Louder with Crowder - #372 A VERY NOTGAYJARED FAREWELL! Ben Shapiro and Jim Norton | Louder With Crowder

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00:03:15.000 Uh, wait, that's right, yeah, don't, thank you, Nakai Jared, for switching to... I forgot, people would think hoppers are...

00:03:21.000 Hot pressure needs another eye surgery out there.

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00:03:23.000 Yeah, it's been a tough week.

00:03:25.000 He has to go and we've been putting this hot compress and then cold compress on the eye, which seems a little counterintuitive.

00:03:30.000 So we have a great show.

00:03:31.000 We have Ben Shapiro on the show.

00:03:33.000 We have Jim Norton on the show.

00:03:36.000 We have in third chair today, Brautigan and my half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richman.

00:03:40.000 How are you, gentlemen?

00:03:41.000 Wonderful.

00:03:42.000 Look at you, you look very good.

00:03:43.000 A lot of people were like the Hodge twins, and apparently Brodigan's also afraid of dogs.

00:03:46.000 Question of the day!

00:03:47.000 What's your thought here on the sudden banning of InfoWars?

00:03:51.000 I think almost every social media platform I know, even Spotify's not really social media.

00:03:55.000 We're going to be talking with Ben Shapiro about this.

00:03:57.000 You think it was justified?

00:03:58.000 Listen, I understand InfoWars, that people have certain opinions, but the slippery slope argument is a valid argument when they just claim hate speech.

00:04:04.000 Right.

00:04:05.000 Yeah.

00:04:05.000 And it's really concerning.

00:04:06.000 So comment below.

00:04:07.000 I want to hear from you.

00:04:08.000 Producing with me in studio for the last time, we'll talk about this later on, is NotGayJared. 0.62

00:04:15.000 You can follow him at NotGayJared.

00:04:17.000 And NotGayJared, yeah, you can tease.

00:04:20.000 Yeah, I have some news I'll be sharing.

00:04:25.000 There you go.

00:04:26.000 It's not so much of a tease.

00:04:27.000 Oh my gosh!

00:04:28.000 It's like, Hint!

00:04:30.000 Bruce Willis is a ghost!

00:04:32.000 Suddenly gets chicks. 1.00

00:04:33.000 He just leans back.

00:04:34.000 So we're going to have a very nice send off for Jared later and kind of take you down a trip down memory lane.

00:04:40.000 But yeah, Not Gay Dad is a big, big part of it.

00:04:43.000 It's true.

00:04:44.000 And we're going to be passing the torch on to some other people who are going to be helping fill your, what is it, size four shoes?

00:04:50.000 I don't know.

00:04:51.000 I have no idea.

00:04:52.000 Five.

00:04:53.000 Don't be insulting.

00:04:54.000 No, we bind feet for you! 1.00

00:04:56.000 He rounds up.

00:04:57.000 Gerald, what's the wine of the day?

00:04:58.000 Wine of the day is Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.

00:05:01.000 I love that sitcom in the 90s.

00:05:03.000 It was good use of puppetry.

00:05:04.000 There was a sitcom called that?

00:05:05.000 Yeah.

00:05:06.000 Alph.

00:05:07.000 Puppetry?

00:05:08.000 Alph, he'd be like, well, out on my planet, we don't eat shrimp!

00:05:11.000 Haha, laugh track!

00:05:13.000 So, lead story, before we get to that, and we're going to talk about Alexandria something something Cortez, the latest in the line of Bernie Sanders socialists.

00:05:20.000 But first, in the news, Nancy Pelosi has said that if you vote for Democrats, it will give, quote, leverage, she actually said this, to illegal aliens, in her words.

00:05:29.000 We believe that we will have leverage when we win in November.

00:05:35.000 And why is that important?

00:05:36.000 Because it gives leverage to every family, to every mom who courageously brought her across the desert to escape death, rape, gang violence and

00:05:47.000 the rest. 1.00

00:05:48.000 You have a way with words, evil bitch. 1.00

00:05:52.000 By the way, her speech was met with resounding applause by the National Association of Latin 1.00

00:05:56.000 So yeah, they were really big.

00:05:57.000 They were happy.

00:05:58.000 It's one of those things where she's like, she's speaking my language.

00:06:01.000 She mean what he's saying?

00:06:02.000 It's exactly one of those situations where she, what she said, it's like everyone else is saying the same thing, but with a totally different tone.

00:06:07.000 It's like, it'll give leverage to illegal immigrants. 0.96

00:06:10.000 That's bad, right?

00:06:11.000 No, no, that's, that's very good.

00:06:12.000 She says it in a good way.

00:06:13.000 He's like, there's been no one in government before who's represent what I think.

00:06:18.000 If you vote for Republican, The terrorists will not feel emboldened.

00:06:21.000 Yes, exactly!

00:06:22.000 And next time she does this, she's gonna show up with a full face tat, just so she can identify. 1.00

00:06:25.000 Do you remember that brought again in Bill, when Osama Bin Laden endorsed John Kerry?

00:06:30.000 Yeah.

00:06:32.000 If you vote for George Bush, I'll be really mad, you guys!

00:06:36.000 I'm just happy that they're not pretending anymore, because usually when you say, like, well, you just want the illegal voters, it's like, oh, you're being a xenophobe and a racist and five other isms and two issues.

00:06:46.000 Look, Nancy Pelosi, the greatest Democrat leader who has ever lived, for people who do what we do for a living, she even just says so.

00:06:54.000 I feel like there's a moderator like, oh, you just want to get an illegal vote!

00:06:57.000 And the moderator's like, Nancy, your response?

00:07:00.000 Jayce?

00:07:01.000 Okay.

00:07:01.000 See?

00:07:02.000 She's with me.

00:07:04.000 Here's another story, by the way, speaking of things that aren't funny.

00:07:07.000 We have this Quebec City man, I apologize, who electrocuted himself while shaving.

00:07:11.000 Don't apologize.

00:07:12.000 Local police received a call after midnight Tuesday about an unconscious man in the apartment building.

00:07:16.000 When they arrived, they noted that the man had suffered burns and he had actually electrocuted himself.

00:07:20.000 So feminists who actually heard the story were quoted as saying, See? 1.00

00:07:23.000 I told you.

00:07:24.000 See?

00:07:25.000 See? 1.00

00:07:26.000 Venus was full of crap! 0.99

00:07:29.000 And unfortunately, actually, we had to just sort of embalm this story in a way that was more palatable because he actually died before he was done shaving. 1.00

00:07:36.000 We have exclusive video.

00:07:38.000 Let us pray in silence.

00:07:42.000 Want to go tree climbing, Thomas J?

00:07:45.000 His face hurts.

00:07:47.000 And where is his glasses?

00:07:48.000 He can't see without his glasses.

00:07:51.000 Put his glasses on!

00:07:53.000 Put on his glasses!

00:08:02.000 For people listening on iTunes, this doesn't seem funny at all.

00:08:06.000 How can they laugh at this?

00:08:09.000 I was like, how are they gonna do that?

00:08:12.000 It's a way to deal with trauma.

00:08:15.000 Stop your car, pull over, and walk.

00:08:17.000 Aaron, who edited that, I saw it when I saw it, I couldn't contain myself.

00:08:22.000 That one really came out of left field for anyone who saw My Girl, don't you remember that?

00:08:26.000 Yeah, I do.

00:08:27.000 Not for me, because I always hated him as an actor.

00:08:30.000 Even that early?

00:08:30.000 Really?

00:08:31.000 Come on! 0.61

00:08:32.000 Like in The Good Son, where it was him and Bilbo Baggins.

00:08:34.000 But that's later on!

00:08:35.000 Yeah, but him and Bilbo Baggins hanging off of a cliff and the mother dropped him.

00:08:38.000 That's true!

00:08:39.000 Elijah Wood was in there!

00:08:41.000 I actually stood up and cheered in the movie theater.

00:08:43.000 Yeah, come on, he was cool in the end.

00:08:44.000 By the way, did anyone actually see Macaulay Culkin on Joe Rogan?

00:08:46.000 That was terrible.

00:08:47.000 No.

00:08:48.000 It was not nearly as sad as I thought it was going to be.

00:08:50.000 No, but it was so painful.

00:08:51.000 You know what was most—it's really uncomfortable whenever this happens, when there's a funny

00:08:54.000 person, Joe Rogan, and then someone else is commenting on the funny but making it less

00:08:58.000 funny.

00:08:59.000 I can't remember—I watched— It was so uncomfortable.

00:09:02.000 There was a segment where Joe Rogan was talking about, like, people wanting to retroactively change art, which we'll actually talk about with Jim Norton.

00:09:07.000 He was talking about the Mona Lisa. 0.98

00:09:08.000 He's like, yeah, if there were, like, a modern Italian, like, hey, let's take the Mona Lisa, let me give her some big tits and push them together. 1.00

00:09:14.000 And McCulloch was like, right, and fix her eyebrows. 0.99

00:09:19.000 You're not adding anything, McCauley.

00:09:21.000 The most surprising part to me was that he said that was the first time he ever had a colonoscopy recently, though I guess if you get a colonoscopy on Neverland Ranch, it's not.

00:09:29.000 This is the first doctor that's ever given him one.

00:09:32.000 Let's just put it that way.

00:09:33.000 It's a fine line between colonoscopy and videography.

00:09:37.000 And voyeuristic.

00:09:39.000 Speaking of more entertainment news, the Oscars now, they introduced a new award for Outstanding Achievement in Popular Film.

00:09:44.000 Yes!

00:09:44.000 This is for me, baby.

00:09:45.000 This is all for me.

00:09:46.000 It's actually in response to criticism that many of the films acknowledged by the Oscars don't, they said, do not reflect the viewing public.

00:09:53.000 So now they're creating an awards category for, and there's certain parameters that have to be considered popular films.

00:09:58.000 This year's recipient, Not DC.

00:10:03.000 They also announced the Kevin Spacey Achievement Award for Excellence in Sex with Boys.

00:10:08.000 Yeah, that's one they were looking forward to.

00:10:10.000 The niche.

00:10:11.000 There's so many candidates in that category.

00:10:12.000 Well, this year's recipient is James Gunn.

00:10:14.000 There's a spoiler alert.

00:10:18.000 You know, Meryl Streep was just sitting at home like, so I...

00:10:20.000 I have to make movies people like?

00:10:23.000 Wait, hold on a second.

00:10:26.000 Half-Asian lawyer, do I have to say allegedly when I just said James Gunn or since it's a photoshoot, am I okay?

00:10:32.000 Yeah, you'll be alright.

00:10:35.000 The thing that was funny though, just because nothing's ever woke enough, the New York Times had an editorial that this is bad news for Black Panther because people were assuming it was going to win the normal Oscar.

00:10:48.000 This is going to become the Almost Oscars, right?

00:10:50.000 We're going to win the CIS Oscars.

00:10:52.000 Alright, and then we're going to get to something something Cortez, Alexandria.

00:10:58.000 How is the middle name?

00:10:59.000 I always get it wrong.

00:11:00.000 I always wanted to say Cassio?

00:11:02.000 Octavius?

00:11:02.000 But usually in that Assassin's, they reserve that for people who try to assassinate other people?

00:11:06.000 But before that, in other news, a Facebook argument actually led to a man shooting another man in the ass. 0.99

00:11:06.000 I have no idea. 0.99

00:11:13.000 Well, why not?

00:11:14.000 So, according to police, Alex Stevens and Brian Sebring became involved in an argument that led Sebring to Stevens' home, and he brought his Glock semi-automatic pistol, shot him.

00:11:22.000 Though, this is the problem if we talk about the polarization on social media.

00:11:26.000 Though, in the spirit of providing full context, it should be noted that Stevens was vice chairman of the shoot-me-in-the-ass-literally-I-dare-you party.

00:11:36.000 How does this pair with Obama's lean-forward party there?

00:11:40.000 It almost seems like you're asking for it when you j- It almost seems like that party serves no other political purpose.

00:11:44.000 Just block him.

00:11:45.000 Glock him. 0.99

00:11:46.000 No, just block him.

