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00:00:00.000 Lotter with Crowder Studios, protected exclusively by Walther.

00:00:04.000 And Hopper.

00:00:05.000 Now sit back and I'm going to tell you a story.

00:00:10.000 But I'll be honest, it doesn't have a happy ending.

00:00:13.000 In fact, it doesn't have an ending at all.

00:00:16.000 Since 2015, this story has included over 3 million victims.

00:00:20.000 Some of them you may know personally.

00:00:22.000 Some of them you've never heard of.

00:00:24.000 See, YouTube never thought of Mug Club as any kind of a threat.

00:00:27.000 Here in Silicon Valley, we thought that a few hundred thousand subscribers wouldn't amount to anything.

00:00:32.000 Certainly not something to worry about.

00:00:35.000 But after deplatforming Alex Jones and Gavin McInnes as the club grew, the powers that be knew we had a problem.

00:00:42.000 With over 5,000 people a day subscribing to the channel and thousands of new Mug Club members joining each month, to say that Mug Club had become a bona fide sh** show would be the understatement of the year. 0.79

00:00:57.000 We had no idea how so many mugs were being transported right under our noses.

00:01:02.000 That is, until we found Black O' Mugskabar. 1.00

00:01:06.000 See, YouTube always thought that Mug Club would be paywall content, a problem that would solve itself once everyone got off the platform.

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00:01:24.000 He even hired a cutthroat half-Asian lawyer. 0.99

00:01:26.000 Demonetization and hard strikes didn't even seem to make a dent.

00:01:30.000 And by 2019, the elites in Silicon Valley knew they had a real problem.

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00:03:31.000 The members of the SPLC.

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00:03:39.000 We just want you to give us the little black man.

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00:04:14.000 It has to end like this. 1.00

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00:04:21.000 Stop with the hateful words.

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00:04:30.000 Just tell us.

00:04:31.000 ¿Dónde está Max Cubart?

00:04:33.000 No you

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00:04:52.000 Not the faggots. 1.00

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00:04:57.000 Motherfuckers! 1.00

00:04:58.000 All their platforms will be infected, motherfuckers! 1.00

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00:05:15.000 Facebook!

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00:05:24.000 Yes! 1.00

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00:06:01.000 🎶 You're a strange animal, that's what I know 🎶 🎶

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00:06:14.000 I'm a spirit!

00:06:16.000 you That's if I were speed bagging, but like a speed bag that was moving on one of those things in the railway.

00:06:24.000 What are those things called?

00:06:26.000 I always forget the name.

00:06:27.000 Pushcart.

00:06:28.000 Is that what they're called?

00:06:29.000 It's a pushcart.

00:06:30.000 A pushcart on a railroad?

00:06:32.000 I say we call them the ee ee ee things. 0.99

00:06:35.000 Is that what you call them? 0.96

00:06:37.000 It's the thing that goes by when Boris and Natasha are at the train tracks and then clearly gay, deadly do-right comes in and says, I'm not a homo! 0.98

00:06:47.000 But hey, we have Anthony Cumia on the show. 0.95

00:06:49.000 We're going to be talking about the government shutdown.

00:06:52.000 We had two Change My Mind installments this week.

00:06:54.000 You're welcome.

00:06:55.000 We have more super videos coming up, more long-form interviews coming up.

00:06:58.000 We're really excited about the direction of the show.

00:07:01.000 Before we move on, question of the day.

00:07:03.000 Have you personally, or how have you felt the effects from the government shutdown?

00:07:08.000 Or would you say it's just exposed how little of an impact federal government has in most, if not all, of our lives?

00:07:13.000 Genuinely, I'm interested because the media tells us it's a disaster.

00:07:18.000 Let me know below.

00:07:19.000 I want to hear from you.

00:07:20.000 Hey, in third chair today we have Rodigan McBrodie.

00:07:22.000 How are you?

00:07:23.000 Good.

00:07:23.000 I'm really excited for Anthony Comey because I kind of grew up with him in New York.

00:07:26.000 That's true because you had horrible parents.

00:07:28.000 Quarter Black Garrett is here. 1.00

00:07:29.000 Let him know.

00:07:29.000 What's up?

00:07:30.000 Too Cute Maddie with overlay.

00:07:31.000 She makes me sick.

00:07:32.000 And what's the wine of the day?

00:07:33.000 G. Morgan Jr.

00:07:33.000 We have a little bit of Morlay Pinot Noir.

00:07:35.000 More lay, which is what you always demand at the Motel 6 with Carl.

00:07:40.000 More lay!

00:07:41.000 Stop it.

00:07:42.000 Stop it.

00:07:42.000 Carl's a nice guy.

00:07:43.000 Yes.

00:07:44.000 So we're going to be talking about the government shutdown, getting through the top five myths, actually, the top lies that you've heard from the media.

00:07:49.000 Before that, of course, leading the news is that Nancy Pelosi has canceled the State of the Union, and our president quickly responded in classic fashion.

00:08:00.000 The State of the Union speech has been cancelled by Nancy Pelosi because she doesn't want to hear the truth.

00:08:08.000 She doesn't want the American public to hear what's going on.

00:08:13.000 And she's afraid of the truth. 1.00

00:08:15.000 She's afraid of hearing my address because she's an old filthy bitch. 1.00

00:08:18.000 I don't know what to tell you. 1.00

00:08:20.000 Listen, frankly, I would never say that. 1.00

00:08:21.000 They tell me, why don't you call her a dirty old bitch? 1.00

00:08:24.000 I would never say that. 1.00

00:08:25.000 That's what they tell me.

00:08:26.000 So the bickering now has been going on back and forth for 30-something days.

00:08:31.000 Let's wrap this up for you.

00:08:33.000 Currently President Trump is offering a DAC extension for the $5 or so billion in wall

00:08:37.000 funding.

00:08:38.000 While the Democrats want to reopen the government before negotiating at all, it doesn't seem

00:08:42.000 as if either side is going to come to an agreement any time soon.

00:08:44.000 As a precautionary measure in the interim, however, Border Patrol did blow up this caravan.

00:08:48.000 The video shows the caravan of people shouting, shouting, shouting.

00:08:54.000 It seems like a reasonable measure to take.

00:09:01.000 We forgot about the caravan.

00:09:03.000 Yes, we did.

00:09:04.000 That's because we don't do cable news.

00:09:05.000 It would be in a chyron 24-7.

00:09:06.000 Here's the thing.

00:09:08.000 We forgot.

00:09:08.000 Trump never does.

00:09:09.000 Trump never does.

00:09:10.000 By the way, listen, who cares about the... I'm gonna deliver, you know what I'm gonna deliver by state?

00:09:16.000 In a caravan. 0.95

00:09:18.000 In a Dodge frickin' Caravan, just to piss her off. 1.00

00:09:24.000 Because I know she's a Chevy bitch, right? 1.00

00:09:26.000 Am I right? 1.00

00:09:30.000 In murder news, the New York State Senate just passed a bill legalizing abortions up to birth.

00:09:38.000 I know what you're saying, how are you going to make this funny?

00:09:41.000 Not very well.

00:09:43.000 The bill actually restricts late-term abortions, adding a broad health exception for abortions after 24 weeks up to nine months of pregnancy for, quote, age, economic, social, and emotional factors.

00:09:56.000 Not to be outdone, 2020 candidate Kristen Gillibrand pledged to make abortion legal up until and including the ninth trimester. 0.99

00:10:02.000 So we are, yes, yeah.

00:10:04.000 I hate her so much.

00:10:05.000 Really? 0.97

00:10:06.000 She's a less authentic, more heavily scripted Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:10:10.000 I can see that. 1.00

00:10:11.000 And a blithering moron. 1.00

00:10:12.000 No, well, it seems just the second reason. 1.00

00:10:14.000 We could use a lot less Hillary Clintons in the political world right now. 1.00

00:10:17.000 I disagree.

00:10:19.000 I want to see as many Hillary Clintons as humanly possible. 1.00

00:10:22.000 No, I get it.

00:10:23.000 We have a job to do.

00:10:24.000 I can't take it, all right? 0.99

00:10:25.000 You have to listen to enough of this crap already. 0.99

00:10:27.000 That's the point. 0.99

00:10:28.000 You don't have to take it.

00:10:28.000 They always lose, but you had a point.

00:10:30.000 One of the things that pissed me off the most, they lit up, what is it, One World Trade Center?

00:10:34.000 No, the Empire State Building.

00:10:35.000 No, it was One World Trade Center, I think.

00:10:37.000 You're wrong, sir!

00:10:38.000 I'm from New York!

00:10:40.000 It's pink, and it's One World Trade Center.

00:10:42.000 One of the buildings, it was pink on the top to celebrate this.

00:10:44.000 I was like, are you serious?

00:10:46.000 I understand if you come down on the other side of this argument, but to celebrate it like that so openly when at least half of the population believes you're killing a child?

00:10:54.000 That's incredible.

00:10:55.000 To be fair though, Andrew Cuomo wants to run for president and he knows what his base is.

00:10:59.000 Yeah.

00:11:00.000 Hank on one tower, and to celebrate the abortion law, they just broadcast in a large-sized projection screen, machete on the other side.

00:11:08.000 Danny Trejo is a supporter of this law.

00:11:10.000 If that last story, by the way, didn't make you stabby enough, X-Men director, this has been going around the news sites all week, Bryan Singer is now facing new allegations, surprise, of sex with underage boys.

00:11:20.000 This comes from Mediaite.

00:11:20.000 An extensive investigation into the director found four boys, a 13-year-old, a 15-year-old, and a 17-year-old, and a 17 or 18-year-old, at this point, who can tell?

00:11:30.000 Who knows?

00:11:30.000 Who describe experiences ranging from misconduct, and as seen in the latest, I think, Access Entertainment special, all the way up to rape.

00:11:40.000 While many were initially uncomfortable with the approaches, it was only discovered to be sexual assault when they realized his name was Bryan Singer.

00:11:49.000 Singer defended himself in a statement released earlier today, claiming, none of my partners were underage.

