On this week's episode of Not Gay Jarred, we have Dinesh D'Souza on the show, we discuss the Milwaukee police shooting of Sylville Smith, we talk about the Amy Schumer rape accusation and why Larry Wilmore thinks his show is canceled, and we discuss this week in social justice outrage.
00:01:17.000A lot of people were saying when we tweeted this out, do you actually have Dinesh D'Souza on or is it just you doing an impression of Dinesh D'Souza?
00:01:24.000To you, I said, I don't know what you're talking about, but Dinesh D'Souza is on this program.
00:01:30.000Some people are saying, who screens your guest?
00:01:31.000Listen, I get that Joey, he's like internet sort of jackass stuff to pull some weird pranks, but he's also come out of the closet as more conservative, has faced some backlash.
00:03:28.000Causation does not equal correlation, regardless of how many CVS's get burned down.
00:03:34.000So this was going around, and CNN, God bless them, the beacon of journalistic integrity that they are, they ran a segment from the perpetrator slash victim's sister.
00:09:15.000I do not envy black police officers in the United States today.
00:09:19.000In Detroit, where my dad used to live, the Percheronis, their dad was a police officer in Detroit.
00:09:22.000He said, man, black police officers in the city, they had to take a far route to their house because they couldn't be tracked.
00:09:29.000They had to be extra careful because they were seen as traitors.
00:09:32.000So this officer, I don't know how many of you have heard of this, you certainly didn't hear about it through the media when it broke, was black who shot him.
00:10:12.000It's all worth watching when he's more subdued.
00:10:15.000But here's something that he said that I think really resonated with people and enraged some.
00:10:19.000The police use of force serves as an igniter, there's no doubt, but to an already volatile situation, a volatile mix of urban pathologies, failed urban policy that exacerbates Inescapable poverty, failing public schools, inadequate parenting, father absent homes.
00:10:43.000We all know when fathers are not around to shape the behavior of young boys, they oftentimes grow up to be unmanageable misfits that the police have to deal with in an aggressive fashion.
00:10:55.000Pathologies like lifestyle choices is questionable.
00:11:00.000And that's the recap of everything you just talked about.
00:11:46.000break we'll talk about it more and uh i've got an airline for a story for you after the break that jared demand i tell carol costello for cnn it has been brought to our attention that there were some mild but important inaccuracies in last night's newscast that we need
00:12:16.000Firstly, the video that we showed you from Milwaukee of the victim's sister calling for peace was actually selectively edited to cover up the fact that she was calling for violence.
00:12:27.000Other corrections to be made from last night's broadcast.
00:12:51.000Finally, it is my legal obligation to inform you that myself, as well as my colleague, Anderson Cooper, have been legally barred from referring to ourselves as actual journalists.
00:13:01.000Stay tuned for this night's broadcast after the break.
00:15:47.000We're going to have Dinesh D'Souza on after the break, and we'll get back into more of it.
00:15:50.000When you want to think of industries that you can't stand, think of the ones that either have the most government intervention or have been bailed out.
00:22:16.000Listen, everybody at Squirrel Suiticles is glad to see the Hopper, is alive and well and has returned, and at worst is a worthy adversary.
00:22:25.000But for those of you voting for them, who think they're getting some sort of a new kind of candidate with integrity, you'll be sorely disappointed.
00:22:34.000Do you expect integrity from the world's greatest noodle thief?
00:24:50.000And full disclosure to people listening, Dinesh and I have worked on side projects before, so people are going, why don't you have Dinesh on?
00:24:54.000And I'm like, well, he's really busy and he's above the show, so let's just not drag him through it.
00:25:01.000But your film and the book is doing really well.
00:25:04.000Obviously, you had kind of Obama's America before.
00:25:08.000Was the goal deliberately to try and affect the election or just to educate people?
00:25:13.000Well, the goal is to educate people in an election year, so I would say there's some of both.
00:25:21.000The Obama film that I did four years ago was just about one man.
00:25:24.000It was just about the secret history of Obama because so little was known about him.
00:27:15.000He's gone after me for a long time and then provided no recourse, so we did a parody of it, and we've done parodies kind of even on this show with it.
00:27:23.000I remember the first thing he put up, he goes, your own audience thought you lost!
00:27:27.000Right afterwards, he puts up a Twitter poll, and that flipped not long after.
00:27:32.000Because you have those initial people liking and downvoting things before they've watched it.
00:27:37.000It's kind of a silliness, because obviously, I mean, I have a following that is many times the size of his, so I could easily overwhelm him in any of those sorts of polls.
00:27:46.000But I was thinking really just more of the actual debate itself, where, you know, he'd say things like, you know...
00:27:52.000You say that blacks were better off under slavery.
00:27:56.000But what I say is what Muhammad Ali said.
00:27:58.000You know, Ali, of course, when he came back from the rumble in the jungle, made the famous remark someone asked him, hey, champ, what do you think of Africa?
00:28:05.000And he goes, thank God my granddaddy got on that boat.
00:28:08.000But behind the sort of pungent remark, Ali was making a serious point, which is that, look, his great-great-great-grandfather was worse off But he, Muhammad Ali, is better off for living in America.
00:28:18.000He wouldn't be the world champion if he had been born probably in some other place like Afghanistan.
00:28:23.000So he's making an obvious point that the descendants of slavery are lucky to be living in the orbit of Western freedom.
00:28:31.000So I'd make a point like this, and Cenk would start laughing up Rory and say, there you go, that's just what I said.