00:11:48.000 Oh, not Glock.

00:11:48.000 You know what?

00:11:49.000 Block him. 0.50

00:11:50.000 No. 0.92

00:11:50.000 Let's just be safe and poke him. 0.92

00:11:51.000 Doesn't exist anymore.

00:11:52.000 Poke him anyway.

00:11:53.000 Facebook's in.

00:11:54.000 They're ready to poke him.

00:11:55.000 Oh wait, we're still talking about Facebook.

00:11:55.000 It's time to go.

00:11:57.000 Yes, Pokemon Facebook.

00:11:59.000 We have Ben Shapiro and Jim Norton on after this.

00:12:03.000 So this is something we wanted to talk about, and Brodigan, you were passionate about this.

00:12:06.000 Phil, have you been following Alexandria Cortez a whole lot?

00:12:09.000 Yes, I have been very, very, very diligently trying to figure out what her middle names are.

00:12:15.000 I haven't gotten quite anywhere else that's about it.

00:12:18.000 $3.65 an hour.

00:12:19.000 Can we multiple the hours?

00:12:21.000 How much money have you spent on figuring this out?

00:12:24.000 So in non-surprising news, according to her, America no longer has the upper middle class.

00:12:32.000 I think we have the overlay there, right, Brodigan, of what she said.

00:12:34.000 She said there's no more middle class in the United States. 0.69

00:12:36.000 She's given a couple of interviews lately, but this is actually something more specific where she refers to Again, she's trying to paint a mental picture.

00:12:44.000 She's taking the mantle from Bernie Sanders.

00:12:46.000 You know he's pissed about that.

00:12:48.000 She's going further left than he is, which is crazy.

00:12:50.000 Well, let's see the clip first where she talks about this.

00:12:50.000 Yeah, okay.

00:12:53.000 This, like, upper middle class.

00:12:56.000 Yeah.

00:12:56.000 is probably more moderate, but that upper middle class doesn't exist anymore in America.

00:13:01.000 Their heyday was in the 90s when kids had Furbies and parents,

00:13:08.000 you had soccer moms with two vans and stuff. Furbies and two vans. 1.00

00:13:12.000 Yeah. That's a dream.

00:13:14.000 That's not America anymore. No, it's not America anymore.

00:13:18.000 You don't even recognize America. 0.99

00:13:19.000 If you have two actual crazy eyes... Yeah. 0.99

00:13:23.000 Look, this is... I think we have another one, too.

00:13:25.000 I think we have another... Do we have... We have, like... It's just... Google any picture of her eyes.

00:13:29.000 Multiple of them.

00:13:29.000 And it shows you.

00:13:30.000 Google.

00:13:31.000 Google.

00:13:33.000 That's awesome.

00:13:34.000 You know who's most upset about this is Bernie Sanders because she's more... She's still more attractive than Bernie Sanders. 1.00

00:13:39.000 It's true. 1.00

00:13:39.000 It's like, Socialism is an aging SON OF A BITCH! 1.00

00:13:44.000 I mean, can you imagine being him, staking out that far left position, saying there's no way anybody's gonna top this, and boom. 1.00

00:13:50.000 Crazy Eyes comes along.

00:13:51.000 And he has to concede the territory. 1.00

00:13:53.000 I'm a cisgender prick! 0.99

00:13:55.000 The mantle is yours! 0.99

00:14:00.000 He started it.

00:14:01.000 It's true, though. 0.82

00:14:02.000 This is how the left sees Cortez.

00:14:05.000 So when America right now actually looks like this...

00:14:07.000 Alexandria something Cortez actually sees this.

00:14:16.000 Thanks for watching!

00:14:18.000 Oh Great movie.

00:14:22.000 Love it.

00:14:24.000 But to be fair, have you been to a kid's soccer game?

00:14:25.000 You're about to say something there, half-Asian lawyer Bill. 0.80

00:14:27.000 I thought you were about to say something.

00:14:27.000 Yo.

00:14:29.000 No, there's nothing to be said about it.

00:14:30.000 Amazing movie.

00:14:31.000 It was Brodigan.

00:14:32.000 I was, two things.

00:14:33.000 One, in her defense, that does actually look like Bill de Blasio's New York City, so that's what she's gonna do.

00:14:37.000 Or Chicago on a good weekend.

00:14:39.000 Chicago on a good weekend.

00:14:40.000 Straws are a fire hazard.

00:14:41.000 But the annoying thing is, especially now that Democrat Socialists are basically the left's tea party, you're gonna see a bunch of these candidates.

00:14:49.000 If you've ever been to a bar in New York City and had a conversation with Any of them?

00:14:54.000 Alexandria Nina Pinto the Santa Maria Cortez she's literally she's literally 0.63

00:15:03.000 You'd be like, you know something?

00:15:04.000 I'm not drunk enough for you tonight.

00:15:06.000 I'm going on.

00:15:06.000 And she's going to be in Congress now.

00:15:08.000 And then later you find out that she was busted from Burlington. 0.97

00:15:10.000 Didn't the entire 20th century pretty much put to bed the fact that socialism sucks and kills millions and millions and millions of people? 0.97

00:15:17.000 Not to bug eyes.

00:15:18.000 By the way, let's get into her specific claim.

00:15:20.000 She talks about the 90s in the middle class, now she talks about two vanes and Furbies and stuff.

00:15:24.000 Okay, today, actually, Americans have it better than the 90s.

00:15:27.000 Let's just use her comparison.

00:15:29.000 So the average vehicle, specifically, which you have a fur capita. 0.96

00:15:32.000 Furbies sucked! 0.99

00:15:33.000 We've moved on. 0.99

00:15:34.000 Steadily risen along with the median income, yes, when adjusted for inflation.

00:15:38.000 So even in her examples, they have more cars and they have more money.

00:15:41.000 And by the way, when you look at things that she didn't bring up, which is what we talk about a lot as free enterprise advocates, and you can comment, I'd love to hear from you, with advancements in technology, things like, okay, think of plasma screen cell phones now, smartphones.

00:15:52.000 Again, 90s, you go back, it was still just a cell phone, a cellular phone.

00:15:56.000 And smartphone services, online educational assistance.

00:15:56.000 If you were lucky.

00:16:01.000 Everything is more accessible than ever.

00:16:02.000 You were talking, your first plasma screen was probably what?

00:16:05.000 Yeah, my first plasma was about $2,500 and it was like the, you know... Because you're horrible with money!

00:16:11.000 I am horrible with money.

00:16:12.000 No, but... 200 pounds!

00:16:13.000 But literally, it was like a bootleg plasma television and I got one last week for 500.

00:16:18.000 Yeah.

00:16:19.000 I was ecstatic to have a crack phone in high school.

00:16:22.000 Yeah.

00:16:23.000 With like 10 cents or $10 a text or something like that. 0.74

00:16:26.000 It was ridiculous.

00:16:27.000 You were very adept with it when you were infiltrating Antifa. 0.89

00:16:29.000 Yeah.

00:16:31.000 What we're missing here is that what she actually wants to do is actually make food more expensive. 1.00

00:16:35.000 Think about it.

00:16:36.000 Food more expensive when it all has to be local and organic and has to go through everything and single thing possible that the business progress has made over the years so that people can get fed.

00:16:45.000 That's actually the opposite of what she wants to do.

00:16:47.000 Especially try sticking a paper straw in a coconut.

00:16:49.000 No, you're right.

00:16:50.000 Actually, we have an overlay from American Enterprise.

00:16:52.000 Food is cheaper right now and more healthy than ever.

00:16:54.000 More healthy options than ever.

00:16:55.000 Remember they used to talk about this?

00:16:56.000 These food deserts.

00:16:58.000 Food deserts!

00:16:58.000 Yeah.

00:16:59.000 Okay, well now there's Amazon Fresh!

00:17:06.000 To Amazon!

00:17:06.000 And here's the thing, they'd be even cheaper if we didn't price fix.

00:17:09.000 So, for example, in Michigan, because the Great Lakes, record highs in a lot of them, and actually one of the best crop years ever, the last few years.

00:17:17.000 You know this, Michigan's a very persnickety crop, so they need, it's not extreme cold or extreme hot, they need a very long, moderate, slow-thawing winter, and they've had the best in years.

00:17:27.000 Best day of cherries around.

00:17:28.000 So what happens?

00:17:29.000 They make them dump cherries! 1.00

00:17:30.000 Same thing in Canada or if I'm in Quebec, I remember they used to make them dump milk because they wanted the prices to be too low.

00:17:35.000 Like, well, cherries will be too cheap.

00:17:36.000 So we have to save the cherry farm.

00:17:38.000 Let's fix the prices of the cherries.

00:17:39.000 And the milk, they're not giving them to cheese factories.

00:17:42.000 They're not giving them to the homeless.

00:17:42.000 No.

00:17:43.000 Jumping down the drain.

00:17:44.000 Just give it to a homeless shelter. 0.99

00:17:46.000 Price fix?

00:17:47.000 Homeless shelter fixing prices?

00:17:51.000 It's her retinal.

00:17:52.000 Anytime the government gets involved, they really do screw these things up.

00:17:52.000 My gosh.

00:17:55.000 They actually hurt themselves.

00:17:56.000 Whatever goal they have, they don't achieve it.

00:17:58.000 And they make prices higher for everybody else.

00:18:00.000 Well, unless their goal is to make prices higher.

00:18:02.000 With price fixing, it's clear that they want to make it higher, and then they want to complain about higher prices.

00:18:05.000 By the way, if we're talking about where the middle class is getting reamed on prices, at least as far as 2016 and 2017 is concerned, America has actually spent more money on taxes than food and clothing combined!

00:18:14.000 Coming from your labor statistics, Ms.

00:18:15.000 Socialist!

00:18:17.000 A little bit more.

00:18:18.000 So if you want to talk about Americans having more money, again, like you said, take a closer look at the government.

00:18:24.000 Also, by the way, Cortez sees Furbies like this.

00:18:31.000 I kind of agree with her there.

00:18:33.000 Also, by the way, Furbies are still available!

00:18:40.000 You know why people don't have Furbies anymore, something something Cortez?

00:18:42.000 Because they have iPads with Angry Birds and neuropsychiatric applications!

00:18:48.000 Nostalgic dummy.

00:18:50.000 I will say that in Alexandria Moleri-Cortez's defense, Furbies were kind of evil.

00:18:56.000 Oh yeah, they were.

00:18:57.000 Remember when you first got the Furby?

00:18:58.000 Everyone was lining up for them.

00:18:59.000 Like, look, it has this new sensor technology.

00:18:59.000 Yeah.

00:19:00.000 Everyone's like, hold on a second.

00:19:01.000 It's just a button underneath the felt.

00:19:03.000 It's T.U.

00:19:04.000 Beanie Babies plus the devil. 0.65

00:19:06.000 Yes!

00:19:07.000 T.Y.

00:19:07.000 Beanie Babies.

00:19:08.000 T.Y.

00:19:08.000 Beanie Babies.

00:19:09.000 Beanie Babies.

00:19:09.000 T.Y.

00:19:10.000 That's what it was.

00:19:11.000 Remember the people who thought those were investments?

00:19:12.000 Oh, man.

00:19:13.000 Oh, yes.

00:19:13.000 I know.

00:19:13.000 Bradley Cortez.

00:19:14.000 That's why she became a socialist.

00:19:15.000 She just has a closet full of Beanie Babies right next to Barney. 1.00

00:19:18.000 I got... Son of a bitch! 1.00

00:19:20.000 My pink flamingo didn't pay off! 1.00

00:19:24.000 It was a first release!

00:19:25.000 Capitalism doesn't work!

00:19:27.000 These Beanie Babies, they should have been worth more!

00:19:29.000 I'm still banking on my magic, the Gathering Card!

00:19:36.000 She goes on to make another claim that unemployment is only low because Americans have to work two jobs.

00:19:47.000 Let her say it.

00:19:48.000 The numbers that you just talked about is part of the problem, right?

00:19:52.000 Because we look at these figures and we say, oh, unemployment is low, everything is fine, right?

