Louder with Crowder - #80 BLACKFACE MAYBE?! Andrew Klavan, Skagg3 and TalkIslam Rebuttal! | Louder With Crowder

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00:00:07.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

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00:00:12.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:00:14.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:00:17.000 You have a very unhealthy body.

00:00:18.000 You should have a horrible body image. 0.91

00:00:19.000 Not a big home and fruit market, New Jersey.

00:00:22.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

00:00:24.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal. 0.97

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00:00:35.000 It's the fourth week in June, which marks Louder with Crowder's fourth installment of Cultural Appropriation Month.

00:00:48.000 Join us each week as we travel the globe, informing and illuminating you on such diverse cultures that make up the wonder that is humanity.

00:00:56.000 This week, the ancient and mysterious culture of Africa.

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00:01:03.000 Glad to be with you.

00:01:21.000 Oh, that's a cheery little tune.

00:01:23.000 That sound means it's Cultural Appropriation Month.

00:01:26.000 I am your host, Stephen Crowder, the continent of Africa.

00:01:28.000 We couldn't pick any one country because, well, it's easier to sort of point out their contributions collectively as a continent.

00:01:37.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is NotGayJarred. 0.54

00:01:42.000 You can follow him on Twitter at NotGayJarred.

00:01:44.000 I fulfill my legal obligations to draw you on conclusions.

00:01:48.000 NotGayJarred. 0.97

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00:01:50.000 Yeah.

00:01:51.000 Let him see ya.

00:01:52.000 I don't want to.

00:01:52.000 I don't...

00:01:54.000 It's okay.

00:01:57.000 Come on, let him see you.

00:01:58.000 We went through all this effort with cultural appropriation month.

00:02:00.000 I really don't want to.

00:02:01.000 If you just...

00:02:03.000 Knock it, Jared.

00:02:04.000 Come on, let him... 0.64

00:02:06.000 Let him see ya.

00:02:09.000 I... I... I can't.

00:02:11.000 I'm sorry.

00:02:11.000 I can't.

00:02:15.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.

00:02:20.000 Politics.

00:02:21.000 Civility.

00:02:22.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

00:02:24.000 Entertainment.

00:02:25.000 I don't like entertainment.

00:02:27.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:02:30.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:02:32.000 If you have a very unhealthy body, you should have a horrible body image.

00:02:34.000 Not a big home improvement market injury.

00:02:37.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

00:02:40.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal. 0.97

00:02:43.000 You're a strange animal. 0.95

00:02:46.000 That's what I know. 0.99

00:02:47.000 You're getting louder with Crowder. 0.99

00:02:51.000 But you're a strange animal.

00:02:55.000 It's the fourth week in June, which marks Louder with Crowder's fourth installment of Cultural Appropriation Month.

00:03:03.000 Join us each week as we travel the globe, informing and illuminating you on such diverse cultures that make up the wonder that is humanity.

00:03:11.000 This week, the ancient and mysterious culture of Africa.

00:03:16.000 Boombole, boombole, boombole! 0.95

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00:03:18.000 Glad to be with you.

00:03:27.000 Glad to be with you.

00:03:28.000 Gonna take this hat off.

00:03:30.000 That sound means it's the sound of the weekend.

00:03:32.000 And what a jovial song it is.

00:03:34.000 We had a bit of a false start for those watching online.

00:03:37.000 Not Gay Jared got a little bit uncomfortable.

00:03:39.000 I am your host, Stephen Crowder, producing with me in video studio as always.

00:03:44.000 Even the week where we are honoring the great, though simple, continent of Africa, on Lotta Ruth Crowder, Not Gay Jared. 0.80

00:03:52.000 You can follow him on Twitter at Not Gay Jared.

00:03:54.000 I fulfill my legal obligations, draw my own conclusions.

00:03:56.000 I am dressed in traditional African garb, and Not Gay Jared is honoring one of the greatest spokespeople for the NAACP that has been Rachel Dolza.

00:04:06.000 Yeah, she's a great woman, model for everyone, really. 0.99

00:04:09.000 She's a strong woman.

00:04:10.000 Strong woman.

00:04:10.000 You look a little more like the guitarist from Korn.

00:04:13.000 Well, they are looking back.

00:04:14.000 So you can tweet me, I think Rachel Dolezal was a good move. 1.00

00:04:23.000 It was a refreshing change.

00:04:25.000 And this isn't an African hat at all.

00:04:27.000 But it looks great.

00:04:27.000 No.

00:04:28.000 I don't know what this is.

00:04:29.000 It looks great.

00:04:30.000 So we have great guests tonight.

00:04:31.000 We have Andrew Klavan.

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00:04:33.000 We have Skagg. 0.63

00:04:34.000 Well, his name is Matt Skagg, but I don't know.

00:04:35.000 Yeah, Skagg.

00:04:36.000 Skagg3.

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00:04:38.000 Great commentator.

00:04:39.000 Up and comer on YouTube.

00:04:40.000 We have Matt George from Georgia.

00:04:42.000 An exclusive interview with a man, actually.

00:04:44.000 Muslim couple allegedly tried to abduct his child.

00:04:47.000 It was a national story for a while.

00:04:51.000 Funny story.

00:04:52.000 His last name is completely coincidental to the state of Georgia.

00:04:56.000 Coincidental?

00:04:57.000 Coincidental.

00:04:57.000 Coincidental to the fact that he lives in Georgia.

00:04:59.000 I'm not wearing a stupid hat. 1.00

00:05:00.000 How crazy is that? 1.00

00:05:01.000 Well, it's not that crazy.

00:05:02.000 There are a lot of people with the name George.

00:05:04.000 Okay, so a lot happened this week.

00:05:05.000 We're also going to rebut Talk Islam. 0.84

00:05:08.000 We are going to give you, starting a new segment, Top 5 Crappiest Myths Regarding Gun Control Right Now.

00:05:17.000 That's a big, hot topic.

00:05:19.000 And we're going, of course, going to rebut Talk Islam. 0.97

00:05:21.000 Next week, we're going to expose Talk Islam. 0.98

00:05:22.000 I have a lot of information on them from behind the scenes.

00:05:25.000 That I'm sure they don't want getting out there.

00:05:27.000 This week we are going to expose Michael Woods Jr.

00:05:30.000 because a lot of these people have either come out and attacked me or invited to bait and then not shown up.

00:05:35.000 We don't go after people just for the sake of going after people, but when they open that door, it is our job to make an example of them. 0.95

00:05:42.000 Michael Woods Jr., you done screwed up.

00:05:45.000 So later in the show, that's going to be a rough one.

00:05:47.000 Right off the bat, obviously, gun control is a hot topic this week.

00:05:49.000 We talked about it quite a bit last week.

00:05:51.000 I'm sure we'll talk about it with our guests.

00:05:53.000 But I was on Sky News this week.

00:05:55.000 Let me set this up for you really quickly.

00:05:57.000 I don't do TV a whole lot.

00:05:59.000 In fact, I don't do it at all.

00:06:01.000 My policy is I don't do any outside media unless I can do it from this studio, or unless I'm a fan.

00:06:06.000 Like Joe Rogan, I'm actually a fan.

00:06:08.000 I've followed Joe Rogan for a long time, or like Adam Carolla.

00:06:11.000 It takes too much time away from what we do here at Ladder with Crowder, so I can't go to a satellite studio or fly across the country.

00:06:18.000 So my policy is I don't do any media unless I can do it straight from this studio that we've built, which is actually nicer than most of the studios that a lot of these other people.

00:06:27.000 It's just too much time.

00:06:29.000 So, Sky News has been asking me for a while.

00:06:32.000 I said, no, not unless I can do the home studio.

00:06:34.000 They finally said, okay, we need an American who's pro-Second Amendment for today. 0.86

00:06:38.000 Can you do it?

00:06:39.000 I said, for my home studio.

00:06:40.000 They said, sure.

00:06:41.000 So I went on with this host, Not Gay Jared, let's just play a quick clip and then I can give people some context.

00:06:48.000 Do we not have audio?

00:06:50.000 It is coming right up.

00:06:52.000 I'm having difficulty trying to understand your line of argument.

00:06:55.000 Are you trying to say there's a safe gun, for instance?

00:07:00.000 Of course, yeah.

00:07:01.000 I have a gun on my hip right now.

00:07:02.000 It's never shot anybody.

00:07:03.000 Why do you need a gun in the studio?

00:07:06.000 Well, let me explain to you why I actually have a fatwa on my head because I've drawn Mohammed. 0.94

00:07:10.000 So that's my reason, and I would never assume to actually copy-paste my reason or know the motive for any person who might need their basic fundamental human right to self-preservation.

00:07:20.000 Why do you need security guards there in the studio?

00:07:22.000 I haven't got security guards here in the studio.

00:07:24.000 There's no security in that studio?

00:07:25.000 No.

00:07:26.000 I've got a floor manager, but he's not very secure.

00:07:28.000 I don't believe you, by the way.

00:07:29.000 That's false.

00:07:30.000 I verified it.

00:07:31.000 They do have security there at Sky News.

00:07:32.000 You don't just waltz on in.

00:07:34.000 People just had no idea what's around them.

00:07:36.000 He's just not observant at all.

00:07:38.000 He'd be a terrible concealed carry holder.

00:07:40.000 He would be a terrible concealed carry holder.

00:07:42.000 Here's why it's so important.

00:07:43.000 People are going, well, this is why I don't like doing a lot of media.

00:07:45.000 Let me give you a contrast.

00:07:47.000 Dave Rubin came on the show.

00:07:48.000 Dave Rubin is certainly more left of center than I am.

00:07:52.000 And he came on the show.

00:07:53.000 We have a long time to talk, right?

00:07:54.000 We have longer segments.

00:07:55.000 It's more conversational.

00:07:56.000 And Dave Rubin says, well, I think we could both agree on keeping the hands out of terrorists with the no-fly, no-buy sort of business.

00:08:03.000 And I said, no, we don't.

00:08:04.000 And he said, why?

00:08:05.000 And I explained it to him.

00:08:06.000 And he said, okay, I understand that due process.

00:08:09.000 Okay, so maybe we need to reform the list.

00:08:10.000 And we made progress and we moved on.

00:08:13.000 This guy, what was his name?

00:08:15.000 I didn't hear.

00:08:15.000 Michael something?

00:08:16.000 Michael something.

00:08:16.000 I didn't catch.

00:08:17.000 Something British.

00:08:18.000 But he started off with saying, you know, talking about these automatic weapons.

00:08:23.000 Right off the bat.

00:08:24.000 Automatic weapons.

00:08:25.000 And Naki J was in here producing, and I could see his face. 0.99

00:08:27.000 I know where this is going to go.

00:08:28.000 I know where this is going to happen here.

00:08:29.000 Here's the thing.

00:08:30.000 People are saying, why did you focus on that?

00:08:31.000 It is so important to define your terms.

00:08:33.000 And this is the biggest bait and switch that the left does.

00:08:35.000 They say automatic, just like this host, he used the term automatic.

00:08:39.000 They use the term automatic repeatedly.

00:08:42.000 Or assault rifles.

00:08:43.000 Usually both.

00:08:45.000 And then they use it to pivot and support legislation that has nothing to do with automatic weapons.

00:08:50.000 But semi-automatic weapons.

00:08:52.000 Which, as anyone who knows anything about firearms, understands that that is almost all modern handguns.

00:08:57.000 And a significant portion, if not most, rifles.

00:09:00.000 So they say automatic.

00:09:01.000 They say automatic.

00:09:01.000 They say scary assault weapons.

00:09:03.000 And then they say, well, why don't you support this legislation?

00:09:05.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:09:07.000 Because it has nothing to do with automatic weapons.

00:09:09.000 Can you unmute your mic there?

00:09:10.000 I'm hearing all the clickety-clickety.

00:09:12.000 So that's why it's so important.

00:09:13.000 I stayed on it with him.

00:09:15.000 And if you go watch the interview, it's up at louderwithcredit.com.

00:09:17.000 I kept saying, well, listen, can you retract the automatic statement?

00:09:20.000 Because you imply that we're talking about legislating automatic weapons.

00:09:24.000 And you go, oh, so you're saying there's a safe gun.

00:09:26.000 Well, what about a safe gun?

00:09:26.000 And so we went from automatic weapons, which was fake, a false term, right?

00:09:30.000 Those are already heavily regulated.

00:09:32.000 No automatic weapons were used in any of these recent mass shootings.

00:09:35.000 And AR-15 wasn't even used.

00:09:37.000 Then we go to assault weapons, assault rifles.

00:09:41.000 When I asked him to define it, he couldn't define it.

00:09:43.000 Then we go to...

00:09:45.000 Why would you ever need a gun?

00:09:48.000 And then we go to, of course you support the no-fly list.

00:09:52.000 And then we go to safety latch on my concealed carry gun.

00:09:55.000 Here's the thing, with English, they are so shocked.

00:09:57.000 His reaction, why would you ever need a gun in the studio?

00:10:00.000 I can't possibly imagine. 1.00

00:10:01.000 It's the same reason Charlie Hebdo should have had them, dumbass. 0.99

00:10:04.000 For the same reason you have security guards. 0.98

00:10:05.000 This is the thing with the left.

00:10:06.000 He doesn't think he has armed security guards because they're not right in front of him.

00:10:10.000 He is in a building.

00:10:11.000 With cameras, with a safe pass system, where you have a card that you swipe to go on in, with, of course, probably bulletproof glass, with, of course, armed guards, whether they're downstairs or not.

00:10:24.000 That's the case.

00:10:25.000 I've been to every single news agency there is, except for probably Sky News.

00:10:29.000 I've been to some sort of a BBC affiliate in the States, but Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, I've been to all of those places.

00:10:34.000 PBS, they all have some form of security.

00:10:37.000 But he thinks because he personally doesn't have a firearm that somehow the rules don't apply to him.

00:10:42.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:10:43.000 Most of us Americans don't have the money or the ability to afford a key card entry system and armed security guards and cameras everywhere and an entire fleet of security so we can say, well, I've never carried a gun.

00:10:55.000 The best thing you have is a firearm.

00:10:58.000 My case, alarm system, dog, firearm.

00:11:04.000 That's what you can do to protect yourself.

00:11:06.000 That is why there is such an, this is a perfect example of sort of the leftist classism.

00:11:11.000 They hate the middle and lower class, so they try and strip them of arms.

00:11:16.000 And something else, too, that I find unbelievable right now.

00:11:19.000 We talked about this and we tweeted about it.

00:11:21.000 And then other people were tweeting about it.

00:11:23.000 People are so on board with the no-fly list.

00:11:26.000 No due process at all.

00:11:28.000 The headline sounds good, to be fair.

00:11:30.000 The headline sounds great.

00:11:31.000 No-fly list.

00:11:32.000 These are the same people who are absolutely outraged that non-American terrorists... 0.98

00:11:38.000 Weren't getting due process in Guantanamo Bay, right?

00:11:41.000 They couldn't fathom it.

00:11:43.000 These terrorists, who aren't American citizens, deserve the right to a fair trial on American soil.

00:11:50.000 Law-abiding American citizens, let's toss six figures of them on a no-fly list.

00:11:54.000 Well, what about due process here?

00:11:55.000 It doesn't matter if they could potentially be dangerous.

00:11:58.000 Have they ever committed a crime?

00:11:59.000 Well, it doesn't matter.

00:12:00.000 So you have the Democrats, who are staging a sit-in, This has been going on today.

00:12:05.000 A sit-in literally to strip you of your right to a fair trial and due process.

00:12:11.000 That's what they're doing.

00:12:12.000 They are throwing a fit.

00:12:14.000 These are government officials are throwing a fit because they don't have the ability to remove your fundamental right to protection at will.

00:12:23.000 That's what will happen with the no-fly list.

00:12:25.000 There have been stories of politicians using it against – you have tons.

00:12:28.000 I know – was it Ted Kennedy?

00:12:30.000 I think Lewis himself.

00:12:32.000 Fox commentators.

00:12:33.000 Fox commentators.

00:12:34.000 But I know politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, senators and congressmen.

00:12:39.000 Who've been put on the list.

00:12:40.000 And people have alluded to the idea that there have been political opposition.

00:12:43.000 They've been doing it to screw with them.

00:12:44.000 Well, can you imagine what they can do to you, a citizen, these politicians?

00:12:48.000 So on its surface, it sounds good, but this is what's so important.

00:12:50.000 They will use the word automatic weapon, assault rifle, which isn't defined, to pivot, to push legislation that has nothing to do with those things.

00:12:58.000 And would change none of it.

00:13:00.000 And of course, we'll get into the homicide stats, the gun-related violence stats, the overall violent crime rate stats, which we did in the Sky News interview.

00:13:07.000 We can get to that, too.

00:13:08.000 But here's the thing.

00:13:08.000 If people think, well, you seem like you're getting...

00:13:10.000 Why are you focusing so much on that issue?

00:13:11.000 Because this is what the left does.

00:13:14.000 They repeat automatic weapons.

00:13:15.000 They repeat AR-15.

00:13:16.000 They repeat things that have nothing to do.

00:13:19.000 They repeat...

00:13:19.000 Just buzzwords, not even facts or statistics.

00:13:22.000 They just repeat buzzwords to drill it into your head so you accept it and then argue on their terms.

00:13:27.000 I am not willing to go on a program and just accept that he says, well, automatic weapons, which is a huge error.

00:13:35.000 Monumental error.

00:13:36.000 And if you look at Twitter response, most people believe that the Orlando shooting was carried out with a machine gun.

00:13:44.000 And they believe that the AR-15 is a machine gun.

00:13:46.000 None of those things are true.

00:13:47.000 No idea.

00:13:48.000 So it's important to note that...

00:13:50.000 And we don't have to do it on this show because things are pretty civil and we have enough time.

00:13:53.000 But on television, they keep it short and they keep it to the buzzwords and they're not honest.

00:13:58.000 And I gave this guy the benefit of the doubt at the beginning of the interview. 0.97

00:14:01.000 I thought he was ignorant. 0.99

00:14:02.000 But when you refuse to apologize, when you're verifiably false, then I've got to think you're a liar. 0.99

00:14:07.000 We'll be back after this. 0.98

00:14:08.000 More guns and terrorism or something.

00:14:10.000 Something bad.

00:14:11.000 Hello, sir.

00:14:26.000 Welcome to Sporting Rifle Emporium.

00:14:29.000 How can I help you?

00:14:30.000 Yes, hello.

00:14:30.000 My name is Neil Steinberg.

00:14:32.000 I'm with the Chicago Sun-Times, and this is my first firearm purchase.

00:14:36.000 I would like to purchase an AR-15 assault rifle.

00:14:41.000 Well, we've had a lot of reporters in here, sir.

00:14:43.000 The first thing I'll have to let you know is that it's not an assault rifle.

00:14:46.000 It's a sporting rifle.

00:14:47.000 Assault rifle doesn't really mean anything.

00:14:49.000 It's kind of an arbitrary term.

00:14:51.000 But, yeah, let's take you over here and show you.

00:14:53.000 These are our AR-15 variants.

00:14:56.000 Oh, that one looks scary.

00:14:57.000 I'll take that one.

00:14:59.000 Would you like to know anything about its features, price point?

00:15:01.000 No, this is a hit piece, whatever works.

00:15:03.000 Uh-huh, I figured.

00:15:04.000 Well, listen, that's fine.

00:15:05.000 Let's come on over here and fill out paperwork.

00:15:07.000 Uh-huh, now by paperwork, you mean a basic receipt?

00:15:09.000 No, we actually do have to run a background check.

00:15:12.000 We have to do that with every firearm sold, despite what you may hear in the country.

00:15:15.000 And do a bill of sale.

00:15:16.000 You may have to bring it to your local law enforcement office, depending where you live.

00:15:20.000 And then you can have the firearm.

00:15:22.000 So fill out this first, please.

00:15:23.000 Oh, okay.

00:15:26.000 And let me run that. 0.63

00:15:26.000 I'll be right back to you. 0.63

00:15:29.000 It's always sweet to try and put up a facade.

00:15:32.000 I bet you he's probably just filling up his coffee.

00:15:35.000 Okay, Mr.

00:15:36.000 Steinberg, we cannot sell you that rifle.

00:15:38.000 Surprise, you don't want a Chicago Sun-Times reporter exposing your dark practice, you shy from the light. 0.69

00:15:45.000 No, actually it's because it says here that you have a history of alcoholism and you beat your wife. 0.99

00:15:49.000 You're a wife beater. 1.00

00:15:50.000 I don't know how you would... 0.92

00:15:52.000 No, we ran a background check.

00:15:53.000 Turns out you're a domestic abuser, so that's a problem.

00:15:55.000 We legally can't sell you the firearm. 1.00

00:15:57.000 And on a personal note, I think you're a piece of shit. 1.00

00:16:00.000 No more hats. 1.00

00:16:21.000 They're not terribly creative with the melodies.

00:16:23.000 Yeah.

00:16:24.000 Not terribly creative with the melodies.

00:16:26.000 Oh, that's right!

00:16:26.000 It's Cultural Appropriation Month.

00:16:27.000 Sorry.

00:16:27.000 It is.

00:16:28.000 We have to appreciate the cultures that are available to us.

00:16:30.000 There's a lot to appreciate.

00:16:31.000 Hopper, go lay down.

00:16:32.000 I threw the hat not in anger.

00:16:34.000 It was a stage presence move.

00:16:37.000 Africa.

00:16:37.000 We didn't pick a specific country because I was going, well, maybe we should pick Zambia.

00:16:40.000 Maybe we should pick Zimbabwe. 1.00

00:16:41.000 Maybe we should pick South Africa. 0.85

00:16:43.000 The truth is that with the continent of...

00:16:45.000 There are a lot of things that we could...

00:16:47.000 We had to sort of expand it.

00:16:48.000 It's really just black. 0.72

00:16:50.000 It is.

00:16:51.000 I mean, there are a lot of great contributions from not only...

00:16:54.000 You're talking about the satellite imagery, not necessarily the...

00:16:57.000 Stop it.

00:16:58.000 I didn't know where you were going.

