Louder with Crowder - #296 WHY CAN’T TRUMP KEEP STAFF?? Ben Shapiro and Jim Norton | Louder With Crowder

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00:00:54.000 You remember that night at South by Southwest you told me it'd be a great idea to crash-shank Uyghur's panel? 1.00

00:01:01.000 You said it'd be a great idea.

00:01:04.000 A great idea?

00:01:05.000 We were demonetized before that broadcast even went live.

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00:01:11.000 Cenk Weger gets direct support from YouTube, and what do I get?

00:01:14.000 A one-way ticket to demonetization, Bill.

00:01:17.000 You were my producer, Nake, Jared.

00:01:19.000 You should have looked down for me a little bit.

00:01:22.000 Should have taken care of me just a little bit so I wouldn't have had to do those web-based security ads for the short-end money.

00:01:28.000 I got you in the MySpace trending list.

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00:03:02.000 Jim Norton and Ben Shapiro on today's show.

00:03:05.000 Also, today's show brought to you by Hopper's Tramadol.

00:03:08.000 I blew my back.

00:03:10.000 When I say blew my back, I have a ruptured disc and I didn't warm up properly today doing deadlifts.

00:03:14.000 It was so loud that the guy who learned the Jim heard a popular, you hurt your back?

00:03:17.000 I said, yeah, it's funny.

00:03:18.000 Leave me. Producing with me in video studio as always is Jared who is not gay. 1.00

00:03:22.000 Follow him on Twitter at notgayjaredme at scrowder with your thoughts, your comments, your photoshops.

00:03:27.000 I'm a meme now. No big deal.

00:03:28.000 I fulfill my legal obligations during conclusions.

00:03:30.000 Are we good? No, I'm not a meme.

00:03:31.000 That's my goal. And at gmorgang...

00:03:33.000 But you took the picture. I took the picture.

00:03:35.000 How sad is that? That's what he clings to.

00:03:37.000 And I teed him up for it and he still took it.

00:03:40.000 SimplifiedWine.com. How are you, Gerald? What's the one of the day?

00:03:41.000 I'm doing well. We've got the little Lorenz Perrier.

00:03:43.000 Like, just a little baby bottle here for you.

00:03:45.000 Hey, Sven Computer with the overlays.

00:03:47.000 Ready? Yes, you can follow me on Twitter.

00:03:49.000 Nope. No, seriously.

00:03:53.000 Hopper, I found this out. I asked the vet, and then I asked the pharmacist at the CVS. I said, yeah, it's the same pain pills.

00:03:57.000 It's the same pain pills.

00:03:59.000 Does it cost less? I don't know, but these pills expired in, like, 2016.

00:04:04.000 That was a while ago. Which is a good thing.

00:04:06.000 It's a good thing because it shows that I'm not an addict, that I don't have...

00:04:09.000 I don't know if it's an opiate or opioid watch.

00:04:12.000 You're off to a rocky start.

00:04:13.000 But the bad thing is, I took pills that expired two years ago.

00:04:17.000 To your point, the latter.

00:04:18.000 Most comedians cannot claim they have two-year-old pills.

00:04:22.000 Two-year-old pills that are sitting in there.

00:04:23.000 It's like Wolf of Wall Street is going to hit you a little bit.

00:04:25.000 It's an accomplishment. Yeah, exactly. It's going to be a fuse.

00:04:27.000 Hey, by the way, question of the day is, do you think, we're going to talk about this, obviously, in light of the West Virginia story, do you think public school teachers are woefully underpaid?

00:04:35.000 That seems to be the acceptance among society today.

00:04:39.000 I disagree. Why are you laughing?

00:04:41.000 Because that statement is so hilarious.

00:04:44.000 All we do is pay them more.

00:04:45.000 You don't deserve it.

00:04:46.000 The most important job in the world is teaching. 1.00

00:04:49.000 I'd say killing Bin Laden. 0.94

00:04:50.000 News of the day. McDonald's is flipping its trademark arches upside down to honor women on hashtag International Women's Day. 0.54

00:04:58.000 McDonald's will flip its logo upside down to form a W on all digital channels, including its Instagram and Twitter feeds.

00:05:04.000 And 100 restaurants will have special packaging crew shirts and hats and bag stuffers for us.

00:05:09.000 So... Grab them by the golden arches!

00:05:13.000 And jumping on the feminist bandwagon, of course, Wendy herself will also be going topless. 1.00

00:05:18.000 Oh, there you go. Chipotle just shamelessly released a taco bowl with 50% less listeria.

00:05:23.000 That seems almost tasteless and not related to women's day. 1.00

00:05:27.000 I don't think it's going to go over well for feminists because I think McDonald's is half the reason they're gelatinous and single. 1.00

00:05:33.000 So... I don't think they're going to buy it.

00:05:35.000 How do you pronounce that now, by the way, with a W instead of an M there?

00:05:37.000 They're not going to buy it because they've already bought a lot of it.

00:05:40.000 One billion served?

00:05:41.000 That could read, okay, 800 million feminists served. 1.00

00:05:46.000 The rest is taking guests.

00:05:48.000 By the way, this was fascinating.

00:05:50.000 Every now and then you get a story that's just a feel good.

00:05:51.000 The world's oldest message in a bottle was found by a beach walker in Australia.

00:05:55.000 It comes from the Guardian. The bottle had been thrown overboard from a German sailing ship in 1886 across the Indian Ocean.

00:06:03.000 Did you know this? Does this come from a German story, Sven Computer?

00:06:07.000 I don't think so, no. That's why you don't get to plug your Twitter.

00:06:09.000 He's not even ready when to go to work.

00:06:10.000 Luckily, the discovery of the message in a bottle was caught on tape.

00:06:13.000 It's the international language of message in a bottle.

00:06:16.000 Everybody should know.

00:06:17.000 It's the international language of message in a bottle.

00:06:36.000 The universe is telling you that.

00:06:40.000 That's true. I guess it would be... If Trudeau had collected that, someone would be sued.

00:06:44.000 By the way, hey, hit the notification bell if you're watching on YouTube because subscribing doesn't mean anything anymore.

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00:06:54.000 A woman was arrested for attempting...

00:06:57.000 Then we're going to talk about public school teachers, but this is a story that's more important.

00:06:59.000 A woman was arrested for attempting to trick Albuquerque authorities yesterday when she claimed she had a prescription for medical methamphetamine.

00:07:08.000 That's creative. Really is a thing.

00:07:14.000 The lady wrote a suspicion when she claimed that she had a prescription for the drug, just like medical marijuana. 1.00

00:07:18.000 and suspicions were all but confirmed when she informed them that her co-pay would be toothless b******* 0.98

00:07:23.000 That's terrible.

00:07:27.000 Put it in 80-20?

00:07:30.000 It's a hundred. Medical math is not a thing.

00:07:35.000 But it is. It can be.

00:07:42.000 Speaking of which, a new study shows that marrying your first cousin is not as bad as we thought.

00:07:47.000 Oh, thank God. Research...

00:07:51.000 Bring it back up, Sven Computer.

00:07:53.000 It was conducted over seven years by a data scientist in Columbia University, and it shows that it's okay to marry your first cousin as long as your children do not marry their first cousins.

00:08:02.000 Yeah, just cut off somewhere.

00:08:04.000 Yeah. Yes! He said third cousin Andy.

00:08:09.000 He's cute. By the way, fun fact, 20 states today still allow cousin marriage, and we'll talk about them in a minute.

00:08:15.000 West Virginia is not amongst them.

00:08:17.000 That's hilariously surprising.

00:08:19.000 It's the forbidden fruit of the line.

00:08:21.000 That's where they drew the line?

00:08:23.000 Really, West Virginia? Here's the thing, though.

00:08:25.000 Here's the fun, extra fun fact. 0.85

00:08:27.000 Sexual relationships with said cousin.

00:08:30.000 Totally permissible. Hold on, Sven Computer, can you fact check?

00:08:32.000 Is that true? Yes, that is true.

00:08:33.000 Beep, beep. Okay, no Twitter plug. That is, um...

00:08:36.000 So sexual relations allowed with your cousins in North Virginia, but not marriage.

00:08:42.000 No, hey, hey! You make an honest woman out of her, you divorce her, and bang her on the side. 1.00

00:08:49.000 That's what separates us from the beasts of the sea.

00:08:53.000 Stringing her along would just be indecent.

00:08:54.000 It would just be indecent.

00:08:57.000 Don't you commit. Don't you commit.

00:08:59.000 By the way, the fact that someone at Columbia took seven years to study this.

00:09:03.000 I know. Is he on a watch list somewhere?

00:09:06.000 Probably so. Is this peer-reviewed?

00:09:09.000 He came back to his peers. He can't fly.

00:09:10.000 Told ya! Told ya!

00:09:11.000 Exactly. It just can't be two generations down.

00:09:14.000 He's got a first cousin. I like taking his rights first and due process later.

00:09:17.000 Yes, exactly. Due process later for him.

00:09:19.000 Grabbed by the Golden Archers. Israel is in the process, by the way, of building a Jewish Disneyland designed by rabbis. 0.98

00:09:26.000 And it's as fun as it sounds. The American company iTech is planning a theme park based on Jewish values, and it will feature Torah-themed rides, Jewish cultural, cuisine, and a fast-pass lane, actually, for patrons to bitch about rising ticket prices.

00:09:50.000 This park is everything that's gone wrong in this world.

00:09:52.000 This park is nothing.

00:09:53.000 I know who I am. I've been to Cedar Point.

00:09:55.000 I'm in the Magic Kingdom. I had a season pass to Hershey Park in 1985.

00:09:59.000 It sucks. It sucks. 0.99

00:10:01.000 Who the hell are you? Of course, by the way, not a country, just so you know, but always trying to keep up. 1.00

00:10:05.000 This development has prompted Palestine to break ground on their new theme park, Six F***s Over Gaza Strip. 0.96

00:10:11.000 Yeah, that's... Oh, gosh.

00:10:14.000 Oh, look at all the children having fun.

00:10:16.000 And their human shields. And their human shields.

