Every week, another scandal involving Rudy Giuliani. This week, it involves some of the most incredible headlines right now, including a man who's actually in a wheelchair, and a woman who thinks she's a walrus. Plus, the New York Times' new 1619 project, and Spike Lee's new documentary about the United States being built on slavery and genocide.
00:05:03.000I think that's a gross violation of the special needs labor laws.
00:05:09.000We have Brian Callan on the show today.
00:05:12.000We're going to be talking about the New York Times' new 1619 project, and Spike Lee, and the idea that the United States was built on slavery, racism, and genocide.
00:06:59.000The former actress, this comes to us from people, so you know it's reliable, the former actress stated she had not had the two abortions had she not, sorry, life would be completely lacking all its great joys, and she, quote, would never have been able To be free to be myself.
00:08:30.000Another top story, by the way, it appears that President Trump, this was all over the news, he's growing increasingly frustrated with Fox News.
00:08:37.000This comes from Politico after some critical coverage, unfavorable poll numbers from what used to be his preferred network.
00:08:42.000The president said, there's something going on.
00:08:45.000Fox has changed and I'm not happy with it.
00:08:48.000So it's gotten worse over the week, with a source actually telling us that, I think an aide, with a source it's usually just an aide.
00:08:57.000An unnamed aide, but apparently an aide did tell President Trump that if you want something done right, and he took the advice, do it yourself.
00:09:06.000Hi, President Trump, and welcome to the real no-spin zone.
00:09:10.000Okay, frankly, I have not been very happy with this network.
00:09:14.000They've said that it's no-spin, but there has honestly been so much spin.
00:11:22.000Namely ones that revolve around boobs.
00:11:26.000That's pretty much the only possibility.
00:11:28.000Switching gears now to the race for the White House, Elizabeth Warren addressed a Native American forum talking about her past transgressions, admitting that she had made some mistakes.
00:12:46.000So, another news of the state of California is, and by the way, we're going to be talking about New York Times, slavery, genocide, Spike Lee, notorious anti-Semite, but we're going to California here.
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00:13:14.000Officials in California are hoping this will fix both their endangered species problem, as well as their annoying cyclist pandemic.
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00:13:24.000You have people shitting That's how you solve it.
00:14:10.000Any description of the assailant was completely omitted from the reporting, which made it difficult for the police sketch artist, but he gave it the old college try.
00:15:09.000A town in Wales is installing $200,000 anti-sex toilets.
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00:16:48.000He married a woman whose father had a dojo and was retiring, and then he married Kelly LeBrock while he was married to this Japanese woman.
00:17:13.000Trivia contest winner, by the way, before we get to the $69,000 is Regina C, I don't have her last name, who correctly identified that her former office used to be a massage parlor.
00:18:02.000It's a project from the New York Times, and it's designed to write a series of pieces showing that everything, basically the basis of America, is the result of slavery, genocide, all of it.
00:18:14.000And they've got a number of high-profile celebrities, from Spike Lee to Oprah, trying to promote it.
00:18:18.000Now, some leaked internal discussions actually show the decision was made to shift the narrative away from the failed Russia story.
00:18:24.000So now they're going, Russia didn't work, let's pivot back to racist.
00:18:27.000After Mueller failed to find any collusion, the editor-in-chief, New York Times, supposedly at a loss how to cover Trump, so he decided, all right, let's just paint all of America's history as racist and say it's more racist now than ever.
00:18:39.000It's more racist now than slavery because Trump.
00:19:03.000Do you feel like you've been marginalized more?
00:19:07.000My white part has been more marginalized, yes, that's for sure.
00:19:11.000Look, there's no question that slavery is a part of our history as a country.
00:19:15.000Whether it defines the nation, and to say that is to say that every person who was a part of it... Oh, did you fight as part of the Union Army?
00:19:25.000You must have also been part of slavery as well.
00:19:27.000I mean, there's no nuance to it, other than just to say, hey, I don't want you to forget, every one of you is a piece of s**t. I mean, that's essentially, that's this tagline of 1619, right?
