Louder with Crowder - #498 WE'RE DEMONETIZED! | Dave Rubin & The HodgeTwins Guest | Louder with Crowder

00:00:00.000 I've been expecting you!

00:00:02.000 Exclusively by Walther and Hopper.

00:00:29.000 I am so useful!

00:00:44.000 And I do serve a purpose!

00:00:46.000 Excuse me, Mr. Prime Minister.

00:00:47.000 Yeah?

00:00:48.000 YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is here to see you.

00:00:50.000 Oh, God.

00:00:51.000 Where's my Cialis?

00:00:52.000 It's not about that, sir.

00:00:53.000 Oh, thank God.

00:00:53.000 I can't spare the fluids right now.

00:00:55.000 Okay, send her in. 1.00

00:00:58.000 Hello, Mr. Prime Minister.

00:01:00.000 Thank you for- Why haven't you deplatformed Steven Crowder yet?

00:01:03.000 Did you see what that Canuckphobe has planned for Cultural Appropriation Month?

00:01:06.000 Literal hate speech!

00:01:07.000 About the literal majestic nation of Canada!

00:01:09.000 Don't man-terrupt me, Mr. Prime Minister.

00:01:13.000 I'm sorry.

00:01:14.000 It's been a rough couple of weeks.

00:01:16.000 First I find out about the Rolling Stones running a train on my mom.

00:01:22.000 Then the relentless attacks on the Vox gentleman and scholar of Latin origin who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex which is both brave and beautiful.

00:01:31.000 Now there's this blatant anti-Canadian rhetoric.

00:01:34.000 I thought Crotter was Canadian!

00:01:36.000 If you ever want to be welcome in the great nation of Canada again, Miss Wojcicki, I'd

00:01:45.000 mind my tongue.

00:01:46.000 So, I'm going to go ahead and get started.

00:01:47.000 Stephen was born in the cesspool of filth and sadness that is Detroit.

00:01:50.000 He's not one of us.

00:01:52.000 He will never be one of us. 0.99

00:01:55.000 Mr. Prime Minister, there's no doubt Stephen is an insufferable prick. 0.70

00:01:59.000 But we couldn't find any actual violations of any guidelines. 1.00

00:02:03.000 Go to hell with your guidelines. 0.96

00:02:05.000 We both know they're not worth the paper they're printed on. 1.00

00:02:07.000 You can make them disappear like a fart in the wind.

00:02:11.000 Yes, a fart. 0.98

00:02:13.000 And Donald Trump is really bad. 0.98

00:02:17.000 Legalize we!

00:02:20.000 Mr. Prime Minister, we've demonetized his entire channel.

00:02:24.000 Don't patronize me.

00:02:25.000 You know damn well that he makes his living as a mug club salesman.

00:02:27.000 Demonetizing him won't even make a dent.

00:02:31.000 But Mr. Prime Minister, we didn't just stop there.

00:02:34.000 We've since fully booted and demonetized thousands of other channels as well.

00:02:39.000 The Vox Apocalypse has been the excuse we've needed all along.

00:02:43.000 Any channel that even so much as broaches controversial subjects, they're gone.

00:02:48.000 Comedy central channels and history channels and neutral political channels.

00:02:53.000 Wait, what the H?

00:02:54.000 Where's my channel?

00:02:55.000 Why is my feed littered with trendy makeup tutorials?

00:02:59.000 No, stop! 0.98

00:03:00.000 Stop that! 1.00

00:03:01.000 That's not funny!

00:03:02.000 That's not funny at all!

00:03:03.000 You were just supposed to stop Cultural Appropriation Month from happening!

00:03:06.000 It's too late!

00:03:08.000 Why's that?

00:03:09.000 Because it's happening right now!

00:03:11.000 Live from Mug Club, it's Cultural Appropriation Month!

00:03:18.000 It's June, which marks Louder With Crowder's fourth annual Cultural Appropriation Month, where we take you across the globe, learning about and appreciating all the great cultures this world has to offer.

00:03:31.000 Starring... Porter Black Garrett.

00:03:36.000 Audio Wade.

00:03:39.000 G. Morgan Jr.

00:03:45.000 Too Cute Maddie.

00:03:49.000 And now, to take you to the beautiful and proud country of Canada, your host, Stephen Crowder!

00:04:04.000 All right, thank you so much.

00:04:06.000 Here we go.

00:04:08.000 I should let you know, we have Dave Rubin on the show.

00:04:10.000 And we have, it's cultural, you know, I got to be over the hat.

00:04:12.000 That's not going to work.

00:04:13.000 I'm sorry.

00:04:13.000 I was very distracted.

00:04:14.000 Straight off the bat.

00:04:15.000 Canada, some fast facts about Canada.

00:04:16.000 A lot of people don't know.

00:04:17.000 First off, I was not born there.

00:04:18.000 I was born in Detroit.

00:04:19.000 But Looney Tunes, it was actually named after our dollar in $2 coins.

00:04:23.000 Beavers are actually considered once a year royalty.

00:04:26.000 Really?

00:04:27.000 Yep.

00:04:28.000 And once every winter solstice, it precipitates tire sur neige.

00:04:31.000 It's a French thing.

00:04:32.000 Look it up.

00:04:32.000 Let me know if you figure out what it is.

00:04:34.000 Dave Rubin on the show.

00:04:36.000 The Hodge Twins are in third chair. 0.61

00:04:37.000 Is it Conservative Twins is your Instagram?

00:04:39.000 Yep, that's it.

00:04:40.000 YouTube channel.

00:04:40.000 And your tour is where?

00:04:42.000 HodgeTwinsTour.com.

00:04:43.000 Hodge Twins Tour, okay.

00:04:44.000 So that's a little cross marketing.

00:04:46.000 And you make up for quarter black, Garrett, so I guess you're each kind of half of what we have.

00:04:49.000 We have a full black.

00:04:53.000 G-Morgan Jr., what's the one of the day?

00:04:54.000 What are you supposed to be?

00:04:56.000 I get the beaver.

00:04:58.000 It's like praying!

00:05:00.000 Oh wow, now we just lost the... Yesterday was the third most watched livestream of the year because of the fox apocalypse.

00:05:07.000 And now we're done.

00:05:08.000 Yeah, now we're right next to the Young Turks third tier show at 9am.

00:05:13.000 With the buzz-cutted, same-sex-attracted gentleman who, I haven't learned his name yet, but I hear he's a good person. 0.99

00:05:19.000 So, question of the day.

00:05:20.000 Don't you think?

00:05:21.000 We're going to be getting back into the Vox Adpocalypse in a bit.

00:05:24.000 But, which of the independent, you know, we told you yesterday that this was coming, and then sure enough, just a few hours later, people, boom, started getting booted, demonetized.

00:05:31.000 We have some more exclusive info here today.

00:05:34.000 Which were you most surprised to see demonetized?

00:05:36.000 Or were you not surprised at all?

00:05:37.000 Where do we go from here?

00:05:38.000 Genuinely curious as to your opinions.

00:05:40.000 Hey, quick question, Hodge Twins. 0.99

00:05:41.000 Have you guys ever been in hockey equipment before?

00:05:44.000 Uh, no.

00:05:46.000 Well, top story, President Trump.

00:05:51.000 We have one guy in Canada, actually. 0.95

00:05:52.000 One guy in Canada was a black player.

00:05:53.000 Just not a lot.

00:05:54.000 I mean, it's okay.

00:05:55.000 Surprise, he was a fighter.

00:05:57.000 He was just an enforcer.

00:05:59.000 Those are not real hockey pads, either.

00:06:01.000 No.

00:06:01.000 No, nothing about this is correct.

00:06:02.000 I look real.

00:06:04.000 I have no idea what they... By the way, they had beer before the show, the Hodge twins.

00:06:07.000 Quickly, yes.

00:06:08.000 Very, very quickly.

00:06:08.000 It was a white man's beer.

00:06:09.000 I don't even know what that means.

00:06:10.000 Stuff we cannot say.

00:06:11.000 Can we just get beyond seeing... Can you just be colorblind?

00:06:14.000 It's just beer.

00:06:16.000 Our top story, President Trump sat down with Piers Morgan to clarify the nasty comment he made about Duchess of Sussex.

00:06:24.000 I've slept two hours this week, I'm sure you can guess.

00:06:26.000 Duchess of Sussex.

00:06:28.000 Duchess of Sussex.

00:06:29.000 I can't even say it twice, let alone three times.

00:06:31.000 Meghan Markle.

00:06:32.000 Here's the clip. 0.89

00:06:35.000 She was nasty. 1.00

00:06:36.000 I wasn't referring to her. 1.00

00:06:37.000 She's nasty. 1.00

00:06:37.000 I said she was nasty about me. 1.00

00:06:39.000 He always sounds like a boy who's been caught.

00:06:42.000 I don't know, that's what she told me.

00:06:45.000 She said, she said, I didn't say that.

00:06:48.000 It was her hand in the cookie jar.

00:06:49.000 Where's your hand?

00:06:51.000 Fake news.

00:06:51.000 I don't know.

00:06:53.000 If you listen to the actual, there was actually an audio leak though.

00:06:57.000 If you listen to the original comments in context, he wasn't even talking about the Duchess at all.

00:07:01.000 30 seconds, Mr. President.

00:07:02.000 Wait, Harry married the girl from Suits?

00:07:04.000 That was a nasty show, okay?

00:07:05.000 I'm happy for him, though, after the Queen had his bob killed.

00:07:08.000 Princess Diana, remember her? 0.97

00:07:10.000 That was a great piece of a**. 0.86

00:07:11.000 Mr. President! 0.79

00:07:12.000 Even at the funeral, that's all I could think about. 0.53

00:07:13.000 All I could think about was what a great piece of a**.

00:07:15.000 Mr. President, your microphone is on! 0.86

00:07:19.000 Fake news.

00:07:20.000 You know what?

00:07:22.000 It's as valid an argument as any.

00:07:26.000 It's terrible.

00:07:27.000 Yep, by the way, I'm actually receiving an exclusive right now.

00:07:29.000 We go now live to the Vox Adpocalypse at the Vox headquarters in progress.

00:07:34.000 Oh no.

00:07:46.000 Hey, Hodgman, you had a story about the Vox deal.

00:07:50.000 Were you at the hotel, at the airport?

00:07:52.000 Yeah, the other day.

00:07:53.000 Did you guys know y'all was on CNN yesterday?

00:07:55.000 Well, that can't be good.

00:07:58.000 We saw Don Lemon, he said, YouTube's banning racist neo-Nazis.

00:08:03.000 And then you popped up on the screen. 0.93

00:08:06.000 And then it went to you, you was like, queer, queer, queer, queer! 1.00

00:08:12.000 It cuts back to Don Lemon, he's like, disgusting. 0.97

00:08:18.000 That was weird, didn't it? 0.58

00:08:19.000 That was messed up. 0.88

00:08:20.000 He went from neo-Nazi white supremacist straight to your show.

00:08:24.000 I was wondering why we was going to be on the show yesterday, but then I was like, oh, OK, that's why we're not there.

00:08:29.000 I get it, finally.

00:08:30.000 There's a little bit of something going on.

00:08:32.000 Just wait until the post-show roundup.

00:08:34.000 Only Mug Club members need apply.

00:08:37.000 See, that just lets you know they're getting their story straight from Vox.

00:08:40.000 They're running the supercut.

00:08:42.000 I don't even care anymore.

