Louder with Crowder - #70 GIMME YOUR STUFF! Julie Borowski, Ed Morrissey and SooperMexican | Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:13.000 Civility.

00:00:13.000 Politics.

00:00:14.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

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00:00:17.000 I don't like entertainment.

00:00:19.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:00:22.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:00:24.000 If you have a very unhealthy body, you should have a horrible body image.

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00:00:32.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal. 0.97

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00:00:39.000 You're getting louder with Crowder.

00:00:43.000 But you're a strange animal I've got to follow A woman that's speedy to sound That sound means it's the sound of the weekend. 1.00

00:00:58.000 Glad to be with you.

00:00:59.000 I am your host, Stephen Crowder.

00:01:01.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.98

00:01:05.000 You can follow him on Twitter at NotGayJarred.

00:01:08.000 I fulfill my legal obligations and draw your own conclusions.

00:01:11.000 We good?

00:01:11.000 We good.

00:01:12.000 Not gay and not dead. 0.78

00:01:14.000 Not dead. 0.97

00:01:16.000 Welcome to my show!

00:01:39.000 Fight for 15 is trending everywhere.

00:01:40.000 By the way, great guests.

00:01:41.000 We have Julie Borofsky, formerly token libertarian chick-on.

00:01:45.000 We have Super Mexican of TheRightScoop.com, a wonderful site.

00:01:48.000 We have Ed Morrissey with his new book talking about that.

00:01:52.000 He knows a lot about the politics, the micropolitics, how the delegates work, how the counties work.

00:01:57.000 But we actually have, and by we I mean not Gay Jared, Have an exclusive scoop this week. 0.97

00:02:04.000 It's trending everywhere.

00:02:06.000 Fight for 15.

00:02:07.000 All the Bernie voters, these people, they want $15 minimum, which specifically fast food workers.

00:02:13.000 Yes.

00:02:13.000 So, let me lay the foundation.

00:02:17.000 And, Jared, as you speak, I'll bring up these screenshots.

00:02:20.000 It's entirely fake.

00:02:22.000 People are talking about whether the idea is good or not.

00:02:24.000 It's a scam.

00:02:26.000 And...

00:02:28.000 Well, Jared, do you want to start off with what we did?

00:02:31.000 Because we were going to send Jean-Guy Tremblay, noted Bernie fan.

00:02:34.000 Bernie fan.

00:02:35.000 He was all about it.

00:02:36.000 To the fight for 15 rounds.

00:02:37.000 He was really excited to go, too, which was kind of disheartening.

00:02:40.000 Yes.

00:02:41.000 So, um...

00:02:43.000 And I have this up, so Not Gay Jared produces these things. 0.98

00:02:46.000 And I said, Not Gay Jared, we need to set this up, find out where these Fight for 15 are going. 0.90

00:02:49.000 And I have this up here on my screen where you can see.

00:02:52.000 So Not Gay Jared, what did you do?

00:02:54.000 So we signed up for the email because we thought, hey, that's the best way to stay in contact.

00:02:59.000 Yep.

00:02:59.000 We thought, hey, we want to be involved.

00:03:02.000 We want to be there, support the great cause.

00:03:04.000 Let's find out where it's going to happen and when.

00:03:07.000 It's for Zhangi, so we can inform him, so send him in. 1.00

00:03:09.000 And you signed up with emails to make sure we were secure.

00:03:14.000 No affiliation with Ladder with Crouter, so it wouldn't be screened.

00:03:18.000 So you have the screen, and they were saying, this is where you sign up to be a part of the protest.

00:03:23.000 I have screenshot one here.

00:03:24.000 Let me bring up another one.

00:03:26.000 Another screenshot.

00:03:27.000 Biggest ever global strikes and protests.

00:03:30.000 Someone saying, help us grow the fight.

00:03:32.000 Share now.

00:03:33.000 These screenshots I have here.

00:03:34.000 So these were all being sent directly to your inbox, correct?

00:03:37.000 Yes.

00:03:38.000 Lots of personal letters from McDonald's employees about doing it for their son.

00:03:38.000 Okay.

00:03:42.000 We're glad to have you along.

00:03:44.000 Doing the right thing.

00:03:45.000 Let's pull together.

00:03:46.000 Well, here it says, today we are striking in over 300 cities.

00:03:51.000 Stand strong.

00:03:52.000 Share this.

00:03:52.000 Now, we have emails here, too.

00:03:54.000 They were supposed to tell you where these were taking place.

00:03:57.000 And then eventually it said, give us your phone number and we'll text you.

00:04:01.000 So you and I were thinking this might be like a flash mob scenario, right?

00:04:05.000 Yeah, let's just gather everyone together.

00:04:07.000 Right.

00:04:07.000 Last minute.

00:04:09.000 Bomb the media.

00:04:10.000 Because you signed up for the email list.

00:04:12.000 You gave them your phone number.

00:04:14.000 Building hype for weeks.

00:04:15.000 Building hype for weeks.

00:04:16.000 And I have the text right here saying, Stay tuned.

00:04:18.000 Your message is on the way.

00:04:20.000 Work with us.

00:04:21.000 Share this.

00:04:23.000 Did they ever tell you where the protests were taking place?

00:04:27.000 Not once.

00:04:28.000 Not once.

00:04:29.000 And I couldn't find out.

00:04:30.000 I called half a dozen McDonald's specifically because they were targeting McDonald's and fast food places.

00:04:30.000 No.

00:04:35.000 Not one employee, not a single employee nor manager had heard of it.

00:04:41.000 This happened to me last time this happened.

00:04:43.000 I went to a couple of fast food places in person.

00:04:45.000 Right.

00:04:46.000 They hadn't even heard of it.

00:04:48.000 They didn't even know what I was talking about.

00:04:48.000 No.

00:04:49.000 No.

00:04:50.000 And if you look at the picture, so they trend, it's all out SEIU members, pictures of them.

00:04:55.000 They went at 6.45 a.m.

00:04:57.000 and said, you know, brothers and sisters, we'll be back later today, later tonight.

00:05:00.000 What?

00:05:01.000 Why are you protesting at 6.45 a.m.?

00:05:03.000 Photos, and then they're gone.

00:05:05.000 And they're back later.

00:05:06.000 But, I mean, unless we're missing something, we sign up for the email lists, we made the phone calls, Not Gay Jared tried, proactively, to find out where these protests are, and no answer.

00:05:19.000 I checked all over Michigan, all over Detroit, Chicago.

00:05:23.000 Chicago.

00:05:24.000 Something I found funny.

00:05:24.000 Indiana.

00:05:25.000 Their big claim is 300 cities they've gotten on board with this, right?

00:05:28.000 Mm-hmm.

00:05:29.000 300 cities.

00:05:30.000 And the text to me said, maybe this is just, you know, I'm reading too much into it, but join the thousands.

00:05:36.000 Yes.

00:05:37.000 Thousands.

00:05:37.000 So, do the math.

00:05:39.000 Let's be really aggressive.

00:05:40.000 Let's say 10,000 people, which if it was 10,000 people, they probably would have said tens of thousands of people, right?

00:05:44.000 Right.

00:05:45.000 Right.

00:05:45.000 Do the math.

00:05:46.000 300 cities, 10,000 people at the most.

00:05:49.000 That's 33 people per city.

00:05:51.000 That's not much of a movement.

00:05:52.000 Well, and the thing is, they're counting you.

00:05:54.000 They're counting me.

00:05:55.000 This is what's so dishonest.

00:05:56.000 They're counting...

00:05:57.000 I wasn't there!

00:05:58.000 ...not Gay Jared's email as one of the millions or tens of thousands...

00:06:02.000 Representing whatever city...

00:06:03.000 Representing, standing strong.

00:06:05.000 So they tell you, this is important for you to know, everyone out there, you want to talk about AstroTurf?

00:06:09.000 These are paid union protesters, most of whom do not work at these fast food establishments.

00:06:16.000 And they are claiming among their ranks, we are supported by thousands.

00:06:19.000 No, they're paying protesters, professional protesters, to show up.

00:06:22.000 Unions do this.

00:06:23.000 And they are including someone like Not Gay Jared, who they deliberately misled into signing up that he could be a part of their protest, and it was a shutout.

00:06:32.000 They do not want anyone to be a part of this.

00:06:35.000 Now, contrast this with...

00:06:37.000 The Tea Party, with the March on Washington that happened with Glenn Beck at one point, or the same thing with Jon Stewart when he did the counter protest in Washington, or even Occupy Wall Street, right?

00:06:47.000 If you're creating a genuine protest, the whole goal is to get as many people as possible to be a part of a movement.

00:06:55.000 And they did the exact opposite of this.

00:06:58.000 And I don't know if anyone else has done this.

00:06:59.000 I don't know why no one is talking about this.

00:07:01.000 We have all the emails.

00:07:02.000 We have all the texts.

00:07:03.000 If anyone wants to question us on it, we can prove it.

00:07:06.000 And remember, we planned our week around this to send Jungi out there. 0.90

00:07:09.000 We did.

00:07:09.000 We've been pulling 16-hour days and a big video coming out.

00:07:12.000 By the way, when people ask, why are you always wearing this schoolhouse rock shirt?

00:07:16.000 Foreshadowing.

00:07:20.000 And we planned our week around this, and nowhere were we able to get this information.

00:07:20.000 Dummies.

00:07:24.000 No. 0.72

00:07:25.000 And the only pictures you see are SEIU members and union members who, of course, do not work at McDonald's.

00:07:30.000 I couldn't even prove it, but there's one email you'll see.

00:07:33.000 It has all different cities sharing their photos.

00:07:36.000 And I couldn't prove it, but I would bet, I would bet you can find a lot of those photos already online from past rallies.

00:07:44.000 From past rallies.

00:07:44.000 I couldn't prove it because I didn't have enough time today.

00:07:47.000 Right.

00:07:47.000 But it would be an interesting venture in journalism there.

00:07:51.000 Well, you know, here's the crazy thing.

00:07:52.000 I'm not a journalist.

00:07:53.000 This is an entertainment-based program.

00:07:56.000 We just wanted to screw with people.

00:07:57.000 We just wanted to screw with people. 0.89

00:07:58.000 And then every now and then we stumble across these.

00:08:00.000 And we realize nobody else is doing the work.

00:08:04.000 Nobody.

00:08:05.000 CNN's not doing the work.

00:08:06.000 Fox News isn't doing the work.

00:08:07.000 They're alone.

00:08:08.000 None of these other news sources are doing work.

00:08:11.000 Help us.

00:08:12.000 Think about it.

00:08:12.000 They don't want to create any...

00:08:13.000 They don't want to get to the bottom of this.

00:08:14.000 This is really basic stuff.

00:08:16.000 This is an entirely fraudulent movement.

00:08:19.000 It's a giant scam.

00:08:20.000 I guess they think that if they could just create enough hype...

00:08:23.000 In the social media sphere, create a hype on Twitter, eventually it'll come to fruition to exist in reality.

00:08:29.000 I don't know.

00:08:29.000 If they just keep telling people this is a big movement, lots of things are happening, people are excited, people are pumped, people are marching in the streets.

00:08:35.000 Eventually, I don't know, but why wouldn't they want me to show up to something?

00:08:39.000 Well, they don't want you to show up because they want to control it.

00:08:42.000 They want to put on a front.

00:08:43.000 And they know that many workers don't really want to join their union ranks.

00:08:47.000 A lot of workers understand automation.

00:08:49.000 A lot of workers see what's happened in places like California.

00:08:52.000 And a lot of them know if they didn't show up this morning.

00:08:55.000 They'd be fired.

00:08:56.000 Well, yeah, but that's what the unions are going to say.

00:08:57.000 See, and that shouldn't happen.

00:08:58.000 You should never be fired.

00:09:00.000 For protesting and leaving your job.

00:09:02.000 What about the fact that you cannot get correctly at KFC white meat and dark meat?

00:09:08.000 It's never happened.

00:09:09.000 No.

00:09:10.000 Original...

00:09:11.000 Original electric crispy.

00:09:12.000 They never get it right.

00:09:13.000 You can visually see the difference.

00:09:14.000 They can never get it right.

00:09:16.000 Can you imagine these kind of people, like, ending up in the military protesting, like...

00:09:19.000 Oh, we didn't get our rations today just right.

00:09:23.000 We're striking tomorrow.

00:09:24.000 The whole world would go to hell.

00:09:26.000 You know what's so funny?

00:09:27.000 Two people on Twitter were talking about this.

00:09:28.000 They're going, you know what?

00:09:29.000 You could easily pay for this if you just gave the CEO pay to the employees.

00:09:33.000 Like, they just think that the CEO... You got it.

00:09:36.000 Just swipe a card.

00:09:37.000 Like, they don't understand the second biggest number on any expenditure list for a business is employee costs.

00:09:43.000 They say, McDonald's worth $61 billion.

00:09:43.000 Yeah.

00:09:46.000 Okay, how many people do they employ?

00:09:48.000 And this is what's so crazy.

00:09:49.000 You just tell someone they deserve something, you stir them up with a hashtag, and they don't even pay attention to the lot.

00:09:55.000 But remember, if you just raise the price of the Big Mac by 15.5 cents, you could pay for it all.

00:10:00.000 It's a no-brainer.

00:10:00.000 The Big Mac isn't worth 15.5 cents to begin with.

00:10:04.000 It's such bad math on their part, whatever the numbers are thrown out there.

00:10:07.000 Well, you know, 15, why not make it 19?

00:10:10.000 Why not make it 25?

00:10:11.000 Why not?

00:10:12.000 At that point, you just pick a number and say, you know, we had people tweeting us.

00:10:15.000 This is a good example.

00:10:16.000 Tweeting us saying, well, you know what?

00:10:17.000 You try and live on that kind of a wage.

00:10:20.000 We can't even eat.

00:10:22.000 On days that I don't eat out.

00:10:22.000 Okay.

00:10:24.000 Now, listen, we do pretty well.

00:10:25.000 I'm not going to lie about that.

00:10:26.000 We've been pretty blessed.

00:10:27.000 We've had some hardships.

00:10:29.000 Neither of us are in a food line.

00:10:31.000 And I'm grateful.

00:10:32.000 I'm not going to lie about it.

00:10:33.000 I've been able to hire Jared.

00:10:33.000 You know what?

00:10:34.000 I've been able to hire brilliant people like Courtney and Casey and hopefully more.

00:10:39.000 And we want to grow when we don't do any unpaid interns.

00:10:42.000 But yeah, we're not struggling.

00:10:45.000 I understand that people have it far worse off than we do right now.

00:10:48.000 And I'm grateful.

00:10:49.000 But you know what?

00:10:50.000 If I'm not eating out, and I do eat out quite a bit, if I'm not...

00:10:53.000 It's under $8 a day.

00:10:55.000 I've done the math.

00:10:56.000 People say, poor people don't have access to healthy food.

00:10:59.000 Milk, eggs, fruit, veggies, meat.

00:11:03.000 All of the latter, which you can buy on sale.

00:11:06.000 You can eat like a professional athlete.

00:11:10.000 This is where you insert your chink. 1.00

00:11:12.000 It's not that complicated.

00:11:14.000 What?

00:11:15.000 My chink?

00:11:16.000 Chink, chink, chink. 1.00

00:11:17.000 Oh, chink. 1.00

00:11:18.000 Chink from Young Turks. 1.00

00:11:19.000 Young Turks. 0.66

00:11:20.000 Folks, people, it's not that complicated, okay?

00:11:24.000 I'd like to rationalize, I'd like to reason my argument, but instead I'll just say, come on!

00:11:29.000 Mainstream media!

00:11:30.000 What?

00:11:32.000 That's a perfect Young Turks impression. 0.97

00:11:34.000 If you question it, I'm going to have you jailed like Bill Nye wants to do with actual scientists.

00:11:39.000 We'll talk about that afterward.

00:11:40.000 I want to talk more about this fight for 15 and this populist bullcrap and this idea that the poor have it so horrible in the United States.

00:11:47.000 I was raised in Quebec.

00:11:48.000 Stay tuned.

00:11:48.000 The poor have it worse.

00:11:49.000 Everybody was Kung Fu fighting.

00:11:52.000 Those kids were fastest lightning.

00:11:56.000 In fact, it was a little bit frightening.

00:12:01.000 But they fought with expert timing.

00:12:09.000 Fight for 15!

00:12:16.000 This is so great that we're all joined together and we're fighting for the workers' rights.

00:12:19.000 Yeah, man, that's cool.

00:12:20.000 I want to be paid more, too. 0.99

00:12:22.000 Yeah, the minimum wage is bullshit. 0.99

00:12:24.000 We deserve at least 15 an hour. 0.99

00:12:26.000 Yeah, man, I'll tell you what.

00:12:26.000 I could really use, like, 19 an hour.

00:12:28.000 Yeah.

00:12:30.000 19 is better than 15.

00:12:35.000 We print out all these flyers with 15 on it. 1.00

00:12:39.000 But that's bullshit! 0.99

00:12:40.000 We need 19! 1.00

00:12:42.000 Yeah!

00:12:43.000 Fight for 19!

00:12:47.000 new posters glad to be back and And, you know, we're going to move on.

00:13:10.000 So Bill Nye wants to jail.

00:13:11.000 Bill Nye, a non-scientist.

00:13:13.000 Noted non-scientist.

00:13:15.000 But he taught me how to make some excellent rock candy.

00:13:19.000 Really?

00:13:20.000 Yeah.

00:13:20.000 Taught you to make crystal meth?

00:13:22.000 Well, that's what we called it.

00:13:23.000 Rock candy.

00:13:24.000 That's what happened.

00:13:25.000 Not Gay Jared watched Bill Nye one day and his mom said, what's going on?

00:13:29.000 I smoke rocks!

00:13:32.000 You sound like Dave Chappelle for some reason.

00:13:33.000 That's how it happened.

00:13:35.000 And she said, she said, what's wrong with you? 1.00

00:13:38.000 And he said, bitch! 1.00

00:13:39.000 Be all right! 1.00

00:13:40.000 All right.

00:13:41.000 So we were talking about the fight for 15 before this.

00:13:44.000 So we were talking about, let's talk about this, okay?

00:13:46.000 Food.

00:13:47.000 You know, we've done this math a lot.

00:13:49.000 By the way, Not Gay Jared was very, very nice and gave this money to a homeless man when we were downtown and Coach Mark Ripito was visiting.

00:13:58.000 And as we're walking up, because, you know, I'm hobbled, Jared is giving him...

00:14:02.000 Did we tell this story on air?

00:14:03.000 I don't think we did.

00:14:05.000 You always forget.

00:14:06.000 There's so much that happens in a week.

00:14:07.000 There's an argument to go daily with something like this, but we're downtown, so we're pulling up, and we just see, you know, Jared's little dainty hand coming out with a cup and some change.

00:14:18.000 Hey, hey, just sit the record straight.

00:14:19.000 My hand is way bigger than yours.

00:14:20.000 Your hand's not bigger than mine.

00:14:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:14:22.000 Proportionally, yes, but it's not bigger.

00:14:23.000 What, you mean length?

00:14:24.000 All right.

00:14:24.000 Length.

00:14:26.000 Um, does not correlate with grip strength.

00:14:28.000 Well, you're not left-handed.

00:14:29.000 I'm not.

00:14:30.000 Okay, so the right hand.

00:14:31.000 But the point is, we see a hand going out with change.

00:14:33.000 And we're walking up.

00:14:34.000 I just hear Mark.

00:14:35.000 He's going, oh, no.

00:14:37.000 He knows what's going to happen.

00:14:38.000 The guy takes the money from Jared.

00:14:40.000 Thank you, Captain!

00:14:41.000 Thank you, Captain!

00:14:42.000 God bless you, Captain!

00:14:43.000 Captain!

00:14:44.000 And we're walking up.

00:14:45.000 And as we're walking up, and Jared is passing him money out of the window.

00:14:49.000 So we're trying to get in the car.

00:14:51.000 He stops us to shake us down.

00:14:52.000 He's just gotten money from you.

00:14:54.000 He knows we're in the same car.

00:14:57.000 Substantial amount of change.

00:14:58.000 It looked like a full cup.

00:15:00.000 And he turns out, hey, captain, do you have any?

00:15:02.000 And I said, you know, listen, I don't.

00:15:03.000 He's the one who would have any change.

00:15:04.000 It was in the console.

00:15:06.000 Oh, yeah, well, you can't find anything?

00:15:08.000 And that's how you gave away your change at the console, by the way.

00:15:08.000 You can't spare anything?

00:15:10.000 Well, I figured it out afterward.

00:15:12.000 By the way, it's been taken from your pay, so it all works out in the end.

00:15:16.000 That's why you don't fight for 15.

00:15:18.000 And he turns to Mark, and before he can even get to speaking with Coach Mark, he looks at him.

00:15:23.000 And he just says, go away.

00:15:27.000 He says it with that sound of whiskey.

00:15:29.000 Cool whip. 1.00

00:15:30.000 They kind of rattled the whole car a little bit.

00:15:32.000 Go away.

00:15:34.000 And the guy just stopped and left.

00:15:37.000 But my point is, people have averaged what folks make panhandling.

00:15:41.000 And we've seen them a couple times since then.

00:15:42.000 Yes.

00:15:43.000 We've seen them many times since then.

00:15:44.000 People panhandling often make more than minimum wage.

00:15:46.000 People don't know that.

00:15:48.000 For a lot of people, it's a scam.

00:15:49.000 It doesn't mean you shouldn't help people who are down under luck, but that's just reality.

00:15:52.000 Okay?

00:15:54.000 If you're making, let's say minimum wage, what's minimum, about $8, $7 an hour?

