Louder with Crowder - #71 WIENERS EVERYWHERE! Curt Schilling, Dave Rubin, Gavin McInnes | Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 you found yourself at the junction where worlds meet Politics.

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00:00:19.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

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00:00:24.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

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00:00:29.000 You have a very unhealthy body.

00:00:30.000 You should have a horrible body image. 0.99

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00:00:37.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal. 0.97

00:00:41.000 You're a strange animal. 0.95

00:00:43.000 That's what I know. 0.99

00:00:44.000 You're getting louder with Crowder. 0.99

00:00:48.000 But you're a strange animal. 0.73

00:00:50.000 I got to follow. 0.98

00:00:53.000 Oh, I'm in this speedy just as hell.

00:00:57.000 Glad to be with you.

00:00:58.000 We are working now.

00:00:59.000 Hopefully everyone can hear me.

00:01:01.000 We did this on the live stream online before now.

00:01:03.000 We are live with you, of course.

00:01:05.000 Not Gay Jared will be fired after the break. 0.92

00:01:05.000 Thank you. 0.92

00:01:08.000 I am your host, Stephen Crowder.

00:01:09.000 Producing with me in studio, as always, is Not Gay Jared. 0.99

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00:01:13.000 Follow him at Not Gay Jared. 0.82

00:01:16.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:01:16.000 He is not gay.

00:01:18.000 I'm assuming that we're good.

00:01:18.000 Draw your own conclusions.

00:01:19.000 I don't need to afford you that luxury today.

00:01:22.000 Since you've screwed up so badly.

00:01:24.000 Big guests today.

00:01:26.000 For those who don't know, we have actually, I'm under the impression, his exclusive interview, the first interview with Curt Schilling of ESPN after the debacle of him posting, posted an image of Tranny with this whole North Carolina situation, was fired from ESPN. This is round two for him, by the way. 0.51

00:01:41.000 This is round two of the meme, like, backlash.

00:01:43.000 They had something this last year with an Islam meme.

00:01:45.000 But he wasn't fired.

00:01:46.000 Wasn't fired, I don't think.

00:01:47.000 But, I mean, this is like, this is round two.

00:01:50.000 He's probably getting used to it.

00:01:51.000 He's a repeat offender. 0.78

00:01:52.000 Yeah, he is a repeat offender.

00:01:54.000 So he's going to be on here in the third hour.

00:01:55.000 He's going to phone in.

00:01:56.000 And I had no idea that he was following me.

00:01:59.000 I guess a fan of the show.

00:02:00.000 We're incredibly grateful.

00:02:01.000 We have an exclusive on that.

00:02:02.000 We have Gavin McInnes.

00:02:03.000 Always fun.

00:02:04.000 We'll be playing new as gender pronoun.

00:02:06.000 And we have Dave Rubin.

00:02:07.000 Lovely comedian host.

00:02:10.000 More left.

00:02:11.000 And always fun to have him on.

00:02:13.000 So great guests lined up today.

00:02:15.000 And a big show.

00:02:16.000 A lot going on this week.

00:02:17.000 Big show.

00:02:18.000 A lot going on.

00:02:19.000 Did you, uh...

00:02:20.000 Did you hear that Prince died?

00:02:22.000 I know you just got in. 1.00

00:02:23.000 You are an absolute moron. 1.00

00:02:26.000 It is mind-numbing. 1.00

00:02:28.000 Do I know that Prince died?

00:02:30.000 Yes.

00:02:31.000 That's a horrible way to introduce it.

00:02:33.000 The singer.

00:02:33.000 Yes.

00:02:34.000 It's been trending everywhere.

00:02:36.000 How could I not know? 1.00

00:02:38.000 What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. 1.00

00:02:45.000 Thank you. 1.00

00:02:45.000 But seriously, I mean, I figured since you were traveling, you may not have gotten the Twitter trends, people talking about it. 1.00

00:02:51.000 At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

00:03:00.000 I just wondered if you knew about it.

00:03:04.000 It's an interesting topic.

00:03:06.000 People are talking about it.

00:03:07.000 Yeah, there's also an election going on.

00:03:09.000 I don't know if you wanted to notify our audience of that, too.

00:03:12.000 Yes.

00:03:12.000 Sex can result in pregnancy.

00:03:14.000 Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. 0.99

00:03:18.000 You just queued me up with it perfectly. 0.97

00:03:19.000 I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

00:03:24.000 Prince did pass away.

00:03:25.000 He did.

00:03:26.000 We are aware of this.

00:03:27.000 I was aware of this.

00:03:28.000 You know, listen, I didn't listen to Prince a whole lot.

00:03:31.000 I think of Batman.

00:03:33.000 Vicki Vale.

00:03:34.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:03:34.000 Vicki Vale.

00:03:35.000 That's what I think of. 0.97

00:03:36.000 Yeah, well that's because you're a horrible human being and you don't actually recognize his true accomplishments.

00:03:42.000 The guy was a wildly talented musician. 0.63

00:03:45.000 He taught himself, like, how many instruments?

00:03:47.000 Yeah, and you know, it was overshadowed by the gimmick.

00:03:49.000 That's one of those things that happens with a lot of these people.

00:03:51.000 And you see it in any form of media.

00:03:54.000 You see it with comedians.

00:03:55.000 You see it with musicians.

00:03:56.000 They're brilliant.

00:03:57.000 Kind of like Lady Gaga.

00:03:58.000 Lady Gaga was a great jazz musician, if you actually look and see.

00:04:01.000 And then she had to go weird to make it. 0.99

00:04:02.000 Well, you know, ugly chicks have to go fishing with dynamite, and so if people aren't showing up for your jazz recital, you toss on a meat suit and expose your nipples and call it a day. 1.00

00:04:12.000 My point is, she's talented. 0.98

00:04:15.000 Prince was incredibly talented, and I feel like Prince is one of those artists a lot of people want to say they like Prince.

00:04:22.000 But didn't really listen to him.

00:04:24.000 And I'm just honest.

00:04:25.000 I had heard a couple of his main songs.

00:04:28.000 So I don't want to pretend like I'm a fan.

00:04:30.000 A lot of people do that.

00:04:31.000 Like when someone goes, oh, I can't believe it.

00:04:34.000 Oh, Chyna, the wrestler died. 0.99

00:04:36.000 It's sad if someone dies, but I wasn't a fan.

00:04:39.000 I didn't follow the WWE divas. 1.00

00:04:41.000 I won't lie.

00:04:42.000 There was a part of me that thought Prince was dead already.

00:04:46.000 There I said it.

00:04:47.000 My outside thoughts, inside thoughts are now out.

00:04:50.000 Well, you should keep them as inside thoughts.

00:04:52.000 Speaking of innies, inside, outside, Donald Trump this week.

00:04:56.000 We'll go right into this because we'll no doubt have to get into this with guests.

00:05:00.000 We've talked about this.

00:05:01.000 We did the Transgender Bill, Schoolhouse Rock parody on there for those who don't know.

00:05:04.000 Bruce Springsteen, Brian Adams, all these people are boycotting North Carolina over the trans-LGBTQAAIP bathroom laws. 0.83

00:05:11.000 Basically, the bathroom laws, for those who haven't been following it, if you've been living under a rock, it's why Curt Schilling was fired.

00:05:16.000 So, conservatives were obviously opposed.

00:05:20.000 Not only conservatives, moderate leftists were saying, this is getting a little absurd. 0.96

00:05:23.000 Okay, if businesses want people who have penises to use a men's room, this is not an entirely right issue. 0.96

00:05:30.000 This isn't right versus left. 0.94

00:05:32.000 Most people agree with that.

00:05:33.000 And that's why there was this outrage that Curt Schilling was fired, but now there's Donald Trump today.

00:05:40.000 So, let's talk about this.

00:05:42.000 Let's roll the clip.

00:05:43.000 Let's roll the clip of Donald Trump.

00:05:44.000 I've got an issue here.

00:05:44.000 Mr. Trump, please be specific.

00:05:46.000 Tell us your views on LGBT, how you plan to be inclusive as president.

00:05:51.000 Speak about North Carolina bathroom law in particular.

00:05:54.000 Oh, I had a feeling that question was going to come up, I will tell you.

00:05:57.000 Well, look, North Carolina did something that was very strong, and they're paying a big price, and there's a lot of problems.

00:06:04.000 And I heard one of the best answers I heard was from a commentator yesterday saying, leave it the way it is.

00:06:10.000 Right now, there have been very few problems.

00:06:13.000 North Carolina, what they're going through with all of the business that's leaving and all of the strife, and that's on both sides.

00:06:21.000 You leave it the way it is.

00:06:22.000 There have been very few complaints the way it is.

00:06:25.000 They use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate.

00:06:29.000 There has been so little trouble.

00:06:31.000 And the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic...

00:06:36.000 Anyway, he goes on.

00:06:37.000 He repeats himself.

00:06:38.000 We don't have to watch the whole thing.

00:06:39.000 And he goes on to say that transgender people should be able to use whatever bathroom they want.

00:06:42.000 So for those, this is important, right?

00:06:42.000 Okay.

00:06:44.000 You can't...

00:06:45.000 Again, if you just say, I don't care about any of it.

00:06:47.000 I want Donald Trump.

00:06:48.000 Sorry.

00:06:48.000 Let's just lay into this here.

00:06:50.000 You cannot on...

00:06:51.000 We're Thursday...

00:06:53.000 Yeah, you cannot on Wednesday night...

00:06:55.000 Be outraged.

00:06:56.000 And it's the number one trend.

00:06:57.000 And I watched all of these Trump people.

00:06:59.000 You cannot be outraged that Curt Schilling was fired for clearly speaking out against the transgender law. 1.00

00:07:04.000 Even people like James Woods and celebrities.

00:07:06.000 You cannot be outraged and point out how silly it is and then justify these remarks into the mental gymnastics the next day to say, well, no, it's okay for Trump to say that.

00:07:14.000 First off, some people are trying to say here, well, you know why?

00:07:17.000 Let me tell you why.

00:07:18.000 If you believe he's politically incorrect, he's going to stay.

00:07:20.000 This is the most spineless, politically correct, Statist answer you could possibly give.

00:07:26.000 Not only has he displayed that he has no understanding of how state laws work or why this law was created in the first place, he's not an intelligent man.

00:07:33.000 He doesn't know.

00:07:34.000 Listen, he doesn't know.

00:07:35.000 There's the combination of him not being very bright in understanding how government works, and he's now going to turn, go back to the previous episodes, like I said, in a general election, he's going to be far more gentle on Hillary Clinton than he's been on Republicans.

00:07:47.000 Watch.

00:07:48.000 If he makes it through.

00:07:49.000 He probably won't make it through if it goes to a second ballot, but...

00:07:51.000 Let's assume that he does.

00:07:52.000 Let's assume that he gets the delegates.

00:07:56.000 This is the PC appeasing the left answer.

00:07:59.000 Expect this in a general.

00:08:00.000 So there's that.

00:08:00.000 There's a politically correct.

00:08:01.000 We know he's not willing to be politically incorrect when it's hard.

00:08:05.000 This is an issue.

00:08:06.000 He's caved.

00:08:06.000 Okay?

00:08:08.000 You can't leave the laws the way they are.

00:08:10.000 This gets into why is he in authoritarian status.

00:08:13.000 The reason North Carolina had to create this law was because of a city ordinance in Charlotte.

00:08:18.000 By the way, Donald Trump, I'm sure, knows this.

00:08:20.000 If you're a landlord in New York City, you can be fined for using the proper gender pronouns.

00:08:25.000 Remember we covered that?

00:08:26.000 Yep, yep.

00:08:26.000 If you own a building in New York City, you're like, ah, oh, Dick's in the bathroom, and you go in the ladies' room.

00:08:32.000 If you do that, you can be fined.

00:08:34.000 And what does that really mean?

00:08:35.000 You can lose your business.

00:08:36.000 You can be sued.

00:08:37.000 This happens in New York City. 0.99

00:08:38.000 Another reason why New York values suck. 0.98

00:08:41.000 Oh, but I'm from New York. 1.00

00:08:42.000 Yeah, your values suck. 1.00

00:08:43.000 If the values of a city involve fining somebody for recognizing biology, the values of that city suck. 1.00

00:08:52.000 So that's what happened. 0.93

00:08:53.000 We know that's happened in New York.

00:08:54.000 That's what happened with Charlotte, basically forcing these places, businesses, to say, no, you have to let people use whatever bathroom they feel like. 1.00

00:09:01.000 So the state came in and said, no...

00:09:03.000 Use the bathroom that you were born with. 0.94

00:09:05.000 Let's simplify the confusion and people can talk about religious protection.

00:09:09.000 We've talked about this last week.

00:09:10.000 They try and lie and see that it discriminates against gay people.

00:09:13.000 It has nothing to do with gay people.

00:09:14.000 It has to do specifically with businesses, churches, organizations having the right to say, listen, you've got a John Thomas.

00:09:23.000 Don't go in the girls' room. 1.00

00:09:24.000 And it was necessary because of Charlotte.

00:09:27.000 The law was created in response to encroaching government power.

00:09:33.000 Okay?

00:09:34.000 That's why.

00:09:35.000 So you can't leave it the way it is.

00:09:36.000 You don't know what you're talking about.

00:09:38.000 And, of course, you don't know what you're talking about.

00:09:40.000 And you're trying to use it to appease a politically correct left.

00:09:42.000 If you were protesting Curt Schilling being fired on ESPN on Wednesday and then doing mental loop-de-loops to justify Trump's remarks the next day...

00:09:52.000 Come on.

00:09:53.000 Just say you don't care.

00:09:54.000 I have no problem with people who don't care.

00:09:56.000 But you can see the timelines, right? 0.97

00:09:58.000 Oh, this is ridiculous. 0.99

00:09:59.000 Men shouldn't be in the girls' restroom. 1.00

00:10:00.000 This is ridiculous. 0.99

00:10:01.000 I support North Carolina. 0.98

00:10:02.000 I'm going to boycott Bruce Springsteen.

00:10:04.000 Then this Trump thing comes up.

00:10:05.000 Well, you know what?

00:10:06.000 Maybe it doesn't matter anyway.

00:10:07.000 Let's talk about the economy.

00:10:11.000 My only request is that you be a sister.

00:10:13.000 I match your cop-out with another cop-out.

00:10:16.000 I see your cop-out.

00:10:17.000 I raise you another.

00:10:18.000 Now, here, play devil's advocate.

00:10:19.000 We've got, like, two minutes.

00:10:21.000 What do you think?

00:10:22.000 And maybe you're not prepared for this.

00:10:23.000 Tennessee, I believe it is.

00:10:24.000 The governor, Republican, pressuring businesses with tax hikes if they don't support the law.

00:10:30.000 There's one for you.

00:10:31.000 If they don't?

00:10:32.000 Support the same kind of bill that is being passed in North Carolina, the same H-1B or whatever it's called.

00:10:38.000 How do you pressure them?

00:10:39.000 I don't know.

00:10:39.000 Just pressure them with tax hikes if they don't get in suit.

00:10:42.000 So you say, okay.

00:10:43.000 Or honor the bill.

00:10:44.000 I'm not sure exactly the details. 0.93

00:10:45.000 In other words, you say, hey, I don't know, queer burger. 1.00

00:10:49.000 You're going to let people use whatever restrooms they want. 1.00

00:10:51.000 We're going to tax you more?

00:10:53.000 No, no, no.

00:10:53.000 He's for the bill.

00:10:55.000 He wants the transgender bill so that, like, North Carolina has passed. 0.57

00:10:58.000 Right.

00:10:59.000 So he wants it to be bathroom on your biological gist.

00:11:01.000 Yes.

00:11:02.000 But my point is, so let's say a private business like, I don't know, Queer Burger or whatever it is, Gay Burger, says, hey, we want to let anyone use whatever bathroom.

00:11:09.000 This governor wants to tax that business more?

00:11:11.000 I think so.

00:11:12.000 I think that's the gist I got.

00:11:13.000 Well, if it's a gist you got, I would need to read up on it more.

00:11:17.000 My initial reaction would be disagree.

00:11:19.000 And if I haven't read up on it, I've been on the road performing.

00:11:22.000 So if this just happened recently, but I would have to read up on it.

00:11:26.000 My issue would be if it's businesses lobbying against it, trying to force other businesses to recognize any kind of a bathroom.

00:11:32.000 But, you know, this isn't just businesses.

00:11:33.000 It also goes to public buildings.

00:11:35.000 You know, that's what you have in these other states, too.

00:11:37.000 So in public buildings, I do think it should be left to businesses.

00:11:40.000 I think that, just like I think Bed and Breakfast should have the right to say, I don't want to marry two guys named Ted.

00:11:46.000 Go to another one.

00:11:47.000 Or they don't have to bake a cake with two wieners on it. 0.73

00:11:49.000 So yeah, I would, at first glance, be against that law.

00:11:51.000 Oh, we have to go.

00:11:52.000 Go.

00:11:52.000 Well, we'll come back and fight about this more.

00:11:54.000 Everybody was kung fu fighting. 0.99

00:11:57.000 Those kids were fast as lightning. 0.99

00:12:01.000 In fact, it was a little bit frightening.

00:12:06.000 But they fought with expert timing.

00:12:10.000 you you you you Thank you.

00:12:14.000 And now for Sean King Claims Things.

00:12:21.000 Well, all right, Mr.

00:12:22.000 King, I'm so glad that we have that saga behind us and we can just move forward on a purely professional basis.

00:12:28.000 Yes, me too, as well.

00:12:31.000 Great.

00:12:31.000 Now, of course, you're aware that there have been accusations that you've plagiarized this recent article of yours.

00:12:37.000 Is this, in fact, just shoot me straight, is this your article?

00:12:41.000 Yes, that is my article.

00:12:44.000 Okay, so I just want to be clear, for the record, you are, in fact, claiming that this is an original piece of content from you.

00:12:52.000 Yes, that is correct.

00:12:55.000 Okay, so people claiming that it came from this other publication, there's no basis in it.

00:12:59.000 I wrote that as well.

00:13:02.000 I'm sorry, what do you mean?

00:13:03.000 From the other publication.

00:13:05.000 You just said it was original, that it wasn't in another publication.

00:13:08.000 Yes, but I did it.

00:13:11.000 Let me ask you something.

00:13:12.000 Did you make this computer?

00:13:13.000 Yes.

00:13:14.000 I did, in fact, make that personal computer.

00:13:18.000 King, are you just claiming things?

00:13:18.000 Mr.

00:13:20.000 Yes.

00:13:21.000 What about these pants I'm wearing?

00:13:23.000 Did you make these pants?

00:13:24.000 Yes.

00:13:25.000 You sewed them, stitched them?

00:13:26.000 Yes, I did.

00:13:28.000 Manufactured them?

00:13:28.000 Yes.

00:13:29.000 And distributed them?

00:13:30.000 Yes.

00:13:31.000 Did you carry it to the store and place a sales tag on it?

00:13:35.000 Yes.

00:13:35.000 What about the liquidation stickers?

00:13:37.000 Did you put those in the pants?

00:13:38.000 Yes, that is my sticker.

00:13:40.000 These glasses, did you make these glasses?

00:13:42.000 Yes.

00:13:43.000 You are claiming that these glasses, right here on my head, you made them.

00:13:46.000 Yes, I am claiming those glasses.

00:13:50.000 Your complete and utter lack of regard for the truth is nothing short of remarkable.

00:13:54.000 I've been told that before.

00:14:00.000 That's been this week's installment of Sean King Claims Things.

00:14:04.000 All right, glad we were dancing in the studio. glad we were dancing in the studio.

00:14:23.000 I was pushing my cleavage together because, you know what?

00:14:26.000 I'm going to be...

00:14:27.000 This Thursday is practically the weekend.

00:14:28.000 I'm going to be...

00:14:29.000 That's why.

00:14:30.000 And don't say what day it is.

00:14:31.000 We have some of our wonderful affiliates who run it, not necessarily on Thursday.

00:14:36.000 Well, people can be listening to this a month from now.

00:14:38.000 WHC, Northern Florida, Patriot Voices, Northern Michigan, KLID, Missouri, Wham, Cone, Alaska, WKMQ, Missouri.

00:14:43.000 A few more that I'm missing.

00:14:44.000 You didn't memorize those.

00:14:45.000 You were reading those.

00:14:45.000 I am reading those.

00:14:46.000 Those are right in front of me.

00:14:47.000 I have my cholesterol numbers right below them.

00:14:51.000 On my notes for today.

00:14:52.000 I don't know why those are there.

00:14:54.000 How was it, by the way?

00:14:55.000 Is it good?

00:14:55.000 Fantastic.

00:14:56.000 That's great.

00:14:57.000 My cholesterol numbers are fantastic, and they got way better when I started eating more meat and fat.

00:15:02.000 I've got to break it to you.

00:15:03.000 I wasn't actually interested.

00:15:04.000 Oh, okay.

00:15:05.000 Well, that's reasonable. 0.89

00:15:06.000 Not gay, Jared. 1.00

00:15:07.000 That's absolutely reasonable.

00:15:08.000 We have a few stories.

00:15:09.000 Let me start with this here.

00:15:11.000 We have Ruben coming up after the break, Dave Ruben.

00:15:13.000 I was performing at Bucknell University, and it was one of those things, the date got mixed, the venue got mixed, so it was a middle-of-the-road show, but Tom over there, who hosted it, he produces Milo's podcast.

00:15:26.000 Great guy.

00:15:27.000 Nice guy.

00:15:28.000 We did this show.

00:15:30.000 It started out as stand-up, and then I blew out my knee doing my Penguin impression, and I just couldn't...

00:15:35.000 It happens to the most of us doing Penguin impression.

00:15:36.000 I just forgot my whole set list because it was just blinding pain.

00:15:38.000 But we did a Q&A with the audience.

00:15:41.000 And a few things that were remarkable with the audience, for those listening, people who listen to this tend to be relatively educated.

00:15:46.000 They tend to be in the know.

00:15:47.000 They're pretty engaged.

00:15:48.000 If you're listening to this show, typically you know more than the average citizen regarding politics.

00:15:53.000 There were some protesters.

00:15:54.000 There were some people who showed up, some leftists, who were there to not laugh.

00:15:57.000 So when we started talking, having a discussion, asking questions, the first question I always ask is, what is the fundamental role of government?

00:16:05.000 And no leftist has ever answered this at a program.

00:16:07.000 And, of course, the conservatives answer it.

00:16:09.000 It's to protect the inalienable rights of the people. 0.94

00:16:12.000 And then the leftists would say, well, which rights?

00:16:14.000 Well, isn't it great that we have the Constitution as a blueprint?

00:16:17.000 This one guy who was a Bernie Sanders supporter was saying, isn't it the government's job to represent the most amount of people?

00:16:21.000 I said, no.

00:16:22.000 He said, I really want them to redistribute wealth, and I think that's because it needs to be what's better for people.

00:16:28.000 I said, you need to substantiate that.

