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00:01:45.000 It's June, which marks Louder With Crowder's third annual Cultural Appropriation Month, where we appreciate and appropriate all the great cultures that this world has to offer.

00:01:56.000 This week, we whisk you away to the ancient and reigning world champions in violations of human rights undefeated...

00:02:05.000 EGYPT!

00:02:10.000 It's like a pointer but very unwieldy.

00:02:18.000 Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

00:02:22.000 Hopper's fine.

00:02:24.000 Hopper's fine.

00:02:25.000 A to the death took all your first parts.

00:02:27.000 Mike's totally fine.

00:02:28.000 He's not even a person.

00:02:29.000 Mike's fine, too.

00:02:31.000 He's just sleepy.

00:02:32.000 Yeah.

00:02:33.000 Very sleepy.

00:02:33.000 Couldn't think about a whole lot for Egypt.

00:02:35.000 Before we get to anything else, some fun Egypt facts.

00:02:37.000 Of course, this is the second to last week in Cultural Appropriation Month.

00:02:40.000 You send in, you win a costume contest every single week, whoever has the best costume.

00:02:44.000 Before we get to anything, Egypt facts.

00:02:45.000 Number one, parasites actually caused men to urinate blood.

00:02:48.000 They were so common that the Egyptians thought that men had menstrual cycles.

00:02:52.000 That is a true fact.

00:02:54.000 Number two, the second, always kept several naked slaves nearby whose bodies were smeared in honey in order to keep the flies from getting too close to him. 1.00

00:03:02.000 So, ladies, man. 0.99

00:03:04.000 Chivalry is not dead.

00:03:05.000 Also, women aren't granted citizenship. 1.00

00:03:07.000 At all.

00:03:08.000 Oh, wow.

00:03:08.000 That's disappointing.

00:03:09.000 You can beat the hell out of them.

00:03:10.000 So, we have great guest, we have Ben Shapiro on the show today.

00:03:13.000 We have Anthony Kumiya on the show today, whom I'm happy to have back, and we have Richard Painter on the show today, and the coach of the South Korean soccer team, whose name escapes me because I can't pronounce it.

00:03:24.000 Yeah, Yong. 0.83

00:03:25.000 Producing with me in video studio as always is Jared, who is not gay. 0.97

00:03:27.000 Follow him on Twitter at notgayjared.

00:03:28.000 Meet us, crowd her with your comments, your thoughts, your photoshops, your costumes this week's I Fulfill My Legal Obligations, Jared.

00:03:36.000 Conclusion?

00:03:36.000 SOMEBODY HELP ME!

00:03:38.000 Are we good?

00:03:38.000 We're good now.

00:03:40.000 We'll fix that in post.

00:03:41.000 At G. Morgan Jr., what's the wine of the day?

00:03:44.000 Pharaoh Moans.

00:03:45.000 Pharaoh Moans.

00:03:46.000 Oh, I see.

00:03:47.000 I thought you were going to have, yeah, Manischewitz, but you actually thought of Egypt.

00:03:50.000 Are those boils on your face, or is that like zit cream?

00:03:52.000 I just had a rough day.

00:03:53.000 Zit cream boils.

00:03:54.000 You look like Linus if he did an ad for Clearasil.

00:03:58.000 Thank you.

00:03:59.000 I appreciate that.

00:04:00.000 I think it's supposed to be some kind of skin disease.

00:04:02.000 Sven Computer, are you ready with the overlays?

00:04:04.000 I'm ready with the overlays, BB.

00:04:05.000 I'm a little sad the Angel of Death killed both my babies, but they gave me the opportunity to learn how to juggle, so that's good.

00:04:11.000 At least they were designed for a purpose.

00:04:13.000 Terrible start.

00:04:14.000 I'm so sad.

00:04:16.000 What would cheer me up, though, is if people find their way to my social media and follow me at Sven Computer.

00:04:21.000 See what happened there?

00:04:23.000 Question of the day before we get to any of the topics.

00:04:25.000 Listen, with the situation with the deportation of the families at the border and Trump being blamed for it, and Facebook and Twitter, the outrage of politicians, are we supposed to assume that nobody now has Google anymore to actually know from where this policy stems?

00:04:36.000 We'll talk about this with Ben Shapiro.

00:04:37.000 We'll give you a brief timeline after this.

00:04:40.000 I am amazed.

00:04:41.000 Tell me, I want to hear from you guys what you think.

00:04:43.000 A lot of people started off the week going, I can't believe President Donald Trump did this, and then said, oh, this has effectively been in effect since 97.

00:04:49.000 What's happened?

00:04:50.000 These pictures are from 2014.

00:04:51.000 What's going on?

00:04:52.000 Also, second question, do all Asians look alike?

00:04:54.000 I contend that not all, but most.

00:04:56.000 Yep.

00:04:57.000 The vast majority.

00:04:58.000 We actually covered a story that said that.

00:04:59.000 I'll talk to you about it in a minute.

00:05:00.000 Yeah, we're going to talk to you about it in a minute.

00:05:02.000 It's probably the funniest story I've seen all week, aside from Dumpster Fire.

00:05:05.000 So, to start off with a little good news.

00:05:07.000 A lot of people say sometimes it's a little bit dark when you start the show, so a sliver of light.

00:05:10.000 Today, Peter Fonda was ripped from his Beverly Hills home and shipped to a timeshare with Kevin Spacey.

00:05:15.000 So that's a good way to start the day.

00:05:17.000 There we go.

00:05:19.000 Spacey looks a little too happy there.

00:05:20.000 Spacey's probably disappointed.

00:05:21.000 It's not good for him.

00:05:23.000 Well, I think at a certain point you're so old that you're young again.

00:05:26.000 Oh, that's true.

00:05:27.000 It's like high-waisted jeans.

00:05:28.000 You're right.

00:05:29.000 You start to lose your eyesight.

00:05:30.000 Only with consent.

00:05:33.000 So this video's gone viral this week.

00:05:34.000 Democratic U.S.

00:05:35.000 Senate-it.

00:05:38.000 This is really hard to speak, guys.

00:05:39.000 I'm gonna do this for a little bit.

00:05:41.000 I can't pronounce my words.

00:05:42.000 Democratic U.S.

00:05:46.000 Senate.

00:05:46.000 A candidate for the U.S.

00:05:48.000 Senate who's a Democrat.

00:05:50.000 Minnesota. 1.00

00:05:51.000 Son of a bitch! 1.00

00:05:52.000 Say my name! 1.00

00:05:54.000 Say my name! 0.96

00:05:55.000 It's not that one.

00:05:56.000 Minnesota.

00:05:57.000 This is not a joke.

00:05:59.000 Richard Painter.

00:06:00.000 This was his ad.

00:06:00.000 In its entirety.

00:06:02.000 Take a look.

00:06:04.000 Some people see a dumpster fire and do nothing but watch the spectacle.

00:06:09.000 Some are too scared to face the danger, or they think it will benefit them if they just let it keep on burning.

00:06:16.000 Others shrug and say, oh, all this talk of a dumpster fire, it's just fake news.

00:06:23.000 There is an inferno raging in Washington.

00:06:27.000 But here in the land of 10,000 lakes, we know how to put out a fire.

00:06:34.000 I am Richard Pater, and I approve of this message.

00:06:37.000 So, before you get mad at us for smearing him, we saw- he has not had a stroke.

00:06:43.000 He has not had- no.

00:06:44.000 No, he's definitely not had a stroke.

00:06:46.000 There was an interview where he said he had.

00:06:47.000 He may have, but he personally denied it.

00:06:48.000 He personally denied it.

00:06:50.000 Okay, clear.

00:06:51.000 That's what the article said.

00:06:52.000 That's what he said in the interview.

00:06:53.000 He said it.

00:06:54.000 I wasn't going to bring it up.

00:06:55.000 I wasn't going to bring it up. 0.98

00:06:57.000 So we can say he looks like a retarded Clint Eastwood screwed a retarded Ron Perlman, then had a stroke. 1.00

00:07:02.000 Yes, exactly. 1.00

00:07:04.000 I'm trying to think of... Retards in the Senate. 1.00

00:07:07.000 It's time. 0.97

00:07:07.000 I've done the math. 0.97

00:07:08.000 You are definitely going out.

00:07:08.000 By the way, as bad as that ad is, apparently the taping of the ad was actually way worse.

00:07:14.000 And you know we got our hands on exclusive footage.

00:07:15.000 We have a lot of plants here at Lighthouse Crowder, and we actually have some reels, some B-roll, some outtakes, some exclusive footage from that ad.

00:07:24.000 Some people see a dumpster fire and do nothing but watch the spectacle.

00:07:28.000 Some are too scared to face record low unemployment, record high job participation, a booming stock market, energy independence.

00:07:36.000 You'd think they'd never seen a dumpster fire!

00:07:38.000 Cut! 1.00

00:07:39.000 Three out of four major American cities are plagued by dumpster fires.

00:07:43.000 Cut! 1.00

00:07:44.000 Only you can prevent dumpster fires by voting for me.

00:07:48.000 Dumpster fire!

00:07:49.000 So dumpster fire is a term that all the kids are using now.

00:07:53.000 It's a term like Yeah, that's the one.

00:07:55.000 Okay, it's cool dirt, yeah.

00:07:56.000 Yeah, it's really cool. 0.77

00:07:57.000 F***ing hard to see. 0.89

00:07:58.000 I took a dump in the fire! 0.98

00:08:00.000 No! 0.97

00:08:01.000 Donald Trump took a dump in the fire! 1.00

00:08:05.000 Dumpster fire! 0.99

00:08:06.000 I didn't start the fire!

00:08:08.000 No.

00:08:09.000 It was always burning when Trump started turning!

00:08:12.000 Cut! 1.00

00:08:13.000 Cut! 1.00

00:08:13.000 Dumpster fire. 1.00

00:08:14.000 Can we say garbage fire?

00:08:16.000 It's easier for me to see than dumpster fire.

00:08:19.000 No, no, dumpster fire is a colloquialism, so yeah, just...

00:08:23.000 I can't say that either.

00:08:29.000 Here in the land of a thousand lakes.

00:08:40.000 Here in the land of a million lakes.

00:08:42.000 We have a lot of lakes here in Minnesota.

00:08:45.000 At least we used to.

00:08:47.000 Before all the dumpster fires.

00:08:49.000 Is it as simple as that America?

00:08:52.000 I think so. 0.83

00:08:53.000 When you think Richard Painter, think dumpster fire!

00:08:58.000 Richard Painter for U.S.

00:08:59.000 Senate.

00:08:59.000 Because only he can prevent dumpster fires!

00:09:04.000 That's why I always change my mind.

00:09:08.000 I've talked about this.

00:09:08.000 I am the least objective person at watching anything that we do that isn't character driven.

00:09:12.000 I have to trust you guys.

00:09:13.000 I'm like, listen, I can't watch myself.

00:09:15.000 Please let me know how this turns out.

00:09:17.000 He had no one around him to say, this is a disaster.

00:09:21.000 This is a dumpster fire.

00:09:22.000 They just got done SNL and they just got done capitalizing on embarrassing conservative ads.

00:09:27.000 And then their own team goes and they do that.

00:09:30.000 The leftist blogs just never show the video.

00:09:32.000 They just put on quotes.

00:09:33.000 Yeah, they do.

00:09:34.000 It's only in quotes.

00:09:35.000 They don't want to show you.

00:09:36.000 Yeah, it's just quotes and screenshots.

00:09:39.000 Because they've cast the film before they've had a live read.

00:09:44.000 Speaking of flaming, the BBC has a new report on the Arab world's only gay radio station.

00:09:49.000 The station plays music and issues are discussed in depth, but LGBTQ contributors LGBT. They haven't added the queue

00:09:55.000 Wow a little on the They don't identify themselves as sexually active on air 0.96

00:10:01.000 sounds like a trap I am the only gay radio station! 0.84

00:10:06.000 Everyone sign up here, get a guestbook, and you'll never see it again. 0.95

00:10:11.000 Come to the roof.

00:10:11.000 No, really, if you actually listen to the radio, it's just gay karaoke with the lyrics changed.

00:10:16.000 They say we gay, that it's not alright, they want us dead to burn us all alive. 0.99

00:10:23.000 I don't care if all that's true, Cause you do me and baby I beg you. 1.00

00:10:30.000 GIFT I am so GIFT 0.98

00:10:37.000 you We are so gay. 0.99

00:10:42.000 Like Supergay. 1.00

00:10:45.000 Well, I'll just have to take your word for it, because I'm not tuning in.

00:10:47.000 I'm not falling for it.

00:10:49.000 Not getting my hands on it.

00:10:50.000 We're on iHeartRadio!

00:10:51.000 I don't care.

00:10:52.000 They've gayed everything now. 1.00

00:10:53.000 I don't want none of your mailings.

00:10:55.000 Somebody else come in the bagels.

00:10:57.000 By the way, pooping is dangerous and creates the same pain as childbirth for sloths.

