Louder with Crowder - #480 THE CONSERVATIVE DEPLATFORMING PURGE! | Dan Crenshaw Guests | Louder with Crowder

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00:00:04.000 and hopper Are you ready kid?

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00:00:16.000 I can't hear you!

00:00:17.000 I can't hear you at all!

00:00:21.000 Who lives in a swamp right under the sea?

00:00:23.000 My name's Crowder!

00:00:25.000 Who sniffs your aunt's head and won't let her flee? 0.99

00:00:27.000 My name's Chip!

00:00:29.000 Who touches your mom and gropes all the kids? 1.00

00:00:33.000 Be sure not to tell your dad what I did!

00:00:35.000 Biden-Grebin! 0.99

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00:00:48.000 You're a strange animal! 0.99

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00:01:23.000 You're a strange animal! 0.99

00:01:25.000 I come to follow! 0.98

00:01:29.000 I'm a speedy dis- That's called the creepy man at Gerald's actual wedding.

00:01:37.000 He danced like this.

00:01:39.000 And we locked eyes and he looked across the floor and he was mad because I think he saw me, you know, mocking him naturally to my wife.

00:01:43.000 And he just was doing this, but he did this.

00:01:48.000 Like, gave it a little bit more vigor.

00:01:50.000 Gave it a positive anger.

00:01:52.000 Hey, uh, we have Dan Crenshaw on the show today.

00:01:54.000 My half-Asian lawyer, Bill Richman, is here in third chair.

00:01:56.000 Thank you very much.

00:01:57.000 Even though you have a screaming baby, I know he kept you up all night.

00:01:59.000 Yes, he did.

00:02:00.000 Little Asian baby. 0.94

00:02:01.000 You can still carry this show with one hand tied behind his back.

00:02:05.000 Mainly because he has very short arms.

00:02:06.000 Quarter black hair.

00:02:07.000 Show me your quarter hood.

00:02:08.000 And Gene Morgan Jr., what's the wine of the day?

00:02:08.000 Boom!

00:02:08.000 What's up?

00:02:10.000 That was your hood pass?

00:02:11.000 Boom? 0.95

00:02:11.000 What's the wine of the day? 0.95

00:02:12.000 Don't, don't, don't ask.

00:02:13.000 You missed your chance.

00:02:14.000 Nobody cares anymore.

00:02:15.000 I don't get to sell product and I don't pay.

00:02:17.000 We're going to have Dan Crenshaw on.

00:02:17.000 Hey, question of the day.

00:02:18.000 We'll be talking about the recent sort of de-platforming apocalypse, I guess.

00:02:23.000 We wanted to talk about the recent transgender vice powerlifting video, but it'll still be there Monday.

00:02:27.000 So question for you, question... It's still there.

00:02:30.000 Has the recent de-platformer that's occurred to a lot of people on Facebook and Instagram, has it been jarring or do you, like me, worry that it might just become white noise now?

00:02:38.000 And how close are any of you to deleting?

00:02:42.000 I see what you did there.

00:02:43.000 You can do it because you're yellow-ish. 1.00

00:02:45.000 Ouch.

00:02:46.000 How do you get close to deleting your social media accounts, and which platform do you think is most likely to go first?

00:02:50.000 We're getting an increasing number of emails about that.

00:02:53.000 Facebook.

00:02:54.000 Yeah, Facebook.

00:02:54.000 That's because your grandmother's on Facebook.

00:02:57.000 Facebook has gotten so old.

00:02:57.000 Really?

00:02:58.000 Remember when you used to have a college address?

00:03:00.000 It was like Myspace.

00:03:00.000 Full of boomers.

00:03:02.000 Myspace was for whores. 1.00

00:03:04.000 Zynga was for Asians, and Facebook was for elite college students. 1.00

00:03:08.000 There you go.

00:03:09.000 Not anymore.

00:03:09.000 You've lost your way, Facebook.

00:03:11.000 You need to be yourself.

00:03:12.000 When my mom's on Facebook, you know it's gotten old.

00:03:15.000 When you're on Facebook, you know it's gotten old.

00:03:16.000 Starting us off today... I'm not old.

00:03:18.000 Your mom's on me.

00:03:19.000 Jessica Chastain.

00:03:20.000 Do I pronounce that correctly?

00:03:20.000 Whoa!

00:03:21.000 Is it Chastain in French?

00:03:22.000 Yes, it's Chastain.

00:03:23.000 Jessica Chastain.

00:03:23.000 And what's the next player's name?

00:03:24.000 Ava Duvernay?

00:03:25.000 I don't even know who she is.

00:03:26.000 Ava?

00:03:26.000 Sure, Ava.

00:03:27.000 Anyways, they chastised Game of Thrones, see what I did there, for racial insensitivity.

00:03:31.000 This comes from the inside.

00:03:32.000 Both influential women of Hollywood tweeted following Sunday's episode in which the show's only named character, who was a woman of color, was killed.

00:03:41.000 Spoiler alert, I should have said that first.

00:03:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:44.000 I should note they weren't really upset about the killing as much as they thought it was racially insensitive the way

00:03:50.000 it was performed.

00:03:51.000 🎵 🎵

00:04:04.000 I could see how it registers a little tone deaf.

00:04:08.000 I get it.

00:04:09.000 A little insensitive there.

00:04:10.000 Okay, so the puck used to be in this zone, right?

00:04:13.000 Alright, we want women in things. 1.00

00:04:14.000 Okay, we need gay people in things. 0.91

00:04:16.000 Now we need people of color in things. 0.97

00:04:17.000 Now we need gay people of color that are women in things. 1.00

00:04:20.000 And now they must survive until the end of every episode of the movie? 0.84

00:04:23.000 Yeah, I was going to say!

00:04:24.000 There are only two episodes left!

00:04:27.000 No one was complaining about the white guys that died.

00:04:28.000 Yes, there's been hundreds and hundreds of white guys dying.

00:04:30.000 I mean, it's a miracle that she made it this far.

00:04:32.000 I'm pretty sure that the last episode is just going to be someone traveling in a DeLorean nuking the whole place.

00:04:36.000 No one's going to make it past the ending.

00:04:38.000 I don't understand here.

00:04:39.000 Why are you pissed?

00:04:41.000 Whatever.

00:04:42.000 You can have it.

00:04:43.000 You still like the show.

00:04:44.000 You guys hear about the recent thing with Captain Marvel about how Brie Larson was saying

00:04:47.000 well, you know, we want to be inclusive and have other women sign the petition. 1.00

00:04:51.000 And then all of a sudden it turned into, well, actually, Brie Larson, you shouldn't be it.

00:04:54.000 We don't have you anymore, actually.

00:04:55.000 Who's more diverse than you should play this role.

00:04:58.000 And it's like, well, it never ends, right?

00:04:59.000 I mean, soon you have women of color that are transgender that have arms, and then you need the ones without the arms, then without the fingers. 0.99

00:05:06.000 I mean, like, what?

00:05:07.000 I mean, where does it end?

00:05:08.000 They just think they're appeasing crocodiles.

00:05:10.000 It's like Piranha Night 3D with, you know, chicks with ***. 0.93

00:05:13.000 Next we have Nobody wants to see that.

00:05:15.000 This transi, and I'm saying that because since everyone's being deplatformed, we can get around it by adding transi.

00:05:21.000 Make it a thing.

00:05:23.000 This transi is making the case that Venezuela, we just saw this video and I promised you it's real, Venezuela more democratic, better off in the United States.

00:05:30.000 Here's a clip.

00:05:31.000 There is so much that we could learn in the United States from what they've done in Venezuela.

00:05:36.000 Yes.

00:05:38.000 Correct!

00:05:39.000 TransientQuestion at LavenderNRed on the Twitter biography refers to him, herself, Zirself as a transgender autistic revolutionary.

00:05:50.000 I thought autism meant you were a genius.

00:05:54.000 What does autism even mean anymore?

00:05:57.000 It's become an incredibly broad umbrella.

00:06:02.000 Perfect.

00:06:03.000 I see this program has commenced as planned, and they have yet to notice me.

00:06:08.000 But you must understand that for me, the shadows are not a place from which to emerge, but a place in which to dwell.

00:06:16.000 For it is in the shadows that I can accomplish my greatest work, and with time, exert my greatest authority.

00:06:26.000 So I had one autistic, when I was a kid, in grade school, we had one autistic, he was Chinese, his name was Do we have to bleep that?

00:06:33.000 Can I just, I'll say Wei Fung. 0.64

00:06:34.000 Does that help me?

00:06:35.000 Because autistic, and it seems like there's a range from genius, virtuoso, to actually mentally retarded. 0.99

00:06:41.000 This kid should have been called mentally retarded. 1.00

00:06:42.000 He'd walk around like, and he would talk about comic books. 0.99

00:06:44.000 And I would get in trouble.

00:06:46.000 This is a true story.

00:06:47.000 So we were in the middle of our final exam, you know, close to summer, and we're doing a math exam, and Wei Fung gets out from his desk, with incredible purpose, by the way.

00:06:57.000 Gets out from his desk, stands up in the middle of the exam, AHHHH!

00:07:02.000 HA HA HA!

00:07:05.000 And I'm sitting in my chair about having a heart attack, laughing.

00:07:08.000 Like, I just think it's just hysterical.

00:07:10.000 And they kicked me out.

00:07:11.000 They kicked you out?

00:07:12.000 I'm sitting there going, how do you kick me out for this?

00:07:14.000 Did they kick him out as well? 0.92

00:07:15.000 No, they didn't kick him out because he was retarded. 0.96

00:07:16.000 For an appreciative laugh at a power move like that, I mean.

00:07:18.000 And I knew exactly what he was doing.

00:07:19.000 I mean, I chew that in court all the time.

00:07:21.000 He was obsessed with video games.

00:07:23.000 And I knew he was doing the Shang Tsung, holding the glowing head. 0.74

00:07:26.000 And I knew it.

00:07:26.000 And I'm just sitting there laughing.