00:19:57.000 Well, unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs.

00:20:00.000 Everyone.

00:20:01.000 Even PolitiFact, bring this up Roderick, and rated this as Pants on Fire.

00:20:05.000 So, I mean, that is friendly Pants on Fire by the way.

00:20:08.000 They searched the first page of Google and then wrote the article.

00:20:11.000 Yes, exactly.

00:20:12.000 The first link says no.

00:20:14.000 That's what's remarkable about this, because I'm pretty sure PolitiFact is funded by Hillary Clinton donors.

00:20:19.000 Pretty much. 0.98

00:20:20.000 So for Alexandria, the Riz of the Jersey and old dirty bastard Cortez to get a Pants on Fire? 0.90

00:20:23.000 How long have you been working on this? 0.99

00:20:26.000 I know, right?

00:20:26.000 These are so good.

00:20:29.000 And by the way, I want to get this correct, I'm pretty sure PolitiFact is funded by Podesta's underground pizza sex ring. 0.91

00:20:35.000 That's absolutely correct.

00:20:38.000 By the way, we have the numbers, it's currently actually the number of, I think, job holders is about 7 million compared to more than 148 million Americans who are employed in a single job.

00:20:46.000 So this is important.

00:20:48.000 It's not because of two jobs.

00:20:49.000 And by the way, also, a lot of people are working second jobs right now because of something else that the left opposes.

00:20:55.000 Ironically, socialists oppose the sharing economy.

00:20:58.000 So people who work full-time jobs who don't have to work second jobs, they drive Uber or they use their home as an Airbnb.

00:21:03.000 So it's really hard to get those numbers.

00:21:04.000 Even then, it's more damning than she would hope you to believe, again, Rated Pants on Fire.

00:21:09.000 But here's another thing that she goes on to suggest, because the other things aren't necessarily working.

00:21:12.000 So she just keeps digging her hole deeper and deeper with her bug eyes. 1.00

00:21:15.000 I don't think she knows how many holes Where am I?

00:21:20.000 New ideas, right?

00:21:21.000 Like universal basic income.

00:21:23.000 The mayor of Stockton, he's exploring doing a pilot program of universal basic income.

00:21:27.000 That's also what people want right now.

00:21:29.000 They want new ideas.

00:21:30.000 What she actually means is Nick and Nate Diaz.

00:21:32.000 Right, yes, exactly.

00:21:33.000 Nick and Nate Diaz.

00:21:35.000 Oh my gosh.

00:21:36.000 Mayor of Stockton.

00:21:37.000 She's like the mayor of Stockton, city commissioner of Toledo, Ohio.

00:21:41.000 Tule-do.

00:21:42.000 Happened in Flint.

00:21:42.000 By the way, this is not a new idea.

00:21:44.000 Universal basic income has been tried in places like Canada and Finland and surprise!

00:21:47.000 They're not continuing it.

00:21:49.000 Yeah, it's not going on.

00:21:50.000 It's also the single worst idea ever floated in basic economics.

00:21:55.000 Hold on a second.

00:21:55.000 There's still the Holocaust.

00:21:57.000 Careful.

00:21:58.000 That idea wasn't floated.

00:21:59.000 That actually happened.

00:21:59.000 That's true.

00:22:00.000 I was in Iran.

00:22:01.000 It didn't happen.

00:22:02.000 It wasn't exactly.

00:22:03.000 Let me run something by you! 0.98

00:22:07.000 I think it goes to Holocaust, the Ghostbusters remake, and universal basic income.

00:22:13.000 And Transformers 4.

00:22:14.000 Or any Transformers except for the 1986 cartoon movie, where everyone died.

00:22:21.000 Is that an actual?

00:22:21.000 Way to be a downer while we were getting some momentum, everybody.

00:22:23.000 Sorry, you're in a horrible place.

00:22:25.000 And here's the thing, this is all based on the premise, and she repeats this a lot ad nauseum, just like Bernie Sanders did.

00:22:32.000 It's predicated on the concept that inequality is a plaguing, gigantic, evil, social injustice.

00:22:42.000 And it's not.

00:22:42.000 We need stronger champions, but I don't think that they see exactly how rising income inequality has resulted in a very stark political reality.

00:22:55.000 Uh, okay.

00:22:55.000 Um, this is one thing we've talked- and a lot of people- we've talked about this quite a bit on the show, Nakajit, going back to when we were in the- basically in the AM radio days.

00:23:01.000 Yep, we did.

00:23:02.000 Um, but we didn't have the ability to do charts.

00:23:03.000 No graphics.

00:23:04.000 No, we didn't have any graphics back then.

00:23:05.000 Everything made a lot more sense on audio, though.

00:23:07.000 Yes, it made a lot more sense on audio.

00:23:08.000 So they- we've talked about this.

00:23:10.000 When you- people say, about inequalities, what's wrong with inequality?

00:23:14.000 Well, don't you think inequality is wrong?

00:23:15.000 No. 0.83

00:23:17.000 And their brains explode.

00:23:17.000 Let me explain to you.

00:23:18.000 Inequality in and of itself is not a problem if everyone is doing better.

00:23:21.000 People can have greater economic equality and actually be far worse off.

00:23:25.000 See Venezuela. 0.72

00:23:26.000 So let me kind of give you an example.

00:23:28.000 Let's say there's a $10 pie.

00:23:29.000 Okay?

00:23:31.000 There's a $10 pie.

00:23:31.000 I own 50.

00:23:32.000 You own 50.

00:23:33.000 Right?

00:23:33.000 We're equal.

00:23:34.000 There you go.

00:23:35.000 You have perfect equality.

00:23:37.000 Now is that better than let's say you go and grow that pie to $500 pie?

00:23:41.000 So now I only have 20% of that pie, right?

00:23:46.000 I still have 20 times what I had before!

00:23:48.000 Even though the quality gap has widened significantly.

00:23:51.000 Where am I better off?

00:23:52.000 And most importantly, you have pie.

00:23:55.000 More importantly, this is why inequality cannot be a measurement in and of itself.

00:24:01.000 We say this, it's nuance, it doesn't exist in a vacuum.

00:24:03.000 Inequality doesn't exist in a vacuum.

00:24:05.000 Anytime you have somebody who creates goods or services that benefit the rest of society, that gap is going to widen.

00:24:11.000 Kind of like anytime Wayne Gretzky went to go play for a hockey team, guess what?

00:24:15.000 The gap between his scoring and the rest of the players, it was always wider than before Wayne Gretzky arrived on the team, but everybody else played better.

00:24:22.000 Were they so off for Wayne Gretzky being on the team?

00:24:24.000 Of course not!

00:24:26.000 Or like when Michael Jordan played for the Bulls.

00:24:28.000 Or LeBron.

00:24:29.000 No, never mind LeBron.

00:24:30.000 You don't want to talk about that.

00:24:31.000 Too soon!

00:24:32.000 On Nakajara's last day, it's still a short spot.

00:24:34.000 It's a little sting there.

00:24:36.000 Rude.

00:24:37.000 And this is why, because I know we had a lot of Bernie bros who sort of jumped to Donald Trump, and we have a lot of people who were formerly sort of socialists who got on board with the anti-SJW bandwagon.

00:24:45.000 I want to hear where you guys are right now with this Cortez business, if maybe your eyes have been opened.

00:24:50.000 Not quite as widely as hers, but you understand where I'm coming from.

00:24:55.000 Stanley Kubrick.

00:24:57.000 Eyes wide.

00:24:57.000 Very wide.

00:24:58.000 Oh my god.

00:24:59.000 They're so wide.

00:25:01.000 Are you a pug?

00:25:02.000 It's just Tom Cruise going, we're gonna need a stand-in.

00:25:13.000 It's a fundamental worldview issue where people like Cortez, she always says, oh, I have a

00:25:17.000 degree and I have a degree.

00:25:19.000 No, she doesn't understand economics, because not only can that pie grow, as we've talked about, but as conservatives, we've talked about this, due to human ingenuity in a free enterprise system, we can bake more pies!

00:25:29.000 A limitless number of pies.

00:25:31.000 Brodigan, you forgot your pie graphic there, sir.

00:25:33.000 There's a limit, there you go.

00:25:34.000 Look it, look it.

00:25:35.000 Oh, wow, look at all the pies.

00:25:36.000 That was such a good graphic, and Brodigan was, for those who are listening, he was about five seconds late on the pies.

00:25:40.000 At least five.

00:25:41.000 In my defense, I was trying to think of a new witty middle name for Alexandria Cortez.

00:25:44.000 You weren't doing your job.

00:25:45.000 We need more Brodigans is what we need. 1.00

00:25:47.000 No, no, no.

00:25:48.000 Alexandria Anti-Diabetes.

00:25:50.000 Cortez.

00:25:50.000 She's just trying to eat not so much pie, right?

00:25:52.000 You know, it's bad.

00:25:53.000 Oh, I got it.

00:25:53.000 Alexandria Bye-Bye Miss American Pie Cortez.

00:25:56.000 There we go.

00:25:56.000 That's the worst of all of them.

00:25:58.000 That's the last time I hand out bourbon before the show as a celebration for Matt K. Jarrett's pregnancy.

00:26:03.000 Spoiler alert!

00:26:05.000 By the way, to use your own words, it's not the 90s anymore.

00:26:08.000 I can name you entirely new pies that have been created since.

00:26:11.000 This is a good example.

00:26:12.000 People are like, oh, you say you can create new pies.

00:26:14.000 I don't know why. 0.98

00:26:15.000 That's a really silly argument. 0.96

00:26:16.000 That's the actual argument she's making. 0.95

00:26:17.000 She thinks it's a zero-sum game.

00:26:18.000 Okay, what pies have been created, have been baked since the 90s that didn't exist?

00:26:22.000 Smartphones, Amazon, social media, electric cars, fracking, nanotechnology, the sharing economy.

00:26:29.000 None of these pies existed two decades ago.

00:26:32.000 Or came from Venezuela.

00:26:33.000 Or came from Venezuela.

00:26:34.000 Or any socialist country, for that matter.

00:26:36.000 Or Finland.

00:26:36.000 I'm pretty sure not much.

00:26:38.000 No.

00:26:39.000 Maybe something during those times.

00:26:40.000 I have no idea. 0.61

00:26:41.000 I cannot, I can't verify that completely, but I'm pretty sure Finland's crappy. 1.00

00:26:46.000 So why are we bitching? 1.00

00:26:48.000 Oh, that's right, because Cortez sees the United States like this.

00:26:55.000 I think she just needs to get it dialed in. 1.00

00:26:59.000 That's a bad day.

00:27:01.000 We have Ben Shapiro coming up next, and then Jim Norton.

00:27:04.000 We'll hear from you in the comments section below.

00:27:06.000 It's a bench barrel. 1.00

00:27:07.000 Damn it, sir. 1.00

00:27:08.000 I should have worn a spandex. 1.00

00:27:13.000 Good Goat Petty Rangers Good Goat Petty Rangers

00:27:23.000 Good Goat Petty Rangers Good Goat Petty Rangers

00:27:33.000 I'm proud of Petty Rangers Good Goat Petty Rangers

00:27:41.000 Good Goat Petty Rangers Good Goat Petty Rangers

00:27:48.000 All right.

00:27:49.000 Glad to have our first guest.

00:27:50.000 One of the favorites here on the show.

00:27:51.000 One of the favorites.

00:27:52.000 People really like him.

00:27:53.000 I mostly like him.

00:27:54.000 It depends on the day.

00:27:55.000 He is going to be in Dallas, Texas on August 15th.

00:27:59.000 Ben Shapiro Live!

00:28:00.000 It's the name of the show.

00:28:02.000 Not particularly original with the naming, but you can get the tickets at LiveNation.com.

00:28:05.000 You can follow him at Ben Shapiro.

00:28:06.000 Of course, his show is available on Daily Wire, iTunes, anywhere else podcasts are sold or have kick-ass bedsheet commercials.

00:28:12.000 How are you, Ben?

00:28:14.000 Doing well.