00:28:43.000It's a kind of intellectual thuggery, and what I don't know is if he's a sophisticated man who's putting on an act, or if he actually is what he presents himself to be, which would of course be far worse.
00:29:04.000And I say this respectfully because, like you said, you've been with people who are intellectual heavyweights, and I think you would probably agree, win some, lose some.
00:29:11.000You've had better nights and worse nights.
00:29:13.000But I've always known you to maintain good relationships, as you've said.
00:29:16.000In this case, the technique is different, and I want to get into because you've sort of bridged more traditional media with new media better than a lot of people.
00:29:24.000You debate, and I think a lot of people you've debated, they're arguing to try and convince the audience of their argument.
00:29:31.000People like Cenk, and this is sort of generational, this new generation of far leftists, they use the audience to try and intimidate their opposition.
00:29:50.000But in any event, every time Cenk would say something, including the most pedestrian statements, like he would mention George Bush, this audience would then mechanically jump up and down and start shouting and applauding.
00:30:00.000So almost like Cenk was controlling them through a kind of device of some sort.
00:30:05.000It was unbelievably frightening because these are young people who are in a formative stage of life, and you think there would be some intellectual openness, some curiosity, that their idealism would have some search quality to it.
00:30:17.000But no, these appear to be just sort of...
00:30:20.000You know, either paid robots or just mechanized robots.
00:30:24.000And so you got a sense of what, you know, when you think of the mass movements of the 20th century, people cheering for Castro or cheering for Stalin, this sort of thing, this mass phenomenon, I got a little glimpse of it in Politicon that day.
00:30:51.000It was just more that there was a certain kind of intellectual unwillingness to...
00:30:56.000He'd say something like, you know, well, as you know, Dinesh, all the Dixiecrats in the Democratic Party then became Republicans.
00:31:03.000And I would say, well, I'm familiar with the case of Strom Thurmond, but can you name a second case?
00:31:07.000Now, obviously he couldn't, but he would say something like, there you go again, using your good old debating tactics.
00:31:13.000Now, of course, we're in a debate, so you think debating tactics would kind of be, if anywhere, that they'd be legitimate, it would be there.
00:31:18.000But this unwillingness to even, you know, entertain a counter argument, I just got the sense that I was debating a wall.
00:31:29.000Because he was incredibly malicious and personal.
00:31:32.000Yeah, he was cordial, but he wasn't friendly.
00:31:37.000And by the way, just by way of comparison, if I look at the whole range of the atheists, for example, Hitchens and I were genuinely friends.
00:31:45.000I mean, we would have a pizza after the debate.
00:31:48.000Now, there are other guys I've debated, like Daniel Dennett, you know, more pompous and so on.
00:31:52.000And so Dennett was the kind of guy who kind of felt like, outside the debate, he should be cordial but not friendly.
00:32:33.000In other words, I would come back and say things like, okay, look, I did exceed the campaign finance law, but justice isn't a matter of did you do it, but it's also a matter of does the penalty fit the crime?
00:32:43.000The other guys who did the same thing get the same penalty.
00:32:46.000So I maintain that no person in American history has ever been locked up for doing what I did.
00:32:53.000So a normal person now on the other side would go, wow, if we're claiming that this is progressive justice, that's a problem.
00:32:59.000I need to find at least some other cases where other guys got the same penalty.
00:33:03.000Otherwise, Dinesh has in fact been railroaded.
00:33:06.000I never got the sense with Cenk that even after the debate, he would make such an inquiry.
00:33:10.000This is a kind of a guy, I mean, he almost defines closed-mindedness in a way that I've not encountered before.
00:33:30.000Grant sweeping off the Velociraptor clause, only to take a lot of digging to get to the center of chinks.
00:33:35.000So I ask you that because, is it true there are no cases?
00:33:40.000What would they say are cases similar to yours, or is there nothing?
00:33:43.000Because I did look into it specifically comparable to yours, and I didn't find anything, but that doesn't mean something that...
00:33:48.000And we know this because we search for them.
00:33:51.000I mean, I have a legal team that looked for them because when you go before a judge, you have to be prepared.
00:33:55.000The government looked really hard because they wanted to tell the judge, look, there are all these cases where these guys have gotten, but in fact, all the cases that they came up with involved corruption.
00:34:05.000In other words, someone is trying to buy an appointment or someone is trying to get a favor through a lawmaker.
00:34:11.000In my case, I didn't even, the candidate didn't even know.
00:34:13.000So there was no corruption involved or even alleged.
00:34:18.000And that's what makes this case particularly interesting.
00:34:21.000I think it will – it's going to go down in campaign finance history as a kind of a blip, a very interesting case that people will look at and go, hmm, what was that all about?
00:34:29.000Well, people either have to say either he's the dumbest criminal in history who received no benefit whatsoever or it's just something that's happened all the time.
00:34:37.000And like you said, they've railroaded him.
00:34:39.000And I think – You've just touched on something.
00:34:41.000I've talked about this with the Second Amendment, you know, the famous Heller case.
00:34:44.000The argument that loses, that's presented, is equally important, or the opposition argument.
00:34:49.000If there were a case, like you're saying, it would be in their best interest to say, well, here you go, here's a directly comparable case, open and shut.
00:34:56.000The fact that they weren't able to was very telling.
00:35:12.000You've been in the academic realm, you've been in the legal realm.
00:35:15.000And then this new social media realm, which you see with people like Cenk.