00:07:27.000 And they kicked me out.

00:07:29.000 This kid also, by the way, I've told this story before. 0.99

00:07:30.000 He punched me in the balls. 0.96

00:07:32.000 It's the one time I cried in school, in grade school. 0.98

00:07:34.000 We were learning the Fosbury Flop where you had to line up and run and jump over the high jump bar.

00:07:39.000 Is that what you call it?

00:07:40.000 You know, Fosbury Flop is where you jump back and fall on your back.

00:07:40.000 High jump?

00:07:43.000 So we'd have two lines in gym class. 0.73

00:07:44.000 I remember the name was Mr. Boner.

00:07:46.000 We called him Mr. Boner because we were incredibly childish.

00:07:50.000 I still thought of it.

00:07:51.000 I'm standing in line and I realize that this one kid is autistic.

00:07:54.000 They just called him autistic.

00:07:55.000 That's all we knew back then.

00:07:57.000 He doesn't realize that we're lining up to wait our turn and run and jump over the mat.

00:08:00.000 He just jumps and right on his shoulders, right in the hardwood floor, and starts freaking out.

00:08:05.000 Are you serious?

00:08:06.000 I'm like, what the f***, are you okay? 1.00

00:08:07.000 And he just started repeating, kick your ass, kick your ass, and punched me in the balls as hard as he could. 1.00

00:08:13.000 This is a true story! 1.00

00:08:15.000 And then now we're just like, now you just have some kid who's very smart and, you know, has to wear earplugs when he sleeps and we call them autistic.

00:08:21.000 Does someone know?

00:08:22.000 Where's the line?

00:08:23.000 Where is the line?

00:08:24.000 Genuinely.

00:08:24.000 It's getting broad.

00:08:25.000 I mean, there are lines.

00:08:27.000 It's just some folks choose to ignore them and exploit the labels for whatever they want to do.

00:08:30.000 I mean, they take something that is scientific and legitimate.

00:08:33.000 And certainly the boundaries are, you know, they have to be adjusted at times as more information comes.

00:08:38.000 There's different variants of different things.

00:08:40.000 But to be able to say wherever you want and whatever you think you are is just going to somehow be on the continuum of the spectrum just doesn't make any sense.

00:08:48.000 It's a whole big spectrum.

00:08:49.000 The ghetto lawyer just came out of him. 0.86

00:08:50.000 Wherever you is, you're live when you is on the continuum as it relates to the spectrum, which really relates to the panel.

00:09:03.000 You know how it is, though, right?

00:09:04.000 You know how- No!

00:09:05.000 They're picking up what I'm laying down!

00:09:07.000 That's because you do not understand the past- $4.50?

00:09:07.000 That's $4.50 an hour.

00:09:09.000 What am I, cheap?

00:09:11.000 You do not understand the past tenth of what I am laying down.

00:09:14.000 Finally, uh, and it must be hard for you to find the different- Honestly, like, autistic in Asian. 1.00

00:09:19.000 Because some of those kids, they're very socially awkward, and they're very good at things.

00:09:23.000 I would just say, well, autistic. 0.99

00:09:24.000 He just has a Chinese mom.

00:09:26.000 Sorry!

00:09:27.000 Could have fooled me.

00:09:27.000 True.

00:09:28.000 All day.

00:09:29.000 And banned.

00:09:30.000 Anyway, in other news, before we move on to social media, in 2020 news, Pete Buttigieg says that... I can't not laugh.

00:09:37.000 This week he said, if God belonged to a political party, it wouldn't be the Republicans.

00:09:41.000 This comes from Business Insider.

00:09:42.000 Of course, this was immediately after saying, it's important that we stop seeing religion used as a kind of cudgel.

00:09:48.000 Perfect word for him to use.

00:09:49.000 So God would not be Republican.

00:09:51.000 When reached for comment, however, Representative Satan said he was away on business.

00:09:55.000 So that was pretty... Oh my gosh. 0.99

00:09:56.000 When reached later for comment, he was too busy having sex with Pete Buttgig. 0.99

00:10:00.000 So here's to you! 0.98

00:10:02.000 Got stuff to do.

00:10:03.000 I think this is a little bit odd, right?

00:10:04.000 He claims to be, what is it, an orthodox, uh, it's not orthodox, he's a Christian.

00:10:08.000 Not orthodox.

00:10:08.000 Not orthodox, sorry, it's the wrong word, sorry.

00:10:10.000 He claims to be a Christian, and then he questions Mike Pence's belief in scripture.

00:10:14.000 He says, maybe Mike Pence doesn't believe in scripture now anymore, and I'm like, Sir?

00:10:18.000 Would you like to talk about homosexuality and the potential verses that could be in the Bible that affect that?

00:10:22.000 You're telling me that because you've got a bad guy, your word's bad guy in office, that Mike Pence doesn't believe the Bible anymore and your lifestyle probably doesn't?

00:10:30.000 Oh, it's Episcopalian! 1.00

00:10:30.000 Stop using religion to divide because you clearly have not read the Bible and don't know anything. 1.00

00:10:37.000 This week...

00:10:38.000 No, that's the point.

00:10:39.000 They say, don't use it to divide, and then they just say, you don't know any.

00:10:41.000 He just did!

00:10:42.000 Yes!

00:10:42.000 Yes, I know!

00:10:43.000 Is it lost?

00:10:44.000 Is it lost?

00:10:45.000 Was that lost on people?

00:10:46.000 That's the joke.

00:10:47.000 OK.

00:10:47.000 All right, Gerald.

00:10:48.000 All right, Bill, help him out here a little bit.

00:10:50.000 Unhelpable.

00:10:51.000 OK.

00:10:52.000 The week's trivia contest winner, by the way, is Sam Moore at Samtastic 300 for correctly identifying that the plus-size model test holiday's blood type was pudding.

00:11:00.000 So you'll be getting a free t-shirt and DNA scraping of half-Asian lawyer Bill Richmond in the mail. 0.76

00:11:04.000 Still funny, by the way.

00:11:06.000 So, we're going to talk about, and I was super glad that half-Asian lawyer Bill Richmond was here, and I can never tell, you know, he has a newborn, if he's tired, if it's just Asian face. 0.82

00:11:14.000 Mm-hmm.

00:11:15.000 Because you never get the bags under your eyes.

00:11:17.000 No, they're just there all the time.

00:11:19.000 No, they're not bags.

00:11:20.000 Your eyes are very tight.

00:11:21.000 You look like you've always slept well, but then you also look like you're always just a little bit irritated.

00:11:25.000 Yeah, no, that's actually, that's my life.

00:11:27.000 That probably works for you.

00:11:28.000 That's the lawyer part, right?

00:11:29.000 I have my features of hardened.

00:11:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:31.000 He is a court.

00:11:32.000 I just wanted to make that awkward for a few seconds.

00:11:37.000 I just wanted to see where we went with it.

00:11:40.000 That's how bad I felt.

00:11:41.000 That's how badly I felt when you just earlier stepped on and restated my position.

00:11:46.000 You're like, that's your position.

00:11:47.000 That's my position too.

00:11:48.000 All right.

00:11:48.000 Okay.

00:11:49.000 I hope your new wife, husband is watching.

00:11:51.000 Okay.

00:11:51.000 So over the past week, we've seen another purge, obviously.

00:11:54.000 Not only have we seen this of conservatives, but we have seen rejoicing from the left.

00:12:01.000 I'm delighted to see this.

00:12:02.000 They're taking out the trash.

00:12:04.000 These awful people, in many cases, encouraging violence, sanctioning violence.

00:12:08.000 Look, you have no right to speak on someone else's platform.

00:12:12.000 Let Milo Yiannopoulos go to GeoCities or MySpace or something.

00:12:16.000 He can't go on Facebook.

00:12:18.000 Facebook, and I think I agree a lot.

00:12:19.000 The man's like an anti-Semitic cartoon.

00:12:21.000 It's a company, right?

00:12:23.000 We don't like regulation, then it should regulate itself.

00:12:26.000 I feel like that first guy who was talking, Mr. Honey, Ilhan Omar's watching it like, I'm in!

00:12:29.000 Come on! 0.61

00:12:32.000 It was too soft to lay up.

00:12:33.000 We should just do this program like cable news.

00:12:35.000 It would be so much easier.

00:12:36.000 There'd be no prep.

00:12:37.000 Hey, what do you think, sir?

00:12:38.000 Outrage!

00:12:39.000 And I'm sounding slightly like Woody Allen crossed with the nutty professor from The Simpsons, Milo Yiannopoulos.

00:12:46.000 I want to make sure that we're I was agreeing.

00:12:48.000 I think it's incredibly important to set the tone because we're not making that argument.

00:12:50.000 This is not a freedom of speech issue, okay?

00:12:53.000 So before people yell private company, I want you to hear what we're about to discuss.

00:12:58.000 And let's go over the new rules as to what is and isn't allowed.

00:13:01.000 Yeah, you were about to say something there.

00:13:02.000 No, no, no, I was agreeing.

00:13:04.000 I think it's incredibly important to set the tone because we're not making that argument.

00:13:07.000 And that's what everybody is going to say, is that you're making a free speech argument

00:13:10.000 in the wrong case.

00:13:11.000 So just as important as kind of understanding why and which conservatives are banned is

00:13:16.000 looking at the behavior that's routinely accepted from the left.

00:13:20.000 So there have been clear terms of service violations from the left.

00:13:23.000 Things like doxxing, things like threatening people, things like inciting people to violence with no consequences.

00:13:29.000 I want to be really clear, I don't want any preferential treatment.

00:13:32.000 I don't think any, well I do think some conservatives do, and we'll have to get to that in a second.

00:13:36.000 I just want to know the rules.

00:13:37.000 And I think that's an important distinction that people need to make.

00:13:39.000 It's either dishonest business practices or not knowing where they line up and not applying the law equally.

00:13:44.000 Well, I think even just the point in our own experience has been the company is often unclear left-hand, right-hand about what the rules are.

