On this week's episode of the Loud and Clear, the crew discusses the latest in the Trump administration, including the latest controversy surrounding the Supreme Court case against him and his supporters, as well as the recent Google video scandal and much, much more. Plus, we have a special guest on the show this week.
00:02:20.000Let me ask this question of the day before we continue.
00:02:22.000Obviously we're generally against government over-regulation, but you'll see these videos leaked from Google a little later in the show if you haven't seen them yet.
00:02:29.000And you think of just how powerful these companies are.
00:02:32.000The stranglehold they have on information.
00:04:12.000That's the white version, don't worry.
00:04:14.000But our lead story, before we get to Google, Hurricane Florence, obviously, due to hit the Carolinas, and some have already begun blaming Donald Trump.
00:09:12.000You're just supposed to feel better about yourself.
00:09:13.000You're gonna wake up tomorrow and be like, oh, I got bit by a spider, I guess.
00:09:15.000Feel better about yourself because of the people who live in the favelas in Brazil.
00:09:19.000And, you know, they look at the favelas, they look at where they're living, and they're dirt homes, and then someone goes, oh, you want to leave?
00:09:41.000Because Iceland and Greenland was a PR move by the Vikings.
00:09:44.000Yeah, I know, and I learned that from Mighty Ducks, too.
00:09:47.000Finally, Gordon Bombay got his groove back.
00:09:50.000Tess Holliday is calling out a website for selling a fat-is-not-beautiful sweatshirt.
00:09:55.000This one comes to us from HuffPo, not quite a science journal.
00:09:57.000But Tess Holliday, the site fashionista, UK-based artist, Florence Given, as well as many others on social media, denounced the $168 sweatshirt made by the brand LPA.
00:10:09.000This was, I hate to address, but this was trending everywhere, of course, and Tess Holliday has actually personally called us out on this show.
00:10:16.000By the way, we don't dislike big women, just Tess Holliday.
00:11:57.000You'd think almost it should be at least... Are they scrubs when you come out?
00:12:00.000What is it like the boy in the pajamas in the World War II thing that looks like you're wearing them when you go to the hospital and your ass is hanging out the back?
00:12:46.000Actually, the number one selling piece of clothing, the From Tess Holiday, which makes sense, but it's actually in Texas, of course, so it's been selling really well across the southern portion of the state.
00:12:55.000Well, that sounds kind of... Oh, well, okay.
00:13:56.000If you heard me this whole show struggling to try and find the word, looking like an idiot, going, it's something about erections that sounds like protoplasm, would you not immediately be like, priapism?
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00:14:57.000It's the only thing that keeps this going, and as you'll see in this next segment, They're blatant about it.
00:15:02.000The left, we just talked about this with Norm yesterday, but to give you some context.
00:15:06.000First off, it is also hilarious when you watch these videos.
00:15:10.000Some hilarious videos from Google that show the leadership having actual tearful meltdowns after the election, determining how they're going to use their powers to stop Trump.
00:18:11.000You wouldn't be able to complain about it because you'd be in The Handmaid's Tale.
00:18:14.000I don't know what we're talking about now, but I will say this, because they are actors, but I will say this.
00:18:20.000This dystopian future, it can only exist.
00:18:23.000It can only be created by the progressive left.
00:18:25.000That's what I think, people use this old Handmaid's Tale, or what was it, The Purge, they did another one, it was like, oh, under Donald Trump, and he's silencing all this.
00:18:33.000So allow me to explain the dystopian, horrible, 84 future can only exist with the left.
00:18:40.000With a Republican president, And how's the left?
00:18:42.000They still have the media, the entertainment industry, education, the entire tech industry, which, by the way, is unthinkably powerful, arguably the most powerful entity in all of our modern era.
00:19:04.000Let's imagine a parallel universe where all of the tech giants, spreading their propaganda, And the left sees power of all major political branches.
