In this week's episode of Thick & Thin, Garrett Crouch, a stand-up comedian and host of the show's first episode, joins Jemele to discuss a variety of topics, including racism in the workplace, Pete Buttigieg's comments on abortion, and much, much more.
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00:05:42.000Hey, by the way, that reminds me, our guest today, we'll be talking about Pete Buttigieg, whether he's a moderate candidate or not is the question of the day.
00:05:49.000Have you heard him referred to as a moderate candidate, Pete Buttigieg of Indiana?
00:05:53.000And do you think that there have been any truly moderate Democrats since 2000, I don't know, take your pick.
00:06:01.000And I realize I just meant to say any moderate, but I said, and it sounded like I said sea anemones.
00:08:00.000We'll also be talking about Pete Buttigieg quite a bit today, and Michael Bloomberg, but leading the news, Bernie Sanders, of course, was the winner of the New Hampshire primary, scored a slim victory over former mayor Pete Buttigieg, and Sanders now turns his attention to South Carolina.
00:08:15.000That's the big story, of course, if you've been following it, where he's going to have to shift gears.
00:20:52.000So this is what we'll be talking about today.
00:20:54.000You've been hearing this quite a bit, that Pete Buttigieg, I don't care how it's pronounced, that he is the moderate in the Democratic Party.
00:21:44.000But actually, in the way you get the nomination, winning 1,991 delegates, it's Pete Buttigieg who, out of these first two contests, is actually out in front.
00:22:33.000And then we found out that Pete Buttigieg made a victory speech, even though there were zero official results, which, by the way, good for you.
00:23:11.000And the Iowa Democratic Party, they were caught making errors that strangely always seemed to favor Pete Buttigieg over Bernie, so you can look into it.
00:23:19.000I understand why people think the deck may be stacked against Bernie.
00:23:22.000I'm not willing to confirm that or say that I agree with you, but I understand why people might sort of express that sentiment.
00:23:28.000So a lot of Bernie bros think something fishy's going on.
00:25:26.000If you have a question about ravines, I'm your man.
00:25:28.000When it comes to the canals, I'm out to lunch.
00:25:31.000So Buttkeg, when we talk about immigration, I think the first clip we have is on immigration, right?
00:25:37.000Yeah, he says that there are 11 million illegals in the United States, and there are some arguments as to that number, exactly.
00:25:42.000But let's use the number that he uses.
00:25:43.000And he says that there are 11 million illegals in the United States, though, because the economy brought them here.
00:25:49.000And then he also clarifies that, or extrapolates, that the mission of ICE is illegal.
00:25:55.000The reason we have 11 million undocumented immigrants is because our economy needed 11 million more people than our system was prepared to admit.
00:26:05.000So another thing we've got to do when we do that reform is set it up so that in the future you can review every
00:26:12.000couple years how many work-based visas we need to keep our economy going.
00:26:15.000When our immigration authorities are given an inhumane and in my view in many ways illegal set of policies to carry
00:26:36.000They're quite literally enforcing the most basic duty of the United States government in ensuring the safety of our borders from people who could potentially break the law and can't be tracked.
00:26:46.000And the reason that ICE is necessary, and I know that there are a lot of people at the Young Turks and Samantha Bee who say it's a criminal enterprise, you know, they want you to think that it's the Corleones, they're saying, There should be no ICE.
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00:27:55.000We'll get back to immigration, but let's move on to health care because a lot of people say, well, he's moderate because he's not a radical.
00:28:00.000When you're comparing Pete Buttigieg to a radical socialist who spent his honeymoon in the USSR, he spent his honeymoon in the Zangief level.
00:28:34.000And that's a government-sponsored plan to people who want it, while letting others keep their private insurance, as opposed to simply Medicare for all, no other option.
00:28:53.000If you don't enroll in the insurance plan, The Medicare for All, for those who want it, according to Pete Buttigieg, instead of just being fined $695, I think that's what it was, right, under Obamacare?
00:29:05.000Instead of that, you'll be automatically registered, if you don't have insurance, in the government program, and you could retroactively owe as much as $7,000 in premiums at the end of the year, even though you never used the insurance.