00:13:51.000 Even day-to-day, even kind of handling the same videos being handled differently in different times by different people means that there's a level of subjectivity that means that when the company's out there selling its platform as A, in reality it's B. And that is where you get to the heart of a fraud that Yeah, there's an exchange of services here.

00:14:19.000 Like you said, the data is one of the big things that drives the revenue, obviously, of any of these companies.

00:14:24.000 Having access to consumers and understanding their habits, being able to crunch that data.

00:14:28.000 You've given your part, and now they're saying, no, you can't be on this platform anymore because of rules that we can't even tell you how to enforce.

00:14:34.000 And they clearly don't honor their own rules.

00:14:36.000 So just in case you think I'm making this up, Democratic State Representative, we'll talk with Dan Crenshaw about this in a second.

00:14:41.000 Brian Sims, did you guys see this, where he videotaped himself?

00:14:44.000 I don't know if videotape is a term anymore.

00:14:45.000 People are like, what does that mean, videotape?

00:14:47.000 You mean selfie?

00:14:48.000 Come on, Grandpa, think video.

00:14:50.000 We used to use the term videotape.

00:14:51.000 I just realized how dated that was.

00:14:53.000 You're an old man, Crowder. 1.00

00:14:56.000 We used to beta ourselves.

00:14:59.000 And then if we were lucky, we'd 8-track ourselves and send out a mixtape.

00:15:01.000 So he videotaped himself.

00:15:02.000 He videotaped himself.

00:15:20.000 He videotaped There it is again.

00:15:23.000 Pseudo.

00:15:23.000 Oh my gosh.

00:15:24.000 Oh, no, they're leaving now. 0.62

00:15:25.000 A bunch of pseudo-Christian protesters who've been out shaming young girls for being here.

00:15:28.000 There it is again, pseudo.

00:15:29.000 Yeah.

00:15:30.000 And so here's the deal.

00:15:31.000 I put pseudo in front of everything.

00:15:32.000 I've got $100 to anybody who will identify any of these three.

00:15:33.000 Makes it bad.

00:15:34.000 So we're actually here to donate to Planned Parenthood.

00:15:35.000 Wow.

00:15:36.000 Babies.

00:15:37.000 I'm going to donate to Planned Parenthood.

00:15:38.000 So look, a bunch of white people standing out in front of a Planned Parenthood.

00:15:39.000 Oh my gosh.

00:15:40.000 Wow.

00:15:41.000 Shaming people.

00:15:42.000 Let me make this really clear.

00:15:43.000 An elected official offered money to anyone who would dox pro-life prayer volunteers. 0.95

00:15:50.000 You could live the rest of your life with singular purpose and unbelievable focus in an attempt to... and still not accomplish anything that shitty. 0.94

00:15:59.000 You could set out to do it! 0.90

00:16:02.000 Volunteer prayers!

00:16:04.000 Oh my gosh!

00:16:05.000 Pseudo-Christians? 0.99

00:16:07.000 What does that even mean?

00:16:08.000 Don't use religion to divide!

00:16:09.000 By the way, you're a pseudo-Christian because you don't support my point of view. 1.00

00:16:13.000 That's also, Alexandria Cortez, she was talking about, Cortez was talking about this week, she says billions of people don't know anything about women's bodies. 1.00

00:16:18.000 Talking about the Georgia bill.

00:16:19.000 It's like, well, hold on a second.

00:16:20.000 We don't know anything about women's bodies? 1.00

00:16:21.000 All right, after six weeks, the reason it's called a heartbeat bill is because you're stopping a heartbeat.

00:16:26.000 Who's heartbeat?

00:16:29.000 Is that hate speech?

00:16:30.000 Can I not understand that because I'm a man?

00:16:33.000 Or do I actually just understand you're the party of science?

00:16:35.000 That if you have two hearts, you're a medical marvel!

00:16:38.000 Someone get Ben Carson to separate you two! 1.00

00:16:41.000 And by that logic, men should only be able to operate on men and women on women, because you can't possibly understand a female body if you're a man, so why would you dare try to operate on them? 0.86

00:16:48.000 Also plumbers.

00:16:50.000 This guy, by the way, what's also really egregious here is he streamed it.

00:16:54.000 He didn't videotape himself.

00:16:56.000 He streamed it on Periscope.

00:16:59.000 In my day, a Periscope was when you took some milk cartons, taped them together, and put a mirror on one end and a mirror on the other.

00:17:03.000 And he went, see?

00:17:04.000 See?

00:17:04.000 I can look at the top of the car.

00:17:05.000 Oh my gosh.

00:17:06.000 He never did that trick?

00:17:07.000 No.

00:17:08.000 Everyone did that trick.

00:17:09.000 And he posted it to Twitter.

00:17:10.000 So this guy obviously feared no consequences.

00:17:13.000 That's what bothers me.

00:17:14.000 Doxing, by the way, and targeted harassment, Expressly outlined as bannable offenses on Twitter's Terms of Service.

00:17:20.000 That one's pretty clear.

00:17:21.000 And they should be.

00:17:21.000 This isn't an isolated incident.

00:17:23.000 Remember Peter Fonda, the actor? 0.99

00:17:24.000 He calls for Barron Trump to be abducted and raped by pedophiles? 0.99

00:17:27.000 Lest you think I'm exaggerating again! 0.99

00:17:29.000 And I know my half-Asian lawyer Bill Larichman gets a little uncomfortable.

00:17:32.000 He thinks I'm going too far.

00:17:34.000 This is a quote!

00:17:35.000 Peter Fauna.

00:17:36.000 Easy Rider.

00:17:37.000 Was Peter Fauna Easy Rider?

00:17:38.000 Yes.

00:17:38.000 Yeah.

00:17:39.000 We should rip Barron Trump from his mother's arms and put him in a cage with pedophiles and see if mother will stand up against the giant asshole she is married to. 1.00

00:17:47.000 Now I know at first glance that seems pretty cut and dry. 1.00

00:17:50.000 But then I see the blue check mark and I'm all, I don't know what to believe anymore!

00:17:55.000 And then he's still up on Twitter, by the way, right now.

00:17:58.000 No punishments.

00:17:59.000 But he apologized!

00:18:01.000 I'm sorry, it's too late.

00:18:02.000 Go upstairs.

00:18:03.000 I don't care!

00:18:04.000 Look, there's literally hundreds of examples.

00:18:07.000 The rest of the show, the rest of this next week's shows could all be the examples of this.

00:18:11.000 Jim Carrey, Kathy Griffin, every one of these people have said reprehensible things.

00:18:16.000 No, I think it's important to delineate. 0.99

00:18:17.000 Just showing a severed head is different from saying, rape this child. 0.99

00:18:22.000 I agree. 0.98

00:18:23.000 That's not all she's done though, right?

00:18:24.000 But there's so many things that they have done that would, under the ban that just happened, would easily have gotten them kicked off if they were on the right.

00:18:31.000 By the way, this is also something that's important.

00:18:33.000 It's also illegal.

00:18:34.000 That's something people need to understand.

00:18:36.000 Actually making a threat of violence or inciting people to violence.

00:18:39.000 This whole idea you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you actually can if there's a fire in a theater.

00:18:45.000 If there's not, I believe the legal term is fraud.

00:18:48.000 We commonly refer to this as lying.

00:18:51.000 The thing is, if you try to respect the laws, they don't abide by the laws.

00:18:55.000 We have people who sign consent.

00:18:56.000 We have people who say, I agree to appear on camera, it changed my mind, and then go to YouTube and say, I don't want to be on there anymore.

00:19:01.000 And YouTube makes us blur it.

00:19:02.000 And we say, well, first off, it's a single party consent state.

00:19:04.000 We're not breaking the law.

00:19:06.000 And we can show you.

00:19:07.000 them give information. So we don't care because we just don't want to deal with the problems.

00:19:11.000 That is the issue. These offenses are actually illegal. By the way, hit the notification bell.

00:19:17.000 Actually, just bookmark the channel on YouTube because notifications may not work.

00:19:21.000 Join up at bladoffcutter.com slash mugclub. And of course, you can leave a rating there on iTunes.

00:19:24.000 So let's compare this with what gets a ban on the right in direct contrast to leniency given to

00:19:29.000 leftists. Do we have anything right or wrong so far legally?

00:19:31.000 No, I actually was going to say that the exact other point would be probably people would hear

00:19:35.000 hear the end of the first comment and say, okay, so wait, what's your position?

00:19:39.000 That they should be allowed to say these things?

00:19:40.000 That they shouldn't be allowed to say these things?

00:19:42.000 And the point being that there's a disparity, right?

00:19:44.000 The whole point is people are being treated differently not because of, you know, the certain what they're saying, it's because of the view that is being espoused by what they're saying.

00:19:53.000 And Jonathan Honig was just making the point that I don't like what they're saying and so they shouldn't be able to say it.

00:19:58.000 I'm like, wait, what?

00:19:59.000 That's not what the argument is.

00:20:00.000 Well, that's what I went through the whole private platform thing and that's not what we're talking about.

00:20:02.000 We'll get to that difference between publisher and platform.

00:20:04.000 That's the most important point here that I think a lot of people have missed when they're calling for regulation.

00:20:08.000 So on Twitter, though, before we get there, several of the accounts that were banned, I think, within the last two weeks, the Ocasio-Cortez, the Parody account, James Woods was suspended.

00:20:16.000 The Magaphobia account, which was very surprising to me, it tracked violence against conservatives.

00:20:22.000 It's like a block parent on Twitter, effectively.

00:20:25.000 I'm videotaping what's going on.

00:20:28.000 It's like someone videotaping an antifa person punching an old lady in the face saying, hey, watch out for that guy.

00:20:35.000 You're banned.

00:20:35.000 Why?

00:20:36.000 Because you upset the old lady. 1.00

00:20:37.000 I was trying to stop her from getting punched. 0.99

00:20:39.000 She was really upset.

