

00:14:11.000 Absolutely.

00:14:12.000 Of course, yeah.

00:14:12.000 Some songs don't age well.

00:14:13.000 But funny.

00:14:14.000 Yeah.

00:14:15.000 It's true.

00:14:15.000 Some songs, some films don't age well.

00:14:17.000 The guy who rapped about being bulletproof, getting riddled with bullets, that would be in the category.

00:14:23.000 All right, so a lot of people have been asking about this.

00:14:25.000 Since there's not a whole lot in the news outside of, listen, help however you can with Houston...

00:14:29.000 I wanted to dive into something because a few people have asked questions about this and they're at the forefront of some news stories right now.

00:14:34.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:14:36.000 For those who don't know SPLC, you probably see it around quite a bit.

00:14:39.000 Now, why is this something I wanted to dive into?

00:14:42.000 Because YouTube is really using the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:14:46.000 They've talked about their hate speech guidelines now when they're combing through not only YouTube, but if you look at Google, you look at some of the third party unbiased resources, places like Facebook are using Snopes, PolitiFact, and you see how far left they lean.

00:14:58.000 Well, the Southern Poverty Law Center has situated themselves where they have a lot more influence over the things that you see or read online than I think you necessarily know.

00:15:07.000 So let's go through a history here and get to where they are today with YouTube.

00:15:12.000 So, this is how it started.

00:15:13.000 In 1971, the Southern Poverty Law Center was founded by civil rights lawyers Morris Dees and Joseph Levin Jr.

00:15:18.000 And it was founded as a law firm to fight poverty, to fight racial discrimination, and the death penalty.

00:15:23.000 Hmm.

00:15:23.000 So we're starting off.

00:15:24.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:15:25.000 Even if you don't necessarily agree with their politics, you can understand, okay, a legal defense fund or a firm to fight against the death penalty, I get it.

00:15:33.000 Yeah.

00:15:33.000 I mean, were these guys Catholic, by the way?

00:15:35.000 Because I know that's a big Catholic position on the death penalty.

00:15:37.000 I mean, I get fight poverty and racial discrimination, but that part is...

00:15:39.000 Well, it's certainly not in their code of conduct as it stands today.

00:15:42.000 What it is is more of a social justice issue.

00:15:45.000 Then in 1981, the Southern Poverty Law Center began Klan's Watch.

00:15:49.000 It was a project monitoring the KKK. Okay.

00:15:53.000 I'm fine with it.

00:15:54.000 I mean, I don't think it's that hard to spot a Klansman at this point in 1981.

00:15:59.000 Is it Robert Byrd?

00:16:00.000 No.

00:16:01.000 Is he near Robert Byrd?

00:16:02.000 No.

00:16:03.000 That increases the chances by 99%.

00:16:06.000 Does he have a statue?

00:16:07.000 Never mind that.

00:16:08.000 There's a torch and a bed sheet and a horse.

00:16:11.000 So they started with a Klan's watch, but then it turned into a much, much broader hate watch, which is what we know today.

00:16:17.000 And we'll get to that in a little bit.

00:16:19.000 In 1986, the entire staff outside of the Founder left.

00:16:24.000 The SPLC. And most of them said it was because the organization was shifting from fighting against death penalty, from fighting for social justice sort of landmark cases, to simply targeting conservatives and creating their right-wing hate watch.

00:16:36.000 So that was 1986.

00:16:38.000 Any questions?

00:16:39.000 Is that pretty much because we decided that it was better for them to be able to pull themselves out of poverty instead of just being given free handouts?

00:16:45.000 I mean, is that where that kind of comes from?

00:16:47.000 Well, the Democrats, they're kind of going after conservatives because conservatives are saying, hey, we're going to help you get jobs.

00:16:51.000 This is one thing where people have been saying, I was always a Democrat, and this is one thing that kind of bothers me.

00:16:55.000 I was always a Democrat until it became so extreme.

00:16:57.000 Now, this timeline shows you, if you look at the left-wing activism, accusing the right of being racist has always been one of their go-to playing cards.

00:17:04.000 Yeah, but then backing it up by giving out the big social programs that we've got. 0.83

00:17:07.000 No, they just shifted it.

00:17:08.000 They just shifted to anyone who's conservative as a hate speaker.

00:17:11.000 You can go see their hate watch.

00:17:12.000 It doesn't have anything to do with economics or death penalty anymore.

00:17:14.000 1991, Southern Poverty Law Center, they launched the Teaching Tolerance Program to influence educators and instruct students on social justice and, quote, anti-bias.

00:17:23.000 How about anti-social justice bias?

00:17:26.000 Is that somewhere on the list?

00:17:28.000 It's like, we are an organization founded on biased ideals.

00:17:32.000 Get it.

00:17:33.000 We're gonna fight bias.

00:17:35.000 It's like the guy from Captain Planet with the power of heart. 1.00

00:17:37.000 LAUGHTER You are useless, Mowgli wannabe! 1.00

00:17:43.000 That's awesome. 1.00

00:17:44.000 I hate that kid.

00:17:46.000 It's kind of like the bow and arrow in Avengers. 0.54

00:17:48.000 What's his name?

00:17:49.000 I'm a great shot.

00:17:49.000 Hawkeye.

00:17:51.000 It's a robot.

00:17:52.000 It's a robot.

00:17:53.000 What the hell are you going to do?

00:17:54.000 Yeah, I've got Valerian Steel...

00:18:00.000 Everything about Hawkeye just offends the sensibilities. 0.99

00:18:03.000 Man, it sucks. 0.94

00:18:04.000 So this is what happened with Southern Poverty Law. 0.98

00:18:05.000 I wanted to give you a timeline of where they started, what their purpose was.

00:18:08.000 Law firm, fight these social justice causes, and then it came to, alright, everyone who's right-wing is horrible, and they started creating these maps, and Clans Watch became Hate Watch.

00:18:16.000 So that brings us to today.

00:18:18.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center today only serves as a propaganda wing of the left.

00:18:23.000 So this hate watch, if you go and see it, it looks to discredit any conservatives by labeling them extremists and putting them on these watch lists.

00:18:23.000 People need to understand that.

00:18:31.000 And you can go see these right now at Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:18:34.000 I think, do we have the map?

00:18:36.000 So they went from fighting the Klan to now fighting hate groups.

00:18:40.000 And you see on this map, by the way, remember when people got mad about Sarah Palin with the targets on the map because of districts to vote them out?

00:18:47.000 But they're actually putting targets on maps.

00:18:49.000 These are hate groups.

00:18:50.000 And amongst these people on these maps or these groups are hate groups like the Family Research Council, Alliance Defending Freedom, hate speakers, Dr.

00:18:58.000 Ben Carson.

00:18:59.000 Yeah.

00:19:00.000 Because he said that he supported traditional marriage.

00:19:03.000 Because he talks loud enough to threaten anyone on the planet.

00:19:05.000 Yes.

00:19:06.000 Super scary.

00:19:07.000 They pulled that back, I think, in 2015, but they put all of these groups or people on there.

00:19:11.000 It's kind of like Care with yours truly.

00:19:13.000 I'm a hate speaker.

00:19:14.000 By the way, Veiled Terrorist Organization Care.

00:19:17.000 You can come at us legally, Care.

00:19:19.000 That's when you said that in 1981 when they transferred it to hate groups.

00:19:19.000 I'm okay with it.

00:19:22.000 That's when I kind of cringed.

00:19:23.000 I was like, oh gosh, man.

00:19:24.000 That just leaves everything open.

00:19:27.000 Whoever decides it's hate, you're just going to watch those groups.

00:19:29.000 And it becomes entirely subjective.

00:19:30.000 Because not only Ben Carson, but people like Ayanna Hirsi Ali.

00:19:33.000 We've written about her.

00:19:34.000 She's a liberal atheist feminist.

00:19:36.000 So why is she a hate speaker? 1.00

00:19:37.000 Because she speaks out against Islam.

00:19:39.000 Someone who was raised with Islam. 0.73

00:19:41.000 Somebody who's seen the evil underbelly.

00:19:42.000 She's officially labeled a hate speaker. 1.00

00:19:45.000 If you look at the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:19:47.000 So they lay out their sacred cows and say these are off limits.

00:19:49.000 These are off limits.

00:19:50.000 Islam, feminism, Bruce Lee. 0.99

00:19:52.000 You can threaten to kill Christians all over the planet and you're totally fine. 1.00

00:19:55.000 Well, this brings them to their primary purpose. 0.92

00:19:58.000 And this is what's most disconcerting.

00:20:00.000 It's to silence free speech.

00:20:02.000 So their goal is to create this veil of all of these people are extremists.

00:20:07.000 Therefore, what do you need to do?

00:20:08.000 It's just like Antifa and Nazis, right? 0.95

00:20:10.000 That's what happens.

00:20:10.000 Like Antifa with Nazis.

00:20:11.000 If you think everybody is a Nazi, if you say everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi, someone says, well, what if I punch them? 0.97

00:20:17.000 And then you accidentally punch your own people. 0.96

00:20:20.000 Freaking hilarious.

00:20:20.000 Hey, listen, guy.

00:20:21.000 You punch your own guy.

00:20:23.000 It is important to not punch somebody just because you think they're a Nazi.

00:20:28.000 How about don't punch them, period?

00:20:29.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.98

00:20:30.000 Even if they're a Nazi, don't punch them! 0.89

00:20:33.000 How about that?

00:20:33.000 Just don't punch people because of their points of view.

00:20:36.000 So this is, when you paint everyone as extremists, and Southern Poverty Law Center has been doing this for a long, long time, I encourage you to go read the timeline on it.

00:20:43.000 Don't take my word for it, like LeVar Burton.

00:20:45.000 Find some six-year-old who can vouch for me.

00:20:48.000 So it's troubling because YouTube is using them as one of their partners for, I have the term here, Hate News Index, the Documenting Hate Project.

00:20:55.000 So yeah, groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center are relied upon as unbiased resources for YouTube to determine what is and isn't hate speech.

00:21:06.000 Now they're using these for videos where they're saying they're not necessarily a violation like recruiting for ISIS or beheadings, but kind of in that veiled area of hate speech.

00:21:14.000 Okay, so now we're using the SPLC. So is Ben Carson...

00:21:17.000 I believe in traditional marriage.

00:21:19.000 We're going to ban that on YouTube as hate speech?

00:21:21.000 Flagged?

00:21:22.000 Immediately.