00:16:59.000 Stop it.

00:17:01.000 Stop it, Rachel Dolezal.

00:17:05.000 I mean, obviously you can have in music, you have soul, you have R&B, you have Motown, you have blues, you have rock and roll.

00:17:15.000 I mean, in sports, you have Jackie Robinson, you have Will Chamberlain.

00:17:19.000 I mean, you've got gun crime.

00:17:20.000 There are so many things that we can talk about with African Americans that they have contributed to a rich...

00:17:26.000 So this is kind of all encompassing of Africa and also their good friends who've immigrated here who are now African-American.

00:17:35.000 So here's some fun African stats for you.

00:17:39.000 I've got a couple.

00:17:41.000 Well, here's one.

00:17:42.000 South Africa has the highest number of people living with AIDS in the world.

00:17:45.000 That's an achievement.

00:17:47.000 75% of the world's poorest countries are in Africa.

00:17:52.000 Nothing to be proud of.

00:17:54.000 It's the world's most populous continent with the largest reserves of precious metals as well as 30% of the world's remaining mineral sources.

00:18:03.000 And it's still the poorest.

00:18:04.000 So I don't know how they...

00:18:05.000 I was trying to compute that as well.

00:18:06.000 I don't know how they do that exactly.

00:18:08.000 Also impressive.

00:18:09.000 But here's the thing.

00:18:10.000 You have to appreciate all aspects of culture.

00:18:13.000 It would be unfair to do otherwise.

00:18:16.000 Approximately 90% of all cases of malaria worldwide occur in Africa.

00:18:22.000 This seems like it's not...

00:18:23.000 I thought it was going to get better.

00:18:25.000 There are fewer people with internet access in the entire continent of Africa than New York City alone.

00:18:29.000 These were sent to me by my staff.

00:18:29.000 Okay, you know what?

00:18:31.000 These were not...

00:18:32.000 Did you forget to say fun facts?

00:18:35.000 You must have put a different agitation.

00:18:36.000 I don't know what happened there.

00:18:37.000 But we're appreciating all of our cultures here.

00:18:39.000 Africa, we did it with China. 0.99

00:18:41.000 Mexico.

00:18:42.000 We appreciate all cultures here in the United States.

00:18:44.000 Me too.

00:18:44.000 Speaking of culture, hey, something that leftists certainly don't appreciate about the United States is that our culture is that of freedom.

00:18:51.000 Our culture actually includes the right to bear arms.

00:18:53.000 That's one thing I don't understand.

00:18:54.000 Open-minded, tolerant liberals, they'll be fine with Muslims. 0.98

00:18:58.000 Part of their culture is rape and women not being afforded due process and their testimony not counting as much and being able to beat their wives and, of course, mistreatment of gays. 0.95

00:19:07.000 And this is a long and storied part of Islamic culture in the Middle Eastern countries.

00:19:12.000 And we're saying, well, these are cultural differences.

00:19:14.000 You have to appreciate them.

00:19:15.000 Yet somehow people having the right to carry arms and not commit crimes, we're not open-minded enough for that in the United States.

00:19:15.000 It doesn't make them bad.

00:19:23.000 So that ties right into this story.

00:19:25.000 We wrote about it at louderwithcreditor.com.

00:19:27.000 A reporter from the Chicago Sun-Times, his name was Neil Steinberg, tried to buy an AR-15.

00:19:36.000 So he tried to buy an AR-15 really to do a hit piece.

00:19:40.000 Because he went, and he's obviously, if you look at his history, he was anti-firearm.

00:19:43.000 So he went into a store.

00:19:45.000 He paid the money for an AR-15.

00:19:48.000 I believe he did the background check.

00:19:50.000 And he spent some time with an instructor for a while who talked to them.

00:19:52.000 The instructor knew that he was liberal and said, like, this is why I don't do news, because people don't just report news.

00:19:57.000 They do opinion like you.

00:19:58.000 So it was pretty well known that he was left.

00:20:00.000 They weren't necessarily thrilled with it, but they served him.

00:20:03.000 Well, the next day he got called and they said, we can't sell you the firearm.

00:20:07.000 This was all over because he wrote about this first.

00:20:11.000 And when he released the information, it was, see, the gun industry operates in the dark.

00:20:15.000 Well, they said, we're not going to sell you the firearm.

00:20:18.000 Neil Steinberg of Chicago Sun-Times.

00:20:20.000 And he said, oh, it's because you're afraid of people learning the truth.

00:20:22.000 They said, no, that's not it.

00:20:23.000 And he said, well, why don't you tell me why you didn't sell me the firearm?

00:20:25.000 They said, we don't have to do it.

00:20:26.000 We're a private business.

00:20:27.000 We just reserve the right to not sell you the firearm.

00:20:29.000 But he pressed and he slandered them.

00:20:30.000 And so when other people asked...

00:20:33.000 This gun shop.

00:20:34.000 They said, well, here's what really happened.

00:20:36.000 We found out he had a history of alcohol abuse as well as spousal abuse.

00:20:39.000 He roughed up his wife.

00:20:40.000 Well, there's your problem.

00:20:42.000 There's your problem right there.

00:20:44.000 So, here's something really cool.

00:20:46.000 The system worked.

00:20:48.000 And gun shop owners, gun dealers, are so responsible they wouldn't sell to this guy.

00:20:54.000 And he's still trying to go with the narrative that it's because they're afraid of people learning the truth. 1.00

00:20:58.000 No, the truth is that you're a wife-beating ass. 1.00

00:21:01.000 You're a piece of human crap. 1.00

00:21:03.000 There are very few rungs lower on the human ladder than wife-beater. 1.00

00:21:09.000 Although someone who looks as feeble as you, wife, is pretty bad. 0.99

00:21:13.000 It's just to add insult to injury.

00:21:15.000 So this happened.

00:21:16.000 It's important because if the gun store owners didn't speak out, people would have just heard the story like, oh, they're getting really scared and you're locking it down.

00:21:22.000 If they know you're a liberal, they won't sell it to you because they want to operate in the dark and sell guns illegally.

00:21:27.000 I was actually at a gun store one time.

00:21:29.000 With my father, out of state.

00:21:31.000 And I was looking, there was actually, there was a firearm that I wanted to buy.

00:21:34.000 They had a specific sale because they had an overstock.

00:21:34.000 And it was on sale.

00:21:36.000 And I said, wow.

00:21:37.000 I said, you know, I really want to, I'd love to buy that.

00:21:39.000 He said, well, if you're not from in state, I can't sell it to you.

00:21:41.000 Well, my dad was.

00:21:43.000 And my dad said, well, you know what?

00:21:44.000 I might get one.

00:21:45.000 He said, ah, the fact that he told me he's not in state and he wanted to buy one, he's like, I can't sell to you either because there's a chance that you could buy it and give it to him.

00:21:53.000 So he's like, so I can't, I'm not going to sell any of you any firearms today.

00:21:55.000 If I was going to, I would draw probably that same logical conclusion.

00:21:58.000 Yeah.

00:21:59.000 No offense.

00:21:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:00.000 And I don't even know that it wouldn't necessarily be illegal, depending on the states, but anyone who's bought a firearm, and that's why I've always said, hashtag gift a gun.

00:22:07.000 Get people to go through the process.

00:22:09.000 The second someone has purchased a firearm, the second someone has gone through the process, the second someone has done a gun safety training course, guess what?

00:22:16.000 They're going to know that all of this is BS. They're going to know that the automatic weapon thing is BS. They're going to know that the gun stat crimes are BS. They're going to know the semi-automatic myth, the no background check, the loophole myth.

00:22:28.000 They're going to understand that.

00:22:30.000 This Chicago Sun-Times guy, he came up with a number.

00:22:32.000 He said 40% of firearms are purchased without background checks.

00:22:36.000 There's no way that is true.

00:22:37.000 Now, I don't even know where he came up with his number because I was looking for it and I couldn't even find it from the most left-leaning sites.

00:22:44.000 And I think what he did...

00:22:46.000 For example, when my grandfather passed, there were a few shotguns and a handgun.

00:22:51.000 Maybe a handful of guns, right?

00:22:54.000 And they were passed down to either my dad or his brother or my aunt.

00:22:57.000 Mostly my dad or his brother.

00:22:59.000 Just like inheriting anything else.

00:23:00.000 And there's a process.

00:23:01.000 You have to file an official form.

00:23:03.000 Depending where you are, you might have to register it with your police department.

00:23:06.000 I believe that they're filing those under gun show loophole.

00:23:09.000 From my research, that is what happened.

00:23:11.000 It's really about closer to 10% that go through without a background check.

00:23:15.000 Because the other 30% that he's accounting for are inherited.

00:23:19.000 I couldn't find an accurate stat.

00:23:22.000 So I don't want to mislead people because I couldn't find it.

00:23:24.000 If you can tweet me at his prouder.

00:23:25.000 I'm pretty sure Obama's quoted that quote.

00:23:26.000 Has he?

00:23:27.000 I'm pretty sure he has.

00:23:28.000 I didn't want to come out with something because even on the furthest left sites, I couldn't corroborate the 40% are bought without background checks anywhere that seemed like I could comfortably substantiate it.

00:23:38.000 So tweet me at escrowder.

00:23:39.000 We're going to have Andrew Klavan next.

00:23:41.000 We're going to come back, talk Islam rebuttals. 0.68

00:23:42.000 We've got some really cool stuff on this program.

00:23:44.000 We had to get through this.

00:23:46.000 Andrew Klavan coming up next.

00:23:48.000 Always a great guest.

00:23:50.000 Half Christian, half Jewish.

00:23:51.000 I don't know how he does it.

00:23:52.000 There's so many holidays with Klavan.

00:23:54.000 That is a lot.

00:23:55.000 It's a lot.

00:23:56.000 When does he work?

00:23:57.000 And now for Jimmy Fallon Breaks Character.

00:24:11.000 No, I just...

00:24:14.000 That's amazing.

00:24:16.000 I'm funny, right?

00:24:18.000 And now back to your programming.

00:24:19.000 Thank you.

00:24:49.000 Glad to be there.

00:24:51.000 Glad to have our next guest.

00:24:52.000 He made very clear before we went on air that he had to get his plugs right.

00:24:57.000 Dailywire.com is a site, and his show is The Andrew Klavan Show, which is his name.

00:25:02.000 He's not particularly creative with the titling, I'll give him.

00:25:05.000 But Andrew Klavan Show, we always recommend it.

00:25:07.000 Great show.

00:25:08.000 Dailywire.com, great site.

00:25:10.000 Andrew Klavan, thanks for being here, sir.

00:25:12.000 Always a pleasure.

00:25:13.000 It's the only way I get to see you.

00:25:14.000 This is true.

00:25:16.000 You come to California, you don't call, you don't write.

00:25:18.000 I did, and then you left.

00:25:20.000 Literally, you were like, well...

00:25:21.000 You gave me warnings, so I left the state.

00:25:24.000 Yes, exactly.

00:25:25.000 No, I was in California doing a video for PragerU and did the Adam Carolla show.

00:25:31.000 And then Andrew Claven was there, but he gave me like a window of like, well, if you're here between 11.45 and 11.57, I can find some time.

00:25:39.000 Yeah.

00:25:42.000 I actually had made a date for a big lunch, which I went to, and I was so sorry I didn't just stay around and talk to you.

00:25:50.000 The lunch was like a total bore, and you're at least mildly entertaining, so I was sorry.

00:25:55.000 I apologize.

00:25:57.000 That's what it'll say on my head still.

00:26:00.000 He was at the very least mildly entertaining.

00:26:02.000 That is what I'm looking forward to.

00:26:04.000 We have a little bit of echo here.

00:26:05.000 Was it not good because he doesn't have headphones?

00:26:07.000 Yeah, probably.

00:26:08.000 All right, we'll try and work with this.

00:26:09.000 On headphones?

00:26:10.000 Yeah, put them on live on air.

00:26:11.000 Why don't you?

00:26:12.000 It's not like this is syndicated anywhere.

00:26:13.000 It's been a bit exciting.

00:26:14.000 Nobody's ever seen this happen.

00:26:15.000 No, no one's ever seen it.

00:26:16.000 That's the one thing on radio, too.

00:26:17.000 It's so silly where people are like, "We can't do this.

00:26:19.000 We can't let this happen.

00:26:20.000 We have to retake." It's like, "We don't get to retake this.

00:26:22.000 This is what's happening." This is what's happening.

00:26:25.000 Sorry!

00:26:26.000 Sorry you expected something better.

00:26:29.000 And truthfully, of course, we blame it on Andrew Klavan.

00:26:31.000 Of course.

00:26:31.000 But, oh, there we go.

00:26:32.000 He's got headphones.

00:26:33.000 Because you can take it.

00:26:34.000 Okay, all right.

00:26:35.000 It's been fixed.

00:26:35.000 Is there a microphone on that headphone, though?

00:26:37.000 I've got a mic.

00:26:37.000 No, I've got a microphone.

00:26:38.000 Okay, good.

00:26:39.000 Then we don't have to change anything.

00:26:40.000 Okay, so Andrew Klavan.

00:26:42.000 We were talking about this.

00:26:43.000 Islam.

00:26:44.000 We talk about that a lot.

00:26:45.000 We've been doing it for years. 0.99

00:26:48.000 At what point is it okay to just say, you know what, some religions really suck, and some cultures really suck, and the ones who kill 49 gays in a nightclub, why are we somehow talking about an AR-15 rifle that wasn't even used in this attack? 0.99

00:27:03.000 How quickly did this happen? 0.99

00:27:04.000 I blame your state.

00:27:06.000 It's an amazing thing.

00:27:08.000 When there is an earthquake and my state floats into the water and sinks, the entire country will be better off.

00:27:16.000 I'm just hoping I'll be in Texas at the time.

00:27:18.000 That's the hope!

00:27:21.000 Suddenly, suddenly on the left, ideas stop mattering.

00:27:25.000 You know, David Brooks, the New York Times knucklehead, the guys on their op-ed page, he said, there's not terrorism because Muhammad came down and there's a religion called Islam.

00:27:34.000 As if, like, the formative idea, the idea that shapes a culture, suddenly has no effect whatsoever.

00:27:40.000 You know, it's like everything we think, everything we believe has to do with Christianity.

00:27:45.000 Every single thing.

00:27:47.000 If you're for gay marriage, it's because you believe in the Christian judge not. 0.96

00:27:51.000 If you're against it, it's because you believe in the Christian shall not. 0.99

00:27:55.000 If you think that gay people should be killed, you're completely an outlier in American society because nobody believes that. 0.98

00:28:03.000 Nobody on either side thinks that that's fine. 0.99

00:28:05.000 But... 0.93

00:28:06.000 If you're a Muslim, they sit around and they talk about, like, executing gays as if it were, like, you know, kind of a positive thing for the gay person, you know? 1.00

00:28:15.000 Like, I saw this guy. 0.96

00:28:16.000 This is true.

00:28:17.000 I saw this guy.

00:28:18.000 He was saying, you know, we must do this out of compassion for them.

00:28:22.000 We put them to death, and that is compassionate, you know? 0.98

00:28:24.000 And you think, like, yeah, can I just, like, creep up behind you and clap my hands over your ears real fast and see if your head explodes? 0.99

00:28:30.000 Yes.

00:28:30.000 Well, that would be the compassionate thing to do.

00:28:33.000 It's an entirely different way of looking at the world.

00:28:36.000 And I'm not saying that millions and millions of Muslims aren't great people.

00:28:42.000 That has nothing to do with it.

00:28:43.000 It has to do with the fact that ideas shape a culture over the centuries.

00:28:46.000 And if you look at Muslim countries, they're very different than ours in ways that maybe aren't so good. 0.99

00:28:52.000 Yeah, well, you don't even need to look at Islamic countries. 0.86

00:28:55.000 You can just look at Muhammad right away, and there you go. 0.92

00:28:57.000 There's your starting point. 1.00

00:28:59.000 Horrible human being, a terrorist, period. 0.99

00:29:02.000 There's no way around it. 0.99

00:29:03.000 And then you can look at even wherever Muslims gain any sort of power, non-Islamic countries, like the UK, like you see in Sweden, right? 0.95

00:29:09.000 Anyway, in the United States, there's such a minority... 1.00

00:29:12.000 And we have such a system of checks and balances.

00:29:14.000 They haven't been able to get to be as unfettered as they are in the UK. But in the UK, 100% of Muslims think homosexuality is unacceptable.

00:29:21.000 Well, what does Islam teach you do with unacceptable sin? 1.00

00:29:24.000 You kill people for it. 0.76

00:29:25.000 So you have to kind of read between the lines. 0.97

00:29:28.000 But even moderate Muslims in newer countries, westernized countries, are still very much a problem. 1.00

00:29:34.000 And I think...

00:29:35.000 I think a lot of people are becoming okay with saying that now.

00:29:38.000 There's the rubber band effect where the media in Hollywood hasn't realized that most Americans are tired of it.

00:29:45.000 Well, I think that what they're doing is really interesting.

00:29:48.000 When they released this week the transcripts of the Orlando shooter, and they redacted every reference to ISIS, every reference to Islam.

00:29:58.000 And then they were forced, because it was so ridiculous, it was like playing Mad Libs, you know, you could easily put back the blanks.

00:30:04.000 It was so easy to fill in blanks.

00:30:06.000 It made you think of it twice, you know.

00:30:09.000 Imagine playing Cranium in a turban. 0.96

00:30:11.000 Okay, what is it?

00:30:12.000 Is it the bomb?

00:30:13.000 It's always the bomb!

00:30:15.000 I'm sorry, that's redacted.

00:30:16.000 It's redacted.

00:30:17.000 But, you know, it was almost as if, and when I say almost as if, I'm being ironic because it was truly as if they were saying to you, it's not that you don't know it's there, but you shouldn't know.

00:30:29.000 You're wrong to know.

00:30:30.000 You should lie.

00:30:31.000 You know, the right thing to do, the moral thing, the virtuous thing is to lie.

00:30:35.000 And I think that that's what's driving people crazy.

00:30:38.000 When you look at these kids on college campuses and they riot, if somebody comes on and talks to them and says ideas they don't believe in or they, you know, they just go crazy.

00:30:48.000 If somebody says anything that is out of their wheelhouse, that's induced mental illness. 0.60

00:30:54.000 That's a mental illness.

00:30:56.000 That is people telling you that it's right to lie. 0.92

00:30:58.000 And so when somebody comes along and tells something that looks like the truth, they're doing an evil act.

00:31:03.000 You're watching evil right in front of you unfold right in front of you.

00:31:05.000 Just somebody telling the truth.

00:31:07.000 They are committing Doing an evil act. 0.99

00:31:08.000 And on campus, of course, we can talk about the Islamic, the hypocrisy, rape culture on campus. 1.00

00:31:13.000 And then they entirely ignore what happens in Islamic. 0.98

00:31:16.000 You know, just as far as rape culture on campus, I have a different finisher from an act when I perform in colleges. 0.69

00:31:22.000 I just slap my Johnson right on the stage. 1.00

00:31:26.000 And I just let it ride.

00:31:29.000 And then you ask why I don't come to your shows.

00:31:31.000 Well, yeah, exactly.

00:31:32.000 And there's almost always an encore, which is awkward, because there's no way to pull that off.

00:31:36.000 I should hope so.

00:31:38.000 No, it is true.

00:31:39.000 It's a good point to make.

00:31:41.000 It is induced.

00:31:42.000 I wouldn't say it's induced.

00:31:43.000 I think as an author, you're using very clever wordplay, but it's not induced mental illness if they know it's a lie.

00:31:49.000 They're simply continuing the propagandist cycle.

00:31:53.000 Well, the mental illness is the idea that to lie is virtuous. 0.63

00:31:58.000 Somehow you're going to change the world for the better by describing it as it's not.

00:32:04.000 There was a story out of Cologne, Germany.

00:32:08.000 It was definitely Germany.

00:32:08.000 I think it was Cologne.

00:32:10.000 The music festival where they got groped and raped. 0.93

00:32:12.000 Where these girls were getting raped on the way to school and molested on the way to school and didn't want to say anything because they didn't want to seem to be anti-refugee. 0.96

00:32:21.000 These girls are being molested and they themselves won't say it because... 0.99

00:32:25.000 And that is a kind of mental illness. 0.97

00:32:27.000 It's like it's virtuous to lie.

00:32:29.000 It's virtuous not to say that I am being attacked and assaulted because if I say it, then people might think that refugees attack and assault people.

00:32:37.000 Right.

00:32:37.000 Well, obviously, that's the case, since you're the one being, you know.

00:32:40.000 And so I think when you look at college campuses in America and you see the level of hysteria that's going on, it's the hysteria of somebody being told, no, you're not being contacted through your teeth by an alien civilization.

00:32:55.000 That's actually a delusion.

00:32:56.000 And then, you know, crazy people go nuts.

00:32:58.000 Right.

00:32:59.000 Yes, well, exactly.

00:33:00.000 They get really mad, and then they end up on the History Channel, which for some reason has nothing to do with history anymore.

00:33:04.000 This person had aliens in her teeth. 1.00

00:33:07.000 What was that about?

00:33:08.000 Yeah, you're like, what am I watching?

00:33:09.000 It came back to aliens all of a sudden, this guy with the Jimmy Neutron hairdo.

00:33:14.000 I thought it was...

00:33:15.000 It used to be on the History Channel, you could count on the fact that it was going to be history that took place between 1938 and 1945.

00:33:22.000 Right.

00:33:23.000 They only covered World War II. And then suddenly it became from outer space.

00:33:27.000 Well, that's just a demographic problem.

00:33:27.000 I don't know how...

00:33:28.000 There aren't enough that's left.

00:33:30.000 Maybe that's it.

00:33:31.000 Ah, that went dark. 1.00

00:33:32.000 They used to sit there in a chair and be like, Damn Japs! 1.00

00:33:32.000 But it's true. 1.00

00:33:35.000 And we're just like, ah, we can sell these guys reverse mortgages.

00:33:39.000 And then when the demographic dried up, like, let's find the Sasquatch hunters out in Montana.

