Louder with Crowder - #72 UMASS AND TRIGGLYPUFF! Austin Petersen, Dean Cain, and Andrew Klavan | Louder With Crowder

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00:01:54.000 Big show today.

00:01:56.000 We have Austin Peterson running for libertarian candidate, running for office, presidential office of the United States.

00:02:02.000 Dean Cain, Superman.

00:02:05.000 Dean Cain.

00:02:07.000 And Andrew Klavan.

00:02:08.000 Andrew Klavan.

00:02:09.000 A lot of news this week, of course.

00:02:11.000 Carly Fiorina announced his VP pick, so we'll get into that.

00:02:14.000 We're going to get into all the news, but...

00:02:17.000 Okay.

00:02:19.000 Let's start this off here.

00:02:21.000 Every now and then...

00:02:24.000 I make the news.

00:02:26.000 That happens.

00:02:27.000 You know, usually we comment on the news.

00:02:29.000 I write jokes about the news.

00:02:31.000 And every now and then, I am in the news.

00:02:34.000 And that is what happened this week for people.

00:02:38.000 I don't want...

00:02:38.000 You know, listen, let's just drop the whole facade of false humility, okay?

00:02:43.000 The rant went viral.

00:02:45.000 Over a million plays.

00:02:47.000 I was at University of Massachusetts Amherst.

00:02:51.000 With Milo Yiannopoulos and Christina Hoff Summers to talk about political correctness.

00:02:56.000 They were going to lecture, I was going to do some stand-up, and then we were going to do a Q&A. So this whole thing went viral.

00:03:04.000 A lot of people haven't watched the whole hour and a half panel.

00:03:07.000 They just saw me go off, kind of go nuclear for about four minutes.

00:03:12.000 So I want to give you some behind-the-scenes kind of footage.

00:03:15.000 I was pretty tense before this event because there were a lot of threats.

00:03:21.000 You said, don't talk to me.

00:03:21.000 I need to be all consumed, was your word.

00:03:24.000 I don't remember that specifically.

00:03:26.000 You're too consumed to remember that.

00:03:29.000 That's what happens.

00:03:29.000 You're going into an ideological war zone.

00:03:31.000 We had a lot of threats.

00:03:32.000 People saying literal blood will be spilled.

00:03:35.000 That's what you saw on Facebook.

00:03:36.000 And whatever people saw publicly, there was a lot more behind the scenes going on.

00:03:40.000 You may not see.

00:03:41.000 There was a lot of security going on.

00:03:43.000 So there's that component.

00:03:44.000 And then there's a component of just wanting to get your point across.

00:03:47.000 So, the rant happens.

00:03:48.000 It went viral.

00:03:49.000 But I want to clarify a few things.

00:03:51.000 I mean, the tension was you could cut it with a knife.

00:03:54.000 First off, the rant, a lot of people thought that my rant was falsely aimed at who has now become infamously tagged as Trigglypuff.

00:04:07.000 For those of you who missed her, this is Trigglypuff.

00:04:10.000 Take your hate, I'm a devil!

00:04:16.000 And energy lost.

00:04:20.000 God.

00:04:22.000 Talk about perpetuating the original stereotype of no stamina.

00:04:25.000 I was not yelling the androgynous amoeba.

00:04:28.000 The person I was singling out was not Trigglypuff.

00:04:31.000 However, what you didn't see in the rant was when we came out, very first thing when they introduced us, before we did our opening remarks, they introduced us, we come on stage.

00:04:39.000 I did give Trigley Puff, I came out, first thing I see is this giant mass and a couple of friends, I think, giving me the finger as soon as I walk out before I've even said anything.

00:04:52.000 So, I did give Trigley Puff this salute.

00:04:56.000 Next, conservative comedian and host of the popular podcast Louder with Crowder, Stephen Crowder.

00:05:01.000 Now, I've never done that before.

00:05:16.000 It's not very Christian of me.

00:05:18.000 Not Gay Jared was watching with his friend, and he said, oh, yeah, you haven't seen Steven do stand-up.

00:05:24.000 And then you said, I came out.

00:05:25.000 I came out like, this is not Steven's stand-up.

00:05:28.000 This is Steven pissed.

00:05:29.000 This is not Steven's stand-up.

00:05:31.000 Did you see that, though?

00:05:32.000 Did you see what happened with that?

00:05:33.000 What happened?

00:05:33.000 Did you see that?

00:05:34.000 You didn't catch it.

00:05:35.000 If you watch it this way, you can catch it a little better.

00:05:39.000 Turn down for what?

00:05:41.000 Okay.

00:05:44.000 Well played.

00:05:45.000 Thank you.

00:05:46.000 In case someone missed it.

00:05:46.000 I appreciate it.

00:05:47.000 We've got to be clipping along, because I have all these clips here to show people.

00:05:50.000 For the first time, I actually have a show prep.

00:05:52.000 You're hearing this shuffling.

00:05:53.000 I'm doing like a little Rush Limbaugh where I shuffle papers, but I'm not really using them.

00:05:56.000 I actually need this, because there was so much that happened that night.

00:05:59.000 It was like a two-hour event.

00:06:00.000 Well, hurry up.

00:06:00.000 I need a Kleenex.

00:06:01.000 So...

00:06:01.000 Okay.

00:06:03.000 I did give Trigglypuff the finger.

00:06:04.000 However, the person I was specifically addressing, the androgynous little amoeba who was looking to get laid, was actually, and this is, you'll see him here, he asked a question later on, it was this young gentleman for clarity. 0.99

00:06:17.000 Yeah, I wanted to ask if you guys were aware of the things that you said before about Islam, and I wonder if you guys are aware of of how that contributes to acts of violence against Muslim people and Islamophobia, but you kind of already answered it, so let me just say, fuck Trump and Black Lives Matter. 0.99

00:06:36.000 And, sir, I have a question! 0.98

00:06:38.000 Why do you feel compelled to defend an ideology that would throw you off a roof for looking like Rachel Maddow?

00:06:45.000 Oh, and by...

00:06:47.000 It's true.

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00:06:50.000 So that was the guy I was going off on, because he was really, he had it in for me specifically, because of the, some people were there for Milo, they were mad about the gay stuff, even though he's gay, and then some people were there specifically angry about my Islam stuff, if you look at the Q&A. Well, that guy, he just, it was like a sketch.

00:07:05.000 I know, we couldn't write a sketch.

00:07:06.000 I couldn't write a sketch.

00:07:08.000 F-Total Drop, Black Lives Matter. 1.00

00:07:10.000 Woo! 0.99

00:07:10.000 I adore all the rules! 0.99

00:07:11.000 Woo! 0.99

00:07:13.000 So, this was the guy who I was going off on.

00:07:16.000 Now, here's something that's really important.

00:07:17.000 People don't understand freedom of speech.

00:07:19.000 These kids think genuinely, well, we're exercising our freedom of speech.

00:07:22.000 No, they're not.

00:07:22.000 They are not exercising their freedom of speech.

00:07:24.000 They continually yelled out, you know, when the moderator would say, hey, these are our guests.

00:07:29.000 They're not our guests!

00:07:31.000 They're not our guests!

00:07:32.000 Get back off the stage! 0.99

00:07:33.000 Which is ironic, because these kids don't even believe that they should be paying for school at all, but they believe that they should have a say on who somebody else pays as a guest.

00:07:42.000 So, to give you an idea as to the entitlement here...

00:07:47.000 That's the atmosphere.

00:07:48.000 They weren't even yelling out questions.

00:07:50.000 We were going to a Q&A. They simply wanted to shout out any opinion that didn't agree with theirs.

00:07:55.000 I mean, it was just yelling racist, homophobe, transphobe.

00:07:58.000 It was all much louder, I'm sure, there than we were able to hear on this video because he was just picking up on you guys' mics.

00:08:03.000 Exactly.

00:08:04.000 So it was much louder and disruptive.

00:08:05.000 And that's the big difference, too, is I'm a comedian.

00:08:08.000 It's one thing to go up and lecture, and Christina Hoff Summers and Milo are great at that.

00:08:12.000 I've been doing stand-up since 17.

00:08:13.000 So at a stand-up special, you have a mic on the audience just because you want to register the laughs.

00:08:20.000 And that was one thing where they went up and they just couldn't.

00:08:23.000 Milo was quick.

00:08:24.000 Christina Hoff Summers couldn't get through her speech, couldn't get through it because they kept yelling. 0.85

00:08:28.000 They kept interrupting.

00:08:28.000 It was so loud.

00:08:29.000 She couldn't even hear herself.

00:08:30.000 So if you hear her stumbling over her words, it's not because she's inarticulate.

00:08:33.000 I couldn't even hear them a lot.

00:08:35.000 You hear the microphone, but the sound's going this way, and we're talking, so I couldn't even hear a lot of the questions.

00:08:42.000 That's how loud and disruptive they were.

00:08:44.000 So it's important for you to know that so you have the context that we didn't just go out and drop the A-bomb on these people.

00:08:52.000 And, listen, I understand that it's easy to feel bad for Fat Trigly Puff, right?

00:08:57.000 Listen, she probably wasn't treated very well.

00:08:59.000 She was probably bullied. 1.00

00:09:00.000 I understand that.

00:09:01.000 However, You get to a certain point where she's become absolutely everything that she claims to hate. 0.99

00:09:09.000 She is the bully. 1.00

00:09:10.000 She may be fat and unattractive. 1.00

00:09:12.000 She is fat and unattractive. 1.00

00:09:14.000 And people get mad because they think that automatically makes her the underdog. 1.00

00:09:18.000 She's not only a bully where someone maybe said something mean in a woman's restroom. 1.00

00:09:21.000 She wants to try and prevent people like me, Milo, Christina Hoff Summers, from being able to make a living. 1.00

00:09:27.000 Simply because we have an opinion.

00:09:29.000 For every protest you see like this, there's 20 behind the scenes where these people get folks fired, they boycott them, they get them banned so that they can't collect their speaking fees and make a living.

00:09:39.000 So, that's where I start to lose the empathy. 0.87

00:09:42.000 These people are absolute monsters.

00:09:46.000 Both in the figurative and the physical sense. 0.99

00:09:48.000 I get it.

00:09:48.000 Believe me, the irony is not lost on me.

00:09:50.000 Okay, we're going to have to go even past the breaks.

00:09:52.000 So I wanted to explain that so it doesn't seem like we're going to be the mean triggering people when you see how the Q&A unfolded.

00:09:59.000 Jared, let's go to...

00:10:01.000 Yeah, right away, right away, I was asked on rape culture and was lobbed at me that I was a rape apologist.

00:10:07.000 So here's something that we had to answer and shut people down.

00:10:11.000 Here's one of the very first questions regarding rape culture.

00:10:13.000 What?

00:10:13.000 We rig the deck against young boys, and they're more confused and angry than ever.

00:10:17.000 And people coming out and implying that all of these boys are somehow racist or sexist or perpetuating rape culture, you are going to screw up men for generations to come. 0.52

00:10:28.000 And this androgynous, spineless amoeba here who wants to get with the social justice warrior drum circle... 1.00

00:10:35.000 Listen, I'm not talking about some false sense of machismo.

00:10:39.000 Why don't we start off by talking about families, by talking about getting married and staying with your wife, by talking about how to raise your kids properly.

00:10:46.000 Let's teach young boys to be men, but oh no, we can't do that.

00:10:49.000 That'd be a moral judgment.

00:10:50.000 You want to fix whatever the actual rape statistic is, and it's not one in five? 0.95

00:10:54.000 You need to start getting judgmental and teach young boys how to become men, but you don't want to do that because it's judgmental.

00:11:02.000 By the way, yeah, the rape statistic is not really one in five.

00:11:04.000 Not even close.

00:11:05.000 Not even close.

00:11:06.000 It used to be one in four, and then they just subtly like, oh, we've got to scale this back.

00:11:09.000 Well, let's do it gradually.

00:11:10.000 Gradual steps.

00:11:12.000 Let's do baby steps.

00:11:13.000 So only 50 years from now we'll get close to the actual rape statistic.

00:11:13.000 We'll go one in five.

00:11:16.000 Well, because one statistic just had it recently was like one in 54.

00:11:19.000 Christina Hoff Summers was talking about it, and she says, that sounds too drastic.

00:11:22.000 It's probably somewhere in the middle.

00:11:23.000 Well, they weren't even trying to get the statistic when they came up with that number.

00:11:27.000 They got the number from some random questionnaire thing that they just kind of estimated.

00:11:31.000 I watched the whole video on it, and it was interesting.

00:11:33.000 It came from not even a real study about that.

00:11:36.000 I appreciate your zeal, but that is not a substantiated argument.

00:11:39.000 I kind of watched a video on it, and I'm pretty...

00:11:41.000 No, no, no.

00:11:42.000 I would bring you my source.

00:11:42.000 Bring me your source.

00:11:43.000 Bring me your source.

00:11:44.000 I think you're correct, but I don't want our audience to think that that is our standard of burden of proof.

00:11:51.000 That's mine.

00:11:52.000 How quick is the next clip?

00:11:53.000 Is it quick enough to...

00:11:54.000 No, we've got 30 seconds.

00:11:55.000 So we can't play it?

00:11:56.000 Nah.

00:11:56.000 Okay.

00:11:57.000 We have a bunch more to play.

00:11:57.000 Well, we'll come back.

00:11:58.000 And then we have Austin Peterson running for Libertarian candidate after...

00:12:02.000 Listen.

00:12:03.000 It is an ideological fight out there.

00:12:06.000 And that's what this was.

00:12:07.000 You could really feel that tension.

00:12:09.000 We shut up so you don't have to.

00:12:11.000 Stay tuned.

00:12:12.000 Everybody was kung fu fighting Those kids were fastest like me But they fought with expert timing. 1.00

00:12:32.000 We take you now to a live debate between John Stussel and social justice warrior Schuyler.

00:12:39.000 You see, the thing about free college is when you add up the taxes and the incentives and the financial grants, it isn't free.

00:12:48.000 Hey man, that's hate speech!

00:12:50.000 Now, if you want to get down to the nitty-gritty of the logic of the situation... 1.00

00:12:55.000 F*** you! 1.00

00:12:55.000 Get off the stage! 1.00

00:12:57.000 I'm just trying to... 1.00

00:12:58.000 You're a racist and a bigot and you need to... 1.00

00:13:00.000 I f***ing hate you! 1.00

00:13:02.000 Listen, it's a matter of policy and when it comes down to... 1.00

00:13:06.000 Don't give a shit about your policy! 1.00

00:13:07.000 You need to check your white privilege! 1.00

00:13:09.000 I... F*** at home you die! 1.00

00:13:14.000 We'll update you as these debates unfold. 1.00

00:13:43.000 All right, glad to be back.

00:13:44.000 Man, I hope I don't get sick again.

00:13:46.000 A few weeks ago I had that drip going on.

00:13:49.000 The problem is when you get sick, you just can't get out from under it when you're traveling so much.

00:13:53.000 I've got to cut back on some of this.

00:13:55.000 Especially when it involves going in with the pond scum buckets that are the social justice protesters at University of Methodist Amherst. 0.62

00:14:07.000 Important note though, before we continue with this, there's something like 29,000 students.

00:14:12.000 At UMass.

00:14:13.000 That's pretty significant.

00:14:14.000 Yeah, so I think there might have been somewhere between, I've heard, as low as 700, as high as 1,000 people at this venue, and maybe an eighth, a quarter to an eighth of them were yelling and protesting.

00:14:27.000 So don't get this twisted in thinking that this is mainstream.

00:14:31.000 These people are not mainstream.

00:14:32.000 They simply scream the loudest, and they have a very sympathetic media because they're on board with the cause.

00:14:37.000 Just like there's a great book called The Politically Incorrect Guide to the 60s.

00:14:41.000 When you think 60s, you think flower power hippies.

00:14:43.000 You know what the best-selling albums were in the 60s?

00:14:45.000 Show tunes and country albums.

00:14:48.000 Yeah.

00:14:49.000 It was never mainstream.

00:14:50.000 The hippie stuff was never mainstream.

00:14:51.000 Most people hated them and wanted to get to class.

00:14:54.000 So when people look back 20, 30 years from now, they're going to try and make it seem like this was the area of social justice equality.

00:15:00.000 It's not true, just like it's never been true that the hippies dominated the mainstream American cultural sphere in the 60s and early 70s.

00:15:09.000 So, alright, sidebar.

00:15:11.000 We'll go back to kind of going through.

00:15:12.000 For those who haven't watched the full video, we have it up at louderwithcrader.com, the whole one-and-a-half-hour panel debate with Milo, who was great, of course, and Christina Hoff Summers, who was stellar.

00:15:22.000 I'm trying to think.

00:15:23.000 The next question we have was...

00:15:25.000 Is this the guy who talks about the...

00:15:27.000 It's the hate speech.

00:15:27.000 Oh, the hate speech.

00:15:28.000 We're going to do a video on this next week.

00:15:30.000 Because hate speech, by the way, is a figment of your...

00:15:31.000 It doesn't exist.

00:15:32.000 People just...

00:15:33.000 They couldn't believe...

00:15:33.000 We're not going to run the clip, but I said, I just don't believe in hate speech.

00:15:36.000 It's not a thing.

00:15:37.000 It's not a thing.

00:15:38.000 Next question.

00:15:39.000 There isn't...

00:15:39.000 Hate speech is not a thing.

00:15:40.000 Bye.

00:15:41.000 And then this guy was so triggered...

00:15:44.000 Sometimes people get more triggered...

00:15:46.000 By the short answer.

00:15:47.000 We're trained through media to try and be verbose and flowery and take your...

00:15:51.000 Let's be honest, Mylonopoulos can take his time with some answers and it's wonderful to watch.

00:15:54.000 But sometimes you mess up that rhythm with a staccato.

00:15:57.000 Boom.

00:15:57.000 There is no hate speech.

00:15:58.000 And the guy's brain just...

00:16:00.000 He took about three hours to compose this question.

00:16:03.000 Right.

00:16:04.000 It took about three hours to compose this question.

00:16:06.000 Next.

00:16:07.000 Right.

00:16:07.000 Exactly.

00:16:07.000 Everything that guy said...

00:16:09.000 Yeah.

00:16:10.000 So this was then how he descended into madness.

00:16:13.000 We don't believe in hate speech.

00:16:15.000 We answered your question.

00:16:16.000 Leave. 0.99

00:16:20.000 Who was beat up because of what I said?

00:16:22.000 Your friend was beat up because of something that I said?

00:16:24.000 That's what we call being unable to substantiate an argument, Mr.

00:16:27.000 Tanktop.

00:16:27.000 Get out.

00:16:30.000 We have to move on to other questions.

00:16:32.000 We'll take our next question here.

00:16:34.000 Shame on your delts. 0.94

00:16:35.000 Shame on your stylist, darling. 1.00

00:16:38.000 I love how...

00:16:39.000 First thing I thought when I saw it, I'm like, I love how you both, you and Milo, insulted the guy.

00:16:43.000 But it was clearly the same insult from a straight guy and a gay guy. 0.91

00:16:46.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:16:47.000 Shame on your delts. 0.94

00:16:48.000 Shame on your stylist, darling. 1.00

00:16:49.000 Shame on your stylist, darling. 1.00

00:16:50.000 It's the exact same insult.

00:16:51.000 Yeah, it's just fantastic.

00:16:52.000 Yeah, just one is from a straight man.

00:16:55.000 By the way, I didn't know Tom from Blink-182 circa 2003 was still hanging around campus.

00:17:01.000 I don't know.

00:17:01.000 He's still on campus.

00:17:02.000 He just can't get enough of it. 0.99

00:17:03.000 Someone's a pedophile. 0.96

00:17:04.000 So, uh... 0.99

00:17:06.000 A lot of bro tanks.

00:17:07.000 People were commenting on that.

00:17:08.000 If you go here, I was surprised as to how many bro tank tops there were.

00:17:11.000 That guy just couldn't handle it.

00:17:12.000 Shame on your delts. 0.94

00:17:13.000 You can turn that into a meme or a t-shirt.

00:17:15.000 People really seemed to like it.

00:17:17.000 Something that was a big irony, for people who talked about rape culture and patriarchy and trying to silence women, they missed one key irony, and when I brought it up, they certainly weren't too comfortable.

00:17:28.000 Jared, roll clip.

00:17:29.000 They don't need wild, hysterical exaggeration.

00:17:34.000 Truth is on the side of compassion.

00:17:39.000 One irony here.

00:17:42.000 Okay, listen, listen.

00:17:44.000 Social justice left us here, okay?

00:17:45.000 Let's just point out an irony.

00:17:47.000 The only people right now who are trying to intimidate and silence and threaten a woman here are you.

00:17:57.000 Um, gosh, I look more angry than I thought my face did.

00:18:00.000 Yeah, you did.

00:18:00.000 You did not look pleased.

00:18:02.000 A lot of people ask me if I have restless leg or if I was on cocaine.

00:18:06.000 I was just so angry.

00:18:07.000 I think it was just that and the shoes that threw everybody off.

00:18:10.000 You know, I've worn those shoes since I've known you.

00:18:12.000 I know, I know.

00:18:12.000 I've never not worn those shoes.

00:18:13.000 Lots of comments, lots of comments.

00:18:14.000 And those are the only shoes I can wear after my knee surgery because they're slip-ons.

00:18:18.000 So, that was a big irony. 1.00

00:18:19.000 They were just yelling out, you know, ah, bitch! 1.00

00:18:21.000 Things like that at this woman, and I'm like, bitch! 1.00

00:18:23.000 And then yelling out, you're sexist! 1.00

00:18:25.000 Like, what? 1.00

00:18:26.000 You just called a woman who could be your grandmother a bitch. 1.00

00:18:30.000 I hope you die. 1.00

00:18:31.000 So, you know what? 1.00

00:18:33.000 I comfort myself.