00:21:23.000 And here's what's so upsetting about this.

00:21:25.000 YouTube made them a partner after the FBI completely dropped them.

00:21:31.000 Okay.

00:21:32.000 They were using the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:21:34.000 And then in 2014, they stopped for the exact same reasons that I've outlined.

00:21:37.000 And not only that, it should be noted.

00:21:38.000 It's not just ideological.

00:21:39.000 The FBI decided to drop them because they've actually been rated as a charity, consistently given an F rating from Charity Watch.

00:21:46.000 So not Hate Watch, but actual Charity Watch.

00:21:48.000 And that's why it's important with Houston.

00:21:50.000 You have celebrities given to LGBTQ causes where they toss out a sandwich, but 99% of it goes to painting a rainbow flag on a bus. 0.54

00:21:56.000 You should know where your money is going.

00:21:58.000 There are a lot of colors.

00:21:59.000 No, the Houston Food Drive.

00:22:01.000 There are 52 new colors.

00:22:02.000 We've got to go down to Home Depot.

00:22:05.000 It ain't going to pay in itself.

00:22:06.000 Well, wasn't she saying that with Linda Censor, she was saying that, you know, we're going to go help these immigrant groups.

00:22:12.000 We're not going to help everybody.

00:22:13.000 And everyone's like, are you serious?

00:22:14.000 Right.

00:22:15.000 This is a pack we're giving to.

00:22:16.000 Exactly.

00:22:17.000 And so this is why the FBI has dropped the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:22:21.000 And then you two picked up where they left off.

00:22:22.000 To give you an idea, in 2011, I think they raised over $7.5 million.

00:22:26.000 Yeah.

00:22:26.000 But they spent less than $1.7 of it on litigation.

00:22:29.000 Kind of odd for an organization that was founded.

00:22:32.000 On law.

00:22:33.000 It's in the name.

00:22:34.000 Where's the money going?

00:22:35.000 It's in the name.

00:22:36.000 You know, it's overhead.

00:22:38.000 It's overhead.

00:22:39.000 Somebody needs a new pool.

00:22:41.000 So, here's something else.

00:22:43.000 YouTube is not only consulting with them, but they've invited staff members from the Southern Poverty Law Center to be a part of YouTube's trusted flagger program.

00:22:52.000 Yeah, think about this.

00:22:53.000 They've been invited saying, we're going to give you access to these tools.

00:22:55.000 Now, they're shutting a lot of people out.

00:22:57.000 Now, I will say this.

00:22:58.000 We've had good contacts with YouTube.

00:23:00.000 We've actually been informed that we're probably not going to be affected by a lot of these sort of hate speech guidelines on YouTube.

00:23:07.000 Obviously, the demonetization has been huge.

00:23:09.000 That's why the Mug Club support. 0.95

00:23:10.000 We're incredibly grateful for it.

00:23:11.000 But it is disconcerting when you see, okay, Southern Poverty Law Center...

00:23:15.000 You're inviting them in to use tools while you're stripping other YouTube partners of tools.

00:23:20.000 You're stripping their videos of comments, of thumbs up, of the ability to share it.

00:23:25.000 It goes into a ghost world on YouTube.

00:23:27.000 Now, we don't know how this is going to be rolled out.

00:23:29.000 We don't know who's going to be affected.

00:23:31.000 So hopefully we keep an eye on it.

00:23:33.000 But here's something that, knowing everything we know now, you're YouTube, you're Google, and you're saying, okay, we need to have some people who are going to check us here.

00:23:40.000 We need to check our blind spots and make sure that we're considering all points of view and determining what is and isn't hate speech.

00:23:47.000 And you go with the organization that classifies Ben Carson in the same breath as neo-Nazis?

00:23:55.000 At a certain point, is it proactive propaganda, or is it just ignorance?

00:23:58.000 The question is, does YouTube, a subsidiary of Google, do they not have access to Google?

00:24:04.000 Look, whoever controls the information controls what people think.

00:24:09.000 This is important.

00:24:10.000 This is really important.

00:24:11.000 This is exactly what happened, and we talked about Nazis a second ago.

00:24:14.000 This is what happened with the Jews. 1.00

00:24:15.000 They started blaming the Jews for the problems that they were having.

00:24:18.000 They started classifying these different groups together.

00:24:20.000 And all of a sudden, you started to get it into the psyche, and people started to make the connection, our problems are because of these groups of people.

00:24:26.000 I wish you hadn't used the Nazi example.

00:24:28.000 No, that's the Nazi example! 0.88

00:24:29.000 That's what we were just talking about!

00:24:31.000 They're calling us Nazis!

00:24:32.000 Don't call me a Nazi! 1.00

00:24:34.000 You're a Jew! 0.99

00:24:37.000 You're the one who gets called a Jew, not me! 0.78

00:24:38.000 It's true, I do.

00:24:39.000 I get called a Jew all the time.

00:24:40.000 But that's why it's important, because it's very easy to go from where we're at.

00:24:44.000 Even if YouTube is totally going to be nice to everybody, it's very easy to go to the next day.

00:24:48.000 It's a proven strategy no matter what your end goal is.

00:24:50.000 It's a proven strategy if you just repeat it enough times, people go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's hate speech.

00:24:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's hate speech.

00:24:56.000 Everyone's going, Ben Carson, Ben Carson, goobble gobble, one of us, one of us, one of us, Ben Carson, hate speech.

00:25:04.000 And you're in an information age where you're not actually listening to what he's saying.

00:25:06.000 I'm using him because he's a super benign example.

00:25:09.000 By the way, that hate map includes Christian middle schools as hate groups.

00:25:13.000 Yes, I'm not exaggerating.

00:25:14.000 Go look at the hate watch map.

00:25:16.000 Well, that's the very next step for Christians. 1.00

00:25:18.000 We're worried as Christians because there's a lot of beliefs that we hold that they would label as hate speech sometimes.

00:25:23.000 And like, guys, we don't hate anybody.

00:25:25.000 That's the whole point of our religion is love. 0.99

00:25:27.000 When they do it, it becomes a real bitch to sacrifice virgins. 1.00

00:25:28.000 People know that this is part of the process. 0.99

00:25:30.000 If you're Episcopalians, you do a mock sacrifice. 0.80

00:25:34.000 We were talking about this, the hate speech laws.

00:25:35.000 Before we even get to this...

00:25:36.000 That bothers me a lot.

00:25:37.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:25:38.000 You don't have to go to Ben Shapiro.

00:25:39.000 I have a real problem with legislating what people think, right?

00:25:42.000 And that's exactly what HB's laws do.

00:25:45.000 And I heard about this.

00:25:46.000 I watched The West Wing a lot, and there's an episode that addresses this that really made the point.

00:25:49.000 They were trying to do it, and I was like, wait a minute.

00:25:51.000 Murder is murder, right?

00:25:52.000 Like, the person is still dead.

00:25:54.000 When you hated them...

00:25:55.000 Exactly.

00:25:56.000 You know, what you said...

00:25:57.000 I don't understand how you can add on another 10.

00:25:59.000 I was like, well look, if I go kill a mass murderer, does that knock off 5? 1.00

00:26:03.000 The normal penalty is 20, but we're only going to give you 15 because that guy was a real jerk. 0.99

00:26:08.000 Yeah, but if you kill a pregnant lady, they give you it to the bonus round. 1.00

00:26:11.000 You get off scot-free.

00:26:12.000 Imagine that episode of Law& Order.

00:26:15.000 Alright, looks like murder.

00:26:17.000 I'll be doing 20 to life.

00:26:18.000 Sir, he has a lisp.

00:26:19.000 Add another 10.

00:26:20.000 Yeah, well, and we're taking stuff from the UN and UNESCO and those guys over in Europe on, oh, guys, you've got to deal with racism.

00:26:27.000 It's the most racist place on the planet.

00:26:29.000 Yeah, and I think this is important because the hate crime laws, the hate speech laws, what is a hate crime?

00:26:35.000 Like we said, murder doesn't need a footnote.

00:26:36.000 So what you're really doing is serving to legislate thought.

00:26:38.000 You're now serving to legislate...

00:26:40.000 Listen, if you find a motive for a murder, the reason you're looking for a motive is because you're looking to charge somebody with murder.

00:26:45.000 The crime is what matters.

00:26:46.000 In this case, you're looking to use the murder to try and charge someone with a motive.

00:26:51.000 And that's what's so bastardized about it.

00:26:52.000 And it's a game plan that works.

00:26:53.000 We have to go to Ben Shapiro here in a second.

00:26:54.000 It's a game plan that works because you see it here.

00:26:56.000 Oh, hate speech, hate crimes.

00:26:58.000 Therefore, these people are hateful.

00:27:00.000 And you intimidate organizations into agreeing with you.

00:27:02.000 It's the same thing that happens with, right now, the hurricane.

00:27:05.000 You look at what's happening with Harvey.

00:27:06.000 Well, climate change, all scientists agree with me.

00:27:08.000 Therefore, that's what's happening now.

00:27:10.000 Let's politicize it.

00:27:10.000 Even though scientists aren't necessarily saying this could have been stopped by anything Al Gore has proposed.

00:27:15.000 So we'll talk about that more.

00:27:16.000 We'll come back here with Ben Shapiro and then Dean Cain.

00:27:18.000 That'll be fine.

00:27:18.000 Oh.

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00:27:51.000 And today, Darren, a master purple belt, is going to teach Jared the art of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, a self-defense system of techniques that teaches a smaller man how to defeat the larger foe.

00:28:03.000 Are you ready?

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00:28:09.000 Safety first!

00:28:12.000 Okay.

00:28:12.000 Now today, Darren's going to be teaching us a rudimentary technique with a rear naked choke.

00:28:18.000 Now it's important to note, before we even wrap your arms around your opponent's neck, you need to control his body with proper leverage.

00:28:26.000 That means using your legs.

00:28:28.000 Yeah, he's out.

00:28:29.000 What do you mean he's out?

00:28:30.000 You weren't supposed to apply any pressure.

00:28:31.000 I didn't apply any pressure.

00:28:32.000 But did he tap?

00:28:33.000 I didn't teach him to tap.

00:28:35.000 We need to get his legs up to get his... 0.99

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00:28:41.000 Today, we'll be learning a fundamental technique with the rear naked choke.

00:28:45.000 Now, it's important to note that before you even try to perform the choke...

00:28:49.000 He's out again.

