Ben Shapiro, Jim Norton, and Bill Richman join me on the show to talk about the recent YouTube ban on Info Wars and the implications for the future of the entire internet. We also talk about a new segment called "The Wine of the Day" and the wine of the day is the classic classic, "Wine and Omega."
00:03:58.000Listen, I understand InfoWars, that people have certain opinions, but the slippery slope argument is a valid argument when they just claim hate speech.
00:05:13.000So, lead story, before we get to that, and we're going to talk about Alexandria something something Cortez, the latest in the line of Bernie Sanders socialists.
00:05:20.000But first, in the news, Nancy Pelosi has said that if you vote for Democrats, it will give, quote, leverage, she actually said this, to illegal aliens, in her words.
00:05:29.000We believe that we will have leverage when we win in November.
00:05:36.000Because it gives leverage to every family, to every mom who courageously brought her across the desert to escape death, rape, gang violence and
00:06:02.000It's exactly one of those situations where she, what she said, it's like everyone else is saying the same thing, but with a totally different tone.
00:06:07.000It's like, it'll give leverage to illegal immigrants.
00:06:32.000If you vote for George Bush, I'll be really mad, you guys!
00:06:36.000I'm just happy that they're not pretending anymore, because usually when you say, like, well, you just want the illegal voters, it's like, oh, you're being a xenophobe and a racist and five other isms and two issues.
00:06:46.000Look, Nancy Pelosi, the greatest Democrat leader who has ever lived, for people who do what we do for a living, she even just says so.
00:06:54.000I feel like there's a moderator like, oh, you just want to get an illegal vote!
00:06:57.000And the moderator's like, Nancy, your response?
00:07:29.000And unfortunately, actually, we had to just sort of embalm this story in a way that was more palatable because he actually died before he was done shaving.
00:08:59.000I can't remember—I watched— It was so uncomfortable.
00:09:02.000There was a segment where Joe Rogan was talking about, like, people wanting to retroactively change art, which we'll actually talk about with Jim Norton.
00:09:08.000He's like, yeah, if there were, like, a modern Italian, like, hey, let's take the Mona Lisa, let me give her some big tits and push them together.
00:09:14.000And McCulloch was like, right, and fix her eyebrows.
00:09:21.000The most surprising part to me was that he said that was the first time he ever had a colonoscopy recently, though I guess if you get a colonoscopy on Neverland Ranch, it's not.
00:09:29.000This is the first doctor that's ever given him one.
00:09:46.000It's actually in response to criticism that many of the films acknowledged by the Oscars don't, they said, do not reflect the viewing public.
00:09:53.000So now they're creating an awards category for, and there's certain parameters that have to be considered popular films.
00:10:35.000The thing that was funny though, just because nothing's ever woke enough, the New York Times had an editorial that this is bad news for Black Panther because people were assuming it was going to win the normal Oscar.
00:10:48.000This is going to become the Almost Oscars, right?
00:11:14.000So, according to police, Alex Stevens and Brian Sebring became involved in an argument that led Sebring to Stevens' home, and he brought his Glock semi-automatic pistol, shot him.
00:11:22.000Though, this is the problem if we talk about the polarization on social media.
00:11:26.000Though, in the spirit of providing full context, it should be noted that Stevens was vice chairman of the shoot-me-in-the-ass-literally-I-dare-you party.
00:11:36.000How does this pair with Obama's lean-forward party there?
00:11:40.000It almost seems like you're asking for it when you j- It almost seems like that party serves no other political purpose.
00:12:21.000How much money have you spent on figuring this out?
00:12:24.000So in non-surprising news, according to her, America no longer has the upper middle class.
00:12:32.000I think we have the overlay there, right, Brodigan, of what she said.
00:12:34.000She said there's no more middle class in the United States.
00:12:36.000She's given a couple of interviews lately, but this is actually something more specific where she refers to Again, she's trying to paint a mental picture.
00:12:44.000She's taking the mantle from Bernie Sanders.
00:14:41.000But the annoying thing is, especially now that Democrat Socialists are basically the left's tea party, you're gonna see a bunch of these candidates.