00:15:57.000 Yeah, something, something, $7.40 maybe.

00:15:59.000 The point is, you can live off of that very, very easily.

00:16:02.000 It comes down to choice.

00:16:03.000 We were talking about this because you were eating some kind of sweet and sour Skittles.

00:16:07.000 Yeah, it was just clever.

00:16:08.000 It was sweet and sour.

00:16:09.000 It was sweet and sour.

00:16:10.000 No, you got your money's worth.

00:16:11.000 I went for both.

00:16:12.000 As far as Skittles go.

00:16:14.000 Same package.

00:16:14.000 You should still feel great shame, but you got your money's worth.

00:16:17.000 Now for that same price, you could have had two bananas, a pint of milk, and probably, I don't know, something else.

00:16:24.000 I don't know, raspberries, a couple of eggs.

00:16:26.000 Think about it.

00:16:27.000 You get a gallon of milk, it's what, $3.99.

00:16:29.000 Bananas are 99 cents.

00:16:31.000 You get a whole handful of them.

00:16:33.000 This idea that...

00:16:34.000 You know, you say that, and now if I can go back...

00:16:38.000 No, I'd probably get the Skittles again.

00:16:40.000 I think they're banana-flavored Skittles, so we're good.

00:16:43.000 That's what I figured.

00:16:44.000 I'm resolved.

00:16:45.000 The point here, and this is this fight for 15, you have a bunch of people where it's always a problem that's not themselves.

00:16:52.000 And conservatives have, you know, there's this idea of compassionate conservatism.

00:16:55.000 People want to ease their guilt.

00:16:56.000 No!

00:16:57.000 Listen, it's okay.

00:16:58.000 The problem is you.

00:17:00.000 The problem is you.

00:17:01.000 If you look at people who are successful, if you look at people who have made it beyond minimum wage jobs, in every case, some of them do it in weeks, some of them do it in months, some of them do it in years, they said, I'm going to do what it takes to get beyond this.

00:17:14.000 Period.

00:17:14.000 There is a common thread 100% of the time.

00:17:18.000 Okay?

00:17:20.000 And generally speaking, there's that same common thread for people who remain in those employment positions long term.

00:17:28.000 Long term.

00:17:29.000 Some people are down on their luck.

00:17:31.000 Absolutely.

00:17:32.000 Now, if they are in that position long term, and they're not disabled, or particularly maybe not highly functioning.

00:17:39.000 By the way, we work with special needs.

00:17:40.000 My wife and I work with special needs people.

00:17:41.000 If you've seen the video on Friendship Club, a lot of these people have jobs, and they pay them less than minimum wage.

00:17:48.000 They're finding something for these people to do.

00:17:50.000 These people just want to go out and do something.

00:17:53.000 Mm-hmm.

00:17:53.000 And some of them actually do work at McDonald's.

00:17:56.000 We know a guy named Dominic with pretty severe Down syndrome.

00:17:58.000 I met him.

00:17:59.000 Yeah, smart.

00:17:59.000 He's a guy who calls me Grandpa because of the gray hairs and red sideburns.

00:18:02.000 He's a smart-ass Down syndrome person.

00:18:04.000 Yeah, he is.

00:18:05.000 Very funny, but he's actually moved up.

00:18:08.000 He's like a shift manager at McDonald's.

00:18:11.000 Come on.

00:18:12.000 I'm not trying to say that if Dominic with Down Syndrome can do it, you have no excuse.

00:18:17.000 But if Dominic with Down Syndrome can become a manager at McDonald's, you probably have no excuse.

00:18:21.000 That's the reality.

00:18:23.000 And people get so mad, they talk about corporations.

00:18:25.000 Let's just not lose sight of something, okay?

00:18:27.000 People talk about socialism and a safety net.

00:18:30.000 I was raised in Canada.

00:18:31.000 Everything costs more, by the way.

00:18:32.000 No one believed me when I said you can get beef, high-quality steak, for $4.99 a pound in the States.

00:18:36.000 Well, where can you get that?

00:18:38.000 Watch them go on sale.

00:18:40.000 My parents do well.

00:18:41.000 You know what my mom does? 1.00

00:18:42.000 She finds steak when it's on sale.

00:18:44.000 $4.99 a pound.

00:18:45.000 She puts it in a freezer bag.

00:18:46.000 Doesn't even pay for the freezer machine sealant, whatever you call it.

00:18:50.000 That was a fancy thing.

00:18:51.000 She sucks out the air with a straw. 0.75

00:18:53.000 Steak dinner.

00:18:54.000 You can get chicken for under $2 a pound.

00:18:57.000 Pork.

00:18:58.000 Eggs.

00:18:58.000 It's very, very easy to do.

00:19:00.000 You just have to make the decision.

00:19:02.000 So, in the States, anyways.

00:19:04.000 A lot of people didn't believe me when I threw out these prices on Twitter.

00:19:08.000 And I remember thinking, well, that's true.

00:19:09.000 In Canada, we ate these kinds of foods far less often.

00:19:14.000 Let's not lose sight.

00:19:15.000 People will walk into a Rite Aid or people will walk into a McDonald's or they'll walk into a local coffee roaster company or a local restaurant and go, yeah, look at Coca-Cola.

00:19:24.000 These billionaires, corporate billionaires rigging the system.

00:19:27.000 This is capitalism.

00:19:28.000 And they ignore on that same street the dozens or hundreds Of hundred thousandaires.

00:19:35.000 Or low-level millionaires.

00:19:37.000 It's not one or the other.

00:19:39.000 Capitalism has brought more people, has created more moving class structures than any other system ever in the history of the world, particularly America's brand, free enterprise capitalism.

00:19:50.000 So it's easy to bitch about the billionaire, but guess what?

00:19:52.000 The person who has that fountain machine that you're looking at, bitching about the Coca-Cola because you're thinking about some CEO who has billions, that allowed that guy to open up a franchise, Beaners Coffee or whatever it is, Big B Coffee, and he's able to make good money, upper middle class.

00:20:08.000 And that's a lot of people.

00:20:09.000 And it's available to nearly all of you if you're basically competent.

00:20:14.000 So instead of bitching about what somebody else has, try and take part in the common thread that connects every single moderately successful American.

00:20:22.000 Improve yourself. 0.99

00:20:23.000 You're the loser. 0.99

00:20:25.000 And I'm not going to say it's not compassionate. 1.00

00:20:27.000 We don't need to apologize for it.

00:20:29.000 If you never advance, it's you.

00:20:33.000 You're the problem.

00:20:35.000 Alright, we're going to have Julie Borowski after this break. 1.00

00:20:37.000 Stay tuned.

00:20:38.000 Stay tuned.

00:21:00.000 This is breaking news on Louder with Crowder.

00:21:03.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

00:21:06.000 In the wake of controversy regarding Ben Carson's recent statements as a surrogate for Donald Trump's campaign, we take you live to an exclusive interview with our on-the-ground reporter, Jimmy.

00:21:19.000 Jimmy! 0.85

00:21:19.000 Thank you, Perry. 0.85

00:21:20.000 Mr.

00:21:21.000 Carson, having said that you would be never Trump if not for your children, you've been criticized as...

00:21:29.000 Not a very loyal surrogate.

00:21:31.000 What do you say to your critics?

00:21:33.000 To be fair, I don't think that's particularly accurate.

00:21:37.000 In context, explain as to why I would be never Trump and as to why I wouldn't be.

00:21:44.000 Okay, I'm still not quite clear.

00:21:46.000 Why is it?

00:21:48.000 What's the context in which you would be never Trump?

00:21:52.000 Well, I don't think he'd make a very good president.

00:21:54.000 I think it's pretty simple.

00:21:56.000 And in what context is that appropriate for a surrogate to say? 1.00

00:22:01.000 Listen, sometimes Donald can be a dick. 0.99

00:22:05.000 We'll keep you up to date as this exclusive interview unfolds. 0.99

00:22:08.000 For breaking news on Water with Crowder, I'm Barry Matheson.

00:22:20.000 All right.

00:22:35.000 Nat K. Jarrett is asleep at the switch.

00:22:36.000 He'll have to be promptly fired.

00:22:39.000 I'm glad to bring this next guest on.

00:22:42.000 I've watched her for a while.

00:22:43.000 We sort of ran in the YouTube circles years ago.

00:22:47.000 And you know her as Token Libertarian Chick. 1.00

00:22:49.000 You can follow her YouTube channel.

00:22:50.000 I highly recommend it at julieborowski.com.

00:22:54.000 B-O-R-O-W-S-K-I. And she just moderated the Libertarian Party debate.

00:23:02.000 So she's moving on up and pretty high profile in the Libertarian movement.

00:23:06.000 Yeah, Julie, thanks for coming on.

00:23:09.000 Thank you for having me on.

00:23:10.000 Okay, so was that pretty exciting?

00:23:12.000 You were there.

00:23:12.000 I mean, what's the Libertarian Party debate?

00:23:15.000 Isn't it sort of settled that it's going to be Gary Johnson or are there still other people vying for it?

00:23:20.000 Well, actually, I monitored the debate, and there was about, I guess, eight other candidates.

00:23:25.000 There was a couple frontrunners.

00:23:27.000 Gary Johnson would be the frontrunner.

00:23:29.000 Then there's Austin Peterson and others.

00:23:33.000 So, yeah, that was a really good time.

00:23:34.000 Do you have a favorite yourself, or do you stay doing this?

00:23:38.000 I don't want to endorse anyone yet.

00:23:40.000 I apologize.

00:23:41.000 This is my cat.

00:23:42.000 You can endorse the cat.

00:23:42.000 That's okay.

00:23:45.000 I think I probably agree with Austin Peterson the most.

00:23:49.000 I do know him.

00:23:50.000 Gary Johnson I do like.

00:23:52.000 However, I watched the Fox News debate with him the other night, and he said a couple of things that I didn't quite agree with.

00:23:59.000 Gary Johnson?

00:24:00.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:24:01.000 He said that bakers should be forced to bake a cake for gay weddings, and he wants to limit mentally ill people from getting guns. 0.85

00:24:11.000 So that was kind of... 0.83

00:24:14.000 Well, on its surface, people go, what is she saying here?

00:24:17.000 She's saying mentally ill people should get guns, but I know what she's saying, and I actually agree with what Julie is saying, so hold your horses. 1.00

00:24:23.000 Why are you laughing not gay, Jared? 0.99

00:24:25.000 What is so funny? 0.59

00:24:26.000 I'm sorry.

00:24:26.000 There is nothing funny.

00:24:27.000 What are you laughing about?

00:24:29.000 Nothing's funny.

00:24:30.000 Is it the cat?

00:24:31.000 Cats are never funny.

00:24:32.000 Oh, I think I know why he's laughing.

00:24:34.000 Cats are never funny.

00:24:34.000 Because you mentioned that about Gary Johnson and the cake, and I've talked about it.

00:24:37.000 I've always had this sneaking suspicion that Gary Johnson might be a little bit light in the loafers, and so the gay cake thing would stand to reason. 1.00

00:24:45.000 I have nothing to substantiate that.

00:24:47.000 But sometimes he's a little flippant and feminine for a male candidate.

00:24:51.000 Am I the only one who's noticed?

00:24:53.000 I wouldn't go that far, but he does have quite a few liberal positions.

00:24:58.000 No, I'm not.

00:24:59.000 Well, I'm not talking.

00:24:59.000 See, you took it to a whole other level with the positions.

00:25:02.000 I'm not talking about the other positions. 0.99

00:25:04.000 Oh, I am saying I think he might be a homosexual. 1.00

00:25:06.000 But I have nothing to substantiate.

00:25:08.000 Sometimes he goes up there and he's like, oh, I might stand to reason with the cakes.

00:25:11.000 I actually like Gary Johnson.

00:25:13.000 Funny enough, I've talked about this.

00:25:15.000 If it is Gary Johnson, Donald Trump, and Hillary Clinton, there's not enough of a contrast.

00:25:21.000 And I don't know.

00:25:23.000 I might flip the switch for Gary Johnson.

00:25:24.000 I have no idea.

00:25:27.000 Even though I don't consider myself a tried and true libertarian, I think there are a lot of people right now.

00:25:32.000 You know what it comes down to?

00:25:33.000 I don't believe that any of them are pro-life at this point.

00:25:36.000 And I'm not a one-issue voter, but that is a closed-handed issue.

00:25:39.000 And I think Gary Johnson would be the guy, obviously has no chance of winning.

00:25:42.000 If he did, he'd cut the beast off at the head.

00:25:45.000 And even though he's not pro-life, he would defund it.

00:25:48.000 So I'm like, okay, if someone's not pro-life, but they want to end my tax dollars funding baby killing, I can get on board.

00:25:56.000 Yeah, he's pro-choice.

00:26:00.000 Austin Peterson is probably, I think, the biggest pro-life person in the race.

00:26:04.000 Donald Trump, I don't know where he stands on that issue because...

00:26:08.000 He was pro-life before, and now he says he's pro-life.

00:26:11.000 And when he asked about the punishment, he didn't even know.

00:26:11.000 What day is it?

00:26:14.000 So I don't know where he stands on that issue.

00:26:16.000 Well, I think it was Austin Peterson.

00:26:18.000 I just mean a third-party candidate.

00:26:20.000 It's a protest vote.

00:26:21.000 I understand that.

00:26:22.000 But I think we might if it's Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, I don't think there's enough of a contrast where I think a protest vote makes sense at that point.

00:26:32.000 And do you do you see a lot of that in this election?

00:26:34.000 People who never even thought of that, you think coming into the fold, just going throwing their hands up and they're tired of it?

00:26:42.000 I think the Libertarian Party, I think they're probably going to do the best that they've done in decades in this election.

00:26:48.000 It's funny.

00:26:50.000 Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, it seems like no one really likes them that much.

00:26:55.000 So I think people are going to go for a protest vote.

00:26:58.000 I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 because I didn't like Mitt Romney or Obama, but now I'm definitely going to vote for a third party because I can't stand any of the frontrunners.

00:27:07.000 If it was Rand Paul, would you have voted Republican?

00:27:10.000 Yeah, I would have voted for Rand Paul.

00:27:11.000 Okay, so even the next closest thing being Ted Cruz, why is that a no-go?

00:27:17.000 Um, I like Ted Cruz on some domestic policy issues, but when it comes to foreign policy, he kind of scares me.

00:27:24.000 He said things like...

00:27:26.000 Let's make the sand glow in the Middle East, which is just like, for me, I am a non-interventionist, so I'm like, ugh, that's...

00:27:32.000 I don't know.

00:27:33.000 I don't know.

00:27:34.000 Ugh.

00:27:34.000 So I guess my question, and I understand where you're coming from, and I'm more libertarian than most conservatives.

00:27:41.000 I would lean more libertarian than conservative in a lot of ways.

00:27:44.000 I just don't use a label, because Bill Maher...

00:27:47.000 Fred Gutfeld and Glenn Beck all at one point.

00:27:49.000 I'm like, what does the label mean?

00:27:50.000 So I just say conservative and if people ask me to explain.

00:27:53.000 What's the libertarian idea right now?

00:27:55.000 How do you think a president should deal, for example, with ISIS where we are?

00:28:01.000 It's such a hard question.

00:28:03.000 I think that's why Rand Paul didn't do as well this election, because of the whole ISIS thing. 0.52

00:28:09.000 When you talk about non-interventionism, people think you're a pacifist.

00:28:12.000 People think that you're completely anti-war, whereas I think that most libertarians, including myself, are not completely anti-war.

00:28:20.000 I think if there is a real threat from ISIS, especially if they threaten to attack us, and if they do, I think that we should respond.

00:28:29.000 I'm not completely like, oh, let them do whatever they want to do.

00:28:33.000 But it's definitely a hard question.

00:28:36.000 Do you think any...

00:28:37.000 Because that's one thing.

00:28:38.000 Libertarians have just not had answers for that.

00:28:41.000 And I think more people would look at them if they did.

00:28:43.000 Is there anyone there who you think has a solid answer?

00:28:45.000 If Rand Paul didn't do it, would it be Peterson?

00:28:48.000 Would it be Johnson?

00:28:48.000 Who answers that question so people go, okay, I can take you seriously, Libertarian Party?

00:28:54.000 I honestly think that's one of our downfalls right now because people are so scared of ISIS, all this fear-mongering.

00:29:01.000 If you don't say, you know, we're going to go over and defeat ISIS, people think that you're weak on that issue.

00:29:06.000 It's one of those really hard you said fear-mongering and I think that's kind of So then okay, so then you need to kind of rationalize why is it fear-mongering?

00:29:13.000 That would mean that Isis is not a threat.

00:29:16.000 So again that comes back to the question how does a libertarian candidate say it's fear-mongering why?

00:29:21.000 I don't think Isis is as big of a threat as the news makes it out to be.

00:29:26.000 Okay.

00:29:26.000 Especially to us.

00:29:28.000 Of course, in the Middle East, ISIS is a huge threat to those people, but I don't think they're as big as a threat to us as the news makes it out to be.

00:29:35.000 Of course, when you say that, people just think, oh, you're just naive on the issue.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, I think some people would.

00:29:43.000 I can understand arguments on that side.

00:29:45.000 I mean, I can understand certainly looking back and people saying, well, okay, Iraq didn't work out and that was a mistake, and I can see arguments on both sides, provided they're honest, you know, provided they're not spreading falsehoods like there were no WMDs or something like that.

00:29:55.000 If they say, listen, there were WMDs, Saddam out is good, but I don't think we should have done it. 1.00

00:29:58.000 Great.

00:29:59.000 I'm on board with libertarians there.

00:30:01.000 My question is always, okay, we're here now.

00:30:03.000 And that is, I think, an issue, like you said, is disconcerting if people aren't offering a viable solution to deal with it when people are sort of being burned alive in cages.

00:30:13.000 I think there are two libertarians.

00:30:14.000 And I think you've just sort of...

00:30:16.000 Which I'm grateful for, defined yourself as, there are libertarians who are going, okay, good enough is good enough.

00:30:21.000 Like you said, Rand Paul, you would have voted for him.

00:30:24.000 And I think a lot of libertarians, like at the Libertarian Club when I was in college, you know, they're out of a movement if all of a sudden, right, the libertarian candidate actually has a shot.

00:30:34.000 So do you see the libertarian movement kind of taking like a Tea Party approach of taking back the Republican Party, putting in people like Rand or like Justin Amash is a great representative in Michigan?

00:30:45.000 Do you think that's the approach, or do you think go boom, full third party and separate and stay that way? - There are different sides to the libertarian movement.

00:30:55.000 I think there are people who believe in the Libertarian party, they're gonna go that way.

00:30:59.000 And then there's Libertarians who believe that taking over the Republican party is the right way to go.

00:31:04.000 I think a lot of Libertarians just kind of got fed up with the Republican party after Ron Paul, after what they did to him.

00:31:11.000 And the convention, all those roles, which now are backfiring against the establishment.

00:31:17.000 So there's two different things.

00:31:19.000 Well, I guess there's actually three different things.

00:31:20.000 We also have the anarchists in the movement who want nothing to do with politics.

00:31:24.000 So it's very interesting.

00:31:26.000 Yeah, those are the people who, if it's not Rand Paul, they go to Bernie, the anarchists, a lot of them.

00:31:30.000 So I wouldn't put them in the same vein as someone who's as thoughtful as you.

00:31:34.000 Why is that?

00:31:35.000 Why did half of Ron Paul's people go Rand and half of them go Bernie?

00:31:41.000 You couldn't get any more opposite from Ron Paul.

00:31:44.000 I disagree with him on some things.

00:31:45.000 I love him on some issues, but I don't understand how someone can rationalize that.

00:31:50.000 Am I in the dark here?

00:31:52.000 It seems like there are quite a few people in the whole Ron Paul movement, which I was a part of.

00:31:57.000 We're really just there because they were contrarians.

00:32:00.000 They were anti-establishment.

00:32:02.000 They just wanted to burn the system to the ground.

00:32:04.000 And they feel that Bernie Sanders is the best person to do that.

00:32:07.000 But also, I've noticed a lot of Ron Paul people going to Donald Trump.

00:32:12.000 Yeah, even anarchists who supported Ron Paul going to Donald Trump, which makes no sense to me.

00:32:19.000 Well, how do you, like someone like you, who, you know, whether someone disagrees with you or not, has been consistent, you know, see something like the alt-right, which consisted of a lot of libertarians, and now they're sort of nationalist Trump supporters, populism.

00:32:35.000 What do you think when you're watching this election unfold, and you see people who claimed your mantle now going Trump?

00:32:43.000 I think there are good people who go to Donald Trump, and they do it for the right reasons.

00:32:48.000 Sure.

00:32:48.000 But there's also, like you said, the alt-rights.

00:32:51.000 And I've seen some libertarians go down this rabbit hole where they're so against politically correct culture, which I'm against, too.

00:32:59.000 Sure.

00:33:00.000 But they become so completely against it that they become spiteful and they go to the alt-rights. 0.96

00:33:07.000 And that these people, those are really insane people.

00:33:10.000 I mean, they have legit neo-Nazis in there, which is not libertarian whatsoever. 0.96

00:33:15.000 No.

00:33:16.000 So it's really scary to see.

00:33:19.000 I wish we could just bring them back and just be like, Be logical.

00:33:25.000 I think it's just a lot of anger, and anger's not, you know, the right reason to vote.

00:33:30.000 Have you seen, because you have someone like Ben Shapiro, who's conservative, but again, much more libertarian than people would realize if they actually look at what he believes.

00:33:37.000 And, you know, they've had him on the show, and obviously Milo, and they've sort of taken two different directions, and Ben's been a target.

