On this week's episode of the podcast, the boys discuss the latest in the Mug club saga, including the fallout from a lawsuit brought forward by former NBA player Dennis Rodman. They also discuss public school teachers and whether or not they should be considered sacred cows. And, of course, there's still time for a quiz from Curtdizz!
00:03:44.000And a Mug Club film review and Dennis Rodman.
00:03:47.000Before we move on with the show, question of the day, because we're going to be kind of roasting a sacred cow today, public school teachers.
00:03:54.000Can you name me how many teachers you've had in your life who've had a net positive impact on your life?
00:04:03.000Because that's one thing I think a lot of us don't talk about when we're talking about the teacher, sort of the dialogue, the national conversation.
00:07:37.000So it's not really that surprising, given the other games the department banned, including Rock, Paper, Scissors, Red Rover, and Duck, Duck, Jew, because of the diversity they've had.
00:07:46.000And it turns out, by the way, people have been suspended for hand gestures before.
00:08:01.000It's like yelling fire in a crowded theater.
00:08:04.000It's more the action that goes with it.
00:08:06.000Here's the thing, best case scenario, if they really were fired for a white power, as they call it in the article, a white power gesture, the Black Power Fizz is literally part of the Twitter-branded Black Lives Matter hashtag.
00:08:18.000So, I don't want to be the guy who points out blatant hypocrisy, but I kind of want to be the guy who points out blatant hypocrisy.
00:08:21.000Well, I do think there's a different connotation with black power and white power.
00:08:56.000And by the way, it gets so much worse.
00:08:58.000But if you read the article, in the man's defense, he was actually yelling at the Popeyes across the street, which when you take into context where Anna immediately went afterwards to the family meal and two Diet Cokes.
00:09:09.000Makes a lot more sense now, actually, to me.
00:09:11.000Big Pharma actually suppresses the fact that two Diet Cokes actually cancels out the carbs.
00:09:38.000Here's something else too, a lot of people, listen, there's a huge difference, we're talking about this, between fat pride and slightly overweight women.
00:10:49.000When she goes out in public, poses in a bikini, and people actually are into it, and she said that creeped her out more than being fat-shamed?
00:11:53.000The New York Times, by the way, is right now reporting that Donald Trump was shown intel
00:11:55.000illustrating that Putin directly ordered cyber attacks in 2016.
00:11:59.000The New York Times said it, so you know it's good.
00:12:01.000So Trump took to Twitter this morning, of course it was fake news, and he said they were trying to quote, so recklessly, hard, and hate the fact that I'll probably have a good relationship with Putin.
00:12:32.000But here to speak about that more, he's been pretty passionate, he's been on shows and you've seen his political ads, former chief White House ethics lawyer and now candidate for Senate in Minnesota, Richard Painter.
00:14:56.000We apologize to our viewers and wish only the best for Senator, perhaps Senator Painter.
00:15:01.000I hope he finds what he's looking for.
00:15:03.000Okay, moving on with other things that'll be wildly unpopular.
00:15:07.000You know, we've offended all the... You know what the truth is?
00:15:09.000We actually get a lot of emails from people and comments of women going like, yeah, you know, I'm slightly big and this doesn't offend me at all.
00:16:13.000I'm not saying it's not the most important job, but we'll get to that.
00:16:16.000I think some teachers are underpaid, but I do think that public school teachers in particular have devolved into a professional culture of victimhood and ingratitude.
00:16:23.000This was an article, but it read very much like a Dramatic 2020 special, so that's how we're going to present it.
00:18:14.000Glad you cleared that up for everybody here.
00:18:15.000Also, the title, It's the Only Way, can be substituted with, This is one of a multitude of ways, but I want more money, as well as three months off, so I'm going to do it this way and then bitch about it.
00:18:24.000And then I'm gonna protest when it's really not about the kids, it's about me making more money for working less time than the average American.
00:23:08.000After teachers found out they'd only be getting a 2% raise, they organized en masse, eventually forcing the governor to increase their pay by 5% and pause healthcare price hikes.