00:08:43.000 Come at me, bro. 1.00

00:08:46.000 Transgender murderer. 1.00

00:08:48.000 There's a phrase you never thought you'd see back-to-back. 1.00

00:08:53.000 Transgender murderer was moved back to an all-male jail after having sex with a female inmate. 0.99

00:08:58.000 This comes from Daily Mail. 0.98

00:08:59.000 Kaylee Woods, formerly known as Kyle Lockwood, requested the move to the women's prison, but within weeks had started the sexual relationship. 1.00

00:09:08.000 Lifetime has actually already secured the film rights, tentatively titled Could Have Seen That Coming, starring Dean Cain.

00:09:13.000 Yeah, Dean Cain.

00:09:14.000 He's in every one of them.

00:09:16.000 That was a little bit obvious.

00:09:18.000 So this is a 23-year-old guy who is committed of murdering his flatmate who had zero evidence that he was actually trans.

00:09:24.000 Do you think this was on a dare?

00:09:26.000 Dude, do you think you could get transferred to the women's prison? 1.00

00:09:29.000 See if you can do it. 0.97

00:09:30.000 I know you're a murderer, but let's see if they'll do it. 0.98

00:09:33.000 Well, right now, you'd probably be switched yourself. 0.99

00:09:36.000 It'd be orange is the new horrible Alanis Morissette costume. 0.85

00:09:40.000 But even funnier, they saw in the cell, they're like, one of the people had their clothes off and the toilet seat was broken, so we knew what was going on.

00:09:45.000 I'm like, the toilet seat was broken?

00:09:47.000 I'm sorry, I just can't look at you and take anything that you're saying seriously. 0.99

00:09:49.000 You look like Brett Michaels retarded son if he dyed his hair black. 1.00

00:09:54.000 If Brent Michaels had sex with Bella Lugosi, it would be you. 1.00

00:09:57.000 That sounds about right. 0.96

00:09:58.000 And it looks nothing like Alanis Morissette.

00:10:00.000 That's Monica Lewinsky transitioning. 1.00

00:10:05.000 Oh, I see you, Hodge twins.

00:10:06.000 Okay.

00:10:09.000 You ain't half bad!

00:10:10.000 He's all bad!

00:10:13.000 Yeah, that was a Muppet Heckler reference.

00:10:19.000 Listen, we're gonna get to why you're near the Vox Adpocalypse, but let us take our time here. 0.98

00:10:24.000 We're going to meander down the yellow brick wall with some gay lions and tin men. 1.00

00:10:32.000 A horse tried to get served in McDonald's where it promptly pooped on the floor before leaving. 0.98

00:10:38.000 This comes from us from Daily Star.

00:10:41.000 One of the managers at the restaurant said that he was shocked.

00:10:44.000 Never witnessed an incident before like it.

00:10:46.000 Even sadder actually is that McDonald's was the horse's second choice after Chick-fil-A refused to serve him because he's gay. 0.97

00:10:54.000 Transgender horse? 0.99

00:10:56.000 No, it's a gay horse. 1.00

00:10:57.000 It's just gay. 1.00

00:10:58.000 It's kind of hard to tell, honestly. 0.75

00:11:00.000 It can't just be gay. 0.56

00:11:01.000 That's one more letter for the LGBTQAA.

00:11:05.000 Has everyone in this room had a stroke?

00:11:08.000 Did the Joker release some kind of poison gas in this dude?

00:11:12.000 They've been using Brand X.

00:11:15.000 I don't know.

00:11:15.000 What's happening here?

00:11:17.000 Stressful week.

00:11:18.000 It's been a stressful week.

00:11:19.000 Kills more people than drugs.

00:11:20.000 That's what they say.

00:11:22.000 Finally, I apologize in advance, Hodge Twins, the NBA teams, I guess they're looking to drop owner as a title?

00:11:28.000 Yeah.

00:11:29.000 Weird.

00:11:29.000 But we're concerned that the term is racially insensitive.

00:11:32.000 Yeah, this is a real story.

00:11:34.000 Which almost makes it worse.

00:11:36.000 It'd be better from the onion than from... People have been talking about the issue for a while, this comes from TMZ, but it gained steam when LeBron James showed the shop argued against teams using the term owner.

00:11:47.000 Some, of course, have been calling this political correctness, while others have pointed to the Charlotte Hornets' ill-advised Amistad throwback jerseys, which seems as though they're pushing the envelope.

00:11:56.000 They just had a good time.

00:11:57.000 They gonna put y'all back in chains! 1.00

00:12:00.000 And then pay you $30 million a year.

00:12:01.000 So you take the good with the bad.

00:12:03.000 Hey, what do you want to call them?

00:12:06.000 Pimps? 1.00

00:12:09.000 They're owners because they own your ass. 1.00

00:12:14.000 Your property. 1.00

00:12:15.000 And when you get old, they're gonna get some new property.

00:12:18.000 There's literally no more entitled group of athletes, no more entitled than NBA players, who are vastly overpaid, by the way.

00:12:26.000 Vastly.

00:12:26.000 What about soccer players?

00:12:27.000 No.

00:12:28.000 They're not overpaid as much as NBA players.

00:12:29.000 Well, you didn't justify it at all.

00:12:31.000 You just said no because it's your thing and you're offended.

00:12:33.000 It's true.

00:12:33.000 No, I'm being honest.

00:12:34.000 Well, we know who aren't overpaid.

00:12:36.000 Hockey players.

00:12:37.000 So thank you.

00:12:37.000 You guys are the workhorses.

00:12:39.000 Nobody cares about hockey, so that's cool.

00:12:41.000 By the way, I can see their eyes semi-glazing over right now.

00:12:44.000 One and a half beers.

00:12:45.000 Hey, by the way, before we get to Vox Adpocalypse, hit the notification bell.

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00:13:06.000 Let us know in the comments section.

00:13:08.000 Hey, Gerald, how about you read to us, we had a trivia contest winner before we get to Vox.

00:13:12.000 Bullfrag Evo for correctly answering the Socialism is for Figs shirt was banned on Instagram.

00:13:17.000 That's right.

00:13:18.000 For figs.

00:13:19.000 And the honorable mention.

00:13:20.000 Figs. 0.99

00:13:21.000 With a picture of a fig.

00:13:22.000 Which was trending yesterday.

00:13:24.000 Which was awesome.

00:13:25.000 Honorable mention goes to Regina C111418, I have no idea why that, who yes provided the incorrect answer for last week but correctly predicted what was to come.

00:13:35.000 Good on you.

00:13:36.000 Alright, so we're going to talk about Vox a little bit more.

00:13:37.000 This is something that I think people need to understand because the Vox adpocalypse started trending after.

00:13:43.000 That's why you guys actually weren't even on the show. 0.84

00:13:44.000 We just started live streaming and we were all asses and elbows. 0.96

00:13:46.000 It was crazy. 0.95

00:13:47.000 And then it was trending for hours afterward.

00:13:50.000 Oh yeah.

00:13:51.000 And we saw this groundswell of people who are not conservatives, not in the political echo chamber at all.

00:13:57.000 They started jumping in.

00:13:58.000 By the way, people start jumping in, everyone, even conservatives attacking you at that point, because everyone just wants to get in on the trend and have their opinion heard.

00:14:05.000 So don't believe everything you read, both on the plus and the minus.

00:14:08.000 Though a lot on the minus, let's be honest.

00:14:10.000 It's probably true.

00:14:12.000 But here's something important that I think a lot of people don't realize.

00:14:14.000 They think this is a new, it's not.

00:14:16.000 Vox has a long history of specifically targeting competitors, and more specifically, individual creators.

00:14:22.000 So let's look at some of the tactics that they've been using for a long time to get people deplatformed.

00:14:26.000 I should say not people, the competition.

00:14:28.000 Whether it's an individual channel, like you guys, or like this channel, or a big corporate channel, it doesn't matter.

00:14:35.000 I have no idea what kind of wars they have between vice. 0.98

00:14:37.000 Could be like West Side Story over there.

00:14:40.000 Only in Chelsea, because we know that they wouldn't...

00:14:43.000 Yeah.

00:14:43.000 Be in downtown Uptown?

00:14:44.000 I don't know where that story takes place.

00:14:45.000 A lot of Puerto Ricans.

00:14:46.000 Somewhere.

00:14:47.000 I don't think they have any Puerto Ricans.

00:14:48.000 They only have Cubans and Mexicans, which you're not allowed to say.

00:14:50.000 Not at all.

00:14:51.000 No.

00:14:51.000 Don't say that.

00:14:52.000 And we didn't.

00:14:52.000 Let's start by realizing that this isn't just going to end with our platformer demonetizing.

00:14:57.000 Mazza is the guy at Vox.

00:14:59.000 For people who don't, he is the gentleman and scholar of Latino origin who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex, and that's brave and beautiful.

00:15:08.000 Physical violence against voices he disagrees with.

00:15:11.000 He's called for his followers to attack Trump supporters, milkshake them, mob them.

00:15:15.000 Honorable man.

00:15:15.000 You know what?

00:15:16.000 Is this considered borderline content?

00:15:18.000 Because we never get these answers from YouTube.

00:15:19.000 Hold on.

00:15:19.000 Calling for physical assault and battery.

00:15:23.000 You know what?

00:15:23.000 Maybe that's on the line.

00:15:24.000 Especially considering that not much later after these tweets, Trump supporters were attacked in the exact way described.

00:15:31.000 Action meet reaction.

00:15:32.000 Well, exactly.

00:15:33.000 And people would be like, oh, it's just a milkshake, you know, grow a pair.

00:15:36.000 That's assault.

00:15:37.000 By law, if I think there's a specific definition, that would qualify as battery.

00:15:42.000 And then if you create a scratch or something like that, there may even be assault charges.

00:15:45.000 That's actually assaulting somebody.

00:15:46.000 What if there's acid in it?

00:15:47.000 Yeah, you have no idea.

00:15:48.000 Somebody's about to get thrown something.

00:15:49.000 You have no idea what's in there.

00:15:50.000 It could be a rock.

00:15:51.000 It could be any kind of thing.

00:15:53.000 I don't want anybody throwing stuff at leftists.

00:15:55.000 No, I don't want anybody throwing it at anyone.

00:15:57.000 Don't do it at all.

00:15:58.000 I don't know about all that.

00:15:59.000 Unless it's Gallagher. 1.00

00:16:00.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:16:01.000 That's just part of the show. 1.00

00:16:02.000 What would you guys do if someone threw a milkshake at you?

00:16:04.000 Oh, they'd go to sleep for a little while.

00:16:08.000 I don't want to hurt him too bad, might pop a couple ribs, you know, snap a couple fingers, but it'd be alright.

00:16:13.000 But seriously, in the real world, they say this is fine to do to politicians.

00:16:17.000 By the way, in Canada, our Prime Ministers get pied.

00:16:19.000 That's an actual thing.

00:16:20.000 Well, that's actually kind of a method.

00:16:21.000 They not only walk up with a Boston cream pie and push it in the face, but rotate it.

00:16:25.000 It's like a cartoon, like, I don't know, why does this always happen to me?

00:16:32.000 It happens all the time.

00:16:34.000 There's no secret service in Canada. 1.00

00:16:36.000 But in real life, if someone just whipped a milkshake at you, you're not a politician, you're not a public figure, would you kick the person's ass? 1.00

00:16:41.000 A stranger whips a milkshake at you, or your wife? 1.00

00:16:44.000 Yes, for sure.

00:16:45.000 I would feel like it's probably not going to stop there.

00:16:47.000 What do you think?

