Louder with Crowder - #76 LET’S GAY ALL THE THINGS! Matt Mitrione, Dr. Boniface, and Chad with AIDS | Louder With Crowder

00:00:02.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.

00:00:06.000 Politics.

00:00:07.000 Civility?

00:00:08.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

00:00:10.000 Entertainment.

00:00:11.000 I don't like entertainment!

00:00:13.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:00:16.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:00:18.000 If you have a very unhealthy body, you should have a horrible body image.

00:00:21.000 Not a big home improvement market in Detroit.

00:00:22.000 Ha! 0.89

00:00:23.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

00:00:26.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal. 0.97

00:00:30.000 You're a strange animal. 0.95

00:00:32.000 That's what I know. 0.99

00:00:33.000 You're getting louder with Crowder. 0.99

00:00:37.000 But you're a strange animal. 0.88

00:00:39.000 I've got to follow. 0.89

00:00:42.000 Oh, I'm in this spiritus.

00:00:46.000 Glad to be with you.

00:00:47.000 So glad to be with you.

00:00:49.000 That sound.

00:00:51.000 My microphone is on.

00:00:52.000 Was I on earlier?

00:00:53.000 Not gay? 0.99

00:00:53.000 Okay. 0.99

00:00:54.000 Glad to be with you.

00:00:55.000 That sound means it's the sound of the weekend.

00:00:57.000 Always happy to be here.

00:00:58.000 Producing with me in video studio, for those listening terrestrially who do not know, is my producer, Not Gay Jared, who is not gay.

00:01:05.000 Follow him on Twitter at NotGayJarred.

00:01:07.000 I've fulfilled my legal obligations.

00:01:08.000 Now draw your own conclusions.

00:01:10.000 We good?

00:01:11.000 We are good.

00:01:12.000 We have a big show.

00:01:12.000 Good.

00:01:13.000 Big show tonight.

00:01:14.000 A little different from people who are just into politics.

00:01:17.000 So we have a few guests.

00:01:18.000 Professional fighter Matt Mitrione, who got into some hot water for comments about Fallon Fox, transgender male to female fighter, and has always had some strong political opinions.

00:01:27.000 But he's a funny guy, so he gets by with a lot of it.

00:01:30.000 He used to.

00:01:31.000 And then he got into some trouble.

00:01:32.000 But my guess is tonight he'll get into some trouble again after the program.

00:01:36.000 So Matt Mitrione is on.

00:01:37.000 Great guest.

00:01:38.000 Cerebral guy.

00:01:39.000 Smart guy for...

00:01:41.000 Dr.

00:01:43.000 Phyllis Boniface is back.

00:02:02.000 know about it that we wouldn't know.

00:02:04.000 Because, you know, John Hopkins, they don't perform the surgery anymore.

00:02:06.000 And I saw that posted.

00:02:07.000 We wanted to have her on.

00:02:08.000 We will also have Chad.

00:02:10.000 Chad with AIDS. Our resident token gay later on. 1.00

00:02:13.000 Great guy.

00:02:14.000 Educated us on bug chasers last time he was on.

00:02:16.000 And he's going to weigh in on the controversy this week that's been all over Captain America being gay.

00:02:20.000 Oh, yes.

00:02:21.000 That's a big thing this week. 0.98

00:02:23.000 People want Captain America to be gay. 0.59

00:02:25.000 So that's been a big controversy.

00:02:26.000 Because 2016.

00:02:27.000 Because 2016.

00:02:28.000 And we did...

00:02:31.000 Thank you.

00:02:35.000 things we might have a few surprise guests in there as well we're going to be talking about katie corrick getting caught in her gun lies the reason why this is so perfect is she's making what she claimed to be a balanced documentary on firearms and she was sitting there with matt lauer i bet you chad with aids sees matt lauer and goes that guy's a queer I just can't stand Matt Lauer. 0.75

00:02:58.000 And Al Roker was better fat. 0.87

00:02:59.000 He's one of those guys who looks better fat.

00:03:01.000 Sometimes people are like, no, you know what?

00:03:02.000 You can either look good or you can be thin.

00:03:05.000 I think that about Drew Carey.

00:03:06.000 Only because he's so unrecognizable.

00:03:08.000 So skinny and gray.

00:03:09.000 He's also trying to go hip with the midlife glasses.

00:03:11.000 Yeah, with the glasses and all that stuff.

00:03:12.000 Takes one to give.

00:03:13.000 So, we'll be talking about that.

00:03:15.000 It's so perfect because earlier in the week, I covered her first interview with Matt Lauer, where she was saying, this is really both sides of the gun control issue, this documentary.

00:03:23.000 And right away, I called BS and I dissected what she said.

00:03:26.000 And now, in the same week, we see that she actually deceptively edited... 0.99

00:03:32.000 An interview with one of the firearm owners.

00:03:35.000 Surprise.

00:03:37.000 Whenever someone says it's balanced on both sides of the issue, they're lying.

00:03:42.000 Almost invariably.

00:03:42.000 They're liberals.

00:03:44.000 We've never said, like, we're always, but we try to be honest and straightforward.

00:03:47.000 We've talked about that with Trump, with Ted Cruz.

00:03:49.000 I actually got emails this week, people who were mad that I made fun of Ted Cruz.

00:03:53.000 Oh, I've seen some of the tweets.

00:03:55.000 And this is what's so funny.

00:03:56.000 This is why I can't get on board with any movement or hashtag.

00:04:00.000 You have the Trump people who get furious with any criticism.

00:04:02.000 And then you have the Cruz people who get furious with any criticism.

00:04:05.000 Even though we lobbed the criticism out of money when he was on the program.

00:04:08.000 I got a ton of tweets today about the whole Never Trump thing.

00:04:12.000 People just so confused by it.

00:04:12.000 Yeah.

00:04:14.000 I just don't dig them.

00:04:15.000 I don't dig hashtags.

00:04:16.000 I don't dig hashtags.

00:04:16.000 I don't know.

00:04:17.000 And a lot of people in the Never Trump movement are...

00:04:21.000 There's stuff there that I don't like that I don't see.

00:04:23.000 And there's just as many Bernie and pro-Hillary people in the Never Trump hashtag as there are cruise people.

00:04:27.000 Exactly.

00:04:28.000 So why identify with them?

00:04:29.000 Well, let's talk about this.

00:04:30.000 A good example is last week when we were on the program.

00:04:32.000 I said, hey, Donald Trump's Supreme Court list actually looks pretty good, the list that he released.

00:04:37.000 I said, now, if he sticks to that list, this is important.

00:04:39.000 That will matter, but this is a good start.

00:04:42.000 The conservatives and the never-Trump go, oh, he didn't write this list, blah, blah, blah, and they just start immediately trashing him.

00:04:47.000 We said, this is a pretty good list.

00:04:49.000 Within the span of that program, Donald Trump said he was going to add to the list.

00:04:54.000 And then later in the week, he said, well, that list was only for the one spot for Scalia.

00:04:59.000 So now I go, well, that's BS. There's no sense in creating a list if you double it.

00:05:03.000 You can say you've added onto that list.

00:05:04.000 It's a whole new list.

00:05:05.000 You're not sticking with the list.

00:05:07.000 If you say, okay, this is the list of potential candidates, fine.

00:05:12.000 Oh, and we're going to double it.

00:05:14.000 We're not going to take any from the first.

00:05:15.000 It's not the same list.

00:05:16.000 Now, if we would have just said from the beginning, no, no, this is BS. We gave them credit where it's due.

00:05:21.000 And now we say, okay, then you have more credibility when there's a legitimate problem.

00:05:26.000 So we're not balanced.

00:05:27.000 We're not unbiased.

00:05:28.000 But we do actually try to be intellectually consistent.

00:05:31.000 I just hate when people, they marry themselves, these taglines, these slogans, these hashtags.

00:05:36.000 Right.

00:05:37.000 It boxes your brain and you can't think outside of that.

00:05:39.000 You can't think reasonably about a Trump SCOTUS list like we have.

00:05:43.000 And just like I don't like to identify as a Republican, I'd rather identify as a conservative because I can defend conservative values.

00:05:49.000 I'm not forced to justify or defend or apologize for every Republican out there.

00:05:52.000 Just like Christian. 0.99

00:05:53.000 I'd rather be a Christian than a Southern Baptist.

00:05:55.000 No, exactly.

00:05:55.000 Right.

00:05:56.000 I don't know.

00:05:57.000 My two cents.

00:05:57.000 No, I think you're right.

00:05:59.000 Tweet me at escrowder what you think.

00:06:00.000 But that's why, you know, listen, we were making fun of Trump before he announced his nomination based on his previous run because it's funny.

00:06:06.000 And the same thing, like Rand Paul, you know, was borderline trending as toilet brush head because of what we...

00:06:11.000 And I like Rand Paul.

00:06:12.000 We have to go after everybody.

00:06:14.000 And here's the thing.

00:06:15.000 If you complain about it or I hear from your PR reps or I hear from some people at your non-profit or your PAC, wink, wink, people who've sent me these emails...

00:06:23.000 We're coming after you more.

00:06:26.000 We have to.

00:06:27.000 It's like, sometimes we do things that are so a-hole-ish that I feel bad, but I feel like I have to do it out of a moral necessity. 0.99

00:06:35.000 The thing is, I'm a conservative, but I can't get on board with so many, because they're just such whiny little bitches. 1.00

00:06:41.000 Not conservatives, all of them, but all these movements and people online. 0.99

00:06:45.000 Like, listen, Ted Cruz needs some criticism because he lost.

00:06:48.000 He lost!

00:06:50.000 So how can you not criticize someone who's lost?

00:06:50.000 He lost!

00:06:53.000 Say, this is maybe why you lost.

00:06:55.000 And same thing with Donald Trump versus Hillary. 1.00

00:06:57.000 We're going to be focusing a lot of fire on Hillary now. 1.00

00:07:00.000 We focused on Bernie because he was a movement candidate.

00:07:02.000 We know what we're doing and we're planning it.

00:07:04.000 Back to the point with Katie Couric in the, this is really balanced.

00:07:08.000 We on the show talked about how Larry King inadvertently revealed that the media malpractice saying, you know, Fox News, but they can't select presidents.

00:07:17.000 And he went on talking about how CNN could.

00:07:21.000 Your job is not to select presidents.

00:07:22.000 So here's something that I do want to get into macro, because we're going to have a rebuttal.

00:07:26.000 We're going to get very specific on the Katie Couric issue.

00:07:28.000 We have a rebuttal for a recent feminist video.

00:07:30.000 A lot of guests, so we want to laser in here.

00:07:32.000 So let me go macro a little bit.

00:07:36.000 There are uneducated voters on both sides.

00:07:38.000 That happens.

00:07:39.000 But people who are not involved in the political process, this is just reality.

00:07:43.000 People who are not up to date on news or taking a proactive approach to current events, invariably they lean left. 0.94

00:07:51.000 In other words, the general default position for an ignorant voter is going to be that of a leftist, of a liberal. 0.95

00:07:57.000 Why? 0.97

00:07:58.000 Because of what you see with Katie Couric, and we'll prove this later on.

00:08:01.000 Oh, this is balanced.

00:08:02.000 Michael Moore said the same thing about bullying for Columbine.

00:08:05.000 And people bought it.

00:08:06.000 People bought it.

00:08:07.000 Al Gore and An Inconvenient Truth was the 10th anniversary.

00:08:09.000 Predictions that are verifiably false, people bought it.

00:08:13.000 Everything you watch, everything you listen to, films, TV, radio, unless you're tuning into Fox News or maybe some AM radio, everything that you consume as a form of media is almost invariably to the left.

00:08:26.000 And I know we have a lot of atheists, liberals, classical liberals who don't like being lumped in with this, but this is reality.

00:08:32.000 And that's why I realized I was at a table at a brewery this weekend.

00:08:37.000 And I was sitting there talking.

00:08:38.000 Liberals are so shocked when you disagree with them.

00:08:41.000 Conservatives all the time, right?

00:08:42.000 It's like swinging a weighted bat.

00:08:44.000 They're so used to it.

00:08:45.000 Right?

00:08:46.000 If you're a conservative in 2016, okay?

00:08:46.000 Because think about it.

00:08:49.000 Every time you walked into school, you were in enemy territory.

00:08:52.000 You were forced to defend your viewpoints.

00:08:53.000 Every time you turn on a sitcom or you tune on news that's not named Fox News, you're forced to defend your viewpoints.

00:09:00.000 Every time you're hearing some kind of a diatribe from the media, you're being bombarded with leftist viewpoints.

00:09:06.000 You're constantly being forced to defend it, and so they're used to it.

00:09:10.000 What you won't find is a conservative surprised when a liberal says, well, I just think people should be able to choose any gender or species now.

00:09:16.000 We'll get into that.

00:09:16.000 Puppy play.

00:09:17.000 We'll talk about that this week.

00:09:19.000 You're never going to see a conservative go, what?

00:09:21.000 But I was sitting there talking with a girl who I guess is planning a state rep. 0.69

00:09:26.000 She's working for some state representative. 0.98

00:09:28.000 Invariably left.

00:09:29.000 Little young hipster.

00:09:30.000 Nice girl.

00:09:31.000 And we were talking about the bathroom thing.

00:09:33.000 He said something like, you know, it's just these hateful people.

00:09:37.000 One of those buzzword talking points.

00:09:37.000 He said something along those lines.

00:09:40.000 And I said, quite simply, I said, well, I don't see how adults who maybe have children or wives not wanting penises in the ladies' room necessarily makes them hateful. 0.94

00:09:50.000 And she, the pearl clutching, like she was wounded, like I had said, Oakland booty, like Blake Lively. 0.96

00:09:57.000 Oh, how dare you?

00:09:59.000 She had never even thought of this.

00:10:01.000 It had never occurred to her.

00:10:02.000 She had never heard this before.

00:10:05.000 And you will see that a lot with leftists.

00:10:07.000 Now, it doesn't mean you should be ill-prepared, but it is, again, right?

00:10:10.000 These people that go to college, professors are telling them invariably to be liberal.

00:10:13.000 Every show they watch, oh, it's friendly.

00:10:16.000 It supports their viewpoint.

00:10:17.000 Every news entity they watch, oh, it's friendly.

00:10:20.000 It supports their viewpoint.

00:10:21.000 And so they've never been forced to defend it.

00:10:24.000 Just that sent her for a loop, and she walked off offended. 0.99

00:10:29.000 It doesn't necessarily make someone hateful that they think sex might be biological.

00:10:35.000 Now, for anyone watching this program, would you be surprised if a social justice leftist came in and said, gender's non-binary?

00:10:42.000 No, because you've heard it your whole life.

00:10:44.000 In college, you've watched these videos for a long time.

00:10:46.000 You know exactly what they're going to say, and you're prepared for it.

00:10:49.000 Leftists, again, the default position, if you're not involved, is you're going to lean to the left, And a lot of these people are just stunned that someone doesn't agree with us.

00:11:00.000 Why do you think Patricia Heaton was trending when she made some pro-life comments? 1.00

00:11:05.000 Very nice comments.

00:11:06.000 People make these pro-abortion comments all day long.

00:11:06.000 Not nice comments.

00:11:09.000 It's not shocking.

00:11:10.000 That's why it doesn't trend.

00:11:11.000 Just the signs at abortion rallies are worse.

00:11:14.000 You know, just the signs.

00:11:16.000 They mock it.

00:11:17.000 Whether you're pro-life or pro-abortion, the point is they are so surprised.

00:11:20.000 And, of course, they want to destroy all the institutions, whether it's marriage, whether it's the idea of gender, whether it's long-established film franchises, so they can rebuild the reality, the leftist social justice reality, where gender is merely a social construct.

00:11:35.000 There are no men and women, and everyone can steal from people because no one's earned their wealth.

00:11:39.000 They want to destroy reality so they can create theirs. 0.97

00:11:42.000 And guess what?

00:11:43.000 They're losing.

00:11:44.000 Keep the fight up.

00:11:45.000 We'll talk to you after the break.

00:12:14.000 Greetings, America.

00:12:16.000 Hopper here.

00:12:18.000 I want to speak, of course, of what has been the centerpiece of my campaign.

00:12:23.000 One that has resonated with Americans who are tired and sick of being downtrodden and told that their opinions are invalid or that our inaction has been effective.

00:12:36.000 I'm speaking, of course, of big squirrels.

00:12:40.000 For too long, big squirrels have been pulling the strings with this government, receiving kickbacks and handouts, while the rest of us ironically forage for our own survival.

00:12:54.000 I say ironically because squirrels are meant to be foragers.

00:12:59.000 They have not only run roughshod over your economy, over your houses, but your public parks, your trees, and even this week, I saw a squirrel run off with somebody's cheeses.

00:13:14.000 Enough! 1.00

00:13:15.000 Under a Hopper presidency, these scoundrels will be brought to justice, and they will be forced to kneel before us all.

00:13:24.000 The time has come.

00:13:26.000 We will not bend.

00:13:27.000 We will not yield.

00:13:29.000 And we will not negotiate with big squirrels any longer.

00:13:35.000 Tweet your support with hashtag FeelTheHopper.

00:13:40.000 FeelTheHopper.

00:14:09.000 And we're glad to be back.

00:14:13.000 Gosh, we have so much to get into this week.

00:14:15.000 Someone corrected me on Twitter.

00:14:16.000 They are called Otherkin, the puppy play.

00:14:18.000 Otherkin.

00:14:19.000 And was it Zach?

00:14:20.000 I'm glad they have a label.

00:14:21.000 Zach Ford?

00:14:22.000 This is on Twitter.

00:14:23.000 We'll talk about this later with Chad with AIDS, where puppy play is a big thing.

00:14:27.000 And this guy who writes it, I think, Think Progress.

00:14:29.000 I don't have the name right in front of me.

00:14:31.000 I'll bring it up after Matt Mitrione talked about how he was proud that puppy play is a part of the gay community. 0.81

00:14:36.000 This guy is not some fringe activist.

00:14:39.000 This is mainstream LGBTQAIP movement. 0.91

00:14:45.000 Puppy play, for those who don't know, has grown men who dress like dogs. 0.57

00:14:48.000 And I mean that in the loosest sense of the word.

00:14:50.000 It is strictly leather and bondage. 1.00

00:14:54.000 And then have sex, like dogs. 0.99

00:14:56.000 Now, I know, should this be illegal? 0.99

00:14:58.000 No.

00:14:58.000 Am I trying to tell you what to do in your bedroom?

00:15:00.000 No.

00:15:00.000 But it's weird.

00:15:02.000 Okay?

00:15:03.000 It's weird.

00:15:04.000 And we're at the point where that's hate speech.

00:15:05.000 It's weird.

00:15:06.000 It's considered hateful for me to say... 1.00

00:15:09.000 You're sick! 1.00

00:15:09.000 That's a sick thing to do! 1.00

00:15:10.000 You're gonna dress up like a dog and have intercourse. 1.00

00:15:15.000 Or whatever it is that you do. 0.99

00:15:17.000 Whatever it is that you call that.

00:15:18.000 That is really bizarre.

00:15:22.000 Tweet me at escrowder.

00:15:23.000 Maybe you think I'm wrong.

00:15:24.000 Maybe you think I'm close-minded.

00:15:24.000 I don't know.

00:15:25.000 But we'll have some people coming on and talking about it.

00:15:26.000 The point is, this is mainstream.

00:15:27.000 Where do you find experts on this kind of thing?

00:15:29.000 How do you Google that?

00:15:29.000 Chad with AIDS. He's gay.

00:15:30.000 They all know each other.

00:15:32.000 Things are coming together.

00:15:33.000 So Katie Couric. 0.98

00:15:34.000 Oh, we don't have the video clips ready, do we?

00:15:36.000 That's okay.

00:15:37.000 We'll bring them up later.

00:15:38.000 So Katie Couric, I'll talk about the first part, and then later we'll play the second part in the show with the actual original interview.

00:15:43.000 So she was on with Matt Lauer, and she was talking about how she presents both sides of the gun debate.

00:15:49.000 You know what I can actually probably do?

00:15:50.000 We can probably just cheat this.

00:15:52.000 I can play it on my computer and put it onto the microphone, which is an incredibly hack thing to do.

00:15:57.000 You can plug it in right there.

00:15:58.000 I don't want to plug it in right there.

00:15:59.000 Let me read the transcript for you.

00:16:02.000 So she's talking about how balance is.

00:16:03.000 This was earlier in the week, and this matters because...

00:16:05.000 Oh, no.

00:16:06.000 You know what?

00:16:06.000 No.

00:16:07.000 We'll talk about this.

00:16:08.000 I forgot about this.

00:16:09.000 The Facebook call.

00:16:11.000 I completely forgot about this.

00:16:12.000 The Facebook phone call.

00:16:14.000 Let me tell you folks about this listing right now.

00:16:15.000 This is real.

00:16:16.000 It's exclusive.

00:16:17.000 We have talked about Facebook, and I'm getting a little bit peeved off with all the conservatives who are just dealing in social media drama.

00:16:25.000 Zuckerberg and people at Facebook with their press releases will talk about any Tom, Dick, and Harry not named Steven Crowder.

00:16:31.000 And that is out of fear of legal ramifications at this point.

00:16:34.000 There is one person who has actually taken a step in filing a legal motion.

