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00:35:42.000In the house we all were born, where we had to quarantine.
00:36:11.000All alone and unemployed, heard demands from the CDC.
00:36:20.000So we chose to have some fun With some odd club quarantine And we'll give it all away For the month of shows of three We all live in a COVID quarantine.
00:38:46.000Love you both, but I hate your country, the country of Columbia, aside from coffee and Shakira.
00:38:52.000We have Tim Pool on the show today, and we'll be, I think he's a little bit of inside baseball on some of the bias going on with the COVID stuff on the YouTube.
00:40:24.000Question of the day, before we go on, and I ran this past half-Asian Bill beforehand, and I was like, just so you know, we're gonna kinda take a steaming crap on China.
00:43:47.000You know, gosh, Lord gets a lot of work.
00:43:52.000I told you to switch to Bill when he's last.
00:43:55.000That is the favorite thing I've ever seen in a show, period.
00:44:00.000It was short, it was sweet, much like me.
00:44:05.000We actually, we were like, you know, we could really use a woman's voice for Lord, and we asked Too Cute Maddie, and without explaining the entire context, she was very confused.
00:45:30.000So, finally, in these trying times, by the way, everyone's been affected by this, and we're going to get onto China in a little bit, and then Tim Pool.
00:45:37.000I'm really looking forward to talking with Tim Pool, because there's been some crap going on on social media.
00:45:43.000Everyone's been tested here, even celebrities a little bit, but some of them have been Really helpful.
00:45:48.000For example, Nickelback, they've stepped up with a signed guitar, Nickelback guitar, for charity.
00:45:55.000Though I should be clear, Costco has made it clear they are limiting the guitar to one per customer.
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00:46:12.000🎵Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I'm a funnier🎵 Don't take more than one.
00:46:20.000We all have to look out for each other.
00:47:17.000And by the way, before we move on, we'll actually be including some... We only do live chats, by the way, with people who are Mug Club members on Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
00:47:23.000Next Tuesday, Jean-Guy Tremblay will be live streaming with Daisy Denagla live.
00:49:33.000Let's get, and you're going to have a lot.
00:49:34.000I know, actually, Half-Asian Bill has some context on this.
00:49:36.000Originally, this was titled... Because he's Chinese.
00:49:38.000What a piece of s*** China, but we realized it didn't delineate enough between the Chinese government and the Chinese people, and we've tried to talk about that.
00:49:44.000That being said, there still are some issues that I have outside of the Chinese government to a degree.
00:49:50.000Not a lot, but let's talk about this right now.
00:49:52.000Everything wrong with China, and not just as a part of this pandemic right now, but I think if nothing else, this has sort of lifted the veil for a lot of people to realize, like, hey, As far as international trade goes, as far as the agreements, they're not necessarily our friends.
00:50:06.000It doesn't mean they're necessarily enemies.
00:50:08.000I don't want to be, you should be American by American!
00:50:33.000So, point is, now that I said that, we can dump on China.
00:50:37.000So, listen, Donald Trump has been trying to sound the alarm, particularly as it relates to international trade, on China for quite some time.
00:50:44.000I'd like to have you take a look at the fentanyl that's coming out of China and Mexico.
00:50:49.000Major Chinese drug traffickers forged a strip and they have really put very, very strong clamps on them.
00:51:23.000Now, usually, and I've talked about this, I don't like the idea of tariffs because it's a tax passed on to the consumer.
00:51:29.000However, there is a valid point when you do have countries, and it's no longer equitable, if they are taxing our goods going over, and this happened at one point, I believe, too, with Japan, and there aren't several Japans, but that's just a band.
00:51:51.000But what Japan was doing with motorcycles, and unfortunately we did it with Hondas that were coming in, and it was actually Ronald Reagan who did this.
00:51:59.000I understand it being equitable, but the flip side is a lot of Americans had to buy Harleys.
00:52:03.000And if I'm not mistaken, that was during the AMF days where they didn't work at all.
00:52:07.000So they just didn't have access to good motorcycles.
00:52:09.000But there does need to be a balance of making sure that we aren't competing with slave labor.
00:52:13.000And you have, I mean, you still have relatives.
00:52:15.000Yeah, so I've got some family who are in Hong Kong, and I actually had a cousin who was even born in the United States, worked extensively in China, and what's really interesting is just the different ways in which China has kind of spoken out of both sides of its mouth, right?
00:52:29.000At one point it'll say, Oh no, we're very pro the wet markets.
00:52:36.000But then at the same time, they're touting traditional medicine, which uses the animal products, the wildlife animals from the wet markets.
