Louder with Crowder - #64 Sexy Time with Tomi Lahren, John Phillips, and GOP | Louder With Crowder

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00:00:55.000 Producing with me in studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.95

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00:01:09.000 This has been a crazy week.

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00:01:40.000 Oh, it's miserable.

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00:01:52.000 We have great guests today.

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00:02:01.000 Okay.

00:02:02.000 John Phillips is on.

00:02:03.000 Gerald Morgan will be on.

00:02:05.000 Not the athlete.

00:02:06.000 Not the athlete.

00:02:07.000 The other John Phillips.

00:02:08.000 Yeah.

00:02:09.000 Is there a John Phillips athlete?

00:02:10.000 There is a John Phillips athlete.

00:02:12.000 Okay.

00:02:12.000 Well, I wasn't aware.

00:02:13.000 And then maybe or maybe not John Kasich.

00:02:17.000 We have an exclusive Perry Matheson out there on the field, so we don't know exactly what we're going to be doing.

00:02:22.000 That's a busy guy.

00:02:23.000 That is a busy guy.

00:02:24.000 That is a busy man, Perry Matheson.

00:02:25.000 He puts Geraldo to shame.

00:02:27.000 Well, I don't think that's not...

00:02:30.000 Well, remember when Geraldo...

00:02:33.000 You're too young.

00:02:33.000 Do you remember when he gave away the coordinates?

00:02:35.000 He was out there in battle.

00:02:36.000 I do kind of remember something about that.

00:02:38.000 We are at latitude 48. 0.99

00:02:41.000 Here's a picture of my penis from the locker room, and people are just going... 0.98

00:02:46.000 I just remember when I was in Georgia, an Atlanta area, and this guy had escaped the courthouse, shot a bunch of people, and was hiding in some lady's house. 0.99

00:02:55.000 This was back years ago.

00:02:56.000 I don't know if you remember this.

00:02:57.000 And way before the police could get to the lady's apartment, Geraldo arrives in his helicopter.

00:03:03.000 So he's there waiting for the authorities.

00:03:06.000 For some reason, I picture him not landing with a helicopter, just hovering.

00:03:10.000 Just waiting.

00:03:11.000 Just hovering.

00:03:12.000 Just waiting.

00:03:13.000 Yeah, actually, I tell you what, I know Geraldo.

00:03:14.000 He was very nice to me.

00:03:16.000 He was one of the nicest guys at Fox News.

00:03:19.000 Some of the nicest people when I was at Fox were the leftists, to be honest.

00:03:22.000 And I think the reason was I didn't just treat them like a punching bag.

00:03:25.000 You know, Alan Combs, I would go on his show all the time, and it was, I mean, we actually try and do this thing relatively...

00:03:30.000 Well, but I would go on, and it would be a melee.

00:03:34.000 He would do it on Friday nights, and there would be two other leftists, plus Alan Combs and me.

00:03:39.000 And it was just, no points were made at that point, but he used to play these hilarious calls with people who just hated him.

00:03:45.000 The guy has a sense of humor.

00:03:47.000 Unfortunately, he looks like E.T. That's just hard to overcome in television. 0.62

00:03:52.000 I've never thought of that.

00:03:53.000 Every time I look at Alan Combs, I think of him in a cornfield going, Boo!

00:04:00.000 I can see that, but he looks a little bit like the signs, you know, Mel Gibson, alien a little bit to me, too.

00:04:05.000 Little known fact, easiest way to defeat an alien is the substance of which 70% of our planet has made, water.

00:04:13.000 That is extremely convenient.

00:04:14.000 I feel like with M. Night Shyamalan, it's just, how are you going to screw me this time?

00:04:19.000 That's what you're really paying for.

00:04:21.000 Speaking of getting screwed, so there are debates going on as we tape this live.

00:04:25.000 They're ongoing, but some big stories we want to get to this week. 0.82

00:04:28.000 Obviously, Mitt Romney came out in this whole kerfuffle with Trump.

00:04:32.000 That's pretty important.

00:04:34.000 Caitlyn Jenner.

00:04:35.000 I don't know if you've read this.

00:04:36.000 Caitlyn Jenner came out.

00:04:38.000 I love this so much.

00:04:39.000 And endorsed.

00:04:41.000 You didn't, well, you didn't know.

00:04:42.000 I had no until I got into it.

00:04:43.000 You told me tonight.

00:04:45.000 You broke it to me.

00:04:45.000 If things break, Not Gay George is never on top of it.

00:04:48.000 No, I don't.

00:04:49.000 It's not that I'm lazy.

00:04:50.000 It's that I just don't care.

00:04:52.000 That is Not Gay George. 0.97

00:04:53.000 And that's why he's fired all the time.

00:04:55.000 So, we'll get to the Romney thing.

00:04:58.000 Let's get to Caitlyn Jenner after.

00:04:58.000 You know what?

00:04:59.000 Let's talk about the Romney thing.

00:05:00.000 Everyone knows that when it came down to...

00:05:02.000 I wasn't a fan of Romney.

00:05:03.000 In the primaries, and I got in trouble with...

00:05:06.000 If you want to talk about establishment media, I got into some...

00:05:10.000 I was called into the back room.

00:05:12.000 I've talked about this beforehand.

00:05:14.000 Do I believe there are conspiracies at Fox News that they love or hate Trump?

00:05:17.000 Listen, right now Megyn Kelly clearly doesn't like Trump. 0.99

00:05:20.000 Many of their contributors clearly don't like Trump.

00:05:23.000 Bill O'Reilly loves Trump.

00:05:24.000 Sean Hannity can't get enough Trump.

00:05:26.000 Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

00:05:27.000 Just loves Trump.

00:05:30.000 I think people are people.

00:05:51.000 But the hosts and the personalities, I can say this.

00:05:53.000 I think if you can't get you, yourself, Milo, Gavin, Ben Shapiro, guys like you that think kind of in the same sort of category of people that reach in a very similar group, if you can't get the four of you to agree on who's the man and cooperate, I don't think the room full of these other personalities are going to agree and coerce some kind of...

00:06:13.000 Back.

00:06:14.000 Coerced, you mean?

00:06:14.000 Coerced, yes.

00:06:15.000 Coerced?

00:06:16.000 I was thinking, what, two funeral cars?

00:06:18.000 Two hearths are better than one.

00:06:20.000 I'm thinking, like, Harold and Maude.

00:06:21.000 No, um, yeah, I think you're right.

00:06:23.000 Now, I do think there are some company men in any media who take the orders from the top down, and I've seen that.

00:06:29.000 I've seen that when I've worked for media.

00:06:31.000 You see it with online websites right now.

00:06:34.000 You see it with online websites that will not criticize Trump, are only pro-Trump, and then you see it with websites that are all anti-Trump.

00:06:40.000 We've done both.

00:06:41.000 We've talked about, listen, I'm not a fan of Trump, but when he does something that we like, we'll run it.

00:06:47.000 There are some good things to like about Trump.

00:06:48.000 So that being said, let me talk about this Mitt Romney.

00:06:51.000 Not a fan of Mitt Romney.

00:06:53.000 He's just not...

00:06:55.000 It's a guy... 0.99

00:06:56.000 It's a billionaire Mormon with no sense. 1.00

00:06:58.000 That's the problem with Mitt Romney. 0.95

00:07:00.000 He has no sense.

00:07:01.000 Listen, if he really, really didn't... 0.94

00:07:03.000 If he really wanted to harm Trump, he would just shut his mouth.

00:07:08.000 Or endorse him. 0.70

00:07:09.000 Yeah, or endorse him.

00:07:11.000 This is one of the greatest pansies to have ever run for office.

00:07:14.000 A guy who couldn't take a shot at Obamacare.

00:07:17.000 We'll talk more about that.

00:07:19.000 The only other person in the history of mankind to sign a healthcare mandate into law.

00:07:23.000 Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, two people.

00:07:25.000 I held up three fingers.

00:07:26.000 I don't know why.

00:07:29.000 An absolute pansy, right? 1.00

00:07:31.000 Got Trump's endorsement.

00:07:32.000 I'm sure a lot of Trump money, but I'm sure everyone got a lot of Trump money that election. 0.99

00:07:36.000 And now, all of a sudden, he grows some balls. 0.96

00:07:41.000 That's my problem with Mitt Romney and the Trump thing here. 0.99

00:07:44.000 He's completely out of touch.

00:07:46.000 Listen, when Bob Dole and Jimmy Carter and all these establishment Republicans support Donald Trump, the media underplays it because that doesn't help them.

00:07:55.000 But when all of these other establishment types go against Donald Trump, that's why they like Donald Trump.

00:08:00.000 A lot of people don't even know what establishment means.

00:08:02.000 It's important.

00:08:03.000 We'll talk about that with John Phillips.

00:08:07.000 They're just mad at something.

00:08:09.000 And that something is perfectly personified by Mitt Romney.

00:08:14.000 I hate so much about the things that you choose to be.

00:08:32.000 The only person who's even remotely in the same field of inconsistency as Donald Trump is Hillary Clinton would be Mitt Romney.

00:08:40.000 Now here's something I will say.

00:08:42.000 I don't like Donald Trump.

00:08:44.000 I don't trust Donald Trump.

00:08:45.000 I don't hate Donald Trump.

00:08:47.000 When people use the term coxervative, this is just so funny to me. 1.00

00:08:51.000 It's a term for a weak man.

00:08:52.000 Is there anything more weak than just absolutely falling at the knees of another man like Donald Trump?

00:09:00.000 Say what you want about this show.

00:09:02.000 We've not done that with any candidate.

00:09:04.000 Ted Cruz came on. 1.00

00:09:05.000 We gave him crap. 1.00

00:09:06.000 Governor Mike Huckabee came on. 1.00

00:09:07.000 We gave him crap. 1.00

00:09:08.000 Carly Fiorina came on. 1.00

00:09:09.000 We gave her crap. 1.00

00:09:10.000 Right? 1.00

00:09:11.000 Carly Fiorina has bigger balls on the Trump campaign. 1.00

00:09:15.000 Trump won't come on, and none of his surrogates will come on. 0.88

00:09:18.000 They won't.

00:09:19.000 None of them.

00:09:20.000 And I know them.

00:09:21.000 I know them.

00:09:23.000 Scotty Hughes and Katrina Pearson, you are more than welcome to come on the show.

00:09:27.000 They've been invited.

00:09:28.000 They won't come on.

00:09:29.000 And it's not like candidates don't stop by.

00:09:34.000 That being said...

00:09:37.000 If the people, if the Republicans want Donald Trump, if he wins, he wins.

00:09:42.000 Right?

00:09:43.000 With the Bernie Sanders situation, I feel bad.

00:09:46.000 It's like he's winning by, he wins by such a huge margin in these states with these popular votes, and the Democratic Party is going to be screwed anyway!

00:09:53.000 It doesn't matter!

00:09:53.000 Because of the superdelegates.

00:09:55.000 It doesn't matter, you know, with Bernie Sanders.

00:09:58.000 I thought actually, because, you know, listen, he won that by a 22-point spread in New Hampshire.

00:10:02.000 I thought the popular vote was going to be so overwhelming for Bernie.

00:10:06.000 I think, what did I say?

00:10:06.000 I said between 30-40% chance Bernie might actually do this, or he might be successful enough, the Democrats have to bring someone else out.

00:10:14.000 That's what I was saying.

00:10:16.000 I think we were about right.

00:10:18.000 He took it pretty far, a lot further than the pundits who thought it was Jeb versus Hillary who certainly gave Bernie.

00:10:22.000 They just said he had no chance.

00:10:24.000 No one else was paying attention.

00:10:25.000 He's going to stay in for a while now.

00:10:27.000 It's more of a statement.

00:10:28.000 But that's what I hate about the left, the superdelegates.

00:10:31.000 They don't even believe in democracy, the Democratic Party.

00:10:34.000 I don't believe in democracy.

00:10:35.000 I believe in a constitutional republic.

00:10:36.000 That means at a certain point you get to choose your representative.

00:10:39.000 Now, I would not choose Donald Trump.

00:10:43.000 But if the people choose Donald Trump, and I was talking about this with my father, that's what it has to be.

00:10:51.000 This has to come through honestly.

00:10:53.000 And if there is some foul play from the Republican Party when the people overwhelmingly vote, we're not there yet.

00:10:59.000 Do you think we're going to see a broker convention?

00:11:01.000 It's possible.

00:11:03.000 And broker convention doesn't necessarily mean what I'm talking about, but I'm talking about if there's some dirty pool, if there's some dirty tricks that go on, if they try and go the route of Democrats and they have it as a systemic problem with the superdelegates, I'm out.

00:11:16.000 So listen to that, people, Trump fans.

00:11:19.000 I'm not picking Trump right now.

00:11:21.000 He's not my guy.

00:11:23.000 But if he is chosen by the Republican people, I want that to happen.

00:11:28.000 I do not want to see some elitists come in.

00:11:32.000 Because then you're not fighting for anything.

00:11:34.000 You're just fighting for the same system that occurs on the right and the left.

00:11:38.000 Listen, we should do it differently.

00:11:39.000 So I want to crystallize that.

00:11:41.000 We'll be right back.

00:11:43.000 Everybody was kung fu fighting Those kids were fast as lightning In fact, it was a little bit frightening But they fought with expertise This 1.00

00:12:13.000 is breaking news on Wilderwood Crawler.

00:12:16.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

00:12:18.000 We're taking you now to Dr.

00:12:19.000 Ben Carson's campaign headquarters as he officially eyes his pals to the nomination.

00:12:29.000 Okay, let's take a look here.

00:12:34.000 Oh, I think this might be...

00:12:37.000 No, that's not viable.

00:12:43.000 Well, possibly if I go there.

00:12:45.000 No, it doesn't seem to be right.

00:12:50.000 Oh, it's so clear.

00:12:52.000 Let me know.

00:12:53.000 If I go here and I go through that path and take this through Delaware, I believe that there's A path if I take it this way.

00:13:02.000 I'm sorry, sir.

00:13:03.000 My mistake.

00:13:03.000 Would you prefer to have the adult menu?

00:13:05.000 No, thank you.

00:13:06.000 I appreciate it.

00:13:06.000 I quite like completing these mazes.

00:13:09.000 I'll have the never-ending possible when you get a moment.

00:13:13.000 For breaking news on Louder with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson.

00:13:20.000 All aboard the unsinkable ship, the Titanic!

00:13:24.000 All aboard the unsinkable ship, the Titanic!

00:13:28.000 This ship's never going to go down or else they'll never be able to make a nine-hour motion picture about it!

00:13:36.000 All aboard the unsinkable ship, the Titanic!

00:13:39.000 Place your bets!

00:13:40.000 said I'll never sink.

00:13:41.000 I'll never sink.

00:14:11.000 Coming up after the break, we're going to have John Phillips, right?

00:14:14.000 John Phillips.

00:14:16.000 Co-host over there at KBC in Los Angeles. 0.98

00:14:18.000 He's a gay, but he's a conservative.

00:14:22.000 He's very, very smart. 0.99

00:14:23.000 I owe a lot to John Phillips.

00:14:25.000 Funny, too.

00:14:25.000 He's a funny guy.

00:14:26.000 He's a very funny guy.

00:14:27.000 He's a pro-Trump guy.

00:14:28.000 Here's the deal.

00:14:29.000 We've had a lot of pro-Trump people on the show, but no one who actually is...

00:14:33.000 No one necessary to make the case for Trump is willing to come on the show.

00:14:40.000 And that, to me, is very bizarre.

00:14:42.000 We don't really have an interest, you know, in surrogates for people like Rand Paul or Ted Cruz or Carly Farino.

00:14:48.000 We had her on when she was surging because we have access.

00:14:52.000 With Donald Trump, we didn't.

00:14:53.000 And I said, okay, surrogates.

00:14:54.000 Fine.

00:14:55.000 Let's do that, too.

00:14:55.000 Let's do that.

00:14:56.000 No.

00:14:57.000 Crickets.

00:14:59.000 You're more afraid of...

00:14:59.000 I mean, what?

00:15:01.000 You're more afraid of...

00:15:02.000 I don't know what's going on.

00:15:03.000 The guy's a pansy.

00:15:05.000 Okay, big news here going on.

00:15:07.000 You can bring this up on the screen.

00:15:09.000 Not gay, Jared, for people who are watching. 1.00

00:15:11.000 Caitlyn Jenner came out and endorsed Ted Cruz.

00:15:15.000 Yeah, this is true.

00:15:16.000 This is big.

00:15:17.000 For people who don't know, Caitlyn Jenner used to be Bruce Jenner.

00:15:19.000 Caitlyn Jenner, winner of the Olympics.

00:15:22.000 Caitlyn Jenner set the...

00:15:24.000 That lady set the men's world record for the... 1.00

00:15:27.000 Look at those gams.

00:15:28.000 And those balls. 0.99

00:15:30.000 Caitlyn Jenner, darling of the left. 0.99

00:15:34.000 We have the article up at ladderwithcrowder.com.

00:15:38.000 And Caitlyn said, about Ted Cruz, I think he's very conservative, a great constitutionalist, and a very articulate man.

00:15:44.000 Now, it does take issue with the GOP's evangelical Christian beliefs.

00:15:48.000 So Jenner goes on to say, probably one of the worst when it comes to trans issues.

00:15:54.000 And I have all my girls on trans issues board to advise them making decisions when it comes to trans issues. 1.00

00:15:58.000 Yes, Ambassador to the President of the United States, so we can say, hey, Ted, we love what you're doing, but here's what's going on.

00:16:03.000 If you read the full piece, basically, Caitlyn Jenner was saying, listen, he may not want to open up women's public bathrooms to men, but at least all my tranny friends will have jobs.

00:16:15.000 That's the short end of it.

00:16:18.000 Caitlyn's case, the long end of it.

00:16:20.000 So that's the situation.

00:16:21.000 Of course, what has happened?

00:16:24.000 Caitlyn Jenner's a free thinker, and the Tolerance Brigade has to come over that hill. 0.99

00:16:30.000 And they are coming for Caitlyn Jenner's head. 0.97

00:16:32.000 These people who, listen, in an ironic turn of events, Caitlyn Jenner has some massive balls. 0.79

00:16:40.000 Coming out and endorsing, not only endorsing a Republican, but Ted Cruz, not even Trump, not even Rubio, Ted Cruz.

00:16:47.000 That's a hard sell.

00:16:50.000 The irony is just so thick on this one.

00:16:52.000 So thick.

00:16:54.000 Fantastic.

00:16:54.000 They loved Caitlyn Jenner.

00:16:57.000 You want to say brave?

00:16:58.000 This is brave.

00:17:00.000 I wouldn't say beautiful and brave, but this is brave.

00:17:03.000 You want to add stunning onto that? 0.98

00:17:04.000 So let's read some of the tweets.

00:17:04.000 You can do that.

00:17:06.000 All I can do is sigh.

00:17:09.000 Little Caitlyn Jenner does not know what she is talking about.

00:17:12.000 Come on now, lady. 1.00

00:17:14.000 Jared, you can knock me.

00:17:15.000 Jared, you can bring this up on the screen.

00:17:16.000 I love how they're being politically correct by referring to Caitlyn Jenner with feminine pronouns, but still talking down to her.

00:17:22.000 Little Caitlyn Jenner, come on now, lady. 1.00

00:17:24.000 Probably the same kind of person who would be furious if you said it to a woman.

00:17:27.000 By the way, little known fact.

00:17:29.000 If you want to win any debate with a feminist, okay? 1.00

00:17:33.000 Call them a very nice, very polite, very kind nickname.

00:17:38.000 I had a feminist one time who just would not stop. 1.00

00:17:41.000 This was in Minnesota after a comedy club, and I was out with some people.

00:17:45.000 And she was one of those people, you know, at the table.

00:17:47.000 She'd have let everyone know she was a feminist. 1.00

00:17:48.000 And I just said, I said, listen, sweetheart, I just did a set.

00:17:53.000 I'm exhausted.

00:17:55.000 We disagree.

00:17:56.000 I just don't have the time right now.

00:17:59.000 Sweetheart, you just flipped! 1.00

00:18:01.000 Flipped! 0.97

00:18:02.000 Went absolutely crazy!

00:18:04.000 She said, how dare you call me sweetheart?

00:18:05.000 I'm sorry, you would prefer pumpkin?

00:18:07.000 And she just went nuts! 0.97

00:18:10.000 So that's a good way to win. 1.00

00:18:12.000 And for someone who's watching, you sound very polite, and the feminist sounds like the screeching, cackling, lesbian, buzz-cutted chain gang member that they are. 1.00

00:18:22.000 So just a little known strategy. 0.99

00:18:24.000 Just toss it in there.

00:18:26.000 Sweetheart, listen, ma'am.