00:11:56.000 They were all, quote, just right.

00:11:59.000 The sexual misconduct allegations range from uncomfortable to outright sexual assault.

00:12:05.000 According to an anonymous source who spoke with Entertainment Access, who's definitely not Terry Crews.

00:12:12.000 He plowed me!

00:12:15.000 He looks old.

00:12:17.000 I don't think he's a 17 year old.

00:12:18.000 No.

00:12:19.000 That's terrible.

00:12:20.000 Brian's saying you need to spend some more time in the X-Men danger room, if by danger room we mean the prison shower.

00:12:25.000 Yes, exactly.

00:12:26.000 Xavier just has a head-reading device.

00:12:28.000 I sense... 0.99

00:12:30.000 He's being raped, pretty much. 0.99

00:12:32.000 They're running a trend on him. 0.98

00:12:34.000 I heard this on TV.

00:12:34.000 You don't even have the helmet on.

00:12:36.000 I can hear it from the next room.

00:12:37.000 And I think I've talked about this before.

00:12:41.000 It's shocked and yet not surprised.

00:12:43.000 Hollywood has been spewing out some of the most degrading, terrible stuff for decades.

00:12:47.000 And we're surprised that the people that were doing that are now doing those things in real life.

00:12:52.000 I don't think we're surprised.

00:12:53.000 We just want an excuse to make some jokes.

00:12:55.000 Well, every time it comes on, it seems like they're surprised.

00:12:57.000 Moving on elsewhere in America.

00:12:59.000 Commonly referred to as Missouri.

00:13:01.000 Too cute, Maddie knows that. 0.98

00:13:02.000 She makes moonshine and meth, by the way.

00:13:04.000 Police raided a home for meth, where they also found a dead bald eagle.

00:13:08.000 Oh my gosh.

00:13:09.000 The dead bald eagle was found in a freezer in one of the homes, though it's unknown how the dead eagle came to roost there, as the suspect was not home during the search.

00:13:18.000 Saddest of all, we may never actually know what the most patriotic rotisserie actually tastes like.

00:13:26.000 I don't know.

00:13:27.000 You see, I would have gone with beer can bald eagle.

00:13:27.000 It was a sacred bird.

00:13:30.000 Beer can bald eagle?

00:13:31.000 Shove a beer can, put on the smoker, four hours over hickory chips.

00:13:36.000 In the cartoons, were they putting an apple in the mouth on the spit, or was it a tomato?

00:13:40.000 I thought it was an apple.

00:13:42.000 I don't know why it would be an apple with a pig, though.

00:13:43.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:13:44.000 Have you ever put an apple in a pig's mouth?

00:13:45.000 Apple goes good with pork. 0.59

00:13:47.000 Yeah, but have you actually put it in a mouth of a pig? 0.54

00:13:49.000 Like, I see people all the time, I have friends who do wild boar hunts, and they come back and never once placed an apple in it.

00:13:54.000 Yeah, if you're doing a whole hog roast, it is common to put an apple in the mouth.

00:13:57.000 Really?

00:13:57.000 I think it's just degrading to the hog, but here's the point.

00:14:01.000 It's already dead, maybe it doesn't care. 0.56

00:14:02.000 You wanna rub salt in the wound?

00:14:04.000 Even better. 0.99

00:14:04.000 Let's stick an apple in his mouth. 0.99

00:14:06.000 Make him look like a jackass. 1.00

00:14:08.000 Degrading to the hog is actually a couple hours after you eat it. 1.00

00:14:13.000 What?

00:14:13.000 Wait, hold on a second.

00:14:15.000 Was that a David Hogg joke?

00:14:16.000 I'm confused.

00:14:17.000 Oh, you're about to say something.

00:14:18.000 It was a poop joke.

00:14:20.000 I don't understand.

00:14:21.000 There's 58 grams of meth here.

00:14:22.000 There's stolen things.

00:14:23.000 There's a gun.

00:14:24.000 There's a trailer, a horse trailer that this guy stole.

00:14:26.000 And they're like, the lead is the bald eagle.

00:14:28.000 By the way, I don't know if you saw this, but within the last couple of hours or so, HuffPo's opinion column, their entire opinion staff fired.

00:14:36.000 Yeah.

00:14:37.000 No, what's most interesting to me is they didn't know the details because the suspect was not home during the search.

00:14:41.000 Wait!

00:14:44.000 This whole article, by the way, go read it.

00:14:46.000 He wasn't home during this.

00:14:48.000 Wait, what happened?

00:14:49.000 You found all this drug paraphernalia, weapons, and a dead bald eagle?

00:14:53.000 He wasn't home.

00:14:55.000 Wait!

00:14:56.000 He'll come back!

00:14:57.000 Just five minutes!

00:14:59.000 There's meth there!

00:15:00.000 He wants it!

00:15:01.000 He doesn't get too far away from his meth, don't worry.

00:15:03.000 And also, the meth capital of the world, is that Missouri or Missouri? 0.62

00:15:08.000 I have no idea.

00:15:09.000 Depends if the girl from that show Ozarks is pronouncing it, in which case she just electrocutes you on a dock. 0.98

00:15:13.000 Finally, in international news, last year before we get to the top myths of the government shutdown, a man injected himself Okay, if you have kids in the room, this is a true story. 0.53

00:15:22.000 So, a man injected himself with his own semen to treat back pain.

00:15:26.000 According to the Irish Examiner, the man had a history of chronic pain and subsequently admitted he had been injecting himself with his own stuff for a year and a half as an innovative man.

00:15:37.000 He described it as innovative.

00:15:39.000 That's what I love about this article.

00:15:41.000 Listen, I don't care what you think.

00:15:44.000 I'm breaking new ground here, okay?

00:15:46.000 Listen, no one's thought of this, I guarantee you, no one's thought of taking their own s*** and putting it in disc C4, C5.

00:15:55.000 It works horribly, but it's mighty creative.

00:15:59.000 The man in question claimed, actually, though, that he doesn't regret the decision.

00:16:02.000 Though, in retrospect, he would have better prepared for his, quote, back baby.

00:16:05.000 Yeah, it seems like he could have actually done.

00:16:08.000 You get out of there, Gillibrand!

00:16:10.000 You get out of there!

00:16:10.000 Back babies are sacred!

00:16:12.000 I do not want to see her around.

00:16:13.000 Precious.

00:16:14.000 Here's what I don't understand, because I'm starting to deal with some chronic pain.

00:16:17.000 And we talk about the different, like, you know, ouchies.

00:16:20.000 Right.

00:16:20.000 It's a goodbye.

00:16:21.000 Diet, exercise, stretching, yoga.

00:16:24.000 How do you skip all those things and go right to shooting yourself up with your own Where is that the idea?

00:16:29.000 No, no, no, listen.

00:16:30.000 I know you want to make a mockery of it, OK?

00:16:32.000 But have you tried it?

00:16:34.000 Have any of you actually tried it?

00:16:37.000 This man.

00:16:38.000 He did it.

00:16:38.000 There you go.

00:16:39.000 OK.

00:16:40.000 He who has not tried it casts the first semen syringe, 31 gauge syringe, OK?

00:16:47.000 I just wanted to pick a phrase that had as many S's as possible.

00:16:50.000 I don't know what they're doing there.

00:16:52.000 I honestly... He had an idea, right?

00:16:54.000 Somebody had an idea, right?

00:16:55.000 But here's the thing.

00:16:56.000 He went to the hospital because he was having some back pain issues still, and he was injecting it in his arm.

00:17:01.000 He wasn't even injecting it in his back!

00:17:04.000 It's almost like it does nothing!

00:17:07.000 I'm possibly worse!

00:17:09.000 He was having a rash and an infection from it, and he declined any treatments for it.

00:17:14.000 And now my left delt is pregnant as well.

00:17:16.000 To be fair, though, it's Ireland, so they're all usually drunk.

00:17:21.000 Aw, it's a terrible stereotype.

00:17:23.000 I can make that joke.

00:17:24.000 Is that racist?

00:17:24.000 It sounded like a good idea at the time.

00:17:28.000 I don't know.

00:17:29.000 I can see, looking back, where I might have made some errors.

00:17:31.000 18 times in a row he made errors.

00:17:33.000 That being said, thank God for socialized health care. 0.91

00:17:36.000 Only had to wait 12 hours to deliver my back baby. 0.88

00:17:38.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey.

00:17:39.000 All right.

00:17:41.000 You may want to lay off the proper talk.

00:17:43.000 Yes, we do want to talk now about government shutdown.

00:17:46.000 How has the government shutdown affected you, specifically?

00:17:49.000 Because I notice there's a big disconnect between how the shutdown has affected actual people versus how the media is portraying it.

00:17:55.000 Everyone I talk to about, we'll talk with Andy and Camille about this, They all say, mostly fine, unless you work for the federal

00:18:01.000 government. I get it. I do have sympathy.

00:18:04.000 I do have empathy for these people. Not all of them. Not all of them. Not the lady at the DMV.

00:18:07.000 She deserves it, apparently. Put some context here. We're a month into the longest government

00:18:12.000 shutdown in history. So what really has been going on? Let's Let's just go through the top five lies I think that are important that everyone has been fed, and I think they believe.

00:18:21.000 So we've been told, of course, number five, we're going in descending order here.

00:18:25.000 I don't know.

00:18:26.000 OK.

00:18:26.000 Yeah.

00:18:26.000 That just seems to be pretty common on the internet.

00:18:28.000 We can work down to number one.

00:18:29.000 It's like BuzzFeed.

00:18:30.000 32 reasons that kittens are great!

00:18:32.000 Oh, boy.

00:18:33.000 And we're supposed to believe you on the Russia leaks.

00:18:35.000 So we've been told that Trump's wall request is a non-starter.

00:18:38.000 That's what you've been told.

00:18:39.000 Because Democrats say that a wall is immoral, as you've seen from Joker Pelosi.

00:18:44.000 The fact is, a wall is an immorality.