00:11:01.000 I knew it.

00:11:02.000 This was just discovered.

00:11:04.000 It says sloths only release their bobbles once a week.

00:11:07.000 The act of pooping occurs in the forest floor, which can be a dangerous place for sloths as predators lurk there.

00:11:13.000 And matters are made even worse when they read Sloth's Digest.

00:11:20.000 About half of the sloth fatalities occur when they are doing this ritual.

00:11:25.000 I don't know how they refer to it as a ritual. 0.98

00:11:27.000 I just thought, I don't know, like, this just goes to tell that the endangered species list is bullshit. 0.98

00:11:32.000 It is. 1.00

00:11:33.000 It's complete and utter crap. 1.00

00:11:36.000 If we stopped hunt, I don't know if anyone's hunting sloths, but if we stopped all of it tomorrow, half of them would still die. 0.99

00:11:42.000 From pooping.

00:11:43.000 50% chance of dying they say at the toilet, or actually 100% if you're famed rock star Sloth.

00:11:48.000 Sloth Presley.

00:11:49.000 Or Elvis Slothly, to the uninitiated.

00:11:54.000 He's still alive.

00:11:55.000 But unlike with childbirth, you don't have to hear the sloth complain about constipation for nine months. 1.00

00:11:59.000 Oh! 0.60

00:11:59.000 Ooh, it's true, though. 0.60

00:12:00.000 It is true.

00:12:01.000 It is true.

00:12:02.000 Lots of constipation that I read about.

00:12:04.000 By the way, the annual Pony Festival just happened.

00:12:09.000 It's not what you think.

00:12:10.000 Real quick.

00:12:11.000 Where people compete in events and classes just the same as real horses do.

00:12:19.000 Not just the same.

00:12:21.000 This is Brand X. These events are very competitive.

00:12:24.000 Just like a regular horse show event, we end up with some clashes and wrecks.

00:12:30.000 People go down over the jumps.

00:12:36.000 You failed at a pony festival, sir.

00:12:39.000 This is just, that's what, when I watched that clip, look, you failed at a human, meaning, okay, let me put this into context.

00:12:46.000 There's normal society, okay?

00:12:48.000 Superior, by the way, to pony fetishists in every way.

00:12:50.000 I'm okay saying it. 0.98

00:12:51.000 Then there's a loooong layer of sh**, including ventriloquists, social justice warriors, and Xbox News hosts, soccer players. 0.99

00:12:58.000 Then, finally, there's pony fetishists, and then there's you! 0.99

00:13:04.000 David Caridy is looking down from heaven, saying, that's kind of embarrassing.

00:13:08.000 Even Macaulay Culkin was like, what are you doing with your life?

00:13:10.000 What are you doing with your life?

00:13:13.000 This comes from the only kid Michael Jackson didn't fondle.

00:13:20.000 I think it was just a genius move.

00:13:22.000 I love how Gerald isn't saying anything today.

00:13:25.000 Completely quiet.

00:13:26.000 Well, he's grieving.

00:13:27.000 This next one's right down center plate for you.

00:13:29.000 Two people were arrested in Oklahoma City for having drunken sex in the middle of an intersection.

00:13:32.000 So that's a real thing.

00:13:33.000 Why is that down the middle of the street?

00:13:34.000 Well, nothing would sound out of the ordinary.

00:13:35.000 Until you see their mug shots.

00:13:37.000 Look at the mug shots.

00:13:41.000 The woman pleaded not guilty to charges of bestiality.

00:13:45.000 Which, by the way, in the great state of Oklahoma includes, but is not limited to, the rock eater from The NeverEnding Story.

00:13:50.000 We found that out. 0.99

00:13:54.000 When your face looks like a cliff, you know you must have a huge d*** to get laid in an intersection. 0.99

00:14:00.000 I don't care how drunk she was. 1.00

00:14:04.000 But your honor, in my defense, I was so wasted, I thought he was the nothing.

00:14:09.000 I was buzzed.

00:14:09.000 He looked like a treyou.

00:14:11.000 We made some bad decisions.

00:14:13.000 What a good movie.

00:14:14.000 I regret all the things.

00:14:15.000 Mostly living in Oklahoma though.

00:14:16.000 But I'm fortunate to have this child in my life.

00:14:18.000 Oh my gosh, giving birth is going to be painful.

00:14:20.000 It's going to be like passing the biggest kidney stone ever.

00:14:22.000 So, Dale Altman, a marijuana farmer.

00:14:26.000 Was cut off by the erupting Koloa volcano.

00:14:28.000 He refused to give up on his dream claiming that it's his main source of income and that quote, we are not stupid, we thought this out.

00:14:35.000 He says if you look at that image with the lava, there's nothing left by the way, he has no power left.

00:14:40.000 You let it out.

00:14:41.000 We're all sitting here laughing, but he actually comes from a long line of experienced narcotic creators and distributors.

00:14:46.000 Like his brother, actually, who grows opium poppies in the Tornado Valley.

00:14:49.000 Here you go.

00:14:51.000 And his uncle, who built a meth lab next to the lair of Godzilla.

00:14:53.000 So there's that.

00:14:55.000 Godzilla dies, yeah.

00:14:58.000 Einstein's 20-20 on that one.

00:14:59.000 Einstein is always 20-20, and pick better spots.

00:15:02.000 I mean, there's Walmart parking lots everywhere.

00:15:04.000 I will not leave my pod plants, even though literally molten lava has obliterated my entire existence, creating acid rain that singes the skin and air that burns your lung cavity.

00:15:12.000 But I'm not addicted.

00:15:13.000 I can quit anytime I want.

00:15:14.000 What you don't realize, David, is Big Pharma suppresses the fact that marijuana cures melted arms.

00:15:19.000 Yes, yes.

00:15:20.000 It stops lava.

00:15:21.000 It's the only non-substance.

00:15:22.000 Big Pharma created the volcano, which, by the way, doesn't exist because the Earth is flat, and it would go like this.

00:15:27.000 I've seen the video.

00:15:29.000 Either way, I'm just asking questions.

00:15:31.000 He has no house.

00:15:32.000 He's gone.

00:15:32.000 We're going to end on this?

00:15:35.000 Okay.

00:15:36.000 That's awesome.

00:15:37.000 We're going to end on he has no house.

00:15:38.000 By the way, let's just go through this real quick because really quickly we'll speak with Ben Shapiro about it.

00:15:42.000 Trump, by the way, didn't separate families.

00:15:44.000 This is a whole bunch of misdirected outrage.

00:15:47.000 Let's just do a quick timeline to clear this up, okay?

00:15:49.000 Sometimes actual journalism happens, first off.

00:15:51.000 Even at CNN.

00:15:52.000 Case in point, Brooke Baldwin called out I'm liking her more and more. 0.88

00:15:57.000 ...consul general Tammy Baldwin over the blatant hypocrisy. 0.99

00:15:59.000 Look at the clip.

00:16:00.000 So many people in this country are certainly outraged by the cages and the thermal blankets

00:16:04.000 and the facilities housing these kids.

00:16:07.000 You know, they were all there in 2014 under President Obama and my question to you, Senator Baldwin, is did you speak up against them then?

00:16:17.000 You know, on this issue that we I'm trying to... I was just... I'm liking that broad more and more.

00:16:31.000 That's a bold question, actually.

00:16:32.000 Every day, I'm not joking, in my prayers, I ask that he'll come on the show.

00:16:37.000 2018, that's a bold question?

00:16:39.000 Are you serious?

00:16:40.000 For CNN, I mean... I know, I'm just saying, come on, that's not cool.

00:16:42.000 She knew she didn't have the answer. 0.97

00:16:43.000 It takes zero balls to ask that question. 1.00

00:16:46.000 She has no balls. 1.00

00:16:48.000 Well, you didn't have to say it. 1.00

00:16:51.000 This is a dumpster fire!

00:16:53.000 So, the Florida's consent policy, by the way, it was signed into law under Clinton, okay, in 1997.

00:16:57.000 Direct quota prohibits the federal government from keeping children in immigration detention, even if they are with their parents, for more than 20 days.

00:17:02.000 Okay?

00:17:03.000 That's from the New York Times.

00:17:04.000 It's not fake news, okay, Republican, alt-right, Facebook page.

00:17:08.000 It's from the New York Times.

00:17:09.000 These are your own sources.

00:17:10.000 Yes, these are your own sources.

00:17:11.000 The Obama administration violated this policy.

00:17:13.000 Of course, they angered immigration advocates, saying you detain mothers and refuse to release—blah, blah, blah.

00:17:19.000 Okay, so this week, agencies began enforcing the immigration law with a zero-tolerance policy.

00:17:22.000 There's been an increase, yes, in parents being detained, of course, and children being released into these what they call tender care facilities.

00:17:27.000 I know, I'm not a big fan of the name either.

00:17:29.000 It's amazing what happens with statistics when you go from 0% enforcement to 100%.

00:17:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:34.000 Not even 100%.

00:17:35.000 If you go from 0% to 1%.

00:17:38.000 To any, to any percent!

00:17:41.000 And yesterday, of course, Donald Trump signed an executive order to end all of this because you can't, you know, the polls.

00:17:47.000 By the way, the photos of children in cages, a lot of them from 2014, just so you know.

00:17:51.000 So that's the, we'll talk about more, anything else that I've missed?

00:17:56.000 I just think we've lost our ability to have rational thought with this.

00:17:58.000 This is crazy.

00:17:59.000 It's a no-win situation on both sides. 0.95

00:18:00.000 14, Obama's crazy for doing it. 0.99

00:18:02.000 Now, Trump's crazy for doing it. 0.98

00:18:03.000 It's like, you just can't win. 0.66

00:18:04.000 Can we just build a wall, please, and be done?

00:18:07.000 Do something.

00:18:08.000 Something!

00:18:10.000 Start a little soccer team on the border?

00:18:12.000 I don't know. 0.97

00:18:14.000 You want to punch them? 0.89

00:18:18.000 That is not what you misconstrued by words! 0.90

00:18:21.000 You're supposed to be the nice one, what were you saying? 0.99

00:18:23.000 What is just so stupid about this, BP, is that the executive in the Trump administration is blamed for executing the law. 0.98

00:18:29.000 I know. 0.99

00:18:29.000 So it's the legislative's job to change it, but we're acting like Trump is a god and he just decides what is being done. 0.99

00:18:37.000 Well, they did decide to enforce it.

00:18:39.000 These agencies decided to enforce it.

00:18:40.000 That's the law.

00:18:42.000 But exactly!

00:18:42.000 It is the law.

00:18:43.000 That's the issue.

00:18:44.000 Now, if you have someone who doesn't respect rule of law, it doesn't mean that the rule of law is not a thing, that it's a figment of your imagination.

00:18:49.000 And it doesn't mean that it's a human right to be a citizen of the United States.

00:18:52.000 That was the big thing we did that changed my mind to build the wall.

00:18:55.000 People said, why did you pick this?

00:18:56.000 It was like a strop.

00:18:57.000 It was awesome.

00:18:58.000 There were professors.

00:19:00.000 There was no one who had any kind of a coherent argument.

00:19:03.000 It was just, the wall's kind of mean.

00:19:04.000 So we're going to do it again and hopefully get something a little bit more substantive from people.

00:19:09.000 But it was really tough.

00:19:10.000 It was hard to pick which ones to run because no one made a really competitive argument.

00:19:15.000 No!

00:19:16.000 Nothing convincing.

00:19:17.000 We can paint some cartoons on it.

00:19:19.000 We gave you the best.

00:19:20.000 We gave you the cream of the crop.

00:19:21.000 Yeah.

00:19:22.000 What'd you get?

00:19:22.000 Backpack Man.

00:19:24.000 Alright, so another story that I think is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life.

00:19:29.000 This is a true story.

00:19:30.000 And we're going to be asking, do all Asians look alike, or is it racist to think that a lot of them do?

00:19:35.000 So South Korean coach of the soccer team, Shin Tae-yong?

00:19:40.000 Shin Tae-yong?

00:19:40.000 I don't know.

00:19:41.000 I have no idea.

00:19:42.000 Pretty good.

00:19:42.000 He admitted to pulling an old switcheroo, mixing around the jersey numbers.

00:19:47.000 recent training sessions and warm-up games because he believes Westerners find it difficult quote to distinguish

00:19:53.000 between Asian Yeah, she did it more specifically to confuse the Swedes

00:19:58.000 during practice By the way Snopes refused

00:20:04.000 refuses it to not play that one.

00:20:06.000 This is fact check true.

00:20:07.000 Yeah, zero Pinocchios.

00:20:09.000 Will, all right, I do have to be careful with this.

00:20:12.000 Maybe I'm going to pull it back a little bit.

00:20:13.000 So here to comment, actually, on the controversy now is South Korean soccer coach, I think we have him, right?

00:20:18.000 Shin Tae-hyung, thanks for being here.

00:20:20.000 Thanks for having me.

00:20:21.000 Me so happy.