00:18:27.000 Ma'am's a good one. 1.00

00:18:29.000 Miss, little lady, you know, bitch. 1.00

00:18:34.000 You use these words, and they get really touchy. 1.00

00:18:37.000 More. 1.00

00:18:38.000 Caitlyn Jenner is so ignorant, it's mind-boggling. 1.00

00:18:42.000 Caitlyn Jenner endorses hate-mongering, transphobic, homophobe Ted Cruz, proving courage and being a blithering ignoramus are not exclusive. 1.00

00:18:50.000 And here's my favorite one from It's Miss Kyla, a tweet about Caitlyn Jenner endorsing Ted Cruz. 0.96

00:18:54.000 It's interesting how Caitlyn Jenner still votes and exercises privilege like a white heterosexual male.

00:18:59.000 Well, listen, here's one thing we can agree on.

00:19:02.000 on.

00:19:02.000 I don't know about the privilege of identity politics, but Caitlyn Jenner may vote and exercise privilege like a white heterosexual male because Caitlyn Jenner is a white heterosexual male.

00:19:14.000 You can take the balls off the man. 0.99

00:19:20.000 No, I mean... 0.99

00:19:22.000 I'm not arguing that with you.

00:19:24.000 You want to say?

00:19:25.000 You want to come down on Bruce Jenner for being a white male?

00:19:29.000 I'm not arguing that with you.

00:19:30.000 We're not going to have a problem.

00:19:32.000 I am not arguing that with you.

00:19:34.000 Caitlyn Jenner's a white, heterosexual, privileged male.

00:19:36.000 I am not arguing that with you!

00:19:39.000 Okay?

00:19:39.000 We're good.

00:19:41.000 We find common ground.

00:19:42.000 But the hate, the vitriolic hatred toward Caitlyn Jenner now...

00:19:45.000 It's like, okay...

00:19:47.000 Let's make this clear from the left.

00:19:49.000 It is totally cool to encourage a demographic with the single highest suicide rate in the industrialized world, pre- or post-op, transgenders, to pump themselves full of cancerous estrogen and other unknown hormones with unknown side effects long-term in their body. 1.00

00:20:06.000 It is perfectly acceptable for this person to toss on a dress and go into the ladies' room. 1.00

00:20:18.000 But if said person believes in a constitutionally limited government, well, we've got to draw the line somewhere.

00:20:29.000 Like, they're so upset, you'd think Caitlyn Jenner was putting Canadian quarters in the vending machine.

00:20:34.000 They just...

00:20:35.000 Well, I remember when he, she, it first came out.

00:20:38.000 If you remember this, back when...

00:20:40.000 Was it the Diana Ross interview?

00:20:42.000 I forget.

00:20:42.000 I forget what it was.

00:20:43.000 It came out.

00:20:43.000 Diana Ross.

00:20:44.000 Diana Ross.

00:20:45.000 I don't know.

00:20:45.000 These people...

00:20:46.000 Diane Sawyer.

00:20:47.000 They're all the same...

00:20:47.000 Diane Sawyer.

00:20:48.000 Tweet your hatred to Not Gay Jared.

00:20:51.000 Diana Ross.

00:20:52.000 Do you know who Diana Ross is?

00:20:53.000 Yes.

00:20:54.000 Who is Diana Ross? 1.00

00:20:54.000 Not White. 1.00

00:20:56.000 Okay, that's a start.

00:20:58.000 Singer.

00:20:59.000 Yes.

00:21:00.000 Okay.

00:21:01.000 Who's Diane Sawyer? 1.00

00:21:03.000 The broad I'm getting to.

00:21:06.000 Okay.

00:21:07.000 The sweetheart you're getting to.

00:21:08.000 The sweetheart. 0.70

00:21:09.000 Yes.

00:21:09.000 The lovely lady.

00:21:10.000 Yes.

00:21:10.000 The lovely, lovely lady.

00:21:11.000 But you remember, when it first came out, we were preparing for the transition.

00:21:15.000 We were waiting for the announcement.

00:21:17.000 And in the interview, Bruce kind of slips in there, I'm a Republican.

00:21:20.000 And that's what everyone was so upset about.

00:21:23.000 So upset.

00:21:23.000 Yeah.

00:21:24.000 We saw the long hair.

00:21:25.000 We saw it was right before the big transition.

00:21:27.000 Remember that.

00:21:28.000 Right.

00:21:29.000 Um...

00:21:33.000 Sorry, I just lost my train of thought.

00:21:35.000 We're talking about Caitlyn Jenner.

00:21:36.000 I can never keep it straight.

00:21:38.000 We have, oh, John Phillips coming up next.

00:21:38.000 Five seconds.

00:21:40.000 Sweetheart, what are you doing? what are you doing?

00:22:02.000 Stop playing with your food.

00:22:03.000 It's not proper. 0.89

00:22:05.000 Screw you, future husband Billy Zane! 1.00

00:22:08.000 No one in this societal class understands me. 0.99

00:22:12.000 Oh, my God.

00:22:41.000 we are here with our very first guest.

00:22:42.000 Someone who hasn't been on the program before, but has been a good friend to me behind the scenes.

00:22:47.000 I'm a fan of the guy.

00:22:48.000 We don't agree on everything.

00:22:49.000 He's, of course, a host over there in Los Angeles, if you're listening there, on KABC from 3 to 6.

00:22:55.000 And you can follow him on Twitter at JohnnyDon'tLikeJohnPhillips.

00:23:00.000 How are you, sir?

00:23:01.000 Hello, I'm fantastic.

00:23:02.000 How are you? 0.97

00:23:03.000 Well, and listen to that broadcast voice, not gay, Jared. 1.00

00:23:05.000 I hear the difference between a real pro... 0.91

00:23:07.000 Between you, yeah.

00:23:09.000 It's night and day, man.

00:23:11.000 It is night and day.

00:23:13.000 But you don't have to have a voice like Johnny.

00:23:16.000 You just have to have a voice that's interesting.

00:23:18.000 Neither of which do I have, so it's irrelevant to the point.

00:23:22.000 You know, I don't think it's the voice.

00:23:23.000 I think it's the acoustics from broadcasting from Hitler's bunker here in my office.

00:23:27.000 Which I have decorated quite nicely with my Donald Trump bobblehead doll.

00:23:31.000 This is true.

00:23:32.000 Well, it's very fitting.

00:23:33.000 And my mind opener.

00:23:34.000 This is true.

00:23:35.000 It's the perfect analogy which we can get into.

00:23:38.000 So, right off the bat, John and I don't agree on everything.

00:23:42.000 Now, you have been one of the biggest pro-Trump voices.

00:23:46.000 You've been consistent on it for a long time.

00:23:48.000 I think you're well aware that I am not.

00:23:50.000 But we've had everyone out.

00:23:51.000 We've had pro-Trump people, we've had anti-Trump people, we've had Rubio people, we've had Cruz people.

00:23:56.000 To preface it, you wouldn't consider yourself a conservative.

00:24:00.000 You're a Republican.

00:24:00.000 You're still pro-choice.

00:24:02.000 What issues do you part ways with a Republican?

00:24:04.000 No, I consider myself to be quite conservative.

00:24:07.000 I am pro-choice.

00:24:08.000 I favor gay marriage. 1.00

00:24:10.000 I favor assisted suicide.

00:24:13.000 So I differ on some of the social issues.

00:24:16.000 But I want to keep government out of my life. 0.72

00:24:18.000 I want to keep taxes low and I want to brutalize criminals.

00:24:21.000 So I consider myself to be a good Republican.

00:24:24.000 See, you just said Republican.

00:24:25.000 Yeah, I'm a conservative Republican.

00:24:27.000 Okay, well I don't want to mischaracterize you because I don't want to say conservative.

00:24:30.000 Yeah, I'm not a social conservative, but I would consider myself to be like a Barry Goldwater type.

00:24:37.000 Okay.

00:24:38.000 Barry Goldwater type.

00:24:39.000 I guess I'm trying to think where he would line up on life.

00:24:43.000 I mean, I guess you call yourself more just sort of a libertarian at that point, but you don't use the term.

00:24:47.000 I'm not a libertarian because I can enjoy a little fascism every now and then.

00:24:53.000 We all can.

00:24:57.000 No, I do want aggressive police.

00:25:00.000 I want, you know, I want the government to protect the border.

00:25:03.000 I want a military that is well-equipped to deal with bad actors.

00:25:08.000 So, no, I'm not a libertarian.

00:25:11.000 Wow, he's very nice.

00:25:15.000 Are we talking about a freaky Kim Jong-un or Mr.

00:25:19.000 Ahmadinejad there?

00:25:20.000 Oh, yeah, no.

00:25:22.000 Definitely, I'd have something...

00:25:24.000 Something real nice in the Air Force for a little Kim. 0.99

00:25:29.000 Well, the good thing is, right now the heat's on Beyonce, so your little Kim reference falls mainly on deaf ears, but not for me. 1.00

00:25:37.000 I got so much flack about that this, we had a column go viral where I wrote, Dear Beyonce, it's not because you're black, it's because you're a whore. 1.00

00:25:44.000 And Facebook... 0.99

00:25:45.000 Well, they removed it, and then it got put back up.

00:25:48.000 So that's what's a little bit, I think, weird for most people about you.

00:25:52.000 So, you know, full disclosure, people listening, John Phillips is openly gay, but you don't make it your selling point, unlike a lot of other people, whether it's the left or right.

00:26:00.000 You really don't play the identity politics.

00:26:03.000 I do in one sense.

00:26:05.000 I know that...

00:26:08.000 You know, in 2008, a lot of black people voted for Barack Obama because he was black.

00:26:13.000 In this election, Hillary Clinton is hoping that women vote for her because she's a woman. 1.00

00:26:21.000 I can, on occasion, vote for one of the tribe.

00:26:24.000 I always vote for the alcoholic.

00:26:26.000 Okay, well, that works.

00:26:30.000 That's fair.

00:26:30.000 That's very reasonable.

00:26:31.000 I don't think Donald Trump drinks.

00:26:33.000 That's true.

00:26:34.000 He doesn't drink at all.

00:26:35.000 Trump vodka, I mean, it was horrible, it went under, but I don't think he drinks personally, does he?

00:26:38.000 Yeah, he's a teetotaler.

00:26:39.000 He's the one sober man I actually trust.

00:26:42.000 Why?

00:26:44.000 Well, because people who are sober usually are a lot boring and unfriendly to be around.

00:26:50.000 Well, okay, so you're saying it's consistent with a sober person to be so serious.

00:26:54.000 Yeah.

00:26:54.000 My dad told me never trust a man that doesn't drink, never trust a man that doesn't swear, and never trust a man with facial hair.

00:26:59.000 And I've stuck to that.

00:27:01.000 Except for Donald Trump.

00:27:03.000 Yes.

00:27:03.000 So you're in the school of Ann Coulter, where everything that you said before we should just discard because let's enjoy the show.

00:27:10.000 No, look, I think Donald Trump would be great for the country.

00:27:13.000 Donald Trump has put an issue on the map that wouldn't be here if not for Donald Trump, and that is illegal immigration.

00:27:20.000 The elites in both parties believe on really the top three issues facing most Americans, and that is they believe in open borders, they believe in trade deals that are horrible for the country, and they believe in aggressive foreign wars.

00:27:36.000 They believe in creating stability and resource-rich portions of the world.

00:27:40.000 And I think that those three things Of late have been a complete and total disaster.

00:27:45.000 And you're not going to get a Jeb Bush who the establishment wanted originally.

00:27:49.000 Oh, hold on a second.

00:27:50.000 I'm sorry.

00:27:51.000 Let's not go down that line.

00:27:52.000 No one ever thought it was going to be Jeb Bush.

00:27:55.000 If you were surrounded by anyone who thought Jeb Bush was relevant, they should immediately be fired.

00:27:59.000 I was just dumbfounded that Fox News even brought him out.

00:28:01.000 Let's not do the Jeb Bush thing, okay?

00:28:04.000 Well, that's who the elites wanted.

00:28:05.000 The elites wanted Jeb versus Hillary. 0.93

00:28:07.000 Okay, well then if we do that, can we at least agree the elites absolutely despise Cruz.

00:28:11.000 They much prefer Donald Trump.

00:28:14.000 I think they hate them both equally.

00:28:15.000 Okay, that's fair.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, I was talking to one of my plutocrat friends the other day, and she was just wringing her hands over who she was going to support if it ended up being Trump versus Cruz.

00:28:26.000 She's a Kasich supporter, but she would have been...

00:28:29.000 Wait, what?

00:28:30.000 Yes, she's a big Republican fundraiser in California, and she would have supported Jeb had Jeb been in the race by the time...

00:28:37.000 No, no, no.

00:28:38.000 Kasich?

00:28:39.000 Kasich, yes.

00:28:41.000 Well, I had heard about this person until today.

00:28:45.000 Ladies and gentlemen, John Phillips has found John Kasich's fan.

00:28:49.000 You know what's bad?

00:28:51.000 He used to be a kick-ass congressman, too.

00:28:53.000 I don't know what the hell happened to him.

00:28:55.000 Yeah, he was one of these guys that would go on these foreign trips that everyone treats as a junket where you get to go play golf in some foreign country.

00:29:05.000 And he'd get off the plane and he'd get in the face of all these foreign dictators and tell them what for.

00:29:10.000 And then he'd lose his temper and leave the country and fly back home.

00:29:13.000 And his obsession was balancing the budget.

00:29:16.000 He was like the first Republican in Congress to come up with an alternate budget.

00:29:19.000 He was fantastic.

00:29:20.000 And then he becomes governor and he becomes the leader of an AA meeting.

00:29:25.000 I don't get it.

00:29:27.000 Well, I'm noticing a trend with you coming back to the alcohol.

00:29:31.000 And it's funny.

00:29:33.000 Do you remember this?

00:29:34.000 Now, you were in New York.

00:29:36.000 Did you even know about the rumors that circulated that I was gay?

00:29:40.000 No, I didn't.

00:29:41.000 Well, because remember we went to that place, which is a well-known hangout, where I guess people more so have that persuasion.

00:29:47.000 Yeah, it was a thing for a while, and I thought it was hysterical.

00:29:52.000 But anyways, long story short, John Phillips, tall slender man, but he can hold his liquor.

00:29:58.000 I learned that at a...

00:29:59.000 Do we see the Ducks?

00:30:00.000 That's right, we saw hockey.

00:30:01.000 We saw hockey together, and it was the worst hockey game I'd ever seen.

00:30:04.000 Yes, in fact, Ann Coulter's nickname, he wouldn't like Phillips.

00:30:07.000 So, wait a minute.

00:30:08.000 Who started the rumor that you were gay?

00:30:09.000 Was it...

00:30:10.000 I have no idea.

00:30:11.000 ...started the Marco Rubio rumors?

00:30:13.000 Well, I think that's Donald Trump.

00:30:15.000 No, I think it was someone else before some blogger or something.

00:30:18.000 Well, okay.

00:30:19.000 I mean, that's been going around for a while.

00:30:21.000 I don't...

00:30:21.000 I just...

00:30:22.000 It's one of those things.

00:30:23.000 I mean, I hate that this is where we are.

00:30:24.000 I know you love it.

00:30:25.000 I know you find this hilarious and hysterical.

00:30:28.000 As someone who came to the country from Canada...

00:30:31.000 I mean, it was born in Detroit, but was raised in Montreal...

00:30:35.000 Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump, there's not enough of a contrast.

00:30:38.000 It's a reality show.

00:30:39.000 The fact that it's coming down to this person's gay, I really did think we had an opportunity. 1.00

00:30:45.000 If you're going to talk, and you're a real wonk, you know, you are.

00:30:47.000 You really understand policy well.

00:30:52.000 I think Bernie Sanders versus Ted Cruz would have been a very beautiful election to see, to say, okay, socialism, constitutionalism, let's see where the country lines up.

00:31:01.000 And now the waters are so muddied because of the circus that is going on.

00:31:06.000 I mean, do you think for a second Marco Rubio's gay? 0.82

00:31:10.000 Look, I don't know if he's gay or not.

00:31:12.000 I think that...

00:31:14.000 You know, if you believe in the Kinsey scale, when he was younger, he may have experimented or done whatever you want to call it, but I think he's a married man.

00:31:23.000 There haven't been any rumors about him doing anything of late, so I'll take him at his word.

00:31:28.000 I mean, it's not something that I pry into or am obsessed with, but I do have a theory now on why the rumors were started that you were gay.

00:31:37.000 It's because you speak French.

00:31:39.000 I do speak French, yeah.

00:31:41.000 And that aggravates leftists to no end because they all love to claim they speak French.

00:31:46.000 And I understand, I'd say about 40% of Portuguese, Brazilian Portuguese, because a lot of it is French.

00:31:53.000 So my goal was at the end of this year to be able to speak Portuguese.

00:31:56.000 I don't think I'll be there.

00:31:57.000 Then I could be Rachel Gentel.

00:32:00.000 Remember how much that impressed Pierce Morgan, her three languages?

00:32:03.000 Yeah.

00:32:03.000 That's right.

00:32:05.000 You don't remember, not gay, Jared. 1.00

00:32:06.000 That was a witness. 0.77

00:32:07.000 No.

00:32:07.000 Anyway.

00:32:08.000 Okay, so on a scale from Anderson Cooper to, you know, Rock Hudson playing doctor with Gomer Pyle Gay, where would you put Marco Rubio?

00:32:16.000 I think he's primarily heterosexual.

00:32:19.000 Okay.

00:32:20.000 Do you think that's helpful?

00:32:21.000 Do you think that?

00:32:22.000 I think he's entirely straight.

00:32:24.000 Because the evidence, a foam party isn't inherently gay, and the Chippendales uniform? 0.58

00:32:28.000 I mean, you could find my Planet Fitness video where I dressed as a tranny, and you can make a far more convincing case with stuff that I've done. 0.97

00:32:38.000 So, no, I don't believe it.

00:32:39.000 But do you think that's helpful to right now, the Republican Party, the dialogue?

00:32:42.000 I know you like Donald Trump, but do you think the state of where it is right now, do you think this is helpful long-term, or do you think everything's going to crash and burn?

00:32:49.000 You know, I think it is helpful because, look, one of the things that politicians always do is they're dishonest with their language.

00:32:57.000 If you see a fight going on the House floor, the gentleman from California has his facts wrong.

00:33:03.000 And then they go through and they're really passive aggressive with one another.

00:33:06.000 They keep the language on the up and up. 0.56

00:33:08.000 When in reality, you know they hate each other's guts.

00:33:11.000 I'd rather have people speak honestly and tell me what they really think.

00:33:15.000 Because the reality is a lot of these people hate one another.

00:33:17.000 Right.

00:33:18.000 Especially ones that are in ideological agreement because they're working in the same corner.

00:33:22.000 Well, if Donald Trump doesn't like Ted Cruz, why is it to our benefit to have Donald Trump go on television and pretend like he likes him, even though you know that he wants to slide the knife in?

00:33:32.000 Well, then why do you think he did it?

00:33:33.000 Don't stab him in the back.

00:33:35.000 Why do you think he did it for weeks until Ted Cruz beat him in the polls?

00:33:39.000 Well, I think that he was feuding with other people.

00:33:41.000 He initially started out feuding with Rick Perry, I believe, and then Rick Perry dropped out.

00:33:45.000 Then he feuded with Lindsey Graham, and Lindsey Graham dropped out.

00:33:48.000 And he kind of had these series of feuds.

00:33:50.000 He feuded with Hillary Clinton, by the way.

00:33:52.000 And when he feuded with Hillary Clinton, that was right around the same time that Hillary started to tank and Bernie started to go up.

00:33:58.000 Oh, I thought you were going to say that was when he was throwing tables over at her wedding, or at his wedding when she was there.

00:34:04.000 Again, he doesn't drink.

00:34:05.000 Well, it doesn't matter.

00:34:07.000 He doesn't need to drink to throw over tables.

00:34:08.000 But I understand that, and I think that other people should take from that playbook.

00:34:12.000 I think that's true.

00:34:14.000 I just wish it were the case with Donald Trump.

00:34:17.000 The evidence points he's overwhelmingly the most dishonest person on that stage.

00:34:21.000 He never holds the same opinion twice. 0.97

00:34:22.000 I mean, he loved Ben Carson, then called him pathological like a pedophile. 0.99

00:34:26.000 Loved Ted Cruz, now he's a nasty guy. 0.99

00:34:28.000 Loved Marco Rubio.

00:34:29.000 Now Marco Rubio may or may not be ineligible.

00:34:32.000 Claimed he was a successful business person.

00:34:34.000 He's not been consistent on anything.

00:34:36.000 So I agree with the approach.

00:34:37.000 I think most politicians should just go up there.

00:34:40.000 Like, if you watch, you know, English Parliament, they just insult each other politely.