00:18:48.000 It's not who we are as a nation.

00:18:50.000 And this is not a wall between Mexico and the United States that the president is creating here.

00:18:56.000 It's a wall between reality and his constituents.

00:19:00.000 His supporters.

00:19:01.000 He does not want them to know what he's doing.

00:19:04.000 Someone get that broad some Levodopa. 1.00

00:19:06.000 I think she might... I think she... Look at the hands!

00:19:08.000 It is a little shaky.

00:19:10.000 Either someone's going on as just from years of disruption.

00:19:13.000 Just from years of practicing evil and being denied communion.

00:19:17.000 It could be that.

00:19:17.000 But she's doing this whole business.

00:19:19.000 So, what's the truth?

00:19:20.000 Democrats, by the way, a lot of people don't know this.

00:19:22.000 They've repeatedly voted for a wall.

00:19:24.000 A wall nearly identical to the one that President Trump is proposing now.

00:19:27.000 They overwhelmingly voted to build a wall in... What year was it?

00:19:32.000 I think it was 2013.

00:19:33.000 I can't remember that far back.

00:19:35.000 I think 2006 and 2013.

00:19:36.000 700 miles of border fencing.

00:19:38.000 If we want to get into fencing versus, well no, we said fence!

00:19:44.000 And he said, well, tomato piss off, okay?

00:19:47.000 That's really what we're doing.

00:19:49.000 But do you ever notice that the non-starter seems to be whatever the Republicans want?

00:19:52.000 Because a couple years ago, When it was the Republican House, Republican Senate, it's like, well, you can't pass that bill because Barack Obama won't sign it.

00:19:59.000 Like, fine, let him not sign it.

00:20:01.000 Right, exactly.

00:20:01.000 Well, and it's kind of funny to me.

00:20:03.000 You have to have, like, a ginormous pair of brass balls in this day and age to lie like that.

00:20:09.000 To go out and say that walls are immoral when we have video evidence of you saying this less than five years ago! 0.92

00:20:16.000 Yeah, and guess what?

00:20:18.000 Back in 2013, when they voted on it, every single Democrat voted for it and it was led by none other than Chuck Schumer.

00:20:24.000 It was the guy that led the charge.

00:20:26.000 Actually, when we did the Change My Mind, if you go and watch it, almost everybody agrees that we need strong border security.

00:20:32.000 They just go, I don't really think a wall would work.

00:20:34.000 And you say, well, what do you think?

00:20:35.000 How about a fence?

00:20:36.000 What?

00:20:37.000 What is happening?

00:20:37.000 What about a drone?

00:20:38.000 What about like a chip program that we could inject somewhere in that serial number would be 666?

00:20:44.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:20:45.000 The whole point here is that people don't actually have solutions.

00:20:49.000 Like you said, the non-starter.

00:20:51.000 The non-starter is always what Republicans want.

00:20:53.000 And they try to act as though this is Donald Trump's shutdown.

00:20:55.000 Well, no.

00:20:55.000 He's actually been willing to compromise a whole lot more than the left.

00:20:58.000 It's like, hey, hold on a second.

00:21:00.000 I'm the wealthy here, if you're wealthy.

00:21:02.000 I'm relatively wealthy.

00:21:03.000 I pay half.

00:21:04.000 I pay half.

00:21:05.000 And the Republicans say, how about me?

00:21:07.000 OK, instead of half, maybe you pay like slightly less than half.

00:21:10.000 Well, that's this.

00:21:12.000 It's a non-starter.

00:21:14.000 It's immoral.

00:21:15.000 Yeah.

00:21:16.000 OK?

00:21:17.000 She's doing the two wild and crazy guys thing.

00:21:20.000 The wall is an immorality between countries.

00:21:22.000 It's an old way of thinking.

00:21:22.000 Or we've been told that Trump's request for the wall, the funding request is too costly.

00:21:27.000 Again, you see Pelosi parodying this claim.

00:21:30.000 The wall is an immorality between countries.

00:21:33.000 It's an old way of thinking.

00:21:36.000 It isn't cost effective.

00:21:40.000 That being said, offense is a great investment.

00:21:45.000 Can I interest you in making it a part of your diversified portfolio?

00:21:49.000 Also, lots of botulism! 1.00

00:21:52.000 The federal budget, let's try and keep this in context, it's going to be over 4 trillion dollars.

00:21:59.000 Wow, that's a lot.

00:22:00.000 So the cause of this shutdown, it's over a dispute between the 1.3 billion that Democrats have agreed to and the 5.7 billion that Donald Trump wants.

00:22:10.000 That's less than 1%.

00:22:12.000 Of the total federal budget.

00:22:14.000 That's insane.

00:22:15.000 And when you consider that the research shows the illegal immigrants cost the U.S. 1.00

00:22:18.000 taxpayer, that means you, not all you, a lot of you are in college. 0.99

00:22:21.000 I appreciate your viewership, but you're what we call losers. 0.92

00:22:26.000 116 billion dollars a year. 0.98

00:22:29.000 Wow.

00:22:29.000 That's quite a lot of money.

00:22:30.000 Four billion's not that expensive to fix it.

00:22:32.000 It's really not hard to do that math.

00:22:34.000 No.

00:22:35.000 Yeah, and also, if this is too costly, when it comes time to hear about Bernie and Cortez's Green New Deal, If this is too costly, they can take that green New Deal, shine it up real nice, turn it sideways, and shove it somewhere.

00:22:48.000 Imagine what that dinner is like.

00:22:51.000 Global warming?

00:22:52.000 These three can't afford it?

00:22:53.000 It's going to kill us in less than 12 years.

00:22:58.000 Good enough for me!

00:22:59.000 It's hard to argue with your logic!

00:23:02.000 I believe in sound!

00:23:04.000 I'll have the lobster roll!

00:23:07.000 Liberals are also really bad at math, apparently. 0.84

00:23:09.000 Yes.

00:23:10.000 Because if you're going to tell me that I have to spend $5 or $6 billion, I have $112 billion that I can save every year from here until eternity afterwards for $5 or $6 billion, that's a great deal.

00:23:20.000 Everybody should be jumping at that deal.

00:23:22.000 It's like putting insulation in your house.

00:23:23.000 Yes, exactly.

00:23:24.000 That's their sales pitch.

00:23:25.000 It's going to cost you more up front, and then they're going to save money after the first three years and every year thereafter.

00:23:29.000 Oh, great!

00:23:30.000 So we can keep up the Honduran caravans!

00:23:32.000 That's what I've been trying to tell you!

00:23:33.000 You just gotta fall in the attic!

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00:23:58.000 Big myth number three.

00:23:59.000 This is the big one that everyone has been using to try and lay this at the feet of President Trump and Republicans, that Donald Trump is completely unwilling to compromise.

00:24:09.000 You know, you call it the Trump shutdown, but I mean, it takes two to tango.

00:24:13.000 Okay, but this is not a tango.

00:24:15.000 Trump is the only one dancing.

00:24:17.000 And judging from how he moves his hands, he's doing some off-brand version of the Macarena.

00:24:23.000 And judging by this late-night program, whoever's teaching him dancing lessons is the sole writer on your staff.

00:24:30.000 It is amazing.

00:24:30.000 It's about ready to go up here.

00:24:32.000 This is the point when politics trumps comedy.

00:24:35.000 People say, well, you kind of do a political show.

00:24:36.000 Listen, if you watch this, we have been brutal on some people on the right. 1.00

00:24:41.000 And by the way, last week, this week, I called President Trump a dick! 1.00

00:24:45.000 And he is! 1.00

00:24:46.000 He can be a dick and be right! 0.99

00:24:48.000 But Seth Meyers is incapable of objectively looking at comedy. 0.97

00:24:53.000 So here's actually something that people need to know while we're talking about this.

00:24:55.000 Trump is surprisingly willing to compromise.

00:24:57.000 So he's been proposing extending DACA in exchange for funding for the wall.

00:25:00.000 It's, by the way, not the only time he's been open to negotiating.

00:25:02.000 He surprised a lot of people with his openness to compromise over gun control.

00:25:05.000 By the way, wasn't really happy about that.

00:25:07.000 A lot of people were not happy about that.

00:25:10.000 It's not a point in his favor because a lot of his base, they don't want DAC.

00:25:12.000 And I understand when you're talking about extending DAC, this is something that was an executive order when you look at it from Obama.

00:25:17.000 And I understand that because it was an executive order, now we're talking about dealing with this as an executive order thereafter.

00:25:23.000 But I'm not a huge fan of it.

00:25:25.000 That being said, the idea that he's not the one who's willing to compromise couldn't be further from the truth.

00:25:31.000 Democrats are completely failing to meet the guy in any negotiations, right?

00:25:35.000 The media is hell-bent on showing him as this guy who just wants to fund the wall.

00:25:41.000 He's a negotiator!

00:25:42.000 People make fun of him, like he thinks he can negotiate everything. 0.94

00:25:45.000 It is a challenge to negotiate with Nancy Pelosi, A, because she's a crazy person, B, she's hard of hearing, and C, No, you know what? 0.95

00:25:54.000 Let's not even go to see. 0.94

00:25:55.000 How is she speaker?

00:25:57.000 How did this happen?

00:25:58.000 I know.

00:25:58.000 I was like, did she hold a small child hostage?

00:26:00.000 Like, ha ha ha ha ha!

00:26:02.000 You knew you'd see me again!

00:26:04.000 It's the reboot!

00:26:05.000 How is she here?

00:26:07.000 No one likes her. 0.99

00:26:08.000 She's the bad villain from that movie you just will never see. 0.99

00:26:11.000 Is there anything else?

00:26:13.000 You look like you're going to be drunk.

00:26:14.000 The point is, even when he's flexible, as you see right now, they paint him as this completely unbending tyrant.

00:26:20.000 And that's something that I think is really important for people to note.

00:26:23.000 Look at the policies here.

00:26:25.000 Look who's more reasonable.

00:26:27.000 He wants a wall that they already wanted?