00:33:45.000 I don't know.

00:33:47.000 As I buy gold for crying out loud, it's falling apart.

00:33:51.000 Oh, my step-grandfather told my dad that God spoke to him and he told him to advise my dad to buy gold.

00:33:57.000 And my dad said...

00:33:59.000 Grandpa, that wasn't God, that was Rush Limbaugh.

00:34:03.000 No!

00:34:04.000 No!

00:34:05.000 No, you're absolutely right, and it is a point.

00:34:08.000 I mean, we've gone to gun control so quickly, and you're in a state where that's obviously the big push.

00:34:12.000 My brother lives in California.

00:34:14.000 But you are, I mean, you're relatively recently a first-time fire owner, right?

00:34:17.000 Yeah, oddly enough, all this time I've been talking, I've said anything I wanted to about Islam.

00:34:22.000 It was only when I started to talk about Donald Trump when I thought, maybe I ought to buy one of them.

00:34:29.000 Because the Muslims were like, yes, he hates us, we don't care. 1.00

00:34:32.000 But the Trumpians were like, wait, you don't like Donald Trump, we'll kill you. 1.00

00:34:35.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

00:34:36.000 So I just thought they were saying such horrible things about me on Twitter.

00:34:40.000 The Trump people, the alt-right, as we call them, they were saying such horrible things about me that I thought, you know what?

00:34:47.000 If these people came into my house, it would just be such a delight to blow them into the world that I wouldn't want to miss out.

00:34:55.000 Right.

00:34:56.000 Yeah.

00:34:56.000 As you say now, all I've got is this baseball bat to beat them to death with.

00:35:00.000 I want to blow them away. 0.99

00:35:02.000 Yes, no, exactly.

00:35:04.000 I've always been a shooter.

00:35:05.000 I've always gone out shooting, but I never owned a gun because I had kids and it made me and my wife nervous, you know, so I just didn't own one.

00:35:12.000 But I've always been a guy who likes to go out to the range and shoot.

00:35:15.000 Well, you have grandchildren now, though, right?

00:35:17.000 I do have a grandchild, yeah.

00:35:18.000 Okay, sorry, and how old is your grandchild?

00:35:20.000 He is one and a little bit more.

00:35:23.000 Okay, so, well, he's about the age where Muslims will kidnap him if you go to Michael's. 0.99

00:35:27.000 I wouldn't suggest they kidnap my grandma. 0.99

00:35:29.000 He'd beat the crap out of me. 0.84

00:35:30.000 Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.

00:35:31.000 They come from countries where, you know, what they consume to sustain them is not necessarily nutrient dense, so they're relatively frail.

00:35:38.000 But, you know, I would love for you to videotape, because I have planned to do this with my children, with your grandson, obviously, with his father and mother's permission.

00:35:46.000 I'm teaching him the firearm and I mean four or five getting it with him out at the range showing him the safety of course never giving him a loaded gun and teaching him okay this is what you don't do with a gun this is what you never aim it this way and getting your hands around his hand just like not gay Jared had this when he was young and having him fire that weapon at the range and I mean this as young as four or five because every single person I know who's who's done that that child has always respected firearms and it's never been a problem.

00:36:13.000 Yeah.

00:36:13.000 Well, obviously, I mean, this is this weird thing that these people who know nothing about guns are constantly preaching to us about guns.

00:36:23.000 And, you know, there was a wonderful column this week.

00:36:26.000 I wish everybody would read this by Bill McGurn, my pal at The Wall Street Journal, who wrote about the fact that in New York, they had a system for taking the guns out of the hands of bad guys.

00:36:36.000 It was called Stop and Frisk.

00:36:38.000 And because a lot of the bad guys happen to be black, the New York Times and all the liberals and the ACLU shut down the program. 0.95

00:36:46.000 They shut down the program. 0.95

00:36:47.000 So we know for a fact that the left is not worried about guns in the hands of bad guys.

00:36:52.000 They're really worried about guns in the hands of good guys, because in their mind, good guys are people who don't use guns.

00:36:58.000 You know, they're they're them.

00:37:00.000 Right.

00:37:00.000 Liberals.

00:37:01.000 And I just think it's an amazing thing that these guys, the stupidity that comes out of their mouths about guns, about these this term assault weapon that nobody can. 1.00

00:37:09.000 I think I'm giving them too much credit. 1.00

00:37:10.000 I don't think it's stupidity. 0.99

00:37:12.000 I don't think that Barack Obama has no idea what a semi-automatic is. 1.00

00:37:18.000 I can't believe he's that stupid. 1.00

00:37:20.000 Okay. 1.00

00:37:21.000 I don't think he's that stupid. 0.99

00:37:24.000 I think when he says semi-automatic to conflate it with machine gun, I think he's doing it deliberately to mislead people. 0.99

00:37:28.000 Because we're talking about this this week.

00:37:30.000 This is an issue, the gun issue.

00:37:33.000 No fly, no buy.

00:37:34.000 Whether it's Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, it requires an entirely uneducated voter base to sell it.

00:37:38.000 It requires it.

00:37:39.000 It can't work otherwise.

00:37:41.000 It requires people don't know that every handgun is a semi-automatic, pretty much.

00:37:45.000 It requires that they don't know you cannot buy machine guns right now.

00:37:48.000 It requires that they've never purchased a firearm so they don't understand that there is a system of background checks.

00:37:52.000 The only way to push this through requires low information voters.

00:37:57.000 And those can be on both sides.

00:37:58.000 But on the gun issue, they are always entirely on the left.

00:38:00.000 That's an absolute I'm comfortable making.

00:38:02.000 Sorry, I went on that rant.

00:38:05.000 But we're going to bring you back after the break.

00:38:06.000 So before the break, let me give you dailywire.com, the Andrew Klavan show, because he's going to have a heart attack if I don't give him his plugs.

00:38:12.000 And we'll be back to talk more about firearms and Muslims.

00:38:17.000 And we'll be dead soon. 0.97

00:38:18.000 We'll be right back.

00:38:29.000 Whoa, Jared, what are you doing? 0.99

00:38:31.000 Shoot bad guys! 0.98

00:38:32.000 With what? 1.00

00:38:33.000 AR-15!

00:38:34.000 Where'd you get it?

00:38:35.000 AR-15.com!

00:38:36.000 Oh, there's another one!

00:38:37.000 Kaboom! 0.99

00:38:37.000 You got him! 0.99

00:38:38.000 Yeah!

00:38:39.000 Thank God for AR-15.com!

00:38:40.000 They have AR-15 and accessories for sale and the best advice there is on the web!

00:38:45.000 Oh no, there's another one!

00:38:46.000 Kaboom! 0.99

00:38:47.000 You got him!

00:38:48.000 Yeah!

00:38:49.000 AR-15!

00:38:49.000 With your what?

00:38:50.000 From where?

00:38:51.000 AR-15.com!

00:38:52.000 That's the best place to go, and that's the takeaway, because this commercial's about to stop!

00:38:55.000 *music* Glad to be back.

00:39:16.000 Our guest, DailyWire.com, the Andrew Klavan Show.

00:39:20.000 Get it right.

00:39:21.000 Andrew Klavan, thank you for being with us, sir.

00:39:23.000 Sorry, I went on a rant before, which shouldn't happen with a guest.

00:39:27.000 But do you think, I'm out of line, that it requires an entirely uninformed voting base with these gun measures they're trying to push through?

00:39:35.000 Well, it requires an uninformed voting base over the entire spectrum.

00:39:39.000 It's not just uninformed about guns, about what guns do and what kind of guns there are.

00:39:44.000 It's also why we're supposed to have guns. 0.65

00:39:47.000 I've gotten into this conversation several times with liberals where I explain to them, we're supposed to have guns so that we can kill the police, so that we can kill the soldiers.

00:39:57.000 They keep saying, well, why do you have guns?

00:40:00.000 You say, well, why do you need an automatic weapon to hunt?

00:40:04.000 And it's like, no, no, no.

00:40:07.000 The Founding Fathers were not worried about us hunting.

00:40:11.000 I'm happy to buy my meat at the grocery store.

00:40:13.000 That has nothing to do with it.

00:40:15.000 What I want is to be able to defend myself from bad people, and if the government should become actually oppressive, to join with others in a militia to defend my rights.

00:40:26.000 And that's why you have guns.

00:40:27.000 And, you know, when you look at – you only have to look at Europe, where they are sitting with, like, slack-jawed apathy while really an invasion takes place, an invasion of people who do not share their values, who despise them, who really want to change the entire nature of European culture.

00:40:44.000 And they sit there.

00:40:45.000 They don't understand that it's up to them.

00:40:47.000 It's not up to the guy at 10 Downing Street to defend them.

00:40:53.000 It's up to them to defend themselves, but they don't understand that because they've been disarmed, and they've been told that the government is going to take care of them, and this is 2,000 years of kings ruling over people, and now socialism ruling over people.

00:41:07.000 Self-defense begins in the home.

00:41:09.000 And it's just that simple.

00:41:10.000 And yeah, is it pretty?

00:41:12.000 No.

00:41:12.000 Do I wish there were no guns in the world and nobody had to have guns?

00:41:15.000 Yes.

00:41:15.000 I mean, that would be a better world.

00:41:17.000 But that's not the world we live in.

00:41:18.000 And if we're going to start disarming people, let's start with the bad guys.

00:41:23.000 Very good point.

00:41:25.000 First off, I would disagree because guns are really cool, too.

00:41:27.000 Guns are cool and fun.

00:41:27.000 Let's just not lie.

00:41:28.000 They're a lot of fun when you play with them.

00:41:30.000 It's like Legos for adults.

00:41:33.000 But you're right, and you know, they have much higher violent crime rates right now, record high rape rates, and I guess while they sit there and they're being mounted by a refugee with no respect for law, and they have gangs running rampant and stabbings at an all-time high, they can say, well, gee, at least it didn't happen with a gun. 0.99

00:41:50.000 I don't understand what they say.

00:41:52.000 I mean, I do not understand why, especially, I mean, the pitch a lot of times is to women. 0.98

00:41:57.000 You know, they create this atmosphere of, like, complete illogic that obviously appeals to women because... 1.00

00:42:05.000 You went there. 0.99

00:42:08.000 Shoot the police. 1.00

00:42:09.000 Women are illogical. 1.00

00:42:10.000 This is Ice Cube on the show. 0.99

00:42:14.000 Doing Whiteface. 0.90

00:42:15.000 But I mean, you know, would it make me laugh if a bunch of refugees grabbed a German woman and she blew their heads off? 1.00

00:42:22.000 Yeah, that would give me a chuckle.

00:42:25.000 That's why Death Wish was a successful movie.

00:42:28.000 That's right.

00:42:29.000 That's why Death Wish 2 and 3 and 4 were successful movies.

00:42:32.000 To me, that would be like, you go, Fraulein, you know?

00:42:35.000 Yeah.

00:42:37.000 My favorite line is Death Wish 2.

00:42:39.000 It's where Charles Bronson just says, Hey kid, you believe in Jesus?

00:42:43.000 Why? 1.00

00:42:44.000 You're gonna meet him and kill him. 1.00

00:42:46.000 It's so simple and hack, but it's wonderful. 0.99

00:42:50.000 That is why it works, because the good guys should be the guys with the guns.

00:42:54.000 And women especially. 0.96

00:42:56.000 That is the equalizer.

00:42:58.000 It's like the thing that says, look, I'm never going to get shot by a woman who doesn't want to be abused, because I'm never going to abuse a woman.

00:43:05.000 But if some guy does, and she blows him away, it's like, hey, to me, that's like comedy.

00:43:12.000 I agree with you, and I wouldn't feel bad about it.

00:43:15.000 Yeah.

00:43:16.000 You know, it's one of those things.

00:43:17.000 I think there are two different reactions.

00:43:18.000 You know, you find out someone who carries always with them, and I know many people in my direct friends and family who carry everywhere, and you go, oh, wow, okay, that's great, good for you.

00:43:29.000 And I generally think, oh, I know the kind of course they've had to go through because I've had to go through.

00:43:32.000 They're probably a very responsible citizen.

00:43:34.000 Or the reaction is...

00:43:38.000 It's one of those two.

00:43:40.000 At any moment, the gunfire is going to blaze out.

00:43:43.000 You go to Texas and people are incredibly polite because they know that everybody's strapped.

00:43:49.000 There's other crime, like gang crime, but there are almost no carjackings in Texas.

00:43:54.000 In Detroit, you stop at the wrong light, your car is just on cinder blocks.

00:43:58.000 And they're gone.

00:44:00.000 And, you know, I would like somebody to explain to me why Chicago, with its incredibly strict gun laws, is a shooting gallery.

00:44:09.000 And why France, you know, people get blown away and there are no guns there whatsoever.

00:44:14.000 You know, the other thing about the left that is so incredible is how provincial they are.

00:44:19.000 It's like if we get rid of all the guns in America...

00:44:22.000 Nobody will get shot in France.

00:44:24.000 I'm not sure what the logic is there.

00:44:25.000 Why is a mass shooting in France a reason to get rid of guns?

00:44:29.000 You're just going to have John Malkovich in the line of fire building a polymer two-barrel shooting a duck.

00:44:35.000 I admired that so much.

00:44:37.000 Like, yeah, you could get that gun on a plane.

00:44:40.000 Yeah.

00:44:41.000 Have you ever put the bullets in the rabbit's feet?

00:44:42.000 You're like, wow.

00:44:45.000 Say! 0.86

00:44:46.000 I'll be put on a no-fly list, but I actually thought, as I went through TSM, like, oh, this is exactly what a terrorist would do.

00:44:53.000 And I could do it.

00:44:54.000 It is a joke.

00:44:56.000 It is a joke.

00:44:56.000 The little carriers...

00:44:57.000 And the fact that I'm saying this right now, sorry, you're on the no-fly list, too, just for being on this program.

00:45:02.000 But I have thought about that when I just go like, okay, they keep developing.

00:45:05.000 What would they do?

00:45:06.000 This is what they would do.

00:45:06.000 And I have my own little, in my mindset, like a bullet in a rabbit's foot.

00:45:09.000 And it's just so clear to me what someone could do with TSA. Yeah, no, I mean, that's the thing.

00:45:14.000 They're going to be printing these things.

00:45:15.000 You know, you're going to have a printer that prints guns pretty soon.

00:45:18.000 So it's like, it's not really, the whole thing is kind of beyond their ability.

00:45:22.000 But it's all, you know, it's very frustrating.

00:45:24.000 We're talking about this right now.

00:45:25.000 We're not even talking about the Islamic terrorism.

00:45:27.000 That we're talking about AR-15s.

00:45:29.000 And it wasn't even the gun that was used.

00:45:30.000 That's right.

00:45:31.000 That's right.

00:45:32.000 And of course, that guy could always get a gun.

00:45:35.000 You know, I mean, it's the guy like me who thinks, what's the law here?

00:45:38.000 Yeah, I'll follow this.

00:45:40.000 And you go and you get a gun, you know, you fill out a form and the question is, are you a fugitive from justice?

00:45:45.000 So help me, God, in California, this is a question on the gun thing.

00:45:48.000 Are you a fugitive from justice?

00:45:49.000 And I looked at the guy and I said, what's the right answer to this question?

00:45:52.000 Yeah.

00:45:53.000 Is that yes or no?

00:45:54.000 Because I don't want to ruin my chances of getting a gun.

00:45:58.000 So it's all absurd.

00:46:00.000 Right.

00:46:01.000 Well, exactly.

00:46:01.000 And the thing is what the left wants is if you have to check, are you on any medication?

00:46:05.000 Well, I take Xanax for jet lag.

00:46:07.000 Bah! 0.97

00:46:08.000 You lose your fundamental human rights, Second Amendment.

00:46:10.000 It's gone.

00:46:11.000 I mean, literally, it could go that far.

00:46:13.000 Andrew Klavan, you give your last plug before we go to the break.

00:46:15.000 People can find you.

00:46:17.000 Come on, dailywire.com.

00:46:18.000 Listen to my podcast.

00:46:20.000 It's incredibly hilarious.

00:46:21.000 Of course, I know, but I was saying it, so I wanted to give you the chance.

00:46:23.000 And you just gave a worse plug.

00:46:24.000 I bet you're going to get negative traffic.

00:46:26.000 People are going to leave.

00:46:28.000 Dailywire.com, Andrew Klavan's show.

00:46:30.000 He says he wants me on his show, but keep his feet to the fire because he never actually books me.

00:46:36.000 Andrew Klavan's show, DailyWire.com.

00:46:38.000 We will be back, and I'll plug him again after the break, just because.

00:46:41.000 I know he'll call me.

00:46:42.000 He'll call me.

00:46:43.000 It's going to be a thing.

00:46:44.000 There's always a thing.

00:46:45.000 And now for episode 348 of the Game of Thrones Fandom Podcast...

00:47:10.000 This week we're recapping season 6, the last episode, The Battle of the Bastards.

00:47:16.000 Eugene, did you watch this week's episode?

00:47:19.000 I personally thought that the writing has been taking a turn to shove our content and found myself...

00:47:19.000 Yeah?

00:47:26.000 Grossly disappointed.

00:47:28.000 Did you find yourself disappointed with anything of note in this episode of Battle of the Bastards?

00:47:35.000 I liked it.

00:47:37.000 No, but think about it.

00:47:38.000 Is there anything that you thought was maybe missing from season six episode of Battle of the Bastards?

00:47:45.000 No.

00:47:46.000 I thought it was pretty good. 0.99

00:47:47.000 Damn it, you think there were no boobs and butts in this episode? 1.00

00:47:51.000 That's why, people, I didn't even know if I was watching Game of Thrones anymore, and we have anything to talk about on the podcast. 1.00

00:47:58.000 Let's just boost your butt! 1.00

00:48:00.000 Let's just boost your butt! 1.00

00:48:30.000 Let's just boost your butt! 1.00

00:49:00.000 NotGayJarred. 1.00

00:49:01.000 You can follow me on Twitter at SCrowder.

00:49:03.000 You can follow him at NotGayJarred.

00:49:04.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:49:06.000 Draw your own conclusions.

00:49:07.000 We good?

00:49:09.000 We're good.

00:49:10.000 I'm a little disappointed you never reciprocate my talk.

00:49:12.000 You're dancing.

00:49:13.000 There's no cohesion to the dance.

00:49:14.000 Well, it's dig, dig, dig. 0.96

00:49:15.000 And then I'm clearly digging crap and flinging at you. 1.00

00:49:18.000 You're always digging for crap. 0.99

00:49:20.000 You're not catching it. 0.99

00:49:21.000 I'm sorry.

00:49:22.000 We'll do it next time.

00:49:23.000 We'll have to fix it next time.

00:49:24.000 We'll do it live.

00:49:25.000 We'll do it live.

00:49:26.000 Oh my gosh.

00:49:27.000 This is one thing we were talking about cable news and stuff earlier.

00:49:27.000 I love...

00:49:30.000 Sky, all of that.

00:49:32.000 I love that I'm so free from any of those shackles.

00:49:35.000 I can't stand Bill O'Reilly.

00:49:37.000 I could never stand Bill O'Reilly. 0.99

00:49:39.000 I could never say it when I was on Fox News, because you're not supposed to say it, although almost everyone who works there, the guy is an ass of epic proportions. 0.94

00:49:49.000 And it's like now if someone goes, I know someone who I know who's watching the show will probably go tell him, because I've spent some time with him, not a lot, like in a room with him. 0.98

00:49:59.000 And if Bill O'Reilly called me up right now, I'd be like, uh, are you one of the folks who, uh, called me an ass? 0.98

00:50:05.000 Yes! 1.00

00:50:07.000 Bill O'Reilly, I think you're a dick! 1.00

00:50:10.000 Are we good? 1.00

00:50:12.000 Click. 1.00

00:50:13.000 Well, you're probably trying to have phone sex with me. 0.99

00:50:14.000 They buried that scandal really quickly. 0.92

00:50:17.000 I didn't know if you were going to go there or not.

00:50:18.000 Do you remember it?

00:50:19.000 I do remember that.

00:50:20.000 They buried that so fast over there because he was Mr.

00:50:24.000 He's not really a conservative.

00:50:25.000 He's a populist Mr.

00:50:26.000 Conservative looking out for the folks.

00:50:27.000 And if you run a search on Bill O'Reilly phone sex scandal, I don't know if the transcripts are out there.

00:50:32.000 I don't know if we were privy to more, but it was so much worse than most people knew.

00:50:39.000 Do I need to set this up?

00:50:40.000 Do we have a clip first before I go?

00:50:42.000 Let me set this up.

00:50:43.000 Okay.

00:50:44.000 So it's no secret that we've done a lot of work on Islam here at Lotto with Crowder.

00:50:49.000 And the biggest YouTube Islamic channel, I've actually done a lot of research, some really interesting affiliations with this channel and group or organization.

00:50:56.000 We'll get into that next week.

00:50:57.000 You asked for it.

00:50:58.000 Talk Islam. 0.99

00:51:00.000 They've gone out of their way to issue rebuttals to my videos exposing Islam. 0.99

00:51:05.000 And so here we are in sort of a never-ending battle of, well, I guess kind of wits.

00:51:11.000 Here's one of their more famous videos to which I will issue a rebuttal.

00:51:14.000 I think everything you need to know about Islam we can cover in this segment.

00:51:18.000 Not Kate, Jared, roll the clip, please.

00:51:23.000 That has nothing to do with my prophet.

00:51:26.000 Please just stop it.

00:51:28.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:51:30.000 That's not the message he sent.

00:51:32.000 That's not what he meant.

00:51:33.000 Okay, so he does this spoken word poetry thing, which is for people who can't do stand-up comedy or music, and does this rap about Islam and Muhammad to try and clarify some myths.

00:51:45.000 Now, his aren't really super substantiated, so we're going to try and not only use chapter, verse, Quran, Hadith, but provide as much context as possible.

00:51:55.000 So let's go through this piece by piece.

00:51:57.000 Nothing to do with my prophet.

00:51:59.000 Nothing at all.

00:52:00.000 I mean, I know a man forbade us from harming the innocent.

