Louder with Crowder - #66 Mike Ward, Lauren Southern, and Kasich Sucks | Louder With Crowder

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00:01:00.000 I am your host, Stephen Kreider.

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00:01:14.000 Okay, so everyone draw your own conclusions.

00:01:16.000 We have a lot to get to today.

00:01:18.000 We have three great guests.

00:01:21.000 Mike Ward, who actually has been put before Human Rights Tribunal for telling an offensive joke in Canada.

00:01:26.000 He'll be here to talk about that.

00:01:28.000 And I'm going to convert him.

00:01:30.000 This is the world we live in.

00:01:31.000 This is the world we live in.

00:01:33.000 Is this real life?

00:01:34.000 Is this real life?

00:01:35.000 We'll have our finger at the censorship button ready.

00:01:37.000 Gosh.

00:01:38.000 And I'm going to convert him into a conservative on air.

00:01:40.000 Or maybe he's already a conservative at this point.

00:01:42.000 In Quebec, there are no conservatives.

00:01:43.000 There are liberals and liberal separatists.

00:01:45.000 Then we have Lauren Southern, who is, of course, our friend.

00:01:47.000 Another Canadian, but she made news because she was attacked by feminists who poured a bodily fluid on her in protest. 1.00

00:01:56.000 They will do that.

00:01:58.000 It's kind of their calling card. 1.00

00:01:59.000 They're the white bandits. 0.97

00:02:02.000 And then, of course, we have Courtney Kirchhoff, our very own. 0.97

00:02:04.000 She wrote a column this week.

00:02:06.000 Not Canadian. 1.00

00:02:07.000 Fun fact.

00:02:07.000 Not Canadian.

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00:02:08.000 Not Canadian at all. 1.00

00:02:10.000 And wrote a column about why you cannot be a man in 2016 and vote Bernie Sanders.

00:02:14.000 I wrote one a while back from the male perspective, and she wrote it from the female perspective.

00:02:19.000 So it turned out really well.

00:02:21.000 So full show for you, but this week, obviously, a lot has been going on.

00:02:27.000 Ohio's the big talk.

00:02:29.000 Gosh, what a mess.

00:02:30.000 This whole thing is a mess.

00:02:31.000 The whole thing is just...

00:02:32.000 I just feel sick.

00:02:35.000 You hit that point and you're just done.

00:02:38.000 You think it's going to get better.

00:02:39.000 You think, oh, it's good to turn around.

00:02:41.000 But then the reality show takes a new plot twist.

00:02:44.000 It's like when you're so hungry.

00:02:46.000 The election right now for conservatives.

00:02:48.000 You're so hungry.

00:02:49.000 Hungry.

00:02:51.000 You're so hungry you go to a restaurant and then nothing looks good on the menu.

00:02:55.000 That's kind of where I am.

00:02:56.000 I've been there.

00:02:57.000 I'm just like, okay.

00:02:59.000 All right.

00:03:00.000 The truth is, here's something I just thought about today.

00:03:03.000 I don't know if many people have realized this.

00:03:04.000 This is the first election I can think of.

00:03:06.000 Maybe if you go back to William McKinley or someone who we don't really know about as far as the elections.

00:03:12.000 This is the first election where both of them could possibly be rendered ineligible for criminal activity.

00:03:18.000 If it's Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump, you have Hillary Clinton, right? 0.97

00:03:21.000 They just talked about a big witness, if the FBI indicts her, on the email server scandal.

00:03:25.000 And Donald Trump has to appear in court over the Trump University scandal.

00:03:29.000 Some respect.

00:03:30.000 These are America's best.

00:03:33.000 This is the finest we have to offer, and we will show some respect.

00:03:37.000 America's best.

00:03:40.000 I mean, Trump has lost suits before.

00:03:42.000 Hillary Clinton hasn't.

00:03:43.000 So if we have a precedent there, Hillary Clinton will probably win, and there's a stronger chance that Trump could probably lose. 1.00

00:03:50.000 Maybe they'll both get through.

00:03:51.000 The point is that that's even looming is insanity.

00:03:54.000 It really is insanity.

00:03:55.000 Can we just pick people who aren't criminals to start?

00:03:59.000 That being said, I still hate Kasich more.

00:04:01.000 I don't know why. 0.96

00:04:03.000 It went solidly from, who the heck are you, to arch enemy number one.

00:04:09.000 It went from, who the heck are you, to he won Ohio. 0.66

00:04:12.000 No! 0.67

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00:04:14.000 No!

00:04:15.000 God, please, no!

00:04:16.000 No!

00:04:17.000 No!

00:04:20.000 John Kasich won Ohio, governor of Ohio.

00:04:23.000 Now, let me be clear, okay?

00:04:24.000 He's in a state that is over...

00:04:26.000 People say, well, it's not really a swing state.

00:04:29.000 It's a blue-collar union state where some of them still vote for handouts and they think a Republican might do better because Democrats have screwed them.

00:04:36.000 That's really what it comes down to.

00:04:37.000 Let's be honest here.

00:04:39.000 If you want to talk about big influence, we've talked about this.

00:04:41.000 Big unions, they have far more money than the evil Koch brothers or big oil they give.

00:04:45.000 And union members in the Midwest, this BS about the Midwest being America's heartland, it's the handout land.

00:04:51.000 It's, well, why don't you make a better car?

00:04:53.000 How about you pay me $132,000 in salary and benefits?

00:04:57.000 We'll go under.

00:04:58.000 That's okay.

00:04:58.000 We'll take a bailout.

00:04:59.000 We'll take a bailout for $500, Alex.

00:05:02.000 There is no heartland to America in the Midwest.

00:05:02.000 So I'm just tired of this.

00:05:05.000 Listen, I'm from Ohio, okay?

00:05:08.000 Can't confirm.

00:05:09.000 Can't confirm.

00:05:09.000 Go on.

00:05:10.000 It's just like I'm tired.

00:05:11.000 Oh, we're working class.

00:05:13.000 Listen, just because you are working in a factory doesn't mean you're more working class than a guy who runs a factory, than a guy who bought it, okay?

00:05:21.000 This idea that there's no American manufacturing is untrue.

00:05:24.000 There's plenty of American manufacturing.

00:05:25.000 It's just not where you want it to be.

00:05:27.000 It's just not in steel anymore.

00:05:29.000 It just may not be.

00:05:30.000 And there's still plenty of coal.

00:05:31.000 Hillary Clinton will, of course, put you out of business. 0.88

00:05:33.000 She promised that.

00:05:34.000 We ran that at the website.

00:05:35.000 Openly promised to put coal workers out of business.

00:05:39.000 So John Kasich wins Ohio.

00:05:41.000 I get it.

00:05:42.000 That's what I got off on a tangent.

00:05:43.000 Better than, you know, he was preceded by a...

00:05:47.000 I don't know how left, but a Democrat, for sure.

00:05:50.000 So, yeah, you'd rather have him there, especially if Hillary Clinton's president.

00:05:53.000 You don't need to oust this guy and have a super far leftist in a swing state like Ohio under a Hillary Clinton president. 1.00

00:05:59.000 People from Ohio, they like him there, too.

00:06:00.000 They want him to stay.

00:06:01.000 He won by like 61% re-election.

00:06:04.000 So, he's good for that state, right?

00:06:07.000 Sure, sure.

00:06:08.000 For the country, not so much.

00:06:10.000 And when he won Ohio...

00:06:13.000 Confetti was falling and fireworks and strippers.

00:06:16.000 I mean, this guy, it was like when you win Mario Kart.

00:06:19.000 That went down in my hometown, by the way, of Berea.

00:06:22.000 Did it?

00:06:22.000 They know how to throw a party.

00:06:23.000 It sounds like an STD. It's a horrible name for a hometown.

00:06:26.000 It's also home of the Browns.

00:06:27.000 Go on.

00:06:28.000 So, John Kasich wins Ohio.

00:06:29.000 Everyone thinks, okay, John Kasich, you've made your point.

00:06:33.000 And then he'll bow out.

00:06:33.000 Right?

00:06:34.000 He gives this victory speech like it's even mathematically possible for him to win.

00:06:39.000 And everyone's watching.

00:06:40.000 You think he's gone?

00:06:41.000 He's not gone!

00:06:41.000 No.

00:06:42.000 That's the whole point!

00:06:44.000 He's never gone!

00:06:46.000 That's John Kasich.

00:06:47.000 John Kasich is the guy...

00:06:49.000 Closing time was a long time ago.

00:06:50.000 Closing time.

00:06:51.000 John Kasich is the guy at a party who won't leave...

00:06:55.000 And he was never invited.

00:06:57.000 No one even wanted John Kasich at that party.

00:06:59.000 Maybe like one person at the party is like, no, no, man, you just gotta give Kasich a chance.

00:07:02.000 He's cool.

00:07:03.000 No, we don't like John.

00:07:04.000 We don't want John Kasich at the party.

00:07:05.000 I told you.

00:07:06.000 No, man, you just gotta give him a chance.

00:07:08.000 And you say no.

00:07:09.000 Everyone's like, no, we don't want him there.

00:07:10.000 But the one guy sneaks him in and you're like, oh, I... John Kasich is here.

00:07:14.000 What happened?

00:07:15.000 What happened?

00:07:15.000 Was that you, Carl?

00:07:16.000 And he's like, yeah, but you just got to get to know him.

00:07:18.000 And we've gotten to know him.

00:07:19.000 We don't like him.

00:07:19.000 We don't want him.

00:07:21.000 Ironically, John Kasich has unified everybody in agreeing that he's a douche. 1.00

00:07:24.000 Everyone agrees that he sucks. 1.00

00:07:26.000 Nobody wants him. 0.99

00:07:27.000 And it's not even that they hate him, but here's what bothers me about John Kasich.

00:07:29.000 And I was talking about this on Glenn Beck's show today.

00:07:32.000 I know.

00:07:33.000 Hold your hate mail.

00:07:34.000 I have friends who are liberal, too.

00:07:39.000 John Kasich does this whole, I'm not going to take the low road to the highest office in the land.

00:07:45.000 You know, that's his quote.

00:07:47.000 What?

00:07:48.000 Your only path to any kind of victory is through screwing the voters with a technicality at the Republican convention.

00:07:57.000 There is no more greasy, underhanded low road than that.

00:08:01.000 It's mathematically impossible.

00:08:03.000 He can't win 112% of the delegates remaining.

00:08:08.000 I mean, no, you know, listen, I'm an underdog story, Rocky.

00:08:08.000 I don't know.

00:08:12.000 No, you're the idiot story. 1.00

00:08:14.000 You're I am Sam. 1.00

00:08:16.000 Okay?

00:08:17.000 Just get out.

00:08:20.000 Well, yeah, you know, it's funny because I found myself in a group of people, like many, who were like thinking, ah, we just gotta, if only Trump can't win both Florida and Ohio.

00:08:29.000 As someone who doesn't want Trump, who doesn't think he's a good candidate, doesn't really reflect the majority of Republicans out there, we don't want him to win.

00:08:35.000 And then as soon as I thought about that, it dawned on me Tuesday night.

00:08:39.000 I'm like, ah, Kasich won Ohio!

00:08:43.000 He's never going to leave now.

00:08:44.000 He's never going to leave.

00:08:45.000 If he went off the back, really, let's be honest, we'll be on crew supporters.

00:08:49.000 So, I mean, there's that.

00:08:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:08:50.000 No, I think if Kasich drops out, half would go drunk.

00:08:53.000 Yeah.

00:08:53.000 Make it rain.

00:08:54.000 I'm going to make it rain with confetti when I win Ohio.

00:08:54.000 Make it rain.

00:08:58.000 You think the guy went to the moon with Lance Bass.

00:09:01.000 It's just unreal.

00:09:02.000 This guy thinks it's a victory.

00:09:04.000 I just, it's, you know, he's just a greasy, looks like a seagull in the BP oil spill.

00:09:11.000 You know, he's got those, like, you know, like the kind of down feathers in the head of a baby bird.

00:09:15.000 Someone gave him that haircut.

00:09:16.000 It's a little matted.

00:09:17.000 It's a little matted, but it has, like, that.

00:09:19.000 And, you know, the mama's feeding them, and he's kind of greasy in nature and hunchback, and he's just, like, you know, and he went, Man!

00:09:25.000 Common Core! 0.97

00:09:27.000 My God was a madman! 0.99

00:09:29.000 Man! 1.00

00:09:30.000 That's how I picture him.

00:09:33.000 Listen, I don't wish death upon anybody, and certainly not John Kasich.

00:09:37.000 But I can't say when it happened, when he was showing that...

00:09:41.000 It crossed my mind.

00:09:42.000 Not like I won it.

00:09:43.000 I would never wish death upon anybody.

00:09:45.000 But a part of me was hoping, like, well, maybe that confetti could just be anthrax.

00:09:48.000 Just a little bit, you know?

00:09:50.000 Because it would be self-inflicted.

00:09:52.000 And who am I? As a libertarian, if he wanted to throw anthrax on himself, who am I to tell him that he can't do that?

00:09:56.000 That's his body.

00:09:57.000 It's his prerogative.

00:09:57.000 That's his choice.

00:09:59.000 So that's John Kasich right now.

00:10:01.000 And I just, I don't know anyone who really wants, I don't, honestly, I don't dislike Kasich.

00:10:05.000 I'm just frustrated with this whole thing.

00:10:06.000 And like we said, I'm not a Trump guy.

00:10:08.000 And I know everyone gets so upset.

00:10:08.000 People know that.

00:10:10.000 But if the GOP, if through, like a contested convention, I can kind of understand if they get there and Trump only has, you know, 40, 45% of the vote and the total other delegates with everyone else is more.

00:10:21.000 If he doesn't even have a majority of the delegates, I understand, okay, putting it in a head-to-head and seeing how it turns out because Trump loses in a head-to-head to anybody, right?

00:10:30.000 There is a problem.

00:10:31.000 There's a system in place.

00:10:32.000 If Trump – you don't want someone getting a nomination with only 30 percent average in states.

00:10:38.000 That's a problem.

00:10:39.000 But – and I've said this.

00:10:40.000 If Trump wins a delegate outright, it has to be Trump.

00:10:43.000 It has to be.

00:10:45.000 And if he doesn't and they trot out Kasich or Romney – Or Paul Ryan, like we're hearing?

00:10:51.000 At that point, I will relieve myself on the ashes of the GOP. Okay?

00:10:57.000 So Trump supporters who get mad appreciate that consistency.

00:11:00.000 We'll be like the feminists with Lauren Southern. 1.00

00:11:04.000 We're putting out that fire.

00:11:08.000 With bodily fluids.

00:11:09.000 Because I do not want to see that kind of a screw job like you see with the Democratic Party.

00:11:15.000 And that's what John Kasich is hoping for.

00:11:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:17.000 And that really, really bothers me.

00:11:20.000 Like, it's one thing if you, you know, if it were Ted Cruz and Donald Trump and they're neck and neck and it goes to convention and then, okay, I understand.

00:11:24.000 But that's not it.

00:11:25.000 John Kasich has no mathematical chance to.

00:11:28.000 When people talk about career politicians, you want to talk about establishment, let's talk about John Boehner, let's talk about Mitch McConnell, let's talk about John Kasich.

00:11:35.000 These are people who are almost lifetime politicians who have clearly betrayed their voting constituency.

00:11:40.000 But let's define establishment.

00:11:43.000 It's their picture right next to it in the dictionary.

00:11:45.000 We'll come back, I'll clear my head, and we'll fight about something else.

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00:12:26.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

00:12:27.000 We take you now to a Republican Party currently underway.

00:12:34.000 Yeah, so I met this girl and she did. 0.95

00:12:35.000 She interned for her.

00:12:36.000 Oh, really?

00:12:37.000 Yeah, at the network. 0.99

00:12:38.000 And she is an absolute monster. 1.00

00:12:40.000 Oh, really? 0.99

00:12:41.000 Yeah, I've heard bad things.

00:12:42.000 Is that Kasich over there?

00:12:44.000 Yeah, that's Kasich.

00:12:45.000 He's coming over.

00:12:46.000 Hey, guys, what a great party.

00:12:49.000 You're doing a great job here with the Republican Party.

00:12:53.000 I brought a case of Zima if anybody wants some.

00:12:56.000 Of course you would bring Zima, John Kasich.

00:12:58.000 Who drank a lot of Zima was my father, who was a mailman.

00:13:03.000 Before I was governor of Ohio.

00:13:05.000 Did anybody even invite him?

00:13:06.000 Nobody ever invites.

00:13:07.000 And boy, I tell you what, he sure liked to party as well.

00:13:11.000 He had quite the reputation around the mail office.

00:13:16.000 We'll keep you updated as the Republican Party progresses after this.

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00:15:52.000 So, speaking of which, we had that ethnic introduction, and we just talked about AIDS and black people.

00:15:56.000 You, someone just tweeted, oh, no, God, no, God, no, not John Kasich.

00:16:01.000 You know, he is unified.

00:16:03.000 Nobody wants him.

00:16:04.000 And the funny thing is, it's not like anybody hates him.

00:16:08.000 He's just, just, just, just...

00:16:11.000 The only people that like him are the people that are so far apathetic.

00:16:15.000 Right.

00:16:16.000 He's a safe...

00:16:18.000 He's a safe kind of like...

00:16:20.000 Not funny, haha, funny, queer. 1.00

00:16:22.000 Well, that too.

00:16:23.000 That too.

00:16:23.000 But he's safe kind of if you want to seem as though you're above the fray.

00:16:26.000 Oh, you know, I kind of like Kasich.

00:16:28.000 And then you want to confuse a Kasich fan?

00:16:30.000 You say, oh, okay, why?

00:16:34.000 So I want to talk about something.

00:16:36.000 Interestingly, Jared made a great point.

00:16:37.000 It ties into an article at louderwithcreder.com this week where a black social justice warrior at BuzzFeed dressed nicely and dressed poorly as a social experiment to prove racism, microaggressions, and he proved the exact opposite of that.

00:16:50.000 So funny.

00:16:52.000 The best part to me is that BuzzFeed still was like, pay this guy a thousand bucks.

00:16:56.000 We have to publish this.

00:16:57.000 Gotta run with it.

00:16:58.000 Just gotta throw it out there.

00:16:59.000 Well, the epic conclusion was when he dressed nicely, people treated him better.

00:17:04.000 He was missing change in the bus.

00:17:07.000 The lady at the dry cleaners or the grocery store said, oh, you're looking great today.

00:17:07.000 They said, that's fine.

00:17:13.000 And people weren't eyeing him.

00:17:14.000 And he's like, when I dressed like a thug, people were, you know, it just shows how, I'm going, hold on a second.

00:17:18.000 Isn't that wonderful, Mr.

00:17:20.000 Black? 0.74

00:17:20.000 I don't remember his name for all intents and purposes. 0.74

00:17:22.000 He's Mr.

00:17:22.000 Black.

00:17:23.000 Black, isn't that wonderful that you put on a blazer and some khakis and you're treated just like the white guy? 0.82

00:17:23.000 Mr. 0.82

00:17:28.000 Here's the thing. 0.74

00:17:29.000 If they hated you because you were black, the skinny tie mod squad suit wouldn't fake them out. 0.65

00:17:35.000 Right?

00:17:36.000 It's not like a T-Rex where it's based on movement.

00:17:38.000 Like, racists, they only see you if you're in sweatpants.

00:17:41.000 Right? 0.99

00:17:42.000 They know you're black. 0.89

00:17:43.000 They just know that you're dressing nicely.

00:17:45.000 Same thing for me if I wear sweatpants into, I don't know, Banana Republic, which is why I don't go to Banana Republic.

00:17:51.000 All I wear is sweatpants, so I don't go to Banana Republic.

00:17:53.000 It's offensive to them, and it's offensive to me being there, because I feel great shame.

00:17:57.000 So, this is what he wrote about.

00:18:00.000 Like, Robert Byrd or David Duke, they don't have an exception for pleated pants, okay? 0.99

00:18:05.000 They hate you because you're black. 0.97

00:18:07.000 So this article went out and everyone's like, oh, how racist this is. 0.75

00:18:09.000 And so we wrote an article, Courtney and I, on how this proved the exact opposite.

00:18:16.000 And it went viral because everyone was just going, well, of course.

00:18:18.000 Of course that's true.

00:18:18.000 And you made a point because we went to the Bernie rally.

00:18:21.000 We did that video.

00:18:22.000 Which, unlike HuffPo, by the way, who wrote a hit piece on a Trump rally with no substantiation, we video recorded the Bernie rally.

00:18:27.000 We can prove it.

00:18:29.000 And Bernie's up there, right?

00:18:30.000 And he's going, you know, one in four African-Americans are...

00:18:33.000 How do we do Bernie?

00:18:34.000 One in four African-Americans are in prison!

00:18:37.000 You know, you're more likely to end up in jail and graduate high school!