00:16:30.000 He wasn't able to.

00:16:31.000 And I asked him, okay, what do you believe?

00:16:33.000 He said, fairness.

00:16:34.000 I said, what about something like a flat tax?

00:16:36.000 He said, well, no, that's not fair.

00:16:38.000 This is true, by the way.

00:16:39.000 And you can ask Tom over there at Young Americas for Liberty.

00:16:41.000 You could feel the wave over the room of conservatives realizing that the leftists, who are professional protesters, who tried to ban Milo from campus, who weren't happy that I was showing up on campus, they had no idea what conservatives were thinking.

00:16:54.000 This really happened in real time, and I think it's important for you to hear this.

00:16:57.000 He said, no, because that would hurt the poor more, because they end up paying and the rich don't pay anything.

00:17:02.000 I said, it seems to me you have a problem with the general concept of percentages.

00:17:06.000 He said, what do you mean?

00:17:07.000 He said, if I make $100,000 and I pay $20,000 and then I make a million dollars and I pay $200,000.

00:17:15.000 How is that not fair?

00:17:17.000 He said, oh, that's a flat tax?

00:17:21.000 I said, yeah, what did you think it was?

00:17:23.000 I thought it was like a flat fee that everyone paid.

00:17:26.000 I said, okay, so what I just described to you, is that fair?

00:17:30.000 Well, it's more fair than I thought.

00:17:33.000 And I said, yeah, but you already voted. 1.00

00:17:37.000 You absolute butthole. 1.00

00:17:38.000 At this point, he had already voted for Bernie Sanders. 1.00

00:17:41.000 And he was like, well, no, it's our duty to vote.

00:17:43.000 I said, no, it's not a virtue for you to go out and vote.

00:17:45.000 You don't even know what a flat tax is.

00:17:48.000 You have no idea what this is.

00:17:49.000 You're welcome.

00:17:50.000 He never stopped to think about how those numbers didn't work.

00:17:52.000 He never stopped.

00:17:52.000 No.

00:17:53.000 I thought, think that, oh, there's no way a poor person could pay, say, $10,000, $20,000 in taxes.

00:17:59.000 It never occurred to him.

00:18:00.000 And no one corrected him from the left.

00:18:03.000 There was a whole group of people more leftist.

00:18:04.000 Not a single one knew.

00:18:05.000 They probably didn't know either.

00:18:06.000 No, they didn't know.

00:18:07.000 The only people who spoke up were the Republicans, conservatives, saying, no, that's not a flat tax.

00:18:11.000 And then he was willing to reconsider it.

00:18:13.000 Same thing, we had women who were talking about feminism on campus, and they believed in safe spaces. 1.00

00:18:17.000 They could not name one single right afforded to men that weren't afforded to women in 2016.

00:18:23.000 And we ended up having a dialogue, and afterward they came up and they thanked me, and they said, hey, we appreciate you at least letting us speak.

00:18:28.000 A lot of conservative speakers come here with cue cards.

00:18:30.000 They don't actually answer any questions.

00:18:33.000 And actually, that's something a lot of people do.

00:18:35.000 Al Franken does that, where he goes with cue cards from the audience.

00:18:38.000 I used to know a stand-up comedian who would do that.

00:18:39.000 He'd be like, hey, I'm going to do some improv comedy.

00:18:42.000 And the cue card was always like Keanu Reeves making a pizza, and he was doing it in a...

00:18:45.000 No way!

00:18:46.000 Making a pizza like Keanu Reeves and everyone who's seen his act is like, okay, improv, we get it.

00:18:51.000 So we actually had a dialogue with these kids. 0.89

00:18:53.000 And you will be sometimes astounded as to the very, it doesn't mean they're stupid, but the very basic ideas of which they've never really thought. 0.92

00:19:02.000 And afterwards, something that struck me. 0.81

00:19:04.000 This is why we do this program.

00:19:05.000 We have very smart people on this program.

00:19:07.000 You know, Ruben's a smart guy.

00:19:08.000 We've had Gadset on.

00:19:09.000 We have molecular biologists.

00:19:12.000 How many degrees has Gerald had these days?

00:19:14.000 I don't know how many he has.

00:19:15.000 I've lost track.

00:19:16.000 We've had psychiatrists who lecture across the country, and then we also play Spot the Tranny.

00:19:20.000 We have all kinds of silly stuff as well.

00:19:21.000 But if it seems like something like this, if you think it's, well, why is that reductive?

00:19:25.000 When you have a significant portion of kids in college who are getting master's degrees who don't know what a flat tax is, these kids couldn't name the three branches of government.

00:19:33.000 That's why Schoolhouse Rock, I'm such a big advocate.

00:19:35.000 You can learn the preamble of the Constitution, the three branches of government, what their role is, how a bill becomes a law, and your conjunctions, and you can learn it in the span of an afternoon.

00:19:45.000 Kids aren't getting a basic education on college campus.

00:19:48.000 Afterwards, this girl came up who was all about police brutality and feminism and safe spaces. 1.00

00:19:53.000 She said, well, thank you for at least listening.

00:19:55.000 She said, you know, I've never heard the opinions you espoused before, so I wasn't ready for it.

00:20:00.000 I said, thank you.

00:20:00.000 I said, I appreciate that, but let me bring something up to you.

00:20:03.000 I said, every single conservative here in this audience has heard all of your opinions.

00:20:08.000 Every opinion you express tonight, they've heard it before.

00:20:10.000 I didn't even really have to answer these questions.

00:20:12.000 I just happened to have the microphone.

00:20:13.000 I said, you know why?

00:20:14.000 Because it's the same opinion of all your professors, and they've had to defend it.

00:20:18.000 Their entire life, they've heard nothing but your opinions.

00:20:21.000 Everything you've expressed, they've heard multiple times and have been able to substantiate why they disagree with it.

00:20:26.000 You have not even heard one opinion that I expressed tonight.

00:20:29.000 I said, if you want to talk about diversity...

00:20:32.000 Who do you think is surrounding themselves with a more intellectually diverse group?

00:20:35.000 She said, you know what, that's true.

00:20:36.000 I really should educate myself.

00:20:38.000 I should learn more.

00:20:39.000 She had never heard anybody say the wage gap is a myth.

00:20:42.000 Just didn't believe me.

00:20:43.000 This girl, Tom, who's listening there from Bucknell, people were astounded.

00:20:46.000 When I talked about statistics, brought up police brutality.

00:20:50.000 I said, well, if we talk about police shootings with young black children, actually, you're more likely to be shot as a young white person.

00:20:55.000 I don't believe you. 0.90

00:20:56.000 I said, OK, let's give you as much leeway as possible and me as little as possible.

00:21:00.000 That's how we try and frame these debates.

00:21:01.000 Let's say that's not true. 0.98

00:21:02.000 I said, could we at least acknowledge that statistically black Americans commit more crimes? 1.00

00:21:06.000 That it would probably correlate the arrests or cops shooting them would correlate, if not an inverse correlation compared to white people with their violent crime rate. 0.89

00:21:14.000 And she said, well, I don't know where those statistics should...

00:21:17.000 I don't really know what statistics are anyway.

00:21:18.000 What are they really?

00:21:19.000 They can just say anything.

00:21:20.000 I said, no, statistics are a...

00:21:21.000 They're a numerical equation that is verifiable, that you can observe, that is used to estimate correlation and causation.

00:21:30.000 It's not an opinion.

00:21:31.000 It's not a feeling.

00:21:32.000 It's not a safe space.

00:21:33.000 That's what statistics are.

00:21:35.000 Well, I don't agree.

00:21:36.000 I disagree.

00:21:37.000 Actually, I disagree.

00:21:39.000 This is what's happening on college campuses.

00:21:42.000 And sometimes we start off, we'll get into a lot today, but it can get nerdy.

00:21:46.000 You need to realize some people don't even have a basic understanding of government.

00:21:50.000 Or know what a flat tax is.

00:21:51.000 Dave Rubin, after the break.

00:21:52.000 He's one of the smart ones.

00:21:53.000 one.

00:21:53.000 Stay tuned.

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00:22:38.000 This week in Not Gay Jared's Diet Habits. 0.67

00:22:41.000 What is that?

00:22:42.000 Is that an energy drink?

00:22:43.000 Yeah.

00:22:44.000 What is that next to it?

00:22:47.000 Some Skittles.

00:22:48.000 What did you have for dinner?

00:22:50.000 The first half of the Skittles.

00:22:53.000 You know your body can't be healthy, right?

00:22:56.000 I assume so.

00:22:58.000 It's not possible to be healthy eating like that.

00:23:01.000 Oh, well, I had an apple earlier.

00:23:07.000 Stay tuned for more of Not Gay Jared's Diet Happiness. 0.88

00:23:09.000 Stay tuned for more of Not Gay Jared's Diet Happiness. 0.88

00:23:33.000 I don't know if I'd use the word glad, but you can see his show.

00:23:37.000 He's already laughing before we even bring him in.

00:23:39.000 He doesn't understand the rules of broadcasting this hack.

00:23:42.000 YouTube.com slash Rubin Report.

00:23:46.000 You can watch it all over iTunes or at TV. Dave Rubin, thanks for being on, sir.

00:23:51.000 Crowder, I love this.

00:23:52.000 You were just on my show.

00:23:54.000 We're doing an old-school cross-promotion right now.

00:23:57.000 This is very professional, man.

00:23:59.000 Sponsored by the Colgate Hour.

00:24:02.000 Which is funny.

00:24:03.000 We're kind of going back to that.

00:24:04.000 Have you noticed that?

00:24:05.000 We went from all ad breaks with a ton of ads, and now it's going back to sponsored content.

00:24:10.000 The full program has one or two main sponsors.

00:24:12.000 Everything old is new again.

00:24:14.000 Everything old is new.

00:24:15.000 You know, sponsored content, as long as they're not telling you what to say, it's pretty good.

00:24:20.000 Because, you know, there's some products that I wouldn't mind having a nice red wine bottle behind me and talking about how I'm drinking it.

00:24:27.000 I don't have one behind me at the moment, but I think that would be pretty sweet.

00:24:31.000 Well, one of our sponsors is SimplifiedWine.com, so you should do that.

00:24:33.000 They ship wine to your door.

00:24:35.000 You call, you're like, I like this Pinot, this is my budget, and then he curates it and sends it to you.

00:24:40.000 What if I steal them from you right now?

00:24:41.000 You could steal them.

00:24:42.000 He doesn't really have any money.

00:24:45.000 He pays me in swill.

00:24:47.000 And it's all twist up.

00:24:48.000 You're doing this for money?

00:24:49.000 Yeah, I know.

00:24:51.000 Sell out.

00:24:52.000 That's kind of the conundrum.

00:24:53.000 Okay, we were just talking about this on your show.

00:24:55.000 People talk about media and sort of being corporate sellouts.

00:24:59.000 I've always been open on this channel.

00:25:00.000 We have a very select few sponsors every now and then.

00:25:03.000 We just make money in whatever the general ad revenue is.

00:25:06.000 But yeah, I want to pay Not Gay Jared and our employees well.

00:25:09.000 I want to grow and increase influence.

00:25:12.000 At what point do you think that crosses over into, when does it become a problem?

00:25:18.000 Well, you know, look, it's different for everybody, and if you have integrity, which I think you do and I think I do, it makes it trickier, right?

00:25:25.000 No integrity there.

00:25:26.000 You're faking it pretty easily.

00:25:28.000 I fake it pretty well, yeah.

00:25:29.000 It's all a sham.

00:25:30.000 I've got the Koch brother money in back.

00:25:32.000 Yeah, you do a nice job with that.

00:25:33.000 I'm still trying to get the big fracking money that you mentioned on my show.

00:25:37.000 Yes.

00:25:37.000 I want Burns slant oil drilling money.

00:25:40.000 Remember that from The Simpsons?

00:25:41.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:25:42.000 Yeah, that slant drilling.

00:25:44.000 It was pretty brilliant.

00:25:45.000 That's what caused the Who Shot Mr.

00:25:46.000 Burns episode.

00:25:47.000 Anyway.

00:25:48.000 Wow, that's right.

00:25:49.000 I didn't realize you were such a Simpsons trivia guy.

00:25:52.000 Sorry, continue.

00:25:53.000 Almost everything I know from comedy is from seasons four to eight, those prime years.

00:25:59.000 The Simpsons.

00:25:59.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:00.000 I love it.

00:26:01.000 Actually, I watched The Simpsons this past Sunday, season 27.

00:26:05.000 It was an episode all about Apu and the Quickie Mart.

00:26:08.000 And I laughed a couple times, and I was like...

00:26:10.000 Alright, that's the best they can do now.

00:26:12.000 But it's pleasant.

00:26:13.000 Because you know what? 0.99

00:26:13.000 Usually I'm watching TV and I'm like, oh, this is all horse s*** garbage. 0.99

00:26:17.000 So if I can laugh twice in a half hour... 0.98

00:26:19.000 This is actually out on FCC radio, so don't make Not Gay Jared's job harder.

00:26:25.000 Sorry, sorry.

00:26:26.000 Nah, it's okay.

00:26:27.000 No, you're right.

00:26:27.000 You know, I have a good friend, actually, who does a lot of voices in The Simpsons, and she's a conservative, and she talked about how hostile it is there just when they're in there recording, how nobody else is in the entertainment industry, and she has to keep it a secret.

00:26:38.000 And you would know her right away.

00:26:39.000 She's one of the prominent voice actresses on there.

00:26:42.000 But, yeah, it was a great show.

00:26:44.000 They tried to be Family Guy for a while.

00:26:45.000 Because they were losing steam, and Family Guy came in, and you could sort of see it seeping into the influence, and you're like, it doesn't work.

00:26:45.000 Remember?

00:26:51.000 Don't try and be Family Guy.

00:26:52.000 Be Simpsons.

00:26:53.000 Kind of like...

00:26:54.000 You know, be Dave Rubin.

00:26:56.000 Don't be, um...

00:26:58.000 I don't know who else.

00:26:59.000 You're Dave Rubin.

00:26:59.000 I don't know.

00:27:00.000 Don't be Larry King.

00:27:02.000 You know, because now you're working with him. 0.99

00:27:04.000 Insert other generic gay guy. 0.98

00:27:07.000 Or not gay guy. 0.97

00:27:08.000 Yeah, or not gay. 0.87

00:27:10.000 I'm not very good at the gay thing.

00:27:11.000 I'm good from like 10 p.m.

00:27:13.000 to like 1 a.m.

00:27:15.000 Those are my like main gay hours. 0.88

00:27:18.000 Anyway, let's...

00:27:18.000 My fans claim I'm the best.

00:27:20.000 I don't want to brag, but...

00:27:21.000 You had a question.

00:27:22.000 What point does it become a problem?

00:27:24.000 You know, people talk about mainstream media and corporate media, right?

00:27:27.000 But everyone has to make a living.

00:27:28.000 So at what point is it genuinely a problem or someone's not being honest?

00:27:32.000 Yeah, well, look, I have a great situation here with Aura, because as I told you a couple minutes ago on my show, they let me do whatever I want, and I'm obviously salaried by them.

00:27:42.000 But their goal, they have never pulled me aside and say this, say that.

00:27:47.000 I honestly, 100% honestly, I don't even know the executives that are in this building right now.

00:27:52.000 I don't even know their political opinions on anything, truly.

00:27:54.000 And that's a beautiful thing because it allows me to go about my own business in a way where I'm only beholden to my thoughts.

00:28:03.000 That's pretty sweet.

00:28:04.000 That is such a contrast when I was with traditional media.

00:28:08.000 Oh my gosh, I was always getting into trouble.

00:28:10.000 Right.

00:28:10.000 So that's, you know, look, that's why people don't trust mainstream media anymore.

00:28:15.000 You know, right this very second, I do have my turn in the right way.

00:28:19.000 I've got an IFB in and that's just so I can hear you.

00:28:22.000 But I don't have anyone in the control room barking orders at me or I hope they're not going to.

00:28:27.000 Maybe they'll start right now.

00:28:28.000 But you know what I mean?

00:28:29.000 Because of that.

00:28:30.000 We can just do this freely.

00:28:32.000 This is the beauty of the internet, and that's why we have to make sure that as we've seen some of the screws tightening on the internet, where we know shadow banning is going on on Twitter, and you always tweet every now and again, you'll say, subscribe to my show before they kick me off Twitter.

00:28:49.000 But we've had worse with Facebook.

00:28:49.000 Right.

00:28:51.000 We're actually in litigation right now with Facebook because they censored us.

00:28:56.000 They did something wrong financially.

00:28:58.000 We can't get into all of it on air, but right now they are apologizing and trying to remedy it.

00:29:04.000 This kind of stuff happens a lot, and a lot of people don't have the power to stand up to it.

00:29:08.000 It is generally anti-political.

00:29:12.000 Conservative, and that's because they see the conservatives as the radical free speech people and the hate speech, and so you're sort of, I guess, an unwilling brother in arms, like you said, you pulled into it.

00:29:23.000 That's a good way to describe it.

00:29:25.000 I mean, that's sort of how I feel, because we can disagree about as much political stuff as you want to get into, but I absolutely, more than anything else, believe in free speech.

00:29:37.000 You can say absolutely whatever you want.

00:29:40.000 Short of direct call for violence, direct call for murder and harming someone, but short of that, you can say whatever you want, and I will counter your speech with speech.

00:29:52.000 I will not silence you.

00:29:54.000 I will not stop You know, a couple weeks ago they had these people, these Trump people wanted to get to a rally in Arizona, and there were Bernie people that were literally blocking the highway.

00:30:04.000 That's not, you know, we have a social contract that we should allow each other to speak and then beat their speech. 0.53

00:30:09.000 You got a better idea, let's have a battle of ideas.

00:30:12.000 If you don't let People have the battle of ideas.

00:30:16.000 Then actually you just strengthen a lot of the other side.

00:30:18.000 And I know you're not a big Trump guy, but a lot of the reason that the Trump stuff is working is because his people feel that they can't get their message out.

00:30:27.000 Now that may not be true at all.

00:30:29.000 No, but I understand.

00:30:30.000 And I've defended that.

00:30:30.000 I agree with it.

00:30:32.000 I've written about that multiple times and defended it.

00:30:35.000 Like in Chicago in the Bernie rally.

00:30:36.000 But like you said, you have to get to a point where what is not defensible is a direct call to action.

00:30:41.000 And I'm going, okay, you're getting into territory where it's punch them in the face and they'll pay your legal fees.

00:30:47.000 You know, then all of a sudden, Jank's like, you can't yell fire at a crowded theater.

00:30:50.000 I'm like, well, it's absurd.

00:30:51.000 No one's arguing that.

00:30:52.000 But then you have some people who are arguing you can offer to pay someone's legal fees if they punch someone in the face.

00:30:57.000 We're getting into indefensible territory.

00:30:59.000 And that's my issue with like, hey, it doesn't have to go this.

00:31:02.000 You can still make a valid argument and not go full crazy.

00:31:07.000 Well, this is where everyone, except for this little sliver, I think somewhere in the middle between classic liberals and libertarians, has gone completely bonkers.

00:31:15.000 So, of course, you're right.

00:31:16.000 Trump is inciting violence when he implies that if someone punches someone, he's going to pay for the legal fees, and then someone gets punched, right?

00:31:24.000 So we have somewhat of a connection there, right?

00:31:26.000 Now, at the same time, the day of the Trump rally in Chicago, it wasn't the Trump people that were outside Outside attacking cops and burning things and breaking windows.

00:31:37.000 Those were Bernie people.

00:31:39.000 So both sides are at fault here.

00:31:42.000 And look, I don't think Bernie himself is instigating people to violence, but there is something behind the social justice movement that is allowing people to think that violence is okay.

00:31:56.000 And that's the problem.

00:31:57.000 Yeah, and this is what I say, and you may disagree. 0.98

00:32:00.000 But when you call someone a racist, when you call someone a sexist, and a homophobe, and a fascist, and a transphobe, you've now made them out to be worse than Nazis. 0.99

00:32:09.000 Would any of us disagree that if a Nazi walked on end who wanted to actually kill Jews... 0.99

00:32:14.000 That it would be acceptable to jail that person. 0.77

00:32:16.000 Of course not.

00:32:17.000 We all would have a problem with Nazis. 0.80

00:32:18.000 But when you create, when you treat someone, when you make them out to be less than human, you make it acceptable to treat them in a way that's subhuman. 0.74

00:32:26.000 And that's what you're seeing. 0.79

00:32:27.000 And it started with Tea Party's racist, and now everything is sexist, homophobic, transphobic. 0.99

00:32:32.000 They think if you have a penis that you should use the male's locker room. 1.00

00:32:36.000 Bruce Springsteen and Pearl Jam think they need to protest the state because that's hate speech equivalent to lynch mobs. 0.99

00:32:42.000 I'm going to get stuff for just talking to a straight white male. 0.99

00:32:49.000 You're the worst of the worst. 1.00

00:32:52.000 You're a white male. 1.00

00:32:54.000 He likes to party.

00:32:56.000 You know what? 0.79

00:32:57.000 Actually, even the gay thing right now... 0.95

00:32:58.000 Gays are being shifted out of the pecking order, you know, this pecking order that the left has with this stuff. 0.97

00:33:06.000 Gay men, and especially gay white men, are really being pushed out of that. 0.93

00:33:09.000 Now we're viewed as privileged, so they're sort of done with us, too, which is obviously a problem. 0.72

00:33:15.000 Well, because also gay white men tend to be very successful.

00:33:18.000 I mean, you tend to fill that end of the bell curve with tend to be smarter, tend to be creative.

00:33:24.000 It's one of those things.

00:33:25.000 Milo talked about it.

00:33:26.000 You know, it's just people may not like hearing this.

00:33:28.000 It's just a statistic.

00:33:29.000 Gay men tend to be relatively smart for whatever reason, good looking and successful. 0.98

00:33:33.000 And then you must hate those people because they're successful. 0.97

00:33:37.000 Is that how it works?

00:33:38.000 I think that's how it works on the left. 1.00

00:33:39.000 I just don't like you because you're gay. 1.00

00:33:42.000 So, you know, I started off that way. 0.99

00:33:44.000 What just happened?

00:33:45.000 Why are you looking around?

00:33:46.000 We froze there.

00:33:47.000 Oh, you froze?

00:33:48.000 Are we good?

00:33:49.000 Oh, we're good.

00:33:50.000 We can see you.

00:33:51.000 You're fine.

00:33:52.000 Tell Ora to spring for high speed there, Dave Rubin. 1.00

00:33:55.000 And it happened right at town when I said, I don't like you because you're gay, punchline. 1.00

00:33:59.000 And he's looking around like people are going to go, oh no, he really offended him. 0.98

00:34:03.000 How do I run?

00:34:04.000 I knew you couldn't be talking about me, that's why.

00:34:06.000 So I'm looking at my people going, you can't be talking about me.

00:34:08.000 I was talking to the gay intern. 0.64

00:34:10.000 No, but that's my point.