00:20:22.000 Yeah, there's no way this is going to go well.

00:20:23.000 So, Mr. Young, explain to us why you're at the center right now of this controversy, if you can.

00:20:28.000 Ah, people have no sense of humor no more.

00:20:30.000 During practice, I had my players switch jerseys around.

00:20:32.000 Just play, no danger.

00:20:34.000 Okay, right.

00:20:35.000 So you had players exchange jerseys, but why?

00:20:37.000 I do it to mess with the Swedes. 1.00

00:20:39.000 Just a little joke so the bastards mix up players. 1.00

00:20:42.000 No danger. 0.99

00:20:43.000 So you thought they wouldn't be able to tell your players apart if they switched jerseys?

00:20:47.000 You tell them apart?

00:20:50.000 Well, I...

00:20:51.000 See, that's my point! 0.98

00:20:53.000 If you can't, it's certainly not some filthy Swede. 0.99

00:20:55.000 Just playing on white guilt. 0.99

00:20:56.000 Joke!

00:20:57.000 No danger!

00:20:57.000 I don't think anyone's insinuating danger here.

00:21:00.000 Listen, listen.

00:21:00.000 White people are afraid now to say all Asians look alike, but let me let you in on a secret.

00:21:04.000 Listen.

00:21:05.000 We all look alike!

00:21:06.000 No, I don't think.

00:21:07.000 I don't think that's true.

00:21:08.000 Okay, let me show you.

00:21:09.000 Let me show you.

00:21:09.000 If you were to take our Ford, some young man, and describe him to a police sketch artist, what would you say?

00:21:15.000 I don't know.

00:21:16.000 Black hair.

00:21:18.000 Brown eyes.

00:21:19.000 Relatively short.

00:21:22.000 Oval face.

00:21:22.000 Yeah, okay, okay. Now, if you look at Hwang Young Hee Chan, our striker, how do you describe him to police?

00:21:29.000 How you, what would you say?

00:21:31.000 Black hair, brown eyes, relatively.

00:21:35.000 And if you took our midfielder, Kim Sung Young player, he knocked up whole knickers door. How you describe him?

00:21:40.000 Probably black hair, brown eyes, and relatively. 1.00

00:21:44.000 You racist son of a bitch! 1.00

00:21:46.000 No, listen, here's the thing, I didn't mean... No, I'm joking. 1.00

00:21:48.000 I'm just joking.

00:21:49.000 No danger.

00:21:49.000 Half the time I can't tell my own kids apart, Steven.

00:21:51.000 I have to look at their test scores.

00:21:53.000 Really?

00:21:54.000 Yes, I don't beat the wrong one with the violin rock.

00:21:57.000 Wait, what?

00:21:59.000 See, here's my point. 1.00

00:22:00.000 If the World Cup, the stupid cow of the Swedes can't even tell South Korea's most famous successful soccer players when it comes to the Chinaman running your local bodegas, you don't got a snowball's chance in hell, Steven. 0.99

00:22:11.000 I'm just very uncomfortable with all of this. 0.99

00:22:13.000 I don't think that this is going very well. 0.92

00:22:14.000 Oh, you whites are so uptight. 1.00

00:22:16.000 It's just a joke. 1.00

00:22:17.000 You squirm like little white girl. 1.00

00:22:18.000 Why are you so uncomfortable? 0.91

00:22:20.000 What you're expressing here, frankly, it sounds a little racist.

00:22:23.000 Even for this show, I would say, Oh, it's racist.

00:22:27.000 I'm so sorry.

00:22:28.000 I'm so sorry.

00:22:28.000 I didn't know it was racist, but let me tell you.

00:22:30.000 Did it work?

00:22:33.000 Did it work?

00:22:35.000 It actually does seem to have worked, according to the article.

00:22:38.000 Oh dear!

00:22:39.000 So racist!

00:22:39.000 It worked!

00:22:40.000 Also, I'm not even the coach.

00:22:42.000 What's that?

00:22:43.000 Nothing, nothing.

00:22:43.000 Pointing is racist at work.

00:22:45.000 No, no, that can't be the lesson here.

00:22:46.000 You're going to have to go.

00:22:47.000 I have to prepare for Ladies World Cup and dress Kim Young-sun like a girl. 1.00

00:22:52.000 What?

00:22:52.000 Bye Stephen.

00:22:53.000 South Korean soccer coach Shin Tae-yong.

00:22:55.000 No, no more, no more.

00:22:57.000 I hope he finds one.

00:22:57.000 Go coach, go coach.

00:22:59.000 Okay, but you know what?

00:23:00.000 He opened the door for me.

00:23:01.000 I felt I had to pull back.

00:23:02.000 Now we can put our foot on the gas.

00:23:03.000 Here we go.

00:23:04.000 Here's the thing.

00:23:04.000 If it is an actual strategy, For the South Korean soccer coach to take the most famous South Koreans on Earth, by the way.

00:23:14.000 If a South Korean actor is famous, he's only famous in South Korea.

00:23:17.000 A South Korean soccer player is probably the closest thing to an international celebrity that exists from South Korea, right?

00:23:21.000 Probably, yeah.

00:23:22.000 Unless you work for Samsung.

00:23:26.000 So the most famous South Koreans on Earth, all they had to do was switch the numbers.

00:23:33.000 And their chief opposition, the Swedes, watching them practice, could not tell the difference!

00:23:41.000 That was all it took!

00:23:43.000 Was a jersey swap, and you know they didn't even need to change sizes!

00:23:46.000 There was no tailoring going on!

00:23:48.000 Not even a little bit.

00:23:49.000 One size fits every Asian. 1.00

00:23:51.000 He really does kick the door open.

00:23:52.000 People are going to get mad, but here's the truth.

00:23:55.000 I think we need to delineate between Racism, which is hate, which is believing that someone is inferior because of their race, and this faux colorblindness, acting as though it's somehow virtuous to not acknowledge the differences between races.

00:24:12.000 Doesn't mean we make up! 0.94

00:24:14.000 Differences between you.

00:24:16.000 What?

00:24:17.000 I'm trying to think of how to tread.

00:24:19.000 I'm trying to pick my words carefully, but I'm not.

00:24:22.000 So what I was going to say is we actually covered this on Morning Grinders, may it rest in peace.

00:24:27.000 There was an F to a cell phone.

00:24:28.000 They were doing the facial recognition feature for the iPhone.

00:24:31.000 Yeah.

00:24:31.000 And there was two Asian ladies and it couldn't decipher.

00:24:33.000 One lady was able to open it every time. 1.00

00:24:35.000 They took it back three times.

00:24:36.000 Right.

00:24:36.000 It's scientific proof.

00:24:37.000 Well, you know, it's already documented, actually, that most people have difficulty differentiating faces from other races.

00:24:42.000 And it's not just white people.

00:24:43.000 It's called other race or the cross-race effect.

00:24:45.000 Yeah.

00:24:45.000 There's an actual psychological... They've studied this pretty... I think you brought up the overlay, right?

00:24:50.000 Yeah.

00:24:50.000 It's from Psychology Today.

00:24:51.000 But that'll be turned into hate speech tomorrow.

00:24:55.000 Well, basically, no matter what race you're talking about, if you're a member of one race, you'll have an easier job deciding who looks different, right?

00:25:06.000 But yeah, that's the same for Asians and Blacks and everyone, and pretty much it also said in one of the studies that it has nothing to do with racism or preconceived notions.

00:25:14.000 I think that's a speech.

00:25:15.000 So, by the way, in studies on the cross-race effect, some have noted that participants had the most difficulty telling surprised Asian faces apart.

00:25:21.000 So the quote is, in particular, the most mistakes happen to take in the face of a male Chinese 68%, Indian 58%, female Indian, and then female Chinese. 0.51

00:25:30.000 That's a walk-away win.

00:25:31.000 Here's the honest trend.

00:25:33.000 There's just very little variance between people within those races.

00:25:38.000 It's just a fact.

00:25:40.000 Physical appearance is very little variance.

00:25:41.000 Everyone here, right, there's a foot of height difference between you and Sven Computer, almost.

00:25:48.000 Uh, and then there's different eye colors, different hair on all, everyone here.

00:25:52.000 Different facial hair abilities.

00:25:53.000 Different body types.

00:25:54.000 I can't do none.

00:25:54.000 Different skin tone.

00:25:55.000 You can't go in the sun.

00:25:57.000 Nope.

00:25:57.000 I can.

00:25:58.000 Sven Computer probably can't just because Angela Merkel won't allow him to.

00:26:01.000 I'm not saying all Asians look alike, but there is statistically less variation.

00:26:05.000 And by the way, you can also say the same thing, not just about Asians.

00:26:07.000 This is, again, why it's so important.

00:26:09.000 This isn't racism.

00:26:10.000 As the study said, it's not about hate.

00:26:11.000 It's about recognizing that people of different races look different.

00:26:15.000 You can say the same thing about Icelandic people right now.

00:26:17.000 Picture an Icelandic person in your head, okay? 0.94

00:26:18.000 What do you think?

00:26:19.000 Probably taller, more fair-skinned, blonde hair.

00:26:22.000 When you think of a Viking, think of someone from a Scandinavian country.

00:26:25.000 More likely to look similar?

00:26:25.000 Probably a socialist, right?

00:26:27.000 It's Vince thinking of the master race over here.

00:26:29.000 Easy. 0.99

00:26:29.000 Same thing if you picture a black person right now on your head. 0.99

00:26:32.000 You're probably picturing someone. 0.63

00:26:33.000 Are there black people with blue eyes?

00:26:35.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:26:35.000 You have the Hodge twins.

00:26:36.000 But most of them have black hair, brown eyes, dark skin, you know.

00:26:40.000 More proclivities, sickle cell.

00:26:41.000 That's the thing.

00:26:42.000 Disproportional rates.

00:26:43.000 Racist. 0.86

00:26:45.000 I love hearing that from a German. 0.99

00:26:47.000 They're also cooler, by the way.

00:26:49.000 Yeah, they're very much cooler.

00:26:50.000 And this is something I think that's important.

00:26:51.000 Is that racist to note that?

00:26:52.000 The story was so funny to me because when the rubber hit the road, the South Korean soccer coach They don't care at all about race at that point.

00:27:02.000 It's like the parent trap, but with a whole race. 1.00

00:27:02.000 Not at all. 1.00

00:27:04.000 Well, that's the thing, too.

00:27:06.000 Think of it like cultural appropriation.

00:27:08.000 Mexicans are the first ones to sell street tacos and sombreros. 0.81

00:27:11.000 Yeah, I know.

00:27:12.000 They're the first ones to make money off of it and be like, yep, this is what we do.

00:27:14.000 This is the Mexican.

00:27:16.000 They're at least offended by it.

00:27:18.000 My mother is French-Canadian, God bless her, and she didn't encounter many black people.

00:27:24.000 And I remember she walked up one time to someone and said, hey you did a great job, loved you playing the piano.

00:27:32.000 Well you know actually this church, you know the church was the church we both used to go to.

00:27:34.000 And here's the thing, it was a different guy and it was a different black guy.

00:27:40.000 My mom, that's a good example, she went up to compliment him and they were the same height, same build, same hair color, same eye color, and that day they were both wearing a maroon sweater.

00:27:51.000 I know she's going to be mad at me for telling this story, but come on, I couldn't blame her!

00:27:54.000 It's a compliment.

00:27:55.000 She didn't say, hey, you're the guy who stole my radio.

00:27:59.000 No, exactly.

00:27:59.000 This is not hateful.

00:28:01.000 You want to see how much cultures care about this kind of stuff?

00:28:02.000 Watch the World Cup.

00:28:03.000 I'm sorry I have to work this in.

00:28:07.000 The Egyptian fans were wearing what he is wearing, what Nage Jared's wearing. 0.97

00:28:10.000 They were wearing that.

00:28:11.000 Yeah.

00:28:12.000 Really?

00:28:12.000 They don't care!

00:28:13.000 I swear to you, there were some that had not the whole thing.

00:28:15.000 They were wearing the Yule Brenner?

00:28:17.000 They were wearing the headdress kind of thing.

00:28:19.000 I swear to you.

00:28:19.000 Look it up.

00:28:20.000 You'll have to watch soccer for it, though.

00:28:21.000 I don't believe you.

00:28:22.000 Come on.

00:28:22.000 I think you're lying.

00:28:23.000 I think you're being racist.

00:28:25.000 I don't participate in soccer.

00:28:26.000 You should.

00:28:27.000 No, I don't think it's racist.

00:28:27.000 The whole world is.

00:28:28.000 Case in point is this, exactly.

00:28:29.000 It's racist.

00:28:29.000 It's racist because of the South Korean soccer team.

00:28:32.000 This is one thing I think people have been made so afraid of having, not even necessarily of having opinions, but also of observing statistical realities.

00:28:40.000 Listen, these are the same people, by the way, who are offended if you say, On average, Asian people have higher IQs.