00:52:43.000And all the while, you have pockets of Chinese citizens and scientists who are saying, Are you kidding me? Why can't we just shut these down and
00:52:51.000I want to move on to wet markets, but I meant more so with trade, right? Because as moral
00:52:54.000libertarians, we agree, like, listen, we shouldn't be just putting a tariff on to
00:52:58.000punish a country. But if they are punishing us, there really isn't a fair international
00:53:03.000trade agreement. And I think and no one, no one, by the way, Bernie Sanders talked about this.
00:53:07.000Hillary Clinton's talked about this a long time ago. I know NAFTA, we can go into Bill Clinton,
00:53:11.000but if you listen to Hillary Clinton's rhetoric, but certainly Bernie Sanders.
00:53:14.000Donald Trump's the first person to do anything as it relates to trade.
00:53:17.000That's not what we're talking about today, but it has sort of fostered an environment with this festering pustule that has become the Chinese Communist government.
00:53:25.000Yeah, and for everybody who was giving Donald Trump a hard time about the tariffs, I get it.
00:53:29.000But what do you do when you have a trading partner like that that refuses to play by any rules?
00:53:33.000That's stealing people's IP as soon as they come into the country and doing whatever they want with it.
00:53:53.000So going back to Bill's point, China this week, they reopened the wet markets that were allegedly the source of all this.
00:54:01.000And by the way, they're still selling bats, dogs, and cats.
00:54:05.000And I want to be clear, and I try to be really careful, by the way, I want to warn you, we're not showing anything graphic as far as videos, but to me it's still disturbing.
00:54:10.000It's really hard for me to do any of the animal stuff.
00:54:12.000So let me describe it for you and then tell you you're not going to see anything other than dogs and cages at the market.
00:54:17.000But I do think it's important to drive this home.
00:54:19.000To understand the sort of severity, I mean, It's tough because I'm trying to make sure the clip isn't that bad.
00:55:17.000You do mean precisely to ask him specifically.
00:55:19.000I think you do, and you're asking the Asian half, so it'll be a good answer.
00:55:23.000So what people have always understood wet markets to be, and what they've always been described as, is the wet refers to the blood.
00:55:29.000People are going to be skinning the animals alive, or butchering them alive, on the street, in front of the customers, and like wet work, a military term, you know, assassinations, that type of thing, it refers to the blood that's involved.
00:55:41.000But now, actually, people are trying to swing the other way to try to to counter the racism of just the facts of the situation of
00:56:33.000And this is important, one really important thing too.
00:56:35.000There are no civilized cultures, none, none outside of Asia that eat dogs.
00:56:40.000I want to be really clear about this, because I understand the eating cats thing, not just because I don't like cats, but cats have not always been domesticated animals to the same degree that dogs have been.
00:56:48.000I understand when people now say, oh, pigs.
00:56:51.000That's wrong, because a lot of people have pigs as pets.
00:57:05.000No other society, outside of Asian societies, eat dogs, except, and I did a lot of research on this, a couple of societies in like the Swiss Alps.
00:57:13.000And these are really, they're basically like tribes.
00:57:29.000But lest you think that these wet markets exist in the countryside because you think, oh, it's got to be removed.
00:57:33.000No, the Wuhan area where these wet markets, it's a 15 million person city center.
00:57:37.000It's like putting it in downtown New York, right?
00:57:40.000It's around everybody that's packed together.
00:57:42.000So it's not like an isolated thing out in the country you can go to.
00:57:45.000Just so you know the numbers, it's tens of thousands of markets.
00:57:49.000At its peak, before they started shutting them all down, which was not long ago, months ago, we're talking about, there were tens of thousands of these markets.
00:57:57.000Not just in the quote-unquote rural provinces, which is a good point, Gerald.
00:58:01.000These are multiple million person cities.
00:58:04.000Even in Shanghai or Beijing or in the suburbs around those towns, they have those wet markets.
00:58:10.000Again, it's not just the idea of a butcher, right?
00:58:13.000We have butchers here and maybe they do live butchering, but it's the proximity of wild animals all together combined with the hygiene and the mixing that creates the huge problem that we have here.
00:58:26.000It's not like a Michael Vick dog fighting ring where you hear about it in the United States and everyone is horrified and the guy basically loses his path to society.
00:58:34.000People walk by a dog being boiled alive there and go, well, that seems about right.
00:59:07.000And those are just the diseases that originated specifically in the wet market.
00:59:10.000So, not all, but many different strains of bird flu, swine flu, they spread in these markets.
