On this week's episode of MUGS, we have Donald Trump Jr. on the show to talk about his new book, "The New York Times Bestseller, and we introduce a new sponsor for the show, Black Rifle Coffee. Plus, AOC and Rashida join Jemele to discuss why impeachment should be covered more often.
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00:03:39.000The president's son, but he does not live in the shadow of his father.
00:03:42.000He has a book, he's his own man, and we're very interested to have him on the show.
00:03:46.000Of course, before we get there, we're going to be talking about impeachment today.
00:03:50.000A lot of people are asking why we haven't been talking about impeachment.
00:03:53.000So let me, question of the day, has the constant impeachment coverage gotten you more concerned than initially when it was being discussed, or has it just become white noise?
00:04:01.000And do you personally think that we need to cover impeachment more?
00:04:05.000Spoiler, I'm not going to, but I want to know what you think.
00:04:09.000My half-Asian lawyer Bill Richmond is here.
00:06:22.000It was a big deal because they account for housing market, you know, cost of living, and holding its spot as the worst place to raise a family, still Pedophile Island.
00:06:31.000Yeah, they've been firmly holding onto that for a while.
00:06:36.000It's a long streak, and you've got to appreciate the consistency.
00:06:39.000The mayor, though, is really militant.
00:06:40.000If you think I'm going to be closing Pedophile Island here on the 4th of July weekend, this place will be crawling with toddler tourists.
00:12:43.000In sports news, before we get to impeachment, Jezebel Reporter said, She said she'd have sex with the entire baseball team if given the opportunity.
00:12:57.000I may not know much about baseball, but I would work my way through the Washington Nationals team like a bulldozer clearing old growth forest to make way for a housing development.
00:13:14.000I do appreciate her candor in speaking openly about this.
00:13:17.000Often on the left, they kind of self-censor because I've actually, I've long expressed that if presented the opportunity, I would paperbag the entire WNBA and run into the horizon until I hear sounds of the ocean and feel sand beneath my feet.
00:13:28.000At which point, I'd have someone ready to greet me with a boat.
00:16:39.000So, context, while we talk about impeachment a little bit here, a lot of folks have, not that many, honestly, but some people have asked why we don't cover the impeachment, I guess, we wouldn't say proceedings, just the whole impeachment story more.
00:16:52.000Sometimes people say, like, is it, you know, you've seen these comments, is it because you don't want to run anything critical of your boy Trump?
00:18:24.000That he is, and I don't just want to, I know I saw MRC did a great montage of them talking, the media talking about impeachment, but what I want to specifically address is they have been saying now for over a year that removal from office is imminent, right?
00:18:38.000And that's when people, the story catches up.
00:18:39.000It's like, well, this time he's going to be impeached.
00:18:41.000If you don't believe me, don't take my word for it.
00:22:59.000It's not just saying, well, could he be impeached?
00:23:01.000George W. Bush, they want him to impeach.
00:23:03.000They have consistently been, if you watch CNN for 24 hours, and I'm never doing a 16-hour live stream again, we're going to do a special Christmas show, I'm not doing that.
00:23:27.000And of course if you watch the Young Turks you get eye cancer.
00:23:31.000And the reason, by the way, the reason they keep recycling this narrative, because if you just say, it's possible, there's a general impeachment inquiry out there, it's not news.
00:23:38.000You don't need to break your news cycle for that.
00:23:40.000That's why they consistently have to claim, no, no, it's going down today, it's happening, it's like a school fight, today at the bike racks!
00:24:31.000Stelter literally did an entire, and I'm not saying literally like millennials do, like figuratively, because you're going to see, literally did an entire segment when he wasn't talking about impeachment requesting that other people do his reporting.
00:25:35.000I've never seen anyone do an entire segment on Trump's tweets.
00:25:38.000Which, by the way, I'm pretty sure they have.
00:25:39.000I've never seen anyone do an entire segment on the African squirrel's nut-gathering patterns in relation to climate change, so we're gonna do a special!