00:16:38.000 If people are out there and this kind of thing has happened with them, don't just take the social media and say that maybe you didn't get a post removed and you're upset and you're trying to get some clicks.

00:16:48.000 Do something about it.

00:16:49.000 And we have a billing issue that has not been remedied.

00:16:52.000 That's what it's about.

00:16:54.000 So we have filed a legal petition for information.

00:16:56.000 I've cleared all this with my lawyer.

00:16:58.000 We'll be playing a clip right here in a second.

00:17:00.000 Now, the reason for the legal petition of information is because the billing issue was not fixed.

00:17:05.000 And to give you some updates, not only were we pointed to in Facebook's, you know, this article that they specifically targeted conservative voices to silence, Facebook swore up and down they don't do it.

00:17:16.000 I defend the right to do it, but they swore up and down they didn't.

00:17:18.000 Turns out they do.

00:17:19.000 Because then the guidelines were released as to how to curate trending news.

00:17:23.000 So they do.

00:17:23.000 They can do it.

00:17:25.000 I just would rather they don't lie about it.

00:17:27.000 Particularly to paying partners.

00:17:27.000 Okay?

00:17:30.000 Then they released, because I guess the Senate did a probe, and they released and they specifically talked about, I was the only person they admitted to effectively manipulating.

00:17:38.000 They said there was something in 2015 about a Muslim bakery, and it was put in for trending, but we decided the feed wasn't quite there yet, and due to our internal investigation, we didn't see any reason for bias.

00:17:50.000 Right, we'll take your word for it.

00:17:51.000 No, we're not.

00:17:52.000 We're not taking your word for it.

00:17:53.000 There's too much information right now.

00:17:54.000 The billing issue hasn't been fixed.

00:17:56.000 We're not suing Facebook, but we need information.

00:17:58.000 There's too much out there now, and they've said they don't censor, or censor, they don't edit, they don't do that, and then now they kind of do, but they say the internal investigation reveals are no bias, and then since then they've said it could have been some rogue employees.

00:18:08.000 That's not good enough.

00:18:08.000 Well, guess what?

00:18:09.000 So I want to play for you a reason.

00:18:11.000 So we've had the billing issue.

00:18:13.000 This is not related to the billing issue, but behind the scenes we've worked with Facebook for a long time, and we were getting posts removed.

00:18:21.000 And we weren't able to find out why.

00:18:23.000 Some of them would get removed.

00:18:24.000 We'd file complaints.

00:18:25.000 They'd go back up.

00:18:25.000 Now, like I've talked about, we don't have the tens of millions of the big sites like Breitbart or The Blaze to run an advertising.

00:18:32.000 We keep some very low-grade advertising going because we want to get all this content to you for free.

00:18:38.000 And Facebook started throttling posts.

00:18:40.000 You no longer reach your own fans.

00:18:42.000 So we've kept some very low-rent advertising as a small company.

00:18:46.000 What are you doing?

00:18:47.000 Small company that we are.

00:18:49.000 Posts were being removed.

00:18:50.000 We were trying to get to the bottom of it.

00:18:51.000 This is one of the highest supervisors, self-proclaimed, at Facebook, answering my questions.

00:18:56.000 We finally got them on the phone saying, we just want to find out what's going on here.

00:19:00.000 So this is exactly why a legal petition for information is required.

00:19:06.000 Tell me if you can maybe understand why.

00:19:08.000 Jared, let's play that clip.

00:19:10.000 So I've read through the correspondence.

00:19:12.000 I've worked with KDN. At this point, Stephen, do you have a platform to speak with me on this?

00:19:18.000 Just go ahead and let me know.

00:19:19.000 I mean, what's going on?

00:19:20.000 What can I do to try and help?

00:19:24.000 Sure.

00:19:24.000 Well, a couple things.

00:19:25.000 You know, Emily was someone who I was told was going to be my point person, so the only reason I reached it back out to me is because she said we're looking into it and wasn't able to provide any answers.

00:19:34.000 So the first answer I need is, I mean, there are a few conversations that kind of took place, was which post was it and which policy was it violating?

00:19:44.000 Because no one's given me that answer, so that's my first question.

00:19:51.000 I don't know.

00:19:52.000 There you go.

00:19:54.000 So if you picture this in any other business relationship, where someone says, well, you violated a policy, you violated a contract, you say, well, listen, we want to work with you.

00:20:01.000 We want to know, what did we do, and which policy did it violate?

00:20:03.000 Give me your top guy to talk to you about it.

00:20:06.000 Yes.

00:20:06.000 The highest ranking dude.

00:20:08.000 Not gay. 1.00

00:20:09.000 We were trying to work with them, saying, like, listen, we're not going to curtail our speech, but maybe some things we won't put on Facebook.

00:20:09.000 Jared knows.

00:20:14.000 We'll put them on the site.

00:20:15.000 We'll put them on Twitter.

00:20:16.000 But we don't want to violate Facebook's guidelines.

00:20:20.000 So what is it?

00:20:21.000 Because it seems remarkably inconsistent.

00:20:23.000 We don't know.

00:20:24.000 We've never gotten any of those answers.

00:20:27.000 Now, that changes when Facebook, again, they have the right to do it.

00:20:30.000 They've sworn up and down that they don't censor.

00:20:32.000 They have the right to.

00:20:33.000 But, when there are billing issues and you're accepting payments, I don't think that's good enough.

00:20:40.000 You tweet me at S. Crowder.

00:20:40.000 You tell me what you think.

00:20:41.000 And one thing, I'm a little disappointed.

00:20:43.000 We have Eric Erickson out there that was talking about people.

00:20:44.000 I don't think he was talking about me.

00:20:46.000 But some of these people who went to the Facebook meeting said, you know, conservatives shouldn't be shaking down Facebook.

00:20:50.000 We're not shaking anyone down.

00:20:52.000 We're trying to get information.

00:20:52.000 We're not trying to get any money.

00:20:54.000 I am a little bit disappointed with people who went to the Facebook meeting and came out all of a sudden.

00:20:58.000 Everything was fine.

00:20:59.000 Well, we know.

00:21:00.000 And we're going to be releasing this stuff like a drip.

00:21:03.000 Believe me, you haven't seen or heard anything yet.

00:21:08.000 We want the information.

00:21:09.000 That's where we are.

00:21:11.000 And hopefully it'll develop.

00:21:12.000 We have to get to the Katie Couric thing.

00:21:13.000 Well, the good thing is now we'll have all the videos to talk about it.

00:21:15.000 And a big feminist rebuttal that we'll have in real time. 1.00

00:21:18.000 So you can rebut along with me. 1.00

00:21:19.000 Just follow the ugly pansexual lesbian. 1.00

00:21:22.000 Little bouncing lesbian. 1.00

00:21:24.000 They don't bounce very high. 0.99

00:21:25.000 That's how you rebut with me.

00:21:26.000 But you can kind of follow along with them.

00:21:29.000 Yes, exactly.

00:21:30.000 And Matt Mitrione coming up next, right?

00:21:31.000 Is this what he's coming up?

00:21:32.000 Yeah, he is.

00:21:33.000 He's coming up next.

00:21:33.000 Professional fighter.

00:21:35.000 Professional talker.

00:21:36.000 Guy gets into some hot water.

00:21:38.000 Anything could happen.

00:21:40.000 You want to stay tuned.

00:21:41.000 Tune, Lotto with Crowder.

00:21:41.000 And now, for an exclusive look at Captain America, Gay Director's Cut.

00:22:05.000 Don't you know when to give up?

00:22:07.000 I could do this all day. 1.00

00:22:09.000 What, you mean all the gay sex? 1.00

00:22:10.000 Yeah, that's why I made lots of gay sex. 1.00

00:22:12.000 Stay tuned to Louder with Crowder for more exclusive looks All right, serious times serious times Serious time. 0.99

00:22:38.000 We want to respect our next guest.

00:22:40.000 I've actually been a fan of him.

00:22:41.000 Well, I'm supposed to say admirer.

00:22:42.000 That's more professional.

00:22:43.000 Admire of his for a long time.

00:22:45.000 Top-ranked heavyweight fighter in the world.

00:22:47.000 Formerly fought in the UFC. There was some drama.

00:22:49.000 Now he fights at Bellator.

00:22:51.000 Coming up a fight in June.

00:22:53.000 You can follow him on Twitter at Matt Mitrione.

00:22:56.000 Matt, what is that date that you're letting the fisticuffs fly?

00:22:59.000 That is June 24th, my man.

00:23:01.000 Louis on Bellator.

00:23:01.000 And St.

00:23:02.000 Bellator Dynamite 2.

00:23:04.000 Unfortunately, you have to go to St.

00:23:05.000 Louis.

00:23:06.000 They've got good barbecue.

00:23:06.000 You know what?

00:23:08.000 Yeah, I guess they have good barbecue and not much else.

00:23:11.000 Louis is, I mean, I was born in Detroit, so that's a city that's been amidst its death throes for a while.

00:23:11.000 St.

00:23:16.000 You think that statement is one of the statements against St.

00:23:18.000 Louis?

00:23:18.000 Yes, it is.

00:23:19.000 Well, Detroit is bad.

00:23:20.000 I remember Not Gay Jared, he's from Cleveland, and when I first took him on the ride along from Detroit, he said, I'm offended.

00:23:26.000 He said, I'm offended that you would even compare the two.

00:23:26.000 Scarring.

00:23:28.000 Nothing comes close.

00:23:30.000 So St.

00:23:30.000 Louis, so you're fighting in St.

00:23:32.000 Louis.

00:23:33.000 Now you're out there on Bellator, which is doing really pretty well.

00:23:36.000 Everything going well with training camp?

00:23:38.000 Yeah, everything.

00:23:39.000 You know, the funny part is that I'm older now.

00:23:41.000 I'm 37 years old.

00:23:42.000 So as far as training camp goes, I can't really get myself too far out of shape because it'll take too long to get back into shape.

00:23:47.000 Right.

00:23:48.000 So I fight in about, I think, five weeks, maybe five and a half weeks, and I feel fantastic.

00:23:52.000 I'm ready to scrap yesterday.

00:23:54.000 So I just kind of have to maintain that and ride the wave all the way through.

00:23:57.000 Well, you know, it's fun.

00:23:58.000 So you also, you were in the NFL before the UFC. So it was a career transition and not just a guy that you actually played.

00:24:03.000 You were in the NFL. You know, a lot of these people, they were either alternates or they didn't make the cut.

00:24:07.000 I was an actor for the Giants and the Vikings.

00:24:09.000 Yes, exactly.

00:24:10.000 So he, well, yeah, you don't really follow football.

00:24:12.000 You follow basketball.

00:24:13.000 I follow football.

00:24:14.000 You're into the sport where guys get slapped on the wrist and they flail.

00:24:16.000 It happens from time to time.

00:24:17.000 It's a problem.

00:24:18.000 So I played football, transitioned to the UFC. So, you know, and your nickname is Meathead, which is funny because...

00:24:23.000 Even though I know you're a smartass, everyone knows that, I've always thought of you as more cerebral than quite a few fighters.

00:24:27.000 I became a fan of yours when I watched The Ultimate Fighter season, and you were talking about some kind of a fight, and when everyone else was trying to act hyper-analytical, you said, he just went Ralphie on the guy.

00:24:38.000 Referencing a Christmas story.

00:24:40.000 And sometimes that cuts through the fog, and I thought, okay, here's a guy who knows what he's talking about, not afraid to throw in a reference.

00:24:47.000 And you've also spoken out, you've talked about culture, you've gotten into some hot water before, I don't know what we can or cannot bring up.

00:24:54.000 Have you just always been outspoken and more opinionated than fighters, or just willing to go against the stream?

00:25:00.000 I think I've always been rather outspoken, but I come from good thinking stock.

00:25:05.000 My father's a psychiatrist, my mother has two master's degrees, and I'm proud to be an intellectual of some form or fashion.

00:25:13.000 So if somebody asks my opinion on something, I give it, and I give it as honestly as I can.

00:25:17.000 And I think as a byproduct of that, sometimes I step on some toes, and my filter doesn't work too terribly well, so I'm kind of a walking soundbite.

00:25:26.000 You were putting me on the couch before we got on air when he was like, well, why did you feel guilty about this?

00:25:26.000 That's why.

00:25:30.000 He was asking me these questions.

00:25:31.000 I was like, this is odd for a fighter to be asking me these questions.

00:25:34.000 What does your conscience tell you?

00:25:35.000 For show prep?

00:25:36.000 Okay, I see what's going on.

00:25:37.000 Tell me about your mother.

00:25:38.000 No, let's not get into the Freud situation.

00:25:38.000 Yes, tell me about your mother.

00:25:40.000 So, okay.

00:25:42.000 So one example, right, and you can tell me what you want to discuss.

00:25:45.000 You got into some hot water talking about Fallon Fox.

00:25:47.000 And I talk about this because I've written about Fallon Fox quite a bit.

00:25:50.000 For those who don't know, this is a hot-button issue right now.

00:25:53.000 Fallon Fox lived as a man his entire life, and then for a couple years decided he was going to become a woman, now beats up women for a living.

00:26:00.000 My argument on this issue was, listen, you look at Cyborg, who's a female fighter who was stripped of her belt at one point because they found out she had tested positive for steroids. 1.00

00:26:08.000 Fallon Fox has been on steroids his whole life. 0.98

00:26:10.000 They're called balls. 0.91

00:26:11.000 So my situation is, I wrote about it, and amazingly, most people agreed. 0.97

00:26:16.000 Even most of the biggest pro-LGBTQ, AAIP, actual proposed acronym now, said, yeah, fighting is a little bit too much.

00:26:23.000 You got in some hot water.

00:26:26.000 LGBTQ, and the Q can be queer questioning...

00:26:26.000 Now...

00:26:32.000 A is for allies, asexual, intersex, and some people want to add pansexual.

00:26:37.000 And what's funny is if I bring this up, people will get mad at me and say, no, no, no, you're exaggerating.

00:26:40.000 But then if I bring up LGBTQ to the people who actually use it, they get mad that I'm not including it.

00:26:45.000 There's no way to win.

00:26:46.000 Wow, that's interesting.

00:26:48.000 Pansexual just means anything.

00:26:49.000 That just means you're, you know, it's not just whether you're gay or straight.

00:26:54.000 It's gender. 1.00

00:26:54.000 You could also be a male or female on any given day. 1.00

00:26:56.000 You could be a lesbian on one day, or you could be a straight female, or you could be a gay dude, or you could be a straight dude on any given day. 0.81

00:27:01.000 And if anyone questions you, they're racist. 0.99

00:27:04.000 Look at him.

00:27:05.000 He doesn't look caught up with this at all.

00:27:07.000 I thought he was an intellectual.

00:27:08.000 Apparently, he's not a freak thinker.

00:27:10.000 Yeah, I just got put in my place quickly.

00:27:12.000 That's so much the process.

00:27:14.000 My wheels are turning right now.

00:27:16.000 Well, that's what Miley Cyrus claims. 0.98

00:27:18.000 Pansexual.

00:27:18.000 So the Fallon Fox thing happened, and you didn't apologize for your sentiment.

00:27:21.000 You apologized for the verbiage, if I'm not mistaken.

00:27:24.000 That is accurate.

00:27:25.000 Now, you've been outspoken about some things that you didn't like about the UFC. Now that you've left and moved on, do you think you'll be more outspoken?

00:27:33.000 Was some of that coming from the top more PC? Because I've had to deal with that in corporate environments before.

00:27:39.000 No, I don't think...

00:27:41.000 I don't be...

00:27:43.000 I don't...

00:27:44.000 I don't handle stifling well.

00:27:46.000 So everything that I said was whatever I said.

00:27:49.000 And I never really got messages from the UFC like, hey, don't really say this or don't really say that.

00:27:53.000 It was more like, hey, you just said this and that's how we're going to have to deal with it kind of a thing.

00:27:57.000 But I would say that for the most part, I couldn't really be more vocal than I am.

00:28:03.000 Like I said, Bellator says, hey, look, man, be yourself, be who you want to be.

00:28:08.000 But if there's repercussion, you're going to have to deal with it.

00:28:09.000 And that's how it is.

00:28:11.000 So I'm very comfortable with that.

00:28:12.000 You have the right to say whatever you want.

00:28:14.000 You don't have the right to be paid to say whatever you want.

00:28:16.000 People can fire you.

00:28:17.000 That's reality.

00:28:18.000 And I understand that.

00:28:19.000 But we were talking about this, you know, what you said at that time, people were out with their pitchforks.

00:28:23.000 There's a lot of backlash now.

00:28:25.000 And especially with the Fallon Fox thing, you've heard, you know, Rogan talking about it, and a lot of people are going, okay, at what point do we say, I mean, this is a guy beating up women.

00:28:33.000 And you know, when we talked about, you know, Fallon Fox is a good example.

00:28:35.000 You're a fighter.

00:28:37.000 I'm relatively skilled for a hobbyist.

00:28:39.000 I've trained for years.

00:28:40.000 This is not a skilled athlete.

00:28:42.000 It looks very much like a man beating up a woman.

00:28:44.000 And that was a visceral reaction for everybody.

00:28:47.000 But you got flack because you reacted publicly.

00:28:49.000 Did you feel it was just one of those things where it was just people looking to be offended?

00:28:53.000 Well, I feel like it was...

00:28:55.000 You know, that's really tricky because I understand that in this day and age, you just can't use certain words.

00:29:01.000 There are certain things you can't say because it's going to step on toes.

00:29:04.000 But I feel like my content and my message was very legitimate and very accurate.

00:29:09.000 And I disapproved of it, and I disapproved of the secrecy in which it was done, and I disapproved of...

00:29:16.000 That's right, because it wasn't disclosed to some opponents.

00:29:18.000 Yes.

00:29:18.000 It wasn't this close at all.

00:29:19.000 So the heinous ass whoopings and beatings that these people got, that these women got, at the hands of this person, that they had no clue what was going on. 0.55

00:29:27.000 They had no clue of the truth. 0.95

00:29:28.000 And it was said that it wasn't medically relevant that she used to be a dude.

00:29:32.000 It blew my mind.

00:29:34.000 And that's why I spoke out on it.

00:29:37.000 And then, granted, if I say what I say and I get in trouble for it, cool, then I'll get in trouble for that.

00:29:41.000 But I won't apologize for the content because I really believe my content was accurate and as far as I go.

00:29:46.000 But what's interesting is because you were talking about The support.

00:29:50.000 I'm Italian, so I talk with my hands, so please don't think I'm too ghetto.

00:29:54.000 It's okay.

00:29:54.000 Not Gay Jared's Italian, but he says he's...

00:29:57.000 Like Olive Garden Italian?

00:29:58.000 Yeah, he's not real.

00:29:59.000 Olive Garden Italian.

00:30:01.000 But I got...

00:30:04.000 An incredible amount of support.

00:30:05.000 And actually at the time, I was in a fight with an ex-girlfriend of mine, so I took down my Twitter because I was just frustrated with the world.

00:30:11.000 But had I not taken down my Twitter, I'm sure I'd have probably 200,000 followers because I got so much incredible response out of that.

00:30:17.000 And probably like 97% was really positive.

00:30:20.000 A little bit was negative.

00:30:22.000 Call me as much negativity as possible.

00:30:25.000 But the support that I got, probably out of that 97%, probably 5% of that was like... 1.00

00:30:33.000 The most hatred-filled, negative, horrible human beings that are like, you know, yeah, hate them and these kind of people and these kind of people and they all deserve to die in a heart. 0.99

00:30:42.000 Right, and you're like, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 1.00

00:30:44.000 But that's a small percentage.

00:30:45.000 Yeah, like, how do you have that much hate to write me about something and include me in this bit?

00:30:51.000 That's like, remember Michael Douglas in Falling Down?

00:30:54.000 Did you ever see Falling Down?

00:30:55.000 Yes.

00:30:55.000 Remember then the guy who owns the gun shop and he finds out he's like this Nazi and he's like, you're just like me, I'm nothing like you.

00:31:01.000 Like, nothing like you.

00:31:02.000 I felt like that.

00:31:04.000 Exactly like that.

00:31:05.000 Yeah, that's a great film, by the way.

00:31:07.000 Not Gay Jared hasn't seen it.

00:31:08.000 That's where he just goes on a full rampage because a Coke cost 85 cents.

00:31:12.000 All I wanted was a Coke.

00:31:13.000 That's all I wanted.

00:31:14.000 Make my breakfast like the picture.

00:31:18.000 It's a great film.

00:31:19.000 You just have to watch it.

00:31:20.000 It's the only good film Joel Schumacher made. 0.99

00:31:22.000 Everything else is rubber nipples and gayness. 0.99

00:31:23.000 Oh, Lord. 1.00

00:31:25.000 That's bad.

00:31:25.000 But, you know, listen.

00:31:26.000 You're a fighter.

00:31:28.000 You punch people for a living.

00:31:29.000 And you're a good guy.

00:31:30.000 I don't understand why political correctness permeates...

00:31:33.000 Every aspect of entertainment, including sports.

00:31:36.000 I mean, you have it right now in the NFL with the Redskins.

00:31:37.000 Hey, that's a good question.

00:31:38.000 When you were in the NFL, was the Redskins thing, was that a big issue?

00:31:41.000 Were people like, oh, we shouldn't be talking about this?

00:31:43.000 Or does it just seem as recent as it seems to everybody else?