00:59:15.000They weren't created necessarily in these markets, but this is where they spread, and they led to repeated outbreaks.
00:59:21.000And I know what people are going to say, and I've read this.
00:59:23.000I don't know where I read this, but they say, well, you know, just because these diseases started there, just like in the United States started Lyme disease.
00:59:29.000There's a big difference between a disease started in a cruel market with a dog boiled alive from a cage and a tick bite that fell from an oak tree.
00:59:46.000I mean, there is a clear difference between something that occurs in nature and something that is repeatedly, year after year, decade after decade, allowed to happen, not just through inaction, but through actually touting these policies that encourage the kind of conditions in which not just one SARS came out, but the current corona is a version of SARS.
01:00:05.000It's not like this hasn't happened before, and the Chinese government has before stepped in and immediately said, we're shutting it all down.
01:00:12.000That's the most important thing to me, right?
01:00:31.000They shut down the wet markets, like right away, everyone shut down the wet market!
01:00:34.000Okay, and then they reopen them so they know that it's happening there.
01:00:39.000And right now it's extra dickish because the pandemic is still spreading across the globe and they are already reopening them.
01:00:47.000Like, can't you wait until the bodies have assumed room temperature in Italy and Spain and the United States before you reopen what you knowingly had created as an incubator to create the proliferation of this disease?
01:02:03.000They would put these animals into these baths, it's almost like this communal bath, to clean them off, and they tested the water, and they just kept reusing it, and reusing it, and reusing it.
01:04:14.000Hey, my Chinese government contact said that you're on some list over there.
01:04:18.000Well I should be by now, but what they're saying is that they actually don't think that there is any evidence that it came from the market, meaning originated there.
01:04:26.000They're saying that the only evidence they have is tissue samples that were being worked on at this Center for Disease Control in China.
01:04:33.000They're saying that the closest Habitat for these bats is over 900 kilometers away, the bats that they say caused it, and were not being sold at the market at the time.
01:04:41.000But they're selling bats now, so I don't know that I buy that.
01:06:36.000But in 2013, Chinese researchers, they created a mutated strain of the bird flu and their attempts to make, this is quote, attempts to make strains in a lab that would, if accidentally released or used for nefarious purposes, pose a potentially global health threat.
01:06:51.000Now, I'm saying, they were just saying that's a possibility.
01:06:53.000They weren't playing it coy like, oh, whoopsie, gates go up.
01:07:41.000So there's always a clip on YouTube, you just don't get the full show.
01:07:44.000Here's another thing that I think is pretty important when we're talking about China, and because the media is not doing it, they're carrying their water.
01:08:50.000They are scrambling to try and dump some of these bad Chinese products that are destroying the chances of taking the coronavirus out or at least containing it.
01:10:02.000They do have a history, by the way, of sometimes, China exporting goods, poisonous toothpaste, toxic children's toys, unsafe tires, all of which had to be recalled.
01:10:12.000Now I want to be really clear, not all Chinese goods are bad, and not all American goods.
01:10:18.000So, and by the way, if there's an American manufacturer out there who can actually create a quality mug for us, we would love to work with you.
01:10:24.000It just has to be at a reasonable rate and decent quality.
01:10:27.000At that time, we could only find American Union made mugs and it was more expensive, so we said we'll bring it in from a company that tests, chemically tests, their products.
01:10:36.000And now we have Americans who are etching it and painting it to create more jobs.
01:10:39.000But if there is an American manufacturer who can make this kind of a mug, we would love to partner with you.
01:10:44.000And if you want a big ol' fat contract amidst this pandemic, there are a lot of new mug clubs sign up, so thank all of you.
01:10:51.000Are you about to say something there, Joe?
01:10:59.000Well, we've talked about that with Harley-Davidson.
01:11:01.000You're not a huge fan of Harley-Davidson.
01:11:03.000You say there's great products from other countries.
01:11:05.000In this case, China just keeps sending us crap kind of repeatedly.
01:11:08.000I don't believe that all American products are the best, especially when you compare, for example, American cars with Japanese cars.
01:11:12.000When you look at the costs that go in for LASIK and dental and unions per retiree, we need to be clear about that.
01:11:17.000But it's also very difficult to make the argument that Americans can compete effectively with a country that employs slave labor when you look at it.
01:11:25.000And again, that's a problem with the Chinese government.
01:11:27.000The problem right here is not with some products being faulty because you can have the same thing in any other country.
01:11:32.000The problem is with the Chinese government recognizing that and sending them out internationally Anyway.