00:18:34.000 I've talked about this.

00:18:34.000 This is really wrong.

00:18:36.000 You know how people say, like, they'll try and sort of console their kids and say, hey, you know what?

00:18:40.000 You never know what can happen when something is bad.

00:18:43.000 For me, with people like this, I console myself.

00:18:45.000 I say, I don't know if anyone else does this.

00:18:47.000 Tweet me at S. Crowder. 0.70

00:18:48.000 I say, maybe they'll get hit by a car.

00:18:51.000 Anything can happen.

00:18:51.000 Maybe.

00:18:53.000 This was an answer to someone I asked, what is political correctness?

00:18:56.000 We're going to do a video on this next week, too.

00:18:57.000 Roll clip.

00:18:58.000 So you know what?

00:18:58.000 At this point, just keep the cameras running.

00:19:00.000 These people don't want to hear any differing opinions.

00:19:03.000 That's what political correctness is.

00:19:04.000 You want to know what political correctness is?

00:19:05.000 Look around and listen.

00:19:06.000 These people don't have arguments.

00:19:07.000 They just yell out racist. 1.00

00:19:09.000 And they call the gay guy here, who has a fetish for black dudes, a racist homophobe. 1.00

00:19:16.000 Milo does like the black dudes. 1.00

00:19:17.000 We have to move on pretty quickly because we have Austin Peterson coming in.

00:19:20.000 Here's one thing where even Milo and Christina Hoff Summers got uncomfortable.

00:19:24.000 This is when they started coming a few lineups, a few questions in a row in the lineup regarding Islam.

00:19:30.000 Milo was actually, it was the first time I saw him deal with Islam, and I was really proud of him.

00:19:33.000 He handled it well. 0.93

00:19:35.000 If he did that, though, then I pulled out a double-barreled hair-trigger crap machine gun and fanned the hammer.

00:19:43.000 This was the answer that really triggered them. 0.99

00:19:45.000 My problem is not, of course, there are plenty of great Muslims out there. 1.00

00:19:48.000 Not every Muslim is a terrorist.

00:19:49.000 It's important for people to note that.

00:19:51.000 Muhammad was.

00:19:52.000 And I have a problem with that. 0.97

00:19:53.000 If you look and read about Muhammad's life, he killed, he called for the deaths of Christians and Jews. 0.96

00:19:58.000 I have a problem with that. 0.93

00:20:00.000 And you know what?

00:20:01.000 That's okay.

00:20:01.000 Just like atheists have a problem with Christianity.

00:20:04.000 At this point, we'll conclude our question and answer section.

00:20:08.000 He looks like he's...

00:20:09.000 Oh my god!

00:20:11.000 The lady in the jab is rushing me! 1.00

00:20:14.000 So this was the whole...

00:20:15.000 It was just constant yelling, right?

00:20:17.000 These people did not want to have a discussion.

00:20:19.000 So let me bring you to the final point that we answered that resulted in the biggest, I think, support of the night.

00:20:25.000 This is the takeaway.

00:20:27.000 You just yelled out that all of us were racist.

00:20:29.000 And then you asked a question.

00:20:31.000 And then you asked a question.

00:20:32.000 And the question was...

00:20:36.000 There you go.

00:20:37.000 It sounded better when you were yelling it with a chorus of backdrops.

00:20:39.000 Let me explain.

00:20:40.000 Okay, can I answer your question?

00:20:41.000 Can I answer your question?

00:20:42.000 Do you want an answer?

00:20:43.000 Would you like an answer?

00:20:44.000 No, you don't know the answer, sweetheart.

00:20:47.000 Let me answer it for you. 0.96

00:20:48.000 Listen, you have, right here on this panel, you have a gay British Trump supporter, okay?

00:20:59.000 You have a lifelong registered Democrat, open feminist, who's not a third-wave feminist, and you have a French-Canadian Christian conservative.

00:21:08.000 So you may ask, why is there only white people?

00:21:11.000 Because the only diversity you don't care about is that of intellectual diversity.

00:21:15.000 Right.

00:21:16.000 All right.

00:22:08.000 I think it will.

00:22:09.000 Yeah?

00:22:09.000 It seemed...

00:22:10.000 It was better than last week, I thought.

00:22:12.000 I thought it would progress in the right direction.

00:22:14.000 That's good.

00:22:16.000 Pretty energetic.

00:22:17.000 What's going on in this spot?

00:22:18.000 How much time do I have?

00:22:19.000 Um...

00:22:20.000 I've got less than a minute.

00:22:22.000 Hey, you need to wear the shirt, by the way.

00:22:24.000 What shirt?

00:22:25.000 Uh, the...

00:22:26.000 How far last week?

00:22:30.000 Every time someone has to wear it as branding, you have to wear the shirt.

00:22:30.000 That's the whole thing.

00:22:33.000 Now I'm going to wear the other shirts we designed.

00:22:34.000 The shirt's dirty, isn't it?

00:22:35.000 You have to just plan for it.

00:22:37.000 You have to wear it once a week for a couple of hours.

00:22:38.000 Just plan to wear the shirt.

00:22:40.000 Put the dirty shirt back on.

00:22:42.000 What are you complaining about?

00:22:43.000 It looks good on you.

00:22:45.000 It's a good-looking shirt.

00:22:47.000 It does look pretty good.

00:23:15.000 Everyone Okay.

00:23:18.000 Time to get serious.

00:23:19.000 Time to class it up because we have somebody running for national office. 1.00

00:23:23.000 One could say the office running for the nomination of the Libertarian Party.

00:23:28.000 I just forgot the site.

00:23:29.000 I'm sorry.

00:23:30.000 Austin, what is that site again?

00:23:30.000 Austin Peterson.

00:23:33.000 So it's austinforpresident.com.

00:23:35.000 Austinforpresident.com.

00:23:36.000 Gosh, in my head I was going to Austin Peterson for President, and we don't know what kind of a site that could be on the Internet, so we want to make sure they get it right.

00:23:43.000 Austin, thank you for coming on the show.

00:23:44.000 So, Libertarian Party.

00:23:48.000 This is a big deal.

00:23:49.000 We had Julia Barofsky on and she was talking about you.

00:23:51.000 I hate to say this, not that you're an underdog, but it was kind of assumed Gary Johnson and she was the one who really brought up your name and spoke highly of you.

00:23:59.000 What's it like in 2016 with this crazy election running for the nomination for the Libertarian Party?

00:24:05.000 Well, it's not bad.

00:24:06.000 I'm actually positioned really well because, unfortunately, it looks as if Trump is probably going to win the Republican nomination, and unfortunately, it looks like Hillary might win the Democratic nomination, which would mean that I would basically be the only pro-life, pro-liberty, pro-constitutional candidate on the ballot.

00:24:21.000 So if I can win the nomination of my party, I think that we may see an exodus from the two major parties looking for someone who represents American values in a broader way.

00:24:31.000 Okay, so two questions, obviously.

00:24:33.000 I gotta go in with this one.

00:24:35.000 Do you really think a Libertarian candidate has a shot at winning?

00:24:39.000 It depends, and there's a lot of different fights to be won, of course.

00:24:44.000 Winning the White House is the big one, and that's the longest shot, but one of the biggest fights that we can win is to get into the national debates, and if we can get a candidate who, at a minimum, can win 5% of the national vote, that puts us as a major party status, and that would shake up and revolutionize American politics, because it gives us ballot access, because we have to spend millions of dollars just to get on the ballot across the country.

00:25:06.000 So I'm looking at lots of different fights That I can win.

00:25:09.000 The big fight is obviously the one that I would love to win, but I would be just absolutely ecstatic if I could double the national vote total.

00:25:18.000 Historically, the LP has only gotten 1%, so I think that I can bring us a little bit down the road towards the kinds of ideas and policies that I advocate for.

00:25:26.000 Okay, I want to go back to that.

00:25:27.000 Now, you said pro-life, and Julie Borowski talked about that.

00:25:29.000 Do you have issues with that with the Libertarian Party?

00:25:32.000 Because I know they can be pretty split.

00:25:34.000 You have people who are personally pro-life, but say, well, I don't want to touch policy.

00:25:38.000 And then again, people who, listen, if they see it as murder, it's murder.

00:25:41.000 And that is the role of the federal government to stop murder.

00:25:44.000 So what's that like running on the national platform for the Libertarian Party being pro-life?

00:25:48.000 I am a federalist, so I think that murder is a state issue.

00:25:51.000 It should be a state issue.

00:25:52.000 It's not the federal issue.

00:25:53.000 I think that if I were running for governor, would I sign a bill that would outlaw abortions?

00:25:58.000 But as president of the United States, I think that the best thing you can do is to make a moral case against abortion. 0.63

00:25:58.000 Absolutely. 0.63

00:26:03.000 And libertarians believe in personal responsibility.

00:26:05.000 There's nothing that'll get you in trouble faster than to tell people that you should be personally responsible.

00:26:10.000 Because when you say you're pro-choice, well, you do have a choice not to have sex.

00:26:14.000 So the question is, at what point do we start talking about people having a choice?

00:26:18.000 So I will be a moral leader against abortion, and I will make the case for why I think that we should move towards a society that is more pro-life.

00:26:25.000 The problem is that when you start talking about something like the consistent pro-life ethic, then you have to start talking about the death penalty.

00:26:32.000 And the conservatives who love me about being pro-life for the babies start getting angry because I'm pro-life all the way across the board.

00:26:38.000 That means ending the death penalty as well.

00:26:40.000 Well, I want to go back to that.

00:26:40.000 Right.

00:26:41.000 So you said a federalist.

00:26:44.000 I'm much more in line with that.

00:26:45.000 We had Julie Barofsky on.

00:26:46.000 I said, listen, I think drugs are bad personally.

00:26:46.000 I talked about that.

00:26:48.000 Leave it to the states.

00:26:50.000 And I think some libertarians were mad that I said, yeah, people don't like it in their state.

00:26:53.000 They have the right to say no in my state.

00:26:55.000 And a lot of libertarians get mad at that.

00:26:56.000 So I think we're probably more in line there.

00:26:59.000 You think the federal government should punt on murder?

00:27:01.000 I know as far as states deciding on whether they believe in the death penalty or not, but wouldn't that fall under the role of the federal government for murder to be illegal across the board?

00:27:10.000 I don't think so.

00:27:11.000 I don't think the federal government is going to be able to punish that.

00:27:13.000 I think that the federal government should have a very limited role.

00:27:17.000 I agree, too, but murder seems like it should fall under that purview.

00:27:21.000 Murder, illegal, bad.

00:27:22.000 Seems like most libertarians, even anarchists, would say, yeah, that's one of the things that we think government should have across the board.

00:27:30.000 Murder, illegal.

00:27:31.000 Yeah, well, define murder, because some people say that all murders should be punished the same way, but there's a reason why we have murder in the first degree and murder in the second degree.

00:27:40.000 So if you look at abortion, for example, some people would say that the abortifacients, for example, RU486, the morning after pill, would be murder.

00:27:49.000 So I would probably disagree with them on that.

00:27:51.000 But in terms of how you should prosecute it, I think that it's best prosecuted at the state level.

00:27:56.000 I'm talking about prosecuting.

00:27:57.000 I'm talking about murder.

00:27:58.000 Does the federal government have the right to say murder is illegal, period?

00:28:02.000 Or do you think that if a state wants to say, no, we want murder illegal in Arkansas, who knows what they do in Arkansas, that they have the right to do that?

00:28:11.000 The question really does lie in enforcement.

00:28:14.000 I think the problem is that if you try and say, oh, murder is illegal across the board, well, then what kind of authoritarian government would you create in order to ensure that every single state is complying?

00:28:25.000 The only way that you could go in legally and say, okay, constitutionally the federal government can come in is to use the clause that states that the government shall ensure a Republican form of governance in every state.

00:28:37.000 So you've got to start broadening the reach of the federal government.

00:28:41.000 You've got to start expanding the power of the federal government.

00:28:43.000 And that kind of stuff makes me very nervous.

00:28:45.000 So again, I think that it should be best decided at the federal law.

00:28:48.000 Not to discuss prosecuting, though.

00:28:49.000 I'm not talking about prosecuting.

00:28:50.000 Different states have different methods of prosecuting, like you said, kinds of murder.

00:28:54.000 But murder across the board is entirely illegal.

00:28:57.000 So I'm just saying that because I know people who might be considering you could consider that alarming, where it's like, well, hold on a second.

00:29:04.000 Because a lot of libertarians say, well, no, of course we think the government should outlaw murder, stealing, any crime that hurts anybody else.

00:29:08.000 That falls under the legitimate role of federal government and then everything else to the states.

00:29:12.000 I want to make it really clear here.

00:29:15.000 Are you talking about prosecuting or does the federal government have the authority to say, no, no states can make murder legal?

00:29:21.000 I don't really think the federal government needs to be getting involved in telling the states what they need to prosecute or what is murder or what isn't murder.

00:29:28.000 That's the problem.

00:29:29.000 Because when you say something like, oh, this is murder, well, then you have people who will say, oh, well, chemtrails are murder.

00:29:37.000 Or vaccines are murder.

00:29:38.000 And it all relies on what you define as murder.

00:29:42.000 So when you say, is the morning after pill murder, I would say it's probably not.

00:29:47.000 But the question is, what role does the federal government play?

00:29:50.000 So yeah, you can say broadly, you can say all you want and all the beautiful language and words, yes, ban murder across the board.

00:29:57.000 But it all relies on the definition of how that is enforced.

00:30:00.000 And that is where the rubber hits the road.

00:30:02.000 I'm talking about, you know, 99% of what people would agree on murder.

00:30:02.000 Right.

00:30:05.000 I'm not talking about getting into the pro-life issue, because it seems like it gets difficult to get into the pro-life issue if we don't say, yeah, a guy stabbed his wife and her husband in their sleep, and that's murder.

00:30:13.000 And one state says...

00:30:15.000 We don't know.

00:30:16.000 I mean, do you want to give them the power to define what is manslaughter?

00:30:19.000 Do you want to give them the power to define what is a DUI? Do you want to give them the power to say what is the minimum drinking age that should be across every state?

00:30:27.000 The problem is it always relies on enforcement.

00:30:29.000 It always comes down to what the federal government's role is going to be.

00:30:33.000 And to me, the federal government's role should be very limited.

00:30:35.000 Okay.

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 Well, I don't know if I would agree with you on that on the issue of murder.

00:30:39.000 I'm not talking about getting into pro-life yet.

00:30:40.000 But okay.

00:30:41.000 So you talk about getting more votes into the Libertarian Party.

00:30:45.000 How do you...

00:30:46.000 I want to ask you this.

00:30:46.000 How do you feel about the two-party system?

00:30:48.000 And do you see the value in it compared to, say, like a parliamentary system?

00:30:52.000 Or, you know, to avoid the quagmire that we have right now, like you said, in the Republican Party, right?

00:30:56.000 You might have Donald Trump win, who can't get above that 37% ceiling of the vote.

00:31:01.000 You know, the reason the two-party system exists, and it's not perfect...

00:31:04.000 Is to avoid that in general.

00:31:06.000 Is there some value there, or does it need to be scrapped altogether?

00:31:10.000 I think that there's something to be said for a parliamentary system.

00:31:13.000 In Britain, for example, they have question time for their prime minister.

00:31:16.000 I would love to see President Obama have to stand up in front of a Republican Congress where they just scream at him and ask him questions, and they're able to get answers from him.

00:31:23.000 And I think there's some value there.

00:31:26.000 So we can take the best of the systems and combine them.

00:31:29.000 So do I see some value in the two-party system?

00:31:31.000 Only in that it does create a quagmire.

00:31:33.000 I guess I'm pro-quagmire in a sense.

00:31:35.000 And if you're for a limited government, then you have to understand that the way that the Constitution was written, it did end up with a two-party system, but also that it stopped people's ambitions.

00:31:46.000 It slows things down.

00:31:47.000 It slows down legislation from being passed so that the whims of the masses would not come in and change the system overnight.

00:31:55.000 So when people talk about gridlock in Washington, I start saying, well, yeah, absolutely.

00:31:59.000 We want that gridlock because we don't want them passing all of their evil plans.

00:32:04.000 No, I agree with you, and that's one of those things we've talked about, where it's really nice to throw out the word and say, we need to stop being politically divided.

00:32:10.000 We need to unite.

00:32:11.000 What if I don't want to unite with you?

00:32:13.000 What if I don't want to unite with you with mandating health insurance?

00:32:17.000 What if I don't want to unite with you with protecting partial birth abortion? 0.83

00:32:22.000 Why?

00:32:23.000 Why should we hold hands and sing we are the world when I have nothing in common with you as far as values?

00:32:28.000 And I don't know why.

00:32:29.000 It's just been thrown out as a talking point.

00:32:30.000 No one believes it.

00:32:31.000 Barack Obama's been the most divisive president ever.

00:32:33.000 But everyone just says, oh, we should be united. 0.98

00:32:36.000 So I think we're kindred spirits there where you don't want to unite with jackasses. 1.00

00:32:40.000 No, I don't.

00:32:41.000 The question is, what form of government do we have here in the United States?

00:32:45.000 Most people think, oh, well, the United States is a democracy.

00:32:47.000 That's actually not the case.

00:32:48.000 We're a constitutional republic with some limited democratic aspects.

00:32:52.000 And I say limited democratic aspects because the Electoral College is not a democracy.

00:32:57.000 The question here is, how do we protect individual rights?

00:33:00.000 The answer is that we are supposed to protect some things you don't have a right to vote on.

00:33:06.000 Whenever somebody says, oh, you have a right to vote, you have a right to vote.

00:33:09.000 Well, do you have a right to vote to take away my Second Amendment rights?

00:33:12.000 No.

00:33:12.000 You don't have a right to vote to take away my free speech.

00:33:15.000 So there are certain intrinsic natural rights that citizens have in this constitutional republic that no one has the right to vote on.

00:33:21.000 So when we talk about unifying or we talk about all coming together for bipartisanship, well, I have to throw the monkey wrench in there.

00:33:27.000 And that's what I'm trying to do as a libertarian, is to try and throw some monkey wrenches in the gears to try and stop this ship of statism.

00:33:34.000 Because truly, I think we are a minority.

00:33:37.000 Honestly, I think that the masses now are trending heavily socially Democrat.

00:33:42.000 And that's why I praise the founders for this constitutional republic, because this means that people like yourself and myself shouldn't be railroaded by things like Obamacare.

00:33:52.000 We're not a single Republican voted for it.

00:33:54.000 Well, that's also important to note.

00:33:56.000 Because I hear this a lot where people go, oh, you know, if Republicans fought as vehemently against Obama as they do against Trump, we wouldn't have him.

00:34:02.000 Or Republicans didn't do a damn thing about Obamacare. 0.99

00:34:05.000 Well, hold on a second. 0.78

00:34:05.000 I was there. 0.78

00:34:06.000 They did fight against Obama, and he had the ability to do whatever he wanted for a while.

00:34:10.000 No Republicans voted for Obamacare.

00:34:12.000 So even though you're a libertarian, and I would agree with you, listen, I think the Republican Party is broken and there are pansies there who need to be ejected. 0.99

00:34:19.000 We can both acknowledge there still is a contrast on some of those issues, right?

00:34:23.000 It's not entirely basically needing to be flushed down the drain.

00:34:28.000 It depends.

00:34:29.000 Of course, the Republicans always talk a good game about limited government, but when's the last time that we saw a Republican actually follow through?

00:34:35.000 Well, voting against Obamacare, like you said.

00:34:35.000 There are some...

00:34:37.000 I mean, I would say that's at least a contrast there, where if people just want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, well, hold on a second, not a single one supporting what's become a disaster.

00:34:45.000 I give them credit.

00:34:46.000 But who was the Supreme Court judge that codified it forever?

00:34:50.000 So it was the Republicans pick.

00:34:51.000 I know, I get it, but I'm saying there is some credit to be given there, right?

00:34:54.000 Shame.

00:34:54.000 Absolutely.

00:34:55.000 I love Mike Lee.

00:34:57.000 I love Rand Paul.

00:34:58.000 I love Justin Amash and Thomas Massey.

00:35:00.000 There's a lot of great Republicans, and I hope that they will quit their party and join the Libertarian Party.

00:35:05.000 Do you really want them to quit, though?

00:35:06.000 Because, like you said, you want to get that awareness raised right now as a percentage of the electorate.

00:35:11.000 But do you really want all the Republicans to quit right now before that transition, which may or may not take place, has taken place?

00:35:17.000 Because, I mean, they are giving you some cover as well.

00:35:20.000 If they just go away, you don't have a shot at raising the Libertarian Party.

00:35:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:35:25.000 I don't want them to go away.

00:35:26.000 I want them to stick in politics.

00:35:27.000 Obviously, I'd love them to join my party.

00:35:28.000 I'd love for one of them to be on my ticket with me.

00:35:30.000 That'd be fantastic.

00:35:31.000 But if there was perhaps an electromagnetic pulse and somehow Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump died and I've won by default, then you'd have Austin Peterson as president.

00:35:42.000 You'd want people like Rand Paul and Mike Lee and Ted Cruz to write the proper legislation to send it to me to sign.

00:35:48.000 So yeah, I don't want them to quit.

00:35:50.000 I just want them to work a little closer with libertarians on our agendas.

00:35:53.000 So you just mentioned Ted Cruz.