00:26:29.000 It's just like a kid.

00:26:30.000 You're doing reverse psychology, only Donald Trump doesn't understand that they will say the opposite of everything he does.

00:26:35.000 Like, he doesn't understand how reverse psychology works.

00:26:37.000 He'll say, you want a fence?

00:26:39.000 Uh-huh.

00:26:39.000 OK, I'll give you a wall.

00:26:40.000 No!

00:26:41.000 What the hell's happening here?

00:26:42.000 You just said you wanted it.

00:26:43.000 I'm terribly confused.

00:26:45.000 No, now I don't want it.

00:26:46.000 Because you want it! 0.98

00:26:47.000 They're just spoiled brats! 1.00

00:26:48.000 Well, and every time the left wants to talk about this right now in the media, they say, open up the government and then we will negotiate. 1.00

00:26:53.000 That is the dumbest thing that I've heard because it's a complete lie.

00:26:56.000 If they open up the government, they lose all leverage that they have right now to get them to actually move on something. 0.99

00:27:02.000 Democrats aren't going to bring this up at all. 0.85

00:27:04.000 Period.

00:27:04.000 Not at all.

00:27:05.000 Dumb. 1.00

00:27:05.000 It's also the same people that always bring up, well, Ronald Reagan passed immigration law. 1.00

00:27:09.000 Yeah.

00:27:10.000 Right.

00:27:10.000 And that's the specific law.

00:27:11.000 He fell for it too.

00:27:13.000 He never got the wall and he never got border security funding that conserves his lower point of view.

00:27:19.000 We tried doing this in the 80s.

00:27:21.000 You screwed us. 1.00

00:27:23.000 F you. 1.00

00:27:23.000 And look at what happened with Barack Obama. 1.00

00:27:25.000 Remember, Marco Rubio was kind of the ambassador of that bill.

00:27:27.000 He said, I will sign anything on my desk tomorrow.

00:27:29.000 And he didn't.

00:27:31.000 No.

00:27:32.000 That's what we call a lie.

00:27:33.000 By the way, here's something else.

00:27:34.000 Another lie that you've been told.

00:27:36.000 I think this is the second biggest lie.

00:27:38.000 This is to try and discredit what Trump says.

00:27:41.000 He's like, there's a crisis at the border.

00:27:42.000 And so what does the media say?

00:27:43.000 No, there is no crisis at the border.

00:27:45.000 Yes, you can see through these slats to the other side of the U.S.-Mexico border.

00:27:50.000 But as we're walking along here, we're not seeing any kind of imminent danger.

00:27:53.000 There are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence.

00:27:56.000 Because there's a wall!

00:27:58.000 There's a wall!

00:27:59.000 By the way, the wall is working!

00:28:00.000 We've covered how illegal immigrants commit disproportionately more crime, and people try to cite this study, they go, actually, immigrants commit less crime. 0.79

00:28:08.000 Well, that study includes legal immigrants, dummy. 1.00

00:28:10.000 That's the big bait-and-switch that nobody talks about.

00:28:12.000 It's really hard to know how much crime is committed by illegal immigrants because they're here illegally, but guess what? 1.00

00:28:17.000 Every single crime that's committed by an illegal immigrant is one committed by somebody who had no business being here in the first place. 1.00

00:28:22.000 Ergo, we have more crime because they're here, okay?

00:28:25.000 Here's the irony.

00:28:26.000 The same day Acosta posted that clip, right?

00:28:29.000 They found 21 burned corpses in a border town not far from where he did that selfie video.

00:28:37.000 Not to mention, the majority of the people who claim there's no crisis at the border live far away from the border, have no intention of even going into Texas, let alone at the border.

00:28:46.000 The only way a constant could have more lack of self-awareness is if, while he was filming it, there was a head on a turtle behind him.

00:28:53.000 And even then, he'd be like, look, the wildlife here is threatened.

00:28:56.000 Do you want to disrupt their migratory patterns?

00:28:58.000 I didn't think so.

00:28:59.000 Oh my gosh.

00:29:00.000 Well look, if you truly care about immigrants, right, and you said it just a minute ago,

00:29:03.000 they lump illegal and legal immigrants together.

00:29:05.000 If you truly care about people coming to this country and not being taken advantage of,

00:29:09.000 you do not want them coming here illegally. 0.97

00:29:11.000 They don't report crime.

00:29:12.000 They get taken advantage of by everyone.

00:29:14.000 Employers, a lot of times, unscrupulous, will pay them half of what they're supposed to

00:29:18.000 be paid.

00:29:19.000 Who are they going to tell?

00:29:20.000 They're here illegally. 0.99

00:29:21.000 They can't go to the authorities.

00:29:22.000 That's always what I find so funny, by the way, is when these socialists, the Cortezes of the world go, well, hold on a second.

00:29:26.000 These people are willing to do jobs that Americans won't do for far less money.

00:29:30.000 Oh, way to support the giant corporations. 0.97

00:29:32.000 You screw the working man, dummy. 0.93

00:29:34.000 And you wonder why Trump won the Midwest. 1.00

00:29:36.000 Because you're sitting there going, look! 1.00

00:29:38.000 Look, you stupid Pennsylvanians and Michiganders! 1.00

00:29:40.000 These people are picking lettuce! 1.00

00:29:42.000 You would never do this, you lazy pieces of shit! 1.00

00:29:45.000 Vote Hillary! 1.00

00:29:47.000 You couldn't be more out of touch.

00:29:49.000 OK, when people say, we set that, it changed their mind.

00:29:50.000 They said, well, who does it hurt?

00:29:52.000 OK, I'll give you a couple of reasons.

00:29:53.000 It hurts the American worker.

00:29:55.000 It hurts the American taxpayer.

00:29:56.000 And it hurts people because there's more crime.

00:29:58.000 Yeah.

00:29:59.000 And by the way, it hurts legal immigrants, because they're waiting in the queue, and it gets longer and longer and longer.

00:30:03.000 Yes.

00:30:03.000 So there you go.

00:30:04.000 It's a victimless client.

00:30:06.000 No, it's not.

00:30:07.000 Everybody gets hurt.

00:30:08.000 No.

00:30:08.000 Agree to disagree.

00:30:09.000 No.

00:30:10.000 And here's the final big myth, of course.

00:30:11.000 And it's not necessarily a myth as far as they've been parroting.

00:30:15.000 Like the others that could be verifiably false statistics.

00:30:17.000 This is, as the girl said, it changed my mind this week, as you saw.

00:30:20.000 They're trying to control the narrative.

00:30:22.000 Her words, not mine.

00:30:23.000 The narrative here is, of course, the shutdown is really about good morality versus racism.

00:30:30.000 The shutdown is kind of a symptom of something larger.

00:30:33.000 The wall is a campaign promise the president made to play on something very deeply held that his political base feels.

00:30:39.000 What's going on with my man's hair?

00:30:40.000 And if you want to look for an image that actually speaks to this, it's probably those protesters who were on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, the Native American man who was beating the drum, Nathan Phillips, and those kids in the Make America Great Again hats that were kind of smirking at him.

00:30:54.000 It's like he said, give me the Mr. T, but not To me, that is the real image.

00:30:58.000 That is the real emblem of this.

00:30:59.000 This is about xenophobia.

00:31:03.000 For many Americans, this is about race.

00:31:06.000 How do you go on TV looking like that?

00:31:07.000 Brodigan, look at me.

00:31:08.000 First thing, he just wants to go off because of the bourbon in there.

00:31:10.000 The first thing that we need to address here is they weren't looking down their nose at the Native American.

00:31:15.000 No!

00:31:16.000 They were staring into the toothless, mech-mouthed abyss.

00:31:19.000 Probably getting a contact high.

00:31:21.000 And it's just so funny, this is emblematic to me of America.

00:31:24.000 That's what they wanted to do.

00:31:25.000 The left wants to make you somebody who speaks for everyone else.

00:31:29.000 And if you're not a villain, they're just going to try and vilify you.

00:31:31.000 By the way, it was completely fabricated!

00:31:34.000 Nathan Phillips.

00:31:35.000 Because when I think of a Native American elder, I think of a man named Nathan Phillips.

00:31:42.000 That's like the name of a runner-up on American Idol.

00:31:44.000 Like Nathan Phillips or on Maury.

00:31:46.000 You are not the father.

00:31:48.000 The best runner-up to be.

00:31:50.000 Sleeping Bear told me a fib.

00:31:54.000 The chanting, the chanting build the wall never happened.

00:31:57.000 They want so desperately to set this narrative of moral versus evil that they're willing to lie about it.

00:32:03.000 We've already covered that.

00:32:04.000 Yeah, and one of the things we can, if we take care of this border situation, you can take care of some really bad things, right?

00:32:09.000 He's talking about people being worried about race and being worried about, those things are important, but human trafficking, drugs being imported, gangs, terrorists coming through a border.

00:32:17.000 Turtles on heads.

00:32:18.000 None of these, so here's the thing.

00:32:19.000 Canada?

00:32:20.000 None of these things are coming from Canada!

00:32:21.000 If they were, we'd be building a wall there.

00:32:23.000 They're all coming from our southern border, so why in the world are we not doing something to help?

00:32:27.000 And by the way, this is not something where you ask for a show of hands.

00:32:30.000 The average American cannot possibly have enough information to make a very informed opinion about this and say, yes, a wall would work, no, it wouldn't.

00:32:36.000 Ask people in Border Patrol.

00:32:38.000 They say a wall helps.

00:32:40.000 Right.

00:32:40.000 Because it helps us find where they're coming, and then it helps our response time because a wall slows them down.

00:32:44.000 Or ask the mother who had a child who was killed, or a child who was raped on the border.

00:32:49.000 Have you guys been to El Paso?

00:32:51.000 Have you been to El Paso?

00:32:52.000 Has anyone been out there?

00:32:53.000 Have you seen the bars on the windows?

00:32:54.000 I drove through very fast.

00:32:55.000 It's unbelievable.

00:32:57.000 Listen.