00:34:11.000 So for us, it's been so much further behind you on the trail where we've been condemned.

00:34:17.000 And now you're experiencing it.

00:34:18.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:34:19.000 Where do you feel when they just toss it all in?

00:34:21.000 You know, like, a good example, North Carolina, right?

00:34:23.000 They go, the anti-LGBTQ laws.

00:34:26.000 First off, I think anyone who uses LGBTQ seriously should be roasted with their own Thanksgiving turkey with a steak of holly driven through their heart. 0.99

00:34:33.000 I think there's an eye in there now.

00:34:34.000 There's an I. It's LGBTQAAIP. But LGBTQ is widely accepted.

00:34:34.000 Yeah.

00:34:39.000 Even Joel McHale went up, and I remember his stand-up was, he just started, he's like, what the F, North Carolina?

00:34:44.000 What the F? I want to give all my money to the LGBTQ community without a sense of, this is kind of ridiculous. 1.00

00:34:50.000 How do you feel, being the G, this is entirely, by the way, bathroom situation. 0.95

00:34:56.000 It has nothing to do with gay people at all.

00:35:00.000 How do you feel with that, where they just lump you in with that same moniker?

00:35:03.000 Well, I'm glad you made that distinction first, because I've said this many times, that being a gay male or being a lesbian or something else, you know, we've put all these letters together, but the truth is that I don't know intrinsically more about the trans experience than you do.

00:35:19.000 Now, it's an other, right, in terms of sexuality, I suppose, so that's why these people are grouped together.

00:35:26.000 And I know some trans people, and I have some good trans friends, but...

00:35:31.000 But I'm not inherently by being gay.

00:35:34.000 That doesn't make me know anything more about their experience.

00:35:39.000 But without getting into the minutia of this specific law, because we know these things come and then two months later they're forgotten about.

00:35:48.000 But it is so directly linked to what you said before about the everyone's racist, homophobe, sexist, every other thing.

00:35:54.000 And that's why I'm really proud, if I've done anything since we started this show in September, that I've really helped normalize and get to the mainstream this regressive left phrase.

00:36:07.000 Because these people, they are pretending to be progressives.

00:36:11.000 They are pretending to be for progress.

00:36:14.000 And yet what they are for really is regression.

00:36:17.000 They are for viewing us all only by the color of our skin or by our sexuality.

00:36:24.000 Or, ironically, by our religion, even though progressives are supposedly the most against religion there is, right?

00:36:31.000 And I say this as an atheist.

00:36:33.000 So there's a lot there, and that's why I want people to...

00:36:37.000 I know you've been fighting the good fight on your side for the right, and I know you want the Republican Party and the right to get back to some decent ideals and have that battle of ideas, and that's why I'm doing it on the left.

00:36:49.000 Can we have you for one more shorter segment?

00:36:51.000 Can we do that?

00:36:52.000 Are you in the studio?

00:36:53.000 All right.

00:36:54.000 YouTube.com slash Ruben Report.

00:36:56.000 You can watch them everywhere.

00:36:57.000 We're going to talk more about LGBTQAIP and a silent number two. 0.93

00:37:03.000 Stay tuned.

00:37:03.000 Lauder with Crowder.

00:37:04.000 This is Breaking Middle and Louder with Crowder.

00:37:31.000 I'm Perry Matheson.

00:37:32.000 We're taking now the wake of the New York primary to Governor John Kasich as he makes his last campaign stop at a Chipotle in Mexican cuisine.

00:37:44.000 I can't tell you how glad I am to be here among everyday Americans who serve not only delicious food, but really join us together in a positive fusion of Mexican and American cuisine.

00:38:01.000 I'm also happy to open up the floor for questions, but not too long.

00:38:06.000 I really want to dig into this taco salad.

00:38:10.000 Yes, you sir.

00:38:16.000 Now, who let him in here?

00:38:19.000 The public space.

00:38:21.000 But still, are you just following me around?

00:38:25.000 Playing Semisonics Closing Time?

00:38:29.000 Pretty much.

00:38:30.000 And you don't have anything better to do, huh?

00:38:35.000 I lost my job.

00:38:36.000 A lot of Americans lost their job.

00:38:38.000 That's why I'm running for the highest office in the land.

00:38:43.000 In Ohio!

00:38:44.000 Are you a governor?

00:38:46.000 Well, I don't think that's really... 1.00

00:38:48.000 You suck! 1.00

00:38:49.000 Hey! 1.00

00:38:51.000 I do not... 0.94

00:38:52.000 I do not suck. 0.96

00:38:55.000 I do not want to take me home. 0.99

00:38:58.000 I do not want to take me home. 0.98

00:39:00.000 You're a strange animal. 0.98

00:39:08.000 That's what I know. 1.00

00:39:10.000 But you're a strange animal. 0.93

00:39:16.000 I got to follow. 0.53

00:39:17.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

00:39:19.000 All right, he is a busy man, so we have to let him go.

00:39:21.000 We can't take him for too long.

00:39:23.000 YouTube.com slash Rubin Report.

00:39:25.000 Dave Rubin, thank you for being here.

00:39:26.000 We were talking about this before the break.

00:39:28.000 Yeah, you know, I've been fighting this fight for a long time on YouTube, really going back to 2009, 2006, if you count some semi-political videos.

00:39:36.000 And it wasn't very popular back then.

00:39:38.000 There were no Dave Rubins.

00:39:40.000 You know, everyone was a militant leftist atheist because they were in the environment.

00:39:43.000 They hated George Bush. 0.66

00:39:45.000 And so everyone who was conservative was racist.

00:39:47.000 And so I think my reputation precedes me, because a lot of those people have sort of transitioned, but still begrudging, like, no, but I still hate that Crowder guy, whereas nothing I'm saying is any different. 0.96

00:39:57.000 So I think you drafted back in there behind the flying V, but I'm glad to help you out, and I'm glad you're in the fold.

00:40:04.000 I'm glad that I can provide you with a little self-affirmation.

00:40:07.000 Yes.

00:40:08.000 Well, people, you didn't exist.

00:40:09.000 You did not exist.

00:40:12.000 Or at least maybe you were under certain, I don't know, certain contracts or authority where maybe you couldn't.

00:40:17.000 But people out there just didn't believe you existed.

00:40:19.000 I will be 100% honest with you as I would be with you all the time.

00:40:23.000 I didn't have my awakening yet.

00:40:24.000 I mean, it really cracked in the last two years.

00:40:27.000 So I was what I would now consider to be far left.

00:40:31.000 And my intentions were always good.

00:40:34.000 And that's why the phrase, you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

00:40:39.000 I think a lot of these people have good intentions.

00:40:41.000 You know, sometimes you'll throw out, you'll say, well, these left And there's this implication that they're all just profoundly and intentionally evil.

00:40:50.000 Some of them are.

00:40:51.000 Some of them are evil.

00:40:52.000 I'll give you that much.

00:40:53.000 But a lot of them do think that this social justice warrior stuff, that all of this stuff really is the right road to take.

00:41:01.000 And that's why I've tried to make my show about ideas, because I don't want to demonize them to the point where I can't talk to them.

00:41:08.000 I've been trying to show people that there is a little bit of a wider net here, and that's why it's working.

00:41:12.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:41:15.000 You know, I separated into, and I was writing a book about this a while back.

00:41:18.000 Maybe I'll finish it, but all the conservative publishers were like, eh, we don't really do comedy, and it's not doomsday enough.

00:41:23.000 They said everything has to be an Obama doomsday book right now, or it doesn't sell.

00:41:26.000 This isn't like the wake of Obama blueprint, and I think killing whatever was...

00:41:30.000 There's so many killing books.

00:41:32.000 How many killings has O'Reilly done already? 0.53

00:41:35.000 Well, eventually I think it'll lead to killing O'Reilly, and then it'll spare us all. 0.64

00:41:38.000 That's a good one.

00:41:39.000 I think what happened is... 1.00

00:41:42.000 There are two kinds of what I call modern leftists, or you call them the regressive left, and then just the American idiots. 1.00

00:41:47.000 Because Green Day is American idiot, right? 1.00

00:41:49.000 They went to the UK to record their anti-American song, and people pumped their fists. 1.00

00:41:52.000 Yeah, America sucks! 0.96

00:41:54.000 And I remember seeing them live in Canada and bright eyes, and they would just come there and say, I'm moving to Canada, right? 0.99

00:41:59.000 And it was an easy applause break.

00:42:00.000 It was like as a comedian, right?

00:42:01.000 You're in, hey, hello, Lancaster!

00:42:03.000 Ah!

00:42:04.000 They always come and bash Bush.

00:42:06.000 And there are those people who lie, the James Camerons, the people out there in heads of media, the Sean Penns who are dishonest, who are so vested in the agenda they can't get off of it.

00:42:16.000 And then I think there are a lot of people, like you said, who just buy it.

00:42:18.000 There aren't bad intentions, but they believe it.

00:42:21.000 And it's important to delineate between the two.

00:42:23.000 But I think there are far more people who are malicious and dishonest than I wanted to believe for a long time.

00:42:29.000 When you have Barack Obama going up and talking about the pay gap that we know is false, we know anyone with just a basic intern who can do statistics knows it's untrue.

00:42:40.000 That's a president who's being dishonest to forward an agenda.

00:42:43.000 And that's, I would say, my awakening, where I always say I don't want to attribute to collusion what can be attributed to incompetence.

00:42:49.000 I think there's a lot more collusion than I once believed.

00:42:52.000 Well, you know, it's funny to me because if you think about the Bernie campaign, right, you know, he relentlessly talks, obviously, money in politics is the number one thing.

00:43:00.000 There's no question.

00:43:01.000 And, you know, I think people on both sides of the aisle do think that money in politics is a huge problem.

00:43:06.000 But, you know, he also talks about...

00:43:08.000 Totally for Citizens United, but you can continue.

00:43:10.000 You are for Citizens United?

00:43:12.000 Absolutely.

00:43:12.000 Do you know why it started?

00:43:14.000 I don't have any idea why.

00:43:16.000 People have no idea why.

00:43:17.000 Do you know why Citizens United exists?

00:43:19.000 Because they wanted to ban an anti-Hillary Clinton documentary.

00:43:22.000 That's the court case.

00:43:23.000 They were saying, no, you can't release this before an election, and it was going to be banned.

00:43:27.000 They were going to say, nope, you can't fund this, this can't go out, and so these filmmakers fought it, so they would have the right to make an anti-Hillary Clinton documentary. 0.98

00:43:34.000 That's the basis for it.

00:43:35.000 And so they said, no, corporations have the same rights as people.

00:43:38.000 They recognize them as personhood, so these filmmakers could make an anti-Hillary documentary. 1.00

00:43:42.000 People need to read up on the history of citizens.

00:43:43.000 There needs to be corrections because of that case.

00:43:46.000 But it's not overturning the right of businesses to have a say in politics.

00:43:51.000 All right.

00:43:52.000 So be that as it may.

00:43:53.000 And as I said, the road to hell is paid with good intentions.

00:43:55.000 They had some good intentions with the law then.

00:43:57.000 I'll give you that.

00:43:59.000 But that doesn't mean that money in politics isn't a problem.

00:44:03.000 But anyway, the point is that when Bernie says this stuff, money in politics, and he talks about all America's wars, and he talks about health care...

00:44:10.000 What he's really saying is that Barack Obama has been a horrible president.

00:44:15.000 Right?

00:44:15.000 Because, look, you can blame, we can all, again, spend an endless amount of time blaming George Bush for Iraq, and nobody's defending the Iraq war anymore.

00:44:15.000 Right.

00:44:24.000 And guess what?

00:44:24.000 Saddam Hussein was a pretty horrible guy doing some horrible stuff, and we didn't have YouTube as excessively back then to see all the awful things he was doing and throwing gays off roofs and, you know, the horrible torture chambers and gassing the Kurds and all kinds of terrible stuff.

00:44:38.000 But he loved Raisin Bran Crunch, so there's that.

00:44:40.000 Right.

00:44:41.000 But the point is that if, as Bernie is running on, Saying all the American wars and our health care system so screwed up and the money in politics.

00:44:50.000 Well, it's been a pretty left guy in the Oval Office for the last seven years.

00:44:56.000 So Obama hasn't, I guess what Bernie's saying is, well, Obama hasn't done anything about our wars.

00:45:00.000 There's still plenty of drone strikes, right?

00:45:02.000 I think I just read this morning that we're sending 200 troops on the ground back to Iraq or something.

00:45:08.000 You know, obviously our health care, Obamacare, didn't work out as well as Obama would have liked because then Bernie wouldn't be talking about it.

00:45:14.000 Right.

00:45:14.000 So there's an interesting condemnation of the left by Bernie that I don't think people have quite woken up to.

00:45:21.000 I think you're right, and I was just...

00:45:22.000 When I wrote about it, I was saying, well, who do you have to blame?

00:45:26.000 Obama had, for the first several years, he could do whatever he wanted, and he did.

00:45:29.000 And the same reason people are upset with Republicans is they haven't stopped any of it.

00:45:32.000 What Obama's wanted, he's gotten done.

00:45:33.000 And they just want more done.

00:45:35.000 They just want more control.

00:45:36.000 They want a public option.

00:45:37.000 They want to keep moving further.

00:45:38.000 And that's why I say if people want to talk about extremes...

00:45:41.000 I think I am far less extreme than certainly Bernie or Barack Obama.

00:45:46.000 I don't think it's far more extreme to say, okay, hold on, this health care plan didn't work.

00:45:49.000 Let's allow people to opt out.

00:45:51.000 Let's allow private organizations exemptions.

00:45:54.000 Let's allow insurance across state lines. 0.94

00:45:57.000 Tort reform.

00:45:58.000 One is a much more extreme position.

00:46:00.000 And I think that's where people like you have had an awakening.

00:46:04.000 And I've awakened, listen, like we talked about.

00:46:06.000 It's the clickbait, the issues right now.

00:46:08.000 There's some dishonesty in the media on the right.

00:46:10.000 And we both have a problem with that.

00:46:12.000 And there aren't many people out there doing what you're doing.

00:46:14.000 So, you know, even though you're off in Cabo.

00:46:17.000 It's lonely, man.

00:46:18.000 Well, it's not lonely when you're off in Cabo with all your...

00:46:20.000 I don't know what you guys do.

00:46:21.000 I'm assuming it's like a Folsom Street Fair on the beach.

00:46:23.000 But...

00:46:25.000 I'm married.

00:46:26.000 We literally laid on the beach.

00:46:28.000 My phone was locked in a safe for nine days.

00:46:31.000 I don't buy it for a second.

00:46:35.000 You people are scandalous.

00:46:37.000 And I won't have it on my program here.

00:46:41.000 YouTube.com slash Dave Rubin.

00:46:44.000 Thank you so much, brother.

00:46:45.000 And stay tuned for more Ladder with Crowder.

00:46:49.000 It only takes a time This week in Not Gay Jared's Diet Habits. 0.82

00:47:01.000 What are those, Cheez-Its?

00:47:03.000 Yeah, did you want some?

00:47:04.000 Are you dipping Cheez-Its in ranch?

00:47:07.000 Yes.

00:47:08.000 After you did the energy drink and Skittles earlier?

00:47:10.000 Yeah.

00:47:11.000 There's no way for your body to be able to function at anything close to optimal.

00:47:16.000 Don't worry about it.

00:47:17.000 I ate asparagus.

00:47:22.000 Stay tuned for more of Not Gay Jared's Diet Habits. 0.86

00:47:24.000 Not Gay Jared's Diet Habits. 1.00

00:47:34.000 Here we go.

00:47:35.000 Glad to be glad to be back.

00:47:57.000 Did you not have the mic on again?

00:47:58.000 We're in the second hour.

00:48:00.000 Mine was not on then, but yours was on.

00:48:02.000 Producing with me in studio as always.

00:48:04.000 By the way, people watching the live video stream, people who comment, they're always off beat.

00:48:07.000 It's because there's a delay in a live video stream.

00:48:10.000 So we're actually dancing to the real song, and they're getting a couple seconds left.

00:48:13.000 And there you go, lying to them again about your rhythm skills.

00:48:16.000 You're just...

00:48:17.000 Well, I don't have rhythm.

00:48:18.000 I don't deny that I have no rhythm.

00:48:21.000 But speaking of rhythm, getting back to the rhythm of the show, we have Gavin McInnes at the half hour, the bottom of the hour.

00:48:28.000 And then we have an exclusive with Curt Schilling.

00:48:31.000 Yes.

00:48:32.000 Got canned from ESPN. I don't think he minds us using that terminology.

00:48:35.000 So a lot has been going on this week.

00:48:37.000 By the way, tweet me at escrowder.

00:48:39.000 What do you think?

00:48:40.000 I want to know, really, from people who are Trump supporters.

00:48:43.000 We have people who follow this program.

00:48:45.000 It's no secret that I'm not a big fan.

00:48:47.000 Where do you line up with the guys' comments on the trans bathroom laws?

00:48:51.000 And where did you line up with Curt Schilling?

00:48:53.000 Do you feel that your position is consistent?

00:48:56.000 I would like to hear that.

00:48:59.000 So, a couple of things we're going to talk about.

00:49:01.000 Have you heard about this Whole Foods controversy?

00:49:02.000 I did.

00:49:03.000 I saw the pictures going up, and I didn't really know what it was about, so I did some reading, and it's pretty hilarious, actually.

00:49:08.000 It is pretty funny.

00:49:09.000 We have it up on my screen here.

00:49:10.000 For those who didn't read it at the site, you can read it up at louderwithcrowder.com.

00:49:14.000 So it started out this horrible controversy.

00:49:16.000 Gay guy asks to have a wedding cake made that says love wins. 0.99

00:49:21.000 So there we go. 0.57

00:49:21.000 We can see it right there. 0.57

00:49:22.000 And then he tweeted out, I can't believe Whole Foods. 0.99

00:49:25.000 And it says, love wins, fag, on the cake. 1.00

00:49:29.000 Saying the baker did a love wins, calling him the F word. 0.98

00:49:33.000 The F word that we're not allowed.

00:49:35.000 The three letter.

00:49:36.000 The three letter.

00:49:36.000 Yeah, he was referring to him as a cigarette.

00:49:38.000 I find it so funny.

00:49:39.000 I have to say F word.

00:49:40.000 I bet you some stations are going to...

00:49:41.000 We're not going to bleep that.

00:49:42.000 It was on the cake. 0.99

00:49:43.000 It said, love wins, fag. 1.00

00:49:44.000 So, right away, this didn't pass the sniff test. 0.99

00:49:47.000 Because I'm going, okay, this just seems like an incredible liability.

00:49:51.000 It's not really clever.

00:49:53.000 Why would someone do this?

00:49:54.000 He's from Whole Foods, the hipster bastion of groceries.

00:49:57.000 Right, the hipster bastion.

00:49:58.000 Except for, funny enough, the guy's actually a libertarian when it comes to the Affordable Care Act.

00:50:02.000 Well, he's from Texas.

00:50:02.000 Did you know Whole Foods is a Texas company?

00:50:03.000 I've been to the first Whole Foods there in Austin.

00:50:06.000 Yeah.

00:50:07.000 Right near where Lance Armstrong had his bike and or testicle steroids shop.

00:50:12.000 And it's very nice.

00:50:14.000 It's very nice Whole Foods.

00:50:15.000 I don't like Whole Foods.

00:50:16.000 My wife loves Whole Foods.

00:50:17.000 I think it's overpriced, and you can go to the local farmer's market.

00:50:20.000 Anyway, that's not the point.

00:50:22.000 Right away, I didn't pass the smell test.

00:50:23.000 But at this point, it had already been trending, hashtag, right, social justice warriors all over the place.

00:50:28.000 Oh, how dare you put this on a cake?

00:50:31.000 Then we have security camera footage of this gay man with the Love Wins cake. 0.99

00:50:36.000 What are you doing? 0.98

00:50:37.000 Not Gay Jerry's like fidgeting around in his chair. 1.00

00:50:39.000 My chair is all messed up and cut on the carpet.

00:50:42.000 We're good now.

00:50:43.000 Yeah, we're good.

00:50:44.000 So we now have the security footage, which I have here at the website, where he takes his cake, looks at the cake, and walks out with that incident. 0.75

00:50:51.000 So right away you're going, well, you know, if I'm gay and I have the word fag written across my cake, I'll go, hey, I want to love wins. 0.99

00:50:58.000 Oh, you wrote love wins fag. 0.99

00:50:59.000 Well, that's one way to do it. 0.98

00:51:00.000 Go back to the picture.

00:51:01.000 It's like right dead center, too.

00:51:03.000 There's no missing it if you're walking out with it accidentally.

00:51:06.000 Yeah, there's the picture right up on the screen.

00:51:06.000 There it is.

00:51:07.000 Yeah, there's no missing this. 1.00

00:51:10.000 And if you're gay, you don't see a cake that says love wins fag. 1.00

00:51:13.000 You're like, oh, that's one for you. 1.00

00:51:15.000 Bye.

00:51:15.000 You know, you're upset.

00:51:17.000 Well, the security camera footage, the camera footage at Whole Foods of this purchase taking place reveals nothing of the sort.

00:51:23.000 So, not only did Whole Foods, then Whole Foods came out and said, this didn't happen.

00:51:26.000 This is not true.

00:51:27.000 A hoax debunked faster than Balloon Boy or Clock Boy.

00:51:31.000 Yes.

00:51:32.000 Remember the kid who put a clock in a suitcase?

00:51:34.000 And he was like, I'm a science engineer.

00:51:36.000 Yeah, you and Bill Nye are scientists.

00:51:38.000 Mohammed. 0.68

00:51:38.000 Yeah, Mohammed. 0.68

00:51:39.000 Was his name Mohammed?

00:51:41.000 I think it was.

00:51:42.000 I don't know.

00:51:43.000 I don't know.

00:51:44.000 He's in, how do you pronounce it?

00:51:45.000 Qatar? 0.56

00:51:46.000 How do you pronounce it?

00:51:46.000 Qatar.

00:51:47.000 I always pronounce it.

00:51:48.000 I don't know.

00:51:48.000 It's probably a different country now.

00:51:53.000 Someone's been thrown off a roof with a lisp at some point.

00:51:56.000 Point is, Dave Rubin's not visiting anytime soon.

00:51:58.000 No.

00:51:59.000 So, this hoax is debunked and they say no, this didn't happen. 0.96

00:52:03.000 Not only did it not happen, the baker who made the cake, Little Wrinkle, is also gay. 0.98

00:52:09.000 It came out and was like, I wouldn't write that. 0.66

00:52:11.000 I'm gay.

00:52:12.000 So this is entirely false. 0.54

00:52:13.000 It's entirely fake, manufactured, just like we have another story where a man was suspended, expelled from Colorado State University for not raping a woman.

00:52:22.000 He didn't rape her.

00:52:22.000 The girl said that he didn't rape her, but a friend said that he did rape her, and so he was expelled.