00:28:52.000 His neck is just so small.

00:28:54.000 I don't know how this happens again.

00:28:55.000 Let's just...

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00:29:17.000 And now for episode 245 of Game of Thrones Fandom Podcast.

00:29:33.000 So, did you see that this week, Eugene?

00:29:36.000 The episode?

00:29:38.000 Yeah! 0.98

00:29:38.000 Did you see with a lot of boobs in it? 0.98

00:29:40.000 Yeah! 0.80

00:29:41.000 We'll be back with Installment 342 as the Game of Thrones fandom podcast. 0.98

00:30:11.000 Well, f*** me. 0.98

00:30:12.000 Prophet Sullivan! 0.99

00:30:15.000 Code 16!

00:30:17.000 It's happening.

00:30:19.000 It's even worse than I imagined, Private.

00:30:25.000 Sir, yes, sir.

00:30:26.000 The social justice disease has plagued half the globe, and it's become a leviathan greater than we could have ever imagined.

00:30:31.000 Sir, yes, sir.

00:30:33.000 Thank Jesus.

00:30:34.000 We could think if we could ride it out.

00:30:35.000 This is a 30-day food supply for preparewithcrowder.com.

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00:30:40.000 That is true.

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00:30:44.000 30 days seems about the right amount of time we need to ride this out.

00:30:46.000 The good thing about the social justice disease, Private, is that it's a very temporary phase.

00:30:50.000 Sir, yes, sir.

00:30:51.000 Yes.

00:30:55.000 You, uh, feeling okay, Private?

00:30:57.000 Sir, yes, sir.

00:30:59.000 You sure about that, Sullivan?

00:31:00.000 Sir, yes, sir.

00:31:03.000 Private Sullivan, are you hearing that disgraceful salsa doesn't sneeze into my mom's shelter?

00:31:06.000 Sir, no, sir!

00:31:06.000 You haven't been hanging out in any slam poetry nights or single-ordered coffee shops against my orders, have you?

00:31:11.000 Sir, no, sir!

00:31:15.000 But I'm pretty sure systemic racism is still inherent in the system, sir. 0.99

00:31:20.000 And shocking is black! 1.00

00:31:21.000 Oh, no! 0.99

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00:31:38.000 All right, Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro.

00:31:56.000 Glad to have him here of the Ben Shapiro Show at Daily Wire.

00:32:01.000 Careful, we have to have a hazmat suit to clean up the mess here.

00:32:04.000 Ben, how are you today?

00:32:06.000 I am okay.

00:32:07.000 How are you doing?

00:32:08.000 You're wearing the David Copperfield shirt to show off the guns.

00:32:11.000 Exactly right.

00:32:12.000 Nothing up my sleeves.

00:32:14.000 Unleash the python!

00:32:17.000 Okay, don't do that.

00:32:17.000 That's not a gift that we want going around.

00:32:20.000 Ben, so dailywire.com, people need to go, listen to your show.

00:32:23.000 The Tumblr's all right, I guess.

00:32:25.000 Before we get into the personal stuff, what is the most important news story you think of this week?

00:32:29.000 Obviously outside of the hurricane, but the media seems to be making a thing out of all the things that aren't things, if I can articulate it so well, but I think you'll do it better.

00:32:40.000 Well, I mean, aside from it being 106 degrees in our studio and having no air conditioning, I think the biggest story that affects me this week There are a bunch of stories that I think have been overlooked.

00:32:51.000 I think the story about Comey apparently having a memo ready to exonerate Hillary before the evidence was even in, which is just breaking today, that's a fairly big story that a lot of people aren't covering.

00:33:01.000 I think that President Trump pushing for tax reform obviously is a big story that hasn't gotten heavy coverage.

00:33:08.000 Some of the Antifa coverage from Sunday was stunted, even though that was a huge story.

00:33:14.000 I agree with your Game of Thrones movie.

00:33:19.000 No one can take on the Antifa.

00:33:22.000 I think that's right.

00:33:23.000 The Antifa people running by and hitting Game of Thrones characters in full run is, I think, a major issue that we have to take on.

00:33:31.000 But it actually is a huge issue, especially affecting me personally.

00:33:37.000 Berkeley is supposed to have us September 14th.

00:33:40.000 They still have not released tickets.

00:33:42.000 We're two weeks out.

00:33:43.000 They have not released a ticket yet.

00:33:45.000 And we had people down at the ticket office today, and the people at the ticket office legitimately ran away from the people who were there to ask questions.

00:33:51.000 Like, they got up and they just ran away, apparently.

00:33:53.000 It was like in Jingle All the Way, where they hide behind the toy shelves.

00:33:57.000 Like, oh no, it's a stampede of people!

00:33:59.000 It's a Disney film!

00:34:00.000 Let's hide! 0.97

00:34:00.000 Only it actually happened. 0.97

00:34:02.000 I wish that I understood the reference, but I've never seen Jingle All The Way, because no one has ever seen Jingle All The Way.

00:34:07.000 You live a very sad life.

00:34:10.000 You and your t-shirts.

00:34:12.000 Alright, go ahead, continue.

00:34:13.000 The tax reform is not a bad thing, just horrible timing.

00:34:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:34:21.000 I mean, I don't know why President Trump decided to do that this week.

00:34:24.000 There's also the announcement that he might revoke DACA. Again, I think right now, Trump has a winning news cycle for him, just from a political point of view.

00:34:30.000 Put aside the human tragedy of all of this, but we're political analysts.

00:34:33.000 That means we always look at sort of the political fallout of this stuff.

00:34:36.000 And Trump has done, by pretty much any measure, a decent job with the hurricane.

00:34:40.000 He has done a good job.

00:34:42.000 The administration did what they had to do.

00:34:44.000 They coordinated with the people on the ground.

00:34:45.000 There haven't been a lot of complaints about federal malfeasance.

00:34:48.000 He did the obligatory, here I am to show that I care trip to Texas. 0.85

00:34:52.000 I hate that kind of crap, by the way, because it seems to me that the president has a TV and it would be better if we used all the resources on the ground to actually help the people on the ground as opposed to prepping the ground for Trump to arrive. 0.97

00:35:02.000 I hated it when Obama did it. 0.99

00:35:04.000 I hated it when Bush did it.

00:35:05.000 I don't like it when Trump does it either.

00:35:06.000 But that's not on Trump.

00:35:07.000 That's on the media that insists that Trump do that sort of stuff.

00:35:09.000 I think it's a rallying symbol for people in Texas.

00:35:12.000 You know, listen, they can maybe get a second win.

00:35:15.000 I can see how it's valuable just for morale, but it's certainly not of the utmost importance.

00:35:20.000 Can you believe she wore heels to get on the aircraft and then left with sneakers?

00:35:25.000 Yeah, I can.

00:35:26.000 I do that in almost every flight.

00:35:28.000 Yeah, my wife does that every week at synagogue. 1.00

00:35:30.000 Every week at synagogue, right?

00:35:31.000 So I understand the changing of the shoes.

00:35:33.000 It's not that big a deal.

00:35:34.000 But it just demonstrates the lengths to which the media will go to try and turn a win into a loss for President Trump.

00:35:39.000 It's not going to work here because there's no loss.

00:35:41.000 I mean, he hasn't done anything wrong here.

00:35:43.000 Again, this is coming from somebody who is more than willing to smack him when I think he's doing something wrong.

00:35:47.000 And I don't see any evidence that he's done anything that really deserves criticism so much in the aftermath of the hurricane.

00:35:52.000 Absolutely.

00:35:53.000 And I think Governor Abbott deserves a lot of credit.

00:35:55.000 This guy has been very active and doing a really good job here.

00:35:57.000 For all the political mudslinging, people have done a good...

00:35:59.000 And listen, outside of media, outside of New York, LA, and DC, most Americans have come together to try and do the right thing.

00:36:05.000 All right.

00:36:05.000 So we don't want to...

00:36:06.000 We still want to keep people entertained.

00:36:08.000 Give them some relief here.

00:36:09.000 Some people were asking, how do I know Ben?

00:36:12.000 How do we know each other?

00:36:13.000 Because we've known each other for a long time.

00:36:15.000 So I figured, let's go into the timeline here.

00:36:18.000 I don't know if you remember, we first met.

00:36:20.000 Do you remember who introduced us?

00:36:23.000 I mean, I assume it was Andrew Breitbart because, you know, I was in L.A. and Andrew introduced everyone.

00:36:28.000 Like, legitimately, Andrew introduced everyone to everyone.

00:36:30.000 It's true.

00:36:31.000 But the first time I remember actually meeting you in person was when you came to my condo because you needed a place to crash.

00:36:40.000 No, I don't think I ever crashed at your condo.

00:36:43.000 No, you had to get a flight stopover.

00:36:45.000 You remember?

00:36:46.000 You had to come over and you needed a place to store your stuff for a little while.

00:36:51.000 It sounds like me, but I don't remember this.

00:36:54.000 Seriously, the reason I remember this is because you insisted on showing me your Brazilian jiu-jitsu skills.

00:36:59.000 No, that was later.

00:37:00.000 I remember that because I remember where you lived.

00:37:02.000 I did some research and it was right near the Ralph Macchio apartment complex from Karate Kid.

00:37:07.000 This is right.

00:37:07.000 And I walked up and I'm like, you're like, really?

00:37:09.000 I said, how do you not know this and you live here?

00:37:11.000 I was out of my mind.

00:37:12.000 It sounds like Owen Benjamin telling me, he's like, did Carter show you all the gas stations?

00:37:17.000 Is that a thing?

00:37:18.000 Yeah, I was like, yeah, because I really like the gas stations.

00:37:20.000 I remember you being so pumped about the Karate Kid.

00:37:23.000 I just remember you going out there and charging out in the middle of the street and doing the crane in the middle of the street for no reason.

00:37:28.000 I was like, what is going on?

00:37:29.000 But before we met, you were actually my first lawyer.

00:37:32.000 So people don't know.

00:37:32.000 Andrew Breitbart introduced us.

00:37:35.000 This was in 2009, I think.

00:37:36.000 And then you negotiated.

00:37:37.000 I was like, listen, I don't know.

00:37:38.000 PJTV came and offered me a contract.

00:37:40.000 You're a Jewish lawyer.

00:37:41.000 I've heard you guys are the best.

00:37:43.000 Can you do this for me?

00:37:44.000 And so you negotiated a contract with PJTV for me.