00:23:19.000Protests for higher wages quickly spread everywhere from Oklahoma to Colorado.
00:24:18.000Ingratitude closes doors and people, and that's why I say that the tides are shifting right now with a lot of teachers, particularly as you have more private schools, particularly as you have more people doing school online.
00:24:28.000Yeah, there's a lot of competition coming around.
00:24:30.000Not all teachers are great, and we'll get to that in a second.
00:25:47.000Sullins, who has a master's degree and is national board certified, says he earns about $47,000 a year in base pay.
00:25:54.000He can usually bring in about $200 every few days with Lyft, with a Y. Money he uses to help cover auto bills and medical costs for him, And his husband.
00:26:05.000Last year he worked at a religious preschool.
00:26:08.000I don't even know what... I'm just going to finish this up.
00:26:53.000But I've had a lot of, when you average it up, most of you have had somewhere between, in Canada it's a little bit different, I did immersion, so I've had somewhere close to 40 teachers by the time I was in college.
00:27:02.000Most people have somewhere between 25 and 40.
00:28:09.000He stayed after class, and the school board came to him and told him that his grades were too high, so he just took it down by five points next semester so he wouldn't get fired.
00:28:57.000So it was that year, by the way, in the fourth grade, and it was my whole childhood up until Quebec, where midway through that year, I had to be in French immersion.
00:29:05.000And I think I've spoken with you guys about this.
00:29:06.000That's where you do half in English, half in French.
00:29:08.000So I was learning math, history, geography in French, and I fell behind.
00:29:12.000I think they might have thought I was learning disabled.
00:29:14.000I'm not entirely, but the point is, midway through the year, for some reason, all I knew was they switched me to learning English.
00:31:11.000But don't then complain to me that you want three months off and more money.
00:31:15.000And the longer you do it, you know what, you're hurting others.
00:31:17.000Just like the size 25, the size 36 person we were talking about, she hurts the women who are slightly chubbier.
00:31:22.000Because the more you demand that people accept you as perfect, the more you demand that everyone take you for what you are and take it at face value for perfect, the less grace people have for you.
00:31:31.000Teaching is the single most important job in the world.
00:31:34.000Now if you said, listen, I think teaching is an important job, you'd have a lot of grace from people going like, oh yeah, that's an important job.
00:34:53.000So, for people who don't know, I'm not going to lie, there are very few, I've talked about this, people I've met in my life who intimidate me, not just because they can beat the crap out of me, but there's a certain level of fame and notoriety with which I'm no longer comfortable.
00:35:03.000One was when I met Clint Eastwood, and I didn't know what to say, like, I loved you in every which way but loose.
00:35:07.000Yeah, he introduced himself as the Mayor of Carmel.
00:35:08.000Yeah, and he introduced himself as the Mayor of Carmel.
00:35:11.000One was GSP, and our next guest, in case you don't know, Undisputed Light Heavyweight Champion.
00:36:11.000People don't know, captain of the Olympic wrestling team and really, really high hopes for you because you were so high level and you had kidney failure from cutting weight, dialysis.
00:36:47.000You know, man, the crazy thing is, it's like when you When you deal with a lot of these things that I've dealt with, you know, especially the tragedies in life, you can either suck it up or you can say, you know what, my journey's done.
00:36:59.000You know, I knew that the best way to honor all the people that I've lost, especially Caden, was to do something truly, truly special.
00:37:09.000So use it as a motivating factor in my life, and that's what I've done.
00:37:13.000I feel like all the very close calls I had with becoming the best led to that moment on July 7th, or July 9th, when I fought Stipek.
00:37:45.000But, uh, um, you know, we, I doubt myself, you know, I'm like, man, 39 years old, you know, you know what the craziest thing was like before the fight with Stipe being that he was the guy that defended the belt three times and he was the most successful heavyweight champ of all time.
00:38:32.000It was just, and it was just like everybody was saying how hard he hit, right?
00:38:35.000And I'm like, man, I wonder if this dude is going to hit me and I'm going to be like, what in the world is this hitting me?
00:38:41.000It's harder than anything I've ever felt.
