Tim Pool joins Jemele to talk about the Equality Act, Bernie Sanders' praise of China, and the new rule book. Plus, Gerald B. is back from back surgery, and Bill and Jemele are joined by special guest Bill Richman.
00:00:06.000I'm going to be playing a little bit of this song.
00:02:09.000You know, I was doing the Mr. Olympia most muscular pose and I hit my finger on the mute button and then I remembered that I had a mute button!
00:02:25.000But it's not so bad because we don't have Gerald today with us.
00:02:27.000Okay, we have Tim Pool on the show today.
00:02:30.000And for those who are not members of Mug Club, then we have an extended like 30 minutes behind the paywall because we can't talk about the stuff on YouTube.
00:02:35.000Question of the day before I introduce everyone else.
00:02:37.000I used to dig Taylor Swift, was a fan.
00:03:31.000But top story before any of that, Bernie Sanders this week praised China, you know them, China's leadership in a recent interview.
00:03:39.000Bernie, this comes from Washington Examiner, Bernie said that China and its leadership have made more progress in addressing extreme poverty than any country in the history of civilization and have done a lot of things for their people.
00:04:01.000You know, it's pretty easy when you go from, well, we're just going to murder 100,000 less people here of the poorest citizens, and oh, look at the progress!
00:04:26.000I think we have the overlay from Forbes.
00:04:28.000So the reduction in poverty in China, it directly correlates to them opening up their markets, even though it's not really a free market economy anymore.
00:05:59.000According to divorce papers, the cheating spouse told her he was having an affair with the congresswoman, then made a shocking declaration of love for Omar before he ditched his current wife.
00:07:08.000So the corporation known for, you know, Mr. Potato Head, the Power Rangers toy line announced that they will join forces with the label most known for West Coast, very important to note, West Coast Gangsta Rap.
00:07:18.000The company is attempting a brand rollout actually by Christmas now with the new Suge Knight Ruxpin.
00:07:23.000What's wrong with little Quarter Black?
00:07:35.000I'm gonna beat the dog s*** out of you.
00:07:38.000If a n***a tellin' you that the police didn't do it, they a punk-ass n***a. So if you ask me if I know who killed Tupac, I'm the n***a that said, hey, absolutely not.
00:08:31.000I've always said this, like, when I retire, when I don't do this show anymore, I want to be the Suge Knight without the felonies of conservative media.
00:08:37.000I want to be the guy who can help support other conservatives, you know, if you have good shows that you want to pitch, you know, eventually we'll end up producing that and maybe I'll hang vanilla ice over a balcony.
00:08:47.000We all aspire to that level of success.
00:08:52.000Continuing with music-related news, the MTV Music Video Awards were this week, which we'll get to, obviously, because Taylor Swift a little later in the Equality Act, but former NSYNC member Lance Bass showed up in a pink tuxedo.
00:09:04.000Call me crazy, but I'm starting to think Lance Bass is gay.
00:09:18.000According to the Ireland study, people can form false memories after seeing fake news stories, especially if those stories align with their political beliefs.
00:09:41.000This next one, we were writing this bit, we couldn't get away from it sounding like Norm Macdonald in our head, so we're going to do this as a Norm Macdonald joke.
00:10:39.000The scientists who discovered the new species said that the leech is not something new that's come up, but it's been there the whole time unrecognized, which I'm told is actually the subject of this season's premiere of River Monsters, our nation's capital.
00:10:51.000So you got, yeah, it's the Bucharest Lampreynas.
00:10:56.000Made its way in through Lake Champlain, I think, and then the Great Lakes.
00:11:00.000Speaking of bodies, let's turn to the Pacific Northwest.
00:11:02.000Did you have anything, what did you think there, Gerald B.?
00:14:21.000Finally, there's this story where Andrew Yang, the Yang gangers out there, hello, admits
00:14:30.000to having once named his pectoral muscles.
00:14:33.000He named his right peck Rex and his left peck Lex, and apparently in college he could jostle them on command to impress the girls.
00:14:42.000If the girls were impressed, he'd then introduce them to, allegedly, Wang Hong, which, besides being racist, unfortunately, turned out to be a disappointing exaggeration.
00:14:50.000What do you think about that, Suge Knight Ruxpin?
00:14:53.000I'll beat his motherfucking ass and kick him square in his motherfucking ass and play with his titties.
00:14:57.000Hey, Suge Knight Ruxpin, don't you know you're not supposed to hate?