00:33:44.000 Have you felt some of these people, like you just said, some of the, not all of the alt-right, there are a lot of people who go there for the right reasons, have you felt the wrath of some of these people for remaining libertarian and They're not happy with you?

00:33:56.000 Oh, yes.

00:33:57.000 I get all kinds of hate on Twitter for it.

00:34:01.000 Gosh, they say all kinds of terrible things about me, that I'm naive for being a libertarian still.

00:34:08.000 I'm politically correct, which is crazy to me that somebody would think I'm politically correct.

00:34:13.000 Also, that I don't hate all immigrants, so I must be part of this whole politically correct culture.

00:34:19.000 Well, that's another thing.

00:34:20.000 There are two different kind of ideas on libertarianism, where some are much more open to, I guess, not necessarily open, but more free borders.

00:34:30.000 And then there are some who think, no, it's a problem we really need to fix and take seriously.

00:34:34.000 Where do you line up and which candidate, I guess?

00:34:37.000 Because that's a big issue, too.

00:34:38.000 Like you said, the kind of weakness ISIS foreign policy for libertarians is not a good year for them to run.

00:34:44.000 Immigration is a hot-button issue.

00:34:46.000 How should libertarians handle that in this election, or how do you see it?

00:34:51.000 Honestly, I'm torn on immigration because we do have this huge welfare state, and people come here, and some people just want to get on the government dole. 0.70

00:35:00.000 Some immigrants do that, but at the same time, there are some immigrants who come here who are very smart, very educated, and come here for a better life, and they do contribute to society.

00:35:13.000 For me, I think the biggest issue is...

00:35:18.000 How bureaucratic the system is.

00:35:20.000 How many years it takes to become a legal citizen of this nation.

00:35:24.000 I've seen some of my friends go through that system and for me that's the biggest issue that people come here legally and they follow the law, they're good people, but it's just so hard to become a citizen.

00:35:36.000 Yeah, I think you're right on that.

00:35:39.000 But my mother, being a legal immigrant, would argue that it should be.

00:35:42.000 And no one is more frustrated with people who don't go through the process and don't learn the language than a lot of legal immigrants. 0.98

00:35:47.000 So, yeah, I think there are two sides to that coin.

00:35:51.000 And it's a reasoned argument.

00:35:53.000 Speaking of which, we must go to a reasonable break for our evil corporate overlords. 0.97

00:35:56.000 Hopefully we have some of that Koch brother money.

00:35:57.000 But we will be back, dear listener, with token libertarian chick Julie Borowski.

00:36:02.000 Stay tuned.

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00:36:48.000 What is breaking news on Lower Wolf Crowder?

00:36:59.000 I'm Harry Matheson.

00:37:01.000 In the wake of controversy regarding Ben Carson's recent statements as a surrogate for Donald Trump's campaign, we take you live to an exclusive interview with our on-the-ground reporter, Jimmy.

00:37:14.000 Jimmy! 0.85

00:37:15.000 Dr.

00:37:16.000 Ben Carson, I don't think you're fully aware of the role of a surrogate.

00:37:21.000 You're not supposed to say these things about...

00:37:25.000 The person you're representing.

00:37:28.000 Respectfully, no.

00:37:29.000 That's not true.

00:37:31.000 And that's the kind of mindset that has Americans tired of politics in general.

00:37:36.000 Americans are tired of their surrogates not trashing the candidates for whom they work?

00:37:44.000 I don't like him.

00:37:45.000 I don't like Donald Trump.

00:37:47.000 But I have to support him because this is my job. 0.67

00:37:50.000 You're the worst surrogate ever. 0.61

00:37:52.000 You realize that? 1.00

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00:37:57.000 We'll keep you up to date as this exclusive interview unfolds. 0.99

00:38:00.000 For breaking news on Water with Crowder, I'm Barry Malthuson.

00:38:09.000 You're a strange animal, that's what I know.

00:38:16.000 But you're a strange animal, I've got to follow. 0.95

00:38:21.000 A woman that's speedy to sound. 0.99

00:38:24.000 Glad to be back.

00:38:25.000 Serious.

00:38:25.000 Serious show.

00:38:26.000 Serious guest.

00:38:28.000 Smart lady. 0.98

00:38:28.000 Clever guest. 0.98

00:38:29.000 I don't know.

00:38:30.000 That's a microaggression.

00:38:31.000 Right off the bat. 1.00

00:38:31.000 Damn it, not gay, Jared. 1.00

00:38:32.000 You're supposed to keep me in line. 1.00

00:38:33.000 Ah, it's just too much to handle.

00:38:35.000 YouTube channel, Julie Borowski.

00:38:37.000 B-O-R-O. W. W-S-K-I. I keep wanting to say why. 1.00

00:38:42.000 Julie, thanks for being back with us.

00:38:44.000 Thanks.

00:38:45.000 Okay, I know I have to go to this break.

00:38:46.000 We have these commercials.

00:38:47.000 Yeah, on the immigration issue, there are definitely two short splits with libertarians.

00:38:53.000 What about the two-party system?

00:38:56.000 Libertarians complain about that a lot.

00:38:59.000 I'm a big fan of the two-party system.

00:39:00.000 That's why I asked that kind of question before, if they think about taking swaths of the Republican Party or staying third party and remaining forever pretty ineffectual.

00:39:11.000 What do you think and what's the sentiment right now in the true Libertarian community?

00:39:16.000 Like I said, there's two camps there.

00:39:19.000 I'm not against the Libertarian Party.

00:39:21.000 I vote for the Libertarian Party a lot of the times.

00:39:24.000 But I think probably taking over the Republican Party is a more effective strategy.

00:39:29.000 Like you mentioned, Justin Amash, Thomas Massey, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, all very Libertarian-leaning who are in the Republican Party and they're doing good.

00:39:40.000 I'm not trying to say, and people always get on me and say, oh, Julie's trying to tell us what to do.

00:39:45.000 I mean, you can do whatever you want to do.

00:39:47.000 Well, that's the problem with libertarians, especially if you have self-professed anarchists who then support Trump.

00:39:51.000 They're just, don't tell me what to do, Julie!

00:39:55.000 But, you know, the problem is if you're a libertarian party, right, you never win.

00:39:58.000 I mean, the whole reason for the two-party system, I come from, I was raised in Canada, parliamentary system, right? 0.86

00:40:02.000 The reason for the two-party system is to avoid the absolute crap show that you see right now in a primary.

00:40:08.000 Where someone who can't get above 35% of the vote can hijack a primary and win a nomination.

00:40:14.000 Well, that's what happens if ever you don't have a two-party system.

00:40:18.000 You don't have someone who represents even close to a majority.

00:40:21.000 I mean, we've had prime ministers in Canada elected with, I want to say, 35%.

00:40:25.000 So, I think a lot of libertarians in college, I certainly wouldn't include you there, but a lot of my libertarian friends are like, the two-party system, man!

00:40:32.000 Well, look at the primary right now.

00:40:33.000 That's what we want to avoid.

00:40:36.000 So, do you think a lot of...

00:40:38.000 Do people really think of that?

00:40:40.000 Or are they just, again, angry?

00:40:42.000 Are libertarians as angry as the Trump and the Bernie voters?

00:40:46.000 I think third parties give people an alternative.

00:40:48.000 Like you said, it's kind of a protest vote, saying that, you know, I don't like any of these two candidates, so I'm going to vote for this person.

00:40:55.000 I think it's a good alternative.

00:41:11.000 Oftentimes people will accuse you of voting for the Democrat in the race.

00:41:15.000 In 2012 I got accused of voting for Obama I don't know how many times.

00:41:19.000 So I think that's the biggest struggle.

00:41:21.000 A significant portion of libertarians did.

00:41:23.000 I was shocked to find some of my friends at Reason who voted for Obama.

00:41:27.000 Shocked at that point.

00:41:30.000 And some of them, I guess, they have a discrepancy as far as where the priorities are with social issues.

00:41:35.000 And then, of course, there's some libertarians who just want to smoke a bunch of pot.

00:41:39.000 Do you have to pat people down at your meetings to make sure they're not bringing in the wacky tabacky? 1.00

00:41:48.000 Actually, there's a lot of libertarians who don't smoke pot.

00:41:52.000 I know, but that's what they constantly talk about.

00:41:55.000 The t-shirts clearly said there would be pot.

00:41:58.000 The t-shirts clearly said, yeah.

00:42:00.000 I think if we just legalize it, then we can just talk about other issues.

00:42:05.000 Yeah, I don't think libertarians would.

00:42:07.000 You know, and that's one thing.

00:42:08.000 A good example is Ted Cruz or myself.

00:42:10.000 Okay, here's one.

00:42:11.000 People say, well, you're not libertarian on pot.

00:42:13.000 States want to legalize pot? 0.91

00:42:14.000 Go ahead.

00:42:15.000 States want to vote and say no?

00:42:17.000 Fine.

00:42:18.000 Federal government should stay out of it.

00:42:20.000 How is that not reasonable?

00:42:21.000 Okay, but in your states, if...

00:42:24.000 It came up.

00:42:26.000 Marijuana legalization.

00:42:27.000 How would you vote?

00:42:28.000 What does that have to do, again, with the view of a legitimate role of government?

00:42:31.000 Two separate things.

00:42:33.000 I was just asking your personal opinion.

00:42:35.000 You know, well, I think we've seen Colorado.

00:42:35.000 Personal opinion?

00:42:38.000 It hasn't had the results that people claimed it would.

00:42:41.000 I don't know.

00:42:42.000 I'd have to think about it.

00:42:43.000 I've never smoked pot.

00:42:44.000 I'm open about that.

00:42:46.000 I don't begrudge people who do.

00:42:48.000 I think, generally speaking, if someone's a fully grown adult and they're healthy...

00:42:53.000 It's probably not that big of a deal.

00:42:55.000 My main issue, and this is where, again, libertarians, they should look at Ted Cruz as a state issue.

00:43:00.000 Boom.

00:43:01.000 Instead, they focus on him saying, I'd vote against it in my state.

00:43:01.000 Great.

00:43:04.000 It doesn't matter. 0.99

00:43:05.000 Just like it doesn't matter if you think he's a crazy Christian. 0.89

00:43:07.000 It doesn't matter if he's the guy who doesn't want the power that comes with the job. 0.91

00:43:11.000 Right?

00:43:11.000 Just like I could vote for an atheist if he's going, I just don't care.

00:43:15.000 I don't want to be enforcing my beliefs in anyone.

00:43:18.000 That's where I think a lot of libertarians get it wrong with Ted Cruz.

00:43:20.000 My issue is people vote.

00:43:23.000 It needs to be honest.

00:43:24.000 It's not medicine.

00:43:25.000 It doesn't lower crime.

00:43:27.000 Kids are not being jailed for smoking a joint.

00:43:29.000 That's not happening.

00:43:30.000 Our prisons are not overcrowded with people who are just single-time drug offenders.

00:43:34.000 That's not the case.

00:43:35.000 People say, hey, we want to vote.

00:43:37.000 We want to get high.

00:43:38.000 What we put in our bodies is our own business.

00:43:40.000 And the state says, sure.

00:43:41.000 I have no problem with it.

00:43:44.000 Yeah, I think all states should legalize it, though.

00:43:47.000 Okay, but they don't.

00:43:48.000 Is it okay?

00:43:49.000 Is that a libertarian viewpoint for states to have the right to say, no, we saw Colorado, we don't want it, and Texas or, I don't know, New Hampshire?

00:43:57.000 It's a libertarian position.

00:43:59.000 That's a difficult one, because some libertarians say it should be a state issue.

00:44:03.000 States should decide, but also...

00:44:06.000 You have to look at it from the individual's perspective.

00:44:08.000 States can also take away your freedom.

00:44:12.000 So I think some libertarians will say that all states should legalize it.

00:44:15.000 Or should states have the right to instate public schools? 0.66

00:44:20.000 Gosh.

00:44:21.000 I'm against the Federal Department of Education.

00:44:24.000 Yeah.

00:44:25.000 But I think if the state of Michigan says we want public schools just like our parents had, they should have the right to do it.

00:44:30.000 And if states say we don't want to...

00:44:31.000 That's a state issue.

00:44:32.000 Yeah.

00:44:32.000 So why not the same with drugs?

00:44:36.000 Because you have to look at it as an individual perspective.

00:44:40.000 That's how I view it.

00:44:41.000 But it's the same with public schools.

00:44:42.000 They're still taking taxes.

00:44:44.000 I'm saying both are the same issue.

00:44:45.000 It's not enumerated in the powers of the Constitution.

00:44:48.000 And I get so much flack for libertarians.

00:44:50.000 I'm going, listen, if you don't think I'm an ally, no one is an ally.

00:44:53.000 The only ally is someone who's saying, smoke weed, it cures cancer, in the comments section on YouTube.

00:45:00.000 I think, yeah, states go to it.

00:45:02.000 And you know what?

00:45:02.000 You're probably on the winning side where more states will legalize it than not.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, I hope so, because I think it's an individual freedom issue.

00:45:09.000 Also, it's going to save a lot of taxpayer dollars.

00:45:12.000 And as you said, I think police officers are even coming around on this issue and saying, no, we have better things to do than bust teenagers for smoking marijuana.

00:45:23.000 I certainly think they have better things to do.

00:45:26.000 Can we do a web-extended version there?

00:45:28.000 Because I think this is an interesting topic.

00:45:31.000 I think there's some interesting information that's come out with Colorado.

00:45:34.000 But I think we would agree on most of those things.

00:45:36.000 So if you're listening to Terrestrially Podcast, extended version Julie Borowski.

00:45:39.000 Stay tuned.

00:45:40.000 Stay tuned.

00:46:09.000 This is breaking news on Lower Wolf Crowder.

00:46:12.000 I'm Harry Matheson.

00:46:14.000 In the wake of controversy regarding Ben Carson's recent statements as a surrogate for Donald Trump's campaign, we take you live to an exclusive interview with our on-the-ground reporter, Jimmy.

00:46:27.000 Jimmy! 0.85

00:46:28.000 Dr.

00:46:29.000 Ben Carson, let's try this one more time.

00:46:32.000 If you felt this way about Donald Trump, Why would you feel it's your role to act on his behalf on the campaign trail?

00:46:42.000 Listen, I think we're in a position where I don't have a choice.

00:46:46.000 Okay?

00:46:46.000 I still have some questions about Mr.

00:46:49.000 Donald Trump.

00:46:50.000 Okay?

00:46:52.000 Did he cheat on his first wife?

00:46:54.000 Or his second wife?

00:46:57.000 How are they going to introduce government?

00:46:59.000 I want to know!

00:47:01.000 Don't you want to know?

00:47:02.000 I want to know!

00:47:02.000 Yes, Dr.

00:47:03.000 Ben Carson, we all want to know...

00:47:06.000 Does this mean that you'll no longer be acting as a representative of the Trump campaign?

00:47:11.000 No, I'll certainly still be representing the Donald Trump campaign with great pride and fervor.

00:47:19.000 We'll keep you up to date as this exclusive interview unfolds.

00:47:23.000 For breaking news on Water with Crowder, I'm Barry Matheson.

00:47:28.000 Water with Crowder

00:47:57.000 Bye. .

00:48:00.000 Glad to be back.

00:48:01.000 Second hour.

00:48:02.000 Of course, producing with me in studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.88

00:48:05.000 Follow him on Twitter at NotGayJarred.

00:48:07.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:48:09.000 draw your own conclusions.

00:48:10.000 We're good. 0.94

00:48:12.000 Do lots of not gay stuff there. 0.81

00:48:14.000 Do lots of it.

00:48:14.000 We'll be reading some tweets from AtIsJarredGay afterward.

00:48:19.000 AtIsJarredGay.

00:48:19.000 There are some people.

00:48:20.000 You should follow us on Twitter if you're not.

00:48:23.000 IsJarredGay. 0.75

00:48:24.000 AtIsJarredGay.

00:48:25.000 Some sleuths out there.

00:48:27.000 Some hardy boys.

00:48:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:48:31.000 They're looking into Not Gay Jared's past. 0.77

00:48:32.000 Not funny, haha, funny, queer. 1.00

00:48:34.000 That's what they're thinking.

00:48:35.000 Okay, before we go, I want to go into a segment here pretty soon.

00:48:40.000 Two things.

00:48:40.000 Not Gay Jared, I have this up on my screen, just got another text from the Fight for 15.

00:48:44.000 So keep in mind we talked about this in the first hour.

00:48:47.000 At no point have any of the multiple forms of contact that Not Gay Jared has given them Actually been alerted as to where or when the events take place.

00:48:57.000 Correct?

00:48:58.000 And now they're saying, what a day.

00:48:58.000 Correct.

00:49:00.000 We want to hear how yours went.

00:49:02.000 Text us back with your favorite story.

00:49:06.000 It's going to be a short text back.

00:49:08.000 Bring it up right here.

00:49:09.000 This is the thread of texts.

00:49:12.000 At no point have they told anyone, anyone who signed up online, where or when it's happening.

00:49:21.000 You can only know if you're a part of some double secret probation club.

00:49:25.000 I have no idea.

00:49:26.000 So again, keep this in mind when people talk about it.

00:49:29.000 This entire thing is a sham.

00:49:31.000 Also, really quick, we're going to have Super Mexican on, on the half hour there, and we're going to play Spot the Tranny. 0.92

00:49:39.000 Bring that game back.

00:49:40.000 People like the Spot the Tranny. 0.86

00:49:42.000 Which brings me, we want to talk about the bathroom laws.

00:49:45.000 We have so much to get to this week, but of course, the North Carolina, Mississippi, Brian Adams, Bruce Springsteen, and Ringo Starr have canceled their tours in North Carolina.

00:49:57.000 Well, I think one of them was a different state.

00:50:00.000 Bryan Adams was Mississippi.

00:50:00.000 One of them was Mississippi.

00:50:02.000 Yeah, for the same sort of law or whatever.

00:50:04.000 And the biggest losers are the other 49 states where they weren't canceled.

00:50:08.000 Of course, but not Egypt.

00:50:08.000 Yes, exactly.

00:50:10.000 Or Dubai, places where people like Bryan Adams play frequently, where they can throw you off a roof for frosted tips.

00:50:10.000 Not Egypt.

00:50:17.000 So keep that in mind. 0.75

00:50:18.000 And I know it's easy as low-hanging fruit to point out the hypocrisy.

00:50:21.000 I do want to... 0.99

00:50:22.000 We'll talk more about Springsteen and Bryan Adams and why they suck so badly.

00:50:25.000 The main thing with Bryan Adams is every time I hear a Bryan Adams song, they're not bad songs, but I'm thinking, oh, that would be a lot better if it weren't Bryan Adams.

00:50:33.000 He's the only artist where covers of his songs are better than the original songs.

00:50:38.000 You want to hear someone else do it.

00:50:40.000 That's fair.

00:50:41.000 You would rather hear Journey doing a Bryan Adams song.

00:50:45.000 Most anything, really.

00:50:46.000 Yes.

00:50:47.000 But the main thing, we'll come back to this, the issue, they say, well, it's anti-gay. 0.64

00:50:52.000 The only thing is transsexuals want to use a bathroom without proving anything. 1.00

00:50:58.000 A man with a penis puts on a dress, thinks he has the right to use a bathroom. 1.00

00:51:01.000 That's all it is. 1.00

00:51:02.000 There is nothing else.

00:51:03.000 There is nothing else.

00:51:04.000 This is a protection where not only do they use that bathroom, but businesses have the right to say, no, you use the gender that you are, and It protects businesses, of course, from things like the business. 0.87

00:51:17.000 Well, we'll get into that because there's so many businesses and examples and people say, well, why are you panicking?

00:51:21.000 It has happened.

00:51:22.000 So that's the entire thing. 0.99

00:51:24.000 Penis, men's room, this is why people are canceling their tours. 0.98

00:51:27.000 There is nothing more to it. 0.99

00:51:29.000 They try and say it's anti-gay because they're trying to feather in the at-will state, which means I can fire not-gay Jared because I don't like his face. 0.96

00:51:36.000 The fact that he happens to be not-gay is incidental. 0.78

00:51:39.000 And it has nothing to do with this law.

00:51:42.000 Every state is an at-will state, and then they carve out exceptions.

00:51:45.000 I don't like my face, so it would be completely reasonable.

00:51:47.000 It would be entirely reasonable.

00:51:49.000 It would be expected.

00:51:50.000 I would expect you to.

00:51:51.000 So that's what they're trying to tack on more.

00:51:53.000 It's not.

00:51:54.000 That's not what the bill is about.

00:51:55.000 The at-will state is separate.

00:51:56.000 But I want to get to something that's gone viral this week.

00:51:58.000 BuzzFeed video was questions for black people.

00:52:01.000 So we're going to do this live right now for those watching the live stream and listening.

00:52:06.000 And then, of course, it will be up as a video.

00:52:08.000 But BuzzFeed put out this video, questions for black people, of course, entirely black people, based, of course, on stereotyping black people and pigeonholing them and then bitching about how you're stereotyping and pigeonholing them.

00:52:21.000 So, yes, I know that I'm white, but I'm going to answer these questions not as a black person. 0.98

00:52:27.000 Not as a white person, not as someone with a penis, or lack thereof, but using logic. 0.89

00:52:32.000 let's go through the video if my dad is on fleet did we just mess this and i didn't hear it all right are you cute up there not kid here yep all right let's go to the video why is it a problem uh let's see Is this not going to work? 0.97

00:52:48.000 It's not going to work.

00:52:49.000 This may not work.

00:52:49.000 This may not work?

00:52:50.000 What happened?

00:52:51.000 What happened was we had no time to test this.