00:28:46.000 More of them get into college in the United States.

00:28:48.000 It's not even close.

00:28:49.000 They go, how could you say that?

00:28:50.000 By the way, we have to have an op.

00:28:52.000 We have to have a reverse quota for Asians in college. 0.58

00:28:54.000 That's a thing.

00:28:55.000 We can only take so many.

00:28:56.000 And it actually exists because of far left policy.

00:28:59.000 Right?

00:28:59.000 They get upset about that.

00:29:00.000 But then when a South Korean soccer coach does the old switcheroo, we say, hey, you can only do that because You know, they all have black hair, brown eyes, and oval faces.

00:29:08.000 All of a sudden, it's a thing.

00:29:10.000 No, we're going to say it.

00:29:11.000 We're totally fine with it.

00:29:12.000 And by the way, go watch the documentary.

00:29:14.000 We're going to have Ben Shapiro.

00:29:15.000 Go watch the documentary, Too Funny to Fail.

00:29:17.000 And there's a funny sketch in that where Stephen Colbert, Steve Carell, Dana Carvey, Robert Schmeichel, they were all talking about this.

00:29:22.000 And there's people in the crowd who were kind of these stereotypes.

00:29:25.000 One was a Saudi person.

00:29:26.000 I think one was Asian.

00:29:27.000 And Steve Carell said, today it would be career-endingly racist.

00:29:31.000 But back then, it was OK.

00:29:32.000 It was a joke. 0.89

00:29:33.000 And it wasn't at all meant to be mean-spirited, and I watched it, and maybe we'll talk about this with Anthony Camille, I was thinking, my gosh, you absolute pansy. 0.98

00:29:40.000 The fact that you consider that racist, you consider that off-limits for jokes, what is comedy going to be in five years from now, Mr. Colbert?

00:29:49.000 I can't get my head around it.

00:29:52.000 So, thank you, South Korea, for swapping the jerseys and letting this joke go on a little longer.

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00:31:12.000 When our next guest was in Egypt land, let my Shapiro go. 0.94

00:31:20.000 I think you can guess who it is.

00:31:20.000 You know his show.

00:31:21.000 You love his show at The Daily Wire.

00:31:23.000 At Ben Shapiro, as long as they allow him.

00:31:25.000 And apparently he's talking to someone else who's not me right now, but that's just Ben.

00:31:29.000 Yeah, I can't hear you, dude.

00:31:30.000 I mean, it's just, there we go.

00:31:31.000 There you go.

00:31:31.000 You can hear me?

00:31:32.000 Gotta pipe in the volume louder.

00:31:33.000 There you go.

00:31:34.000 How are you, Mr. Shapiro?

00:31:36.000 Well, I'm good.

00:31:37.000 I mean, I have to tell you, I'm a little uncomfortable.

00:31:41.000 Your prom dress is not my, my culture is not your prom dress, my friend.

00:31:46.000 No, it's not your culture, it's Egypt's culture.

00:31:49.000 You appropriated the Jews, the Jews were appropriated by Egypt, and now we're appropriating it from Egypt so that we give it back to you, the Jews! 1.00

00:32:02.000 Didn't see the Bane reference.

00:32:04.000 Bane Moses, apparently.

00:32:06.000 He was effectively the original Bane.

00:32:07.000 He liberated the Jews.

00:32:09.000 And then they complained in the desert when they had manna.

00:32:11.000 Spent my life in darkness.

00:32:15.000 I was raised on manna!

00:32:18.000 Fueled by it!

00:32:19.000 Alright, Ben, we were just talking about this before with a timeline, and I know I've been following you as well with this immigration fiasco this week as far as the media and its handling of it.

00:32:29.000 Here's the deal, like we talked about, Donald Trump makes some mistakes, but do people think that we can't Google this and see which policy this was, when it was signed, how it's being enforced?

00:32:38.000 Explain for people who don't believe me, because I don't have that much credibility today, the timeline.

00:32:44.000 So the timeline is that in 1997, the Clinton administration signed an agreement called the Flores Agreement with a bunch of advocates for illegal immigrants.

00:32:51.000 And the Flores Agreement, the settlement agreement, basically suggested that unaccompanied minors who come to the southern border could not be held in custody for longer than 20 days.

00:33:00.000 Right.

00:33:01.000 In 2014-2015, there's this big wave of migrants that comes up To the border with kids, as parents with kids.

00:33:07.000 And the Obama administration decides they want to hold the parents and the kids there together.

00:33:10.000 And they actually called it a deterrence at the time.

00:33:12.000 Jay Johnson, who is the head of DHS, he said at the time this is a deterrent policy designed to keep people from coming to the United States.

00:33:19.000 There's a lawsuit filed against that policy of keeping the children with the parents together in detention.

00:33:24.000 On the basis of the Flores settlement, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals rules that if you arrest the parents, you cannot keep the kids in custody longer than 20 days.

00:33:31.000 The kids have to be released out of custody.

00:33:34.000 They cannot be held with the parents.

00:33:35.000 So Trump comes along and he says, listen, we're not going to just catch and release these people anymore.

00:33:39.000 So what Obama did in response was he basically said, OK, we're not going to arrest anyone.

00:33:42.000 People are going to come across the border with their kids.

00:33:44.000 We're just going to hold them for a second, then we'll release them, and then we will trust them to come back.

00:33:48.000 Well, this resulted in a very high rate of people not showing up for court, as you would imagine.

00:33:52.000 Something like four in ten people not showing up for court.

00:33:55.000 They just disappear into the interior.

00:33:56.000 Yeah, I know.

00:33:56.000 It's like Los Angeles traffic tickets, only with felonies.

00:34:00.000 That's exactly right.

00:34:01.000 So, in 2017-2018, the Trump administration makes clear they are now going to put into place The no-tolerance policy, the zero-tolerance policy, where everybody who comes across the border illegally will now be prosecuted as an illegal immigrant.

00:34:12.000 If you want to apply for asylum, you go to a point of entry, no problem.

00:34:15.000 You want to try and immigrate legally, you go to a point of entry, no problem.

00:34:17.000 You try to cross the border where there is no border patrol, and they will arrest you and they will charge you criminally.

00:34:23.000 What that means is that thanks to that reenactment of the Flores Settlement under 2016 Ninth Circuit law, Once you arrest the parents, you cannot keep the kids in custody with the parents.

00:34:32.000 They must be separated by policy.

00:34:34.000 So it wasn't that Trump was like, you know what?

00:34:36.000 Let's grab these families and then separate out the kids because I hate children. 0.94

00:34:38.000 They're the worst. 1.00

00:34:39.000 And I want to murder them. 1.00

00:34:40.000 No, what it really was- Specifically brown children. 1.00

00:34:42.000 Specifically brown children, as we've been told.

00:34:44.000 Exactly.

00:34:45.000 When, when it's just like the Nazis. 0.83

00:34:47.000 Instead, what it really was, was it was going to be President Trump arresting everyone who comes across the border.

00:34:52.000 And if the natural after effect of that is the kids can't be held in custody, then they're separated for a given period of time.

00:34:57.000 Until they are deported as a family.

00:34:59.000 If they apply for asylum, that time is a little bit longer.

00:35:02.000 And if they don't apply for asylum, then the court process moves pretty quickly for deportation.

00:35:06.000 The kids get deported alongside the parents.

00:35:08.000 The media instead proclaim, this is Japanese internment, this is Nazi policy, it's brand new. 0.96

00:35:12.000 Now, the way that you know this was absolute crap, the way that you know this was absolute crap is not only because the Obama administration did it, but also because when the Trump administration does it, Then the suggestion is if they separate the families, this is the worst thing ever, right? 0.97

00:35:26.000 You got Rachel Maddow weeping openly on television. 0.99

00:35:28.000 But if they bring the families back together in detention, then the suggestion is that this is inhumane.

00:35:28.000 Yeah.

00:35:33.000 So if you separate the families, it's inhumane and Nazi-esque.

00:35:35.000 If you bring the families together, it's like the Japanese internment camps.

00:35:38.000 Right.

00:35:39.000 Which is when I ask myself, what would Kevin Spacey do?

00:35:47.000 I'd probably just enter the cages.

00:35:48.000 Here's the thing.

00:35:49.000 I just said all of the things that Ben Shapiro said in the earlier segment.

00:35:51.000 I just wanted to make sure that you heard it from someone who people believed.

00:35:55.000 Source people trust.

00:35:56.000 Source people knows your trust.

00:35:58.000 No, that's exactly right.

00:35:59.000 And this is a good example of where I've talked about this, where we do the Change My Mind.

00:36:03.000 A lot of people go, well, I didn't like this one because you're usually civil.

00:36:05.000 No, I'm not going to be civil based on a lie.

00:36:07.000 And when we talked about Build the Wall, people started talking about dreamers.

00:36:10.000 People started talking about anchormen.

00:36:11.000 What about the kids who were here?

00:36:12.000 I go, okay, everyone obviously is compassionate.

00:36:14.000 But you don't want to deport felons.

00:36:17.000 You want open borders.

00:36:18.000 So before we get that far down the trail to try and find common ground... Not Ben, by the way.

00:36:22.000 I'm talking about the people at Change My Mind.

00:36:23.000 Before we try and act as though we can find common ground on what to do with children, let's figure out what we do with the bulk of illegal immigration. 0.98

00:36:30.000 And there is no common ground.

00:36:31.000 And that's what you see right now.

00:36:32.000 It's appeasing crocodiles.

00:36:33.000 Donald Trump separates them. 1.00

00:36:34.000 He's a monster. 0.99

00:36:35.000 Puts them back together. 1.00

00:36:36.000 He's a monster. 0.98

00:36:37.000 The only solution is, again, where we have no common ground. 0.98

00:36:40.000 Open borders completely.

00:36:41.000 Now, I will say that the Trump administration did botch the rollout of this policy in magnificent fashion, as per our usual arrangement.

00:36:47.000 The Trump administration has a policy, and the policy is perfectly defensible on the merits, and instead of just rolling out the policy saying, listen, we have a zero-tolerance policy, we'd prefer to change the law so kids can stay with their parents in detention facilities, Before they are removed en masse. 0.98

00:37:00.000 Instead of doing that, he has a bunch of people tried out there to say that he wants to use the separation of the children as a deterrent in and of itself, which is idiotic. 0.89

00:37:07.000 And then say, well, we didn't really mean that. 0.96

00:37:08.000 What we really meant is we like to keep everybody together.

00:37:10.000 And then say, but we can't keep everybody together because the legislature has to solve that, which is correct.

00:37:15.000 But we, the executive branch, can't just sign an executive order getting rid of this.

00:37:18.000 And then after about a week of blowback, say, well, you know, we'll sign an executive order and we'll

00:37:22.000 sort of get rid of it and we'll sort of not get rid of it.

00:37:24.000 Therefore undercutting the entire legal basis for what you've been claiming for two weeks and making you look malicious 1.00

00:37:28.000 and stupid. 1.00

00:37:29.000 Like there's no reason that it had to be rolled out this way. 1.00

00:37:31.000 It's the worst rollout of any policy that they've had since the travel ban.

00:37:33.000 And again, there is there's no rationale for it because again, it is perfectly defensible on the legal merits, you

00:37:40.000 know, as a lawyer on the legal merits.

00:37:42.000 This is a perfectly defensible policy.

00:37:43.000 It is just not defensible to switch in time all the time.

00:37:47.000 I forgot that you were a lawyer.

00:37:48.000 I thought you were touring with the Russian Opera playing violin for a while.

00:37:51.000 But then I remember you were a lawyer.

00:37:53.000 You were my lawyer!

00:37:53.000 That's right.

00:37:55.000 I was your lawyer.

00:37:56.000 I was the ultimate Jew's lawyer.

00:37:58.000 It's amazing.

00:38:00.000 No, I'm uncomfortable.

00:38:02.000 I feel like, I don't know, I don't know what's going on here.

00:38:06.000 But one thing I've definitely noticed with you, you find yourself defending the policies of the Trump administration more and more, while of course, listen, the PR debacle.

00:38:13.000 So here's the deal, when we talked about this, there are the polls as well, where people don't support, well, until he signed the executive order, people did not support the separation of families.

00:38:20.000 But people over, well, a plurality of people, I think it was 46 to 37, you probably remember the stat from earlier this week, do support strict immigration laws and enforcement of borders.

00:38:29.000 So that shows you there's a disconnect between what Americans want and what they perceive is happening according to the media.

00:38:34.000 And yes, Donald Trump gives them a little bit of a gift.

00:38:36.000 That being said, you can't use it, and this is what the left is doing, taking this debacle and using it to argue for the fact that, well, the laws haven't been enforced, therefore it's a human right to be in the United States of America.

00:38:46.000 Yeah, exactly right.

00:38:47.000 And again, the tell is pretty obvious here.

00:38:50.000 Ted Cruz says, OK, well, here's a fix.

00:38:52.000 And Chuck Schumer, who five seconds ago was saying this is Japanese interment in Nazism, is saying, well, you know, we're not going to work with you on that fix.

