Louder with Crowder - #91 HILLARY CLINTON HAS AIDS! Sally Kohn, Andrew Klavan and Anthony Cumia | Louder With Crowder

00:00:02.000 All right, so the guy we have now, right, he's a pretty popular YouTuber.

00:00:19.000 He did an impression of us.

00:00:22.000 It was cute, right?

00:00:25.000 Let's go to Steven Kreider.

00:00:26.000 We're going to have you there.

00:00:28.000 Wait, I'm sorry.

00:00:34.000 Thank you.

00:00:36.000 We have you on for a sound check now.

00:00:40.000 Steven, I think you'll be back in five minutes.

00:00:42.000 Okay, we're live, right?

00:00:45.000 Okay, there's no sound check.

00:00:46.000 Of course there's no sound check.

00:00:48.000 Yeah, you heard?

00:00:48.000 What?

00:00:50.000 Bring those down? 0.95

00:00:51.000 Of course we're live.

00:00:53.000 You know, Jared, Jared, come on.

00:00:55.000 Okay, so come on.

00:00:56.000 Where's Crowder?

00:00:57.000 I'm sorry, I have you down as a sound check.

00:01:01.000 I think I'll be here.

00:01:02.000 Okay, see, this is what you do, right?

00:01:04.000 We're going to have a guest, but we're not...

00:01:06.000 Where's the guest?

00:01:07.000 Okay, Jared, where's the guest?

00:01:09.000 Where's the guest? 1.00

00:01:20.000 That's bullshit! 1.00

00:01:21.000 Where's the guest? 1.00

00:01:22.000 Where's the guest?

00:01:23.000 He should be here.

00:01:24.000 Where's the guest?

00:01:24.000 He should be here in a second.

00:01:25.000 You told us that four hours ago!

00:01:27.000 Yeah, four hours! 1.00

00:01:28.000 That's bullshit! 1.00

00:01:29.000 That's more than three. 1.00

00:01:29.000 Where's the guest? 1.00

00:01:30.000 That was literally like, I think, 30 seconds ago.

00:01:34.000 Where's the gas?

00:01:50.000 He's like the Armenian Genocide, Jake. 0.63

00:01:52.000 He's, uh, non-existent.

00:01:55.000 Okay, what'd you say?

00:01:56.000 I said he'll be here soon.

00:01:57.000 That's right, nothing! 1.00

00:01:58.000 Didn't sound like nothing, you not gay, low hemoglobin f**k! 1.00

00:02:02.000 That's just the white balance. 1.00

00:02:04.000 And a little hemoglobin.

00:02:05.000 Okay, oh, hemoglobin.

00:02:06.000 Of course!

00:02:07.000 Just gotta excuse it as hemoglobin.

00:02:08.000 Once again!

00:02:09.000 This is what you do! 1.00

00:02:12.000 You say you're going to have a dance, a little sharp, and then you f***ing ass even higher! 1.00

00:02:16.000 Once again! 1.00

00:02:17.000 Tink, you're getting upset.

00:02:18.000 You need your energy, okay?

00:02:19.000 Time for a duck fat break.

00:02:21.000 It's not bacon grease?

00:02:23.000 No, no bacon grease today.

00:02:24.000 You need balance.

00:02:24.000 It's time for a duck fat.

00:02:27.000 Duck fat.

00:02:28.000 Num, num, duck fat.

00:02:29.000 Oh, it does the body good.

00:02:33.000 It does the body good, duck fat.

00:02:37.000 No more duck fat.

00:02:40.000 Let's take a bad turn quickly.

00:02:42.000 Okay, look, I don't want to get mad, right?

00:02:44.000 So, it'll take five minutes.

00:02:46.000 Calm down, we'll come back.

00:02:49.000 Zana's shaving?

00:02:49.000 You said we had five minutes.

00:02:51.000 We were supposed to be on a break! 1.00

00:02:53.000 You're invading my privacy, you f***! 1.00

00:02:55.000 I hate you! 1.00

00:02:56.000 I hate you! 1.00

00:02:57.000 I hate you so much! 1.00

00:02:58.000 I hate you so much! 1.00

00:02:59.000 What'd I do? 0.97

00:03:00.000 You made me want to stop saying... 1.00

00:03:02.000 That's bullshit! 1.00

00:03:03.000 What you're doing! 1.00

00:03:03.000 That's bullshit! 1.00

00:03:03.000 I hate you so f***ing much! 1.00

00:03:08.000 That's bullshit! 1.00

00:03:08.000 I hate you so f***ing much! 1.00

00:03:13.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet. 1.00

00:03:18.000 Politics.

00:03:19.000 Civility?

00:03:20.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

00:03:22.000 Entertainment.

00:03:23.000 I don't like entertainment!

00:03:25.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:03:27.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:03:30.000 You have a very unhealthy body.

00:03:31.000 You should have a horrible body image. 0.96

00:03:32.000 Not a big home improvement market in Detroit.

00:03:35.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

00:03:37.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal. 0.97

00:03:41.000 You're a strange animal. 0.95

00:03:43.000 That's what I know. 0.99

00:03:45.000 You're getting louder with Crowder. 0.99

00:03:48.000 But you're a strange animal. 0.88

00:03:51.000 I've got to follow. 0.91

00:03:53.000 Oh, I'm in the spiritus.

00:03:59.000 Glad to be with you.

00:04:00.000 That's the sound of the weekend.

00:04:01.000 People were asking me before.

00:04:03.000 Let me get my mic here adjusted.

00:04:04.000 I'm your host, Steven Kreider.

00:04:05.000 Louder with Kreider.com for all references and materials.

00:04:08.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.98

00:04:11.000 Follow him on Twitter at NotGayJared.

00:04:14.000 I fulfill my legal obligations, and you can draw your own conclusions.

00:04:19.000 References are so old school, by the way.

00:04:21.000 We make this stuff up.

00:04:22.000 We make this stuff up on the fly.

00:04:25.000 Stop.

00:04:27.000 That's horrible.

00:04:27.000 We've got a big show.

00:04:28.000 Huge show.

00:04:29.000 Young Turks, obviously. 0.77

00:04:30.000 So we have a big debate with Sally Cohn.

00:04:32.000 I know people are going to get mad.

00:04:34.000 I actually have a lot of respect for Sally.

00:04:35.000 She's willing to get into conversations with voices of opposition.

00:04:39.000 Sally Cohn, Andrew Klavan talking about Hillary Clinton, and Anthony Cumia probably talking about Hillary Clinton as well later on.

00:04:46.000 And we also have Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:04:49.000 That's a get.

00:04:50.000 That's a big get.

00:04:51.000 That's what you call a big catch.

00:04:54.000 It is, and I'm surprised you know.

00:04:55.000 You need some heavy-duty fishing line.

00:04:58.000 You need like a shark chair.

00:05:00.000 Yes.

00:05:01.000 But we did.

00:05:01.000 We reeled in Hillary Clinton.

00:05:02.000 We caught her.

00:05:03.000 She's going to be in the second hour, or for those listening to the podcast on YouTube, somewhere in the hour and a half mark.

00:05:09.000 And Bob Ross.

00:05:10.000 Joins us again to teach you how to draw Hillary Clinton.

00:05:14.000 Wow.

00:05:15.000 Because I'm wondering, what should we start off with?

00:05:17.000 Hillary Clinton or the Tyree King?

00:05:20.000 Tyree King thing has blown up the old twitters.

00:05:23.000 So we'll get into Hillary Clinton because there's a lot that's happened this week. 0.99

00:05:25.000 The DNC leaks.

00:05:26.000 Hillary Clinton is now statistically tied with Donald Trump.

00:05:29.000 That is insanity.

00:05:30.000 Not really.

00:05:32.000 Anything can happen.

00:05:33.000 It's still anybody's game, but they're probably hitting panic button or just stabbing each other with a day as a pan-pan.

00:05:38.000 Who knows what their panic button equivalent is.

00:05:41.000 Tyree King was trending today.

00:05:42.000 This is another one in the Black Lives Matter, number one trend all over the place. 1.00

00:05:46.000 Listen, you hear this at first glance, and it sounds terrible.

00:05:51.000 13-year-old kid shot by a police officer.

00:05:54.000 You're going, oh, no.

00:05:56.000 Um...

00:05:57.000 But that's not what happened.

00:05:58.000 So it's all over Twitter.

00:05:59.000 Let me tell you something here.

00:06:02.000 Beyond, with a situation like this, well, okay.

00:06:04.000 We don't have any video with Tyree King, do we?

00:06:06.000 No, we just have this, I have an image.

00:06:08.000 We have some images.

00:06:08.000 Let me give you some context.

00:06:09.000 So it sounds horrible.

00:06:10.000 13-year-old shot by police officers.

00:06:11.000 Until you realize that the officer was approaching him because he was fingered from someone at 2 a.m.

00:06:20.000 armed robbery with a firearm.

00:06:22.000 Police officer approached him and some friends.

00:06:24.000 His other friends ran.

00:06:26.000 Then this boy also ran into an alley and he pulled out, when apprehended by the police officers, pulled his BB gun that looks like a real gun from his waistband.

00:06:37.000 Just so there's no confusion, beyond the obvious that it's always sad when there's a loss of human life to some degree.

00:06:45.000 Beyond that, I've reached a point where I have no sympathy left to give.

00:06:50.000 Committing a violent crime and pulling a gun out, or whatever looks, it looks exactly like a gun, on an officer at 2 a.m.

00:06:59.000 Your age is irrelevant.

00:07:00.000 Your race is irrelevant. 0.99

00:07:02.000 You're rolling the dice and you lost that one.

00:07:04.000 Let's bring up the image here.

00:07:06.000 This is the police officer.

00:07:07.000 Okay, so there's the 13-year-old kid.

00:07:08.000 There's the firearm.

00:07:09.000 You know what I noticed right away when I saw that firearm?

00:07:11.000 That's the BB gun.

00:07:13.000 For those listening terrestrially, it looks exactly like a real gun.

00:07:16.000 Proof?

00:07:17.000 Here you go.

00:07:18.000 Here is my, I love this firearm by the way, Walther PPQ. Jared, can we do a split screen with me in that or no?

00:07:23.000 Probably not.

00:07:24.000 No, we can't.

00:07:24.000 Alright, there you go.

00:07:26.000 You can't know.

00:07:28.000 You can't know at 2am.

00:07:30.000 You cannot know at 2am that that's not a real firearm. 0.95

00:07:32.000 So this idea that cops are shooting kids for squirt guns, it's silly and it's irrelevant. 0.67

00:07:37.000 The cop thought that it was an actual firearm. 0.96

00:07:40.000 And this idea came out that, well, they wouldn't do this with a white kid. 0.61

00:07:44.000 Right.

00:07:45.000 Because I know that when I was a kid and I committed violent assault, when I robbed people, when I committed armed robbery, and when I pulled my BB gun out on police officers, I said, thank God for white supremacy.

00:08:00.000 Yes. 1.00

00:08:01.000 Covers your butt again. 0.99

00:08:03.000 Were you not taught as a kid, don't even aim a Nerf gun at a police officer? 0.99

00:08:07.000 Yeah, but before that was don't commit armed robberies at 2 a.m.

00:08:10.000 That was a big one.

00:08:11.000 Right.

00:08:11.000 You go at lunchtime.

00:08:12.000 You go at lunchtime.

00:08:13.000 You have to pick your spots.

00:08:15.000 So, this idea right away is Black Lives Matter. 0.99

00:08:17.000 They could have shot them with a beanbag gun, right? 0.99

00:08:19.000 They're going to walk... 1.00

00:08:20.000 Maybe they could...

00:08:21.000 You know what?

00:08:21.000 Let's just arm police officers with t-shirt cannons like you see at baseball games.

00:08:26.000 Just, hey, what are those?

00:08:27.000 The Crips?

00:08:28.000 Hope you want a Cancun Booze Cruise t-shirt!

00:08:31.000 I have yet to win one of those.

00:08:35.000 In my whole life.

00:08:36.000 A t-shirt cannon?

00:08:36.000 Yeah.

00:08:37.000 I think someone died once.

00:08:38.000 They had to tone down the power.

00:08:39.000 Oh, really?

00:08:40.000 He was in beanbag guns. 1.00

00:08:41.000 Shoot the kid in the leg. 1.00

00:08:42.000 Well, then those are lethal, too. 1.00

00:08:43.000 Well, here's how these things get completely conflated, right? 1.00

00:08:46.000 Why don't you shoot the kid in the leg? 0.99

00:08:47.000 It wasn't a violent threat. 1.00

00:08:48.000 That officer thinks that's a real gun.

00:08:51.000 He has to.

00:08:52.000 He thinks he's about to- Of course he has to.

00:08:53.000 You have to assume it is.

00:08:54.000 It's the most absurd story, and Corin Gaines, this is a great example.

00:08:59.000 When Black Lives Matter trot these out, they're almost always false.

00:09:01.000 Now let's assume that the police reports are somewhat accurate.

00:09:04.000 Right away, what do they say?

00:09:05.000 If you look at the tweets, we covered this on the website.

00:09:07.000 Oh, you're supposed to believe the neo-Nazi KKK police?

00:09:10.000 When you say this, this is why we're seeing record violence against the police officers.

00:09:13.000 When you hold this out and you have to Sean King the narrative with 13-year-old innocent kid just has a cap gun and gets shot by a police officer for no reason, listen, you think those officers are monsters.

00:09:26.000 And so you make it okay to treat them like monsters.

00:09:29.000 This is what you have.

00:09:30.000 We don't have any more on that, do we, as far as the images?

00:09:33.000 No, we have Tamir.

00:09:34.000 Oh, right, right, right.

00:09:35.000 People are going, well, this is like Sean King.

00:09:37.000 This is just like Tamir Rice, a kid who was shot for playing in a playground.

00:09:41.000 Have you seen the Tamir Rice video?

00:09:43.000 Here, we'll roll it for you.

00:09:44.000 This is the Tamir Rice video.

00:09:45.000 That's him aiming what looks like a real gun at passersby in the park.

00:09:50.000 So even there, in a hoodie, you can't...

00:09:52.000 Tamir Rice is a golden example they point to.

00:09:55.000 He wasn't asked. 0.84

00:09:56.000 Did he deserve to die? 0.99

00:09:57.000 No.

00:09:58.000 Is it unfortunate?

00:09:59.000 Is it something that was entirely preventable?

00:09:59.000 Yeah.

00:10:03.000 Absolutely.

00:10:04.000 This is going to happen.

00:10:05.000 It's going to happen more and more, especially as it goes into election.

00:10:07.000 You're going to hear more stories of sexism.

00:10:09.000 We have a video on that from, what's her name?

00:10:10.000 Veronica Mars.

00:10:12.000 Christian Bell later.

00:10:13.000 Where we're going to have to go back to dispelling the pay gap myth.

00:10:17.000 Again.

00:10:17.000 You're going to see more of these leading up to election because this is what Democrats need.

00:10:21.000 Oh, DNC leaks happen.

00:10:22.000 Better ask Pence about David Duke.

00:10:25.000 Hillary Clinton had an epileptic seizure.

00:10:28.000 Better, uh, let's put out a story of a kid being shot by officers.

00:10:31.000 Robert Byrd, let's just get him out of here.

00:10:34.000 Let's just shuffle Robert Byrd out of here.

00:10:38.000 You're going to see more of these stories of racism, of sexism, stories that basically create that narrative or at least support it.

00:10:44.000 You're going to see far, far more of that.

00:10:46.000 So we covered on the website.

00:10:48.000 It's not what it seems at first pass.

00:10:51.000 That's what matters with the lyric.

00:10:53.000 What's his name?

00:10:54.000 Tyree King?

00:10:55.000 Tyree? 0.97

00:10:56.000 It's also a silly name. 0.99

00:10:57.000 It's a silly name. 0.99

00:10:59.000 There's no reason. 0.98

00:11:00.000 There's no meaning to it.

00:11:01.000 No. 0.91

00:11:02.000 I don't know what it is with black Americans. 0.90

00:11:05.000 If you want to go with your African hair, just pick a name. 0.98

00:11:07.000 Or pick a name that means something in English.

00:11:09.000 My slightly racist grandfather always said they just take a scattergories dice.

00:11:13.000 Oh, God. 1.00

00:11:15.000 You're a horrible human being. 1.00

00:11:17.000 So this happened before this show. 1.00

00:11:19.000 Of course, everyone knows about this, and we'll be talking about this.

00:11:22.000 We're going to have Hillary Clinton on to discuss her health later, because this is the famous clip from this week. 0.68

00:11:27.000 It happened quite a while ago in the week.

00:11:30.000 Jared, you can just roll the clip.

00:11:31.000 There's no sound there.

00:11:33.000 You can see Hillary Clinton, and there you go.

00:11:33.000 Here you go.

00:11:35.000 She's bracing her fat, immobile hips against that thing there, and she's just, okay, all right.

00:11:42.000 Just so you know, we never covered, this is important for people listening right now.

00:11:47.000 This is pulling back the curtain.

00:11:49.000 We never covered the conspiratorial Hillary health issues.

00:11:53.000 We never really got into it when people were saying, oh, she clearly has Parkinson's, because it's not something that we know.

00:11:59.000 It's not something that can be verified.

00:12:02.000 This, we did cover.

00:12:04.000 We were first to cover it when it happened Sunday morning.

00:12:06.000 We got to it really early.

00:12:07.000 Because there's something going on here, okay?

00:12:10.000 And they lied about it.

00:12:11.000 That's what matters.

00:12:11.000 Now, I will tell you this.

00:12:12.000 Be leery when you read about Hillary health stories.

00:12:15.000 Because when we ran this story, it did about four times the clicks of any other story from that week.

00:12:20.000 So, Hillary health conspiracies are like catnip for clicks. 0.99

00:12:23.000 And so you see a lot of conservative, a lot of right-wing sites trying to make more money off of it, and they push it when it's not true.

00:12:29.000 This is the only one we actively covered.

00:12:31.000 So it's important to be truthful with it.

00:12:33.000 And that's why this one is such a story.

00:12:35.000 They said she had pneumonia.

00:12:36.000 Here's the deal.

00:12:37.000 They lied about it.

00:12:38.000 They lied about Hillary's health.

00:12:40.000 And you see, by the way, pneumonia with this, it doesn't look...

00:12:43.000 I've known plenty of people with pneumonia.

00:12:45.000 I've had bronchitis.

00:12:46.000 It doesn't look like that.

00:12:48.000 They lied about it.

00:12:49.000 They could have just done a Friday, hey, Hillary Clinton was diagnosed with pneumonia, she's going to be out of the campaign for the weekend, she needs some rest.

00:12:55.000 Instead, they were saying, oh, these right-wing conspiracy theories, Hillary is in perfect health. 1.00

00:12:59.000 She's a picture of health.

00:13:00.000 Go ahead, wave, Hillary. 1.00

00:13:02.000 Never mind her doing the Carlton dance.

00:13:03.000 Never mind her doing the Carlton dance.

00:13:07.000 And then this happened.

00:13:08.000 So why it matters now is it...

00:13:11.000 Could it be that she has pneumonia?

00:13:12.000 Yes, of course.

00:13:13.000 That's probably the most likely scenario.

00:13:15.000 However, could it also be that her campaign lied proactively?

00:13:18.000 Because that's just what they do.

00:13:20.000 That's Tuesday.

00:13:21.000 That's Friday.

00:13:22.000 That's any day.

00:13:23.000 All days are lying days with the Hillary Clinton campaign, so they just lied because they didn't know what else to do?

00:13:27.000 Yeah.

00:13:27.000 So it's very likely she has something like pneumonia.

00:13:29.000 I think there's something more going on here if you watch that video.

00:13:32.000 And, of course, her campaign is lying about it.

00:13:35.000 How can we talk about Islam? 0.85

00:13:36.000 Lying is bad enough. 0.97

00:13:37.000 That's bad enough.

00:13:40.000 Yeah.

00:13:40.000 You don't need to do the body double conspiracies.

00:13:43.000 Republicans can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

00:13:46.000 Just like the Cleveland Browns.

00:13:47.000 Yes.

00:13:48.000 Every day.

00:13:48.000 They lied about this.

00:13:50.000 Let's go with that. 0.96

00:13:51.000 Well, and also, she's a lizard person. 1.00

00:13:53.000 Damn it. 1.00

00:13:54.000 Damn it. 1.00

00:13:55.000 But this all comes back to something. 0.99

00:14:13.000 Well, this also comes in the heels of the DNC leaks.

00:14:15.000 I have this up here.

00:14:16.000 We'll get into that more after the break.

00:14:18.000 And Americans' trust in mass media has sunken to a new low, all-time low, according to Gallup.

00:14:23.000 So all this happens at the same time.

00:14:25.000 Hillary is now in a tie. 1.00

00:14:26.000 The DNC leaks, the health issues.

00:14:28.000 Listen, there have been leaks going on for a long time.

00:14:30.000 There have been a lot of people asking questions regarding her health.

00:14:33.000 Dr.

00:14:33.000 Drew was fired for asking questions about Hillary Clinton's health.

00:14:37.000 And now it comes out it's true.

00:14:39.000 DNC leaks.

00:14:40.000 Now it comes out that there's been collusion, corruption, beyond the scope of what we even thought, and Hillary's in a statistical tie.

00:14:46.000 So it's not just the fact that she's sick.

00:14:48.000 It's not just the fact that the race is narrowing.

00:14:50.000 It is a reflection of what people are thinking regarding Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party.

00:14:55.000 And I think that's pretty significant.

00:14:56.000 So we'll get into DNC leaks and a little economics after this.

00:15:00.000 That's always fun.

00:15:01.000 Brainy.

00:15:02.000 And now for the adventures of the white privilege boy. . . 0.82

00:15:20.000 .

00:15:22.000 Hey, buddies, what do you want to do today?

00:15:24.000 You want to go down to the arcade and play pinball?

00:15:27.000 No.

00:15:28.000 I know!

00:15:28.000 How about we play hide-and-seek?

00:15:30.000 We did that last week.

00:15:32.000 I know!

00:15:32.000 Want to take our accurate-to-replica BB guns and commit an armed robbery?

00:15:36.000 Yeah, that sounds fun!

00:15:37.000 Let's do it!

00:15:38.000 All right, let's do it!

00:15:39.000 Yeah!

00:15:39.000 Oh, those boys!

00:15:41.000 What pickle will they find themselves in next?

00:15:44.000 Stay tuned for next week's installment of Adventures of the White Privilege Boys.

00:15:51.000 Hey Jared, what are you doing? 0.91

00:15:53.000 Shooting bad guys. 0.87

00:15:54.000 With what? 0.60

00:15:55.000 By AR-15.

00:15:56.000 Where'd you get it?

00:15:57.000 AR-15.com.

00:15:58.000 Enunciate it more clearly so our audience can hear.

00:16:01.000 AR-15.com.

00:16:03.000 That's better.

00:16:04.000 They sell guns now?

00:16:05.000 Yeah, they do.

00:16:06.000 Are they any good?

00:16:07.000 They're the best.