00:32:58.000 Anyway.

00:32:58.000 I don't even want to get into this.

00:32:59.000 Here's the thing.

00:33:00.000 It does beg the question.

00:33:01.000 We're going to close this.

00:33:02.000 We have Anthony Cumia coming up after the break.

00:33:03.000 It begs the question.

00:33:05.000 And I don't want to be Jesse Ventura where all we do is, I'm just asking questions, right?

00:33:09.000 Or John Oliver.

00:33:09.000 So let's actually try and get to the root cause of this.

00:33:11.000 When it's less than 1% of the federal budget and these same Democrats have voted for a wall many times without issue, why?

00:33:19.000 Why are they so suddenly hell-bent on there not being a wall?

00:33:22.000 Why are they willing to shut down the government over it, right?

00:33:24.000 Who are they actually holding hostage?

00:33:26.000 This is important.

00:33:28.000 You.

00:33:29.000 When people say, they're holding DREAMers hostage.

00:33:31.000 No, who's being held hostage?

00:33:32.000 You.

00:33:33.000 And why?

00:33:34.000 For a voting base.

00:33:35.000 Here's exactly why.

00:33:36.000 The statistics show this.

00:33:38.000 Illegal immigrants, people who come here illegally, favor Democrats time and time again. 1.00

00:33:42.000 They receive benefits at a greater rate than native-born populations, okay? 0.88

00:33:46.000 And They will continue to vote Democrat because they'll continue to receive those benefits.

00:33:51.000 In the past, Democrats always assumed that amnesty was on the table and that there was some kind of flexibility, also that they were winning.

00:33:56.000 Now that they're losing, they're desperate for more voters.

00:33:59.000 This is about bringing in a voting base.

00:34:02.000 It's about people who are here illegally making sure that they have a path to citizenship so that they can vote and not closing the border so that more of these people can come in and vote.

00:34:13.000 Overwhelmingly Democrat.

00:34:14.000 Overwhelmingly suckle at the government tea.

00:34:16.000 It's just like the kid in the school cafeteria promising that if you vote for him for class president, he's going to give you free ice cream sandwiches.

00:34:23.000 That's it.

00:34:23.000 People are like, why is this happening?

00:34:25.000 That's exactly it.

00:34:25.000 They want more people here to vote for them.

00:34:28.000 And they're holding you hostage to make your vote irrelevant for the rest of the United States history.

00:34:34.000 That's what this is about.

00:34:35.000 Bring in people who have no business being here in the first place. 1.00

00:34:38.000 I'm not talking about legal immigrants. 0.95

00:34:40.000 I think that we've clarified that ad nauseum.

00:34:42.000 Huge difference between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants.

00:34:46.000 Legalize all the people who broke the law to get here and screwed all the people who were in the queue to get here legally. 0.98

00:34:52.000 Legalize all these folks.

00:34:53.000 Make sure they can vote.

00:34:54.000 By the way, don't close up the holes so that we can ensure more people come in who will vote for us.

00:34:58.000 Promise them free sh** and make sure that the people have been paying taxes for their entire lives who overwhelmingly vote, by the way, the working class now for Republicans, that their vote doesn't matter anymore. 0.77

00:35:07.000 This is all about holding you hostage. 0.96

00:35:10.000 Anthony Cumia, after the break.

00:35:12.000 There you go.

00:35:13.000 Not just questions, but some answers.

00:35:14.000 Truth.

00:35:15.000 Yeah.

00:35:16.000 Now I know what you're thinking.

00:35:41.000 Did he fire 14 rounds or 15?

00:35:45.000 That's erroneous, as my new all-steel PPQ-5 match has a 17-round magazine, plus one in the chamber.

00:35:53.000 With the best ergonomics in the business, I'm capable of putting a shot right between your eyes at 40 yards away.

00:35:59.000 So you have to ask yourself one question.

00:36:03.000 Do you feel lucky?

00:36:07.000 Well, do ya?

00:36:11.000 This is Vision Quest, with wise elder Nathan Phillips.

00:36:22.000 Me.

00:36:23.000 It is commonly said among the modern man that war is hell, bringing even the strongest to his knees and the brink of exhaustion.

00:36:35.000 So I didn't go.

00:36:38.000 You know, I'm hearing this song for the first time.

00:36:41.000 This has been Vision Quest with wise elder Nathan Phillips.

00:36:48.000 Me, sponsored by Mug Club.

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00:37:00.000 You're an M&M, it's all right, there's no sense in wondering where your pockets are.

00:37:03.000 You know, I'm hearing this song for the first time.

00:37:05.000 Is he saying that you're an M&M?

00:37:07.000 Yes, he is.

00:37:08.000 That's very, that doesn't, uh...

00:37:10.000 Lyrics have come a long way, I guess.

00:37:12.000 Along with band names.

00:37:14.000 I heard a band called Deer Tick.

00:37:16.000 Dear Dave, at what point do you just say, call us whatever you want?

00:37:20.000 We really have run out of ideas.

00:37:21.000 Our next guest, I'm thrilled to have him on the show.

00:37:23.000 First guest back, Jordan Peterson.

00:37:25.000 We're really happy.

00:37:26.000 And we haven't had this man on here in a while.

00:37:27.000 Of course, you know his show on Compound Mania, The Anthony Cumia Show.

00:37:31.000 You can follow him on the Twitter at The Cumia Show.

00:37:34.000 Do I have it right?

00:37:35.000 The Cumia Show.

00:37:36.000 I don't know because he's constantly getting banned.

00:37:38.000 His book, Apparently While We Were Gone, was banned from... Where was it banned?

00:37:44.000 I get banned from everything.

00:37:45.000 I'm not on Twitter anymore, but my compound media is, and the Cumia show is, but I don't run those things.

00:37:52.000 I'm not responsible enough to post nice enough things on Twitter, so I'm constantly being banned from social media.

00:37:59.000 Hence the title of the book, Permanently Suspended, yes.

00:38:02.000 Okay, that's what I might have had wrong.

00:38:03.000 The book is not actually Permanently Suspended.

00:38:06.000 This is where the comedy comes into play, correct?

00:38:09.000 You're right.

00:38:10.000 It's permanently suspended.

00:38:12.000 It's pretty much the story of my early kind of life out in California with my maniacal father, having fun with guns and dune buggies and sex, and then coming out to New York and getting into the broadcasting business up in Boston and back in New York.

00:38:30.000 It's a fun read. 0.94

00:38:32.000 To be clear, you were having fun with your father with guns and dune buggies, but not sex with your father. 0.95

00:38:37.000 No, no. 0.94

00:38:38.000 Although my dad did hook me up with a girl, a 19-year-old girl when I was 13, and I said adios to my virginity back then.

00:38:49.000 It was different times in the 70s.

00:38:52.000 Yeah, sounds like the charmer.

00:38:55.000 I cannot imagine that at PTA.

00:38:58.000 I found them behind the F block and they were, oh yeah, I set that up, you like that, what I did there, huh? 0.99

00:39:05.000 So, this book came out while we were on hiatus.

00:39:08.000 Tell us a little bit, well, I know you just mentioned, is it sort of autobiographical, or is it like Alice Cooper's autobiography, where it's one chapter, autobiography, the next chapter, golf tips?

00:39:18.000 Which is really weird, yeah.

00:39:20.000 No, it's not like that.

00:39:21.000 It's a little autobiographical in that I do cover a little bit of my youth.

00:39:25.000 I don't go through the whole thing.

00:39:28.000 But I cover some things that kind of give a little more insight on why I'm the way I am now.

00:39:34.000 Just craving attention and trying to diffuse any uncomfortable situation with humor.

00:39:40.000 That's pretty much what I cover in there, but then most of it is about the Opie and Anthony show and my relationship with Opie, my on-air partner for 20 years, which ended, you know, disastrously in 2014.

00:39:53.000 I think it would be fair to say that.

00:39:57.000 Yeah, but you've done really well, Fierce, but I remember when that happened, I was going, man, it was kind of at the beginning.

00:40:01.000 Remember back then?

00:40:02.000 The outrage cycle wasn't the same as it was now.

00:40:05.000 You were kind of one of the first public hangings with that.

00:40:08.000 Yeah, I really, that's what it was.

00:40:11.000 I didn't expect it to happen.

00:40:13.000 It was, I tweeted something about, I was assaulted in Times Square by a woman of color, and I commented about it on Twitter, and I gave a little social commentary about the situation when I also talked about my assault. 1.00

00:40:27.000 That got me in trouble with the people at Sirius Satellite Radio, and they fired me for it.

00:40:32.000 So yeah, it was right at the beginning of this whole outrage thing, this false outrage thing.

00:40:39.000 So yeah, I was one of the early veterans of that.

00:40:43.000 I was able to build this up from that, starting in my basement with a studio I'd built years prior, because I always loved the medium.

00:40:52.000 I liked being able to have video and show clips and just kind of get on the air on the internet when some news story would happen.

00:41:01.000 And thank God I had that.

00:41:02.000 It was like a lifeboat when I got fired because when you get fired for things like that, no one wants to touch you.

00:41:06.000 So we started this whole thing and then it just kind of evolved with other personalities that do shows here that also kind of fit that mold of unhireable, undesirable, whatever it would be.

00:41:19.000 Well, first off, I think you're the only person to get mugged in Times Square in the last two decades.

00:41:23.000 I don't know how that happens right next to the Olive Garden and the M&M shop.

00:41:28.000 He's walking around the M&M shop.

00:41:32.000 I was mugged by Elmo.

00:41:33.000 Yes, you were mugged by Elmo and the TKTS stand.

00:41:37.000 And I remember when I heard about it, I remember talking with a friend, and they told me this story.

00:41:41.000 I said, Like, like, Opie and Anthony? Anthony? He's a shock jock.

00:41:46.000 They wouldn't fire him for...

00:41:47.000 What are you talking... I didn't believe it until I read up on the story. So that was

00:41:50.000 early on. It was very surprising. It would be like hearing that Howard Stern had been fired

00:41:55.000 because, you know, he talked ill... he spoke ill of a stripper.

