Louder with Crowder - #567 IS ARMED REBELLION EVER THE ANSWER?! | Mike Rowe Guests | Louder with Crowder

00:00:00.000 Hey, really quickly before we get to the show, just want to let you know how much I appreciate

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00:00:39.000 A groundbreaking study now claims that tanning salons could be targeting gay men and putting them at risk of cancer. 0.60

00:00:45.000 They're only one of the services offered at Planet Pence Fitness Center, which when you think about, look, it's still gay? 1.00

00:00:52.000 I think so.

00:00:53.000 And the theme throughout all of it is we don't really report news.

00:00:55.000 In fact, someone actually says, this is Mike Brevin talking, he says, quote, we've sold ourselves to the devil.

00:01:02.000 We no longer report the news.

00:01:05.000 I want to get married to her but am held up by an unfortunate family issue. 0.80

00:01:09.000 Her parents are supposedly racist.

00:01:12.000 I am a devout Christian that hopes to raise a godly family.

00:01:15.000 Do you have any advice on how to approach the situation of having a girlfriend with racist parents?

00:01:20.000 Did you see any white supremacists in the audience?

00:01:23.000 No, I did not.

00:01:24.000 I was looking for him.

00:01:25.000 I've been looking for a white supremacist.

00:01:27.000 I've been looking for a Nazi, and I can't find him anywhere.

00:01:30.000 I've been all over the world saying, have you seen a white supremacist or a Nazi?

00:01:33.000 I would like to talk to them, please.

00:01:35.000 Well, I think David Duke still has a Twitter profile.

00:01:38.000 Then we'll reach out to him.

00:01:40.000 The contentious relationship between YouTube and Crowder has been heating up.

00:01:53.000 In this country, all people are equal before the law.

00:01:56.000 But in a few short years, all peoples around the globe were electrified to learn that what Vox dreamed of, but could not accomplish, came to a thundering realization with YouTube's lightning-like targeting of conservative voices.

00:02:11.000 This show, Mug Club, and its viewers are linked together in their cause against big technology and their greed will defend to the death your right to free speech fighting for the cause like good comrades to the utmost of our strength.

00:02:33.000 Mug Club shall go on to the end.

00:02:37.000 We shall fight on the YouTubes.

00:02:41.000 We shall fight on the Twitters and the Instagrams.

00:02:45.000 We shall fight with unwavering confidence and growing strength, even in the face of demonetization.

00:02:55.000 We shall defend every channel, whatever the costs may be.

00:03:02.000 We shall fight Against the liberal media.

00:03:06.000 We shall fight in the quarantined reddits. 1.00

00:03:08.000 We shall fight in the Young Turks comment section.

00:03:12.000 We shall fight at the TED Talks.

00:03:15.000 We shall fight with our retweets and our likes. 0.99

00:03:18.000 And we shall fight with all our jerks and with every irritating distasteful sketch. 0.99

00:03:26.000 And we shall never ever surrender! 0.99

00:03:30.000 And if Which I do not, for a moment, believe.

00:03:36.000 This show and its supporters were subjugated or shadow banned in our mug club.

00:03:43.000 Beyond all YouTube, armed and guarded by the half-Asian Kraken, we'll carry on the struggle until in God's good time, 1.00

00:03:53.000 the dear, free online world with all its power and might steps forth to the rescue and liberation of the cancelled!

00:04:03.000 Break the grip of the YouTube Gestapo and join Atlanta with Crowded.com slash Muglub today! 0.95

00:04:30.000 You're a strange animal, that's what I know.

00:04:48.000 You're a strange animal, I've got to follow. 0.99

00:04:55.000 I'm speechless. 0.98

00:05:02.000 That's called the Chuck Liddell, drunk and high on a morning show.

00:05:05.000 You guys ever see that?

00:05:06.000 When Chuck Liddell is like on a Dallas morning show and he's sitting there, and they said, who do you want to fight next?

00:05:11.000 He said, Tommy Morrison, who was the guy from Rocky 5.

00:05:17.000 And he blamed it on NyQuil.

00:05:18.000 I thought she wrote Beloved.

00:05:20.000 I was wondering what the hell you were doing over there.

00:05:22.000 I've used NyQuil.

00:05:23.000 I've never once wanted to fight Tommy Morrison.

00:05:28.000 We have Mike Rowe on the show, waiting for a while.

00:05:31.000 So looking forward to that, and we have a web extended there with Mike Rowe.

00:05:35.000 As I heard it, it's his new book.

00:05:36.000 We're going to be talking about death threats versus appropriate boundaries as it relates to government seizing your guns.

00:05:42.000 You know, that leads me to the question of the day.

00:05:45.000 I know this is a topic that leads to clickbait headlines, and people often find themselves in hot water.

00:05:48.000 We saw it with Ben Shapiro.

00:05:49.000 We'll talk about that for a little bit.

00:05:52.000 Quite a bit, actually.

00:05:53.000 Most avoid it.

00:05:54.000 I know that, okay?

00:05:56.000 But based on the recent controversies, when, if ever, do you think that any sort of an armed resistance to government tyranny is appropriate?

00:06:04.000 And I need you guys out there to have my back so this isn't taken out of context.

00:06:07.000 No death threats!

00:06:08.000 No death threats!

00:06:10.000 Still not a Nazi!

00:06:12.000 Canceled.

00:06:14.000 We're going to keep Bill busy, aren't we?

00:06:16.000 Leading the news though...

00:06:18.000 My half-faithful brother Bill Richmond is here.

00:06:19.000 We were already talking.

00:06:20.000 Quarter Black Garrett, show them your hood pass. 0.99

00:06:22.000 What's up, dawg?

00:06:23.000 I hate it. 0.68

00:06:23.000 Don't like it. 0.68

00:06:24.000 Don't like it at all.

00:06:25.000 G. Morgan Jr., how are you?

00:06:26.000 I'm doing well, sir.

00:06:26.000 Wine of the day?

00:06:27.000 Wine of the day is the Federalist Zinfandel.

00:06:28.000 Aged in bourbon barrels.

00:06:29.000 I didn't hear what you said.

00:06:30.000 The Federalist Zinfandel.

00:06:32.000 There's no way he said that that quickly.

00:06:33.000 He said the Federalist Zinfandel.

00:06:35.000 Did you hear Federalist Zinfandel?

00:06:36.000 No.

00:06:37.000 I speak faster than Ben Shapiro.

00:06:38.000 I heard that you're still on Percocet.

00:06:40.000 Leading the news.

00:06:42.000 Donald Trump.

00:06:43.000 That's foreshadowing, by the way.

00:06:44.000 We're going to be talking about it.

00:06:45.000 Donald Trump has joined Twitch.

00:06:47.000 Yeah, the president made his debut on the gaming platform during a Minnesota rally, signaling the campaign push to appeal to younger voters.

00:06:55.000 So supporters, they can actually use the app now to donate to the campaign, register to volunteer, and even join the president for Minecraft Mondays.

00:07:01.000 Hey! 0.99

00:07:02.000 Hey! 0.99

00:07:02.000 Boo! 0.99

00:07:03.000 Pedro!

00:07:03.000 Not today!

00:07:04.000 Boo! 0.83

00:07:04.000 Not today! 0.83

00:07:05.000 You're not sending your best.

00:07:07.000 I'm gonna send you right back.

00:07:10.000 Lookin' over there.

00:07:11.000 Let's keep building this wall.

00:07:12.000 There you go.

00:07:13.000 Brick by brick.

00:07:14.000 My wall, frankly, shoots fire.

00:07:17.000 You see?

00:07:18.000 And you're gonna pay for it.

00:07:20.000 Bah! 0.97

00:07:21.000 Bah! 0.97

00:07:23.000 Headstrap! 1.00

00:07:26.000 Hey, guys.

00:07:27.000 In the chat, let me know what you'd like me to put in my moat.

00:07:32.000 I'm thinking alligators and spikes.

00:07:34.000 I don't know if that's allowed.

00:07:36.000 It's very real.

00:07:38.000 Just wanted to set the expectations for the show.

00:07:39.000 Okay, Hopper's already leaving.

00:07:41.000 We're taking his blanket.

00:07:43.000 Also in 2020 news, Bernie Sanders has returned to the campaign trail, and now he has endorsements from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar.

00:07:54.000 AOC will appear with Bernie Sanders on Saturday at a Bernie's Back rally, like the Backstreet's Back.

00:08:00.000 Bernie's Back!

00:08:02.000 Again.

00:08:07.000 Sanders was so thrilled by the endorsements he had a heart attack. 1.00

00:08:11.000 And this lends credence to the recent polling data, we've talked about this, that shows Bernie making inroads with two key demographics, crazy people and terrorists who have sex with their brothers. 0.97

00:08:22.000 That's a Reuters, Ipsos poll with a plus minus margin of error of about 100%. 0.98

00:08:30.000 I thought it was backed up by the Quinnipiac poll.

00:08:34.000 Is it Quinnipiac or Quinnipiniac?

00:08:36.000 I don't know.

00:08:37.000 Does anyone actually say that word aloud?

00:08:39.000 I only trust Rasmussen and Quinnipiac is frankly that.

00:08:45.000 That.

00:08:47.000 In Los Angeles, by the way, a robot policeman.

00:08:52.000 Police robot?

00:08:53.000 Police officer?

00:08:54.000 Yelled at a woman to go away after she tried to report a crime and instead played a song.

00:08:58.000 Here you go.

00:09:02.000 It's Star Trek noise.

00:09:05.000 It's soothing.

00:09:06.000 Hopper come back here Sorry I had to bring Hopper back he was going to some

00:09:14.000 We have some producers in here.

00:09:15.000 You have to sit down, Hopper.

00:09:17.000 Stay there.

00:09:17.000 It's disturbing.

00:09:19.000 So the RoboCop yelled, step out of the way, rolled off while humming, which is really interesting when you think about it.

00:09:27.000 Oh, hi!

00:09:28.000 HP RoboCop?

00:09:29.000 Please, call me Henry.

00:09:31.000 I want you to think of me as your friend.

00:09:34.000 Oh, that's really nice.

00:09:35.000 Do you need to see any ID?

00:09:36.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:09:37.000 Don't be silly. 0.98

00:09:39.000 I exist to serve you as part of the department's new community policing initiative. 0.97

00:09:45.000 Oh, it's the community- Suspect alert!

00:09:47.000 Suspect alert!

00:09:48.000 Show me your hands!

00:09:49.000 Hey, everybody hold up! 1.00

00:09:50.000 Shut your filthy mouth! 1.00

00:09:51.000 InspiroboCop, I don't- Let me see the white of your palms! 1.00

00:09:54.000 Okay, okay, okay, sorry.

00:09:55.000 Give me a revenge boom! 1.00

00:09:57.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey!

00:09:58.000 InspiroboCop, okay.

00:09:59.000 Come on, come on, man.

00:10:00.000 That's not called for.

00:10:01.000 Hey, listen, I appreciate it.