00:10:18.000 That was almost immediate.

00:10:20.000 That's weird. That happened fast.

00:10:22.000 Why is a guy firing an AK from the top of the Mr.

00:10:26.000 Toad ride? Stop! 0.99

00:10:29.000 Oh, my gosh. It's one of the gods.

00:10:32.000 Alright, we're going to have to get to Ben Shapiro.

00:10:33.000 Speaking of Jews, Ben Shapiro soon. 0.76

00:10:35.000 Hey, there you go. And then we have Jim Norton.

00:10:36.000 We'll be on. It's going to be a relaxed day because how am I doing with the pain pills?

00:10:39.000 You're doing alright. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:40.000 Five for ten. I'm swinging above my batting average.

00:10:45.000 I'm getting better. Name that movie line, by the way.

00:10:46.000 I'm getting better.

00:10:48.000 Where's that from? No one here.

00:10:50.000 Tweet me. So here's one thing I wanted to talk about today.

00:10:52.000 We've talked about it on the show, but haven't really gotten in depth.

00:10:55.000 I know I'm going to get some flack for this.

00:10:56.000 That's why it's the question of the day. Many people have the idea in their head that public school teachers are severely underpaid public servants.

00:11:04.000 Where do they get that? Well, here. Is the fact that teachers are just going to have to keep accepting lower salaries despite the importance of our job, of their job?

00:11:14.000 But we as a society have decided, nah, teaching's not that important.

00:11:17.000 It's only our job. Yeah, that's right.

00:11:19.000 And because we make that decision, we're the taxpayers.

00:11:22.000 We're the ones who decide how much the teachers get, and we won't pay them.

00:11:26.000 Not only don't we pay teachers what they deserve to be paid, In other countries that have better test scores than ours, you hear about that all the time, actually teachers get paid much more on an even standard with professionals or engineers and in other walks of life.

00:11:44.000 My sister is a teacher.

00:11:47.000 And I know how much effort they put into this.

00:11:51.000 They don't ask for a lot of recognition.

00:11:54.000 They're certainly not going into teaching for the money.

00:12:00.000 Although some do. Talk about a sister.

00:12:02.000 By the way, how's your brother? Teaching actually pays pretty...

00:12:06.000 Here's the truth. They're actually paid pretty well.

00:12:08.000 And so one thing, I know it's unpopular to say because it's the most important job.

00:12:10.000 No. No, not really.

00:12:12.000 It's really not. By the way, are we paying Hillary Clinton's hairstylist on a curve?

00:12:16.000 What is going on? It just seems like you go back in history, you're like, oh, it was always bad.

00:12:20.000 Yeah. It never changed. Yeah.

00:12:22.000 You know those ladies that go through that crossover age where it's like, I'm just going to cut it short now and do this sort of flock of seagulls? 1.00

00:12:27.000 She's always done that. It's like Taco Bell. 0.96

00:12:29.000 They keep revamping it, but it still just sucks. 0.98

00:12:30.000 It's the same exact thing. 0.82

00:12:32.000 So teachers are actually paid well.

00:12:33.000 Let me lay the case out for you.

00:12:35.000 I'm not saying the teachers aren't important that they shouldn't be paid what they're worth.

00:12:37.000 That is not what I'm saying.

00:12:39.000 Hold your comments. Let's compare them first to other government workers. 1.00

00:12:42.000 School jobs, okay? Some of the better paying ones out there.

00:12:45.000 See this first chart from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

00:12:47.000 They receive more than two times the benefits of employees in the private sector, by the way.

00:12:51.000 The average public school teacher, this comes to us, I think National View, more than double the benefits package received by typical workers in the private sector.

00:12:57.000 So when we take the benefits into account, overall compensation is actually higher than private sector teachers, which, listen, shouldn't surprise you, obviously.

00:13:05.000 Public dole, they're going to be paid more than private teachers.

00:13:08.000 They don't do better, by the way.

00:13:10.000 Test scores aren't better. Now, here's something we haven't even mentioned yet.

00:13:13.000 We've compared them to other government workers to private school teachers.

00:13:17.000 They only work nine months out of the year.

00:13:21.000 This is the only thing nobody talks about when we talk about what they're paid.

00:13:23.000 So the average salary for a public school teacher is about $57,000.

00:13:27.000 Which is not nothing. That's a lot.

00:13:29.000 No, it's not. But if we prorate that for working 12 months, not even including the benefits, by the way, instead of nine, teachers will be making $76,000.

00:13:38.000 $76,000, well above the average salary, by the way, for workers with a college degree.

00:13:43.000 So if we're going to do that, because I don't want to, well, you can't, these people, they go to college, okay, let's not just compare them to a McDonald's worker, five for 15.

00:13:48.000 It is higher than the average college degree worker, and in line with the median salary for workers with master's degrees are higher.

00:13:54.000 $77,000. By the way, something else, it doesn't matter what your test scores are, it doesn't matter how your students are doing, you're paid that amount, and they're nearly impossible to fire, even if they suck. 0.88

00:14:05.000 That's You'd have to be given the Kevin Spacey treatment to your students times five for them to even consider getting you out of a rubber room.

00:14:12.000 And then it'll take you about a year and a half to two years to go.

00:14:14.000 Yes. Yeah. It looked like you were going to say something.

00:14:17.000 Yeah, so I think it's just absolutely insane.

00:14:19.000 I had never heard that clip, by the way, that you played at the beginning when they were saying that teachers just accept lower and lower pay.

00:14:24.000 When's the last time teachers have ever accepted lower pay?

00:14:26.000 I just laughed out loud because I'm like, I didn't even know that was out there in the narrative.

00:14:30.000 Yeah. The thing is, okay, listen, so here's what's going to happen this year.

00:14:33.000 We're not, I know you were expecting a 12% raise.

00:14:36.000 We're going to give you a 2.5% raise this year.

00:14:39.000 You're cutting our pay?

00:14:40.000 Yeah. No, no, no, no. Maybe you misheard me.

00:14:42.000 It's actually called a raise.

00:14:43.000 And every single time that this argument comes up, they're like, it's for the children, it's for the children.

00:14:47.000 Our scores are terrible.

00:14:49.000 We do nothing but throw money at the problem. 0.62

00:14:51.000 We spend, what, we're like ranked fifth in the world in spending per student, 40% more than other OECD countries out there, and you're telling me that you need to raise teachers and you still suck? 0.90

00:14:59.000 Yeah. Are you serious? 0.93

00:15:01.000 Where else does that occur?

00:15:02.000 Nowhere! Imagine you guys coming in here like, well, listen, I'm sorry that the overlays were not prepared.

00:15:06.000 I'm sorry the sketches were not edited, but I feel I'm deserving of a raise.

00:15:09.000 You're fired! I'm going to direct you to the rubber room. 0.86

00:15:13.000 Go in there, you can't touch me.

00:15:14.000 Hey, can't fire me. Union. What was it?

00:15:16.000 Waiting for Superman was the film about.

00:15:18.000 And they talked about rubber rooms. In New York, right?

00:15:20.000 Yeah, a long time ago.

00:15:21.000 This filmmaker was a leftist, by the way.

00:15:23.000 It was a liberal. And they jumped all over the filmmakers because it showed kind of the corruption of teachers' unions.

00:15:29.000 Yeah. By the way, if you want to talk about money in politics, I always talk about Big Oil, Koch Brothers, not even close to the money being bandied about by public sector unions.

00:15:37.000 Teachers are a big one in there. Absolutely.

00:15:39.000 Speaking of which, bumper stickers you see all the time.

00:15:41.000 I know I've talked about this ad nauseum.

00:15:42.000 This idea that we're spending more on the military.

00:15:46.000 It's like this paltry sum that's left for them.

00:15:48.000 No, actually, our total spending on education is $946 billion annually compared to $835 billion for military, including, by the way, veteran care.

00:15:58.000 Okay? Yeah. So it's important to note that just the bumper sticker doesn't necessarily...

00:16:01.000 It's not accurate. No, they're skewing the stat because 85% roughly comes from state and local governments and not federal.

00:16:07.000 By the way, all of your parents, people watching, they all went to school before there was a National Department of Education.

00:16:12.000 And they're smart. They're okay.

00:16:14.000 And the test scores are fine. Some would say they're almost...

00:16:17.000 Easier to employ than millennials. 1.00

00:16:18.000 You want to see the pay rate go up for teachers?

00:16:21.000 Get rid of public education. Tomorrow competition will go.

00:16:23.000 Get rid of public education completely?

00:16:25.000 Get rid of it. Well, he's a dick. 1.00

00:16:27.000 The Federal Department of Education. 1.00

00:16:29.000 No, get rid of the Federal Department of Education.

00:16:30.000 Get the states out of it.

00:16:33.000 Sell all the land. Let private companies come in.

00:16:35.000 Have a base for people who can't afford to go.

00:16:37.000 And watch how people can now, instead of paying property tax that goes towards it, solve the problem.

00:16:41.000 So you're talking about a school voucher program.

00:16:43.000 No, I'm saying get rid of the schools.

00:16:45.000 Well, yeah, get rid of the schools, but you're saying give a base amount for you.

00:16:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that they can't...

00:16:49.000 Yeah, exactly. So poor families...

00:16:51.000 Even there, though, you don't even have to go that far.

00:16:53.000 You can still keep public education in the states, allow them to do it, and give the kids a voucher so they can take it so at least...

00:16:57.000 Put it this way. Right now, we have an educational system where you have no choice whatsoever.

00:17:02.000 It just depends on your zoning district.

00:17:05.000 Teachers can't be fired, and our test scores suck, and we're spending more on this than our nuclear arsenal.

00:17:11.000 Right. By the way, our military also needs to hold up the Star Wars defense system for Canada.

00:17:20.000 And the rest of the free world.

00:17:22.000 The Germans. What are the Germans giving to NATO? Aren't they skimping on the bill there?

00:17:27.000 Don't they owe more than they've been paying?

00:17:28.000 No comment. Comment when it comes to plugging in social media.

00:17:32.000 That's right. When it comes to shaming his country.