00:26:36.000He makes himself seem to have such little, if any, redeeming qualities as a human being that the only criticism of him can be ad hominem and he can play victim.
00:27:12.000When there's a terrorist attack, we always, best practice is we try to wait.
00:27:16.000Or if there's a shooting, wait for a little bit of information because we're not really beholden to having the exclusive scoop because this is an entertainment show.
00:27:22.000We don't want to give people wrong information.
00:27:24.000We don't want to give people wrong information.
00:27:26.000One of the problems with the 24-hour news cycle is that they have to stretch to find things.
00:27:30.000But in this case, there are actual great stories out there right now.
00:27:33.000Almost every day, record-breaking stock prices.
00:27:37.000Anybody else's presidency, if that had happened under Obama, It would have been the front page story on every newspaper, it would have been the lead, it would have been the breaking story every single five minutes that it happens, right?
00:27:47.000And it's not even being really covered.
00:27:48.000It's like, oh, well, Trump tweets bad words.
00:29:34.000So then, the Democrats, they don't want the whistleblowers to appear, right, they don't want them to actually appear, they just want it to be anonymous, but they continue to contradict the official transcript and they say that there was some funny business going on.
00:29:45.000Of course, no identities are being released as far as the whistleblowers and they're not testifying.
00:29:49.000With the Democrats, and I understand we'll get into whistleblower laws and protecting anonymous sources, but with the Democrats, I mean, it's Always an anonymous source that has all the info.
00:29:58.000You should just pepper it in every now and then with something verifiable.
00:30:02.000A lot of people have talked about this.
00:30:03.000Rand Paul has caught flack for saying that the whistleblower should be out there in this case.
00:30:10.000What's the law here on the whistleblowers?
00:30:12.000So there's a lot of different whistleblower statutes, and the one here is related to intelligence whistleblowers.
00:30:17.000So there's a particular statute, and so when you actually look at some of the articles that are out there, the ones that actually address the statute itself and don't just speak from emotion, they say Look, there's a very limited protection here.
00:30:28.000It's only a protection from an adverse response in the employee-employer context.
00:30:34.000There's nothing that stops Congress from naming the person, stops anyone else from naming the person, other than the employer in a certain particular situation.
00:30:42.000And it certainly doesn't prevent the President from being able to do it.
00:30:44.000And so, when you compare these articles, the ones who know the law, or at least have addressed the law, say, yeah, This is just the way that it is.
00:30:52.000You can go ahead and name the person versus in this particular situation.
00:30:56.000Other whistleblower statutes are a little bit different.
00:30:59.000And then the ones who don't address the law themselves are just, well, I just don't think we should, or this has never happened before, and I don't really care if they want to get the facts.
00:31:07.000Or they attack Donald Trump Jr., who's going to be on the show, who just retweeted an article with the whistleblower.
00:31:11.000The whistleblower was out several weeks ago.
00:31:35.000And in this case, it's not a criminal trial, but they are making criminal accusations.
00:31:40.000So how does that... So one context to that is important that articles of impeachment aren't limited to just crimes.
00:31:47.000There's just a general kind of bad acts umbrella that could be used for articles of impeachment, which is this, you know, relatively new and gray area about where you're going to be able to answer the questions.
00:31:57.000But I think that the most important part would be why do we have in the criminal system the right to face your accuser?
00:32:03.000It's because when faced with the harsh reality in light and the strict questioning, People's stories will either stick if they're true, or they won't.
00:32:12.000If there is a whistleblower, and the whistleblower has allegations, the allegations are true, then the whistleblower should have, certainly there will be consequences, I'm sure, but there should be that ability to allow the highest office in the land to be able to address those accusations.
00:32:27.000I will say this, I don't understand the world in which the left... I understand that there is some gray territory with this law, and that's why I wanted to get your take on it, but what I don't understand is the world that the left lives in, where someone can come forward, completely anonymous, with no evidence at this point, and something that contradicts... evidence or whatever claims that contradict their previous claims, never face the music, never appear in court, we don't know who they are, and the president gets impeached?
00:32:48.000Like, I don't understand the game that they want to play.