00:52:54.000 That's the problem.

00:52:56.000 So it's not going to work, the clips?

00:52:57.000 It may not work.

00:52:58.000 The clips may not work.

00:52:59.000 Okay.

00:53:00.000 Does that mean no?

00:53:00.000 That means you want me to move on.

00:53:02.000 Yeah, get back to me.

00:53:02.000 Get back to me.

00:53:04.000 All right.

00:53:05.000 Your punishment must be masterful.

00:53:08.000 But we will get back to that. 0.99

00:53:10.000 So, okay, let me take that time then with the transsexual, the tranny bathroom issue. 0.99

00:53:16.000 That's as simple as it is.

00:53:18.000 It has nothing to do with the at-will state being fired at will.

00:53:21.000 Gay people are not being targeted and being fired.

00:53:23.000 Now, why are states at-will states? 0.99

00:53:25.000 Because they want to avoid the exact kind of frivolous lawsuits that are now occurring when men with penises try and use a lady's restroom. 1.00

00:53:31.000 Guess what? 0.97

00:53:31.000 That's expensive for businesses. 0.97

00:53:34.000 They're trying to avoid that.

00:53:36.000 That's why it's an at-will state.

00:53:38.000 Two separate issues. 0.99

00:53:39.000 But they want to say, look, they can fire gay people at will. 1.00

00:53:41.000 They can fire black people at will. 1.00

00:53:42.000 They can fire white people at will. 1.00

00:53:43.000 They can fire men, women. 0.98

00:53:45.000 They don't have to give you a reason.

00:53:46.000 That's what at-will means.

00:53:47.000 It has nothing to do...

00:53:50.000 With tallywhackers in the ladies room. 1.00

00:53:52.000 When it comes down to this issue, of course, people talk about religious protection.

00:53:55.000 Remember when the LGBTQAAIP and a silent F, they said, listen, we don't care about your churches. 0.97

00:54:01.000 You do your own thing.

00:54:02.000 We just want our own civil rights.

00:54:04.000 Well, civil unions weren't enough. 0.99

00:54:06.000 Gay marriage, Supreme Court ruling, it's not enough. 0.99

00:54:09.000 Bathrooms, not enough. 0.59

00:54:11.000 Gender neutral bathrooms.

00:54:13.000 That's still hate speech.

00:54:13.000 Not enough.

00:54:14.000 Just saying, listen, we don't want to do the complications, so here.

00:54:16.000 Men's room, women's room, and let's create a gender neutral bathroom. 0.99

00:54:18.000 That's not enough.

00:54:19.000 Still hate speech.

00:54:21.000 Saying, okay, you have the right to get married. 0.87

00:54:23.000 It's entirely the same as straight marriage, but if a bed and breakfast doesn't want to host your wedding, they have the right to...

00:54:23.000 You're recognized in the state.

00:54:28.000 That's not enough!

00:54:31.000 Listen, yeah, of course, in the eyes of the law, you are totally married, but we can't force a bakery to be involved with your wedding. 0.63

00:54:38.000 Not enough!

00:54:39.000 Bakeries, pizzerias, bed and breakfasts, landlords, all have either faced lawsuits or been shut down.

00:54:49.000 And they said it wasn't going to affect any of you.

00:54:51.000 They weren't going to come for the churches.

00:54:53.000 Well now, guess what they're protesting?

00:54:54.000 Protection for churches and businesses.

00:54:57.000 That's their problem.

00:54:58.000 There are so many stops on this logic bus where you could have, ding, gotten off and there could have been some logical compromises.

00:55:05.000 That's not what they want.

00:55:06.000 That's not what the LGBTQAI number two squared wants. 0.94

00:55:12.000 It will never be enough.

00:55:13.000 And once this happens, in the bathroom, if there's a Supreme Court ruling denying basic biology, they'll move on to something else.

00:55:21.000 Maybe like Salon.com with pedophilia. 0.78

00:55:23.000 And people say, no, go to Salon.com.

00:55:25.000 They wrote several articles, I'm a pedophile, but I'm not a monster. 1.00

00:55:28.000 No, you are a pedophile and you're a monster. 1.00

00:55:30.000 This is mainstream leftism. 1.00

00:55:32.000 We're not talking fringe sites.

00:55:33.000 Okay?

00:55:34.000 This is where we are.

00:55:38.000 And one thing I do want to talk about, it's not necessarily about predators, because you can't argue that, namely because we haven't studied, hey, guys with dongs going into women's rooms in the United States, does that result in more sexual assault? 0.55

00:55:48.000 We don't know.

00:55:50.000 Understanding the sexually predatorial nature of men, I would guess so.

00:55:54.000 But let's not even argue that you don't even need to.

00:55:57.000 The overwhelming majority of women are wildly uncomfortable. 1.00

00:56:02.000 And feel very exposed when people walking, when men walking in there use the restroom.

00:56:08.000 There are incredibly, an overwhelming amount of men with daughters are wildly uncomfortable with their daughters being in a restroom with men.

00:56:15.000 If you want to talk about rape culture, we don't even need to get to sexual assault, right?

00:56:19.000 If a guy looks at you wrong on a campus at Columbia, it's rape culture. 1.00

00:56:27.000 But tossing a guy in the ladies' room with six-year-old girls?

00:56:31.000 No, that's not a problem.

00:56:32.000 What's wrong?

00:56:32.000 What's the matter with you?

00:56:34.000 What are you saying they're going to do?

00:56:35.000 I don't know.

00:56:36.000 I probably wouldn't be super uncomfortable if some, you know, Caitlyn Jenner-like sprite waltzed on into the men's room. 1.00

00:56:42.000 I probably wouldn't care.

00:56:44.000 But you know what?

00:56:45.000 I think my wife would if someone like me in a wig walked in. 1.00

00:56:49.000 I think she'd be uncomfortable.

00:56:52.000 And I don't think it'd be a safe atmosphere.

00:56:52.000 Very uncomfortable.

00:56:54.000 I don't.

00:56:56.000 Why should we completely, just absolutely run roughshod over the rights of 99.999-whatever percent of Americans for the rights of a very, very small percentage?

00:57:08.000 Not the rights, the wants.

00:57:10.000 They're not rights, they're not needs.

00:57:11.000 By the way, you don't have the right to use whatever bathroom you want.

00:57:12.000 It's not a right.

00:57:14.000 Certainly not in a private business.

00:57:16.000 If I walk into a...

00:57:19.000 By the way, subways never have bathrooms.

00:57:20.000 Subways?

00:57:21.000 They never have bathrooms.

00:57:22.000 You need the employee key.

00:57:24.000 The whole thing smells like a bathroom.

00:57:25.000 The whole thing smells like a bathroom.

00:57:26.000 And it stays with you for like days.

00:57:28.000 Oh my gosh, how far Subway has fallen.

00:57:31.000 But there are businesses all the time.

00:57:33.000 No, you can't use the bathroom unless you buy something.

00:57:36.000 They can't do that with Bob, who calls himself Bess.

00:57:40.000 That's an ACLU phone call waiting to happen.

00:57:45.000 You! 0.99

00:57:45.000 You, sir! 0.99

00:57:46.000 You, sir!

00:57:46.000 No bathroom!

00:57:47.000 Not a paying customer?

00:57:48.000 No bathroom!

00:57:48.000 Oh, you!

00:57:49.000 You with the dick in your dress! 1.00

00:57:51.000 Come on, write in! 1.00

00:57:52.000 Come on, write in!

00:57:54.000 I know it's illegal, but make sure everybody knows!

00:57:54.000 Videotape!

00:57:56.000 I'm tolerant, right?

00:57:58.000 The dude with the dog in the dress is coming in!

00:58:00.000 I let him in!

00:58:01.000 Not so fast!

00:58:01.000 You, sir!

00:58:02.000 You have to buy energy drinks, some Tic Tacs or something!

00:58:04.000 Scare your beautiful teleworker right around there into the ladies' room! 1.00

00:58:04.000 You! 1.00

00:58:08.000 Let everybody know!

00:58:09.000 At this gas station, we tolerate the LGBTQAIP! Do I have that right? 1.00

00:58:15.000 I forgot an A. Oh, I'm so sorry.

00:58:17.000 Take for free.

00:58:19.000 Don't call the ACLU. That's what's going to happen.

00:58:22.000 How many of you, tweet me, how many of you out there at S. Crowder have been denied using a bathroom in a private place?

00:58:28.000 They've always had that right.

00:58:32.000 Now we've just tacked on absurdity.

00:58:34.000 This is the LGBTQAIP bully pulpit. 1.00

00:58:38.000 It's not even a majority of gay people. 0.97

00:58:40.000 There have got to be tons of gay people out there who are going, they say, anti-gay law. 0.97

00:58:44.000 This has nothing to do with me! 0.97

00:58:46.000 Okay?

00:58:46.000 Don't lump me in with the highest suicide rate in the industrialized world, higher than Holocaust victims and American slaves and schizophrenics because they can't accept their basic biology because I have a different preference of friction.

00:58:58.000 It's not the same thing!

00:59:00.000 But they're piggybacking on it.

00:59:02.000 Not to create that visual, but I just created that visual.

00:59:04.000 We have to go pretty soon.

00:59:05.000 We're going to take some calls, right?

00:59:07.000 Yep.

00:59:07.000 We have a bunch of calls this week.

00:59:09.000 And, okay, your calls after the break.

00:59:11.000 Get it right.

00:59:12.000 LGBTQAIP is the real thing. 0.89

00:59:14.000 We're serious here.

00:59:14.000 Stay tuned.

00:59:15.000 Okay, business time. business time.

00:59:43.000 Really simple.

00:59:44.000 Some of you don't know where to find me.

00:59:46.000 LouderWithCrowder.com.

00:59:47.000 Half a dozen to ten articles every single day.

00:59:50.000 Twitter.

00:59:50.000 Follow me at SCrowder.

00:59:53.000 LouderWithCrowder podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud, or any other podcatching device.

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00:59:59.000 Or you can type in Steven Crowder on Facebook and be one of the million plus fans.

01:00:04.000 Or join the mailing list.

01:00:05.000 There are so many ways for you to stay connected.

01:00:07.000 You have no excuse.

01:00:08.000 You have no excuse, just like you have no excuse for those roles that are just cascading over your belt buckle you should be ashamed.

01:00:15.000 Unless you're a lady. 1.00

01:00:16.000 Then you deserve a medal.

01:00:17.000 Get her a medal.

01:00:18.000 Greetings, humans.

01:00:25.000 This is a Hopper Takeover.

01:00:27.000 The good news is I come in peace.

01:00:31.000 All you have to do is send Hopper all your sardines and cheeses and no one will be harmed.

01:00:38.000 You have until the next commercial break to enter.

01:00:42.000 Glad to be back.

01:01:07.000 A good time in the studio, live stream, today.

01:01:10.000 And I usually don't like to do this because I hate it when hosts just pump the phone lines and it can get kind of lazy.

01:01:16.000 Who wants to hear what?

01:01:17.000 No, but Johnny.

01:01:20.000 Johnny from Jacksonville.

01:01:21.000 From Jacksonville.

01:01:22.000 Jacksonville.

01:01:23.000 Nothing good goes on down there.

01:01:25.000 We have actually a lot of listeners.

01:01:27.000 This has started off to a weird start.

01:01:28.000 Anyway, but today we do want to open the phone lines and...

01:01:32.000 You know, hear what's on your mind?

01:01:33.000 So, Naki Jr., we have somebody on the line.

01:01:35.000 Yeah, Sam.

01:01:37.000 I mean, I don't think he said where he's from.

01:01:38.000 So, Sam, if you're there on line one, you were getting louder with Crowder, sir.

01:01:38.000 Okay.

01:01:43.000 Hey, Stephen.

01:01:44.000 Thanks for having me on the show.

01:01:46.000 You know, I appreciate you opening the airwaves to the common folk.

01:01:51.000 Thank you.

01:01:52.000 I appreciate it.

01:01:53.000 Sam, what's on your mind today?

01:01:55.000 Well, you know, I wanted to see, you know, your opinion on what you thought about this Donald Trump winning all the primaries.

01:02:03.000 Well, that's kind of a loaded question.

01:02:04.000 He hasn't won all of the primaries, and he's certainly not winning all of the delegates.

01:02:08.000 I get that the Trump people are upset about it, but these are the rules, and he's been organized poorly.

01:02:15.000 So I guess I don't know what your question is.

01:02:17.000 He hasn't won all the primaries, and there's a strong chance he doesn't get the nomination.

01:02:21.000 That's what I think.

01:02:22.000 Well, see, you're clearly coming from a certain place, okay?

01:02:27.000 Okay, well, what do you mean I'm coming from a certain place?

01:02:30.000 Well, you clearly don't like the guy, okay? 1.00

01:02:33.000 Now, what I want to know is, like, you know, he's got that comb over, you know, and when it blows over in the wind, you know, his head looks exactly like a d**k, which is what you suck all day long. 1.00

01:02:46.000 Okay. 0.99

01:02:46.000 That's not necessary. 0.99

01:02:48.000 If we're going to keep you on the line, you're going to have to keep it simple.

01:02:53.000 I don't want Nakejir to have his work cut out for him with the sensor button, okay? 0.97

01:02:58.000 I'm just saying, I think you would like the guy, since you like s***. 1.00

01:03:01.000 Okay, come on. 0.98

01:03:02.000 Come on, seriously.

01:03:03.000 Let's...

01:03:04.000 You got one last shot.

01:03:06.000 Do you have anything to say that's productive to add to the conversation?

01:03:14.000 Right. 1.00

01:03:15.000 Well, yeah, you're a d*** sucking, you're an a**. 1.00

01:03:18.000 You're supposed to scream the s***. 1.00

01:03:24.000 That's why we don't take phone calls. 0.99

01:03:26.000 That's why we don't take phone calls.

01:03:28.000 We have other people on the line.

01:03:30.000 When are we going to go to Donnie in Chicago?

01:03:33.000 I think a couple of segments coming up.

01:03:36.000 Okay.

01:03:37.000 Let's be calling in.

01:03:38.000 We did get some tweets.

01:03:39.000 People asked me, okay, they wanted us to talk about the Trump issue going on right now this week with Michelle Fields.

01:03:44.000 So we're going to have Ed Morrissey on, who's more of a policy wonk.

01:03:49.000 Listen, we had Ben Shapiro on.

01:03:50.000 I try to be fair in that situation.

01:03:52.000 It really comes down to, do you believe that you should grab a reporter or not?

01:03:55.000 Doesn't look like Lewandowski is going to be charged.

01:03:59.000 So there we are.

01:04:00.000 You know, does that mean there's justice?

01:04:03.000 No.

01:04:04.000 Any of the many, many dozens of people who tried to file police reports at the Lansing Right to Work protest when their tent was cut down and were told that they were unable will tell you that justice isn't always served.

01:04:17.000 But...

01:04:18.000 Listen, you have to be fair.

01:04:20.000 If you're going to go that route with the law, you see the ride, you bought the ticket, and there you are.

01:04:27.000 Those are the results.

01:04:29.000 So they're not going to charge him.

01:04:30.000 They did say he did grab her, and I don't have the exact wording in front of me.

01:04:35.000 It didn't seem like they were too fond of it, but they said an apology would have ended this whole legal procedure.

01:04:41.000 Imagine that.

01:04:43.000 But that's kind of a grown-up thing for the Trump camp.

01:04:46.000 Right.

01:04:47.000 So that's where we are with that.

01:04:48.000 I don't really have any more opinions on that.

01:04:50.000 Apparently, Michelle Fields is filing perhaps a defamation suit, and I know they threaten and say she doesn't want to do that because they'll dig through her past. 1.00

01:04:56.000 So, I don't know.

01:04:58.000 What am I going to speculate about at this point?

01:05:00.000 If it were me, I wouldn't go with a defamation suit at this point.

01:05:04.000 I would move on.

01:05:06.000 Yeah, I think there's only so much mud you could drag people through, and it doesn't really benefit anybody.

01:05:11.000 I don't know.

01:05:12.000 What do you get out of it?

01:05:14.000 A ruined career for everybody?

01:05:15.000 Well, I think what happened is it was shocking.

01:05:18.000 That's not the way you typically treat reporters.

01:05:19.000 I think it was genuine, the reaction.

01:05:21.000 I don't think someone went in there looking to get this.

01:05:23.000 People are trying to destroy this woman's career. 1.00

01:05:25.000 Like I said with Ben, listen, either you think it's okay to grab reporters or not.

01:05:31.000 As the level of which, then it's just a bunch of arguing over how severe was it.

01:05:35.000 It wasn't very severe.

01:05:36.000 And as someone who has been violently assaulted, as someone who has family members who have been very violently assaulted, I don't like belittling it.

01:05:48.000 But if that were my wife, and Lewandowski and I were alone, we have some words.

01:05:55.000 One thing, it doesn't change the fact that, listen, I can't speculate because the law happened, right?

01:05:59.000 You have to accept that sometimes, okay?

01:06:02.000 You may not like it, but you have to accept it.

01:06:04.000 I hope I'm being consistent here, because I know the Trump people will either way no doubt be mad.

01:06:09.000 And people on the other side understand, listen, you tried to file the charges, was justice served?

01:06:14.000 Maybe not, but this is where we are.

01:06:16.000 If they do a defamation suit, we'll keep you posted.

01:06:18.000 It doesn't change the fact that Corey Lewandowski is a punk.

01:06:21.000 Doesn't change the fact that every single time he grabs someone is when they're looking away.

01:06:24.000 I think it's very telling.

01:06:25.000 You know, when the protests are at the rally, right, the guy's looking at him, Lewandowski had nothing to say, nothing to do, and then he turns around and it's a yanking of the collar.

01:06:33.000 Any guy who's been in the arena, any guy who's wrestled in high school, any person who's ever been a combat or physical contact sport athlete, Knows that's a guy who wants out.

01:06:44.000 Knows that's a guy who doesn't want to take.

01:06:46.000 And same thing, grabbing a girl when always from behind.

01:06:49.000 Always coming up from behind.

01:06:51.000 That's my personal opinion.

01:06:53.000 But you know, I'm not a lawyer.

01:06:56.000 Okay?

01:06:56.000 So, I don't think we have a bunch to talk about that.

01:06:59.000 Here's something.

01:07:00.000 People are talking about this.

01:07:01.000 We'll talk with Ed Morrissey about this, okay?

01:07:04.000 Ted Cruz is doing really well with the delegates, right?

01:07:06.000 He's cleaning up delegates.

01:07:08.000 And Trump is now complaining...

01:07:09.000 I think it's just because he understands how it works.

01:07:11.000 He understands how it works.

01:07:14.000 Someone can correct me, and Ed Morrissey no doubt will.

01:07:17.000 He knows this as well as anybody, and that's why we're having him on.

01:07:20.000 The rules have been out there since August, and not a one has changed.

01:07:25.000 None of them have changed.

01:07:27.000 You may not like the rules, but these are the rules.

01:07:31.000 Something else.

01:07:32.000 People are saying, oh, it's not about the popular vote.

01:07:34.000 It's not representative of the popular vote.

01:07:36.000 Well, you know who benefits the most from that right now?

01:07:38.000 Donald Trump.

01:07:40.000 I read this over here.

01:07:41.000 We have it from Ricochet.

01:07:42.000 Great site.

01:07:43.000 More wonky than me, but I read them every day.

01:07:46.000 So, so far, Donald Trump has drawn 37% of the primary votes total.

01:07:51.000 That's his ceiling.

01:07:53.000 But he's won 45% of the delegates.

01:07:56.000 So why are you complaining now?

01:07:57.000 Like, for example, he only won 45% of Florida, gets away with all 99 delegates.

01:08:04.000 So actually, if you look proportionally, Donald Trump proportionally has far more delegates than even the lead that he has.

01:08:11.000 And, of course, we know now that that's switched, where he's behind Ted Cruz in the national polls.

01:08:16.000 Now, listen, I'm not saying it's a flawless system, but you can complain when it benefits the other guy, and then remain silent when it benefits you.

01:08:25.000 Where was Trump when he was saying we shouldn't do winner-take-all?

01:08:28.000 He's still banking on winner-take-all in New York.

01:08:31.000 The rules have not changed.

01:08:34.000 You saw the ride.

01:08:35.000 You bought a ticket.

01:08:36.000 What are we coming back with?

01:08:38.000 More calls?

01:08:39.000 Super Mexican. 1.00

01:08:39.000 Ah, Super Mexican coming up. 1.00

01:08:41.000 And now for Donald Trump Plays Family Board Games.

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01:09:01.000 Okay, your turn.

01:09:04.000 Okay, it's my turn.

01:09:05.000 What are you doing?

01:09:06.000 What are you doing here, okay, with Baltic Avenue?

01:09:08.000 You're sitting at Baltic Avenue with the hotel.

01:09:10.000 You're not doing anything with it, okay?

01:09:12.000 I can do whatever I want.

01:09:13.000 Okay, that's not true.

01:09:15.000 That's not how the country works, okay?

01:09:17.000 You can't sit there and do nothing with it.

01:09:19.000 There's got to be some kind of...

01:09:20.000 Listen, this...

01:09:21.000 I'm going to call my lawyer.

01:09:23.000 I hope your lawyer has a lot of vowels in his last name, okay?

01:09:26.000 And I'm going to make sure that you don't ruin...

01:09:29.000 Baltic Avenue used to be great, okay?

01:09:31.000 Until you took it over, okay?

01:09:33.000 It used to be fantastic.

01:09:34.000 Frankly, what I'll do with Baltic... 1.00

01:09:35.000 This whole game is rigged. 0.98

01:09:36.000 This whole piece of s*** game is rigged. 0.98

01:09:40.000 Stay tuned for more Donald Trump Plays Family Board Games, brought to you by Milton Bradley and Al Jazeera. 0.96

01:09:49.000 Whoa, Jared, what are you doing? 0.95

01:09:51.000 Shoot bad guys! 0.98

01:09:52.000 With what? 1.00

01:09:53.000 AR-15!

01:09:54.000 Where'd you get it?

01:09:55.000 AR-15.com!

01:09:56.000 Oh, there's another one!

01:09:57.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:09:58.000 Yeah!

01:09:58.000 You got him!

01:09:59.000 Thank God for AR-15.com!

01:10:01.000 They have AR-15 and accessories for sale and the best advice there is on the web!

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01:10:12.000 That's the best place to go, and that's the takeaway, because this commercial's about to stop!

01:10:37.000 All right, our next guest will remain silent because we actually have intro music for him.

01:10:42.000 I just realized I was behind on Twitter, and so I had to let everyone know that he was coming on.

01:10:46.000 He has a fan base.

01:10:47.000 He is.

01:10:48.000 He's a great guy.

01:10:49.000 So, as long as the board is ready, let's go to our super racist intro, because when you hear this...

01:10:55.000 I am singing at the party.

01:11:02.000 I am singing.

01:11:03.000 It's my turn to sing at the party.

01:11:09.000 That means it's Super Mexican from therightScoop.com. 0.99

01:11:12.000 El Super, are you there with us?

01:11:14.000 Well, how are you doing?

01:11:15.000 I am doing well.

01:11:16.000 Okay, well, people know that's not how you speak.

01:11:19.000 I know.

01:11:19.000 Well, it worked the first time, but I guess it's not going to work again.

01:11:22.000 Well, we don't want to risk it.

01:11:23.000 You know, if someone out there who, you know, we have people who dissect everything, and they'll be like, they'll claim you're like a Joey Tribbiani.

01:11:29.000 Like, that is the worst Mexican accent from a Mexican ever. 1.00

01:11:33.000 Our fans are brutal. 0.92

01:11:35.000 This is actually happening to me right now.

01:11:38.000 This is amazing.

01:11:39.000 You're going to enjoy this, is that...

01:11:41.000 This is what I do whenever I call into a radio show is that, you know, as a joke, I start off with a, like, really bad Mexican accent. 0.55

01:11:47.000 Like, hello, how are you doing?

01:11:49.000 And then, like, I don't tell the host that I'm doing this, so they freak out.

01:11:52.000 They're like, oh my god, is that how I was actually going to talk?

01:11:54.000 Oh no.

01:11:55.000 And then, you know, ten seconds later, I'm like, I'm just kidding.

01:11:57.000 You know, that's not what I sound like.

01:11:59.000 That means they're racist.

01:11:59.000 Well, anyway.

01:12:01.000 This is true.

01:12:01.000 I do this for my podcast.

01:12:03.000 I do this for everything, right?

01:12:04.000 And there's these people out there who think that they don't understand that it's a joke, and so they think that I'm a fake Mexican because, you know, I use a fake accent at first, and then I talk in my regular voice.

01:12:19.000 Well, what is your background?

01:12:21.000 Incredible.

01:12:22.000 But, well, I was born in California, which is the northernmost point of Mexico.

01:12:29.000 And...

01:12:29.000 Right.

01:12:31.000 Both of my parents are from Mexico.

01:12:33.000 I was born here.

01:12:36.000 I'm American, but I'm of Mexican descent.

01:12:40.000 Are your parents short?

01:12:42.000 I am taller than both of my parents.

01:12:44.000 I knew it!

01:12:45.000 So, yeah.

01:12:47.000 I felt I was safe with those Vegas betting odds.

01:12:50.000 Yeah, we're good.

01:12:51.000 We're out right there.

01:12:52.000 Mexico.

01:12:54.000 Yeah, so I really apologize, but apparently I don't have enough melanin in my voice.

01:12:59.000 Like, I need to work on that, so I'll try to...

01:13:02.000 Yeah, you do need to work on it.

01:13:04.000 And listen, I mean... 0.81

01:13:06.000 I don't want to Mexicans shame you, but I'd feel satisfied if you Mexicans shamed yourself. 1.00

01:13:12.000 You've had a busy week.

01:13:14.000 So, Roger Stone, for those who don't know, former Trump active, what do you call him, former Trump operative, he doesn't work with him anymore.

01:13:21.000 I think he was the campaign manager or something, or advisor, or strategist.

01:13:25.000 What was the official title, do you know?

01:13:26.000 Well, he was like his aide.

01:13:28.000 He's a longtime friend.

01:13:29.000 He's known him for many, many years.

01:13:31.000 And right when he – when Trump began his presidential campaign, he was fired all of a sudden.

01:13:38.000 And ever since then, he's become this Trump operative.

01:13:43.000 And they have the ability to say, well, he's not a part of the campaign.

01:13:48.000 But everything – anytime something really shady happens around Trump, Roger Stone is there.

01:13:54.000 So – Yeah.

01:13:56.000 Well, I wanted to talk about that because therightscoop.com is not a pro-Trump site.

01:14:00.000 You're one of the few.

01:14:01.000 And, you know, the problem is we've invited plenty of people on and they just won't do it.

01:14:05.000 They won't argue on the show publicly.

01:14:07.000 Many people out there, surrogates have all been invited, don't want to do it.

01:14:11.000 People who are big advocates, some of whom are friends of mine, they say, well, this is a behind-the-scenes thing.

01:14:18.000 It's not like, I mean, listen, we've had...

01:14:18.000 So it's hard.

01:14:20.000 We've had communists on and terrorists who want me dead.

01:14:23.000 So if people out there who are legitimate sites, not if you have 100 followers, want to make the case, you're more than welcome to.

01:14:29.000 But Roger Stone was saying he was going to post addresses.

01:14:32.000 And a lot of people thought that wasn't poor taste.

01:14:35.000 And you were calling him out a lot.

01:14:36.000 And then he directly tweeted you, right?

01:14:40.000 Yeah, it was a very nondescript thing.

01:14:43.000 I don't want to make a big deal about it, but it is kind of weird because what he tweeted is basically we've been going after him because, at least to us, it's the most obvious thing in the world, right?

01:14:53.000 You fire this guy.

01:14:54.000 He actually ran the Dirty Tricks political wing of Nixon's campaign way back in the day.

01:15:00.000 Yeah.

01:15:01.000 All of a sudden, you know, he's calling for riots and protests.

01:15:06.000 He's giving out addresses of people's names who are delegates, who are anti-Trump delegates.

01:15:12.000 And so this is the clearest thing in the world to us.

01:15:14.000 I don't know why other people aren't covering it.

01:15:18.000 And they said, well, you didn't talk about it later in the interview where he said peaceful.

01:15:21.000 It's like, okay, he said day of rage, and he was going to post addresses.

01:15:26.000 Listen, I don't like Bernie Sanders, okay?

01:15:30.000 I'm never going to post Bernie's address or people who support him and say, let's start a day of rage.

01:15:36.000 I would hope that we could both agree on that, Super Mexican. 1.00

01:15:39.000 You can peacefully rage, apparently.

01:15:42.000 You can peacefully rage.

01:15:43.000 Peacefully, you're just like...

01:15:44.000 Rage doesn't mean what you thought it meant.

01:15:46.000 I'm Kind of angry.

01:15:49.000 Rage means peace. 1.00

01:15:50.000 Penis means vagina. 1.00

01:15:51.000 Sorry, L-Super. 1.00

01:15:52.000 There you go.

01:15:53.000 That's how it goes.

01:15:54.000 So, have you had anything behind the scenes as well?

01:15:56.000 Or just, or no?

01:15:58.000 Not yet, yeah.

01:16:00.000 So what he did is he sent this little tweet, and we really go hard on him because he really does seem like kind of a scummy guy, and so I rail on him. 1.00

01:16:10.000 I just say, this is Trump's lackey, and he's kind of a scumbag. 0.99

01:16:14.000 And so there was one of the headlines, and he responded. 0.99

01:16:17.000 He just says, you know, I love you too.

01:16:19.000 I thought, that's really odd.

01:16:22.000 Had you directly at-replied him, or was he just the subject of the article?

01:16:27.000 I think he was, yeah, he was monitoring, you know, articles about him.

01:16:31.000 And so I think, you know, it was kind of a heads up, like, hey, you know, we're watching you.

01:16:37.000 Right. 0.93

01:16:37.000 Which is not something you want to hear from a psycho like him who has billionaire backing, you know. 0.93

01:16:42.000 Well, no, no, no, don't you hear? 0.62

01:16:44.000 He stands up against the billionaires.

01:16:46.000 This is true.

01:16:47.000 He stands up against the establishment by posting addresses to people who were elected by their neighbors on a day of rage, a peaceful day of rage, L. Superb.

01:16:57.000 Well, that's because, you know, we're taking away their vote, so that's why we deserve to be hunted down with pitchforks and torches.

01:16:57.000 Exactly right.

01:17:06.000 But no, it's completely absurd. 1.00

01:17:07.000 And see, this is the thing that kills me, and I'm sure you get the same thing, is that all of these troglodytes, like these illiterate morons, and like we said last time we were talking about, that's not all of them. 1.00

01:17:18.000 What is your problem? 1.00

01:17:20.000 You're an insensitive a**hole! 1.00

01:17:22.000 Continue. 1.00

01:17:23.000 There are some decent Trump people.

01:17:26.000 But the loudest ones are real creeds. 1.00

01:17:26.000 That's fine. 1.00

01:17:31.000 And they come after me, and I'm sure you've gotten this too, where they say that I'm an establishment chill and that the GOP conjured me up and that I'm a product of the establishment.

01:17:42.000 It's insane.

01:17:44.000 I've been speaking out against the establishment for years now.

01:17:47.000 But all of a sudden, if you're not on the Trump train, you are the enemy.

01:17:51.000 Well, Donald Trump wants it both ways.

01:17:52.000 And he says, well, nobody likes, frankly, nobody likes Ted Cruz.

01:17:55.000 None of these politicians like him.

01:17:56.000 They like me.

01:17:57.000 And then he says he's the one who's going to fight the politicians.

01:17:59.000 And there's no track record of it.

01:18:01.000 Yeah, you know what?

01:18:02.000 And that's one thing that bothers me.

01:18:03.000 I like him.

01:18:04.000 But a lot of these hosts, listen, I'll say it.

01:18:06.000 Mark Levin, you guys have supported, has been really good about this.

01:18:09.000 And you can hear the frustration in his voice.

01:18:10.000 But Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and some of these people on Fox News, when they set it up as though Trump but the establishment, they never say Trump and you know what?

01:18:19.000 And strong Tea Party conservatives who don't like him.

01:18:21.000 It's a sleight of hand.

01:18:23.000 And I know that they know better.

01:18:25.000 I don't know about you, but that seems to me like someone who's hanging on to a listenership and a dying medium and not being entirely forthright.

01:18:37.000 Am I out of line?

01:18:38.000 I think that's true.

01:18:40.000 I mean, I think that's kind of what Trump represents.

01:18:43.000 It's really weird because Trump represents so much of the criticisms that liberals have been making against conservatives, and he just fulfills them.

01:18:53.000 You know what I mean?

01:18:54.000 So his supporters are older.

01:18:58.000 They actually don't care about conservative principles.

01:19:01.000 They're very pragmatic.

01:19:04.000 I don't think they're pragmatic.

01:19:06.000 I think they're selfish.

01:19:07.000 I understand where you're coming from, but I think that gives a lot of these people too much credit.

01:19:13.000 I don't think it's pragmatic when there's no actual economic solution.

01:19:16.000 It's just, I want no free trade.

01:19:19.000 How?

01:19:19.000 He's going to negotiate a good deal.

01:19:21.000 Oh, sure.

01:19:22.000 But I understand what you were saying.

01:19:24.000 Yeah, it's a – no, you're right.

01:19:26.000 That's not exactly the word for it.

01:19:29.000 It's – we have the strain in America that – and a lot of people talked about it is that we just want problems solved.

01:19:35.000 We're very impatient.

01:19:36.000 Like if there's a problem, just solve it.

01:19:38.000 And I think proper, rational, philosophical conservatism says, hey, sometimes – There are just problems that we need to wrestle with and they're not specifically solvable.

01:19:49.000 In fact, one of my heroes is Thomas Sowell.

01:19:52.000 I think one of the epitome of conservative thought is this quote from him, which I think is utterly brilliant.

01:19:59.000 And he says, there are no solutions.

01:20:01.000 There are only trade-offs.

01:20:04.000 I'm not even joking.

01:20:05.000 I'm like Chris Matthews when I say it.

01:20:07.000 I get tingly about it because I think...

01:20:10.000 That sums up conservative thought.

01:20:13.000 Like, if somebody is selling you a solution, like, we should just do this and it's going to solve something.

01:20:18.000 It's like you're full of it.

01:20:20.000 Every time that you have power and it's collected at the top and they're going to make a huge decision, there's going to be people who are negatively affected by it and there's going to be people who are positively affected by it.

01:20:32.000 If somebody is telling you from the left or the right that they have this absolute solution that's going to fix everything, They're usually lying.

01:20:38.000 Well, that's antithetical to everything people railed against with Obama, right?

01:20:41.000 Like, if people say the number one, well, it's immigration, I'm a single-issue voter.

01:20:44.000 You know, if you're going to be a single-issue voter, it should be about the disproportionate amount of power.

01:20:49.000 In the last eight years, you could argue, in the last 16 years, George Bush did it too, that has been given to the executive office.

01:20:56.000 Schoolhouse Rock.

01:20:57.000 Three branches of government.

01:20:58.000 We're not in balance anymore.

01:20:59.000 If you want to talk about the key issue, that's the key issue, right?

01:21:04.000 And so you want the guy who doesn't really want the job.

01:21:07.000 Sometimes you want the guy where they go, hey, I'm poor.

01:21:09.000 Hey, I lost my job. 0.96

01:21:11.000 And he goes, yeah, yeah, you know, that sucks. 0.86

01:21:13.000 Can't help you. 0.98

01:21:15.000 Sometimes that's what's needed.

01:21:17.000 That's exactly right.

01:21:18.000 Yeah.

01:21:20.000 And there's too many people who – I was really shocked by this.

01:21:24.000 I thought that we were the rational party that kind of understood that not everything has a solution and you can make things better or you can make things worse, but you can't positively completely solve everything.

01:21:37.000 And Trump comes on the scene and is like, I am going to wave my magic wand and I'm going to fix everything.

01:21:44.000 And these people are falling for it.

01:21:46.000 And you look at them and you're like, wow, like you sound like a Democrat.

01:21:49.000 That's what Democrats do. 1.00

01:21:50.000 They think that you can solve – that you can wave this magic big government wand and solve everything.

01:21:56.000 And that's just – that's not us, but – Have you noticed something?

01:22:00.000 Because you started off, and we were kind of in the same boat, where we always made fun of Trump because he's comedy gold.

01:22:05.000 But we were like, listen, I understand the value in sort of shattering political correctness, and I think we were on the same page there.

01:22:10.000 Let's see what happens.

01:22:11.000 And then we realized he was never going to espouse things that we believed in.

01:22:14.000 We went, okay, well, here we are.

01:22:16.000 And there was a transition.

01:22:17.000 And have you noticed this?

01:22:18.000 I have no problem with people, like you said, you say, listen, I don't care about any of those things anymore.

01:22:22.000 I just want a wall.

01:22:23.000 Or you know what?

01:22:24.000 I just want to do it with free trade.

01:22:25.000 I'm fine with those people.

01:22:27.000 You have those people, and then you have some people who had to do a lot of mental gymnastics, sort of the Christian Tea Party conservatives, or even just the Ron Paul sort of libertarian conservatives.

01:22:38.000 And I feel like you're seeing some of those people now go, okay, this isn't what I thought.

01:22:42.000 Have you noticed that?

01:22:44.000 A little bit, yeah.

01:22:45.000 I think even early on, Ron Paul himself said that he wasn't going to endorse anybody because nobody was really espousing the views of libertarianism.

01:22:55.000 And I think I'm seeing a little more of those people come around because they're – I don't throw myself in with that crowd completely, but I do agree with them on a lot of things.

01:23:04.000 At least they're principled.

01:23:05.000 They're very principled about these things and probably – You know, to an extreme, like, that's the fault, is that they're overly principled on a few things, and they want to jettison everything else out, having to do with social conservatism and things like that.

01:23:17.000 But in any case, they are actually very principled, and I think what they're seeing is that, you know, this guy is, like you said, the antithesis of what they...

01:23:27.000 I think they first thought, we have to go to a break soon, I think, and we can talk about it, we'll come back, you're playing Spot the Tranny, right?

01:23:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:33.000 Okay, great.

01:23:34.000 Yeah, you know, we'll all lose our jobs.

01:23:36.000 I think they thought, hey, libertarians, they were pulled between destroying the two-party system, but then they realized this could be actually worse than the rhinos.

01:23:46.000 So I understand they were tired of Republicans, like we all were, and then there was another fork where, okay...

01:23:52.000 Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are not the typical Republicans.

01:23:55.000 And now there's another choice.

01:23:56.000 All right.

01:23:57.000 Super Mexican. 1.00

01:23:58.000 We'll come back.

01:23:59.000 Your favorite game, Spot the Tranny. 0.98

01:24:01.000 Yes.

01:24:02.000 Tons of hate speech ahead.

01:24:03.000 Ted, stay tuned.

01:24:03.000 This week in Cultural Appropriation.

01:24:32.000 Sakuraba, your application here at the University of Michigan is nothing short of impressive.

01:24:39.000 Thank you very much.

01:24:40.000 I tried to bring you my family a great honor.

01:24:42.000 Well, you've certainly done that.

01:24:44.000 Thank you.

01:24:45.000 Are we clear?

01:25:01.000 Yeah.

01:25:03.000 Uh...

01:25:05.000 Well, we've got to figure out the, um, you know, you really just screw me with the fight for you.

01:25:10.000 I don't understand.

01:25:11.000 I know it may seem counterintuitive, but because you people have been so successful, we actually have the opposite of a quota, and we're going to give your spot to somebody who's worse.

01:25:24.000 I know they didn't tell you, but you can make a few phone calls.

01:25:26.000 That's the point.

01:25:26.000 I can't know.

01:25:28.000 You know what the problem is?

01:25:29.000 I've only got so much time on my hands.

01:25:30.000 They didn't email me.

01:25:31.000 I text them.

01:25:32.000 I signed up for the texting.

01:25:32.000 They didn't text me.

01:25:34.000 I understand.

01:25:35.000 That's how unions operate.

01:25:36.000 And this is only because of my arrest.

01:25:38.000 Well, I can't know how unions operate if you don't tell me how unions operate.

01:25:42.000 I don't live in this world.

01:25:43.000 I can't come in and not know ready to take in costume.

01:25:48.000 And there should be an order where I hear it before that.

01:25:53.000 You understand that, right?

01:25:54.000 You groups are just so successful.

01:25:56.000 I have brought a greater dishonor under my family.

01:25:59.000 Oh, my God!

01:26:02.000 No, no, don't stop him!

01:26:02.000 Stop!

01:26:04.000 We have to respect his culture.

01:26:09.000 Goodbye, weird.

01:26:15.000 Join us next week for more in Cultural Appropriation.

01:26:20.000 When it's party, we will party hard.

01:26:48.000 All right.

01:26:49.000 We are back with Super Mexican. 1.00

01:26:52.000 At Super Mexican, spelled with two O's.

01:26:55.000 Are you with us, sir?

01:26:57.000 Okay, you are with us.

01:26:57.000 Yes.

01:26:59.000 And have you ever seen this game before?

01:27:04.000 Are you aware of the rules?

01:27:06.000 I don't think I have.

01:27:08.000 Okay, so let me set it up for you.

01:27:09.000 We've played it a few times.

01:27:11.000 We played it last time, most recently with Gavin McGinnis.

01:27:13.000 So, I have said that I have a tranny dar, and I've not been fooled yet. 0.98

01:27:18.000 That is very easy to determine.

01:27:20.000 This is my argument, and so Not Gay Jared, my producer, sets up pictures, and we play it.

01:27:26.000 You and I can compete here to see, and I'm the reigning champion.

01:27:29.000 We're going to see a picture, and we're going to...

01:27:32.000 Simple.

01:27:33.000 Is it a transgender, or is that a real male or woman?

01:27:36.000 And then we're going to tally up the score.

01:27:38.000 Any questions?

01:27:40.000 I think I got it.

01:27:40.000 All right.

01:27:41.000 And you're comfortable.

01:27:42.000 It's okay.

01:27:43.000 We don't expect you to be.

01:27:44.000 I don't think you can be.

01:27:46.000 If you're comfortable with this game, there's something wrong with you.

01:27:48.000 Well, you're on Lauder with Crowder.

01:27:50.000 Jared, let's go to...

01:27:56.000 And now, live from Transylvania, it's time to play Spot the Trans. 0.99

01:28:04.000 We have high production values here, L-Super.

01:28:14.000 Jared, let's get the game started.

01:28:15.000 We are going.

01:28:16.000 Okay, ready for number one.

01:28:17.000 This is for you, Steve.

01:28:18.000 This is for me.

01:28:18.000 I'm going to give you three seconds here.

01:28:20.000 Tell me, tranny or not a tranny? 0.94

01:28:22.000 Here we go. 0.96

01:28:24.000 Oh, okay.

01:28:25.000 I'm going to say I'm not a tranny with that one. 1.00

01:28:28.000 I'm going to say that's a woman. 0.92

01:28:29.000 Do we ask Super 2 or is it just me?

