Louder with Crowder - #439 LEGAL UPDATE: TIME TO SUE!! | Bill Richmond and James O'Keefe Guest | Louder With Crowder

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00:00:03.000 I wanted to take this opportunity to bring to your attention the importance of Mug Club.

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00:00:10.000 But in light of the four copyright claims on our Oscars stream and archive that we received within 24 hours of each other this week, as well as being the subject of a national news story regarding Facebook's live video suppression algorithms, I want you to know that MugClub has never been more necessary in our ability to fight back than today.

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00:02:40.000 Blacko! 1.00

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00:02:50.000 First it's the mugs, then it's the bottle.

00:02:52.000 Now, nothing's safe.

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00:02:54.000 You want free speech, right, Mugscabar?

00:02:57.000 I getcha.

00:02:57.000 Let me explain something to you, boy.

00:03:01.000 Free speech leads to hate speech.

00:03:05.000 Hate speech leads to bigotry.

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00:03:13.000 We don't need your kind of violence on our platforms.

00:03:17.000 Blacko, Blacko, let's stop with the games. 0.94

00:03:20.000 YouTube, the SPLC, you know we're one and the same.

00:03:26.000 My friend, you gotta understand that the First Amendment wasn't made for people like you.

00:03:31.000 It was made for good people.

00:03:33.000 Fair people.

00:03:34.000 People like me.

00:03:38.000 This ain't complicated, Blacko. 0.99

00:03:43.000 Free speech hurts people.

00:03:44.000 I ain't never really cared about hurting people.

00:03:53.000 I care about that.

00:03:56.000 What do you wetbacks call it? 1.00

00:03:58.000 Dineros?

00:04:01.000 You gotta make a decision, buddy.

00:04:03.000 What you fixin' to do?

00:04:05.000 I'm gonna fix you!

00:04:07.000 The End?

00:04:09.000 No, not yet.

00:04:11.000 I'm gonna fix you!

00:04:14.000 Screaming Screaming

00:04:23.000 Music Music

00:04:54.000 that's probably you want the squeegee I'll squeegee You don't want me to squeegee your windshield? 1.00

00:04:59.000 Are you sure?

00:05:00.000 That's what that is.

00:05:01.000 Actually, I realize we actually have my half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richman, here.

00:05:04.000 So I have to make sure that our wonderful sponsor, Walther's, so you can see that it's unloaded.

00:05:08.000 It still does have to be facing you.

00:05:11.000 Thank you, Walther.

00:05:12.000 I think it's OK.

00:05:13.000 I don't know if we're happy about this.

00:05:15.000 I'm not practicing firearm safety.

00:05:17.000 We're going to have James O'Keefe on the show today.

00:05:19.000 Question of the day before we move on.

00:05:19.000 Oh, nice.

00:05:20.000 This is a special episode.

00:05:21.000 It's a legal update episode because, oh my god, it's been a week. 0.88

00:05:24.000 Damn straight.

00:05:25.000 We'll get into all of the false DMCAs as well as the Facebook. 0.92

00:05:29.000 All the recent de-boosting of our videos.

00:05:32.000 But my question to you is, which sin do you think is the most egregious?

00:05:34.000 Are you tired of most of the DMCA's on YouTube, Facebook's lack of transparency, or professors like Charles Hermes?

00:05:39.000 Because someone getting sued, Larry!

00:05:41.000 I want to make sure that we understand here.

00:05:45.000 We are beyond the point of playing nicely.

00:05:47.000 Hey, we have Pentelus Comedy here.

00:05:49.000 How are you, sir?

00:05:50.000 I'm happy to be here.

00:05:50.000 I'm very good.

00:05:51.000 You're aiming to get over 1,000 YouTube subscribers.

00:05:53.000 It's Pantelis Comedy, right?

00:05:54.000 That's it.

00:05:55.000 That'll be great.

00:05:55.000 And he writes for the show, actually.

00:05:57.000 He's one of the few writers we have.

00:05:58.000 Helps us behind the scenes, part-time.

00:06:00.000 He's brilliant.

00:06:00.000 Greek from Montreal.

00:06:02.000 Used to hate the sound of this kind of accent.

00:06:04.000 Now it makes me homesick.

00:06:05.000 Show me your hood pass. 0.97

00:06:05.000 Quarter black carrot. 0.97

00:06:06.000 What's up?

00:06:07.000 Gerald Morgan, Jr.

00:06:07.000 Terrible.

00:06:08.000 How are you, sir?

00:06:08.000 I'm doing well, sir.

00:06:09.000 How are you?

00:06:09.000 Wine of the day is?

00:06:10.000 Wine of the day is Morlaix Corte Vele.

00:06:12.000 It's an accent aigu. 1.00

00:06:12.000 Cour de Valais. 1.00

00:06:13.000 Is he pronouncing that correctly, Pantelis?

00:06:15.000 Aigu.

00:06:16.000 Yeah, it's close enough.

00:06:17.000 Valais.

00:06:17.000 It's correct.

00:06:18.000 Tattoos, I don't know.

00:06:21.000 We have my half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richmond, here.

00:06:23.000 People are really excited for you to be here.

00:06:24.000 Hi, friends.

00:06:25.000 What I always find funny is that before, he's always completely off the wall, and then he tries to get professional once we go live.

00:06:29.000 He's like, it's real buttoned up right as the show starts.

00:06:31.000 Well, before we move into all of the legal updates and the potential legal actions, our hashtag-crowder anti-Oscars party.

00:06:39.000 The costume winner was Chase Huckle.

00:06:41.000 Is that how it's pronounced?

00:06:42.000 Chase Huckle.

00:06:43.000 Sea Shark 13.

00:06:44.000 We have that over.

00:06:45.000 We have that image there.

00:06:46.000 He had a Tranny Bain costume. 0.95

00:06:47.000 Look at that.

00:06:48.000 Look at him.

00:06:49.000 Big fan.

00:06:50.000 And then the best Bill Richmond, half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richmond art contest winner is Conservative Jedi.

00:06:54.000 I think we have that So you guys are going to be winning a t-shirt and or mug.

00:06:58.000 I don't know exactly.

00:07:00.000 This is a whole different show today.

00:07:03.000 We have a 7 plus 1 by the way to get to after James O'Keefe's 7 plus 1 top big tech legal dramas.

00:07:08.000 A little bit of a theme here.

00:07:10.000 I feel so bad because Pantelis is from Montreal.

00:07:13.000 He calls in by Skype and he works for the pitch meetings every morning and then this week because of all the sh** That's been going on legally from the Oscars livestream, which we'll get to in a second.

00:07:22.000 Pantelis was here and he had very little to do because we weren't able to do the shows.

00:07:26.000 But I got the lift.

00:07:26.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:07:29.000 We're in California.

00:07:32.000 I'm not comfortable with this!

00:07:33.000 Did I already ruin the show?

00:07:35.000 No, I'm glad you got to come.

00:07:37.000 We'll have you back out here soon, I hope.

00:07:39.000 What is this?

00:07:40.000 This is a very bizarre story.

00:07:41.000 We'll have you back out here soon, right?

00:07:43.000 Right, Pentelus?

00:07:43.000 Yeah, of course.

00:07:44.000 When, you know, legal troubles are done, I can come around with a message.

00:07:47.000 That means you'll never be back.

00:07:48.000 Yes, exactly.

00:07:49.000 You're next on the list.

00:07:50.000 After I get sued, yeah, just now.

00:07:51.000 I also thought, by the way, we're going to make a beer from Brodigan's beard.

00:07:56.000 We might want to take some yeast from your beard and do a control sample and see which beard yields the taste of your beer.

00:08:03.000 That's a good idea. 0.94

00:08:04.000 It sounds somewhat disgusting.

00:08:05.000 No, it's not.

00:08:05.000 I've had beard beer before.

00:08:07.000 It's delicious.

00:08:07.000 Really?

00:08:08.000 What?

00:08:08.000 Yeah.

00:08:09.000 I've had beer from some guy's beard before.

00:08:11.000 Is this like your experimental college days?

00:08:13.000 No, no, no.

00:08:14.000 Someone out there can tell me.

00:08:14.000 It was rogue.

00:08:15.000 I think it was Rogue Brewery, but I thought, oh, this is the last time I send my wife on a beer run. 1.00

00:08:20.000 I punched her in the face a few times, so I don't know what's what.

00:08:22.000 Gave her a fresh one. 0.91

00:08:22.000 And I was like, this beard beer is delicious. 0.91

00:08:25.000 Really?

00:08:26.000 Well, every time I hear something like that, it makes me think.

00:08:26.000 Yes.

00:08:28.000 We did a story about a woman who made it with her My legal representation is present.

00:08:32.000 You think this will bode well for us in a court? 1.00

00:08:34.000 They're gonna show a clip from you, you sick bastard. 1.00

00:08:35.000 It's true. 1.00

00:08:36.000 It'll show them behind the scenes.

00:08:37.000 So listen, this is why half-Asian lawyer Bill Richmond is here.

00:08:37.000 All right.

00:08:39.000 I have no idea.

00:08:40.000 The line was crossed with me on the show.

00:08:41.000 I had to deal with it.

00:08:42.000 My legal representation is present.

00:08:43.000 You think this will bode well for us in a court? 1.00

00:08:45.000 They're going to show a clip from you, you sick bastard. 1.00

00:08:48.000 It's true. 1.00

00:08:49.000 It'll show them behind the scenes.

00:08:50.000 All right.

00:08:51.000 So listen, this is why half-Asian lawyer Bill Richman is here.

00:08:52.000 How are you, sir?

00:08:53.000 So let's explain for people who don't know, we have a few things to get to.

00:08:56.000 What happened on YouTube, why you guys have not seen the Oscar stream.

00:08:59.000 And by the way, they're biding their time hoping that by the time this last false strike on our Oscar stream is removed, you guys won't want to see it.

00:09:05.000 Make sure when that Oscar stream is up.

00:09:08.000 You like it and comment till the cows come home so they see that, you know what, they don't get to play this game.

00:09:12.000 But we'll move on to YouTube as well as some other issues that have been occurring here behind the scenes.

00:09:16.000 And it's just gotten to the point where our legal battles, you know, we're at the point we've had you on Retainer, you're probably going to be coming on full time.

00:09:22.000 It's really becoming a full time job.

00:09:24.000 How many, explain for people before we get to Facebook and James O'Keefe, the Oscars live stream.

00:09:29.000 Explain to people what happened there.

00:09:32.000 I mean it's a multiple battle war that we fought over the last kind of 72 hours.

00:09:37.000 This week has been pretty nuts but just on the stream itself and then the archive there was an initial takedown.

00:09:42.000 I think a lot of folks a lot of the followers audience and fans saw that it got cut down right by an ABC Disney strike.

00:09:50.000 copyright strike, we're saying, hey, you're violating this and that, shut it down right

00:09:53.000 in the middle.

00:09:54.000 And just to focus right on that, the kind of arc of just the ABC Disney, we get the

00:09:59.000 notification, the next day we file a counter notification, we work with some of our channel

00:10:03.000 partners, we get in there, start talking to YouTube lawyers, et cetera.

00:10:06.000 Before we go, let me say, there were four strikes.

00:10:08.000 Four strikes effectively on the same piece of content.

00:10:11.000 Correct.

00:10:11.000 Four strikes on the same piece of content within 24 hours.

00:10:13.000 Excessive.

00:10:14.000 Three of them have been retracted or struck down, whatever term you want to use.

00:10:18.000 Three of them!

00:10:19.000 Or dropped.

00:10:19.000 Especially the one that happened during the livestream that caused us to be able to livestream on YouTube.

00:10:23.000 We had 40,000 people watching live.

00:10:24.000 But this is important to note.

00:10:25.000 We were well climbing to 50,000.

00:10:27.000 Yes.

00:10:28.000 This is important to note.

00:10:29.000 And it was a hard strike.

00:10:30.000 You get three of those, I think, in three months.

00:10:32.000 We're no longer able to broadcast.

00:10:34.000 Period.

00:10:34.000 So all of the strikes, we should mention this, that are hard legal strikes, where when you file a counter notice, that's, hey, see you in court.

00:10:41.000 And they're legally liable if it's a false strike.

00:10:43.000 They're all gone.

00:10:44.000 We've never lost.

00:10:45.000 Yeah, so we get this one, the first one of the four, ABC Disney comes in, everything just blows up on Sunday night.