00:37:47.000 A lot of people don't realize you were the one who handled my Fox contract as well.

00:37:51.000 Yeah.

00:37:51.000 Read it over.

00:37:52.000 And even though I don't necessarily – you're necessarily an entertainment lawyer.

00:37:55.000 I was like, listen, just make sure I'm not getting screwed on these deals.

00:37:58.000 And you tweaked a couple of things.

00:37:59.000 Yeah, I mean a contract is a contract.

00:38:01.000 So I knew enough to actually read a contract and see where the potholes were.

00:38:04.000 I mean for you, the big issue – not to get into your legal background, but the big issue was always exclusivity.

00:38:08.000 What you were allowed to do outside of Fox and what Fox forced you to do inside of Fox.

00:38:13.000 It was the same thing with PJ. So that stuff at least I knew how to read for because I'd had the same issues myself.

00:38:17.000 So it wasn't really that big a deal.

00:38:18.000 That's a big thing people need to know because the reason we're – this is a show, for example, when I was at Fox, I was always pushing for to do something like this.

00:38:24.000 And so we were – Ben actually protected me in a lot of ways where I was always able to do what I wanted outside of wherever else I was working.

00:38:31.000 They didn't necessarily like it.

00:38:33.000 Consider? 0.99

00:38:33.000 Because they're tits. 0.99

00:38:34.000 I consider breasts. 0.99

00:38:35.000 I would have gotten much more air time at the Fox News if I had breasts. 1.00

00:38:39.000 So this is what happened.

00:38:40.000 I don't know if you remember.

00:38:41.000 And I used to do your show.

00:38:42.000 For people who don't know, you had a show in Orlando on the weekends.

00:38:45.000 And I used to do this show in Orlando, and we were the first, among the first contributors ever, it was before it was Breitbart, it was Big Hollywood, for people who don't know.

00:38:54.000 There was you, I came in just because Andrew, long story anyways, it was you, Adam Baldwin, I know myself, John Nolte, there were only a handful who contributed from the beginning.

00:39:04.000 And I don't know, does this mean anything to you?

00:39:06.000 For people out there, this is not, Ben does not have any kind of talking points here.

00:39:09.000 Does Crowder's Three Rings Circus ring a bell to you?

00:39:15.000 No.

00:39:15.000 This is before Lauder with Crowder was ever a thing.

00:39:18.000 You're like, well, listen, I can see that, you know, you're a popular contributor at Big Hollywood.

00:39:21.000 And I remember him sitting there.

00:39:22.000 He's like, and I think like a good site would be Crowder's three rings.

00:39:24.000 That would be the umbrella site for where you do your own content.

00:39:26.000 And I want equity.

00:39:30.000 Did I really say that?

00:39:31.000 Yes, you did.

00:39:32.000 And by the way, if I had gotten equity right now, I'd be a much wealthier man.

00:39:36.000 Look at you with your nice studio and the neon in back and the Conan the Barbarian sign and the whole deal.

00:39:41.000 I don't have the silk shirts, though.

00:39:42.000 I don't have the silk shirts.

00:39:44.000 Well, I mean, Jewish lawyer.

00:39:46.000 Yes.

00:39:46.000 Come on.

00:39:47.000 In Orlando, you had your show Primetime – not show.

00:39:49.000 You had your book, Primetime Propaganda, and this is before you really had – you were on – You came to the book party for that, and then you took the photos, and this is another one of our bad memories.

00:39:59.000 Steve and I have a bunch of great memories and bad memories all wrapped together, so one of our bad memories is that you and Jordan did the photos for that, and then that was the only photo I had with Andrew Breitbart, and it is gone forever.

00:40:08.000 I have no photos with Andrew anywhere.

00:40:11.000 Yes, it's amazing.

00:40:12.000 I knew Andrew for years.

00:40:13.000 Well, that's not me.

00:40:14.000 That's not my brother.

00:40:16.000 No, but it's one of those weird things.

00:40:19.000 I'm sure that you and I probably have no photos together, even though we've seen each other a bunch of times and we're on your show together and my show together.

00:40:25.000 Aside from split screens, when you're friends with somebody, how often do you actually say, let's snap a photo together, especially two guys.

00:40:32.000 That just doesn't happen.

00:40:33.000 My wife has pictures with all her friends, but I'm not sure I've ever taken a picture with my father once.

00:40:38.000 It's not a dude thing, really.

00:40:40.000 Unless you're embarrassing someone. 0.96

00:40:41.000 Then you take the picture when you really embarrass them, and then the only picture you have is like, Oh, it's my balls on my friend's face. 0.95

00:40:46.000 That's not one for the scrapbook. 0.88

00:40:48.000 Well, you and I, neither of us wanted that picture out there.

00:40:52.000 No, no.

00:40:52.000 So here's what takes me to the next thing.

00:40:54.000 This is all true.

00:40:55.000 There's a long and short history, and then it gets to a cold spell.

00:40:57.000 We'll talk about that.

00:40:58.000 So I did go over to Ben's place, I remember, because he actually submitted me.

00:41:02.000 It was for a radio gig.

00:41:05.000 And he may or may not remember this, but this is actually where I didn't...

00:41:08.000 Oh, you said submit, and I was thinking like...

00:41:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:10.000 He put me up.

00:41:11.000 He grappled you.

00:41:11.000 He recommended me.

00:41:12.000 He grappled you.

00:41:12.000 And I bungled it.

00:41:14.000 It was so bad.

00:41:15.000 He had this little sound system in his room.

00:41:17.000 And this is after I remember showing him jujitsu and I did a guillotine choke on him.

00:41:20.000 He was like, ah, my hernia!

00:41:21.000 And I was like, well, you have to tell me you have a hernia.

00:41:23.000 I didn't know.

00:41:24.000 I wouldn't choke you if I knew you had a hernia.

00:41:27.000 And then I did this, and I don't know if you remember, it was one of those, it was a radio gig, like, news, it was like, and this is the news this morning, this happened, it couldn't be less me, and you risked your reputation and recommended me, and I knew as soon as it was done, I couldn't even look you in the eye, it was so bad.

00:41:44.000 Do you remember that?

00:41:45.000 I don't remember the fallout, but it's been years since you were on that radio station, so maybe they remember the fallout.

00:41:51.000 Yeah, I was like, oh man, I feel so bad that I disappointed Ben.

00:41:56.000 He put me up for that, and I just remember it was scripted.

00:41:59.000 You had to read the script, and they were like, we don't want any input.

00:42:02.000 We want no input.

00:42:03.000 And then all it was was I was reading the script, and I'm like, ah, input, input, input.

00:42:06.000 Like, thanks, we'll give you a call, kid.

00:42:08.000 And they hung up, and I had to walk out of the room, and you're like, so?

00:42:11.000 How did it go?

00:42:13.000 And I said, well, let's go back to choking you. 1.00

00:42:15.000 I think that'll be more pleasant.

00:42:19.000 And this is also how you lost that role in There Will Be Blood.

00:42:21.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:42:23.000 If I ruin your radio show.

00:42:26.000 So, um, and then we, now, then we didn't, we weren't, a lot of people who came into this later, you and I didn't interact as much for a while.

00:42:34.000 And I've talked about it on this show, but I think, you know, you were at Breitbart at this point, and they kind of did this...

00:42:39.000 Someone there did kind of a hit piece on when I left Fox saying, oh, he was fired for not being funny.

00:42:45.000 And I remember there was no byline in the article and no source.

00:42:50.000 And all I knew was the producers who I spoke with at Fox were like, no, none of us ever said this.

00:42:54.000 And so for a while, even...

00:42:56.000 I was leery of anyone who was working there, and you were still there for a little bit.

00:43:01.000 So I don't know, for people who don't know, kind of explain that time period, because you had your own stuff going on.

00:43:06.000 Yeah, I mean, so this was late 2013, and Breitbart had come into conflict with a bunch of people who had worked with, came into conflict with you, came into conflict with Dana Lash.

00:43:14.000 There were a lot of people who really disassociated sort of from anyone working with Breitbart for some reasons that I think are probably not bad reasons.

00:43:21.000 And by late 2013, I had already started my own project on the side.

00:43:25.000 I was already launching Truth Revolt, which was sort of the precursor site almost for Daily Wire with the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

00:43:31.000 And so I was basically out of the editorial chain by the time that article was written.

00:43:35.000 That article, Truth or Vote launched like October 7th, 2013.

00:43:39.000 I think that article, you sent me the link today, I think the article was like a couple of weeks after that.

00:43:43.000 So I was already sort of out of the loop as far as editorial because I was running my own site at that point.

00:43:48.000 And then by January 2014, I was completely out of the editorial loop at Breitbart altogether.

00:43:52.000 I was writing like one piece a day for them.

00:43:54.000 But I wasn't intimately involved in editorial at all.

00:43:57.000 But yeah, I mean, there was a point there where you and I didn't speak for...

00:44:00.000 Yeah, they use you more as a figure at that point because you people at this point, you were developing reputation.

00:44:04.000 You were getting more of a public, you know, I guess you were getting more public airplay.

00:44:08.000 And so, like you said, you were doing one piece a day, but I was going, well, he's their main guy and there's this article.

00:44:13.000 And I know that I know at least portions of it were flat out untrue.

00:44:17.000 And so there was this miscommunication for a long time.

00:44:19.000 I want to say at least a year, Ben and I, we weren't enemies ever, but we just didn't talk because it wasn't a risk I wanted to take.

00:44:27.000 Right, exactly.

00:44:28.000 And then I can't remember what prompted us to start texting each other again.

00:44:32.000 It must have been after I left Breitbart.

00:44:34.000 No, it was before.

00:44:34.000 I'll bet it was probably right after.

00:44:35.000 It was before.

00:44:36.000 It was before because, yeah, you had been on the show.

00:44:38.000 I remember this is the kind of timeline where I started coming in.

00:44:41.000 Yeah, you started coming in.

00:44:42.000 Yeah.

00:44:42.000 And I was like, yeah, Ben's a really smart guy.

00:44:45.000 I was like, just be careful with him.

00:44:47.000 Don't let him on the inside track here at all because I don't necessarily know.

00:44:50.000 Because again, I didn't know.

00:44:51.000 I just knew this stuff happened at Breitbart.

00:44:53.000 Andrew and I were friends.

00:44:53.000 You and Andrew were friends.

00:44:55.000 And the whole thing changed.