01:11:38.000Yeah, and we're not taking a dump on American products when we say that they're substandard.
01:13:05.000Yeah, I think some people need to defend themselves right now.
01:13:07.000I think people need to rise up, and hopefully the international community, rather than being paralyzed by political correctness, will say, you know what?
01:14:00.000But those people are not creating drugs that are effectively sanctioned or actually subsidized by the government and given tax breaks on exports, as you see in China.
01:15:15.000I knew it was a painkiller, I just didn't know how people were using it.
01:15:17.000And you know what, I will say though, we do have to get going pretty soon.
01:15:19.000Fortunately, President Trump, on all these points, but particularly fentanyl as he pronounced it, he's been pretty consistent and I wish that more people listened on all of these points.
01:15:33.000We've taxed China on $300 billion worth of goods and products being sold into our country.
01:15:41.000The Chinese virus, it comes from China.
01:15:45.000I think he has taken so much crap for calling China out, but somebody had to.
01:15:49.000Somebody finally had to stand up and say, look, this isn't fair, you're not dealing with the rest of the world in a fair way, and you have to be dealt with.
01:15:56.000And I don't know why people can't see how obvious that is.
01:15:59.000The first wave that we're seeing in the last couple of days of people, you know, mainstream media saying, we're going to question the China numbers.
01:16:07.000Oh, maybe we should not necessarily believe the facts that are coming from this communist government.
01:16:12.000In three months from now, every one of them is going to forget that they said, oh, we shouldn't have been hard on China.
01:16:17.000And all of them are going to come back to those facts and say, oh, that's right.
01:16:32.000Why were Washington Post, New York Times, Vox all saying the flu is something you should worry about, the coronavirus is not an issue, don't worry about it.
01:16:40.000Now they're trying to act like it's a left-right thing.
01:16:41.000No, no, no, you guys said not to worry about it because that's At that point, you were parroting the World Health Organization talking points, who, by the way, were parroting the Chinese government talking points.
01:16:49.000Then, all of a sudden, when it was blamed on the United States that we weren't ready because we were trusting information from China, and a Chinese foreign minister who, by the way, was not throttled or censored by Twitter at all, but Laura Ingraham was for saying that the masks were faulty, which is true.
01:17:02.000Actually, no, she was censored because of the chloroquine thing.
01:17:04.000I think I was censored for saying the masks were faulty.
01:17:33.000While we're talking about freedom of the press, you know what?
01:17:35.000It's not exactly communist China here if CNN refuses to run the press briefing and instead runs commentary on the press briefing that you don't get a seat or a press badge.
01:17:46.000How about once you stop parroting communist Chinese talking points, then maybe you get a seat at that table.
01:17:51.000It is remarkable to me that I can't think of any other time in American history, but orange man bad, that we have a president, commander-in-chief, who's going out there addressing the people directly.
01:18:02.000The president of the United States and the media is opting not to run it.
01:18:08.000Instead, running false propaganda that maybe they're not getting from the Chinese government, but it certainly would be congruent with the messages that the Chinese government is trying to put out there right now.
01:18:17.000When you look at reporters retweeting the foreign minister with conspiracy theories, for some reason they're still on there, but Alex Jones is not.
01:18:23.000This is the president, and something else that's remarkable, they go, oh, potentially 100,000 to 220,000 deaths from coronavirus.
01:19:51.000We're not going to be on any committee or international agreement that you take part in.
01:19:55.000So let's start with China and then work our way down so that hopefully we can be the empire we've been accused of being and make the rest of the world the United States of America.
01:25:05.000Yeah, so youtube.com slash timcast IRL, me and my buddy Adam do, it was supposed to be a general interest show, like we talked about movies, we're talking about the new Sonic the Hedgehog movie.
01:25:15.000And then then the apocalypse happened.
01:25:17.000And now there's no news other than Coronavirus.
01:25:19.000And we're sitting here like, dude, I feel you when you were saying you're, you know, you're tired or whatever, however you phrase it, I'm getting so sick of Every front page story is COVID, COVID, COVID.
01:26:11.000The problem is the news media, of course, is all Corona, Corona, Corona, Corona all the time.
01:26:16.000And then so much of it needs to be corrected that a silly late night show like this and now morning show has to spend time on it because we watch CNN for an hour.
01:26:27.000Not one mention of private industry stepping up and making masks.
01:26:30.000Not one mention of them being able to sanitize masks.
01:26:32.000Not one mention of the FDA approved product.
01:26:34.000No, no, I'm sorry Steven, you're wrong.