00:41:58.000 You know?

00:41:59.000 Yeah, it's... I didn't say... I didn't even tweet anything close to 99% of what I was saying on

00:42:08.000 their airwaves on satellite radios airwaves for dot decade Like, go back to some of my shows.

00:42:16.000 Oh my God, I'm a horrible person.

00:42:19.000 And the tweets, there was really nothing.

00:42:21.000 They were very innocent and, you know, like I said, a little too much social commentary.

00:42:26.000 And people didn't want to hear it, and again, that false outrage snowballs once the media gets ahold of it.

00:42:33.000 And, you know, they have the power to put you under.

00:42:36.000 Again, the book is permanently suspended.

00:42:37.000 It's available on Amazon and wherever a Barnes & Noble still exists.

00:42:40.000 The one near where I live is now a Barnes & Noble cafe, so they don't even sell books.

00:42:45.000 It's like, at this point, just call it...

00:42:45.000 Yeah.

00:42:47.000 Cafe!

00:42:48.000 Just ditch the Barnes and the Nobles at this point.

00:42:51.000 But yeah, I think it really is interesting to kind of see the evolution, because I remember satellite radio.

00:42:57.000 They were saying, well, now it's not going to have the commercials.

00:42:59.000 Completely unedited, uncensored, you can say whatever you want.

00:43:03.000 And then sure enough, that's not what happened.

00:43:05.000 That changed.

00:43:05.000 And then people sort of said, well, online, people can do and say whatever they want with podcasts.

00:43:10.000 And now that's not really the case, as you see with deplatforming, with iTunes, and with YouTube.

00:43:14.000 So it seems like when people think there's going to be this completely free and open medium, we see this natural evolution.

00:43:21.000 We were just talking about this before the break.

00:43:22.000 Yeah.

00:43:23.000 I think that's why you had the foresight to do a subscription model like we did, as opposed to being on Patreon, where, again, it's supposed to be free and open, and we see that it's not.

00:43:32.000 I've called it having a piano over your head strung by a little wire and that is the powers that be that could cut it at any moment.

00:43:40.000 There's always someone you have to go to to deliver your show to the people.

00:43:46.000 There's always some channel, and I love when you hear, you know, well, make your own platform!

00:43:51.000 Do that!

00:43:52.000 Go out on the polls and string your own fiber optic cable and make a cable company!

00:43:56.000 Like, there's certain things you just can't independently do, so you have to take as many people out of the mix as possible.

00:44:05.000 So going to subscriber base worked well for me because I'd already had a very popular show, so I had a base of people that were willing to subscribe.

00:44:12.000 It's not like Any Tom, Dick, or Harry can get out there and make a subscriber-based show.

00:44:17.000 But, you know, I guess we're doing alright.

00:44:17.000 Hey!

00:44:21.000 One of the few, the proud.

00:44:22.000 I think this really is the only show that came up this way, and kind of to your point, we said we're going to use the paywall model.

00:44:31.000 I think now they're calling it over-the-top.

00:44:32.000 That didn't exist when we started.

00:44:34.000 They're like, over-the-top content.

00:44:35.000 I'm like, are you talking about that s*** arm wrestling movie? 0.99

00:44:39.000 But that's what they call it now, OTT.

00:44:41.000 But this mug club for us, we said, we're not going to remove free content.

00:44:44.000 We're going to create more premium content and still use YouTube and social media, granted, for as long as we can before we're banned, to build it up.

00:44:52.000 But you, yeah, you already had a serious following.

00:44:54.000 I mean, that show was huge.

00:44:55.000 Yeah, that's why the model works so well for us.

00:44:59.000 And like I said, take as many people out of the mix.

00:45:03.000 You can be deplatformed.

00:45:05.000 We've seen it happen with Alex Jones and Laurel Loomer.

00:45:08.000 You disappear.

00:45:10.000 Gavin McInnes, who is just an awesome guy, a great friend of mine, and I love him as a person and as a personality, who was one of the victims of his own talent.

00:45:21.000 He's one of the greatest satirical Comedians I've ever seen and too many people that get outraged didn't get his joke didn't get the joke He was literally Hitler and he's like, yeah, he's comes to parties at my house He's got his family his beautiful wife and kids and he's the nicest guy and he's painted as literally Hitler because of the the bull

00:45:44.000 Outrage that goes on now.

00:45:46.000 Right, yeah, I still, when people said Gavin got in trouble for his antics, I said, which one?

00:45:51.000 You know, I mean, it's take your pick.

00:45:53.000 Yeah!

00:45:53.000 We would get on and do these French-Canadian characters, and he would do a Scottish character, and we would, I think, I don't know if he was here in studio, I think it was in New York.

00:46:01.000 It made other people uncomfortable, because we were being brutal with each other, and he doesn't break character, and the Jean-Guy Tremblay doesn't break character, and people go, oh, is this something we need to separate?

00:46:10.000 And afterwards, like, no, no, don't, keep rolling!

00:46:11.000 Yeah.

00:46:12.000 That is the show!

00:46:13.000 And he's one of the few people who gets it, and not in a self-important way, like a lot of these Andy Kaufman hipsters.

00:46:20.000 It still has to be funny with Gavin.

00:46:23.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:46:25.000 Comedy is suffering like I've never seen it suffer before, because comedians are petrified to do their act, and these social justice warriors, or whatever you want to call them, are out there just looking.

00:46:39.000 They're searching like a German wolf pack of submarines looking for a target to then tape and take out of context and take without the context of comedy and just bury them.

00:46:53.000 We see it with Louis C.K.

00:46:54.000 Of course, look, Louis's got some sexual proclivities.

00:46:59.000 That seemed a little odd to some people.

00:47:01.000 I don't care.

00:47:02.000 Right.

00:47:03.000 But you cannot deny the guy is funny.

00:47:06.000 These same people that want him crucified, we're calling him a genius a couple of years ago, and he just wants to get back into the game.

00:47:12.000 There are people that don't want you to have a career. 0.91

00:47:15.000 They don't want you to do what you enjoy and are very good at doing because they are outraged at some inane A moronic thing that didn't happen to them. 0.54

00:47:26.000 It's true. 0.53

00:47:27.000 It doesn't matter who you are.

00:47:28.000 No one is safe.

00:47:29.000 Because if there isn't somebody who acts up, maybe in a couple of months, they go, what about that kid in the red hat who smiled at the toothless Indian meth head? 1.00

00:47:38.000 Can we be mad at him?

00:47:39.000 It's literally a kid.

00:47:41.000 When I watched it, people were praising me for going, you didn't jump the gun, thanks.

00:47:45.000 I said, no, you know why?

00:47:46.000 Because I watched the original clip, and I said, who cares?

00:47:50.000 I wasn't on the outrage machine from the right.

00:47:53.000 Some conservatives were like, oh, I can't believe it.

00:47:55.000 No, he wasn't being assaulted.

00:47:57.000 He was sitting there smiling while this guy offbeat, he just came back from his opium quest.

00:48:03.000 I don't care if I get in trouble.

00:48:04.000 Oh, he's a veteran apparently.

00:48:05.000 I don't know this for sure.

00:48:06.000 Apparently he was a refrigerator repairman and he went against the wall twice.

00:48:10.000 Allegedly.

00:48:12.000 You know, you're right.

00:48:13.000 They are looking just for our... Hey, by the way, while we're talking about this, how affected have you been by the government shutdown?

00:48:18.000 We're asking everyone today.

00:48:20.000 Oh my goodness, we're on backup power here in New York City.

00:48:25.000 It's like Armageddon.

00:48:26.000 I don't even have to play video games out there because it's just a post-apocalyptic nightmare out there.

00:48:33.000 No, I haven't been affected whatsoever by it.

00:48:36.000 And I know the employees that aren't getting a paycheck, they are affected.

00:48:42.000 If you take the emotion out of it and go pure numbers, the amount of jobs Trump has put back into this country far outweigh the amount of people that are put out of work by the shutdown. 0.86

00:48:55.000 That's a mad thing, not an emotional thing, so calm the f*** down.

00:49:00.000 Why do you say that to me? 0.98

00:49:02.000 He doesn't care!

00:49:02.000 He doesn't care about the workers!

00:49:05.000 You know what?

00:49:05.000 I know you do.

00:49:07.000 I'm fine with it.

00:49:08.000 It's one of those things, I'm like, listen, not all.

00:49:09.000 I think it's 800-something thousand.

00:49:11.000 Let's be honest, maybe 400,000.

00:49:14.000 Like, we could probably make them part-time anyway.

00:49:16.000 This is just a good time for- Not all of them!

00:49:18.000 Anthony didn't say it, by the way.

00:49:19.000 He didn't say it in Times Square.

00:49:21.000 I'm saying it!

00:49:24.000 For me, I really noticed, I felt the sting, and I recognized my privilege when my Amazon Prime order was going to be half a day late, and I was, what is happening here?

00:49:36.000 The post office can't pick up the slack?

00:49:39.000 You look at your phone and go, but you said!

00:49:42.000 You said no!

00:49:44.000 That being said, let's be honest.

00:49:46.000 It is infuriating when you're expecting a package and someone just screws it up with Amazon and you call them like, well, we can send another one out tomorrow.

00:49:52.000 I just, I needed it for today.

00:49:54.000 It doesn't help.

00:49:55.000 It really is.

00:49:56.000 I remember when I was growing up, that was way, way back when, kids, when I was growing up.

00:50:03.000 If you got a package, it was an event at your house, if a package showed up.

00:50:08.000 Now on a daily basis, I'm trying to unlock my door just kicking smiley boxes all over my house.

00:50:14.000 Like, what do I need so much stuff for now to be delivered when, you know, it was something I sent for from a cereal box when I was a kid.

00:50:23.000 I'd wait for six to eight weeks for a delivery of a Tony Tiger thing that swam in the bathtub or something.

00:50:29.000 It was a big event!

00:50:30.000 And now on a daily basis.

