Geraldine Morgan is joined by Andrew Torba and Nigel Farage to discuss the latest in the Betsy Devos scandal, and to talk about what it means to be a feminist in the 21st century. Plus, a story about a man who thinks he's gay, and Gerald s wine of the day.
00:01:10.000So Not Gay Jared thinks that we're taping an It parody with the Bernie Sanders character because he brought that up at the pitch meeting, he was really proud of it.
00:01:20.000I should say, to begin with, Jared is deathly afraid of clowns.
00:01:25.000So he thinks we're shooting the It parody.
00:01:26.000What he doesn't know is that when he shows up to shoot, instead, the studio lights will not work, and he will come face to face with his worst fear.
00:02:51.000I f***ing hate clowns That's called the hashtag stop Betsy - Because, hey, I think that men who've never committed a crime in their life deserve due process.
00:04:52.000Ironically, all these SJW hipsters on the left are creating a lot of SJW, or non-SJW hipsters on the right, because they say, Betsy DeVos should be hung from the gallows!
00:05:08.000This isn't at all in our plans for the show tonight, but can you imagine being like Mattress Girl, obviously lacrosse team, UVA. Can you imagine being that guy with Mattress Girl?
00:05:19.000That guy, he never raped her, by the way.
00:05:21.000This was actually a turning point on the show, where we're all Christian conservatives, but it's like, oh, we don't want to offend people.
00:05:26.000She was requesting anal sex via text, going all crazy, fatal attraction, boiled pet rabbit on the guy, and when he decided to not engage, she basically decided to accuse him of rape.
00:05:36.000Can you imagine being that guy, being suspended, not allowed to go to your graduation, and then some harlot walks in and you're like, hey, there's a broad there with a mattress on her back.
00:05:47.000Oh, that's the girl who was requesting sodomy from me.
00:06:09.000So Kim Jong-un, for people who don't know, Kim Jong-un and Dennis Rodman, they've actually become really close in recent years.
00:06:14.000With some saying that the former NBA star has actually filled the void in the wake, there's speculation, we don't know for sure, but it's filled the void in the wake of Kim Jong-un's father's passing.
00:07:31.000In an unfortunate turn of events, actually, Denver Medical Center's chief thoracic surgeon, Jim, fondly known as Dick Little Wallace, committed suicide earlier today.
00:08:19.000We didn't want to actually show a clip because we've subjected to you enough on this show, but I do think we have just an overlay of the story from HuffPo.
00:08:25.000Trevor Noah explained today to Seth Meyers why Donald Trump is actually a stand-up comedian.
00:08:32.000Up next, Trevor Noah explains why Trevor Noah is a comedian.
00:08:39.000You know, I hate to say this because it's so, it is lazy when the left's just, no one on the right is funny.
00:08:43.000I think plenty of people on the left are funny.
00:08:45.000I saw Jon Stewart stand up long before I ever watched his show.
00:08:48.000I saw him with it just for laughs when I was young.
00:09:12.000But I have noticed something with late night comedy here, and I just wanted to bring it up before we get to something else.
00:09:18.000Let's let Seth Meyers, see if you can spot it.
00:09:21.000We're living through a very dark time in America, but there is also an unprecedented opportunity to pull Democrats and liberals together and to stand against the hate and incompetence in Washington.
00:09:30.000The best way to do this is to get the people who voted for you and the people who voted for Bernie on the same page.
00:09:36.000This isn't the time to complain because Senator Woodstock didn't roll over for you.
00:09:41.000Hey, if anything, he helped make you a better candidate.
00:09:44.000You know, the candidate who beat Donald Trump by three million votes.
00:09:51.000Did that look like a late night comedy show to you?
00:09:54.000And I'm not just saying, because I understand that maybe I don't share the same sense of humor, but they go a very long amount of time for a comedy show without a single joke.
00:10:03.000I tried watching a bunch of late nights the other night in a series.
00:10:06.000It was so hard to actually find jokes anywhere in there.
00:10:10.000It's like they don't write them anymore.
00:10:11.000And by the way, listen, we're very open about our biases here on this show.
00:10:14.000We say, listen, this is our point of view, but I actually think that we prioritize comedy and entertainment on this show more than a lot of these late night shows.
00:10:21.000And they try to act as though they're just going after the comedy.
00:10:23.000That's what bothers me, is the lying about it.
00:10:26.000I don't think we've ever really done this on this show.