00:28:15.000 I mean, you should just feel lucky that we didn't name the show Ben Shapiro Mug Club.

00:28:18.000 I feel very fortunate.

00:28:19.000 You would not be the first to have attempted that.

00:28:24.000 Are there still tickets left, by the way, in Dallas?

00:28:27.000 Yeah, there's still a couple tickets left.

00:28:28.000 I think it's like a 3,500 seat house, and I think that there may be 150 seats left, something like that.

00:28:33.000 Very nice, humblebrag, I appreciate it.

00:28:35.000 That's right, you like that.

00:28:36.000 Speaking of humblebrag, you're still on the YouTube, I'm still on the YouTube, but all over the news this week, listen, you have no love lost, I don't think it's any secret for Alex Jones, InfoWars, you're not a big fan, but what's your opinion this week on the unilateral action kind of taken against the channels across the board?

00:28:53.000 I mean, I have to admit that every time I talk about Alex Jones, I just want to rip off my jacket and go crazy into supplements!

00:28:59.000 Yes.

00:28:59.000 But aside from that, I'm not a big fan.

00:29:02.000 He suggested that I'm an atheist and that he would send people to the homes of some of the funders of the Daily Wire.

00:29:10.000 And also that Satan should get behind him as he attacked me and he was going to get in my business.

00:29:15.000 So yeah, Alex Jones and I are not the best of friends, but the fact that... I think that Ben is taking hallucinogenic mushrooms again, people.

00:29:22.000 Like Moses with the burning bush, if you listen to the same people online.

00:29:26.000 Have you heard this conspiracy? 0.97

00:29:27.000 People are like, you're crazy spaghetti monster God. 0.82

00:29:30.000 And then they have this whole conspiracy about Moses was on hallucinogenic mushrooms with the burning bush. 0.96

00:29:35.000 That takes so much more effort to make up that one.

00:29:38.000 Just say it's non-existent!

00:29:39.000 Let's just disagree! 0.91

00:29:41.000 My favorite is when they suggest that I'm part of a dessert cult, because they can't spell the word desert.

00:29:45.000 So they instead say that I'm part of a dessert cult, which actually, frankly, sounds like an amazing cult.

00:29:50.000 Like, if I were going to lead a cult, that would definitely, like the cheesecake cult.

00:29:52.000 Come on, have a knish. 0.54

00:29:54.000 Come in.

00:29:54.000 Wait, is knish a dessert?

00:29:55.000 I'm not chewy enough.

00:29:56.000 I thought it was a potato thing.

00:29:58.000 It is not, actually.

00:29:59.000 I should have picked like a kugel. 1.00

00:29:59.000 It is not, actually. 1.00

00:30:01.000 Like a kugel would be better.

00:30:02.000 I'm calling you on your Jewish references. 1.00

00:30:04.000 Look at this!

00:30:04.000 I know, my God.

00:30:06.000 This Canadian Christian is nailing the Jew to the wall on his Yiddish references. 0.96

00:30:10.000 I don't feel comfortable. 0.79

00:30:11.000 I don't like talking about nailing any Jew to a wall.

00:30:13.000 This is taking a horrible turn.

00:30:15.000 I learned that because I was watching a special, I remember, with my friend in New York City, and it was this whole special on ganishes in Manhattan, and we just said, you know what, we've never had a ganish, and we went and we had it, and I gotta tell ya, It's all right.

00:30:26.000 So back to the Alex Jones info.

00:30:28.000 It's nothing special.

00:30:30.000 What is your opinion on disagreeing with him personally?

00:30:33.000 I know you've had your personal runs.

00:30:35.000 Yeah, so Alex Jones is a complete douchebag, but the fact that all of these... We understand that you don't like him, Shapiro!

00:30:43.000 Let me be clear. 1.00

00:30:44.000 I think that he's a steaming pile of human dung. 0.97

00:30:46.000 But the fact that Alex Jones is being banned by all of these various tech companies for Bad reasons is really a problem. 0.96

00:30:54.000 So if they had said, listen, we're not going to allow people on our platform who libel or who slander or who engage in widespread conspiracy theories.

00:31:04.000 If they were to do that, that at least is some sort of objective standard that I guess that you could maybe hold to.

00:31:09.000 But what you can't do is just say hate speech and then ban things.

00:31:12.000 I mean, you can because you're a private company, but it sets a really bad standard because I mean, Steven, you know, I know, we all know, anybody on the conservative right knows that half the stuff that we say that is just basic fact is now construed as hate speech by folks on the left.

00:31:25.000 If I say a man is a man and a woman is a woman, I have to have 600 police officers to protect me in Berkeley, and people are calling it hate speech.

00:31:31.000 So I'm not comfortable with all of these tech companies using the category of hate speech to ban Alex Jones, even though, if I've not made clear, I think that Alex Jones is a dumpster fireman.

00:31:41.000 Doers for fire! I think I know where you're coming from with that.

00:31:44.000 And you know what's...

00:31:45.000 Listen, I disagree with Alex.

00:31:46.000 I think he implied that I work for you at one point.

00:31:49.000 People were telling me that something happened because he hadn't been on the show in a while,

00:31:52.000 I can't afford your salary, man.

00:31:52.000 and I hadn't been on his...

00:31:54.000 I can't afford your salary.

00:31:55.000 I know you can't! 0.97

00:31:56.000 You know, you Jews are tight-fisted with a dollar. 1.00

00:31:59.000 No, it really is one of those deals where it didn't make any sense to me because I know his son has been a supporter and so I've always tried to be amicable with as many people as possible.

00:32:08.000 And I'll go on shows whose views differ greatly from mine.

00:32:11.000 I know you will too.

00:32:12.000 But this does really concern me.

00:32:13.000 I thought this.

00:32:14.000 So you're a lawyer.

00:32:16.000 I'm a lawyer and I did think there's a Sandy Hook angle if they would have if they'd have spoken about this because you know there's a lawsuit coming and you know Sandy Hook they're going to win and apparently Alex said that he might counter sue the Sandy Hook people and I was thinking maybe if you two were to say we do not want the legal liability of allowing this to play out on our platform but again it's not they spoke about hate speech or even if they just suggested which was the the specific line that he crossed if they just said you're not allowed to call Sandy Hook victims child actors right then it's like okay All right.

00:32:46.000 Like, okay.

00:32:48.000 It's a very specific policy.

00:32:49.000 It seems kind of niche, but I think we know where you're going with this.

00:32:53.000 Exactly.

00:32:54.000 Like, then you can't do the, first they came for Alex Jones because he called the children of Sandy Hook child actors.

00:32:59.000 And then they came because nobody else called them child actors.

00:33:02.000 So there's no next step to the slippery slope.

00:33:05.000 When you say first, they came for Alex Jones because of hate speech.

00:33:08.000 And then you're like, well, yeah, but they can expand that definition to encompass Pretty much anything.

00:33:12.000 So yeah, it's... And they're not consistent in applying it.

00:33:15.000 The coordinated hit of it was also a serious problem.

00:33:16.000 Like, it wasn't just one outlet decided, okay, we're gonna do this, and then three months later, another outlet decided to do it.

00:33:21.000 It was all of a sudden, all of them decided at once, which looks a hell of a lot like collusion.

00:33:25.000 It looks like all these people are calling each other up.

00:33:27.000 Now let me ask you this, as a lawyer, what amount of evidence is needed if you're going to bring up collusion as an argument?

00:33:32.000 I mean at that point, what are the statistical odds of Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, Facebook, or maybe it wasn't iTunes?

00:33:38.000 I think it was Apple, I'm not sure iTunes, it was Facebook, it was YouTube, and Spotify.

00:33:49.000 All of them did it within a day of each other.

00:33:51.000 I think that there may be a monopoly argument there.

00:33:55.000 I mean, there may be a restraint of train argument there.

00:33:57.000 But this, I mean, honestly, I'm not going to speak outside my domain of constitutional law.

00:34:01.000 No, but that would lend itself to the argument of, you know, of it being effectively these major platforms.

00:34:06.000 Some conservatives have argued and for a long time I've said, no, I don't agree about them being public utilities if it acts as a monopoly.

00:34:12.000 And like I said, in this case, this is pretty clear that it acted certainly as a monolith.

00:34:16.000 They all acted in unison, which is very bizarre.

00:34:19.000 Yeah, and what's weird is you have all these people who are out there saying, so this is the part that drives me crazy.

00:34:23.000 People say, so why are you defending Alex Jones?

00:34:25.000 It's like, again, I'm not defending Alex Jones.

00:34:27.000 I'm defending the principle that you can't just call things hate speech and then ban them because they're quote-unquote hate speech.

00:34:32.000 That's not an actual category of speech.

00:34:34.000 Right.

00:34:35.000 It's not a thing.

00:34:37.000 Yeah, and it's a thing that can be used against anybody that you don't like.

00:34:41.000 It's highly irritating to me.

00:34:43.000 When the left just creates these linguistic categories and then piles everybody into them.

00:34:46.000 And I have to say, they are shrinking the Overton window.

00:34:48.000 Now, Alex Jones may be outside the Overton window.

00:34:51.000 I think he probably is.

00:34:53.000 In fact, I definitely think he is.

00:34:55.000 But that doesn't mean that the left thinks that he's the only person outside the Overton window, right?

00:34:59.000 There was that whole Vox.com video they cut where it was like, everyone's outside the Overton window now, right?

00:35:06.000 Alex Jones, you're outside the Overton window, presumably.

00:35:08.000 I'm outside the Overton window.

00:35:10.000 Like, every single person is outside the Overton window, and you're left with a monolith of leftist opinion that is inside the Overton window, plus David Frum, Anna Navarro, and Max Boot, right?

00:35:22.000 For now.

00:35:22.000 As long as David Frum and Max Boot end up being as anti-Trump as they are right now, then we will sort of give them this strange new respect where they get to talk.

00:35:30.000 But if you are remotely conservative, even if you don't like Trump, Then you are considered outside the realm of acceptable discourse.

00:35:35.000 And of course, you know, I experienced that when I single-handedly destroyed the MCU just by sitting here a couple of weeks ago after that whole Mark Duplass thing, where it was like, Mark Duplass, that indie director, tweets out something remotely nice about me.

00:35:46.000 Ben, you don't need to describe Mark Duplass to me.

00:35:48.000 I know who he is.

00:35:49.000 He was on this show, but... That's right.

00:35:51.000 He was on the show before... Here's the truth about that.

00:35:53.000 I actually wanted to talk with you about that.

00:35:54.000 He was on the show before anyone else, before any other shows.

00:35:57.000 This was the first conservative show he did, right?

00:35:59.000 So he came on the show, and it was...

00:36:00.000 It was the way I am with all voices of opposition.

00:36:04.000 Matched intensity, was very civil, but you could see him getting kind of upset if ever I said,

00:36:08.000 well, okay, I understand where you're coming from, but I do disagree.

00:36:10.000 And at that point, he was used to conservative, civil discourse,

00:36:13.000 meaning let's just find common ground.

00:36:15.000 But I said, no, let's get to the truth.

00:36:17.000 And then after that, we had him on a second time.

00:36:20.000 And I tried to keep this private because I was hoping he would come back around.

00:36:23.000 But after your debacle, it's kind of given me, it's liberated me to speak about it.

00:36:26.000 He sent me an email saying, I don't think that you're actually seeking common ground, and I don't want to do your show anymore.

00:36:31.000 I'm like, OK, I understand that.

00:36:33.000 But then he did the same thing with you.

00:36:34.000 And now he's done it effectively with all conservatives, not named French.

00:36:37.000 Mr. French is the butler.

00:36:37.000 Is it David French?

00:36:39.000 I always get the two confused.

00:36:40.000 Principle's the same.

00:36:42.000 But here's the thing with David, right?

00:36:43.000 Like, I'm good friends with David French.

00:36:45.000 And these people won't accept David French either.

00:36:47.000 Like, I happen to know that these people will not accept David French.

00:36:49.000 Like, I talk to David a lot, and the reality is that anyone who is remote... Like, David holds views that are the same as yours and mine as far as transgenderism, that you can't magically change your gender. 0.92

00:37:00.000 Well, let me let me clarify.