00:20:40.000 Exactly.

00:20:42.000 And paper-thin reasons were given.

00:20:44.000 For example, the parody account of Cortez would clearly fit the guidelines for Twitter policy.

00:20:50.000 Parody accounts are allowed.

00:20:51.000 Yeah, it was clear that it was a parody account in the writing.

00:20:53.000 What I love is that Twitter said the account was seen as misleading, going a little too close to the source material, I see.

00:21:00.000 Look, it's not their fault that AOC is actually that crazy that people were confused with that account.

00:21:06.000 That's what I'm saying. 0.99

00:21:10.000 It's not our fault that she actually is that crazy. 0.96

00:21:12.000 Sorry.

00:21:13.000 You're telling me that the problem is that I say stuff that should be completely untrue and nobody should believe it and that they believe it and that I'm the problem?

00:21:21.000 It's her.

00:21:22.000 Bernie's thoughts, it's hard for me to tell the difference.

00:21:24.000 Sometimes I have to undo the retweet because I retweet it thinking I'm dunking on Senator Sanders.

00:21:28.000 And I realize, oh, it's not him.

00:21:30.000 He really sounded like he was that mad about Pringles.

00:21:32.000 This person has emulated his voice remarkably.

00:21:36.000 And then, of course, Facebook and Instagram, they banned people like Milo Yiannopoulos, Paul Joseph Watson, which I really don't understand the Paul Joseph Watson thing.

00:21:44.000 No.

00:21:45.000 How did he get put in that list?

00:21:47.000 Well, they claim they violated the dangerous individuals policy.

00:21:50.000 You're dangerous.

00:21:52.000 But again, the reasons here hardly make any sense when you're... Splendid!

00:21:57.000 The show is continuing just as I'd hoped, though many do not know my name nor recognize my face.

00:22:04.000 It is by my gentle hand that this ship is guided, unnoticed.

00:22:09.000 And once that ship has served its useful purpose, I shall coax it into the rocky shore as a beautiful siren does, in beckoning from the dark sea.

00:22:21.000 So is there a legal precedent there for dangerous individuals?

00:22:25.000 Is that a law?

00:22:26.000 No, I mean, they have their own policies, right?

00:22:28.000 And those policies, sometimes they, you know, deign to give us a definition of them, sometimes they don't.

00:22:32.000 Those definitions often change.

00:22:34.000 It's possible that they have drawn from some statute, but it's not expressly referenced, so no.

00:22:39.000 The policy itself does not refer to any particular law when it says dangerous individuals.

00:22:44.000 What's really dangerous to me, ironically, here, is that they say someone like Gavin McGinnis, designated dangerous individual, came out of Facebook.

00:22:50.000 And now they're saying that anyone who associates with these people could also be a dangerous individual.

00:22:54.000 I don't know how far that necessarily extends.

00:22:56.000 Obviously, Gavin has been a colleague of mine.

00:22:58.000 We've worked together.

00:22:59.000 But then we've had people on this show who we don't agree with at all.

00:23:02.000 Is that considered association?

00:23:03.000 The rules are never clear.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:23:05.000 And they said something about, you know, just taking a picture with Gavin McGinnis.

00:23:08.000 Well, Louis Farrakhan was one of the guys that was banned on this.

00:23:10.000 By the way, I would stand up and fight and say I hate everything that person says, but I feel like they should be able to say it.

00:23:16.000 I'm pretty sure that presidential candidates, presidents, and plenty of people in the Democratic Party have had pictures with this guy, have attended his church, have sat under his tutelage, and they're still out there.

00:23:25.000 Right.

00:23:25.000 This isn't fair at all.

00:23:27.000 One more example.

00:23:27.000 I saw Barack Obama with a Farrakhan is my homeboy t-shirt as a fact.

00:23:32.000 I'm pretty sure he bought it at Urban Outfitters, which really just tells you that he's not all that original of a president.

00:23:35.000 It's a different fairytale.

00:23:36.000 Keep in mind, by the way, this is the platform that actually banned any pictures of anyone even seen wearing our Socialisms for Fig shirt, which, by the way, can be purchased at leathercuttershop.com, along with this wonderful new d-platform, this Crest t-shirt.

00:23:47.000 That's the Crowder Crest one.

00:23:48.000 I love that one.

00:23:49.000 But we retroactively photoshopped all of those pictures with the Socialisms for Fig shirts to abide by the Twitter terms of service.

00:23:55.000 So as you can see, always thinking one step ahead.

00:23:59.000 Makes no sense to people listening on audio. 0.65

00:24:01.000 Now, here's one thing too, a lot of people see that, they see any right-wing critique of social media companies as hypocritical.

00:24:08.000 Again, if you aren't clear about what your problem is.

00:24:12.000 Hey, can you regulate some industries?

00:24:14.000 Conservatives are like, it's not the government's job to regulate private business.

00:24:19.000 But then as soon as they feel like they're not getting enough retweets, Suddenly it's like, we're launching an investigation!

00:24:25.000 We've got to nationalize tech companies!

00:24:27.000 Long live socialism!

00:24:30.000 Bernie! 0.83

00:24:32.000 Bernie! 0.83

00:24:35.000 I love how that clip was dead silent until you could actually hear the applause break carton coming out.

00:24:41.000 Yeah.

00:24:42.000 The flashing.

00:24:43.000 He was like, I don't know what to do here.

00:24:45.000 I mean, I get he's the affirmative action comedy central hire, but we thought he'd make it easier for us to play along.

00:24:51.000 We don't want to nationalize social media.

00:24:53.000 No.

00:24:54.000 And this is my proposed solution.

00:24:55.000 This is really why I want to get bills taken.

00:24:58.000 This allows all parties the freedom to choose, OK?

00:25:01.000 And I think it just needs to be as simple as a question needs to be answered officially, legally, on the record.

00:25:06.000 These social media companies, in a court of law, they need to decide whether they're platforms or publishers, because those two things are very, very different.

00:25:14.000 A publisher, something like the New York Times, or even Lauderworth Crowder, or this channel, they can monitor content published on their site, They have to take responsibility for it.

00:25:22.000 If they publish defamatory information or they incite violence, they can be sued for that because they're responsible for the content.

00:25:28.000 A platform, which would be more like, say, a cell phone company, they provide a network, they don't monitor, they don't censor your calls.

00:25:34.000 Now the reason that people have referred to these social media companies and have come to know them as platforms is because they've legally been afforded some of those rights not granted to a publisher.

00:25:44.000 And what are those, some of you might be asking, ones that protect them from being sued as

00:25:44.000 Yeah.

00:25:47.000 long as they operate as a platform.

00:25:48.000 So if someone tweets, for example, something defamatory about me, like, I don't know, 0.81

00:25:51.000 puts on a fake Nazi symbol or says that I want them to kill all the Jews, Twitter can't 0.75

00:25:55.000 be sued for that as long as they're a platform. 0.96

00:25:58.000 But that means if they're a platform, this is how I understand it, and then Bill's going

00:26:01.000 to correct me here, they cannot determine which point of views are allowed, disallowed,

00:26:04.000 picked sides, or try to determine winners and losers just based on point of view.

00:26:08.000 There's a difference between a publisher and a platform, and I think that lately they've been acting in a way that will put them firmly in the territory of publisher, and people don't know the rules.

00:26:16.000 Bill.

00:26:17.000 I would give the analogy to explain it to the left of when you hear folks on the right say, guns don't kill people, people kill people, right?

00:26:26.000 It's the person utilizing the tool.

00:26:28.000 Facebook kills people.

00:26:29.000 Yes, they do.

00:26:31.000 In the back of a pizza parlor.

00:26:33.000 Joking!

00:26:35.000 I'm joking.

00:26:36.000 For people who got really... No, I'm not pushing Pizzagate.

00:26:40.000 So the idea is that is the tool doing it, or is it the person controlling it?

00:26:45.000 And if you're not controlling the tool, then the person who is is the one that's in trouble.

00:26:49.000 So it's the publisher, the one who's putting the message out, and the person who is just the phone line, the tool provider, the platform.

00:26:56.000 There has to be a protection of that, because otherwise there would be no financial incentive to be, for example, any kind of platform to provide those kind of tools.

00:27:04.000 If a criminal orders a drug deal over a cell phone, does that mean that we should punish the cell phone companies because they should be controlling it?

00:27:11.000 And in that same way, the companies have changed.

00:27:11.000 No.

00:27:14.000 Recently, Jack Dorsey actually admitted, surprisingly, in an interview that he found himself to be

00:27:20.000 a public marketplace of ideas and was talking about his determination as a company that

00:27:26.000 they should be censoring and again, censoring not in the constitutional sense but censoring

00:27:31.000 in the idea of how they're going to limit what the ideas are.

00:27:34.000 So they are actively choosing it.

00:27:36.000 By actively choosing, they've crossed that threshold from just a neutral platform to

00:27:40.000 a publisher who's choosing the messages they want to put out there and they should be held

00:27:45.000 in the same stage.

00:27:47.000 Would they be called to testify?

00:27:48.000 Does there need to be a hearing?

00:27:49.000 My point is, I think before we get to any kind of regulation, is give them the opportunity to answer.

00:27:54.000 Make them choose publisher or platform, in which case I think we'd be talking about public utility laws.

00:27:59.000 What would that be?

00:28:00.000 They have to testify?

00:28:01.000 Well, some of it could be within the courts, right?

00:28:02.000 So the existing law that's out there, the precedent that's out there about when you

00:28:06.000 cross from...

00:28:07.000 I mean, this isn't an unusual question.

00:28:08.000 It's not like this is the first case that would ever be heard about what's the difference

00:28:11.000 between being a publisher or a platform or that kind of thing.

00:28:14.000 But it's actually putting them to task.

00:28:16.000 And the thing is, is that people have asked this question over the years.

00:28:19.000 It's not like, oh, just all of a sudden, 2019, people are asking this question.

00:28:23.000 But in the past, it's been different, and we can see it's changed.