00:31:47.000 Including, by the way, Native Americans.

00:31:49.000 Nine out of ten when they were polled said, we don't care.

00:31:52.000 Yeah, you know, when I played in the NFL, my rookie year was 2002.

00:31:57.000 And I think my final year was 2005.

00:31:59.000 I got brought back in 2008.

00:32:01.000 Um...

00:32:02.000 Oh, wait, yeah.

00:32:04.000 And anyways, there was no kind of conversation about that at all.

00:32:06.000 Nobody really talked about it.

00:32:07.000 You'd hear it every once in a while on the outskirts about some personality saying something, but it was never really a conversational piece.

00:32:14.000 But now it's definitely grown legs.

00:32:16.000 And as far as being in the sporting world, MMA is kind of interesting because it's a fringe sport, and it still kind of teeters on the line of A, entertainment, and B, sport.

00:32:29.000 So it really kind of encompasses legitimate activity versus entertainment like the WWE.

00:32:36.000 Who could do so many activities?

00:32:39.000 Like knitting, crocheting.

00:32:41.000 Exactly.

00:32:44.000 It's funny that you mention that.

00:32:45.000 When I was getting married, I was actually in a bunk with a guy who played at Notre Dame.

00:32:47.000 He was exactly your size.

00:32:48.000 And every time he moved and the bed just bowed, I had a nightmare of that scene from Step Brothers with it falling down on me.

00:32:54.000 Yeah, it is where entertainment and sports meet.

00:32:58.000 But just even across the whole sporting world, I am amazed that athletes who are paid to be good athletes are now expected to be beholden to a social justice lexicon or politically correct handbook that changes day to day.

00:33:11.000 I mean, we work in news and politics, and we can't really stay on top of it.

00:33:16.000 It's damn near impossible to be an athlete, focus on your life, be as self-centered and be the center of your own universe, and then have a much wider, encompassing view, perspective on so many other things.

00:33:29.000 Because we have to be narcissistic to a certain point to handle what we have to handle and take care of ourselves and handle our team to make sure our team is healthy enough to help us get ready and blah, blah, blah.

00:33:37.000 Right.

00:33:37.000 Right?

00:33:38.000 So, out of all that, it is quite a stretch to do that because most of the time, our free time isn't filled, chilling, surfing the internet.

00:33:46.000 It's sleeping or recovering or getting your necessary calorie in or trying to set up your training regimen they get to drive two hours to get to or whatever it is.

00:33:54.000 Right.

00:33:55.000 But also, I see your perspective that, dude, we're fighters.

00:33:59.000 Do you really expect a fighter to be some type of way as far as on top of the game when it comes down to political correctness or whatever else?

00:34:06.000 Are you really going to get that butthurt or that upset about some fighter that has an opinion that's not necessarily concurrent with modern day thoughts?

00:34:13.000 But, I will say this in defense of that, that most of us, I'm not sure about Bellator, but I know in the UFC, have some form of college, and I believe a good percentage of us have college degrees.

00:34:24.000 So, since we have our college degrees, I think that we're much more...

00:34:27.000 Brazilian's not included, but yes.

00:34:28.000 For sure, definitely not.

00:34:29.000 It's absolutely true.

00:34:30.000 People don't like to hear that, but it's true. 1.00

00:34:31.000 It's not the same culture there in Brazil.

00:34:33.000 I think they call it elementary school college in Brazil.

00:34:36.000 And they all show up two hours late.

00:34:38.000 For sure.

00:34:39.000 But they have great-looking pajamas on.

00:34:40.000 Great-looking pajamas.

00:34:42.000 So I think a lot of us are much more hip than what I think the public would expect us to be. 0.62

00:34:49.000 But I think in that same aspect, man, I'm not giving myself a Neanderthal card, but I do punch people in the face for a living.

00:34:55.000 I'm not rewriting the Gettysburg Address or the preamble, you know?

00:34:59.000 Yes.

00:35:00.000 Well, thank God.

00:35:01.000 I think you're a bright guy, but I wouldn't want the foundation of our country in your hands, with all due respect.

00:35:07.000 I wouldn't want it in my hands.

00:35:08.000 I can fight for our country's freedom.

00:35:10.000 I can do that for sure.

00:35:11.000 You can do that.

00:35:12.000 And you do it in the cage, I guess, in a way.

00:35:16.000 But, yeah, it's one of those things...

00:35:18.000 I did lose to a French guy, though. 1.00

00:35:19.000 That's some bullshit. 0.99

00:35:20.000 I'm really upset about that. 1.00

00:35:21.000 Oh, Chick Congo? 1.00

00:35:22.000 Yeah, but he's at Bellator now, I think.

00:35:24.000 So maybe I can get that one back.

00:35:25.000 Maybe you can get that one back.

00:35:26.000 I forgot that...

00:35:27.000 Oh, yes, I did for...

00:35:28.000 You know, I'm not going to lie.

00:35:29.000 I was disappointed watching that.

00:35:30.000 So was I, dude.

00:35:31.000 I was disappointed.

00:35:32.000 I was like, man, Matt, your ground game wasn't quite there because I'm a ground guy.

00:35:36.000 And I know you're a professional fighter.

00:35:38.000 I'm going to tell you this much, dude.

00:35:39.000 I've been submitted twice.

00:35:42.000 One time I gave a thumbs up and went to sleep and I should have defended it and I didn't.

00:35:46.000 And another time I got caught by Ben, but Ben also caught Josh Barnett.

00:35:51.000 A great friend of mine.

00:35:52.000 In that same choke.

00:35:53.000 So that gives me a little bit of validity on that one that I was pretty excited.

00:35:56.000 Oh yeah, no absolutely.

00:35:57.000 But I was just disappointed because I didn't like Czech. 0.98

00:35:58.000 But I did fight Czech Congo with a sports hernia and I didn't have it diagnosed and that hurt really bad.

00:36:04.000 Yeah, I can imagine that hurts really bad.

00:36:05.000 That's my primary excuse.

00:36:07.000 Yeah, we're not supposed to have them, but people always do have them at the ready, unless you're Georges St-Pierre.

00:36:12.000 And then you're like, well, that's the champion look inside of himself.

00:36:16.000 I'm going to fix about it.

00:36:18.000 Have you ever met him?

00:36:20.000 He's cool as a fan, dude.

00:36:21.000 I've heard he's just a great guy all around.

00:36:23.000 All around.

00:36:24.000 And we had Chael on the show, and he said, I have never seen an athlete like that in my life, and I know many Olympic medalists.

00:36:33.000 And I thought that was a really pretty serious statement.

00:36:35.000 And because everyone else I know, the Brazilians I know who've worked or coached him, said he wasn't naturally very good.

00:36:40.000 Like, he doesn't just pick up something right away.

00:36:42.000 He just will drill, drill, drill, drill, drill.

00:36:43.000 But you get different stories from different people.

00:36:45.000 But yeah, I like the guy.

00:36:46.000 I think he's a class act.

00:36:46.000 And funny, he's from Quebec.

00:36:48.000 And he's all honorable and that he's going to pay his taxes there.

00:36:51.000 But him and Firas, like, this is the thing with socialists from Canada.

00:36:54.000 They have openly said that socialized health care is horrible and they've come to the States to get the best care.

00:37:00.000 But they don't really make the connection that it's still a problem with socialism.

00:37:05.000 And George St.

00:37:05.000 Pierre could never be afforded the opportunities he's had here in the United States under a socialist system.

00:37:10.000 And they just don't quite make that connection.

00:37:12.000 Dude, I'm horrified as to where things are going to go.

00:37:18.000 I'm not a big Trump guy.

00:37:21.000 I'm definitely not a Bernie guy.

00:37:23.000 And I don't understand how America can even have the conversation of a candidate running who's under federal investigation for all kinds of crimes.

00:37:31.000 I just don't understand that.

00:37:33.000 And I'm horrified as to where our future as a country is going if people actually think these are viable commodities.

00:37:40.000 I'm just Yeah, I know.

00:37:41.000 Well, listen, we have to go to a break.

00:37:42.000 We'll bring you back when we talk more about that.

00:37:43.000 Look at how sad his baby blues get when he's talking about that.

00:37:46.000 He looks like Bambi's mom. 0.91

00:37:47.000 He does.

00:37:48.000 We'll come back.

00:37:49.000 Matt Mitrione, at Matt Mitrione.

00:37:50.000 We'll talk a little bit of politics with the guy who has the big fist.

00:37:55.000 I mean, big hands.

00:37:56.000 Let's just, let's move on.

00:37:57.000 Ladder with Crowder. 0.99

00:37:57.000 No more gay stuff. 0.99

00:37:58.000 For breaking news on Router with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson. 0.93

00:37:58.000 Stay tuned. 0.93

00:38:25.000 We now update you on an exclusive story regarding presidential candidate Hopper's tumultuous campaign.

00:38:33.000 It now seems Hopper finds himself at the center of sexual misconduct charges for exposing himself in a public park.

00:38:44.000 Sheldon Acornsson of Squirrel Citicals was interviewed earlier today for a comment.

00:38:50.000 Well, you know, listen, we don't know exactly what has happened here, but I will say that I think the American public is very disappointed in this kind of behavior from a politician.

00:39:01.000 Is Hopper the kind of man who you can trust at the till of the ship when he's doing these kinds of things in parks?

00:39:05.000 And what's he doing in parks?

00:39:06.000 We don't know!

00:39:07.000 I'm not accusing anything yet, but I think you should release the records.

00:39:10.000 Swift in response was Hopper holding his own press conference.

00:39:14.000 Greetings America.

00:39:15.000 These attacks are entirely false, libelous, slanderous, and entirely expected from Big Squirrel, who are engaging in politics as usual, which is what Americans are so disappointed with.

00:39:31.000 We will fight, and we will not negotiate, and I will be vindicated from these latest attacks from Big Squirrel.

00:39:41.000 We'll keep you abreast as the story unfolds.

00:39:45.000 For Louder with Crowder, I'm Harry Matheson.

00:39:50.000 You're a strange animal, that's what I know.

00:39:57.000 But you're a strange animal, I've got to follow. 0.55

00:40:02.000 Oh, I'm in the spirit of sound.

00:40:06.000 Glad to be back with our guest, fighting in June in Bellator.

00:40:09.000 You can watch him.

00:40:10.000 Big dude.

00:40:11.000 Intimidating dude.

00:40:11.000 But a nice guy.

00:40:13.000 Hopefully we haven't angered him.

00:40:13.000 I hope.

00:40:14.000 At Matt Mitrione.

00:40:16.000 And unlike not Kate Jarrett, he's not Olive Garden Italian.

00:40:19.000 Before the break, you were talking about this.

00:40:21.000 You know, I was a little...

00:40:22.000 I was going, where is he going with this?

00:40:23.000 Because he said, I'm not a Trump guy.

00:40:24.000 Neither am I. And then he said, I'm not a Bernie guy.

00:40:27.000 He didn't mention Hillary Clinton.

00:40:27.000 And I thought, well, hold on a second.

00:40:28.000 But then he brought it to the crescendo.

00:40:31.000 Thank you, Matt.

00:40:57.000 Music to the ears of logical.

00:40:57.000 No.

00:40:59.000 Yes, music that, well, we get so much flack on the Bernie stuff.

00:41:02.000 I mean, if you cut the military by 100% and you tax all earnings over a million at 100%, you still would not cover his plans.

00:41:08.000 Did you hear that, you know, Burlington College, where his wife was the, uh...

00:41:11.000 Bankrupted it.

00:41:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:13.000 So when he says free college, I want you to think of Burlington College.

00:41:17.000 I mean...

00:41:18.000 It's time and time again.

00:41:20.000 It's absolutely undeniable.

00:41:22.000 Will you vote then?

00:41:24.000 Will you pull the lever begrudgingly or you're not sure yet?

00:41:28.000 You know, honestly, man, I don't know.

00:41:31.000 I can't make up my mind yet.

00:41:34.000 And it's hard to say that, dude, because I don't want to be a guy who doesn't vote because I have an opinion on stuff, so I should vote, right?

00:41:39.000 But I feel that I really wish that Rand Paul was...

00:41:43.000 I wish he was more charismatic. 0.97

00:41:44.000 I wish that he could enlighten the masses He's so bitchy. 1.00

00:41:48.000 That's his problem. 0.91

00:41:49.000 He just comes across like, oh, well, my other candidates, but not me.

00:41:54.000 You know what?

00:41:55.000 Bring him into a gym for a year, and everybody in the world will love that dude because they'll learn a personality that is approachable.

00:42:02.000 Yes.

00:42:03.000 You know, I say that and people think I'm just talking out of my rear. 1.00

00:42:08.000 Men need to get their ass kicked. 1.00

00:42:11.000 What it is, is you can't be delusional. 1.00

00:42:14.000 You cannot have an unhealthy ego if you train in a combat sport.

00:42:18.000 You don't have to be in the cage and fight.

00:42:19.000 You don't have to be wrestling collegiately.

00:42:21.000 But whether it's judo, whether it's boxing, it can't be Krav Maga or any of that silliness.

00:42:26.000 It has to be an actual combat sport.

00:42:28.000 Yeah, where you're actually competing against somebody else.

00:42:31.000 Because I've talked to people who are friends who legitimately think they can beat UFC fighters.

00:42:31.000 You know why?

00:42:37.000 I had a friend with him and was like, oh man, I could just beat Michael Bisping.

00:42:39.000 I'm like, no, you can't.

00:42:41.000 And because they've never done it, they can lie to themselves.

00:42:44.000 And yeah, I think it's really important for men to do that because they have to be more honest with themselves and that is reflected.

00:42:49.000 People see that.

00:42:50.000 So I have very strong sentiments on this for a reason being is that I feel very proud that I carry the banner for my sport very well, right?

00:43:03.000 And we went to, so we call, like, most Jiu-Jitsu guys, like yourself here, we call you guys Jiu-Jitsu nerds, right?

00:43:09.000 Because, like, pajamas, gi Jiu-Jitsu is the end-all, be-all, and they love it.

00:43:14.000 And most Jiu-Jitsu guys won't do MMA because they feel it's probably beneath them because it's not necessarily the sport or the art or whatever else, right?

00:43:22.000 No, I train in both, but some of them, yeah.

00:43:25.000 That's more of the Brazilian mindset, but yes.

00:43:27.000 I agree.

00:43:29.000 And the guys that are kind of brainwashed into traditional Jiu-Jitsu, which is the Brazilian aspect, right?

00:43:36.000 Especially Gi Jiu-Jitsu.

00:43:37.000 So anyways, the first day I go to this one place, we call it the Nerd Factory.

00:43:41.000 So first time we go to this one place...

00:43:43.000 Hey, their words are for fight!

00:43:45.000 You're going to get some people angry.

00:43:47.000 We have a lot of Brazilian fans.

00:43:49.000 So one of these dudes was there.

00:43:52.000 I was getting introduced to everybody around the way.

00:43:54.000 And a guy was sitting next to me.

00:43:56.000 And this is old boy.

00:43:57.000 And old boy wants to fight in the UFC. And then old boy heard it.

00:44:01.000 And he actually interrupted him and said, excuse me, I will fight in the UFC. And I was like, oh, well, right on.

00:44:06.000 Where we train at is normally over here.

00:44:08.000 And he's a heavyweight.

00:44:09.000 He was a strength coach.

00:44:09.000 He's a big dude.

00:44:10.000 Big, big dude.

00:44:11.000 Can lift 1,000 pounds.

00:44:12.000 Yeah.

00:44:14.000 Doesn't look like he takes steroids.

00:44:15.000 He's a normal, natural guy.

00:44:16.000 And he's like, excuse me, like interrupted him, was offended that he said wants to and did not say he will.

00:44:22.000 And then so we started training with that dude.

00:44:24.000 And this week, I think, I think it was actually last Wednesday, a week ago today. 0.99

00:44:29.000 Like, you know, we're sparring and we're doing some stand-up work, and I'm like, hey, dude, and we're whooping his ass. 0.51

00:44:34.000 I'm like, hey, guy, like, don't you dare take low kicks and blah, blah, blah, and collapse and fall down and sit out rounds when everybody else is working, and you're trying to tell me that you're going to do what I do? 0.89

00:44:42.000 Like, what I do is that easy?

00:44:44.000 Right.

00:44:44.000 Like, don't disrespect my career by your ego saying that you're going to be able to do what I do and then come in here and then fail miserably at it but still maintain to the public that you're going to do what I do.

00:44:52.000 Like, I find that highly offensive.

00:44:54.000 Well, and that's the delusion.

00:44:56.000 People can lie to themselves, right?

00:44:57.000 People can just convince themselves, and if they don't have to do it, and that's why karate and taekwondo, and specifically like Krav Maga and these fighting systems where it's like, Target training, man! 0.90

00:45:04.000 I would smash your nose!

00:45:05.000 Yeah, but you've never actually done it. 0.84

00:45:07.000 Now, even though, like you said, jiu-jitsu nerds, I mean, I've done, I started with judo, and, you know, my dad is actually, like, was, you know, competes, hasn't lost a match, let alone a round in jiu-jitsu.

00:45:17.000 At purple belt, he's 55, and he goes in 40 and over open weight.

00:45:20.000 Trains with Guy Mezger.

00:45:21.000 So, over there in Dallas.

00:45:23.000 So, you know, there's some cross-training, and we agree that a lot of jiu-jitsu has become very sport-specific, and people are getting bored now when they hear it, but it's not very useful.

00:45:30.000 It's on the way to becoming an American taekwondo.

00:45:32.000 Yes, exactly.

00:45:33.000 Absolutely.

00:45:33.000 With inverted stuff, and it doesn't really work.

00:45:34.000 That being said, it still does allow someone, like my dad is 55, to actually compete, unlike just the theoretical martial arts.

00:45:41.000 So there is value there.

00:45:42.000 And listen...

00:45:43.000 I also feel like there's no better self-defense for women than jiu-jitsu.

00:45:47.000 I know where you're going, and you're going to imply that we're gay because of the guard.

00:45:51.000 No, no, not at all, whatsoever.

00:45:53.000 I'm going to apply, like, if a man wants a woman on the ground, she's going to end up on the ground. 1.00

00:45:56.000 There's nothing she can do about it.

00:45:57.000 Well, the Gracies teach that in Torrance, and they teach the psychology of that very effectively.

00:46:01.000 Well, it's accurate.

00:46:02.000 It's highly accurate.

00:46:03.000 And, like, I've got an ex-wife.

00:46:05.000 Any girlfriend I ever have again in my life, or my daughter, they're all going to do jiu-jitsu.

00:46:10.000 Because it's the safest way for a woman to be able to manipulate a man in any situation where she's the victim, and she can handle herself very efficiently. 0.74

00:46:18.000 Unless the Indian sunburn is a wiener. 0.98

00:46:20.000 I read a story about that once, and I think that would be effective.

00:46:23.000 Like a meagy burn?

00:46:25.000 No, no, no.

00:46:26.000 The Indian sunburn is where you... 0.99

00:46:26.000 It's like ringing. 0.99

00:46:28.000 Would you ever...

00:46:29.000 This is visual.

00:46:30.000 They're like, what are they talking about?

00:46:30.000 People are listening to Rush.

00:46:31.000 Let's send a formal complaint to the FCC. Would you let your daughter fight Fallon Fox? 1.00

00:46:37.000 No.

00:46:38.000 I just wanted to throw...

00:46:38.000 Never.

00:46:39.000 I wanted to see if you were paying attention, Mr.

00:46:43.000 I don't think what...

00:46:43.000 Mitrione.

00:46:45.000 If anybody fights Fallon Fox now, Fallon Fox's history is wide out in the open. 0.98

00:46:50.000 So if a woman fights Fallon Fox, they chose that knowingly, and if they get their ass beat, then they say, hey, that's on you. 0.97

00:46:56.000 But now at least it's disclosed and it's out in the open. 1.00

00:46:58.000 It's just going to be a bunch of tolerant progressives who want to prove a point and get their ass kicked. 1.00

00:47:02.000 And just get smoked. 1.00

00:47:03.000 I am open-minded.

00:47:05.000 Oh, I was wrong!

00:47:06.000 I was wrong!

00:47:07.000 I don't want to do this.

00:47:08.000 I don't want to do it.

00:47:09.000 I don't want to do this!

00:47:11.000 You know, I remember the first time I had a fight.

00:47:13.000 It was in Indianapolis.

00:47:14.000 It was right before I went on an ultimate fighter.

00:47:16.000 And I remember seeing somebody, and I couldn't understand it, at the same place about two or three fights before, actually tap on the cage when they closed the door.

00:47:25.000 As soon as the fight said, go, he tapped on the cage and said, I'm done.

00:47:28.000 I don't want to be in it.

00:47:29.000 I didn't understand that at the time, but it's a real come-to-Jesus moment.

00:47:29.000 Yeah.

00:47:33.000 Like, you questioned so much about yourself and your life right before that.

00:47:37.000 Like, this decision.

00:47:38.000 Like, what the hell am I doing?

00:47:39.000 Why am I here?

00:47:40.000 I had that in my first judo tournament.

00:47:42.000 Because judo's a pretty high level in Montreal.

00:47:43.000 They have an Olympian there, Nicholas Gill.

00:47:45.000 And so you get a lot...

00:47:46.000 It'd be like a wrestling tournament. 0.94

00:47:47.000 And a guy who claimed he fought MMA before went in and snapped his arm.