00:35:19.000The good side is anyone can have a voice.
00:35:22.000The bad part of that is that you have a lot of hacks who can still develop these huge followings just through dirt slinging.
00:35:28.000So does that concern you, the way it's shifting, bridging that gap?
00:35:32.000Do you think that's kind of just a small trend, a small blip, or do you think it could be dangerous?
00:35:38.000Well, I think that you're quite right, Stephen, that it could be a real benefit to democracy that we've got this kind of open channel and that the kind of arguments that were previously confined to the Oxford Debating Society or PBS are now accessible to people and people can not only listen, they can participate.
00:35:58.000And what I try to do is bridge the gap between academia and sort of popular discourse by speaking in a very conversational way.
00:36:07.000And I do this in the movie and in the book.
00:36:09.000So, for example, in Hillary's America, I make this claim.
00:36:37.000So this is actually the way that I think public discourse should happen.
00:36:41.000It should happen by asserting and counter-asserting claims, by marshalling evidence, by making it accessible to people.
00:36:49.000And again, I'm not saying that there's no one on the progressive side who does that, because I think there probably are.
00:36:54.000Interestingly, with this movie and book, the left has not put anyone of any caliber up against us who's been able to seriously challenge, let alone refute, A single claim in the book or the movie.
00:37:07.000I think they attack you more on style, kind of like you're saying you bridge the gap, and they're going, well, he's a former intellectual who's become pedestrian, but like you said, it's making this accessible to people, and if anyone has read your books, frankly, my parents made me read letters to a young Christian, and being the young comedian, smart-ass that I was, I was like, this is kind of dry.
00:40:06.000I knew nothing about making movies four years ago when I undertook 2016, but I did know that Christian and conservative movies tend to be sort of subpar and that people feel a sense of duty.
00:40:18.000Now, I don't want people to go to support my movie.
00:40:20.000I want people to go to be entertained and to learn a bunch of stuff and to come up moved and inspired and fired up.
00:40:25.000And so I wanted to make that type of a movie.
00:40:28.000Now, 2016 is that type of a movie, but it's also a simpler movie.
00:40:32.000It's the kind of movie that you could have shot on a handheld, a very nice handheld camera.
00:40:36.000But now that we're doing recreations of history and recreations of politics, we do them at a very sophisticated level.
00:40:43.000So, for example, the confinement center prison scenes in this movie, there are people who thought I actually shot them in prison.
00:40:49.000I couldn't because actually my judge issued an order that I can't film my confinement, I can't film my teaching of English to immigrants, and I can't film my psychiatric counseling, which I'm sure you, Stephen, would have loved to see, the re-education of Dinesh D'Souza.
00:41:04.000I would also want to get the name of your doctor.
00:41:14.000Well, it's one thing to have, obviously, to seek help on your own.
00:41:18.000It's another to have a psychiatric evaluation and rehabilitation mandated, and then the end result isn't the opinion they want, maybe.
00:41:26.000And they go, well, listen, the guy's still conservative.
00:41:29.000This is a scary thing about guys like Cenk is that, you know, generally I would feel that with a goodwill guy on the other side, like, I have no desire to lock up Michael Moore or ruin him financially or subject him to psychiatric.
00:42:22.000Since that is as open and unedited as could possibly be, an influx of new fans from that because they just go, all right, I haven't seen this before.
00:42:32.000One is that I noticed that an influx of new fans, a lot of younger people, which wouldn't normally have probably come across my work.
00:42:39.000The other thing is I went on the Young Turks channel and I began to look at the feedback on Cenk's site.
00:42:45.000Now, while the feedback on my site is 99% positive, on Cenk's site it was running about 50-50.
00:42:51.000And a lot of people were like, Cenk, I thought you were a reasonable guy, but to see you go on like an intellectual goon at this debate, I was a little bit embarrassed for you and embarrassed for myself for being your fan.
00:43:02.000And so I was kind of interested to see this kind of stuff on Cenk's own site.
00:43:06.000And I'm sure Cenk was, you know, thinking, I mean, I don't know what Cenk thinks, but I thought it was significant that even on the young Turk side, you probably have some young people who are more intellectually open-minded than their hosts.
00:43:19.000Well, I used to get that a lot because, as you know, I've been on YouTube for years and I was the only one there.
00:43:32.000Even if they're an atheist, even if they would completely disagree with, for example, your debate with Hitchens...
00:43:37.000They've grown up a little bit and they've recognized, you know what, I thought Cenk was this anti-corporate, not just Cenk, I don't want to doggy pile on him, but a lot of leftists who've presented themselves as these anti-establishment, anti-authoritarians, who've ironically become the man.
00:43:51.000And you're definitely seeing an exodus, not massive, but it's noticeable.
00:43:56.000And does that give you hope in kind of this area of a very cracked conservative movement with Trump and never-Trump?
00:44:04.000Well, on the left, you've seen these sites like Gawker and Daily Beast and Mediaite and so on.
00:44:11.000And you've got these guys, and many of them are, you know, two years out of college, and they don't know anything.
00:44:17.000So they'll say things to me like, Dinesh, have you ever heard of the Nixon Southern strategy?
00:44:25.000I've written extensively about these things.
00:44:27.000I wrote a 2,000-page book called The End of Racism.
00:44:30.000I'm very familiar with all these things.
00:44:32.000But they have this sort of, you know, idiot way of lecturing me about things that I'm, you know, sort of everything that they know on the topic was my starting point 20 years ago.
00:44:43.000I don't quite know what to make of this.
00:45:03.000So, you know, I'd love to have real debates about these things, like the big switch and so on, but the quality of the debate, I mean, it throws me back to when I was 20 and I looked up to people like Irving Kristol, Bill Buckley, Solzhenitsyn, Hayek, Milton Friedman, and I realized that those guys were writing in small magazines and in different forums, and the world is different now, but it is pathetic to see the lowering of the intellectual lowering that has happened between then and now.
00:45:29.000I think you're smart to say, I assume that the audience knows nothing, but is not an idiot.
00:45:34.000We've had that, we've run into that a lot with Second Amendment issues, where we talk, we assume, right, sort of like a tree.
00:45:39.000Okay, there's a branch, semi-automatic, then you get to assault weapons, clips versus magazines, and then you realize you're still at the trunk.
00:45:45.000They don't know what semi-automatic means.
00:52:31.000So, this is important why I'm giving you all these facets.
00:52:33.000He said, hey, I know the cops aren't always helpful and that rapists don't get convicted, but they can't do anything if you've never even gone to the cops.
00:52:43.000He said they can't help if you don't bother going to the police at all.
00:52:46.000Why aren't the rape kits being tested?
00:52:48.000You need to come forward and go to the cops and convict this person.
00:53:13.000When you look at these sites or these people who have millions of followers and their retweets, their likes are not proportional, you start to see a shift in culture.
00:53:21.000Amy Schumer, a comedian who's made her career off of, set your stopwatch, I'm a slut!
00:54:04.000But they can't do anything if you don't go to them.
00:54:06.000She is mad that somebody, a man, is trying to prevent more rapes.
00:54:11.000Kurt Mesker is trying to prevent more rapes.
00:54:13.000That's why I want to prevent more rapes.
00:54:14.000If this guy is going around raping everybody in the Upper West Side, or more so the Trendy Village, I don't know where UCB is in New York City anymore, guess what?
00:54:23.000You need to come forward and get that guy convicted so he doesn't go and rape somebody else.
00:54:43.000You don't care about women who could be raped, who could be future victims.
00:54:47.000Amy Schumer, self-professed feminist, strong feminist who also literally wants to take your guns away up there with her Uncle Chuck, is saying, I am so against somebody believing in due process and thinking that you should go to the police if you're raped.
00:57:23.000Whereas a lot of comedians who picture themselves as introspective and sort of alternative comics, they can't tie their shoelaces without antidepressants.
00:57:54.000But just like we might have Chad with AIDS on later when we talk about AIDS and people just saying, let's stop stigmatizing it.
00:58:00.000No, when you don't acknowledge the statistics, when you make up statistics to try and push an agenda, you belittle people who are actually suffering from AIDS. When you say that one in four women are raped, which is entirely false, and when you fire people and say, we find this to be wildly offensive and abhorrent, this man has, without any kind of evidence, and providing the person no recourse, You are absolutely belittling rape.
00:58:21.000Not only are you allowing people to get away with a free pass.
00:58:26.000The culture is the social media outrage culture where it is considered to be just as productive to create a hashtag or to come forward and just say I've been raped with no legal process.
00:59:02.000And these people on the rape side, unlike the Facebook side of censorship, which is they have the right to do it, but they're lying about it.
00:59:08.000On the rape side, people like Amy Schumer...
00:59:11.000Are saying, well, going on Twitter is just as valid a reaction.
00:59:15.000It's even more valid because we're raising awareness.
00:59:18.000Oh, you get away with everything under that umbrella, right?
01:01:00.000Okay, so I was thinking for sure that the first thing I should do is, you know, go to the authorities and file the proper paperwork to press charges.
01:02:23.000She joined in on a meme, and she said, this is how I, for those listening terrestrially, she said, this is how I'm going to do my groceries from now on.
01:07:42.000The premise of the show is this guy is coming into this outdoor magazine, sort of, you know, wildlife, outdoor, hiking mountain man magazine, and a bunch of millennials work there, and they're part of the digital age, and they're overly sensitive.
01:07:55.000So the whole show is like the buddy cop thing.
01:07:57.000Wisecracking black guy, old white guy with a revolver who does things by the book.
01:08:01.000Well, this is freewheeling mountain man from the previous generation and then a bunch of mealy-mouthed, overly sensitive millennials.
01:10:24.000And tell these women to go to the police, we know that they'll do nothing more than relegate themselves to hashtags and Snapchat, which is entirely ineffective, allowing us to continue our stranglehold.
01:11:29.000But nothing as controversial, even with the stunts he's pulled, as apparently coming out of the closet as really just a non-liberal, you know him on youtube.com slash Joey Salads.
01:12:13.000So no shocker there, but more recently you've been...
01:12:16.000Doing videos that if they don't have a right-wing bent, they certainly lean that way.
01:12:21.000And you were talking about that, that the reaction has been somewhat surprising.
01:12:26.000I mean, I'm not really surprised of the reaction.
01:12:29.000I mean, we know how many of these liberals act.
01:12:33.000But, I mean, in my videos, I try not to make them like, I'm making this video and I'm a conservative and I'm going to show you what to think, the conservative point of view.
01:12:55.000And I did it twice because the first time, for those who don't know, I dressed up as a transgender woman and went in the girls' bathroom and women freaked out.
01:13:05.000And because the backlash I got was, you're not really transgender, you're not really transgender.
01:13:12.000Next week, the following week, and I got two real transgenders who went from the male to female, whatever you want to call it, and they looked ten times manlier than me.
01:13:26.000Well, because some people were saying, I know the criticism, they were saying it was, the first one was fake, or reactions were fake.
01:13:32.000So, first off, I'm assuming that's not the case, and then you got people who were actually living a life as a transgender person to sort of meet the critics.
01:13:41.000Yeah, so when I wanted to satisfy the people who were like, this is fake, you're not really transgender, just to meet all the criticism with the follow-up video where I had real transgender people, and I had a microphone on them and a camera on them, and as they went in, I was interviewing people as they were coming out, and many people were not happy with that.
01:14:01.000And when I interviewed the transgenders, they even said they get kicked out of bathrooms all the time.
01:14:43.000We're going to get transgenders who are mad about this, but then we get people who are mad because we tried to rent a dwarf, is the term they prefer, for a video we were doing, and they were like, we're not going to rent you one.
01:14:52.000You're using them for untoward purposes.
01:14:54.000We're like, well, your business is rentadwarf.com, or whatever it was.
01:15:30.000Now you have comedians who choose to stay there because they can do better online.
01:15:34.000Is it that sentiment now online with representatives, with other people on YouTube or the blogosphere where they go, you don't want to touch this with a 10-foot pole.
01:15:42.000Don't let people know you're conservative.
01:15:45.000Yeah, because I actually filmed a scissor reel.
01:15:48.000I'm probably not supposed to say this right now, but I filmed a scissor reel for a TV show, and the production company flew out from LA to Staten Island, where I live, filmed the whole thing, edited it, and they started pitching it to MTV, Spike, all the networks.
01:16:04.000And when they started, they said to me, they're like, don't tweet or post anything conservative as we're doing this process, because if...
01:16:14.000If MTV wants to buy it, and then they look into your videos and your tweets, and they find out you're a Trump supporter, the show's not going to sell.
01:16:29.000That is, it is, I mean, listen, it'd be one thing if you were somebody who just sort of, you know, hosted a Young Turks show or a basic daily makeup show.
01:16:37.000You drank your own urine on camera a while ago.
01:16:40.000I mean, you're known for outlandish stunts.
01:16:44.000Let me put that into context, because a lot of people think that I have a weird fetish of drinking my own urine.
01:16:50.000It's actually very common with a lot of Brazilians or people who believe it's cleansing.
01:16:55.000People do actually do that, but I'm just saying, compared to, hey, vote for Trump versus, alright, let's go with the morning dew here as my supercharged smoothie, it seems like that would be a little bit more controversial.
01:17:09.000Well, the reason why I did that was because I was filming a Jackass-style movie with my other YouTube friends.
01:19:07.000I just have issues with him switching back and forth.
01:19:09.000I wish I knew exactly what I were getting.
01:19:11.000And I think you have people who are really far into the never-Trump, which we've never been, and then they can't communicate to anyone who's pro-Trump.
01:19:18.000And then you have the pro-Trump people who just absolutely try to destroy the lives of anyone who's not pro-Trump.
01:19:24.000And we're some of the few people who I'm glad to hear you're listening because I understand it, man.
01:19:28.000I understand your point of view, but I also understand the point of view of someone who's like, I don't know that I can pull the lever.
01:19:34.000But on YouTube, oh my gosh, that's like catnip for comments.
01:19:37.000You ever talk about Trump and what's the reaction?
01:20:31.000And then he looks at me and he's like, you're trying to set us up!
01:20:34.000He started freaking out, cursing at me, and next thing you know, he's got the Trumpers and the anti-Trumpers all teaming up on me because he kept on saying I was going to stomp on the flag.
01:20:46.000So, I mean, I kind of, like, united the people.
01:20:48.000Yeah, you kind of united them where they wanted to stomp you.
01:20:51.000We've run into that a couple times, Nakajaris, specifically this last, this big gun video where people came up and were like, oh, I love what you do.
01:21:51.000Yeah, and then when I was doing that, Milo's, I think it's his manager, Milo's manager was there.
01:21:58.000He goes by Baked Alaska on Twitter, and he was right there when it was happening.
01:22:03.000He was recording it with his phone, and he tweeted out, Joey Sal is exposed, anti-American, because he didn't know the context of why I was doing it.
01:22:12.000Yeah, and people were going off on Twitter, cursing me out, saying that I hated America, all this, all that.
01:23:47.000Yeah, but luckily, because my channel's big, one example, the kid that was going to stomp on the American flag, his mom sent a letter to YouTube saying, that's my son in this shirt, and we want the video removed, and YouTube gave me a notice, in five days the video will be removed, unless you remove it.
01:24:07.000So I hit up my management company, and what they do is they go to YouTube, and they allow me to update the video to put a blur on his face.
01:24:15.000Right, that's what they did with us, too.
01:24:16.000I think that was someone at the Feminist Festival, right?
01:25:54.000I know I'm supposed to give you hope and crap, but little known facts about negotiating, particularly with hostages, you have to give one...
01:28:16.000And then this week, why would you have Joey Salads?
01:28:18.000It doesn't mean we're endorsing them for president.
01:28:21.000Imam Chowdhury, who's now been convicted, who's going away, I think forever, It was on the show and basically said like, yeah, you should die.
01:29:22.000Just don't lie to me and we can have a good discussion.
01:29:25.000The good thing is when we look through our numbers, which we're very grateful for, though we're never going daily, hashtag never daily, so stop asking me on Twitter about it, at S. Crowder.
01:29:35.000Obviously the numbers, if you have a few thousand people who get upset, that doesn't really mean anything.
01:29:39.000But you still do get some people who are just furious, furious that you would have the balls, if I may, to have someone on who could disagree with you.
01:31:17.000At the end of the parking lot, and you guys block for me, I'm going to pull down my pants just to my knee on my left side to rub this on, this numbing sort of oil liquid.
01:31:26.000I don't know what they were doing because they had one job to do.
01:31:29.000Make sure that I wasn't caught with my pants down.
01:31:58.000And then we walked away and we realized my brother had, he has quite the hairy chest, and he had his shirt, for whatever reason he was doing something.
01:32:47.000I don't have a problem with dirty humor.
01:32:50.000Obviously, I think Nick DiPaolo is one of the funniest people ever.
01:32:52.000The thing is, Nick DiPaolo is just as funny on this show when he's working blue in a nightclub or when he's providing commentary on television.
01:32:59.000He doesn't need it, but he does it because he likes it.
01:33:02.000For me, I start to lose tolerance when you can only be funny if it's filthy, if it's shock humor.
01:38:22.000One thing, I know you're not a big fan of Trump, but one thing I said, I don't think, if an immigration policy only affects illegal immigrants negatively...
01:39:56.000Had the head of a news blog basically become...
01:40:03.000The hard of your campaign, it's just insane.
01:40:06.000Well, they've had just those cozy relationships, to be fair, in the left with people at ABC and NBC. It's all the incestuous media political relationships.
01:40:13.000Yeah, the difference is you don't have to pay them on that side.
01:41:09.000It is unprecedented to make this kind of a pivot, but more importantly, along with Roger Ailes.
01:41:14.000So, because I know you caught a lot of flack, right, at your site, and a lot of us did too, where they're going, Fox News is just anti-Trump because of Megyn Kelly.
01:41:22.000And I said for a long time, listen, I know people, half of them are golf buddies with Donald Trump.
01:41:27.000Just because Megyn Kelly doesn't like him doesn't mean Fox News is anti-Trump.
01:41:31.000Do you feel that there's some sort of vindication there, objectively, that, okay, we kind of knew that Fox was favoring Trump with the Ailes situation?
01:41:40.000You know, that's the kind of thing where people don't understand that, you know, you have your sources and you talk to people that you can't really acknowledge.
01:41:49.000You know, like I know people, I talk to them and they tell me what's going on, but I can't see that when I write these things up.
01:41:55.000In that respect, I thought it was pretty obvious.
01:41:59.000I think the more interesting thing now is to look back now that he's on the campaign and ask yourself, Yeah, actually got a lot of ratings boost because of it.
01:42:26.000So it's really kind of fascinating to look back.
01:42:30.000And he's making us so even more attention deficit disorder than we were before that we only think about what's going on in the last half hour.
01:42:41.000But when you look back, it makes it even more fascinating to wonder how this was all planned out.
01:42:47.000Well, I don't think there's a lot of collusion at Fox with all of the anchors.
01:42:49.000I mean, that's why you see a pretty wide spectrum of people who are pro-Trump against Trump.
01:42:53.000I was never told what to say when I was at Fox News, but I've said this.
01:42:57.000The things I really wanted to say sometimes were like, let's stay away from that.
01:43:02.000And there certainly was, you know, when the Romney campaign happened, it was certainly known everyone thought he was the only one who had a chance.
01:43:12.000You know, when it came down to Romney or Santorum, I was like, well, okay, probably Santorum because I thought he had a better chance in the Rust Belt than Romney.
01:43:20.000Doesn't mean I agree with him on a whole lot more than Romney.
01:43:23.000But I remember they made it really clear.
01:43:25.000It was known like, okay, Fox News, this is the Romney house at this point.
01:43:42.000I think you're going to have individual people who are fans, but yeah, as an actual relationship with the head honchos there, of course, it's Donald Trump.
01:43:53.000And I think what we're finding out is that he's had these relationships and he's been forming these for such a long time.
01:44:00.000And so that's why, you know, when you look at what happens, it feels like somebody's pulling the carpet from under you because you're like, wow, like, wow, how are these people all terribly friendly with this guy all of a sudden?
01:44:11.000Like, for instance, Judge Jeanine, right, who who is like one million percent Trump, it turns out that he gave her twenty thousand dollars for a campaign a long time ago.
01:44:23.000And, you know, we don't want to say that she was bought off, but certainly that makes you friendly to somebody, right?
01:44:58.000Do you think this is going to work for Donald Trump, regardless of where you line up or I line up?
01:45:02.000Do you think, from a strategy standpoint, this could pay dividends for Trump to shake it up and go with these people?
01:45:09.000You know what's really odd about this is that what he did is very schizophrenic, right?
01:45:15.000So it depends on whether he listens more to Kellyanne Conway, the pollster, who is the campaign manager, or if he listens to Steve Bannon.
01:45:24.000Because Bannon is very much a bomb thrower, and Kellyanne is not.
01:45:29.000She's a little more straight line, you know.
01:45:33.000So I think what we saw tonight with the speech that he gave is that he's doing what he should be doing, which is staying on course, but being crazy Trump about it.
01:45:45.000So, you know, he was attacking Hillary Clinton.
01:45:48.000He was staying on about illegal immigration.
01:46:02.000Well, I don't have a problem with that.
01:46:04.000I just said I wish he was doing that all along.
01:46:05.000I wish as soon as the primary was done, no more Ted Cruz, any of those people, only Hillary.
01:46:11.000And I was saying if you compared the tweets, Hillary has been much more vicious to Trump than the other way around, and I found that curious.
01:46:45.000And there were a lot of people who thought Romney was going to win, including Dana Perino who talked about it because it was the polls are rigged.
01:46:51.000And I remember back then going, I don't think you're doing yourself any favors by lying here.
01:47:24.000I mean, every swing state, I think, except for Florida, no one has ever been this far behind and come back to win the ones that I've seen.
01:47:31.000And the scary one, the scary one is North Carolina.
01:47:34.000That's a scary one, because he's down by a lot, last poll I checked, and Democrats have only gotten that, what, two times in the last 26 years?
01:48:11.000So we have Chad with AIDS coming up because he got a very nice letter from someone who was inspired by him and we wanted to give him the floor.
01:48:18.000And he has AIDS. And he has the AIDS. So, at SuperMexican...
01:53:17.000Yeah, of course, because it's worked out so well for where he comes from.
01:53:19.000That's why he's fled that country to come here for opportunity.
01:53:22.000So Larry Wilmore takes a show, takes a slot, just kills it, just beats it into the ground, is far, far left, is a total propagandist, was never even that good on the Daily Show to begin with.
01:55:53.000So what he just said is if you love America like me, meaning if you don't love America, you'll vote Trump, you have to hope that Hillary Clinton wins every single electoral vote.
01:56:03.000This is why we won't endorse candidates.
01:56:05.000By the way, I've been critical of Trump.
01:56:09.000This is the kind of thing that makes me want to go out there with a Trump sign, defend him, and pull the lever as many times as I can.
01:56:14.000Find dead guys and dig up their bodies to vote Trump, just like leftists will do for Hillary.
01:56:20.000Get as many illegals to come in who, I don't know what illegals we could get in, who would do the opposite of what the Mexican illegals do, to just pull the lever for Trump.
01:56:28.000This makes me want to defend him so much, where he is an existential threat, therefore you must vote Hillary.
01:56:33.000We can find a good bus and go pick up people who can't afford transportation.
01:59:46.000It's bizarre that we get emails from people saying, I was so inspired by Chad with AIDS as the moniker, and I'm going, I can't believe this is allowed to occur on air.
01:59:58.000I'm surprised you're not more triggered, Chad.
02:00:08.000There was an email from me that was sent.
02:00:10.000For those who don't know, Chad has openly pushed against the leftist Gestapo who fight against disclosure laws with HIV. He's talked about that.
02:00:44.000Thereafter, helped raise a You know, I thought...
02:01:07.000After seeing so much of the other side, I thought that it was really helpful that people took it seriously, that they're understanding the purpose behind what I was talking about.
02:01:17.000You know, we're in a weird place in the gay community right now where we have this medication called PrEP that's supposed to protect you from HIV. We have medications that are supposed to make you undetectable.
02:01:29.000And as Zach Ford was telling you in your interview with him, it's impossible to transfer it.
02:01:38.000Now, I mean, in February there was an article in PAWS Magazine that was talking about a man who became HIV positive because he was taking PrEP like he was supposed to and he had sex with a man who had a drug-resistant form of HIV. And about 1% of people that become HIV positive inherit a drug-resistant form of HIV. It's increasing because we're using the same drugs and there are more and more people getting infected that they're becoming HIV positive.
02:02:34.000I haven't heard of this sort of super virus like you've talked about, people who are on this drug, but it's certainly more common than the 0% he made it out to be.
02:02:41.000And then we have this drag queen, this Irish drag queen who the Huffington Post says, drag queen makes powerful statement by wearing tiara coated with HIV positive blood to fight HIV stigma.
02:03:21.000And by the way, there is nothing that I or even the Westboro Baptist Church could do to stigmatize trannies and HIV more than putting them out in a parade with an HIV blood-covered tiara.
02:03:33.000I don't know who you have to talk to at the secret gay meetings, but just so you know, they don't require homophobes to stigmatize them when they're doing a much better job with that.
02:03:46.000If that transgender doesn't have HIV, I'm not going to lie, that's ironically a ballsy move to an HIV tiara.
02:03:54.000So I will give respect where it's due, Chad.
02:03:59.000By the way, I'd like to point out that somehow transgender people manage to use public bathrooms for 60 years until 2015 when all of a sudden...
02:04:11.000Well, it became an issue because of the city ordinance in Charlotte, and then the state had to come out and say, well, okay, that can infringe on businesses.
02:04:17.000And so people who don't understand it and don't trace it, they just go, why did North Carolina have to create a law?
02:04:21.000Even Ruben was talking about this, and he was actually just...
02:04:23.000It's like, well, because Charlotte did first, and they didn't want businesses to be under a threat because they practiced their privacy rights and say, no, you should use this bathroom.
02:04:33.000So a lot of people don't know that, and that was kind of a catalyst, and nobody talks about it.
02:04:59.000You know, the first thing that hits me from the gender unicorn is that the assumption is that we're all queer.
02:05:06.000It's a purple unicorn thinking of a rainbow.
02:05:10.000And the idea is it breaks down gender identity, gender expression, sex assigned to birth, physical attracted to and emotionally attracted to.
02:05:26.000Well, there's so much now, whether it's Dragon Lady, whether it's the five-year-old, whether it's, you know, HuffPost said things you should never say to a non-gender binary person.
02:05:34.000For those who don't know, that means they could be gay, they could be straight, they could be a woman, they could be a man on any given day, just depending on how they feel.
02:07:21.000I appreciate you giving us a window into it.
02:07:24.000Yeah, they played along for a while, and then his girlfriend came over, and I was like, oh great, I've hit on a straight guy in a gay bar, of course.
02:07:45.000It's unfair to transgender people, but I don't think a straight man should be expected to be attracted to a man who becomes female, no matter how well that person passes.
02:07:58.000Their body is still male to resemble female.
02:08:01.000I think that is perfectly acceptable for a straight man to say no.
02:08:04.000I don't think a single gay man that I know would be comfortable dating a woman who now resembles a man.
02:08:11.000Well, that's more common, but I did have a prominent gay conservative tell me.
02:08:15.000And by the way, people are going to say it's not Milo.
02:08:48.000This person said, well, once you break down the sexual norms that are expected, you're free to love whoever you want.
02:08:54.000And what I thought about that answer is, okay, I understand that here, but then you lose your leg to stand on if people say, well, then why not pedophilia?
02:09:04.000Because you've basically said the first step is breaking down any kind of sexual or gender norms, and that's how you sort of explain being attracted to women, but being attracted to women who look like men.
02:09:15.000So for you, in that sense, as a gay person, have you been attracted to the...
02:09:19.000Because you don't come across super feminine.
02:09:22.000I would imagine if you're attracted to men, you wouldn't want your men to be super feminine.
02:09:25.000But I can't really climb into that noggin of yours, and I don't claim to.
02:11:22.000But I think you can see some Definitely some trends in the raising of a lot of gay people or some relationships, and then you can see trends just genetically.
02:11:32.000I'm not saying a gay gene, but they tend to be a certain way, just like some people tend to be unbelievable swimmers like Michael Phelps.
02:11:39.000But then this turns it on its head if you have to accept this gender fluidity.
02:11:43.000You have to do away with all of that or it doesn't work.
02:11:51.000Your article about waiting for marriage was a, I think to me, it was a beautiful article about...
02:11:59.000Understanding your role in your own attraction.
02:12:04.000Certainly you were naturally attracted to women, but you chose how you understood that.
02:12:09.000I think that this idea that there have always just been gay people exactly the way we understand gay people now doesn't necessarily make sense.
02:12:16.000There have been lots of periods of time where homosexuality was more or less socially acceptable.
02:13:02.000Well, I now bring you an exclusive, as Shadle Acornson of Squirrelceuticals has released yet another in a never-ending series of attack ads regarding the Hoppercane ticket.
02:13:15.000Listen, my opponent, Hopper, has a temperament that's, uh, unfit for the Oval Office.
02:13:22.000Just look at how nitty this son of a bitch is!
02:15:53.000Sometimes he says stuff where I'm going, gosh, I can't believe you would say that on air.
02:15:56.000Or I'm surprised that you would open up on air.
02:15:59.000To speak out against the gay community, the LGBTQAIP community, the movement, the way he does, and the flack he catches, I think it's great.
02:17:59.000We never call anybody out who we—well, I never call anybody out who I wouldn't gladly debate.
02:18:05.000People may think, if I'm an instigator, and by the way, I've never obsessed and flooded their timeline or asked, if you listen to the show, I certainly hope you don't do that and never bully anyone.
02:18:17.000We've always maintained good relationships with liberals, even though I'm blatantly against everything they stand for.
02:18:23.000But if I call somebody out and they say, okay, let's have this conversation, I will make that walk.
02:18:29.000I will have that conversation every single time.
02:18:32.000The people who don't The people who get offended, the people who start Twitter campaigns, YouTube, wherever it is, or if they get on AM radio, if they get on Fox News, and they don't provide that person any sort of platform or recourse, that's a coward.
02:19:13.000So just think of that, the online gang, that's what it is, and then when someone is out alone, that's when you see them for who they truly are, whether it's a Clinton or whether it's an online troll.
02:19:25.000And I think that's important because we're having a conversation about bullying right now, and it's important to delineate, for example, someone like a Milo writing a bad review about Ghostbusters and being snippy about Leslie Jones, and somebody else who starts an active campaign to destroy a career like Like people have tried to do with Milo, for example.
02:19:42.000I think some people have tried to do it with me.
02:19:45.000Or people have certainly tried to do it with whether it's Glenn Beck, whether it's Rush Limbaugh, whether it's someone on the left.
02:19:52.000People who do that and then refuse to show up and hide in the shadows.
02:19:55.000Because when we talk about bullying, people go, someone said something mean and you have Twitter trust and safety cancels now and free speech is being infringed.
02:20:02.000It's important that you define what bullying is.
02:20:05.000And so sometimes people say you can be a little bit rough on this show.
02:21:23.000When you define it, and that's one thing we try and do on this show, whereas people who are dishonest try to hide from context, we try to shine a light on as much context as possible.
02:21:32.000When you are clear as to the terminology you're using, okay, this is what bullying is, this is what rape is, this is what racism is, then you can have an honest conversation about it.
02:21:42.000When you try and move the goalposts, and that's where we are right now with the media and as a country, no one is able to have a conversation.
02:21:48.000Now we have people who aim loaded guns at cops and we call them victims.
02:21:51.000Now we have women who've felt their sisters hoo-ha like Lana Dunham and we call them victims of rape.
02:21:57.000Well, it doesn't mean anything anymore.
02:21:59.000So let's be clear about what we're discussing and only then can we discuss it.