00:38:57.000 We prefer to hold Trump's feet to the fire.

00:38:59.000 I was like, well, either it's Nazism and you should try to stop it or it's not Nazism and you're just lying about it. 0.76

00:39:04.000 And it turns out that it's the second.

00:39:05.000 And of course, now that the Trump administration has signed this executive order, which, by the way, is legally vacuous.

00:39:11.000 I mean, it really is an empty executive order.

00:39:14.000 It either reinstitutes catch-and-release, or it doesn't change policy at all from what the Trump administration was already doing.

00:39:20.000 It just kind of puts a nicer face on it.

00:39:22.000 But like you're saying, that's kind of what's needed right now.

00:39:25.000 That is what's needed, is a nicer face on it, because something needs to be done.

00:39:28.000 I disagree with the executive order to the extent that I think it's foolish, because he's not going to win any points with people who hate him. 0.92

00:39:33.000 They're just going to suggest that he is an inhumane monster.

00:39:35.000 And I also think that it's not operative.

00:39:38.000 It's just legally not operative.

00:39:39.000 What he should have done is he should have said, here's a piece of draft legislation I came up with

00:39:43.000 with Ted Cruz and whomever else is gonna propose this.

00:39:45.000 If Democrats don't support it, it's because they obviously don't want to fix the problem.

00:39:49.000 Right, exactly.

00:39:50.000 That I think would have been a better PR tactic as opposed to saying,

00:39:52.000 it's too weak. And it is putting a nice face on it, is what I'm saying,

00:39:54.000 because you know the Democrats wouldn't get behind it.

00:39:55.000 Either way, you're putting a nice face on something that has to be done.

00:39:57.000 That would have been a more effective way to do it.

00:39:58.000 Right.

00:39:58.000 I just don't think that the nice face is going to succeed, because you're going to have Samantha Bee out there immediately suggesting that the executive order is now about ripping children away from freedom and putting them in jail.

00:40:07.000 Right?

00:40:08.000 This is what she did on her Exscribble show last night.

00:40:10.000 She officially won.

00:40:11.000 You know, I've had this running tally for years, this four-way running gun battle for the least funny human being in America.

00:40:17.000 And it was always between Samantha Bee, Trevor Noah, Lena Dunham, and Amy Schumer.

00:40:21.000 And in the last several weeks, I mean, Samantha Bee is like secretariat.

00:40:24.000 She is just bolted away from the pack.

00:40:25.000 It is astonishing.

00:40:27.000 Yeah, no, exactly.

00:40:29.000 If you could combine her with the face of Sarah Jessica Parker, she would be secretariat.

00:40:32.000 I think you're mostly correct here.

00:40:35.000 Like I said, I think either way there needs to be a band-aid put on as far as the PR issue.

00:40:39.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:40:39.000 The Americans perceive... Most Americans want enforcement of the law.

00:40:42.000 That was one thing we noticed that changed my mind where we did the build the wall.

00:40:45.000 People come up and said, Yeah, they agreed with everything except they said, I think a wall is mean.

00:40:49.000 And they go, a wall's not going to do anything.

00:40:51.000 We go, hold on a second.

00:40:52.000 What if it were to do something?

00:40:53.000 It's a piece of the puzzle.

00:40:55.000 Americans are definitely tired of nothing being done with illegal immigration.

00:40:58.000 And politicians are using this for football right now. 0.97

00:41:01.000 So it's a quagmire.

00:41:02.000 It's absolutely a quagmire.

00:41:04.000 But, you know, it took our jobs.

00:41:06.000 Let me ask you.

00:41:07.000 This is why I've never been a fan of the whole idea of comprehensive immigration control and comprehensive immigration bills and all this nonsense.

00:41:13.000 Because if you take each one of these policies in a vacuum, people know what the right thing to do is.

00:41:17.000 If you just say, a wall alone, people are like, yeah, makes perfect sense.

00:41:20.000 If you say, okay, we got to enforce the border, people are like, makes perfect sense.

00:41:22.000 If you say, families should stay together, people say, makes perfect sense.

00:41:25.000 And then you wrap it all up into one giant piece of crappy legislation and pass it, and then none of it makes any sense anymore.

00:41:30.000 Right, that's exactly right.

00:41:32.000 Oh, we had a guy who said they should have x-ray lasers at the borders with people with tags.

00:41:39.000 And I was like, you want to tag and bag illegal immigrants? 1.00

00:41:42.000 Use your McDonald's taxes for that.

00:41:43.000 Yes!

00:41:46.000 I would say it was uploaded online.

00:41:47.000 Hey, so we were talking about this not too long ago, and I know you mentioned this, Tommy Robinson, who's been on the show quite a bit.

00:41:56.000 You said that you might have had a misimpression of him a little bit, and obviously it's gotten worse since you've talked about him, now that he's been moved to another jail.

00:42:02.000 Yeah, I corrected it on my show as well.

00:42:04.000 So my original impression of him when I first talked about him, is I use the descriptor far-right, which always seemed to be somewhere between alt-right and not quite alt-right.

00:42:12.000 And I shouldn't have known better than that, obviously, because there are so many people on the left who will call anyone alt-right.

00:42:17.000 I'd seen some of Zolder's quotes as well, right?

00:42:18.000 There were some of Zolder's quotes after the 7-7 London subway bombings, where he sort of impugned all Muslims as being responsible for that.

00:42:25.000 I looked at that and I said, well, that's pretty radical stuff, obviously.

00:42:27.000 He's apologized for that.

00:42:29.000 He's moved away from that.

00:42:30.000 And so I did read on air a piece by, I'm trying to remember who it was, Douglas Murray.

00:42:37.000 Uh, about Tommy Robinson, sort of his background, and it gave me a fuller picture of who Tommy Robinson is.

00:42:43.000 A guy who certainly has his troubles, but I think in many ways is trying to do the right thing.

00:42:46.000 So, I wanted to be a little more accurate than my original depiction of him, which was kind of cursory and using descriptors that are too vague.

00:42:54.000 Well, I appreciate that, Ben.

00:42:55.000 I think that goes a long way, because we've done that too on this show, where this is the difference with what we do.

00:42:59.000 People can't really go after our sponsors or get us fired, but it also means that we have to have a system of self-accounting.

00:43:04.000 Kind of like hockey.

00:43:05.000 We have to be our own enforcers.

00:43:06.000 And especially now with what you see what's happening with Tommy.

00:43:09.000 Tommy's been a good friend of the show, and he's a self-professed Zionist as well.

00:43:11.000 So I know a lot of people have labeled him an alt-right Nazi.

00:43:13.000 Whenever I see that, I go, well, hold on a second.

00:43:15.000 Maybe he's alt, but is he a Nazi?

00:43:15.000 Okay.

00:43:16.000 And I go, wait, hold on a second.

00:43:17.000 He's a huge supporter of Israel.

00:43:18.000 He's not doing it very well.

00:43:19.000 No, he's not doing it very well.

00:43:20.000 But someone who's doing it better is probably Chuck Schumer.

00:43:23.000 If he believes this is like Auschwitz, imagine that.

00:43:25.000 Well, we could close Auschwitz, but let's use it as leverage. 0.96

00:43:30.000 That's what's going on now.

00:43:31.000 It really does belittle the history of the Holocaust when all of this is compared to

00:43:36.000 the Holocaust and then they, well, effectively... 1.00

00:43:39.000 Everything is stupid. 1.00

00:43:40.000 Apparently the only things that anyone knows in America is they once read part of a Harry Potter book and they heard of these bad people called the Nazis. 1.00

00:43:46.000 And so everything has to fit into one of these two frameworks.

00:43:48.000 Either it's a reference to Hogwarts, or if I don't like it, then it's a Nazi. 0.74

00:43:53.000 These are the only, if it's great, it's Harry Potter.

00:43:55.000 If it's bad, it's a Nazi. 0.98

00:43:56.000 So it's just, I'm so glad that our political conversations have boiled down to Harry Potter, Nazis, and Kim Kardashian's ass somehow achieving pardons for drug dealers.

00:44:04.000 I would love to see your Google search history.

00:44:06.000 This is our policy.

00:44:06.000 That's great.

00:44:09.000 Wait, they mentioned the Nazis in Harry Potter?

00:44:11.000 I don't know.

00:44:13.000 I mean, are there Nazis?

00:44:14.000 It would make the whole thing much more threatening.

00:44:17.000 I mean, one of the big problems with Harry Potter is how competent is Voldemort if he can't even take over a high school?

00:44:22.000 Yeah, I know.

00:44:24.000 He's really having a rough time with this high school.

00:44:26.000 You're telling me he's the worst character in this entire universe and he can't take over a high school.

00:44:26.000 Exactly.

00:44:32.000 He'd probably have more success with a paneled van labeled Free Puppies. 0.90

00:44:35.000 When you frame it all this way, it does sound kind of silly. 0.97

00:44:38.000 It does sound kind of silly. 0.88

00:44:39.000 He's not a formidable foe, now that I think about it.

00:44:42.000 You just had low aspirations, that's all.

00:44:44.000 One thing I will say about Harry Potter, my wife actually, because I was like, this is unwatchable.

00:44:47.000 I can't watch this.

00:44:48.000 And I was like, I know how it ends, because Harry Potter, and she lied to me. 0.73

00:44:51.000 And she told me that Neville, what his name is, Long, Neville, I don't know, Neville Longbottom?

00:44:56.000 Longbutt?

00:44:57.000 I don't know.

00:44:58.000 But she's like, he's the real Harry Potter!

00:44:59.000 Ha ha ha!

00:45:00.000 So now I have to find out how they tie this all together.

00:45:02.000 Harry Potter's not, and I was like, really?

00:45:03.000 And I watched, it turns out she lied!

00:45:05.000 And I watched the whole series!

00:45:07.000 Wow.

00:45:08.000 I'm having an annulment.

00:45:10.000 You're a loving husband.

00:45:11.000 I mean, that's pretty brutal right there.

00:45:13.000 All of them, Ben.

00:45:14.000 That's a hell of a prank. 0.98

00:45:15.000 I hope you had a hell of a piss, Arnold! 0.95

00:45:18.000 And then after that, I took her to Harry Potter World, and I got violently ill. 0.82

00:45:22.000 So, not the biggest fan.

00:45:24.000 That's why I do wonder... I don't remember the Nazis being mentioned in the films, but again, I'm not one of those people with Harry Potter who says, the books were better, because...

00:45:31.000 I don't hate myself.

00:45:33.000 Ben, so you are at Daily Wire, and of course you have a show coming up, if I'm not mistaken, in Dallas on August 15th, Ben Shapiro Live.

00:45:40.000 Tickets are available at LiveNation.com, right?

00:45:43.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:45:44.000 And you can go over to dailywire.com slash events as well if you want to check out the tickets there.

00:45:47.000 So yeah, we're almost sold out, and it should be a blast.

00:45:50.000 We've got about 3,000 people who are showing up.

00:45:52.000 Nice.

00:45:52.000 And we're looking forward to it.

00:45:53.000 We're doing one in Dallas.

00:45:54.000 We're doing one in Phoenix, I think, the next night.

00:45:55.000 So our first live podcast, our first live show.

00:45:58.000 So that should be fun.

00:45:59.000 Oh, so you're doing like what we did at SMU.

00:46:00.000 You're taking the Ben Shapiro—I didn't know you were taking the Ben Shapiro show on the road.

00:46:03.000 I thought you were doing just a speaking engagement, but it's the show live.

00:46:05.000 Yeah, no, it's not like a formal speech.

00:46:07.000 It's going to be me kind of riffing, and then we'll do Q&A for a while.

00:46:09.000 Man, that'll be fun.

00:46:10.000 Well, I will tell you too, when we did it at SMU, it was, you know, same size and the protesters were, it was paltry and it wasn't even their signs.

00:46:17.000 So they're not very invigorated in Dallas.

00:46:19.000 I think you'll be mostly fine.

00:46:20.000 I'm definitely, I'm definitely looking forward to it.

00:46:24.000 So yeah, I'll see you there.

00:46:25.000 I'll stop by or I'll just say I'll stop by right now on your show and I actually won't stop by and I'll just ignore you when I come.

00:46:30.000 Yeah, that's absolutely fine.

00:46:30.000 And then I'll just find some angry, angry leftist in Austin and tweet your address and I'll make sure to get them through security.

00:46:37.000 And then I'll have Sven Computer, like, storming the stage for me.

00:46:41.000 Right before you deported.

00:46:42.000 Yes, haven't you heard?

00:46:43.000 We're just as bad as the left.

00:46:45.000 Okay, that is the Ben Shapiro show at Daily Wire.

00:46:47.000 Thank you, Ben, very much.

00:46:48.000 I appreciate it, brother.

00:46:49.000 You look like you're working too much.

00:46:50.000 Get some rest.

00:46:52.000 Hard to see, my friend.

00:46:53.000 Great day in America.