00:52:27.000 The ends justify the means with leftists.

00:52:29.000 It doesn't matter if it's true or not.

00:52:32.000 And why do you have to make it the right left?

00:52:33.000 Because there is the right left.

00:52:35.000 I was talking about this at the college when I was talking with these students at Bucknell. 0.80

00:52:39.000 There's one group of people who want to paint everyone as racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic as a new thing, androgynous phobic, intersex phobic. 1.00

00:52:48.000 They want to paint everyone as though they're somehow discriminatory, horrible, just subhuman scum. 1.00

00:52:54.000 Why? 1.00

00:52:55.000 Because it makes it okay to treat them inhumanely.

00:52:57.000 If you believed that you could somehow manipulate people, if you could go back and manipulate people into...

00:53:04.000 Not liking Hitler.

00:53:05.000 Sway public opinion.

00:53:06.000 You'd probably say, hey, you know what?

00:53:07.000 The ends justify the means.

00:53:09.000 I can lie about Hitler if it means saving people. 0.97

00:53:11.000 Well, they see people who disagree with them as people who need to be eliminated.

00:53:15.000 And so right here, it doesn't matter that it's not true. 0.99

00:53:17.000 I'm just going to put fag on there. 0.99

00:53:18.000 It doesn't matter that I wasn't raped. 1.00

00:53:20.000 Let's just get this guy expelled. 1.00

00:53:22.000 And they're even harming other gay people. 0.95

00:53:25.000 You know what's probably happened? 0.95

00:53:26.000 This gay guy who made this cake, if he's not a Republican, he's probably a libertarian now.

00:53:31.000 He's probably not on board with the social justice warrior LGBTQAAIP movement. 0.88

00:53:36.000 Say anything to move an agenda, yeah.

00:53:38.000 Yeah, did you see who it was?

00:53:39.000 He was some liberal pastor from some...

00:53:41.000 Liberal pastor, yeah.

00:53:42.000 You know, Mary the Gay's Church.

00:53:44.000 A leftist pastor. 0.99

00:53:46.000 Listen, if you want to be a pastor and be gay, that's fine. 0.99

00:53:48.000 Especially like Sean King's a pastor. 0.98

00:53:49.000 Remember that?

00:53:49.000 Sean King is a pastor?

00:53:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:51.000 I always forget about that.

00:53:52.000 Now, do you know what church?

00:53:54.000 I don't know, but I know he talked a lot about doing mission trips and things like that.

00:53:58.000 I think down in, I want to say Haiti or something.

00:54:00.000 That's about all I know.

00:54:01.000 Do you think he went down to Haiti and tried to tell him he was black?

00:54:05.000 I want to know that.

00:54:06.000 I bet that's where he tested it out.

00:54:09.000 On the American black kind of-ish. 0.87

00:54:12.000 We look very different.

00:54:13.000 Very different.

00:54:14.000 Very different.

00:54:14.000 Different lineage.

00:54:16.000 That was like his open mic testing material out.

00:54:18.000 Sean King went down to Zambia on mission work and convinced them.

00:54:21.000 That's the sketch series right there.

00:54:23.000 So this guy who's gay makes the cake and he gets blamed for- Now, here's my issue with it, right? 0.79

00:54:28.000 This is what really matters. 0.99

00:54:30.000 Same thing with the Ted Cruz sex scandal, right?

00:54:32.000 Not a single one of these conspiracy theories have all been proven false or certainly not proven true.

00:54:37.000 Time and time again, you can only prove so many things false and go, okay, we have to move on.

00:54:41.000 That happens.

00:54:42.000 That's front page.

00:54:44.000 But when things are proven false, that's page six.

00:54:48.000 Love wins.

00:54:49.000 Whole Foods.

00:54:50.000 Front page HuffPo.

00:54:51.000 HuffPo, salon, these places.

00:54:53.000 Nowhere to be found. 0.96

00:54:54.000 Nowhere to be found when it turns out that no one wrote a fag on a cake. 0.90

00:55:00.000 They're nowhere to be found. 0.68

00:55:01.000 That happened with me, where they did this a while ago.

00:55:03.000 I've been, I've looked behind the curtain, right?

00:55:05.000 Both with conservatives, okay?

00:55:07.000 With the right-wing media and left-wing media, okay?

00:55:11.000 You name the network, I've done it.

00:55:13.000 You name the show, I've probably done it.

00:55:16.000 And this is what they do.

00:55:18.000 HuffPo did it.

00:55:18.000 They said, you know, I yelled the N-word at CPAC. Chris Lash.

00:55:23.000 It was front page.

00:55:24.000 They issued the retraction, but this was front page, dead center, trending.

00:55:29.000 And then when they found out it was wrong, we were using the word knickers, and even in the video, if you go watch it, it's very clear.

00:55:33.000 We say knickers and make a joke about the word knickers.

00:55:36.000 You can not like the joke, but not lie and say you yell the n-word.

00:55:40.000 The retraction is six pages in.

00:55:43.000 The damage has already been done.

00:55:44.000 And that's the same thing that leftists do with this guy who's been expelled for not raping somebody.

00:55:49.000 Or Mattress Girl. 0.99

00:55:50.000 If you've been accused of it, the damage is done.

00:55:53.000 And we're at a point, for sure, talking about the rape issue, where there are probably far more male students whose lives are ruined by the accusation of rape with no substantiation than there are actual rapes on campus.

00:56:07.000 I know it's hard to verify, but I would be willing to bet my bottom dollar if we could actually get into those numbers accurately.

00:56:13.000 It is so much easier, like Lena Dunham, to sell books and falsely accuse someone of rape.

00:56:18.000 By the way, you were reaching in your sister's hooch looking for rocks. 0.51

00:56:23.000 And you're going to complain about fictional rape, right? 0.91

00:56:27.000 So don't look at this literal child molestation. 0.96

00:56:30.000 Ugh. 0.99

00:56:31.000 Rape! 1.00

00:56:32.000 You won't find any shiny rocks up Lennon Dunham's hooch. 0.96

00:56:34.000 It wasn't her.

00:56:35.000 I'm just saying, if you're talking about...

00:56:35.000 It was her sister.

00:56:37.000 I can use that word.

00:56:38.000 It sounds dirtier coming from you.

00:56:40.000 Say hoo-ha. 0.97

00:56:41.000 Hoo-ha.

00:56:42.000 There is no good word for the female anatomy. 1.00

00:56:45.000 You got schwing-schwang. 1.00

00:56:46.000 You got lots of schwants.

00:56:47.000 That's for men. 1.00

00:56:48.000 I know.

00:56:48.000 For men, you've got lots of options.

00:56:50.000 Yeah.

00:56:50.000 Schmeckle, Tallywacker, Doniger, One-Eyed Bald Man, Purple Helmet Warrior.

00:56:53.000 You can go on all day.

00:56:55.000 But with women, there's no term for it that you would want to use in front of your mother. 1.00

00:57:00.000 How do you feel about bajingo?

00:57:01.000 Is that an actual term?

00:57:02.000 I heard it on scrubs.

00:57:04.000 For a woman?

00:57:05.000 For a woman, yeah. 1.00

00:57:06.000 Bajingo. 1.00

00:57:07.000 I don't know.

00:57:07.000 There's options.

00:57:08.000 We've gotten way off track here.

00:57:11.000 But it's true.

00:57:12.000 Anyway, tweet me your favorite word for the female anatomy, at S. Crowder, that you think is appropriate. 0.93

00:57:17.000 I'm not talking about, like, boudoir talk. 0.90

00:57:19.000 I'm talking, if you have to talk, like, you know, if I talked with my mom when I got kicked in the nuts in school, I can say, Mom, this girl kicked me in the nuts.

00:57:27.000 Remember when kids would do that in school because it was, like, their trend? 0.61

00:57:29.000 Male privilege, whack.

00:57:31.000 Um...

00:57:33.000 But if I were a woman, if I were a little girl, how would I go to my dad and say, Dad, I was kicked in the blank.

00:57:40.000 Or how would you talk to a five-year-old girl if you had to, like...

00:57:46.000 I don't talk to little kids.

00:57:48.000 It's a liability.

00:57:50.000 You just say one thing.

00:57:51.000 Again, how often...

00:57:52.000 I told this story before.

00:57:53.000 I had a kid who was like a third cousin.

00:57:56.000 His mom was a drunk. 0.97

00:57:58.000 His dad was a drug addict. 0.95

00:57:59.000 All lived on our block.

00:58:00.000 And he asked me for my Game Boy.

00:58:04.000 I said, no, you can't have my game.

00:58:05.000 And I had given him my old Game Boy, by the way, Mikael.

00:58:07.000 I had given him my old Game Boy.

00:58:09.000 But he asked for my new one at this point.

00:58:11.000 It was a Game Boy Color. 0.98

00:58:12.000 When I said no, he started yelling at the top of his lungs, pedophile. 0.99

00:58:15.000 The top of his lungs! 1.00

00:58:18.000 I slapped him. 0.86

00:58:19.000 I did slap him. 0.98

00:58:19.000 I shouldn't have, but I was like, pedophile! 0.98

00:58:23.000 Ah! 0.96

00:58:23.000 Whack! 0.96

00:58:24.000 What did I do?

00:58:25.000 And I asked him decisions to make.

00:58:26.000 Here's the sad part.

00:58:27.000 That kid's dad didn't have visitation rights because everyone accused him of being a pedophile.

00:58:32.000 And this kid went on to accuse five more people of being pedophiles because they didn't give him their Tony Hawk Pro Skateboarder 2 video game.

00:58:38.000 My point here, to tie it back, is the LGBTQAIP, or Mattress Girl, or these people who falsely claim rape, are no better than five-year-old children who simply yell and scream to get what they want. 0.93

00:58:50.000 The difference is, you destroy lives.

00:58:53.000 So, if anyone tells you, I can't believe that happened at Whole Foods...

00:58:57.000 Send them a story.

00:58:58.000 Make sure they know it's not true.

00:58:59.000 Mattress Girl, you need to make sure they know it's not true.

00:59:01.000 You will be stunned to realize how many people in your circle of friends...

00:59:06.000 Sean King's not white.

00:59:07.000 Sean King's not black.

00:59:08.000 Sean King's not black.

00:59:08.000 Not black.

00:59:09.000 Gosh, you're confusing me. 0.96

00:59:10.000 I'm confusing me. 0.99

00:59:11.000 It's like black like me, only lies. 0.98

00:59:13.000 Loudworth Crowder will be back. 1.00

00:59:14.000 My brain is...

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00:59:35.000 Really simple.

00:59:36.000 Some of you don't know where to find me.

00:59:38.000 LouderWithCrowder.com.

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00:59:42.000 Follow me at S. Crowder.

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00:59:59.000 You have no excuse.

01:00:00.000 You have no excuse just like you have no excuse for those roles that are just cascading over your belt buckle you should be ashamed.

01:00:07.000 Unless you're a lady. 1.00

01:00:08.000 Then you deserve a medal.

01:00:09.000 Get her a medal.

01:00:10.000 And now for Sean King Makes Excuses.

01:00:21.000 Sponsored by Twitter and Jack Dorsey.

01:00:23.000 Mr.

01:00:23.000 King, there have been several allegations, not the least of which is that you are in fact not black, also that you have plagiarized your recent content, also that you have lied about the transferring of funds as they relate to Black Lives Matter and other racially Motivated non-profit.

01:00:47.000 Yes, but you don't understand something.

01:00:50.000 What's that? 1.00

01:00:51.000 My mom was a whore, y'all. 1.00

01:00:53.000 Calling your mom a whore doesn't sound like a very black thing to do. 1.00

01:00:56.000 I mean, she was a real filthy whore. 1.00

01:00:59.000 I don't think we're buying it. 1.00

01:01:01.000 Man, I'm telling you, that bitch was a whore. 1.00

01:01:03.000 Getting blacker! 1.00

01:01:04.000 It's not my fault that my mom slept with a man who was white, black... 0.99

01:01:12.000 Show stuff with so many people I don't remember. 0.93

01:01:13.000 You're really not very good at this.

01:01:19.000 That's been this week's installment of Sean King Makes Excuses.

01:01:48.000 That feels good.

01:01:50.000 I was just sitting back into my chair.

01:01:51.000 I got my lower back support right.

01:01:53.000 I'm glad.

01:01:54.000 I'm happy for you.

01:01:55.000 Coming up after the break, we will have Gavin McInnes, and we will play newest gender pronoun for people who don't know.

01:02:01.000 There are a lot of new nouns for genders on Tumblr.

01:02:05.000 There are hundreds, in case you didn't know.

01:02:06.000 They call them otherkins.

01:02:08.000 And we are going to see who knows that deep, dark realm of the world best.

01:02:15.000 Okay, speaking about equality...

01:02:17.000 Here's another story, and Courtney Kirchhoff wrote about this at the website.

01:02:20.000 Of course, she's brilliant.

01:02:21.000 You can follow her at Courtney Scoffs.

01:02:24.000 We've talked about this, about women on the front lines, right?

01:02:27.000 Equality.

01:02:27.000 Great example we've had Karen Strawn on.

01:02:29.000 Women shouldn't have gotten the right to vote the way they did. 1.00

01:02:34.000 Take that out of context.

01:02:35.000 Go ahead.

01:02:37.000 The reason most women didn't want to vote is because they didn't want the draft. 1.00

01:02:41.000 They didn't want the mandatory requirements that came with voting.

01:02:43.000 It wasn't seen as a basic human right.

01:02:45.000 It was seen as a privilege.

01:02:46.000 They didn't want to perform bucket duty.

01:02:47.000 It was mandatory firefighter service.

01:02:49.000 So most women were going, well, if that's what comes with the right to vote, no, no thank you. 1.00

01:02:53.000 And guys won them the right to vote.

01:02:55.000 Not saying women shouldn't have the right to vote today. 0.51

01:02:58.000 My point is, it was never actually based on equality.

01:03:03.000 Because equality would be, okay, you vote, you're in the draft, and you have to perform firefighter services, and if you don't, you're kicked out and you're shunned from society.

01:03:10.000 Same thing, there have been laws to protect female spouses that really don't exist or certainly aren't enacted to protect male spouses, right?

01:03:16.000 Abuse actually goes both ways.

01:03:18.000 Mothers tend to be more abusive than fathers. 1.00

01:03:20.000 People don't realize that because there isn't a lifetime movie of the mother pushing the father down the stairs.

01:03:24.000 It happens all the time!

01:03:27.000 So, equality.

01:03:28.000 We talked about this.

01:03:29.000 Women going into the military.

01:03:30.000 Would it lower standards?

01:03:31.000 Well, here is something that is statistically observable.

01:03:33.000 What are statistics?

01:03:35.000 Said the lady at Bucknell.

01:03:36.000 We're biased.

01:03:37.000 All the statistics.

01:03:38.000 In the Marines, women can't do pull-ups. 1.00

01:03:42.000 The people who are going out there in a very physical endeavor to defend your country on the front lines are less equipped than junior high school boys.

01:03:52.000 Let's just be real here.

01:03:54.000 Okay?

01:03:56.000 Data collection in 2013 found that 55% of female recruits couldn't meet the minimum requirement. 1.00

01:04:05.000 A study of 318 female Marines found that women could complete, on average, 1.63 pull-ups. 0.99

01:04:14.000 Roughly 20% of those Marines could only hit three pull-ups if they use their lower bodies in a kipping motion.

01:04:21.000 The average for a woman was 1.63 pull-ups. 0.99

01:04:28.000 Listen, I know some guys out there can't do that. 0.73

01:04:32.000 You're weak.

01:04:34.000 You are a very weak man if you can't do two pull-ups, okay? 0.97

01:04:38.000 And it's something that, by the way, as a man, doesn't take more than a few weeks. 0.52

01:04:43.000 I've talked about this.

01:04:45.000 When it comes to pull-ups, you know, I told that story about my dad breaking the school record, right?

01:04:49.000 Yeah, you did tell me that.

01:04:50.000 Yeah, it wasn't a woman who broke it. 1.00

01:04:51.000 She's a bitch! 1.00

01:04:52.000 No, hold on. 1.00

01:04:52.000 I don't know what just happened there. 1.00

01:04:54.000 What happened, my dad, my uncle set the school pull-up record in junior high, okay?

01:04:59.000 I don't know if it's still, it was in Detroit somewhere, and it was, I want to say, nine at the time.

01:05:06.000 Another guy came in and beat it.

01:05:08.000 And it was, I want to say like 11.

01:05:11.000 So my uncle went down to my dad.

01:05:12.000 My dad was three years younger.

01:05:13.000 He said, hey, hey, hey man, you got to restore the family honor.

01:05:16.000 You have to set the pull-up record.

01:05:18.000 We'll have Pops Crowder on maybe next week to talk about it.

01:05:18.000 This is all true.

01:05:21.000 It was his own personal hell for half of that year in school.

01:05:25.000 He said, you got to restore the honor.

01:05:27.000 I'm gone.

01:05:27.000 I'm out of school now.

01:05:28.000 My record got broken.

01:05:29.000 He said, let's go downstairs.

01:05:30.000 I went downstairs and they had a pipe.

01:05:31.000 He said, let's see how many you could do.

01:05:33.000 My dad couldn't do one.

01:05:36.000 My uncle wasn't a very nice older brother. 1.00

01:05:38.000 He said, you're pathetic. 1.00

01:05:39.000 And he just walked up. 1.00

01:05:41.000 And my dad, every single day, went down and practiced pull-ups.

01:05:46.000 All the time.

01:05:46.000 It's what we call greasing the groove.

01:05:48.000 Just to get to the point where he was able to do one.

01:05:50.000 He was able to do two.

01:05:51.000 And then the day where it came to set the school record, He went home and he had read that honey was good energy, so he actually just guzzled a bottle of honey, peanut butter, banana sandwiches, and guzzled honey.

01:06:01.000 And he went in and he set the school record with 13.

01:06:05.000 Now, that doesn't sound like a lot.

01:06:06.000 You're talking about junior high school, so I want to say he was 12 or 13.

01:06:09.000 And then, so he lived in his own personal hell, but he got to that.

01:06:12.000 Why?

01:06:13.000 Because it was hard.

01:06:14.000 He overcame it, and he was so scared to lose, right?

01:06:18.000 He was terrified.

01:06:19.000 And then his friend, actually, one of the Percheroni brothers, came in, just a little short Italian guy, came in the next year and blew it away with, like, 21. 0.99

01:06:26.000 It wasn't even close.

01:06:28.000 Probably a way to fraction.

01:06:29.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:06:31.000 The point is, he took the challenge, and he didn't say, hey, well, can we scale this back?

01:06:36.000 Took it, met it, did it.

01:06:39.000 These women who are in the Marines... 1.00

01:06:41.000 So let's be honest here.

01:06:41.000 People say, oh, that person's tough, man.

01:06:43.000 They're in the Marines.

01:06:44.000 I wouldn't mess with them.

01:06:46.000 This is a chick. 1.00

01:06:47.000 She can only do 1.6 pull-ups! 1.00

01:06:51.000 What do you mean, you people?

01:06:52.000 I mean women. 0.98

01:06:53.000 What do you mean, you people?

01:06:54.000 I mean women. 1.00

01:06:55.000 You're weak. 0.98

01:06:57.000 They are weak, and they shouldn't be in positions that require any kind of physical attributes if they don't have them.

01:07:04.000 So this is where we are in the military.

01:07:07.000 At that point, I'm reading from the article, the Marine Corps allowed women to choose.

01:07:10.000 This is the problem.

01:07:11.000 Choose between pull-ups and the flexed arm hang as officials develop a new plan.

01:07:11.000 It leads into this.

01:07:17.000 You know what the new plan was? 0.99

01:07:18.000 They developed a new plan and it was, ah, crap. 0.96

01:07:21.000 We lowered the PT requirements. 0.98

01:07:22.000 This is a joke.

01:07:23.000 What is it?

01:07:24.000 What are they not able to do?

01:07:25.000 Ten?

01:07:26.000 What, can we lower it to six?

01:07:27.000 They can't do two!

01:07:28.000 What?

01:07:29.000 They can't do two?

01:07:30.000 Yeah, we're going to put them out there with Chris Kyle?

01:07:33.000 What?

01:07:34.000 I know Chris Kyle's a Navy SEAL. I know he's not a Marine.

01:07:36.000 The point is, that was their plan. 0.98

01:07:37.000 Was the, oh crap, we don't want Gloria Aldred to be making a phone call. 0.95

01:07:41.000 We can't even do... 0.98

01:07:42.000 Like, if we set the minimum at one pull-up, people are going to think we're being sexist because it's so embarrassing.

01:07:48.000 Because women are so ill-equipped at doing pull-ups. 1.00

01:07:51.000 Let's just go to the flexed arm hang.

01:07:53.000 By the way, for those of you who remember back when there was still the presidential fitness test, I think it was under Ronald Reagan, and before that, pull-ups were a part of it.

01:08:00.000 The flexed arm hang was basically like being put in the stocks.

01:08:04.000 It was embarrassment.

01:08:05.000 It was for the boys who couldn't do a single pull-up, and so you had basically already failed, and you were trying to restore some kind of honor.

01:08:11.000 Now, listen, that's sad in grade school gym.

01:08:17.000 It shouldn't be happening...

01:08:20.000 When it comes to finding the best of the best for our service members, it's embarrassing for a 12-year-old boy to say, well, you want to join the Marines, you're going to be fighting ISIS where they're burning people alive in cages, you're going to be carrying these packs, you're going to be a part of a squad, so your capabilities actually affect those around you and their lives depend on you, but you can't even do the pull-ups.

01:08:40.000 Let's go with the flexed arm hang.

01:08:43.000 What's next?

01:08:44.000 Well, we can't do push-ups.

01:08:45.000 Let's do lady push-ups. 1.00

01:08:46.000 You know, let's just go away.

01:08:48.000 No more push-ups.

01:08:49.000 Downward-facing dog.

01:08:51.000 Don't ask, don't tell is gone.

01:08:52.000 Downward-facing dog.

01:08:53.000 Some people are going to be happy about it.

01:08:55.000 While you're down there, let's just make a few new friends.

01:08:58.000 No more pull-ups.

01:08:59.000 No more push-ups.

01:09:00.000 Let's just do flag football.

01:09:04.000 And if you don't get the flag, that's okay.

01:09:07.000 At the very least, you'll make the Marine cut.

01:09:09.000 We'll try and usher you into the Special Forces.

01:09:11.000 We think that's the fair thing to do.

01:09:14.000 I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

01:09:16.000 Kevin McInnes after this break.

01:09:17.000 You're about to catch the news just in the nick of time with Nick Nolte.

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01:09:37.000 Tax day. 1.00

01:09:39.000 Son of a bitch to try and bend you over and take the blood, sweat, and tears. 1.00

01:09:49.000 45% of Americans don't pay. 1.00

01:09:53.000 Forty-five percent of Americans don't pay taxes unless you're a f***er a***** don't pay taxes! 1.00

01:10:04.000 That was news in the nick of time with Nick Nolte. 0.98

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01:12:50.000 And now time for Gentle Insults with Dr. Ben.