00:50:33.000 You're greeted at your door by boxes smiling at you.

00:50:38.000 I blame the recommendations.

00:50:39.000 And especially because we purchase, you know, props and wardrobe for the show.

00:50:42.000 We do a lot of sketches.

00:50:43.000 I get recommendations that don't even make sense.

00:50:45.000 And I say, yeah, I need that.

00:50:49.000 That's how my mother ends up with, I swear to you, a purple ball gag in her cart. 1.00

00:50:54.000 And she's like, what?

00:50:54.000 This was shipped at my house!

00:50:56.000 Why'd that happen, Steven?

00:50:57.000 She's French-Canadian.

00:50:59.000 There are boxes that just sit on my table or desk and, like, they're unopened.

00:51:04.000 Right.

00:51:04.000 Like, did I really need it if I don't even know what the hell is in it?

00:51:08.000 Everyone has turned into one of those maniacal OCD shopper women. 1.00

00:51:13.000 Right, it's true.

00:51:14.000 Yeah, and you used to just avoid them in the mall when they were walking with the hand weights.

00:51:17.000 Now we are all the mall walkers.

00:51:19.000 We're all now mall walkers in our own home.

00:51:21.000 Let me ask you this.

00:51:22.000 We don't have We have a ton of time.

00:51:24.000 So you do your show, you have Compound Media, you have this book that's out now.

00:51:27.000 How do you balance kind of the work life, personal life, especially as more of a caustic figure, the stress and the job?

00:51:33.000 And you talked about kind of when you were a kid, if you could go back in time and talk to your teenage self, what would you tell him?

00:51:40.000 What would be the single most important piece of advice outside of, listen, there's a government shutdown looming?

00:51:45.000 Oh my god.

00:51:46.000 First thing, I would just make sure I get out, buy Amazon.

00:51:50.000 That would be my first thing.

00:51:52.000 A-M-Z-N. 1.00

00:51:53.000 You'll understand it in the future.

00:51:55.000 I think...

00:51:59.000 I don't know if I would have any advice.

00:52:01.000 I kind of like the direction my life took.

00:52:04.000 Obviously, I've made some major mistakes before and after getting into broadcasting, but I do kind of like the direction it took.

00:52:11.000 I've always used humor and satire to diffuse situations, so that's worked well for me over the years.

00:52:20.000 The separation of life and this kind of life, people really get this misconception that you're You're not putting on an act for the most part.

00:52:29.000 No.

00:52:29.000 But you're not this person 24 hours a day.

00:52:32.000 You'd burn out in a second and people would just... 0.99

00:52:34.000 I beat the crap out of you in stores if you're this obnoxious constantly. 0.99

00:52:39.000 I have been beaten up in a store. 0.99

00:52:41.000 Thanks for bringing up a sore spot.

00:52:42.000 Okay!

00:52:43.000 A prime example.

00:52:45.000 But getting the show out of my basement was a good thing, you know.

00:52:49.000 When I'd be sitting on my couch at 11 p.m.

00:52:52.000 and Gavin would come walking up the stairs just completing his show and we'd talk about stuff at 11 at night.

00:52:58.000 I kind of needed a private life.

00:53:00.000 When the Legion of Skanks They do their show.

00:53:03.000 They did it from my basement.

00:53:04.000 And they literally brought their legion of skanks to my house, like fans. 1.00

00:53:08.000 And then they'd be in my pool.

00:53:10.000 And I'm like, yeah, maybe I ought to get a studio in New York City.

00:53:13.000 So we did that.

00:53:15.000 And separating it is kind of easy.

00:53:17.000 I'm constantly on the search for material.

00:53:19.000 I'm always going through social media and news sites and whatnot for the next day's show.

00:53:24.000 But for the most part, I calm down.

00:53:26.000 I play a lot of video games at home.

00:53:27.000 I love doing that and getting out with friends.

00:53:30.000 We went out last night with the staff here and stuff from Compound and just having a good time.

00:53:36.000 Blowing off steam is really important.

00:53:38.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:53:39.000 And I've been kind of learning that here more recently as I've had to learn to take time for myself.

00:53:44.000 But I will say this.

00:53:45.000 The first time you were on this show, we had had Nick DiPaolo on not that long before.

00:53:50.000 And I remember talking about stand-up and the state of stand-up.

00:53:53.000 And I remember Nick and even Jim Norton saying, well, you know what?

00:53:55.000 I understand what you're talking about with the colleges.

00:53:56.000 I don't think it's going to hit the clubs.

00:53:58.000 And all of them now are coming back.

00:53:59.000 You were the only one who said, this is coming everywhere.

00:54:02.000 All of them have since revisited the show, you know, two, three years later and said, You guys were right.

00:54:07.000 This is exactly what's happening.

00:54:08.000 There's no safe haven anymore for comedians.

00:54:11.000 Final question.

00:54:12.000 I know you're a gun guy, right?

00:54:13.000 And I know you have a Walther PPK.

00:54:15.000 Yes.

00:54:16.000 I love the Walther.

00:54:17.000 Beautiful.

00:54:18.000 Is it a Smith & Wesson licensed Walther PPK?

00:54:21.000 Do you know?

00:54:21.000 Or is it inner arms?

00:54:24.000 Uh, no, it's not the Smith & Wesson.

00:54:27.000 Okay, because, you know, they licensed it for a while, and I wanted to say this.

00:54:31.000 If you're in New York, I don't know what the laws are, Walther just started actually manufacturing them again, in-house.

00:54:36.000 Awesome.

00:54:37.000 And they were gone for a while.

00:54:37.000 I have a Smith & Wesson licensed one, I know I'll get in trouble.

00:54:40.000 It jammed all the time, could never use any hollow points, so it might, I know you're a big fan of the firearm, maybe we can get you one out there in New York, and the fit and finish on it is so much nicer that it's coming out of Walther's actual plant these days.

00:54:52.000 Let me tell you about New York gun laws.

00:54:56.000 I think the only way you could get a pistol in New York now is if you're an abortion doctor and want to kill a nun. 0.55

00:55:04.000 That's pretty much the only way they'll allow you to have a gun in New York.

00:55:07.000 Yeah, well, I'm sure there were some, I'm sure there's some leftover people from the SS at Walther, you know, we're still in the back room.

00:55:15.000 We're like, that sounds like a plan!

00:55:17.000 All right, the book is permanently suspended.

00:55:20.000 I want to make sure I got this right.

00:55:21.000 Not at, to be confused with actually being permanently suspended.

00:55:24.000 Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and of course, Compound Media.

00:55:27.000 The show, I think, is it 4 to 6 Eastern?

00:55:29.000 4 to 6 p.m.

00:55:30.000 Eastern Time on compoundmedia.com.

00:55:32.000 Yeah, and we got shows All day long, also.

00:55:35.000 Really good, funny personalities.

00:55:38.000 It's a great, open, free platform where people can actually express themselves.

00:55:43.000 There are great shows, but of course you are the king over there.

00:55:46.000 Hopefully soon we'll get you in studio.

00:55:47.000 If we can't get the Fire Empty You in New York, we'll go to the shooting range and we'll do a video on it.

00:55:51.000 I think you're going to love these new PPKs.

00:55:53.000 I would love it.

00:55:54.000 I would love it.

00:55:55.000 Thank you, Mr. Kamiya.

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00:58:32.000 That was the poor shoulder mobility mobility drowning dance for people.

00:58:36.000 I can't stop not holding my breath.

00:58:39.000 I know, people just hold their breath.

00:58:41.000 That's also because... 0.90

00:58:43.000 You have a lower IQ. 0.80

00:58:44.000 That's true.

00:58:44.000 Unlike myself, I have the best IQ.

00:58:47.000 Frankly, people tell me what a great IQ I have.

00:58:50.000 One thing, thank you so much to Anthony Cumia.

00:58:53.000 Very glad that he's been on the show.

00:58:55.000 We are going to have, I think on Monday, actually, Abby Johnson, long-form interview, former director of Planned Parenthood.

00:59:00.000 We have Nigel Farage coming up, Daniel Cormier, some big undercover videos.

00:59:04.000 Incredibly grateful.

00:59:06.000 Gonna be a good couple of months.

00:59:09.000 So, I want to talk about a couple things here.

00:59:12.000 You know, I think it's important to... We live in a culture that wants to use this term haters a lot.

00:59:16.000 Oh, he's just a hater!

00:59:19.000 Right?

00:59:19.000 Well, what is a hater?

00:59:20.000 The words often used, like, by rap artists or Instagram butt celebrities to simply describe people who disagree with them.

00:59:26.000 But what makes someone, I guess this term, a hater?

00:59:30.000 Is any critic of you a hater?

00:59:34.000 If you just toss them out as a hater, does that put you in an echo chamber devoid of any truth?

00:59:38.000 And the truth lies somewhere in the middle, and I think it's very important.

00:59:44.000 It's an important tool for people to be able to decipher between valid criticism and hate, particularly in the era of social media.

00:59:52.000 Probably one of the most important tools in the longevity and mental stability toolbox, I would say, in the era of social media.

00:59:58.000 The difference, I would say, between being a hater, and I think this matters to everyone out there, even if you're not somebody who's on social media or doesn't have any level of celebrity, it's important to be able to surround yourself with people who you trust and not dismiss everyone as a hater.

01:00:12.000 Don't you just hate that term?

01:00:13.000 Is it they just hate?

01:00:15.000 Well, no, that's not exactly what's going on.

01:00:16.000 The difference between a hater and valid criticism is like most things we discuss on this show.

01:00:22.000 The difference is truth.

01:00:25.000 It's simple, but it's easier simply said in a soundbite than explained.

01:00:29.000 I understand, listen, that rumor mills circulate.

01:00:31.000 For example, let me clarify something.

01:00:33.000 I don't work for Glenn Beck.

01:00:35.000 I have never worked for Glenn Beck.

01:00:36.000 This show is not paid for at all by Glenn Beck.