00:35:55.000 I know not perfect in the eyes of libertarians, but would you say he's one of the better Republicans, one of the good guys in the Republican Party?

00:36:01.000 Yeah, sure.

00:36:02.000 Okay.

00:36:03.000 So if you weren't running for the Libertarian Party and you were someone who's like, well, I have to vote Republican, and right now it's down to Trump or Cruz.

00:36:10.000 I know you have to go a long way here.

00:36:12.000 This is a stretch.

00:36:12.000 You would go Cruz over Trump.

00:36:14.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

00:36:16.000 Yeah, Cruz is a sincere, true conservative.

00:36:19.000 Where Cruz and I differ, it's much different than where I differ with Donald Trump.

00:36:25.000 But I'm an old boy.

00:36:27.000 I understand how politics works, and I know what Donald Trump has built for himself, and I understand how the machine works.

00:36:32.000 So I see that we are going to probably get Donald Trump.

00:36:35.000 That's why I'm here.

00:36:35.000 I'm the backup plan for you guys, so that you can cast your vote for somebody you actually want.

00:36:39.000 We want to talk more about that after the break.

00:36:42.000 Austin Peterson, petersonforpresident.com.

00:36:45.000 This is interesting.

00:36:46.000 Stay tuned.

00:36:46.000 tune ladder with crowder we take you now to a live debate between john stossel and social justice warrior schuyler See, the thing about free college is when you add up the taxes and the incentives and the financial grants, it isn't free.

00:37:15.000 Hey man, that's hate speech!

00:37:17.000 Well, if you want to get down to the nitty gritty of the logic of the situation... 1.00

00:37:22.000 F*** you! 1.00

00:37:23.000 Get off the stage! 1.00

00:37:24.000 I'm just trying to... 1.00

00:37:25.000 You're a racist and a bigot and you need to... 1.00

00:37:27.000 I f***ing hate you! 1.00

00:37:30.000 Listen, it's a matter of policy, and when it comes down to- Don't give a shit about your policy! 1.00

00:37:35.000 You need to check your white privilege! 1.00

00:37:36.000 I hope you die! 1.00

00:37:41.000 We'll update you as these debates unfold. 0.99

00:37:44.000 Glad to be back.

00:38:10.000 I need to be scolded and punished.

00:38:14.000 Austin for president. 0.83

00:38:15.000 Your punishment must be much more severe.

00:38:17.000 Much more severe, yes.

00:38:20.000 Austinforpresident.com.

00:38:21.000 Running for Libertarian, the Libertarian Party.

00:38:24.000 Austin Peterson, thank you for staying with us, sir.

00:38:26.000 Thanks for having me.

00:38:27.000 Okay, so obviously we had to go through that because a lot of people may not be familiar with you.

00:38:31.000 I say this is no offense.

00:38:33.000 I say it because a lot of people don't even know who Ted Cruz is at this point, right?

00:38:37.000 There's just name recognition.

00:38:38.000 It's kind of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump is a reality show host, so they all know Donald Trump.

00:38:43.000 So a lot of people may not be familiar with you.

00:38:44.000 Hopefully now they're a little more familiarized with your stance as a Libertarian Party.

00:38:48.000 So, let's get a little further down the trail.

00:38:49.000 You've perked up some years.

00:38:50.000 They're considering going third party right now.

00:38:53.000 As just displayed, a quarter of Republicans won't vote.

00:38:55.000 Which, by the way, out there, don't do that.

00:38:57.000 That hurts the down-ballot candidates.

00:38:59.000 Okay?

00:38:59.000 Even if you don't like Donald Trump, or you don't like Ted Cruz...

00:39:02.000 Don't do this.

00:39:03.000 This isn't directed at Austin, but please don't do that.

00:39:05.000 Austin.

00:39:05.000 So we're at the point, they might vote Libertarian.

00:39:08.000 Why should you get the nomination for the Libertarian Party as opposed to, say, Gary Johnson?

00:39:12.000 What's the contrast?

00:39:13.000 Give me your pitch, sir!

00:39:15.000 Right, so the question is, who's best able to articulate this message to the masses?

00:39:20.000 I've been around for ten years now, fighting every single day for limited government.

00:39:24.000 I was a producer at Fox Business for Judge Napolitano.

00:39:27.000 He said I was the right side of his brain.

00:39:29.000 So I understand and I know the Constitution.

00:39:31.000 I think I represent American values, and I can actually bring a coalition of disaffected conservatives and disaffected Democrats together.

00:39:39.000 That's what you're going to need.

00:39:40.000 You're going to need somebody who can draw from those Bernie supporters who won't go for Hillary Clinton because they want somebody who wants to end the banking cartels, the Federal Reserve, somebody who wants to end the war on drugs, somebody who wants to end the corporatism in the system, allow people to buy insurance across state lines.

00:39:55.000 That's ending the insurance cartels right there.

00:39:57.000 That's the kind of stuff that perks up Democrats' ears.

00:40:02.000 I wouldn't put the insurance one in there.

00:40:04.000 I've never heard a Democrat express it.

00:40:05.000 I wish they would.

00:40:06.000 Democrats do say that they think that the insurance industry is corrupt.

00:40:10.000 So when you start talking about allowing people to purchase across state lines and competition, bringing down those big insurance companies that we've bailed out, then Democrats do start to say, oh yeah, this is the corporatism of the system.

00:40:19.000 They don't like the bailouts.

00:40:20.000 I agree with that entirely.

00:40:21.000 I'm just saying I've not heard anyone use that in the Democratic national platform.

00:40:25.000 But if they do, and I'm mistaken, I wish that they did.

00:40:29.000 Sorry.

00:40:29.000 Continue.

00:40:30.000 Right, yeah, this is like third-party candidates that I speak to.

00:40:33.000 So, moving on to the Republicans, they're going to want somebody who represents real, true conservative values, somebody who wants limited government, somebody who wants to be a fiscal conservative, somebody who wants to cut taxes, cut spending, who still wants a national defense but doesn't think that the United States should be the policeman of the world.

00:40:48.000 So the question is, which candidate embodies all of those values?

00:40:52.000 Well, it's me.

00:40:53.000 With Gary Johnson, although he has a good record as governor of New Mexico, I think that he's not able to articulate these principles in a way that gets people excited.

00:41:02.000 And you have to have boots on the ground to win an election.

00:41:04.000 That's how Obama won.

00:41:06.000 He was able to inspire people to actually get out on the street and pull a lever.

00:41:09.000 Gary Johnson doesn't tend to be the type to inspire people to activism, whereas I do.

00:41:14.000 I'm experienced in building national coalitions.

00:41:16.000 I've got a long history in the Tea Party movement.

00:41:19.000 Fighting Obamacare, and I think that if the American people actually figure out, hey, this kid exists, then I think I could build a broad national movement.

00:41:27.000 You know what?

00:41:27.000 I think you may be right.

00:41:28.000 So you're saying not a huge gap between you and Gary Johnson as far as policy, certainly not like between...

00:41:34.000 I thought that.

00:41:35.000 I thought that, but I was wrong.

00:41:36.000 I thought that was the case.

00:41:37.000 We had a big argument in the Stossel forums, and I would encourage...

00:41:41.000 Did he get bitchy? 0.70

00:41:42.000 Because when Gary Johnson gets mad, he kind of gets bitchy. 0.81

00:41:44.000 He got very bitchy.

00:41:46.000 And it was over the issue, two issues that I think are really important, which he's trying to kind of play off. 0.97

00:41:51.000 This is the, he said that he wanted to force, that he would force Jews to bake a Nazi cake. 0.72

00:41:56.000 And this is about the gay marriage. 0.99

00:41:58.000 Right, right.

00:41:58.000 Well, there's a soundbite, but I understand the context.

00:42:02.000 Yes.

00:42:02.000 Yeah, and the question is, should you force cake makers to bake cakes for homosexual couples?

00:42:08.000 This is a question of private property.

00:42:09.000 This is the heart of free market philosophy.

00:42:12.000 The right to free association, that's free speech, as well as the freedom of religion.

00:42:16.000 And he said that freedom of religion would lead to a black hole.

00:42:19.000 I think that's wrong.

00:42:20.000 Yeah.

00:42:22.000 Yeah.

00:42:22.000 Also, the Second Amendment.

00:42:23.000 He started talking about we need to have a conversation about mental health screening for background checks.

00:42:28.000 And the problem is, is one of the things that you didn't see in that Stalzel forum was during the break, a veteran stood up and said, hey, just so you know, Governor...

00:42:38.000 Oh, did we lose Austin?

00:42:40.000 There we go.

00:42:41.000 Sorry, Austin, your computer and your whole thing froze.

00:42:43.000 Not KJR. Do we have an image of him?

00:42:44.000 Oh, there he is.

00:42:45.000 Okay, continue.

00:42:45.000 I'm sorry.

00:42:46.000 Someone said, hey, Governor.

00:42:48.000 Continue.

00:42:49.000 Yeah.

00:42:49.000 Somebody said, hey, Governor, I'm a returning veteran with PTSD and the government wants to restrict my Second Amendment rights.

00:42:54.000 In New York, if you go and see a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist says this person should not have guns, there's no due process.

00:43:00.000 Well, do you know the situation with therapy dogs?

00:43:03.000 This is funny because I know someone.

00:43:06.000 This dog is not a therapy dog.

00:43:08.000 It just pees and craps everywhere, and her aunt is a psychologist, so she could write the paper, the slip for her.

00:43:13.000 And so I have another friend who was like, oh yeah, I was just talking about this.

00:43:16.000 I have a 90-pound dog.

00:43:17.000 They actually tried to make a therapy dog.

00:43:19.000 We said no.

00:43:21.000 He wanted to make his dog a therapy dog just to take with him anywhere.

00:43:23.000 And then he found out that if he made his dog a therapy dog, he couldn't have a CPL. I have no idea if that's true.

00:43:29.000 He just told me the story this last week, and it seems to check out from a basic Google search.

00:43:34.000 But it goes to the point of mental health can be subjective, right?

00:43:38.000 You see a psychologist for anger issues, or you have ADD, and you get a prescription for Adderall.

00:43:42.000 Next thing you know, they're putting you in a padded room and taking your pretty guns away. 0.94

00:43:45.000 Right, and the question is due process.

00:43:48.000 Do we have due process?

00:43:49.000 And we don't have due process if you can just be diagnosed with PTSD and have your guns taken away, or if you can have a psychiatrist write a note and have your guns taken away.

00:43:57.000 Usually you have to go through a court.

00:43:59.000 You have to be convicted of a crime.

00:44:00.000 Then you could potentially lose your rights.

00:44:02.000 So I disagree with the governor on the gun.

00:44:05.000 I disagree with the governor on the gay marriage issue and the question of whether or not people should be forced to associate.

00:44:10.000 And those are big issues.

00:44:11.000 So I'm going to make a stink about that because I think that we need somebody who's going to represent our values completely and fully and unabashedly and not give in to the social justice warriors just because we're afraid of being politically incorrect.

00:44:22.000 Yes, I agree.

00:44:23.000 And that is one thing I think we can both agree.

00:44:24.000 Well, it started off that way with Donald Trump, where people were glad, going, okay, here's a guy who's not afraid to just stand up to these people.

00:44:31.000 And then with the whole trans thing, he kind of bent over and took it with North Carolina and just towed the line. 0.54

00:44:36.000 So I think people might be waking up. 0.92

00:44:39.000 Oh, darn it, we only have one minute? 0.97

00:44:40.000 All right. 0.97

00:44:41.000 Well, we'll have to bring you back, Mr.

00:44:43.000 Peterson, to talk about the social justice worries and freedom of speech, because I think...

00:44:46.000 We're on board with that.

00:44:47.000 So I wanted to make sure to introduce my audience to some things they didn't know about you.

00:44:51.000 And by God, there should be due process with charging you for being so snappily dressed.

00:44:56.000 Look at that.

00:44:56.000 Spread collar, pink tie.

00:44:58.000 So, all right, before we go, what's the plug?

00:44:59.000 Give us the site the correct way.

00:45:01.000 All right, austinforpresident.com.

00:45:02.000 You can find me on Facebook.

00:45:03.000 Peterson is spelled all E's.

00:45:05.000 P-E-T-E-R-S-E-N. So if you type Austin Peterson in anywhere, you'll find my Facebook pages.

00:45:10.000 You'll find 100 articles saying I'm horrible, I suck, I stink. 0.99

00:45:13.000 This is true. 0.99

00:45:14.000 And before we go, listen, people listening, if you hate Trump or hate Cruz, do not refrain from voting because of the down-ballot candidates.

00:45:21.000 So you can go in and have a protest vote, at least with Austin Peterson, and still vote for your local representatives.

00:45:26.000 Ladder with Crowder, Austin Peterson, thank you, sir.

00:45:29.000 We must go.

00:45:31.000 Thanks a lot.

00:45:35.000 It only takes a time when Hey, Steven, what are you doing?

00:45:47.000 I'm just browsing AR15.com.

00:45:49.000 You mean the site about the scary black rifle with the best prices, community, and information on the web?

00:45:52.000 Oh, what the hell's the difference?

00:45:54.000 AR15.com!

00:45:55.000 Kaboom! 0.99

00:45:57.000 AR15.com!

00:45:59.000 Kaboom! 0.99

00:46:04.000 You know, they just heard the three takes.

00:46:05.000 You did three takes.

00:46:06.000 You didn't edit it.

00:46:07.000 They can hear you.

00:46:08.000 Kaboom! 0.99

00:46:20.000 Don't get excited!

00:46:22.000 My head was like a ping pong ball.

00:46:47.000 Back in the second hour, we have Dean Cain coming up at the bottom of the hour.

00:46:50.000 I am your host.

00:46:50.000 Follow me at S. Crowder.

00:46:53.000 I am Social Justice Warriors Natural Predator.

00:46:55.000 Producing with me in studio, as always, is NotGayJarred. 0.70

00:46:58.000 Follow him at NotGayJarred.

00:47:00.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:47:01.000 Draw your own conclusions.

00:47:03.000 That was a good interview.

00:47:04.000 A lot of people actually giving us some feedback on Austin Peterson.

00:47:06.000 A lot of people didn't know who he was.

00:47:09.000 I wish we had a great...

00:47:12.000 He's a good guy to talk with, like, besides just things.

00:47:14.000 We need to have him back.

00:47:15.000 Yeah, he actually is really strong on social justice leftists, and he had some commentary when we were talking during the break about the UMass event.

00:47:23.000 We just didn't want to make it all about me.

00:47:26.000 And pot. 0.87

00:47:27.000 And pot. 0.87

00:47:28.000 The libertarians love pot.

00:47:29.000 But I did say that I would read some of your questions regarding the UMass event.

00:47:37.000 So...

00:47:39.000 Here's a question from Bill Sears.

00:47:40.000 Do you think that Teletubby will change your ways since she, it, was trending on Twitter?

00:47:44.000 That's not very nice.

00:47:45.000 I wonder what they think when they see it.

00:47:47.000 Was Trigglypuff trending?

00:47:49.000 On Twitter?

00:47:50.000 I didn't see it trending.

00:47:51.000 Someone said it was.

00:47:52.000 I didn't see it myself, but they said it was.

00:47:55.000 We're going to hear some bad stories about that young lady. 1.00

00:47:58.000 Someone at CJ Beeth asked me, do you think the hecklers added to the conversation as you had something to respond to or merely were an annoyance?

00:48:04.000 You know, this is actually a good question.

00:48:06.000 Because, you know, I mean, you've seen me do, what was the last time when I was in Battle Creek?

00:48:10.000 It was like an hour of stand-up and then another hour of Q&A. Something like that, right?

00:48:15.000 Yeah, 45-45 hour-hour, something like that.

00:48:17.000 And you've seen me do stand-up, and that's obviously my first choice.

00:48:17.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:48:21.000 And the problem is...

00:48:23.000 But going nuclear has to be close-up for you.

00:48:26.000 Right.

00:48:26.000 And the problem is, this can happen.

00:48:29.000 And it happened when I was doing stand-up and I started, when I used to do these teen shows at the Comedy Nest, where sometimes people would heckle because they wanted to see how mad I would get and go off.

00:48:39.000 The problem is that can become your shtick, and you don't want to do that.

00:48:42.000 And sometimes feel like, oh, I'm part of the show, and so they keep speaking.

00:48:46.000 No. 0.99

00:48:46.000 The rule is, if you go to a show, shut up. 0.99

00:48:49.000 Don't talk, just shut up and watch the show, because it's disrespectful to the rest of the audience. 0.99

00:48:54.000 You tell me that when I come into work on Mondays. 0.97

00:48:56.000 It's the rule here, too. 1.00

00:48:58.000 Shut up. 0.99

00:48:58.000 When you come in late wearing the wrong shirt. 0.99

00:49:03.000 It happens. 0.67

00:49:05.000 These essential oils that my wife made for me in this tea, it tastes like human urine.

00:49:11.000 I'm glad you have a reference point for that, Stephen.

00:49:13.000 Like after someone consumed asparagus.

00:49:15.000 It's the most disgusting thing.

00:49:16.000 It's supposed to be good for my throat. 0.93

00:49:17.000 You hear her yelling in the next room.

00:49:18.000 She doesn't like it.

00:49:19.000 She's not selling them.

00:49:21.000 But they do work.

00:49:22.000 I tell you what, they do work.

00:49:23.000 The essential oils.

00:49:24.000 I have no affiliation at all.

00:49:26.000 But you ever, like, the stress stuff? 0.56

00:49:29.000 It seems gay, but you know what? 0.98

00:49:31.000 Whatever. 0.95

00:49:32.000 So here's the deal with Heckler.

00:49:34.000 But every now and then, this goes back to the book that I was writing.

00:49:38.000 I think I've told the audience about this.

00:49:40.000 Eventually I'll just release the book for free.

00:49:42.000 I don't really need the money and we're pretty grateful.

00:49:44.000 So maybe I'll just release the e-book for free for those who sign up for the Mug Club as we start launching this in premium content.

00:49:51.000 It was about recognizing the two different kinds of liberals.

00:49:56.000 Now, there's a term, because I pitched this book when I was at Fox News many years ago, and the conservative publisher said, we have no interest in this.

00:50:02.000 We don't like doing anything that's funny.

00:50:04.000 Right now is the doomsday Obama books.

00:50:06.000 It needs to be scarier.

00:50:07.000 And I said, okay.

00:50:09.000 And, I mean, I want to say I've written at least three or four chapters.

00:50:13.000 And the two main ones, it's centered on the idea of recognizing what they now call aggressive leftists. 1.00

00:50:18.000 I call them American idiots. 1.00

00:50:21.000 Or the modern leftists. 1.00

00:50:22.000 This is what I called them four or five years ago.

00:50:24.000 Modern leftists versus default liberals.

00:50:27.000 And there are a lot of people in that audience who came up afterward, people wearing Bernie Sanders shirts, saying, hey, you really gave me a lot to think about.

00:50:35.000 You know, I was really, I'm glad someone finally said something to these people.

00:50:35.000 Thanks.

00:50:39.000 I'm not like them.

00:50:40.000 I'm a Democrat, but we even had a Democrat ask a question in the audience who was very, very kind.

00:50:44.000 And they said, we're not with them.

00:50:46.000 So, that's the majority. 0.97

00:50:48.000 29,000 students at U Amherst, maybe 50 showed up to be jackasses.

00:50:52.000 You need to recognize that there are a majority of people out there who can be reached, who can be convinced.

00:50:56.000 That's why I'll talk with Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan.

00:50:59.000 He's not a liberal, but we certainly disagree on some things.

00:51:02.000 You can convince those people.

00:51:03.000 And then you need to understand that there are some people, like Trigley Puff, or Tom, the Blink-182 bro tank guy, who have a vested interest in keeping the lie alive because they've made it their entire cause.

00:51:15.000 And so those people can't be convinced.

00:51:19.000 And it's about wasting energy.

00:51:21.000 Don't waste your energy.

00:51:23.000 If I got down with Trigglypuff and tried to say, hey, listen, maybe your dad never hugged you enough.

00:51:27.000 Can we please talk about this?

00:51:28.000 It would just be, yes, you!

00:51:31.000 Patriarchy! 0.99

00:51:32.000 And then she'd drink a stick of melted butter.

00:51:33.000 That's what they do.

00:51:34.000 The thing is...

00:51:35.000 That'd be a waste of time.

00:51:37.000 So what do you have to do?

00:51:38.000 In this case, the only appropriate response was to make an example of the people who couldn't be convinced in order to reach the people who were willing to listen.

00:51:48.000 And that is exactly what you saw.

00:51:50.000 Does it seem mean?

00:51:51.000 Maybe.

00:51:52.000 But the reason it's gone viral, okay, there aren't that many conservatives out there who do what we do, who see things as we see them.

00:51:59.000 There are a lot of liberals who are tired of these people too.

00:52:02.000 So, I don't want to say show up and heckle because you'll get another rant, but I do think it served a purpose here.

00:52:10.000 And this was one of those situations where I said I can't do the jokes.

00:52:13.000 I can't do stand-up.

00:52:15.000 Again, I'm not a lecturer.

00:52:16.000 I'm not somebody showing up for free like a lot of politicians or just trying to hawk books.

00:52:24.000 I have made my living since 18 years old, since the day I turned 18, performing.

00:52:29.000 That's it.

00:52:30.000 In some capacity.

00:52:31.000 It was thousands of stand-up shows.

00:52:33.000 I mean, I performed in the back of a laundromat once, an open mic, and at a Chuck E. Cheese where they rented a room for a grad party when I was in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

00:52:43.000 Just horrible, horrible shows.