01:13:02.000 Ben Carson.

01:13:04.000 Well, you see, Mr.

01:13:05.000 Blitzer, I understand why one can maybe feel that way, but I think if you take my comments in context as a neurosurgeon, you'll see that I was looking at it objectively.

01:13:16.000 Just like I believe if someone were to look at your match on Celebrity Jeopardy objectively, It would not be dissimilar to an incident of rape in an alleyway the way that Andy Richter handled you on an intellectual level.

01:13:32.000 And I think the sort of demagoguery can go either way, and I don't think it's conducive toward a better dialogue, considering that in the figurative sense, you were sexually assaulted on Celebrity Jeopardy.

01:13:45.000 This has been Gentle Insults with Dr.

01:13:48.000 Ben Carson.

01:13:49.000 Ben Carson.

01:14:19.000 There are so many ways for you to stay connected.

01:14:21.000 You have no excuse.

01:14:22.000 You have no excuse just like you have no excuse for those roles that are just cascading over your belt buckle.

01:14:29.000 You should be ashamed.

01:14:30.000 Unless you're a lady. 1.00

01:14:30.000 Then you deserve a medal. 1.00

01:14:31.000 Get her a medal.

01:14:32.000 I just realized something.

01:14:58.000 We're back with our next guest, Not Gay Jared. 1.00

01:15:01.000 You need to take part here.

01:15:02.000 Fix this.

01:15:03.000 Take part?

01:15:04.000 Yeah, take part.

01:15:05.000 Not Gay Jared in the video studio is the only one wearing clothing. 0.90

01:15:07.000 Our guest, you can see him at Rebel Media, Anthony Cumia Podcast Network.

01:15:12.000 You can follow him on Twitter at Gavin McGinnis.

01:15:14.000 Gavin McGinnis, thank you for being on with us, sir.

01:15:16.000 Thanks for having me.

01:15:18.000 You know, it's funny saying without your shirt off, we have the exact same body.

01:15:21.000 We're very similar.

01:15:22.000 We both have the same amount of chest hair.

01:15:25.000 I understand now why you are so promiscuous with the bear look.

01:15:30.000 Women love it. 1.00

01:15:30.000 And all the ink you have going on? 1.00

01:15:32.000 You have to.

01:15:33.000 I mean, if you have tattoos, that's the whole reason for it, right?

01:15:35.000 Otherwise people don't get to see it.

01:15:36.000 Okay.

01:15:36.000 We want to lead with this because this is a game we've played before.

01:15:39.000 You haven't played it.

01:15:40.000 And then afterwards we can talk in the next segment.

01:15:42.000 So we're going to play Newest Gender Approach. 1.00

01:15:44.000 This is the game.

01:15:45.000 You know there are hundreds of genders on Tumblr now. 1.00

01:15:49.000 Are you aware of this, that there are hundreds that you didn't know of?

01:15:51.000 I didn't know there was, the last I tuned into this, Facebook had is up to 15.

01:15:57.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:15:58.000 That's ancient news.

01:15:59.000 You have no idea what you're talking about.

01:16:00.000 He's worse than Dana. 0.98

01:16:01.000 He's so uneducated. 0.98

01:16:02.000 He has no idea.

01:16:03.000 He knows nothing.

01:16:05.000 It's embarrassing for the show, because we present him as an educated man, and he just has no clue.

01:16:10.000 Okay, so we're actually going to go through them.

01:16:12.000 We have to guess. 0.99

01:16:13.000 I can't stop staring at your tits, by the way. 1.00

01:16:15.000 Sorry. 0.99

01:16:15.000 Thank you. 0.99

01:16:17.000 We'll do a check after.

01:16:19.000 I'm not sure men should work out that much. 0.99

01:16:21.000 You end up making little breasts. 0.99

01:16:24.000 It's like as bad as being fat. 0.99

01:16:26.000 All right.

01:16:26.000 Okay.

01:16:27.000 Let's move on.

01:16:28.000 It is time to play.

01:16:29.000 Jared, let's hit it.

01:16:31.000 Ready for it.

01:16:31.000 Hitting it.

01:16:32.000 ready for it.

01:16:33.000 We'll be right back.

01:17:01.000 Okay.

01:17:01.000 Quite a lead-in there, Gavin.

01:17:03.000 All right.

01:17:04.000 The game, you need the rules explained.

01:17:05.000 Jared is going to give us an actual gender.

01:17:08.000 It's not actually a pronoun, Gavin.

01:17:09.000 You know, we just needed an extra syllable.

01:17:11.000 It's technically just a noun.

01:17:12.000 But we cheated.

01:17:13.000 So, he's going to give us one, and then you and I have to guess what gender that actually is, and then Not Gay Jared will give us the actual definition.

01:17:21.000 Clear enough?

01:17:22.000 All right.

01:17:22.000 Okay.

01:17:23.000 Let's start with this.

01:17:24.000 Verse 1.

01:17:24.000 Here we go.

01:17:24.000 Not Gay Jared.

01:17:26.000 Love gender. 0.95

01:17:27.000 Okay, since this is Gavin's first time, I'll go.

01:17:30.000 This is somebody who puts no boundaries on their love, and they feel more attached to the idea of love itself than actual physical love.

01:17:38.000 Gavin, what do you think love gender is?

01:17:40.000 I'm going to have to agree with that.

01:17:42.000 They're going to reject the whole notion of gender and say their focus is on love.

01:17:47.000 Which, by the way, why do you get to say that gays and straights and other people and bi don't bi feel that way?

01:17:55.000 So many of these genders seem to already be covered by the five letters of LGBT. There's so much hate speech going on.

01:18:02.000 So much hate speech. 0.99

01:18:03.000 Okay, not gay Jared. 0.98

01:18:04.000 Real answer, real answer.

01:18:07.000 Love gender. 0.95

01:18:07.000 A gender defined by love for other gendered people who are treated badly. 0.95

01:18:11.000 And a love for your own gender as well.

01:18:14.000 What does that even mean?

01:18:15.000 Oh, so you can't love them if they're not treated badly?

01:18:18.000 Can you love someone who's treated well?

01:18:20.000 I guess so.

01:18:22.000 It sounds very scientific, no matter how you cut it.

01:18:25.000 Okay, well, okay, we need the winner.

01:18:27.000 And the contestant with the right answer was...

01:18:30.000 The guy with the beard.

01:18:33.000 I think he means gab.

01:18:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:36.000 Okay.

01:18:36.000 I'll take it.

01:18:37.000 I don't think that's accurate, but I'll take it.

01:18:39.000 Lord Hopper Don gives us...

01:18:40.000 Okay, let's go with another gender. 1.00

01:18:41.000 Hit us with one, Jared.

01:18:42.000 Gender Ale.

01:18:44.000 Gender Ale.

01:18:44.000 All right, Gavin, you lead this one.

01:18:47.000 These are all real, by the way.

01:18:48.000 These are actually taken from Tumblr, right, Jared?

01:18:49.000 Yes.

01:18:50.000 Oh, I believe it.

01:18:50.000 100%.

01:18:51.000 100%.

01:18:51.000 I believe it.

01:18:51.000 Okay.

01:18:52.000 Now, this could go two ways.

01:18:55.000 It could be beer-based, and your gender is based on different home-brewed ales.

01:19:00.000 It's Schwepp's latest hit product.

01:19:02.000 Or it could be a play on the word general.

01:19:07.000 Because they're all saying the same thing.

01:19:08.000 I'm going to go with, it is a play on the word general, and gender ale... 0.52

01:19:13.000 No, I'm going to change my mind mid-description.

01:19:16.000 Gender ale is a gender based on home-brewed beer, pumpkin ale, chocolate ale, that kind of thing. 0.92

01:19:25.000 This guy is a gender ale.

01:19:26.000 Okay, I'm going to go with...

01:19:28.000 I think gender ale is someone who has been starved of true love in the current gender dichotomy. 1.00

01:19:35.000 You're so pathetic. 1.00

01:19:36.000 Okay, just go. 1.00

01:19:36.000 And so... 1.00

01:19:37.000 Lord Zedd.

01:19:39.000 Lord Zed judges you.

01:19:40.000 What's the actual definition?

01:19:42.000 Gender ale.

01:19:43.000 A gender that is hard to describe.

01:19:45.000 Mainly associated with plants, herbs, and liquids. 1.00

01:19:48.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:19:50.000 This is syndicated, Gavin. 1.00

01:19:52.000 You're going to give Jared a whole...

01:19:53.000 That doesn't even...

01:19:54.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:19:57.000 So you're a plant?

01:19:58.000 Is that like other kin where you're a different species?

01:20:01.000 These people think that they're plants?

01:20:03.000 I mean, it would make sense if it's like botany gender or something.

01:20:06.000 All right, well, who was closest at this point?

01:20:08.000 You can't have a definition of a thing until you've figured it out yourself.

01:20:12.000 You can't just say plants and, I don't know, liquids...

01:20:14.000 Yeah, how are they all related?

01:20:16.000 Herb sounds like a great soup, though.

01:20:18.000 A tree or a tincture?

01:20:20.000 In any case...

01:20:21.000 He's not a very loyal dog.

01:20:27.000 He's not a loyal Hopper Zordon.

01:20:29.000 At all.

01:20:30.000 Gavin, you're winning this.

01:20:32.000 Alright, let's go to the next game, yeah.

01:20:36.000 It's fasciagender. 0.97

01:20:37.000 Fasciagender. 0.94

01:20:38.000 Okay, I'll go with this first.

01:20:39.000 I'm going to say it is someone who is fascinated with genders of all types, and their actual preference is that of curiosity.

01:20:47.000 Sounds like something someone in gender studies would say. 1.00

01:20:49.000 Gavin, what say you?

01:20:51.000 I think a fascist gender is a fascist gender, and this is someone who has chosen to be male because they admire Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao. 0.68

01:21:05.000 These are people who have chosen male not because of sex, but because of genocide.

01:21:09.000 Okay.

01:21:10.000 All right, let's hear it.

01:21:12.000 Angry Power Ranger monster.

01:21:14.000 These are reactions.

01:21:15.000 You have way too much control over the soundboard.

01:21:17.000 Give us the winner here.

01:21:18.000 The winner is...

01:21:20.000 Faster gender. 1.00

01:21:21.000 A gender experience largely related to a special interest for autistic people.

01:21:29.000 That's molestation. 0.99

01:21:32.000 That is.

01:21:33.000 Does that seem like molestation, Kevin?

01:21:33.000 I don't know.

01:21:35.000 What does this mean?

01:21:36.000 You think you're autistic and you're not autistic? 1.00

01:21:40.000 You're pretending to be autistic? 0.96

01:21:41.000 Are you pretending to be autistic? 0.72

01:21:43.000 Or you're attracted to autistic people?

01:21:45.000 I think it'd go either way.

01:21:46.000 I don't know.

01:21:47.000 What has autism got to do with gender?

01:21:49.000 I don't understand.

01:21:50.000 There's male and female people with autism.

01:21:53.000 I think they want to claim it as a gender.

01:21:56.000 That's why I think if you're attracted to them, they would consider that a gender.

01:22:00.000 I don't understand this at all.

01:22:02.000 None of these make sense.

01:22:04.000 Now a gender just means any group I'm attracted to?

01:22:07.000 I like brunettes. 1.00

01:22:08.000 Am I like a brun gender?

01:22:10.000 Only if it's redheads, because that is clearly fetish territory. 1.00

01:22:14.000 So it's a way to describe...

01:22:15.000 I think they just take a random fetish and stick gender at the end of the word.

01:22:19.000 That seems to be the trend.

01:22:20.000 Alright, do we have one more, Jared?

01:22:21.000 But let's hear the winner.

01:22:23.000 I won that?

01:22:24.000 Okay, I won that one.

01:22:24.000 You won that one.

01:22:25.000 We have one more.

01:22:26.000 One for you.

01:22:26.000 Okay, one more, and then we'll...

01:22:28.000 Let's do one more.

01:22:29.000 Let's see.

01:22:31.000 Cyclogender.

01:22:32.000 Okay, well, I think I know what this is, but let's have Gavin have a go at it first.

01:22:36.000 Okay, I'm going to guess that this is cyclical.

01:22:39.000 They are the perennials of the gender world, and they are men for six months of the year and women for six months of the year. 0.99

01:22:47.000 Or maybe that doesn't have to define the times.

01:22:49.000 It could be something for four months, it could be three months, it could be two months.

01:22:53.000 The point is that like a menstrual cycle, this person's gender changes every, let's say, couple fortnights.

01:23:00.000 I'm going to say it's somebody who has an unhealthy sexual attraction to the Bill Paxton film, Twister, which is a good film, and I actually would put this under reasonable category of gender.

01:23:11.000 What's the answer, Jared?

01:23:13.000 Cycle of gender. 0.97

01:23:14.000 Gender identity that changes with one's menstrual cycles.

01:23:18.000 We actually got one!

01:23:20.000 This is the first time anyone has gotten any correct at any point.

01:23:20.000 We actually got one.

01:23:25.000 Alright, let's announce the winner.

01:23:27.000 The winner.

01:23:27.000 The winner is...

01:23:32.000 And the winner is...

01:23:34.000 Before I announce...

01:23:37.000 And the winner is...

01:23:39.000 Before I announce, which one of you has any last-minute cheeses?

01:23:44.000 I don't want cheese.

01:23:45.000 There's no cheese for this.

01:23:46.000 Which could affect my final decision.

01:23:47.000 But the winner is Gavin!

01:23:49.000 Alright.

01:23:50.000 I really thought if I had cheese in the physical area...

01:23:54.000 Look at these pipes when you use foreshortening.

01:23:58.000 We got those tattoos.

01:23:59.000 They probably help accentuate it.

01:24:01.000 All right.

01:24:02.000 We have to dance it off.

01:24:03.000 Okay, we have to dance it off.

01:24:04.000 Hold on.

01:24:05.000 Give us a back dance, Gavin, because we're going to play the playoffs.

01:24:08.000 All right, hit it, Jared.

01:24:10.000 Here we go.

01:24:11.000 Gavin, we want your best.

01:24:12.000 I look like Gavin took a tumble there.

01:24:37.000 Did you take a tumble, Gavin?

01:24:39.000 Yeah.

01:24:39.000 I had a stroke.

01:24:42.000 You and Dr.

01:24:43.000 Ben Carson, you went from having your hair slicked back, and then when it came forward, you kind of looked like the Ed Furlong era in American History X? You know what I'm talking about?

01:24:51.000 Yeah, that's the beauty of this.

01:24:52.000 What you do is, if you're going bald in the back, you just keep growing it, and then you get, like, a Razak for perms that African American women use, and you just slick that in, and you can hide all your baldness. 0.98

01:25:03.000 You're not going bald in the back, are you?

01:25:05.000 Yeah, there's some problem areas back there.

01:25:08.000 It really doesn't look that bad.

01:25:10.000 I wouldn't say they're going both.

01:25:13.000 Well, I'm sorry to hear that, Gavin.

01:25:15.000 This whole segment just took a downer.

01:25:19.000 I'm married.

01:25:20.000 I could have AIDS and have no face. 0.89

01:25:22.000 I mean, I could be a burn victim and we're good. 0.94

01:25:24.000 That's Magic Johnson with the AIDS and he's married.

01:25:26.000 And she never even caught it.

01:25:27.000 I don't know how that works.

01:25:28.000 Well, I know how it works.

01:25:29.000 It really isn't that big of a problem.

01:25:30.000 It's actually not real.

01:25:31.000 It's really hard.

01:25:34.000 To give AIDS to somebody, even if you're not necessarily using a condom and it's just one person, your wife, depending on the kind of activities. 0.89

01:25:42.000 You know the real issue with AIDS is if you're a Jehovah's Witness and you go off on a tangent with some weird sect and they tell you that you're cured and you stop taking the medication and you die and you've had hits like Purple Rain and you've had songs like...

01:26:01.000 Stand back.

01:26:02.000 Did you guys hear that Prince died, actually?

01:26:04.000 Good lord, Jared.

01:26:05.000 That's how he started the show.

01:26:07.000 He had no idea that everybody knew this in the world.

01:26:07.000 He said, did you hear this?

01:26:10.000 Wait.

01:26:10.000 I've been by myself all day.

01:26:12.000 Did he have AIDS? Yes.

01:26:15.000 Did he really? 1.00

01:26:16.000 I am connected to the gay underground through my wife, who's a fag hag, and she said that her people told her that he had AIDS. Jehovah's Witnesses don't tell you not to take medication, but I'm sure within that there's like the snake people with Christians who think you can resist snake bites. 1.00

01:26:36.000 I'm sure Jehovah's Witnesses have this.

01:26:38.000 Well, I know that, like, Christian scientists, I know, are a sect that do that, and they don't believe in medicine of any kind.

01:26:44.000 I think he got involved in that kind of stuff.

01:26:46.000 Okay.

01:26:47.000 And they said, you're fine, dude.

01:26:48.000 God loves you.

01:26:49.000 Well, you talked about this before.

01:26:50.000 All your punk rock friends would get cancer, and they'd think they could fix it with creams, and they'd refuse to get, you know, Western medicine treatment, and they were just dropping like flies.

01:26:58.000 Polystyrene from X-ray specs died that way.

01:26:58.000 And you think this is kind of...

01:27:02.000 Um...

01:27:03.000 The girl from the Slits, Ari Up, she also thought that you could just take cream. 1.00

01:27:08.000 And, you know, they got this from Bob Marley.

01:27:10.000 I know.

01:27:12.000 And Bob Marley died with that domicility. 0.99

01:27:16.000 Haile Selassie, highly retarded. 1.00

01:27:21.000 Hold on, let it ride. 1.00

01:27:23.000 Tweet him at Gavin McInnes.

01:27:25.000 Yeah, I agree with you.

01:27:26.000 The Bob Marley thing, I got so much flack.

01:27:27.000 The only great thing about Bob Marley is that people who wear, it's like the greatest douchebag meter, people who wear the Bob Marley shirts.

01:27:35.000 Let's be honest, he barely knew more than a few chords.

01:27:39.000 He wrote a couple catchy songs.

01:27:41.000 He's the kind of guy who, if you actually sat him down and tried to discuss, you know, theology, philosophy, he didn't know what he was talking about. 0.97

01:27:48.000 I don't know how many morons have one love tattooed, and no one is actually able to explain it to me. 0.98

01:27:53.000 What do you mean, one love? 1.00

01:27:55.000 It just means, you know, like, being mellow.

01:27:58.000 Kendrick Lamar just said that.

01:28:00.000 He just said the thing about politics is it all comes down to one word, love.

01:28:03.000 And you go, what are you, me, when I was eight? 0.99

01:28:06.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:28:07.000 Yeah! 0.99

01:28:08.000 All right, we'll keep you on after this break, and we'll talk more about politics of the day, but that is true.

01:28:13.000 I didn't know that about Kendrick Lamar.

01:28:14.000 We'll have to go back and talk about that.

01:28:16.000 One love.

01:28:17.000 Maybe Gavin can show us if he has any tattoos similar.

01:28:19.000 Lotter with Crowder.

01:28:20.000 tuned.

01:28:20.000 He'll be back.

01:28:20.000 Stay tuned.

01:28:21.000 We'll be back.

01:30:10.000 Glad to be back.

01:30:11.000 Gavin McInnes, Anthony Cumia.

01:30:12.000 What's the official website there, Gavin?

01:30:15.000 AnthonyCumia.com.

01:30:17.000 AnthonyCumia.com.

01:30:18.000 Gavin is filling in for Anthony right now.

01:30:19.000 He's hosting.

01:30:20.000 How many hours a day are you hosting?

01:30:22.000 No, no, no.

01:30:22.000 I just did one ep.

01:30:24.000 That was two hours.

01:30:25.000 But I do my normal show an hour and a half a day.

01:30:25.000 Oh, okay.

01:30:27.000 But he's had Jim Norton, Ron Bennington, Colin Quinn, a bunch of mentally ill people. 0.99

01:30:34.000 Like Bobo. 0.99

01:30:34.000 Yes. 0.99

01:30:36.000 The clown? 0.71

01:30:37.000 He got the clown. 0.93

01:30:38.000 No, it was Bozo. 0.84

01:30:39.000 Oh, Bozo.

01:30:41.000 Get it correct.

01:30:43.000 Bozo the Clown is from the 50s.

01:30:45.000 Yeah, I know.

01:30:46.000 A lot of people, I'm surprised that Jared even knows this.

01:30:48.000 So you were talking about this, we were talking during the break.

01:30:50.000 You've been astounded, you know, all AIDS and Christian scientists aside, at the catalog of work from prints. 1.00

01:30:56.000 Yeah, and this sort of takes, sometimes it takes for them to die before you look them up.

01:31:01.000 Like, I was listening to Pogues the other day, and I go, oh, this is some old Irish song that must be 300 years old.

01:31:07.000 Let me look it up.

01:31:07.000 And then when you see what Shane McGowan wrote, you go, holy crap, you wrote about 15 major hits.

01:31:15.000 Yeah.

01:31:15.000 Taylor Swift is the same.

01:31:18.000 And Andrew WK, who you played on the way in.

01:31:21.000 I mean, he didn't have hits like these guys had hits, but he played all his own instruments, wrote all his own songs.

01:31:25.000 Incredible.

01:31:26.000 He had at least five major hits.

01:31:28.000 You know who the other two would really surprise people?

01:31:31.000 Paul Anka.

01:31:32.000 Still.

01:31:33.000 Did Paul Anka die?

01:31:35.000 No, I think he's still alive.

01:31:37.000 Anyway, only a few years ago, the guy still does things where he's not in front of the mic, but you'd be amazed.

01:31:44.000 And Alice Cooper.

01:31:45.000 A lot of people don't realize how many songs...

01:31:47.000 Yeah.

01:31:48.000 How many songs he actually wrote?

01:31:49.000 When you actually look at the hits, and a lot of them were ballads, like Only Women Bleed, You and Me, and people, when you look at it, and you actually look at the best of, you're going, oh my god, I had no idea.

01:31:59.000 And it's not, people thought of this sort of hyper-aggressive thing.

01:32:02.000 He really wasn't.

01:32:03.000 It was actually pretty well-constructed rock and roll.

01:32:06.000 Prince had Nothing Compares to You, which was Sinead's entire career.

01:32:10.000 He had Manic Mondays, which made The Bangles. 0.99

01:32:13.000 He had When You Were Mine, Cyndi Lauper's, one of Cyndi Lauper's biggest hits.

01:32:17.000 Stand Back, Stand Back, Stevie Nicks.

01:32:20.000 It's creepy.

01:32:20.000 Purple Rain, what sounded like your greatest hits album.

01:32:23.000 Right.

01:32:23.000 And then his own career, Little Red Corvette, Controversy, Starfish, and Coffee.