00:44:56.000 And all of Andrew's closest friends, it was just a bunch of shrapnel.

00:44:59.000 And no one knew up from down.

00:45:02.000 That's right.

00:45:03.000 Yeah, Andrew was the glue that held the entire thing together, and then when he died and the site changed in a variety of ways, that definitely fractured a lot of relationships for sure.

00:45:11.000 And then you texted me out of the blue, and you started asking about the article, and I didn't even remember the article.

00:45:16.000 Yeah.

00:45:16.000 And we had a long text conversation, and finally I was like, well, I don't really remember that, but I'm sorry that happened, and obviously that's not what I think of you since...

00:45:26.000 You know, I've been pushing your stuff on our sites for years.

00:45:29.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 So, you know, on Truth Revolt and Daily Wire, I mean, Daily Wire, we post your videos virtually all the time.

00:45:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:34.000 And even though your Tumblr sucks, we promote you all the time.

00:45:37.000 And even before that, you know, with the primetime propaganda, this was a book. 0.90

00:45:40.000 I just thought it was a great book.

00:45:41.000 I still recommend people go read it because a lot of people probably haven't read it because that was before you became immensely popular.

00:45:47.000 So they've probably read some of your newest stuff.

00:45:48.000 Right.

00:45:48.000 But that I would put amongst some of the most important pieces of anything that you've written.

00:45:54.000 Yeah, I appreciate it.

00:45:55.000 Yeah, that was the book party you came to.

00:45:57.000 It was for primetime propaganda, which was sort of the underground Hollywood debunking all of their mythology about not being a political book.

00:46:03.000 And by the way, thank you for the reference to the Tumblr.

00:46:05.000 It is just glorious.

00:46:07.000 It's fantastic if you like to...

00:46:08.000 We simultaneously...

00:46:10.000 If you like asbestos, it's a throwback.

00:46:12.000 It does struggle well.

00:46:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:13.000 Well, I mean, the nice thing is that you'll die in luxury of your cancer holding this in your withered hand.

00:46:19.000 That's the idea behind this tumbler.

00:46:22.000 I appreciate your honesty.

00:46:24.000 We recommend, obviously, we recommend your crappy mug as well, and we push your stuff on our show, too.

00:46:29.000 His idea is cropped out.

00:46:30.000 We have a good symbiotic relationship, I think, but it's...

00:46:32.000 Yeah, we had to get beyond the poisonous time.

00:46:34.000 Well, that's the whole thing.

00:46:35.000 I think it's an important lesson just as far as people out there.

00:46:38.000 Again, Ben and I were never on the outs.

00:46:40.000 Like Jared knows, I was just like, just be careful because I don't know what's happening.

00:46:44.000 And I was with that with everyone who was from the whole kind of Breitbart fallout.

00:46:47.000 Because there were only a handful of people who were invited directly to Andrew's funeral.

00:46:51.000 And MRA wasn't able to make it.

00:46:53.000 Funny enough, because I was actually shooting a pilot for an MMA show.

00:46:58.000 which then got bought by the UFC, but they scrapped this, like Fuel TV said, "We will never do MMA!

00:47:02.000 It'll be cars and extreme sports!" And I got, I remember when this happened, and I didn't make it to the funeral, but Adam Baldwin saying, "You know what, if you really, if you're, it's down to you and one guy and it's the screen test, Andrew would have wanted you to do it." And I was the only person, I think, who was invited there who never really worked for Andrew.

00:47:19.000 I wrote consistently, I constantly, We were just friends.

00:47:24.000 You know, he was just a supporter.

00:47:25.000 And so it was a really weird time.

00:47:26.000 But for people out there kind of hearing that, you know, it just goes to show you, just talk.

00:47:30.000 You know, you see it with families.

00:47:31.000 In this case, it wasn't so severe.

00:47:32.000 But if we had just talked about it, a lot of this would have been cleared up more quickly.

00:47:36.000 I love a colleague.

00:47:36.000 Just talk to him.

00:47:38.000 Why don't you just talk to him?

00:47:41.000 Yeah, not to get all biblical and everything, but there is a Jewish concept beyond making money that is excellent.

00:47:46.000 And that concept is that you're supposed to always try and attribute the best possible motives to people until you're proved wrong.

00:47:53.000 Yes.

00:47:53.000 And I think that holds on both sides of this particular one.

00:47:55.000 And then the very next verse says, attribute the best possible motives because it's immensely profitable!

00:48:00.000 All right.

00:48:02.000 And so this is what led us through.

00:48:04.000 People are saying, what's your story?

00:48:05.000 It's been back to 2009.

00:48:06.000 He was my first lawyer because it was the only lawyer that I knew.

00:48:09.000 He was very smart.

00:48:10.000 We kind of didn't talk for a while.

00:48:12.000 And now he's back here, and I think he's one of the smartest minds out there.

00:48:14.000 What are we going to say?

00:48:15.000 Ben, let's see it one last time.

00:48:17.000 Let's see the Tumblr.

00:48:18.000 Yeah, let's see that Tumblr.

00:48:20.000 Here it is.

00:48:21.000 Looks great.

00:48:22.000 Yeah.

00:48:24.000 What are you doing to it?

00:48:25.000 This is the thing.

00:48:27.000 We're ahead of you in the programming ability, so we can see things that you can't.

00:48:31.000 Now it is the great mug war of our time.

00:48:33.000 We'll see what happens with it.

00:48:35.000 But Ben Shapiro, Ben Shapiro Show at Daily Wire.

00:48:37.000 You can listen for free on iTunes and, of course, subscribe to get the video stuff so you can see his wonderful appointment and his Simon Cowell t-shirts.

00:48:44.000 Ben, thank you very much, sir.

00:48:47.000 Here's to hopefully many more years.

00:48:50.000 Thanks a lot.

00:48:51.000 Oh, asbestos.

00:48:52.000 Hey, Gavin, we're live here.

00:49:05.000 I really don't have a lot of time right now.

00:49:07.000 I know, but you called me.

00:49:13.000 What's up?

00:49:15.000 Yeah, I know.

00:49:20.000 Yeah, I know.

00:49:25.000 Yeah, no, she drinks both coffee and beer.

00:49:28.000 I told you, they did this with Terry Crews.

00:49:30.000 They offer these contracts.

00:49:30.000 They don't plan on fulfilling them.

00:49:31.000 They do it all the time.

00:49:34.000 No, no, listen, that's what I've been telling you.

00:49:41.000 That's what I think. 1.00

00:49:46.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:49:50.000 Josephine, Gavin McGinnis gonna be doing a CRTV! I'm gonna finally get it with my mom club! 0.99

00:49:55.000 Who?

00:49:55.000 Gavin McGinnis, Josephine!

00:49:57.000 I've only been demanding him all year!

00:49:59.000 They finally don't see my hashtag!

00:50:01.000 Probably a prank.

00:50:02.000 It ain't been enough.

00:50:03.000 No, Josephine, it ain't been officially enough!

00:50:04.000 They don't know that their microphone's on!

00:50:07.000 It's what we call a hot mic!

00:50:09.000 That Gavin McGinnis is sexist.

00:50:11.000 Hey, Josephine, he ain't sexist!

00:50:12.000 You just say that because they're angry and facts!

00:50:15.000 You think he's targeting you! 1.00

00:50:16.000 You can't see through the fucking screen! 1.00

00:50:19.000 Trust me, you're gonna love it, okay? 1.00

00:50:45.000 Allah Akbar!

00:50:49.000 Sweet Mary and Joseph.

00:50:53.000 Private Sullivan!

00:50:54.000 get to the fallout shelter I always knew those ragheads would make it to our shore Sullivan Sir, yes sir. 1.00

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00:51:22.000 Where's all the water, Private?

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00:51:28.000 Sullivan?

00:51:31.000 Do you mean to tell me that we four want the most basic human necessity in exchange for caffeinated sugary soda pop?

00:51:36.000 I thought we'd need our energy, sir.

00:51:38.000 Like the terrorists?

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00:52:00.000 That explains the trouble that I'm always in.

00:52:05.000 That explains the trouble that I'm always in.

00:52:13.000 All right, glad to have our next guest.

00:52:14.000 Look at all the tweets.

00:52:15.000 All of a sudden, the lines are lighting up.

00:52:17.000 Lightening up.

00:52:18.000 If we actually had phone lines, but with ladies. 1.00

00:52:20.000 With ladies who, what's funny is Dean, well, at real Dean Cain, Mr. 0.95

00:52:25.000 Dean Cain, and you're scheduled this time.

00:52:27.000 Good to have you on.

00:52:28.000 Absolutely.

00:52:29.000 Jared, what's up, man?

00:52:31.000 We'll deal with that after.

00:52:32.000 It's fine.

00:52:32.000 The ladies who love you, I mean, like, there is this whole fan group.

00:52:37.000 And I don't even think they're necessarily politically conservative, so this show may not be up their alley.

00:52:40.000 But I'll get direct messages like, Dean Zahn, you need to let us know so we can make sure to notify our fan club members.

00:52:48.000 What's the relationship like with people like that?

00:52:50.000 It's my mom and my sister.

00:52:52.000 Yeah.

00:52:53.000 It's pretty simple.

00:52:54.000 Which is odd because they get hyperly sexual very quickly.

00:52:58.000 Oh, that's my cousin.

00:53:00.000 Whatever.

00:53:02.000 Listen, if there's people that are fans like that, bless them, and I'm very happy for that.

00:53:07.000 Doing these Comic Cons and things like that that I'll do sometimes around the country or around the world, people will say very nice things.

00:53:15.000 You play a superhero for...

00:53:18.000 For a number of years, sometimes an impressionable youth, and they'll hang on to you forever, and I'm okay with that.

00:53:23.000 It surprises me, though, because you're very outspoken politically.

00:53:26.000 I mean, we've always talked about this.

00:53:28.000 He doesn't hold back at all, which is surprising, because then when I see you on the Today Show and they're playing, is it rude or not rude?

00:53:34.000 And it's softball, like, Double dipping!

00:53:36.000 I'm like, do you realize what this guy, like, you would hate what he stands for, but he's such a nice guy.

00:53:42.000 He's looking to lose.

00:53:42.000 He's already Dean Cain.

00:53:44.000 I mean, yeah, I guess it's interesting.

00:53:45.000 They probably wouldn't if they actually got into a real discussion with me about the politics of it.

00:53:49.000 On the face of it, they'd be so upset.