00:18:42.000 So he's giving all these stats.

00:18:43.000 You were talking about this.

00:18:44.000 How the left can give all these negative stats on black Americans.

00:18:48.000 Yeah, one in four goes to prison.

00:18:49.000 One in four, you know, leaves their child and...

00:18:53.000 Which are not untrue, but unlike leftists, we understand there's a big problem, a cultural problem, a fatherless problem, a moral problem.

00:19:00.000 They attribute it to race.

00:19:01.000 Go ahead.

00:19:02.000 I was just thinking today, after reading that article, piecing it together and thinking, you just told me one in four black people, men, age 18 to 24, whatever, goes to jail.

00:19:14.000 And then you yell at me when I profile a black woman, a black man, thinking I have a 25% chance of getting murdered or mugged right here. 0.96

00:19:23.000 It's a trap! 1.00

00:19:24.000 It's a trap!

00:19:25.000 Exactly!

00:19:26.000 I can't win!

00:19:27.000 Now, you probably wouldn't profile that black guy if he was dressed like the BuzzFeed guy in a jacket, pants, but if you see...

00:19:33.000 Well, I do not, because I heard the stats.

00:19:34.000 Because you heard the stats.

00:19:35.000 Stats didn't say anything about a dress.

00:19:36.000 Well, if it is true, though, if you leave a Democrat convention...

00:19:41.000 If you leave a Bernie Sanders rally, you're probably going to be more racist.

00:19:45.000 Because all you hear about is what these men in prison, black men in prison, all of these drug trafficking offenses, violent crime.

00:19:52.000 Right now, a big problem.

00:19:53.000 The biggest indicator of whether you are successful or not in life that we have currently available in the United States, whether you're successful or not, whether you commit a crime or not, whether you're up in jail, whether you finish high school, whether you get a college degree, whether you start a business, whether you make a living wage, is you have mommy and daddy and are mommy and daddy still married.

00:20:10.000 More importance placed on the daddy.

00:20:13.000 People don't like to hear that.

00:20:14.000 But a father in the house is the biggest indicator that we have. 0.54

00:20:21.000 It's the constant across all of those, and that's a big problem in the black community. 1.00

00:20:24.000 Unfortunately, people who speak out like Bill Cosby, Larry Elder's talked about that, but Bill Cosby's not a great ambassador anymore.

00:20:29.000 But leftists just say black, boom, statement.

00:20:32.000 And yeah, I think it creates more racism.

00:20:35.000 It would have to.

00:20:36.000 I mean, the whole thing has.

00:20:37.000 Look at where we are now.

00:20:39.000 After Barack Obama.

00:20:40.000 Like you said, I think a lot of people with the Trump thing, they just feel like they've been crapped on for seven years, including white people who voted for Barack Obama.

00:20:46.000 They want their Obama is what they want. 0.91

00:20:49.000 They want their hero, their champion, the one who says, screw you to the other side.

00:20:54.000 You know, executive order, executive order.

00:20:56.000 They want their own version of that, which is bad, too.

00:20:59.000 Which is bad, too.

00:21:00.000 That's how, you know, give unto us a king, right?

00:21:02.000 That's the famous story from the Bible.

00:21:05.000 I know we're going to get atheists, libertarians. 0.90

00:21:05.000 God's not real. 0.90

00:21:07.000 That's not the point.

00:21:08.000 Think of it as an Aesop fable.

00:21:10.000 Just think of it as a tortoise and a hare, but with Jesus.

00:21:14.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:21:14.000 I think it's old.

00:21:15.000 Give unto us a king.

00:21:16.000 Which book is that?

00:21:17.000 You've got me.

00:21:18.000 I can't quote verses.

00:21:20.000 Two Corinthians, we'll say.

00:21:21.000 But it is true. 0.90

00:21:22.000 It's a great point that you made.

00:21:24.000 They give you all of these horrifying statistics and then want you to shut off your evolutionary mechanism of generalization.

00:21:33.000 Which is made for self-preservation, right?

00:21:36.000 Oh, giant bright red colors in the wild in that frog.

00:21:39.000 You could probably make a dart out of that thing.

00:21:42.000 I can't imagine being like a detective these days.

00:21:44.000 Can you describe him?

00:21:46.000 I've got tall, black hair, eyes brown, olive-toned.

00:21:57.000 You know, so, anyway, we'll expand on that more afterward.

00:22:00.000 How long do we have until we have to bring in Mike?

00:22:02.000 Ten seconds.

00:22:03.000 Okay, Mike Ward, is that sure?

00:22:04.000 Yep.

00:22:05.000 Mike Ward, after the break here, talking about free speech in Canada.

00:22:07.000 Don't miss it.

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00:23:45.000 All right, I'm glad to bring on our first guest I'm glad to bring on our first guest of the program,

00:24:11.000 So, many of you listening in the United States don't know about this guy, but I grew up on him.

00:24:17.000 So, growing up in French Canada, there's a lot of controversy, actually, and it's a big issue, freedom of speech and comedy.

00:24:23.000 He'll talk about that, but he has an album, Pedophile Jokes and Death Threats, in case you were wondering what you were in for, and you can follow him on Twitter at MikeWardCA.

00:24:32.000 Mike Ward, thanks for being here, brother.

00:24:34.000 Thanks for having me.

00:24:34.000 Hey, Stephen.

00:24:35.000 It's rare that I get someone that we've talked about, that there are a few people who we get on where it's bizarre for me because it's a celebrity.

00:24:42.000 And, you know, I always watched you and Patrick Groux when I was growing up and Louis-José Hood on Music Plus.

00:24:47.000 And back then, though, you didn't do anything in English.

00:24:50.000 So that happened since I've left Montreal.

00:24:53.000 Did you always speak English or did you learn it to expand your comedy?

00:24:56.000 No, I grew up my dad's English.

00:25:00.000 My mom's was French.

00:25:01.000 She's dead now.

00:25:03.000 No problem, you didn't kill her.

00:25:06.000 I just grew up mostly in English.

00:25:11.000 French comedy was easier since there aren't as many comics, so it's kind of easy to become famous.

00:25:19.000 And I was lazy, so I was just a French comic and then started doing shows in, like, 2007.

00:25:25.000 Well, I always wondered, too, with French comedy, like, where do you go?

00:25:28.000 I mean, you have Montreal, Quebec City.

00:25:31.000 Where else is the tour?

00:25:33.000 Is it, like, Victoriaville?

00:25:34.000 Where do you go?

00:25:35.000 What's really weird is, like, my last tour...

00:25:38.000 I sold 135,000 tickets, and I toured for like three years just in Quebec.

00:25:44.000 Wow.

00:25:44.000 Like, there's a really big market for such a little place.

00:25:48.000 Yeah, and it influences to the stand-up for Americans.

00:25:51.000 My stand-up wasn't really joke-telling.

00:25:53.000 And French-Canadians, it's much more kind of one-man show.

00:25:56.000 You know, they bring in a lot of elements.

00:25:58.000 So it had a big influence on what I did up there.

00:26:01.000 I started on Comedy Works.

00:26:02.000 It was, I think, 2005 or 2006.

00:26:06.000 And, man, Montreal is just a hotbed for great comics.

00:26:08.000 Okay, speaking of which, we'll get back to that, but explain for people who don't know, you have been put before Human Rights Tribunal.

00:26:16.000 Basically, your comedy career is in the hands of the courts.

00:26:20.000 Tell everyone how we got to there.

00:26:23.000 Okay.

00:26:23.000 There was a little kid in Quebec who was famous.

00:26:29.000 There was a TV show.

00:26:31.000 It was called Daniel Suivant.

00:26:34.000 It was like Pay It Forward.

00:26:37.000 And this was a little kid that was sick.

00:26:39.000 He was deaf.

00:26:40.000 And his dream was to sing for the Montreal Canadiens, the National Anthem.

00:26:45.000 So they put him on that show.

00:26:47.000 He sang for the Canadiens, got tons of media exposure.

00:26:51.000 And then he sang for the Pope.

00:26:54.000 I don't know if his family wrote the Pope or how he got that game, but he sang for the Pope.

00:27:00.000 What did he sing for the Pope?

00:27:01.000 He's not singing the national anthem, is he?

00:27:03.000 No, he was singing some weird little Christian song.

00:27:08.000 I have no idea what he was singing.

00:27:12.000 Okay.

00:27:14.000 And then I just did a joke like five years later that he wasn't dead yet.

00:27:18.000 Because I thought he was like, you know, a Make-A-Wish kid that was dying.

00:27:22.000 Right.

00:27:23.000 And I did that in my show in front of, you know, adults that had paid.

00:27:30.000 Well, yeah, that's kind of key, you would assume.

00:27:33.000 Yeah, and then his family found out.

00:27:36.000 They called the Human Rights Commission.

00:27:38.000 And then I got a letter saying I owed $80,000 to the kids' family for that joke.

00:27:46.000 Did you pay it?

00:27:47.000 No, no, no.

00:27:48.000 I hired the best lawyer I could get.

00:27:52.000 And it cost me more in legal fees than what...

00:27:56.000 Right now, I've given a little over $80,000 to my lawyer just to not pay.

00:28:02.000 Well, yeah, in principle.

00:28:03.000 Now, what were the consequences if you didn't pay?

00:28:05.000 They might ban you from comedy?

00:28:08.000 What were the kind of conditions?

00:28:10.000 I have no idea.

00:28:11.000 They just wanted money.

00:28:14.000 It was weird during the whole trial.

00:28:18.000 At first, they were talking, okay, in his joke, he said that the little kid didn't die, and I said that he was unkillable, and I tried to kill him, and it didn't work.

00:28:30.000 And then they started talking like I'd actually tried to kill the little kid.

00:28:36.000 They were like, and then Mike Ward said he was going to drown him.

00:28:39.000 And I was like, okay, I'm on trial for drowning a little kid in a joke.

00:28:45.000 It's crazy.

00:28:46.000 Right.

00:28:46.000 Well, we did that once.

00:28:48.000 We had a lot of complaints where we were just talking on the program, and we were talking about Charlie Brown and how bizarre it was that he lost his hair so early.

00:28:56.000 I don't know if it was Jared, but we said, well, a little-known fact, Charlie Brown had progeria.

00:29:00.000 And people got really mad.

00:29:03.000 My friend has ProJury, and everyone's always okay if you make fun of everything until it's their thing.

00:29:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:29:08.000 It's crazy.

00:29:09.000 So this happened, they complained, and was this a court that said, okay, you have a case and just ordered you to pay the fine?

00:29:17.000 What was that process like?

00:29:18.000 Yeah, I got a letter from the human rights people saying I owed them money, so I brought this to my lawyer.

00:29:24.000 Who are the human rights people?

00:29:25.000 What kind of commission or court is this?

00:29:29.000 It's just a bunch of ladies in an apartment, I think. 1.00

00:29:35.000 Is it a Canadian thing?

00:29:36.000 Is it international?

00:29:38.000 This only exists in Canada.

00:29:40.000 And there's a real human rights tribunal in The Hague, in Holland, where they go after a criminal for war crimes and dictators.

00:29:52.000 But in Canada, each province has their own little system.

00:29:57.000 And it's not legal.

00:29:59.000 They sent me a letter saying I owed $80,000.

00:30:02.000 But when I said no, they were like, okay, we're going to take you to court.

00:30:05.000 And that's why we're in court now.

00:30:07.000 So you're still in court.

00:30:08.000 Yeah, well, the trial is over.

00:30:10.000 But what's really weird, I thought when the trial was over, I'd get a decision from the judge.

00:30:16.000 But I'm going to get the answer in like three to six months.

00:30:20.000 Well, everything takes a little bit longer in Canada.

00:30:22.000 Your health care, I mean, even the court process, they have to put on their powdered wigs. 0.99

00:30:28.000 Did they do that when you did this?

00:30:30.000 They didn't have the powdered wigs, but my lawyer had sort of a suit, like he had the bottom part, you know?

00:30:36.000 Right, yeah, yeah.

00:30:38.000 Well, they must have loosened that, because it was law.

00:30:40.000 You had to do the full English court system for a while.

00:30:43.000 Did you know that, NotKJ?

00:30:44.000 Yeah, you'd have judges going in. 0.96

00:30:44.000 No, I did. 0.96

00:30:44.000 I know that. 0.96

00:30:46.000 It'd be like a traffic ticket, and you'd go in, and you'd have some guy looking like George Washington, looking like a white Captain Hook. 0.66

00:30:52.000 I don't want to say it's incentive to go to court, but that's up there on my list.

00:30:56.000 By God, I'm going to speed five over just so I can have my day in court.

00:30:59.000 Yes.

00:31:01.000 Okay, Mike, so a lot of Americans aren't going to believe this.

00:31:05.000 We've written about this at the website, Latter with Crowder.

00:31:07.000 Let me kind of tell you, obviously, this is a more political, cultural show.

00:31:12.000 I'm to the right of Attila the Hun.

00:31:14.000 You know, when I grew up in Canada, people thought it was schtick that I was right-wing.

00:31:19.000 I remember having a discussion, I think it was with Deanne Smith when I started, talking about freedom of speech and how important it was.

00:31:24.000 And she said, well, you know, except for hate speech.

00:31:26.000 And she couldn't believe it when I said, that's not a real thing.

00:31:28.000 Stop saying that.

00:31:29.000 That's not a real thing.

00:31:31.000 Americans don't appreciate that freedom of speech is actually very uniquely... 0.98

00:31:35.000 It's not protected in a lot of other countries.

00:31:37.000 So has this made you rethink some of that and go, oh my god, I didn't realize how little rights I had in this area?

00:31:44.000 I always thought, because, you know, like growing up, I just figured I had the same freedom of speech as in the States.

00:31:52.000 Canadians never really think about that or never really talk about freedom of speech.

00:31:56.000 So, like, the first...

00:31:59.000 Time someone told me, okay, you owe money for this.

00:32:03.000 I was like, that's crazy.

00:32:04.000 He was, like, on television.

00:32:05.000 I just made fun of him.

00:32:07.000 That's like making fun of Justin Bieber.

00:32:09.000 It's like making fun of, you know...

00:32:11.000 Donald Trump.

00:32:12.000 Yeah, and even...

00:32:13.000 Yeah, but it's weird.

00:32:16.000 It's weird.

00:32:17.000 It's made me, like, hate my country.

00:32:20.000 Especially Quebec.

00:32:21.000 Like, I was never, like... 0.97

00:32:25.000 I hate Canada, and I hate Quebec even more. 0.54

00:32:27.000 And if... 1.00

00:32:29.000 If you guys please invade us, I would like America to invade, make Canada its bitch. 1.00

00:32:37.000 It's funny because I've talked about this. 0.99

00:32:38.000 When I grew up, you know, here's the thing.

00:32:40.000 People don't understand.

00:32:41.000 In Canada, there is no conservative.

00:32:41.000 You know this.

00:32:43.000 Quebec, there's no conservative.

00:32:44.000 There's no libertarian.

00:32:45.000 There's liberal and then liberal separatists.

00:32:48.000 You know, that's really the choices you have.

00:32:49.000 And so people hear the word conservative and they think it's a bunch of, you know, old Christians.

00:32:54.000 They don't understand what the Constitution is about.

00:32:57.000 And I always say, I used to have these Canadians in college, professors in the United States' evil empire, and I looked at them and I said, listen, the fact that you are Canada and not the 51st state is proof that that's not the case. 0.95

00:33:09.000 You have this giant land rich in natural resources with virtually no national defense whatsoever when compared to the United States.

00:33:16.000 There's nothing you could do, and they engage in fair trade with you guys.

00:33:20.000 Like, they're clearly not an empire.

00:33:21.000 And it's just, it's one of those things where Canadians, I don't, like you said, I don't think they think about it a lot, People thought I was joking when I said, hate speech isn't a thing.

00:33:31.000 They're like, what about hate crimes?

00:33:32.000 I said, murder doesn't need a footnote.

00:33:33.000 If you kill somebody, that's already a crime.

00:33:36.000 So it seems like there's a real wake-up.

00:33:39.000 Do you feel like this is in the comedy community?

00:33:41.000 Is this happening, or are you in the minority in Canada still?

00:33:44.000 No, I think comics are really starting to be afraid.

00:33:47.000 Because people are like, just...

00:33:50.000 This week with Ang Lee talking about how the...

00:33:55.000 Oh, the Oscars.

00:33:57.000 Oh, sorry about that.

00:33:59.000 Who cares?

00:34:00.000 Like, seriously, who cares?

00:34:02.000 That's one thing that always freaks me out.

00:34:04.000 People go, jokes hurt.

00:34:06.000 But the only way a joke can hurt you is if your life has been too easy.

00:34:10.000 Because if you were kidnapped and, you know, beaten, you wouldn't, you know, escape and go, oh, the most hurtful part was when he made fun of me.

00:34:21.000 Yeah, it was the fact that he didn't really, I don't think he recognized my triggers was upsetting.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, it's funny that you say it.

00:34:30.000 I hope that's the case, but there needs to be a cultural shift in mindset.

00:34:34.000 And now you've got, you know, Pierre Trudeau, who is Mr.

00:34:37.000 Cracking Down on Offensive Speech, who is Mr.

00:34:40.000 Identity Politics.

00:34:41.000 I mean, I remember, literally, when I was a comedy worker.

00:34:42.000 Justin, you mean.

00:34:43.000 Yeah, sorry, but did I say Pierre?

00:34:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:46.000 Same thing about him.

00:34:47.000 We met Pierre one time walking through Montreal, and he was giving someone the finger.

00:34:50.000 Oh, really?

00:34:51.000 Well, that's another thing in Canada.

00:34:52.000 I was like, this guy has no security.

00:34:54.000 I couldn't imagine.

00:34:56.000 Canadians, they don't try and assassinate their prime ministers.

00:34:59.000 Their prime ministers literally get pies in the face, like an Acme cartoon.

00:35:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:04.000 Americans, it's so silly. 1.00

00:35:06.000 I remember I was there in Comedy Works one night, and it was when Harper was elected. 0.98

00:35:11.000 I think when he was first elected.

00:35:12.000 Was that 2005, 2006?

00:35:14.000 Or was that re-election?

00:35:14.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:35:15.000 I think first time was like 2004 or 2005 or something.

00:35:15.000 Okay.

00:35:19.000 Okay.

00:35:20.000 Okay.

00:35:20.000 Well, I was there that night.

00:35:22.000 David Pryde was there.

00:35:24.000 Derek LingVanus was there.

00:35:26.000 Mike Mayo was a friend of mine.

00:35:27.000 And there were a bunch of people.

00:35:28.000 It was just kind of an open mic.

00:35:29.000 You know, Jimbo's Pub.

00:35:30.000 And there were people going up there, and everyone just had their jokes about how much they hated Stephen Harper and how they were so liberal.

00:35:38.000 And I remember it was just assumed.

00:35:39.000 This is default, right?

00:35:40.000 We all agree on this.

00:35:41.000 And I remember thinking, you're destroying your own ability to make a living because...

00:35:47.000 You know, we understood that's the endgame.

00:35:49.000 We've been aware of this on the right for a long time.

00:35:51.000 You know, universities banning Ann Coulter, I think Milo Yiannopoulos.

00:35:55.000 It's very, very...

00:35:56.000 I was kicked out of a school.

00:35:59.000 I don't remember if it was Mariannopoulos or if it was Vanier, one of those, you know, those sage-ups, because I made a Muhammad joke during their cultural fair week, and they said, you're not allowed to come back. 0.96

00:36:12.000 And I was amazed that comedians were supporting this platform.

00:36:16.000 Yeah.

00:36:17.000 What do you think it takes?

00:36:18.000 Is your case getting a lot of press there?

00:36:20.000 And are other comedians taking note?

00:36:22.000 Do you think, like, really? 0.99

00:36:23.000 Or do you think they're still going to go in and pull the lever for people who are going to support this crap? 0.99

00:36:26.000 I think if I win, it'll be like nothing happened. 0.97

00:36:30.000 And if I lose, it's going to scare a lot of people.

00:36:33.000 The thing I have been happy about, though, is people, even people on the left, have been supportive.

00:36:39.000 And generally, free speech is just, people on the left, They think more about people's feelings than they do about our rights and the way that we should be allowed to say what we actually think and not just pretend everyone like each other.

00:36:55.000 But now a lot of comics that are to the left have been really supportive because they realize that if they get rid of me, then whoever is second most offensive to whoever is the judge...

00:37:11.000 They'll go after him next.

00:37:13.000 So you can never get rid of everyone.

00:37:16.000 Right.

00:37:17.000 Well, by God, they can try.

00:37:18.000 Okay.

00:37:19.000 Mike Ward, we have to go to a break.

00:37:20.000 We want to bring you back and talk about this more.

00:37:23.000 Hopefully fix that microphone. 1.00

00:37:25.000 Not good, Jared.

