It's Cultural Appropriation Month, and YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is here to deplatform Stephen Crowder for his anti-Canadian remarks. Plus, a look at the history of the maple syrup trade, and a trip to the beautiful and proud country of Canada.
00:01:16.000First I find out about the Rolling Stones running a train on my mom.
00:01:22.000Then the relentless attacks on the Vox gentleman and scholar of Latin origin who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex which is both brave and beautiful.
00:01:31.000Now there's this blatant anti-Canadian rhetoric.
00:03:11.000Live from Mug Club, it's Cultural Appropriation Month!
00:03:18.000It's June, which marks Louder With Crowder's fourth annual Cultural Appropriation Month, where we take you across the globe, learning about and appreciating all the great cultures this world has to offer.
00:05:21.000We're going to be getting back into the Vox Adpocalypse in a bit.
00:05:24.000But, which of the independent, you know, we told you yesterday that this was coming, and then sure enough, just a few hours later, people, boom, started getting booted, demonetized.
00:05:31.000We have some more exclusive info here today.
00:05:34.000Which were you most surprised to see demonetized?
00:08:59.000Kaylee Woods, formerly known as Kyle Lockwood, requested the move to the women's prison, but within weeks had started the sexual relationship.
00:09:08.000Lifetime has actually already secured the film rights, tentatively titled Could Have Seen That Coming, starring Dean Cain.
00:09:30.000I know you're a murderer, but let's see if they'll do it.
00:09:33.000Well, right now, you'd probably be switched yourself.
00:09:36.000It'd be orange is the new horrible Alanis Morissette costume.
00:09:40.000But even funnier, they saw in the cell, they're like, one of the people had their clothes off and the toilet seat was broken, so we knew what was going on.
00:11:36.000It'd be better from the onion than from... People have been talking about the issue for a while, this comes from TMZ, but it gained steam when LeBron James showed the shop argued against teams using the term owner.
00:11:47.000Some, of course, have been calling this political correctness, while others have pointed to the Charlotte Hornets' ill-advised Amistad throwback jerseys, which seems as though they're pushing the envelope.
00:13:25.000Honorable mention goes to Regina C111418, I have no idea why that, who yes provided the incorrect answer for last week but correctly predicted what was to come.
00:13:58.000By the way, people start jumping in, everyone, even conservatives attacking you at that point, because everyone just wants to get in on the trend and have their opinion heard.
00:14:05.000So don't believe everything you read, both on the plus and the minus.
00:14:08.000Though a lot on the minus, let's be honest.
00:14:59.000For people who don't, he is the gentleman and scholar of Latino origin who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex, and that's brave and beautiful.
00:15:08.000Physical violence against voices he disagrees with.
00:15:11.000He's called for his followers to attack Trump supporters, milkshake them, mob them.
00:16:36.000But in real life, if someone just whipped a milkshake at you, you're not a politician, you're not a public figure, would you kick the person's ass?
00:16:41.000A stranger whips a milkshake at you, or your wife?
00:16:59.000Anytime you put someone in a situation where they even could fear for their life, or they have You've now actually forfeited your right to live.
00:18:41.000You've tried to coordinate mass flagging campaigns.
00:18:44.000And by the way, he's also claimed this is something, me specifically, that I'm the perfect YouTube creator because of this divisive environment.
00:18:51.000Isn't that odd considering that YouTube gave a $20 million grant to Vox?
00:19:20.000We spend months on these videos when it comes to copyright and research and interviews.
00:19:25.000You're talking in front of a JC Penney's catalog bed sheet.
00:19:31.000If it took you a month to do that and we refute it within the day, I mean, that should tell you that maybe you have too many people on staff and that's why they're walking out of your headquarters today.
00:19:59.000We're in the telling-you-the-truth game, and sometimes we have to throw in a lot of comedy in there just to make it a little bit more palatable, right?