00:17:34.000 And rightfully so. Nothing.

00:17:36.000 All right. So according to CNN, actually, West Virginia now, they rank...

00:17:38.000 This is the big catalyst for the story because they just get a 5% raise.

00:17:41.000 People go, it's not enough. We're cutting teachers' salaries.

00:17:44.000 Okay. West Virginia is a great example.

00:17:46.000 This was in the news recently.

00:17:48.000 They rank 48th in the nation in terms of how much they pay their teachers.

00:17:52.000 So people go, well, okay, they're long overdue.

00:17:53.000 Until you realize they rank 51st in SAT scores.

00:17:57.000 Which when I first read it, I thought that must be a typo.

00:18:00.000 No, they're a marvel.

00:18:02.000 Where else do you rank below the number of ranks?

00:18:06.000 And it's legit.

00:18:08.000 That's right, West Virginia, they rank 48th in terms of pay.

00:18:12.000 51st for SAT scores.

00:18:13.000 So I'd actually say that's pretty generous.

00:18:16.000 In any case, here to discuss it with us is Jed, our West Virginia Teachers Union correspondent.

00:18:21.000 Jed, can you hear us? Yes.

00:18:23.000 Yes, yes, yes, sir.

00:18:24.000 I can hear you. Great. Okay, so Jed, so what do you say to the skeptics out there, critics who say the 5% raise was unwarranted considering your state already is 48 for pay but 51st for SAT scores?

00:18:34.000 That's huge. That's dead last, Jed, if you were keeping track.

00:18:37.000 No, no, no. See, I'm afraid you're mistaken, Stephen.

00:18:39.000 If you do the arithmetic now, hold on.

00:18:42.000 If you add them together, you got the 48 and divides them by the 51.

00:18:46.000 That's not a thing. Jed, I think you're actually missing.

00:18:49.000 Hold on. Hold on together now.

00:18:52.000 If you put it in together and you subtract the numbers, you realize the disparity wage gap ain't even a thing, Steve, and I'm afraid you're mistaken.

00:19:02.000 Okay, how's that? Well, now hold on.

00:19:05.000 Hold on. I am. 45...

00:19:09.000 46. I don't know.

00:19:11.000 Together... Yeah, 246,100, Stephen, which is pretty much what I figured.

00:19:15.000 I don't know. You're paid in dimes.

00:19:17.000 Yeah, no, I'm entirely positive that's wrong. 0.95

00:19:18.000 Well, it's not my fault my phone didn't do the f***ing update! 0.53

00:19:22.000 There's been no update. There's not been an update. 0.81

00:19:23.000 There's absolutely been an update, Stephen.

00:19:24.000 I didn't get it. Not at all. Not even close.

00:19:26.000 No update. I'm afraid you're mistaken.

00:19:28.000 Okay, Jed. So, listen, you're ranked dead last.

00:19:30.000 Your schools are strained budget-wise, as it is, so you and your fellow teachers are getting a race. 0.99

00:19:34.000 The logic says that the money's got to come from somewhere.

00:19:36.000 Do you know what they're going to be cutting to make up for it?

00:19:39.000 Or where do you think they should? That's all you care about, Stephen, is cuts.

00:19:42.000 Cuts, cuts, cuts. We don't need any more cuts.

00:19:45.000 The day our Air Force needs to host a bake sale to fund a naval ship and teachers get the money they deserve. 0.94

00:19:50.000 It'll be a bright day for America now, since we ain't got there yet.

00:19:53.000 Whoa. Jed?

00:19:55.000 Jed, what's happening? I'm going to get my home and leave.

00:19:59.000 Okay, Jed, our West Virginia's Teachers Union correspondent, will be up after this with Ben Shapiro.

00:20:05.000 More pleasant. Now, like any commercial break, this announcement is for fans of the Louder with Crowder program.

00:20:21.000 The viewers, listeners, and downloaders joined under the umbrella of comedy.

00:20:25.000 I hope a lot of you guys and gals were listening out there because I have something I want you to do for me.

00:20:30.000 March 22nd at SMU, 7 p.m.

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00:20:37.000 I know, I know, it's murder asking you to leave your computers and smart devices for a live show in 2018.

00:20:42.000 And certainly a show this high energy is no cakewalk.

00:20:45.000 Although it shouldn't be too tough to attend for those who live in the Texas area.

00:20:48.000 But remember this. All the leftists, social justice warriors, and professional protesters in Texas are already trying to stop this show from happening.

00:20:56.000 They tried to run us out in a rail last time at SMU, and now we're offering you a chance to rub it in their face and fill up their whole damn theater with laughter. 0.92

00:21:04.000 Which is the nicest gift you'll ever get from the nicest live show you'll ever see. 0.96

00:21:09.000 Oh, and they won't know what to do with themselves.

00:21:12.000 Because... What do you do with an Antifa when he won't stop being an Antifa?

00:21:19.000 It seems this campus really would enjoy laughing at one and two and three and four small Antifa unemployed.

00:21:35.000 So remember now, your objective is SMU, 7 o'clock on March 22nd.

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00:22:00.000 You've got to be cool.

00:22:02.000 Get it. Get it.

00:22:03.000 Glad to have our next guest.

00:22:04.000 By the way, his parents have to sign a permission slip for him to be on the show.

00:22:08.000 You know his show at dailywire.com.

00:22:11.000 He has to have it everywhere.

00:22:13.000 He has to be gaudy about it. It's called the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:22:17.000 Unlike with me, some people think my first name is Louder.

00:22:19.000 You can follow him on the Twitter.

00:22:21.000 Ben Shapiro, how are you, sir?

00:22:24.000 I'm doing okay. Just as always, when I watch a dance, I wonder what I've done with my life.

00:22:28.000 Yeah, well... Why this is happening.

00:22:30.000 I feel that way when I dance, which I've been told is actually the sign of a good dancer.

00:22:35.000 It's immediate regret, followed by comorbid tendencies.

00:22:39.000 Heard that from Baryshnikov, did you?

00:22:41.000 Yes, yes, exactly.

00:22:43.000 I've been studying a lot of...

00:22:45.000 I took a humanities course in college, so this is what I've learned.

00:22:49.000 Speaking of humanities, Ben, this week has just teed up for you.

00:22:52.000 Let me just say the names. Nunberg, Cohn, your thoughts?

00:22:58.000 Okay, so...

00:22:59.000 We already know! 0.80

00:23:02.000 Why don't we begin with the globalist cuck Gary Cohn, who's finally out. 0.99

00:23:07.000 We're not calling him a globalist cuck because he's Jewish. 0.98

00:23:09.000 We would never do such a thing. 0.98

00:23:10.000 No, no, no. We call him a globalist because he likes free trade.

00:23:14.000 And so he's out. There's just total staffing chaos inside the administration, which is not a shock, considering that Sam Nunberg was once part of the Trump campaign.

00:23:23.000 The top men seen from Raiders of the Lost Ark was apparently that guy actually did the staffing at the Trump campaign and then did it again at the Trump White House.

00:23:33.000 So Gary Cohn being out is actually, it's less about Gary Cohn than about the guy who's replacing him, whose name slips my mind at this point.

00:23:43.000 Peter Navarro, who apparently knows nothing about free trade, knows nothing about economics.

00:23:47.000 But it's firmly convinced that if we increase the price on every one of basic steel products, that somehow the smelters will come back to Pittsburgh or something.

00:23:55.000 This sort of bizarre Idea that what we really need in America is more people in really heavy gear carrying around things like a scene out of Zoolander and having big fiery chasms beneath them.

00:24:10.000 We need it to look like Mordor.

00:24:11.000 We need more Mordor-looking parts of America. 0.99

00:24:13.000 This is what's going to restore economic health.

00:24:14.000 I'm also not entirely convinced that Cohn didn't shoot a face-off sequel with Kevin O'Leary.

00:24:21.000 When you see the stills...

00:24:23.000 Hold on a second. Kevin O'Leary worked for Donald Trump?

00:24:26.000 Who knew? Who knew? Him being out, I mean, I've talked to people in the White House.

00:24:30.000 I mean, listen, the chaos inside the White House is a very real thing.

00:24:33.000 Everybody in the White House basically has a last will and testament written up.

00:24:38.000 Everybody knows that they could be gone at any minute, or they're thinking about quitting at any minute, because, let's face it, Trump is not a good person to work for.

00:24:44.000 Okay, turnover in this administration is extremely high.

00:24:47.000 When you saw Trump the other day doing the Everyone wants to work here.

00:24:50.000 Only the best people want to work.

00:24:52.000 Who wants to be communications director?

00:24:55.000 Stormy Daniels? I'm sure she'd settle out of court. 1.00

00:25:00.000 I think Huma's still trying for something.

00:25:02.000 Yeah, exactly. I could make you communications director inside of a week.

00:25:05.000 We would just book you on Fox& Friends every morning for a week, and you would talk about how awesome Trump is, and you'd become his director, and you'd last for approximately two weeks until you said something halfway intelligent, at which point you'd be out on your ass. 0.99

00:25:17.000 The only decision would be saline or silicone. 0.99

00:25:20.000 What would I go for to ensure job security?

00:25:24.000 Here's the thing. We talked about this the last time you were on.

00:25:27.000 Trump's bite, his bark is worse than his bite.

00:25:30.000 His policies were pretty good toward the end of the year, toward the beginning of the year.

00:25:33.000 And then the shooting happened, and of course it was like we talked about, 64D underwater backwards backgammon where he was actually pushing for some of this gun control legislation.

00:25:41.000 Now we don't really know.

00:25:43.000 And here we have it this week with the tariffs and the taxes.

00:25:45.000 This is something I've always been against.

00:25:47.000 A lot of people don't understand. I think the biggest partner in steel I think we have in the United States or aluminum is Canada.

00:25:55.000 It's not China. It's Canada.

00:25:57.000 China's number 11 on the list. Yeah, China's number 11 on the list.

00:26:00.000 Yes. The notion that we're being screwed by Chinese steel is just not true.

00:26:04.000 70% of all steel consumed in the United States is created in the United States.

