Louder with Crowder - #79 ISLAMOPHOBIA OH NOES!! Dave Rubin, Gerald Morgan and Anni Cyrus | Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.

00:00:05.000 Politics.

00:00:06.000 Civility.

00:00:07.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

00:00:09.000 Entertainment.

00:00:10.000 I don't like entertainment.

00:00:12.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:00:14.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:00:17.000 If you have a very unhealthy body, you should have a horrible body image.

00:00:19.000 Not a big home improvement market in Detroit.

00:00:22.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

00:00:24.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal. 0.97

00:00:28.000 You're a strange animal.

00:00:31.000 You're getting louder with Crowder. 0.78

00:00:35.000 It's the third show in June, which marks Louder with Crowder's official cultural appropriation month.

00:00:47.000 Join us each week as we travel the globe, appreciating and illuminating you on all the great cultures this world has to offer.

00:00:55.000 Up this week, the ancient culture of the Middle East.

00:01:00.000 *Loud laugh* Glad to be with you That sound is the sound of the weekend.

00:01:28.000 Don't speak.

00:01:29.000 Don't speak.

00:01:30.000 When you're Burkhead, you don't speak to me. 1.00

00:01:32.000 I am your host, Stephen Crowder.

00:01:33.000 Of course, producing with me in studio, as always, is NotGayJarred. 0.91

00:01:37.000 You can follow him on Twitter at NotGayJarred.

00:01:39.000 He is not gay. 0.55

00:01:40.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:01:41.000 Draw your own conclusions.

00:01:42.000 We good?

00:01:45.000 You can speak.

00:01:45.000 We're fine.

00:01:46.000 Yeah, we're good.

00:01:47.000 I give you permission.

00:01:48.000 We're good.

00:01:49.000 You know, we're doing Cultural Appropriation Month.

00:01:51.000 Of course, that continues this week.

00:01:53.000 We did Mexico, China, now the Middle East.

00:01:55.000 The reason we had to pick the Middle East is just because there's no particular standout country.

00:02:00.000 So we went with a region, which I think is more fair.

00:02:03.000 You know, you don't have to wear that burqa the whole night. 0.91

00:02:05.000 The burqa? 0.97

00:02:06.000 You don't have to wear it the whole night.

00:02:07.000 You can take it off.

00:02:07.000 Really?

00:02:08.000 I have to get rid of the beard here.

00:02:10.000 Because this is not going to make it possible for me to talk.

00:02:13.000 All right, glad to be with you.

00:02:14.000 We have some tremendous guests here tonight.

00:02:16.000 We have Dave Rubin, who will come on the show later.

00:02:18.000 We'll have a discussion about gun control.

00:02:21.000 We'll have a discussion, a debate about the gun control.

00:02:23.000 See, you look good.

00:02:24.000 Your face looks good.

00:02:25.000 You don't have to hide that pretty face behind a burka. 1.00

00:02:27.000 You're here in North America.

00:02:29.000 Just the way God made you.

00:02:29.000 I appreciate it.

00:02:31.000 And then we are going to have Gerald Morgan, of course, in the second hour.

00:02:34.000 Great guest.

00:02:34.000 Great guest, who really doesn't know a whole lot about Islam.

00:02:37.000 We'll be talking about Islam, and we will have Annie Cyrus on at the half hour here, who was a child bride in Islam and knows it pretty well.

00:02:46.000 Knows the religion pretty well.

00:02:47.000 Let me move my seat here because it's on my garb.

00:02:50.000 I don't know how they live like this.

00:02:52.000 No wonder they drowned in record numbers.

00:02:54.000 It's a real problem.

00:02:55.000 Did you know that with the burka?

00:02:56.000 It's a real problem.

00:02:57.000 Alright.

00:02:58.000 We have a little bit of a new setup and some big announcements to make.

00:03:01.000 I don't know why not Gay Jared is laughing so hard. 0.98

00:03:03.000 So we're glad to be with you this week.

00:03:05.000 Of course, a horrible tragedy this week.

00:03:07.000 Alright, let's start this off.

00:03:09.000 You know, it's mandatory to say thoughts and...

00:03:14.000 What's that?

00:03:16.000 I'm not sure what that is.

00:03:18.000 But I like the jam.

00:03:20.000 Oh, does that mean it's call to prayer?

00:03:22.000 It must be getting close.

00:03:24.000 Which direction's Mecca?

00:03:24.000 It's call to prayer time.

00:03:27.000 I think it was that one over there.

00:03:29.000 Okay.

00:03:30.000 Yeah.

00:03:32.000 We got it?

00:03:33.000 Take part in your prayer, Jared.

00:03:37.000 There you go.

00:03:38.000 We got it.

00:03:39.000 Okay.

00:03:39.000 We faced Mecca.

00:03:40.000 We did our prayer.

00:03:41.000 So listen, it's a terrible week.

00:03:42.000 Mandatory to say thoughts and prayers.

00:03:45.000 And of course that's true.

00:03:47.000 And I hate the fact that we have to politicize these issues right away.

00:03:50.000 I hate the fact that that happens, but it's reality.

00:03:53.000 And conservatives need to accept, anyone who's anti-authoritarian needs to accept that it is reality.

00:03:59.000 This happened, of course, the tragic shooting in Orlando and before the bodies were even cold.

00:04:04.000 When a man named Omar Mateen opened fire on a bunch of gays in a nightclub because they were gay and because he was Muslim and pledged his allegiance to ISIS, we are talking about gun control.

00:04:17.000 That is what's happened right off the bat. 0.77

00:04:20.000 And we've gotten so far left in this country.

00:04:23.000 Let me give you a couple of important pieces, and let me go general for you.

00:04:28.000 And then we'll come back and we'll talk specific news of the day.

00:04:31.000 Sally Cohn got really mad at me.

00:04:32.000 We'll talk about those tweets later.

00:04:34.000 We'll rebut Samantha Bee later and Conan O'Brien.

00:04:36.000 We don't want to do it right now, right off the bat.

00:04:38.000 Let's give you the general idea.

00:04:39.000 First, the Marlies were dead to begin with.

00:04:42.000 This man went through the security checks, he wasn't on a terror list, he wasn't on a no-fly list, and he didn't use an AR-15.

00:04:50.000 Wasn't on a terror list, wasn't on a no-fly list, didn't go through a loophole, and he didn't use an AR-15.

00:04:57.000 That's important for people to know.

00:04:59.000 Because people want to repeat it in your brain, AR-15, AR-15, AR-15, AR-15, they want to make you scared of that rifle.

00:05:04.000 Even though they've never fired it.

00:05:05.000 They have no idea what a semi-automatic weapon is.

00:05:07.000 They have no idea what an assault rifle is because it doesn't exist.

00:05:10.000 But they want to drill this in your head.

00:05:13.000 Repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition of the lie.

00:05:15.000 None of those things are true.

00:05:17.000 Okay?

00:05:17.000 I've written about it at ladderwithcudder.com.

00:05:19.000 Let's start with that. 0.99

00:05:20.000 Sally Cohn gets up and right away the left is saying Christians, including the ACLU, Christian conservatives created this environment because we don't want penises in the ladies' room. 0.99

00:05:32.000 Sally Cohn talked about Christians and their anti-gay bigotry. 0.99

00:05:35.000 Because a private bakery not wanting to bake a gay wedding cake and slaughtering 49 gays in a nightclub, the comparability is striking. 0.97

00:05:46.000 It's more or less the same thing. 0.94

00:05:48.000 It's in the ballpark in the Sally Cohn brain.

00:05:51.000 And so I tweeted her on Twitter saying, yeah, Baker's not baking a cake versus 50 homos dead in a nightclub. 1.00

00:05:58.000 I can see the similarity.

00:05:59.000 Now it's Twitter. 0.97

00:06:01.000 She gets off on the homos. 1.00

00:06:04.000 How dare you use the word?

00:06:06.000 People are more offended about an abbreviation. 0.98

00:06:10.000 Of the medically correct term, homosexual, than they are the fact that Islam is killing record numbers of gays across the globe and it's happening on your own soil. 0.98

00:06:20.000 The left is more offended if you say the wrong word. 0.95

00:06:23.000 I don't know if queer is the right word or if it's gay half the time.

00:06:26.000 There's LGBTQ, some people tell you queer is, the Q is queer, some people tell you that it's questioning.

00:06:31.000 They're more concerned with the words.

00:06:32.000 Why?

00:06:33.000 Why are they more concerned with the words when 50 people are dead?

00:06:35.000 I'll tell you why they're more concerned with the words, because they know they can hang you on them.

00:06:39.000 They know that they can hang you on the words.

00:06:41.000 If people are focusing on the words, if people are focusing on the joke, they don't actually examine the policy.

00:06:46.000 They don't actually examine the heart behind the words.

00:06:49.000 They don't actually have to face evil in the face.

00:06:53.000 That's why people like Sally Cohn are doing it. 1.00

00:06:54.000 That's why they want to make it about the AR-15.

00:06:56.000 They don't want to acknowledge that we have evil amongst us.

00:06:59.000 And here's the thing, conservatives.

00:07:00.000 We need to be honest about this, okay?

00:07:02.000 Good guy with a gun would be...

00:07:03.000 No!

00:07:04.000 No!

00:07:04.000 That may not be true.

00:07:06.000 Do I think good guys with guns are good?

00:07:07.000 Yes.

00:07:08.000 Do I believe you should go buy a firearm?

00:07:09.000 As a matter of fact, I think that everybody out there right now should not only buy a firearm, I want to see trending.

00:07:14.000 Hashtag, gift a gun.

00:07:17.000 If you have any loved ones or friends who are responsible, obviously in clear medical health, who don't own a firearm, you should purchase them a firearm as a gift.

00:07:25.000 Why?

00:07:25.000 Because when it's shipped to them, to their local FFL dealer, they will have to go through the paperwork.

00:07:30.000 Now, even if they don't fire that gun, even if they don't like it, they have to go pick it up because you filed it under their name and you've shipped it to them, right?

00:07:36.000 They have to go pick it up.

00:07:37.000 They will have to fill out paperwork and a background check.

00:07:39.000 Here's why that's important.

00:07:41.000 The easiest way to refute The propaganda that's coming out from Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton where they say, you can get a machine gun without a background check.

00:07:50.000 All it takes is for someone to have ever purchased a firearm.

00:07:53.000 Once. 0.99

00:07:54.000 If they've done it once, they can say, sorry Jared, bullshit. 0.98

00:08:01.000 For terrestrial, we're going to have to have that dump button. 1.00

00:08:03.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:08:05.000 Anyone who's ever purchased a firearm knows that it is absolute, complete, patent bullshit. 1.00

00:08:11.000 They've done it illegally. 0.99

00:08:12.000 I don't know.

00:08:12.000 I'm not talking about the Bludge of the Crips.

00:08:14.000 That's why.

00:08:15.000 So here's the beauty of this.

00:08:17.000 The Second Amendment fundamental gun rights are a winning issue because over 90 million Americans have guns.

00:08:23.000 At least hundreds of millions of guns in the United States of America.

00:08:26.000 And you want to make that more.

00:08:28.000 Because every single one of them knows that it's a lie that you can get a gun without a background check.

00:08:32.000 Or that a background check would stop a crazy person from getting a gun.

00:08:34.000 By the way, the no-fly list is a joke.

00:08:37.000 And anyone who wants to use that as a litmus test for your fundamental human rights is a joke.

00:08:43.000 Whether it's Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

00:08:45.000 We don't know who it is yet.

00:08:46.000 Donald Trump said he wanted to talk with the NRA about not letting no-fly listers get guns.

00:08:50.000 He could mean that he wants to say we shouldn't not let them get guns.

00:08:54.000 He could do the double negative.

00:08:55.000 I don't know.

00:08:57.000 But that's a deal-breaker for me.

00:09:00.000 Boston Globe, or was it Boston Globe, Boston Press?

00:09:03.000 It's one of those Boston.

00:09:04.000 Boston Globe.

00:09:05.000 One of those Boston.

00:09:05.000 Boston Globe.

00:09:06.000 They want to release permit information publicly.

00:09:09.000 That's setting a crime map.

00:09:14.000 Here's something.

00:09:15.000 The Second Amendment, we'll get into this, we'll get into the rebuttal with Samantha Bee and Conan O'Brien.

00:09:18.000 The Second Amendment, when taken very literally, it's beautiful, it's like the Constitution.

00:09:22.000 Sorry, it's not like, it's like the Quran, the Constitution, or the Bible.

00:09:28.000 The Second Amendment, when taken literally, is really clear.

00:09:30.000 The right of the people.

00:09:31.000 Not the right of the militia.

00:09:31.000 The right of the people shall not be infringed, period.

00:09:34.000 Very clear.

00:09:35.000 When taken contextually, the Second Amendment is even more clear.

00:09:41.000 It's only for muskets, which is so funny.

00:09:43.000 They go, AR-15s are a weapon of war and have no place in it.

00:09:46.000 Well, what do you think the weapons of war were back then?

00:09:48.000 Dummy muskets and tanks.

00:09:49.000 Not tanks. 0.92

00:09:50.000 Cannons.

00:09:51.000 Sorry, they didn't have tanks.

00:09:52.000 Muskets and cannons. 0.79

00:09:52.000 Cannons. 0.79

00:09:53.000 They would have liked tanks.

00:09:54.000 They would have loved tanks.

00:09:57.000 And guess what?

00:09:57.000 Cannons.

00:09:59.000 Founding Fathers said yes to cannons.

00:10:00.000 There was a letter of mark and reprisal.

00:10:01.000 We've talked about that.

00:10:03.000 I think it was Jefferson?

00:10:03.000 Was it Madison?

00:10:04.000 A letter of mark and reprisal.

00:10:05.000 Madison.

00:10:05.000 Private ship.

00:10:07.000 And it wasn't written like, okay, we'll give you permission to have cannons.

00:10:09.000 It was, what?

00:10:10.000 Of course you can have cannons.

00:10:11.000 That's why we wrote the right to bear arms and not muskets. 0.98

00:10:17.000 No free man shall ever have his arms stripped.

00:10:20.000 These are direct quotes.

00:10:21.000 When you read more letters, when you look at the historical context, it only becomes more strong.

00:10:25.000 That's the beauty of the Second Amendment.

00:10:27.000 That's why Michael Woods Jr., who was on Joe Rogan, talking about how we need to rewrite the Second Amendment, agreed to come on the show.

00:10:33.000 We'll talk about him later.

00:10:34.000 Look into his past.

00:10:35.000 Agreed to come on the show.

00:10:36.000 Then changed the term, said he would only come on if people gave to a GoFundMe, then said he wouldn't come on, because the left can't defend it.

00:10:43.000 It's their biggest losing issue.

00:10:45.000 So the Second Amendment is really clear.

00:10:47.000 I invite anybody out there, anybody out there who can give me a convincing argument that the Second Amendment was meant only for muskets during that period of time. 0.99

00:10:56.000 Anyone.

00:10:56.000 That it wouldn't apply to modern firearms.

00:10:58.000 In that same breath, you'd have to make the argument that the First Amendment doesn't apply to people tweeting from their iPhone.

00:11:02.000 So that.

00:11:03.000 But then the question comes up, and not Gay Jared asked me this this week, is the second amendment, is the juice worth the squeeze?

00:11:11.000 Are we at a point where the negative ramifications are so great that maybe we need to do away with it?

00:11:15.000 That's what people are saying now.

00:11:15.000 That's another argument from the left.

00:11:17.000 Just do away with the second amendment. 1.00

00:11:18.000 It's not worth it anymore.

00:11:19.000 The cost of freedom is too great.

00:11:24.000 Good guy with a gun may not stop all of them.

00:11:26.000 We need to acknowledge that.

00:11:28.000 You can't contain evil.

00:11:31.000 Are we doing this again?

00:11:33.000 Yeah, we're going to break soon.

00:11:34.000 We're going to break soon?

00:11:35.000 Yep.

00:11:36.000 Already?

00:11:36.000 Yeah.

00:11:37.000 I wasn't even finished with my rant.

00:11:39.000 Time flies when you're having a blast.

00:11:41.000 I thought we were doing another call to prayer.

00:11:42.000 I wish.

00:11:43.000 Where's Mecca? 0.83

00:11:44.000 I don't know where Mecca is.

00:11:45.000 We're going to break?

00:11:46.000 Yeah, we.

00:11:47.000 Well, okay.

00:11:47.000 We'll see.

00:11:48.000 See ya, we have to go pray to Mecca. - Why didn't you just we have to go pray to Mecca. - Why didn't you just You don't fear death.

00:12:16.000 Your punishment must be more severe.

00:12:20.000 Is it like a rolled up newspaper?

00:12:22.000 More severe.

00:12:24.000 Torture?

00:12:26.000 Yes.

00:12:28.000 But not of your body.

00:12:31.000 Of your cheeses.

00:12:33.000 No!

00:12:35.000 You will watch me tear this country apart.

00:12:40.000 And I will do it.

00:12:43.000 With hope.

00:12:44.000 But I thought hope was a good thing.

00:12:47.000 Hope will poison their souls.

00:12:51.000 Hope for sardines.

00:12:54.000 Hope for cheeses.

00:12:56.000 But I don't see what's wrong with that hope.

00:12:59.000 They will never get sardines or cheeses.

00:13:02.000 These are empty promises. 1.00

00:13:05.000 Oh, you're a monster. 0.99

00:13:07.000 And once the country has ruined itself, and all the equons are mine, Big Square will fulfill its destiny. 1.00

00:13:17.000 And then, you have my permission to die. 0.99

00:13:22.000 Mmm. 1.00

00:13:28.000 The End

00:13:58.000 That is so creepy.

00:14:02.000 Where am I? In Hamtramck, Michigan?

00:14:03.000 I would like to say the music got better at some point.

00:14:05.000 It got picked up, but...

00:14:07.000 You know, someone right now is listening.

00:14:09.000 That was a top 40 hit.

00:14:10.000 Well, everything is top.

00:14:11.000 That's top 40.

00:14:11.000 Everything there.

00:14:12.000 Every top 40 in that country, that's what it is.

00:14:14.000 You want to hear the next song on that list?

00:14:15.000 It's the same song.

00:14:18.000 And then some Muslims don't like music.

00:14:21.000 That's true.

00:14:22.000 That's the thing, too.

00:14:24.000 Okay, a couple of things.

00:14:26.000 I've got this up on my screen from the Wall Street Journal.

00:14:29.000 There were suspicions of the Orlando shooter, and actually some firearm stores, dealers, refused to sell them ammo.

00:14:36.000 And you see leftists praising this.

00:14:37.000 Well, that's great.

00:14:38.000 Well, yeah, shouldn't private businesses have the right to refuse any service?

00:14:44.000 Imagine that.

00:14:45.000 I don't want to cater your wedding.

00:14:46.000 Why? 0.83

00:14:47.000 Is it because I'm gay? 0.99

00:14:47.000 I don't like your face. 0.99

00:14:49.000 I don't like your bowl cut. 0.95

00:14:50.000 Leave. 0.99

00:14:52.000 I would like to purchase a thousand rounds of ammo.

00:14:54.000 Okay, and your name?

00:14:55.000 No.

00:14:55.000 Omar?

00:14:58.000 Bye.

00:15:01.000 If you want to get real about the lists, you need to get real about profiling here.

00:15:04.000 There's one problem, and the problem is Islam. 1.00

00:15:06.000 But I'm surprised that leftists aren't talking about how, hey, it's great that private businesses have the right to make some judgment calls sometimes.

00:15:11.000 Sometimes they get it wrong, but they should have the right to make safety calls, whether it's a gun or it's a cake.

00:15:15.000 When it comes to the Second Amendment, I was talking about this before the break, some people are saying, is the juice worth the squeeze?

00:15:20.000 Are the effects worse?

00:15:22.000 Is this the cost of freedom?

00:15:23.000 We'll talk about that later with Samantha Bee.

00:15:24.000 Okay, the cost of freedom.

00:15:26.000 Sometimes good guys with the guns won't stop, but you have to accept that.

00:15:28.000 You cannot contain evil.

00:15:30.000 And sometimes this is a cost of freedom.

00:15:32.000 That'll be a soundbite.

00:15:33.000 Someone says the mass shootings should continue because it's the cost of freedom.

00:15:35.000 Listen, violence is down.

00:15:38.000 Okay?

00:15:39.000 After the assault weapons ban, you remove Chicago, Baltimore, gang violence, the mass shootings have not gone up.

00:15:45.000 Okay?

00:15:46.000 Statistically, it's not this bloodbath out there that people want.

00:15:50.000 Now, this is a horrific incident.

00:15:51.000 No one is belittling the incident.

00:15:53.000 No one is marginalizing the incident.

00:15:55.000 But you can't control evil. 0.98

00:15:56.000 And the evil is Islam. 1.00

00:15:57.000 The evil is not the AR-15, which wasn't used. 0.97

00:16:00.000 Is the juice worth the squeeze, the Second Amendment?

00:16:02.000 Well, let me tell you, what has the Second Amendment given you?

00:16:04.000 Okay, the Second Amendment is, the United States, this is important to note, it is founded on violence. 0.52

00:16:09.000 The United States was created, very specifically, through justifiable homicide.

00:16:14.000 Justifiable homicide against redcoats coming from a monarchy and an evil, oppressive, corrupt government who never allowed their people to have guns. 0.79

00:16:23.000 So the Second Amendment in a modern society, do you get some shootings?

00:16:26.000 Yeah, but guess what?

00:16:26.000 Without the Second Amendment, you would never have this modern society.

00:16:29.000 It wouldn't exist.

00:16:30.000 The industrial revolution, the technological leaps and bounds, electricity, light bulbs, all of them have come to you courtesy of the United States.

00:16:38.000 Why?

00:16:39.000 Because of freedom.

00:16:40.000 Freedom to innovate.

00:16:41.000 Freedom to create.

00:16:42.000 No place.

00:16:43.000 Left the world's greatest, most oppressive superpower of one century only to become the world's only superpower of the next century.

00:16:49.000 It's never happened before or since.

00:16:50.000 Not to this level.

00:16:51.000 You know what happened?

00:16:52.000 You know how they did that?