01:28:31.000 It's just you.

01:28:32.000 What do you think?

01:28:32.000 I think that's a woman.

01:28:35.000 It's not a tranny. 0.94

01:28:37.000 Okay.

01:28:38.000 Wow.

01:28:38.000 I would have gone with that too.

01:28:39.000 That's the first time ever.

01:28:40.000 Which will win from the record.

01:28:41.000 That's first.

01:28:42.000 All right.

01:28:43.000 And here we go for Super.

01:28:44.000 This one's for you.

01:28:45.000 All right.

01:28:45.000 This one's for you.

01:28:47.000 There you go.

01:28:48.000 Look at that one there.

01:28:50.000 That's rough.

01:28:51.000 I think that's actually Steven Crowder, so I'm going to go with a guy.

01:28:57.000 That's a guy.

01:28:59.000 This is Hatespeed.

01:29:01.000 We try and avoid that on this program.

01:29:02.000 We try and avoid that.

01:29:03.000 You can't judge by...

01:29:04.000 It's not fair. 1.00

01:29:07.000 Pardon my French, but you're an a**hole! 1.00

01:29:10.000 I hope I'm in myself clear, super Mexican. 1.00

01:29:12.000 That was fair.

01:29:14.000 A**hole! 0.97

01:29:14.000 Okay. 0.97

01:29:15.000 We have one more for you.

01:29:16.000 All right, Stephen, two more for you.

01:29:17.000 Okay, here we go.

01:29:18.000 Boom.

01:29:19.000 What is it?

01:29:20.000 That's a transexual. 1.00

01:29:22.000 Yes. 0.67

01:29:22.000 You think so? 0.67

01:29:23.000 You think so?

01:29:23.000 Let's get the ending.

01:29:24.000 It's a transexual! 0.99

01:29:26.000 Okay.

01:29:26.000 You're right.

01:29:29.000 Supa, back to you.

01:29:30.000 Ready?

01:29:31.000 Wow, these are rougher than I thought.

01:29:32.000 These are rough.

01:29:32.000 They're not easy.

01:29:33.000 They're not easy.

01:29:34.000 All right.

01:29:34.000 Here you go.

01:29:35.000 Because I've seen some in my day.

01:29:37.000 Oh.

01:29:41.000 Be honest now.

01:29:43.000 Let's not revert to the Mexican accent.

01:29:45.000 We need you to be honest because we have to tally up the scores.

01:29:47.000 I'm very scared right now.

01:29:48.000 I'm very scared right now, Steve.

01:29:51.000 Yeah, I'm going to go with Tranny on that one.

01:29:54.000 You're going to get sued!

01:29:57.000 And we're going to!

01:30:00.000 Super.

01:30:02.000 This is not good.

01:30:03.000 You're not playing nicely on the program.

01:30:05.000 This is not good.

01:30:06.000 Alright, Steven, last one for you.

01:30:07.000 Ready?

01:30:08.000 What's the score?

01:30:09.000 Super's up by one.

01:30:10.000 But he's got a lawsuit.

01:30:12.000 Boom.

01:30:14.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:30:14.000 What do you think? 0.87

01:30:15.000 No.

01:30:16.000 No, that's a woman. 1.00

01:30:17.000 That's got to be a woman. 1.00

01:30:19.000 It's a tranny. 1.00

01:30:20.000 What? 0.96

01:30:21.000 No joke.

01:30:23.000 Tranny model. 0.99

01:30:24.000 My hot streak has come to an end. 0.99

01:30:27.000 Is your wiener confused?

01:30:29.000 I don't...

01:30:29.000 Is it really confused?

01:30:30.000 My whole body's confused.

01:30:33.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:30:35.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:30:36.000 Come on.

01:30:36.000 Okay.

01:30:36.000 All right, let's go.

01:30:37.000 You're giving all the easy ones to Super, I would argue.

01:30:39.000 No, no, no, no.

01:30:40.000 Last one, Super.

01:30:41.000 Ready?

01:30:41.000 Here we go.

01:30:42.000 Boom.

01:30:44.000 Hmm.

01:30:46.000 That's a tough one.

01:30:47.000 Buzz your girlfriend. 1.00

01:30:49.000 Woof.

01:30:52.000 What do you think?

01:30:53.000 Unfortunately, I think I dated that thing. 1.00

01:30:57.000 Is this more acceptable in Mexico slash California?

01:31:01.000 I know.

01:31:02.000 Maybe in California.

01:31:03.000 I don't know about Mexico.

01:31:05.000 I'm going to go with not a guy.

01:31:09.000 I'm going to call the ACLU. You have, gosh.

01:31:13.000 Super Trav.

01:31:14.000 No, it's El Super.

01:31:17.000 Super Mexican. 1.00

01:31:18.000 Okay, what's the score?

01:31:19.000 Super Mexican wins.

01:31:20.000 He wins.

01:31:21.000 I'm surprised.

01:31:22.000 I mean, he's sued out of his mind.

01:31:24.000 I mean, he's got nothing left.

01:31:26.000 Super, if you won, you have to come back to defend your title.

01:31:26.000 Here's the thing.

01:31:31.000 So I don't know if you want this kind of heat.

01:31:33.000 Uh, I say, uh, I say bring it.

01:31:37.000 Okay.

01:31:38.000 Yeah.

01:31:38.000 I don't want a piece of you.

01:31:40.000 I want the whole thing!

01:31:41.000 He wants it.

01:31:42.000 Alright, that was...

01:31:45.000 Live from Transylvania, this has been...

01:31:50.000 Sputting the Trannies. 1.00

01:31:53.000 Twitter comments on if you're comfortable with this game you are not gay Jared. 0.94

01:32:05.000 Also, they said that our mic was hot during the last break, and I should fire you.

01:32:11.000 Sorry, but Super Mexican seemed relatively comfortable with it. 0.99

01:32:14.000 He didn't seem too rattled.

01:32:17.000 Well, if you're going to fire him, apparently I'm going to get sued into oblivion, so I might be looking for a job.

01:32:22.000 Maybe I can take that guy's job.

01:32:24.000 Well, I don't know if you want that job because it already comes with the baggage of several lawsuits with not J. Jared.

01:32:31.000 Oh, that's not going to work.

01:32:32.000 Yeah.

01:32:32.000 Namely for me.

01:32:34.000 This is 100% accurate.

01:32:35.000 Yeah, he's my indentured server.

01:32:36.000 Yeah, that's no bueno.

01:32:37.000 No bueno at all.

01:32:38.000 So how do you see this happening?

01:32:39.000 We're going to talk with Ed Morrissey.

01:32:41.000 Do you think Trump gets the nomination?

01:32:41.000 How do you see this happening?

01:32:43.000 Do you think it goes to a contested convention?

01:32:45.000 You know what?

01:32:46.000 The only way he doesn't get the nomination, and we go to a contested convention, I think, is if the GOP holds the line, and they never hold the line, and they've already given signs that they're a little spineless on this.

01:33:00.000 If they actually cared about the principles of conservatism, I think they would have gone after him a little earlier and a little quicker.

01:33:07.000 And they didn't.

01:33:08.000 So I could see them caving, you know, even before the convention.

01:33:12.000 The only way to save us is if Ted Cruz gets a surge, and we're not seeing that in the polls yet.

01:33:17.000 I'm hoping for it.

01:33:18.000 I'm praying for it.

01:33:19.000 I'm praying to all my aspect gods, but I'm not sure if it's going to happen.

01:33:23.000 I don't think prayers are very relevant to them without human sacrifice.

01:33:29.000 That's why your people haven't done super well.

01:33:31.000 It's in the fine print.

01:33:33.000 I've got to read the fine print, man.

01:33:35.000 I saw Apocalypto.

01:33:36.000 I know what I'm talking about.

01:33:37.000 What a great movie.

01:33:39.000 Really?

01:33:40.000 I love that movie.

01:33:41.000 It never ended.

01:33:43.000 All right.

01:33:44.000 Super Mexican, thank you so much for being a good sport, and you have to come back to defend your title.

01:33:48.000 Absolutely.

01:33:49.000 You're going down.

01:33:50.000 That is Super Mexican. 1.00

01:33:50.000 Thank you. 1.00

01:33:51.000 You can read his stuff at therightscoop.com.

01:33:54.000 Highly recommend it.

01:33:55.000 Stay tuned.

01:33:55.000 Lighter with Crowder.

01:33:56.000 Stay tuned.

01:34:17.000 Brought to you by Milton Bradley and Al Jazeera.

01:34:20.000 Okay, right here.

01:34:21.000 I'm gonna go...

01:34:23.000 Jenga! 1.00

01:34:25.000 Jenga! 1.00

01:34:26.000 No, okay.

01:34:27.000 Frankly, no Jenga.

01:34:28.000 Look at this piece I have.

01:34:30.000 Okay, it's not even symmetrical.

01:34:33.000 Okay, what is this?

01:34:34.000 What is a piece like this?

01:34:35.000 It's not even a symmetrical piece for Jacob, okay?

01:34:36.000 Of course it's not.

01:34:37.000 You're changing the rules.

01:34:38.000 You're changing the pieces after we started the game, okay?

01:34:40.000 I want to look back at this and find out which one of you is putting in the asymmetrical...

01:34:45.000 I am going to do, okay?

01:34:47.000 Such brutal things to whoever is putting asymmetrical pieces in Jacob, okay?

01:34:52.000 I'm going to do such...

01:34:52.000 Okay?

01:34:53.000 You're never going to believe it.

01:34:54.000 Whoever...

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01:35:04.000 Greetings, humans.

01:35:06.000 This is another Hopper Takeover.

01:35:09.000 Um, your package seems to have been lost in the mail, as I still do not have all the cheeses.

01:35:19.000 But Hopper is willing to overlook this mistake and forgive, provided they are sent promptly to Hopper's P.O. Box by the next commercial break.

01:35:29.000 I come in peace.

01:35:31.000 But only if I has all the cheeses.

01:35:34.000 Otherwise, I will be forced to roll on the couch.

01:35:38.000 The downstairs couch where I am not allowed to go.

01:35:42.000 And I usually do not go.

01:35:44.000 But you will force my hand in this situation.

01:35:47.000 I don't want to do it.

01:35:49.000 All you have to do is send all the cheeses.

01:35:53.000 Follow my instructions and no couches will get dirty.

01:35:59.000 Alright, I am glad to...

01:36:22.000 We'll try the phone calls one more time.

01:36:24.000 We are taking your calls this week.

01:36:25.000 It's atypical.

01:36:26.000 We don't do it a whole lot, but NotKJerd has...

01:36:28.000 Oh, we've had this caller before.

01:36:30.000 Donnie from Chicago, correct?

01:36:32.000 Yes, Donnie, you there.

01:36:34.000 Good, Donnie.

01:36:35.000 Good, thank you.

01:36:36.000 How are you, sir?

01:36:41.000 Okay, you're being far too kind.

01:36:43.000 So, all right, what can we do you for today?

01:36:46.000 Well, here's the deal.

01:36:47.000 You know, we got all this nonsense going on about everybody's already prophesying about what's going to happen at the GOP convention.

01:36:54.000 I mean, it's like already in the books.

01:36:56.000 But here's the thing.

01:36:57.000 I got to tell you.

01:36:58.000 I got to tell you.

01:36:59.000 I know you're a listening type of guy.

01:37:03.000 But, you know, if I were to go out and say, you know, I want a new car.

01:37:06.000 I want a new car.

01:37:07.000 I would find one that I really, really like.

01:37:11.000 It looks good.

01:37:11.000 It's flashy.

01:37:12.000 And people want it, okay?

01:37:15.000 It's just a thought for a minute because I'm going to try to put all this together.

01:37:19.000 Living in Chicago doesn't help because I see the disaster, the disaster of what the Democrats have done to a city.

01:37:27.000 It's in the hole.

01:37:28.000 It's like Detroit.

01:37:29.000 It's tanking.

01:37:30.000 You got gun laws that make absolutely no sense.

01:37:33.000 Chicago's been Democrats, is it since 31, I think, Mayor?

01:37:38.000 My father used to say, hey, every city needs a good, corrupt politician like Mayor Daley. 0.80

01:37:44.000 The problem is, if he was right back then, at least Mayor Daley could say, hey, shut up, we're doing it this way. 0.97

01:37:49.000 But now everybody's corrupt. 0.87

01:37:52.000 So, you know, you look at the Dems, everybody knows what it's done to people.

01:37:57.000 But here's the thing.

01:37:59.000 I can't get it through my head that the GOP has given us anybody To beat the nonsense of Hillary or even Bernie.

01:38:08.000 Look at the young generation.

01:38:10.000 They love this guy.

01:38:11.000 They love the guy because he speaks about stuff.

01:38:16.000 Listen, I'm around millennials all the time.

01:38:18.000 And I would not put down a hard-working millennial, a guy with a 4.0 who's doing well in college, and all this kind of stuff.

01:38:24.000 But the fact that they believe that there's a savior out there that's going to change all this is a disaster.

01:38:30.000 Well, I agree with you.

01:38:32.000 And don't you see that kind of happening right now with the GOP? That's the same messiah complex.

01:38:37.000 Well, it is.

01:38:38.000 It is, except this.

01:38:40.000 Here's the only thing.

01:38:42.000 The GOP has never, ever...

01:38:45.000 Given the idea that, listen, we'll just give you everything you want.

01:38:50.000 We never did that.

01:38:52.000 The Democrats have lived off of, hey, you know, let's give everybody free everything.

01:38:56.000 Okay, they've lived off of that.

01:38:58.000 Look what it's done to Detroit, to Chicago, everything.

01:39:01.000 Baltimore, sure.

01:39:01.000 But everything.

01:39:03.000 It's a disaster.

01:39:04.000 But working with the language, you know, people don't understand me.

01:39:09.000 I'm from Chicago.

01:39:09.000 I talk with these and them and those.

01:39:11.000 So I have to understand every once in a while when I want to have an intellectual conversation.

01:39:15.000 They might have to change my language.

01:39:18.000 What's happened is the GOP has not figured out yet how to talk the language of this generation.

01:39:26.000 And so that's why I say, you know, how are we going to combat this?

01:39:33.000 And all I'm saying is every time I hear Cruz talk, I just want to kill myself.

01:39:37.000 Every time I hear Kasich talk, I'm like, are you kidding me?

01:39:40.000 You've got great points, but the people that you're looking to connect with, they're not connecting, guys.

01:39:46.000 So you think Trump is the better communicator of them?

01:39:48.000 Well, no.

01:39:49.000 Here's what I'm saying.

01:39:51.000 Of everyone, he's dead last of anyone with the millennials.

01:39:56.000 But here's what's happened.

01:39:58.000 Here's what's happened.

01:39:59.000 For the GOP... They're the ones that have said, give us a new car.

01:40:04.000 We want a new, flashy car.

01:40:07.000 We want something with power, with pizazz, with Zesto.

01:40:11.000 That was my point.

01:40:13.000 All these old cars are sitting in the driveway, and the GOP, instead of going, look, we can't give these people these cars, why didn't they build somebody from within over the last four freaking years?

01:40:25.000 Why did they pick a guy with sense that can communicate?

01:40:30.000 I can't listen to Cruz.

01:40:32.000 I can't listen to cases.

01:40:33.000 I can't do it.

01:40:35.000 It drives me nuts.

01:40:37.000 Donnie from Chicago, thank you for calling in.

01:40:38.000 We appreciate it.

01:40:39.000 And I think it's a valid question.

01:40:43.000 I think some would argue that was Cruz.

01:40:45.000 Listen to someone who voted for Cruz in Texas.

01:40:48.000 There's a reason that Marco Rubio lost Florida big and Ted Cruz won Texas big.

01:40:54.000 Two people, same job, came up the same way, anti-establishment tea party.

01:41:02.000 One's voting constituency felt betrayed, and one said, okay, we got what we asked for.

01:41:07.000 Not everyone necessarily likes it, but that is a study in contrast.

01:41:12.000 And I do agree.

01:41:13.000 Listen, people talk about this all the time.

01:41:15.000 I'm talking like Daddy from Chicago.

01:41:19.000 Talks like Dennis Farina.

01:41:20.000 He sticks with you.

01:41:22.000 People talk about this a lot.

01:41:23.000 You see all these conservative provocateurs or these authors right now who are kind of in their death throes saying, oh, you know, Mexicans, blacks, they talk about these voters. 0.54

01:41:35.000 We need white people. 0.97

01:41:36.000 There are people out there right now saying it's about white people. 0.99

01:41:37.000 We'll never win blacks. 1.00

01:41:38.000 We'll never win Mexicans. 1.00

01:41:39.000 That's what Democrats want. 0.95

01:41:40.000 We need white people. 0.97

01:41:41.000 You are looking at it the wrong way, and it's a Democrat way of thinking.

01:41:44.000 If Republicans just minimize their losses...

01:41:49.000 In people under 35 to low double digits.

01:41:53.000 Meaning if they lost it, I don't know, 60-40, as opposed to the giant margins by which they're losing them now, they never lose another election.

01:42:02.000 It's a much bigger voting base under 35.

01:42:04.000 You could even extend that number to under 40.

01:42:07.000 But certainly 35 and under.

01:42:08.000 I'm not just talking 25 and under.

01:42:10.000 35 and under.

01:42:11.000 Okay?

01:42:13.000 If you could change that voting base by 10 points, you could still lose it by a big margin, just not as mammoth.

01:42:22.000 Republicans would never lose another election.

01:42:26.000 And that'd be in perpetuity.

01:42:27.000 Because you'd be building something.

01:42:30.000 It's a future vote.

01:42:31.000 You're not just talking about who's black today, who's white today, who's Mexican today.

01:42:36.000 Okay, let's look at the demographic numbers.

01:42:37.000 Republicans have had a very, very serious problem there.

01:42:39.000 And that's reality.

01:42:42.000 And no one wants to talk about it.

01:42:44.000 Something else.

01:42:45.000 We talk about communication.

01:42:46.000 Okay, let's talk about communication.

01:42:47.000 We'll have...

01:42:49.000 Ed Morrissey.

01:42:50.000 Ed Morrissey.

01:42:51.000 Do we have more calls after?

01:42:52.000 We have one more call after.

01:42:53.000 I think we're going to take one more call or one, two more calls.

01:42:55.000 And then Ed Morrissey, I think.

01:42:55.000 Okay, one more call.

01:42:56.000 Why are you fidgeting around there?

01:42:57.000 Oh, no, no, fine.

01:42:58.000 Okay, we're fine.

01:43:01.000 This thing right now is the New York values thing.

01:43:04.000 People are getting mad at Ted Cruz.

01:43:05.000 I had an email about that today.

01:43:06.000 That was a subject from a Trump email because I had signed up for...

01:43:10.000 Ted Cruz hates New York values.

01:43:12.000 Here's the thing. 0.97

01:43:13.000 This is just such populist pandering bullcrap, right? 0.94

01:43:16.000 Any conservative, any moderate, any non-far leftist who lives in New York would hear that and go... 0.98

01:43:25.000 Unless you're one of those dummies who thinks that because you're New York, you have to like the Rangers. 0.96

01:43:29.000 Or you're from Philadelphia, you have to like the Phillies. 1.00

01:43:32.000 If you're one of those stupid people who ties your identity in some city, there's no helping you. 1.00

01:43:36.000 But you know what? 1.00

01:43:37.000 Any conservative who lives in New York City goes, hmm, you know what?

01:43:39.000 Yeah.

01:43:40.000 I am a Republican, but I'm in a city where I legally am not capable of owning a gun to protect my family and my apartment.

01:43:48.000 Also, landlords are being jailed if they don't allow trannies to use whatever bathroom they want. 1.00

01:43:53.000 Sorry, being fined.

01:43:55.000 Also, they wanted to ban big ups.

01:43:57.000 You know what? 0.99

01:43:58.000 My city's values suck. 0.99

01:44:01.000 Put that on a grand scale. 0.99

01:44:03.000 Nationalism. 1.00

01:44:04.000 Sometimes it sucks. 0.98

01:44:07.000 I was born in Detroit. 0.97

01:44:09.000 My dad was born and raised in Detroit.

01:44:11.000 I left when I was younger. 0.99

01:44:13.000 Detroit values suck. 0.99

01:44:16.000 Anyone with common sense would look to Manhattan, would look to de Blasio, would look to Bloomberg and say, yeah, those values suck. 0.99

01:44:28.000 Why should that change? 0.86

01:44:29.000 I don't understand.

01:44:30.000 Tweet me at S. Crider.

01:44:31.000 I don't understand why this should change.

01:44:33.000 Well, I live in Texas, or I live in Utah, and I vote Republican.

01:44:39.000 What does that mean?

01:44:39.000 Oh, really?

01:44:40.000 Well, it means I believe in freedom of speech.

01:44:41.000 I believe in the Second Amendment.

01:44:42.000 I believe in federalism and constitutional limitations to the federal government, and then that power should be delegated to the states.

01:44:48.000 Okay.

01:44:49.000 Hey, yeah, I'm from New York, and I vote Republican.

01:44:51.000 Well, what does that mean?

01:44:52.000 It means I believe in strict gun control. 0.69

01:44:53.000 I'm against free speech, higher taxes, and socialized programs, and banning big gulps. 1.00

01:44:57.000 How does that change based on your geographical location? 1.00

01:45:01.000 Unless you are, in the most technical matter of speaking, a dumbass. 1.00

01:45:09.000 Unless you are an absolute moron. 1.00

01:45:12.000 Someone telling you, if you think you're a Republican, that your city's far, far, far left policies do not represent the mainstream values of Republican voters, it should be a non-issue. 1.00

01:45:29.000 It's only an issue for a stupid person who goes, New York values. 1.00

01:45:32.000 Oh, crap! 1.00

01:45:33.000 I'm from there! 0.99

01:45:34.000 I'm from there!