00:21:26.000There's always going to be some form of a check and balance on the right.
00:21:30.000It doesn't matter what office we hold.
00:21:31.000It doesn't matter if we have a YouTube channel.
00:21:33.000It doesn't matter if we have the biggest late night podcast on YouTube right now.
00:21:36.000It doesn't matter if we're bigger than Seth Meyers or a lot of these late night programs that have so much more money because they do have the entire entertainment industry in the media.
00:21:44.000There will always be checks and balances against Republicans.
00:21:51.000I think that when we talk about TV, film, music, news, YouTube, Hulu, Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, Google, they're all part of one industry.
00:21:59.000I'm almost tired of you saying the media.
00:22:15.000Yeah, and that's why it's important we keep our family strong, because it's good to get your information from, like, your dad or your grandfather.
00:23:59.000Let's just actually look at their proposed legislation.
00:24:02.000Here, picture a world where guns are confiscated from citizens so that only the government has them.
00:24:08.000Well, that's being proposed right now!
00:24:12.000It's a proposal with an ad nauseum, but specifically, let's just take California, the congressman, Eric Solwell, I think, yeah, he's actually proposing that, and he's just even saying it in those words.
00:24:19.000Of course, left-wing, you can go to New York Times, Miami Herald, Rolling Stone, this has been proposed for a very long time.
00:24:24.000Here's another example, we're talking about dystopian futures, where there's the balance of authority.
00:24:28.000Picture a world where we create pronoun laws based on ideology rather than any kind of science invented by those in power to enforce fines and, by the way, prison sentences.
00:24:36.000It already happens in New York, California, not to mention Canada.
00:25:24.000Imagine some kind of a world where, okay, citizens don't have guns, only the government does, citizens can't speak freely, citizens can't use biologically proper pronouns, and they must inject their children with hormone blockers or face losing their children.
00:26:04.000They don't exist in culture when it comes to the information.
00:26:07.000The internet is kind of allowing that for a little bit.
00:26:10.000I mean, you and I have struggled with this, where we lost our management and agents, but now you're selling out shows because of the internet.
00:27:21.000Anyway, though, are any right-wing politicians anywhere in the United States advocating for laws that include throwing those who disagree with them in jail on the basis of speech, hormone blockers?
00:27:33.000But what would stop the left when Google, arguably the most powerful tech company in the world, the entire misinformation industry, again, that includes media, Hollywood, big tech, is going to catch on sooner or later.
00:27:43.000What would happen when they would be openly conspiring to enact this sort of authoritarian agenda together?
00:28:13.000Dude, I'd have the Braveheart paint on.
00:28:17.000You should, and you should have urinated yourself faster than Gerald is going to empty his medicine cabinet before we go check during the break.
00:28:44.000There's one guest, and we're gonna be talking about some things, maybe off the beaten path.
00:28:49.000Different side of Ben and myself that maybe you haven't necessarily seen before, and I think he's probably going to try and make me cry because I saw his show prep.
00:30:23.000Probably not going as well for me as it is for you because, my gosh, you have so much going on.
00:30:26.000You just, since we last spoke, you launched an American podcast right at Enforage.com, I believe is where people can find it.
00:30:33.000You're going to be going on a tour, restarting sort of the Brexit campaign again.
00:30:38.000I mean, you have a double-decker bus you were just telling me during the break.
00:30:41.000Yeah, big open top double-decker bus, loudspeakers, music, noise, colour, fun, get out and meet people.
00:30:48.000What I want to do is I want to get the British public to tell their Members of Parliament not to betray Brexit.
00:30:54.000Because if they do that, tell them we'll never ever vote for you again.
00:30:58.000Because it's really interesting this, the British people voted to be free, not to be governed by these bureaucrats in Brussels, to be a free country.
00:31:07.000And our gutless politicians are trying to water Brexit down.
00:31:11.000So I'm sort of getting back into the front lines of Brexit, if you like.