01:26:37.000They did take time out of their day to insult Mike Lindell for switching his polo production to masks and I...
01:26:45.000I think it was Jim Acosta called him the pillow guy and derided him for... it's like, come on, man.
01:26:50.000Yeah, it upsets me because that's primarily my job.
01:26:53.000I'm supposed to make fun of the pillow rapist guy who put some packing peanuts in a tarp and sold, thrust it upon the American public because Lori Greiner from Shark Tank likes to use Bed Bath & Beyond to sell cheap crap.
01:27:05.000But I appreciate that, gosh, this guy retooled 75% of his factories.
01:27:11.000Not only is that nationally relevant, but isn't it the job of the media and certainly our leaders to not only be truthful, but to try and find the positive amidst a pandemic?
01:27:26.000Yeah, you know, I'm always a little self-critical, too, because I feel like a lot of what I do and a lot of other, you know, I guess, media critics, we're decently negative, too, but it's almost, it's a reaction to the media just misleading and misrepresenting and constantly trying to make us feel like trash.
01:27:42.000So I feel like, you know, to a certain degree, I deserve some blame because then I throw the pies right back.
01:28:10.000That was all of mainstream media up until March, downplaying coronavirus.
01:28:15.000You know that Media Matters ran a smear on Fox News, I believe it was January 28th, saying that they were fear-mongering about the coronavirus in China.
01:28:25.000You had Greg Gutfeld, you had Tucker Carlson, They were raising the red flags very early on, and the media was trashing them for it.
01:28:36.000My favorite story to go to is Washington Post, February 4th.
01:28:40.000The flu is a way bigger threat than coronavirus.
01:28:42.000And there's a meme going around of all of these stories from all these mainstream media companies, where they were saying, the flu is worse.
01:30:06.000The opinion piece in the New York Times, Trump's desperate attempt to distract from his, you know, impeachment, impending impeachment conviction.
01:30:14.000Donald Trump earlier today tried to claim there was a real threat to the American health in a desperate bid to stop the, you know, distract the American public once again, blah, blah, blah.
01:30:23.000And I wonder how much, how much of it is, is this now where they're trying to say that it's a conservative problem and downplaying it just because they want to sort of move on from the impeachment trial and them downplaying it for so long.
01:30:54.000And I'm like, did you read the story about how Tucker Carlson went down to Florida to meet with Trump to tell him this was a serious issue on like February- the beginning of February or whatever?
01:31:03.000It's like, You know, I think everybody was a bit slow on this one, for sure.
01:31:07.000Even I, initially, on the 23rd of January, said I didn't think it was going to be a big deal, and I was wrong.
01:31:11.000And then I started to change my tune when more information came out.
01:31:14.000But I think it's fair to point out everybody was slow on this.
01:31:17.000And at a time when BuzzFeed, Washington Post, and everybody had said it was no big deal, at the very least, I would put a finer point on it, not to disagree with you.
01:31:31.000I would say that everybody was proactively slowed down by the agents that be in government at the CDC and World Health Organization because they said this wasn't something to worry about.
01:32:03.000I agree with you, and then I say, but you know what?
01:32:05.000I'll still give 90% of the blame to China, or more.
01:32:08.000They lied, they downplayed this, they withheld information, and the World Health Organization was just ponying up and pushing their propaganda.
01:32:14.000Like that video of the doctor shutting the Skype off when he gets asked about Taiwan, it's despicable.
01:32:19.000Can you explain for people who don't know, since you're a quarter Asian, my lawyers talked about this, for people who don't understand the sort of rivalry, I guess you would say, the history between Taiwan and China.
01:32:29.000I mean, it makes Argentina-Brazil soccer pale in comparison.
01:32:33.000So the fact that, it's one of two things.
01:32:36.000The World Health Organization is either so tone deaf they have no idea as to what it is you're about to educate us on with Taiwan and China, or they proactively try to hold Taiwan away from the talks and conversation.
01:32:50.000Well, I can't give you the full history.
01:32:51.000I'm not, you know, a Taiwanese scholar or anything, but essentially Taiwan... You're a quarter Asian.
01:33:05.000There's been a major international conflict.
01:33:07.000So, when Hong Kong, a Hong Kong reporter asked the doctor from the World Health Organization, how does he view, you know, Taiwanese membership into the World Health Organization, he just ignores her entirely.
01:33:18.000This is completely towing the line for China.
01:33:27.000And people in Hong Kong recognize this as well.
01:33:29.000So it's similar to like the South China Sea.