00:16:47.000 I mean, you've got to protect yourself at that moment.

00:16:50.000 Yeah.

00:16:52.000 I could tolerate it if it's me, but if it's my wife, oh you gotta go to sleep. 1.00

00:16:57.000 This is my philosophy.

00:16:59.000 Anytime you put someone in a situation where they even could fear for their life, or they have You've now actually forfeited your right to live.

00:17:08.000 Remember the knockout game?

00:17:09.000 Yeah.

00:17:10.000 I don't know who you are.

00:17:11.000 I don't know that you're playing a knockout game.

00:17:13.000 I don't know that you're going to slap me.

00:17:14.000 All I know is you're trying to full-wind me or someone holds you at knife point.

00:17:18.000 I can't know that you really just want my wallet.

00:17:20.000 I have to assume that because thousands of people every year go all the way, I have to assume that you're willing to use the knife.

00:17:26.000 I have to assume that you're okay with me smacking my head in the concrete.

00:17:29.000 I have to assume that you're willing to put acid in the milkshake.

00:17:31.000 Therefore, now it's not ideal, but if you do that and you put someone else in that scenario,

00:17:35.000 you forfeit your right to live.

00:17:37.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:17:38.000 Them's the brakes.

00:17:39.000 Now of course, don't throw, is that a call to violence?

00:17:41.000 No.

00:17:42.000 I'm saying don't let anyone violently assault you.

00:17:43.000 That's a call to defense.

00:17:44.000 By the way, tweets are still up.

00:17:45.000 Tweets are still up right now.

00:17:46.000 Still up there.

00:17:46.000 right now. Still up there.

00:17:48.000 He's also tweeted about assassinating people he dislikes on Twitter, and it's kind of a joke.

00:17:52.000 We joke a lot, but here, not exactly about assassinating people.

00:17:56.000 Unless it's Ben Shapiro in a Seven parody.

00:17:58.000 You know what?

00:17:58.000 Okay, strike that.

00:17:59.000 We'll probably joke about assassinating people at some point, so I want to have the pass. 0.85

00:18:03.000 Fair play.

00:18:03.000 Fair point, yeah.

00:18:04.000 Fair point.

00:18:04.000 Oh, I thought you were about to say something there, Gerald.

00:18:06.000 That was it.

00:18:07.000 Just fair point, you know?

00:18:08.000 Alright.

00:18:08.000 This is something else.

00:18:10.000 Back to you, Steven.

00:18:11.000 You look at the Alinsky tactics they use. 0.90

00:18:13.000 This is something Andrew Breitbart there on the posters talked about.

00:18:16.000 Saul Alinsky, you know, the rules for radicals.

00:18:19.000 He talked about accusing others of doing what it is that you are doing yourself, exactly.

00:18:24.000 So Vox, Maza, Vox by proxy, they encourage actual physical violence.

00:18:29.000 They've called for actual targeted harassment campaigns.

00:18:32.000 But then they accuse other people of doing it.

00:18:35.000 That's important to note.

00:18:36.000 If he says, look, they're inciting violence, no, you actually have.

00:18:40.000 It's verifiably proven.

00:18:41.000 You've tried to coordinate mass flagging campaigns.

00:18:44.000 And by the way, he's also claimed this is something, me specifically, that I'm the perfect YouTube creator because of this divisive environment.

00:18:51.000 Isn't that odd considering that YouTube gave a $20 million grant to Vox?

00:18:56.000 Did you know that?

00:18:57.000 That's a lot of money.

00:18:58.000 That's quite the compliment, though.

00:19:00.000 You're the perfect YouTube creator.

00:19:02.000 Yeah, but I ain't got no locker, do I, Mick?

00:19:05.000 I ain't got no $20,000, $20,000, $20 million dollar filled locker.

00:19:09.000 That's a bit more.

00:19:11.000 I can't imagine what I would do with $20 million.

00:19:14.000 You know, Vox is talking about making a movie.

00:19:15.000 Oh, The Loud Earth Crowder.

00:19:16.000 It's just their content is cheap and it's easy.

00:19:19.000 What?

00:19:20.000 We spend months on these videos when it comes to copyright and research and interviews.

00:19:25.000 You're talking in front of a JC Penney's catalog bed sheet.

00:19:31.000 If it took you a month to do that and we refute it within the day, I mean, that should tell you that maybe you have too many people on staff and that's why they're walking out of your headquarters today.

00:19:40.000 Exactly.

00:19:40.000 That's about the time it takes to rebut one of those videos.

00:19:43.000 With actual sources, by the way.

00:19:44.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:45.000 That's how much time it takes us to go out there and find information that rebuts what you said.

00:19:49.000 And if you were any good at your job, you would rebut that, right?

00:19:52.000 You're not.

00:19:52.000 Everything that we've done, though, is strongly discourage people from harassing other people.

00:19:57.000 We're not in the harassment game.

00:19:59.000 We're in the telling-you-the-truth game, and sometimes we have to throw in a lot of comedy in there just to make it a little bit more palatable, right?

00:20:05.000 Well, we do.

00:20:06.000 You don't.

00:20:07.000 Well, sometimes people don't want to hear it.

00:20:09.000 We're like, guys, this is so... I do it on accident.

00:20:11.000 Yeah, yours is the bitter pill that follows the sweet one.

00:20:15.000 Pretty much, right?

00:20:16.000 And you've never rallied... This is a very, very clear point.

00:20:18.000 You've been accused of this.

00:20:19.000 You have never rallied anyone to go and harass.

00:20:22.000 Never.

00:20:23.000 They cannot prove In any way, other than me.

00:20:28.000 Behind the scenes, it happens all the time.

00:20:29.000 And by the way, we said this at the outset, we have bonafide black people in the studio.

00:20:35.000 Is Stephen a white supremacist according to you guys?

00:20:37.000 Well you can't take my word, I'm only about 54% black.

00:20:40.000 That works, 54's totally fine.

00:20:42.000 Just made to cut.

00:20:45.000 Come on now, we're black.

00:20:48.000 Just by the pigment of your melanin.

00:20:52.000 Steven's awesome.

00:20:52.000 He's no racist.

00:20:55.000 Checks in the mail.

00:20:59.000 So de-platforming, this is something I really want to talk about quite a bit.

00:21:02.000 This is, there's a difference between someone getting de-platformed incidentally.

00:21:05.000 This is, again, I keep saying his name Mazza for those who aren't familiar with, he is the gentleman and scholar of Latino origin who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex who works at Vox, which is both beautiful and brave.

00:21:16.000 Mazza, this guy again.

00:21:17.000 That's a long name.

00:21:19.000 Brave, beautiful, Latino, get it.

00:21:21.000 Came from Media Matters.

00:21:22.000 Now, for those of you who don't know, a lot of people are out of the political echo chambers.

00:21:26.000 I know not everyone here is necessarily a policy wonk, so a lot of you may not be familiar.

00:21:29.000 Are you guys familiar with Media Matters?

00:21:31.000 Nope.

00:21:31.000 It's a website that exclusively exists just to try and boycott sponsors of conservative shows.

00:21:36.000 What?

00:21:37.000 That's all.

00:21:37.000 It's the only reason it exists.

00:21:39.000 Yeah, after this, I'll show you.

00:21:40.000 You guys have to go check it out.

00:21:41.000 And he said that the reason he went to Media Matters, his goal was to, quote, take down Fox News.

00:21:47.000 That's very important for you to know.

00:21:48.000 That's his background.

00:21:49.000 Since being at Fox, he's made video after video after video about Fox News, which, coincidentally, is what spurred all of this, where he said, Fox News runs the media, and we rebutted it.

00:21:59.000 It's like, well, what about you?

00:22:01.000 I guess that's harassment by your division?

00:22:03.000 Yeah, you would think so.

00:22:05.000 He could have provided an interesting rebuttal, but by the way, how has that affected Fox News so far?

00:22:09.000 Has he achieved his goal?

00:22:10.000 Is Fox News gone?

00:22:11.000 Well, if he would achieve his goal, and that's the whole point, right, is these people plunked down.

00:22:14.000 I think they're still number one, right?

00:22:16.000 Yeah, I think they're still number one.

00:22:17.000 He's gone after a lot of people.

00:22:19.000 A lot of people because he believes that we should de-platform anyone that we don't agree with.

00:22:22.000 This is constant.

00:22:23.000 Yeah, you can see that there with Milo Yiannopoulos.

00:22:25.000 I thought that two queers of a feather should stand together. 1.00

00:22:29.000 Flock together.

00:22:31.000 Flock together?

00:22:32.000 Birds of a feather?

00:22:32.000 Birds of a feather flock together.

00:22:33.000 I don't know, but again, beautiful and brave.

00:22:35.000 Beautiful and brave.

00:22:36.000 I want to make sure that you do not misrepresent my words out of context and say, well, you said queer and feathers.

00:22:41.000 Beautiful, brave queer feathers. 0.98

00:22:44.000 Real clear?

00:22:45.000 Totally different.

00:22:46.000 I think he's average.

00:22:47.000 LGBT, queer, feathers. 1.00

00:22:49.000 He ran a campaign to get people, of course, to pull ads off of Tucker Carlson's show. 0.97

00:22:53.000 In his Twitter profile says that he's a white supremacist.

00:22:56.000 Yes.

00:22:56.000 Did the same thing with Laura Ingraham.

00:22:57.000 This is what's important.

00:22:58.000 Vox and this guy who is their attack dog who goes out, they never engage in arguments.

00:23:03.000 They only try to get people deplatformed.

00:23:06.000 Deplatforming is what they call in Quebec, his raison d'être.

00:23:09.000 That's his whole reason for being.

00:23:10.000 For him, it's like scalps.

00:23:12.000 Keep in context, we've never once, I don't think anyone in this room has ever once tried to get anybody deplatformed.

00:23:19.000 On the flip side, we just want to get past this bump in the road right now so we can go back to creating content.

00:23:24.000 Mazza and Vox, their ideal content is a story of successful de-platforming.

00:23:31.000 That is the endgame.

00:23:32.000 That is the goal.

00:23:33.000 And it's not just this individual who's beautiful, brave, Latino origin.

00:23:38.000 Vox is a company that has a history of just running campaigns against people into the ground.

00:23:42.000 They did it with PewDiePie for years.

00:23:45.000 There's an article on Vox and Vox and Vox.

00:23:47.000 It's not just about me, by the way.

00:23:49.000 Tucker Carlson, Fox News, PewDiePie.

00:23:51.000 You look at what happens on Twitter.

00:23:52.000 All opposition.

00:23:53.000 They want it completely gone.

00:23:55.000 This is a direct quote from Gentlemen at Vox, of Latino origin, who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex, both beautiful and brave.

00:24:02.000 He said, Stephen Kreider is not the problem, Alex Jones is not the problem.

00:24:07.000 These individual actors are not the problem.

00:24:09.000 They are symptoms and the product of YouTube's design.

00:24:12.000 So, it's not that he wants people gone to accomplish something else.

00:24:17.000 That is the accomplishment!

00:24:19.000 He went to Media Matters with the express purpose of getting rid of Fox News.

00:24:23.000 When he couldn't, he said, I'm going to go to Fox, and then just so happens to tie in with LGBTQ month and the major walkout at the Fox offices, we're going to edit a supercut that Don Lemon's going to be disgusted by.