00:29:32.000And their campaign is so out of touch with reality that their staffers basically said, well, it's not like you didn't have health insurance the entire year.
00:29:38.000You're just paying for something that you had that you didn't pay for before.
00:29:41.000Somebody's going to be happy about doing that?
00:31:40.000You want to create basically mandated.
00:31:43.000They say it's an option, but you have taxpayer-funded healthcare.
00:31:46.000And then, you want to extend it to people who are not even citizens.
00:31:49.000And by the way, do you see now the problem with abolishing an organization like ICE, who are designed to prevent illegal immigration, while you are simultaneously incentivizing it?
00:31:59.000And you are incentivizing it, by the way.
00:32:00.000Let's be honest, Pete Buttigieg, you've never done anything successfully yourself in your own life.
00:32:04.000You are incentivizing it by footing the bill at the American taxpayer's expense.
00:32:09.000They don't care about the American worker.
00:32:10.000People wonder why you've seen all these states that have flipped over.
00:32:14.000I don't think I've ever been more wrong about anything in my life when I said there's no way Donald Trump wins Michigan.
00:32:19.000There's no way because it was such a working class kind of union state and the unions were bought and paid for by obviously Democrats and then Hillary Clinton just screwed it up.
00:32:28.000She did everything possible to lose them.
00:32:33.000Because, according to Bernie Sanders, mind you, anyone making over $29,000 a year would have to pay more for this government-funded health insurance program, and so the American taxpayer will be subsidizing illegal immigrants, according to their own words.
00:32:48.000It doesn't mean that the American taxpayer, the average American worker, is racist.
00:32:52.000It doesn't mean that they hate brown people.
00:32:54.000It means that they don't want to be forced into a health care system, which they don't want to be a part of.
00:32:58.000A lot of them like their private insurance.
00:33:00.000And they certainly don't want to be forced to pay for people who have no business being here in the first place, many of whom don't pay any taxes.
00:33:07.000And the ones with face tattoos are animals.
00:33:36.000It's the place of Ben and Jerry for crying out loud.
00:33:39.000And you don't even need a permit at all to carry a gun, open or concealed.
00:33:43.000They have the most liberal gun laws in the country.
00:33:45.000There are plenty of Democrats who are still pro Second Amendment.
00:33:48.000This is a real problem for the Democratic Party.
00:33:51.000Pete Buttigieg, he signed off on all of the Democrats' most radical gun control proposals.
00:33:58.000And I want you to watch this clip because it's very telling in his own words as to why he is so pro-gun control and sweeping, constricting gun control legislation.
00:34:10.000Closing the hate loophole, the Charleston loophole, the Boyd-Randolph loophole, disarming domestic offenders, enacting red flag laws, extreme risk protection orders, banning the sale of assault weapons like what I carried in Afghanistan.
00:34:52.000Because what would be more empowering to a bloated bureaucratic federal government than removing your ability to say no at some point down the line?
00:35:00.000That's really what the Second Amendment is.
00:36:13.000And that's pretty important, because they try to say, well, the AR-15, it's the same chassis as an M16, only it doesn't have the automatic or burst.
00:36:53.000There's always this question of saying, well, isn't more today, we're having more mass murders, we're having more problems with these guns, but before the automatic weapons ban was passed, before the assault weapons ban was passed, before we got into a society that cared less about conservative principles and more about cultural and moral relativism, They all agree there was less mass murders, less mass shootings back then.
00:37:16.000So, wait, we have more laws, we have more restrictions, so is the difference not the amount of guns that we have or the amount of people with guns?
00:37:23.000It's the question of who's behind the gun and who's actually pulling the trigger, and that's never addressed in that entire list that he gave you about how do we prevent these kinds of crimes.
00:37:32.000And I understand that's more of a philosophical exercise, because the truth is, they're lying, there is an increased number.
00:37:36.000Well, even if you assume that it's true, it falls apart when you get past the surface of it.
00:38:33.000Democrats have been trying to pass these bills, the hate loophole, when I looked into it a little more, that would make it illegal to own or purchase a firearm if you've been convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime.
00:38:43.000So that's important because right now if you're convicted of a violent crime or an actual felony, obviously you cannot purchase a firearm.