00:16:53.000 With firearms.

00:16:54.000 With the Second Amendment.

00:16:55.000 They said, we're not going to do it like them.

00:16:57.000 The only way we can make this work is by being different and ensuring that all of our citizens, unlike those jackasses over there in the king's land, can protect themselves.

00:17:08.000 Guess what else the Second Amendment did? 1.00

00:17:10.000 Stop, free the slaves...

00:17:12.000 The bloodiest war in American history, right?

00:17:14.000 Civil war?

00:17:16.000 Never would have happened without the Second Amendment. 0.58

00:17:18.000 Maybe some black Americans should be pretty grateful that the Second Amendment happened. 1.00

00:17:21.000 You think some farmers with pitchforks are going? 0.62

00:17:23.000 Yep.

00:17:24.000 You think you're going to do something with your gun?

00:17:25.000 Yeah, I do.

00:17:25.000 Yep.

00:17:26.000 So with that, the founding of the United States, which could have never taken place without the Second Amendment, which was very clearly, again, it clearly expressed that everybody has the right to bear arms, again, even contextually, it's more clear, cannons, well, High-capacity firearms, which existed back then.

00:17:42.000 Of course, we've dispelled those myths many, many times.

00:17:44.000 That's the only way the United States could have ever come to be.

00:17:47.000 And because of the United States, you have freedom of speech.

00:17:50.000 Because of the United States, you have a modern free press.

00:17:53.000 Because of the United States, you don't have slavery here in the United States.

00:17:57.000 Slavery has been ended mostly throughout the modern world.

00:17:59.000 It still exists in the Islamic world.

00:18:01.000 Again, let's go back to that. 0.96

00:18:02.000 Killing gays, they still have slaves in a lot of those countries, and of course in third-world countries. 1.00

00:18:06.000 Because of the United States... 0.99

00:18:08.000 Which could only come to be through the Second Amendment.

00:18:10.000 You have the Industrial Revolution.

00:18:12.000 You have the Technological Revolution.

00:18:13.000 You're able to watch this freely on your computer or on your iPad.

00:18:17.000 None of those things could have happened without freedom, and freedom could not have happened for the entire world without the United States and without the Second Amendment.

00:18:27.000 It was pivotal.

00:18:28.000 That's why it was in there as number two.

00:18:32.000 So you want to talk about culture?

00:18:33.000 That culture created everything that you are using and enjoying right now.

00:18:37.000 And by the way, there are plenty of other violent right to the south of us.

00:18:39.000 We have Mexico.

00:18:41.000 That's the cost of freedom?

00:18:42.000 What's the cost of not freedom?

00:18:43.000 The cost of not freedom is record rape in Sweden.

00:18:46.000 The cost of not freedom, the cost of authoritarianism, of course you have historical examples like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, but let's just talk today.

00:18:52.000 The cost of not freedom is groping.

00:18:56.000 And getting your hooch grabbed by someone free of charge at a German music festival.

00:19:01.000 The cost of no freedom is being put in jail for saying something unpopular or even playing, God forbid, kung fu fighting, which is labeled as hate speech.

00:19:09.000 The cost of not freedom is going to prison for two years for using the word tranny as could happen in Canada.

00:19:13.000 That's the cost of not freedom.

00:19:15.000 Oh, and by the way, they still have mass killings.

00:19:20.000 Yeah, sometimes the cost of freedom is not pretty, but conservatives need to also stop lying and say, well, we can stop this with more guns.

00:19:26.000 Do I think it will be better?

00:19:26.000 No, no.

00:19:27.000 Yes, because an armed society is a polite society, but you can't fix it. 0.63

00:19:31.000 I'm not bringing tidings of great joy here.

00:19:35.000 There is a cost to freedom.

00:19:37.000 And if you look at it throughout history, it's been bloody.

00:19:41.000 But everyone benefits.

00:19:42.000 And so I'm a little tired of these other places with crappier, inferior cultures. 1.00

00:19:47.000 A lot of these cultures, if you want to talk about Mexico or if you want to talk about some places in Europe, you want to talk about places in the Middle East, these people who are piping in, talking about how we need to implement gun control. 0.51

00:19:56.000 Other cultures outside of Western European or American cultures, we used to have a word for them.

00:20:00.000 It was an umbrella term.

00:20:01.000 Savagery.

00:20:02.000 That was the term we used for other cultures because ours is better than theirs. 1.00

00:20:04.000 You can send your letters to me or tweet me at S. Crowder.

00:20:07.000 I'm a little tired of them telling us how we should run our culture.

00:20:10.000 Well Mexico has a violent culture. 1.00

00:20:14.000 There are plenty of countries with violent cultures. 0.71

00:20:16.000 Liberals aren't trying to get out. 0.69

00:20:16.000 I mean, they're praising Venezuelan Chavez for crying out loud. 0.69

00:20:19.000 So just accept that actually the United States does not have greater violence than the UK. Certainly not stabbings or muggings, not overall violent crime rate, but yeah, guns are used in some more crimes and it's a more effective tool.

00:20:29.000 Except that maybe that's a part of our culture, which isn't inherently more violent than everyone else's, but it's a culture that allowed you to even benefit from your culture.

00:20:35.000 It's the culture that allows you to even exist at this point.

00:20:37.000 Yeah, I think the Second Amendment and the gun culture, freedom is worth the price. 0.75

00:20:45.000 I hope I've crystallized my answer for you.

00:20:50.000 Gift a gun.

00:20:51.000 Hashtag gift a gun.

00:20:54.000 Because anyone out there who purchases a firearm knows that what is being peddled right now is a lie.

00:20:59.000 So, okay.

00:20:59.000 We're going to get back with Gerald in the second hour, talking about Islam more theologically.

00:21:04.000 Annie Cyrus is coming up next.

00:21:05.000 She was personally a child bride, personally married off, lived in Iran, and fled it.

00:21:09.000 And so we're going to talk about her story personally first.

00:21:13.000 Then come into the macro...

00:21:15.000 We've moved past guns because you're logical people. 0.99

00:21:17.000 We're going to go to the evil that is Islam. 1.00

00:21:20.000 The greatest evil of our time. 1.00

00:21:21.000 Worse than Nazism. 0.99

00:21:22.000 They hate Jews just as much. 1.00

00:21:23.000 Hate them. 1.00

00:21:23.000 Can't stand them. 1.00

00:21:24.000 They hate them absolutely just as much.

00:21:27.000 Louder with Crowder.

00:21:28.000 Stay tuned.

00:21:29.000 Annie Cyrus next.

00:21:31.000 I can't believe he said that.

00:21:44.000 Oh, there you are.

00:21:45.000 You caught me on my off time.

00:21:46.000 You know, you're probably watching this video cast on YouTube or Facebook, or maybe you caught the live video stream Thursday nights, 8 p.m.

00:21:53.000 Eastern, 7 o'clock Central.

00:21:55.000 I don't know, but many of you don't know you can subscribe on iTunes or SoundCloud.

00:21:59.000 The audio version has exclusive commercials, sketches, and you can take it with you on the go. 0.99

00:22:04.000 Plus, it's free, and I know many of you are cheap bastards. 0.97

00:22:07.000 So, always looking out for you. 0.99

00:22:14.000 Glad to come back.

00:22:40.000 Glad to come back with this next guest with that fabulous bump from Pogo.

00:22:44.000 If you haven't heard him, you can go download his stuff.

00:22:46.000 Pogo is the name.

00:22:47.000 Australian artist.

00:22:48.000 Brilliant.

00:22:48.000 And this next lady is brilliant.

00:22:50.000 You can find all of her work at LiveUpToFreedom.com.

00:22:55.000 Fascinating life story.

00:22:57.000 Migrated to the United States.

00:22:59.000 Fled Islamic oppression. 0.99

00:23:00.000 And I'm not going to get a first name correct, so we'll go with the Twitter handle.

00:23:04.000 Kind of like Asian nail salons where all of a sudden their name is Tammy.

00:23:08.000 So we'll go with Annie Cyrus.

00:23:08.000 Yes.

00:23:10.000 Thank you so much for being with us.

00:23:13.000 It's absolutely my pleasure.

00:23:15.000 Thank you for having me.

00:23:16.000 Well, don't think it'll be your pleasure.

00:23:17.000 We haven't gotten into it yet, and usually people change their opinion.

00:23:20.000 So we got an email from Tony Bugle, a friend of the show, said, you have to have her on, and I've actually seen your stuff around.

00:23:26.000 You really specialize not only in Sharia law, And how it treats women, and of course you're excoriated for some of the stuff that you talk about.

00:23:34.000 But what's really important is you've had first-hand experience.

00:23:37.000 For those who don't know, you were, from what I read, you were sold off as a child bride, very young.

00:23:42.000 And, well, you take it so I don't botch it.

00:23:45.000 Why have you made this your life's mission to educate people on Islam and its relation with women?

00:23:51.000 Well, I was born and raised in the Islamic Republic of Iran.

00:23:56.000 With an N at the end, not a Q. It's Iran. 0.99

00:24:00.000 And I basically, not only was an Islamic country, it was also a very Islamic family that I grew up in.

00:24:07.000 My father was a sheikh, or better known as Imam here.

00:24:11.000 And my mom was a Quran teacher and a woman who would teach other women how to be an obeying good Muslim wife. 1.00

00:24:17.000 So I had to face it inside and outside.

00:24:21.000 Somehow some of the people get lucky inside their family.

00:24:25.000 They're not too religious.

00:24:26.000 But in my case, I had to deal with both.

00:24:28.000 And growing up until age 15, I basically faced almost anything except death a woman can face in Sharia law.

00:24:37.000 I was put in prison.

00:24:39.000 I was lashed.

00:24:40.000 I was sold to a marriage.

00:24:41.000 And I was beat up.

00:24:43.000 Obviously, that's a very normal thing that happens to a woman. 1.00

00:24:47.000 Why?

00:24:48.000 Did they just do it because it was Thursday or because you were lippy?

00:24:53.000 What was their justification?

00:24:55.000 Well, I do and did have a big mouth.

00:24:59.000 I wasn't the type to just take it.

00:25:01.000 So I would ask too many questions.

00:25:03.000 I was suspended from the school for asking too many questions about Quran.

00:25:07.000 My dad a couple times punched me for asking why do I have to cover my hair at age 7.

00:25:13.000 Going to school and the boys don't do it.

00:25:16.000 Or I would ask, why do I have to do the prayer?

00:25:19.000 I would just keep asking questions and none of them ever made sense to me.

00:25:23.000 Until today, it doesn't make sense to me.

00:25:26.000 That didn't change.

00:25:28.000 It won't.

00:25:29.000 There is no making sense out of Islam because there is no sense. 1.00

00:25:32.000 It's just one thing and one thing is you either obey, you end up dead.

00:25:37.000 That's just the way it is.

00:25:38.000 Now, some people will say, oh, this is anecdotal.

00:25:40.000 It was your personal experience.

00:25:41.000 It's not necessarily representative of mainstream.

00:25:44.000 In places like Iran or more moderate places, let's say, you know, like the UAE, that's what they'll say to try and rebut this very interview.

00:25:52.000 What do you say to those people?

00:25:54.000 Well, I normally say, grab a Quran.

00:25:57.000 If you don't have the actual whole copy, go to Quran, Q-U-R-A-N.com. 0.92

00:26:03.000 Find fourth surah named in Arabic or the woman in English, 176 verses.

00:26:10.000 Go ahead and read the first 13 verses and you get your answer.

00:26:14.000 On the first 13 verses it will tell you Allah himself that a woman is worth half a person. 0.99

00:26:20.000 It will tell you to beat your woman if she's not obeying you until she obeys. 0.98

00:26:25.000 So keep beating until she comes back to obeying you. 0.97

00:26:28.000 It does tell you that if you feel like you need more than one wife, you are allowed to get up to four permanent wives and unlimited sex slaves. 0.97

00:26:38.000 Well, there you have it.

00:26:39.000 It's right in your Quran.

00:26:41.000 Well, I would say that that is an answer, but they would say that it's not a good one.

00:26:44.000 Is that a fire alarm beeping that I'm hearing off in your thing?

00:26:47.000 Is it a battery that's not replaced?

00:26:47.000 Do you have one of those?

00:26:50.000 Oh.

00:26:51.000 You can't hear that?

00:26:52.000 I can hear it.

00:26:53.000 It's because you're smoking.

00:26:55.000 You took off a headdress and you're a good-looking lady and it's saying, this is what happens when you're in Western society. 0.94

00:27:01.000 Wildly inappropriate.

00:27:01.000 I'm sorry.

00:27:02.000 I'm very apologizing.

00:27:03.000 No, it's alright.

00:27:04.000 It's good. 0.99

00:27:05.000 It's okay because I know you won't beat me and I won't beat you because I believe you catch more bees with honey not beating the crap out of them like bearded Muslims do. 1.00

00:27:12.000 So, Muhammad did that. 0.98

00:27:14.000 Now, let me ask you this.

00:27:15.000 Point blank and then we'll move on with your story.

00:27:17.000 So, just give me yes or no.

00:27:19.000 Did Muhammad have a child bride? 1.00

00:27:21.000 Yes.

00:27:22.000 Did Muhammad beat his wife?

00:27:24.000 Yes. 1.00

00:27:25.000 Did Muhammad have sex with someone who was not his wife as a sex slave? 1.00

00:27:29.000 Yes. 1.00

00:27:30.000 Okay.

00:27:30.000 I want to make sure that's clear because you can go to liveuptofreedom.com and Annie Cyrus will explain it far better than I have.

00:27:38.000 I've explained it on the show.

00:27:39.000 I just want to make sure that people know point blank all those things are true.

00:27:42.000 They can search them.

00:27:43.000 So you're sold.

00:27:44.000 How old were you when you were sold into being a bride? 0.94

00:27:47.000 I was about 13, 14 when I was sold.

00:27:50.000 Now, forgive me, you don't have to answer this.

00:27:50.000 Okay.

00:27:53.000 They argue Muhammad didn't consummate until several years after.

00:27:57.000 Was that pretty much this husband was able to do whatever he wanted immediately?

00:28:02.000 Oh, Muhammad consummated the marriage at age nine.

00:28:04.000 Aisha was six when he got her, but consummation was at age nine.

00:28:09.000 I was 13, 14, way past that age, yes.

00:28:12.000 So, and was that...

00:28:16.000 Incredibly scary, or was it just kind of something that you knew, so you grew up with, and so it was just sort of another day in the life?

00:28:24.000 For me, it wasn't so much as scary, it pissed me off. 0.96

00:28:28.000 Because I hated the pig, and I couldn't say no. 0.97

00:28:32.000 I mean, I tried saying no. 0.98

00:28:33.000 Pretty much every bone in my body has been broken at least once.

00:28:37.000 I'm still dealing with some broken bones, believe it or not.

00:28:40.000 I have to do two surgeries because of bones he broke.

00:28:43.000 But it wasn't so much of a scary, no.

00:28:45.000 It pissed me off.

00:28:47.000 Right.

00:28:47.000 Pretty much hated it.

00:28:49.000 I'm sure that made you really mad.

00:28:52.000 But does it make you even more mad that when you come out and you speak about this?

00:28:55.000 Because I've seen the reactions to you that privileged leftists in the United States and California say, well, she's just angry and bitter.

00:29:03.000 It's not representative of Islam. 1.00

00:29:05.000 I would imagine that is probably more overall upsetting.

00:29:10.000 It does really piss me off when they say, oh, you just had a couple of bad experiences.

00:29:10.000 Oh, yes.

00:29:16.000 Oh, really?

00:29:18.000 I'm giving you verses from Quran, and I'm giving you Hadith from Muhammad, and you're telling me these are bad experiences.

00:29:18.000 Right.

00:29:24.000 Yes, it does piss me off.

00:29:26.000 However, I try to control my anger.

00:29:28.000 Right.

00:29:28.000 Well, that's true.

00:29:29.000 And now, is this effectively your life's work, educating people and lecturing?

00:29:35.000 Yes, pretty much.

00:29:36.000 That's all I do, 24-7.

00:29:38.000 And do you do a lot on college campuses?

00:29:40.000 What's the reaction to that like right now?

00:29:42.000 Because people have requested me be banned for making jokes about Islam, or of course, fat-shaming, whatever they're triggered by today.

00:29:48.000 But since that's your thing, have you had any specific reactions or been banned from campuses?

00:29:56.000 Oh, I was never allowed in.

00:29:58.000 I was turned down by any college, any high school, any university I ever send a request to have a speech.

00:30:05.000 So where do you do your speaking?

00:30:09.000 Well, pretty much all of it is through my videos.

00:30:13.000 I do the videos, they get shared on social media, on YouTube.

00:30:16.000 Sometimes they take them down and we have a backup so we put it back on.

00:30:20.000 I haven't had a single chance to get anywhere as far as public speaking.

00:30:25.000 Yeah.

00:30:26.000 They just won't let me.

00:30:27.000 Well, you know what's funny, too?

00:30:28.000 I think not only because people don't like what you have to say, but even if people might agree with you, and I've seen this behind the scenes, they're too afraid to take the risk with someone like you because it's a real security factor.

00:30:41.000 True.

00:30:41.000 Yes, they are afraid.

00:30:43.000 Okay, so let's assume this is a video.

00:30:46.000 What is it that you want people, having lived your life, to understand about Islam?

00:30:51.000 What's most important for them to get that you think people are missing?

00:30:55.000 Islam is not a religion. 1.00

00:30:57.000 Okay.

00:30:58.000 Islam is an ideology.

00:30:59.000 Yes.

00:31:00.000 That's the main thing they need to know because as soon as we get that out of the way, the very first thing is they cannot hide behind our First Amendment anymore.

00:31:08.000 So they can't have a free pass.

00:31:11.000 Okay.

00:31:11.000 So you say can't hide behind the First Amendment.

00:31:13.000 So obviously we're talking about no abridgment thereof as relation to religion.

00:31:18.000 Obviously the press has included freedom of speech.

00:31:20.000 What do you mean they can't hide behind the First Amendment?

00:31:22.000 Would you shut down mosques?

00:31:24.000 Do you mean no with Sharia? 0.99

00:31:27.000 How far would you go?

00:31:28.000 Well, to be honest, if it's up to me, I would definitely go with ban Sharia. 1.00

00:31:33.000 When you ban Sharia, they can't have mosques either because one thing about mosques is a lot of people actually automatically assume a mosque is where they do their prayers, and no they don't. 0.96

00:31:42.000 As soon as a mosque goes up, that means that area has been conquered by Sharia law. 1.00

00:31:46.000 That mosque turns into a Sharia court.

00:31:49.000 Meaning any person who's practicing Islam, any woman, will be endangered in that area because the husband doesn't have to take actual legal steps anymore.

00:31:59.000 They just go to the imam at the mosque and take whatever order they want, including beheading and stoning.

00:32:05.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:32:06.000 Are you saying all mosques function as Sharia courts?

00:32:11.000 Yes, the mosque is also a Sharia court.

00:32:15.000 Okay, I didn't know that, because I know there's like 80-something mosques in, Sharia courts, sorry, officially in the UK, and we have plenty of mosques here in the United States.

00:32:22.000 Those aren't labeled as Sharia courts.

00:32:25.000 Are you saying people are wrong?

00:32:26.000 That's under the radar?

00:32:27.000 They're acting as courts?

00:32:30.000 Yes, pretty much that's what it is.

00:32:31.000 If you grab the Al-Bukhari Hadith book, there are over 72 Hadith in there where Muhammad mentions that every imam that runs a mosque has the power to make decisions for family courts, which turns into a Sharia court.

00:32:47.000 Okay, I guess I was under the—because, listen, I'm very, very hard on Islam, if anyone has seen the videos that I've done. 0.99

00:32:51.000 I was under the impression that maybe that dealt more, like, with— Private marital counseling or family disputes, like you might see in a Christian church, right?

00:33:00.000 Couples having trouble, they go in, they see a counselor, and they try and remedy the relationship.

00:33:05.000 Do you mean that, or do you mean it goes further as to actually making legal decisions like divorce with legal ramifications?

00:33:12.000 Yes, that's what a mom in a mosque does. 1.00

00:33:16.000 Let's go back to Islamic Republic of Iran for a second.

00:33:19.000 All of the judges are actual imams. 1.00

00:33:23.000 In order to become a judge, you don't go and study law, you study Sharia in order to be a judge. 0.97

00:33:29.000 So all judges are imams, but does that mean that all imams are judges? 0.99

00:33:33.000 No, it depends on what level of imam they are.

00:33:38.000 However, any imam who runs a mosque is a judge. 0.99

00:33:42.000 In order to lead a mosque, you have to be a judge level of imam. 0.97

00:33:46.000 Meaning you are allowed to send out fatbas. 0.98

00:33:52.000 Okay, explain what that is for people who don't know.

00:33:54.000 Myself included.

00:33:56.000 Oh, okay.

00:33:59.000 Fatwa or fatwa, they pronounce it both ways.

00:34:03.000 Oh, I know fatwa. 0.93

00:34:04.000 I know that.

00:34:05.000 So, okay, but continue.

00:34:06.000 Well, the correct Arabic pronunciation of it is fatwa.

00:34:09.000 Okay.

00:34:10.000 Okay.

00:34:10.000 That's how they say it.

00:34:12.000 But it's basically a sentencing that is given to a Muslim who has disobeyed or walked away from Islam or, you know, insulted Allah or Muhammad or anything that goes against Sharia law. 0.55

00:34:23.000 That's the sentencing or judgment for that Muslim. 1.00

00:34:27.000 It's called fatwa. 0.82

00:34:27.000 Well, because people have said they put a fatwa on me. 0.82

00:34:30.000 Can't it be done for a non-Muslim for mocking Muhammad? 1.00

00:34:33.000 Because that's what I was told, that I had one on me for repeatedly mocking Muhammad.

00:34:38.000 Well, you need to keep one thing in mind.

00:34:40.000 In eyes of Muslims, every person that was ever born is Muhammadian or a Muslim.

00:34:45.000 So you might think you're not a Muslim, but they look at you as a Muslim who walked away from Islam.