00:14:49.000If you've ever been to a bar in New York City and had a conversation with Any of them?
00:14:54.000Alexandria Nina Pinto the Santa Maria Cortez she's literally she's literally
00:15:06.000And she's going to be in Congress now.
00:15:08.000And then later you find out that she was busted from Burlington.
00:15:10.000Didn't the entire 20th century pretty much put to bed the fact that socialism sucks and kills millions and millions and millions of people?
00:15:34.000Steadily risen along with the median income, yes, when adjusted for inflation.
00:15:38.000So even in her examples, they have more cars and they have more money.
00:15:41.000And by the way, when you look at things that she didn't bring up, which is what we talk about a lot as free enterprise advocates, and you can comment, I'd love to hear from you, with advancements in technology, things like, okay, think of plasma screen cell phones now, smartphones.
00:15:52.000Again, 90s, you go back, it was still just a cell phone, a cellular phone.
00:16:36.000Food more expensive when it all has to be local and organic and has to go through everything and single thing possible that the business progress has made over the years so that people can get fed.
00:16:45.000That's actually the opposite of what she wants to do.
00:16:47.000Especially try sticking a paper straw in a coconut.
00:17:06.000And here's the thing, they'd be even cheaper if we didn't price fix.
00:17:09.000So, for example, in Michigan, because the Great Lakes, record highs in a lot of them, and actually one of the best crop years ever, the last few years.
00:17:17.000You know this, Michigan's a very persnickety crop, so they need, it's not extreme cold or extreme hot, they need a very long, moderate, slow-thawing winter, and they've had the best in years.
00:17:56.000Whatever goal they have, they don't achieve it.
00:17:58.000And they make prices higher for everybody else.
00:18:00.000Well, unless their goal is to make prices higher.
00:18:02.000With price fixing, it's clear that they want to make it higher, and then they want to complain about higher prices.
00:18:05.000By the way, if we're talking about where the middle class is getting reamed on prices, at least as far as 2016 and 2017 is concerned, America has actually spent more money on taxes than food and clothing combined!
00:18:14.000Coming from your labor statistics, Ms.
00:20:38.000By the way, we have the numbers, it's currently actually the number of, I think, job holders is about 7 million compared to more than 148 million Americans who are employed in a single job.
00:22:42.000We need stronger champions, but I don't think that they see exactly how rising income inequality has resulted in a very stark political reality.
00:22:55.000Um, this is one thing we've talked- and a lot of people- we've talked about this quite a bit on the show, Nakajit, going back to when we were in the- basically in the AM radio days.
00:24:05.000Anytime you have somebody who creates goods or services that benefit the rest of society, that gap is going to widen.
00:24:11.000Kind of like anytime Wayne Gretzky went to go play for a hockey team, guess what?
00:24:15.000The gap between his scoring and the rest of the players, it was always wider than before Wayne Gretzky arrived on the team, but everybody else played better.
00:24:22.000Were they so off for Wayne Gretzky being on the team?
00:24:37.000And this is why, because I know we had a lot of Bernie bros who sort of jumped to Donald Trump, and we have a lot of people who were formerly sort of socialists who got on board with the anti-SJW bandwagon.
00:24:45.000I want to hear where you guys are right now with this Cortez business, if maybe your eyes have been opened.
00:24:50.000Not quite as widely as hers, but you understand where I'm coming from.
00:25:19.000No, she doesn't understand economics, because not only can that pie grow, as we've talked about, but as conservatives, we've talked about this, due to human ingenuity in a free enterprise system, we can bake more pies!
00:28:36.000Speaking of humblebrag, you're still on the YouTube, I'm still on the YouTube, but all over the news this week, listen, you have no love lost, I don't think it's any secret for Alex Jones, InfoWars, you're not a big fan, but what's your opinion this week on the unilateral action kind of taken against the channels across the board?
00:28:53.000I mean, I have to admit that every time I talk about Alex Jones, I just want to rip off my jacket and go crazy into supplements!
00:28:59.000But aside from that, I'm not a big fan.
00:29:02.000He suggested that I'm an atheist and that he would send people to the homes of some of the funders of the Daily Wire.
00:29:10.000And also that Satan should get behind him as he attacked me and he was going to get in my business.
00:29:15.000So yeah, Alex Jones and I are not the best of friends, but the fact that... I think that Ben is taking hallucinogenic mushrooms again, people.
00:29:22.000Like Moses with the burning bush, if you listen to the same people online.
00:30:15.000I learned that because I was watching a special, I remember, with my friend in New York City, and it was this whole special on ganishes in Manhattan, and we just said, you know what, we've never had a ganish, and we went and we had it, and I gotta tell ya, It's all right.
00:30:44.000I think that he's a steaming pile of human dung.
00:30:46.000But the fact that Alex Jones is being banned by all of these various tech companies for Bad reasons is really a problem.
00:30:54.000So if they had said, listen, we're not going to allow people on our platform who libel or who slander or who engage in widespread conspiracy theories.
00:31:04.000If they were to do that, that at least is some sort of objective standard that I guess that you could maybe hold to.
00:31:09.000But what you can't do is just say hate speech and then ban things.
00:31:12.000I mean, you can because you're a private company, but it sets a really bad standard because I mean, Steven, you know, I know, we all know, anybody on the conservative right knows that half the stuff that we say that is just basic fact is now construed as hate speech by folks on the left.
00:31:25.000If I say a man is a man and a woman is a woman, I have to have 600 police officers to protect me in Berkeley, and people are calling it hate speech.
00:31:31.000So I'm not comfortable with all of these tech companies using the category of hate speech to ban Alex Jones, even though, if I've not made clear, I think that Alex Jones is a dumpster fireman.
00:31:41.000Doers for fire! I think I know where you're coming from with that.
00:31:56.000You know, you Jews are tight-fisted with a dollar.
00:31:59.000No, it really is one of those deals where it didn't make any sense to me because I know his son has been a supporter and so I've always tried to be amicable with as many people as possible.
00:32:08.000And I'll go on shows whose views differ greatly from mine.
00:32:16.000I'm a lawyer and I did think there's a Sandy Hook angle if they would have if they'd have spoken about this because you know there's a lawsuit coming and you know Sandy Hook they're going to win and apparently Alex said that he might counter sue the Sandy Hook people and I was thinking maybe if you two were to say we do not want the legal liability of allowing this to play out on our platform but again it's not they spoke about hate speech or even if they just suggested which was the the specific line that he crossed if they just said you're not allowed to call Sandy Hook victims child actors right then it's like okay All right.
00:32:54.000Like, then you can't do the, first they came for Alex Jones because he called the children of Sandy Hook child actors.
00:32:59.000And then they came because nobody else called them child actors.
00:33:02.000So there's no next step to the slippery slope.
00:33:05.000When you say first, they came for Alex Jones because of hate speech.
00:33:08.000And then you're like, well, yeah, but they can expand that definition to encompass Pretty much anything.
00:33:12.000So yeah, it's... And they're not consistent in applying it.
00:33:15.000The coordinated hit of it was also a serious problem.
00:33:16.000Like, it wasn't just one outlet decided, okay, we're gonna do this, and then three months later, another outlet decided to do it.
00:33:21.000It was all of a sudden, all of them decided at once, which looks a hell of a lot like collusion.
00:33:25.000It looks like all these people are calling each other up.
00:33:27.000Now let me ask you this, as a lawyer, what amount of evidence is needed if you're going to bring up collusion as an argument?
00:33:32.000I mean at that point, what are the statistical odds of Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, Facebook, or maybe it wasn't iTunes?
00:33:38.000I think it was Apple, I'm not sure iTunes, it was Facebook, it was YouTube, and Spotify.
00:33:49.000All of them did it within a day of each other.
00:33:51.000I think that there may be a monopoly argument there.
00:33:55.000I mean, there may be a restraint of train argument there.
00:33:57.000But this, I mean, honestly, I'm not going to speak outside my domain of constitutional law.
00:34:01.000No, but that would lend itself to the argument of, you know, of it being effectively these major platforms.
00:34:06.000Some conservatives have argued and for a long time I've said, no, I don't agree about them being public utilities if it acts as a monopoly.
00:34:12.000And like I said, in this case, this is pretty clear that it acted certainly as a monolith.
00:34:16.000They all acted in unison, which is very bizarre.
00:34:19.000Yeah, and what's weird is you have all these people who are out there saying, so this is the part that drives me crazy.
00:34:23.000People say, so why are you defending Alex Jones?
00:34:25.000It's like, again, I'm not defending Alex Jones.
00:34:27.000I'm defending the principle that you can't just call things hate speech and then ban them because they're quote-unquote hate speech.
00:34:32.000That's not an actual category of speech.
00:35:10.000Like, every single person is outside the Overton window, and you're left with a monolith of leftist opinion that is inside the Overton window, plus David Frum, Anna Navarro, and Max Boot, right?
00:35:22.000As long as David Frum and Max Boot end up being as anti-Trump as they are right now, then we will sort of give them this strange new respect where they get to talk.
00:35:30.000But if you are remotely conservative, even if you don't like Trump, Then you are considered outside the realm of acceptable discourse.
00:35:35.000And of course, you know, I experienced that when I single-handedly destroyed the MCU just by sitting here a couple of weeks ago after that whole Mark Duplass thing, where it was like, Mark Duplass, that indie director, tweets out something remotely nice about me.
00:35:46.000Ben, you don't need to describe Mark Duplass to me.
00:36:42.000But here's the thing with David, right?
00:36:43.000Like, I'm good friends with David French.
00:36:45.000And these people won't accept David French either.
00:36:47.000Like, I happen to know that these people will not accept David French.
00:36:49.000Like, I talk to David a lot, and the reality is that anyone who is remote... Like, David holds views that are the same as yours and mine as far as transgenderism, that you can't magically change your gender.
00:37:33.000Like Barry Weiss, who is also very, very anti-Trump.
00:37:36.000Like she's been, like there's no way she gets hired now.
00:37:39.000Like, a year ago she got hired, and that was basically the last person through the door, because there's no way they're gonna hire anybody even as quasi-right-wing as Barry Weiss, who is not a hardcore right-winger.
00:37:49.000Especially not if they're named after a seasonal Lennon-Kugel's beer, though it is delicious.
00:37:53.000I do understand where you're coming from on all of this, but yeah, I was really sorry to see Mark Duplass do that with you.
00:37:58.000I thought you were kind of the last go-around.
00:38:00.000After he had turned down our show, I was going, All right.
00:38:02.000Well, maybe because, you know, we have, we've had Tranny Bain and obviously with comedy, it's a little more edgy.
00:38:06.000I thought, well, maybe Ben Shapiro will have a crack at it.
00:38:09.000The fact that I've become the, the fact that, you know, for a while there, I was sort of the outer limit and now I'm outside the outer limit and they just keep moving the limits in.
00:38:15.000And so this is why I say like, if you can't have a conversation with you or with me, or even with like David French, like who has left?
00:38:23.000They can't have a, like Stephen Colbert labeled Jonah Goldberg a trumper on national television.
00:38:28.000How insane do you have to be to have crammed the size of acceptable opinion into a thimble?
00:38:36.000I mean, every acceptable opinion can fit in the palm of their hand.
00:38:39.000And that's what's so scary about the YouTube and InfoWars is because they say, well, they're outside of this thimble, but everybody is absolutely outside of this this thimble.
00:38:46.000That being said, I do think there's a silver lining.
00:38:49.000Do you think this will be self-correcting a little bit with the market, with YouTube and Facebook?
00:38:52.000I think they're acting in unison, but they can't do it for very long without pissing off half their user base.
00:38:58.000And I think that what you're going to start seeing is more and more people, you know, at least building up as a side business, a subscriber model like you have, or like we have, people saying, listen, we're not going to, we're not going to be subject to YouTube demonetizing us and YouTube destroying our viewer base.
00:39:12.000You want to come watch our stuff, come watch our stuff, right?
00:39:14.000And I think that you're going to see the media fragment YouTube and Facebook and a lot of these other social media sites, one of the fascinating things is that they arose in opposition to a controlled media infrastructure where you only had three channels and that controlled what you could watch.
00:39:28.000And then they came along and they said, well, you can post anything here, right?
00:39:30.000And then it was like, wow, this is great.
00:39:32.000I can get whatever video I want on demand at any time.
00:40:01.000doing that. It was Asians at Zanga and then the horny emo kids took it over and
00:40:04.000then it became basically like it like the it became a whorehouse like MySpace.
00:40:09.000It's tumbleweeds and prostitutes. That's what MySpace became and that paved the
00:40:12.000way for Facebook. Let me final final question on this. You have your areas of expertise.
00:40:17.000I do have my areas of expertise. So this is a this I do think this is important for people to understand.
00:40:25.000Like you said, it's important to see someone like you who disagrees a lot with Alex Jones because people are going, well you can feud ideologically and still understand that there's a real problem at play here.
00:40:37.000Did you guys get the email from YouTube on their new copyright policies now?
00:40:41.000I know, I haven't seen that one yet, but I can check with our social media team.
00:40:44.000Well, because it used to be YouTube was one of the few places that respected fair use a little bit more, and now it seems as though they're opening the window to anything critical.
00:40:51.000For example, a rebuttal to Vox or a rebuttal to Chris Cuomo might not be fair use.
00:40:56.000They might actually allow copyright claim IDs against those.
00:41:00.000The wording is always, as you know, very vague, very broad, but it seems like that's where they're moving.
00:41:04.000And I think if they do that, they're done.
00:41:05.000That's a real problem, especially because fair use is obviously a defense.
00:41:13.000So when you put something up, their first goal is going to be to take everything down, and then it takes you a week to put it back up, saying, no, this is fair use, and they have to reanalyze it.
00:41:22.000So if they start cracking down on that stuff more harshly, it's going to be a serious problem.
00:41:25.000It's going to be a serious problem, but I think it's the kind of problem that will cause mass exodus.
00:41:28.000I do want people to understand this, and I know you can confirm this as a lawyer.
00:41:31.000There is the law, for example, single-party consent states.
00:41:35.000So even though it's fair use, legally you can do it, YouTube, they say, well, hold on a second, we're not going to abide by the single-party consent law.
00:41:41.000You have to have a written release form at a public protest, even though this person is committing a crime in a public space, and you don't need to.
00:41:47.000The law says no, YouTube says yes, and that's the problem with the fair use, the copyright, the content claim IDs.
00:42:35.000You know, I don't think they do so... They would acclimate to the temperature very well.
00:42:38.000I mean, you know, the reason you haven't found them is they see this giant Canadian who's, you know, trying to figure out whether they're properly using the word knish.
00:44:20.000I hope this clarifies the issue for you, though considering this is the internet, you probably forgot half of what I said and will send me a letter anyways asking the same question in a week.
00:45:25.000So whenever comedians love the club owner, it's a good place, because usually comedians look at club owners the way you look at a guard at Dachau.
00:45:32.000So I'm kind of happy to be finally going there.
00:47:06.000And it was kind of tough because it was such a big feeling room.
00:47:10.000Anyway, because I did something in Watertown, New York, back with Louis Ramey, and then I was at the Pittsburgh Funny Bone, and I had no money, so I had to stay in a motel because I was middling.
00:47:20.000Then for Greg Morton at Hilarities in Cleveland, and everyone's saying, it's an amazing club, because they put us in a hotel at that point that did not suck.
00:51:28.000Um, I liked the fact that she talked about really hard subjects.
00:51:32.000Like, you know, anytime somebody is talking about being raped or, uh, you know, uh, being gang called a man, all this stuff that messed her up.
00:51:39.000And then she does this whole thing on art.
00:51:41.000Like I've never heard anybody talk about contemporary art or the way artists were perceived as sex or whatever.
00:51:48.000So at least it was very, very original.
00:51:51.000Um, so I liked it, but at the end when it kind of became a Ted talk, I didn't think she needed to do that.
00:52:26.000He talked about racism in America and he always kept it funny.
00:52:31.000And that to me is kind of what gives comedians the ability or the right to talk about this stuff
00:52:37.000because people want to hear it and be able to laugh about it.
00:52:39.000It's also really hard and that's why I wanted to get your take because we've talked about it with
00:52:43.000Nick DiPaolo who was on recently and I think he's going to be a third chair here in the coming weeks
00:52:46.000in studio with us because you deal with a lot of these issues that are pretty rough too and
00:52:49.000you've caught some flack sometimes for it.
00:52:52.000But it's a lot harder to come out and take that pain, because that's what comedy is, and turn it into something funny, than it is to sermonize.
00:52:59.000And so, that's where, for me, the problem was when the media tried to really prop this up and prop up the sermonization, which was the least interesting part of the special.
00:53:09.000Because here's the thing, a lot of people talk about modern art and postmodernism.
00:53:12.000It's like Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro on this show.
00:53:14.000Just not in comedy, because a lot of these people aren't able to turn it into something funny.
00:53:18.000That was my issue with it, and that was the second half.
00:53:23.000Because I was enjoying... I love watching somebody talk about that really hard subject matter.
00:53:29.000But I don't believe that you can't make it funny, and I don't believe joking about it, if you joke about it the right way, or a way that you feel good about, is ever selling yourself out.
00:53:39.000If you're doing self-deprecation, well then find another way to tell your story.
00:53:45.000Maybe because I went in with negative expectations, but people were like, it's not stand-up!
00:53:50.000I had a comedian tell me that, and I'm watching for like 40 minutes, I'm like, she's a legit comic!
00:53:53.000I mean, whether people like it or not, she's doing punchlines, she's doing stuff, She's telling a story about her life, and then she went at the end and told the real stuff.
00:54:01.000I hate to disagree with you, but I think it was like a 20-minute set with an hour of something special.
00:54:08.000Because the punchline was the first portion, but then it really stood out because there was a long gap with no comedy there.
00:54:14.000I thought that was like the last 15 minutes.
00:54:19.000I forget what she took that got to that.
00:54:21.000I don't remember what she did before, but I know because I was talking to Sam, my co-host, And I said to her, it was at about 40 minutes, I'm like, it feels very like just a legit stand up.
00:55:19.000So to me, like, that's how a guy who tells a very sad truth does it as a brilliant comic.
00:55:24.000I'm not going to believe that just because I've said it enough times on this show when quoting other people that I don't want to be Papa John's, so you're my collateral.
00:55:31.000So I'll be like, look, Jim Norton said it on my show, too.
00:55:33.000With that record, with Richard Pryor, with the name of his albums, I understand the backlash against certain words, especially that word, but I'm not qualified To edit or change what that genius called his record.
00:55:49.000That's what he chose to call it, and that's the name of the record.
00:55:52.000But the final bit, which is the title track... Hold on a second.
00:55:56.000That's really insightful, what you just said.
00:55:57.000I think a lot of people don't realize what they're watching sometimes when, obviously when we have an interview with you, but the more I listen to you, that's a very insightful way of putting it.
00:56:05.000If people are listening, if they have ears to hear, you don't have the right to edit Pryor's material.
00:56:11.000He wanted it that way, and some rich white guy in Greenwich Village shouldn't be the one to change that.
00:56:16.000But yeah, you know, I think it's probably with the Hannah Gatsby, if you go in with those expectations, it's kind of like going... I'm trying to think of, like, Keeping Up with the Joneses was a comedy that I watched, and I saw it on an airplane, and I had no expectations.
00:56:48.000This is one thing, though, you know, you talk about a lot of painful issues, obviously, and you certainly get into some controversial issues.
00:56:54.000Doesn't it, this is kind of my issue with not just that special, but this idea now of people policing what we can and can't say.
00:57:00.000That is, and Richard Pryor was a great example, One of the primary purposes of comedy is being able to... I think Phyllis Diller made the quote, and we've talked about this before, it's a rubber-tipped sword, a way to make a point without drawing blood.
00:57:12.000So to condemn the idea... I think it was Phyllis Diller.
00:57:16.000No, I've never heard that, but that's actually good.
00:57:18.000Okay, it's definitely not mine, but I can never remember who said it.
00:57:21.000You tweet me, it has to be out of people who are listening, because I don't want to be accused of plagiarizing something when I clearly tried to attribute the quote.
00:57:26.000You did present it as a quote of somebody else.
00:57:28.000I tried to as best I could but that is a primary purpose of comedy so for the media to jump on board
00:57:34.000and anyone in comedy to suggest otherwise to me is that very kind of slippery slope of someone
00:57:41.000declaring self humiliate self-deprecation is humiliation that's to declare a lot of comedy
00:57:47.000not just your own I don't care what Gatsby thinks of her own stuff but that's to declare I mean
00:57:51.000Brian Regan his whole act is basically self-deprecation right but it's not humiliation
00:57:56.000Right, yeah, and he's great and he's brilliant at it.
00:57:58.000That's when I get, ooh, my antennae go up, when you try to declare someone else's comedy not valid or not acceptable.
00:58:05.000I'm sorry, Steven, yeah, and I agree with you, because I think that she goes wrong when she says self-deprecation is humiliating, because it's not.
00:58:14.000If you're up there and you're fat, and you're just going, look at me, I'm a big fat pig, like, then maybe you're deprecating yourself or humiliating yourself.
00:58:20.000But if you're telling the truth about the way you see things.
00:58:23.000Like I've told the truth about like hating myself or whatever.
01:01:39.000And yes, we talked about it earlier, so we teased it, and it is with a heavy heart that actually, at Not-K-Jared, The character, as it were, will be retired after this program, Nakajiri.
01:01:51.000We'll be moving on to... I guess you say greener pastures.
01:01:56.000People always confuse that with taking behind the barn.
01:01:58.000No, no, greener pastures means good things.
01:02:01.000But let them know, you have some stuff going on.
01:02:03.000Yeah, there is a lovely missus in my life, and a lovely lady, and I will be joined by another lovely lady in just a few short months.
01:03:34.000And then after that, a lot of people started their own conspiracy as to whether you were gay or not, because you kept saying you weren't gay, and we said, okay, well, let's go with this, and the Not Gay Jared character was born, and you had to keep your missus under wraps for a long time.
01:03:46.000I was pretty sure it was under your contract!
01:03:49.000I think a few times on the show I accidentally said something about it.
01:04:06.000But it was back then, it was, you want to talk about sort of providential.
01:04:10.000The day Jared became equipped at producing this as a podcast was the day the station that carried us would no longer carry the show because of some of the jokes that we had made.
01:04:21.000We're like, hey, let's try this video and let's try Thursday night instead of Friday morning at 6am.
01:06:31.000I would say my most memorable, that we would probably, Utah was a big one because we wanted to put bullets in our brains because that was non-stop work, but it was one of the biggest things we'd ever done.
01:06:41.000We almost met up with the Hodgetwins while we were there.
01:06:43.000That's true, but we couldn't because they were doing shows.
01:07:03.000And we didn't have a green screen, so we had to put it down in my living room.
01:07:06.000And we cheated it, where some of the shots you see are green screen, and then some of them were actually shot on the Lansing Capitol steps, which was a far drive for us at the time.
01:07:15.000And while we were taping it, a state senator?
01:07:45.000Yeah, so I'm a little bit nervous because this is not typically the way we do things.
01:07:49.000Those brown ones, I hear those are fun.
01:07:51.000Alright, uh, I'm using a knife here, so if something goes wrong for those who are listening, audio.
01:07:55.000Yeah, apparently, I didn't have any wrapping tape, so I used boxing tape and wrapped... It's very considerate of you, but this is a terrible wrapping.
01:09:04.000Yeah, he's not going to be a complete stranger, and we do... Some college dates or some... all kinds of things I would like to be around for.
01:09:10.000Yeah, I forgot about all the college dates.
01:09:12.000It's great, but it's like, it is just very, very difficult.
01:09:17.000This ain't the Ben Shapiro show, okay?
01:09:20.000It's like you have Tranny Bane coming out, and motor scooters, and smoke machines, and lights, and it's like, oh, we gotta do this again.