00:10:03.000 Let's everyone take a breather, and we'll have someone talk with you, issue an official report later, okay?

00:10:10.000 I'll be by the bike rack.

00:10:12.000 Yeah, yeah, so will I. I'm easy to find.

00:10:17.000 HP, RoboCop, I think you're gonna, yeah, that's, okay, well.

00:10:23.000 All right, we'll come back soon.

00:10:25.000 I hope he finds what he's looking for.

00:10:28.000 By the way, who programmed into a robot policeman the word spook?

00:10:32.000 I'm fairly certain it was Justin Trudeau.

00:10:33.000 Which, by the way, brings us to our next story here. 0.98

00:10:34.000 Apparently doctors need to warn women now not to use toothpaste to, quote, tighten their vaginas. 1.00

00:10:37.000 Is that a thing?

00:10:37.000 There's bias.

00:10:38.000 Which I don't like.

00:10:39.000 I'm fairly certain it was Justin Trudeau.

00:10:41.000 I'm pretty sure that was one of his favorite characters.

00:10:42.000 Which by the way brings us to our next story here.

00:10:45.000 Apparently doctors need to warn women now not to use toothpaste to quote tighten their 0.99

00:10:51.000 vaginas as this comes from the New York Post. 0.97

00:10:53.000 It is a thing.

00:10:54.000 Just like drinking bleach to get rid of autism was a thing that we talked about.

00:10:57.000 People actually do this. 1.00

00:10:58.000 There are some really stupid people in the world. 1.00

00:11:00.000 We have defeated natural selection and I don't know if it's a good thing. 1.00

00:11:04.000 I think it's just self-imposed.

00:11:05.000 Natural selection in a new form.

00:11:07.000 Self-imposed.

00:11:08.000 Natural selection is learning.

00:11:10.000 Life finds a way.

00:11:13.000 The spokesperson for the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists say that putting toothpaste down there would not only be uncomfortable, but it could lead to serious damage.

00:11:20.000 And the organization felt a warning was needed after this became, it became a really big online trend.

00:11:25.000 Oh, wow.

00:11:25.000 With influencers, whatever that means, and even the Canadian Prime Minister promoting the practice on social media.

00:11:31.000 Hi guys, welcome back to another beauty secret tutorial.

00:11:35.000 Today I want to let you in on a tip.

00:11:37.000 I like to use all natural toothpaste because it's fluoride free and has activated charcoal, which acts as a really nice detoxifier as well as a natural whitening agent.

00:11:49.000 So, just apply it to your brush here.

00:11:54.000 And don't be shy to use a liberal amount and just let the activated charcoal do its thing.

00:12:08.000 Dale!

00:12:12.000 Oh, gosh.

00:12:13.000 Justin.

00:12:14.000 Justin, Justin.

00:12:15.000 That's Prime Minister Justin.

00:12:17.000 Yes, true.

00:12:18.000 You are not informal.

00:12:19.000 Prime Minister Justin.

00:12:21.000 I'd be like, President Becky!

00:12:22.000 Hey, we have to go to this week's Hollywood Minute.

00:12:25.000 Ooh.

00:12:26.000 Still needlessly long.

00:12:39.000 It's long, but it gets you into it.

00:12:41.000 It gets you into it.

00:12:42.000 It's almost as though we give more credence to what's happening in Hollywood than what should actually be affecting our lives.

00:12:47.000 Oh, that's surprising.

00:12:48.000 Why do you have your iPad there?

00:12:50.000 Because I've just got to make sure to, you know, do research and other things.

00:12:53.000 He's actually typing up his official resignation.

00:12:56.000 No, no, I have that ready at all times.

00:12:58.000 Yes, exactly.

00:12:59.000 That's just a saved draft.

00:13:02.000 Singer Ed Sheeran, because we haven't talked about him for a week and a half.

00:13:07.000 Taking a break from touring, and he spent the entire time painting.

00:13:12.000 You know, for a singer, Ed Sheeran is a great painter, but he's only an average gay. 1.00

00:13:16.000 Now his preferences, they're oil paintings, landscapes, though he says that his real passion actually lies in self-portraits, which if you see, yeah, he's uncanny.

00:13:27.000 Wow.

00:13:28.000 Is he really?

00:13:29.000 No, that was just slander.

00:13:30.000 I was going to say, I was looking it up just, you know, from the legal perspective.

00:13:34.000 Matt, can I send you some photos here of his wife?

00:13:37.000 Wait, is he married?

00:13:39.000 Well, we can't run it today.

00:13:39.000 Yeah, I mean, I think we do have some photos of her, but either way... Oh, there we go!

00:13:48.000 Look, he's giving hope to everyone like Gerald who married up.

00:13:51.000 Yes. 0.97

00:13:51.000 You know, moon-faced ugly guy. 0.97

00:13:53.000 Wait, hold on a second. 0.97

00:13:54.000 I thought you were putting that up to make the case that he's straight and she's a a field hockey player? Yeah. They're married. Yeah, I know.

00:14:00.000 She's a field hockey player.

00:14:02.000 It's covered. Cheryl's favorite. That's using they, their, and zee without a doubt. Rap 0.98

00:14:08.000 artist Ja Rule. Oh my gosh. Remember him?

00:14:12.000 He said that he still remains haunted by the poor quality of prison toilet paper. 0.99

00:14:17.000 This comes from page six where he said, it was the next step to wiping your ass with a Brillo pad. 0.99

00:14:22.000 Going on to add that it was almost as painful as the time he was raped in the prison shower with a Brillo pad. 0.99

00:14:28.000 Late 90s, early odd hip hop artist Brillo pad rape is no laughing matter.

00:14:32.000 And it's unfortunately more common than most realize.

00:14:35.000 As a matter of fact, early-odd rapper Brillo Pad Rape is likely to affect each and every one of us in our lifetime.

00:14:41.000 Startling statistics show that at least one in four late-90s through early-odd hip-hop artists have, at some point in their life, experienced Brillo Pad Rape.

00:14:49.000 Even more disturbing, more than 90% of these instances of Brillo Pad Rape go completely unreported.

00:14:55.000 That would mean that at 2017's Fyre Festival, hip-hop artist Ja Rule was raped with a Brillo Pad upwards of 72 times. 0.99

00:15:03.000 It doesn't have to be this way.

00:15:05.000 It's time to end the stigma.

00:15:07.000 Let us be the generation that says enough of late 90s through early odd hip-hop artist Brillo Pad Rape.

00:15:13.000 Please go to BrilloPadRape.org and give generously to put an end to Brillo Pad Rape today. 0.73

00:15:19.000 Yeah, and that's an actual website.

00:15:21.000 Really?

00:15:21.000 Yeah, nice.

00:15:23.000 I don't like that I heard laughter here in the studio.

00:15:25.000 First off, you're better than that.

00:15:27.000 No, I'm not.

00:15:27.000 You're all better than that.

00:15:29.000 And Brillo Pad Rape is a pandemic.

00:15:31.000 Which means it affects people on a global scale.

00:15:33.000 I thought he was going to be pissed off at the, like, you just, you know, you get the surprise whenever it's not thick enough.

00:15:37.000 What are you talking about?

00:15:38.000 It's not a fun thing.

00:15:38.000 Are you speaking from experience, Gerald?

00:15:41.000 He's a disgusting human being. 1.00

00:15:43.000 Everything about him is gross. 1.00

00:15:44.000 It's too thin! 0.99

00:15:45.000 Everybody said that experience with too thin paper and rips.

00:15:48.000 In an effort to relate to, we're going to be talking about government and armed insurrection and all this.

00:15:52.000 So then, you know, in case this isn't necessarily your speed, there's still quite a bit more of this speed before we change those gears.

00:15:59.000 So in an effort to relate to the struggles of its young audience, actually, Sesame Street, you know Sesame Street, they debut a new puppet character whose mom is addicted to opioids.

00:16:09.000 Which, I'm actually a supporter of this, but we've known about the opioid crisis with Muppets for a long time, as we've discussed with our office opioid expert, PJ, who's actually here right now.

00:16:19.000 Hey, PJ!

00:16:21.000 Hi, Steven!

00:16:22.000 Well, PJ, what's got you so down?

00:16:24.000 Well, it all started with a prescription for codeine after my herniated disc surgery.

00:16:30.000 You remember that, right?

00:16:32.000 Yeah.

00:16:32.000 Next thing you know, I'm performing oral favors for a day trader in Chinatown for half a tab of Percocet.

00:16:40.000 Wow, that is, uh, that is surprisingly disgusting. 0.65

00:16:42.000 Yeah, I'm in a pretty dark place, Steven. 0.99

00:16:45.000 Last week, I gave a Puerto Rican a huge f*** on his f***ing c*** because he said he had half a gram of fentanyl. 0.99

00:16:51.000 And did he? 0.99

00:16:57.000 I mean, it's a pretty quick slide to rock bottom, Steven.

00:17:01.000 Just backstage, one of your producers had a bottle of Vites, so I had to give him a Mandy.

00:17:07.000 Muppet Handy.

00:17:07.000 Amanda? Muppet handy. Of course it is. Okay. All right. You hang in there PJ. Chin up. Okay? I'll f*** your d*** for an

00:17:17.000 oxy. That's enough. Oh come on! I don't know why he's even allowed one. Oh my god. 1.00

00:17:23.000 Why does he have the access coat?

00:17:26.000 I thought his name was not PJ.

00:17:27.000 I thought it was Gerald C. Yeah, well, soon enough.

00:17:30.000 Once he cleans up.

00:17:32.000 Listen, it is important.

00:17:34.000 People who are addicts, we need to give them something to look forward to.

00:17:36.000 PJ, you can be Gerald C. once you clean up.

00:17:40.000 There we go.

00:17:41.000 Excellent.

00:17:41.000 There's only Gerald.

00:17:43.000 It gets better.

00:17:44.000 Just hold on with your little four fingers. 0.77

00:17:48.000 Hip-hop producer Pharrell?

00:17:50.000 Pharrell?

00:18:05.000 Full cover.

00:18:06.000 The magazine actually looks to explore the ways that traditional notions of masculinity

00:18:09.000 are being challenged, overturned, and evolved, is what they say.

00:18:13.000 And that brings us to this week's 7 Plus 1.

00:18:20.000 So this week, yeah, 7 plus 1, 8.

00:18:23.000 Practical uses for Pharrell, based on his GQ cover.

00:18:27.000 Oh yeah.

00:18:28.000 This is basically a public service.

00:18:30.000 Practical uses for Pharrell, based on his GQ cover.

00:18:32.000 Number 7, a wonderful Christmas tree topper.

00:18:37.000 That's excellent.

00:18:38.000 Number 6, a shuttlecock for giants.

00:18:41.000 See, he serves.

00:18:43.000 You know what, Bill, how about you read us number five?

00:18:45.000 I like that.

00:18:46.000 Number five, emergency plane exit.

00:18:48.000 Jump and tuck.