00:34:44.000 It's wildly entertaining.

00:34:45.000 I understand that.

00:34:47.000 Right.

00:34:48.000 But I don't think that you think...

00:34:49.000 What makes you think Donald Trump is being truthful?

00:34:51.000 Well, I think, look, depending on what mood you're in, your opinions change about certain people.

00:34:56.000 There are days when I was growing up, I'd love my brother, and there are days that I'd hate his guts.

00:35:00.000 And it just all depended on which day you asked me.

00:35:03.000 So I don't think he's necessarily a flip-flopper if he's inconsistent.

00:35:08.000 If one day he's getting along with Ted Cruz and another day he's not, I think Donald Trump's approach...

00:35:15.000 I think it's shocked everyone so much to the core that these guys that he's up there on stage with don't know how to respond to it.

00:35:23.000 They don't know how to deal with it because they've never had to deal with something like this before.

00:35:27.000 And I think that's why he, in many ways, would be the strongest general election candidate against Hillary Clinton.

00:35:33.000 She has a glass jaw. 0.90

00:35:35.000 She has never had to take a punch before.

00:35:38.000 Well, you can say this.

00:35:39.000 Hold on a second.

00:35:39.000 We have to go to a break soon there, Jared?

00:35:41.000 We have 30 seconds.

00:35:42.000 Now, is that when the music starts, or do you have it right today?

00:35:44.000 We're good.

00:35:45.000 Okay, so John, I want to hold that thought, because Donald Trump's never had to take a punch before, either.

00:35:49.000 And I think we can both agree on that, and they're both kind of on the same playing field there.

00:35:53.000 Didn't Vince McMahon hit him?

00:35:54.000 You know, that's true.

00:35:55.000 I don't think a midget with a folding chair while the referee turns the blind eye counts. 1.00

00:35:59.000 John Phillips, we will be back after this.

00:36:01.000 Stay tuned.

00:36:01.000 us.

00:36:02.000 We'll be right back.

00:36:32.000 We'll take you now live to Governor John Kasich's current presidential rally.

00:36:40.000 Hello?

00:36:43.000 Hello?

00:36:45.000 For breaking news on Louder with Crowder, I'm Perry Mopherson. 0.98

00:36:50.000 You're a strange animal. 0.83

00:37:04.000 That's what I know. 1.00

00:37:09.000 But you're a strange animal. 0.96

00:37:12.000 I've got to follow. 0.69

00:37:15.000 Oh, I'm in this speedy test.

00:37:17.000 All right, of course, that was our favorite singer there, Gowan.

00:37:20.000 Hopefully he's a fan of the show.

00:37:22.000 Bringing back host over there at KBC in Los Angeles.

00:37:25.000 Three to six, evening drive.

00:37:27.000 Follow him on Twitter, JohnnyDon'tLike.

00:37:29.000 John Phillips, the floor is yours.

00:37:31.000 You were saying Hillary Clinton has a glass jaw and making your case as to why Trump had the best chance in a general.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, she has a glass jaw. 1.00

00:37:39.000 She has been treated with kid gloves by the Democrats, if you go back to when she ran for the U.S. Senate. 0.91

00:37:44.000 It was supposed to be a battle to the death between her and Rudy Giuliani, and then Rudy Giuliani got cancer.

00:37:50.000 And the Democrats cleared the field for her in the primary.

00:37:53.000 Nita Lowy and all these other people were going to run, and then they ended up taking a pass and giving her the nomination. 0.99

00:37:58.000 And then she ended up against Rick Lazio, who she mopped the floor with in the general election. 0.94

00:38:03.000 She had minimal opposition when she ran for re-election.

00:38:06.000 The first real test that she had as a candidate was in the primary in 2008 by Barack Obama.

00:38:12.000 She ran a horrific campaign. 1.00

00:38:15.000 He didn't run that great of a campaign, but he ran well enough to beat her.

00:38:19.000 She was shell-shocked.

00:38:21.000 We now see her in her next campaign, this primary in 2016.

00:38:24.000 She's ran another awful campaign. 0.99

00:38:27.000 Bernie Sanders refuses to hit her where she's vulnerable.

00:38:30.000 She's going to win but win barely against a 73-year-old socialist from Vermont.

00:38:35.000 I think if we run really aggressively against her in the general, and we have a guy that's taking her face, I think she loses. 0.74

00:38:43.000 Essie Cupp made that case. 0.98

00:38:45.000 Essie Cupp made that case. 0.98

00:38:47.000 I think you're wrong.

00:38:48.000 I think she's wrong for two reasons.

00:38:50.000 The number one most important variable is that all statistical data we have right now says you're wrong.

00:38:55.000 That Trump loses by the biggest margin in a general.

00:38:58.000 I know that's apt to change, but that is reality.

00:39:00.000 Ted Cruz is on the margin of error.

00:39:02.000 Marco Rubio wins.

00:39:03.000 So regardless of wherever someone lines up, that's the reality.

00:39:06.000 Wait a minute.

00:39:07.000 Isn't Trump within the margin of error?

00:39:08.000 No.

00:39:09.000 He's really close to her.

00:39:10.000 The RealClearPolitics averages single digits.

00:39:10.000 It's not a blowout.

00:39:12.000 It's not a double-digit blowout.

00:39:14.000 Last time we checked, it was at least 5%.

00:39:18.000 So if it's within 4, Cruz is about a plus 1.5, I think, 1.6.

00:39:24.000 So anyway, that would be my first argument.

00:39:28.000 But I also think she does have a glass gin. 0.99

00:39:31.000 Not a glass jaw.

00:39:32.000 I think she has a weak spot, and we'll talk about this later in the show.

00:39:34.000 It is that Hillary Clinton has the second highest unfavorability rating in the history of anyone running for office, or even sitting presidents.

00:39:42.000 The second highest unfavorability rating.

00:39:44.000 There are so many people out there right now who are looking to vote for anyone not named Hillary Clinton, including Democrats.

00:39:50.000 And so all Republicans need to do is find somebody with a marginal, even slightly higher unfavorability rating than normal, to take those votes.

00:39:58.000 The only thing is the one person they may put up is the number one person with the highest unfavorability rating in the history of all American presidential politics, Donald Trump.

00:40:08.000 It's kind of like in 2012, and I think you were more of a Romney guy than I was at that point, where Romney was the only other person in the history of the world, not the United States, to sign a health care mandate into law.

00:40:20.000 The weak point then was Obamacare, and Romney couldn't go after on him.

00:40:23.000 The weak point for Hillary, she's unlikable because she lies and she's inconsistent, and it's the one thing Donald Trump can't go after on her. 1.00

00:40:30.000 And so those two variables, I would argue, just as far as electability, as far as who has the highest chance of winning, I just don't see it.

00:40:39.000 Well, that's part of it, but I don't think that's where she's most vulnerable.

00:40:42.000 I think she's most vulnerable, first of all, in that she might get indicted by the FBI. She might get indicted by the Justice Department.

00:40:48.000 And if she does, because of those emails, because she put America's national security at risk, Donald Trump has every reason in the world to go after her aggressively on that.

00:40:57.000 But then at that point, anyone wins.

00:40:58.000 If that happens, anyone wins.

00:41:00.000 Well, maybe, maybe not.

00:41:04.000 Mitt Romney didn't go after Barack Obama aggressively on Benghazi.

00:41:08.000 He didn't hit that hanging curveball.

00:41:09.000 So some of them will just leave it out there and hope that voters use it against them when they go into the polling booth.

00:41:15.000 I think it needs to be more explicit than that, and I think that Donald Trump would really aggressively go after her on that issue.

00:41:21.000 We've already seen him go after her for intimidating all of those women who were allegedly sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton.

00:41:28.000 And when he did that, that's exactly the point at which her poll numbers started to take in the primary against Bernie.

00:41:35.000 I don't believe any other Republican would make that case to her face, that she enabled a sexual predator to go after women and intimidate people who, she says, should be believed on face value.

00:41:46.000 She thinks anyone who alleges that they are a victim...

00:41:49.000 I think you may be right about that.

00:41:52.000 I think Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio would.

00:41:55.000 I don't think they would.

00:41:56.000 Okay, you may be right about that.

00:41:57.000 One thing that is undoubted, just that is...

00:42:00.000 It's a guarantee. 0.94

00:42:02.000 If Donald Trump does that, he's the only one where they're going to bring back out his raping of his ex-wife, one of the ex-wives, under a deposition. 0.99

00:42:09.000 Raping of his ex-wife? 0.99

00:42:10.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:42:11.000 Yeah, she recanted after a gag order, but they'll bring that out, but they'll say, listen, there's just as much credible evidence under a court of law of these rapes as your wife giving the statement in a deposition that you raped her forcibly on the dresser.

00:42:22.000 They can't use it against any other candidate.

00:42:23.000 That's not apples to apples.

00:42:25.000 If she says it didn't happen and he says it didn't happen, then that's very different than what went on with Bill Clinton.

00:42:31.000 Where you've got a whole list of women who say it did happen and then Bill just doesn't respond.

00:42:34.000 No, the point is the reason it's similar is because you had some women who did say it happened and then said no it didn't and now are saying actually yes it did.

00:42:41.000 And that's what happened with Donald Trump and his wife. 0.89

00:42:43.000 My point is not that he did it.

00:42:44.000 My point is there's just as much credible evidence if you look at the legal records that those happened.

00:42:51.000 No, they settled the lawsuit with Paula Jones.

00:42:54.000 Paula Jones wasn't rape. 1.00

00:42:57.000 Paula Jones was... 0.98

00:42:59.000 It was drop your pants and hope for the best.

00:43:02.000 Drop your pants and hope for the best.

00:43:05.000 They did write a check.

00:43:07.000 Yeah, I think I would love to see a candidate do that.

00:43:09.000 And I agree with you on that.

00:43:11.000 I would hope that anyone else would go after her on that.

00:43:13.000 But see where we are now?

00:43:14.000 See where we are discussing this?

00:43:15.000 We are entirely into reality show territory.

00:43:18.000 Again, it's going to be the whole election.

00:43:19.000 And you like that.

00:43:21.000 And I think that's just what's different here. 0.99

00:43:23.000 Well, look, I think that Hillary Clinton is a dishonest person. 1.00

00:43:26.000 I think there's a million and one different examples that prove that. 0.61

00:43:29.000 We just happen to be talking about these two.

00:43:31.000 But I think someone with that character, look, if you intimidate the victims of sexual assault, I think you're disqualified from being president.

00:43:39.000 And I think that we need to make that case aggressively of the American people.

00:43:43.000 I don't think Marco Rubio would do that.

00:43:46.000 I don't think Ted Cruz would do that.

00:43:47.000 I certainly think that John Kasich would avoid doing that.

00:43:51.000 I think John Kasich would avoid doing anything, pretty much.

00:43:55.000 I don't think he wants to leave his house.

00:43:56.000 I picture him like Howard Hughes peeing in jars until it's time to trot him out in the debate stage.

00:44:01.000 You know his dad was a mailman.

00:44:03.000 Well, his dad was a mailman.

00:44:06.000 Alright, John Phillips, KABC 3-6 in Los Angeles.

00:44:09.000 Johnny don't like on Twitter.

00:44:11.000 Is there anything else I'm missing here that people should follow you?

00:44:14.000 You can read me at the Orange County Register, ocregister.com, pjtv.com.

00:44:19.000 pjtv.com.

00:44:20.000 And look at this.

00:44:20.000 We had an actual productive civil discussion on Donald Trump.

00:44:25.000 Of course, that doesn't happen on Hillary Clinton, and it shouldn't happen. 0.79

00:44:28.000 John Phillips, we must go.

00:44:29.000 Stay tuned, everybody.

00:44:44.000 It only takes a time.

00:44:47.000 Stephen Crowder here.

00:44:59.000 Hey, Jared, what are you doing?

00:45:00.000 I'm just having trouble getting through this book.

00:45:02.000 That's because you can't read.

00:45:03.000 I know!

00:45:04.000 You should have used Freedom Project Academy.

00:45:05.000 Freedom what?

00:45:06.000 Freedom Project Academy.

00:45:07.000 Just go to fpeusa.org.

00:45:09.000 It's a fully accredited private online school.

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00:45:43.000 Open Enrollment runs March through July, but classes always fill up fast.

00:45:48.000 Now, do you have your GED equivalency, Jared?

00:45:50.000 No, is that important?

00:45:51.000 I think so.

00:45:52.000 I mean, you might want to give him a call.

00:45:53.000 That's FreedomProjectAcademy at FPEUSA.org.

00:46:01.000 Wow!

00:46:02.000 That's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen!

00:46:05.000 She wouldn't want anything to do with a simple lower-decker boy like me.

00:46:09.000 I don't know anything about those fancy dinner parties or those dresses with the butts that go out really far or bringing my own knives to steak dinners. 0.81

00:46:17.000 Still, I bet I can get her to pose naked for a painting and screw her in a steamy car. 1.00

00:46:22.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet. 0.98

00:46:42.000 Politics.

00:46:43.000 Civility?

00:46:44.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

00:46:46.000 Entertainment.

00:46:47.000 I don't like entertainment.

00:46:49.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:46:52.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:46:54.000 If you have a very unhealthy body, you should have a horrible body image.

00:46:56.000 Not a big home improvement market, Detroit.

00:46:59.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

00:47:01.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal.

00:47:05.000 You're a strange animal, that's what I know.

00:47:09.000 You're getting louder with Crowder. 0.99

00:47:12.000 But you're a strange animal, I've got to follow.

00:47:16.000 Oh, I'm in the speedy to sound.

00:47:20.000 Glad to be back.

00:47:22.000 In the second hour, producing with me in video studio, as always, is NotGayJarred. 0.71

00:47:26.000 You can follow me at S. Crowder.

00:47:28.000 Follow him at NotGayJarred, louderwithcrowder.com.

00:47:31.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:47:32.000 Draw your own conclusions.

00:47:34.000 We have a poll up on the Twitter.

00:47:40.000 Are you a newly converted Caitlyn Jenner fan?

00:47:44.000 This has only been up for 15 minutes, 19 minutes now.

00:47:48.000 18% say yes.

00:47:49.000 50% say no.

00:47:51.000 32% say uncomfortable.

00:47:57.000 I would probably find myself in the third category.

00:47:59.000 You'd find yourself in the third category.

00:48:01.000 I think Caitlyn Jenner finds himself in the third category. 0.91

00:48:07.000 Did you ever see Caitlyn Jenner when he was sitting there with this really, really fruity homosexual? 1.00

00:48:15.000 It was clear that he was uncomfortable. 0.93

00:48:18.000 Unless he switched over, I don't think he's gay. 0.99

00:48:20.000 I think he still likes women. 0.98

00:48:21.000 I think he still digs the chicks. 0.98

00:48:22.000 I think Caitlyn Jenner transitioned to a lesbian woman. 1.00

00:48:27.000 And it doesn't seem to have a lot in common with...

00:48:29.000 I feel like Bruce Caitlyn Jenner...

00:48:30.000 Listen, if you want to know where we stand on this issue, I'm still going to make fun of Caitlyn Jenner a lot.

00:48:35.000 It's funny, okay?

00:48:36.000 This is an entertainment program.

00:48:38.000 I welcome Caitlyn on the program to discuss it, just like we welcome people of all different stripes.

00:48:44.000 Trump surrogates notwithstanding, because they don't want to come on.

00:48:48.000 And...

00:48:51.000 I think this is really...

00:48:53.000 I think it highlights the cannibalism of the left today.

00:48:59.000 It should be enough that Caitlyn Jenner is this trans activist, high profile, but it's not because Caitlyn Jenner is white.

00:49:07.000 It's not because Caitlyn endorses Ted Cruz.

00:49:10.000 It showcases that you just have to follow lockstep with the leftist mindset, otherwise you are not welcome to be a part of their movement, right?

00:49:19.000 Whereas the Republican, the conservative movement right now, is the reason it's burning to the ground, and it is burning to the ground, is because it's so fractured.

00:49:27.000 Because there are so many different points of view.

00:49:29.000 I mean, you have the Rand Paul people, who probably aren't going to vote at all.

00:49:33.000 They've gone to maybe Gary Johnson.

00:49:35.000 You've got the Trump people.

00:49:36.000 You've got the Cruz people.

00:49:37.000 You've got Rubio.

00:49:38.000 I mean, we had Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina.

00:49:41.000 A very, very diverse array of ideas.

00:49:45.000 And all are welcome in the Republican Party.

00:49:48.000 I find that to be very enlightening.

00:49:53.000 Hey, speaking of which, I want to talk about Leonardo DiCaprio.

00:49:56.000 Do we have that clip?

00:49:57.000 We do.

00:49:58.000 Okay, we had a column go viral this week with Leonardo DiCaprio from the Oscars, and I want to get to it.

00:50:03.000 Roll that clip, Not Gay Jared. 0.98

00:50:06.000 Making The Revenant was about man's relationship to the natural world, a world that we collectively felt in 2015 as the hottest year in recorded history.

00:50:15.000 Our production needed to move to the southern tip of this planet just to be able to find snow.

00:50:20.000 Climate change is real.

00:50:22.000 It is happening right now.

00:50:24.000 It is the most urgent threat facing our entire species.

00:50:29.000 And we need to work collectively together and stop procrastinating.

00:50:35.000 We need to support leaders around the world who do not speak for the big polluters of the big corporations, but who speak for all of humanity, for the indigenous people of the world, for the billions and billions of underprivileged people who will be most affected by this.

00:50:51.000 For our children's children, and for those people out there whose voices have been drowned out by the politics of greed, I thank you all for this amazing award tonight.

00:51:01.000 Let us not take this planet for granted.

00:51:04.000 I do not take tonight for granted.

00:51:06.000 Thank you.

00:51:07.000 Can you believe that?

00:51:09.000 There's so many things when I watch it.

00:51:11.000 Doesn't anyone notice this?

00:51:13.000 I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

00:51:17.000 I feel like he's at least a genuine... 1.00

00:51:19.000 He genuinely thinks he believes his idiot ideas. 1.00

00:51:22.000 Here's the deal. 1.00

00:51:23.000 The one thing that stands out right away, the second he goes off book, he's a stuttering fool. 0.98

00:51:29.000 We lobby the leaders, not the ones who represent corporations. 0.99

00:51:34.000 Oh, okay.

00:51:36.000 Let's talk about this, Leonardo DiCaprio, before we get to your six climate-controlled mansions, and I'm assuming don't run on flatulence.

00:51:46.000 Corporations like New Regency Films, Warner Brothers, corporations worth billions of dollars that distribute, that make your films, that print them on petroleum products like DVDs, or your friend like James Cameron who sold all kinds of action figures that ultimately end up in some dolphin's blowhole out in the middle of the Bermuda Triangle.

00:52:07.000 Those people?

00:52:08.000 Lobby leaders and the wealthy people, corporations.

00:52:11.000 Most corporations...

00:52:13.000 Aren't worth the $250 million you are, Leo?

00:52:16.000 Listen, if you take that room of the Oscars, you have more net worth than most small countries.

00:52:22.000 You could easily do $200 billion.

00:52:24.000 Easily.

00:52:25.000 Easily $200 billion if you talk about all those leftists in there.

00:52:28.000 Leo DiCaprio, his gang of buddies with George Clooney, with the Weinsteins, with James Cameron, with Gwyneth Paltrow.

00:52:36.000 All of them!

00:52:38.000 Leonardo DiCaprio, if you're talking about leaders...

00:52:43.000 Why don't you be one of them?

00:52:44.000 You have the influence, you have the position, you have the money, you have the power, you have hundreds of millions of dollars, and at one time, the highest rated program of the year next to the Super Bowl.

00:52:58.000 You have the microphone, you have the money.

00:53:01.000 Listen, I'm not saying give all of it away.

00:53:05.000 Live on a poultry $40 million for the rest of your life. 0.90

00:53:08.000 You know, you might have to make some cutbacks.

00:53:10.000 Okay, we all have to make sacrifices.

00:53:12.000 I get it.

00:53:13.000 I understand $40 million.

00:53:15.000 You probably can still keep...

00:53:17.000 We have six mansions that we've looked up thus far.

00:53:22.000 You could probably keep four and maybe the yacht.

00:53:25.000 It'd be a struggle for a bit.

00:53:27.000 I understand.

00:53:30.000 Might have to wear the same shoes twice.

00:53:32.000 Right.

00:53:33.000 Now they say, so he doesn't want to take the responsibility for himself.

00:53:36.000 He wants you, the middle class, to lobby leaders.

00:53:41.000 He has the ability to take leadership.

00:53:43.000 This is beyond just people like, well, Sheryl Crow is rich.

00:53:46.000 That's not just what we're talking about.

00:53:47.000 If you want to talk about the ability to lead, you have that ability. 0.92

00:53:51.000 You don't have to be a hypocrite if you're an environmentalist.