00:19:37.000Everything you enjoy should taste like a**hole!
00:19:42.000You can use that argument for everything, right?
00:19:44.000There's a sore spot, you still can't ride the Amtrak.
00:19:46.000Yeah, but it makes the assumption that the United States would not have been a great country without slavery.
00:19:51.000So we had all the natural resources, we had great navigable rivers, which turns out to be very important, and we had a great system of government that was growing while... Actually, Matt, we could do a whole segment on this if people go back through the archives, where actually the South was hindered by slavery.
00:20:05.000If you look at the economic developments that happened in the North, it didn't happen in the South, and that's because slave labor doesn't tend to put in... they're not burning the candle at both ends, and they're not necessarily doing an honest job.
00:20:14.000And I'm not saying that This is important to you.
00:20:16.000Because so much, we're not taught this in school.
00:21:08.000Wow, I must... Spike Lee, tell me more.
00:21:10.000Is it my meds, or does that sound... Well, the good thing is he's going to be telling you a whole lot more.
00:21:14.000Question number two today, who did not learn about slavery in school?
00:21:18.000I think a lot of people aren't taught that we are uniquely responsible for ending slavery in a lot of ways in the modern world, but let's go to the next clip.
00:21:25.000This country, United States of America, was built upon the genocide of Native people and slavery.
00:21:49.000Native Americans, one thing people don't understand, They were mostly wiped, we've talked about this so many times, I'm sorry I have to repeat it, they were wiped out through diseases that the settlers brought, inadvertently, because these people had not developed an immunity to them.
00:21:59.000Out of the, I think, 250,000 natives, Columbus' first stop, right, in one of the Americas, Hispaniola, I should do the, uh, Brian Calano, teach me how to pronounce that later.
00:22:07.000New diseases wiped out over 230,000 of the indigenous people by 1517.
00:22:11.000That's nearly 95% of their population.
00:22:14.000A big part of that, by the way, they hadn't domesticated the horse.
00:22:18.000This idea, if you're coming into contact with a domesticated horse for the first time, this whole idea of bow and arrow, horseback culture, it's a lie.
00:22:23.000They hadn't domesticated the horse and they didn't use the wheel.
00:22:35.000I mean part of it is like this is the part where again we've talked about this before where there's there's just a lack of nuance when you go to the 1619 project and all you want to focus on is one part of history that involves slavery to use that to push a political agenda today right yeah then then you've ignored the fact that sure was slavery part of our history did slavery You know, set certain things in motion in this country and some would argue it still has some reverberating effects to this point.
00:22:59.000I think we just disagree on how much effect it still has today and what needs to be dealt with it.
00:23:05.000Same with the Native American population.
00:23:06.000I mean, there's unquestionably atrocities occurred, but to say it's only atrocities is to ignore the rest of the history.
00:23:13.000What I have a problem with is the term genocide.
00:24:26.000He enlisted the help of other native tribes.
00:24:28.000We tossed them some fire water and said, listen, These guys have been enslaving you to collect their gold for centuries.
00:24:33.000How about you try the guys with the metal hats?
00:24:37.000Well, and when we show up and we have kind of peaceful relationships with some tribes and then we start to move, you guys were already warring.
00:24:43.000What you're really doing is basically saying we're really pissed off that when you came in, you were better at war than we were.
00:24:49.000We were already trying to take each other's land and I was succeeding and now you kicked my butt and I'm really pissed about that.
00:24:56.000Here's what I will have to say is that if you jump in and you ask the question of, did we have a right to come in and take this land?
00:25:03.000I don't necessarily know that there's any particular more or less right between The people who are already here, is it a first mover's right?
00:25:09.000I mean, that's the part where the narrative falls apart when you hear people say, well, these were the indigenous people.
00:25:15.000Oh, okay, so we don't care about the indigenous species that were here before those indigenous people came here.
00:27:17.000All Muslims were never banned from the United States.