00:24:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:36.000 Right, and so I want to take just a second here because the reason that this is incredibly important, not just for you, not just for the people that are affected by this, the people that have been demonetized right now, maybe even deplatformed, every single regime in the history of the world that's turned out to be a murderous socialist or fascist or dictatorial regime has said, if only all of the dissenters were gone, if only we could shut them up or take all of their power away, that is absolutely how You end up in a place like that.

00:25:06.000 If you say, you can't critique, you can't have a different opinion, you can't rebut what we say.

00:25:11.000 Their whole idea, you know, this is what they say, they say, well, free speech really isn't free if someone else is intimidated.

00:25:15.000 Okay, you don't think black people were intimidated when they couldn't vote?

00:25:20.000 Look at all great, no seriously, look at all great civil rights achievements in the United States.

00:25:24.000 They start with speech.

00:25:26.000 They start with speech.

00:25:27.000 And if you stop the starting point, they can never bud.

00:25:30.000 Yeah.

00:25:31.000 That's something that's just remarkable to me.

00:25:32.000 You do not help people in minority classes by stifling speech, because eventually someone in the majority will choose which minority's speech to stifle.

00:25:41.000 Right, exactly.

00:25:41.000 And so this is the perfect thing, because it's actually turned on him, right?

00:25:45.000 It's already started to turn on him in his place.

00:25:48.000 So he's unleashed an animal, and you're already seeing, you should be able to see, okay, maybe I don't want to walk down this road.

00:25:53.000 Maybe I don't want to be the one deciding, because tomorrow somebody else could decide.

00:25:56.000 Oh, he's loving this.

00:25:57.000 He's absolutely adoring it.

00:25:59.000 Here's the thing.

00:26:00.000 When the machine turns on you, you can't do anything about it.

00:26:00.000 You don't understand.

00:26:04.000 And again, it's not about him.

00:26:05.000 It's about Vox.

00:26:06.000 I want to make sure we understand.

00:26:07.000 It's about a billion-dollar company.

00:26:11.000 And independent creators were always a target, not just myself.

00:26:13.000 That's why you see people who are just historical channels now.

00:26:15.000 You see people who just cover issues that might be controversial, and they're not even right-wing.

00:26:19.000 Independent creators, as a whole, always been the target because it's about YouTube trying to change their entire business model, right?

00:26:25.000 They've been wanting to do this for a long time.

00:26:26.000 They've made videos repeatedly trying to get Twitter and YouTube to change the designs and standards.

00:26:31.000 This is something that's been going on for a long time.

00:26:33.000 They've been very open about it.

00:26:34.000 Yeah, and I think, you know, Vox just, it sucks at jumping into the arena of ideas and competing. 1.00

00:26:39.000 It can't just jump in and say, these are our ideas, and we're going to back it up with facts, and we're going to rebut every video that tries to rebut us, and we're going to handle every argument.

00:26:45.000 We're going to bring on people who disagree with us so that we can show you their argument and defeat it.

00:26:49.000 By the way, of course, anyone from Vox, anyone of their meaning, welcome to.

00:26:53.000 I doubt it, even though you are all beautiful and brave.

00:26:58.000 Well, they made the statement, Fox.

00:26:59.000 They made it very clear that this is not about demonetization.

00:27:02.000 It's about removing all voices from the platform that they deem to be harassing.

00:27:06.000 Well, okay.

00:27:07.000 How do you measure that?

00:27:09.000 What they don't like...

00:27:10.000 They're pretty clear about it.

00:27:11.000 Whatever makes you feel uncomfortable, even though you do the same thing, but if it makes you feel uncomfortable and somebody does it to you.

00:27:16.000 To me, it's frankly a marvel that you guys are still allowed to walk any digital landscape.

00:27:20.000 Well, I know.

00:27:21.000 That's crazy, right?

00:27:22.000 Our YouTube channel, Twin Muscle Workout, we can't upload for the next two weeks.

00:27:22.000 Yeah.

00:27:26.000 Why?

00:27:27.000 They removed some videos from 2015.

00:27:29.000 They said it was harmful and dangerous.

00:27:32.000 What?

00:27:32.000 Yeah, it was just FanDuel videos.

00:27:35.000 We were just doing, uh, what do you call it, fantasy football?

00:27:37.000 That's all we were doing.

00:27:38.000 Oh, really?

00:27:38.000 Yeah.

00:27:38.000 It was the whole sponsorship thing.

00:27:40.000 I'm quite certain there was more to it than that.

00:27:42.000 Nah, that was it!

00:27:43.000 I reached out to my YouTube manager.

00:27:45.000 She doesn't say anything.

00:27:46.000 She just puts a link to creator support. 0.71

00:27:48.000 Oh, okay.

00:27:48.000 Oh, is this like you're one of those MCN, like the network?

00:27:51.000 Nah, I don't have an MCN.

00:27:52.000 Oh.

00:27:52.000 Yeah, I think they found out.

00:27:53.000 We got dropped by ours.

00:27:54.000 It's like, come with us, we'll protect you when this happens.

00:27:58.000 Hey, this is, bye!

00:27:59.000 And I don't blame them. 0.97

00:28:02.000 Listen, most people are ****. 0.98

00:28:05.000 I really don't. 0.96

00:28:06.000 It's a trend.

00:28:07.000 Honestly, half-Asian lawyer Bill Richman is like, why don't we just start our own MCN?

00:28:10.000 I'm like, I guess.

00:28:10.000 I don't care.

00:28:11.000 I mean, if people actually want a place that protects you guys, let me know.

00:28:14.000 Tweet me at Ask Crowder.

00:28:14.000 Maybe it's something we can start up.

00:28:15.000 Because these other spots, they're just going to play ball with YouTube.

00:28:19.000 And one thing I want to be really clear.

00:28:21.000 Well, maybe we'll sign.

00:28:22.000 Well, we're not going to sign you guys.

00:28:23.000 You will be last on our list.

00:28:26.000 I don't think we have enough lawyers on retainer or enough white guy beer.

00:28:32.000 We're not in the business of, I've talked about this quite a bit, making predictions or putting clickbait out there.

00:28:36.000 But yesterday we did release, hours before it hit, we had exclusive leaks that Vox the Adpocalypse was going to be coming for you.

00:28:44.000 It did.

00:28:44.000 Within the hour, countless people, I don't even know how many, they were posting that they lost monetization.

00:28:48.000 Is it hundreds now?

00:28:49.000 I think it's hundreds, yeah.

00:28:51.000 Everyone again, from education channels to just plain comedians, like this channel.

00:28:55.000 Commentary channels, all kinds of stuff.

00:28:56.000 What's also funny is many of the people, I don't know if we have an overlay, who are clamoring for YouTube to actually enact these policies.

00:29:01.000 They're like, yeah, Crowder needs to go.

00:29:02.000 Do it, do it.

00:29:03.000 Then some of them actually got it.

00:29:05.000 Uh-oh.

00:29:05.000 And they're like, well, I didn't think it would happen to me.

00:29:07.000 Surprise!

00:29:10.000 What do you think we meant?

00:29:12.000 And some people are just like, why don't you defend Alex Jones?

00:29:14.000 What?

00:29:14.000 We had him on the show!

00:29:15.000 We had him on the show for several extended interviews, and I agree with him on almost nothing!

00:29:21.000 So this is the problem with the infighting and people being so mature and wanting to get in on a trend and, you know, trying to sort of just wedge in personal attacks or personal compliments.

00:29:31.000 A lot of this stuff isn't accurate.

00:29:33.000 But at this point it's really beyond politics.

00:29:35.000 These weren't right-wing accounts.

00:29:37.000 Many of them weren't even political accounts at all.

00:29:39.000 And I need you to understand something.

00:29:40.000 This isn't going to get better.

00:29:41.000 This is going to get a lot worse.

00:29:43.000 It's going to get a lot worse unless you get active.

00:29:45.000 But here's a silver lining.

00:29:46.000 I think a lot of people maybe are looking for a silver lining.

00:29:49.000 The backlash is far worse.

00:29:52.000 Far, far worse from YouTube creators.

00:29:55.000 Not conservative people, but people who understand the kind of ramifications that this could have for their channel.

00:30:00.000 And these are the people who create the content on YouTube.

00:30:01.000 These are the people who built YouTube, right?

00:30:04.000 This is something else that I think people need to keep in mind.

00:30:05.000 You guys have been partners for how long?

00:30:08.000 2008.

00:30:08.000 Okay, so 2008.

00:30:09.000 My brother was made a partner in 2006, and back then it was really unique, because YouTube wasn't the only game in town.

00:30:14.000 There were other video services.

00:30:15.000 A YouTube partner, to clarify.

00:30:16.000 Right, a YouTube partner.

00:30:17.000 But YouTube, remember, was the only one paying.

00:30:19.000 Right, exactly.

00:30:20.000 That's how they got rid of competition.

00:30:22.000 Remember, they said, hey, if you upload with us, we'll pay you, we'll make you a part of the YouTube partner program.

00:30:27.000 And so you guys probably said, well yeah, screw LiveLeak or whoever else was around at that We're going to upload to YouTube.

00:30:32.000 And then, once they get big enough and they see those NBC, Universal, and Disney Vice dollars, they say, all right, Hodgetwins, you're gone.

00:30:38.000 All right, Crowder, you're gone.

00:30:39.000 You needed us to build this platform, and then you want to toss us out and pull the rug out from under you guys when you've served your purpose.

00:30:48.000 That's the problem, is squashing competition on a dishonest business proposition.

00:30:53.000 I really have had a stroke.

00:30:55.000 They didn't expect the backlash of all of the creators, people like you, people out there who are not conservative.

00:30:59.000 And that's when I say, get active.

00:31:01.000 At least make your voice heard.

00:31:02.000 If you have a big YouTube channel, make a video about it.

00:31:05.000 We don't expect you to demonetize yourself.

00:31:07.000 I don't want you guys to go down with a ship like us.

00:31:09.000 We were mostly already demonetized.

00:31:11.000 It was 90% or 70%.

00:31:12.000 Now it's 100%.

00:31:14.000 Big deal.

00:31:15.000 Promo code Freespeech for Mug Club right now.

00:31:17.000 We're giving you $30 off.

00:31:18.000 You guys keep us afloat.

00:31:19.000 We really appreciate it.

00:31:20.000 But the backlash is so much worse from people who've built this entire business model, and there are not enough Cobra Kai seasons in the world to make up for that, YouTube.

00:31:30.000 Versus the backlash they were afraid of with the 2% of the LGBTQ population at Vox. 0.97

00:31:37.000 They saw some retweets going out, which was engineered from the ground up.

00:31:40.000 It was complete astroturf going at Media Matters.

00:31:42.000 And they thought, oh my gosh, everyone's getting furious.

00:31:45.000 Advertisers are going to jump ship.

00:31:47.000 Let's capitulate to the angry, same-sex attracted, beautiful, and brave guy at Vox! 1.00

00:31:52.000 And now they're going, crap, crap, crap, crap, what do we do? 1.00

00:31:54.000 Right, and so one thing that you have to do, keep it up, right? 1.00

00:31:57.000 Keep talking about these things.

00:31:58.000 You talked about people making videos.

00:31:59.000 I think the one thing that conservatives fail to do that the other side does really, really well is make their voices heard.

00:32:05.000 A lot of times we just kind of sit back and don't say anything about it, and all you hear is from the LGBT community on this one, you hear all these tweets, oh my gosh, look at all this stuff that's going on.

00:32:12.000 You need as many people as you can. Don't let them forget. Exactly.

00:32:17.000 Don't let them forget it because as you saw, YouTube kind of caved a little bit both ways. They

00:32:21.000 ended up saying you did nothing wrong.

