Louder with Crowder - #93 TO THE SAFE SPACES! Andrew Bogut and Christopher Titus | Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 Okay, come on.

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00:00:20.000 I don't know what's wrong.

00:00:21.000 It's not working.

00:00:22.000 We're two minutes late here.

00:00:23.000 We've got to get on.

00:00:23.000 I know.

00:00:24.000 I said I know.

00:00:24.000 It's just...

00:00:25.000 Trikaster isn't working, though.

00:00:26.000 Okay, get it working.

00:00:28.000 We're going to have to start late.

00:00:28.000 It's not...

00:00:30.000 It's not going to work.

00:00:31.000 to assume the position.

00:00:31.000 All right.

00:00:31.000 You know what to...

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00:00:35.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.

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00:00:53.000 Politics.

00:00:54.000 Civility.

00:00:55.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

00:00:57.000 Entertainment.

00:00:58.000 I don't like entertainment.

00:01:00.000 And a whole bunch of other stuff.

00:01:03.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

00:01:05.000 You have a very unhealthy body.

00:01:06.000 You should have a horrible body image. 0.96

00:01:07.000 Not a big home improvement market in Detroit.

00:01:10.000 We are definitely going to get letters.

00:01:12.000 You're listening to Talk Radio's Strangest Animal.

00:01:16.000 You're a strange animal, that's what I know.

00:01:20.000 You're getting louder with Crowder. 0.99

00:01:23.000 But you're a strange animal, I've got to follow.

00:01:27.000 Oh, I'm in this spirit to sound.

00:01:31.000 Glad to be with you.

00:01:35.000 That is the sound of the weekend.

00:01:36.000 That was my doggo, Hopper, getting angered at the dancing.

00:01:40.000 Even he finds it offensive.

00:01:42.000 Lotto with Kreider.com for all references.

00:01:44.000 I am your host, Stephen Kreider.

00:01:45.000 Producing with me in video studio, as always, is Jared, who is not gay. 0.98

00:01:49.000 Follow him on Twitter at NotGayJarred.

00:01:50.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:01:52.000 Draw your own conclusions.

00:01:53.000 We good?

00:01:54.000 We're good.

00:01:54.000 Yeah.

00:01:56.000 You don't sound like you're sure, By the way, if you hear me drinking my beverage tonight, it's because Not Gay Jared had to remove my mute button.

00:02:03.000 Something with it was going haywire.

00:02:06.000 Big show.

00:02:07.000 Huge.

00:02:08.000 Unbelievable.

00:02:09.000 Don't think we've ever had such a big show.

00:02:10.000 We have NBA superstar Andrew Bogut.

00:02:14.000 Yep.

00:02:15.000 Little bit of a bad boy.

00:02:16.000 Going to get personal.

00:02:17.000 There's some back and forth that happened behind the scenes that will bring you in on the Inside Gag.

00:02:22.000 Andrew Bogut, Austin Peterson, former Libertarian candidate, just sound off on the debates from this week.

00:02:27.000 Christopher Titus, after the very heated gun debate, we're going to bring him on in the last hour.

00:02:33.000 Maybe those do happen.

00:02:33.000 He came back.

00:02:34.000 He came back.

00:02:35.000 And we'll talk about the fallout, maybe talk a little bit about this election.

00:02:39.000 We have a few segments we're also really having.

00:02:41.000 Donald Trump!

00:02:42.000 Donald Trump will be calling in toward the end of the program.

00:02:46.000 How did we forget that one off the bat?

00:02:47.000 I don't know how we forgot that one.

00:02:48.000 Donald Trump will be calling in.

00:02:49.000 Of course, as you know, he generally calls in.

00:02:50.000 He doesn't do the video.

00:02:53.000 He's a hard get through the video.

00:02:55.000 So we have that.

00:02:56.000 And then we'll be debunking the Adam Ruins Everything viral video about how a wall doesn't help with immigration.

00:03:02.000 Hint, a lot of it is untrue.

00:03:05.000 So, right off the bat, though, we did a live stream during the debate this week, and you can tweet us, by the way, at Ask Crowder if there are topics that you want to hear.

00:03:12.000 I always forget to say that, because sometimes we forget some topics, and people really want some.

00:03:16.000 They want to get some!

00:03:17.000 Get some feedback, get some chatter.

00:03:19.000 They want to get some chatter going on on Cheddar.

00:03:22.000 Why are we doing this?

00:03:23.000 I don't know.

00:03:24.000 This is weird.

00:03:25.000 The debates occurred.

00:03:26.000 We live-streamed it.

00:03:27.000 I am astounded that we had, like, hundreds of thousands of people just watching us drink beers and live-stream the debate, so we will be doing that.

00:03:34.000 If that doesn't tell you about the state of America, nothing else does.

00:03:37.000 Well, apparently we made it palatable. 0.98

00:03:39.000 Like we said during that debate live-stream, if you're looking for cheerleading, if you're looking for, oh, damn, Trump got you, this isn't the program for you. 0.97

00:03:48.000 Here was my take on it. 0.97

00:03:50.000 We did it in wrap-up thoughts.

00:03:51.000 I've had some time to let it percolate.

00:03:54.000 Really strong first 15, 20 minutes, and then ironically enough didn't have the stamina to go into those sort of championship rounds.

00:04:03.000 Hillary Clinton pulled ahead. 0.93

00:04:04.000 If you look at the legitimate polls and focus groups, I know you have some on the right that – you can't use Drudge Report in an online poll, right?

00:04:13.000 Just like all these people used to say, you can't use the Ron Paul polls because he can mobilize people online.

00:04:17.000 Those aren't scientific.

00:04:18.000 Those aren't legitimate.

00:04:19.000 If you look at the actual focus groups that were run, yes, CNN oversampled liberals, but there were others.

00:04:26.000 Overwhelmingly, people thought Hillary won that debate. 1.00

00:04:29.000 However, however, Your Honor, Donald Trump stood to gain the most because expectations were so low for a lot of people.

00:04:37.000 People just want...

00:04:40.000 To have a reason to not vote Hillary Clinton.

00:04:42.000 The people who haven't decided yet, and in this election, that's more than ever in recent history.

00:04:46.000 They want this.

00:04:47.000 Just give me a reason to pull the lever for Trump.

00:04:51.000 He had a good enough performance to maybe get...

00:04:55.000 If either of them are going to gain those undecided people by a couple of points, it might be a wash and they might gain the same amount of undecided people.

00:05:03.000 I think what favored him was that his strong point was at the beginning.

00:05:06.000 I think there were probably a lot of people who probably thought he did really well...

00:05:09.000 Possibly tuned out before the second half.

00:05:11.000 I mean, these are long debates.

00:05:12.000 It's interesting that you say that because...

00:05:13.000 Most people are probably tuned out halfway.

00:05:15.000 If you watch our lives and the people who are tweeting us, at the beginning they were going, okay, he's going to be the next president.

00:05:20.000 And then they were getting progressively depressed throughout the debate.

00:05:23.000 My dad and my brother, who were doing some work, they tuned in about 30 minutes late.

00:05:29.000 They're...

00:05:30.000 Their interpretation was just, oh my gosh, Hillary mopped the floor with them. 1.00

00:05:33.000 So if you didn't see those first 30 minutes, it was an absolute domination of Donald Trump.

00:05:37.000 If you only saw those 30 minutes, it was a domination of Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:05:41.000 If you saw it in its entirety, slight edge Hillary Clinton. 0.92

00:05:44.000 Again, not to me on politics.

00:05:47.000 Here's the problem with that, too.

00:05:49.000 Hillary Clinton... 0.99

00:05:50.000 I hate her ideas. 1.00

00:05:52.000 I hate what she stands for. 0.99

00:05:53.000 Everything about her.

00:05:54.000 But she's able to articulate it pretty effectively in a debate.

00:05:58.000 Donald Trump, some of his ideas I don't like.

00:05:59.000 Some of them I really like.

00:06:01.000 He's not able to articulate it.

00:06:04.000 That's the issue. 0.99

00:06:05.000 So Hillary's issue is she's able to articulate crap, and Donald Trump is not able to effectively communicate, even if it's brilliant. 0.98

00:06:14.000 Of course, it helps, because you know she was sending Lester Holt signals. 0.99

00:06:17.000 That's the new conspiracy.

00:06:17.000 Signals.

00:06:18.000 Conspiracy.

00:06:19.000 Here's the deal.

00:06:19.000 Sending...

00:06:20.000 You don't need conspiracies with Hillary Clinton.

00:06:22.000 There's so much to actually go on.

00:06:24.000 Now we're going into Lester Holt conspiracies.

00:06:26.000 That said, it's really, really entertaining.

00:06:28.000 It is entertaining.

00:06:29.000 And here's the deal.

00:06:30.000 Lester Holt, was he biased?

00:06:31.000 Probably.

00:06:32.000 Sure.

00:06:33.000 Still not convinced he's black.

00:06:34.000 Lester Holt, probably biased, but you know that going in as a Republican.

00:06:36.000 You should know that.

00:06:37.000 And it's okay.

00:06:38.000 We know it wasn't a candy Crowley moment.

00:06:40.000 Did he ask more critical questions of Donald Trump?

00:06:43.000 More questions personally to Donald Trump than Hillary Clinton?

00:06:45.000 Yes, you can look at those numbers.

00:06:46.000 However, to be fair, Donald Trump didn't answer some of his questions.

00:06:51.000 And if I were a moderator, I would have followed up too.

00:06:55.000 And Donald Trump did interrupt Hillary Clinton a lot more than Hillary Clinton interrupted Donald Trump.

00:07:00.000 So I think it was actually compared to the Candy Crowley situation, compared to what we saw with Romney-Obama.

00:07:07.000 I don't think it was as bad as we've seen.

00:07:09.000 I really don't.

00:07:11.000 And I will say this one thing.

00:07:12.000 I know people are going to get really mad when I say this.

00:07:15.000 The no-fly, no-buy thing from Donald Trump.

00:07:20.000 Is as upsetting as any mistake he's made, where he says, you know, no, if you can't fly, no buy.

00:07:26.000 And people say, well, he came with the caveat that he'll make it easier to get off that no-fly list.

00:07:31.000 Here's the thing.

00:07:32.000 You don't get to take away fundamental constitutional rights, whether you're a Democrat, you're a Republican, because of some arbitrary list where you haven't been convicted of a crime.

00:07:41.000 There's no due process, regardless of whether we create an appeal process.

00:07:46.000 Mm-hmm.

00:07:46.000 You don't get to do it.

00:07:48.000 And here's my issue with Donald Trump on that.

00:07:50.000 The fact that he's gone back and forth two, three times on that, people are going to get mad.

00:07:55.000 You need to be honest.

00:07:56.000 It shows that he doesn't understand a constitutional right.

00:07:59.000 It shows that he doesn't understand the concept of you don't get to take away rights because of political expediency.

00:08:06.000 That really pissed me off.

00:08:09.000 And if you look online on Twitter, when people were being honest, if you look online as the live debate was going on, a lot of conservatives were upset about that.

00:08:19.000 Oh, I was.

00:08:20.000 I mean, I couldn't believe it.

00:08:20.000 Yeah.

00:08:22.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:08:23.000 I think he mentioned something about the NRA even in there.

00:08:25.000 So, you know, he was thinking in a framework of this is not what I'm supposed to say.

00:08:30.000 Right.

00:08:31.000 And I think that's just – I think those are some things that just kind of show not so much like a misstep that's just kind of like – I hate to say it, but I think that's the real Donald Trump kind of leaking through, kind of his natural bent.

00:08:42.000 And it doesn't mean that he's worse than Hillary Clinton.

00:08:44.000 Hillary Clinton is abysmal. 1.00

00:08:45.000 I get it.

00:08:46.000 The problem is, and here's the problem with social media right now, the second I can see the lines lighting up with people who are furious, you know, any criticism of Donald Trump is going to put Hillary Clinton in office.

00:08:53.000 No, no, no, listen.

00:08:55.000 You...

00:08:56.000 Two months ago, we're ranting and raving about how great it was that Donald Trump met with the NRA, ARFcom, AR15.com, where the live chat occurs.

00:09:05.000 I know you guys are watching.

00:09:06.000 You were just praising him by saying, well, you know what, it shows that he can learn, because he thought no fly, no buy, and then he changed after his meeting with the NRA. For him to change back, that should piss you off, and you should want to keep him accountable, and it's okay to be critical on that.

00:09:19.000 That is a non-negotiable issue.

00:09:21.000 You don't get to remove fundamental birth rights, the right to protect yourself.

00:09:26.000 You either believe in the Second Amendment or you don't.

00:09:28.000 With Stephen Hayes, with Ted Kennedy, I think it was Congressman Clyburn, all kinds of people have been put on the no-fly list.

00:09:34.000 I know many people who've been put on the no-fly list.

00:09:38.000 Imagine that.

00:09:39.000 Imagine you need to protect yourself.

00:09:40.000 I'm surprised you haven't ended up on the no-fly list yet.

00:09:42.000 It's been a while since I've flown.

00:09:42.000 Who knows?

00:09:44.000 I greyhound it with the retards. 1.00

00:09:44.000 It has been. 1.00

00:09:48.000 Speaking of which, while the debate was going on, this happened with Gary Johnson.

00:09:52.000 Who's your favorite foreign leader?

00:09:54.000 Who's my favorite?

00:09:55.000 Just name anywhere in the country, any one of the continents, any country, name one foreign leader that you respect and look up to.

00:10:00.000 Anybody.

00:10:01.000 Mine was Shimon Peres.

00:10:03.000 I'm talking about living. 0.99

00:10:04.000 No, no, shut up. 0.99

00:10:06.000 You've got to do this anywhere, any continent. 0.99

00:10:08.000 Canada, Mexico, Europe, over there, Asia, South America.

00:10:13.000 Just say Trudeau.

00:10:14.000 A foreign leader that you respect.

00:10:15.000 I guess I'm having an Aleppo moment in the former president of Mexico.

00:10:19.000 But I'm giving you the whole world.

00:10:20.000 I know, I know.

00:10:21.000 Anybody in the world you like.

00:10:22.000 Full campaigns in Aleppo moment.

00:10:26.000 It was like Celebrity Jeopardy.

00:10:27.000 Just say the number 10!

00:10:30.000 Just say 10!

00:10:32.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:10:34.000 And then his running mate went on to say Merkel!

00:10:36.000 Merkel.

00:10:37.000 Merkel. 0.99

00:10:38.000 The worst! 1.00

00:10:39.000 The person who let in all of the Islamic terrorist refugees for record rape and record crime. 1.00

00:10:47.000 I mean, to say that these guys are like Dumb and Dumber would be an affront to Lloyd Christmas. 0.99

00:10:53.000 It's not fair.

00:10:54.000 It is unbelievable.

00:10:56.000 I think potheads deserve a better representative than Gary Johnson. 0.99

00:10:58.000 It really does seem like he smoked himself silly.

00:11:00.000 This is not the same Gary Johnson from, was it 08 or 2012?

00:11:05.000 I don't remember.

00:11:06.000 Gosh!

00:11:07.000 I wasn't paying attention that long.

00:11:08.000 Just pick one.

00:11:09.000 Just pick any.

00:11:11.000 In defense, you try to remedy it with this tweet right here.

00:11:15.000 We tweeted out, it's been almost 24 hours and I still can't come up with a foreign leader I look up to.

00:11:19.000 Now, here's the deal.

00:11:20.000 If I understood, like, oh, this guy has just a fantastic sense of humor, you know what I mean?

00:11:25.000 I would say, that was brilliant, I'd repeat it.

00:11:28.000 I don't trust that that's the case with Gary Johnson.

00:11:30.000 I don't think he has any self-awareness.

00:11:32.000 No.

00:11:33.000 That's that cerebral cortex where we had the doctor saying, you know, that's the one area that can be altered by an incredible amount of pot smoking.

00:11:39.000 Go home, Gary, you're high.

00:11:41.000 Go home.

00:11:43.000 It's over.

00:11:44.000 Go home.

00:11:45.000 And here's the thing.

00:11:45.000 With the Libertarian Party, too, Gary, this would have been an incredible opportunity.

00:11:49.000 I don't think you should throw away your vote.

00:11:51.000 You should vote however you want, right?

00:11:52.000 But let's be honest.

00:11:53.000 If you're voting for Gary Johnson, you're throwing away your vote, it's a protest vote, fine.

00:11:56.000 Do whatever you want.

00:11:57.000 But he has a zero chance at winning.

00:11:59.000 We know that.

00:12:01.000 But this would have been an opportunity for the first time since, like, Ross Perot to at least make their voice heard if the libertarians had...

00:12:07.000 The fat, naked stripper at the libertarian convention, the Chris Farley-Chippendales look-alike, would have been more equipped to handle this election than Gary Johnson. 0.99

00:12:16.000 I think so. 0.96

00:12:17.000 More informed, probably a little more prepared.

00:12:19.000 Word's coming a little faster to the brain. 1.00

00:12:21.000 Gosh, Dave Rubin must be shooting himself at the local gay bar. 1.00

00:12:24.000 I can't imagine that he's handling this well. 0.96

00:12:27.000 And I understand the spirit of it, but...

00:12:28.000 Well, he's probably not, because he has not gotten the gun yet.

00:12:30.000 He has not gotten that gun yet.

00:12:31.000 Hashtag gift a gun.

00:12:32.000 Hashtag gift a gun.

00:12:32.000 We will be back to talk about...

00:12:34.000 Oh, Emma Watson.

00:12:35.000 That's in the docket.

00:12:35.000 A little sparrows.

00:12:37.000 And now, Hillary Clinton fact-checks in real-time that didn't happen, but should have. Hillary Clinton fact-checks in real-time that didn't happen, but should These should've.

00:12:57.000 I can't believe these didn't actually happen.

00:13:00.000 Fair point, Mr.

00:13:01.000 Secretary Hillary Clinton, based on your health issues, Donald Trump has called your stamina into question.

00:13:01.000 Trump.

00:13:05.000 How do you respond?

00:13:07.000 Well...

00:13:08.000 As soon as he travels to 112 countries and negotiates a peace deal, a ceasefire, a release of dissidents, an opening of new opportunities in nations around the world, or even spends 11 hours testifying in front of a congressional committee, he can talk to me about stamina.

00:13:29.000 Okay.

00:13:31.000 Weren't you spending 11 hours in front of a congressional hearing because they were investigating you?

00:13:39.000 For felonies?

00:13:41.000 That possibly killed people?

00:13:47.000 That's us!

00:13:48.000 Stay tuned for more fact checks of Hillary Clinton in real time!

00:13:53.000 That didn't ha- No, really, stay- It gets worse.

00:13:56.000 Stay tuned.

00:14:00.000 Hey Jared, what are you doing? 0.98

00:14:02.000 Shooting bad guys. 0.87

00:14:04.000 With what? 0.60

00:14:04.000 By AR-15. 0.60

00:14:05.000 Where'd you get it?

00:14:06.000 AR-15.com.

00:14:08.000 Enunciate it more clearly so our audience can hear.

00:14:11.000 AR-15.com.

00:14:12.000 That's better.

00:14:13.000 They sell guns now?

00:14:15.000 Yeah, they do.

00:14:16.000 Are they any good?

00:14:17.000 They're the best.

00:14:18.000 Where from?

00:14:19.000 AR-15.com.

00:14:20.000 Kapoor!

00:14:21.000 Kaboosh! 1.00

00:14:21.000 Did you really make that sound? 1.00

00:14:23.000 Didn't have the budget for sound effects.

00:14:24.000 Kaboow! 0.92

00:14:25.000 Kaboow! 0.92

00:14:26.000 Oh, there's another one!

00:14:27.000 Kaboow! 0.96

00:14:28.000 You shot him!

00:14:29.000 With what?

00:14:30.000 By AR-15!

00:14:31.000 From where?

00:14:32.000 AR-15.com.

00:14:33.000 Hey, how do you know they're bad guys?

00:14:35.000 Derpids and burkas. 1.00

00:14:36.000 That's racist! 0.83

00:14:36.000 Kaboow! 0.83

00:14:38.000 That's racist!

00:15:08.000 All right, glad to be back.

00:15:14.000 We have Austin Peterson coming up after the break.

00:15:16.000 Libertarian candidate.

00:15:18.000 Maybe talk about Gary Johnson.

00:15:18.000 Pick his brain.

00:15:20.000 Maybe.

00:15:21.000 Maybe.

00:15:22.000 He's got to have some thoughts.

00:15:24.000 Some words.

00:15:25.000 That has got to be a sore spot.

00:15:26.000 Some syllables to share.

00:15:28.000 He, you know, Austin Peterson, obviously I couldn't have voted for the guy because of the open borders policy, but I like him.

00:15:33.000 I think he's a pretty sharp guy, and for him to lose a primary to a party that won't even get 10% of the vote to a guy who was effectively Cuba Gooding Jr.'s character from radio is a really rough pill to swallow.

00:15:50.000 It is.

00:15:51.000 That is a bitter pill to swallow.

00:15:53.000 Speaking of bitter...

00:15:54.000 Oh, Lord.

00:15:56.000 Gosh, it's Emma Watson, right?

00:15:58.000 Emma Watson.

00:15:59.000 Who else am I thinking of who was in like, that actress who was in Birdman, Spider-Man?

00:16:05.000 Emma Stone.

00:16:06.000 Emma Stone.

00:16:08.000 Two really generic, you know what's funny?

00:16:10.000 I can more easily remember ethnic names, like typical white guy or white girl names.

00:16:15.000 Like Bob Jones.

00:16:15.000 Really?

00:16:16.000 What was that, Robert?

00:16:18.000 It's really hard, so Emma Watson, Emma, I just forget, Emma Stone?

00:16:18.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:16:22.000 Emma Stone.

00:16:23.000 Emily Blunt.

00:16:24.000 Emily Blunt. 0.99

00:16:26.000 You pronounced your B like a fat guy. 0.99

00:16:28.000 Blunt. 0.99

00:16:29.000 Blunt.

00:16:29.000 Sounded like someone who failed at trying to skip stones.