00:47:02.000 Hopper here.

00:47:04.000 I just want to tell you how touched I've been.

00:47:06.000 And so too for all the people who joined my club, I've been getting more cheeses and blueberries

00:47:12.000 and I just hope that I can earn all the cheeses and blueberries and I don't know why I have

00:47:17.000 them but...

00:47:18.000 Somewhere in my youth or childhood I must have done something good...

00:47:30.000 Oh blueberry! 1.00

00:47:30.000 This is why we're not on television. 1.00

00:47:53.000 Also, we don't want to.

00:47:55.000 Our next guest, I'm very happy to have him back.

00:47:56.000 It's been a while.

00:47:57.000 I thought he was cross with us.

00:47:59.000 See?

00:47:59.000 I did.

00:47:59.000 Because most people are, and also apparently I use terms from the 1930s that are entirely unnecessary.

00:48:04.000 Yeah, we'll arbitrate that later.

00:48:06.000 Dumpster fire!

00:48:06.000 I love being back.

00:48:07.000 I haven't seen you in a while.

00:48:07.000 kids are using. But you know him at the Kumiya Show on Twitter. See, whenever you have several

00:48:13.000 plugs people know exactly who it is already. And of course at Compound Media, the Anthony

00:48:18.000 Kumiya Show. Kumiya, Kumiya Show. I always get the stuff wrong. Sorry, I was saying it

00:48:22.000 wrong. It's fine. Anthony Kumiya, thanks for being back, sir. Love being back. I haven't

00:48:27.000 seen you in a while. No, we don't have a beef. We're not crossed with each other. Nothing

00:48:32.000 It's just, yeah, running these kind of, you know this, like running a show and a network thing in this day and age is a full-time job.

00:48:40.000 Yes, well you look good though, you got the haircut now and you look younger.

00:48:45.000 Yeah, a little civilized.

00:48:46.000 I figured I had to do it.

00:48:48.000 I ask people to contribute money to me for HD video.

00:48:52.000 You don't want it to be too gruesome for them, so I figured I better clean up a little bit.

00:48:57.000 You're not making the move to 4K yet.

00:48:59.000 No, no, no.

00:49:00.000 We won't be doing that.

00:49:02.000 I want that Vaseline lens like the women on old Star Trek episodes used to get. 1.00

00:49:06.000 Yeah, we're Cammy Diaz's pockmarks hideout, so that way we never know.

00:49:10.000 Exactly, yes!

00:49:12.000 There were a couple people who you see in HD for the first- Cameron Diaz was the first one where I saw and I said, oh, that's not the woman who had a crush on on the mask when I was young.

00:49:20.000 Same one.

00:49:21.000 No, not at all.

00:49:22.000 Yeah, bad skin and facial hair really show up in 4K.

00:49:26.000 It's crazy.

00:49:27.000 And you know, actually, my father makes an audible sound.

00:49:31.000 Every time Maggie Gyllenhaal is on the screen at a movie theater, he makes sure to go... so the people around him can hear her go...

00:49:40.000 Which is so unfortunate, because her brother is so gorgeous, even as a straight man.

00:49:44.000 Like, Jake Gyllenhaal.

00:49:45.000 I noticed that's a trend.

00:49:46.000 I very rarely see, like, a really chocked man. 0.95

00:49:48.000 The sister's almost always kind of butch-looking. 0.94

00:49:51.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:49:51.000 Kind of like, looks like the man. 0.94

00:49:52.000 Yeah.

00:49:53.000 I think, yeah, it probably worked that way, where the guy gets a little bit of that femme hormone in the womb, and the girl has to, you know, take the butch, more butch form. 0.81

00:50:02.000 Replace Katie Holmes. 0.98

00:50:04.000 Right.

00:50:06.000 Or, like Billy Joel, you marry Christie Brinkley, you have a child and she looks like you.

00:50:10.000 Ugh.

00:50:13.000 Shame.

00:50:14.000 Every time I see it.

00:50:14.000 Alright, Anthony, so I know you have some strong opinions on what's been going on.

00:50:18.000 We just talked about this, what's been going on with immigration and ripping babies from their mother's arms and Peter Fonda. 1.00

00:50:25.000 So much has happened this week.

00:50:27.000 First off, is that a real cigarette holder or is that a prank cigarette holder?

00:50:31.000 Well, it is a cigarette holder.

00:50:36.000 I imitate my father with it.

00:50:39.000 My father, it has to go like this. 1.00

00:50:42.000 Son of a bitch, Anthony. 1.00

00:50:44.000 Simple common sense. 1.00

00:50:46.000 And it puts me back there and tames me down a bit.

00:50:50.000 Yeah, and just make sure you don't hug anyone else for a couple of weeks and create a conflict.

00:50:53.000 That's right.

00:50:55.000 We'd do a little bit better.

00:50:56.000 So what's your read on this whole thing this week?

00:50:59.000 We just talked about how obviously these compounds existed with Obama, and I know you're pretty media savvy.

00:51:05.000 It's so, uh, it's politically motivated.

00:51:09.000 It's, uh, I can't.

00:51:12.000 I can't believe anybody watches anyone on the left talk about this and actually goes, yeah, yeah, they do care.

00:51:19.000 They care about the children.

00:51:22.000 Because it's so obvious when they use words like torn, ripped from their parents' arms.

00:51:28.000 Yes.

00:51:28.000 No one's being like, I haven't seen one video of give me that kid.

00:51:33.000 You want you like I haven't seen one video like that.

00:51:37.000 But it's just Kevin Spacey.

00:51:38.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:39.000 Yeah.

00:51:41.000 Yeah, I haven't seen one of those.

00:51:44.000 All I've seen are kids in new sneakers.

00:51:49.000 I think it's a version of America they settle for.

00:51:52.000 where there's arts and crafts and PlayStation and food, plenty of food.

00:51:57.000 And then it's of course the liberals have to take it to that umpteenth level.

00:52:02.000 It looks like Auschwitz filtering in cages.

00:52:08.000 I think it's a version of America they settle for. I think they're okay with it.

00:52:11.000 Yeah.

00:52:13.000 And it's getting very difficult for people on the left to lie to people because we have such availability to actually see and feel things.

00:52:24.000 Like when they talk about the tax cuts being a terrible thing.

00:52:27.000 And Pelosi will be like, oh, it's crumbs and it's a bad thing.

00:52:32.000 And then somebody actually gets their paycheck and goes, wait, there's more money in here.

00:52:37.000 How much does someone have to lie to you for you to go, yeah, and that's bad, more, more of my money.

00:52:44.000 Like it's getting very difficult for them to lie.

00:52:46.000 So when they say children in cages and you see these bunks and food and arts and crafts and things, you really start going, is that like Auschwitz?

00:52:57.000 Is that really like a concentration Nazi death camp?

00:53:01.000 They have a lot of empanadas at Auschwitz.

00:53:04.000 That's because we totally overblown the whole Auschwitz thing. 0.83

00:53:06.000 Yeah.

00:53:07.000 History's a lie.

00:53:09.000 They just don't know that we can see it, we understand what's going on, and no matter what they say, and it's politically motivated, it is just to get Trump out, or in trouble, or impeached.

00:53:22.000 Because what we're seeing now, there's so many tweets today that I've just been laughing at.

00:53:27.000 Well, he signed some order so families could be together, but now families are incarcerated together?

00:53:36.000 They literally want, Oh, welcome, Matt!

00:53:39.000 Go, come on in!

00:53:40.000 Come on in, everyone!

00:53:41.000 I know, I know.

00:53:41.000 Feel free, make yourselves at home!

00:53:44.000 And that's the thing, I'm through trying to find common ground when they want open borders.

00:53:47.000 It's like, well, listen, you don't even believe in deporting felons, so let's not talk about babies and dreamers, okay?

00:53:52.000 They want our border to look like the red carpet at the Chinese theater. 0.97

00:53:54.000 Yes, like Thomas Chinese, with just as many pedophiles. 0.99

00:53:58.000 You know, one thing I will say, just right now when I just heard you say this, so you just said something, About it looking, you know, camp-like.

00:54:05.000 And we've talked about that.

00:54:06.000 And here's one thing that it points out to me.

00:54:08.000 The right has played along with us, unfortunately, because the left plays in the outrage string.

00:54:12.000 And the right acts like they don't kowtow, but they often do.

00:54:14.000 Like, Laura Ingraham got into a bunch of trouble for saying something very similar to what you just said.

00:54:18.000 People went after her sponsors.

00:54:19.000 But we've done that on this show, and you can say it.

00:54:22.000 What are they going to do?

00:54:23.000 Like Walther Firearms, they're not going to drop us.

00:54:25.000 They knew the show when they signed up that we're able now to just say, no, we're not playing along.

00:54:30.000 But even the old right guard sometimes bends to it.

00:54:34.000 And that's why I think we lost for so long.

00:54:36.000 Yeah, it is difficult.

00:54:38.000 And thank God there are a few platforms out there where people could actually speak for me to be fired.

00:54:44.000 This is how difficult it is for me to be fired from here.

00:54:47.000 I have to get in a time machine.

00:54:50.000 Go like five minutes into the future.

00:54:52.000 Come in and fire myself.

00:54:54.000 It's the only way it could be done.

00:54:56.000 I can't be fired.

00:54:58.000 So I love it.

00:54:59.000 I could say whatever I want.

00:55:00.000 But there's so many people that have to tiptoe and walk on those eggshells.

00:55:05.000 Less, you know, we've seen it.

00:55:06.000 People get Exiled from the planet at this point.

00:55:11.000 Right.

00:55:11.000 Unless, of course, you're Peter Fonda.

00:55:14.000 Then Sony Pictures just keeps your film and you just go along your merry way after... Wait, he has a film?

00:55:20.000 Yeah, he has a film coming out.

00:55:22.000 Oh.

00:55:22.000 Film is coming out.

00:55:23.000 It's still greenlit.

00:55:25.000 Where's the outrage?

00:55:26.000 Where is that outrage that tosses him aside, cancels the film?

00:55:30.000 We've seen this happen with Roseanne, her show is cancelled, for saying something that was a lot easier to handle than, Barron Trump should be put in a cage with pedophiles, like Peter Phan said.

00:55:44.000 When you say it out loud like that, it almost sounds off-putting.

00:55:47.000 You know, it almost does.

00:55:49.000 Read it in a transcript, it's a lot easier.

00:55:51.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:52.000 When you say it out loud like that, it almost seems in poor taste.

00:55:54.000 Here's the thing, I'm not outraged by it at all.

00:55:57.000 I really couldn't care less.

00:55:58.000 It's just that they, you know, this is one thing when the week before that, or this same week, people were outraged that we sent Sven Computer into an LGBTQAIP panel to crash it, and they're like, you're just as bad as the left. 0.82

00:56:08.000 I'm still laughing.

00:56:09.000 I'm like, wait, hold on, just as bad?

00:56:10.000 We sent him into a panel of professionally unemployed intersexers. 1.00

00:56:16.000 He teased them.

00:56:17.000 He left with security. 1.00

00:56:18.000 He didn't say he wants a kid of a sitting president to be raped by a pedophile. 0.99

00:56:22.000 Liberals, let's just give up past anything they deem as righteous anger. 0.99

00:56:26.000 Same thing that happened with Samantha Bee.

00:56:27.000 She kind of half-assed apologized because she didn't want to really back down from her statements.

00:56:31.000 It was deserved.

00:56:34.000 When I hear, well, they're all the same.

00:56:37.000 It's the biggest cop-out.

00:56:38.000 Both sides are the same. 0.53

00:56:40.000 It's like, no, they're not.

00:56:42.000 The left is dangerous.

00:56:44.000 They're dangerous.

00:56:45.000 If you do something or say something that doesn't go along with their line and agenda, you can lose your job, your reputation, your career, everything you've worked for, and it's gone.

00:56:57.000 When you do something that the right doesn't like, wow, you're open to lively debate.

00:57:02.000 Yes.

00:57:03.000 Like there's none of these, and I don't even call them boycotts, it's extortion. 0.95

00:57:07.000 When you see someone like this David Hogg piece of crap and he goes and he's trying to get sponsors pulled from... 0.94

00:57:14.000 Laura Ingraham's show, that's not a boycott. 0.99

00:57:17.000 They go, let the marketplace decide.

00:57:19.000 If you go to sponsors and threaten them, lest they pull their ads from a show, that's not a boycott.

00:57:25.000 A boycott is when you stop watching something, the ratings go down, and the sponsors go, well, we're not going to pay for a low-rated show, so let's pull the sponsors.

00:57:34.000 You can't eliminate the boycott.

00:57:36.000 Yes.

00:57:36.000 And just threaten the sponsors like the mafia.

00:57:39.000 It's like a Sopranos episode.

00:57:41.000 Yeah.

00:57:41.000 They're walking into businesses, shaking them down, or they get beaten.

00:57:45.000 Yeah.