00:37:01.000 I mean, they will they will accept anyone who is very anti-Trump because they see them as a useful tool, like you were talking about.

00:37:07.000 But even there, they'll do that so long as they don't sniff that you're a conservative.

00:37:12.000 Right.

00:37:12.000 So is so that that's if every column you write, like Max Boot lately.

00:37:15.000 is Donald Trump is Stalin, and no matter what Donald Trump does, it's always wrong.

00:37:16.000 Yeah.

00:37:20.000 Then they'll accept you as long as you're doing that.

00:37:21.000 But the minute you write a column that's even like half thought out

00:37:24.000 about something remotely conservative, like Bret Stephens, right?

00:37:26.000 Is his anti-Trump is Max Boot.

00:37:28.000 But when Bret Stephens writes something about climate change, then it's,

00:37:30.000 why is this guy even at the New York Times?

00:37:32.000 How's this even a thing?

00:37:33.000 Like Barry Weiss, who is also very, very anti-Trump.

00:37:36.000 Like she's been, like there's no way she gets hired now.

00:37:39.000 Like, a year ago she got hired, and that was basically the last person through the door, because there's no way they're gonna hire anybody even as quasi-right-wing as Barry Weiss, who is not a hardcore right-winger.

00:37:49.000 Especially not if they're named after a seasonal Lennon-Kugel's beer, though it is delicious.

00:37:53.000 I do understand where you're coming from on all of this, but yeah, I was really sorry to see Mark Duplass do that with you.

00:37:58.000 I thought you were kind of the last go-around.

00:38:00.000 After he had turned down our show, I was going, All right.

00:38:02.000 Well, maybe because, you know, we have, we've had Tranny Bain and obviously with comedy, it's a little more edgy.

00:38:06.000 I thought, well, maybe Ben Shapiro will have a crack at it.

00:38:08.000 And sorry, no dice.

00:38:09.000 The fact that I've become the, the fact that, you know, for a while there, I was sort of the outer limit and now I'm outside the outer limit and they just keep moving the limits in.

00:38:15.000 And so this is why I say like, if you can't have a conversation with you or with me, or even with like David French, like who has left?

00:38:23.000 They can't have a, like Stephen Colbert labeled Jonah Goldberg a trumper on national television.

00:38:28.000 How insane do you have to be to have crammed the size of acceptable opinion into a thimble?

00:38:35.000 And that's really what they've done.

00:38:36.000 I mean, every acceptable opinion can fit in the palm of their hand.

00:38:39.000 And that's what's so scary about the YouTube and InfoWars is because they say, well, they're outside of this thimble, but everybody is absolutely outside of this this thimble.

00:38:46.000 That being said, I do think there's a silver lining.

00:38:49.000 Do you think this will be self-correcting a little bit with the market, with YouTube and Facebook?

00:38:52.000 I think they're acting in unison, but they can't do it for very long without pissing off half their user base.

00:38:58.000 Yeah, I think that's right.

00:38:58.000 And I think that what you're going to start seeing is more and more people, you know, at least building up as a side business, a subscriber model like you have, or like we have, people saying, listen, we're not going to, we're not going to be subject to YouTube demonetizing us and YouTube destroying our viewer base.

00:39:12.000 You want to come watch our stuff, come watch our stuff, right?

00:39:14.000 And I think that you're going to see the media fragment YouTube and Facebook and a lot of these other social media sites, one of the fascinating things is that they arose in opposition to a controlled media infrastructure where you only had three channels and that controlled what you could watch.

00:39:28.000 And then they came along and they said, well, you can post anything here, right?

00:39:30.000 And then it was like, wow, this is great.

00:39:32.000 I can get whatever video I want on demand at any time.

00:39:34.000 This is just awesome.

00:39:35.000 And now they're restricting this, right?

00:39:37.000 Now they're treating themselves like the old networks used to.

00:39:39.000 We're going to decide what can go on and what can go off, and we're going to decide it based on ideological bias.

00:39:43.000 And what that's going to lead to is new fora that replace these.

00:39:46.000 So I saw somebody say, well, nothing can go up against Facebook.

00:39:49.000 Nothing can go up against YouTube.

00:39:50.000 I'm old enough to remember when MySpace was a thing.

00:39:52.000 I'm old enough to remember when Friendster was a thing.

00:39:54.000 And then Zango was a thing before that. 0.96

00:39:56.000 And that was nothing but Asians and horny emo kids. 0.96

00:39:58.000 So I remember all of these things. 0.97

00:39:59.000 No, you're absolutely right.

00:40:00.000 Yes, I do mean that.

00:40:01.000 doing that. It was Asians at Zanga and then the horny emo kids took it over and 0.94

00:40:04.000 then it became basically like it like the it became a whorehouse like MySpace. 1.00

00:40:09.000 It's tumbleweeds and prostitutes. That's what MySpace became and that paved the 0.92

00:40:12.000 way for Facebook. Let me final final question on this. You have your areas of expertise.

00:40:17.000 I do have my areas of expertise. So this is a this I do think this is important for people to understand.

00:40:25.000 Like you said, it's important to see someone like you who disagrees a lot with Alex Jones because people are going, well you can feud ideologically and still understand that there's a real problem at play here.

00:40:34.000 I do hope it will be self-correcting.

00:40:36.000 That was what I was going to ask you.

00:40:37.000 Did you guys get the email from YouTube on their new copyright policies now?

00:40:41.000 I know, I haven't seen that one yet, but I can check with our social media team.

00:40:44.000 Well, because it used to be YouTube was one of the few places that respected fair use a little bit more, and now it seems as though they're opening the window to anything critical.

00:40:51.000 For example, a rebuttal to Vox or a rebuttal to Chris Cuomo might not be fair use.

00:40:56.000 They might actually allow copyright claim IDs against those.

00:41:00.000 The wording is always, as you know, very vague, very broad, but it seems like that's where they're moving.

00:41:04.000 And I think if they do that, they're done.

00:41:05.000 That's a real problem, especially because fair use is obviously a defense.

00:41:11.000 It's not actually a claim.

00:41:13.000 So when you put something up, their first goal is going to be to take everything down, and then it takes you a week to put it back up, saying, no, this is fair use, and they have to reanalyze it.

00:41:22.000 So if they start cracking down on that stuff more harshly, it's going to be a serious problem.

00:41:25.000 It's going to be a serious problem, but I think it's the kind of problem that will cause mass exodus.

00:41:28.000 I do want people to understand this, and I know you can confirm this as a lawyer.

00:41:31.000 There is the law, for example, single-party consent states.

00:41:34.000 YouTube does not abide by the law.

00:41:35.000 So even though it's fair use, legally you can do it, YouTube, they say, well, hold on a second, we're not going to abide by the single-party consent law.

00:41:41.000 You have to have a written release form at a public protest, even though this person is committing a crime in a public space, and you don't need to.

00:41:47.000 The law says no, YouTube says yes, and that's the problem with the fair use, the copyright, the content claim IDs.

00:41:53.000 It's a moving target.

00:41:54.000 And I know Ben's been at the front of it, fighting it.

00:41:55.000 So have we, even though we're different in a lot of ways.

00:41:58.000 And I know InfoWars, in a lot of ways, have been doing it, too.

00:42:01.000 And so I hate to see any voice eliminated.

00:42:03.000 Ben, where is this show that people can find you?

00:42:06.000 So we are doing it at... What's the name of the theater?

00:42:09.000 I don't even know.

00:42:10.000 I don't even know.

00:42:11.000 It's in Dallas.

00:42:12.000 It's in Dallas.

00:42:13.000 Just go to Ticketmaster.

00:42:14.000 I believe Dallas is a city, so go check it out.

00:42:16.000 Ticketmaster.com or LiveNation.com.

00:42:18.000 That's where you can get the tickets.

00:42:19.000 Is there a big Jewish community in Dallas?

00:42:21.000 Yeah, there is actually.

00:42:22.000 I believe Dallas is the fourth largest risk community in the United States.

00:42:25.000 I think there's New York, L.A., Chicago, Dallas, I think.

00:42:27.000 Really?

00:42:28.000 Wow, that surprises me a whole lot.

00:42:30.000 They must be hiding because I have not met many when I've spent time in Dallas.

00:42:34.000 But I'm glad.

00:42:35.000 You know, I don't think they do so... They would acclimate to the temperature very well.

00:42:38.000 I mean, you know, the reason you haven't found them is they see this giant Canadian who's, you know, trying to figure out whether they're properly using the word knish.

00:42:46.000 And they're like, why would I?

00:42:47.000 I can't be around this person.

00:42:48.000 You're going to nail me to the wall.

00:42:50.000 Look at this. 0.83

00:42:50.000 Not that many Jews in Canada and French Canadians are a little bit anti-Semitic in nature. 0.83

00:42:54.000 Alright, that is at Ben Shapiro.

00:42:55.000 Daily Wire is the show August 15th in Dallas.

00:42:57.000 Thank you Ben Shapiro.

00:42:58.000 We have Jim Norton next.

00:42:59.000 We must go!

00:43:00.000 On now for Barely Legal with Bill Richmond.

00:43:12.000 Sponsored by my club.

00:43:17.000 Hi, Bill Richmond, Louder with Crowder's Half-Asian Lawyer, here to explain sometimes confusing legal terms and concepts.

00:43:24.000 Today we're talking about different types of courts that exist to solve legal issues.

00:43:28.000 First up, family court.

00:43:30.000 Divorce, child custody, you probably know what I'm talking about.

00:43:33.000 But if you don't, think O.J.

00:43:34.000 Simpson and Nicole Brown's first fight, but with less blood and no gloves.

00:43:39.000 Next is Probate Court, where you resolve post-death issues like wills and estates and inheritances.

00:43:45.000 It's the place Anna Nicole Smith hung out on weekends hoping for a pot of gold. 0.97

00:43:50.000 General Jurisdictional Court is a potpourri of judicial forums.

00:43:53.000 You get a little civil, a little criminal, a little family, a little probate.

00:43:56.000 A lot of small-time, small-county courts are like that.

00:43:59.000 Then you go to the next level, the Court of Appeals, where someone smarter is going to be checking your work.

00:44:04.000 And finally, the Supreme Court at the top dog in most states and the United States.

00:44:09.000 In some states, though, like New York, they just want to be different and ornery.

00:44:13.000 They call their basic court the Supreme Court, and then their top court the Court of Appeals. 1.00

00:44:18.000 Assholes. 0.94

00:44:20.000 I hope this clarifies the issue for you, though considering this is the internet, you probably forgot half of what I said and will send me a letter anyways asking the same question in a week. 0.98

00:44:29.000 I will not respond.

00:44:30.000 I'm half-Asian lawyer Bill Richman for Louder with Crowder.

00:44:33.000 Cheers.

00:44:35.000 This has been Barely Legal with Bill Richmond.

00:44:38.000 Sponsored by Mug Club.

00:44:39.000 Apparently this means star.

00:44:50.000 I have no idea.

00:44:51.000 I don't know why.

00:44:52.000 I have no idea why.

00:44:53.000 Our next guest, I'm a big fan.

00:44:54.000 So we just had Ben Shapiro, who is one of the fan favorites.

00:44:58.000 And it looks like we're going to have Owen Benjamin next week in third chair.

00:45:00.000 Excited about that.

00:45:01.000 This is one of my personal favorites.

00:45:02.000 We had Nick DiPaolo, I think, last week or two weeks ago.

00:45:05.000 I think he's one of, if you're going to take pure comedy, one of the best comedians out

00:45:08.000 there working today.

00:45:09.000 You can follow him on the Twitter, at Jim Norton, as long as they still allow him.

00:45:13.000 And he'll be at Hilarities in Cleveland, August 17th and 18th, I think.

00:45:17.000 Hey, jimnorton.com.

00:45:18.000 Jim, is that, do I have that right?

00:45:19.000 Is it 17th and 18th?

00:45:21.000 It is, yeah.

00:45:21.000 It's my first time in that club.