00:16:32.000 So she went before the UN here and talked about feminism. 1.00

00:16:38.000 Got a bluster.

00:16:39.000 In a turtleneck.

00:16:41.000 Alright, let's start rolling this clip here and we'll just roll through and pause it.

00:16:44.000 Thank you all for being here for this important moment.

00:16:47.000 These men from all over the world have decided to make gender equality a priority in their lives and in their universities.

00:16:55.000 Thank you for making this commitment.

00:16:56.000 I can tell you what those men look like.

00:16:58.000 I graduated from university four years ago.

00:16:59.000 Wait, this is too early.

00:17:00.000 The clip I sent you started later.

00:17:05.000 Oh, it gets into it.

00:17:06.000 Okay.

00:17:07.000 I just want to make sure we're not wasting people's time because it gets really bad and I want to get to that quickly before I have an aneurysm.

00:17:07.000 Alright, alright.

00:17:12.000 I don't want to go into a Hillary seizure.

00:17:14.000 No.

00:17:14.000 No one needs that.

00:17:15.000 Brown became my home, my community, and I took the ideas and the experiences I had there into all of my social interactions, into my workplace, into my politics, into all aspects of my life.

00:17:28.000 I'm sure you did.

00:17:29.000 I know that my university experience shaped who I am.

00:17:33.000 Yep, and that's a problem.

00:17:34.000 Of course, it does for many people.

00:17:36.000 She's right.

00:17:37.000 But what if our experience of university shows us that women don't belong in leadership? 1.00

00:17:43.000 What if it shows us that yes, women can study, but they shouldn't lead a seminar? 1.00

00:17:48.000 That's not shown anywhere in any university.

00:17:50.000 What if, as still in many places around the world, it tells us that women don't belong there at all?

00:17:55.000 What are you talking about like Saudi Arabia?

00:17:57.000 What if, as is the case in far too many universities, we are given the message that sexual violence isn't actually a form of violence?

00:18:04.000 Pause.

00:18:07.000 This is before the UN. Name one!

00:18:12.000 Name one university that is...

00:18:14.000 I can name you 50 universities off of the top of my head where gender studies are taught, rape culture is taught. 1.00

00:18:22.000 Point me to one university where the curriculum is sexual assault is not really violence 101.

00:18:29.000 Name one.

00:18:30.000 They trot this out, and by the way, they trot this out to demand international sanctions, to demand international globalist rule of law from the UN to take your rights away.

00:18:39.000 We'll get into that later, because the UN called for the United States to give reparations to black Americans.

00:18:44.000 No word yet on African nations who sold them into slavery.

00:18:47.000 Name one university where rape is taught as, ah, we're swept under the wrong. 0.83

00:18:52.000 Name one university that teaches women you're not allowed to be in a position of leadership. 1.00

00:18:56.000 Name one university that is opposed to demanding safe spaces, trigger warnings, and checking your privilege.

00:19:00.000 Name one university that is this bastion of misogyny and rape culture and inequality.

00:19:08.000 Emily... 0.90

00:19:09.000 What's her name?

00:19:09.000 Emma.

00:19:10.000 Emma Watson is talking about.

00:19:12.000 See, I can't even remember her name.

00:19:13.000 She's so generic.

00:19:14.000 Her opinions are so pedestrian and regurgitated.

00:19:17.000 And she's right!

00:19:17.000 Here's the thing.

00:19:18.000 She's right.

00:19:18.000 The university does shape your worldview.

00:19:20.000 It absolutely does.

00:19:21.000 And she went in there with none.

00:19:23.000 She was a girl...

00:19:24.000 I'll get into this app because she gets... 0.97

00:19:27.000 Let's go.

00:19:28.000 Just go.

00:19:30.000 But we know that if you change students' experiences so they have different expectations of the world around them, expectations of equality, society will change. 0.99

00:19:45.000 Damn it! 0.97

00:19:46.000 As we leave home for the first time to study at the places that we have worked so hard to get, we must not see or experience double standards. 0.99

00:19:56.000 We need to see equal respect.

00:20:00.000 Leadership.

00:20:00.000 And pay.

00:20:02.000 That's enough.

00:20:02.000 Alright, that's enough.

00:20:03.000 Yeah, so this is a stupid person. 1.00

00:20:03.000 I can't... 1.00

00:20:05.000 By the way...

00:20:05.000 In fairness, she spent ten years in dress-up and play with wine, so that's gotta qualify for something.

00:20:09.000 Here's the...

00:20:10.000 Yes, you're absolutely right.

00:20:12.000 Here's the...

00:20:12.000 First off, pay.

00:20:13.000 This is a dumb person. 0.99

00:20:14.000 I don't know why Emma Watson is like this meme online that people find her attractive, or there's something about her that's compelling. 1.00

00:20:20.000 I can't think of somebody more ill-informed, boring, and bad at their job.

00:20:24.000 She's right.

00:20:25.000 University does shape their worldview.

00:20:27.000 And these kids are going in.

00:20:28.000 It's an indoctrination factory where they're being taught false statistics like you need to go before the UN to demand more pay.

00:20:34.000 She couldn't be more wrong.

00:20:35.000 And like you said, this is Emma Watson's greatest qualification to have an opinion.

00:20:39.000 Not saying she can't have an opinion, but she's sitting before the UN who kind of screw up international law a whole lot. 0.98

00:20:45.000 Her greatest qualification is she was a cute If awkward unibrowed kid who was a good enough actor for them to hand her millions of dollars to take part in a franchise before she even had her first female cycle. 0.96

00:20:58.000 So this woman was surrounded by piles of cash. 1.00

00:21:02.000 And here's the thing.

00:21:03.000 She's talking about this will shape our worldview and people will have different expectations.

00:21:08.000 That's true.

00:21:09.000 College does shape your worldview and people will have different expectations.

00:21:12.000 That's why you have an entire generation of social justice warriors who get their teeth kicked in by the real world because they get into the real world and they realize that it's not safe spaces and trigger warnings.

00:21:20.000 That's the same thing with her. 0.88

00:21:22.000 Here's the thing that people need to understand.

00:21:23.000 You know why this story doesn't end well for most child actors?

00:21:26.000 All of Hollywood is a safe space.

00:21:29.000 The only place outside of university where you have safe spaces and trigger warnings and precious is Hollywood.

00:21:36.000 Why? 0.60

00:21:36.000 Because since Emma Watson has been a little girl, she has had her ass kissed by agents, managers, publicists, producers, directors who have a vested interest to make sure that she does not face any real adversity of any kind because they need to protect their product and their brand. 0.60

00:21:53.000 And so she's going to go out into the world with unrealistic expectations, just like Every child actor, usually it results in coke off some broad's hip bones. 0.98

00:22:00.000 In this case, it results in her lecturing the UN and the rest of the world on how we need to pay women more and start treating rape seriously. 0.99

00:22:10.000 All of Hollywood is a safe space.

00:22:13.000 Everything she said there is right except for the facts on pay, on sexual assault, on violence against women. 0.55

00:22:19.000 But the fact that university can shape worldviews?

00:22:21.000 Yes.

00:22:22.000 And she is demanding less intellectual diversity because she wants to shape one worldview. 1.00

00:22:27.000 The worldview she's had, unchallenged, throughout Hollywood, her entire career, and university.

00:22:31.000 I've lost the ability to even...

00:22:33.000 Austin Peterson next!

00:22:36.000 Ah, Hillary's seizure! 1.00

00:22:37.000 it hurts I'm now party conversations with Lester Holt Oh my god, no way!

00:22:53.000 No, I assure you it's true.

00:22:55.000 No, you're joking.

00:22:57.000 No, I'm not.

00:22:58.000 You're joking.

00:22:59.000 There's no way.

00:23:01.000 No, I don't believe you.

00:23:03.000 No, I can't even.

00:23:03.000 You should.

00:23:05.000 You should even.

00:23:06.000 I just... 0.63

00:23:07.000 You're really black? 0.98

00:23:11.000 Quite. 0.90

00:23:12.000 This has been Party Conversations with Lester Holt.

00:23:15.000 It's time for the adventures of Clock Boy and Care.

00:23:29.000 Clock Boy and Care Help me!

00:23:38.000 That poor man in that building!

00:23:40.000 Someone save him!

00:23:44.000 Have no fear!

00:23:45.000 Wow!

00:23:46.000 Clock Boy!

00:23:47.000 That's correct!

00:23:48.000 Please!

00:23:49.000 There's not much time!

00:23:50.000 Save that man! 0.94

00:23:52.000 Absolutely!

00:23:53.000 If I can have just one moment...

00:23:58.000 What are you doing, Clock Boy?

00:24:00.000 I am removing the internals of my Philips clock radio, and I am inserting them into this briefcase.

00:24:06.000 And how will that help?

00:24:07.000 Good question.

00:24:08.000 I am then going to take this briefcase, which clearly resembles a bomb, up onto that burning man in the building.

00:24:14.000 And when he points out that it looks like a bomb, clearly, my sidekick Kerr will come in to sue him.

00:24:14.000 And...

00:24:20.000 But how is that helping?

00:24:22.000 It helps me!

00:24:24.000 Stay tuned for more adventures of Clock Boy and Kerr.

00:24:30.000 Follow him on Twitter.

00:24:32.000 He's verified, you know.

00:24:33.000 Oh, Akbar.

00:24:35.000 There we go.

00:25:05.000 He's a gamer.

00:25:05.000 Look, he ran for president, but he can still have fun.

00:25:09.000 Austin Peterson, of course, Libertarian candidate.

00:25:11.000 I'm sorry, Austin, I lost the name of your website.

00:25:13.000 Is it Libertarian Republic?

00:25:16.000 Yeah, the Libertarian Republic.

00:25:17.000 The Libertarian Republic.

00:25:19.000 Go check it out.

00:25:20.000 He's been a friend of the show.

00:25:21.000 Now, as far as the Libertarian Party ticket, you missed it by that much.

00:25:26.000 Let's go right into it.

00:25:27.000 Gary Johnson is there.

00:25:30.000 What is Aleppo?

00:25:31.000 Your thoughts? 1.00

00:25:33.000 Bake the damn Aleppo. 1.00

00:25:33.000 Right. 1.00

00:25:37.000 So, yeah, that was obviously a big stumble, but it ended up being a good thing, not necessarily for Gary Johnson, but for, I think, foreign policy, because a lot of people started Googling Aleppo, right? 1.00

00:25:47.000 Everybody was like he was like, what an idiot. 1.00

00:25:47.000 Right there. 1.00

00:25:49.000 I mean, everybody was like, well, what is Aleppo?

00:25:51.000 It was probably good to shine a light on a regional world that people need to be paying more attention to.

00:25:51.000 Right.

00:25:56.000 But, yeah, it was obviously a flub.

00:25:58.000 It got him a lot more attention.

00:25:59.000 So, I mean, if if that's what your metric is, is success.

00:26:02.000 Well, then I would say that that was successful for him.

00:26:05.000 But, you know, he definitely needs to brush up on foreign policy.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, he does.

00:26:08.000 And potheads need a better representative. 1.00

00:26:10.000 I will say that like he gets. 0.98

00:26:12.000 Because he's not the same Gary Johnson when he was in office, and now it does seem maybe like he smoked himself a little bit silly, and they deserve better, my lazy pothead friends.

00:26:24.000 There is a different Gary Johnson from 2008 to 2012.

00:26:26.000 Not exactly sure what happened.

00:26:28.000 I think that probably the primary got him beat up pretty bad.

00:26:31.000 So he may have come out of that a little bit more bruised.

00:26:33.000 And then now he's got his VP choice, Bill Weld, that he's got out there.

00:26:37.000 So, yeah, if you're a pothead, then Gary Johnson is your candidate.

00:26:41.000 And there's nothing wrong with potheads.

00:26:42.000 I've smoked marijuana, and I don't see anything wrong with it.

00:26:46.000 But I think that Gary Johnson definitely needs to step up his game in certain areas.

00:26:49.000 But, well, did you watch the That was my question, because when we had, you know, you're a libertarian, but you had your issues with Gary Johnson.

00:26:57.000 Obviously, the gun issue with him, he's remarkably inconsistent.

00:27:00.000 The carbon tax that he talked about.

00:27:02.000 He is just in an opportunity, a year where there would have been a real opportunity for the Libertarian Party.

00:27:07.000 He is just the worst person to put forward right now.

00:27:11.000 So where are you?

00:27:11.000 Are you voting Gary Johnson?

00:27:13.000 Are you considering Trump?

00:27:14.000 Where are you when we're in this kind of circus?

00:27:17.000 Well, I'm not considering Trump just because I worry about the rise of hyper-nationalism in the United States because I think what that does is that leads to things like tariffs.

00:27:26.000 That leads to eventually tax increases.

00:27:28.000 I think that Trump, he's supposed to be the top diplomat, the top ambassador.

00:27:32.000 And Gary, for all of his faults, I would trust him more as a diplomat or ambassador for our country rather than Trump, who seems to be a little bit of a loose cannon.

00:27:40.000 I don't know if you heard today, Barack Obama came out this week and said that don't vote for Gary Johnson because that's a vote for Trump.

00:27:48.000 And that's funny because all the Trump voters say that a vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary.

00:27:53.000 So I can't decide if by voting for Johnson I'm voting for Trump or Hillary.

00:27:56.000 So it's a little confusing.

00:27:57.000 But I personally prefer Johnson to Trump or Hillary.

00:28:00.000 I think it comes down to, do you find the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency terrifying enough that even if you're a libertarian or third party, you don't like them, that you say, all right, I can't allow it, in which case you vote for Trump, not Johnson, because we know Johnson doesn't actually really have a chance of winning the election.

00:28:18.000 It depends on how terrifying the idea is of a Hillary Clinton presidency. 0.79

00:28:22.000 I think that sort of determines who you think it could help more.

00:28:25.000 Well, I'm a little bit more strategic when it comes to that.

00:28:28.000 I'm going to get in trouble for saying this, but I kind of come from the Alexander Hamilton Federalist wing of the Libertarian Party.

00:28:34.000 And Alexander Hamilton made the argument that it's better to have someone who at the top of the ticket or in the presidency that you did not support, that you are not responsible for, because that way you can oppose them.

00:28:47.000 And if the candidate is Hillary Clinton, Then I think that the Republicans and Libertarians and conservatives, we would all finally be united again against a common enemy.

00:28:56.000 And that way we're not responsible for what Hillary Clinton does. 0.99

00:28:59.000 If Donald Trump wins, then the Republicans, and to a smaller extent some conservatives, are responsible for what Donald Trump does.

00:29:06.000 I would quite frankly like to see conservatives and Libertarians start getting back together and working together again.

00:29:11.000 Well, why haven't they been under eight years of Obama?

00:29:13.000 Why would it take Hillary Clinton, you know, for them to be the opposition party? 1.00

00:29:18.000 Well, I don't know that we've necessarily been—there hasn't been that much disunity over the last years when it comes to Obama.

00:29:26.000 And here's the thing.

00:29:27.000 The Cato Institute actually published a study about divided government.

00:29:30.000 And what they found was when they analyzed government spending and government growth— Democrat president and Republican House, I think.

00:29:38.000 Exactly.

00:29:39.000 If you have a Republican House, a Republican Senate, with a Democratic president, historically the growth of government has been the least.

00:29:46.000 Government always grows.

00:29:48.000 That's the trend.

00:29:49.000 But it grows the least when you have a Democratic president with a Republican Senate and House.

00:29:53.000 I don't know if we're going to be able to maintain the Senate and House, but I'd like to see us gather together to build the coalitions that would make that necessary.

00:30:01.000 Well, and for all of his sort of protectionist policies, which we've talked about, you know, Donald Trump, he did come out and say this week he said he was going to cut the federal government by 25% right away.

00:30:11.000 That's far more drastic in the sense of downsizing government than anything Gary Johnson has really put forward.

00:30:17.000 So as a libertarian, what's your reaction to that?

00:30:19.000 Or do you just think, well, it's hot air?

00:30:21.000 Well, I think it's hot air, and the reason why is because, if you remember, before George W. Bush was elected, he wanted to make sure that the United States was not the policeman of the world.

00:30:31.000 But then when it came down to it, he did the opposite.

00:30:33.000 And we actually have seen Governor Gary Johnson govern.

00:30:37.000 We haven't seen Donald Trump govern.

00:30:38.000 So we don't actually know if Donald Trump would put his principles into practice.

00:30:42.000 Whereas we actually do know what Governor Gary Johnson did in New Mexico, and that was to cut spending, cut the budget, and he governed much more libertarian than any other governor in history, I think, save maybe one or two.

00:30:54.000 Well, so you talk about not being responsible for them, but like you said, Republicans and libertarians have been united under Obama, and what's that gotten them?

00:31:01.000 Nothing.

00:31:01.000 So this is the argument from the other side of the coin.

00:31:04.000 Saying you're not responsible for Hillary, and I understand that, and I understand that you do have to vote your conscience.

00:31:09.000 I understand.

00:31:09.000 I can never, ever, ever vote for Hillary.

00:31:12.000 I've always said Trump has to election day to convince me.

00:31:16.000 I've tried to support him where I think he's right, criticize him where I think it's fair.

00:31:18.000 That's what I've tried to do.

00:31:20.000 That being said, if you vote for anyone outside of Trump against Hillary, because like you said, you don't want to be responsible for it, is there some aspect of you're kind of playing chicken with the United States of America at that point?

00:31:33.000 It depends.

00:31:34.000 I mean, if you're talking about the federal election in the broad sense, a single vote is infinitesimally small in terms of the impact.

00:31:43.000 What you really need to be focusing on are the local races.

00:31:46.000 And remember, the president, whether it's Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, they only have a certain amount of power.

00:31:50.000 They only have a limited amount of power.

00:31:51.000 So if you want real change, you should be paying to what's going on in your local elections, because Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, either one of them, they'll both have the same amount of power.

00:32:00.000 Except the Supreme Court.

00:32:01.000 I mean, that is one thing that is up in the balance, especially as a Second Amendment person.

00:32:05.000 I know Gary Johnson, not as much.

00:32:05.000 I know you are.

00:32:08.000 That is, I mean, that's got to keep you up at night, right?

00:32:11.000 That is for me.

00:32:12.000 I'm like, gosh, the Supreme Court Heller, the Heller case, I can't see not weighing that as heavily as anything I've done in my political lifetime.

00:32:22.000 Right, but the problem with that is that Republicans don't have a very good track record of picking conservative judges either.

00:32:27.000 I mean, who was the Supreme Court Justice that gave us the Obamacare decision that codified it, right?

00:32:32.000 That was a Republican pick under George W. Bush.

00:32:35.000 There was a federal judge by the name of Richard Posner who said that the Constitution doesn't really apply anymore.

00:32:41.000 He was nominated there by Ronald Reagan.

00:32:43.000 So we haven't really had a good history of conservative judges being picked necessarily by Republicans either.

00:32:48.000 I do think in the Second Amendment, yeah.

00:32:49.000 I think the Second Amendment is such a strong issue, and Republicans, for all their faults, have done a good job of keeping their feet to the fire.

00:32:55.000 I don't think you'd have a Republican or a conservative Supreme Court justice who would say that private citizens have no right to own firearms at all, which is what the dissenting arguments, right, were.

00:33:04.000 A lot of people don't realize that what the hell are the case.

00:33:05.000 It wasn't a capacity limitation.

00:33:08.000 It was, you don't have the right to own firearms in the United States, which is insanity.

00:33:14.000 The argument against the current ruling is way more important than even though we ruled in favor.

00:33:20.000 Right.

00:33:21.000 And some conservatives would say that the decision to uphold Obamacare would lead to the death of Obamacare.

00:33:28.000 And in some ways it has, because we've seen that a lot of these people have been pulling out, the exchanges have been pulling out.

00:33:32.000 I think Aetna pulled out.

00:33:35.000 So there is a very good argument for that as well.

00:33:38.000 So you make good points.

00:33:39.000 Gosh, yeah.

00:33:40.000 So you are going to pull the lever for Johnson?

00:33:42.000 Yes, I'm going to be supporting for Johnson.

00:33:44.000 I'm all in for Johnson.

00:33:46.000 Even though he got all bitchy and snippy with you on Stossel?

00:33:49.000 He has been so horribly rude to me, and he threw out my gun that I gave to him as a gift, but...

00:33:57.000 You gave him a real gun as a gift?

00:33:59.000 Well, it was a replica of George Washington's flintlock pistol.

00:34:02.000 I actually got it right here, but he threw it in the trash.

00:34:04.000 It was a big, huge dust-up.

00:34:06.000 It was an argument, because we had a pretty nasty primary, but I did endorse him anyway, but...

00:34:11.000 He did that in front of you?

00:34:12.000 Or did he send you a letter, I threw out your gun, Austin?

00:34:16.000 Somebody saw him do it, and they pulled it out of the trash and gave it back to me.

00:34:20.000 So Donald Trump may not be the most petty person on that stage.

00:34:23.000 Maybe not.

00:34:24.000 But here's the problem.

00:34:25.000 The problem is nobody's going to give a damn about my ego in 4 years, 10 years, 18 years. 0.57

00:34:30.000 I have to do what's right more than just care about people who insult me or slight me. 0.99

00:34:37.000 I have to pick who I think is the best candidate, no matter what a jerk they may have been to me. 0.98

00:34:41.000 That's a good way to look at it. 0.99

00:34:42.000 And I wish that Cruz, Trump, Rubio, all of them were able to do that.

00:34:48.000 And I think the problem is they've been so divisive.

00:34:50.000 I think they've been so personal in their attacks, it's really hard to get a lot of people coming over to that side.

00:34:55.000 And that's where Donald Trump, you know, he can't get over the hump of enough Republicans.

00:34:59.000 It's not bringing over Democrats.

00:35:00.000 It's enough Republicans because, you know, listen, it's one thing to say my opponent was in the gang of eight or supported some kind of immigration bill that I don't like it.

00:35:07.000 That's another to say, as Dad might have killed JFK, it's hard to bring them over. 0.86

00:35:13.000 Yeah, you could say that.