00:37:25.000 What are you doing?

00:37:26.000 Mike Ward, CA, on Twitter.

00:37:29.000 Lotto with Crowder.

00:37:30.000 Stay tuned.

00:37:30.000 Free speech.

00:37:31.000 We'll be right back.

00:38:00.000 This is breaking news on Lawler with Crowler.

00:38:06.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

00:38:08.000 We take you now to a Republican Party currently underway.

00:38:13.000 Hey, you know what's a really fun dance?

00:38:16.000 Is the Macarena.

00:38:18.000 I tell you, I really get a kick out of it.

00:38:20.000 Why is he still here?

00:38:21.000 You know, because it's a dance, but it's also exercise.

00:38:24.000 And we have an obesity problem in America, particularly Ohio.

00:38:29.000 He's always here.

00:38:30.000 No one invites him.

00:38:31.000 He always shows up.

00:38:32.000 And exercise is important.

00:38:33.000 If you want to get a job where I tell you, you'll be waited by the end of the day.

00:38:39.000 My father was a mailman. 1.00

00:38:41.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:38:43.000 We'll keep you updated as the Republican Party progresses after this. 1.00

00:38:48.000 Loser in his, her, or Z's mother's basement watching this on the YouTube live stream. 0.68

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00:39:09.000 Just search Louder with Crowder, find it, subscribe, you get the full show and some exclusive content that you actually won't hear on YouTube, including giveaways, extra commercials, me beating Not Gay Jerry within an inch of his life, but it's okay, he always comes back into work so I can fire him. 0.68

00:39:26.000 So iTunes, SoundCloud, or Podcatcher, get the full show and listen to Louder with Crowder on the go. 0.99

00:39:31.000 If you don't, you're probably a racist rapist. 1.00

00:39:34.000 You're a strange animal. 1.00

00:39:41.000 That's what I know. 1.00

00:39:44.000 But you're a strange animal. 0.93

00:39:49.000 I got to follow. 0.67

00:39:51.000 Oh, I'm in the spiritus.

00:39:56.000 we're back, and I know that the guest knows why that song is significant.

00:40:00.000 You can follow him on Twitter at MikeWardCA.

00:40:03.000 Mike, you know what that's about.

00:40:04.000 Yeah, that's Guern.

00:40:06.000 I used to do a show called Le Gros Show.

00:40:09.000 I was like sort of a guy that really loved the 80s.

00:40:15.000 That's a lot of French Canadians.

00:40:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:40:19.000 Everyone, like your Jagui Treble, actually exists. 0.96

00:40:23.000 Yeah, it's my uncle, Raymond Marseille.

00:40:25.000 Jean-Guy Trablé is actually Raymond Marseille and Eric Leonard combined.

00:40:29.000 And people don't, like, these are real people.

00:40:32.000 But that was actually when I first heard that song, watching your show, and we ended up incorporating it into the bumps.

00:40:39.000 So it's just, it's funny.

00:40:41.000 I was raised on it, and I had no idea that we'd be here now.

00:40:44.000 One thing that was really sort of stuck out at me, Mike...

00:40:47.000 Before the break, you said, yeah, you know, the left, they don't really understand this sort of concept of rights.

00:40:52.000 That is language that when I grew up in Canada, so I grew up from 3 to 18, left at 18, no one would have understood or even used.

00:41:00.000 The paradigm of sort of the left and rights and authoritarianism.

00:41:05.000 So it's surprising to me to hear you say that because no one ever spoke like that.

00:41:11.000 Is that just you, sort of with your own, I guess, awakening?

00:41:15.000 I think yeah, having the government bring me to court That'll do it.

00:41:21.000 That's a good wake-up call.

00:41:23.000 We've started to get sort of, I'm from Quebec City, and for some reason Quebec City is like one of the only right-wing cities in eastern Canada.

00:41:35.000 Really?

00:41:35.000 I think that's why.

00:41:36.000 Yeah.

00:41:37.000 I guess the separatism could kind of, the idea of sovereignty a little bit, could lend itself toward independence, maybe?

00:41:43.000 I don't know.

00:41:45.000 Most of the right, though, in Quebec are anti-separatists.

00:41:49.000 Yeah, sorry about that.

00:41:52.000 I had no idea.

00:41:54.000 So, okay.

00:41:55.000 See, I didn't know that.

00:41:56.000 I had no idea.

00:41:57.000 I mean, you meet a lot of Canadians, and we would talk with them.

00:41:59.000 My aunt just died, so my mom was back up there, and they'd talk with family, like Raymond and Eric, and talk about things, and they'd go, like, oh, yeah, that's it, that's it.

00:42:09.000 You know, Darren, I never thought of it like that.

00:42:11.000 You know, yeah.

00:42:12.000 And they just haven't thought of these things.

00:42:14.000 They hadn't thought of free speech.

00:42:15.000 They hadn't thought of, well, why do you have the Second Amendment in the United States?

00:42:19.000 Big reason is to protect the First Amendment, you know?

00:42:22.000 If they can sue you for $80,000, it's not unheard of for them to simply storm your house and take you to prison for doing something.

00:42:29.000 A lot of them just don't think of it that way.

00:42:33.000 So it's so surprising to me to see you, I guess sort of the term is taking the red pill.

00:42:37.000 Did it take the court to make this happen, or were you sort of shifting before that?

00:42:42.000 No, no, I've always been sort of right-leaning.

00:42:47.000 I'm right-leaning for Quebec, which means I'm about as liberal as Bernie Sanders, basically.

00:42:57.000 But I'm for free speech.

00:42:59.000 And for a lot of things.

00:43:02.000 I'm for small government.

00:43:04.000 I hate having the government tell me how, even like...

00:43:09.000 City, municipal government telling me, okay, my hedge has to be this height.

00:43:15.000 I'm like, it's my land, let me do what I want.

00:43:19.000 Yeah, no, not in Quebec.

00:43:20.000 That's not really the mindset there.

00:43:22.000 It's funny, you mentioned that you had Academy Awards.

00:43:25.000 So this is one, too, where I got a lot of complaints at Mariannopoulos College because I made a bunch of Asian jokes because, as you know, Mariannopoulos is entirely Asian and Jewish.

00:43:32.000 And I've always had a clean show, but pretty politically incorrect.

00:43:38.000 So I was surprised that people would get really offended.

00:43:39.000 You know, they would have Joey Elias before, and you know how he can get, and then mine is clean, but I'm the one who gets the complaints because he made fun of Asians, or he made fun of Muslims.

00:43:49.000 The bit that got me into the Just for Laughs the year I did it was, and I've told this before, but you would understand it more.

00:43:55.000 You were, I think, maybe just doing French comedy at this point because you didn't cross paths.

00:43:59.000 I talked, remember the band Sans Pression?

00:44:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:03.000 A rapper?

00:44:04.000 Yeah, a rap group, sorry.

00:44:05.000 And there were a lot of them.

00:44:06.000 And I remember doing a bit where I was talking about, you know, you have these French-Canadians now.

00:44:10.000 They're using words they've seen in rap videos.

00:44:12.000 I don't even grasp the meaning.

00:44:14.000 And the bit was, Jared, you're going to have to edit this because it's American, but you'll get it.

00:44:18.000 I said, you know, no, no, no, I'll see you later.

00:44:21.000 Okay, it works.

00:44:22.000 Peace.

00:44:23.000 Okay, plus tard. 0.98

00:44:24.000 And people were like, shock and laugh, because everyone had heard a French-Canadian use that, the N-word, because they heard it.

00:44:31.000 Like, you hear sans pression all the time.

00:44:33.000 They would be French, and there would be the F-word, and the N-word were the only English words. 0.90

00:44:39.000 And a lot of complaints.

00:44:41.000 And people were like, you know, we get the most complaints from the stuff you do, even though it's not dirty.

00:44:46.000 And I just thought, this is such a weird time.

00:44:50.000 And I had to leave there with my hair on fire, and it sounds like you're about there.

00:44:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:44:56.000 I'm married right now, but I gotta get a divorce and find an American that'll put up with me. 1.00

00:45:01.000 If there's an American woman that wants to marry a dude that kind of looks like a lesbian, I'm available. 0.97

00:45:08.000 Is your wife French? 0.80

00:45:10.000 My wife is French, yeah. 1.00

00:45:12.000 Oh, okay.

00:45:12.000 Do you speak French more?

00:45:15.000 Yeah, I speak French with my wife, and she uses, what's weird, like, we have a house in Florida, and whenever we go to Florida, she's so used to using the F word, she'll, like, use it, you know, in front of little kids, and I'll have to tell her, you know, don't say that at Disney World.

00:45:31.000 Right, well, yeah, it's a verb in French.

00:45:33.000 People don't understand.

00:45:34.000 It doesn't mean the F word.

00:45:35.000 It can mean, like, something, it can actually mean, like, oh, something's broken.

00:45:39.000 Yeah, yeah, this is, and you add A, and this is weird, and, you know.

00:45:44.000 Yeah, and the way they cuss, too. 1.00

00:45:45.000 Well, not Gay Jerry, but the Jean Guido, he was like, it's just so weird. 0.96

00:45:48.000 I was like, well, a lot of Canadians, even the English Canadians, they add their cuss word at the end of the sentence, because that's how it's structured in French.

00:45:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:55.000 So, it's funny, man.

00:45:57.000 Remember how offended Quebec got when there was the Florida newspaper that said something French-Canadian comes this way was a headline and it was a guy in a Speedo?

00:45:57.000 Florida.

00:46:04.000 Do you remember that?

00:46:05.000 It was like national outrage.

00:46:07.000 And they banned Triumph the Insult Dog.

00:46:10.000 Yeah.

00:46:11.000 I remember as a kid, I was in high school.

00:46:13.000 At this point, I was going like...

00:46:15.000 Of course that's not right.

00:46:16.000 You're banning an insult dog?

00:46:18.000 They're just so sensitive.

00:46:20.000 Do you see that shifting, not only in comedy, across the province, or do you just kind of think it's gone?

00:46:25.000 No, Quebec is really sensitive.

00:46:28.000 Quebec is really, really sensitive.

00:46:30.000 I think Canada's sensitive, but Quebec's the worst for that.

00:46:35.000 And you don't see it getting better?

00:46:37.000 I don't see it getting better.

00:46:40.000 And I think it's getting worse everywhere.

00:46:43.000 I think it's getting worse in the States.

00:46:45.000 I think, you know, something's going to have to happen for, like, everyone to sort of wake up and go, okay, I don't want to live like this.

00:46:56.000 You know, I'm always careful.

00:46:59.000 Okay, I can't say this.

00:47:00.000 I can't say that.

00:47:00.000 We have to go to a break.

00:47:01.000 For you watching, we can do a web extended here for an extra couple of minutes.

00:47:05.000 But lotterwithcreditor.com, Mike Ward, CA, on Twitter.

00:47:09.000 Thank you, Mike.

00:47:10.000 Everybody else stay tuned.

00:47:11.000 We'll be back.

00:47:12.000 We'll be back.

00:47:39.000 And now it's time for your Dating Advice Minute with Bill Cosby.

00:47:45.000 Now this letter comes to me!

00:47:48.000 From Mr.

00:47:50.000 J., that disclosed first name, because sick from Ohio in the United States.

00:47:57.000 He says, Mr.

00:47:58.000 Cosby, I have a problem with my lady who doesn't want to do with him and the problem with me because I do have a hemorrhoid problem where she finds to be off putting an hemorrhoid problem.

00:48:16.000 Okay, Mr.

00:48:17.000 Kasich, I understand where you're coming from.

00:48:20.000 There was a time, you see, when Mr.

00:48:25.000 Cosby himself once battled with the eighth demon.

00:48:29.000 And it is a battle that I tell you can't be won, but it is not without casualties, especially in the boudoir.

00:48:39.000 So what you need to do is sit down with your wife and have a talk about your personal problems. 0.91

00:48:47.000 And when you're having a talk with a woman, you're going to offer her some coffee, but then the coffee's going to be some drug. 0.99

00:48:58.000 That's very important that you put some drugs in the coffee.

00:49:02.000 After about 15 minutes, she's not going to have a problem with the hemorrhoids, and you'll be doing the hip-hop.

00:49:09.000 This has been Your Dating Advice Minute.

00:49:15.000 With Bill Cosby.

00:49:22.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.

00:49:26.000 Politics.

00:49:27.000 Civility?

00:49:28.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

00:49:30.000 Entertainment.

00:49:31.000 I don't like entertainment!

00:49:33.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:49:36.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:49:38.000 You have a very unhealthy body.

00:49:39.000 You should have a horrible body image. 0.97

00:49:41.000 Not a big home improvement market image, right?

00:49:43.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

00:49:46.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal. 0.97

00:49:50.000 You're a strange animal. 0.95

00:49:52.000 That's what I know. 0.99

00:49:53.000 You're getting louder with Crowder. 0.99

00:49:57.000 But you're a strange animal.

00:49:59.000 I get to follow.

00:50:02.000 Oh, I'm in the speedy distance.

00:50:06.000 Alright, we are back in the second hour.

00:50:08.000 Producing with me in studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.95

00:50:12.000 Follow him at NotGayJarred.

00:50:14.000 Of course, if you're listening to this live, you know, you could just be in the middle of a stupor from St.

00:50:20.000 Patrick's Day.

00:50:22.000 Looks like Sean Hannity has an exclusive with Donald Trump in Arizona on Saturday.

00:50:28.000 Well, there's that.

00:50:29.000 So this is breaking, so there you go.

00:50:30.000 There's that.

00:50:31.000 There you go.

00:50:34.000 It's been at least a couple days since I've seen one of them on the TV, so I need to get my fix.

00:50:34.000 It's been a while.

00:50:39.000 I mean, whatever you think about Donald Trump, the guy knows how to play the media pretty easily.

00:50:46.000 Yeah, you know, it's the whole, there is no such thing as bad press, and I think he knows that, and he kind of plays off this idea that, eh, even if they're screaming at him for being a racist, it's still free advertisement and name recognition that he's going to gain from it.

00:50:58.000 And that's the kind of thing that makes me want to support Trump, just because everyone says, oh, you're racist, you know, like HuffPo.

00:51:04.000 You can only call someone that so many times, you're like, alright, okay, you know what, let's go with that.

00:51:07.000 I always want to walk people down the trail when they say, you know, they're anti-Donald Trump.

00:51:11.000 I'm like, oh, do you really know why you're anti-Donald Trump?

00:51:13.000 Or did you just memorize a few HuffPo lines?

00:51:15.000 And they start going down these lines of these HuffPo headlines.

00:51:18.000 I'm like, you forced me to want to defend him now.

00:51:21.000 I don't think Donald Trump is a racist.

00:51:23.000 Now, do I think David Duke is a racist?

00:51:24.000 Yeah.

00:51:25.000 Do I think some people who endorsed him are racist? 0.83

00:51:26.000 Do I think the guy who sucker punched the black guy at the rally is a racist? 0.98

00:51:30.000 Eh, there's a strong chance. 0.97

00:51:31.000 By the way, my Asian friend met DeRay the other day.

00:51:35.000 Really?

00:51:36.000 Yeah.

00:51:36.000 Did he hit on him?

00:51:38.000 No, he said the race... 0.69

00:51:40.000 I asked him how bad the gaydar was going off. 0.94

00:51:43.000 He said, not as bad as the racism dar.

00:51:45.000 That's not a very catchy word.

00:51:47.000 We need to come up with something better.

00:51:48.000 But he said...

00:51:49.000 Because he's running for mayor.

00:51:50.000 And my friend works kind of with...

00:51:52.000 Yeah, he's running for mayor of Baltimore.

00:51:53.000 And my friend kind of works with some people that kind of do that.

00:51:55.000 And he's...

00:51:56.000 First of all, my friend, a good friend of mine, he's not very tall.

00:51:59.000 He's an Asian guy.

00:52:00.000 You don't need to specify.

00:52:01.000 You have no need to kick a guy while he's down.

00:52:03.000 He's Asian.

00:52:04.000 He's Asian.

00:52:05.000 He's got it tough.

00:52:05.000 So he's Asian.

00:52:06.000 He's like 5'4", 5'5".

00:52:08.000 I'm not sure how tall he is.

00:52:10.000 But DeRay's barely taller than him.

00:52:11.000 One second.

00:52:12.000 If you meet a tall Asian... 1.00

00:52:15.000 It requires a follow-up question.

00:52:17.000 This is true.

00:52:18.000 That's how abnormal it is.

00:52:19.000 Think about it.

00:52:19.000 This is true.

00:52:20.000 If you meet a guy who really looks Asian and he's 6'1", you're almost like, oh, so... 1.00

00:52:27.000 Where are your parents from?

00:52:29.000 Japan?

00:52:30.000 And if it's China, you're sitting there in your head, you're only thinking, alright, how can I ask about this without getting in trouble? 0.96

00:52:39.000 So, pituitary tumor?

00:52:42.000 What's going on here?

00:52:43.000 Gigantism? 1.00

00:52:45.000 I don't know.

00:52:47.000 But yeah, you met him the other day, which is pretty funny.

00:52:48.000 So, he's really tiny, DeRay.

00:52:50.000 You can fit him in your...

00:52:51.000 You can fit him in your back pocket and...

00:52:52.000 In your black pocket.

00:52:53.000 In your black pocket.

00:52:56.000 I think we should call it a show.

00:52:57.000 We should just call it a show.

00:52:58.000 Just wrap it up, wrap it up.

00:52:59.000 Fit DeRay in your black pocket.

00:53:01.000 For those listening terrestrially, you may not be aware, DeRay is a very influential Black Lives Matter activist.

00:53:07.000 This is the problem, too, with what we do.

00:53:09.000 You know, obviously we're incredibly grateful to everyone here watching live stream on YouTube or SoundCloud, iTunes, ladderworthcrader.com.

00:53:15.000 We're also syndicated terrestrially where people are older.

00:53:18.000 And we're grateful.

00:53:19.000 We still, of course, want to be talking to all of you.

00:53:22.000 But there really is a disconnect.

00:53:24.000 Where the older folks are just not aware what's going on with you.

00:53:27.000 They go, DeRay?

00:53:28.000 Listen, DeRay is way more important than Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson right now.

00:53:33.000 And they just have no clue.

00:53:34.000 They don't understand there's a whole new generation of social justice, race-baiting hacks who've come up online.

00:53:42.000 You know, Al Sharpton has been seen as a joke by people of our generation ever since he appeared in Lil' Nicky.

00:53:46.000 No one takes him seriously.

00:53:47.000 There's only a few people...

00:53:49.000 Who Beyonce, you know, it's Beyonce millions and millions of followers on Twitter.

00:53:54.000 And there's only a few people she follows, I think maybe eight.

00:53:56.000 DeRay is one of them.

00:53:57.000 DeRay is one of them.

00:53:58.000 And that's kind of like his, you know, part of his climate change. 0.98

00:53:59.000 Well, she's the Liza Minnelli for black gays. 1.00

00:54:02.000 That's true. 0.97

00:54:03.000 And they gave a lot of money to the old Ferguson felons and such. 0.98

00:54:08.000 I just can't imagine DeRay not being a fan of Beyonce.

00:54:11.000 Or King B, as the gays call her. 1.00

00:54:15.000 Queen B. Queen B. Queen B. What did I say?

00:54:18.000 King B. I said King B? Well, jury's still out.

00:54:23.000 I've seen those pictures without makeup.

00:54:24.000 Hey, speaking of racism...

00:54:26.000 We're at that point where everyone who was once declared racist against Barack Obama is now sexist because of Hillary Clinton.

00:54:33.000 I don't know if you heard about this this week.

00:54:34.000 There was a lot of backlash because when Hillary Clinton gave her victory speeches in Ohio and Florida, a few tweets like Howard Kurtz, Joe Scarborough said, Hillary is shouting her speech.

00:54:44.000 She has the floor.

00:54:45.000 A more conversational tone might be better for connecting with folks at home.

00:54:49.000 And Joe Scarborough tweeted, smile, you just had a big night.

00:54:53.000 So women are furious. 1.00

00:54:55.000 Feminists, oh yeah, we never tell men to smile. 1.00

00:55:00.000 Oh, you're doing your toes to smile if you can own us like a woman? 1.00

00:55:03.000 No.

00:55:05.000 Here's the thing, too.

00:55:06.000 Is it a criticism that's only allowed that women know?

00:55:09.000 I tell that to you all the time when you're sitting there and you're like, what's wrong?

00:55:13.000 If you're happy, you forgot to tell your face.

00:55:15.000 You're very sensitive, though.

00:55:16.000 I'm pretty sensitive.

00:55:18.000 Dennis Prager, who's brilliant, talks about how it's your moral obligation to be happy.

00:55:18.000 But it is true.

00:55:23.000 And he makes a brilliant argument for it.