00:26:08.000 The steel industry produced 5% more than they did last year, the year before, meaning that it's actually growing, the steel industry, in the United States.

00:26:15.000 The stock price at companies like Nucor was like $10 in 2000.

00:26:20.000 Now it's like $62. The United States has been producing approximately the same amount of steel since 1983.

00:26:25.000 It's just that only 25% of the same number of employees are required to produce that amount of steel because technology is what's taking away the jobs, not competition from foreign sources.

00:26:34.000 So none of this makes any sense. For every job in the steel industry, there are at least 40 jobs that are dependent on products from the steel industry, meaning that if you increase tariffs, which increase prices in the steel industry, you're passing those prices on to a bevy of other industries.

00:26:46.000 And I'm sorry, watching billionaire Wilbur Ross on national television holding up a Campbell's soup can to explain to the poor why it is that it doesn't matter that they're paying a little bit more for their canned soup is not real good press.

00:26:56.000 Do they use steel? I thought that was tin.

00:26:58.000 Hmm. It's steel-plated tin, right?

00:27:02.000 I guess that's right, because tin would corrode, right?

00:27:05.000 I don't know exactly. Either way, there's BPA and someone's getting some cancer if it's Campbell's soup, from what I understand.

00:27:11.000 At least a little pair. I just need to buy my oregano oil.

00:27:13.000 You'll be all good. Let me ask you this.

00:27:16.000 There is some inconsistency here.

00:27:18.000 Because I understand some people support this idea because they feel as though we've been screwed on free trade.

00:27:22.000 Now here, there is some truth.

00:27:23.000 There's a kernel of truth, right? A good example is I talked about this with Ronald Reagan.

00:27:26.000 The least conservative thing he did was the Harley Davidson fiasco.

00:27:30.000 The reason Americans wanted Japanese bikes at that time was because they were better.

00:27:33.000 Anyone go back to the AMF days?

00:27:35.000 Just awful, awful, awful motorcycles.

00:27:37.000 And the protectionism actually hurt the consumer because we wanted to preserve an American company that should have gone bankrupt.

00:27:43.000 Some people don't care. Be American, buy American.

00:27:45.000 So let's put that aside because I know we're not going to get everyone to agree.

00:27:48.000 I think everyone has to agree that there is a...

00:27:51.000 This is how I feel about this.

00:27:52.000 There's a wildly inconsistent message this week.

00:27:54.000 Either the economy is rip-roaring and it's booming and we're doing fantastically and we can't take enough winning, or we're getting screwed by foreign competitors and we need to batten down the hatches. 0.81

00:28:05.000 It seems like there are some mixed signals.

00:28:07.000 For sure. And I think this is one of the problems for Trump is that he doesn't care about the numbers.

00:28:11.000 He's not interested in the numbers. And you can see that because the stock market has been down since these announcements about the tariffs.

00:28:16.000 The markets have been thrown into turmoil.

00:28:19.000 All the good that was done by the tax cuts could easily be taken away through a trade war.

00:28:23.000 I think it's more about Trump has this vision in his head of 1956 America when we were just making assembly line trucks.

00:28:30.000 And we were making our own steel in Pittsburgh and in Gary, Indiana.

00:28:33.000 And never mind the fact that the sky was like purple because of all of the garbage that was being tossed into the air.

00:28:40.000 In the production of that steel, never mind the fact that the Pittsburgh unemployment rate today is 4.6%, significantly lower than it was During those days and the air is breathable in Pittsburgh because everybody is now in the healthcare industry or the service industry.

00:28:51.000 It's why I think, honestly, there's such a gap in the feelings about Trump between people who are 60 and up and people who are 40 and under.

00:28:58.000 People who are 40 and under look at this and they go, what are you even talking about?

00:29:01.000 You're talking about the steel industry as though, as the steel industry goes, so goes America.

00:29:06.000 I don't know anybody who actually works in the steel industry.

00:29:09.000 I know people in the car industry.

00:29:10.000 I know people in the service industry.

00:29:12.000 And then there are a bunch of people who are over 60, and they remember working at a plant for 40 years and getting their gold watch for retirement.

00:29:18.000 And they're thinking, well, if we could bring back those days, that would actually fix everything.

00:29:21.000 That's an interesting point. I'd like to stay on that for a second because I was just watching Driving Miss Daisy the night with my wife.

00:29:25.000 It was her grandfather's favorite film.

00:29:27.000 Also, by the way, he was an amazing man, Fred Corzon.

00:29:30.000 He was mayor.

00:29:33.000 They call him city commissioner for Bloomfield, where Mitt Romney was from.

00:29:36.000 Professor. Ph.D., and was a bombardier in World War II. Just incredible.

00:29:40.000 You go to the funeral, you're like, oh my God, what am I doing with my life?

00:29:42.000 His favorite film was Driving Miss Daisy.

00:29:43.000 So it was an emotional roller coaster to watch it with my wife, because she had never seen it.

00:29:46.000 But, you know, Dan Aykroyd plays one of your folks, see?

00:29:50.000 But in the South, it's always weird hearing a Winn-Dixie Jew. 1.00

00:29:53.000 You're like, what is this? It was just horrible casting.

00:29:58.000 Anyway, but he walks past the assembly line, and you see these people, right?

00:30:01.000 He owns this big factory, and just...

00:30:02.000 You know, it sounds like bullets going off in this factory, and you see hundreds of people employed.

00:30:07.000 I'm going, hold on a second. When people talk about how millennials now, there's less job security than ever, and they feel like the lost generation, they've been abandoned.

00:30:13.000 I'm going, how many millennials would spend...

00:30:16.000 Nine, ten hours a day in one of those factories.

00:30:19.000 Because when we're talking about the good old American days, that's what you're talking about with job security.

00:30:23.000 That was Pittsburgh back then with a higher unemployment rate.

00:30:27.000 But how many millennials will be willing to do that?

00:30:29.000 They benefit from the technology.

00:30:30.000 I think there's a disconnect where when people talk about it, they need to say, this is what job security means.

00:30:35.000 This kind of job back then, you'd hear a muddy different tune.

00:30:39.000 That's exactly right. The same people who decry the lack of job security are the same people who are with Nancy Pelosi when she says that we should ensure that you don't have job lock, that you shouldn't be forced to actually be in a job in order to have health insurance.

00:30:50.000 These are people who want to switch jobs every couple of years, or they want to pursue their dreams of being an artist.

00:30:55.000 But the notion that any of them are going to sit there and weld If they want to weld, they could do it right now.

00:31:00.000 There are plenty of welding jobs in the United States, but can you imagine any of these gender studies majors actually welding? 1.00

00:31:04.000 They're talking about the evils of capitalism and the lack of job security, and then they're majoring in gender studies.

00:31:09.000 If you cared about job security, maybe you'd go into those industries that are supposedly so hallowed about job security.

00:31:14.000 Again, the only reason that those assembly line jobs were considered so awesome in 1930 is because assembly line jobs in 1830 were even worse.

00:31:21.000 Meaning that the jobs now are better than the jobs then.

00:31:24.000 You'd want to work them more.

00:31:26.000 We laugh at people who are baristas at Starbucks.

00:31:29.000 That's a better job. It is better to be a barista at Starbucks than it is to be sitting on an assembly line ensuring that stuff that people are now doing in Vietnam is being done in the United States. 0.78

00:31:39.000 It's such foolishness. 0.71

00:31:40.000 So you're saying you're more of a rivet guy. 0.99

00:31:43.000 Yeah, exactly. You gotta rivet.

00:31:46.000 What's a rivet? You are so Los Angeles Jewish. 1.00

00:31:51.000 Like, I can't rivet. I'll ruin my hands. 0.91

00:31:53.000 These are the money makers.

00:31:54.000 This and this are the money makers.

00:31:56.000 I play violin. I play violin.

00:31:57.000 Come on. Gotta keep the hands fresh.

00:31:59.000 I have to get my sneakers some journeys.

00:32:01.000 How much? We have to get going here pretty soon?

00:32:03.000 Yeah, 10 minutes. Oh, we've only been on for 10 minutes?

00:32:05.000 Only been on for 10 minutes. It feels like forever.

00:32:08.000 It's been an eternity. You said Nunberg.

00:32:11.000 Have I been saying it wrong this whole time?

00:32:12.000 I've been hearing people on the news saying Noonberg.

00:32:13.000 I think so. Well, maybe they're mixing up him and Devin Noons.

00:32:17.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:32:19.000 There's Devin Nunes, Nunez, Nanu, and then there's Nanu, Nanu, and then there's...

00:32:24.000 Yeah, I'm not going to work here no more.

00:32:27.000 What's your read on the Nunberg situation?

00:32:30.000 Obviously, because he came out... 1.00

00:32:31.000 He's a crazy person. I mean, that guy's crazy. 1.00

00:32:34.000 That dude be crazy. And that's not a shock. 0.99

00:32:37.000 He actually called me one time during the election cycles, right after he'd been fired from the Trump campaign. 0.99

00:32:42.000 He's crazy. So, like, that was not a great shock. 0.90

00:32:46.000 Expect another call from him very shortly.

00:32:48.000 What? My favorite part is the part where Aaron Burnett is asking him if he's been day drinking.

00:32:55.000 And he's, like, gulping from the cup.

00:32:57.000 And you just got to imagine that there's whiskey in it for that to be absolutely hilarious.

00:33:01.000 But Aaron Burnett, that was the one that really struck me.

00:33:03.000 It was all these other people, like he's calling into Jake Tapper.

00:33:06.000 How's Jake supposed to know that this guy is a legitimate loony?

00:33:09.000 But if you're sitting across from somebody and you say to them, have you been drinking because I smell alcohol on your breath?

00:33:14.000 Then the question becomes, so why is he on your show?

00:33:17.000 And you do have to ask yourself why it is—let's say Austin Goolsbee just started showing up randomly to the Obama administration guy. 1.00

00:33:26.000 He started randomly showing up to TV shows looking drunk off his ass. 0.99

00:33:30.000 Do you think he makes the air that night? 0.99

00:33:32.000 Do you think they're just like, you know what, this is going to make great TV? Exactly.