00:39:31.000And then we used to play the penis game as a kid, which is where you would have to say penis increasingly louder in a public space to see who would be more readily charged with a sex crime.
00:42:58.000And not only that, but Pete Buttigig went as far to, while we're talking about the moderate, claim that climate change was a big cause of the Syrian war, and that if you eat hamburgers or straws, you are part of the problem.
00:44:03.000He thinks that we now have ISIS and people are being burned alive in cages because the 1.2 change Fahrenheit exacerbated Soleimani's male menopause.
00:45:13.000Because he also refuses to place any limit on abortion at all, including infanticide.
00:45:18.000And this isn't a radical position in the Democratic Party.
00:45:20.000We'll talk about that with Alan Dershowitz a little bit, America's favorite lawyer, after this.
00:45:23.000Because someone that must be conflicted if they consider themselves pro-abortion, pro-choice, but they think there are limits, there is no place for you in the Democratic Party.
00:45:31.000It's actually far more moderate because nearly every major Republican considers there to be exceptions for rape or incest.
00:45:39.000Not a single candidate outside of Tulsi Gabbard would name a point where you should stop the abortion.
00:45:48.000Remember, even the pro-choice group, the Guttmacher Institute, they say that most late-term abortions, this is important, are not because of birth defects or because of health of the mother.
00:45:56.000So when Butkey goes on to say in this clip, like, oh, late-term abortions mean there's some kind of terrible health problem, according to his own sources, he's flat-out lying.
00:46:06.000From pro-life people like me, was that you met a baby actually being born.
00:46:11.000There's a lot of controversy with Governor Northam and what it means and what time a woman should be able to have an abortion.
00:46:17.000I just wanted you to clarify because I found that statement to be pretty radical.
00:46:21.000Well, I'm just pointing to the fact that different people will interpret their own moral lights and for that matter interpret scripture differently.
00:46:29.000Partial birth abortion is something that was coming up in, like I said, Governor Northam.
00:46:33.000It was a huge controversy when he was running for governor.
00:46:35.000And I think people and Democrats, and there are a lot of pro-life Democrats in the country, want to know exactly where your line is.
00:46:41.000Because you will be the president if you win.
00:46:42.000Right, but my point is that it shouldn't be up to a government official to draw the line.
00:46:47.000It should be up to the woman who's confronted with the truth.
00:46:50.000And both things aside, after a baby was born, you'd be comfortable with that.
00:46:52.000But does anybody seriously think that's what these cases are about?
00:46:55.000I think that there are people pushing for that, yes.
00:46:57.000If this is a late-term situation, then by definition, it's one where a woman was expecting to carry the pregnancy to term.
00:47:04.000Then she gets the most perhaps devastating news of her life.
00:47:08.000We're talking about families that may have Picked out a name, maybe assembling a crib, and they learn something excruciating, and are faced with this terrible choice.
00:47:18.000And I don't know what to tell them, morally, about what they should do.
00:47:24.000She's trying to give him rope to pull in his lifeboat.
00:47:27.000It's like, here you go, here's rope, here's a life string, and he's like... And he's strangling himself with it.
00:48:09.000This is a gross disservice to women who have miscarriages, or women who want to have children, there are birth complications.
00:48:15.000Because if a woman actually had the room painted, had a crib up, and she's had a housewarming party, a baby shower, and they've done a whole gender reveal, which I guess is also hate speech now, maybe you won't be able to buy an AR-15 after that, I have no idea, according to Pete Buttigieg.
00:48:26.000But do you really think that this mom is the kind of mom who is going to abort that baby at eight or nine months?
00:48:32.000If there is a .05% chance of that baby living, that mother of course is going to go through
00:48:39.000with the birth because to them, going through the process of birth is a small price to pay.
00:48:43.000I'm not saying it's a small price to pay, but to them, even for the possibility that
00:48:47.000this baby, this human being could be brought into the world.
00:48:50.000Do you really even believe he's trying to pay a hypothetical scenario to tug on your
00:49:34.000Is there any clear moral line that we can draw?
00:49:38.000Fine, if we have disagreements down the line on week 20, week 25, week 30, can we just say that at the very end when doctors say it's almost never medically necessary to have an abortion, can we just say that that's the moral line?