00:32:23.000 Here's what's remarkable about YouTube. They were flip-flopping all day. I was saying this before

00:32:28.000 this happened. I remember saying to you guys, you know what, I don't envy YouTube because at this

00:32:30.000 point they're going to piss somebody off no matter what. 0.91

00:32:32.000 They're screwed either way. 0.88

00:32:33.000 That being said, YouTube is a miracle! 0.92

00:32:36.000 Like, they should be taught in business school alongside New Coke and the Schlitz beer contamination, because they have managed to come up with a solution that pisses everybody off!

00:32:46.000 We're just going to demonetize his entire channel.

00:32:49.000 What?

00:32:50.000 The biggest conservative channel in the history of YouTube?

00:32:52.000 Yeah.

00:32:53.000 Why?

00:32:54.000 Well, because he didn't violate any guidelines, but we gotta give the piranhas something.

00:32:58.000 And then the piranhas are like, he's only demonetized.

00:33:01.000 It's never stopped.

00:33:03.000 Not enough.

00:33:03.000 It's never going to be enough.

00:33:05.000 That's what's so funny in this.

00:33:06.000 Fox is...

00:33:08.000 They're so pissed!

00:33:09.000 And Mazza was pissed, too, because he tweeted out some guy at Ford.

00:33:12.000 He's like, oh my god, I can't believe you got caught up in this.

00:33:15.000 I didn't see this coming.

00:33:16.000 You're like, really?

00:33:16.000 You didn't see this coming?

00:33:17.000 I know.

00:33:17.000 I'm saying this.

00:33:18.000 I'm just speaking.

00:33:19.000 Basically, it might as well be Robert De Niro speaking to a mirror right here.

00:33:22.000 But the truth is, one of you can reach out.

00:33:25.000 And I know, because you don't give my legal counsel any proper information, so I can see where this eventually ends up.

00:33:29.000 I doubt you'll actually reach out.

00:33:31.000 But I would love to know who your consultant was on handling this.

00:33:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:35.000 I want to know who got fired today.

00:33:37.000 Who packed their boxes and walked out this morning? 0.99

00:33:40.000 Probably not fired, because he's probably gay. 1.00

00:33:43.000 No, no, no, no. 0.99

00:33:44.000 No, Tyler, that was a wonderful idea.

00:33:46.000 Just who could have seen this coming?

00:33:48.000 Can we put him down in the boiler room?

00:33:51.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:33:52.000 Don't need to go to HR.

00:33:52.000 Oh, we should have never fired James Damore.

00:33:57.000 All right, we do have to get going.

00:33:59.000 We're going to have, speaking with Dave Rubin on the show after this.

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00:35:35.000 You know what?

00:35:36.000 I like it when I get rid of this hat.

00:35:37.000 Yeah.

00:35:37.000 I can do... Well, that wasn't very frisbee.

00:35:39.000 It was better earlier today.

00:35:42.000 Hey, look! 0.99

00:35:42.000 It's my favorite gay wasp. 0.99

00:35:44.000 Gay Jew, I guess. 0.99

00:35:46.000 But we have to be careful with the terminology. 0.89

00:35:49.000 You can follow him on the Twitter, at ReubenReport, and you can follow him on YouTube, youtube.com slash ReubenReport, for as long as he's allowed to still be there.

00:35:56.000 Dave Reuben, how are you, sir?

00:35:58.000 Well, first off, Crowder, a lot of people right now, a lot of people telling me that you're a homophobe.

00:36:04.000 Yes.

00:36:05.000 That's word out on the street.

00:36:06.000 Now, of course, a phobe is a phobia.

00:36:09.000 A phobia is an irrational fear.

00:36:11.000 So I thought, even though you're interviewing me here, I would ask you the first question.

00:36:15.000 Do you have an irrational fear of gay people?

00:36:19.000 Like if a gay person is, say, walking down the street and you're walking this way, do you freak out?

00:36:23.000 Like, you know, like, is this fear?

00:36:25.000 Is this going to lead to you telling everybody that I hugged you again and you tried to embarrass me and ruin my street cred?

00:36:30.000 One time, we both met once in person and you did give me a very, very warm, uncomfortably long hug.

00:36:37.000 Ah, okay.

00:36:37.000 Well, that always feels great coming from a man who typically likes hugs, uh, for men.

00:36:42.000 Uh, but, uh, so he, by the way, how...

00:36:45.000 Irrational fear, because people are going to be angry just that I'm even talking to you right now.

00:36:50.000 You deny my existence, Crowder. 0.99

00:36:52.000 You're coming for gay people, even though you're dressed like a member of the Village People. 0.99

00:36:56.000 What the hell's going on here? 0.99

00:36:57.000 So do you have the irrational fear of gay people? 0.98

00:36:59.000 This is if Alanis Morissette were added as a member.

00:37:01.000 You know, I don't necessarily think so, but, um... You know, I don't like the parties.

00:37:07.000 They get a little bit loud.

00:37:08.000 I lived in Chelsea for a year, and it was a little bit tough to find sleep.

00:37:11.000 I'm not going to lie, I was irritated.

00:37:13.000 That's what it is.

00:37:14.000 So you live in Chelsea, which at one time was really like the gayest place in New York. 0.87

00:37:18.000 I'm not sure if it still is anymore.

00:37:20.000 I think maybe that's Hell's Kitchen or out here we have West Hollywood.

00:37:22.000 And I think a lot of what happens with you and the gays is you do have a little PTSD from living in Chelsea, where there's a lot of parties. 1.00

00:37:30.000 It's very loud.

00:37:31.000 There's people screaming and having a good time.

00:37:33.000 They have something called Sunday Fun Day.

00:37:35.000 I've never had that fun on a Sunday.

00:37:37.000 We just call it the Sabbath.

00:37:39.000 Yeah, well, I can't have that much fun during the day.

00:37:42.000 I ended up getting fun from about 8 p.m.

00:37:44.000 to about 10 p.m.

00:37:45.000 That's pretty much it for me.

00:37:46.000 Yeah.

00:37:47.000 By the way, yeah, so how offended were you at the apology?

00:37:50.000 Because some people were like, man, Ruben is pissed that you made the Rock Hudson Gomer Pile bit.

00:37:54.000 And I'm like, well, okay.

00:37:55.000 Well, I didn't think the joke itself was that great.

00:37:57.000 I would have appreciated a Golden Girls reference.

00:37:59.000 You know, Blanche's brother Clayton was a very straight acting gay guy.

00:38:03.000 I would have preferred that.

00:38:04.000 That would have worked a little more comedically for me.

00:38:06.000 Yes.

00:38:08.000 But you're doing the right thing here, man.

00:38:09.000 You cannot bow to these people.

00:38:11.000 And you know, it's not a coincidence that the same guy that's going after you, I don't even need to mention his name, but if you want to, you can.

00:38:17.000 The same Vox guy that's going after you.

00:38:19.000 The gentleman and scholar from Vox of Latino origin who happens to be attracted to members of the same sex, which is both beautiful and brave.

00:38:27.000 Yes, continue.

00:38:29.000 I don't care what his ethnicity is. 0.98

00:38:30.000 I don't care what his gender is. 0.94

00:38:32.000 I don't care about any of those immutable characteristics.

00:38:34.000 What I care is about what someone does with their life.

00:38:38.000 And in this case, this is the same guy, the same guy now going after you and trying to take down your channel and making a whole hullabaloo about it.

00:38:46.000 This is the same guy that a couple of weeks ago, I think you know this, I was trying to get Pete Buttigieg on the show.

00:38:51.000 Tweeted at Pete Buttigieg.

00:38:54.000 Immediately, his PR press people say, DM me.

00:38:57.000 I get it.

00:38:58.000 You know, the head of PR for him says, DM me.

00:39:01.000 Start going back and forth.

00:39:02.000 We trade some emails.

00:39:03.000 He's got a trip coming to LA in June.

00:39:06.000 We're going to work it out.

00:39:07.000 And then next thing you know, this guy and a Huffington Post journalist and Media Matters, the CEO, president of Media Matters, All jump in to start the mob attacking the press guy of Mayor Pete so that he won't do my show, and then they just stop responding to my email.

00:39:21.000 What was their reasoning?

00:39:23.000 Well, I'm a scary dude.

00:39:24.000 I was gonna say, like, here's the one thing.

00:39:26.000 If anything, the only valid criticism I would say of you is that you tend to be very nice with everybody.

00:39:31.000 Like, I don't think I've ever seen you get in somebody's grill.

00:39:34.000 I would love to see that.

00:39:36.000 Isn't it funny, Crowder, that we live in a time where everybody's always upset that everybody hates each other, right?

00:39:40.000 Everyone's trying to destroy each other.

00:39:42.000 We're more polarized than ever before.

00:39:43.000 I mean, these are all just the things people say.

00:39:45.000 Then I come around and I really, I have treated, you included, I have treated every single one of my guests.

00:39:45.000 Right.

00:39:50.000 You act as though I should have been the exception to that rule.

00:39:55.000 That's what I thought about doing differently.

00:39:57.000 But truly, every single one of my guests, exactly the same, whether I've had Bishop Barron in here from the Archdiocese, in my own home where I live with my husband and he's obviously not for gay marriage, I treated him with the exact amount of respect that I've treated any of my lefty guests. 0.64

00:40:13.000 That I would treat any libertarian or any progressive with.

00:40:16.000 I treat everybody exactly the same.

00:40:18.000 And that's partly why I'm taking the hits right now.

00:40:20.000 Because it's one thing to go after you, because it's like you're saying, I'm a conservative.

00:40:25.000 I'm using comedy to really throw it in their face.

00:40:28.000 Sure.

00:40:29.000 Where me, like, they don't know what to do with me.

00:40:30.000 Because if you looked, if it was the back of a baseball card, they'd be like, wait a minute, this guy is supposed to be a lefty.

00:40:35.000 He acts nice.

00:40:36.000 You know, he lives in LA.

00:40:37.000 None of this adds up.

00:40:38.000 So that's why a certain amount of hate is coming to me.

00:40:40.000 But by the way, you know, this Fox journalist, And again, I don't, I don't even, I can't, I'm not even sure what his name is.

00:40:46.000 Gentleman, scholar, Latino origin, same-sex attraction, wonderful, beautiful, brave.

00:40:46.000 Carlos, I'm asking.

00:40:49.000 Yeah.

00:40:50.000 In his Twitter bio, it says that Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist.

00:40:56.000 Yeah.

00:40:57.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:40:57.000 Now, that seems pretty freaking directly hateful, directly potentially inciting violence, like to be a white supremacist. 0.98

00:41:05.000 Well, it's not, but especially when you see that he didn't potentially incite, he said milkshake. 0.93

00:41:09.000 He said assault, commit battery against white supremacists and has identified people.

00:41:13.000 Yeah. 0.81

00:41:14.000 That's not left to the imagination.

00:41:16.000 We wouldn't call it foreshadowing if this were an auteur.

00:41:19.000 You'd be like, oh, he's a violent guy.

00:41:22.000 Right.

00:41:22.000 So think about what this guy's doing.

00:41:23.000 I mean, we have three examples now.

00:41:24.000 So he's trying to stop people from talking to me as an interviewer, no matter how moderate I may be.

00:41:30.000 He's trying to literally get you booted off YouTube. 0.66

00:41:34.000 And he's putting messaging out there as a journalist, and I've got air quotes going, that Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist.