01:00:40.000 Mug Club is a completely independent entity, okay, which in the spirit of adding more value to you, we allow it to be packaged with more content so that you aren't forcing us to be beholden to Patreon or YouTube.

01:00:51.000 Okay, that's the truth.

01:00:53.000 Hope we've clarified.

01:00:54.000 For people who choose to be upset about something that isn't real, enjoy Colbert!

01:00:58.000 Those folks would be haters.

01:01:01.000 Now, if someone would say, and we've received mail to this degree, says, you know, I really don't like that you do the Change My Mind format instead of a normal show so often these days.

01:01:12.000 I think that's a departure from what you used to do, and I'm not a huge... That's a valid criticism, because it's truthful.

01:01:18.000 We do often perform long form change my minds in place of a normal show, which we never used to do.

01:01:24.000 Why?

01:01:24.000 Because we can't do both.

01:01:26.000 And it's a segment that is most requested from you, the fans.

01:01:30.000 But not everyone feels that way.

01:01:32.000 So even there, with completely valid criticism, not a hater at all, it doesn't mean that I have to agree with it.

01:01:38.000 But the person delivering it certainly doesn't need to be dismissed as, yo, just a hater, and then here's my butt twerking.

01:01:43.000 Let me explain to you something else.

01:01:44.000 I really never wanted to have to address this, but some people have asked.

01:01:49.000 Owen Benjamin.

01:01:51.000 Owen Benjamin, you know him, you love him, he's been on the show, he's a dear friend of mine.

01:01:54.000 A lot of people have been asking me what's going on, I don't know.

01:02:00.000 And let me tell you this, Owen doesn't respond to phone calls from me, from Johnny Boy, a good friend of mine, a good friend of his, Darren, my father, who he is close with and respects, nothing.

01:02:13.000 We have real concern for him.

01:02:15.000 We love Owen.

01:02:16.000 Some of the greatest times I've had would be me and Owen sitting watching Steven Seagal films riffing.

01:02:23.000 But no calls, no answers to texts that Hay were calling, and a voicemail that is permanently full.

01:02:30.000 But then he gets bold and shoots you guys straight on a live stream.

01:02:34.000 And you have the call logs to prove it.

01:02:35.000 And by the way, I want to make sure this is really clear.

01:02:38.000 Olin was never let go from this show.

01:02:40.000 Olin could still write for this show, and I love Olin.

01:02:44.000 Olin's a brilliant writer.

01:02:45.000 It has nothing to do with the moon landing being fake, that he believes that, or any other conspiracy that he may or may not believe out there.

01:02:52.000 Some people believe that he believes in conspiracies that he doesn't even believe in, and I don't know exactly.

01:02:56.000 It's that Olin, someone whom I love dearly, In this capacity has been unaccountable and when anyone would express concern he would lash out and torch the bridges.

01:03:07.000 Including, by the way, with fans.

01:03:10.000 With our fans, arguing with them, upset.

01:03:12.000 I still haven't spoken with him, because he has yet to answer any phones or texts trying to reach him.

01:03:16.000 Owen, if you're watching, I love you, everyone here loves you, but you've actually got to talk with someone to have any understanding as to what's going on here.

01:03:26.000 And guess what?

01:03:26.000 Someone who lashes out like that and leaves a lot of destruction and chaos in their wake, including with the people who love them most, at a certain point, I'll tell you what, I have to protect my people, meaning the rest of the team who make this all possible.

01:03:45.000 Anyone who has an opinion on this topic right now really is simply a hater without any of the facts at their disposal because no one publicly knows them.

01:03:53.000 I don't even know them yet and I really hope that it's something that can be resolved and not on a YouTube live stream.

01:04:00.000 If someone right now, for example, says, hey man, you know, I don't think you should have spoken about that at all.

01:04:05.000 It seems like airing dirty laundry.

01:04:07.000 That's a valid criticism.

01:04:08.000 And I may even agree with it, because I tend to lean that way.

01:04:12.000 But in this instance, because of the continual requests and calls, and trying to reach someone who we love and care about, and just breaking our hearts, and because of false information out there, I made a judgment call.

01:04:24.000 Doesn't mean that if you think I'm wrong, that you're incorrect.

01:04:27.000 I don't know.

01:04:28.000 Here's the thing, in this company, Loud Earth Cracker Mug Club, this independent company, like in any company, relationships are hard.

01:04:36.000 And it's a late night show, and someone like Johnny Carson never had to deal with the same pressures of you guys seeing every person who worked behind the scenes, and seeing every relationship, and how long it lasts.

01:04:48.000 We've had, for example, people quit because they were hired at more executive positions elsewhere, where they still work, and I've written their letter of recommendation.

01:04:55.000 We've had people Whoever to let go who I've loved, loved, adored, but just weren't able to do the job.

01:05:02.000 And my father can tell you this, before I had to do it, I looked literally seasick.

01:05:07.000 It was so hard for me to do.

01:05:08.000 It was burdening other workers, though, too much, and a decision just kind of had to be made.

01:05:13.000 And by the way, this person understood it, and we still talk today!

01:05:17.000 We've had people leave on their own, on great terms.

01:05:20.000 We've had people who we've kind of had to walk out the door on great terms.

01:05:23.000 On the flip side, we've also had people leave this company without even honoring two weeks notice and stealing company equipment out the back door.

01:05:30.000 Quarter Black? 0.87

01:05:32.000 It was me.

01:05:33.000 It was you.

01:05:34.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:05:36.000 By the way, company equipment means your Mug Club membership, your dollars that support this show.

01:05:40.000 We've had some people behind the scenes.

01:05:43.000 Hand to God.

01:05:44.000 Try to sell out information to the young Turks. 0.99

01:05:48.000 The only reason nothing happened is because there was nothing there.

01:05:53.000 And we never told you about it.

01:05:54.000 And beyond this segment, we never will.

01:05:56.000 We're not going to talk about it.

01:05:57.000 Sometimes when these decisions were made, the rumor mill kicked into high gear.

01:06:00.000 Misinformation started swirling, and a lot of people who are still left here They've been standing here and they've been taking some

01:06:08.000 hits.

01:06:08.000 That includes people in this room and that includes people in the control room who you

01:06:11.000 don't get to see.

01:06:12.000 So what makes someone a hater is when they start delivering blows as punishment for things

01:06:19.000 that you've never actually done.

01:06:21.000 That's something you have to let roll off your back.

01:06:24.000 But you cannot make yourself impervious to criticism.

01:06:26.000 And I've seen people like this in my life.

01:06:29.000 If my wife or someone I trust tells me, hey listen Steven, you've been on a short fuse

01:06:33.000 lately and you know what, I think you were in the wrong to get so upset back there.

01:06:36.000 Guess what?

01:06:37.000 If I don't listen to that person, I'm failing myself and everyone around who cares about

01:06:43.000 me.

01:06:44.000 Aww, he's just a hater!

01:06:45.000 No, no, maybe my wife's telling the truth. 1.00

01:06:46.000 Maybe I was a dick. 0.99

01:06:47.000 I have to be open to that possibility. 0.99

01:06:51.000 That I could be wrong. 0.99

01:06:52.000 If someone you love pulls you aside and tells you that they're worried about you, that you need to get your act together, you better sit your ass down and listen. 1.00

01:07:00.000 Knowing the difference between haters and valid criticism is the difference between self-improvement and being a lifelong fool. 0.95

01:07:08.000 And you can't even begin to discern the difference between the two if you don't have principles, foundational values, and more importantly, people in your life who keep you accountable.

01:07:18.000 See, we live in a society that wants to just tell us to ignore, ignore the haters!

01:07:23.000 And then more butts on Instagram. 0.94

01:07:24.000 Just ignore, they're just haters! 0.93

01:07:25.000 Why?

01:07:26.000 Because we live in a world that wants to tell you that you're perfect just the way you are.

01:07:31.000 You're not!

01:07:31.000 You're a very flawed human being, who is far from perfect, and you will never be perfect!

01:07:36.000 You probably suck! 1.00

01:07:37.000 I know I do! 0.99

01:07:38.000 But if you want to improve, if you want to even have a hope of becoming a better person tomorrow than you were yesterday, it starts with accountability and the ability to listen to criticism, to process it, to look long and hard at yourself in the mirror, and to use it, no matter how painful that may be.

01:07:55.000 So do me a favor, right now.

01:07:57.000 As you're watching this or listening to this, think of someone, someone you trust.

01:08:01.000 Go grab them or call them, sit them down, and demand of them to tell you what you can best improve of yourself.

01:08:11.000 Do it right now.

01:08:12.000 How can you more effectively serve others?

01:08:14.000 Write it down.

01:08:16.000 Is it valid?

01:08:17.000 Is it an area where you could improve?

01:08:19.000 Could you use some help doing it?

01:08:21.000 That's okay too.

01:08:22.000 You can get help.

01:08:23.000 We've talked about men suffering in silence.

01:08:25.000 Men, it's okay for you to ask for help.

01:08:29.000 But do it.

01:08:30.000 Do it immediately.

01:08:30.000 And then the next time someone slings mud your way that you know to be completely untrue, guess what?

01:08:35.000 It won't bother you.

01:08:36.000 You know why?

01:08:37.000 Because you've already broken down your ego and you know that you can receive and process and utilize valid criticism.

01:08:44.000 But you can't know whether it's valid or not until you've incorporated it and processed it continually, day after day, only a lifetime, only after a lifetime.

01:08:55.000 And it requires a lifetime, by the way, of doing this.

01:08:57.000 And I know people who've done the opposite.

01:08:59.000 I know people who've been impervious to criticism their whole life, and I can tell you how it ends.

01:09:03.000 Only after a lifetime of the pride-swallowing siege of doing this day after day, can you actually completely reject the irrelevant haters and sleep at night knowing that you're not a fool?

01:09:16.000 The difference between valid criticism and a hater is said simply, it's not incorporated simply.

01:09:23.000 The difference is truth.

01:09:24.000 All right, we'll see you next week.

Louder with Crowder - January 25, 2019

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