00:10:52.000 Then on Monday, we're following the things that we need to do, everyone's getting crazy, trying to investigate what is ABC Disney doing, reaching out to YouTube.

00:10:59.000 Come Tuesday, they've dropped it.

00:11:02.000 They've withdrawn it, they've looked at all of our arguments, and they've said, oops, we're done.

00:11:06.000 They drop it.

00:11:07.000 Well, that's just the first of the four.

00:11:10.000 So within the stream itself, after the ABC Disney one comes off on Tuesday, the Academy Awards decides that they want to have the same thing.

00:11:19.000 I don't know that they're not run by the same parent company.

00:11:22.000 I'm not entirely sure the Academy is.

00:11:23.000 Come on.

00:11:23.000 Either way.

00:11:25.000 I think they're in cahoots.

00:11:25.000 He can't say it.

00:11:26.000 Go ahead.

00:11:29.000 It's not outside the realm of possibility.

00:11:29.000 Yeah.

00:11:31.000 I mean, look, they're obviously financially, there's no secret, it's not even to be critical, but they have a network, the network's doing an event, and they're streaming the event, and the event is the Academy Awards.

00:11:42.000 So now the Academy comes in after ABC Disney has given up and says, oh, no, no, no, no, we're going to keep you down on the mat.

00:11:48.000 But within 24 hours, again, we unleash the whole thing again, and they file a response back to our response, or a reply, if you will, that says, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're totally right.

00:12:00.000 Four minutes later.

00:12:00.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:12:03.000 48 seconds later.

00:12:04.000 48 seconds later.

00:12:05.000 The claim is dropped.

00:12:06.000 The claim is dropped.

00:12:08.000 Off the stream.

00:12:08.000 But!

00:12:09.000 That's not it.

00:12:10.000 That's not the whole story.

00:12:11.000 No, no, that's just two.

00:12:12.000 That's just two of the four.

00:12:13.000 Hold on, let me interject real quick.

00:12:15.000 So people understand, this is a tactic that they use.

00:12:17.000 So this is great that we're able to get these strikes removed, right?

00:12:19.000 You can't go back.

00:12:21.000 All but one.

00:12:22.000 You can't go back.

00:12:22.000 Right?

00:12:22.000 We can't go back to Sunday night and get that live stream back.

00:12:25.000 We can't get those people back watching the show.

00:12:27.000 And that's what's so bad.

00:12:28.000 And you can't do anything about it real time.

00:12:30.000 Hold on, let's go through the strikes and then I want to get into that and any questions you have.

00:12:32.000 Sorry, I'm just a little fired up.

00:12:33.000 So that's number strike two.

00:12:34.000 And then we re-uploaded the archive, right?

00:12:36.000 Because the stream was cut at an hour.

00:12:38.000 Well, we're going to re-upload the three hours.

00:12:40.000 Everyone kept working.

00:12:41.000 Everyone kept putting their contributions together.

00:12:43.000 Everyone here, by the way, worked tirelessly all night because exporting a four-hour HD file re-export took all night.

00:12:49.000 They were supposed to have a day off.

00:12:50.000 No one's had time off.

00:12:51.000 I'm incredibly appreciative to everyone, even Brendan.

00:12:54.000 Continue.

00:12:56.000 Number three.

00:12:57.000 I mean, they're coming now after the Archive, right?

00:12:59.000 They've said, okay, well, we were able to cut you off in an hour, hour and a half on the stream, but now you've got the full thing.

00:13:05.000 You're uploading it so that the people can actually see what happened, and they throw the same ones in again.

00:13:10.000 So we've got this Academy coming in.

00:13:12.000 ABC Disney, though, appeared to have learned their lesson, and they did not attack on the Archive.

00:13:17.000 But the Academy goes in, they do theirs, now they've dropped theirs again, and then we had a fourth one on the Archive, which is still there, and we're still fighting right now.

00:13:24.000 Be clear though, the fourth one, and this is why this is so important for people to understand, there's a broken YouTube system.

00:13:29.000 If you file a hard strike, and for people out there, I know a lot of people are looking for legal representation, and we're planning on trying to provide some more assistance to other people out there at some point.

00:13:37.000 We're just not there yet.

00:13:38.000 Join up at Mug Club, we'll have more infrastructure.

00:13:40.000 But the hard strikes, that's different from a copyright claim that demonetizes you.

00:13:45.000 Almost all of our stuff is demonetized.

00:13:46.000 We do a parody video, they demonetize us and say, you used the Rocky track.

00:13:50.000 But we did a direct parody of Rocky.

00:13:51.000 We know it's fair use.

00:13:53.000 On that point, by the way, transformative, do you have the numbers from the Oscars?

00:13:56.000 What it was?

00:13:57.000 The actual numbers?

00:13:57.000 It was a three-something hour stream.

00:13:59.000 Less than two minutes, I believe.

00:14:01.000 It was two hours and thirty-four minutes of our content.

00:14:06.000 Meaning sketches, totally original, non-Oscars at all.

00:14:10.000 31 minutes of commentary, just us talking about it.

00:14:14.000 What I would say, visual and audio overlays that transform the original work into something that is a new work and is critical of the original work.

00:14:23.000 I had to fit into a Freddie Mercury slash Eddie Murphy raw leather jacket.

00:14:27.000 That's transformative.

00:14:28.000 Everything about it was transformative.

00:14:29.000 I was a trophy!

00:14:30.000 I know!

00:14:31.000 We were all transformed.

00:14:34.000 Four minutes of total time of the Oscars being full screen on our screen.

00:14:38.000 Right, four minutes.

00:14:39.000 And that means with no commentary at all?

00:14:41.000 No, with commentary.

00:14:42.000 Still with commentary.

00:14:44.000 How many minutes of just the Oscars without commentary?

00:14:46.000 You could count it in seconds.

00:14:47.000 Is that like 1 in 124?

00:14:50.000 I don't know what it is.

00:14:51.000 So would that qualify as transformative?

00:14:52.000 Because again, you just can't rip people's content, but the law is it has to be transformative.

00:14:57.000 Would that constitute transformative?

00:14:58.000 I mean, it's not only transformative, but one of the other factors is how much of the original work are you just showing wholesale?

00:15:04.000 And that's what you're doing is you're coming in, you're commenting, you're adding visuals, you're actually specifically critiquing the work.

00:15:10.000 And so of the few minutes, or really actually seconds when you break it down, a few seconds of clips here, a few seconds of clips there, where you're literally taking a breath between comments.

00:15:19.000 I mean, that's what that adds up to over almost three hours.

00:15:22.000 I think the most amount of time we watched was Rami Malek's speech because we said, oh, he seems like a real class act.

00:15:27.000 And we commented during it too.

00:15:28.000 We were like, oh, that's a good thing.

00:15:29.000 We'll give you one, Oscars.

00:15:32.000 Were you watching it from me?

00:15:33.000 Yeah, of course.

00:15:34.000 Until it got shut down.

00:15:36.000 I'm the one who got it shut down.

00:15:37.000 I'm the one who told ABC about it.

00:15:41.000 I've got a question.

00:15:42.000 It's for you, half-Asian lawyer Bill Richmond.

00:15:44.000 Yes, sir.

00:15:45.000 If they're repeatedly proven to be false claims, is there a legal recourse for us to be like, hey, listen, man, this is three, four times, obviously it's on purpose.

00:15:54.000 So there is.

00:15:55.000 There is a whole procedure involved with doing that.

00:15:58.000 And one of the things is that we can get involved with, sorry about that.

00:16:01.000 You can get involved with going after some of these, you know, random accounts that are doing small fake claims and maybe they do one a month or two or three a month.

00:16:09.000 And look, we've got a lot of things that are happening.

00:16:10.000 We can take away from dealing with this or we can go back in the war room and start dealing with these.

00:16:15.000 But when they get to a level like this, when you have major companies that are coming in and saying, Hey, we really don't like you creating new content and transforming our works in a way that appeals to this audience.

00:16:26.000 That's when we have to stand up and do something different.

00:16:28.000 Right.

00:16:28.000 And here, you know, it's an indictment of what they are doing themselves that these claims get dropped so quick.

00:16:34.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:16:34.000 They know all of the claims are bogus.

00:16:36.000 Right.

00:16:36.000 This is what's important for people who are out there.

00:16:37.000 This isn't just about us.

00:16:38.000 We'll get to Facebook in a second.

00:16:39.000 We just happen to be an example, unfortunately, because particularly on YouTube, we're the number one conservative channel, so we kind of are the blueprint.

00:16:45.000 But tomorrow, it could be you.

00:16:46.000 One of you could be the blueprint.

00:16:47.000 Once you get popular enough, they will come for you.

00:16:50.000 And they're coming for all of us.

00:16:51.000 That's what's important.

00:16:52.000 That's why we have this at the Latte with Cracker shop, the deep platform in this shirt.

00:16:55.000 Mug Club and our sponsors like Walther keep us in the game.

00:16:58.000 Yeah.

00:16:59.000 We've been demonetized on a lot of content.

00:17:01.000 A ton of content.

00:17:03.000 And that's not small money, by the way.

00:17:04.000 No, and it's not small money.

00:17:05.000 That being said, that's, yeah, and that's really easy to do because they can say, oh, we're going to claim this, we're going to claim that.

00:17:05.000 And increasingly, lately.

00:17:09.000 There really aren't, there's no recourse.

00:17:11.000 Now, when they try to hard strike your channel, that's where they, in fact, someone has manually submitted a legal notice and we, Bill, half-Asian Bill, uh, half-Asian Bill Richman, manually submits a count, is it a counter notice?

00:17:22.000 Counter notification.

00:17:22.000 What is it?

00:17:23.000 Okay, counter notification.

00:17:24.000 And at that point, It goes to the courts.

00:17:26.000 In other words, at that point, it's like, OK, listen, if you are lying here, now we're getting into legal hot water.

00:17:31.000 They said, OK, we don't want any part of this.

00:17:32.000 We've never lost.

00:17:34.000 They've always retracted those.

00:17:35.000 The thing is, it's the same claim.

00:17:37.000 They retracted the hard legal strikes on the stream.

00:17:40.000 It's the same claim on the archive.

00:17:43.000 It's just there's no recourse because it blocks it in all countries.

00:17:46.000 They're saying, we're not hard striking your channel.

00:17:47.000 We're just blocking it in all countries so no one can see it.

00:17:50.000 And what do they have?

00:17:50.000 They have a month to respond?

00:17:51.000 Something like that?

00:17:52.000 It's a broken system.

00:17:54.000 They've got a month to respond, and then there's a different process related to it.

00:17:57.000 But ultimately, that is why it's a criticism of YouTube's system.

00:18:00.000 Because when you think about it, all the history of what we have done over the last year, 18 months, two years, has been time and time and time again demonstrating how these claims are bogus.

00:18:10.000 They're just used to disrupt business. 0.99

00:18:11.000 They're used to make people have to stay late for the show to have to pay more people, and do more resources, and redo work, and ultimately disrupt the audience.

00:18:19.000 And even though they know it's not ultimately going to stop us, They know it is going to have a disruptive effect, and it's the only thing they can do, so they keep doing it.

00:18:26.000 But how do they keep doing it?

00:18:28.000 YouTube allows it to happen.

00:18:29.000 So it's not a system where, despite 10, 20, 30, 100 false claims that we've won every time, and so they have to affirmatively prove it before we get affected.

00:18:40.000 It's still, we get affected, and then we have to come and prove it the other way.

00:18:44.000 Right, exactly.

00:18:46.000 After the stream is over.

00:18:47.000 Four days after the event has occurred.

00:18:49.000 And this is pretty consistent across the board, by the way, disproportionately with conservative channels.

00:18:53.000 You know, we went out there when that lady came up who was talking about it, was it Ain't It Cool News?

00:18:57.000 She came out, and we said, have you been affected at all by the adpocalypse?

00:19:00.000 She's like, no, not at all.

00:19:01.000 And I have someone I contact at YouTube, like, could we have a name?

00:19:03.000 Yeah.

00:19:04.000 No.

00:19:05.000 No.

00:19:06.000 That's so cool.

00:19:07.000 Well, look, and it's a time-sensitive thing, right?

00:19:10.000 So the Oscars, they happen.

00:19:11.000 People kind of move on from it.

00:19:13.000 Obviously the show's fun and entertaining.

00:19:14.000 You can go back to it.

00:19:15.000 Think about it this way.