00:32:50.000Exactly, and I think right now they're just playing the headline game.
00:32:53.000They're just saying, hey, we've got this secret information.
00:33:30.000Sorry, I meant to say that we have 19 whistleblowers.
00:33:34.000That's what my super hot Canadian wife tells me.
00:33:37.000We borrowed some from the Kavanaugh accusation.
00:33:40.000Every single one of those has either been retracted, verifiably false, except for Christine Blasey Ford, who it has been proven that none of her story adds up.
00:33:47.000Nothing brought up against Kavanaugh had any evidence or has resulted in any criminal charges at all!
00:34:24.000I think they will, and I think they will because of the showmanship that needs to go into it, as opposed to a legitimate basis.
00:34:31.000Remember, we say this all the time, anyone can file a lawsuit for any reason, it's the next question.
00:34:38.000There's no gatekeeper saying at the courthouse steps, let me read this first and decide if we're going to let it in.
00:34:43.000Similarly, even though there are procedures in place that will require them to jump through to be able to have the articles of impeachment, again and again and again we keep hearing the cry wolf.
00:34:53.000Is it two years ago that he was getting impeached immediately?
00:35:02.000Yeah, at some point it would make their case a little stronger, make it easier for them, and it would also make it easier for me so I wouldn't have to read your stupid questions about why I'm not covering impeachment.
00:35:24.000And, and, uh, and here's something else, too, that I haven't heard anyone else talk about
00:35:29.000It doesn't mean that it's necessarily original, but with all the recent impeachment hysteria, now it's been about the Ukraine.
00:35:36.000Has anyone stopped to consider The massive contradiction?
00:35:41.000First it was going to be impeachment because of Russian collusion, and that didn't work, and now it's the Ukraine.
00:35:47.000And by the way, Ukrainian officials, I don't know if it's the President, Prime Minister, several higher-up officials, have said that Donald Trump did not pressure them, right?
00:35:55.000The Democrats said that they're lying and they're just trying to make Trump look good.
00:35:59.000I don't know if you know this, but Ukraine and Russia are mortal enemies.
00:36:12.000I don't watch Russia Today because I'm not a Putin puppet.
00:36:17.000But ever since then, the relations between Ukraine and Russia have been extremely tense.
00:36:20.000As of right now, by the way, they have no diplomatic relations.
00:36:23.000Ukrainians have officially recommended its citizens don't even travel to Russia at all, and they've even banned some Russian television stations.
00:36:30.000And, by the way, though the Kremlin won't admit it, it looks like they've been sending in troops to aid the pro-Russian rebels in their efforts.
00:36:35.00010,000 people have died so far in the conflict.
00:36:37.000So, if Donald Trump was really Putin's stooge, which they're still claiming, by the way, the media.
00:36:43.000Why would Ukrainian presidents or prime ministers carry the water for Trump?
00:36:48.000If he is a plant for Russia, they would have every incentive to expose and damage Donald Trump as much as possible because they hate Putin.
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00:42:35.000Yeah, you know, that's sort of, you know, for me it defines the time.
00:42:39.000I mean, I look at what my father's doing, I look at what he's done in politics, and everyone's triggered about everything.
00:42:43.000I mean, you can't have basic conversation.
00:42:45.000You know, today's comedy isn't funny anymore because good comedy would be totally off-limits today.
00:42:53.000I mean, you know, things that would have been funny 10, 15 years ago, I mean, You'd get cancelled today for running with, and I think, you know, it's important to call this stuff out.
00:43:00.000I think, you know, my father's the political version of that, where he's sort of like, okay, you know, like, you know, we gotta go.
00:44:21.000Were you aware of how far the progressive left was going, or really only in the last three years?
00:44:26.000Well, listen, I think, you know, no one hides the fact that the media has always been left-leaning, but the difference is now they don't even hide from it, right?
00:44:34.000I mean, this is a big part of the book.
00:44:36.000I mean, you know, I'm an unlikely conservative, to your point, right?
00:44:38.000I'm from New York City, son of a billionaire.