00:57:46.000 Well, good contrast there. 0.99

00:57:47.000 We did a whole segment on this show celebrating that he was 18 and we could call him a dick. 0.97

00:57:51.000 And we just ran through the top 10 insults to David Hogg. 0.99

00:57:53.000 Wow.

00:57:54.000 Awesome. 1.00

00:57:55.000 And I think the number one rater was he looked like Frankie Minaj had sex with a soybean. 1.00

00:57:58.000 Guess what? 0.99

00:57:59.000 No one's fired us!

00:58:01.000 Nope.

00:58:01.000 We're still here!

00:58:02.000 You never got us down, Hogg!

00:58:06.000 That moves me to the realm of comedy.

00:58:08.000 We have to get going.

00:58:09.000 It's been too long.

00:58:09.000 I have to have you back much sooner.

00:58:11.000 Yes.

00:58:11.000 When I turn into Netflix and it suggests stand-up specials, I immediately skip it.

00:58:15.000 I don't know if you saw this.

00:58:17.000 I can't remember the name.

00:58:18.000 Maybe someone can tweet me at Ask Crowder and help me out, because now I can't find it.

00:58:20.000 But it was the front, you know, the display image on Netflix, you know, on the app. 0.91

00:58:24.000 And it was this Australian lesbian fat comedian. 1.00

00:58:27.000 And it was The whole thing is she sits there and she tells one joke and then she goes, but I have to retire from comedy because my story needs to be told. 0.98

00:58:36.000 And self-deprecation is not humility, it's humiliation.

00:58:40.000 And then it flashes across the screen, New York Times says, a comedy special taking aim at comedy.

00:58:45.000 I'm like, wait, wait, wait, why is this a good thing?

00:58:49.000 The whole point to being a good comedian is dealing with pain through humor, but now there's like, it's not funny.

00:58:54.000 And it's filed under comedy specials!

00:58:56.000 Anthony, you're a comedy savant, as Nick DiPaolo put it.

00:59:00.000 What do you do?

00:59:02.000 I agree wholeheartedly, by the way.

00:59:04.000 Patton Oswalt just put a tweet out last night about, as comedian, we have a duty to talk about things that, we can't just do airplane jokes anymore.

00:59:17.000 Oh, so the comedians, the ones that were supposed to be irreverent, against the system, make people uncomfortable, they're the ones now that are supposed to be the voice of reason? 0.95

00:59:27.000 You chubby little douche. 0.98

00:59:30.000 I cannot stand this guy. 0.99

00:59:33.000 What'd you say?

00:59:34.000 I'm still stuck on duty.

00:59:35.000 Yeah, exactly!

00:59:36.000 That would have been better as a comedian!

00:59:40.000 And I hate watch Netflix, not the specials, I scroll through the beginning, like the It's kind of like a teaser, but it's automatic.

00:59:51.000 Yes, a teaser, and it's got text on the bottom.

00:59:54.000 And it's like, a hilarious take on love, political correctness, and her job.

01:00:00.000 And I cringe at just the text. 0.53

01:00:03.000 And I've done that for hours, like a psychopath.

01:00:05.000 That was this one.

01:00:06.000 It says she retires from comedy and takes on toxic culture. 0.89

01:00:11.000 What a Netflix ad.

01:00:13.000 The real rape culture.

01:00:14.000 Boy, that's just like watching Eddie Murphy delirious. 0.70

01:00:20.000 Oh yeah.

01:00:21.000 Yeah, I know.

01:00:24.000 I know you know that Patton Oswalt is funny.

01:00:26.000 He's been funny.

01:00:28.000 Yes, yes.

01:00:29.000 That's why it's so disappointing.

01:00:31.000 It's like when Mike Myers did the Love Guru.

01:00:34.000 Is it Mike Myers or Michael Myers?

01:00:35.000 Which one's the Halloween killer?

01:00:36.000 Michael Myers.

01:00:36.000 Michael Myers is Halloween killer.

01:00:37.000 I always get them confused.

01:00:39.000 When he did the Love Guru, it was so bad, it forced me to go back and go, hold on a second.

01:00:44.000 Was Austin Powers ever funny?

01:00:46.000 Because I thought it was funny growing up.

01:00:48.000 It's kind of like Ninja Turtles.

01:00:49.000 Then you realize Ninja Turtles was all bad.

01:00:50.000 But this isn't through bad humor, it's just they've gotten so political, you're going, wait a second.

01:00:55.000 Was this person ever funny?

01:00:57.000 And it forces you to revisit their catalog, and that's not how it should be!

01:01:00.000 No, I really don't like when somebody's political affiliation or philosophy gets me to the point where I don't like them as a performer anymore.

01:01:10.000 I try not to do that, but when you're saying that you're gonna Like, stop doing what you do comedically to make it more relevant for politics and the time and to help the children at the border and stuff.

01:01:24.000 Then I can't bother.

01:01:26.000 I can't bother with you anymore.

01:01:27.000 I know.

01:01:28.000 It really is tough.

01:01:28.000 There really are only a handful now.

01:01:30.000 You got, I mean, Nick DiPaolo, Bill Burr is still unbelievably funny.

01:01:34.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:01:36.000 Who else would you put on your list now who you really watch regularly?

01:01:40.000 I know.

01:01:40.000 It's tough.

01:01:41.000 Jim Norton.

01:01:41.000 I love Jimmy.

01:01:43.000 Yeah, but Nick DiPaolo, just the other day at Levity Live in New York, got punched in the eye by a little woman, this woman in Birkenstocks and, you know, and punched him right in the face. 0.71

01:01:56.000 He's got a big black eye and everything because she didn't like his brand of humor.

01:02:02.000 But that's the liberal, tolerant Lev.

01:02:06.000 Oh, we have to have him on.

01:02:07.000 He's gonna hear about this and be like, Oh, get Nick.

01:02:09.000 He's great. 0.98

01:02:10.000 Crowder, I hear you, uh, I hear you, uh, you f***ing laughed at me getting punched in the eye. 0.93

01:02:13.000 That's great. 0.88

01:02:13.000 I want to do your program again. 0.88

01:02:14.000 Be like, hold on, Nick, Nick, Nick.

01:02:15.000 It's funny when you hear it by a lady in Birkenstocks. 0.99

01:02:19.000 Yeah, it was. 0.99

01:02:21.000 A girl in Birkenstocks and a little, you know, the vagina hat and everything. 1.00

01:02:25.000 Well, no, they can't do that anymore because not all women have vaginas. 1.00

01:02:27.000 Haven't you heard? 0.99

01:02:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:29.000 Haven't we heard that?

01:02:30.000 The insanity, the absolute insanity going on.

01:02:35.000 We think, like, I think back a year ago or even six months ago and go, it can't possibly get worse than this.

01:02:41.000 And then the mental institution throws another set of doors open and more maniacs come flying out.

01:02:47.000 I know, I know.

01:02:48.000 But, you know, as comedians, there's nothing funny here. 0.51

01:02:50.000 It's a dumpster fire! 1.00

01:02:52.000 There's nothing funny about people protesting the pussy hats because not all women have vaginas. 1.00

01:03:00.000 You couldn't possibly come up with a premise from that, says Poutinak. 0.99

01:03:04.000 No, no, no.

01:03:05.000 All right, we gotta get going, brother.

01:03:06.000 But that is, of course, The Anthony Cumia Show on Compound Media.

01:03:10.000 Did I just say it wrong again?

01:03:11.000 Son of a- No, that's perfect.

01:03:12.000 Okay, all right.

01:03:13.000 And at The Cumia Show on the Twitter.

01:03:16.000 And what's the YouTube channel as well?

01:03:19.000 Uh, I don't know.

01:03:19.000 Just look up Compound Media.

01:03:21.000 I'm all over it.

01:03:22.000 He is.

01:03:22.000 He's all over it.

01:03:23.000 He runs it and some other great shows there.

01:03:25.000 Hey, Anthony, thank you so much, brother.

01:03:26.000 We'll have you back soon.

01:03:27.000 Thank you, Steven.

01:03:28.000 Alright, and we're wrapping this up!

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01:04:17.000 today.

01:04:46.000 I think the leader of God's chosen people to death is going to be taken up by a little 0.57

01:05:03.000 Nope.

01:05:04.000 It won't happen by the permission of the Lord my God.

01:05:09.000 Red Sea just had its way with... Well, that's pretty much everyone, as it relates to you.

01:05:14.000 Hey, Anthony Cumia, thank you so much.

01:05:15.000 And Ben Shapiro, thank you very much.

01:05:16.000 Charlton Essin, terrible actor.

01:05:17.000 Not a fan.

01:05:18.000 That's something else we'll also get in the comments section.

01:05:20.000 I've gotten more hate for saying that I didn't think Harold Burnett was funny.

01:05:23.000 Really?

01:05:23.000 Thank anything else.

01:05:25.000 Yeah.

01:05:26.000 Yeah.

01:05:27.000 I can... That.

01:05:28.000 And that Hitler was a liberal socialist. 0.82

01:05:30.000 I still think so.

01:05:31.000 And Bruce Lee.

01:05:33.000 Oh my gosh, Bruce Lee!

01:05:36.000 It's confirmed!

01:05:37.000 It's confirmed.

01:05:39.000 And everything we said was true.

01:05:41.000 Which, by the way, speaking of which, we have Vos Rooten on the show.

01:05:43.000 Really?

01:05:43.000 Come on up.

01:05:43.000 Next week, and Andrew Klavan and Sebastian Gorka.

01:05:46.000 And we have a bunch of great people coming on the show.

01:05:47.000 We have some more Change My Minds coming up.

01:05:49.000 Cultural appropriation again next week.

01:05:50.000 Send in your ideas.

01:05:51.000 Cultural appropriation next week.

01:05:52.000 And I'll be doing another costume contest.

01:05:53.000 First costume contest.

01:05:54.000 Lost tonight, sorry.

01:05:55.000 And we're doing some hidden camera work here.

01:05:59.000 Pretty soon.

01:06:00.000 Some stuff that we're predicting could go... You have to mischief, see.

01:06:03.000 Yes.

01:06:04.000 Well, not really mischief, actually.

01:06:05.000 There's something we're really seeking to accomplish, and it's kind of dangerous.

01:06:07.000 We're not gonna lie to you.

01:06:09.000 We might come in with some black eyes here at some point.

01:06:12.000 Very soon.

01:06:13.000 And here's the thing.

01:06:16.000 I don't want to...

01:06:18.000 We usually don't tell you about this, and that's because hidden cameras can go either

01:06:21.000 way.

01:06:22.000 You never know.

01:06:23.000 If there's no story, we don't really create a story.

01:06:25.000 I remember when I used to be at other news networks, they would do that.

01:06:29.000 Make the footage work.

01:06:30.000 Yeah, make the footage work.

01:06:31.000 So you never know.

01:06:32.000 But...

01:06:33.000 Advocate.

01:06:34.000 Yeah.

01:06:35.000 You had a point, you were...

01:06:36.000 Here we go.

01:06:37.000 I fixed it and now it's bad again.

01:06:39.000 You had a point before that we were talking about during the break.

01:06:41.000 Yeah, something that's really bothering me this week is the whole Peter Fonda thing.

01:06:44.000 And I'm not mad that he, you know, there is a blatant hypocrisy that he's like, his movie is alive and well, unlike Roseanne, who is, you know, removed from society for much less, in my opinion.

01:06:55.000 Yeah.

01:06:56.000 But what's bothering?

01:06:57.000 It's not really an opinion.

01:06:58.000 Yeah, it's just kind of a fantasy. 0.99

01:06:58.000 I think saying someone looked like someone from Planet of the Apes, as far as a haircut, I think is definitively less severe than saying you hope someone's child gets raped by pedophiles. 0.99

01:07:09.000 When you say it that way, I... Yeah, I don't think it's... But I guess it's opinion. 0.92

01:07:12.000 I guess we have to hedge our bets.

01:07:13.000 It's like, allegedly, opinion. 0.85

01:07:16.000 Raped by pedophiles? 0.98

01:07:17.000 Bad haircut! 1.00

01:07:19.000 You decide!

01:07:20.000 What pisses me off is this idea of righteous anger and how the love gives a pass to people who they deem have righteous anger, which is fine.

01:07:30.000 There are instances of righteous anger, but it has to be based on truth.

01:07:33.000 And if it's not based on truth, you don't earn the righteous anger pass.

01:07:38.000 It shouldn't be conceded that moral high ground just because you scream.

01:07:41.000 No, there are places in life where righteous anger is well-warranted.

01:07:45.000 You know, if your daughter's getting beat to hell by a trainee in the Texas State Wrestling Championship... Demonetized. 1.00

01:07:50.000 Yeah, demonetized.

01:07:51.000 But, you know, that's righteous anger.

01:07:53.000 You know, the dad who wanted to beat the crap out of the Olympic coach in the trial hearing? 0.89

01:07:58.000 That's a righteous anger. 0.95

01:07:59.000 Like, okay, I get it.