00:27:18.000What you're talking about is an immigration ban on seven countries that were identified as countries of concern from Barack Obama, and they were put on a temporary ban.
00:27:26.000By the way, Trump enforced it for 90 days.
00:27:27.000Obama enforced it for six months with Iraq.
00:27:39.000Like, obviously he's being disingenuous a little bit here, but he could have at least just sort of curbed his language by just saying, you know, he said that Mexicans are rapists.
00:27:49.000Instead, he said, saying all Mexicans are rapists.
00:27:52.000You're just making it too easy, sweetheart.
00:28:31.000Now he goes on to the one that they paired a lot, that Donald Trump, his justification, along with all Mexicans are rapists and the Muslim ban, is that he praised neo-Nazis, to hear Spike Lee tell it.
00:28:40.000He can't make a decision between What's white and wrong?
00:28:50.000I mean, that quote, that's going to be attached to him.
00:28:55.000He's going to be on the wrong side of history.
00:28:57.000And that's the first thing they're going to say, that quote.
00:28:59.000It's interesting because there's a lot, there's now a movement among some Republicans to kind of rewrite the history of what the president said.
00:29:10.000Yes, we are attempting to rewrite history by simply showing a clip of Donald Trump condemning neo-Nazis in his own words.
00:29:17.000And you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally, but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists.
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00:32:11.000Next clip talking, now we go directly to the KKK with Damon and Spike Lee.
00:32:15.000They're not even hiding is You know, at least the KKK people are too cowards to actually show their face.
00:32:21.000Because the guy in the White House gave him the dog whistles, like, come on out!
00:32:26.000So, our guys in the White House, so we're good!
00:32:29.000I don't think that's how a dog whistle works.
00:33:01.000I think what we should know is remember from that clip with Trump where he was condemning the neo-nazis and the white nationalists and then it wasn't just enough to do it once but he did it again and so after doing it twice I definitely got the read between the lines is I love neo-nazis and white nationalists.
00:33:16.000That was what I mean that's what I got.
00:33:36.000Actually, it's almost turning all the way around.
00:33:38.000All of these examples can be easily debunked with a quick Google search or a clip just as quickly as the 77 cents on the dollar pay gap myth.
00:33:46.000So if it's so obvious, why is this even a question anymore?
00:33:48.000Well, because you've brought no evidence.
00:35:15.000And it would have been a little bit more, you know, circumstantial to be able to say, oh, you know, this is actually an attack on uh... trying to change voting minds away from the president because the upcoming election and coincidentally just at the timing of everything we couldn't have done it any other time between now and sixteen nineteen but this was the year we were going to do it at this very moment in history but that is the part that i appreciate is that uh... the glasses lay low for four centuries and then bring out the guy who did do the right thing!
00:35:45.000I mean, that's the part where you go, hey, yeah, thank you, I appreciate you letting us know that this is just a thinly veiled political move.
00:35:52.000Everything that we believe the left to be, that they kind of veiled for a long time, you know, kind of like, okay, you know what, a little bit of sleight of hand, now they're just doing out in the open.
00:35:59.000And I think there is a silver lining there, because now people, like for the longest time, really up until Donald Trump, people thought CNN was legitimate news.
00:36:49.000We're going to go through all this stuff.
00:36:51.000And so Black Lives Matter comes out of this movement, right?
00:36:54.000And so you have this huge, this massive overreach of Black Lives Matter, trying to make people think that every white person in America doesn't think that your life matters, especially police officers, even though it was black police officers involved in some of these incidents, right?
00:37:07.000And so there's this massive overreach.
00:37:09.000What happens typically when there's a massive overreach by one side in one of these things, right?
00:37:28.000I'm saying it has allowed that to happen because all of a sudden, all these guys who are kind of hiding in the shadows are like, what the hell's going on over here?
00:37:36.000These guys are out overreaching and now public sentiment is against that.
00:37:38.000And by the way, Barack Obama certainly did not condemn Black Lives Matter as emphatically as Donald Trump has condemned neo-Nazis, white supremacists.