00:53:53.000 As a matter of fact, it's really, really easy because you have the money. 0.95

00:53:57.000 Now, poor people don't.

00:53:59.000 They can't just buy Tesla.

00:54:00.000 I know Leo has a Tesla.

00:54:01.000 I know he does some solar heating, but not all of it.

00:54:04.000 By the way, of the six mansions, some of them are in Beverly Hills, Malibu.

00:54:09.000 There's like four in Los Angeles just because he wants to beat the midday traffic.

00:54:14.000 I get it.

00:54:15.000 Cutting down on carbon emissions.

00:54:18.000 Bravo, Leo.

00:54:19.000 Beverly Hills to Malibu, for anyone else out there, that's less than your morning commute.

00:54:26.000 Leo spends eight figures on another mansion so that he doesn't have to go through the agony of driving 40 minutes.

00:54:32.000 That being said, I've been stuck on 405 traffic.

00:54:34.000 I used to live in LA. It is absolutely terrible.

00:54:38.000 Now, if we want to talk about the middle people, right? 0.96

00:54:41.000 You want to absolve yourself of responsibility.

00:54:42.000 These wealthy people don't give to charities.

00:54:45.000 Okay, how about just helping the middle man?

00:54:47.000 You didn't have to be paid $30 million to be mauled by a CGI bear.

00:54:53.000 Again, I'm not saying all of it.

00:54:55.000 You could have taken $10 million and split that across the grips and the makeup artists, right?

00:55:00.000 Make their entire life.

00:55:03.000 Let them sell the mansion and split the worth.

00:55:07.000 They'll never have to work again.

00:55:09.000 But you don't do that.

00:55:12.000 You want us to go to leaders, right?

00:55:14.000 What he wants to do is push.

00:55:15.000 Policy.

00:55:16.000 What kind of policy does Leonardo DiCaprio push?

00:55:18.000 Policy that helps people like you, like me?

00:55:19.000 No.

00:55:20.000 Things like the Kyoto Protocol.

00:55:21.000 Things like Ted Turner.

00:55:22.000 I was at the Cancun Climate Summit when Ted Turner was up there and proposed China's one-child policy.

00:55:29.000 Communist China's one-child policy.

00:55:32.000 Enforce a policy ensuring that you only get to have one child.

00:55:37.000 Guess how they enforce it.

00:55:39.000 The Kyoto Protocol.

00:55:40.000 Guess what that does to your energy prices.

00:55:43.000 Now that's bad for you middle class. 0.85

00:55:45.000 Doesn't affect Leonardo DiCaprio.

00:55:47.000 I get it.

00:55:48.000 Might if he has to cut back to, like I said, 40-50 million, he's going to have to tighten up his belt.

00:55:53.000 That's tough for a size 38 short.

00:55:57.000 You're going to have to start punching holes in it.

00:55:59.000 Get the Swiss Army knife. 0.98

00:56:01.000 I get it.

00:56:02.000 For the middle class, it's bad, right?

00:56:04.000 You're going to be paying more at the pump.

00:56:05.000 Like Quebec, where I'm from, we pay two to three times the amount that Americans pay for gas.

00:56:09.000 Why?

00:56:09.000 Because of the taxes.

00:56:10.000 All done in the name of the environment.

00:56:12.000 What does that do to goods and services?

00:56:13.000 It increases the prices.

00:56:14.000 So it's bad for the middle class.

00:56:16.000 It's fine for the wealthy, like Leonardo DiCaprio, who demand that you push leadership, but they don't take leadership roles themselves.

00:56:22.000 But it kills.

00:56:24.000 It ends the lives of those in third world countries. 1.00

00:56:29.000 You're aggravated by paying maybe $5.50, $6.50, $7.50 in Quebec. 0.69

00:56:34.000 I think it's $8-something at the pump if they do buy liters because it's ridiculous. 0.79

00:56:39.000 That's aggravating to you.

00:56:42.000 To someone who has to ration a couple cans of beans, if they're lucky, one bag of rice a week, living on a dirt floor, guess what?

00:56:49.000 Paying for that energy means life or death.

00:56:52.000 Guess what?

00:56:53.000 Leo, the rich white guy, wants you to lobby leaders.

00:56:58.000 Not do it himself.

00:56:59.000 He's not tossing them his dollars.

00:57:02.000 For policy that ensures these people die on the plains of Africa, in the fields of Mexico. 0.99

00:57:08.000 I don't even know if they have fields in Mexico.

00:57:10.000 Probably more fields in Africa.

00:57:12.000 I saw the ghosts in the darkness. 0.97

00:57:14.000 Lions are monsters. 1.00

00:57:15.000 Kill them all. 1.00

00:57:15.000 I don't care. 1.00

00:57:16.000 Kill them all. 1.00

00:57:16.000 I don't feel bad. 1.00

00:57:17.000 Kill all the lions. 0.99

00:57:19.000 When I have as much money as Leo, that will be my cause. 1.00

00:57:22.000 Killing all of the lions. 0.93

00:57:24.000 The problem is, and something else, do they say the right is anti-science?

00:57:28.000 I don't know why this just tickles me pink.

00:57:33.000 Kind of like seeing him getting tossed around by that bear.

00:57:35.000 Great actor, Leo DiCaprio.

00:57:36.000 You can't take that away from me.

00:57:37.000 Fantastic actor.

00:57:40.000 Everything he said was anecdotal. 1.00

00:57:42.000 We had to go to this country because there wasn't enough snow and, and, and, like, listen, if you're going to say Republicans are stupid... 1.00

00:57:50.000 Maybe you should, you know, I don't know, fire location scout because you really... 1.00

00:57:54.000 Yeah, fire location scout.

00:57:56.000 Because guess what?

00:57:57.000 In the Midwest, there's been, there was plenty.

00:57:59.000 In Canada, there was plenty.

00:58:00.000 You don't really have to go that far.

00:58:02.000 Go to Gaspé-Z in Quebec.

00:58:03.000 But it's entirely anecdotal to paint a sob story so that you have to lobby the leaders and Leo doesn't really have to give that much of his money.

00:58:12.000 That's the point.

00:58:13.000 It's not just that he's rich and you don't like him because he's pretty. 0.99

00:58:16.000 It's the hypocrisy, it's anti-science, and it's silly. 0.99

00:58:20.000 Louder with Crowder. 0.99

00:58:20.000 Crowder. 0.99

00:58:20.000 We'll be back. 0.99

00:58:29.000 We'll be right back.

00:58:51.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

00:58:52.000 We now return you to Governor John Kasich's live presidential rally in progress.

00:58:59.000 Hello?

00:59:02.000 Hello?

00:59:06.000 You, sir, out there with the boombox?

00:59:12.000 Closing time.

00:59:14.000 Open all the doors and let you out in.

00:59:18.000 I'm afraid I don't see your point.

00:59:21.000 We will keep you abreast with breaking coverage as the rally unfolds.

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00:59:58.000 You have no excuse.

01:00:00.000 You have no excuse just like you have no excuse for those roles that are just cascading over your belt buckle.

01:00:06.000 You should be ashamed.

01:00:07.000 Unless you're a lady. 1.00

01:00:08.000 Then you deserve a medal.

01:00:09.000 Get her a medal.

01:00:49.000 We're going to have the wonderful Tommy Loren after this.

01:00:53.000 She's quite fetching. 0.99

01:00:55.000 That she is.

01:00:56.000 That she is.

01:00:57.000 At least that's what I'm supposed to say.

01:00:59.000 Oh, people see her.

01:01:04.000 That's what they think!

01:01:08.000 Why are you laughing?

01:01:09.000 I was slow to catching that.

01:01:11.000 Well, when we asked for people for the Tommy Loren questions, did you see the tweets?

01:01:15.000 It was, um, that was bordering on inappropriate.

01:01:24.000 This is precisely why we disengaged the live chat on YouTube.

01:01:30.000 Everything is on Twitter.

01:01:31.000 Even the compliments for Dana were hysterical.

01:01:36.000 They were outrageously vulgar.

01:01:38.000 The internet is a crazy place, but we are going, we actually are going to match Tommy Lauren when she comes on.

01:01:44.000 We'll talk politics, all of that, but we will match her with her perfect dream match. 0.99

01:01:50.000 We have an actual, a scientific, we have the dream machine.

01:01:52.000 We actually have a patent on it.

01:01:56.000 Alright, this week, you know what's going on, is the CPAC. The CPACs.

01:02:02.000 The CPACs.

01:02:03.000 The CPACs. 0.98

01:02:04.000 Now, not gay Jared, you've never been to CPAC. I have not. 1.00

01:02:07.000 I have not.

01:02:08.000 Right, so a lot of the radio shows people are listening to right now.

01:02:10.000 No real desire.

01:02:12.000 You actually, you did want to go.

01:02:14.000 I did want to go last year.

01:02:15.000 We just started working together, and I know you had been and had hosted it and that kind of thing, but I was just, I was curious.

01:02:23.000 But then I was turned off pretty fast.

01:02:25.000 Well, I think what it was was you finally came when you opened for me at the live show.

01:02:25.000 Yeah.

01:02:30.000 Yeah, that was the turning point.

01:02:32.000 And it was fun.

01:02:33.000 You were good.

01:02:34.000 We wrote some bits for you, did some comedy for the first time.

01:02:36.000 You were pretty funny.

01:02:37.000 By the way, we have a few tour dates here in this week.

01:02:41.000 You know what's so rough about the tour dates is I don't really promote them anymore because things get so violent or people get angry and it's a struggle.

01:02:50.000 You want to promote it and I always used to open it to the public but after you get Black Lives Matter blocking people in when I was at Cal Poly we had to scan for bombs unlike Milo and Ben who are fantastic and I love them they're going to post all of that and people get outraged. 0.65

01:03:05.000 I just want to tell my jokes because I've been doing it since 18.

01:03:08.000 I'm not showing up to plug a book I don't sell anything at these shows.

01:03:12.000 I'm just doing stand-up comedy.

01:03:14.000 And it's really, really changed very radically.

01:03:18.000 So, all the way back to CPAC. I did CPAC for, well, four years over five.

01:03:23.000 I got horrible food poisoning one year, and I didn't end up emceeing The Ballroom.

01:03:28.000 But starting in 2010, I want to say, yeah, 2010 through, I think, 2010, anyway, a few years, so I would do stand-up.

01:03:36.000 Now, I would always get up on hatewatch.org, Huffington Post, Media Matters, I've talked about this, and I'd get hauled into the Fox News office.

01:03:43.000 What's going on now, Jared?

01:03:45.000 Is there a problem?

01:03:46.000 Is there a problem?

01:03:47.000 No.

01:03:48.000 Is there a problem going on with the feed?

01:03:49.000 No.

01:03:50.000 You look terrified.

01:03:51.000 No.

01:03:51.000 They're good.

01:03:53.000 Are you not telling me?

01:03:54.000 You just don't want to say it on air?

01:03:55.000 No, we're good.

01:03:57.000 You should see his face.

01:03:58.000 Show him your face.

01:03:59.000 Can you not show him your face?

01:04:00.000 Is that the problem?

01:04:01.000 Take it off.

01:04:02.000 His face, he was just looking at his computer as though something had exploded.

01:04:07.000 Okay.

01:04:08.000 So, CPAC. Not Gay Jared and I didn't go this year.

01:04:11.000 Now, the big reason, obviously, is of course I have surgery.

01:04:13.000 But I had surgery.

01:04:14.000 That's a cop-out.

01:04:15.000 If I really wanted to go, I would go.

01:04:18.000 Kind of like my wife and I had a big fight because I'm allergic to cats.

01:04:22.000 But when I put my foot down and I said, sweetheart, we will never own a cat, she said, well, I can understand because you're allergic.

01:04:29.000 I said, no, that's not the reason.

01:04:30.000 It's because I hate cats.

01:04:32.000 I'm not going to hide behind the dress of I'm allergic, though that's true. 0.98

01:04:38.000 Same thing I'm not going to hide behind the dress, which may or may not hide a penis these days, of my surgery with CPAC. It just got to the point it was no longer fun. 0.93

01:04:49.000 You know, it's expensive.

01:04:50.000 Here's the big thing with a lot of these conventions.

01:04:52.000 Big thing that Jared and I don't like about conventions.

01:04:55.000 Anytime you see people who are otherwise pretty intelligent and critical thinkers engaging in group chant, I get uncomfortable.

01:05:04.000 No matter what it is, whether it's Rubio, Rubio, Rubio, that's not his chant.

01:05:10.000 It should be his chant.

01:05:11.000 That's the only one that would be the appropriate Rubio chant.

01:05:15.000 Whether it's Make America Great Again, whether it's Our Time, whether it's Not Retreat Reload, anytime you get people engaging in chanting, I get immediately uncomfortable.

01:05:25.000 It was pretty bad, the Rubio event when I was there.

01:05:28.000 The chanting is just, I don't know, I just feel gross. 1.00

01:05:32.000 Even if it's like, you know, Hillary Boo, Bernie Boo, I mean, it's just, I feel stupid. 1.00

01:05:37.000 Yeah, I know. 0.99

01:05:38.000 I don't like it.

01:05:39.000 Like a little kid, like a little kid at vacation Bible school or something like that.

01:05:42.000 Right.

01:05:43.000 I understand supporting somebody, but the chanting, this is a job interview for them.

01:05:47.000 That's what it should be.

01:05:49.000 So there's that.

01:05:50.000 And at CPAC, little known fact, these people who are on stage, a lot of the time people are like, well, okay, we get some of them.

01:05:55.000 We get why Sean Hannity's there.

01:05:56.000 People like him.

01:05:57.000 He's very popular.

01:05:58.000 He's a great guy.

01:05:59.000 I understand it.

01:06:00.000 Glenn Beck, we get it.

01:06:00.000 He's popular.

01:06:01.000 Okay.

01:06:01.000 The candidates, we understand it.

01:06:02.000 But half the time you're like, why is this person here?

01:06:04.000 It's because their nonprofit donated a huge sum of cash.

01:06:09.000 One time this nonprofit, who may or may not have committed fraud, spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to provide free high-speed Wi-Fi at CPAC. And so all of these candidates were beholden to going there and giving these interviews.

01:06:22.000 It's not performance-based.

01:06:24.000 Now, I've never done that.

01:06:25.000 I was at CPAC for the same reason I was at Fox News.

01:06:29.000 Andrew Breitbart.

01:06:30.000 Andrew Breitbart was the one who recommended me.

01:06:33.000 I owe a lot of my career to Andrew Breitbart.

01:06:35.000 And he recommended me when I never worked for him.

01:06:36.000 He just thought I was funny.

01:06:38.000 And he just thought I was good.

01:06:39.000 Back then, Lisa DePasquale worked at CPAC. Andrew Breitbart said, hey, if you want someone funny, they said, fine.

01:06:44.000 And we did it for four years.

01:06:45.000 Emceed that main ballroom. 0.96

01:06:49.000 The amount of money they spend at CPAC, the amount of money that is spent, now there's nothing wrong with it, but it is, to a degree, it is political masturbation.

01:06:58.000 The amount they spend, I mean many, many, many, many millions of dollars on sites and merch and podcasts and buying stage time.

01:07:08.000 And a fraction of the influence of what we do.

01:07:12.000 Of what Not Gay Jared does.

01:07:14.000 And he's a sidekick. 0.97

01:07:15.000 A horrible sidekick.

01:07:16.000 And he has more influence than these giant non-profits at CPAC. If anything, CPAC proves something.

01:07:22.000 And it proves what the conservative movement should be about.

01:07:24.000 That giant bureaucracies are not very effective.

01:07:28.000 They don't work.

01:07:30.000 They don't get in the bloodstream.

01:07:31.000 They haven't affected change.

01:07:32.000 This is not their time.

01:07:33.000 There are some great people at CPAC. The fact that it's trending on Twitter is kind of a miracle.

01:07:39.000 Well, it's not trending anymore.

01:07:40.000 Not anymore.

01:07:41.000 It was.

01:07:41.000 It was trending on Twitter.

01:07:42.000 Well, you do have a lot of people there.

01:07:46.000 So that's why I'm not there.

01:07:47.000 That's the reason we don't really go to CPAC. Nothing against it.

01:07:50.000 I just think you're more effective, the listeners, what you're doing here, being out there, on your own, individuals.

01:07:55.000 Oh, Tommy Loren after this will be back.

01:08:21.000 Come on.

01:08:22.000 Just give me a shot.

01:08:24.000 No!

01:08:25.000 If you're not of my class, we would never have anything in common. 1.00

01:08:31.000 Please, just let me paint you naked. 0.99

01:08:33.000 I promise you'll enjoy it. 0.98

01:08:35.000 Well, okay. 0.99

01:08:38.000 Damn, that was easy. 1.00

01:08:39.000 Damn, that was easy. 1.00

01:08:46.000 Damn, that was that was easy. 1.00

01:09:16.000 Damn, that was easy. that was easy. 1.00

01:09:35.000 It's a marvel that we haven't had her on the program before.

01:09:37.000 We've run in the same circles for a while.

01:09:39.000 She hosts a show at The Blaze, where I've done a lot of work, of course.

01:09:43.000 I can see the comments section now.

01:09:45.000 Blaze! 0.93

01:09:46.000 Crudback! 1.00

01:09:46.000 Cat Cruise! 1.00

01:09:47.000 Ah, coxervative!

01:09:48.000 But she hosts Tommy at The Blaze.

01:09:50.000 You can follow her on Twitter, Tommy Loren.

01:09:52.000 Tommy Loren, thanks for being with us.

01:09:55.000 Thanks for having me, finally.

01:09:56.000 Finally?

01:09:57.000 Well, it's not like I was banning you, unlike some people we were previously talking about who do have the shadow ban behind the scenes.

01:10:05.000 You're just busy.

01:10:06.000 I had the surgery.

01:10:08.000 I'm living on a diet of jerky and an undisclosed energy drink, so it's just been a mess, Tommy, and you look so much better than either of us.

01:10:19.000 Well, I appreciate that.

01:10:20.000 You slipped into my DMs, though, so I always check Twitter DMs towards that.

01:10:25.000 This is true.

01:10:26.000 Well, you're allowed a little more characters there on the direct messages.

01:10:31.000 Okay, so a couple of things.

01:10:33.000 A lot of people, I think, have seen you, and like you said, on social media, sometimes people are sort of fragmented.

01:10:39.000 We'll get into the macro of how you've gotten into this, because I think you and I kind of, you know, we both started as youngins, but you received a lot of backlash, and you and I shared that together this last week, or last couple of weeks, over your comments regarding one Beyonce Knowles, correct?

01:10:56.000 Well, yes, because how dare I go after that underdog, right?

01:10:59.000 I mean, you and I both.

01:11:00.000 How dare we attack someone that clearly needs our support and our help to bully her as beyond words?

01:11:08.000 Well, the difference is, I don't know if you've read my...

01:11:08.000 Yeah.

01:11:10.000 So I saw your thing, and you were talking about the Black Panthers, and you pointed out that they were a terrorist organization, and you were made the Donkey of the Week by some radio host.

01:11:17.000 I wrote something.

01:11:18.000 I co-wrote it with Courtney Kirchhoff, our brilliant writer.

01:11:22.000 And, I mean, I think the reads now, not Gay Jared would know, are in the millions. 1.00

01:11:26.000 So, we said it's not because you're black, it's because you're a whore. 1.00

01:11:31.000 And we included all the gifs of her humping the stage. 1.00

01:11:35.000 And when people say whore, what do you mean by whore? 0.99

01:11:36.000 Well, I mean someone who showcases their private parts on stage for money. 0.96

01:11:41.000 So I defined it pretty clearly, and there are a lot of reasons people have a problem with Beyonce. 0.85

01:11:45.000 So I wrote that, and oh my gosh, it's like, Beyonce is what Cher is to gay white men, Beyonce is to gay black men.

01:11:54.000 Did you notice that in the demographics that came after you?

01:11:57.000 Honestly, it's been so far-reaching.

01:11:59.000 A lot of it is little, you know, younger black girls. 0.95

01:12:04.000 I mean, gay men as well. 0.92

01:12:06.000 White gay men have come after me.

01:12:08.000 I still have stuff. 0.98

01:12:08.000 You know, the Beehive. 0.98

01:12:10.000 I had to make my Instagram private again today because I made comments about Chris Rock and you can't do that.

01:12:16.000 Basically, what we can't do is we can't talk about black people anymore.

01:12:18.000 Well, it's hard for you because you're straight out of the page of Hitler Youth.

01:12:22.000 Blonde hair, blue eyes.

01:12:25.000 I'm just some schmowak off the street and people have no idea how tall I am in person.

01:12:29.000 Yeah, I don't think that any straight male calls her Queen Bee. 0.99

01:12:33.000 Do you think I'm right in making that inference?