00:52:46.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:52:47.000 Back with the cool shucky cheese with the robots?

00:52:49.000 No, now it's a scream.

00:52:51.000 Oh, it's terrible. 1.00

00:52:51.000 Now it sucks. 1.00

00:52:53.000 I can't go there anymore at all. 0.97

00:52:54.000 Nothing to do on Thursdays.

00:52:56.000 How was the moderator able to keep his cool, and why didn't he realize asking the crowd to shut up wasn't working?

00:53:02.000 I do respect him keeping his cool, but when I got the standing O for the intellectual diversity line, he's like, everyone, sit down, sit down.

00:53:08.000 I looked at him, and I said, no.

00:53:10.000 I said, don't.

00:53:12.000 I turned to him at one point and I said...

00:53:13.000 I turned to him while Christina Hoff Summers... 1.00

00:53:15.000 This is true.

00:53:15.000 This guy can tell you.

00:53:16.000 His name was Kyle.

00:53:18.000 Great guy.

00:53:19.000 We had dinner beforehand.

00:53:20.000 Really nice guy.

00:53:20.000 But he was uncomfortable and I don't blame him.

00:53:22.000 There were a lot of security threats.

00:53:23.000 He didn't plan on dealing with this.

00:53:25.000 I turned to him at one point while the protesters were going on and Christina Hoff Summers could not answer a question.

00:53:30.000 I looked at him and Milo and Christina can confirm this.

00:53:33.000 I looked at him and I said, Kyle!

00:53:35.000 Kyle!

00:53:35.000 He goes, yeah.

00:53:36.000 I said...

00:53:37.000 Do not even think about removing these protesters until I finish.

00:53:43.000 Take them out.

00:53:44.000 I said, let me do my thing.

00:53:46.000 Then when we go to the panel, take them to the woodshed.

00:53:48.000 Do not even think of removing them until I go up.

00:53:52.000 And he looked at me and he nodded.

00:53:53.000 But I don't think he knew it was coming.

00:53:55.000 So that was actually happened.

00:53:57.000 And then afterward, I wish they would have been removed.

00:53:58.000 But, you know, this guy doesn't have the power to.

00:54:01.000 I tell you what, the security guards.

00:54:03.000 Not necessarily conservative.

00:54:04.000 One of them told me, he's like, I'm a Democrat.

00:54:06.000 He's like, but I can't believe this.

00:54:08.000 He's like, I can't believe this.

00:54:09.000 This is just disgusting. 0.82

00:54:10.000 A lot of these people. 0.78

00:54:12.000 The beauty of this is it's really brought, you know, Andrew Breitbart said sunlight is the best disinfectant.

00:54:16.000 It really has shine a light.

00:54:19.000 Shine?

00:54:19.000 Shown?

00:54:20.000 Shown.

00:54:20.000 Shown?

00:54:21.000 Shown.

00:54:22.000 Shown is to show.

00:54:23.000 Shown-ed.

00:54:24.000 All right.

00:54:26.000 I shown-ed-ed it.

00:54:28.000 I shone it at shine it.

00:54:29.000 I shone it.

00:54:30.000 Did he just have a stroke?

00:54:31.000 No.

00:54:32.000 So, that is what happened there.

00:54:35.000 I'm sorry.

00:54:36.000 I usually don't like to talk about myself so much, but people are just lighting up the questions.

00:54:40.000 We have a couple more here to get to.

00:54:42.000 And then, obviously, when you send us some content, some of the memes, a new segment is going to be Crowderhead content of the week.

00:54:48.000 Every week, we're going to showcase your memes, videos, images.

00:54:52.000 And let me see.

00:54:53.000 We have another question.

00:54:53.000 Hold on.

00:54:54.000 Oh, people had some questions about Austin Peterson, and they wanted me to call.

00:54:59.000 Listen, full disclosure, I don't check Twitter when I'm there with a guest.

00:55:02.000 That's either not Gay Jared, you notice he's not talking, or Courtney helping me with the tweets.

00:55:07.000 It is me during the commercial break.

00:55:09.000 So with Austin Peterson, I can't read your questions while I'm on there talking with him.

00:55:13.000 People saying call him on the inconsistency of abortion and death penalty.

00:55:17.000 Listen, I agree.

00:55:18.000 I'm not necessarily super pro-death penalty.

00:55:21.000 I think whatever is the cheapest way to dispose of the trash, and unfortunately with our current court system of appeals, it's more expensive to put them to death than keep them alive.

00:55:30.000 So it's not an issue I talk about a whole lot.

00:55:34.000 If a state wants to do a death penalty, fine.

00:55:35.000 If they don't, it's not one where I get super upset, but I certainly don't think it's inconsistent for somebody to support the death penalty and not abortion.

00:55:44.000 Again, this comes down to, do you believe it's a life, and then do you believe in the idea of innocent until proven guilty?

00:55:51.000 I think that's a pretty easy one.

00:55:52.000 Is that not reasonable?

00:55:54.000 That's kind of how I feel about it.

00:55:55.000 Where do you line up on the death penalty?

00:55:56.000 Are you strong?

00:55:58.000 I always kind of grew up pro-death penalty.

00:56:01.000 Thought it was necessary.

00:56:02.000 Thought it was a good thing to, as you say, dispose of the trash.

00:56:07.000 It does come with some complications.

00:56:09.000 One thing, Bill Kriar says both shined and shown are acceptable.

00:56:11.000 Shined and shown.

00:56:12.000 Go ahead, continue.

00:56:12.000 Learn something new every day.

00:56:15.000 Just like screed.

00:56:15.000 I read the word screed earlier.

00:56:17.000 I never heard the word screed before.

00:56:18.000 Thank you for that.

00:56:19.000 Thank you for that.

00:56:20.000 Screed?

00:56:21.000 You never heard the word screed? 0.99

00:56:22.000 You're a non-intelligent person.

00:56:22.000 Never heard the screed.

00:56:23.000 Here's something.

00:56:23.000 I am.

00:56:24.000 Someone said, I want to know about your blood pressure after those rants.

00:56:27.000 I talked about this after I had knee surgery.

00:56:31.000 I actually have low blood pressure when I'm not stressed.

00:56:34.000 And I actually have...

00:56:35.000 They thought I was dead after knee surgery because my resting pulse rate for a big guy, it's under 50.

00:56:40.000 It was 46.

00:56:41.000 And every time I would go below 50 when I was in the hospital...

00:56:44.000 Like they thought I was going to die.

00:56:46.000 I'm actually in pretty good shape.

00:56:46.000 I'm going, no, no, no.

00:56:48.000 Despite the Dan Aykroyd chin, look at this.

00:56:51.000 Let's make a gif of that.

00:56:52.000 I'm like one of those puffer fishes.

00:56:55.000 That is going to be used against me.

00:56:58.000 Like the union punch.

00:56:59.000 Oh, by the way, someone asking, were you as afraid of this event as the union event?

00:57:03.000 Same vibe going in.

00:57:05.000 Hillary, my wife, can tell you.

00:57:06.000 We sat and we prayed over it.

00:57:08.000 There were a lot of threats.

00:57:09.000 Obviously, there was more security in this.

00:57:13.000 Listen, not to toot my own horn.

00:57:15.000 Some people will say tout.

00:57:16.000 They'll correct me.

00:57:17.000 But I've gone into the lion's den for many, many years.

00:57:20.000 This isn't a new thing for me.

00:57:21.000 It's not a trend.

00:57:22.000 I hope I've paid my dues and you've come to trust the program.

00:57:26.000 And we issue corrections.

00:57:27.000 It's right up there with marching up the Capitol steps, I imagine, in a bill costume.

00:57:30.000 In a bill costume.

00:57:31.000 Right there.

00:57:32.000 Gosh, we have so many questions.

00:57:32.000 It is right.

00:57:34.000 I'm wondering if we should keep answering questions.

00:57:35.000 Let me know on Twitter, at S. Crowder.

00:57:37.000 Do you want me to talk more news of the week?

00:57:39.000 Fiorina Cruz, or do you want me to answer your very intimate questions regarding the UMass hysteria?

00:57:46.000 You're the viewer.

00:57:47.000 A lot of you watching right now online and listening.

00:57:49.000 You decide.

00:57:50.000 Tweet me at S. Crowder.

00:57:51.000 That will determine the next segment before Superman himself, Dean Cain.

00:57:55.000 By the way, I did stuff with him.

00:57:57.000 A lot of with Crowder.

00:57:57.000 Crider, stay tuned.

00:57:58.000 And now for Tales from Canada's Mounted Police, Lena Dunham edition.

00:58:24.000 *Music* Hey there, mister.

00:58:32.000 Welcome to Canada, eh?

00:58:33.000 Please, your license and passport.

00:58:35.000 I'm not a miss, sir.

00:58:37.000 Oh, I'm so sorry.

00:58:38.000 I didn't mean to offend you, Miss...

00:58:40.000 Dunham.

00:58:42.000 Hold on just about one moment, okay?

00:58:47.000 Hey, Tim.

00:58:48.000 Hey, Tim.

00:58:49.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:58:50.000 Darn it, it's her, eh? 1.00

00:58:52.000 Darn it, it's Lena Dunham. 1.00

00:58:52.000 What? 1.00

00:58:53.000 She's here, you know? 1.00

00:58:54.000 Ah, son of a f**k! 1.00

00:58:56.000 I know, I know. 1.00

00:58:56.000 What do I do about it? 1.00

00:58:57.000 Ask her a business in Canada.

00:58:59.000 Okay, okay.

00:59:01.000 Miss Dunham, what is your business in Canada?

00:59:04.000 Well, I might have to move here because Donald Trump might be elected and I might move to Canada.

00:59:11.000 Okay.

00:59:12.000 Yeah, that's illegal, you know.

00:59:13.000 We can't let you do that.

00:59:14.000 What?

00:59:15.000 I don't know.

00:59:16.000 It's against some law there somewhere.

00:59:17.000 What law?

00:59:19.000 Okay, hold on a second.

00:59:22.000 Tim, I don't know what to do about it.

00:59:24.000 She wants to know what law?

00:59:26.000 I don't know.

00:59:26.000 Make up one.

00:59:27.000 She's not a Rhodes Scholar.

00:59:28.000 Tell her maritime law.

00:59:30.000 Okay, okay.

00:59:32.000 Sorry about that, Ms.

00:59:33.000 Dunham.

00:59:33.000 It's actually a violation of maritime law.

00:59:37.000 Oh, that sounds pretty serious.

00:59:39.000 Yeah, I know.

00:59:40.000 My hands are tied, you know.

00:59:41.000 Can I see documentation on that?

00:59:44.000 Uh...

00:59:45.000 Hold on a sec.

00:59:46.000 We'll be right back.

00:59:47.000 Stay tuned for more tales from Canada's Mounted Police.

00:59:57.000 Lain of Denim Edition.

01:00:27.000 Fans or join the mailing list.

01:00:29.000 There are so many ways for you to stay connected.

01:00:31.000 You have no excuse.

01:00:32.000 You have no excuse just like you have no excuse for those roles that are just cascading over your belt buckle.

01:00:39.000 You should be ashamed.

01:00:40.000 Unless you're a lady. 1.00

01:00:41.000 Then you deserve a medal.

01:00:41.000 Get her a medal.

01:00:42.000 All right.

01:01:08.000 Glad to be back.

01:01:09.000 They heard that.

01:01:11.000 Okay, so people were saying, let me split the difference.

01:01:13.000 On Twitter, it's going nuts right now.

01:01:14.000 People want to hear more about UMass.

01:01:17.000 News of the week, real quick.

01:01:19.000 We're going to talk about Amy Schumer afterwards.

01:01:20.000 She released a sketch.

01:01:21.000 I think a lot of people missed it on Comedy Central.

01:01:23.000 Huge irony that she missed in trying to bash Republicans. 0.94

01:01:27.000 People asked me...

01:01:30.000 Have I gotten to the point, because I've defended her in the realm of comedy, saying I think she can be funny, and now she's gone full social justice leftist.

01:01:36.000 People said, is she at the point where you're willing to say that she's not funny? 0.99

01:01:38.000 I would say so.

01:01:40.000 I don't think she's funny anymore.

01:01:42.000 Amy Schumer?

01:01:42.000 Yeah.

01:01:43.000 I watched, and I was tweeting about it.

01:01:43.000 You know what I watched?

01:01:45.000 I watched Trainwreck the other day.

01:01:46.000 So did I.

01:01:46.000 The other day?

01:01:47.000 Just a couple days ago?

01:01:47.000 I watched it, yeah, just on HBO.

01:01:49.000 Yeah, it was actually a pretty funny movie if you remove Amy Schumer 100%.

01:01:54.000 Yeah, I know.

01:01:55.000 It was Bill Hader and LeBron.

01:01:55.000 It would have been great.

01:01:57.000 They were funny.

01:01:57.000 And so was John Cena was pretty funny.

01:01:59.000 John Cena was pretty funny, actually.

01:02:00.000 Pretty funny.

01:02:01.000 I actually thought that was pretty funny. 1.00

01:02:03.000 But again, the whole thing is I'm a dirty slut, truck stop. 0.99

01:02:06.000 By the way, I will say this. 0.99

01:02:07.000 I think we might have him on the show next week.

01:02:10.000 I don't want to prematurely say, but there might be something in the works with us working together.

01:02:16.000 Comedian Nick DiPaolo retweeted the UMass event and sent me a very nice message.

01:02:20.000 And I will say this.

01:02:22.000 There are a few crowning achievements in my life.

01:02:24.000 People are tweeting me.

01:02:25.000 They're talking about you on Fox News.

01:02:26.000 First of all, scoring me.

01:02:27.000 Yes.

01:02:27.000 Full time.

01:02:28.000 Yes.

01:02:29.000 Scoring you, not scoring with you.

01:02:30.000 Two bucks an hour.

01:02:30.000 Let's correct this.

01:02:31.000 Go ahead.

01:02:36.000 So, people are saying, oh, they're talking about you on Fox News and CNN, this UMass thing.

01:02:40.000 And I was going, oh, great, they're only 48 hours late.

01:02:42.000 I don't care.

01:02:43.000 I genuinely couldn't care less.

01:02:44.000 I have no interest in that.

01:02:45.000 But when Dennis Miller or Mark Stein or Nick DiPaolo, people who I've looked up to, Nick DiPaolo is possibly the greatest comedian ever.

01:02:53.000 Ever.

01:02:54.000 I would put him right up there.

01:02:55.000 Him and Bill Burr I would put right up there as some of the best ever, living or dead.

01:03:00.000 Nick DiPaolo is the quintessential perfect club comic.

01:03:03.000 Now, does that mean he would be like a daily show host?

01:03:05.000 I don't know.

01:03:06.000 I don't know if he could do much acting.

01:03:08.000 Probably not, because you see him and it's just, oh my god, this is Nick DiPaolo.

01:03:12.000 And you want him to be Nick DiPaolo.

01:03:13.000 And he's the best ever at just going after hecklers.

01:03:17.000 So that was really nice.

01:03:19.000 And we might have him on the show sometime soon.

01:03:20.000 So I don't know what my point was there.

01:03:22.000 I was talking about something.

01:03:24.000 Some of the stuff, big plans maybe coming up.

01:03:26.000 Yeah, we can't talk about them.

01:03:27.000 There might be some big plans for Lauder with Crowder coming up here that you may get a lot more than you bargained for, and then you might not like us anymore.

01:03:36.000 So let's talk about News of the Week real quick, and then we'll get to your questions, because, oh my gosh, the phone lines, the Twitter lines are lighting up.

01:03:41.000 Ted Cruz picked Carly Fiorina as VP. Everyone knows I love Carly Fiorina. 0.99

01:03:46.000 I've been open about it.

01:03:47.000 I think she's great.

01:03:48.000 Yeah, you get a little bit of crush.

01:03:49.000 She was my number one pick.

01:03:50.000 She was my number one draft pick. 0.85

01:03:52.000 So am I happy about that?

01:03:54.000 Yes.

01:03:54.000 Do I think it helps Ted Cruz?

01:03:55.000 Probably not.

01:03:56.000 Because they've tarred and feathered her as establishment, Rhino, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:04:00.000 So that's what Donald Trump will do with...

01:04:02.000 But then you got John Boehner coming out.

01:04:04.000 Was it today or yesterday?

01:04:06.000 Ted Cruz was Lucifer.

01:04:08.000 He said that a while ago, though, but he said that again.

01:04:11.000 So John Boehner...

01:04:12.000 When you write out material, you've got to kind of recycle it.

01:04:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:04:15.000 John Boehner saying Ted Cruz is Lucifer.

01:04:17.000 Listen, if you want to talk about anti-establishment, when John Boehner says that you, a Republican, are Lucifer...

01:04:22.000 You're doing something right.

01:04:23.000 I can't think of a more ringing endorsement than that.

01:04:26.000 So, I love Carly Fiorina.

01:04:28.000 Here's one thing I will say, Carly Fiorina and Senator Ted Cruz, they've been on the program.

01:04:31.000 A lot of people get gun-shy, right?

01:04:33.000 Because same thing like social justice warriors, you get the same thing with old Republicans, who when they see guests on our show and the very next segment is spot the tranny, they message them and they get gun-shy to come back. 0.96

01:04:43.000 Listen, right now, we're very blessed, but if you are a Republican candidate, a conservative candidate, and you want to hit that demographic of people who are under the age of 40, our average viewer listener is a 28-year-old, typically male, you need to come through here.

01:04:59.000 And I will say this, for the alt-right, they're right about this.

01:05:03.000 Even though the numbers don't bear out, and Donald Trump is immensely unpopular with millennials, two, Carly Fiorina and Senator Ted Cruz, Maybe not me.

01:05:20.000 Maybe not me.

01:05:30.000 Maybe go on Joe Rogan.

01:05:31.000 Maybe go on Adam Carolla.

01:05:33.000 It doesn't have to be me.

01:05:35.000 I think our show is that we provided a really valuable launching pad.

01:05:39.000 I mean, people who saw the Ted Cruz interview and Carly Fiorina, when you add it up across iTunes and YouTube, were half a million people.

01:05:44.000 That's not a ton.

01:05:45.000 It's more than CNN. But they stayed for an average of 32 minutes.

01:05:49.000 A 28-year-old male.

01:05:51.000 That can affect a big outcome.

01:05:54.000 So...

01:05:55.000 I really like Carly Fiorina. 0.95

01:05:57.000 Obviously I like Ted Cruz.

01:05:59.000 Do I think it'll help him?

01:06:00.000 I don't know.

01:06:01.000 And man, I just wish they managed their campaign more properly.

01:06:03.000 Whereas Donald Trump, he does a great job of courting people online.

01:06:07.000 He has smart people working for him.

01:06:10.000 Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina often abandon them.

01:06:12.000 And I'm telling you, sorry, there are only so many corn husking Christian conservatives in that baby boomer generation who can carry you to an election, and I don't think there are enough. 1.00

01:06:20.000 So that's my take on that.

01:06:21.000 When it comes back to UMass questions, because then we have to get to Dean Cain, right?

01:06:24.000 Dean Cain.

01:06:26.000 Have you heard the ban social justice from university's petition?

01:06:29.000 What's your stance on it?

01:06:30.000 Yeah, no, I've heard it.

01:06:31.000 It was from Sargon of a Cat, and I support it. 1.00

01:06:33.000 I think that's a good question, a fair question.

01:06:36.000 Please answer the Twitter questions.

01:06:39.000 Did you just say your wife's name was Hillary? 0.96

01:06:41.000 Yes, but she's good Hillary. 1.00

01:06:42.000 And with one L. With one L. Yes.

01:06:46.000 Big difference.

01:06:47.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:06:48.000 It is a huge difference.

01:06:50.000 Gosh, all my good questions got just buried now under the Twitter feed.

01:06:54.000 Oh, here you go.

01:06:56.000 Michael J. Hout.

01:06:57.000 Thank you so much, Michael.

01:06:58.000 He says, I would like to hear you discuss the UMass event more.

01:07:02.000 I was a Democratic student who asked the second question.

01:07:05.000 You're going to hear this.

01:07:05.000 I'm going to tweet.

01:07:06.000 Answering now, all caps, Michael.

01:07:12.000 Thank you.

01:07:13.000 This guy actually was there.

01:07:14.000 He asked a question.

01:07:15.000 He's a Democrat.

01:07:16.000 And I don't remember what his question was.

01:07:18.000 I think it was about political correctness, the one I answered.

01:07:20.000 But he said, I don't.

01:07:22.000 This doesn't represent me.

01:07:23.000 And afterward, he had me come up, sign his book, and we spoke.

01:07:26.000 And if you watch the panel...

01:07:29.000 Everyone was nice.

01:07:30.000 I mean, I said, hey, give a round of applause for Michael.

01:07:32.000 And it wasn't to try and pander.

01:07:33.000 Obviously, I'd just gotten done, you know, just scorching earth with the other people there.

01:07:38.000 But I just realized this aromatherapy is going on.

01:07:41.000 I don't know if it's coming on the camera.

01:07:42.000 But this guy was simply wrong.

01:07:44.000 I mean, I'm willing to go on Dave Rubin's show.

01:07:47.000 I have no problem speaking with someone with a differing opinion.

01:07:50.000 So, Michael J. Hout, thank you for showing up on my Twitter timeline.

01:07:53.000 And, yeah, there's also a petition now.

01:07:55.000 We're going to release a piece online where people were actually retroactively saying I should have never been there.

01:08:00.000 And I have the letter in front of me.

01:08:02.000 Oh, I saw it.