00:15:17.000I do feel as though many times when we go and we purchase these items and they ask us what it's for, if we gave them an honest answer, they would not sell them.
00:15:25.000That's what we're going to start doing, is just Crowder Confronts, where you go and try and buy stuff honestly, and they're like, no, no, no, Suge Knight?
00:15:54.000But this is something, we're going to talk about the Equality Act here, but let's set this up.
00:15:57.000Taylor Swift, she had this VMA performance acceptance speech where she promoted the Equality Act and then called out the White House for not responding to her petition.
00:17:16.000And you didn't even address it to the White House.
00:17:18.000You addressed it to the Senate, sweetheart.
00:17:22.000And by the way, even though we know that you've ditched all of your people and teardrops on your guitar and you're going for the pop world now to hang out with people like Lena Dunham, you didn't have to throw your dad under the bus and have him delete all of his social media just because he happens to be a Republican.
00:19:49.000But when you actually have to apply it, how are you going to apply something so undefined and malleable as gender identity?
00:19:56.000I mean, Everyone has a problem with just even understanding, okay, so if I decide to change today, if Trump decides he wants to identify as a woman, is it now we have our first woman president and everyone's going to run to his backing?
00:20:14.000They just want to stay in the high level in the clouds.
00:20:16.000And then when someone goes, well, I'd actually like a little bit of structure there to know how we're going to follow the law, they start saying... Don't you know you're not supposed to hate half-Asian Bill?
00:21:09.000Also, in a recent meet, this is important to note, said transgender, was first, ranked first nationally, and in a meet, someone placed second, respectively, was also a transgender.
00:21:19.000For the record, the race included exactly two transgender competitors.
00:21:30.000Men just have an unbelievable advantage!
00:21:32.000Testosterone, we've gone through this, higher bone density, greater lung capacity, higher ratio of fast-twitch muscle fibers, but we're gonna have to throw this out because someone wrote a college thesis.
00:21:40.000And Taylor Swift does an imaginary watch.
00:21:44.000And this is something important to note.
00:21:45.000People say, well, we're going to deal with sports when we get there.
00:21:47.000And this is something, and I would like your opinion here on this bill, but they say we can make a provision for sports.
00:23:03.000In the same way when you talk about discriminating against folks in a certain way, you have to be able to define what the discrimination is.
00:23:09.000And when one of the biggest proponents of it, Taylor Swift, can't even define it, I'm loving the music, but stick to it.
00:25:08.000I think you should be in Buffalo Bill's well.
00:25:12.000Think about the subjectivity though, right?
00:25:14.000Like again, and I don't say though as to be a rebuttal, but I mean think about it's actually worse.
00:25:19.000I mean it's worse than that when you think of the practical application of saying okay well hey I'm gonna go to the women's restroom today and later in the day I'm gonna go to the men's restroom and then actually later after that I'm gonna go back in the women's restroom.
00:25:39.000So regardless of whether it is or it isn't, you're going to take one person's subjective view of a place where they can go, they can feel safe, and frankly, if you've ever been in a women's restroom, it's always nicer than a men's restroom.
00:26:20.000The couch in the bathroom will smell like that.
00:26:22.000But the idea being is that, okay, if you have a subjective view of what should be great, and you're gonna have these women who say, the safe space that I have in the restroom to be able to go there and not worry about men being around, to be able to, you know, cry, or to do my makeup, or to do whatever, adjust my dress, now I have to say, under this rule, under the... Yep, we're lucky.
00:27:06.000It was theory that was supposed to be talked about in college because it didn't really matter or have real-world consequences, like most things that are talked about in humanities courses.
00:27:13.000And then, for some reason, people weren't in on the gag, like, let's just open up the floodgates!
00:27:17.000And even the professors themselves were like, what?
00:27:22.000So here's another reason, by the way, with this bill.
00:27:23.000They're going to be targeting religious organizations, business owners.
00:27:26.000The Equality Act prohibits against any kind of discrimination, as they put it, against LGBTQAAIP people from the bill.
00:27:33.000Any establishment that provides a good, a service, a program, including a store, shopping center, online retailer, or service provider, salon, we'll get back to that, bank, gas station, food bank, service, or care center, shelter, travel agency, funeral parlor, or establishment that provides health care, accounting, or legal services.
00:28:35.000They had a single mom's night at our church.