00:20:59.000So de-platforming, this is something I really want to talk about quite a bit.
00:21:02.000This is, there's a difference between someone getting de-platformed incidentally.
00:21:05.000This is, again, I keep saying his name Mazza for those who aren't familiar with, he is the gentleman and scholar of Latino origin who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex who works at Vox, which is both beautiful and brave.
00:21:49.000Since being at Fox, he's made video after video after video about Fox News, which, coincidentally, is what spurred all of this, where he said, Fox News runs the media, and we rebutted it.
00:23:55.000This is a direct quote from Gentlemen at Vox, of Latino origin, who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex, both beautiful and brave.
00:24:02.000He said, Stephen Kreider is not the problem, Alex Jones is not the problem.
00:24:07.000These individual actors are not the problem.
00:24:09.000They are symptoms and the product of YouTube's design.
00:24:12.000So, it's not that he wants people gone to accomplish something else.
00:24:19.000He went to Media Matters with the express purpose of getting rid of Fox News.
00:24:23.000When he couldn't, he said, I'm going to go to Fox, and then just so happens to tie in with LGBTQ month and the major walkout at the Fox offices, we're going to edit a supercut that Don Lemon's going to be disgusted by.
00:24:36.000Right, and so I want to take just a second here because the reason that this is incredibly important, not just for you, not just for the people that are affected by this, the people that have been demonetized right now, maybe even deplatformed, every single regime in the history of the world that's turned out to be a murderous socialist or fascist or dictatorial regime has said, if only all of the dissenters were gone, if only we could shut them up or take all of their power away, that is absolutely how You end up in a place like that.
00:25:06.000If you say, you can't critique, you can't have a different opinion, you can't rebut what we say.
00:25:11.000Their whole idea, you know, this is what they say, they say, well, free speech really isn't free if someone else is intimidated.
00:25:15.000Okay, you don't think black people were intimidated when they couldn't vote?
00:25:20.000Look at all great, no seriously, look at all great civil rights achievements in the United States.
00:25:31.000That's something that's just remarkable to me.
00:25:32.000You do not help people in minority classes by stifling speech, because eventually someone in the majority will choose which minority's speech to stifle.
00:26:34.000Yeah, and I think, you know, Vox just, it sucks at jumping into the arena of ideas and competing.
00:26:39.000It can't just jump in and say, these are our ideas, and we're going to back it up with facts, and we're going to rebut every video that tries to rebut us, and we're going to handle every argument.
00:26:45.000We're going to bring on people who disagree with us so that we can show you their argument and defeat it.
00:26:49.000By the way, of course, anyone from Vox, anyone of their meaning, welcome to.
00:26:53.000I doubt it, even though you are all beautiful and brave.
00:27:11.000Whatever makes you feel uncomfortable, even though you do the same thing, but if it makes you feel uncomfortable and somebody does it to you.
00:27:16.000To me, it's frankly a marvel that you guys are still allowed to walk any digital landscape.
00:28:51.000Everyone again, from education channels to just plain comedians, like this channel.
00:28:55.000Commentary channels, all kinds of stuff.
00:28:56.000What's also funny is many of the people, I don't know if we have an overlay, who are clamoring for YouTube to actually enact these policies.
00:29:01.000They're like, yeah, Crowder needs to go.
00:29:15.000We had him on the show for several extended interviews, and I agree with him on almost nothing!
00:29:21.000So this is the problem with the infighting and people being so mature and wanting to get in on a trend and, you know, trying to sort of just wedge in personal attacks or personal compliments.
00:30:20.000That's how they got rid of competition.
00:30:22.000Remember, they said, hey, if you upload with us, we'll pay you, we'll make you a part of the YouTube partner program.
00:30:27.000And so you guys probably said, well yeah, screw LiveLeak or whoever else was around at that We're going to upload to YouTube.
00:30:32.000And then, once they get big enough and they see those NBC, Universal, and Disney Vice dollars, they say, all right, Hodgetwins, you're gone.