00:55:25.000 I don't think you had to paint that above your doorway coming in, though.

00:55:28.000 That was across the line there.

00:55:30.000 Well, because I need a shot in the arm, too, with that when it happens. 0.66

00:55:34.000 It's easy to get negative. 1.00

00:55:35.000 Yeah, shot in the butt. 0.99

00:55:36.000 It's easy to get negative when you live in this kind of a world we live in, right? 0.99

00:55:41.000 So it's important.

00:55:42.000 And it's not because of your happiness, but because of how it affects everybody around you.

00:55:45.000 Sure.

00:55:46.000 So is this a criticism that's only lobbed at Hillary Clinton?

00:55:49.000 We have this up at ladderwithcredder.com.

00:55:52.000 Along with a Photoshop with some words that we can't say on terrestrial radio.

00:55:57.000 People say it to men too.

00:55:57.000 No.

00:55:59.000 However, is it something that most men would think is more becoming of a woman?

00:56:05.000 Yes.

00:56:06.000 Do men generally like women who are happy?

00:56:09.000 Yes.

00:56:12.000 Is it...

00:56:14.000 For a woman, does it come across as more bitchy for her to be serious and never smiling than a man? 1.00

00:56:19.000 Because for a man, men are often stern.

00:56:19.000 Yeah.

00:56:22.000 Men aren't necessarily smiling.

00:56:23.000 Callie Purina got a lot of those. 0.95

00:56:24.000 She got a lot of the same criticisms.

00:56:25.000 Same criticisms early on.

00:56:27.000 But so is Rick Santorum.

00:56:29.000 He's gotten that a lot, where he just comes across as grumpy, as curmudgeony.

00:56:33.000 That's true.

00:56:34.000 Yeah.

00:56:34.000 A lot of people got weak.

00:56:36.000 Rand Paul.

00:56:37.000 Same thing with Rand Paul.

00:56:39.000 Same thing with Bernie.

00:56:39.000 It's gone around, but the truth is, listen.

00:56:42.000 If you have a man, let's say a woman out there, and your husband says like, hey, hey, why don't you smile? 0.96

00:56:47.000 How about a smile, pussycat? 0.89

00:56:49.000 That's not him being sexist. 0.95

00:56:51.000 It doesn't mean he doesn't like you.

00:56:53.000 He's trying to help you.

00:56:54.000 For example...

00:56:57.000 Do men ever tell women, tuck in your shirt?

00:56:59.000 No.

00:57:00.000 How often has a wife said that to her husband? 0.73

00:57:02.000 How often has a girlfriend said that?

00:57:04.000 Why?

00:57:04.000 Because when a man looks slobby, doesn't tuck in his shirt.

00:57:07.000 I'm using it as an example.

00:57:08.000 There could be something else.

00:57:09.000 Tie your shoes.

00:57:10.000 I don't know.

00:57:10.000 It is less attractive on a man in particular.

00:57:14.000 Men like women who are happy, as a general rule.

00:57:18.000 That's not sexist.

00:57:19.000 So if I like something, and I'm saying, hey, why don't you do this?

00:57:22.000 It would make you more attractive.

00:57:25.000 That's not someone who hates you.

00:57:27.000 That's someone who wants you to do better.

00:57:29.000 That's someone who's trying to improve you.

00:57:31.000 And I think a big part of this, too, feminism is intertwined with the self-esteem generation. 1.00

00:57:35.000 And this is something where my wife and I have gotten into arguments about this.

00:57:38.000 Early on, not so much, but there's still this tendency in women, is the, why can't you just love me the way I am? 1.00

00:57:45.000 Listen, if someone wants to change certain things about you, it doesn't mean they don't love you.

00:57:49.000 It means they love you more.

00:57:51.000 It means there are things they want to improve.

00:57:52.000 It doesn't mean they don't love you for who you are, but there are going to be things they don't like.

00:57:57.000 For some reason, women get upset when you do it with them, but it doesn't count when they tell you they don't like it when you leave your nose hairs in the sink. 1.00

00:58:04.000 But if you say, hey, you know what, maybe you should smile a little more, it's sexist.

00:58:08.000 Now, that being said, I have no problem with sexist attacks towards Hillary. 0.98

00:58:12.000 I think they're funny, and I think they should be done early and often, and will do them.

00:58:16.000 But it was not sexist for someone to tell her to smile.

00:58:19.000 Tweet me at escrader.

00:58:20.000 Do you think it's sexist to tell a woman, hey, you're coming across as off-putting, you're coming across as shrill?

00:58:26.000 Tweet me and let me know.

00:58:28.000 Have you ever run into that with anyone you know?

00:58:31.000 Yeah.

00:58:32.000 I think what's funny about when you go back to the relationship thing is looking at different relationships in your life and realizing which ones define love as, hey, if you love me, you'll accept me for exactly who I am and don't ask another thing of me.

00:58:48.000 I'm much more the guy who said, hey, How could it be better for you?

00:58:52.000 What can I do to change?

00:58:53.000 And that's kind of more of a sign of love to me, is the improvement thing.

00:58:55.000 I don't know if it's a guy and girl thing or not.

00:58:57.000 It's kind of a tendency.

00:58:58.000 I know they always get mad if there's a criticism exclusive to women.

00:59:01.000 Feminists say that's not fair. 1.00

00:59:02.000 But there are plenty of criticisms exclusive to men.

00:59:04.000 Now, that being said, this isn't one of those.

00:59:07.000 Hey, you're coming across as yelling shrill.

00:59:07.000 Right?

00:59:09.000 It would help to smile.

00:59:11.000 This has been lobbed toward men.

00:59:13.000 But there are criticisms that probably only apply to women, that don't apply to men a whole lot.

00:59:17.000 Well, sure.

00:59:17.000 But that doesn't mean it's sexist.

00:59:19.000 It just means it only applies in one situation.

00:59:22.000 Just like recognizing the difference between white and black people is not racist. 0.98

00:59:26.000 David Duke is a racist. 0.91

00:59:26.000 Right? 0.91

00:59:28.000 Someone who hates black people because of the melanin. 0.99

00:59:30.000 Thinks less of that person because of extra white factor. 0.96

00:59:35.000 And I know you'll get people here going, you're a conservative. 0.99

00:59:37.000 Why don't you acknowledge that black people are less intelligent? 1.00

00:59:39.000 All that stuff. 0.98

00:59:40.000 We get these people every now and then who come on.

00:59:41.000 Listen, I'm just not your guy.

00:59:43.000 Now that being said, even if that were true, That's still not an argument.

00:59:47.000 Because you know what?

00:59:47.000 I don't think less of the special needs people who I work with.

00:59:51.000 I don't think of them as less valuable as human beings.

00:59:53.000 You've always treated me pretty well.

00:59:54.000 I've treated you pretty well.

00:59:56.000 I mean, Courtney treats us both very well.

01:00:00.000 This is true.

01:00:01.000 Very tolerant.

01:00:03.000 So not only can you recognize differences, but you can recognize that some races of people might be inferior In certain aspects of humanity. 0.96

01:00:12.000 For example, white people are slower than black people. 0.96

01:00:15.000 Every single world record in speed ever is a black person. 1.00

01:00:17.000 I don't know why, but they've done it.

01:00:20.000 That's not racist.

01:00:21.000 In the same breath, you can say, well, Asians tend to do higher IQ tests than black and white people. 0.85

01:00:25.000 I knew someone who genuinely, genuinely grew up thinking black people had an extra muscle in their leg than white people. 0.99

01:00:31.000 A lot of people think that.

01:00:32.000 They think there's something different in the way their tibia connects.

01:00:35.000 So the point is, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

01:00:41.000 Is Lauren coming on after this?

01:00:44.000 We have one more segment.

01:00:45.000 So it's important, same thing if you're going to talk about establishment.

01:00:48.000 These umbrella terms we use a lot.

01:00:49.000 I think that's what we should do for the next few shows.

01:00:51.000 Let's define these terms that are thrown around.

01:00:53.000 Racism, sexism, establishment, mass shooting.

01:00:57.000 We'll talk about that after the break.

01:00:59.000 If it's not legally defined, it's easy to manipulate.

01:01:02.000 And that's where the left lives.

01:01:04.000 We're going to break.

01:01:05.000 Ladder with Crowder.

01:01:06.000 stay tuned.

01:01:29.000 Ben Carson contemplates endorsing Donald Trump.

01:01:34.000 Mr.

01:01:35.000 Trump, I'm very humbled and grateful that you asked me to endorse you, but I do have a few concerns.

01:01:42.000 Yes, frankly, this is a time to voice him, okay?

01:01:45.000 I know that some of what you've done is in the realm of political theater, like calling me a pedophile and what have you, but my main concern is that you will be consistent with principles.

01:01:58.000 That matter to me as a Christian conservative.

01:02:02.000 Okay, frankly, I'm going to stop you right there.

01:02:04.000 Okay, because truthfully, I will read 2 Corinthians every day, right?

01:02:08.000 Okay, because that's what it's all about.

01:02:10.000 That's the whole thing right there, okay?

01:02:11.000 Every day.

01:02:13.000 I am so Christian.

01:02:15.000 Okay, nobody's more...

01:02:16.000 Frank, there's nobody more Christian than me.

01:02:17.000 I'm the guy.

01:02:19.000 I believe you.

01:02:24.000 This has been Dr.

01:02:25.000 Ben Carson contemplates endorsing Donald Trump.

01:02:28.000 Okay, business time.

01:02:35.000 Really simple.

01:02:36.000 Some of you don't know where to find me.

01:02:38.000 Louderwithcrowder.com.

01:02:39.000 Half a dozen to ten articles every single day.

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01:02:57.000 There are so many ways for you to stay connected.

01:02:59.000 You have no excuse.

01:03:00.000 You have no excuse just like you have no excuse for those roles that are just cascading over your belt buckles.

01:03:07.000 You should be ashamed.

01:03:08.000 Unless you're a lady. 1.00

01:03:09.000 Then you deserve a medal.

01:03:10.000 Get her a medal. 1.00

01:03:50.000 Not gay, Jared. 1.00

01:03:50.000 Close your curtain behind you. 1.00

01:03:52.000 It's all open and it looks like...

01:03:52.000 It's bothering me.

01:03:55.000 Looks like hell!

01:03:56.000 So we were talking...

01:03:57.000 I just got a direct message, which is rare during the live show.

01:04:00.000 If someone who really liked what we were talking about, it wasn't quite clear in the last segment.

01:04:03.000 They wanted that as a video clip.

01:04:06.000 You know, I was talking with my dad about this, because we were talking about racism, sexism.

01:04:11.000 You know, people just throw it out there nowadays.

01:04:13.000 You know who must be the most racist, sexist people on the planet? 0.94

01:04:17.000 Are scientists... 0.99

01:04:18.000 Oh, okay.

01:04:19.000 I was going to say penguins.

01:04:19.000 What were you going to say?

01:04:20.000 They come to my mind as little prejudice.

01:04:22.000 They're a little uppity.

01:04:24.000 They are a little bit.

01:04:25.000 And then they try to disguise.

01:04:26.000 They try to play it off because they're black and white.

01:04:29.000 Well, I was going to say more so because they're always black tie, formal.

01:04:35.000 Yeah.

01:04:36.000 It doesn't matter where they go.

01:04:37.000 That's the thing.

01:04:38.000 It's just like, just every now and then we want to see you put your guard down, penguins.

01:04:42.000 You don't need to wear the tuxedo.

01:04:43.000 Just relax by the couch.

01:04:45.000 Sit on an egg for a few weeks.

01:04:47.000 You don't need the tuxedo.

01:04:48.000 What happened was they wore it once.

01:04:50.000 People opened the doors for them.

01:04:52.000 Let them in the bank.

01:04:54.000 They felt not judged for once, and they just ran with it.

01:04:59.000 I really do.

01:05:00.000 Have you ever smelled a penguin exhibit?

01:05:03.000 Oh, we're still on penguins?

01:05:07.000 You have this look like, oh, get serious now.

01:05:11.000 Have you ever smelled a penguin exhibit?

01:05:13.000 I have not.

01:05:14.000 It is particularly bad.

01:05:16.000 I don't know if it's an oil that makes them waterproof, the coating, but penguins are really, really smelly.

01:05:24.000 Abnormally so.

01:05:25.000 Even in the bird kingdom.

01:05:27.000 They're like the John Kasich of birds.

01:05:30.000 There we go.

01:05:31.000 They're like the John Kasich of flightless birds.

01:05:34.000 Even among flightless birds.

01:05:35.000 Like... 0.62

01:05:36.000 As useless as it gets. 1.00

01:05:38.000 There are also jerks. 1.00

01:05:39.000 You know, I have that stand-up bit. 0.99

01:05:40.000 I don't usually talk about this on here, but you've seen it, where we're talking about all the cute animals and penguins, how they shove the nearest penguin off the iceberg to check for seals, which is really awkward for that penguin if there's a seal, but even more worse, even worse if there isn't.

01:05:53.000 It's super awkward.

01:05:55.000 If you come to the show in D.C. next week at American University, you'll be able to hear the bits.

01:05:59.000 We go through sea otters, penguins, dolphins.

01:06:02.000 Funny enough, in the stand-up, a lot of science in my stand-up.

01:06:06.000 I remember that when I saw you live for the first time a few weeks ago.

01:06:06.000 There was.

01:06:10.000 That's right.

01:06:10.000 I walked away incredibly educated.

01:06:12.000 Incredibly educated.

01:06:13.000 Appreciate that.

01:06:14.000 People learn a lot about dolphins and omega fatty acids and gluten.

01:06:18.000 And gluten.

01:06:19.000 And veganism.

01:06:20.000 Veganism, vegetarianism.

01:06:22.000 So, okay, so we're talking about this.

01:06:23.000 It's important to learn these terms that are defined.

01:06:25.000 Racism, sexism is an umbrella term.

01:06:28.000 Establishment is an umbrella term that's thrown around a lot today.

01:06:32.000 People say that about Marco Rubio.

01:06:34.000 Violence is another one.

01:06:35.000 Gun violence.

01:06:36.000 Shooting violence.

01:06:37.000 Violence is another one that just kind of becomes anything they want to or don't want to.

01:06:41.000 Especially Christian social justice warriors.

01:06:43.000 I won't throw that out there.

01:06:44.000 Yeah, violence I've talked about.

01:06:45.000 Violence is not inherently immoral.

01:06:47.000 It's not.

01:06:48.000 Violence can be used to rape someone or violence can be used to stop a rape.

01:06:51.000 Just like money.

01:06:52.000 Money is not immoral.

01:06:54.000 We had a pastor one time get up.

01:06:55.000 I remember when I was in Greenfield Park, Quebec, and he just berated rich people, talked about how bad they were.

01:07:02.000 I don't like the prosperity preaching thing in the Christian stuff, but I also don't like this whole nobility and poverty.

01:07:07.000 That doesn't help anybody either.

01:07:09.000 And he talked about how bad rich people were, and I think a millionaire only wants another million, and then passed the hat afterward to do missions work.

01:07:17.000 And I made it a point to tell him why I wasn't giving him any money.

01:07:21.000 I went out of my way to say, you know, I worked really hard for it, which makes me a bad person.

01:07:25.000 And he even, I remember, on the podium, what do you call it?

01:07:28.000 Stage podium?

01:07:29.000 Pulpit?

01:07:30.000 I guess pulpit.

01:07:32.000 Misquoted the verse saying money is the root of all evil.

01:07:35.000 That's not the verse.

01:07:35.000 It's money is a root of all kinds of evil.

01:07:39.000 Meaning money is a potential, one of many different roots.

01:07:43.000 If you back it up to the beginning, the love of money.

01:07:45.000 That's right.

01:07:45.000 The love of money.

01:07:47.000 Which basically goes back to idolatry.

01:07:49.000 So it's one of those things.

01:07:51.000 You can take a million dollars and you can use it to put a hit on somebody.

01:07:56.000 Or you can take a million dollars and you can give it to charity.

01:07:59.000 Or you can help some people in need.

01:08:01.000 Or you can take that million dollars and put a hit out on somebody who needs it.

01:08:05.000 I would never imply, never ever imply like John Kasich.

01:08:08.000 I'm talking about someone like Kony, you know, the warlords.

01:08:10.000 So, that's a good point.

01:08:12.000 We released a video this week, and it's picking up steam a lot.

01:08:15.000 Vox released an anti-firearm, anti-Second Amendment video, and it went viral.

01:08:19.000 Again, a lot of conservatives listening terrestrially probably haven't seen it, but young people have.

01:08:23.000 It had a lot of plays.

01:08:25.000 Up to half a million or something like that?

01:08:26.000 Yeah, it's close to that, I think.

01:08:27.000 Pretty high.

01:08:28.000 And I don't use the term propaganda lightly, okay?

01:08:31.000 It's important for conservatives to understand this.

01:08:33.000 Don't call someone you disagree with a liar.

01:08:36.000 Generally, give someone the benefit of the doubt. 0.55

01:08:38.000 Because when you encounter a real liar like a Hillary Clinton, it bolsters your argument. 0.77

01:08:44.000 If they just go, well, that's just Donald Trump. 0.99

01:08:47.000 He calls everyone a liar. 0.98

01:08:48.000 He called Ted Cruz a liar. 1.00

01:08:49.000 He's going to call Hillary Clinton a liar. 0.92

01:08:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:51.000 Donald Trump has called everyone a liar, so him calling Hillary Clinton a liar isn't going to be that helpful.

01:08:56.000 If you call everyone a liar, it really does water down your argument.

01:09:00.000 A lot of the time, people are just wrong.

01:09:03.000 Like your friends, your social justice friends, they've been misled.

01:09:06.000 You have to allow for that.

01:09:09.000 It's one thing to get something wrong.

01:09:11.000 It's one thing to proactively know the truth and ignore it.

01:09:13.000 That's a lie.

01:09:14.000 Vox did that. 0.98

01:09:15.000 They pushed propaganda.

01:09:16.000 They deliberately misled by, in this video, and we rebutted it, they included statistics that were overall gun deaths in the United States.

01:09:26.000 And then they did per capita.

01:09:51.000 There's been a significant decrease in overall violent crime.

01:09:55.000 So, mass shootings is a term that leftists hide behind.

01:09:58.000 Well, they don't really like to define it.

01:09:59.000 Vox used several different definitions of mass shootings within their same video.

01:10:04.000 But...

01:10:05.000 Violent crime or gun-related homicide is a legal term.

01:10:09.000 The FBI needs to have those statistics.

01:10:11.000 So anytime you see somebody using terms like establishment or mass shooting or racism or sexism, anytime you notice a pattern of somebody using terms that are difficult to define or can be subjectively defined depending on their motive or depending on that situation, immediately you need to question it.

01:10:32.000 And we'll have to talk more about this afterward, but I wanted to get to the establishment because John Boehner referred to Ted Cruz as Lucifer this week and wants to trot out Paul Ryan.

01:10:42.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:10:44.000 I don't think Paul Ryan's a bad guy, but my gosh. 0.99

01:10:47.000 Talk about a wimp. 0.96

01:10:49.000 We'll talk more about that.

01:10:50.000 We have Lauren Southern coming up after the break to talk about her run-in with angry feminists and the assault. 1.00

01:10:55.000 Ladder with Crowder.

01:10:56.000 Stay tuned.

01:11:37.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

01:11:39.000 We take you now to a Republican Party currently underway.

01:11:45.000 It's nice just to relax out here.

01:11:47.000 No, the cold air really contrasts with the water, nice.

01:11:49.000 Yeah, it's just too much in there for me.

01:11:51.000 Oh, hi there you guys are.

01:11:52.000 Oh, a hot tub.

01:11:54.000 I didn't know we had one of those here.

01:11:56.000 I would have brought my trunks.

01:11:58.000 I tell you, there's nothing better than a good soak.

01:12:01.000 Yeah, that's right, John.

01:12:02.000 Though my doctor advises against it, you know, on account of the hemorrhoids.

01:12:06.000 Oh, Well, it looks like it's just us boys, so I think briefs should work fine.

01:12:12.000 Let me hop on in there.

01:12:13.000 You don't have to.

01:12:13.000 No, you don't have to.

01:12:14.000 Yeah, you really don't have to.

01:12:15.000 And, you know, it may seem counterintuitive, but the hot water really helps my IBS. We'll keep you updated as the Republican Party progresses after this.

01:12:30.000 Whoa, Jared, what are you doing? 0.98

01:12:32.000 Shoot bad guys! 0.99

01:12:33.000 AR-15! 1.00

01:12:33.000 With what? 1.00

01:12:34.000 Where'd you get it?

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01:12:36.000 Oh, there's another one!

01:12:37.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:12:38.000 You got him!

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01:12:49.000 With your what?

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01:12:53.000 That's the best place to go, and that's the takeaway, because this commercial's about to stop!