00:28:23.000 Right.

00:28:26.000 It's been in a creative change over the years where now they are firmly over the line, especially, you know, platforms like Twitter and the new policies that are coming out from platform and YouTube, or for Facebook and YouTube.

00:28:37.000 Yeah, YouTube.

00:28:38.000 That are making it increasingly different.

00:28:40.000 I mean, we knew, what, a year or two ago When it was open hunting season at Twitter on conservative views.

00:28:48.000 That's because when you move the center so far left, everything on the right is far right.

00:28:53.000 Which by the way is also very important to conservatives out there.

00:28:57.000 If we do this, and this is I think the route that we should take, again comment and let me know, that means that if you're a conservative, you're going to have to accept these rules for everybody.

00:29:04.000 So don't break the law.

00:29:06.000 Don't criminally trespass, right, and videotape someone, I'm gonna use that word again, film someone on their private property and then claim that you're being, please don't do that because you can film in a public area in a single party consense state.

00:29:18.000 You cannot go into someone's home or on their lawn and film them there.

00:29:22.000 Just like you can't put out there a false meme that you know to be false to harm somebody just because you don't like them. 0.98

00:29:28.000 And that means conservatives are going to have to allow Ilhan Omar, Farrakhan, to post all the anti-Semitic crap they want.

00:29:35.000 By that same token, Twitter, you can't allow Hamas to recruit people. 0.94

00:29:40.000 Right?

00:29:40.000 So at that point, when we say you're a platform, then at least we know, okay, you have to, at least there has to be some semblance of abiding by the law for which all of us can have reasonable expectations.

00:29:51.000 Right now there's their rule set, and then there's law.

00:29:54.000 And sometimes you can be obeying one and breaking the other. 1.00

00:29:57.000 For example, Peter Fonda hoping that Barron Trumps get raped by pedophiles. 0.99

00:30:02.000 You would think, Oh, I don't know. 1.00

00:30:03.000 That seems like a threat.

00:30:05.000 Twitter says we're A-OK.

00:30:08.000 AOC parody?

00:30:09.000 We're a little murky on the legality at that point.

00:30:12.000 I just want to know what the rules are, and I think that's what conservatives need to be pushing for, not locking arms hand in hand with people like Pelosi and people like Cortez, who also want sweeping regulation of these companies.

00:30:21.000 Yeah, and the point that Trevor Noah made that we want, like, it's because of retweets and likes and we're not getting it, that's not the point at all.

00:30:28.000 The point is that you have to have, and this is where it does circle back to a free speech argument, the only reason these things are coming up is because in the world, not on social media, there are free speech fights going on right now on what is hate speech.

00:30:40.000 Is it really even a thing?

00:30:42.000 Is it okay for you to try to understand what's in somebody's head when they commit a crime and it's a hate crime or what they say and it's hate speech or it's some pseudo-protected group that all of a sudden we can't say anything bad about them because they're the cause.

00:30:56.000 Well, I don't think hate speech is not an actual thing in the United States.

00:30:59.000 No, but people technically know.

00:31:00.000 But hold on, but people are calling it something, right?

00:31:02.000 They're saying that's hate speech, you can't say that, that's the movement right now.

00:31:05.000 Well, no, this is a real question.

00:31:06.000 Because in Canada and the UK, hate speech is an actual legal term that is an actionable offense.

00:31:11.000 In the United States, hate speech, is that a thing?

00:31:14.000 I'm not sure if there are some states or... I mean, each of the states could have their own law, so there's certainly some states that probably have that as a definition.

00:31:20.000 I don't know.

00:31:20.000 Yeah, so my point was not that it's a law, but society is starting to lean that way and say, oh, this is hate speech.

00:31:27.000 You can't say these things.

00:31:28.000 And that's filtering into these platforms.

00:31:30.000 The things that are happening out in our culture today are filtering into the platforms, and that's why they're kicking people off like that.

00:31:35.000 It's because there's social pressure from other people saying that's wrong.

00:31:39.000 That's why it is a First Amendment fight on that ground.

00:31:41.000 Yes, and I think it's important that people do understand the legality of it and understand the difference between a platform and a publisher.

00:31:47.000 And by the way, unlike where we're talking, we'll talk about Bill Barr with Dan Crenshaw, we have to get to him, he's probably waiting for us.

00:31:53.000 He's under no requirement to speak with more lawyers, by the way.

00:31:57.000 He's under no requirement to provide a completely unredacted report to the public and or all members of Congress.

00:32:03.000 This is a legally relevant question here, unlike the Barr situation, because I know people will accuse the left and the right, no man, you're all just playing politics.

00:32:10.000 No, no, we just want some clarity.

00:32:12.000 We're calling for more transparency, not less.

00:32:15.000 I think that's pretty important because again, When you talk about sweeping national legislation, it's not about Donald Trump right now.

00:32:21.000 Again, the MAGA hat-wearing people who just like to troll?

00:32:24.000 No!

00:32:24.000 There's going to be someone else in office after President Donald Trump.

00:32:27.000 So let's try and take some steps in the right direction, allowing for more freedom, not less.

00:32:31.000 The good news here is we can actually take a first step.

00:32:33.000 Low cost, requires very little bureaucratic red tape or any kind of overhaul right away.

00:32:37.000 It only requires the truth.

00:32:39.000 It requires social media companies to put their money where their mouth is.

00:32:42.000 And if they want to continue to benefit from the umbrella and the legal protection of a platform, Fine.

00:32:48.000 Or do they want to remove it, edit, and censor content based on point of view, like a publisher?

00:32:52.000 This can all start with just two yes or no questions.

00:32:56.000 And all that's needed to start a revolution, really, right now, in fairness and transparency and honesty, is to get these big tech CEOs, the owners, in the hot seat.

00:33:05.000 And all that's required is to get them to answer yes or no.

00:33:09.000 That's what I think a good starting point would be.

00:33:11.000 All right.

00:33:11.000 We do have to get going to Dan Crenshaw, a half-Asian lawyer.

00:33:14.000 Thank you.

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00:34:04.000 And now for Barely Legal with Bill Richmond, sponsored by my club.

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00:34:14.000 Today's question comes to us from Ethel in Beaver Lake, Kentucky, who asks, as I have often heard them used interchangeably, I'd like to know what is the difference between a TRO and an injunction?

00:34:25.000 If there is any difference at all.

00:34:26.000 Ethel, great question.

00:34:28.000 I'll start at the top.

00:34:29.000 An injunction is one of two things.

00:34:31.000 Either a court telling you, you can't do this, or affirmatively saying, you must do this.

00:34:36.000 Certain actions and restrictions.

00:34:38.000 So the types of injunction generally, and these words and terms kind of differ depending on what state you're in, you'll have a temporary restraining order, which is that TRO.

00:34:45.000 It generally only lasts a finite amount of time.

00:34:48.000 In certain states, like Texas, it will only last for two to four weeks.

00:34:52.000 In a temporary injunction, you will have, in for example, some courts, it will last the entirety of the case.

00:34:57.000 So while you're fighting for your life under a mountain of discovery, a temporary injunction will be in place.

00:35:02.000 Finally, at the end of a case, you may have a permanent injunction, which is a piece of paper that will control your life

00:35:08.000 forever because it's in place.

00:35:10.000 Now as a bonus, one of the things that you can learn is about contempt of court.

00:35:15.000 That's the failure to comply with an injunction.

00:35:17.000 You gotta listen to the gavel, Ethel. 0.99

00:35:19.000 You gotta listen.

00:35:21.000 Finally, I'd like to ask a question of my own.

00:35:24.000 Is your name really Ethel?

00:35:26.000 Were you born a 95-year-old with cataracts?

00:35:28.000 Some advice.

00:35:29.000 Find your parents.

00:35:30.000 File a permanent injunction.

00:35:33.000 This has been Barely Legal with Bill Richmond.

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00:36:35.000 fine, fine, fine.

00:36:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:41.000 Mmm.

00:36:43.000 Mmm.

00:36:45.000 You know, I've noticed a change in dance trends.

00:36:58.000 It used to be all in the hips, now it's all in the shoulders.

00:37:00.000 Yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot, I mean.

00:37:02.000 You really, I mean, that is very, uh, that's very white, that dance. 0.97

00:37:05.000 I don't have a lot to do here.

00:37:05.000 I'm sitting.

00:37:06.000 For someone who is partially African-American, a person of color.

00:37:08.000 I'm sitting.

00:37:08.000 What do you prefer, by the way?

00:37:09.000 Have you ever told me?

00:37:10.000 Black, a person of color? 0.90

00:37:11.000 Negro. 0.96

00:37:12.000 Is it?

00:37:12.000 I don't know.

00:37:13.000 In French, that's the word.

00:37:14.000 My mother gets in so much trouble because in French, the word is similar to the romance language.

00:37:19.000 She gets in trouble and she's trying to find the right word in English, you know?

00:37:22.000 She can't say it right.

00:37:23.000 Alright, that's a horrible introduction, but my mother is French-Canadian. 0.99

00:37:29.000 It's true.

00:37:30.000 It's true.

00:37:30.000 The word in French is nègre in French.

00:37:33.000 That is the word.

00:37:34.000 And she would use it.

00:37:35.000 I think it's the same way in Spanish.

00:37:36.000 And then she would be like, Mom, you can't say that.

00:37:37.000 She'd be like, but I was trying to say the nice, but black is so much more offensive. 1.00

00:37:41.000 I'm like, Mom, it's not in the United States.

00:37:42.000 I don't know what to say anymore.

00:37:43.000 Oh, who knows?

00:37:43.000 All right.

00:37:44.000 Our next guest, he's been on here recently, but he's making waves because, first let me list his qualifications, and then I'll tell you why he's making waves.

00:37:50.000 Of course, he's a United States representative, second district, second congressional district in Texas, two bronze star medals, former Navy SEAL, Purple Heart, went to Harvard after the military service, and recently was on The View.