00:45:23.000 It's supposed to be a great club.

00:45:24.000 Everybody loves the owner.

00:45:25.000 So whenever comedians love the club owner, it's a good place, because usually comedians look at club owners the way you look at a guard at Dachau.

00:45:32.000 So I'm kind of happy to be finally going there.

00:45:33.000 You look jacked, by the way.

00:45:34.000 You look big.

00:45:35.000 No, you know what it is?

00:45:36.000 I've just lost weight because I'm sick, and so that's the camera fake, you know?

00:45:39.000 I'm just more gaunt, so I look lean.

00:45:42.000 But really, I'm weaker and less capable. 0.99

00:45:47.000 This happens, and I'm pretty sure if I took off my shirt right now, I'd have big tits. 1.00

00:45:50.000 But you know, Ben Shapiro's gonna be in Dallas August 15th, so a lot of live shows going on right now, which is good. 0.98

00:45:55.000 Often August is kind of a dead month for entertainment.

00:45:58.000 It's a hard month to sell tickets, because people are down the shore.

00:46:01.000 Unless you're a big-name comic.

00:46:02.000 Well, Ben just talks, right?

00:46:04.000 Does he go up and give, like, will he debate or talk?

00:46:06.000 Now he's doing the Ben Shapiro show live, since, you know, we did it here.

00:46:09.000 But no, he's very skilled, and anyone can do Q&A.

00:46:13.000 But you're a big name in comedy.

00:46:15.000 I mean, you're right up there.

00:46:17.000 Well, yeah, I mean, when you look at big names, I do well, but I mean, you know, Kevin Hart does two arenas a night.

00:46:22.000 Like, that's not even comedy.

00:46:23.000 That's just like, the guy's like a movie star who's a comedian, you know.

00:46:27.000 But because he's a comedian, he kills in arenas.

00:46:30.000 So for me, I'm happy if I can sell 800 or 1,000 tickets, I'm good.

00:46:33.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:46:34.000 Well, Kevin Hart, yeah, I did see that one time.

00:46:35.000 I think when he was in Texas, he did two arenas in one night, along with two white chicks.

00:46:40.000 So it was a busy night for him.

00:46:42.000 And, I mean, I have no idea.

00:46:43.000 I can't actually confirm that.

00:46:44.000 Let me ask you this.

00:46:45.000 You know what?

00:46:46.000 No, wait, hold on a second.

00:46:47.000 I've been to Hilarity's.

00:46:49.000 You know how I remember?

00:46:49.000 Because I did... Do they still have the Funny Bone in Pittsburgh?

00:46:54.000 I don't know.

00:46:55.000 I remember that gig.

00:46:56.000 I stopped working there, but I don't think they have anyone.

00:46:59.000 OK.

00:47:00.000 Well, because remember there used to be karaoke on the other side there.

00:47:02.000 It was like this big theater, the Funny Bone in Pittsburgh.

00:47:04.000 It was really big.

00:47:06.000 And it was kind of tough because it was such a big feeling room.

00:47:10.000 Anyway, because I did something in Watertown, New York, back with Louis Ramey, and then I was at the Pittsburgh Funny Bone, and I had no money, so I had to stay in a motel because I was middling.

00:47:20.000 Then for Greg Morton at Hilarities in Cleveland, and everyone's saying, it's an amazing club, because they put us in a hotel at that point that did not suck.

00:47:29.000 And to me, it was incredible.

00:47:30.000 It was a lot of fun.

00:47:32.000 You know, that is one of the great things about traveling as a stand-up.

00:47:34.000 You realize how many lousy accommodations there are. 1.00

00:47:37.000 I've stayed in so many shit places. 1.00

00:47:39.000 And, yeah, it's funny. 0.99

00:47:40.000 Who did you just make?

00:47:41.000 Oh, Louis Ramey.

00:47:42.000 Yes.

00:47:43.000 Louis is really great, man.

00:47:44.000 He's one of my, the first comics I ever went to see.

00:47:47.000 Like, I watched him.

00:47:48.000 And, you know, as you do stand-up for a while, you realize how comics work.

00:47:52.000 But I remember watching Louis Ramey, like, in 1990, and going, like, how?

00:47:57.000 Does he do that like to create such a beautiful narrative and so smooth and calm?

00:48:02.000 I'm like, I'll never be able to do what this guy does.

00:48:04.000 So yeah, Louis is really funny.

00:48:05.000 Really?

00:48:06.000 I'm surprised.

00:48:07.000 I wouldn't know you guys.

00:48:08.000 So you weren't a guy who was always very confident, which is interesting.

00:48:10.000 We just interviewed Daniel Cormier.

00:48:12.000 And I find this.

00:48:13.000 Yeah.

00:48:14.000 He said that he was making excuses before his fight to Miocic, you know, to lose, even though he won.

00:48:19.000 And obviously you're one of the more successful comedians out there.

00:48:23.000 Did it start with confidence, or are you always nervous?

00:48:26.000 Did you have a moment where you realized, though, that you could do this at a high level?

00:48:29.000 Like, was there a crossover moment?

00:48:31.000 You know, I have those moments, but they go away quickly. 0.91

00:48:33.000 I really do walk around feeling like just garbage personified.

00:48:37.000 I'm never, I'm completely uncomfortable in my own skin.

00:48:40.000 It's funny, some young comedians in New York, like Mark Norman, Sam Murill, really funny dudes.

00:48:45.000 They're like, yeah, we didn't think you'd like this for a while.

00:48:47.000 Cause I'm so, but I love those guys.

00:48:49.000 I think they're really good.

00:48:50.000 But I'm just so socially uncomfortable.

00:48:52.000 I don't think anybody likes me.

00:48:53.000 I just, I say hello and I kind of go in and I leave. 0.93

00:48:56.000 But it's not to be a dick. 0.99

00:48:57.000 It's because I'm like, ah, these guys, they probably think I suck. 0.99

00:49:00.000 So I have zero confidence. 1.00

00:49:02.000 You think they think you suck? 1.00

00:49:03.000 No, I will say this. 0.99

00:49:04.000 When I used to do Red Eye and you were there, you were one of the very, very friendly comedians when I walked in.

00:49:08.000 I was very nervous.

00:49:09.000 Well, thank you.

00:49:10.000 Because comedians were good to me.

00:49:11.000 You know, there's a comedian named Lynn Vecchio.

00:49:13.000 At this point I was 21. I was very nervous.

00:49:13.000 I never saw her again.

00:49:15.000 So that's very kind of you.

00:49:17.000 I always say this about you.

00:49:17.000 And I said on Joe Rogan's show, you're filthy on stage, but you've got a sweet heart.

00:49:23.000 Well, thank you.

00:49:24.000 Because comedians were good to me.

00:49:25.000 You know, there's a comedian named Lynn Vecchio.

00:49:27.000 I never saw her again.

00:49:28.000 I met her once in 1990 before I ever did stand up.

00:49:31.000 She talked to me for a half hour.

00:49:33.000 She was a middle act. 0.58

00:49:34.000 Just about comedy and what it was like.

00:49:36.000 And I will never forget her kindness to me.

00:49:38.000 So I always try to be nice to comics.

00:49:40.000 Because she gave me a lot of love, and I had never even performed, and I never saw her again.

00:49:44.000 So whoever that woman is, I owe her a lot.

00:49:46.000 And, you know, she just showed me a lot of kindness back when I—she had no reason to.

00:49:50.000 This is far too touching for this program right now.

00:49:53.000 It really is a wonderful after-school special.

00:49:55.000 You know, I'm a dirty comic, and I'm on.

00:49:57.000 You know, whatever happened to Linda Becchio, I'd like to give her an apple. 0.82

00:50:00.000 How great would it be right now if someone just shot me and I slumped over and that was the end of it? 1.00

00:50:05.000 Man, please shut up. 1.00

00:50:08.000 That's how you signed off. 1.00

00:50:09.000 I'd be happy.

00:50:11.000 It's odd.

00:50:11.000 Right before on-air we were talking about how douche just means shower in French.

00:50:14.000 You were talking about your fixtures with douche on them.

00:50:17.000 The off-air conversation was incredibly childish and what you would expect of comedians.

00:50:21.000 And then on-air it gets very touching.

00:50:22.000 Okay, speaking of which, comedy death.

00:50:24.000 Hannah Gatsby.

00:50:25.000 We were talking about this on-air.

00:50:27.000 I never want to put other comedians in an awkward situation.

00:50:29.000 But I remember tossing this to the audience.

00:50:32.000 So I want to get your thoughts on the state of comedy today and kind of political correctness.

00:50:36.000 This special was praised, was lauded for being the first comedy special that wasn't comedy.

00:50:44.000 It wasn't subversive.

00:50:45.000 She actually just says this is, you know, comedy, self-deprecation is just humiliation.

00:50:50.000 And it goes into After School Special.

00:50:53.000 What's your take on this concern?

00:50:54.000 The media has just, I know it's been the big thing at the festival, it's been praised everywhere, front page write-ups.

00:50:59.000 What's your read?

00:51:00.000 Well, the media stinks.

00:51:02.000 And you know, I watched Hannah's special, but I went into it kind of expecting to hate it completely.

00:51:08.000 I'm like, all right, got it.

00:51:10.000 And I watched it and I'm like, okay, I'm watching for like the first 40 minutes.

00:51:13.000 I'm like, she's a legit stand up.

00:51:15.000 Like she's not all curmudgeon.

00:51:16.000 Like she does this thing after a punch. 1.00

00:51:18.000 She smiled a lot.

00:51:20.000 Like Paul Mooney does that.

00:51:21.000 Paul Mooney will say some really harsh stuff and then he smiles and it just lets the air.

00:51:25.000 It's a technique.

00:51:26.000 It's like a performance technique.

00:51:27.000 Right.

00:51:28.000 Um, I liked the fact that she talked about really hard subjects.

00:51:32.000 Like, you know, anytime somebody is talking about being raped or, uh, you know, uh, being gang called a man, all this stuff that messed her up.

00:51:39.000 And then she does this whole thing on art. 0.99

00:51:41.000 Like I've never heard anybody talk about contemporary art or the way artists were perceived as sex or whatever.

00:51:48.000 So at least it was very, very original.

00:51:51.000 Um, so I liked it, but at the end when it kind of became a Ted talk, I didn't think she needed to do that.

00:51:58.000 She could do that.

00:52:00.000 But when she says something like, well, self-deprecation is humiliation.

00:52:04.000 It can be, But it doesn't have to be because nobody told more socially poignant or made more socially poignant stance than Richard Pryor. 0.96

00:52:13.000 Richard Pryor talked about his mother being a prostitute. 0.85

00:52:15.000 He talked about having homosexual encounters. 0.68

00:52:17.000 He talked about a lot of stuff and he did it in 1971 and 1975 before it was polite and okay to do.

00:52:25.000 And he was always funny.

00:52:26.000 He talked about racism in America and he always kept it funny.

00:52:31.000 And that to me is kind of what gives comedians the ability or the right to talk about this stuff

00:52:37.000 because people want to hear it and be able to laugh about it.

00:52:39.000 It's also really hard and that's why I wanted to get your take because we've talked about it with

00:52:43.000 Nick DiPaolo who was on recently and I think he's going to be a third chair here in the coming weeks

00:52:46.000 in studio with us because you deal with a lot of these issues that are pretty rough too and

00:52:49.000 you've caught some flack sometimes for it.

00:52:52.000 But it's a lot harder to come out and take that pain, because that's what comedy is, and turn it into something funny, than it is to sermonize.

00:52:59.000 And so, that's where, for me, the problem was when the media tried to really prop this up and prop up the sermonization, which was the least interesting part of the special.

00:53:09.000 Because here's the thing, a lot of people talk about modern art and postmodernism.

00:53:12.000 It's like Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro on this show.

00:53:14.000 Just not in comedy, because a lot of these people aren't able to turn it into something funny.

00:53:18.000 That was my issue with it, and that was the second half.

00:53:21.000 Yeah, no, no, I agree.

00:53:23.000 Because I was enjoying... I love watching somebody talk about that really hard subject matter.