00:34:51.000 Because as soon as you were born, you were Muhammadian. 0.99

00:34:53.000 And that's the whole goal of Islam, to turn the planet back to its origin, which is Muhammadian. 1.00

00:35:00.000 Well, that's interesting because, of course, people would say, well, Sharia law or these, you know, they don't affect anybody outside of the Islamic circle.

00:35:06.000 They have their own sort of, think of it as traditions.

00:35:08.000 But like you're saying, they see anyone who is not Muslim as actually Muslim but needs to be punished for refusing subjugation.

00:35:16.000 Yes.

00:35:17.000 What is the word they use?

00:35:19.000 Apostate?

00:35:19.000 Yes, apostate.

00:35:20.000 Yes.

00:35:21.000 You see, a lot of people say, oh, we're infertile or proud infertile or coffer.

00:35:26.000 At the end of the day, I have an actual Muslim, by meaning real Muslim, not some people who call themselves Muslims, but real Muslims.

00:35:35.000 We all are apostates because we were born a Muslim, but we chose to have a different faith, so we turned our back to Islam.

00:35:43.000 Right. 0.56

00:35:44.000 And, of course, that is punishable by death.

00:35:45.000 I had a friend even from her mother from Egypt had to flee.

00:35:48.000 Listen, Annie, sorry, I keep going with Annie.

00:35:50.000 I know it's not the right name.

00:35:51.000 We're going to have to go to a break, and I want to bring you back.

00:35:54.000 LiveUpToFreedom.com.

00:35:55.000 This is fascinating.

00:35:58.000 And she's quite easy on the eyes, too.

00:36:00.000 Thank God she made it to Western culture.

00:36:02.000 Lotter with Crowder.

00:36:03.000 Stay tuned.

00:36:03.000 We'll be back more with Annie Cybers.

00:36:05.000 And now for actual studio conversations.

00:36:23.000 Music I know we've joked about it, but what do you think?

00:36:36.000 Do you think Hillary Clinton is straight?

00:36:37.000 Do you think she's a lesbian? 1.00

00:36:40.000 People talk about it at...

00:36:46.000 I'm not saying it's definitive either way, but do you think so?

00:36:50.000 I go back and...

00:36:52.000 Okay, no, here.

00:36:53.000 Scenario. 1.00

00:36:54.000 Gun to your head, your family's head. 1.00

00:36:56.000 It's testified quickly. 1.00

00:36:57.000 Yes.

00:36:58.000 No, I'm serious right now, because you have to give a definitive answer.

00:37:01.000 So, your family's at gunpoint.

00:37:03.000 You have to bet your life and your family's lives has to be one or the other.

00:37:08.000 Those are the stakes.

00:37:09.000 You have to bet here and give an answer.

00:37:11.000 is Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:37:12.000 Yeah, she's a lesbian. 1.00

00:37:13.000 This has been Actual Studio Conversations. 0.77

00:37:27.000 Thanks.

00:37:28.000 Thank you.

00:37:29.000 Thank you.

00:37:31.000 Glad to be back.

00:38:00.000 LiveUpToFreedom.com, our guest with us, has taken the time educating, illuminating Annie Cyrus.

00:38:05.000 You can follow her on Twitter.

00:38:06.000 Thank you so much for being with us, and I appreciate your candor.

00:38:11.000 I can imagine that this is tough to speak about for a lot of people.

00:38:13.000 Do you just plow through it with anger?

00:38:17.000 Um, no.

00:38:19.000 I do it because I know I'm taking my revenge.

00:38:22.000 Oh, okay.

00:38:23.000 It's like a Jodie Foster film where she buys a gun and she lurks the New York subways.

00:38:23.000 So there you go.

00:38:28.000 I dig it.

00:38:28.000 I wouldn't want to cross you.

00:38:30.000 Hopefully you've been happy with this interview because I get the feeling that I have like a horse head in my bed if you were mad at someone.

00:38:36.000 You are just great.

00:38:38.000 You're fine.

00:38:38.000 Okay.

00:38:39.000 Well, thank you.

00:38:40.000 I, um...

00:38:42.000 So, you're in the United States now, and it seems like it's really hard.

00:38:48.000 You're sounding an alarm, and people aren't listening.

00:38:50.000 Do you feel like the tide is maybe changing a little bit, that people are becoming more comfortable with recognizing Islam for what it is?

00:38:57.000 I've noticed that things, if I would have said these things three years ago, people would have screamed Islamophobic.

00:39:02.000 But now even some progressives are saying, yeah, yeah, it's a problem.

00:39:07.000 Yes.

00:39:08.000 However, here's the biggest problem.

00:39:11.000 I think it's kind of late already.

00:39:14.000 I don't mean to be the downer here or the negative girl, but I wish they would let you say it three years ago.

00:39:22.000 The reason I say it's already late is look at Europe.

00:39:25.000 Almost gone.

00:39:26.000 And I don't want to sound all...

00:39:30.000 Negative, but I don't think they can easily take it back.

00:39:33.000 It's going to take a hell of a lot of work for Europe to go back to what it was.

00:39:37.000 Now, we woke up in America.

00:39:38.000 We started to, you know, let things be.

00:39:42.000 If you're not talking about it, at least we're not shutting other people either.

00:39:47.000 But the reason it's late is we are the last place for them to take over.

00:39:51.000 So our job is a little harder.

00:39:53.000 It is a little harder.

00:39:54.000 And so I want to take you back to, you know, we've talked about this and caught a lot of flack when Dr.

00:39:58.000 Ben Carson said, no, he doesn't think that a Muslim could be president of the United States.

00:40:03.000 He thinks it would be a problem because the Koran can't really be put alongside the Constitution, that the two are unjustifiable as far as...

00:40:14.000 Being put in the face of each other.

00:40:16.000 Irreconcilable.

00:40:17.000 Yeah, irreconcilable. 0.81

00:40:18.000 Sorry, I was looking for the right word and my brain is just mush because, you know, you put a pretty lady on screen and then both of us are dummies.

00:40:23.000 I don't know what happened. 0.62

00:40:24.000 Did you hear that and everyone said he was a racist and he was a bigot?

00:40:27.000 Did you hear that and say, well, of course.

00:40:31.000 Well, I actually, when he did say that, I was one of the witnesses who went ahead and signed his letter on the article he did.

00:40:38.000 I was one of the people who signed his statement as a witness.

00:40:43.000 Well, it's one of those things that seems so obvious, like you said, we need to ban Sharia law. 1.00

00:40:47.000 Well, we have constitutional law.

00:40:49.000 We have laws in the United States, which can't be reconciled with Sharia. 1.00

00:40:53.000 So it seems like...

00:40:54.000 It's already banned.

00:40:55.000 But if you say Sharia law needs to be banned, people go, how dare you?

00:40:59.000 No, it's already banned, many of the laws individually.

00:41:02.000 Well, here you can't beat your wife. 1.00

00:41:03.000 Sharia law says you can beat your wife. 1.00

00:41:05.000 Therefore, Sharia law is already illegal.

00:41:07.000 But no, it's not.

00:41:09.000 How many cases of honor killings did we have in the United States that the person walked away?

00:41:15.000 That's a good question, and I don't know the answer.

00:41:17.000 I'm betting you do.

00:41:18.000 We have four.

00:41:19.000 Four?

00:41:20.000 Like all, or last year?

00:41:23.000 No.

00:41:24.000 Four in total since this whole mess of Sharia law started spreading in US. Okay. 0.99

00:41:30.000 We had four people, a father and a son, a father, a brother, and another father who actually killed the girl in name of honor killing and they walked away free based on cultural differences.

00:41:45.000 Was that the actual legal status?

00:41:48.000 Yes.

00:41:49.000 Okay, they wouldn't say there wasn't enough evidence to convict.

00:41:52.000 If you actually look at the case, it was because of the cultural differences.

00:41:56.000 Culture, yes.

00:41:57.000 Good Lord.

00:41:58.000 So you can't say Sharia is banned here.

00:42:00.000 No.

00:42:00.000 It might be for us, I mean not even for me, but it isn't for, let's say, a woman who's here.

00:42:09.000 I do have a lot of Muslim women who want to leave and just have a new life in here in the U.S. and they are scared of it. 1.00

00:42:18.000 We are actually working on a shelter for them, believe it or not.

00:42:21.000 In US, they are afraid of leaving their husband and leaving Islam because they know if they get killed, nobody's going to do anything about it. 0.71

00:42:29.000 It's a cultural difference.

00:42:29.000 Right.

00:42:30.000 So they are still having Sharia law.

00:42:33.000 At the moment, it's only applying to Muslims.

00:42:36.000 Right.

00:42:37.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:42:38.000 And their goal is to apply it to all non-Muslims who they see as basically Muslim apostates.

00:42:43.000 So we had a woman on here, we called her Q, who had that situation. 0.99

00:42:46.000 She had to be anonymous and... 0.97

00:42:48.000 She's actually an American woman, too.

00:42:49.000 She's an American woman. 0.92

00:42:50.000 She was an American woman who converted to Islam and left, and she basically couldn't let us know who she was.

00:42:55.000 She said they would take the kids and she'd never see them again because of the way Islamic courts would work, and there's nothing she could do about it. 1.00

00:43:01.000 So not afraid of being killed, but she said, no, the law doesn't matter.

00:43:05.000 With these cultures, I would never see my children again. 1.00

00:43:08.000 So that is sad.

00:43:09.000 Are you able to set up a shelter?

00:43:12.000 Are you able to get some of these women out? 1.00

00:43:14.000 Or is it really hard because I've been brainwashed for so long?

00:43:18.000 Well, it isn't hard.

00:43:20.000 One of the things Live Up to Freedom does, we help people outside of America.

00:43:26.000 Basically, we have had cases where we rescued women from the Islamic Republic of Iran with their kid, if they did have any kids, and we take them out, you know, we smuggle them out to other countries and they go through the proper legal steps of, you know, asylum, they get refugee status, they go to other countries. 0.69

00:43:43.000 Inside U.S., however, we are struggling because our own laws are working against us right now.

00:43:50.000 Because legally, we cannot actually hide these people.

00:43:55.000 If they have kids, our law here says it's a kidnapping.

00:43:55.000 Right.

00:43:59.000 So you see how it works?

00:44:01.000 Yeah.

00:44:02.000 So we don't have the right to do that.

00:44:04.000 They're stopping us from having, we can't get the paperwork done to where we can actually rescue children and women from Sharia law because to our law, we are basically kidnapping the kids. 0.97

00:44:14.000 Wow.

00:44:16.000 That's another example of sort of leftist tolerance want-to-be pseudo-multiculturalism really hurting the most defenseless among us when we're supposed to be helping them.

00:44:26.000 In particular, Muslim women.

00:44:28.000 You know, they always tried out on Huffington Post, a woman, I'm a Muslim woman and I love wearing the hijab.

00:44:33.000 And now there are feminists for Islam all over campus. 1.00

00:44:37.000 And it really is sad that it drowns out the voices of people like you and people who you are helping.

00:44:42.000 Listen, we don't have on the schedule for much more today.

00:44:44.000 Will you come back on the program?

00:44:46.000 Because I want to get more into your personal life story next time.

00:44:48.000 Can we do that?

00:44:50.000 Absolutely.

00:44:51.000 Well, thank you so much.

00:44:52.000 I appreciate it.

00:44:52.000 Where's the best place for people to find you before we go?

00:44:55.000 They can find us on liveuptofreedom.com.

00:44:58.000 And that's the best place to find us, actually.

00:45:01.000 LiveUpToFreedom.com and I bet you she's going to get some suitors saying, hey, I'm a good Western male who will treat you correctly.

00:45:08.000 But she's a nice lady! 1.00

00:45:09.000 Don't make passes online, it's creepy.

00:45:10.000 Be lighter with Crowder.

00:45:11.000 Stay tuned. 0.97

00:45:12.000 Oh, s***! 0.98

00:45:35.000 Oh! 0.99

00:45:35.000 Oh! . . 0.99

00:45:42.000 I'm excited!

00:45:49.000 Glad to be back.

00:46:13.000 I was throwing dirt on you with a shovel.

00:46:14.000 This is the second hour.

00:46:16.000 I need to introduce you.

00:46:17.000 I am Steven Crowder, louderwithcrowder.com.

00:46:19.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is NotGayJarred, who is not gay. 0.81

00:46:22.000 Follow him on Twitter, at NotGayJarred.

00:46:24.000 Draw your own conclusions.

00:46:25.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:46:26.000 Don't speak.

00:46:27.000 We're honoring the Middle East.

00:46:29.000 That's fair.

00:46:29.000 Women are not allowed to speak under Islam.

00:46:31.000 As you just heard from Annie Cyrus, her...

00:46:34.000 What's her Twitter handle?

00:46:36.000 I'll have to bring it back up.

00:46:37.000 Annie, A-N-N-I underscore Cyrus.

00:46:39.000 I believe so.

00:46:41.000 Like the name of the man who arranged the whole meeting with the warriors in the park of the gangs.

00:46:46.000 Can you dig it?

00:46:48.000 Yes, Ms.

00:46:48.000 Cyrus, we can.

00:46:52.000 Well, we're going to have Gerald Morgan on in the middle of the break.

00:46:54.000 We're going to actually have a firearms dealer to come on to explain, just for a segment, exactly what the process is like, what kind of a firearm this shooter used.

00:47:02.000 Then we will have Dave Rubin to talk about gun control afterwards.

00:47:05.000 Oh! 0.60

00:47:05.000 I almost forgot. 0.60

00:47:06.000 Bob Ross teaches you how to draw Muhammad. 0.51

00:47:09.000 That's an incredible get right there.

00:47:10.000 It's an incredible get.

00:47:12.000 We do have some...

00:47:13.000 So Bob Ross, we want you to draw along with us live.

00:47:18.000 Send us your best Muhammad. 1.00

00:47:21.000 If you've written Muhammad, send us your best Muhammad. 1.00

00:47:25.000 Okay.

00:47:26.000 What did I say?

00:47:28.000 Written.

00:47:29.000 My brain is not in highest gear right now.

00:47:34.000 Okay.

00:47:36.000 We should do this probably right in this segment.

00:47:37.000 Okay, so let's do this.

00:47:39.000 We're going back to gun control.

00:47:41.000 Conan O'Brien, Samantha Bee, host of late night shows.

00:47:44.000 But of course, Samantha Bee got most of the credit because she has a uterus. 1.00

00:47:47.000 And so we all have to act as though what she says...

00:47:48.000 And a cool leather jacket.

00:47:50.000 And a cool leather jacket.

00:47:51.000 We all have to act as though what she says is somehow more important or more insightful.

00:47:55.000 But let's start with this.

00:47:56.000 We want to go through some myths that you may have been hearing on the late night show. 0.99

00:47:59.000 Or just, frankly, some stupid commentary. 0.99

00:48:03.000 Let's start with Conan O'Brien. 1.00

00:48:05.000 These are weapons of war and they have no place in civilian life.

00:48:10.000 I have tried to understand this issue from every side and it all comes down to this.

00:48:16.000 Nobody I know or have ever met in my entire life should have access to a weapon that can kill so many people so quickly.

00:48:29.000 And he gets that to thunderous applause.

00:48:31.000 Of course.

00:48:32.000 A couple of things.

00:48:33.000 Weapons of war.

00:48:34.000 So were all the weapons, even according to your own argument back then.

00:48:38.000 The muskets. 1.00

00:48:40.000 Those were weapons of war.

00:48:41.000 Weapons of war changed, just like the ink and quill became the printing press became your iPhone.

00:48:47.000 They've always been weapons of war.

00:48:48.000 They've just evolved.

00:48:50.000 You don't know anyone?

00:48:51.000 You've never known anyone who might have one?

00:48:53.000 Okay.

00:48:54.000 Check the security booth.

00:48:57.000 Over at the TBS studio.

00:48:58.000 I've been to the NBC studios many times.

00:49:00.000 They are armed to the teeth.

00:49:02.000 At the very least, they have semi-automatic pistols with high capacities.

00:49:07.000 I think, what are you getting out of a Glock?

00:49:09.000 Double stack 9mm?

00:49:10.000 Is it 17?

00:49:12.000 I want to say 17 plus 1.

00:49:14.000 17 plus 1.

00:49:14.000 And that's the most common, I believe.

00:49:16.000 Glock 19.

00:49:16.000 Isn't that the most common pistol for launchers?

00:49:18.000 The most popular pistol in the world.

00:49:19.000 Glock 17 would be the most common now.

00:49:22.000 Okay.

00:49:22.000 Police.

00:49:23.000 Police.

00:49:23.000 Same gun, just a little bigger size.

00:49:25.000 A little bigger size.

00:49:26.000 Still high capacity.

00:49:26.000 High capacity.

00:49:27.000 So, Conan, if you've never met anyone, I'm sure plenty of your friends do, they just don't talk to your arrogant ass, just ask security. 0.99

00:49:35.000 They have them all around you. 0.99

00:49:36.000 There's a start.

00:49:37.000 Okay, let's go to Samantha Bee, because everyone was praising her.

00:49:41.000 Let's roll the first clip. 0.80

00:49:43.000 Australia had five mass shootings between 1987 and 1996.

00:49:46.000 Then the public decided that was no fun.

00:49:50.000 Parliament passed strict gun laws, and they haven't had a mass shooting.

00:49:54.000 Okay.

00:49:55.000 First off, there are more guns in Australia than ever.

00:49:58.000 All right.

00:49:59.000 I have this up on the screen.

00:50:01.000 Gun-related homicides.

00:50:03.000 There's an argument as to whether it increased or not.

00:50:05.000 We wrote about this up at lottowithcrowder.com.

00:50:08.000 They're wondering, well, have gun-related homicides increased?

00:50:11.000 Okay, that's a debate, and some people will say they haven't increased, but it certainly hasn't curbed it dramatically.

00:50:17.000 You can use the term mass shooting, but most gun homicides are not mass shootings.

00:50:22.000 Here's something that is undeniable.

00:50:24.000 While gun violence went down, violence of every other kind, every variety possible, in Australia went up.

00:50:31.000 There you go.

00:50:32.000 Just scrolling.

00:50:33.000 Homicide, sexual assault, robbery, kidnapping, abduction.

00:50:37.000 Look at this.

00:50:38.000 Whereas in the United States, crime has gone down.

00:50:40.000 In Australia, it has skyrocketed.

00:50:42.000 Who'd have thought that taking away guns from the good guys could result in people being sitting ducks?

00:50:48.000 What a crazy thought.

00:50:49.000 So when they point to Australia, which, by the way, it's also very telling.

00:50:52.000 When they point to Australia, a mandatory buyback is they come take your guns.

00:50:58.000 That's not gun control capacity.

00:50:59.000 They take your guns away.

00:51:01.000 So understand that's what Samantha Bee wants to do here.

00:51:03.000 Let's go to the next clip.

00:51:04.000 Australia doesn't have a Second Amendment.

00:51:06.000 Love you, Madison. 0.99

00:51:07.000 Congratulations on your Tony, but you really fucked us with that one. 0.98

00:51:11.000 We can't constitutionally get rid of all guns, but can't we get semi-automatic assault rifles out of the hands of civilians? 0.99

00:51:20.000 A couple of things.

00:51:21.000 They always use the term semi-automatic.

00:51:22.000 Again, security at Samantha Bee's studio, every single firearm there is a semi-automatic.

00:51:28.000 We'll bring an FFL dealer on afterwards. 0.99

00:51:30.000 You just know instantly how dumb someone is. 1.00

00:51:32.000 You know instantly that this person is a dumbass. 1.00

00:51:34.000 And I don't just say that flippantly, like, oh, stupid because they're liberal. 1.00

00:51:37.000 If you use the term semi-automatic... 0.99

00:51:40.000 Any basic self-defense handgun is a semi-automatic.

00:51:43.000 As a matter of fact, most revolvers act as a semi-automatic.

00:51:46.000 Technically, they're not.

00:51:47.000 They're a double action.

00:51:48.000 Semi-automatic means pull a trigger, one trigger, one bullet.

00:51:51.000 Now, a semi-automatic means that it automatically reloads the next bullet, the chamber, right?

00:51:56.000 Racks the chamber.

00:51:58.000 Revolver does the same thing.

00:51:59.000 It just doesn't need to reload because the chamber switches over.

00:52:01.000 But effectively, it acts as a semi-automatic.

00:52:03.000 One trigger pull, one bullet.

00:52:04.000 So when they say that, they're deliberately trying to mislead you.

00:52:07.000 Go to the next clip.

00:52:15.000 Sam B wants to take your guns away.

00:52:17.000 Yes.

00:52:18.000 The ones that mow down a room full of people in seconds.

00:52:21.000 Yes, I do want to take those guns away. 0.99

00:52:24.000 These high capacity penis substitutes are a shitty choice for hunting and home protection, but perfect for portable mayhem. 1.00

00:52:32.000 Okay, a couple of things. 0.99

00:52:33.000 I love how she uses Slate right there, unironically. 1.00

00:52:36.000 You look at her, and you look at Conan, and you look at Seth Meyers.

00:52:40.000 Slate, Salon, Mother Jones, Vox.

00:52:43.000 Just so you know, when these people claim that we're just entertainers, we're not biased.

00:52:48.000 Right here, the sources I have are New Yorker.

00:52:51.000 What is it?

00:52:51.000 New Yorker?

00:52:53.000 Washington Post.

00:52:54.000 These are the sources I'm going to be using for you here.

00:52:57.000 She uses Slate unironically. 0.99

00:52:59.000 That should be your first tip-off right there.

00:53:02.000 Bad for home defense?

00:53:04.000 Bad for hunting?

00:53:05.000 Samantha Bee, when have you done either of those?

00:53:07.000 The reason the AR-15, which wasn't used in this attack, by the way, is so popular is because it's very easy to learn and very easy to fire for women.

00:53:14.000 Very low recoil, very accurate, very easy, very reliable.

00:53:18.000 Hunting, I'm not a hunter.

00:53:20.000 I've seen people hunt with it.

00:53:21.000 Is it the most effective hunting rifle?

00:53:23.000 Probably not.

00:53:24.000 The more effective hunting rifles would mow through 50 people.

00:53:28.000 That's hyperbole.