01:12:36.000 No, I don't think so.

01:12:36.000 Straight males, no.

01:12:38.000 Gay males, yes. 0.95

01:12:39.000 Gay white males, yes. 0.99

01:12:40.000 Well, I checked with Chris Lash over there at Dana, and I said, do you know anyone who calls her queen? 0.93

01:12:44.000 He said, well, maybe some straight black men do.

01:12:47.000 But even then, and I don't know, I don't think, frankly, I find her the least talented of Destiny's Child.

01:12:53.000 So people can say it all they want.

01:12:54.000 She's the most white-looking of Destiny's Child. 0.98

01:12:58.000 And I actually find the other ones to be more talented, to be more tasteful, And more attractive.

01:13:04.000 And I think I'm in the minority there.

01:13:07.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:13:08.000 I mean, for me to comment on Beyonce, I still like Beyonce.

01:13:10.000 I like her music.

01:13:11.000 I don't even mind her song, Formation.

01:13:13.000 I was running the other day, and it came up on my Pandora, and I'm like, oh boy.

01:13:17.000 Like, if only the Beehive knew that I was listening to Formation right now, I imagine what they would say.

01:13:22.000 But look, it's not about the fact that she's got a song.

01:13:25.000 It's what she did at the Super Bowl. 1.00

01:13:26.000 She's a gun rights advocate. 0.98

01:13:28.000 She's got ammo strapped to her chest, shaking her butt, talking about, you know, black history, black power, the Black Panthers, Black Lives Matter. 0.99

01:13:36.000 I said something about it and, I mean, geez, lynched me for it. 0.98

01:13:39.000 Oh gosh, don't use that terminology.

01:13:41.000 I know you're right.

01:13:43.000 You can't use the word lynch either, because I did that in the Final Thoughts the other day, and then it was again like, how dare you use our history against us?

01:13:48.000 I can't say that either.

01:13:50.000 Yeah, you probably shouldn't, because again, the beehive, as they call themselves. 0.98

01:13:54.000 They're so creative with these names, not gay, Jared. 1.00

01:13:57.000 Have you noticed that?

01:13:58.000 Oh yeah, the clubs they put together for their little Twitter hashtags.

01:14:02.000 It's fantastic.

01:14:03.000 Does Eliza Minnelli fan club have something?

01:14:04.000 What do they call you guys?

01:14:05.000 Oh, I don't...

01:14:07.000 Okay, back to you.

01:14:09.000 Yeah, you know, what it is, it's just they want to make certain people immune.

01:14:14.000 What is going on?

01:14:18.000 The computer doesn't like me today.

01:14:19.000 The computer doesn't like you.

01:14:20.000 I have no idea.

01:14:21.000 Tommy, just ignore that.

01:14:22.000 Let's act as though this is a professional broadcast, even though we're syndicated to many stations.

01:14:27.000 It also hurts, too, obviously the big attack they use against you is that you're young.

01:14:32.000 How old are you?

01:14:33.000 Do you disclose that?

01:14:34.000 23.

01:14:35.000 I have no problem saying that.

01:14:36.000 Yeah, when I was at Fox News, I was the youngest person.

01:14:38.000 I was 21.

01:14:39.000 I left the house at 18 to do stand-up.

01:14:42.000 That's what I did before I did any kind of political stuff.

01:14:44.000 And that was kind of the main attack people would use if you let your age out there.

01:14:48.000 And so I just hit it.

01:14:50.000 I actually told that story when I went to Fox and it was after I signed my contract that they had any idea as to how old I was.

01:14:56.000 Most of them thought I was 28 back then.

01:14:59.000 Do you feel like that's just kind of a go-to from the left?

01:15:01.000 I mean, for people who want to talk about being accepting, immediately it goes to identity politics, right?

01:15:06.000 You can't say it because you're young, you can't say it because you're white, or because if you don't mind, I'm sure our viewers will say, if I don't, you know, attractive.

01:15:13.000 Is that the main attack or did they take on your ideas? 1.00

01:15:16.000 No, mostly it's how dare you, you racist, white, cracker, bimbo. 1.00

01:15:21.000 Not so much for my age, because a lot of people that are attacking me are my age, but more so because of my hair color. 0.99

01:15:27.000 You're the typical blonde Barbie. 1.00

01:15:29.000 You're blonde. 1.00

01:15:29.000 What do you know? 1.00

01:15:30.000 You had a blonde moment.

01:15:32.000 You're young and you're white, and what did you have to do to get that job?

01:15:36.000 That's what I hear over and over again is what I had to do.

01:15:40.000 To get the job.

01:15:41.000 You know, honestly, I mean, I made a final thoughts and it went viral.

01:15:44.000 That's how I got the job.

01:15:46.000 It had nothing to do with anything else.

01:15:48.000 But, you know, whatever they want to think.

01:15:49.000 Let's be honest, though.

01:15:51.000 That shade of blonde is not entirely natural. 0.83

01:15:54.000 Well, I mean, it's pretty close.

01:15:55.000 Look at my roots.

01:15:56.000 Come on.

01:15:57.000 We can discuss this another time.

01:15:59.000 My wife is a blonde. 1.00

01:16:00.000 It's pretty damn close.

01:16:01.000 Okay.

01:16:01.000 All right.

01:16:01.000 I'll let it go.

01:16:02.000 Well, my wife is a tall blonde, and I remember one time when she went and asked for a size. 1.00

01:16:07.000 I don't even know women's sizes, to be honest.

01:16:09.000 I think she's a... 0.94

01:16:10.000 Do you have any idea, Naki, Jared?

01:16:12.000 I think she's like a six. 1.00

01:16:13.000 You're putting myself in a bad.

01:16:15.000 I think she's a six. 1.00

01:16:15.000 Okay. 1.00

01:16:17.000 There's no winning for that situation.

01:16:17.000 Yeah.

01:16:18.000 Well, she's very tall, though.

01:16:19.000 She's almost six foot. 0.95

01:16:20.000 Very thin.

01:16:21.000 I wouldn't say like...

01:16:22.000 When you say thin, people think skinny.

01:16:24.000 She's slim.

01:16:25.000 But she has shape. 0.78

01:16:26.000 Yeah.

01:16:27.000 We both have large posteriors.

01:16:29.000 And I remember one time a woman... 1.00

01:16:31.000 My wife said, do you have it in this size?

01:16:32.000 I think it's a six.

01:16:33.000 That's not the point of the story.

01:16:34.000 I said, no.

01:16:35.000 We only have it in real women's sizes. 1.00

01:16:38.000 I was like, okay, this is a problem now, see, because you attacked my wife, who was very nice, simply because she's not fat, as you are.

01:16:46.000 And it seems that people, again, the quickest way to success in the United States right now, I've said this time and time again, is to be a professional victim.

01:16:55.000 And that seems to be a tenet of the left.

01:16:57.000 And even people like Beyonce or Jay-Z or Nicey Kanye West, these are people who are wealthy beyond your wildest imaginations.

01:17:05.000 And they want to act as though they're broke.

01:17:07.000 They still want to claim to be street, right?

01:17:09.000 Beyonce still wants to claim that she's being oppressed or Oprah about the jewelry store. 0.96

01:17:16.000 What was that like, dealing with that for you?

01:17:19.000 I mean, it's got to be tough because you're younger, you're a woman, you're blowing the cards stacked against you. 1.00

01:17:22.000 Do you ignore it, or do you say, okay, let's get that out of the way. 0.79

01:17:24.000 Sure, I'm a racist, I'm a bigot, I'm a homophobe, I'm a sexist against myself, whatever. 0.51

01:17:29.000 Let's get to ideas.

01:17:30.000 How does a young woman handle it? 1.00

01:17:32.000 I don't play into that like the left does. 0.95

01:17:35.000 I don't sit here and cry to myself in the morning like, oh geez, it really sucks to be like a young blonde. 0.88

01:17:41.000 You know, I have it so rough.

01:17:43.000 I don't play that.

01:17:44.000 I don't play the victim.

01:17:45.000 That's what they would love for me to do that.

01:17:47.000 I tell them, please don't go out for my family.

01:17:49.000 Please tell me not to die.

01:17:51.000 You know, that would be nice.

01:17:52.000 But at the end of the day, I don't take these too seriously.

01:17:55.000 I don't go home and cry myself to sleep at night because some 12-year-old in Alabama is telling him a racist cracker.

01:18:02.000 Like, Oh, I don't lose sleep over it.

01:18:03.000 I'm sorry.

01:18:04.000 I don't know how one says racist cracker in the same phrase and not understand.

01:18:08.000 It's hilarious.

01:18:09.000 I don't either.

01:18:10.000 But they tell me.

01:18:11.000 But no, you get this, Stephen.

01:18:12.000 We are the only ones that can be racist.

01:18:15.000 They can't be racist because we are still oppressing them.

01:18:17.000 Well, that was a big problem, and that's why I don't play well with others when we do everything on our own.

01:18:20.000 I mean, you know, I hosted CPAC for four years, and every time it was fact-checked on Huffington Post or its front page, you know, we've talked.

01:18:29.000 And this is old hat, right?

01:18:30.000 I feel like we're just going to run around in circles and make the same point over.

01:18:33.000 That's what the left does.

01:18:35.000 But it got to a point where they would go to Fox, and it would be front page Huffington Post, and I'd get called into the second floor, and they'd say, Did you yell out the N-word on stage at CPAC to applause?

01:18:44.000 And I'd have to say, No, I didn't.

01:18:45.000 I used the word knickers because I was wearing knickers dressed as Thomas Jefferson.

01:18:49.000 And they'd say, Okay.

01:18:50.000 And it goes to HR. And I said, You know what?

01:18:52.000 I'm just tired of this.

01:18:53.000 And I think the right acquiesces too much, including people in a lot of right-wing media.

01:18:58.000 So I am grateful when people don't.

01:18:59.000 Now, were you always more conservative, or how did that come to be?

01:19:04.000 I'm conservative.

01:19:05.000 I grew up in South Dakota.

01:19:07.000 My parents are far less political than I am.

01:19:09.000 I mean, listen, I watch the news.

01:19:10.000 I pay attention.

01:19:11.000 I would not like the government to tell me what to do.

01:19:14.000 I believe in limited government.

01:19:16.000 I believe in working hard.

01:19:17.000 I don't believe in the bloated welfare state.

01:19:20.000 That's just, to me, that's common sense to be a conservative, believe it or not.

01:19:24.000 How long have you held those views?

01:19:27.000 Boy, I started talking at a very young age, so I don't know.

01:19:30.000 Okay, so it wasn't like you were in college or in high school, were a leftist.

01:19:36.000 You didn't have the conversion that Dana Lash did.

01:19:38.000 Oh, absolutely not, no.

01:19:40.000 This has pretty much been since the beginning of time, watching ABC News and pointing out the BS that I saw in the nightly news with my parents, and that's where it started.

01:19:49.000 No, I never had a transformation where I suddenly became conservative.

01:19:53.000 You know, it's funny what you say that I've talked about this, and I've been on a show.

01:19:57.000 John Stossel, you know, was on ABC News, and TGIF was, well, you're probably a little too young.

01:20:02.000 See, there's only a few age, but we had Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Teen Angel.

01:20:05.000 Oh, yeah.

01:20:06.000 Family Matters, Step by Step.

01:20:06.000 Family Matters.

01:20:09.000 And then afterward, 2020 would come on, and John Stossel had his Give Me a Break segment.

01:20:09.000 Oh, yeah.

01:20:14.000 And as a kid, I just loved it.

01:20:16.000 I thought, who is this guy?

01:20:17.000 It was the only news person I liked.

01:20:18.000 I got his biography, learned about his stutter.

01:20:20.000 I had no idea, I was 13, 14 years old, that he was a hardcore libertarian.

01:20:25.000 So I just wonder if there's something, even genetically, where people gravitate toward it.

01:20:29.000 Because I don't have this tremendous conversion story either.

01:20:33.000 Like, sometimes I wish I were a drug addict, so I could say, you know, I was reformed.

01:20:36.000 But, no.

01:20:37.000 You know what I think it is?

01:20:38.000 My parents never told me that I could write on the walls because it improved creativity.

01:20:44.000 They never told me I could just do as I please because I need to be a free spirit.

01:20:48.000 They didn't believe that spanking was somehow going to scar me for life.

01:20:52.000 I was just raised like a normal kid.

01:20:54.000 They didn't put me in safe spaces.

01:20:56.000 It's like, this is the way life is, Tommy.

01:20:57.000 Like...

01:20:58.000 Deal with it.

01:20:59.000 Work hard.

01:21:00.000 If you want something, work hard for it.

01:21:01.000 If you want money, you're going to have to clean the toilet. 1.00

01:21:04.000 To me, being raised in an average American family, you come out conservative if they do it right.

01:21:09.000 Well, I tell you what, you just made Jared envious because he was locked in a closet for weeks on end and beaten without mercy.

01:21:14.000 But your childhood sounds much more enjoyable.

01:21:17.000 Also, like it might produce a more balanced, adjusted person.

01:21:21.000 Yeah, for me, what it was...

01:21:23.000 My dad always had these conversations.

01:21:25.000 I was just talking with my dad about this today.

01:21:27.000 Even though your parents didn't push politics, did your dad always ask you the why?

01:21:32.000 That's what my dad did with me.

01:21:33.000 Where if I got my first check for Arthur, because I started acting when I was 12, my dad goes, okay, this is what you're going to pay in taxes if you're over 18.

01:21:41.000 You don't have to pay if you're under 18 in Quebec.

01:21:43.000 And I go, why?

01:21:44.000 He goes, well, why do you think?

01:21:46.000 And he always just elicited a conversation.

01:21:49.000 Were your parents like that?

01:21:50.000 I wish I could say so, but not really.

01:21:53.000 I came out...

01:21:53.000 I was always...

01:21:54.000 She's gonna be a pretty blonde. 1.00

01:21:56.000 We don't need to worry about her.

01:21:58.000 I would always argue and petition with my parents constantly.

01:22:00.000 If I asked my mom if we could go shopping and she said no, I would write her a list of reasons why we really should go shopping and why we should clean the house.

01:22:09.000 I've just always been an arguer, and so I enjoy doing it.

01:22:12.000 I enjoy poking holes on other people's arguments.

01:22:14.000 My parents say that the reason that I speak well is because they never talk baby talk to me.

01:22:18.000 Maybe that has something to do with it.

01:22:19.000 I don't know.

01:22:20.000 That was my family, too.

01:22:21.000 We have to go to a break soon.

01:22:23.000 I think we share so much more in common than I realized because I was that way.

01:22:26.000 And I made my case when I wasn't allowed a BB gun.

01:22:28.000 And I actually came up with a range of feet per second that should be acceptable based on my age and upgraded every two years.

01:22:35.000 And it would go back to the flow chart I had for my parents.

01:22:37.000 So I was just very, very argumentative.

01:22:39.000 Tommy Loren, follow her on Twitter, TommyOnTheBlaze.tv. 0.83

01:22:43.000 Are you saying we have more time than you thought, not gay, Jared? 1.00

01:22:45.000 A couple more seconds? 0.96

01:22:45.000 A couple more seconds. 0.96

01:22:46.000 Yeah, just feather it out there.

01:22:47.000 Feather it out there.

01:22:48.000 All right, well, we'll come back with Tommy Loren.

01:22:49.000 And we're going to find her a perfect match because she's single. 1.00

01:22:52.000 Don't miss this.

01:22:53.000 We'll be right back.

01:23:23.000 The Reagan Hills, Louder with Crowder.

01:23:28.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

01:23:29.000 We now return you to Governor John Kasich's live presidential rally in progress.

01:23:37.000 Now, now, now stop that.

01:23:39.000 That's not productive at all. 1.00

01:23:41.000 You suck! 1.00

01:23:43.000 No, no I don't. 1.00

01:23:44.000 Yes, you do.

01:23:45.000 I do not... 0.99

01:23:47.000 I do not suck. 0.96

01:23:51.000 We will keep you abreast with breaking coverage as the rally unfolds. 0.97

01:23:55.000 Here at Louder with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson.

01:23:59.000 When it's time to party, we will party hard.

01:24:05.000 After that embarrassing display, we are back.

01:24:33.000 Thank you for staying with us.

01:24:35.000 Host of Tommy on The Blaze TV. Follow her on Twitter at Tommy Loren.

01:24:39.000 Thank you for staying with us, ma'am.

01:24:41.000 Of course.

01:24:42.000 Okay, real quick.

01:24:43.000 We had a lot of requests from fans.

01:24:45.000 You, in fact, are not married or engaged.

01:24:47.000 True.

01:24:48.000 Okay, we don't want to know anything else, because technically your legal status is single, and we have a system here, a little known fact.

01:24:56.000 One of our regular guests, Gerald, is a mechanical engineer.

01:25:00.000 Him and Not Gay Jared have a patent on a machine where we will input information.

01:25:04.000 We're going to ask you a series of questions, and from everybody on the face of the earth, it's going to narrow it down to your scientifically perfect match.

01:25:14.000 Any questions?

01:25:17.000 I'm excited and a little nervous, but let's do it.

01:25:19.000 Yeah, it's one match.

01:25:20.000 I don't know how many men there are.

01:25:22.000 Probably about three billion?

01:25:23.000 There's a lot.

01:25:24.000 There's a lot.

01:25:25.000 Probably more than a dozen, I would say.

01:25:27.000 I would assume they discount the guy who played the Somali pirate actor from Captain Phillips.

01:25:31.000 We hope so.

01:25:32.000 They're in the mix.

01:25:33.000 They're in the mix.

01:25:34.000 Let's bring in the system, not good, Jared.

01:25:36.000 Little known fact, the Dream Machine is a little tone deaf.

01:25:48.000 It is not the best.

01:25:50.000 Not very good at that.

01:25:51.000 That's not the point here.

01:25:52.000 Okay, so I'm going to ask you a series of questions, Tommy.

01:25:55.000 First question.

01:25:56.000 Your perfect man.

01:25:57.000 Is he above or below six foot?

01:26:00.000 Above.

01:26:01.000 Absolutely.

01:26:02.000 Okay, we got it.

01:26:04.000 Second question.

01:26:07.000 Your ideal man.

01:26:09.000 Would you consider him to be rugged or pretty?

01:26:13.000 Rugged.

01:26:14.000 Okay, put that in there, Jared.

01:26:15.000 I think it's got it.

01:26:18.000 We got that in there?

01:26:19.000 Okay.

01:26:19.000 We got that in there.

01:26:20.000 Your ideal man, Tommy, would he have brown hair, blonde hair, red hair, or you prefer not to answer?

01:26:30.000 I mean, I hate to go along with your Hitler Youth thing, but probably blonde hair. 0.83

01:26:34.000 I'm sorry, light hair.

01:26:36.000 Okay.

01:26:37.000 Processing sexy information.

01:26:40.000 Okay.

01:26:40.000 Dreamy.

01:26:41.000 It's got it.

01:26:42.000 Sounds pretty dreamy.

01:26:43.000 But one other...

01:26:44.000 I should list a caveat.

01:26:46.000 It also detects...

01:26:46.000 Kinky.

01:26:47.000 It's...

01:26:48.000 It's in there.

01:26:48.000 Stop there.

01:26:49.000 Stop it, Dream Machine.

01:26:50.000 This is a nice lady. 1.00

01:26:51.000 One caveat.

01:26:53.000 You may even be wrong about what you want, and it'll actually pick up through vocal.

01:26:57.000 It's kind of like a lie detector test.

01:26:58.000 So, you know, you could be wrong.

01:26:58.000 It picks up.

01:27:00.000 Maybe you want a guy with brown hair.

01:27:01.000 I thought I liked women with brown hair. 1.00

01:27:03.000 My wife has blonde hair. 1.00

01:27:04.000 Okay, we have two more questions here.

01:27:07.000 Ideal man, his political worldview, would it have to be conservative, left-wing, or undisclosed?

01:27:16.000 Preferably conservative.

01:27:17.000 Yeah, let's go conservative.

01:27:19.000 Okay.

01:27:20.000 In here.

01:27:21.000 In putting.

01:27:23.000 Okay.

01:27:23.000 Out putting.

01:27:24.000 In putting.

01:27:26.000 Out putting.

01:27:26.000 What is that?

01:27:27.000 Stop it with that dream machine.

01:27:28.000 That's enough.

01:27:29.000 This is a nice lady. 1.00

01:27:31.000 That was a perfect dream machine.

01:27:32.000 Eva, this is a scientific patent on this?

01:27:33.000 That's what they said.

01:27:34.000 That's what the box said.

01:27:35.000 Gosh, they'll patent anything nowadays.

01:27:36.000 Okay, final question.

01:27:38.000 This ideal man, is he self-employed?

01:27:42.000 Or employed by somebody else ensuring financial security?