00:44:43.000What we did, you wouldn't necessarily be around all that conservative movement, but I also have a mom You know, that escaped from communist Czechoslovakia.
00:44:51.000You know, I have grandparents that were, you know, blue-collar people from there, and they saw the incredible blessings we had in this country, living in America with our freedoms, and they're like, well, you have to come over there and see the other side.
00:45:03.000So I spoke the language at a young age.
00:45:04.000I used to spend a month there every summer with my grandfather, you know, starting at the age of five.
00:45:08.000You know, I've waded in those bread lines.
00:45:12.000They're not so glamorous like Bernie would love to believe, and I always said, you know, it's sort of interesting, you know, With all the people that have been subjected to socialism and communism, all this nonsense that's being pushed by the mainstream left and the liberal elite right now, how come there's no one from Eastern Europe under the Soviet side that would vouch for communism and socialism?
00:45:31.000How come there's no one from China that says, hey man, bring that crap here?
00:45:35.000We should do it here, it's gonna be awesome!
00:45:37.000How come there's no one from Cuba, from Venezuela?
00:45:40.000It's like academics Uh, and these guys, so I experienced it as a young age.
00:45:45.000You know, I remember the first time I went over there, my first memory, because it was the first time I was probably ever afraid in my life, and I'm not one that, you know, gets too afraid too easily.
00:46:17.000I've done it, but I remember the first time I went over there, I was literally pulled out of the customs line because I was wearing a jean jacket, which was pretty 80s cool, but it had the stars and stripes on it, and I had a soldier in a military uniform with an AK over his shoulder saying, like, why are you here?
00:46:44.000I just didn't know any, you can't wear that here.
00:46:46.000That, I mean, I just remember that was like my, one of my earliest memories.
00:46:50.000Cause I remember being afraid for the first time.
00:46:52.000Uh, you know, I say, how come it's, how come the boats only go one way?
00:46:56.000And so when I see this, my 93 year old grandmother, she's still alive and you know, she's over there a lot and she'll call me and, You know, Don, you don't understand.
00:47:48.000I'd say, you know, definitely have bouts of libertarianism in there.
00:47:51.000I think there's certain social issues I don't care as much about that are going to be, you know, that way that, you know, sort of, you know, I'm definitely live and let live, but, you know, you can't even be live and let live anymore.
00:48:01.000You know, the woke goalposts, you know, what is woke today I'm 100% woke today, but now I think you guys are taking it a little bit far 24 hours later.
00:48:20.000I spent some time in the book talking about that, using Martina Navratilova as the example.
00:48:24.000She was obviously a famous female athlete, tennis player, known lesbian spokesperson, been doing it for 40 years, probably about 35 years before it was cool to be doing it.
00:48:35.000And she came out against, like, the trans women in sports thing.
00:48:39.000Now, this is one of the most accomplished female athletes of all time.
00:48:44.000She says, you know, I just don't think it's fair to be competing against someone who is, you know, male skeletal structure, male muscle, you know, muscles, lung capacity, whatever it may be.
00:49:46.000And, you know, so, you know, I talk about that in the book, and, like, you can be live and let live, but hey, as a father of girls, like, You know, one of them who's a great athlete, I'm saying, like, I just don't think it's right.
00:49:56.000Like, by the way, where are the feminists, Steve?
00:49:59.000Where are the feminists coming out and saying, OK, come on.
00:50:02.000You know, you have women, trans women breaking every record imaginable.
00:50:20.000You can be the most live and let live person, And you're still a terrible person.
00:50:24.000I mean, one of the examples I use, you know, in the book, like, you know, I'm sick of being, I have plenty of gay friends, all this stuff, but I'm sick of being called, you know, a homophobe, or whatever it is, because I don't want to date a woman with a beard and man parts.
00:50:37.000Like, that doesn't make me a homophobe.
00:51:17.000And you have every single DNC candidate listing their preferred pronouns in their Twitter profile, and Julian Castro saying that transgenders should have the right to taxpayer-funded abortions.