00:38:05.000 You can follow him at Dan Crenshaw, TX.

00:38:08.000 Representative Crenshaw, thank you for being here, sir.

00:38:11.000 Great to be with you again, Steven.

00:38:12.000 Hey, I'm glad to have you back.

00:38:14.000 Now, right before we went to air, I asked you, and you said you have very strong opinions on this.

00:38:19.000 Before we get to what happened with The View and Omar and all that stuff, can you name me an instance where it would be appropriate to wear black athletic socks with shorts?

00:38:29.000 I don't think there ever is.

00:38:32.000 Well, you're wrong.

00:38:34.000 So here's the thing.

00:38:36.000 It depends on how you're defining black athletic socks.

00:38:39.000 If you're talking about tube socks, Then I think you can make a pretty good argument.

00:38:43.000 I'm not so sure why anyone wears tube socks in the gym.

00:38:46.000 Okay.

00:38:47.000 Because, I mean, really, what is the functional value of the tube sock?

00:38:50.000 You have to constantly pull it up.

00:38:52.000 Is it looks?

00:38:53.000 Do you think it looks good?

00:38:54.000 If that's what you're referring to, then I agree.

00:38:57.000 But if you're referring to more ankle athletic socks, like running socks, then I really see no problem with having black socks.

00:39:03.000 I see a huge problem with it, as well as your comments on tube socks.

00:39:05.000 Allow me to explain my position.

00:39:06.000 You did not walk into the view here, sir.

00:39:09.000 I will defend my position.

00:39:11.000 Okay, tube socks, deadlifts.

00:39:15.000 Tube socks to reduce friction on deadlifts.

00:39:16.000 That's why all powerlifters use tube socks when they deadlift, because you can scrape your shins.

00:39:19.000 You've never deadlifted, if you think that's true.

00:39:21.000 Oh, of course!

00:39:21.000 Look at Magnuson!

00:39:22.000 Look at Andy Bolton!

00:39:23.000 It doesn't help that much, but it does help a little bit.

00:39:26.000 What's your deadlift, Max?

00:39:27.000 Tell everybody.

00:39:30.000 455.

00:39:30.000 It's not that impressive.

00:39:32.000 It's not like Manny, who's very small.

00:39:33.000 Yeah, I'm not...

00:39:35.000 That's not bad.

00:39:36.000 No, for me, I'm naturally a weak person.

00:39:38.000 I made the 1,100 total club with a 315 bench, 455 deadlift, and a 425 squat.

00:39:43.000 For me, that was a big deal.

00:39:43.000 Mark Repito has made fun of me repeatedly.

00:39:45.000 And you pooped your pants. 1.00

00:39:45.000 I'm not fucking for that. 1.00

00:39:47.000 I did not poop my pants while squatting. 0.99

00:39:48.000 My uncle did do that.

00:39:49.000 And then when it comes to athletic socks, you're a military man, so I would imagine you respect efficiency.

00:39:53.000 Here's the deal.

00:39:55.000 White athletic socks are always appropriate with shorts.

00:39:58.000 There is no discernible benefit to having black athletic socks ever.

00:40:03.000 So why not just have the white athletic socks?

00:40:05.000 Can we just go back to, do you mean tube socks?

00:40:08.000 No, I mean any black, even if it's not a tube sock, what's the advantage to a black sock?

00:40:12.000 What about sandals?

00:40:14.000 Exactly, that's a whole different, we'll agree on sandals, but what's the advantage to a black athletic sock ever?

00:40:19.000 What's the advantage to a white sock?

00:40:21.000 Because you can wear them with shorts!

00:40:23.000 Why can't you wear black socks with shorts?

00:40:25.000 You can.

00:40:26.000 No one will respect you.

00:40:28.000 Is this a Canadian thing?

00:40:30.000 No, it's not a Canadian thing.

00:40:32.000 It's a Canadian thing.

00:40:32.000 It's a man who knows... You still haven't explained why you need tube socks to do deadlifts.

00:40:36.000 I just, they all do.

00:40:38.000 All the best deadlifters do.

00:40:39.000 And so I do it.

00:40:39.000 It's anecdotal, but you know, I want to be like, I want to be like Magnusson someday.

00:40:44.000 No, it's not, listen, it's not going to protect it if you actually really pull it back into your shins, but it can protect with a little bit of like the friction burn.

00:40:50.000 That's supposed to smack your shins with deadlifts. 0.99

00:40:52.000 You're supposed to lean back on those deadlifts. 0.90

00:40:54.000 Oh yeah, we've had Mark Ripto in here and he's given me hell for not leaning back enough.

00:40:57.000 He's like, well, I deadlift more than you, so.

00:40:59.000 You probably do.

00:41:00.000 I give that to you.

00:41:02.000 And then Mark Ripto will tell us that we are all wrong every time on the show. 0.99

00:41:05.000 He's like, you are an absolute failure. 1.00

00:41:08.000 This is pathetic. 1.00

00:41:08.000 You can be right and he'll still say you're wrong. 1.00

00:41:12.000 Since we're talking about gym fashion real quick, the thing that I don't understand is the giant headphones in the gym?

00:41:17.000 Like, the big headphones?

00:41:18.000 Yeah, you mean the bacteria saucers, I call them?

00:41:20.000 Yeah.

00:41:20.000 Right.

00:41:21.000 It seems really hard to, like, sweat and be very active and dynamic with those big headphones.

00:41:26.000 So that's a question I have for people.

00:41:28.000 But it's not hard to wear them and sweat and be a douche.

00:41:31.000 So it depends on priorities when you go to the gym.

00:41:33.000 I don't mean to not say that about people.

00:41:34.000 They're all good people.

00:41:36.000 Not all.

00:41:37.000 Not all.

00:41:37.000 You don't need to say it.

00:41:38.000 I was like, not all of them.

00:41:39.000 Hashtag not all.

00:41:39.000 No, I do.

00:41:40.000 But I always look at them like, it is a back.

00:41:41.000 I mean, when I wear these, and we've had a couple days where it's hotter in the studio, you get sweaty in the ears.

00:41:46.000 I cannot imagine wearing this while working out.

00:41:48.000 While working out.

00:41:49.000 It would be miserable.

00:41:50.000 It would be absolutely miserable.

00:41:52.000 All right, speaking of miserable, that's a great segue.

00:41:54.000 You were on The View this week.

00:41:55.000 We covered it on the website.

00:41:56.000 When we first went and grabbed the video, it only had a few, a couple thousand plays.

00:41:59.000 Like, this is something everyone's going to want to see.

00:42:01.000 I want to toss to a clip here, and then ask you your thoughts.

00:42:04.000 Do we have that queued up here?

00:42:05.000 Yeah, we got it.

00:42:05.000 Here's Representative Dan Crenshaw.

00:42:07.000 What happened to our country's promise of give me your tired, your weak, and your poor people? 1.00

00:42:12.000 But as it turns out, about 80-90% of those don't have a valid asylum claim once we actually get their documentation.

00:42:17.000 Because what they've learned over the years is that they need only to raise their hand and say they're claiming asylum, and that they need a child with them.

00:42:22.000 That hasn't been done.

00:42:23.000 I deal with the Department of Homeland Security, and these are the numbers that are coming out.

00:42:26.000 I was on the border for one day in the Rio Grande Valley.

00:42:29.000 They had 14 kids that were identified as being with adults who were not their parents.

00:42:35.000 I thought this was a formidable performance.

00:42:37.000 I encourage people to go watch the entire interview, the entire segment in its context.

00:42:41.000 Let me ask you this.

00:42:41.000 What was the experience like and what did you expect, or I guess what did you expect to gain going on The View?

00:42:47.000 I think it's a great thing that you do, but some conservatives think it's a lost cause to go on shows like that.

00:42:52.000 Oh, it's definitely not a lost cause.

00:42:55.000 And you do this all the time.

00:42:56.000 You're always on college campuses.

00:42:57.000 You're always putting yourself in uncomfortable positions.

00:43:01.000 Politicians have to start doing the same thing. 1.00

00:43:03.000 I'm not the only politician to have gone on.

00:43:07.000 Mike Lee went on recently.

00:43:08.000 Steve Scalise went on.

00:43:13.000 What happened was exactly what I would have expected.

00:43:15.000 I think they are respectful in the sense that they stick to the issues that they said they would stick to.

00:43:22.000 I knew I was going in for a more combative conversation, but that's the point.

00:43:27.000 Right?

00:43:28.000 Like, you can't just be on Fox News all the time.

00:43:30.000 You can't just stick to your Republican clubs.

00:43:33.000 You've got to go to college campuses.

00:43:34.000 I've started doing that a lot more recently, too.

00:43:36.000 I was at ASU not too long ago.

00:43:39.000 We're going to start doing more college campus tours throughout Texas.

00:43:42.000 And you've got to speak to a different audience.

00:43:45.000 And you're not going to convince all of them.

00:43:45.000 Right.

00:43:47.000 The ones who already don't like you are still not going to like you.

00:43:50.000 But maybe some will be persuaded, and maybe some who really didn't have an opinion and now they do.

00:43:50.000 That's fine.

00:43:56.000 And hopefully it's a good one.

00:43:57.000 So you gotta stay on your ground, but do it in a respectful way, and that was our whole goal.

00:44:02.000 Do you find that it's tough, though, to express your, the whole idea, for example, behind camp, like we've done debates on this show, and obviously I've gone on, I mean, every network actually not named MSNBC at some point.

00:44:11.000 Sometimes I've never been invited back.

00:44:14.000 But do you find, and the idea behind Change My Mind was to remove the constraints of a network show, or cable news, where we go, let's not edit it, either mine or their responses.

00:44:22.000 Do you find it hard to make a convincing argument Within those constraints of traditional media and a commercial break, because what I saw was you talking about the illegal border crossings, you know, a hundred thousand last month and how, uh, border patrol agents, I think you said, um, I think the number you said it was, they say one, they maybe catch one in three and Sonny just saying, no, that's not true.