00:19:16.000 Think about if we're talking about a presidential election or a Senate election or some bill that's trying to be passed in Congress and they're like, we're commenting on what they're doing, talking about it.

00:19:24.000 Or if Congress is putting something out for us, we're commenting on that.

00:19:27.000 They can shut us down so that we can't influence people.

00:19:29.000 They tried to shut us down once with a presidential debate.

00:19:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:33.000 That's horrible.

00:19:34.000 This is a tool that's disproportionately used by the left.

00:19:37.000 This is what people need to understand, because conservatives don't go out and try and abuse the system.

00:19:40.000 You can find more content than you can watch in a lifetime. 0.86

00:19:43.000 Everything from calling me gay, to a secret transvestite, to a part of the Illuminati, to a Nazi. 0.92

00:19:49.000 Secret? 0.96

00:19:49.000 I don't believe in that. 0.96

00:19:50.000 Come on, let's be honest.

00:19:52.000 We just don't have enough female actresses here. 1.00

00:19:54.000 Thanks.

00:19:55.000 But we don't try and shut those down.

00:19:57.000 You don't try and shut any of those down.

00:19:59.000 We actively, as a matter of fact, one time someone ripped an entire show.

00:20:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:20:03.000 And we just reached out to them and said, hey, listen, man, I appreciate the zeal, but could you take it down because it's our whole show.

00:20:09.000 Yeah.

00:20:10.000 And we'd rather you just maybe take a clip and direct them to our show.

00:20:12.000 This person put up a clip instead and directed them to our whole show.

00:20:15.000 Perfect.

00:20:15.000 We go out of our way to make sure that we are following the kind of fair use rules that we preach.

00:20:20.000 I'm just going to tell you something here.

00:20:22.000 We're not talking about information.

00:20:23.000 We're not talking about a request from... Somebody getting sued!

00:20:26.000 Your glasses!

00:20:26.000 Your teeth!

00:20:27.000 Something getting f***ed up, Larry! 0.98

00:20:29.000 That's why we got half-Asian lawyer Bill Richman here.

00:20:31.000 Is there anything that you think I've missed on YouTube?

00:20:32.000 Because now this moves us on to...

00:20:35.000 The big thing that many of you may not know about this week, if you haven't been following James O'Keefe, is the Facebook issue.

00:20:41.000 So all week, picture this, if this were your job, okay, and you suck at math, which, okay, I do as well, and someone said, you have to do math all day.

00:20:50.000 That's your job.

00:20:51.000 That's been my job this week, is going back and forth with Bill on legal issues, going, what can we do?

00:20:57.000 I'm not good at this.

00:20:58.000 I want to focus on creating content.

00:21:00.000 I want to focus on creating more shows.

00:21:02.000 And this week, we were precluded from doing any of that.

00:21:04.000 And poor Pentelis was here.

00:21:06.000 He just wanted to have a good time.

00:21:07.000 He just wanted to tell the jokes, as they say in Montreal, the Greek sound.

00:21:10.000 And instead, he's sitting here going, what's happening with your lawyer?

00:21:12.000 I can't believe it. 1.00

00:21:13.000 That's bullshit. 1.00

00:21:14.000 That's exactly what I said. 1.00

00:21:16.000 That is literally a quote.

00:21:17.000 That's exactly what you said.

00:21:18.000 Bro.

00:21:20.000 Okay, so we had YouTube, and then we have Facebook.

00:21:23.000 Well, let me give you a little bit of history here with Facebook.

00:21:26.000 I guess, Bill, why don't you jump in kind of on the general history with Facebook before we're going to have James O'Keefe want to talk about the most recent, I don't know, at this point, is it even a sin?

00:21:35.000 At this point, what do you call it?

00:21:36.000 Did you just call it, I mean, it's just dishonesty?

00:21:38.000 It's just, I don't know.

00:21:39.000 Go ahead, Bill.

00:21:40.000 So immediately after we met in the half-Asian zone, We dealt with the Facebook debacle.

00:21:45.000 And a lot of folks were around then.

00:21:47.000 A lot of the early long-time fans knew that there was a suspicion that things were not going right.

00:21:53.000 And at the time, before the Gizmodo article came out, you were submitting-

00:21:57.000 I didn't know you, that's how I met you.

00:21:58.000 We did not even know each other.

00:21:59.000 And at that point, you finally realized, okay, after months and months of trying to figure out

00:22:03.000 why is my whole advertising platform being threatened through Facebook, why is all of this negativity happening?

00:22:10.000 Why am I literally sending them hard checks with money?

00:22:13.000 This is important for people to note with Facebook.

00:22:14.000 I've run ads on Facebook for years.

00:22:16.000 What happened was all of a sudden they came to me and said, hey, you didn't pay your tab.

00:22:21.000 I said, well, hold on a second.

00:22:22.000 You've charged me for two years every single week, and you've charged me every single week thereafter.

00:22:26.000 There's just a two-week gap.

00:22:28.000 I don't know what you guys did, but here's my credit card.

00:22:30.000 Here's my PayPal.

00:22:31.000 Fix it.

00:22:31.000 They said, we can't.

00:22:32.000 You're not good on your tab.

00:22:33.000 I said, well, hold on a second.

00:22:34.000 Here's another credit card.

00:22:35.000 I don't know.

00:22:36.000 You have to talk with accounts.

00:22:37.000 And I said, OK, hold on.

00:22:38.000 Let me talk with accounts.

00:22:39.000 But you're still charging me for ads.

00:22:41.000 They would not answer the call.

00:22:42.000 They said, we're going to put your account into delinquency.

00:22:44.000 That means creditors go after me.

00:22:45.000 You can destroy your life.

00:22:47.000 What did I do?

00:22:47.000 Your good friend Jordan said, mail them a check physically to accounts payable.

00:22:51.000 They deposited it!

00:22:53.000 I think we have it as an overlay here.

00:22:55.000 And then they still said, oh, your account isn't in good standing.

00:22:58.000 I'm like, well, hold on a second.

00:22:59.000 You've taken the money, and you're still taking money for ads.

00:23:02.000 What do I do?

00:23:02.000 And then the Gizmodo article comes out.

00:23:04.000 This was in 2016, where I was named as someone.

00:23:08.000 And this isn't about, this is one thing, you know, Alex Jones was on Joe Rogan.

00:23:10.000 We were talking about it.

00:23:12.000 We're going to get into that in a second, Joe.

00:23:13.000 Choke me out, OK?

00:23:15.000 Interdimensional elf demons. 0.91

00:23:16.000 I actually thought it was very interesting.

00:23:18.000 Very entertaining.

00:23:19.000 You're interdimensional demon elves. 1.00

00:23:20.000 Interdimensional aliens. 0.96

00:23:21.000 I'm not talking aliens.

00:23:22.000 It's the Clockwork Elves, man. 1.00

00:23:24.000 The Clockwork Elves. 0.93

00:23:27.000 Okay, Joe.

00:23:28.000 There's a lot of this.

00:23:29.000 Let's do this right now!

00:23:30.000 It was wildly entertaining.

00:23:31.000 Your face is not really enough for the impression.

00:23:34.000 But I don't even, what was I saying?

00:23:36.000 I was saying something before.

00:23:37.000 Oh, okay, so this happened with the Facebook shoot.

00:23:38.000 Gizmodo, yeah.

00:23:38.000 And then Gizmodo, there was an article leaked where we were manually selected as a page to throttle.

00:23:45.000 It was Ted Cruz, Chris Kyle Foundation, and myself.

00:23:48.000 And I called Bill, not knowing about the time, saying, I don't know if this is related to the accounting issue, but can you tell me what you think?

00:23:55.000 And he says, let me check it out, and I'll call you back.

00:23:57.000 And then you called me back, and you said, yeah, this looks really bad.

00:24:01.000 Well, you know, I mean, you get a call and you hear something like this and you think, crackpot!

00:24:05.000 But you can imagine, I get a lot of calls that are, you know, some are, you know, got credibility and some don't.

00:24:13.000 And so you gotta check them out.

00:24:14.000 And when we started to look into it and we started to investigate and we started to say, If you investigate it as a true thing, what are the things you could use to verify that this is the way that it's happening?

00:24:23.000 And when you looked at, I mean, before I even got involved, you were time after time after again, message, message, message, message, money, money, money, card, card, card, check, nothing.

00:24:32.000 And then Gizmodo just confirmed the suspicions that you had at the time that there was something happening.

00:24:37.000 And what the big part here is that we've always said this, right?

00:24:40.000 You know, people use the term censorship, which we understand is a governmental thing versus a private company thing.

00:24:45.000 And hey, this is their sandbox.

00:24:47.000 They can create certain rules under the Constitution, federal law, state law.

00:24:51.000 They can set the rules for their sandbox and say, I'll invite you in, you can spend some

00:24:57.000 money here, it'll all be good.

00:24:58.000 But the problem is when they say the rules are A, but they're actually enforcing a set

00:25:03.000 of rules called B. And that's what happened here.

00:25:05.000 They're telling you, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars of your money to build your business on this platform because here are the rules.

00:25:12.000 But in reality, the rules were different for you.

00:25:15.000 Right, right.

00:25:16.000 And Breitbart and Chris Kopp.

00:25:17.000 And a lot of conservatives out there.

00:25:19.000 We've seen this disproportionately target conservatives.

00:25:20.000 We'll talk with James O'Keefe about this.

00:25:22.000 This isn't just about us.

00:25:23.000 It's about anyone out there.

00:25:24.000 If you've had suspicions, unfortunately, we have the resources to have confirmed quite a few of these suspicions.

00:25:31.000 It's happening, I don't want to say across the board, but it's certainly happening a lot to conservatives.

00:25:36.000 And a lot of people say, well, I don't know, and there's no way to prove it.

00:25:38.000 Well, you do have to take legal action, and we've done that in the past, but I think it has to get a lot more severe going forward.

00:25:44.000 Imagine this is your work.

00:25:45.000 I don't know, you own a factory where you make chairs, OK?

00:25:48.000 And you agree to a lease.

00:25:49.000 You build up a factory, and they come in.

00:25:50.000 You have a five-year lease at year two.

00:25:51.000 They say, by the way, we're going to quadruple the lease, what you're paying.

00:25:54.000 You say, well, hold on a second, we have an agreement.

00:25:55.000 They go, nah, there's a loophole in there.

00:25:57.000 But hold on.

00:25:58.000 I paid for this.

00:26:00.000 We had an agreement.

00:26:00.000 That's what's happened with Facebook.

00:26:02.000 That's what's happened with YouTube, is we've come to an agreement largely because they've courted us.

00:26:07.000 They wind and dined us and sent us to New York.

00:26:10.000 Not just largely.

00:26:11.000 I mean, the Facebook emails, I mean, they're basically getting on their knees like, please come spend your money on our ads.

00:26:18.000 The next email is, well, but we actually are taking your money, but we don't know where the money's going.

00:26:22.000 It's just going into the Zucker zone.

00:26:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:26:25.000 The Zucker Zone, where all the conservatives sit there at that summit, and they're like, oh, really?

00:26:29.000 I think you're earnest, Zucker.

00:26:30.000 Please don't harm me!

00:26:31.000 And he's like, I am a human.

00:26:33.000 Drink the water.

00:26:34.000 Drink the water.

00:26:34.000 I am a human.

00:26:35.000 I wonder what George Soros is doing right now.

00:26:37.000 Round him up!

00:26:39.000 Here's my question.

00:26:40.000 So with that, that's how we met.

00:26:42.000 Yeah.

00:26:42.000 The result there was you spoke with, would you say, top legal brass at Facebook?

00:26:47.000 They had some outside counsel.

00:26:48.000 The outside counsel were very helpful.

00:26:50.000 The inside folks, they had to get to the right folks. 0.68

00:26:52.000 But ultimately, there was none of this, you know, screw you, we're not going to do what you want, what you're saying is completely bogus.

00:26:59.000 It was, OK, here, we're going to apply your money. 0.92

00:27:02.000 Here's your money back.

00:27:03.000 I mean, it was a resolution that got us what we needed and in a place to where they had said.

00:27:09.000 The resolution was a little more acquiescent than that.

00:27:11.000 Oh yeah.

00:27:12.000 Okay, it was resolved outside of court, so we can't necessarily discuss it, but listen. 0.95

00:27:17.000 They weren't like, bullsh**.

00:27:20.000 A, because they weren't Pentelus, but B, they didn't deny it. 0.96

00:27:24.000 It was a result.