00:53:29.000 But I don't believe that you can't make it funny, and I don't believe joking about it, if you joke about it the right way, or a way that you feel good about, is ever selling yourself out.

00:53:39.000 If you're doing self-deprecation, well then find another way to tell your story.

00:53:44.000 But I didn't hate it at all.

00:53:45.000 Maybe because I went in with negative expectations, but people were like, it's not stand-up!

00:53:50.000 I had a comedian tell me that, and I'm watching for like 40 minutes, I'm like, she's a legit comic!

00:53:53.000 I mean, whether people like it or not, she's doing punchlines, she's doing stuff, She's telling a story about her life, and then she went at the end and told the real stuff.

00:54:01.000 I hate to disagree with you, but I think it was like a 20-minute set with an hour of something special.

00:54:08.000 Because the punchline was the first portion, but then it really stood out because there was a long gap with no comedy there.

00:54:14.000 I thought that was like the last 15 minutes.

00:54:19.000 I forget what she took that got to that.

00:54:21.000 I don't remember what she did before, but I know because I was talking to Sam, my co-host, And I said to her, it was at about 40 minutes, I'm like, it feels very like just a legit stand up.

00:54:28.000 He goes, Yeah, watch the end.

00:54:29.000 It does get a little preachy.

00:54:33.000 But I don't think she needed to do that.

00:54:34.000 Like, I think that if she's like, telling her truth, again, Richard Pryor did it.

00:54:39.000 You know, you look at his 1976 album, and I don't know if you'll beep this or not, but the album is called Bicentennial Nigger. 0.82

00:54:46.000 And that's also the name of the track.

00:54:48.000 And it's a tremendously sarcastic track at the end of that record about the sarcasm of America and how black people been treated. 0.85

00:54:56.000 And it's really moving.

00:54:58.000 And it's getting left this music overlaid.

00:55:01.000 Yeah, when you listen to it, it's getting left the whole time, right?

00:55:04.000 And he's telling the truth about slavery, and how black humor started. 0.77

00:55:07.000 And it's an agonizing, awful truth.

00:55:09.000 Yeah.

00:55:10.000 And he gets laughed through the whole thing.

00:55:12.000 And the last sentence, he says something real the last Moment.

00:55:16.000 Right.

00:55:16.000 And that's it.

00:55:17.000 And it hits you like a shovel.

00:55:19.000 So to me, like, that's how a guy who tells a very sad truth does it as a brilliant comic.

00:55:24.000 I'm not going to believe that just because I've said it enough times on this show when quoting other people that I don't want to be Papa John's, so you're my collateral.

00:55:31.000 So I'll be like, look, Jim Norton said it on my show, too.

00:55:33.000 With that record, with Richard Pryor, with the name of his albums, I understand the backlash against certain words, especially that word, but I'm not qualified To edit or change what that genius called his record.

00:55:48.000 I'm sorry, I'm just not.

00:55:49.000 That's what he chose to call it, and that's the name of the record.

00:55:52.000 But the final bit, which is the title track... Hold on a second.

00:55:56.000 That's really insightful, what you just said.

00:55:57.000 I think a lot of people don't realize what they're watching sometimes when, obviously when we have an interview with you, but the more I listen to you, that's a very insightful way of putting it.

00:56:05.000 If people are listening, if they have ears to hear, you don't have the right to edit Pryor's material.

00:56:11.000 He wanted it that way, and some rich white guy in Greenwich Village shouldn't be the one to change that.

00:56:16.000 But yeah, you know, I think it's probably with the Hannah Gatsby, if you go in with those expectations, it's kind of like going... I'm trying to think of, like, Keeping Up with the Joneses was a comedy that I watched, and I saw it on an airplane, and I had no expectations.

00:56:27.000 And I was like, eh, it was alright.

00:56:28.000 But then someone who paid for the ticket was pretty pissed.

00:56:31.000 That being said, there's still some that I just hate, even when I see it on an airplane, like the washer.

00:56:34.000 I turned away from the screen.

00:56:36.000 Um, it was that bad.

00:56:38.000 I think I'm in the lonesome with the Watchmen.

00:56:40.000 You ever see the Watchmen?

00:56:41.000 I've only heard, this is the first negative thing I've heard, but I haven't watched it myself, so I don't know.

00:56:44.000 It's just so bleak for the sake of being bleak.

00:56:48.000 Okay.

00:56:48.000 This is one thing, though, you know, you talk about a lot of painful issues, obviously, and you certainly get into some controversial issues.

00:56:54.000 Doesn't it, this is kind of my issue with not just that special, but this idea now of people policing what we can and can't say.

00:57:00.000 That is, and Richard Pryor was a great example, One of the primary purposes of comedy is being able to... I think Phyllis Diller made the quote, and we've talked about this before, it's a rubber-tipped sword, a way to make a point without drawing blood.

00:57:12.000 So to condemn the idea... I think it was Phyllis Diller.

00:57:15.000 Do you know who said that?

00:57:16.000 No, I've never heard that, but that's actually good.

00:57:18.000 Okay, it's definitely not mine, but I can never remember who said it.

00:57:21.000 You tweet me, it has to be out of people who are listening, because I don't want to be accused of plagiarizing something when I clearly tried to attribute the quote.

00:57:26.000 You did present it as a quote of somebody else.

00:57:28.000 I tried to as best I could but that is a primary purpose of comedy so for the media to jump on board

00:57:34.000 and anyone in comedy to suggest otherwise to me is that very kind of slippery slope of someone

00:57:41.000 declaring self humiliate self-deprecation is humiliation that's to declare a lot of comedy

00:57:47.000 not just your own I don't care what Gatsby thinks of her own stuff but that's to declare I mean

00:57:51.000 Brian Regan his whole act is basically self-deprecation right but it's not humiliation

00:57:56.000 Right, yeah, and he's great and he's brilliant at it.

00:57:58.000 That's when I get, ooh, my antennae go up, when you try to declare someone else's comedy not valid or not acceptable.

00:58:05.000 I'm sorry, Steven, yeah, and I agree with you, because I think that she goes wrong when she says self-deprecation is humiliating, because it's not.

00:58:12.000 There's something very honest. 0.97

00:58:14.000 If you're up there and you're fat, and you're just going, look at me, I'm a big fat pig, like, then maybe you're deprecating yourself or humiliating yourself. 0.98

00:58:20.000 But if you're telling the truth about the way you see things. 0.99

00:58:23.000 Like I've told the truth about like hating myself or whatever.

00:58:26.000 A lot of people do.

00:58:27.000 I'm not unique in that. 0.99

00:58:28.000 I'm just voicing what this little stupid thing tells me in my head all day and I'm trying to make it funny. 0.97

00:58:34.000 But I'm not selling myself out and I'm not being dishonest. 0.99

00:58:36.000 I'm just telling the truth about what I know is a flawed perception.

00:58:39.000 Right.

00:58:40.000 Yeah, well, I think it comes down to the same through line whether we're talking politics, talking media, or talking comedy.

00:58:44.000 It's just, it's interesting people often use the word my truth, but in this case it's someone trying to dictate it to someone else.

00:58:49.000 Like, listen, comedy is comedy.

00:58:50.000 You don't have to like it.

00:58:51.000 It is entirely subjective.

00:58:53.000 There's a certain quality measurement.

00:58:53.000 I understand that.

00:58:56.000 And I would put you right up there.

00:58:57.000 And Nick DiPaolo, of course, as well.

00:58:59.000 He was on the show recently.

00:59:00.000 Nick's the funniest guy.

00:59:01.000 He is so funny, and I don't think that he gets the credit he deserves just because he's sort of a, he's technology averse.

00:59:08.000 Yeah.

00:59:08.000 And he's also more conservative.

00:59:10.000 And look, the reality is in entertainment, like look what they just did to Alex Jones.

00:59:14.000 Look, lover, I hate Alex Jones.

00:59:15.000 I get why people don't, I don't like a lot of the stuff he says. 0.96

00:59:17.000 I don't like a lot of his dumb conspiracies, but he should be able to say whatever he wants.

00:59:22.000 That frightens me when people's right to say stuff that I don't like or you don't like is taken away. 0.98

00:59:26.000 It's crazy.

00:59:27.000 That being said, we could put you in a carriage and you'd probably make a good baby crisis actor if we ever needed you to. 0.83

00:59:32.000 You know, I would be happy to do that, too, because I can't get a gig doing anything else. 0.99

00:59:35.000 So, look, if you need me to run in, oh my god, there's dipshit everywhere! 0.98

00:59:38.000 I don't know what happened! 0.98

00:59:39.000 That's how I would do it.

00:59:40.000 Yes, exactly.

00:59:43.000 I love how your voice, I think, always has a little bit of Cagney in it for some reason.

00:59:46.000 I don't know what happened!

00:59:49.000 Oh yeah, I don't know what happened, Shane.

00:59:50.000 It was a problem, Shane.

00:59:52.000 Baby Cagney.

00:59:53.000 All right, this went off the rails.

00:59:54.000 It is at Jim Norton, Hilarities in Cleveland.

00:59:56.000 Highly recommend you go check him out on August 17th and 18th.

00:59:59.000 JimNorton.com and the podcast is everywhere as long as iTunes and these other places still allow it.

01:00:03.000 Jim, we gotta go.

01:00:04.000 Thank you, sir.

01:00:04.000 All right, thank you, buddy.

01:00:06.000 I'll talk to you again.

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01:00:49.000 So, so

01:01:09.000 so Thank you Ben Shapiro and Jim Norton.

01:01:32.000 Uh Next week, incredible week of shows, and we're going to have Owen Benjamin here all week, taping some sketches.

01:01:38.000 Going to be a lot of fun.

01:01:39.000 And yes, we talked about it earlier, so we teased it, and it is with a heavy heart that actually, at Not-K-Jared, The character, as it were, will be retired after this program, Nakajiri.

01:01:51.000 We'll be moving on to... I guess you say greener pastures.

01:01:56.000 People always confuse that with taking behind the barn.

01:01:58.000 No, no, greener pastures means good things.

01:02:01.000 But let them know, you have some stuff going on.

01:02:03.000 Yeah, there is a lovely missus in my life, and a lovely lady, and I will be joined by another lovely lady in just a few short months.

01:02:12.000 Is it true?

01:02:12.000 So, uh, I'm very excited.

01:02:14.000 So you're really not gay?

01:02:16.000 I've done some really not gay stuff.

01:02:18.000 Honestly, let me clarify here, too, to be clear.

01:02:20.000 It's not like NotGayJay was fired because he decided to have a kid.

01:02:24.000 No, no, no.

01:02:25.000 For those who don't know... Oh, you're pregnant?

01:02:27.000 Yes.

01:02:27.000 Oh, you're fired.

01:02:28.000 There's exponential growth, obviously, with the show, and a lot of new pressures and expectations.

01:02:33.000 And, listen, you just, I mean... The hours it takes...

01:02:36.000 To put in the show is just pretty crazy and we work really darn hard and yeah, it's just a good time.

01:02:43.000 Move on to making babies and there you go. 0.84

01:02:47.000 Was never gay. 0.97

01:02:48.000 A lot of people, by the way, tweet me at S Crowder the first episode that Not Gay Jared appeared.

01:02:54.000 I don't even think I remember that.

01:02:55.000 No, no, no.

01:02:55.000 I think we talked about it this year sometime.

01:02:58.000 Did we?

01:02:58.000 I think we did.

01:02:59.000 I dug it up like a couple of months ago and I don't remember which one it is.

01:03:03.000 Rough guess.

01:03:03.000 Yeah.

01:03:04.000 And that just because, do you remember how it started?

01:03:06.000 Yeah, you said, hey, I have a producer here, Gay Jared, what do you have to say? 0.68

01:03:11.000 No, I said, who also happens to be gay. 0.56

01:03:13.000 And I just said it as a joke because I think you had told me that gay guys come on to you quite a bit.

01:03:18.000 All the time.

01:03:19.000 Right.

01:03:19.000 Apparently, I like your shoes is a common pickup line in H&M.