00:52:00.000So again, when you've been through what I've been through over the last few years, sort of being A, the tip of the spear of the greatest political upset in history, Yeah.
00:52:07.000Watching that, but also the target of the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people with the Mueller report.
00:52:14.000I was the number two target after the president, because if we can't get him, we're going to put his family in jail.
00:52:56.000Uh, and when we got into this, you know, into politics, we gave all of that.
00:53:00.000We said we will not do any new deals going forward.
00:53:03.000Obviously, if we have a building abroad, like, wait, you know, you can't just stop building a building if we have a partnership that we signed in 2010.
00:53:08.000Then you'd be accused of being a slumlord.
00:53:12.000But we said, hey, we will do no deals going forward, no new deals in international business, even though it's a huge part of our company, a huge part of our revenue stream.
00:53:20.000We said we're going to stop because it's the right thing to do.
00:53:22.000Hunter Biden magically becomes an international businessman the second his father has some influence over Ukraine.
00:53:39.000It's because he's a brilliant businessman.
00:53:42.000I could be that brilliant, but you think that they'd be okay with Donald Trump?
00:53:45.000How about if I went to China on Air Force Two, Steven?
00:53:49.000And came back four days later, five days later, with $1.5 billion from the Chinese government to invest in my fund that no one had ever heard of.
00:53:56.000I mean, obviously, he's a seasoned investor.
00:54:21.000Well, let me go before we go to the WebEx.
00:54:23.000And I want to ask you this for everyone to kind of hear.
00:54:25.000What would you say has been most stressful for your family?
00:54:27.000You mentioned the biggest hoax ever perpetrated in the American public, the Mueller Well, listen, for me personally, I knew it was nonsense, but you still gotta deal with it, or you still have to spend millions in legal fees to defend, you know, this crap which was the Russia investigation.
00:54:44.000You can go play the tape saying they're gonna try me for treason, you know, punishable by death, you know, minor details.
00:54:51.000Now, I guess what was interesting, it took me 41 years to sort of realize that I have a lot more of my father in me than I probably thought otherwise.
00:54:57.000When you backed us in a corner, when you threatened our family, when you literally threatened our lives, when you do this, it's, you know, I don't have that usual sort of defense mechanism, like, let's curl up in a ball and die just because that's what the other side wants.
00:55:10.000It was a big sort of aspect of why I wrote the book.
00:55:13.000People said, you know, you should write the business book about, you know, the Trump family.
00:55:16.000I'm like, I think my father's kind of had that covered with the art of the deal, the art of the comeback, all of the, I'm like, But this is sort of newer territory.
00:56:26.000Even the audiobooks, you know, for those who are illiterate, I'm going to work on the coloring book because that's what the left says that I'm only capable of, so that'll be for you, okay?
00:56:34.000I'm waiting on the pop-up for people who are not Mug Club members.
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01:03:06.000And so I bought some shoes and they were too, you know, we're the audio way near the same size and they were too narrow.
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01:03:34.000So I wanted to tell you something here, a story that occurred this week.
01:03:37.000And I was talking about this in a morning at pitch meeting, and I didn't really realize this was something that I could tell on air, but I think it was Tim from HR who said, you know what, you should talk about that.
01:03:45.000So I was at the gym this week, and there's a guy in there, a black guy, who I know, and he's not, you know, he's really black.
01:05:37.000And he walks up, and he's this kind of guy who tries to bulldoze a conversation.
01:05:40.000He goes like, oh, what are you talking about, Bernie Sanders, taxing 90%?
01:05:43.000And I said, yeah, you know, talking about taxing 90%.
01:05:45.000He goes, yeah, yeah, well, do you, that's because, do you like your Rhodes?
01:05:49.000Right away, he's going to this generic socialism argument.
01:05:51.000And the black guy's like, black guy, what I love is the black, I don't want to use their name, so I am saying black guy, so whatever, you can be offended if you want.
01:05:57.000He says, well, do you like your Rhodes?
01:07:39.000So at this point, he goes, yeah, you Republicans only care about your greed.