00:27:25.000 And the point was, A, if there's a problem going forward, We'll be there to make sure it's okay.

00:27:29.000 And look, there's got to be a fairness here to say, you know, Facebook's one of the largest employers in the country.

00:27:34.000 Sure.

00:27:34.000 There's a lot of people, and there's maybe a times where you could say, hey, someone's acting rogue, or hey, maybe there's an unintentional, but, you know, the Gizmodo article was most important because it wasn't just one person saying, hey, I looked in the cubicle next door and this guy's deleting conservative pages, right?

00:27:47.000 It was like, no, no, there's a whole room of people, and then actually we have papers, and the papers say, man, The conservatives, right?

00:27:52.000 It's like, well, I accidentally printed this policy and put it into place for years.

00:27:56.000 I mean, that's not, there's a difference there.

00:27:58.000 It was a draft, it shouldn't have gotten out, alright?

00:27:59.000 It was a draft.

00:28:00.000 And part of the resolution with Facebook, I think we can say this, was, we're going to make sure this doesn't happen again.

00:28:06.000 Right.

00:28:07.000 And so that, you know, we took it with the word, things did change.

00:28:10.000 There was, you know... A little bit.

00:28:12.000 A little bit is a little change.

00:28:13.000 A little bit, a little bit change.

00:28:14.000 Baby steps, baby steps in the elevator.

00:28:14.000 A little bit, a little bit change.

00:28:17.000 Baby steps, DMT, sex party in Silicon Valley. 0.71

00:28:18.000 Nice, nice. 0.90

00:28:19.000 Yes, all true.

00:28:22.000 And so, you know, we move on, right?

00:28:23.000 We move on to get back to the business of content, of red-faced audience.

00:28:27.000 We'll get to that in a minute.

00:28:28.000 No.

00:28:29.000 And that's what we get to, right?

00:28:30.000 It's like, hey, get back to the content.

00:28:32.000 Yeah, we wanted to get back to the content.

00:28:34.000 And this can happen to any of you.

00:28:35.000 You know this.

00:28:35.000 We've tried to focus on content.

00:28:36.000 We've built up Mug Club to hedge our bets.

00:28:39.000 After this, this is another example of what happened.

00:28:41.000 Facebook started.

00:28:43.000 Before we get to James O'Keefe very soon, Facebook started something called Show Pages.

00:28:46.000 And they reached out to us and they said, hey, we'd like you to be a show page, which shows basically, as I understood it, multimedia-type pages would be in someone's feed, would be given priority.

00:28:56.000 Basically, you would automatically appear at the top of the feed.

00:28:58.000 I don't know exactly what it was.

00:29:00.000 But lower-level people reached out and said, we think you're the perfect kind of content for a show page.

00:29:04.000 And we said, well, hold on.

00:29:05.000 How is this going to work once we convert it?

00:29:06.000 What if it doesn't work?

00:29:07.000 Can we convert back?

00:29:08.000 And they said, you know what?

00:29:09.000 All right, fine.

00:29:09.000 We'll give it a go.

00:29:10.000 And they came back to us and said, uh, we can't make you a show page.

00:29:13.000 Because we want your content.

00:29:14.000 And they said, uh, you're not eligible.

00:29:14.000 Why?

00:29:16.000 So here's what's happened.

00:29:16.000 It's the same thing that's happened with YouTube.

00:29:19.000 When they look at just the numbers, when they look at just the impact, they go, hey, this is the exact kind of content we want on our platform.

00:29:25.000 Very highly engaged.

00:29:27.000 It's content that people are watching on YouTube, for example.

00:29:30.000 We keep people on site.

00:29:31.000 You watch an average of 12 minutes per video over 30 minutes on a podcast.

00:29:35.000 We play by every single rule, and they change it.

00:29:37.000 So they said, please, please, please, please, please turn your show into a show page.

00:29:40.000 We want you to be one of these pioneers as a multimedia show page.

00:29:43.000 Then, ah, you're not allowed to do it.

00:29:45.000 Um, and we always suspected one thing too.

00:29:48.000 We had this, we called it here the YouTube algorithm, the YouTube Facebook sort of equation, where if we would have 20 or 30,000 viewers on YouTube, we'd have a thousand on Facebook.

00:29:57.000 Despite at the time we would have more fans.

00:30:00.000 On Facebook we'd have, I think we have about two and a half million fans, something like that.

00:30:03.000 Two and two and a half million fans.

00:30:04.000 It would be a tenth to a twentieth to a fortieth number.

00:30:07.000 You can compare all of the YouTube views to Facebook.

00:30:09.000 We always suspect, and we're going, well hold on a second, our video, that's our bread and butter, but no one sees them on Facebook.

00:30:15.000 And we have screenshot after screenshot after screenshot of people sending us saying, we're not seeing your stuff in our feed.

00:30:20.000 And that again comes to... We'll never let this happen again, Crowder, we promise! 0.96

00:30:24.000 And we're going, well, it's like we think this is happening again.

00:30:28.000 Now remember, one of the possible explanations here is that they have the crappiest livestream product on the planet.

00:30:35.000 I mean, one of their main offenses could be, well, it's just because our product is Thor.

00:30:41.000 In their defense, you gotta think of the devil's advocate arguments.

00:30:44.000 They could literally come down and say, I'm so sorry, it's our fault, we cannot do this because we are the worst.

00:30:53.000 I heard that the WWE live streams on Facebook are super huge.

00:30:56.000 They're like 50,000 viewers at any given time and they run fine.

00:31:01.000 It's just replicants of McMahon, that's it.

00:31:03.000 I heard a lot of that stuff might be scripted though, so I don't know.

00:31:06.000 It's fake news.

00:31:07.000 It's fake news.

00:31:08.000 Oh lord.

00:31:09.000 It's fake news.

00:31:10.000 I'm sorry.

00:31:11.000 I just love the Greek bunch of y'all stuff.

00:31:12.000 And then, so explain that.

00:31:13.000 It brings us to, we'll have him on in a second, that brings us to what was just revealed in

00:31:16.000 the O'Keefe video.

00:31:17.000 Oh yeah.

00:31:18.000 So do you want to tell people before we bring James out?

00:31:20.000 Sure.

00:31:21.000 So, so most recently, James O'Keefe was, you know, I'm sure everyone's familiar with some

00:31:26.000 of his prior work in doing undercover videos and whatnot, but was able to get some just

00:31:31.000 amazing insider information.

00:31:33.000 And not just someone who decided they wanted to give an anonymous tip, but someone who

00:31:36.000 was willing to put their life at risk, their career, their professional life at risk to

00:31:42.000 describe what was going on behind the scenes regarding de-throttling or throttling.

00:31:47.000 I think it's called de-boosting.

00:31:48.000 De-boost is the name of the program.

00:31:50.000 throttling of live streams and specifically again Stephen Crowder's at the top of that list.

00:31:55.000 And what's important here is I'm this page and the only reason I don't want to do the like I

00:31:59.000 want to talk about myself in Von Braun Joe. I just what I'm saying is we are unfortunately an example

00:32:05.000 uh of potentially anybody but we are the only as far as I know at page that was fingered in

00:32:11.000 both the Gizmodo article back then and now with video live streaming.

00:32:15.000 A big part of that was, we lost so much profit on Facebook, because people weren't clicking the links anymore, traffic was being throttled, so okay, we're gonna focus more on multimedia, and then that went... And we kept saying, well, what's going on here?

00:32:26.000 It doesn't make any sense, we can look at our growth on MugClub, we can look at our growth on YouTube, why is this not applying on Facebook?

00:32:31.000 No answer, no answer, no answer, no answer.

00:32:33.000 That's what's so important to note here, is this is something we had long suspected.

00:32:38.000 Matter of fact, we talked about never live streaming again, On Facebook and just live streaming because we can only split it two ways to YouTube and to Mug Club because we got so few viewers.

00:32:48.000 Then this drops from James O'Keefe and we're sitting there going, okay, he has the code.

00:32:52.000 He has the actual code that's baked into our page.

00:32:55.000 Again, tell me that that's not a dishonest business practice.

00:32:58.000 Wait, if you tell us you can't say the word tranny, all right, fine. 1.00

00:33:02.000 You tell me you're not going to verify us on Instagram.

00:33:04.000 We all, OK, fine.

00:33:04.000 But you can't bake in code that you don't tell us about that inhibits our ability to make a living.

00:33:08.000 Speaking of which, hit the notification bell if you're watching on YouTube, which is really the only place you're probably watching.

00:33:12.000 But more important, join MugClip. 0.80

00:33:15.000 Lightoffcredit.com slash MugClip for $0.27 a day.

00:33:17.000 And subscribe on iTunes as well so you can listen to the audio version.

00:33:20.000 And if we get completely shadow banned or de-platformed, at least we can tell you on the iTunes.

00:33:25.000 I think real quick, let's get him on.

00:33:27.000 Do we have James?

00:33:29.000 We have him here, Bill.

00:33:31.000 It's not cross-examining because we're not in court here, but James O'Keefe, projectveritas.com slash brave.

00:33:37.000 I know they're asking everyone out there to carry cameras with you.

00:33:40.000 And really, if you don't have the hidden camera stuff, you can use your phone.

00:33:43.000 We've used that in the past.

00:33:43.000 We just use an iPhone.

00:33:45.000 I'm on the phone.

00:33:45.000 No, I'm catching you in a felony.

00:33:47.000 James O'Keefe, how are you, sir?

00:33:50.000 Good to be with you.

00:33:51.000 Sorry to hear about the de-boosting, but I'm here to help you answer with information.

00:33:55.000 Well, I appreciate it.

00:33:56.000 I know you let me know about this.

00:33:58.000 You sent me the video, and I saw the response here from The Virgin.

00:34:02.000 And I know Bill has some questions.

00:34:03.000 Bill, do you want to lead this off as far as your questions with James?

00:34:06.000 I would.

00:34:07.000 James, thanks for being available.

00:34:08.000 Obviously, everyone's been following this very closely, and the work is really appreciated, I know, across the community.

00:34:13.000 And probably my first question right off the bat, and I think what a lot of people are interested in knowing is, How did you understand the credibility of the information that you were obtaining, and what steps did you take to make sure that it was verifiably correct?

00:34:29.000 Well, that's a great question.

00:34:30.000 How do we know you're not a liar?

00:34:32.000 Go ahead.

00:34:34.000 Well, this took a long time.

00:34:38.000 Let's see, where do I start?

00:34:40.000 So, about a year ago, we had this insider send us these documents, and this was a lot of documents, and I'm not an engineer, so I don't know exactly what they mean.

00:34:49.000 Fast forward a couple months, we get a lot of information, we get a lot of tips at Project Veritas, as you can imagine, from a lot of people claiming to be a lot of things.

00:34:56.000 Right.

00:34:57.000 And we find out that this person did, in fact, work, or she claimed to work in content review intellectual property.

00:35:04.000 So we look at the documents, and You know, my team went through all these, and we see the word de-boost, and we go, whoa.

00:35:11.000 Because you don't have to be an engineer when you see this term, and I have it in front of me, iAction de-boost live distribution.

00:35:18.000 And there was a screenshot of Mike Cernovich's, this woman had actually taken out a camera and took a picture of the computer screen showing this de-boost.

00:35:28.000 So we're like, oh my God, I can't believe we didn't notice this earlier.

00:35:33.000 Answer your question.

00:35:34.000 I could tell the whole story, but I'll cut it to the bottom line.

00:35:37.000 I have other sources inside Facebook that are not willing to go on the record, of course, and a couple of them logged into the back end and showed me this engineer's name, Danny Ben David, showed me his definition of of de-boosting.

00:35:53.000 So I know this is real.

00:35:54.000 I know that it's not just a made-up document that someone photoshopped because I saw it with my own eyes from another source that corroborated the identity of the engineer and the document itself.

00:36:03.000 But the other source did not have access to the other part of Facebook where this de-boosting activity took place.

00:36:11.000 He could only corroborate that de-boosting was a thing and that Danny Ben-David is in fact someone who works for Facebook.

00:36:17.000 And number three, Facebook's response corroborates the fact that this woman is real because they fired her and I'm actually quite captivated by the response because they say it fired her for in fact leaking these documents.

00:36:32.000 That's a big deal.

00:36:33.000 Notice no denial.

00:36:34.000 Because I do not know why they fired her.