00:53:30.000 At least 5 or 6 before the round even stops.

00:53:32.000 The AR-15 is effectively a glorified.22 with more powder behind it.

00:53:37.000 It's not a big round.

00:53:41.000 Why?

00:53:41.000 Because the United States military, they have the M16 variant, which is an automatic, which is not legal unless you have a Class 3 license, is very easy to shoot and keep on target because of low recoil, because it's not a super powerful round.

00:53:51.000 So again, she has absolutely no idea.

00:53:52.000 It's a crappy decision for home.

00:53:54.000 It's a great tool for home defense.

00:53:56.000 Hunting?

00:53:57.000 You've never hunted. 1.00

00:53:58.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:53:58.000 Next clip. 1.00

00:53:59.000 It turns up at gay nightclubs, movie theaters, an elementary school, colleges, even an office party with coworkers.

00:54:06.000 It's nicknamed America's Gun, and unlike handguns, it can be bought in Florida with no waiting period.

00:54:13.000 First off, that has nothing to do with anything.

00:54:15.000 Many states don't have any waiting period on handguns at all.

00:54:18.000 Or rifles.

00:54:20.000 Again, and it's not used in most mass shootings, by the way.

00:54:24.000 The AR-15 is not used in most...

00:54:25.000 Rifles are used in a very small amount of homicides, certainly public mass homicides.

00:54:29.000 It's almost always handguns, which are just as effective.

00:54:31.000 Probably could have gone in there, two 17-round magazines.

00:54:34.000 You could have had a 25-round magazine and your handgun replaced and would have done the exact same thing.

00:54:38.000 Waiting periods.

00:54:38.000 It's interesting you talk about that.

00:54:39.000 We want to talk about freedom.

00:54:40.000 You're a big, strong woman, right?

00:54:41.000 You're fighting for feminist rights. 1.00

00:54:42.000 Here's a woman who died. 0.67

00:54:43.000 Carol Brown.

00:54:44.000 I've got it up on my screen.

00:54:45.000 You know why she died?

00:54:46.000 Because she was waiting to buy a firearm.

00:54:48.000 To defend herself from a crazy ex-lover who got to her before the waiting period was over.

00:54:53.000 Here's the deal. 0.96

00:54:55.000 I made it an AR-15 because of angry Muslims don't like free speech. 1.00

00:54:59.000 Mark Stein, Salman Rushdie, I'm right there on the care list next to them.

00:55:02.000 She needed it because of an angry lover.

00:55:04.000 Lots of people need different firearms for different reasons, and you don't know those reasons.

00:55:09.000 Therefore, you don't have the right to infringe on their freedoms and their right to protect themselves.

00:55:13.000 Here's something important.

00:55:14.000 Many Americans live 20 minutes away from police departments in this country.

00:55:17.000 Okay, 20 minutes away.

00:55:19.000 So you can sit in your Upper East Side or Upper West Side penthouse or your L.A. apartment with your doorman building and talk about, gee, how great you are, even though a woman's getting the hell raped out of her down the block by a gang who went into her house because they're 20 minutes away from a police call, but you did the tolerant thing.

00:55:37.000 People die during waiting periods.

00:55:39.000 Often when people are buying firearms, it's a necessity.

00:55:44.000 Next clip.

00:55:45.000 So until we as a nation find the political will to reject a mass shooting per day as the price of freedom, I'm just gonna pray.

00:55:54.000 Are you there, God?

00:55:56.000 It's me, Sam.

00:55:57.000 Please bless the victims and their friends and families in their time of unspeakable pain.

00:56:03.000 Give us the courage to say no more.

00:56:06.000 And while you're at it, please send the NRA a plague of boils.

00:56:11.000 Amen.

00:56:13.000 Okay, here let's talk about the NRA. People love to act as though they're like Bernie Sanders and the Socialists and we're the party of the people and democracy and lobbyists.

00:56:20.000 Guess what?

00:56:20.000 The NRA is the one organization in this country that is largely funded by small individual donations.

00:56:26.000 Their biggest funder, I have it right here, $175 million of the NRA's annual budget.

00:56:30.000 And it is huge.

00:56:31.000 50% of that is from contributions.

00:56:34.000 27% comes from other donors.

00:56:39.000 The majority of NRA funding comes from people who are members.

00:57:04.000 Which is about a fifteenth of what, say, the National Association of Realtors spends, or big unions, where the dues are mandatory.

00:57:10.000 The NRA's biggest asset isn't cash, but the devotion of its members.

00:57:14.000 They're politically active.

00:57:15.000 They don't even have the money that big unions or big real estate or big banks or big telephone companies do, but liberals want to single them out because they are the organization, they are a lobbyist, as a voice of the people who want to keep their fundamental human rights. 0.98

00:57:28.000 Keep going to war with them, Samantha Bee, you arrogant wench. 1.00

00:57:32.000 For breaking news on Louder with Crowder, I'm Perry Mathis. 0.97

00:57:58.000 We take you to our on-the-field reporter, Jimmy, in Orlando, who has interviews with families of the affected victims after the horrendous tragedy.

00:58:09.000 Jimmy! 0.85

00:58:10.000 Yes, Perry, I'm here with Eric, who was actually in the club, and Eric, thank you for taking the time.

00:58:18.000 We know how hard this is.

00:58:20.000 Is there anything you can tell us that maybe the media is not talking about that could give us some insight into the situation?

00:58:26.000 Again, we're really appreciative of your time.

00:58:30.000 Yeah, you know, well, the guy went in there and obviously it was a horrendous scene.

00:58:35.000 He continually kept yelling Allahu Akbar and it's a tragedy all around.

00:58:40.000 Now, Jimmy, did he just say the man was yelling Allahu Akbar?

00:58:45.000 No, Perry, that's not what he said.

00:58:48.000 It sounded pretty clearly like that's what he said.

00:58:51.000 No, Perry, he was yelling, I love my AR. Well, there you have it.

00:58:55.000 We'll keep you abreast as this story unfolds.

00:58:58.000 And we gather more information, hoping to prevent a tragedy like this in the future.

00:59:04.000 For louder or louder, I am Perry Malison.

00:59:06.000 Alright, glad to be back glad to be back with one of our favorite guests, which is...

00:59:28.000 We've had him on quite a bit.

00:59:28.000 Great guest.

00:59:29.000 All the time.

00:59:30.000 You know him.

00:59:31.000 He needs to get a better Twitter handle, though.

00:59:32.000 He is a rocket scientist, neurosurgeon.

00:59:35.000 You know what else he added?

00:59:36.000 What?

00:59:37.000 Doctorate in geology.

00:59:39.000 Made billions off of fracking.

00:59:39.000 Really?

00:59:42.000 Just since the last time we had him on.

00:59:43.000 Then made billions off of lobbying against fracking.

00:59:46.000 So, all of these things, GMorganJr, at GMorganJr on the Twitters.

00:59:51.000 Gerald Morgan, thank you for being with us, sir.

00:59:53.000 Absolutely.

00:59:54.000 I think they call that playing both sides.

00:59:56.000 Well, you're hedging your bets.

00:59:58.000 There's money to be made everywhere, my friend.

00:59:59.000 Everywhere.

01:00:00.000 There is money to be made everywhere.

01:00:02.000 Not so much in apologetics and theology, which is, of course, your main realm of expertise.

01:00:07.000 So, we wanted to have you on this week.

01:00:09.000 We had Annie Cyrus, just, my God, fascinating.

01:00:12.000 If you go back and listen to it, child bride, just awful story. 1.00

01:00:16.000 Yeah.

01:00:17.000 Crappy upbringing.

01:00:18.000 She was almost a little too close to the forest to see the trees.

01:00:21.000 Pretty spunky.

01:00:22.000 Pretty rambunctious.

01:00:23.000 And she got pretty mad.

01:00:24.000 So Gerald's a little more mellow.

01:00:26.000 So right now, obviously, the move is to gun control.

01:00:28.000 People are saying Islam has nothing to do with...

01:00:30.000 Gerald?

01:00:32.000 Set us straight.

01:00:32.000 Does Islam have anything to do with Islam?

01:00:35.000 Islam has everything to do with Islam. 0.96

01:00:37.000 I think violence has a lot to do with Islam. 1.00

01:00:40.000 And there's a lot of people out there who ask that question.

01:00:43.000 Is it really an Islamic thing?

01:00:45.000 Or is it just people that have perverted? 0.77

01:00:47.000 No, no.

01:00:48.000 It really is.

01:00:49.000 Over a hundred times they're urged to be violent in the Quran and in the Hadith.

01:00:56.000 Which is, just think of it like a Bible commentary, except maybe with a little bit more importance to Muslims as a Hadith.

01:01:02.000 Do all schools of Islam? 0.97

01:01:08.000 Absolutely.

01:01:11.000 So it's basically like saying there are five or six that are very well respected and kind of accepted hadith.

01:01:19.000 So you can even quote from those, even if you want to limit the pool just a little bit just to make sure everybody's happy, and you can quote from those and be just fine.

01:01:26.000 But I've got, I mean, literally right in front of me right now, I've got just list verse after verse after surah after surah in the Quran that talks about this.

01:01:35.000 And I will concede something.

01:01:36.000 Context is always very important when you're talking about either biblical verses, because, you know, we're not supposed to be snake handlers and see if we can survive a poisonous bite or something like that.

01:01:45.000 Right.

01:01:48.000 It still encourages people to go out and commit violence, even in the historical context, not only just the verses around it, but in the historical context as well.

01:01:58.000 So a lot of people will say, well, no, some of the stuff that you're talking about, jihad, is kind of an internal conflict.

01:02:03.000 There's plenty of surahs that basically blow that right out of the water because they're talking about going out and fighting. 0.90

01:02:08.000 If it's internal, you don't have to go out and fight.

01:02:10.000 Let me ask you this, because I know we have a lot, and we've done videos with these verses, but the arguments that we get are, well, there are plenty of verses in the Quran that tell you to love, to not harm any innocent people.

01:02:22.000 The grass, especially, which I find very comforting.

01:02:24.000 Yes, Muhammad was very concerned with, he was, I think he was a botanist.

01:02:28.000 He was ahead of his time.

01:02:30.000 He was ahead of his time.

01:02:31.000 Animals, too.

01:02:32.000 You cannot scare a cow with a knife.

01:02:34.000 I mean, that's how that whole goat rumor got started.

01:02:35.000 But with an AR-15, that's totally okay.

01:02:38.000 Right.

01:02:38.000 Use an AR-15 to scare the cat off.

01:02:39.000 But what do you say to people who say that?

01:02:41.000 Who would say...

01:02:42.000 And I know this.

01:02:43.000 I think I know the answer to it.

01:02:45.000 But I know there is a very specific philosophy behind it in the mainstream schools of Islam.

01:02:51.000 Because Mohammed did say some nice stuff, too.

01:02:53.000 Absolutely.

01:02:53.000 But if you are using those things to say that Islam doesn't promote violence in any way, shape, or form, you're just flat out lying.

01:03:01.000 By the way, that is an acceptable thing to do to infidels. 1.00

01:03:05.000 You can lie to infidels, and it's encouraged. 1.00

01:03:08.000 There's also something called abrogation.

01:03:08.000 Don't worry about it.

01:03:10.000 So you've got, in the Quran, in Surah 244 and 191 through 193, you've got certain things that are being said here.

01:03:19.000 If he says something later on, say in 474, if he says something different, it actually supersedes what he said earlier.

01:03:28.000 And so you can quote from the beginning kind of in the peaceful times is kind of what they say.

01:03:32.000 In the beginning of the Quran, it's a little bit more peaceful.

01:03:34.000 It's before he started doing a lot of the stuff that we talk about where there's a lot of warfare and he's kicking people out of their own villages and slaughtering and all this kind of stuff.

01:03:41.000 And they'll say, oh, no, no, no, this is the peaceful part of the Quran.

01:03:45.000 And they'll just quote those passages that help their cause.

01:03:49.000 They won't tell you that later on things change.

01:03:51.000 It's kind of like David Bowie.

01:03:53.000 You're talking about Suffrage City. 0.62

01:03:54.000 You're talking about changes.

01:03:56.000 And they want to ignore everything after China Girl.

01:03:58.000 Or it's like after Labyrinth crystallizes Bowie in a rough era.

01:04:03.000 That happened, too.

01:04:04.000 Maybe he was just unstable and he was actually transgender, just was not understood by society. 0.99

01:04:08.000 Don't make a Bowie joke. 0.86

01:04:09.000 No, that's a Muhammad joke. 0.99

01:04:10.000 Oh, Muhammad, Muhammad. 0.99

01:04:11.000 No, not Bowie.

01:04:12.000 No, no, you can do whatever you want with Muhammad, but Bowie, you're about to cross some lines. 0.53

01:04:15.000 Serious lines.

01:04:16.000 No, and I say that because obviously he's passed, but I'm a Bowie fan, but there was some later contributions to his catalog that just were frankly embarrassing.

01:04:24.000 So it would be like saying, okay, David Bowie said, ignore all my previous work, erase it, because this is the work I need to be known for.

01:04:32.000 That's the theology of Islam, right? 0.94

01:04:34.000 Muhammad was the quintessential politician.

01:04:36.000 He spoke for whatever needed to be said at the time to benefit his cause.

01:04:41.000 So when everything was peaceful and everything was cool, hey, be peaceful.

01:04:44.000 Don't hurt the grass, the cattle, everything else.

01:04:46.000 But when all of a sudden he's starting to be rejected and he has to move into another part of the country, he has to go there, he starts to get a little violent.

01:04:57.000 He starts to raid caravans so that he can make money, and then he starts to kick the Meccan adversaries out of their own city. 0.97

01:05:03.000 Completely did it.

01:05:04.000 Got rid of everybody.

01:05:06.000 So it says that there's, I mean, and you can read this, it's all throughout the internet, even in context, guys.

01:05:12.000 Look at the Quran. 0.82

01:05:13.000 It is not a peaceful book at all.

01:05:15.000 Well, and historical accounts of, you know, atheists like to say there's more historical evidence of Muhammad than Jesus, you know, just because you're talking about someone more recent.

01:05:21.000 But that's not to say, you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

01:05:24.000 There are historical accounts of Muhammad, not a good guy, right?

01:05:28.000 I mean, this is not just from the Quran.

01:05:30.000 Historians acknowledge these things.

01:05:32.000 If you could separate some of the earlier stuff Muhammad did, reasonable guy to kind of build your stuff off of if you're trying to build a religion or trying to build some kind of a culture. 0.97

01:05:42.000 Not all that bad.

01:05:43.000 It's when you get kind of halfway through his life and his ministry, quote-unquote, that things start to— Well, not the kind of guy I want to have as a pillar for the next door neighbor's faith.

01:06:07.000 That's the concern.

01:06:09.000 Well, and I think that's something that people are lying to themselves about.

01:06:12.000 They don't know their own religions.

01:06:13.000 We've talked about this a lot, but the big thing that you need to know is that in the Bible, there are accounts of violence that happened, right?

01:06:20.000 There are difficult passages within the Bible about historical events.

01:06:24.000 In the Quran, it's left open-ended. 0.84

01:06:27.000 Fighting is prescribed for you in the Quran 2, 2-16.

01:06:31.000 That's a different statement than saying David went in and destroyed the Philistines or whatever, whoever he happened to be fighting against at the time.

01:06:38.000 That's a totally different statement.

01:06:39.000 Right.

01:06:40.000 Well, we have to go to a break.

01:06:41.000 We'll bring you on after this to be continued.

01:06:43.000 Sorry, I haven't been saying much because it's very interesting.

01:06:45.000 I always love hearing.

01:06:45.000 And he has a soothing voice.

01:06:47.000 He should be in my seat here hosting.

01:06:49.000 I don't know when I'm doing this.

01:06:50.000 I'm a hack.

01:06:50.000 The guy's a neurosurgeon.

01:06:52.000 Gerald Morgan Jr.

01:06:53.000 talking more about Muhammad after this.

01:06:55.000 Jihad! 0.98

01:06:56.000 Oh, God.

01:06:57.000 Well, there you are.

01:07:14.000 You're still here.

01:07:15.000 You're watching this podcast on YouTube, likely.

01:07:18.000 Did you miss the live stream Thursday nights at 8 p.m.

01:07:20.000 on YouTube or Facebook?

01:07:21.000 Either way, you can also subscribe on iTunes, SoundCloud, for the audio version with additional commercials, and take it with you on the go.

01:07:27.000 Or louderwithcryder.com, which is mobile-friendly, so you can take it with you wherever.

01:07:32.000 Isn't that right, Hopper?

01:07:32.000 It's pretty cool.

01:07:37.000 He likes it.

01:07:38.000 Okay, but you're driving later.

01:07:39.000 later that's enough.

01:07:41.000 Thank you.

01:08:10.000 There's something creepy about you doing that.

01:08:12.000 I can't put my finger on it.

01:08:13.000 We have to do a lip dub in the car when we make our announcement.

01:08:17.000 At G. Morgan Jr., he was there.

01:08:18.000 Hey, Gerald, I want to ask you something.

01:08:20.000 Yes.

01:08:21.000 So this Talk Islam putz has been going back and forth but won't debate.

01:08:25.000 We've had a rash of people refusing to debate.

01:08:29.000 And I respect Zach Ford for coming on and doing it, but we had Michael Woods Jr.

01:08:32.000 said no one would debate him.

01:08:34.000 And we said, you know what?

01:08:34.000 We didn't even say debate.

01:08:35.000 We said, well, we'll have you on and be discussion and be productive.

01:08:37.000 He said, sure.

01:08:38.000 And now he is pushing out this GoFundMe is the only way he'll come on.

01:08:42.000 He said, anytime, anywhere.

01:08:43.000 D.L. Hughley moved.

01:08:44.000 To be fair, I think he'll probably come back on.

01:08:46.000 Talk Islam won't debate. 0.97

01:08:47.000 He talks about how Muhammad said, do not harm any innocent.

01:08:51.000 Okay, that, and they often use the term people of the book.

01:08:54.000 So I don't want to, we can't take super long with this.

01:08:56.000 People of the book, Gerald, refers to whom?

01:09:01.000 People of the book actually refers to Christians.

01:09:03.000 So he's referring to Christians and essentially Jews by extension, because he was rejected by both of those communities initially.

01:09:10.000 The thing you have to understand, though, is that there's a little bit of a fine line here.

01:09:14.000 You either convert, you Right. 0.62

01:09:22.000 There may be some verses that say if these guys stop fighting against you, then you can leave them alone.

01:09:27.000 And there are some.

01:09:28.000 And they'll quote those as saying, hey, if these guys stop fighting against us, it was all defensive anyway, and that's not true.

01:09:32.000 Right.

01:09:33.000 Then we can leave them alone.

01:09:34.000 But that's not true.

01:09:34.000 It actually involves conversion as well so that it's only worshiping Allah.

01:09:38.000 And if you don't worship Allah in the end, you get killed. 0.98

01:09:40.000 Look at every country in the world that are dominated by Muslims. 1.00

01:09:43.000 Christians can't just live there and exist. 0.94

01:09:45.000 There's incredible persecution. 0.69

01:09:47.000 They're treated horribly.

01:09:47.000 No, well, you're absolutely right.

01:09:49.000 I wanted to ask that because people in the book, that is true.

01:09:51.000 But like you said, you go back to abrogation.

01:09:52.000 Not only that, but, well, it's one of those situations.

01:09:58.000 We were talking with Annie Cyrus.

01:09:59.000 She did enlighten us on something.

01:10:02.000 She said, you know, it's not like Christianity or Judaism or anything else where you convert to the faith.

01:10:07.000 You're all seen as people born Muslim and you're seen as an apostate, period.

01:10:12.000 And when you understand that that's punishable by death anywhere, that's the one thing that even most moderate Muslims, a huge portion, you're talking hundreds of millions believe in death for apostasy.

01:10:21.000 A lot of them probably don't consider everyone who's not Muslim an apostate, but that is the actual doctrine of Islam.

01:10:28.000 That to me was fascinating, and I think people miss it.

01:10:31.000 Again, the context is kind of like the Second Amendment.

01:10:33.000 We were talking about this earlier.

01:10:34.000 When taken literally, it's very clear.

01:10:36.000 When taken contextually, it gets even more clear.

01:10:40.000 I feel like it's that way with Muhammad and the Quran. 0.93

01:10:43.000 You take a verse and go, that seems really violent.

01:10:44.000 Well, hold on, let's look at the context.

01:10:45.000 Like you said, timeline matters.

01:10:47.000 Abrogation matters.

01:10:48.000 People of the book, that term matters.

01:10:49.000 They see everyone as apostate.

01:10:51.000 The more context you add, the worse it gets.

01:10:54.000 Exactly.

01:10:54.000 It just gets worse and worse.

01:10:56.000 There are no innocents, essentially.

01:10:58.000 Innocence basically refers to people who believe in Allah the way they want them to.

01:11:02.000 Everybody else falls outside of that category, like you said, and they're apostates, and therefore they're subject to a completely different set of rules as to how you treat them.

01:11:09.000 And I would rather be grass at that point.

01:11:12.000 Or a cow.

01:11:15.000 I'm dressing up in a grass suit and walking around.

01:11:17.000 Basically, Gerald dressed as grass as Gumby.

01:11:20.000 That's really what it is.

01:11:21.000 My grass Gumby, guys.

01:11:22.000 Don't hurt me!

01:11:23.000 Well, it really is true. 0.73

01:11:25.000 It's one of those things where there's so much misinformation that comes out with this.

01:11:28.000 I'm amazed as to how quickly we pivoted away from Islam at all and right into gun control. 0.69

01:11:33.000 It frustrates me and you to no end.

01:11:36.000 The first thing that we're having to do is to talk to people about the reason that it's a good idea that we are armed as a population.

01:11:43.000 I understand, or at least have the right to be armed.

01:11:47.000 And then Rolling Stone comes out with this article, some constitutional professor saying that we should repeal the Second Amendment, that it's time not to try to fix it, just to repeal it outright.

01:11:55.000 Right.

01:11:55.000 And get rid of it, that we don't need guns.

01:11:55.000 Right.