01:13:20.000 So glad to be back with our next guest.

01:13:23.000 So she's been on the program before, but she was actually the news story herself as opposed to reporting the news this time.

01:13:29.000 You can watch her on Rebel Media, of course, in Canada, or follow her if you are stateside at Lauren underscore Southern.

01:13:36.000 Lauren Southern, thank you for being with us.

01:13:38.000 Hi, Stephen.

01:13:39.000 Thanks for having me.

01:13:40.000 Oh, geez.

01:13:40.000 Look, it's not nearly as early as last time.

01:13:43.000 It looks like there's light.

01:13:45.000 Yes, there is.

01:13:46.000 It's nice and light outside here.

01:13:47.000 Okay, so we have a bunch to get into here, but we were supposed to have you on, and sorry that we had to bump you, by the way.

01:13:53.000 I think we explained it was just a rough couple of weeks.

01:13:56.000 But you had a little bit of a run in it yourself, so I want to know if there's something developing here.

01:14:01.000 But for people who don't know, you went to a feminist rally, as you always do. 1.00

01:14:06.000 You're very polite, much more polite than I am.

01:14:08.000 And there was a little bit of a kerfuffle.

01:14:11.000 There was a dust-up, a hootenanny that happened.

01:14:13.000 Explain to the audience.

01:14:15.000 This one actually wasn't a feminist rally. 1.00

01:14:18.000 This was supposedly an anti-fascist rally.

01:14:21.000 There was supposed to be a speaker in Canada.

01:14:23.000 And I don't know if he's a fascist or not.

01:14:25.000 I was just curious to see what he had to say.

01:14:27.000 He's running for the Libertarian Party in the States.

01:14:29.000 Augustus Sol Invictus.

01:14:31.000 Very controversial guy.

01:14:32.000 And he was actually blocked from coming into the country.

01:14:35.000 And his whole event was cancelled because anti-fascists supposedly decided to shut down his free speech, shut down the forum, everything.

01:14:43.000 Because they are so against fascism, right?

01:14:46.000 One second.

01:14:46.000 So the anti-fascist protesters, these were people banning the guy from speaking?

01:14:53.000 Yes.

01:14:54.000 Okay.

01:14:54.000 Yes.

01:14:55.000 It's very interesting.

01:14:55.000 I know.

01:14:56.000 And they had posted on their Facebook page that if he did end up getting into the country to speak, they were going to be throwing feces at him.

01:15:03.000 They were going to attack him.

01:15:05.000 One of the comments on the page actually said, the left needs to stop being afraid of using violence against opinions they don't like.

01:15:13.000 I don't think a left has ever been afraid of using violence against opinions they don't like.

01:15:16.000 That didn't even require an announcement.

01:15:18.000 It's just stating a factual reality.

01:15:23.000 Right, so a lot of the people who were going to be going to the speech, there were just a lot of libertarians in the area, including myself, and we decided to go for drinks that evening.

01:15:31.000 And the anti-fascist protesters still showed up to just our drink night in the area where the speech was supposed to be, dressed fully in balclavas with cameras.

01:15:41.000 They were all covering their faces in all black.

01:15:43.000 If I were standing across the street, I would have thought they were supposedly the fascists.

01:15:48.000 Sure.

01:15:49.000 Right?

01:15:49.000 Right.

01:15:50.000 And we got into a bit of a discussion with them.

01:15:52.000 We're like, you guys are calling yourselves anti-fascists and you're shutting down people's forums to free speech.

01:15:59.000 How does that add up?

01:16:00.000 Like, we're all very pro-speech people.

01:16:02.000 Why not go challenge this guy's ideas if you don't agree with him?

01:16:05.000 Why not, like, actually have a discussion?

01:16:08.000 And I saw a few of the girls there. 1.00

01:16:09.000 I was just there to record.

01:16:11.000 I had a friend there who does some recording for me every once in a while.

01:16:13.000 So I was just recording the conversation at first. 0.90

01:16:15.000 But then I saw one of the girls who was at the slut walk Wait, what's her name? 1.00

01:16:30.000 Oh, something... 0.97

01:16:31.000 Natasha Cadio, I believe.

01:16:33.000 I don't know how to pronounce that, right?

01:16:33.000 That's just not Gay Jared's pseudonym.

01:16:35.000 That's just his online pseudonym.

01:16:36.000 He's just messing with you.

01:16:37.000 Oh, you fell for it.

01:16:39.000 Oh.

01:16:40.000 Gotcha. 0.95

01:16:41.000 Uh, troll... 0.99

01:16:42.000 It's a fat suit you got there. 0.98

01:16:43.000 Troll level alpha.

01:16:44.000 Okay.

01:16:45.000 Oh, is she big?

01:16:45.000 Well, that's true.

01:16:46.000 She's a lot bigger than not Gay Jared. 0.91

01:16:47.000 They outweigh...

01:16:48.000 He would not do well in a feminist MMA tournament. 0.79

01:16:52.000 He couldn't make the weight.

01:16:53.000 He'd be too light.

01:16:54.000 Okay.

01:16:54.000 So this girl has been harassing you for a long time.

01:16:57.000 I want to get to the...

01:16:59.000 Yeah, we got into a discussion.

01:17:01.000 Yeah, I don't like to play victim and say I'm harassed.

01:17:03.000 I don't mean harassed. 0.98

01:17:04.000 Okay, she's been a horrible witch with a capital B to you. 1.00

01:17:07.000 Is that okay? 0.99

01:17:08.000 Can I say that?

01:17:09.000 That's fair.

01:17:09.000 You're not a victim.

01:17:10.000 She's just rude, and she should smile more because I'm a sexist. 0.91

01:17:13.000 So, this girl is there, and bring us to, I guess, the sort of climax here for people who don't know, because it's a good one.

01:17:22.000 So, we got into a discussion on gender politics.

01:17:25.000 And one of the girls said for something, we need to be feminists for all the genders. 1.00

01:17:31.000 And I'm like, oh, so men and women, right?

01:17:34.000 So two genders. 1.00

01:17:35.000 And that just, they snapped.

01:17:38.000 They were like, what are you talking about?

01:17:39.000 That is so transphobic.

01:17:41.000 How can you say that?

01:17:42.000 I don't understand how it's transphobic, considering I don't know if trans people want to be their own separate third gender or want to be male or female.

01:17:49.000 It's all very confusing for me.

01:17:51.000 Well, you have lots of trans friends.

01:17:52.000 You're the one who introduced us to Theron Meyer, who we had on the show, and you're far more progressive on that front, so the last person I'd peg as transphobic is you, simply for saying male and female.

01:18:03.000 Right, well that's what I accidentally did.

01:18:05.000 I was like, my trans friends wouldn't consider me transphobic.

01:18:07.000 And they're like, that's like saying you have a black friend so you're not a racist.

01:18:10.000 But it's a perfectly legitimate argument.

01:18:12.000 If you have a bunch of black friends, if you hang out, and I wouldn't even be surprised if Theron was there that night for drinks, if you're there with one of your best friends who's a transsexual, transgender, that means you probably don't hate them.

01:18:25.000 Just because they say that, it doesn't make it a less valid argument. 0.98

01:18:30.000 Well, no, you're obviously hanging out with all your black and trans friends on leashes. 1.00

01:18:34.000 Well, in the trans community, that's just Tuesday. 0.96

01:18:34.000 Right. 0.96

01:18:38.000 This is true.

01:18:39.000 This is true.

01:18:40.000 If they want it, then it's alright.

01:18:41.000 Yes.

01:18:42.000 Anyways, I'm just like, how is this controversial, saying there are only two genders?

01:18:48.000 And I just feel something pour over me and screaming around me, and I'm like, oh my goodness, did someone just pour something on me? 0.99

01:18:56.000 And I'm drenched, and the guy beside me says, you smell like you reek of piss, Lawrence. 1.00

01:19:02.000 And the feminists around me start laughing and pointing at me and saying, go to hell. 1.00

01:19:08.000 I hope that washed the scum off you. 1.00

01:19:10.000 And I'm just like, I start laughing. 1.00

01:19:12.000 Well, urine is sterile.

01:19:13.000 So they're not wrong.

01:19:16.000 It can be cleansing.

01:19:18.000 Okay.

01:19:19.000 Do you think it was actually urine?

01:19:21.000 Because I know someone said that.

01:19:22.000 But do you believe it was?

01:19:24.000 Did you smell it?

01:19:25.000 Do you have any kind of proof or is it just a hunch?

01:19:29.000 Like I said, I've said it online.

01:19:31.000 I don't expect anyone to believe a single thing I say unless I have 100% substantial evidence.

01:19:36.000 What I do have is the people that were beside me, that were the witnesses that said they're almost 100% positive.

01:19:42.000 It's urine.

01:19:43.000 I actually am talking to someone from a testing lab right now on Facebook who we've kept my cameraman's clothes in a bag.

01:19:52.000 For, uh, it's been like two weeks now.

01:19:55.000 I don't know if it'll still be able to be tested, but he's kept it, like, Monica Lewinsky's blue dress, and we're gonna see if we can get it tested.

01:20:01.000 Until then, I have no problem with people just saying it was pop.

01:20:04.000 Can you do that with your...

01:20:04.000 Because I'm not someone...

01:20:06.000 I don't...

01:20:06.000 The girl I'm talking to said you can, so we will try our best to get 100%...

01:20:12.000 Evidence, but I don't expect anyone to believe me until I actually...

01:20:15.000 If there were ever any burden of...

01:20:17.000 If you ever needed any more evidence as to the unrealistic standard of burden of proof with conservatives, Lauren Southern, ladies and gentlemen, she has her urine-soaked clothing in a bag which she will take to the lab, whereas feminists just yell rape at Columbia campus, and it's written up... 1.00

01:20:35.000 Or Virginia...

01:20:36.000 University of West Virginia was Rolling Stone?

01:20:36.000 What was it?

01:20:38.000 I think so.

01:20:39.000 Columbia got New York Times.

01:20:40.000 That's all they need.

01:20:42.000 She needs to have Morgan Freeman from The Dark Knight in a secret underground lab to prove that someone peed on her. 1.00

01:20:48.000 The best thing is that there's somebody, some woman, some hag of a feminist somewhere right now watching this going, I shouldn't have done that. 0.99

01:20:55.000 They're onto us, Carl! 0.92

01:20:58.000 Sorry, what was that, Lauren?

01:20:59.000 You know, that is the really funny thing about this. 0.96

01:21:01.000 That's probably my favorite part, is the reaction online on Twitter from left-wing media in Canada was all of them saying, well, she was probably lying, because she probably paid, Ezra LeBond probably paid someone to go and dump urine on her head.

01:21:17.000 They're all saying that I've created this false playground, and it's just hilarious, because suddenly, hashtag believe women does not apply to me.

01:21:25.000 It's some...

01:21:25.000 False flag that I paid someone to pour urine on me and I'm lying about it.

01:21:29.000 And I told them all, I'm like, you know what?

01:21:30.000 I wish you had this level of skepticism when dealing with other cases with females telling stories. 1.00

01:21:36.000 This is great.

01:21:37.000 Now we know you have the capability of being skeptical and questioning women's stories. 0.99

01:21:41.000 Now apply it across the board.

01:21:43.000 Yes, that is good.

01:21:45.000 You were really coming into your own.

01:21:46.000 You know, the first time you were on, she was a little bit more shy, and you seem like you're more fluid now.

01:21:50.000 Do you feel like you're getting more comfortable with the media thing?

01:21:52.000 Because you're really young.

01:21:53.000 I mean, you're still in school.

01:21:54.000 Do you feel like you've grown leaps and bounds?

01:21:56.000 Do you think the urine was like the elixir?

01:21:59.000 Thank you, Steven.

01:22:01.000 Yeah, no, I'd say I'm getting a little more comfortable with it.

01:22:03.000 Yeah, I'm only 20.

01:22:04.000 A lot of people think I'm like 30.

01:22:05.000 It's insane.

01:22:07.000 It's the makeup.

01:22:08.000 It's hard to guess with women. 1.00

01:22:09.000 With men, the age shows. 0.96

01:22:10.000 With women, it's just hard. 1.00

01:22:13.000 I'm just cheating, yes.

01:22:14.000 Yeah, it's a tough guess.

01:22:17.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:22:18.000 It's good, though, because when people think you're a little older, they give you a little more respect to your opinions.

01:22:22.000 I think it should be the substance of the argument, but unfortunately people do make that judgment based on age as well.

01:22:29.000 No, you're absolutely right.

01:22:30.000 I mean, when I signed, you know, at Fox, I was 21.

01:22:32.000 When I did the Just for Laughs, we were just talking about that with Mike Ward, I was 18, but nobody ever found out until afterward.

01:22:37.000 Remember, the little gray that I have here, I've had this since 21.

01:22:40.000 So when I was 21, people assumed I was, you know, 28, and I'm 28, people assumed typically somewhere around there, so...

01:22:47.000 Yeah, the one thing I don't like is when young people use it as a gimmick, and that was one thing I never wanted to do, because I had to introduce little conservatives at CPAC who are 14, and I remember talking with the organizers saying, this is only going to end badly.

01:23:00.000 And most of them did.

01:23:02.000 All of them did.

01:23:03.000 Every single one of them did.

01:23:04.000 But Lauren's, I didn't know she was, did you know she was 20?

01:23:07.000 I thought she was like 22, 23.

01:23:08.000 Oh, okay.

01:23:09.000 So there you go, Lauren.

01:23:10.000 You can drink, in my opinion of you.

01:23:12.000 She can drink, yeah. 1.00

01:23:14.000 Well, in Canada, she can anyway. 0.85

01:23:15.000 That's true.

01:23:16.000 So is there any...

01:23:18.000 Sorry.

01:23:19.000 Any ramifications at all?

01:23:21.000 You're not going to press charges?

01:23:22.000 You're just going to...

01:23:24.000 No, the police did contact me because the small Asian girl that was with me there, we went out for drinks earlier. 0.99

01:23:29.000 She's a candidate for the Libertarian Party.

01:23:31.000 She put in a police report just to make sure that it was there, and they contacted me to press charges.

01:23:37.000 I told them I wasn't really interested in going forward because it would be a one- to two-year court case just because of how backed up the system is.

01:23:45.000 And that system is probably backed up from feminists filing assault charges and tweets, they get. 1.00

01:23:50.000 So I'm not about to slow down that system even more for something that I just had to take a shower for.

01:23:56.000 I can ignore tweets.

01:23:57.000 I can take showers when people throw piss on me.

01:24:00.000 It is not that big of a deal.

01:24:01.000 I'm not about to play a professional victim, and I'm getting very tired of this culture where people run and whine to the police when they are bumped in a crowd or have a drink spilled on them.

01:24:12.000 I don't want to be that person.

01:24:13.000 Even though this was maliciously done, I honestly just don't care that much.

01:24:32.000 Well, you know, even Milo, God bless them, sometimes can be dramatic with that when they're just yelling out, they hate you.

01:24:37.000 I'm like, well, that's not really assault.

01:24:39.000 You know, someone who was viciously assaulted, and I didn't even want to file a report, and it depends on the prosecuting attorney.

01:24:46.000 It's a really corrupt legal system.

01:24:49.000 Yeah, like you said, some people really can bog it down.

01:24:52.000 They probably saw your name and said, ah, it's another feminist. 1.00

01:24:55.000 Put it in the pile with the others.

01:24:57.000 We want to continue on that train of thought.

01:24:59.000 Can we keep you for one more segment?

01:25:00.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:25:01.000 Lauren Southern.

01:25:02.000 Oh, you were saying two minutes.

01:25:02.000 No, wait.

01:25:03.000 I thought you were saying 20 seconds.

01:25:05.000 Jared doesn't have consistent signaling.

01:25:07.000 Okay, so you were saying that, and I want to get into that because I noticed you tweeted a lot about the Breitbart controversy.

01:25:07.000 This is true.

01:25:13.000 With Michelle Fields. 1.00

01:25:13.000 Shut up, Jared. 1.00

01:25:15.000 Now, I understand where you're coming from. 1.00

01:25:16.000 She wasn't hurt.

01:25:18.000 However...

01:25:21.000 However, Lewandowski lied and said she wasn't there, he never met her, she's a drama queen, and Tettis wasn't there, and of course they were there and he was talking to them.

01:25:29.000 So there are lies there, and you don't put your hands on a journalist for asking an unfavorable question.

01:25:35.000 Is it a violent assault?

01:25:36.000 No, I think there's exaggeration.

01:25:37.000 But where do you line up on that?

01:25:39.000 Can you see both of those sides?

01:25:42.000 Well, the issue, I don't think it was an assault at all.

01:25:44.000 I've had the exact same thing happen to me while asking questions to popular figures being pushed out of the way.

01:25:49.000 I've had worse things happen to my cameramen who have gotten bumped in while they were filming things with other journalists around, and that's just the life of a journalist, right?

01:25:58.000 But with this one specifically, both sides obviously bugged me.

01:25:58.000 Right.

01:26:02.000 The biggest thing that bugged me is when it comes to pressing charges over it.

01:26:06.000 The charges are being pressed because she says she didn't get an apology.

01:26:10.000 If your judgment of what is criminal or not...

01:26:12.000 There aren't charges.

01:26:12.000 Well, there aren't charges.

01:26:13.000 Is she not?

01:26:13.000 Okay, well...

01:26:14.000 A criminal complaint.

01:26:15.000 Criminal complaint.

01:26:16.000 If your judgment of what is criminal or not is based on whether you get an apology or not, it isn't that serious.

01:26:22.000 Well, I don't think...

01:26:23.000 It's not.

01:26:23.000 And I don't know Michelle Fields.

01:26:24.000 I know Ben, obviously, and he's a friend in...

01:26:28.000 Obviously, anyway, there's a lot of inside baseball that I try and avoid on the program.

01:26:33.000 Well, you know, we have to go to break.

01:26:34.000 Let's talk about it when we come back, because I think there's a lot to dive into there, and I think you're right about most of it.

01:26:40.000 Oh, you're giving...

01:26:40.000 See, now you're changing the signals.

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01:28:33.000 Alright, we are back, of we are back, of course, of course, with none other than Lauren Southern.

01:29:00.000 Watch her on Rebel Media if you are in Canada, on the internets, or follow her on Twitter at Lauren underscore Southern.

01:29:07.000 Glad to have you back.

01:29:07.000 Okay, we got some tweets during the break, Lauren.

01:29:10.000 Someone said, one of the biggest fans of the show, of course, Jimmy Chewbacca, said, please tell us Lauren isn't a Trumpy, which I know we talked about last time.

01:29:18.000 So I know you're libertarian, but you also enjoy the alt-right.

01:29:22.000 So that's got to be conflicting for you.

01:29:28.000 Oh, that's a total opposite.

01:29:46.000 I'm sorry.

01:29:47.000 All I get is like, you know, the cuck thing, and we've talked about that.

01:29:51.000 I mean, I understand where you're coming from, too.

01:29:54.000 From the left, the rally thing makes me have to defend him.

01:29:58.000 But you also have to acknowledge that if you're going to get mad at Michelle Fields, you know, Trump threatening to sue Ted Cruz unless he apologizes for using Trump's quotes, you would have to say that's also problematic, right?

01:30:10.000 I hate that word.

01:30:10.000 Problematic.

01:30:11.000 Okay, dick move. 0.99

01:30:14.000 Illegal. 0.99

01:30:15.000 Illegal.

01:30:16.000 I mean, it's very hard for me.

01:30:19.000 Obviously, I would want someone who is more libertarian.

01:30:21.000 No, but you would say that's a problem, specifically, right?

01:30:25.000 Threatening to sue Ted Cruz if he doesn't apologize for running an ad of Trump's quotes side-by-side.

01:30:30.000 Yeah, that's petty.

01:30:31.000 It's very petty.

01:30:32.000 And there are very petty things going back and forth in this entire election.

01:30:36.000 However, I can't say I hate Trump.

01:30:39.000 I don't hate him.

01:30:40.000 I think he's really shifted the Overton window of the discussion in political campaigns.

01:30:45.000 And I enjoy that.

01:30:46.000 I think that's something that needed to happen.

01:30:48.000 And if he is the nominee for the Republicans, I don't think I will pull a hashtag never Trump.

01:30:56.000 I think I would probably back him if he was chosen as the nominee.

01:30:59.000 Yeah, well, I think for the vitriolic hatred, I've never done the never-Trump thing.

01:31:02.000 I think the vitriolic hatred that you're experiencing, you know, multiply that by ten, and that's people who don't openly support Trump who are conservatives.

01:31:08.000 I mean, my issue is, you know, when I get emails from people saying that if you don't get in line for Trump, you know, people like you need to be purged from conservative media, that's where I go, now I have to.

01:31:19.000 Now I have to be truthful about everything.

01:31:21.000 I mean, you've heard this show.