00:36:36.000 We couldn't report how they fired her.

00:36:38.000 We thought maybe she got fired because she was a bad employee. 1.00

00:36:40.000 No, they fired her for leaking these documents. 1.00

00:36:43.000 Would this meet the standard for evidence?

00:36:45.000 Does his case hold water?

00:36:48.000 So in terms of having some substantial evidence, having someone who can corroborate what the evidence is, that is actually what it purports to be, and they can actually explain it, you're going to hit those authenticity, you're going to hit admissibility, so it goes a long way to what you have.

00:37:00.000 And from a practical standpoint, it's not just having one piece of evidence, and that's kind of why I wanted to ask about the credibility.

00:37:05.000 Everything that we do here, and I know that you do as well, is based on not just a rumor or a hearsay or a random anonymous tip, but it's taking those things and verifying them Separately and individually.

00:37:16.000 And so that's knowing what the credibility is and the steps you took.

00:37:19.000 In addition to afterwards getting, you know, essentially verified by Facebook, acknowledging, I think, Stephen, you raise a very good point.

00:37:26.000 Not to include the 7 plus 1, by the way.

00:37:27.000 That's not very well researched, but that'll come up next.

00:37:30.000 Later, later.

00:37:31.000 But the other big point there is that this was the opportunity for them to deny, James, the work that you had done.

00:37:37.000 And they didn't.

00:37:38.000 They, in fact, very much corroborated that these documents, they could have said these documents are fake.

00:37:43.000 Before we get to that, I do have a question.

00:37:45.000 How do you know I was included on the Deboost, amongst the Deboosted? 0.97

00:37:49.000 So, and I have a copy of the, you know, this is the, from the video, this is the actual code.

00:37:55.000 It says iAction, Sigma iAction Deboost Live Distribution.

00:38:00.000 This whistleblower took a screenshot of Mike Cernovich's page, and then she saw this code appear on your page Stephen, we didn't get a screenshot of your page, but we did get a screenshot of the code that appeared on your page.

00:38:17.000 It says, Psi Sigma I action debushed live distribution by this engineer.

00:38:21.000 And that's something that would be discovered in a motion for discovery, motion for enforcement.

00:38:25.000 And I asked the whistleblower, you know, whistleblower insider, whatever you want to call her, I said, would you swear under oath?

00:38:31.000 in a court of law that you saw this on Steven Crowder's page is 100%.

00:38:35.000 She saw this de-boost action taken on your page and the Daily Caller's page and Mike Cernovich's page.

00:38:42.000 She did not see it on any other liberal or political liberal pages.

00:38:48.000 She only saw it on your page.

00:38:49.000 So then I asked you, Steve, and I said, well, did you do anything malicious?

00:38:53.000 Did you talk about suicide in such a way that would get you banned?

00:38:56.000 I probably have in the sense that I said, don't do it.

00:39:00.000 Well, you shouldn't be banned for that, and if you are deboosted, they should be notifying you. 0.92

00:39:05.000 Yes, we certainly were not notified, yeah, of the deboosting.

00:39:09.000 And I think something that's really important here as well, James, and you didn't know this before you released this article.

00:39:13.000 You know, this is how I met Bill Richman.

00:39:15.000 We just talked about the Gizmodo article.

00:39:17.000 Because there was a leak where someone said we were manually throttling pages.

00:39:22.000 Before that, Bill and I had talked about this, we had several videos trending at the top of Facebook.

00:39:27.000 One of them was guns, and I can't remember what the other video was.

00:39:30.000 It could have been the Feminist Film Festival. 1.00

00:39:32.000 And then afterwards, we never trended again.

00:39:34.000 And we had an issue with accounting, and this article came out, and I spoke with Bill.

00:39:38.000 And you didn't know that I was one of the few people named To have been manually throttled before, and I think I'm the only one named in both of these stories.

00:39:48.000 Back in that one, it was Chris Kyle Foundation, Ted Cruz for President, I think Breitbart, and yours truly.

00:39:53.000 And here, the only three that I've heard named are, I believe you said Cernovich, Daily Caller, and myself.

00:39:58.000 So, a big part of us dealing with Facebook was, hey, this ain't gonna happen again, and that's why this story was such a surprise.

00:40:04.000 Well, one of the most shocking things about the story, and this is what the insider said, is that What makes this so damning, what makes this so egregious is that... Listen, let me defend Facebook for one second here.

00:40:16.000 Facebook has thousands of employees that police... There are some anomalies where some crazy low-level employee takes down, you know, Ben Shapiro or takes down Dennis Prager.

00:40:28.000 I actually saw that happen.

00:40:30.000 The insider showed me You know, some things and I saw that they, but people they get put back up.

00:40:35.000 I mean, you can protest, you can say, listen, I didn't do anything wrong.

00:40:38.000 But it is justified with notoriously anti-semitic Jewish scholar, Nazi, Dennis Prager.

00:40:45.000 Yeah, we get Dennis Prager, right?

00:40:47.000 But if he's some anomaly, some low level left wing employee in Facebook takes the guy down, he gets put back up.

00:40:52.000 And there is a commitment to police, this sort of crazed extremist employees at Facebook,

00:41:00.000 because we have 60,000 people, once in a while someone's gonna take someone down,

00:41:04.000 and there's adults in the room.

00:41:05.000 But in this case, the de-boosting, you guys don't know that it's happening to you.

00:41:10.000 That's the thing that is very shocking.

00:41:13.000 That is the reason why I asked her, she said, well the reason why I chose to lose my job and leak these documents, she actually went on food stamps for a few months because she was broke and unemployed, is because she said the people don't know that it's occurring.

00:41:28.000 It doesn't even show up on Facebook's content review, I'm sorry, on Facebook's task Management system.

00:41:34.000 It doesn't show up that they're doing it.

00:41:37.000 And I've got 75 pages of code, iAction.

00:41:41.000 It's automatic.

00:41:42.000 They go through your videos, Stephen.

00:41:42.000 It's machine learning.

00:41:44.000 They convert your videos into text.

00:41:46.000 They find keywords.

00:41:48.000 The keywords trigger an algorithm, which automatically de-boosts you.

00:41:52.000 And you don't know that.

00:41:53.000 We called it something in the office, I think Quarter Black knows this, we called it sort of the Facebook to YouTube ratio, in the sense that we were almost guaranteed whatever stream viewership we had on YouTube, it would be anywhere from one tenth to a thirtieth the amount on Facebook, and same thing for videos that were uploaded.

00:42:07.000 And here's the thing, with YouTube, and I'm not letting YouTube off the hook here, certainly not when we just talked about ABC Disney and the broken system there, We can see how long people are watching our videos for, where they're coming in.

00:42:18.000 We can look at demographics.

00:42:20.000 We can tell exactly how many people are watching.

00:42:22.000 And we can never really tell that with Facebook, and we haven't been able to monetize videos as far as I know on Facebook.

00:42:27.000 But when you have consistently videos, I think our average viewership is close to the million mark.

00:42:33.000 And then on Facebook it's 40,000, 50,000, and there's still a couple million fans who've liked that page proactively.

00:42:40.000 We just assumed it was, well, Facebook's dying off because nobody likes it anymore and they're, you know, snapping wiener pics on Snapchat and Instagram. 0.94

00:42:48.000 Turns out that might not be the case.

00:42:50.000 Did you have some other important...

00:42:51.000 Well, one of the other questions is, in a lot of these instances, when you hear from one of the social media platforms, they'll say, you broke this rule, however subjective or vague the rule might be, and so we're going to have this consequence.

00:43:01.000 But at least we have a rule that we can argue with, or fight with, or that kind of thing.

00:43:05.000 Here, the response from Facebook is very interesting.

00:43:08.000 They say, well, you may have acted with misconduct by uploading to the live stream pre-recorded videos.

00:43:14.000 But what you don't find is, where's the example of this actually happening?

00:43:17.000 If this really was a rule that Facebook had in its policies at some point in the past, and it was actually violated, why hide behind a secret algorithm?

00:43:27.000 I think James has that quote, because I don't think we filled the audience in on that.

00:43:29.000 They did respond, and they didn't deny that they've been doing this.

00:43:34.000 I can read it to you, or you can throw it on screen, but I'm going to read you Facebook's response to this iAction deboost.

00:43:40.000 So what's interesting about the response, Bill, is that Again, within like an hour of our story breaking, Facebook corporate responds to their buddies at theverge.com and all these mainstreaming reporters are buddy-buddy with the people inside Facebook.

00:43:53.000 Facebook says, Some pages that tried to game the system by uploading pre-recorded videos to the live API, a violation of Facebook's policy, if moderators found the video, the action deboost tag would be applied to undo the newsfeed boost otherwise applied to live videos.

00:44:12.000 And Stephen, I asked you, do you recall doing this?

00:44:17.000 No one here has ever done it.

00:44:18.000 I know Quarter Black has been in charge of that. 0.97

00:44:19.000 No one here has ever done it.

00:44:20.000 But if it would have been done, it would have been done a long time ago once to test, because we thought there was something fishy with our live streams.

00:44:26.000 Going, hold on a second, we're getting 1,000 viewers on a live stream here, and we're getting 20, 30,000 on YouTube?

00:44:31.000 What's going on?

00:44:32.000 Let's see if we upload this as a video separately versus a live feed.

00:44:35.000 If it would have been done, and I don't believe that it has, I just don't want to be put on the hook for that.

00:44:39.000 It would have been done once to test a theory.

00:44:43.000 That we thought Facebook is doing exactly what they appear to be doing.

00:44:46.000 So, no, I don't know that we have done it, and we certainly haven't done it consistently, and their answer isn't very... To me, it's not very clear if they just de-boost that video, that feed, or if they de-boost the whole page, because we've spent a lot of money on Facebook advertising, and a big part of that was them courting us, saying, hey, the great thing here, especially with media, is you're going to appear in people's timelines, we really want to be a multimedia platform.

00:45:07.000 They came to us!

00:45:08.000 So that's why it would be nice to have clarification.

00:45:11.000 Well, another thing, another fact that's very interesting is that if you look at the code in the video where it says Sigma Distribution, Sigma is this name of this program authored by this engineer Danny Ben David with the intention of rooting out like suicide.

00:45:27.000 I mean, people on Facebook live stream, Facebook's a big company.

00:45:30.000 People kill themselves on Facebook. 0.97

00:45:31.000 There's pornography, there's people getting chopped in half, there's all gory thing, child porn.

00:45:37.000 The content review agents go through and go through that.

00:45:40.000 So this system was apparently used to combat things like that.

00:45:46.000 That does not exist in Facebook's response, but my insider showed me that the reason why this was taken allegedly, was to combat suicidal or violent things.

00:45:59.000 So I'm hearing two different explanations of what this de-boost is for.

00:46:03.000 If you want my opinion as someone who's done this for 10 years, you know, hidden camera,

00:46:07.000 exposing people, I think they're just caught and they're not debating what we've exposed.

00:46:15.000 They're just sort of obfuscating here.

00:46:18.000 And I think you guys are owed an explanation.

00:46:20.000 I think you need to see the back end and you need to know what's going on with your live stream.

00:46:23.000 In their defense, if it's the child porn issue, they could have seen your nudie scene and been confused. 0.95

00:46:27.000 I just look like a child. 0.98

00:46:29.000 Bill is very baby-like. 0.99

00:46:30.000 They could have thought it was cherubim porn.

00:46:33.000 Do you have any other follow-ups for James?

00:46:36.000 The big thing is, like I was saying, if there really was a violation, then they lead with saying, you have violated X policy, instead of a post-hoc, well okay, our response now for having done this for however many years or months it's been going on, and only to your pages, is because we think you may have done something wrong.

00:46:52.000 But notice the response does not even say, the pages had issues, or the pages that were discussed, or Stephen Crowder did these things.

00:46:59.000 They just say kind of generally, Oh, well, that's why we did it.

00:47:02.000 And that might even be true, but I think, James, your point is correct.

00:47:06.000 There has to be an opening of the kimono.

00:47:08.000 Let's share what exactly are the facts here.

00:47:11.000 Yes, you have to go to the kimono reference, of course.

00:47:13.000 He's trying to make sure if there is to be a lawsuit that he has the Asian card in there, but it's really only half a kimono.

00:47:19.000 It's a very short kimono.

00:47:21.000 It's like Rob Lowe in Thank You for Smoking.

00:47:23.000 I do have a question for you, though, and then a follow-up.