01:32:28.000 What is that?

01:32:29.000 Raspberry Muffins and Jam.

01:32:31.000 Well, and compared to Bob Marley, who had one song.

01:32:35.000 Yeah, you know, there's certain artists, though, like Led Zeppelin, you listen to them 2,000 times and you go, I'm still good.

01:32:42.000 Let's put it on.

01:32:43.000 But with Bob Marley, it's sort of like eggnog.

01:32:45.000 I don't know if you ever just chugged the hell out of eggnog.

01:32:48.000 Right.

01:32:49.000 If you get to a tipping point where you go, I never want to hear the word egg or nog ever again.

01:32:54.000 I just ruined it.

01:32:55.000 And I've listened to a ton.

01:32:56.000 I had a huge Bob Marley phase as a young man, and I cannot listen to one chord from that guy.

01:33:02.000 I'm trying to think who I was.

01:33:02.000 Right.

01:33:03.000 I became that way with the Mars Volta.

01:33:06.000 I listened to them a lot as a kid, and I was like, kind of like Pink Floyd, you can only take so much, we're going to do whatever the hell we want on an album, and it's no longer melodic, where I go, alright, I've lost my grace period here.

01:33:19.000 Yeah, I guess everyone kind of went through a Bob Marley fan, and I was introduced to them.

01:33:22.000 Bob Marley, you have your Jimi Hendrix phase, you have your mod phase.

01:33:25.000 Right.

01:33:26.000 You go through all those, but there's something with Bob Marley where you just don't want to go back.

01:33:30.000 Like, who wants to pull out Legend and put the needle on the vinyl right now?

01:33:36.000 Nobody.

01:33:36.000 It's kind of like Simon and Garfunkel.

01:33:39.000 Simon's like, I have a little diddy-doo.

01:33:43.000 Yeah.

01:33:44.000 It sounds like diarrhea a little bit.

01:33:46.000 It does.

01:33:47.000 I told you, I met Art Garfunkel when he came into tape Arthur, and it was during a phase where we were coached.

01:33:52.000 Do not mention Paul Simon.

01:33:54.000 Yeah.

01:33:54.000 And it would just drive him nuts that we were hearing stories.

01:33:57.000 But okay, so we were talking about this.

01:33:59.000 Curt Schilling is going to be on After You.

01:34:00.000 He got fired from ESPN for the whole transgender thing. 1.00

01:34:02.000 You are Mr.

01:34:04.000 Anti-Social Justice Warrior, right?

01:34:05.000 You can't stand it.

01:34:06.000 One of your biggest videos has been on the transgender thing.

01:34:09.000 You're also a big Trump guy, but you're consistent.

01:34:11.000 You like Cruz.

01:34:12.000 You don't hate Cruz.

01:34:13.000 You like Trump.

01:34:14.000 You like Cruz.

01:34:14.000 Love Cruz.

01:34:15.000 Yes.

01:34:16.000 And exactly.

01:34:17.000 So I don't want to paint you in that box, but...

01:34:19.000 Where are you right now with the Trump condemning North Carolina and really opposing this law on the trans bathroom rights?

01:34:28.000 Is that a screw-up?

01:34:29.000 I am on the Steven Crowder show learning that Donald Trump is against North Carolina's trans...

01:34:36.000 You didn't read this today?

01:34:38.000 No.

01:34:39.000 You caught me.

01:34:40.000 Well, I wasn't trying to catch you.

01:34:42.000 We played the clip.

01:34:44.000 Yeah, he said, you know, I think trans people should be able to use whatever bathroom they want. 0.76

01:34:48.000 It's been a lot of strife business-wise.

01:34:49.000 It was a bad decision.

01:34:51.000 And, you know, they should just leave the laws the way they are.

01:34:54.000 And so my thing is that it's a PC, yeah, spineless, caving.

01:34:58.000 I think you're going to see him do this in the general.

01:35:00.000 And it's also a statist answer.

01:35:01.000 You can't keep the laws the way they were because of Charlotte, right?

01:35:04.000 Because of Charlotte.

01:35:05.000 The reason the state had to step in was because Charlotte was infringing on private businesses' rights. 0.99

01:35:09.000 And then the state said, no, no, no.

01:35:10.000 Let's make it.

01:35:11.000 You use the bathroom you were born into.

01:35:13.000 And Trump came in, and he's against it.

01:35:15.000 And he reiterated, was adamant.

01:35:17.000 And I'm not trying to catch you with it, but that is what happened.

01:35:20.000 Well, you caught me.

01:35:21.000 And I'm embarrassed.

01:35:21.000 I'm embarrassed for my guy.

01:35:23.000 It's like Ann Coulter says, she goes, have you noticed that our guy is insane? 0.90

01:35:29.000 No, she said mental. 0.99

01:35:31.000 Mental. 1.00

01:35:32.000 He's like a crazed teenager. 0.99

01:35:34.000 And he says this stuff when you go, wow. 1.00

01:35:37.000 Are you mental? 1.00

01:35:39.000 You are. 1.00

01:35:41.000 The whole thing, people don't get the whole gay thing.

01:35:44.000 They just think, they accept the left straw man because they don't want to be known as a bad guy, and this is the left's greatest tool.

01:35:51.000 But this has nothing to do with gay. 0.95

01:35:53.000 The fact that they even lump it in has nothing to do with gay.

01:35:56.000 Exactly.

01:35:56.000 It means gay, and you go, okay, I don't want to be that guy.

01:35:59.000 Right. 0.97

01:35:59.000 Jeffrey Dahmer, when they were doing a documentary about his life, he goes, by the way, I only ate black people because they were the nearest ones around me. 0.97

01:36:08.000 I'm not racist.

01:36:09.000 Jeffrey Dahmer, the cannibal, was concerned about being seen as a racist.

01:36:14.000 Right.

01:36:15.000 And you go, you know what?

01:36:16.000 Eating feet that you've boiled in a pot is way worse.

01:36:20.000 But okay.

01:36:21.000 And in this day and age...

01:36:22.000 It's going Dick Morris territory.

01:36:25.000 Sorry, Gavin.

01:36:25.000 Continue.

01:36:27.000 Remotely, conceivably homophobic is the apocalypse.

01:36:31.000 And you go, no, no, no.

01:36:32.000 I just don't want my daughter to be vulnerable to some creep who goes, wait, what's the law?

01:36:38.000 Okay.

01:36:38.000 So I just put a wig on?

01:36:40.000 All right, I'm going to go in.

01:36:41.000 And this has happened.

01:36:41.000 Yeah.

01:36:42.000 This happens in Canada where this has already been legal for a while.

01:36:47.000 Oh, it happened in Seattle.

01:36:47.000 We have these guys going into women's shelters and abusing women.

01:36:51.000 Yeah.

01:36:52.000 No, you're absolutely right.

01:36:53.000 We're not necessarily scared of trans guys.

01:36:54.000 We're scared of guys pretending to be trans guys. 1.00

01:36:57.000 Well, it's not even that.

01:36:57.000 It's just, again, it's infringing on the rights of a vast majority for people who are delusional.

01:37:02.000 Gavin, I didn't want to catch you with it, so we'll go.

01:37:04.000 We'll talk about that another time.

01:37:06.000 AnthonyCumia.com.

01:37:07.000 I'm caught.

01:37:07.000 Too late.

01:37:08.000 Well, no, no, no, no.

01:37:09.000 Gavin is very reasonable, and he always has our support.

01:37:12.000 Gavin McInnes, AnthonyCumia.com.

01:37:13.000 Louder with Crowder.

01:37:14.000 We'll be back.

01:37:15.000 Thank you, Gavin.

01:37:16.000 You're the reigning champion of newest gender pronouns.

01:37:18.000 Need to defend that title.

01:37:19.000 More than a friend.

01:37:19.000 Well, you know, if you want to catch me, I think you have a trust here.

01:37:38.000 here.

01:37:40.000 Don't fall.

01:37:43.000 Oh, I mean, where are you?

01:37:46.000 You wouldn't let me fall. 0.99

01:37:46.000 What the f***? 0.99

01:37:48.000 Stephen Crowder here. 0.99

01:37:49.000 Hey, Jared, what are you doing?

01:37:50.000 I'm just having trouble getting through this book.

01:37:52.000 That's because you can't read.

01:37:53.000 I know!

01:37:54.000 You should have used Freedom Project Academy.

01:37:56.000 Freedom Project Academy.

01:37:56.000 Freedom what?

01:37:58.000 Just go to fpeusa.org.

01:38:00.000 It's a fully accredited private online school.

01:38:02.000 No Common Core and absolutely no government funding whatsoever.

01:38:06.000 All the classes are taught live online, kindergarten through high school, with real teachers based around the country.

01:38:11.000 So through Freedom Project's classical curriculum, students master the basics like math, English, history, science, alongside some more commonly neglected courses like logic.

01:38:19.000 You're not getting that in a lot of schools.

01:38:21.000 Economics, American Studies, and Latin, all of which foster the long-lost art of critical thinking and create leaders for tomorrow.

01:38:26.000 All classes are recorded to be viewed 24-7, and you can get your very own sneak peek of any class or professor at fpeusa.org.

01:38:34.000 Open enrollment runs March through July, but classes always fill up fast.

01:38:38.000 Now, do you have your GED equivalency, Jared?

01:38:40.000 No, is that important?

01:38:41.000 I think so.

01:38:42.000 I mean, you might want to give him a call.

01:38:43.000 That's FreedomProjectAcademy at FPEUSA.org.

01:38:49.000 That's FreedomProjectAcademy.

01:39:09.000 And no, no, no!

01:39:10.000 Keep it off.

01:39:11.000 We're in the third hour.

01:39:12.000 Not that Jared has not put on his shirt.

01:39:15.000 It's hot in here.

01:39:16.000 It is hot.

01:39:18.000 Speaking of which, hot.

01:39:19.000 What's funny, this just happened.

01:39:22.000 John Kasich.

01:39:23.000 The whole nice guy act.

01:39:24.000 I think everyone's catching on.

01:39:25.000 He got so mad he stole the recorder from reporters.

01:39:29.000 Is Gavin still on?

01:39:30.000 Yeah, real quick.

01:39:31.000 Gavin's...

01:39:31.000 He's still there.

01:39:34.000 What's he doing?

01:39:35.000 Oh, no, we're not bringing him back on.

01:39:35.000 He just...

01:39:36.000 He just won't go away.

01:39:37.000 He just won't go away.

01:39:38.000 All right, well, Gavin is still lingering somewhere on the show, for those who are watching the live stream.

01:39:42.000 Of course, listening terrestrially, you do not care. 0.98

01:39:46.000 Not gay, Jared. 1.00

01:39:46.000 This has been a... 1.00

01:39:47.000 You've got to let him go at some point.

01:39:48.000 He just won't stop laughing.

01:39:50.000 My mouse is frozen.

01:39:51.000 His apparently is, too, so we can't hang up the call.

01:39:53.000 You can't hang up the call?

01:39:54.000 So he's just always there.

01:39:55.000 Look at that.

01:39:56.000 Anyways.

01:39:58.000 We need to get this video up.

01:39:58.000 Oh, you know what?

01:39:59.000 That's right.

01:39:59.000 You don't have it.

01:40:00.000 Did you hear about this this week?

01:40:01.000 Hillary pandering to black people? 1.00

01:40:03.000 Again. 0.99

01:40:04.000 It is just so painful.

01:40:04.000 Again.

01:40:06.000 We'll bring that video clip up.

01:40:07.000 For people who haven't been following, this is just so funny this week.

01:40:10.000 You know, Hillary Clinton has done that where she puts on the... 0.99

01:40:11.000 Well, so did Barack Obama, right? 0.76

01:40:12.000 Putting on the fake black voice. 0.66

01:40:14.000 It depends on who he's with. 0.98

01:40:15.000 He's going to talk like this, and then he gets in front of black people, and y'all know what I'm talking about.

01:40:20.000 West Philadelphia, born and raised.

01:40:22.000 What did she... 0.99

01:40:23.000 Barack Obama, did you start singing the Fresh Prince theme?

01:40:25.000 I like DJ Jazzy Jeff.

01:40:28.000 Man's a national treasure.

01:40:31.000 I don't know what that sounds like, Barack Obama.

01:40:33.000 But just the pandering from the left.

01:40:35.000 And Donald Trump, I just hate fakery.

01:40:38.000 I hate it whether it's Hillary Clinton, whether it's Donald Trump, whether it's Barack Obama, whether it's John Kasich.

01:40:43.000 I just can't stand it when people fake things, and it's so clear.

01:40:47.000 And Hillary Clinton, I don't know if you can bring up that video at any point.

01:40:50.000 Yeah, you want to play it?

01:40:51.000 Yeah, okay, let's play this.

01:40:52.000 I just saw it.

01:40:53.000 Is it newsworthy?

01:40:54.000 Not necessarily, but it is everything that's wrong with Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:40:58.000 And a little-known fact, by the way, not a single person at Bucknell or Cal Poly when I was there, where have I been?

01:41:03.000 Cal Poly, Bucknell.

01:41:04.000 I'm trying to think of just the college shows recently.

01:41:06.000 Cal Poly, American University, Bucknell.

01:41:08.000 I'll be at Amherst this next week with Milo Yiannopoulos and Christine Hoff Summers.

01:41:12.000 Not a single young person of the Black Lives Matter, the feminists who show up, who rip down the posters, who protest, not a single one of them likes Hillary Clinton. 0.96

01:41:20.000 They are all Bernie Sanders.

01:41:20.000 No one does.

01:41:22.000 And why?

01:41:23.000 Because of this.

01:41:24.000 Let's roll the clip.

01:41:26.000 Harry with you.

01:41:30.000 Hot sauce.

01:41:31.000 Hot sauce.

01:41:33.000 Oh, that's right.

01:41:36.000 This is the hip-hop redux.

01:41:38.000 So, for those of you who aren't...

01:41:40.000 Get it to the club where she's not.

01:41:45.000 Hot sauce and...

01:41:49.000 Hot sauce!

01:41:50.000 Really?

01:41:51.000 Yeah!

01:41:52.000 This is the problem with whenever you pull the video clip.

01:41:54.000 She's sitting there talking about hot sauce in her bag swag.

01:41:57.000 She's like, I put hot sauce on everything! 0.93

01:41:58.000 I like hot sauce!

01:41:59.000 I like hot sauce!

01:42:01.000 Hot sauce!

01:42:02.000 Can you imagine if I just walked into the BuzzFeed office with their, you know, their no doubt, their black lunch table because they segregate the lunch tables, and I walked in and said, Hey, y'all!

01:42:12.000 Who's got some watermelon? 0.99

01:42:13.000 Vote for me for CEO, bitches! 1.00

01:42:16.000 And I just danced off. 1.00

01:42:17.000 You'd have my vote.

01:42:18.000 I would have your vote.

01:42:19.000 You'd have my vote.

01:42:20.000 That's just so funny.

01:42:21.000 Hot sauce.

01:42:22.000 I'd put it on everything.

01:42:23.000 Really?

01:42:24.000 I'd put it on fried chicken!

01:42:25.000 I'd put it on my chicklins!

01:42:29.000 That's just so fake!

01:42:31.000 Maybe she does like hot sauce. 1.00

01:42:32.000 But then there was a follow-up on Good Morning America.

01:42:35.000 What you didn't see was she was actually grabbing a bottle of ketchup.

01:42:37.000 Was she?

01:42:38.000 I don't know.

01:42:39.000 It's going to be funny.

01:42:40.000 Hot sauce!

01:42:41.000 She's pouring Grey Poupon.

01:42:42.000 Heinz.

01:42:45.000 No, it'd be Heinz, for sure.

01:42:46.000 And what's funny is they followed up and asked her in Good Morning America, so are you a sriracha person, like a tefetio?

01:42:51.000 She's like, it's her answer, just like kind of Donald Trump, I love all the verses.

01:42:54.000 Yeah.

01:42:55.000 She said, I love all of them.

01:42:57.000 I use all of them.

01:42:58.000 If you're going to ask me, what are your favorite hot sauces?

01:43:01.000 Okay, right away, I'll be like, okay, well, sriracha is the ketchup.

01:43:03.000 If I'm using any kind of Asian food pizza, that's the basic one.

01:43:05.000 And then we have Dave's Insanity, if you want to screw with people and get really hot.

01:43:10.000 We have Mad Cow Hot Sauce is one that I really like.

01:43:12.000 I heard of the bomb.

01:43:13.000 The bomb is nuts. 0.99

01:43:14.000 Well, the worst is there's ass-in-the-tub hot sauce, and there's actually one called Ass Reaper. 0.99

01:43:20.000 And it actually has a little cloak and skull on top of the hot sauce bottle. 0.98

01:43:24.000 This is a true story.

01:43:25.000 We used to go to a place called Jack...

01:43:26.000 By the way, my dad wanted me to issue a correction.

01:43:28.000 He set the school record in junior high with 16 pull-ups.

01:43:31.000 16.

01:43:32.000 Which is pretty impressive regardless of your age.

01:43:34.000 So he did send that to me.

01:43:35.000 Sorry, Pops Crowder.

01:43:36.000 We used to go to this place, Jack Astor's.

01:43:38.000 It was a restaurant in Montreal.

01:43:39.000 And it was kind of like a Chili's, you know, flair and very fun.

01:43:42.000 And this French-Canadian guy would always come up and they'd have like hot sauce was a thing.

01:43:45.000 Like, would you like hot sauce?

01:43:47.000 And so he would come up...

01:43:49.000 And he'd always, we'd say, just because we wanted to hear it, we'd say, oh, what do you have?

01:43:53.000 And he'd run down the list.

01:43:54.000 And he's French, and he goes, oh, we have lots of hot sauce.

01:43:57.000 We have Tabasco.

01:43:58.000 We have Tabasco Chipotle.

01:43:59.000 We have Louisiana.

01:44:01.000 We have El Tapatio.

01:44:02.000 We have Hass in the Tub. 0.98

01:44:03.000 And the new one, Hass in Space.

01:44:05.000 It was Hass in the Tub, and it was Hass in Space. 1.00

01:44:07.000 And he would say this with a straight face.

01:44:10.000 These sound like Olsen Twin movies.

01:44:12.000 We got that fantastic hot sauce from the former cop.

01:44:12.000 Yes.

01:44:12.000 What was the one we got?

01:44:15.000 That was the best one.

01:44:17.000 Very hot.

01:44:18.000 It said made by a cop on it.

01:44:19.000 Made by a cop.

01:44:20.000 And it was really good.

01:44:21.000 No preservatives.

01:44:22.000 Anyway, the point is, if you're going to claim you put hot sauce in everything, you should have a couple of answers.

01:44:25.000 Just like if you're going to claim that the Bible is your most important book, you should have a couple of verses.

01:44:30.000 You should just have a couple.

01:44:31.000 Let me just say...

01:44:33.000 John 316.

01:44:35.000 Just throw anything out there.

01:44:36.000 Throwing anything out there, you know?

01:44:38.000 Because that would be the ketchup answer of hot sauces, but go on.

01:44:38.000 Yeah.

01:44:41.000 John 316?

01:44:42.000 John 316.

01:44:43.000 I mean, of the Bible.

01:44:44.000 Of the Bible, yeah.

01:44:45.000 By the way, speaking of which, fakery, Bernie Sanders, I guess maybe he finally released his tax returns.

01:44:50.000 We covered it earlier this week, and he didn't release his tax returns.

01:44:54.000 So...

01:44:55.000 That's it.

01:44:56.000 He released his 2014 return.

01:44:58.000 And he's very cheap.

01:44:59.000 He's very cheap.

01:45:00.000 If you look, of course, leftists do not give at all.

01:45:03.000 And by the way, they lied about it.

01:45:04.000 They said that they released their tax returns to try and leverage this against Hillary Clinton, saying we'll release our tax returns if you release your Wall Street speeches.

01:45:10.000 They didn't.

01:45:11.000 And his wife has been caught in some fraudulent scandals for a while now.

01:45:15.000 And she's a lifelong succubus in the government, working in the education sector and basically supporting her husband's career campaign.

01:45:22.000 I always find that funny with Bernie Sanders.

01:45:24.000 He's anti-establishment.

01:45:25.000 He has not held a private job since Jimmy Carter was president.

01:45:30.000 Maybe Reagan. 0.97

01:45:31.000 If I'm going to say it without a punchline, without exaggerating, he has not held anything other than taxpayer-funded employment.

01:45:39.000 For three decades.

01:45:40.000 He has a little bit of vested interest.

01:45:42.000 Yeah, a little bit of a vested interest.

01:45:44.000 The guy who you want to be president is the guy who does not want the job.

01:45:47.000 Or need it.

01:45:48.000 That's the ideal scenario, is the guy who does not want the job.

01:45:52.000 We were talking about this with Dave Rubin.

01:45:54.000 People said, we need to get money out of politics.

01:45:56.000 Citizens United.

01:45:57.000 That's another point.

01:45:57.000 90% of people who say Citizens United, they have no idea what that was about.

01:46:02.000 Citizens United.

01:46:03.000 It was about citizens who made an anti-Hillary Clinton film and basically were told, you're not going to be able to make this movie.

01:46:08.000 They tried to – this was actual systemic censorship.

01:46:11.000 So it went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said, no, businesses have the right, citizens have the right to unite, and they still maintain their rights to holding a political opinion or casting political donations.

01:46:22.000 That's what it's about.

01:46:23.000 Is there something to fix right now in the political system as far as money?

01:46:25.000 Yes.

01:46:26.000 But to just say overturn Citizens United means that you're giving the government authority to say, well, we can't do Ladderworth Crowder.

01:46:33.000 Ah, ah, you know, we don't want Gavin McGinnis doing his show.

01:46:36.000 Ah, we don't want Milo to have his podcast.

01:46:38.000 Trust me, if you believe in freedom of speech and you understand what Citizens United is, there are flaws in the system.

01:46:44.000 But you need to know, don't just walk out with a few silly buzzwords.

01:46:48.000 That happens a lot.

01:46:49.000 And so you hear Bernie Sanders say it, and Donald Trump says the same thing.

01:46:52.000 We need to stop Citizens United.

01:46:55.000 It really is someone who's entirely uneducated.

01:46:58.000 Tweet me at escrowder what you think about Citizens United, what you think we need to do with money and politics.

01:47:02.000 One thing that nobody ever mentions is big unions.

01:47:05.000 And here's something, too.

01:47:06.000 Big unions, of course, you know, Bernie Sanders, it's a lie.

01:47:08.000 He's taken all kinds of big donations.

01:47:09.000 And, of course, Tons of money from big unions who have far more money than Big Oil, Big Pharma, Koch Brothers.

01:47:14.000 By the way, our Koch Brothers check cash, Jared, so we live to do this show the other day.

01:47:18.000 Oh, that's good.

01:47:18.000 That's good.

01:47:18.000 It'll be on next week then.

01:47:19.000 Still waiting for the fracking money, but it's coming in the mail.