00:38:43.000So, you know, we talk about all the same types of questions, but the moment I got into the Octagon, I was like, I could never give this up.
00:38:50.000I can't give this up until it's time for me to give it up.
00:38:53.000But you know, I'm interested in the fact that you mentioned that, you know, anxiety.
00:38:59.000You know, before I take the stage ever, I'm always nervous, and I've always been very jealous of some people who say they're not.
00:39:05.000But you're someone who gets nervous before every fight.
00:39:09.000I think you should embrace that, though.
00:39:11.000You know, because I feel like for you and me, the people that are nervous, it's like this anxiety For me, it's competitive nerves, right?
00:39:21.000Like, I'm excited about the opportunity to compete and test myself and challenge myself, but not knowing what the outcome is gonna be makes me on alert.
00:39:31.000And I feel like the times that I'm not like that is when I'm gonna lose a fight.
00:39:35.000And I feel the same way with you, right?
00:39:36.000Like, if you're going onto a stage, you know you have a job to do.
00:39:40.000You know you have a message to get across.
00:39:42.000And it's like, if I don't present my message in a good, strong way, This can go sideways very quickly.
00:41:03.000But when he went to that underhook, Um, I limped to get my underhook, because time and time again, early in the fight, I tried to uppercut him, right?
00:42:08.000How does it feel at this moment in time to know that you are virtually 100% certain there is no man walking the globe who could defeat you in unarmed hand-to-hand combat at this moment in time?
00:42:19.000You know they say the heavyweight champion is the baddest man on the planet and I'm the UFC heavyweight champion so it's a good feeling whenever you accomplish things that you look forward to your entire career.
00:42:31.000I've come up short before so to accomplish that goal and beat a guy that was so Well thought of.
00:43:15.000Well, okay, let me get more specific because it's a very gracious answer.
00:43:19.000Josh Barnett, to me, we can bring up this clip, I don't think you can see it right now, but one of the most amazing moments in all of fighting, you throwing Josh Barnett, and I know you have a lot of love for him, so I don't say this to at all denigrate the guy, like a small child.
00:43:32.000And for those who don't know watching, Josh Barnett is a tremendous wrestler who could throw any of us like a small child.
00:43:39.000When you're fighting one of the top, UFC champion himself, one of the best wrestlers around, and the discrepancy is so huge between you and someone like that in this fight, does that confidence carry into the next fight or is it still back to point zero and you have those doubts and that anxiety?
00:48:09.000It's not false humility, but gratitude to people who helped you do that.
00:48:12.000And we're talking a lot about masculinity, this idea of toxic masculinity today.
00:48:16.000I think you're a good example so people can understand that there's a balance between gratitude and also being real in looking yourself in the mirror.
00:48:24.000And not to stay on a sore spot, but this is the final question I do want to ask on that man.
00:48:30.000You've beaten every man you've ever fought, obviously, soundly, not named John Jones, and then he pissed so many times hot, he was melting USADA cups like they looked at the Ark of the Covenant, right?
00:48:40.000Is this still something that it's a rematch that you want and do you even think it would ever be possible given how much trouble in the suspensions he's been into?
00:48:48.000You know, our business is a partnership, right?
00:48:51.000Because as two guys that have to fight, we have to promote the fight.
00:50:10.000You know, and this is what, this was my nickname when I first started fighting at Oklahoma State was, uh, Zach Esposito is the assistant coach at Oklahoma State.
00:50:20.000When I would go in there and hit pads with my cousin, uh, he, they called me the Kung Fu Panda.
00:50:24.000And I was like, the moment I could change that, I changed it.
00:50:28.000The moment I... everybody else... was called... DC, DC... I can change that. I'm changing it.
00:50:40.000I don't know. I think Kung Fu Panda's got a nice ring to it.
00:50:43.000And I hate to tell you this, but a lot of people watch this show and you might get a few
00:50:48.000people now saying that Kung Fu Panda, but in a nice way.
00:50:52.000I tell you what, it's a lot better than self-given nicknames like The Dentist, The Skull Crusher, I'll take it over that, but still, I think we can do a little better.