00:35:14.000 I mean, it was a bitter thought primary, and Ted Cruz's endorsement was rather tepid last week.

00:35:19.000 So that's why I think Trump is probably not going to win, because Hillary's base is solidified. 1.00

00:35:25.000 Bernie Sanders endorsed her.

00:35:27.000 And the difference is that with Cruz, it was much more of a wait-and-see and a last-minute thing.

00:35:32.000 So I see the Republican Party is in chaos right now.

00:35:35.000 But if the Republican Party gets destroyed and if Trump loses, that could be a good thing for the Republican Party going forward because that would show that the conservatives had the right argument and that Donald Trump and the nationalists and the populists are not going to be the future of the Republican Party.

00:35:51.000 Because, I mean, do you really like Trump that much?

00:35:53.000 I mean, he's not a conservative.

00:35:56.000 He's kind of a liberal Republican and kind of a Rockefeller Republican in many ways.

00:36:00.000 But the guy doesn't even have any real true philosophy or ideology.

00:36:03.000 So I don't know that him winning is necessarily a good thing for the Republican Party either.

00:36:07.000 I think that it probably sets the conservative cause back decades.

00:36:11.000 And I understand that argument.

00:36:12.000 Ben Shapiro makes the argument that there's no reverse gear.

00:36:14.000 I would say this.

00:36:15.000 It's easy for people like us who are so close to it to think that it's all this sort of nationalist populism.

00:36:21.000 The vast majority of Trump supporters aren't that.

00:36:24.000 I think the vast majority of Trump supporters are people who've been lifelong Republicans or people who feel like Republicans haven't gotten anything done.

00:36:29.000 I think you have a loud contingency online who have Pepe the Frog swastikas.

00:36:33.000 I was going to say, what about the racist fraud?

00:36:34.000 Yeah, what about the racist fraud?

00:36:35.000 And believe me, I get pictures sent of me in gas chambers, and it's like, well, I'm not even Jewish, but I guess they think that I am. 0.86

00:36:42.000 Abhorrent. 0.96

00:36:42.000 Those people are terrible. 0.96

00:36:43.000 I don't think that's the biggest base voting for Trump.

00:36:48.000 So, you know, I understand what you're saying, but I don't necessarily think that it proves conservatives right if Trump loses.

00:36:53.000 It may just prove sort of the Republican Party is irrelevant.

00:36:56.000 There are several ways to look at it, and I just, I really, I mean, Hillary Clinton would be So disastrous at this point. 0.99

00:37:04.000 I don't know where we are as a country, and it seems like we're playing chicken, only Hillary's the only one driving us off a cliff. 0.89

00:37:09.000 Sure, but she's very much an opportunist, just like her husband is. 0.79

00:37:13.000 And I mean, think about what happened when Bill Clinton got destroyed in his midterm, when he sought re-election.

00:37:18.000 I mean, that guy became a conservative pretty darn quick, talking about welfare reform.

00:37:22.000 I mean, Bill Clinton is the guy that originally said that he didn't want to regulate the Internet, that the government should be...

00:37:27.000 If there was a Democrat running on Bill Clinton right now. 0.84

00:37:29.000 That's just because he wanted the weirdest porn to stay up.

00:37:31.000 That was Anthony Weiner.

00:37:33.000 No, Anthony Weiner was the one uploading the porn.

00:37:37.000 Exactly.

00:37:38.000 They were in cahoots.

00:37:39.000 But, no, I think that when it comes to Hillary Clinton, she's much more of a moderate Democrat. 0.99

00:37:45.000 You know, she's not the kind of like – I don't think she's even as much of a rabid socialist perhaps as Obama is.

00:37:50.000 So, as bad as she is, I think that when it comes to the differences between her and Trump, there really aren't that many big differences.

00:37:58.000 They agreed on a lot of things the other night.

00:38:00.000 Donald Trump saying, hey, if your name is on a terrorist watch list...

00:38:03.000 Sorry, bro!

00:38:05.000 I know!

00:38:08.000 I'm not a huge Trump fan.

00:38:12.000 I was totally against him in the primaries.

00:38:13.000 I just think we're at the point now where the gravity of the situation with Hillary Clinton...

00:38:16.000 Let's stay on this when we come back and we'll also talk about Fox News and Roger Ailes grabbing our butts. 0.99

00:38:21.000 Little known fact, Austin has a great butt. 0.99

00:38:24.000 And it's irresistible. 0.99

00:38:25.000 It is actually, yeah.

00:38:26.000 We'll be right back.

00:38:28.000 Yes, stay tuned.

00:38:31.000 What?

00:38:31.000 I don't know.

00:38:34.000 And now, Hillary Clinton fact-checks in real time that didn't happen, but should have done.

00:38:47.000 These should have.

00:38:49.000 I can't believe these didn't actually happen.

00:38:51.000 Race remains a significant challenge in our country.

00:38:57.000 Unfortunately, race still determines too much.

00:39:00.000 Often determines where people live, determines...

00:39:04.000 What kind of education in their public schools they can get.

00:39:08.000 And yes, it determines how they're treated in the criminal justice system.

00:39:11.000 We have to restore trust between communities and the police.

00:39:19.000 We have to work to make sure that our police are using the best training, the best techniques, that they're well prepared to use force only when necessary.

00:39:34.000 Everyone should be respected by the law, and everyone should respect the law.

00:39:41.000 Right now, that's not the case in a lot of our neighborhoods.

00:39:45.000 So I have, ever since the first day of my campaign, called for criminal justice reform.

00:39:50.000 I've laid out a platform that I think would begin to remedy some of the problems we have in the criminal justice system.

00:39:58.000 Okay, I know you need the black vote now, desperately, but isn't that an about-face, considering your husband's administration incarcerated more black people than anyone to come before him?

00:40:12.000 The three-strike rule? 0.99

00:40:14.000 It's one of the reasons black people hate you? 1.00

00:40:17.000 Kind of. 1.00

00:40:22.000 Hat sauce.

00:40:23.000 Seems obvious, but no one said a thing.

00:40:26.000 Before you kill yourself, stay tuned for more fact checks with Hillary Clinton that should have happened, but didn't. 1.00

00:40:33.000 Damn it. 1.00

00:40:36.000 When it's time to party, we will party hard. 1.00

00:40:38.000 Glad to be back.

00:41:04.000 Austin Peterson, Libertarian candidate, thelibertarianrepublic.com.

00:41:09.000 He is here with us.

00:41:11.000 Cute guy, great guest.

00:41:12.000 Glad to have him on the program.

00:41:13.000 Here's the deal.

00:41:14.000 I understand everything that you're talking about, but the people who, a lot of people who are Libertarians, will get aggravated that you were far more critical of Trump just now and a little more forgiving of Hillary.

00:41:25.000 Even though there aren't maybe, there isn't as stark of a contrast as either one of us would like.

00:41:29.000 I can understand people being like, well, it seems like these people want Hillary Clinton to win just so they can be proven right.

00:41:35.000 Ooh, yeah.

00:41:36.000 Not me.

00:41:37.000 The problems that I have with Hillary are numerous.

00:41:40.000 She's talking about mandatory paid time off, but so is Trump.

00:41:45.000 She's talking about people not being able to have their guns if they're put on terrorist watch lists, but so is Trump.

00:41:51.000 So that's the problem, is that it's much easier to criticize somebody because with Donald Trump, again, with no legislative experience, with no governing experience, He's more of that wild card.

00:42:01.000 I mean, with Hillary, at least you know what you're getting, right?

00:42:04.000 It doesn't mean that I support her or that I'm, like, easier on Hillary Clinton.

00:42:07.000 It's just that, you know, you give up on the Democrats.

00:42:09.000 You have hope for the Republican.

00:42:10.000 But when you have no hope for the Democrat, it's just a waste of time really criticizing them because pretty much everything that comes out of the mouth you're going to disagree with, except for the stop-and-frisk issue, which I do believe is unconstitutional and an abrogation of our Fourth Amendment rights.

00:42:23.000 And that's the thing that Hillary Clinton is more libertarian than Trump on. 1.00

00:42:27.000 So, you know, that's the problem is that a libertarian looks at both sides of these things and says you get something with this candidate and then you lose it with the other candidate.

00:42:35.000 So it's really just a wash.

00:42:37.000 Well, in fairness, I think Hillary, that's a race trying to pick up a few votes with that issue. 1.00

00:42:42.000 It has nothing to do with the principle, I don't think.

00:42:44.000 Yeah, she's trying to win back. 1.00

00:42:45.000 She's like, I can win back the Negroes with hot sauce and being against stop and frisk. 1.00

00:42:51.000 Sure, but why do you think Donald Trump takes any position that he takes, like being against the Iraq War, for example?

00:42:56.000 Do you think that he does that because he thought it was a wrong decision?

00:42:58.000 No, because as soon as it became politically expedient to be against the invasion of Iraq, that's the position that Trump took.

00:43:04.000 So you could argue the same thing for Donald Trump.

00:43:06.000 I think he was against it before it became really popular.

00:43:08.000 I would give him credit there.

00:43:09.000 The Howard Stern thing, notwithstanding, that was kind of off the cuff.

00:43:12.000 I would give him credit as someone who, I remember him and Hannity arguing a while back when Hannity was still pro-Iraq war, a lot of people at Fox News.

00:43:19.000 I think Trump's been pretty consistent on that.

00:43:23.000 Okay, let's say you give him that, but the question is, do you really believe him?

00:43:27.000 Trump strikes me as the type of guy who would be willing to intervene around the world.

00:43:31.000 He strikes me as a rather hostile character.

00:43:34.000 His temperament, that's the problem.

00:43:36.000 You want somebody...

00:43:37.000 She's the one who has a temperament that's unfit. 1.00

00:43:39.000 I've got the great temperament, okay, and the stamina.

00:43:42.000 He's got the stamina.

00:43:44.000 I know.

00:43:45.000 I can't believe that we are here.

00:43:46.000 I do think, listen, when it comes to the Supreme Court, I think that's important.

00:43:49.000 I think he'll be better.

00:43:50.000 When it comes to taxes, I think he'll be better.

00:43:52.000 I do think he'll probably cut down the size of government to a degree.

00:43:56.000 I don't think he has a fundamental, and this is where isms matter.

00:44:00.000 A lot of people say, oh, I don't believe in any ideology. 0.54

00:44:01.000 Well, that's silly.

00:44:02.000 Everyone has an ideology. 0.52

00:44:02.000 You just need to be honest about it. 0.52

00:44:04.000 The ism of you don't get to take away someone's fundamental constitutional right because they were put on an arbitrary list, even if you try to hedge it with, but we'll make it easier for them to get off. 0.95

00:44:13.000 It doesn't matter.

00:44:14.000 If they haven't been convicted of a crime, they don't lose their rights.

00:44:18.000 And that's someone who doesn't understand the concept of a, not a civil right, a human right.

00:44:24.000 It's an individual right to bear arms.

00:44:26.000 And a lot of people will say, when they criticize the Second Amendment, they say, well, what about the militia clause?

00:44:31.000 Well, if you actually go back and you read the Constitution on the base, George Mason, who is George Washington's hunting buddy, said that, I asked, sir, what is the militia?

00:44:38.000 It is the whole other people, except for a few public officials.

00:44:41.000 So that means that it's an individual right to bear arms to the citizens.

00:44:43.000 And those are the type of rights that we need to be defending.

00:44:45.000 But Donald Trump is not a defender of the Second Amendment by any means.

00:44:49.000 But I think, again, with Donald Trump, he is so beholden on the Second Amendment issue that his feet can be held to the fire, and I don't think he'll do anything that would be anything other than pro-Second Amendment.

00:44:58.000 Whereas Hillary Clinton, she's so beholden to donors and so beholden to the Moms Demand action that I think she would go as far left as she could on gun control, which I think would probably make her a one-termer, because that's the single losing-est issue, to use the word, of Democrats. 1.00

00:45:13.000 But I do think that would be a big difference.

00:45:15.000 Well, what would be better, to have two terms of Trump or one term of Hillary? 0.99

00:45:19.000 Don't you think that we'd probably be better off with one term of Hillary?

00:45:22.000 But what if the Muslims come to my house in that one term? 0.97

00:45:25.000 I'm not willing to roll the dice with it. 1.00

00:45:26.000 I need an AR-15 and screw you. 0.99

00:45:28.000 That's my opinion. 0.99

00:45:30.000 Well, you can have your AR-15.

00:45:31.000 That's the thing.

00:45:32.000 But you have to vote for Gary Johnson.

00:45:35.000 Well, I mean, okay.

00:45:36.000 But in your heart of hearts, you say they're pretty similar.

00:45:38.000 Gary Johnson's not going to win.

00:45:39.000 We know that.

00:45:40.000 So you vote for Gary Johnson.

00:45:42.000 Election Day comes out.

00:45:43.000 In your heart of hearts, do you feel better about the country if they say a new president, Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump?

00:45:50.000 I don't feel good either way.

00:45:52.000 I'm being intellectually honest here.

00:45:54.000 I'm not trying to dance around.

00:45:56.000 No, no, I believe you.

00:45:57.000 I have really big problems with both of these candidates.

00:46:00.000 Otherwise, I would support them.

00:46:01.000 If Rand Paul had won, I would have never gone and run for president in the United States as a libertarian.

00:46:07.000 I would have been supporting Rand Paul all the way.

00:46:09.000 If Ted Cruz had won, this would have been a much more difficult situation for me.

00:46:13.000 I ran because I thought, well, there's no way I think Trump is absolutely going to And so for me, it was a chance to give voters an opportunity to vote for someone who actually does care about the Constitution.

00:46:24.000 But these two candidates, neither one of these candidates have any fidelity to the Constitution.

00:46:28.000 So the Republican Party screwed up big time.

00:46:30.000 You may have just tipped your hand there because you said, I thought Trump was going to win.

00:46:33.000 A lot of people were saying, ah, don't worry, he'll fizzle out.

00:46:35.000 Is that because you and I, we both worked at a former news agency, and you know the inside baseball, and Roger Ailes is now working with Trump?

00:46:43.000 Yeah.

00:46:44.000 Did you know that all along?

00:46:45.000 Or like, ah, he's going to get a push?

00:46:46.000 Yeah, of course, because those guys have been buddies for years and years, and Donald Trump's on Fox& Friends every morning, their highest rated show, the cable morning show, and so it was pretty obvious, because it's called the Fox News primary for a reason.

00:46:59.000 If you do well on Fox, then you've got it in the bag.

00:47:03.000 Were you just laughing internally when everyone was going, oh, boycott Fox because Megyn Kelly didn't like Donald Trump?

00:47:09.000 Were you just laughing at the implosion?

00:47:11.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:12.000 And it's amazing what's happened now because here we see if Donald Trump loses, the word on the street is that they're going to start a rival news organization and combine forces with Breitbart to go ahead and try and compete against Fox News.

00:47:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:26.000 And remember, a lot of our former colleagues had contracts like Sean Hannity that gave them outs if Roger Ailes is not the head of the institution.

00:47:34.000 Bill O'Reilly might retire.

00:47:36.000 Megyn Kelly might leave. 1.00

00:47:37.000 Greta Van Susteren, she's gone, man.

00:47:39.000 She's gone.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, I saw her on Facebook like three weeks ago, she did a live stream, and there's a lot of weirdness going on with that, because it almost seemed as if she didn't want to do that, because she was on Facebook, she looked real unhappy. 0.98

00:47:52.000 She was like, well, I just want to keep doing the news, and so I'm going to start doing live streams on Facebook and stuff, and I'm like, damn!

00:47:58.000 And that's new and improved, Greta, with the face work. 0.96

00:48:01.000 Austin Peterson...

00:48:04.000 TheLibertarianRepublic.com.

00:48:05.000 We'll have to have him back because last time we got into a fight on the border.

00:48:09.000 But I love what he has to say.

00:48:10.000 I hope he keeps shaking things up.

00:48:12.000 We have Andrew Bogut coming up soon, right?

00:48:12.000 Stay tuned.

00:48:14.000 Yep.

00:48:15.000 Oh gosh, I don't even know him.

00:48:17.000 Stay tuned.

00:48:17.000 But Jared's a fan.

00:48:34.000 These should've.

00:48:36.000 I can't believe these didn't actually happen.

00:48:38.000 All right, cybersecurity.

00:48:40.000 Mr.

00:48:41.000 Trump calls it the cyber.

00:48:43.000 Hillary Clinton, go. 1.00

00:48:44.000 Well, I think cyber security, cyber warfare will be one of the biggest challenges facing the next president because clearly we're facing at this point two different kinds of adversaries.

00:48:56.000 There are the independent hacking groups that do it mostly for commercial reasons to try to steal information that they then can use to make money.

00:49:07.000 And do you think?

00:49:08.000 We need to make it very clear, whether it's Russia, China, Iran, or anybody else, The United States has much greater capacity, and we are not going to sit idly by and permit state actors to go after our information, our private sector information or our public sector information.

00:49:29.000 And do you think that using private servers to send classified emails from your basement would make...

00:49:29.000 Right.

00:49:38.000 America on a cyber security level, more or less safe?

00:49:43.000 Does that make us more or less?

00:49:50.000 That's us!

00:49:52.000 Stay tuned for more fact checks of Hillary Clinton in real time!

00:49:56.000 That didn't happen...

00:49:57.000 No, really, stay...

00:49:58.000 It gets worse.

00:49:59.000 Stay tuned.

00:50:00.000 Stay tuned.

00:50:12.000 Here we go!

00:50:13.000 I am tweeting out that we are debunking the Adam Ruins Everything because people were asking us on the border wall...

00:50:40.000 I'm tweeting this out right now.

00:50:40.000 You can hear me.

00:50:41.000 Second hour, for those listening terrestrially, not gay, Jared, legal obligations, all that stuff.

00:50:45.000 All that good stuff about the obligations and such.

00:50:48.000 All right.

00:50:50.000 Austin Peterson.

00:50:51.000 Cool guy.

00:50:52.000 Actually, it's fitting that it follows because he's a big proponent of sort of immigration.

00:50:56.000 That's why he can't get on board with someone like Austin Peterson, this multiculturalism, this feigning sort of, oh, who cares about the borders and immigration is great for the United States.

00:51:05.000 Not as it exists.

00:51:07.000 And sometimes I think that, I'm not saying he does this, but when people on the right who are trying to virtue signal with that stuff, they're being intellectually dishonest.

00:51:16.000 The current state of immigration with the United States, illegal immigration with Mexico is a horrendous problem.

00:51:21.000 Everyone knows it.

00:51:23.000 That's what is, really, that's the single issue that is helping Donald Trump.

00:51:28.000 That's the biggest issue helping Donald Trump is that people think he'll do something about that.

00:51:32.000 Because I think more people relate to that even more than the trade issues and things like that.

00:51:36.000 People seem, I think, as a general lesson formed, they kind of grasp the whole immigration problem better than the trade.

00:51:42.000 Well, the general populace.

00:51:43.000 General populace.

00:51:44.000 General populace.

00:51:45.000 They're not necessarily Trump voters, but Hillary voters.

00:51:48.000 The general voting doesn't know a whole lot about trade policy, doesn't know a whole lot about the tax code, beyond what affects them directly.

00:51:56.000 But there are so many day-to-day interactions with the immigration situation, especially in southern states, people are frustrated.

00:52:02.000 By the way, Andrew Bogut will be on next.

00:52:08.000 Christopher Titus.

00:52:09.000 Christopher Titus.

00:52:10.000 And Donald Trump himself.

00:52:11.000 Donald Trump himself.

00:52:12.000 LeBron James got into hot water this week.

00:52:13.000 Let's just hit these really quickly because he said all lives matter.

00:52:16.000 Was entirely reasonable.

00:52:17.000 He said, hey...

00:52:18.000 We'll talk about that with Andrew Bogut. 0.95

00:52:20.000 Anyway, see what his opinion on the outrage is silly.

00:52:23.000 Ben Shapiro is being sued by Clock Boy.

00:52:26.000 He is truly the gift that keeps on giving.

00:52:29.000 Ben, I feel...

00:52:30.000 Because that's going to be expensive.

00:52:32.000 So Ben, I'm not making light of it.

00:52:32.000 It will be.

00:52:34.000 I feel bad for you.

00:52:36.000 But that is hysterical.

00:52:38.000 And of course, that's all he does is sue.

00:52:40.000 That's all the kid knows how to do is sue.

00:52:42.000 Well, I know we have a lawsuit on us.

00:52:44.000 Yeah, just didn't make it to the P.O. box.

00:52:46.000 That's okay.

00:52:47.000 You have no idea.

00:52:48.000 So we don't have a ton of time.

00:52:50.000 So this video is going viral right now.

00:52:51.000 I want to get to this first.

00:52:53.000 Adam Ruins Everything is a show.

00:52:54.000 I've actually really liked Adam Ruins Everything on quite a few things.

00:52:57.000 I've taken some sort of, I guess, libertarian stances.

00:52:59.000 Sometimes they're kind of social justice leftist.

00:53:01.000 But generally speaking, it's pretty informative.

00:53:04.000 This is one where they were completely wrong.

00:53:07.000 And not even realizing how wrong they were.

00:53:10.000 This comes from College Humor.

00:53:11.000 It's a show on...

00:53:12.000 What is it?

00:53:13.000 It's also on TV. I think it's on TruTV.

00:53:13.000 What's the network?

00:53:15.000 TruTV.

00:53:16.000 TruTV.

00:53:16.000 One of those kind of hotel-only stations.

00:53:18.000 Yeah.

00:53:19.000 I don't think many people watch.

00:53:21.000 And, well...

00:53:23.000 If you're listening to it, it could sound plausible, what he says, but I've got some information here that might just smack you over the head.

00:53:29.000 So let's roll the first clip.

00:53:32.000 Building a wall would actually increase the number of illegal immigrants in America.

00:53:39.000 Nope.

00:53:39.000 What?

00:53:40.000 How could it possibly?

00:53:41.000 Here, I'll show you.

00:53:44.000 And he goes on from there.

00:53:46.000 And he goes on from there.