00:50:21.000We are talking about a seven, eight month old baby that is still alive, but there is a
00:50:24.000strong chance that this baby doesn't make it.
00:50:26.000And so you make a decision to stop the heart.
00:50:29.000We are talking about a scenario where there's a beating heart, there's a live baby, and because there's a chance it may not make it, a doctor and a woman are stopping the heart of that seven, eight-month-old baby.
00:50:40.000And the statistics, the research, according to ButtGig's own sources show us it is never medically necessary.
00:50:47.000That is unequivocally, it's not nuanced, that is murder.
00:50:50.000That is murder, and I believe that a doctor who willingly does that should be charged with murder.
00:50:55.000And if you happen to be in Virginia, if you make that decision and the baby comes out, we have tape of them saying, this is what you should be allowed to do.
00:51:02.000You should make a decision whether you're going to let this baby live or die.
00:51:19.000When people say moderate, okay, if you compare him to Bernie Sanders, again, the guy who honeymooned in the USSR, the guy who said a 90% tax rate is okay, alright, I understand it.
00:51:28.000But remember they used to say Barack Obama was sort of leading us towards socialism?
00:51:31.000Pete Buttigieg is so far to the left of Barack.
00:51:35.000He's just past the median in a ditch, okay?
00:51:38.000Pete Buttigieg is to the left of Barack Obama.
00:51:40.000He would be the furthest left president that we've ever had in the history of this country.
00:51:45.000But unfortunately, because we are comparing him now to radical leftist socialists, the guy who supports infanticide, the guy who wants mandated government health care, the guy who wants to take away semi-automatic weapons, even if you happen to have used a naughty word at some point, is seen as a moderate candidate.
00:52:01.000Pete Buttigieg, that Sniveling, little mouth always open at the fair, Worm is being presented as a moderate candidate.
00:53:07.000I've heard of the coffee, but I choose not to support a brand that takes part in the military-industrial complex and the needless wars overseas that support an inherently patriarchal system that you're probably a fan of, even though you're some pencil-necked chicken hawk who's never fought a day in his life, but your uncle at Thanksgiving told you, rah-rah, America, this is how we do things.
00:55:17.000Alright, our next guest, no stranger to controversy.
00:55:20.000I feel like, especially with a lot of people who might watch the show who are younger, who aren't necessarily as involved in the political process, they know the name But they don't know everything, that he's sort of played a role in a huge part of American history.
00:55:33.000He is, of course, a lawyer, a former Harvard Law professor.
00:55:38.000Guilt by Association, which provides a pretty in-depth analysis of some of the accusations brought against him by these alleged Jeffrey Epstein sort of victims.
00:56:13.000And you can get it for $1.95 on Kindle.
00:56:16.000And it's really worth reading because the accusation against me by a woman I never met could happen to you, could happen to your brother, your sister, your child.
00:56:24.000So you should read guilt by accusation.
00:56:26.000I do get accused quite a bit by women I've never met, but they're not as grave.
00:56:59.000I don't make that many mistakes, so it goes pretty fast.
00:57:03.000But, you know, my phone rings, and I have to take pauses, and clients on death row, clients who are up for long prison terms, they have a right to call me at any time, so I don't turn off my phone.
00:57:26.000I think she does a great job when she represents people who are justly accusing other people.
00:57:34.000And she basically told me that she didn't believe the accusation against me, so I think she is one of the people who really can distinguish True accusations from false accusations.
00:57:45.000Many feminists have been on my side because they see false accusers really hurting the movement terribly.
00:57:52.000And that's what happened with my accuser.
00:59:08.000I don't believe impeachment should be used for partisan purposes.
00:59:13.000I also defended the rights of Richard Nixon.
00:59:15.000Even though I supported his impeachment, I thought he was being treated unfairly by some prosecutors, and so I jumped in to defend his rights, too.
00:59:24.000For me, I always defend the Constitution.
00:59:26.000If Hillary Clinton had been elected president and she were impeached on grounds of abuse of power, I would have been there defending her as well.
00:59:34.000So as I said in my speech in front of the Senate, I'm here on behalf of a principal.