01:33:32.000If you are a pro-China shill, you'll be like, that's China, and you'll put it in your movies, and you'll do what they do, you know, the NBA players.
01:33:39.000And if you're not pro-China, and oppose the horrifying things they do to the Uighur Muslims in the camps, and the repression in Hong Kong, you'll easily point out the people of Taiwan want nothing to do with them.
01:33:50.000Yeah, the World Health Organization is towing the line, it would seem.
01:33:55.000Exactly, and the silver lining is here, when you look at the Young Turks, and you look at all these leftists, and I know that you're more left on the idea of some sort of socialized health care plan, or more so, or universal, some component to it.
01:34:08.000I don't want to misrepresent you, but I know we differ on that.
01:34:10.000However, the argument has always been made that, well, actually, we have worse health care, we're ranked 36.
01:34:15.000Well, we're ranked right next to Slovenia, and we are, you know who's ranked number two?
01:34:20.000So right now that ranking system, which is based primarily on subjective polling, are you satisfied with your health care from the World Health Organization, is no longer valid.
01:34:38.000So hopefully people are at least opening their eyes now going, wait, hold on a second.
01:34:42.000Yeah, the CDC and FDA really were slow and mucked this up.
01:34:46.000In private industry, even the MyPillow rapist-looking guy is stepping in to pick up their slack.
01:34:51.000Here's something I want to talk with you about, though, Tim, because you know this probably better than anybody, and I'm not just blowing smoke, the media bias and the algorithms, obviously, that happen across social media.
01:35:02.000A big one of these, obviously, was Laura Ingraham.
01:35:05.000She put out a tweet talking about chloroquine, I believe, if I'm not mistaken.
01:35:30.000And I know there's a little bit more nuance there, and I want you to describe Is there a worry here that the people who are inputting these algorithms, there's so much selection bias before the algorithms go out to, uh, you know, to go out to piranha, piranhas.
01:35:44.000I think we're facing, it's going to, it's, we're going to see our civil liberties hit really, really hard because of this.
01:35:51.000To talk specifically about the Laura Ingraham thing, she said that there was a doctor in Lenox Hill that was using it, and I believe that was incorrect.
01:36:00.000I couldn't find anything to verify that.
01:36:01.000There had been several statements from a doctor in Lenox Hill that was touting the potential for it in previous studies.
01:36:07.000From what I understand, he was a practicing physician who had something like admission privileges.
01:36:14.000In other words, he wasn't a full-time staff at Lenox Hill, but he did work at Lenox Hill in some capacity.
01:37:28.000And, and we're seeing major corporations justify Censoring people on social media like Laura Ingraham and the President of Brazil without question.
01:37:36.000You know, they say, we'll label it misleading.
01:38:07.000But if it counters their narrative or goes against their machine, So what we're seeing now is... Can you hold that thought one second here?
01:38:15.000And I really appreciate bringing that up.
01:38:16.000And yeah, I am familiar, I think, with Kyle Kalinske.
01:38:18.000He was the one who didn't want to debate a long time ago when we were a much smaller channel.
01:38:22.000But hopefully, listen, I appreciate that I think someone like him and I would disagree, but he's being straightforward about this.
01:38:27.000And hopefully he never uses the World Health Care Organization's rankings again or that Commonwealth study.
01:39:04.000Essentially, we're seeing, for one, major corporations are justifying taking things down.
01:39:10.000Kara Swisher for the New York Times writes this op-ed saying Fox News is dangerous, you know, campaign.
01:39:15.000And it's scary to me that there are people who will read this not realizing that it was the Washington Post, USA Today, and all these other news outlets that were saying the exact same thing.
01:39:57.000They were complicit in parroting the Qaikom line, right, that we have it contained, it's taken care of, don't worry about it.
01:40:05.000So when that was what they were saying, the media went out and said, it's fine, don't worry about it, like you say from Washington Post.
01:40:10.000Then, when the Chinese government said, actually, we have it contained, and it may have come from the American government, and it's your fault, guess what?
01:40:29.000Twitter thinks it's unacceptable that Laura Ingraham put out a tweet about hydroxychloroquine, but they find it acceptable that a Chinese official tweeted several times that it was the U.S.
01:40:41.000Yeah, and he was also, by the way, editing clips out of context, where it was some, I don't have it in front of me, there was some kind of a Senate hearing, I don't remember, but they were interviewing doctors, and the doctor was saying that, yes, there were likely some coronavirus Cases before March.
01:41:15.000Let's use everything that offends everybody here.
01:41:18.000We noticed that nothing we put up that related to coronavirus was getting any plays for the first week.