00:31:15.000Yes, well, the double-decker bus, it sounds much more like a Dr. Seuss vehicle or a party than it does a political campaign.
00:32:21.000I said, look, you know, there's no question on Facebook, because of your algorithm changes, conservative voices, their traffic is down about 25% now from 18 months ago.
00:34:16.000The one thing I think that everyone should be on board with, at least a first step, is transparency in business practices.
00:34:22.000because you have conservatives who are paying to advertise on these platforms,
00:34:26.000often have employees of Facebook or Google or Twitter running ad campaigns
00:34:30.000for these conservatives and they're subsequently banned or their content is.
00:34:34.000So what do you think the right steps are when you say it needs to be regulated?
00:34:38.000I know you'll talk about it in 20th, but can you give us any kind of sneak
00:34:42.000peek as to what you think? I think clearly judging, you know, what is liberal
00:34:46.000and what is conservative at times is quite subjective.
00:34:49.000So I'm not saying this is going to be easy, but if you have a regulator, if you have somebody monitoring, making sure that opposing opinions but within the reasonable parameters of democratic debate Just call him Mark.
00:35:03.000play in terms of search and in terms of reach. And if as a user you're unhappy, you make
00:35:09.000a complaint, you have a regulator that's got the ability to take action or to fine a company
00:35:14.000if it seemed to be biased. Look, all I'm doing here is quoting my close personal friend Mark
00:36:10.000It's them continuing to pretend that everything is fine, that nothing has changed, when you can quite clearly see from the traffic that everything has changed.
00:36:20.000They're being allowed to get away with it.
00:36:22.000And the trouble is that most lawmakers, because they're so powerful, these companies, most lawmakers haven't got the guts to stand up to them.
00:36:29.000Now, the one man who has got the guts and could really do something here is Donald Trump.
00:36:36.000He's already appointed Well, I would like to see you there with him.
00:36:48.000I would like to see you specifically tackling this issue.
00:36:51.000I think Donald Trump could do it, but I think you are obviously very linguistically gifted
00:36:55.000and could just make mincemeat of Mark Zuckerberg.
00:36:58.000Mark, I'm going to call him Mark from now on.
00:37:08.000You know, an example with Facebook, I don't know if you know this, there was an article
00:37:11.000that came out in Engadget or TechCrunch, one of these tech magazines, and this is when
00:37:15.000they were saying back then, remember it was all algorithmic, well someone leaked a memo
00:37:19.000at Facebook where there were 10 people to manually throttle.
00:37:23.000Ted Cruz for president was one of them, I think Breitbart was one of them, I know the Chris Kyle Foundation was one of them, and yours truly.
00:37:31.000One of these things is not like the other, and it's because, specifically, our content as a small website did very, very well comparatively, and we settled out of court.
00:37:42.000I learned it the same time everybody else did, through the press, because it was a leak.
00:37:46.000Look at what's happened to Alex Jones.
00:37:48.000Now, whatever you think of Alex Jones, whatever you make of Alex Jones's content, he's effectively been completely banned across many of these platforms.
00:37:55.000Now, that is the behaviour that you would expect of a communist or fascist state.
00:38:01.000So there are some real issues and concerns here.
00:38:15.000And one final issue I would like to bring up.
00:38:16.000People talk about net neutrality a lot.
00:38:18.000When people used to talk about this, net neutrality, I was saying, hold on a second, you're talking about ISPs as monopolies.
00:38:23.000Interesting fact, Netflix, Google, Facebook, Twitter, they all supported net neutrality.
00:38:29.000People need to do a little bit of research on that, and then when we talk about using these social media companies, regulating them as public utilities, they have a much stronger stranglehold on the information delivery than your local ISP.
00:38:54.000So, the boss man of the European Union is a guy called John Claude Juncker, or known as John Claude Drunker, because he likes a few glasses of wine at lunchtime, in fact.