01:08:03.000 That was great. 0.92

01:08:04.000 And it said, even though the guy yelled out, he was exercising free speech, it doesn't give Stephen the right to call him an androgynous amoeba.

01:08:10.000 Like, what kind of an adult, right?

01:08:11.000 It's just, there's something about an adult complaining about an insult in writing that just, like, you just feel like they need to be keel-hauled.

01:08:20.000 But the punchline for me was the fact, sign so-and-so, communications.

01:08:24.000 Communications!

01:08:26.000 Oh my god.

01:08:27.000 Michael, thank you.

01:08:28.000 We need to get you on the show, Michael.

01:08:30.000 Thank you, Democrat from UMass.

01:08:31.000 We need more people like you.

01:08:32.000 If you want to come on the show, let's get in touch.

01:08:34.000 Louder with Crowder, Superman, Dean Cain after this.

01:08:37.000 We now return you to a live debate between Mark Levin and the black guy.

01:08:54.000 Thank you. 0.99

01:08:55.000 All right, you dope! 1.00

01:08:57.000 You dummy! 1.00

01:08:58.000 I know where you're coming from! 1.00

01:08:59.000 Black lives matter!

01:09:00.000 Black lives matter!

01:09:01.000 I'm trying to make a point here. 1.00

01:09:03.000 If you would shut your mouth up and listen! 1.00

01:09:05.000 You're a homophobe! 1.00

01:09:06.000 And you're a bigot! 1.00

01:09:08.000 And you hate black people! 1.00

01:09:10.000 Oh, you big jerk! 1.00

01:09:11.000 You dummy! 1.00

01:09:12.000 You're not even going to listen to what I have to say! 1.00

01:09:13.000 You dope! 1.00

01:09:14.000 I want you to kill a black guy for no reason! 1.00

01:09:17.000 You don't... 1.00

01:09:17.000 What? 1.00

01:09:20.000 We'll update you as these debates unfold.

01:09:23.000 We'll be right back.

01:09:53.000 We'll be right back.

01:09:59.000 And you hear the song, you know who it is.

01:09:59.000 Yes, he has.

01:10:01.000 If not, Gay Jared can get to the soundboard quick enough. 0.99

01:10:05.000 Can we have it?

01:10:06.000 Yeah.

01:10:10.000 That's them playing over each other, but you get the idea.

01:10:12.000 We get the idea.

01:10:13.000 You get the idea.

01:10:14.000 It's a beautiful song for a beautiful man, Dean Cain.

01:10:16.000 Thank you for being with us, sir.

01:10:19.000 Oh gosh, now Not Gay Jared ruined your intro.

01:10:22.000 Sorry, thank you for being with us, sir.

01:10:24.000 Aw, Jared, Not Gay Jared. 1.00

01:10:26.000 Get on the ball. 0.99

01:10:27.000 You have to fire me again.

01:10:29.000 Fire me again.

01:10:30.000 Yeah, I think you might have to get fired.

01:10:31.000 I don't want to have to sing again, but it might happen.

01:10:33.000 Well, actually, you know what?

01:10:34.000 People really liked your performance in the firing of Not K. Jared.

01:10:37.000 They were pretty happy with it.

01:10:39.000 So, for people who want to follow him, RealDeanCain on Twitter in the Gosnell movie.

01:10:43.000 Now, when's the Gosnell movie coming out?

01:10:45.000 You know what?

01:10:46.000 I'm just an actor.

01:10:46.000 I don't know the answer to that question, but I know it's coming out soon because I've done the ADR for it, so it's the next step of getting there.

01:10:53.000 So I'm imagining within the next few months.

01:10:56.000 It's a heck of a movie.

01:10:57.000 I think it's pretty good.

01:10:58.000 Well, we've had Anne and Philemon, and gosh, that's the kind of thing where I thank God for the internet and being able to bypass studio executives these days with crowdfunding because there's no way that would have been made 10 years ago.

01:11:09.000 No.

01:11:11.000 I'm surprised it got made now.

01:11:12.000 Yeah, I am surprised as well.

01:11:14.000 So I wanted to talk about this.

01:11:16.000 We'll get to news of the day, but last time we had you on, you did mention, you know, you were socially liberal, fiscally conservative, but you've been in some of these Christian-themed films.

01:11:26.000 So where does that line up personally?

01:11:27.000 Your faith?

01:11:28.000 Are you agnostic?

01:11:29.000 Are you more like a federalist, like Ted Cruz, where you're personally Christian, but, like, depends on the state laws?

01:11:36.000 I want to give you as much leeway as possible.

01:11:38.000 Fair enough.

01:11:39.000 Federalists are never defined like that.

01:11:39.000 Wow.

01:11:42.000 For me, I wasn't raised very religiously.

01:11:45.000 I look at religion as a positive thing when it does positive things for people.

01:11:51.000 I like my son having a good knowledge of the Bible and a good understanding of the Bible.

01:11:56.000 I studied all the major world religions in college.

01:11:59.000 For how much you study in college.

01:12:00.000 Right, yeah, that's true.

01:12:02.000 You were too busy wrecking people in the football field.

01:12:04.000 That was fun.

01:12:05.000 Football was a fun thing.

01:12:06.000 I still have my president's shirt on now.

01:12:08.000 Oh, there you go. 0.99

01:12:08.000 Good Lord, you are an animal. 0.99

01:12:10.000 For me, choosing to do a faith-based movie is no different than choosing to do any other type of film.

01:12:16.000 I enjoy them because they usually have a message and they say some things that make sense in life, morality and so on and so forth.

01:12:24.000 But I don't specifically pick them because I'm pushing Christianity on anybody in any way, shape or form. 0.86

01:12:29.000 Do you think a part of it too is just because it sounds like you're more open-minded to all sides and a lot of people in the industry would not touch a Christian film with a 10-foot pole?

01:12:39.000 Yeah, well, you know, there's a lot of things like that that people have set up these walls, if you will, whether they wouldn't go do a Christian film or they wouldn't play gay in a film or to do this.

01:12:50.000 I've never listened to that convention.

01:12:51.000 I've always just decided based on the merit of the project and as an artist, someone who gets to make movies and do this, I think it's great to be able to play against type or play different kinds of roles.

01:13:02.000 I've played gay in a number of films.

01:13:05.000 I've played just all kinds of different characters, and I like that.

01:13:08.000 It doesn't necessarily mean that's who I am or what I represent, but I think it's nice to be able to play all different things.

01:13:14.000 I'm not going to be held at convention.

01:13:15.000 That can be a word-tangle soundbite. 0.83

01:13:18.000 I played gay.

01:13:19.000 I am that. 0.76

01:13:19.000 I like it. 0.76

01:13:20.000 That's what someone's going to sniff together.

01:13:21.000 That very well be a word to Angle Sam.

01:13:23.000 Shame on you.

01:13:24.000 It is true.

01:13:25.000 You shame on both of us.

01:13:26.000 Okay, speaking of walls, I'm going to tell you about the wall.

01:13:29.000 Last time you talked about how you really liked Carly Fiorina.

01:13:32.000 So it's looking more and more like she's the VP pick for Cruz.

01:13:36.000 When you heard this, were you excited?

01:13:38.000 Have you made up your mind right now on who you're supporting?

01:13:42.000 About three months ago, I was sure in my brain that I wanted to see a Cruz Villarana ticket, and that would get my vote.

01:13:48.000 Okay, so that's like your dream ticket coming to life.

01:13:51.000 That's my dream ticket of the current candidates.

01:13:53.000 I'm not going to say anybody's a particular dream in this presidential election.

01:13:58.000 My world is a dream.

01:14:01.000 I don't agree with Ted or Carly on every issue, but I line up with them a lot more than I do some of the others.

01:14:08.000 So I think they're a great, powerful team.

01:14:10.000 I think we'd be in great shape if they were elected.

01:14:13.000 You know, I agree with you.

01:14:14.000 I think it might hurt him because people have sort of painted her as this rhino establishment, but that's the attack that's used against anyone.

01:14:20.000 So I know, obviously, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, but contrasting with Trump, you line up significantly more with that ticket than a Trump.

01:14:29.000 I think a Trump ticket is Trump Trump.

01:14:31.000 I think he's going to fill both slots.

01:14:33.000 Can he do that?

01:14:34.000 Can he be his own VP? He can, yeah.

01:14:36.000 He can.

01:14:36.000 He can change convention.

01:14:37.000 You know what?

01:14:38.000 Listen, I like what he's done to the race. 0.99

01:14:40.000 I like that his frank talk is done to the race and such, but I just don't know that I want him to be my commander-in-chief, President of the United States.

01:14:47.000 I just don't know that he feels like the guy.

01:14:50.000 I think Cruz, to me, is the guy.

01:14:54.000 It's a really interesting election cycle.

01:14:57.000 When I'm over in Europe, I've been in Europe a lot lately, and they're shocked by the idea of Trump being in the position he's in.

01:15:04.000 They're just sort of shocked by the whole thing.

01:15:06.000 I don't know.

01:15:07.000 You have to have a certain telegenetic look.

01:15:10.000 You've got to speak in soundbites.

01:15:12.000 I mean, Ted Cruz, for as much as I love the things he says, he does look like the Grandpa Munster.

01:15:18.000 He does.

01:15:19.000 Eddie Munster's grandpa, I put those pictures side by side.

01:15:23.000 If not Gay Jarrett, could you just throw it up there for me? 0.99

01:15:24.000 I'd be so happy.

01:15:25.000 We could do it in post, I guess.

01:15:27.000 That or a little bit of Kevin from The Office.

01:15:30.000 Just look at the two of them.

01:15:31.000 That is literally the reincarnation of Grandpa Munster.

01:15:34.000 I know, and it is a problem.

01:15:35.000 It can come across prefab.

01:15:37.000 We've talked about that, too, with the delivery with Ted Cruz.

01:15:40.000 But, man, in Hollywood, that's the hardest guy to support.

01:15:43.000 You can kind of support Donald Trump because there's a lot of ties there, right?

01:15:46.000 And he's sort of bombastic.

01:15:47.000 People go, well, okay, I get it.

01:15:49.000 It's sort of a protest candidate, and we don't think he's that conservative.

01:15:52.000 But Ted Cruz in Hollywood, that is a way to dig your heels in.

01:15:57.000 If you say that to your friends, how upset with you do they get?

01:16:00.000 Uh, they get upset, but we'll discuss issues, talk about things, and then they're not as upset.

01:16:06.000 And, you know, and that always cracks me up when they start talking about, well, we don't want to hear an actor talk about politics.

01:16:11.000 Anybody can talk politics.

01:16:12.000 If you think there's no interest in politics, I always say politics have an interest in you, so you better pay attention.

01:16:17.000 This is true.

01:16:18.000 My dad always said the two things people say, don't discuss religion and politics, the two things that matter and largely define who you are, even if you're against religion.

01:16:25.000 It still defines you then at that point.

01:16:28.000 Absolutely.

01:16:28.000 These are the things that shape our world.

01:16:30.000 Yeah, I mean, you say that you discuss the issues and then they get less mad.

01:16:35.000 I'm going to call BS on that.

01:16:36.000 I don't think that any of the left in the entertainment industry, I don't think that you have this discussion and you bring a lot of them to your way of thinking.

01:16:41.000 I think that people who are like, well, I guess maybe Hillary, they can kind of be brought along the trail, but in the entertainment industry, they were so vitriolic.

01:16:49.000 And they have a vested interest, right, in this sort of bubble being kept in pristine working order.

01:16:56.000 Do you really feel like a lot of people in the entertainment industry can be swayed?

01:17:00.000 Oh, I don't think they can be swayed so much as they will just tolerate my opinion.

01:17:05.000 That's because you're Dean Cain and you flash him a smile and they tolerate it.

01:17:08.000 I might thump him.

01:17:08.000 Let's be honest.

01:17:09.000 That's it.

01:17:10.000 What I find is that they will – they get so angry sometimes when we're having a conversation.

01:17:15.000 They can't even have the conversation.

01:17:17.000 They don't want to have the conversation. 0.80

01:17:19.000 That to me is just the ultimate hypocrisy. 0.99

01:17:21.000 It's like, look, if you're claiming to be so open and so inclusive and all this but you won't listen to another opinion – Aren't you basically being a total hypocrite? 0.99

01:17:31.000 Well, yes. 0.96

01:17:32.000 I don't think they will answer that question.

01:17:34.000 I think they'll move on down the trail to the next executive.

01:17:36.000 Speaking of which, okay, this is something that's always interested me.

01:17:38.000 You know, Hillary, the Clintons were Hollywood's darlings, and then they kind of turned on her for Barack Obama. 1.00

01:17:43.000 And even if you look at the entertainment industry, the majority of them turned on Hillary for Bernie. 1.00

01:17:48.000 When it came down to the wire, like, ah, we just can't.

01:17:51.000 Have you felt that being out there in L.A., working in Hollywood, where it was kind of assumed it was going to be Hillary, and a lot of people just going... 0.97

01:17:59.000 Man, I just think this woman's a witch on wheels. 1.00

01:18:01.000 I can't do it. 0.95

01:18:03.000 I haven't noticed that much because people aren't talking about it that much.

01:18:07.000 They really aren't.

01:18:07.000 They're not saying who they're going to support.

01:18:09.000 They keep politics pretty quiet.

01:18:11.000 But, I mean, Bernie Sanders is a democratic socialist.

01:18:16.000 He's a socialist.

01:18:17.000 This is the United States of America.

01:18:20.000 I cannot wrap my head around the fact that he's gotten any votes, any support.

01:18:24.000 I just don't get it.

01:18:26.000 Well, I don't want to out you, but that's because you're a little older than the people who are voting.

01:18:31.000 A little older.

01:18:32.000 A little.

01:18:32.000 Listen, if we can age as well as you, we'd be very fortunate, but...

01:18:36.000 You know, you have a lot of people, 47%, who don't pay federal income tax at all.

01:18:39.000 Of course, that includes all college students.

01:18:41.000 I mean, I don't know if you just saw this this week.

01:18:43.000 I was there at UMass with Milo and Christine Hoff Summers, and we just got shouted down.

01:18:48.000 They were just yelling us off the stage, and they said, you're not our guest.

01:18:51.000 We don't want you here.

01:18:52.000 And to me, it's crazy that these kids don't want to pay for school, but then they want to shout down the groups that actually do pay to bring in guests.

01:18:59.000 I've never seen a generation more entitled, and those are the people voting Bernie.

01:19:03.000 So...

01:19:04.000 Yeah, well, I completely agree with you.

01:19:06.000 That's insane.

01:19:08.000 And if I were a parent of any of those kids, first of all, my son would never do that, just because I've raised him differently.

01:19:16.000 He would listen to someone who had an opinion that differed from his, and he'd respect them and listen to what they have to say and disagree with them all he wants.

01:19:22.000 But to shout you down is insane.

01:19:24.000 Well, it's just that they don't believe in freedom of speech.

01:19:26.000 Now, do you have these discussions with your son?

01:19:27.000 Like, do you know where your son lines up politically, or is he sort of apathetic?

01:19:31.000 No, he's behind Dad.

01:19:33.000 This is the way it is.

01:19:35.000 He agrees with Dad's opinion.

01:19:37.000 He sees me watching the news and talking to him.

01:19:40.000 I talk to the news.

01:19:41.000 I'm like, oh, come on, because blah, blah, blah, and then they'll say something similar to that, and I'll say, that person's this, and I don't know.

01:19:46.000 And he hears it, and he, because he has to eat.

01:19:51.000 Oh, come on now. 0.98

01:19:52.000 No, you seem like a dad.

01:19:54.000 If he decided to go off the beaten path there for a little bit and go full socialist, you'd probably be upset.

01:20:01.000 I'd take away his car.

01:20:03.000 There you go.

01:20:04.000 Well, Dean Cain taking away your car, there is motivation.

01:20:06.000 Is he in college yet, or is he going to go into college?

01:20:08.000 No, he's in 10th grade.

01:20:09.000 He's just getting a car.

01:20:10.000 Okay.

01:20:11.000 But I would explain to him that this isn't a socialist household, and so that doesn't work.

01:20:17.000 He can work for his money to make a car, and suddenly he wouldn't be a socialist anymore.

01:20:20.000 No, this is true.

01:20:21.000 Well, do you do allowance in the household at that age?

01:20:24.000 How does that work with a 10th grader?

01:20:25.000 Did you get allowance?

01:20:26.000 No, I just get money.

01:20:27.000 He doesn't need money for real money.

01:20:28.000 No, I still don't get paid for much.

01:20:29.000 This is true.

01:20:31.000 I wonder, because I worked as an actor starting at 12, and so at that point there was no more allowance.

01:20:37.000 I was allowed a certain amount of it, and then the rest of it when I was 18.

01:20:40.000 But I wonder what Dean Cain does with his son.

01:20:43.000 So when he needs it, you just kind of give it to him?

01:20:44.000 Just give it to him.

01:20:45.000 He doesn't need much money.

01:20:46.000 The kid doesn't do a whole lot that needs money.

01:20:49.000 Occasionally it's an Uber because I can't pick him up someplace, something like that, so that's not part of it.

01:20:53.000 That's just a ride to this or that, the other thing.

01:20:55.000 But he doesn't spend any money.

01:20:56.000 He doesn't spend money on anything.

01:20:57.000 He doesn't like things.

01:20:58.000 He's got computers.

01:20:59.000 He doesn't like things?

01:21:01.000 He's got what he needs.

01:21:03.000 He's not a serial kid.

01:21:04.000 Right.

01:21:05.000 Well, that's good, especially being in an industry in an area of the country that is so vain.

01:21:10.000 What are you going to do, though, when it comes to college?

01:21:13.000 Because this is an insane time sending your son to college, which is really just a social justice leftist factory.

01:21:20.000 Do you dread that?

01:21:22.000 How are you going to handle it?

01:21:23.000 That would be a problem for me.

01:21:25.000 My son right now is still debating whether he wants to go to college.

01:21:28.000 And he's in a school where 99% of the kids go to college, if not 100% last year.

01:21:33.000 So he's in a college prep place.

01:21:35.000 If he doesn't want to go to college, he ain't going to college.

01:21:39.000 I'm not going to force him to go there.

01:21:40.000 I certainly listen to the way things are being...

01:21:42.000 Like you just said, the way the kids are being taught, the things they're hearing, he wouldn't be going to...

01:21:50.000 To one of those schools.

01:21:51.000 Let's just put it that way.

01:21:52.000 So maybe like a state school or something like that?

01:21:55.000 Yeah, he's looking at Pepperdine, which is right nearby me, and things like that, which is good.

01:21:58.000 Yeah, but they even banned a friend of mine, Brad Stein, for saying that forks were better than chopsticks.

01:22:05.000 They said it was offensive.

01:22:06.000 It was ethnocentric towards Chinese people.

01:22:10.000 Well, Japanese people use chopsticks too. 0.99

01:22:12.000 I don't know.

01:22:13.000 Oh, you're going to use your Asian privilege here and let me know. 0.96

01:22:17.000 We get it. 0.98

01:22:18.000 Check your white privilege. 0.61

01:22:20.000 This is true.

01:22:21.000 Well, come on.

01:22:22.000 At your height and size, there can't be that much Asian in you. 1.00

01:22:25.000 No one's buying it.

01:22:27.000 That's what my brother always says.

01:22:30.000 But yeah, they banned someone for saying that at Pepperdine.

01:22:32.000 So even at Pepperdine, they get along that trail.

01:22:34.000 That's insane.

01:22:35.000 That's insane that you cannot do that to free speech.

01:22:38.000 That's the whole point of free speech.

01:22:39.000 It should make you uncomfortable.

01:22:40.000 I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me.

01:22:42.000 And my son, just that way, he'll speak.

01:22:44.000 Right.

01:22:45.000 Like it or not.

01:22:46.000 Well, and Pepperdine is actually, it's a nice university.

01:22:47.000 It's a nice campus.

01:22:48.000 It's out there in Malibu.

01:22:49.000 He can be close to Dad.

01:22:51.000 So you can make sure he's not, you know, doing some social studies and then banging rocks when he's out of there.

01:22:57.000 So let's keep Mr.

01:22:58.000 Cain for, oh, we have 30 seconds?

01:23:00.000 Gosh, Don K. Jared is messing up the countdowns, Dean.

01:23:03.000 Oh, come on, Don K. Jared.

01:23:04.000 That's what I do.

01:23:06.000 Kind of my thing.

01:23:07.000 It's been a real problem with you lately.

01:23:09.000 Actually, I was on time, this one.

01:23:11.000 This is your inner clock. 0.72

01:23:12.000 It should be a cautionary tale, Dean, where you tell your son, here, this is what happens when you don't do things correctly, and just send him this show and not gay Jared. 0.93

01:23:20.000 And just say, that's what it is.

01:23:22.000 I didn't finish college.

01:23:23.000 This is what happens when you don't finish college.

01:23:25.000 Well...

01:23:25.000 You didn't finish college!

01:23:26.000 Yeah, I didn't.

01:23:27.000 I did not.

01:23:28.000 Probably shouldn't even be gone.

01:23:31.000 You need to get your money back.

01:23:33.000 Alright, we are going to have to go to a break here.

01:23:35.000 Dean Cain, stay tuned.

01:23:36.000 to you in Ladder with Crowder.

01:23:37.000 And now for Tales from Canada's Mounted Police, Lena Dunham Edition. - Bye.

01:24:03.000 Tim!

01:24:04.000 Tim!

01:24:05.000 She asked me for documentation on that maritime law, eh? 1.00

01:24:08.000 Ah, son of a moose, c**k! 1.00

01:24:10.000 Just get rid of her, eh? 1.00

01:24:11.000 Till you have to pull her aside and strip search her if she didn't go back. 1.00

01:24:14.000 Okay, okay.