00:53:51.000 Oh, how could you possibly say this, that, or the other thing?

00:53:53.000 Then you'd talk for five minutes.

00:53:54.000 They'd go, oh, that makes sense.

00:53:55.000 That's interesting.

00:53:56.000 Okay, I can see where you're coming from. 1.00

00:53:57.000 Or just, I hate you, Nazi! 1.00

00:54:00.000 Call me! 1.00

00:54:01.000 That's Twitter.

00:54:02.000 I get that on Twitter all the time.

00:54:04.000 Do you know what a Nazi is?

00:54:06.000 Do you really understand what a Nazi is?

00:54:08.000 Yeah.

00:54:09.000 And I'm a white supremacist who was born with the name Tanaka.

00:54:14.000 Yes, exactly.

00:54:15.000 You probably have a zero somewhere in your lineage.

00:54:20.000 Okay, so you've been doing the Today Show.

00:54:23.000 Hopefully, if people want to see Dean Cain on there more, tweet at RealDeanCain, tweet the Today Show, and see him doing it.

00:54:30.000 Yes.

00:54:31.000 I enjoy doing that.

00:54:32.000 That's great.

00:54:33.000 That's fun phrasing.

00:54:34.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:54:34.000 Not to see him doing it.

00:54:35.000 See him doing the show.

00:54:36.000 I would love to see you hosting a show, if only to get one of the good guys in there.

00:54:40.000 But you were talking about this right before the break, and I said, save it for air, right during the break.

00:54:44.000 You said you've been traveling a lot.

00:54:46.000 Go ahead.

00:54:47.000 This is the thing that blew me away.

00:54:49.000 This summer I've been all over the world.

00:54:52.000 So I was down in Australia, I was in Sydney, I was in Perth, I was in Brisbane, Gold Coast, Byron Bay, back over to Europe, London two or three times, back to Spain.

00:55:02.000 I cannot tell you, well I can tell you it's probably in the dozens, the numbers of people who come up to me and go...

00:55:08.000 Love you on Louder with Crowder.

00:55:10.000 Love you on Louder with Crowder.

00:55:11.000 Across the globe.

00:55:14.000 Across the globe, they're like, oh, we're watching.

00:55:16.000 It's so funny.

00:55:17.000 It's so good.

00:55:18.000 It's so smart.

00:55:19.000 And I'm like, you live in Perth, Western Australia.

00:55:22.000 And they're like, absolutely.

00:55:24.000 In Perth itself?

00:55:26.000 20 people.

00:55:27.000 Just quietly on this line.

00:55:28.000 Love you on Loud with Crowder.

00:55:29.000 I'm getting like, can you sign it, you know, to Superman, blah, blah, blah.

00:55:32.000 I'm like, okay, then I get like, you know, a Loud with Crowder mug.

00:55:35.000 I'm like, what?

00:55:36.000 That's great.

00:55:37.000 You know, I don't know what else is crazy.

00:55:38.000 Edward the sound guy didn't get, well, I think we fixed it.

00:55:40.000 Jordan Peterson was just calling.

00:55:41.000 I think we accidentally double booked the both of you.

00:55:43.000 Don't worry about it.

00:55:44.000 Jordan can wait.

00:55:45.000 We got Superman.

00:55:46.000 Yes.

00:55:47.000 He's a bright guy.

00:55:48.000 If you haven't been following Jordan Peterson, though, too, the left absolutely despises him because he— I think that's a big thing with you is you disarm a lot of them.

00:55:56.000 Now, I know—listen, you're a nice guy, and I appreciate the compliment, and I'm always surprised when people abroad, that's something new.

00:56:02.000 There are far more conservatives across the world.

00:56:04.000 They just didn't really know they were conservative.

00:56:06.000 They thought Republican—no one's as right-wing as the United States.

00:56:08.000 Then when they kind of started learning some ideas now with new media and YouTube exploding— They're open, yeah.

00:56:14.000 They're open.

00:56:14.000 They're going— Oh, okay.

00:56:16.000 But I'm all through London.

00:56:16.000 I mean, London, 50 people.

00:56:19.000 I was looking around for a second.

00:56:22.000 I was like, is there a camera?

00:56:23.000 Is Crowder over here?

00:56:26.000 I mean, they've been set up or these guys are big fans.

00:56:30.000 I know.

00:56:30.000 By the way, I've done other stuff.

00:56:32.000 Have you seen my recent Hallmark Christmas film?

00:56:34.000 That's nothing to shake a stick at. 0.94

00:56:38.000 Darn right. 0.95

00:56:39.000 They don't care. 0.99

00:56:39.000 They're much better. 0.99

00:56:41.000 Although the one with the kids, when you adopted the kids, that one was great.

00:56:45.000 That was great.

00:56:46.000 I keep Hallmark on a loop when it's around Christmas time.

00:56:49.000 Let me ask you this.

00:56:51.000 We were talking about the Houston Charlie Hebdo magazine cover, Politico.

00:56:55.000 Listen, I don't think that you and I are in the business of being offended.

00:56:59.000 But here's one thing that I do think.

00:57:01.000 When you look at Hebdo and it paints Houston as Nazis and you see the Tea Party or Don't Tread on Me, this other political thing they tweet out, you're a nice guy.

00:57:09.000 But do you see in the entertainment industry in L.A. and in New York, you're doing the Today Show, you don't have to name names, the contempt for everyone outside of the coast?

00:57:18.000 Because I think that's what's happening with new media.

00:57:20.000 It's not that people are offended.

00:57:21.000 It just shows utter contempt for people in middle America and their views.

00:57:25.000 I do see a lot of that.

00:57:27.000 I see that when I say, oh, I support this, that, or the other thing, or I support President Trump or this policy that he has.

00:57:33.000 I don't support every policy that President Trump has.

00:57:35.000 I don't support every policy I have.

00:57:37.000 I say this all the time. 1.00

00:57:38.000 You know, there's things you think about, you're like, oh, that was stupid. 1.00

00:57:40.000 That's not so great. 0.99

00:57:41.000 So I talk about this.

00:57:42.000 When I first say that, they're like, oh!

00:57:45.000 What did you?

00:57:45.000 I'm like, well, let's think about it.

00:57:47.000 Let's talk about this, that, the other thing.

00:57:48.000 And you start talking, and then you find, you know, you have some common ground.

00:57:51.000 But it's like getting past that first hurdle is like literally taking a tennis racket and smacking him in the face.

00:57:57.000 Yeah.

00:57:57.000 The shock on the face.

00:57:59.000 So, look, for me, and I said this on the Today Show, the thing about Houston that's so amazing...

00:58:06.000 It's the way people are coming together.

00:58:08.000 And that's the story to me.

00:58:09.000 Look what they're doing.

00:58:10.000 First of all, the government's doing a heck of a job.

00:58:12.000 Governor Abbott said they've done an A-plus job.

00:58:15.000 They're working their tails off.

00:58:16.000 It's the most expensive situation.

00:58:18.000 I mean, Houston's like, what is it, two inches above sea level anyway?

00:58:20.000 I mean, it's a tough place.

00:58:21.000 It floods a lot.

00:58:22.000 And it's horrible.

00:58:23.000 But what people are doing and the way they're coming together...

00:58:27.000 You know, Texans, you guys are in Texas.

00:58:29.000 Texans are unbelievable, and in a crisis, you want some Texans.

00:58:33.000 I want Texans, I'll tell you that right now. 0.74

00:58:35.000 It's not only a contempt for middle America, I think you seized ignorance to know Houston's a pretty diverse city, and Texas as a whole is not.

00:58:42.000 Houston actually surprised people one year.

00:58:44.000 I don't know if it was 2004 or if it was 2008.

00:58:46.000 I think it was 2004.

00:58:47.000 Someone can correct me on this because I don't want to make this claim, but someone can show me.

00:58:51.000 There was one year where it surprised me.

00:58:52.000 Austin went red and Houston went blue.

00:58:54.000 And I don't think a lot of people realize that, that Houston is actually surprisingly metropolitan and surprisingly mixed and not super conservative.

00:59:03.000 You think Joel Osteen, you think megachurches.

00:59:05.000 So they're really mocking a lot of their own.

00:59:07.000 In cultural diversity, there's a lot more cultural diversity in Texas than people think.

00:59:10.000 It's not just a bunch of rednecks with Confederate flags running around here. 0.77

00:59:14.000 No.

00:59:14.000 First of all, you don't see a Confederate flag in Texas that often.

00:59:17.000 I'm sorry.

00:59:18.000 You see a Lone Star flag.

00:59:19.000 I've seen a lot of Confederate flags.

00:59:21.000 I was like...

00:59:22.000 A confederate flag in Texas?

00:59:23.000 I'm like, no.

00:59:24.000 I wouldn't see that.

00:59:25.000 It's pretty rare.

00:59:26.000 But, I mean, that was a horribly inaccurate cartoon.

00:59:31.000 Now, that doesn't make me angry. 1.00

00:59:32.000 I just go, that's just stupid. 1.00

00:59:34.000 It's stupid. 1.00

00:59:35.000 It's just dumb. 1.00

00:59:36.000 It's a dumb thing to say. 0.99

00:59:37.000 It's not funny. 0.98

00:59:38.000 You're making a point that isn't really a point.

00:59:40.000 Yeah, and it's not risky at all.

00:59:41.000 To me, what really bothers me is just the laziness of the comedy.

00:59:44.000 Like, hey guys, aren't they Nazis? 0.66

00:59:46.000 Okay, alright, what else you got?

00:59:48.000 There's no risk there.

00:59:49.000 And I think actually Charlie Hebdo, someone came out there and apologized about the Mohammed thing. 0.84

00:59:53.000 Right off the bat, they were kind of, they were a little bit insolent, saying, no, we're not going to apologize.

00:59:56.000 And then later on, I can't remember what it is that they did, but someone walked it back.

01:00:00.000 I'm going, really?

01:00:02.000 The last thing they should do is apologize for a Mohammed cartoon. 0.95

01:00:05.000 Yeah, I know.

01:00:06.000 Sorry.

01:00:06.000 I think that's wrong.

01:00:07.000 And here's what's crazy.

01:00:08.000 Just drawing Muhammad, even in a flattering way, is considered far more offensive to Muslims than it is even to Texans to draw them drowning in a flood in a mocking way.

01:00:17.000 That's the problem.

01:00:18.000 The problem with the drawing Muhammad thing is you don't get to pick the rules by which I play. 0.59

01:00:22.000 I can draw whatever I want.