00:47:25.000 Maybe James can also help clarify this.

00:47:27.000 How important would it be if, let's say, an emotion for—is it an emotion for discovery?

00:47:31.000 Is that what it is?

00:47:32.000 Well, you would serve discovery requests.

00:47:33.000 Okay, so how important would it be to, let's say, a case if it were verified that this is a real thing—and it seems like it's a real thing, they're not denying it—and that it was not equally applied across conservative and liberal platforms?

00:47:45.000 Would that change it if they said, well, this was applied pretty much consistently across leftist platforms, not just conservatives?

00:47:52.000 What it would do is it would only mean that everyone is being conned.

00:47:56.000 That's really what it would mean.

00:47:58.000 It does make it worse if it's targeted to a certain political group, just as if it would be bad if it was gone after a certain race or religion or that type of thing.

00:48:06.000 But it's essentially saying a political creed or race or religion is bad, but it's somewhat like hate crimes.

00:48:11.000 The crime is still a crime, regardless of whether it's a hateful or targeted at a specific group.

00:48:16.000 And James, can you confirm anything like that?

00:48:19.000 I know you said your source mentioned this, but do you have any information that could confirm that people on the right were more unfairly targeted?

00:48:26.000 Yes.

00:48:27.000 There's a deboosting, and then there's this other part of the story.

00:48:31.000 I've got these documents on my desk, so I have my facts correct here.

00:48:34.000 These are all screenshots taken by the Woman Who Blew the Whistle, this is something called a troll report.

00:48:40.000 A troll report where they identify language, that there's a whole bunch of tactics they use, there's a glossary of words that are used by individuals, and this guy confirms that they do, in fact, demote bad content.

00:48:54.000 Can you give us some examples of those words?

00:48:56.000 Because I read this, I've seen this, and I was obviously not appalled, but... I wish I could say surprised.

00:49:02.000 Not surprised, just... It was really more of a disappointed, apparently.

00:49:06.000 You did that on Facebook?

00:49:08.000 So I want to make sure I get my facts straight, and this is incontrovertible proof, Stephen.

00:49:12.000 This is not my words, the whistleblower.

00:49:15.000 These are documents obtained of this troll report where they use words like lulz, normie, mainstream media, MSM, the term MSM.

00:49:26.000 These are terms appropriated by conservatives.

00:49:28.000 Liberals don't really use the term MSM on social media.

00:49:31.000 Isn't SJW on there?

00:49:33.000 SJW's on there.

00:49:34.000 What else?

00:49:36.000 No leftist channel.

00:49:37.000 It's not like they've re-appropriated the word and go, we're proudly SJW. 0.56

00:49:41.000 I mean, you know, maybe if you found some like transgender black single mom with rickets, maybe there's someone who would carry that mantle. 1.00

00:49:47.000 But that's something, if they're saying these are words to throttle pages, putting in SJW would definitely disproportionately target conservatives.

00:49:54.000 I don't know why LOL is on that list.

00:49:57.000 So, no, it's LULZ. 0.97

00:49:59.000 It's like a, you know, it's a meme.

00:50:01.000 So this is after, so here's the deal.

00:50:03.000 On the inside of Facebook, we saw this Seiji Yamamoto character, one of the top engineers, right?

00:50:08.000 After the 2016 election, meme culture kind of helped elect President Trump.

00:50:15.000 So they decided to have an influence on elections, and this is one of the most powerful parts of the story.

00:50:19.000 They assigned what's called a troll score.

00:50:23.000 under the fake account index, a special feature leading, this is a direct quote, leading up to important elections, unquote, identifying these keywords that conservatives use.

00:50:34.000 This is like a big deal.

00:50:36.000 And Mark Zuckerberg said under oath and testimony last spring that they don't do this, that they don't make political determinations.

00:50:44.000 Yes, they ban Klansmen and pornography and violence, but they don't But this engineer, Seiji Yamamoto, and he's not a low-level guy.

00:50:51.000 He's the head of the whole department that heads this stuff.

00:50:54.000 We have a copy of the confidential report where they identify these words, and it's all in the documentation that this whistleblower gave to us.

00:51:05.000 All right, do you have any more questions?

00:51:06.000 That's it for right now.

00:51:07.000 Okay, that's it for right now.

00:51:08.000 Well, James, Mr. O'Keefe, please do keep us in the loop, obviously, because we do have a half-Asian Kraken here. 1.00

00:51:14.000 Kraken?

00:51:15.000 Kraken!

00:51:15.000 I don't know why I keep saying it incorrectly.

00:51:17.000 It is projectveritas.com slash brave, not to be confused with that awful Pixar film.

00:51:22.000 It was a big swing and a miss for Pixar with the redhead.

00:51:25.000 James, thank you for being here, brother.

00:51:26.000 We appreciate it.

00:51:27.000 Thanks, Steve.

00:51:28.000 And, no, no, no, you don't need a break.

00:51:30.000 We don't need a break.

00:51:30.000 We're going to be going to the 7 Plus 1 here in just now, I think.

00:51:34.000 Yeah, okay, hold on.

00:51:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:35.000 You forgot the van in the chamber!

00:51:40.000 Eight.

00:51:41.000 By the way, there is no one in the chamber.

00:51:43.000 We checked this.

00:51:44.000 For people who are just tuning in now, we checked it, we cleared it.

00:51:46.000 This week is actually, if you haven't noticed the theme, 7 plus 1 Big Tech Legal Dramas.

00:51:53.000 Speaking of which, I had a quick question for Half Asian Lawyer Bill here.

00:51:57.000 I'm just sitting here listening and soaking it all in.

00:52:01.000 Has there been any widespread throttling and de-boosting, essentially, of liberal accounts?

00:52:07.000 Have a lot of liberals come forward?

00:52:09.000 Because all I've really heard—and this may be my own bias— He literally just said that while you were in the bathroom.

00:52:14.000 He literally just said no as far as he knows.

00:52:17.000 As far as he knows, because of the trigger words they use, like any page that has SJW, No, he said you haven't seen it in the media.

00:52:23.000 I thought I knew the answer.

00:52:24.000 I think the answer would be no, but I'm asking him, like, is there anything behind the scenes where, like, oh, it's both conservatives and liberals getting screwed?

00:52:29.000 It just seems like conservatives are getting screwed, and I just wanted it to be not my opinion, but fact.

00:52:33.000 You don't know yet. 0.96

00:52:33.000 Well, hold on. 0.96

00:52:34.000 That's why you have to sue.

00:52:37.000 Allegedly.

00:52:38.000 There's the word.

00:52:39.000 There's the keyword.

00:52:39.000 Allegedly, according to the eyewitness.

00:52:43.000 And the amount of documents that we have.

00:52:45.000 A phone photo of a computer screen, allegedly.

00:52:50.000 It is that the specific code was only seen on conservative pages.

00:52:53.000 And of those conservative pages, the ones that were memorable, Mike Cernovich has got an actual screenshot, which was not able to get a screenshot of Stevens, but affirmatively said, I saw the code on Stevens' page.

00:53:03.000 And then said, I've seen other pages that did not have the code.

00:53:09.000 So, is it possible that it is on other pages?

00:53:11.000 Absolutely.

00:53:12.000 Is that something that Facebook could come out and be like, hey guys, actually it's on everyone.

00:53:16.000 Hey look, we can show you the usage that we actually only did it if you uploaded a pre-recorded video to the live feed, which is the excuse they've given.

00:53:24.000 But they have not said any of that.

00:53:25.000 No, they haven't said any of that.

00:53:26.000 They've said that we violated the rule, which we may or may not have violated once.

00:53:30.000 I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar that we have never done that, and if we did, you don't get to throttle an entire page.

00:53:35.000 Something else I was going to say.

00:53:36.000 This is one thing too, and I really did enjoy Alex Jones on Joe Rogan's show, and they're both actually, they've both been on the show, I consider them both friends.

00:53:43.000 So entertaining.

00:53:43.000 It's great.

00:53:44.000 But there was a point where they were talking, and they were saying, is it true that on YouTube now they demonetize any videos that have the word truth or liberty in them?

00:53:51.000 And they were like, yes it is.

00:53:52.000 It's not.

00:53:53.000 So the lie is not necessary because the truth is bad enough.

00:53:58.000 We have videos up there like the truth about guns, the truth about... we have multiple videos that have the words the truth in them, and not all of them have been demonetized.

00:54:04.000 So is it true that conservative videos have been unfairly targeted?

00:54:08.000 Absolutely.

00:54:09.000 Have we seen a disproportionate amount of demonetization?

00:54:11.000 But you don't need to lie and say, Hey, I heard that any video that even has truth in the title is demonetized.

00:54:11.000 Yes.

00:54:17.000 It's not accurate and it doesn't help the legal cases going forward.

00:54:21.000 This is something you need to understand.

00:54:22.000 There's bitching on social media and then there's actually taking legal matters into your own hands and taking the proper steps and using the avenues that are available to you.

00:54:31.000 So just, my only point is, if you don't know, Don't lie, because then you toss the lies in with all of the truth.

00:54:35.000 All right, but these are the seven plus one big tech legal dramas, which really shouldn't be... They were missed.

00:54:43.000 It's almost like big tech's run out of ideas at the DMG sex parties.

00:54:46.000 Number seven, to copyright a mockingbird.

00:54:50.000 Yeah, that almost... That's not good use of an attorney's time.

00:54:59.000 Number six.

00:55:00.000 This is no surprise.

00:55:01.000 Your favorite.

00:55:02.000 My Cousin Dorsey.

00:55:03.000 Yeah, that's number six.

00:55:05.000 Seven plus one.

00:55:06.000 Big legal dramas.

00:55:07.000 I want to hear Pentelus read one.

00:55:09.000 Give us number five, Pentelus.

00:55:10.000 Number five is a few good men-hating Facebook engineers.

00:55:17.000 We have the best Photoshop team, and I've seen Stephen Colbert's Photoshops and Bill Maher's.

00:55:22.000 They're just absolutely terrible.

00:55:23.000 We really have great people, even Brendan.

00:55:28.000 I'll say this one because I'm already guilty of the hate speech.

00:55:30.000 Number four, and justice for all, tranny makeup tutorials. 0.97

00:55:34.000 Yeah, I don't think so. Man, I look good here. Let's have Bill, can you do number three?

00:55:43.000 Can you read it?

00:55:44.000 Absolutely. 1.00

00:55:44.000 Anatomy of a bullshit plane. 1.00

00:55:46.000 There you go. 1.00

00:55:47.000 Oh, look at that.

00:55:48.000 That is.

00:55:48.000 That's a legal term.

00:55:49.000 It's not a very iconic poster, that one.

00:55:52.000 No.

00:55:52.000 Number two.

00:55:53.000 Inherit the windbags.

00:55:54.000 Yeah, for those who don't know, that was the infamous monkey trial. 0.65

00:56:00.000 The actual monkey trial.

00:56:01.000 It was the evolution trial.

00:56:03.000 No one talks about how back then just a lot of the evolutionary theory was incredibly racist.

00:56:07.000 They just gloss over it.

00:56:09.000 Hold on a second.

00:56:11.000 You want to accuse the conservative Christians of being like, do you know what some of you believe there?

00:56:16.000 We don't want it.

00:56:17.000 We don't want it.

00:56:18.000 We can't even.

00:56:20.000 Hey, why don't you hit us a number two there, Pentelus? 0.99

00:56:22.000 Number two, an uncivil half-Asian. 1.00

00:56:22.000 All right. 1.00

00:56:25.000 Yes, an uncivil half-Asian. 1.00

00:56:30.000 By the way, we have a major conspiracy episode coming up, and it is about the graphic designer for all early 90s through early 2000s John Travolta films.

00:56:40.000 I'm pretty sure it was the same person.

00:56:42.000 I'm not saying Illuminati, but... Number two!

00:56:44.000 Can't forget number two.

00:56:46.000 Legally half-Asian.

00:56:49.000 Not so much a drama.

00:56:51.000 Look at his face!

00:56:53.000 That's good!

00:56:55.000 I love how amused, I don't know if I should be concerned that my legal representation is as amused as the part-time

00:57:01.000 Greek Montrealer.

00:57:02.000 We both have good taste in humor.

00:57:06.000 Number one, top big tech legal dramas is Presumed Guilty.

00:57:12.000 That's a striking similarity to Harrison Ford.