00:33:35.000 That's right. Nobody allows him anywhere near a camera.

00:33:38.000 But Nunberg is apparently a representative of a rather non-sober administration, so it's okay to do that.

00:33:43.000 In the defense of the media, I will say this.

00:33:45.000 In defense of Donald Trump, he's a teetotaler.

00:33:46.000 I don't think he's ever touched a drop.

00:33:48.000 No, that's right. But the attitude, obviously, is less than sober over at the White House, and it was during the campaign.

00:33:56.000 And in defense of the media, I will say this. 0.95

00:33:57.000 It is very difficult to distinguish people who are Crazy like they should be in a loony bin crazy from people who are just crazy in politics.

00:34:06.000 If there were a guy who were wandering around trying to get himself booked on morning shows, let's say 2012, claiming that the president of the United States was born in Kenya and firing off tweets to like Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson, you might think maybe that guy shouldn't be on TV, but then he wouldn't be president of the United States, would he? So it's kind of difficult to...

00:34:24.000 Isn't Kirsten sort of lesbian though now? 1.00

00:34:26.000 So I don't follow that part. I don't follow that at all.

00:34:28.000 She's a lesbian now. She likes to keep her options open. 1.00

00:34:30.000 Oh, really? Did that happen? That's kind of...

00:34:31.000 Yeah, but that's got to be rough on Pattinson.

00:34:34.000 Robert Pattinson? I think you might be gay, too. 0.99

00:34:36.000 I don't know. But I saw him in a movie, a film recently. 0.96

00:34:39.000 It wasn't very good. Wouldn't that be amazing if they had a relationship and now he's gay and she's a lesbian? 0.91

00:34:44.000 It would be. I'd say a lot about that relationship.

00:34:46.000 Yes, it would. It would almost be like Danny Kaye back in the day, or Rock Hudson, where they were all arranged, but secretly they were playing, you know, I'll find a coin with Gomer Pyle.

00:34:56.000 I also saw a film recently with Daniel Radcliffe.

00:34:59.000 They're trying to get out of their roles.

00:35:01.000 Daniel Radcliffe is so embarrassingly bad at doing accents.

00:35:04.000 It's this film called The Jungle.

00:35:06.000 Ben, have you seen this film, The Jungle, with Daniel Radcliffe?

00:35:11.000 No. That sounds awful.

00:35:13.000 I still have no idea what accent he was trying to do.

00:35:15.000 I was like, oh, okay, so it's clearly Russian.

00:35:17.000 Then I go, no, no, it's Bolivian.

00:35:19.000 And then it turns out his dad was a Jew in an internment camp in, like, Poland.

00:35:23.000 I mean, now I just don't know what to think. 0.97

00:35:25.000 All I know is Harry Potter sucks at acting. 0.78

00:35:28.000 Sounds amazing. I don't know how we ended up here.

00:35:31.000 I don't know how we ended up here either.

00:35:32.000 Let's just stick here. I mean, anybody want to talk to Manji?

00:35:35.000 I mean, as long as we're just talking...

00:35:37.000 I haven't seen the Jumanji.

00:35:38.000 I don't want to ruin, you know, I want to leave it there, my childhood memory.

00:35:42.000 Oh, wait, should we do Oscars? Come on, how do we not do Oscars, dude?

00:35:44.000 Because I did Oscars for four and a half hours, and I am Oscar house.

00:35:47.000 That's true, you did do that, and I ditched you.

00:35:49.000 I ditched you on that, didn't I? That is true.

00:35:51.000 It's an unfortunate moment in our relationship, yeah. 0.98

00:35:53.000 Well, listen, fish sex, that's all you gotta do. 0.99

00:35:55.000 Fish sex, you win an award, apparently. 0.99

00:35:57.000 Yeah, grinding Nemo, man. Grinding Nemo. 1.00

00:36:02.000 Was it Dory?

00:36:03.000 What's the name of the other one?

00:36:04.000 Dory and Marlin? Dory.

00:36:06.000 She forgot it because of PTSD. She blocked it out!

00:36:10.000 I haven't seen it.

00:36:12.000 It's the only film I think on there, that and Lady Bird, that I hadn't seen.

00:36:15.000 But you have seen Fish Sex, also known as Shape of Water.

00:36:18.000 Your thoughts? Yeah, SJW Splash. 0.96

00:36:22.000 It's the exact plot of Splash, except for it's a black woman, a gay man, and a mute. 0.86

00:36:27.000 And a mute woman rescuing Splash.

00:36:31.000 That's exactly right. If you cross around with Splash and said it in the 1960s, it's The Shape of Water.

00:36:36.000 And then everybody praises it and says it's awesome.

00:36:38.000 So, one of the great war movies of all time, Dunkirk, versus SJW Splash.

00:36:42.000 Where do you think Hollywood's going to go with this one?

00:36:45.000 I think they're singing the show. It's 1,000, 25,600 gallons.

00:36:50.000 And then they have sex with a fish. 0.99

00:36:51.000 It is really just despicable. 0.99

00:36:53.000 We always said, hey, it's a slippery slope.

00:36:55.000 Where does it stop? Do we get to interspecies?

00:36:57.000 It stops at Kurt Eichenwald.

00:36:58.000 It stops at Kurt Eichenwald, a tender movie about Kurt Eichenwald and tentacle porn.

00:37:04.000 That's where this ends. Well, it was really hard.

00:37:07.000 I mean, Not Gay Jared barely, I mean, I don't think his liver even made it through after two and a half hours of drinking game.

00:37:11.000 It was the SJ. And what's funny is there was a disconnect.

00:37:13.000 I mean, let's face it. Not Gay Jared's expiration date is two minutes from now. 1.00

00:37:17.000 I mean, with all the traffic you put him through.

00:37:19.000 I mean, you, like, electrocuted the guy.

00:37:20.000 You beat him with sticks.

00:37:22.000 You, like, make him drink to excess.

00:37:24.000 I mean, I'm just shocked the man's alive.

00:37:26.000 The liver transplant list has already been set up for Naki Jared. 0.75

00:37:30.000 He's being held together by double-sided tape and strings from Jim Henson's Creature Shop right now.

00:37:34.000 Melted Skittles. He's not at all what you think.

00:37:35.000 Let me ask you this. Do you think, as it goes, because last time you said, you know what, Donald Trump, if he continues this, could be a two-termer.

00:37:40.000 After this week, do you think he could right the ship?

00:37:44.000 This has been a rough week, obviously.

00:37:46.000 I mean, always it's if trends hold.

00:37:49.000 So, so far, there's been no trend.

00:37:51.000 Basically, it's been a scatterplot, is how his presidency has gone.

00:37:54.000 He'll have a week that's an A, and then he'll have a week that's an F. And there's no continuous trend.

00:37:58.000 So for two months there, it seemed like, okay, maybe this is under control.

00:38:02.000 Maybe he's really getting a hold of things.

00:38:03.000 And now it seems like he's been isolated in the West Wing.

00:38:06.000 So Jared and Ivanka are obviously sort of alienated from the president at this point by John Kelly.

00:38:10.000 John Kelly is apparently being ripped by Anthony Scaramucci at the behest of Donald Trump on national TV. He's lost Rob Porter.

00:38:16.000 He's lost Hope Hicks. A lot of his security blankets are gone.

00:38:19.000 And so he's sort of lashing out and also identifying with people like Peter Navarro.

00:38:22.000 So it's... He would have been better with Dave Navarro from NXX. I think Dave Navarro would have been a better choice at this point.

00:38:30.000 At this point, who's to know?

00:38:31.000 I would just appoint anyone.

00:38:33.000 Like, yeah, Ben Shapiro, you want a job?

00:38:34.000 Alright, come on in. You don't even like me.

00:38:36.000 Just do whatever. I don't care.

00:38:37.000 Not for all the tea in China, my friend.

00:38:41.000 The idea of working for that administration.

00:38:43.000 I have a story to tell you after, when we go, when we hit a break here.

00:38:48.000 And you'll like to hear this off air.

00:38:49.000 But it is the Ben Shapiro Show, of course, at dailywire.com.

00:38:52.000 I'm still fuzzy-headed from the Oscars.

00:38:54.000 And you can listen to him on iTunes, on the SoundCloud, all over the place.

00:38:58.000 And he loves that Quip toothbrush.

00:39:00.000 We will talk with you soon, Mr.

00:39:01.000 Shapiro. Thanks a lot.

00:39:05.000 Now you're best for her.

00:39:08.000 When the best time for the world Hello, a lot of crowd of viewers.

00:39:22.000 Papa here. Don't forget that you can listen to the podcast on the go on iTunes and SoundCloud.

00:39:29.000 In the audio, you can download it and you can listen at Live read time, one live read per week. 0.99

00:39:41.000 Unlike Ben Shapiro with those damn electric toothbrushes and their sheets. 0.99

00:39:44.000 Never end. How many toothbrushes do you need? 1.00

00:39:45.000 I tell you what, he does have good products.

00:39:46.000 That's nice. They're less afraid of him than they are of us.

00:39:48.000 Listen, thank you so much, everyone.

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00:40:39.000 Enjoy the rest of the show. Again, due to the painkillers and the injury.

00:40:54.000 Big fan of our next guest.

00:40:56.000 I grew up watching him.

00:40:57.000 I grew up as a fan of his comedy.

00:41:00.000 And then I got to know him. There are a few people where that's the case.

00:41:02.000 Nick DiPaolo is one.

00:41:05.000 I didn't really watch Joe Rogan's stand-up a whole lot because I was in Canada.

00:41:08.000 We didn't really have access to it. But I watched him obviously on Fear Factor.

00:41:11.000 Dennis Prager I listen to on the radio a lot.

00:41:14.000 And this next gentleman, Jim Norton.

00:41:15.000 You can follow him on the Twitter, at Jim Norton.

00:41:17.000 How are you, sir? I'm good, buddy.

00:41:19.000 It's funny, on Twitter, I was looking, I'm sorry to hear about your back, but it's amazing what, like, you're like, yeah, I hurt my back, and people just immediately, hey, try falling off a scaffolding, you fruit!