01:41:23.000I mean, about less than a tenth of every other video that we were uploading, you know, in the months prior.
01:41:30.000And then all of a sudden, I think maybe last week, it was a and people started saying notifications were back in.
01:41:36.000And did you see any of that with your channel?
01:41:41.000No, they, they, well, I didn't cover this as it was rising throughout February because I was told straight up that it's I wouldn't just be suppressed like what when I tried talking about certain issues related foreign policy I got a hard notification that I was discussed like I did a video about Trump's approval rating and they called it terrorism related and so I was told in no uncertain terms.
01:42:01.000They also attributed they also said that change my mind there was a change my mind male privilege is a myth.
01:42:11.000I think some there's people who work there who try and There's incompetence, there's malice, and then eventually I get these things overturned.
01:42:20.000But when I, so on my second channel, the TimCast News one, I have no problem talking about this other than I have a wall of confirmed demonetizations.
01:42:28.000And the views were, I would say, down like 15 or 20%.
01:42:45.000My flagship channel, the main one where I do the one segment, I tried to do a video on it, and then I get a notification saying, war, conflict, tragedy, terrorism.
01:42:53.000And when that happens, I get maybe like two to three percent of normal viewership.
01:43:42.000Well, to be delicate, I have this thing where they tell me I have to tell them what's in it.
01:43:50.000And so when I made a video about this, on January 23rd, I made a video about this because China was locking things down and it was alarming.
01:43:57.000Not a partisan American politics thing I thought was important.
01:44:12.000They manually review every video I do, no matter what, whether it's monetized or demonetized.
01:44:16.000A week later, they reversed that and gave me a flag striking the video, confirming it demonetized and suppressing it for the next, I think, up until like a week, like three or four days ago.
01:44:34.000We're now going to let you talk about it.
01:44:36.000And I was like, wow, think about how many people could have been warned if you didn't suppress my content.
01:44:40.000And this is a perfect example of the media wins on a technicality in getting Laura Ingraham's tweet taken down because the Lenox Hill doctor is not technically on retainer at Lenox Hill.
01:44:50.000He just has, I think, outpatient privileges.
01:44:54.000But we would say that maybe it would be a better win for the media if they actually educated the American public on a potential very efficient treatment that's been approved by the FDA.
01:45:05.000It's almost like that should be more important for the media to try and focus on.
01:45:32.000It's like, you guys reported this first!
01:45:34.000They report it, Trump repeats it, then they call it a lie.
01:45:36.000I just don't understand how they... Well, they're not getting away with it anymore.
01:45:40.000People are starting to see through this, and Trump's approval rating is going up.
01:45:42.000Well, and I really appreciate, genuinely, people like you are out there who I don't believe you were a Trump voter, or certainly you aren't a Trump occultist, and the fact that you are actually out there being objective.
01:45:52.000When people talk about common ground, I always say, hey, listen, truth is more important than common ground.
01:45:55.000For example, you and I disagree on some issues, but we can find common ground, as we do right now, without That's true though.
01:46:01.000to agree. Final question I wanted to ask you about this because of the the quarter
01:46:05.000Asian which by the way you fool people beautifully like you could go into an
01:46:08.000Abercrombie ad just get yourself a spray tan and claim any ethnicity it's
01:46:13.000wonderful. Right. That's true though. It is true I don't have that. No no no I'll briefly
01:46:18.000mention I was in Egypt and the people there thought I was Egyptian. Sure.
01:46:22.000I go to Mexico, they think I'm Spanish.
01:47:19.000Mr. Poole, in closing, what would you want people to see as a silver lining in all of this?
01:47:25.000Where should they look to, or what do you think is hopeful in this scenario?
01:47:27.000Because a lot of people see it as looking bleak.
01:47:31.000I hate to point out positives in a bleak situation in certain circumstances, but it should be said that I think this will help make us stronger.
01:47:39.000I think we bring manufacturing back, we have better border security, we take very seriously the need for Just community and working together and fighting together.
01:47:49.000We're now saying something incredible.
01:47:50.000We're deprioritizing the BS, you know, in economics, like celebrities are being mocked and ridiculed by, you know, across the board.
01:47:58.000And doctors and nurses, truck drivers are being championed.
01:48:01.000These jobs that are actually important for all of us.
01:48:03.000So, you know what I've been saying is that a lot of these social justice fantasies You know, like people saying it's violence to call me a name.
01:48:12.000It's all now being erased when people realize it was only possible to say those things because you lived in a safety bubble.