00:57:16.000 And the plus one this week, plus one top ten, top seven, top seven plus one, the plus one, the plus one, I keep saying the plus one, the plus one, the plus one, top big tech legal dramas, Aladdin.

00:57:26.000 There you go.

00:57:27.000 That has been this week's seven plus one.

00:57:30.000 A whole new world.

00:57:34.000 You forgot Sivan in the chamber!

00:57:36.000 Well thank you.

00:57:40.000 You forgot Stefan in the chamber!

00:57:42.000 Again.

00:57:44.000 Nine! 0.98

00:57:45.000 Did you hit it twice?

00:57:47.000 It just played itself again.

00:57:49.000 Is this the show?

00:57:50.000 Do I have a TriCaster with Parkinson's?

00:57:53.000 I have like 16 bullets.

00:57:55.000 Pretty confident it's just the style. 0.94

00:57:57.000 You're also very bad at... Wait, eight?

00:58:01.000 Yeah, 16, you're right.

00:58:02.000 That's right, 7 plus 1.

00:58:03.000 I was thinking 6 plus 1.

00:58:04.000 I was thinking the Walther PPK, the PPKS is 7 plus 1.

00:58:07.000 I don't think you were doing all the math.

00:58:09.000 No, I wasn't really doing the math. 0.96

00:58:10.000 Again, I've been having to do legal crap all week.

00:58:12.000 We are going to keep you updated.

00:58:13.000 So, if we were to, let's say, file a suit, would we be able to let people viewing right now know by sometime next week?

00:58:20.000 Yeah, we definitely will.

00:58:22.000 I mean, look, there's a lot of work that we put in, not just on the legal team, but working with you and your team to make sure that everything that we're doing, we're verifying it, we're checking against legal structure, we're looking about what the natural consequences are, and also weighing it against the fact that it's going to take time away from content and away from the audience.

00:58:38.000 So that's why we have to go out, do the right thing, both to the audience and from a legal standpoint, also being that You know, this isn't just about you.

00:58:48.000 It's about you and everyone else.

00:58:50.000 I mean, there have been times where both the left and the right have stood up and said, what are these social media companies doing with their shadow banning and their ridiculous rules and their subjective application of them?

00:58:59.000 Here, again, though, consistently, consistently, consistently, the only one name between Gizmodo and James O'Keefe's investigation is Steven Crowder.

00:59:08.000 It gives us more of a leg to stand on so that we can hopefully pave the way for the rest of you.

00:59:12.000 Because I don't want to do this for the rest of my life, and I'm hoping for someone else to come.

00:59:15.000 I want to see other conservative channels out there.

00:59:17.000 I want to see more.

00:59:18.000 I want to see you guys grow.

00:59:20.000 And to do that, listen, it's a multi-tiered approach.

00:59:22.000 Join up at Mug Club. 0.65

00:59:24.000 You help us fight this battle.

00:59:25.000 You help us have not only Bill Richmond, but hopefully, I don't know, clerks?

00:59:27.000 Are there clerks?

00:59:28.000 The associates.

00:59:30.000 I shut the clerk.

00:59:32.000 I shut the clerks and moral legal team and listen let me know if here's one thing a lot of people go sue Charles Hermes sue Twitter sue well it's at some point that does mean that there are going to be some days some weeks if we're in court or I have to take the stand where you're gonna miss out in the show and and that's a part of what Mug Club is and I I want to make sure that if we go down this road that you understand the magnitude of it, that you understand the severity of it, that you understand we are doing it for you.

00:59:57.000 And so I want to know if you're willing to sacrifice some content in the short term for us to be free from the shackles of corporate censorship long term.

01:00:06.000 Half-Asian lawyer Bill Richman, I look forward to the updates.

01:00:08.000 Thank you very much.

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01:00:11.000 He's one of the funniest men I know.

01:00:12.000 We'll be right back with The Close.

01:00:35.000 There's a lot of crime going on in Mexico, and the drug cartels are sort of infiltrating the suburbs, and MS-13 is all over Long Island, you know, with Oxycontin.

01:00:46.000 If you want to help, just stick with the calling the police and stuff like that.

01:00:50.000 I don't recommend actually getting involved in sort of, you know, citizens' arrests, and then sort of like, what are you guys doing there?

01:00:57.000 and I'm gonna tell the gobs and that doesn't turn out great.

01:01:02.000 It's a heartbreaking sight.

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01:01:28.000 Hello Lolliwoodcarnival viewers, Hopper here.

01:01:38.000 Don't forget that you can listen to the podcast on the go on iTunes and SoundCloud.

01:01:44.000 And the audio, you can download it. And you can listen at your leisure.

01:01:51.000 Yeah, I want to be clear here that I wasn't joking.

01:01:58.000 that I wasn't joking.

01:02:00.000 Like, there's people you don't like. 0.99

01:02:02.000 Oh, Trump's a Nazi and I hate these Proud Boys and these Patriots. 0.99

01:02:05.000 Yell at them. 1.00

01:02:06.000 Sure, do that. 0.59

01:02:07.000 But then when they're actual gangsters or actual criminals, maybe take a step back.

01:02:13.000 Yeah, let them sort of mind their own business and you should probably mind yours.

01:02:21.000 Tell my wife I love her.

01:02:23.000 And that picture wasn't me.

01:02:25.000 I'm sorry.

01:02:26.000 I'm sorry.

01:02:27.000 a an

01:02:49.000 That was someone who's drowning trying to do a lat flair, pose, but then gets taken

01:03:12.000 away by the current, but he's so narcissistic that he still keeps going, I gotta squeeze,

01:03:15.000 I gotta flex, gotta do the lat flair.

01:03:18.000 All kinds of lat flares.

01:03:19.000 All kinds of lat flares.

01:03:20.000 Have you seen how conservative the Hodgetwins, by the way, are on Instagram lately?

01:03:23.000 Oh yeah, yeah, extreme.

01:03:24.000 They've gone full bore.

01:03:25.000 So far.

01:03:26.000 Thank you so much on behalf of Eden Lawyer Bill Richmond, we will keep you updated, and let us know which sins you think are most egregious here.

01:03:31.000 It has nothing to do with the power of the mob, We've just, we've filed for motions for information before in the past.

01:03:38.000 We've tried to play nicely.

01:03:39.000 We've settled out of court.

01:03:40.000 It's gotten to the point where it's really impeded our ability to make a living.

01:03:43.000 Thank you so much to Pentelus Comedy.

01:03:45.000 Please go subscribe to his YouTube channel.

01:03:46.000 He does a podcast with Mike Ward, by the way.

01:03:48.000 On the New Cameo Network.

01:03:48.000 Yes, he does.

01:03:49.000 It's fun.

01:03:50.000 So something I do want to talk, and I've talked about this before, but I think it's more relevant than ever.

01:03:54.000 is this mantra that I hear a lot, and I think it's incred- I hate to use the word toxic now.

01:03:58.000 These terms have been co-opted.

01:04:00.000 But it really is toxic, the idea that failure is not an option.

01:04:03.000 You hear that a lot.

01:04:04.000 Failure is not an option.

01:04:05.000 Um, well, right now this is an example.

01:04:06.000 We're talking about this.

01:04:07.000 We're fighting Facebook, Disney, ABC, the Academy.

01:04:11.000 I don't even know if they are Disney, ABC.

01:04:13.000 Uh, internal battles, of course.

01:04:14.000 We have battles with- well-known battles with YouTube.

01:04:17.000 This has been going on for a long time, and it is I want to say sometimes it feels insurmountable, and I'll come back to this.

01:04:24.000 Sometimes, of course, I want to pack up and go home.

01:04:28.000 It has been a very, very trying week, and as you know, Hopper's been sick.

01:04:32.000 He's been doing very well.

01:04:32.000 Thank you so much for your comments.

01:04:34.000 I'm not at the top of my health game right now, but let me just tell you something.

01:04:38.000 Failure is absolutely an option.

01:04:41.000 I know that.

01:04:42.000 I've talked about this a lot, but I'd like to put a finer point on it.

01:04:46.000 A good example, recently I was watching television.

01:04:48.000 And I saw a commercial that mentioned Huntsville, Alabama, you know, Rocket City, USA, and the man in the commercial was talking about how failure, failure was not an option.

01:04:55.000 Now here's the thing, I understand where he's coming from, I'm not saying that rocket scientists, NASA, whoever this guy was, is being dishonest.

01:05:02.000 He's effectively trying to express the importance of the task, and the severity of the failure therein.

01:05:07.000 Okay, someone could die, something could blow up.

01:05:09.000 I appreciate the accountability being expressed in the sentiment, so do not get mad, don't say you're attacking NASA, that's not what I'm doing here.

01:05:16.000 But I disagree with the phrase.

01:05:17.000 And I think it's one we need to do away with.

01:05:19.000 I certainly would encourage you to do away with it in your personal life.

01:05:22.000 Mainly because I see so many people use it as a personal mantra.

01:05:25.000 Failure is not an option.

01:05:28.000 Kind of like an, I think I can.

01:05:29.000 I think I can.

01:05:30.000 I think I can.

01:05:31.000 But I've talked about this before.

01:05:33.000 My good friend Chello has talked about this before.

01:05:34.000 Failure is always an option.

01:05:37.000 In fact, it's often the easiest and most readily available option.

01:05:41.000 That doesn't mean that the consequences are easy or desirable, but the action of failing is always there, every step of the way.

01:05:49.000 It's more apparent to me now than ever.

01:05:51.000 As we talk about on this show, your guiding light above all else, I hate to sound cheesy, but it needs to be truth.

01:05:57.000 And so I don't think that ever denying reality is the most productive route.

01:06:01.000 I just don't believe it.

01:06:03.000 I know that it's been helpful for me, and I think it would behoove many of you to consider dropping the mindset for a more accurate one.

01:06:08.000 Failure is always an option.

01:06:09.000 Don't tell yourself it's not.

01:06:11.000 If you tell yourself it's not, you're effectively denying this huge, this ribbon, this milky way, this cosmic belt of reality.

01:06:19.000 Sometimes it's the biggest cosmic belt of reality in your path, certainly the most looming.

01:06:24.000 Let me give you an example.

01:06:25.000 Let's say you're driving down a freeway.

01:06:27.000 There's a major roadblock, let's say a five-car pileup.

01:06:30.000 Does it help you to say, there's no pileup, it's not even on the table?

01:06:34.000 Or is it more productive to see the pileup, to acknowledge it, and to refuse to allow it to impede your progress?

01:06:40.000 See, the former mindset, that of telling yourself that there is no roadblock, failure's not an option, leads to what?

01:06:46.000 What does it lead to?

01:06:47.000 Riding straight into that roadblock.

01:06:49.000 The latter, acknowledging it, seeing the roadblock, including this data, incorporating the information into your reality, largely because it is reality, I'll come back to that in a second, living your truth, would be more productive, it would lead to a solution.

01:07:02.000 You know it's there, but you don't want to end up in that roadblock, so you're more likely to Take a different route!

01:07:08.000 To recalibrate!

01:07:09.000 To succeed!

01:07:10.000 Why do we tell ourselves this, that failure is not an option?

01:07:13.000 Why do we consistently lie to ourselves?

01:07:15.000 And why has it been accepted as though it's... And I see it in the Christian community as well as this sort of self-help guru community.

01:07:22.000 Which is more productive?

01:07:23.000 Okay, let's just look at this from a pragmatic point of view.

01:07:26.000 The failure is not an option mantra.

01:07:29.000 Or, let's just say, let's... we switched it to failure is disallowable.

01:07:34.000 I'd like to see more people saying failure is disallowable as opposed to lying to themselves saying that failure is not an option.

01:07:40.000 It may sound trivial, but one is a soundbite and one is a way of life.

01:07:44.000 One is a mantra that sounds good on daytime talk shows, that sells self-help books.

01:07:48.000 The other is a very non-sexy but necessary mindset to deal with your own shortcomings.

01:07:54.000 Most importantly, one is dishonest and one is truthful.

01:07:58.000 I'd say it's honestly, it's even more severe than that.

01:08:02.000 In that one is dishonest in arguably the most destructive way possible.

01:08:06.000 And then it's the kind of dishonesty in which you lie to yourself.

01:08:10.000 But when you're married, failure is not an option.

01:08:12.000 In your work, failure's not an option.

01:08:12.000 Failure's not an option.

01:08:14.000 Failure's not an option.

01:08:14.000 In your physical training, failure's not an option.

01:08:16.000 Failure's not an option.