00:41:41.000 So this is why journalism is collapsing. 0.99

00:41:44.000 This sucks on the YouTube front.

00:41:46.000 I mean, they've been crushing my channel even worse than yours. 0.83

00:41:48.000 And it's like, you know, we just gotta keep fighting, man.

00:41:52.000 What else can we do, right?

00:41:53.000 I don't know if they've been crushing you worse than us.

00:41:55.000 You know, do you ever think that maybe the criticism lobbed against you is that you are very articulate, you're very nice, but sometimes you use expressions that would sound like a 1940s homophobe.

00:42:02.000 Like, see those two good time boys with their hullabaloo, see?

00:42:06.000 It's a little confusing.

00:42:07.000 Wait, that's a criticism of me or a criticism of you?

00:42:09.000 No, it's a criticism of you.

00:42:10.000 You said, hullabaloo, hullabaloo, these kids with their hootenannies.

00:42:13.000 Sure, I'm a little older than you.

00:42:16.000 I'll be 43 in a couple weeks.

00:42:18.000 Really?

00:42:19.000 You carry it well.

00:42:20.000 That's the one thing with being lighter, you know, being overall, you're smaller than I am.

00:42:24.000 Heavyweights don't age well.

00:42:26.000 There's a lot of torque on the joints.

00:42:27.000 No, no, you're not aging well, everyone.

00:42:30.000 No, everyone knows that I'm not aging well.

00:42:31.000 Even Dylan Rattigan.

00:42:32.000 I'm picking you off YouTube.

00:42:33.000 It's the fact that you're aging horribly.

00:42:35.000 Yes, exactly.

00:42:36.000 Like a puddling from Dark Crystal.

00:42:37.000 Not quite as bad as Don Lemon, but he just didn't get the anti-aging day genes.

00:42:43.000 I don't know what it is with Don Lemon.

00:42:45.000 Just the luck of the draw.

00:42:46.000 So let me ask you this. 0.88

00:42:48.000 Just real quick, real quick, though, because look, I have no problem with gay jokes. 1.00

00:42:52.000 I mean, the idea that you can't make fun of a certain group of people, it doesn't mean about destroying one particular person over their identity.

00:43:00.000 But imagine if you say, OK, well, we can't make gay jokes anymore.

00:43:02.000 Now, first off, gay people are equal in America. 0.98

00:43:04.000 No one's coming for you because you're gay. 1.00

00:43:06.000 So if there were rights that gay people... Except for other gay guys, but yeah. 0.99

00:43:10.000 Right, exactly. 0.89

00:43:11.000 But that's a joke.

00:43:12.000 See what you did there?

00:43:12.000 See?

00:43:13.000 See?

00:43:13.000 Tell me where that's hateful.

00:43:14.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:43:16.000 But the point is that you make those jokes actually because you know gay people are equal.

00:43:20.000 So the point would be if gay people didn't have certain rights and then you were constantly going after gay people, personally, I would have more of an issue with that.

00:43:28.000 I would defend you as a comedian and I would always defend your right to free speech, obviously.

00:43:32.000 But the point is, if you're going to come after jokes, just watch where this goes.

00:43:36.000 Okay guys, Vox, you want to take down Crowder for gay jokes?

00:43:39.000 You got 20 years of gay jokes on Family Guy. 0.99

00:43:41.000 Every freaking joke about Stewie, the baby, is about him being gay. 0.99

00:43:45.000 And every gay character that they put in that show. 0.99

00:43:48.000 And The Simpsons had done it with Waylon Smithers.

00:43:51.000 And you could do every sitcom, every Friends, every other joke.

00:43:54.000 You'd have to get rid of RuPaul's Drag Race.

00:43:58.000 Well, now they don't like her or him either, because... Yeah, I know, because he used the word, Drew Paul used the word tranny, and they were like, I think Patton Oswalt had a bit about that.

00:44:06.000 Clearly didn't mean it hatefully.

00:44:08.000 What's your biggest issue with, when people would say this to you as a, you know, you've, you identify more libertarian now, what would you say to people who say, well, hold on a second, this is about YouTube.

00:44:08.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:44:18.000 They have the right to, for example, completely demonetize whoever they want.

00:44:22.000 You shouldn't be trying to influence market forces, you know, or they can ban whoever they want.

00:44:27.000 What's your response to that?

00:44:29.000 Well, the libertarian answer would be that you do try to influence market forces.

00:44:32.000 You don't ask that the government get involved.

00:44:34.000 Now, I think, look, this has pushed my libertarian side to its limits because the amount of power and control of information and the way we communicate and all of those things that YouTube and Facebook and Twitter have over us, I think there could be an argument that they should be considered a public good the way, you know, water works and the electric company, if we're playing Monopoly, would be considered, right?

00:44:54.000 So I think there is an argument there.

00:44:56.000 I'm not really for it.

00:44:57.000 And the idea that the government should come in and regulate YouTube and Google, it's like, I live in California.

00:45:02.000 I pay my state taxes on the California state website.

00:45:05.000 It looks like Prodigy in 1993.

00:45:07.000 That might be too old of a thing.

00:45:08.000 No, I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:45:10.000 And then we moved on to Angel Fire, Angel Fire, GeoCities.

00:45:12.000 Yes, I know it well.

00:45:13.000 Yeah, so these people, the idea that the government could come in and somehow that's going to make it fair, I don't love.

00:45:18.000 So this is where a libertarian, to me, it's like, you want competition.

00:45:22.000 Now, the pushback I get on that from people on the right is that this is a case where competition can never flourish because of the monopoly and amount of control.

00:45:33.000 And of course, the counter argument to that is that when you make that exception once, you will always make that exception again and again.

00:45:39.000 And every time government comes in, they just make things worse and all of those things.

00:45:43.000 So I don't know that I'm fully decided on this.

00:45:45.000 Look, a guy who I know we both respect, Dennis Prager, Prager, you sued Google over restricted videos.

00:45:51.000 It's not really the mode that I would want to go in.

00:45:55.000 I can tell you this, I don't even know that I've fully said this publicly yet, but I started a tech company just in the last couple months and we're working on some of these solutions.

00:46:01.000 And you know, I've had, I'm fortunate, it's like you, we have problems and people reach out to us with solutions and we're going to work on some of those things.

00:46:08.000 Can you work on a solution of turning your phone off vibrate?

00:46:13.000 You and Naomi Wolf. 0.99

00:46:14.000 It's the gay mafia. 1.00

00:46:17.000 They are really not happy that I'm talking to you. 0.99

00:46:20.000 I can't believe that.

00:46:20.000 You know what?

00:46:21.000 Tell them they're all welcome to come on the show.

00:46:23.000 Here's the deal.

00:46:24.000 They can come on the show. 0.98

00:46:25.000 I'm not going to change my opinions, and I'm not going to stop making gay jokes, black jokes, half Asian jokes, quarter black jokes, Canadian jokes. 1.00

00:46:32.000 They're never going to stop. 0.81

00:46:33.000 I mean, people just need to understand this.

00:46:35.000 And there's a big difference, by the way.

00:46:36.000 We were just talking with David Barton about this.

00:46:38.000 You know, freedom of speech.

00:46:39.000 People say, well, where do you draw the line? 0.99

00:46:40.000 And they always use a stupid example of you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. 0.99

00:46:43.000 You can, if there's a fire. 1.00

00:46:45.000 The line is very simple.

00:46:46.000 You can't lie.

00:46:47.000 You have a responsibility to tell the truth.

00:46:48.000 So things like libel, slander, those are actionable offenses.

00:46:52.000 You cannot use your freedom of speech to deliberately lie to harm somebody else.

00:46:57.000 And outside of that, that's it.

00:46:58.000 That doesn't include nasty words or jokes that offend.

00:47:01.000 It's deliberately lying to cause harm, physical or reputation-wise, to someone else.

00:47:06.000 Outside of that, What do you think of the argument that they're going to basically leave people like us with no choice other than to take legal action against specific people?

00:47:18.000 So, for example, you will find no videos of me slandering and libeling people, right?

00:47:25.000 Either verbally or written.

00:47:26.000 You won't find that.

00:47:27.000 But there are tons of people that every day call me a white supremacist, call me a Nazi.

00:47:30.000 I mean, I grew up around Holocaust survivors.

00:47:33.000 Like, try to imagine the level of insanity of this.

00:47:35.000 Or the horrible things that they say about you.

00:47:37.000 I don't know that I've ever seen you attack any specific person with any of that kind of vitriol.

00:47:43.000 We need jokes.

00:47:44.000 We need jokes.

00:47:45.000 You know what happens to a society that can't joke?

00:47:49.000 violence. I mean, that's what happens. You start killing each other. Jokes are a way of

00:47:52.000 illuminating a little bit of truth so that we can all sort of feel the same thing. So the idea,

00:47:57.000 well, all right, we're not going to do, you know, Family Guy actually is the right example,

00:48:00.000 because about a year ago, the producers said that they weren't going to do gay jokes anymore. I

00:48:04.000 don't know if they've actually followed through with that.

00:48:07.000 But it's like, once you say, all right, we're not going to do gay jokes. 0.95

00:48:09.000 Well, are you going to do black jokes? 0.94

00:48:11.000 Because you've been doing that for 20 years. 0.97

00:48:12.000 You've been doing Jew jokes for 20 years. 1.00

00:48:13.000 You've been doing Muslim jokes for 20 years and white people jokes. 0.93

00:48:16.000 Once you start pinning everybody up and we're not going to make fun of these people, you're actually saying that group is the other and they deserve special treatment.

00:48:25.000 And that's not good for them or for you or for a functioning society in any way.

00:48:29.000 No, I think you're correct.

00:48:30.000 Let me ask this, just a ballpark.

00:48:31.000 How effective has your channel been as a percentage of your videos would you say like demonetized compared to maybe let's say four or five years ago?

00:48:38.000 Been a significant uptick?

00:48:40.000 Well, it's all over the place.

00:48:41.000 So I don't know specifically.

00:48:43.000 I just tweeted out this morning that our rev is off by about 66% since March.

00:48:49.000 Okay, so there you go.

00:48:50.000 So 66%.

00:48:50.000 So here's my issue is the dishonest business practices, right?

00:48:54.000 YouTube courted someone like you.

00:48:56.000 They said, we want you here.

00:48:58.000 We're going to make you a part of our partner program.

00:49:00.000 Whatever you made, you know, they made many, many, many fold more, right?

00:49:03.000 They made it off the backs of content creators.

00:49:04.000 YouTube never created any content.

00:49:06.000 So my issue is with them saying, hey, Dave Rubin, we know at this point, There could have been other options as they were coming up.

00:49:11.000 They said, we know there are other options.

00:49:12.000 We want to pay you to create content for our website.

00:49:15.000 We want YouTube to be your home.

00:49:16.000 And because of you doing that, for your loyalty, we are going to split the revenue with you.

00:49:21.000 Okay, great.

00:49:22.000 And then when they grow big enough, they try to cut you off at the knees.

00:49:26.000 To me, that's a dishonest business practice.

00:49:29.000 It's not about necessarily even corporate censorship.

00:49:32.000 If they're clear about the rules, no one, you know, this thing happened this week where no one is still entirely clear.

00:49:38.000 About whether we were completely demonetized and booted, if it was due to a shirt.

00:49:41.000 They couldn't give us an answer.

00:49:43.000 No one understands the rules.

00:49:45.000 And I think the simple version is following the law.

00:49:47.000 Yeah, I mean, look, that's why perhaps legal action is going to be necessary, and it would suck for people like us to have to be involved in that.