01:31:22.000 We've insulted literally everybody on the program, including Ted Cruz for a long time.

01:31:28.000 You know, I do see where a lot of the people who are—I see where you're coming from when it comes to the whole—you're getting cockservative all the time. 0.96

01:31:34.000 Yesterday, I got at least 100 tweets of people calling—from people with the Trump hat profiles calling me a filthy Jew. 0.96

01:31:41.000 I'm not even Jewish. 0.97

01:31:42.000 I get that all the time, too, yeah. 0.84

01:31:44.000 Must be horrible for Shapiro, because he's actually Jewish. 1.00

01:31:47.000 He's got a thick skin, but it still must irk him a little bit.

01:31:50.000 See, I don't know what to do.

01:31:51.000 It's the strangest thing, because it feels like I'm a white person walking down the street being called the N-word, and I'm kind of like, should I be offended?

01:31:57.000 Should I? No, no, the general rule is never be offended.

01:32:00.000 Never be offended.

01:32:02.000 Yeah, you know, that's the thing.

01:32:03.000 I like that about Trump, too, with the rally.

01:32:04.000 So back to the Michelle Fields thing.

01:32:06.000 I understand where you're coming from, and that's why I use the Trump comparison.

01:32:08.000 She didn't threaten to sue unless he apologizes.

01:32:11.000 She didn't press charges, filed a criminal complaint.

01:32:16.000 She said her reasoning.

01:32:18.000 And this is, again, why truth matters to me.

01:32:20.000 Because, like, Kasich, we just ragged on him all show.

01:32:22.000 I can't stand him.

01:32:23.000 But the idea that George Soros gave him half a million dollars is not true.

01:32:26.000 Someone who worked for George Soros' financial fund, who's a long-time Republican donor, gave $200,000 to John Kasich's PAC. I don't like John Kasich.

01:32:35.000 I don't want to defend him, but that's truth.

01:32:38.000 That still matters.

01:32:39.000 Michelle Fields said she felt the need to file a criminal complaint because she was thrown under the bus by her employers and they ran the lie that she was never even at the event or misidentified him.

01:32:50.000 So she said she felt she was pressed.

01:32:52.000 That's her employers, not Lewandowski.

01:32:54.000 And I can understand why.

01:32:55.000 This is one thing I can't understand.

01:32:57.000 No, but she said she had to do it because if her employers are going to run something that was verifiably false, she felt the need to go on record saying, this is what happened, and I can prove it.

01:33:05.000 So that was her argument.

01:33:06.000 And I think that's what Ben liked.

01:33:07.000 We'll see what comes from that.

01:33:09.000 But I don't think that Lewandowski was malicious when he did that.

01:33:12.000 I think he was moving right out of the way.

01:33:13.000 I don't think that someone would genuinely think to themselves, hey, I'm Trump's campaign manager.

01:33:18.000 You know what would be a great idea?

01:33:24.000 I don't think he thought that at all.

01:33:26.000 I don't think if he could go back and not even go near her, I think he would have done that.

01:33:32.000 I also understand why the Trump campaign didn't apologize.

01:33:37.000 Because if they apologized, they would have been admitting to nearly pulling her to the ground, which from the video, the only video we have that really shows what happened, that was not the case.

01:33:48.000 She was not nearly pulled to the ground, which has been repeated on Fox News by Shapiro, which has been stated by Michelle herself in her Breitbart article.

01:33:48.000 At all.

01:33:56.000 So the exaggeration on both sides.

01:33:58.000 Yeah, there's exaggeration.

01:33:59.000 And like I said, as someone who has been punched in the face repeatedly on camera, that always bothers me.

01:34:06.000 I mean, if people want to get mad at Barack Obama for not allowing Fox News, Donald Trump is absolutely the single most authoritarian candidate in modern history when it comes to journalism.

01:34:15.000 He just bans them, doesn't give you the right to be there, and they retracted it, but I tend to believe the initial story when they said, you know, if we'd have known it was a Breitbart reporter, we wouldn't have done that.

01:34:26.000 What is wrong is to, in any instance, you see everyone was asking the presidential candidate questions to grab her and single her out because it was an uncomfortable question.

01:34:37.000 That is something that, in the United States, in the same reason we have the First Amendment on free speech, freedom of the press is just as important.

01:34:43.000 And that is an issue.

01:34:45.000 And then when someone lies about it, I have a problem with it.

01:34:47.000 I do agree with you.

01:34:48.000 She probably wasn't hurt and wasn't anywhere near thrown to the ground.

01:34:51.000 But that's not okay.

01:34:54.000 I don't know if it was specifically because it was an uncomfortable question.

01:34:57.000 If that was the case, obviously I'd like to hear Trump's opinions on all questions.

01:35:01.000 I'd like him to answer those.

01:35:03.000 However, yeah, the exaggeration, it was a non-story until you had the audio tape and the exaggerations released.

01:35:11.000 If it were just that small video clip that was released, no one would have cared.

01:35:15.000 If it were not Lewandowski that did that, and if it were a secret service agent, No one would have cared.

01:35:20.000 It was because it was a public figure.

01:35:21.000 And I'm finding a lot of the people that really, really hate Trump are just jumping on this and saying it was an assault.

01:35:28.000 I think you've made a lot of assumptions there.

01:35:30.000 I think you've made a lot of assumptions there.

01:35:31.000 To be fair, Ben Shapiro has supported Trump for a long time on a lot of issues and now doesn't, and he had a problem with that.

01:35:36.000 Ben Shapiro is a Harvard Law grad.

01:35:38.000 I listen to him a lot.

01:35:39.000 I'm not just talking about Shapiro.

01:35:41.000 I listen to Shapiro all the time.

01:35:43.000 I don't think he's right on this issue.

01:35:44.000 But I'm saying people like him.

01:35:46.000 They would not care if it were someone else.

01:35:48.000 If Barack Obama's people did that because someone asked Barack Obama about Bill Ayers, I think they'd have a problem with it.

01:35:54.000 I don't know, but I agree with you.

01:35:56.000 There's exaggeration all around, and this campaign is a circus.

01:35:59.000 Oh gosh, we'll have to go to break.

01:36:00.000 Lauren Southern, we'll bring you back soon and talk more about urine when you get the lab analysis. 1.00

01:36:05.000 We'll be back.

01:36:05.000 All right.

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01:37:29.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

01:37:31.000 We take you now to a Republican Party currently underway.

01:37:36.000 Yeah, I know.

01:37:37.000 I just don't even know what we're going to do.

01:37:38.000 It's such a hard situation.

01:37:40.000 Is that John Kasich out there?

01:37:46.000 No small hands here.

01:37:47.000 Oh my god!

01:37:53.000 We'll keep you updated as the Republican Party progresses after that.

01:38:01.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.

01:38:07.000 Politics.

01:38:07.000 Civility?

01:38:08.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

01:38:10.000 Entertainment.

01:38:11.000 I don't like entertainment.

01:38:13.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

01:38:16.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

01:38:18.000 If you have a very unhealthy body, you should have a horrible body image.

01:38:21.000 Not a big home improvement market in Detroit.

01:38:23.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

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01:38:37.000 All right, we're back in the third hour.

01:38:50.000 Coming up after, at the bottom of the hour, we have Courtney Kirchhoff.

01:38:54.000 Courtney Scoffs on Twitter for people to follow and read her article about why, dear Bernie Sanders voters, you are not men.

01:39:02.000 Amen.

01:39:03.000 Pretty incendiary.

01:39:03.000 Of course, producing with me in the studio, as always, is NotGayJarred.

01:39:06.000 You can follow him on Twitter.

01:39:09.000 He is not gay. 0.55

01:39:10.000 I fulfilled all my legal obligations.

01:39:11.000 Draw your own conclusions.

01:39:13.000 So we've been talking about defining words a lot this week.

01:39:16.000 And Lauren was on. 0.84

01:39:17.000 And I actually think Lauren is pretty balanced in her approach on the Trump side, which I appreciate.

01:39:22.000 I think we try to be, too.

01:39:23.000 I mean, if people go back before the Trump surge, we got so much crap for being critical of Ted Cruz, where we were saying, because at that point, we didn't think he was the best guy to win a general, right?

01:39:32.000 Even at this point, he's not the best guy to win a general.

01:39:36.000 The numbers we have say he would probably be better than Trump, but I fully acknowledge he's not the best guy out there to win a general election.

01:39:43.000 I think we had some other choices who could have done better.

01:39:46.000 And people got so mad at us for saying that.

01:39:48.000 People get so mad when it's finally their candidate.

01:39:52.000 Who would you say had the best sense of...

01:39:54.000 Probably Ted Cruz people have a better sense of humor.

01:39:59.000 I'm trying to think.

01:40:00.000 Rubio people were really upset when we made fun of Rubio.

01:40:05.000 Rand Paul supporters would get upset.

01:40:08.000 Donald Trump supporters can't handle any of it.

01:40:10.000 Who would you say handled it with the best spirit?

01:40:16.000 Gosh.

01:40:20.000 I don't know.

01:40:21.000 I don't think Carly Fiorina really had enough of a following when we were talking about her. 1.00

01:40:28.000 I don't think none of them really stick out in my mind as people who can really...

01:40:33.000 She really didn't care.

01:40:34.000 I don't know.

01:40:35.000 I would say now, between Trump and Cruz, I think the Cruz people are more open to jokes and criticism.

01:40:41.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:40:42.000 I mean, just the debate one with the people thought he was eating a booger.

01:40:47.000 If you type in Ted Cruz eats a booger on YouTube, it's the first thing that pops up from the debate.

01:40:50.000 And, you know...

01:40:52.000 I don't know if he ever addressed it.

01:40:53.000 He ate it, but I don't know if he ever addressed it.

01:40:54.000 It's one of those things you just don't want to address.

01:40:56.000 No.

01:40:57.000 You just go, move on down the trail.

01:41:00.000 Could you imagine if that happened to Trump, though?

01:41:02.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:41:03.000 People would just be, oh, you're getting focused off the issues.

01:41:09.000 I'm still thinking about that little scary guy just kind of going around and never really quite cooperating.

01:41:15.000 Yeah.

01:41:15.000 The turn of his lip?

01:41:16.000 It is a really weird clip.

01:41:18.000 But a term that's thrown around now, right?

01:41:20.000 When we're talking about brokered, contested convention.

01:41:20.000 Establishment.

01:41:23.000 So that's a term that's not really defined.

01:41:27.000 Like Marco Rubio, people say establishment.

01:41:29.000 Listen, Marco Rubio, I hate, I can't stand that he was a part of the Gang of Eight.

01:41:34.000 Okay?

01:41:34.000 That bothers me.

01:41:36.000 But he took out Charlie Crist.

01:41:38.000 That was the seat he took.

01:41:40.000 If you want to talk about establishment, look up the definition.

01:41:43.000 Crist is the person you'll see next to it.

01:41:46.000 John Boehner, Mitch McConnell.

01:41:49.000 These are people.

01:41:49.000 John McCain, of course.

01:41:51.000 People who are career politicians.

01:41:53.000 You need to define the term establishment because when you have the establishment saying Ted Cruz is Lucifer and saying they think they might be able to cut deals with Donald Trump, the term has lost all meaning.

01:42:05.000 It's a term that is used right now.

01:42:07.000 If you hear someone using it a lot without defining it, and we don't really use that term on here very much.

01:42:11.000 I will use it when talking about John Boehner.

01:42:14.000 I will use it when talking about someone like a Mitch McConnell.

01:42:16.000 Jeb Bush, yes.

01:42:17.000 Paul Ryan.

01:42:19.000 Paul Ryan now, but there was a time where he wasn't.

01:42:22.000 I just think he's a pansy.

01:42:24.000 I just don't like Paul Ryan.

01:42:25.000 I don't hate him.

01:42:26.000 I just don't personally like him.

01:42:29.000 But we don't want to destroy all Republicans.

01:42:31.000 You don't want to destroy all conservatives.

01:42:33.000 I wrote about that.

01:42:34.000 Listen, Ted Cruz has to go back to the Senate.

01:42:36.000 Okay, now if you're going to call him just a liar, you know, those are character assaults that go back with him to the Senate.

01:42:41.000 The guy has a 97% consistency rating, more than any politician in modern American history.

01:42:47.000 If you believe he's a liar, then there is no one who's honest.

01:42:51.000 Marco Rubio.

01:42:53.000 He probably won't go back, because unlike Ted Cruz, that's actually a big study in the difference of winning and losing your home state.

01:43:00.000 People who voted for Ted Cruz in Texas, and I know that necessarily wouldn't play well in general, people who voted for him got what they wanted, and so Ted Cruz won by a significant margin in his home state.

01:43:09.000 People who voted for Rubio in Florida felt a little bit betrayed.

01:43:12.000 Now, do I think Marco Rubio is not conservative?

01:43:18.000 Here's the thing.

01:43:18.000 He's been pretty consistent on a lot of other issues, and he made a big mistake with the Gang of Eight.

01:43:23.000 You need to look at the context of what happened there.

01:43:26.000 Barack Obama said, if someone gave me some comprehensive immigration reform, something bipartisan, I would sign it tomorrow.

01:43:31.000 And I think Marco Rubio thought he was calling his bluff, and he did, and it didn't go through.

01:43:35.000 So, it was wrong.

01:43:37.000 But it's not the same as a Boehner or a McCain or a Kasich who has consistently...

01:43:42.000 Concede, concede, concede.

01:43:44.000 Well, not even concede.

01:43:45.000 Proactively plotted against Republicans and conservatives.

01:43:49.000 But, man, if you want to talk about destroying the establishment...

01:43:52.000 So, let's talk about the establishment.

01:43:53.000 People who are career politicians, people who want to be moderate, people who want to make deals, people who tell you that you need to be reasonable in government, who don't really believe that you can repeal, who don't really believe that you can defund, those are establishment people.

01:44:07.000 Those people have always hated Ted Cruz.

01:44:09.000 If you want to talk about burning down the establishment, I don't think there could be any more, talk about rubbing salt in a wound, would be a brokered convention, or putting it into a head-to-head, and the delegates re-pledged to Ted Cruz, and they have to back Ted Cruz, who stood up on stage and called them liars.

01:44:25.000 Now remember, he called Mitch McConnell a liar, and John Boehner called him Lucifer.

01:44:29.000 Donald Trump said, I had a very good call with Mitch McConnell.

01:44:32.000 Can you believe how rude Ted Cruz is to Mitch McConnell?

01:44:34.000 Remember, Donald Trump sided with Mitch McConnell.

01:44:36.000 When Ted Cruz said he was alive.

01:44:38.000 The reason John Boehner thinks Ted Cruz is Lucifer is because of his staunch opposition trying to repeal Obamacare and the government shutdown.

01:44:46.000 So the reason John Boehner, you know, for example, if someone calls Ted Cruz Lucifer a liberal because Ted Cruz is remarkably pro-life, well, okay, you expect that.

01:44:55.000 But John Boehner is mad at Ted Cruz for doing the things that everyone, whether you're voting Trump or Cruz, you hope they do, right?

01:45:02.000 I think most people voting Trump I would like to think you still probably aren't a huge fan of Obamacare.

01:45:10.000 You still probably aren't upset with the government shutdown.

01:45:14.000 You probably want to decrease spending.

01:45:15.000 I think most Trump voters want that, right?

01:45:17.000 I don't think Trump voters are necessarily liberal.

01:45:20.000 I think they believe some things in Trump that I don't.

01:45:22.000 But I think people voting for Trump or Ted Cruz want those things.

01:45:27.000 They just happen to believe one person over the other.

01:45:29.000 John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan hate Ted Cruz because he has stood for those things that you want in a candidate.

01:45:37.000 So that's important to note.

01:45:39.000 So when defining establishment, you have to know who they are, why they hate the people that they hate, and then say, okay, if that's my problem within the party right now, who do I believe will stick it to them or deconstruct the establishment the most?

01:45:55.000 If your goal is to upset and you hate the establishment.

01:45:57.000 Again, I'm not telling you how.

01:45:58.000 I think it's silly, too, when people just act like the establishment must all be in one mindset about what they want, either.

01:46:04.000 I mean, these are a lot of different people.

01:46:06.000 What Gingrich wants could be completely different than what Bob Dole thinks, you know, any agenda he might have up his sleeve.

01:46:13.000 So it's kind of like you talk about it like this big boogie monster that's out to get.

01:46:17.000 It's this one, you know, it's like the Nazi regime, all kind of intertwined and coordinated and, you know, posed to get something or get what they want. 0.77

01:46:26.000 To act like they probably agree is probably not true.

01:46:28.000 There's a lot of them to do.

01:46:30.000 It's like the fake moon landing or Area 51.

01:46:33.000 At some point, if there's a conspiracy that big, someone's going to talk.

01:46:37.000 That's why the only conspiracy that I really give any credence is that Clinton's killing people, because no one can talk because they're dead.

01:46:43.000 So it's the most plausible.

01:46:45.000 And there's that place out there in California where they all get together and sing.

01:46:49.000 Oh, Bohemian Grove.

01:46:50.000 Yeah.

01:46:51.000 There is Bohemian Grove.

01:46:52.000 That does exist, for sure.

01:46:54.000 And for people who don't know, it's a weird, weird thing.

01:46:57.000 And they burn this coffin and effigy to this kind of...

01:47:01.000 Owl-looking god.

01:47:02.000 It really is weird.

01:47:03.000 Because why not?

01:47:04.000 Because why not?

01:47:05.000 But it doesn't necessarily mean that they're meeting with globalists who are trying to put Florida in your tap as a government form of mind control.

01:47:11.000 It could just be a fraternity for really rich and powerful people, you know, like Skull and Bones or like the Freemasons.

01:47:18.000 I mean, that's not a conspiracy, right?

01:47:20.000 You can say these things exist, but to make the leap that they're sacrificing people or they're all having secret meetings to take over the world...

01:47:28.000 So that's a leap that for me requires a little bit of substantiation if we're hopping on board that crazy train.

01:47:34.000 So hopefully this has helped where people throw around the term establishment.

01:47:38.000 My only thing, I don't want to tell you, listen, I don't want to tell you how to vote.

01:47:40.000 I don't want to tell you who to vote for.

01:47:42.000 You know we're riling up.

01:47:43.000 I've been honest about it.

01:47:44.000 I really felt the need to defend Donald Trump with the rally issue.

01:47:49.000 Listen, free speech is free speech.

01:47:50.000 Here's the deal.

01:47:51.000 And this is what bothered me about Ted Cruz.

01:47:53.000 When Ted Cruz came out, first off, the first thing he did was condemn the violent protesters.

01:47:59.000 So, if you're not aware of that, check your news source.

01:48:02.000 Because the first thing Ted Cruz said is they need to be held accountable.

01:48:05.000 And then he said, but the environment from a campaign comes from the top down.

01:48:09.000 Which I think he fired his guy when the guy, what was his name?

01:48:13.000 Gosh, I forgot the name of the guy who tweeted the thing about Marco Rubio.

01:48:16.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, I can't remember.

01:48:17.000 I forgot his name.

01:48:18.000 There's so many names now.

01:48:19.000 He fired him because he thought it was wrong.

01:48:22.000 So, that's what he said.

01:48:24.000 I wish he hadn't said that, though.

01:48:25.000 I wish he would have just talked about the protesters and how wrong they were, because that was a real opportunity.

01:48:30.000 What Ted Cruz, what I would have advised him to say is, okay, listen, they're going to try and say you're anti-free speech, which he's not if you look at how he acted as a lawyer.

01:48:39.000 He should have said, listen, your speech, whatever you say, regardless of how offensive, is protected under the First Amendment.

01:48:48.000 Acts of unprovoked violence are not.

01:48:50.000 Period.

01:48:51.000 Whatever side you line up.

01:48:53.000 That's what you say.

01:48:55.000 Now, the one thing with the Trump rally is, you know, when you do say, punch a guy and I'll pay your legal fees. 0.88

01:49:01.000 We've had to defend against the silly leftist argument of you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

01:49:06.000 And I've always said, well, that's because that's a call to action.

01:49:08.000 That's not speech.

01:49:09.000 That's encouraging people to do something which could in turn be dangerous or deadly.

01:49:14.000 Are you getting into that territory when offering to pay someone legal fees for committing assault?

01:49:19.000 One could argue that.

01:49:20.000 And it makes it hard for free speech advocates to say, no, no, there's a complete solid leg to stand on here.

01:49:26.000 But those protesters in Chicago, the left...

01:49:31.000 They need to be, you need to take direct aim on them.

01:49:34.000 No pity.

01:49:36.000 And you cannot excuse it, regardless of whether you like Trump or not.

01:49:40.000 That was just a horrible, horrible example of modern progressivism in American politics.

01:49:46.000 And we'll talk more about that after the break.

01:49:48.000 And now, Dr. Ben. Dr. Ben.