01:45:36.000 He insulted the place I'm from!

01:45:39.000 Oh, I'm not voting for that guy!

01:45:41.000 Oh, so you like the gun control?

01:45:43.000 You like the fact that the far-left policies?

01:45:45.000 You like the stringent government?

01:45:46.000 You like the high taxes?

01:45:48.000 No!

01:45:49.000 So what's the problem?

01:45:50.000 I'm from there!

01:45:52.000 I don't like how this feels.

01:45:56.000 I'm uncomfortable.

01:45:57.000 I don't understand.

01:45:57.000 Is it just me?

01:45:58.000 Not gay, Jared? 1.00

01:45:59.000 No, you know, I get it to a certain extent because that's kind of how Cleveland is.

01:46:03.000 I think it's these northeast cities, I think, more than most kind of have that sort of like we've been through hell and back at our own doing.

01:46:11.000 And we kind of band together.

01:46:13.000 You know, it's kind of a thing.

01:46:14.000 You just did it.

01:46:15.000 You just did it.

01:46:16.000 Because Cleveland's not been back.

01:46:18.000 They've been there.

01:46:18.000 Yeah, it's probably not.

01:46:19.000 And it's only going to get worse in June and July.

01:46:22.000 You know, Baltimore, New York City, Boston.

01:46:26.000 I don't know what it is.

01:46:27.000 I think it's just the cold winter is just kind of like...

01:46:29.000 It kind of puts you in a groupthink mentality of the city.

01:46:33.000 And you can't, you know, kind of get out of that.

01:46:35.000 You know, the sports, everything kind of plays into it as well, I think.

01:46:38.000 But...

01:46:39.000 I don't know. 0.85

01:46:40.000 But that said, if someone were to say, hey, Cleveland sucks, I'd go, huh? 0.75

01:46:43.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:46:44.000 Yeah? 0.60

01:46:45.000 Yeah, it's pretty sucky.

01:46:45.000 Yeah, it's bad.

01:46:46.000 You're not happy with the political representation, for sure, of Cleveland?

01:46:49.000 No, no.

01:46:50.000 I'm certainly not with Detroit.

01:46:51.000 No.

01:46:53.000 We've gotten to kerfuffles with people over there.

01:46:55.000 That's it.

01:46:55.000 Let's just remember.

01:46:57.000 Cleveland is not to be mentioned in the same sentence as Detroit.

01:47:02.000 Cleveland looks at Detroit and they...

01:47:04.000 You're everything that's gone wrong in this world! 1.00

01:47:06.000 You're self-consumed, no talent, mediocre piece of s***! 1.00

01:47:06.000 Yes. 1.00

01:47:10.000 That's what Cleveland says to Detroit.

01:47:12.000 Cleveland looks at Detroit and says... 1.00

01:47:14.000 You miserable, presumptuous, no talent! 0.98

01:47:17.000 Cleveland looks to Detroit and says, I knew the Grateful Dead from 1966! 1.00

01:47:22.000 Who the f*** are you?

01:47:27.000 We always get complaints about that, but if you have not seen that video, it is the best thing the internet has ever produced. 0.99

01:47:36.000 But I don't blame you.

01:47:38.000 I wouldn't want to be mentioned in the same sentence as Detroit.

01:47:40.000 I'm from Detroit.

01:47:41.000 There's a perfect example.

01:47:42.000 I can say, yeah, Detroit is way worse than Cleveland.

01:47:46.000 It's so cold in the D. And if Donald Trump said that, I wouldn't get mad at him.

01:47:49.000 I'd say, well, he got something right.

01:47:50.000 We'll be back.

01:47:51.000 more calls after this hey if you're listening to or watching this podcast there's a strong chance that you are not yet following me on twitter at s crowder where i'm tweeting all day long i'm I'm ticking off the social justice warriors.

01:48:18.000 You should see the amount of hate I get on there.

01:48:20.000 Far, far, far worse than any Fat Sports Illustrated model or Black Lives Matter charlatan. 1.00

01:48:26.000 So listen, it's free.

01:48:27.000 You get to be entertained and you can chime in.

01:48:29.000 Also, if you're following me on Twitter, you can send me your tweets and maybe you'll be lucky enough.

01:48:34.000 And I mean lucky enough because I have a lot of followers, okay, that they call me the follower machine.

01:48:39.000 To have your tweet to me or not Gay Jared included in our rockinest tweet of the week. 0.89

01:48:45.000 So follow me on Twitter at SCrowder.

01:48:47.000 If not, I don't want to say I have sights on your mother, but...

01:48:52.000 Oh, she's dead? 0.97

01:48:54.000 You're just saying that because I made a mom joke.

01:48:56.000 No, she's really dead? 0.75

01:48:57.000 well, you kind of walked into it.

01:48:59.000 And now for Donald Trump Plays Family Board Games.

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01:49:13.000 Yahtzee! 1.00

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01:49:29.000 I'ma do the things that I want to do I ain't got a thing to prove to you Alright, glad to be back.

01:49:48.000 And for the most part, we've had a good time here with the calls today.

01:49:52.000 Good show, good show.

01:49:53.000 Let's go to our line.

01:49:56.000 We have somebody calling in.

01:49:58.000 Yeah, we have Jack from Samson.

01:50:01.000 Jack from Samson.

01:50:03.000 You're on line one, getting louder with Crowder.

01:50:05.000 Hello, Steven.

01:50:06.000 How you doing? 0.99

01:50:07.000 Hey, uh, I wanted to ask why you like putting so many d***s in your mouth all day long. 1.00

01:50:13.000 Okay, Jared, what? 1.00

01:50:14.000 Jared, f*** it! 1.00

01:50:15.000 What? 1.00

01:50:15.000 This is your d*** to f***ing this. 1.00

01:50:18.000 I tried to cut it off fast enough. 0.99

01:50:26.000 Yeah, I don't think we're going to do a whole lot more.

01:50:27.000 You know, we had Donnie from Chicago.

01:50:30.000 Um...

01:50:32.000 By the way, one thing for people, when you talk about sort of to put it in some context here, my uncle and my brother have gone and taped a lot in India.

01:50:40.000 I just want to bring this up real quick.

01:50:42.000 And they've worked with some missionaries.

01:50:44.000 Just last night, they burned down 20 churches, more than 200 churches in the Olisabang province.

01:50:51.000 And I have right here, they want to kill 200 missionaries within the next 24 hours. 0.79

01:50:59.000 Yes, Islam. 0.96

01:51:00.000 So Christians are hiding in villages. 0.62

01:51:01.000 This is happening in India right now.

01:51:03.000 So that's when people say, well, how do you say this many more people are killed by Islamic terrorism than Timothy McVeigh?

01:51:09.000 Well, they want to put out 200 just in this province of India in one night for being Christian. 0.99

01:51:15.000 This stuff happens all the time across the world.

01:51:17.000 So all the time, any time you can snap your fingers, someone's being killed in the name of Islam somewhere in the world. 0.94

01:51:25.000 Not by a Muslim. 1.00

01:51:29.000 That's the sound of somebody being killed in the name of Islam. 0.99

01:51:34.000 With that amount of frequency. 0.96

01:51:36.000 Every single day.

01:51:38.000 Keep that in mind the next time they're hunting for some kind of a white Anglo-Saxon Ted Cruz supporting terrorist. 0.57

01:51:46.000 I wanted to talk about something.

01:51:47.000 We were talking about pot with Julie Borowski.

01:51:50.000 I don't know.

01:51:52.000 Hopefully we'll do a web extended version with her.

01:51:55.000 I think it's an entirely reasonable and tenable position.

01:51:58.000 Listen, states should have the right to legalize it if they want to.

01:52:00.000 I just don't like it being based on a lie.

01:52:02.000 But I also find it funny why they've made such a pivotal issue of weed, really a non-beneficial drug.

01:52:10.000 If you want to get high, fine.

01:52:11.000 But let's not say it's medicine or pharmaceutical companies.

01:52:14.000 They can make plenty of money.

01:52:15.000 They have several patents on chemical compounds from marijuana.

01:52:17.000 The only one that works is the one that they have for nausea and sickness associated with chemo.

01:52:25.000 But no one's in the streets picketing for that drug, right?

01:52:28.000 It's not fun because you're not getting high.

01:52:29.000 They're picking in the streets because they want to get blitzed.

01:52:31.000 I understand it.

01:52:32.000 I just want people to be honest about it.

01:52:35.000 The more compelling conversation to me would be something like steroids.

01:52:38.000 And the reason I was thinking about it was...

01:52:40.000 Are you talking about personal freedoms you're talking about?

01:52:43.000 They're talking about personal freedoms, but I want to take it extended.

01:52:46.000 Because these are legal drugs, and they are drugs that are wildly beneficial.

01:52:51.000 Steroids, right now they give to...

01:52:53.000 No.

01:52:56.000 But they're wildly beneficial to AIDS patients, burn victims, right?

01:53:00.000 They're prescribed.

01:53:01.000 They were invented, they're prescribed.

01:53:02.000 And there was a big scare that happened after the Russian and East Germans at the Olympics, right?

01:53:08.000 The steroid wars.

01:53:10.000 And so now they're vilified.

01:53:11.000 But these are legal drugs that have gone through the scientific process and are some of the most effective drugs known to man.

01:53:17.000 And a lot of the time, doctors would probably prescribe these to people, and they're afraid because of the DEA. I don't understand why libertarians don't focus on that more.

01:53:24.000 That's where you can make some headway.

01:53:25.000 The reason I was thinking about it was because she talked, we talked about drugs with her.

01:53:29.000 I was just reading today, I follow mixed martial arts.

01:53:31.000 There's a fighter named Lyoto Machida who just got fined for testing for a PED. PED is a performance-enhancing drug.

01:53:38.000 Now, Chael Sonnen says every single drug is a performance-enhancing drug.

01:53:42.000 If your doctor is giving you a drug that is not performance-enhancing, that's malpractice.

01:53:47.000 He cannot give you a performance-hindering drug.

01:53:51.000 The drug that was banned, and this is a private organization, USADA, their guidelines are wet, I don't want to get wonky for you, was DHEA. That's something you can, probably many of you watching might even be taking it, or it might be in one of your supplements and you don't even know.

01:54:09.000 Certainly if you have older parents or grandparents, it's most likely that some of them are, you can walk right now to Rite Aid, to CVS, and take that.

01:54:17.000 And it's banned in sport.

01:54:19.000 And this guy's name is going to be dragged.

01:54:21.000 And by the way, he didn't even test positive.

01:54:22.000 He disclosed it.

01:54:23.000 He was listening to supplements, you know, whatever, creatine, this, multivitamin, DHEA. And they said, oh, well, that's banned.

01:54:32.000 So you're going to be suspended.

01:54:34.000 And I'm sitting there thinking about this. 0.95

01:54:36.000 This is an issue that, again, we've dealt with in the media because of liars like Lance Armstrong.

01:54:40.000 I understand it because of people who abuse it.

01:54:42.000 But you were talking about athletes.

01:54:44.000 And I've given this a lot of thought.

01:54:46.000 I've gone back and forth on it.

01:54:48.000 You were talking about athletes who are putting their body under stress.

01:54:52.000 The lifespan for NFL players is not good.

01:54:54.000 For people who are in contact sports, it's not good.

01:54:57.000 We talk about concussions.

01:54:58.000 It's really bad.

01:54:59.000 Cutting weight is very difficult in these combat sports.

01:55:02.000 We know the long-term health ramifications, and we know that steroids would help.

01:55:06.000 We know that they would help these athletes.

01:55:07.000 We want them to perform to these best.

01:55:09.000 And by the way, if you think that most athletes aren't on them, you're delusional.

01:55:13.000 Okay?

01:55:13.000 Most of these, there's a significant portion of them are.

01:55:15.000 Ask any professional athletes.

01:55:16.000 Once they're retired, they go, oh yeah, it's absolutely rampant.

01:55:19.000 Why shouldn't they have the right to take those drugs? 1.00

01:55:22.000 You can tweet me at S. Crowder.

01:55:23.000 I really think it's a hard case to make that they shouldn't be taking it under a doctor's supervision.

01:55:28.000 Because it's a witch hunt and new drugs are developed.

01:55:31.000 Shouldn't athletes be allowed?

01:55:32.000 You can give them Percocet.

01:55:33.000 The addictive drugs, the painkillers, are rampant.

01:55:38.000 Rampant with people in professional sports.

01:55:40.000 Depression.

01:55:41.000 Rampant.

01:55:42.000 You can give them Zoloft.

01:55:43.000 You can give them all these antidepressants.

01:55:45.000 You can toss Oxy at them, which we know is bad.

01:55:47.000 It doesn't help you.

01:55:49.000 Or you can give them something that is possibly the most effective drug known to man.

01:55:53.000 Pick a list from whatever these steroids are.

01:55:55.000 Keep it monitored within healthy levels from a doctor.

01:55:57.000 And it will enhance this person's performance.

01:56:01.000 Their sole job is physically performing for you.

01:56:04.000 And we tell them, no, here's a bottle of Percocet.

01:56:07.000 You can't take what would actually help you heal.

01:56:10.000 And so I was just sitting there, I was watching this going, I was talking with my dad about it.

01:56:12.000 Can I get tested for something that you take?

01:56:15.000 By the way, it's not even that effective, DHEA. It's really mixed results.

01:56:20.000 Creatine is more effective.

01:56:21.000 Creatine is a very effective supplement.

01:56:23.000 That's one that I recommend to a lot of people.

01:56:24.000 If you're out there, you don't know what it is.

01:56:25.000 It's very effective.

01:56:27.000 But, I don't know, I want you to tweet me to S. Crowder.

01:56:30.000 I'm just curious as to why the line has been drawn at pot, something that's not proven.

01:56:34.000 Certainly not as time-tested as steroids, which can be prescribed by a doctor.

01:56:39.000 And many doctors will tell you, you know what, we prescribe these specific kinds for these kinds of injuries, but we can't.

01:56:45.000 And that's where I get more libertarian.

01:56:47.000 Again, I've never touched these drugs, I've never smoked pot.

01:56:51.000 But, uh...

01:56:53.000 I think if a doctor wants to prescribe them, they should.

01:56:55.000 I think doctors should prescribe them.

01:56:58.000 Have the right to.

01:56:59.000 If it works.

01:57:00.000 But we need to be honest about whether it works.

01:57:01.000 And we'll be back with Ed Morrissey, right?

01:57:03.000 Ed Morrissey.

01:57:03.000 Ed Morrissey after the break.

01:57:04.000 Stay tuned.

01:57:04.000 break.

01:57:05.000 Greetings, humans.

01:57:27.000 This is the final Hopper Takeover.

01:57:30.000 I have cleaned my nether regions four times since the last commercial break, but still have yet to see any cheeses.

01:57:41.000 I would like to give humans the benefit of the doubt, and if...

01:57:47.000 You believe that you should not send cheeses because Hopper does not have opposable thumbs and would not be able to open the cheeses.

01:57:55.000 I can assure you, I have taken the proper precautions, and you can send them at your earliest convenience.

01:58:04.000 And lastly- NOT GENERED ESCAPED! How

01:58:34.000 dare you?

01:58:35.000 I got up to dance because I was tweeting out that Ed Morrissey was going to end the program and you ruined the whole thing.

01:58:41.000 It's kind of my thing.

01:58:41.000 Tune it out now.

01:58:42.000 It's my thing.

01:58:43.000 It's my thing.

01:58:43.000 I ruined it all.

01:58:44.000 Tune it out now.

01:58:45.000 Okay.

01:58:46.000 Let's just pretend like that didn't happen.

01:58:48.000 Next guest, fine guest.

01:58:49.000 He hasn't been on in a while, but a longtime friend, personally, and he was on the show when the first show started, long before syndication, and then several markets complained and pulled us, and then more syndication, and then, of course, more pulling, and then more syndication.

01:59:02.000 Ed Morrissey, editor-in-chief at HotAir.com.

01:59:06.000 What's the official term, Ed?

01:59:07.000 Senior Editor.

01:59:08.000 Senior Editor at HotAir.com.

01:59:10.000 These terms are so hard to keep straight.

01:59:10.000 Okay, Senior Editor.

01:59:12.000 I know.

01:59:13.000 It's a nomenclature that kills you, Stephen.

01:59:15.000 What can I say?

01:59:16.000 Look at this beard.

01:59:16.000 You warned me about it.

01:59:18.000 How long has this been going on?

01:59:20.000 About a month.

01:59:21.000 Since CPAC. Okay.

01:59:23.000 Now, because I saw you on Morning Joe, and I didn't want to...

01:59:26.000 How long has that been happening?

01:59:27.000 Because if it had been happening for a year or something, and I had screwed up.

01:59:29.000 So what was the decision?

01:59:32.000 Well, okay, so this is kind of a funny story.

01:59:34.000 What happened was right before CPAC, I got a little rash on my lip right up here, and I thought initially, well, I'll just shave around it, right?

01:59:42.000 Well, that would have left me with a mustache, you know, right in there, and I thought that was a bad look at a conservative political action conference, so I thought, no, I've got to let the whole mustache grow.

01:59:49.000 And then I thought, well, if I'm going to let the whole mustache grow, I need something underneath it, because, you know, with the shaved head and just the mustache, I don't think that would work. 0.91

01:59:58.000 No, you'd look like a pedophile. 0.95

02:00:00.000 Yeah, pretty much. 0.92

02:00:01.000 I don't know if this works.

02:00:03.000 It does.

02:00:04.000 It does work.

02:00:05.000 You have a decent beard.

02:00:06.000 My question is, and then we have to get, because we only have one segment here.

02:00:09.000 My question is this.

02:00:10.000 How do you, you know, listen, I don't think I'm letting the cat out of the bag with the follicular situation.

02:00:15.000 How do you decide where to start the beard when there's no, you know, usually you just continue the sideburns.

02:00:20.000 What's that decision process like?

02:00:23.000 That decision process was like, what is it that I think I can actually sustain?

02:00:27.000 And I decided that this was it.

02:00:30.000 And I thought if it went all the way up to the top of the ears, it would, I don't know, look weird.

02:00:34.000 Not that this doesn't, but for some reason, this is the look that I kind of picked.

02:00:39.000 No, it works.

02:00:39.000 It works, because you don't want to grow it, and then you go full Jesse Ventura with the skullet, and that just doesn't work for anybody.

02:00:45.000 No, that's bad.

02:00:45.000 That's a bad look, too.

02:00:46.000 Okay, so here we are.

02:00:47.000 You have the new book, title of your new book, it's Going Red, right?

02:00:51.000 Going Red.

02:00:52.000 Okay, and you talk about, you get very strategic in this, talking about what votes determine the Republican election.

02:00:59.000 Real quick, just hit us with it, because I know you've been doing the press tour, and then I want to get into something current to tie it into, but Going Red, what's the premise?

02:01:07.000 The premise is that in order to win the swing states, the states that Republicans used to win before 2008, Republicans need to get back on the ground and discover who these voters are.

02:01:19.000 One of the big reasons why Republicans have lost in 2008 and 2012 is because they were relying on national messaging.

02:01:30.000 They had no idea who the voters were in these swing states and these swing counties, seven swing counties and seven swing states.

02:01:38.000 And the voters have changed.

02:01:41.000 Their concerns are different in each of these communities.

02:01:43.000 You can't rely on just a national message in a national election anymore.

02:01:48.000 You really have to run 435 congressional campaigns for president.

02:01:53.000 And it's most critical in states where voters are on the fence as to which direction they're going to go.

02:01:59.000 So that's what Going Red is about.

02:02:01.000 It tells the stories of these seven counties, these seven communities, so that people get a chance to know these people better.

02:02:06.000 They're fine people, terrific people.

02:02:07.000 I got a chance to spend five months touring and talking with them.

02:02:11.000 No, I don't like them.

02:02:11.000 I think they're all terrible people.

02:02:13.000 I know.

02:02:13.000 Okay, but let me ask you this.

02:02:15.000 Can this be done, Ed, without pandering, with still being consistent?

02:02:15.000 this.

02:02:19.000 Absolutely.

02:02:19.000 No, no, see, this is the thing.

02:02:20.000 If you are talking with the people in these communities, you're finding out what it is that their concerns are in those communities, and then you take the conservative agenda and show how it applies to these issues, to these problems.

02:02:34.000 Rather than just saying liberty, liberty, free markets, etc., you go into these different communities and say, hey, you've got a problem with the EPA and the Metropolitan Water District, and it's going to cost you hundreds of dollars a year for the next 20 years out of your pocket, because the EPA...

02:02:48.000 won't reconsider a plan for abatement.

02:02:52.000 This is the reason why overregulation is bad.

02:02:57.000 Not just saying overregulation is bad.

02:02:59.000 You have to tie it to people's lives.

02:03:00.000 And you have to come up with a positive agenda that's going to improve your lives.

02:03:04.000 Like Kasich running a positive campaign.

02:03:06.000 Let me ask you, point blank, who do you think?

02:03:08.000 No one, I don't know.

02:03:10.000 Maybe some people like him.

02:03:11.000 Occasionally there's a fan who pops up with a yard sign.

02:03:13.000 Which candidate do you think is most capable of doing that?

02:03:17.000 Well, look, I mean, I think that the candidates all have some qualities that lend themselves to this.

02:03:24.000 I think that one of the strong messages that I got from talking with people is that they're tired of ideological wars and...

