In this episode of The Strangest Animal, host Stephen Crowder is joined by Not GayJared to discuss the latest in conservative politics, including the Carly Fiorina pick, the Trump administration, and the Trigglypuff Rant.
00:04:22.000Talk about perpetuating the original stereotype of no stamina.
00:04:25.000I was not yelling the androgynous amoeba.
00:04:28.000The person I was singling out was not Trigglypuff.
00:04:31.000However, what you didn't see in the rant was when we came out, very first thing when they introduced us, before we did our opening remarks, they introduced us, we come on stage.
00:04:39.000I did give Trigley Puff, I came out, first thing I see is this giant mass and a couple of friends, I think, giving me the finger as soon as I walk out before I've even said anything.
00:04:52.000So, I did give Trigley Puff this salute.
00:04:56.000Next, conservative comedian and host of the popular podcast Louder with Crowder, Stephen Crowder.
00:06:04.000However, the person I was specifically addressing, the androgynous little amoeba who was looking to get laid, was actually, and this is, you'll see him here, he asked a question later on, it was this young gentleman for clarity.
00:06:17.000Yeah, I wanted to ask if you guys were aware of the things that you said before about Islam, and I wonder if you guys are aware of of how that contributes to acts of violence against Muslim people and Islamophobia, but you kind of already answered it, so let me just say, fuck Trump and Black Lives Matter.
00:06:50.000So that was the guy I was going off on, because he was really, he had it in for me specifically, because of the, some people were there for Milo, they were mad about the gay stuff, even though he's gay, and then some people were there specifically angry about my Islam stuff, if you look at the Q&A. Well, that guy, he just, it was like a sketch.
00:07:33.000Which is ironic, because these kids don't even believe that they should be paying for school at all, but they believe that they should have a say on who somebody else pays as a guest.
00:07:42.000So, to give you an idea as to the entitlement here...
00:09:29.000For every protest you see like this, there's 20 behind the scenes where these people get folks fired, they boycott them, they get them banned so that they can't collect their speaking fees and make a living.
00:09:39.000So, that's where I start to lose the empathy.
00:10:13.000We rig the deck against young boys, and they're more confused and angry than ever.
00:10:17.000And people coming out and implying that all of these boys are somehow racist or sexist or perpetuating rape culture, you are going to screw up men for generations to come.
00:10:28.000And this androgynous, spineless amoeba here who wants to get with the social justice warrior drum circle...
00:10:35.000Listen, I'm not talking about some false sense of machismo.
00:10:39.000Why don't we start off by talking about families, by talking about getting married and staying with your wife, by talking about how to raise your kids properly.
00:10:46.000Let's teach young boys to be men, but oh no, we can't do that.
00:14:14.000Yeah, so I think there might have been somewhere between, I've heard, as low as 700, as high as 1,000 people at this venue, and maybe an eighth, a quarter to an eighth of them were yelling and protesting.
00:14:27.000So don't get this twisted in thinking that this is mainstream.
00:15:11.000We'll go back to kind of going through.
00:15:12.000For those who haven't watched the full video, we have it up at louderwithcrader.com, the whole one-and-a-half-hour panel debate with Milo, who was great, of course, and Christina Hoff Summers, who was stellar.
00:17:17.000Something that was a big irony, for people who talked about rape culture and patriarchy and trying to silence women, they missed one key irony, and when I brought it up, they certainly weren't too comfortable.
00:20:48.000Listen, you have, right here on this panel, you have a gay British Trump supporter, okay?
00:20:59.000You have a lifelong registered Democrat, open feminist, who's not a third-wave feminist, and you have a French-Canadian Christian conservative.
00:21:08.000So you may ask, why is there only white people?
00:21:11.000Because the only diversity you don't care about is that of intellectual diversity.
00:23:36.000Gosh, in my head I was going to Austin Peterson for President, and we don't know what kind of a site that could be on the Internet, so we want to make sure they get it right.
00:23:43.000Austin, thank you for coming on the show.
00:23:49.000We had Julia Barofsky on and she was talking about you.
00:23:51.000I hate to say this, not that you're an underdog, but it was kind of assumed Gary Johnson and she was the one who really brought up your name and spoke highly of you.
00:23:59.000What's it like in 2016 with this crazy election running for the nomination for the Libertarian Party?
00:24:06.000I'm actually positioned really well because, unfortunately, it looks as if Trump is probably going to win the Republican nomination, and unfortunately, it looks like Hillary might win the Democratic nomination, which would mean that I would basically be the only pro-life, pro-liberty, pro-constitutional candidate on the ballot.
00:24:21.000So if I can win the nomination of my party, I think that we may see an exodus from the two major parties looking for someone who represents American values in a broader way.
00:24:35.000Do you really think a Libertarian candidate has a shot at winning?
00:24:39.000It depends, and there's a lot of different fights to be won, of course.