00:47:51.000 And then everyone else was going, oh my god.

00:47:53.000 And I had a guy getting...

00:47:54.000 Wait, the guy who claimed it snapped his own arm?

00:47:55.000 In judo.

00:47:56.000 Yeah, he fell and didn't know how to fall and snapped his arm.

00:47:58.000 And then we were up next and the guy was going against.

00:48:01.000 There was an accidental headbutt.

00:48:02.000 And he freaked out.

00:48:03.000 And he tapped and he left. 0.98

00:48:05.000 Oh gosh, we have to get going here, not gay Jared. 1.00

00:48:07.000 Well listen, maybe we can do some web extended here with Matt Mitrione for people listening to wrestling.

00:48:12.000 Where's the best place for people to find you before we leave you?

00:48:14.000 At Matt Mitrione, M-I-T-R-I-O-N-E, Twitter or Instagram. 0.89

00:48:18.000 Italians or Polish, they always have to spell out their name for our listeners, not gay, Jared. 0.92

00:48:22.000 They do. 0.96

00:48:23.000 It's a form of discrimination that's not addressed so much because they're still in the queue behind chicks with wieners. 1.00

00:48:23.000 It's unfortunate. 1.00

00:48:30.000 So, people like Matt Matreon don't get his due.

00:48:34.000 That's a privilege that other people have that they don't talk about.

00:48:37.000 Not talked about.

00:48:38.000 It's upsetting.

00:48:39.000 I'm amazed that you're so cool about this.

00:48:41.000 Alright, Matt.

00:48:42.000 We will talk here afterward and we'll say all the things we can't say on air.

00:48:46.000 A lot of with Crowder.

00:48:47.000 Stay tuned, everybody.

00:48:48.000 All right, all right. all right.

00:49:07.000 The double secret patriarchy meeting is now in session.

00:49:10.000 First item of business. 0.80

00:49:12.000 It is very important that we make sure women don't catch on to the fact that marriage is nothing more than glorified rape. 0.52

00:49:19.000 So please keep that under your hats, shall you?

00:49:21.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:49:22.000 Alright.

00:49:23.000 On to item number two.

00:49:25.000 We need unified standards on what will be determined as the most recent oppressive standards of beauty that we don't even like.

00:49:32.000 Anybody have suggestions?

00:49:33.000 Yeah, me.

00:49:34.000 Yes, Bradley.

00:49:35.000 Yeah, I was just thinking maybe we could tell women or the people who do the magazines that we like bigger breasts and nice bodies. 0.99

00:49:48.000 Even though we don't like any of those things.

00:49:50.000 Brilliant, Bradley.

00:49:51.000 That will really screw with their heads.

00:49:53.000 Anyone else?

00:49:54.000 Yeah, over here.

00:49:55.000 Yes, Phil Cool.

00:49:56.000 Yeah, I was thinking, like, maybe we tell people that we like women more, you know, who are more nurturing and good around the house.

00:50:06.000 Ha! 0.89

00:50:07.000 Even though clearly men are not attracted to any of those qualities in the opposite sex. 0.80

00:50:11.000 Good thinking, Phil.

00:50:13.000 We'll be sure to maintain our death grip on oppression.

00:50:16.000 Okay, one more.

00:50:17.000 Yes, you in the back there, Perry.

00:50:19.000 How about we put out the notion that we like our women To look like women. 1.00

00:50:25.000 Oh, that's glorious.

00:50:27.000 Even though men clearly like women who look like androgynous little boys, we'll tell them that we prefer them looking feminine. 0.94

00:50:34.000 Oh, that'll be sure to get their goat and grind their gears. 1.00

00:50:37.000 Well, I think we have a lot to work with this week.

00:50:40.000 Refreshments are in the back, but keep it to a two-per-person maximum.

00:50:44.000 Double-secret patriarchy meeting is adjourned.

00:50:47.000 See you next Tuesday.

00:51:16.000 Glad to be back.

00:51:19.000 Come on.

00:51:20.000 No cough button.

00:51:21.000 Don't talk!

00:51:22.000 I haven't introduced you. 0.98

00:51:23.000 Not Gay Jared, that's enough. 1.00

00:51:23.000 No cough button. 1.00

00:51:24.000 What?

00:51:25.000 Oh, I was just going to say, we get so many requests on who is that artist.

00:51:25.000 What did you want?

00:51:29.000 Oh, that artist is Pogo.

00:51:30.000 Pogo.

00:51:31.000 In the second hour, that artist is Pogo.

00:51:33.000 Yep.

00:51:34.000 Wishery by Pogo.

00:51:35.000 Wishery by Pogo.

00:51:36.000 And we have another one that is Bangarang?

00:51:38.000 Bangarang by Pogo.

00:51:40.000 We use a lot of independent artists here.

00:51:40.000 People like the music.

00:51:42.000 By the way, if you're a band, if you're an artist listening, and you think that your stuff works with the show, you can always send them.

00:51:46.000 We'll be glad to give you credit.

00:51:48.000 No money, though.

00:51:49.000 We don't believe in it.

00:51:51.000 We don't believe in it.

00:51:52.000 Bitcoins we got.

00:51:53.000 Bitcoins and gold and hybrid seeds.

00:51:56.000 And silver.

00:51:57.000 So coming up after the half hour here, we're going to have Dr.

00:52:02.000 Phyllis Boniface, who's going to talk about why John Hopkins won't, the hospital, of course, network of hospitals, I don't know what you call it, what John Hopkins is officially, will not perform the sex change operation surgery, which they performed for a long time.

00:52:14.000 So she's lectured on biological psychiatry for over 30 years.

00:52:19.000 So I think she'll be able to help us out.

00:52:21.000 We're going to get to the Katie Couric rebuttal, The Gun Lies.

00:52:24.000 That is important to get to.

00:52:26.000 But I want to do something else first, because this is a longer segment, and we have time to do it.

00:52:31.000 So, this video went viral.

00:52:33.000 Well, I guess, has it gone viral yet?

00:52:35.000 I think semi-viral.

00:52:36.000 It's getting there.

00:52:37.000 So this video is kind of going semi-viral.

00:52:42.000 It's a feminist video, and I don't want to get into it too much before I just... 1.00

00:52:48.000 I mean, she's going to make my argument for me.

00:52:50.000 I'll set the stage with, it's basically telling women that you cannot at all justify marriage as a feminist.

00:52:58.000 Not Gay Jared, let's roll the first clip. 1.00

00:53:04.000 Dress it up, subvert it, deny it all you want.

00:53:09.000 Marriage is an institution that has curtailed women's freedom for centuries. 0.99

00:53:13.000 Okay, first thing, right off the bat, for those listening terrestrially, do you notice something?

00:53:18.000 Right away.

00:53:19.000 The woman she's mocking, the old 50s woman vacuuming? 1.00

00:53:22.000 Fetching lady. 0.98

00:53:24.000 She's a fetching lady. 1.00

00:53:25.000 The feminist doing the mocking? 1.00

00:53:27.000 Yeah. 0.92

00:53:27.000 I'll not care! 0.92

00:53:31.000 Yes! 1.00

00:53:32.000 Yes, the trash Muppet from... 1.00

00:53:33.000 Shocking resemblance. 1.00

00:53:35.000 Shocking resemblance.

00:53:36.000 Ad hominem?

00:53:36.000 Absolutely, but it's okay because we're going to get substantive now.

00:53:39.000 Jared, roll clip two.

00:53:39.000 Let's go back.

00:53:40.000 But instead of rejecting the patriarchal and outdated tradition, some feminists have decided to reclaim it. 1.00

00:53:48.000 We may have progressed since the Industrial Revolution, where Mary Wollstonecraft described marriage as little more than a state of legal prostitution.

00:53:56.000 But let's not kid ourselves.

00:53:58.000 Even today, marriage is not about equality.

00:54:02.000 It's about perpetuating male privilege.

00:54:05.000 Being given away by your father may seem cute and romantic.

00:54:09.000 But it stems from a time when women were seen literally as their father's and then their husband's property.

00:54:17.000 Okay, property?

00:54:18.000 Like I said, we have to get substantive.

00:54:20.000 But if women are property, you're a bad investment. 1.00

00:54:24.000 The real estate bubble popped and gave us the nightmare that is you.

00:54:28.000 You appreciate it so fast.

00:54:30.000 No, women now are not getting married. 1.00

00:54:34.000 And being given off as property.

00:54:36.000 That's not what's happening right now, okay?

00:54:38.000 Something also important, she talks about the prostitution, the quote on marriage is effectively prostitution.

00:54:43.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:54:44.000 When you sit there and you demand that the government subsidize birth control, when you demand that the government subsidize your sexcapades, Personally.

00:54:51.000 Listen, you do whatever you want.

00:54:52.000 You want to do pup play?

00:54:53.000 I don't care, okay? 0.99

00:54:54.000 I have a Vietnamese sex hammock. 0.99

00:54:55.000 It doesn't bother me. 0.95

00:54:56.000 When you demand that the taxpayer subsidize it, however, well, now I have opinions.

00:55:00.000 And guess what?

00:55:01.000 You want to talk about prostitution? 0.97

00:55:03.000 You've just made the taxpayer your pimp. 1.00

00:55:07.000 Is Steven Crowder going to have to slap a bitch? 1.00

00:55:09.000 Roll clip three. 1.00

00:55:10.000 The majority of brides still opt for a white gown. 0.98

00:55:13.000 Beautiful?

00:55:13.000 Yes, indeed.

00:55:14.000 But the implication that brides should be virgins is both ludicrous and insulting to women. 0.99

00:55:20.000 That a female who has had sex is somehow spoilt goods goes against everything feminists claim to stand for. 1.00

00:55:27.000 Right. 0.98

00:55:28.000 Well, by the way, not the feminists who are on the movement now and supporting Islam. 0.68

00:55:31.000 You see that all across campus.

00:55:33.000 Feminism and Islam, right? 1.00

00:55:35.000 First off, I agree. 1.00

00:55:37.000 It's horrible.

00:55:38.000 It is horrible in some anti-community, anti-women communities out there, Islamic communities, that only virgins are valuable, right?

00:55:45.000 You're promised virgins in heaven. 0.99

00:55:47.000 Saddam Hussein Hussein, they used to rape schoolgirls and laugh about how they deflowered them. 1.00

00:55:52.000 Effectively, you're worthless. 1.00

00:55:53.000 They take pride in deflowering women. 1.00

00:55:55.000 That's absolutely awful. 0.99

00:55:56.000 Now, that's an Islamic thing.

00:55:58.000 In the Western world, men weren't rewarded with virgins.

00:56:02.000 Heaven isn't promised with virgins. 1.00

00:56:03.000 Women aren't devalued if they're not virgins. 1.00

00:56:06.000 Now, granted, yeah, for a long time, men did want to be married to virgins.

00:56:11.000 That was considered a good thing.

00:56:13.000 It has nothing to do with systemic oppression.

00:56:15.000 This may not appease the feminist gods. 1.00

00:56:18.000 The general rule was, it was nice to be married to a non-whore. 1.00

00:56:23.000 Now, does that mean that if you're not a virgin that you're necessarily a whore? 0.99

00:56:27.000 No, no, no, no. 0.99

00:56:27.000 It doesn't. 0.99

00:56:28.000 But it's a starting barometer.

00:56:30.000 And back in the day, it was something that they used as a barometer.

00:56:35.000 Same thing now when men talk. 0.72

00:56:37.000 They want to marry nice women.

00:56:38.000 Women who are good.

00:56:39.000 Women who are faithful.

00:56:40.000 Women who will raise their family well. 1.00

00:56:42.000 Therefore, they tend to stay away from, forgive my language, whores. 1.00

00:56:48.000 But it's not the same as Islam, and women are entirely valueless. 1.00

00:56:52.000 And also, they want to make sure these virgins never enjoy sex, so they genuinely mutilate them so they can't experience sexual pleasure. 1.00

00:56:58.000 But that's always surprised me. 0.98

00:56:59.000 Guys who want the female circumcision to ensure they have no pleasure. 0.98

00:57:02.000 How awful must your game be? 0.98

00:57:04.000 How weak must your game be?

00:57:06.000 You know, they're just telling them, like, no pride.

00:57:08.000 No, I'm great at this.

00:57:09.000 Too bad you can't feel it. 1.00

00:57:11.000 Oh, I'm a regular Don Juan, you piece of crap. 1.00

00:57:14.000 All right, let's roll the next clip. 1.00

00:57:15.000 I know feminists who've taken their husband's name because they say it's easier. 1.00

00:57:20.000 Easier than changing your passport, email address, utilities bills, and bank account details, I suppose.

00:57:29.000 Yes.

00:57:30.000 Yes.

00:57:31.000 Yes, it is easier than all of those things. 0.98

00:57:34.000 Particularly because in patriarchal traditionalist times, I just want to explain this to women who don't really understand marriage because they don't want to acknowledge the advantages and feminists can't wrap their giant fat meatheads around it. 1.00

00:57:46.000 In particularly traditionalist patriarchal times, as you mentioned, once it was done, you joined bank accounts, whatever it was, you had your male as your sole provider in traditionalist roles.

00:57:55.000 That's what women had. 1.00

00:57:57.000 So you had to change your last name and bank account and you never had to work again.

00:58:04.000 Now, let's fast forward to today where that's not necessarily the case.

00:58:07.000 Many women don't take their husband's last name. 0.98

00:58:09.000 They don't necessarily join bank accounts.

00:58:10.000 Sometimes they've made more.

00:58:12.000 And they're not necessarily expected to be homemakers if they once were. 0.84

00:58:17.000 Some of them don't cook.

00:58:17.000 Some of them don't clean.

00:58:18.000 Now, that's fine.

00:58:19.000 That's your right.

00:58:19.000 You can work instead and do those things.

00:58:21.000 Okay?

00:58:22.000 So that's what we have nowadays. 0.99

00:58:24.000 But they can still decide to leave the man's sorry ass with no justification whatsoever in many places across the globe and take half of his stuff forever, for the rest of their life. 0.96

00:58:38.000 So they can now do none of those things. 0.98

00:58:41.000 None of the joint bank accounts, none of the changes in the last name, and do none of the things that men tend to find attractive in a woman, right? 0.98

00:58:47.000 Cooking, being nice, not being a whore. 1.00

00:58:51.000 Women don't have to do any of those things, and they can still take your stuff for the rest of your life. 1.00

00:58:55.000 So, yeah, I think you have a good deal.

00:58:57.000 Now, let's roll the next clip.

00:58:59.000 You're basically being branded so anyone who sees your name knows immediately who you belong to.

00:59:06.000 Even if a woman does away with all these traditions, accept it. 0.99

00:59:10.000 Marriage can never be a feminist act. 1.00

00:59:15.000 Well, we didn't have the bit there about forced child brides and stuff. 0.97

00:59:17.000 Is that the next clip?

00:59:18.000 Okay, let's do that.

00:59:19.000 Let's get to that next clip because I don't really need to talk about her PETA insertion with branding animals. 0.93

00:59:24.000 It's just silly. 0.77

00:59:25.000 They pull out all the stops. 0.85

00:59:27.000 Go to the next clip.

00:59:28.000 It has formed the backdrop to women's oppression for centuries, and it continues to do so. 1.00

00:59:33.000 Forced marriage, child brides, and polygamy all show how human rights violations of women and girls all too often go hand in hand with marriage. 0.66

00:59:41.000 Okay, alright, listen.

00:59:43.000 Forced marriage and child brides have nothing to do with voluntary marriage in the Western world. 0.70

00:59:47.000 Okay, to conflate the two is just not fair.

00:59:50.000 It's intellectually dishonest, which one could argue might be your goal here in the first place.

00:59:54.000 That's the game.

00:59:55.000 Now, I would agree with you. 0.91

00:59:57.000 Muhammad had Aisha, a six-year-old girl, married off to him, and he screwed the daylights out of her. 0.96

01:00:02.000 To be fair, maybe when she was nine, Muhammad maybe only punched her and screwed her when she was nine. 0.95

01:00:06.000 I think that's bad. 0.97

01:00:08.000 Now, I married a smoking hot tall blonde who I love, and she loves me. 1.00

01:00:12.000 And we entered into a mutually agreed-upon relationship. 0.99

01:00:16.000 Mohammed raping a six-year-old girl? 1.00

01:00:18.000 Bad. 1.00

01:00:19.000 That marriage, I would argue, good.

01:00:21.000 You don't have to think so, but I think so.

01:00:24.000 See the difference?

01:00:25.000 Next clip.

01:00:26.000 It was not until 1991 that rape in marriage was made a criminal offense in England and Wales.

01:00:34.000 And, today, it's still perfectly legal for a man to rape his wife in 47 countries worldwide.

01:00:42.000 47 countries worldwide, for those listening.

01:00:44.000 If you look at those, okay, look at the countries she names.

01:00:47.000 Hmm.

01:00:48.000 Is there any kind of a disturbing trend that one might notice with this list?

01:00:55.000 Is there any sort of a statistical trend that one might want to observe for causation?

01:01:01.000 Anything that sticks out?

01:01:06.000 Iran, Libya, all of them are Islamic or communist. 0.97

01:01:10.000 The only one on there, I think, is Singapore, which is effectively a benevolent dictatorship.

01:01:16.000 So let's ignore that.

01:01:17.000 Yeah, the problem is marriage.

01:01:19.000 It's not Islam, where the founder of the feast, Muhammad, abused his wife and did do all the forced marriages and child brides. 0.99

01:01:25.000 That's all we have for clips, right?

01:01:26.000 We have one more.

01:01:27.000 We have one more.

01:01:28.000 Okay, one more.

01:01:29.000 This is important because I guarantee you they're going to be showing this in schools.

01:01:32.000 And then we'll give you our conclusion, which will be triggering.

01:01:35.000 So if you want to get married, then just get on with it.

01:01:39.000 But please stop pretending that because you're a feminist, it's some kind of subversive statement. 1.00

01:01:45.000 I love Snoop Dogg, despite his woman-hating lyrics.

01:01:49.000 But I don't pretend that listening to him...

01:01:54.000 She goes on to just say you can't really rectify feminism. 1.00

01:01:57.000 You can't justify feminism. 1.00

01:01:59.000 First off, Snoop Dogg wasn't entirely wrong there.

01:02:02.000 If we're talking about this video.

01:02:04.000 What do I think about this video in conclusion?

01:02:07.000 Well, it is one hell of a PSA for marriage.

01:02:10.000 I think most people watch this who aren't part of the social justice regressive left and they go, hmm, okay.

01:02:16.000 Can I live in an institution, as you put it, where I'm...

01:02:20.000 Get rid of that, not good, you're right.

01:02:22.000 We're going to a break?

01:02:23.000 Yeah, going to a break.

01:02:24.000 We have 30 seconds?

01:02:25.000 30 seconds.

01:02:26.000 You gave me the signal for three minutes.

01:02:27.000 No, 30 seconds.

01:02:28.000 See the zero?

01:02:28.000 There's a zero there.

01:02:29.000 I didn't see a zero.

01:02:30.000 Yeah, there was a zero.

01:02:31.000 I thought you were referring to yourself.

01:02:32.000 10 seconds now.

01:02:32.000 We'll come back and we'll give you the conclusion on this.

01:02:35.000 Feminist rebuttal. 1.00

01:02:35.000 Louderworth Crowder. 1.00

01:02:36.000 Stay tuned.

01:02:37.000 Stay tuned.

01:02:57.000 You know what I am?

01:02:59.000 I'm like a dog chasing cars.

01:03:01.000 I wouldn't know what to do if I caught one.

01:03:04.000 I just do things.

01:03:09.000 Do me!

01:03:11.000 Stay tuned to Louder with Crowder for more exclusive looks.

01:03:16.000 Glad to be back.

01:03:36.000 Sorry, I was on a roll there.

01:03:37.000 I felt like I had to get into it. 0.96

01:03:38.000 So we were talking about marriage, and we were talking about this feminist video with the junk muppet from Labyrinth. 1.00

01:03:46.000 Disgusting. 1.00

01:03:47.000 Good call. 0.99

01:03:50.000 Good call.

01:03:51.000 Get some Purell in there.

01:03:53.000 Now, listen.

01:03:54.000 I know not everyone agrees with me on this, but I'm a big fan of marriage.

01:03:57.000 I've talked about marriage, and I've talked about my advocacy.

01:04:00.000 For marriage.

01:04:01.000 Now, marriage is not only the single biggest indicator for economic stability, growth, wealth creation.

01:04:07.000 It's also the single most important indicator we have for health, happiness, longevity.

01:04:12.000 These are statistically...

01:04:13.000 Children.

01:04:14.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:04:14.000 Children's success.

01:04:16.000 Children's success.

01:04:17.000 The biggest indicator people want to talk about.

01:04:19.000 Schools, lunches, eating your Cheerios.

01:04:22.000 The single greatest indicator we have...

01:04:25.000 of the success for children is, do you have a mommy and daddy, and are mommy and daddy still married in the house?

01:04:32.000 Particularly a daddy, actually.

01:04:33.000 When you get into the real stats, yes, it's important to have marriage, but particularly if you see fathers leaving, it tends to be more corrosive than, say, a widower.

01:04:43.000 I don't want to get too far off in the weeds.

01:04:45.000 But that actually is the biggest determining factor.