01:50:07.000 Ben Carson contemplates endorsing Donald Trump.

01:50:12.000 Of course, Mr.

01:50:13.000 Trump, there's also a concern that you've praised single-payer or nationalized healthcare plans as recently as only several months ago.

01:50:25.000 And I would need to, in clear conscience, believe that you've had a change of heart on said issues.

01:50:31.000 Listen, okay?

01:50:32.000 Frankly, that was a different time.

01:50:34.000 That was when Canada was doing great.

01:50:35.000 Now Canada?

01:50:36.000 What?

01:50:37.000 What do they do?

01:50:38.000 What's Canada doing?

01:50:39.000 They're doing nothing.

01:50:39.000 Okay?

01:50:40.000 So I can change with that.

01:50:41.000 I don't need a plan like Canada.

01:50:41.000 Alright?

01:50:43.000 It worked for a time.

01:50:44.000 It doesn't work now.

01:50:45.000 I am going to do so much, Ben.

01:50:47.000 I am going to do so much for healthcare.

01:50:49.000 You're a servant.

01:50:50.000 I'm your guy.

01:50:51.000 Good enough for me.

01:50:56.000 This has been Dr.

01:50:57.000 Ben Carson contemplates endorsing Donald Trump.

01:51:01.000 Ben Carson: Hey, if you're listening to or watching this podcast, there's a strong chance that you are not yet following me on Twitter at SCrowder, where I'm tweeting all day long.

01:51:17.000 I'm ticking off the social justice warriors.

01:51:19.000 You should see the amount of hate I get on there. 0.95

01:51:22.000 Far, far, far worse than any fat Sports Illustrated model or Black Lives Matter charlatan. 1.00

01:51:27.000 So listen, it's free. 0.90

01:51:28.000 You get to be entertained and you can chime in.

01:51:30.000 Also, if you're following me on Twitter, you can send me your tweets and maybe you'll be lucky enough.

01:51:35.000 And I mean lucky enough because I have a lot of followers, okay, that they call me the follower machine to have your tweet to me or not gay Jared included in our rockinest tweet of the week. 0.73

01:51:46.000 So follow me on Twitter at escrowder.

01:51:49.000 If not, I don't want to say I have sights on your mother, but...

01:51:53.000 Oh, she's dead? 0.97

01:51:56.000 You're just saying that because I made a mom joke.

01:51:57.000 No, she's really dead? 0.75

01:51:58.000 then, well, you kind of walked into it.

01:52:06.000 I'm going to do the things that I want to do.

01:52:11.000 I ain't got a thing to prove to you.

01:52:15.000 I ain't going to wear the clothes that you like.

01:52:19.000 I don't give a hoot about what you think.

01:52:23.000 All right.

01:52:25.000 Before I bring on our next guest, who is a regular, someone tweeted me, Stephen, watching your show on YouTube, what would be your response to people who say that Trump is Hitler? 0.96

01:52:33.000 That's just silly. 0.98

01:52:35.000 It's just silly. 0.90

01:52:36.000 Listen, I don't have to... 0.68

01:52:37.000 Trump doesn't have to be my guy to defend him from baseless attacks.

01:52:40.000 Just like I don't have to like John Kasich to say, don't lie about the fact that Soros gave him a bag of cash.

01:52:45.000 That's also not true.

01:52:47.000 So, I just think truth...

01:52:48.000 I don't know.

01:52:48.000 I just think truth matters more than all of this.

01:52:51.000 And I think all around...

01:52:52.000 My old-fashioned hippie, you. 0.99

01:52:53.000 My old-fashioned hippie.

01:52:53.000 Okay, we have to bring on our next guest.

01:52:55.000 And when you hear this, you know.

01:52:56.000 That means that it's at Courtney Scoffs on Twitter.

01:53:09.000 Courtney Kirchhoff, are you with us?

01:53:11.000 Oh, yes.

01:53:12.000 Oh, look at you!

01:53:13.000 You're all tanned.

01:53:14.000 That's true.

01:53:15.000 From the vacation.

01:53:17.000 Hawaii.

01:53:17.000 That's right.

01:53:18.000 Hawaii.

01:53:18.000 People comment every week how they look like a ghost.

01:53:21.000 You?

01:53:21.000 Yeah.

01:53:22.000 I try to blame the white balance.

01:53:24.000 I just haven't figured it out yet.

01:53:26.000 No, really, he has no soul.

01:53:28.000 There you go.

01:53:28.000 That's true.

01:53:29.000 Oh, Courtney, and we don't even have to tell her to smile because she already is.

01:53:32.000 Look at that.

01:53:33.000 Okay, we pulled that.

01:53:34.000 Do you think that's sexist when people say, hey, Hillary, you should probably smile more?

01:53:37.000 If a guy says, hey, you have a pretty smile, you should smile more.

01:53:40.000 That's nice.

01:53:41.000 I like it when people tell me I have a pretty smile.

01:53:43.000 Even if it's a guy.

01:53:44.000 Okay.

01:53:45.000 There you go.

01:53:46.000 Right from her.

01:53:47.000 Speaking of guys, you penned a letter this week from a female perspective to Bernie Sanders. 0.85

01:53:53.000 I've written about this several times from a male perspective, and then we got on the phone, and you went into a rant, and I said, this needs a female perspective.

01:54:00.000 So, it's called, what do I have it?

01:54:02.000 Dear Men Who Vote Bernie Sanders, You're Not Men At All.

01:54:06.000 And you received so much hate mail.

01:54:11.000 I did, from a lot of men who somehow were trying to defend their manhood by saying, no, but really, I am a man.

01:54:18.000 Just because I want Bernie Sanders doesn't mean I'm not a man.

01:54:21.000 I'm like, okay, I'm not even going to give that a response.

01:54:25.000 I only have time for real men if I'm going to respond to a tweet or a Facebook message or an email.

01:54:32.000 No, no, no.

01:54:33.000 I even had some wives, like, well, my husband works, he's full-time, and he volunteers, but he's voting for Bernie Sanders, and how dare you?

01:54:41.000 Really?

01:54:42.000 Yeah, I don't think your husband's volunteering. 0.99

01:54:44.000 I think you can go on down to the local gay bar and find him ducking you. 1.00

01:54:48.000 That's what I think. 0.87

01:54:49.000 Okay, so you wrote this, and I've talked about this.

01:54:51.000 I don't believe that in 2016 you can be a man and be an actual full-fledged progressive.

01:54:57.000 I don't mean be kind of like a liberal, maybe pro-abortioner thing.

01:55:03.000 I mean full-on Bernie socialist.

01:55:05.000 I've written about that.

01:55:06.000 What was your main point here in this article that people hated you so much?

01:55:13.000 Well, the idea that men have to provide for themselves and provide for their family, I can see myself on the camera and it's very distracting.

01:55:22.000 Because she's so good looking, that's why. 1.00

01:55:25.000 I got this tan, I got the vitamin D... Watch, this is going to become a GIF, and then everyone, the rumors of being gay.

01:55:32.000 Do it again, full shot.

01:55:33.000 There, yeah.

01:55:34.000 All right, go ahead, Courtney.

01:55:35.000 Try not to be distracted.

01:55:37.000 Yeah, men don't need other men to provide for them or their families. 1.00

01:55:42.000 They also don't need a politician to demand that other people give, no, demand that their tax dollars be taken to give to other people who refuse to work for them.

01:55:53.000 To work for themselves.

01:55:54.000 So real men provide for themselves, provide for their families. 0.99

01:55:58.000 They don't whine.

01:55:59.000 They don't say it's not fair that so-and-so has more.

01:56:02.000 They don't excuse why they're not successful or blame it on white privilege.

01:56:06.000 They don't do that. 0.99

01:56:07.000 They say, screw it.

01:56:09.000 I see a challenge. 0.63

01:56:10.000 Challenge accepted.

01:56:11.000 I'm going to go for it.

01:56:12.000 I'm All of these things that I have going against me.

01:56:17.000 Bernie Sanders voters don't do that. 0.66

01:56:20.000 They believe Barack Obama.

01:56:21.000 They believe Bernie Sanders when they say, oh, the deck is stacked against you.

01:56:25.000 You didn't build that.

01:56:26.000 We can help you.

01:56:28.000 You deserve your fair share.

01:56:30.000 And these rich people who've just glided through life, they're going to pay for you.

01:56:36.000 It's okay.

01:56:37.000 We're going to take care of you.

01:56:38.000 That's not a man. 1.00

01:56:39.000 That's a pussy. 1.00

01:56:41.000 And I'm not sorry. 1.00

01:56:41.000 Right? 1.00

01:56:42.000 I'm not sorry.

01:56:44.000 I don't think we have to beep that.

01:56:46.000 No, I think it's only if I'm referring to the anatomy.

01:56:49.000 Yeah, stop it.

01:56:50.000 Stop it, because I know Courtney will go there. 0.99

01:56:52.000 She's a lady, but she's a lady who's willing. 0.71

01:56:55.000 She will go there.

01:56:56.000 And I don't want her to go there right now.

01:56:58.000 Yeah, I agree with you.

01:56:59.000 I agree with you.

01:57:00.000 And I just don't have a lot in common with guys like that.

01:57:03.000 And I think you can have it with wealthy people, too.

01:57:06.000 I mean, I think you see that with rich guys who really have to prove because some things have been handed to them as opposed to people who are self-built.

01:57:11.000 But particularly, it is the ideology of a Bernie voter.

01:57:14.000 To subscribe to it, you have to believe that someone else is pulling the strings and it's not in your control.

01:57:20.000 And I just see that as anti-rugged individualist.

01:57:24.000 But as a woman, does it actually, like, could you ever date a leftist?

01:57:32.000 I don't think so.

01:57:34.000 No.

01:57:36.000 You choked on your words.

01:57:38.000 If I were to see a guy pull up in a Prius with a Bernie Sanders sticker or a Darwin fish instead of the Jesus fish, we're done.

01:57:47.000 Really?

01:57:47.000 We're done.

01:57:48.000 Yeah, I couldn't.

01:57:50.000 And it's not anything against people who drive Priuses.

01:57:52.000 Some people like the car.

01:57:53.000 No, nobody likes the car.

01:57:53.000 Fine, but...

01:57:55.000 If you're a people pleaser and you want people to like you and you want everybody to know how much you care for the poor or whatever, I can't.

01:58:02.000 I can't.

01:58:03.000 It's gross.

01:58:04.000 Well, you want someone who cares for the poor.

01:58:05.000 You just don't want someone who advertises it to pick up checks.

01:58:08.000 Hey, look it.

01:58:09.000 If you care for the poor, great.

01:58:11.000 Care for the poor with your own money.

01:58:12.000 Don't mandate other people's money.

01:58:15.000 Go to something that you feel like it's...

01:58:16.000 It's not charity.

01:58:17.000 It's not.

01:58:19.000 Yeah, and I love how they separate that as a fiscal issue.

01:58:23.000 Well, isn't theft kind of a moral issue?

01:58:25.000 Wouldn't we put that on that side of the ledger?

01:58:28.000 Yeah, it's interesting to hear a woman say that, because my dad and I have talked about that as men.

01:58:32.000 But now, is this something that I know when we write about these things, sometimes we think up ideas for columns.

01:58:37.000 Is this something that has been percolating for a while?

01:58:39.000 You've always felt that way, and it was just sort of cathartic to put it to paper, or was it an aha epiphany?

01:58:45.000 No, I've always thought this.

01:58:46.000 I kind of think liberal man is an oxymoron.

01:58:49.000 I don't think you can be a liberal and be a man.

01:58:53.000 And I mean that in a masculine.

01:58:56.000 You can't be masculine.

01:58:57.000 You can be a male adult, but I don't think of you as being masculine if...

01:59:02.000 If you espouse liberal ideas, and if you live by the liberal ideas, there are a lot of successful men, successful people who say liberal things, but they don't.

01:59:12.000 They aren't liberal in their own lives.

01:59:14.000 They're conservative in their own lives.

01:59:15.000 They're men in their own lives.

01:59:17.000 But if you can just, if you just even, no, I don't.

01:59:20.000 That was a long way around to express her disgust.

01:59:23.000 But that's true.

01:59:25.000 Greg Gutfeld made that point, that anyone who's successful had to do so through the pillars of conservatism, of taking it upon themselves and personal responsibility.

01:59:33.000 I wish I could find that, but Greg Gutfeld, Google it.

01:59:36.000 At Prager University.

01:59:37.000 At Prager University.

01:59:38.000 Guy does some great stuff.

01:59:39.000 Okay, Courtney, we'll bring you on after this break to anger some more men and maybe find some suitors. 1.00

01:59:44.000 Louder with Crowder.

01:59:45.000 Stay tuned for more Courtney.

01:59:47.000 This is Jesse, former governor of Minnesota Ventura here.

02:00:13.000 The bod with the facts talking again about the GOP establishment acts who have been rumored to maybe even try and trot out Jeb Bush on a brokered convention.

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02:00:48.000 But the good news is that you can fix your child's problem with some syrup that I sell at jessevandroit.com.

02:00:56.000 Know the facts.

02:00:59.000 Steven Crowder here.

02:01:01.000 Hey, Jared, what are you doing?

02:01:02.000 I'm just having trouble getting through this book.

02:01:04.000 That's because you can't read.

02:01:05.000 I know.

02:01:06.000 You should have used Freedom Project Academy.

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02:01:50.000 Now, do you have your GED equivalency, Jared?

02:01:52.000 No, is that important?

02:01:53.000 I think so.

02:01:54.000 I mean, you might want to give him a call.

02:01:55.000 That's Freedom Project Academy at FPEUSA.org.

02:02:00.000 I see that action over there.

02:02:21.000 I don't like.

02:02:23.000 I do it for our guest, Courtney, at CourtneyScoffs on Twitter.

02:02:28.000 For those who don't know, I was flexing my pecs.

02:02:30.000 Because listen, she's not dating anybody.

02:02:31.000 It's the closest thing that she gets to a little bit of fun.

02:02:35.000 You're welcome.

02:02:38.000 I'll send a text to Hillary later and say, you know, the nice things that you do.

02:02:43.000 Flexing my pecs.

02:02:45.000 Yes, that's something that I do on my own time.

02:02:48.000 It's a skill like anyone else.

02:02:50.000 I'm sure.

02:02:51.000 I'm sure.

02:02:52.000 Sometimes you do it on my time.

02:02:53.000 Lauren Southern already got the gif up of me being gay. 1.00

02:02:56.000 She is so quick.

02:02:56.000 Right away.

02:02:59.000 Everyone's trying to set up, you know, my friend Gerald Morgan, we've had him on the show.

02:03:02.000 They're always going, like, in my family, they're going, what about Courtney?

02:03:04.000 What about Lauren?

02:03:06.000 Because they're like, you know, he's conservative, these women are conservative, and it's just they're always, every time, I got, like, three comments, same thing with you. 0.97

02:03:13.000 I think you and Gerald will hit it off, but, you know, you're a Catholic and he's not. 0.99

02:03:16.000 So there's that.

02:03:18.000 I've never talked to Gerald.

02:03:20.000 Gerald's a good guy, but he's a pretty brilliant guy when it comes to theology.

02:03:25.000 And he went to Notre Dame, and he is not a Catholic.

02:03:27.000 He doesn't hate Catholics, but he will argue why it's wrong. 0.89

02:03:30.000 And he is very good at it.

02:03:33.000 So that's why it might be tough.

02:03:34.000 Or he might challenge you, and you guys might have a great conversation.

02:03:37.000 Maybe you convert him, and next thing you know, he's like screaming for the Pope, like the Beatles fans, when it comes stateside.

02:03:44.000 You've written about the Pope quite a bit.

02:03:45.000 You've been pretty peeved with him.

02:03:48.000 Yeah, there have been a few times just like, really?

02:03:50.000 Seriously?

02:03:51.000 There's plenty of other things that we could discuss.

02:03:55.000 Global warming, we're going to do that?

02:03:57.000 Really?

02:03:58.000 I think we need a segment called Really Seriously with Courtney Scoffs. 1.00

02:04:01.000 Really?

02:04:01.000 Seriously?

02:04:03.000 Why not?

02:04:04.000 Seth Meyers had a segment called Really.

02:04:05.000 But I think ours would be better, because I mean, it's Courtney Scoffs. 0.59

02:04:09.000 Well, it's like Seth Meyers, and you add breasts, and you add a woman, and you add intelligence, and you add breasts.

02:04:18.000 I like that in this day and age you have to include adding a woman after adding breasts because breasts anymore don't mean that you're a woman.

02:04:26.000 Well, that was going to be my question because you said, you know, it's anti-rugged individualist New Bernie voters.

02:04:30.000 So what about Caitlyn Jenner? 0.99

02:04:33.000 I mean, she still has a penis, of course. 1.00

02:04:34.000 And... 1.00

02:04:35.000 Said that we need to get back to constitutionalism, likes Ted Cruz.

02:04:38.000 Would you say that Caitlyn Jenner in a twisted turn of events is more of a man?

02:04:47.000 Caitlyn Jenner is more masculine as a faux woman than Bernie Sanders voters? 1.00

02:04:54.000 Man, I don't know, because he's...

02:04:56.000 He's kind of forged his own path.

02:04:58.000 He's made his own money.

02:04:59.000 He's not demanding that other people give.

02:05:03.000 He's not demanding that everyone pay their fair share.

02:05:07.000 You know, he wears a dress. 0.99

02:05:09.000 Well, and he got boobs. 1.00

02:05:10.000 Did he get boobs or did he just press it together? 0.97

02:05:12.000 He forged those as well. 0.99

02:05:14.000 Did he actually buy breasts or is he just pushing them? 0.65

02:05:16.000 No, I think he bought them.

02:05:18.000 Courtney, can you confirm?

02:05:18.000 He's got the money.

02:05:19.000 Do you know?

02:05:20.000 I have not looked into this.

02:05:24.000 My hands have been here for way too long.

02:05:25.000 That's true.

02:05:26.000 There's a gif there.

02:05:27.000 That's happening.

02:05:28.000 It's the episode of Seinfeld.

02:05:30.000 Are they not?

02:05:30.000 Are they real?

02:05:31.000 Are they not real?

02:05:31.000 Jerry, I gotta know.

02:05:32.000 Yeah.

02:05:33.000 No, I don't.

02:05:33.000 Anyway, but it still has the bottom.

02:05:34.000 Most transsexuals do not do the bottom surgery. 1.00

02:05:37.000 So, okay.

02:05:39.000 So you wrote about this.

02:05:40.000 You got a lot of hate mail.

02:05:42.000 Mm-hmm.

02:05:44.000 From a lot of men.

02:05:45.000 I got a lot of hate mail for Beyonce, too.

02:05:47.000 Did you get a lot of hate mail from women for your article, actually? 1.00

02:05:49.000 That's interesting. 0.97

02:05:50.000 So you get a lot of hate mail from gay men. 1.00

02:05:52.000 From gay black men. 1.00

02:05:53.000 Gay black men. 0.99

02:05:54.000 Continue. 1.00

02:05:54.000 For Beyonce. 1.00

02:05:55.000 It's just DeRay with a bunch of fake accounts.

02:05:59.000 It was, ironically, a bunch of people calling me ugly, and they were using, like, eggs, the egg Twitter.

02:06:05.000 Oh, well, they haven't really filled it out.

02:06:07.000 They haven't, yeah, or Beyonce, and they were calling me ugly.

02:06:10.000 Like, okay, really?

02:06:11.000 All right.

02:06:12.000 Really?

02:06:12.000 Seriously?

02:06:13.000 So the guy looks like an egg. 0.58

02:06:15.000 Yeah, I have gotten a lot of hate mail from guys saying that, you know, how dare I? You know, I'm a cave woman.

02:06:21.000 How dare I say that they're not men?

02:06:24.000 And again, I say, it just goes to my point.

02:06:27.000 How dare you?

02:06:29.000 How dare you! 0.99

02:06:30.000 Exactly.

02:06:31.000 I thought you were cuing me for that.

02:06:33.000 Oh, okay.

02:06:33.000 I was.

02:06:34.000 There you go.

02:06:35.000 So, it's guys who got mad, not women. 0.94

02:06:39.000 Some women, some wives. 1.00

02:06:40.000 Some wives. 0.99

02:06:41.000 I want to say like three, maybe three women.

02:06:45.000 But majority has been men.

02:06:47.000 I think it's one of those things, like you said, even if there are some successful people who try and espouse leftism, they don't live that way.

02:06:54.000 I think it's probably the same with a lot of women. 1.00

02:06:56.000 Even though they claim they like a progressive guy and they like the guy with the handlebar mustache and the Bernie sticker, they don't really want a guy who when something goes bump in the night, he's hiding in the closet and shoving her down the stairs like it's a Lifetime movie and she's pregnant.