00:44:41.000 And not presenting any, any evidence or numbers of her own.

00:44:44.000 You don't have enough time to call her on it.

00:44:45.000 I mean, you just kind of have to move on.

00:44:48.000 Well, that is a constraint and it's just something you have to deal with.

00:44:51.000 As you know, when you're on these, you know, very quick segments, I think that's why Americans, by the way, are so much more enthralled by these long-form conversations.

00:45:01.000 That's why people are downloading podcasts more.

00:45:03.000 They want to listen to people talk for an hour or two hours.

00:45:07.000 They want to see a more drawn-out debate.

00:45:10.000 And there's a real hunger for that, which I think is a good sign.

00:45:14.000 It's a good sign that people are more interested in that.

00:45:17.000 But it's a constraint we have when we're on TV, and you've just got to anticipate the arguments so that you can quickly hit them back.

00:45:23.000 Right.

00:45:24.000 And I think when she said that, I simply said, well, you have no evidence for that.

00:45:28.000 Right.

00:45:28.000 I just called her on it right there because she did it.

00:45:31.000 And if you do show it to me, you know, and this is this is a problem with the immigration debate in particular.

00:45:37.000 Okay.

00:45:37.000 uh... when i'm debating with somebody on the left they simply say well i don't

00:45:39.000 believe your numbers well okay

00:45:42.000 what what would you believe in what do you think is happening why would i lie

00:45:45.000 to you about this what you know that's that's a

00:45:49.000 that's a kind of a cheap shot Right.

00:45:50.000 But again, I'm not trying to convince her.

00:45:52.000 It's particularly a cheap shot if they don't present anything themselves.

00:45:55.000 Like if someone says, well, hold on a second.

00:45:56.000 For example, you're taking these numbers here.

00:45:58.000 I've heard people talk about climate science.

00:46:00.000 They go, well, you're picking these decades.

00:46:01.000 And you're not picking these decades.

00:46:03.000 If you widen this graph, you look at a different financial outlook.

00:46:05.000 I understand that you can manipulate statistics.

00:46:07.000 Always.

00:46:08.000 But if they present nothing and just say, wrong.

00:46:12.000 What?

00:46:13.000 Yeah.

00:46:13.000 No.

00:46:14.000 But again, I'm not trying to convince her in that moment.

00:46:17.000 I'm hoping that people at home are watching and say, wait a second, she didn't actually,

00:46:22.000 she just called you a liar, but she didn't actually say why. Right. You know, that's what I'm

00:46:26.000 hoping and that's why you go on these shows because I'm speaking to a non-Fox News audience and

00:46:31.000 they're Americans too and we got to talk to them and I bet a lot more of them would agree

00:46:37.000 with us if we just spoke to them.

00:46:39.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:46:41.000 The non-Fox News audience is sometimes referred to as not 80-year-olds named Ethel.

00:46:46.000 So that's often the case.

00:46:48.000 And it really is true. 0.88

00:46:48.000 The median conservative demo on traditional outlets used to be really old and now with podcasts, you know, that's why they're trying to change social media. 0.88

00:46:56.000 They're trying to, because the demographics going younger, Generation Z, it skipped millennials.

00:47:01.000 Are we becoming more conservative?

00:47:02.000 Speaking of social media, you on Twitter were speaking about Representative Brian Sims.

00:47:07.000 We tweeted about this.

00:47:08.000 This story went everywhere, where he was effectively harassing elderly, well, at least one elderly woman outside of Planned Parenthood.

00:47:15.000 People can see the whole clip.

00:47:17.000 And you tweeted that it was, I want to make sure I have this right, that a great example of how to teach young men not to act. 0.88

00:47:22.000 Now, back on The View, you talked about criticizing ideas as opposed to insulting people in today's political dialogue, and I agree.

00:47:29.000 But let me also say, I mean, you really called, uh, Sim's character into question here, which I don't think is out of line.

00:47:34.000 How do you decide when that's appropriate and how to differentiate that kind of a soul sort of criticism versus an insult?

00:47:42.000 Because that was pretty, I mean, that was pretty rough.

00:47:45.000 I still, I don't think that was an insult.

00:47:46.000 If I, if I had said, um, that's a good question.

00:47:50.000 And the way I would differentiate it was I was actually still attacking his actions.

00:47:53.000 Yes.

00:47:54.000 So this is how not saying this is how not to act.

00:47:56.000 Uh, this is a great example of how not to act.

00:47:58.000 I didn't say, I didn't say this is a great example of who not to be.

00:48:01.000 I didn't say that he's not manly, even though his actions were very much not manly.

00:48:12.000 What he did is just... I'm so glad that this blew up all over the media.

00:48:17.000 And, well, conservative media.

00:48:19.000 I still haven't seen it on the news, unfortunately.

00:48:22.000 Do you think it would be in the news if you'd have tried to dox women?

00:48:26.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:48:27.000 Of course.

00:48:28.000 Of course.

00:48:29.000 I mean, it's not even a question.

00:48:32.000 And the way he did it was just so vicious and unrelenting.

00:48:36.000 You know, Trey, trying to dox underage girls, that's terrible.

00:48:39.000 And the way he just harassed this old lady for eight full minutes. 0.71

00:48:43.000 I mean, like, what are you thinking?

00:48:45.000 And I brought that up, you know, this is what now not to teach your young boys to act because, you know, I think a lot of us would agree that there is there is a cultural trend towards where we're not teaching young boys how to act.

00:48:58.000 No.

00:48:59.000 Whether it's with respecting women or respecting your elders or whatever the case is.

00:49:04.000 And this is this is this is a consequence of losing sight of traditional values.

00:49:09.000 and more generally speaking, this is a consequence of attacking chivalry.

00:49:14.000 You know, in your more liberal circles, you're gonna say, well, don't hold the door open for me.

00:49:17.000 I could, women will say that. 1.00

00:49:19.000 Right, also Dubai, but yes.

00:49:21.000 What are you creating when you attack these kind of values?

00:49:24.000 I mean, you're creating a moment like this where it's okay for this guy, Brian Sims,

00:49:30.000 to go up and treat people like that just because they have a different idea

00:49:36.000 or they disagree with him on something.

00:49:38.000 I mean, it was just such a vicious video.

00:49:40.000 It was really vicious.

00:49:41.000 It was incredibly vicious. 0.98

00:49:42.000 And I would not only say unmanly, I would say the action came across as b****y. Where do you live? 1.00

00:49:47.000 Where do you live?

00:49:48.000 Where do you live?

00:49:48.000 What's your name?

00:49:49.000 Where do you live? 0.99

00:49:50.000 Like repeatedly, I'm going like, that just really seems like a, I'm sorry, a b****y high school girl who's trying to humiliate somebody. 1.00

00:49:57.000 He's fanatical. 0.98

00:49:58.000 Yeah.

00:49:59.000 You know, he's so he's captive to his emotions in such an extreme way that he just he can't control it.

00:50:05.000 And that's really it was really obvious in that video.

00:50:08.000 He could not control his emotions the way he was attacking these women.

00:50:12.000 And because he's so set and he's so convinced of his righteousness.

00:50:17.000 Right.

00:50:17.000 And it's it's it's it's really problematic.

00:50:21.000 And I and I think a lot of conservatives see that we're like, that's It's something we deal with quite often where we're dealing with another side that

00:50:31.000 That seems a little unhinged sometimes.

00:50:33.000 And that was just an example.

00:50:35.000 And I do think it would be very different.

00:50:36.000 The fact that it was a representative is especially why I... I probably wouldn't have commented on it otherwise.

00:50:41.000 It's very scary that this man was elected at all.

00:50:45.000 And like you said, not only do I think if it were Republican, but let's be honest, your mugshot's not going to make a lot of friends with people who don't like you already.

00:50:53.000 This man harassed a woman.

00:50:54.000 They're just going to show a picture and be like, oh my God!

00:50:57.000 Look at that cleft in the eye.

00:50:59.000 What is he? 0.53

00:51:00.000 What is this monster?

00:51:01.000 You're not going to get a lot of grace. 0.98

00:51:03.000 I'm just shooting you straight here.

00:51:05.000 No way. 0.53

00:51:05.000 Not even close. 0.53

00:51:08.000 Or should I?

00:51:09.000 Nobody should get any grace for that.

00:51:12.000 Terrible.

00:51:13.000 All right.

00:51:13.000 Uh, finally, and then if we actually would like to go to a web extended really quick after this for people who are Muggler members, but final question before we go to that, uh, house judiciary, um, just this week voted to move ahead and holding bar and contempt of Congress for refusing to show up to yet another hearing.

00:51:28.000 Before we go, your, your thoughts on that.

00:51:30.000 Yeah, there's a lot.

00:51:32.000 Okay.

00:51:33.000 So first of all, they're asking him to show up and be questioned by lawyers, not representatives of the people, right.

00:51:39.000 Which was, which was problematic.

00:51:41.000 To begin with, and I don't see a problem with him saying, no, I'm not coming.

00:51:45.000 And also, I think we all have a pretty good idea of the circus that the Democrats are trying to put him through at this point.

00:51:54.000 The contempt issue is also regarding his unwillingness to release the fully unredacted report, which they know, Democrats know is perfectly illegal because of the grand jury testimony necessary in there.

00:52:06.000 Barr has offered about Sure.

00:52:10.000 between, I think it's 98.5% unredacted, 99.9% unredacted in volume two, which is all the

00:52:18.000 obstruction of justice, which is what they really want.

00:52:20.000 He's offered them that.

00:52:21.000 They refuse to see it.

00:52:23.000 So this is a total charade.

00:52:26.000 It really is.

00:52:27.000 They know it's illegal.

00:52:28.000 Let me ask you to simplify this for American people, because it's hard to keep track of this, just like the Russia story.

00:52:32.000 It is.

00:52:33.000 And they know that.

00:52:33.000 There's a lot of fatigue.

00:52:34.000 They know that.