01:08:01.000 But it's not based on a lie.

01:08:01.000 Yes.

01:08:02.000 It's based on truth.

01:08:03.000 And I think we kind of like to blur the lines and pretend, okay, you know, actually, Be as may, Samantha Bee had a point.

01:08:10.000 Right.

01:08:10.000 And it's also based on some framework of morality that the left despises.

01:08:13.000 That's why they despised Dirty Harry as a character.

01:08:16.000 Death Wish, right?

01:08:17.000 This is racist. 0.86

01:08:19.000 This is jingoist. 1.00

01:08:20.000 This is vigilante.

01:08:21.000 This is bad.

01:08:22.000 This is toxic masculinity.

01:08:24.000 Because they don't have a foundation.

01:08:25.000 They don't have a moral framework.

01:08:27.000 And yeah, I think that's a good point.

01:08:28.000 That said, I do think Peter Fonda had a much better apology than Samantha Bee offered.

01:08:32.000 I will give him that much.

01:08:34.000 I don't watch apologies.

01:08:36.000 He didn't really...

01:08:38.000 Yeah, I guess so.

01:08:41.000 I appreciate what Ben Shapiro said earlier about Tommy Robinson.

01:08:49.000 Like, we do that all the time on this show, and I've seen him do it before.

01:08:52.000 And I know, listen, Ben can be a little bit of a know-it-all, because usually he does know it all.

01:08:55.000 But I appreciate that, like I said, we have to kind of self-regulate with that.

01:08:58.000 So we do have to hold ourselves to a bit of a higher standard than, say, Samantha Bee or Peter Fonda.

01:09:02.000 Speaking of foundation, you know, that's a really important thing, and I'm letting the cat out of the bag here.

01:09:06.000 We pre-taped Brian Shaw this week, and again, the reason for that is because we're going to be doing some hidden camera stuff on location, and so every now and then we have to pre-tape a guest because it's just... We're doing this on a staff of very... We're doing this on a staff that's less than half of just the writers for the Dana Carvey sketch show, to give you an idea.

01:09:22.000 Go again and watch that. 0.94

01:09:23.000 And their stuff was pure sh**. 0.89

01:09:24.000 No, their stuff was, some of it was pretty bad, but some really talented people. 0.94

01:09:30.000 It's funny, actually, my dad said, do you need to watch this?

01:09:31.000 I said, what are you saying, we're going to fail?

01:09:33.000 He said, no, I'm just saying that comedians, look, they used to be these great people, and I was like, that's not what I see at all.

01:09:38.000 He said, no, no, I'm saying that now they're cowardly, and they used to go up against the networks, and this is a great opportunity for a lot of us.

01:09:44.000 I said, I watch it, and I see that.

01:09:46.000 Hard work and great talent aren't enough sometimes.

01:09:50.000 But speaking of foundation, you've gained some weight here.

01:09:52.000 We talked about this with Brian Shaw.

01:09:53.000 You've put on 15 pounds-ish?

01:09:56.000 15 to 20.

01:09:57.000 And you've been lifting weights and eating more, and that's been a struggle for you.

01:10:01.000 It's been a really hard struggle, and for the first time ever, I've been really committed to consistency, and I'm seeing some results.

01:10:06.000 It's small and you have to pace yourself.

01:10:11.000 I noticed that.

01:10:11.000 It's definitely noticeable to me, and several people have talked about it.

01:10:16.000 Several people in the comments section, actually. 1.00

01:10:17.000 Now watch, I'm going to call you a fat son of a bitch. 1.00

01:10:19.000 Speaking of foundation, that's an important thing. 1.00

01:10:25.000 What are you doing to put on weight?

01:10:28.000 You're eating?

01:10:28.000 What am I doing?

01:10:29.000 I am eating a ridiculous amount of calories and working out three times a week.

01:10:33.000 Right.

01:10:33.000 Doing... Lifting heavy stuff.

01:10:35.000 Heavy compound lifts.

01:10:36.000 Heavy compound lifts.

01:10:37.000 And I really do have this unbelievable privilege, and it's funny that it's turned into a dirty word, but I use this term as it's meant to be used.

01:10:43.000 A privilege to interview Excellent people.

01:10:47.000 Often people who are the best at what they do, period, in the world.

01:10:49.000 So Brian Shaw is the world's strongest man, four times, I think, four or five times Arnold Strongman Classic winner, which is another competition.

01:10:55.000 So he's basically eight times.

01:10:56.000 It's disgusting how strong he is.

01:10:58.000 And one of my favorite interviews I've ever done.

01:11:01.000 And we'll have that, I think, here either next week or the week after.

01:11:04.000 And Boss Rudin, going to be next week, was a UFC champion, King of Pancrase.

01:11:07.000 And so I've had the ability, I've had the luxury, the privilege of picking some of these people's brains.

01:11:11.000 and asking them questions. That to me is what fascinates me.

01:11:14.000 I hope that it's something you enjoy as a viewer as opposed to just saying, so you eat a

01:11:17.000 lot of food, we ask those questions too.

01:11:19.000 But there are some really personal questions that I try to ask of these people because I think people

01:11:23.000 want to know. I mean, getting into the mind of someone who's the best at anything, even if it

01:11:27.000 were a soccer player, is fascinating to me. I use that term loosely in that instance.

01:11:31.000 But the foundation Brian Shaw talked about, he said, He said, listen, there's no magic bullet.

01:11:36.000 It's eating an insane amount.

01:11:37.000 I think he eats 12,000 calories a day and lifting heavy things.

01:11:40.000 It's the same thing for him, effectively, as it is for you. 0.95

01:11:40.000 Crazy. 0.95

01:11:44.000 Now, you're never going to be 6 foot 8, 440 pounds, but you're still bigger than you were before.

01:11:49.000 With a 1,000 pound deadlift.

01:11:53.000 And your squat is like 960 something.

01:11:55.000 And asking a lot of these people, this is one thing, and we get a lot of emails to this effect, hey, I want to go into either Comedy or I want to go into podcasting.

01:12:04.000 How do we do this?

01:12:05.000 And listen, there are plenty of other people who are more successful who could give you great advice as well.

01:12:09.000 But I can say this and speaking with people who are the best.

01:12:11.000 So Brian Shaw is a great example.

01:12:12.000 It just echoed what we've always heard.

01:12:13.000 It starts with a moment.

01:12:16.000 Where he said, you know what, I realized I can do this when I competed in my first.

01:12:21.000 He was a very small, 330 pounds back then.

01:12:25.000 I said, I realized that I could do it.

01:12:27.000 And I thought, OK, I can compete with the best of them.

01:12:31.000 And then it comes down to, and then it comes down to all the other stuff.

01:12:34.000 So there's a really, there's the same trend.

01:12:36.000 Same thing with Boss Rutan.

01:12:37.000 Boss Rutan started out doing karate.

01:12:38.000 And then he had a few competitions.

01:12:38.000 He was bullied as a kid.

01:12:40.000 And he's talked about that.

01:12:41.000 We've got George St-Pierre on the show, where they had a moment, that flash of genius moment, Where you realize, okay, you believe in yourself.

01:12:48.000 That you think you can do this.

01:12:49.000 And that's what I've talked about in the past.

01:12:50.000 You can go back to previous shows.

01:12:51.000 Find what you're good at.

01:12:52.000 Everyone is excellent at something.

01:12:55.000 You just need to find what it is.

01:12:56.000 In Brian Shaw's case, it's pretty clear.

01:12:58.000 It's plain to see.

01:12:59.000 It might take you a little while.

01:13:01.000 But everyone who's very successful at a high level, I've noticed on this show, the trend is there's that moment of they believe in themselves.

01:13:08.000 And that's an exciting moment.

01:13:10.000 I can say that we've had that with this show.

01:13:12.000 We're like, you know what, we can do this, and we can do this really well, and people will really enjoy this.

01:13:15.000 Remember we set out, we didn't know if we were going to make a show that anyone wanted.

01:13:18.000 So there's a moment, and that's exciting, that's a really exciting moment.

01:13:20.000 And a lot of people aren't fortunate enough to experience that.

01:13:25.000 But then, what's not so exciting is what comes after that.

01:13:28.000 And it's the same thing with every successful person you see.

01:13:32.000 It's the unsuccessful in-betweens.

01:13:34.000 It is the flash of genius moment, the I-believe-in-myself moment, which is earned, followed by long, unsexy, grueling work.

01:13:43.000 So Brian Shaw had a moment where he said, I think I could legitimately, if I do my best here, become the world's strongest man.

01:13:51.000 And then, the answer to that question is, Eating 12,000 calories a day, lifting heavy weights, monitoring my progress, resting, not once, every single day, even when I'm sick, when I travel, being disciplined, bringing the right food.

01:14:06.000 Pierre, when he was on the show, same thing.

01:14:06.000 George St.

01:14:08.000 I realized I could really do this, and then it was...

01:14:11.000 Conditioning.

01:14:12.000 It was doing neurological training.

01:14:14.000 It was doing game planning that I knew my opponents weren't doing.

01:14:17.000 It was learning how to live with my fear.

01:14:19.000 It was lifting weights.

01:14:20.000 It was fighting.

01:14:21.000 It was sparring every day, even when I was injured.

01:14:24.000 Same thing with Boss Rutan.

01:14:25.000 Same thing even if you talk with Ben Shapiro about academic achievements.

01:14:28.000 It could be anything.

01:14:29.000 It could be intellectual.

01:14:29.000 It could be physical.

01:14:30.000 But every single one of them has an answer.

01:14:31.000 Like, this is what I realized about I could do it.

01:14:34.000 And then all of this stuff.

01:14:36.000 And if you're lucky enough to have that moment where you actually believe in yourself, not the lie of self-esteem, but you believe in yourself, you find out what you're great at doing, and that's why I say that's the most important thing you can do to live a life of purpose, if you're fortunate enough to experience that, It could be really discouraging to think.

01:14:50.000 For me, I know it could be years.

01:14:51.000 It'll probably be years before I really reach some of my goals.

01:14:53.000 That's not overnight.

01:14:54.000 That's the opposite of overnight.

01:14:56.000 But here's what I started realizing.

01:14:57.000 between the start and success. It could be really discouraging to think for me

01:15:00.000 I know it could be years, probably years before I really reach some of my

01:15:04.000 goals. That's not overnight, that's the opposite of overnight. But here's what I

01:15:08.000 started realizing, the time's gonna pass anyways. Might as well have something to

01:15:13.000 show for it.

01:15:14.000 Might as well Count of Monte Cristo have a few lines on the wall to show for it!

01:15:18.000 Brian Shaw, I think, has more runner-up titles at World's Strongest Man than anyone in history, I believe.

01:15:24.000 I believe three or four times he was number two.

01:15:28.000 Eddie still, imagine that, right?

01:15:29.000 If you go, I don't get the glory.

01:15:31.000 If you haven't accepted the unsexy in-betweens, if you haven't accepted the grueling stuff that sucks between your, I can do this, and success, you're never going to achieve that success.

01:15:42.000 If he's chasing the glory, if he's chasing the fame, he's going to stop it. 0.88

01:15:45.000 His first number two, let alone his third, his fourth, and then rattled off some wins as the world's strongest freaking man.

01:15:53.000 And I use this as an example because such a great guy, we'll probably do some work on him in the future, and it's so absolute.

01:15:58.000 It's such a world's strongest man, period.

01:16:01.000 Well, do you mean he's got, nope, he's the strongest man, period.

01:16:03.000 Well, do you mean that this person is kind of the best power for, nope, he's the strongest man, period.

01:16:07.000 Okay, how did that happen? 0.53

01:16:09.000 With every single successful person I have noticed, and I've interviewed a lot of them, and it was dawning on me this week, it is a flash of genius moment, I believe in myself, which is earned, and then doing the, actually not just doing the in-betweens, but then there's a decision after that, the acceptance of this is going to suck.

01:16:25.000 The acceptance of the in-betweens, because when those glories, when that glory fades, it's a transit gloria, right?

01:16:29.000 I mean, let's watch Rushmore.

01:16:31.000 When that glory fades, you accepting the grueling work is the most important thing, because then you're gonna do it day in and day out, it's just part of your job.

01:16:38.000 It's just part of your calling.

01:16:39.000 And then it becomes a part of something that you almost enjoy. 0.99

01:16:42.000 People talk about the grind, and you have all these stupid motivational speakers on Twitter, and so, embrace the grind, man! 1.00

01:16:47.000 Go out and crush it! 0.99

01:16:48.000 But, again, they're doing it for the glory, so everyone thinks it's that beautiful snapshot.

01:16:53.000 It's not! 1.00

01:16:54.000 It sucks! 0.99

01:16:55.000 And accepting that, accepting suckiness, accepting pain, I've noticed, once you've figured out what you do well, ironically, accepting crap and pain is that first step towards success. 0.99

01:17:09.000 I wish you were more inspirational, but guess what? 0.72

01:17:11.000 If you want to be good at anything, this is going to hurt.

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