00:41:30.000 Like, their back injuries are legit, and yours is like, you know, you're a little sissy because you hurt your back doing something other than like a man's task. 0.64

00:41:38.000 Right. Yeah, I know. This is true.

00:41:39.000 Although, you know, I did do it doing a sissy task. 0.98

00:41:42.000 What were you doing?

00:41:43.000 It was actually warming up, and I didn't respect the warm-up weight doing deadlifts.

00:41:48.000 And I was in a rush, and so I skipped a couple warm-up sets, and it was funny.

00:41:52.000 It was loud enough where... And actually the guy across the gym was like, oh, did you just hurt your back?

00:41:56.000 I said, yeah.

00:41:57.000 Do you mind taking off the weights? And then it's that rush home because you're in the eye of the storm, you know, before it seizes up on you.

00:42:03.000 Do you wear like a belt when you lift?

00:42:05.000 Because I just watched a video of the guy from Game of Thrones Mountain just broke the deadlift record.

00:42:09.000 Yeah. I think he just set a world record lifting like a little over a thousand pounds.

00:42:12.000 Did you? No, no.

00:42:14.000 No, no, no. He's probably one hell of a venture though.

00:42:16.000 Just that range of motion. Just 800 pounds.

00:42:19.000 Yeah. No, he actually lifted Peter Dinklage and five of his friends.

00:42:23.000 Yes, exactly. No, I didn't know that.

00:42:26.000 You know, the guy actually was talking with me about that today because that was held before by Eddie Hall.

00:42:31.000 And Eddie Hall is one of the few strongmen to ever compete.

00:42:34.000 Watch people, like, what are you doing with a strongman?

00:42:35.000 There's actually a film about it called Born Strong.

00:42:37.000 It's fascinating. He was, at this point, he had never won strongman.

00:42:41.000 He was competing against the mountains, Avizkas is one guy, and Brian Shaw.

00:42:45.000 But he did hold the world record deadlift, I guess, until it was broken.

00:42:48.000 And he said, as soon as I win World's Strongest Man, I will quit and I will lose, you know, 100-something.

00:42:53.000 And he did. He won it, and then he walked away because these people did not live long.

00:42:57.000 But the mountain is like 6'8", 6'9", 400-something pounds.

00:43:01.000 Aren't those guys all from Iceland, too?

00:43:02.000 They're all Icelandic. There's only like 300,000 people in Iceland, and all of them are World's Strongest Men competitors.

00:43:08.000 I don't know. Keep that gene pool small. 0.99

00:43:11.000 I guess so, yeah.

00:43:12.000 I guess so. They're all having sex with each other, yeah. 1.00

00:43:14.000 Yes, well, the study came out today. 0.99

00:43:16.000 Your third cousin, it's fine. It just can't be your first cousin.

00:43:18.000 It does not taint the gene pool.

00:43:21.000 Oh, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So listen, I know you have your tour.

00:43:23.000 Your next March 16th at the DC Improv, or is it DC Improv?

00:43:27.000 Foxwoods, March 16th, yeah.

00:43:28.000 Foxwoods, okay. And DC Improv, 22nd to 24th.

00:43:31.000 I wanted to ask you this, because you're obviously one of the biggest names in stand-up out there right now.

00:43:35.000 Can you remember your first time when you sold out a venue where people were there for you?

00:43:41.000 Oh, yeah. I was just getting on Opie and Anthony.

00:43:44.000 It was a place in Philadelphia.

00:43:46.000 It seats like 500, and it was called the Theater of the Living Arts.

00:43:50.000 Sounds like one hell of a rockin' party.

00:43:53.000 TLA! We said TLA for short.

00:43:55.000 That's how all the rock stars said it.

00:43:57.000 Yeah, that's how you know the kids are into it.

00:43:58.000 Yeah. Theater of the Living Arts, and I sold out five shows in a couple of days.

00:44:03.000 Wow. So that was the first thing that indicated to me, like, wow, this radio thing really is going to bring in an audience.

00:44:07.000 But it's a weird—it's a relief and it's a pressure.

00:44:10.000 Like, the relief is, I know I just have to be funny.

00:44:13.000 I'm not going to offend them. If they're Opie and Anthony fans and they're there to see me, they're probably there to listen to what I have to say.

00:44:20.000 But if I suck, they're going to let me know it because they're Opie and Anthony fans and they paid to see me.

00:44:23.000 So I knew I had to be funny, but I knew I didn't have to worry about offending them. 0.91

00:44:28.000 So it was kind of a pressure and no pressure at the same time.

00:44:30.000 That's a good way of describing it because that was the first time for us at Virginia Tech where it was a 550 seat and they were turning hundreds of people away.

00:44:36.000 And we were surprised. We actually, you know, because the comedy compression, I talk with these guys about it all the time, you want people packed in.

00:44:41.000 If it's a room, you want them packed in as tightly as possible.

00:44:44.000 So I had actually roped off the back rows and the side rows because I was like, well, let's put them in this pocket.

00:44:49.000 And it was a bizarre experience.

00:44:51.000 I think that's a good way to put it. You know there's some buy-in.

00:44:53.000 So you know, okay, they understand where we're coming from.

00:44:56.000 We're not going to have to worry about offending them despite Antifa protesting outside.

00:44:59.000 But they're here for a good time.

00:45:00.000 The flip side is... We better be funny, you know, because they are here, like you said, to see us.

00:45:04.000 And it changes the whole dynamics.

00:45:06.000 I wonder if you've managed to keep sort of, I guess, your stand-up chops.

00:45:11.000 A lot of guys get their second special.

00:45:12.000 It's not the same. It's not as good.

00:45:14.000 I see that a lot. I like my newer ones better than my older ones.

00:45:18.000 I'm more comfortable on stage.

00:45:19.000 I enjoy them a lot more.

00:45:21.000 It depends on how long it takes.

00:45:23.000 It took me a while to get my first one, but I never stopped doing stand-up.

00:45:25.000 Some guys just kind of, they tour on the same hour they just shot.

00:45:30.000 And I'm like, what are you doing?

00:45:31.000 You just did that on TV. Everyone's gonna go there and know your dumb jokes. 1.00

00:45:35.000 That would bore me to tears, too. 1.00

00:45:36.000 I couldn't do it.

00:45:38.000 So right now, I'm not ready for another special.

00:45:40.000 On this tour, I'm cycling through.

00:45:42.000 There's so much stuff to talk about.

00:45:44.000 The topical stuff just kind of goes out the back door.

00:45:46.000 That also speaks to your work ethic. Because that means, you know, I've told us to not cage here.

00:45:50.000 Because, you know, you don't have really the same experience or Sven computer here.

00:45:54.000 We're actually doing the full show live.

00:45:55.000 The monologues, sketches, interactive stuff with the audience.

00:45:58.000 And I said, listen, you've got to re-earn it every show.

00:46:00.000 The next show, they don't know. They don't know this thunderous applause.

00:46:03.000 They have no idea. You're starting at.0.

00:46:04.000 But a lot of comedians lose sight of that.

00:46:06.000 And that's one thing that...

00:46:07.000 Eh, not to blow smoke, but I've always watched your recent special.

00:46:10.000 I'm like, oh, wow, the quality is actually...

00:46:12.000 I wouldn't say gone up.

00:46:14.000 Certainly not gone down. It's been consistently really good.

00:46:17.000 And that's really good. It's not the case, though, with a lot of...

00:46:20.000 Thank you. Yeah, I mean, you can't...

00:46:22.000 The thing is, I'm just desperate.

00:46:23.000 Like, I look at it like...

00:46:25.000 At any minute, everyone is going to realize I stink. 0.97

00:46:28.000 So it's like I do the chip podcast, I do radio, I do my gay. 0.94

00:46:33.000 I'm trying to do everything just in case everything else is taken away.

00:46:37.000 Just so you know, you didn't finish that thought, and so what you just said was, I do my gay, and you continued.

00:46:41.000 Oh, that was probably my mind just saying, go ahead, out yourself.

00:46:45.000 So you shared it completely, really.

00:46:48.000 Let me ask you, are you a guy, and then we'll talk about Stormy Daniels, because I'm sure you have some thoughts.

00:46:51.000 Let me ask you this. Are you a guy who always gets nervous before on stage?

00:46:55.000 Or are you someone who's, because I've always envied people who don't.

00:46:59.000 I think I do get mildly.

00:47:01.000 Carson said he used to get nervous.

00:47:04.000 I'm not nervous like, oh no, I'm not funny.

00:47:07.000 What I'm nervous about is I hope I don't forget my act.

00:47:10.000 I know most of the material will work in front of my audience because I've worked it out enough, but I hope I don't forget my act.

00:47:18.000 I panic. I was going through this thing years ago where I was on stage.

00:47:21.000 I was on a theater tour and I was getting lightheaded and I thought I was going to vomit on stage.

00:47:26.000 And I was at the Orpheum in Boston, and I'm physically holding onto a chair in front of about 2,300 people, and I'm like, I'm gonna collapse, I'm gonna collapse.

00:47:33.000 And I realized I was just afraid.

00:47:34.000 And I finally just said to myself, you just shut up and collapse then, like in my head.

00:47:39.000 And then it went away, because I realized you're gonna faint on stage. 0.97

00:47:42.000 Your inner monologue is Cagney, that's your con? 1.00

00:47:45.000 Shut up and collapse, buddy! 1.00

00:47:47.000 Look, Ma, bottom of the world! 1.00

00:47:51.000 This was after you had risen to fame after your special?

00:47:54.000 Oh, yeah. So you had it, okay, okay.

00:47:56.000 2002, this, no, it was actually before my special.

00:47:58.000 This was 2002. Okay.

00:47:59.000 This was after Opie and Anthony first got fired, Monster Rainwood.

00:48:01.000 My first special was 2007.

00:48:02.000 Right. But I was just scared, man, and I didn't know how to say I was scared.

00:48:06.000 So it made it into this physical thing, you're going to collapse! 0.85

00:48:09.000 And then I just finally just screamed at myself, like, just shut up!