00:30:39.000You needed us to build this platform, and then you want to toss us out and pull the rug out from under you guys when you've served your purpose.
00:30:48.000That's the problem, is squashing competition on a dishonest business proposition.
00:31:20.000But the backlash is so much worse from people who've built this entire business model, and there are not enough Cobra Kai seasons in the world to make up for that, YouTube.
00:31:30.000Versus the backlash they were afraid of with the 2% of the LGBTQ population at Vox.
00:31:37.000They saw some retweets going out, which was engineered from the ground up.
00:31:40.000It was complete astroturf going at Media Matters.
00:31:42.000And they thought, oh my gosh, everyone's getting furious.
00:31:58.000You talked about people making videos.
00:31:59.000I think the one thing that conservatives fail to do that the other side does really, really well is make their voices heard.
00:32:05.000A lot of times we just kind of sit back and don't say anything about it, and all you hear is from the LGBT community on this one, you hear all these tweets, oh my gosh, look at all this stuff that's going on.
00:32:12.000You need as many people as you can. Don't let them forget. Exactly.
00:32:17.000Don't let them forget it because as you saw, YouTube kind of caved a little bit both ways. They
00:32:21.000ended up saying you did nothing wrong.
00:32:23.000Here's what's remarkable about YouTube. They were flip-flopping all day. I was saying this before
00:32:28.000this happened. I remember saying to you guys, you know what, I don't envy YouTube because at this
00:32:30.000point they're going to piss somebody off no matter what.
00:32:33.000That being said, YouTube is a miracle!
00:32:36.000Like, they should be taught in business school alongside New Coke and the Schlitz beer contamination, because they have managed to come up with a solution that pisses everybody off!
00:32:46.000We're just going to demonetize his entire channel.
00:35:46.000But we have to be careful with the terminology.
00:35:49.000You can follow him on the Twitter, at ReubenReport, and you can follow him on YouTube, youtube.com slash ReubenReport, for as long as he's allowed to still be there.
00:37:20.000I think maybe that's Hell's Kitchen or out here we have West Hollywood.
00:37:22.000And I think a lot of what happens with you and the gays is you do have a little PTSD from living in Chelsea, where there's a lot of parties.
00:38:11.000And you know, it's not a coincidence that the same guy that's going after you, I don't even need to mention his name, but if you want to, you can.
00:38:17.000The same Vox guy that's going after you.
00:38:19.000The gentleman and scholar from Vox of Latino origin who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex, which is both beautiful and brave.
00:38:32.000I don't care about any of those immutable characteristics.
00:38:34.000What I care is about what someone does with their life.
00:38:38.000And in this case, this is the same guy, the same guy now going after you and trying to take down your channel and making a whole hullabaloo about it.
00:38:46.000This is the same guy that a couple of weeks ago, I think you know this, I was trying to get Pete Buttigieg on the show.
00:39:07.000And then next thing you know, this guy and a Huffington Post journalist and Media Matters, the CEO, president of Media Matters, All jump in to start the mob attacking the press guy of Mayor Pete so that he won't do my show, and then they just stop responding to my email.
00:39:50.000You act as though I should have been the exception to that rule.
00:39:55.000That's what I thought about doing differently.
00:39:57.000But truly, every single one of my guests, exactly the same, whether I've had Bishop Barron in here from the Archdiocese, in my own home where I live with my husband and he's obviously not for gay marriage, I treated him with the exact amount of respect that I've treated any of my lefty guests.
00:40:13.000That I would treat any libertarian or any progressive with.
00:41:53.000I don't know if they've been crushing you worse than us.
00:41:55.000You know, do you ever think that maybe the criticism lobbed against you is that you are very articulate, you're very nice, but sometimes you use expressions that would sound like a 1940s homophobe.
00:42:02.000Like, see those two good time boys with their hullabaloo, see?