01:04:47.000 If you want free school, and you want welfare, and you want to increase the social safety net, and people really want to accomplish this, With children, married mommy and daddy is the biggest statistic we have to determine if that child graduates high school, goes to college, gets a job, is mentally well adjusted, is gainfully employed, goes on to have a family of his own, doesn't go to prison.

01:05:10.000 Same thing, you know, you may not like it, you may not like the idea of marriage, and that's fine.

01:05:16.000 But if mommy and daddy aren't married, the likelihood of that kid ending up in prison, not graduating school, having behavioral issues, go up an alarming amount.

01:05:29.000 That's just reality.

01:05:32.000 And this is why, as we addressed last week, you know, Karl Marx wasn't only a communist.

01:05:37.000 We talked about this.

01:05:37.000 A lot of people don't realize, Karl Marx wrote a lot about why he hated marriage.

01:05:40.000 Now, he disguised it as though it was due to the fact that the only reason people entered into marriage was because, he admitted, it was such a great indicator of wealth and economic growth and stability.

01:05:50.000 And he was saying people shouldn't be entering marriage for those incentives, which is why they enter marriage under capitalism.

01:05:55.000 In other words, he was saying, yeah, marriage makes...

01:05:57.000 Very successful, wealthy people, couples, families under capitalism.

01:06:02.000 But it's not for love.

01:06:03.000 It's for those things.

01:06:04.000 Now again, what you're doing is you're taking an observable statistic and then applying an opinion, as Karl Marx did.

01:06:08.000 And many people out there seem to agree with Karl Marx.

01:06:11.000 But that's the reality.

01:06:12.000 He was incredibly anti-family.

01:06:15.000 Why?

01:06:16.000 Karl Marx wanted to destroy the institutions that were necessary for a free society.

01:06:21.000 Good example, like right now, we're not only talking about marriage with feminists, but they want to teach heteronormativity in college. 1.00

01:06:26.000 This is the problem.

01:06:27.000 Heteronormativity.

01:06:28.000 Well, the heteronormativity that you're talking about and you're bitching about is just the reality that the vast majority, meaning 97% of people on Earth are heterosexual.

01:06:38.000 Thus, that is seen as the barometer for normal.

01:06:42.000 Does it mean better than?

01:06:44.000 No.

01:06:45.000 Does abnormal mean you're subhuman?

01:06:47.000 Abnormal means something that is not in line with the norm.

01:06:52.000 97%.

01:06:53.000 You're not going to find that unity anywhere else.

01:06:55.000 You're not going to find that kind of a statistic anywhere else as far as a majority.

01:06:59.000 3.8% if you include all LGBTQAAIP. According to Gallup, it was cited by GLAAD, identify as some form of alternative sexual lifestyle.

01:06:59.000 97%.

01:07:11.000 So, okay, we'll give it to you.

01:07:13.000 96.

01:07:13.000 We'll give it to you.

01:07:15.000 96%.

01:07:15.000 So, feminists want to destroy, and this is the same with social justice leftists, and liberalism in general, which stemming back from Karl Marx, destroy the institutions of marriage.

01:07:26.000 Destroy the institutions of capitalism.

01:07:29.000 Destroy the heteronormativity.

01:07:31.000 Let's do away with that.

01:07:32.000 Let's make people think that heterosexuality isn't any more normal.

01:07:37.000 Isn't any more of a majority than... 0.83

01:07:40.000 Homosexuality or pup play, as we see now. 1.00

01:07:44.000 Why?

01:07:45.000 Well, the biggest enemy of leftists, of social justice leftists, is reality.

01:07:49.000 That's their biggest enemy.

01:07:51.000 That's why they want to silence speech.

01:07:53.000 That's why they don't believe in mathematical statistics as it relates to tax plans.

01:07:57.000 Their biggest enemy, the biggest shutdown argument, is reality.

01:08:00.000 Now, I'm not just talking about liberals.

01:08:02.000 I'm not just talking about all liberals, some people who can make economic arguments and they don't agree with the Laffer curve, and I understand that.

01:08:06.000 I'm talking about social justice leftists.

01:08:10.000 And so what they need to do is destroy the institutions that are reflective of reality.

01:08:15.000 Marriage is a good thing. 0.87

01:08:18.000 Heteronormativity is reality.

01:08:19.000 Free speech is a good thing.

01:08:22.000 Second Amendment is a good thing.

01:08:23.000 Earning your own wealth is a good thing.

01:08:25.000 They have to destroy all of those so they can create their new reality. 0.98

01:08:29.000 A new reality where everyone is some kind of a pansexual boy-looking amoeba. 0.98

01:08:34.000 Gender is simply a figment of your imagination. 1.00

01:08:37.000 Marriage is done away with.

01:08:38.000 Nobody ever gets to hear anything that makes them feel uncomfortable or with which they disagree.

01:08:43.000 Everyone gets to steal by government force the wealth accruement of other people.

01:08:50.000 So that they can be happy.

01:08:51.000 That's the reality that they want to create.

01:08:53.000 And to do so, and they have the ability to with kids in school, they have to destroy the institutions that aren't just institutions.

01:09:00.000 That's the term they use, right?

01:09:01.000 An institution isn't necessarily a bad thing.

01:09:03.000 The institution of marriage is conducive towards a healthy, productive society.

01:09:07.000 You may not like it.

01:09:08.000 You don't have to do it.

01:09:09.000 No one's forcing you.

01:09:10.000 Again.

01:09:11.000 It's a statistical reality.

01:09:13.000 These institutions are merely reflections of a reality that these social leftists don't like, and so they try to destroy them. 0.83

01:09:20.000 This woman is trying to tell you that every woman out there who is getting married is effectively being sold off as property against her will, and once the honeymoon door closes, that husband has full license to rape her. 1.00

01:09:31.000 Granted, in Islamic societies, that is true. 1.00

01:09:33.000 I will give you that.

01:09:35.000 But it is not indicative of what happens with the left.

01:09:37.000 And guess what? 0.91

01:09:40.000 They want to create these new realities so that you can all be as miserable as the bridge troll who created this video. 0.67

01:09:45.000 Anyone want to believe that this woman is happier than the pretty feminine looking woman who puts on some makeup, who has a man who loves her and who has kids who run home and say, Mommy, Mommy, glad you're home.

01:09:57.000 Anyone really want to make that argument?

01:09:59.000 You think these people are happier?

01:10:00.000 You think Trigglypuff is happier?

01:10:02.000 Do you think those kids are happier?

01:10:02.000 No.

01:10:04.000 Do you think those kids are happier in a household with the lesbian boy-cutted butch chain gang from BuzzFeed? 1.00

01:10:12.000 Do you think maybe those kids might be happier if they come home with mommy and daddy curl up with some chocolate milk and watch a heteronormative programming? 0.95

01:10:19.000 I would be.

01:10:20.000 I think most kids would be.

01:10:22.000 I still am.

01:10:23.000 But they hate that.

01:10:23.000 That's like nails on a chalkboard.

01:10:25.000 Coming home to a mommy and daddy and watching G.I. Joe?

01:10:27.000 Oh, that has to stop.

01:10:28.000 And guess what?

01:10:29.000 No one's buying it anymore.

01:10:32.000 We're able to make arguments.

01:10:33.000 I've been on YouTube, and we've been out there for a long time, for years, and people are starting to come over to this side.

01:10:38.000 Things that we could have never said a couple years ago, people agree with now. 0.99

01:10:42.000 People aren't buying your crap anymore, leftists. 0.99

01:10:45.000 They don't believe you. 0.99

01:10:47.000 And I think that's a beautiful thing, unlike the lady who created this video.

01:10:49.000 Do we have a doctor coming up next?

01:10:51.000 Dr.

01:10:51.000 Doctor coming up next.

01:10:52.000 Phyllis Boniface talking about...

01:10:54.000 Gender identity disorder and why John Hopkins won't perform the surgery.

01:10:57.000 No opinion from her.

01:10:59.000 Just facts.

01:11:00.000 She's actually qualified.

01:11:01.000 Who would have thought?

01:11:02.000 Ladder with Crowder.

01:11:02.000 Stay tuned.

01:11:03.000 And now, an exclusive look at Spider-Man Gay Director's Cut.

01:11:25.000 *music* Now, remember, Peter.

01:11:32.000 With great power comes great responsibility. 0.98

01:11:37.000 And dicks. 0.99

01:11:40.000 Really, Uncle Ben? 0.99

01:11:41.000 Yes. 1.00

01:11:42.000 Lots of dicks. 1.00

01:11:44.000 Go get them, tiger. 0.99

01:11:46.000 Stay tuned to Lotter with Crowder for more exclusive looks.

01:11:50.000 I'm glad to be back.

01:12:20.000 Glad to have this next guest.

01:12:21.000 We've had her on before.

01:12:22.000 And hot button issues.

01:12:24.000 Hot button issues.

01:12:25.000 Yeah, always controversial here.

01:12:27.000 She's a live wire, you see?

01:12:28.000 She's a real firecracker, see? 1.00

01:12:30.000 She's also a doctor.

01:12:31.000 She's a very smart lady. 0.99

01:12:34.000 She's practiced and lectured on biological psychiatry for over 30 years.

01:12:38.000 So, contrast to what you think, Yahoo84 on YouTube.

01:12:43.000 I believe she's more qualified in her opinion.

01:12:46.000 I don't know for sure, but I will trust her.

01:12:47.000 Dr.

01:12:48.000 Phyllis Boniface, thank you for being with us.

01:12:50.000 Hi, Stephen.

01:12:51.000 Glad to have you with us.

01:12:52.000 And, of course, people in the comments section, if they don't like what you have to say, will simply say that you are completely unqualified.

01:12:58.000 We know that going in.

01:13:00.000 But you've worked in psychiatry for a long time.

01:13:02.000 We've had you on before.

01:13:04.000 And I was actually inspired to invite you back on because my wife saw something that you posted on Facebook.

01:13:09.000 And we've had different opinions on the trans issue on the show.

01:13:14.000 We've had pro, we've had against, we've had people who had sex change and regrets.

01:13:17.000 But from a psychological, from a psychiatric perspective...

01:13:21.000 What is the approach right now, I guess, mainstream in the medical side?

01:13:28.000 I don't know if you say industry, just the medical approach with this issue right now.

01:13:32.000 Smart people.

01:13:33.000 Smart people.

01:13:33.000 Smart people is the word you're looking for.

01:13:34.000 Is it settled?

01:13:35.000 Is it completely settled in anything that people say that would suggest that maybe it might not be a healthy transition considered hate speech?

01:13:43.000 Is that the consensus in the medical community?

01:13:46.000 Well, unfortunately, I think the medical community is also prone to bending to, you know, public opinion and fads.

01:13:55.000 Because, you know, one of the things that we use in psychiatry is called the DSM, the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Psychiatry.

01:14:03.000 And they've had five different versions of that.

01:14:06.000 They just came out with the DSM-5.

01:14:08.000 And so everything that is considered to be a psychiatric condition is categorized in there and given a number.

01:14:15.000 And so, you know, they tend to be splitters versus lumpers in that field. 0.98

01:14:21.000 You know, they're giving new names to things all the time and expanding diagnosis, which, you know, some people agree with that, some people don't.

01:14:28.000 I tend to think that they're putting too many diagnoses in there.

01:14:31.000 But the important difference in the last couple of years when they went from the DSM-IV, which was over a decade, To DSM-5 recently was that they recategorized transgenderism.

01:14:43.000 There used to be a diagnosis called gender identity disorder, which, you know, it implies that it's a disorder to be transgendered.

01:14:52.000 And the new version is called gender dysphoria.

01:14:56.000 So it does not call it a disorder.

01:14:58.000 The only problem is when people have dysphoria over it, which means unhappiness. 0.91

01:15:04.000 So you have to be distressed by the condition to qualify for a diagnosis now.

01:15:10.000 Is that the only qualification necessary, that you're distressed by what you've got hanging out or not hanging out between your legs?

01:15:19.000 Well, they have some specifics in there.

01:15:22.000 It says that you have the desire to be another sex, that you would strongly reject games and toys of the sex that you were born, that you would express the desire to be a girl if you were a boy or a boy if you were a girl.

01:15:40.000 So, you know, this is not typical of a psychiatric definition of something.

01:15:46.000 Usually there's some kind of science behind it.

01:15:49.000 Really?

01:15:50.000 Tonka trucks don't qualify?

01:15:52.000 He pushed the Tonka trucks away and grabbed the barbie.

01:15:54.000 Let's lop off his tallywhacker. 1.00

01:15:56.000 That's not the scientific process?

01:15:59.000 Well, actually, it's interesting you bring that up.

01:16:03.000 Because, you know, children, we'll talk about the stages of development, but, you know, there have been a lot of lobby groups that were trying to push for this.

01:16:11.000 And I actually unearthed some of the correspondence that went back and forth with the board that was actually generating the DSM-5.

01:16:18.000 So it's kind of like, you know, the people in Congress, they have all these...

01:16:22.000 People lobbying to get something they want out of it.

01:16:24.000 But there's a group called the World Professional Association of Transgender Health.

01:16:31.000 And if you do an acronym, it says WARPATH. Which is, you know, it tells you something.

01:16:39.000 It tells you something, yeah.

01:16:41.000 It doesn't seem as though it's out of place there.

01:16:44.000 Yeah, the letters they wrote to the APA and the different boards that were generating this tome...

01:16:51.000 They were talking about revising guidelines and to Make sure that they were recategorizing transgenderism as a non-normative but non-pathological.

01:17:04.000 So it means you're not like other people, but there's nothing wrong with it.

01:17:07.000 Now, why is that the case?

01:17:09.000 First off, if there's nothing wrong with it, why would it be causing, as you said, unhappiness, dysphoria? 0.84

01:17:14.000 And what was the reasoning for this push?

01:17:17.000 I mean, generally speaking, right, you can sort of look at a catalyst, a flash of genius moment, as to, we were wrong about this because...

01:17:25.000 Is there a consensus as to why the medical community was wrong in categorizing this as a disorder for so long?

01:17:33.000 Well, you know, medical organizations are political entities also.

01:17:38.000 And so, you know, I think one of the reasons they recategorize it as dysphoria is so people would get help, but they would get help for not transitioning from being a transgender, but to actually become more comfortable being a transgender.

01:17:53.000 So you have to follow the logic of switching the diagnosis.

01:17:58.000 Okay, I was going to ask, because on that front, is it Johns Hopkins or John Hopkins?

01:18:03.000 John Hopkins.

01:18:03.000 I always get that wrong.

01:18:04.000 Okay, and not Hodgkin's.

01:18:06.000 We're not going to get into Hodgkin's.

01:18:06.000 Not Hodgkin's, let's FOMO, which is better Hodgkin's.

01:18:09.000 Ugh, the worst.

01:18:10.000 Okay, and they won't perform it.

01:18:12.000 They used to, and they went back on that.

01:18:14.000 And I did see that you had posted on that.

01:18:15.000 Now, I've known that for a while.

01:18:16.000 It seemed like a lot of people were surprised at that.

01:18:20.000 So what is their reasoning, considering they went along that trail for a while and said, nah, you know what, this isn't the right course of action?

01:18:27.000 Well, they actually did prospective studies.

01:18:29.000 They followed people who'd had this transition and looked at what happened to them over the period of 20 or 30 years afterwards.

01:18:38.000 And, you know, in medicine, you're supposed to generate something that's evidence-based.

01:18:42.000 So you do something and you look at the outcome, and then you base further decisions on what happened the first time.

01:18:49.000 The real concern is that these individuals have done very poorly, and they had a 20 times higher rate of suicide than the general population.

01:19:00.000 Now, the push for transitioning people at this point, the rationale is to actually reduce suicide and depression.

01:19:09.000 At least that's their official task.

01:19:12.000 They say that if we allow more people to transition, there'll be better mental health.

01:19:17.000 When the outcome studies actually prove the opposite.

01:19:21.000 I've always read that it proves that they might be slightly better, inconclusive, but does it actually prove that they could be worse?

01:19:29.000 Well, I'm not sure.

01:19:30.000 The person's their own control.

01:19:30.000 How would you do it?

01:19:32.000 They didn't have a group that didn't transition.

01:19:36.000 Okay.

01:19:37.000 So, but the evidence certainly wouldn't point towards these success stories that they would like to have you believe, which is sad.

01:19:43.000 You know, my thing too, we know with hormones, right?

01:19:45.000 Obviously, as a psychiatrist, with hormones, the interaction between hormones and neurotransmitters, and testosterone, you know, you see with a lot of men who get like testosterone replacement therapy when they're older, that it helps their dopamine levels, right?

01:19:57.000 It's something that is incredibly important, particularly to men.

01:20:01.000 And to pump a man full of estrogen, A, we know that it's not good for you as far as cancer.

01:20:06.000 That's why there's this whole scare about xenoestrogens.

01:20:08.000 But I've got to imagine that putting estrogen into a male body, I don't even know how the male brain necessarily responds to it, that can't make one happier.

01:20:19.000 I would imagine it would have to affect neurotransmitters in a negative way, too.

01:20:23.000 Yes, you're exactly right.

01:20:25.000 A number of my elderly patients, actually men over the age of 50, not just elderly, But we do recommend hormone replacement for them, just as we do for women on the opposite side, because loss of testosterone does increase the incidence of depression and lack of energy.

01:20:47.000 I'm glad you brought this up, though, because this topic about hormones and the way the brain responds to them is very critical.

01:20:56.000 We know that the brain is exposed to all kinds of hormones in utero, even before birth.

01:21:02.000 There may be some influence of that in, for example, creation of homosexuality, which I do believe has a true biological basis. 1.00

01:21:12.000 Even Milo Yiannopoulos on the show, he said he thought it was a byproduct of both nature and nurture.

01:21:18.000 He said the truth lies probably between the two, and I think that's a rational approach.

01:21:22.000 Right.

01:21:23.000 Well, the problem is that the transgender movement, it's a mixed bag. 1.00

01:21:28.000 You know, you have what people consider true intersex condition, which is, you know, the hermaphrodite or pseudo-hermaphrodite, people that are born with organs of both sexes.

01:21:38.000 You know, the incidence of that is, you know, like one in 90,000 people.

01:21:43.000 So it's very, very rare.

01:21:45.000 There are other conditions where people...

01:21:47.000 And most of them, I was watching, most of them don't become transgender.

01:21:50.000 Most of them, they wait a couple years, or a significant portion, they wait a couple years and say, oh, he has more of a leaning towards a boy or a girl.

01:21:56.000 They pick one and they stick with it.

01:21:58.000 Most of them, they're not really representative of the transgender community.

01:22:02.000 No, they're not, actually.

01:22:03.000 But, you know, I think a lot of people think they're equivalent.

01:22:06.000 There were some things that happened in the medical community back in the 40s, 50s, and 60s where, you know, children were born with, they couldn't identify whether their genitalia was male or female, and the medical professionals just made a decision, and they did some kind of procedure which, you know, committed them to something.

01:22:23.000 Even though, say, they had an X, Y, and they were male, you know, they became a female as a result of that procedure, you know, anatomically.

01:22:31.000 So, I mean, there were some clearly missteps by the medical profession.

01:22:35.000 Sure.

01:22:35.000 And they always cite that.

01:22:37.000 But we're actually looking at people who want to go in the opposite direction.

01:22:41.000 There are some...

01:22:42.000 I was reviewing things about endocrinology.

01:22:45.000 It's a field that I'm very interested in.

01:22:47.000 I started off in internal medicine.

01:22:48.000 I would have done that if I didn't go into biological psychiatry.

01:22:53.000 They're actually advocating for children who express a gender dysphoria That they actually can have sex reassignment.

01:23:01.000 And what they're proposing is actually giving these children injections of something called to block the natatropin-releasing hormone.

01:23:09.000 That is the pulse that your brain delivers through the hypothalamus and pituitary that actually causes the sexual maturation at puberty.

01:23:20.000 So they are actually advocating and wanting to make it easier to achieve having this Injection done for children before puberty, so they don't go through puberty, and then waiting until they're 16 and then delivering the opposite hormone.

01:23:37.000 So, you know, they, for example, take a young girl.

01:23:39.000 Say she thinks she's a male.

01:23:41.000 They would actually block her puberty, and then a few years later, they would start giving her androgens.

01:23:46.000 So they're making these decisions at a very young age, and they're actually advocating for that.

01:23:54.000 They're trying to, again...

01:23:56.000 Which is so funny, because in the medical community, there have been so many groups lobbying against that same thing happening in the field of gymnastics or wrestling.

01:24:05.000 Exactly.

01:24:05.000 You know, you have young women who don't get their menstrual cycle or young men who are cutting weight.

01:24:09.000 They're wringing, you know, they're cutting weight, not losing weight, cutting weight.

01:24:12.000 They're wringing out their organs and dehydrating themselves.

01:24:14.000 And so some of them, you know, you go into high school, you wrestle at 112, and if you want to keep your spot, you stay at 112.

01:24:20.000 This is a common occurrence in wrestling and gymnastics are the sports I can particularly think of where the medical community has taken steps with athletic commissions and the Olympic community to say, you can't do this with kids.

01:24:32.000 It's catastrophic.

01:24:33.000 Yes, I agree.

01:24:35.000 You're actually doing something, you know, you're taking a person's genetics and you're doing the most potent epigenetic thing you can do.

01:24:43.000 Epigenetics is what you do to your genes that bring certain things out in the organism.

01:24:48.000 So you know, the hormones switch genes on and off at a very, very basic level.

01:24:53.000 They go right into the nucleus of the cell and they generate all of the activity, you know, production of RNA and protein and everything that the cells express As a result of the hormone that's being delivered, whether it's, you know, natural because the child's producing it or they're delivering it by injection.

01:25:13.000 So the fact that they're actually talking about this with children Is the part that is the most, I think, you know, concern, even to the point where I think it sounds a little diabolic.

01:25:24.000 Well, I want to hold that thought and continue with it in the next segment.

01:25:27.000 We have to go to a break with our evil sponsor, Overlords.

01:25:31.000 Dr.

01:25:31.000 Phyllis Boniface, you will be back.

01:25:32.000 We'll be talking more about this.

01:25:33.000 It's just fascinating.

01:25:34.000 I don't really have a whole bunch to add, and so in these situations, I try not to add too much, because I'm clearly taking away from the intelligent dialogue.

01:25:42.000 Imagine my position.

01:25:43.000 Yeah.

01:25:43.000 We both should feel great shame.

01:25:45.000 This is a nice lady. 1.00

01:25:45.000 Great shame. 1.00

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01:25:47.000 Be nice to her.

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01:26:04.000 But he hasn't proven that he's not.

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01:26:47.000 Alright, glad to be glad to be back.

01:27:13.000 Glad to be back with a doctor, Dr.

01:27:15.000 Phyllis Boniface.

01:27:16.000 We're glad to have her.

01:27:17.000 And not gay Jared doesn't often get to speak with doctors.

01:27:19.000 Usually, he's speaking about doctors in the witness stand, and they say, here's the doll.

01:27:23.000 Show us where they touched you.

01:27:25.000 Or I'm dying of the AIDS. Of the AIDS. This happened two weeks ago.

01:27:29.000 And that's the only, you know...

01:27:29.000 So, not good experiences with doctors.

01:27:31.000 So, Dr.

01:27:32.000 Boniface, we appreciate you reconditioning, Jared, to not fear all doctors.

01:27:38.000 That was very necessary.

01:27:39.000 Before we went to the break, you were talking about children, and you got into something that I don't quite understand, but about genetics.

01:27:45.000 What was the term?

01:27:46.000 Epi-something?

01:27:47.000 Epigenetics.

01:27:48.000 Okay, epigenetics, which is, is that a specific, was it about a suppression of something that happens through your genetics?

01:27:55.000 Forgive me, I'll let you take the wheel, but you were talking about with kids now in the transgender movement trying to get to them young and getting to why that could be a problem. 1.00

01:28:03.000 Yeah.

01:28:03.000 Well, you know, we're born with a certain genome, and what ends up being expressed is often a cause of what we're exposed to.

01:28:12.000 And so those are environmental causes, you know, experiences that we have.

01:28:16.000 Trauma, for example, we know can change what your genome produces.

01:28:21.000 But hormones are one of the most potent epigenetic factors.

01:28:25.000 You know, things change very rapidly after puberty.

01:28:31.000 I wanted to talk a little bit about the interface between the biology and the psychological aspects of children because I think there are a lot of people who studied psychology and they read Freud and they read Erickson and they know the different stages of childhood and psychological development and psychosexual development and what we know about that is really at odds with the idea that we are going to allow children to self-assign You know,

01:28:59.000 their gender identity in the future.

01:29:04.000 You know, we know, for example, you know, with the Freud's theories, and again, I'm not a Freudian, but, you know...

01:29:11.000 No, I don't want to have sex with relatives, so I think Freud was wrong about that.

01:29:15.000 But maybe he was right as it relates to, you know, Salon.com and HuffPo.

01:29:18.000 They seem pro that these days.

01:29:20.000 Well, you know, he describes at length from ages five until puberty, you know, he called that the latency phase.

01:29:26.000 That's kind of where people are not really, you know, firmly behaving as one sex or the other.

01:29:31.000 You know, they're very involved in other things and, you know, they're kind of, sometimes they have attraction to the opposite sex.

01:29:39.000 I think eight or nine percent of people in a survey remember having an attraction to the opposite sex, especially at that age, you know, up until puberty or just a little bit beyond.

01:29:49.000 So that's kind of rolled into normal development.

01:29:53.000 So again, you can see the difficulty with people kind of choosing their sex role When they're really not even fully through, you know, puberty yet.

01:30:03.000 Right.

01:30:03.000 And I know we can get super geeky, but we don't have a ton of time, and you're far smarter than most of me and my audience of degenerates, so I want to keep it pretty basic.

01:30:12.000 Yeah, I mean, it would seem to be sound logic that, you know, you're talking about a kid who just five minutes ago was wiping his nasal scrapings on the couch, that now all of a sudden you're letting him determine his life's...

01:30:26.000 Yeah, his life's sexual course.

01:30:29.000 Let me ask you, because you just touched on something that I think confuses a lot of people.

01:30:32.000 Was gender a medical? 0.98

01:30:34.000 Was it a scientific term?

01:30:36.000 Was it different from sex?

01:30:38.000 What's the wordplay?

01:30:39.000 Because now they're going, well, no, it's not the same.

01:30:40.000 It's sex and gender are two very different things, and so it's hate speech of you to mislabel them.

01:30:47.000 In the medical community, has it always been standard science that, well, sex and gender are different?

01:30:53.000 Well, that is a semantic argument, you could say.

01:30:56.000 We always talked about the sex of a child.

01:30:58.000 We didn't talk about the gender of a child.

01:31:00.000 That's much more of a kind of social construct.

01:31:03.000 Most of the transgender people that, you know, the medical profession...

01:31:07.000 Well, hold on, because that's important, because you just said kind of a social construct.

01:31:10.000 So, do you mean it's a social construct by, I guess, sort of progressives who want to say they're different, but in the medical community, did they recognize the social construct of gender as different from sex, or is that gender studies, humanity studies?

01:31:10.000 Yeah.

01:31:24.000 My question, I guess, is does that stem from science and medicine or a hippie drum circle?

01:31:31.000 It's not technically a medical term.

01:31:34.000 Actually, very few people who are transgendered are transsexual.

01:31:38.000 A very small group out of that really goes to become transsexual.

01:31:44.000 And of the transsexuals, they don't always go through the full transition. 0.99

01:31:49.000 Well, what separates them from a transvestite, then? 1.00

01:31:52.000 Because you used to have transsexuals, people who did the operation, and then transvestites, like Hoover, people who dressed up like women. 0.98

01:31:57.000 Right, exactly.

01:31:57.000 Rocky Horror Picture Show.

01:31:58.000 So what's the difference, then, if the transgender, a majority of them don't do the operation, is the difference between a transgender and a transvestite just some estrogen at that point?

01:32:07.000 How is it defined, I guess, medically?

01:32:09.000 Well, I guess technically, the way they want to cast a pretty big net, where you could actually, if you're a transvestite, you could consider yourself transgendered.

01:32:17.000 So if you put the dress on, Stephen, you could be transgendered.

01:32:19.000 Well, I have done that, and it puts the lotion on its skin.

01:32:22.000 I know people will give you flack for saying transgendered.

01:32:25.000 They'll say it's not an adjective, it's a noun, and you could be put in prison for two years in Canada for that.

01:32:32.000 What do you say to those people?

01:32:34.000 Well, I can share some of the experiences.

01:32:35.000 I don't use any names, obviously, but I've had a number of patients who weren't part of the transgender movement in high school, and actually they got a lot of attention for it.

01:32:44.000 It seemed like It was a lot of attention-seeking when I looked at the family dynamics and what these kids had gone through in their lifetime.

01:32:52.000 When they hit 16 or 17, they kind of abandoned it.

01:32:56.000 They maybe had a late puberty, and then they decided they weren't going to be that way anymore.

01:33:02.000 It was clearly a decision.

01:33:04.000 They weren't biologically driven to the conclusion of that.

01:33:11.000 I knew a lot of girls who did that with claiming bisexual in high school. 1.00

01:33:14.000 There was a trend.

01:33:15.000 And the rule was, I always said, if a girl claims she's bisexual in high school, she's trying to be cool.

01:33:20.000 If a guy claims, he's gay.

01:33:23.000 That's always been my experience.

01:33:25.000 Affirmation.

01:33:26.000 A lot of affirmation in schools now for being different.

01:33:30.000 And, you know, unfortunately, kids aren't always getting all the attention they need.

01:33:34.000 And most of the attention you get in school is negative.

01:33:36.000 You know, people are picked on.

01:33:38.000 They're bullied.

01:33:39.000 You know what it's like to go to middle school and high school.

01:33:41.000 If you have something that makes you special and insulates you from criticism and makes you, you know, somehow virtuous, kids will buy into that, of course.

01:33:51.000 You know, they're seeking approval.

01:33:52.000 Yeah.

01:33:53.000 And this is huge approval.

01:33:55.000 Yeah, it is.

01:33:56.000 Right now, it's a free hall pass.

01:33:58.000 No one can bully you.

01:33:59.000 No one can make fun of you.

01:34:00.000 You know, they can make fun of you for buck teeth.

01:34:01.000 They can make fun of you for ginger hair.

01:34:03.000 But once you say, I'm on estrogen, it's like, okay, hands off the kid on estrogen because you are going to get expelled in a nightly news segment.

01:34:11.000 Dr.

01:34:12.000 Phyllis Boniface, thank you so much for being with us.

01:34:15.000 We appreciate it.

01:34:16.000 We'll have to have you back on soon to talk about this because it's constantly developing.

01:34:20.000 I have to go to a break.

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01:36:04.000 What's going on?

01:36:06.000 Uh...

01:36:07.000 It's...

01:36:08.000 We've got a call.

01:36:09.000 It's...

01:36:10.000 It's, um...

01:36:11.000 Well...

01:36:11.000 What's happening?

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01:36:13.000 Hey! 0.99

01:36:13.000 Hey, hey, what's up? 0.99

01:36:15.000 What's going on?

01:36:16.000 Hey, you there?

01:36:18.000 Dean?

01:36:19.000 Me?

01:36:19.000 Yeah, Dean.

01:36:20.000 What's up?

01:36:20.000 Yeah, no, you called me.

01:36:22.000 Bro, bro, bro, wait, wait, what's up?

01:36:23.000 Go to the gym right now.

01:36:24.000 Ready to get a big pump on?

01:36:25.000 Let's do it.

01:36:26.000 I don't...

01:36:27.000 I'm not into that kind of thing.

01:36:29.000 Tell them we're doing a show.

01:36:30.000 We're doing a show right now.

01:36:32.000 If we can, uh...

01:36:33.000 I'll text you later.

01:36:33.000 I'll text you.

01:36:34.000 Can I text you later?

01:36:36.000 Text you back.

01:36:36.000 Promise.

01:36:37.000 Right back.

01:36:38.000 Just, Jared, hang on.

01:36:39.000 We gotta do the show.

01:36:40.000 Tell them to call back.

01:36:41.000 Call back.

01:36:42.000 Alright, I'll call you back.

01:36:45.000 What?

01:36:48.000 Why does he keep calling in on the show?

01:36:50.000 I should have changed the settings so that he can't call in.

01:36:52.000 People shouldn't be allowed to call in while we're live.

01:36:55.000 Should I tell him he's Dean Cain?

01:36:58.000 Well, you're closer with him than I am, so I'll let you handle it.

01:37:01.000 I have no problem.

01:37:02.000 He's more than welcome if we book him in advance, but obviously this is...

01:37:05.000 I'm sorry.

01:37:06.000 So we have Chad with AIDS on, and he is going to talk to us not only about the Captain America gay controversy from a gay perspective who's logical, but also the pup play. 0.60

01:37:16.000 Fill us in.

01:37:17.000 He had some thoughts on Dr.

01:37:19.000 Boniface.

01:37:19.000 He sent me some messages regarding the interview.

01:37:21.000 So, listen, everyone is welcome to come on the program.

01:37:24.000 Not many people who disagree with us are willing to come on the program.

01:37:27.000 And he's a nice, reasonable guy.

01:37:28.000 I wonder if he still has a mustache.

01:37:30.000 I wonder if he still has that.

01:37:31.000 The mustache was a good look.

01:37:32.000 It was a good look, the mustache.

01:37:33.000 Not many gingers can pull off the mustache. 1.00

01:37:35.000 Okay, are we ready to do the Katie Couric?

01:37:36.000 We are.

01:37:37.000 Okay, so I was talking about this earlier and we didn't get to do the rebuttal because we did the feminist issue. 1.00

01:37:41.000 So Katie Couric, we wrote about it earlier this week.

01:37:44.000 Just to recap, she said she was releasing this...

01:37:47.000 It was a gun documentary and it was balanced.

01:37:50.000 And anyways, this is the clip from her with Matt Blatantly Homosexual Lauer earlier in the week that I covered and I called BS. And then I was vindicated.

01:37:59.000 Isn't that nice?

01:38:00.000 Let's roll that first clip. 1.00

01:38:02.000 There's a very common expression out there that says the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

01:38:10.000 And yet they asked their daughter's boyfriend, who was there, if he had had a gun at the time, would it have made a difference?

01:38:17.000 I thought that was one of the most impactful moments of the film.

01:38:21.000 One of the first things they asked him, because he had a concealed carry permit, but because he traveled from Texas to Colorado to visit Jesse, yeah, he didn't have his gun.

01:38:30.000 One of the first things they asked is, would it have made a difference if you had had your gun?

01:38:35.000 And he said, absolutely not.

01:38:38.000 There was so much chaos.

01:38:39.000 They were trapped.

01:38:40.000 More innocent people would have died.

01:38:43.000 Okay, so I saw that and I wrote, hold on a second.

01:38:47.000 Before any of the controversies following it, which we'll get to, you have to understand, in my little brain, I see this on Monday.

01:38:53.000 Was it Monday?

01:38:53.000 I think it was Monday.

01:38:54.000 I think so.

01:38:55.000 And I'm going, ooh.

01:38:56.000 So she interviewed a firearm owner.

01:38:58.000 Now, as someone who owns firearms, and not Gajer, and many people, nearly all my friends do, how many, you'll never know.

01:39:04.000 What calibers?

01:39:05.000 Well...

01:39:06.000 Your guess is as good as mine.

01:39:07.000 I'm sitting there going, well, hold on a second.

01:39:08.000 She asked a firearm owner, who she said was a concealed carry holder, or a carry holder, if he thought he would have been better in Colorado with a firearm.

01:39:17.000 He said no, more innocent people would have died.

01:39:20.000 What is that guy saying? 0.94

01:39:21.000 That's a firearm owner saying, I am so woefully inept at wielding my firearm.

01:39:26.000 No one should.

01:39:27.000 I wouldn't trust myself.

01:39:28.000 No one should trust me with my firearm.

01:39:30.000 I don't know a single firearm owner, not one, not one who would answer the question that way.

01:39:35.000 Every single one would say, well, you know what?

01:39:37.000 Either they'd say, yes, I would feel safer, or they'd say, you know what?

01:39:40.000 I don't know.

01:39:41.000 But it would have changed the odds.

01:39:43.000 Not a single legitimate firearm owner would have said, no, I shouldn't have.

01:39:47.000 I have a carry permit, but I shouldn't be trusted. 0.62

01:39:49.000 I would kill more innocent people. 1.00

01:39:50.000 So I wrote about that, and I said, I think there's some BS here, and there's some manipulation going on.

01:39:55.000 Well, lo and behold, I think it was yesterday, I think it was yesterday, it comes out that she has deliberately misled the public with her editing.

01:40:04.000 So let's roll what you will see in her unbiased documentary first, and then what actually happened.

01:40:10.000 Roll clip.

01:40:12.000 Let me ask you another question.

01:40:13.000 If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from purchasing a gun?

01:40:24.000 Dramatic silence.

01:40:29.000 Oh, dramatic music.

01:40:31.000 They can't!

01:40:32.000 Oh my word, they can't prevent terrorists from getting guns.

01:40:35.000 Remember, this is unbiased reporting.

01:40:36.000 This is Katie Couric.

01:40:38.000 It's both sides of the gun control issue.

01:40:42.000 Well, it just so happens we have the audio of the actual question and the response.

01:40:47.000 A little bit different.

01:40:48.000 See if you can spot them.

01:40:49.000 Jared, roll clip.

01:40:52.000 If there are no background checks, how do you prevent...

01:40:55.000 I know how you all are going to answer this, but I'm asking anyway.

01:40:58.000 If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say, a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?

01:41:10.000 Well...

01:41:11.000 One, if you're not in jail, you should still have your basic rights.

01:41:17.000 So if you're a terrorist or a felon?

01:41:20.000 If you're a felon and you've done your time, you should have your rights.

01:41:24.000 Well, the fact is we do have statutes.

01:41:27.000 There you go.

01:41:28.000 And he goes in to answer her question.

01:41:30.000 Now, I want to issue a warning here.

01:41:33.000 I've always said, listen, the term selectively edit, I don't use.

01:41:37.000 Anything that's any film, any video you've ever seen is selectively edited.

01:41:40.000 Editing is a process of selecting what makes the cut. 1.00

01:41:43.000 So that's stupid. 0.99

01:41:44.000 Okay? 0.99

01:41:45.000 And we've edited plenty of videos that we've put online.

01:41:48.000 Now, I'm a firm believer that context over content matters.

01:41:51.000 I'm a comedian.

01:41:52.000 I'm not a journalist.

01:41:53.000 I've told people, take it as entertainment.

01:41:55.000 That being said, and not get Jared's word, we have never, ever edited somebody out of context to make it look like their response was the exact opposite of their response.

01:42:05.000 In fact, we've gone out of our way to make sure it was very clear, oftentimes.

01:42:08.000 Yes, it was very clear.

01:42:10.000 The context was clear, the answer was clear.

01:42:12.000 As a matter of fact, when you first started working with me, a couple of times, I remember you said, like, oh, this is funny.

01:42:16.000 And I said, well, you know what?

01:42:18.000 Yeah, but that's not exactly what he said.

01:42:20.000 We don't want to be unfair. 0.99

01:42:23.000 And by the way, we still have made friends with quite a few people who saw themselves in the videos going, man, you could have really made me look stupid. 0.96

01:42:28.000 I appreciate you not doing that. 0.93

01:42:30.000 Several people.

01:42:30.000 So that is important.

01:42:32.000 So in this case, just like Michael Moore with Roger and me, that was his first film, right?

01:42:35.000 The head of GM. The entire film was predicated on the idea that he never got an interview.

01:42:43.000 With the guy he was seeking.

01:42:44.000 Roger, gosh.

01:42:46.000 One of those typical white guy names. 0.93

01:42:48.000 It'll lose me.

01:42:48.000 Anyways, the head of GM. The guy gave him an interview and it was very nice.

01:42:51.000 It wasn't included in the film and the whole film was made as though he didn't get an interview.

01:42:54.000 Katie Couric says this is balanced, both sides of the gun issue.

01:42:58.000 And she says, how do you stop a terrorist from getting a gun?

01:43:02.000 And the clip shows silence, with people being unable to answer, followed by dramatic, scary music.

01:43:07.000 It's like a sketch.

01:43:09.000 It's like a fear-mongering sketch that we'd put in a commercial.

01:43:11.000 A reality show or something, even.

01:43:12.000 When the real question was...

01:43:14.000 By the way, her question was longer.

01:43:15.000 The context was changed.

01:43:17.000 And they provided answers.

01:43:18.000 They provided answers as far as their opinion.

01:43:20.000 Listen, unless you are in...

01:43:22.000 If you've done your time, you should have your basic human rights.

01:43:25.000 And then they go into the statutes and how it would be prevented.

01:43:30.000 Now, without the Internet...

01:43:32.000 I think this came from, was it The Federalist?

01:43:38.000 I can't compare it.

01:43:39.000 We have it up at letterwithcrowder.com, and credit to the people who got the audio.

01:43:42.000 Without the internet, Katie Kirk did this a lot.

01:43:46.000 Matt Blayton, homosexual hour, did it a lot. 0.99

01:43:48.000 They go up and they say this kind of stuff, and they tell you it's unbiased, and it's balanced, and guess what?

01:43:53.000 Before the internet, no one was able to fact check them.

01:43:55.000 This is what I'm talking about when I say that by default, anyone who watches Good Morning America, anyone who watches the Today Show, Anyone who watches any programming outside of very, very limited programming, they're getting bombarded with this, and it's a liberal bias of omission, what they don't cover.

01:44:14.000 People think because Katie Couric isn't going out there saying, hey, hey, ho, ho, George Bush has got to go, that somehow she's straight down the middle.

01:44:20.000 No.

01:44:23.000 And these people are furious.

01:44:24.000 You know the reason they hate bloggers?

01:44:26.000 You know the reason they hate online entertainment?

01:44:28.000 Is because they can get fact-checked.

01:44:30.000 Brian Williams.

01:44:31.000 Dan Rather.

01:44:33.000 Dan Rather.

01:44:36.000 Katie Couric.

01:44:38.000 Without the kind of content that we do...

01:44:42.000 No one would have ever been able to call her on it.

01:44:44.000 And you know what?

01:44:44.000 That's what happened with Michael Moore.

01:44:45.000 Michael Moore would not have become the giant gelatinous monster that he is today if people were as efficient on the internet.