00:39:08.000He's pretty useless in the afternoons.
00:40:01.000And coming from you, I heard a rumor that you obviously like your pints, but you drink, is this true?
00:40:05.000I heard, you can confirm or deny it, that you drink something like a liter and a half of water every night you go home if you've had quite a few beers.
00:40:14.000If you've been out, had a few beers or a few glasses of wine at dinner, you want to wake up the next morning ready for action, drink three big glasses of water before you go to bed and you'll wake up and you'll feel magic.
00:40:28.000Now, the trouble is the doctors will tell you Farage is encouraging people to drink alcohol.
00:40:32.000Well, I'll tell you what, a little bit of what you fancy does you good.
00:41:14.000Yeah, especially considering how the segment went today.
00:41:16.000I don't think that people know that you're joking.
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00:43:56.000This is something I want to get your take on.
00:43:57.000Did you see the videos recently that were internal but they were leaked of the Google executives and employees freaking out after the election?
00:44:14.000People were literally weeping, weeping.
00:44:16.000We have to do, we will do everything in our power to stop these Trump voters and to stop this movement.
00:44:20.000So they were saying this behind closed doors.
00:44:22.000Google, they were saying at these big tech companies when they don't think Which is odd to me, because they're a tech company, and they're clearly filming this for an internal video.
00:44:30.000Do you not understand this is going to get out?
00:44:33.000And they were saying that they would do anything they could to stop this groundswell, this movement.
00:44:39.000As someone who really, listen, obviously you've fought in the UFC, and you've worked on traditional television quite a bit, but your bread and butter here is your podcast.
00:44:46.000You have the biggest MMA podcast, I think, around, and you tend to be right-leaning.
00:47:43.000Here's a controversial opinion we'll get into.
00:47:44.000We'll go back to politics here in a second, but you and I, I think both agree, you wrote about this in your book, that Chinatown was a better film that year than The Godfather.
00:48:22.000And Steven, I feel that I can prove it.
00:48:25.000How could I possibly prove an opinion?
00:48:27.000I feel that I could prove, look, The Sopranos was terrible, it was painful, it was painfully awful, but now that we have time that's separated, I will challenge some people when I tell them what a piece of crap it was.
00:48:37.000And I have no idea why industry insiders, it doesn't matter if you're the camera guy, if you're the lighting guy, if you're an aspiring director, Everybody bows down to that piece of garbage.
00:48:47.000And I'll go, okay guys, well there's been enough time separated.
00:48:50.000None of you have ever, how many times you've ever re-watched it and they all stand there and go, well none.
00:48:54.000Okay, well how many box sets have you sent out as Christmas presents like a lot of people did with Seinfeld, which was a great show?
00:49:27.000You know what, The Wire is actually the number two ranked show of all time, and I feel that that is greatly embellished.
00:49:33.000I don't even think the production, and I did like the storyline behind it from Entertainment, I was entertained with Street Life and the way they did it, but I even thought the production level for where HBO was and the budget that they have, I thought it was a very simply made television show.
00:49:48.000I liked it, I must admit I liked it, but the number two ranking of all time?
00:50:22.000He flipped the lawyer and the lawyer ends up falling in love with him and bringing him drugs.
00:50:26.000Did they ever make a second They didn't, but it was one of those shows, it was so well done, that I actually had to take a break from it for a couple episodes because it was a stressful point in my life and it was giving me too much anxiety.
00:50:38.000I always tell this to people, and everyone who comes back and says, I finally watched the show, you're right, you go, oh my gosh, they're gonna hang this kid, he didn't do it, to the next episode, you're like, he did it for sure, I wanna watch him Friday, to the next episode, ah, I can't believe this twist!
00:50:49.000It is an amazing show, and it doesn't seem like enough people really give it the credit it deserves compared to The Wire.
00:50:55.000I would fully agree with you, and that is an award-winning show because they did character development on that and the story was really well told, and I agree.