00:16:08.000 Where from?

00:16:09.000 AR-15.com.

00:16:10.000 Kapoor!

00:16:11.000 You really make that sound?

00:16:13.000 Didn't have the budget for sound effects.

00:16:15.000 Oh, there's another one! 0.78

00:16:18.000 You shot him!

00:16:20.000 With what?

00:16:20.000 From AR-15.

00:16:21.000 From where?

00:16:22.000 AR-15.com.

00:16:23.000 Hey, how do you know they're bad guys?

00:16:25.000 They're Reds and Burkas. 1.00

00:16:27.000 That's racist! 0.96

00:17:04.000 Glad to be back!

00:17:06.000 Have Sally Cohn coming up here at the end of this segment. 0.99

00:17:10.000 So DNC Leaks came out and boy was that buried quickly.

00:17:12.000 Boy was that buried quickly from social media.

00:17:15.000 What do we know about DNC Leaks?

00:17:18.000 I have this up on the screen.

00:17:20.000 We know that there have been mammoth donations to the DNC from...

00:17:24.000 Hey! 0.99

00:17:25.000 Surprise!

00:17:26.000 Any sector of the government, whether it's the post office, any sector that involves public sector unions, all of them give massively to Democrats.

00:17:36.000 So not only that, do they give massively to Democrats, but we've found out that Democrats were providing favors and positions on boards for these people.

00:17:44.000 So for a good example, any folks who you'd like to be considered to be on the board of, for example, USPS, NEA, NEH, basically anyone who has a niche interest and might like to serve on one of these organizations.

00:17:54.000 This is, of course, being delivered to donors there.

00:17:56.000 So we've always known that the Democrats were corrupt.

00:17:59.000 This is just a whole new level of it.

00:18:01.000 And this is one thing that I've talked about.

00:18:03.000 Science, research, basically any information with which you're provided from the government, of course, can be manipulated.

00:18:11.000 Here's something that's funny.

00:18:12.000 When people say, oh, big oil, big companies, there is nothing that can create the kind of corruption and collusion that the government can.

00:18:18.000 Look at Wall Street.

00:18:19.000 That's government.

00:18:21.000 That cannot exist without government because banks that are too big to fail, guess what?

00:18:24.000 They fail.

00:18:25.000 Too big to fail is a government problem, not a bank problem.

00:18:29.000 So, by the way, the top political donors, the donating political class, it's unions.

00:18:34.000 Big unions, particularly big public sector unions.

00:18:37.000 So, when people say, oh, you're just providing research, let's say, I don't know, against climate change because of big oil.

00:18:43.000 Well, there are billions in unpaid tax liabilities from green companies.

00:18:47.000 And scientists have billions of dollars in research.

00:18:50.000 Now, these are scientists who work for the government.

00:18:52.000 So, not only are they incentivized, like people who maybe work for private business, They are beholden.

00:18:56.000 They are required to find a reason for the DNC to be in power and bigger government.

00:19:01.000 Otherwise, those grants stop.

00:19:03.000 When people act like this gravy train is coming from these private companies and our debt just hit 19.5 trillion.

00:19:09.000 19.5 trillion.

00:19:10.000 Just a few billion dollars in tax liabilities with green companies that have been unpaid to Obama.

00:19:15.000 Solyndra was 500 million.

00:19:16.000 Can you imagine if there were one private company that had 500 million dollars of taxpayer money that they wouldn't give back?

00:19:23.000 One company?

00:19:24.000 One company with billions?

00:19:26.000 It would be, oh, it's a company that the Koch brothers, what, are worth a few billion?

00:19:30.000 People get mad about people, they're worth $3 billion.

00:19:32.000 The government is $19.5 trillion.

00:19:35.000 And a lot of that money goes to coaxing people.

00:19:38.000 Not to mention we're talking about the post office here.

00:19:40.000 They're bankrupt.

00:19:41.000 And they're giving millions, billions.

00:19:42.000 You want to give you some funding?

00:19:43.000 I think this needs a little funding.

00:19:45.000 Oh my god!

00:19:48.000 Ah!

00:19:49.000 It's too early in the program for that.

00:19:51.000 Yeah, Jerry put up an image of Lena Dunham in a bikini.

00:19:54.000 Anyway, that's a brief lesson in economics.

00:19:56.000 How much time do we have?

00:19:56.000 Something else.

00:19:57.000 We have five minutes?

00:19:58.000 Four and a half.

00:19:58.000 We have four and a half.

00:19:59.000 This is important.

00:20:00.000 So people talk about their fair share.

00:20:02.000 You know, we might want to take more.

00:20:06.000 Yeah, okay.

00:20:07.000 We'll talk about this.

00:20:07.000 The top fifth of earners in the United States, when people talk about their fair share, I have this up on here, have increased their income from 43% in 1979 to 48% in 2010.

00:20:17.000 The top 1% have increased their share from 1979 from 8% to 13%.

00:20:21.000 So when people say, you're not getting your fair share, that's what they're talking about.

00:20:25.000 Here's the deal.

00:20:26.000 Everyone is doing far better.

00:20:28.000 So a lot of people don't understand this.

00:20:30.000 Inequality is not the main issue if everyone is doing better.

00:20:34.000 If some people are doing far better...

00:20:36.000 Let me give you an example.

00:20:36.000 Lauderworth Credit didn't exist two years ago.

00:20:39.000 I told Jared, he was pushing a salt truck.

00:20:41.000 I said, hey...

00:20:42.000 Jared, this is what I can pay you.

00:20:44.000 It's not a lot, but as we grow, I promise you I'll pay you more.

00:20:47.000 Now we have five employees, and Jared gets a far smaller share of a much bigger pie.

00:20:52.000 So let me give you an example.

00:20:53.000 What would you rather have here?

00:20:54.000 Here's Jared before.

00:20:55.000 Louder with credit two years ago.

00:20:56.000 I'm giving you some visual aids here.

00:20:58.000 He had at least half of the full pie.

00:21:01.000 I took no salaries, Jared knows, and the rest went into marketing and growth and serving costs, okay?

00:21:05.000 So Jared had half of that pie.

00:21:07.000 That's more fair.

00:21:08.000 Well, here's the new pie.

00:21:10.000 With many more employees forgive the oblong pie.

00:21:16.000 Now Jared has this share of the pie.

00:21:19.000 So! 0.81

00:21:20.000 If your worldview is just, well, there's one piece of pie and you need your fair share, well, guess what?

00:21:24.000 That first pie is better because Jared has half.

00:21:26.000 He only has a quarter of this new pie.

00:21:27.000 Even though the quarter is double, you can see the size of the very first pie.

00:21:32.000 And this is why it matters.

00:21:33.000 So, this is why this matters.

00:21:35.000 Because, yeah, every situation needs to be taken individually.

00:21:38.000 You need to look at issues critically.

00:21:39.000 And there is nuance.

00:21:40.000 But isms matter.

00:21:42.000 When people think that they're above it, well, I'm not a conservative.

00:21:44.000 I'm not a liberal.

00:21:45.000 I don't believe in isms.

00:21:46.000 No, no.

00:21:46.000 The ism is the prism through which you will see the world.

00:21:49.000 And if you believe in liberalism or leftism, you would look at Jared's situation.

00:21:54.000 Let's say he's making $1,000 a month.

00:21:57.000 You would look at that at 50% and say, well, here's the pie.

00:21:59.000 That's his share.

00:22:00.000 That's fair.

00:22:02.000 Whereas conservatism says, well, hold on, we want to increase this pie so that he can make five, six, seven thousand dollars a month, whatever it is.

00:22:08.000 Even though he'll be making a smaller slice of the overall pie, that pie from thousands goes to millions.

00:22:13.000 Now the ism is, do you see the economy as a fixed pie, as a fixed size, and everyone is getting their piece?

00:22:21.000 Ironically enough, socialism, that leftist view, is very selfish.

00:22:24.000 It's very hopeless, right?

00:22:26.000 Or, and it also creates an entitlement mindset, because if you think there's only so much to go around, I better get my slice.

00:22:32.000 Or, the ism, conservatism, federalism, do you see the economy, do you see the world as a living, breathing, growing ecosystem that thrives with innovation, with creativity, with hard work?

00:22:45.000 If you see it that way, you're not so worried about, well, I need my percentage, period.

00:22:50.000 I need to get mine.

00:22:51.000 You're thinking, man, how can I grow this piece of pie?

00:22:54.000 How can I grow this pie for everybody?

00:22:57.000 Well enough, all of a sudden you're looking out for the best interest of everybody.

00:23:01.000 The bigger the pie for everybody else, the better you do.

00:23:04.000 Whereas in socialism, leftism, you just want your peace.

00:23:08.000 You can't even have brain storage for this idea that you could possibly grow it.

00:23:15.000 And that's what's so important.

00:23:16.000 And that's what the Bernie people don't get.

00:23:18.000 And that's what young leftists don't get.

00:23:20.000 Get yours.

00:23:21.000 Get your piece.

00:23:22.000 No.

00:23:22.000 Go out there and create more.

00:23:24.000 If you look at the GDP, if you look at how bigger, how much bigger the economy is, it's unbelievable.

00:23:31.000 Who cares if you have a percentage that's fair?

00:23:33.000 If you're making ten times as much...

00:23:36.000 If you're helping ten times as many people.

00:23:38.000 That's why the ism matters.

00:23:40.000 It doesn't mean that you should be dogmatic.

00:23:42.000 I hate any kind of dogmatic thinking.

00:23:44.000 But you do have to have a baseline filter through which you run issues in the world.

00:23:50.000 If you're just looking at everything going, well, okay, I guess that seems fair.

00:23:54.000 Why is he only getting 10% if he was getting 15%?

00:23:58.000 Well, what would you rather have?

00:23:59.000 Would you rather have 50% of $10,000 or would you rather have 10%?

00:24:04.000 Of a million dollars.

00:24:05.000 I'm using extreme numbers to make a point.

00:24:07.000 But that's how companies grow.

00:24:08.000 That's how economies grow.

00:24:10.000 And the ism is important.

00:24:13.000 The first filter it goes through needs to be, okay, how do I view the world?

00:24:17.000 And that'll change everything.

00:24:19.000 Also, there's one that's in line with actual economics.

00:24:22.000 Sally Cohn, after this, speaking of debate, that'll be fun.

00:24:25.000 That'll be fun!

00:24:25.000 It'll be fun.

00:24:26.000 Now it's time to play America's favorite game show, Spot the Firearm.

00:24:42.000 The rules are simple.

00:24:43.000 One of these images is a real firearm.

00:24:46.000 The other is a BB gun replica.

00:24:49.000 You have precisely five seconds to guess which one is real.

00:24:54.000 Are you ready?

00:24:55.000 Let's go!

00:24:58.000 And your partner's dead Alright, glad to be back Glad to have this next guest.

00:25:27.000 I know everyone's going to say, well, you're just trying to do it to be polite.

00:25:30.000 No, I've known her for a while.

00:25:31.000 We were at Fox News at the same time.

00:25:33.000 We disagree on nearly everything, but she's a gamer.

00:25:36.000 She stands in the pocket and she trades. 1.00

00:25:37.000 You can follow her on Twitter.

00:25:39.000 She's a CNN contributor, at Sally Cohn, K-O-H-N. Thank you for being here.

00:25:45.000 Hey, totally thrilled to be here.

00:25:46.000 I think we probably actually, in truth, agree on more than we disagree.

00:25:49.000 We just disagree on the political things everybody fights about.

00:25:53.000 Well, I think...

00:25:54.000 You know, Coke versus Pepsi, right?

00:25:56.000 What do you think?

00:25:57.000 I don't drink either, but my wife swears that Pepsi is an invention of Satan. 0.99

00:26:02.000 Oh, never mind.

00:26:03.000 Really?

00:26:04.000 You like Pepsi?

00:26:05.000 Well, actually, that's not true.

00:26:06.000 I really prefer Coke, but my in-law's family, they're all big Pepsi people, so I'm sort of, I have to say publicly, Pepsi.

00:26:12.000 Okay, before we get into politics.

00:26:14.000 But you know what I mean?

00:26:15.000 Before we get into politics, this is a perfect example of little, young, skeptical...

00:26:18.000 Which production!

00:26:19.000 Yes!

00:26:19.000 No, little, young, skeptical Stephen was...

00:26:21.000 Remember they did the Pepsi Challenge?

00:26:22.000 That was their marketing ploy?

00:26:23.000 Oh, my God.

00:26:24.000 Because we're the same age, so yeah.

00:26:27.000 I was on Grand Bend, Ontario.

00:26:28.000 I wasn't even a teenager, and they did this down there in the beach.

00:26:31.000 And I go, oh, so here's a, which one do you prefer?

00:26:33.000 I was looking at them and I go, I prefer the one that you iced first. 1.00

00:26:36.000 They go, what?

00:26:37.000 I go, one of them was warm, one of them was cold.

00:26:38.000 Let me guess, the iced one was Pepsi?

00:26:39.000 And they're like, okay, moving along, kid.

00:26:42.000 And we know, we could have predicted right then.

00:26:46.000 Exactly.

00:26:47.000 I'm so old.

00:26:49.000 I remember actually, like, at sleepovers doing the Coke-Pepsi challenge, like, for fun with friends.

00:26:55.000 I mean, you know, this was before the internet, kids.

00:26:57.000 Yes.

00:26:58.000 We didn't have anything to do.

00:27:00.000 And then one of them, just don't play with Bill Cosby.

00:27:02.000 That's the general rule of thumb.

00:27:04.000 The Coke or Pepsi challenge.

00:27:05.000 And people are going to get mad.

00:27:06.000 Was that a rape joke? 1.00

00:27:07.000 It's a Bill Cosby. 0.84

00:27:08.000 Bill Cosby.

00:27:09.000 Drugs people joke.

00:27:10.000 So, okay.

00:27:11.000 Let's talk about a few things.

00:27:12.000 So, we wanted to have you on for a while, obviously.

00:27:15.000 I have been very much at the forefront, coming from Quebec, coming from a school with a lot of Muslims, against Islam, the theology, the philosophy, period, on the internet. 1.00

00:27:26.000 Yes.

00:27:27.000 Not all Muslims. 0.99

00:27:28.000 Islam.

00:27:29.000 Just like atheists are against... 1.00

00:27:31.000 No, not all Muslims, but particularly Muhammad.

00:27:34.000 Now, you wrote a piece, and I want to make sure that I don't misrepresent you, so I want you to say it in your own words.

00:27:39.000 You wrote a piece...

00:27:39.000 I'm still already confused, but go ahead.

00:27:41.000 You wrote a piece on Sharia law.

00:27:43.000 You get a lot of backlash saying that Donald Trump is misrepresenting a lot of Muslims, that there are a lot of progressives who support Sharia law.

00:27:51.000 There are progressive versions of Sharia law.

00:27:53.000 Am I getting that wrong?

00:27:53.000 Hang on.

00:27:55.000 Let's back up.

00:27:56.000 Because, you know...

00:27:57.000 I do think words matter, right?

00:27:59.000 So Sharia, the concept of Sharia, right?

00:28:02.000 And by the way, let's just start right here and people are going to be like, well, why are you talking about this?

00:28:06.000 Well, because I do think it's our job to, you know, educate ourselves and learn as much as we can.

00:28:11.000 And my understanding on this has evolved as a, you know, liberal Jew.

00:28:16.000 I didn't grow up knowing much about Islam and have tried to learn.

00:28:20.000 And so Sharia as a concept...

00:28:23.000 It's about faith.

00:28:25.000 It's about beliefs.

00:28:25.000 It's the whole spiritual code of Islam.

00:28:29.000 It includes everything from giving to charity, to praying three times a day, to not eating certain things, to this and that and the other.

00:28:39.000 By the way, there's no one version of Islamic beliefs or what it means to be a good Muslim written down.

00:28:45.000 There's not just one single version of it.

00:28:47.000 There's all different kinds of arguments and interpretations.

00:28:49.000 That's number one.

00:28:50.000 A couple things.

00:28:51.000 There aren't a number.

00:28:53.000 There are four schools of Sharia law.

00:28:55.000 There are about four.

00:28:56.000 And two main ones.

00:28:58.000 The only point is whether we can get into this version of Sharia, and there's this version of Sharia.

00:29:07.000 The simple point is, and I cite the example in the article, that my progressive, feminist, lesbian, Muslim friend believes in Sharia.

00:29:18.000 So a secular Muslim.

00:29:20.000 She wears a hijab.

00:29:21.000 She observes Ramadan.

00:29:23.000 I mean, she believes in Sharia, in a version of Sharia.

00:29:26.000 And so the only point there is when, you know, folks on the right say, well, we should ban all Muslims who believe in quote-unquote Sharia.

00:29:33.000 Well, you...

00:29:35.000 I mean, depending on how you define your terms, you can't do that.

00:29:38.000 All Muslims believe in Sharia.

00:29:40.000 So I agree with you.

00:29:40.000 Well, hold on a second.

00:29:41.000 Words matter.

00:29:42.000 So we're talking about Sharia law.

00:29:45.000 That's what we're talking about.

00:29:46.000 Now, you can talk about Sharia and talk about how some people misconstrue it as a personal path, but there are two things we need to get into.

00:29:53.000 The pragmatic, and we'll get into that, into countries that implement any kind of Sharia law, and then the philosophical.

00:29:59.000 But to say that Sharia has historically been interpreted as, like people try to say with Islam, it means submission, it's about a personal struggle, or jihad.

00:30:07.000 No, jihad has very clearly been interpreted as a very physical war, whether some people talk about an internal struggle, jihad.

00:30:14.000 And Sharia law is something where we have enough legal precedent, you can look to any country in the world right now, any country that implements Sharia law.

00:30:21.000 And you can even look to countries in the, you can even look to the UK, you can look to Europe, or anywhere it's implemented, it has been a net negative.

00:30:29.000 Universally for human rights.

00:30:30.000 Would we agree on that?

00:30:31.000 Yeah, look, I mean, let's be super clear on something here.

00:30:35.000 I am against any version, iteration, incarnation, moral, legal, conceptual, theological of Islam that calls for the oppression of women, the condemnation of gay people, and the putting of one faith over another. 0.91

00:30:57.000 By the way, I'm against fundamentalism in general.

00:30:59.000 That's all Islam. 1.00

00:31:01.000 That is all Islam. 1.00

00:31:05.000 It doesn't mean all of them are throwing gays off the roof. 0.99

00:31:07.000 It doesn't mean they're all beating their wives. 0.98

00:31:09.000 But by your own standards, by your own standards that you apply to Christians, that is all Islam as far as women are not treated well, gay people are not treated well. 0.92

00:31:18.000 Even the most moderate interpretations of Sharia law are gross violations of human rights.

00:31:22.000 Wait a second, wait a second.

00:31:23.000 Okay.

00:31:24.000 So, let's for a second put Sharia law as a concept.

00:31:27.000 And again, by the way, you know, you want to go down the wormhole in this, there are whole debates about, because again, there's no, like, you can't go find the Sharia law book, right?

00:31:34.000 Yes, you can.

00:31:34.000 It's not like a constitution.

00:31:36.000 Yes, you can.

00:31:37.000 You have the Hanbali school of thought, and you have the Maliki school of thought. 0.68

00:31:39.000 So you can look at the worst, like the Hanbali, where you look at Saudi Arabia, a lot of these Gulf states, and even other countries. 0.70

00:31:45.000 No, hold on, this really matters.

00:31:46.000 There is consistent application everywhere.

00:31:49.000 Everywhere Sharia law is implemented. 0.63

00:31:51.000 The next person you should have on your show is a man named Abdullahi Al Naim, who's the foremost scholar on the practice and implementation of Sharia law around the world.

00:32:00.000 And if you talk to him, he'll say, look, there's 50 different versions of it.

00:32:04.000 Because even the school that says, you know, we're practicing this version, will they leave out Hold on a second.

00:32:08.000 This is what matters.

00:32:09.000 It matters when you look anywhere there is Islamic... 1.00

00:32:11.000 No, hold on.

00:32:12.000 It matters anywhere you look that there is Islamic government.

00:32:12.000 This matters.

00:32:14.000 Okay?

00:32:15.000 Anywhere that you look that there is Islamic government based on Sharia.

00:32:18.000 Anywhere in the world.

00:32:19.000 It's bad.

00:32:19.000 Can we at least...

00:32:20.000 It's something that we should not even remotely accept in the United States.

00:32:24.000 So, hold on.

00:32:24.000 Okay.

00:32:25.000 This is important.

00:32:26.000 Now, are you also aware that every single mosque can act as a Sharia court?

00:32:31.000 Because you've written about this in your column.

00:32:33.000 They can't have a mosque exist if there isn't an imam who's there who is capable of performing Sharia law. 1.00

00:32:39.000 Here's the issue I'm having.

00:32:41.000 Hold on, but that's important.

00:32:42.000 I understand where you're going.

00:32:44.000 Here's the issue I'm having.

00:32:46.000 I have no problem agreeing with you.

00:32:49.000 Strongly.

00:32:51.000 That the implementation of any version of a right-wing, totalitarian, misogynistic, homophobic...

00:33:00.000 There's nothing right-wing about totalitarian Islamic regimes.

00:33:06.000 Nothing.

00:33:06.000 Okay, whatever words you want to use, I'm against it, okay?

00:33:09.000 Okay.

00:33:10.000 But we both know there's nothing right-wing about ISIS or Turkey or Egypt or Malaysia or Morocco.

00:33:16.000 Any of those moderate places, nothing right-wing about them.

00:33:17.000 Very far left in their application of government and overbearing government.

00:33:21.000 That's fascinating.

00:33:22.000 Okay, I would call them fundamentalists.

00:33:23.000 So I would call them, if you want to call them modern versus traditionalists, you want to go in that direction?

00:33:27.000 I want to make it clear.

00:33:28.000 So Sally Cohn agrees with me.

00:33:30.000 I tend to think of as regressive.

00:33:32.000 I connote with a more conservative ideology.

00:33:36.000 So you agree with me that every single Islamic country in the world has a regressive fundamentalist system of law? 0.91

00:33:44.000 No!

00:33:44.000 Name me one that doesn't.

00:33:47.000 Listen.

00:33:48.000 One that doesn't.

00:33:48.000 One example.

00:33:49.000 This is important.

00:33:49.000 If you're going to talk about Sharia law, one country that has a Sharia law example that you would be okay with.

00:33:54.000 Hang on.

00:33:55.000 You're doing this thing.

00:33:56.000 Can we just stick with one thing at a time?

00:33:58.000 Can we just do that for me?

00:33:59.000 Because my brain isn't as big as yours.

00:34:01.000 So give me a second.

00:34:01.000 Don't do that.

00:34:02.000 Here, one thing.

00:34:03.000 One thing real quick before you do that.

00:34:04.000 You've waded into an audience who's much more intelligent than the Avril Cable News viewer.

00:34:08.000 So you doing a little wordplay is not going to work, especially if they have a rewind button.

00:34:12.000 You're very smart.

00:34:14.000 I am happy, right?