00:49:56.000 It would really, as I said, it would push me to really the limits of what my belief in freedom and liberty is all about.

00:50:03.000 But they may leave us with no choice.

00:50:06.000 But at the end of the day, look, we don't have to be on this platform But we do, we do do something where we want to get our message out there.

00:50:13.000 And there's other ways we can do it through podcasts and bit shoot and all sorts of other things.

00:50:17.000 And I think there, you know, you've got to stay smart and figure out what business model works for you and the rest of it.

00:50:22.000 But the point is, this isn't that they're doing something across the board. 0.90

00:50:25.000 We know who they're, you're drinking the coffee in a gay way. 1.00

00:50:30.000 No, I'm drinking it. 0.88

00:50:31.000 You said business model.

00:50:32.000 See, that was a little bit of a... I was alluding.

00:50:38.000 I can't believe that you said that.

00:50:39.000 Why would you throw that out at all? 0.99

00:50:43.000 Most gay people use straws. 1.00

00:50:44.000 Continue. 0.98

00:50:47.000 Because they're a tidy people, I assume.

00:50:49.000 I don't know.

00:50:51.000 Crowder, do you ever hear of a comedian known as Don Rickles from the old days?

00:50:54.000 Yes.

00:50:55.000 You know, the Don Rickles used to go up in front of a crowd and he'd talk about the Chinaman over there and the black guy over there and the Jew over there and the wasp over there and the rest of it.

00:51:02.000 And guess what everyone did?

00:51:03.000 Everyone laughed and walked out of there feeling equal.

00:51:07.000 Imagine if he was like, there was one group I just wasn't going to touch.

00:51:11.000 That would actually, that would be twisted and that would be bigotry.

00:51:14.000 Right.

00:51:15.000 So these guys, the bigger issue, of course, is that we know they're coming after you.

00:51:20.000 They're coming after me.

00:51:21.000 The line just keeps moving. 0.60

00:51:22.000 And I'm not even going to go into the amount of crazy far left YouTube channels out there that say all sorts of evil stuff and go on and on against Christians and white men and all the all the terrible stuff that they're doing all the time.

00:51:34.000 Right.

00:51:35.000 And we know those guys are going to be safe.

00:51:36.000 So yeah, we got to figure out how to be smarter here.

00:51:40.000 Well, I appreciate it, and I do appreciate the kind words and support.

00:51:43.000 And you know what?

00:51:43.000 I would never make a joke about you being lispy, because there's no truth to it.

00:51:46.000 You actually speak more clearly.

00:51:48.000 I wonder, you and Andrew Klavan, you have like a natural broadcaster voice.

00:51:51.000 You talk here, it is Dave Rube.

00:51:52.000 Well, actually, here's one thing.

00:51:53.000 Whenever I do, whenever I do, uh, not impressions, whenever I reference, whenever...

00:51:58.000 No, my Dave Rubin is more like this.

00:52:00.000 It's very sort of enunciated, and when he talks, it's very almost labored in that he's very thoughtful in his approach.

00:52:07.000 Whenever I talk about somebody or I'm saying that somebody made a statement, I invariably do an impression.

00:52:13.000 I don't even mean to.

00:52:14.000 I couldn't not do an impression like this when talking about the Vox guy.

00:52:18.000 I've never done that.

00:52:18.000 I couldn't.

00:52:18.000 It's natural.

00:52:19.000 I've done an impression of you inadvertently when I mention, like, yeah, Dave Rubin and I were talking, and I go into that.

00:52:23.000 It's just a natural thing I've done since I was a kid.

00:52:26.000 But also we should note that this guy, his Twitter handle has the word gay in it.

00:52:31.000 So he's putting it out there as if it's part of something and then it's like you can't...

00:52:36.000 You can't say to you, well, you can't reference that, that very thing that you're making such a part of your identity.

00:52:42.000 You know what I mean?

00:52:43.000 And it's such a small portion too.

00:52:44.000 That's the thing.

00:52:45.000 I appreciate it because I know a lot of conservatives tried to, you know, they got scared at first and then now it's not just conservatives.

00:52:50.000 Everyone has jumped in, every original content creator, because they know it's coming for them.

00:52:54.000 But it really is one of those scenarios where, yeah, listen, it's maybe 2%, 2% of 2% of our content.

00:52:59.000 Two percent of our content is a Vox rebuttal, and two percent of that is making fun of the guy.

00:53:03.000 We actually provide resources, uh, and information when we try and rebut it.

00:53:07.000 Okay, we do have to get going, so on Twitter is at RubinReport, as well as on YouTube.

00:53:12.000 And, uh, Senior Rubin, thank you so much.

00:53:13.000 Please go back to the Angry Gay Mafia and let them know that, uh, just tell them you don't like me. 0.91

00:53:17.000 Put it on me. 0.99

00:53:18.000 Guys, two powders to homo. 1.00

00:53:20.000 Oh, ah!

00:53:21.000 T-Pole, T-Pole, this is Bertie.

00:53:24.000 Oh, whoa.

00:53:29.000 Oh, baby.

00:53:31.000 you you

00:53:35.000 Sir, my name is Chief Crowder, and these here are the, uh... Mug Club Z's. 0.98

00:53:39.000 Crowder with Crowder.

00:53:40.000 Late night comedy at Salvation South.

00:53:43.000 We hear you might have a plan for us, sir.

00:53:45.000 We hear that you pay your money to sing into a can.

00:53:48.000 Sir, we are a company.

00:53:52.000 Well, that's all except our... All except for our... All except our half-Asian lawyer standing in the corner over here who plays the guitar.

00:54:03.000 Have a show in constant sorrow It's ain't trouble out at stake

00:54:12.000 It's what works for a day or more Susan Wojcicki deemed our content right

00:54:22.000 And demonetized Oh, Lord, oh, Lord.

00:54:37.000 So, but before we do any of that, I've got two things for you guys.

00:54:42.000 One is- He's a one trick pony.

00:54:44.000 He's just like Dave Rubin, for a number of reasons.

00:54:47.000 He's not smart, he's not funny, he's not talented. 1.00

00:54:51.000 You're pathetic, you're a loser, and people should laugh at you. 1.00

00:54:54.000 Unfortunately, the best way to deal with it is to, I mean, you have to ignore him. 1.00

00:55:02.000 Here comes the big announcement.

00:55:04.000 But the one final thing that I will say to just kind of solidify my point.

00:55:09.000 Live on weekday, 6 to 8 p.m.

00:55:11.000 Eastern.

00:55:12.000 Don't miss out on the young turd.

00:55:15.000 I'm going to be doing a video on how to make a new game.

00:55:18.000 I'll be doing a video on how to make a new game.

00:56:01.000 Stop playing games with your personal protection.

00:56:04.000 Try the Walther today.

00:56:06.000 See what I did there with the stop playing games?

00:56:10.000 Walther's happy about it.

00:56:12.000 This is a video of Walther's car.

00:56:14.000 He's driving a car.

00:56:26.000 I'm totally fine.

00:56:54.000 I'm an aquatic mammal.

00:56:55.000 That's right.

00:56:56.000 You are an aquatic mammal.

00:56:57.000 I just built a dam.

00:56:58.000 I couldn't really tell that you were a beaver.

00:57:00.000 They've gotten really crappy with the costumes for purchase.

00:57:03.000 Thank you, Dave Rubin, by the way.

00:57:04.000 Thanks, Dave Rubin.

00:57:05.000 Leaf.

00:57:06.000 Leaf.

00:57:06.000 Least.

00:57:07.000 Gosh, I really am off today.

00:57:08.000 I've slept very little. 0.96

00:57:09.000 Least lispy gay guy ever. 1.00

00:57:10.000 Hey, look at this. 0.65

00:57:13.000 I don't know what the... Can someone answer me this, since it's cultural appropriation in Canada?

00:57:16.000 I keep asking that question.

00:57:17.000 Can someone ask me why they would put that there?

00:57:19.000 I was like, what is it for?

00:57:19.000 I was wearing it earlier.

00:57:20.000 Was it like because some guy who had rickets was self-conscious and so everyone did it in solidarity?

00:57:25.000 Yeah, no!

00:57:25.000 Yeah, together.

00:57:26.000 It looks great like that!

00:57:27.000 Hey! 0.99

00:57:28.000 Tommy, I wish I had rickets!

00:57:30.000 You're just saying that.

00:57:32.000 No, look!

00:57:33.000 Look!

00:57:33.000 I'll show it!

00:57:34.000 Hey, we both have rickets!

00:57:37.000 I don't know.

00:57:37.000 What's the reason for it?

00:57:38.000 I don't know.

00:57:39.000 Franstein said it makes space in the pants when they're sitting and riding horses or something.

00:57:44.000 Well, did their chairs not have any arms?

00:57:49.000 This is wildly inconvenient.

00:57:50.000 Everything about today is distracting.

00:57:53.000 Everything I'm wearing is itchy.

00:57:57.000 By the way, we have some super videos coming up, and also we're going to be gone for a couple of weeks, or three weeks, we're going to be actually here all the way through July 4th.

00:58:07.000 Yes.

00:58:08.000 Every day we have a special, an on-location special at an American History Museum, kind of taking some American History tidbits.

00:58:13.000 It's exciting, it's a little mini-series.

00:58:14.000 We have A Change My Mind coming around the 4th of July, and we have some super videos here in the hopper, some new Crater Confronts, some things that we can't necessarily talk about because we're working on them.

00:58:22.000 Maybe some phone calls that we're going to be making soon to some people who might have pissed me off a little bit.

00:58:29.000 What would you say, Court of Black Air, I'm putting you on the spot, has been the most surprising this week?

00:58:33.000 What would you say is your main takeaway?

00:58:35.000 I'm surprised that so many people, well, I'm surprised that so many people got demonetized.

00:58:41.000 Yeah.

00:58:42.000 YouTube just came out and just scorched earth everybody.

00:58:46.000 Yeah.

00:58:46.000 Doesn't matter who you are, what side you're on, you're gone.

00:58:49.000 It surprised a lot of people.

00:58:52.000 It surprised me a lot that everybody kind of banded together.

00:58:54.000 At least from, I woke up the next day and looked at all of my subscriptions, all the channels I watched, and they're all talking about it.

00:59:00.000 Small channels, big channels, everybody's talking about it.

00:59:03.000 I woke up today better than I felt yesterday.

00:59:06.000 Yeah.

00:59:06.000 And then I got on the phone with my lawyer and I was like, Oh, I gotta do this.

00:59:11.000 Because there's still a battle going on behind the scenes.

00:59:12.000 So, again, thank you.

00:59:13.000 The promo code will be good through the weekend.

00:59:15.000 $30 off, free speech for those who want to join Mug Club.

00:59:17.000 And there's a lot, we're doing a lot more content behind the paywall.

00:59:20.000 We might even need to put all of our shows that have the Socialism is for Figs shirt, where I even wear it. 0.73

00:59:24.000 Exclusive.

00:59:25.000 They might need to be exclusively behind the paywall because it won't be allowed on YouTube anymore.

00:59:28.000 So I wanted to talk about something here.

00:59:31.000 I think it's very appropriate in light of the current week.

00:59:35.000 And I think it's appropriate in maybe not the way that a lot of people think.

00:59:38.000 Bullying.

00:59:39.000 We've talked about it.

00:59:39.000 And usually you only hear about bullying when it involves some usually gay person who's in the nightly news because they were bullied in school.