01:11:57.000 And I'm like, man, you're an idiot. 1.00

01:11:58.000 First of all, the biggest problem that we face on this planet is radical Islam and not even radical. 1.00

01:12:04.000 It's Islam. 0.99

01:12:05.000 The biggest problem. 0.99

01:12:06.000 Well, radical Islam, as far as death, murder rates, terrorism and then modern Islam as far as abuse of human rights. 0.99

01:12:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:12:13.000 I mean, put those things together, and there really is no bigger threat to society today.

01:12:17.000 And the thing that you want to talk about is a scary-looking rifle, and that's the problem today.

01:12:22.000 One that wasn't even used.

01:12:24.000 Exactly.

01:12:24.000 AR-15 wasn't even used.

01:12:25.000 They just say AR-15 style.

01:12:26.000 Granted, you can get to a technicality, but it's very clearly one of them.

01:12:30.000 It's a different weapon.

01:12:30.000 Can we call it?

01:12:31.000 It's a different weapon.

01:12:31.000 You know what it is?

01:12:32.000 I always forget.

01:12:34.000 MCX? MCR? MXC or whatever, yeah, something like that.

01:12:37.000 Very similar, but yeah, it's not what people would technically just say AR-15, but they want to repeat that, AR-15, AR-15.

01:12:43.000 I just wish they would repeat Muhammad and Muhammad and Islam and the verses so people could know.

01:12:48.000 Yeah, all these people hear the name AR-15, they know what that is.

01:12:50.000 Not a single one knows what Sir is.

01:12:52.000 Not a single one knows what Hadith is.

01:12:53.000 Not a single one knows who Aisha is.

01:12:55.000 None of these people.

01:12:57.000 And that is what is...

01:12:57.000 No.

01:12:58.000 It's incredibly alarming, and it really is...

01:13:01.000 I think there's rejection as far as political correctness, but the media will go down kicking and screaming.

01:13:07.000 You know, we just did this with Samantha Bee, Conan O'Brien.

01:13:09.000 I don't know anyone who would need that kind of a gun.

01:13:11.000 Well, fine, you don't.

01:13:13.000 I do.

01:13:15.000 Because of Islam. 1.00

01:13:15.000 You know what I do? 1.00

01:13:16.000 I'm on CARES list.

01:13:18.000 Mark Stein, Salman Rushdie. 0.97

01:13:20.000 These people are on lists where Islamists try to kill them. 0.69

01:13:23.000 They need an AR-15.

01:13:25.000 And you can't account for every single reason why someone might need it.

01:13:28.000 So, you have to err on the side of freedom.

01:13:31.000 Which, of course, is...

01:13:31.000 Well, you have to come up with the reason why I don't need it.

01:13:33.000 That's how this works.

01:13:34.000 That's how our systems of freedoms work.

01:13:36.000 That is due process.

01:13:38.000 They haven't come up with a good one yet.

01:13:38.000 No.

01:13:40.000 They definitely will.

01:13:40.000 And they'll try.

01:13:41.000 But I think one more thing to mention, too, is that when President Obama came on and started talking about the shooting, obviously, you and I, we want to have compassion for the people that have been shot.

01:13:51.000 We want to care for the people.

01:13:52.000 Hold on one second.

01:13:53.000 Jared, put the camera on yourself.

01:13:54.000 Jared doesn't put the camera on himself one time because he's sitting here, he's putzing around, and he's yawning.

01:13:54.000 Stop yawning.

01:13:58.000 Are you yawning?

01:14:00.000 He was just yawning at what you were saying, Gerald.

01:14:02.000 Oh, there we go.

01:14:04.000 Thanks.

01:14:04.000 I'm sorry.

01:14:05.000 Continue.

01:14:05.000 He said he refused to say the word Islamic terrorism, and people called him out for that.

01:14:10.000 And he came out with something that I thought was better suited for a high school cafeteria smackdown than any press conference a president should ever give.

01:14:17.000 And it was that these aren't these magic words or this magic phrase that all of a sudden allows us to fight the problem.

01:14:23.000 It's like a doctor walking in, seeing you have a broken arm and saying, you know, you might have a strain. 1.00

01:14:23.000 And I'm like, you idiot. 1.00

01:14:27.000 I'm going to just give you some Tylenol and I'll send you home. 1.00

01:14:30.000 You diagnose the problem incorrectly and you can't fight the problem.

01:14:33.000 He doesn't realize we have an enemy.

01:14:35.000 And until you realize you have an enemy that is actually trying to destroy you, you can't fight that.

01:14:39.000 That being said, what you've just said, and we've talked about this, is much more nuanced.

01:14:43.000 I do get aggravated when you hear other conservatives out there just going, why won't he say radical Islamic terrorism?

01:14:47.000 And they don't expand on it.

01:14:48.000 It's like, that's not the point.

01:14:50.000 The point is he won't say it.

01:14:51.000 Why?

01:14:52.000 Because he doesn't want to acknowledge the problem because he wants to appease these people in our world standing as opposed to actually upholding the Constitution.

01:14:59.000 But people focus so much on, so then if he says radical Islamic terrorism once, your argument goes out.

01:15:04.000 Kind of like with the gun issue.

01:15:05.000 A good guy with a gun would have stopped it.

01:15:06.000 Well, maybe.

01:15:07.000 Maybe not.

01:15:08.000 But that's not, you can't, because guess what?

01:15:09.000 You're going to have a story where a good guy with a gun gets gunned down regardless and there goes your argument.

01:15:13.000 That's not the argument.

01:15:15.000 And so it makes it hard for people like you and what we do try and do on the show to actually present why that matters.

01:15:21.000 Because you hear those sound bites all the time.

01:15:23.000 Well, he did.

01:15:25.000 The problem is he's not really acknowledging the threat.

01:15:27.000 Right.

01:15:27.000 It's that second part.

01:15:29.000 It's the making sure that you diagnose the problem correctly so that you can fight it.

01:15:32.000 That's why it's important.

01:15:33.000 It's not the verbiage or anything else.

01:15:35.000 It's probably a couple of guys who have hijacked the faith and they're going nuts.

01:15:38.000 Not an ideological problem.

01:15:39.000 That's worldwide.

01:15:41.000 But, you know, even if you don't have ISIS next to your little Desk.

01:15:41.000 Right.

01:15:46.000 Right.

01:15:47.000 Deal.

01:15:48.000 It took a while for you to look for that word.

01:15:50.000 Yeah, I still know the word.

01:15:50.000 Where's the word?

01:15:51.000 I lost the word.

01:15:52.000 Desk.

01:15:53.000 You do the name.

01:15:53.000 Desk.

01:15:55.000 Name.

01:15:56.000 So, okay.

01:15:57.000 How do you fix it?

01:15:58.000 Can you?

01:15:59.000 What's the Islam issue?

01:16:00.000 How do you deal with radical...

01:16:00.000 Because that's what people say.

01:16:01.000 How do you fix it?

01:16:03.000 I think the first step is to admit you have a problem.

01:16:06.000 I mean, just in any situation that you're in, you have to realize, okay, there's something going on here.

01:16:11.000 It's not just random violence.

01:16:13.000 It's not driven by the economics of the region.

01:16:15.000 It's not driven by global warming, which some people say.

01:16:18.000 Not driven by a lack of resources, lack of water, though it is hot and there is little water over there.

01:16:23.000 But it is actually an ideology that wants to see us destroyed.

01:16:27.000 And it's a significant number of people, a very large portion of this population on the planet, wants this country and others like us to go away.

01:16:36.000 And they're actively trying to make that happen.

01:16:39.000 Okay, first thing, just admit that.

01:16:41.000 Admit that, and then we can start taking the next steps and going, okay, well, what is next?

01:16:45.000 How do we start to change maybe our perception to some of these people?

01:16:49.000 Not doing things that maybe say I'm sorry for certain things that have happened in the past.

01:16:53.000 That's not what I'm talking about.

01:16:54.000 How can we do things that show them they won't get away with this here?

01:16:56.000 How can we do things that keep people that have these kinds of ties from being able to get weapons in the first place like this?

01:17:04.000 Are you asking questions or are you going to answer them?

01:17:06.000 I'm not saying that I have all the answers for the next steps, but we can't even go to these next steps.

01:17:10.000 We can't even ask these questions and have great people, great minds come together and say, yes, this is the way forward.

01:17:15.000 Now, it is possible for Islam to evolve.

01:17:18.000 You've seen that with some religions, even if they're getting away from the true religion, right?

01:17:22.000 You have some American Muslims who have rejected that.

01:17:24.000 That is true.

01:17:25.000 Is it true Islam? 0.99

01:17:26.000 You can argue probably not.

01:17:27.000 And, of course, compared with everyone in the Islamic world, no, not really. 0.52

01:17:30.000 But...

01:17:32.000 There needs to be a civil war in Islam. 1.00

01:17:34.000 And it can't be done without all these people who claim they are the silent majority.

01:17:39.000 They need to stand up.

01:17:40.000 And I'm not just saying...

01:17:41.000 Again, it's very simplified when people say, well, why don't you condemn the terrorist attacks?

01:17:45.000 And then if a Muslim condemns it, then your argument goes away.

01:17:48.000 Talk Islam has yet to condemn the terrorist attacks.

01:17:50.000 25 tweets on how great Muhammad Ali was.

01:17:52.000 Nothing on Orlando at the point of this recording.

01:17:55.000 It's not about...

01:17:57.000 Condemning it. 0.94

01:17:58.000 It is, we need Muslims.

01:18:00.000 Okay, this is what you need to do.

01:18:01.000 We need you to come out and not only condemn it, that's not it.

01:18:03.000 We need you to take up arms, join the militaries in our country or the countries where you live to fight against Islam. 1.00

01:18:09.000 Just like people petition their representatives to fight against gun control or to fight against Flint Tapwater, Muslims need to start electing, taking part in the political process, and pushing their representatives to fight against Sharia law, to fight against the abuses of women and children that take place right here on our own soil.

01:18:27.000 They need to publicly reject and actively fight against any sect that tries to implement Sharia law. 0.63

01:18:32.000 They need to publicly reject and actively fight against any government that has death for apostasy.

01:18:37.000 Well, what does that do?

01:18:39.000 That means, Muslims, it's on you now to fight Egypt, to fight Turkey, to fight Iran, to fight Iraq, to fight Hamas. 0.91

01:18:43.000 That's on you.

01:18:44.000 If you really have a problem with it, we need to see, you know, listen, bloodiest war in American history was to free the slaves, right?

01:18:51.000 Because people had to say this is wrong within our own ranks.

01:18:54.000 That needs to happen with Islam. 1.00

01:18:56.000 They need some skin in the game. 0.92

01:18:58.000 It's not just about saying, well, you condemn this terrorist attack.

01:19:00.000 No.

01:19:01.000 There needs to be a systemic approach from Muslims to petition, to protest, to politically and violently actively fight this small contingency of Islamic cancer spreading across the world. 1.00

01:19:13.000 We need them to do that. 0.90

01:19:15.000 Otherwise, it has to be nukes.

01:19:17.000 Absolutely.

01:19:18.000 They won't.

01:19:18.000 But here's the problem.

01:19:19.000 Because the moment that they start fighting against their own people, they become outside of that protected group.

01:19:24.000 They become infidels. 1.00

01:19:25.000 They become apostates. 1.00

01:19:26.000 And therefore, they can be killed by everybody else. 0.98

01:19:30.000 But that's war!

01:19:32.000 I agree.

01:19:32.000 No, no, no.

01:19:33.000 This is what they should do, but I'm telling you why they won't.

01:19:35.000 Right.

01:19:36.000 Even people that are in that kind of camp and say, yeah, you're absolutely right.

01:19:39.000 We have to stop these people that are taking over our religion, like they said. 0.82

01:19:44.000 They won't do it because they can't stand up.

01:19:46.000 The protests over the drawing of Muhammad? 0.98

01:19:46.000 They'll get killed. 0.98

01:19:48.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:19:48.000 How fast? 1.00

01:19:49.000 Well, why can't you get that many Muslims in a town square?

01:19:51.000 Why can't you get that many to come together fighting against a terrorist attack? 0.97

01:19:55.000 You can get them to come together and fill the town freaking square because someone drew Muhammad, which we'll do later on. 0.98

01:20:00.000 Bob Ross will be in and we'll do a live instructional on drawing Muhammad. 0.91

01:20:03.000 But you can't fill the B ballroom at the Hyatt. 0.96

01:20:09.000 With enough Muslims for a terrorist attack. 1.00

01:20:11.000 Let's be real here. 0.99

01:20:12.000 One should be more outrageous than the other.

01:20:14.000 And it's not just condemning a terror attack.

01:20:17.000 They need to do what Americans and anyone else in Western civilization does to fight against radical Islam. 0.98

01:20:24.000 They need to do that.

01:20:25.000 They're citizens of the United States.

01:20:27.000 You need to do these things.

01:20:28.000 And I don't hear anyone else talking about that.

01:20:30.000 It's not just saying condemn the terrorist attacks.

01:20:32.000 What I am saying is we cannot do this without, if there are as many moderate Muslims as they claim to have out there, We need them to do it. 1.00

01:20:40.000 They need to do it.

01:20:41.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:20:42.000 And to go biblical kind of on you, you judge a tree by its fruit.

01:20:46.000 We appreciate your words and you're sorry for all the things that have happened here, but your fruit is telling us that you stand for it because you're not doing anything to stop it.

01:20:46.000 Sorry, guys.

01:20:53.000 And in a lot of cases, you're promoting it, especially as organizations and leaders around the world.

01:20:58.000 Yeah.

01:20:59.000 They're high-fiving each other on their back, saying, all right, good, we're striking a blow at the enemy.

01:21:03.000 And they look at us and they go, oh, those freedoms that we hate that you have, guess what?

01:21:07.000 Your politicians are now coming out and saying, we need to get rid of the Second Amendment, or we need to get rid of these guns.

01:21:11.000 We need to restrict freedom.

01:21:13.000 We need to restrict freedom of speech. 0.84

01:21:15.000 Bring in Syrian refugees, let men into the little girls' room, and disarm all women. 1.00

01:21:20.000 What could possibly go wrong?

01:21:22.000 Gerald Morgan, at G. Morgan Jr., thank you so much, brother, for being with us.

01:21:26.000 We'll have to have you back soon.

01:21:27.000 Absolutely, bud.

01:21:27.000 Thanks.

01:21:28.000 Thank you very much.

01:21:28.000 That was Gerald Morgan.

01:21:29.000 He's a rocket scientist, neurosurgeon, and now geologist.

01:21:32.000 Just got another degree.

01:21:33.000 I'll notify you after the break what it is.

01:21:35.000 For breaking news on Wilder with Crowder, I'm Harry Malfeldon.

01:21:59.000 We take you now back to Orlando with Jimmy, our on-the-street reporter who has exclusive interviews with those affected from this horrendous tragedy this week.

01:22:10.000 Jimmy! 0.85

01:22:10.000 Yes, Perry, thank you. 0.85

01:22:12.000 I'm here with Patrick.

01:22:14.000 Patrick, thank you.

01:22:15.000 We're...

01:22:16.000 Really sorry that we even have to ask you for this interview.

01:22:20.000 We want to try and help best prevent this tragedy in the future through accurate reporting and aggregation of information.

01:22:27.000 Is there anything that you think maybe the media hasn't accurately addressed?

01:22:31.000 Was there anything there you can tell us?

01:22:33.000 Well, yeah.

01:22:35.000 It was obviously horrendous.

01:22:37.000 It was a tragedy.

01:22:38.000 I mean, the man came in and Now, Jimmy, it sounded like he said that the mass murderer yelled, there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet.

01:23:02.000 No, Perry.

01:23:04.000 Your headset must not be working again.

01:23:06.000 It sounded like he said, there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet.

01:23:10.000 No, he said he's tired of all these gun manufacturers making obscene profits!

01:23:15.000 Huh, interesting, to say the least.

01:23:17.000 Well, getting to the bottom of this and breaking news louder with crowd, I will keep you abreast as this story unfolds.

01:23:26.000 I'm Perry Matherwood.

01:23:29.000 When it's time to party, we will party hard.

01:23:32.000 Glad to be back.

01:23:57.000 Little Andrew W.K. for you.

01:23:59.000 Nothing wrong with that.

01:23:59.000 Have a guest.

01:24:00.000 Someone who has directly been vilified in the media.

01:24:03.000 Not really.

01:24:04.000 More so the idea of this person.

01:24:05.000 He runs PatriotPawnandGun.com.

01:24:09.000 Guess what you can purchase there.

01:24:10.000 Guess what you can do with a site like that.

01:24:12.000 Alex Joy joins us.

01:24:14.000 Can you hear me, sir?

01:24:15.000 I can.

01:24:16.000 Are you there from the store right now?

01:24:19.000 I am.

01:24:20.000 We've got customers at the counter.

01:24:20.000 I'm live in the store.

01:24:21.000 We're selling guns right now.

01:24:23.000 Is that legal?

01:24:27.000 It is in Idaho.

01:24:28.000 I don't know about the rest of the country.

01:24:30.000 Well, I just, you know, I don't know if someone fills out a background check or something and their social security number is seen over your shoulder.

01:24:36.000 Okay, so how long have you been in the business, the firearms business, Alex?

01:24:40.000 I've been in the biz for nine years.

01:24:42.000 I'm a federal firearms license holder, and I have a, you know, I've got a license from the federal government that says I can legally sell guns.

01:24:50.000 Okay.

01:24:51.000 So, let me ask you this, because there are a few rumors, and so I wanted to get someone with direct experience.

01:24:55.000 Now, Patriot, well, we'll get PatriotPawnandGun.com.

01:24:58.000 Can people purchase online?

01:25:01.000 We don't sell directly online, but they can contact us and we can transfer firearms.

01:25:05.000 We can make the sale here and we can transfer to another federal firearms license holder in their state.

01:25:11.000 Okay, exactly.

01:25:12.000 Well, I wanted to get to that because I wanted to make sure so people can go to the site or wherever it is and check it out because there are a few logical fallacies here.

01:25:19.000 Can someone purchase a firearm, you're a firearm stealer, legally from you without a background check?

01:25:23.000 Does that happen?

01:25:25.000 Absolutely not.

01:25:27.000 Big no-no.

01:25:27.000 We've got to run them through a very stringent process.

01:25:30.000 Is it the same for all gun dealers?

01:25:32.000 It is.

01:25:33.000 It is.

01:25:34.000 There's this mythology out there that the anti-gun left uses that it's so easy to get a gun legally.

01:25:40.000 It's not.

01:25:41.000 Now, you can get a gun easily, illegally.

01:25:44.000 Because we've got a porous open southern border, and you've got drug cartels and gang members going back and forth with illegal guns all the time.

01:25:50.000 You can go to Detroit, Chicago, L.A., any place downtown and buy an illegal gun as easy as you can buy some meth or some crack cocaine.

01:25:57.000 Or bath salts and bite somebody's face off. 0.99

01:25:57.000 Yes, you can. 0.99

01:25:59.000 Although, actually, they weren't even on bath salts.

01:26:01.000 Don't dish it into you.

01:26:03.000 They had just smoked pot.

01:26:04.000 People don't realize that.

01:26:05.000 A few of them.

01:26:06.000 Everyone was following bath salts.

01:26:07.000 Okay, so they can't do that in the store.

01:26:09.000 Online, like you just said, you ship to another FFL. This is the way the online works, yeah.

01:26:14.000 First off, background check online?

01:26:16.000 Because they say, you can buy online without a background check.

01:26:17.000 Again, we're talking illegal.

01:26:18.000 No, okay, go ahead.

01:26:18.000 Absolutely not.

01:26:19.000 What happens is, so they may order a gun online from store A. Store A has to ship the gun properly, and again, there's a lot of rules and regulations.

01:26:19.000 Absolutely not.

01:26:28.000 Like patriotpawnandgun.com.

01:26:30.000 Let's use yours as an example.

01:26:31.000 So let's say someone says, I want to get, I don't know, I want to get a Glock 19 from you, from patriotpawnandgun.com.

01:26:39.000 Okay.

01:26:39.000 Yeah.

01:26:40.000 So they order from me.

01:26:41.000 They go to PatriotPondandGun.com.

01:26:42.000 They call us up.

01:26:43.000 We sell them a Glock 19.

01:26:44.000 I have to then get from them a federal firearms license copy from the FFL agent in their city from their end.

01:26:54.000 I have to ship directly to another federal firearms license holder, and then they go pick up the gun from that FFL dealer, and they have to go through the 4473 process, the strict background check, and all that to get the gun.

01:27:06.000 Okay.

01:27:06.000 Right.

01:27:07.000 Now, I know this, but a lot of people out there who haven't purchased firearms don't know the process.

01:27:11.000 And that's the beauty of the firearm issue.

01:27:14.000 All it takes is someone having bought one firearm ever, and they know Hillary Clinton is lying. 0.81

01:27:18.000 They know it.

01:27:19.000 That's not true.

01:27:20.000 Absolutely.

01:27:21.000 Okay, so...

01:27:22.000 So, people are complaining, this shooter, you know, well, why wasn't there a longer waiting period, is something they talk about.

01:27:27.000 Like, which firearms do have a longer waiting period, or people use the term, fully automatic?

01:27:33.000 Turns out the guy didn't even use an AR-15.

01:27:34.000 He used, what was it, a 6-hour MC? It was a 6-hour, I think it was an MPX. It's basically a, kind of a fancy pistol, actually, a high-capacity fancy pistol.

01:27:43.000 Okay, so there you go.

01:27:43.000 It kind of looks a little bit like a...

01:27:46.000 Like an SBR, a short-barreled rifle AR. Well, why do they say AR-15 style?

01:27:51.000 Is it just because they want to repeat that, drill it in to make people afraid of the name?

01:27:55.000 Because that's the bogeyman.

01:27:56.000 That's the bogeyman.

01:27:57.000 And the reality is that less than 300 people are killed by a rifle per year in the United States.

01:28:04.000 And of those, maybe 100 ARs a year.

01:28:06.000 So, I mean, out of a nation of 300 million people, the odds of you drowning in your swimming pool are much greater than getting shot by an AR-15.

01:28:14.000 Okay.