00:37:53.000I'm saying that if we use these same standards, we have to look at him in the same lens you're looking at Trump, he would be looked at as potentially being a racist person against black people.
00:38:00.000Well, the idea, though, is that you cannot—maybe black people can be discriminatory, but they can't be racist because they're not in a position of the systemic powers that be, like the presidential office.
00:38:11.000One real quick point is I don't want this to be a message where because Spike Lee and some of the folks who are at the top of the 1619 project That there's a denial of slavery and its impact on those people, or even people in the generations afterwards.
00:38:29.000And this is the important part, is that if you're out there trying to think about how to intelligently talk to someone, either who's confused about what it is, or someone on the other side that's trying to say, oh, you know, this is what the project is, don't bury your head.
00:40:07.000Either Spike Lee, you're too stupid to be representative of this movement and this project, or you are lying in order to leverage this to don't vote for Donald Trump.
00:40:47.000Spike Lee wouldn't go out and spout this if Anderson Cooper, before he went on it, like, anytime we talk about this before the show, we go through a show map and one of us has a point that we're not quite sure, we go, ooh, I don't think that's the strongest point.
00:40:57.000Anderson Cooper could have at least done Spike Lee a favor and went, you know, like, I'm gonna talk about how he said all Mexicans are rapists.
00:41:04.000Anderson Cooper could have said, oh, wait, wait, wait, he didn't say all.
00:41:07.000Remove the word all, but instead he's like, yes, absolutely!
00:41:10.000No jump in, no real quick, hey, you know, we should stick to facts here.
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00:47:03.000But before that, you know, I know you've talked with a lot of people on air, sort of conspiracy theorists, and you've been somewhat the voice of reason.
00:47:11.000I'm not, I don't want to say somewhat, you've been the voice of reason.
00:47:13.000I don't know why I was giving myself an out there to give you some kind of a day man and a backhanded insult.
00:47:27.000My thing is, my only The problem with conspiracies is you're giving people way more credit for being that organized, that gutsy, and for being able to keep their mouth shut.
00:47:38.000I mean, in Washington, trying to keep a secret is impossible because everybody's got their own agenda.
00:47:45.000And it's just like putting a bunch of people in a room.
00:47:48.000Everybody is more ambitious than the next person.
00:47:51.000And if you can kind of expose, but Johnson was so angry at not being able to keep a secret, You know, some of the Johnson tapes, he's like, I'm gonna put a one eyed, I'm gonna put a blind or a one eyed farmer in charge of my defense, the Secretary of Defense, because I can't keep a secret.
00:48:07.000And I'm calling the editor of the Chicago Sun and begging him not to run an article because I've been, we had this whole cabinet meeting, and you guys are leaking information.
00:48:16.000So in terms of a conspiracy Gun to your head.
00:48:46.000Do you think they've played a role in someone maybe disappearing inconveniently?
00:48:52.000I think if it was politically expedient for Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton, I do think that they have a rather fluid moral compass, if you will.
00:49:49.000It'd be difficult to get people to sustain that loyalty, take that kind of a risk.
00:49:54.000I think in Washington, but when we're talking about a lot of it, you know, we're talking about local politics in Arkansas before Washington, and sometimes it's not necessarily directly involved.
00:50:00.000But listen, I just, I ask because, okay, so I'm not crazy.
00:50:04.000That's the one thing where I look at the evidence, I go, I'm not saying, listen, that Bill Clinton made a phone call to Redbird Flies Tonight and Epstein all of a sudden breaks his neck on a paper bed sheet.
00:50:14.000But the totality of evidence makes me... Well, here's a conspiracy theory.
00:50:20.000I think in today's world it's much easier to destroy someone's reputation.
00:50:24.000You don't need to go through the process of killing somebody.
00:50:27.000What you want to do is figure out a way to destroy their reputation.