01:27:46.000 I guess the question is, what's more important?

01:27:48.000 Someone who is individualistic or provides security?

01:27:54.000 Security.

01:27:55.000 Yeah.

01:27:56.000 Security?

01:27:57.000 I'm surprised.

01:27:58.000 Computing, lock her up, and throw away the key. 1.00

01:28:02.000 Why?

01:28:03.000 I don't know.

01:28:03.000 I think it's about ready.

01:28:05.000 Okay, so do we have a perfect match?

01:28:07.000 Is it giving you an output?

01:28:08.000 We've got somebody here.

01:28:09.000 Okay, tell me, Lorraine, we have your perfect match.

01:28:11.000 I'm so excited, yes.

01:28:11.000 Are you ready?

01:28:13.000 All right.

01:28:14.000 Scientific matching process.

01:28:17.000 Your perfect dream match is...

01:28:24.000 Dean Cain.

01:28:25.000 Wow!

01:28:26.000 Dean Cain!

01:28:27.000 I didn't know, I didn't, did you, did you expect that?

01:28:31.000 I didn't expect that.

01:28:32.000 Most famous for his portrayal of Superman on Lois and Clark, a popular television series in the 1990s.

01:28:41.000 Okay, we get it.

01:28:42.000 You know who Dean Cain is, right?

01:28:43.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:28:44.000 He DMs you.

01:28:44.000 In fact, Dean Cain is also a super athlete.

01:28:49.000 He played football on scholarship at Princeton, impressing the crowds and winning their hearts.

01:28:56.000 It sounds like we know where...

01:28:58.000 So you said Dean Cain DMs you?

01:28:59.000 Because he's a friend of the show.

01:29:01.000 He's DM'd me before in the past, yes.

01:29:03.000 Okay.

01:29:04.000 Also, guest start on Law& Order.

01:29:07.000 I didn't know that.

01:29:08.000 That's impressive, though.

01:29:08.000 That's impressive.

01:29:09.000 When you have the machine, sometimes it doesn't know exactly.

01:29:12.000 It just keeps giving you information.

01:29:13.000 So, would you say, would you be, if we could set it up on the show, would you have a conversation with Dean King?

01:29:17.000 Because we could make that happen.

01:29:19.000 Sounds good.

01:29:20.000 Also, one of the most successful celebrity on the celebrity edition of American Gladiator.

01:29:20.000 I mean...

01:29:28.000 Okay, I get it.

01:29:30.000 I can't believe that, though.

01:29:31.000 Did you know that at bottom?

01:29:32.000 I honestly didn't know.

01:29:33.000 Did you know that about Dean Cain?

01:29:35.000 The last part?

01:29:36.000 No, I made it on everything.

01:29:38.000 Believe it.

01:29:39.000 Also, Dean Cain posted Ripley's Believe It or Not.

01:29:45.000 I didn't know that either.

01:29:46.000 Apparently, he's a man of...

01:29:48.000 Dean Cain...

01:29:50.000 Okay, I get it.

01:29:51.000 I get it, Dream Machine.

01:29:53.000 We get it, Dream Machine.

01:29:55.000 You like...

01:29:55.000 No, you don't, Dean Cain.

01:29:58.000 Okay, Jared, can you shut it off?

01:29:59.000 No, you don't.

01:30:01.000 Dean Cain is a national trigger.

01:30:04.000 Unplug it.

01:30:04.000 Often overlooked for modern pretty boys who do not have the same athletic nor acting pedigree.

01:30:12.000 Just unplug it.

01:30:12.000 I don't know where the plug is.

01:30:15.000 There we go.

01:30:17.000 Sorry.

01:30:18.000 Tommy, I'm really sorry about that.

01:30:21.000 It could be right about you.

01:30:22.000 The machine was very forceful.

01:30:23.000 I mean, it really was.

01:30:24.000 I think the machine loves Dean King.

01:30:26.000 The generator power.

01:30:27.000 Dean King also provides the genes necessary for successful offspring.

01:30:32.000 Tommy, I'm so sorry.

01:30:34.000 Jared, take it.

01:30:35.000 I'm sorry.

01:30:36.000 Stop it.

01:30:38.000 What'd you do?

01:30:43.000 I think it's fixed.

01:30:46.000 We'll wait for the 2.0 model.

01:30:48.000 We'll wait for the 2.0.

01:30:49.000 Tommy, I am so sorry.

01:30:52.000 It was unbelievably unprofessional and inappropriate.

01:30:55.000 Back to the point.

01:30:56.000 Dean Cain, you said that you DM'd Dean Cain.

01:30:59.000 Were you aware that he was conservative?

01:31:00.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:31:02.000 And does he sound like someone would be in your wheelhouse?

01:31:06.000 I mean, you know, he was on TV in the 90s.

01:31:09.000 I was born in the 90s.

01:31:10.000 Maybe he was a slight bit too young, but hey, you never know.

01:31:14.000 I'm surprised that it wasn't a non-negotiable for your guy to be conservative.

01:31:19.000 No!

01:31:20.000 I don't like boring people.

01:31:22.000 Sometimes, okay, I say this, I say this...

01:31:26.000 Very carefully.

01:31:28.000 Sometimes conservative men can be like your typical college Republican, yacht club type of guy, and I'd rather, I mean, I don't want a flaming liberal, but it's not a necessity.

01:31:40.000 All right, Tommy Loren, we will bring you back soon.

01:31:42.000 We must go.

01:31:43.000 Stay tuned.

01:31:44.000 Oh, Jack!

01:32:01.000 I've never done this before!

01:32:03.000 Have you had a lot of nude models?

01:32:08.000 I know.

01:32:09.000 No, I forgot to shave my pants.

01:32:10.000 Don't show this to my husband, Billy Zane.

01:32:13.000 Don't show this to my husband, Billy Zane.

01:32:30.000 Politics.

01:32:31.000 Civility?

01:32:31.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

01:32:34.000 Entertainment.

01:32:35.000 I don't like entertainment.

01:32:36.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

01:32:39.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

01:32:41.000 You have a very unhealthy body.

01:32:43.000 You should have a horrible body image. 0.99

01:32:44.000 Not a big home improvement market.

01:32:47.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

01:32:49.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal. 0.97

01:32:53.000 You're a strange animal. 0.95

01:32:55.000 That's what I know. 0.99

01:32:57.000 You're getting louder with Crowder. 0.99

01:33:00.000 But you're a strange animal. 0.88

01:33:02.000 I've got to follow. 0.95

01:33:05.000 Oh, I'm in the speedy to sound.

01:33:11.000 All right, we're in the third hour.

01:33:13.000 I am your host, Stephen Crowder, louderwithcrowder.com.

01:33:16.000 Of course, always producing with me in studio is Jared, who is not gay. 0.91

01:33:20.000 Jared, I fulfill my legal obligations.

01:33:20.000 Follow him at Not Gay.

01:33:22.000 Draw your own conclusions.

01:33:23.000 The next guest, we've had him on many times.

01:33:25.000 And people actually...

01:33:26.000 He wouldn't be, I guess, what you would call a high-profile guest.

01:33:30.000 But people love him because he's a smart guy, let alone fact.

01:33:34.000 Open-heart surgeon.

01:33:37.000 Neurosurgeon.

01:33:39.000 Actually a rocket scientist.

01:33:41.000 And he didn't do it officially because he's a hobbyist.

01:33:45.000 But he actually beat...

01:33:47.000 He didn't beat.

01:33:49.000 He placed top five Tour de France records had he actually competed.

01:33:53.000 Gerald Morgan, thank you for being on, sir.

01:33:55.000 Thank you very much.

01:33:56.000 I appreciate that.

01:33:57.000 It was top four.

01:33:58.000 Top four.

01:33:59.000 Okay, that's right.

01:34:00.000 On that little machine bike that they send that has a little screen right there, I beat the little figure in front of me to get four.

01:34:05.000 So it was great.

01:34:07.000 Does it come with EPO and HGH? Hopefully.

01:34:11.000 Hopefully it does.

01:34:14.000 Well, you and I now have this in common.

01:34:16.000 I had the knee surgery this week, and you've had multiple knee surgeries.

01:34:20.000 You played football at Notre Dame.

01:34:20.000 Not many people know.

01:34:22.000 We're quite the star athlete.

01:34:24.000 How many knee surgeries have you had?

01:34:26.000 I've had three.

01:34:27.000 Two on the right knee and one on the left.

01:34:29.000 But they were all pretty much minor cartilage tear stuff that needed to be taken care of and cleaned up.

01:34:34.000 Well, that's what ended up happening with me.

01:34:36.000 There was a ligament tear, but they said, you know what, we think it'll heal.

01:34:38.000 It's healing really well.

01:34:39.000 It's not quite stage three, but they had to clean out a lot of cartilage.

01:34:43.000 Please tell me you felt better once they did that.

01:34:46.000 I don't know that I can tell you that.

01:34:48.000 Yes.

01:34:48.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:34:49.000 I did.

01:34:50.000 I felt a lot better.

01:34:51.000 It took a little while.

01:34:52.000 It took a little mental getting over the wobbly knee for a bit, and then everything was good to go, and you're back on the field.

01:34:58.000 Okay.

01:34:59.000 Well, Gerald has actually been helping us out.

01:35:00.000 Since we broadcast this show live once a week, and the debates are going on this week, this is when we're broadcasting it live.

01:35:06.000 If you're listening on our syndication network, of course, we're very appreciative.

01:35:10.000 Of course, our home station, Wham!, Friday morning.

01:35:12.000 But the debates are going on, so I haven't been able to watch it.

01:35:14.000 Now, you've been watching it, right, Gerald?

01:35:16.000 I've been watching it.

01:35:17.000 I have a wine shop, and there's nothing better than having a glass of wine and watching a debate.

01:35:22.000 Yes, except many things.

01:35:24.000 So, what's going on? 1.00

01:35:29.000 Rubio made the jab at Donald Trump's penis, which of course is out of line, but apparently Donald Trump wanted to insist that he has a very large appendage. 1.00

01:35:38.000 You know how you know a guy has a small penis? 1.00

01:35:40.000 When he goes out of his way to insist that he has a big penis. 1.00

01:35:42.000 Yeah, I think he doth protesteth too much. 1.00

01:35:46.000 I can't believe this is a presidential election.

01:35:48.000 Can you?

01:35:49.000 Well, I'll be honest.

01:35:50.000 I mean, there was a couple of exchanges where he and Rubio were going at it, and I thought that this was two kids fighting in high school, not two guys that were trying to get my vote to become president of the United States.

01:36:01.000 Cruz and Casey, for all his faults, actually seemed more presidential on the stage than either one of those guys in the I think Rubio's just figured it out.

01:36:09.000 Like, I've got to go for the knockout punch and try to take out Trump, or I'm not going to make it anywhere.

01:36:14.000 And I don't know.

01:36:15.000 I think he's looking small, to be honest.

01:36:17.000 No pun intended.

01:36:18.000 I see what you did there.

01:36:19.000 Well, I hate to bring this up on you, because you're usually right, but you remember when you came on this program and Donald Trump announced it, and you said there was no way.

01:36:28.000 No way. 0.99

01:36:31.000 Steven, you're crazy. 1.00

01:36:32.000 You don't even need to think about it. 1.00

01:36:34.000 I mean, come on.

01:36:35.000 And you convinced me, and I think not gay Gerald, I thought, okay, maybe. 0.90

01:36:40.000 Gerald, how could he be wrong?

01:36:42.000 I've got another prediction.

01:36:43.000 Okay.

01:36:44.000 It's not going to happen.

01:36:45.000 You don't think it's going to be Donald Trump?

01:36:46.000 It's not going to happen.

01:36:47.000 You still think it's going to be someone else?

01:36:48.000 I do.

01:36:50.000 Are you just saying that because you want a safe face?

01:36:51.000 I really hope so.

01:36:55.000 All right, that's what I thought.

01:36:56.000 Well, the good news is he's got Marco Rubio, and I think Ted Cruz is thinking the same thing.

01:37:00.000 So that's the only reason to explain why they have just now considering going after him.

01:37:06.000 Donald Trump?

01:37:07.000 Yeah.

01:37:08.000 Well, Rubio, I think...

01:37:09.000 All of this is too little too late.

01:37:10.000 It's all too little too late.

01:37:12.000 You can't put the jack back in the box.

01:37:17.000 You can't put the micropenis back in the fly.

01:37:19.000 That's the problem.

01:37:21.000 It's hard to manipulate.

01:37:23.000 You've got the conservative media now kind of starting to turn on Trump a little bit.

01:37:23.000 Here's the thing, though.

01:37:27.000 Finally, they've been just giving him free airtime this entire time.

01:37:31.000 So Chris Wallace actually asked him a really interesting question about how he's going to balance the budget and how much money he's going to save.

01:37:35.000 save and he said well you said you're going to save 300 billion dollars by negotiating our contracts better with some of the pharmaceutical companies and trump said yeah absolutely that's absolutely true and he said no you can't you can't do that in fact because we don't spend that much money on pharmaceuticals we spend 78 billion dollars through medicare and farm you're going to save more money than the program actually cost do you have a real plan to balance the budget you know what i hear when i hear that

01:38:01.000 I hear all of the Donald Trump supporters saying it was a loaded question that they wouldn't give anyone else, and it's unfair, and you should boycott it.

01:38:07.000 But he asked Ted Cruz, and Ted Cruz goes, well, I'm going to abolish the IRS. He goes, well, if you're going to do that, Chris Wallace said, you have to have a plan in place to collect the taxes that you still want to have and all of the other information.

01:38:17.000 And he said, you're absolutely right.

01:38:18.000 Why don't you go to my website and see a point-by-point plan on how we do it?

01:38:22.000 And he answered the rest of the question.

01:38:24.000 So Donald Trump just says, I'm going to make America great again, and we're going to do great stuff.

01:38:28.000 We're going to negotiate.

01:38:29.000 And he doesn't have any substance to back it up.

01:38:31.000 So you're telling me there's a chance.

01:38:35.000 That's right.

01:38:36.000 I don't think so.

01:38:38.000 I think it's Trump versus Clinton.

01:38:40.000 I think it's the world's greatest reality show.

01:38:42.000 And like I said earlier in the show, listen, Trump isn't my guy.

01:38:46.000 But if the people pick Trump, it needs to be Trump.

01:38:49.000 I don't want to see the kind of Democrat action happening with the RNC and the superdelegates and Dirty Pool. 0.87

01:38:55.000 We can't do that.

01:38:56.000 I think we both agree on that, right?

01:38:57.000 Third party, right?

01:38:58.000 No, not third party, but I'm saying you don't want to see happen with Trump what they effectively did to Bernie. 0.93

01:39:06.000 I mean, Bernie got screwed on it.

01:39:07.000 I can't stand Bernie Sanders, but the idea of superdelegates, we both agree, even if we're not Trump supporters, you don't want to see that happen to the Republican Party.

01:39:15.000 No, I think you and I are both willing to fight to the death to save a system that works long-term than to have a short-term gain.

01:39:21.000 Oh my gosh, you're going to get so much flack for that.

01:39:23.000 But you know what's funny?

01:39:24.000 I don't come from...

01:39:25.000 People always go...

01:39:26.000 I was raised in Canada, so I voted in both elections.

01:39:30.000 I voted for Stephen Harper.

01:39:31.000 It's a parliamentary system.

01:39:33.000 And if people think that the two-party system, it's not perfect, but you compare it to the parliamentary system, I mean, look at Europe.

01:39:39.000 Look at Canada.

01:39:40.000 You have people getting elected to very serious positions without even close to getting half of the vote.

01:39:45.000 So it is not the same – it's not at all the same kind of a representative as we have with the constitutional republic with the two-party system here.

01:39:54.000 It's flawed, but people who think they want the parliamentary system, I don't think they know what they're talking about.

01:40:00.000 Would you actually go third party?

01:40:01.000 I can't imagine I'm hearing those words from your mouth.

01:40:04.000 Okay, can I put a scenario forward for you? 0.99

01:40:07.000 As long as it doesn't involve any more penis talk. 0.98

01:40:09.000 I'm tired with this. 0.98

01:40:09.000 Well, that's no, not at all. 0.98

01:40:12.000 So Donald Trump, if he gets the nomination, I don't know.

01:40:15.000 And you and I kind of talked about this and we've gone back and forth.

01:40:18.000 But I don't know that I can vote for him in good conscience.

01:40:21.000 But then again, I don't want to vote for Hillary Clinton.

01:40:22.000 But then again, I don't want to not vote.

01:40:25.000 So I would almost be better if somebody else would run conservative third parties, split the vote, we lose.

01:40:32.000 I know people hate me right now, but Hillary Clinton wins. 1.00

01:40:34.000 We have an opposition Congress to keep her in check. 0.99

01:40:36.000 I'm much more comfortable with that than I am with a Donald Trump victory and some guy that's all about personality that's going to go off half-cocked and do some crazy stuff.

01:40:45.000 And he's going to have a Congress that's pretty much on his side for a lot of the time.

01:40:49.000 And then we don't win another presidential election for God knows how long.

01:40:53.000 No, I think you're absolutely right.

01:40:54.000 I mean, listen, there's a pendulum, right?

01:40:56.000 And the pendulum right now with Obama has gone pretty far.

01:41:00.000 Hillary Clinton is such a feminist, and that's just so unappealing. 1.00

01:41:04.000 I think she pushes that pendulum if she's elected where it swings back. 1.00

01:41:08.000 Right.

01:41:09.000 That's what I think.

01:41:10.000 Donald Trump doesn't push that pendulum. 0.99

01:41:12.000 Donald Trump is an amoeba, right? 0.97

01:41:14.000 And that's why people like him. 0.99

01:41:15.000 He's not principled.

01:41:16.000 That's why his supporters like him.

01:41:18.000 He doesn't hold an ideology.

01:41:19.000 They actually like that he's inconsistent.

01:41:21.000 And I can respect that, that they think he's just pragmatic.

01:41:24.000 But if you're talking long-term, I think there's a strong chance whoever is next is a one-term president.

01:41:32.000 I think if it's Donald Trump, it's almost guaranteed, if only out of his own volition.

01:41:36.000 I don't even think this guy – I mean, he's 70 years old.

01:41:39.000 I don't think he's going to want a second term, and I think he's the kind of guy who's going to just light it on fire and walk away laughing.

01:41:45.000 I think they're going to – he's going to get in the office and go, wait, I actually have to work?

01:41:49.000 You know, I can't just say big things and people do – No, it has the best words.

01:41:54.000 We're going to do big things, boys.

01:41:55.000 Just stick with me.

01:41:56.000 Yeah, that doesn't work on day three.

01:41:58.000 The best words.

01:41:59.000 Did you hear that quote?

01:42:00.000 We have the best words.

01:42:01.000 We're going to use the best words.

01:42:03.000 What?

01:42:04.000 I think whoever, whatever happens this time, come next election, Marco Rubio wins, even if it's by...

01:42:10.000 Hillary one term, Donald one term, or if Rubio somehow magically clenches this time out.

01:42:15.000 That's my prediction.

01:42:16.000 Rubio is... 1.00

01:42:17.000 Are you mental? 0.99

01:42:18.000 Maybe. 0.99

01:42:19.000 Maybe.

01:42:20.000 Maybe, but I... Think about it.

01:42:22.000 Think about it.

01:42:23.000 Don't listen to Jared and the people of his ilk. 0.99

01:42:26.000 Are you crazy? 1.00

01:42:27.000 Those guys are retards. 1.00

01:42:28.000 He just hasn't been in it long enough. 0.97

01:42:30.000 It's going to be someone who you likely don't know.

01:42:32.000 That's the big thing.

01:42:34.000 Next time around?

01:42:35.000 Yeah.

01:42:36.000 No one thought it was going to be Donald Trump.

01:42:38.000 No one thought that.

01:42:40.000 Everyone for the longest time thought it was Rubio.

01:42:41.000 Everyone thought it was Cruz.

01:42:42.000 They're always looking at some savior and it changes.

01:42:44.000 There is no savior.

01:42:45.000 In any case, this is documented.

01:42:48.000 Let Gerald speak.

01:42:49.000 Okay, Gerald, what's on your mind here?

01:42:50.000 We're talking about the debates.

01:42:51.000 What's your big takeaway from these debates right now? 1.00

01:42:54.000 Just how stupid people actually are in this country. 1.00

01:42:58.000 Oh my God. 1.00

01:42:59.000 I mean, they're voting for Donald Trump!

01:43:01.000 Stop it! 0.99

01:43:02.000 You're insulting the audience.

01:43:04.000 No, I'm accurately assessing their intellect.

01:43:07.000 I apologize.

01:43:08.000 Not your audience.

01:43:08.000 I'm saying the people that are out there voting for Trump.