00:53:46.000 So first off, that is not true.

00:53:48.000 Let me tell you something here.

00:53:49.000 A book that I recommend.

00:53:50.000 It's up on my page, Stolen Sovereignty, How to Stop Unelected Judges from Transferring America.

00:53:53.000 Daniel Horowitz, forward by Mark Levin.

00:53:56.000 He talks about illegal immigration quite a bit in a way that is very informative and very enlightening.

00:54:01.000 So I would recommend putting that in your reference book.

00:54:06.000 Do we have the first clip where he talks about the percentage of immigration?

00:54:08.000 Is that the first clip?

00:54:09.000 I think the first one is NASA. Oh, okay, let's go to that one.

00:54:12.000 So here, let's go point by point.

00:54:14.000 Yes, they are, because it's estimated that between 27 and 40% of all undocumented immigrants in America came here on planes.

00:54:22.000 Okay.

00:54:24.000 Here's something, and that's just said so flippantly, right?

00:54:27.000 Oh, building a wall because 27 to 40% of our people come in on planes, he goes on to say overstaying their visas.

00:54:35.000 Got it.

00:54:37.000 Have you done the math yet?

00:54:38.000 That means at minimum 60% of illegal immigration doesn't occur from planes and visas.

00:54:47.000 Some would call that a majority, Stephen.

00:54:48.000 Up to 73%.

00:54:51.000 At least not planes and visas.

00:54:52.000 So here's the deal.

00:54:53.000 Does it mean that a wall will fix everything?

00:54:55.000 No one's saying that.

00:54:56.000 But if you could have some sort of an effect on, let's use the most conservative figure, 60% of illegal immigration by his own admission, how is that not significant enough to build a wall?

00:55:08.000 This is what the left does.

00:55:09.000 Again, it's just one of those things like Anthony Cumia was saying was, well, you think a wall's going to do anything?

00:55:13.000 You think it's going to do anything if it's only 60 to 73% of illegal immigration?

00:55:19.000 Yes, I do!

00:55:19.000 Yes!

00:55:20.000 I think we should...

00:55:21.000 If you had...

00:55:21.000 Joe Rogan talks about this.

00:55:22.000 If you had a ham sandwich that was 60% crap and 40% ham, you'd probably want... 1.00

00:55:27.000 Do something about the crap! 1.00

00:55:29.000 It's still 60% crap! 1.00

00:55:31.000 So the number there right off the bat... 1.00

00:55:32.000 It's like most hot dogs.

00:55:33.000 That's the percentage.

00:55:34.000 That's just true.

00:55:35.000 The number right there, right off the bat, should concern you.

00:55:38.000 It debunks the entire argument.

00:55:41.000 If you believe that even curbing that pesky little 60-70% is worthwhile, you don't even need to watch the rest of the video.

00:55:48.000 I do.

00:55:49.000 I assume many of you do.

00:55:50.000 Let's assume you say, you know what?

00:55:51.000 I'll give them 60-70%.

00:55:55.000 Continue, next clip.

00:55:56.000 It would easily be one of the single most expensive pieces of infrastructure in American history, costing as much as 20 Hoover dams or NASA's entire annual budget.

00:56:07.000 Just an annual budget?

00:56:09.000 So not that much!

00:56:10.000 Just one?

00:56:11.000 One annual budget?

00:56:12.000 This is supposed to turn us off?

00:56:15.000 I say we turn NASA off for a year.

00:56:16.000 Just throttle it for a year.

00:56:19.000 Like the UN will do with the internet. 0.76

00:56:21.000 Yep.

00:56:22.000 Throttle it a little bit and just start putting up the wall.

00:56:25.000 It is unreal.

00:56:26.000 That's not that expensive, particularly when you look at the economic ramifications, positive ones, when you stop illegal immigration.

00:56:33.000 Next clip.

00:56:34.000 Even by your estimate of visa overstays, the wall would still stop about half of America's 11 million illegal immigrants.

00:56:41.000 No, it wouldn't.

00:56:42.000 Because of a little something called circular flow.

00:56:44.000 Here, I'll show you.

00:56:45.000 Incorrect, I'll tell you why.

00:56:46.000 Keep going.

00:56:47.000 For decades, immigration to the U.S. was a circular flow.

00:56:50.000 People would come, work for a bit, and then after they were done, go home to their families.

00:56:56.000 A, that's not entirely true, and B, that's morally reprehensible.

00:57:01.000 That was never what America was intended to be.

00:57:04.000 It wasn't intended to be a revolving door so people could come in, abuse a system, and leave.

00:57:10.000 You don't come to a country to drain from the country to send to other countries.

00:57:14.000 That's not how a country works.

00:57:15.000 That's not being ethnocentric.

00:57:16.000 That's not being xenophobic.

00:57:17.000 That's called having a country, okay?

00:57:20.000 Something else...

00:57:23.000 It's very different.

00:57:24.000 This is the thing with Austin Peterson and libertarians.

00:57:26.000 The revolving door, they talk about people coming in revolving door to work and send back benefits.

00:57:30.000 A, that's not right.

00:57:32.000 You don't get to do that.

00:57:33.000 You move here legally, period.

00:57:34.000 We've already covered that.

00:57:35.000 But the revolving door for work is very different from a revolving door for entitlements.

00:57:42.000 People are going through the revolving door right now and not paying for health care and not paying taxes and getting all of the social benefits, the benefits from the social safety net from hardworking Americans.

00:57:54.000 It's never supposed to be a revolving door, and it's worse now because a lot of illegal immigrants aren't really coming here to work. 1.00

00:58:01.000 Not all of them, but many of them are coming here and they're taking more than they're giving.

00:58:05.000 It's not like working in New York and living in New Jersey.

00:58:08.000 No, it's a little bit different.

00:58:11.000 Next clip.

00:58:12.000 It's counterintuitive, but building a wall wouldn't stop people from coming in.

00:58:15.000 It would actually stop them from going back.

00:58:18.000 No, that's not true.

00:58:19.000 Next clip.

00:58:20.000 The number of illegal border crossings is actually at an all-time low.

00:58:24.000 No, that's not true.

00:58:25.000 I have it up right here.

00:58:27.000 Washington Examiner.

00:58:29.000 Illegal border crossings by children and families are surging again and will put the fiscal year of 2016 on par with 2014.

00:58:34.000 There's a chart for you.

00:58:35.000 Here's why.

00:58:37.000 Listen, at a certain point, of course, immigration is going to start slowing down because Mexico has dumped a tenth. 0.98

00:58:44.000 Ten percent of its population have moved to the United States.

00:58:46.000 So at a certain point, you're going to hit a critical mass of how many people can leave their crappy country to a better country, the United States.

00:58:53.000 Ten percent?

00:58:54.000 Twelve?

00:58:55.000 Maybe it'll go back to eight?

00:58:56.000 It'll hover around there.

00:58:57.000 Now, here's why this chart occurred.

00:59:00.000 Because of all...

00:59:02.000 Actually, the deportations, as they've plummeted, more people have been coming back in.

00:59:07.000 And now we're facing the surge that we had in 2014.

00:59:09.000 So, the inverse is true of what they've said.

00:59:11.000 As deportations have plummeted, as Barack Obama tried to act, and really what's happened is people are being treated...

00:59:18.000 More humanely, they would...

00:59:20.000 Well, there's...

00:59:20.000 Now, all of a sudden, we see this.

00:59:22.000 You can see this sort of like a fat caterpillar in the graph.

00:59:24.000 We have a problem with illegal immigration again, of course, and the problems that come with that, draining on the system, the problem of the social safety net, of fiscal responsibility. 1.00

00:59:33.000 Do we have more clips?

00:59:34.000 We have to close.

00:59:35.000 Okay, let's see the close, and then I'll close.

00:59:36.000 Oh, my God, Adam, you're right.

00:59:39.000 The wall isn't the answer.

00:59:40.000 Oh, good.

00:59:41.000 I'm so glad I could help.

00:59:43.000 Millions of people are already here.

00:59:45.000 We need to deport them.

00:59:48.000 Yes. 0.93

00:59:49.000 Deportation is the answer. 1.00

00:59:50.000 No.

00:59:51.000 There you go.

00:59:52.000 Because of course it's racist to deport people who've broken the law and come here illegally.

00:59:57.000 Again, that's that sleight of hand.

01:00:00.000 It starts off with, well, it would only help with maybe.

01:00:03.000 Maybe half, maybe 60, 73%.

01:00:05.000 And so if you just hear that, you don't even think about it.

01:00:08.000 You're thinking you heard 10%. 0.92

01:00:09.000 You go, well, then that's silly.

01:00:10.000 Why would we spend the whole NASA budget to stop 10%?

01:00:12.000 No, you're spending actually a very reasonable budget.

01:00:15.000 And we can get Mexico to pay for at least a portion of it if you look at the actual plans and tariffs and what you can do with the transfer of money.

01:00:22.000 Donald Trump isn't completely unrealistic to get them to pay for a portion of it.

01:00:26.000 You can pay for that.

01:00:27.000 It's realistic.

01:00:29.000 And that would deal with 60 to 70-something percent of illegal immigration.

01:00:32.000 But if you don't understand what you're hearing, you go along with them down that logic trail, and you follow them with false stat, false stat, false idea, false narrative, to the point where deportation is racist, and you get to call Donald Trump or people like us racist, people like me, who come from legal immigrants like my mom, who learn the language, who pay taxes, who are active contributing citizens, because Adam Conover told you.

01:00:51.000 Here's something, too.

01:00:52.000 This idea that we don't take in enough legal immigrants...

01:00:56.000 It's just not true.

01:00:57.000 It's not even close.

01:00:58.000 50% of all immigrants since 1965 have come from Latin America, 29 from Mexico alone.

01:01:04.000 That's not even taking into account people who come here illegally, who overstay visas.

01:01:07.000 More people have come to the United States from Mexico than any other country in our modern history, okay?

01:01:12.000 Over the past 44 years, they have these numbers.

01:01:13.000 6.65 million people have emigrated legally to the United States compared to the previous record world record holder, Italy, 4.5 million.

01:01:26.000 It's not even close.

01:01:28.000 This idea that we don't take enough Mexicans in legally, that it's incredibly hard.

01:01:32.000 More legal people have come to the United States from Mexico by an unbelievable margin.

01:01:38.000 It can be done.

01:01:39.000 It's been done from Mexico more than any other country.

01:01:41.000 And of course, it's been done by plenty of other countries.

01:01:44.000 So building a wall, beefing up the security.

01:01:46.000 Well, you have to decide, is it worth it to spend a relatively small amount to stop 60 to 70 percent of illegal immigration?

01:01:54.000 We'll be right back.

01:01:54.000 I leave that to you.

01:01:56.000 We'll be right back. 0.99

01:02:08.000 Shooting bad guys. 0.99

01:02:09.000 With what? 0.60

01:02:10.000 By AR-15.

01:02:11.000 Where'd you get it?

01:02:12.000 AR-15.com.

01:02:13.000 Enunciate it more clearly so our audience can hear.

01:02:16.000 AR-15.com.

01:02:18.000 That's better.

01:02:19.000 They sell guns now?

01:02:21.000 Yeah, they do.

01:02:22.000 Are they any good?

01:02:23.000 They're the best.

01:02:24.000 Where from?

01:02:25.000 AR-15.com.

01:02:26.000 Kapoor!

01:02:27.000 You really make that sound?

01:02:28.000 Didn't have the budget for sound effects.

01:02:30.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:02:31.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:02:32.000 Oh, there's another one!

01:02:33.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:02:34.000 You shot him!

01:02:35.000 With what?

01:02:36.000 By AR-15.

01:02:37.000 AR-15.com.

01:02:37.000 From where?

01:02:39.000 Hey, how do you know they're bad guys?

01:02:41.000 Derpids and burkas. 1.00

01:02:42.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:02:42.000 That's racist! 0.99

01:02:44.000 And now, Lester Holt finds himself in a pickle. .

01:02:59.000 Hey, guys!

01:03:00.000 What are you doing?

01:03:02.000 What's that albino Indian dude thing?

01:03:05.000 I think he's talking to me.

01:03:05.000 I don't know.

01:03:07.000 What's going on, brothers?

01:03:09.000 What?

01:03:10.000 Did he even say brother?

01:03:12.000 Yeah, I think he did.

01:03:13.000 Yes, you there.

01:03:14.000 I'm talking to you boys.

01:03:16.000 My Negroes.

01:03:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:03:19.000 Okay, yeah. 1.00

01:03:20.000 No, I think I'm definitely going to have to kick his ass. 1.00

01:03:22.000 Yeah, I'd probably shoot him. 1.00

01:03:23.000 This has been Lester Holt. 0.98

01:03:25.000 Finds himself in a pickle.

01:03:27.000 Glad to be back.

01:03:51.000 Andrew Bogut coming up next.

01:03:52.000 A-lister.

01:03:54.000 You're not a fan, though.

01:03:56.000 You're a fan of the Cavs.

01:03:57.000 I can see myself being a fan of Andrew Bogut, though.

01:04:01.000 He's not in Golden State anymore.

01:04:03.000 He's in Dallas.

01:04:04.000 He is in Dallas, and he doesn't like the Social Justice Warriors.

01:04:07.000 Before I get to the next issue...

01:04:10.000 A lot of people are asking for us to get that Adam Conover rant on or the Emma Watson rant on the YouTubes afterward as its own segment.

01:04:17.000 I put up a poll before.

01:04:19.000 Okay, were you happy with Donald Trump's performance?

01:04:23.000 1,300 people voted in less than a half hour.

01:04:25.000 31% yes.

01:04:27.000 40% said no.

01:04:28.000 29% said needs more stamina.

01:04:32.000 Which, of course, probably means no.

01:04:35.000 We've got to stop getting the results with those.

01:04:35.000 Most likely, yeah.

01:04:38.000 We do, indeed.

01:04:42.000 Yep.

01:04:43.000 Okay, there you go.

01:04:44.000 That gives you, you know, listen, our readers here tend to be pretty impartial with that.

01:04:48.000 They obviously would prefer Trump over Hillary Clinton. 0.94

01:04:50.000 The general consensus is he didn't do that great in the debate.

01:04:53.000 So, I don't think it does anyone any favors to lie to yourselves about it.

01:04:58.000 It's like disciplining a child.

01:05:00.000 Listen, he didn't do well.

01:05:01.000 There are some changes he can make to improve.

01:05:03.000 If people just tell him it's like that corner man, you're great!

01:05:06.000 No one can touch your kid.

01:05:08.000 And they're getting beaten up.

01:05:09.000 You're doing beautiful.

01:05:10.000 Keep doing exactly what you're doing.

01:05:12.000 And it's like, he's losing.

01:05:13.000 I got a D on my report.

01:05:15.000 Looks like an A to me, kid.

01:05:19.000 It's a D. Just put a line in the middle.

01:05:21.000 It's a B. No one can touch you.

01:05:25.000 So, okay, anyways, talking about that, we don't have video, right?

01:05:27.000 We have a video intro.

01:05:29.000 Oh, we have a video intro.

01:05:30.000 Okay, this was Ariel Winter from Modern Family.

01:05:33.000 My wife loves that show. 0.97

01:05:34.000 I kind of like the show.

01:05:36.000 She is the worst part of the show, and I'm not just saying that because now I can't stand her. 0.99

01:05:41.000 She's always been the weak link, and I just feel that this isn't...

01:05:44.000 By the way, if you have children listening...

01:05:46.000 We never self-censor, but I was, fun enough, on the Alex Jones show, they invited me on, and a lot of people don't know how to handle that.

01:05:52.000 Listen, I go on anyone's show, whether it's left or right, and he's been very friendly with me, even though we disagree a lot.

01:05:58.000 His kid listens to me, listens to this program, watches this program.

01:06:01.000 A lot of people tell me, hey, my 12-year-old watches or listens.

01:06:05.000 Now, we're never going to cater to them, and we've never done a show that's really anything much more severe than, I guess, PG-13.

01:06:13.000 Like we said, it's just our choice of program.

01:06:15.000 Mm-hmm.

01:06:15.000 However, there are some things that they probably shouldn't hear if you don't want them.

01:06:20.000 So this next segment, probably if your kids are in, fair warning.

01:06:24.000 Ariel Winter has been a subject of a lot of discussion this week.

01:06:26.000 Let's roll this clip to set it up. 0.99

01:06:30.000 What are we doing here?

01:06:31.000 Oh, we're running it there through the computer?

01:06:33.000 It's trying to.

01:06:34.000 Is it trying to load it?

01:06:34.000 It's trying to load it.

01:06:35.000 Alright, let me know when it's up and when we're ready.

01:06:37.000 Just give me a hand signal.

01:06:39.000 She took some revealing pictures, I guess you would say, on Instagram, Snapchat, whatever it is, and people commented, lots of positive, lots of negative, and so it became an entire commentary on whether the internet is sexist and how men react to it and about body shaming.

01:06:53.000 Do we have the clip?

01:06:55.000 It's time to reload.

01:06:56.000 It doesn't like this clip at all.

01:06:57.000 All right, then we just want to go to the images?

01:06:58.000 Yeah, go to the image.

01:06:59.000 Let's go to the image.

01:06:59.000 Okay, so this was the image that she put up for those listening terrestrially.

01:07:02.000 Okay, look at that picture.

01:07:03.000 Listen, there's one thing you see when you look at that picture.

01:07:06.000 It's a great birthday cake.

01:07:07.000 They put that as a great birthday cake.

01:07:10.000 They put up that picture, and it was all...

01:07:10.000 Fantastic.

01:07:12.000 Can you just show us the next picture real quick just so we can see it?

01:07:14.000 Yep.

01:07:15.000 Here's the next picture that she put up on Instagram.

01:07:18.000 Okay, those, but where was the other one where it was her and the little jeans?

01:07:21.000 That was the ones I got there.

01:07:23.000 Okay, it's in the video.

01:07:23.000 It's in the video.

01:07:24.000 So she put up these ultra-revealing pictures, and I guess some people commented in sexually ways and saying, hey, hey, you know, don't worry, this is just the industry.

01:07:32.000 It's sexism. 0.72

01:07:33.000 Here's the deal.

01:07:34.000 It's not sexism.

01:07:36.000 Okay, let me explain something.

01:07:37.000 This is actually worse.

01:07:38.000 It's more unfair to men.

01:07:39.000 And let me give you a little bit of a reality check, okay?

01:07:41.000 Ariel Winter and people who think she's brave.

01:07:43.000 By the way, I love how the body shaming, I love how the body, they talk about body shaming, like, I'm proud of my body.

01:07:47.000 And they take a picture where they've clearly taken 12 takes with all the Instagram filters.

01:07:52.000 Let me change the shadow and the vignette.

01:07:53.000 Let me change the contrast.

01:07:54.000 No puppy filter.

01:07:55.000 No puppy.

01:07:55.000 And they're doing the vacuum stomach pose like Frank Zane circa Mr.

01:08:00.000 Olympia.

01:08:01.000 No, they're not just showing the frumpy picture of them in a bikini from paparazzi.

01:08:04.000 It's their best possible pose to say they're proud of their body.

01:08:07.000 They're just as vain.

01:08:08.000 The problem with this is it's vanity, it's shallow, everything disguised as though it's female pride. 0.63

01:08:14.000 So she puts these pictures up.

01:08:15.000 People respond.

01:08:16.000 People say it's sexist.

01:08:17.000 Here's the deal. 0.94

01:08:17.000 If a guy says, show me your boobs, is that sexist? 0.94

01:08:20.000 That doesn't mean he hates women, but it's at the very least inappropriate, ungentlemanly, say misogynistic. 0.96

01:08:25.000 Sure, you shouldn't do that.

01:08:27.000 However, if, like this woman... 0.99

01:08:29.000 The lady comes up, or Errol Winter, and says, here are my tits. 0.99

01:08:33.000 And a man says, hmm, I approve or disapproves, as you see with comments on the internet. 1.00

01:08:39.000 Hmm, I like said tits. 1.00

01:08:41.000 Sorry, like I said, get your kids out of the room when we're talking about this. 1.00

01:08:44.000 By the way, almost always if you're showing your boobs, you have to have a Big swing and a miss for the feedback to not be positive. 0.98

01:08:51.000 We're fans of the boobs. 1.00

01:08:51.000 Okay? 1.00

01:08:52.000 You're graded on a curve quite literally.

01:08:55.000 The feedback was from some people, hey, you look great, very sexual, and some people said put some clothes on.

01:09:01.000 Here's the deal.

01:09:05.000 You're the one who sexualized it.

01:09:07.000 That is what men will see. 1.00

01:09:09.000 You can't get angry if they respond in a sexual way when you say, here are my tits. 1.00

01:09:14.000 There's nothing unnatural. 0.97

01:09:16.000 Now, I'm not saying men should sexually assault or act on these urges, but this was met when you upload these pictures.

01:09:21.000 I'm telling you, behind the scenes with one of two reactions from men.

01:09:24.000 Either fathers who have daughters across the world groaning because they can't let their daughter follow Ariel.

01:09:28.000 Ariel Winter on Instagram anymore, or the sound of personal skin-on-skin contact for a bunch of teenagers in their bedrooms who are fans of Ariel Winter.

01:09:36.000 We try and whitewash this, like, this is a sexy picture on Instagram or Snapchat.

01:09:40.000 Oh, they have a picture of Ariel Winter above their bed.

01:09:42.000 Let me tell you, do you have any idea how disgusting, how awful it is what teenage boys are doing with pictures like this in their bedroom?

01:09:50.000 Okay, look at Come on, do you know?

01:09:52.000 Let's be real about it.

01:09:54.000 It's not an art critique.

01:09:56.000 These people aren't looking and examining. 0.94

01:09:58.000 It's masturbatorial material for tweens who watch Modern Family.