00:59:46.000 By the way, I usually don't buy that. 1.00

00:59:49.000 You've got to be the stupidest person in the world to bully a gay or trans person in school. 1.00

00:59:54.000 As a matter of fact, I bet you they would say, like, hey, Timmy, what are you, gay? 1.00

00:59:57.000 Yeah. 0.92

00:59:57.000 I'm sorry. 0.92

00:59:58.000 I'm sorry.

00:59:58.000 Don't let the dean know.

00:59:59.000 I'm so sorry. 0.97

01:00:01.000 Whereas when I was a kid, I got called it all the time because I wasn't gay, but you know, I was a loser.

01:00:05.000 You can just find my pictures in high school. 0.57

01:00:07.000 I was bullied all the time.

01:00:08.000 What are you talking about now?

01:00:09.000 A little bit.

01:00:10.000 I feel like I don't get the respect in the office that I quite deserve, but you know what?

01:00:14.000 That just thems the brakes. 0.73

01:00:17.000 No one wants to go have hot dogs with a man who signs a front of checks.

01:00:20.000 I'll be fine.

01:00:28.000 But we're talking about bullying, because they've tried to accuse us of being bullies, and more generally conservatives of being bullies.

01:00:35.000 Here's the thing I would like to sort of posit.

01:00:38.000 The reason that bullying in high school is so unbearable, or in the workplace, for example, is because it's chronic, it's systemic.

01:00:45.000 If you have a bully in high school, or if you have a boss or a supervisor who's a bully, you still have to go in the next day.

01:00:52.000 And believe me, I get it.

01:00:53.000 I had days where I would just go to sleep and I'm like, oh, I don't want to wake up.

01:00:55.000 I know that sounds terrible.

01:00:56.000 I'm like, oh, I don't want to.

01:00:57.000 I just hate in my life going to school.

01:00:59.000 And a part of it was bullying.

01:01:00.000 A part of it was just I wasn't cut out for public school as we had in Canada.

01:01:03.000 But the real problem there is you have to face that bully every single day.

01:01:07.000 There's no way to get away from it.

01:01:09.000 That's a big defining factor for me and bullying.

01:01:13.000 Let's compare that to, for example, us doing a video, or a rebuttal here, where maybe 2% of the video is us making light or us making fun of somebody in a way that they don't like.

01:01:21.000 The thing is, that's not chronic.

01:01:23.000 That's not systemic.

01:01:23.000 You can shut it off.

01:01:25.000 You can change the channel or online.

01:01:27.000 You can just click on the next suggested video, which is probably Turtle Humping Work Boot, or Angry Cat, or Tranny Makeup Tutorials, Transy Makeup Tutorials.

01:01:35.000 Now we can't use any words.

01:01:37.000 They're all being banned retroactively.

01:01:38.000 Right?

01:01:39.000 You can change the channel.

01:01:40.000 Now compare that to, say, removing the ability for anyone of a political persuasion to be able to make a living.

01:01:49.000 Including the 12 to 15 people here at Loud Earth Critics.

01:01:52.000 Not myself, this is an entire team of people.

01:01:54.000 What's more chronic?

01:01:55.000 What's more systemic?

01:01:56.000 Who's the bully?

01:01:57.000 The person who does a video that is never even addressed to you?

01:02:00.000 And this is all conservatives out there, or the person who wants to make sure that they ruin everyone's life who's been involved with that video forevermore.

01:02:09.000 Or anyone who might even cover that video, even non-political channels, as you see with the adpocalypse.

01:02:13.000 People who just happen to cover it, we want you gone.

01:02:17.000 Some people were surprised at the apology video we issued.

01:02:20.000 You shouldn't be surprised though.

01:02:22.000 When you go back and you watch it, you're like, oh, that was, yeah, maybe a couple of those.

01:02:26.000 But they were actual jokes that have appeared in the show.

01:02:28.000 You shouldn't be surprised, though.

01:02:30.000 Why? That's how you deal with bullies. 0.98

01:02:33.000 I've seen a lot of conservatives.

01:02:34.000 Well, I'm the reasonable conservative.

01:02:36.000 No, listen.

01:02:37.000 You don't give in.

01:02:38.000 You have to push back from the very beginning.

01:02:41.000 Right away.

01:02:42.000 You give up no ground.

01:02:44.000 Unless you're wrong.

01:02:45.000 But if you know you're not wrong, you don't apologize.

01:02:49.000 And that's how we handle it.

01:02:50.000 And you know what?

01:02:50.000 A lot of people think that applies just to bullies, but I would say it applies to all high-pressure scenarios in life in general.

01:02:56.000 There are some people who are naturally kind of what we refer to as game-day players, right?

01:02:59.000 Some people are born with it, naturally under pressure.

01:03:02.000 They have another level, another switch.

01:03:04.000 My dad is that guy.

01:03:05.000 If you ever trained in a sport, you know some people was, let's say, Tarzan in the gym, Gene on the field.

01:03:10.000 There's some guys who are just unbelievable in training.

01:03:13.000 But they can't put it together when it comes to game day.

01:03:14.000 And then there's some guys who are kind of lackluster, you wouldn't pick out of a lineup, and then when it comes time to perform, boom, they're on it.

01:03:21.000 Some people need pressure to perform.

01:03:23.000 They need to see themselves bleed before they get their head in the mix.

01:03:26.000 And here's one thing I will say.

01:03:27.000 While I don't know that everyone on this team is a naturally born game day player, no one here And a lot of credit offices wilts under pressure.

01:03:37.000 And I said this to everyone, because I know I could see that people were scared in the office when I walked in.

01:03:41.000 It's why the attack from Vox, big media, it couldn't have happened to a more capable group of people.

01:03:46.000 Not talking about myself, because just how much you see Vox bitch about how behind the scenes, all the work they put in, it's not even close to what these people put in behind the scenes. 0.73

01:03:54.000 And all of the work that you don't see, that you don't know about, believe me, if you have someone on the front lines who you want fighting the bullshit right now, if I could handpick them, it would be the people who are in this room and the people who are in the green room watching. 0.85

01:04:07.000 We've had a lot, and I'll tell you this, we've had a lot of trial runs in those first couple of weeks at this company that don't work out.

01:04:12.000 There's about a two week, about a month mark, because it's a pressure cooker.

01:04:15.000 Things like this week happen.

01:04:17.000 It doesn't happen in most workplaces.

01:04:19.000 If they stick around after that, they're here.

01:04:22.000 Usually for a very, very long time.

01:04:24.000 Not everyone is born as a Game Date player, okay?

01:04:27.000 So let me be clear, because I know some people are saying, well, that's not me.

01:04:30.000 Everyone can become one.

01:04:33.000 Just like not everyone is born with the backbone to stand up to bullies, everyone can grow one.

01:04:39.000 I've seen it happen.

01:04:40.000 I've seen people in my high school who would wilt to bullies, and then they decided to grow a spine, never again.

01:04:45.000 I was that guy at one point.

01:04:47.000 I was the guy who walked away holding my jaw.

01:04:50.000 And then at a certain point I said, okay, That's not going to happen again.

01:04:55.000 So let me ask you this.

01:04:56.000 Is that something you'd like?

01:04:57.000 Does that sound like a skill set that's valuable to you?

01:05:00.000 To be in the heat, to be in the pressure cooker, to be in the pocket with someone right in your face, right in your grill, and to feel totally capable?

01:05:06.000 And by the way, notice I didn't say comfortable.

01:05:07.000 I said capable.

01:05:09.000 No one here at this team, no one, Who has a skill set that I'm talking about.

01:05:13.000 No one's comfortable with being part of a concerted assault, for example, from a billion-dollar media company.

01:05:18.000 No one.

01:05:18.000 Okay?

01:05:19.000 It's distinctly uncomfortable.

01:05:21.000 Yeah, everyone here puts on a good face, we laugh, we joke, but you know what?

01:05:23.000 There's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes.

01:05:25.000 It's distinctly scary.

01:05:27.000 But everyone here has rallied, okay?

01:05:28.000 And they've handled it very capably.

01:05:30.000 Every.

01:05:31.000 Single.

01:05:32.000 Person.

01:05:32.000 And not everyone here was always that way.

01:05:34.000 How does it happen?

01:05:35.000 It starts with being capable in the face of being uncomfortable.

01:05:39.000 And the only way to get to that point is to get familiar with being uncomfortable.

01:05:44.000 And how does that happen?

01:05:45.000 It's like building up calcium deposits on your bones.

01:05:48.000 You've seen boxers.

01:05:49.000 They do it with their hands. 0.96

01:05:50.000 They do it with their shins. 0.98

01:05:50.000 They actually build it up. 0.98

01:05:51.000 They just hit it with a little bit of a screwdriver.

01:05:53.000 That's something they commonly do.

01:05:55.000 Like a Pillsbury Doughboy roller.

01:05:56.000 I don't know.

01:05:56.000 Some kind of a roller.

01:05:57.000 I have no idea.

01:05:58.000 It's a rabbit trail.

01:05:58.000 It doesn't matter.

01:05:59.000 I'm tired. 1.00

01:05:59.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:06:00.000 The point is, it happens, though, over time. 1.00

01:06:03.000 Right?

01:06:04.000 Getting used to a little impact, getting used to the grind, getting used to the nicks, the bruises, getting used to being hungry, getting used to being tired, getting used to feeling disoriented.

01:06:12.000 All of that has happened this week.

01:06:14.000 And if you do it enough, if you do it consistently, if you stop avoiding anything other than your creature comforts at all costs, eventually you will find yourself capable of, when in the thick of it, being able to slow down, Breathe, take inventory, accept the stress of a moment, the rush, the chaos, navigate what you need to do.

01:06:32.000 You will become a game day player.

01:06:34.000 And by the way, this isn't self-help advice.

01:06:36.000 I don't like that term because it's narcissistic.

01:06:40.000 But it's very nature.

01:06:41.000 This isn't about loving yourself or feeling good about what you see in the mirror.

01:06:44.000 What good would that do anyone here in the face of the adpocalypse if they look in the mirror and say, well, you know what?

01:06:47.000 I got mine.

01:06:48.000 That doesn't help anybody.

01:06:49.000 That's not what this is about.

01:06:50.000 It's about helping others.

01:06:51.000 Because guess what?

01:06:52.000 Once you're capable of handling the pressure cooker, once you're the person who's capable in the face of the uncomfortable, you can now be the person who helps those that aren't.

01:07:02.000 You can help them to lean on you.

01:07:04.000 You can bear the weight, not for yourself, but for others.

01:07:07.000 Because guess what?

01:07:08.000 Improving yourself, yeah, that's great.

01:07:09.000 Of course you should.

01:07:10.000 But carrying your own weight is not an accomplishment.

01:07:13.000 It's the bare minimum.

01:07:15.000 Getting to where you can burden the weight of others, that's something special.

01:07:19.000 And let me tell you, there are a lot of people out there.

01:07:21.000 There's the burden, there's the weight of a lot of people.

01:07:24.000 A lot of unseen people, a lot of smaller channels don't necessarily have the platforms that we do or that you do.

01:07:28.000 And that's why I call everyone out there right now in the face of this who's been affected, who sees it happening, there's this moment in time to do something.

01:07:37.000 If you are capable in the face of being uncomfortable right now, it's your duty to help burden the weight of others.

01:07:43.000 And I'll see you there.

01:07:44.000 Hopefully that helps.

Louder with Crowder - June 07, 2019

#498 WE'RE DEMONETIZED! | Dave Rubin & The HodgeTwins Guest | Louder with Crowder

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