00:18:50.000 It works pretty well.

00:18:53.000 Number four, an ice cream cone for giants.

00:18:56.000 So it's really useful.

00:18:59.000 Let's have G. Morgan A-ish. 0.98

00:19:02.000 Let's have you try number three. 0.76

00:19:04.000 A resting place for embalmed Egyptians. 1.00

00:19:07.000 You know, we really could have just said tomb.

00:19:10.000 Yeah.

00:19:11.000 Looking back, that probably would have been a little easier to say.

00:19:14.000 Number two, very worthwhile, valuable, no passing hazard sign.

00:19:19.000 Pharrell, yeah.

00:19:20.000 Oh, safety first.

00:19:21.000 And the number one practical use for Pharrell, based on his recent GQ catalog cover, Georgie sleeping bag, which seems, yeah.

00:19:30.000 And the plus one, I I forgot, the plus one, the one in the chamber.

00:19:33.000 Don't forget the one in the chamber.

00:19:34.000 Plus one practical use for Pharrell based on his GQ cover.

00:19:37.000 Cancellation of GQ subscriptions.

00:19:39.000 So there you go.

00:19:41.000 This has been this week's 7 Plus 1.

00:19:47.000 You forgot Stefan in the chamber!

00:19:49.000 All right, who knocked over my pipe?

00:19:51.000 That was PJ.

00:19:51.000 Ooh.

00:19:52.000 I'm pretty sure that was you.

00:19:54.000 Hey, Corner Black Garrett, read us the winner from this year's trivia contest.

00:19:57.000 Winner is Catherine Eel?

00:20:01.000 Are you dyslexic, Porter Black? 0.99

00:20:03.000 Look, you white people make me nervous. 0.99

00:20:05.000 Correctly identified. 0.87

00:20:06.000 Wow.

00:20:07.000 You mean your mother makes you nervous?

00:20:09.000 Thanksgiving must be very uncomfortable for you.

00:20:11.000 Except for half.

00:20:13.000 Oh, that's awesome.

00:20:14.000 Yeah.

00:20:14.000 correctly identify that A&M is a location for this year's Halloween Spooktacular.

00:20:17.000 Go to loudmouthcounter.com slash tour for details. Okay, so everyone got that out of their system?

00:20:22.000 Yeah. I want to talk about this idea of people now are labeling anyone who

00:20:28.000 criticizes the government or accuses policies of being tyrannical, of making death threats.

00:20:33.000 Yeah.

00:20:34.000 And I think this is a discussion that we actually should have.

00:20:36.000 A lot of people don't want to have it, because no one wants to be tarred and feathered as someone who's an extremist.

00:20:40.000 We're issuing death threats.

00:20:40.000 Right.

00:20:41.000 No one here is issuing death threats, I want to be really clear.

00:20:43.000 Half-Asian lawyer Bill, you've heard me say this repeatedly.

00:20:43.000 Right?

00:20:45.000 None.

00:20:46.000 Good.

00:20:46.000 Legally covered.

00:20:47.000 So, let's start it with this.

00:20:48.000 Beto O'Rourke, in case you think of another Beto.

00:20:52.000 There isn't one there.

00:20:53.000 When I say Beto, someone's going, Beto Nathaniel?

00:20:56.000 No.

00:20:56.000 I knew a Beto back in junior high, but I don't think he proposed a gun buyback.

00:21:02.000 It might not be the same one.

00:21:03.000 So Beto, he repeated his demands for a mandatory gun buyback program at the debates this Tuesday.

00:21:09.000 Listening to my fellow Americans, to those moms who demand action, to those students who march for our lives, who in fact came up with this extraordinary bold peace plan that calls for mandatory buybacks, let's follow their inspiration and lead.

00:21:21.000 Let's just follow their inspiration.

00:21:23.000 No.

00:21:23.000 Doesn't matter how much of a violation of human rights it is as long as you were inspired.

00:21:27.000 Doesn't matter.

00:21:27.000 Just do it.

00:21:28.000 Hitler looked at some nice watercolors. 0.93

00:21:30.000 Oh my gosh.

00:21:33.000 Just to be clear, we want to make sure that we are not taking him out of context.

00:21:35.000 I encourage you to go watch the full debates.

00:21:37.000 The next day, when asked about it, he doubled down on his comments.

00:21:41.000 In that case, I think there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm and to make sure that it is purchased, bought back, so that it cannot be potentially used against somebody else.

00:21:54.000 Yeah, because you would never want a firearm to potentially be used against someone else.

00:21:58.000 No.

00:21:58.000 That almost might negate the purpose of firearms.

00:22:00.000 It would be crazy to use it for its main purpose of self-defense.

00:22:04.000 How are you going to take that gun down?

00:22:06.000 I want to take the knife because it could be used to cut something.

00:22:10.000 It could be used to separate objects of different density.

00:22:14.000 And we need to take the knives.

00:22:16.000 Keep in mind, by the way, while we're talking about this, Beto was arrested for burglary and had a DUI flood the scene.

00:22:22.000 So the guy proposing this is somebody who was burgling.

00:22:27.000 He's familiar with it.

00:22:28.000 You know, you're one of the great cat burglars in the world, Beto.

00:22:30.000 You think you can keep it down for a bit in there, huh?

00:22:33.000 Where's Greta to say that he's stealing her future and her time? 0.63

00:22:37.000 I mean, that's the question.

00:22:39.000 So then they were saying, OK, great.

00:22:40.000 So B2, you're not going to drink anymore because of the DUI.

00:22:45.000 You're not going to live in a house.

00:22:46.000 Or the Drunk Bandits!

00:22:48.000 Yeah, just whatever you want to do.

00:22:50.000 The Drunk Wet Bandits.

00:22:51.000 The Drunk Wet Bandits.

00:22:53.000 Now, by the way, this is something that's important to note.

00:22:55.000 Even at the Democratic debates, I think that's why I doubled down the next day.

00:22:58.000 The Democrats went out of their way.

00:22:59.000 They wanted to challenge him on this.

00:23:00.000 And I think this stems from Beto was struggling, I think, to get one or two percent in the polls.

00:23:05.000 And so he said, you know what?

00:23:06.000 Democrats, obviously, are pushing her to this. 1.00

00:23:07.000 I'm just going to come out and say, mandatory gun buyback, gun confiscation.

00:23:11.000 That was his Hail Mary.

00:23:12.000 And Democrats are going, ooh, we can just pick this guy off more effectively than Tulsi Gabbard picked off Kamala Harris a couple of debates ago. 1.00

00:23:18.000 Which, by the way, Tulsi Gabbard, I actually think the only two reasonable people on that stage, Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard, Tulsi Gabbard has no chance.

00:23:23.000 She's too hot. 1.00

00:23:24.000 You can't have a president who's that attractive.

00:23:26.000 People will not feel comfortable around it.

00:23:30.000 Notably Justin Trudeau.

00:23:31.000 He's going to be competing, sizing her up, putting his shoulders up.

00:23:34.000 You're like an episode of Mean Girls. 1.00

00:23:37.000 So the Democrats went after, I want to make sure that we show a clip, they went after Beto O'Rourke saying, well okay Beto, how are you going to enforce that?

00:23:44.000 It's unenforceable.

00:23:45.000 Our fellow Americans will follow the law, yes.

00:23:48.000 Congressman, mass shooters don't follow the law by definition.

00:23:50.000 The mass shooters in Parkland, in El Paso, I could go on for 10 minutes, they don't follow the law by definition.

00:23:58.000 But wouldn't it be nice if they did?

00:24:00.000 You just made it clear that you don't know how this is actually going to take weapons off the streets.

00:24:04.000 If you can develop the plan further, I think we can have a debate about it.

00:24:07.000 He can't and you can't debate about it.

00:24:10.000 Nobody can.

00:24:10.000 And by the way, last night I was having dinner with some friends and one of the people at the table said it was refreshing to hear him say something other than thoughts and prayers.

00:24:17.000 Like, did you listen to anything he said?

00:24:19.000 None of it made any sense.

00:24:20.000 It was bad policy.

00:24:22.000 AR-15s aren't responsible for most mass shootings.

00:24:24.000 And you can't do it!

00:24:25.000 I don't believe the story.

00:24:25.000 You weren't having dinner with friends.

00:24:26.000 You were by yourself.

00:24:27.000 I was by myself.

00:24:28.000 My wife's out of town! 0.99

00:24:30.000 You were by yourself crying into a Hungryman.

00:24:32.000 I was drinking this other bottle of Federalist.

00:24:34.000 Hungryman XL.

00:24:35.000 That's all I know how to cook!

00:24:37.000 It is interesting to think that if thoughts and prayers are a problem and no action, dreaming about a land in which people are just criminals are going to voluntarily hand over their firearms and then only the good citizens will be the ones without guns, that's not fantasy.

00:24:50.000 Which, by the way, here's the thing, too.

00:24:52.000 You cease to be a good citizen just for holding on to your rights.

00:24:55.000 That's the thing.

00:24:56.000 You are now a criminal because of a God-given right.

00:24:58.000 And that's going to bring us into this conversation that I really want to talk about and explore.

00:25:01.000 So, knowing this, last week the left, they had a meltdown claiming that Ben Shapiro had threatened to murder someone.

00:25:07.000 Because he did say that he would resist the Democratic agenda if it violated basic human rights.

00:25:11.000 I want you to watch the clip.

00:25:13.000 Now, full disclosure, I'm friends with Ben Shapiro.

00:25:15.000 I've known him for a while.

00:25:16.000 He negotiated my first business contract.

00:25:18.000 We just met through Andrew Breitbart, and I said, you know, you've got a lot of vowels in your last name, and you seem like you can negotiate this for me.

00:25:25.000 I didn't know Bill at the time.

00:25:26.000 I said Shapiro.

00:25:29.000 Probably a good lawyer, and he did.

00:25:30.000 He did it very well.

00:25:32.000 Yes, I am biased, but I want you to watch the clip for yourself and see if he made a death threat in any shape or form.

00:25:37.000 There's only one reason the government exists.

00:25:39.000 To protect those rights, not invade those rights.

00:25:41.000 It is my right to raise my child with the moral precept that I find to be beneficial for my child.

00:25:47.000 Beto O'Rourke does not get to raise my child. 0.90

00:25:49.000 And if he tries, I will meet him at the door with a gun.

00:25:52.000 He's basically talking about a home intrusion scenario.

00:25:54.000 He's talking about protecting, exactly.

00:25:56.000 He's not talking about threatening.

00:25:57.000 He's not going out to look for Beto O'Rourke.

00:25:59.000 He's saying, look, if you come and try to invade my space and try to tell me how to do this, I'm going to protect myself.

00:26:03.000 Right.

00:26:04.000 I mean, I think the one thing I would say that is at least intellectually honest about what Beto's saying is that he's admitting that the plan that he has been talking about and that other Democrats have talked about will lead to using guns to seize other guns from people who aren't using their guns wrong.

00:26:18.000 And so finally admitting it and now even the left is admitting it's not really a plan that will make sense in any kind of efficacy type of way.

00:26:25.000 Absolutely.

00:26:26.000 That's a fact.

00:26:30.000 In fact, the fact is I was at Harvard and you're merely half Asian.

00:26:36.000 I'd love to see them debate.

00:26:37.000 Maybe if you go into the courtroom and we meet and you're using your kung fu moves. 0.98

00:26:42.000 We'll do a violin battle. 0.92

00:26:44.000 I'm quite confident.

00:26:44.000 I played at Carnegie Hall.

00:26:45.000 But I do lie.

00:26:47.000 No, it's not.

00:26:48.000 I'm just razzing him a little bit.

00:26:49.000 I like to have a laugh.

00:26:50.000 It does beg the question, when, if ever, is armed resistance required or appropriate?

00:26:57.000 And how is drawing a line in the sand on that basis, how is that different from a death threat?

00:27:02.000 Again, half-Asian Bill, my lawyer, not making any death threats.

00:27:05.000 I am not issuing any call to violence here with this segment, OK?

00:27:09.000 Right.

00:27:09.000 He's not.

00:27:10.000 OK.

00:27:11.000 So let's go through point one, if we're examining this conversation.

00:27:14.000 Because to think that resistance or to think that some kind of armed resistance or armed violent conflict can't happen today is naive.

00:27:23.000 It's to not understand the basic human condition.

00:27:26.000 And it happens across the world today, by the way.

00:27:28.000 Slavery still happens today. 1.00

00:27:30.000 And we'll get back to that.

00:27:31.000 This idea that we're well past that so we don't need guns anymore Exactly.

00:27:36.000 It's so factually off-beam that it's the actual—we need firearms, because the only way to protect oneself in the modern world is with firearms, and that's why it's a God-given right.

00:27:45.000 So let's look at the history as to what in the past, throughout history, humans thought warranted some kind of resistance, right?

00:27:52.000 And differentiating that—let's differentiate that from senseless violence.

00:27:56.000 Let's take an example here and say a death threat versus setting a line in the sand and a boundary.

00:28:00.000 So one, like saying if someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night while I and my family are there, I'm going to protect it with my firearm.

00:28:08.000 Reasonable.

00:28:08.000 That's issuing a line, drawing a line in the sand, creating boundaries.

00:28:12.000 The other, a death threat, would be saying, I'm going to kill everyone at the post office! 0.99

00:28:16.000 One's appropriate. 0.98

00:28:17.000 One's a reprehensible crime.

00:28:19.000 When we look at history, there are through lines as to when people have resorted to armed resistance.

00:28:25.000 Legitimately.

00:28:27.000 Usually it requires the invasive removal of very personal human rights.

00:28:32.000 I'll give you a few examples here.

00:28:34.000 Of course, with the American Revolution, you can see freedom of religion was a big one.

00:28:37.000 People wanted to be able to worship freely.

00:28:39.000 The government was not representative of its constituents.

00:28:42.000 Taxation without representation.

00:28:43.000 That mirrors quite a bit what happened with the French Revolution.

00:28:47.000 We have a civil war over slavery.

00:28:48.000 I would argue that's a good thing.

00:28:50.000 Someone was trying to say, you are going to be enslaved.

00:28:52.000 I'm going to remove your right to be free.

00:28:54.000 And there was a call to arms, which is also why we have the Second Amendment in the first place.

00:29:01.000 And I would just like to say, a lot of people will throw out the thing and say, you can never overcome the U.S.

00:29:05.000 military forces.

00:29:05.000 Like, yeah, that's what they were saying about the British whenever we started fighting.

00:29:08.000 That's what they were saying in Vietnam when we had this long, protracted war.

00:29:11.000 And in Afghanistan, all these people, you will always outlast and outfight if you're an insurgency.

00:29:16.000 It'll always happen, right?

00:29:17.000 You can't wipe everybody out.

00:29:18.000 So people that are saying you don't need those weapons, you'll never be able to do that, they're wrong.

00:29:21.000 Not necessarily always.

00:29:23.000 Historically, yes.

00:29:24.000 I saw Captain Phillips, the Somali pirate You just need more than one boat. 1.00

00:29:29.000 Still waiting for that guy to appear in romantic comedies.

00:29:33.000 I don't think it's coming down the pike.

00:29:35.000 That's his high watermark.

00:29:36.000 He was nominated for an Oscar.

00:29:37.000 Where's my failure to launch?

00:29:42.000 I think when you when you look at the short term the left continues to focus on the idea that well we'll just take away guns and we get over the fact that criminals are still gonna have guns but what what is the point of having the right to defend and if you can't defend yourself in a means that would actually help you let's say I mean that the tales of And not tales, the real life stories of individuals who would otherwise not be able to fight off an intruder, much less two or three or four or five, but have had a simple firearm, even just a .22, to be able to defend themselves and to be able to scare off folks as a deterrent.

00:30:16.000 You're saying that if you were in that situation, you do not have a right to take any action.

00:30:20.000 At that point, you might as well just say, lay down, take your clothes off, give them the stuff.

00:30:24.000 It's your obligation.

00:30:24.000 In 2019, when people say, well, they couldn't have foreseen the kind of—actually, it's more necessary than ever in 2019, because it's your right to self-preservation, right?

00:30:32.000 You're not just using a club at this point.

00:30:33.000 If you don't have a firearm, you're not going to be able to protect yourself.

00:30:35.000 And as far as the guesswork, I like to take it out of this equation here.

00:30:40.000 Which rights are worth fighting over?

00:30:42.000 We have a guide to our stars, if you will, the Constitution.

00:30:45.000 And it expressly outlines human rights, natural rights, human rights as granted by God.

00:30:50.000 That's what's important.

00:30:51.000 You may just think it's some imaginary being in the sky.

00:30:54.000 That's fine.

00:30:54.000 But you still benefit from the idea, the premise, that the Founding Fathers used to establish the Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

00:31:02.000 They said the government cannot grant or remove these rights.

00:31:06.000 They can only exist to protect them.

00:31:09.000 So, again, when, if ever, is armed resistance appropriate?

00:31:13.000 And can someone discuss it in 2019 without being accused of a death threat?

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00:31:29.000 So let me kind of make this clear, and then you guys can obviously chime in.

00:31:32.000 Sure.

00:31:32.000 When would it be appropriate?

00:31:33.000 Let's start with when it would be inappropriate.

00:31:35.000 Okay?

00:31:35.000 When would it be inappropriate to ever defend yourself or mount some kind of resistance?

00:31:40.000 Okay.

00:31:41.000 It would be inappropriate for any kind of violent resistance due to a personal affront, due to policy differences, due to ad hominem attacks, or even due to a proposal of a policy that you think could lead to tyranny.

00:31:57.000 None of those would be appropriate instances to stand your ground.

00:32:00.000 Okay?

00:32:01.000 And there's some nuance in there, obviously.

00:32:04.000 But let me tell you where it gets black and white.

00:32:05.000 There ceases to be nuance.

00:32:07.000 The moment there is an enforcement of policy that infringes upon your basic fundamental human rights, resistance is at least an appropriate discussion.

00:32:16.000 So we've said where it's not appropriate.

00:32:17.000 Let me give you some clear examples where I think it could be appropriate.

00:32:20.000 Let's start with Beto O'Rourke.

00:32:22.000 Going house to house to take people's guns.

00:32:25.000 Which he has to do that, right?

00:32:26.000 We're not talking about an assault weapons ban, you know, which basically means like, okay, this is legal, illegal.

00:32:32.000 Is it, ah, ah, ah, oh.

00:32:37.000 Joe Biden, we took assault weapons, that was one thing funny with the debate.

00:32:39.000 He said, we took assault weapons off the street and crime went down.

00:32:42.000 You dummy, crime was already going down.

00:32:44.000 Last year was the lowest year, I believe, for violent crime ever. 0.96

00:32:47.000 You were just a blip in the overall downturn.

00:32:50.000 By the way, I don't think what stopped the crime was this, this, this, ah, ah, ah, oh.

00:32:56.000 Just people just using less guns because the pistol grip.

00:33:00.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:02.000 I don't know how to use it now.

00:33:03.000 Like George Harrison after Helter Skelter.

00:33:05.000 They got blisters on their fingers! 1.00

00:33:07.000 You think I'm gonna pistol grip this shit? 1.00

00:33:11.000 I don't remember that one. 0.99

00:33:13.000 Okay, so where would it be appropriate?

00:33:17.000 It's in the V-side, the studio recording for the BBC.

00:33:18.000 I'm done!

00:33:19.000 I had a funny line, I'm out!

00:33:20.000 Yeah, that was George Harrison.

00:33:21.000 That's it.

00:33:21.000 That's it for the year, Gerald.

00:33:23.000 So, you've broken no law when we're talking about house-to-house taking guns.

00:33:26.000 Let me be clear.

00:33:27.000 You've broken no law.

00:33:28.000 It is your personal property.

00:33:29.000 You have the right to own that gun.

00:33:31.000 Correct on everything I said?

00:33:32.000 Yeah.

00:33:32.000 The government has no authority to infringe upon that right if you are a law-abiding citizen.

00:33:38.000 They solely exist to protect those rights.

00:33:41.000 So let me give you another example.

00:33:43.000 If some person has seized control, to which they have no right, decides that they want to rewrite laws so that they can simply infringe upon your God-given rights, it's illegitimate.

00:33:52.000 I won't recognize that.

00:33:53.000 Just in the same way, if someone walks into my house, who's an intruder, he has not been granted permission, and like a vampire, I didn't invite him in.

00:34:01.000 If I do, it's on me.

00:34:02.000 It's on me.

00:34:04.000 I'm going to be pale in the face.

00:34:05.000 I get it.

00:34:06.000 It's a rule.

00:34:07.000 Right?

00:34:07.000 If he comes in, he does not have the right to take any of my stuff, including my firearm.

00:34:11.000 Neither does a member of the government.

00:34:13.000 They do not have the right to do that just because someone said, I am going to create a new law.

00:34:20.000 That's important.

00:34:21.000 That's different from committing a crime or foregoing your rights because you're a felon.

00:34:25.000 Is that totally out of line?

00:34:27.000 I mean there's obviously a structure in which we say that if you're participating in society, if you give up your rights by committing crimes that are at a certain level, you're giving that up.

00:34:35.000 I get that there are libertarian friends out there who would say that if you're in the society you never give up the rights, so there shouldn't be such things.

00:34:40.000 I get that argument, but you know the general premise of where the Constitution came from was that, and where we've interpreted it, is that you would be able to give up those certain rights whether it's freedom, going to jail, having guns taken away, or the vote to write their franchise, etc.

00:34:53.000 And so then ultimately the question becomes, let's take the reality of saying, okay, let's say it's not the United States, where things are, despite what the left would say, pretty great.

00:35:02.000 Yeah.

00:35:02.000 And then you go over to another country where they're fighting for freedom.

00:35:06.000 Is that rule still supposed to apply there?

00:35:08.000 Oh, you're saying they have the right to defend themselves because they need to do it right

00:35:12.000 then, but not in America because we don't need to do it right now, and we will never,

00:35:16.000 ever, ever have to do it in the future.

00:35:19.000 And even if God willing we never would have to, but the point of the God-given right is

00:35:24.000 not only on an individual basis to be able to defend yourself, but to be able to defend

00:35:27.000 yourself from a government that is supposed to stem from the people.

00:35:30.000 And when it's not anymore, that's when you have to have the discussion.

00:35:33.000 And I want to get away from the idea of, you know, like, assault weapons bans, but this is the same reason that freedom of speech, people are shocked when I say, well, it really only exists in the United States because it's enshrined in our Constitution.

00:35:41.000 Remember that lady at Change My Mind? 0.99

00:35:43.000 She's like, what are you talking about?

00:35:44.000 We have freedom of speech in Germany!

00:35:46.000 I said, really?

00:35:47.000 Yeah, you're lying.

00:35:48.000 We just don't let hate speech.

00:35:50.000 And then everyone starts laughing.

00:35:51.000 She's like, why are you laughing at me?

00:35:52.000 Stop! 1.00

00:35:53.000 Stop with the laughter!

00:35:54.000 I'm uncomfortable with laughter.

00:35:57.000 So is the Japanese. 0.97

00:35:59.000 That's why we make great bedfellows.

00:36:02.000 It only exists here because it is enshrined in the Constitution.

00:36:05.000 A law like this, completely destroying the Second Amendment, going house to house, removing people's guns, would that be a legally unprecedented bill?

00:36:14.000 It would be against the set rules that we have right now that have come from the Supreme Court about what the Second Amendment protects and what it doesn't.

00:36:20.000 And the line that the Second Amendment comes from on the same premise of the inalienable rights that came from the original Constitution.

00:36:27.000 So, you know, we've got the Bill of Rights, they further interpret what those rights are and have been set down.

00:36:31.000 And of course, you know, the states could all get together and take those rights away to a certain extent, except at that point we'd obviously believe it's out of the Constitution and against what the country was founded on.

00:36:41.000 I was going to say, this isn't something that's a bridge too far for us to really contemplate.

00:36:46.000 A president getting elected and then using an executive order to try to do something like this to circumvent the Constitution.

00:36:52.000 I think that's the kind of scenario that we can envision where all of a sudden we've broken the process that we have in place to make sure that the laws of the land are enforced and that we adhere to those laws.

00:37:01.000 That's the kind of thing that would happen.

00:37:02.000 And it's never positive.

00:37:03.000 Let's compare it to the freedom of speech scenario, okay?

00:37:05.000 But let's kind of go on that flip side of the coin here.

00:37:07.000 So, I have the right to speak freely.

00:37:09.000 That's recognized in the Constitution.

00:37:10.000 What does that mean?

00:37:11.000 If I'm out speaking against the government, let's say I'm at a right-to-life rally, okay?

00:37:15.000 Let's just say I'm speaking offensively.

00:37:16.000 For example, I don't know, using your biologically proper pronouns.

00:37:21.000 So, just because it offends somebody doesn't mean they have the right to punch me in the face.

00:37:25.000 Antifa can't come up, throw a concrete milkshake at me. 0.99

00:37:27.000 I have the right to defend myself with appropriate force.

00:37:32.000 Equal and opposing reaction, right?

00:37:34.000 That would be no different than if I went out and spoke against the government and they sent armed people to jail me.

00:37:40.000 Those people are removing my right to speak freely and shrine in the Constitution by force.

00:37:46.000 I believe that in that instance it is appropriate to defend yourself.

00:37:50.000 These are extreme examples.

00:37:51.000 At least they would have been theoretical examples except for the fact that Beto O'Rourke brought it to the world as a very concrete example.

00:37:58.000 He would send people house to house to take your guns with their own guns.

00:38:01.000 Made it very clear.

00:38:03.000 The government has no authority in telling me what I can and cannot say.

00:38:06.000 Just because a new politician says they can, it doesn't mean that I'm actually breaking the law.

00:38:12.000 It's a natural law.

00:38:13.000 It's a human right.

00:38:14.000 It is not a political policy.

00:38:16.000 And I'd like to toss the bill on that a little bit.

00:38:18.000 A lot of people don't understand the idea of natural rights, human rights.

00:38:21.000 These are birthrights.

00:38:22.000 Well, the idea that the rights themselves are outside of or above and not given by government.

00:38:28.000 Because at some point when you say that the government is the one that can create the rights, and those rights don't pre-exist the government, so not only have you unhinged the idea of rights except for someone who's giving it to you, but you have no way to say if a group of people get together and say, Yeah, you actually don't have any rights anymore, so clean my house, right?

00:38:46.000 I mean, that's the kind of natural thought that led back to a Democratic-led fight for slavery, you know, a century ago.

00:38:54.000 Wait, when did I lose that right?

00:38:56.000 Beto did a kickflip.

00:38:58.000 He's really popular right now, so we let him do it.

00:39:00.000 One important thing I would definitely say is that, you know, because Beto has already taken this to the very end, that's why we're talking at the end about would you ever need guns, would you ever get to that point.

00:39:08.000 In between here and there is the court system.

00:39:12.000 There is the fact that we have the party system, that we have voting.

00:39:14.000 No death threats!

00:39:15.000 Context!

00:39:16.000 Lest you take the clips!

00:39:17.000 Opposite of that!

00:39:17.000 No!

00:39:18.000 Context!

00:39:18.000 Go ahead.

00:39:19.000 So we have all these things like the electoral college versus the popular vote.

00:39:24.000 And sure, are these systems necessarily 100% efficient?

00:39:27.000 Of course not.

00:39:28.000 The natural way of society is that things can't be efficient, but the natural system that we have in America, as opposed to other places, means that if we were to get that far, we would have had to cross so many thresholds that that is the only option.

00:39:40.000 This is a situation I found with Jordan Peterson.

00:39:44.000 That's the whole trouble that he got in, the compulsive language that they're dealing with in Canada.

00:39:49.000 Let's go to another scenario.

00:39:50.000 The freedom of religion, right?

00:39:51.000 To worship freely.

00:39:53.000 Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Scientologist, doesn't matter, right? 0.98

00:39:55.000 It is my right, everyone's right here, to... I know, but you know what?

00:39:58.000 They technically are a religion.

00:39:59.000 Careful, careful.

00:40:00.000 They barely won that!

00:40:01.000 Let's Xenu hear you.

00:40:02.000 No, no, I hear Tom Cruise is coming.

00:40:04.000 Your seat levels will be off the charts.

00:40:05.000 Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, 0.99

00:40:08.000 beep, and then Tom Cruise has sex with you. 1.00

00:40:09.000 What? 0.93

00:40:09.000 How is that allowed? 0.93

00:40:11.000 Part of it.

00:40:11.000 Lucky.

00:40:12.000 Again? 1.00

00:40:14.000 It's the Scientology sex for the dead. 1.00

00:40:16.000 That's what it is. 0.98

00:40:16.000 It's like the baptism for the dead, only it's Tom Cruise and he just goes on a date with you. 0.98

00:40:21.000 I don't know what I'm talking about now.

00:40:22.000 So it's my right to lead my family spiritually as I see fit, period.

00:40:27.000 If some random guy comes into my church, or your mosque, with a gun, telling you that the Flying Spaghetti Monster has led to more wars than blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, okay, we get it.

00:40:37.000 Everyone who says it's like, we understand that you took Humanities 101, edgy atheists. 1.00

00:40:40.000 That's not what this is about.

00:40:42.000 We have the right to defend ourselves if someone walks into a mosque or a church with a gun.

00:40:47.000 Why?

00:40:48.000 Because it's a natural human right.

00:40:50.000 They cannot tell us how we can worship.

00:40:52.000 Now if the government does that same thing in saying, listen, I'm sorry, and this is what Ben Shapiro was speaking to, you can't take your child to that Christian school. 0.56

00:40:58.000 You have to Not a call to arms!

00:40:59.000 Not a death threat!

00:40:59.000 Context, context, context!

00:41:00.000 Let's the Young Turks try and take this clip and say, call to arms!

00:41:02.000 Look at this!

00:41:03.000 guidelines and they attempt to enforce it, which Beto was really clear about, means people

00:41:07.000 door to door with guns.

00:41:09.000 Resistance is an appropriate discussion at that point to have.

00:41:13.000 Not a call to arms, not a death threat, context, context, context, unless the Young Turks try 1.00

00:41:17.000 and take this clip and say, call to arms, look at this, bullsh**. 0.85

00:41:21.000 I want to make sure we're really clear. 0.97

00:41:22.000 The government at that point is no different than a man entering a mosque with a gun to try and stop you from worshipping freely.

00:41:29.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:41:30.000 And when government starts to take some of those rights that we've listed, it never goes to a positive place.

00:41:34.000 It's never a good thing for people to give up those rights.

00:41:36.000 And also, the government's only goal is really to get bigger and become more powerful.

00:41:40.000 Why would you want to allow them to limit your rights while they increase theirs?

00:41:44.000 That doesn't make any sense at all.

00:41:45.000 Well, I'll tell you why.

00:41:46.000 Because you know how you're paying premiums right now for health care?

00:41:48.000 You're not going to have to do that anymore.

00:41:50.000 Oh, so my tax dollars won't be paying for it?

00:41:53.000 Yeah, Bernie was like, PREMIUMS THAT YOU'RE PAYING NOW?!

00:41:56.000 YOU'RE NOT GONNA PAY THEM ANYMORE! 0.70

00:41:58.000 I was like, well, hold on, we're just... JUST CRIPPLING TAXES!

00:42:00.000 Yeah, exactly!

00:42:02.000 Well, I'm excited, you know, millionaire Bernie is gonna be funding that, right?

00:42:05.000 Yeah, he will be!

00:42:06.000 Is that book sales?

00:42:07.000 Rights in my health care fund?

00:42:08.000 He might have to sell his umpteenth house, or his wife might have to, I don't know, figure out wherever she funneled that money to from Champlain College.

00:42:14.000 And I remember that college.

00:42:15.000 I used to see ads for it when I was in Montreal.

00:42:16.000 I'm getting off topic.

00:42:18.000 Again, this is not a call for violence.

00:42:20.000 I want to be really clear.

00:42:21.000 We have to go to micro here in a second.

00:42:22.000 This is about establishing boundaries.

00:42:25.000 More importantly, it's about engaging everyone here, not only in this room, but if you're watching, in a discussion about boundaries so that we can set them before they are crossed in order to avoid any violent conflict.

00:42:36.000 All right, when you set boundaries and people know that those boundaries exist, for example, if someone says, listen, if I'm a law-abiding citizen and you send someone in my house with a gun, when my family's there to try and take my stuff, whether it's my flat screen, I was going to say plasma.

00:42:50.000 I don't think plasma's there.

00:42:51.000 I hope that was a midget. 1.00

00:42:52.000 Each with their own 50-inch plasma screen.

00:42:55.000 Think about that.

00:42:55.000 That was only the super wealthy.

00:42:57.000 Oh, damn unfettered capitalism. 0.99

00:42:58.000 Now I can get it at Walmart, a Westinghouse for $40. 1.00

00:43:01.000 Anyway.

00:43:02.000 But if someone, for me to say, listen, if someone with a gun comes into my house to take my property, whether it's a TV or a gun, no, I'm not going to allow it.

00:43:11.000 I will meet you at the door with a gun.

00:43:12.000 That is a boundary.

00:43:13.000 That is a line in the sand that if someone knows actually assists them in avoiding some kind of a violent conflict.

00:43:18.000 Because if you don't set boundaries, you're often the last to know when you've crossed them or they've been crossed.

00:43:18.000 Absolutely.

00:43:23.000 Your basic human rights, birth rights, defending them is completely justifiable.

00:43:28.000 I don't think it's controversial.

00:43:30.000 You know, if the government just said, we had slavery in this country, terrible.

00:43:33.000 Context!

00:43:34.000 Slavery bad!

00:43:35.000 Okay?

00:43:35.000 Context!

00:43:35.000 on a context!

00:43:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:37.000 Yeah.

00:43:37.000 Ha ha ha ha.

00:43:38.000 Whew.

00:43:39.000 Canceled.

00:43:40.000 Ha ha ha ha.

00:43:41.000 Again.

00:43:41.000 We had slavery, so it's not, and there's slavery across the globe.

00:43:44.000 Let's say the government, because Beto had an opinion, he did a hard flip to nose grind, said, I don't know if that's a term anymore, I don't know.

00:43:51.000 Not sure.

00:43:52.000 He did a, he did a, a goofy hard flip to, why am I doing it like Trump? 0.96

00:43:56.000 Goofy footed. 0.76

00:43:56.000 He did, frankly, a reverse ollie pop shove it to board slide. 0.76

00:44:02.000 On the wall.

00:44:03.000 And I am not a fan of the board slide.

00:44:06.000 I prefer grinding on the trucks. 0.99

00:44:08.000 Which is really stupid. 0.99

00:44:09.000 When you think about skateboarding and grinding, you have wheels. 0.99

00:44:12.000 It's like I'm going to slide on the sole object on my board, rough metal that has more friction.

00:44:19.000 Yes, that does not slide well.

00:44:21.000 So you're going to do a thing that's more difficult despite having the tools to do it?

00:44:24.000 Right, exactly!

00:44:24.000 Like taking away guns from people when they would want to fight armed terrorists?

00:44:28.000 Segway.

00:44:29.000 I see what you did there.

00:44:30.000 Look at that.

00:44:30.000 He's trying to bring me back.

00:44:31.000 He's telling me to wrap it up.

00:44:32.000 I'm back on topic.

00:44:34.000 He's giving me the red light.

00:44:35.000 We don't even have a red light in the studio.

00:44:36.000 I'm tired of your logistic jargon.

00:44:38.000 I brought one with him.

00:44:39.000 I brought my own.

00:44:41.000 So if the government were to say, slavery's back, You can resist that.

00:44:44.000 I think it's an appropriate response to resist it violently.

00:44:48.000 In that instance, and I would be with black people if they wanted to put y'all back in chains, right? 1.00

00:44:54.000 Why? 0.80

00:44:54.000 Because the government doesn't have the right to enslave people. 0.80

00:44:58.000 We only know that now because we fought over that.

00:45:01.000 It was a resistance.

00:45:02.000 I'm okay with that.

00:45:03.000 How do we set those boundaries?

00:45:04.000 That's the question you might be asking.

00:45:06.000 The good part is we don't have to guess in regards to this because we have the Constitution.

00:45:12.000 I can't breathe! 0.99

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00:46:23.000 I was able to stop him before he was able to do any real damage.

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00:47:08.000 I always felt sorry for kids dressed as M&Ms for Halloween.

00:47:20.000 No kid wants one.

00:47:22.000 I used to talk about this in stand-up.

00:47:23.000 You have one kid who's like, I'm Superman.

00:47:25.000 I'm going to save the world.

00:47:26.000 I'm a firefighter.

00:47:26.000 I'm arresting people from burning buildings.

00:47:28.000 And then because the kid has a crappy mom, I'm going to melt in your mouth. 1.00

00:47:31.000 I'm full of chocolate. 0.99

00:47:33.000 It's just a layup for bullies, really.

00:47:36.000 It's chumming for bullies. 0.94

00:47:37.000 It's a lot of padding, though, as an M&M.

00:47:40.000 All right, our next guest on that intro.

00:47:43.000 We wanted to get him on the show for a while.

00:47:44.000 He's a very busy man.

00:47:46.000 Of course, you know him from Dirty Jobs.

00:47:49.000 At Microworks is his Twitter.

00:47:51.000 He has a new book out, The Way I Heard It.

00:47:52.000 It's basically a collection of stories, and I believe it relates to his podcast, As I Heard It, which I've listened to a couple of times.

00:48:00.000 Very funny.

00:48:00.000 And he has another podcast on Facebook.

00:48:01.000 I want to make sure I get this right.

00:48:03.000 It's Returning the Favor.

00:48:04.000 So, so many shows. 1.00

00:48:06.000 And old ladies really want to have sex with him. 1.00

00:48:09.000 Not old ladies. 1.00

00:48:10.000 Ladies, I will tell you this.

00:48:12.000 My grandmother-in-law, if you mention Mike Rowe, she starts doing this.

00:48:18.000 And she actually does this.

00:48:19.000 I don't think she's that hot. 1.00

00:48:21.000 I don't think she's getting a hot flash.

00:48:22.000 I think she wants to let the world know that if you have him on your show, send him my way.

00:48:28.000 Mr. Mike Rowe, how are you, sir?

00:48:30.000 Well, I'm deeply flattered.

00:48:31.000 I'd love to see some photographs of the woman in question, and I think... She's 96, so... Listen, I'm no ageist, doggone it, and if she's getting the vapors as a result of yours truly, then there's no option but to be deeply humbled.

00:48:46.000 Well, I'll try and find a picture of her from her youth, because she was quite the dish, but I imagine that picture is just a pterodactyl with sandstone going... This jab sucks! 0.98

00:48:56.000 That's how I picture it. 1.00

00:49:00.000 Your book is The Way I Heard It, correct?

00:49:01.000 Correct. Okay, and the book is explain it for people who don't who haven't seen it yet read it

00:49:06.000 The the book began as a collection of stories on my podcast Which is also called the way I heard it which began as an

00:49:13.000 homage to a guy named Paul Harvey Which some of your listeners might recall as a great broadcaster

00:49:18.000 who made history and biography interesting by telling short mysteries around subjects with

00:49:24.000 which he was fascinated in his own life

00:49:27.000 I stole that idea, or at least borrowed it with some semblance of permission, changed the title, and started writing these stories on airplanes, and then recording them, and then to my wondering eyes, discovering that we had a couple hundred million downloads or something.

00:49:44.000 A publisher said, hey, it'd be great if you put this in a book.

00:49:47.000 And I said, okay.

00:49:48.000 And then my mother said, you know what would be great between these stories, Michael, is if you would share some stories of your own youth in a juxtaposition of sorts.

00:49:58.000 And I said, Mom, what are you talking about and why can't you mind your own business? 0.77

00:50:02.000 Because now she's a best-selling author, so of course she has answers to everything.

00:50:08.000 But she was right. 0.86

00:50:09.000 So what came...

00:50:11.000 It is a weird mix of autobiography and biography.

00:50:16.000 Truish stories of famous people I've never met juxtaposed with truish stories of my own misspent youth.

00:50:23.000 Coming together in what can only be described as a happy serendipitous nexus of mystery and memoir.

00:50:29.000 It can only be described that way because that's kind of flowery.

00:50:33.000 The language.

00:50:34.000 It's a little flowery and I guess now that I think about it we could describe it equally accurately as a hot Massive schizophrenic desperation.

00:50:44.000 Well, I guess, let's just say, uh, good and you should purchase it.

00:50:48.000 Let's just go with that.

00:50:49.000 Simple.

00:50:50.000 Easy.

00:50:50.000 Let's go, let's go with this.

00:50:52.000 I'm literally sitting here because I'm doing the book door and I'm looking at my stupid device and seeing that I'm number four on Amazon right now. 0.50

00:50:59.000 And before the interview started, I was number six. 0.87

00:51:01.000 So Steven, we're on a roll.

00:51:03.000 That's the power of the show that nobody in their right mind has any business doing.

00:51:07.000 I still don't know how we get senators and presidential candidates.

00:51:10.000 I'm like, did you see what we did?

00:51:12.000 We had Pharrell on top of a giant Christmas tree.

00:51:14.000 Um, okay, so I don't want to blow smoke here, but you've been successful in so many endeavors,

00:51:19.000 um, Mr. Rowe.

00:51:20.000 You know, you've obviously done advertising for- Mr. Mike Rowe.

00:51:22.000 Mr. Mike Rowe.

00:51:23.000 It's Mr. Mike Rowe.

00:51:25.000 Yes, you have earned it.

00:51:26.000 Sensei.

00:51:26.000 We'll go with Master Rowe.

00:51:28.000 Master Mike Rowe.

00:51:30.000 I usually prefer a coach relationship than a master relationship, but I'll allow it.

00:51:34.000 So you've been successful.

00:51:35.000 You've done so many different things, right?

00:51:37.000 And you've been successful in at least what we've seen in the public eye, all of them.

00:51:42.000 And you've done podcasts.

00:51:43.000 You've done books.

00:51:44.000 You did Dirty Jobs.

00:51:45.000 You've done these sort of documentary-style shows.

00:51:47.000 You did these commercials with Ford.

00:51:50.000 What do you attribute your success to?

00:51:53.000 I have a theory and then I have a personal story about when we first met, but I would like to hear, you know, you toot your own horn first because you're so likable.

00:52:01.000 I want to tee this up so that you can brag and immediately make yourself unlikable. 1.00

00:52:05.000 Alright, so let me try and approach this in the most humble, braggy way I can.

00:52:11.000 I was a really good show host for about 15 years, from like 1990 to 2002.

00:52:18.000 And during that time, I became facile at impersonating other hosts.

00:52:25.000 And so I was hired a lot to work on projects that were so Poorly conceived and otherwise doomed that no amount of luck or talent could save them.

00:52:35.000 But I always did a good job and so I had a business model that allowed me to do well in Hollywood by identifying losers and attaching myself to them and then getting hired again, etc, etc.

00:52:48.000 Thanks for doing the show!

00:52:53.000 My loser sense is tingling. 0.99

00:52:55.000 Tractor beam, suck me right in. 1.00

00:52:57.000 Sorry, continue.

00:52:59.000 So Dirty Jobs was a miscalculation.

00:53:02.000 It was originally three one-hour specials.

00:53:05.000 They lit them up because I was trying to do a little tribute to my granddad.

00:53:09.000 And in that format of Dirty Jobs, I was not a host.

00:53:14.000 I was more of a guest.

00:53:16.000 And I was in sewers, and I was hanging upside down from bridges, and in coal mines, and all these places, but I never had to pretend to know any more than I did, and I never had to try and sound like an expert.

00:53:28.000 Consequently, I wound up becoming a pretty good guest, although my appearance on your program might lead some to conclude otherwise, but I'm... No, you're like a vampire.

00:53:38.000 I have to invite you in first.

00:53:41.000 That's right.

00:53:41.000 And then you ruin the show.

00:53:42.000 Once you do, I will suck the life out of you. 1.00

00:53:45.000 Yes, pretty much. 0.98

00:53:47.000 And so what happened on Dirty Jobs was I realized that I could function as a guest instead of a host.

00:53:54.000 And once the show blew up, I suddenly became a guy who was really all about managing expectations.

00:54:01.000 So all I had to do on that show, we never shot a second take, there was no real pre-production, there was certainly no writing and acting and scripting and any of that stuff.

00:54:09.000 It was truly, my crew were flies on the wall, documenting the day that I had in all 50 states many times over.

00:54:18.000 And so people began to know me as a dude who simply tried.

00:54:22.000 I got paid to try.

00:54:24.000 And that saved my bacon.

00:54:27.000 Well, I think you're actually sort of echoing exactly what I was going to speak to, your authenticity.

00:54:31.000 Now, when we go to the web extended, by the way, remind me so I don't forget, I hosted some really crappy shows as well, some pilots.

00:54:37.000 There was one called Beat My Dad with MTV.

00:54:39.000 I think the NDA has long since lapsed.

00:54:41.000 I don't know.

00:54:41.000 So we'll talk about that off air.

00:54:42.000 I don't want to bore people with it right now. 0.99

00:54:44.000 But it involves Willie Galt and a girl kicking my ass. 0.99

00:54:47.000 I'll go back to it. 0.99

00:54:48.000 I want to hear that story.

00:54:49.000 But I do think there's an authenticity about you, that you seem earnestly interested in learning.

00:54:54.000 When I was watching Dirty Jobs, for example, it was something where I felt as though I was learning along with you.

00:54:59.000 And when I first met you in person, and I was just talking with Anthony Comea about this the other day, I didn't grow up in the conservative movement.

00:55:06.000 I was a comedian, and we didn't get Fox News, we didn't get AM radio.

00:55:09.000 So when I was at Fox, I didn't really know many people.

00:55:13.000 I hadn't really seen most of these folks, but I did know Anthony Comea.

00:55:16.000 I knew Jim Norton.

00:55:17.000 And I met you one time.

00:55:18.000 You were at the Blaze Studios a long time ago.

00:55:21.000 And I knew you.

00:55:22.000 And I don't tend to get starstruck.

00:55:24.000 And I won't say I was starstruck then.

00:55:25.000 The one time I got really starstruck was Clint Eastwood.

00:55:28.000 And I met him, and he turned around, and he said, I'm Clint.

00:55:32.000 And I was like, what do I say?

00:55:33.000 I loved you in every which way but loose?

00:55:35.000 Like, what do you pick from the catalog?

00:55:36.000 So I just said, and I walked off.

00:55:39.000 And then my friend was playing an iPhone game, and Clint walked by and goes, so did you?

00:55:42.000 Rescue the princess. 0.99

00:55:45.000 He's a crazy old man. 0.99

00:55:46.000 That's awesome. 0.95

00:55:46.000 Anyway, so I see Mike Rowe for people out there. 0.95

00:55:49.000 I'll be able to kind of exalt him a little bit here because he is humble.

00:55:52.000 You're sitting there and everyone's kind of crowding around you.

00:55:55.000 And I didn't want to crowd you because I could see you were the celebrity.

00:55:57.000 Everyone wanted to ask you these questions.

00:55:59.000 But I looked over and you looked at me and you nodded.

00:56:02.000 You acknowledged me.

00:56:03.000 So I thought, OK, let me go over, say hi.

00:56:05.000 I said, hey, I don't want to bother you, Mr. Rowe.

00:56:07.000 I know you're busy.

00:56:09.000 My name's Steven.

00:56:09.000 And you said, You did that documentary on Detroit, and you said, Steven Crowder, yeah!

00:56:16.000 And then you started speaking with me about what you liked from that piece of content that I'd created, and you took some time there, and that's not very common.

00:56:24.000 The only other celebrity I can say who did that was when I was young, John Candy.

00:56:29.000 He took some time to do Home Alone lines with me when I was about six years old.

00:56:33.000 So it seems like you take a genuine interest in people, but do you also have an abnormally efficient memory?

00:56:41.000 I'm sorry, what was the question?

00:56:43.000 I'm kidding.

00:56:45.000 Just because, to me, it was really special at that time.

00:56:48.000 I might have been 22 or something, that you remembered something that I had done.

00:56:53.000 Well, I'm pretty facile with short-term stuff.

00:56:58.000 It was one of the tools in that spasm of impersonating a host that came in handy.

00:57:05.000 I can walk into a room of people and typically remember everybody I meet for about an hour.

00:57:10.000 Then it's gone.

00:57:11.000 So, long-term, I tend to disappoint.

00:57:13.000 Short-term, I can create the illusion of genuine interest and curiosity.

00:57:20.000 I mean, I'm just completely honest, when I'm kind of out there working, that it's all about random access.

00:57:28.000 It's not about long-term hard drive stuff.

00:57:30.000 But, your piece on Detroit was really interesting to me because I grew up in Baltimore.

00:57:36.000 And Detroit and Baltimore are A lot like the people that I featured on Dirty Jobs.

00:57:42.000 They're unsung, they take it in the neck more often than not, and they're waiting for somebody either to make a persuasive case for their existence, or at least give them a chance to put their best foot forward.

00:57:55.000 So I thought you did that in a pretty refreshing way, and in some way, shape, or form, the people that I'm interested in, in our industry, in broadcast, find a way to make themselves subordinate to their guests.

00:58:11.000 I mean, Carson was maybe the best.

00:58:13.000 Yeah. You know, I mean, these are people who know that the next day

00:58:17.000 they'll still be sitting there and a new guest will will be there.

00:58:21.000 Right. And I didn't I it's a form of grace, I think.

00:58:26.000 And I didn't have it for a long time because I didn't have any certainty of where my next gig

00:58:30.000 was coming from.

00:58:31.000 Sure.

00:58:32.000 But, you know, dirty jobs fix that. 0.95

00:58:35.000 And you struck me as a guy early on who realized, you know, he was occupying a place in the food chain of content and trying to some degree to take the reverse commute, which is also something that's important to me, too.

00:58:49.000 It's not just about doing something great.

00:58:51.000 I get the sense that you look around and see where everybody's going and then say, well, okay, but wherever they're going, who cares?

00:58:58.000 I'd rather not be one of the herd.

00:58:59.000 I would rather maybe even go the wrong direction, but at least I'll go it alone.

00:59:04.000 No, I just go the wrong direction generally and I chase my tail.

00:59:09.000 I wish I could say there was a rhyme or reason.

00:59:12.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:59:13.000 We've already gone for a while.

00:59:15.000 I want to, of course, let everyone know your book, The Way I Heard It, and the podcast.

00:59:20.000 And we'll go to off air and kind of talk a little bit more, some inside baseball and broadcasting.

00:59:23.000 But let me ask you this, because so many people have seen so much of your content out there, Mr. Mike Rowe.

00:59:28.000 What would you want your lasting, if you had to pick one, your lasting impact, if you wanted to leave people with one concept or message from what you've done, is there something that you really think you'd like to be known for?

00:59:39.000 Because sometimes it's tough when you've done many different, like Clint Eastwood is a good example.

00:59:42.000 Director, he's won Grammys I think, was it Honky Tonk Man?

00:59:46.000 Actor, same with you, what would you want to be remembered for?

00:59:50.000 Yeah, people confuse me with Clint Eastwood all the time.

00:59:54.000 I would Well, from an entertainment standpoint, a couple of years ago, I read a letter that my mother wrote to me on Facebook.

01:00:04.000 She's been writing me letters all her life.

01:00:06.000 It's a story about how she lost her big blue purse at the Walmart.

01:00:10.000 I read this thing on my kitchen table, and I posted it on Facebook, and then I went off to the wars, and I came back a few days later, and it had been viewed 128 million times.

01:00:22.000 And for the first time in my career, I just had to laugh.

01:00:25.000 That video was me like this, holding my cell phone and reading my mom's letter.

01:00:30.000 And I reached a third of the country in a production that cost $0.0.

01:00:37.000 And people loved it.

01:00:39.000 They laughed.

01:00:40.000 My mom wound up with a book deal out of it. 0.99

01:00:43.000 I wound up with a book deal.

01:00:45.000 So many great things happened because one day I took the time to read my mom's letter from my kitchen table.

01:00:50.000 Totally, this is all way, way after Dirty Jobs.

01:00:53.000 Way after everything.

01:00:54.000 I remember we posted about it and I remember we got so much positive feedback from it and it wasn't political.

01:00:59.000 It was one of the first pieces that we ran on our Facebook page that people just said, this strikes a chord with me.

01:01:04.000 I remember it well.

01:01:06.000 And it was full of lessons and it reminded me a lot of stuff, of a lot of things that I had already learned but forgotten.

01:01:12.000 So on the entertainment side, I'll go with a piece of random, accidental video inspired by my mom.

01:01:19.000 On the earnest side, a foundation came out of Dirty Jobs called MicroWorks.

01:01:24.000 We've given away over five million dollars in work ethic scholarships, and now we've got about eight or nine hundred people who have been trained in the business of learning a skill that's actually in demand.

01:01:34.000 And if there's going to be a legacy from any TV project I've ever done, I can't imagine patting myself on the back any harder.

01:01:44.000 Than I am for that.

01:01:45.000 That matters.

01:01:46.000 Those people are walking around and I'm, you know, I'm proud of them.

01:01:49.000 And that was, is it microworks.org?

01:01:51.000 Is that where people can go to learn more about that?

01:01:53.000 That's it.

01:01:54.000 You can apply for a work ethics scholarship, or you can give me money.

01:01:57.000 Either way.

01:01:57.000 Absolutely.

01:01:58.000 I'll put them both to good use.

01:02:00.000 There's a Give Generously button, and it goes wherever you choose.

01:02:04.000 I understand.

01:02:04.000 We're a little loosey-goosey with the rule books.

01:02:06.000 No, that's the same thing that happens with me.

01:02:07.000 We have the studio, we have all these subscribers, and then I'll tape something on my phone, and it'll blow everything else out of the water. 0.80

01:02:14.000 I go, I should fire all of you!

01:02:16.000 I wake up with this pressure to keep you employed. 0.61

01:02:19.000 I don't need you.

01:02:20.000 I just need my roaming charges.

01:02:23.000 Alright, that is Mike Rowe, of course, at Mike Rowe Works.

01:02:27.000 The book is The Way I Heard It, available on Amazon.

01:02:30.000 Always worth reading this stuff.

01:02:31.000 We're gonna go to a web extended here for people who are not members of Mug Club.

01:02:34.000 Mr. Rowe, please stick around for just a second.

01:02:36.000 Here's some music!

01:02:36.000 We're going to wrap the show up on YouTube.

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01:03:58.000 Who realized that our bar is outfitted with Peixot's bitters but not Angostura?

01:04:03.000 Ugh.

01:04:05.000 I just noticed this!

01:04:06.000 What cocktail can you make with this?

01:04:09.000 A Sazerac?

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01:04:21.000 Thank you so much to Mike Rowe, by the way. 0.61

01:04:23.000 Long, web-extended interview for those who haven't joined Mug Club, where we just sort of talk some inside baseball about what it means to be a man, some horror stories, and hosting crappy shows.

01:04:32.000 It was a lot of fun.

01:04:33.000 Well, thank you.

01:04:34.000 I'm glad that you appreciate it.

01:04:35.000 Hey, you mentioned this to me, too.

01:04:36.000 I should let you guys know, we're doing the live stream at Texas A&M on Halloween, October 31st, the Halloween Spooktacular.

01:04:41.000 Of course, we're streaming it.

01:04:43.000 So it's not just the show at the venue.

01:04:44.000 It will be streamed live.

01:04:46.000 And those are always pretty unpredictable.

01:04:48.000 And I would like to say a lot of fun, but I hate myself for the entire duration.

01:04:52.000 And it's fun when it's done.

01:04:54.000 It is fun.

01:04:55.000 It is a pressure cooker.

01:04:57.000 We already have people now actually going to A&M and going through the venue and getting it prepared.

01:05:01.000 So it's going to be a whole song.

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01:05:35.000 All right.

01:05:36.000 I wanted to revisit something that we discussed a little bit early in the show.

01:05:39.000 We were talking about the idea of boundaries, specifically as it relates to a tyrannical government.

01:05:42.000 By the way, I hope you guys have my back when these clips get taken out of context.

01:05:45.000 No death threats!

01:05:46.000 Really clear.

01:05:48.000 Let me tell you though, I cannot express to you, as I grow older, the importance that I've learned when it comes to boundaries, and how important it is to set them.

01:05:58.000 With finances, with work, with relationships, establishing them with others, and more importantly with yourself, it's about as important a practice as you can take on.

01:06:09.000 You've got to do it before the imaginary boundaries get crossed.

01:06:14.000 Which brings me to something that ties into that, and it's been bothering me for a while.

01:06:18.000 This expression we hear a lot, and I heard two people kind of arguing about it in a debate, and it was just, it was awful.

01:06:24.000 The expression, an eye for an eye, right?

01:06:25.000 Now, I think some people just use that expression wrongfully so to justify acts of barbarism, and they want to disguise those acts as justice.

01:06:33.000 I think those people are wrong, okay?

01:06:35.000 But I do understand the principle of reaping what you sow.

01:06:38.000 But then you have this other expression, and I heard somebody respond with this, and it's a cliche.

01:06:42.000 You know, I'm not a huge fan of cliches.

01:06:44.000 The person said, well, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

01:06:49.000 But that's not true either, because then you run into the risk of not issuing any kind of just punishment, or any punishment at all.

01:06:56.000 Does anyone think that that's justice?

01:06:59.000 Well, this guy murdered a whole family.

01:07:01.000 Hold on a second.

01:07:02.000 We're not saying I, for an eye, murder his whole family.

01:07:05.000 Or just saying justice.

01:07:06.000 It could be the death penalty, which, by the way, I don't necessarily support, nor am I really against. 0.99

01:07:10.000 Whatever the cheapest way is to dispose of this human trash, I'm for. 0.98

01:07:13.000 As long as they don't get an IKEA showroom prison cell like they actually get in Sweden. 0.94

01:07:19.000 Google Alexander Gustafsson, who was a UFC fighter who spent time in a Swedish prison.

01:07:22.000 You're like, it's nicer than my New York apartment.

01:07:26.000 As long as it's not that whatever you think is most just.

01:07:29.000 Here's the thing.

01:07:30.000 We have a justice system in the country.

01:07:31.000 Why?

01:07:34.000 It consists of, word of the day, word of the day, we need to get PJ back in here, boundaries, boundaries is what we're looking for, as firmly rooted in natural, thus human rights.

01:07:43.000 But this whole expression we hear it all the time, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

01:07:47.000 I mean, it just doesn't even make sense on its surface.

01:07:50.000 It's not both eyes being ripped out of the face, for both other eyes being ripped out of the face.

01:07:55.000 That would be blind, an eye for an eye would, I mean, it would leave the world with some depth perception issues, at worst.

01:08:03.000 I'm sure you can ask Dan Crenshaw.

01:08:04.000 That's not a knock, but he would tell you.

01:08:06.000 He's talked about the depth issues, but it's like you can still function with an eye.

01:08:09.000 He's doing well.

01:08:10.000 He's going to be at A&M, I believe, after us.

01:08:12.000 But two things here.

01:08:13.000 I digress.

01:08:13.000 Two things.

01:08:15.000 It goes back to all of this due diligence and setting boundaries.

01:08:18.000 The first group of people who use this example, an eye for an eye, they mistakenly use it to justify excessive use of force.

01:08:24.000 A lot of people don't understand, and AudioWave, we were talking about this, that the context of an eye for an eye, biblically, was about actually putting limitations on the appropriate reactive measures to be taken.

01:08:35.000 So contextually, again, context over content, an eye for an eye

01:08:40.000 can be compared to a moral version of equal and opposite reaction.

01:08:45.000 It's meant to convey that the response should measure an approximation, the action that required,

01:08:50.000 that necessitated the response in the first place.

01:08:53.000 So contextually, it's actually about setting boundaries.

01:08:56.000 The second group of people who say an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, well,

01:08:59.000 they suffer from a lack of establishing boundaries.

01:09:01.000 And we see that a lot.

01:09:02.000 We see it with parents.

01:09:03.000 We see it with citizens.

01:09:03.000 We see it with politicians.

01:09:05.000 You can't just shoot down a proposed solution that has tangibles and concrete because you think it's mean.

01:09:12.000 It's on you to say what the equal or opposite reaction should be.

01:09:16.000 Because you know what?

01:09:17.000 If you don't take an eye for an eye, guess what you get?

01:09:20.000 You don't get an eye for an eye.

01:09:22.000 You get one guy taking both eyes.

01:09:25.000 And then your nose, and then your ears, and your head, and your heart. I don't know how he works

01:09:28.000 his way down. The point is, this is a sinister guy, this analogy. But in all aspects of life,

01:09:33.000 if you don't push back a little bit, unless there's a little bit of that tit for tat,

01:09:36.000 it's not just going to be an eye. It's going to be your life. And that comes back to boundaries.

01:09:43.000 We all have them. Many of us just don't know that we have them.

01:09:48.000 And so, unfortunately, our boundaries kind of become fluid.

01:09:52.000 And that's the thing about setting boundaries.

01:09:53.000 It's so important.

01:09:54.000 I cannot express to you enough.

01:09:55.000 As a society, it's important.

01:09:58.000 And more importantly, just as individuals in our personal lives, firmly establishing what it is that you will and will not do Firmly setting which lines people can and cannot cross, or you will or will not cross, about what is permissible, we can expand that to treatment of others in the United States.

01:10:14.000 Setting those boundaries is pivotal.

01:10:16.000 If you don't set them in stone ahead of time, you won't know what your boundaries are until they've been crossed.

01:10:22.000 And that's usually when they've been long crossed.

01:10:25.000 So I want you to do a simple exercise here this week, okay?

01:10:28.000 I want you to take out a notepad and paper, if you have an iPad and a little stylus, whatever that's called.

01:10:32.000 What's that called?

01:10:32.000 Stylus?

01:10:33.000 I think I got that right.

01:10:34.000 I'm still on the old Palm Pilot.

01:10:38.000 I want you to take a notepad and paper.

01:10:40.000 I want you to write down two or three things that you struggle with, okay?

01:10:43.000 Think about it.

01:10:44.000 Pause us if you need to.

01:10:45.000 Or it could just be things that are important to you.

01:10:47.000 Areas where you've found yourself maybe making the same mistake repeatedly.

01:10:50.000 We often do.

01:10:51.000 I want you to take a second.

01:10:52.000 Think about it.

01:10:54.000 Is it relationships?

01:10:55.000 Maybe with your family?

01:10:56.000 Maybe with your wife or your husband?

01:10:58.000 Is it your work or life balance?

01:11:00.000 Is it your health?

01:11:01.000 Maybe substance abuse issues?

01:11:03.000 I don't know what it is, but I want you to write it in the middle of the page.

01:11:08.000 I want you to write what it is that you want to accomplish.

01:11:10.000 Your end goal.

01:11:11.000 I want you to take inventory.

01:11:13.000 And think of what it is that's hanging you up.

01:11:15.000 What is repeatedly stopping you from achieving that goal?

01:11:19.000 Usually, there are a few patterns.

01:11:20.000 We all fall into them.

01:11:22.000 Now I want you to draw a square, or a circle, or a triangle around the goal of your, depending on how many boundaries you set, okay?

01:11:27.000 This is, I leave the choice to you!

01:11:30.000 The people!

01:11:32.000 I want you to pick some sides here, four, three, circle, I don't care, hexagon, I don't know, pentagram, whatever.

01:11:39.000 I want you to write the boundaries that you set on each side.

01:11:43.000 Could be really simple.

01:11:44.000 Your goal could be to lose weight, and you're going to write, set on that boundary, right alongside that line, dessert.

01:11:49.000 You set a boundary that you're not going to have dessert.

01:11:52.000 Could be a little tougher.

01:11:53.000 Maybe you're having a tough time in your marriage and you need to set a boundary on the language you're allowed to use.

01:11:59.000 Write that down there on that boundary.

01:12:01.000 Once you set it, do not under any circumstances allow that boundary to be violated by yourself or by other people against you.

01:12:09.000 It may sound trivial, but doing this is so important because everyone, all human beings have a limit.

01:12:16.000 We all have a line in the sand that can't be crossed, and we need to be honest with ourselves and everyone else that that line, what it may be, regardless of how uncomfortable it is.

01:12:26.000 Because if you don't have that conversation with yourself, and if you don't set these boundaries, if you don't draw that line in the sand ahead of time, you will be, I guarantee you, the last to know that it's been crossed.

01:12:36.000 And at that point, it's often too late.

01:12:39.000 The good news is it's easily preventable.

01:12:43.000 Take out the guesswork.

01:12:44.000 Hope that helps.

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