01:28:14.000 Sure.

01:28:15.000 But it's a buzzword, you know?

01:28:16.000 It's an evil black gun.

01:28:18.000 Well, you can also get them in green.

01:28:20.000 You can get them in pink.

01:28:20.000 That's true.

01:28:21.000 They're gorgeous.

01:28:22.000 Yeah.

01:28:23.000 Super sexy.

01:28:23.000 You know what?

01:28:24.000 There are now gay gun clubs online.

01:28:26.000 They're called like pink guns groups that are arming up and getting trained. 0.86

01:28:30.000 I love it.

01:28:31.000 And their ARs are pink. 0.97

01:28:32.000 Well, hopefully they realize their enemy are not Christian gun owners, that it's still Islam because they want to throw them off the roof or go shoot up a nightclub. 0.98

01:28:38.000 Well, absolutely.

01:28:39.000 You know, some of the evangelicals don't want to bake them a cake, but, you know, Farouk...

01:28:42.000 It's comparable! 0.99

01:28:43.000 This guy wants to shoot them or throw them off a building. 0.99

01:28:46.000 But, you know, they're comparable. 0.99

01:28:47.000 Yes.

01:28:48.000 Analogical equivalent.

01:28:49.000 Sally Cohn makes a convincing argument.

01:28:50.000 The similarities are striking.

01:28:51.000 Okay, so AR-15, I know, it's not fully automatic.

01:28:55.000 People out there know...

01:28:56.000 From a Class 2 dealer.

01:28:57.000 They're not fully auto.

01:28:58.000 They're called semi-automatic from a Class 2 dealer like myself.

01:29:01.000 Okay, so what is required to get a fully automatic weapon?

01:29:04.000 That's a Class 3 license.

01:29:05.000 So again, I want people to know when they say fully automatic, what's required to get that and what class is it?

01:29:10.000 Sure.

01:29:10.000 Let me show you real quick what the difference between a Class 2 and a Class 3 is.

01:29:14.000 You'll see this switch right here, okay?

01:29:17.000 There are two positions on a Class 2 semi-automatic.

01:29:22.000 There is safe, and there is fire.

01:29:24.000 Now, when you put it on the fire switch, it's just as fast as you can pull your trigger, but it's semi-auto.

01:29:29.000 Every trigger pull shoots one round.

01:29:31.000 A full-auto, like what our troops are shooting, has a happy switch.

01:29:34.000 You go one more position that way, and then it's full-auto.

01:29:41.000 Right.

01:29:42.000 And that requires a Class 3 license.

01:29:45.000 That requires a Class 3 license.

01:29:47.000 It's very difficult to get a Class 3 license.

01:29:50.000 Far more difficult than any other government-regulated thing known to man.

01:29:56.000 It can take six months to a year to get a Class 3 license.

01:29:56.000 Right.

01:29:59.000 You've got to go to a Class 3 dealer.

01:30:00.000 You've got to go through a stringent background check where they practically do an enema and rectal exam on you.

01:30:05.000 Yes.

01:30:06.000 Then you wait, and you wait, and you wait, and you wait.

01:30:08.000 It's mandatory when you're 55, I think, anyway.

01:30:11.000 Yeah, I mean, it would take me a half hour to explain the process, but it's a very stringent process.

01:30:17.000 Yeah, we don't need to explain the full process, because we only have one minute left, but I wanted people to know, a lot of people out there just hear semi-automatic, the wordplay is important, but I want people to know how hard it is to, let me ask you this real quick, just 20 seconds.

01:30:30.000 Is there any firearm law that could have prevented this?

01:30:33.000 Absolutely not.

01:30:34.000 You can't prevent evil.

01:30:35.000 These bad guys are going to get guns.

01:30:37.000 And if they don't get a gun, they're going to get a knife. 0.93

01:30:39.000 If they don't get a knife, they're going to set the place on fire. 0.86

01:30:41.000 They're going to do evil. 0.80

01:30:41.000 You know, those guys in Boston made a bomb out of a pressure cooker and some nails and some gasoline. 0.80

01:30:47.000 I mean, come on.

01:30:47.000 They go down to a Home Depot.

01:30:49.000 What are you going to ban Home Depot?

01:30:50.000 I had a great uncle who died from a pressure cooker.

01:30:52.000 But Alex, I hate to cut you off.

01:30:54.000 PatriotPawnandGun.com, right?

01:30:55.000 Yes, sir.

01:30:56.000 PatriotPawnandGun.com.

01:30:57.000 Summit Firearms Academy.

01:30:58.000 Get armed, get trained.

01:30:59.000 Your government is not going to protect you.

01:31:01.000 You've got to protect yourself.

01:31:02.000 Get trained.

01:31:03.000 PatriotPawnandGun.com.

01:31:04.000 But don't go asking him for machine guns because you can't do it!

01:31:07.000 Alex Joy, thank you very much for educating us, sir.

01:31:10.000 We'll make sure to educate people more after this.

01:31:13.000 Now.

01:31:14.000 Go now, go now, go now!

01:31:15.000 going out.

01:31:15.000 And now for actual studio conversations.

01:31:27.000 Your dog is a weird...

01:31:40.000 I caught him earlier. 0.76

01:31:42.000 He was just licking himself. 0.86

01:31:45.000 Like he just could not get enough of his downstairs nether region.

01:31:49.000 I don't know, it was like at least half an hour.

01:31:53.000 That's weird.

01:31:54.000 Just sitting there.

01:31:54.000 It is weird.

01:31:55.000 I told you it was weird.

01:31:57.000 No, you're weird.

01:31:57.000 What?

01:31:58.000 He's a dog.

01:32:00.000 A dog licking himself is natural.

01:32:02.000 You watching him for 45 minutes is not.

01:32:06.000 At all.

01:32:08.000 This has been Actual Studio Conversations.

01:32:22.000 This has been Actual Studio Conversations.

01:32:46.000 Are we in the third hour?

01:32:46.000 Glad to be back.

01:32:48.000 Third hour.

01:32:48.000 We are in the third hour.

01:32:49.000 Sorry, people listening on the stream, they're going, what do you mean third hour?

01:32:51.000 Because we cut it shorter than those listening on radio.

01:32:54.000 By the way, no big announcements.

01:32:55.000 We're not going daily.

01:32:57.000 Don't try and force our hand.

01:32:58.000 And we're just stop.

01:32:59.000 Stop.

01:33:00.000 It's rude to insist on that.

01:33:02.000 The show will never go daily.

01:33:05.000 We do not have an exploratory committee.

01:33:07.000 There are no plans in the works. 0.99

01:33:09.000 Shut up. 0.99

01:33:11.000 Your host, Stephen Crowder, producing with me in video studio, as always, is Not Gay Jared. 1.00

01:33:15.000 Follow him at Not Gay Jared. 0.82

01:33:17.000 So, we have something for our viewers right now.

01:33:20.000 A treat.

01:33:21.000 Those listening on radio.

01:33:22.000 Of course, right now, with the Islam issue, people are saying, well, Muslims are not peace-hating terrorists, and of course that's the case. 0.96

01:33:32.000 They're saying Islam is not a problem, and Islam is entirely compatible with Western culture.

01:33:36.000 The problem with Western culture is guns.

01:33:39.000 And Muslims support freedom of speech as anyone does.

01:33:42.000 And so we know that.

01:33:43.000 We know that, for example, you can speak out against Islam. 0.99

01:33:46.000 You can convert.

01:33:47.000 You can fight against Sharia. 0.97

01:33:48.000 Of course, freedom of speech.

01:33:50.000 You can draw Muhammad. 0.98

01:33:51.000 And so we actually found this one.

01:33:52.000 You may not have seen this before.

01:33:54.000 It kind of got buried.

01:33:55.000 Kind of like long lost.

01:33:55.000 It kind of got buried.

01:33:57.000 Historically, I don't think people were on high alert.

01:34:00.000 It wasn't archived well at all.

01:34:02.000 But thank God for YouTube.

01:34:03.000 We have Bob Ross, your favorite public broadcaster, amazing painter.

01:34:07.000 And we found this episode of The Joys of Painting, where he teaches you how to draw Muhammad. 0.74

01:34:13.000 Let's do it.

01:34:14.000 Hi.

01:34:32.000 Welcome to Joy of Painting.

01:34:33.000 I'm happy to see you here today, especially on this week, Cultural Appropriation Month, as we appreciate the wonderful culture that is the Middle East and our Muslim friends.

01:34:44.000 It's always good to have friends of many different walks of life.

01:34:47.000 So today we're going to be teaching you how to draw a nice picture in a landscape.

01:34:53.000 Of Muhammad, peace be upon him, the holiest of prophets.

01:34:57.000 So let's show you how to start.

01:34:58.000 You've got to get your paint ready.

01:34:59.000 I prefer to use oils.

01:35:01.000 You could use pastels.

01:35:03.000 It's whatever you pick.

01:35:04.000 Painting can be easy for anybody.

01:35:05.000 Let's just pick a nice neutral color.

01:35:10.000 And we are going to just start drawing Muhammad. 0.97

01:35:13.000 A little prophet there.

01:35:14.000 Let me grab a color.

01:35:15.000 There we go. 0.91

01:35:17.000 Just give him a body. 0.89

01:35:18.000 A little bit of a body there.

01:35:20.000 See, it doesn't have to be complex.

01:35:22.000 Traditional headdress they wear in the Middle East.

01:35:26.000 Let's give this, let's give this man a beard.

01:35:30.000 There we go.

01:35:31.000 Nice beard for Muhammad. 1.00

01:35:33.000 It'll protect your face in the sandstorms.

01:35:36.000 Beard's important to have.

01:35:38.000 And there we go.

01:35:39.000 Give him some facial features.

01:35:41.000 See little details.

01:35:42.000 See how that fills out the picture.

01:35:44.000 Now Muhammad, though, look at him. 0.99

01:35:46.000 He looks lonely.

01:35:48.000 How about we give him a wife? 1.00

01:35:50.000 Let's just draw him.

01:35:52.000 Little wife. 0.68

01:35:54.000 Favorite one was Aisha, little six-year-old wife. 1.00

01:35:57.000 Right there.

01:35:58.000 We'll put her in the hijab, not the full burqa. 0.79

01:36:02.000 You can choose your favorite color for the hijab or burqa.

01:36:06.000 It can be black.

01:36:08.000 Or slate.

01:36:10.000 And little six-year-old Aisha.

01:36:11.000 You know what?

01:36:12.000 Let's give her a knapsack. 1.00

01:36:14.000 She's about that age where she'll go to school.

01:36:17.000 Aisha, Muhammad's favorite wife, was six.

01:36:20.000 Nine when he consummated.

01:36:21.000 She was a good student.

01:36:23.000 And a tender lover.

01:36:24.000 Look at that.

01:36:26.000 See, look.

01:36:27.000 Very quickly, we have Aisha, Muhammad. 1.00

01:36:30.000 What a cute couple. 0.83

01:36:31.000 But he still seems a little lonely.

01:36:33.000 Let's give him a few more wives. 1.00

01:36:35.000 Just a few more wives. 1.00

01:36:36.000 These ones don't have to be complex.

01:36:38.000 You can use black or gray.

01:36:40.000 Let's give them the full burqa. 1.00

01:36:42.000 There you go.

01:36:43.000 And a couple more wives. 1.00

01:36:46.000 Just a couple more wives to keep him company. 1.00

01:36:48.000 One, two, three.

01:36:49.000 Of course he had more.

01:36:51.000 You can draw as many as you want.

01:36:53.000 Use the color you want.

01:36:54.000 Muhammad liked some foliage.

01:36:57.000 Let's draw some trees for him.

01:36:59.000 I'm using a forest green.

01:37:01.000 You could use a...

01:37:02.000 You could use a military green because he was a warlord. 0.99

01:37:07.000 He killed lots of Christians and Jews. 0.98

01:37:08.000 Didn't like him very much. 0.98

01:37:10.000 There we go.

01:37:12.000 Just some foliage, some trees.

01:37:14.000 Let's give some there on the other side of Muhammad there. 0.99

01:37:15.000 Let's get just a little bit of green.

01:37:18.000 Oh, that's nice.

01:37:19.000 See, Muhammad was really clear that he should never hurt the trees in a time of war.

01:37:24.000 He was very concerned with the plants.

01:37:27.000 Not so much with his wives, so let's give Aisha a little bit of a black eye. 1.00

01:37:32.000 I think that's her next step.

01:37:34.000 Muhammad, of course, did strike Aisha, but only lightly, causing her great pain.

01:37:39.000 Let's put black eye there.

01:37:41.000 I'm using mauve.

01:37:43.000 You can use violet.

01:37:44.000 You just want to make sure people see the severe beating Aisha took. 0.97

01:37:51.000 Let's get a crimson red in there. 1.00

01:37:51.000 You know what? 1.00

01:37:53.000 Give little six-year-old Aisha a student lover of fat lip.

01:37:57.000 That's Muhammad's wife, who he beat. 0.99

01:38:00.000 He's drawn right there, as you can see, to the left of her.

01:38:03.000 And there we go, Aisha with a black eye and a fat lip. 1.00

01:38:07.000 Oh, look at that picture.

01:38:09.000 Out there in the desert, lonely nights.

01:38:13.000 See, look what we were able to draw here.

01:38:15.000 Just a couple of minutes.

01:38:17.000 Painting doesn't have to be hard.

01:38:19.000 Especially when your inspiration is Muhammad, the holiest of prophets, who liked to beat a six-year-old wife, didn't hurt trees, but had lots of wives, didn't like Jews. 0.96

01:38:32.000 I hope you've enjoyed it.

01:38:34.000 Have a good week, and happy painting.

01:38:38.000 Have a good week.

01:38:52.000 It's good to just lighten it up every now and then.

01:38:54.000 It was.

01:38:55.000 I was really glad we found that.

01:38:56.000 Not political.

01:38:57.000 Just teaching people how to paint.

01:38:59.000 Hobbies are good.

01:39:00.000 Getting back to the simple joys of life.

01:39:02.000 Speaking of simple joys, we haven't updated this in a while.

01:39:07.000 Let me give you a macro from the left.

01:39:09.000 They want to import Syrian refugees from war-torn lands in record numbers.

01:39:14.000 They want to send your women in with men in the restrooms and entirely disarm everyone. 1.00

01:39:21.000 What could possibly go wrong there?

01:39:41.000 Germany, Syrian refugee arrested for assaulting children.

01:39:44.000 In the UK, full of British school children were attacked by migrants who smashed a window and caused a child to suffer an epileptic fit.

01:39:53.000 Muslims attack Germany, attack Germans and Germans, gosh, my mouth is just, attack eight-month pregnant old woman in Germany because she was wearing a cross. 1.00

01:40:02.000 Norway, three-year-old boy raped by multiple people at an asylum center. 0.99

01:40:09.000 German Leisure Center becomes the first to ban all migrants after a schoolgirl was sexually assaulted in a public swimming pool.

01:40:15.000 Of course you have the Boston Bombers.

01:40:16.000 Of course you have the Paris attacks.

01:40:19.000 So, I just want to give you an idea as to what an actual threat is.

01:40:23.000 If you want to talk about something consistent, let's talk about Islam. 1.00

01:40:27.000 Not only the violation of life, not only terrorism, but violation of basic human rights as well. 0.97

01:40:34.000 And human rights doesn't mean the right to get a gay wedding cake. 0.72

01:40:36.000 It doesn't mean the right to get married anywhere you want and any church you want outside of a civil union from the government.

01:40:43.000 I'm talking about fundamental rights like life, not being raped, being able to defend yourself, those...

01:40:47.000 Those don't exist in many countries in Europe.

01:40:51.000 So that's kind of important.

01:40:52.000 So I wanted to talk...

01:40:53.000 Something here...

01:40:54.000 We're going to have Dave Rubin after the break.

01:40:56.000 I have a lot of affection for Dave Rubin.

01:40:57.000 I'll explain why.

01:40:58.000 Because he doesn't do what's happened with a lot of other leftists.

01:41:03.000 D.L. Hughley was supposed to be on the show.

01:41:05.000 Then he had to cancel.

01:41:07.000 To be fair, D.L. Hughley has come on before.

01:41:09.000 He did say he'll do it next week.

01:41:12.000 Jill Sobule, who was working, did the songs for Bernie Sanders, agreed to come on.

01:41:15.000 She didn't come on.

01:41:17.000 We've had a rash of this lately.

01:41:19.000 Two this week.

01:41:20.000 A big one, Michael Woods Jr., who was on the Joe Rogan podcast, who was on there talking about the Second Amendment, wanting to remove the Second Amendment rights from many people.

01:41:31.000 Joe said, well, why don't you do a debate?

01:41:33.000 He said, oh, no one will do it.

01:41:34.000 Sam Harris turned me down.

01:41:35.000 He said, no one will debate him.

01:41:36.000 No one will do this with him.

01:41:37.000 And I said, okay, well, listen, I'll do it.

01:41:39.000 I'd love to have a discussion with you.

01:41:42.000 I use the word discussion.

01:41:42.000 I think it'd be productive.

01:41:45.000 He said, sure.

01:41:46.000 So this is what he...

01:41:47.000 I want to give you this because we were going to have him on the show.

01:41:48.000 A lot of you were excited.

01:41:51.000 And let me say this to start off with.

01:41:52.000 I have an immense amount of respect for Joe Rogan.

01:41:55.000 I've done his show.

01:41:55.000 And I don't just say that as a hollow sort of compliment.

01:41:59.000 I can tell you exactly why I respect him.

01:42:00.000 I disagree with him on a whole lot.

01:42:03.000 So Trailblazer, with not only comedy, the style that he does, but podcasting, going alternative with that, really building up a podcast from scratch.

01:42:10.000 I remember when he used to do it with a webcam, really basic, with Joey Diaz, because my friend John Lodgewell was on.

01:42:16.000 And he created it.

01:42:17.000 it.

01:42:17.000 He went off on his own and also has been immensely successful starting or working with a business on it supplement company with his podcast came into the UFC.

01:42:26.000 Obviously, one of my favorite sports when he really wasn't being compensated all that much because he loved the sport.

01:42:31.000 He's a guy who's just done what he wants to do.

01:42:32.000 He lives his life independently.

01:42:34.000 I truly have a lot of respect for Joe, even though I disagree with him.

01:42:36.000 So I want to make sure that if Joe is out there, occasionally he might listen or watch some of this.

01:42:41.000 I didn't want to hijack his show.

01:42:43.000 That's why I offered my platform.

01:42:45.000 I don't ever want to assume or leverage this program to try and force Joe's hand.

01:42:50.000 So I said, let's do it, invited him on our program.

01:42:52.000 This guy, Michael Woods Jr., accepted.

01:42:54.000 Here's the image of Michael Woods Jr.

01:42:56.000 saying, no, no, that's the private email, the image from him of the tweet.

01:43:01.000 We'll get to the private email, the tweet where he said, sure, let's do a Skype call or a pre-record.

01:43:05.000 Do we have that?

01:43:06.000 Yes.

01:43:06.000 He said, alright, we'll see what Joe says.

01:43:08.000 And if it doesn't work, we can do a recorded Skype or something.

01:43:10.000 My DMs are open.

01:43:11.000 So, let's go to the DMs.

01:43:13.000 We said, hey, can we have you on this week?

01:43:14.000 He said he was traveling from the coast when he got back.

01:43:17.000 So we said, okay, that's fine.

01:43:19.000 You let me know when.

01:43:21.000 Be well.

01:43:21.000 And you can see this up here.

01:43:23.000 Jared will bring it up on screen.

01:43:25.000 Then he went public and changed the conditions and said, new terms.

01:43:28.000 I'll debate Steven Crowder when he put up some GoFundMe.

01:43:32.000 And then behind the scenes told me to act professional when he had moved the goalposts.

01:43:37.000 We've got the direct message here, because I want to read it for the audience.

01:43:40.000 He said, that's not a debate. 0.95

01:43:43.000 What WTF do you not get? 0.79

01:43:45.000 A debate is controlled, moderate. 0.99

01:43:47.000 It doesn't even make sense.

01:43:48.000 He can't write clearly.

01:43:50.000 But he basically kept changing the goalposts, and he's not coming on for a debate.

01:43:54.000 And he was the one who accepted.

01:43:56.000 He was the one who said no one would debate him.

01:43:58.000 It seems like he just wanted to use this to leverage to get back on Joe Rogan's program.

01:44:01.000 It's really hard to get liberals.

01:44:02.000 We agree.

01:44:03.000 We said no time limits, no editing.

01:44:04.000 We do that with people.

01:44:07.000 And I'd say seven times out of ten they just back out.

01:44:10.000 And it's been a real problem.

01:44:11.000 So we tried to bring it to you.

01:44:12.000 Hopefully he comes on.

01:44:14.000 I don't think he has any intent of doing so.

01:44:16.000 But we have Dave Rubin after the break.

01:44:17.000 He's a good one.

01:44:18.000 Stay tuned.

01:44:19.000 Oh, there you are again.

01:44:33.000 I'm glad you're enjoying the videocast or live video stream, but many of you don't know, you can subscribe on iTunes or SoundCloud, take the audio version with you on the go.

01:44:41.000 There's exclusive commercials, plus it's free.

01:44:45.000 As we know, you don't want to say cheap, inexpensive, you're frugal.

01:44:52.000 Stay still.

01:44:53.000 Hey, Steven, what are you doing?

01:45:01.000 I'm just browsing AR15.com.

01:45:03.000 You mean the site about the scary black rifle with the best prices, community, and information on the web?

01:45:07.000 Oh, what the hell's the difference?

01:45:08.000 AR15.com!

01:45:10.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:45:12.000 AR15.com!

01:45:13.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:45:18.000 You know, they just heard the three takes.

01:45:20.000 You did three takes.

01:45:21.000 They can hear you.

01:45:21.000 You didn't edit it.

01:45:23.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:45:24.000 *Dies* *Dies*

01:45:55.000 Glad to be back.

01:45:56.000 Guile Street Fighter theme song makes everything better.

01:45:59.000 Absolutely.

01:45:59.000 And I'm glad to have our next guest.

01:46:01.000 I have to say this right off the bat before we bring him on.