00:24:44.000Winning the White House is the big one, and that's the longest shot, but one of the biggest fights that we can win is to get into the national debates, and if we can get a candidate who, at a minimum, can win 5% of the national vote, that puts us as a major party status, and that would shake up and revolutionize American politics, because it gives us ballot access, because we have to spend millions of dollars just to get on the ballot across the country.
00:25:06.000So I'm looking at lots of different fights That I can win.
00:25:09.000The big fight is obviously the one that I would love to win, but I would be just absolutely ecstatic if I could double the national vote total.
00:25:18.000Historically, the LP has only gotten 1%, so I think that I can bring us a little bit down the road towards the kinds of ideas and policies that I advocate for.
00:26:03.000And libertarians believe in personal responsibility.
00:26:05.000There's nothing that'll get you in trouble faster than to tell people that you should be personally responsible.
00:26:10.000Because when you say you're pro-choice, well, you do have a choice not to have sex.
00:26:14.000So the question is, at what point do we start talking about people having a choice?
00:26:18.000So I will be a moral leader against abortion, and I will make the case for why I think that we should move towards a society that is more pro-life.
00:26:25.000The problem is that when you start talking about something like the consistent pro-life ethic, then you have to start talking about the death penalty.
00:26:32.000And the conservatives who love me about being pro-life for the babies start getting angry because I'm pro-life all the way across the board.
00:26:38.000That means ending the death penalty as well.
00:26:50.000And I think some libertarians were mad that I said, yeah, people don't like it in their state.
00:26:53.000They have the right to say no in my state.
00:26:55.000And a lot of libertarians get mad at that.
00:26:56.000So I think we're probably more in line there.
00:26:59.000You think the federal government should punt on murder?
00:27:01.000I know as far as states deciding on whether they believe in the death penalty or not, but wouldn't that fall under the role of the federal government for murder to be illegal across the board?
00:27:22.000Seems like most libertarians, even anarchists, would say, yeah, that's one of the things that we think government should have across the board.
00:27:31.000Yeah, well, define murder, because some people say that all murders should be punished the same way, but there's a reason why we have murder in the first degree and murder in the second degree.
00:27:40.000So if you look at abortion, for example, some people would say that the abortifacients, for example, RU486, the morning after pill, would be murder.
00:27:49.000So I would probably disagree with them on that.
00:27:51.000But in terms of how you should prosecute it, I think that it's best prosecuted at the state level.
00:27:58.000Does the federal government have the right to say murder is illegal, period?
00:28:02.000Or do you think that if a state wants to say, no, we want murder illegal in Arkansas, who knows what they do in Arkansas, that they have the right to do that?
00:28:11.000The question really does lie in enforcement.
00:28:14.000I think the problem is that if you try and say, oh, murder is illegal across the board, well, then what kind of authoritarian government would you create in order to ensure that every single state is complying?
00:28:25.000The only way that you could go in legally and say, okay, constitutionally the federal government can come in is to use the clause that states that the government shall ensure a Republican form of governance in every state.
00:28:37.000So you've got to start broadening the reach of the federal government.
00:28:41.000You've got to start expanding the power of the federal government.
00:28:43.000And that kind of stuff makes me very nervous.
00:28:45.000So again, I think that it should be best decided at the federal law.
00:28:50.000Different states have different methods of prosecuting, like you said, kinds of murder.
00:28:54.000But murder across the board is entirely illegal.
00:28:57.000So I'm just saying that because I know people who might be considering you could consider that alarming, where it's like, well, hold on a second.
00:29:04.000Because a lot of libertarians say, well, no, of course we think the government should outlaw murder, stealing, any crime that hurts anybody else.
00:29:08.000That falls under the legitimate role of federal government and then everything else to the states.
00:29:15.000Are you talking about prosecuting or does the federal government have the authority to say, no, no states can make murder legal?
00:29:21.000I don't really think the federal government needs to be getting involved in telling the states what they need to prosecute or what is murder or what isn't murder.
00:30:05.000I'm not talking about getting into the pro-life issue, because it seems like it gets difficult to get into the pro-life issue if we don't say, yeah, a guy stabbed his wife and her husband in their sleep, and that's murder.
00:30:16.000I mean, do you want to give them the power to define what is manslaughter?
00:30:19.000Do you want to give them the power to define what is a DUI? Do you want to give them the power to say what is the minimum drinking age that should be across every state?
00:30:27.000The problem is it always relies on enforcement.
00:30:29.000It always comes down to what the federal government's role is going to be.
00:30:33.000And to me, the federal government's role should be very limited.
00:31:06.000Is there some value there, or does it need to be scrapped altogether?
00:31:10.000I think that there's something to be said for a parliamentary system.
00:31:13.000In Britain, for example, they have question time for their prime minister.
00:31:16.000I would love to see President Obama have to stand up in front of a Republican Congress where they just scream at him and ask him questions, and they're able to get answers from him.
00:31:35.000And if you're for a limited government, then you have to understand that the way that the Constitution was written, it did end up with a two-party system, but also that it stopped people's ambitions.