00:48:11.000 I was so disgusted with myself, and it kind of snapped me out of it.

00:48:14.000 Wow, that is incredible.

00:48:16.000 Well, you know what? There you go. You should do like a Jordan Peterson book, 12 Rules for Life with Jim Norton.

00:48:20.000 Stage fright. I think a lot of people wouldn't realize that that would help.

00:48:23.000 Hey, speaking of which, let me ask you, what do you think about the state of comedy as it relates more so to the entertainment industry?

00:48:28.000 We just saw the Oscars. I don't know who you're...

00:48:30.000 Obviously, I know you were tight with Jay Leno.

00:48:32.000 I don't know who you're friends with in the late night department, so I don't want to get you in trouble, but Kimmel was super, super political there.

00:48:37.000 A turnoff for a lot of people.

00:48:39.000 I watched it, and it just seemed so flat, and it occurred to me.

00:48:42.000 In 2018... Comedy, certainly as it relates to what you can see on television, thank God for Netflix and YouTube, it's not very fun anymore.

00:48:50.000 You know, somebody raised a good point.

00:48:52.000 I love Gervais when he hosts the Golden Globes because he kind of sets out to ruin their night.

00:48:56.000 And somebody pointed out that you either play to the audience or you play to the people at home.

00:49:00.000 Ricky plays to the people at home and Jimmy was playing to the audience.

00:49:04.000 I was actually impressed because I was surprised he addressed Harvey Weinstein at all.

00:49:09.000 I thought that they were going to totally and just bash Trump.

00:49:12.000 And like, you want to bash Trump? That's fine.

00:49:13.000 He's the president. But I thought it was just going to be so predictive.

00:49:16.000 But I was a little shocked that they went into it.

00:49:18.000 And they did talk about Me Too.

00:49:20.000 It's a tough gig for him too because a lot of those people might be victims in the audience who have had assaults from producers and not know what to do.

00:49:29.000 He's probably going to bomb at the Oscars and then ruin the fact that he's never going to get these people on his show.

00:49:33.000 Don't forget, he's performing for the people who come on his show.

00:49:36.000 So that's kind of a tough gig.

00:49:38.000 That's a good point for the audience at home, because imagine how hard.

00:49:42.000 I mean, we would have been pissing ourselves laughing if he made, you know, the Hollywood rape jokes, and it made people in the audience really uncomfortable.

00:49:49.000 You know, cut to Jennifer Garner, and she's like, and you're like, ah, she was one of them!

00:49:53.000 We would be laughing at home, but you can't, so he has to cater to them.

00:49:57.000 It's kind of like a talk about with a debate.

00:49:59.000 We do these Change My Mind segments.

00:50:01.000 What you have to do is identify who you're talking with.

00:50:03.000 Is it someone whose mind can be changed?

00:50:05.000 If so, you try to. And if it's not, if it's like a hardcore leftist who wants to get a span from SMU, what you have to do is go, okay, at this point, I'm talking to them for everyone else watching.

00:50:15.000 Sure. Yeah, I've long since given up trying to change people's opinions because...

00:50:20.000 It's not my job as a comedian.

00:50:22.000 As a comic, I try to be funny, and I wanna be original, and I wanna express my opinion, and if people like it, great.

00:50:28.000 And I've had my opinion altered a little bit listening to comedians, but I don't like to be spoken at.

00:50:34.000 My goal is not to go out there and educate anybody.

00:50:37.000 I don't think I'm so much smarter than the audience that they need me on stage to educate them.

00:50:42.000 Sometimes you change someone's mind, sometimes you don't.

00:50:45.000 But I think it's fun to make people laugh at things that they don't agree with.

00:50:48.000 To me, that's a great challenge.

00:50:50.000 Because whenever I mention Trump, I don't, I mean, I make fun of certain parts, but I don't just go up there and kill him, you know, because to me, every comic does that.

00:50:57.000 And I don't hate him.

00:50:59.000 So I'm not going to pretend I hate him if I don't.

00:51:01.000 And it's fun to watch the Trump thing.

00:51:03.000 It was like the Bush years toward the end.

00:51:04.000 You're like, it's not even a final war.

00:51:06.000 You never want to know, like, an entire business should never have the same political opinion if the business is open. 0.98

00:51:15.000 There should be some who like him and some who don't and some who think he says good things and some who thinks what he says is crap.

00:51:20.000 I mean, there's certain guys like James Woods and other guys who are really all in with him. 0.67

00:51:25.000 With comedy, you don't see as many guys.

00:51:26.000 Like Nick DiPaolo, I mean, I know is fine with Trump.

00:51:29.000 But a lot of guys, I think even guys that like certain things he says are afraid of it.

00:51:33.000 And that's the beauty of me, is I'll never go higher than mediocrity so they can't hurt me.

00:51:38.000 What are they going to take away?

00:51:39.000 The comedy seller for me? I get paid 35 bucks there.

00:51:41.000 Well, yeah, exactly. And you're not afraid to go low.

00:51:44.000 Wouldn't they go high? Go low. Absolutely.

00:51:46.000 Believe me, I will undercut all the other comedians.

00:51:49.000 Okay, so I have your Twitter.

00:51:51.000 Where's the website, though, for people to go and check out your tour for the future dates?

00:51:55.000 JimNorton.com. JimNorton.com.

00:51:58.000 JimNorton.com. He is going to be...

00:52:00.000 I have Jordan Peterson up in front of me.

00:52:02.000 At Jim Norton. Because some people have the underscore and it throws you off.

00:52:04.000 And then someone recently had the dash.

00:52:06.000 It's awful. Why would you have a dash in 2018 and not use an underscore?

00:52:09.000 JimNorton.com is going to be at the DC Improv.

00:52:11.000 And we'll have you back soon, brother.

00:52:12.000 Have a good time with these shows. Don't collapse.

00:52:14.000 Don't collapse. All right, buddy. Thanks a lot.

00:52:15.000 Yeah, feel better now. March 22nd.

00:52:25.000 SMU. Dallas, Texas.

00:52:30.000 Prepares. For the greatest show on earth.

00:52:35.000 I'm free!

00:52:38.000 Get it.

00:52:41.000 I'm free falling!

00:52:45.000 What? Can I come inside, guys?

00:52:48.000 Beep beep? No, go away!

00:52:51.000 But it's raining out here.

00:52:52.000 Beep. Does our AppleCare cover that?

00:52:58.000 No, no, it covers...

00:52:59.000 Manufacture of defects doesn't cover, like, fat negligence.

00:53:02.000 So do you think we should, maybe, should I... Just be safe.

00:53:08.000 And I'm free!

00:53:14.000 I'm free!

00:53:15.000 I'm free falling!

00:53:17.000 Free!

00:53:21.000 I'm free falling!

00:53:40.000 🎵🎵🎵 you

00:54:09.000 I found out what the key is there. The key is the webbing.

00:54:13.000 Oh, really? I learned this as a kid.

00:54:14.000 That's how you get out. No one taught me how to swim.

00:54:17.000 But I learned my methods through observing ducks.

00:54:20.000 Ducks. The child, and I was going, I'm not getting anywhere.

00:54:22.000 Thank you, Sesame Street, for that. And I looked and I said, wait, there seems to be webbing.

00:54:27.000 Did that? Nah, I just fixed the riptide problem. 0.57

00:54:31.000 Also, mallards mate for life.

00:54:32.000 Really? So long as they're not first cousins.

00:54:36.000 Uh... Jim Norton, Ben Shapiro, thank you so much.

00:54:40.000 And by the way, we were going to be broadcasting live from South by Southwest next week.

00:54:44.000 They kicked us out. They revoked our passes.

00:54:47.000 Now, me and Nake Jared, when we But we won't be broadcasting live.

00:54:53.000 So it's going to be a normal show next Thursday, and then March 22nd, live from SMU, the week after that, Illinois, live broadcasting on campus.

00:54:58.000 Who knows what could happen? Nobody knows.

00:55:00.000 A little bit different for the last segment today.

00:55:03.000 You just saw her dancing.

00:55:05.000 She has been writing at Loud Earth Crowder now for the last, I want to say, eight months to a year.

00:55:12.000 You know her, Nicole Cooper.

00:55:14.000 Nicole, how are you? Doing well.

00:55:17.000 Thanks, Stephen. Thank you for being on the show.

00:55:19.000 Now, listen, for people who don't know, this is actually, we wanted to have her on because this is going to be her last day at writing at Lotto's Crowder.

00:55:24.000 Today is her last day, and we wanted to see her off.

00:55:27.000 Nicole, how long have you been writing at the website?

00:55:30.000 Almost a year now.

00:55:31.000 Yeah, coming up on a year.

00:55:32.000 Okay, almost a year. That's right.

00:55:34.000 And you came to us through the Golden Ticket submissions for people who don't remember.

00:55:40.000 Yeah, that was totally kind of...

00:55:43.000 Just by chance, I was on y'all's website one day, saw the jobs tab, and the rest is history.

00:55:49.000 The rest is history.

00:55:51.000 Not so much. I mean, it still lives on forever in an archive.

00:55:54.000 It's true. I guess that technically is history.

00:55:55.000 It's digital history. And for people asking, no, I did not give you the boot.

00:56:00.000 We are all actually very hard.

00:56:03.000 You're fired. Want to come on the show?

00:56:04.000 You're fired. Want to come on the show?

00:56:06.000 Come on, put a smile on for her. 0.99

00:56:08.000 How about a smile, Apuzikanta?

00:56:10.000 No, we're actually really sad that you're leaving us.

00:56:12.000 First off, it's going to be hard to replace.

00:56:14.000 It took us a long time with the golden tickets.

00:56:16.000 Hundreds of submissions. Was totally blind, by the way.

00:56:19.000 And you just happened to be the best person who applied.

00:56:22.000 But you are leaving us.

00:56:24.000 And I don't want to steal your thunder.

00:56:27.000 I'm on a pain pill today, too.

00:56:29.000 So listen, it's OK. At this point, if anyone's paying attention, there's some buy-in.