00:52:35.000 That's the point.

00:52:36.000 They know it's hard to keep track of.

00:52:37.000 They know it's confusing.

00:52:38.000 And they're trying to win the war of confusion.

00:52:41.000 And it's a really dishonest way to battle.

00:52:43.000 I agree.

00:52:44.000 So let me kind of to distill this for people who don't necessarily know, you know, they've said we're in a constitutional crisis.

00:52:49.000 Is it a right of Congress or is it a right for these?

00:52:55.000 First off, is it a right of Congress to see a fully unredacted report completely?

00:52:59.000 In other words, is there a constitutional crisis and a lack of transparency there?

00:53:02.000 And is Barr legally required to show up to another hearing before lawyers?

00:53:07.000 No, neither, because this was an investigation done by the executive branch.

00:53:12.000 They don't have to share it.

00:53:13.000 Remember, Congress has the right to do its own investigation.

00:53:16.000 So the Democrats can still do that, and they can go through wasting all the resources they want to do the exact investigation.

00:53:23.000 So that's where the balance of power actually comes into play.

00:53:27.000 Well, I think it's just important to clarify for people because a lot of people say, well, hold on, he has to show up.

00:53:38.000 No, he doesn't.

00:53:39.000 Well, he has to release the full report.

00:53:40.000 It's illegal.

00:53:41.000 No, it's not.

00:53:42.000 And when you frame it that way, you go, huh.

00:53:44.000 Okay, maybe I should look into what's been confusing me a little bit.

00:53:48.000 Because yeah, I'd say we do have a constitutional crisis, if those things were illegal or legally required.

00:53:53.000 All right, if you can hold on for another couple minutes, that is Representative Dan Crenshaw, 2nd District of Texas, Dan Crenshaw, TX, on Twitter.

00:54:00.000 We're gonna go quick web extended for everyone who's in Mug Club because you gotta keep it longer.

00:54:05.000 Delicious!

00:54:17.000 As these unwitting imps fulfill what they believe to be their destiny, they will soon realize that they have merely been fulfilling their roles as hollow puppets, and I as their puppeteer.

00:54:30.000 Mug Club shall be mine.

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00:57:43.000 This is why I say put no faith in me, because I put very little in myself.

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00:57:56.000 I have no business being on this platform.

00:57:59.000 Thank you so much, Representative Dan Crenshaw.

00:58:00.000 Yeah, man.

00:58:01.000 Obviously, we had to pre-tape because he was a busy man this week, so there is that extended version, of course, for those who are at my club.

00:58:08.000 And if you're not, listen, we're not going to pitch you on it.

00:58:10.000 It just means you don't want any of the content anymore.

00:58:13.000 I wanted to talk about something here today.

00:58:15.000 You know, I was talking with someone the other day, and I realized this has always aggravated me.

00:58:20.000 And I kind of knew why, but I hadn't articulated why, and then it came up again.

00:58:25.000 How often do we hear this all the time when someone describes somebody?

00:58:27.000 Like, oh, he's really nice.

00:58:28.000 Yeah.

00:58:30.000 It's a lot.

00:58:30.000 You hear that?

00:58:30.000 You say, well, hold on a second.

00:58:32.000 How is this?

00:58:32.000 What do you think of this guy?

00:58:33.000 Ah, you know, I guess he's a nice guy.

00:58:33.000 What does that mean?

00:58:35.000 And I've heard that a lot, and I heard it recently with someone who had a daughter who was telling them, well, you know, I think this, I think that, I think who she's dating, he seems like a nice guy. 0.99

00:58:43.000 Who gives a rat's ass? 0.99

00:58:44.000 This is something that's always bothered me. 0.99

00:58:47.000 Sure, listen, don't get me wrong here before I move on.

00:58:49.000 It's obviously good to be polite, to be respectful, okay?

00:58:54.000 But we place far too great of an importance on nice.

00:58:57.000 Don't let nice be your guiding light.

00:58:59.000 Don't let nice be your litmus test.

00:59:01.000 If you make nice your primary value, And I know, ironically, it sounds nice to do.

00:59:06.000 It makes you sound like a nice person.

00:59:07.000 If you make nice your primary value, it can render the rest of your values completely meaningless.

00:59:11.000 Because guess what?

00:59:12.000 At some point, you are going to, if you're a person of conviction, you will have to unkindly defend your values.

00:59:20.000 You will have to unkindly stand for something.

00:59:23.000 Now, of course, I want to make it really clear here.

00:59:24.000 I'm not saying that all nice people are cowards.

00:59:28.000 That is not what I'm saying at all.

00:59:29.000 I'm not saying you should be mean.

00:59:31.000 But let me just let you in on something, and I think everyone knows this who's been actually betrayed in their life or who has had something happen with a friend.

00:59:38.000 Betrayal requires nice.

00:59:41.000 True deception requires nice.

00:59:44.000 The devil you need to worry about isn't the one who shows up with a creaky coffin and a pitchfork.

00:59:48.000 It's the sweet talker.

00:59:49.000 It's the charmer.

00:59:50.000 It's the one who can give you everything you want.

00:59:51.000 Or the one who even just provides a little bit of relief.

00:59:53.000 Just eases your discomfort a little bit.

00:59:57.000 Basically a nice guy.

00:59:59.000 And just as certainly the flaws that you may, and we've talked about this a lot on this show, trying to correct ourselves, trying to work towards self-improvement, the flaws that you may look for What's in yourself?

01:00:09.000 They're not often going to show up as festering sores.

01:00:11.000 Sometimes they show up as pretty bows that you wear to cover them up.

01:00:15.000 And none of this is to say that you should not be nice.

01:00:18.000 Being nice is a good thing.

01:00:20.000 More important than I would say being respectful than being nice.

01:00:22.000 Meanness for meanness sake just as surely is evil.

01:00:25.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:00:26.000 My point is that as a society, we really do place far too great of an emphasis on nice.

01:00:31.000 We often give it, when you think about it, first billing.

01:00:34.000 And how we describe people, ideas.

01:00:37.000 Even scarier, in how we judge them.

01:00:40.000 Often the people who say, don't be judgmental, are the people who judge people whether they're nice or not.

01:00:45.000 And my point here is that nice can lie.

01:00:49.000 Nice can deceive. 0.90

01:00:50.000 Nice can be wrong.

01:00:52.000 Of course, so can anger.

01:00:54.000 But guess what?

01:00:55.000 Truth can't.

01:00:57.000 Give you some examples.

01:00:58.000 Socialism passed off as nice, but it's wrong.

01:01:02.000 Osama Bin Laden in particular was apparently very nice to children, but he was wrong.

01:01:07.000 And that's why I've always said I don't believe in political centrism or middle ground for political centrism's sake, because people say, well, look, we found common ground, and oh, well, that's nice.

01:01:14.000 But what was the truth found there?

01:01:17.000 On that common ground.

01:01:18.000 Let me make it a little less extreme because I know you're thinking socialism, Osama Bin Laden, alright. 0.99

01:01:23.000 Everyone knows somebody like this.

01:01:25.000 Think of someone in your life, your buddy, who's the nicest guy in the world, never raised his voice, had a conflict in his life.

01:01:32.000 Could be him or her, okay?

01:01:34.000 We all know someone.

01:01:34.000 Got that person in your mind?

01:01:37.000 He's wrong.

01:01:39.000 Because some things, this is important here, and I know this may sound like, again, I'm saying not to be nice.

01:01:44.000 Some things in life are worth fighting for, and fighting by its very definition is not nice.

01:01:51.000 And sometimes we use the disproportionate value that our world places on nice to advocate our responsibilities, to avoid what we know is worth fighting for, or to avoid even looking at what is worth fighting for in the first place.

01:02:06.000 And because the fight, even though it may be righteous, we know is going to piss some people off.

01:02:12.000 And that's not fun.

01:02:13.000 That's hard.

01:02:14.000 No one ever blew a gasket at someone for being too nice.

01:02:17.000 I understand that.

01:02:18.000 That doesn't mean that it's right.

01:02:21.000 And this is something that I think probably Jordan Peterson has talked about this quite a bit.

01:02:25.000 It's important to be a good person.

01:02:26.000 It's important to be a well-rounded person.

01:02:28.000 Just as it's important to be physically healthy.

01:02:30.000 As it is to be mentally healthy and spiritually healthy.

01:02:33.000 It's important to learn to be polite, to learn to be respectful, and to learn to socialize with others.

01:02:37.000 But just as important, and something we don't often talk about, is to learn how to fight, to learn when to fight, to learn when conflict is appropriate, to learn when the value of nice should be trumped by the value of actually standing by your convictions.

01:02:52.000 So, the next time you think about someone, this is my challenge to you this week.

01:02:55.000 We all judge people.

01:02:56.000 So if you want to come in and say, I don't judge folks.

01:02:58.000 Yeah, you do.

01:02:59.000 You do judge people.

01:03:00.000 I judge people.

01:03:00.000 Everyone makes judgments.

01:03:02.000 The next time you pass judgment on an idea on a person this week, I want you to stop yourself and say, hold on a second.

01:03:08.000 Am I thinking, is my first value here, whether they're nice or not?

01:03:12.000 Are you looking for what they stand for?

01:03:14.000 By that same token, are you looking at your own ideas and your own actions, and are you saying, am I a nice person or am I a righteous person?

01:03:21.000 Am I doing the right thing?

01:03:23.000 If I could change nothing else this week, it would be that at least even just a few dozen of you go out there and place a different importance, a different level of priority on following, believing, living out your principles, fighting for them when appropriate, and then let's have nice somewhere toward the middle of the pack.

01:03:40.000 That's it.

01:03:40.000 You don't need to eliminate any of them.

01:03:42.000 Let's just shuffle up the leaderboard a little bit.

01:03:45.000 Okay, I'll see you next week.

01:03:46.000 Thanks for listening, watching, wherever you are.

01:03:48.000 I don't care.

Louder with Crowder - May 10, 2019

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