01:00:24.000 It doesn't matter what your religion says.

01:00:26.000 And they shouldn't apologize for the Hurricane Harvey drawings either.

01:00:29.000 No, they shouldn't apologize.

01:00:30.000 It's just lazy.

01:00:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:00:32.000 It's just lazy and stupid. 1.00

01:00:33.000 I look at it like I'm... 1.00

01:00:35.000 Not even worth my time. 0.99

01:00:36.000 I mean, if you didn't ask me specifically right now, I wouldn't have commented on it because I was like, that's just stupid. 0.95

01:00:40.000 Well, it's just one of the top trends along with apparently, was it Macomb? 0.96

01:00:44.000 What county is it we're in now? 1.00

01:00:45.000 We only shoot black people. 1.00

01:00:46.000 Oh yeah, we only shoot black people. 1.00

01:00:48.000 That was Georgia. 1.00

01:00:48.000 Macomb is in Detroit where I was born. 1.00

01:00:51.000 Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.

01:00:52.000 In Georgia, you saw this video.

01:00:54.000 We haven't even talked about it this show, but I will say good.

01:00:56.000 I haven't seen the video.

01:00:57.000 I saw the headline. 0.97

01:00:58.000 Anyone who doesn't know that this is clearly sarcasm is willfully lying or functionally retarded. 1.00

01:01:03.000 The lady says, well, I'm just really nervous because I've been pulled over.

01:01:06.000 And the cop goes, well, haven't you heard? 0.99

01:01:08.000 We only shoot black people in this county. 1.00

01:01:09.000 Haven't you seen the videos? 1.00

01:01:10.000 All we do is kill black people out here. 1.00

01:01:13.000 Shouldn't joke like that because on paper it looks really bad when you just read it. 1.00

01:01:18.000 That's not a good headline.

01:01:19.000 Damning, some might say, on paper.

01:01:21.000 I read the transcript before I watched the video.

01:01:23.000 I was like, oh my god.

01:01:26.000 And then I watched it and I was like, oh, it's the opposite day.

01:01:30.000 It's a dad joke.

01:01:33.000 A really gruesome dad joke.

01:01:36.000 Yes, it's a dad joke over which you lose your job, unfortunately.

01:01:40.000 Most dad jokes should be.

01:01:42.000 All right.

01:01:42.000 Can you give me anything?

01:01:43.000 Hey, I'm a dad, Val.

01:01:45.000 This is true.

01:01:46.000 Hey, hey.

01:01:47.000 Sorry.

01:01:47.000 Hey.

01:01:48.000 I'm sorry.

01:01:48.000 I didn't mean to point out.

01:01:49.000 I know you don't like me pointing at you, Jared.

01:01:50.000 We worked that out.

01:01:51.000 Sorry.

01:01:52.000 All right.

01:01:52.000 Today's show.

01:01:53.000 Do you know what's going to happen there?

01:01:54.000 You're on there all the time.

01:01:55.000 Do the people here know?

01:01:56.000 Are you going to be a permanent fixture there?

01:01:59.000 Well, Megyn Kelly's coming in to have the 9 o'clock hour soon, so we'll see what happens.

01:02:03.000 Okay.

01:02:06.000 It's all you can give us?

01:02:07.000 All right, that's fine.

01:02:08.000 Jordan Peterson keeps calling us.

01:02:09.000 I don't know what is going on.

01:02:10.000 I'm in New York right now, clearly, because that's not the normal Malibu background.

01:02:15.000 Yes.

01:02:15.000 Are you planning on going down to Texas at all?

01:02:18.000 Or I know, obviously, a lot of times people...

01:02:20.000 I mean, you could actually lift things and help people, as opposed to...

01:02:22.000 And I would love to be there and do that, because in that situation, I would be nailed.

01:02:27.000 I would love to do it, love to be able to help.

01:02:28.000 I don't have...

01:02:29.000 I'm working, so I don't have time to get down there now.

01:02:32.000 There was...

01:02:34.000 Some time I was supposed to go down there.

01:02:35.000 I have to do a bunch of trips abroad.

01:02:38.000 I've donated some money already and I've certainly talked about it quite a bit.

01:02:43.000 But there's not much I can't get down there.

01:02:45.000 No, you use your privacy.

01:02:46.000 I love to see the fact this though.

01:02:48.000 I love to see like someone was driving in today and they filmed a line of about, I don't know, 700 trucks.

01:02:59.000 Towing flatbed boats.

01:03:00.000 I was like, these guys are all people trying to get in to help.

01:03:03.000 And that's Texas, and that's America, and that's what I love, and it just makes me jump up and down.

01:03:09.000 I go, yes.

01:03:09.000 And I feel like that's how most people are taking this right now.

01:03:12.000 Most people, obviously, there's this unity outside of the D.C., New York, L.A., unholy alliance where they're, you know, Chris Cuomo tried to do the climate change thing with Kellyanne Conway, and she practically pegged him on TV. It was so embarrassing.

01:03:26.000 She's like, okay, you play amateur climatologist.

01:03:28.000 We talked about this earlier today.

01:03:30.000 By the way, if you're in New York, if you see Chris Cuomo, I know you're polite, but just quote me directly and tell him that I think he's everything that's wrong with journalism and television.

01:03:40.000 Can I get in a wrestling match with him then, too?

01:03:42.000 Only if there's oil involved.

01:03:45.000 Or jelly.

01:03:45.000 I will allow one or the other or all of the above.

01:03:49.000 Alright, well listen, keep us posted.

01:03:50.000 People who haven't been watching the Today Show, I would love to see Dean, I'd love to see him there, get in there and mix some things up and hopefully they let you do a little more than BuzzFeed, rude or not rude.

01:03:59.000 They let you go on the 7 and 8 o'clock hours.

01:04:01.000 Yeah, okay, there you go.

01:04:02.000 And next time you should write in some questions like, hey listen, let me give you some of these flashcards for rude or not rude, like drawing Muhammad and just see, watch everyone's face melt.

01:04:11.000 You know, my answer would be Not rude.

01:04:14.000 I probably have a drawing.

01:04:15.000 Right.

01:04:16.000 And then they go, and yeah, we'll talk, Dean.

01:04:19.000 We'll talk about your future at the show.

01:04:20.000 And we come back!

01:04:21.000 The execution of Dean Cain.

01:04:23.000 Yes.

01:04:24.000 When we come back, Matt Lauer.

01:04:26.000 All right.

01:04:27.000 At RealDeanCain, for people who aren't following him, a great friend of the show, doing a lot of good work, and let today's show know that.

01:04:32.000 RealDeanCain will be good.

01:04:34.000 And now for episode 645 of the Game of Thrones fandom podcast.

01:04:56.000 podcast.

01:04:58.000 Okay, it's important that you stay on topic.

01:05:00.000 Did you see the episode last week on Game of Thrones?

01:05:04.000 Yeah!

01:05:04.000 And what did you find most fascinating about that one?

01:05:08.000 I thought that...

01:05:09.000 Jon Snow was doing a lot with the...

01:05:13.000 God, Eugene! 0.99

01:05:13.000 I just tuned in to talk about boobs and butts! 0.99

01:05:16.000 I just thought some of the narratives that tied together were interesting. 1.00

01:05:20.000 Damn it, Eugene! 1.00

01:05:21.000 No one cares about that crap! 1.00

01:05:22.000 People should get a podcast to hear about the boobs and butts on the show! 1.00

01:05:27.000 Stay tuned for episode 694 of the Game of Thrones fandom podcast, where Eugene will be replaced with an adult film actress. 0.88

01:05:36.000 We'll be right back.

01:06:06.000 I didn't close my eyes there.

01:06:11.000 I opened it, and there you are.

01:06:13.000 Glad to have you.

01:06:13.000 That was Dean Cain.

01:06:14.000 No drowning dance this week.

01:06:15.000 No, that would be horribly insensitive.

01:06:17.000 It would be very...

01:06:17.000 It would be in poor taste.

01:06:19.000 Poor taste, some may say.

01:06:19.000 Almost in poor taste.

01:06:20.000 To say that it would be in poor taste.

01:06:22.000 It's almost like we're drawing attention to the fact that it would be in poor taste.

01:06:25.000 Send your hate mail to...

01:06:26.000 Tweet him, not me.

01:06:29.000 Love Dean Cain.

01:06:29.000 Love Ben Shapiro.

01:06:30.000 I know it's been a little more personal tonight, but...

01:06:33.000 Again, the Newsweek has been dominated by, obviously, Harvey, and it's terrible.

01:06:37.000 Sometimes it's hard to get your head around, and people feel helpless, like there's not a whole lot they can do.

01:06:41.000 Like I said, you know, we're giving $30 for every Mug Club Center for the next two weeks in preparewithcrowder.com.

01:06:47.000 They're matched.

01:06:47.000 So that's kind of what we can do.

01:06:49.000 But we've noticed a lot of people, too, have shut off news this week, because at a certain point, you do what you can, and then you have to move on.

01:06:56.000 Mm-hmm.

01:06:56.000 And we just didn't want to wallow in it.

01:06:58.000 And I know everyone is hyper-politicizing it.

01:07:01.000 And I know we have to address it.

01:07:02.000 And so it's hypocritical because we're technically politicizing it by addressing Chris Cuomo.

01:07:06.000 I get it.

01:07:07.000 It's not lost on me.

01:07:09.000 But hey, listen, this is a good time.

01:07:10.000 This show is a relief for a lot of you.

01:07:12.000 It's like going to a movie in a stressful time in your life.

01:07:15.000 That's something that I've done.

01:07:17.000 We're not here to hammer you over the head with red meat lines and do an ad that gets a three-second play on Facebook about how bad Barack Obama is, who also isn't president anymore. 0.77

01:07:26.000 So if we're not entertaining you, we're not doing our job.

01:07:28.000 That's something we can contribute.

01:07:29.000 We did our best, but Naki, Jared, you had a good point, actually, earlier today.

01:07:33.000 I just had a thought, and this week you see so many people trying to help.

01:07:37.000 Hold that thought.

01:07:37.000 For people who are not Mug Club members, he scalded his tongue, so he's been talking like mush mouth all week.

01:07:43.000 I just realized, they probably just thought, well, not gay Jared got really not gay. 0.96

01:07:47.000 Really not gay. 1.00

01:07:48.000 Okay, go ahead.