00:28:38.000This is a big thing where single mothers would go drop off their kids at daycare and I think they would do like yoga or spin class or sometimes it would have like a single like a matchmaking night with the single men of the church.
00:28:47.000So it would be illegal for a church to say, oh, we're having a single mom's night here.
00:28:52.000By the way, you have to be allowed if you're a man.
00:29:01.000They're clearly wanting to wax Jessica Yaniv's testicles and scrotum.
00:29:06.000So here's one of the things that I do think that we all have to keep in mind.
00:29:11.000on the conservative side in terms of talking about these issues is, really, if you get to the nub of why this rule is around, it's because of the few examples of folks who are treating other people inhumanely, right?
00:29:23.000I mean, there's one thing to say jokes, there's one thing to criticize the political positions, which is what we're doing here, and to criticize, again, the application of those rules.
00:29:31.000It's another thing for someone to say, who's listening to this, to go out and say, you know what I'm gonna do?
00:29:35.000Every time I see someone who's transgender, I'm gonna assault them.
00:29:39.000I'm going to attack them in the workplace.
00:29:41.000I'm going to discriminate against them in the workplace and treat them in an inhumane way.
00:29:45.000And that's not what we're talking about here.
00:29:47.000No, that's not what we're talking about.
00:29:47.000We're talking about the actual practical application of taking it.
00:30:44.000And this is important to note, by the way, if the kids don't transition, we've talked about this many times, 75 to 90% of children with gender dysphoria, they completely outgrow it with therapy.
00:30:51.000They're put on puberty blockers, their percentage drops to zero.
00:30:57.000The Equality Act will create a federal legal basis for parents to lose custody of their children for denying them healthcare if they don't go along with something that has no basis in science, and we don't have any data yet because this is really, really new.
00:31:12.000We could be putting all of these kids into a shallow, cancerous grave.
00:31:16.000So when you talk about loving, when you talk about caring about people, listen.
00:32:06.000It's a laundry list of leftist ideology that completely tries to criminalize any dissent.
00:32:10.000And just like the Green New Deal, by the way, the Green New Deal takes over, I don't want to say a fifth of the economy, because that's when we were talking about healthcare, the Green New Deal takes over All of the economy.
00:32:19.000It basically nationalizes energy and, by the way, also shoehorns in social and racial justice in the green.
00:35:49.000Like that sort of Abercrombie ethnic where it's like, I don't know what it is, but there's something there that is not intimidating as a white person and makes me want to buy, you know, low-cut pants.
00:35:58.000But I don't know what their dancing is like.
00:35:59.000So anyway, you know him, you love him.
00:36:43.000I would also agree, pretty lofty goals for one live event, but the sentiment I appreciate.
00:36:48.000But, you know, we want to address this cultural, political issue, the culture, or whatever you want to talk about, and we tried our best to bring in progressives, and we have many, and some liberals, as well as moderates and conservatives, I think it leans more towards the anti-SJW type, but that's because those people are so willing to get up on stage.
00:37:06.000Getting progressives is difficult, so my tremendous respect to those progressives who agreed to come and speak and sit down.
00:37:42.000They're calling all of these different politicians in the state.
00:37:45.000And they're accusing us of some of the weirdest conspiracy insanity I've ever seen.
00:37:49.000And it's a couple, they're some semi, I don't want to call them local because they're 40, 50 miles away, but they're these progressive groups.
00:37:56.000There's, as well as an Antifa group from New Jersey, accusing the group of like, you name it, you name it in terms of the worst thing you can be.
00:38:05.000White supremacy, pedophiles, you know, the Klan, like all like, it's like they reached into a hat and pulled out buzzwords about what this is.
00:39:20.000I know I read an article about Antifa, but are there organized groups that have publicly protested this, or is it just sort of happening in the dark portions of the West?
00:39:27.000No, there's some public... They're not, like, huge.
00:39:34.000I'd rather not, because I don't want to give them attention.
00:39:36.000Okay, you don't have to name them, but these are organized groups.
00:39:39.000In other words, it's not just a random person calling someone up, because we've talked about this, where every now and then you'll have someone at Vox or someone, you know, along those lines who complains of being harassed, and it's two people with a Twitter egg versus an organization or a concerted effort to shut it down, and you're saying it's the latter.
00:39:55.000So there is an Antifa group, which is, you know, it's probably a small handful of people in a certain portion of Jersey.
00:40:01.000There's another group that claims to be a progressive activist group.