00:59:38.000I'm here because I love my country, I love the Constitution, and I don't want to see the Constitution turned into a partisan weapon And I think there are some misconceptions here.
00:59:46.000I think the key one that we often hear is, you're talking about a trial with no witness when they talk about the impeachment saga.
00:59:51.000Most people have no idea what went on in the House, right?
01:01:12.000What would constitute an impeachable offense?
01:01:15.000What would constitute an impeachable offense?
01:01:17.000Because a lot of other people on the other side, well, I don't want to say other side because, again, you're a lifelong Democrat, have argued that these were impeachable offenses.
01:01:29.000Richard Nixon trying to get elected president, thought it was in the public interest to have himself elected president, obstructed justice, bribed witnesses, paid hush money, destroyed evidence.
01:01:38.000All of those things were crimes, high crimes.
01:01:41.000Perfect case for impeachment, the only case for impeachment in American history.
01:01:44.000Andrew Johnson shouldn't have been impeached, Bill Clinton shouldn't have been impeached, and Donald Trump shouldn't have been impeached.
01:01:49.000But Richard Nixon should have been impeached.
01:01:52.000Anybody who commits a high crime or a misdemeanor, anybody who commits treason or bribery should be impeached.
01:01:58.000But we haven't had cases like that in our history.
01:02:00.000But the framers rejected broad, open-ended criteria like abuse of power.
01:02:06.00040 of our presidents have been accused of abusing their power by political opponents.
01:02:10.000Do we want to make every president subject to impeachment if the House is under the control of the opposite party?
01:03:01.000And then the extortionist said, I'm going to say that you paid money to me out of Treasury funds.
01:03:05.000Had he paid the money out of Treasury funds, That would have been a high crime, but he didn't.
01:03:10.000So he wasn't impeached, and he was one of the people who wrote about impeachment during the framing generation.
01:03:15.000Yeah, I do think it is important for people to look at the founding documents, look at the framers at what they considered to be impeachable and what they specifically excluded.
01:03:30.000And I think we fell right under the latter category.
01:03:33.000And that's what the Democrats failed to understand.
01:03:36.000The framers excluded maladministration, which was one of the criteria for impeachment under English law, because Madison, the father of the Constitution, said that would be too open-ended.
01:03:55.000He also rejected implicitly abuse of power, obstruction of Congress, malpractice, all the vague, open-ended criteria that framers did not want to govern impeachment under the Constitution.
01:04:09.000That's the argument I made on the floor of the Senate.
01:04:49.000This is a very different context here, because you appear on CNN quite a bit, and they would consider themselves friendly to you for a long time.
01:06:10.000I don't think we're so concerned about the name there.
01:06:14.000Before I move on to that, though, you did write an article, an op-ed, sorry, in The Hill, I believe, where you talked about some of your friends at Martha's Vineyard that they've demanded, now, do I have this right, trigger warnings, so they can be assured to know that they won't encounter you or your ideas?
01:06:28.000Is this in the entirety of Martha's Vineyard?
01:06:32.000No, but we had a group on Martha's Vineyard, probably 30 couples that we used to socialize with.
01:06:38.000Many of them now refuse to have anything to do with me.
01:06:41.000One of them just wrote me an incredibly self-righteous letter saying, I can no longer be in your society.
01:07:28.000And we were, of course, close friends, but so was another couple.
01:07:31.000And the other couple said, no, you have to make a choice.
01:07:33.000If you invite Alan and his wife to the wedding, we're not going to... So you're a real-life Larry David, where you just put the MAGA hat on the seat next to you so that people wouldn't bother you.
01:11:23.000Alan Dershowitz, there's a long extended interview available on Mug Club where we talk more about Epstein and the sexers, all that stuff.
01:11:29.000So, next week some big shows coming your way as well.
01:11:32.000I think we have Rudy Giuliani on the show next Thursday.
01:11:38.000You sound like you don't want to be here.
01:11:40.000You're like this kid who's cynical about everything in college so he just insults things by saying something that sounds like it's not an insult but is meant as an insult and everyone's like, oh he must be smart.
01:12:13.000We were just talking about hate loopholes earlier today with the gun laws.
01:12:16.000And I do encourage all of you, look up hate loophole.
01:12:20.000And I want you to read the leftist sources and how they believe it should be closed and what they believe should constitute a hate crime misdemeanor.
01:12:34.000And that sort of combined with I was just re-watching Silicon Valley recently, if anyone out there watches, I think it's one of the best comedies in the last decade.
01:14:23.000It's because you know that people don't really mean it.
01:14:26.000You know that the people in Silicon Valley are not actually anti-Semitic.
01:14:30.000You know that Don Rickles, when he's roasting Muhammad Ali, hates blacks about as much as he hates alcoholics when he's roasting Dean Martin, which is to say, not at all.
01:14:38.000When you make fun of someone's mother, for women who don't understand this because we say the most filthy, depraved things you can say about someone's mother, that's what guys do, You may not understand, there are two mothers.
01:14:47.000Guys, you can back me up on this if your wife is listening, if you're listening in the car, lest they make you shut it off forevermore, okay?
01:14:52.000There are two mothers, we all know this, right?
01:14:55.000There's the real mother, who's a lovely lady, who you have respect for and you treat politely when you see her, and then there's the imaginary mother, to whom you do unspeakable things on principle.
01:15:05.000Just because you want to get under your friend's skin.
01:15:08.000The reason that you can make those jokes, and I say this deliberately, is because it's a safe place because you know intent.
01:15:17.000There's nothing more unfun than a guy makes a mom joke and someone else makes a mom joke and they're like, Because we're doing that, you know I don't actually want to hurt your feelings and insult your mother.
01:15:28.000Again, the intent behind Silicon Valley is not to spread anti-Semitism.
01:15:49.000They should be the creative space that is comedy.
01:15:52.000And something that's really important, the reason we often do this and sometimes comedy goes too far is because unlike a lot of arts, I shouldn't say unlike a lot of arts, but I think sometimes people give a pass.
01:16:01.000To music, or they give a pass to, I don't know, it could be poets, I have no idea.
01:16:05.000But a lot of times, for some reason, people think, oh, a comedian all of a sudden means it.
01:16:08.000Because there's no backup band, there's no bass, there's no drummer, it's just a guy talking into a microphone.
01:16:36.000But all comedy, to some degree, all of it, almost without exception, comes from pain.
01:16:42.000Every single bit, think about this, every joke or bit that you've heard, I want you to go through this thought experiment right now and find the pain.
01:17:46.000And we've seen people, my friend Mike Ward in Canada, lost before a human rights tribunal for making a joke about a make-a-wish kid in Canada who didn't die and he's been fined for violating human rights in making a joke about the kid not dying.
01:18:33.000And even in the case where there are people who are very clearly, very vehemently anti-racist, as you see on this show, or as you see with other programs, whether it's... Take your pick.
01:18:43.000Dave Chappelle was in the doghouse at one point.
01:18:46.000They want to accuse everyone of being racist, everyone of being homophobic, and they want you to believe that somehow comedy, what it's always been, is a secret racist dog whistle.
01:18:56.000They want you to believe that there's racism around every corner.
01:18:59.000Because it removes that safety of us giving the benefit of the doubt to most people so that we can enjoy our interactions and not be offended.
01:19:09.000In other words, at one point in this country, like we're talking about with Don Rickles or whoever, I'm just using it as an example.
01:19:15.000At one point in this country, the baseline, right?
01:19:18.000It was not that everyone was a racist or that everyone was a homophobe.
01:19:21.000At one point, the baseline was that most people telling a joke, particularly in a setting like comedy club or at a roast, were not doing it out of hate.
01:19:30.000The baseline was we presumed that these are jokes.
01:19:34.000We presumed we started off, the jumping off point, these are likely generally decent people who aren't hateful.
01:19:40.000And now that's been turned into racism around every corner.
01:19:44.000Everyone is a racist, or a sexist, or a homophobe.
01:19:47.000And now it's, well, hold on a second, what if the guy's gay?
01:20:31.000We remove the safety, ironically, when we talk about safe spaces.
01:20:35.000We remove the safety in trying to create all of these safe spaces for people who are offended by everything.
01:20:41.000We've removed the benefit of the doubt from not only performers and public figures, but now as you see with hate loopholes, speech loopholes, and laws that are proposed and supported by current Democratic nominees, we've removed the benefit of the doubt from not only performers, but everyone in our day-to-day lives.
01:20:58.000And that's how you have leftist liberals, progressives at the dinner table, with your family, who get offended, and sometimes there's a disconnect, you're like, I don't even know, why are they offended?
01:21:08.000Sometimes you're not going, I know we push buttons on this show, but how many times have you recently had an interaction where someone has offended you?
01:21:17.000There's nothing offensive about what I just said!
01:21:19.000And that happens to everyone listening out there.
01:21:22.000Pretty much everyone if you're not currently running for the President of the United States on the platform of the Democratic Party.
01:21:28.000This, you know, an example, you might have an interaction where someone might be offended.
01:21:32.000And again, what I'm talking about is a benign day-to-day interaction, not something where you're telling a joke, where, you know, you might be dancing on the line.
01:21:37.000But how often does this happen, right?
01:21:39.000You have an interaction you couldn't even compute as remotely offensive, wouldn't even enter into your mental equation, and it sets somebody off.
01:21:47.000This is really what, and I've been trying to examine why it bothers me so much.
01:21:50.000This is because most of us are still living, most decent people, are still living in a world where we give the general benefit of the doubt to people if they make a joke, if they express an opinion, even something that we disagree with.
01:22:06.000We might just say as a conservative, well hold on a second, what did you mean when you said that right there?
01:22:11.000And of course the left, today, when you look at these proposed laws and you look at the cancel culture, and I think it's sort of simplified but it really is an important point, they want to remove any benefit of the doubt, which is ironic to me.
01:22:23.000Because I think that we all believe as conservatives, and I talked about this with Dennis Prager, that human beings are flawed, selfish, sinful in nature, whereas the left wants us to believe that all people in centralized governments are inherently morally altruistic.
01:22:35.000If everyone is inherently morally good, that's the only way socialism can work.
01:22:39.000The only way socialism can work is if Pete Buttigieg or Bernie Sanders, anyone who actually grabs those reins, is inherently good and not prone to the human condition of being selfish and sinful.
01:22:49.000If people are not all inherently morally good, you never trust this much of your life to a few central figureheads in the government.
01:22:56.000So, the left looks at the world through a lens of everyone is basically good, but we don't.
01:23:02.000Then they also want to create an atmosphere of, there's also racism, sexism, homophobia around every corner.
01:23:09.000And that's how you know that it's a political tool.
01:23:14.000It's a political tool, and a lot of us aren't able to put our finger on it.
01:23:18.000That's how you know it's being used to selectively silence voices.
01:23:22.000And what I'm concerned about here is not just that, not what leftists want you to say, because none of us really care, but the culture of self-censorship that I see emerging.
01:23:29.000I'm not talking about the First Amendment.
01:23:31.000I'm talking about something that everyone out there needs to be aware of and you can control.
01:23:35.000A culture of self-censorship is more concerning than just the First Amendment.
01:23:39.000A lot of what we run into, okay, they're not, they're really not First Amendment issues.
01:23:43.000But it's really a bully pulpit culture.
01:24:23.000Now, granted, exception, if you're an actual racist, if you're an actual sexist, and by that I mean if you believe that people are inferior exclusively because of their race or because of their sex and you want some kind of a white ethnostate or any ethnostate, you should probably cover your mouth a little bit more, okay?
01:24:39.000But to everyone else, I want you this week to choose to no longer cover your mouth, to choose to stop walking on eggshells.
01:24:47.000Now, don't choose to offend, but if you have something that you want to say and you're worried about people, Reacting, I want you to check your intent.
01:24:57.000And if your intent is not malicious, say it.
01:25:32.000Progress is not made by getting all of the masses to self-censor and a few people in positions of power have the right to tell you what is and what is not okay to say.
01:26:01.000You might find yourself going through life with a bunch of other people who aren't self-censoring, and you realize, hey, this isn't half bad.
01:26:07.000It's just a few people who are running from the Democratic nominee and their complicit media pricks.