00:42:48.000Just real quick, real quick, though, because look, I have no problem with gay jokes.
00:42:52.000I mean, the idea that you can't make fun of a certain group of people, it doesn't mean about destroying one particular person over their identity.
00:43:00.000But imagine if you say, OK, well, we can't make gay jokes anymore.
00:43:02.000Now, first off, gay people are equal in America.
00:43:04.000No one's coming for you because you're gay.
00:43:06.000So if there were rights that gay people... Except for other gay guys, but yeah.
00:43:16.000But the point is that you make those jokes actually because you know gay people are equal.
00:43:20.000So the point would be if gay people didn't have certain rights and then you were constantly going after gay people, personally, I would have more of an issue with that.
00:43:28.000I would defend you as a comedian and I would always defend your right to free speech, obviously.
00:43:32.000But the point is, if you're going to come after jokes, just watch where this goes.
00:43:36.000Okay guys, Vox, you want to take down Crowder for gay jokes?
00:43:39.000You got 20 years of gay jokes on Family Guy.
00:43:41.000Every freaking joke about Stewie, the baby, is about him being gay.
00:43:45.000And every gay character that they put in that show.
00:43:48.000And The Simpsons had done it with Waylon Smithers.
00:43:51.000And you could do every sitcom, every Friends, every other joke.
00:43:54.000You'd have to get rid of RuPaul's Drag Race.
00:43:58.000Well, now they don't like her or him either, because... Yeah, I know, because he used the word, Drew Paul used the word tranny, and they were like, I think Patton Oswalt had a bit about that.
00:44:08.000What's your biggest issue with, when people would say this to you as a, you know, you've, you identify more libertarian now, what would you say to people who say, well, hold on a second, this is about YouTube.
00:44:29.000Well, the libertarian answer would be that you do try to influence market forces.
00:44:32.000You don't ask that the government get involved.
00:44:34.000Now, I think, look, this has pushed my libertarian side to its limits because the amount of power and control of information and the way we communicate and all of those things that YouTube and Facebook and Twitter have over us, I think there could be an argument that they should be considered a public good the way, you know, water works and the electric company, if we're playing Monopoly, would be considered, right?
00:44:54.000So I think there is an argument there.
00:45:13.000Yeah, so these people, the idea that the government could come in and somehow that's going to make it fair, I don't love.
00:45:18.000So this is where a libertarian, to me, it's like, you want competition.
00:45:22.000Now, the pushback I get on that from people on the right is that this is a case where competition can never flourish because of the monopoly and amount of control.
00:45:33.000And of course, the counter argument to that is that when you make that exception once, you will always make that exception again and again.
00:45:39.000And every time government comes in, they just make things worse and all of those things.
00:45:43.000So I don't know that I'm fully decided on this.
00:45:45.000Look, a guy who I know we both respect, Dennis Prager, Prager, you sued Google over restricted videos.
00:45:51.000It's not really the mode that I would want to go in.
00:45:55.000I can tell you this, I don't even know that I've fully said this publicly yet, but I started a tech company just in the last couple months and we're working on some of these solutions.
00:46:01.000And you know, I've had, I'm fortunate, it's like you, we have problems and people reach out to us with solutions and we're going to work on some of those things.
00:46:08.000Can you work on a solution of turning your phone off vibrate?
00:46:25.000I'm not going to change my opinions, and I'm not going to stop making gay jokes, black jokes, half Asian jokes, quarter black jokes, Canadian jokes.
00:46:58.000That doesn't include nasty words or jokes that offend.
00:47:01.000It's deliberately lying to cause harm, physical or reputation-wise, to someone else.
00:47:06.000Outside of that, What do you think of the argument that they're going to basically leave people like us with no choice other than to take legal action against specific people?
00:47:18.000So, for example, you will find no videos of me slandering and libeling people, right?
00:47:45.000You know what happens to a society that can't joke?