01:07:43.000And the blank guy, he turns to me, so this guy, I will say, lovely guy, he's a little fickle, because then he turns back and he goes, yeah, but you kind of do, though.
01:07:52.000Right, like you Republicans, you like, yeah, like a lot of white Republicans, like y'all really care about money, like a whole lot, right?
01:07:58.000And I said, not really, I don't think so.
01:09:00.000It's very entertaining to white people sometimes to listen to black culture.
01:09:04.000Food for thought, and then I don't know.
01:09:05.000The Chicago guy went on the elliptical and that was that.
01:09:08.000But the point that I'm making here is this is a black guy who is not a Republican at all.
01:09:14.000And afterwards, by the way, he took me aside later the next day and he said, you know, You know, when you talk about disinformation, like, I think Trump is like, like, I think he's like a dick, but yeah, I do.
01:09:43.000That's before we've had thousands of people line up to go to school shows and talk about how this program or other programs have influenced their sort of political walk.
01:09:51.000It all started with me having conversations with people.
01:09:54.000That was the basis for Change My Mind.
01:09:56.000Sometimes people go, well, why don't you do more debates?
01:10:00.000We do debates in the show, but Change My Mind is not about a debate.
01:10:02.000Change My Mind is to showcase what I just described, how you can have conversations with people in everyday life and either convince them or convince someone who's watching you talk with them.
01:10:13.000In other words, when the Chicago guy horned in, I wasn't trying to convince him.
01:10:17.000But I knew that if I spoke articulately, if I didn't get mad, if I kept my cool, and I made my points, and I was speaking truthfully, that the black gentleman would hear my point, and he did.
01:10:27.000Sometimes it just takes trying, and when I hear people, I've heard this a lot, some people on the right, you know, they complain about immigration, and I do obviously have a problem with illegal immigration, and as it Relates to legal immigration, I do think that we should be pretty strict on who we allow in, and we should be picking the best and the brightest.
01:10:44.000But sometimes you have people who say, well, you know, the thing is, you just look at the demographics from people coming in from these countries, black people or brown people, they vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
01:11:25.000Because if I don't get some exercise in, I'm usually kind of a prick.
01:11:27.000But the point is, when someone says, this is a demographic problem, It absolves you of any responsibility as it relates to changing somebody's mind.
01:11:36.000And this is something that we do a lot.
01:11:38.000A lot of the time, people act as though everything is out of their control.
01:11:41.000Like, well, you know, that's just, that's the way this system works.
01:11:44.000Well, you know, it could be in your job.
01:11:46.000You know what, they only promote people who are the boss's son.
01:11:54.000We act as though far more is out of our control Then I think we give ourselves credit for it.
01:11:59.000And I want to ask, this is a challenge for this week to you.
01:12:02.000Which responsibilities do you think you've been absolving yourself of?
01:12:07.000I know I just screwed up the grammatical phrase and audio is going to kill me.
01:12:11.000Of which responsibilities have you been absolving yourself?
01:12:16.000What do you think maybe is something that you could do or you should be doing, but you've made excuses that are outside of your control so there's no way you could do it?
01:12:23.000Like, you know what, you're never gonna change, you're never gonna get more than, used to be, 3% of the black vote.
01:12:28.000Then Donald Trump came around, I think it was 8 or 10%.
01:12:46.000They could have absolved themselves, because you know what?
01:12:48.000There's a precedent, and no one else had done it.
01:12:51.000Just because no one else has done it, doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to do it, and doesn't mean that you can't do it.
01:12:56.000But it's a lot easier to tell yourself, this can't be done.
01:13:00.000And I'll tell you what, if you show me what it is, That you know or think you should be doing, but these responsibilities you've been abdicating, I'll show you what it is that should be at the top of your to-do list.
01:13:14.000So many people go their entire lives absolving themselves of the most important decisions they could make, of the most important actions they could take, because that's not only what affects you, your life, and your happiness, but everyone around you, and ultimately the country.
01:13:29.000I know that not all of you have a show like this.
01:13:31.000We're really blessed with this platform.