01:48:18.000Now that we have a real threat, all of that stuff is starting to disappear because it's not relevant and none of it was true in the first place.
01:48:25.000We'll get people back to responsibility and, you know, independence, individuality, I think, but also I mean, I think that's a silver lining, and I think a very uncomfortable truth is that people are realizing that folks who many Americans thought had their best interests at heart genuinely don't.
01:48:47.000I hate that this is what has been required to wake up some folks, but I think you see
01:48:51.000it pretty clear with the stark contrast in the second Donald Trump is able to speak directly
01:48:57.000to the American people with his briefings, his approval ratings go up, in record time
01:49:02.000by the way, and so immediately the networks stop airing it.
01:49:05.000To me, most people go, okay, you know what?
01:49:08.000I don't even like the guy, but he still is the president right now.
01:49:11.000When you guys said this is the worst pandemic of our lifetime, we should probably hear from the president and, of course, his cabinet and medical specialists who are up there.
01:49:20.000Did you see that Rose Garden interaction where, I think it was a CNN journalist, says, you said I want to be appreciated and then not to call people, and Trump says read the whole quote.
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01:57:28.000I was wondering, when people talk about the political division, They're not really complaining about political division, because that has existed always, pretty much.
01:57:38.000You can go back and watch films from the 50s, 60s, 70s, where they say, oh, Republican, Democrat, they kind of rib each other.
01:57:44.000People have divided along ideological lines since the beginning of time.
01:57:48.000In the United States, Republican, Democrat, since we have a two-party system, that's kind of an important way, because you're signing on to a platform.
01:57:55.000That being said, You can find common ground without meeting in the middle.
01:58:01.000That's something that I think people get wrong.
01:58:02.000It doesn't mean that, oh, we're going to compromise and meet in the middle.
01:58:28.000In other words, the idea of freedom over the individual, freedom of the individual, sorry,
01:58:33.000over the collective, or the idea that, for example, families will look out for themselves
01:58:39.000before they look out for some foreign country or entity.
01:58:42.000Or the idea that a country that allows people to be free and ended slavery, that's a better thing than a country that still employs slavery, because not all moral outlooks on the world are equivalent.
01:58:53.000These are moral throughlines that Democrats and Republicans at one point shared, even though they disagreed wildly on tax policy, foreign policy, and even abortion.
01:59:08.000Because the basis of finding common ground, and it can be the only basis, it has to be founded on truth.
01:59:16.000You have to come to some kind of agreement as to what the truth is.
01:59:21.000And that's not what's happening right now.
01:59:23.000That's why you have a media that refuses to run press conferences, and then cherry-pick information from those press conferences, and then present it.
01:59:36.000They're saying that Donald Trump is running press conferences to try and downplay coronavirus, and then they cite the 100,000 to 200,000 deaths from Birx, and they got that number from the press conference!
01:59:49.000When Donald Trump said, okay, doctor, you want to go ahead and tell them?
01:59:51.000And then they go, Donald Trump doesn't want to acknowledge this.
02:00:14.000When that happens, when you're going to war, and I've heard people describe this as a war against an invisible adversary, when you're going into battle, you do need to recognize the victories.
02:01:14.000We, meaning Americans, and I mean even Bernie voters, Americans who actually believe in the idea and concept of the United States of America.
02:01:35.000We can all find a silver lining there together in common ground, in the idea that we're making progress, in the idea that the mortality rates are going down as we increase testing, as we increase efficiency of testing, as we hopefully have more private industry step up, as we're able to use more masks, as we're able to sanitize more masks.
02:01:53.000We can find common ground on that because there's common ground on a silver lining which is the truth.
02:02:04.000If the silver lining is a lie, it's meaningless.
02:02:08.000And unfortunately, right now, the silver lining that we have in the media, who should be looking out for the best interest of the American public, right?
02:02:17.000The idea of, just the facts, that's the slogan from CNN, just the facts.
02:02:20.000Well, just the facts would mean that you're looking out for the best interest of the American public.
02:02:23.000That you want them to be able to make an informed decision.
02:02:26.000But the truth is, the silver lining that they are looking for right now is a way to blame it on Republicans and the president after Russia and an impeachment didn't work and after parroting the communist Chinese government line verbatim didn't work.
02:02:42.000So the silver lining that we're looking for as Americans is how are we going to come out of this?
02:02:55.000Okay, here's some productive measures that we can take.
02:02:58.000At that exact same time, the people we can't find common ground with, those in charge of the media entertainment industrial complex, are going, where's the silver lining here?
02:03:05.000How do we blame Republicans and Trump and Christians?