02:03:31.000 They want somebody who's going to get things accomplished that are actually going to make a positive difference in their lives.

02:03:38.000 So that kind of leans against Ted Cruz.

02:03:39.000 But on the other hand, Ted Cruz is really good at getting on the ground and talking with people So you're telling me there's a chance.

02:04:11.000 We only have one segment.

02:04:12.000 I understand where you're coming from with that.

02:04:14.000 And we'll have you back on when we can do a longer segment.

02:04:16.000 We had to spot the tranny. 1.00

02:04:18.000 And thank you so much for having me on tonight.

02:04:20.000 I know that you squeezed me in.

02:04:21.000 We didn't squeeze you.

02:04:21.000 No, no, no.

02:04:22.000 And I wanted to have you in. 0.95

02:04:23.000 And then it was just the schedule got insane with the callers and not gay. 0.98

02:04:26.000 Jared will be fired.

02:04:28.000 I wanted to ask you something because you've written on politics for a long time.

02:04:31.000 You particularly understand the delegate game districts.

02:04:34.000 You understand that better than most.

02:04:36.000 What is the truth here?

02:04:37.000 Have the rules changed against Donald Trump?

02:04:41.000 Have they been the same?

02:04:43.000 I'm under the impression, am I wrong, they were out there in August and not a one has changed since August.

02:04:50.000 Certainly not since August, and most of the delegate allocation rules are really traditional.

02:04:55.000 Colorado changed up a little bit over a year ago, but only just to say that we're not going to have bound delegates.

02:05:01.000 The delegate selection process is the same as it's always been.

02:05:05.000 This is one of those sausage-making moments in American politics.

02:05:09.000 Most of the time, conventions are over before they even start.

02:05:13.000 They're just there to celebrate the nomination of the person who we've known for months is going to be the nominee.

02:05:19.000 This is the one year in a generation, the one cycle in a generation, where that's not the case.

02:05:24.000 And so now, all of a sudden, everybody has to catch up with these rules.

02:05:27.000 And a lot of people are being taken by surprise by these rules, but they're really the same rules that have been around for decades, in terms of delegate allocation, in terms of wooing delegates.

02:05:36.000 This is the way conventions have always been done when there isn't a clear nominee by the time the convention rolls up.

02:05:43.000 Exactly.

02:05:43.000 And that is designed to ensure that somebody who cannot get a majority of even the Republican vote doesn't go to a general, correct?

02:05:51.000 Right, right.

02:05:52.000 I mean, that's the overall purpose of it.

02:05:54.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:05:55.000 You have to demonstrate some competence.

02:05:57.000 You have to demonstrate a broad reach within the party that's going to nominate you.

02:06:01.000 Absolutely.

02:06:02.000 Well, that's why I talk about the two-party system.

02:06:04.000 I say the two-party system is to avoid a national version of what's happening with these primaries, where someone who can't get above that 35% threshold can take the country hostage.

02:06:13.000 And you've seen that in other countries with 30 or 40 parties.

02:06:16.000 And I come from Canada with a parliamentary system.

02:06:18.000 So I go, listen, two-party system isn't great...

02:06:21.000 But it's better than most alternatives, and it's really easy to say, man, corporate influence, but look at this nomination process in a primary.

02:06:30.000 Do we really want this kind of a quagmire in general?

02:06:33.000 The difference between this system and a parliamentary system is that we iron out the factional issues prior to the general election within the parties.

02:06:42.000 In a parliamentary system, not so much Canada, because there's probably only three parties in Canada.

02:06:47.000 Well, there's Liberal, Conservative, NDP, and then in Quebec, Bloc Québécois.

02:06:52.000 Bloc Québécois.

02:06:53.000 So four parties.

02:06:55.000 BQ is more of a Quebec-only party.

02:06:57.000 But they still run nationally. 0.98

02:06:59.000 It's just so silly. 0.81

02:07:01.000 But you take a look at Israel, and there's like, what, 12, 13 different parties. 0.82

02:07:05.000 In a two-party system, those parties would kind of be divvied up, and they'd vie for leadership within the party before the general election.

02:07:13.000 That's our two-party system.

02:07:15.000 So all we're doing is we're replacing the stuff that would happen in a parliament in the United States for four years now.

02:07:22.000 With this year-long process of ironing it out when we get to the convention.

02:07:29.000 It's the same type of function, we just put it ahead of the schedule, more or less, than parliamentary systems.

02:07:37.000 And I can understand people.

02:07:38.000 We've talked about this.

02:07:39.000 I think it was Obama.

02:07:40.000 Hillary Clinton won Texas.

02:07:42.000 Obama got more delegates.

02:07:43.000 I could be swapping them.

02:07:44.000 And then Mitt Romney won some states, but Ron Paul got more delegates.

02:07:47.000 This is not new.

02:07:48.000 Like you said, it's coming down to the wire.

02:07:51.000 So for the first time, people are educating themselves about it.

02:07:53.000 And I understand why some people are angry.

02:07:55.000 I get it with the Lindsey Grahams and Mitch McConnells.

02:07:57.000 I understand that.

02:07:58.000 I understand this sentiment.

02:08:00.000 But the point is, something is not being stolen from someone if you can't get over 35% or 37% of the Republican vote.

02:08:10.000 People are talking about this is posting a dress, Tea Party rioting in the streets.

02:08:14.000 No, this is a party.

02:08:15.000 It's not the government.

02:08:16.000 And this is one guy who doesn't even have 40% of the vote within one half of the country's voting electorate.

02:08:22.000 I just hope people keep it in perspective before they go to Cleveland and start banging down hotel room doors.

02:08:27.000 I think so.

02:08:28.000 I actually think that there's going to be a gap of about six weeks between the final primaries and the convention.

02:08:36.000 And I think what you're going to find is people are going to put those five or six weeks to pretty good use.

02:08:41.000 There's going to be a lot of wheeling and dealing to try to nail this down prior to the convention.

02:08:47.000 But even if it goes to the convention and you have seven or eight or ten or fifteen ballots before you get to a nominee, You know, that's okay.

02:08:54.000 That's what conventions actually are for.

02:08:56.000 They're the backstop for when your primary process doesn't pick a consensus nominee.

02:09:02.000 And that's why you elect delegates to go to a convention so that that can be done.

02:09:09.000 It's representative democracy.

02:09:11.000 Right.

02:09:12.000 It's like Congress.

02:09:13.000 It's like a private Congress.

02:09:15.000 Let's follow down the alternative, right?

02:09:15.000 Right.

02:09:16.000 Obviously, Trump doesn't want one vote representation.

02:09:19.000 He doesn't want that because he's the one benefiting the most from the delegate system and winner-take-all states, right?

02:09:24.000 There are no complaints with Florida.

02:09:25.000 And he's banking on New York.

02:09:28.000 A far higher percentage of delegates than his actual percent of the vote.

02:09:32.000 So people need to understand that.

02:09:33.000 And my thing is I've always tried to be consistent.

02:09:36.000 Consistency is what bothers me.

02:09:37.000 But let's go down the logic trail the other way.

02:09:39.000 Okay, just vote and that person wins.

02:09:42.000 Is it a good thing for someone who can't get over that 36% threshold to get the Republican Party?

02:09:47.000 Is that productive?

02:09:49.000 That's the only sort of – they would have to make that a tenable position for people who are yelling foul play right now.

02:09:55.000 Or am I incorrect?

02:09:56.000 No, you're right about this.

02:09:58.000 And bear in mind that the primary schedule was designed this time around to prevent that type of thing from happening as well.

02:10:06.000 The idea was to wrap up a nominee early.

02:10:09.000 Because remember, the primary kind of stretched out in the 2012 cycle, too, and Mitt Romney ended up taking a lot of damage, even though it was clear that he was going to be more or less the consensus nominee.

02:10:20.000 He didn't get it wrapped up until later in the primary.

02:10:23.000 And in the meantime, he was taking pot shots from fellow Republicans.

02:10:26.000 And then he had to spend all of his primary cash.

02:10:30.000 He had no cash left.

02:10:32.000 And then the convention was in the first week of September.

02:10:35.000 So he had no way to answer these attack ads that were coming from the Obama campaign.

02:10:38.000 Why don't you just go to all of his secret Mormon gold? 0.59

02:10:40.000 We know they have those hordes laying around.

02:10:42.000 He doesn't pay any taxes.

02:10:44.000 Ed, Ed, you're slipping on the fact game here.

02:10:47.000 You need to...

02:10:48.000 What can I say?

02:10:49.000 I forgot about the Mormon gold.

02:10:50.000 You forgot about the Mormon gold.

02:10:52.000 I forgot about that.

02:10:53.000 Oh my gosh, how could I forget about that?

02:10:55.000 That's what's really destroying the party, is the Mormon gold. 1.00

02:10:58.000 Yeah, that must be it.

02:10:59.000 Well, no, but...

02:11:00.000 But you're right.

02:11:01.000 I mean, so they front-loaded the primaries this time, so they didn't have to go through that.

02:11:06.000 But the problem was that they had a number of candidates who had viability.

02:11:10.000 And so what you've got is this four or five, six candidates that were vying for real votes in the first part of that front-loaded primary.

02:11:19.000 And so now what you've got is what's left over, and it's going to stretch all the way to the convention now because there is no consensus schedule.

02:11:26.000 Well, that was going to be my final question.

02:11:27.000 We have to hit a hard break.

02:11:28.000 Do you think we're going to a contested convention?

02:11:30.000 I think it's pretty likely at this point.

02:11:32.000 I mean, I think Trump could still get to 1237, but I think we're going to go to a second ballot or a third ballot in Cleveland.

02:11:38.000 Yeah, that's what I'm kind of expecting to see.

02:11:40.000 Going red.

02:11:41.000 Going red.

02:11:42.000 He spells it properly.

02:11:44.000 Ed Morrissey, we'll get you back on, and we'll play one of the games with you.

02:11:48.000 Maybe you and Supermax can...

02:11:49.000 Ed, thanks so much.

02:11:51.000 Absolutely.

02:11:51.000 We have to go, sir.

02:11:52.000 Love the beard.

02:11:53.000 Louder with Crowder.

02:11:55.000 Stay tuned.

02:11:55.000 We're going to wrap this all up in a nice...

02:11:58.000 Bow.

02:11:59.000 Because we can't wrap it up in a beard.

02:12:00.000 That's physically impossible.

02:12:02.000 Stay tuned.

02:12:02.000 And now for Donald Trump Plays Family Board Games...

02:12:19.000 Brought to you by Milton Bradley and Al Jazeera.

02:12:22.000 Okay, right foot on red.

02:12:24.000 Okay, right foot on red.

02:12:26.000 Oh! 0.60

02:12:27.000 Oh! 0.60

02:12:28.000 No!

02:12:29.000 Okay, you know what?

02:12:29.000 This game is rigged.

02:12:30.000 And don't think I don't know about your little secret, okay?

02:12:32.000 You are playing a game.

02:12:34.000 You've stacked the deck.

02:12:35.000 Okay?

02:12:36.000 It's rigged.

02:12:36.000 You're a professional gymnast.

02:12:37.000 Don't think I didn't do my research.

02:12:38.000 I have people, okay, who do the best research.

02:12:40.000 The best.

02:12:41.000 I did tumbling class when I was five.

02:12:43.000 She did tumbling class when she was five.

02:12:45.000 And you didn't disclose it.

02:12:46.000 Huh?

02:12:47.000 You didn't disclose any papers, any uniforms.

02:12:49.000 You didn't disclose it.

02:12:50.000 And you do, okay?

02:12:52.000 Lie. 0.93

02:12:52.000 Lying. 0.93

02:12:53.000 Lying Michelle. 1.00

02:12:54.000 Okay, I see you're lying Michelle.

02:12:56.000 We were just playing Twister.

02:12:58.000 You're not lying.

02:12:58.000 Oh, she's not lying.

02:12:59.000 Okay, look at this.

02:13:00.000 Look at this.

02:13:00.000 Look at the flexibility.

02:13:02.000 Huh?

02:13:02.000 What are you?

02:13:03.000 What are you, Miss Stretch Armstrong?

02:13:04.000 Huh?

02:13:05.000 Huh?

02:13:05.000 You Stretch Armstrong going to the ladies' room?

02:13:07.000 Huh?

02:13:08.000 It's all games rigged.

02:13:10.000 Stay tuned for more Donald Trump Plays Family Board Games, brought to you by Milton Bradley and Al Jazeera.

02:13:17.000 We'll be right back.

02:13:47.000 I don't know what you put in this drink.

02:14:00.000 I'm going to go.

02:14:01.000 That drink?

02:14:02.000 Only the specialist stuff.

02:14:04.000 It's ice.

02:14:04.000 Hold on one second.

02:14:06.000 Oh my lord, that was cold.

02:14:09.000 Ice will do that.

02:14:11.000 I have an insulated tumbler, and it seems to have gotten colder, and now my mouth hurts.

02:14:15.000 You're welcome.

02:14:16.000 So that was Ed Morrissey.

02:14:17.000 You had Ed Morrissey.

02:14:18.000 Going Red is his book.

02:14:19.000 I highly recommend it.

02:14:20.000 I know, you know, listen, we go from playing spot the tranny to thoughtful political discussion, but Ed Morrissey knows that pretty well. 1.00

02:14:27.000 And he's a kind man.

02:14:28.000 He's a nice man.

02:14:29.000 Usually we don't present other stories in the final segment, but I thought this was pretty important.

02:14:33.000 We just wrote about it tonight at louderwithcrowder.com.

02:14:37.000 By the way, the BuzzFeed segment that Not Gay Jared, for which you will be fired, we couldn't get working, that'll be up on the website probably tomorrow.

02:14:44.000 BuzzFeed released a wildly racist video stereotyping black people, and we're going to just answer their 27 questions that they thought were cute and show you why it's pure dinassery. 0.64

02:14:54.000 Here's the other story.

02:14:55.000 Bill Nye, a video, we have it up at the website, thinks, and he made the statement, that all, not global warming, climate change skeptics should be imprisoned.

02:15:09.000 I'm not going to play this right now.

02:15:10.000 You can go on the website.

02:15:11.000 His reason, and he said, for me as a taxpayer and a voter, the introduction of this extreme doubt about climate change is affecting my quality of life as a public citizen.

02:15:21.000 I'm glad he said public citizen and not scientist.

02:15:24.000 At least he dropped that moniker.

02:15:26.000 So, this is what we call the everything-goes-under-the-general-welfare clause, right?

02:15:33.000 515, where's that in the Constitution?

02:15:35.000 General-welfare clause.

02:15:38.000 I want free health care.

02:15:40.000 How is that considered?

02:15:41.000 Ah!

02:15:42.000 General-welfare clause.

02:15:44.000 I want free food.

02:15:45.000 Where does that go?

02:15:45.000 Ah!

02:15:46.000 General-welfare clause.

02:15:48.000 I don't want to use any bathroom.

02:15:50.000 Ah, general welfare clause.

02:15:51.000 I want to make sure that businesses have to serve me no matter what.

02:15:54.000 At any point, they have no right to say sorry.

02:15:57.000 Ah, general welfare clause.

02:15:59.000 Who's Jennifer Welfare? 1.00

02:16:00.000 Did I say Jennifer?

02:16:02.000 General welfare clause.

02:16:03.000 General welfare.

02:16:05.000 I'm going to write that down.

02:16:07.000 That's right!

02:16:08.000 He can be taught!

02:16:10.000 Sometimes.

02:16:11.000 And now we go further on down the trail and you have Bill Nye.

02:16:16.000 I want to jail all people who... 0.85

02:16:19.000 I want to, as noted non-scientist Bill Nye, jail, that includes 30,000 real scientists who actually signed a petition against climate change, let alone the millions of people who aren't convinced of man-made global warming, climate change.

02:16:35.000 Now, soon to be global cooling again after the last few years.

02:16:39.000 He thinks that all of these actual scientists should be jailed.

02:16:43.000 Well, how's that constitutional?

02:16:44.000 Eh, general welfare clause.

02:16:49.000 And they toss everything underneath it.

02:16:52.000 They want to jail you for having a different opinion.

02:16:58.000 And scientists.

02:17:00.000 He's not a scientist.

02:17:02.000 He's certainly not an atmospheric scientist.

02:17:04.000 You know who's a scientist?

02:17:06.000 Coach Mark Repto.

02:17:08.000 Degree in geology.

02:17:10.000 A lot of scientists, they like fracking.

02:17:13.000 When you actually get down to science, it is way more split.

02:17:17.000 And this goes back to...

02:17:20.000 Why?

02:17:22.000 Why jail them?

02:17:23.000 Why not argue about ideas?

02:17:24.000 Well, it's affecting my personal life as a citizen.

02:17:29.000 Ban farts.

02:17:31.000 If you're at that point...

02:17:32.000 There is a movement I can get on board with.

02:17:35.000 Well, I can't because Hopper would be hauled out here in cuffs.

02:17:38.000 He'd be the first to go.

02:17:39.000 It's true.

02:17:40.000 It's true.

02:17:41.000 But my point is you can't just sandwich everything in there.

02:17:43.000 And the left uses it to silence all voices of opposition.

02:17:50.000 Fight for 15.

02:17:51.000 There was no transparency.

02:17:54.000 No one was notified of where it was.

02:17:56.000 You sign up for the email, it was impossible.

02:17:58.000 Why?

02:17:58.000 Because they don't want the cameras rolling.

02:18:00.000 They don't want reporters to show up who might challenge their beliefs.

02:18:05.000 College campuses.

02:18:07.000 They're going to ban you. 0.99

02:18:08.000 We wrote about that on the website this week.

02:18:10.000 They're going to ban you if you offend people, if you trigger people on campus, right?

02:18:15.000 Conservatives are saying, hey, you can say whatever you want.

02:18:17.000 Sure, you want to do the piss Christ art? 0.92

02:18:20.000 Go ahead.

02:18:20.000 Bring that on campus.

02:18:21.000 You want to do all kinds of anti-Christian, anti-conservative?

02:18:24.000 You want to step on the American flag?

02:18:25.000 Absolutely.

02:18:26.000 Go ahead.

02:18:26.000 Conservatives say that.

02:18:28.000 Conservative groups on campus, anyway.

02:18:30.000 Leftists say, no, no, no, no.

02:18:31.000 We need them banned. 0.97

02:18:32.000 Kick them out. 0.92

02:18:33.000 Segregated spaces.

02:18:34.000 They don't want transparency.

02:18:35.000 They don't want that dialogue.

02:18:37.000 Bill Nye, non-scientist, wants actual scientists jailed.

02:18:46.000 Doesn't want a dialogue.

02:18:48.000 There is a consistent requiring of a lack of transparency on the left that you should find disconcerting.

02:18:55.000 And you should find equally disconcerting any time it happens on the right side.

02:19:00.000 And I'll give this to libertarians.

02:19:01.000 They really do focus on transparency.

02:19:02.000 We were talking about a guy like Justin Amash, who I don't agree with him on everything, justifies every single vote he makes on his website and social media page.

02:19:11.000 That sounds great.

02:19:13.000 Listen, we're not mob rule.

02:19:14.000 We are not total democracy.

02:19:16.000 But in a representative republic, isn't it great to have one who's transparent?

02:19:19.000 Whether you like him or not.

02:19:21.000 This is a trademark of the left.

02:19:25.000 And this is, listen, people will say, well, okay, you know, obviously sometimes we're making arguments on Lauder with Crowder and we're drawing parallels.

02:19:32.000 Bernie Sanders' fascism for mediocrity because he wants to socially engineer, right, classes.

02:19:38.000 And capitalism and free enterprise, we talked about this, classes are moving.

02:19:43.000 Bernie Sanders wants to ensure that doesn't happen.

02:19:44.000 That's fascism for mediocrity, okay?

02:19:47.000 We're using that as an analogy.

02:19:49.000 This is actual fascism.

02:19:51.000 How can you argue?

02:19:52.000 How can the left argue that this is not very blatant, literal fascism?

02:19:56.000 Jail people with whom I disagree.

02:20:00.000 And why isn't this front page everywhere?

02:20:03.000 You know, you have people getting mad.

02:20:05.000 They're saying, you know, that Ted Cruz wants to establish a religious oligarchy because he's a Christian.

02:20:11.000 Mark Ripto is an atheist.

02:20:12.000 He was on the show.

02:20:13.000 He said, no, actually, if you look, he doesn't want to do that at all.

02:20:15.000 He believes in those powers of the state.

02:20:18.000 Just like Rand Paul, deeply Catholic.

02:20:20.000 He does not want to establish a religious oligarchy.

02:20:22.000 What about a guy like Bill Nye?

02:20:25.000 And his views are mainstream leftism who wants to jail people for disagreeing with sketchy science.

02:20:31.000 By the way, climate change settled science.

02:20:34.000 Gender is fluid. 1.00

02:20:35.000 If you say you were born with a penis or vagina, that's hate speech. 0.99

02:20:38.000 That should be so alarming to you. 1.00

02:20:41.000 To Americans.

02:20:42.000 I hate to do that.

02:20:43.000 I'm not doing a doomsday thing.

02:20:44.000 Read the article.

02:20:45.000 Look at the patterns.

02:20:48.000 We need more dialogue.

02:20:49.000 We need more conversation.

02:20:50.000 We need more battles of ideas.

02:20:51.000 The left has disdain for it.

02:20:55.000 Know that, and know who's looking out for you.

02:20:57.000 That's us, Ladder with Crowder.

Louder with Crowder - April 15, 2016

#70 GIMME YOUR STUFF! Julie Borowski, Ed Morrissey and SooperMexican | Louder With Crowder

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