01:07:48.000 So I was just thinking about this a lot.

01:07:50.000 And there's so many people who want to help.

01:07:53.000 And I think sometimes this Hurricane Harvey situation has provided a perfect parallel in that they want to help, and they help in all the wrong ways.

01:08:01.000 They help in the ways that make them feel good about themselves.

01:08:03.000 They help in the ways that make them feel like they're being helpful without not actually ever being helpful.

01:08:08.000 And there's parallels there with that and liberalism where they...

01:08:11.000 They think they're helping the black community. 1.00

01:08:12.000 They think they're helping the LGBT community by doing this or that or supporting these causes or those causes.

01:08:17.000 And they're really causing more harm than good.

01:08:20.000 Long term, yeah.

01:08:23.000 Not everyone means harm by supporting those things.

01:08:25.000 I think a lot of people who get sucked in, they really think they are doing some good in the world.

01:08:28.000 But I think we've got to be smart in the way we do these things.

01:08:30.000 If you really care about these communities, learn how to really best help them.

01:08:35.000 Because feeling like you're helping them is not the same thing.

01:08:37.000 No, exactly.

01:08:38.000 It's not the same thing.

01:08:38.000 Well, it was a celebrity, I forgot her name, who gave a bunch of money to the local LGBTQ center.

01:08:43.000 There's one that only wanted to help black-only organizations. 0.54

01:08:46.000 Yeah, black-only. 0.97

01:08:47.000 Well, that's what we call a hate group. 0.98

01:08:49.000 I expect it to be in the Southern Poverty Law Center.

01:08:53.000 So there was someone who gave it just to the LGBTQ Center.

01:08:55.000 And I actually had our researcher, Reg.

01:08:58.000 I said, hey, can we look into how much good these people...

01:08:59.000 Because we never want to attack someone who's doing good even if we disagree with them.

01:09:02.000 Can we look into how much of their funding this LGBTQ resource in Houston gives to the community, how much they would be...

01:09:08.000 And he said, listen, we looked into their tax returns as a nonprofit.

01:09:11.000 It's hard because they've never done any relief stuff.

01:09:13.000 So we'd have to know after this year to then see if they've even contributed anything.

01:09:19.000 So I wouldn't want to comment on this either way.

01:09:23.000 And I appreciate that our research, one of our producers helped us with that.

01:09:26.000 But on the flip side, the person who gave to this LGBTQ charity right now, they're so in a one-track mindset as far as the only way I can help is through this LGBTQ political activism.

01:09:38.000 I'm going to give it to them.

01:09:38.000 Listen, it doesn't matter what...

01:09:41.000 These people need food, particularly non-perishable food, if they're somewhere where, unless you have diesel, you're not getting to them.

01:09:48.000 They need food.

01:09:49.000 They need some way to hit them.

01:09:50.000 Yeah, they need some can openers.

01:09:52.000 They need resources.

01:09:54.000 They need financial funding for people who are going down there with specialized skills, so electricians, plumbers.

01:09:58.000 They don't need a bunch of volunteers going there with soup ladles.

01:10:01.000 Remember Hurricane Katrina?

01:10:02.000 People were running into each other like inbred mice.

01:10:04.000 They didn't know what they were doing.

01:10:06.000 They weren't organized.

01:10:06.000 They said, listen, we don't need more volunteers.

01:10:08.000 We need money.

01:10:10.000 Those volunteers are going to get hurt.

01:10:11.000 Yes, those volunteers are going to get hurt.

01:10:13.000 So you need to look into what it is that they need, but people who don't just say, you know what, I'm just going to give it because it eases my guilt to give it to the LGBTQAAIP number two group.

01:10:22.000 They can't even get beyond the idea that, you know what, listen, yeah, there are LGBTQ people in Houston who are suffering.

01:10:29.000 Yeah, there are probably Black Lives Matter activists who are suffering.

01:10:32.000 But there are also some white people.

01:10:35.000 Some of whom may even be conservative.

01:10:36.000 And guess what?

01:10:37.000 Some of whom may even be conservative and may be under the poverty line.

01:10:40.000 And may be single moms.

01:10:41.000 And maybe they need help too.

01:10:42.000 So what you need to do is look and see how do they need help.

01:10:46.000 Right now it's namely resources, meaning financial resources, and places.

01:10:51.000 They need homes.

01:10:52.000 They need space.

01:10:53.000 That's really what they need at this point.

01:10:55.000 Not so much the volunteer.

01:10:56.000 But if you can only volunteer, then do it.

01:10:58.000 And that's another thing as a biblical principle as Christians, and we've talked about this, and it's very clearly outlined.

01:11:02.000 I had someone at church one time who did a sermon.

01:11:05.000 He said, I think that a millionaire only thinks about his next million and where it's coming from.

01:11:10.000 Right after that, I swear to you, this is at Greenfield Park Baptist.

01:11:13.000 He passed the hat for his missions work.

01:11:15.000 All of a sudden, those millionaires come in handy.

01:11:20.000 Now, some people are greedy millionaires, absolutely.

01:11:22.000 As a matter of fact, here's a litmus test.

01:11:24.000 If you had a million dollars right now, what would you do with it?

01:11:27.000 Would you take a million dollars right now?

01:11:29.000 What would you do with it?

01:11:30.000 Tweet me at S. Crowder.

01:11:31.000 And when you have these self-righteous people who say, no, I don't think I'd want it, good, you don't deserve that money.

01:11:35.000 If you say, well how many cars do you need?

01:11:36.000 You don't deserve that million dollars.

01:11:38.000 Because guess what?

01:11:39.000 You're just thinking about what you can do for yourself.

01:11:41.000 But I don't want to vilify the wealthy.

01:11:43.000 I love that Miley Cyrus was able to give $500,000.

01:11:45.000 I think it's great that Kevin Hart was able to give $25,000 to these charities.

01:11:48.000 I would love to be able to sign over a million dollar check.

01:11:51.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:11:52.000 You can do a lot of good.

01:11:53.000 If someone were to hand you a million dollars right now and you would think about what car you buy, I don't want you having a million dollars.

01:12:01.000 If someone were to give you a million dollars and you think, hey, what third lake house could I get?

01:12:05.000 I don't want you.

01:12:06.000 Bernie Sanders to have a million dollars.

01:12:08.000 But I do want the people who say, you know what, with another million dollars, I bet you I could feed a lot of people.

01:12:13.000 You know what, with another million dollars, I bet you that I could probably house some of these animals and hopefully reunite them with their owners.

01:12:18.000 You know what, with another million dollars, I bet you I could at least help maybe turn on some electricity for some of these folks.

01:12:24.000 Money just amplifies character.

01:12:26.000 Money is amoral.

01:12:28.000 You can take money, you can use it to go buy cocaine, or you can take money and you can use it to get somebody off cocaine.

01:12:33.000 Just like a gun. 0.99

01:12:34.000 You can use it to rape somebody. 1.00

01:12:35.000 You can use it to stop a rape. 0.99

01:12:37.000 And so the left, in vilifying the wealthy, you vilify the people who you need most in these times.

01:12:43.000 And if you get in a one-track mind where the only way you can help is—it's got to be the oppression Olympics.

01:12:49.000 Today it's the LGBTQ. It's mostly the T today, so we're going to side with them against the LG and the Q. You get to a point where you have no semblance of reality, and you don't know how to best help people. 1.00

01:13:01.000 If you keep vilifying—this is something that is really important to me.

01:13:05.000 I know when people say, well, you know what, I'm socially more— Conservative, but on moral issues, I'm more liberal.

01:13:15.000 On financial issues, I'm liberal.

01:13:18.000 It's not a moral issue.

01:13:20.000 Theft isn't a moral issue?

01:13:22.000 When you're talking about taxes and redistribution?

01:13:24.000 No, money is almost always a moral issue.

01:13:27.000 And at the very least, it amplifies the moral issue.

01:13:31.000 And if you spend, as the left does, as Bernie Sanders does, and Cenk right now, Cenk Uygur went out and he said, you know, not a single dime goes to help any of these oil refineries.

01:13:40.000 Well, guess what? 0.99

01:13:41.000 Now the single mom in Dallas, asshole, can't get gas because there's a shortage. 1.00

01:13:47.000 You want to make that worse? 1.00

01:13:48.000 You and your stupid self-righteous, your piety. 1.00

01:13:53.000 You're hurting the people you claim you... 1.00

01:13:54.000 Who do you think is hurt most by you saying, I don't want...

01:13:57.000 I want to punish these oil companies.

01:13:59.000 I want to tax them.

01:14:02.000 You think Elon Musk is hurt?

01:14:03.000 Or do you think maybe it's the single black mom who you're pandering to for votes the next election cycle who has to pay $4.95 a gallon? 1.00

01:14:11.000 And that's the problem.

01:14:12.000 When you don't live in reality and you have no semblance of a moral backbone, what do you do?

01:14:16.000 You blame inanimate objects.

01:14:18.000 I'm going to blame the gun.

01:14:19.000 I'm going to blame the money.

01:14:20.000 Right now, I want rich people.

01:14:24.000 I want rich people to help.

01:14:25.000 And I want to be a rich person.

01:14:27.000 And the success of this show not only will be measured by how much we entertain you, but how many rich people we make because of this show.

01:14:34.000 People who work with CRTV and Mug Club.

01:14:37.000 That's a huge measurement of success because I know that I want people in this room to go out and I want money in their hand when a disaster like this strikes.

01:14:44.000 Because they rallied together and said, how can we help these people?

01:14:47.000 And within a matter of days, we got an entire website up with the bandwidth necessary to make sure that we are helping those in need.

01:14:53.000 I would love to see them with more.

01:14:55.000 I don't just look at somebody with money like Cenk or Bernie Sanders and ironically judge them.

01:15:00.000 Remember, you're not supposed to be prejudiced, but anyone who has a wallet fatter than yours, you're supposed to try and take what he has.

01:15:06.000 I want to see good people.

01:15:08.000 I want to see Dean Cain on the Today Show for the same reason that I want to see the people who I know would do tremendous good with money to be billionaires.

01:15:18.000 Because guess what?

01:15:19.000 If you vilify everybody who's wealthy, if you vilify the mere idea of wealth, the only people who will become wealthy are those who don't care about being vilified.

01:15:28.000 The only people who will be wealthy are the villains. 0.95

01:15:32.000 So shut up with your self-righteousness. 0.99

Louder with Crowder - September 01, 2017

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