02:07:10.000 Well, here's one of the reasons I don't like feminism. 1.00

02:07:12.000 I think it's unfair to men because feminists have said, well, they want this certain type of guy. 1.00

02:07:17.000 They've said that they want, as women, to take the lead. 0.88

02:07:21.000 That's unfortunate because that's not what they actually want.

02:07:25.000 Bro tip to the guys out there, a lot of times women don't actually know what they want until they see it. 0.53

02:07:29.000 And I know, I'm sorry, I apologize for my gender, we don't always know.

02:07:33.000 So women like men who are strong, they like men who take direction, they like men who make decisions, they like men who are decisive.

02:07:41.000 That doesn't mean that they're going to beat you over the head and drag them into the cave.

02:07:45.000 That just means that they're good hunter-gatherers.

02:07:47.000 They're good providers.

02:07:48.000 Women are hardwired to want that. 1.00

02:07:52.000 So Bernie Sanders voters who are whiny and wimpy and they, I want my fair share. 0.97

02:07:58.000 I just, you know, white privilege. 0.93

02:07:59.000 I don't have it and I don't think it's fair.

02:08:02.000 So on a scale from Jared's social justice friend, hipster, feminist, you know, who wants to check his privilege for you.

02:08:02.000 It's just...

02:08:12.000 Well, I don't know about that.

02:08:13.000 All the way to the scale of, you know, Donald Trump. 1.00

02:08:15.000 You need to treat women like crap. 1.00

02:08:18.000 Where do you fall on that scale? 1.00

02:08:20.000 You've heard that quote, right?

02:08:22.000 You've got to treat him like, shh, that's what Donald Trump said.

02:08:25.000 I don't think that should be used against him.

02:08:27.000 How many times has Donald Trump been married?

02:08:31.000 Three.

02:08:31.000 Yeah, that might answer your question.

02:08:33.000 Yeah, well, he cheated on them.

02:08:35.000 He slept with other men's wives as well.

02:08:38.000 So there is that.

02:08:39.000 So I think that's important, though, to note, because a lot of people think, well, you're just...

02:08:42.000 No, we're not saying you need a trash bag either.

02:08:45.000 That's not masculine.

02:08:46.000 No, there's a big difference between...

02:08:49.000 You don't need a trash bag. 1.00

02:08:50.000 There's a difference between being a leader and being a jerk. 1.00

02:08:54.000 There's a difference between being decisive and being a... 0.99

02:08:57.000 I can't say it.

02:08:59.000 You can't...

02:09:01.000 Being a man doesn't mean that you're just bossy and asserting your manliness all the time.

02:09:07.000 It means you're confident in yourself.

02:09:08.000 You respect yourself.

02:09:09.000 As a matter of fact, men who have to assert their manliness generally are very scared.

02:09:13.000 They're overcompensating.

02:09:14.000 Yeah, and they're overcompensating.

02:09:15.000 If anyone says, you know, aren't I powerful?

02:09:18.000 Don't you think I'm powerful?

02:09:19.000 Aren't I strong?

02:09:20.000 That's a guy who has some issues and a guy who's probably never been in a real conflict. 0.96

02:09:26.000 And I think it's important to note that because you have a lot of people who will go too far the other way and thinking you treat women like crap or think this false sense of machismo. 0.96

02:09:37.000 And that's overcompensating. 0.98

02:09:39.000 Yes, exactly. 0.99

02:09:40.000 I mean, there are men who can just chug beer and burp and swear and hunt, and their families are falling apart, and their kids are losers, and their wives hate them. 0.99

02:09:48.000 That's not a man.

02:09:49.000 And you can have a computer nerd who's very strong and people do well, and there's leadership.

02:09:52.000 Right.

02:09:54.000 And I know we agree with that on principle, but I just want for people out there who hear this, she just wants to bully.

02:09:59.000 You don't want some douchey bro in an affliction rhinestone t-shirt with a fake tan.

02:10:05.000 No.

02:10:06.000 And I was very careful in my article to define what I believe is masculinity. 0.89

02:10:11.000 I didn't say someone who's gross.

02:10:12.000 It's not someone who goes to the bar, drinks a bunch of beer, throws some shots, burps. 0.98

02:10:18.000 That's gross.

02:10:20.000 And masculinity isn't gross.

02:10:20.000 Right.

02:10:22.000 It's...

02:10:24.000 It's complementarianism.

02:10:25.000 I mean, as Christians, what people talk about, men and women complement each other.

02:10:28.000 They need each other.

02:10:29.000 Right.

02:10:30.000 And to deny that, again, is just like to deny the evolutionary, the biological evolutionary mechanism of...

02:10:37.000 Generalizations that people make, and people try and make you feel guilty for making generalizations.

02:10:41.000 I mean, it's a generalization for a man to open a door for a woman, because, hey, I'm stronger, I'm a man, it's easier for me, and it's respectful to a woman.

02:10:48.000 Those same people deny the hard wiring that men and women are different, and we should use that synergy to complement each other.

02:10:56.000 And that's, I think, why feminism is so corrosive to society for women in particular. 1.00

02:11:02.000 Well, and feminists aren't happy either. 1.00

02:11:05.000 They should smile.

02:11:06.000 They should smile.

02:11:08.000 Can they? 0.91

02:11:09.000 I mean, they're just miserable all the time.

02:11:11.000 And sometimes what I try to ask people when I try to define for myself, what do I want?

02:11:15.000 Do I want to be right?

02:11:16.000 Do I want to be powerful?

02:11:17.000 Do I want to be control?

02:11:18.000 Or do I want to be happy?

02:11:19.000 Right.

02:11:21.000 have all of those things.

02:11:22.000 So we have to decide as women and as men, what's more important.

02:11:26.000 Are we going to be right?

02:11:28.000 Are we going to be happy?

02:11:28.000 Do we need to have that big, powerful career?

02:11:30.000 Is that going to make you happy?

02:11:32.000 Because a lot of women, they go for that. 1.00

02:11:35.000 And when they're about 40, they don't have a family.

02:11:37.000 They're not happy.

02:11:38.000 No.

02:11:39.000 So.

02:11:41.000 That's true. 0.99

02:11:42.000 They've done everything feminism has told them to do, and they're miserable. 0.98

02:11:45.000 Right. 0.95

02:11:46.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

02:11:47.000 And you can't have it all.

02:11:49.000 I mean, my wife and I, you know, we don't have children, and so she works a lot, and I work a lot.

02:11:52.000 And we know that it's not balanced, and eventually we're going to have to remedy that, particularly if we have kids.

02:11:57.000 That's why we're doing it now, so that she can stay home.

02:11:59.000 That's been our plan for a long time.

02:12:01.000 I mean, she wouldn't have to work as much, but she's worked for this, you know, basically she's in a top position at a company where It would take a long time to fill this role, and she has equity in a company.

02:12:11.000 She's very successful, and she can't stand feminists. 1.00

02:12:14.000 But yeah, that's a good point.

02:12:16.000 And you're a working woman, too, which is why it's so interesting coming from you, because people can't say that you're barefoot in the kitchen pregnant.

02:12:24.000 Yeah, but I'm working because I have to.

02:12:27.000 I never wanted to be a career woman. 0.51

02:12:29.000 What?

02:12:29.000 That was never in my plan.

02:12:31.000 No, it was never a plan.

02:12:32.000 She hates working for me. 0.71

02:12:33.000 Do you hear this in my kitchen?

02:12:34.000 No.

02:12:35.000 Gotcha. 0.76

02:12:36.000 Not gay Jared knows what we put up with, with you sometimes. 1.00

02:12:40.000 And it's not, and I love working for you, but I would, I wanted to be the mom and the wife.

02:12:45.000 I love this man.

02:12:46.000 And I will go to the hill, Calvary, and back with him to get my next paycheck.

02:12:54.000 Yeah.

02:12:55.000 Yeah.

02:12:56.000 Okay.

02:12:57.000 This has gotten uncomfortable.

02:12:58.000 Because Courtney can be mean. 1.00

02:13:02.000 Not gay, Jared. 1.00

02:13:03.000 You just cower in fear. 0.99

02:13:05.000 Yes, sir.

02:13:06.000 Yeah, she does.

02:13:07.000 That's what she does. 1.00

02:13:09.000 Which is funny, he's not a Bernie voter.

02:13:11.000 No, it's one of those things where I think if people really read the article and they understand where you're coming from, there is a lot of insight to take from it.

02:13:20.000 And I think a lot of women are coming to the realization, we just talked with Lauren Southern, I think a lot of women unfortunately come to it a little bit late.

02:13:26.000 They come to it in their mid-30s and their window has passed, and all of a sudden they realize that the guys who were white knighting and supporting their blue hair, wild boar-like features at the Feminist Film Festival, all of a sudden they're not around anymore because they found wives.

02:13:42.000 And it's sad.

02:13:44.000 What?

02:13:45.000 Why are you laughing?

02:13:46.000 Wild boar, because it's funny.

02:13:47.000 I've got that mental image.

02:13:49.000 They do. 0.99

02:13:50.000 Feminists remind me of wild boar. 1.00

02:13:52.000 Well, they're fat, and they're prickly. 1.00

02:13:55.000 They're prickly like wild boar. 0.80

02:13:57.000 They don't shake.

02:13:58.000 They don't wax.

02:13:59.000 I don't get that.

02:14:00.000 I don't understand that.

02:14:00.000 How is that oppression?

02:14:01.000 Can you explain that to me as a woman?

02:14:03.000 How could any woman see that as oppression? 1.00

02:14:07.000 Oh, because they believe that beauty is only for other men.

02:14:12.000 Now, what women find attractive is not necessarily looks in men, it's their success.

02:14:17.000 And men don't have any problem being successful, nor do women have any problem telling them to be successful.

02:14:22.000 But for a man to say, I like a woman who doesn't have hairy blue armpits, that's, in the mind of a feminist, oppression. 1.00

02:14:30.000 Patriarchy. 0.93

02:14:31.000 It is the patriarchy. 0.99

02:14:32.000 Hairy blue armpits. 0.87

02:14:34.000 You're taking more effort to not...

02:14:37.000 Your anti-hygiene requires more effort than just basic hygiene.

02:14:42.000 And I want to know why blue.

02:14:43.000 And who thought of it?

02:14:45.000 Who thought, you know what would be a great idea?

02:14:46.000 Is to grow out my armpit hair super long and dye it a rainbow color.

02:14:52.000 Someone thought of it.

02:14:53.000 I'm going to go with Lena Dunham.

02:14:55.000 I'm going to go with Lena Dunham.

02:14:56.000 Yeah.

02:14:56.000 As she was sitting on the toilet eating cake.

02:14:58.000 Oh my gosh.

02:14:59.000 What kind of thoughts do you have when you're doing that?

02:15:01.000 Only gross ones.

02:15:03.000 Yeah, there's nothing good can come of that.

02:15:04.000 That's one of those things.

02:15:05.000 I don't blame women for being women. 1.00

02:15:07.000 Men should stop being blamed for being men.

02:15:09.000 If a man says, you know, it'd be nicer if you smiled more.

02:15:12.000 That's not someone who hates you.

02:15:13.000 Just like if a woman says, hey, why don't you get off the couch and go do something? 1.00

02:15:17.000 That's not a woman who hates a man. 1.00

02:15:19.000 That's trying to better someone, which you should be doing for yourself.

02:15:22.000 Alright, so, Courtney, at Courtney Scoffs, you're going to have some tweets here.

02:15:28.000 No, some people are probably going to want to date you, so let's follow up on that.

02:15:31.000 Well, I've actually had a lot of guys say, hey, it was funny, I need to take a screen capture, because I'll have one tweet that says, how dare you, or they call me a secret.

02:15:38.000 We have to go.

02:15:39.000 We have to go.

02:15:40.000 Okay, Courtney Scoffs, if you want to date her, we'll air it next. 0.98

02:15:40.000 Oh, no. 0.98

02:15:44.000 Stay tuned.

02:15:44.000 And now, Dr. Blankton. Dr. Blankton.

02:16:07.000 Ben Carson contemplates endorsing Donald Trump.

02:16:12.000 Of course, there's also the matter, Mr.

02:16:14.000 Trump, that you've been somewhat divisive in your language.

02:16:18.000 And I understand that as a political tactic.

02:16:22.000 But as Christians, we are called to be good to one another and to uplift each other.

02:16:28.000 And I need to believe that you will do that as president of this great country that I so love.

02:16:36.000 Who's been more uniting than me, okay?

02:16:38.000 Everyone is going to be so united, okay?

02:16:40.000 I don't talk bad about anybody, okay?

02:16:42.000 I make friends with everybody, okay?

02:16:44.000 Everyone, they call me the friend-making machine. 0.97

02:16:46.000 You then call Megyn Kelly a bimbo, and Ted Cruz a liar, and me a pedophile. 1.00

02:16:54.000 Okay, listen, Megyn Kelly is a bimbo, Ted Cruz is a liar, the pedophile thing, listen, okay? 1.00

02:17:00.000 It's politics, okay? 1.00

02:17:01.000 I don't know what you do. 1.00

02:17:02.000 Listen, are you having sex with little kids? 1.00

02:17:03.000 I don't think so. 1.00

02:17:04.000 I don't know, okay?

02:17:05.000 Nobody can know.

02:17:07.000 All right, so it's not wrong.

02:17:08.000 I'm not going to apologize for not being wrong.

02:17:11.000 I suppose you have a point.

02:17:16.000 This has been Dr.

02:17:17.000 Ben Carson contemplates endorsing Donald Trump.

02:17:24.000 This is breaking news on "Lowder with Crowder." I'm Perry Matheson.

02:17:41.000 We take you now to a Republican Party currently underway.

02:17:47.000 Boy, what a night.

02:17:48.000 I really tuckered myself out.

02:17:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:17:54.000 So, um, do you need a lift?

02:17:56.000 Do you need us to call you a cab?

02:17:57.000 Oh, no.

02:17:57.000 I got my own car.

02:17:59.000 I can get home just fine.

02:18:00.000 Okay, well, you know, we're just picking up here.

02:18:03.000 There's not a lot left to...

02:18:05.000 Yeah, you know, I'd offer to help, but with the IBS and all.

02:18:09.000 Hey, does anyone want to play a game of Jenga?

02:18:11.000 Why are you still here?

02:18:12.000 We'll keep you updated as the Republican Party progresses after that.

02:18:19.000 We'll be right back.

02:18:48.000 We'll be right back.

02:18:59.000 I was going to try and throw a knife at Jared in the studio, and I couldn't find my knife. 1.00

02:19:03.000 Darn it, not gay Jared. 1.00

02:19:04.000 You got the better of me. 1.00

02:19:05.000 Well, that's a first.

02:19:06.000 You couldn't find it.

02:19:06.000 It hurt last time.

02:19:07.000 All right, go to New York to find a tweet, if you haven't found it yet.

02:19:10.000 Okay, so we're going to wrap this program up.

02:19:10.000 All right, I will do that.

02:19:12.000 We're going to have Rock and his tweet of the show, which you can send to me at Ask Crowder on Twitter.

02:19:16.000 Of course, louderwithcrowder.com is where you can go for the podcast archives or the video if you're listening to Rest, really.

02:19:22.000 Man, it has been a busy week.

02:19:28.000 I don't know if I'm the only one who's just exhausted with the process.

02:19:31.000 I think a lot of people are with the election process right now.

02:19:35.000 The fact that the last debate scandal was outpacing GOP debate I think should tell you something.

02:19:41.000 Don't be too far into the forest to see the trees, okay?

02:19:45.000 Don't overestimate the influence of the GOP primary right now.

02:19:50.000 Most people don't really care.

02:19:53.000 Most people aren't paying attention.

02:19:55.000 As a matter of fact, that's why Donald Trump, I think, is doing so well.

02:19:57.000 Most people don't really pay that much attention to primaries unless they're political hobbyists.

02:20:02.000 And Donald Trump is a guy who's had a reality show for years.

02:20:04.000 So he's already a pop culture icon.

02:20:07.000 So, of course, he's going to get a lot of press coverage, especially someone who's polarizing.

02:20:10.000 But that's an anomaly.

02:20:12.000 He's an outlier.

02:20:13.000 Outside of that exception, most people don't pay that much attention.

02:20:18.000 And I think a lot of conservatives out there and a lot of leftists, a lot of people who are canvassing for Bernie, activists, they develop an out-of-touchedness by not being aware as to the level of engagement for the average American.

02:20:31.000 Because it's not that high.

02:20:33.000 It really isn't that high.

02:20:34.000 And that's why we generate a lot of the content that we do at the website, which, you know, listen, it's not national review.

02:20:40.000 It's not going to be policy wonky.

02:20:42.000 I mean, we did this rebuttal for Vox.com with over 30 sources, I think, that have been used.

02:20:47.000 But it is important, I think, to realize that some people aren't engaged.

02:20:50.000 There need to be several steps to that ladder, and you need to provide the first one as well.

02:20:57.000 So that's what we try and do, and hopefully, maybe this election, I think Donald Trump could provide some value there, where some people who maybe haven't been engaged at least have perked up.

02:21:05.000 And said, oh, I want to pay attention to this.

02:21:07.000 And maybe it's through being offended and they listen to what he has to say and they're not all that offended.

02:21:12.000 I think Bernie Sanders has done that a lot, too.

02:21:14.000 I don't like what he says.

02:21:15.000 I think a lot of people perk up because they hear free stuff.

02:21:18.000 And I think...

02:21:21.000 Then people can evolve, and then you can talk to them about policies and ideas.

02:21:24.000 That's how it progresses.

02:21:25.000 That's how it works.

02:21:26.000 Listen, if you also want to talk about how to get young people on board, a lot of conservatives go, oh, we got the young vote, you know, because their median demo in a lot of conservative media is 72.

02:21:37.000 You appeal to their selfish motives, their libertarian motives.

02:21:39.000 A lot of people my age, a lot of people not Kay Jared's age, they love the free stuff until they realize that at some point they're going to be hit with a tab.

02:21:46.000 And when they realize that that's passed down to them, Social Security is a good example, if you can educate them on that, they can change their tune. 0.98

02:21:53.000 But if you don't, if you just tell them they're stupid, if you just tell Millennials that they're lazy and they're greedy and they suck, all of which are true, mind you, but that's the only thing you say, you don't really win the argument. 0.99

02:22:03.000 Just like if you call everybody a liar, In the primary, if every single person, if you're a Ted Cruz supporter and you call Trump, Rubio, Kasich, Christie, you called every single person a liar and Ted Cruz is the candidate, well, guess what? 1.00

02:22:15.000 When you call Hillary Clinton a liar, they're just going to say, yeah, but you called everybody else a liar. 0.54

02:22:18.000 Same thing with Donald Trump. 0.99

02:22:19.000 If you call everyone else a liar and you get to that general and he goes, Hillary Clinton's a liar, well, yeah, but you say everyone's a liar. 0.97

02:22:25.000 It doesn't work anymore.

02:22:27.000 So, be prudent in the arguments that you present.

02:22:31.000 It is time, as we wrap up the show, to go to I don't like John Kasich.

02:23:00.000 I don't like him at all.

02:23:01.000 But...

02:23:02.000 You don't want to beat him with a lie, saying that Soros is his pal.

02:23:06.000 Maybe I've missed something, but I have the article up from Daily Caller, and it was a certain amount from an associate who's been a longtime Republican donor.

02:23:13.000 I probably don't like this guy who's a longtime Republican donor.

02:23:15.000 My guess is he probably gave to people like McCain and people like McConnell, and he would probably be more establishment.

02:23:20.000 But listen, if you want to beat someone, don't just beat them on a lie, okay?

02:23:24.000 Leftists do that, and I know some conservatives say it's time to just do that.

02:23:28.000 You can.

02:23:29.000 I can understand the justification.

02:23:30.000 It's not something I want to do.

02:23:33.000 Learn that words matter, that truth matters.

02:23:35.000 Learn how to establish meanings.

02:23:38.000 You know, if someone throws out an umbrella term right away, if someone says something and you go, what does that mean?

02:23:43.000 If someone says establishment, or if someone says mass shooting and that doesn't define it, if someone just says, oh, patriarchy, if ever in your head you're thinking, what does that mean? 0.98

02:23:52.000 A lot of the time we're shy, we're quiet because we're afraid of sounding stupid. 0.99

02:23:57.000 It's actually less stupid to just say, what do you mean by that? 0.99

02:24:01.000 Can you define what you mean by patriarchy? 0.98

02:24:03.000 Can you define establishment for me? 1.00

02:24:06.000 You won't sound stupid. 1.00

02:24:07.000 The answer will be stupid. 1.00

02:24:09.000 So ask questions. 1.00

02:24:10.000 Define the words.

02:24:11.000 Light it with Crowder.

Louder with Crowder - March 17, 2016

#66 Mike Ward, Lauren Southern, and Kasich Sucks | Louder With Crowder

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