00:52:04.000 Okay, we have to pause right away.

00:52:06.000 The Quran is pretty clear.

00:52:08.000 This is one thing that if you hear innocent, well, that sounds nice.

00:52:11.000 The Quran is clear that anyone who rejects Islam We cannot be innocent. 0.88

00:52:15.000 Here are just a couple of Quran verses to that effect.

00:52:21.000 We have Surah 3, 151, and then we have Surah 5, 32.

00:52:26.000 For those listening to rest, I can't read this all.

00:52:29.000 It'll just take too long.

00:52:31.000 The first one was, For that cause we decreed for the children of Israel, that whoever killeth a human being, other than man, slaughter, or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he has killed all mankind. 0.96

00:52:39.000 And whoever saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he has saved the life of all mankind.

00:52:42.000 Our messengers came unto them with clear proofs of Allah.

00:52:44.000 But afterwards, lo, many of them became prodigals of the earth.

00:52:47.000 Corruption in the earth can mean anything that comes into conflict with Islam.

00:52:51.000 Corruption in the earth can mean anything that comes into conflict with Islam.

00:52:56.000 We'll keep circling back to this, but this is important.

00:52:58.000 The Quran is overwhelmingly clear.

00:53:00.000 Non-Muslims who refuse to subject themselves to Islam are not innocent. 1.00

00:53:05.000 The Marleys were dead to begin with. 0.91

00:53:07.000 Because they weren't Muslim. 1.00

00:53:07.000 Literally! 1.00

00:53:09.000 Next clip.

00:53:10.000 This is the man who forbade us from even scaring cattle with a knife.

00:53:14.000 Saying you have no right to let the animal die twice.

00:53:19.000 And when he was asked for advice, he'd reply, don't get angry, don't get angry, don't get angry, repeating it thrice.

00:53:28.000 Mmm, will we say that?

00:53:31.000 Muhammad got angry, got angry, got angry a whole lot. 0.98

00:53:35.000 See, Muhammad would preach this for others, but didn't really practice it.

00:53:38.000 He had a sore spot even for simple teasing.

00:53:41.000 For example, Muhammad ordered the killing of two girls simply because they were singing satirical songs about him.

00:53:47.000 That's where this starts.

00:53:48.000 Don't portray him, don't mock him. 0.99

00:53:50.000 It's worthy of death. 0.90

00:53:50.000 It comes from Muhammad himself. 0.90

00:53:51.000 There was also a group of rabbis who laughed at Islam and Muslims, and Muhammad not only ordered them ejected from the mosque, they were yanked out by their hair and their head.

00:54:01.000 And given severe beatings. 0.50

00:54:04.000 So one might argue he was actually thin-skinned.

00:54:09.000 Next clip.

00:54:10.000 I know a man who called to patience first.

00:54:13.000 Even to those who had treated him the worst.

00:54:16.000 What?

00:54:18.000 Except the exact opposite is true.

00:54:20.000 As you see here by this verse, O believers, fight them, believers who are near to you, and let them find in you a harshness, and know that Allah is with the God-fearing.

00:54:28.000 Again, we're going to continue to provide more and more context as we build here. 0.94

00:54:33.000 Here's some more, where he specifically called for the deaths of Christians and Jews.

00:54:38.000 We can bring this up on screen. 0.98

00:54:39.000 Yes, all Christians and Jews.

00:54:42.000 So this is important to note.

00:54:44.000 We're also talking about the...

00:54:45.000 Do we have 839 up there?

00:54:49.000 839.

00:54:50.000 So the Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Hajj.

00:54:53.000 I don't know how we pronounce it exactly.

00:54:55.000 Again, this is the argument.

00:54:55.000 They say you're not Arabic, so you can't use it.

00:54:57.000 So other Muslims were allowed to travel there.

00:54:58.000 This is important historical context, just not as an armed group.

00:55:02.000 Since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction, the Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion. 0.93

00:55:09.000 Since it was Muhammad's goal, he was planning on destroying their idols, establishing Islam by force. 1.00

00:55:13.000 Hence, this part of the verse is so critical.

00:55:17.000 Because in the verse 839, where it says, religion is only for Allah, meaning that the true justification of violence was unbelief of the opposition.

00:55:28.000 The justification for violence against them was simply unbelief.

00:55:32.000 Muhammad further explains in the Sirah, Allah must have no rivals.

00:55:36.000 So again, we're coming back to, there is no innocent non-Muslim, particularly if you resist Islam. 0.99

00:55:44.000 Not just being non-Muslim, but if you say, you know what, no, I'm going to be a Buddhist, I'm going to be a Christian. 0.86

00:55:48.000 That is evil.

00:55:49.000 You cannot be innocent.

00:55:50.000 So we need to drill this into you so you understand it.

00:55:54.000 More and more context.

00:55:55.000 Next clip.

00:55:56.000 Next clip.

00:56:07.000 Except that's not true at all.

00:56:09.000 There's only forgiveness for those who do not convert. 0.84

00:56:12.000 I realized I missed one of those clips.

00:56:13.000 There's only forgiveness for those who convert to Islam. 1.00

00:56:16.000 Again, 929.

00:56:18.000 Surah 929.

00:56:19.000 We've talked about that.

00:56:20.000 It is very, very clear.

00:56:21.000 To go back to another point.

00:56:23.000 Yeah, 929.

00:56:24.000 Keep that up there.

00:56:25.000 People of the book here.

00:56:26.000 So 929 says, This is important.

00:56:41.000 People of the book refers to Christians and Jews.

00:56:43.000 According to this verse, in context, they are to be violently subjugated.

00:56:49.000 With the sole justification, as you can see in this first context, the only justification needed is their religious status.

00:56:56.000 Notably that the religion is not that of Islam.

00:56:59.000 So in verse 933, I don't think we have this up.

00:57:02.000 It tells Muslims that Allah has chartered them to make Islam superior over all other religions. 0.99

00:57:07.000 Now, here's what's important.

00:57:08.000 Abrogation is something you need to understand with the Quran. 0.93

00:57:11.000 So we've talked about this context.

00:57:12.000 He says some nice things early on.

00:57:14.000 He got increasingly mad, and he became increasingly violent.

00:57:18.000 And it's clear in the Quran, Muslims are taught, if Muhammad says something later on in his life that contradicts an earlier teaching, it supersedes it.

00:57:28.000 That's abrogation.

00:57:30.000 And it's a central principle from Islam.

00:57:33.000 So this is important, because we're talking about the Christians and Jews and subjugating them in violence, because this chapter was one of the final revelations from Allah, and it set in motion, really, a tenacious military expansion in which Muhammad's companions' followers managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next hundred years. 0.98

00:57:48.000 Because Islam intended, always, from its inception, from Muhammad, to completely dominate the world and subjugate everyone. 1.00

00:57:56.000 And they were justified. 0.98

00:57:57.000 People who did not submit could not be innocent, and you can do to them whatever you want.

00:58:01.000 So protect the innocent.

00:58:03.000 Again, no non-Muslims are innocent. 1.00

00:58:05.000 Sorry, Jared, I know I kind of skipped around there.

00:58:07.000 He pardoned and forgave.

00:58:08.000 Let's go to that 232 clip where the reward in serving all things.

00:58:12.000 I'm back.

00:58:13.000 I mean, I know a man who was so caring and compassionate, who said that there is a reward in serving all things that are animate.

00:58:21.000 In other words, everything that breeds, whether it be the animals, the trees, and every single human being.

00:58:30.000 Okay, but again, the Quran, we have it up here, 48, 29.

00:58:34.000 It's important to define the term serving, and human being, even.

00:58:38.000 How does the Quran, how does Muhammad instruct people to serve non-Muslims?

00:58:44.000 We have Surah 812.

00:58:45.000 Remember when the Lord inspired the angels, I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed.

00:58:49.000 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, so strike them upon necks and strike them from every fingertip.

00:58:54.000 This is not talking about an isolated incident or historical documentation of war. 0.99

00:58:58.000 These are open-ended calls that are central to the theology of Islam.

00:59:03.000 And it becomes increasingly centered on this the later into the Quran you get.

00:59:08.000 Again, abrogation, that's important to note.

00:59:09.000 Let's get to the slave portion here.

00:59:12.000 And yes, let's do that next.

00:59:14.000 See, I know a man who advocated for the freedom of the slaves.

00:59:19.000 Except he personally owned at least four female slaves. 0.98

00:59:22.000 So there's that.

00:59:23.000 But I guess Burkitt's sex slaves don't count.

00:59:26.000 He also had slaves of the non-child bride, non-sex variety. 0.88

00:59:29.000 As we see in Sahih Muslim 3901, we have this up here where he talked about slaves.

00:59:34.000 And then, of course, we have more context where...

00:59:37.000 He bought slaves.

00:59:39.000 We have Ibn Sayyid Kisham 484 where he's instructing you how to treat slaves, what needs to be done with slaves.

00:59:46.000 Basically all kinds of slaves.

00:59:48.000 Sex slaves, non-sex slaves, just a big slave-owning dude. 0.99

00:59:51.000 That's why there's still slavery in the Islamic world. 1.00

00:59:54.000 Not so much in Western Europe.

00:59:55.000 We need to fight fire with fire.

00:59:55.000 You know what?

00:59:58.000 We're going to go to a break and I'm going to try my hand at slam poetry in the break.

01:00:03.000 We'll come back and we'll wrap this up for you.

01:00:04.000 But spoken word poetry, it's become my thing.

01:00:07.000 Let's watch it.

01:00:08.000 Maybe the reason these people act in his name is because, unlike I say, terrorists and Muhammad are one and the same. 0.97

01:00:33.000 See, maybe the reason for pipe bombs and suicide vests is to fulfill the teachings of Muhammad, just like the rest. 0.99

01:00:41.000 See, the technology wasn't good back then.

01:00:43.000 It took a while to get there.

01:00:45.000 Like this fringy pubic hair beard that looks like my back hair.

01:00:49.000 Pause!

01:00:50.000 See, new camera angle for dramatic effect.

01:00:53.000 This propaganda needs style or else I'll get wrecked. 0.99

01:00:58.000 Maybe the reason so many Muslims hate Christians and Jews is because Muhammad himself said they're worth less than you. 0.96

01:01:06.000 See, I paint a man who spoke against slavery and lived life so serene. 1.00

01:01:11.000 But Muhammad had more sex slaves in sex dungeons than the late Charlie Sheen. 0.98

01:01:15.000 Oh wait, he's still alive? 1.00

01:01:18.000 But I thought he had AIDS. That's not a big deal now.

01:01:22.000 I guess my mistake.

01:01:24.000 Muhammad made clear that no non-Muslims are innocent. 1.00

01:01:28.000 So your choice is convert, pay the tax, or die. 0.91

01:01:31.000 Isn't that magnificent?

01:01:33.000 See, no forgiveness for those who rejected his teachings, which, by the way, changed all the time.

01:01:39.000 Oh, what's this I'm reading?

01:01:41.000 It's true, Muhammad started off peaceful, but got increasingly angry. 0.93

01:01:46.000 But you need to learn about abrogation to understand the insanity.

01:01:50.000 See, what that means is what Muhammad taught later has to supersede. 0.60

01:01:55.000 All the previous Islamic teachings, which then ceased to be.

01:01:58.000 When you take Muhammad's teachings and life as a whole, his story is clear. 1.00

01:02:03.000 He was a wife-beating, pedophile, serial-killing bigot who was really just an overall piece of s***. 1.00

01:02:11.000 The End 1.00

01:02:41.000 Glad to be back.

01:02:42.000 Fixing my hair.

01:02:44.000 Good slam poetry for those listening terrestrially who missed it.

01:02:46.000 Great job.

01:02:47.000 That was fantastic.

01:02:48.000 Okay, so we have to get back to the points here on Talk Islam.

01:02:52.000 We have to wrap this up.

01:02:53.000 Okay, let's run the next clip, Jared.

01:02:59.000 This is the man I follow, so forgive me if this sounds unusual.

01:03:03.000 But the man I know was so much more handsome, so beautiful. 0.69

01:03:11.000 I guess now is about the time when we're not supposed to mention that closeted homosexuality is rampant in Islamic countries. 0.98

01:03:17.000 Childish, yes. 0.96

01:03:18.000 Relevant, I would argue very much so.

01:03:20.000 Next clip.

01:03:21.000 But nevertheless, I know a man who still taught us to stand up for the oppressed.

01:03:28.000 Okay, alright people, let's skip the macro.

01:03:30.000 Here's where we tie it all together.

01:03:32.000 I've clearly just proven.

01:03:34.000 By the way, this guy at TalkIslam is welcome to come on the program.

01:03:38.000 He's done online rebuttals.

01:03:39.000 I don't do online rebuttals to anyone against whom I'm not willing to debate in person. 0.92

01:03:45.000 I think that's something that a coward does.

01:03:47.000 He's been welcomed onto the program. 0.97

01:03:48.000 He's decided, no, I'm just going to do the YouTube back-and-forth public urination contest.

01:03:53.000 So you're welcome to come on the show.

01:03:55.000 I feel that I've pretty definitively proven that no non-Muslims can be innocent, according to Muhammad in Islam. 0.99

01:04:00.000 He talks about the oppressed. 0.94

01:04:01.000 It's important to note, not gay, Jared. 1.00

01:04:03.000 I don't know how much of this you kind of knew before today.

01:04:06.000 You're an educated guy, but a lot of people don't know this about Islam.

01:04:09.000 Yeah, I don't know much.

01:04:10.000 Anyone who refuses Islamic subjugation is not only not innocent, but they are seen as an oppressor, according to Muhammad.

01:04:16.000 Yes, even you watching, Mr.

01:04:17.000 Tolerant, liberal atheist, who thinks that you are appreciative of Islamic culture.

01:04:23.000 I have an Islamic, I don't have it up here, but they talk about how the 30th sin, which is mentioned as one of the greater sins, is not helping the oppressed people.

01:04:29.000 To defend the oppressed is to ward off evil, according to Islam.

01:04:33.000 And not performing such a task is considered shirking a great duty, which Allah has made incumbent upon Muslims. 0.82

01:04:40.000 So, anyone who is engaged in evil is an oppressor, according to Islam. 0.58

01:04:47.000 Anything non-Muslim or against Islam is evil.

01:04:52.000 Ergo, anybody who fights for the freedom to engage in evil is an oppressor. 1.00

01:04:59.000 And they can be put to death. 0.92

01:05:00.000 That's the thing. 1.00

01:05:01.000 Fight against oppressors, kill them. 1.00

01:05:03.000 Don't hurt innocents. 1.00

01:05:04.000 If you're not Muslim, you can't be innocent. 1.00

01:05:06.000 If you refuse Islam, you are an oppressor. 1.00

01:05:09.000 And Muhammad made it clear that they are justified in killing you. 1.00

01:05:11.000 Do all Muslims follow this? 1.00

01:05:13.000 Did Muhammad teach this?

01:05:13.000 No.

01:05:15.000 Absolutely!

01:05:17.000 That's what he taught.

01:05:18.000 That's how he lived his life.

01:05:19.000 That's what's so important to know about Muhammad.

01:05:22.000 Chapter and verse.

01:05:23.000 All here.

01:05:23.000 We'll have all the references at ladderwithcreditor.com.

01:05:25.000 Here's the thing with Islam, too. 0.99

01:05:26.000 It's sort of like the Second Amendment.

01:05:27.000 We've talked about this.

01:05:28.000 When taken very literally, it seems bad. 1.00

01:05:33.000 Kill all nonbelievers. 1.00

01:05:36.000 But context matters. 1.00

01:05:37.000 I understand that, right?

01:05:38.000 You can take verses in the Bible where we're talking about specific instances of war, regulations for battle during that time.

01:05:44.000 I get that.

01:05:45.000 I understand that.

01:05:46.000 That's not necessarily fair to do.

01:05:47.000 But here's the thing with Islam. 1.00

01:05:48.000 On its surface, it's bad. 0.90

01:05:50.000 When taken within context, however, it gets even worse.

01:05:54.000 So you talk Islam painted, well, it's propaganda. 0.97

01:05:57.000 They painted a picture of a man who demanded peace, humane treatment of the innocent, of animals, fought against slavery.

01:06:03.000 Loved the trees.

01:06:04.000 Loved the trees.

01:06:04.000 Big fan of the trees.

01:06:05.000 Big fan of the foliage and protected the oppressors. 0.99

01:06:08.000 The reality is that Muhammad was a sex slave owning, wife beating pedophile who made it expressly clear that all non-Muslims by definition cannot be innocent. 0.98

01:06:16.000 And that all non-Muslims who refuse to subject themselves to Islam are by definition oppressors. 0.99

01:06:22.000 Who were ordered by Muhammad to be fought and killed. 0.98

01:06:25.000 Read the Quran if you're listening to this.

01:06:29.000 Check the references at louderwithcrowder.com.

01:06:32.000 They'll all be there.

01:06:32.000 Learn the context.

01:06:34.000 So learn the verses and read beyond the verses.

01:06:37.000 Learn the context.

01:06:39.000 Fact check me, please.

01:06:42.000 And prove me where I'm wrong.

01:06:43.000 I welcome it.

01:06:44.000 That's my challenge to you.

01:06:47.000 We don't have an outro.

01:06:49.000 We don't.

01:06:49.000 Maybe play some more slam poetry, though.

01:06:51.000 Do we have some more slam poetry of his?

01:06:53.000 Oh, we don't?

01:06:53.000 We don't.

01:06:54.000 You thought we could do it, but we don't actually have it.

01:06:57.000 Tweet me, at Ask Crowder.

01:06:58.000 I'm more than happy to.

01:07:00.000 Maybe I can get up on Twitter here and see what people think about the Talk Islam business.

01:07:07.000 I read the Koran with an open mind and heart, says Stephanie Spears.

01:07:10.000 It truly is an evil text.

01:07:11.000 Muslims can turn anything into anything. 1.00

01:07:14.000 I think she meant to write something else there, but I appreciate it. 0.98

01:07:18.000 Chewbacca's lover, at Chewy's lover, said, Talk Islam really sounds like a drunk gay Christopher Walken to me. 0.84

01:07:25.000 I can kind of see that. 0.93

01:07:26.000 I'm trying to think if he's talking about Islam.

01:07:30.000 Muhammad in the Koran. 1.00

01:07:33.000 Kill Jews! 1.00

01:07:34.000 The weepy tone, I think is what it is. 1.00

01:07:36.000 What is that with the weepy tone?

01:07:38.000 Is that kind of Macklemore?

01:07:40.000 No, I don't see him doing it too much.

01:07:43.000 What's funny is talk Islam. 1.00

01:07:44.000 It's popular with this style of music and this style of...

01:07:46.000 Don't call that music.

01:07:47.000 I'm ashamed.

01:07:48.000 I love hip-hop.

01:07:49.000 That's not hip-hop.

01:07:50.000 He's against music.

01:07:51.000 He's part of the school of thought with Islam where they think music is bad and evil. 1.00

01:07:55.000 So they've tricked God by putting a musical background, but he's just doing spoken word.

01:07:59.000 So it's technically not music.

01:08:01.000 See, because God doesn't pick up on bass tones.

01:08:03.000 He doesn't.

01:08:04.000 That's clever.

01:08:05.000 It's clever.

01:08:05.000 I never thought about that.

01:08:06.000 God can be easy to trick.

01:08:09.000 He is that.

01:08:10.000 He may be omnipresent, but he's not really up to date on the electric beats, on the technology with music creation.

01:08:18.000 So, what do you say?

01:08:19.000 S. Crowder just called Muhammad a piece of blank.

01:08:22.000 I'm glad this guy concealed carries or I'd be worried for his safety.

01:08:26.000 You know, here's one thing, and people have asked us if we would sell that Muhammad shirt from the Bob Ross painting.

01:08:31.000 If people want that and you'll wear it, we'll sell it.

01:08:33.000 We're going to create the store.

01:08:34.000 Here's the thing.

01:08:35.000 Here's why we do this, okay?

01:08:36.000 And if you just look at that segment we just did, is it offensive?

01:08:39.000 Sure.

01:08:41.000 But it is remarkably researched.

01:08:43.000 And I'm a comedian.

01:08:43.000 Like I said, my aim there is fact-check me.

01:08:45.000 Prove me wrong.

01:08:46.000 I'm open to it.

01:08:47.000 I want to be proven wrong.

01:08:49.000 Let me give you an idea as to where I was wrong.

01:08:51.000 Patriot Act.

01:08:52.000 Now, I was too young.

01:08:54.000 To really have a vote at that point.

01:08:57.000 But I've talked about this on the show.

01:08:58.000 I willfully admit...

01:09:00.000 Now, in spirit, am I still less...

01:09:02.000 Was I less worried of George W. Bush using the Patriot Act for abuse and Barack Obama?

01:09:06.000 Yes.

01:09:08.000 And it has been used...

01:09:10.000 It has been abused grossly.

01:09:11.000 Now, I was young.

01:09:12.000 I was in my teens.

01:09:13.000 And I thought, well, you know what?

01:09:14.000 Everyone supported the Patriot Act after 9-11.

01:09:16.000 I've talked about this.

01:09:17.000 It's not a principle change.

01:09:18.000 It was, as a young person, I didn't think of someone like Barack Obama coming in.

01:09:22.000 Most people supported the war after 9-11.

01:09:24.000 And you thought we had to.

01:09:24.000 Exactly.

01:09:25.000 I didn't see Barack Obama coming.

01:09:28.000 And I've learned from that.

01:09:30.000 I've learned from that.

01:09:31.000 I am willing to say, hey, here's where I was wrong.

01:09:34.000 Here's why I was wrong.

01:09:36.000 The reason we do this with Islam and the Quran and drawing Muhammad is so hopefully more of you do because they can't catch us all. 0.97

01:09:43.000 And the more you do it, the less power they have.

01:09:45.000 The more you shine a light on this, the less power they have.

01:09:47.000 The less individuals they can pick off because if just a mob of people are drawing Muhammad and a mob of people are opening their criticism, guess what?

01:09:54.000 It makes it a lot harder to fight.

01:09:55.000 Do we have a guest coming up?

01:09:56.000 Matt George coming up.

01:09:57.000 Oh, that's right!

01:09:58.000 We have them on hold.

01:09:59.000 Matt George, speaking of Islam, Muslim couple out there in Georgia allegedly tried to abduct... 0.97

01:10:05.000 Then they got screwed. 0.97

01:10:06.000 ...his little child, 14 months old, and then the media called them racist. 0.99

01:10:09.000 Not the Muslims who tried to... 1.00

01:10:10.000 But him!

01:10:11.000 Him! 0.99

01:10:12.000 Kidnap a child as long as they're racist. 0.99

01:10:14.000 It's cool. 0.98

01:10:15.000 It's cool.

01:10:16.000 Let's go!

01:10:17.000 Rifles and Accessories Warehouse.

01:10:34.000 Hi, this is Neil Steinberg of the Chicago Sun-Times, and I was just calling to see if I could come on in there and, for a story that I'm doing, purchase a machine gun.

01:10:44.000 Well, we in fact do not sell machine guns.

01:10:49.000 You will be hard-pressed to find anybody who can.

01:10:53.000 Any semi-automatic variant will do.

01:10:55.000 I thought you said you were looking to procure a machine gun.

01:11:00.000 Yes, any machine gun, you know, any...

01:11:02.000 Yes!

01:11:03.000 Yes, any semi-automatic machine gun will work for the report.

01:11:07.000 Well, you're discussing two different things.

01:11:10.000 There are fully automatic machine guns, and there are semi-automatic, both rifles and pistols.

01:11:18.000 What is it that you are looking for?

01:11:22.000 Hmm...

01:11:23.000 I guess I just assumed...

01:11:25.000 Do you mean to tell me that you work for a major publication, Like the Chicago Sun-Times.

01:11:32.000 And your level of understanding of current firearm technology is so limited that you genuinely do not understand the difference between a semi-automatic and a fully automatic machine gun.

01:11:48.000 Wait a second.

01:11:50.000 Are you that guy who was denied a rifle for beating his wife?

01:11:55.000 Well, that's not necessarily the way I'd put it.

01:11:58.000 No, it's the way the law puts it.

01:12:00.000 In a legal fashion. 1.00

01:12:01.000 And from a personal standpoint, you are a piece of human shit. 1.00

01:12:31.000 Glad to be back. 1.00

01:12:32.000 Always great, Pogo.

01:12:32.000 Pogo Bump.

01:12:33.000 We love the Pogo.

01:12:35.000 So let me set this up for our next guest, because this is something that was a story we've talked about.

01:12:39.000 I think we've written about it at ladderwithcreditor.com.

01:12:41.000 Jared was on top of it.

01:12:41.000 Not Gay.

01:12:43.000 This happened in Georgia.

01:12:45.000 It was on the news.

01:12:46.000 The couple was at a Michael's hobby shop, for those of you who don't know.

01:12:50.000 And an Islamic woman, basically, when the mother looked away, and I'll have the man explain it for us in a second, lifted the child, tried to take the child out of the cart, tried to unbuckle the child, and they went to the police. 0.90

01:13:03.000 And then, next thing you know, it's a whole new story, and people thought they were being Islamophobic.

01:13:08.000 I'm not entirely sure.

01:13:09.000 But the man is here, the husband, Michael George.

01:13:12.000 Someone tried to steal your kid?

01:13:12.000 Hit us with it.

01:13:14.000 Matt George at Michael's.

01:13:16.000 Yeah, Matt George at Michael's.

01:13:17.000 What did I say?

01:13:18.000 Michael George.

01:13:18.000 It's confusing because there's a Michael and a Matt in the story.

01:13:21.000 Matt George from Michael's.

01:13:23.000 Someone tried to yank your toddler.

01:13:25.000 Yeah, I get that a lot, anyway, the Michael Jordan thing.

01:13:27.000 Okay.

01:13:29.000 Yeah, no, it was pretty scary.

01:13:32.000 It happened, like you said.

01:13:34.000 I mean, it was...

01:13:34.000 My wife was in line, and we have identical twins.

01:13:41.000 And we're used to people coming up to them all the time.

01:13:41.000 Right.

01:13:44.000 In fact, I tell people, if you ever want to know what it's like to be famous, we also have...

01:13:48.000 Great Danes.

01:13:49.000 So if you ever want to know what it's like to be famous, just buy a Great Dane, go for a walk.

01:13:55.000 So we're used to people coming up to us.

01:13:58.000 That's an important point because that sets the tone where it's not like this is something out of the ordinary, people coming up commenting or wanting to look at your little ones.

01:14:08.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:14:09.000 And in fact, that was like, you know, when we became pregnant with the twins, my first question was, well, at least are they identical?

01:14:16.000 That way we could have, you know, sort of a sideshow aspect to the whole thing.

01:14:19.000 Right.

01:14:21.000 As opposed to just having two babies at the same time, which don't really count.

01:14:24.000 You can have them do the same sport so they have double the recovery, they cut the recovery time in half.

01:14:28.000 I get it.

01:14:29.000 So I have the story relatively accurate.

01:14:29.000 Okay.

01:14:32.000 Just kind of give us a recap because we don't have a ton of time and then I want to get to your reaction.

01:14:36.000 Okay, so real quickly, what happened was she was in line.

01:14:41.000 There were a couple of girls behind her who were also identical twins.

01:14:44.000 I'm sorry, they were just regular twins in their 20s.

01:14:47.000 And they said, oh my God, you have twins?

01:14:51.000 We're twins.

01:14:52.000 So my wife turns and starts to talk to her. 1.00

01:14:55.000 Now, she's wearing one of our kids on her, and she has the other one strapped in.

01:15:01.000 These boys are 14 months old.

01:15:03.000 One of them was sick, and that's why she was wearing them. 0.96

01:15:05.000 Okay.

01:15:06.000 And so she notices something going on behind her.

01:15:11.000 She turns to see a woman hunched over And she's lifting up our son Briggs out of the cart.

01:15:22.000 And what happened was the woman was startled because our son was strapped in.

01:15:28.000 And when she noticed that he was strapped in, actually what happened was my wife noticed what was going on, put her hand up and said, what are you doing?

01:15:36.000 And the woman, at that moment, put the boy down, goes to unbuckle him, And try to pick him up again. 0.82

01:15:45.000 And that was the moment that my wife was like, whoa, stop! 1.00

01:15:48.000 And she yelled. 1.00

01:15:50.000 And at that point, the male companion who was with her turned around, looked at her, and said something in Arabic.

01:16:00.000 We don't know what it was.

01:16:01.000 Could have been Farsi. 0.66

01:16:02.000 Stop being racist. 0.97

01:16:03.000 Continue.

01:16:03.000 Exactly.

01:16:04.000 I know.

01:16:05.000 I've already been accused of that three times.

01:16:07.000 So she turns around.

01:16:11.000 The woman turns around, having once looked at my wife. 1.00

01:16:15.000 Not once.

01:16:16.000 And so she turns around and goes to the checkout counter. 0.95

01:16:19.000 My wife turns to the girls and says, that was really weird, wasn't it?

01:16:23.000 That wasn't just me.

01:16:25.000 And the girls go, yeah, that was pretty weird.

01:16:28.000 Something special.

01:16:29.000 Yeah, so we have the incident.

01:16:30.000 You go to the cops, and this comes out as a story.

01:16:34.000 Now, I want to get into it because, like I said, we did see some people saying, oh, they're just being racist, Islamophobic.

01:16:40.000 By the way, not an illogical phobia, whatever the phobia is here when someone's trying to unbuckle your foot.

01:16:45.000 14 months old, I would say that's a logical concern.

01:16:48.000 They chalked it up to, was it the legal terminology, cultural differences?

01:16:54.000 We were told several different stories from immigration through the police.

01:16:59.000 So the first story we got was that it's cultural differences.

01:17:02.000 Oftentimes when people from other countries come to the United States, oftentimes they will not have seen an African-American child.

01:17:12.000 So out of curiosity, they'll pick them up.

01:17:14.000 They'll just go pick them up.

01:17:15.000 And I was like, well, that doesn't really work with us in this particular scenario because...

01:17:20.000 Do you believe that or do you think something else was going on?

01:17:23.000 You know...

01:17:24.000 It's entirely speculative.

01:17:26.000 I get that, but...

01:17:27.000 Yeah.

01:17:29.000 You know, it's really hard to tell at this point.

01:17:32.000 Okay.

01:17:33.000 What we do know is that none of it makes any sense.

01:17:37.000 Right.

01:17:37.000 My wife has had cultural barriers before.

01:17:39.000 She's had Hispanic women come up to her that don't speak English and say, oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

01:17:45.000 And my wife goes, yes, yeah, no problem.

01:17:47.000 Your Spanish is impeccable.

01:17:48.000 A little bit of an accent, but yeah.

01:17:49.000 I know.

01:17:50.000 And so, she's very accommodating, but in this instance, there was no eye contact, no nothing.

01:17:57.000 Well, let me say a couple of things that are sort of...

01:17:59.000 My parents live in an area that's a lot of Indian people, and my wife is six foot and blonde.

01:18:05.000 And I will say this, a cultural difference, like, they leer, so she'll just be walking through the supermarket, and they just... 0.98

01:18:10.000 Right.

01:18:12.000 The entire time, and she'll be like, hi, hello, like, try and greet them.

01:18:15.000 You know, she's not upset by it, and they just...

01:18:16.000 And they look away.

01:18:18.000 So, I ended up, like, literally that leer, that...

01:18:21.000 That's all they do.

01:18:22.000 If you're walking through Walmart, just hundreds of Indian men just looking at my wife that way. 0.94

01:18:25.000 And she's not mad about it, but she gets a little uncomfortable when she says, Hi, how are you?

01:18:29.000 And they don't respond.

01:18:30.000 So that happens.

01:18:31.000 And we'll tell you from Montreal, the missing children's list.

01:18:33.000 This is entirely anecdotal.

01:18:35.000 I can't substantiate this as a statistic.

01:18:37.000 We would always have, like, Yusuf, Munam, Muhammad. 0.99

01:18:41.000 There were always a ton of Muslim kids who were missing.

01:18:44.000 And we did have a woman on here who left Islam, and she did say, well, culturally that makes sense because she had to leave and go into hiding because the woman has no rights to her children. 0.86

01:18:52.000 Abduction is actually pretty common.

01:18:54.000 There's a culture of child abduction in Islam.

01:18:58.000 So, you know, if there are cultural differences, it still could mean that the cultural differences are kidnapping.

01:19:05.000 Right.

01:19:06.000 Yeah.

01:19:06.000 Well, we heard two different stories from the police.

01:19:10.000 When this first happened, the cops were like, yeah, this is a really scary thing.

01:19:17.000 My wife actually took a picture of the couple, and we had debated about posting the couple on social media, and they actually had a child.

01:19:25.000 And the police at that time, very early on, said, yeah, you should post it on social media, and you should not blur out the child, because there's a very good chance that child was kidnapped, too.

01:19:34.000 They actually said that to us.

01:19:36.000 So they found the couple because they've only been in the United States for six weeks.

01:19:42.000 Right.

01:19:43.000 And they are from?

01:19:44.000 Afghanistan.

01:19:45.000 We were originally told they were from Iraq.

01:19:47.000 And that story has now changed.

01:19:49.000 We're now being told they're from Afghanistan, and immigration has told us, you know, we're just trying to work them into the system.

01:19:56.000 And my whole point is, and yet another example of government agencies working spectacularly well, let's say this is just all a perfect, let's say it was all innocent.

01:20:08.000 Then immigration is failing these people, big time. 0.87

01:20:11.000 Yeah.

01:20:12.000 No, we don't do that in America.

01:20:13.000 We don't play it.

01:20:13.000 And if someone reaches for their hip, for their concealed carry, because you're trying to unbuckle their kid, guess what?

01:20:18.000 Those are the dice you roll when you grab someone else's kid in the United States.

01:20:21.000 I'm fine with that.

01:20:22.000 Yeah.

01:20:24.000 So there's nothing really to do moving forward.

01:20:27.000 You just seem to have sympathetic police officers, from what I understand, mostly, but an unsympathetic, I guess, sort of liberal contingency of the media.

01:20:34.000 You've had some backlash.

01:20:35.000 You've been accused of being racist, Islamophobic, if I'm right?

01:20:38.000 Mostly on Facebook, mostly social media.

01:20:40.000 My wife has tried to make it as even as possible, but yeah, we've been accused of being racist even for just posting it.

01:20:47.000 Isn't it?

01:20:48.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:20:48.000 If they're assuming that there are cultural differences, where this is okay, right?

01:20:52.000 And you're not okay with that with your child.

01:20:54.000 I'm not okay with a stranger grabbing my child, period.

01:20:56.000 Right?

01:20:56.000 I don't care who they are.

01:20:58.000 So if they're admitting these are cultural differences, then isn't it perfectly valid for you to be concerned with an Islamic person approaching your child because you're not comfortable with it? 0.98

01:21:08.000 That is a form of discrimination.

01:21:09.000 That is a form of generalization that seems to be entirely appropriate for you to make as a parent, even if that's the case.

01:21:16.000 Yeah, I would agree.

01:21:18.000 And at the bottom line, even if you were to take everything out of it, take the cultural, the appropriation out of it, whatever, the fact that this woman didn't even look at my wife has raised so many red flags for us that we're just...

01:21:34.000 She could have just been beaten.

01:21:36.000 You know, honestly, she could be so beaten, broken down by her husband that she's afraid.

01:21:39.000 That actually occurred to us, to be honest with you.

01:21:41.000 I mean, there was a part of us that thought maybe she just was so intimidated by even the presence of her husband.

01:21:48.000 So the police found the couple.

01:21:50.000 They did actually go to their house.

01:21:51.000 The husband apologized profusely.

01:21:53.000 And the police came back to my house to tell me that the husband, it was all a big mistake, that there was no intention to kidnap the child.

01:22:04.000 And I looked, there was a 30-year veteran and a 15-year veteran.

01:22:09.000 I looked at the 30-year veteran and I said, we were told by immigration that this is a common occurrence.

01:22:15.000 How many times have you had to deal with this kind of thing?

01:22:17.000 And he went...

01:22:19.000 Never.

01:22:20.000 Never.

01:22:21.000 Yeah, it's a good...

01:22:22.000 What you said was a really good point.

01:22:24.000 Immigration is failing them. 1.00

01:22:26.000 You know, it's one thing to not even learn the language, obviously, is a problem.

01:22:30.000 It's one thing to not really assimilate or obviously come here illegally or not pay taxes.

01:22:35.000 Stand on the toilets.

01:22:36.000 Stand on the toilets.

01:22:37.000 That's the worst.

01:22:38.000 They do that?

01:22:38.000 There's shoe prints all over the toilets.

01:22:40.000 Yeah.

01:22:41.000 I think those are just the truck stops you go to, and I don't think it's because of people using the toilets for their initial design.

01:22:49.000 That's fair.

01:22:50.000 But at a certain point, they're grabbing people's children, unbuckling someone's...

01:22:55.000 And I hope that anyone who's a leftist or social justice warrior would at least put themselves in your shoes, because I watched the interview.

01:23:01.000 We have it up on the website where your wife said, like, we're used to people coming up to us.

01:23:04.000 That's fine.

01:23:05.000 But not looking you in the face, trying to take your 14-month-old, 16-month-old...

01:23:11.000 14 months old and unbuckling it when you're not looking, that is something I think would terrify any parent.

01:23:19.000 Any parent!

01:23:20.000 Yeah, and a lot of people have said, why didn't you do more?

01:23:23.000 Why didn't you jump on the woman? 0.99

01:23:25.000 Why didn't you do this?

01:23:26.000 Why didn't you do that?

01:23:26.000 She ultimately had the situation under control when the woman dropped our baby.

01:23:32.000 And, you know, it's tough.

01:23:34.000 When you're in those types of situations, who knows how you're going to react.

01:23:37.000 Yeah.

01:23:38.000 Yeah, well, I'm just amazed as to it's a big misunderstanding.

01:23:42.000 I'm surprised, too.

01:23:43.000 What I want to know is, if he's so apologetic when the cops came over, this is entirely, listen, I'm speculating Monday quarterback, that's fine.

01:23:49.000 But if he was so apologetic to the cops, why did he turn to that woman and say something in what we think was Arabic without acknowledging you in the moment?

01:23:59.000 Why didn't he turn to you and say, I'm so sorry, and explain it?

01:24:01.000 Yeah.

01:24:01.000 Why not say it in English?

01:24:02.000 And also, the other thing I was going to say, that the police very initially early on were like, yeah, this could be a problem.

01:24:12.000 They told us about the I-20 corridor being a big human trafficking corridor.

01:24:17.000 And so...

01:24:20.000 You know, they've kind of shifted.

01:24:21.000 They went from, yeah, this is really serious, to coming over here and going, yeah, it was all a big mistake.

01:24:26.000 Sorry.

01:24:27.000 Right.

01:24:28.000 And it could be a big mistake, but I'm just wondering, you know, for me, right away, like, you know, you have overly sensitive parents where I'll be like, and lying, and the parents, how dare you?

01:24:38.000 And I'm just like, I'm just, your kid was smiling, and sorry, you know, and I'll just clarify, hey, I'm sorry, your kid was making a face.

01:24:42.000 I made a face back at him.

01:24:43.000 I get kids death stares all the time.

01:24:45.000 I just, parents are looking.

01:24:47.000 Yeah, I know, but you aim your Smith& Wesson at them, and you're not supposed to do that.

01:24:51.000 It's a bad idea.

01:24:52.000 One day I'll learn.

01:24:53.000 One day.

01:24:54.000 It only takes one accident.

01:24:56.000 But I would right away, I would imagine they'd try and mitigate it.

01:24:59.000 So I'm sorry, there just seems like a whole bunch of things all around that are incomplete here.

01:25:03.000 Is that music to take us to the break?

01:25:05.000 No.

01:25:05.000 It's just miscellaneous music going on.

01:25:08.000 I'm sorry, Matt and Jared.

01:25:10.000 It's saying you've gone on too long.

01:25:11.000 No, no, no, he's not.

01:25:13.000 Okay, so what would you say to people?

01:25:14.000 What do you do now?

01:25:15.000 What would you say to people who were first hearing about this story?

01:25:18.000 Or do you have any advice for parents?

01:25:19.000 Ultimately, the lesson is, you know, buckle your kids in, even at their shop.

01:25:23.000 I mean, that was what she took away from it.

01:25:26.000 We don't know what would have happened had she not even had Briggs buckled into the seat.

01:25:32.000 So, you know, that's...

01:25:35.000 All we can take from it at this point. 0.86

01:25:37.000 And that the guy, if nothing else, is a total prick because he should have apologized there on the spot.

01:25:41.000 You didn't say it. 0.95

01:25:42.000 I said it.

01:25:42.000 If I were a dad, I would be upset with him.

01:25:44.000 Matt George, thank you so much.

01:25:45.000 If anything develops, please keep us posted, okay?

01:25:48.000 Will do.

01:25:48.000 Yes, sir.

01:25:49.000 And his name is Matt.

01:25:50.000 His name is not Michael.

01:25:51.000 It happened at Michael's.

01:25:52.000 And that is a creepy story, man.

01:25:53.000 I don't know.

01:25:54.000 It is creepy.

01:25:54.000 I know we're supposed to be tolerant of everybody, but I don't have a lot of tolerance for people who go around just snatching up kids with no eye contact.

01:26:01.000 Don't do it.

01:26:01.000 It's a douchey thing to do.

01:26:02.000 It is douchey.

01:26:03.000 And now, Samantha Bee punctuates her salient point with extreme profanity while wearing a cool leather jacket. 1.00

01:26:03.000 At least. 1.00

01:26:19.000 So you know what, Republicans? 1.00

01:26:21.000 F*** you! 1.00

01:26:23.000 Right? 1.00

01:26:24.000 Look at my jacket!

01:26:24.000 Am I right?

01:26:26.000 And now back to your programming.

01:26:28.000 Thank you.

01:26:58.000 Glad to be back.

01:27:03.000 Amped up.

01:27:04.000 Amped up.

01:27:05.000 Ready to go.

01:27:06.000 Skag 3 after the break.

01:27:08.000 After the break.

01:27:09.000 Yeah, after the break.

01:27:10.000 No, wait, no.

01:27:11.000 We got two segments, then Skag.

01:27:12.000 Gosh, we're all over the map.

01:27:14.000 We've been trying to really plan these shows a little better, a little tighter, and so sometimes it gives me a little less room to just sort of do the free flow.

01:27:21.000 Okay, we talked about this last week.

01:27:23.000 So let me set this up.

01:27:24.000 This guy, Michael Woods Jr., has been on...

01:27:27.000 I don't know if I would say friend.

01:27:29.000 I would like to say friend, but I don't know him that well.

01:27:31.000 But a man who I respect, Joe Rogan, I've been on his program.

01:27:36.000 has been on Joe Rogan's program several times.

01:27:36.000 Michael Woods Jr.

01:27:39.000 And people were asking me and him to get together to do a debate.

01:27:43.000 So this is the clip they were sending me.

01:27:47.000 A disrespect beef or a drug war beef can lead to that shooting.

01:27:51.000 I want to have you sit down with someone who is a gun proponent.

01:27:55.000 Good luck.

01:27:56.000 What do you mean, good luck?

01:27:57.000 I've been here for a year doing this, day in and day out, challenging everyone from Sam Harris to whoever.

01:28:02.000 They're not going to do this.

01:28:03.000 The evidence is on my side.

01:28:05.000 Well, they're not going to do what?

01:28:06.000 Have a debate for you?

01:28:06.000 They're not going to have a debate.

01:28:07.000 Oh, they certainly would.

01:28:08.000 I could definitely set that up.

01:28:09.000 Okay.

01:28:09.000 Set it up.

01:28:10.000 Well, I could set it up with my friend Justin.

01:28:11.000 So the reason we did that, the reason we're doing this is because he said no one would.

01:28:16.000 So I sent out a tweet to him.

01:28:18.000 Now, let me be clear, saying...

01:28:20.000 Gladly would love to have a discussion on my program.

01:28:22.000 It would be effective.

01:28:23.000 We can do it wherever.

01:28:25.000 He tweeted this out.

01:28:26.000 I have this up on my screen.

01:28:27.000 All right, we will see what Joe says.

01:28:29.000 And if it doesn't work, we can do on a recorded Skype or something.

01:28:32.000 My DMs are open.

01:28:34.000 So that's great.

01:28:35.000 I was happy to see that.

01:28:37.000 Now, after that, we try to book Michael Woods Jr.

01:28:42.000 Let me bring this up here.

01:28:43.000 Here is the next order.

01:28:46.000 This is Naki Jared, Stephen's producer.

01:28:49.000 Does this time work?

01:28:50.000 He said, I will be in L.A. doing pre-planned media all week.

01:28:53.000 Won't be able to schedule until I get back to the East Coast.

01:28:55.000 I said, okay, thanks.

01:28:56.000 Open invite.

01:28:56.000 You let me know.

01:28:57.000 Be well.

01:28:58.000 This is how we left it.

01:28:59.000 After this point, Michael Woods Jr.

01:29:02.000 went out publicly on Twitter and said, new rules...

01:29:07.000 I'll only do the debate if you give to this GoFundMe.

01:29:10.000 And I don't remember what it was.

01:29:12.000 He claims it wasn't for him.

01:29:12.000 It was for charity.

01:29:13.000 And so people got on him about it because he's changing the terms.

01:29:17.000 So I said, well, what?

01:29:18.000 Hold on a second.

01:29:18.000 Why are you doing this?

01:29:19.000 You agreed to debate.

01:29:21.000 And then he, as you see on here, he said a debate.

01:29:23.000 He started direct messaging me after he went public, mind you.

01:29:25.000 And he released our private emails publicly first.

01:29:28.000 It's important to note that.

01:29:30.000 He said a debate means a proper debate.

01:29:31.000 Going on your show is an entirely different story.

01:29:33.000 Act professional.

01:29:34.000 He said we can do a prerecord on Skype.

01:29:34.000 I just showed you.

01:29:36.000 It was his suggestion.

01:29:37.000 So I told him that I didn't ask for a debate.

01:29:39.000 I asked for a discussion.

01:29:41.000 He was the one who used the word debate.

01:29:43.000 And let me just give you his final correspondence here, and then we'll get into the digging that we've done.

01:29:49.000 He said, I'm willing to essentially do your challenge, but as you should as a good person, attempt to raise the donations for the youth attempting to be a good citizen. 0.75

01:29:55.000 In good fun, not for you to come and be nice here and talk crap publicly.

01:30:00.000 We can do it in person as well.

01:30:01.000 So anyways, he kept changing the terms of debate.

01:30:02.000 He has no interest in debating me.

01:30:04.000 Let me say this one thing.

01:30:05.000 Every now and then I think Joe might watch or listen to the program.

01:30:08.000 He then was trying to leverage this, we talked about this last week, to get on to Joe Rogan's show.

01:30:12.000 I would love to debate him on Joe Rogan's show.

01:30:14.000 I'll debate him on any show, like you saw with Sky News.

01:30:16.000 That's fine.

01:30:17.000 But I would never be so pompous as to try and leverage this program, which is a decently viewed, listened to program for sure, onto Joe's program, which is a mammoth program.

01:30:27.000 It's not appropriate for me.

01:30:29.000 Michael Woods Jr.

01:30:29.000 has no problem doing it.

01:30:30.000 I invited him to the platform that I have.

01:30:33.000 And he said no and kept changing the term.

01:30:35.000 So it's important to note that.

01:30:36.000 Because here are a few things.

01:30:37.000 We've finally done some digging into Michael Woods Jr.

01:30:39.000 He claims no one wants to debate him.

01:30:40.000 And it seems like every time someone calls him on it, it turns into some sort of money grab for him.

01:30:47.000 So, his blog was Goodreads.

01:30:50.000 Here's his blog from a while ago.

01:30:51.000 I've done some digging.

01:30:52.000 Actually, my good friend R did some digging on him.

01:30:55.000 And I hate to say this, and I would hate to see Joe led by the nose by someone who I think is a bit of a fraud.

01:31:00.000 You can look at this and see it wasn't about racism.

01:31:03.000 It was all about pension.

01:31:05.000 It was all about benefits.

01:31:06.000 Here's a comment from back in 2012 from Michael Wood Jr.

01:31:11.000 where we found where he's talking about, again, contract dispute over pay raises.

01:31:17.000 The provision of our retirement changed from 25 years to 20 years.

01:31:21.000 College tuition reimbursement.

01:31:24.000 Here's the thing.

01:31:25.000 Before 2014, where he's come out and talked about systemic racism, he never complained about it.

01:31:30.000 He only complained about pension, about benefits, about pay, and he certainly seemed to have a persecution complex, which is...

01:31:40.000 And then it always led back to shameless self-promoting of his books.

01:31:43.000 That seems to be the common thread.

01:31:45.000 Always promoting his books.

01:31:47.000 As a matter of fact, here's something that really concerned me.

01:31:48.000 I did some digging.

01:31:49.000 Don't bring this up yet, Jared.

01:31:50.000 I'll bring it up on the screen.

01:31:51.000 He's never named a specific instance when he talks about how he was injured and he left the force.

01:31:55.000 A lot of people think he left...

01:31:56.000 No, he pulled his shoulder moving a desk.

01:31:59.000 He always avoids specifics.

01:32:01.000 I've looked through interviews.

01:32:03.000 And his recent education, I have it here on LinkedIn.

01:32:05.000 I did some digging.

01:32:06.000 They come from what some people could consider diploma mills, Kaplan University, Davenport Campus.

01:32:12.000 You can simply run a Google search to see some of the scandals associated there at Capella University.

01:32:16.000 I don't know if many people would take a PhD from there.

01:32:19.000 Seriously, there are some great online college programs.

01:32:21.000 These tend to be in the realm of those that are seen as shady.

01:32:27.000 Now, I'm not saying that to entirely discredit him, but it is something that kind of adds up.

01:32:32.000 And whenever he would write blogs or go somewhere, he promotes his books.

01:32:35.000 Something he talks about right here, too, it's on his LinkedIn, the Police Leadership Association.

01:32:40.000 This is something he talks about a lot, right?

01:32:41.000 You have an association, you have a nonprofit.

01:32:43.000 This is why I wouldn't want to be involved with any of his GoFundMe.

01:32:46.000 Well, I looked at it.

01:32:48.000 And if you go to the Police Leadership Association, the site's moved to PLAPublishing.com.

01:32:55.000 I have it right here on my screen.

01:32:56.000 So this is the association he claims, you know, to try and be altruistic.

01:32:59.000 Look, I'm helping police.

01:33:00.000 Well, you click it.

01:33:02.000 It goes to a web archive.

01:33:04.000 All of them, by the way.

01:33:06.000 It just goes to places where you can buy his book.

01:33:11.000 My computer's being slow right now because we're running everything.

01:33:13.000 And this is PLAPublishing.com.

01:33:16.000 Where you can go and buy his book.

01:33:18.000 Many books.

01:33:19.000 By the way, his writing isn't very good.

01:33:21.000 Don't bring this up on screen.

01:33:22.000 I'll read you some...

01:33:23.000 This is just me.

01:33:24.000 Brief excerpt from his novel.

01:33:26.000 With my left knee pinning his nuts to the concrete, right knee pinning his left arm down, left hand holding his head up, and right hand crushing his esophagus. 0.81

01:33:33.000 Lots of commas.

01:33:34.000 I look into his eyes.

01:33:35.000 Are you the one who took from me?

01:33:36.000 Emptiness.

01:33:37.000 Are you the one who did it?

01:33:38.000 Emptiness.

01:33:38.000 I can see in his eyes that this effer has no idea what I'm talking about.

01:33:42.000 It's like a 16-year-old emo kid. 0.97

01:33:43.000 Listen, I don't want to get into just how crappy... 0.84

01:33:46.000 Was that my...

01:33:47.000 Was that your diary?

01:33:49.000 Here's the deal, though.

01:33:51.000 Nothing seems to check out.

01:33:53.000 And when he's called on it and given an opportunity to clarify, he went on Joe Rogan, said no one would debate him.

01:33:58.000 We were friendly.

01:33:58.000 He changed the terms.

01:33:59.000 I'd like to find out exactly where this police association is because it doesn't exist.

01:34:04.000 And he has no history of speaking out against racism until he left and he made a career off of it, which he uses to push books.

01:34:13.000 Maybe you guys can get me some more info, but I smell something fishy.

01:34:16.000 We'll be back.

01:34:17.000 Welcome to episode 349 of the Game of Thrones Fandom Podcast.

01:34:42.000 I wanted to take this opportunity to use a platform that Eugene and I have created and influenced we have to send a direct message to George Martin, the brilliant and prolific creator of Game of Thrones, as well as its original inspirational content, the fictional series of a song of fire and ice.

01:35:01.000 George, your fans are crying out to you.

01:35:05.000 There has been a noticeable decrease in quality on the Game of Thrones show and your fans who have been loyally supporting you. 0.99

01:35:14.000 What more boobs and butts? 1.00

01:35:16.000 If the show doesn't have the boobs and butts, I just go watch the Lord of the f***ing rings. 1.00

01:35:22.000 Yeah, but I think Game of Thrones is more grown up than Lord of the Rings. 0.98

01:35:27.000 No, it's not the point, Eugene.

01:35:28.000 It's not about any appropriate content or the rigging the fire.

01:35:33.000 Listen!

01:35:37.000 If there's no boobies and busts, it's not Game of Thrones, George!

01:35:40.000 George!

01:35:42.000 George! 0.99

01:35:43.000 Get your s**t together, George! 0.99

01:35:45.000 All your fans, watch! 0.98

01:35:46.000 You're gonna return to form!

01:35:47.000 And now, for this week's installment of The View for this week's installment of The View Recap.

01:36:06.000 *laughter* Now back to your programming.

01:36:16.000 Glad to be back.

01:36:42.000 And we're going to have Skag3 after the break. 0.98

01:36:44.000 Up and coming YouTuber.

01:36:45.000 Yes.

01:36:46.000 Former liberal who's opened his mind a little bit.

01:36:49.000 We'll have hopefully a good discussion.

01:36:50.000 Get into his story and also where he lines up on the current election.

01:36:54.000 It's become so divisive now.

01:36:56.000 I feel like you're either a liberal or a former liberal.

01:36:58.000 You're not kind of half in.

01:37:00.000 There's no middle.

01:37:00.000 I think social media has so much with that too.

01:37:02.000 You got the polarizing that happens on social media.

01:37:05.000 You got people coming farther right, farther left.

01:37:08.000 Facebook's only giving you what you want to see.

01:37:10.000 Right.

01:37:11.000 I think you're seeing a lot.

01:37:12.000 I think a lot of today's problems are going on to social media.

01:37:14.000 Well, I don't consider myself a centrist at all.

01:37:16.000 I'm entirely open that I'm very far right.

01:37:18.000 But if you look at this program, we constantly have voices of opposition.

01:37:21.000 Half of our sources are from liberal websites.

01:37:23.000 The reason our stories at louderwithcrowder.com are different is because usually we're getting them from leftist sites.

01:37:29.000 Mm-hmm.

01:37:30.000 And a lot of the rights, it's just recycle the same stuff.

01:37:33.000 Matter of fact, this week was a good example of that rape story in Twin Falls, Idaho. 1.00

01:37:35.000 Everyone recycled something, but there was no real substantiation.

01:37:39.000 There was no source.

01:37:39.000 So I actually called up a woman who claimed the rape story was false of these refugees.

01:37:43.000 She claimed the, I don't know if it's DA or the prosecutor, And she said that he said none of this was true.

01:37:51.000 Well, I called her.

01:37:51.000 She didn't have any sources at all.

01:37:53.000 I called him, and I didn't get in touch with him.

01:37:56.000 But then after looking it up, the case was sealed.

01:37:58.000 So there's no way the claims she made could have been true.

01:38:00.000 But there's also no way the claims that a lot of the right-wing propagandists made could have been true.

01:38:05.000 It seems like the truth is somewhere there in the middle.

01:38:08.000 But I'm a comedian.

01:38:10.000 We're entertainers.

01:38:11.000 This is an entertainment program, and I'm amazed that nobody does this.

01:38:14.000 Again, please don't rely on me for information.

01:38:17.000 We get things wrong.

01:38:18.000 We issue corrections on this show very often, but we really do try, and that was one of the stories where I felt disappointed from the right and the left.

01:38:24.000 Okay, speaking of truth, we have a new segment here on Louder with Crowder.

01:38:29.000 We're going to be doing them more regularly because a lot of people have asked to sort of boil some arguments in a way that's succinct and shareable.

01:38:35.000 So this week in the new segment, top five crappiest, top five crappiest myths surrounding gun control.

01:38:42.000 That was just kind of ended.

01:38:51.000 I faded back to you.

01:38:52.000 Oh, you faded back to me.

01:38:53.000 It could have gone better.

01:38:54.000 All right, so we have a few gun control myths, and Not Gay Jared will be operating. 0.89

01:38:56.000 He's got all these inserts to bring up.

01:38:59.000 This is important right now, because these are the big myths that the left, that they're pushing, right, with a Democratic sit-in.

01:39:06.000 Let's hit myth number one.

01:39:09.000 You hear this a lot.

01:39:13.000 That assault rifles are a popular choice for mass shootings.

01:39:17.000 People can hear me, right?

01:39:18.000 Okay, good.

01:39:19.000 So that's not true.

01:39:21.000 That's not even close to true.

01:39:22.000 We put assault rifles in quotes because it doesn't really mean anything.

01:39:25.000 handguns are actually responsible for at least 80% of murders, of gun-related homicides.

01:39:32.000 And here's something, too.

01:39:33.000 When we talk about this, we're taking the most generous stats we can give to the left because you can find stats that say well over 90% are handguns.

01:39:40.000 Most mass shootings are carried out with handguns.

01:39:45.000 People need to understand that.

01:39:46.000 This idea, you're talking single-digit numbers as far as percentage points of people who are using the scary rifles, like an AR-15 that wasn't even used in Orlando.

01:39:54.000 It's not true.

01:39:55.000 It is not a choice of mass shooters, generally speaking.

01:39:58.000 It is certainly not a constant in firearm-related homicide.

01:40:03.000 If anything, it's the opposite.

01:40:06.000 Myth completely untrue.

01:40:07.000 Let's go to number two.

01:40:10.000 Myth number two.

01:40:11.000 It's easier to get a gun than a driver's license.

01:40:14.000 This one never made sense to me.

01:40:17.000 Every liberal site seems to have their top, like, 55 things that are easier to get than a gun.

01:40:21.000 And it's just, every single one of them is like a puppy.

01:40:21.000 Right.

01:40:24.000 Yeah.

01:40:25.000 Yeah, because you got some...

01:40:26.000 Yeah, squash.

01:40:26.000 Squash.

01:40:27.000 Vegetable.

01:40:28.000 Vegetables.

01:40:29.000 Organic fruit.

01:40:30.000 Yeah.

01:40:31.000 I think it is with an EBT card.

01:40:33.000 Here's what's so funny.

01:40:34.000 Anyone out there ever bought a firearm?

01:40:35.000 You need a driver's license.

01:40:37.000 Or a state-comparable ID. Anyone who's not had a driver's license, generally speaking, a state-comparable ID is harder to get than a driver's license.

01:40:44.000 You typically just use a driver's license because it's the easiest.

01:40:46.000 A lot of people in New York, they'll just do kind of the driver's license, do the test, because it's the easiest still thing to get.

01:40:52.000 You don't really want to go down to Secretary of State and do a state-issued IDs.

01:40:55.000 So, that's important.

01:40:57.000 Now, a driver's license is not a fundamental right.

01:41:00.000 Owning a firearm is.

01:41:02.000 Here are a couple of things.

01:41:03.000 Yes, cars are much more dangerous than guns.

01:41:06.000 Period.

01:41:08.000 Car fatalities far outpace gun fatalities.

01:41:10.000 It's not even close.

01:41:12.000 Now, I understand the argument that you'll make.

01:41:13.000 Well, a gun only has one purpose, whereas cars have other purposes.

01:41:17.000 Here's the thing.

01:41:17.000 A gun can be used entirely passively, putting no one at risk.

01:41:20.000 If I have a gun on my hip, it is of danger to no one.

01:41:25.000 Anytime you use your car, your vehicle...

01:41:28.000 Its purpose is to transport you from point A to point B. You are putting other people at risk.

01:41:32.000 Carrying a gun does not inherently put other people at risk.

01:41:34.000 You behind a wheel, no matter how good of a driver you are, puts that person at more risk than having even a loaded weapon on your hip.

01:41:42.000 That's important to note.

01:41:43.000 And that's why it's harder to get a driver's license, which you need to get your gun or state comparable ID, than a gun in some ways, in the sense that you have to jump through some hoops to get a driver's license to show that you can drive the car.

01:41:58.000 On the flip side, when you get a driver's license, have you had a criminal background check?

01:42:04.000 No.

01:42:05.000 Can you get a driver's license if you're a felon?

01:42:08.000 Yes.

01:42:08.000 What if you're a domestic abuser?

01:42:10.000 Yes. 0.99

01:42:11.000 What if you have mental illness? 0.99

01:42:12.000 Yes. 0.61

01:42:13.000 You can still get a driver's license.

01:42:14.000 Not so with a firearm.

01:42:16.000 You ever had to do a background check to get a driver's license?

01:42:18.000 Not usually, no.

01:42:20.000 Never.

01:42:20.000 No.

01:42:21.000 So...

01:42:23.000 Cars are much more dangerous than guns.

01:42:25.000 You also have to be 18 to get a firearm in most states, from what I understand.

01:42:28.000 Yep.

01:42:29.000 Is it all states?

01:42:30.000 Everyone that I've encountered.

01:42:32.000 Okay, 18, 16 to get a driver's license.

01:42:34.000 Yeah, or 15 and a half to get your permit.

01:42:36.000 Right.

01:42:36.000 Maybe 14, sometimes.

01:42:38.000 Long story short, cars are much more dangerous than guns, and it is much easier to get a driver's license than buy a firearm.

01:42:45.000 But then again, if you've ever actually bought a firearm, you don't buy the BS because you know that.

01:42:48.000 Let's go to myth number three.

01:42:52.000 Gun-free zones prevent mass shootings.

01:42:55.000 No.

01:42:56.000 This one is really simple.

01:42:57.000 We don't need to spend a lot of time on it.

01:42:59.000 92% of mass shootings since 2009 occurred in gun-free zones.

01:43:04.000 Listen.

01:43:05.000 It doesn't take an incredible logical leap to understand this.

01:43:08.000 If you're a shooter, you're going to find the easiest target.

01:43:10.000 The easiest target is an area where you're guaranteed there are no firearms.

01:43:17.000 Myth number four.

01:43:18.000 Myth number four.

01:43:21.000 Concealed carry holders don't stop violent crime. 1.00

01:43:24.000 This is one, and Michael Woods Jr.

01:43:25.000 likes to use this one a lot.

01:43:27.000 Well, there are tons of examples, okay, of concealed carry holders stopping crime.

01:43:31.000 Naki Jarrett has brought these up.

01:43:32.000 We have Uber drivers, a guy in Cincinnati, a customer carrying a concealed weapon shoots suspected bank robber, a firefighter off-duty, cops off-duty.

01:43:41.000 There are so many anecdotal stories, okay?

01:43:43.000 So that's obviously untrue.

01:43:44.000 Here's something that people don't tell you.

01:43:45.000 This is a really important statistic and something that's funny about gun control proponents.

01:43:50.000 Guns, according to the CDC, by the way, Obama said the CDC wasn't allowed to conduct any research.

01:43:55.000 They did.

01:43:56.000 Here's what they found.

01:43:57.000 Firearms on a yearly basis.

01:43:59.000 Now, it's hard to measure because most incidents involving a firearm defensively, it's never fired.

01:44:03.000 So sometimes they're not reported properly.

01:44:05.000 That's why there's such a wide swath between 500,000 to over 3 million.

01:44:11.000 Do we have this on the...

01:44:12.000 We don't.

01:44:12.000 We don't?

01:44:13.000 Okay.

01:44:13.000 I'll bring this up on the screen afterwards.

01:44:14.000 Between 500,000 to over 3 million, we'll have the link in the description, per year incidents of firearms used defensively.

01:44:22.000 Okay?

01:44:23.000 That means that at the absolute lowest figure, there are at least as many incidents of defensive uses of firearms as there are bad guys using them against good people.

01:44:34.000 And if you use the highest figure, it's many times more the amount of times a gun is used defensively from the good guy.

01:44:41.000 And this is from the CDC. These are undeniable statistics that people don't want to tell you.

01:44:45.000 So not only anecdotally do you hear about these things all the time, but yes, guns are used defensively in millions of cases.

01:44:52.000 And here's another chart, too.

01:44:53.000 Concealed carry.

01:44:54.000 Now, correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation, but if you look at concealed carry, as it has gone up, violent crime has steadily gone down.

01:45:01.000 Does it mean that that's because of concealed carry?

01:45:03.000 But it does prove, verifiably, that an increase in concealed carry certainly does not result in increased crime.

01:45:03.000 No.

01:45:11.000 The trend would be decreased crime.

01:45:12.000 It's not necessarily because of concealed carry, but certainly...

01:45:14.000 There are more guns now in the population than ever.

01:45:16.000 Than ever.

01:45:17.000 And violent crime is lower and gun crime is lower.

01:45:19.000 Yeah.

01:45:21.000 Okay, last miss.

01:45:22.000 Number five.

01:45:25.000 That gun control laws actually work. 0.71

01:45:29.000 I'll toss this to you.

01:45:30.000 You can email me through louderwithcrowder.com or tweet me at us, Crowder.

01:45:33.000 Can anyone name me any law or proposed laws on the table that would stop mass shootings?

01:45:40.000 That would have stopped this last one. 0.83

01:45:42.000 Anything.

01:45:43.000 A no-fly list?

01:45:45.000 No.

01:45:46.000 Guy wasn't on a no-fly list.

01:45:48.000 Background?

01:45:49.000 Loophole?

01:45:49.000 There was no loophole here.

01:45:52.000 Magazine?

01:45:53.000 I mean, come on, listen, anyone can get a magazine.

01:45:55.000 I'm trying to not go into the fact that obviously criminals will still commit crime, therefore they'll buy guns illegally.

01:46:00.000 That's the most obvious one.

01:46:01.000 But let's assume we've been going through legal avenues right now.

01:46:05.000 Is there any proposed law right here that would have stopped these?

01:46:08.000 Let me give you some stats right here.

01:46:09.000 We have this up from Conservative Review.

01:46:11.000 Fantastic.

01:46:12.000 Gun murders are under decline since the 90s.

01:46:15.000 Anyway, we could give you stats until we're blue in the face.

01:46:18.000 If anyone can name me some gun control legislation that would have stopped this, I'm eager to hear it.

01:46:22.000 There are proposed gun control legislation, pieces of gun control legislation out there.

01:46:22.000 Here's the thing.

01:46:28.000 That have been ignored by the left.

01:46:30.000 Project Exile.

01:46:30.000 We've talked about that.

01:46:31.000 This basically equates to really harsh penalties for felons carrying firearms or carrying a firearm that's not legal.

01:46:41.000 Very serious sentences.

01:46:43.000 We have it up at lottowithcredit.com.

01:46:44.000 I don't have the numbers right in my head.

01:46:45.000 I want to say it was five years and then your second offense was like 20 years.

01:46:48.000 Very, very serious crime.

01:46:50.000 It worked.

01:46:50.000 And what did it do?

01:46:51.000 It was in Virginia.

01:46:52.000 They did this.

01:46:53.000 They basically did some test studies.

01:46:54.000 And they found that this reduced illegal firearms, them being carried by a remarkable percentage.

01:47:00.000 The reason leftists oppose it is they said that it disproportionately targeted minorities.

01:47:04.000 So Project Exile did work.

01:47:06.000 It's something that works without infringing on any law-abiding citizen's right.

01:47:10.000 What's required is to find the illegal gun so a crime is being committed, as opposed to the no-fly list where you could not have even been accused of a crime, have never been involved with terrorism, and simply have your Second Amendment rights stripped of you.

01:47:25.000 Project Exile requires proof that you are currently committing a crime because that gun is illegal.

01:47:30.000 So it infringes on your rights, none whatsoever.

01:47:32.000 Only criminals.

01:47:34.000 And it worked.

01:47:35.000 And the left opposed it.

01:47:37.000 But I want to know what kind of gun control laws proposed.

01:47:40.000 Do we have an outro here?

01:47:41.000 We do.

01:47:41.000 Oh, okay.

01:47:42.000 Tweet me at S. Crowder.

01:47:42.000 Want to roll that?

01:47:43.000 What gun control laws would have stopped this?

01:47:45.000 I still want to know.

01:47:46.000 Crowder's Crowder.

01:47:46.000 This has been a top five list.

01:47:47.000 I think we're going to a break now.

01:47:56.000 You're going to a break.

01:47:57.000 We have like a couple seconds.

01:47:58.000 We do have a couple seconds.

01:47:58.000 All right.

01:47:59.000 We'll see you.

01:47:59.000 Bye.

01:47:59.000 Skag 3 coming up after this.

01:48:01.000 Oh, there you are again. there you are again.

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01:48:42.000 Glad to be back.

01:49:09.000 Glad to have this gentleman on.

01:49:10.000 YouTube.com slash C slash Skag3.

01:49:13.000 But we'll go with Matt today.

01:49:15.000 Matt, thank you for staying with us.

01:49:16.000 Thank you much.

01:49:17.000 We went to our evil corporate overlords.

01:49:19.000 I'm getting loose in the shoulders here.

01:49:20.000 So, okay, historically you said that you were, I guess, sort of free speech, but more fiscally liberal.

01:49:27.000 I remember watching a video where, I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed because you said, I think that the Democratic Party does more for the poor.

01:49:33.000 Something along those lines.

01:49:35.000 I want to know, has that changed?

01:49:37.000 Or has it stayed the same and why?

01:49:40.000 We'll be right back.

01:50:10.000 All right.

01:50:15.000 We are back and we have a gamer here.

01:50:17.000 Well, he's dancing with us at the breaks.

01:50:19.000 I couldn't see him.

01:50:19.000 Dancing with us.

01:50:20.000 I was so involved in my own dance.

01:50:21.000 So, really quickly, I've followed his stuff on YouTube.

01:50:25.000 Very intelligent guy.

01:50:26.000 We disagree on some stuff, but he seems reasonable.

01:50:26.000 We agree on a lot of stuff.

01:50:29.000 He's pretty funny, too.

01:50:30.000 YouTube.com slash C slash Skag3.

01:50:35.000 He's rebranding, so that'll be easier.

01:50:36.000 But I do recommend checking out his channel, and I'm trying to keep track of the right name.

01:50:41.000 So we'll go with Matt right now.

01:50:43.000 Matt, thanks for being with us.

01:50:44.000 Sounds awesome.

01:50:45.000 Pleasure to be here.

01:50:46.000 Sorry about my dancing skills.

01:50:47.000 I haven't done it since high school prom, I think.

01:50:50.000 Maybe the last time.

01:50:51.000 Well, we shouldn't have done it since high school prom, but we do it anyway, so I wouldn't feel guilty about it.

01:50:58.000 Okay, so Mr.

01:50:59.000 Skag. 0.91

01:51:00.000 Some people call you Skaganator, I think.

01:51:02.000 That's a thing.

01:51:03.000 Yeah, sure.

01:51:03.000 Sure.

01:51:05.000 It's a lot of variations.

01:51:07.000 You started out doing gaming stuff, and now you've come out and you've obviously been sort of in support of this freedom of speech movement, anti-social justice left.

01:51:15.000 I don't want to miscategorize you.

01:51:17.000 I know you've, from what I understand, you've represented yourself as pro-free speech, but sort of fiscally maybe more liberal.

01:51:25.000 Am I getting that right?

01:51:26.000 That's where I've been historically.

01:51:29.000 I've been a lifelong Democratic voter, which I guess isn't terribly long.

01:51:32.000 That only goes back to 08.

01:51:34.000 But yeah.

01:51:36.000 08 is long enough.

01:51:37.000 08 is long enough, man.

01:51:39.000 Your damage is done.

01:51:40.000 You might be pleased to know that changed this time around.

01:51:43.000 The times, they are changing.

01:51:45.000 But yeah, I used to be in gaming.

01:51:49.000 The games I played, Call of Duty and stuff, that got a little bit stale.

01:51:52.000 The games got I started dabbling in social commentary stuff.

01:51:57.000 What really got me going last year, the big standout incident that I made a name for myself on was the Nicole Arbor incident where she committed the high crime of making fun of the overweight people. 0.90

01:52:14.000 We call them walruses.

01:52:16.000 This is the term they prefer.

01:52:17.000 It's hard to keep track of the words.

01:52:18.000 Yes, but that's exactly it.

01:52:20.000 Lots of people use that terminology, and yet for some reason this woman is crucified.

01:52:25.000 Right.

01:52:26.000 And so, you know, she has her moments. 0.70

01:52:27.000 She's not my favorite comedian by any stretch.

01:52:30.000 Oh, she's a social justice leftist herself, but I still had to defend her on that issue. 1.00

01:52:34.000 Yeah.

01:52:35.000 And that's when it really, all this stuff kind of really started standing out to me because there was this big movement to, you know, false flag her off YouTube, get her, I don't know, put her to the death penalty, whatever.

01:52:48.000 There was this whole pitchfork nation against her.

01:52:51.000 And that's what really got me... 0.99

01:52:53.000 Those were fat people.

01:52:53.000 Those were just their standard forks.

01:52:57.000 You misinterpreted it.

01:52:59.000 I'm sorry.

01:53:00.000 You knew what you signed up for when you came on here.

01:53:02.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:53:04.000 But that's been...

01:53:04.000 Absolutely.

01:53:06.000 If I could pinpoint any point where I started to...

01:53:09.000 My eyebrows started to raise with my former political friends, it's moments like that where it's like, okay, we can have...

01:53:18.000 Disputes about what's tasteful and what you want to watch for entertainment or you don't, but I'm not going to sit here and start thought policing you.

01:53:25.000 I'm not going to sit here and tell you what you can and can't watch or what can or can't be posted on the internet.

01:53:30.000 Right.

01:53:31.000 Yeah, well, that's a good point, and it's a cultural censorship, too, even if it doesn't happen officially, right?

01:53:36.000 They try and downvote it and downflag it so people like Nicole Arbor, whoever it is, We're not just talking about the First Amendment, right?

01:53:49.000 We're talking about people actively trying to culturally just eliminate voices.

01:53:54.000 And I always get enjoyment out of people who say, Well, we're not talking about the government censoring you.

01:53:59.000 This isn't a First Amendment issue.

01:54:00.000 Well, yeah, but the First Amendment is an articulation of our values.

01:54:03.000 Right.

01:54:04.000 It is the foundation for how we've built our society.

01:54:07.000 So, yeah, there's no feds coming to stop Nicole Arbor or stop me or stop you yet.

01:54:12.000 We'll see.

01:54:13.000 But it's a statement of our cultural values.

01:54:17.000 And do we want to reflect that value or don't we?

01:54:20.000 And I'm very fearful if we stop reflecting that value.

01:54:23.000 Yeah.

01:54:24.000 It's a good point.

01:54:24.000 Yeah, it is a reflection of not only our values in the Constitution, values then, but values that were meant to be timeless.

01:54:32.000 And we've talked about that, and we go obviously right now to the Second Amendment with that issue.

01:54:35.000 We can get into that.

01:54:36.000 So, okay, I want to go back, though.

01:54:37.000 You said this is the first time you're not a registered Democrat.

01:54:40.000 Does that mean you're registered independent?

01:54:42.000 Are you going...

01:54:43.000 I live in Montana.

01:54:47.000 It's open primary.

01:54:49.000 You can vote however you want.

01:54:50.000 I did vote Trump in the Montana primary June 7th, which is my first major Republican vote.

01:55:00.000 It's the first time.

01:55:01.000 And why was that?

01:55:02.000 What made you make that decision? 0.99

01:55:04.000 For now, I want to see the right heads explode.

01:55:07.000 And I want to watch the campaign.

01:55:09.000 It's less of a political endorsement, but who doesn't want to watch the Trump-Hillary debates?

01:55:15.000 And it was over by the time I voted.

01:55:16.000 Right.

01:55:17.000 But who doesn't want to watch the protests in Cleveland at the convention?

01:55:20.000 Who doesn't want to watch the Hillary-Trump debates? 1.00

01:55:23.000 Who doesn't want to watch that political theater? 0.99

01:55:25.000 So right now I'm voting entertainment.

01:55:27.000 Yeah.

01:55:29.000 He's honest about it.

01:55:30.000 He's honest about it.

01:55:31.000 But I will say this.

01:55:32.000 I don't think there is a scenario in which I can vote for Secretary Clinton.

01:55:37.000 I don't think it's going to happen.

01:55:39.000 So for me, it's going to be, do I want to vote with a middle finger to the social justice left and watch their heads explode, or do I just want to abstain?

01:55:48.000 Right.

01:55:49.000 And so that's kind of the decision.

01:55:50.000 I think Trump joins him in a lot of ways.

01:55:52.000 I mean, you're talking about a guy who wants to increase libel laws, a guy who is pro-using whatever bathroom you want and spoke out against people who disagree with it.

01:56:01.000 Like, he's not really a freedom of speech guy.

01:56:02.000 He pisses off the right people, but not necessarily for the right reasons.

01:56:08.000 Well, and he's all over the place.

01:56:09.000 It's hard to say, do you support Trump?

01:56:12.000 Why?

01:56:12.000 On what issue?

01:56:13.000 Well, I mean, he's been for this and against that and for this and against that.

01:56:16.000 It's hard to nail him down on what exactly he would want to do or what exactly he plans to do.

01:56:22.000 Right.

01:56:22.000 So I don't necessarily know what policy I'm voting for by voting for him, necessarily.

01:56:28.000 I just know that he's making the right people mad and I want to watch him be mad.

01:56:32.000 I understand that.

01:56:33.000 Yeah, I'm not a fan, but I've always had to defend him whenever leftists go, well, building a wall is racist.

01:56:38.000 No, listen, I don't like him because, like you said, he's inconsistent and I don't trust him.

01:56:41.000 But building a wall is not racist.

01:56:44.000 Calling Rosie O'Donnell fat is not sexist.

01:56:46.000 The reasons I have a problem with him are not the reasons the left hates him.

01:56:50.000 And isn't that frustrating?

01:56:51.000 I mean, to me, as someone who enjoys watching political theater, and I like watching the debates in the same way people like watching their, you know, whatever Netflix show or things like that, but to me, Trump seems like a candidate you should be able to hit hard and defeat when pressing him on issues.

01:57:08.000 If you nail him down on these inconsistencies in the debate, or if you're a reporter and you ask him the tough questions, he should be fairly easy to expose that way.

01:57:16.000 And what do we have?

01:57:17.000 We're talking about sexism.

01:57:18.000 We're talking about racism.

01:57:19.000 We're talking about these low-hanging fruit that maybe it sticks with some people, but for people who can see past that, I don't know that it does too much.

01:57:29.000 We'll have to go to a break.

01:57:30.000 We'll bring you back.

01:57:31.000 Matt, Skag Something Something, Ladder with Crudder.

01:57:32.000 We'll get it right after this.

01:57:34.000 And now for late night show prep with Seth Meyers.

01:57:54.000 Hello?

01:57:55.000 Hi, Seth.

01:57:56.000 This is Hillary Clinton. 0.66

01:57:57.000 I just wanted to make sure that you got those talking points we sent over.

01:58:02.000 Yep, all set.

01:58:04.000 And now back to your program.

01:58:05.000 Glad to be back.

01:58:31.000 Glad to be back.

01:58:32.000 Glad to have this gentleman on.

01:58:33.000 YouTube.com slash C slash Skag3.

01:58:36.000 But we'll go with Matt today.

01:58:38.000 Matt, thank you for staying with us.

01:58:39.000 Thank you much.

01:58:40.000 We went to our evil corporate overlords.

01:58:42.000 I'm getting loose in the shoulders here.

01:58:43.000 So, okay, historically you said that you were, I guess, sort of free speech, but more fiscally liberal.

01:58:50.000 I remember watching a video where, I'm not going to lie, I was a little disappointed because you said, I think that the Democratic Party does more for the poor, something along those lines.

01:58:58.000 I want to know, has that changed or has it stayed the same and why?

01:59:04.000 Well, you know, I will say that historically, and maybe wrongly or rightly, it seemed to me that the Democratic Party was speaking more to the issues of working people, whether you agree with that or not.

01:59:16.000 And they also spoke more to, you know, I would also like to be an advocate for responsible public investment.

01:59:22.000 I think there are good things that the government can achieve, and there are good things for the government to invest in.

01:59:28.000 And I think historically...

01:59:29.000 Democratic candidates have spoken to that.

01:59:32.000 Well, I shouldn't even say candidates, because what are we talking about here?

01:59:34.000 We're talking about Obama.

01:59:35.000 We're talking about eight years.

01:59:37.000 So, you know, I'm not a policy expert on these things, but that's the way I've leaned.

01:59:43.000 And to me, it's become, with reference to what you were just describing, in that particular video, it's like, yeah, you know, I've leaned this way.

01:59:53.000 But if you're going to put more foundational ideas as the cost to supporting those types of policies, I'm not with you.

02:00:01.000 If we don't agree on free speech, if we don't agree on due process, if we don't agree on a lot of constitutional principles, I don't care about debates about economics or investment or foreign policy if we betray those foundational values.

02:00:15.000 And to me, it seems like it's becoming a choice between those things.

02:00:18.000 I think you're right.

02:00:20.000 Two things there that you pointed out that I think are important.

02:00:23.000 Yeah, I think it has become a choice.

02:00:25.000 I think people need to understand.

02:00:26.000 Because, you know, I've been doing this for a long time on YouTube.

02:00:27.000 And, of course, every single atheist was a liberal who thought the Tea Party was racist.

02:00:31.000 And how dare you?

02:00:33.000 And now a lot of them have come around because they realize the only people who are really in their corner with freedom of speech are conservatives, Christian, atheist, agnostic or not.

02:00:41.000 There is no major contingency of the left today.

02:00:44.000 Who support free speech?

02:00:45.000 They may think so.

02:00:46.000 Like these Bernie people, they think so.

02:00:48.000 They come on our channel and they're so mad.

02:00:50.000 And the reason I ask you, and I think you answered my question, is because I have talked with Gadset about this, I think Sargon about this.

02:00:57.000 You know, economic authoritarianism is still authoritarianism.

02:01:01.000 And if you look at them in their verticals, you know, obviously constitutionalism, conservatism, whatever you want to call it, Has always, regardless of the name you give it, has always leaned in the direction of freedom, whereas socialism, democratic socialism, as though that changes it, big government, has always leaned toward control and security.

02:01:21.000 And so I've always thought it was...

02:01:23.000 I think a lot of people are kind of taking the step.

02:01:25.000 You are not to assume where you are, but I think I've seen some people and talked to them behind the scenes who fancy themselves fiscally liberal going, I just...

02:01:35.000 I don't know if I can reconcile this with my other beliefs, because freedom is freedom.

02:01:40.000 Yeah.

02:01:41.000 Well, there are too many sacred cows on the left, too.

02:01:44.000 And every time there's a debate, you and I might be a certain distance apart when it comes to what we think appropriate tax policy is or what we think appropriate public investment is.

02:01:54.000 Who knows?

02:01:55.000 But when I hear you describe what your philosophy is, I don't assume malice on your part.

02:02:00.000 And I think that's a huge problem right now. 1.00

02:02:02.000 Well, you disagree with me, so that means you're a scumbag. 1.00

02:02:05.000 That means you hate poor people. 1.00

02:02:07.000 That means you hate minorities.

02:02:08.000 That means you hate this.

02:02:09.000 That means you hate that.

02:02:11.000 Not gonna lie, at least three out of the four you just said are true.

02:02:17.000 Well, of the many things that people of your persuasion are persuading me on, maybe you'll get me there, too.

02:02:23.000 Yeah.

02:02:24.000 No, you see what? 1.00

02:02:24.000 The minorities are horrible. 1.00

02:02:26.000 No, I think... 1.00

02:02:27.000 Sorry, go ahead.

02:02:28.000 I was going to say, I'm bummed I missed out on the cultural appropriation, too.

02:02:32.000 If I had known beforehand, I would have got in on that.

02:02:34.000 Well, yeah, you came in on a later segment.

02:02:36.000 This week is Africa.

02:02:37.000 So when you go in, we have to change clothes because sometimes there's really serious guests on and it's a liability.

02:02:44.000 But, yeah, I don't think Ted Cruz is coming back.

02:02:47.000 So, okay, so I understand where you're lining up on that.

02:02:50.000 Let me ask you this.

02:02:51.000 Right now, obviously, a hot topic issue is the Second Amendment.

02:02:54.000 Yeah.

02:02:55.000 Guns.

02:02:55.000 Where are you on this?

02:02:57.000 Well, man, this is really frustrating, and I've spent a few videos, the last couple videos on my channel talking about this, because...

02:03:04.000 As someone who has been kind of on the left as a voter for the last few years, you hear the things that they say, and they talk about common sense regulation and all these things.

02:03:14.000 And to someone who's not necessarily as informed on the issue, like, oh yeah, it makes sense that people shouldn't have machine guns, right?

02:03:19.000 But this is an issue where the more I dig into it, the more it seems clear that there...

02:03:19.000 Right.

02:03:24.000 I hate when issues are this simple, but I really do believe it is people who are informed versus people who are uninformed.

02:03:30.000 Yeah.

02:03:30.000 Yeah, no, I think you're right.

02:03:31.000 I was just talking about this.

02:03:33.000 It is an issue that requires an uninformed voting base who don't know what a semi-automatic is, who don't know what the no-fly list is, and who don't know that an assault weapon doesn't exist, and you can't get a machine gun without a background check.

02:03:47.000 It requires those people in order to be pushed through.

02:03:50.000 Yeah, and when you look into these quote-unquote common sense regulations, the less common sense they make.

02:03:56.000 Like, the common sense regulation right now is, hey, if you're on one of the two lists, you're not going to be able to get a weapon.

02:04:02.000 So we're going to deny you your Second Amendment, right?

02:04:04.000 We're also going to deny you due process, because that's common sense.

02:04:07.000 Yeah.

02:04:07.000 Right.

02:04:07.000 I think it was, what, Trey Gowdy at a House hearing this week, who basically was asking someone testifying...

02:04:14.000 I forget what his title was.

02:04:15.000 Well, you just outed yourself.

02:04:15.000 If he's talking about Trey Gowdy, there's no way he's even...

02:04:18.000 There's not even a shred of Democrat left in him, if his audience thought so.

02:04:22.000 What he said was...

02:04:24.000 Trey Gowdy! 0.98

02:04:26.000 You went to the right of Attila the Hun, my friend. 0.77

02:04:28.000 Go ahead.

02:04:29.000 What he said was really important, though.

02:04:31.000 What he asked her was, can you name another constitutional right that we would take away and then require you to petition the government to return?

02:04:38.000 And of course, that was a question that could not be answered.

02:04:41.000 Now, we might have some debate about is the Second Amendment.

02:04:45.000 You and I probably wouldn't have that debate, but some people might.

02:04:49.000 Right.

02:04:53.000 That's not the position that I want or agree with, but theirs is the position that is consistent with the facts and makes sense.

02:05:03.000 It's the only tenable position for the left to say, I want to ban guns because I don't think the Constitution was right.