00:47:49.000violence. I mean, that's what happens. You start killing each other. Jokes are a way of
00:47:52.000illuminating a little bit of truth so that we can all sort of feel the same thing. So the idea,
00:47:57.000well, all right, we're not going to do, you know, Family Guy actually is the right example,
00:48:00.000because about a year ago, the producers said that they weren't going to do gay jokes anymore. I
00:48:04.000don't know if they've actually followed through with that.
00:48:07.000But it's like, once you say, all right, we're not going to do gay jokes.
00:48:09.000Well, are you going to do black jokes?
00:48:11.000Because you've been doing that for 20 years.
00:48:12.000You've been doing Jew jokes for 20 years.
00:48:13.000You've been doing Muslim jokes for 20 years and white people jokes.
00:48:16.000Once you start pinning everybody up and we're not going to make fun of these people, you're actually saying that group is the other and they deserve special treatment.
00:48:25.000And that's not good for them or for you or for a functioning society in any way.
00:48:31.000How effective has your channel been as a percentage of your videos would you say like demonetized compared to maybe let's say four or five years ago?
00:49:45.000And I think the simple version is following the law.
00:49:47.000Yeah, I mean, look, that's why perhaps legal action is going to be necessary, and it would suck for people like us to have to be involved in that.
00:49:56.000It would really, as I said, it would push me to really the limits of what my belief in freedom and liberty is all about.
00:50:06.000But at the end of the day, look, we don't have to be on this platform But we do, we do do something where we want to get our message out there.
00:50:13.000And there's other ways we can do it through podcasts and bit shoot and all sorts of other things.
00:50:17.000And I think there, you know, you've got to stay smart and figure out what business model works for you and the rest of it.
00:50:22.000But the point is, this isn't that they're doing something across the board.
00:50:25.000We know who they're, you're drinking the coffee in a gay way.
00:50:55.000You know, the Don Rickles used to go up in front of a crowd and he'd talk about the Chinaman over there and the black guy over there and the Jew over there and the wasp over there and the rest of it.
00:51:22.000And I'm not even going to go into the amount of crazy far left YouTube channels out there that say all sorts of evil stuff and go on and on against Christians and white men and all the all the terrible stuff that they're doing all the time.
00:52:45.000I appreciate it because I know a lot of conservatives tried to, you know, they got scared at first and then now it's not just conservatives.
00:52:50.000Everyone has jumped in, every original content creator, because they know it's coming for them.
00:52:54.000But it really is one of those scenarios where, yeah, listen, it's maybe 2%, 2% of 2% of our content.
00:52:59.000Two percent of our content is a Vox rebuttal, and two percent of that is making fun of the guy.
00:53:03.000We actually provide resources, uh, and information when we try and rebut it.
00:53:07.000Okay, we do have to get going, so on Twitter is at RubinReport, as well as on YouTube.
00:53:12.000And, uh, Senior Rubin, thank you so much.
00:53:13.000Please go back to the Angry Gay Mafia and let them know that, uh, just tell them you don't like me.
00:53:52.000Well, that's all except our... All except for our... All except our half-Asian lawyer standing in the corner over here who plays the guitar.
00:54:03.000Have a show in constant sorrow It's ain't trouble out at stake
00:54:12.000It's what works for a day or more Susan Wojcicki deemed our content right
00:57:57.000By the way, we have some super videos coming up, and also we're going to be gone for a couple of weeks, or three weeks, we're going to be actually here all the way through July 4th.
00:58:08.000Every day we have a special, an on-location special at an American History Museum, kind of taking some American History tidbits.
00:58:13.000It's exciting, it's a little mini-series.
00:58:14.000We have A Change My Mind coming around the 4th of July, and we have some super videos here in the hopper, some new Crater Confronts, some things that we can't necessarily talk about because we're working on them.
00:58:22.000Maybe some phone calls that we're going to be making soon to some people who might have pissed me off a little bit.