01:47:23.000 People just, they don't acknowledge big, now not only can unions give these huge contributions, look at an example like Goldman Sachs, right?

01:47:30.000 Oh, evil Republican right-wing Wall Street.

01:47:32.000 Actually, no, they give a pretty split amount.

01:47:34.000 Most of these big banks, J.P. Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and on the exact list in front of me, most of them gave more to Obama.

01:47:41.000 All big banks are doing is betting.

01:47:44.000 And then they hedge their bets, but they're betting on a winner.

01:47:46.000 And Barack Obama was a winner, so they bet on Barack Obama.

01:47:48.000 And they hedge it.

01:47:49.000 They might give 55-45.

01:47:50.000 A really extreme right-wing bank might give 60-40. 0.99

01:47:55.000 We can hear you typing, not gay, Jared. 1.00

01:47:56.000 But unions? 0.91

01:47:59.000 99%.

01:47:59.000 99% of their contributions go entirely to Democrats.

01:48:04.000 Now, are we supposed to believe that 99% of people who are in unions are Democrats?

01:48:08.000 You don't find anywhere that kind of a consistency.

01:48:11.000 Probably most of them, but certainly not all of them.

01:48:14.000 It's also a lot easier for unions to force these individual donations through dues.

01:48:20.000 That's something nobody talks about.

01:48:21.000 For example, I've had to be in the actors' union since I was 12.

01:48:24.000 Just to be on Arthur, I had to be in the union.

01:48:26.000 And by the way, this is the way unions set it up.

01:48:28.000 They don't want to protect the worker.

01:48:29.000 They want to protect the unions.

01:48:30.000 I was able to get backdoored in.

01:48:32.000 This is a true story.

01:48:34.000 Total blessing to get my union card.

01:48:36.000 Why?

01:48:36.000 Because I was able, at a young age, I wasn't the first brain on Arthur.

01:48:39.000 I was able to do an impression of the previous kid for a few seasons.

01:48:44.000 And so they were able to justify bringing a non-union member in, me, and each episode counted as a credit.

01:48:51.000 You need to get six credits.

01:48:52.000 To get into the union.

01:48:53.000 And back then I think the rules were one film were a credit, and so you wanted to get into episodic so you could rack up those credits.

01:48:58.000 Because guess what?

01:48:59.000 You can't work unless you're in the union, and you can't be in the union unless you have the credits.

01:49:04.000 So it was a really, really rare occurrence for me to get in there.

01:49:07.000 The actors' unions are designed to protect the actors' unions.

01:49:10.000 I wouldn't be surprised if my annual dues that we have to pay...

01:49:15.000 If some of that has gone to Hillary Clinton or a Bernie fundraiser, they can do that.

01:49:19.000 They can tack on a few extra bucks and you'll never know.

01:49:21.000 So not only do they give giant sums on behalf of the union, but they're able, there's a lot of, if you want to talk corruption, let's talk in Michigan, unions, Jimmy Hoffa, right?

01:49:31.000 This guy was buried.

01:49:34.000 My grandfather-in-law saw Jimmy Hoffa the day he died when he had breakfast.

01:49:37.000 This is a true story.

01:49:38.000 That's crazy.

01:49:39.000 I wish he could tell it, but, you know, he's dead.

01:49:41.000 Right.

01:49:42.000 That's always hard.

01:49:43.000 That's always difficult to do.

01:49:44.000 If we really want him to tell it, we'll just trot him out in the next election, have him vote Hillary Clinton while he's there.

01:49:50.000 Hey, can you tell us a story?

01:49:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:53.000 Democrats get a lot of dead people who vote for them.

01:49:53.000 Hillary Clinton gets it.

01:49:56.000 Yeah.

01:49:56.000 Explains a lot.

01:49:57.000 You didn't understand that.

01:49:58.000 I did.

01:49:58.000 I was really slow.

01:49:59.000 The point is, there's a lot of voter fraud going on with the left.

01:50:01.000 I had a girl in high school.

01:50:02.000 We were talking about that.

01:50:03.000 I don't know who it was who did that in Canada.

01:50:05.000 A famous politician.

01:50:06.000 And it was a scandal that he had dead people voting for him.

01:50:08.000 And I had a girl.

01:50:09.000 I remember her name was Sasha.

01:50:10.000 She said...

01:50:10.000 But, Mr.

01:50:11.000 Holm, how could they vote if they were dead? 1.00

01:50:16.000 And I was the one who got kicked out because I called her a moron. 1.00

01:50:20.000 True story. 0.99

01:50:21.000 Do we have a...

01:50:22.000 Kurt is on...

01:50:22.000 Next segment.

01:50:24.000 Next segment, we're going to have Kurt Schilling, exclusive, talking about the ESPN firing.

01:50:29.000 So, and this whole scandal.

01:50:31.000 Let's stay tuned.

01:50:32.000 Kurt Schilling.

01:50:32.000 Lotter with Crowder.

01:50:33.000 Love you.

01:51:02.000 Now this week's letter comes to me from Russ.

01:51:09.000 From Shaboogaboo, Canada.

01:51:11.000 That's the real place.

01:51:13.000 I know some of you, Lincoln, are trying to make up the place.

01:51:18.000 Shaboogaboo, it's up there in the Gaspé-Z region of the Canada with the sugar and the rain exporters poultice from the coal mines.

01:51:29.000 So Russell's asking me, How long do we have?

01:51:36.000 A minute and twenty.

01:51:38.000 But you said you liked him.

01:51:40.000 Yeah, I mean, I think he's pretty thorough.

01:51:43.000 You think you're going to see him again?

01:51:45.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

01:51:48.000 This is expensive.

01:51:49.000 Yeah, it's an expensive night.

01:51:51.000 That's a lot of those guys.

01:51:54.000 Which commercial are we running right now?

01:51:57.000 You're going to ask him to go out to dinner.

01:52:01.000 I think you should.

01:52:06.000 No, I'd like to...

01:52:07.000 I mean, I can meet with him too at some point.

01:52:11.000 No, no, I mean, this is...

01:52:13.000 I gotta do this for me.

01:52:15.000 Hold on, 20 seconds.

01:52:17.000 Okay, 20 seconds.

01:52:18.000 Hey, make sure that we have those transitions ready for the gender pronouns we put on YouTube.

01:52:24.000 Okay, yeah.

01:52:24.000 I think there's not...

01:52:28.000 This has been your Dating Advice Minute with Bill Cosby.

01:52:32.000 I am so glad to have this guest on.

01:52:57.000 This is an exclusive.

01:52:57.000 It's the first interview that he's done.

01:52:59.000 Not Gay Jared, I will bring him on. 1.00

01:53:00.000 If you could tweet this out, my Twitter just stopped working.

01:53:02.000 Sure.

01:53:02.000 So just handle that while we're doing it.

01:53:05.000 Scandal, top trend all over social media.

01:53:08.000 He works with the Fisher House where they build homes for wounded veterans, and he wanted us to plug it because he's such a nice guy.

01:53:13.000 He could have made it about himself.

01:53:15.000 Kurt Schilling, thank you for being here, sir.

01:53:17.000 Hey, what's up, guys?

01:53:18.000 How are you doing?

01:53:19.000 Well, I'm glad.

01:53:19.000 You sound so chipper.

01:53:21.000 Has this been a tough week, or are you just kind of going with the flow?

01:53:25.000 I think it's been tougher probably on my family.

01:53:29.000 It's a job, not a member of my family.

01:53:35.000 I've got a plan, and the sun came up today.

01:53:41.000 Well, I wish I could say I'm surprised.

01:53:44.000 No.

01:53:44.000 No, we're past that at this point.

01:53:47.000 How long have you worked with ESPN? Forgive me, I'm not a sports guy.

01:53:50.000 Honestly, I've worked on and off with them for, I would assume, close to seven, eight, nine years.

01:53:55.000 Some of the greatest human beings I've ever known I get to work with.

01:53:59.000 The people I worked with were some amazing and good and quality people.

01:54:03.000 That's what I'll miss.

01:54:04.000 I'll miss that part.

01:54:05.000 Now, okay, for people who don't know, explain it to them real quick.

01:54:08.000 We'll do two segments with you here to kind of, but explain it.

01:54:10.000 So you were relieved of your duties at ESPN. Listen, this is not a one-time thing.

01:54:16.000 Initially, this all started out when I tweeted a meme about Muslim extremists, and I compared them to the Nazi party, and basically saying, you know, it's just this quote-unquote 7 to 10 percent of extremists, you know, and then comparing it to the percentage of Nazis, In Germany, the Nazi Party. 0.55

01:54:37.000 And basically saying, you know, how did that work out?

01:54:39.000 And then I said something to the point, when you do the math, it's pretty staggering.

01:54:42.000 Well, I was on a flight to the Little League World Series, and I was immediately told to get on a plane and go home.

01:54:50.000 And they put out a statement, almost to me, disavowing themselves of the tweet.

01:54:56.000 And my first response was, Okay, I don't know.

01:55:01.000 What are you disavowing?

01:55:03.000 And then I quickly realized that everybody that went batshit crazy did so because they took the word extremist out of the post.

01:55:12.000 Right.

01:55:13.000 Which, if you do that, it's an incredibly racist thing, which is why I did it.

01:55:18.000 It was the only word that mattered in the tweet, actually.

01:55:21.000 Well, yeah, they don't care about that.

01:55:24.000 So that was your first offense.

01:55:25.000 No, no, I know.

01:55:25.000 But basically, to me, the first thing that that told me was, my employer is not only, like, throwing you under the bus, but they're calling me a racist.

01:55:33.000 Right.

01:55:34.000 Well, and it's also not, even if you remove extremists, it's not racist.

01:55:37.000 You have a problem with an ideology and a religion.

01:55:39.000 Islam's not a racist.

01:55:40.000 Well, no, I have a problem with extremists.

01:55:41.000 I know Muslims.

01:55:42.000 I mean, my guy worked with some.

01:55:44.000 Sure.

01:55:44.000 I don't, nobody has a problem with people that are, you know, everyday people.

01:55:49.000 Muslims, people have problems with extremists. 0.99

01:55:51.000 I don't care if they were white extremists, black extremists, but they're Muslim extremists. 1.00

01:55:56.000 And their faith tells them to kill anyone not of their faith. 1.00

01:56:00.000 And this is very much like Nazi Germany. 0.95

01:56:02.000 Well, and then Muhammad, the point is, you know, because you can get the territory with Muslims. 0.99

01:56:06.000 I want to get to the more recent one, but Muhammad was a terrorist. 0.95

01:56:09.000 Muhammad himself was a terrorist. 0.83

01:56:10.000 That's how Islam spread around the world through war. 1.00

01:56:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:56:15.000 It's spread by the sword.

01:56:16.000 Right.

01:56:17.000 Speaking of swords...

01:56:18.000 So anyway, yeah, so going forward, then I made a comment about Hillary Clinton, and that comment was basically if she's guilty, or I thought, based on the evidence, she's not like, is she guilty, but she's so guilty she should be under the jail.

01:56:29.000 People took that to mean I wanted her killed, which was wrong, and they got all pissed about that, too.

01:56:33.000 And then they sent out the memo that everybody gets, and it was the same memo we had gotten before, but... 0.53

01:56:39.000 I feel like, and I'd have to look back, but I was called out for the things that I had said while there were things being said on many other shows that were very liberal, very progressive, racist.

01:56:53.000 I mean, Stephen A. Smith does it pretty much daily.

01:56:55.000 Sure.

01:56:55.000 And so, you know, I was kind of curious, but then this last one was...

01:57:00.000 Yeah, so we have this up on the screen now, Gageeer, the meme of...

01:57:03.000 So I responded to a tweet or to a Facebook post that someone else had made.

01:57:08.000 Now, there's a couple things to know about this.

01:57:10.000 I responded to it, and my response was basically, listen, men's rooms were clearly made for guys, people that stand up to go pee, and women's room not. 0.51

01:57:18.000 You know, I used words I might not should use.

01:57:21.000 Anyway, that turned out to be transphobic.

01:57:25.000 Now, the other piece to know about this is I made this comment And shared this post on – and I'm not saying my private Facebook page, but the only people that could see the post on my page and the comment were my friends, quote-unquote friends, people who friended me on Facebook.

01:57:41.000 So it wasn't public.

01:57:43.000 But even then, you know, even if you didn't, because you understand and you are being tactful because you work with ESPN, but even then, suggesting that if you have a penis that you should use the men's room should not be something seen as so hateful and bigoted that you lose your job. 0.99

01:57:57.000 My point was, what the hell was a urinal made for? 0.91

01:58:01.000 I mean, and I was being, I wasn't really being facetious when I said it, but it's like, listen, men's rooms were made for people to go to the bathroom standing up and women's rooms were not. 0.78

01:58:10.000 If they weren't, then there would just be one bathroom everybody would use.

01:58:13.000 Right.

01:58:14.000 But, again, now I became transphobic.

01:58:18.000 Well, that's the new term, right?

01:58:19.000 Because they have the same-sex marriage, and that was pushed through the Supreme Court, and it's over now, and they've accelerated right away. 0.88

01:58:25.000 Like, okay, now everyone's transphobic.

01:58:28.000 And they just tack it on to the gay thing, too, like you see with North Carolina. 0.91

01:58:31.000 It has nothing to do with gay. 0.84

01:58:33.000 Here's the problem.

01:58:34.000 First of all, nothing I said was transphobic, number one.

01:58:39.000 I... When I ran the video company that went so poorly at the end, I had multiple transgender employees who were some of the best people that I worked with.

01:58:52.000 My son, one of my youngest sons, is a member of the LGBT club in high school.

01:58:57.000 He helped run it.

01:58:59.000 Let me ask you something real quick, before we move.

01:59:01.000 Transgender employees, how do they fill out that application? 0.51

01:59:03.000 I don't know. 0.91

01:59:05.000 Never cared.

01:59:06.000 Don't care.

01:59:07.000 But I just want to know if they thought they were pulling the wool over Curtis.

01:59:09.000 No, but here's the thing.

01:59:10.000 Here's the thing.

01:59:11.000 I've come to realize, the reason people get pissed is because we don't make it as big a deal as they want it to be.

01:59:19.000 Right.

01:59:20.000 I don't care.

01:59:21.000 I don't care what you wear.

01:59:22.000 I don't care who you sleep with, as long as it's not my wife. 1.00

01:59:25.000 I don't care what color, what race.

01:59:27.000 I don't care about that stuff.

01:59:28.000 I've never cared about that stuff.

01:59:30.000 And I'm old enough that if I had those ghosts in my closet, they'd be out.

01:59:34.000 Right.

01:59:40.000 No.

01:59:44.000 Yeah, it's definitely not something that's, you know, that's why they try and act as though there's a secret.

01:59:48.000 Remember when they used to say, well, if you use the word socialist, it's code for the N-word for Barack Obama.

01:59:52.000 And now you have Bernie Sanders who just says, I'm a socialist.

01:59:55.000 It's like, no, we don't believe the N-word.

01:59:57.000 We wouldn't believe it.

01:59:58.000 But the code word now, that code word book is like 14,000 pages.

02:00:01.000 Yes, well, we always...

02:00:02.000 Everything's a code word for something racist.

02:00:04.000 Well...

02:00:04.000 It's like, nonetheless, you're a liberal.

02:00:06.000 Yeah, we have our little, it's like our Little Orphan Annie secret decoder pen.

02:00:09.000 We go, oh, okay, socialist, that lines up with the N-word.

02:00:11.000 That's the thing.

02:00:15.000 Here's why.

02:00:15.000 We'll have to go to a break, and I'll get you one in the mail, and we'll have you back to talk about this.

02:00:20.000 Kurt Schilling, nice guy.

02:00:22.000 Man, got the short of the stick.

02:00:24.000 Deserves better.

02:00:24.000 Liderworth Crowder.

02:00:25.000 We'll be back with him.

02:00:25.000 them.

02:00:25.000 Stay tuned.

02:00:26.000 Oh man, I need to drop a dude.

02:00:42.000 So I'm hoping Oh man, I need to drop a deuce.

02:00:53.000 Oh man, I need to drop a deuce.

02:00:58.000 Oh man, I need to drop a deuce.

02:01:02.000 Oh, I hope and pray that it will.

02:01:04.000 But today, I'm still just a bill.

02:01:08.000 I'm still a bill.

02:01:22.000 I'm ticking off the social justice warriors.

02:01:24.000 You should see the amount of hate I get on there. 0.76

02:01:27.000 Far, far, far worse than any Fat Sports Illustrated model or Black Lives Matter charlatan. 1.00

02:01:32.000 So listen, it's free, you get to be entertained, and you can chime in.

02:01:35.000 Also, if you're following me on Twitter, you can send me your tweets, and maybe you'll be lucky enough, and I mean lucky enough, because I have a lot of followers, okay, that they call me the follower machine, to have your tweet to me, or not Gay Jared, included in our rockinest tweet of the week. 0.63

02:01:51.000 So follow me on Twitter, at SCrowder.

02:01:53.000 If not...

02:01:55.000 I don't want to say I have sights on your mother, but...

02:01:58.000 Oh, she's dead? 0.97

02:02:00.000 You're just saying that because I made a mom joke.

02:02:02.000 No, she's really dead? 0.75

02:02:03.000 Well, you kind of walked into it.

02:02:26.000 All right, glad.

02:02:27.000 Sorry I had to do those commercial breaks with our evil corporate overlords, but this man's a pro.

02:02:30.000 He knows the business.

02:02:31.000 Kurt Schilling.

02:02:33.000 I would give his Twitter handle, but it's so hard.

02:02:35.000 It's hard to say.

02:02:37.000 So just type in Kurt Schilling and he shows up.

02:02:38.000 He's verified.

02:02:39.000 Kurt, thanks for staying with us, brother.

02:02:41.000 What's up?

02:02:42.000 Okay, well, so you were talking about a lot of things.

02:02:45.000 The Under the Prison, Hillary Clinton, was that a Breaking Bad reference? 0.95

02:02:48.000 Someone mentioned that on Twitter.

02:02:50.000 Oh, okay.

02:02:51.000 Great program.

02:02:52.000 A little known fact.

02:02:54.000 Overwhelmingly.

02:02:54.000 One of the greatest ever.

02:02:56.000 It is really good.

02:02:56.000 I liked Sons of Anarchy first when it came out, and then it got to the point where I was like, ooh, I don't know how much I can stay with this.

02:03:02.000 Yeah, my wife was into Sons, and then West Wing is still my favorite ever, and then Sons is pretty good, but Breaking Bad was, oh my god.

02:03:10.000 Yeah, it's as good as it gets.

02:03:12.000 And my friend used to actually write back and forth physically with Bryan Cranston.

02:03:16.000 And he was actually thinking about becoming a priest at one point, which is really, really nice.

02:03:20.000 I had no idea he was that talented.

02:03:22.000 Really?

02:03:23.000 Well, the baseball commercial that he did, I don't know if you saw that.

02:03:27.000 He did the one-man baseball show, like a commercial, on MLB Network or something.

02:03:32.000 It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.

02:03:34.000 Well, I knew, you know, Malcolm in the Middle, I thought it was an incredibly underrated program, and largely because of him.

02:03:39.000 If he was in the scene, everyone elevated their game, and comedically, he was just...

02:03:43.000 People don't realize what an influential show Malcolm in the Middle was, moving toward that single-camera sitcom in the United States.

02:03:49.000 I'm always blown away by how good an actor has to be to make you hate their character.

02:03:55.000 This is true.

02:03:57.000 You know, you start We start out thinking, wow, what he's doing is like, come on, how can you be mad at him?

02:04:01.000 He's trying to, and then by the end it's like, What a piece of track.

02:04:05.000 It ended perfect.

02:04:07.000 Speaking of hate... 0.85

02:04:07.000 Except that there are a couple guys I want to die a much more horrible death. 0.85

02:04:11.000 Right, this is true.

02:04:12.000 But not Hillary Clinton, we want to clarify.

02:04:13.000 Speaking of hate, what was the process like where you no longer work at ESPN? How did they let you know?

02:04:21.000 You said you've met good.

02:04:22.000 Did it create some factions?

02:04:25.000 Did you feel thrown under the bus?

02:04:26.000 And then what was the public reaction like?

02:04:27.000 Well, I mean, I did feel...

02:04:29.000 I feel kind of, from a top-level perspective, thrown on the bus for quite a while.

02:04:33.000 That makes me sound like a victim, and I'm not.

02:04:36.000 My biggest issue was that they made me drive two hours yesterday to meet with somebody in HR. They could have just called me.

02:04:44.000 Like, you know, I drove down there and met with a guy in HR. I've done many of those meetings, yes.

02:04:48.000 Well, I've been in some, but I'm like, you know, I'm talking to him, and he goes, well, we're going to have a meeting, and he'll probably get a call later.

02:04:54.000 I'm like...

02:04:55.000 I mean, what's the hold-up?

02:04:55.000 Seriously?

02:04:57.000 You've basically cornered yourself into not having an option.

02:05:02.000 The funny thing is, I want to say this about your meme.

02:05:04.000 Your meme wasn't even anti-trans.

02:05:07.000 For people who didn't, we brought it up earlier.

02:05:08.000 They can go search on Twitter. 0.92

02:05:09.000 What it was, it was saying, if you have a different opinion, you are accused of being a hateful, transphobic bigot.

02:05:16.000 It was a commentary on the social justice warrior left.

02:05:18.000 So my question is, is it basically just an unwritten ESPN policy where you have to have that opinion on the LGBTQAIP silent F, otherwise you're not welcome there?

02:05:28.000 That's not a secret.

02:05:29.000 I mean, again, if you listen to the commentary, look, and I hate to say it like this because I'm not lumping everybody together because, again, I had some amazing people I got to work with.

02:05:38.000 But here's the analogy I used with a couple of the employees there that I was spoken with. 0.98

02:05:43.000 I said, listen, if I'd come out yesterday and said, transgender people are the greatest people in the world, and if you don't agree, you're a son of a bitch, they would have said, listen, please don't use that language on the air. 0.99

02:05:53.000 That would have been it. 0.99

02:05:54.000 That would have been it.

02:05:56.000 Right.

02:05:57.000 But, and listen, the other people screaming about, you know, First Amendment this, and the First Amendment doesn't apply here.

02:06:04.000 This is not about, I have freedom of speech, but when you work for other people, you have consequences if you say things that they don't get along with.

02:06:11.000 But my problem is, I don't believe you can have a double standard.

02:06:16.000 I don't think it's legal to allow one racist opinion and not allow another if you don't agree with it.

02:06:21.000 Right.

02:06:22.000 Well, and also, in your defense, because I know there's nothing that you said was racist at all or anything along those lines.

02:06:28.000 I tried to talk to some people, and I spoke to somebody that is actually transgender, and I said, listen, we were talking about how this all came to be, and I said, you know, to be very clear, if you want more people to be either sympathetic or open to hearing about your cause, then you've got to at least attempt to be the tolerant people you No, and I will say, regardless of anecdotally, if you have trans friends, we've had a lot on the show.