01:08:17.000 Only to find yourself at some point when you've been living with this mantra, I don't know, a broken marriage, possibly a divorce, losing your job, or in the most literal sense, physical harm, finding yourself under a barbell.

01:08:28.000 By the way, I don't know what's happened with my wrist.

01:08:30.000 It's not the power glove with the boy from Boy Meets World, the brother, the old Fred Savage.

01:08:35.000 Wizard.

01:08:36.000 Wizard, that's what it is.

01:08:37.000 It's so bad.

01:08:38.000 And by the way, that's why I believe that physical training is so important.

01:08:40.000 A lot of people say, oh, you're a meathead.

01:08:42.000 Sometimes experiencing the most literal strain possible tells you a lot about yourself, a lot about your place in this world and how you interact with it.

01:08:42.000 No.

01:08:49.000 So do me a favor.

01:08:50.000 We do this every week and often you tweet me or you send me messages and it ends up on the Mug Club Life Advice segment.

01:08:56.000 Do me a favor, run this experiment.

01:08:58.000 Find out what your maximal strength is.

01:09:01.000 How much you can squat, deadlift, hell, I don't care.

01:09:03.000 How many pull-ups you can do, okay?

01:09:05.000 This is just an experiment.

01:09:06.000 I'm not saying that how many pull-ups you can do determines your marital quality.

01:09:11.000 But just find something that measures your maximal strength.

01:09:15.000 Write it down, okay?

01:09:16.000 Perform it once.

01:09:17.000 Now, I want you to add 15%.

01:09:21.000 Doesn't seem like a ton, right?

01:09:23.000 Tell yourself failure's not an option.

01:09:25.000 Repeat it as many times as necessary.

01:09:27.000 Listen to your amp-up music.

01:09:29.000 Get Slayer going.

01:09:30.000 I don't know what you listen to nowadays.

01:09:31.000 I don't know if Linkin Park is still a thing.

01:09:32.000 That's what pissed me off in high school.

01:09:34.000 Get yourself to peak by any means possible and try it.

01:09:38.000 Pause this right now.

01:09:39.000 Add 15%.

01:09:39.000 Try it.

01:09:41.000 Did you succeed?

01:09:43.000 See, that's why the mantra of failure is not an option is so harmful.

01:09:47.000 Because amidst all of this lying to yourself, All the while, these roadblocks keep piling up.

01:09:53.000 You will come to that roadblock.

01:09:55.000 You will come to that pileup.

01:09:56.000 It's there.

01:09:57.000 It's always there.

01:09:59.000 But if you acknowledge it, if you're honest with yourself, you can prepare for it.

01:10:04.000 And you can choose, not always, but often, to disallow failure.

01:10:08.000 So I want you to take that same experiment, okay?

01:10:10.000 Find out your maximal strength.

01:10:11.000 Could be a squat, could be even a number of pull-ups.

01:10:11.000 Same as before.

01:10:13.000 It just has to be consistent with what you did before.

01:10:15.000 Now, instead of performing it and then adding 15% and amping yourself up with failure is not an option, I want you to take a different tack.

01:10:22.000 I want you to acknowledge that that is your limitation.

01:10:25.000 That going past it will lead to failure.

01:10:27.000 Keep that in the back of your mind.

01:10:29.000 But don't reach it.

01:10:30.000 Don't max out.

01:10:31.000 And here's what I want you to do.

01:10:33.000 I want you to not perform to failure, but to chart a course to improve it.

01:10:37.000 For example, let's say your maximum squat is 300 pounds.

01:10:40.000 Consistently do less.

01:10:41.000 Call it 275 pounds.

01:10:43.000 But gradually add, every time you go into the gym, 5 pounds.

01:10:46.000 Work hard!

01:10:47.000 Work hard!

01:10:48.000 Work diligently, but not to failure.

01:10:50.000 If you can do 15 pull-ups, only do 12 or 13.

01:10:53.000 But consistently.

01:10:54.000 And add one rep.

01:10:55.000 Write it down.

01:10:56.000 And then, I want you to come back and note when you surpass your previous limit.

01:11:01.000 I guarantee you, this is a promise, okay?

01:11:04.000 Not an empty promise.

01:11:04.000 I guarantee you that using that method, you will surpass it.

01:11:09.000 And you'll probably be surprised by how quickly it happens.

01:11:11.000 Now, this experiment here, it's not about lifting weights.

01:11:14.000 is to show you that one way of doing things, the failure is not an option, doesn't work.

01:11:18.000 You can try and move that weight, shove and heave and strain all you want, you will be no closer, 0% closer to achieving growth than you were when you started.

01:11:25.000 The other, while not sexy, very workmanlike, it's not a show horse, it's a Clydesdale, will lead to breakthrough.

01:11:33.000 The breakthrough you were seeking in the first place.

01:11:34.000 It's a great irony in life that these triumphant, these grandiose ways that we try to achieve our breakthroughs, they're usually the ones that keep us from achieving them.

01:11:43.000 Because it's the preparation that matters.

01:11:45.000 It's the in-betweens, like I've talked about.

01:11:46.000 It's the unsexy measures we take when no one is watching.

01:11:50.000 When the excitement's worn off and failure is always an option in the back of our mind.

01:11:55.000 See, one, the failure is not an option is effectively the false mantra of living your truth.

01:12:01.000 That's why I think I hate it so much.

01:12:02.000 Whereas the decision to acknowledge failure as an option, but disallowing it to determine your long-term circumstances is the equivalent to living in the truth.

01:12:12.000 I don't think there's anything sillier than saying I'm speaking my truth. 1.00

01:12:16.000 That's a hedge to say, you could be a f***ing liar. 1.00

01:12:19.000 That's what you could be saying. 0.99

01:12:20.000 Sorry, Corridor Blackguard has to hit the censor button.

01:12:23.000 I'm a little pissed off this week.

01:12:24.000 I don't really care.

01:12:25.000 I've let it fly.

01:12:26.000 I'll recalibrate next week, because I realize failure with my vocabulary is an option.

01:12:26.000 I'll reset.

01:12:30.000 But what does living your truth mean, if you're not living in the truth?

01:12:34.000 There is absolute truth, and sometimes your truth and the truth are incongruent.

01:12:38.000 As a matter of fact, I'd wager more often than not, because often the truth is really uncomfortable.

01:12:44.000 But guess what?

01:12:44.000 The truth is always there.

01:12:45.000 It's always there, and if your truth isn't the truth, it's going to hit you like a brick in the face.

01:12:50.000 Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow.

01:12:51.000 Sooner or later, the truth is coming from you.

01:12:56.000 Did I say from you or for you?

01:12:57.000 I don't care.

01:12:59.000 Live life without limits!

01:13:00.000 That's another bumper sticker that I saw.

01:13:01.000 I'm trying to go on a course.

01:13:02.000 Live life without limits!

01:13:03.000 Someone has this bumper sticker showing that they were climbing on a summit.

01:13:06.000 What the hell does that mean?

01:13:07.000 What does that mean?

01:13:08.000 The truth is you have limits!

01:13:11.000 I'm a rock!

01:13:12.000 No! 0.68

01:13:13.000 You're a human.

01:13:13.000 And you're breakable.

01:13:14.000 We all are.

01:13:16.000 Where people lie to themselves when they're sick.

01:13:17.000 How many times do you know these people? 0.99

01:13:18.000 The positive speaking bullcrap.

01:13:20.000 I understand you don't want to be a negative Nancy. 0.97

01:13:21.000 But you're like, no!

01:13:24.000 I'm not sick!

01:13:25.000 I don't get sick!

01:13:26.000 I'm going to speak over myself!

01:13:28.000 I'm not sick!

01:13:28.000 And they cough up a lung.

01:13:30.000 Listen, you can't lift that weight.

01:13:32.000 At some point in your life, you're going to die. 1.00

01:13:35.000 You are sick. 1.00

01:13:36.000 Your marriage has problems. 1.00

01:13:38.000 You're dropping the ball at certain aspects of your job, or as a father, or as a husband.

01:13:42.000 You've made promises to yourself that you haven't kept.

01:13:45.000 That's reality.

01:13:46.000 And to tell yourself that failure is not an option is to consistently live in a state of denying reality.

01:13:52.000 It's delusional by definition.

01:13:54.000 Right now, to give you an idea, to tie this back into us, and I don't want this to just be about me, we were hit with four copyright claims in the same day, on the same show, to try and suppress it.

01:14:04.000 Three have been defeated.

01:14:06.000 They're just biding their time on the fourth, hoping that the Oscars will no longer be relevant, and that you don't watch it when it's available.

01:14:12.000 Please prove them wrong.

01:14:13.000 We're currently preparing for an epic legal war with Facebook.

01:14:16.000 One that will test the integrity and fortitude, not only of myself, but everyone on this team.

01:14:20.000 Also you.

01:14:21.000 How long will you stick it out?

01:14:22.000 How long will you support us?

01:14:24.000 This week we had to miss three shows to fight these battles.

01:14:27.000 Believe me, that wasn't fun for us.

01:14:28.000 There are going to be a few more weeks like that, if this goes to court.

01:14:32.000 How long are you in?

01:14:33.000 When the dust has settled, the excitement of the initial war, the battle cry has died out, when we're in the trenches, rained on, covered in dirt, waiting.

01:14:41.000 Are you still there?

01:14:42.000 Because failure is always an option!

01:14:44.000 I have to be honest with myself, right now, failure is the most easy, readily available option.

01:14:51.000 I'm not a rock, I'm not a man without limits, I'm a very limited man who is fallible and breakable.

01:14:58.000 It'd be a lot easier to fail right now, because rather than continuing, rather than reinvesting and creating for the unheard majority of Americans, you, the international fans out there, I know we have a lot of Canadian Greek Orthodox, Pantelis just told me this, I could collect my marbles that I've gained thus far right now and go home.

01:15:14.000 Even more, I'm at a point right now where I know that failure of this program, of this movement, of your movement right now, is a much more easy option today than it will be once we're in this fight.

01:15:25.000 Because once we're in this fight, we can't unring that bell.

01:15:27.000 Unless we win, I can't recoup all the resources, finances, creative energy, and just life energy that's been invested into it.

01:15:34.000 Failure is a much more easy option for me to choose today than it would be tomorrow, or the next day, or the next, and I know that, and I struggle with it.

01:15:44.000 I could lie to you, I struggle with it all the time.

01:15:46.000 There are times where I come really close to calling it and packing it in.

01:15:51.000 To deny that, to lie to myself, and to lie to you about it for the sake of some kind of inspirational soundbite would not only be dishonest, it would cloud my judgment to the decisions that I have to make for all of us moving forward.

01:16:04.000 It would also belittle, by the way, the magnitude of what you've done for me.

01:16:07.000 You, the listener, you're for us.

01:16:09.000 The truth is that you've helped us build something so impactful, so important to such a multitude of people that the walls are closing in, tempting us by providing the option of failure.

01:16:18.000 That's where we are right now.

01:16:20.000 Failure would be a relief.

01:16:24.000 Failure is an option, I'm not gonna lie to you.

01:16:25.000 I go a step further and say not only an option, it's a very possible outcome.

01:16:30.000 That's why it's at the front of my mind.

01:16:31.000 I want it to be at the front of yours.

01:16:33.000 Because then we're all on the same page knowing that right now, at this moment in history, we all have a decision to make.

01:16:39.000 We can choose failure right now.

01:16:41.000 We can choose easy right now.

01:16:43.000 And it's available.

01:16:44.000 It's right there.

01:16:45.000 We can choose relief.

01:16:46.000 We can choose peace through failure right now.

01:16:48.000 Or we can choose to go through the hard door.

01:16:51.000 And this may not be as inspirational, it may not sell as many books, but I can promise you this, so long as you, all of you watching, listening, streaming, choose to go through those hard doorways, those thresholds, meaning many, doorway after doorway after doorway, so long as you keep choosing to do that with us, I promise you so will I. You tell me, are you in?

01:17:13.000 Comment, let me know.

01:17:14.000 If you're in, I am. 1.00

01:17:21.000 To the rest of you, fill your hand, you son of a b****. 1.00

01:17:24.000 For everyone else, there's Mug Club. 0.99

01:17:26.000 See you next week.

Louder with Crowder - March 01, 2019

#439 LEGAL UPDATE: TIME TO SUE!! | Bill Richmond and James O'Keefe Guest | Louder With Crowder

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