00:10:29.000Seth Meyers isn't – he's speaking directly to Hillary Clinton advising on how to mobilize the Democratic base.
00:13:29.000All right, so to see if this is true, if 95% of what Donald Trump says is patently false, let's go to our on-the-field fact-check reporter.
00:13:40.000All right, on the field fact check reporter, is that correct?
00:13:43.000That 95% of what Donald Trump says is wrong?
00:14:33.000Okay, you want me to run down the list?
00:14:35.000I mean, I can think of at least a dozen off the top of my head.
00:14:38.000Now, we'll focus on PolitiFact and Snopes because, just like Southern Poverty Law Center YouTube uses for defining hate speech, Facebook and Google use PolitiFact and Snopes to determine what is fake news, what is real.
00:14:52.000So I think actually we can bring this up.
00:14:54.000I don't think Gerald has seen this yet.
00:14:55.000This is what Joy Behar was referencing.
00:14:57.000So it's just sort of this totality of all of their fact-checking Donald Trump, where she's taking that and they're – okay, 95 percent of what Donald Trump says is false.
00:15:21.000But they're very easy to manipulate, especially when you just create an umbrella, PolitiFact, and most people are going there to just see the green sticker of true or false or mostly true or mostly false.
00:15:31.000And they proactively, and Your Honor, I will lay out the case, you decide, they proactively manipulate their fact-checking.
00:19:27.000PolitiFact rated Clinton's statement, in contrast, about 17 intelligence agencies concluding Russia was behind the cyber attacks during the election as true.
00:19:50.000But they go on in that very article to say that 17 separate agencies did not independently declare Russia the perpetrator behind the attacks, behind the hacks.
00:19:57.000So if you look and you just see true, you don't read the fine print.
00:20:59.000But they didn't like him taking credit, so they said false.
00:21:01.000Now, in Hillary Clinton's case, they rated it as true because even though they knew that the claim was false, they felt that the connection to Russia, which was not valid, was still valid!
00:21:12.000So this is what's important for people to know because, again, when Google, when Facebook, when YouTube, when they're using PolitiFact and Snopes to determine fake news and the Southern Poverty Law Center to determine hate speech, and really if you're any kind, Ben Carson is a hate speaker, it's important because these actually serve as foundational institutions in our country that people assume have our best interests at heart, that people assume are being truthful.
00:21:35.000So when people use the term fake news, and I know it's been diluted, it's lost a lot of meaning, this is what we're talking about.
00:21:41.000A place called PolitiFact blatantly manipulating data, claims, and statistics to try and suit an agenda.
00:21:49.000So let's go back to see if we've gotten this right with our On the Field Fact Check reporter.
00:21:56.000On the Field Fact Check reporter, would you say that we are mostly correct in our statements regarding PolitiFact or Snopes?
00:22:03.000I just died a little on the inside, Stephen.
00:22:25.000Home Body Break with Steven Crowder and Not Gay Jared.
00:22:37.000Learning basic automobile maintenance is a very rewarding skill to enjoy on those late summer afternoons and a great way to save yourself some money.
00:23:10.000Then it's as simple as draining your old oil into a pan, swapping out the filter, and replacing it with plenty of 10W40. Once you're finished, crack open a cold one and reward yourself for the fact that you've learned a new skill and saved yourself some money.
00:24:33.000It's not a false comparison because what happens is We're told we have to be compassionate in order, in one case in Europe, to be weak and allow terrorists to come in, and in the case of America, to ride roughshod through sensible immigration rules.
00:24:51.000If you haven't guessed, Nigel Farage at Nigel underscore Farage.
00:25:09.000I want to, you know, I'm fanzying out here.
00:25:12.000One thing that you've shown, I think in America we talk a lot about civility and politics, and that's confused with agreeableness.
00:25:20.000You are not shy at all in voicing your disagreements, sometimes with brilliant insults, by the way, but you're still friends with a lot of these folks.
00:27:16.000You know, that's why there are about 230 of them across the world.
00:27:20.000Normality is people want to live in nations, and within those nations, there are different tribes, different colours, different religions, but people belong to a block, and they have a flag, and an anthem, and a government, and they respect it.
00:27:33.000What is absolutely false, in the case of the European project particularly, Is you say, do you know what?
00:27:41.000We've been a nation for a thousand years, totally independent, not conquered by anybody.
00:29:05.000And, you know, one of the great skills that someone's got to navigate over the next few years is how we bring the city and the country back together again.
00:29:15.000Yeah, well, a lot of people understand the history of the United States and the Electoral College for that very reason.
00:29:19.000You know, you hear the left sort of assault it and try to say, oh, it's to put power back in the hands of slave traders.
00:29:23.000They don't know what they're talking about.
00:29:25.000It's because we didn't want just New York and a couple of...
00:29:28.000Back then, it would have been New York and Boston dictating the entire policy range of the country.
00:29:33.000So here's something I will say, Nigel.
00:29:35.000You know, I was raised in Canada, okay?
00:29:44.000Once you get down to the French, it's just the French, they're like the French Canadians and the French Canadians are like the French from France.
00:31:15.000After a quarter of a century, I have just an indescribably amazing feeling.
00:31:21.000And then to see that moment get picked up by so many people who want liberty and freedom and pride in a nation state in America, and for that to help propel the massive upset of Trump winning, I've got to tell you, 2016 is a year.
00:33:38.000You know, the spelling's a bit different.
00:33:41.000But what's interesting, of course there are cultural differences.
00:33:47.000Between the USA and the UK. But actually, actually, we have a tremendous amount in common.
00:33:55.000And I think if you look back, and it's a bit of a serious point for a comedy show, but I think if you look back, Over the last hundred years, and you see what our two countries have achieved together for liberty and democracy, it says to me, we're basically on the same side.
00:34:12.000And I thought that the Brexit message, the message you can beat the establishment, the message something can be done against these powerful multinationals, big banks, big politics, big media, I thought that message was one that should be told in America because I thought people would see the parallels.
00:35:15.000But good point that you bring up that we have so much in common, the United States and England, the UK, but that's what's most at risk of going away if the left has their way, the commonalities that we have had that have made both countries so great.
00:35:30.000And I wonder if that's an irony that's lost on the left for wanting to find common ground.
00:35:34.000That common ground goes away if we just go to this sort of multicultural internationalism.
00:35:40.000Well, I think that Obama, of course, loathed the United Kingdom, but I think both Obama and Hillary think the nation-state is some kind of relic.
00:35:50.000I mean, Hillary wanted there to be a common market, a European Union, on a big, broader level.
00:35:58.000So you've really got, on the modern left, the old left, Used to perhaps believe in high taxation and big trade union powers, but the old left, certainly in my country, were fiercely patriotic.
00:36:17.000They just had a slightly different vision to Conservatives as to how it should perhaps be run.
00:36:22.000The new left want to destroy and tear down history, symbols, you know, the nation.
00:36:30.000And I have to tell you, I mean, when I see I think?
00:36:49.000Tearing down these symbols, attempting to rewrite history, I know that those of us who would regard ourselves as being conservatives would regard ourselves as being patriots.
00:37:01.000we have to fight harder than ever for our values because we're up against something that is really incredibly dangerous.
00:37:46.000Or was it just, you know, providential?
00:37:50.000No, I think I believed in what I believed in, but I saw some big mistakes.
00:37:56.000And I saw Tony Blair, who, back in 2004, said to eight and then ten former communist countries, we're going to have a complete open border with you.
00:38:08.000As many people as one a country can come.
00:38:11.000I said, whoa, slow down a minute, you know.
00:38:15.000I wish these former communist countries well.
00:39:22.000When you get it right, you buy things at the bottom and you sell them at the top.
00:39:26.000And having spent 25 years pursuing a completely impossible dream, being considered to be one of the maddest, craziest people that had ever walked the face of the earth, considered a joke, cartooned for years as being a clown, And then do you know what happened?
00:40:51.000And he is a witty, amusing human being.
00:40:56.000And the point about genuine, proper democratic process is you should be able to be friends and have a glass of wine with people you disagree with.
00:45:05.000We're going to have actually this man on next week, but he was gracious enough to come on this week.
00:45:09.000At the center of some controversy, the website is gab.ai.
00:45:13.000For people who don't know, it is the only, I guess I don't want to say the only, but certainly the most prominent that I can think of, truly free speech-oriented social media platforms.
00:45:21.000This is the guy who runs it, the founder of The Feast, Andrew Torbaugh.
00:45:36.000Yeah, so who knows where else it's going to go?
00:45:38.000Okay, first off, before we get to some things that have happened in the news, tell people what Gab is, why you've created it.
00:45:46.000That way it paves the way for the controversy, because you've been called everything from a neo-Nazi to a white supremacist all the way back to neo-Nazi.
00:45:58.000So we founded Gab in 2016, and the idea was to create an ad-free social network that defended individual liberty, the free flow of information, and, of course, freedom of speech.
00:46:11.000I saw the censorship happening in Silicon Valley rampantly, and I also lived and worked there and was a part of the inner circle of inner circles and knew that this censorship strategy was going to continue.
00:47:14.000It's interesting that we're getting painted as a white supremacist website when we have a very diverse team that's from different backgrounds, different religions, that are coming together and saying, listen, we believe in the free flow of information, the free and open web, and the ability for everybody to speak freely.
00:47:30.000And our mission has been consistent from day one on that fact.
00:47:34.000Yeah, and I know you've grown quite a bit.
00:47:36.000So people obviously, first off, do you consider yourself alt-right?
00:47:52.000I'm not any, I guess, traditional label.
00:47:55.000I consider myself to be a classical liberal.
00:47:57.000I guess I'm very libertarian in a lot of certain ways.
00:48:01.000I believe in the free market up until the fact that I realized that the free market is no longer free and it's rigged, especially when it comes to mobile device hardware and software distribution on app stores, for example.
00:48:12.000There is a very clear duopoly between Apple and Google, rather.
00:48:18.000And if they don't want you in their game, then you're not allowed in their game, and there's nothing you can really do about it.
00:48:25.000So I think the left always loves to say, well, if you don't like the hate speech rules, if you don't like the censorship on Facebook, on Twitter, etc., go build your own.
00:49:51.000is is that there's hate speech anywhere on the web anywhere you go that there are two or more people chances are you're going to come across hate speech so again they're selectively enforcing and deciding who can actually participate in the free market and who can't now obviously they're going to argue well you can still access gab from a mobile you know browser but it's not the same as Tell that to consumers who email us 100 times a day asking where our app is, right?
00:50:16.000That's a real problem for distribution.
00:50:18.000It's harmed our business, and it's anti-competitive, anti-trust behavior.
00:50:23.000So that's key, because I hate to keep interjecting, but it's It's key because I can see people making comments and most people are making the wrong comments.
00:50:29.000They don't understand what the First Amendment is.
00:50:45.000And we've actually launched a legal fund, and we are currently exploring all options from every angle of this, whether it's the First Amendment angle, the antitrust angle, the anti-competitive angle.
00:50:57.000There's a lot of different issues that are happening here, and we're not the only ones that are suing Google for antitrust behavior.
00:51:04.000They were just fined in the EU, I think it was $2.5 billion for antitrust behavior.
00:51:18.000Yeah, this is unprecedented, and this really worries me about the future of the free and open web.
00:51:24.000So we had our domain registrar contact us earlier this week, and they said that we needed to remove an individual post from an individual user that happened to be a meme that was breaking our guidelines.
00:51:37.000So our guidelines are pretty clear, right?
00:51:39.000We allow free speech within lawful limitations, and we have some simple guidelines around tagging stuff that probably shouldn't be viewed at work as not safe for work.
00:51:47.000So things like porn and obscene content.
00:51:51.000And I reviewed the post, and the post was indeed breaking our guidelines.
00:51:55.000It wasn't something I was going to ban the person for.
00:51:58.000It wasn't something I was going to make a big deal out of.
00:52:00.000But it did need to be tagged as not safe for work.
00:52:03.000So it was technically in violation of our guidelines.
00:52:05.000But it wasn't something that I would expect a registrar who threatened us to literally remove and seize our domain if we don't censor this post from this individual user within 48 hours.
00:52:19.000That type of demand is really unprecedented.
00:52:22.000I've never heard of anything like this.
00:52:24.000Now, obviously, if it was something illegal, if it was breaking the law, that would be understandable.
00:52:29.000If it was a copyright claim, all of these things are very common sense and understandable.
00:52:34.000I don't want to say common sense, because I think, especially if you look at your rules, they actually follow the law.
00:53:03.000You know, people will say common sense, but you guys are very clear in outlining it.
00:53:07.000And I think when a lot of, I know you're not, but some alt-right media covers it, they need to zone in on that, man, because that is so important.
00:53:13.000You guys do have parameters, and it's not a moving target, and that's what's different.
00:53:19.000Well, and that's the thing, too, is we actually cite individual Supreme Court precedent in our guidelines as well.
00:53:24.000Like, we are using the First Amendment and rulings on the First Amendment to shape and form our guidelines.
00:53:31.000And obviously, we don't want to allow any illegal activity.
00:53:33.000Like, we want free and open discourse.
00:53:36.000When you allow free and open discourse in the exchange of ideas, it helps to actually prevent that illegal activity from happening because when people can't express themselves, when people are being shut up across the internet, when people are being no-platformed off the internet now and un-personed off the internet now, they're more likely to get down that road of violence and other illegal activity and go to the dark web where there is more illegal activity.
00:53:57.000So by allowing free speech and free expression and the ability to exchange all ideas and ideologies, no matter how much they trigger certain people, that is something that is the better route, in my opinion, than violence or illegal activity.
00:54:13.000It's funny you use the word trigger because ironically, the word trigger has become a trigger.
00:55:45.000So right now, the internet is completely centralized and controlled by no more than a handful of people.
00:55:50.000There are gatekeepers at the hosting level, the DDoS protection level, payment processing, as we've learned this week, domain registrars.
00:55:57.000So if we have to, we are going to rebuild all of that.
00:56:01.000We will rebuild the internet from the ground up to be pro-free speech and then decentralize the control over it with things like blockchain technology, for example.
00:56:10.000We're going to be launching our own ICO and minting our own utility token so that our users can actually exchange value back and forth with one another on the site.
00:56:19.000So that is really the next level for us, is getting decentralized and getting built on top of the blockchain technology so that we don't have to worry.
00:56:28.000We can censorship-proof the internet and defend and protect free speech and the open web.
01:02:05.000I could sit there, and everything we talked about today, I could sit there and say, well, you know, actually, that claim was kind of incorrect, because they took the same three claims of Donald Trump fact-checked them 19 times versus three claims from Hillary Clinton.
01:02:16.000They only fact-checked them twice, and...
01:02:25.000I'll tell you what, late night was so bad this week, I watched it, and it was one of those things where, you know, it was something so bad, you have to wonder, was it ever good?
01:02:32.000Oh, that's kind of like, I had that with Mike Myers and the Love Guru.
01:02:36.000And it was so bad, I didn't even want to go back and watch Austin Powers.
01:02:47.000Something that, you know, in just going through this show that I wanted to talk about, I think the greatest lie that we've ever been told...
01:02:56.000I guess as a society period, but particularly as it comes from the left, the entertainment industry, because we've been talking about that quite a bit, the entertainment industry, sort of the media complex.
01:04:59.000School right now across the country, and I guess because we get a lot of emails from college kids, diversity charlatans, you see this with the protests, they're telling everyone, just be yourself!
01:05:09.000You just, listen, you will find that if you are just true to yourself, true to what you believe, that great things are then, hashtag stop Betsy!
01:05:20.000And if you bring up, well how about due process, they expel you or call you a sexist or racist.
01:05:25.000Black people, they just, they need to, they haven't had their voice heard.
01:05:29.000They haven't, we need to, there's because of systemic, they haven't had their voice heard enough.
01:05:32.000A black conservative speaks up, they're an Uncle Tom.
01:05:35.000It's not, and I want to clarify here, it's not about hypocrisy.
01:05:38.000Because we hear that a lot from the right where they just go, it's hypocritical.
01:05:41.000You know, this is kind of the conservative attitude.
01:05:44.000If it weren't for double standards, they wouldn't have any standards.
01:05:47.000If it weren't for double standards, I'd be out of a job.
01:06:10.000It's about a systematic lie that the left has perpetrated on the American public since we were toddlers watching Sesame Street.
01:06:16.000And they had no—the most important thing is they had no intention of fulfilling— This is not a lie where they've kind of, they've gotten off the beam, where they've lost themselves.
01:07:30.000We've been at events where most people that came up to us wanting signed t-shirts or wanting a picture were people that left would consider a marginalized group.
01:08:16.000I certainly want you to question anything not-K.
01:08:18.000Jared says, I want you to choose your own path, unlike the left.
01:08:22.000Because unlike the left that operates as a gang, I know that when you are your true self, when you actually go out and be yourself, when you pave your own path, that's how greatness occurs.
01:08:32.000And that's the fundamental difference in the worldview.
01:08:33.000Because unlike the left who, when and if you become successful, they're right there to yank you right back down.