01:10:02.000 Do you have an idea how disgusting the actual physical uses are for these posters that are printed out at Kinko's and you're mad about a comment on Instagram? 0.98

01:10:11.000 You have no idea as to how disgusting the teenage boy male mind is. 0.83

01:10:17.000 I'm not excusing sexual assault at all. 1.00

01:10:20.000 But it's like if you put a piece of bacon on a dog's nose and he's the most well-behaved dog and he sits there, not saying he can eat the bacon, but you laugh or say he's a bad dog because he's drooling at the bacon, you upload a picture of your tits! 1.00

01:10:34.000 Here are my titties! 0.99

01:10:36.000 And a guy saying, hmm, I like those breasts. 1.00

01:10:39.000 And then you accuse them of being sexist.

01:10:41.000 And then say, we're going to stay strong.

01:10:43.000 No body shaming.

01:10:44.000 Here's an idea.

01:10:45.000 How about learning something?

01:10:47.000 How about reading a book?

01:10:48.000 How about learning to act and stop being the weakest link on Modern Family to begin with? 0.99

01:10:53.000 Then you can show people your tits and accuse them of being sexist. 0.99

01:10:57.000 It is so crazy. 1.00

01:10:58.000 And young men are just constantly guilted.

01:11:01.000 It is such a bait and trap for young men. 0.51

01:11:04.000 Here are my breasts, and then they reprimand young men for liking that they get to look at breasts. 0.77

01:11:09.000 Of course! 0.95

01:11:11.000 Older men like looking at breasts. 1.00

01:11:13.000 But that's feminism now. 1.00

01:11:15.000 Sexualize yourself and blame the men who react sexually. 0.73

01:11:19.000 Andrew Bogut?

01:11:20.000 Andrew Bogut coming up next.

01:11:21.000 This will be more fun.

01:11:21.000 Mercy.

01:11:22.000 And now phone calls between Sean Hannity and Donald Trump.

01:11:38.000 Thank you.

01:11:52.000 Hello?

01:11:53.000 I just want to make sure to tell you that you had a great debate.

01:11:53.000 Hey there, Donald.

01:11:56.000 The polls all have you ahead.

01:11:58.000 Okay, thanks.

01:12:00.000 That's great.

01:12:01.000 And I want to say, Donald, that you were definitely against the war in Iraq.

01:12:06.000 Uh-huh.

01:12:07.000 Yep.

01:12:09.000 You were definitely against the war.

01:12:12.000 Uh-huh.

01:12:13.000 So, uh...

01:12:15.000 What are you wearing? 0.80

01:12:18.000 Sure, what the hell is wrong with you?

01:12:19.000 It's 2 o'clock in the morning, okay?

01:12:21.000 I gotta go.

01:12:21.000 Sure, sure.

01:12:22.000 I'll call back.

01:12:23.000 You're a great American. 1.00

01:12:24.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:12:25.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:12:55.000 All right, glad to be back today. 0.99

01:12:57.000 This guest, you know, we have an A-lister here, not Gay Jared. 0.99

01:13:00.000 I don't know what happened.

01:13:00.000 We do.

01:13:02.000 Story behind it, of course, you can follow him on Twitter.

01:13:04.000 You know who he is.

01:13:06.000 He's one of the best at putting the balls in the hoops in the world.

01:13:09.000 You're such a fan girl.

01:13:10.000 At Andrew Bogut.

01:13:11.000 Thank you for being here, sir.

01:13:13.000 No worries.

01:13:13.000 Thanks for having me.

01:13:14.000 I can't believe that you are here after the fiasco that occurred through our direct messages.

01:13:19.000 Do you remember that, or is it just more embarrassing for me?

01:13:21.000 Somewhat.

01:13:22.000 Somewhat.

01:13:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:23.000 I kind of figured it was a gap.

01:13:25.000 No, it wasn't a gap.

01:13:28.000 Jared told me, he's like, hey, Andrew Bogut follows you.

01:13:31.000 It would be great to get him on the show.

01:13:32.000 I said, okay, full disclosure, I don't watch basketball at all.

01:13:35.000 I've since watched your playing.

01:13:38.000 Very impressive.

01:13:39.000 So he goes, yeah, yeah, he's in the playoffs right now, and he's playing against the Cavs, and then Jared said, yeah, they just won, talking about the Cavs.

01:13:46.000 And so I messaged Andrew Bogut saying, hey, we'd love to get you on.

01:13:49.000 Congrats on the big win.

01:13:51.000 And I get a text from Not Gay Jared with the most expletives I've ever seen. 1.00

01:13:55.000 He's like, you effing idiot! 1.00

01:13:57.000 You blew it! 1.00

01:13:58.000 You blew it!

01:13:59.000 It's like 1 a.m.

01:14:00.000 I just happened to see it before I went to bed.

01:14:01.000 I'm like...

01:14:02.000 Oh no!

01:14:04.000 Yeah, all good.

01:14:05.000 I went to my safe space. 0.98

01:14:09.000 I mean, looking back, if you thought that was deliberate, that would be as brilliant a dick move as one could pull off. 0.98

01:14:19.000 That's true. 0.96

01:14:20.000 Yeah, it was really good.

01:14:21.000 Yeah, it would have been. 0.99

01:14:21.000 Unfortunately, it's just I'm a total moron when it comes to that. 0.99

01:14:25.000 But, no, we're glad to have you on. 0.92

01:14:27.000 Now, what did strike me, you know, I have a bunch of, like, these celebrities sometimes who follow me.

01:14:30.000 I'm like, why is Candace Cameron following me?

01:14:34.000 Your Twitter profile doesn't say, what does it say, pissing off SJWs?

01:14:38.000 Triggering SJWs.

01:14:39.000 Yeah, that's what it was for a while.

01:14:41.000 Not a popular move, I would imagine, in today's PC sports culture.

01:14:52.000 What made you feel compelled to put that on the profile?

01:14:55.000 I just like getting them riled up.

01:14:59.000 It's just good fun.

01:15:01.000 Twitter's a cesspool of cesspools, first off.

01:15:04.000 But everyone's got an opinion on something, and that should be more than respected.

01:15:08.000 But obviously, with certain people, if your opinion's not along their route, you're in some trouble.

01:15:15.000 Well, it's funny.

01:15:16.000 One thing I will say, obviously, if you detect a hint of accent there, I believe he's Australian.

01:15:20.000 Truthfully, Americans can't tell if he's an Australian in New Zealand.

01:15:23.000 They don't know the difference.

01:15:26.000 There you go.

01:15:27.000 I always get the sense a lot of other people from Europe, they're anti-American.

01:15:31.000 With Australians, I've spent a lot of time with them, comedy festivals and the like.

01:15:34.000 They don't seem to have that complex.

01:15:36.000 It seems to be pretty friendly. 0.97

01:15:37.000 Am I just a silly American or is it reciprocated? 0.99

01:15:40.000 We definitely make fun of Americans just like Americans make fun of Australians. 0.99

01:15:45.000 We have a pretty dry sense of humor.

01:15:47.000 You've got to be able to laugh at yourself before you can laugh at other people.

01:15:50.000 I feel like we both have a good sense of humor in that sense.

01:15:55.000 Very similar attitudes when it comes to that stuff.

01:15:57.000 We don't really make fun of Australia.

01:15:59.000 You guys don't come up that much.

01:16:01.000 I'm Steve Owen and what's the restaurant in the Outback?

01:16:04.000 I get all that stuff all the time.

01:16:06.000 Yes, yes.

01:16:07.000 By the way, have you been to Outback Steakhouse?

01:16:09.000 On a scale from 1 to 10, how offensive is it?

01:16:12.000 It's very triggering.

01:16:14.000 I'm out of there with a panic attack a lot of times.

01:16:16.000 Oh, it is awful. 0.98

01:16:18.000 Appropriation is just ridiculous. 0.91

01:16:19.000 Yes, I assume that the Bloomin' Onion is a native dish to Australia. 0.94

01:16:25.000 Yeah, very much so.

01:16:26.000 Yes, and it grows.

01:16:27.000 It grows.

01:16:27.000 As you see out here amidst our safari, that is the Bloomin' Onion field.

01:16:32.000 And I will say this, though.

01:16:34.000 The social justice...

01:16:35.000 Because Australians are typically going to be more liberal anyways than Americans.

01:16:37.000 It's just kind of the nature.

01:16:39.000 So social justice warriors, do they exist, this politically correct, offended by everything?

01:16:44.000 Do they exist in Australia the same way they do here?

01:16:47.000 Yeah, I think they exist everywhere.

01:16:49.000 I mean, that's just the part of the world today.

01:16:53.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:16:53.000 Like I said, if you don't agree with what the mainstream or what the majority is saying, obviously you'll get labeled whatever and people will say that you're not a nice guy or an asshole. 0.99

01:17:05.000 I'm more than frankly okay with being caught in an asshole. 0.97

01:17:08.000 I have principles that I stick to and I have opinions which may be wrong or right and I expect when you put an opinion out that you're going to have some positives and some negatives and that's a part of putting out an opinion. 0.98

01:17:17.000 I can't relate to people that deny other people's right to have an opinion and then say it's wrong when it's simply an opinion.

01:17:27.000 How did you come to that?

01:17:28.000 Because you're coming from Australia, where it's obviously not like this American right wing.

01:17:31.000 You're playing in the NBA, where most people are obviously African American, or people tend to lean to the left.

01:17:37.000 They discipline people for being politically incorrect.

01:17:39.000 How does an Australian basketball player come to these principles and opinions?

01:17:44.000 You must know you're an anomaly in that sense.

01:17:46.000 Yeah, but first off, look, politics is politics.

01:17:48.000 I'm not left, I'm not right, I'm middle.

01:17:50.000 I have opinions on certain issues, but I think it's just a matter of being you.

01:17:56.000 A lot of people, you know, I tweeted a while ago, whatever happened to this election, whichever way it goes here in the States when we have an election in Australia, You still got to get up in the morning and go to work.

01:18:07.000 Right.

01:18:08.000 You still have to take your kids to school.

01:18:10.000 You still have to pick your kids up.

01:18:11.000 You still have to feed your kids.

01:18:12.000 You have to go grocery shopping.

01:18:14.000 You know, people that lose friends and family over politicians and politics, I feel sorry for those people because it's a huge mistake.

01:18:21.000 Those politicians, you know, whatever side they're on, couldn't care.

01:18:25.000 They don't really care about you deep down inside, you know, and that's what frustrates me with the whole system.

01:18:31.000 Right.

01:18:31.000 Well, oh, I think his video turned off.

01:18:33.000 Can you still hear us, Andrew Bogut?

01:18:35.000 Is Andrew Bogut still there?

01:18:36.000 Did we lose him?

01:18:37.000 Yeah, we're bringing him back here.

01:18:38.000 We're bringing back Andrew Bogut.

01:18:39.000 Hold on one second here.

01:18:41.000 We might have lost the...

01:18:42.000 Yeah, we found that.

01:18:43.000 All right, there you go.

01:18:43.000 Okay, we lost you for a second.

01:18:45.000 Hotel Internet's not great. 0.99

01:18:45.000 Damn that... 0.99

01:18:47.000 Damn that jet-setting lifestyle. 1.00

01:18:48.000 It's almost like you're a professional athlete. 1.00

01:18:51.000 So, you're right about that.

01:18:53.000 It shouldn't be that way.

01:18:53.000 But is that maybe where you come on the social justice warrior side, why they're so obnoxious?

01:18:59.000 Because they will cut you out just for having the wrong opinion.

01:19:02.000 I mean, it used to be you could be left, you could be right, free speech was something we all agreed on.

01:19:06.000 That's not the case anymore.

01:19:08.000 Yeah, and that's what frustrates a lot of people with that kind of stuff.

01:19:12.000 Like I said, an opinion is not necessarily right or wrong, but it's someone's opinion.

01:19:17.000 I'd rather know if I ask somebody if they like me or not.

01:19:20.000 I'd rather them tell me, yeah, I don't like you.

01:19:23.000 I just want to hang out with you anymore.

01:19:24.000 I don't want to hear, oh, you know, this, that, this, that.

01:19:27.000 That's kind of the answer that you have to give these days.

01:19:29.000 I'm kind of from that older era of just tell it like it is.

01:19:35.000 I'd rather that know where I stand and we move on.

01:19:37.000 But like I said, I'm from a family that's a laborer's family, you know, that one day I was a laborer and I grew up around mechanical workshops and everyday people.

01:19:46.000 So, you know, whenever I do have opinions, it's, oh, it's a dollar.

01:19:49.000 So, you know, that's just a part of it on Twitter and that's why you get to have fun with it.

01:19:54.000 Well, okay, so a good example, obviously, this week, LeBron.

01:19:56.000 I don't know if you followed what he just said about the Black Lives Matter.

01:20:00.000 He came out and he said, you know, I respect what Colin Kaepernick did.

01:20:04.000 I understand where he's coming from.

01:20:05.000 And he made some comments saying, I don't know if my son gets pulled over, what the outcome is going to be.

01:20:09.000 He misused some words, created some words that didn't exist, like conversate, let's be fair.

01:20:14.000 But then he said...

01:20:15.000 But I would stand for the anthem.

01:20:17.000 It's not just about Black Lives Matter.

01:20:20.000 Not all cops are bad.

01:20:21.000 All lives do matter.

01:20:22.000 We need to come together and all lives do matter.

01:20:24.000 And oh my gosh, the outrage at this.

01:20:27.000 Have you even been experiencing some wake from that?

01:20:30.000 It seems like that's shaking the world just saying all lives matter from LeBron James.

01:20:35.000 I didn't see the LeBron comments, to be quite honest with you.

01:20:38.000 But look, that's his opinion.

01:20:40.000 I mean, he has every right, as Colin does, not to stamp the anthem, to give his opinion.

01:20:44.000 And obviously some people don't want to agree with what he said, but at least he's being honest.

01:20:50.000 You know, it's very refreshing to see that.

01:20:51.000 You know, he's the best athlete currently in the world, probably, and best basketball player anyway.

01:20:56.000 And to give that opinion, you know, he's stepping on some people's toes.

01:20:59.000 But at the same time, you've got to respect that.

01:21:01.000 He couldn't have been more diplomatic, is my point.

01:21:04.000 Because if he's being diplomatic about it and people get mad, I mean, you haven't got a shot, right?

01:21:08.000 Big, tall, white Australian. 0.98

01:21:09.000 You're dead in the water before you even speak. 0.98

01:21:11.000 He was saying, hey, I understand Kaepernick.

01:21:14.000 I understand what's happening.

01:21:15.000 I understand that cops, there could be some bad cops.

01:21:17.000 He appealed to kind of the social justice left.

01:21:19.000 And then he just said, but...

01:21:21.000 Not all cops are bad, and we need to come together on this.

01:21:24.000 If he just came out and said, screw Black Lives Matter, I could get the reaction.

01:21:29.000 But this is a reaction from people who are furious that he just didn't go full tilt in with Sean King.

01:21:36.000 And I wonder if you feel like that's common with other NBA players, because a lot of them have jumped on him, or fans, if that's been your experience, or if it's just the press blowing it up.

01:21:47.000 Like you said, I don't really have my opinions not too valid in it because I'm born overseas.

01:21:52.000 I'm a foreigner.

01:21:53.000 I haven't grown up experiencing what a lot of teammates have told me that they experience, so it's hard for me to get into that.

01:22:01.000 But like I said, I just hope we get to a point, not just in America but in Australia, realize that everyone's a human being and hey, if someone's got good qualities, it doesn't matter what uniform they're wearing or what their skin color is.

01:22:14.000 That's how I look at it.

01:22:15.000 If someone's a good person, they're a good person.

01:22:17.000 I think we get in trouble once we start inciting violence with protests and stuff like that.

01:22:24.000 I'm more than respectful of what Colin's doing because he's doing it in a peaceful way.

01:22:29.000 It's causing attention.

01:22:30.000 It's bringing it up in the mainstream media.

01:22:33.000 We're talking about it right now.

01:22:35.000 What I'm against is protests that people get hurt, shot, people's businesses get damaged.

01:22:42.000 And you've been in both cities.

01:22:44.000 You were in Milwaukee for a while, and now Dallas, so you're getting the worst of both ends of that.

01:22:49.000 Yeah, and it's just, you know, there's people that get affected by that kind of stuff and deaths and beatings and all that kind of stuff on both sides.

01:22:56.000 You know, the rebuttal that I'll get is that police are doing that to everyday African Americans that are just minding their own business.

01:23:03.000 So, like I said, when it comes to violence, it's just so disappointing that people's families get taken away from them.

01:23:10.000 Kids are dying.

01:23:12.000 You know, people's businesses, they're losing, and that's I don't think that's accomplishing anything.

01:23:16.000 I think I respect Colin's stance just because at least he's got people talking and he hasn't hurt anybody.

01:23:25.000 Well, I think the NBA Larry Elder was talking about.

01:23:27.000 Wasn't there a guy who was fined in the NBA for not standing for the National Anthem?

01:23:32.000 Yeah, Blackboard.

01:23:32.000 Blackboard.

01:23:34.000 Muhammad Abdul-Raouf, yeah.

01:23:36.000 That was in the mid-90s, I believe.

01:23:37.000 He went through all sorts and then after that season, he basically was a journeyman.

01:23:42.000 He was a very good and very talented player.

01:23:45.000 He did that back in the day, and his career was basically over after that.

01:23:48.000 No one wanted to touch him.

01:23:49.000 That's true.

01:23:50.000 And Metta World Peace punched guys in the face and didn't get as much back as the flash. 0.89

01:23:55.000 He got Patrick Ewing in Metta World... 0.72

01:23:57.000 Metta World Dad or Metta World Peace? 0.53

01:23:57.000 What is it? 0.53

01:23:59.000 What was it?

01:24:00.000 I don't remember.

01:24:00.000 Peace is peace.

01:24:02.000 I was mad about him because he might find me.

01:24:02.000 Peace.

01:24:06.000 Have you ever had any run-ins with him?

01:24:08.000 No, nothing too bad.

01:24:10.000 That's probably one of the few guys that I try to stay away from.

01:24:14.000 We had the same agent for a while, so we kind of had some sort of a bond.

01:24:17.000 I'd like to think where he didn't mess with me too much.

01:24:20.000 I can't imagine a 6'11 guy shies away from too much confrontation.

01:24:24.000 Why? 0.91

01:24:25.000 You think he's just crazy?

01:24:26.000 You think he might go after you? 0.99

01:24:26.000 You got crazy eyes? 0.99

01:24:28.000 A little bit, but in pro sports, there's a lot of bravado and a lot of acting when the cameras and the lights are on, but there's probably a handful, I'd say, in the league that you know you probably shouldn't push their buttons too much.

01:24:41.000 Yeah, I think a lot of that goes...

01:24:43.000 This is the part where Andrew Bogut never comes back in the show.

01:24:46.000 I think it changes with basketball because there isn't the same accountability as in hockey or combat sports.

01:24:51.000 So some guys can hide behind...

01:24:53.000 You don't, because I've watched you play.

01:24:55.000 You're a pretty aggressive player.

01:24:56.000 You stand your ground, put it that way.

01:24:58.000 Whereas in hockey, you punch out a fan or you talk to...

01:25:01.000 You're going to get into a fight and people are going to find out really quickly.

01:25:04.000 You don't hide behind an agent.

01:25:05.000 Yeah, which sometimes is a good thing, you know?

01:25:07.000 Oh, I love it.

01:25:08.000 Yeah.

01:25:09.000 A quick minute in an NBA game where you can kind of just sort things out, but that'll happen every other quarter these days.

01:25:18.000 Nothing ever happens.

01:25:19.000 Look in our league, there's a lot of holding, pushing, and then everyone runs in, and then once someone runs in to hold you back, then all of a sudden you want to run through that guy, and that's just how it goes in our league.

01:25:29.000 I see that a lot, and that is where hockey players...

01:25:29.000 Yeah, I know.

01:25:31.000 I mean, it's not quite the level of soccer, but Canadian hockey players watch it and are like, what is this?

01:25:37.000 Ref, just let them go. 0.68

01:25:39.000 Let the two guys go. 0.94

01:25:40.000 Put them in the penalty box, and you can't go out of bounds.

01:25:43.000 Yeah, because I saw you a couple times, guys slapping you and getting mad just because...

01:25:48.000 I don't know the basketball thing, but he was standing his ground, and I saw a video.

01:25:52.000 Some guy reached out and smacked me.

01:25:52.000 I don't know what it was.

01:25:53.000 Who was that?

01:25:55.000 I don't know.

01:25:55.000 It's been a long list.

01:25:58.000 I'll be the first to tell you that.

01:25:59.000 I play physical brand of basketball, but I'm not going to take a step back, as most guys want in our league.

01:26:04.000 But you just need to be careful that it doesn't end up into a boxing match.

01:26:07.000 If they start allowing too much, all of a sudden there was times where some of the NBA games in the 90s spilled over into the front row, and that's what the NBA obviously tries to avoid.

01:26:16.000 All right, we'll hold it, and we will talk more about this after.

01:26:18.000 Andrew Bogut, don't piss him off.

01:26:20.000 Stay tuned.

01:26:21.000 Stay tuned.

01:26:22.000 For breaking news on Louder with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson.

01:26:44.000 We take you now live to a press conference where NBA's own LeBron James is discussing the current state of police enforcement, race relations, and Black Lives Matter.

01:26:58.000 Yeah, we love you, LeBron!

01:26:59.000 You're the best ever!

01:27:00.000 I love you!

01:27:01.000 I love you so much, LeBron!

01:27:04.000 I want to get your name tattooed! 0.99

01:27:07.000 Fight my baby! 1.00

01:27:08.000 Well, for sure, I recognize the problems with the policing community and people like my son.

01:27:14.000 If they get pulled over, I'm not sure, you know, if that's going to go down in a negative way.

01:27:21.000 That's right!

01:27:21.000 Black Lives Matter!

01:27:23.000 So I understand and respect what Colin Kaepernick is doing.

01:27:23.000 But the police!

01:27:28.000 I will myself always stand for the national anthem.

01:27:32.000 And I do think it's important to conversate To continue to conversate about this discussion and understand it's not just about black or white or race.

01:27:44.000 Really, all lives matter. 0.98

01:27:49.000 Traitor! 1.00

01:27:49.000 Who do you care about Black Lives? 1.00

01:27:50.000 You trash! 1.00

01:27:51.000 You trash! 1.00

01:27:52.000 MJ will bury you! 1.00

01:27:53.000 I have a question.

01:27:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:55.000 Can I call him a coon? 1.00

01:27:57.000 Or...

01:27:57.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:27:58.000 Okay, that's just you.

01:27:59.000 Okay, that's fine.

01:28:00.000 That's just you. 1.00

01:28:00.000 You, you filthy! 1.00

01:28:02.000 Can I say Negro? 1.00

01:28:03.000 Better not. 1.00

01:28:04.000 You traitorous spook! 1.00

01:28:04.000 Okay, right, right. 1.00

01:28:06.000 Oh, that was too much.

01:28:07.000 Black Lives Matter!

01:28:09.000 Black Lives Matter!

01:28:10.000 A quick, and no doubt ugly, turn of events.

01:28:14.000 I'll keep you abreast as this story unfolds.

01:28:17.000 It's Louder with Louder.

01:28:19.000 I'm Perry Betheson.

01:28:21.000 I don't want nobody.

01:28:42.000 I don't want nobody.

01:28:44.000 You don't ever need.

01:28:46.000 You got that right.

01:28:47.000 New bump that comes to us from Pogo, remix of The Fresh Prince.

01:28:51.000 You're about that age.

01:28:52.000 Were you a fan of The Fresh Prince?

01:28:53.000 Huge fan, man.

01:28:54.000 Huge fan.

01:28:55.000 I thought that was an original song right there.

01:28:57.000 I might be able to give you a little dance, but I used to run home from school.

01:29:00.000 Australia would finish at 3.30.

01:29:01.000 I used to run home to catch it at 4 o'clock every day on weekdays.

01:29:05.000 There you go, when it was in syndication.

01:29:05.000 It was a great show.

01:29:07.000 I was talking about that growing up.

01:29:09.000 How old are you, Andrew?

01:29:10.000 I am almost 32.

01:29:12.000 Okay, so there you go.

01:29:12.000 We're the same generation growing up.

01:29:14.000 And this tells you that it goes across all cultural lines.

01:29:17.000 You know, Fresh Prince was one of the biggest shows, and Family Matters.

01:29:20.000 And these were two black families.

01:29:22.000 One dad was a judge, and one dad was a cop.

01:29:25.000 And we just watched it.

01:29:26.000 We didn't even really think about it back then.

01:29:28.000 And it seems like the same thing in Australia.

01:29:29.000 This wasn't a black person show.

01:29:30.000 It was just the most popular show, right?

01:29:33.000 People loved it.

01:29:34.000 It turned Will Smith into the most popular film actor of all time.

01:29:39.000 Like you talked about, nowadays, that almost doesn't happen.

01:29:42.000 It's like you have the BET, you have the black programming, the TBS, and then this divide.

01:29:47.000 Do you feel like now, in that case, it's really a shifting world for young millennials because of the social justice outrage?

01:29:54.000 It's divided them?

01:29:55.000 Yeah, I think the younger kids, I think, all feel like they need a bigger side.

01:30:01.000 Whether you're liberal or Republican or whatever it is, and that causes some problems, definitely.

01:30:08.000 But As a kid growing up in Australia, I didn't think twice that the show was hilarious.

01:30:14.000 I'm not going to lie, I had some Wu-Tang gear and some of that kind of gear back in the day.

01:30:21.000 Did you bring the ruckus?

01:30:22.000 I did bring the ruckus.

01:30:23.000 I loved it.

01:30:27.000 Basketball culture, obviously, is hugely immersed by hip-hop and rap.

01:30:32.000 I loved it.

01:30:34.000 It was just part of growing up.

01:30:36.000 I didn't think twice about race, religion, or creed when it came to that stuff.

01:30:40.000 If something was good and I liked it, I was playing the tracks and watching the videos, and Prince of Bel-Air was number one on the list.

01:30:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:30:48.000 Jared, this is a nice man.

01:30:51.000 I've had this on the whole time.

01:30:52.000 Stop it.

01:30:53.000 Sorry, Andrew.

01:30:54.000 Andrew, he's from...

01:30:55.000 That's true.

01:30:56.000 It's all they have in Cleveland.

01:30:57.000 You have to understand this.

01:30:58.000 He's clinging to a life raft here, so don't take it personally.

01:31:02.000 There was another Aussie on the team, and he got a ring, so...

01:31:05.000 That's true.

01:31:06.000 Oh, Cleveland, it's a horrible place.

01:31:09.000 You live in...

01:31:10.000 All your sponsors to...

01:31:10.000 That's sweet.

01:31:12.000 So you shouldn't lose all your sponsors for triggering me to my safe space.

01:31:16.000 Yeah.

01:31:17.000 This is not a safe space for him.

01:31:17.000 Yes, exactly.

01:31:20.000 He's six foot eleven.

01:31:25.000 Yeah, but he's really far away.

01:31:27.000 Give me seven foot at least.

01:31:29.000 Okay, he's seven foot.

01:31:31.000 Don't piss him off.

01:31:33.000 LeBron's not here to help you.

01:31:34.000 It's not the middle finger.

01:31:35.000 This is number one.

01:31:39.000 Okay, we're going to have to mute that.

01:31:40.000 So you're going to get that with the FCC so people don't know where we are.

01:31:45.000 It's funny we talk about that with – I won't get into the meta-world peace thing.

01:31:48.000 But you mentioned that Wu-Tang – I was raised in Canada.

01:31:51.000 I was born in Detroit, another terrible town, raised in Canada. 1.00

01:31:53.000 And I listened to Wu-Tang when my parents found out.

01:31:56.000 They were horrified.

01:31:57.000 Watch Fresh Prince.

01:31:58.000 The thing is now, like you said, kids should be able to, but you can't.

01:32:01.000 You see kids now, you see stories where kids get in trouble for listening to hip-hop at school because it's cultural appropriation.

01:32:08.000 Or if they have Japanese food day in the cafeteria, all of a sudden there's a lawsuit because that's considered culturally insensitive.

01:32:14.000 I mean, that's the social justice warrior thing.

01:32:16.000 I don't think you can have just kids enjoy Fresh Prince and eat lo mein because they like it.

01:32:21.000 Someone's gonna get offended.

01:32:23.000 Yeah, and that's what we've got to be careful, I think, as a society, because it's never going to stop.

01:32:28.000 Melbourne is one of the most multicultural cities in the world.

01:32:30.000 My high school alone had almost 100 different nationalities.

01:32:34.000 Think about that.

01:32:35.000 And it was so cool talking to different kids and how they grew up with their families, the food.

01:32:42.000 What they did on the weekends, what clubs they were aligned to on the weekends and what they did in their spare time.

01:32:48.000 You just learn so much from that.

01:32:49.000 You get to experience so much culture and it's actually enriching.

01:32:52.000 That's why a lot of people travel the world.

01:32:54.000 I don't understand this whole appropriation thing.

01:32:59.000 It's always done in a good positive way.

01:33:02.000 What's the problem with it?

01:33:03.000 I think experiencing other cultures is a part of everyday life and gives you some life values that you can't pay for in school or university.

01:33:12.000 I think it's just never going to end with the political correctness stuff.

01:33:17.000 It's just so frustrating.

01:33:18.000 I know.

01:33:19.000 If I could interject there, I just wanted to pick his brain.

01:33:22.000 What's his thoughts on that?

01:33:25.000 What's that?

01:33:26.000 Hashtag LeBron Lives Matter.

01:33:27.000 Stop it with the fanboying, not Gay Jared. 0.76

01:33:31.000 He's a nice guest.

01:33:32.000 He took the time to do this.

01:33:33.000 I know, but these are the important issues that are...

01:33:35.000 I've never met a bigger fan than him of LeBron, just so you know, Andrew.

01:33:39.000 It's sad.

01:33:42.000 They got their ring.

01:33:43.000 They did a great job.

01:33:44.000 He had a great year.

01:33:46.000 He might be a Dan Wagon fan if he's following LeBron though, because he's the best player in the world.

01:33:51.000 Yeah, what are you doing?

01:33:55.000 I have a ringtone picture for you.

01:33:58.000 No one's harsh.

01:33:59.000 That's a low blow.

01:34:00.000 That's a really low blow, not Kidjured.

01:34:02.000 Stop it, not Kidjured.

01:34:03.000 That is safe space stuff right there.

01:34:04.000 We need to...

01:34:05.000 This guy, you have some serious nerve.

01:34:07.000 I'll tell you what, when we are going to do the show on the road at some point, hashtag NeverDaily though, when we go to Dallas, I will personally give you his hotel room number.

01:34:16.000 And you can do with it.

01:34:17.000 You can send Metta World Peace if you don't want the legal liability. 0.92

01:34:20.000 He's earned it.

01:34:21.000 He's retired now, too, so he might be out for it. 0.99

01:34:23.000 Well, he's looking for work, and I think someone would pay a pretty penny to watch this guy get his ass kicked. 0.99

01:34:27.000 Yeah, it's funny, you know, you talk about Melbourne that way. 0.99

01:34:30.000 It really is, I think now it's at the point where you can't even appreciate different cultures, and this is where, you know, the social justice, leftism, the political...

01:34:37.000 You can't appreciate other cultures unless you say, also, I recognize X, Y, and Z horrible things that have happened to this culture at the hands of, you know, white people. 0.94

01:34:46.000 And it really drives a wedge between people just wanting to be human beings, ironically for people who claim to be tolerant.

01:34:55.000 Look, man, I mean, my whole family's from Croatia, from as far back as we can go.

01:35:00.000 There was a Balkan war in 1993, which was one of the biggest bloodbaths of the last 30, 40 years.

01:35:08.000 You know, so it was Serbia versus Croatia predominantly.

01:35:11.000 I've got really good friends that are Serbian.

01:35:13.000 Yeah.

01:35:14.000 This was only two decades because of throwing bombs at each other from our families.

01:35:18.000 But my friend that is Serbian is a good person.

01:35:20.000 I take flack from that from some Croatian people, but so be it. 1.00

01:35:25.000 If he's a good person, I'm going to do anything for him.

01:35:30.000 It comes back to experiencing other cultures.

01:35:32.000 I'm going to experience other cultures.

01:35:34.000 I don't care what people say.

01:35:35.000 If they think that's wrong, great.

01:35:37.000 I thought it was wrong, but I'm still going to experience other cultures.

01:35:40.000 You need to check your Croatian privilege there, Bogut. 0.75

01:35:42.000 You can say that.

01:35:44.000 But you don't realize that Croatians have had it. 0.99

01:35:46.000 They've been living high in the hog for far too long.

01:35:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:50.000 Have you been out of the hog?

01:35:51.000 Well, just look at the NBA. It's crawling with Croatians. 1.00

01:35:55.000 At Andrew Bogut, thank you so much for being with us, sir.

01:35:58.000 And hold on one moment, we'll talk to you off-air during the commercial break.

01:36:02.000 Louder with Crowder, Andrew Bogut.

01:36:03.000 That just happened.

01:36:05.000 Mostly.

01:36:06.000 And now phone calls between Sean Hannity and Donald Trump.

01:36:22.000 And now phone calls between Sean Hannity and Donald Trump.

01:36:35.000 Hello?

01:36:36.000 Mr.

01:36:37.000 Trump, it's Sean Hannity, and you are a great American, sir.

01:36:40.000 Oh, hey, Sean.

01:36:41.000 Okay, thanks for calling.

01:36:43.000 I appreciate it.

01:36:44.000 And, Donald, I want to tell you that you hit the nail right on the head with what you said at the debate.

01:36:48.000 You were just, as always, right on the mark.

01:36:53.000 Okay, well, frankly, I'm always on the mark.

01:36:56.000 I know I'm on the mark, but I want to know, what do you think I'm on the mark?

01:36:59.000 What are you talking about?

01:37:00.000 Well, you were right in that nobody wants to call me anymore.

01:37:05.000 Oh, okay, sure.

01:37:06.000 That's not true.

01:37:07.000 Okay, you're a great American.

01:37:08.000 We're both great Americans.

01:37:09.000 Everyone wants to call you, okay?

01:37:11.000 It was politics.

01:37:12.000 I'll call you all the time.

01:37:13.000 Oh, I know you will, Trump.

01:37:14.000 I'm talking about the rest of the...

01:37:18.000 Journalists.

01:37:21.000 Um, you tweeted it out.

01:37:42.000 No, it was an at reply.

01:37:45.000 Okay, short, I gotta go.

01:37:46.000 Get Anthony Weiner on the phone.

01:37:48.000 Glad to be back.

01:38:15.000 We are terrestrially in the third hour.

01:38:17.000 Third hour.

01:38:18.000 Christopher Titus coming up at the bottom of the hour there.

01:38:22.000 And we have Donald Trump coming on relatively...

01:38:25.000 What's that?

01:38:29.000 I thought the...

01:38:30.000 The trash is supposed to come on Wednesdays.

01:38:34.000 No, that's Universe.

01:38:36.000 Oh.

01:38:37.000 Yeah.

01:38:38.000 Safety precautions and all.

01:38:39.000 Safety first.

01:38:39.000 You can never be too careful with the safety.

01:38:42.000 No.

01:38:44.000 Okay, well, let's just get right into it, I guess, pretty soon here.

01:38:47.000 Hold on, let me bring up so I have everything ready.

01:38:49.000 Do we have...

01:38:50.000 We're connecting.

01:38:50.000 We're connecting here.

01:38:51.000 Do we have Mr.

01:38:52.000 Mr.

01:38:52.000 Trump?

01:38:52.000 Trump, are you there?

01:38:55.000 He's not connected yet.

01:38:56.000 He's not connected yet?

01:38:57.000 No.

01:38:58.000 All right, let me know when he's connected.

01:38:59.000 Let's buy some time here.

01:39:01.000 All right, let me know when he's connected.

01:39:02.000 We're always excited, obviously, to have Donald Trump on.

01:39:04.000 Oh, there he is.

01:39:04.000 Mr.

01:39:05.000 Mr.

01:39:05.000 Trump?

01:39:06.000 Of course, Crowder.

01:39:07.000 I wouldn't miss it.

01:39:08.000 I've got to tell you.

01:39:09.000 Well, listen, I'm very glad.

01:39:11.000 Let's get right into it.

01:39:12.000 How do you think you performed this week at the debate?

01:39:15.000 Well, listen, okay, I can't tell you myself, but everyone else, okay, everyone else they're telling me, they say, you did such a tremendous job.

01:39:22.000 People, they frankly, they can't believe what a tremendous job I did.

01:39:25.000 It's not what I would say, it's what they're telling me.

01:39:28.000 It's unbelievable.

01:39:29.000 So then, are you saying that you disagree with the somewhat general consensus that Hillary had a stronger showing?

01:39:34.000 Excuse me, excuse me, okay, that's not nice.

01:39:38.000 When you say that, I don't like it when people say, not nice things, and that's not true.

01:39:45.000 Okay, if you look at the polls, and I'm ahead of all the polls...

01:39:48.000 Which polls?

01:39:49.000 www.drudgereport.com, okay?

01:39:53.000 And that's the best site.

01:39:55.000 They do, frankly, a fantastic...

01:39:56.000 It's a good site.

01:39:57.000 The job they do on the cyber at Drudge is unbelievable.

01:40:00.000 Fantastic site.

01:40:03.000 Breitbart.com, CNBC.com.

01:40:05.000 Mr.

01:40:05.000 Trump, those are hardly scientific polls.

01:40:07.000 There will obviously be some bias with the readers of sites that tend to lean...

01:40:11.000 Excuse me.

01:40:12.000 Okay, all of them.

01:40:13.000 Every poll.

01:40:14.000 Okay, every single poll.

01:40:15.000 Frankly, I've got to tell you, they have me winning tremendously.

01:40:17.000 Well, no.

01:40:18.000 Some of the more scientific polls, or the actual focus groups, had you performing by a significant margin more poorly.

01:40:25.000 Okay, those are rigged.

01:40:27.000 The polls are rigged.

01:40:29.000 Never believe the polls.

01:40:30.000 Okay, but you just said that people should...

01:40:32.000 Also, okay, and I didn't want to say this.

01:40:34.000 I didn't, you know, frankly, maybe I should say this.

01:40:37.000 I'm not going to say this.

01:40:38.000 Then don't say it.

01:40:38.000 My microphone was rigged.

01:40:40.000 Your microphone was rigged?

01:40:42.000 Yes.

01:40:43.000 It was so rigged, you'll never believe.

01:40:45.000 It was crackling horrendously.

01:40:47.000 Okay, you've never heard crackling like this, frankly.

01:40:49.000 I gotta tell you.

01:40:50.000 So you think the crackling of the microphone had an impact?

01:40:53.000 Excuse me.

01:40:54.000 I wasn't finished, okay?

01:40:55.000 And I probably shouldn't say this.

01:40:58.000 Then don't.

01:40:59.000 But they couldn't hear me in the back of the room with the mic.

01:41:01.000 I was talking, they couldn't hear me at all.

01:41:03.000 Well, I mean, that can sound like foul play.

01:41:05.000 I'm not sure how that would really affect people watching on television if you're talking about...

01:41:10.000 Excuse me, okay?

01:41:12.000 I'm still not finished, and I probably...

01:41:14.000 Sorry.

01:41:14.000 You know what?

01:41:16.000 I won't say it.

01:41:16.000 Okay, then don't.

01:41:17.000 I was going to say it, but I said that Trump...

01:41:20.000 You shouldn't say it.

01:41:21.000 Don't say it.

01:41:21.000 There was anthrax on my microphone.

01:41:24.000 Anthrax.

01:41:24.000 Anthrax?

01:41:25.000 Yes.

01:41:26.000 A very light, dusting, but noticeable of anthrax.

01:41:30.000 Can you believe it?

01:41:31.000 Unreal.

01:41:31.000 I don't know that I can believe that.

01:41:33.000 I'm not sure that I... But all of this, okay?

01:41:35.000 The rig poles, the rig microphone, the light dusting of anthrax, it's all designed to take away attention from the fact that Hillary Clinton, okay?

01:41:43.000 Listen.

01:41:44.000 Why are we talking...

01:41:44.000 Hillary Clinton wants to ship all of our jobs.

01:41:48.000 Well, you know, you had a strong showing when you were talking about jobs and trade.

01:41:51.000 So which countries specifically are you...

01:41:52.000 Let's go with that.

01:41:53.000 Are you talking about?

01:41:55.000 China. 0.98

01:41:56.000 Okay, we're getting killed at the border. 0.99

01:41:58.000 We're getting killed at the China. 0.89

01:42:00.000 Well, China's a problem for sure, but what other countries are concerned?

01:42:03.000 I'd like to get into that.

01:42:04.000 They're killing us, Stephen.

01:42:06.000 You never believed the China.

01:42:07.000 They're all laughing at us because we don't have enough stamina.

01:42:11.000 Okay, and China has better stamina. 0.98

01:42:13.000 And it's terrible.

01:42:14.000 It's terrible what they're doing.

01:42:15.000 The China... 0.96

01:42:17.000 Well, I can definitely see how China is a problem, Mr. 1.00

01:42:19.000 But, you know, we need to definitely...

01:42:19.000 Trump.

01:42:20.000 Excuse me.

01:42:21.000 Okay, even that, okay?

01:42:23.000 That China is distracting from the real issues that Americans... 0.77

01:42:26.000 Frankly, they're concerned.

01:42:27.000 They tell me they're concerned.

01:42:29.000 They're scared.

01:42:30.000 Well, good.

01:42:31.000 Like, what issues?

01:42:31.000 Let's do that.

01:42:32.000 Okay, frankly, have you seen how plump Miss Universe is lately? 1.00

01:42:36.000 Okay, no, Mr.

01:42:37.000 Let's just...

01:42:37.000 Trump.

01:42:38.000 Well, actually, hold on.

01:42:38.000 Before we let you go, Alec Baldwin is set to play you on SNL. What do you think about Alec Baldwin?

01:42:42.000 Yeah, he should lose some weight.

01:42:42.000 Have you heard that?

01:42:45.000 Okay, let's get rid of Mr.

01:42:46.000 Trump.

01:42:47.000 I don't listen.

01:42:48.000 I think the guy is better than Hillary, but we have to be careful with the programming.

01:42:52.000 We have to be prudent.

01:42:54.000 We do.

01:42:54.000 He seems surly.

01:42:56.000 He does.

01:42:57.000 A little more than usual, if you can believe it.

01:42:58.000 He's usually more chipper.

01:43:00.000 A little more gentlemanly than that.

01:43:02.000 I'm not necessarily thrilled with how that went.

01:43:04.000 What do you think about Alec Baldwin playing the old Trump, though?

01:43:07.000 I think it's so clear with the entertainment industry now, like we talked about this, they used to say, you know, vote or die!

01:43:13.000 I know people are going to get mad that I do the accent.

01:43:16.000 And they were saying, we don't care about who you vote for.

01:43:18.000 Just get out and vote.

01:43:19.000 Now they're saying, vote Hillary for the love of God!

01:43:22.000 Alec Baldwin, this is a guy who endorsed Anthony Weiner, who considered running for office.

01:43:26.000 This is a guy who is a blatant, hardcore leftist, has threatened to move to Canada.

01:43:30.000 I mean, unless you're wearing sandals, you can't count.

01:43:37.000 And they're bringing him in specifically to play Trump.

01:43:39.000 That's not comedy at that point.

01:43:40.000 That's agenda comedy.

01:43:41.000 Yeah.

01:43:41.000 Like Norm Macdonald has talked about.

01:43:43.000 And agenda comedy can be funny.

01:43:45.000 I thought Jon Stewart was funny with it.

01:43:46.000 I think Alec Baldwin's a talented guy.

01:43:47.000 He's one of the best.

01:43:49.000 He's one of the best.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 But they're bringing him in not because he's the best Trump.

01:43:54.000 They're bringing him in because it's a sting.

01:43:57.000 He's got a couple opinions.

01:43:59.000 He's got some opinions, and they think it'll be a sting with Donald Trump.