01:44:51.000 If YouTube was really around and kicking when he made Bowling for Columbine.

01:44:55.000 I remember there were some movies like Michael Moore is a Big Fat Liar.

01:44:58.000 And I think I brought it into a film class.

01:45:02.000 Something about Michael Moore was made by one of my friends, gosh, Mike Wilson.

01:45:08.000 Anyway, there was a documentary out there.

01:45:10.000 Great, you should watch it.

01:45:11.000 And I gave it to my teacher when he showed the Michael Moore Fahrenheit 9-11 and said, you know what, you should probably show this to be balanced.

01:45:17.000 And only one professor, I think, throughout all of my college history did do that.

01:45:22.000 So that's what you had to do.

01:45:23.000 You had to send a physical DVD, kind of like, you know, the Jerky Boys or that kind of stuff, back when, you know, viral meant VHSs and cassette tapes and CDs.

01:45:31.000 You had to do it and you didn't have the giant megaphone that someone like a Katie Couric or Michael Moore has.

01:45:35.000 Well, now that's been equalized and people like Katie Couric hate it. 1.00

01:45:40.000 I try and give as much leeway as possible.

01:45:44.000 Jon Stewart.

01:45:45.000 They're editing it to make it funny.

01:45:47.000 Nothing he says is even remotely accurate.

01:45:49.000 I'm a comedian.

01:45:50.000 What we do is far more accurate than anything on The Daily Show.

01:45:52.000 I promise you, we do not edit things to mislead you.

01:45:58.000 But it's made for entertainment.

01:46:00.000 Katie Couric lied. 0.71

01:46:02.000 Lied. 0.99

01:46:03.000 And if it weren't for this, she would have gone on down the trail, and everyone would have gone along with it and been complicit.

01:46:07.000 Oh, this is great.

01:46:08.000 Isn't it great that we have a balanced viewpoint of firearms?

01:46:11.000 What is it really pushing?

01:46:13.000 Gun control, registers, mental health barometers, where basically you take a Xanax, well, no, now you can't buy a firearm.

01:46:21.000 It is a total and absolute gun grab.

01:46:23.000 People say, do you think Hollywood wants to take your guns away?

01:46:24.000 Yes.

01:46:25.000 Yes, they do.

01:46:25.000 They absolutely do.

01:46:27.000 Security guards for them, they want to take yours away.

01:46:31.000 And her Botox is horrible.

01:46:33.000 Katie Couric should just allow herself to age gracefully. 1.00

01:46:38.000 I know you're trying to go for the Valley Girl thing, but it's embarrassing.

01:46:41.000 You're trying to match the face to the intellect, but my God, woman, have some self-respect. 0.69

01:46:47.000 Your forehead walked into the room six minutes before you did.

01:46:51.000 I don't like her.

01:46:52.000 What's Chad coming up next?

01:46:53.000 Chad coming up next.

01:46:54.000 Coming up next, Chad with AIDS.

01:46:55.000 Stay tuned.

01:46:56.000 Whoa, Jared, what are you doing? 0.99

01:47:11.000 Shoot bad guys. 0.98

01:47:12.000 With what? 1.00

01:47:13.000 AR-15.

01:47:14.000 Where'd you get it?

01:47:15.000 AR-15.com.

01:47:16.000 Oh, there's another one.

01:47:17.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:47:17.000 You got him. 0.99

01:47:18.000 Thank God for AR-15.com.

01:47:18.000 Yeah.

01:47:21.000 They have AR-15 and accessories for sale and the best advice there is on the web.

01:47:25.000 Oh no, there's another one.

01:47:26.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:47:27.000 You got him.

01:47:28.000 Yeah.

01:47:29.000 AR-15.

01:47:29.000 With your what?

01:47:30.000 From where?

01:47:31.000 AR-15.com.

01:47:32.000 That's the best place to go, and that's the takeaway, because this commercial's about to stop!

01:47:35.000 For Breaking Rills and Outerwood Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson.

01:47:54.000 In the recent wake of the NFL's Redskins controversy for the team name being accused of ethnic insensitivity, minor pro sports teams have as well been placed under a microscope, and the head of the WLBTA, the head of the B Division Women's Basketball League, has been forced to make amends.

01:48:18.000 We take you now to his press conference in Svesha.

01:48:21.000 We have realized that names we thought were once acceptable and appropriate are now simply out of date, bordering on offensive, and will no longer be used in this league.

01:48:34.000 Some of the offenders for which we would like to publicly announce their removal from the league, effective immediately, and our sincere apologies, are the Birmingham Honkies, the Silicon Valley Slanty Eyes, the Kalamazoo Jew Bags, oh, that sounds worse out loud when I say it like that, the Baltimore Bull Dykes, the Syracuse Sickle Cells, and, of course, the Columbus F***s. 1.00

01:48:58.000 Thank you.

01:48:58.000 Well, times are certainly changing.

01:49:01.000 I'll keep you abreast as this story unfolds for allowing me to do the things that I want to do.

01:49:15.000 I ain't got a thing to prove to you I ain't gonna wear the clothes that you're mine I don't give a hoot about what you think Everyone likes to dance to a happy song I ain't got a thing to prove to you

01:49:35.000 I ain't got a thing to prove to you

01:50:05.000 I ain't got a thing to prove to you I ain't gonna wear the clothes that you're mine 0.91

01:50:34.000 I don't give a hoot about what you think Everyone likes to dance to a happy song Glad to be back.

01:50:42.000 You're good?

01:50:44.000 Yeah, I'm good.

01:50:46.000 Okay.

01:50:47.000 It's an antibiotic.

01:50:48.000 I think it just helps a lot.

01:50:50.000 For those listening, not get Jared had an incident between the commercial break.

01:50:54.000 Hopefully he's okay.

01:50:56.000 You feeling okay?

01:50:57.000 A little busy.

01:50:59.000 Well, drink some water or something.

01:51:01.000 I got an energy drink.

01:51:03.000 No.

01:51:03.000 Skittles?

01:51:04.000 Okay.

01:51:05.000 Well, you have to fade out the music.

01:51:05.000 All right.

01:51:07.000 Is he ready?

01:51:07.000 We have our next guest.

01:51:08.000 Is he ready to go?

01:51:09.000 He is ready to go.

01:51:09.000 Do we have him on?

01:51:11.000 Oh, we have an intro song.

01:51:11.000 Do we have an intro song?

01:51:13.000 Okay.

01:51:14.000 Well, we do want to introduce you.

01:51:15.000 He's been on the show.

01:51:16.000 He talked about the AIDS disclosure laws before.

01:51:16.000 People loved him.

01:51:19.000 People thought it was incredibly informative.

01:51:20.000 We wanted to have him back.

01:51:22.000 So we do.

01:51:23.000 Chad with AIDS is here.

01:51:23.000 We have him.

01:51:25.000 Be sure that you see that this is not HIV. But full-blown AIDS. Not HIV, but really full-blown AIDS. I'm sorry, I wish it was something less serious.

01:51:45.000 But it ain't.

01:51:46.000 Chad, thank you for being with us, sir.

01:51:50.000 Oh, good lord.

01:51:51.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:51:51.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 0.71

01:51:52.000 We were not expecting this.

01:51:53.000 What is this?

01:51:54.000 You got rid of the mustache is what offends me the most. 0.99

01:51:58.000 This is what happens when you gay all the things. 1.00

01:52:01.000 When you gay all the things. 1.00

01:52:03.000 Well, now, Jared, you went to a wide shot. 0.79

01:52:05.000 We can see that it's not a full rainbow flag.

01:52:06.000 He didn't have the full rainbow.

01:52:07.000 He didn't go all the way.

01:52:08.000 He's not all the way in.

01:52:09.000 This is true.

01:52:09.000 Okay, so full disclosure, Chad has been on the program.

01:52:12.000 He is of the gay persuasion. 0.99

01:52:14.000 I don't think I'm outing anything there.

01:52:15.000 And you wanted to talk about the trans issue.

01:52:18.000 And we had Dr. 0.67

01:52:19.000 Boniface on, so we have a few opinions on that.

01:52:21.000 But the big controversy this week is Captain America. 0.62

01:52:23.000 They want to make him gay.

01:52:25.000 Now as a gay American, what were your opinions on that?

01:52:32.000 It brings me back to the summer of 1997, maybe?

01:52:38.000 When Ellen came out bravely, and it was the most courageous thing in the world.

01:52:41.000 Yes, it was.

01:52:43.000 And all of the gays that I knew in real life and on the internet and all the gay magazines complained because her show was too gay. 0.96

01:52:52.000 I don't know if you remember that, but she had like gay ice and everything was gay, gay, gay. 0.97

01:52:58.000 Every episode was gay, gay, gay. 0.83

01:52:59.000 And gave you were mad about it? 0.93

01:53:00.000 Yeah, they were like, why can't it just be a regular show with a gay person? 0.95

01:53:04.000 Or she happens to be gay, yeah. 0.65

01:53:06.000 Yeah, why does it have to be gay every episode? 0.99

01:53:08.000 And then now...

01:53:09.000 And did you count yourself amongst them?

01:53:11.000 Transition.

01:53:12.000 Oh, no, I loved Ellen. 0.99

01:53:13.000 Okay.

01:53:14.000 And I remember I was a hardcore liberal, and so I was like, we need more gay. 0.96

01:53:22.000 Okay.

01:53:23.000 To be fair, she can be funny.

01:53:24.000 She's funny.

01:53:25.000 To be fair, Ellen DeGeneres is funny. 0.97

01:53:26.000 She can be very funny.

01:53:27.000 I've always thought that...

01:53:28.000 She can be very funny.

01:53:29.000 Yeah, her stand-up was pretty funny, too.

01:53:31.000 I've heard through the grapevine, people have worked with her.

01:53:32.000 If you like what you kind of see, the kind of schtick, that's great that she's...

01:53:36.000 Maybe not necessarily what you get behind the camera, but she's very funny.

01:53:40.000 Yeah.

01:53:41.000 Okay.

01:53:41.000 But no, the way I reacted to it is it's amazing what's happened to the gay community when it turned into the LGBTQIA community.

01:53:52.000 AAIP, silent F, get it right. 0.97

01:53:54.000 Exactly.

01:53:55.000 I apologize.

01:53:56.000 I've triggered some people.

01:53:57.000 Yes, of course you have.

01:54:00.000 But half of it is the gay left is entirely progressive now, and so all they care about is, you know, oh look, there's something that everyone loves, let's take it. 0.97

01:54:11.000 A big part of it's just that.

01:54:13.000 But another part of it is, honestly, and trigger warning here, the reality is everybody in society wants to make the straight guy happy.

01:54:26.000 That's Mike, sorry, Matt, the guy you had on earlier.

01:54:29.000 Matt Matreon, yes, the fighter.

01:54:31.000 Yeah, super masculine, natural, happy, you know, nice guy who punches people in the face for a living.

01:54:36.000 He does. 1.00

01:54:38.000 Look at everybody, from feminists to gay men to trannies to everybody, lesbians. 1.00

01:54:47.000 Everyone's goal is either to get a straight man to have sex with them or to be like a straight man or to get their approval. 1.00

01:54:55.000 They want Captain America to be gay because he's the most... 0.99

01:55:00.000 Visual idea of American masculinity. 0.94

01:55:05.000 So you're turning it on its head and saying it's almost gays don't realize they're playing into effectively a byproduct of patriarchy. 0.69

01:55:11.000 Yes, it's all patriarchy.

01:55:12.000 I mean, look, I made a joke today that apparently the end goal of all trans men is to look like John Goodman. 0.89

01:55:19.000 It's true. 0.99

01:55:21.000 They're all obese men with neckbeards. 0.99

01:55:24.000 I don't understand the lesbian appeal, but think about it. 0.99

01:55:28.000 Chaz Bono.

01:55:30.000 Yeah, women seem to be doing nothing but mimicking masculinity, and men seem to be mimicking female behavior to get straight guy attention. 0.95

01:55:42.000 Well, what's funny, feminists accept it. 1.00

01:55:43.000 They're mimicking a stereotype of women, like Bruce Jenner, right, Caitlyn Jenner. 0.98

01:55:47.000 It's just put in some boobs and makeup. 1.00

01:55:49.000 And in any other situation on the cover of Cosmopolitan or Elle or whatever it is, they would say, these are unrealistic standards of beauty.

01:55:55.000 Look at the Photoshop on the hips and the shoulders. 0.99

01:55:57.000 But when he has a penis, however... 1.00

01:55:59.000 It's stunning and beautiful. 1.00

01:56:01.000 It's gorgeous.

01:56:02.000 It's wonderful.

01:56:03.000 Yeah.

01:56:03.000 Right.

01:56:04.000 That's got to be tough for you as a reasonable gay guy right now.

01:56:07.000 The LGBT, T is tossed on, the trans thing. 0.97

01:56:11.000 I've spoken with a lot of gay people who say, that is not me.

01:56:15.000 No.

01:56:17.000 You know, and from, I don't know, 1940 until 2015, most of us were just kind of cool with it.

01:56:24.000 We were like, you know what?

01:56:25.000 You go do your thing, and you're on Mari Pulpich, and it's a big...

01:56:30.000 But we really didn't care.

01:56:32.000 Transgender people?

01:56:33.000 Yeah, I mean, well, people like...

01:56:34.000 In the 1940s, there was a very famous...

01:56:38.000 I can't remember her name right now, but she transitioned.

01:56:41.000 She was a soldier, and she transitioned overseas, came over.

01:56:44.000 It was kind of a stunning thing, and then in the 1960s, they started getting...

01:56:53.000 Well, come on.

01:56:58.000 They think they're blending in.

01:56:59.000 Most of us can spot them.

01:57:01.000 Well, yeah, but their goal was to blend in to society.

01:57:06.000 Right.

01:57:09.000 They seem to have the identity of, I am a transgender person. 0.98

01:57:13.000 And it's getting harder and harder to put up with their nonsense. 0.97

01:57:13.000 Right. 0.97

01:57:18.000 And the unfortunate thing, we were talking about this with the Captain America video we released.

01:57:18.000 I'm sorry.

01:57:18.000 It is.

01:57:21.000 A few years ago, we could have never done it.

01:57:23.000 Everyone would have said, well, this is homophobic.

01:57:24.000 How dare you?

01:57:25.000 And they would have feigned offense.

01:57:27.000 But now...

01:57:29.000 You see people, I'm afraid I can go too far. 0.97

01:57:30.000 People are not only okay with it because they're tired of the crap, but then people are going, alright, you know what? 0.99

01:57:35.000 I'm sick and tired of all gay stuff now. 1.00

01:57:38.000 It's like food that's too rich. 0.99

01:57:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:40.000 So, okay, I want to keep you on and we'll talk more about that after the break because I wanted to talk about pup play.

01:57:46.000 You homos know all about that. 1.00

01:57:47.000 I assume all of you are into it. 0.86

01:57:49.000 That's what the heads at ThinkProgress told me.

01:57:51.000 And let's get into it.

01:57:53.000 Leather dog choke collars. 0.86

01:57:55.000 Let's just break down and gay all the things and pup play all the things. 1.00

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01:59:27.000 I give the choice to you.

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01:59:56.000 For those asking, Not Gay Jared is fine. 0.87

01:59:56.000 Glad to be back. 0.87

01:59:58.000 He's fine now.

01:59:59.000 And we have our guest back with us, Chad.

01:59:59.000 We're good.

02:00:02.000 Chad with the HIV, with the AIDS. Not that we pigeonhole guests, but we pigeonhole guests.

02:00:08.000 And he's going full kamikaze pilot and gang all the things right now.

02:00:12.000 So, did you listen to the Dr.

02:00:14.000 Boniface interview?

02:00:15.000 I did.

02:00:16.000 Yes.

02:00:16.000 Did anything stick out?

02:00:17.000 Because I know you had some opinions and questions.

02:00:19.000 Did anything stick out at you in there specifically?

02:00:23.000 Yeah, it's fascinating that...

02:00:27.000 We were told by people like Zach Ford, who is the ThinkProgress guy you were mentioning earlier with the pup play. 0.86

02:00:35.000 He's constantly telling us that if we don't affirm transgender children, that they're going to kill themselves.

02:00:40.000 That this experience of being transgender, which I experienced myself as a child, is so distressing that you cannot function unless you have medically necessary treatment. 1.00

02:00:54.000 But it's not a psychological disorder.

02:00:56.000 They're very careful that it's not a mental illness.

02:00:58.000 It's not a psychological disorder.

02:00:59.000 But it's something that causes so much stress.

02:01:02.000 You're on the brink of suicide.

02:01:04.000 You can't be happy until you get hormone therapy and surgery and all kinds of things.

02:01:08.000 Isn't that what bipolar is like?

02:01:11.000 Isn't that what anxiety disorders are like?

02:01:14.000 And to me, if we can – I had someone arguing with me that you can take a brain scan of a five-year-old child.

02:01:14.000 Right.

02:01:21.000 You can tell that they're transgender because the girl's brain looks like a male's brain or you can see hormone levels. 0.81

02:01:28.000 Well, if that's the case, then it goes from being an identity choice.

02:01:32.000 I identify as a pan-gender fairy or whatever.

02:01:37.000 I'm going to get letters, but yes.

02:01:40.000 It turns into a medical condition that we can verify.

02:01:45.000 If we can see a five-year-old child has a hormone disorder that is going to be so distressing that they have to devote their entire life to mimicking the other gender just to kind of satisfy it and they may kill themselves, then we have a medical obligation to cure that with hormone therapy. 0.95

02:02:01.000 And the cure itself is going to be...

02:02:07.000 How do transgender activists realize the road they're going down by demanding scientific proof? 0.99

02:02:12.000 Well, it's funny because they say they don't want it to be disorder, so they call it dysphoria, which means they're essentially so unhappy that treatment is necessary, but that doesn't help with the happiness.

02:02:20.000 And nowhere else would there be any kind of a clinical issue that causes so much distress and unhappiness that wouldn't be classified as a disorder, only with the transgenderism. 1.00

02:02:31.000 And we've spoken with other psychiatrists off air who don't want to be on the program because they're afraid of the gay shtapa who have said the most disturbed people they've had to treat have been transgenders. 0.92

02:02:41.000 And they've talked about that.

02:02:42.000 And we've had people on the show, several, not Gay Jared knows, we've had stalking issues.

02:02:47.000 We've had what?

02:02:47.000 Several.

02:02:48.000 We've had three or four transgenders on the show. 0.97

02:02:50.000 Gosh, they do some weird stuff.

02:02:51.000 And Theron Meyer is great.

02:02:53.000 Theron Meyer's been great.

02:02:54.000 We've had no issues.

02:02:55.000 But every single other one...

02:02:57.000 Has been a real issue.

02:02:59.000 And we've had more books for the show than we haven't had on the show, remember?

02:03:02.000 I mean, I'm talking stuff like actually report it to the authorities.

02:03:06.000 And Theron Meyers has been great, and we definitely want to have Theron back on.

02:03:09.000 And I've talked about my experience.

02:03:09.000 Oh, yeah.

02:03:12.000 When I was a kid, I wanted to be a girl.

02:03:15.000 And all the way up into my 20s, I actually pursued transgender therapy.

02:03:20.000 Did you do the hormone replacement therapy?

02:03:22.000 No, I never got that far because it was too expensive at the time.

02:03:25.000 This was in the early 2000s before it started to be part of health insurance.

02:03:29.000 So honestly, that's the reason why I gave up was because I couldn't afford it.

02:03:33.000 And you're glad you did?

02:03:34.000 Yeah, I'm glad I did now.

02:03:35.000 I had good therapists that helped me understand my need for masculine approval, my need to understand masculinity, the fact that I was trying to be female as a desperate attempt to get that.

02:03:49.000 And what's strange is that I have the exact same experience as every other transgender person going from a child on through.

02:03:56.000 But when I explain this to people, and I say, technically I'm a transgender person by the definition, because I had that experience.

02:04:03.000 But I got past it.

02:04:05.000 I healed.

02:04:06.000 I don't know if you can call it a cure, but I psychologically got better where I'm perfectly comfortable with my...

02:04:10.000 You say the masculine approval.

02:04:11.000 I don't want to get too personal.

02:04:12.000 Did you have issues with a male figure, father relationship?

02:04:16.000 No, my father was fantastic, but I struggled as a child to connect with other boys.

02:04:23.000 If I could define my entire childhood, it was, how do I get boys to like me?

02:04:28.000 Because I just couldn't figure it out.

02:04:30.000 If you look on Twitter, they're a controversial course, but if you're looking at people like...

02:04:36.000 Mike Cernovich of Guerrilla Mindset or Nick Hagrid of Masculinity Rising or Alexander Cortez or the Dark Triad Man, Ivan Throne.

02:04:45.000 Those guys who I respect a great deal, they are pushing this idea of encouraging masculinity in boys and men.

02:04:54.000 In a very visceral way, a very direct way that's incredibly controversial to the outside world.

02:05:00.000 But they have a huge following.

02:05:02.000 Some of those guys are wrong, though.

02:05:04.000 Not all of them, but some of them.

02:05:05.000 I mean, you know, I talk about that with this.

02:05:06.000 Then you get into the realm of this false idea of machismo.

02:05:10.000 And, you know, you can be a nerd, you can be physically weak, and you can be a great man, and people can flourish under your leadership.