01:43:11.000 I don't understand it.

01:43:12.000 How can you vote for somebody...

01:43:14.000 I understand what you said a minute ago, that they think he's a principled guy, which is the funniest thing that I've heard about Donald Trump ever said, because he's the most unprincipled guy.

01:43:22.000 No, no, they think he's unprincipled.

01:43:23.000 They like that he's unprincipled, yeah.

01:43:25.000 I understand that, but nobody...

01:43:27.000 I think Donald Trump got into this thinking he was going to get some ratings out of it and he was going to move on.

01:43:31.000 And then he's like, you know what?

01:43:32.000 Let me move the line a little bit.

01:43:33.000 I'm going to go after Megyn Kelly.

01:43:34.000 Maybe this will be the point where I find out that's the line.

01:43:37.000 Well, no, that's not the line. 0.87

01:43:38.000 Let me just say that I'm going to kill somebody in Times Square and not lose a single voter that for sure... 0.79

01:43:43.000 No, no, he didn't say he would. 0.98

01:43:45.000 He said he could.

01:43:45.000 Let's be fair here.

01:43:46.000 He was saying in a hypothetical.

01:43:48.000 Hypothetically, he could.

01:43:49.000 And then he goes, well, wait.

01:43:50.000 No, they're still there.

01:43:51.000 They still like me.

01:43:52.000 I don't know where the line is.

01:43:54.000 If that doesn't get you laughed out of the game, I don't know what will.

01:43:57.000 No, I think, well, there you go.

01:43:58.000 There you go.

01:43:58.000 See, you just contradicted yourself.

01:43:59.000 How dare you, you rocket scientist.

01:44:01.000 We're going to have to go to a break.

01:44:02.000 More of Gerald Morgan, Lauder with Crowder.

01:44:04.000 Stay tuned.

01:44:05.000 Stay tuned.

01:44:35.000 The Reagan Middle of the Ladder with Crowder, I'm Perry Maffleton.

01:44:39.000 We now return you to Governor John Kasich's live presidential rally in progress.

01:44:48.000 No, no, no!

01:44:50.000 Keep your jackets on!

01:44:52.000 You don't need to go to the exits.

01:44:55.000 We're still in this running a positive campaign.

01:45:00.000 Come on.

01:45:03.000 Some of the beginnings end.

01:45:08.000 I really hope someone makes me VP. Please someone who's not me, make me VP. John Kasich would make a great VP. Make me VP. We will keep you abreast with breaking coverage as the rally unfolds.

01:45:32.000 Here at Louder with Crowder, I'm Perry Mothafone.

01:45:40.000 Harold, I'd have a good mind to just toss this broad overboard. 1.00

01:45:43.000 Here we are on this expedition. 0.98

01:45:45.000 She keeps ranting about some heart of the ocean emerald or some sh**. 0.97

01:45:49.000 She keeps ranting about some heart. 0.98

01:46:19.000 She keeps ranting about some heart.

01:46:27.000 I tell you what, I am definitely being censored on the Twitter because I'm putting up these polls and a lot of people aren't seeing them.

01:46:33.000 Gerald Morgan, we're back.

01:46:34.000 Are you still with us, sir?

01:46:36.000 Yeah, I'm here.

01:46:37.000 All right.

01:46:37.000 Well, I put up the poll.

01:46:39.000 There's only a few votes.

01:46:40.000 There's not enough of a sample size.

01:46:41.000 It's been up one minute on Twitter.

01:46:43.000 50% right now, you can bring this up, Jared, on the screen.

01:46:47.000 50% agree with you that they go third party.

01:46:50.000 If it's Trump, 33% disagree.

01:46:52.000 70% answer, I hate things!

01:46:55.000 So, that gives you a pretty significant barometer of our audience.

01:47:01.000 Um...

01:47:02.000 You're going back and forth here, not what do you want.

01:47:06.000 You're a betting man.

01:47:08.000 I know you're not, because you're a man of the cloth as well.

01:47:11.000 Qualified reverend.

01:47:12.000 He can marry you, this gentleman. 0.99

01:47:15.000 I'm not going to marry gay Jared. 0.99

01:47:16.000 Let's specify. 0.99

01:47:17.000 Not gay Jared. 1.00

01:47:19.000 I can perform the ceremony if it's a woman and a man. 0.99

01:47:24.000 What about Caitlyn Jenner?

01:47:26.000 That gets tricky.

01:47:28.000 What about Caitlyn Jenner who now endorses Ted Cruz?

01:47:31.000 There's a wrinkle.

01:47:31.000 Ah!

01:47:32.000 Ah, there we go.

01:47:33.000 But Caitlyn Jenner could technically be there for both, I think, right?

01:47:36.000 Identifying as a woman actually being a man.

01:47:38.000 Could marry him herself.

01:47:38.000 Nope.

01:47:40.000 Nope, that's transphobic.

01:47:41.000 I don't know where you think.

01:47:43.000 How dare you! 0.99

01:47:44.000 How dare you! 0.99

01:47:45.000 You're a betting man.

01:47:48.000 Who do you think is the GOP nominee?

01:47:50.000 Not what you want.

01:47:50.000 Who do you really think?

01:47:51.000 Gun to your head right now. 1.00

01:47:53.000 You have to take that. 1.00

01:47:54.000 Gun to my head right now. 1.00

01:47:55.000 Inspiring gun violence. 0.99

01:47:57.000 Let's listen to this.

01:47:58.000 Wow.

01:47:59.000 Wow, yes.

01:48:00.000 So here's what I think will happen.

01:48:02.000 I am a betting man that it will be Ted Cruz as the GOP nominee.

01:48:07.000 Really? 0.97

01:48:07.000 A gun to your head now? 0.97

01:48:08.000 Gun to my head right now. 1.00

01:48:10.000 I don't think people can stomach Rubio.

01:48:13.000 I don't think Trump wins it because too many establishment people don't want him.

01:48:17.000 Dark Horse, Mitt Romney in a brokered convention, but I doubt that'll happen.

01:48:21.000 But gun to the head, I'm probably saying Cruz. 0.95

01:48:22.000 That would be awful. 0.99

01:48:24.000 Mitt Romney.

01:48:25.000 47% of you love me.

01:48:27.000 That would be the biggest attribute to all of America.

01:48:28.000 So bad.

01:48:30.000 You might as well get...

01:48:32.000 I mean, Hillary Clinton literally wears the pants in that debate. 1.00

01:48:37.000 Her pants are more ill-fitting than Mitt Romney's.

01:48:41.000 It's true.

01:48:41.000 He's got new high waters, though.

01:48:43.000 They've come out with a new release.

01:48:44.000 What she would do to him would be a felony in 48 states. 0.94

01:48:47.000 That's what I'm getting at.

01:48:49.000 Okay.

01:48:50.000 I don't see the path.

01:48:52.000 I don't see the path now as we go into the next states, Michigan, Midwest.

01:48:56.000 I don't see Ted Cruz picking up any of those states.

01:48:59.000 I see Rubio doing better.

01:49:00.000 That's why he's in.

01:49:00.000 He makes that case, and it's just split, and I see Trump winning more.

01:49:04.000 Yeah, but he's not going to get to the magic number.

01:49:06.000 He's going to get to the convention and not have it sewn up, and none of them will, and I think there's going to be some chicanery that goes on that makes it to where he doesn't become the nominee. 1.00

01:49:14.000 You know what?

01:49:15.000 I don't even think most people are entirely sure how that works at a brokered convention.

01:49:19.000 I'm not entirely sure how that process works.

01:49:21.000 Aren't there brokers running around?

01:49:23.000 No?

01:49:23.000 I don't think so.

01:49:24.000 Not like the pit on the stock exchange.

01:49:25.000 It's a great place if you're looking to just toss your money in an index fund so you can outpace Trump's wealth.

01:49:31.000 It's one of those things people talk about a lot, and I readily admit, I'm like, I don't know exactly how that works with a brokered convention.

01:49:36.000 I know we talk about it.

01:49:37.000 I know they have the ability to put a wrinkle in the plans.

01:49:39.000 I'm not entirely sure how that works.

01:49:42.000 Are you, Gerald?

01:49:43.000 I'm not entirely sure, but I know that they have some flexibility at that point if they get through a couple of votes where delegates can actually change their vote.

01:49:51.000 They don't have to go with what the state has said.

01:49:53.000 So there's some flexibility there, and if some kind of deal is struck, I think that's what you're going to see.

01:49:59.000 And it could be a Cruz-Rubio thing.

01:50:01.000 I know a lot of people are pushing for that now, but if you get to the convention and it looks like Trump is in the lead but he's not going to clinch it, then you're going to start to see some finagling going on.

01:50:09.000 Well, I don't think there's anything untoward if Rubio and Cruz do not.

01:50:09.000 Yeah.

01:50:12.000 I think that's fine.

01:50:12.000 No, that's true.

01:50:14.000 But I think the thing that would force that is a lot of the establishment guys making it very clear to Trump that come hell or high water, he is not getting out of the convention as the nominee.

01:50:23.000 I don't think that's it.

01:50:24.000 I think if that happens, I think that's a disaster.

01:50:26.000 I do too.

01:50:27.000 I don't like that.

01:50:28.000 The problem with this is you're talking about establishment guys at a convention.

01:50:31.000 The person they want less than Donald Trump is Ted Cruz.

01:50:33.000 It's Ted Cruz.

01:50:34.000 I understand that.

01:50:35.000 But they can't put Rubio in that chair and they can't put Romney in that chair unless Rubio does something incredible between now and then.

01:50:42.000 Just saying.

01:50:42.000 I don't know.

01:50:43.000 Maybe he's a grower, not a shower.

01:50:44.000 We don't know about Rubio.

01:50:45.000 I think they would put Rubio.

01:50:47.000 I think.

01:50:48.000 Yeah, they would.

01:50:50.000 The establishment prefers Rubio at that point.

01:50:53.000 And they can justify because he's won a state or so.

01:50:56.000 Let's say he miraculously wins Florida.

01:50:58.000 Yeah, let's say maybe, maybe wins Florida, probably not.

01:51:02.000 The big difference with Florida, and Gerald is a Texan, you know, Ted Cruz won by a significant margin in Texas.

01:51:07.000 Not as much as one would think, but still significant.

01:51:11.000 The big difference is people in Texas haven't bought the Ted Cruz lies because people who voted for him got exactly what they voted for.

01:51:16.000 The satisfaction rating with Cruz and his voting constituency is as high as one can actually get.

01:51:24.000 The difference between that and Marco Rubio's home state in Florida, I think there's a big screw you vote coming Marco's way because he betrayed them.

01:51:30.000 And the punishment of it is it's a winner-take-all state.

01:51:32.000 Yeah.

01:51:33.000 Which is going to hurt.

01:51:33.000 Yeah.

01:51:35.000 I don't think it's really fair.

01:51:37.000 I think...

01:51:37.000 I don't know.

01:51:39.000 There's no comparison between Florida and Texas.

01:51:42.000 I don't know.

01:51:43.000 You know, there are a lot of things, and I'll talk about this more after the break.

01:51:45.000 I think you have to throw out a lot of the rules, too.

01:51:47.000 Don't you, Gerald?

01:51:48.000 I mean, at this point, nobody can make sense of it.

01:51:50.000 Well, when a cartoon character gets into the race and does well, it throws out everything.

01:51:54.000 I mean, nobody thought that that's what we would have, but yes, we do.

01:51:57.000 Well, Hillary Clinton, you know, we're at a point where someone who is so unbelievably unlikable.

01:52:05.000 I mean, the superdelegates, it's unreal.

01:52:08.000 I just think you have to say, all right, maybe the whole system is rigged.

01:52:11.000 I hate to sound like that pothead, but maybe.

01:52:13.000 I think a lot of things need to change, and I think this election has shown us that more than any that I can remember for sure in my generation, but maybe any in history.

01:52:22.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

01:52:24.000 They always say this is the most important election in history.

01:52:26.000 I don't know if this is the most important election in American history.

01:52:28.000 I think they say that every time, every time around.

01:52:30.000 So I don't know.

01:52:31.000 I think this is the most defining in a long time in that this is not how elections have ever been.

01:52:36.000 There's very extreme paths we're looking at.

01:52:39.000 When you compare the Bernie to the Ted Cruz to...

01:52:42.000 The wild card that is Trump.

01:52:44.000 The paths that we can go on, I think, are much more diverse than usual.

01:52:48.000 They're much more split.

01:52:49.000 Diversity is good, right?

01:52:50.000 We like diversity.

01:52:51.000 Just diversity at any cost.

01:52:53.000 If you compare the rhetoric of Obama and McCain, for example, you know, back then if you called Obama socialist, they said it was like the equivalent to using the N-word.

01:53:01.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:01.000 Absolutely.

01:53:02.000 And now you have Bernie Sanders, who's a self-avowed socialist, and Ted Cruz.

01:53:05.000 So there's definitely a widening.

01:53:08.000 All right, Gerald, where can people find you, brilliant man?

01:53:12.000 At GMorganJR, GMorganJr on Twitter.

01:53:14.000 And tell him if you think he's wrong.

01:53:15.000 He might go third party, but he did justify his case.

01:53:18.000 Send your hate Gerald's way.

01:53:20.000 Not mine.

01:53:21.000 Tommy described me, by the way, as the perfect man.

01:53:23.000 Tommy described you as the perfect man?

01:53:24.000 It was me.

01:53:25.000 I don't know if she meant to, but it was me.

01:53:27.000 I tell you what, the dream machine is a very scientific process.

01:53:30.000 It didn't shoot you out.

01:53:30.000 I don't know.

01:53:31.000 I don't even know that you were in the system.

01:53:33.000 I wasn't even in the top 100.

01:53:34.000 I think it still had your slave name before he dished it to the Nation of Islam. 0.97

01:53:38.000 We must go.

01:53:39.000 Lotter with Crowder.

01:53:40.000 Stay tuned.

01:53:41.000 I can't believe this is happening.

01:54:06.000 I'm tired!

01:54:06.000 This is the worst thing I've ever seen!

01:54:07.000 I know!

01:54:08.000 Can you help me?

01:54:08.000 I know!

01:54:09.000 No!

01:54:10.000 Look what happened to that guy in the propeller!

01:54:14.000 He went off the propeller! 1.00

01:54:16.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:54:18.000 I needed a new model! 1.00

01:54:18.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:54:19.000 That's what you offered me! 1.00

01:54:20.000 Don't push me!

01:54:21.000 I'm not pushing you!

01:54:22.000 I'm trying to save us! 1.00

01:54:24.000 Shut the f*** up! 1.00

01:54:26.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:54:27.000 Stephen Crowder here. 1.00

01:54:35.000 Hey, Jared, what are you doing?

01:54:36.000 I'm just having trouble getting through this book.

01:54:38.000 That's because you can't read.

01:54:39.000 I know!

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01:55:25.000 Now, do you have your GED equivalency, Jared?

01:55:27.000 I think so.

01:55:27.000 No, is that important?

01:55:28.000 I mean, you might want to give them a call.

01:55:30.000 That's FreedomProjectAcademy at FPEUSA.org.

01:55:35.000 All right, okay. okay.

01:55:54.000 I know, listen, we've been tactful.

01:55:57.000 I think people know, I tell people, I'm not a Trump guy.

01:56:01.000 We've had as many Trump people on here...

01:56:03.000 I think that's the idea at least people are starting to get.

01:56:05.000 The opinion people are starting to craft of Stephen Crowder.

01:56:08.000 But we've had Milo on, we've had Gavin on, we had John Phillips on today, we've invited Trump, we've invited surrogates.

01:56:15.000 No go.

01:56:16.000 Right?

01:56:18.000 So...

01:56:20.000 There.

01:56:21.000 We do try and be fair and have that dialogue.

01:56:24.000 Now, let me just say something here.

01:56:27.000 We're talking about this election.

01:56:31.000 Republicans are magnificent at one thing.

01:56:36.000 They're a marvel at losing.

01:56:39.000 And they deserve to lose. 0.99

01:56:41.000 Republicans deserve to lose.

01:56:43.000 You're in a position that you deserve.

01:56:46.000 And I'm not talking about the establishment.

01:56:48.000 I'm not talking about Fox News, though I think a lot of conservative media has been entirely about preaching to an echo chamber and making sure that you collect those dollar-dollar bills, not about getting your ideas out to another form.

01:57:00.000 That's why everything we do is free and accessible.

01:57:03.000 Difference of opinion.

01:57:07.000 But they always make the wrong decision.

01:57:09.000 And that's all of you.

01:57:10.000 You all bear some responsibility.

01:57:12.000 A majority of you, right?

01:57:13.000 A lot of you didn't.

01:57:14.000 But let's look up, for example, in Barack Obama, right, in 2012.

01:57:17.000 That was an election that was pretty important.

01:57:19.000 The Obamacare rollout, the Affordable Care Act, wildly unpopular.

01:57:24.000 Wildly unpopular.

01:57:26.000 Democrats weren't happy with it because a public option wasn't included.

01:57:29.000 Of course, Republicans were always opposed to it.

01:57:31.000 Now it was effectively a giant kickback to insurance companies, which we now know.

01:57:36.000 Rollout was difficult.

01:57:37.000 Had to be extended.

01:57:39.000 Premiums going up.

01:57:40.000 Deductibles going up.

01:57:42.000 Prices skyrocketing.

01:57:43.000 It was wildly unpopular.

01:57:44.000 That was the weak point on Barack Obama.

01:57:47.000 Think of it as a video game.

01:57:48.000 That's the flashing weak spot you're supposed to hit with your laser gun.

01:57:54.000 So, who did Republicans nominate?

01:57:57.000 They nominated the only other single person in the history of mankind, not the United States, all over the world, to have signed a health care mandate into law.

01:58:08.000 The only person to have not done that, the only person to have done that not named Barack Obama, is Mitt Romney.

01:58:16.000 That's who Republicans ran.

01:58:18.000 And so he ran like a sackless monkey, not willing to attack Barack Obama on the one weak point that could have won the election.

01:58:27.000 That's a huge reason why Republicans lost.

01:58:30.000 That's the pivotal point.

01:58:32.000 Here in this election, there is one really significant weak spot with Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:58:36.000 She has the second highest unfavorability rating of any presidential candidate In the history of American politics.

01:58:45.000 Second highest ever.

01:58:46.000 That's her weak spot. 0.99

01:58:47.000 Because she's a flip-flopper, she's inconsistent, and people think she's a liar. 1.00

01:58:47.000 Why? 1.00

01:58:50.000 They think she's untrustworthy. 0.99

01:58:51.000 Second highest unapproval rating ever.

01:58:53.000 So, all Republicans need to do is nominate someone with even a moderately high unfavorability rating.

01:58:59.000 Just an average one.

01:59:01.000 What do Republicans, as it looks they're going to do, they find and will nominate the single person with the number one highest unfavorability rating of any candidate of all time in Donald Trump.

01:59:14.000 There are so many people out there right now with Hillary Clinton, with her unfavorability rating, they are looking to vote for anyone not named Hillary Clinton.

01:59:24.000 The only person who they will also put on that list, and more, is Donald Trump.

01:59:33.000 Now, Republicans, you deserve to lose. 0.72

01:59:36.000 You deserve to lose.

01:59:37.000 Now, we're talking about this.

01:59:38.000 Let's get into the numbers, and then we'll get into the principles of it, okay?

01:59:41.000 I'm not a political pundit necessarily, but I watch all of these people, and they talk, and they get it so wrong.

01:59:47.000 Okay.

01:59:48.000 The last election, Romney-Obama was determined by about 5 million votes, 60 million to 65 million.

01:59:53.000 That's what determined that election.

01:59:54.000 If you listen to really conservative sources like Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin, they estimate as high as 4 to 5 million registered Republican conservative voters Did not come out to vote for Romney, who even voted for McCain.

02:00:07.000 So they say four million less than McCain.

02:00:10.000 Skeptics say it's only about one to one and a half million.

02:00:12.000 Let's split the difference and be fair.

02:00:13.000 Let's call it three million.

02:00:15.000 Three million less Republicans voted for Romney than McCain because they didn't think he was conservative enough.

02:00:22.000 What killed Romney was not the independent vote.

02:00:25.000 What killed Romney was that cavalry never came over the hill.

02:00:29.000 Now, if you look at the numbers that we have, Donald Trump is the one candidate who will have the highest number of Republicans who guaranteed will not vote for him.

02:00:41.000 He's that candidate.

02:00:43.000 He will have far more Republicans who will not come out and vote for him.

02:00:46.000 So he's starting at, let's conservatively say, a deficit of $10 million when compared to McCain or Romney.

02:00:53.000 He's starting at that deficit.

02:00:55.000 So people are saying he's going to get so many moderates, he's going to get so many Democrats.

02:00:59.000 You believe that the guy who's going into a general with a deficit of millions, based on the polls that we have available to us, you can't throw them out when they're not convenient, in a general election, With the single highest unfavorability rating in a general election of all time is somehow going to magically gain more Democrats and more independents than any candidate running since before Reagan.

02:01:24.000 That's your gamble?

02:01:26.000 It's a high-risk gamble.

02:01:28.000 That's not inherently wrong.

02:01:31.000 Right?

02:01:32.000 A high-risk gamble you make.

02:01:34.000 Trump knows this.

02:01:34.000 Why?

02:01:35.000 Art of the deal.

02:01:36.000 If it's a high reward.

02:01:37.000 Right?

02:01:39.000 Okay, that's a high-risk gamble.

02:01:41.000 It's the highest-risk gamble Republicans can make.

02:01:43.000 What's the reward?

02:01:44.000 You get a borderline lifelong Democrat, pro-choice, anti-Second Amendment, anti-free speech, four bankruptcies, serial admitted philanderer, divorcee, who didn't have an opinion on partial birth abortion, guns, illegal immigration, who was flip-flopped on that, until he decided to run for election.

02:02:06.000 That's your reward.

02:02:07.000 Whether he's your guy or not, that's your very, very high-risk reward.

02:02:12.000 And the reason his supporters, the sole redeeming reason, they don't deny that, is it's based on the idea that Donald Trump is a great businessman.

02:02:19.000 So again, we've gone through the numbers.

02:02:21.000 Great businessman.

02:02:24.000 That's his selling point.

02:02:26.000 Okay, let's use the numbers that Trump used himself.

02:02:29.000 Okay?

02:02:29.000 In 82, he said he was worth $500 million.

02:02:32.000 Of course, he was estimated to be worth about $200 million.

02:02:34.000 He said $500 million.

02:02:35.000 If he'd have taken that money, put it in an S&P index fund, he would be worth today, at the rate of increase that was, I think, about over that course because of the boom in the 80s, over 11%, $20 billion.

02:02:45.000 If he put it in an unmanaged index fund...

02:02:48.000 And never touched it.

02:02:49.000 $20 billion.

02:02:50.000 He claims to be worth $10 billion.

02:02:51.000 That's twice what he claims to be worth.

02:02:53.000 Now, that's what he claims to be worth.

02:02:56.000 Okay?

02:02:57.000 The closest thing we have to a third-party analysis was Deutsche Bank.

02:02:59.000 They put it at $750 million.

02:03:02.000 Forbes has them listed at about $3 billion.

02:03:04.000 Donald Trump varies based on many, many billions depending on the day.

02:03:08.000 This is a guy who inherited anywhere between $40 and $200 million from his father when he got started.

02:03:15.000 Okay?

02:03:16.000 His business would have done better if he'd have done nothing with that money.

02:03:19.000 Also for bankruptcies and left people holding the bag.

02:03:24.000 So you're talking about...

02:03:25.000 By the way, he sued a publication for saying that he was worth $250 million.

02:03:31.000 Twice.

02:03:32.000 Because he sued them for what?

02:03:33.000 $5 billion.

02:03:35.000 Because he said they were lying.

02:03:36.000 Guess what?

02:03:36.000 He lost twice in a court of law.

02:03:39.000 Because the court deemed that the estimation of $250 million...

02:03:39.000 Why?

02:03:46.000 It wasn't proven to be inaccurate by Donald Trump himself.

02:03:49.000 He wasn't able to.

02:03:51.000 So he lost that case twice.

02:03:53.000 So, again, let's recap this.

02:03:55.000 You have somebody who is going into a general with a deficit of Republicans.

02:03:59.000 According to the data, of more than any Republican candidate that we've had in recent memory, probably 10 million, he has the single highest unfavorability rating Of any candidate running in the history of ever, running against Hillary Clinton will somehow magically win over a number of independents and Democrats not seen in decades, who is a serial philandering, lie-about-everything candidate who's never been consistent on a single issue until the last six months, and even knows he's flip-flopped because you believe he's a good businessman.

02:04:29.000 And you believe he's a good businessman because he inherited $200 million from his dad, and it's very likely worth, nearly half a century later, less than a billion dollars.

02:04:40.000 That's your play?

02:04:44.000 And I can see the comments, how many millions do you have?

02:04:48.000 Well, I didn't get $40 million.

02:04:50.000 I didn't get $200 million.

02:04:53.000 But your IRA has outperformed Donald Trump's success.

02:04:59.000 These are using his own numbers, by the way.

02:05:01.000 Again, none of the numbers are consistent.

02:05:03.000 And when it came down to proving in a court of law, he never has.

02:05:06.000 He's worth far less. 0.97

02:05:08.000 So not only is he a liar to his wife, not only is he a liar on policy, not only is he a liar on the debate stage, he lies about the one thing that you think you like him for, which is his money. 0.95

02:05:21.000 By any measurable, objective barometers we have available to us, he's not that good with it. 0.97

02:05:30.000 And you have no reason to believe any of his claims are accurate.

02:05:34.000 Plenty of legal reasons to believe that he's not.

02:05:37.000 I just, that's what it comes down to.

02:05:40.000 I can see people are going to get upset.

02:05:41.000 What is it that irks me?

02:05:43.000 That's what irks me.

02:05:44.000 I don't think it's a smart play.

02:05:45.000 Just like I don't think it was a smart play in 2012 to run the only candidate ever who signed a healthcare mandate into law in Mitt Romney.

02:05:53.000 I caught a lot of flack for saying, oh, oh, we have a weak candidate right now because of Barack Obama and Obamacare, and so we're going to run the billionaire Mormon who signed a healthcare mandate into law in the Massachusetts.

02:06:03.000 The only thing Barack Obama needs to say to Mitt Romney is, you first.

02:06:11.000 And I will tell you, I did work for traditional media.

02:06:13.000 I caught a lot of flack for that.

02:06:15.000 I was never a Romney fan.

02:06:17.000 You want to say I'm establishment?

02:06:19.000 I've never been a Romney fan.

02:06:21.000 In the order.

02:06:22.000 Okay, let's leave it all out on the table right now.

02:06:24.000 People go, who do you support?

02:06:25.000 Listen, I don't endorse candidates.

02:06:26.000 That's not my job.

02:06:27.000 You want to know who I liked?

02:06:28.000 You want to know who I liked personally?

02:06:30.000 Who I liked?

02:06:31.000 Okay.

02:06:32.000 Fiorina, Cruz, Rand, Rubio.

02:06:36.000 In that order.

02:06:39.000 That's probably who I liked.

02:06:41.000 I never hit it.

02:06:42.000 That's who I liked.

02:06:45.000 Okay?

02:06:46.000 Secret out?

02:06:47.000 I'm being honest with you.

02:06:49.000 Who cares?

02:06:50.000 Doesn't matter what I think.

02:06:51.000 Doesn't matter if I endorse somebody.

02:06:52.000 Doesn't help anybody.

02:06:53.000 Who wants to be endorsed by me?

02:06:55.000 People will say, oh, you want to be endorsed?

02:06:56.000 Really?

02:06:57.000 They're going to say you're endorsed by the guy who plays Spot the Tranny with Gavin McGinnis?

02:07:01.000 Come on.

02:07:02.000 This is an entertainment program. 0.81

02:07:04.000 My sidekick is not Gay Jared. 0.99

02:07:06.000 You want us endorsing them for president?

02:07:08.000 But stranger things have happened. 0.99

02:07:09.000 You have Republican nominees talking about penis size. 1.00

02:07:14.000 Hillary Clinton killed a guy! 1.00

02:07:17.000 Allegedly.

02:07:22.000 So, there you go.

02:07:23.000 I've spoken my piece.

02:07:24.000 I just don't think it's very smart.

02:07:25.000 There's obviously the principle issue.

02:07:27.000 But aside from that, what has Donald Trump lied about?

02:07:33.000 Tweet me at S. Crowder.

02:07:33.000 You think I'm wrong?

02:07:34.000 I don't care.

02:07:35.000 If it's Donald Trump, will I vote?

02:07:37.000 No, probably not.

02:07:41.000 Send your letters.

02:07:43.000 Listen, let me give you your affiliates, okay?

02:07:45.000 Our wonderful affiliates, if you're not watching a letterwithcredit.com.

02:07:48.000 Of course, our headquarters, WAM in Detroit, WEZS New Hampshire, WGHC in northern Florida, Patriot Northern Michigan, KLID Missouri, Cone, Alaska.

02:07:56.000 Send your letters to them that you are so offended I made fun of your candidate that I must be taken off the air.

02:08:03.000 I'm going to do it anyway.

02:08:08.000 I just, I just, I don't care anymore.

02:08:11.000 This whole election, I'm at the point where I just, I, it doesn't, there's not enough contrast.

02:08:18.000 And the media loves it.

02:08:19.000 The media loves it.

02:08:20.000 I understand it.

02:08:21.000 Listen, is there a conspiracy that certain members of the media are out to get Trump?

02:08:25.000 No, I think people are people.

02:08:27.000 But I will say there is a hard and fast rule.

02:08:30.000 Not Gay Jared and I know this because we run ladderwithcrowder.com and this show with millions of readers and listeners on a monthly basis.

02:08:37.000 Trump is absolutely fantastic for ratings and for traffic.

02:08:41.000 You can double your traffic right now.

02:08:43.000 If you just title a piece, Trump Drops Epic Bombshell, It's a guarantee you'll do better.

02:08:49.000 It's a lot easier to sell outrage and offense and tell people they should be offended than it is to try and inform them on the issues.

02:08:57.000 I'm not saying every single Trump voter is uninformed.

02:08:59.000 I'm saying there are a lot of people of a vested interest in ratings and traffic to keep those steady.

02:09:05.000 Some of them are in dying mediums.

02:09:08.000 Trump is that last glimmer of light they see before their light goes out.

02:09:14.000 Look at the demographics of the conservative movement.

02:09:16.000 It is not good.

02:09:17.000 It's not pretty.

02:09:18.000 So they'll take every last viewer they can.

02:09:20.000 Stay tuned.

02:09:21.000 Jack!

02:09:40.000 Jack!

02:09:42.000 Don't leave me, Jack!

02:09:44.000 I'll always love you!

02:09:46.000 I'll always love you forever and always!

02:09:49.000 I'll never forget the time we spent!

02:09:52.000 I'll tell the whole world about you!

02:09:55.000 I've never loved anyone!

02:09:58.000 Oh, he's frozen!

02:10:03.000 Bye! Bye!

02:10:04.000 This is Breaking News on Lawler with Crawler.

02:10:19.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

02:10:21.000 We're taking you now to live audio feed of a chip that has been implanted in the Governor Chris Christie's brain.

02:10:30.000 Live now at a Donald Trump rally.

02:10:31.000 We're going to make America great again, folks.

02:10:33.000 We're going to make it great again.

02:10:35.000 And, you know, I watched Hillary... 1.00

02:10:37.000 I wonder why I have to be here.

02:10:43.000 My legs are tired.

02:10:48.000 So I've endorsed Trump.

02:10:52.000 That's happened now.

02:10:55.000 Another thing.

02:10:58.000 That's where I am. 1.00

02:11:02.000 How long am I going to keep this puppet stick up my ass? 1.00

02:11:07.000 For breaking news on Louder with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson. 1.00

02:11:12.000 We'll be right back.

02:11:42.000 All right.

02:11:58.000 I do love that song.

02:11:59.000 I just really hurt my knee.

02:12:00.000 Can you believe that?

02:12:01.000 Jared and I were dancing in the studio.

02:12:03.000 I'm not supposed to move my knee at all.

02:12:06.000 It's in an immobilizer.

02:12:07.000 That song is sketchy.

02:12:07.000 That was so worth it.

02:12:09.000 And it hurts.

02:12:10.000 Like crazy.

02:12:11.000 I'm going to call it worth it.

02:12:12.000 I will speak on your behalf.

02:12:16.000 Oh, I bent it.

02:12:17.000 That was the first bend in my knee since Thursday.

02:12:20.000 And it was alarmingly painful.

02:12:24.000 Oh, so we are wrapping up this program here today.

02:12:27.000 Listen, I've had a lot of fun here.

02:12:31.000 I'm getting all these tweets from people, the ones they see anyway, of course, because Twitter is censoring everybody, asking me to do that endorsement, thinking, you know, your voice carries more weight than you think.

02:12:40.000 No, it really doesn't.

02:12:41.000 And let me tell you why.

02:12:42.000 Listen, here's the deal.

02:12:44.000 If it sounds like I'm pessimistic because I've given up on...

02:12:47.000 I've not given up, but if it sounds like I'm pessimistic because I'm not going to focus on the election so much, it's because there are winning issues.

02:12:54.000 There are big winning issues out there right now, and it's not the Republican-Democrat thing.

02:12:58.000 It really is about freedom versus authoritarianism.

02:13:02.000 We have it up on the site right now.

02:13:06.000 Somewhere here.

02:13:07.000 No, I don't have it up.

02:13:09.000 By the way, Casey, new writer at the site, fantastic.

02:13:12.000 Really, really good.

02:13:14.000 She's so young and she's just so...

02:13:17.000 Women, you know, she even asked me, can women be funny? 1.00

02:13:20.000 She's a new writer we have. 0.98

02:13:21.000 Of course, Courtney is on vacation.

02:13:22.000 Wonderful Courtney.

02:13:23.000 Well deserved.

02:13:24.000 Funny enough...

02:13:26.000 I mean, we have a pretty diverse crew of people who've come in.

02:13:28.000 Most of our writers, our co-writers, have been women at Louder with Crowder, or those who live alternative lifestyles.

02:13:36.000 And women, I find, are really funny, coming up in The Next Generation. 0.68

02:13:41.000 And I think what it is, is they just have a... 0.99

02:13:43.000 Now, I'm not talking about the Amy Schumer, Chelsea Handler, I'm such a whore! 0.99

02:13:46.000 You know, that whole bit where you have about 30 seconds on your stopwatch before they make a joke about being slutty. 0.99

02:13:51.000 Sarah Silverman, cop cops. 0.76

02:13:52.000 Yes. 1.00

02:13:53.000 And then they get really mad when you're like, oh, I'm such a dirty slut! 1.00

02:13:57.000 Oh, you're a dirty slut! 1.00

02:13:58.000 How dare you! 1.00

02:13:59.000 Not talking about that.

02:14:02.000 Courtney and Casey are very, very funny in their commentary.

02:14:07.000 And I think it's just because they've been so free to express their opinions in an open forum.

02:14:13.000 I don't think women tend to gravitate toward comedy clubs. 1.00

02:14:15.000 Every time I went to comedy clubs, it tended to be more men. 0.67

02:14:18.000 Whereas online, if you have a blog, you're going to have a perfect representation of the audience that you can find.

02:14:23.000 Well, that, I mean, we let them vote.

02:14:24.000 I think they've been getting better progressively at the voting.

02:14:28.000 And since we've been letting them speak...

02:14:28.000 At the voting.

02:14:31.000 More freely.

02:14:32.000 They've kind of gotten better at the speaking.

02:14:36.000 I would firmly disagree.

02:14:38.000 Can it get worse?

02:14:40.000 I don't know.

02:14:40.000 Okay, there we go.

02:14:41.000 I do have the story up right now.

02:14:44.000 I don't know if it's sweet.

02:14:44.000 Women...

02:14:45.000 It's one of these European... 1.00

02:14:46.000 A UK company.

02:14:48.000 Community Arts Group coexist.

02:14:49.000 Oh, but the C wants to call it the letters.

02:14:51.000 That's what they always forget.

02:14:52.000 Women are going to get sick leave for menstrual pain. 1.00

02:14:59.000 So it's not about equal pay for equal work, which they already have.

02:15:02.000 It's about more pay for three-quarters of the work.

02:15:07.000 Listen, women, I mean, how do we not see the irony now? 1.00

02:15:10.000 There was a Texas abortion deal. 1.00

02:15:12.000 One thing I was talking about I think is lost on so many women. 1.00

02:15:14.000 You know, the mantra from the leftists, from the Sandra Flukes, from the Sarah Silvermans, is abortion on demand, free, no exceptions.

02:15:24.000 That means taxpayer funded.

02:15:25.000 It's never actually free.

02:15:26.000 Right now, birth control is free.

02:15:28.000 Because they shouldn't be punished for sex.

02:15:31.000 They shouldn't be punished.

02:15:31.000 Right.

02:15:32.000 They should be punished.

02:15:33.000 Tell you what.

02:15:35.000 At one point, the Punisher was not an inappropriate nickname for myself.

02:15:40.000 It wasn't because I was fantastic.

02:15:42.000 I was so bad.

02:15:43.000 That's what was the, it was like, some people got put in the corner. 0.99

02:15:49.000 You go to that corner and you have sex with Steven for 20 minutes. 0.80

02:15:52.000 Oh, this is from your prison stint, right? 0.97

02:15:54.000 Yeah, this is from my prison stint.

02:15:58.000 Where Donald Trump might be going if the Trump U lawsuit sticks.

02:16:01.000 But a minimum security resort.

02:16:03.000 What were we talking about this?

02:16:04.000 We're talking about something.

02:16:06.000 Oh, the feminism. 1.00

02:16:07.000 Yeah. 0.69

02:16:08.000 If you demand that the taxpayer fund your sexual lifestyle, right? 0.99

02:16:12.000 You're demanding that I pay for your sexual lifestyle. 0.98

02:16:15.000 I pay for your birth control pills. 0.99

02:16:17.000 I pay for your abortions. 1.00

02:16:19.000 Guess what you've just made me? 0.99

02:16:22.000 Woman, I'm your pimp. 0.84

02:16:25.000 Pimpin' ain't easy! 0.98

02:16:27.000 Pimpin' ain't easy!

02:16:30.000 You think it's easy for you.

02:16:31.000 You've made the taxpayer your pimp. 0.99

02:16:33.000 And isn't it ironic that women are so weak, these feminists, they can't even afford their own birth control, and they're not even good-looking or charming enough to find a sugar daddy, they have to force an unwilling sugar daddy to fund their sexual lifestyle. 1.00

02:16:51.000 Not only are we pimps for these feminist floozies, we are unwilling pimps. 1.00

02:16:58.000 We are pimps who didn't walk in with a fur coat and a cane. 0.59

02:17:00.000 We walked in and they said, hey, here's a cane and a fur coat. 0.99

02:17:03.000 You're a pimp. 0.98

02:17:03.000 I don't want to be a pimp. 0.98

02:17:04.000 I go to church on Sundays. 0.98

02:17:07.000 Supreme Court voted you're a pimp. 0.99

02:17:08.000 It's kind of like a combination of a slave and a pimp at that point. 0.99

02:17:11.000 Yeah.

02:17:12.000 Wait, I'm a slave?

02:17:14.000 Yeah.

02:17:15.000 Because, I mean, it's not chosen.

02:17:16.000 They just vote and make you the pimp.

02:17:18.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:17:19.000 And so you're kind of the pimp, but you're slave pimps. 0.98

02:17:22.000 You're effectively slave pimp accountants. 1.00

02:17:26.000 For the sexual accoutrements of the feminists. 0.99

02:17:31.000 So this is just a perfect example with the women want to be paid and they want to be off. 1.00

02:17:37.000 Listen, if you're going to take a week off, that's fine.

02:17:39.000 You shouldn't get paid for it.

02:17:41.000 No man expects to get paid for it.

02:17:43.000 Let alone fact men have hormonal cycles too.

02:17:46.000 Right?

02:17:47.000 It's just a different method.

02:17:49.000 We have hormonal cycles.

02:17:50.000 You do.

02:17:52.000 Feminists can't even be expected to control their own bodily secretions. 1.00

02:17:55.000 That's your job to control them.

02:17:58.000 This is where we are, the United States of America.

02:18:01.000 At one point, people would have said, even Democrats, right, would have said, I know this is in the UK, but of course, what happens, it's coming here in a few weeks.

02:18:08.000 You want us to pay for your menstrual cramps? 0.99

02:18:11.000 Here's some Midol in a Hugh Jackman film.

02:18:16.000 Go.

02:18:16.000 Here's some dark chocolate from Trader Joe's.

02:18:18.000 Take care of yourself.

02:18:19.000 Be in the office all the early tomorrow morning.

02:18:22.000 That's what it used to be.

02:18:24.000 No one would have even considered this.

02:18:26.000 This is how far we've gone.

02:18:27.000 The pendulum has gone this far.

02:18:29.000 That's why I'm saying it may be more productive to just let leftists overpush, just let them push it a little bit further, and it's going to swing back.

02:18:39.000 Don't bring it to the center, because then you could lose it forever.

02:18:42.000 Light it with Crowder, here next week.

Louder with Crowder - March 04, 2016

#64 Sexy Time with Tomi Lahren, John Phillips, and GOP | Louder With Crowder

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