01:44:01.000 Maybe some syllables to share.

01:44:02.000 Speaking of sting, this is something that's pretty important.

01:44:04.000 We were talking about this.

01:44:05.000 We talked last week about how Barack Obama went in front of the UN to say that the United States needed to give up some of its rights, needed to give up some of its freedoms in order for the greater good, which is people misuse the term globalist a lot, or people just throw it out there.

01:44:17.000 It's like, well, I don't like where Trump lined up on the no fly, no buy.

01:44:20.000 You're a globalist!

01:44:22.000 No, that's not.

01:44:23.000 But this is an actual case, if you look at the UN. One of the biggest examples, I will harp on it until the day I die, the Kyoto Protocol.

01:44:29.000 That is probably the worst.

01:44:31.000 Obviously, the legislation right now with the internet that Ted Cruz is fighting and Donald Trump got in and fought with Ted Cruz.

01:44:36.000 I'm really happy to see both of them coming together on that.

01:44:39.000 So we've talked about the U.N. quite a bit.

01:44:41.000 Here is...

01:44:42.000 I don't know her name, so forgive me, and she's very hard to understand.

01:44:45.000 Yeah, good luck.

01:44:46.000 Here is the U.N., what happened this week.

01:44:48.000 They were talking about police brutality in the United States and then linked it to demanding that the United States pay reparations.

01:44:56.000 Try and follow it, but it's okay if you don't.

01:44:59.000 Because obviously.

01:45:00.000 ...past injustice and crimes against African Americans No need to be addressed with reparatory justice.

01:45:08.000 The Working Group urges Congress to expedite the passing of all pending criminal justice reform bills, including the Add Russian Profiling Act, the Second Change Reauthorization Act,

01:45:24.000 and welcomes the bipartisan support for the Sentencing Reform and Correction Act, with, among other things, proposed To drastically reduce the use of mandatory minimum sentencing.

01:45:38.000 Okay.

01:45:40.000 If it was hard for you to understand, don't worry.

01:45:43.000 It's even harder to process when you know what she says.

01:45:46.000 What hippie hoarder house did it dig her out of? 1.00

01:45:49.000 I don't know.

01:45:50.000 I could smell the marijuana from here.

01:45:52.000 But I bet you'll find a few cats.

01:45:53.000 Yes.

01:45:55.000 You'll find cats...

01:45:56.000 Stolen library books.

01:45:57.000 You'll find cats flattened like pennies on a railroad track.

01:46:00.000 This...

01:46:01.000 She stacked boxes on top of me, then demanded reparations. 1.00

01:46:05.000 This is my life!

01:46:09.000 Hashtags!

01:46:09.000 So they're demanding that the United States...

01:46:12.000 First, I don't think the United States should be a member of the UN. I really don't think so.

01:46:15.000 I don't...

01:46:16.000 Why?

01:46:17.000 If someone can tweet me when you listen to the podcast, wherever you are, what does the United States gain from being a part of the UN? NATO, I understand the UN. It's gotten to the point now where there's no use for them.

01:46:29.000 And why does the UN get to decide what the United States does?

01:46:33.000 They want to talk about...

01:46:34.000 And here's the thing, too.

01:46:34.000 It just shows the UN can be politicized.

01:46:36.000 It's not true.

01:46:37.000 More black men are not being targeted by police officers.

01:46:41.000 It's not true that there is systemic racism in law enforcement in the United States.

01:46:44.000 White people are more likely to be shot by police if they've committed a crime or there's an altercation.

01:46:48.000 We've covered this, so it's not even factually accurate.

01:46:51.000 But even if that were the case, where does the UN get off thinking they can tell the United States that you need to pay reparations through all these social programs?

01:46:59.000 And where are they, you know, where there's slavery still going on in African nations, in the Middle East?

01:47:05.000 Why aren't they talking about that? 0.99

01:47:07.000 They're still throwing gay people off of rooftops. 1.00

01:47:09.000 You have a lisp, you're going for a flight. 0.99

01:47:13.000 Why aren't they demanding reparations from the African slave traders who stole them and sold them into slavery? 0.67

01:47:21.000 I'm not condoning slavery at all, whatsoever.

01:47:24.000 The United States bought slaves from African countries and African slave traders, multiple African countries, or they stole them from rice paddies.

01:47:33.000 I mean...

01:47:34.000 I did this at a video at Berkeley where they were teaching kids about slavery.

01:47:38.000 And I said, well, hold on, I have a question.

01:47:39.000 They said, you know, when the Americans stole these slaves from the old world and brought them into the new world.

01:47:44.000 And I said, well, how many of these slaves, question professor, how many of these slaves were actually sold into slavery?

01:47:49.000 They were actually made slaves in the old world.

01:47:51.000 She said, that's a good question and I don't know the answer to it.

01:47:53.000 She was teaching the class on slavery.

01:47:56.000 That guy who was there in Barack Obama when he first started the race wars, the beer summit, that professor, black guy with the fro, I forgot his name, he was the one who came out, and I've written about this, I'll find it hopefully after the break, and said about 90-something percent.

01:48:09.000 The lowest figure is 70-something percent.

01:48:11.000 The vast majority of slaves were sold into slavery in the United States.

01:48:15.000 Now, horrible, obviously.

01:48:17.000 Thank God we ended slavery.

01:48:19.000 Thank God we, long before many other countries, that's still...

01:48:22.000 Still use slavery, right?

01:48:24.000 The U.N. doesn't have a whole lot to say about that.

01:48:26.000 Certainly not the grandstanding you see here.

01:48:28.000 But if they're going to demand reparations, hint, we're not going to do it, Mrs.

01:48:32.000 U.N., crazy cat lady, why not sit there and grandstand and demand the African slave traders give that back? 1.00

01:48:40.000 This just goes to show you, when people say, oh, science, science is foolproof. 0.94

01:48:45.000 No.

01:48:46.000 Science, the theory is, of course, but humans...

01:48:50.000 We're not foolproof.

01:48:50.000 Human error is still a factor in science.

01:48:52.000 When people say, well, international law, listen, we're talking about law here.

01:48:55.000 This came from the UN. It doesn't matter.

01:48:57.000 There are still people in the UN. There are crazy cat ladies like this. 1.00

01:49:02.000 Is that a pashmina?

01:49:03.000 What do you call that?

01:49:04.000 I don't know.

01:49:05.000 Maybe it's cashmere.

01:49:06.000 Cashmere?

01:49:07.000 George, I want the cashmere. 0.83

01:49:10.000 A crazy person like this who was entirely ill-informed on the issue of law enforcement, she's read a Black Lives Matter pamphlet that was handed to her by Sean King, slipped in her PO box, and then she's going to sit before some committee, some trumped-up silly committee, international committee, and tell the United States that, hey, even though you had the bloodiest war, one of the bloodiest wars in modern history to end slavery, even though other countries... 0.90

01:49:36.000 You need to create socialized health care to make up for your racism. 0.97

01:49:41.000 It's silly talk.

01:49:42.000 We'll be back talking about charter schools, I think.

01:49:45.000 Hey, Jared, what are you doing? 0.88

01:49:57.000 Shooting bad guys. 0.95

01:49:59.000 By AR-15.

01:49:59.000 With what?

01:50:00.000 Where'd you get it?

01:50:01.000 AR-15.com.

01:50:03.000 Enunciate it more clearly so our audience can hear.

01:50:06.000 AR-15.com.

01:50:07.000 That's better.

01:50:09.000 They sell guns now?

01:50:10.000 Yeah, they do.

01:50:11.000 Are they any good?

01:50:12.000 They're the best.

01:50:13.000 Where from?

01:50:14.000 AR-15.com.

01:50:15.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:50:16.000 You really make that sound?

01:50:16.000 Kaboom!

01:50:18.000 Didn't have the budget for sound effects.

01:50:19.000 Kaboom! 0.99

01:50:21.000 I don't know if you saw that.

01:50:39.000 The NeverDaily hashtag, but I think someone heard about the studio.

01:50:45.000 How did they do that?

01:50:48.000 That's the thing.

01:50:48.000 I don't know.

01:50:49.000 I need to find out.

01:50:49.000 I think it could be...

01:50:50.000 I think it could be Brody.

01:50:53.000 So we've got to make sure we just let everyone know to keep a tight lid on it until early November at least.

01:50:59.000 Yeah, we should...

01:51:01.000 We'll talk with him.

01:51:04.000 Once we make the two golden ticket hires, I think I know who they're going to be.

01:51:09.000 Then we can let the rest of the team know when they can start talking about the daily stuff.

01:51:15.000 Have a big time.

01:51:18.000 Are we coming back?

01:51:20.000 Yeah, that's us.

01:51:21.000 If you feel like giving up, baby, well, don't turn around.

01:51:30.000 Wow!

01:51:34.000 Wow!

01:51:35.000 Oh, yeah!

01:51:48.000 Wow!

01:51:49.000 Wow!

01:51:53.000 That was Nakei Jared's choice for a song.

01:51:59.000 It wasn't my choice, but it's always to wake people up as we go toward the older portion of the program.

01:51:59.000 That's fantastic.

01:52:05.000 As we get to the version where people are tired, as we get to the version where people are slowly fading.

01:52:12.000 It's going to be a great program when we go never to delay.

01:52:15.000 It is fleeting, and madness tanks it tall.

01:52:18.000 Speaking of madness, Christopher Titus will be on after the break.

01:52:20.000 Yep.

01:52:22.000 And speaking of madness also, Elizabeth Warren came out against raising the cap on charter schools in Massachusetts. 1.00

01:52:28.000 I have it up here on my screen.

01:52:32.000 So this is something we were going to do a rebuttal with John Oliver, kind of like we just did with...

01:52:38.000 Adam Conover.

01:52:39.000 Yeah.

01:52:40.000 But his stuff is always so long.

01:52:42.000 I think he's funny.

01:52:43.000 And I think sometimes he makes some good points.

01:52:44.000 But his thing on charter schools, again, it's just based on this...

01:52:48.000 It's one of those things that's hard to argue because of the bait and switch they do.

01:52:53.000 It's tough to kind of nail them down.

01:52:55.000 So Elizabeth Warren is against charter schools. 0.99

01:52:58.000 And the reason for it is because they really play on people's emotions.

01:53:02.000 And they use arguments that aren't true and don't matter.

01:53:06.000 If it sounds a little...

01:53:07.000 Let me explain it to you.

01:53:08.000 There is no valid argument.

01:53:11.000 None against school choice or charter schools in the United States anymore.

01:53:16.000 There's none.

01:53:16.000 You look at very, very liberal filmmakers.

01:53:19.000 Was it Waiting for Superman?

01:53:20.000 What was that movie that talked about teachers' unions?

01:53:23.000 This is not a conservative filmmaker.

01:53:25.000 Even people on the left have acknowledged that the public schooling system has failed in the United States.

01:53:30.000 Yeah, it's absolutely awful.

01:53:32.000 And it hurts the most poor among us.

01:53:34.000 Because they don't have a choice with public schools.

01:53:36.000 There is not one valid argument against school choice or charter schools.

01:53:40.000 It is entirely supported by big teachers unions and their DNC cronies.

01:53:44.000 And this idea, oh, the poor teachers union, no one goes into teaching for the money.

01:53:48.000 Actually, yes, they do.

01:53:49.000 Many people go into public education for decent money and incredible benefits and very little accountability.

01:53:55.000 Long vacations.

01:53:56.000 Yes.

01:53:57.000 It is not a system that filters out people who shouldn't be doing the job.

01:54:00.000 There are some great teachers, but there are some absolutely horrible ones.

01:54:04.000 So Elizabeth Warren, her argument, and any article I wrote about it at louderwithcrowder.com, their main complaint is that charter schools hurt, but they hurt local public schools.

01:54:15.000 Exactly.

01:54:18.000 They should be hurt, local public schools. 0.98

01:54:20.000 These schools, charter schools, were created to take kids out of those crappy schools. 0.64

01:54:25.000 So of course it's going to hurt the crappy public schools.

01:54:27.000 The only way these charter schools can take kids out of those crappy public schools, say it with me now, is if they provide better schooling.

01:54:36.000 The only way the public schools are hurt is if there is an alternative school, a choice, that's better.

01:54:44.000 So are we concerned about the school being hurt?

01:54:46.000 Are we concerned about the teachers' union being hurt?

01:54:48.000 Are we concerned about the kids' welfare and their education?

01:54:50.000 So that's why it's hard to argue, because people go, oh, schools are hurt.

01:54:54.000 Oh, no!

01:54:54.000 And they think the schools are hurt, therefore the kids are going to be hurt, the teachers are going to be hurt.

01:54:57.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:54:58.000 And this can't be just seen on a chart or a fact sheet.

01:55:01.000 The school is hurt, this school, so the child can benefit.

01:55:06.000 But to you, if we just give them some more money, they'll do better.

01:55:08.000 Right, if we just give them more money, like in Detroit.

01:55:13.000 Here's something they argue, too.

01:55:14.000 That's a good argument.

01:55:15.000 They argue that, well, if these charter schools fail, which sometimes happens with charter schools, that's what John Oliver was talking about, they turn abysmal and they close up shop.

01:55:24.000 That's true.

01:55:26.000 And those kids can go back to the public school.

01:55:49.000 But let's say that's true.

01:55:50.000 They're abysmal and the charter schools closes up shop.

01:55:52.000 Let's go down through all of these arguments.

01:55:53.000 That's true.

01:55:54.000 Meanwhile, public schools are almost guaranteed to fail and be just as bad as these charter schools.

01:56:00.000 But instead of closing up shop, they fire nobody and continue to be supported by taxpayers with no better options for schooling.

01:56:08.000 So what's better?

01:56:09.000 A bad charter school?

01:56:10.000 The consequences? 0.95

01:56:11.000 It closes and kids go back to the crappy public school? 0.89

01:56:14.000 Or just starting off with the crappy public school?

01:56:17.000 It can never close where teachers can never be fired.

01:56:20.000 They complain that these charter schools are run as businesses, therefore unaccountable to their community.

01:56:24.000 Again, these are feel arguments that they make.

01:56:26.000 So it's hard to sort of, it's like grabbing a bar of soap.

01:56:29.000 They're unaccountable to their community because they're only in it for a profit motive.

01:56:33.000 What?

01:56:34.000 They're just as accountable as any other school and then some.

01:56:38.000 Because unlike public schools, charter schools, if they don't perform, can go under.

01:56:45.000 So their accountability is that it's financially imperative for them to benefit their community, or else they cease to exist.

01:56:52.000 They're running it like a business.

01:56:54.000 The only way a business gets to stay in business is if they provide the service that's expected of them.

01:57:00.000 Charter schools are required.

01:57:02.000 They are beholden to providing a better educational experience than the public schools, Or they cease to exist.

01:57:09.000 And the business owner, the people who run the schools, are out of a job.

01:57:14.000 Meanwhile, public schools, screw you, they get your money anyway. 0.99

01:57:18.000 Their accountability is zero. 0.93

01:57:21.000 None!

01:57:21.000 There's no accountability.

01:57:23.000 Let me give you an example.

01:57:24.000 Here's the thing too, by the way, the people I'm talking about with charter schools.

01:57:26.000 This is a total rich white privilege issue because the kids who benefit the most are kids in inner cities who can go to schools that aren't in their crappy district. 0.97

01:57:34.000 And rich white liberals, of course, are nearly always racist and they don't want... 0.97

01:57:37.000 They want to help... 0.97

01:57:38.000 We want to help the people of color from afar.

01:57:41.000 We want to help the Detroit people of color from afar.

01:57:43.000 We don't want them coming into Grosse Pointe.

01:57:46.000 So then they get mad with the charter schools.

01:57:49.000 They hurt the most.

01:57:50.000 Ferris, it really disrupts things when they invade the Wimbledon.

01:57:52.000 And when they invade the Wimbledon, there's no better record club than the public club of the Wimbledon.

01:57:58.000 I hope you're strapped at the Wimbledon.

01:58:01.000 Let's talk about this.

01:58:02.000 The literacy rate in poor urban areas, public schools, they don't have any other choices, are horrible.

01:58:07.000 In Detroit, a young man is more likely to end up in prison than they are to graduate high school.

01:58:14.000 So public schools and their social justice union-backed teachers have failed these communities since they've existed.

01:58:21.000 It couldn't be worse, and they have plenty of money.

01:58:24.000 It doesn't work.

01:58:25.000 We know it doesn't work.

01:58:26.000 People, and these kids in the worst school districts, again, they get the short end of the stick.

01:58:30.000 Nobody's even arguing it.

01:58:31.000 The only argument is over the solution.

01:58:33.000 So, school choice, conservatives, libertarians, they're advocating school choice and rewarding, innovative, well-performing charter schools?

01:58:41.000 Or attaching a voucher to the child?

01:58:43.000 Democrats, like Elizabeth Warren, advocate more money to the system that's already failing. 0.99

01:58:47.000 That's it.

01:58:48.000 More money.

01:58:49.000 More money, please.

01:58:51.000 There's no valid argument.

01:58:52.000 Everything that could occur in a charter school that could be a problem occurs in a public school, and then some with zero accountability.

01:58:59.000 So why are they so hell-bent on destroying school choice?

01:59:03.000 And just handing over more money to a failed system?

01:59:06.000 Well, listen.

01:59:07.000 Look at the top political donors and look at the public sector unions, and at least the Democrats get their job security, right?

01:59:13.000 Screw the kid!

01:59:14.000 We have to help the schools.

01:59:15.000 Why?

01:59:15.000 More votes, more money, more unions.

01:59:18.000 Christopher Titus.

01:59:18.000 Oh, Christopher Titus next.

01:59:20.000 And now, Samantha Bee says vagina. 1.00

01:59:32.000 My vagina! 1.00

01:59:35.000 My vagina! 1.00

01:59:41.000 What will that broad say next? 1.00

01:59:42.000 Stay tuned for more. 1.00

01:59:43.000 Samantha Bee Says Vagina. 1.00

01:59:49.000 Samantha Bee Says Vagina. 1.00

02:00:10.000 I take some pride in this, that everyone who's ever been on the program with whom I disagree has either been back or has wanted to come back. 0.94

02:00:17.000 Sorry, I didn't ask you, what's the best plug for you, Chris?

02:00:20.000 The best plug for me?

02:00:22.000 What I've done or what's coming up?

02:00:24.000 Yeah, where should people find you?

02:00:26.000 You can go to at Titus Nation on Twitter.

02:00:28.000 You can go to The Real Christopher Titus.

02:00:30.000 And there's a new comedy special coming out in a couple months called Born With a Defect.

02:00:33.000 And we're finishing that right now.

02:00:35.000 Okay.

02:00:35.000 So there you go.

02:00:35.000 Well, Christopher Titus, for those who didn't catch on yet.

02:00:39.000 You were talking about off-air the debate that we had on gun control.

02:00:43.000 I literally don't think we can call it a debate.

02:00:46.000 Not so much.

02:00:47.000 Two swinging alpha mayos yelling at each other.

02:00:50.000 Honestly, we both needed orangutan fur, I thought, at one point, because we were just both yelling at each other.

02:00:57.000 If we could have thrown poop over Skype, I think we would have. 1.00

02:01:00.000 It was the stupidest, weirdest thing ever. 0.99

02:01:02.000 Could have brought in Harambe as a moderator. 1.00

02:01:05.000 Exactly.

02:01:07.000 You were on a hair trigger, and I was, because before that interview, people don't know, before that interview, we tried to call Chris, and he admits he had the time wrong, and then we had to bump him when we rearranged because we had another guest call in late, and so he was like, why is it?

02:01:20.000 It got off to the worst foot possible.

02:01:20.000 It got off to the worst start, and I will say it was not my proudest moment.

02:01:25.000 A lot more yelling than I typically like, and we were like, we have to bring him back.

02:01:30.000 Yeah, so I appreciate you.

02:01:31.000 I appreciate you calling it.

02:01:32.000 And I think I put it off for a while because I was like, it was so weird to see the responses to it.

02:01:36.000 There was psychotic responses.

02:01:38.000 It's amazing to see your extreme fans, my extreme fans, and how far they will go and what they will say.

02:01:44.000 And I started to think...

02:01:45.000 Whenever I do something like this, I never want to be part of the din. 0.99

02:01:48.000 I don't want to be part of the problem, which is the idiots on TV yelling at each other, and then I was doing it with you, and I walked away. 0.97

02:01:55.000 I didn't even care that whether winning the debate, losing the debate, that didn't bother me. 0.99

02:02:00.000 What bothered me was the behavior during it.

02:02:02.000 It was you and I just screaming at each other.

02:02:04.000 So...

02:02:05.000 I just want to say that we've got to this place – and this is why we're currently in this situation now, I believe, in the country with who's running for president because the divides are so deep.

02:02:14.000 The chasm is so big.

02:02:16.000 What's going to happen is that – so we end up coming up with these extreme people.

02:02:21.000 Like I tell you what, if Elon Musk and Mitt Romney were running, I think we'd all be a lot happier.

02:02:26.000 Don't you?

02:02:27.000 I'm not a fan of either of them a ton, but I can see where you're coming from.

02:02:31.000 Here's the thing, though.

02:02:32.000 That's a good point.

02:02:33.000 And by the way, like I said, Jared knew.

02:02:35.000 I was pissed off, too.

02:02:36.000 I was like, what is he saying?

02:02:38.000 We booked him three hours ago.

02:02:40.000 It's not my fault.

02:02:41.000 We were both angry.

02:02:42.000 With Mitt Romney, here's the deal with Donald Trump.

02:02:45.000 They're lobbing out these accusations now.

02:02:47.000 Some of the criticism may or may not be valid.

02:02:49.000 However, the left has lobbed these same criticisms and screamed them they did the same thing with Bush, McCain, Romney. 1.00

02:02:56.000 Romney was a racist, he was a sexist, he was an evil person. 0.99

02:02:59.000 And like you're saying right now, even though I don't like him on some policy, no one can really believe Mitt Romney's a racist, evil, bad guy. 0.99

02:03:06.000 No, and it's funny because my wife and I were watching the speech he came out and gave out Trump, and I watched the whole thing, and I had this moment of like, wow, this guy seems like an adult.