02:05:08.000 I think the Founding Fathers are wrong.

02:05:10.000 And let's go through the amendment and get rid of it completely.

02:05:13.000 And that's what the Supreme Court justices did.

02:05:15.000 I talked about that.

02:05:16.000 Again, people see the stuff that's sort of outrageous.

02:05:19.000 But if you watch the show, it's pretty substantive.

02:05:20.000 We talked about that Heller v.

02:05:22.000 D.C. And the rulings against it are just as important as the ultimate total ruling for it, right?

02:05:29.000 Was it five...

02:05:31.000 Four to five, I believe.

02:05:32.000 Five to four.

02:05:32.000 They were saying, no, people don't have...

02:05:34.000 The argument against it wasn't magazine capacity.

02:05:36.000 It wasn't...

02:05:37.000 It was none of that.

02:05:38.000 It was, no, people don't have a fundamental right to own any firearms whatsoever.

02:05:42.000 When it comes down legally, that's the only argument they felt they could make.

02:05:47.000 Yeah.

02:05:47.000 And I have plenty of friends who have made that argument to me this last week because I've been talking about it a lot.

02:05:53.000 And I don't agree and I am nervous that people are so eager to surrender their right to self-defense to the state.

02:05:59.000 Right.

02:06:00.000 And I'd be curious.

02:06:01.000 The one thing that's so interesting to me is like...

02:06:03.000 I am a firearm owner, and I don't shoot them recreationally.

02:06:07.000 I don't hunt.

02:06:07.000 I rarely go target shooting because I just don't want to buy the ammo, that kind of thing.

02:06:10.000 But if someone comes in my home with malicious intent, yeah, they're going to stare down the barrel of that firearm, and rightfully so.

02:06:17.000 And a lot of the argument is, well, have you ever needed it?

02:06:19.000 Well, I've never needed the majority of the safety equipment in my life.

02:06:23.000 I've never been in a car crash that required a seatbelt.

02:06:26.000 I've never been in a burning building that required a fire extinguisher.

02:06:29.000 I've never needed these things, but I'm happy that they're there.

02:06:32.000 And I wouldn't want to surrender that protection to the state because if someone comes in here and I call the cops, I would rather not wait for the cops to get here as fast as they may be.

02:06:42.000 Black Lives Matter.

02:06:43.000 Let's make sure the cops are the only one with guns. 0.95

02:06:45.000 Only one.

02:06:46.000 Only one.

02:06:47.000 It's okay because an impression of a white guy sounded like a black guy. 0.71

02:06:47.000 That was Sean King. 0.71

02:06:51.000 That's one thing.

02:06:52.000 We've talked about that, and I've had Sargonah where we disagree, but I go, okay, I can understand that.

02:06:56.000 It is an entirely untenable position for someone like Sean King or DeRay to say cops are racist.

02:07:01.000 The judicial system is inherently biased and slanted toward white privilege.

02:07:06.000 The military-industrial complex is not to be trusted, and then believe in disarming everyone who's not a part of those institutions.

02:07:13.000 It's just not a tenable position.

02:07:16.000 But like you said, there are people who say, you know what, I trust the government, I trust their authority, ban all guns.

02:07:21.000 I have more respect for that.

02:07:22.000 Kind of like I have more respect for you just saying you're voting entertainment than trying to do the mental gymnastics for Trump.

02:07:27.000 I'm not pretending, yeah.

02:07:29.000 I won't pretend.

02:07:30.000 No, no, it's well worth it.

02:07:31.000 Okay, so let me ask you this.

02:07:32.000 Full disclosure, and I'm not going to try and run you through the ringer.

02:07:35.000 So you voted for Obama. 0.99

02:07:38.000 When the Tea Party came out and there was this protest and these conservatives, because it seemed like your awakening happened a little later, were you on the side of thinking they were racist, they were rednecks, they were dummies? 0.98

02:07:49.000 No, I wouldn't go that far. 0.96

02:07:51.000 But I often wonder, because that's when I was in school.

02:07:54.000 And when I was in college, it wasn't...

02:07:57.000 As crazy as it was now, I often wonder how far away was I from becoming a Trigglypuff or something?

02:08:06.000 Well, I don't know about two dump trucks.

02:08:08.000 I went to a college with, I think there were two people in the college Republicans, and they held a pizza party for their first meeting, so everyone would go, and there was like, you know, maybe 20, 30 people there for that, and then they didn't show up.

02:08:21.000 Nobody showed up the next week for the actual meeting.

02:08:24.000 Sounds like college Republicans.

02:08:24.000 But...

02:08:26.000 Yeah, but as far as the Tea Party question, what I probably saw was the caricature of them, the people holding the signs like, keep your damn government hands off my Medicare and that kind of stuff. 0.95

02:08:37.000 And so I don't think there was ever a time where I treated them seriously necessarily, but I don't remember a time in my life where I thought, yeah, their motivations are bigotry, or their motivations are hatred for people on account of stupid issues X, Y, or Z. Well, that's important. 0.80

02:08:55.000 The reason I ask it, the reason it's important is because it's a chicken or the egg thing where I'm wondering, okay, are people like you, were you there and you learned better, or were you people who inherently were thinking critically and willing to hear the other side?

02:09:08.000 Because I've got to have hope that someone like Janine Garofalo at some point can become like a Skag 3, but I don't think so. 0.99

02:09:17.000 So that's why I asked the question to everyone.

02:09:18.000 No, I'll tell you how my evolution has happened and is happening and possibly will evolve further.

02:09:24.000 And that is because of the assault on the most important value and the most important issue.

02:09:29.000 When I see freedom of speech being eroded, either as a legal issue or as a cultural issue, I start listening to people on the other side.

02:09:37.000 And I think like, no, there's people who have to be thinking in the same way I am that are worried about this.

02:09:40.000 So I find people like you.

02:09:42.000 I find people like Milo.

02:09:43.000 And I start listening to them.

02:09:45.000 And then you talk about All the other issues you care about, X, Y, and Z. And then that'll spark interest in my mind as well.

02:09:52.000 And I'll start thinking, well, I've been on the other side of this historically, but I haven't considered that position.

02:09:57.000 I appreciate that.

02:09:57.000 Oh, thank you.

02:09:58.000 You know, we do try.

02:10:00.000 We can't get liberals to come on the show. 0.99

02:10:02.000 What is it, this week?

02:10:03.000 D.L. Hughley?

02:10:04.000 Ducked?

02:10:05.000 Michael Wood Jr.?

02:10:06.000 It's a real problem.

02:10:08.000 So I'm glad that there are people out there like you who may disagree on some points because we cannot get people to come on here vocally and disagree.

02:10:15.000 They book, and then they leave.

02:10:16.000 They never show up.

02:10:17.000 Well, the problem is my list of disagreements are shrinking.

02:10:20.000 So people keep asking me, like, how are you a liberal?

02:10:22.000 And I'm like, oh, well, I used to have, like, ten reasons.

02:10:24.000 Now there's, like, half a reason, maybe.

02:10:26.000 Yeah.

02:10:27.000 We'll see.

02:10:28.000 We'll see.

02:10:28.000 I don't know.

02:10:29.000 Talk to me.

02:10:30.000 Well, talk to me once Hillary wins and the people are knocking at my door to take care of my firearms. 1.00

02:10:33.000 Oh, you just opened a can of worms.

02:10:35.000 Yeah.

02:10:35.000 You think she's winning?

02:10:36.000 You think it's President Hillary Clinton?

02:10:37.000 I actually don't.

02:10:38.000 If I were a betting man, which I sometimes am, but if I could go to Vegas and put money on it right now, I would put the money on Trump even at even odds.

02:10:46.000 Okay.

02:10:47.000 Yeah, I don't...

02:10:48.000 I think it's going to happen.

02:10:49.000 Well, except he's just been in a death spiral recently.

02:10:52.000 Yeah, but it's still early, and at the end of the day, this is a hate contest.

02:10:56.000 That's why this is so fun.

02:10:57.000 Who do you hate?

02:10:58.000 I mean, we always talk about picking the least of two evils, but this is so much...

02:11:05.000 So far beyond that.

02:11:07.000 It's the most hated candidates of all time.

02:11:09.000 That's so fun.

02:11:10.000 I know, but Republicans saw the number two most hated politician ever, and they ran the number one most hated candidate ever.

02:11:10.000 I'm excited.

02:11:17.000 I don't see how you do the math, but...

02:11:22.000 It will be one hell of a show.

02:11:23.000 I will give you that.

02:11:24.000 Okay, Matt, where's the best place for people to find you before we leave you?

02:11:27.000 Yes, it's my YouTube channel.

02:11:29.000 That is youtube.com slash C slash Skag3. 0.83

02:11:32.000 And is there two G's in Skag or one?

02:11:34.000 Yeah, there's two G's.

02:11:35.000 And then it's on Twitter as well.

02:11:36.000 It's at S-K-A-G-G underscore, your favorite underscore, three. 0.98

02:11:41.000 Yes, my favorite underscore.

02:11:42.000 And his email address is at Hotmail.

02:11:44.000 And he does the AOL Messenger.

02:11:46.000 Oh! 0.60

02:11:47.000 Oh, we're going out to Sonic.

02:11:48.000 You've got to be.

02:11:49.000 We were with Sonic, people.

02:11:50.000 So, okay.

02:11:50.000 Well, Matt, thank you so much, but we'll have to have you back and just find something you hate me on and disagree with, and then we can duke it out and have, like, a Bill O'Reilly freakout moment.

02:11:58.000 Sounds awesome.

02:11:59.000 Slash C slash Skag 2Gs3, Lotto with Crowder.

02:12:03.000 Stay tuned for more hate speech?

02:12:05.000 Probably, probably hate speech.

02:12:07.000 Hate speech.

02:12:08.000 Outdoor hunting and defense accessories.

02:12:24.000 How can I help you?

02:12:26.000 Hi, this is Neil Steinberg of the Chicago Sun-Times, and I was hoping to visit your establishment and purchase a semi-automatic assault rifle. 1.00

02:12:36.000 Neil, piece of shit, Steinberg! 1.00

02:12:38.000 That's what we call you! 1.00

02:12:39.000 I know who you are, I've heard all about you!

02:12:41.000 Uh...

02:12:42.000 That's not my middle name.

02:12:43.000 It is around here.

02:12:45.000 I don't think that's a fair accusation at all.

02:12:47.000 You're the guy who tried to buy an AR-15 when you were an alcoholic and you beat your wife. 1.00

02:12:52.000 Yeah, you're a piece of shit Steinberg. 1.00

02:12:53.000 I would appreciate it if you don't. 1.00

02:12:55.000 Matter of fact, I got your picture here on the wall next to a piece of actual human shit for reference just in case anybody forgot. 0.97

02:13:07.000 That just seems like overkill. 0.99

02:13:10.000 It's a big one. 1.00

02:13:12.000 It's a big old piece of shit. 1.00

02:13:14.000 We'll be right back. 1.00

02:13:44.000 Glad to be back with you.

02:13:57.000 I just broke the law.

02:13:59.000 Just kidding.

02:14:00.000 I have one, too.

02:14:01.000 No, these aren't adult beverages.

02:14:02.000 We would never do that.

02:14:03.000 They're filled with water.

02:14:03.000 Root beer.

02:14:04.000 We're about to shoot another video that involves root beer.

02:14:04.000 They're props.

02:14:07.000 Glad to be with you.

02:14:08.000 Thanks so much to Ryan Skagg.

02:14:10.000 Is there an underscore?

02:14:11.000 Just Skagg?

02:14:11.000 Underscore three.

02:14:12.000 Skagg underscore three.

02:14:13.000 At Skagg underscore three.

02:14:14.000 We're wrapping up this show for you tonight.

02:14:16.000 Hey, listen.

02:14:16.000 Let me tell you something.

02:14:18.000 Michael Woods Jr.

02:14:19.000 is a...

02:14:19.000 Listen, I try to be nice with a guy.

02:14:21.000 He's a coward. 1.00

02:14:21.000 He obviously has no intent. 1.00

02:14:23.000 Intention of debating.

02:14:24.000 Piers Morgan has said that he called me a little twerp and said he will debate me anytime.

02:14:29.000 That's harsh.

02:14:30.000 So, Piers Morgan, your challenge, gratefully accepted.

02:14:34.000 And as far as terms, name him.

02:14:38.000 My show.

02:14:39.000 I don't know if he still has a show.

02:14:41.000 My show.

02:14:42.000 Your show.

02:14:43.000 We can do it on here with breaks, live on radio.

02:14:45.000 We can do it, and we've done this with Harrison Greenbaum or a few people who demanded this.

02:14:50.000 We can pre-tape it.

02:14:52.000 No breaks.

02:14:53.000 No time limits.

02:14:54.000 No talking points.

02:14:56.000 Period.

02:14:57.000 Whatever you want to do.

02:14:59.000 So long as it doesn't end up costing you money and making you money with a GoFundMe or some kind of extravagant fee.

02:15:06.000 We can do this thing for free.

02:15:07.000 We can do it over Skype.

02:15:08.000 We can do it any way you want it.

02:15:12.000 That's the way you need it.

02:15:14.000 That's the way.

02:15:15.000 Morgan needs it in a way that he probably doesn't want it, let's be honest.

02:15:19.000 So, yeah, there you go.

02:15:20.000 Pierce Morgan, he's put it out there.

02:15:21.000 Michael Woods Jr., put it out there.

02:15:22.000 D.L. Hughley.

02:15:24.000 Who do we have now?

02:15:24.000 D.L. Hughley.

02:15:26.000 Duck.

02:15:27.000 I can't tell if he's a Dodger or just a busy guy.

02:15:29.000 Or just an unreliable guy.

02:15:31.000 Yeah, a little unorganized.

02:15:32.000 Jill Sobiel from Bernie Sanders' campaign.

02:15:35.000 Yep.

02:15:35.000 Duck.

02:15:36.000 Michael Woods Jr., of course, Duck.

02:15:39.000 Gosh.

02:15:41.000 There's been a handful of them over the last year and a half.

02:15:44.000 There's been a lot.

02:15:45.000 It's really hard to do.

02:15:47.000 We had Phil Advise on a while back, the Phil Advise show.

02:15:51.000 We had Zach Ford.

02:15:54.000 Zach Ford?

02:15:56.000 It's been hard.

02:15:57.000 It's hard to get them on the show.

02:15:58.000 We really do.

02:15:58.000 We try.

02:15:59.000 So I'm just letting you know.

02:16:01.000 So there's record here.

02:16:02.000 I'm not changing the terms.

02:16:04.000 I'm not going to set up a Patreon for free anywhere.

02:16:09.000 Pierce Morgan.

02:16:11.000 Okay?

02:16:11.000 And we'll try and keep it polite.

02:16:13.000 You know, I didn't call you a twerp.

02:16:16.000 Hey, by the way, before we go, I have this up here for those listening terrestrially.

02:16:20.000 YouTube, I love this, YouTube Spotlight.

02:16:22.000 This is the official YouTube channel.

02:16:24.000 Put up a video, hashtag proud to be, come together to celebrate identity.

02:16:27.000 And it was all about gender identity. 0.63

02:16:29.000 So, of course, YouTube puts this on the front of their homepage and some weird stuff like Tim Burton Bizarre Train.

02:16:35.000 It gets really weird.

02:16:36.000 The dark corner of the internet is getting closer.

02:16:38.000 Yeah.

02:16:38.000 It's invading territory.

02:16:39.000 I didn't make a plan on it.

02:16:40.000 Yes.

02:16:41.000 Invading.

02:16:41.000 Exactly.

02:16:42.000 At all.

02:16:43.000 It's like the Babadook.

02:16:45.000 Yeah, it's like when that weird guy comes to your house.

02:16:47.000 It's like a Tim Burton shadow over your bed with a nightlight.

02:16:50.000 It's just going to be you.

02:16:51.000 And you're like, you bring your weird friend over.

02:16:53.000 I'm like, he's in my house now. 1.00

02:16:54.000 He raped me. 1.00

02:16:55.000 I gotta shoot him. 1.00

02:16:57.000 That's YouTube. 1.00

02:16:58.000 After the rape.

02:16:59.000 And this stuff.

02:17:00.000 So this we have.

02:17:01.000 Here's what's so funny, though. 0.97

02:17:03.000 Hold on, bring that back up, not gay, Jared. 1.00

02:17:05.000 This would never have happened two years ago.

02:17:07.000 Almost 8 million views, 224,000 dislikes, 270,000 likes.

02:17:12.000 Two years ago, no one would have had the nerve to downvote an LGBTQ. And that's not the only one. 0.99

02:17:18.000 That's one of several this week that we've spotted.

02:17:20.000 Yes.

02:17:21.000 Same trend.

02:17:22.000 I've talked about this.

02:17:23.000 Go back to this show a year and a half ago where I said the pendulum has to swing the other way.

02:17:27.000 Well, guess what?

02:17:28.000 It's happening.

02:17:29.000 And like I've said, the whole LGBTQAIP have shortchanged the gay and the lesbians. 1.00

02:17:37.000 Because now they've tacked on to the movement and people are rejecting it as a whole.

02:17:41.000 They're just tired of all of it.

02:17:43.000 These people are unironically claiming to be fluid, pansexual, genderqueers. 0.63

02:17:47.000 And they're not joking.

02:17:48.000 And YouTube is featuring this.

02:17:50.000 The problem is they are – I spoke with someone at YouTube who never knew anyone.

02:17:53.000 Didn't know anyone who owned a firearm ever in her life.

02:17:56.000 And couldn't imagine a reason someone would.

02:17:58.000 Like that guy at Sky News.

02:17:59.000 California, right?

02:18:00.000 Yeah.

02:18:01.000 Why would you ever need a firearm?

02:18:02.000 In your studio.

02:18:05.000 I'm going to go have relations in my...

02:18:10.000 That's going to be a gif.

02:18:14.000 Get to it rolling.

02:18:15.000 Anyway, so there's a major shift here, and that's important.

02:18:19.000 That's good to know.

02:18:19.000 So whether you like Trump or don't like Donald Trump, I know it's been a civil war in the Republican Party.

02:18:24.000 The media is awful.

02:18:25.000 It's easy to get depressed.

02:18:27.000 Here's your silver lining.

02:18:29.000 Younger millennials are starting to reject the cultural Marxism.

02:18:32.000 There is a winning argument there.

02:18:34.000 Here's one thing that's important.

02:18:36.000 There's one sort of through line here.

02:18:37.000 Like with the Sky News guy, why did I stay on the automatic weapons?

02:18:41.000 Because I don't think it's a coincidence.

02:18:43.000 I don't think it's an error that every single media outlet I watch repeats automatic weapons and then uses it to bring on guests who support legislation with semi-automatic weapons.

02:18:51.000 I don't think it's an accident.

02:18:52.000 At a certain point, It can't just be ignorance because they have to have someone, Jared will pass me a fact sheet if I'm wrong, go, oh, you know what, you were wrong about that and we correct it.

02:18:59.000 I can't imagine people at CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, Sky News, BBC don't know that.

02:19:06.000 Just like with the Islam thing, with the talk Islam thing, it seems like I'm being harsh when they say, oh, no, no, Muhammad was peaceful to all the innocent.

02:19:14.000 There are no innocent non-Muslims. 1.00

02:19:16.000 You need to define those terms first.

02:19:19.000 So if it seems like, and this is important for everyone out there listening, because I know I'm not a super skilled debater.

02:19:24.000 I don't consider myself to be even like a Ben Shapiro or a Michael Medved or a Christopher Hitchens.

02:19:29.000 I really don't.

02:19:30.000 And I appreciate the compliments from people.

02:19:32.000 Here's the deal.

02:19:34.000 Don't go down the rabbit trail.

02:19:36.000 The Sky News thing, we talked about it.

02:19:37.000 We went from automatic weapons to assault rifles, which was undefined, to why do you need a gun, sir, to why don't you support the no-fly list, to hope you have a safety latch on your firearm.

02:19:48.000 What the hell is a safety latch?

02:19:49.000 I didn't have one.

02:19:50.000 By the way, that's one thing I will lie about.

02:19:52.000 Jerry will tell you all the time.

02:19:53.000 I always lie about my firearms, just so you know.

02:19:55.000 Why?

02:19:56.000 Nobody out there will ever actually know how many I have, what I carry, or where I carry it.

02:20:01.000 There's a 9 out of 10 chance if I say... 0.99

02:20:03.000 But it is up your butt. 0.99

02:20:04.000 Well, there's a good chance. 0.99

02:20:05.000 There's a 9 out of 10 chance if I say, hey, I've got a firearm on my hip, it's actually somewhere else.

02:20:09.000 If I say it's a 9, it's probably a 38.

02:20:11.000 You never know.

02:20:12.000 So, full disclosure on that one, the point remains the same.

02:20:15.000 Do not let them get you off on that rabbit trail.

02:20:18.000 If you know...

02:20:19.000 Because then you're arguing at a point where you've given them an advantage, they're lying, and they're still going to pivot, and they're going to mislead you anyway.

02:20:25.000 Stay on the point.

02:20:26.000 No, no, no.

02:20:26.000 Before we move on, we are not talking about automatic weapons.

02:20:29.000 No, no, no.

02:20:30.000 Before we move on, I need to point out that there are no innocent non-Muslims. 0.95

02:20:34.000 This is what you're saying.

02:20:35.000 And it's not for them, because they want to continue the lie.

02:20:38.000 It's for the people listening to you.

02:20:40.000 You'd be amazed how many people don't know this.

02:20:42.000 The emails we get from people going, I didn't know the difference between an automatic or a semi.

02:20:45.000 I didn't know this about Islam.

02:20:48.000 Do not feel that you have to go in on their terms if you take nothing else away.

02:20:53.000 And we have to go.

02:20:54.000 I'll see you next week.

02:20:55.000 Look forward to your emails.

02:20:56.000 Hope we can help.

Louder with Crowder - June 24, 2016

#80 BLACKFACE MAYBE?! Andrew Klavan, Skagg3 and TalkIslam Rebuttal! | Louder With Crowder

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