00:51:03.000Could you imagine Bruce Buffer, Daniel?
00:53:03.000We'd do it, instead of just the clips, because, like we said, YouTube isn't paying the bills.
00:53:06.000You don't have to join if you don't want to, but this is what allows us to go out there, go on location, do the daily show, confront people who are dishonest about journalism, do Change My Mind.
00:53:17.000It's all put together by you, the Mug Club members, and it's also why we don't have so many commercials for all of the weird sponsorships that you hear across a lot of podcasts.
00:53:26.000I mean, how many different containers do you need?
00:54:47.000Not Gay Jared is on the show tomorrow night, which is exciting because I was interviewing homeless people on the street the other day and they were very excited about you, sir.
00:55:44.000It used to be, I had an old chair, and then they changed manufa- and now it's like there's this thing digging into my back, it's like the princess and the pea, only with, uh, herniated discs.
00:55:53.000Oh, well, you can adjust that thing in the back.
00:55:55.000We're speaking, of course, of the Aeon chair.
00:58:32.000Yeah, this is... And one thing too, Gammon, I know you've talked about this, and obviously people get mad when you discuss it and there's a controversy, but the reality is no one expects all men to be all these things.
00:58:41.000Like you said, they are just good qualities.
00:58:44.000That being said, the left doesn't see strength as a good quality.
00:58:49.000They're goals, and the modern man is a socialist little wimp, and what he does is sit at home all day and be soft, and he's probably the child of a single mom, and he gets a mani and a pedi, and I would say, at least between, you know, millennials and young men today, that's actually the norm.
00:59:06.000The whole, like, strong, red-blooded, I'm tough, I don't cry, Uh, you know, I want to date hot chicks and party.
00:59:25.000Well, I don't even... Listen, obviously, I don't so much care right now.
00:59:28.000There's this pick-up culture, the hot chicks and party, but we are talking about a young generation of men who aren't learning how to be fathers, how to be good husbands, how to be good leaders of their community.
00:59:37.000You know, this is a big... I don't know if you heard Barack Obama's speech recently.
01:00:52.000But the pendulum has swung so far the other way that now it's bullying people who seem too masculine and being ashamed of being male.
01:01:00.000And every time there's a college student answering a question in college, he has to get up and say, Hi, I know I come from a place of privilege and I'm a white male and I'm cisgendered, but I just think that, you know, these qualifiers they have to give.
01:01:12.000So it's become taboo to be a proud male.
01:01:32.000Either the liberals take over and you've got 300 genders and you've got trans prisoners molesting women in jail and all kinds of pedophile fights.
01:01:40.000For people who don't know, this is an actual story that we just covered today.
01:01:45.000Or secondly, you get the opposite and you have the fascists take over, the islamicists, And you have Sharia law, like we're seeing in Luton in England, like we saw in Iran.
01:01:58.000Ladies, I know you don't like it when daddy says it's bedtime and you gotta eat your vegetables, but trust me, at least you have vegetables in a bed.
01:03:01.000We're not doing any of your crazy ideas.
01:03:04.000We're not calling this racist or that racist or bowing to France for climate change and making sure that we keep our carbon footprint as small as possible.
01:03:12.000We're not playing any of your games anymore.
01:03:15.000And that's why the left is so apoplectic.
01:03:17.000That's why Trump derangement syndrome is so huge.
01:03:32.000Well, I think this is kind of a theme today.
01:03:35.000Ingratitude is a really crippling problem, and you see that from the left.
01:03:38.000A good example would be a parent wanting to teach their son, hey, when your dog dies, when grandpa dies, it's okay to cry.
01:03:44.000You want to teach them it's okay for a young man to cry when it's appropriate.
01:03:46.000But then they have a teacher going, no, no, no.
01:03:48.000It's okay to cry whenever, so you can't bestow the grace upon the kid letting him know when it's appropriate, this is okay, because all bets are off!
01:03:56.000From the left, just like, well, hold on a second, daddy will give you a cookie, and the left goes, there should be only cookies on meals all the time!
01:04:03.000And it's, we're importing that culture too, I call them immigrants, where these immigrants come here and they won't shut up about how much this country sucks, and you go, A, You're wrong, and it's way better than yours.
01:04:15.000Like that woman who climbed the Statue of Liberty, she's from the Congo.
01:04:18.000You know what's going on in the Congo?
01:04:20.000I'm not sure I can say it on your show, but soldiers are making children rape their mothers.
01:04:53.000We do have to get going here really soon.
01:04:55.000Not Gay Jared is going to be on Gavin McGinnis' show this weekend at Gavin underscore McGinnis, and people can sign up at CRTV, right Gavin?
01:05:30.000It is said that tall fences make friendly neighbors.
01:05:35.000Unless your neighbor is a squirrel because they can crawl on the fence and they won't chase them but they can stay up on the fence and those guys are dorks.
01:07:11.000And man, doing that at 39 years old, that's pretty inspirational.
01:07:14.000One thing I've noticed, it's kind of a funny trend, of all the MMA and UFC fighters you've had on the show, none of them are like jerks off air.
01:07:21.000You think those are the most toxic, patriarchal people on the planet, but they're always just the most down to earth, really nice, Guys you'd feel very comfortable being around.
01:07:32.000They're not the bullies on the playground.
01:07:34.000Well, with the exception of a couple, they were people who were bullied.
01:08:06.000Yeah, or like if you do music for a living, the last thing you want to do is go home and just fiddle around for your own pleasure.
01:08:11.000Well, no, I don't mean it in that way.
01:08:12.000I mean in the sense that they've expended all of their egotistical energy in the gym, getting their asses kicked by other people who are better than them, knowing their role, that by the time they come home, all that ego is out of them.
01:09:16.000He means it, and he's not saying, well, you know, I'm okay.
01:09:19.000No, no, he's like, I'm the baddest man on the planet, but you know what, it's because of these people.
01:09:23.000And that really is, when I talk about gratitude, and I've talked about this a lot, I will tell you, my entire life changes when I'm living in gratitude.
01:09:29.000So when people, a couple of them have been pretty, some tough love at the end of this program.
01:09:33.000It's like, well, can you go back to, okay, here's something that everyone can do, and it will change your life.
01:10:02.000It was across from the Panama bus station in Brossard, next to Checkswing, where there was a guy who looked like the real-life Simpsons comic book.
01:11:20.000They had to, they said, they had to take us back in and return it because we couldn't, they were just the molds, because we couldn't afford the Creepy Crawlers machine.
01:11:27.000Now we had some periods in our life where we did really well and we had some periods of life when I look back that, you know, my parents struggled and I didn't maybe understand it or fully appreciate it.
01:11:36.000This would have been one of those times.
01:11:38.000And I remember going back in and being a brat, being upset, can't we get the, listen, if they could have gotten me the Creepy Crawlers, I'm sure they would have.
01:12:42.000And if, just because, if we'd have had our way, if we'd have had what we deserved, We would have never experienced a toilet that ended up being creepy crawlers, came and went, and that wiener dog was in the house until my brother went to college, I believe.
01:13:04.000What if they were willing to give you 8%?
01:13:07.000Do you think they're more likely or less likely to help you?
01:13:10.000When you have an attitude that is ungrateful, I will tell you this all the time, how often have you had friends or family who you help out because you want to?
01:13:19.000I think we actually know, we've talked about this, but then you have the friend, the family member, who always wants something from you.
01:13:27.000You're probably giving him less than the people who aren't asking it.
01:13:31.000Yeah, it's not about justice at that point, it's just the natural reaction of your heart inside that says, like, well, you just gotta close that door a little bit.
01:13:39.000And the point with grace, if you want to receive grace, and we learn this as Christians, right?
01:13:43.000If you want to receive grace, you have to be grateful, first off.
01:15:54.000That's what my grandfather did with me.
01:15:55.000He couldn't stand other kids, because they wouldn't drink the scotch, because they were not grateful for the fine liquor that my grandpapa Armand, on my maternal side, would bestow upon me.