00:53:29.000See, this is the beauty of being your own boss.
00:53:31.000When people watch this and they get inspired by you, the thing they should be inspired about is not just sitting in a cool studio wearing a cool long-sleeved shirt, I must add.
00:53:38.000You're going to have to tell me that brand.
00:53:41.000You should be able to say what you want and not have to go into HR.
00:54:22.000In Nassau Coliseum, which is right by you.
00:54:25.000Now, did I hear that, Little Birdy, are you going to be doing a show that dives a little bit more into politics, culture, or are you just sticking with the MMA right now?
00:54:33.000Because a lot of people know you from MMA, but a lot of the younger people don't know that you have a pretty long history of being outspoken politically.
00:54:41.000Well, I'll tell you, politics is my favorite sport.
00:54:44.000And for a lot of people, it bores them.
00:54:46.000You and I are on the other side, but we really enjoy it.
00:54:48.000But for a lot of people, they find it boring.
00:55:27.000You know, with your mind and with your body language and to captivate and win over and crowd an audience and inspire people.
00:55:33.000For me, that is a sport and I'm into it and I've been into it since I was a little kid.
00:55:37.000So it's just a hobby more than anything else.
00:55:38.000Are you alarmed though, beyond the hobby side, beyond the hobby side, are you alarmed with what you're seeing from Big Tech and the banning on Twitter and on YouTube, on social media, obviously as someone who makes your bones there.
00:55:49.000Are you ever concerned that maybe you say the wrong thing and that valve gets shut off because it's happening to a lot of people?
00:55:55.000I'll tell you what, it has crossed my mind.
00:55:57.000I don't know that I personally play that fence that close, that something like that would happen.
00:56:02.000But yeah, I've been a little bit surprised.
00:56:04.000I think you're probably talking about Alex Jones.
00:56:07.000I don't know him and I haven't followed his stuff very close, but I think of him as a worker, I think of him as a performer, an entertainer.
00:56:14.000And for some reason an entertainer can get away with anything as long as they admit, I'm here to entertain.
00:56:20.000And that's where the term worker comes from.
00:56:23.000I threw that out and some people may not recognize it.
00:56:25.000That's actually an old pro wrestling term.
00:56:27.000But back in the pro wrestling days, the guys did not admit they were entertainers and they did not admit that it was a predetermined outcome.
00:56:34.000They came out as though they were competitors, and they held the secret and went out to fool the world.
00:57:00.000When athletes are trotted out in the regular to apologize for their personal worldviews, I was just wondering if that had bled in there for you, but you've kind of inoculated yourself a little bit because obviously you've been so outspoken.
00:59:49.000Thank you so much, Nigel Farage, Chael Sonnen.
00:59:51.000I know we went off the beaten path there with Chael, but he actually probably knows film and television better than anyone I can think of, who isn't directly in film or television.
01:00:44.000But here's one thing I've talked about with Ben, and I talked about this with Dennis Prager, it was in the Fireside Chat, and some people said, I'd like for you to expand upon this a little bit.
01:00:52.000And I want to sort of go back to where we were talking about the left, the culture at large, but apply it to everyone listening.
01:00:56.000You know, we kind of do this at the end of the show.
01:01:00.000Because a lot of, this is one thing Jordan Peterson has really tapped into, and I'm very, very fortunate to have this platform that we do.
01:01:07.000I think one of the greatest evils today, so let me start with this, and I see it from the left, almost exclusively, is they've ingrained it into people with a brilliant bait-and-switch, by the way.
01:01:22.000And this is one thing I actually disagree with a lot of intellectuals out there.
01:01:25.000On the right is this idea that the left has a general stronghold on compassion, and that the right has a majority stake in industriousness or productivity.
01:01:34.000That the left is compassionate to the weak, that the right is cold and sort of hell-bent on survival.
01:01:38.000You know, survival of the fittest, right?