02:05:15.000 And some of them, that's why I don't say the Mananist movement, because a lot of it can be like the transgender movement.

02:05:20.000 It becomes very surface-oriented, and a lot of these people are very...

02:05:24.000 Not all of them.

02:05:25.000 You've named some great names there.

02:05:26.000 But I've seen some of them, we've had them now to be on the show, who are vapid.

02:05:29.000 Oh, I understand.

02:05:30.000 In the sense that it's like, I've made money.

02:05:32.000 I bang chicks. 1.00

02:05:33.000 That doesn't make you a man at all.

02:05:34.000 And if you're talking about teaching young men right from wrong, moral absolutes, what a man should be, what a father does, great.

02:05:41.000 But a lot of men in this don't do that. 0.99

02:05:42.000 You know, there's a whole pick-up game where they just want to have sex with so many women. 1.00

02:05:45.000 And the reason I bring him up is because there's a need for understanding what masculinity is in a way that's not shameful.

02:05:45.000 Always.

02:05:54.000 I devoted my entire life just trying to understand what masculinity means.

02:05:59.000 But with the transgender thing, transgender people now, whenever I tell them this, I'm like, I have the exact same experience you did, but this is where I am.

02:06:07.000 They say, oh, you weren't really transgendered.

02:06:09.000 You were a non-conforming, non-gender identity. 1.00

02:06:13.000 They make up a new term.

02:06:15.000 They dismiss my complete experience because, from their perspective, if a four-year-old girl says I'm a boy, she's a boy.

02:06:23.000 That's what the White House...

02:06:27.000 Guidelines Day.

02:06:28.000 Well, there's a great book.

02:06:29.000 I don't know if you've read them.

02:06:30.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, I have.

02:06:31.000 There's a great book called Wild at Heart.

02:06:32.000 Was it John Eldridge?

02:06:33.000 I know it's a Christian book, so people don't like hearing it, but this is something I read when I was a kid.

02:06:37.000 It was great.

02:06:37.000 My dad had to read it.

02:06:38.000 Great book, and it talks about very simply how every boy wants a princess to save, a dragon to slay, and kind of goes through the sort of fantasies of young boys and what that really represents, being a provider, the damsel in distress, which is inherent into the male psyche.

02:06:53.000 And so whether you're a believer or a deist or not, it is a fascinating book.

02:06:58.000 And that's why I see there are a lot of coalitions between sort of pragmatic atheists and even really very, I guess, sort of Bible-believing Christians.

02:07:06.000 They've been talking about this for a long time.

02:07:09.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to go.

02:07:10.000 I want to get to the pup place.

02:07:11.000 Oh, yeah.

02:07:11.000 Okay, go ahead.

02:07:12.000 And then we'll get to the pup place because we don't have that much time.

02:07:14.000 No, really, to me, that's the undercurrent of all of the feminist movement, the current gay movement, the transgender movement, is the people that are fighting so hard against what you were describing earlier, this idea that boys need to compete with each other, that it's good for a boy to learn respect and manners and marry a woman who respects him and he loves her, and they build a household together and they raise children, that that heteronormative idea...

02:07:14.000 You're fine.

02:07:42.000 Is the ideal.

02:07:44.000 And that all of this, all the rest of this that we're seeing are the people desperately trying to justify why their lifestyle choices are just as good, even though they're in pain.

02:07:54.000 Right.

02:07:55.000 That's just my...

02:07:56.000 No, I appreciate your candid.

02:07:57.000 Okay, so speaking of which, pup play.

02:07:59.000 Pup play.

02:07:59.000 Zach Ford.

02:08:00.000 Explain it real quick.

02:08:00.000 Give us in 20 seconds, what is pup play so people don't think I was lying earlier?

02:08:05.000 Pup play now...

02:08:08.000 It's changed.

02:08:11.000 But one of my first gay images was men in thongs with a leather chain on their knees on the ground with their master at a gay pride parade.

02:08:22.000 Now they're in full latex stuff with dog heads, and they're sitting with...

02:08:28.000 The weird picture where it's this woman and a man, and then they're with other people like he's a dog.

02:08:33.000 Yeah.

02:08:34.000 The only reason we know this is because, was it Zach Ford?

02:08:36.000 Is he at Think Progress?

02:08:37.000 Or is he at Think Progress?

02:08:37.000 He's the editor.

02:08:37.000 Yeah.

02:08:38.000 He's the editor.

02:08:39.000 Of LGBT. So this is mainstream.

02:08:41.000 Not good yet.

02:08:42.000 It looks very disturbed.

02:08:43.000 Is this an expensive hobby?

02:08:44.000 Well, the suits.

02:08:44.000 And put out this picture.

02:08:45.000 It sounds expensive.

02:08:46.000 It's like a super suit, but with dog ears.

02:08:47.000 Leather suits.

02:08:48.000 And like, paws and...

02:08:51.000 Yeah.

02:08:51.000 And they're role-playing.

02:08:53.000 And if I'm not mistaken, generally speaking, getting into sexual activities dressed as a dog.

02:08:57.000 Now, am I saying it should be illegal?

02:08:59.000 No.

02:08:59.000 None of that.

02:09:01.000 But it's weird.

02:09:01.000 But I can judge it.

02:09:02.000 Yes, it's very creepy to me.

02:09:04.000 And by the way, if you identify as a dog now, because now we're in the inner species, does that mean that you are one?

02:09:09.000 And is that technically bestiality?

02:09:12.000 I don't know.

02:09:12.000 When I was seven, I thought I was a cat.

02:09:15.000 Yeah.

02:09:16.000 My parents didn't give me a litter box.

02:09:18.000 But you know what struck me?

02:09:19.000 You just used the couch.

02:09:21.000 I did.

02:09:21.000 What struck me was Zach was like, this is like a beautiful part of, it enriches the gay community.

02:09:27.000 And I'm like, a man in a latex dog suit on his knees, like, it's a weird, like, humiliation kind of thing. 0.93

02:09:35.000 Like, on the fetish side, it's all, you know, I want to be humiliated.

02:09:38.000 How does that enhance or enrich? 0.98

02:09:40.000 I don't understand how most of the gay pride parade enhances when you have people in the Folsom Street Fair just having sex on the streets. 1.00

02:09:47.000 Again, if you want to say it's acceptable, but how does that enhance or enrich the community?

02:09:53.000 I fully embrace the concept of a dominant male and a submissive partner and all that kind of stuff.

02:10:02.000 I think it works very well, but...

02:10:05.000 Out on the street with a dog collar and stuff, originally the gay pride parades were designed to scare straight people. 0.98

02:10:12.000 It was this idea of we're going to be the most ridiculous, absurd thing in the world. 0.98

02:10:16.000 We're going to do everything we do in the bedroom out on the street and we're going to push it in your face. 0.99

02:10:19.000 Remember, we're here, we're queer, get used to it. 0.79

02:10:22.000 Right.

02:10:23.000 And over time, they've just decided that instead of pursuing, I have the right to choose, they're pursuing, everything I do is valid and you must accept it.

02:10:34.000 And that's what they're pushing out.

02:10:35.000 I feel like they have the gay marriage, and so right away, this was the big thing. 0.96

02:10:39.000 It's done now, trans bathrooms, Captain America gay, pop play on the streets. 1.00

02:10:44.000 I feel like they're just reaching for stuff. 0.68

02:10:45.000 And the unfortunate thing is a lot of people... 0.80

02:10:48.000 I think lump all of the gay community in because these people have the loudest voices and unfortunately people like you who probably watch this and go, oh my gosh, what a fruitcake. 0.99

02:10:57.000 People lump you in the same category now and they're starting to reject all of it.

02:11:02.000 Is it representative?

02:11:03.000 Do you think there are more gay people out there like you or like the Pup Plays Act Ford people and have you felt that backlash sort of growing because of it?

02:11:10.000 I think there are a lot more people like me.

02:11:13.000 I think the average gay person identifies with the LGBT movement because we kind of have this culture of us against them. 0.98

02:11:22.000 We're a community, we're a family, and they hate you and the Christians are going to come get you and all that stuff. 1.00

02:11:26.000 I think, though, more and more...

02:11:29.000 Even those people who would consider themselves liberal and even leftist are looking at five-year-olds declaring their gender and people in dog costumes and women who have full neckbeards and are obese with Other women and they get pregnant and then they call that a loving family. 0.65

02:11:48.000 I think more and more people are starting to just say, it's harder to be open-minded now.

02:11:52.000 And that's not us.

02:11:54.000 I think there's a big push. 0.85

02:11:55.000 It's hard because the entire gay media right now is all transgender all the time. 1.00

02:11:59.000 Yeah, I know. 0.94

02:12:00.000 And it's so aggressive.

02:12:02.000 It is, but it's funny.

02:12:04.000 If you look at gay movies for the longest time, there was this really strong thing of transgender people are not us.

02:12:11.000 A man who's attracted to women but feels like a woman trying to be in a lesbian relationship was controversial.

02:12:19.000 Those ideas, it was always kind of weird, and now it's all we ever talk about, and I think a lot of people really just want to be LGB. Right.

02:12:27.000 Well, I think you're right, and not only that, but it really destroys the whole nature-nurture argument that gays were pushing for a long time, and it's nature, that you're born this way, whereas then you had some Christians who were too far the other going, you choose! 0.70

02:12:39.000 And now they're saying, no, no, you choose gender, and, you know, the gender fluidity, and it really has tossed it on its head, and I think a lot of people are regressing with all of it.

02:12:48.000 Yeah, and the reality is that to accept the transgender movement means to reject the sexual orientation argument.

02:12:54.000 The idea that I'm born attracted to men is what we've been pushing for decades.

02:13:00.000 There's something in my head that says I'm attracted to men.

02:13:03.000 But if you are born female with a female body and male is me... 0.99

02:13:08.000 We have 20 seconds, so you've got to wrap it up, sorry.

02:13:11.000 Male is meaningless until you decide you're male. 0.96

02:13:13.000 How can I be attracted to males naturally if male has no meaning until you decide where it is?

02:13:18.000 Well, it's a good question.

02:13:19.000 You can't have one or the other.

02:13:20.000 It's a good question, but we have to let you go.

02:13:22.000 We will get your Twitter handle up here after the break.

02:13:24.000 Get some ice on that AIDS. Drink some hot soup. 1.00

02:13:26.000 Hopefully you'll do better next time we talk with you.

02:13:28.000 Ladder with Crowder.

02:13:29.000 Stay tuned.

02:13:31.000 Greetings, America.

02:13:42.000 Hopper here.

02:13:45.000 You may have heard of a string of recent controversies surrounding my life and my campaign.

02:13:52.000 While none of these allegations are true, and it is sad that this is how our election system currently works, I am forced to regretfully temporarily suspend my campaign.

02:14:07.000 In the best interest of my family and what I believe is best for all humans and dogs in America.

02:14:17.000 This is just a temporary goodbye, but it is not the end.

02:14:22.000 And I will keep you updated and be back after a long-needed break and some cheating.

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02:15:28.000 music plays Final segment.

02:15:41.000 Thank you so much to Chad Felix Green.

02:15:41.000 Glad to be back.

02:15:44.000 You can follow him on Twitter.

02:15:45.000 Chad Felix Green.

02:15:46.000 Green with an E. Green with an E. Always an interesting guy.

02:15:49.000 Always an interesting guy.

02:15:50.000 He comes on.

02:15:51.000 He's a little slow.

02:15:51.000 He just opens up.

02:15:53.000 Slower on the outset.

02:15:54.000 Slow out of the gate.

02:15:55.000 Where you're like, okay.

02:15:56.000 And then, boom.

02:15:57.000 He hits you with something where you go, hold on a second.

02:15:59.000 You just skimmed over that.

02:16:01.000 So, of course, one of our biggest fans, Daniel Eldridge, wanted to ask us about some controversy.

02:16:05.000 Female Ghostbusters, feminist Ghostbusters. 0.98

02:16:07.000 The reason we haven't gotten into this is because we want to talk about it as we get closer to the release.

02:16:11.000 We may or may not have some things planned, and I do know about the angry video game nerd guy.

02:16:15.000 When does it come out?

02:16:16.000 Is it soon?

02:16:17.000 I want to say it's July.

02:16:17.000 Because I feel like I've seen it a lot.

02:16:19.000 Well, they've been pushing it hard as a feminist deal. 1.00

02:16:21.000 It always scares me as a movie.

02:16:23.000 When you see a lot of trailers, it tends to be...

02:16:25.000 For a long time before, and then there's almost the bubble where they don't promote it as much right before the...

02:16:30.000 I don't think it's going to be right.

02:16:31.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:16:32.000 I'm one of the few people I think Melissa McCarthy is funny.

02:16:34.000 I know a lot of people don't.

02:16:35.000 I think she's funny.

02:16:36.000 I think she's funny.

02:16:36.000 I don't think the other women in there are funny at all.

02:16:38.000 Eh, hit-miss.

02:16:39.000 The one blonde who... 1.00

02:16:41.000 She's funny as Hillary Clinton on SNL. That's about it. 1.00

02:16:46.000 Is Kristen Wiig in this one? 0.97

02:16:47.000 I don't find her funny at all.

02:16:48.000 I think she's painfully unfunny.

02:16:51.000 Her and Molly Shannon, I just think, are the worst female comedians ever. 1.00

02:16:56.000 Ever, ever, ever.

02:16:57.000 I just find them so horrendously unfunny.

02:16:59.000 I know people are going to get mad at that.

02:17:01.000 Kirsten Wiig on SNL, her whole thing was just... 0.96

02:17:03.000 I'll put my chin down and make a face! 0.80

02:17:05.000 And we're like, oh, she's so random!

02:17:07.000 She's so clever! 0.86

02:17:08.000 I just don't find her funny.

02:17:09.000 I find her funny in a few movies.

02:17:11.000 That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

02:17:13.000 In a few movies, maybe.

02:17:14.000 Anyway, the point is, they're pushing this with the feminist deal, and they don't understand the backlash. 1.00

02:17:18.000 You know, if you just respected the original Ghostbusters, which is a classic, probably one of the top guy films of all time, I've actually thought she can be funny on SNL. I watched her stand-up.

02:17:46.000 It is every single negative stereotype that you could possibly imagine of a black female comedian. 0.99

02:17:50.000 They just go up and, Hey, what's up, mother... 0.90

02:17:52.000 Ha! 0.89

02:17:53.000 Ha! 0.89

02:17:53.000 I shoot hoops, y'all! 0.89

02:17:54.000 I'm dunking on, bitch! 1.00

02:17:56.000 That's her whole thing. 1.00

02:17:57.000 It's her whole shtick.

02:17:58.000 Like, if you were to write for Simpsons or Family Guy, a quintessential sort of hack black comic, it's her. 1.00

02:18:03.000 But because she's a woman, she gets a free pass. 1.00

02:18:05.000 Really, really bad.

02:18:06.000 I thought she was actually funny on SNL, and I want to watch the stand-up.

02:18:08.000 I can't do it anymore.

02:18:09.000 Ruins it.

02:18:11.000 So, by the way, tweet your support at hashtag FeelTheHopper.

02:18:13.000 It looks like Hopper2016 just suspended his campaign.

02:18:18.000 We were talking with Chad about something that he mentioned right before we went to the break.

02:18:22.000 There was something that he mentioned, and I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was important, and it showed up in my tweets.

02:18:28.000 The puppy play we were talking about.

02:18:30.000 Gosh, I can't remember.

02:18:32.000 Maybe people can tweet me and they'll remind me at S. Crowder.

02:18:34.000 There was something there that I was remembering and I forgot what it was.

02:18:38.000 Chad just hit on a few chords and went, oh my gosh, I really want to talk about that.

02:18:42.000 But there definitely is a rejection.

02:18:44.000 I've noticed this.

02:18:44.000 We have these bits and we do these commercials and we do some stuff on the show that, like I was saying, two, three years ago, there's no way we could have done it.

02:18:53.000 There's no way you could have the Che Guevara t-shirt available soon.

02:18:57.000 Socialism is for figs.

02:18:58.000 You couldn't have done that.

02:18:59.000 And I just think people are going, like we said, we've talked about it.

02:19:02.000 If you go back a year plus in this show, where I go, the pendulum swings the other way.

02:19:07.000 You can only call people racist, homophobic for so long until they go, you know what?

02:19:09.000 All right, fine, let's go with that.

02:19:10.000 Fine.

02:19:11.000 I'm not going to fight anymore.

02:19:12.000 Oh, yeah, I'm racist, just like Ben Carson is racist, right? 0.66

02:19:15.000 Right. 0.93

02:19:15.000 Yeah, I'm a white guy, so I'm racist. 0.93

02:19:17.000 But you do the same thing with Ben Carson?

02:19:18.000 Got it.

02:19:19.000 Yeah, I'm a homophobe, just like...

02:19:21.000 Dave Rubin is a homophobe, just like Milo's a homophobe, just like Chad Felix Green is a homophobe.

02:19:24.000 Sure, fine. 0.98

02:19:24.000 Okay, I'm a homophobe. 0.98

02:19:25.000 Great.

02:19:26.000 Yeah, no, I don't want Captain America taking turns on a swinging dong.

02:19:30.000 Okay, fine, I'm a homophobe.

02:19:31.000 Let's go with that.

02:19:32.000 And that's what happens.

02:19:34.000 And it goes back to...

02:19:35.000 Not too far the other way, necessarily.

02:19:37.000 I don't know that it has yet.

02:19:38.000 But it does.

02:19:39.000 The pendulum swings back.

02:19:40.000 And people need to understand that.

02:19:41.000 And people on the right need to understand that, too.

02:19:44.000 That's just the natural cycle of society.

02:19:47.000 And a lot of people think we're somehow beyond it.

02:19:50.000 We were talking about this with young children who've never...

02:19:52.000 You have kids right now who are 25 or younger.

02:19:54.000 They really don't remember 9-11.

02:19:55.000 So they think humanity has evolved beyond conflict.

02:19:59.000 They've grown up in a world where America's number one and, well, we don't really need the army.

02:20:03.000 Let's downsize it as Bernie wants so you can give me free college.

02:20:07.000 And we're fine.

02:20:09.000 They've never seen that attack, that reality.

02:20:12.000 And somehow we want to believe that humanity is somehow beyond hardwired biology.

02:20:17.000 That men are attracted to certain traits in women.

02:20:19.000 that the vast majority of the population is heterosexual, that certain sexual activities are more corrosive, not only to the human body, but the mind.

02:20:29.000 And certain lifestyles are more beneficial than other lifestyles.

02:20:33.000 You can only push that so much and tell people they're beyond humanity until they see humanity, until they see it.

02:20:41.000 I mean, Chad is a perfect example. 0.92

02:20:43.000 We joke about it, and he's a great sport, but here he talked about getting HIV and someone who didn't disclose it and actually forcefully raped him. 0.98

02:20:49.000 Actual rape. 0.97

02:20:50.000 We talked about that.

02:20:51.000 And if you're mad about this and you're sending in your complaints to one of our affiliates, fine.

02:20:54.000 I don't care.

02:20:55.000 This is one thing.

02:20:56.000 We only get complaints on traditional radio.

02:20:58.000 We're just being real here.

02:20:59.000 The guy was raped by someone who wanted to transmit AIDS or HIV. And so I'm sure that probably changed his outlook, where he thought, we're beyond this, and I'm part of a loving community.

02:21:09.000 And humanity, human nature, will rear its ugly head or its second head, whether it is in straight life. 0.99

02:21:17.000 Here, Islam, gay. 1.00

02:21:19.000 That's what I wanted to talk about. 0.92

02:21:21.000 He was talking about gay things in the media and how it's changed.

02:21:24.000 So we were talking about this.

02:21:25.000 Like, for example, I don't want to watch Gay Captain America. 1.00

02:21:27.000 I talked about this.

02:21:28.000 Why?

02:21:29.000 Most trade people don't like watching gay things.

02:21:31.000 It's uncomfortable. 1.00

02:21:31.000 Just like they don't like watching ugly naked women. 1.00

02:21:34.000 Kathy Bates in About Schmidt. 0.99

02:21:36.000 I'm going to throw up. 0.97

02:21:37.000 Two naked dudes getting it on is even more unappealing to a straight guy. 0.99

02:21:41.000 Generally speaking, women aren't... 1.00

02:21:42.000 And the whole lesbian thing is a lie. 1.00

02:21:44.000 Lesbians... 1.00

02:21:44.000 The closest thing in real life to one of those attractive lesbians is Portia Del Rossi. 1.00

02:21:47.000 And she still has to go home to Ellen.

02:21:51.000 But not only do they want to push gay characters, and the abuse is far higher in lesbian households and in homosexual households and separation, but when was the last time you saw a film where any gay, transgender, lesbian was the bad person?

02:22:02.000 Or was in an unhealthy relationship?

02:22:03.000 Or an abusive relationship? 0.98

02:22:04.000 It's always this secret, closeted, conservative Republican who's secretly gay and is going through a divorce, and the gay couple helps them. 0.60

02:22:11.000 There's nothing wrong with having good gay people in programming.

02:22:14.000 Absolutely.

02:22:14.000 But it's not an honest representation.

Louder with Crowder - May 27, 2016

#76 LET’S GAY ALL THE THINGS! Matt Mitrione, Dr. Boniface, and Chad with AIDS | Louder With Crowder

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