01:46:04.000 I have a lot of affection for him.

01:46:05.000 I really like the guy.

01:46:06.000 I have a soft spot in my heart for him because we disagree on a lot.

01:46:09.000 I think he's a good guy.

01:46:10.000 I think he's a stand-up guy.

01:46:12.000 He's one of the few people I haven't spent a lot of time with whom I trust, character-wise.

01:46:16.000 And he's willing to actually show up and stand in the pocket with people, even if he disagrees with them.

01:46:22.000 So, again, you never want to give out hollow compliments.

01:46:24.000 I'm in the business of actually describing why.

01:46:26.000 You can follow him on Twitter at RubenReport or his wonderful YouTube channel with his talk show.

01:46:31.000 Dave Ruben, thanks for being with us, brother.

01:46:33.000 Crowder, first off, I love the fact that I'm coming into...

01:46:36.000 Was that 16-bit Street Fighter?

01:46:39.000 It was.

01:46:40.000 Yeah, so it was Super Street Fighter, Guile Song.

01:46:42.000 I wasn't exactly sure what it was, but I knew it was 16-bit something or other, so that's beautiful to come into that.

01:46:47.000 I have Sega Genesis in the other room right now.

01:46:50.000 Very good!

01:46:51.000 I know we're always talking about politics and free speech and blah, blah, blah, but why don't we just start one of these video game channels and we'd be freaking rolling in dough?

01:46:58.000 We'd be millionaires, but I'm a Super Nintendo guy, so we'd have to, you know, that's the white privilege of the console wars.

01:47:05.000 You know what's funny?

01:47:06.000 I can accept a lot of your radical racist positions, but...

01:47:12.000 It's the Super Nintendo thing that I can't get over.

01:47:15.000 It really gets his goat.

01:47:16.000 It really gets his goat. 0.97

01:47:18.000 It's like, alright, you don't like trans people. 0.90

01:47:20.000 Alright, fine.

01:47:21.000 But it's like, really?

01:47:23.000 Super Nintendo over Sega Genesis?

01:47:24.000 Well, it makes sense.

01:47:25.000 I mean, you know, there are more buttons.

01:47:27.000 But I guess Dave Rubin, he doesn't like as much variety with the buttons.

01:47:30.000 That's why he stays with his own buttons.

01:47:32.000 Dave!

01:47:32.000 Big week...

01:47:35.000 Big week. 1.00

01:47:36.000 Stop it, not gay, Jared! 1.00

01:47:38.000 Oh, and just one other thing, Crowder, before we get to the big week. 0.78

01:47:40.000 Thank you for explaining to me via text how to tweet before I get on the show.

01:47:45.000 A lot of people just forget.

01:47:47.000 Huh?

01:47:48.000 A lot of people just forget.

01:47:49.000 Well, I just want to do this so that way you have the link and you can just hit retweet.

01:47:51.000 You don't have to fashion your own tweet.

01:47:52.000 You should be thanking me.

01:47:55.000 I... Is this just...

01:47:56.000 You're just...

01:47:56.000 See, I compliment him and he's just petulant.

01:47:59.000 Nothing like perpetuating the original stereotype, Dave. 1.00

01:48:02.000 Just likes to bitch. 1.00

01:48:03.000 You know, I had to stop the basketball game for this, so I'm just... 0.98

01:48:06.000 Oh, gosh.

01:48:07.000 I'm missing it.

01:48:08.000 The basketball game in Los Angeles.

01:48:10.000 I'm sure they cower in fear when Ruben shows up.

01:48:14.000 Basketball game in Los Angeles.

01:48:15.000 NBA Finals, man.

01:48:17.000 Oh, I thought you were playing pickup ball.

01:48:19.000 Never mind.

01:48:22.000 Never mind.

01:48:22.000 That joke doesn't work.

01:48:23.000 It doesn't work.

01:48:24.000 Yeah, try again.

01:48:25.000 Well, okay.

01:48:26.000 You two both like NBA, so that's in common.

01:48:28.000 So, okay, Dave.

01:48:30.000 Listen, I mean, I know you're not really super liberal.

01:48:32.000 You're kind of moderate.

01:48:33.000 You're very reasonable.

01:48:34.000 But all of our liberals have dropped out.

01:48:36.000 And so I said, listen, I need you to come in and pinch hit.

01:48:38.000 And I think you and I slightly disagree on the gun control issue.

01:48:42.000 Let me ask you this.

01:48:43.000 This has happened.

01:48:44.000 This has unfolded this week.

01:48:46.000 You're a reasonable guy.

01:48:48.000 You're more moderate. 0.99

01:48:49.000 You're also gay. 0.99

01:48:50.000 I don't think that's any secret. 0.99

01:48:51.000 I know you don't dine off of that.

01:48:53.000 Was your reaction right away, we have a problem with Islam?

01:48:56.000 I always forget. 1.00

01:48:57.000 Are you gay again? 0.99

01:48:58.000 I always forget. 0.96

01:48:59.000 It's up in the air, depending on who you ask.

01:49:01.000 Okay, okay.

01:49:02.000 So I say that because it's obvious this affects the gay community.

01:49:06.000 And there's been a very big outcry from both the left and the right.

01:49:09.000 And it seems like they're just kind of...

01:49:10.000 We haven't even talked about that today because I never want to use the gay community as pawns. 1.00

01:49:16.000 What was your reaction?

01:49:17.000 Did you go to Islam's a problem or, oh my gosh, gun control?

01:49:20.000 Well, there's a couple things here.

01:49:22.000 So first off, I would always say in every case of this, whether this person had turned out to have been a white Christian or a brown Muslim or an Asian gay person or a handicapped Indian or give me a couple others, I would always blame the person who did it first.

01:49:42.000 The means with which they do it.

01:49:45.000 Look, if I had a machine gun, what kind of, so they were originally, they were saying it was AR-15, but now I guess it's something else.

01:49:51.000 But an AR-15 isn't a machine gun either.

01:49:53.000 Okay, so if I had had, what's the gun, do you know offhand?

01:49:56.000 A Sig Sauer MCX. To someone like you who hasn't probably fired either, you would think they're very similar.

01:50:03.000 It's a different operating system.

01:50:05.000 Okay, fair enough.

01:50:06.000 And that is correct.

01:50:07.000 I have not fired either of them.

01:50:08.000 But I think this will illustrate my point even more.

01:50:12.000 If I had one here right now, I would not think, my God, I have that gun here. 1.00

01:50:18.000 I should go into a gay club and shoot gay people, or I should go into a mosque and shoot Muslims, or I should go into a church and shoot Christian people. 1.00

01:50:28.000 So it is not about the gun itself. 1.00

01:50:31.000 Now, we can have a debate about some level of gun control, and it's too easy for people to get guns who shouldn't get guns and that kind of thing.

01:50:38.000 But I always would blame the person who did it and the ideology that made them do it.

01:50:44.000 And this is, again, I mean, this is where we've really come together and why I have...

01:50:47.000 Now, friends that I consider on the right that I'm happy to have friends, we have to talk about bad ideologies and we can't be afraid to. 0.99

01:50:55.000 And there's one ideology that they hold above all of us, and it's the one that would love to have me killed, gay, atheist, Jew. 1.00

01:51:02.000 And guess what? 1.00

01:51:03.000 You're not doing that well either.

01:51:05.000 No.

01:51:06.000 So if you guys don't want me to talk about it, I mean, you know, I was about to curse, so I won't curse.

01:51:11.000 No, that's okay.

01:51:13.000 But you know what I'm saying?

01:51:14.000 That's why I asked.

01:51:14.000 No, I know exactly what you said.

01:51:15.000 Because listen, do you think the gay communities... 0.97

01:51:17.000 Listen, there's a war with Islam. 0.99

01:51:19.000 There's not a war with Christianity.

01:51:21.000 The bathroom thing...

01:51:22.000 Here's the thing. 0.71

01:51:22.000 It is an entirely tenable position for a Christian or many atheists to say, okay, I think you should use the bathroom to your biological sex. 0.71

01:51:29.000 We have some issues with it.

01:51:30.000 That is an entirely tenable position without hate.

01:51:32.000 You can argue the science of it and say they're wrong.

01:51:34.000 Doesn't mean they hate somebody. 0.89

01:51:36.000 It is not a tenable position to say gays need to be killed or treated as second-class citizens as they are in every Islamic country. 0.64

01:51:42.000 Look, the simple fact is, depending on how you add up the Islamic countries, there's about 51 of them.

01:51:47.000 It depends if you're talking about Muslim majority countries or countries where it's really more into the governmental level, etc. 0.97

01:51:53.000 But in all of those countries, it's pretty horrific for gay people. 0.98

01:51:58.000 It's pretty horrific. 0.99

01:51:59.000 Like, you can major VDL gay somewhere. 0.97

01:51:59.000 You know what I mean? 0.97

01:52:02.000 And not only that, but then in most of these countries, too, because they treat their women horribly, and the women, as Bill Maher says, the women have to wear beekeeper costumes in some of these countries.

01:52:11.000 Well, if you're, let's just pretend you're a gay man in one of these countries, or you're a heterosexual man and you're young and you can't look at women if you're straight, and you can't look at men if you're gay, you can't act on that impulse. 0.53

01:52:22.000 Well, as Bill Maher says, that's Fertile ground for terror. 0.58

01:52:26.000 And I think that's a great way of looking at it.

01:52:28.000 If you can't get out your most natural human impulses, guess what? 0.87

01:52:32.000 People like to have sex. 0.99

01:52:34.000 Straight people like to have sex. 1.00

01:52:35.000 Gay people like to have sex. 1.00

01:52:36.000 Everyone likes to have sex. 1.00

01:52:37.000 That's just one part of being human.

01:52:39.000 It's a very human thing, right?

01:52:40.000 And if you can't get those impulses out and then at the same time you're listening to imams and preachers who are demonizing gay people and, of course, demonizing Jews and Israel and all that stuff, Well, guess what? 0.81

01:52:52.000 It's a perfect combination for this guy, who was American, who internalized his homophobia, turned it on himself, and then who did he kill? 0.98

01:53:00.000 He killed gay people, because his religion taught him not to kill. 0.99

01:53:02.000 Exactly. 0.98

01:53:03.000 Okay, we have to go to a break, and then we will bring you back after the break.

01:53:06.000 I don't know what kind of 16-bit we have after this.

01:53:09.000 I don't know, but hopefully David will...

01:53:10.000 Something good.

01:53:10.000 And then we'll talk about the gun control, where we disagree, because people will want to hear that.

01:53:13.000 We need a little bit of it, at least.

01:53:15.000 Ladder with Crowder.

01:53:15.000 Crowder, stay tuned.

01:53:16.000 For Breaking News on Louder with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson.

01:53:42.000 We take you again to on the field reporter Jimmy in Orlando in the wake of this tragedy with exclusive interviews to get to the bottom of the incident and ensure...

01:53:53.000 That no tragedy like this occurs again.

01:53:56.000 Jimmy! 0.85

01:53:56.000 Yes, Perry, thank you. 0.85

01:53:58.000 I am here with Gene.

01:53:59.000 Thank you so much for taking the time.

01:54:01.000 And we really want to do our job as journalists responsibly and try and mitigate this kind of a tragedy in the future.

01:54:10.000 Do you think that there's any way or anything that we've missed that you heard in the incident when you were there?

01:54:16.000 Well, you know, I can just reiterate what other people were telling you.

01:54:21.000 That he was yelling out Allahu Akbar, that the man was clearly unstable, and repeatedly, every time he was being involved in a violent altercation, yelling out that Muhammad is the holiest of prophets, peace be upon him. 0.76

01:54:40.000 Now, Jeremy, it sounded like he kept yelling, Muhammad is the holiest of prophets, peace be upon him.

01:54:47.000 No, Perry!

01:54:49.000 That's not what he said.

01:54:50.000 It really sounded like that's what he said.

01:54:52.000 No!

01:54:53.000 What he said was the shooter liked McDonald's and had a piece on him.

01:55:00.000 He had a piece on him.

01:55:01.000 A piece is a term.

01:55:02.000 He's African American.

01:55:03.000 It's the term they use for firearms.

01:55:06.000 He had a piece on him! 0.98

01:55:07.000 No, no, no, Jimmy, that is patent bullsh**. 0.99

01:55:11.000 You are full of it. 0.98

01:55:12.000 You need to do your job, Jimmy.

01:55:14.000 I am doing my job.

01:55:15.000 I won't let you taint this with your bigotry. 0.97

01:55:19.000 What in holy hell? 0.96

01:55:20.000 What bigotry? 0.82

01:55:21.000 The man just gave you what the...

01:55:25.000 The assailant actually said...

01:55:27.000 So what, you think just because he yells out, Allahu Akbar, and Muhammad is his only prophet, or peace be upon him, you think that somehow means that this is Islamically related? 0.89

01:55:38.000 Jimmy, you are a hack. 0.99

01:55:41.000 You are just the pits. 1.00

01:55:44.000 The absolute pits. 1.00

01:55:46.000 And I'm ashamed to share airtime with you.

01:55:48.000 We'll keep you abreast.

01:55:50.000 As this story unfolds, the lateral of Crowder... 0.99

01:55:55.000 Jimmy, you're a real prick. 0.99

01:55:57.000 Glad to be back. 1.00

01:56:16.000 Follow this man.

01:56:17.000 Watch his show.

01:56:18.000 YouTube.com slash Rubin Report.

01:56:20.000 Hey, Dave Rubin, what's going on with your show?

01:56:22.000 Real quick before we continue.

01:56:24.000 Holy cow, Crowder.

01:56:25.000 What a week.

01:56:27.000 So you knew.

01:56:28.000 You were one of the few people who were on the inside.

01:56:30.000 You knew what was happening three weeks ago.

01:56:33.000 And you know I can keep a secret now.

01:56:35.000 Finally, because I have a couple other things I want to tell you.

01:56:39.000 Some of them should be directed at Not Gay Jared.

01:56:42.000 Some of them I can absorb.

01:56:43.000 So I was with Aura TV since September, which has been great.

01:56:47.000 It's Larry King's digital network.

01:56:48.000 They've been great to me.

01:56:49.000 The fact that Larry King, the true king of talk, thought that I was someone that was worthy of bringing in has been amazing to me.

01:56:57.000 But I decided over the last couple of weeks, it was just time to own my thing.

01:57:01.000 I've seen what you've done.

01:57:02.000 I've seen what guys like Joe Rogan have done and Adam Carolla and a couple other guys.

01:57:06.000 And I was just like, my audience is there now.

01:57:09.000 I know what I'm saying.

01:57:09.000 The fact that I'm doing this from the left as the left is crumbling, there's a space for me.

01:57:14.000 And I wanted to try it on my own.

01:57:15.000 So we were going the fan-funding route as of this week.

01:57:18.000 And we started on Monday.

01:57:20.000 And right now, I think as of a few minutes ago, we're at $18,000 a month already.

01:57:24.000 Wow.

01:57:25.000 Which is awesome.

01:57:26.000 And it's just from the fans.

01:57:27.000 And I'll be beholden to my fans.

01:57:29.000 And I'll just keep saying what I think.

01:57:31.000 And it's pretty sweet.

01:57:32.000 So Larry King's still alive.

01:57:34.000 That's cool.

01:57:34.000 Larry's alive.

01:57:35.000 Another news.

01:57:38.000 Well, hold on.

01:57:39.000 Where can people go if they want to do this?

01:57:40.000 Because honestly, people, if you're listening, Ruben Report, you can just even give them a couple bucks a month.

01:57:45.000 I highly recommend it.

01:57:46.000 The guy does good stuff.

01:57:47.000 He comes in the show.

01:57:48.000 He's had me on his show, even though a lot of his audience at the time hated me.

01:57:51.000 Where can people go?

01:57:53.000 Well, first off, when we get you back next time in LA, and by the way, not only that, you've also been to the studio.

01:57:58.000 I think you're the only one who's been to my studio.

01:58:00.000 That was a DL operation right there.

01:58:02.000 But you can go to rubenreport.com slash donate or patreon.com slash rubenreport and all the stuff's there.

01:58:09.000 And you get all kinds of, you know, we do one-on-one Skypes and all kinds of fun stuff if you want to jump in on that.

01:58:13.000 And it's cool.

01:58:14.000 I'm grabbing a hold of my operation, which is what you've done.

01:58:18.000 And I really think that's the future of this whole thing.

01:58:20.000 But real quick, on Larry King.

01:58:22.000 Larry not only has been great to me, but now I'm invited to his morning breakfast.

01:58:25.000 He has his old crew of guys.

01:58:27.000 They do breakfast five days a week, and they talk sports, and they talk politics, and they fight, and they argue, and they tell jokes.

01:58:33.000 And I went a couple times last week.

01:58:35.000 It's just great.

01:58:36.000 It's like a mess.

01:58:37.000 Do they roll a casket with Larry wherever he goes as a preemptive measure?

01:58:40.000 Come on.

01:58:40.000 Come on, now.

01:58:41.000 He is a great man.

01:58:42.000 You know what?

01:58:43.000 Imagine if me, you, Milo...

01:58:46.000 Dave Rubin!

01:58:47.000 A Jew, correct? 0.94

01:58:50.000 Correct.

01:58:50.000 That's how his interviews go.

01:58:53.000 I watched him interview Andrew W.K. He said, Andrew W.K., there's a rumor that you're not real.

01:59:02.000 He didn't even ask a question.

01:59:02.000 And that was it.

01:59:03.000 That was it.

01:59:04.000 That was it.

01:59:06.000 But imagine us for 30 years.

01:59:09.000 Imagine us in 50 years doing what we're doing right now, but having breakfast while we're doing it.

01:59:14.000 No, he's tried to evolve.

01:59:14.000 It's so cool being in his crew.

01:59:16.000 Yeah.

01:59:16.000 Okay, so what I want to get to, we said we might have some disagreements on gun control.

01:59:19.000 Sure.

01:59:20.000 Real quick, because we don't have a ton of time.

01:59:21.000 What is your position on this?

01:59:23.000 You're saying keeping the guns out of hands of people.

01:59:25.000 So I just want to hear your position, if you can surmise it in like 30, 45 seconds, so we can get down the trail of deconstruction.

01:59:30.000 Well, I didn't say keeping guns out of the hands of people.

01:59:33.000 I said there are certain people who shouldn't have guns.

01:59:36.000 Everyone knows that.

01:59:36.000 If you're on the terrorist watch list, you shouldn't have a gun.

01:59:38.000 I mean, that's, you know, I'm pretty sure you agree with me on that.

01:59:40.000 No.

01:59:41.000 You don't agree with me. 0.85

01:59:42.000 If you're on the terrorist watch list, you should have a gun.

01:59:44.000 Okay, what about the no-fly list?

01:59:45.000 Are you including that?

01:59:46.000 Because people use them interchangeably as well.

01:59:48.000 So I know there's a difference between the terrorist watch list and the no-fly list.

01:59:48.000 Right.

01:59:51.000 But not a huge difference.

01:59:53.000 You can be put on, and there's no appeal, there's no due process, and there's no way to get off.

01:59:59.000 And remember, Napolitano said that right-wing Christians should be flagged as domestic terrorists.

02:00:05.000 Anyone can be put on.

02:00:06.000 Anyone has been put on without due process.

02:00:09.000 And this guy wasn't on it.

02:00:10.000 You don't even know sometimes, so you're boarding a flight.

02:00:13.000 Yeah, the flight list, but even the terrorists don't even know.

02:00:15.000 Well, not only was this guy not on it, but he was on other FBI watch lists, and they totally dropped the ball on it.

02:00:20.000 So you know I'm not going to come in here and defend the government, right?

02:00:22.000 No, but they took him off. 0.99

02:00:24.000 Right, but that's proving my point, that these guys are pretty inept anyway. 0.96

02:00:28.000 Right, but that's my point.

02:00:29.000 So my point is, you can't use a terror watch list or no fly list.

02:00:32.000 It doesn't mean anything.

02:00:33.000 So I would say this.

02:00:34.000 Look, forgetting the nitty gritty, which we can't solve in 30 seconds, I would say that if your issue is guns, then you at the very least have to have an honest discussion about Islamism. 0.78

02:00:45.000 But if the left won't have an honest discussion about Islamism, then guess what?

02:00:48.000 You're never going to have the discussion about guns.

02:00:50.000 There's a legitimate debate, an honest debate to have about guns.

02:00:54.000 And I probably am somewhere more to the left than you on that.

02:00:56.000 I think there's some control that would make sense.

02:00:59.000 But I'm absolutely for the Second Amendment, and I believe people have the right to bear arms.

02:01:04.000 But that being said, if you just never let people have the honest discussion about a doctrine that literally says kill you as the nonbeliever and kill the gays and subjugate women and all of that stuff, if you're not allowed to talk about that, then you can't tell those people to take away their guns.

02:01:19.000 So I understand.

02:01:21.000 Your people like you, I understand.

02:01:22.000 We agree on that.

02:01:23.000 And I need to get to some of the disagreement because you are filling in for a coward who refused to come on the show.

02:01:29.000 So we need someone to...

02:01:30.000 So I need to do this.

02:01:31.000 I'm not trying to be mean, but every leftist drops out and you're far more reasonable, but let's just pretend you're not.

02:01:35.000 So the terror watch list and no fly list doesn't mean anything.

02:01:38.000 Let me ask you this.

02:01:39.000 Because I genuinely think that people in Los Angeles...

02:01:39.000 This is genuine, okay?

02:01:42.000 I was just on the phone with Google.

02:01:43.000 With people over there in Google at the executive offices.

02:01:45.000 And I asked her, I said, do you have a gun?

02:01:48.000 I said, have you ever known anyone who's purchased a firearm?

02:01:48.000 She said, no.

02:01:50.000 She said, no, I've never known anyone who's needed one.

02:01:52.000 And that is such a bias that people don't understand.

02:01:54.000 They can't possibly know. 1.00

02:01:56.000 So I don't say this to say you're stupid, but I do think that most people in California, particularly in the big cities, are incredibly ignorant when it comes to firearms. 1.00

02:02:05.000 And they need to be educated. 1.00

02:02:06.000 And that's why I say...