02:06:28.000 And you know what?

02:06:54.000 There were plenty of stops on this logic bus that said we could have pulled the lever.

02:06:57.000 They didn't want gender-neutral bathrooms, a third bathroom. 0.99

02:07:00.000 That's a perfect solution, but they believe that's the movement, the gay stopo, the trans stopo, believe it's discriminatory to have a third bathroom where it's like, okay, this is all bets are off, that way everyone's comfortable. 0.53

02:07:11.000 It has nothing to do with plumbing finances.

02:07:11.000 That wasn't enough.

02:07:13.000 No, no, exactly.

02:07:14.000 One of the questions I've got to ask, though, is...

02:07:17.000 When did people believe that the world was supposed to conform around them?

02:07:23.000 Instead of conforming to the world you live in, or shaping yourself to the world you live in, people now expect the world to shape itself for you.

02:07:31.000 And that's not how it works.

02:07:34.000 Well, that's how they're trying to make it work.

02:07:35.000 Right.

02:07:36.000 Yeah, I mean, let's talk, you know, gay people, 2% of population here.

02:07:39.000 Obviously, there's nothing wrong.

02:07:41.000 Love gay people, have them on the program.

02:07:42.000 Disagree with them.

02:07:43.000 We just had Dave Rubin on this show. 1.00

02:07:44.000 Super gay. 1.00

02:07:45.000 Lovely gentleman. 0.99

02:07:46.000 Then you're getting to trans people.

02:07:48.000 You're a single percentage point of a single percent point, and many of those people aren't at the front lines fighting for this social justice bathroom issue.

02:07:57.000 You are talking such a small percentage of people who have so much control and can get people like you fired simply for disagreeing.

02:08:03.000 That's the issue.

02:08:04.000 Here's the thing.

02:08:05.000 And this is one of the things.

02:08:06.000 This is how we've gotten to where we are.

02:08:09.000 We've allowed the vocal minority to shut up everyone else.

02:08:12.000 Right.

02:08:13.000 And now it drives all of our political agendas.

02:08:16.000 Here's the thing.

02:08:17.000 I don't care.

02:08:19.000 If there was a transgender march down my street to have transgender bathrooms, I wouldn't go out and watch it and I wouldn't care that they were having it. 1.00

02:08:27.000 No.

02:08:27.000 I want homeless veterans to have homes.

02:08:30.000 I want orphaned and abused kids to have homes.

02:08:32.000 I want the homeless problem in this country to solve.

02:08:34.000 There are so many other things that are actually legitimately scary and dangerous, like, I don't know, ISIS.

02:08:40.000 By the way, little known fact, ISIS, not huge supporters of the LGBTQ community.

02:08:47.000 I mean, Bruce Springsteen might be, you know, wow, you're awesome.

02:08:51.000 You boycott North Carolina.

02:08:52.000 So I'm assuming all your stops in Italy are now canceled because same-sex marriage is illegal in Italy.

02:08:57.000 Right, or Bryan Adams was in Egypt performing.

02:08:59.000 Right, no, in the Middle East, you get beheaded or executed or thrown off a roof from 30 stories if you're gay, if you're a woman who loses your scarf, or if you're not a member of the faith. 0.91

02:09:14.000 Well, you know what? 0.91

02:09:15.000 That might be more convenient for trans men because all they need to do in those countries is toss on the headdress and no one's watching it. 0.99

02:09:20.000 Again, people joke about it, but the problem is that people pick and choose.

02:09:30.000 Right, exactly what they want.

02:09:32.000 And like you said, the problem is, listen, it's not only minorities, obviously, that's why we're a representative of the Republican, not a democracy.

02:09:37.000 But like, Donald Trump came out today, we were really disappointed.

02:09:39.000 He said, oh, they should leave the laws the way they are.

02:09:41.000 Well, we're at a point you can't because Charlotte decided to step in. 0.99

02:09:44.000 And so the state had to say, no, no, no, no, you can't do this.

02:09:47.000 Use the bathroom you were born with.

02:09:49.000 You can't come in and infringe people's rights.

02:09:51.000 And that was the other thing I said.

02:09:53.000 I'll tell you, this was the media to a tee today.

02:09:56.000 I saw... 0.99

02:09:56.000 I was tagged in a post that somebody posted from a transgender website that said something to the effect of, Curtis Schilling post horrible transphobic meme calls transgender people pathetic. 0.99

02:10:08.000 And I'm like, wow. 0.99

02:10:10.000 Wow, you never did that.

02:10:13.000 Did I? And at the bottom of my post, at the bottom of the response, I had said that we need our government to step in and make these laws now is pathetic. 0.98

02:10:21.000 Right. 0.99

02:10:22.000 Well, I do think that if you need to be cradled in a safe space because you can't use a ladies' room when you have a pecker, I would say that person is pathetic. 1.00

02:10:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:10:31.000 And I don't think all trans people are that weak. 0.90

02:10:32.000 Here's the thing. 1.00

02:10:35.000 Everybody's talking about, oh my God, people are going to get raped in women's bathrooms. 0.99

02:10:38.000 The issue is not this. 0.95

02:10:39.000 No, it's not.

02:10:40.000 What's going to happen, and you can assure, it's already happened, but it's going to happen one time in a big way.

02:10:46.000 Somebody is going to get molested in a women's room, and it's going to be a child. 0.99

02:10:49.000 And some scumbag pervert child molester is going to go to jail. 1.00

02:10:53.000 And the transgender community is going to be in a place they never, ever want it to be. 1.00

02:10:58.000 Because they're going to have to be defending their right to use a bathroom, which opens up the door for... 0.60

02:11:04.000 You know what?

02:11:05.000 This is just like...

02:11:06.000 The whole, like, anti-police thing, right?

02:11:10.000 Most violent year ever in history for Baltimore when they started vilifying cops.

02:11:10.000 Right.

02:11:14.000 There are amazing men.

02:11:15.000 There are amazing men and women who put their lives in line.

02:11:17.000 They are bad eggs, and they should suffer the worst penalty ever.

02:11:21.000 Right. 0.96

02:11:21.000 But that's not representative of the force. 0.96

02:11:23.000 Like, pedophiles are representative of transgenders, and transgenders are pedophiles. 1.00

02:11:27.000 But there are people that will manipulate this law to their advantage, and someone is going to get hurt. 0.98

02:11:33.000 Right.

02:11:34.000 I think you're absolutely right.

02:11:36.000 And I don't even think that's necessary.

02:11:37.000 What if it doesn't happen?

02:11:39.000 It doesn't even matter because, again, most women are immensely uncomfortable with it, as they should be. 0.99

02:11:45.000 They go, what about men?

02:11:46.000 Yeah, you and I and Nakajid are probably not uncomfortable in a men's room.

02:11:49.000 Because women aren't naturally sexually predatory the way men are. 0.90

02:11:49.000 Why? 0.90

02:11:52.000 It's the way we're wired.

02:11:54.000 Every single boy's fantasy is to go into the girls' room.

02:11:56.000 Here's what I've got to ask you, though.

02:11:58.000 Why tell us?

02:12:00.000 I don't care! 1.00

02:12:01.000 I don't give a shit. 1.00

02:12:03.000 If you come into the men's room and you're standing there taking a piss, I don't care. 1.00

02:12:06.000 If you go into the stall, why do I have to know you're not a born man? 0.96

02:12:11.000 I don't care.

02:12:12.000 Well, the issue is a lot of women did care and felt uncomfortable, and so cities enacted laws. 0.96

02:12:18.000 Absolutely.

02:12:18.000 But here's the other piece.

02:12:20.000 Think about the world two years ago that we lived in, right?

02:12:24.000 If Bruce Jenner had happened and no one had ever known, today would the world be any different?

02:12:32.000 ESPN would have given the courage award to somebody that should have gotten it.

02:12:38.000 Okay, you were there.

02:12:40.000 What was the sentiment there?

02:12:41.000 We did the whole fake Olympics with Caitlyn Jenner winning the commentary.

02:12:44.000 Caitlyn Jenner, if we believe this is a new person, is separate from Bruce, Caitlyn Jenner has precisely as many athletic accomplishments as not Gay Jared. 0.71

02:12:53.000 Zero.

02:12:55.000 And an award happened. 0.82

02:12:56.000 But behind the scenes at ESPN, where even the far left was like, yeah, okay, this is kind of ridiculous.

02:13:02.000 It was taboo to speak of in any way but a positive, so no one spoke about it.

02:13:08.000 Except you.

02:13:11.000 Who cares?

02:13:13.000 Honestly, who cares?

02:13:14.000 And why would you care?

02:13:15.000 If you care, that's fine.

02:13:16.000 You can go have your discussion.

02:13:18.000 And the other piece I tried to make these people understand that I was speaking with, an opinion and a belief are two very different things.

02:13:24.000 This is an opinion.

02:13:25.000 My opinion's malleable.

02:13:27.000 All of my opinions are.

02:13:29.000 Most people's are.

02:13:30.000 My belief...

02:13:31.000 That Jesus was the Son of God and my family and those things, those are unshakable.

02:13:36.000 Right.

02:13:37.000 Well, right away, you're given far less leeway the second you make that.

02:13:40.000 Right.

02:13:41.000 No, right.

02:13:41.000 But if I'm a racist, that's a fundamental belief of mine that one race is superior to another.

02:13:47.000 If I'm homophobic, my belief, my foundational belief is that gay men aren't worthy of the same life I'm worthy of. 0.88

02:13:47.000 Right. 0.88

02:13:54.000 None of those things are true.

02:13:56.000 But think about this.

02:13:59.000 And this was, to me, the thing that really got to me.

02:14:03.000 When people are calling you things that you could not even come close to being, you know somewhere the wiring screwed up.

02:14:10.000 No, it comes from top down.

02:14:12.000 At that point, it is collusion.

02:14:14.000 No, you're right.

02:14:14.000 No, I agree.

02:14:14.000 But listen, if I said the N-word in my life, my dad would come out of the grave and pull my heart through my chest and kill me.

02:14:22.000 Right.

02:14:24.000 I've never in my life judged somebody on anything other than how they treated me. 0.87

02:14:27.000 And I've had preconceived notions of people like, you know, that guy's a douche.

02:14:31.000 And then I end up playing with a guy and he's like the greatest teammate I've ever had.

02:14:33.000 I mean, I've learned that enough times to know.

02:14:35.000 Right.

02:14:36.000 But when people are calling you a racist and you're...

02:14:38.000 Well, what's been the public reaction is my question, because we can get into the back room, and I appreciate you letting us in on that.

02:14:45.000 Listen, I expected it, when the Muslim thing came out, it was the same thing. 1.00

02:14:49.000 Like, they knee-jerk reacted, and then about two days later, everybody...

02:14:53.000 I'm going in circles, but this is like 9-11, right? 1.00

02:14:57.000 In 9-11, everybody was, this country's the greatest, let's go kick everybody's ass. 0.99

02:15:01.000 And then the really loud folks, they die out in about six months. 1.00

02:15:01.000 Right. 1.00

02:15:05.000 Right.

02:15:06.000 This is no different.

02:15:07.000 All these people screaming and yelling in 48 hours are going to be moving on to something else, because I got fired and they're all happy.

02:15:12.000 Well, I think this, though, I think you had...

02:15:15.000 I think you got more support than ESPN expected.

02:15:19.000 Oh, no, absolutely.

02:15:20.000 I think they're pushing way too hard right now, too fast, and this may have a rebound effect.

02:15:25.000 Because if you look at social media, it wasn't even split.

02:15:28.000 A majority of people thought that this was pretty ridiculous, and I think it shows how Adam touched ESPN. Even though a majority of people who did...

02:15:36.000 Didn't agree with the thing I posted. 0.95

02:15:38.000 We're saying, like, this is ridiculous. 0.89

02:15:40.000 We have to go, Mr. 0.88

02:15:41.000 Schilling.

02:15:42.000 And I know you're going to start going on this tour, and everyone's going to want a piece of you.

02:15:42.000 Thank you so much.

02:15:45.000 If there's anything we can do, let us know.

02:15:47.000 But thank you for stopping by.

02:15:48.000 And, man, I appreciate that you're willing to stand in the pocket.

02:15:51.000 I appreciate it.

02:15:52.000 I'm going to be on Bright Bar tomorrow morning, so that should be enjoyable.

02:15:55.000 That should be a lot of fun.

02:15:56.000 Kurt Schilling, thank you, sir.

02:15:58.000 Lotter with Crowder.

02:15:58.000 We must go.

02:15:59.000 Stay tuned as we wrap it up.

02:16:00.000 Stay tuned as we wrap it up.

02:16:18.000 Is that Doritos now?

02:16:19.000 No.

02:16:20.000 Well, I mean, yeah, but the Cool Ranch.

02:16:21.000 Seriously, though.

02:16:23.000 I'm concerned about you.

02:16:24.000 There's no way you can be healthy.

02:16:26.000 You're coughing.

02:16:26.000 You're sick all the time.

02:16:28.000 Don't worry about it.

02:16:29.000 I took one of those things.

02:16:31.000 You took a vitamin?

02:16:32.000 A vitamin doesn't make up for everything.

02:16:33.000 I took one of those earlier today, just this morning.

02:16:37.000 A vitamin doesn't...

02:16:38.000 It's to supplement.

02:16:39.000 No, no, no, no.

02:16:41.000 M&M. Stay tuned for more of Not Gay Jared's Diet Happens. 0.97

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02:18:04.000 And that sound, that sound, that original track means that it is the end that sound, that original track means that it is the end to our I'm Really glad, all the guests who came on, incredibly grateful, Mr.

02:18:29.000 Kurt Schilling.

02:18:30.000 The first program he did, I have no idea.

02:18:32.000 Listen, we don't deserve that.

02:18:34.000 We really don't.

02:18:35.000 Don't, so we did nothing to...

02:18:36.000 We have no business getting these exclusive scoops.

02:18:38.000 Every now and then we just have people who either follow or are fans, and I don't know, we have the ability to get to it first.

02:18:47.000 Apparently, I guess there was some kind of a live mic thing, Jared, that people were talking about, so fix that.

02:18:51.000 This is the last segment here, so I wanted to sort of follow on what Kurt was talking about.

02:18:56.000 Because I know he has to be careful, and not that he pulls any punches, but there are legal ramifications, right, if he says something.

02:19:02.000 Kind of like when Ben Shapiro was on, or Michelle Field's situation.

02:19:06.000 Anything you use in public can be used legally.

02:19:09.000 And that's why it's important, for example, when you have politicians who misuse the terms where they consider them interchangeable, like battery and assault.

02:19:17.000 If you use the wrong one, or someone committed a misdemeanor and you say felony, well, now you're on the hook for slander.

02:19:23.000 So I wanted to give...

02:19:24.000 Or if you come on a program, you're really nice and respectable, then you play spot the trainee afterwards.

02:19:29.000 You have nothing to do with it, but...

02:19:30.000 It happened.

02:19:31.000 It doesn't matter.

02:19:31.000 It happened.

02:19:32.000 It still happened.

02:19:33.000 And then they're going to show the gif of me and Gavin, you know, touching the areolas.

02:19:38.000 And then they're like, are you running for president, sir?

02:19:40.000 And this was the program on which you paid a visit.

02:19:43.000 So I think next week we might actually have libertarian candidate Austin Peterson, if I'm correct.

02:19:48.000 And then there was someone else who we were talking about.

02:19:50.000 We're talking, talking, talking, talking.

02:19:52.000 Who was it?

02:19:53.000 Oh, it might be Nick DiPaolo, I think, next week.

02:19:59.000 We're not entirely sure, but Austin Peterson with a few other guests coming on.

02:20:02.000 So we're always grateful.

02:20:03.000 Listen, the common thread here with what Kurt was talking about...

02:20:09.000 He was quieted.

02:20:10.000 He was silenced. 0.99

02:20:11.000 He was fired for being transphobic, racist, homophobic. 0.94

02:20:16.000 That's what happens on campus. 0.97

02:20:17.000 The more I perform on campus, and I hate it.

02:20:19.000 Honestly, I'm looking forward to this being over the tours.

02:20:22.000 We're going to do a few more dates here.

02:20:23.000 Go to louderwithcrowder.com to see them.

02:20:26.000 We'll take it off in summer and then fall. 0.99

02:20:28.000 Just colleges really suck. 0.99

02:20:30.000 They really suck now because you show up and people protest. 0.99

02:20:33.000 And for conservative provocateurs, it's fun because you videotape it and they show up and they're mad. 0.95

02:20:37.000 When you just want to do stand-up, it gets to the point where it's almost impossible, you know, and it's really no longer fun to do.

02:20:43.000 But, again, when I spoke with these kids, and it's the same exact thing that's happening with Curt Schilling, it's the same thing that's happened on campus with a guy being expelled for not raping somebody, it's the same thing that happened with Whole Foods, all of these tactics and techniques, they were used entirely from the left.

02:20:59.000 Now, oh, you're just using the left-right divide, man!

02:21:02.000 Yes.

02:21:03.000 And I don't shy away from it, and it's entirely appropriate.

02:21:06.000 You do not see this coming from conservatives.

02:21:08.000 You don't see this coming from the right.

02:21:11.000 Certainly not in record numbers this way.

02:21:13.000 If they get mad at something that someone said, they don't try and get that person to lose their job.

02:21:19.000 Maybe now with some factions of the right wing, I don't know, maybe it happens, but certainly not conservatives who I've worked with my entire life.

02:21:25.000 On campus, they try and ban speakers.

02:21:28.000 Racist, sexist, homophobic, right?

02:21:30.000 So what's their solution? 0.98

02:21:31.000 Don't let them speak.

02:21:33.000 Curt Schilling put out a meme on his private Facebook page where he basically thinks, hey, if you were born a man, specifically if you don't go through with the surgery, you're probably still a man.

02:21:41.000 And the meme was pointing out this idea that if you say that, you're hateful and bigoted.

02:21:45.000 He didn't even necessarily say that.

02:21:47.000 The meme was about even saying that it's considered hateful and bigoted.

02:21:50.000 And what do they do?

02:21:51.000 They said, putting out that meme is hateful and bigoted.

02:21:53.000 Just set him right up.

02:21:54.000 So what's the solution?

02:21:57.000 Fire him. 0.82

02:21:58.000 Make sure he doesn't get to speak.

02:22:00.000 Now, every time I go to college campus, these speaking engagements, they're open, and liberals come in.

02:22:05.000 You know what conservatives on campus never do?

02:22:08.000 They never try and ban people.

02:22:10.000 It doesn't happen.

02:22:12.000 You don't see it with college Republicans.

02:22:14.000 You don't see them wanting to erase chalk and demanding safe spaces.

02:22:17.000 You may think they're wrong.

02:22:18.000 Again, left and right men, yes, left and right.

02:22:21.000 The right does not try to constantly, their go-to is not silence voices of opposition by defaming the person before the argument even begins.

02:22:29.000 You counter bad speech with more speech.

02:22:32.000 Dave Rubin, we were talking about, he was on our program, I was on his program this week.

02:22:35.000 He's never received more hate mail.

02:22:38.000 I like Dave Rubin.

02:22:40.000 We've become friends, and we disagree on nearly everything.

02:22:44.000 But we're willing to have that idea.

02:22:45.000 Guess what?

02:22:46.000 No one on this program, no one who watches it, ever complains when we have Dave Rubin on.

02:22:51.000 It doesn't happen.

02:22:52.000 You'll see people say, oh, you know, they might make a joke, but say, he's so far left, he's wrong about everything, he has his head up his rear.

02:22:58.000 I'm glad he comes on the show.

02:23:01.000 Same thing when we have leftists on, or people who lean more to the left, like Sargon or D.L. Hughley.

02:23:06.000 I can't think of anyone we've had on that.

02:23:07.000 People had just some visceral, nasty reactions.

02:23:10.000 Doesn't happen.

02:23:10.000 Went up and flocked their page and spammed them with hate.

02:23:13.000 Online, people really hate the Young Turks, but that's because they do that... 1.00

02:23:16.000 With us, all they do is paint everyone as racist, so people are tired of it.

02:23:20.000 But you have to look at this, and I know it's easy to be a fence-sitter and say, well, you know, it's not left to right people.

02:23:26.000 Yes, everyone is an individual, but if you look at what's happening on campus, if you look at what's happening in the media, if you look at what's happening in the government, there's consistently one side that always, if they can do it first, if they can drop this nuke first, they will.

02:23:40.000 Silence it before the dialogue begins.

02:23:42.000 It's why they try and ban me on campus.

02:23:45.000 It's why, well, I didn't do it with it.

02:23:46.000 We have bomb threats at Cal Poly.

02:23:49.000 Now, I don't go out there and put it on a website and make a big deal out of it.

02:23:53.000 Why?

02:23:53.000 Because I just want to do stand-up, and then after the fact, we can talk about it.

02:23:56.000 You know, a lot of people think this press is good press, but when you've actually had security problems talking about the Islam, we actually underplay it.

02:24:06.000 Conservatives don't do that.

02:24:09.000 So yeah, it does matter to see the world.

02:24:11.000 Isms are okay. 0.98

02:24:13.000 I don't believe in any ideology, man.

02:24:15.000 It's always fluid.

02:24:16.000 Well, you can also be blinded by that.

02:24:19.000 Because at a certain point, if you refuse to notice consistencies, there is nothing different, nothing different about what's happening with Curt Schilling at ESPN. And what happened at Whole Foods or on campus, like Bucknell where I was.

02:24:33.000 It's the exact same thing.

02:24:34.000 It is the tactic of the left.

02:24:36.000 And here's what I will say.

02:24:37.000 You should listen to people.

02:24:38.000 You should always have a dialogue if you can.

02:24:40.000 But if someone immediately goes to a racist card or tells you that someone is a racist or a transphobe or a homophobe, their opinion should immediately be met with skepticism.

02:24:48.000 And the first thing you need to do is stop them.

02:24:51.000 Whoa, you say racist.

02:24:53.000 Justify that.

02:24:54.000 Whoa, hold on. 0.99

02:24:54.000 You say gay. 0.99

02:24:56.000 Rationalize it. 0.69

02:24:56.000 Because I tell you what. 0.69

02:24:58.000 When I sit there and I do these shows on campus for two hours, some have been two and a half, they're never able to.

02:25:04.000 They're never able to rationalize it.

02:25:06.000 They're never able to make that position tenable.

02:25:08.000 Just like they won't against Curt Schilling. 0.51

02:25:09.000 They'll just say he's a racist or a transphobe.

02:25:12.000 If someone says that, you should immediately put them on your radar of someone you should be skeptical.

02:25:17.000 Lotter with Crowder.

02:25:17.000 See you next week.

Louder with Crowder - April 21, 2016

#71 WIENERS EVERYWHERE! Curt Schilling, Dave Rubin, Gavin McInnes | Louder With Crowder

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