01:03:08.000I'm not a three-year-old girl or a homosexual from Greece to hear Nick DiPaolo say it.
01:03:14.000So here's the thing though, this is what really bothers me, and then we'll get into how it applies to your life.
01:03:19.000Rather than be compassionate to the team who's earned their stick, who's earned their keep, you steal their victory, you steal their points, and you hand it to the envious.
01:04:46.000The middle class who weren't such screw-ups that they qualified for the subsidy, and they weren't wealthy enough to afford the skyrocketing costs to subsidize the premiums, the skyrocketing deductibles.
01:05:47.000The middle class Americans who responsibly saved 20 to 30 percent down for a down payment and they diligently built good credit, they didn't need the subprime loans.
01:05:56.000Which the government was effectively enforcing, right?
01:05:58.000When people say predatory lending, no one, no one lends money knowing that they won't get it back.
01:06:03.000They only do it when the government forces them to make that loan and of course backs it.
01:06:20.000The same people who were envious of those who did the exact opposite of them!
01:06:25.000And when the housing crash happened, and the envious, covetous old sinners were a year late on all of their housing payments, and the middle-class Americans, by the way, who had scraped and saved and were ready for the market to rebalance at that point to finally buy their home, hey, I've got money down!
01:07:34.000And maybe even if not, are they the person you would call to pick up your kids?
01:07:38.000Are they the person you turn to when you really need someone to trust?
01:07:42.000It is the weak among us who hurt us the most.
01:07:45.000And it doesn't mean that the strong cannot be compassionate to the weak, but this idea that solely because people are weak, and I'm not just talking about your bench press, I'm talking about weak of character, this idea that weakness exclusively means worthy of compassion, and strength means you don't need it.
01:08:02.000It's a lie, and it's not that conservatives aren't compassionate, it's that we don't buy into that lie.
01:08:08.000And here's the thing, if the progressive left wants to build a society that caters to weak people, to the weak, and more specifically, to the weak's envy, the left, they not only want a society, they don't want a society.
01:08:22.000where strength can grow, right? This is what we're talking about. This is what we ultimately we talked
01:08:26.000about this. We talked about the underdog theory that why do they why do they love Hamas when it's
01:08:30.000in their charter to kill all Jews? Because they suck, right?
01:08:33.000Because they're weak, because they're not very good. And so, all right, we're gonna go with them.
01:08:37.000They must be in the moral superior, they must have the moral high ground here. But they want
01:08:42.000society to be entirely dedicated, dictated, entirely dedicated to and dictated by the
01:08:47.000squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching covetous old sinners.
01:08:51.000The people who say, I can't afford the house, but I deserve it.
01:10:00.000Creating non-profit efforts to, meaning the weak among us, people who might be down on their luck financially, but we all give what we can, right?
01:10:06.000How often do you hear this in natural disasters?
01:11:05.000Every day, you better be getting stronger, because the only way this world stays on track, the only way this world gets saved, is by the strong among us using their strength to do right.
01:11:14.000So when I say that I don't have any time for weakness, it's not for a lack of compassion, and I hate it when people concede that territory.
01:11:20.000No, I think that conservatives are the most compassionate among us, because we want to create an atmosphere that fosters strength, which we know breeds life.
01:11:29.000as opposed to sucks it from someone's very soul.
01:11:33.000I hate that it crushes the soul, the human spirit.
01:11:38.000It's not for lack of compassion for those in need, but precisely because of it, is my point.
01:11:43.000I don't want to see the strong having their goodness stolen from them, whether it's points at a soccer game, whether it's that middle-class family who deserved to get into a home that they saved for, and by proxy, by the way, stolen from all the people who could be blessed by it.
01:11:56.000That's just something that's important.
01:12:42.000If you give into it, If you give in to the left catering to your envy, you're already a shadow of your potential, doomed to a life of weakness dominated by envy.