00:58:29.000What would you say, Court of Black Air, I'm putting you on the spot, has been the most surprising this week?
00:58:33.000What would you say is your main takeaway?
00:58:35.000I'm surprised that so many people, well, I'm surprised that so many people got demonetized.
00:59:39.000And usually you only hear about bullying when it involves some usually gay person who's in the nightly news because they were bullied in school.
01:01:09.000That's a big defining factor for me and bullying.
01:01:13.000Let's compare that to, for example, us doing a video, or a rebuttal here, where maybe 2% of the video is us making light or us making fun of somebody in a way that they don't like.
01:01:27.000You can just click on the next suggested video, which is probably Turtle Humping Work Boot, or Angry Cat, or Tranny Makeup Tutorials, Transy Makeup Tutorials.
01:01:57.000The person who does a video that is never even addressed to you?
01:02:00.000And this is all conservatives out there, or the person who wants to make sure that they ruin everyone's life who's been involved with that video forevermore.
01:02:09.000Or anyone who might even cover that video, even non-political channels, as you see with the adpocalypse.
01:02:13.000People who just happen to cover it, we want you gone.
01:02:17.000Some people were surprised at the apology video we issued.
01:03:05.000If you ever trained in a sport, you know some people was, let's say, Tarzan in the gym, Gene on the field.
01:03:10.000There's some guys who are just unbelievable in training.
01:03:13.000But they can't put it together when it comes to game day.
01:03:14.000And then there's some guys who are kind of lackluster, you wouldn't pick out of a lineup, and then when it comes time to perform, boom, they're on it.
01:03:27.000While I don't know that everyone on this team is a naturally born game day player, no one here And a lot of credit offices wilts under pressure.
01:03:37.000And I said this to everyone, because I know I could see that people were scared in the office when I walked in.
01:03:41.000It's why the attack from Vox, big media, it couldn't have happened to a more capable group of people.
01:03:46.000Not talking about myself, because just how much you see Vox bitch about how behind the scenes, all the work they put in, it's not even close to what these people put in behind the scenes.
01:03:54.000And all of the work that you don't see, that you don't know about, believe me, if you have someone on the front lines who you want fighting the bullshit right now, if I could handpick them, it would be the people who are in this room and the people who are in the green room watching.
01:04:07.000We've had a lot, and I'll tell you this, we've had a lot of trial runs in those first couple of weeks at this company that don't work out.
01:04:12.000There's about a two week, about a month mark, because it's a pressure cooker.
01:04:57.000Does that sound like a skill set that's valuable to you?
01:05:00.000To be in the heat, to be in the pressure cooker, to be in the pocket with someone right in your face, right in your grill, and to feel totally capable?
01:05:06.000And by the way, notice I didn't say comfortable.
01:06:04.000Getting used to a little impact, getting used to the grind, getting used to the nicks, the bruises, getting used to being hungry, getting used to being tired, getting used to feeling disoriented.
01:06:14.000And if you do it enough, if you do it consistently, if you stop avoiding anything other than your creature comforts at all costs, eventually you will find yourself capable of, when in the thick of it, being able to slow down, Breathe, take inventory, accept the stress of a moment, the rush, the chaos, navigate what you need to do.
01:06:52.000Once you're capable of handling the pressure cooker, once you're the person who's capable in the face of the uncomfortable, you can now be the person who helps those that aren't.
01:07:15.000Getting to where you can burden the weight of others, that's something special.
01:07:19.000And let me tell you, there are a lot of people out there.
01:07:21.000There's the burden, there's the weight of a lot of people.
01:07:24.000A lot of unseen people, a lot of smaller channels don't necessarily have the platforms that we do or that you do.
01:07:28.000And that's why I call everyone out there right now in the face of this who's been affected, who sees it happening, there's this moment in time to do something.
01:07:37.000If you are capable in the face of being uncomfortable right now, it's your duty to help burden the weight of others.