00:50:31.000Dig up old tweets, dig up things they've said, start a rumor, and you can very easily erase them from the competition. That's all you need to do. So it used
00:50:42.000to be in a Machiavellian sort of sense, you figure out a way to get your hit squad to take that guy
00:50:46.000out. Don't need to do that so much. A little too messy. Nowadays, it's all about, you know,
00:50:52.000reputation, you know, just erasing someone's reputation, just destroying somebody. That's true. And that
00:50:57.000means the Epstein thing, I have a theory on the Epstein. You want to hear a conspiracy theory on the
00:51:00.000Epstein thing? Sure. I'm not entirely sure. We had Alex Jones on the show, you know, for
00:51:08.000Mug Club members who talked about the Alex Epstein, so I'm a little bit shell-shocked, but
00:51:13.000No, no, the only thing I would say is it would make sense if you said he was a Mossad agent.
00:51:19.000And that he had this island in this plane and the idea was to get very powerful men in compromising situations where they were having sex with young women.
00:51:28.000Now you got videotape and you can get some leverage.
00:51:30.000So a foreign government would find interest in getting people, whoever they might be, different dignitaries and things and getting political leverage.
00:51:39.000I guess that's something I could I could maybe get on board with.
00:52:28.000You're filling in the gaps with Starkist at that point.
00:52:31.000Yes, but now again, by the way, the one thing I know of being around fairly, you know, as you get older, your friends, people get successful, you meet successful people with a lot of money.
00:53:51.000And I understand some arguments on that side in the sense that, like, I've known people who've gone to... I shouldn't say, no, but I've had people... known people who've known people who've gone to jail because they're 19 and their girlfriend was 17, and then they break up.
00:54:12.000Here's what I want to do, because I said I was going to throw you a curveball.
00:54:14.000Now this whole thing has been about conspiracies.
00:54:16.000What we're going to do is go to a web extended for people who have not joined up at Mug Club, and we're going to get into a little bit more about firearms and Dan Gable and wrestling.
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00:57:23.000Something that I guess I would like to talk about, because it comes up quite a bit when we're At live shows, or we do the Life Advice Behind the Paywall.
00:58:57.000And it broke, so it sounds more impressive.
00:58:59.000But it was because things got delayed, and I was sitting there in that holding pattern.
00:59:05.000And I think a lot of people live their life in that holding pattern, thinking that the event or what they need to accomplish, what you need to accomplish, is scarier than it is.
00:59:14.000This is something I've learned about myself, and you let me know if you've experienced this.
00:59:17.000Prepare, set a plan, pull the trigger.
00:59:22.000Your mind is really your own worst enemy when it comes to these things.
00:59:24.000Usually what you fear, what you build up in your mind, sitting in the tarmac, waiting, the anticipation is far worse than what actually happens.
00:59:33.000I've just felt things really deeply this way.
00:59:34.000When I was a kid, I would get dizzy Christmas Eve before Christmas morning.
00:59:39.000I would go absolutely nuts because I would anticipate it in a positive way.
00:59:43.000On the flip side of that coin, before every show was the exact same.
00:59:46.000Before every single competition, I would feel like I was going to throw up.
01:00:26.000Another difference between injuries, between things that you need to take, you need to take inventory of this and understand, okay, pull it back, and an ouchie.
01:00:33.000That's another reason, by the way, in itself to get off of the tarmac, to get out of the holding pattern.
01:00:37.000Ouchies are actually kind of a good thing.
01:00:39.000Nicks and bruises, those are good things because those experiences, they toughen you up so you don't get a serious injury.
01:00:45.000It's the same reason you go to the gym and you're sore right when you start working out and you're getting stronger, but oh my gosh, it's miserable, but you're doing that so that you don't throw your back out when you lift your kid up.
01:00:54.000You're trying to get stronger in the gym, in a controlled environment where you can challenge yourself and just pull that Trigger.
01:02:49.000What you fear, the unknown, just like a monster movie, the unknown, living in that holding pattern, it's undoubtedly worse than what is most likely to happen, even in a worst case scenario.