00:56:33.000 They know who you are. Can you explain to them why it is that you're leaving us at this point so soon?

00:56:40.000 Yeah, yeah. So I'm actually really sick.

00:56:43.000 That's why I'm laying on a pillow instead of in a proper office chair.

00:56:47.000 I thought it was a style thing.

00:56:49.000 People were using pillows at that time.

00:56:50.000 Yeah, just lounging.

00:56:52.000 Yeah, exactly. Well, you look fine.

00:56:55.000 You still look great on the sky, better than me.

00:56:57.000 Well, thank you. Yeah. Sorry, continue.

00:56:58.000 Well, whatever. So yeah, I'm really sick.

00:57:02.000 I have a late stage Lyme disease.

00:57:05.000 Borrelia burgdorferi is the technical term.

00:57:09.000 And it's just been getting worse and worse.

00:57:12.000 And I was just like, I need to leave Lauder with Crowder before my writing starts being affected.

00:57:19.000 Because I've been really, really sick before.

00:57:23.000 I kind of bounced back, but I'm kind of back on the downhill.

00:57:28.000 So... Like I know my body and I know You know, when I'm going to get worse.

00:57:33.000 And I was just like, I need to just step back, you know, because you guys deserve the best people to be working with you.

00:57:38.000 And I know that I can't be performing at my best.

00:57:41.000 Well, you deserve some rest and recovery time.

00:57:43.000 And I was trying to read up on this.

00:57:46.000 Because I know everyone knows Lyme disease and ticks.

00:57:49.000 I wasn't really familiar with this.

00:57:51.000 And honestly, I didn't know that you were, especially going on campus, I don't want to reveal anything, but wheelchair-bound, that was kind of a surprise.

00:57:57.000 When Courtney told me that a while back, I didn't even know. 0.92

00:58:00.000 And I felt like a real ass for not knowing. 0.90

00:58:01.000 I should have asked. What is this exactly? 0.96

00:58:05.000 Because most people are not familiar with it.

00:58:07.000 Yeah, so everyone's, you know, familiar with acute Lyme disease, as you said.

00:58:11.000 It's something that you can get from a tick bite.

00:58:13.000 Also, mosquitoes and spiders can carry it. 0.73

00:58:16.000 However, if you're not treated right away after you get bitten and infected, it can turn into chronic Lyme or late-stage Lyme.

00:58:25.000 And that basically is just these little bacteria.

00:58:29.000 They're spiral shaped and they can get into anywhere in your body.

00:58:33.000 And so they love the nervous system and attacking the nervous system.

00:58:37.000 So mine got into my brain and my spinal fluid.

00:58:40.000 And so I have problems with seizures, cognitive difficulties, heart My difficulties just started having thyroid stuff.

00:58:50.000 It's affecting my blood counts now.

00:58:52.000 So it can really just wreak havoc on your whole body.

00:58:55.000 I have friends who are on feeding tubes.

00:58:57.000 I know you mentioned there's some controversy, I guess, surrounding the idea.

00:59:00.000 Some people say it doesn't exist.

00:59:03.000 And again, I don't know anything about anything when it comes to Lyme.

00:59:05.000 I got checked. I'm like, okay, no tick.

00:59:07.000 I'm good. What's the controversy with the Lyme?

00:59:10.000 So the controversy is...

00:59:14.000 Well, first of all, as you said, a lot of doctors and people don't believe in Lyme.

00:59:19.000 They don't think it's a thing just because there hasn't been a lot of research up until now.

00:59:24.000 There's a lot of stuff coming out of Johns Hopkins, Duke University and Stanford where they're finally saying, hey, this is a real thing.

00:59:32.000 These patients need help and these patients need treatment.

00:59:36.000 The biggest debate right now, however, is what the best way to treat Lyme patients is.

00:59:43.000 Antibiotics have always been the way to go but it can be really invasive.

00:59:48.000 Uh, because a lot of patients have to go on, uh, IV antibiotics.

00:59:52.000 Well, I think, I think you kind of, people throw the baby out with the bathwater.

00:59:54.000 Like we, Naki, Jared and I talked about that.

00:59:56.000 It was colitis. Everyone says, you know, I have colitis.

00:59:58.000 I have Crohn's and they blame mirth.

00:59:59.000 They blamed gluten. Like, well, gluten, gluten is a thing.

01:00:02.000 And so it just sort of became, you know, naturopaths.

01:00:04.000 Oh, okay. Avoid gluten.

01:00:05.000 And so people go, I feel lethargic.

01:00:07.000 Oh, chronic Lyme. So some of that gets tossed into the umbrella.

01:00:11.000 Uh, but actual neurological, obviously with you, it's, it's, it's not, I feel kind of bloated.

01:00:15.000 You've had the blood work and, uh, And been on antibiotics for a while, I know.

01:00:19.000 Yeah, most definitely.

01:00:21.000 And so the standard Lyme test that's given today for acute Lyme disease, it's not accurate.

01:00:27.000 It's only 60% accurate.

01:00:30.000 The most recent study has shown.

01:00:32.000 And so there's new tests that have been developed and they picked up on mine from those new tests, new tests, but it took them eight years to find.

01:00:41.000 Hey, listen, don't worry about the word flip.

01:00:43.000 You're doing better than me right now.

01:00:44.000 Thanks to Hopper's Tramadol.

01:00:46.000 They should be a sponsor right now.

01:00:47.000 I've talked about this. By the way, exact same pills as the vet described to me.

01:00:51.000 Also, the vet is also a liar.

01:00:53.000 You said Tramadol? 0.93

01:00:55.000 Described? There we go.

01:00:57.000 Look. I don't have Lyme.

01:00:58.000 I'm just a moron. By the way, people, and the reason I wanted to bring you on was because I know it's hard to get in to see specialists and neurologists and people who might know those fields. 0.69

01:01:07.000 Put it this way. With the people out there, wherever they line up on Lyme disease or chronic Lyme disease or this idea or not, you know, you have these neurological issues.

01:01:13.000 I know you need help, and I know that it's been tough.

01:01:16.000 You know, there's a long waiting line with specialists.

01:01:18.000 So please, anyone out there, if you can help her, email nicole at loudroscreditor.com.

01:01:22.000 That's Nicole with an H, right?

01:01:24.000 Nicole with an H. And I wanted to bring you on, too, Nicole, because we've talked about this.

01:01:30.000 There are very, very few layoffs in this company.

01:01:34.000 And honestly, the only reason the layoffs that have happened have ever happened is because it affected everybody else on the team.

01:01:39.000 And you came to us blind with a golden ticket application, and we've always kind of done these sort of employee assessments.

01:01:47.000 And Courtney and Jared and I, and specifically Courtney and the website, whenever it came to you, we were like, well, she's particularly got a great attitude.

01:01:54.000 Mm-hmm. Such a positive attitude, such a can-do attitude, and you're a student, and you've always been so grateful, and we've been grateful to you, and you've been so consistent, and to the point where I honestly didn't know that your health was as bad as it was, because people wouldn't know it to communicate with you, and you've helped a lot of other people, so I wanted to just do what we can to get you some help here.

01:02:17.000 You've been great to us. Thank you so much, Steven.

01:02:21.000 I've enjoyed working here so much.

01:02:23.000 It is so hard for me to walk away.

01:02:24.000 You guys are amazing.

01:02:26.000 You work so hard and just produce amazing material.

01:02:29.000 So it's an honor to have worked here.

01:02:31.000 Well, it's been a pleasure for us to have you work for us.

01:02:36.000 And, of course, if you recover, you always have a welcome spot to come back.

01:02:40.000 And, you know, I think it's important for people to see out there.

01:02:41.000 A lot of people, they just think, you know, we've talked about this.

01:02:44.000 People who work for me are the first people I think of when I get up, often the last people before I go to sleep, outside of my wife.

01:02:48.000 Constantly we've been talking about this.

01:02:50.000 Constantly we've been thinking about these things.

01:02:51.000 And constantly we want to make sure that people are taken care of.

01:02:54.000 That's why we have a very closely knit team.

01:02:55.000 Now we could just hire day raiders like other companies do and pay them the lowest amount to do clickbait, which we've seen a lot of sites fall by the wayside.

01:03:02.000 But I think a big part of it is people like Courtney and Casey and Brodigan and Corey and yourself and of course Jared and everyone who works here.

01:03:08.000 I think people can sense a difference.

01:03:10.000 And people can sense a difference. A big part of these sweepstakes and a big reason you went through is, like I said, there's an attitude in the way you treat other people, the way you work with other people.

01:03:19.000 It's been a real blessing to a lot of us.

01:03:21.000 And, you know, we're really sad to see you go.

01:03:24.000 But I really hope that someone out there hearing this can give you a hand.

01:03:28.000 And hopefully some people also learn. Listen, not all employers, employees, it's not the Scrooge McDuck.

01:03:32.000 No. We actually care.

01:03:35.000 I certainly care. Sometimes it's tough.

01:03:39.000 Sometimes I feel too deeply.

01:03:41.000 But in this case, I'm all torn up about it.

01:03:46.000 I'm going to miss you. I'm going to miss you guys too.

01:03:49.000 A lot. Well, listen, we're always a phone call and a Skype away.

01:03:54.000 All right. And, you know, hopefully you get some...

01:03:56.000 That's Nicole with an H. Nicole at lottowithcreditor.com.

01:04:00.000 We're going to see you guys next week.

01:04:02.000 Please keep Nicole in your thoughts and prayers and send her any help or anyone who you think might be able to help.

01:04:07.000 Nicole, we love you genuinely.

01:04:09.000 I love you. Thank you.

01:04:10.000 You better love her, not care. Say it.

01:04:12.000 Be a man.

01:04:14.000 Love you, Sarah. Love you, Nicole.

01:04:16.000 And we'll certainly be in touch talking with you.

01:04:18.000 And everyone else, you want to play us out here, Nicole?

01:04:21.000 Tell them we're going to see them next week. Oh, yeah.

01:04:23.000 Thank you all for joining us tonight, and we'll see you next week.

Louder with Crowder - March 09, 2018

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