01:24:17.000 Okay, sorry, Miss Dunham.

01:24:18.000 While we're getting that documentation, if you wouldn't mind pulling aside to get into Canada, it's a new policy.

01:24:24.000 You know, we have to strip search everybody. 0.99

01:24:26.000 Oh my god, are you guys going to try and rape me? 1.00

01:24:29.000 What? 1.00

01:24:29.000 No! 1.00

01:24:30.000 Hold on, okay... 1.00

01:24:33.000 Tim, she's saying we're gonna try and rape her now! 1.00

01:24:35.000 Ah, beaver dick! 1.00

01:24:37.000 The last thing we need is to be on CBC, you know? 1.00

01:24:40.000 Yeah, I know, but she seems pretty dead set on telling everyone we're gonna rape her, you know? 0.97

01:24:44.000 You know all about how it works. 0.85

01:24:45.000 If you don't follow through, they're never gonna believe your threats, so...

01:24:48.000 You gotta do it, you know?

01:24:53.000 Hi, Ms.

01:24:54.000 Dunham.

01:24:54.000 Yeah, thanks for waiting, and we're going to have to have you pull over to the side.

01:24:58.000 But just to be clear, you know, nobody is talking about rape.

01:25:02.000 I don't know.

01:25:04.000 Everything's rape to me.

01:25:05.000 You've made that clear, but this is proper procedure, and you'd have to pull over, or you can just go on back to the United States, you know?

01:25:05.000 I know.

01:25:13.000 No, I'll take my chances.

01:25:14.000 I know, but you don't have to.

01:25:15.000 You know, you can go right on back.

01:25:17.000 No, I'm pretty sure that I'm okay with this.

01:25:19.000 Yeah, I know, but we're not.

01:25:20.000 You know, you don't have to take your top off that fast.

01:25:22.000 I've done this before.

01:25:23.000 Stay tuned for more tales from Canada's Mounted Police.

01:25:33.000 Lain-a-Denim Edition. Lain-a-Denim Edition.

01:25:40.000 All right.

01:25:54.000 This is not good.

01:25:55.000 He might just walk off.

01:25:57.000 It's like you're going to Gary Coleman and saying, what you talking about, Willis?

01:26:00.000 Dean Cain's done more than this, Dean.

01:26:02.000 I'm so sorry.

01:26:03.000 It doesn't hurt me.

01:26:04.000 It doesn't hurt me at all.

01:26:05.000 I have a thick skin.

01:26:06.000 I've been called a heck of a lot worse than Superman.

01:26:09.000 I'll take it.

01:26:09.000 I'm okay.

01:26:10.000 This is true.

01:26:10.000 We've talked about that.

01:26:11.000 You have a good head on your shoulders about that.

01:26:13.000 Sometimes I remember I walked up...

01:26:14.000 Who was it?

01:26:15.000 I won't give out a name.

01:26:15.000 A celebrity?

01:26:17.000 But someone who was very iconic with a character.

01:26:19.000 And we were specifically told, don't talk about that because it bothered them.

01:26:23.000 You've never been that way because you were happy to play it.

01:26:26.000 It's something that resonates with people.

01:26:28.000 You don't get mad if someone goes, Superman.

01:26:30.000 I don't get mad when they call me Scott Peterson.

01:26:30.000 No.

01:26:32.000 Maybe a little bit.

01:26:33.000 Maybe a little bit.

01:26:34.000 I played him.

01:26:35.000 I played Scott Peterson.

01:26:36.000 Who's Scott Peterson?

01:26:37.000 Forgive me.

01:26:38.000 Oh, he killed his wife. 0.74

01:26:40.000 Oh, that's right. 0.92

01:26:42.000 Or they say.

01:26:43.000 I don't know.

01:26:44.000 You gotta be careful now because the lawyers can get on you.

01:26:46.000 That's happening with the OJ show.

01:26:47.000 I played the character.

01:26:49.000 That's all.

01:26:49.000 You played the character.

01:26:51.000 I played the character.

01:26:52.000 This is true.

01:26:52.000 Okay.

01:26:53.000 So I want to go back to your son.

01:26:54.000 So your son may not go to college.

01:26:56.000 Does he have any idea as to, not to get obviously super personal, but this is interesting because I've talked about this with guests who go, well, not everyone has to go to college.

01:27:03.000 But then in the conservative circle, there's this elitism.

01:27:05.000 What's the first thing they list?

01:27:06.000 I went to Harvard.

01:27:07.000 I went to Cornell.

01:27:08.000 I'm going, well, you don't really believe it because that's what, well, there you go.

01:27:11.000 See?

01:27:11.000 Princeton.

01:27:12.000 Exactly.

01:27:12.000 There you go.

01:27:13.000 That whole thing right there.

01:27:14.000 Oh, sorry.

01:27:15.000 But does your son have a plan, like a trade school or a business or if he doesn't go?

01:27:19.000 He doesn't know.

01:27:19.000 And the truth is, you know, I don't want to...

01:27:22.000 Half the kids that I was at Princeton with were so stressed out by the time they got there, there would be like the midnight disappearance.

01:27:28.000 And did you hear about so-and-so?

01:27:29.000 She's gone.

01:27:30.000 She's just gone.

01:27:31.000 And the meltdowns, the breakdowns, and it's tough.

01:27:34.000 So when you're pushing that hard, and everyone's always pushing from the very beginning...

01:27:37.000 My kids, at three years old, they started doing this, and they're like...

01:27:40.000 That stuff doesn't matter.

01:27:41.000 It just doesn't matter.

01:27:43.000 And you look at some of the great inventors of our time, you know, on our time.

01:27:47.000 I wasn't back with Thomas Edison.

01:27:48.000 No.

01:27:49.000 Of all time.

01:27:50.000 Our time and previous times.

01:27:52.000 You look at a lot of different people like that who are tremendously successful.

01:27:55.000 They didn't go.

01:27:55.000 So if he doesn't have it in him, he doesn't have the will or desire to go, I'm not going to push him to go.

01:28:00.000 For me, college is a great time to grow up, make a lot of stupid mistakes, learn how to drink. 1.00

01:28:06.000 Oh, come on. 1.00

01:28:06.000 Careful now. 1.00

01:28:08.000 That's what happened.

01:28:09.000 Well, that's what happened for you.

01:28:09.000 You don't want your son doing that.

01:28:11.000 No.

01:28:11.000 I'm throwing you a lifeline here.

01:28:13.000 That's what people do in college.

01:28:13.000 No.

01:28:15.000 Well, for a lot of people, it's four years of glorified alcoholism.

01:28:15.000 It's true.

01:28:18.000 And the truth is, if people have a proclivity toward that, toward addiction, and they just think it's college and fun, it can mess them up.

01:28:24.000 And I've seen that.

01:28:25.000 It can.

01:28:26.000 Yeah.

01:28:26.000 It can.

01:28:27.000 But then, you know, that's where you learn that you can't do that.

01:28:29.000 Well, no.

01:28:30.000 They just shouldn't do it at all.

01:28:31.000 Because there's those people, you know, like, oh, well, what is this you say?

01:28:34.000 Mike's hard lemonade?

01:28:37.000 But you see that.

01:28:38.000 And you can find that person in college.

01:28:39.000 But if you stay hidden behind closed doors...

01:28:42.000 You're not social enough to get out there.

01:28:43.000 I mean, that's where you figure out a lot of things.

01:28:45.000 I saw some guys have some problems in college, and we identified it.

01:28:49.000 We're like, dude, you shouldn't drink.

01:28:50.000 Well, you played football, so probably a lot of those people are dead.

01:28:54.000 No, the lifespan is not, you know, for a lot of these, with the brain injuries and they just beat up their body, a lot of them get addicted to painkillers.

01:29:00.000 I mean, they can be great guys, but like my friend who played football at, well, Gerald, we have him on the show all the time, at Notre Dame.

01:29:05.000 Like, those people are, people think of the struggling sort of artist and the drugs and that's the idea of the tortured creative mind.

01:29:12.000 It is actually just as prevalent among athletes because of the pain they go through.

01:29:18.000 It's tremendous pain.

01:29:19.000 I've had six surgeries myself.

01:29:20.000 The thing is, what's that?

01:29:22.000 I just got back from rehab.

01:29:25.000 I had knee surgery.

01:29:25.000 It's excruciating.

01:29:26.000 The rehab, it's awful.

01:29:28.000 Yeah, but if you don't do it, you might as well not have the surgery.

01:29:30.000 That's true.

01:29:31.000 So, you know, yeah.

01:29:32.000 So I've seen it, but none of my friends have died that I played football with.

01:29:35.000 Not one.

01:29:35.000 So just the guys on the team you didn't like?

01:29:37.000 Yeah, well, I... They're gone.

01:29:40.000 Two of those guys, I, you know...

01:29:42.000 But, you know, that stuff happens.

01:29:43.000 But, you know, listen, I think, you know, going to college is a good thing.

01:29:48.000 It's a good place to grow up.

01:29:49.000 It was great for me.

01:29:50.000 I went in as a boy, in a sense, and I came out as a man.

01:29:52.000 I learned how to work hard.

01:29:54.000 I learned how to work hard playing football, work hard in school, in the classroom.

01:29:57.000 I was always so good in the classroom in high school.

01:29:59.000 I got to college and I was terrible, comparatively.

01:30:01.000 Really?

01:30:02.000 Well, it just took me a chance.

01:30:02.000 Really?

01:30:04.000 I had to adjust.

01:30:05.000 I went to a public high school.

01:30:07.000 I wasn't always aiming at Princeton or any place like that.

01:30:09.000 I was just taking AP classes because I thought they were fun.

01:30:13.000 Right.

01:30:13.000 I was the opposite.

01:30:14.000 I wasn't pushing hard for college.

01:30:15.000 Working hard.

01:30:16.000 That's the course I skipped out on.

01:30:18.000 That's the one I missed.

01:30:20.000 You slept through it.

01:30:21.000 I wasn't horrible.

01:30:22.000 I was like a C-plus, B-minus student in high school.

01:30:24.000 I didn't do anything.

01:30:25.000 And then got to college and actually did pretty well.

01:30:28.000 Because you were ready to learn that.

01:30:28.000 That's the thing.

01:30:30.000 Well, it's because I was finally interested.

01:30:32.000 I got to pick my courses, you know, and then left because I was doing stand-up comedy.

01:30:37.000 So again, I didn't finish.

01:30:39.000 I remember my teacher giving me flux.

01:30:41.000 She's like, I don't understand why you're acting up in my class.

01:30:43.000 What do you think you're going to be like, just for laughs or something?

01:30:45.000 And I had just gotten called like that week that I had made it into the festival.

01:30:49.000 And I said, why am I here?

01:30:51.000 I just walked out and I never went back in.

01:30:53.000 That was it.

01:30:54.000 That was for me.

01:30:55.000 I just realized that was my moment.

01:30:56.000 And then my brother graduated with honors at UT Film School in Austin, which is a very prestigious film school.

01:31:02.000 He wasn't the best high school student.

01:31:04.000 And we were like, wait, Jordan got honors when he's walking across the stairs?

01:31:08.000 Like, one of the best schools in the...

01:31:09.000 How did this happen?

01:31:10.000 He was just in his field.

01:31:11.000 He's brilliant.

01:31:12.000 And so a lot of people think you have to find that in school.

01:31:15.000 It sounds like maybe your son...

01:31:18.000 You grow up, but you don't have to grow up in college anymore.

01:31:21.000 There are so many other available outlets if it doesn't fit your goals.

01:31:26.000 It's absolutely true.

01:31:27.000 Yeah.

01:31:28.000 Do you feel that with all your kids, with your son?

01:31:33.000 Is it just – With any kid really at this point in time.

01:31:35.000 My cousin, I just put him through college.

01:31:38.000 He went to Alabama.

01:31:40.000 OK.

01:31:40.000 But he did a good job.

01:31:42.000 He was an OK student in high school.

01:31:44.000 He did great in college and did a wonderful job and then got a real high-paying job and now just left that kid because he's still a kid.

01:31:51.000 And, you know, college was great for him.

01:31:54.000 I just don't know for my son if that's what it's going to be that he wants to do.

01:31:57.000 I'm not pushing him.

01:31:58.000 No, and this is an important point because people say it needs, you know, college is a human right, right?

01:32:02.000 What about someone like your son who chooses not to go and starts a business or goes to trade school?

01:32:02.000 Bernie Sanders.

01:32:08.000 Why should someone like him pay for someone else's eight-year degree in social studies?

01:32:12.000 No one thinks of someone like your son.

01:32:14.000 He shouldn't.

01:32:15.000 Nobody should.

01:32:16.000 Right.

01:32:17.000 No question about it.

01:32:18.000 And the federal government's got to get out of subsidizing those loans and causing all that trouble and making the price go up.

01:32:22.000 I mean, that's what's happening.

01:32:24.000 It's just madness.

01:32:25.000 Look at Dean Cain.

01:32:25.000 It took us this long to get there, but look, he just threw something out that the people don't realize.

01:32:29.000 Tuition is so high because of inflation with these student loans on the table.

01:32:32.000 Unless you are a hardcore libertarian economics buff, you don't know what Dean Cain just threw out there.

01:32:38.000 He's not all looks.

01:32:39.000 He's not all looks.

01:32:40.000 Mostly, though.

01:32:41.000 But it's great to look.

01:32:41.000 Let's be honest.

01:32:43.000 Like Dean Cain.

01:32:44.000 If you could do all of the above, man, you have punched your ticket.

01:32:47.000 Okay, speaking of punching ticket, people can follow you at RealDeanCain.

01:32:50.000 And guys, now, do you keep everyone updated on Twitter on that?

01:32:54.000 I do.

01:32:55.000 As soon as I know what's happening there. 1.00

01:32:56.000 Like I said, I'm just a dumb actor. 0.98

01:32:57.000 They don't tell me anything. 0.98

01:32:58.000 But when they tell me it's coming out, I'm screaming about it.

01:33:00.000 I'll be on Twitter.

01:33:01.000 Well, absolutely.

01:33:01.000 And we'll have to have you back on the show to talk about it.

01:33:03.000 We wanted to keep it light today because we have Austin Peterson and then we have all this crazy stuff going on.

01:33:08.000 But next time we'll talk about the dark abortion movie.

01:33:11.000 Dean Cain, thank you for being with us, sir.

01:33:13.000 I appreciate it.

01:33:14.000 Way to pitch that dark abortion movie. 1.00

01:33:16.000 Yes, next time.

01:33:17.000 That's how we'll end the segment.

01:33:18.000 Light it with the crowd, everybody.

01:33:19.000 Stay tuned.

01:33:20.000 man he is.

01:33:20.000 I'm not Superman.

01:33:48.000 This is a Lena Dunham Morning.

01:33:51.000 This warning is specifically for all Canadians. 0.73

01:33:54.000 Lena Dunham has threatened to move to your great land if Donald Trump becomes president. 0.71

01:34:01.000 This burden will be accompanied by horrible television programming, false claims of rape, and long-term famine due to the over-consumption of your country's abundant natural resources.

01:34:13.000 This has been a Lena Dunham warning.

01:34:16.000 This has been a Lena Dunham warning.

01:34:44.000 Third hour.

01:34:45.000 That's actually my favorite bump of the show now.

01:34:47.000 It's pretty good.

01:34:48.000 I was showing friends that Pogo chap. 0.99

01:34:51.000 Pogo chap. 1.00

01:34:52.000 That's actually a remix for those who have asked.

01:34:54.000 Yes, it's a remix of Hook.

01:34:55.000 The film Hook.

01:34:57.000 I like it.

01:34:58.000 I like it.

01:34:59.000 He just died.

01:35:01.000 Not didn't just die, but he died a while ago.

01:35:03.000 Oh, no, no.

01:35:04.000 Shmi.

01:35:05.000 Shmi.

01:35:05.000 I just forgot his name.

01:35:06.000 Tweet me his name.

01:35:08.000 Tweet me his name at S. Crowder.

01:35:08.000 Hi, people.

01:35:10.000 Not gay, Jared. 1.00

01:35:10.000 It's all the time of my time. 1.00

01:35:11.000 Not gay. 1.00

01:35:12.000 You get it. 0.91

01:35:12.000 Legal obligations. 0.91

01:35:14.000 People really seem to want to...

01:35:17.000 That's so cute.

01:35:17.000 Oh, wow.

01:35:18.000 Aaron D. Gamil.

01:35:19.000 Someone's tweeting me a picture of their baby watching Dean Cain.

01:35:22.000 Well, hopefully the baby is watching Dean Cain and not me.

01:35:27.000 Because that's not good.

01:35:28.000 You want a better example.

01:35:30.000 And Dean Cain was Superman for crying out loud.

01:35:32.000 People really want to keep talking about UMass.

01:35:34.000 I don't know if it's because it's intimate and people feel more connected with this.

01:35:37.000 This is why eventually we know, listen, that we will probably outgrow the medium of radio, traditional radio.

01:35:44.000 We're grateful to be syndicated, but...

01:35:46.000 Real quick, it is important.

01:35:47.000 Bob Hoskins.

01:35:48.000 Courtney tweeted.

01:35:49.000 Bob Hoskins.

01:35:50.000 Courtney scoffs.

01:35:50.000 Bob Hoskins.

01:35:52.000 Well, she didn't answer my texts.

01:35:54.000 Oh, there you go.

01:35:54.000 Bob Hoskins.

01:35:55.000 Okay.

01:35:56.000 Okay, let's do something else.

01:35:58.000 We'll get back to UMass, and let's get to one thing here.

01:36:03.000 Amy Schumer released a sketch on Comedy Central.

01:36:06.000 Did I already answer that?

01:36:07.000 I don't think she's funny now.

01:36:08.000 Sometimes it's tough to know what's on air and what's off air.

01:36:11.000 Amy Schumer and I have had our run-ins, and I respect immensely what she has accomplished as a stand-up comedian.

01:36:16.000 I have to.

01:36:17.000 But she's crossing over into territory.

01:36:22.000 I mean, you don't want to perpetuate rape culture at all. 1.00

01:36:26.000 Let's roll the clip of the sketch.

01:36:28.000 Now time for the best Crudder Head Contribution of the week, yeah. 0.99

01:36:55.000 Time to listen up, you silly liberal fruitcakes. 0.99

01:36:58.000 Ooh, they have something called a gelatinator. 0.99

01:37:02.000 Our patented ice cream dispenser guarantees that every scoop is super cool.

01:37:06.000 Oh, how can I be a professional victim today?

01:37:10.000 They have edible waffle holders.

01:37:13.000 That sounds delicious. 0.99

01:37:15.000 You have any idea, sir, how pathetic it must be to be you? 0.99

01:37:18.000 You're not falling for anything. 0.98

01:37:21.000 It's just nice to see some creative advertising.

01:37:24.000 Your parents didn't tell you that your opinion wasn't worth that much. 0.93

01:37:27.000 Give us some credit, brain.

01:37:29.000 We're your most loyal customers.

01:37:31.000 There's a giant blue penguin outside Yumbobo giving away free samples.

01:37:36.000 No way, what?

01:37:37.000 I've got to see...

01:37:40.000 You guys can't be grown adults enough to literally wait! 1.00

01:37:46.000 The jerk store! 1.00

01:37:47.000 Oh, they're running out of you, George Costanza, you androgynous little amoeba. 1.00

01:37:51.000 And by the way, these opinions you're yelling out, they're not even your opinions. 0.95

01:37:55.000 They're your opinions from your gender studies professor, and the really reason you picked it was because you thought it was your best chance at getting laid.

01:38:00.000 That your very glance in the direction of a woman causes a barren womb. 1.00

01:38:04.000 Is he gonna check his privilege?

01:38:06.000 That's not going to happen. 1.00

01:38:08.000 You're fighting for the right to be a pussy and not hear opinions that you don't like! 1.00

01:38:12.000 I know! 1.00

01:38:13.000 The face you see in your nightmares was created by social justice warrior assholes like you! 1.00

01:38:19.000 Oh, shut up. 1.00

01:38:20.000 You just got owned and now you're trying to come back five minutes later. 1.00

01:38:23.000 If you only take one piece of advice from them, don't be an asshole your whole life. 1.00

01:38:31.000 We're not paying for the Scrotterhead contribution! 1.00

01:38:35.000 But it was sweet, yeah!

01:38:41.000 Things that I want to do I ain't got a thing to prove to you Oh my gosh, so glad to bring in this next...

01:38:58.000 He's actually pinch-hitting for us.

01:38:59.000 He wasn't the scheduled guest.

01:39:01.000 Sargon of a Cat dropped out, but usually Klavan is our first guest, and he always just gives me the shaft, for lack of a better term. 0.95

01:39:07.000 You can follow his podcast at dailywire.com.

01:39:11.000 Fantastic.

01:39:12.000 Brilliant guy.

01:39:13.000 And the skill he has, I always talk about this, he's brilliant, but he makes you feel like the smartest person in the room. 0.97

01:39:18.000 So he's a very skilled liar. 0.94

01:39:20.000 Andrew Klavan. 0.60

01:39:21.000 How you doing, Steve?

01:39:22.000 Good to see you.

01:39:23.000 Oh, look at that background there.

01:39:24.000 You look like quite the author.

01:39:26.000 That's just painted on.

01:39:29.000 It's one hell of a green screen with a TriCaster.

01:39:33.000 So, wow, it's been a while since you've been on the program.

01:39:36.000 And what we were talking about, you sent me some very nice stuff about the UMass event, which we've been talking about.

01:39:42.000 You're obviously an educated man.