00:34:15.000 And again, bearing in mind, I am not the expert on Islamic theology, nor Islamic states, nor, frankly, being a Muslim, because I'm not one, right?

00:34:23.000 Right, but you wrote about it.

00:34:24.000 Here's where I'm stuck.

00:34:25.000 We can go then talk about the difference between Tunisia and Morocco and, you know, Indonesia, as opposed to Saudi Arabia, which I think is a horrible state that the United States should never be supporting, and we can talk about the nuances in between. 0.73

00:34:37.000 Happy to do that.

00:34:38.000 I'm still confused.

00:34:39.000 Mm-hmm.

00:34:40.000 As to how you can't say, okay, the problem is fundamentalist Islam, extremist Islam, that's a problem. 0.74

00:34:51.000 And you get from there to all Islam, all Muslims.

00:34:54.000 Stephen, what do you do about my friend, who I described to you as a progressive, feminist, gay Muslim, who is the type of Muslim we should support?

00:35:02.000 Can I answer your question?

00:35:02.000 Okay.

00:35:03.000 I'm not nearly as concerned with a radical outlier in a feminist, lesbian, Muslim girl who wears a hijab.

00:35:11.000 I am concerned with every place in the history of the world Sharia law hasn't implemented, where it exists today, what's happening in Europe, and what's happening in mosques across the United States. 0.88

00:35:19.000 This is not radicalism.

00:35:20.000 This is not fundamentalism.

00:35:22.000 You wrote in your piece, I want to bring up your own words here because it's important, you wrote that they can have their own courts in their mosques, provided it doesn't supersede the Constitution.

00:35:30.000 It is incompatible with our current system of rights in the United States.

00:35:34.000 Do you know what happens in a Sharia court?

00:35:35.000 I didn't actually write that, by the way, but okay, go on.

00:35:39.000 Well, you wrote that like Jewish law, like Jewish law are different Christian courts.

00:35:44.000 You wrote about they settle disputes, domestic disputes.

00:35:47.000 I have this piece right up here from CNN. No, no, I'm reading it too.

00:35:50.000 I've got it in front of me too.

00:35:51.000 Okay, so you would be against it then.

00:35:52.000 You would be for deporting... 1.00

00:35:55.000 Hold on a second, hold on a second, because I've got it right here in front of me.

00:35:56.000 This is really important.

00:35:57.000 This is important.

00:35:58.000 It is not fundamentalism where this occurs at every single mosque across the country.

00:36:02.000 Is it fundamentalism that Muhammad beat his wife, their founder? 0.95

00:36:05.000 Is it fundamentalism that he called for the deaths of Christians and Jews? 0.98

00:36:09.000 Is that fundamentalism? 0.99

00:36:10.000 Because that's my problem.

00:36:11.000 Right back with Muhammad. 0.96

00:36:12.000 So, Stephen, there are fundamentalists, I'm Jewish, there are, I live in New York City, there are fundamentalist, whatever word you want to use, fundamentalist, more conservative, small-c conservative, conventional, you know, traditionalist Jews in New York City and around the United States who believe that I am a sinner, who would like to see, you know, legal, if not physical punishment imposed on me for being gay.

00:36:39.000 I am against that.

00:36:41.000 I am offended by that.

00:36:43.000 I am any number of things about that.

00:36:45.000 Don't want to see him deported.

00:36:47.000 That's not mainstream Judaism. 0.73

00:36:48.000 It's the difference between curly sideburns and bombs.

00:36:51.000 Here's my confusion, which is, first of all, I can agree with you that there needs to be a broader reformation in Islam.

00:36:58.000 And by the way, that's why we should be supporting...

00:37:00.000 Hundreds of millions of Muslims who support apostasy laws, who support spousal abuse laws. 0.92

00:37:05.000 Second of all, see, but you're...

00:37:07.000 The reason you get those arguments, you get those conclusions from assuming that they mean by Sharia what you mean by Sharia, which was...

00:37:14.000 No, no, no.

00:37:14.000 Hold on a second.

00:37:15.000 This matters.

00:37:17.000 Sally, hold on. 0.81

00:37:18.000 You're jumping all around.

00:37:19.000 On individual issues, these Muslims say, yes, I should support Sharia. 1.00

00:37:22.000 And then, in addendum, hundreds of millions of Muslims say, I support apostasy laws. 0.99

00:37:27.000 I support anti-homosexuality laws. 0.99

00:37:29.000 Hundreds of millions of Muslims.

00:37:31.000 Hold on a second, hold on a second.

00:37:32.000 Could it be, would it stand to reason that if hundreds of millions of Muslims, a majority of Muslims support Sharia in some fashion or another, and then hundreds of millions of Muslims say, we support apostasy laws, we support spousal abuse laws, would it stand to reason that maybe that would be A, not radical, and B, directly tied to their support for Sharia.

00:37:52.000 Hundreds You brought up Jews or Christians. 0.71

00:38:11.000 There aren't hundreds of millions of Jews who support this.

00:38:17.000 If they are all, as what you just said is true, if the notion that they are all peaceful, that they are majority peaceful, peace-loving, moderate human beings, if that's an aberration, which is what you said, why isn't there terrorism all around us?

00:38:31.000 Why am I still here?

00:38:32.000 Oh my gosh, I've walked down the street a day at least ten times and no one's killed me, and there's like...

00:38:37.000 Yeah, well, a couple things. 0.77

00:38:38.000 It does happen all the time, and I think you have a lowered bar for them because you have a much higher standard of Christians, which you would consider a violation of rights, and Muslims would be far worse. 1.00

00:38:46.000 But I want to keep you on.

00:38:47.000 We have to go to this break for a corporate overlord, Sally Cohn. 1.00

00:38:50.000 We appreciate her standing in the pocket and coming on.

00:38:52.000 We'll be right back.

00:38:53.000 Be right back.

00:38:54.000 Okay, so this next so this next segment, we're excited, right?

00:39:17.000 For the guest, he's a longtime fan of the show.

00:39:19.000 Who is it?

00:39:20.000 Member of the Wolf Pack. 0.98

00:39:21.000 Who f***ing is it? 0.99

00:39:22.000 Okay, Sargon of a Cat. 0.99

00:39:23.000 Are you there?

00:39:25.000 I wouldn't so much say a fan.

00:39:27.000 I mean, maybe I used to be, but then you kind of declared kind of everything was racist.

00:39:32.000 And then I was looking back, and you were saying, like, everything was racist back then as well.

00:39:37.000 And I'm thinking, why did I ever watch you guys?

00:39:39.000 Okay, right?

00:39:40.000 This is what he's trying to do.

00:39:41.000 He's trying to stand back, where he comes and says, oh, I was a long-time fan, but you said something racist.

00:39:46.000 Of course!

00:39:47.000 Oh, it's a long-time fan before. 1.00

00:39:49.000 That's bullshit! 1.00

00:39:51.000 That's bullshit! 1.00

00:39:52.000 What if that was actually racist? 1.00

00:39:54.000 Get off the phone, you bearded fat f**k! 1.00

00:39:58.000 I've been really trying to diet. 1.00

00:40:00.000 Yeah, well, try harder! 0.94

00:40:02.000 I'm f**king better than you! 0.95

00:40:05.000 What's that even mean? 1.00

00:40:06.000 You Brexiting Infowars f**k! 0.99

00:40:09.000 Right, go back to Infowars! 0.99

00:40:11.000 I got turned down by Infowars.

00:40:13.000 Okay, right, why don't you do us a favor?

00:40:15.000 Come on. 1.00

00:40:19.000 You are bullsh**! 1.00

00:40:21.000 Did you have a stroke? 1.00

00:40:22.000 No, it's not f**king official! 0.98

00:40:25.000 How clever I am with it.

00:40:26.000 Okay, listen, right now we hear we have an image.

00:40:28.000 Okay, have you with a racist sign? 1.00

00:40:31.000 Sir God, that's bullsh**! 0.99

00:40:32.000 That's not even me. 0.99

00:40:34.000 That's clearly a Photoshop.

00:40:36.000 And...

00:40:37.000 Is that Al Borland?

00:40:39.000 Are you...

00:40:43.000 Are you body shaming me?

00:40:45.000 No, it's facial shaming!

00:40:47.000 You don't even...

00:40:48.000 You don't even... 0.99

00:40:49.000 You don't even f***ing know your shame! 0.99

00:40:51.000 Whatever takes the attention off your mustache, sweetheart. 0.99

00:40:54.000 Okay, that's sexist! 0.97

00:40:55.000 That's sexist and that's racist! 1.00

00:40:57.000 I'm an idiot! 1.00

00:40:58.000 The lame woman has mustaches! 1.00

00:40:59.000 That's bulls**t! 1.00

00:41:00.000 No! 0.99

00:41:02.000 No, you! 1.00

00:41:03.000 Oh my god, seriously, what do you think we can get?

00:41:06.000 What do you think we can get on? 1.00

00:41:07.000 You stupid fascist! 1.00

00:41:10.000 I am on the Young Turks. 1.00

00:41:12.000 I'm a co-host.

00:41:13.000 I'm a co-host, okay? 0.99

00:41:15.000 Okay, that means I'm a strong woman and I say f*** a lot. 0.99

00:41:18.000 I'm f***ing better than you. 0.99

00:41:20.000 Okay, okay, okay. 0.99

00:41:22.000 It's the sexes and racists against Armanians. 0.53

00:41:25.000 All the women, they all have mustaches. 1.00

00:41:27.000 I know. 0.99

00:41:28.000 I know, it's bulls***. 0.98

00:41:29.000 You can't control it. 0.98

00:41:31.000 That's bulls***. 1.00

00:41:31.000 F*** you and your breasts are bulls***. 1.00

00:41:34.000 You're a strange animal. 1.00

00:41:38.000 That's what I know. 1.00

00:41:41.000 But you're a strange animal. 0.93

00:41:46.000 I got to follow. 0.52

00:41:47.000 Oh, I'm in the speedy distance.

00:41:51.000 Glad to be back.

00:41:52.000 Our guest's camera now is getting all fuzzy, so fix that.

00:41:56.000 Fix that about yourself.

00:41:57.000 At Sally Cohn, CNN contributor.

00:41:59.000 I want to be clear here.

00:42:01.000 This is what I was referencing where you talked about how Sharia law can also mean what it does in England, where Sharia councils in some place hold sway over things such as marriage and divorce of British Muslims.

00:42:09.000 Yet those councils are ultimately and rightly subjected to secular laws of the state.

00:42:14.000 However, that's untrue.

00:42:18.000 Go again?

00:42:19.000 Sorry.

00:42:19.000 That is untrue.

00:42:21.000 That explained to me the National Council that the government of England has set up to...

00:42:25.000 Hold on, let me explain to you.

00:42:27.000 75% of Muslim marriages in the UK are actually not legally recognized.

00:42:31.000 A woman in the UK, if they get married in a way that is not legally recognized...

00:42:34.000 There's a vast majority in the UK in Sharia courts.

00:42:37.000 They have no recourse.

00:42:38.000 They can't initiate divorce. 0.87

00:42:39.000 Their husband merely needs to say divorce, divorce, divorce.

00:42:41.000 Stephen, I believe it.

00:42:42.000 This is mainstream, Sally.

00:42:43.000 Listen, hey, and that, again, and that's why, as I wrote in the piece, I endorse...

00:42:48.000 The government of the UK, which, by the way, is doing so with Imams and Muslim scholars, going in and reviewing the practice of those Sharia courts to make sure that they're subject to the Constitution.

00:43:01.000 Would you argue that the UK is better off right now?

00:43:03.000 I think it should be subject to the Constitution.

00:43:05.000 Here's my point, Sally.

00:43:06.000 This is important.

00:43:07.000 This is important.

00:43:07.000 Let me go back to...

00:43:08.000 You said you wanted to get into the nuance.

00:43:10.000 You're trying to say all Muslims are right. 1.00

00:43:12.000 You said you wanted to get into the nuance of Tunisia, of Malaysia.

00:43:14.000 You said we can do that.

00:43:15.000 So we did your first thing.

00:43:17.000 So I want to get into that.

00:43:18.000 Are you...

00:43:19.000 No, no, hold on a second.

00:43:19.000 Let me ask you...

00:43:20.000 This is really important.

00:43:21.000 Let me do this.

00:43:22.000 Do you believe that it has been better for the UK or has it been a net loss of civil rights for many women across the UK with the encroachment of Islam and Sharia? 1.00

00:43:33.000 Well, let me just dig into my deep knowledge and experience as a British person.

00:43:38.000 I don't know.

00:43:39.000 It's far worse. 0.90

00:43:40.000 Record rape. 0.99

00:43:41.000 Record rape. 0.99

00:43:42.000 Record spousal abuse. 0.79

00:43:43.000 Record terrorism.

00:43:44.000 Let's get Mona Siddiqui, the woman who is heading... 1.00

00:43:46.000 Sally, this isn't fair.

00:43:47.000 Sally, it's you and I talking.

00:43:49.000 No, no, but here's what I'm saying, Stephen.

00:43:52.000 In the UK, a Muslim scholar, a Muslim woman, a feminist Muslim woman is heading the government-led inquiry into Sharia courts to see if they are messed up or not. 0.76

00:44:01.000 So you can't blame all Islam.

00:44:04.000 And the reason for that would be...

00:44:06.000 We need to make these courts subject to the Constitution.

00:44:09.000 So there you have...

00:44:10.000 And the reason for that would be why?

00:44:12.000 Hold on, Sally.

00:44:13.000 Why now do they feel they need to do this?

00:44:13.000 Why?

00:44:15.000 But you can't blame Islam because you have these Muslim leaders who are trying to... 0.98

00:44:20.000 Yes, you can, and I do entirely blame Islam. 0.95

00:44:22.000 Why not make that about progressive tradition, you know, moving forward in a religion versus regressive norms?

00:44:28.000 Because they don't want to move forward.

00:44:30.000 You look at Turkey as an example.

00:44:31.000 Hold on a second.

00:44:32.000 You look at Malaysia as an example, with a record number of churches, right?

00:44:35.000 These are places that you, I've been there at Fox News, when you and Leftist Progressive held out Turkey for a long time as a great example, a bastion of secular rights in the Islamic world.

00:44:44.000 Malaysia, Indonesia, they've all regressed. 1.00

00:44:46.000 It's impossible.

00:44:47.000 Islam has never progressed. 1.00

00:44:48.000 And it can't progress because of the founder of the feast, Muhammad, and the Sharia law, regardless of the interpretation that has been created thereof.

00:44:57.000 Let me go back to this point.

00:44:58.000 This is really important.

00:44:59.000 This is pivotal.

00:44:59.000 Is there a single Islamic country in the world where you think that there are equal rights for women, gay people, apostates?

00:45:07.000 One.

00:45:08.000 Because it's important.

00:45:09.000 There needs to be a track record to support what you're saying.

00:45:11.000 Eight Muslim nations have elected a woman head of state.

00:45:11.000 Okay.

00:45:15.000 And last I checked, the United States hasn't.

00:45:17.000 Okay.

00:45:17.000 Well, let me counter that with this.

00:45:19.000 There have been plenty of gay and transgender people appointed to cabinets who didn't have what you claimed were civil rights with marriage, bathroom rights for a long time.

00:45:26.000 I'm not just reading.

00:45:27.000 You just asked for an example, so I just gave you one.

00:45:29.000 I didn't ask you that, though.

00:45:30.000 I asked you any place that has any rights that would be considered equal rights.

00:45:35.000 Not if they elected a woman. 0.97

00:45:36.000 No, if I'm not mistaken, I have to look this up.

00:45:38.000 The first country that decriminalized homosexuality in the world was actually a Muslim country.

00:45:42.000 Hang on.

00:45:42.000 Right now, I'm asking if there's any place on earth, right now, where you would consider them to have progressive equal rights.

00:45:50.000 The things that you would criticize the Westboro Baptist Church, as you have a church of 12 members who are inbred, but an entire country.

00:45:57.000 Is there one?

00:45:59.000 Pick one.

00:46:00.000 Think of.

00:46:01.000 You win. 0.99

00:46:01.000 Hey, by the way, they're also treating gay people pretty badly in Uganda, and that's because of the Christians. 0.99

00:46:06.000 That's because Christianity's influence. 0.97

00:46:08.000 No, no, no.

00:46:09.000 Comparing tribal...

00:46:10.000 No, no, no, no.

00:46:11.000 This is important.

00:46:12.000 It's conflating in issues.

00:46:13.000 Comparing tribalism to modern, advanced countries that have systematically decided to deny rights in a very violent, theologically-based way is not...

00:46:23.000 Oh, I see.

00:46:23.000 It's not fair.

00:46:24.000 So the only way to reconcile Uganda as a discriminatory nation is to just call them backwards and tribal.

00:46:31.000 Yes.

00:46:32.000 It has nothing to do with Christianity.

00:46:35.000 It has nothing to do with Christianity.

00:46:36.000 It has to do with being a third world country. 0.89

00:46:38.000 Yes.

00:46:39.000 Is Egypt a third world country?

00:46:42.000 UAE? Is Qatar?

00:46:44.000 Well, it's not fair.

00:46:46.000 Let's take Uganda compared to modern Muslim countries. 1.00

00:46:49.000 Churches here in the United States and Republican leaders here in the United States tied to conservative Christian interests helped push for the criminalization of homosexuality in Uganda.

00:47:00.000 So there was American Christian influence in that.

00:47:04.000 And look, if we want to go back, how long do we have to go back in the United States to look at when Christianity still, by the way?

00:47:10.000 Sally, you haven't answered my question.

00:47:12.000 I don't know, but if your bar here...

00:47:14.000 It's one simple...

00:47:15.000 Steven, let me make a sentence out.

00:47:17.000 No, but you need to answer the question first.

00:47:17.000 Can I do that?

00:47:19.000 I'm trying, man.

00:47:20.000 One country, is there one?

00:47:21.000 Can we just say no and then continue?

00:47:23.000 I said no.

00:47:23.000 I answered you, I said no.

00:47:24.000 Okay.

00:47:25.000 And I'm also saying that if the bar, if your bar, and I love that bar, right?

00:47:30.000 Human rights.

00:47:31.000 I completely support that as a bar for, you know, modern progression of rights and justice around the world.

00:47:31.000 That's an example.

00:47:38.000 Last I checked, first of all, I can't help but be struck.

00:47:42.000 And I love you.

00:47:43.000 I love your not gay shirt.

00:47:44.000 I know you are a supporter of gay rights.

00:47:45.000 But you have to know that your side of the aisle has not historically been the ones going, woohoo, let's get gay rights. 0.99

00:47:51.000 I think comparing a penis cake to throwing them off of rooftops is silly. 0.99

00:47:59.000 You know what? 1.00

00:48:00.000 You're right.

00:48:00.000 It's not the same thing.

00:48:01.000 But it's not like you get to wave the big gay flag and be like, hey, we're so progressive.

00:48:06.000 Sure you do. 0.95

00:48:07.000 And by the way...

00:48:08.000 Sure you do. 0.98

00:48:09.000 And I'm doing it more than the lesbian liberal. 0.95

00:48:11.000 You're going to keep waving your flag, right, about the Pew polling on Muslims. 0.91

00:48:17.000 No, that's not what I did.

00:48:18.000 You said that 30% of Trump supporters in Carolina...

00:48:22.000 Don't toss me in with Trump supporters.

00:48:23.000 Again, it matters because we have to go to a break.

00:48:25.000 So let me wrap this up.

00:48:26.000 And then we'll do a web extension.

00:48:27.000 Okay. 0.91

00:48:27.000 There were not that many people who wanted to, you know, kill people for being gay in this country, too. 0.91

00:48:32.000 The issue is progress.

00:48:33.000 It's not one religion or another.

00:48:35.000 They all can do better.

00:48:37.000 Except one hasn't, and it's hundreds of millions of people who refuse to.

00:48:41.000 And I wish that you would support, consistently support the progressive rights.

00:48:47.000 Hundreds of millions more who do.

00:48:49.000 No, not even a majority.

00:48:51.000 Not even a majority of Muslims would be as tolerant to you in the way you're complaining about Christian conservatives.

00:48:56.000 It would be far less tolerant.

00:48:57.000 Not even a majority of the 1.6 billion Muslims.

00:49:00.000 Okay, Sally Cohn, we'll go to WebExCenter for people listening. 1.00

00:49:03.000 At Sally Cohn on Twitter, go to louderwithcredit.com where she's uncensored because she has a filthy, dirty mouth. 1.00

00:49:08.000 You'll hear it. 0.99

00:49:09.000 You will hear it and be appalled.

00:49:11.000 Stay tuned.

00:49:11.000 And now for the adventures of the White Privilege Boy.

00:49:35.000 Ah, hey there, boys.

00:49:36.000 Good to see you again.

00:49:37.000 What can I do you for?

00:49:38.000 Thanks, Mr.

00:49:39.000 MacArthur.

00:49:39.000 Well, you can start by giving us everything in the cash register.

00:49:43.000 Well, golly, is that a firearm you're pointing at me there?

00:49:46.000 Yeah.

00:49:47.000 Yeah, you know it.

00:49:48.000 I'm very disappointed in you, boys.

00:49:50.000 We don't care.

00:49:50.000 Empty it out.

00:49:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:53.000 Oh, I suppose boys will be boys.

00:49:55.000 I'm going to have to call the sheriff, you know, but you've got me for now.

00:49:58.000 Go ahead, take everything.

00:49:59.000 Thanks, Mr.

00:50:00.000 McArthur! 0.87

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00:50:08.000 Oh, those boys! 0.70

00:50:10.000 What pickle will they find themselves in next?

00:50:12.000 Stay tuned for next week's installment of Adventures of the White Privilege Boys.

00:50:17.000 I'm excited.

00:50:28.000 Glad to be back.

00:50:48.000 Second hour, that was Sally Cohn.

00:50:50.000 Oh, by the way, unveiling a new shirt.

00:50:52.000 Let me show people watching the video.

00:50:54.000 What do we got here?

00:50:55.000 Look at this.

00:50:58.000 There you go.

00:50:59.000 Crowder the Barbarian. 0.84

00:51:01.000 And see, you got Red Sonja is not gay Jared there. 0.99

00:51:05.000 Are you smuggling some raisins over there? 0.99

00:51:08.000 I look like Jennifer Aniston in Friends with the rubber nipples. 0.92

00:51:11.000 Yeah, like every episode. 0.97

00:51:12.000 I think those were fake rubber nipples. 0.83

00:51:15.000 I think they did.

00:51:16.000 Because Courtney Cox had them all the time, too.

00:51:17.000 Really?

00:51:18.000 Quite often.

00:51:18.000 Yeah.

00:51:19.000 Disgusting. 1.00

00:51:21.000 Horrible. 0.99

00:51:22.000 You know what I found Phoebe the most attractive? 1.00

00:51:24.000 Because she was funny.

00:51:25.000 Yeah, she was funnier.

00:51:26.000 She was way funnier.

00:51:27.000 I know, Courtney Cox, I like the character, I didn't find her funny.

00:51:30.000 Jennifer Aniston, I don't get it.

00:51:31.000 No, it drove me up a wall, Courtney Cox.

00:51:34.000 Anyway, this is going to be in the not-merchandise store when we go hashtag NeverDaily, so stop asking.

00:51:41.000 But we have a potential, what, four or five t-shirts now?

00:51:46.000 Yes.

00:51:47.000 Which is a figment of your imagination, this mug club?

00:51:49.000 Doesn't exist.

00:51:51.000 So, Sally Cohn.

00:51:52.000 I dig Sally Cohn.

00:51:53.000 I like her.

00:51:54.000 She can be funny.

00:51:55.000 Some people were saying that, Stephen, you kept saying this is important.

00:51:58.000 I did.

00:51:58.000 I repeated myself with that because it was important.

00:52:01.000 I do appreciate the drinking games that people play.

00:52:04.000 You know what I appreciate about Sally is she seems like, unlike some of my even hashtag SJW friends, she seems like she can maintain a relationship with Separate from her politics, which is hardly defined on the other side of the aisle.

00:52:18.000 It's true.

00:52:19.000 And you know what?

00:52:19.000 She's a genuinely kind person.

00:52:21.000 She's a genuinely caring person.

00:52:22.000 And that counts for something.

00:52:24.000 I have people on the right who we know, people who've been on this show, people who are big-name guests who are pricks.

00:52:30.000 So we have Kristen Bell release this video. 1.00

00:52:34.000 It was at HuffPo.

00:52:34.000 We covered it in the website.

00:52:36.000 I just think it's important.

00:52:38.000 I just think this is just a...

00:52:41.000 It is...

00:52:43.000 Leftist feminism crystallized for you, and it's been making the rounds. 1.00

00:52:48.000 And it's hilarious.

00:52:49.000 It's hysteric.

00:52:50.000 Women can be funny too. 1.00

00:52:52.000 So let's roll a couple of these clips.

00:52:53.000 It's, of course, centered around the pay gap.

00:52:56.000 Roll clip.

00:52:57.000 Is your company looking to maximize their output while cutting back on costs?

00:53:02.000 Why outsource all your production to faraway countries like India, China, and Narnia when we have the cheapest and best workforce right here in the good ol' U.S. of A. Women. 1.00

00:53:16.000 Do you notice something there?

00:53:17.000 Don't say it.

00:53:22.000 The very beginning of her video is the only argument that's needed against the premise of the video!

00:53:31.000 She doesn't understand.

00:53:32.000 We've talked about that all the time, right?

00:53:33.000 That's the first thing I thought when I watched it.

00:53:35.000 I'm like, does she not even know?

00:53:37.000 If you believe the pay gap myth, do you not realize if a corporation could save, could only spend 70 cents on every dollar in labor costs, They would never hire a man again.

00:53:48.000 And here's something from the left, too.

00:53:49.000 So it completely debunks the entire premise of her video.

00:53:51.000 And here's what's so funny about the left.

00:53:55.000 Corporations are evil.

00:53:56.000 Corporations trample on the little man.

00:53:58.000 They outsource jobs.

00:54:00.000 They'll do anything.

00:54:01.000 They'll do anything.

00:54:02.000 They'll destroy anybody.

00:54:03.000 They'll...

00:54:03.000 End any lives.

00:54:05.000 They'll destroy any households just to increase their profits by a single percentage point. 1.00

00:54:11.000 Except for when it comes to hiring women, they forego 23% profit because they hate vaginas. 1.00

00:54:19.000 Is it me? 0.99

00:54:22.000 Am I the other one seeing this?

00:54:23.000 No. 0.97

00:54:24.000 Are we supposed to believe that greedy Goldman Sachs, greedy corporate fat cats, they're so hateful, they're complete and total sociopaths, all successful wealthy business owners who've been vilified as the 1%, but they check that at the door because their priority, their greed is superseded by their hatred of women, that they're willing to forego 23%. 0.93

00:54:46.000 23% labor cost. 0.99

00:54:48.000 More if you just hire the black ones and the Indian ones. 1.00

00:54:50.000 If you just hire the black ones and the Indian ones. 1.00

00:54:52.000 Yep. 0.99

00:54:54.000 We have more clips.

00:54:55.000 Roll some more.

00:54:56.000 That's right.

00:54:56.000 With pink sourcing, women are a bargain at the workplace since you only have to pay them 77 cents on the dollar.

00:55:04.000 Roll the next clip.

00:55:06.000 Also, you don't have to pay for women's birth control. 1.00

00:55:09.000 And if they do get knocked up, when they leave to have the baby, you get off scot-free. 0.76

00:55:14.000 But don't worry, guys.

00:55:16.000 Your boner pills are still covered.

00:55:20.000 Also notice this is an entirely female cast, I'm assuming writing, and it's offensively unfunny. 1.00

00:55:27.000 Nothing like perpetuating the original stereotype, broads. 1.00

00:55:31.000 I think they must have stolen the Trevor Noah writers for an episode.

00:55:34.000 Our birth control isn't covered.

00:55:35.000 Your birth control is covered, but your boner pills, it's one of the, well, it's entirely, again, refuted by her very next point.

00:55:41.000 Let's roll that clip. 0.89

00:55:42.000 Best of all, you can promote literally anyone else besides them, especially if they're less qualified.

00:55:49.000 You're late for the three o'clock cuddle!

00:55:54.000 This is female writing for comedy. 1.00

00:55:56.000 I mean, they could have hired somebody funny to do it.

00:55:59.000 Do we have a clip about the...

00:56:00.000 What's the next one?

00:56:01.000 Is it the Tampax or the maternity leave? 1.00

00:56:03.000 We'll see.

00:56:04.000 After all, women don't even really want to be working anyway. 1.00

00:56:08.000 They'd rather be home, taking care of the family.

00:56:12.000 Yes!

00:56:14.000 Yes, that's true!

00:56:16.000 Exactly! 0.90

00:56:17.000 Everything they say, it requires a borderline retarded person to make these statements with zero self-awareness. 1.00

00:56:26.000 You can save money by hiring women for 70 cents in the dollar. 1.00

00:56:30.000 Oh, that flies in the face of all economics.

00:56:33.000 Oh, women want to be at home, right? 1.00

00:56:37.000 Sarcasm?

00:56:38.000 Of course!

00:56:39.000 Most of them want to be at home. 0.76

00:56:40.000 Women have wombs. 1.00

00:56:44.000 And they make babies!

00:56:45.000 And so, they're biologically driven too!

00:56:47.000 Yes!

00:56:48.000 Yes!

00:56:48.000 Next clip!

00:56:49.000 That was all we had.

00:56:50.000 That's all we had?

00:56:50.000 That was the end.

00:56:51.000 Ah, crap! 0.98

00:56:51.000 Well, what did they talk about maternity leave? 0.98

00:56:53.000 They talk about in there, oh, maternity leave.

00:56:54.000 If men, if men or women, you can bet that paternity leave would be paid. 0.96

00:56:59.000 No!

00:57:00.000 By the way, maternity leave is already a thing, okay? 0.98

00:57:04.000 It already exists.

00:57:05.000 Plenty of, plenty of companies do it.

00:57:08.000 More importantly, that's not a quality.

00:57:10.000 No men are out there demanding a year off with pay.

00:57:15.000 Unless you're a cop who's screwed up, you're not getting paid when you're on leave.

00:57:19.000 That's not a quality.

00:57:21.000 You want special favors.

00:57:22.000 She goes on to talk about a Tampax, but it's all made up for by free tampons in the bathroom, huh?

00:57:28.000 You just bitched about how there's not free birth control. 1.00

00:57:35.000 This is what's so wrong with this.

00:57:39.000 Kristen Bell, she is putting herself forward as an ambassador of women with this video. 1.00

00:57:45.000 This video portrays women as stupid, unfunny, and incapable of understanding basic economics. 1.00

00:57:52.000 It is the worst. 1.00

00:57:53.000 I was thinking about that because the only argument, if people aren't greedy, if these corporate overlords aren't greedy...

00:58:01.000 Then they're just hiring men because maybe they're possibly more skilled at the job.

00:58:07.000 But they can't actually go with that argument.

00:58:09.000 Have you thought about that?

00:58:10.000 That's a good point.

00:58:11.000 That's one they can't roll with because that would entirely diminish their argument that women are just as capable as men. 1.00

00:58:17.000 It's true.

00:58:17.000 It's like nowhere is it even factored into the equation that, yeah, men might be better for that job.

00:58:26.000 That's it.

00:58:27.000 That's it.

00:58:28.000 Unless they go to the argument that maybe just the white man is holding them down from the proper training or education.

00:58:33.000 Oh, come on now. 0.98

00:58:34.000 That's where they would go.

00:58:36.000 There are more women in college now. 1.00

00:58:39.000 There are more grants and scholarships for breasts.

00:58:42.000 There's more research that goes into breast cancer. 0.97

00:58:45.000 Boobs. 1.00

00:58:45.000 Nobody cares about wieners. 1.00

00:58:47.000 Everyone wants to save boobs. 1.00

00:58:48.000 Women want to save their boobs, and we want you to save your boobs. 1.00

00:58:53.000 It's a lot easier to get people on board with women with female causes. 1.00

00:58:57.000 As a matter of fact, I would love to do it either with Lauren Southern, maybe Tommy Loren, and just put out...

00:59:02.000 You want to know where women enjoy privilege more than any social media? 1.00

00:59:06.000 Same exact tweet from a male account.

00:59:08.000 She will get 50 times the interactions.

00:59:11.000 Speaking of female causes... 1.00

00:59:13.000 Gosh!

00:59:17.000 That's the stuff that gives children nightmares. 0.99

00:59:21.000 Like those clowns.

00:59:22.000 He keeps showing me a picture of Lena Dunham. 0.93

00:59:26.000 Lena Dunham, where she's obsessed with showing her body, this one.

00:59:29.000 And it's always front page salon, HuffPo. 0.99

00:59:32.000 It's like liberals are like, hey, Lena Dunham, Lena Dunham, hey, can you show us your tits? 1.00

00:59:36.000 We're kind of low on traffic. 0.99

00:59:38.000 It's all the time.

00:59:39.000 I think we can say that on air.

00:59:41.000 We were talking to my brother earlier, like, isn't it great?

00:59:44.000 We have a podcast going up tonight.

00:59:47.000 Where Lena Dunham has not done anything this week to comment on.

00:59:50.000 Isn't that great?

00:59:50.000 And then she interjected herself this morning with that.

00:59:54.000 With that.

00:59:55.000 It's just like Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:59:56.000 Stop.

00:59:57.000 They're propping her up.

00:59:58.000 Stop.

00:59:59.000 They're propping this girl up.

01:00:01.000 I mean, to prop her up, it has to be like Xerxes coming into the temple with everyone carrying... 0.94

01:00:07.000 I mean, Lena Dunham, let's be honest, that requires the people to do their deadlifts.

01:00:11.000 It is...

01:00:12.000 They constantly try and push these women as strong women.

01:00:16.000 And they're not.

01:00:16.000 They're the weakest among us.

01:00:17.000 Kristen Bell is a stupid person. 1.00

01:00:19.000 She doesn't understand economics. 1.00

01:00:21.000 She doesn't understand what the pay gap... 0.99

01:00:23.000 And here's the deal.

01:00:24.000 If you want to talk to young girls and you want to inspire them...

01:00:26.000 Why not put forward, like a Christine Hoff Summers, like a Carly Fiorina, why not put somebody who understands the economy, who understands running a business, who actually employs people, someone who wasn't just born with great looks and mediocre acting ability, and that's how they made their bones. 1.00

01:00:43.000 Carly Fiorina had to work for it. 1.00

01:00:45.000 Someone like, I don't know, I'm sure there's some female scientists. 1.00

01:00:53.000 I was going to...

01:00:55.000 You know, this is the thing.

01:00:56.000 I'm pretty quick.

01:00:57.000 That's one of my...

01:00:58.000 I'm able to think of things on my feet.

01:01:01.000 I couldn't think of a woman who... 1.00

01:01:04.000 They're all dead.

01:01:09.000 Like Rosa Parks is who I'd toss forward, but you can't trot her out to inspire little girls. 0.72

01:01:14.000 I don't know, but my point remains...

01:01:17.000 But Jared made a good point there.

01:01:19.000 It doesn't allow for the mere fact that sometimes men are better at the job, right?

01:01:23.000 Again, this goes back to the ism.

01:01:25.000 The ism, the pie chart.

01:01:26.000 Think about the pie chart that we showed earlier.

01:01:28.000 The ism of the worldview, the prism through which you see it.

01:01:29.000 If it's just about, there's this out there and I'm only getting this much, A, it's not true.

01:01:33.000 You're not getting 70 cents in the dollar.

01:01:34.000 But again, if I found out that I was making 70 cents in the dollar for a female job, I would go, okay, well, why? 1.00

01:01:42.000 What is it that they're adding that I'm not?

01:01:44.000 Sometimes there's injustice. 0.99

01:01:45.000 Not always, but the ism is, I need my piece of the pie, because vagina. 1.00

01:01:52.000 And that's how they see the world. 0.98

01:01:54.000 This is why you do have to create your filter.

01:01:56.000 You do have to have your moral compass.

01:01:58.000 I know a lot of you who listen to libertarian atheists, I don't believe in isms. 0.99

01:02:03.000 Well, you know what?

01:02:04.000 It changes things.

01:02:05.000 We have Andrew Klavan?

01:02:06.000 No, Hillary coming up next. 1.00

01:02:08.000 Oh, we have Hillary Clinton up next. 1.00

01:02:09.000 Good lord. 0.95

01:02:10.000 Yeah, crazy.

01:02:11.000 And we're back.

01:02:21.000 It's time again to play America's favorite game show.

01:02:25.000 Spot the real firearm.

01:02:27.000 Now the rules are simple.

01:02:29.000 One of these firearms is real.

01:02:30.000 The other is an accurate BB gun replica.

01:02:33.000 Yeah, it looks like he's dead.

01:02:43.000 Amen. .

01:02:46.000 Was the real one loaded?

01:02:48.000 Hey, Jared, what are you doing? 0.97

01:03:00.000 Shooting bad guys. 0.73

01:03:01.000 With what? 0.60

01:03:02.000 By AR-15.

01:03:03.000 Where'd you get it?

01:03:04.000 AR-15.com.

01:03:05.000 Enunciate it more clearly so our audience can hear.

01:03:08.000 AR-15.com.

01:03:10.000 That's better.

01:03:11.000 They sell guns now?

01:03:13.000 Yeah, they do.

01:03:14.000 Are they any good?

01:03:15.000 They're the best.

01:03:16.000 Where from?

01:03:16.000 AR-15.com.

01:03:17.000 Kapoor!

01:03:18.000 You really make that sound?

01:03:20.000 Didn't have the budget for sound effects.

01:03:22.000 Kaboow! 0.92

01:03:23.000 Kaboow! 0.92

01:03:23.000 Oh, there's another one! 0.92

01:03:25.000 Kaboow! 0.96

01:03:26.000 You shot him!

01:03:27.000 With what?

01:03:27.000 AR-15!

01:03:29.000 From where?

01:03:29.000 AR-15.com.

01:03:31.000 Hey, how do you know they're bad guys?

01:03:32.000 Turbots and burkas. 1.00

01:03:33.000 Kaboow! 0.92

01:03:34.000 That's racist!

01:03:35.000 Here we go.

01:04:00.000 We're doing a jig there.

01:04:02.000 Just a little jig.

01:04:03.000 Great.

01:04:04.000 Great to be back.

01:04:04.000 Glad to be back.

01:04:05.000 We have great guests.

01:04:06.000 We have Andrew Klavan coming up next.

01:04:08.000 But before that, right now, I think, do we...

01:04:12.000 Is Secretary Hillary Clinton on the line?

01:04:14.000 I think we got her.

01:04:15.000 Secretary Hillary Clinton, are you there?

01:04:19.000 Secretary Clinton, are you with us?

01:04:22.000 Oh, yeah!

01:04:24.000 Thanks for having me, Steven.

01:04:25.000 Really glad to be here.

01:04:26.000 Well, thanks for coming.

01:04:27.000 How are you feeling today?

01:04:28.000 Oh, I've never felt better.

01:04:30.000 I feel great.

01:04:32.000 Really ready to break through that glass ceiling, Steven.

01:04:35.000 Good, because you had a pretty serious health scare this week that led a lot of people to start questioning.

01:04:40.000 You know as well as I do that that's just a right-wing conspiracy from the bag of deplorables.

01:04:48.000 I can tell you it's going to take a lot more than simple allergies to keep Hillary Rodham Clinton down. 1.00

01:04:55.000 I thought it was pneumonia.

01:04:59.000 This week I thought it was pneumonia that you had.

01:05:03.000 It was.

01:05:04.000 It was pneumonia.

01:05:05.000 It was totally pneumonia.

01:05:08.000 So you just misspoke?

01:05:09.000 Well, you know as well as I do, Stephen, that allergies typically leads to pneumonia.

01:05:15.000 No, I don't know that.

01:05:16.000 I don't think anybody...

01:05:17.000 Or epilepsy or Parkinson's or the like.

01:05:19.000 Now, did you say Parkinson's?

01:05:21.000 It sounded like you said Parkinson's quite a bit.

01:05:23.000 I thought we were here to talk about my policy, Stephen.

01:05:26.000 Forgive me.

01:05:26.000 What's your latest policy proposal?

01:05:29.000 An immediate increase in federal funding to find a cure for epilepsy and or Parkinson's.

01:05:36.000 See, now that just sounds suspect.

01:05:38.000 Well, maybe to a sexist. 0.76

01:05:40.000 Is that what you are, Stephen? 0.54

01:05:44.000 Are you a sexist?

01:05:45.000 You just look different is all I'm saying.

01:05:47.000 Well, how so, Stephen?

01:05:48.000 Well, for starters, the duct tape and stick moving your mouth.

01:05:52.000 Oh, this?

01:05:52.000 No, this is the new look I'm bringing, Stephen.

01:05:56.000 If you read People Magazine, you know I'm very fashion-forward.

01:06:00.000 For example, I brought back pantsuits.

01:06:02.000 No, you didn't.

01:06:03.000 I was the first to wear the kung fu jacket, and I would argue I wore it better. 0.98

01:06:08.000 And this is the new duct tape and tree twig look, Stephen.

01:06:13.000 I'm pretty excited about it.

01:06:15.000 It's going to catch on.

01:06:16.000 I'm not so sure about that.

01:06:18.000 Trust me, this is already all the rage on the runway in Prague, Stephen.

01:06:23.000 It's just like other things.

01:06:24.000 The United States is slower to catch on.

01:06:27.000 It seems like more of a necessity than a fashion statement.

01:06:29.000 It's called ventriloquist chic.

01:06:31.000 Okay.

01:06:31.000 All right, Hillary, where's the best place for people to support you?

01:06:33.000 Yes, thanks, Stephen.

01:06:35.000 People can support me at HillaryClinton.org, DonaldTrumpIsLiterallyHitler.gov, or NePilepsyNow.com.

01:06:46.000 That last one's a big one, Stephen.

01:06:47.000 Yeah, I can imagine it is.

01:06:48.000 Secretary Hillary Clinton, everybody.

01:06:50.000 Thank you very much.

01:06:51.000 I feel great.

01:06:52.000 Glad to be here.

01:06:53.000 Clearly.

01:06:57.000 Um...

01:06:58.000 As Big Get, I wish we would have had more.

01:07:01.000 She doesn't look well at all.

01:07:04.000 I've seen her look better.

01:07:06.000 Yeah.

01:07:07.000 I've also seen myself look better.

01:07:09.000 Tan is not my color.

01:07:10.000 Cream, whatever you call it.

01:07:11.000 Good thing we'll have another colored shirt.

01:07:14.000 Well, you know, you sound off on what you think.

01:07:16.000 Tweet me at S. Crowder.

01:07:17.000 Do you think she has the pneumonia, or do you think maybe a little bit something more with that head action going on?

01:07:23.000 Could be just a touch of AIDS. Now, here's the thing that, you know what people are going to say?

01:07:26.000 Well, why is it okay for you to mock something that could be Parkinson's and not Donald Trump?

01:07:31.000 Because I'm not running for president.

01:07:33.000 That's it.

01:07:34.000 I say horrible stuff.

01:07:36.000 Horrendous stuff.

01:07:38.000 And people can criticize me for it.

01:07:40.000 Hey! 0.99

01:07:40.000 Speaking of being critical, this is a big story this week. 0.99

01:07:43.000 I didn't see a lot of people talking about this.

01:07:45.000 Jared doesn't pay attention to the website.

01:07:47.000 Did you hear about the Syrian refugees?

01:07:49.000 I heard vaguely things.

01:07:52.000 The United States accepted, thus far, Andrew Klavan next, by the way, 10,801 Syrian refugees.

01:07:59.000 Guess how many of those are Christian?

01:08:01.000 Oh, I did hear about this.

01:08:02.000 It's not a good number.

01:08:05.000 56.

01:08:07.000 That's half of 1%.

01:08:09.000 10% of all Syrians are Christian.

01:08:13.000 It means there's 2.2 million Christians in Syria.

01:08:17.000 And we've only accepted, so again, if you're going to talk about actual numbers, about proportionality to the population, 10% of refugees are Christian, less than.5 have been invited in this PR stunt to the United States.

01:08:29.000 What does that tell you?

01:08:31.000 Let me ask you something.

01:08:31.000 Not only are 10% of Syrian refugees Christian, but considering what's going on with ISIS, considering what's going on in Syria, wouldn't it stand to reason that more of the actual refugees...

01:08:45.000 Considering that Christians are being burned alive and slaughtered and targeted first solely for being Christian, Your Honor, would it stand to reason that more of the refugees fleeing should be Christian? 0.90

01:09:00.000 Is that outside the realm of reason?

01:09:02.000 Am I off base?

01:09:05.000 No, the logic checks out, Stephen.

01:09:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:09:07.000 When you talk, of course Muslims kill other Muslims in these countries, but you get priority access if you're a Christian there. 1.00

01:09:15.000 If you're not facing Mecca five times a day, you're being put in the fast lane. 0.98

01:09:19.000 That's the express checkout.

01:09:21.000 Twelve items or less because you've got a crucifix.

01:09:25.000 For some reason, We're taking in refugees at a record number, people who are committing rape at record numbers. 1.00

01:09:33.000 In Germany they just found 1500 child brides in refugee settlements.

01:09:37.000 But in the United States Statistically, none of them are Christians.

01:09:42.000 If you actually do the math, I'm doing it right here.

01:09:44.000 Carry the four.

01:09:46.000 Add the two percent.

01:09:48.000 Yeah, bull.

01:09:49.000 I can't say the full word on NCC. You can't say the full world.

01:09:52.000 Word in the world.

01:09:54.000 Word in the radio world.

01:09:57.000 Someone stabbed me with a pen.

01:09:59.000 Not that I have a pen.

01:10:00.000 Just stabbed my eyes with a pen because I don't want to have to look at Jared's surprise Lena Dunham pictures.

01:10:06.000 This is huge.

01:10:07.000 This should tell you that, again...

01:10:11.000 Democrats, as they go out there, they don't really care about the poor.

01:10:14.000 Joe Biden doesn't give it.

01:10:15.000 Hillary Clinton, they're not charitable people.

01:10:16.000 There's a great book by Brooks, Who Really Cares?

01:10:19.000 And it wasn't a conservative who set out, listen, conservatives give more, particularly Christian conservatives.

01:10:23.000 They're more charitable.

01:10:24.000 They put their money where their mouth is.

01:10:25.000 Leftists don't.

01:10:26.000 Same thing with the ref.

01:10:27.000 They don't really want to help people.

01:10:30.000 It's a PR stunt.

01:10:31.000 They want to go out and talk about how progressive they are and no walls and look at all the refugees we're bringing in.

01:10:37.000 Listen, I don't even understand the net gain here for them.

01:10:42.000 Except pandering to Muslims. 1.00

01:10:44.000 Except pandering to potential terrorists. 0.89

01:10:48.000 I don't understand why leftists wouldn't want to put their best foot forward and say, let's just bring in more Christians. 0.94

01:10:53.000 They are the ones getting slaughtered.

01:10:55.000 They are the ones being targeted first.

01:10:57.000 And we're bringing in the people who follow the religion and the prophet who are doing the slaughtering. 1.00

01:11:03.000 As a matter of fact, if anything, I bet you more Americans would be comfortable with Syrian refugees if we could vet them as Christians. 0.91

01:11:09.000 Because we know they're actually fleeing people killing them.

01:11:12.000 Doesn't mean that all Muslims are killing the Christians, but it's more of a guarantee that the Christians in Syria are likely not the ones doing the slaughtering.

01:11:21.000 It's not a guarantee.

01:11:22.000 It's not for sure.

01:11:23.000 It just puts it on that side of the ledger.

01:11:27.000 My God.

01:11:28.000 All right, Andrew Klavan coming up next.

01:11:30.000 I don't know.

01:11:30.000 He's half Jewish.

01:11:31.000 Jewish just stay Okay Right, so this next guest is a provocateur, right? 1.00

01:11:57.000 It's like, oh, oh, of course I said racist s**t, but I didn't say racist s**t. 0.99

01:12:03.000 Right, that's what she does. 1.00

01:12:04.000 So he's been trending again for another racist rant on Facebook.

01:12:08.000 Thanks for coming over here.

01:12:11.000 Trending?

01:12:12.000 I wasn't trending for any rant recently. 0.91

01:12:14.000 Oh, okay, that's that s*** debate tactic. 0.98

01:12:17.000 Oh, but I didn't trade for anything on Facebook, and it's bulls***! 0.99

01:12:21.000 That's bulls***! 1.00

01:12:22.000 Yeah, you blonde-haired, blue-eyed, Hitler-youth-looking f***! 1.00

01:12:27.000 Hitler-youth? 1.00

01:12:27.000 I'm not keeping up with this, guys. 1.00

01:12:29.000 That's because she's half-Jewish.

01:12:32.000 Jewish?

01:12:33.000 Since when am I Jewish?

01:12:35.000 Who does your mustache? 0.97

01:12:36.000 Did you just say mustache?

01:12:38.000 Oh, so now she wants to have a reasonable discussion, right?

01:12:40.000 She's working for the Blaze.

01:12:41.000 She wants to have a reasonable discussion. 1.00

01:12:44.000 It's bullshit! 1.00

01:12:45.000 That's bullshit! 1.00

01:12:47.000 I don't work for the Blaze. 1.00

01:12:49.000 Okay, right?

01:12:49.000 See, this is why we never have people who disagree with us, because they're not even being honest!

01:12:53.000 That's bullsh**! 0.99

01:12:54.000 Don't even deny it! 1.00

01:12:55.000 If you gotta get me bullsh**, get the f**k off the phone! 1.00

01:12:59.000 She's denying it! 1.00

01:13:00.000 Who told you I work for the Blaze?

01:13:02.000 Oh my god!

01:13:03.000 You're still denying it!

01:13:04.000 Did a rooster crow, you denied it?

01:13:06.000 You just didn't want to be honest.

01:13:08.000 I'm with the rebels!

01:13:10.000 I know, it's like, what?

01:13:11.000 What?

01:13:12.000 You're still observing, Jake.

01:13:13.000 If I'm not even going to be honest, I mean, right?

01:13:15.000 I agree with you, Jake.

01:13:17.000 Hey guys, Tommy Loren, everybody.

01:13:19.000 If you want to have a reasonable discussion, direct message me.

01:13:23.000 I'll give you my phone number.

01:13:24.000 We can talk about it over drinks.

01:13:25.000 Again, my name is not Tommy.

01:13:27.000 I'm Lauren Southern, and I'm not direct messaging you.

01:13:31.000 Think about it, right?

01:13:33.000 Okay, whatever.

01:13:34.000 This is done.

01:13:35.000 But drinks sound fun.

01:13:36.000 fun.

01:13:36.000 Can I come?

01:13:37.000 Of course, that is Pogo.

01:13:59.000 One of our favorite artists has provided us with all kinds of great music for Lauder with Crowder.

01:14:05.000 Gosh, what have I had?

01:14:06.000 I don't know what's happening.

01:14:06.000 Someone stabbed me with a pen.

01:14:07.000 My mouth isn't working today.

01:14:09.000 I'm ashamed of myself.

01:14:10.000 But I'm glad to have our next guest.

01:14:12.000 He's been on the show quite a bit.

01:14:14.000 You know him.

01:14:15.000 You love him.

01:14:15.000 He has a new book out.

01:14:16.000 And we'll talk about it as well.

01:14:17.000 Called The Great Good Thing, A Secular Jew. 1.00

01:14:20.000 Comes to faith in Christ.

01:14:22.000 Oh, geez.

01:14:23.000 That's going to cause some triggering.

01:14:25.000 You can follow him on Twitter at Andrew Klavan.

01:14:28.000 Senor Klavan, thank you.

01:14:30.000 Dude, it's good to see you.

01:14:31.000 I thought you were holding a pipe there.

01:14:32.000 That's your glasses.

01:14:33.000 It's just my glasses. 1.00

01:14:35.000 I will set them on fire if you like. 0.98

01:14:36.000 Yes, well, you'll probably want to if not Gay Jared brings up another image of Lena Dunham. 0.99

01:14:40.000 Oh, dear Lord.

01:14:41.000 Unpromoted.

01:14:41.000 I can't handle it again.

01:14:43.000 My Twitter feed has gone crazy.

01:14:44.000 I didn't see the image of Lena Dunham.

01:14:46.000 Thankfully, that's why I'm not blind, but that's all I've been hearing about it. 0.61

01:14:50.000 Sounds like it was horrific.

01:14:51.000 Well, first, we want to talk about Hillary Clinton because I know that you know a lot about her and I know that you've had Parkinson's and or epilepsy in the past, but your book is...

01:15:01.000 So your book is out here, and we've talked about this.

01:15:05.000 A lot of people obviously still send you the anti-Semitic remarks, but not a lot of Jews lose one to the other team.

01:15:11.000 So this is pretty big, and you could make some enemies. 0.98

01:15:16.000 Don't like the gays that way. 1.00

01:15:17.000 Yeah, it's pretty similar to the gays. 1.00

01:15:19.000 Well, you know, it's not only going from being Jewish to being Christian.

01:15:22.000 It's going from...

01:15:24.000 Being a secular Jew, a Jew who didn't believe in anything and was raised in an atmosphere of disbelief and worked.

01:15:31.000 I mean, I've spent all my life working in Hollywood and in New York publishing where a mention of Jesus would die of loneliness, you know, where it just was not, the thought didn't exist.

01:15:42.000 And so the reason I thought my story was kind of interesting was I think a lot of us Just about all of us are living in that culture.

01:15:49.000 We're living in a culture that basically believes that people are meat puppets, that have no souls.

01:15:53.000 We talk about having an adrenaline rush as if we were some kind of chemistry set.

01:15:57.000 And I just thought, you know, I thought this through for 35 years, and I'm pretty sure I'm right about this.

01:16:02.000 And I came to the conclusion that that image of human beings doesn't make any sense, whereas the Christian image of people does make sense. 0.98

01:16:10.000 And that's why I wrote it.

01:16:11.000 I thought, if you follow my journey, maybe you'll see a way out of where you're stuck here.

01:16:14.000 Well, that provides a little more context as opposed to a practicing Jew becoming a Christian.

01:16:18.000 But you know what?

01:16:19.000 That's the same story for anyone who's actually a Christian.

01:16:21.000 Everyone has to make the decision at some point.

01:16:23.000 That's one thing like, were you born Christian?

01:16:24.000 Well, no, your parents might be Christian, but by definition, you can't be born a Christian. 0.87

01:16:29.000 It's a decision you have to make.

01:16:30.000 But this is proof positive of what I've talked about a lot, Andrew.

01:16:33.000 I have a lot of atheists who listen to the show, a lot of atheists who come on the show, and this idea that you're in an atheist club and you get intellectual points right away the second you come out of the closet...

01:16:42.000 That's right.

01:16:42.000 And everyone else has gotten it wrong.

01:16:44.000 Listen, there are people who could probably eat your lunch in a theological debate, and me too, obviously. 0.50

01:16:50.000 However, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who says, yeah, Andrew Klavan's a dummy.

01:16:54.000 You're a smart guy who still believes, but generationally...

01:16:58.000 Young people just go, oh, write someone off if you're no longer one of the new atheists.

01:17:03.000 Well, yeah, and that's the way I felt when I was half-educated.

01:17:05.000 It was as I became more educated that actually that stuff started to collapse.

01:17:10.000 And that's what it is.

01:17:11.000 It depends on you to accept certain assumptions of a semi-educated elite The journalists, the guys who write the op-eds, the guys who make fun of you on TV, you know, the actors and all this stuff who make fun of religious people on TV. It just is basically saying to you, this is the cool crowd.

01:17:29.000 We're the smart guys.

01:17:30.000 And the problem is, they're not that cool, and they're definitely not that smart.

01:17:34.000 Well, some of them are very smart, but a lot of them aren't, and it is this sort of blanket.

01:17:39.000 I'm an atheist, and people go, well, he must be a critical thinker right away, right?

01:17:42.000 Because many of these kids are raised in youth group or whatever, and they're going against the grain.

01:17:45.000 I've noticed that a lot.

01:17:46.000 I've even talked with Sargon about that.

01:17:47.000 I go, you give a lot of other atheists a pass simply because they claim to be an atheist, and you see them using straw man all the time.

01:17:55.000 You see them being intellectually disingenuous, but because they claim the atheist mantle, you give them the okay.

01:18:01.000 And once you start to read their books and you really start to pick apart their arguments, even the smartest of them do not have good arguments.

01:18:08.000 Their arguments simply don't hold together.

01:18:10.000 And I've followed them, virtually all of them.

01:18:13.000 I've read almost all of them at this point.

01:18:15.000 And their arguments don't hold together.

01:18:16.000 Even Christopher Hitchens, a brilliant, brilliant writer, whenever he would talk about his atheism, suddenly he began to spout nonsense.

01:18:22.000 And it just was stuff that didn't make sense. 0.96

01:18:25.000 Oh, you know, some Christians are mean, so there's no God. 0.98

01:18:28.000 And you think, like, really?

01:18:29.000 That's the level of intellectual debate we're having?

01:18:32.000 I think he had some better arguments.

01:18:34.000 But I understand what you're saying.

01:18:36.000 And certainly his debates with Dinesh D'Souza were great.

01:18:39.000 Very entertaining to watch.

01:18:41.000 And very much the polar opposite of Dinesh's debate with Cenk Uyghur of the Young Turks.

01:18:46.000 He even talked about how Hitchens and him used to be friends.

01:18:48.000 I'm like, this is a new breed, man. 1.00

01:18:49.000 People are no longer respectful and hear ideas. 0.98

01:18:51.000 They just crap on you.

01:18:54.000 Which you'll probably get for that. 0.95

01:18:55.000 So where can people find the book?

01:18:57.000 Unless they've lost the debate.

01:18:58.000 That's why.

01:18:58.000 Yes, exactly.

01:19:00.000 Can people get it on Amazon?

01:19:02.000 Yep, get it on Amazon.

01:19:03.000 You can pre-order it now, and it's out next week.

01:19:07.000 Oh, what's happening?

01:19:08.000 I'm sorry.

01:19:09.000 One second, sorry.

01:19:10.000 Jared, bro, let's go grab a beer.

01:19:12.000 I would love to.

01:19:15.000 Let's do it!

01:19:16.000 I'll come.

01:19:16.000 How about not Thursday?

01:19:19.000 How about now?

01:19:20.000 How about yes now?

01:19:21.000 No.

01:19:22.000 Come on, dude.

01:19:22.000 Hang up.

01:19:23.000 Dean, hang up. 0.98

01:19:24.000 Hang up. 0.91

01:19:25.000 No, you hang up. 0.69

01:19:30.000 Sorry.

01:19:31.000 Superman, he loves you.

01:19:32.000 I don't know.

01:19:33.000 I told him again.

01:19:34.000 He's a good guy, Andrew.

01:19:36.000 He just needs to learn.

01:19:38.000 I love him, but why does he have a problem with Thursdays?

01:19:40.000 I don't know why he does.

01:19:41.000 I'm sorry, Andrew.

01:19:42.000 Hey, I want to ask first, I want to clarify.

01:19:44.000 Now that we're at the point, in the primaries, you were not on board with Trump.

01:19:47.000 I don't think you were ever hashtag never Trump.

01:19:50.000 Never never Trump.

01:19:51.000 Okay, so are you going to vote for Donald Trump now, between him and Hillary?

01:19:54.000 Boy, it sure is looking that way.

01:19:55.000 I mean, my problem with the never-Trumpers is not what they say about Donald Trump.

01:19:59.000 I don't like the guy very much.

01:20:01.000 I have a lot of big, big problems with him.

01:20:03.000 My problem is, as they say, like P.J. O'Rourke said it best.

01:20:06.000 He said, you know, Hillary Clinton is bad, but she's bad within normal parameters. 1.00

01:20:10.000 And I don't agree with that.

01:20:11.000 I think if that's normal parameters, normal has moved way, way down the line.

01:20:16.000 I think Hillary Clinton is really, really bad. 0.99

01:20:20.000 I think she's corrupt. 1.00

01:20:21.000 I think she's dishonest down to her. 1.00

01:20:23.000 Almost by rote, she almost lies without thinking about it, like a convict or something.

01:20:28.000 And I think her history is a history of abuse and greed, as Colin Powell said the other day, greed and nastiness.

01:20:36.000 And I just think that, you know, with Donald Trump, I think there is a vanishingly small chance that he will do a good job or a good job with something.

01:20:45.000 With Hillary Clinton, I just don't see it.

01:20:48.000 It's funny that you mentioned that about Donald Trump.

01:20:50.000 And Hillary Clinton doesn't even stand to gain sometimes, I'm certain. 0.98

01:20:54.000 We'll talk about that.

01:20:55.000 Anthony Camilla has made that point.

01:20:56.000 Why would you lie about it?

01:20:58.000 Why would you just say you have pneumonia?

01:20:59.000 Yeah.

01:21:00.000 Why?

01:21:01.000 Why lie about this?

01:21:02.000 That's why it's a story, because you stand nothing to gain by saying, hey, is Hillary Clinton sick?

01:21:09.000 Nah, nah, she's alright.

01:21:12.000 Why?

01:21:14.000 Why is she lying down like that on the pavement? 1.00

01:21:16.000 She's resting.

01:21:17.000 She's resting.

01:21:18.000 She's a little tired.

01:21:18.000 Yes, she's a little tired before they send her off to live on a farm and you never see her again.

01:21:23.000 Did you...

01:21:24.000 Okay, I know the conspiracies are going by.

01:21:27.000 You've got to be...

01:21:28.000 That looks like more than pneumonia, doesn't it?

01:21:32.000 Well, that one thing could be pneumonia.

01:21:34.000 Look, I have no proof of anything.

01:21:36.000 The other thing is, if you were a doctor, what you would be saying is, gee, I don't know, I didn't examine her, right?

01:21:44.000 But gee, it's been going on so long.

01:21:47.000 She's been coughing and coughing for months.

01:21:49.000 This is not just something that happened right away, you know what I mean?

01:21:52.000 You know, one thing I think that it could be that I don't hear people mention is it could be emphysema.

01:21:57.000 You know, like she could have a slow lung disease that's going to kill her eventually that is making her weak and making her prone to things like pneumonia. 1.00

01:22:05.000 Well, was she a smoker?

01:22:07.000 You know what it may be?

01:22:08.000 It may just be that when you sell your soul, your body collapses inward on the empty side.

01:22:12.000 Yes, exactly.

01:22:14.000 Yes.

01:22:15.000 Was she a smoker?

01:22:17.000 I think it's just the fire of hell.

01:22:19.000 I was going to say that.

01:22:20.000 Oh, you stole my thunder.

01:22:22.000 Ah, we were thinking!

01:22:23.000 I feel good about it, though, because that means I was tracking with Andrew Klavan on a joke.

01:22:27.000 Yes.

01:22:27.000 I was going to say Gates of Hell, more descriptive, and he's the writer here.

01:22:32.000 No, it is one of those situations.

01:22:33.000 We didn't write about it at all, like we talked about until this week.

01:22:36.000 And I'm going, all right, this is real.

01:22:38.000 This is something that you can verify.

01:22:40.000 This is clearly happening.

01:22:41.000 And they lied about it.

01:22:42.000 So it would have been catnip for clicks, for web traffic.

01:22:45.000 We know that, just peddling in conspiracies.

01:22:47.000 But this is something genuine.

01:22:48.000 And the fact that they lied about it, it could just be that's force of habit.

01:22:53.000 But it seems a little more sinister.

01:22:55.000 And buried in those Colin Powell emails that got hacked, buried in there was a reference to her being unable to climb a few steps to reach a stage.

01:23:03.000 Do you remember?

01:23:04.000 Did you happen to notice that?

01:23:05.000 He talked about somebody saying that she has been really, and this was a long time ago, it was like over a year ago, Talked about her being unable to reach the steps.

01:23:12.000 Something's wrong with her.

01:23:13.000 It's just a lot of stuff going on.

01:23:15.000 It's kind of like, you know, where they say where there's smoke, there's fire.

01:23:17.000 That's not always true, but there's an awful lot of smoke.

01:23:19.000 I mean, I would just attribute the step thing that she waddles around like Kim Jong-un in a little kung fu jacket. 1.00

01:23:26.000 I can't imagine she's very mobile.

01:23:28.000 It's kind of like when you have an older...

01:23:29.000 I know people are going to say, yeah, like an older dog who has the bad hips and you kind of got to get them moving in the morning.

01:23:35.000 Well, it's not any one thing.

01:23:36.000 I mean, I've been coughing up green stuff for a year.

01:23:39.000 So that's...

01:23:39.000 I mean, you can take any of one things, but it's the accumulation of all that.

01:23:43.000 It does make it a little...

01:23:47.000 I'm worried that the thing is becoming like psycho where she's actually like just stuffed in the attic, you know?

01:23:53.000 We're going to walk by the White House.

01:23:54.000 We're going to hear like, mother, no, no.

01:23:56.000 Norman, stop you.

01:23:58.000 You know that, Bill.

01:23:59.000 Norman, mother blood.

01:24:00.000 It's a very strange experience.

01:24:03.000 I don't know.

01:24:04.000 Something definitely looks wrong.

01:24:06.000 If that's the case, I mean, at least, obviously, Bill hasn't been doing it.

01:24:10.000 Someone's stuffing her, so she's got something going for her at this point.

01:24:13.000 Come on.

01:24:14.000 That's worse than the landed on a minute of injury.

01:24:17.000 Colin Powell said that Bill was still sleeping with bimbos, at least he's healthy enough to be pregnant. 1.00

01:24:22.000 Yes, yes, exactly.

01:24:23.000 Well, don't you know your boner pills are covered, apparently, according to Kristen Bell, as opposed to birth control. 1.00

01:24:29.000 Here is something you just touched on.

01:24:31.000 The Colin Powell emails, everyone talked about it, and the whole story was he coached her on how to hide things in a private email server.

01:24:37.000 No, what you just talked about is very important, where he said that she couldn't get Everything she touched she ruined, I think, due to hubris.

01:24:44.000 He mentioned hubris, but basically saying she is immensely unsuccessful.

01:24:44.000 Something like that.

01:24:48.000 He doesn't like her.

01:24:48.000 She's grading.

01:24:49.000 He talked about her health.

01:24:51.000 He talked about telling her not to do specifically what she did with her email server and specifically not to lie about it.

01:24:57.000 He did some things that were less than savory, but it's like everyone just glossed over the stuff that is damning on Hillary.

01:25:04.000 Well, the networks hardly covered it.

01:25:06.000 They went right to the Trump stuff. 1.00

01:25:07.000 He called Trump an idiot and all this stuff. 0.99

01:25:09.000 You know, the thing that's so irritating about the Clintons in general is that our memory is so short that we forget that they've been doing this for decades now. 0.99

01:25:20.000 You know, like when Hillary was senator, she was taking money from Corning Glass to get them deals with the Chinese. 1.00

01:25:27.000 She took that money from the Russian plutonium company.

01:25:31.000 As Secretary of State, allowed them to buy 20% of our uranium supply in Canada.

01:25:37.000 I mean, she has been taking money for political favors for a long time. 1.00

01:25:41.000 And, you know, I hate to bring it up, but those are our favors.

01:25:44.000 You know, she was a servant of us people, and she was selling them for private cash. 0.98

01:25:47.000 And I'm like, that's a no-no to me.

01:25:49.000 Yeah, it's kind of, some would say a disqualifier at some point, but like you said, when you change the parameters of normal, I mean, you're talking about the Clintons, House of Cards has basically been created around them, and people just forget about that.

01:26:01.000 It's like they are the villains that create one of the most successful shows in modern history.

01:26:06.000 It is so, you know, you're probably going to surprise a lot of people by saying you're likely going to vote for Trump.

01:26:12.000 You know, a lot of people are going to say, that Jew is never going to vote Trump.

01:26:15.000 You'll get that in your opinion.

01:26:17.000 Well, you know, I've made no secret of my feelings about the guy.

01:26:20.000 I think he is a bad dude.

01:26:22.000 I've basically lost this election already.

01:26:24.000 I mean, there's nobody who's going to get elected who's going to cut back the government.

01:26:28.000 Nobody's going to get elected who's going to make me more free, let the country lessen debt, more safe.

01:26:33.000 None of that's going to happen.

01:26:34.000 It's just not happening.

01:26:35.000 So the question is, how do we get through the next four years with as little damage as possible?

01:26:40.000 And I think there is, you know, Some people disagree with this.

01:26:44.000 I think there is a chance that Trump will make a good Supreme Court appointment.

01:26:48.000 That would be major.

01:26:49.000 That would be a big deal.

01:26:50.000 And I think that increasing the security on the border is important.

01:26:54.000 I think there are some good things that I think he could do.

01:26:59.000 I think there are a lot of good things that he can do.

01:27:00.000 And I would think it's likely that he appoints someone better to the Supreme Court.

01:27:06.000 Not only a possibility, I would say likely, if only because he's beholden to some level of honesty.

01:27:11.000 You know, even though I don't necessarily know how we can talk, I don't think he's particularly dishonest.

01:27:15.000 I think he's thoughtless sometimes.

01:27:17.000 It's just words come out and he has to walk them back.

01:27:20.000 I don't picture him as sinister or premeditated as Hillary Clinton.

01:27:24.000 Andrew Klavan, at Andrew Klavan, and we'll talk with him more after this break.

01:27:27.000 It's a break.

01:27:27.000 I forgot we have a break.

01:27:28.000 Go to Hillary! - Three! 1.00

01:27:47.000 Do the Hillary! 0.96

01:27:48.000 Throw your head from side to side, can we collapse you and me? 0.78

01:27:52.000 Do the Hillary! 0.97

01:27:53.000 Shake your hands like you got Parkinson's, nothing to see here, just like the allergies! 0.57

01:27:58.000 Do the Hillary! 0.98

01:28:07.000 Throw your head from side to side Then we collapse you and me Do the Hillary! 1.00

01:28:12.000 Do the Hillary! 0.96

01:28:17.000 When it's time to party, we will party hard.

01:28:46.000 We're back.

01:28:47.000 At Andrew Klavan, he is there.

01:28:49.000 Pardon us for that horrible break in dancing, Andrew.

01:28:52.000 That was bad.

01:28:53.000 It was.

01:28:53.000 I like all the funny gestures, you know.

01:28:56.000 Yes, yes.

01:28:56.000 Well, listen, it's a big part of the program.

01:28:59.000 This is indicative of the quality that people come to know and love.

01:29:03.000 Come to expect from you, I guess.

01:29:04.000 Yes, of Liderworth Crudder.

01:29:05.000 I do recommend people go out to the new book, One More Plug for It, The Great Good Thing, A Secular Jew Comes to Faith in Christ, because it's actually one of the few books, you're more of a fiction writer, that conservatives or sort of, I guess, even just social conservatives would want to read.

01:29:20.000 It's my first non-fiction book.

01:29:22.000 And yeah, it was really difficult to switch and tell your own personal story.

01:29:27.000 But I'm really happy with the way it came out.

01:29:29.000 And everyone who's read it so far has been incredibly nice about it.

01:29:32.000 So I think people will like it.

01:29:33.000 Oh gosh, look what he's doing to Trump.

01:29:34.000 Listen, everyone else loves it.

01:29:36.000 Everyone loves it.

01:29:37.000 The polls are incredible.

01:29:39.000 And it's beating Hillary Clinton's book already.

01:29:42.000 Well, you've got...

01:29:43.000 Truthfully, okay, honestly.

01:29:46.000 Here's the thing.

01:29:46.000 I will say this.

01:29:47.000 I get a little bit of a...

01:29:49.000 When, you know, the polls tie and I see Hillary Clinton, you know, I see her doing poorly, even though I've been critical of Trump.

01:29:56.000 And I think people should.

01:29:57.000 What we've tried to do is honestly be critical of Trump when fair and support him when right.

01:30:01.000 But I'd be lying if I said I don't get a little tingle down my leg when Hillary is doing poorly. 0.83

01:30:05.000 I'm with you, too.

01:30:06.000 And the best thing about a Trump election is the people whose heads will explode.

01:30:10.000 And I actually want to be there like in The New York Times editorial offices when people just go like, You know, and just watch, like, scanners.

01:30:17.000 Remember scanners where the guy's heads just blow up?

01:30:19.000 I think just watching that would be worth the entire price.

01:30:22.000 I'm trying to remember scanners.

01:30:24.000 Did you ever see scanners not gay, Jared? 0.97

01:30:25.000 No. 0.99

01:30:27.000 And heads explode.

01:30:28.000 Heads explode.

01:30:29.000 And it will be much like that, I think.

01:30:31.000 Yes, I think, especially in Los Angeles.

01:30:33.000 Bill Burr has talked about that.

01:30:34.000 We have some questions from the Twitter, Andrew, for you.

01:30:36.000 Someone said, what about Andrew's thoughts on Gary the Libertarian?

01:30:40.000 I love how he has to say Gary the Libertarian.

01:30:42.000 The Libertarian.

01:30:44.000 Well, I mean, first of all, I think the guy's not going to win, so he doesn't matter as a realistic possibility.

01:30:50.000 But, you know, every time, I don't know what it is with libertarians.

01:30:53.000 I consider myself basically a libertarian.

01:30:55.000 I don't care what anybody else does in their personal lives or anything.

01:30:58.000 All these guys can talk about is pot.

01:31:01.000 I mean, you talk to Gary Johnson, you know, you talk to Gary Johnson, you talk to him about, he doesn't know where Aleppo is.

01:31:07.000 You know, it's like, Aleppo, do they make pot there?

01:31:09.000 You know, it's like, you talk to him about whatever you talk to him.

01:31:11.000 But the minute you hit the subject of dope, he'll go for 20 minutes and he doesn't stop.

01:31:17.000 And you go like, okay, I get it.

01:31:18.000 Dope should be legal.

01:31:19.000 Fine.

01:31:19.000 I'm fine with that.

01:31:20.000 But stop! 0.84

01:31:21.000 And it's not even just, where's the love boats?

01:31:24.000 Where's Aleppo?

01:31:26.000 Yeah, I love my favorite part about that.

01:31:27.000 We ran this last week.

01:31:29.000 Where's Aleppo?

01:31:30.000 They go, are you serious?

01:31:31.000 Aleppo, it's one of the most pivotal cities in Syria.

01:31:34.000 He goes, got it!

01:31:35.000 Got it!

01:31:36.000 Like, the got it was clearly like, stop it!

01:31:39.000 Stop letting this go any further down the embarrassment trail!

01:31:44.000 What's...

01:31:44.000 Aleppo?

01:31:46.000 But if you ask him what Aleppo Red is, he knows.

01:31:52.000 Oh yeah, Aleppo Red, I love that story.

01:31:54.000 It's a strain, man.

01:31:55.000 Yeah, it is very bizarre that they make it their single pivotal issue.

01:31:59.000 We've talked about that, for me, even with libertarians.

01:32:01.000 But what's funny about this is a lot of these libertarians who are potheads now, all of a sudden they've abandoned it for Trump because it's this trend.

01:32:07.000 And they don't care at all that he's going to be probably the worst president on pot if you look at what he's talking about.

01:32:11.000 They love the hackers and Donald Trump is going to jail Snowden.

01:32:14.000 I'm not saying he's necessarily wrong.

01:32:16.000 I'm saying the people who would have been libertarian have abandoned it for a trend.

01:32:19.000 But the pot thing, even my position is, listen, if you want to smoke pot, fine.

01:32:23.000 States should have the right to vote and let people smoke pot. 1.00

01:32:26.000 I think a lot of states probably will.

01:32:27.000 But just don't lie and say that it's medicine or big pharma is colluding to get...

01:32:32.000 No, there's seven patents right now on marijuana drugs.

01:32:36.000 There's only one that works for chemo patients for appetite.

01:32:39.000 They don't want it as medicine. 0.90

01:32:40.000 They want to get high.

01:32:41.000 My thing is just say, hey...

01:32:44.000 The jury's still out.

01:32:45.000 There probably isn't a lot of benefit.

01:32:46.000 Could be bad for some people.

01:32:47.000 But it's my right.

01:32:48.000 I want to get high.

01:32:49.000 If they said that and states legalize it, I have no problem with it.

01:32:52.000 Even that is upsetting to libertarians.

01:32:54.000 But, fine, but did he miss the news story where the Islamists are trying to wipe us off the face of the earth?

01:32:59.000 I mean, did he miss the news story, like, where we're $400 trillion in debt?

01:33:04.000 You know, it's like, great, legalized pot, leave me alone, but that's not the only issue that's up in this election.

01:33:10.000 It's like he's never read anything else, except, like, you know, the latest, you know, where you can score good stuff.

01:33:16.000 Yeah, well, I think, well, he was probably taking bong hits while they were talking about Aleppo.

01:33:20.000 I feel like, you know, all of a sudden they're reading about Syria, and Gary turns, What?

01:33:25.000 Don't you notice, isn't it funny how all the libertarians who run for office, you know, this is the thing, this is my life's work, but I've never smoked pot.

01:33:33.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:33:35.000 Not Gary, not Gary, man.

01:33:36.000 He's like, no, no, I've been offered for seven weeks, you know, like I really gave it up, you know.

01:33:41.000 Yeah.

01:33:42.000 Oh, we're going to get letters.

01:33:43.000 He's not a serious guy.

01:33:44.000 No, I don't think he's a serious candidate, and I think a lot of libertarians...

01:33:47.000 Austin Peterson we actually had on the show quite a bit.

01:33:50.000 Probably wasn't a super serious candidate, but was actually able to formulate a thought, was certainly more consistent.

01:33:54.000 My problem was open borders with him.

01:33:56.000 He was an open borders guy, and he was making the case, which I understand he was making the case that a lot of libertarian economists made.

01:34:02.000 However, that was in a time where it wasn't entirely a welfare state, right?

01:34:06.000 People coming here for jobs is very different from people flocking here for free stuff.

01:34:11.000 That's right.

01:34:12.000 That's right.

01:34:12.000 And they used to go back.

01:34:13.000 I mean, it used to be they would come in seasonally and go back, and that was kind of a system, and it worked fine, but now they come in and they stay.

01:34:18.000 And you know what?

01:34:19.000 It doesn't make any sense anyway.

01:34:21.000 You can't have a country without borders.

01:34:23.000 How would you even find it on a map?

01:34:24.000 You know?

01:34:25.000 I mean, that's what a country is.

01:34:27.000 A country is a place surrounded with lines.

01:34:29.000 You know, it's a piece of ground surrounded with lines that other people can't come into.

01:34:33.000 That is what a country is.

01:34:34.000 Except for a lot of Canada.

01:34:35.000 It's mostly just honor system.

01:34:37.000 Yeah.

01:34:38.000 They have this natural defense.

01:34:41.000 Nobody wants to go.

01:34:42.000 Yeah, it really is.

01:34:43.000 When I used to go through the border all the time, oh my gosh, it was so embarrassing.

01:34:46.000 We're all American.

01:34:47.000 My mom is French-Canadian.

01:34:48.000 She immigrated to the United States.

01:34:50.000 We'd go through the border in Champlain.

01:34:51.000 We'd go to Plattsburgh, New York.

01:34:53.000 Plattsburgh, this podunk town with nothing there.

01:34:55.000 But we were in Canada, so they had Taco Bell.

01:34:58.000 So we would go for the weekend.

01:34:59.000 And the joke they would always say is...

01:35:01.000 I remember just being like, okay, here's a security checkpoint, and then nothing but empty land with zero protection.

01:35:07.000 And my dad would say, yep, here are three citizens and one alien, and my mom would go, beep, beep, ha-ha, like the alien one, because she's French-Canadian. 0.62

01:35:15.000 I was like...

01:35:16.000 Anyway, sorry, this conversation took a weird turn, but it was a perfect opportunity for that story.

01:35:21.000 Andrew Klavan, your book title, We Have to Go, what is it?

01:35:24.000 The Great Good Thing, The Great Good Thing, A Secular Jew Comes to Faith in Christ.

01:35:30.000 We have 30 seconds, right, Naki, Jerry?

01:35:31.000 What's your stance on bagels, real quick, before we go?

01:35:33.000 You still pro?

01:35:34.000 Bagels, love them.

01:35:34.000 Love them.

01:35:35.000 They're good for Jews. 1.00

01:35:36.000 They're good for the Christians.

01:35:36.000 They're good for everybody.

01:35:38.000 I think it's just overrated bread in a circular shape.

01:35:41.000 It's cookie-cutter bread.

01:35:43.000 All right, Andrew Klavan, we love him.

01:35:46.000 You got him, and we'll have him back soon at Andrew Klavan.

01:35:50.000 Stay tuned, because we have Bob Ross, right?

01:35:52.000 Bob Ross.

01:35:53.000 Bob Ross coming up next.

01:35:54.000 Drawing Hillary Clinton.

01:35:55.000 And now for the adventures of the White Privilege Boy.

01:36:11.000 . . .

01:36:17.000 Did you see the look on Mr.

01:36:19.000 Yeah, he didn't know what hit him.

01:36:19.000 MacArthur's face?

01:36:21.000 Yeah, it was awesome. 0.95

01:36:22.000 Oh darn it, there's Officer Jenkins. 0.96

01:36:24.000 Oh no, what do we do? 0.99

01:36:25.000 I know!

01:36:25.000 Let's run into that alleyway!

01:36:29.000 Oh, shoot! 1.00

01:36:30.000 It's a dead end! 0.99

01:36:31.000 Oh, god darn it! 0.98

01:36:32.000 Now, boys, have you three been up to no good? 0.99

01:36:35.000 I don't know what you're talking about, Officer Jenkins!

01:36:38.000 Well, I've been getting some phone calls.

01:36:40.000 Does Mr.

01:36:41.000 MacArthur ring a bell?

01:36:43.000 All right, guys, run.

01:36:43.000 I got this.

01:36:44.000 I still have my BB gun.

01:36:45.000 Oh, Timmy, I'm disappointed.

01:36:47.000 You know you're not supposed to aim a loaded firearm at an officer.

01:36:51.000 Yeah?

01:36:51.000 What are you going to do about it, Officer Jenkins?

01:36:53.000 I tell you what I'm going to do to you, Timmy.

01:36:55.000 First, you're going to put the loaded firearm down.

01:36:59.000 I'm going to have to call your mother. 1.00

01:37:01.000 First, we'll go grab an ice cream cone and talk about it.

01:37:04.000 What do you say?

01:37:06.000 Okay.

01:37:07.000 Can I ride in the front of the paddy wagon?

01:37:09.000 Oh, Timmy...

01:37:10.000 Usually that's not allowed, but since you're white... 1.00

01:37:15.000 Oh, those boys!

01:37:16.000 What pickle will they find themselves in next?

01:37:19.000 Stay tuned for next week's installment of Adventures of the White Privilege Boys.

01:37:24.000 All right, I'm glad to be back. I'm glad to be back.

01:37:46.000 We're in the third hour.

01:37:47.000 We're going to have Anthony Cumia.

01:37:49.000 Cumia.

01:37:50.000 Anthony Cumia.

01:37:52.000 Coming up next after the...

01:37:54.000 Well, we have a couple...

01:37:55.000 Oh, no, sorry.

01:37:55.000 We don't have him next, right, do we?

01:37:57.000 Yeah, coming up next after...

01:37:58.000 Oh, that's right.

01:37:59.000 Gosh, we're almost through this show.

01:38:01.000 It's going crazy, going fast.

01:38:02.000 All right, so you know what?

01:38:02.000 Right now, people love that we had...

01:38:04.000 Not long ago, Bob Ross taught us how to draw Muhammad, and... 0.78

01:38:08.000 Lucky enough to get him back.

01:38:09.000 We're lucky enough to get him back.

01:38:10.000 We are very fortunate.

01:38:11.000 We have Bob Ross here this evening teaching you how to draw Hillary Clinton.

01:38:15.000 Enjoy.

01:38:16.000 Welcome back to the Joy of Painting.

01:38:34.000 I'm Bob Ross.

01:38:35.000 The beauty of painting is you can paint whatever you like.

01:38:39.000 We can paint a landscape or a portrait or...

01:38:42.000 Even this week, let's go with something topical.

01:38:45.000 Something in the news.

01:38:47.000 Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton has been in the news a lot.

01:38:49.000 Let's do that.

01:38:51.000 For that, you're going to need your paintbrush, some colors.

01:38:54.000 You can use whatever you like.

01:38:55.000 I suggest liquid whites.

01:38:59.000 Mucus green, some slate colors, and lots of more liquid whites.

01:39:04.000 Lots of liquid whites in the Hillary Clinton campaign. 0.98

01:39:08.000 Let's get started and draw the secretary here. 1.00

01:39:11.000 Let's paint the secretary herself. 0.99

01:39:13.000 Little blonde there for her hair. 1.00

01:39:15.000 Not too blonde.

01:39:17.000 Not too blonde because it's not real blonde.

01:39:20.000 That you can add whatever you want.

01:39:22.000 Let's continue drawing the face.

01:39:24.000 Narrow shoulders.

01:39:26.000 Narrow shoulders and wide berthing hips.

01:39:31.000 Beautiful wide berthing hips with narrow shoulders. 0.87

01:39:35.000 Perfect for carrying little Chelsea.

01:39:38.000 Perfect for carrying little, little Clintons there. 1.00

01:39:42.000 See how it's coming together very nicely?

01:39:44.000 Oh, that's a beautiful Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:39:47.000 Now, she's had some health scares recently, the secretary.

01:39:53.000 Let's draw a little bit of...

01:39:55.000 She's coughing here. 0.60

01:39:57.000 Let's draw her coughing up some mucus. 1.00

01:39:59.000 That's the mucus green, I told you.

01:40:01.000 Let's have some green there.

01:40:03.000 Oh, beautiful color.

01:40:05.000 It's unfortunate sometimes it's associated with sickness.

01:40:09.000 It's a beautiful color in its own right.

01:40:11.000 And then, she's been coughing pretty badly.

01:40:13.000 Let's draw a little lung.

01:40:15.000 Little lung. 0.95

01:40:17.000 That Hillary Clinton, the secretary expelled in her coughs right there. 1.00

01:40:22.000 See how that's coming together?

01:40:23.000 She looks a little lonely.

01:40:25.000 Let's give her some trees. 1.00

01:40:27.000 Little happy trees there.

01:40:30.000 Little happy trees.

01:40:31.000 They don't have to be complex.

01:40:35.000 Little happy trees.

01:40:36.000 But you know what?

01:40:38.000 She needs more than trees.

01:40:40.000 This is topical.

01:40:40.000 We can do something different.

01:40:42.000 Let's give her some bodies. 1.00

01:40:44.000 Let's just draw some little bodies. 1.00

01:40:47.000 The Clinton body count.

01:40:49.000 Right there.

01:40:49.000 Let's draw a little body.

01:40:51.000 Oh, there's a Vince Foster.

01:40:52.000 Look at that.

01:40:53.000 She just beat the devil out of him.

01:40:55.000 Little bodies to keep Hillary company. 1.00

01:40:58.000 Now, let's go back to Hillary herself, since we're filling this in. 0.98

01:41:02.000 She's had some health scares.

01:41:04.000 Let's draw some shake lines here.

01:41:06.000 Her hands and head were shaking from some kind of disease.

01:41:10.000 Could be Parkinson's.

01:41:12.000 Could be cancer.

01:41:15.000 Epilepsy.

01:41:16.000 You can pick whatever disease you like.

01:41:18.000 That's the beauty of painting.

01:41:21.000 AIDS. Could be whatever disease you want to draw for Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:41:25.000 Could be all of them. 0.81

01:41:26.000 She could have every disease under the sun. 1.00

01:41:29.000 You know what?

01:41:30.000 Let's draw a sun.

01:41:32.000 Let's draw a sun.

01:41:34.000 Let's draw a sun up here.

01:41:35.000 Nice, warm, yellow sun saying hello to the secretary.

01:41:39.000 Beating down because it was hot in New York.

01:41:43.000 Let's draw that hot, warm sun beating down on Hillary, making her sick, creating a sweltering, bone-dry seventy-four degrees. 1.00

01:41:53.000 Look at that.

01:41:54.000 That's coming together nicely.

01:41:55.000 See?

01:41:56.000 No doubt as to who that is.

01:41:58.000 We have to finish this up here.

01:42:01.000 With her sickness, she needs some help.

01:42:03.000 She needs some friends. 0.67

01:42:04.000 Let's draw her security detail. 0.99

01:42:07.000 Coming in right there, her security detail.

01:42:10.000 Now you can make them whatever color you want.

01:42:12.000 They could be brown or black.

01:42:15.000 But let's be honest, they're most likely white.

01:42:17.000 Let's draw them white. 0.89

01:42:20.000 Most of her security detail is going to be liquid whites. 1.00

01:42:25.000 There you go.

01:42:26.000 It's not her fault.

01:42:28.000 People have different upbringings.

01:42:29.000 Some people are afraid of colored folk.

01:42:33.000 They can be intimidating liquid-wise.

01:42:35.000 Her security detail.

01:42:37.000 Now, to finish this, they're stabbing her with a diazepam pen. 1.00

01:42:41.000 Stopping the violent convulsions with a diazepam pen.

01:42:46.000 Right there.

01:42:47.000 Let's paint that. 0.99

01:42:48.000 Stabbing the secretary with a diazepam pen so she can feel all better. 0.99

01:42:53.000 Feeling all better.

01:42:54.000 Look at that.

01:42:56.000 Painting doesn't have to be complicated.

01:42:58.000 Look at the beautiful picture we did.

01:43:00.000 And that was a good warm-up with just her body double. 0.98

01:43:04.000 When we come back, we'll paint the real thing.

01:43:08.000 Happy painting, and God bless you, my friends.

01:43:11.000 I almost fall asleep when I listen to Bob Ross.

01:43:32.000 It's inspiring.

01:43:33.000 It always inspires me.

01:43:34.000 I love Bob Ross.

01:43:35.000 He knows how to find the silver lining in everything.

01:43:38.000 Except for this.

01:43:39.000 God!

01:43:41.000 Yeah, nothing.

01:43:42.000 Nothing silver.

01:43:42.000 Stop it!

01:43:43.000 Or even lines.

01:43:45.000 The reason you're hearing me right now off mic is because I can't even look at my monitor.

01:43:50.000 Not Gay Jared has made my monitor an unsafe space. 0.93

01:43:52.000 What's the pictures of Lena Dunham?

01:43:54.000 Is it off?

01:43:54.000 It's off.

01:43:55.000 Okay.

01:43:55.000 It's off.

01:43:56.000 All right.

01:43:56.000 It's off there.

01:43:57.000 No, I know. 0.93

01:43:58.000 You know, I'll be texting you some pictures of clowns.

01:44:00.000 It's back, and then it's off.

01:44:02.000 Okay.

01:44:02.000 Here we go.

01:44:03.000 Alright, next time it's pictures of clowns for you. 0.99

01:44:05.000 Clowns. 0.99

01:44:06.000 Not Gay Jared is deathly afraid of clowns. 1.00

01:44:09.000 Terrified. 0.98

01:44:09.000 Tweet him at Not Gay Jared the creepiest clown pictures you can possibly find. 0.98

01:44:14.000 You kept me up all night last week. 0.98

01:44:16.000 With the clown pictures. 0.81

01:44:17.000 With the clown picture text.

01:44:18.000 It's going to happen this week because my wife has been gone since Monday. 1.00

01:44:22.000 She comes back Monday.

01:44:23.000 She's a working gal. 0.98

01:44:24.000 As a matter of fact, there's a lot going on in the Crowder household right now.

01:44:28.000 Hashtag never daily.

01:44:29.000 Because there's a lot going on in the works even though we're never going daily.

01:44:32.000 Hashtag never daily.

01:44:33.000 So stop tweeting it and asking us.

01:44:34.000 She's been gone.

01:44:36.000 And I will tell you this.

01:44:38.000 Sweetheart, miss you if you're watching this.

01:44:41.000 It's tough for me when my wife is gone.

01:44:44.000 Not only because I want to mount everything.

01:44:46.000 Jared Careful.

01:44:49.000 This is why I carry him.

01:44:51.000 This is why he carries him. 0.96

01:44:52.000 And the clowns. 0.76

01:44:53.000 And that's barely a joke, by the way. 0.90

01:44:55.000 But, uh... 0.98

01:44:57.000 It's one of those things people go, oh, you're trying to suck up to your wife when I'm on air. 1.00

01:45:01.000 I really do try and be sincere with people listening. 0.99

01:45:04.000 I think that's one of the good qualities of the show is not gay. 1.00

01:45:07.000 Jared and I are genuine people.

01:45:10.000 You do get a glimpse into our lives.

01:45:11.000 Now, we keep some things private, naturally.

01:45:14.000 But I genuinely don't relate to people who can't stand their wives. 1.00

01:45:19.000 What kind of a mourn are you to marry someone who you think is an idiot you have to go home to every night? 1.00

01:45:24.000 I genuinely like being with my wife. 1.00

01:45:27.000 When she's gone, I miss her.

01:45:28.000 I don't do well.

01:45:29.000 And this is one thing that I think is important because people say, well, why do you, you know, a lot of people get mad because you're a social conservative.

01:45:36.000 It doesn't mean I'm pushing it on you.

01:45:37.000 It means, listen, this is what's improved my life.

01:45:39.000 I've always been an advocate for marriage.

01:45:41.000 I think it's a great thing.

01:45:42.000 I think a man who finds a good wife finds something that is good.

01:45:46.000 Great, even.

01:45:47.000 And I didn't do well as a single person.

01:45:50.000 You know, I'll talk with people that are like, oh, the wife's out. 0.89

01:45:52.000 You're going to party?

01:45:53.000 No, and that's not real life.

01:45:55.000 That's in the movies.

01:45:55.000 Not everyone is Alfie.

01:45:57.000 Okay, it ends up being the 69% wrap-up burritos with some beer and Netflix.

01:46:03.000 I've never been a good bachelor, and I say this because I get a lot of emails from young men.

01:46:06.000 They feel as though that's the norm, and it's somehow abnormal if they feel lonely.

01:46:11.000 Like, you're a bachelor, because so many people who are married, right, if you watch the shows, they just wish they could go back to when they were single.

01:46:18.000 I am so much happier married.

01:46:22.000 I can't even tell you.

01:46:23.000 It wasn't really something that was that scary to me.

01:46:25.000 I am that way with children.

01:46:27.000 So maybe send me an email or tweet me at escrowder.

01:46:29.000 With children, it still scares the daylights out of me.

01:46:31.000 But I'm way happier.

01:46:33.000 I was living in Manhattan in my own apartment in the Upper East Side, was doing pretty well financially, alone.

01:46:39.000 If ever a bachelor would have been thrilled, it would have been that scenario.

01:46:42.000 I couldn't stand it.

01:46:43.000 And being married is a lot, A, it's more fun, because I have someone nearby who's my closest friend, my confidant, someone who cares about me, and also cooks.

01:46:55.000 You know, sex and sandwiches are a big plus.

01:46:57.000 I will say this, having experienced both, I don't relate to the people, to the guys who, oh man, I miss being single.

01:47:05.000 I tell you what, when you're married, it's all over.

01:47:07.000 For me, it's been the exact opposite.

01:47:09.000 Being married has opened up so many opportunities.

01:47:11.000 It really has been the greatest, probably the greatest blessing to my life ever.

01:47:15.000 I know people say it, the best day, and you think they have to say it because their wife is eavesdropping.

01:47:21.000 Oh, the best day of my life was when I got married.

01:47:23.000 We have to say that.

01:47:24.000 And I don't even know that the best day of my life was when I got married, but it certainly made my life a whole lot better.

01:47:30.000 So, she's been gone, and that makes it tough, which means I'm going to be sending you pictures of naked clowns, most likely. 0.98

01:47:37.000 Clown pornography. 0.99

01:47:39.000 Some could say it's tougher for me, then. 1.00

01:47:40.000 Yes, some could say it's tougher for not gay children.

01:47:43.000 But don't feel abnormal, guys, out there. 0.96

01:47:45.000 Don't feel normal because you have this wife-shaped hole in your heart, and you want to fill it. 1.00

01:47:52.000 You've been made to feel as though you need to sow your wild oats, and you're not a real man if you're looking to settle down.

01:47:57.000 It's not true.

01:47:58.000 Some people love going to the bar every night and popping the pills to avoid the venereal diseases, and that's their thing, and that's fine.

01:48:06.000 That's their thing.

01:48:07.000 But it's not even necessarily the norm, and you don't need to feel as though you're beta, or you somehow need to score with more chicks, or that if you're not enjoying your single life, that's the reason why.

01:48:20.000 It's not the case, I will tell you.

01:48:22.000 In my life, being married has been a whole lot better.

01:48:25.000 So I got a few emails about that where people talk about marriage, especially because recently Hillary was on the show.

01:48:31.000 And people don't realize, you know, a lot of times they don't realize that young kids have pressure on them and it's not in the way that they would think.

01:48:37.000 A lot of young men get that pressure.

01:48:39.000 Yeah, I think the movies and it's Hollywood just kind of portrays all that in such a weird light that it kind of distorts and perverts how things should be.

01:48:47.000 It's never the fun guy in the films.

01:48:49.000 No, no, no, no.

01:48:50.000 It's always the guy with the annoying kids and the bitchy wife and they come into the house for Christmas and it's just a nightmare. 0.99

01:48:55.000 Or it's Krampus. 0.99

01:48:57.000 Yes!

01:48:58.000 This is a terrible moment when we were talking about that.

01:49:00.000 And then at the end, they tied in like, well, actually, it's nice. 0.95

01:49:03.000 The family's fulfilled and they have some tender moment, but you know they just had to toss it in to justify all the crap they tossed on the nuclear family. 0.63

01:49:11.000 So, ah, maybe it helps somebody, maybe it doesn't.

01:49:13.000 We'll be back with Anthony Cumia.

01:49:14.000 Anthony Cumia.

01:49:15.000 Anthony Cumia.

01:49:15.000 Mia.

01:49:15.000 Stay tuned.

01:49:16.000 Okay, so this next guest, right... 0.94

01:49:40.000 He's a professional troll. 0.99

01:49:42.000 Like, you know, oh, oh, oh, I said racist s**t, but aren't I funny? 0.99

01:49:46.000 But it's not very funny. 0.99

01:49:48.000 He claims he's gay, so...

01:49:51.000 Of course I'm gay, so I get a pass, right? 0.99

01:49:54.000 And it says racist s**t. 0.99

01:49:56.000 Milo Yiannopoulos. 0.98

01:49:58.000 Yeah, I'm not Nero.

01:50:00.000 I'm Gavin McInnes.

01:50:02.000 I had to dye my hair for a movie role.

01:50:05.000 I was playing the role of a young man in a movie, so I tried to take off the beard and the mustache to de-age myself.

01:50:11.000 Didn't work out great.

01:50:13.000 I'm not trying to say I'm handsome, but I had to dye my hair for a movie role. 0.99

01:50:16.000 Then why are you even here, you formerly bearded, blonde-haired, hipster f***? 0.99

01:50:21.000 Like, seriously? 0.99

01:50:23.000 I had to bleach this for a movie roll.

01:50:24.000 What's your excuse with your mustache?

01:50:26.000 Jesus Christ, you don't think we can see all that fuzz?

01:50:29.000 You look like Wilford Brimley in drag. 1.00

01:50:32.000 You chauvinist Canadian f**k! 1.00

01:50:36.000 I don't have to take this! 1.00

01:50:37.000 It's funny you say Canadian, because hosers say f*** after every single sentence. 1.00

01:50:41.000 Like, how's it going, f***? 1.00

01:50:43.000 And you say f*** more than hosers. 1.00

01:50:45.000 It's sounding like an affectation. 0.99

01:50:47.000 It's sounding like someone told you to be edgy by using f***, and it's become your new like. 0.99

01:50:52.000 No! 1.00

01:50:52.000 You're like, f***! 1.00

01:50:53.000 No, I say f***! 0.99

01:50:55.000 So that's how people know I'm in deep! 0.98

01:50:58.000 What?

01:50:59.000 Why don't you guys talk about real issues like the Armenian genocide?

01:51:02.000 That's what we want to hear about.

01:51:04.000 The injustices of the Turks over the years. 1.00

01:51:06.000 Especially the young Turks. 0.59

01:51:08.000 Why don't you do a whole special during Armenian History Month about all the horrible things. 1.00

01:51:13.000 Do Armenians have a month? 0.99

01:51:15.000 Because you guys could fill it up with your horrible young Turkish crimes. 1.00

01:51:19.000 Okay, right? 0.99

01:51:20.000 It's so predictable.

01:51:21.000 Of course he's going to bring up the Armenian Genocide.

01:51:23.000 Oh, oh, the Armenian Genocide, therefore you're wrong. 1.00

01:51:25.000 And f*** you! 1.00

01:51:27.000 F*** you, Gavin McGrath! 1.00

01:51:28.000 We'll try to have a reasonable discussion. 1.00

01:51:57.000 Stop it.

01:51:58.000 That's embarrassing.

01:51:59.000 You're embarrassing.

01:52:01.000 This next guest, who actually, Nick DiPaolo, last time he was on, said he is a comedy savant.

01:52:06.000 You can follow all of his work at compoundmedia.com.

01:52:09.000 They have Gavin McInnes, all kinds of programs.

01:52:11.000 They're really blowing it up.

01:52:12.000 Anthony Cumia, thanks for being with us, sir.

01:52:14.000 Thank you, sir.

01:52:16.000 Always a pleasure.

01:52:17.000 I enjoy your show, and of course your tweets are hilarious.

01:52:22.000 Depends.

01:52:22.000 Depends on the day, and depends on whether I support David Duke or not, as I learned this.

01:52:27.000 Yes, have you disavowed?

01:52:29.000 Have you disavowed?

01:52:30.000 Well, not only that, even when I was like, listen, David Duke's kind of a dirtbag, and it was a set-up question.

01:52:35.000 Why is this hard?

01:52:36.000 How dare you disrespect Dr.

01:52:38.000 David Duke?

01:52:39.000 He's a doctor now?

01:52:42.000 Doctor!

01:52:42.000 I didn't know that.

01:52:44.000 So there's no winning.

01:52:45.000 There's no winning with it.

01:52:46.000 No, no, no.

01:52:47.000 Okay, so speaking of which, this is, I mean, obviously with your show being more comedy-centric, the Hillary Health stuff, that just, it must be like catnip for your show.

01:52:57.000 The longer this whole process goes on, about a little over a year in with this whole campaign, it's been insane.

01:53:06.000 And just when you think it can't get crazier, it gets crazier.

01:53:10.000 And Hillary just, you know, collapsing. 1.00

01:53:13.000 I had a moment of silence the other day at the exact minute that Hillary collapsed at ground zero.

01:53:19.000 We took a little time out.

01:53:23.000 Was it a piping 74 degrees where you were?

01:53:26.000 Yes.

01:53:27.000 Oh, it was just balmy.

01:53:28.000 I have a Hillary heat index.

01:53:30.000 When it's 76 and breezy, the Hillary heat index is 115. 0.68

01:53:35.000 What happens when it's 84?

01:53:36.000 You kill a guy? 0.80

01:53:38.000 Yeah.

01:53:39.000 Yeah, quite the trail of bodies around her. 0.55

01:53:43.000 No, it's gotten ridiculous.

01:53:45.000 And the way they try to spin it, and the media not even attempting anymore.

01:53:50.000 Not even attempting to come off unbiased.

01:53:53.000 They are in her corner, firmly, not denying it anymore.

01:53:57.000 And they're unapologetic. 1.00

01:53:59.000 It's pathetic. 1.00

01:54:00.000 And still, Trump... 1.00

01:54:03.000 It's amazing.

01:54:05.000 If I had a nickel for every phone update I've gotten from CNN saying, Hillary's okay. 0.58

01:54:10.000 She said so herself.

01:54:11.000 Hillary's good.

01:54:12.000 All day Monday, every few hours.

01:54:13.000 She had a V8. She's hydrated now.

01:54:18.000 Splash for extra refreshments.

01:54:20.000 Who knew the Clinton body count would actually include Clinton at this point?

01:54:25.000 We've gotten that far around the She can't trust herself.

01:54:47.000 But, here's the deal.

01:54:49.000 They lied.

01:54:50.000 Even if it's pneumonia.

01:54:52.000 They said she was fine Friday.

01:54:54.000 So is it possible she has pneumonia?

01:54:56.000 Yeah, that stands to reason.

01:54:57.000 Is it possible they lied because it's all they know how to do?

01:55:00.000 Yes!

01:55:01.000 There are so many people that if they came out on Friday, that Friday, and said, hey, our candidate here has pneumonia, everybody would go, oh, okay.

01:55:12.000 There would be one person, maybe one nut going, oh, really?

01:55:15.000 Is it pneumonia?

01:55:16.000 But for the most part, you'd believe it.

01:55:18.000 With Hillary and that whole organization over there, you cannot believe anything that comes out of her corner. 1.00

01:55:24.000 You just can't do it.

01:55:25.000 And when they said pneumonia, I immediately called BS on it because it just sounds like another lie to cover up something that's going on over there.

01:55:35.000 Have you ever had pneumonia?

01:55:37.000 I have not, but I made fun of Hillary's cough about a week and a half ago.

01:55:41.000 Overnight, I got a horrible cough. 0.99

01:55:44.000 She's a witch. 1.00

01:55:45.000 I believe she conjures. 0.86

01:55:47.000 She's got a doll with Camilla.

01:55:48.000 She's sticking pins in it. 1.00

01:55:49.000 Yeah, pins in it and like phlegm down.

01:55:51.000 She's coughing in my doll face. 0.97

01:55:54.000 I don't know.

01:55:56.000 I've had bronchitis, but it's relatively similar.

01:56:00.000 Either way, I've known people with pneumonia, and they've never done this.

01:56:03.000 Thinner than that action.

01:56:04.000 No.

01:56:05.000 Like, that's not typical.

01:56:06.000 My dad had pneumonia.

01:56:07.000 My dad had, like, really bad pneumonia once.

01:56:09.000 That was never part of the routine.

01:56:11.000 That was never part of the routine.

01:56:11.000 He never did this?

01:56:13.000 No.

01:56:14.000 Yeah, that whole video of her teetering over while the Secret Service were eagerly awaiting the arrival of the vehicle, you see her legs just being dragged along the ground, and they're just, oh, she seems to have lost her footing.

01:56:30.000 On the way to the van, or, oh, she was a little weak-kneed.

01:56:34.000 No, she was out, out! 1.00

01:56:36.000 Sometimes you trip getting on the broomstick.

01:56:39.000 It happens.

01:56:41.000 You were right, the way they were carrying her into the vehicle.

01:56:44.000 It was like how they carried Steve McQueen back into the prison in, uh...

01:56:48.000 Copy on, was it?

01:56:50.000 No, no, what was the movie?

01:56:51.000 I just forgot it.

01:56:52.000 Oh, Great Escape.

01:56:53.000 Yeah, The Great Escape, where they're carrying him back in with his rubber ball.

01:56:56.000 I couldn't believe it.

01:56:59.000 All of a sudden, I'm like, and like Jared talked about, Naki, Jared, you mentioned this.

01:57:02.000 It just looked like another day at the office.

01:57:04.000 That's what's so disturbing.

01:57:05.000 They were just like, ah, this is happening.

01:57:07.000 Well, let's...

01:57:08.000 It was well choreographed.

01:57:10.000 It looked like they had drilled for it in the past.

01:57:13.000 No one was shocked or surprised.

01:57:15.000 They're just like, oh, my job is to hide any cameras from fainting Hillary over there. 1.00

01:57:20.000 It's like one of those goats that just teeter over.

01:57:23.000 Well, you just compare it to the Ryan Lochte scenario, when Dancing with the Stars, where a guy gets on set, and it's an event, right?

01:57:30.000 They tackle him, there's this energy, and you've got the potential president of the United States doing this, and it's just, ah, it's a Saturday down at ground zero.

01:57:40.000 So it's not how they react, typically.

01:57:42.000 But you're right, it's, um...

01:57:44.000 Listen, I have tried to support Trump where he's right and criticize him when fair.

01:57:48.000 And there is a lot to criticize.

01:57:50.000 I mean, you're a New York guy, but I've heard you talk about something.

01:57:52.000 You're like, God, you can't believe Trump says some stuff.

01:57:55.000 I think everyone feels that way about him.

01:57:57.000 Yeah, he's a little kooky.

01:57:57.000 Sure.

01:58:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:58:00.000 And sometimes with her, everything is premeditated and dishonest.

01:58:03.000 With him, it stems from thoughtlessness.

01:58:06.000 Sometimes.

01:58:08.000 But the comparison, like you said, I mean, today we have the DNC leaks.

01:58:11.000 And then right away, either something comes out with the Trump Foundation or something is, we've got to bury DNC leaks, where they're promising positions with the post office if they donate enough to the party.

01:58:22.000 I mean, have you been following this?

01:58:24.000 Absolutely.

01:58:25.000 They cannot throw enough distractions out to the people to try to keep them from reading.

01:58:32.000 As a matter of fact, what's her name, the temporary head of the DNC? That was put in...

01:58:37.000 Not Warren.

01:58:39.000 Is it Warren?

01:58:40.000 Wasserman Schultz?

01:58:40.000 I'm confused.

01:58:41.000 Wasserman Schultz is out.

01:58:42.000 No, Wasserman is the one they threw out, and then they brought the other woman in. 0.97

01:58:44.000 She said today, she said, I would not recommend reading any of the WikiLeaks emails because they may be full of malware.

01:58:54.000 So steer clear of those.

01:58:56.000 It's these Hail Mary attempts at trying to keep people from finding out what a bunch of detractors Don't read Hillary's tax proposal! 1.00

01:59:05.000 It's a pop-up for gay porn! 1.00

01:59:06.000 Just avoid it! 0.99

01:59:09.000 We'll be right back with Anthony Cumia of compoundmedia.com.

01:59:13.000 It's not going to get better if that's what you're expecting.

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01:59:42.000 Yeah, and you're also going to go to www.

01:59:44.000 Crowder.com where you have all kinds of articles and more stuff than you see here.

01:59:48.000 Hey, why are you brushing your teeth in the shower?

01:59:50.000 My favorite time.

01:59:51.000 I write it in GQ. Never thought about that.

01:59:53.000 that i guess it does all right glad to be back That outro was my mother-in-law.

02:00:18.000 And apparently we found a way around the YouTube copyright.

02:00:20.000 She was the fox.

02:00:22.000 She looks like Sally Field. 0.99

02:00:23.000 She's the sweetest lady.

02:00:24.000 She was a fox in a leopard print leotard.

02:00:26.000 Never would have known.

02:00:27.000 I just get too comfortable with myself when I look at that record album.

02:00:29.000 We have him back.

02:00:30.000 Compoundmedia.com.

02:00:32.000 I'm sorry you had to sit through that.

02:00:32.000 Anthony, come here.

02:00:34.000 That's okay.

02:00:34.000 You got some moves there, my friend.

02:00:36.000 Well, it's a big selling point for the program.

02:00:39.000 I bet it is.

02:00:40.000 We were talking about the DNC leaks.

02:00:43.000 Yeah, it is amazing.

02:00:44.000 This is one thing that you don't need to be a political pundit or talking head to understand that the DNC and leftism right now, they always want fewer voices.

02:00:54.000 They always want less transparency.

02:00:57.000 I mean, when have you ever heard them say, well, let's just let the chips fall where they may and give the public as much information as possible.

02:01:02.000 It's not a part of their platform.

02:01:04.000 No, the transparency thing really means nothing anymore.

02:01:10.000 When the Obama administration first came in, their whole thing was, oh, we are going to be the most transparent administration ever.

02:01:18.000 And Hillary is constantly crowing about transparency. 1.00

02:01:22.000 And it's just transparent, like a cinder block wall.

02:01:28.000 There's no seeing anything.

02:01:30.000 And they try to, they lie about it.

02:01:31.000 I've known people my whole life that you don't even have to lie.

02:01:35.000 And they do anyway.

02:01:36.000 You ever talk to somebody and go, hey, you ever see that movie?

02:01:38.000 And then they go, yeah.

02:01:40.000 And you start talking about it and you realize they never saw the movie.

02:01:42.000 And you're like, why didn't you just say you didn't see it?

02:01:45.000 That's how Hillary is. 1.00

02:01:46.000 Everything has to be a lie that comes out of her and her camp.

02:01:51.000 Like the hot sauce.

02:01:52.000 Well, technically, Obama hired the first tranny, right? 1.00

02:01:55.000 Wasn't it?

02:01:55.000 What was the cabinet role?

02:01:57.000 Remember that was a big deal?

02:01:58.000 Yeah, I forget.

02:01:59.000 Everyone was praising it.

02:02:01.000 I remember even I was on Red Eye, and they were like, well, this is bold.

02:02:04.000 And I was like, really?

02:02:05.000 I mean, who cares? 0.61

02:02:07.000 And I think the person turned out to be crazy, right?

02:02:09.000 Wasn't there a lie later on?

02:02:11.000 That makes perfect sense. 0.95

02:02:13.000 The other person turns out to be crazy.

02:02:16.000 Why are we so hung up on firsts?

02:02:19.000 Like, oh, we had the first black president, and now every subsequent president ever from now on has to be a first of something. 0.54

02:02:26.000 We need the next president to be the first woman president. 1.00

02:02:30.000 Right.

02:02:30.000 The first Hispanic president.

02:02:33.000 Can we just please get back and make people comfortable with just some dumb old white guy in there? 0.99

02:02:40.000 Yes, that's the takeaway from that. 0.99

02:02:43.000 Or like first, it's only when it's convenient.

02:02:44.000 Like, oh, it's the first black president. 0.98

02:02:46.000 It's also the first president to smoke crack with a terrorist. 0.95

02:02:48.000 Well, we don't need to talk about that. 0.98

02:02:51.000 What, are you singling him out because he's black? 0.98

02:02:53.000 Oh my god. 0.97

02:02:54.000 You did.

02:02:55.000 You did.

02:02:55.000 He also smoked crack.

02:02:56.000 Because he's black? 0.99

02:02:57.000 No, because he smoked crack. 0.99

02:02:59.000 It is tough.

02:03:01.000 It is tough right now.

02:03:02.000 Let me ask you this.

02:03:02.000 So kind of pivoting, you were talking about the media.

02:03:05.000 I know you're friends with a lot of these people, so we have to be careful.

02:03:08.000 And we've talked about this with Nick DiPaolo.

02:03:09.000 But I do feel like now it's never been more blatant where you see the comedy sphere, the entertainment industry, but a lot of stand-up comedians, they are just doing the bidding for the Democratic Party.

02:03:20.000 That's got to tick you off as someone who's been a part of it for so long.

02:03:25.000 I've never understood why the entertainment business has this fascination with the left and, you know, this time around with Hillary and they're promoting her and trying to get her elected. 0.94

02:03:37.000 I don't get it.

02:03:38.000 They're the worst when it comes to actual freedom of speech, which I believe freedom of expression, freedom of speech is a big part of entertainment and especially comedy.

02:03:47.000 Like, they are trying to take the comedic context out of everything and make it seem like whether you're a comedian or a surgeon or a judge, it all goes into the same category.

02:03:56.000 You made a joke about this horrible thing.

02:04:00.000 And it doesn't matter.

02:04:01.000 They don't look at it as comedic context. 0.99

02:04:04.000 Everyone is Hitler or this one, misogynistic, you're a homophobe. 0.97

02:04:09.000 There's a context there. 0.99

02:04:11.000 To entertainment.

02:04:12.000 And there's a freedom of expression that we're supposed to have that the left just wants eliminated.

02:04:18.000 And I don't understand how people in the entertainment business want to embrace that. 0.93

02:04:21.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

02:04:22.000 Well, particularly like female comedians. 1.00

02:04:24.000 I mean, obviously Schumer is the biggest name when you've worked with her and Sarah Silverman.

02:04:28.000 And last time we talked about this, I'm sure they're still your friends, but it has gotten so grindingly annoying that most people I know who are fans are like, I can't take it anymore.

02:04:57.000 Yeah.

02:04:57.000 And that's the left, though.

02:04:59.000 They look at you, they'll say things like, oh, oh, what, the Benghazi thing?

02:05:04.000 And it's like, you can't just, yes, the Benghazi.

02:05:07.000 Oh, what?

02:05:08.000 Oh, the email thing?

02:05:10.000 Yes!

02:05:11.000 The email thing! 1.00

02:05:12.000 They say it like, just because they're saying it like that, that you're stupid, we know everything. 1.00

02:05:17.000 You're just hung up on stupid stuff. 1.00

02:05:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:05:19.000 Yes, hung up on stupid stuff. 1.00

02:05:22.000 We have this guy, a good example. 1.00

02:05:24.000 He's with Young Turks. 0.78

02:05:26.000 He's called me out.

02:05:27.000 I'm like, okay, I'll debate you.

02:05:28.000 He's like, oh, I'm not going to debate a guy who thinks Hitler was a socialist.

02:05:33.000 It's in the name.

02:05:34.000 Nazi.

02:05:34.000 National Socialist Party.

02:05:35.000 It's in the name.

02:05:36.000 But they say it like it's absurd. 0.99

02:05:37.000 And people are like, oh, what a retard. 1.00

02:05:39.000 He thinks Nazis were socialists. 0.99

02:05:41.000 Yes!

02:05:42.000 Yes! 0.95

02:05:42.000 Just because you say it like it's silly. 0.95

02:05:45.000 National Socialist. 0.66

02:05:47.000 Well, it's more nationalist.

02:05:49.000 We had Sally Cohn on this week.

02:05:51.000 God bless her. 1.00

02:05:52.000 She's really a nice person.

02:05:53.000 She'll have a discussion.

02:05:53.000 But she kept talking about ISIS. Or she kept saying right-wing.

02:05:57.000 I was like, what is right-wing about zero freedom?

02:06:02.000 Come on.

02:06:03.000 Isn't the right about less government in your life?

02:06:06.000 And there it is.

02:06:08.000 Tyranny.

02:06:09.000 And they try to put it on the right.

02:06:11.000 And alt-right has been a big thing with Hillary and the rest of the lefties over there. 0.99

02:06:17.000 They're trying to portray, like the basket of deplorables, they're trying to portray so many people in that light, blaming Trump and Trump followers for the people that follow them.

02:06:30.000 Right.

02:06:31.000 But you can't possibly blame Trump because there are some pretty far-right people that want him to be president.

02:06:39.000 Right.

02:06:40.000 Just as you can't blame Hillary for having a terrorist's dad cheering behind her at one of our rallies. 1.00

02:06:48.000 Oh, that is funny.

02:06:50.000 It is funny.

02:06:51.000 You just want to have that in a gif on a loop, like a morphine trip.

02:06:54.000 It's like, that's a terrorist dad right there.

02:07:00.000 It is awful.

02:07:01.000 It is, though, I do think, particularly from the entertainment standpoint, you're seeing a lot of rebound now.

02:07:06.000 Yeah.

02:07:06.000 And we talked with Nick about this, and he disagreed.

02:07:09.000 I think a lot of people who established themselves in comedy a longer time ago, they still have this sort of puritanical view of it.

02:07:15.000 The comedy club scene, anywhere in traditional stand-up comedy now, there really is a barrier to entry.

02:07:21.000 And that's why I think you're seeing a lot of people just go online.

02:07:24.000 It's changing where they're going.

02:07:25.000 The entertainment industry is not welcoming to anyone outside of this narrow point of view.

02:07:30.000 Have you felt that shift?

02:07:32.000 Oh my god, I was in it before it really started being exposed for what it is.

02:07:38.000 I mean, I got fired from SiriusXM for tweeting about me being assaulted in Times Square. 0.99

02:07:45.000 You assaulted by black people! 1.00

02:07:45.000 I was assaulted, I tweeted about it, and I got fired. 1.00

02:07:49.000 That was, and to me, I was just like, okay, it's just gotten way out of hand if that's what's happened.

02:07:54.000 And then in the two years or a little over two years that that happened, people started catching on going, oh, this is what's going on.

02:08:03.000 And I'm like, yes, finally, you're seeing what what happened.

02:08:07.000 Right.

02:08:07.000 There is a pushback.

02:08:09.000 And because I'm kind of in that circle of people, I see it.

02:08:13.000 They're disgusted and they are going about it themselves now, just like I've had to do here.

02:08:18.000 Build my own studio.

02:08:19.000 I don't have a boss that could fire me anymore.

02:08:23.000 Right.

02:08:23.000 It's because they're petrified of being thrown with one of those scarlet letters.

02:08:30.000 What are you, an R, racist, a homophobe, a misogynistic? 0.97

02:08:33.000 They're petrified of getting that label.

02:08:36.000 So they will appease anybody that complains to them that one of their employees is a whatever initial they want to throw on them.

02:08:45.000 Well, there's a real witch hunt, though, in comedy that there didn't used to be, where it's like, ah, this person's a Republican, but now it's like, you can't be in this, you're not allowed to be a part of this if you don't think like we, that's a big difference, whether it's, you know, college humor or the funny or die, you know, even in the online sphere, it is a witch hunt, like, oh, if there is a successful, just non-liberal, not even conservative person anywhere, we have to, all hands on deck assault, and I've seen a lot of people behind the scenes who are, what?

02:09:13.000 You and I know them.

02:09:14.000 Way more conservative than they'll let on.

02:09:15.000 I can't wade into it.

02:09:17.000 They can't.

02:09:18.000 There are so many people in Hollywood.

02:09:20.000 There's those select few that have literally destroyed their career by coming out and saying, hey, I'm a conservative.

02:09:25.000 Hey, I'm for Trump.

02:09:26.000 And then there's a bunch of other ones that just are closeted, like the old communist days.

02:09:33.000 You don't want to be blacklisted out of the business, so they have to present themselves as liberals.

02:09:39.000 And I think there's a...

02:09:41.000 A huge portion that are not.

02:09:44.000 They don't have to be conservative, but they certainly aren't looking at Hillary as the next messiah, like we see Streisand or Bette Midler or any of the other favorites of the gays come out and say. 0.51

02:09:55.000 They're kind of interchangeable in mind.

02:09:57.000 It's kind of like Snowden and Assange.

02:09:59.000 Bette Midler and Streisand, like, which one did that one? 0.96

02:10:02.000 Which one was funny, girl? 0.79

02:10:03.000 Which one lives in a gated house that says what we should be doing?

02:10:09.000 Well, you know, that's a good example.

02:10:11.000 I go back to it, but because Amy Schumer, in your state, pushed gun control with Unki Chuck, here's one thing to me. 0.73

02:10:18.000 I think that's a very important litmus test, because if you are a comedian right now, Pushing the envelope in any way, you have to be a Second Amendment supporter.

02:10:28.000 I mean, you know and I know the kind of threats you get.

02:10:29.000 And I don't mean online drama, but dealing with the FBI, you carry.

02:10:33.000 I can't imagine it.

02:10:34.000 Now, it tells me you're not taking any risks as a comedian.

02:10:37.000 It doesn't matter how much blue material you do, but you're not really pissing anyone off who'd be a risk if you're willing to ban guns.

02:10:45.000 Well, as far as Amy Schumer goes and her Uncle Chucky, when an entertainer has an opinion and they state their opinion, that's one thing.

02:10:56.000 I'm not going to go off on, oh, wow, this person thinks this.

02:11:00.000 Like, I find I like Patton Oswalt.

02:11:02.000 We are worlds, worlds apart politically, and I get enraged at some of the stuff I read that he posts on Twitter.

02:11:10.000 But I'm friends with him, and I think he's very funny.

02:11:14.000 I feel like he's a conservative or a right-winger in a lot of ways who doesn't realize it.

02:11:18.000 When you sit there like Larry David...

02:11:20.000 Yeah, there's something going on there.

02:11:21.000 There's something going on there.

02:11:22.000 But he's got opinions, and that's one thing.

02:11:25.000 When Amy started sidling up with Chuck and actually moving to limit... 0.98

02:11:34.000 Guns to people, citizens, that becomes something different. 0.90

02:11:38.000 And I cannot go along with something like that.

02:11:41.000 So I have definitely said, like, I do not appreciate the fact that Amy is trying to get people's constitutional rights taken away. 0.99

02:11:49.000 That's more than an opinion.

02:11:50.000 Yeah, whoever it is.

02:11:51.000 And it removes you from it.

02:11:52.000 If ever you see that person in a film, that's all you're thinking about, you know?

02:11:56.000 Right.

02:11:57.000 And you can't have it...

02:11:58.000 Well, the worst part is, too, is Lena Dunham.

02:12:00.000 I mean, I find Amy Schumer funny, but, like, you've got... 0.95

02:12:02.000 Lena Dunham is just a talentless amoeba, and I'm like, Amy, why are you... 0.95

02:12:06.000 What is... 0.94

02:12:07.000 Like, if there was ever more clearly a Robin to a Batman, it's Lena Dunham to...

02:12:12.000 I get Dunham cozying up to Taylor Swift and Schumer.

02:12:15.000 I don't understand it the other way around.

02:12:17.000 I don't get it.

02:12:18.000 Does she hang out at the same nightclubs as you guys or something?

02:12:21.000 I don't get it either. 0.99

02:12:23.000 Yeah, you don't want to be the girl that the guys at the bar at the end of the night, they have to look and be the wingman and be like, ah, shit, I gotta go out with her. 1.00

02:12:33.000 Maybe that's why they're hanging out with her, to make themselves look better. 1.00

02:12:37.000 Everyone is an ugly friend.

02:12:39.000 Well, and that's this whole liberal politically correct, that's a side effect of that whole thing. 0.82

02:12:44.000 When she takes her clothes off and everybody's like, you go girl, you're so brave and beautiful.

02:12:52.000 Nobody's shaming.

02:12:53.000 And then an attractive girl poses in scantily clad. 0.99

02:12:58.000 They're like, oh, disgusting. 0.99

02:13:00.000 She's just making herself a piece of meat out there. 1.00

02:13:04.000 And every guy is going, no, we want to see that one.

02:13:06.000 Yeah, I know.

02:13:07.000 Look how brave you are.

02:13:08.000 We want to see that girl.

02:13:10.000 And the irony is they are condemning the one thing that knows no racial boundaries, it knows no economic class. 0.99

02:13:17.000 The male erection is a veritable beauty weatherstick. 0.98

02:13:21.000 I've said that. 0.99

02:13:21.000 Like, it doesn't care what color you are, how much money you have, and I'm like, that's just sexist. 0.99

02:13:25.000 It really is the most fair organ of If only we could just have a bunch of John Thomases as judges in this country.

02:13:25.000 It's not.

02:13:35.000 Justice would be blind.

02:13:37.000 Anthony Cumia, Compound Media, thank you so much, sir, for being with us.

02:13:41.000 And we'll have to have you back soon.

02:13:42.000 Thank you, absolutely, man.

02:13:43.000 Thanks a lot.

02:13:44.000 Absolutely.

02:13:45.000 And that was, well, we'll be back.

02:13:46.000 We'll be back.

02:13:47.000 For breaking news on Lauer with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson.

02:14:13.000 We're taking them out alive as Hillary Clinton has restarted her campaign and stopped in Missouri at its longest running most famous local ice cream shop.

02:14:25.000 Truly a picture of hell.

02:14:34.000 We'll keep you abreast as the story unfolds.

02:14:37.000 For Otterwood Crowder, I'm Pari Mahathat.

02:14:42.000 We'll be right back.

02:15:11.000 Got my breath there.

02:15:26.000 I will never let you go Jack.

02:15:28.000 Until I'm slightly inconvenient, then you crunch a lead.

02:15:32.000 Crack! 0.98

02:15:32.000 Bye! 0.98

02:15:33.000 Into the shark pit!

02:15:34.000 Shark pit, shark tank.

02:15:36.000 What a horrible film.

02:15:39.000 It was classic, and it was good.

02:15:42.000 I don't know.

02:15:43.000 It was bad, it was good.

02:15:44.000 I don't know what to make of it anymore.

02:15:45.000 There wasn't even any reason to toss him into the ocean.

02:15:47.000 He was frozen to the raft.

02:15:49.000 He wasn't going anywhere.

02:15:50.000 I don't know, it was a little five-year-old Jared in the theater during the boobie scene.

02:15:53.000 In the boobie scene? 0.58

02:15:54.000 Yeah, with steam in the car.

02:15:56.000 The problem is with that, I forever knew Kate Winslet as the booby lady.

02:16:00.000 You know, I was convinced as a kid that she must have.

02:16:03.000 She must have been wearing her big old rubber suit.

02:16:06.000 As a kid, I was so naive to think...

02:16:08.000 She would never go naked.

02:16:09.000 That's a really convincing rubber suit.

02:16:11.000 Let it never be spoken that you were an intelligent child.

02:16:13.000 No.

02:16:14.000 Anthony Cumia, it was great to have him.

02:16:16.000 Of course, everyone listening terrestrially or if you're watching on YouTube, you can subscribe on iTunes.

02:16:22.000 All of the Young Turks videos that you've seen in the commercial breaks, by the way, they're hidden across YouTube right now.

02:16:27.000 So we did an interview with Gavin, Lauren Southern, Sargon of Akkad, and one with yours truly.

02:16:31.000 And there might be some more.

02:16:35.000 Real quick, I have this up on my screen.

02:16:38.000 Harvard scientists were paid, it turned out, to push the fat is bad myth by conflict of interest with those making money off of sugar.

02:16:48.000 So the sugar industry paid prestigious Harvard scientists to publish research saying that fat, particularly saturated fat, was the key to heart disease.

02:16:55.000 Turns out that in moderate amounts it's fine, and sugar is actually a lot worse for you than they let on. 1.00

02:17:00.000 Damn you, big sugar. 1.00

02:17:01.000 Here's the thing. 1.00

02:17:02.000 People will right away say big sugar.

02:17:03.000 What's really important is this was only able to get through and be so pervasive because of the environmental lobby, also synonymous back then with the vegetarian, the vegan lobby, who were very, very adamantly against any animal product saturated fat.

02:17:16.000 So they were all too happy and complicit to be on board with, oh, okay, let's vilify saturated fat and switch us to hydrogenated vegetable oil.

02:17:24.000 So all that stuff that you don't like, the hydrogenated oils at McDonald's...

02:17:27.000 Well, they used to use tallow.

02:17:28.000 They used to use beef lard.

02:17:31.000 Vegetarians, environmentalists were mad about that, and so there was collusion here.

02:17:34.000 Here's the point.

02:17:35.000 Whenever people say, well, it's settled science, and they show you a bunch of government-funded studies, I'm not saying that science is flawed.

02:17:40.000 Science isn't, but the execution can be.

02:17:43.000 People are flawed.

02:17:45.000 So this idea that science is the endgame if there's some kind of consensus from government employees, whether it's saturated fat, which we know to be false, Whether it's this idea that a one-degree increase over the next century will destroy mankind on Earth as we know it, so we need to send the Kyoto Protocol and give over trillions of dollars to international governing bodies.

02:18:03.000 The execution of science can absolutely be tainted.

02:18:07.000 It can absolutely be perverted.

02:18:09.000 And that brings us back to this idea.

02:18:11.000 What's the takeaway?

02:18:12.000 We're talking about this, you know, the truth.

02:18:14.000 You don't have to go to the extreme for it to matter.

02:18:16.000 We're talking with Sally Cohn about Islam.

02:18:18.000 You know, we don't just have to talk about ISIS burning people. 1.00

02:18:21.000 Extended version of it.

02:18:22.000 By the way, it's an extended debate online, lottowithclatter.com, Friday morning, whenever you're listening to this.

02:18:28.000 Burning Christians alive in cages is terrible, absolutely. 0.97

02:18:31.000 ISIS is terrible. 1.00

02:18:32.000 But guess what? 0.97

02:18:33.000 In Turkey, in Egypt, in the UAE, where women are required several witnesses to rape, otherwise they're jailed.

02:18:40.000 Where women aren't allowed to drive without their husbands saying so. 1.00

02:18:44.000 Where death for apostates is very common in the Islamic world. 0.60

02:18:48.000 That's enough.

02:18:50.000 You don't need ISIS. Islam is enough. 1.00

02:18:53.000 Islam is bad enough. 1.00

02:18:54.000 The same thing with Hillary Clinton. 1.00

02:18:55.000 We were talking about this.

02:18:56.000 Hillary Clinton.

02:18:57.000 They lied about the pneumonia.

02:18:59.000 They lied about the health issues.

02:19:01.000 That's enough.

02:19:02.000 You don't need her to have AIDS or Parkinson's.

02:19:05.000 You don't need her to have a body double. 0.99

02:19:07.000 They lied.

02:19:08.000 That's enough.

02:19:09.000 And sometimes the truth is far more potent than a lie.

02:19:15.000 It's far more effective than a lie.

02:19:17.000 And that comes back to your worldview.

02:19:19.000 We're talking about that with economics.

02:19:20.000 Does your worldview allow for the value, the principle that, hey, you know what?

02:19:25.000 Regardless of all of this, yeah, that would create some more clicks.

02:19:28.000 Yeah, that would create some more web traffic.

02:19:30.000 Yeah, a body double would be a more sweet story to have, right? 0.58

02:19:35.000 It'd be more juicy.

02:19:37.000 But does the truth matter?

02:19:40.000 And the beauty is that right now with the arguments that we're making, the truth is enough.

02:19:43.000 The truth is convincing.

02:19:44.000 If you're not desensitizing people to the truth by spewing all these things.

02:19:48.000 Just like rape culture. 1.00

02:19:49.000 Rape is really bad. 0.93

02:19:50.000 It's bad enough. 0.53

02:19:52.000 One in three women, one in four women are not raped. 0.74

02:19:54.000 If it's one in ten, if it's one in twenty, if it's one in forty, which is far more likely depending on the references you use, that's bad enough.

02:20:02.000 That's bad enough.

02:20:03.000 You don't need to lie about it. 0.51

02:20:04.000 And so what happens, like Jared said, which was a good point, you desensitize people to rape. 0.95

02:20:08.000 You desensitize people to Islam. 0.99

02:20:09.000 The only reason Islam is able to come in as a Trojan horse to the back door right now is because you have leftists going, well, not all Muslims are burning people alive.

02:20:19.000 No, but the vast majority of Muslims do support apostasy laws or some sort of grossly violating of human rights Sharia law. 0.96

02:20:29.000 That's enough.

02:20:30.000 Well, you know, Hillary Clinton doesn't have Parkinson's, so I don't know.

02:20:34.000 It doesn't matter.

02:20:35.000 It's enough that she lied about the pneumonia, that they lied to the press for a long time.

02:20:41.000 With the email situation, that's another one.

02:20:43.000 People going, oh, did Hillary Clinton, what did she send?

02:20:46.000 She didn't send anything that was a real national security threat.

02:20:50.000 Even if so, it doesn't matter.

02:20:53.000 It's enough that she broke the law.

02:20:54.000 It's enough that she knowingly went against protocol.

02:20:56.000 It's enough that she lied under oath.

02:20:58.000 But when people try to go with something bigger and build it into something that it's not and use the conspiracy theory, again, that matters with the worldview, the values, the principles where you say, you know what, I'm not going to do that.

02:21:10.000 Because my safeguard is truth.

02:21:15.000 There's the added benefit.

02:21:16.000 The truth is enough.

02:21:17.000 You don't have to Michael Bay the truth.

02:21:19.000 You don't have to Michael Bay the truth.

02:21:20.000 Bigger, better, more explosions.

02:21:22.000 More city destruction.

02:21:24.000 One would argue that Pearl Harbor in and of itself was a fascinating enough story. 0.99

02:21:29.000 I didn't need Josh Hartnett's nipples. 0.98

02:21:32.000 They weren't required. 0.99

02:21:34.000 Sometimes the truth is enough.

02:21:37.000 And you see this a lot on the right and the left.

02:21:40.000 But I'm particularly disappointed to see it on the right, where people just take something that's untrue and run with it because it's a better story.

02:21:47.000 Or they know that's a trend that they can tap into.

02:21:51.000 Listen, you should tap into trends.

02:21:52.000 You should be relevant.

02:21:53.000 That's all great.

02:21:54.000 But the truth does matter.

02:21:56.000 And we've talked about why the truth matters, and that should be first and foremost.

02:22:01.000 But the beauty is here.

02:22:02.000 In the long run, truth is more effective.

02:22:05.000 The truth, as it relates to most of the issues now, whether it's immigration, whether it's terrorism, whether it's Hillary Clinton, the truth is more effective than the lie.

02:22:15.000 And in the long term, your credibility won't suffer.

02:22:17.000 Truth is better than the lie.

02:22:20.000 Talk to you next week.

02:22:21.000 Maybe.

02:22:23.000 Never daily.

Louder with Crowder - September 16, 2016

#91 HILLARY CLINTON HAS AIDS! Sally Kohn, Andrew Klavan and Anthony Cumia | Louder With Crowder

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