01:03:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:23.000 I get that all the time.

01:03:24.000 I'm like, I was wearing flip flops.

01:03:26.000 You're actually very fortunate that they use that as an opening.

01:03:29.000 Often they don't even talk.

01:03:30.000 I know, they don't even talk, they just escort me to the changing room.

01:03:33.000 Clean you forward.

01:03:34.000 And then after that, a lot of people started their own conspiracy as to whether you were gay or not, because you kept saying you weren't gay, and we said, okay, well, let's go with this, and the Not Gay Jared character was born, and you had to keep your missus under wraps for a long time.

01:03:46.000 I was pretty sure it was under your contract!

01:03:49.000 I think a few times on the show I accidentally said something about it.

01:03:54.000 We actually bleeped it at times.

01:03:56.000 References in the early days.

01:03:58.000 Yeah, I remember that.

01:03:59.000 In the early days it was out of my den in Michigan and we had no idea what we were doing.

01:04:05.000 None at all.

01:04:05.000 We were just, we were on radio.

01:04:06.000 But it was back then, it was, you want to talk about sort of providential.

01:04:10.000 The day Jared became equipped at producing this as a podcast was the day the station that carried us would no longer carry the show because of some of the jokes that we had made.

01:04:21.000 We're like, hey, let's try this video and let's try Thursday night instead of Friday morning at 6am.

01:04:21.000 Yeah.

01:04:25.000 We're like, yeah, good.

01:04:26.000 Because we're not, that's the only option.

01:04:28.000 We had a producer who said, I'm not, yeah, you're jokes.

01:04:30.000 We can't do this.

01:04:31.000 And we're like, well, okay.

01:04:32.000 Okay.

01:04:33.000 All right.

01:04:34.000 And then they ended up carrying the show anyway that we produced.

01:04:34.000 Yeah.

01:04:37.000 That we produced.

01:04:38.000 Yeah.

01:04:38.000 Because it's crazy.

01:04:39.000 It was a weird, weird transition.

01:04:41.000 And then eventually they dropped it all together.

01:04:41.000 It was weird.

01:04:43.000 So, it was still.

01:04:44.000 Too many people.

01:04:45.000 Well, no, that's because we didn't want to do three.

01:04:46.000 That's how all the commercials too started.

01:04:47.000 Remember, we just, we had all these local ads that would play.

01:04:50.000 Yeah.

01:04:51.000 And we just made stuff up for the first few.

01:04:51.000 And we were like, well, what can we do?

01:04:53.000 The first ones we used to do, if you remember, I think the first one we ever did

01:04:56.000 was a fake emergency system warning.

01:04:59.000 Yeah, that was very against the law.

01:05:00.000 And apparently, that's like highly illegal.

01:05:02.000 It's like, ah, ah, ah, ah, Velociraptor warning.

01:05:06.000 Yeah, a Lennon Dunham warning, Reese Witherspoon movie warning.

01:05:12.000 And we were saved because it was, technically it never made air on terrestrial radio.

01:05:16.000 But we could have gotten really screwed.

01:05:18.000 Yeah, we could have. 0.77

01:05:20.000 That and Dating Advice with Bill Cosby were the first commercials.

01:05:22.000 Yep, those ones.

01:05:24.000 Followed shortly by Dish of Insure.

01:05:26.000 That's true.

01:05:27.000 Jesse Ventura.

01:05:28.000 It's funny, back then we bought the costume for Jesse Ventura.

01:05:32.000 Like, oh, when we go to video.

01:05:33.000 And we just never ended up doing it.

01:05:34.000 Because it's a wrestling Speedo.

01:05:36.000 It is.

01:05:37.000 It takes some buy-in.

01:05:38.000 Highly reflective, too.

01:05:39.000 Not so great on green screen.

01:05:40.000 I haven't quite invested in it yet.

01:05:41.000 And that's where you met Gerald, of course, on the show.

01:05:43.000 Yeah.

01:05:44.000 We had some beers, and all of a sudden, about a beer and a half in, Jared's drunk.

01:05:47.000 I was gone.

01:05:47.000 I'm gone.

01:05:48.000 It's true.

01:05:49.000 Walking down the wall.

01:05:50.000 And by the way, we are going to have a montage here of some Not Get Hurt best memories in just a minute.

01:05:55.000 So what would you say your best memory is on the show?

01:05:58.000 Oh, gosh. 0.98

01:06:00.000 Probably dressed as a tranny, taking a dump on the Texas Capitol in the ladies' restroom. 1.00

01:06:06.000 Wait, what? 0.99

01:06:07.000 When did we do this?

01:06:09.000 Right before you interviewed Wendy Davis.

01:06:11.000 Oh, okay!

01:06:11.000 I was like, that's not on tape!

01:06:13.000 Actually, I'm pretty sure we do have tape.

01:06:16.000 I'm pretty sure we have tape.

01:06:18.000 Because, by the way, at that point, it just had a camera that was always running.

01:06:21.000 We never thought we were going to get an interview with Wendy Davis.

01:06:23.000 No.

01:06:24.000 And then she's like, oh, transgender, come on up! 1.00

01:06:26.000 Sometimes gifts happen.

01:06:28.000 So I took a gift and I left a gift.

01:06:30.000 That's funny.

01:06:30.000 I remember that.

01:06:31.000 I would say my most memorable, that we would probably, Utah was a big one because we wanted to put bullets in our brains because that was non-stop work, but it was one of the biggest things we'd ever done.

01:06:41.000 We almost met up with the Hodgetwins while we were there.

01:06:43.000 That's true, but we couldn't because they were doing shows.

01:06:46.000 That was the first time we went.

01:06:46.000 Yeah, that was really memorable.

01:06:48.000 And then in line with kind of what you talked about on the Michigan Capitol, if you go back and we did the I'm Just a Bill Transgender.

01:06:52.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:06:53.000 How many days did I work on that dumb costume? 1.00

01:06:56.000 It was you and your wife. 1.00

01:06:58.000 I made it from scratch.

01:07:00.000 With bed foam.

01:07:02.000 Bed foam and sharpies.

01:07:03.000 And we didn't have a green screen, so we had to put it down in my living room.

01:07:06.000 And we cheated it, where some of the shots you see are green screen, and then some of them were actually shot on the Lansing Capitol steps, which was a far drive for us at the time.

01:07:15.000 And while we were taping it, a state senator?

01:07:18.000 A super far left Democratic lady. 0.94

01:07:20.000 A super far left Black lady came up and said, But that's great how you educate and she's like, can I take a picture? 1.00

01:07:24.000 Yeah, they were like, please do.

01:07:26.000 Please do!

01:07:26.000 And she uploaded it to Instagram.

01:07:27.000 We retweeted her.

01:07:28.000 Yes.

01:07:29.000 And that was our first.

01:07:29.000 It was great.

01:07:29.000 It was an accidental troll job.

01:07:31.000 Wow.

01:07:31.000 It was.

01:07:33.000 Before we did, I think it was before we did any of the serious undercover stuff.

01:07:36.000 She hates you by the way. 0.93

01:07:37.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure she does.

01:07:39.000 I got a present for you.

01:07:41.000 That's right, you got a present for me.

01:07:42.000 Which is terrible because I didn't get you anything.

01:07:44.000 That's okay.

01:07:44.000 I really hope it's spiders.

01:07:45.000 Yeah, so I'm a little bit nervous because this is not typically the way we do things.

01:07:49.000 Those brown ones, I hear those are fun.

01:07:51.000 Alright, uh, I'm using a knife here, so if something goes wrong for those who are listening, audio.

01:07:55.000 Yeah, apparently, I didn't have any wrapping tape, so I used boxing tape and wrapped... It's very considerate of you, but this is a terrible wrapping.

01:08:04.000 It is pretty terrible.

01:08:04.000 Well, I thought, it was a little gloomy outside, I'm like, it could rain, so I wrapped it completely with tape.

01:08:10.000 Alright.

01:08:10.000 Probably could have put it in the bag.

01:08:12.000 This is all tape!

01:08:13.000 Oh my gosh.

01:08:15.000 This is all tape!

01:08:16.000 We're making progress.

01:08:18.000 Oh, thank you very much!

01:08:19.000 For people who can't see, it's...

01:08:21.000 Here, this is the original Stretch Armstrong.

01:08:24.000 Oh, nice!

01:08:25.000 It's very touching, but I'm not going to cry because I told myself I wouldn't.

01:08:27.000 Don't cry!

01:08:28.000 Don't do it!

01:08:29.000 I did it before being on air.

01:08:31.000 Got it out of the way.

01:08:32.000 And I took some bourbon.

01:08:34.000 Some people it turns them emotional.

01:08:36.000 No, this is because for people who don't remember, we couldn't afford the original Stretch Armstrong.

01:08:39.000 We couldn't afford the creepy crawler.

01:08:40.000 So I had the mini Stretch Armstrong and it broke very quickly.

01:08:43.000 That was very thoughtful of you.

01:08:44.000 I really do appreciate it.

01:08:45.000 And we are for sure going to miss you quite a bit here at the show.

01:08:50.000 Your size fours will be impossible. 0.97

01:08:52.000 But we do have a montage to get to. 0.97

01:08:56.000 And by the way, I keep wanting to say not gay, Jared. 1.00

01:08:59.000 Jared!

01:09:00.000 Won't be doing this, but you might come back every now and then for sketches and stuff like that.

01:09:03.000 Yeah, I'll be around.

01:09:03.000 I will not be a stranger.

01:09:04.000 Yeah, he's not going to be a complete stranger, and we do... Some college dates or some... all kinds of things I would like to be around for.

01:09:10.000 Yeah, I forgot about all the college dates.

01:09:12.000 It's great, but it's like, it is just very, very difficult.

01:09:17.000 This ain't the Ben Shapiro show, okay?

01:09:20.000 It's like you have Tranny Bane coming out, and motor scooters, and smoke machines, and lights, and it's like, oh, we gotta do this again.

01:09:27.000 Champagne to use on segways.

01:09:29.000 Yes, yes.

01:09:30.000 We don't have the budget for it, but if we did, that would be awesome.

01:09:33.000 But it's hard to fill your shoes, but we are, you do, this is kind of a thing like with fighters.

01:09:37.000 You have to put the next guy over the top.

01:09:39.000 We are, there's a, you're passing the torch.

01:09:41.000 I am passing the torch.

01:09:42.000 To our very own, it's actually good, because I always wanted, we always wanted to hire a black guy, and we had black guys who applied.

01:09:48.000 You can make a lot more jokes.

01:09:49.000 Yes, jokes category just expands. Yes, and we had a lot of black applicants for but they weren't actually video adept 0.78

01:09:55.000 They wanted to write true, but actually you know him as as key grip Garrett, but he's a quarter black. He's quarter 0.99

01:10:00.000 black so yeah, not gay Jared the the seat I guess is uh 0.95

01:10:05.000 is he's gonna be leaving the last time there not gay Jared and 0.99

01:10:09.000 There we go to come on in is key grip Garrett who is a quarter black 1.00

01:10:14.000 You've helped us of course with some hidden cameras, and you are right you can confirm this yes

01:10:18.000 I can confirm my leave Jim Norton earlier Yeah, that was based on that. Oh god. Not a real

01:10:24.000 cut to the montage What would you do if I say?

01:10:30.000 attitude Would you stand up and walk out on me? 0.99

01:10:37.000 Lay out on me your ears and I'll sing you a song I will try not to sing out of key

01:10:46.000 Oh baby, how do you like it?

01:10:49.000 All I need is my body I said I'm gonna get high

01:10:58.000 I'm gonna get high Thanks for watching!

01:11:03.000 Thanks for having me!

01:11:16.000 Me so happy!

01:11:19.000 Hey guys!

01:11:19.000 Hey guys! I beat a girl! Oh shit! Ah! You can call me now, but I'm not going to be a

01:11:46.000 You call me not your daddy.

01:11:50.000 Okay.

01:11:50.000 And this is my esteemed colleague, Oliver Barnsley.

Louder with Crowder - August 10, 2018

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