02:02:07.000 Matter of fact, I'm buying you a gun.

02:02:09.000 I'm buying you a gun, Dave Ruben.

02:02:10.000 I'm going to send it to you so you can see what the process is like.

02:02:13.000 Because people who've never purchased a firearm, yes, I will do it.

02:02:16.000 People who've never purchased a firearm, you're going to have to go through so much paperwork, you'll never believe again that people are just buying guns willy-nilly.

02:02:22.000 Let me ask you this.

02:02:23.000 I like the idea of you buying a gun, but just the paperwork?

02:02:26.000 Do I have to do the paperwork, or do you do the paperwork?

02:02:28.000 That's the point.

02:02:28.000 And we'll have you videotape it, because these people are going out acting like there's no paperwork, no background check.

02:02:33.000 When I say semi-automatic...

02:02:35.000 I'm so backed up on paperwork right now.

02:02:36.000 But when I say semi-automatic...

02:02:36.000 Okay.

02:02:38.000 You're Jewish. 0.75

02:02:38.000 You should love paperwork. 0.75

02:02:39.000 You get into the legal stuff all the time.

02:02:41.000 When I say semi-automatic...

02:02:43.000 Yeah.

02:02:44.000 What do you think?

02:02:45.000 What does that mean?

02:02:47.000 So listen, I'm not a gun aficionado. 1.00

02:02:50.000 I don't say it to make you sound stupid. 0.99

02:02:52.000 It'd be like asking me what a specific carburetor is. 1.00

02:02:55.000 I wouldn't know.

02:02:56.000 Right?

02:02:56.000 Right.

02:02:57.000 So when someone says semi-automatic to me, my sense is that with a semi-automatic, you can press once and you're going to get a certain amount of rounds out.

02:03:04.000 And that is basically a semi-automatic.

02:03:06.000 One.

02:03:07.000 Only one.

02:03:08.000 One round.

02:03:08.000 Ever.

02:03:09.000 One round.

02:03:09.000 One trigger pull.

02:03:10.000 One round.

02:03:11.000 That's every gun outside of bolt action or pump action.

02:03:15.000 So I say that because, like I said, a certain amount of rounds.

02:03:17.000 And again, I'm not at all trying to insult you, so don't think this is an ambush.

02:03:21.000 But you say a certain amount of rounds.

02:03:23.000 You probably thought, right, when I say semi-automatic, maybe burst fire?

02:03:26.000 Yeah.

02:03:28.000 Yeah.

02:03:30.000 That's not legal unless you have a specific license.

02:03:33.000 That's a lot of paperwork and very expensive.

02:03:35.000 So here's my point.

02:03:36.000 Huge waiting list time.

02:03:37.000 Huge waiting list time.

02:03:38.000 I understand that most people are like you.

02:03:40.000 They don't fully know what it is.

02:03:41.000 But the second you've owned a firearm, you know what a semi-automatic is.

02:03:44.000 So that's where I ask you, I challenge leftists, if when you hear Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, whoever it is, using that as a term to conflate the issues.

02:03:52.000 They obviously know better, but they're deliberately using it to mislead Americans into thinking what you thought until we had this conversation.

02:04:00.000 Well, so that's also why people come from this from different schools.

02:04:04.000 So the world that I live in, what I've been trying to do is talk about ideas.

02:04:08.000 I've been trying to talk about ideology.

02:04:09.000 I've been trying to talk about means that make people do things.

02:04:12.000 So if we were to get into any of that, if we could get into any of that, you're not going to get me on any of that.

02:04:17.000 So I don't focus on that part.

02:04:19.000 I'm not trying to get you.

02:04:20.000 No, no, no, no.

02:04:21.000 I got it.

02:04:22.000 It's politicians who are misleading, and it's very easy to mislead people in LA or New York, not so much the rest of the country. 0.86

02:04:28.000 And that's why it creates this mindset of civil war, and they treat people like these dumb bumpkins, whereas the fact is, when it comes to firearms, there are people who know anything and people who know nothing. 0.95

02:04:39.000 And my issue is, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, they're surrounded by semi-automatics. 0.95

02:04:43.000 You have to attribute it to collusion.

02:04:45.000 And so it's the same thing with the terror list.

02:04:47.000 It doesn't mean anything.

02:04:49.000 You can be put on it.

02:04:50.000 You could be put on a tear list or no-fly list if Donald Trump wins and he doesn't like you for speaking out against him.

02:04:56.000 Just for coming on the show.

02:04:58.000 He didn't like me either.

02:04:59.000 Trust me, I'm sure he wouldn't be thrilled with that with my show either.

02:05:02.000 But my bigger point was, I know you're not trying to get me on that.

02:05:05.000 My bigger point was that people like us who are in the public space, we come at this from different philosophical parts.

02:05:05.000 I'm not worried about that.

02:05:12.000 So you come at it more of you want to protect the Second Amendment in its sort of purest form.

02:05:17.000 And I'm coming more at the philosophical side of some of the ideological stuff.

02:05:21.000 But that's why these conversations have to happen.

02:05:23.000 Look, I have a lot to learn about things.

02:05:27.000 Yes, I bet.

02:05:28.000 I bet if you had a firearm, if you'd ever purchased a firearm, or if you knew what an AR-15 was or went and fired it, you would never have the same opinion on the Second Amendment again.

02:05:28.000 Here's the one thing.

02:05:36.000 I mean, philosophically, you wouldn't, if you understood what these firearms are.

02:05:41.000 That's why it's important.

02:05:41.000 That's why I say it.

02:05:42.000 You come here and do the paperwork.

02:05:43.000 Will you do the paperwork?

02:05:44.000 I just hate paperwork.

02:05:45.000 No, no.

02:05:46.000 That's the whole point.

02:05:47.000 I'm starting a gift a gun, hashtag gift a gun, because anyone who's ever purchased a firearm can call BS when people are out there spouting these talking points.

02:05:56.000 You will never believe it again that someone is legally purchasing a firearm or an automatic weapon without a background check.

02:06:01.000 Once you've ever purchased a firearm, you'll never believe it again.

02:06:04.000 That's not to get you.

02:06:06.000 It is such a pivotal moment in someone's view on the Second Amendment.

02:06:10.000 And an AR-15 is a glorified, high-pressure.22 round.

02:06:14.000 It's less powerful than the hunting rifles that I have here in this house.

02:06:18.000 So, like you've talked about, education, though, specifically on guns, the technicalities matter because people think of them as these scary things and don't know what they are, and they're deliberately being misled.

02:06:29.000 Can I get that gun that Jesse Ventura had in Predator?

02:06:32.000 Do you have that?

02:06:33.000 I would like that firearm as well.

02:06:35.000 What do you call it?

02:06:36.000 A minigun?

02:06:37.000 I don't remember that.

02:06:37.000 I didn't see that one.

02:06:39.000 That thing was awesome.

02:06:40.000 I don't think that thing was real.

02:06:41.000 I interviewed him once and he said it was like actually being held by somebody off camera because it wasn't even like a real thing.

02:06:47.000 No, no, no.

02:06:47.000 It's not practical.

02:06:49.000 The term assault weapon doesn't mean anything.

02:06:52.000 I've used this as an example.

02:06:53.000 I've talked about this.

02:06:54.000 It's not loaded.

02:06:55.000 This is illegal.

02:06:57.000 I don't know if it's illegal in California, but that is a basic revolver, right?

02:07:02.000 Well, that has over 10 rounds.

02:07:04.000 That's beyond capacity.

02:07:06.000 That's an assault weapon.

02:07:07.000 So people need to understand that.

02:07:09.000 That is an assault weapon.

02:07:10.000 You can have a basic hunting rifle that's an assault weapon.

02:07:12.000 You can have an AR-15 or a gun that this guy used, depending on modification, that isn't.

02:07:16.000 And so I really do think information on what these firearms are is important because it's one of those issues, right?

02:07:23.000 Probably like the freedom of speech issue.

02:07:24.000 Once you speak on campus, you see that it's real.

02:07:27.000 Once somebody fires a firearm or purchases one, their opinion changes forever.

02:07:32.000 They're never pro-gun control.

02:07:33.000 It doesn't happen.

02:07:34.000 Right.

02:07:35.000 And actually, that's why the truth of what we're talking about when you talk about Orlando is right smack in between of what we're talking about.

02:07:41.000 So you're laying out serious and understandable cases about guns and all that.

02:07:48.000 And then what I'm talking about is the ideology that would allow people to pick up one of those things and say, I'm going to murder innocent people.

02:07:56.000 Right.

02:07:57.000 And it's those two things together.

02:07:58.000 So, of course, the hysterics on both sides are always going to say, if you want to hide the truth about Islamism, you'll say it's about guns.

02:08:05.000 If you want to hide the truth about guns, you'll say it's about Islamism. 0.97

02:08:07.000 You know, and all that.

02:08:08.000 But the truth is, it's right in the middle.

02:08:10.000 And I know that you, for whatever weapons you have in your house right now, I'm pretty sure that Stephen Crowder is not going out to shoot innocent people tonight, because as much as people may say you're a racist bigot, blah, blah, blah, that actually hate isn't in your heart, even though you want people to think that it is.

02:08:26.000 Oh, you better be careful, sir.

02:08:28.000 If you come meet me in Texas territory, you are in for a rude awakening.

02:08:32.000 When I get with my boys and we throw back some Bud Lights in the pickup truck, you don't want to be around me.

02:08:37.000 Come on, when we met on the street the other day, you gave me a hug.

02:08:40.000 You wouldn't let go.

02:08:42.000 It was very uncomfortable.

02:08:43.000 He must have smelled really good. 0.98

02:08:43.000 I told you this guy's gay. 0.98

02:08:45.000 He's a lovely guy. 0.99

02:08:45.000 I bet he smells gay. 0.99

02:08:46.000 And the first thing he said, he goes, I knew you were a big guy. 0.99

02:08:49.000 I didn't realize.

02:08:51.000 People always say that.

02:08:51.000 I think it's because they have a relatively small head compared to most broadcasters.

02:08:54.000 You're very, you're large.

02:08:56.000 I'm large and in charge.

02:08:56.000 You're very large.

02:08:58.000 And I would disagree.

02:08:59.000 I don't think the truth here is in the middle.

02:09:01.000 And I think you would agree the truth here is more toward the right where it is an Islamic problem and we need to acknowledge it. 1.00

02:09:06.000 The ideology is more important.

02:09:07.000 But yeah, if we need to get you either a firearm or get you to a range, we'll make a video because I think that is one of the issues.

02:09:14.000 It saves lives.

02:09:15.000 Good example, kids, when they were put in a room alone with a gun, what they never tell you is that the 20 kids that were playing, they were put in the mouth, the two kids who were entirely responsible, it was the only two kids who were trained with guns.

02:09:24.000 It changes the way you approach.

02:09:25.000 I'm sorry, we're going to a break.

02:09:26.000 Mr.

02:09:27.000 Ruben, we have to let you go.

02:09:28.000 Ruben, youtube.com slash Ruben Report.

02:09:31.000 Oh, here you go.

02:09:31.000 Done.

02:09:32.000 Sega Genesis now.

02:09:33.000 We got the Sonic song.

02:09:34.000 Oh, Sonic, there you go.

02:09:34.000 Yeah.

02:09:36.000 Nice.

02:09:36.000 Oh, there's Sonic.

02:09:37.000 And we have to go.

02:09:38.000 I didn't hug Dave Ruben.

02:09:39.000 That never happened.

02:09:40.000 That's all.

02:09:40.000 I let it with Crowder.

02:09:41.000 Stay tuned.

02:09:42.000 Stop it! 0.99

02:09:42.000 You hug. 0.99

02:09:43.000 Ha ha! 0.86

02:09:44.000 Here we go!

02:09:52.000 Hopper! Hopper!

02:10:15.000 Hopper! Hopper! Hopper! Hopper! Hopper! Hopper! Hopper! Hopper! Hopper!

02:10:33.000 Yeah!

02:10:35.000 Feel the hopper! Hopper! Hopper! Hopper! 0.81

02:10:43.000 I'm hungry.

02:10:45.000 We'll be right back.

02:11:15.000 We'll be right back.

02:11:27.000 Got caught in the Riptide.

02:11:27.000 Glad to be back.

02:11:29.000 There are monsters in these here parts.

02:11:32.000 There are monsters around these parts.

02:11:33.000 These parts.

02:11:34.000 They're not very nice around these parts here with Riptides. 1.00

02:11:36.000 Dave Rubin, at Dave Rubin.

02:11:38.000 Go give the guy some dough. 0.74

02:11:40.000 Up to $18,000 a month in fan funding.

02:11:40.000 Good for him.

02:11:42.000 Man, the world has changed.

02:11:45.000 He is more honest than Walter Cronkite, or Dan Rather, or Larry King.

02:11:51.000 I know he likes Larry King.

02:11:52.000 Twice the stud. 1.00

02:11:53.000 Larry King's full of crap, man. 1.00

02:11:56.000 I don't like Larry King. 0.99

02:11:58.000 I'm sure he's a nice guy, but have you ever seen his interviews lately?

02:12:01.000 I'm not.

02:12:02.000 I tend to avoid most interviews.

02:12:04.000 He'll interview Jenna Marbles.

02:12:06.000 She's on YouTube.

02:12:06.000 He goes, So, Jenna, you're a YouTube star.

02:12:11.000 Yes.

02:12:12.000 What's that like?

02:12:15.000 That's his actual interview.

02:12:16.000 Andrew WK, some people say you are not real.

02:12:20.000 What else?

02:12:20.000 He goes, Why the white?

02:12:22.000 Why the white?

02:12:23.000 Well, you know, I just, this is the way I dress, and I feel, uh-huh.

02:12:28.000 What kind of shirt are you wearing?

02:12:30.000 And I know Andrew W.K. wears Fruit of the Loom, because that was what fascinated Larry King.

02:12:35.000 Do you ever wear different pants?

02:12:39.000 Larry.

02:12:40.000 You're concerning us.

02:12:43.000 Big week.

02:12:43.000 Man, busy week.

02:12:44.000 I feel like it was so tight, we didn't get to fit everything in.

02:12:46.000 There were a lot of things I wanted to talk about.

02:12:48.000 That's what she said, and that was the problem for lots of individuals.

02:12:53.000 Stop it! 0.99

02:12:55.000 I'm ashamed.

02:12:55.000 You should feel great shame.

02:12:58.000 These are nice people, this audience here.

02:13:00.000 It depends on what they're listening.

02:13:02.000 I don't believe that about everybody. 0.99

02:13:04.000 Gosh, Islam, though, talk about a religion that is just cursed. 1.00

02:13:11.000 Mecca? 0.98

02:13:11.000 Can you imagine that? 0.98

02:13:13.000 Mecca, how many...

02:13:13.000 I mean, just stampedes that have happened.

02:13:16.000 The crane that happened.

02:13:17.000 The crane, remember the lightning.

02:13:19.000 Is that...

02:13:19.000 If I remember right, there was a cool video.

02:13:21.000 I won't say cool because people died. 0.99

02:13:23.000 Holy crap! 1.00

02:13:23.000 Shut up! 1.00

02:13:24.000 But the lightning was cool. 1.00

02:13:24.000 For the rest of all time with this. 1.00

02:13:27.000 It was a crazy video.

02:13:29.000 Stuff happened.

02:13:30.000 Back to you, Steven.

02:13:32.000 No, seriously.

02:13:33.000 First off, you have the tramplings.

02:13:35.000 Then the crane, that's your holy site in Mecca.

02:13:37.000 Could you imagine going to Jesus' tomb and there's a caterpillar tractor?

02:13:41.000 No.

02:13:42.000 Running down like, oh, where was the empty tomb found?

02:13:46.000 Well, you make a left at the John Deere tractor.

02:13:49.000 It's like, you know, you go to the zoo and your favorite part's on the construction.

02:13:51.000 It's a huge bummer.

02:13:52.000 It's really distracting.

02:13:53.000 It ruins the mood.

02:13:54.000 It's not good for anybody.

02:13:55.000 But it is a rough, rough religion.

02:13:58.000 And...

02:13:59.000 Man, I will tell you this.

02:13:59.000 I openly say this, and I think there are plenty of Muslims out there, of course, who are decent people.

02:14:05.000 But listen, they are apostates in the general history of Islam, and I think Islam is evil. 1.00

02:14:09.000 I will say this. 0.99

02:14:10.000 I've said it before. 1.00

02:14:11.000 Islam is the great evil of our time. 1.00

02:14:14.000 By the way, if you want me to actually try and set up sending a firearm to Dave Rubin, Tweet me. 0.98

02:14:20.000 I wonder how we can do that.

02:14:22.000 I think you can do it.

02:14:23.000 You can order to California to an FFL. It's just a really hard process.

02:14:26.000 It is a hard process.

02:14:27.000 You can't carry, and it's hard to have it in your house.

02:14:30.000 But I really do think that is an issue.

02:14:32.000 Hashtag gift a gun.

02:14:33.000 The more people who have firearms, the more people who go through the paperwork, and of course if you gift it, get them some kind of access to a course, or if you send them to a respectable FFL dealer, they almost always advise a safety course.

02:14:45.000 You did one.

02:14:46.000 Yeah, they don't offer them there.

02:14:47.000 They have contacts for people who offer courses.

02:14:50.000 I did one as well.

02:14:52.000 Never stop training.

02:14:54.000 Never stop.

02:14:55.000 You never stop training.

02:14:56.000 And it's fun to train with a firearm.

02:14:58.000 It is fun.

02:14:58.000 Someone today said, name me one thing about firearms that is good for society.

02:15:04.000 Here's the thing.

02:15:05.000 The right to firearms isn't necessarily about society.

02:15:07.000 It's about individual rights.

02:15:08.000 And that's one thing people do a lot.

02:15:09.000 They conflate individual, God-given human rights with society.

02:15:13.000 The thing about the Second Amendment, and people will tell you about the Constitution, this is important because I wanted to go back to the sort of rant earlier that people seem to react to.

02:15:21.000 Maybe we'll archive that as its own video.

02:15:23.000 People say, well, the Constitution was written by white racists and slavery. 0.94

02:15:26.000 Well, here's what's so crazy about that.

02:15:29.000 Slavery was the law of the land, and it continued.

02:15:32.000 And they put in inalienable rights, and that was what was found to be unconstitutional.

02:15:37.000 They said, you can't have rights given to them by God.

02:15:40.000 This would have never come to fruition with atheists. 0.99

02:15:42.000 It doesn't mean there aren't good atheists, but this is reality as far as history.

02:15:44.000 They said you can't have an alienable rights because that means the rights are given to them by God, not by government.

02:15:49.000 We're not giving them these rights.

02:15:51.000 And we can't have that. 0.91

02:15:54.000 And then say that we're going to take away rights from black people.

02:15:57.000 That's the justification for ending slavery.

02:16:00.000 That language and alienable rights. 0.99

02:16:01.000 You need to understand that.

02:16:02.000 So it was the law of the land.

02:16:03.000 They found that it wasn't reconcilable with the Constitution.

02:16:06.000 Now, and it wasn't included.

02:16:08.000 It was omitted because it was the law of the land.

02:16:09.000 Here's the difference with the Second Amendment.

02:16:11.000 And it was fixed.

02:16:12.000 The Second Amendment, the law of the land, was citizens didn't get guns.

02:16:16.000 From the old world.

02:16:18.000 Citizens were not allowed to be... 0.99

02:16:23.000 To have the capabilities to fight off a government.

02:16:25.000 That was the law of the land, and they expressly went out of their way to say, we are changing the way we do this.

02:16:32.000 Took them a while with slavery, still before most other countries, but the Second Amendment was right away. 0.94

02:16:37.000 Why?

02:16:37.000 Because they just fought off a tyrannical government.

02:16:40.000 They knew they couldn't do it without it.

02:16:42.000 And George Washington, people just love to throw it around.

02:16:45.000 Listen.

02:16:47.000 I'm not the history buff, but I've read quite a bit on the Founding Fathers.

02:16:51.000 George Washington is one of the very, very few people in history.

02:16:54.000 And I mean of the best presidents, of the best world leaders throughout any empire or great nation who walked away and said, I don't want this power.

02:17:03.000 And people were saying, you need to be...

02:17:04.000 They loved him.

02:17:06.000 George Washington probably could have been president until the day he died.

02:17:11.000 He said, nope.

02:17:12.000 Too much power for one man.

02:17:13.000 Can't do it.

02:17:15.000 That is incredibly noble.

02:17:16.000 And these are people who said, nope, too much power.

02:17:19.000 If you look at these founding fathers, they pushed away the power that people, because that's human nature.

02:17:23.000 They want to give certain people power.

02:17:25.000 Give unto us a king.

02:17:26.000 And they said, no.

02:17:28.000 And also, let's make sure that all of you have the ability to fight off a king.

02:17:31.000 So it is very different.

02:17:32.000 People will try and tell you, well, the Constitution is dated.

02:17:34.000 It was written by racist white men as Samantha Bee, who uses Salon or Slate as sources unironically. 0.76

02:17:40.000 The Second Amendment, when taken, literally, is very, very clear.

02:17:45.000 When you give it more context, it's even more clear.

02:17:48.000 Let's contrast that with what I believe to be the great evil of our time, Islam. 1.00

02:17:52.000 When taken literally, kill them wherever they lie. 1.00

02:17:54.000 When taken literally, beat your wife. 1.00

02:17:56.000 When taken literally, kill all Christians and Jews. 1.00

02:17:58.000 It's really bad. 0.99

02:18:00.000 When taken more contextually, and you understand abrogation in Muhammad's later work superseding the earlier work, it gets increasingly violent.

02:18:07.000 When taken more contextually, the Quran gets worse.

02:18:11.000 So again, with the Second Amendment and Quran, the literal interpretation seems really clear. 0.90

02:18:16.000 And the context only adds to that.

02:18:18.000 So get the context.

02:18:20.000 Do your research.

02:18:21.000 Read the Quran.

02:18:22.000 Read the Constitution.

Louder with Crowder - June 17, 2016

#79 ISLAMOPHOBIA OH NOES!! Dave Rubin, Gerald Morgan and Anni Cyrus | Louder With Crowder

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript