Louder with Crowder - #233 FREE SPEECH WEEK RIOTS! Rick Santorum, Clint Howard and Ann McElhinney | Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 *music* Look, if you had one speech at Berkeley to show the world that your Jewish ass ain't no Nazi, do you pay the $10,000 security deposit? 0.53

00:00:23.000 or do you just stay home with that bitch-ass Tumblr? 1.00

00:00:29.000 Well, listen, the bottom line is, that was a rumor.

00:00:33.000 Factually, I was not going to let students, any fascists, keep me off campus.

00:00:37.000 That was simply not going to happen.

00:00:39.000 As it relates to the Tumblr, of course, it's a quality item.

00:00:42.000 It's double wall insulated.

00:00:44.000 And we're actually selling it out for a very...

00:00:47.000 That seemed at the very least inappropriate to play while I am finishing out.

00:00:57.000 Hey! 0.99

00:01:02.000 Coverage for all.

00:01:03.000 No discrimination based on pre-existing conditions.

00:01:08.000 At long last, Mr.

00:01:11.000 President, here is your Emmy.

00:01:13.000 Famous rapper who once bragged about God Made Me Bulletproof was shot and killed yesterday.

00:01:24.000 Turns out that actually God sided with his notorious foe, MC Armor Piercing Bullets.

00:01:28.000 Do not, do not, do not go further without consent.

00:01:32.000 But your honor, I couldn't know, said all the rapists who suck at Pictionary.

00:01:36.000 Maybe it's the fact that for Miami you wore a t-shirt of a guy who raped their fan base's moms.

00:01:48.000 Oh! 0.60

00:01:48.000 I can show you my wang! 0.60

00:01:52.000 It's amazing how smart you have to be to create something that stupid.

00:02:05.000 That's not going to get trending.

00:02:09.000 We'll be right back.

00:02:39.000 I got to follow.

00:02:41.000 I'm a spiritist.

00:02:45.000 That's the unenthusiastic maracas.

00:02:54.000 Ah!

00:02:55.000 Favorite.

00:02:55.000 Thought I recognized it.

00:02:56.000 It's a favorite on Hot Mexican Days.

00:02:58.000 Hey, before we get to our...

00:02:59.000 We have three...

00:03:00.000 We have three...

00:03:00.000 Well, four guests today, technically.

00:03:02.000 Sort of.

00:03:02.000 Sort of, yeah.

00:03:03.000 Question of the day.

00:03:03.000 Do you believe that the roles on the left and right have swapped on free speech since the 60s?

00:03:07.000 We'll be talking about that because free speech a week is coming up.

00:03:10.000 Or has the left never really cared about free speech?

00:03:12.000 I think it was more of a pro-drug, anti-war movement than it was so much about speech in the 60s.

00:03:18.000 And second question on a scale of one to Mel Brooks.

00:03:20.000 How Jewish has Ben Shapiro?

00:03:21.000 The first thing with me in video studio always is, Not Gay Jared. 0.99

00:03:24.000 Follow him on Twitter at Not Gay Jared. 0.52

00:03:26.000 He's not gay. 0.63

00:03:26.000 Me, it is crowded with your comments, your thoughts, your Photoshop. 0.63

00:03:29.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:03:31.000 Giant conclusions.

00:03:31.000 Are we good?

00:03:32.000 We're good enough.

00:03:33.000 That'll do.

00:03:36.000 What's the wine of the day, Mr.

00:03:37.000 Sommelier?

00:03:38.000 The wine of the day is Dow Cabernet Sauvignon.

00:03:40.000 Please don't ever let this man recommend a film.

00:03:42.000 We've talked about this yesterday.

00:03:44.000 Notorious.

00:03:44.000 This man recommended Notorious.

00:03:46.000 Hey, I got a new recommendation for you.

00:03:48.000 Notorious 2.

00:03:48.000 It's out.

00:03:49.000 You should see.

00:03:50.000 It's just one static shot of a grave.

00:03:53.000 It's a big apology for Notorious 1.

00:03:55.000 Notorious on HBO, if you've never seen it.

00:03:57.000 Well, I don't know if it's an HBO film, but it's not.

00:03:58.000 It's terrible.

00:04:00.000 I was a Straight Outta Compton fan.

00:04:02.000 It's two hours of my life I will never get back.

00:04:04.000 We spent half the show on it yesterday, but I'm still sore about it.

00:04:07.000 It's 30 seconds of my life I'll never get back.

00:04:08.000 We'll be talking about free speech tonight.

00:04:10.000 We'll be talking about, before free speech, we kind of get into the history of it, why Vox hates free speech, along with Jimmy Kimmel.

00:04:15.000 We are going to have...

00:04:16.000 Clint Howard on the show.

00:04:18.000 Yes!

00:04:18.000 That's always fun.

00:04:19.000 In an incredible way.

00:04:20.000 Provided that we actually get him on the show and he gets his stuff working.

00:04:23.000 We're going to have Anne McElhinney and Philip McElhinney.

00:04:25.000 They have their Ferguson play going into the heart of Manhattan.

00:04:27.000 And then we have Senator Rick Santorum talking about the new Cassidy bill that has everyone up.

00:04:31.000 Big deal.

00:04:32.000 All wee-weed up, as President Obama said.

00:04:35.000 Paddy's in a bunch.

00:04:36.000 Just made up words.

00:04:36.000 And if you say, that's not a word, that's racist.

00:04:39.000 So good lineup.

00:04:40.000 Before we get to that...

00:04:41.000 We have to address the angry elephant in the room.

00:04:44.000 A leaked video that went viral of MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell.

00:04:48.000 Do we have a clip of his...

00:04:50.000 Do we just have the first clip?

00:04:51.000 Well, today President Trump visited Texas, but he forgot to bring any empathy with him.

00:04:57.000 But he did bring a hat.

00:04:59.000 A hat that is for sale.

00:05:04.000 58 seconds.

00:05:05.000 What's going on?

00:05:06.000 Why am I losing this?

00:05:07.000 Why don't I have sound?

00:05:11.000 Alright, it's back.

00:05:12.000 Someone's pressing buttons and turning my sound off.

00:05:15.000 Who's asking for a Labor Day rundown in my ear?

00:05:20.000 Someone in that control room is out of control.

00:05:23.000 So, you know, my heart goes out to the guy.

00:05:25.000 I see it.

00:05:26.000 You can see the rage building up.

00:05:28.000 We've all been there.

00:05:29.000 You want to sympathize.

00:05:31.000 Well, I will say this.

00:05:32.000 When I was at Fox News, I remember I used to be in the, when you were in the newsroom, they didn't even have cubicles.

00:05:36.000 And they would just have people, like it was a call center, answering phones behind you on their keyboards.

00:05:40.000 And they were just obnoxious.

00:05:42.000 Whereas coming from the voice acting world, people are, you know, it's on air, quiet, on radio.

00:05:47.000 So, of course, listen, the guy's still a dick.

00:05:51.000 But it changes the context a little bit.

00:05:53.000 We've actually acquired exclusive audio from his earpiece, and there's a little more empathy.

00:05:59.000 Well, today President Trump visited Texas, but he forgot to bring any empathy with him.

00:06:04.000 But he did bring a hat.

00:06:06.000 A hat that is for sale.

00:06:14.000 What's going on?

00:06:16.000 Why am I losing this?

00:06:17.000 Why don't I have sound?

00:06:21.000 Alright, it's back.

00:06:22.000 Someone's pressing buttons and turning my sound bell.

00:06:25.000 Who's asking for a Labor Day rundown in my ear?

00:06:30.000 Someone in that control room is out of control.

00:06:33.000 No, we're trying to help you.

00:06:34.000 You're out of control.

00:06:35.000 You're out of control.

00:06:36.000 There are people who are trying to make sure that you get your story straight, and you're talking about stuff that we didn't even put in the room.

00:06:40.000 20 seconds.

00:06:40.000 Oh, okay.

00:06:41.000 That's great.

00:06:42.000 Really professional.

00:06:43.000 10 seconds.

00:06:44.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

00:06:46.000 You just shit yourself?

00:06:47.000 I think you shit yourself.

00:06:50.000 You just shit yourself before going live.

00:06:53.000 There it is.

00:06:55.000 Go.

00:06:57.000 So the president went to Texas Eve Perez, who had been missing since Sunday morning.

00:07:02.000 You have insanity in my earpiece.

00:07:09.000 It's not my earpiece.

00:07:11.000 It's somebody talking on our lines.

00:07:12.000 Yes, we're talking to you because you're an a**hole.

00:07:15.000 I'm trying to pronounce it Perez or you're going to look like a moron.

00:07:18.000 Two seconds.

00:07:19.000 You going to sh** yourself again?

00:07:23.000 Five, four, three.

00:07:25.000 And you go now, son of a**hole. 0.99

00:07:30.000 President Trump did not mention Sergeant Perez.

00:07:35.000 Sorry.

00:07:38.000 That was today's lead.

00:07:41.000 I'm sorry.

00:07:42.000 Hillary Clinton, she's still in the news.

00:07:44.000 We have to address it.

00:07:45.000 Hopefully, I don't.

00:07:47.000 You know, listen, anyone can get hit by a car.

00:07:50.000 She gave an interview to Mike today, complaining about misogyny and double, so she, this is a quote, she, the clip, we won't subject you to the actual video clip in Oakland.

00:07:59.000 Thank you.

00:07:59.000 She said, we need to end the double standard, adding that too often women are seen as angry when they advocate for causes they believe in, rather than as passionate.

00:08:09.000 Well...

00:08:09.000 No, it's just you.

00:08:11.000 It's just you.

00:08:12.000 I don't...

00:08:13.000 This is the thing that really bothers me, and I know my wife about people like Hillary Clinton. 0.93

00:08:17.000 Stop conflating all women with you. 0.86

00:08:20.000 Aretha Franklin, no one's upset about her passionate singing.

00:08:23.000 Talking about R-E-S-P-E-C-T. No one cares. 1.00

00:08:25.000 No.

00:08:26.000 No.

00:08:26.000 We applaud.

00:08:27.000 Everyone applaud her...

00:08:28.000 Sarah McLachlan, she's passionate about dogs.

00:08:31.000 She doesn't complain that you didn't adopt a dog because she's a woman. 0.90

00:08:33.000 She just gets it done. 0.88

00:08:35.000 Every time I turn on the TV, she's... 1.00

00:08:36.000 And you know what?

00:08:36.000 I say, hey, listen...

00:08:38.000 I wish it didn't play during my children's cartoon, but I appreciate your passion, Sarah McLachlan.

00:08:45.000 You're the woman, Hillary, who legally had people killed and lost the most winnable presidency ever, okay? 0.51

00:08:51.000 So maybe it's just you.

00:08:53.000 She's the Michael Jackson of politics. 0.99

00:08:55.000 Like, maybe she served a purpose at one point.

00:08:57.000 No, she didn't.

00:08:57.000 She had another genius.

00:08:58.000 But she's just a leech on society that will not just go away. 1.00

00:09:02.000 Well, she had her moment.

00:09:04.000 She had her moment, and she missed it.

00:09:06.000 And she just doesn't know how to deal with it.

00:09:08.000 She has had nothing but moments.

00:09:10.000 Her whole life have been moments served up to her.

00:09:13.000 She became a senator when she got an apartment just outside the borderline for two weeks.

00:09:18.000 I'm going to fight for my people of New York.

00:09:20.000 Hot sauce!

00:09:22.000 Hot sauce!

00:09:23.000 I get it.

00:09:24.000 But, you know, she's like, oh, the first black president, of course.

00:09:26.000 The only thing that could trump the first woman president, first black president, and then Donald Trump, and she's like, I got it. 0.83

00:09:30.000 I got it.

00:09:30.000 This is it.

00:09:31.000 What?

00:09:31.000 This is it.

00:09:32.000 I lost.

00:09:33.000 I think this is, like, normal people would go into a home at this point and just be crazy in a padded cell, but she gets to write books.

00:09:33.000 I know.

00:09:39.000 Yeah, well, I mean, Bernie, I think that's where they put him at night.

00:09:42.000 It's like a parking garage.

00:09:43.000 Someone just carts him into a padded room.

00:09:46.000 He walks in and he's going, health care is the human right!

00:09:49.000 How much Saudi debt is she in that she has to keep doing these circuits to raise all these money? 1.00

00:09:54.000 I don't know, but, you know, listen.

00:09:55.000 It makes sense that she gets all their money.

00:09:57.000 She's the only one brave enough to go in because she knows she's not getting sexually assaulted.

00:10:01.000 Everyone else is open season.

00:10:03.000 Bernie Sanders is crazy to me.

00:10:05.000 He's so crazy that I feel as though he would be just an expert in escaping straitjackets.

00:10:11.000 I feel like he'd be surprised.

00:10:13.000 He's had a lot of experience, probably, too.

00:10:14.000 Houdini!

00:10:16.000 Well, that makes sense.

00:10:17.000 He spent some time in these.

00:10:19.000 Why Fortune's Most Powerful Women's List Matters More Than Ever was the headline... 0.99

00:10:25.000 From Fortune.

00:10:26.000 So that's why our stuff matters more than all of our...

00:10:29.000 We matter.

00:10:31.000 So included in the...

00:10:32.000 This was a list.

00:10:33.000 The top 50.

00:10:33.000 They do it every year.

00:10:34.000 Most powerful women in the world and all of their accomplishments. 0.99

00:10:38.000 Not included on their list of accomplishments.

00:10:39.000 Pull-ups.

00:10:43.000 Nothing more.

00:10:44.000 So, Netflix was forced, this was something else, to pull an episode of their children's show, Maya the Bee.

00:10:49.000 Was that an American show or just a Canadian show?

00:10:51.000 And now I know it's on Netflix.

00:10:53.000 Yeah, it was.

00:10:54.000 My nephews watched it for a little while.

00:10:55.000 Oh, okay.

00:10:56.000 Well, no, when I was, like, in the early 90s.

00:10:58.000 Oh, okay.

00:10:59.000 We had it in Canada.

00:10:59.000 They watched the Netflix.

00:11:00.000 Okay.

00:11:00.000 So, Maya the Bee, when a mother spotted a very lewd image.

00:11:05.000 If you didn't catch it the first time.

00:11:06.000 If you can see that, right there.

00:11:09.000 Now, some people are trying to argue, was this...

00:11:13.000 Okay.

00:11:14.000 Yeah.

00:11:14.000 Yeah, listen.

00:11:15.000 And all this proves is that artists, it doesn't matter how good they are, they just love drawing dicks.

00:11:20.000 Yeah.

00:11:20.000 Okay?

00:11:21.000 Period.

00:11:22.000 It kills all this time.

00:11:23.000 All the Disney great...

00:11:24.000 All the greatest Disney films of all time.

00:11:26.000 The classics.

00:11:26.000 I have the VHS of the original Little Mermaid, where it's just like a gold-plated apparatus.

00:11:33.000 And that priest, that horny, horny priest. 0.88

00:11:35.000 What?

00:11:36.000 A Little Mermaid?

00:11:36.000 That's true.

00:11:37.000 A Little Mermaid.

00:11:37.000 Yeah, he had the bulge there.

00:11:39.000 Oh, that's right.

00:11:40.000 I feel like these artists get so bored with doing some of these children's things.

00:11:44.000 They're like, how far can we push this?

00:11:45.000 How obvious can it be?

00:11:46.000 No, no, you're missing it.

00:11:47.000 From the kid in his high school yearbook all the way to the greatest artist.

00:11:50.000 Just artists love drawing Donagers. 0.89

00:11:52.000 That's what it is.

00:11:53.000 Yeah.

00:11:54.000 It doesn't matter how skilled they are.

00:11:55.000 Get over it!

00:11:56.000 You can look throughout history and see this to be true.

00:11:58.000 No, no, no, you're wrong.

00:12:00.000 You're wrong.

00:12:00.000 Look, it's Sistine Chapel, right there.

00:12:02.000 Okay, listen.

00:12:02.000 You're wrong.

00:12:02.000 That's not necessary.

00:12:03.000 Could have easily put a fig leaf there.

00:12:05.000 That's true, yeah.

00:12:06.000 And that's pretty small.

00:12:07.000 Chose to.

00:12:07.000 Yeah, it is striking.

00:12:09.000 So everyone knows, like, there are those that you know, but there are some that a lot of people don't know.

00:12:12.000 Like the Mona Lisa.

00:12:13.000 Everyone knows what that looks like.

00:12:14.000 But if you zoom in, you look a little closer.

00:12:16.000 Look, Dick, right there. 0.95

00:12:17.000 Ha! 0.89

00:12:20.000 People don't...

00:12:20.000 See, it's just you have to have...

00:12:21.000 It's like the magic eye.

00:12:23.000 You have to look and kind of...

00:12:23.000 It's like the eye spy.

00:12:25.000 You kind of like...

00:12:25.000 That's why they don't let you close enough to the painting.

00:12:27.000 So that's where the rope is far away.

00:12:28.000 If you can get closer, then you need to defocus to kind of do the Rain Man glaze.

00:12:34.000 That's how you see magic eyes.

00:12:35.000 So if the Mona Lisa... 0.77

00:12:36.000 And then something else people don't like...

00:12:37.000 Picasso, we know because he did all kinds of weird things.

00:12:39.000 But a lot of people don't know.

00:12:41.000 They don't see...

00:12:41.000 If you look at Picasso, you look at his signature even.

00:12:44.000 Look, you zoom in.

00:12:45.000 People don't...

00:12:45.000 It's a dick!

00:12:46.000 They have since the beginning of time...

00:12:50.000 And there is nothing to be ashamed of.

00:12:52.000 The beauty of the...

00:12:52.000 We've celebrated the female form, so Maya the bee should be able to celebrate the male form.

00:12:57.000 You get your hats, your pussy hats... 0.95

00:13:00.000 The kids would have never seen that.

00:13:01.000 We had Dix and Picasso.

00:13:02.000 They would have never seen that.

00:13:02.000 I'm pretty sure some kid would have seen that.

00:13:04.000 You had to zoom in to really see it.

00:13:07.000 Well, they're watching it on their iPads now.

00:13:08.000 They're not watching it.

00:13:09.000 They're not popping in a VHS tape.

00:13:11.000 This is HD 4K. Stop, Gerald.

00:13:13.000 All right.

00:13:14.000 This isn't Fight Club where they're putting...

00:13:16.000 Someone's going to be like, I have a print of the Mona Lisa.

00:13:19.000 It doesn't matter.

00:13:20.000 Because yours is a counterfeit.

00:13:22.000 That's right.

00:13:23.000 Amazon is now reviewing their website after algorithm suggests bomb-making ingredients.

00:13:28.000 So this is...

00:13:29.000 Self-ful.

00:13:30.000 Thank God they just bought Whole Foods.

00:13:32.000 This makes me feel good about society.

00:13:34.000 The ingredients which are legal to purchase were included in a frequently bought together section of listings that included materials like ball bearings, ignition systems, and detonators.

00:13:43.000 Just the classics.

00:13:45.000 Just a suggestion from Amazon.

00:13:47.000 Sometimes the algorithm gets you.

00:13:49.000 Watch it under pressure cookers for good fun.

00:13:52.000 And then just put it in the back of a car.

00:13:56.000 I think Nick DiPaolo told us about that.

00:13:57.000 He saw a pressure cooker in the back of a car, and he called the cops.

00:14:01.000 And he was like, listen, it's just a pressure cooker.

00:14:03.000 Pressure cooker?

00:14:03.000 No, no, no.

00:14:04.000 Well, first off, he was profiling.

00:14:06.000 Was there duct tape around?

00:14:07.000 There was a bunch of weird stuff.

00:14:08.000 We'll have him on to talk about it soon.

00:14:10.000 But, of course, this opened up an entire investigation to Amazon.

00:14:13.000 If you haven't been following this, but this isn't actually the only...

00:14:18.000 This is another malicious use of the platform.

00:14:20.000 Well, it's just the algorithms.

00:14:22.000 They're a neural net processor.

00:14:24.000 They're a learning computer.

00:14:24.000 So the algorithms, they've also suggested, for example, customers who bought bedsheets, it suggested you might also purchase SPF 300, best of Limp Bizkit, and Tiki torches.

00:14:35.000 And a big problem with this was enabling location services, if you were in Charlottesville.

00:14:42.000 Gotta turn that part of your phone off.

00:14:44.000 If you're driving a Challenger.

00:14:46.000 Gotta turn it off.

00:14:46.000 Exactly.

00:14:46.000 Because now I can warn you while you're driving.

00:14:48.000 It's like, are you in a Dodge Challenger?

00:14:49.000 Do you want a Tiki torch?

00:14:51.000 Damn it, Siri!

00:14:52.000 Stop it! 0.99

00:14:53.000 Yeah, I do.

00:14:53.000 That's a pretty good deal on Tiki torches.

00:14:55.000 One click buy.

00:14:56.000 There we go.

00:14:57.000 Frequently purchased.

00:14:58.000 Also, if you were buying teddy bears, it suggested lollipops and window tint, which I didn't even know was a purchase you could make.

00:15:05.000 They got everything!

00:15:05.000 I didn't know you could purchase window tint.

00:15:07.000 It goes, by the way, state-to-state law.

00:15:09.000 It depends where you're allowed.

00:15:10.000 And if you were purchasing the Ryan Gosling Criterion director's box set, it suggested dark chocolate and industrial-strength Midol, which, when you think about it, isn't really, like, it's not dangerous.

00:15:20.000 It's just really sad.

00:15:21.000 It's very sad, but it's also relieving.

00:15:24.000 It is.

00:15:25.000 Midol.

00:15:26.000 Yeah.

00:15:27.000 The robots are trying to help us.

00:15:28.000 They're not here to kill.

00:15:29.000 Do you think people realize that Midol is a sponsor?

00:15:31.000 Do you think we fit that in, right?

00:15:32.000 We fit that in pretty well.

00:15:33.000 That's pretty smooth.

00:15:34.000 Thank you, Midol.

00:15:35.000 just feathered it right in there. 0.99

00:15:44.000 That's awesome.

00:15:45.000 None of us can judge Clint Howard for being bizarre.

00:15:48.000 Okay, so Free Speech Week is going to kick off at some point.

00:15:51.000 We're kind of exhausted with it, obviously, because Ben was already there.

00:15:55.000 And now there's going to be Milo and Coulter.

00:15:58.000 Vox wrote an article on this, and I think it is picture-perfect.

00:16:01.000 Again, question of the day is, do you think that the right and left swapped roles on free speech?

00:16:05.000 I don't think so.

00:16:05.000 We've talked about that with Rubin or Sargon.

00:16:07.000 Like, well, you know, I'm a classical liberal.

00:16:08.000 I don't think...

00:16:09.000 If you mean classical liberal, you're going back all the way to, you know, Jefferson.

00:16:13.000 Fine.

00:16:13.000 But I think people think, you know, when they think JFK is classical liberal, no.

00:16:16.000 No.

00:16:17.000 So Vox wrote this article, and it is just, it's picture-perfect proof, okay?

00:16:22.000 So right away, what should throw you for a loop is free speeches and quotes.

00:16:28.000 That's kind of a red flag.

00:16:29.000 Not just Free Speech Week.

00:16:30.000 You scroll through, it says, when conservatives talk about free speech.

00:16:34.000 What?

00:16:35.000 And there's no capitals on free speech.

00:16:38.000 So it's not like you're saying, okay, we're using this as a noun.

00:16:42.000 No.

00:16:42.000 They just, free speech.

00:16:44.000 They're hedging their bets.

00:16:46.000 So right away in Vox they write, one of the reasons people are so opposed to these free speech events is because these conservative activists often use the mantle of free speech to say some really bigoted offensive things.

00:16:59.000 Okay, so they do their obligatory First Amendment, but really?

00:17:03.000 And then they go right there, right into condemning the speech.

00:17:05.000 And they say again and again, people told me how much they resented not being able to speak their minds, though none of them wanted to articulate what exactly they were holding in.

00:17:11.000 Well, how about they didn't want to articulate it because you were going to say that they were using it to say really bigoted, offensive things.

00:17:18.000 Before they said anything, call it a hunch.

00:17:23.000 Then they go on to say in the same article on Vox, Some liberals have argued that this conservative defense of free speech is really a ruse to say all sorts of racist, sexist, and other bigoted things.

00:17:35.000 Which is really just a repeat of the first quote that I read.

00:17:38.000 It's almost like a summary.

00:17:39.000 But they felt the need to reiterate it.

00:17:41.000 Why could conservatives possibly want to avoid you?

00:17:47.000 This is why polls aren't accurate.

00:17:50.000 People are afraid because, everyone, what do you think about Donald Trump?

00:17:53.000 Oh, shoot.

00:17:54.000 If I answer, he's going to say I'm...

00:17:56.000 He's going to take this as seriously bigoted.

00:17:58.000 He wrote about it twice.

00:17:59.000 It's true.

00:18:00.000 Wrote it two times in that article.

00:18:01.000 Put free speech in quotes.

00:18:03.000 Like, the only thought that I have coming across my head is something racist or sexist that I could say out loud.

00:18:11.000 Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

00:18:26.000 And we saw that when it was code pink.

00:18:28.000 Remember what George was saying?

00:18:29.000 Yeah, they're right, free speech.

00:18:31.000 Okay.

00:18:32.000 Okay.

00:18:33.000 Now, it's true that the left champion free speech, or the term free speech, this sort of free speech movement, started in Berkeley, right?

00:18:39.000 Against the Vietnam War in the 60s.

00:18:41.000 Okay.

00:18:42.000 Now, I maintain that that was really just more of an anti-war, pro-drug movement.

00:18:46.000 If you actually go back and read the literature, sure, it was called the free speech movement in Berkeley.

00:18:51.000 Mm-hmm.

00:18:51.000 Okay?

00:18:52.000 But it was more the free love movement, the feminist movement.

00:18:55.000 If you look at what they were actively fighting for, it was never about free speech.

00:18:58.000 As a matter of fact, you can still find plenty of examples of them being offended and not wanting people to say what they thought were hateful things.

00:19:04.000 They maybe didn't use the terminology hate speech.

00:19:06.000 So this is what I want to hear from other people.

00:19:08.000 A lot of people think that, well, it was the catalyst.

00:19:10.000 It was Berkeley, the free speech movement.

00:19:11.000 That's actually not what hippies were about.

00:19:13.000 I also find it ironic they have the free speech circle in Berkeley.

00:19:16.000 We used to have it.

00:19:17.000 It was called America.

00:19:19.000 Coast to coast, right?

00:19:20.000 But they haven't supported free speech much.

00:19:22.000 No, and it's almost like people just take it at such face value.

00:19:25.000 There's really a problem with people saying, well, Black Lives Matter is against hate and bigotry.

00:19:30.000 That's what they said on the marquee.

00:19:32.000 That's what the Flyers said.

00:19:33.000 That's what's anti-fascist.

00:19:35.000 Yeah.

00:19:35.000 They must hate, really hate fascism.

00:19:37.000 You know, so it's like you got to look beyond just what the title was of the movement because it's, you know.

00:19:41.000 They co-opted it.

00:19:41.000 I mean, they absolutely co-opted it.

00:19:43.000 I'm not against, by the way, the free speech movement.

00:19:45.000 Of course not.

00:19:46.000 When you look at what happened back then, and I think, if I'm not mistaken, Reagan was governor and they weren't allowed to have political activism on campus.

00:19:51.000 I get it.

00:19:52.000 I think they were right with that.

00:19:53.000 But the point is, that was never the main component of the hippie movement.

00:19:57.000 It wasn't like there was a huge movement across the country on all these different campuses.

00:20:02.000 Campi, I I'm always confused about that.

00:20:04.000 So I think one of the things, too, is I know that we're going back to Berkeley because of the 1960s stuff, but I also kind of think it's because you know you're going to get some protests occasionally.

00:20:13.000 I'm okay with that.

00:20:14.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:20:14.000 I'm just saying, as somebody who supports free speech...

00:20:17.000 Sometimes I kind of wonder, did they co-opt it in the 60s?

00:20:20.000 Are we kind of co-opting it a little bit right now just to get something on the news?

00:20:24.000 Milo's a flamethrower.

00:20:25.000 He always has been a flamethrower.

00:20:27.000 I support his right to do it.

00:20:28.000 I understand what you're talking about with him and Milo, with Milo as an example, but Ben Shapiro wasn't.

00:20:32.000 No, Ben Shapiro wasn't, and nobody, I mean, they went and sat in.

00:20:34.000 I mean, I guess that's...

00:20:35.000 Or me going to UMass or when I was at Cal Poly, I wasn't.

00:20:39.000 That's just why I stopped doing colleges.

00:20:40.000 It was like either I'm going to be able to perform or I'm not.

00:20:43.000 And now we're talking about maybe going back and starting to do colleges again, me, Jared, and Owen, because who cares?

00:20:47.000 If they boo us out, yeah.

00:20:49.000 Yeah, and I haven't really heard much of anything about Antifa and stuff this week at Berkeley.

00:20:52.000 I don't know if they're just like a little tuckered out, a little spent from their vegan diets or...

00:20:56.000 Yeah.

00:20:57.000 They have the vitamin B going.

00:20:58.000 They're scouting for law enforcement.

00:20:59.000 A lot of people don't realize how deep the Antifa stuff goes.

00:21:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:03.000 We'll have some insight into that next week.

00:21:04.000 But they haven't supported free speech.

00:21:06.000 You can say, okay, there was this incident at Berkeley in the 60s.

00:21:08.000 Fine.

00:21:09.000 Any example since then?

00:21:10.000 For example, in the 80s, it was Reagan's FCC that wanted to eliminate the Fairness Doctrine, which controlled freedom of speech at the press.

00:21:17.000 And I know some people say, fairness doctrine, it sounds so good, just like net neutrality.

00:21:21.000 No, if you want to be consistent on the freedom train, right?

00:21:25.000 It was Ronald Reagan.

00:21:26.000 Democrats have repeatedly tried to bring it back.

00:21:28.000 Hmm.

00:21:29.000 Again, there's no consistency since then.

00:21:31.000 Bring that up as an overlay.

00:21:32.000 Don't you have that as an overlay?

00:21:32.000 Yeah, it already came up.

00:21:33.000 Oh, I didn't see it.

00:21:36.000 So, case in point two in Vox, okay?

00:21:39.000 They go on to list the most severe...

00:21:43.000 Yeah.

00:21:44.000 Severe aggressions against free speech from Milo's person.

00:21:47.000 So you can see their own list at Vox.

00:21:48.000 They write this.

00:21:49.000 He repeatedly argued on real time with Bill Maher that trans people are disordered.

00:21:54.000 Yeah, but the DSM-5, the authority for psychiatrists, clearly lists gender dysphoria as a mental disorder.

00:22:02.000 I just don't, I mean, so again, they would, for example, if they had Milo up there saying, like, he screamed the N-word at the top of his lungs and he said that he wanted to gas the Jews, like, you think someone would say, hey, maybe that should make the cut over him quoting the DSM-5.

00:22:15.000 Yeah, some would say a scientific conversation.

00:22:16.000 No, let's go with that.

00:22:18.000 He declared his birthday World Patriarchy Day.

00:22:22.000 It's just funny, come on!

00:22:24.000 The sting is real.

00:22:25.000 We've lost our sense of humor.

00:22:27.000 He's just like the slave drivers in the cotton fields. 1.00

00:22:30.000 Then they cite other speakers as hateful and bigoted.

00:22:35.000 Again, you got one bright spot, Berkeley in the 60s.

00:22:38.000 Anything since then?

00:22:39.000 This is Vox.

00:22:40.000 This is not just Yiannopoulos.

00:22:41.000 Several other attendees have a history of making hateful, bigoted remarks.

00:22:44.000 All right, I'm prepped for it.

00:22:45.000 There you go.

00:22:47.000 Steve Bannon has repeatedly backed anti-immigrant causes.

00:22:50.000 By the way, we need to also have that liberal lexicon.

00:22:53.000 Anti-immigrant means illegal immigration.

00:22:55.000 Yes.

00:22:55.000 Let's be clear.

00:22:56.000 So let's...

00:22:57.000 Undocumented citizens.

00:23:00.000 He's repeatedly backed anti-criminal causes.

00:23:05.000 All right.

00:23:05.000 You be the judge.

00:23:06.000 Coulter has similarly taken hardline anti-criminal immigrant stances over the years.

00:23:12.000 Pamela Geller runs an anti-Islam blog... 0.98

00:23:17.000 I just, I mean, then it goes out to say she supports the Muslim ban.

00:23:20.000 But when you're talking about hate speech, you're like, she runs a Tumblr!

00:23:25.000 It's like, PBS is a TV channel!

00:23:28.000 Oh my gosh!

00:23:29.000 It's just, it's just facts!

00:23:30.000 The fact that someone runs an anti-Islam blog.

00:23:32.000 What they mean by anti-Islam is anti-Sharia law.

00:23:35.000 Right.

00:23:35.000 Anti-violations of all the other rights that you claim to support.

00:23:39.000 That kind of a blog.

00:23:40.000 And by the way, and it's a blog.

00:23:42.000 I mean, this is, and the only reason that these people know about Pamela Geller is because angry Muslims tried to kill her in Texas.

00:23:49.000 And so they decide to give her more guff inside with the people, the ideology of folks who've tried to kill her.

00:23:57.000 Hey, hey, I wonder why she might possibly have an issue with Islam.

00:24:03.000 Hmm.

00:24:03.000 Can anyone think of it?

00:24:05.000 And supported Trump's Muslim ban, which, by the way, is not a Muslim.

00:24:07.000 We haven't talked about it in a long time.

00:24:08.000 You know why?

00:24:09.000 Because it turned out it wasn't a Muslim ban.

00:24:10.000 It wasn't a Muslim ban.

00:24:11.000 It was in the news for a week, like Russia for a week.

00:24:13.000 So this is what's important.

00:24:15.000 When the left says, yeah, free speech button.

00:24:17.000 You see this from Vox, by the way.

00:24:18.000 And Vox is constantly used as a source.

00:24:20.000 But YouTube just cannot trend Vox enough, cannot feature them enough.

00:24:25.000 Snopes, PolitiFact, Vox, they're used as these beacons.

00:24:28.000 Remember, we've talked about this before.

00:24:29.000 the Southern Poverty Law Center, of unbiased truth.

00:24:33.000 And Vox is effectively making the claim here, if you actually read what they're saying, that being against radical Islamic terror and supporting reasonable legal immigration policies is now somehow hateful and bigoted.

00:24:46.000 And if you don't want to talk to them about it because they just said you might be hateful and bigoted, you really are violating free speech.

00:24:52.000 Yeah, Gerald, don't have to go.

00:24:53.000 I think they're missing the free part of speech.

00:24:55.000 Even if all of that is true, it is still free speech for a reason.

00:24:59.000 It's not free speech according to you.

00:25:01.000 It's free speech.

00:25:01.000 They can say it.

00:25:02.000 Just choose not to listen.

00:25:03.000 You kind of started out with a bumper sticker slogan and didn't know where to take it.

00:25:06.000 Isn't that what happened there?

00:25:06.000 A little bit.

00:25:09.000 Freedom isn't free!

00:25:11.000 Oh, I gotta say more than that.

00:25:13.000 He didn't take over.

00:25:14.000 No, you're right.

00:25:15.000 But it is one of the simplest things in the world.

00:25:17.000 Either free speech is absolute or it's not.

00:25:20.000 Not just when you agree, but it's your speech.

00:25:22.000 That's the whole point is when you don't agree with it.

00:25:24.000 That's when it counts.

00:25:25.000 And shut up about the yelling fire in a crowded theater, okay?

00:25:28.000 It's the dumbest thing.

00:25:29.000 All that tells you when you make that argument is that you're likely a mongoloid. 1.00

00:25:32.000 Who's just binged.

00:25:33.000 Yes.

00:25:35.000 Yeah, you're probably still typing on a Word document that has that bent back paperclip.

00:25:39.000 Did you mean to say?

00:25:42.000 I hate that paperclip.

00:25:43.000 Microsoft Paint.

00:25:44.000 He's such a little pretentious...

00:25:46.000 You have that purple gorilla going across your screen to search. 0.59

00:25:49.000 What was his name?

00:25:50.000 Some bonsai buddy? 0.92

00:25:51.000 Oh yeah.

00:25:51.000 I don't know.

00:25:52.000 Grombe has replacements.

00:25:53.000 We never talked about important things.

00:25:54.000 Early internet was just absolutely awful.

00:25:56.000 How did we survive?

00:25:57.000 Put it this way.

00:25:58.000 If you say, hey, but speech doesn't allow you to yell fire in a crowded theater.

00:26:02.000 First of all, it's just so silly.

00:26:03.000 Yes, it does actually.

00:26:05.000 If I'm in a theater and I say, nah, fire, because there's a funny fire scene in that movie, it's fine.

00:26:12.000 If I yell fire pointing to the alarm to try and get somebody to pull the fire alarm and people run out of that theater and someone gets hurt and trampled, it is the call to action.

00:26:23.000 That's not about speech.

00:26:24.000 It is so elementary that if you actually make that argument, I think you probably still use Ask Jeeves.

00:26:32.000 We'll be back, right?

00:26:34.000 With Clint Howard.

00:26:35.000 We'll make sure we get him during the break.

00:26:37.000 Do we have him?

00:26:38.000 I don't know.

00:26:39.000 Maybe.

00:26:40.000 Go on Crowder, get you!

00:26:58.000 Who's this queer fella on the piano? 1.00

00:27:01.000 Damn it!

00:27:02.000 Roy, that's Owen Benjamin.

00:27:04.000 He's a trained musician and comedian.

00:27:06.000 I don't like him.

00:27:08.000 Yankee motherfucker! 1.00

00:27:09.000 You better watch yourself, Roy.

00:27:10.000 That man is a classically, professionally trained pianist.

00:27:13.000 He can play Bach.

00:27:15.000 F*** queer. 1.00

00:27:16.000 Colton, I'm classically trained too, you know.

00:27:19.000 Damn it, Josephine! 1.00

00:27:20.000 You don't know s*** about music!

00:27:21.000 I do too!

00:27:23.000 I almost got my degree at Juilliard!

00:27:25.000 Listen!

00:27:29.000 You sound like s***, Josephine!

00:27:31.000 So much s***, Josephine!

00:27:33.000 Yeah, okay, well...

00:27:36.000 Hold on.

00:27:36.000 Now, Josephine, you wouldn't know she's a classical guy when he crawled up in your sorry fat ass and died in it!

00:27:41.000 Yeah, fat ass bitch! 1.00

00:27:43.000 Okay, well now, I get it, but I got it.

00:27:46.000 You don't even have no fucking degree, Josephine! 0.79

00:27:50.000 I told you I was one credit short before I had to have the baby! 1.00

00:27:54.000 See, that's the difference between you and me, Josephine.

00:27:56.000 You ain't got no certification.

00:27:59.000 I went through the process that's required to become a certified reverend!

00:28:05.000 Colm, you just bought that on the internet.

00:28:08.000 Dammit Josephine, I am an ordained minister doing the good work of our lord and savior Jesus Christ!

00:28:13.000 You blaspheming b****? 0.99

00:28:14.000 Okay!

00:28:16.000 Colm, when are you gonna bring home a paycheck?

00:28:19.000 Dammit, I done told you I deal in the currency of lost souls, Josephine! 0.99

00:28:25.000 And his license is suspended.

00:28:27.000 Would you shut the f**k up, Roy?

00:28:30.000 All right, let's just go.

00:28:50.000 He has no social media to plug.

00:28:54.000 What in the actual hell?

00:28:56.000 So Clint Howard, you knew you had an interview.

00:28:58.000 First off, we're glad that you made it today.

00:29:01.000 I know you were going to be yesterday.

00:29:02.000 Everything's good?

00:29:03.000 Everything's okay?

00:29:05.000 Yeah, it was...

00:29:06.000 My phone was having a little trouble.

00:29:08.000 Gee, I wonder how that happened.

00:29:10.000 Yes, yes.

00:29:11.000 Well, we heard that you'd been torn apart by a pack of wild dogs and wished you a swift recovery, so we're glad to see that you're still standing.

00:29:19.000 I was in North Korea.

00:29:21.000 Yes.

00:29:22.000 Got a little scratched up, but I'm fine.

00:29:24.000 You and Dennis Rodman, you're going to be our ambassadors.

00:29:27.000 What a country!

00:29:29.000 What a country!

00:29:30.000 Can you imagine the pride of, like, supporting the North Korean lacrosse team?

00:29:38.000 Explain.

00:29:41.000 I mean, are they...

00:29:42.000 I don't think they...

00:29:43.000 Yeah, explain.

00:29:44.000 They probably don't play lacrosse.

00:29:46.000 Do they have dog racing?

00:29:48.000 I know they have dog eating people.

00:29:50.000 I know they have dog eating racing contests.

00:29:53.000 Yeah, it's kind of like hot dog festivals, but...

00:29:54.000 Yeah, except they eat...

00:29:55.000 Actually, it's dog meat eating festivals.

00:29:57.000 It's dogs.

00:29:59.000 Pretty good.

00:30:00.000 Pretty soon they're going to have, what do they call him, the supreme leader?

00:30:04.000 Yeah, the supreme leader.

00:30:05.000 They're going to put him on the menu here pretty soon.

00:30:07.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:30:08.000 I think he might put himself on the menu.

00:30:10.000 Okay, so there we go.

00:30:11.000 I was going to ask you why you're weak.

00:30:13.000 Do you have strong opinions on North Korea?

00:30:15.000 Donald Trump went before the U.N. and said we might completely destroy them.

00:30:18.000 Is Clint Howard on the decimate train?

00:30:22.000 No.

00:30:24.000 Doesn't President Trump sound like he's playing with, like, one of those big model railroad sets from time to time?

00:30:31.000 Yes.

00:30:32.000 Power on, North Korea! 0.83

00:30:34.000 We'll blow it up!

00:30:36.000 I'll go down and get some gasoline and we'll burn those soldiers. 0.93

00:30:40.000 Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, but you can pick worse places to burn, right?

00:30:45.000 You know, I don't know.

00:30:47.000 All right.

00:30:48.000 I'll tell you what.

00:30:49.000 If you go to Google Maps and just see what North Korea looks like from a few miles up, Even though, you know, you can see South Korea from a fairly close distance and then they make you back up, you know, at least, you know, the consumer version, they back up.

00:31:04.000 And North Korea doesn't exactly look like, you know, the hotbed of a spa and leisure activities.

00:31:11.000 No, that's just Clint Howard's house, apparently.

00:31:13.000 Is this at your abode?

00:31:16.000 Oh, yes.

00:31:17.000 Yes, yes.

00:31:17.000 This is my, not to get cute about this, but my mother, 14 years ago on her deathbed, was pleading with me like I've never heard anybody say, you gotta get a jacuzzi.

00:31:34.000 What's cute about that?

00:31:36.000 Well, she was on her deathbed.

00:31:39.000 Yeah, that's not cute.

00:31:40.000 That's horrifying, Clint.

00:31:41.000 Way to bring it down.

00:31:43.000 No, she desperately wanted her son to have a jacuzzi.

00:31:47.000 See, I have very much her body.

00:31:49.000 And, you know, I have two artificial hips.

00:31:51.000 She had one.

00:31:53.000 Ron's got a horrible hip.

00:31:55.000 Is this from years of football practice?

00:31:57.000 Just the wear and tear?

00:31:58.000 No, just being a bloodline of a couple of hicks.

00:32:05.000 The banjo from Deliverance is playing somewhere down the lineage, you're saying?

00:32:09.000 Well, actually, Hicks is more like farmer.

00:32:14.000 Okay, that's hillbilly.

00:32:15.000 So a little bit offensive.

00:32:17.000 Jethro.

00:32:18.000 Well, no, Jethro would be hillbilly.

00:32:19.000 Yeah.

00:32:20.000 I'll try to, in my mind, I'll try to figure a great Hick.

00:32:24.000 Well, my dad, he's now a sophisticated Hick. 0.69

00:32:26.000 Yeah.

00:32:27.000 Because he's had all these years in the business, and he's managed to navigate, and he's an absolute angel.

00:32:34.000 But he's a Hickish angel.

00:32:38.000 When he was starting out, knowing what I know of him, I would have given him no chance, not even one percentage point, to make it in the business.

00:32:51.000 And he says it was luck.

00:32:55.000 Now, I think there's something else besides...

00:32:59.000 No, no, no.

00:33:01.000 We almost lost the phone there.

00:33:03.000 That was a special effect.

00:33:05.000 I'll take it.

00:33:05.000 Well, okay.

00:33:07.000 Well, hey, speaking of special effects, this looks like the jacuzzi from Alien.

00:33:11.000 It looks like a gamer's chair equivalent of a jacuzzi.

00:33:14.000 What do you have going on there?

00:33:16.000 Well, I gotta be careful because does the FCC have anything to say about what pictures get revealed?

00:33:22.000 We don't care, honestly.

00:33:23.000 Honestly, just don't send it to Brett Favre because he'll pass it off as his own.

00:33:26.000 That's the captain's chair over there.

00:33:35.000 And my mom was right.

00:33:37.000 My mom was absolutely right.

00:33:39.000 You really are naked in there, aren't you, Clint?

00:33:41.000 This is how you prep.

00:33:44.000 Well, we're not prepping.

00:33:45.000 This is the real deal.

00:33:46.000 This is the real deal.

00:33:47.000 Man, listen.

00:33:47.000 The curtain has been raised.

00:33:49.000 Yes, it has.

00:33:51.000 And I apparently have not been raised, so we're doing fine.

00:33:54.000 Well, that's why we're comfortable.

00:33:56.000 That's why there's a certain level of intimacy.

00:33:57.000 So, I mean, is this...

00:33:59.000 I don't know a lot about hot tubs.

00:34:01.000 Did you specifically choose this just because it looked cool, or is there something to this?

00:34:05.000 Because it seems as though, obviously, you enjoyed enough to do your interviews from there.

00:34:10.000 Well, actually, this is the first interview.

00:34:12.000 Well, keep it going.

00:34:13.000 Every time you come on, we'll allow it.

00:34:16.000 You mean in the jacuzzi?

00:34:18.000 Yeah.

00:34:18.000 Well, I'll get in the jacuzzi with you, but you said you were going to turn the jets off, so I don't know.

00:34:22.000 Yes, yes.

00:34:23.000 You can't do an interview with the jets on, because otherwise, then you sound like a guy on an aircraft carrier talking about how Trump is just going to burn all the soldiers in the little army gang.

00:34:35.000 Well then, where are the bubbles coming from, Clint?

00:34:38.000 So let me ask you this.

00:34:41.000 You've been sending us pictures from Comic-Con.

00:34:43.000 You know, we can get into politics, but we have Clint.

00:34:45.000 What is life?

00:34:46.000 It seems like you're on the road.

00:34:47.000 You're always doing something.

00:34:48.000 You were one of the busiest men in Hollywood, it seems.

00:34:52.000 Except for now.

00:34:53.000 Well, I'm busy now.

00:34:55.000 It's true.

00:34:56.000 Thank you.

00:34:56.000 I'm actually performing my profession right now, which is communicating.

00:35:01.000 That's true.

00:35:02.000 So right now, I'm in my glory.

00:35:05.000 That is also true.

00:35:07.000 Glory.

00:35:08.000 No, you know what?

00:35:09.000 I like to stay busy because idle time is the devil's workshop.

00:35:14.000 Yeah.

00:35:15.000 Or idle hands are the devil's workshop.

00:35:17.000 Yeah.

00:35:18.000 Whatever that...

00:35:19.000 Not doing nothing is bad for you.

00:35:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:22.000 Especially if you're naked in a jacuzzi with nothing but time on your hands.

00:35:25.000 Oh, no, no, then there'd be plenty of activity.

00:35:29.000 I do have a rubber ducky I could show you later.

00:35:31.000 I don't want, no, because I don't want to go straight from that into the rubber ducky.

00:35:35.000 Anatomically correct rubber ducky.

00:35:36.000 Let's go back to politics.

00:35:37.000 Let's go back to politics.

00:35:38.000 No, no, no, I tell you what, I'm doing a couple of personal appearances.

00:35:42.000 I went and did a great horror convention called Horror Hounds.

00:35:47.000 That was it, yeah.

00:35:50.000 It's like a family.

00:35:52.000 It really is.

00:35:54.000 The people are goofy and they're horror fans.

00:36:00.000 And there's a few of them by Sunday.

00:36:01.000 They're pretty spun around the floor of the convention.

00:36:05.000 I would imagine so.

00:36:07.000 Generally speaking, what I've noticed is over the years, the genres, especially the horror genre, it's gotten younger.

00:36:15.000 Yeah.

00:36:16.000 I mean, wait, wait.

00:36:17.000 Hold on a second.

00:36:17.000 I got that backwards.

00:36:18.000 It was younger before.

00:36:20.000 Okay.

00:36:20.000 There's a lot more middle-aged people attending horror conventions now than there was 15, 20 years ago.

00:36:28.000 That's not that odd.

00:36:29.000 It just sounds like an aging process at that point.

00:36:31.000 Well, yeah.

00:36:32.000 And you know what?

00:36:33.000 They're the ones with the disposable dollars.

00:36:36.000 And another thing, too.

00:36:37.000 Another thing.

00:36:38.000 I did not overcharge.

00:36:40.000 No.

00:36:41.000 Anybody there, because, you know, I looked at the people and I saw, and, you know, these are not the Star Trek people that have flown from Europe to go to the 50th anniversary convention.

00:36:52.000 These are people with a few bucks in their pocket, and my job is not to scrape the last $20 bill out of their hands.

00:36:59.000 Yeah, you know who's notorious for that is Lou Ferrigno.

00:37:02.000 So I don't know if he's a friend, but he's been known, like, you ask him for an autograph.

00:37:05.000 First off, it's got to be the right print, and he charges a pretty penny.

00:37:08.000 I've heard that too.

00:37:09.000 Yeah, well, you know, some people figure it's show business.

00:37:13.000 Yeah.

00:37:14.000 And I just feel like there ought to be a $10 pile.

00:37:17.000 Yes.

00:37:18.000 And also...

00:37:18.000 I know what that means.

00:37:19.000 Well, a $10 pile, it's like the cheapest available photograph you can sell somebody.

00:37:24.000 The policy is, at least my policy is, you need to buy something for me to take a picture with you.

00:37:30.000 Right.

00:37:31.000 You know, in truth, the real...

00:37:36.000 Science fiction convention or the horror hound thing or comic con.

00:37:42.000 It's an opportunity for people to have content.

00:37:45.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:37:45.000 That's what they want.

00:37:46.000 We appreciate it.

00:37:47.000 Just make sure you obviously put on some drawers when you do that.

00:37:49.000 Let me ask you this.

00:37:50.000 Oh, I wear long pants.

00:37:51.000 Yeah.

00:37:51.000 And I don't go commando.

00:37:53.000 I've learned that's a bad thing.

00:37:54.000 You can go commando.

00:37:55.000 Don't go commando at a convention.

00:37:56.000 You can go commando.

00:37:57.000 You just can't tell someone because then it becomes sexual assault and you're in Bill O'Reilly territory.

00:38:01.000 Let me ask you this.

00:38:02.000 You're not that far, obviously, in Los Angeles, but California, Berkeley, Free Speech Week.

00:38:06.000 I don't know if you've been following this.

00:38:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:09.000 I follow Berkeley imminently.

00:38:12.000 I mean, you've heard about this, right?

00:38:14.000 Ben Shapiro was there, Free Speech Week, Ann Coulter and Milo are going, there are all these protests.

00:38:20.000 You know, you've been raised in California your whole life, and I maintain that actually this idea that there was a free speech movement from the left, it was never really that active.

00:38:28.000 It was more of a pro-drug, anti-war movement.

00:38:31.000 What do you feel like now, seeing these...

00:38:35.000 California, it's a totalitarian state where people don't want anything that they disagree with.

00:38:41.000 Yeah, you know, and the problem is this is not the first time I've seen liberal minded people co-opt a pretty solid idea.

00:38:50.000 Right.

00:38:51.000 And run with it.

00:38:52.000 And with the help of the press, all of a sudden, wait, wait, wait.

00:38:57.000 Fascism was never a left thing.

00:39:00.000 It was always a right thing.

00:39:02.000 Yeah.

00:39:03.000 It's amazing.

00:39:04.000 With a little bit of help, the press can read the press.

00:39:09.000 Can create a new narrative.

00:39:10.000 And all of a sudden, the left will be the ones that are leading the little people without a voice. 0.94

00:39:17.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:39:18.000 Which is so full of malarkey, it's embarrassing.

00:39:20.000 Well, they've lost that, though, now.

00:39:21.000 That's why they've lost the blue-collar worker. 0.57

00:39:23.000 They've lost everyone except for the extremists, you know, on campus in the entertainment industry.

00:39:27.000 Like, when you watch the Emmys, it was just one big take-a-steaming-crap-on-conservatives-fest.

00:39:32.000 What's that like for you?

00:39:33.000 I mean, obviously, working in the industry and having had to attend so many award shows, it's gotten so bad.

00:39:38.000 Late nights hasn't been funny in years now.

00:39:42.000 Yes.

00:39:43.000 First of all, I don't attend that many award shows.

00:39:47.000 An award show is just a commercial for the business.

00:39:50.000 And I feel like the business has taken care of me and paid me, and I've done real well.

00:39:56.000 But you know what?

00:39:58.000 I don't need to do commercials for them.

00:40:00.000 No.

00:40:01.000 No $10 pile for the Emmys.

00:40:03.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.

00:40:05.000 Emmys, that's a $20.

00:40:07.000 Everything gets doubled.

00:40:08.000 That's like Vegas, baby.

00:40:10.000 Yes.

00:40:11.000 You're going for more than scale.

00:40:13.000 I just, you know, back to the fans.

00:40:15.000 You know, that connection where you can shake their hand and ask their name and BS with them for a couple of minutes and maybe make a joke about the spelling of their name or something and then stand up and do a picture together.

00:40:28.000 You know, that means something to them.

00:40:30.000 Yeah.

00:40:31.000 And the photograph might end up disappearing, almost like my camera disappeared a few minutes ago.

00:40:38.000 It did.

00:40:38.000 But the memory, the exchange, will remain in their minds.

00:40:44.000 And I think that's what's important.

00:40:46.000 I have one story.

00:40:47.000 I may have told this.

00:40:48.000 I was in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1984 going to a minor league baseball game.

00:40:55.000 And they announced that I was in the stands.

00:40:57.000 It was the Arkansas Travelers.

00:40:59.000 I was down there working on a movie called End of the Line.

00:41:02.000 And they announced me and there was a sheer smattering of applause and then slowly but surely people started coming over.

00:41:10.000 And having me sign stuff, and I signed the bottom of the hot dog box, and I signed the inside of a bag of peanuts that had been ripped open.

00:41:21.000 But people were coming up and having a good time, and I was leaving.

00:41:23.000 It was time to go.

00:41:24.000 It was the seventh inning, and I had a call the next morning.

00:41:26.000 I called the cab, I go, and I have to stop in the old stadium-style men's room to take a leak, and I'm there at the truck, and I'm urinating, and I look down, and I'm hitting my signature.

00:41:41.000 Jeez.

00:41:42.000 My signature was on a hot dog box that was in the urinal.

00:41:49.000 And that was a humbling experience.

00:41:51.000 Maybe the guy just dropped it because, you know, he had one hot dog in one hand and then the other, you know.

00:41:56.000 No, I think he just kind of said, ah, f*** this.

00:42:00.000 Yeah.

00:42:01.000 You know, I mean, come on, let's face it.

00:42:03.000 Let's just face reality.

00:42:05.000 First of all, if he really wanted to keep it and he dropped it in the urinal, he would have picked it up.

00:42:09.000 Yeah, it depends on how determined he is, but I would.

00:42:12.000 Yeah, it looks like something caught your attention there.

00:42:15.000 It was just a humbling moment.

00:42:16.000 It was like, you know, one minute, everybody was patting me on the back and the stadium announcer was saying, ladies and gentlemen, let's give a nice little rock welcome to, you know, to I'm looking down and I'm, you know, like a cow on a flat rock.

00:42:30.000 Well, don't let that get your spirits down.

00:42:32.000 I've had people actually urinate on me.

00:42:35.000 So this has happened at stand-up clubs, so it could be worse.

00:42:39.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:42:39.000 You mean in performance?

00:42:42.000 After performance, yeah.

00:42:44.000 It was more so as they were collapsing drunk.

00:42:46.000 They didn't like it?

00:42:47.000 No, they didn't like me very much.

00:42:49.000 I was 19 and there was nothing I could do.

00:42:51.000 I needed new shoes.

00:42:53.000 Clint Howard, don't end this in a second.

00:42:55.000 Listen, everyone here loves you.

00:42:56.000 You're not on Twitter, so you don't have any way of knowing how often people are...

00:42:59.000 You're the most requested guest we have.

00:43:02.000 So no one here is pissing on your...

00:43:04.000 Seriously, I appreciate that.

00:43:05.000 And I have my little Facebook presence and...

00:43:10.000 You know, it's just...

00:43:12.000 First of all, I enjoy you.

00:43:14.000 And I enjoy the whole team.

00:43:15.000 And I enjoy the fact that I can sit here with my cell phone in my jacuzzi and do an interview with a very smart person is, to me, kind of an interesting proposition.

00:43:24.000 Well, thank you very much.

00:43:25.000 Well, listen, we have to get going because we have Anne McElhinney and Philem McAleer and then Senator Rick Santorum.

00:43:30.000 That's a weird mishmash tonight.

00:43:31.000 Oh! 0.60

00:43:32.000 Tell Senator Santorum that Clint Howard, an old FOA-er, we can say that now because they pretty much busted that thing wide open. 0.74

00:43:41.000 But Rick came and spoke, and I liked Rick.

00:43:44.000 I mean, I thought Rick was wonderful.

00:43:45.000 I'm a big believer in Rick.

00:43:47.000 I don't think Rick's presidential timber, but hell, you know, I didn't think that Donald Trump was presidential timber, and look who's sitting in the White House.

00:43:55.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:56.000 None of us, you know, if Charles Krauthammer gets it wrong half the time, you, naked in a jacuzzi, probably haven't got a shot, and neither do I at this chair.

00:44:03.000 But listen, next time we bring you back, let's get you in studio, and we'll make it a party, but pants required. 1.00

00:44:08.000 Yeah.

00:44:08.000 Yes, yes, and I've got a special snow globe that I want to show you, so we may have to do a special unveiling just for you.

00:44:16.000 It's not you, so don't get your...

00:44:17.000 No, I was going to say, we'll make sure we have a crack security quad.

00:44:20.000 That's Clint Howard, and up next, Anne McElhinney, Phil and McAleer, thank you so much for being with us, sir!

00:44:25.000 That's music!

00:44:25.000 Yeah!

00:44:26.000 Back to the jacuzzi boy They become not gay Jerry Okay, I missed that one. 1.00

00:44:49.000 But if you're gonna say not gay, does that mean this dude's- Roy!

00:44:53.000 Why don't you just get out and go home?

00:44:56.000 Don't you have beer at your place?

00:44:57.000 Nah, I ran out.

00:44:58.000 What the hell?

00:44:59.000 Just take some of my keystones.

00:45:01.000 I'll get back to your house.

00:45:02.000 Get on out here, Roy.

00:45:03.000 My dial-up won't stream HD, bro.

00:45:05.000 You know that.

00:45:07.000 Damn it, Roy.

00:45:08.000 Just take my hot spot and use that for a night.

00:45:11.000 By the time I get hooked up, I might as well stay and watch Morning Grinders.

00:45:15.000 For eight fucking hours, Roy.

00:45:20.000 We're finally going to get to use the TV! Get into the ring!

00:45:23.000 Didn't you hear our guest Roy?

00:45:24.000 He's saying to watch Morning Grinders!

00:45:27.000 Why are you such a f***ing terrible hostess? 1.00

00:45:29.000 Ain't you learned nothing about hospitality?

00:45:30.000 It's a feminine quality that's attractive in your male counterparts! 1.00

00:45:34.000 You should f***ing learn it!

00:45:35.000 Right, alright, jeez!

00:45:39.000 So it's cool if I stay?

00:45:40.000 Don't push me off, Roy.

00:45:41.000 And now listen to this.

00:45:55.000 Bye.

00:45:59.000 I'm going to go to the next one.

00:46:04.000 Alright, glad to have our next guest.

00:46:05.000 I should say guests.

00:46:06.000 We've had the missus on before, but never the mister.

00:46:10.000 And he left me a very sarcastic, a very mocking voicemail.

00:46:14.000 So you have Anne McElhinney and Philem McElhier on the show.

00:46:19.000 I hope I got both of them correct.

00:46:20.000 Philem and Anne, thank you for being here.

00:46:22.000 It's good to be here.

00:46:23.000 Thanks a million, Stephen.

00:46:24.000 And the mockery was deserved.

00:46:25.000 It was well deserved, by the way.

00:46:27.000 Here's the thing.

00:46:27.000 I can understand you now.

00:46:29.000 I can understand you in person.

00:46:30.000 You've been to Ireland.

00:46:31.000 You know, two or three days in Ireland has you sorted, Stephen.

00:46:34.000 It's true.

00:46:35.000 Now he can speak fluent.

00:46:37.000 English-Irish.

00:46:38.000 Irish-English.

00:46:39.000 No, no.

00:46:39.000 American-Irish-English.

00:46:40.000 No, let the man finish.

00:46:41.000 Let the man finish. 0.56

00:46:42.000 It has me sorted and in sore need of Zoloft.

00:46:45.000 When I had conversations with the people in Ireland, it was amazing as to how conservative they lined up on issues, and then they all said, but I hate Donald Trump.

00:46:53.000 I think Americans are cocky and stupid. 1.00

00:46:55.000 I'm like, you have no idea what you just said.

00:46:57.000 You agreed with me on nine out of ten issues, but then you somehow think that you're a liberal, and it made me so depressed.

00:47:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:04.000 Welcome to our country.

00:47:05.000 Welcome to our country.

00:47:06.000 And that's why we're not in that country, but here.

00:47:09.000 Well, we're glad to have you.

00:47:10.000 You're a national treasure.

00:47:11.000 So listen, you've done this.

00:47:12.000 I know you've done this play in Los Angeles before.

00:47:15.000 A lot of controversy.

00:47:16.000 And now explain to the audience, you are bringing the Ferguson play to the heart of theater in Manhattan.

00:47:23.000 We did a stage reading in Los Angeles, people reading the script.

00:47:27.000 Nine members of the cast walked out during rehearsals because the truth, the script, didn't match what they thought the real story of Ferguson was.

00:47:35.000 So this is a verbatim play.

00:47:37.000 I am only using grand jury testimony.

00:47:40.000 It's only taken directly from the grand jury and it's the build-up to the shooting of Michael Brown from eyewitnesses, many of them minorities.

00:47:47.000 And the truth is Stranger than fiction, but it also matches nothing what the mainstream media said.

00:47:54.000 The mainstream media is the real fiction here.

00:47:55.000 So I'm bringing it to Manhattan, right to the heart of Manhattan, to the Urban Stages Theatre.

00:48:02.000 And I was partially inspired, by the way, by the way the audiences at Hamilton and the cast at Hamilton treated Vice President Mike Pence.

00:48:11.000 Yeah, so is this off-Broadway, or is it off-off-Broadway, or is it off-off-off?

00:48:16.000 Off-off-Broadway.

00:48:17.000 Okay.

00:48:18.000 What would have been best is you showcase this at the Apollo.

00:48:20.000 Just have Damon Wayans come out.

00:48:22.000 And up next, oh, shit!

00:48:27.000 So what is the reaction?

00:48:28.000 Because in Los Angeles, you got a lot of flack.

00:48:30.000 And I remember when people spoke with some of these actors or participants, they said, well, I just can't do it.

00:48:35.000 It was too offensive.

00:48:35.000 And they were asked, well, what about the fact that it's based on testimony?

00:48:38.000 And they had no answer.

00:48:39.000 They just said it's too inflammatory.

00:48:40.000 I remember thinking, inflammatory to the point of perhaps inciting false riots, you know?

00:48:45.000 So what's the reaction like right now as you bring this to New York?

00:48:50.000 Well, it's quiet.

00:48:51.000 So far, nothing.

00:48:53.000 So far, it's quiet.

00:48:55.000 It's early days.

00:48:56.000 It's early days yet.

00:48:57.000 And by the way, isn't theatre supposed to be inflammatory?

00:49:01.000 If they weren't so busy giving themselves awards for being brave and courageous, it's actually time for them to be brave and courageous.

00:49:11.000 I think it's like an inflamer, Tori.

00:49:14.000 Yes.

00:49:14.000 Lots of flamers.

00:49:15.000 Like, don't give an award.

00:49:16.000 It's like, rent is one of the longest.

00:49:17.000 We're going to give it another award this year.

00:49:19.000 It's about people getting AIDS, having gay sex, and truck stops shooting heroin. 0.92

00:49:23.000 They're on borrowed time.

00:49:24.000 Let's move on from this.

00:49:26.000 So it really is.

00:49:27.000 I think you see that with the Emmys.

00:49:29.000 The ratings are, I don't even know what it is with the Tonys, but it is so self-important.

00:49:33.000 To me, what really bothers me, and I think this ties back into the Hamilton issue with a Vice President, I was going to say Governor Pence, but it's Vice President Mike Pence, is just the assumption that everyone agrees with you.

00:49:45.000 You know, he was in there, and it's the assumption that, well, everyone in the audience thinks it's fine.

00:49:49.000 No one would have a problem with me berating the Vice President of the United States.

00:49:53.000 It was like, exactly as you say, Stephen, it was like at the Emmys, you know, and Phelan and I have had a big conversation about this.

00:49:59.000 It's incredible to me that they would be so, like, they're, you know, speaking ill of half of their audience, half.

00:50:06.000 A whole half of their audience, of all these shows, of all these shows that are on, you know, everywhere, half of the audience are people who think it's a great thing that Donald Trump is the President of the United States.

00:50:18.000 Right.

00:50:18.000 And they just completely ignore that.

00:50:20.000 And it's like, just from a commercial point of view, it's beyond belief, you know, how the derangement syndrome that they're, you know, they're living in this kind of Really weird world.

00:50:29.000 It's like that bubble where they actually don't know anyone who's voted for Donald Trump, except for they do know people who've voted for Donald Trump.

00:50:36.000 And they're too scared to say it because you won't be invited to Thanksgiving or whatever.

00:50:40.000 Yeah, well, you won't be invited to the next Tony's.

00:50:42.000 You know, it's funny.

00:50:43.000 I think I'll even give them some ground and say, OK, not even half.

00:50:45.000 But let's say there's 20 percent who are huge Hillary Clinton fans, 20 percent who are huge Donald Trump fans.

00:50:50.000 And then there's that portion of the middle like, OK, let's see what happens.

00:50:53.000 It's kind of like Owen Benjamin, our friend was talking about.

00:50:55.000 He says, you know, There's a small group of people who the left points to with Charlottesville who go, yeah, white people!

00:51:01.000 And then there's, the liberals want us to think that all of us need to be, uh, white people.

00:51:04.000 But most of America is like, eh, white people. 0.85

00:51:07.000 You know, there's this guilt complex and they use this small radical minority of people who genuinely are racist and try and apply that to Ferguson and then obfuscate the truth.

00:51:16.000 Let me ask you this, because there have been so many since you've, you know, started this project, The Play of Ferguson.

00:51:21.000 I mean, just recently, was it at, um...

00:51:23.000 In Georgia.

00:51:24.000 Was it, what's it, University of Georgia?

00:51:26.000 Georgia Tech.

00:51:27.000 Was it Georgia Tech?

00:51:27.000 Georgia Tech.

00:51:28.000 A suicide by cop fire.

00:51:30.000 If you watch the video, it couldn't be more clear where a man is walking toward a police officer with a gun.

00:51:34.000 Out of his mind.

00:51:35.000 Out of his mind, demanding to be shot.

00:51:36.000 Riots.

00:51:37.000 After that, do you feel as though you've been somewhat vindicated of this controversy considering how many cases have been debunked since the start of it?

00:51:48.000 Well, I mean, Ferguson is the origin myth for the Black Lives Matter. 1.00

00:51:52.000 And it hasn't been debunked.

00:51:55.000 Yeah, I mean, funny, I wanted to kind of show you this.

00:51:57.000 Guys, the technical guys, I hope they can see that.

00:52:00.000 This is an article from the New York Times from yesterday.

00:52:04.000 So after Ferguson, the latest Ferguson shooting, which again, you know, this case hasn't been heard yet.

00:52:09.000 You know, there'll be a lengthy trial, etc., Sorry, there has been a lengthy trial, and in a lengthy trial, with a proper legal system, you know, the cop was vindicated.

00:52:19.000 And here's the story, but I mean, it's really worth looking at the photograph.

00:52:22.000 I'm not going to lie to you, we can't see it, your screen just went dark.

00:52:25.000 But you know what, we'll do our best to get it up here in the next...

00:52:28.000 Basically, it's a guy, the New York Times have a photograph with a guy with his hands up.

00:52:31.000 Hands up, don't shoot.

00:52:33.000 Synchronized guesting?

00:52:34.000 You're both...

00:52:34.000 That's a screenshot.

00:52:36.000 That's going to be a GIF right there.

00:52:37.000 All right, continue.

00:52:39.000 There we go.

00:52:39.000 We can do it again.

00:52:40.000 So basically, this is a lie.

00:52:41.000 This is a lie.

00:52:42.000 This is a lie.

00:52:44.000 But that lie has traveled the globe.

00:52:46.000 Many times.

00:52:47.000 We were here in LA. And by the way, we didn't do this.

00:52:50.000 We didn't buy these tickets ourselves.

00:52:51.000 Somebody bought tickets for us to go to see Bono on YouTube.

00:52:55.000 YouTube.

00:52:56.000 YouTube.

00:52:57.000 Oh, look at me.

00:52:58.000 Well, actually, he's good friends with Senator Santorum.

00:53:00.000 Look at me being very middle-aged.

00:53:03.000 It's YouTube or it's the U2 now.

00:53:05.000 I don't know which one it is now.

00:53:06.000 So...

00:53:06.000 But he's actually good friends with Senator Rick Santorum, who's coming up next.

00:53:09.000 He's come around a little bit, but he can be a douche, yeah.

00:53:12.000 Well, I'll tell you one thing, and I would like the senator, by the way, to please give him some instruction on what actually happened in Ferguson.

00:53:18.000 Because he did his world tour, and during his world tour, one of the pieces, the set pieces, was this really, really long stage, and he walked the length of it.

00:53:18.000 Oh, awesome.

00:53:26.000 Hands up, don't shoot.

00:53:28.000 Hands up, don't shoot.

00:53:29.000 And we're sitting there thinking, you know, it's time for us to go right now.

00:53:32.000 Because he was propagating that lie.

00:53:35.000 Michael Brown did not have his hands up saying, hands up, don't you?

00:53:39.000 He had his hands in the cookie jar at the gas station.

00:53:42.000 His hands used to assault the owner of the convenience store.

00:53:47.000 His hands were used to assault the police officer to try and grab his gun.

00:53:50.000 And his hands were used to run towards the police officer to try and kill him.

00:53:54.000 But his hands were never there.

00:53:56.000 And what is amazing about the play, about the Ferguson play, which we said is verbatim, it's all the words of actual witnesses at the trial and one of the most powerful moments.

00:54:04.000 And I hope, Stephen, if you're anywhere near New York, any of the people listening now are near New York, please come.

00:54:11.000 Give them a date and time right now.

00:54:12.000 The exact date and time?

00:54:14.000 From October 19th to November 5th, 16 performances, Manhattan.

00:54:20.000 Go to fergusontheplay.com.

00:54:21.000 www.fergusontheplay.com.

00:54:24.000 And if you can't go, but you believe in what we're trying to achieve here, give us a dollar.

00:54:28.000 Give us a thousand dollars.

00:54:30.000 Somebody did this morning.

00:54:31.000 God bless them and save them.

00:54:33.000 We're crowdfunding to make this thing happen.

00:54:35.000 The Manhattan theatrical establishment, they've already said to Mike Pence and all of us, no Conservatives welcome here.

00:54:41.000 So I'm saying, I'm here.

00:54:43.000 I'm going there.

00:54:44.000 I'm going into the heart of your city.

00:54:45.000 And we're telling the truth.

00:54:46.000 Which, by the way, might be kind of surprising for some of the people who go to the theatre in New York City.

00:54:50.000 It could be inflammatory.

00:54:50.000 It could be shocking.

00:54:51.000 And...

00:54:51.000 Yeah.

00:54:52.000 Oh, inflammatory!

00:54:54.000 Behave yourself!

00:54:55.000 FergusonThePlay.com.

00:54:56.000 We're crowdfunding us because the establishment won't fund us.

00:54:59.000 They'd rather fund, as you say, rent, where, oh my god, if you live a terrible lifestyle, you make it is.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, I know, I know.

00:55:05.000 We had a debate about that.

00:55:06.000 I gave my dog AIDS in a sketch.

00:55:08.000 It's okay.

00:55:09.000 Hopper's actually on the way out now.

00:55:10.000 Because it was...

00:55:11.000 We did a history lesson on the AIDS epidemic and how it was a hoax from the media.

00:55:16.000 And this is, again, people don't understand that this idea, and same thing with Ferguson, we've talked about this so much on the show, this idea of focusing on victim culture, and let's say it creates actual victims.

00:55:26.000 So when you lie about AIDS, when you say anyone can get AIDS through any sexual practice, you're just as at risk if you're a non-intravenous heterosexual drug user.

00:55:34.000 If you're none of those things, what happens is AIDS gets all of this funding.

00:55:38.000 Bono played a huge role in that.

00:55:39.000 And the kid with type 1 diabetes gets a fraction of it because he doesn't have a celebrity campaign.

00:55:43.000 Same thing with Ferguson.

00:55:44.000 What people don't understand is these kids hear this, it gives them license to go out and treat cops horribly, to behave terribly, and then they put themselves in precarious...

00:55:53.000 You create actual victims.

00:55:55.000 And it's not that you don't care, it's that you care about the real potential victims.

00:56:01.000 Absolutely.

00:56:02.000 So we really hope that people come and see the play, and if they can't come and see the play, we really hope that they'll donate to make this happen.

00:56:09.000 You know, this is exactly what our side, if you like, this is what the Conservatives don't do.

00:56:12.000 I mean, I don't know, when was the last time there was a Conservative play with a Conservative point of view telling the truth on Broadway?

00:56:20.000 You know, it just doesn't happen.

00:56:21.000 And I think the response we've had already, about 25% of the money is raised already, has kind of proved to us that people all over the place, you know, we've had people like literally all over the place.

00:56:29.000 I mean, one of the donors donated.

00:56:31.000 He's American, but he's living in Indonesia.

00:56:33.000 You know, we got those kind of people are, you know, really believe strongly in what we're trying to do.

00:56:38.000 And we're very proud.

00:56:39.000 And the play is unbelievable, by the way, Stephen.

00:56:42.000 It is unbelievable.

00:56:43.000 The stint reading was incredible.

00:56:44.000 Ann Coulter was in the front row beside me.

00:56:48.000 And Ann Coulter basically said her biggest problem was that the play didn't have a longer run.

00:56:54.000 Dennis Prager saw it and said it was an unbelievable night of theatre.

00:56:58.000 He said it was life-changing, that it actually changed his life.

00:57:02.000 So honestly, it's an amazing night.

00:57:05.000 October 19th to November 5th.

00:57:07.000 And if you can't come to New York for that, it's fergusontheplay.com.

00:57:10.000 And if you come, Phelan and I will be there.

00:57:13.000 There are pints to be had.

00:57:14.000 There's chat to be had.

00:57:15.000 Absolutely.

00:57:16.000 Well, listen, maybe we can see if we can make it work.

00:57:18.000 And let's see if, especially if there are any protesters showing up.

00:57:20.000 So that's fergusontheplay.com.

00:57:23.000 People can go there, donate, help support it.

00:57:25.000 And I'm interested to see what comes of this.

00:57:27.000 And this is like the Irish male, female, diamond and silk meet Abbott and Costello. 0.71

00:57:31.000 Philemon Anne, thank you so much.

00:57:31.000 It is.

00:57:32.000 We'll have you back soon as the play.

00:57:34.000 We'll see what unfolds.

00:57:35.000 All right.

00:57:37.000 Up next, Senator Rick Santorum.

00:57:38.000 I might ask him about Bono.

00:57:40.000 I'm with you.

00:57:41.000 I'm with you.

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00:58:04.000 This would be an $800 grit gaffe if I frigging...

00:58:08.000 This is teetering on the edge of Apple disaster here.

00:58:13.000 When you go back and look at clips of Don Knotts doing comedy, there was nobody better ever.

00:58:20.000 As broad as Don was, he...

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00:59:04.000 Yeah, I know, because there have been so many since then.

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00:59:11.000 We did a lot for Harvey, and we're going to tally up those numbers and get them for you next week.

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01:01:12.000 Glad to have our next guest.

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01:01:14.000 I'm sure this is why the bookers, their producers, they're not coming back.

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01:01:19.000 You know him.

01:01:19.000 You can follow him on Twitter at Rick Santorum.

01:01:22.000 Senator.

01:01:23.000 United States former senator.

01:01:24.000 Guy right now.

01:01:25.000 He's obviously all over the television and the interwebs.

01:01:28.000 Senator Santorum, thanks for being with us, sir.

01:01:30.000 Thank you, Stephen.

01:01:31.000 Good to be with you for the first time, actually.

01:01:33.000 On the show.

01:01:33.000 That's true.

01:01:34.000 On the show.

01:01:34.000 Yeah.

01:01:35.000 We know each other.

01:01:36.000 I was just at his daughter's wedding in Ireland, and I was telling him it was wonderful.

01:01:39.000 It was in a castle, and after that, nothing I've done for my wife is good enough.

01:01:42.000 Thank you.

01:01:43.000 Thank you for that, sir.

01:01:45.000 Yeah.

01:01:46.000 Yeah, you're just enriching one life at a time.

01:01:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:01:50.000 No, we literally walk in to an old Irish castle.

01:01:53.000 And I'm sitting there going, ah, okay.

01:01:56.000 I know what's going to happen when I get home.

01:01:57.000 It's going to have an argument.

01:01:58.000 Well, you never got me an Irish castle.

01:02:00.000 Oh, is that again?

01:02:02.000 Okay, so you're obviously sort of making the rounds.

01:02:06.000 For people who don't know, we have this bill now.

01:02:08.000 This bill, it looks like it might get passed, you know, Republican health care bill.

01:02:11.000 Graham Cassidy, let's put Jimmy Kimmel's comments aside for a second.

01:02:16.000 Give us kind of just the summary of it for people who have no idea.

01:02:20.000 How is it different from the other bills that never went through?

01:02:23.000 Yeah, it's similar in some respects and different in a major respect.

01:02:27.000 It's similar in that both bills block grant Medicaid.

01:02:33.000 So it takes a federal entitlement Medicaid and it puts it on a, what's called, it's actually called a per capita cap.

01:02:39.000 What's that mean?

01:02:40.000 That means that they're going to get so much money per person under Medicaid.

01:02:46.000 And so it's not an open-ended entitlement anymore.

01:02:49.000 In other words, it's we're gonna give so much per person, we're not just gonna reimburse whatever the state spends.

01:02:56.000 So that's some limitation on the growth of Medicaid.

01:03:00.000 Frankly, it's not a whole lot because we grow the cap, if you will, every year by the rate roughly of medical inflation, a little higher in the early years at medical inflation in the later years.

01:03:15.000 So what does that mean?

01:03:16.000 The people who are complaining about that, and this was, again, in the other bill, so it's the same as in our bill, the people who are complaining about it are saying that this is a big cut to Medicaid.

01:03:26.000 But think about this, Stephen.

01:03:28.000 We're growing the Medicaid pot because the per capita allocation for each person is going to grow at medical inflation.

01:03:35.000 That's the aggregate inflation in medicine.

01:03:38.000 Sure.

01:03:38.000 And so what we're saying is Medicaid is now going to have to grow at that level that all medicine is growing at.

01:03:44.000 Right.

01:03:45.000 Well, it's very comparable, I would say, for a lot of people, because we've talked about this in the show quite a bit, in ways to the idea of a school voucher program, where instead of just giving it into an endless supply of a public school that isn't working, you attach it to the student.

01:03:55.000 And in that case, more students would go to public schools and private schools, so there would be a larger pool.

01:04:01.000 So the bottom line is, this is really the key, though.

01:04:05.000 The growth rate is what people are complaining about.

01:04:07.000 They're saying that's an unrealistic growth rate.

01:04:09.000 But think about this.

01:04:10.000 Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris and all these people went out, Cory Booker went out last week and said, we need Medicare for everybody because it's a more efficient, it's a better system, it's better quality, and it's lower cost.

01:04:25.000 But they're complaining that That Medicaid, with a cap at medical inflation, is gonna fail.

01:04:35.000 So think about it.

01:04:37.000 What's medical inflation?

01:04:39.000 Well, that's the aggregate amount that everybody spends on medical care.

01:04:42.000 And if Medicaid is gonna fail because it You can't keep up with the average, which means they're higher costs.

01:04:51.000 Right, exactly.

01:04:52.000 Well, a lot of people don't realize fewer and fewer doctors are taking it as well.

01:04:55.000 It's become a real problem.

01:04:56.000 And when we talk about the people who are left in the cold because of the Affordable Care Act, there are tens of millions of Americans who can no longer afford their plans.

01:05:03.000 There are millions who their plans that included Medicaid aren't taken.

01:05:07.000 You know, my in-laws, they've had a real problem with it.

01:05:10.000 I think the issue you're running into, because you're trying to make sense of the hypocrisy from Bernie Sanders, none of that is the case.

01:05:16.000 It's just that it's a human right.

01:05:17.000 That's the end game.

01:05:18.000 So they don't want to work with you on that.

01:05:20.000 No, they don't.

01:05:21.000 But to me, that's a very reasonable way of approaching the Medicaid program.

01:05:25.000 We keep that.

01:05:26.000 That was in the original bill.

01:05:27.000 Here's the big difference.

01:05:28.000 The big difference is we take—that's traditional Medicaid.

01:05:32.000 That's Medicaid before Barack Obama expanded Medicaid. 0.98

01:05:36.000 So what we do in our bill is we take the Medicaid expansion and eliminate it.

01:05:41.000 We take the tax credits that are given to people on Obamacare exchanges and eliminate it.

01:05:47.000 We take the cost-share and reduction payments that are given to insurance companies to lower the cost of deductibles, and we eliminate it.

01:05:54.000 We take the Medicaid, the exchanges, no longer.

01:05:58.000 We take all of the regulations.

01:06:01.000 We allow a lot of waivers in those regulations.

01:06:05.000 So all of that is changed.

01:06:09.000 Sorry about that.

01:06:13.000 It's the federal government runs your electric over there.

01:06:15.000 Let's give it back to the states. 0.97

01:06:17.000 Okay, so all of those things are repealed, and what's it replaced with?

01:06:22.000 Well, oh, by the way, the individual mandate is repealed.

01:06:26.000 And the employer mandate is repealed.

01:06:28.000 So all of those things, basically Obamacare is repealed.

01:06:32.000 What we then do is take all the tax money that's left, because Obama increased taxes, and we take that money and we divide it up to the states equally over time.

01:06:43.000 Not originally, but we phase it in.

01:06:46.000 But by the end of the seven years of this block grant, Every state will get the same amount per capita for the poor people they have in their state, so they can provide an innovative, state-specific, Quality-driven system of health insurance and health providing for each state in America.

01:07:06.000 So we get the money out of Washington, get it equally divided to the states, allow them to innovate, allow them to create high-risk pools or health savings accounts, or if they want to put, you know, Obamacare, recreate Obamacare, I'm in California right now, they want to recreate Obamacare in California, they can recreate Obamacare here.

01:07:25.000 They want to put back the individual mandate, they can put back the individual mandate, but every state It's gonna have the ability to develop their own system, and it'll be driven by two things.

01:07:34.000 Number one, there's a limit.

01:07:37.000 We put a cap on how much money we're gonna spend.

01:07:40.000 So every, unlike Obamacare, which is open-ended entitlement, there's a limit on how much money we're gonna give the states, and they have to live within that budget.

01:07:49.000 That's going to drive cost containment, which the best way to get cost containment is improving quality.

01:07:55.000 So we think we'll have a lower cost, more efficient, quality-driven system in all the different states around the country.

01:08:01.000 So we know why the left opposes it.

01:08:02.000 We know why Jimmy Kimmel wants to kick your ass effectively.

01:08:05.000 That's what he's What children do we have that we can throw politically?

01:08:16.000 So we know why the left is against it, but I've heard you also say, hey, listen, this is why the right needs to support it.

01:08:20.000 So there's been some apprehension from more traditional conservatives.

01:08:23.000 I think I know the reason, but I'd like to hear kind of what it is they've expressed to you and why they do need to get behind it at this point.

01:08:32.000 Well, Rand Paul's sort of been leading that charge, saying that we leave in 85 to 90 percent of the taxes that Obama levied to fund Obamacare, and we leave the spending in place.

01:08:42.000 And the answer to that is, we do.

01:08:45.000 We do cut, although, a quarter of a trillion dollars in taxes.

01:08:50.000 We do reduce spending by $400 billion.

01:08:53.000 We do get the money out to the states.

01:08:56.000 And, you know, we end to in federal entitlement.

01:09:00.000 So, you know, not bad, as far as I'm concerned.

01:09:05.000 It's, I hearken back, and this is before you were born, 20 years ago, when I was...

01:09:12.000 Thank you.

01:09:13.000 You're far too kind.

01:09:14.000 All right, I'll forgive you for the Irish castle opulence.

01:09:17.000 Continue.

01:09:18.000 So 20 years ago, 21 years ago to be exact, I was the author of a bill that passed the United States Senate signed by President Clinton called Welfare Reform.

01:09:27.000 And there were those, there was a guy by the name of Locke Faircloth, who was a senator from North Carolina, who voted against, he was the only Republican that voted against this bill.

01:09:38.000 They got every other Republican to vote for it, 51 of them, to vote for it, because it didn't cut enough taxes, And it didn't cut enough spending.

01:09:45.000 And the reason is because we spent a lot of money.

01:09:48.000 We do.

01:09:49.000 And the reason we spent a lot of money in welfare was that's how we got bipartisan support.

01:09:53.000 We put enough money in a block grant to the state to reform the welfare system.

01:09:58.000 But here's what we did.

01:09:59.000 We gave the states and the governors the flexibility to reform the program.

01:10:03.000 And guess what happened?

01:10:04.000 Within three years, the welfare rules were cut in half.

01:10:07.000 Within three years, poverty hit some of the lowest rates.

01:10:10.000 In fact, in the most hard-hit, impoverished subcategories had the best growth in income.

01:10:19.000 We got more people employed who were lower income, particularly single, never married mothers, highest rates of employment ever recorded, all because we gave the governors the flexibility and the resources to be able to get people off welfare, into work, and into productive lives.

01:10:34.000 Well, I understand, yeah, finding a middle ground to compromise so that something is better than nothing.

01:10:38.000 But I'm sure we can both agree it just takes the wrong guy down the line unless the dragon is cut off at the head where, you know, you have another President Obama and people are concerned that, oh, now it's all back in play, as it often happens with government.

01:10:51.000 Look, here are the options.

01:10:53.000 It was not coincidental that the day that Lindsey Graham and Bill Cassidy and Dean Heller and Ron Johnson and I introduced They introduced, I hung around, we were at a press conference introducing this bill.

01:11:06.000 Later on that day, Bernie Sanders introduced his Medicare for All.

01:11:10.000 And just think about the optics of this.

01:11:14.000 Well, the legal term is, crazy uncle proposed a bill again.

01:11:18.000 That's how it's referred to.

01:11:20.000 Let's use the proper vernacular, but continue.

01:11:22.000 Medicare for All is a little country, though.

01:11:23.000 So the interesting thing about those two press conferences, they both had the same underlying point.

01:11:31.000 Obamacare doesn't work.

01:11:33.000 Because if Obamacare worked, Bernie wouldn't end up introducing a fundamentally different way of dealing with healthcare. 0.84

01:11:39.000 Now the left and the right agree Obamacare has failed, and now the American public has their choice.

01:11:45.000 They can do a plan that says 50 different health care systems developed at the states and people closest to the people to make more localized solutions, or one-size-fits-all government-run health care by the Democrats. or one-size-fits-all government-run health care by the Democrats.

01:12:04.000 That's your choice, and that's the vote coming up next week.

01:12:06.000 Hold on.

01:12:07.000 Gerald has a question here.

01:12:08.000 Yes, Senator Santorum.

01:12:09.000 I feel like this is kind of like college football, where I support a team that gets beat at the last minute and I just can't do it anymore.

01:12:15.000 As a Republican, as somebody who's had his insurance go crazy...

01:12:19.000 I don't know that there's just two choices in our minds.

01:12:22.000 Right now there are two choices, but there's this third option of like, no, you've got to come up with something a little bit better.

01:12:26.000 How do you get over the hurdle of communicating that this is a good path to go?

01:12:30.000 Because I'm with you.

01:12:31.000 I'm all for the states having the right to control this.

01:12:34.000 But it doesn't seem like everybody's jumping on the bandwagon on both sides so that, like Stephen said, it doesn't just go back the next time we get somebody from another party coming in.

01:12:41.000 How do you deal with that?

01:12:43.000 This is the cool thing about sending the money out to the states.

01:12:46.000 Once the states have these resources and develop their own plan of how to deal with insurance markets and all these things that we're going to give them the flexibility to deal with, They're never going to give this money back.

01:12:59.000 They'll never let it.

01:13:00.000 You know what?

01:13:01.000 That's a very good point.

01:13:02.000 Come on.

01:13:03.000 Give it back, Michigan.

01:13:04.000 No!

01:13:05.000 Ain't going to happen.

01:13:06.000 So this puts a stake through the heart of single-payer.

01:13:11.000 It's one of the biggest selling points of this is not a single Democratic governor, if they've helped develop this system in their state, is going to say, oh, no, no, we'll end this and let the federal government take this from us.

01:13:23.000 No way.

01:13:24.000 Not going to happen.

01:13:24.000 Yeah, it really does seem like it's a battle of optics at this point.

01:13:27.000 Everyone agrees.

01:13:28.000 And that was one thing when Senator Santone was running and it was down to him and Mitt Romney.

01:13:32.000 I remember being on Fox News.

01:13:33.000 I said, listen, this is at the time when, at this point, the Affordable Care Act is at an all-time...

01:13:37.000 It's never going to be less popular than right now because there were so many problems with it.

01:13:42.000 I said, what is Mitt Romney going to do?

01:13:43.000 And I like Governor Romney, but he went up in that second debate and he just sidestepped it.

01:13:49.000 And I remember going...

01:13:50.000 This is the time to do it.

01:13:52.000 Oh, the lights just went out.

01:13:56.000 It's the second coming again.

01:13:58.000 He's in Utah.

01:13:58.000 All right, click.

01:14:01.000 All right, before we go, we just had, by the way, Clint Howard says hi.

01:14:05.000 He was on the show right before.

01:14:07.000 He was in a hot tub, presumably nude, so I don't know what that says, but he said, I really like Senator Sant.

01:14:12.000 I met him at FOA, and I don't know if you remember him, but it's a tough mug to forget.

01:14:16.000 Yeah.

01:14:18.000 I'm very uncomfortable with this.

01:14:21.000 Okay, well, where can people read more about this bill for people who don't know?

01:14:25.000 Because it's tough to kind of, you know, wade through all of the muck with this, especially...

01:14:29.000 Well, actually, there are two good op-eds in the Wall Street Journal today that I would recommend to you that I think did a very good job.

01:14:33.000 Obviously, you know, you can go to both Senator Cassie and Senator Graham's website that has all the details that you never want to have on the bill.

01:14:41.000 A lot of the myths, they posted something up just, I think, yesterday or today, On all the misinformation, like, you know, we're not covering people with pre-existing conditions.

01:14:49.000 The Jimmy Kimmel test, that's garbage.

01:14:52.000 What we do is we tell the state you have to cover pre-existing conditions, but we're going to give you flexibility on how you do it.

01:14:58.000 So there can be innovative solutions to provide better and more affordable care for those with pre-existing conditions.

01:15:03.000 This is the kind of stuff, unless, see, for Jimmy Kimmel and for people with simple minds, and they may be the same person, that If you don't say the federal government makes you do it, then it doesn't count.

01:15:17.000 Well, you know what?

01:15:19.000 There are many ways to deal with providing good, quality, accessible, and affordable healthcare, and we want to make sure that that happens and make sure everybody gets the best quality care at the best price.

01:15:30.000 I want the federal government to take over late night and then watch.

01:15:34.000 Bernie Sanders will have a show.

01:15:36.000 Hasn't already happened?

01:15:37.000 Pretty much, pretty much.

01:15:37.000 Yeah.

01:15:38.000 They go out to all the same dinners.

01:15:40.000 All right, that is Senator Rick Santorum.

01:15:41.000 You can follow him at Rick Santorum.

01:15:43.000 I think Senator Santorum is too long for the Twitter handle.

01:15:46.000 But, yeah, it's too long.

01:15:48.000 People won't remember.

01:15:49.000 Thank you so much, Senator, for taking the time.

01:15:50.000 And I hope, listen, people let us know in the comments section what you think about this bill, where you're lining up.

01:15:54.000 We always want to have our finger to the pulse and see where they are.

01:15:56.000 It seems as though there's a split.

01:15:58.000 So hopefully something gets done.

01:16:00.000 Thank you.

01:16:00.000 Take a slice when you can get it.

01:16:03.000 That's one of the...

01:16:06.000 For 40 years, they take a little bit at a time, and all of a sudden you realize what happened.

01:16:12.000 And you realize the pie is rhubarb.

01:16:14.000 We want to win big or go home.

01:16:16.000 Don't win big, go home.

01:16:18.000 Take the first down, move the ball down the field.

01:16:20.000 There you go.

01:16:21.000 Fair analogy.

01:16:22.000 Senator Rick Santorum, thank you so much for taking the time, sir.

01:16:24.000 That means we have to go.

01:16:24.000 There's music.

01:16:26.000 Oh, there we go.

01:16:26.000 Greetings, Lotto of Color Viewers.

01:16:37.000 Hopper here.

01:16:38.000 You may have noticed my new friends.

01:16:41.000 I got him at Lotto with CarterShop.com where you can get your shirt where the socialism is for figs and the firearm shirt and there's some really cool clothes.

01:16:53.000 I have to wear the woman's one because it fits better. 1.00

01:16:55.000 Yeah.

01:16:57.000 Mm-hmm.

01:17:27.000 The riptide almost got me.

01:17:42.000 I was blacked out there.

01:17:43.000 Almost got me on the Riptide.

01:17:44.000 Do you ever wonder what people think who listen to the audio-only version of this?

01:17:47.000 Sometimes I wonder.

01:17:49.000 But sometimes people are on the road, so we appreciate you listening to audio-only.

01:17:52.000 Thank you, Senator Rick Santorum.

01:17:52.000 Join my club.

01:17:54.000 A little different.

01:17:54.000 We don't often have politics, but he's making the rounds.

01:17:57.000 He's a good guy.

01:17:58.000 I do think he explained it in a way that is actually pretty.

01:17:59.000 Yeah, it's helpful.

01:18:00.000 Very helpful.

01:18:01.000 Thank you, Clint Howard.

01:18:02.000 Next time wear pants.

01:18:03.000 And thank you to Phil and Ann.

01:18:05.000 We very much appreciate it.

01:18:06.000 And have a busy week next week.

01:18:08.000 There will be no show on Wednesday.

01:18:10.000 You'll find out why on Thursday.

01:18:12.000 We can't divulge that information yet.

01:18:16.000 But should be good.

01:18:18.000 I also think I'm doing a segment over there with Stefan Molyneux on his show.

01:18:21.000 Oh yeah, we're doing a mock debate on abortion.

01:18:23.000 So yeah, we did a mock debate before and people for some reason still think that I was pro-tearing down Confederate statues.

01:18:29.000 Who's going to take which stance?

01:18:30.000 They want me to take the pro-life stance because the last time I had to take the sort of just...

01:18:34.000 But I get your opposite real argument.

01:18:37.000 I just had to take the contrarian stance last time.

01:18:38.000 That's a better word for it.

01:18:40.000 I tried to give you the rope and you have yourself with it.

01:18:43.000 This is why we give you the words.

01:18:44.000 You mealy-mouthed son of a bitch. 0.94

01:18:46.000 So I am...

01:18:50.000 Actually, this is the last segment, and I turned to Not Gay Jared and I said, what do you have?

01:18:54.000 He said, nothing, because I don't have any thoughts.

01:18:56.000 It's just empty up there.

01:18:57.000 I can't figure out why.

01:18:58.000 But I did apologize to Jared this week, and I'll apologize if I'm going to Not Gay Jared on air, because we had some issues, and he was wrong on some of them, but then I was wrong because I told him to stop acting like a little bitch. 0.99

01:19:10.000 You did.

01:19:10.000 I actually said that.

01:19:12.000 And afterwards, even no matter how wrong he was before that, Okay.

01:19:16.000 And I said, listen, apologies, no ifs, ands, or buts, and moved on.

01:19:22.000 And I've had to do that this week a little bit.

01:19:23.000 We've been kind of in...

01:19:23.000 I don't want to say a pressure cooker.

01:19:25.000 You'll see, again, next Thursday, while we don't have a video, while we don't have a show next Wednesday, and it's because of a super video and one that actually safety concerns.

01:19:33.000 Sure.

01:19:33.000 And there are a lot of things happening with the studio.

01:19:35.000 There are a lot of things happening with Mug Club and CRTV and new shows coming on.

01:19:40.000 So there's been a lot.

01:19:40.000 Sometimes you just have those weeks where there's just too many plates spinning.

01:19:43.000 And that's what Jordan Peterson said with me, that...

01:19:45.000 Defensive, reactive aggression.

01:19:47.000 Also your 3% politeness.

01:19:49.000 3% politeness.

01:19:50.000 That is a portion of it.

01:19:51.000 But you know what?

01:19:53.000 The truth is, yeah, there are things that I'm working on.

01:19:55.000 I know that there are things that Naki Jared is working on.

01:19:57.000 I know that there are things that everybody is working on.

01:20:00.000 I had this conversation with my wife about it because I've learned to apologize.

01:20:03.000 I've done it a lot throughout my life.

01:20:07.000 And I hope people in my life understand, and I think most people do, that when you make mistakes, it doesn't necessarily come from malice.

01:20:15.000 That's a big thing.

01:20:16.000 And here's how I think that most people around tend to know that.

01:20:19.000 If you just look at Jared and Gerald and the people who work in this office, and I'm going to tie this around to...

01:20:27.000 Well, Jimmy Kimmel, you look at Vox, you look at how just inauthentic they are with, well, we support free speech, but someone's saying that and writing that on Vox.com, right?

01:20:36.000 Writing, yes, I support free speech, and then the whole article is not supporting free speech.

01:20:42.000 When I see that, I don't just think, hey, this person is a liar.

01:20:45.000 I think, hey, this person is a fraud.

01:20:48.000 And what's crazy is, you know, Vox has, I don't know, how many hundreds of employees.

01:20:52.000 They're comfortable putting that out there with headlines saying they support free speech and knowing they don't because they must be surrounded by people who don't know or don't care that they're a fraud.

01:21:04.000 You think the people in the office at Vox don't know?

01:21:06.000 They go, oh yeah, Clark said he's pro-free speech in that headline.

01:21:08.000 They all know that he's not.

01:21:10.000 But they're surrounded by people who don't care.

01:21:12.000 They're surrounded by people who have no standard as to integrity.

01:21:15.000 And I think that's one thing we have in our office.

01:21:17.000 We talk about it a lot.

01:21:18.000 We send out memos.

01:21:19.000 We say, hey, listen, everyone needs to have a good attitude.

01:21:21.000 You need to look out for the guy next to you.

01:21:23.000 If someone comes down on someone, there's a system of obviously...

01:21:28.000 I wouldn't use the word boss, but there are people, there are different hierarchies.

01:21:31.000 If someone comes down on someone, it's usually, hey, listen, the guy next to you had to make up for that work.

01:21:35.000 It doesn't come from hating somebody.

01:21:37.000 And so even if I know that I can be curt, these are things that I need to work on.

01:21:41.000 I'm just an open book.

01:21:42.000 I said, Jared, stop acting like a little bitch. 1.00

01:21:45.000 I was wrong.

01:21:46.000 Now, he was, but I shouldn't have said it.

01:21:50.000 How many people get an apology from their boss live on air?

01:21:53.000 You're welcome.

01:21:54.000 You and your cheekbones.

01:21:56.000 I'll sign over my check later this week.

01:21:58.000 And you'll understand why next week there's no show Wednesday.

01:22:02.000 Then I can explain the discussions as to what went down.

01:22:05.000 It'll make a lot more sense.

01:22:07.000 Like, oh, I can see how there was some pressure there on both sides.

01:22:11.000 So people can be flawed, and I am deeply flawed.

01:22:14.000 I think everyone knows.

01:22:15.000 But for me to not be a good man, or for me to not try and be a good man, would make me a fraud.

01:22:22.000 And it would be an office that I could not walk into tomorrow, let alone day in and day out.

01:22:28.000 If I were to come out here and tell you, hey, I believe that conservatives should do a better job, for example, of paying their employees at least a fair wage.

01:22:38.000 Because I've talked about that with conservative nonprofits.

01:22:39.000 I've talked about working with other conservative organizations.

01:22:41.000 I've talked about media entities who offered to hire me.

01:22:45.000 For no money.

01:22:46.000 Ask me to move across the country.

01:22:47.000 You've heard me talk about that on the show.

01:22:48.000 If I were to say that on the show and talk about how disgusting it were and everyone in this office knew that I was paying them like crap, I'd be a fraud.

01:22:56.000 If I were to come out here and say, you know what, hey, family really matters.

01:22:59.000 And, you know, I think that before federal government, before state government, you're talking about the central building block is the family.

01:23:06.000 And everyone in this office knew that I treated my family like crap, that I hated my wife, that I didn't have a good relationship with my parents.

01:23:13.000 Guess what?

01:23:13.000 They know really quickly that I'm a fraud.

01:23:15.000 I'd be exposed really quickly.

01:23:17.000 And I'm not just saying this because it's not to be self-aggrandizing or even any other people on this team, because they're the heroes, the unsung heroes in this story.

01:23:26.000 They're the ones who are going to keep someone accountable.

01:23:28.000 But it is a really good place to be.

01:23:30.000 If you can set up your life, you know, you look at Vox, you look at Huffington Post, you look at Slate, you look at what once was Gawker.

01:23:37.000 These are entire businesses set up, Jimmy Kimmel, set up around avoiding the truth.

01:23:42.000 They say, don't talk religion and politics.

01:23:43.000 Why?

01:23:44.000 Because these people don't practice what they preach.

01:23:47.000 They don't believe these things.

01:23:50.000 And so they set up a system that allows for fraud.

01:23:52.000 They set up a system, a hierarchy.

01:23:55.000 They set up an office place that allows them to lie to people on their shows.

01:23:59.000 It allows them to lie in their columns.

01:24:01.000 I support free speech.

01:24:02.000 And a good example, Tom Hanks.

01:24:04.000 Remember seeing him on MSNBC? He said, yes, World War II, the United States only entered because of racism and fear.

01:24:10.000 And we're sitting there going, you don't have anyone in your life who will say, that's retarded, sir.

01:24:15.000 That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

01:24:17.000 Because they set up a life where they can be a fraud and no one calls them.

01:24:21.000 And if you can set up your life, I will say this.

01:24:23.000 We've done it with this office.

01:24:24.000 We've done it with this program.

01:24:25.000 We've done it with lotterwithcredit.com.

01:24:27.000 Courtney's not shy to let you know if she's angry about something.

01:24:30.000 If you can do that with your life and set it up so that you can't be a fraud because everyone around you knows it and they'll call you out on it, that's a really good place to be.

01:24:40.000 Especially if not being a good person, if not being a good man is what makes you fraudulent.

01:24:46.000 You want to know how you get better?

01:24:47.000 You want to know how you increase your capacity for whatever it is?

01:24:51.000 Whether it's intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, you surround yourself with people who will call you on your crap.

01:24:57.000 People who will tell you if you're not a good man.

01:24:59.000 And I know a lot of people who don't.

01:25:00.000 I've had people recently, a friend who I was talking with, going like, yeah, you know, my friends just don't think about these issues.

01:25:05.000 They just don't really care about it.

01:25:06.000 I'm going, okay.

01:25:07.000 So let's say you screw up.

01:25:10.000 Let's say you don't really treat your wife really well.

01:25:12.000 Let's say you're violating your own conscience.

01:25:16.000 Who of your friends is going to tell you?

01:25:18.000 They don't really like to talk about that stuff.

01:25:20.000 They just want to have a good time.

01:25:21.000 Yeah, don't talk religion and politics because it sifts through the frauds really quickly.

01:25:25.000 And I realized that this week when I had to sit down, and I'm the boss technically, but even my wife.

01:25:31.000 I'm like, hey, you know what?

01:25:33.000 Kind of a dick, you have to apologize for that.

01:25:35.000 If I didn't have that, and if I didn't have that every single day at every check mark, doesn't mean I'm perfect, doesn't mean I don't have a long way to go, I would develop into the biggest fraud that you could possibly imagine because when people aren't calling you on it, all they're doing is complimenting you, all they're doing is praising you, and it becomes one big ego stroke.

01:25:53.000 You wonder, how does Jimmy Kimmel get so out of touch, man?

01:25:56.000 You wonder, how do the Emmys have no self-awareness whatsoever that not every single person in the country could possibly disagree?

01:26:04.000 How does, like we were talking about Anne and Flynn, how do these actors in Hamilton think that it's okay to berate the Vice President of the United States?

01:26:10.000 How are they not aware that half that audience might disagree?

01:26:13.000 Because they have been allowed to be frauds their entire life.

01:26:17.000 And that happens when you make the first decisions.

01:26:20.000 Who you surround yourself with, how you act, and how you act when those people react.

01:26:26.000 Being a fraud if you're not a good person, that's a really good place to be.

01:26:30.000 It means you've got a solid foundation.

01:26:32.000 I'm grateful for it.

01:26:33.000 See you next week with Not Clint Howard.

Louder with Crowder - September 22, 2017

#233 FREE SPEECH WEEK RIOTS! Rick Santorum, Clint Howard and Ann McElhinney | Louder With Crowder

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