01:39:44.000 And you were like a pot-smoking hippie, I think, back in the day.

01:39:47.000 How does this compare to that era, would you say? 0.99

01:39:50.000 You know, well, I thought what you said, one of the things that you said that was so accurate in your rant was when you said that the guys who originally were fighting, they were idiots in a lot of ways, but they were fighting against the system. 0.96

01:40:03.000 They thought they were fighting for more freedom. 0.94

01:40:05.000 They thought they were fighting for, they called themselves the free speech movement where I was in Berkeley.

01:40:09.000 So, you know, they actually had at least an idea that the dialogue should open up, that radical ideas should be allowed in.

01:40:18.000 Now, it's all about shut up.

01:40:19.000 It's all, stop talking. 0.98

01:40:21.000 I don't want to hear it.

01:40:22.000 I don't want, you know, don't say anything.

01:40:24.000 There's their opinion, and then there's hate.

01:40:26.000 You know, there's their ideas, and then there's, you know, evil.

01:40:31.000 And so you never have to debate.

01:40:32.000 You never have to prove your point. 0.90

01:40:34.000 You never have to say, hey, you know, I'm looking at this city where all you great non-racist Democrats are running things, and all the black people are moving out. 1.00

01:40:42.000 Why is that, you know?

01:40:44.000 You never have to say, like...

01:40:45.000 Whoa, whoa.

01:40:46.000 What is your problem? 1.00

01:40:48.000 You insensitive a**hole! 1.00

01:40:50.000 You can't wade into race. 1.00

01:40:52.000 I didn't know you had my wife there. 1.00

01:40:53.000 Oh, good lord!

01:40:54.000 Your wife's a sweet lady, Andrew Clavin.

01:40:57.000 And she's named Carl, for those who don't know.

01:40:59.000 Those words would never cross her lips.

01:41:02.000 But, you know, you never have to say, hey, there's been feminism now for, you know, 40 years and women are more unhappy. 1.00

01:41:08.000 Women are committing suicide and all these, you know, how come? 1.00

01:41:11.000 Because all you have to do, all you have to do if you're one of these social justice warriors is point at a conservative and make that noise that Donald Sutherland makes at the end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers and the conversation is over.

01:41:23.000 And so I think that is a difference.

01:41:25.000 I mean, they did shout people down.

01:41:27.000 In the 60s, they were wrong.

01:41:29.000 They did take over buildings.

01:41:30.000 I wish people had slapped them down the way Reagan did at Berkeley.

01:41:34.000 I wish they'd done that all across the country.

01:41:36.000 But they did have this idea that they were fighting for more freedom, where these guys are fighting for less.

01:41:36.000 They didn't.

01:41:41.000 It's the first time you have people who are fighting for less freedom.

01:41:43.000 Funny thing, last time I was at Berkeley, they have the free speech circle.

01:41:46.000 And I remember talking with some students.

01:41:47.000 I said...

01:41:49.000 I thought the Free Speech Circle was America, and they had never thought of it before. 0.99

01:41:54.000 Like, you shouldn't need a designated Free Speech Circle, you piece of human feces. 1.00

01:41:59.000 Sorry, go ahead. 0.99

01:42:00.000 Was that there when you were there, the Free Speech Circle?

01:42:03.000 You know, in England, there's a famous place in the park, I think it's in Hyde Park, where they stand on boxes.

01:42:03.000 Absolutely not.

01:42:10.000 And the reason they stand on boxes is because then they're not on British soil and they can't be arrested for treason for what they say.

01:42:16.000 Very old tradition there.

01:42:17.000 And I hate to see that come here because I thought America was one big box where we were allowed to say anything we damn well pleased.

01:42:23.000 Well, I just picture that being like one game of Jenga and a government official is just shuffling the boxes so he falls off and then they put him in the stocks.

01:42:29.000 That's where the idea of a soapbox comes from, somebody on his soapbox.

01:42:32.000 Yeah, a lot of people don't realize some of these anecdotes that we use, these colloquialisms, are actually rooted in history.

01:42:39.000 Okay, speaking of history, I do have to give you a tough question here.

01:42:41.000 Someone wanted me to ask where you tweeted out, America first, the phrase just adopted by Trump, was a movement led by Nazi sympathizer Charles Lindbergh to keep the U.S. neutral in World War II. And this person wants to ask why you pull the Nazi card on Trump but not on Cruz for the same phrase.

01:42:56.000 I'm not aware that...

01:42:59.000 He used it offhandedly.

01:43:01.000 First of all, I was not pulling the Nazi card from Trump.

01:43:03.000 I'm not accusing. 0.98

01:43:04.000 I think Trump has a fascist heart.

01:43:06.000 I think he appeals to something that is truly fascist, which is the idea that the rules don't matter.

01:43:11.000 I'm going to fix it.

01:43:13.000 I alone can fix.

01:43:14.000 I alone can fix this.

01:43:15.000 That is fascist at its heart.

01:43:17.000 That is fascism.

01:43:18.000 That's the definition of it.

01:43:19.000 But I'm not calling him Hitlerian at all.

01:43:21.000 I don't think he's, you know, trying to kill people or start a war or anything like that.

01:43:25.000 All I was pointing out was that, you know, America first sometimes doesn't help America.

01:43:30.000 And that was the case with Charles Lindbergh.

01:43:33.000 Good point.

01:43:34.000 Lindbergh was a great man.

01:43:35.000 He was a great...

01:43:36.000 In the field of aeronautics, there were very few men as great as he was.

01:43:40.000 He fell in love.

01:43:41.000 He was enamored of Hitler from afar because he thought that he was a strong man fixing the economy.

01:43:46.000 Remember, it was the 30s.

01:43:47.000 Everything had crashed.

01:43:48.000 And he felt it was wrong.

01:43:50.000 He wasn't really an anti-Semite.

01:43:51.000 He was kind of like a typical anti-Semite of the day.

01:43:55.000 But he made a mistake, which is sometimes you have to engage with the world to win.

01:44:02.000 And you can't retreat and you can't just say, oh, we'll let Europe go up in smoke and our allies be taken over.

01:44:07.000 So that would be wildly entertaining because the social justice warriors are in parliament in Europe.

01:44:13.000 And I'm going like, ah, V for Vendetta was a crappy movie, but I'd like to watch that firework show.

01:44:19.000 But, you know, I have to tell you that after I said that on Twitter, the virulent anti-Semitic remarks, I mean, unbelievable. 0.98

01:44:28.000 Not since, like, the 30s have I heard this kind of garbage. 0.94

01:44:31.000 Yeah, that was the alt-rights. 0.98

01:44:32.000 And, you know, and I just want to say that somebody who wrote that speech, maybe not Trump, Trump is kind of an uneducated person, but...

01:44:40.000 But maybe somebody who wrote that speech must have known where that phrase came from.

01:44:44.000 And I wonder if it was a dog whistle to these people.

01:44:46.000 Was he sending a signal that, yeah, you know, I'm on your side?

01:44:50.000 Even though I don't particularly think Trump is a racist per se.

01:44:53.000 No, I don't think he is.

01:44:54.000 I think he's playing to those people.

01:44:56.000 Yeah, and you know, the alt-right, you have to understand, too, like, they've gone after Shapiro, they've kind of gone after me, but a lot of them are just, you know, they want to be disturbers because it's a retaliation to the social justice warrior culture, and so I cut them some slack until they start sending, you know, Jews, pictures of dead Jews.

01:45:12.000 But I think if you keep that in that context, it's not as bothersome.

01:45:15.000 You know, these aren't fully grown.

01:45:17.000 Yeah, I've heard our pal Milo Yiannopoulos say that, and I'm not convinced, you know.

01:45:21.000 I mean, I think that may be true of some of them, but, you know, you do need a sense of what evil is.

01:45:26.000 I mean, the thing is...

01:45:27.000 Well, let me tell you one thing, because we don't have a ton of...

01:45:29.000 I want to bring you back in the next segment, but let me tell you one thing.

01:45:31.000 We have these studies here.

01:45:33.000 We have all these analytics, and a lot of these people who are Trump supporters, they get really offended when we go after Bernie.

01:45:40.000 Because a lot of them are either Bernie or Trump.

01:45:42.000 It's just angry populist rhetoric.

01:45:45.000 And so we're very surprised.

01:45:47.000 And that's why Hillary Clinton just said they were afraid that Bernie Sanders would go Trump. 0.99

01:45:51.000 There is more crossover.

01:45:52.000 And we have a lot of conservatives who get mad when I go after Bernie.

01:45:56.000 Why don't you go after Clinton?

01:45:57.000 I said, well, there's going to be plenty of time for Clinton.

01:45:58.000 Right now, Bernie's the movement candidate.

01:46:00.000 Let's make sure we address this.

01:46:03.000 So there is some of that there at play.

01:46:05.000 And can you hold that thought?

01:46:07.000 Or did I interrupt it and it's gone?

01:46:08.000 No, no, go ahead.

01:46:10.000 All right, okay, because we have to go to a break, and right now I'm just buying time until we get there because I needed to time it out.

01:46:15.000 Maybe we could sing a little song or something, you know?

01:46:17.000 Well, you don't want me to sing a song, nor not Gay Jared. 0.98

01:46:19.000 But, oh, that sounds like we're going to a break.

01:46:21.000 Andrew Klavan will be back.

01:46:22.000 Stay tuned for more.

01:46:24.000 Hey, if you're listening to if you're listening to or watching this podcast, there's a strong chance that you are not yet following me on Twitter, where I'm tweeting all day long.

01:46:53.000 I'm ticking off the social justice warriors.

01:46:55.000 You should see the amount of hate I get on there. 0.76

01:46:57.000 Far, far, far worse than any Fat Sports Illustrated model or Black Lives Matter charlatan. 1.00

01:47:02.000 So listen, it's free.

01:47:04.000 You get to be entertained and you can chime in.

01:47:06.000 Also, if you're following me on Twitter, you can send me your tweets and maybe you'll be lucky enough.

01:47:11.000 And I mean lucky enough because I have a lot of followers, okay, that they call me the follower machine to have your tweet to me or not gay Jared included in our rockinest tweet of the week. 0.73

01:47:22.000 So follow me on Twitter at escrowder.

01:47:24.000 If not, I don't want to say I have sights on your mother, but...

01:47:29.000 Oh, she's dead? 0.97

01:47:31.000 You're just saying that because I made a mom joke.

01:47:33.000 No, she's really dead? 0.75

01:47:33.000 then, well, you kind of walked into it. 0.75

01:47:35.000 We now return you to a live debate between Social Justice Skyler and the Black Eye.

01:47:48.000 Work lives matter! 1.00

01:47:49.000 You're a racist, and a homophobe, and a bigot! 1.00

01:47:51.000 I know you're racist! 1.00

01:47:53.000 And you're the bigot! 1.00

01:47:54.000 And you should get off the stage with all your racism! 0.99

01:47:54.000 No, that's you! 0.99

01:47:57.000 Don't tell me about racism! 1.00

01:47:59.000 You got white privilege, and you need to shut the f*** up! 1.00

01:48:01.000 No, you need to shut the f*** up! 1.00

01:48:04.000 Patriarchy! 1.00

01:48:05.000 Did she just wake up? 1.00

01:48:06.000 Yeah, she woke up and you're a f*** it! 1.00

01:48:08.000 Alright, wash your mouth, man! 1.00

01:48:10.000 Rape culture and Black Lives Matter! 1.00

01:48:13.000 Hey, that's my strict. 1.00

01:48:14.000 You're a transphobe! 1.00

01:48:15.000 Hey, man, dudes with d***s in the restroom are still weird! 1.00

01:48:18.000 Penis privilege! 1.00

01:48:20.000 Your family's part of the 1% and you have such fun! 1.00

01:48:20.000 Hey, shut up! 1.00

01:48:23.000 Double center for women! 1.00

01:48:25.000 I want to get back to Black Lives Matter! 1.00

01:48:27.000 F*** you! 1.00

01:48:28.000 No, f*** you! 1.00

01:48:29.000 F*** you! 1.00

01:48:31.000 Get the f*** off the stage! 1.00

01:48:32.000 Now you first! 0.99

01:48:34.000 Ladies first! 1.00

01:48:35.000 Eat me! 0.98

01:48:38.000 Now that's disgusting. 0.91

01:48:39.000 Yeah, that's pretty gross. 0.98

01:48:41.000 That's sexism and body shaming! 1.00

01:48:44.000 Oh my god, is she dead?

01:48:52.000 I think so.

01:48:54.000 Saved by the bill.

01:48:57.000 We'll update you as these debates unfold.

01:49:00.000 All right, glad to have our guest glad to have our guest here.

01:49:25.000 He's back.

01:49:26.000 He had a thought.

01:49:26.000 You can follow his podcast, DailyWire.com.

01:49:30.000 Just type his name into Google.

01:49:30.000 Brilliant guy.

01:49:32.000 You'll see everything you need.

01:49:33.000 Andrew Klavan, thanks for staying with us, sir.

01:49:35.000 It's a pleasure.

01:49:36.000 It's a pleasure to be here.

01:49:37.000 It's too long.

01:49:37.000 I don't get to see you anymore.

01:49:38.000 I used to be out here.

01:49:39.000 I got to see you sometimes.

01:49:40.000 I will be out there.

01:49:42.000 Well, I don't know if I can...

01:49:43.000 Do people know where you are, or is that undisclosed?

01:49:46.000 I'm in L.A. Okay, in L.A., yeah.

01:49:48.000 I'll be out there soon to do some work with PragerU and Ruben, and I think maybe...

01:49:52.000 I have a show, actually, at the Reagan Library.

01:49:55.000 Fantastic.

01:49:56.000 I don't know when, three weeks.

01:49:57.000 I'll update you on it.

01:49:58.000 So, okay, you had a thought.

01:50:00.000 I want to hope that you held it through our sponsored break, and...

01:50:04.000 No clue.

01:50:04.000 What were we talking about?

01:50:05.000 Really?

01:50:06.000 You forgot it?

01:50:07.000 I don't know.

01:50:08.000 We were talking about the UMass dust-up.

01:50:11.000 I think we were talking about then the dog whistle with Lindbergh.

01:50:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:14.000 I mean, that was the only thing that I'm a little bit...

01:50:18.000 You know, it's interesting that Trump would use that as the Donald doctrine, is America first.

01:50:25.000 It was a very famous movement.

01:50:27.000 It was a movement to keep us out of World War II. It was a movement that was sympathetic to Hitler. 0.73

01:50:32.000 It was really kind of before they knew exactly who Hitler was and how bad and evil he was going to turn out to be. 0.83

01:50:39.000 So it was an anti-interventionist movement.

01:50:41.000 It's been very much discredited.

01:50:42.000 There were guys on Twitter saying, yeah, we should have stayed out of World War II. Yeah, good idea. 1.00

01:50:47.000 Yeah, I know.

01:50:48.000 I've gotten a lot of that, too. 1.00

01:50:49.000 All your allies conquered by an evil, demonic, hate-filled crazy man. 0.99

01:50:54.000 That's the way you want the world to be. 0.99

01:50:55.000 And it doesn't matter what you say.

01:50:56.000 They'll just say, well, you're half-Jew, so you have to have that opinion.

01:50:59.000 It's like, well, no.

01:51:00.000 No, I don't have to be a half-two to have that opinion. 1.00

01:51:02.000 I explain to them, you know, that I am a Jew, but I've converted to Christianity, so while they're burning in hell for their anti-Semitic crap, I'm going to be having a gin and coke! 1.00

01:51:14.000 Wait, gin and coke? 1.00

01:51:15.000 Is that a drink?

01:51:16.000 I know gin and tonic.

01:51:17.000 No, I'm just making it up.

01:51:20.000 I don't know.

01:51:21.000 It sounds like it could be a thing.

01:51:23.000 I know rum and coke and then gin and tonic.

01:51:26.000 Where do you pull a fast one on you?

01:51:27.000 It's something you didn't know about.

01:51:28.000 Hey, Andrew, I have to ask you.

01:51:31.000 Do you just wear makeup or just have that completely even complexion all the time?

01:51:36.000 My doctor, what did he say?

01:51:38.000 I had pristine skin.

01:51:40.000 This is the way I look.

01:51:41.000 It's just like a matte finish.

01:51:43.000 You would never need to be powdered ever, even under shark hunting lights.

01:51:47.000 This looks like a shirt.

01:51:48.000 This is actually just me.

01:51:49.000 This is all my skin.

01:51:50.000 It's just you.

01:51:51.000 It's just like the Sports Illustrated things where they paint it on.

01:51:54.000 I draw buttons on my chest.

01:51:56.000 Yes, yes.

01:51:57.000 No, I agree with you, and I think that's disturbing.

01:52:00.000 My issue, too, I really hate that right now with the Republican Party, and like you're talking about these people who go after you or Shapiro, and they go after me, but I just don't care so much because I'm an entertainer, is they've made people like you a bigger target than the left.

01:52:14.000 And I was talking with Milo about this, too, and obviously he doesn't necessarily believe that, but a lot of these people think you're a bigger enemy for not getting in line with Donald Trump.

01:52:23.000 Than Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:52:23.000 Oh. 1.00

01:52:24.000 And I just really think these people, if they're attacking you and Ben Shapiro, I'm going, listen, I'm glad you have a new phase you're in.

01:52:31.000 But these people have paved the way for many, many years.

01:52:34.000 And one last thing, too, when people say, if people have fought this much against Obama as they do against Trump, we wouldn't have Obama. 1.00

01:52:39.000 I go, that's just a stupid comment. 0.99

01:52:40.000 There was never a more bloody, bare-knuckle brawl than conservatives and Republicans against Obama. 1.00

01:52:45.000 So to say that there wasn't is just silly. 0.93

01:52:47.000 Yeah, I mean, that's for sure.

01:52:48.000 I've been talking about that.

01:52:49.000 I'm glad just to have Trump, so I have somebody else to attack at this point. 0.94

01:52:52.000 You know, look, you know, the idea that because Trump has an R after his name and is, you know, a putative Republican, and the idea that because he says America first and wears a red hat and all this stuff, that he's a conservative, that he represents what America represents, that's just simplistic and silly.

01:53:09.000 I mean, the guy's history is not a good history.

01:53:12.000 I mean, as he himself would say, bad, very bad, you know?

01:53:14.000 I think that, you know, his business dealings are suspect.

01:53:18.000 Not very nice history.

01:53:18.000 Not very nice.

01:53:20.000 You know, his business dealings are suspect.

01:53:23.000 His politics change.

01:53:24.000 And what I don't understand is that Trump supporters keep saying, well, he was in business so he had to lie to people and give money to the opposite side.

01:53:33.000 What makes them think he's not doing that to them?

01:53:35.000 Right.

01:53:35.000 Why do they think, if he's betrayed every idea he's ever had, if he's betrayed every person he's ever, what makes him think they're not betraying him?

01:53:42.000 I don't get that.

01:53:43.000 And it also says a lot about those people.

01:53:44.000 They don't believe you can make it in business honestly.

01:53:46.000 They believe that's the only way business can be done, is by abandoning your principles.

01:53:50.000 Well, that's...

01:53:52.000 He wasn't that good a businessman either.

01:53:53.000 No, no, I know.

01:53:55.000 We can get into that, but I understand.

01:53:56.000 But I want to go back to the UMass thing, because that is something we can all agree on, and you've talked about this.

01:54:04.000 You're such a sensible guy and a reasonable guy.

01:54:08.000 Do you think...

01:54:10.000 Not to be selfish here, was I out of line?

01:54:12.000 Is there a point where it's appropriate to drop the A-bomb? 0.97

01:54:15.000 Is that okay, or can someone always be convinced?

01:54:19.000 I think that there are people who can't be, and you need to recognize the difference.

01:54:22.000 I think we're dealing with a case.

01:54:25.000 The only words I can think of to describe it is induced insanity.

01:54:28.000 I mean, I think that there are, I think one thing, there are kids, a lot of kids are on drugs, a psychotropic, you know, prescription drugs to deal with depression and all this stuff.

01:54:37.000 Kids get drugged too quickly.

01:54:39.000 They go to college and they get off those drugs and they crash.

01:54:41.000 And a lot of them are really lost and really in trouble.

01:54:44.000 And they start to pour into their heads these ideas.

01:54:47.000 You know, today on my podcast, I read an article called, Everyone Who Is Unhappy With Life Is Unhappy For The Same Reasons.

01:54:55.000 And it was just a self-help article, not political at all.

01:54:57.000 No, it was great.

01:54:58.000 It just gave ten ideas that people have that make them unhappy.

01:55:05.000 And almost all of them were exact descriptions of social justice warriors.

01:55:09.000 So it was things like, if you think life is fair, you're going to be unhappy.

01:55:13.000 I mean, that just makes perfect sense.

01:55:14.000 If you think everybody should like you, you're going to be unhappy.

01:55:16.000 If you think everybody should naturally agree with you, you're going to be unhappy.

01:55:19.000 These are things that make people miserable.

01:55:22.000 And so these kids are being made miserable.

01:55:24.000 They're lost.

01:55:25.000 They have no adult supervision.

01:55:27.000 They have been told, some of these girls have been told that they should feel about sex the way men feel about sex, which is just so destructive.

01:55:35.000 And to be honest with you, men shouldn't always feel the way men feel about sex.

01:55:39.000 You know, men should have reined themselves in a little bit.

01:55:41.000 You know, and they're lost and they're alone and they get this idea that somehow their self-esteem is dependent on your behavior.

01:55:50.000 I mean, think about this for a minute, Stephen.

01:55:52.000 You know, you and I get called every name in the book every single day.

01:55:55.000 I don't lose a minute's sleep over it.

01:55:57.000 I mean, I don't even think about it.

01:55:59.000 I don't think what people call me.

01:56:00.000 I care what my wife thinks about me. 1.00

01:56:02.000 That's what I care about.

01:56:03.000 Because she knows me and I love her.

01:56:03.000 Right.

01:56:05.000 If you walked around worrying about microaggressions, We're good to go.

01:56:33.000 It's just abhorrent that the universities basically promote this.

01:56:39.000 They promote it in their classrooms, but they also promote it by not allowing people like you to speak.

01:56:44.000 They don't invite you.

01:56:46.000 When Shapiro goes to speak, he has to go through all this red tape.

01:56:49.000 There are riots.

01:56:51.000 There are people screaming.

01:56:53.000 I think you struck back.

01:56:54.000 You were totally within your right to strike back.

01:56:57.000 Well, I know it was in my rights, but you always want to do the right thing.

01:57:01.000 But I was talking about that earlier.

01:57:02.000 I don't think I could even have sat down Trigglypuff and said, hey, listen, let's find some common ground.

01:57:08.000 No, I think making an example of those people convinced the people who could be convinced.

01:57:12.000 We were talking about this 20%. 0.98

01:57:13.000 29,000 students at Amherst, only maybe 50 at most were there to protest and stir up crap. 0.92

01:57:19.000 They're not the majority, and they're going away.

01:57:22.000 But they have a sympathetic media, they have a sympathetic entertainment industry, and they have a sympathetic administration in higher education.

01:57:29.000 Except for Princeton.

01:57:30.000 That guy didn't tolerate that.

01:57:31.000 Remember that statement the guy wrote at Princeton?

01:57:33.000 Yeah, I'm sure I remember that one.

01:57:34.000 It was very, like, you will be removed.

01:57:37.000 Act like adults.

01:57:37.000 It was very simple.

01:57:38.000 I don't even think the guy was a conservative.

01:57:40.000 I don't know why that's hard.

01:57:41.000 Why is it hard for every dean or, I don't know, head of the board at these schools?

01:57:45.000 Doesn't it seem like that should be a given?

01:57:47.000 You're out.

01:57:48.000 Part of it, I suspect, is economic.

01:57:50.000 You start throwing people out, then they're not going to be paying your immense tuition fees.

01:57:55.000 Which is silly because enrollment goes down like you see with Ms. 0.71

01:57:59.000 Hugh.

01:57:59.000 Yeah, but also it's the tyranny of cool.

01:58:02.000 I mean, one of the things that nobody wants to do is nobody wants to say, you know, that's wrong.

01:58:07.000 You're doing the wrong thing.

01:58:09.000 And I'm older than you, and I know it's wrong, and you are too young to understand what you're doing. 1.00

01:58:13.000 Shut up. 0.99

01:58:14.000 That's why I have the authority and you don't. 1.00

01:58:16.000 Nobody wants to say it.

01:58:17.000 And as a result of that, you know, it's really interesting.

01:58:21.000 I don't know if you've read that book, Coming Apart, but he explains in Coming Apart that people who do well...

01:58:28.000 Don't preach anymore to people who are doing badly.

01:58:30.000 They don't say, this is how I did well, you can do this too.

01:58:33.000 Oh, I guess that makes sense.

01:58:35.000 Maybe one day when I start doing well, I'll be able to reverse that trend.

01:58:39.000 I'm not holding my breath.

01:58:40.000 No, no, I'm not holding my breath either.

01:58:43.000 Yeah, you're laughing because I miss it.

01:58:44.000 What is it?

01:58:45.000 Mitsu?

01:58:46.000 I don't know either.

01:58:47.000 I never get it right.

01:58:48.000 I just know you don't get it right.

01:58:49.000 I know I never get it right.

01:58:50.000 How do I pronounce it, Andrew Klavan?

01:58:53.000 Mizzou, they call it.

01:58:54.000 Mizzou.

01:58:55.000 That's stupid. 1.00

01:58:56.000 That's the stupidest thing. 1.00

01:58:58.000 How come I keep coming on the show, I never get a louder with Crowder t-shirt? 0.99

01:59:01.000 Well, we just got them, and they only sent me XXL, but I have a shirt coming out that you're going to want more.

01:59:07.000 Uh-oh.

01:59:08.000 Well, it's as incendiary as a t-shirt can possibly get, but it's a reasoned argument, and it involves Che Guevara.

01:59:08.000 What's that?

01:59:16.000 I'll say that.

01:59:17.000 So I'll send you one of those, and if you wear it on your show, we can cross-promote that.

01:59:21.000 By the way, we have a little bit longer, but I know dailywire.com, if people want to subscribe directly to you, what's the best link of communication to Andrew Klavan directly?

01:59:30.000 Well, I think you can go on andrewklavan.com if you like, but you can also subscribe to the podcast, which is Monday through Thursday, so you get a lot of content there.

01:59:39.000 But I have my own website, AndrewClavin.com.

01:59:41.000 And also come on Twitter.

01:59:42.000 I'm at AndrewClavin.

01:59:44.000 I would love to have you on Twitter.

01:59:46.000 You can come and at least talk to all the Jew haters.

01:59:48.000 Well, yeah, I don't know if you want to invite this Twitter crowd.

01:59:52.000 Your crowd.

01:59:53.000 Yeah, our followers are pretty cretinous, but they're not mean-spirited.

01:59:58.000 And I think they're mostly your fans.

02:00:00.000 So, Andrew, thank you so much.

02:00:02.000 We'll have you back sometime.

02:00:03.000 Let's have you co-hosting in the seat. 0.98

02:00:06.000 DailyWire.com.

02:00:07.000 Last word.

02:00:08.000 One sentence.

02:00:09.000 Come to my podcast.

02:00:10.000 Come on to my podcast.

02:00:11.000 Come to his podcast.

02:00:12.000 Andrew Klavan, DailyWire.com.

02:00:14.000 No, no, you got your last word.

02:00:15.000 Lotter with Crowder.

02:00:15.000 You must go now.

02:00:17.000 Stay tuned.

02:00:17.000 Here's some music.

02:00:20.000 There's not a break here.

02:00:20.000 I never signaled you for a break here.

02:00:22.000 You gave me a single 30 seconds.

02:00:23.000 I said very clearly about three minutes.

02:00:25.000 Oh! 0.60

02:00:26.000 Just keep going.

02:00:26.000 You have time.

02:00:27.000 I have time?

02:00:28.000 Andrew, get back here.

02:00:28.000 Yeah.

02:00:28.000 Andrew.

02:00:30.000 Get over here. 0.99

02:00:32.000 I was just making myself a sandwich.

02:00:32.000 What happened?

02:00:34.000 I was, you know...

02:00:35.000 A Jew sandwich? 0.87

02:00:36.000 This place is chaos. 0.97

02:00:38.000 This place...

02:00:39.000 He's halfway to the kitchen making matzo balls.

02:00:43.000 Matzo balls.

02:00:44.000 And latkes. 0.95

02:00:45.000 How dare he?

02:00:46.000 I had no idea.

02:00:46.000 I'm sorry.

02:00:47.000 Here's the problem, Andrew.

02:00:49.000 Not gay Jared. 1.00

02:00:50.000 Get yourself on camera. 1.00

02:00:51.000 Don't hide here.

02:00:52.000 I'm not hiding.

02:00:53.000 This is 30 seconds.

02:00:56.000 I never gave you that signal.

02:00:58.000 I can give you a different signal if you like.

02:01:00.000 Stop it.

02:01:01.000 Don't give me the Trigglypuff signal.

02:01:01.000 Stop it.

02:01:03.000 Okay, Andrew, we have a couple...

02:01:04.000 But I want you to come on the podcast.

02:01:05.000 I want to interview you.

02:01:06.000 You want me on your podcast?

02:01:07.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:01:08.000 I didn't think you ever asked.

02:01:10.000 Well, because you have to control your language.

02:01:12.000 We do a clean podcast.

02:01:13.000 Well, that was actually really out of character at UMass.

02:01:16.000 My act is clean.

02:01:17.000 It's very offensive.

02:01:19.000 But even then, it was PG-13.

02:01:21.000 I was just at the point where I really like...

02:01:24.000 We've talked about it.

02:01:25.000 I love Milo and Christina Hoff Summers, but you've known me for a long time.

02:01:28.000 It's one thing they show up and lecture.

02:01:29.000 And I felt, I got so mad because Christina is so nice, and she keeps talking over herself because she can't hear.

02:01:37.000 And I'm saying, well, that's not because she's inarticulate. 0.95

02:01:38.000 She can't hear herself, and our sound is going out.

02:01:40.000 And the difference is, I'm a comedian, and I knew I wasn't going to get jokes out, and I know I can kind of do that, so I said, okay, if I need to fall on this sword or just kamikaze bomb into the audience to hopefully silence them for a bit, I have to do it.

02:01:54.000 And then they quieted down for like two minutes.

02:01:55.000 And then they, you know, once the enforcer was sitting in the chair, they started speaking up again.

02:02:00.000 You know, I think the thing that really does worry me, especially since we look like we're looking, we have a good chance of getting Hillary Clinton as president.

02:02:08.000 And Hillary Clinton is very antithetical to free speech. 1.00

02:02:11.000 I mean, Hillary Clinton hates this, you know, that Supreme Court decision that It came out of the fact that somebody did a video critical of her. 0.99

02:02:22.000 Well, so do Trump supporters.

02:02:23.000 They hate the Citizens United.

02:02:24.000 That's one of the most misunderstood court cases ever.

02:02:27.000 It's totally misunderstood, and people have to keep explaining it.

02:02:30.000 But one of the things that worries me is these kids have lost the plot of free speech.

02:02:34.000 They don't understand why it's good, why it trumps, as it were, hate speech and all that stuff, and why we put up with hate speech in order to have free speech.

02:02:43.000 Now we actually do have 30 seconds, but I think that's a better point to end on.

02:02:47.000 Now you can go enjoy that sandwich in peace.

02:02:50.000 Andrew Klavan on Twitter, at AndrewKlavanDailyWire.com.

02:02:53.000 I highly recommend this podcast, and I will go on this podcast, and I will bridle my tongue.

02:02:58.000 We'll wrap this up in a bow for you.

02:02:59.000 Stay tuned.

02:02:59.000 you.

02:03:00.000 And now for Tales from Canada's Mounted Police, Lena Dunham Edition.

02:03:23.000 Okay, thanks, Miss Dunham.

02:03:25.000 It looks like it's come down to this.

02:03:27.000 I figured it might.

02:03:29.000 Yeah, I about thought that.

02:03:30.000 I've never seen anyone disrobe so fast at customs.

02:03:32.000 Okay, you're going to get started?

02:03:34.000 Yep, any second, just after this third beer, you know.

02:03:39.000 Is that legal to drink beer on the job?

02:03:41.000 It is today.

02:03:43.000 Okay, well, I don't think this is the first time you've seen this, because I know you have the queen and your money.

02:03:51.000 That's great.

02:03:52.000 Making jokes, you know, make this go a little faster.

02:03:55.000 Okay.

02:03:56.000 If you can just stand there...

02:04:00.000 Against the wall, and I am going to check if you could please refrain from moving.

02:04:08.000 I totally get it.

02:04:09.000 Okay, last piece of clothing.

02:04:12.000 Oh, it's gone.

02:04:13.000 Okay, I've got...

02:04:15.000 Did you have too much beer?

02:04:24.000 Let me go with that! 1.00

02:04:25.000 Oh my god, I think he's choking.

02:04:27.000 Somebody help him! 1.00

02:04:28.000 The only thing he's choking on is the side of your ass! 1.00

02:04:31.000 What? 1.00

02:04:35.000 It's okay.

02:04:37.000 It's okay.

02:04:40.000 Okay.

02:04:42.000 Get up against the wall here.

02:04:45.000 Alright, I'm about to body cavity search...

02:04:51.000 Lena Dunham.

02:04:52.000 Let's go.

02:04:53.000 I have places to be.

02:04:54.000 Oh, Canada.

02:04:58.000 Our home and native land.

02:05:05.000 I can't.

02:05:06.000 I'm sorry.

02:05:07.000 I'm sorry.

02:05:08.000 Where are you going?

02:05:08.000 What?

02:05:10.000 I love you, Canada.

02:05:12.000 I'm sorry I failed you.

02:05:14.000 Oh my god!

02:05:15.000 I thought those were illegal here!

02:05:17.000 Not today!

02:05:18.000 Stay tuned for more tales from Canada's Mounted Police.

02:05:29.000 Lain of Denim Edition. Lain of Denim

02:05:49.000 Edition. Lain of Denim Edition.

02:06:19.000 That means it's the homestretch of this show.

02:06:21.000 Homestretch of the show.

02:06:22.000 Yeah.

02:06:23.000 Depending on where you...

02:06:24.000 What was that, Metallica?

02:06:25.000 That was something special.

02:06:27.000 That's all could be determined at this point.

02:06:27.000 That's all we know.

02:06:30.000 That was...

02:06:30.000 Gosh, the show went by so quickly because we had some great guests, and I guess people really liked the question and answer with the UMass stuff.

02:06:39.000 Oh, Stalker Jim showed back up on my timeline.

02:06:41.000 Well, I'm glad to see he's still doing okay.

02:06:44.000 And that's Hoppy chewing on his dead squirrel.

02:06:45.000 We got him a chew toy that looks like an SQU. If I say the actual word, his ears perk up and he goes nuts, and he is just killing this thing.

02:06:52.000 So it's been a good night.

02:06:54.000 It's been a good night.

02:06:55.000 It's been a big week.

02:06:55.000 It's been a stressful week, and there are some announcements here coming on the horizon.

02:07:00.000 If there's a takeaway here tonight, we were talking about Lena Dunham.

02:07:04.000 Sorry, not Lena Dunham.

02:07:05.000 It's so easy to confuse them now.

02:07:05.000 Amy Schumer.

02:07:07.000 It is.

02:07:08.000 They kind of just hop on the same train, and it's a train you never want to hop on for lots of reasons.

02:07:12.000 The problem is Amy Schumer was a funny stand-up comedian at one point. 0.99

02:07:16.000 Lena Dunham got a job because her dad drew vaginas. 1.00

02:07:19.000 Hey, everyone's got a resume that's full of interesting things. 0.97

02:07:22.000 I worked at Starbucks.

02:07:23.000 Some people dropped the jacks.

02:07:25.000 You'd be amazed at how many people just lie about their resumes and people don't even question them on it.

02:07:30.000 I will say this.

02:07:32.000 There's a certain cable news network that has somebody on there.

02:07:36.000 And no, it's not Ben Shapiro.

02:07:37.000 It has somebody on there who claims to be a Harvard lawyer who has never been to Harvard.

02:07:43.000 And there's a restraining order against this woman who I'm just trying to think. 0.94

02:07:52.000 You've said too much.

02:07:53.000 There's a restraining order against an organization in Vegas that showcases fighting.

02:07:58.000 So there's a restraining order against her for being a stalker, and she appears now on a cable news network, and they list her as a Harvard lawyer, and it is verifiably false.

02:08:07.000 So I'll leave that out there and people can do their own digging.

02:08:10.000 My goal is never to destroy anybody's career, but if you're a con artist for the Harvard Law box of con artists...

02:08:21.000 That's so easy to check.

02:08:22.000 It is.

02:08:22.000 It's so easy to check.

02:08:23.000 And I will say, of course, this person is a big Trump supporter.

02:08:26.000 That's all I'll say.

02:08:27.000 All I'll say, not a Harvard lawyer.

02:08:29.000 Well, you've said before, people didn't know.

02:08:31.000 People assume you have a college degree and stuff for a long time.

02:08:33.000 They hire you on and then realize way later.

02:08:35.000 I did well in college.

02:08:36.000 I didn't finish.

02:08:37.000 I've been pretty open about that on the show.

02:08:39.000 Yeah.

02:08:39.000 On the show, yeah.

02:08:40.000 But people don't bet you for that kind of stuff.

02:08:41.000 I did well when I went in.

02:08:42.000 And then my last semester, I bombed out because I was doing stand-up every single night.

02:08:48.000 Okay, here's a story.

02:08:49.000 Let me wrap that up.

02:08:50.000 My first experience like this, people say, well, how long have you...

02:08:52.000 I was 18 years old.

02:08:54.000 It was Champlain College, which was a place I was attending, and I was setting up a stand-up event at Champlain College in St.

02:09:00.000 Lambert.

02:09:01.000 And what happened was, it was a BS excuse, there was an open house going on on the weekend, and we were doing the show Friday night in the auditorium.

02:09:09.000 What they really didn't want was a show to happen, period, and the dean folded to these people, where they got us removed from the college to do stand-up.

02:09:15.000 And here's the thing, all of the proceeds at this point were going to Christmas Baskets.

02:09:20.000 Turkey Christmas baskets.

02:09:21.000 And we had already raised a lot of money.

02:09:23.000 People had pre-bought tickets.

02:09:24.000 And so what we did, we couldn't pull the show.

02:09:26.000 The college pulled it.

02:09:27.000 This kind of stuff happens all the time.

02:09:29.000 Was we rented out.

02:09:30.000 We lost, I think, another $600 to rent out the venue.

02:09:33.000 The French college, Du Rocher, across the street.

02:09:36.000 Literally right across the street from this college.

02:09:38.000 And then I had some people out there, I think my girlfriend at the time, and some friends with signs in front of Champlain College that same night directing them across the street. 0.93

02:09:47.000 So even back then, little Steven with the little jerk wheels turning, I thought, well, how can we stick it to these people for banning us?

02:09:52.000 And we lost a little bit of money, but the event still happened, and I think we still created like 50 Christmas baskets.

02:09:56.000 So this has been going on in my life for a long time.

02:09:59.000 And I wasn't inherently political.

02:10:00.000 I was just inherently offensive back then.

02:10:03.000 And so I was doing this and doing all the open mics.

02:10:05.000 So I did.

02:10:06.000 I bombed out my last semester of college.

02:10:08.000 The takeaway here, though, is to go back to Amy Schumer, Lena Dunham.

02:10:11.000 You know, you can't demand free birth control.

02:10:14.000 You can't demand subsidized women's health care and then get mad when the people paying for it have a say. 1.00

02:10:22.000 You can't demand higher taxes on the wealthy like Bernie Sanders.

02:10:25.000 You can't demand people paying their fair share, meaning more than half of every dollar, and then get mad when these people at the higher upper echelon have more pull in government than you do.

02:10:37.000 You can't do that.

02:10:38.000 You simply can't do it.

02:10:39.000 You can't demand that people who express opinions that you don't like be banned from campus.

02:10:46.000 You can't demand that safe spaces need to be created and hate speech needs to be regulated and then get mad when your freedom of speech goes away.

02:10:56.000 You can't demand that other people don't have the right to the firearms that you don't like but then get mad if they don't want you to hunt anymore.

02:11:06.000 You can't get mad when you demand that the government crack down and put more money into solar power and start cracking down on SUVs and then get mad when the prices of your cars go up.

02:11:17.000 Or then get mad when the UAW goes out of business because of meeting all of these requirements and they can't keep up or build competitive automobiles.

02:11:23.000 You can't look to the government.

02:11:26.000 You can't look to a centralized form of authority.

02:11:29.000 Whether it's government or school, Media?

02:11:32.000 You can't look to them and give over the reins of power and then get mad when they use them.

02:11:40.000 You can't do that.

02:11:42.000 You have to be consistent.

02:11:44.000 And so that's a big issue, obviously, that I would have with conservatives, Republicans who aren't conservative.

02:11:49.000 I don't want somebody who's going to be an executive abuser for our side.

02:11:55.000 I want the guy who doesn't want the job.

02:11:57.000 I don't want free condoms.

02:11:59.000 A lot of conservatives go over, if you're people, they think they're making a good argument.

02:12:02.000 If you're going to do free birth control, what about free prostate exams?

02:12:04.000 I don't want, first off, I don't want a prostate exam, period. 0.69

02:12:07.000 It sounds very unpleasant.

02:12:09.000 I probably won't do it.

02:12:10.000 I might take my chance with the cancer.

02:12:12.000 But I certainly don't want the government to mandate that a woman pays for it. 1.00

02:12:17.000 We're talking about this with Dean Cain.

02:12:19.000 Free school.

02:12:20.000 What are you really doing when you say free school?

02:12:23.000 What about people who chose not to go to school, chose to go to a trade school, or chose to start a business?

02:12:29.000 Or someone like me who said, you know what, I'm going to go be a stand-up comedian and do this full-time.

02:12:34.000 What are you doing?

02:12:35.000 You're not just, it sounds nice, free school, free birth control.

02:12:38.000 What you're really doing is forcing somebody who has autonomously made their own choice to not be involved in that activity.

02:12:44.000 You've now forced them to be involved because you have an opinion.

02:12:48.000 But then, you don't want them to have an opinion.

02:12:51.000 Pay for my birth control, but don't have an opinion on my sex life.

02:12:54.000 Pay for my school, but I have the right to say which speakers are allowed to come and go.

02:13:00.000 And that's where we are.

02:13:01.000 That's the social justice warrior left.

02:13:03.000 That's authoritarianism.

02:13:05.000 You do see it on the right as well as the left.

02:13:07.000 Mainly the left.

02:13:08.000 Be consistent.

02:13:09.000 Ladder with Crowder.

02:13:10.000 We'll see you next week.

Louder with Crowder - May 02, 2016

#72 UMASS AND TRIGGLYPUFF! Austin Petersen, Dean Cain, and Andrew Klavan | Louder With Crowder

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