00:40:07.000Another group actually has a very prominent activist who's been featured in news stories.
00:40:12.000So I wouldn't call them famous, but they've, you know, they're not, it's not like one or two people, but it might be 15 or 20.
00:40:22.000And then what they're doing is they're rallying Democratic groups to send harassing phone calls to local businesses, and it's gotten really bad.
00:40:30.000You know, the theater called us in a panic, and I'm gonna qualify this statement because of legal issues, but based on what I was told, my interpretation of the frantic and panicked voice was that Antifa was threatening to burn down their theater.
00:40:45.000This was corroborated by other people and eventually came out in the press, that, you know, this guy was panicked, like, these people are crazy, I can't, you know, they're gonna burn the theater down, all this stuff, something like that.
00:40:56.000It may have been that this guy was just panicking, and he saw some tweet, which was a joke, but, you know, this frantic, you know, flame, and then we, so we, there have been harassing phone calls and threats.
00:41:06.000Well, that's important to note, though, Tim, I don't want to skim over that, because you live in this world, and I live in this world, you know, for example, with the Vox scenario that was going on, where we're going back and forth, and I remember I had, Someone who I worked with, who will remain nameless, not someone here, but someone who, you know, it could have been a hairstylist, it could have been a doctor, let's put it, one of these sort of contractors in my life, and this person said, oh yeah, I heard you got into a lot of trouble with the gay community.
00:41:30.000And I said, well, hold on a second, what are you talking, he was talking about Vox.
00:43:14.000And, you know, they're the ones who are getting the brunt of it now, because, you know, when the lies and the slanders and the smears came in, saying it's Nazis and all that, these people actually did their due diligence and said, what are you talking about?
00:43:24.000It's like a Young Turks guy who's gonna be hanging out.
00:43:27.000Well, we've always done, at shows recently, we do after parties, and people can only get in if they have a mug, and we use cigar lounges, because cigar lounges tend to be overwhelmingly conservative, and it's sort of counter-cultural, so a lot of the owners are like, ah, yeah, just so you know, you can have some.
00:43:48.000Like, that's what a lot of these people say.
00:43:49.000So, in the future, you might want to look into it.
00:43:51.000But this brewery, they're like left-leaning individuals.
00:43:55.000One of the owners is, you know, I don't want to speak on their behalf too far, so I'll leave their private life to their private life, but, you know, they're Democrats.
00:44:05.000They talked about how, you know, it's really crazy, and I'll stress this point, which is another thing that's kind of worrying me, is Ten months ago, Ann Coulter spoke at the same theater, and some of these groups didn't do anything.
00:44:17.000Now, all of a sudden, we're seeing kind of a dramatic escalation in a more liberal event is being shot down.
00:44:23.000But this brewery, they told me that when the protests happened with Ann Coulter, they saw conservatives and Proud Boys, and they thought, hey, this is a great opportunity to start a dialogue with some of these other groups.
00:44:33.000That was, you know, so they shared that kind of mentality that conversation is better.
00:44:37.000I think I can tell you probably why that is.
00:44:39.000They assume that people who are going to an Ann Coulter show are too far gone, whereas someone like you, you're more moderate, you're making more inroads.
00:44:45.000That's why we get a lot of people who try to shut us down before we do shows because they go, well, hold on a second, this tends to be like a big party on campus.
00:44:51.000Usually we do a venue, it's a couple thousand seats.
00:44:53.000It's more of a comedy show, some Q&A, but it's a whole production, and it's not really the kind of thing one should be protesting, but it's because they just don't want new people to come to the show, and I think you're more likely to attract those people than Ann Coulter.
00:45:06.000I want to make sure that I get this right, because I want to move on to another topic here.
00:45:09.000August 31st, Saturday, and where is the show taking place?
00:45:13.000I can't give the venue out, but it's in Philadelphia.
00:45:15.000to be at the last minute, but it's in Philadelphia.
00:45:39.000Because I know that you, the one thing you've been very straight on is you will not vote for, for Donald Trump, but you seem to be butting heads with the left a whole lot more than most on the right.
00:45:49.000Well, yeah, I mean, look, there's a story today in NBC where they claim Trump is racist.
00:45:54.000Because he sent out an email where he said, they quote him, it's our country, not theirs, referring to Ocasio-Cortez.
00:46:26.000She's served her country, recently even.
00:46:29.000And she's someone who aligns with a lot of my values.
00:46:32.000And she has defended free speech for everybody, including conservatives.
00:46:35.000So it really does work for me in terms of someone I think would be better than Trump, at least, as the Commander-in-Chief.
00:46:43.000I think Trump has personality defects, which are bad in terms of unification.
00:46:49.000And I mean, I think one of the important aspects of the president is being a charismatic leader.
00:46:54.000But then there's also foreign policy things that I don't agree with.
00:46:57.000And trust me, I criticize Obama all day, every day for his foreign policy trip, too.
00:47:01.000And I give Trump credit for his student loan forgiveness for the veterans.
00:47:05.000But, you know, Trump is playing the Republican angle and there's core principles there I'm not going to support.
00:47:11.000But I don't I don't hate Trump, I just think he's boorish and rude, but that's not, you know— These are very light adjectives to describe Donald Trump.
00:47:23.000I think he's somewhat off-color, but that being said— Well, you see, I also try to be, I don't know, diplomatic.
00:47:33.000You know, I understand if I go to a Trump supporter and start screaming about how Trump is a nasty guy and, like, the worst in the world, it's going to break apart our ability to communicate.
00:47:49.000He's de-radicalized quite a few former KKK members, if people don't know, haven't looked into Daryl Davis.
00:47:54.000There's a documentary out there about him.
00:47:56.000But his thing was, give them the respect they're asking for.
00:47:58.000Let them express themselves and try and understand them.
00:48:01.000And that's a key to coming together, and I completely agree.
00:48:04.000So, you know, I'm not a fan of Trump, but I'm not gonna go on my channel and screech with blood coming out of my eyes about how he's Hitler or something like that.
00:48:12.000Is it disrespectful of me to say that Tulsa Gabbard is easy on the eyes?
00:48:20.000I was asked that by Jesse Kelly on his show, and he said something to that effect, and I'm like, well, she's a very professional and beautiful woman.
00:52:31.000We should either auction off the show or reuse it.
00:52:33.000And by the way, we do have actually, talking with Tim Poole, there's the extended, web extended for people who are not in my club much longer.
00:52:39.000We actually get into politics quite a bit.
00:53:24.000I heard someone talking about this the other day, saying, you know, this is a dark period for our country.
00:53:29.000And I hear that talked about a lot, and it's just a comment that's really taken for granted.
00:53:34.000Let's put politics away a little bit, okay?
00:53:37.000And I never really, I wasn't a huge fan of Barack Obama, obviously we had a downturn economy, but right now, a genuine question to people out there, even if you're not a Trump fan, the people out there, like what's his name, Rick whatever whatever, the people at National Review, the people who were Republicans but hate Trump, and even Democrats.
00:53:51.000Do you really believe this is a dark period in United States history?
00:53:56.000Do you really believe that 10, 15, 50 years from now they'll be teaching people that 2016 through 2019 was a dark period for the United States?
00:54:19.000This is an amazing time in history, and as much as we bitch about things, and I know I get wound up about Taylor Swift, honestly, this is an incredible time, and nobody appreciates it.
00:54:28.000I want you to genuinely look at your life right now, okay?
00:54:32.000Not just the United States, but let's think about the United States in a historical perspective right now, but I also want you to think of your personal life.
00:55:06.000Let's compare where we are now to an actual dark period.
00:55:09.000And by the way, if you're in a dark period personally, obviously, create a plan, take actions, take steps towards measurable progress like we've talked about.
00:55:40.000Was it a period where maybe your relative had cancer?
00:55:42.000Was it a period where maybe you couldn't make ends meet?
00:55:45.000Was it a period where maybe you were really sick and you were struggling with chronic pain?
00:55:49.000Whatever it was, if you were not going through that right now, even though you have some other issues, can you acknowledge, most of you out there, that they're probably not the worst?
00:56:00.000Because we often pray, or we ask for things, and then we either don't think that we'll actually get them, or we're not grateful for them.
00:56:07.000This is what happened, you know, Hopper is still doing well.
00:56:09.000Hopper we thought was going to lose him.
00:56:35.000We live in an amazing time in history, in an unbelievably blessed country.
00:56:40.000So all I want you to do, here's the advice, unless you're in that truly dark period where you can go back to the other crowd or closes and we talk about how to get out of it, how to set a plan.
00:56:50.000So if you're not in that truly dark period, and if you don't believe that the United States is in a truly dark historical period, the reason I'm using dark period is because this is what you hear in the media all the time.