00:31:47.000It slows down legislation from being passed so that the whims of the masses would not come in and change the system overnight.
00:31:55.000So when people talk about gridlock in Washington, I start saying, well, yeah, absolutely.
00:31:59.000We want that gridlock because we don't want them passing all of their evil plans.
00:32:04.000No, I agree with you, and that's one of those things we've talked about, where it's really nice to throw out the word and say, we need to stop being politically divided.
00:33:12.000You don't have a right to vote to take away my free speech.
00:33:15.000So there are certain intrinsic natural rights that citizens have in this constitutional republic that no one has the right to vote on.
00:33:21.000So when we talk about unifying or we talk about all coming together for bipartisanship, well, I have to throw the monkey wrench in there.
00:33:27.000And that's what I'm trying to do as a libertarian, is to try and throw some monkey wrenches in the gears to try and stop this ship of statism.
00:33:34.000Because truly, I think we are a minority.
00:33:37.000Honestly, I think that the masses now are trending heavily socially Democrat.
00:33:42.000And that's why I praise the founders for this constitutional republic, because this means that people like yourself and myself shouldn't be railroaded by things like Obamacare.
00:33:52.000We're not a single Republican voted for it.
00:33:56.000Because I hear this a lot where people go, oh, you know, if Republicans fought as vehemently against Obama as they do against Trump, we wouldn't have him.
00:34:02.000Or Republicans didn't do a damn thing about Obamacare.
00:34:12.000So even though you're a libertarian, and I would agree with you, listen, I think the Republican Party is broken and there are pansies there who need to be ejected.
00:34:19.000We can both acknowledge there still is a contrast on some of those issues, right?
00:34:23.000It's not entirely basically needing to be flushed down the drain.
00:34:29.000Of course, the Republicans always talk a good game about limited government, but when's the last time that we saw a Republican actually follow through?
00:34:35.000Well, voting against Obamacare, like you said.
00:34:37.000I mean, I would say that's at least a contrast there, where if people just want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, well, hold on a second, not a single one supporting what's become a disaster.
00:35:31.000But if there was perhaps an electromagnetic pulse and somehow Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump died and I've won by default, then you'd have Austin Peterson as president.
00:35:42.000You'd want people like Rand Paul and Mike Lee and Ted Cruz to write the proper legislation to send it to me to sign.
00:35:55.000I know not perfect in the eyes of libertarians, but would you say he's one of the better Republicans, one of the good guys in the Republican Party?
00:36:03.000So if you weren't running for the Libertarian Party and you were someone who's like, well, I have to vote Republican, and right now it's down to Trump or Cruz.
00:36:10.000I know you have to go a long way here.
00:36:46.000tune ladder with crowder we take you now to a live debate between john stossel and social justice warrior schuyler See, the thing about free college is when you add up the taxes and the incentives and the financial grants, it isn't free.
00:39:40.000You're going to need somebody who can draw from those Bernie supporters who won't go for Hillary Clinton because they want somebody who wants to end the banking cartels, the Federal Reserve, somebody who wants to end the war on drugs, somebody who wants to end the corporatism in the system, allow people to buy insurance across state lines.
00:39:55.000That's ending the insurance cartels right there.
00:39:57.000That's the kind of stuff that perks up Democrats' ears.
00:40:02.000I wouldn't put the insurance one in there.
00:40:04.000I've never heard a Democrat express it.
00:40:06.000Democrats do say that they think that the insurance industry is corrupt.
00:40:10.000So when you start talking about allowing people to purchase across state lines and competition, bringing down those big insurance companies that we've bailed out, then Democrats do start to say, oh yeah, this is the corporatism of the system.
00:40:30.000Right, yeah, this is like third-party candidates that I speak to.
00:40:33.000So, moving on to the Republicans, they're going to want somebody who represents real, true conservative values, somebody who wants limited government, somebody who wants to be a fiscal conservative, somebody who wants to cut taxes, cut spending, who still wants a national defense but doesn't think that the United States should be the policeman of the world.
00:40:48.000So the question is, which candidate embodies all of those values?
00:40:53.000With Gary Johnson, although he has a good record as governor of New Mexico, I think that he's not able to articulate these principles in a way that gets people excited.
00:41:02.000And you have to have boots on the ground to win an election.
00:41:06.000He was able to inspire people to actually get out on the street and pull a lever.
00:41:09.000Gary Johnson doesn't tend to be the type to inspire people to activism, whereas I do.
00:41:14.000I'm experienced in building national coalitions.
00:41:16.000I've got a long history in the Tea Party movement.
00:41:19.000Fighting Obamacare, and I think that if the American people actually figure out, hey, this kid exists, then I think I could build a broad national movement.
00:42:23.000He started talking about we need to have a conversation about mental health screening for background checks.
00:42:28.000And the problem is, is one of the things that you didn't see in that Stalzel forum was during the break, a veteran stood up and said, hey, just so you know, Governor...
00:43:49.000And we don't have due process if you can just be diagnosed with PTSD and have your guns taken away, or if you can have a psychiatrist write a note and have your guns taken away.
00:43:57.000Usually you have to go through a court.
00:44:11.000So I'm going to make a stink about that because I think that we need somebody who's going to represent our values completely and fully and unabashedly and not give in to the social justice warriors just because we're afraid of being politically incorrect.
00:44:23.000And that is one thing I think we can both agree.
00:44:24.000Well, it started off that way with Donald Trump, where people were glad, going, okay, here's a guy who's not afraid to just stand up to these people.
00:44:31.000And then with the whole trans thing, he kind of bent over and took it with North Carolina and just towed the line.
00:45:14.000And before we go, listen, people listening, if you hate Trump or hate Cruz, do not refrain from voting because of the down-ballot candidates.
00:45:21.000So you can go in and have a protest vote, at least with Austin Peterson, and still vote for your local representatives.
00:45:26.000Ladder with Crowder, Austin Peterson, thank you, sir.
00:47:15.000Yeah, he actually is really strong on social justice leftists, and he had some commentary when we were talking during the break about the UMass event.
00:47:23.000We just didn't want to make it all about me.
00:47:52.000I didn't see it myself, but they said it was.
00:47:55.000We're going to hear some bad stories about that young lady.
00:47:58.000Someone at CJ Beeth asked me, do you think the hecklers added to the conversation as you had something to respond to or merely were an annoyance?
00:48:04.000You know, this is actually a good question.
00:48:06.000Because, you know, I mean, you've seen me do, what was the last time when I was in Battle Creek?
00:48:10.000It was like an hour of stand-up and then another hour of Q&A. Something like that, right?
00:48:15.000Yeah, 45-45 hour-hour, something like that.
00:48:17.000And you've seen me do stand-up, and that's obviously my first choice.
00:48:29.000And it happened when I was doing stand-up and I started, when I used to do these teen shows at the Comedy Nest, where sometimes people would heckle because they wanted to see how mad I would get and go off.
00:48:39.000The problem is that can become your shtick, and you don't want to do that.
00:48:42.000And sometimes feel like, oh, I'm part of the show, and so they keep speaking.
00:49:34.000But every now and then, this goes back to the book that I was writing.
00:49:38.000I think I've told the audience about this.
00:49:40.000Eventually I'll just release the book for free.
00:49:42.000I don't really need the money and we're pretty grateful.
00:49:44.000So maybe I'll just release the e-book for free for those who sign up for the Mug Club as we start launching this in premium content.
00:49:51.000It was about recognizing the two different kinds of liberals.
00:49:56.000Now, there's a term, because I pitched this book when I was at Fox News many years ago, and the conservative publisher said, we have no interest in this.
00:50:02.000We don't like doing anything that's funny.
00:50:04.000Right now is the doomsday Obama books.
00:50:22.000This is what I called them four or five years ago.
00:50:24.000Modern leftists versus default liberals.
00:50:27.000And there are a lot of people in that audience who came up afterward, people wearing Bernie Sanders shirts, saying, hey, you really gave me a lot to think about.
00:50:35.000You know, I was really, I'm glad someone finally said something to these people.
00:51:03.000And then you need to understand that there are some people, like Trigley Puff, or Tom, the Blink-182 bro tank guy, who have a vested interest in keeping the lie alive because they've made it their entire cause.
00:51:15.000And so those people can't be convinced.
00:51:38.000In this case, the only appropriate response was to make an example of the people who couldn't be convinced in order to reach the people who were willing to listen.
00:52:33.000I mean, I performed in the back of a laundromat once, an open mic, and at a Chuck E. Cheese where they rented a room for a grad party when I was in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
00:52:56.000How was the moderator able to keep his cool, and why didn't he realize asking the crowd to shut up wasn't working?
00:53:02.000I do respect him keeping his cool, but when I got the standing O for the intellectual diversity line, he's like, everyone, sit down, sit down.
00:55:18.000I'm not necessarily super pro-death penalty.
00:55:21.000I think whatever is the cheapest way to dispose of the trash, and unfortunately with our current court system of appeals, it's more expensive to put them to death than keep them alive.
00:55:30.000So it's not an issue I talk about a whole lot.
00:55:34.000If a state wants to do a death penalty, fine.
00:55:35.000If they don't, it's not one where I get super upset, but I certainly don't think it's inconsistent for somebody to support the death penalty and not abortion.
00:55:44.000Again, this comes down to, do you believe it's a life, and then do you believe in the idea of innocent until proven guilty?
01:01:30.000Have I gotten to the point, because I've defended her in the realm of comedy, saying I think she can be funny, and now she's gone full social justice leftist.
01:01:36.000People said, is she at the point where you're willing to say that she's not funny?
01:03:27.000There might be some big plans for Lauder with Crowder coming up here that you may get a lot more than you bargained for, and then you might not like us anymore.
01:03:36.000So let's talk about News of the Week real quick, and then we'll get to your questions, because, oh my gosh, the phone lines, the Twitter lines are lighting up.
01:03:41.000Ted Cruz picked Carly Fiorina as VP. Everyone knows I love Carly Fiorina.
01:04:33.000Because same thing like social justice warriors, you get the same thing with old Republicans, who when they see guests on our show and the very next segment is spot the tranny, they message them and they get gun-shy to come back.
01:04:43.000Listen, right now, we're very blessed, but if you are a Republican candidate, a conservative candidate, and you want to hit that demographic of people who are under the age of 40, our average viewer listener is a 28-year-old, typically male, you need to come through here.
01:04:59.000And I will say this, for the alt-right, they're right about this.
01:05:03.000Even though the numbers don't bear out, and Donald Trump is immensely unpopular with millennials, two, Carly Fiorina and Senator Ted Cruz, Maybe not me.
01:06:10.000Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina often abandon them.
01:06:12.000And I'm telling you, sorry, there are only so many corn husking Christian conservatives in that baby boomer generation who can carry you to an election, and I don't think there are enough.
01:08:04.000And it said, even though the guy yelled out, he was exercising free speech, it doesn't give Stephen the right to call him an androgynous amoeba.
01:08:11.000It's just, there's something about an adult complaining about an insult in writing that just, like, you just feel like they need to be keel-hauled.
01:08:20.000But the punchline for me was the fact, sign so-and-so, communications.
01:10:46.000I don't know the answer to that question, but I know it's coming out soon because I've done the ADR for it, so it's the next step of getting there.
01:10:53.000So I'm imagining within the next few months.
01:10:58.000Well, we've had Anne and Philemon, and gosh, that's the kind of thing where I thank God for the internet and being able to bypass studio executives these days with crowdfunding because there's no way that would have been made 10 years ago.
01:11:16.000We'll get to news of the day, but last time we had you on, you did mention, you know, you were socially liberal, fiscally conservative, but you've been in some of these Christian-themed films.
01:11:26.000So where does that line up personally?
01:12:10.000For me, choosing to do a faith-based movie is no different than choosing to do any other type of film.
01:12:16.000I enjoy them because they usually have a message and they say some things that make sense in life, morality and so on and so forth.
01:12:24.000But I don't specifically pick them because I'm pushing Christianity on anybody in any way, shape or form.
01:12:29.000Do you think a part of it too is just because it sounds like you're more open-minded to all sides and a lot of people in the industry would not touch a Christian film with a 10-foot pole?
01:12:39.000Yeah, well, you know, there's a lot of things like that that people have set up these walls, if you will, whether they wouldn't go do a Christian film or they wouldn't play gay in a film or to do this.
01:12:50.000I've never listened to that convention.
01:12:51.000I've always just decided based on the merit of the project and as an artist, someone who gets to make movies and do this, I think it's great to be able to play against type or play different kinds of roles.
01:14:14.000I think it might hurt him because people have sort of painted her as this rhino establishment, but that's the attack that's used against anyone.
01:14:20.000So I know, obviously, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, but contrasting with Trump, you line up significantly more with that ticket than a Trump.
01:14:29.000I think a Trump ticket is Trump Trump.
01:14:31.000I think he's going to fill both slots.
01:14:38.000Listen, I like what he's done to the race.
01:14:40.000I like that his frank talk is done to the race and such, but I just don't know that I want him to be my commander-in-chief, President of the United States.
01:14:47.000I just don't know that he feels like the guy.
01:16:18.000My dad always said the two things people say, don't discuss religion and politics, the two things that matter and largely define who you are, even if you're against religion.
01:16:25.000It still defines you then at that point.
01:16:36.000I don't think that any of the left in the entertainment industry, I don't think that you have this discussion and you bring a lot of them to your way of thinking.
01:16:41.000I think that people who are like, well, I guess maybe Hillary, they can kind of be brought along the trail, but in the entertainment industry, they were so vitriolic.
01:16:49.000And they have a vested interest, right, in this sort of bubble being kept in pristine working order.
01:16:56.000Do you really feel like a lot of people in the entertainment industry can be swayed?
01:17:00.000Oh, I don't think they can be swayed so much as they will just tolerate my opinion.
01:17:05.000That's because you're Dean Cain and you flash him a smile and they tolerate it.
01:17:10.000What I find is that they will – they get so angry sometimes when we're having a conversation.
01:17:15.000They can't even have the conversation.
01:17:17.000They don't want to have the conversation.
01:17:19.000That to me is just the ultimate hypocrisy.
01:17:21.000It's like, look, if you're claiming to be so open and so inclusive and all this but you won't listen to another opinion – Aren't you basically being a total hypocrite?
01:17:32.000I don't think they will answer that question.
01:17:34.000I think they'll move on down the trail to the next executive.
01:17:36.000Speaking of which, okay, this is something that's always interested me.
01:17:38.000You know, Hillary, the Clintons were Hollywood's darlings, and then they kind of turned on her for Barack Obama.
01:17:43.000And even if you look at the entertainment industry, the majority of them turned on Hillary for Bernie.
01:17:48.000When it came down to the wire, like, ah, we just can't.
01:17:51.000Have you felt that being out there in L.A., working in Hollywood, where it was kind of assumed it was going to be Hillary, and a lot of people just going...
01:17:59.000Man, I just think this woman's a witch on wheels.
01:18:52.000And to me, it's crazy that these kids don't want to pay for school, but then they want to shout down the groups that actually do pay to bring in guests.
01:18:59.000I've never seen a generation more entitled, and those are the people voting Bernie.
01:19:08.000And if I were a parent of any of those kids, first of all, my son would never do that, just because I've raised him differently.
01:19:16.000He would listen to someone who had an opinion that differed from his, and he'd respect them and listen to what they have to say and disagree with them all he wants.
01:19:41.000I'm like, oh, come on, because blah, blah, blah, and then they'll say something similar to that, and I'll say, that person's this, and I don't know.
01:19:46.000And he hears it, and he, because he has to eat.
01:23:12.000It should be a cautionary tale, Dean, where you tell your son, here, this is what happens when you don't do things correctly, and just send him this show and not gay Jared.
01:25:05.000You've made that clear, but this is proper procedure, and you'd have to pull over, or you can just go on back to the United States, you know?
01:26:56.000Does he have any idea as to, not to get obviously super personal, but this is interesting because I've talked about this with guests who go, well, not everyone has to go to college.
01:27:03.000But then in the conservative circle, there's this elitism.
01:27:19.000And the truth is, you know, I don't want to...
01:27:22.000Half the kids that I was at Princeton with were so stressed out by the time they got there, there would be like the midnight disappearance.
01:28:18.000And the truth is, if people have a proclivity toward that, toward addiction, and they just think it's college and fun, it can mess them up.
01:28:38.000And you can find that person in college.
01:28:39.000But if you stay hidden behind closed doors...
01:28:42.000You're not social enough to get out there.
01:28:43.000I mean, that's where you figure out a lot of things.
01:28:45.000I saw some guys have some problems in college, and we identified it.
01:28:49.000We're like, dude, you shouldn't drink.
01:28:50.000Well, you played football, so probably a lot of those people are dead.
01:28:54.000No, the lifespan is not, you know, for a lot of these, with the brain injuries and they just beat up their body, a lot of them get addicted to painkillers.
01:29:00.000I mean, they can be great guys, but like my friend who played football at, well, Gerald, we have him on the show all the time, at Notre Dame.
01:29:05.000Like, those people are, people think of the struggling sort of artist and the drugs and that's the idea of the tortured creative mind.
01:29:12.000It is actually just as prevalent among athletes because of the pain they go through.
01:33:51.000This warning is specifically for all Canadians.
01:33:54.000Lena Dunham has threatened to move to your great land if Donald Trump becomes president.
01:34:01.000This burden will be accompanied by horrible television programming, false claims of rape, and long-term famine due to the over-consumption of your country's abundant natural resources.
01:37:47.000Oh, they're running out of you, George Costanza, you androgynous little amoeba.
01:37:51.000And by the way, these opinions you're yelling out, they're not even your opinions.
01:37:55.000They're your opinions from your gender studies professor, and the really reason you picked it was because you thought it was your best chance at getting laid.
01:38:00.000That your very glance in the direction of a woman causes a barren womb.
01:39:44.000And you were like a pot-smoking hippie, I think, back in the day.
01:39:47.000How does this compare to that era, would you say?
01:39:50.000You know, well, I thought what you said, one of the things that you said that was so accurate in your rant was when you said that the guys who originally were fighting, they were idiots in a lot of ways, but they were fighting against the system.
01:40:03.000They thought they were fighting for more freedom.
01:40:05.000They thought they were fighting for, they called themselves the free speech movement where I was in Berkeley.
01:40:09.000So, you know, they actually had at least an idea that the dialogue should open up, that radical ideas should be allowed in.
01:40:34.000You never have to say, hey, you know, I'm looking at this city where all you great non-racist Democrats are running things, and all the black people are moving out.
01:40:54.000Your wife's a sweet lady, Andrew Clavin.
01:40:57.000And she's named Carl, for those who don't know.
01:40:59.000Those words would never cross her lips.
01:41:02.000But, you know, you never have to say, hey, there's been feminism now for, you know, 40 years and women are more unhappy.
01:41:08.000Women are committing suicide and all these, you know, how come?
01:41:11.000Because all you have to do, all you have to do if you're one of these social justice warriors is point at a conservative and make that noise that Donald Sutherland makes at the end of Invasion of the Body Snatchers and the conversation is over.
01:42:17.000And I hate to see that come here because I thought America was one big box where we were allowed to say anything we damn well pleased.
01:42:23.000Well, I just picture that being like one game of Jenga and a government official is just shuffling the boxes so he falls off and then they put him in the stocks.
01:42:29.000That's where the idea of a soapbox comes from, somebody on his soapbox.
01:42:32.000Yeah, a lot of people don't realize some of these anecdotes that we use, these colloquialisms, are actually rooted in history.
01:42:39.000Okay, speaking of history, I do have to give you a tough question here.
01:42:41.000Someone wanted me to ask where you tweeted out, America first, the phrase just adopted by Trump, was a movement led by Nazi sympathizer Charles Lindbergh to keep the U.S. neutral in World War II. And this person wants to ask why you pull the Nazi card on Trump but not on Cruz for the same phrase.
01:44:56.000Yeah, and you know, the alt-right, you have to understand, too, like, they've gone after Shapiro, they've kind of gone after me, but a lot of them are just, you know, they want to be disturbers because it's a retaliation to the social justice warrior culture, and so I cut them some slack until they start sending, you know, Jews, pictures of dead Jews.
01:45:12.000But I think if you keep that in that context, it's not as bothersome.
01:46:24.000Hey, if you're listening to if you're listening to or watching this podcast, there's a strong chance that you are not yet following me on Twitter, where I'm tweeting all day long.
01:46:53.000I'm ticking off the social justice warriors.
01:46:55.000You should see the amount of hate I get on there.
01:46:57.000Far, far, far worse than any Fat Sports Illustrated model or Black Lives Matter charlatan.
01:47:04.000You get to be entertained and you can chime in.
01:47:06.000Also, if you're following me on Twitter, you can send me your tweets and maybe you'll be lucky enough.
01:47:11.000And I mean lucky enough because I have a lot of followers, okay, that they call me the follower machine to have your tweet to me or not gay Jared included in our rockinest tweet of the week.
01:51:00.000No, I don't have to be a half-two to have that opinion.
01:51:02.000I explain to them, you know, that I am a Jew, but I've converted to Christianity, so while they're burning in hell for their anti-Semitic crap, I'm going to be having a gin and coke!
01:51:57.000No, I agree with you, and I think that's disturbing.
01:52:00.000My issue, too, I really hate that right now with the Republican Party, and like you're talking about these people who go after you or Shapiro, and they go after me, but I just don't care so much because I'm an entertainer, is they've made people like you a bigger target than the left.
01:52:14.000And I was talking with Milo about this, too, and obviously he doesn't necessarily believe that, but a lot of these people think you're a bigger enemy for not getting in line with Donald Trump.
01:52:24.000And I just really think these people, if they're attacking you and Ben Shapiro, I'm going, listen, I'm glad you have a new phase you're in.
01:52:31.000But these people have paved the way for many, many years.
01:52:34.000And one last thing, too, when people say, if people have fought this much against Obama as they do against Trump, we wouldn't have Obama.
01:52:49.000I'm glad just to have Trump, so I have somebody else to attack at this point.
01:52:52.000You know, look, you know, the idea that because Trump has an R after his name and is, you know, a putative Republican, and the idea that because he says America first and wears a red hat and all this stuff, that he's a conservative, that he represents what America represents, that's just simplistic and silly.
01:53:09.000I mean, the guy's history is not a good history.
01:53:12.000I mean, as he himself would say, bad, very bad, you know?
01:53:14.000I think that, you know, his business dealings are suspect.
01:53:24.000And what I don't understand is that Trump supporters keep saying, well, he was in business so he had to lie to people and give money to the opposite side.
01:53:33.000What makes them think he's not doing that to them?
01:53:35.000Why do they think, if he's betrayed every idea he's ever had, if he's betrayed every person he's ever, what makes him think they're not betraying him?
01:54:25.000The only words I can think of to describe it is induced insanity.
01:54:28.000I mean, I think that there are, I think one thing, there are kids, a lot of kids are on drugs, a psychotropic, you know, prescription drugs to deal with depression and all this stuff.
01:55:27.000They have been told, some of these girls have been told that they should feel about sex the way men feel about sex, which is just so destructive.
01:55:35.000And to be honest with you, men shouldn't always feel the way men feel about sex.
01:55:39.000You know, men should have reined themselves in a little bit.
01:55:41.000You know, and they're lost and they're alone and they get this idea that somehow their self-esteem is dependent on your behavior.
01:55:50.000I mean, think about this for a minute, Stephen.
01:55:52.000You know, you and I get called every name in the book every single day.
01:55:55.000I don't lose a minute's sleep over it.
01:57:13.00029,000 students at Amherst, only maybe 50 at most were there to protest and stir up crap.
01:57:19.000They're not the majority, and they're going away.
01:57:22.000But they have a sympathetic media, they have a sympathetic entertainment industry, and they have a sympathetic administration in higher education.
01:59:17.000So I'll send you one of those, and if you wear it on your show, we can cross-promote that.
01:59:21.000By the way, we have a little bit longer, but I know dailywire.com, if people want to subscribe directly to you, what's the best link of communication to Andrew Klavan directly?
01:59:30.000Well, I think you can go on andrewklavan.com if you like, but you can also subscribe to the podcast, which is Monday through Thursday, so you get a lot of content there.
01:59:39.000But I have my own website, AndrewClavin.com.
02:01:25.000I love Milo and Christina Hoff Summers, but you've known me for a long time.
02:01:28.000It's one thing they show up and lecture.
02:01:29.000And I felt, I got so mad because Christina is so nice, and she keeps talking over herself because she can't hear.
02:01:37.000And I'm saying, well, that's not because she's inarticulate.
02:01:38.000She can't hear herself, and our sound is going out.
02:01:40.000And the difference is, I'm a comedian, and I knew I wasn't going to get jokes out, and I know I can kind of do that, so I said, okay, if I need to fall on this sword or just kamikaze bomb into the audience to hopefully silence them for a bit, I have to do it.
02:01:54.000And then they quieted down for like two minutes.
02:01:55.000And then they, you know, once the enforcer was sitting in the chair, they started speaking up again.
02:02:00.000You know, I think the thing that really does worry me, especially since we look like we're looking, we have a good chance of getting Hillary Clinton as president.
02:02:08.000And Hillary Clinton is very antithetical to free speech.
02:02:11.000I mean, Hillary Clinton hates this, you know, that Supreme Court decision that It came out of the fact that somebody did a video critical of her.
02:02:24.000That's one of the most misunderstood court cases ever.
02:02:27.000It's totally misunderstood, and people have to keep explaining it.
02:02:30.000But one of the things that worries me is these kids have lost the plot of free speech.
02:02:34.000They don't understand why it's good, why it trumps, as it were, hate speech and all that stuff, and why we put up with hate speech in order to have free speech.
02:02:43.000Now we actually do have 30 seconds, but I think that's a better point to end on.
02:02:47.000Now you can go enjoy that sandwich in peace.
02:02:50.000Andrew Klavan on Twitter, at AndrewKlavanDailyWire.com.
02:02:53.000I highly recommend this podcast, and I will go on this podcast, and I will bridle my tongue.
02:06:30.000Gosh, the show went by so quickly because we had some great guests, and I guess people really liked the question and answer with the UMass stuff.
02:06:39.000Oh, Stalker Jim showed back up on my timeline.
02:06:41.000Well, I'm glad to see he's still doing okay.
02:06:44.000And that's Hoppy chewing on his dead squirrel.
02:06:45.000We got him a chew toy that looks like an SQU. If I say the actual word, his ears perk up and he goes nuts, and he is just killing this thing.
02:07:53.000There's a restraining order against an organization in Vegas that showcases fighting.
02:07:58.000So there's a restraining order against her for being a stalker, and she appears now on a cable news network, and they list her as a Harvard lawyer, and it is verifiably false.
02:08:07.000So I'll leave that out there and people can do their own digging.
02:08:10.000My goal is never to destroy anybody's career, but if you're a con artist for the Harvard Law box of con artists...
02:09:01.000And what happened was, it was a BS excuse, there was an open house going on on the weekend, and we were doing the show Friday night in the auditorium.
02:09:09.000What they really didn't want was a show to happen, period, and the dean folded to these people, where they got us removed from the college to do stand-up.
02:09:15.000And here's the thing, all of the proceeds at this point were going to Christmas Baskets.
02:09:30.000We lost, I think, another $600 to rent out the venue.
02:09:33.000The French college, Du Rocher, across the street.
02:09:36.000Literally right across the street from this college.
02:09:38.000And then I had some people out there, I think my girlfriend at the time, and some friends with signs in front of Champlain College that same night directing them across the street.
02:09:47.000So even back then, little Steven with the little jerk wheels turning, I thought, well, how can we stick it to these people for banning us?
02:09:52.000And we lost a little bit of money, but the event still happened, and I think we still created like 50 Christmas baskets.
02:09:56.000So this has been going on in my life for a long time.
02:10:06.000I bombed out my last semester of college.
02:10:08.000The takeaway here, though, is to go back to Amy Schumer, Lena Dunham.
02:10:11.000You know, you can't demand free birth control.
02:10:14.000You can't demand subsidized women's health care and then get mad when the people paying for it have a say.
02:10:22.000You can't demand higher taxes on the wealthy like Bernie Sanders.
02:10:25.000You can't demand people paying their fair share, meaning more than half of every dollar, and then get mad when these people at the higher upper echelon have more pull in government than you do.
02:10:39.000You can't demand that people who express opinions that you don't like be banned from campus.
02:10:46.000You can't demand that safe spaces need to be created and hate speech needs to be regulated and then get mad when your freedom of speech goes away.
02:10:56.000You can't demand that other people don't have the right to the firearms that you don't like but then get mad if they don't want you to hunt anymore.
02:11:06.000You can't get mad when you demand that the government crack down and put more money into solar power and start cracking down on SUVs and then get mad when the prices of your cars go up.
02:11:17.000Or then get mad when the UAW goes out of business because of meeting all of these requirements and they can't keep up or build competitive automobiles.