02:03:16.000 He actually stood for something, stood in the face of everybody getting mad at him on his side, and he said, no, this is what I believe.

02:03:23.000 I'm going to stand my ground.

02:03:24.000 And I thought, well, that's a dude.

02:03:26.000 I may not believe him or like him all the time, but...

02:03:28.000 But that's a dude I could say, okay, I know the country's not going to burn down.

02:03:32.000 And that's what worries me a little bit right now is that we've got – whatever you think about Hillary, at least she's done some stuff.

02:03:38.000 I just – again, when I watched Trump, I thought, oh, that's me and Crowder.

02:03:42.000 At the debate, I thought, oh, that's me and Crowder.

02:03:44.000 He's acting like Crowder.

02:03:46.000 And so I won't be doing that again.

02:03:48.000 Hey, did I ask you a question?

02:03:49.000 I've got to answer.

02:03:49.000 Did I ask you a question?

02:03:50.000 I'm going to answer your question.

02:03:51.000 Yeah.

02:03:52.000 You know, I – I don't believe you at all.

02:03:56.000 That was our drinking game.

02:03:57.000 Our drinking game was every time he mentions China, Mexico says frankly, truthfully, believe me, and not gay Jared is not a big man, and he was hammered. 0.70

02:04:08.000 Absolutely hammered.

02:04:09.000 Was not.

02:04:09.000 I would have been.

02:04:10.000 Here's the thing.

02:04:11.000 Anybody who has to...

02:04:12.000 It's almost like he wants...

02:04:14.000 I've never seen someone over-enunciate except for John Lovett's character when he was the theater guy.

02:04:20.000 You know?

02:04:21.000 China.

02:04:22.000 In China.

02:04:24.000 What are you doing?

02:04:25.000 Did we get it?

02:04:25.000 It requires stamina.

02:04:27.000 You know what probably happened is he mispronounced it once.

02:04:30.000 My son walked around school saying stamina all the time.

02:04:34.000 You know, and obviously I think the idea of Hillary is just awful, Hillary Clinton. 0.99

02:04:38.000 I think you're talking about a known serial liar, corrupt politician defined. 0.95

02:04:43.000 I haven't been a huge... 0.53

02:04:44.000 Everyone knows I wasn't a huge Trump fan in the primary.

02:04:47.000 I don't think he had a great debate performance.

02:04:49.000 I think he did really well in the first 15 minutes, and then, ironically enough, he didn't have a ton of stamina.

02:04:54.000 So I don't want to go back through this because my audience has heard this tonight.

02:04:57.000 But...

02:04:58.000 I think what you're talking about is important, the screaming, because it falls on deaf ears now, the screaming about Trump, because they've done it with every Republican ever.

02:05:09.000 Yeah, so here's what I got, because I agree with that, and I agree the political system right now is pretty much rattled and broken a little bit, and I think what you have to do is sometimes you've got to suck it up.

02:05:19.000 Honestly, there was a time – remember when Dukakis ran?

02:05:21.000 I was watching Dukakis, and I was like, I can't vote for this guy.

02:05:24.000 I just can't.

02:05:25.000 I don't like what he stands for.

02:05:26.000 He doesn't really stand for anything. 0.87

02:05:27.000 He's wonky.

02:05:28.000 I don't trust with what's going on.

02:05:32.000 The Soviet Union just – I didn't trust him. 0.57

02:05:35.000 I didn't trust that he was going to handle the – So I voted for Bush 1.

02:05:39.000 I did.

02:05:39.000 I was like, all right, this guy, I'm going to vote for this guy.

02:05:41.000 And I think that's where we lose it.

02:05:43.000 Sometimes we got to put – you got to put ideology aside and just vote country.

02:05:48.000 And I've done that a couple of times where I'm just like, nah, that's why I claim to be an independent.

02:05:52.000 I voted for three different Republicans.

02:05:54.000 And I think we all need to stop this infighting.

02:05:58.000 Like there's people that won't – if you don't believe what they believe, they're done.

02:06:02.000 They don't know who you are as a person.

02:06:04.000 They don't know that you could be probably their best friend.

02:06:06.000 They just cut you off.

02:06:08.000 That's where we're lost right now.

02:06:10.000 Why are you laughing?

02:06:11.000 Been there.

02:06:12.000 Oh yeah, been there.

02:06:13.000 His name who shall not be spoken.

02:06:14.000 Well, I'm glad to hear you.

02:06:15.000 And that's why we wanted to have you back.

02:06:17.000 Because that was, I think, probably the most contentious interview debate we've done on the program.

02:06:21.000 And so hopefully people watching can see...

02:06:23.000 Because if you watch the other debates I've had in the show, I think I have a tracker where people are like, Oh, Stephen was mad about something.

02:06:29.000 It...

02:06:30.000 So I think it's important for people to see that even if you scream and you get mad that you can come back on, you're obviously welcome, and we don't hate Christopher Titus, though I think voting for Hillary Clinton is a fatal error.

02:06:42.000 I'm actually voting against...

02:06:44.000 Okay, well, fatal error I would not say.

02:06:47.000 I would say maybe we'll put the car in the ditch.

02:06:49.000 I think the other guy's a fatal error.

02:06:51.000 I think there's a guy...

02:06:53.000 40 years of public service, whatever you think happened, she's had 14 different Republican committees try to take her down. 1.00

02:06:59.000 It hasn't happened, and they got her husband.

02:07:01.000 They got her husband on impeachment.

02:07:02.000 Half of them had brakes go out in their car, so it's...

02:07:04.000 That's not really fair.

02:07:06.000 I actually do a joke about the last four candidates running for president.

02:07:09.000 And I do all four. 0.61

02:07:10.000 The last four guys we had, Trump, who's like this mobster four-year-old, and I mean he's got the hands of a four-year-old, and he just says what he wants. 0.89

02:07:16.000 Like, it's crazy.

02:07:16.000 You know, I'd like to do my daughter.

02:07:17.000 What? 0.84

02:07:18.000 Like, he's crazy. 0.97

02:07:19.000 Then he had Cruz. 0.82

02:07:20.000 And with Cruz, you could just see Cruz...

02:07:22.000 I'm glad he quit because...

02:07:24.000 You could just see this sentence playing in Cruz's head all the time.

02:07:26.000 No one's ever going to wipe a booger on me again.

02:07:28.000 No one's ever going to wipe a booger on me again.

02:07:30.000 And then you've got Hillary, who has this wake of bodies behind her, allegedly. 1.00

02:07:34.000 I say allegedly because I don't want to end up in a suspicious one-car accident.

02:07:37.000 Yes.

02:07:38.000 Sitting in the front seat with trunk carpet fibers on my shirt and a suicide note written in a language I don't speak.

02:07:44.000 In news today, Christopher Titus' propeller plane went down over the Pacific.

02:07:48.000 And then you have Bernie who, I love Bernie, but at one point you just realize, oh, he's just like a really grumpy model train enthusiast.

02:07:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:07:56.000 You can just picture him in the White House just going, do-do-do.

02:07:58.000 Mr.

02:07:58.000 President, Vladimir Putin's on the phone.

02:07:59.000 I told you, don't bother me when I'm playing with my trains.

02:08:02.000 Yeah.

02:08:03.000 So I think we have to – I'm glad we got to talk.

02:08:07.000 I just got to say, I'm glad we got to talk.

02:08:10.000 We can do this again, man.

02:08:13.000 I would love to talk with you.

02:08:14.000 It's better to do it this way than screaming.

02:08:16.000 I think instead of a street fight, we had a tweet fight first.

02:08:20.000 And I think that's the problem.

02:08:22.000 You started it.

02:08:24.000 Yeah.

02:08:24.000 I was sitting there.

02:08:25.000 You were the one.

02:08:26.000 I was like, okay.

02:08:27.000 Believe me, I will finish it.

02:08:28.000 Believe me.

02:08:29.000 No, I'm glad to have you back on.

02:08:31.000 Okay, let me ask you this.

02:08:32.000 If it were like a Rubio, someone with a lot of experience, polished, or a Carly Fiorina versus Hillary, would you consider the other side?

02:08:40.000 I always consider the other side.

02:09:01.000 Yeah.

02:09:02.000 So at the end of it, we have a president.

02:09:05.000 He's got three rape allegations.

02:09:06.000 He's got – like there's this list of stuff.

02:09:08.000 He's ripped off many workers.

02:09:09.000 He's got 3,500 lawsuits.

02:09:11.000 And I'm not even arguing with you.

02:09:14.000 I'm just saying these are just facts that are going on right now.

02:09:16.000 And at one point I go, I don't remember ever in our history Eisenhower having three rape allegations.

02:09:23.000 You know, I don't remember.

02:09:24.000 And then Hillary's got all these allegations, too. 0.99

02:09:26.000 And her husband, and they were covered up, and she defended a child rapist and laughed about it. 1.00

02:09:31.000 It's one thing to defend a child rapist. 0.84

02:09:32.000 It's one thing years later to suppress evidence and laugh about it.

02:09:36.000 We can go through the three things with Hillary, too.

02:09:37.000 We can go, she supported the senator who used to be a cake. 0.99

02:09:40.000 That was 40 years ago.

02:09:40.000 KKK thing, he came and said, I was wrong, I was wrong, and she's now a friend.

02:09:45.000 Actually, actually, that's not, I understand where you're coming from, and I do think it's irrelevant.

02:09:49.000 I don't think she's a racist.

02:09:50.000 I don't think Donald Trump's a racist.

02:09:51.000 However, Robert Byrd said the N-word repeatedly, ER, enunciated as recently as 2002.

02:09:58.000 And he was fourth in line for the presidency if a plane went down with Obama, Biden, and I think at that time it was Pelosi.

02:10:06.000 I don't think that reflects on Hillary.

02:10:08.000 I don't think that reflects on Hillary.

02:10:09.000 That's that guy.

02:10:10.000 But that's what we've lost in politics, whether it's Congress can't deal with the president.

02:10:15.000 And I believe they're kind of – I mean for this party that just bitches about the Constitution all the time – You have to vote on the presidential Supreme Court nominee.

02:10:25.000 Just vote on it.

02:10:26.000 Vote him out.

02:10:26.000 Don't say no.

02:10:27.000 That's fine. 0.99

02:10:28.000 But have the balls to stand up. 0.99

02:10:30.000 We have a bunch of people right now that won't stand up. 0.98

02:10:34.000 Vote no and be proud of it. 0.96

02:10:35.000 I know.

02:10:36.000 I don't like this guy.

02:10:36.000 I'm not voting him in.

02:10:37.000 That's it.

02:10:38.000 Then it's done.

02:10:38.000 But people are so worried about politically down the road what's going to happen instead of doing their job for us.

02:10:43.000 And I would say that on both sides.

02:10:45.000 Well, I think you're right.

02:10:46.000 They tried to paint Republicans the party of no for a long time, and I always said, you know what, I'm fine with it. 0.57

02:10:50.000 No, we don't want a mandate, an unconstitutional mandate that people have to purchase private insurance.

02:10:56.000 No.

02:10:57.000 I was like, okay, I'm fine with a no on that.

02:10:59.000 I'm fine with it.

02:10:59.000 And people, if you want to say they're the party of no, that's fine.

02:11:01.000 I wish more people in office, Congress, Senate, judges, I wish they would vote no more often as it relates to expanding government.

02:11:08.000 Hey, we want this free thing.

02:11:09.000 No.

02:11:09.000 Hey, we want this free thing.

02:11:11.000 No, I'm okay with that.

02:11:12.000 And I think that's something that more people, if they understood on the left, especially coming from a socialist country like Canada, that it doesn't work just because you don't think the government can do it efficiently doesn't mean you don't want people to have good health care, doesn't mean you don't want them to have good retirement, doesn't mean you don't want them to be safe.

02:11:28.000 You just understand that government is not the entity that can do it well.

02:11:33.000 Well, you know, the government has a tendency to – the problem with the government, the ideas are great.

02:11:37.000 The people – what screws it up is the people that come up with the ideas, come up with the rules, and everybody – a buddy of mine has this concept called half a glass of juice.

02:11:46.000 There's people in the world you meet.

02:11:47.000 The half a glass of juice guy, the security guard in the parking lot that's screaming at you because your car isn't between the lines, that guy's got half a glass of juice.

02:11:54.000 It doesn't really matter that your car is an inch over the line, but I guess, could you repark it, sir?

02:11:57.000 We have to put – that guy.

02:11:58.000 And then you got these guys that are really powerful people, that are the nicest people.

02:12:02.000 Dana Carvey told me once, I said, tell me something about famous people.

02:12:05.000 He said, the ones with real talent, the ones who know who they are, are the nicest people.

02:12:09.000 The ones that are barely holding on, half a glass of juice, he said, those people will act like psychopaths.

02:12:13.000 And I think what happens in government is we get – there's a percentage of people who are going to be douchebags and on both sides.

02:12:20.000 And because we have the percentage of douchebags up there, they put more regulations, more regulations that don't serve the public but just serve their personal interests, and that's where everything starts to go sideways.

02:12:29.000 If you could take human beings and let the Skynet computers just make the policy, I think we'd be a lot better off.

02:12:34.000 I know.

02:12:35.000 I know how that story ends with Skynet.

02:12:37.000 It ends with, what's her name, doing pull-ups in a mental ward in a nuclear holocaust. 0.76

02:12:43.000 That's my mom. 0.99

02:12:44.000 My mom was in and out of mental institutions.

02:12:46.000 I was like, how would if mom worked out?

02:12:50.000 Oh my gosh, and she did not age well.

02:12:51.000 You either can be fat.

02:12:55.000 You can be skinny or you can look young.

02:12:57.000 Fatter people look younger for longer.

02:12:59.000 So she just did not.

02:13:01.000 Time was not kind to her.

02:13:03.000 What's the best place?

02:13:04.000 We have to go.

02:13:05.000 I'm glad to have you back.

02:13:05.000 We'll have you back longer.

02:13:06.000 What's the best place again for people to find you?

02:13:08.000 If you want to tweet at me angrily, go to at Titus Nation on Twitter.

02:13:14.000 The Real Christopher Titus on Facebook. 0.97

02:13:16.000 And if you go to Christopher Titus TV, you can watch some of my comedy and then tell me how bad I suck.

02:13:21.000 Yes, well, they will no doubt do that, and the worst place in the world is the YouTube comment section.

02:13:27.000 So, Christopher Titus, thank you for being with us, sir, and to people who are going to comment or tweet, keep it civil.

02:13:32.000 You can make fun of some things, like his appearance or how white his teeth are, but don't get personal on, like, I don't know.

02:13:41.000 This has gone off the rails.

02:13:42.000 We'll be back!

02:13:43.000 We'll be back.

02:13:58.000 Gosh, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, Mr.

02:14:01.000 Holt.

02:14:02.000 No, that's quite alright.

02:14:03.000 I can take it.

02:14:04.000 Well, I gotta tell you, the person of color journalism grant, you were close, but they went another direction.

02:14:14.000 Oh, that's incredibly surprising.

02:14:16.000 I know.

02:14:17.000 I know I was as surprised as you.

02:14:19.000 I really thought I had that on a dead log.

02:14:21.000 Yeah, I know.

02:14:22.000 Well, if you don't mind, good sir, could you kindly tell me who did win?

02:14:25.000 Yeah, sure, but I don't think you're going to like it.

02:14:29.000 Um...

02:14:29.000 Sean King.

02:14:30.000 Oh, skunked again by Sean King.

02:14:34.000 Might I ask why?

02:14:35.000 Did they give a reason perchance?

02:14:37.000 Yeah, they did.

02:14:37.000 They said they were looking to go more...

02:14:41.000 Oh, that stands to reason.

02:14:43.000 This has been Lester Holt.

02:14:45.000 Receives disappointing news.

02:14:47.000 We'll see you next time.

02:15:17.000 We'll see you next time.

02:15:34.000 Final segment.

02:15:35.000 That's Hopper Crowder barking.

02:15:36.000 By the way, for those asking what the well wishes, his surgery went very well.

02:15:39.000 He seems to be walking better, doesn't he?

02:15:41.000 He does.

02:15:42.000 Immediately.

02:15:42.000 Pretty much.

02:15:43.000 He had knee surgery a while back, people asking my dog, and they put this sort of fake stabilizer.

02:15:49.000 What's with the knee surgery in your family?

02:15:51.000 I don't know.

02:15:51.000 Me?

02:15:52.000 Hopper?

02:15:53.000 And what happened is, once his ligament had scarred over and his knee had stabilized, then this sort of, I guess it's like silicone and steel, was loose.

02:16:03.000 And it was rubbing up against, and so it caused irritation.

02:16:06.000 I mean, his scar, his knee looks like Frankenstein's monster, but...

02:16:11.000 So you'd think he'd be in more pain.

02:16:13.000 He's walking better right now.

02:16:14.000 Yeah.

02:16:15.000 So good for him.

02:16:15.000 So people have been asking, and I think his presidential campaign will continue next week.

02:16:20.000 Yeah, I'm sure he's eager to hit the trails, get back there.

02:16:24.000 I think so.

02:16:24.000 Next week we have Paul Joseph Watson.

02:16:26.000 Paul Joseph Watson.

02:16:29.000 I'll have to contact our booker about who else we have.

02:16:32.000 Okay, we have a few.

02:16:33.000 Oh, that's right.

02:16:34.000 I remember.

02:16:34.000 We're still waiting on confirmation.

02:16:35.000 Yeah.

02:16:36.000 I am the booker, by the way.

02:16:37.000 I just have no idea who.

02:16:38.000 Yes.

02:16:39.000 Who could be very good.

02:16:40.000 So I know often, you know, I really appreciate people often send me these emails about the closing segment and how it inspires them for the week.

02:16:46.000 I don't know if this one so much will inspire you, but the big picture here is important.

02:16:50.000 I hope it does.

02:16:51.000 And it ties back into having someone like Andrew Bogut on here.

02:16:55.000 And for every Andrew Bogut who you see on the show, listen, the guy obviously, the guy's, what, making $13 million?

02:16:59.000 Obviously he's a big name.

02:17:01.000 He doesn't do any of these conservative shows.

02:17:03.000 Yeah.

02:17:04.000 We have a lot of people who watch this and enjoy it.

02:17:06.000 I think it's, I like to think it's because we're more entertaining than the constant shrill, Obama!

02:17:11.000 Thanks, Obama!

02:17:12.000 You know, we're trying to do a little bit more than that.

02:17:14.000 Um...

02:17:16.000 But there's a greater issue at play here.

02:17:17.000 We were talking about this.

02:17:18.000 We were talking about Emma Watson at the UN demanding that they do something.

02:17:24.000 I don't even know what her deal was on equal pay and treating sexual violence as violence as though it's not the case yet.

02:17:30.000 And we need to make sure that educational institutions are more equal.

02:17:35.000 In other words, demanding more of this safe space, trigger warning, social justice environment in school.

02:17:39.000 We saw it with Ariel Winter talking about you should be proud.

02:17:43.000 Proud and body pride and no criticism.

02:17:46.000 Here are my breasts, but don't comment on my breasts.

02:17:49.000 People don't have the right to talk this way. 0.81

02:17:51.000 How horrible and misogynistic is this?

02:17:53.000 They accuse you all of being sexist.

02:17:55.000 We then talked about the UN now coming in telling the United States you need to pay reparations for slavery.

02:18:01.000 Barack Obama went to the UN saying we need to give up our freedoms for the greater good.

02:18:06.000 And then you have, of course, Elizabeth Warren and the entire left against charter schools, choice, educating yourself, illuminating new issues, new possibilities, innovation.

02:18:16.000 Emma Watson doesn't want it in college.

02:18:18.000 The UN and our president doesn't want it in the United States.

02:18:21.000 The DNC and the leftist movement, they don't even want it in public schools.

02:18:26.000 you notice a very disturbing trend of them entirely, not a little bit, entirely trying to control the discussion and the flow of information.

02:18:36.000 That's what we've been seeing here in the last few weeks, and you see it with the elections as well.

02:18:41.000 You see it with the way they cover the elections, the way they cover the debates, the way they cover Donald Trump.

02:18:46.000 Whether you like him or not, no one can argue that their treatment of him has been fair in comparison to Hillary.

02:18:50.000 And here's a silver lining with that.

02:18:53.000 That's why people like Andrew Bogut, who are in the NBA, part of the full-court sports press, where it is just, let's give Caitlyn Jenner an award for winning the triathlon as Bruce.

02:19:05.000 It is so far left.

02:19:06.000 For a long time, people didn't feel like they could speak up.

02:19:09.000 For a long time, people didn't feel like they could ever come on a program like this.

02:19:12.000 And that's changed.

02:19:13.000 When the left is so overbearing and trying to control everything, it makes it okay for you to push back a little more.

02:19:22.000 No one's going to blame you.

02:19:24.000 I understand conservatives out there, it's easy to get depressed because you never have a safe space.

02:19:28.000 The entire educational world is a safe space for liberals.

02:19:32.000 Hollywood, we've talked about, is one big safe space for liberals.

02:19:35.000 As a conservative, you never get that.

02:19:37.000 A safe space is basically a place where ideas go completely untested.

02:19:41.000 Save space, don't say things I don't like.

02:19:43.000 You never get that as a libertarian, conservative, constitutionalist, federalist, whatever you want to call yourself.

02:19:49.000 You don't get that benefit.

02:19:51.000 And what you see now, not to interrupt, but what you see now is not colleges and universities preparing students for the real world.

02:19:57.000 They're creating their own fake world.

02:20:00.000 They're molding it to how they want.

02:20:01.000 And they say, now go make the real world.

02:20:03.000 Go force it to be like this safe space.

02:20:05.000 And it doesn't work.

02:20:06.000 It doesn't work.

02:20:06.000 You can't do it.

02:20:07.000 Does it work?

02:20:08.000 It's not reality.

02:20:08.000 No.

02:20:09.000 We see it with all child actors.

02:20:10.000 We see it with people in Hollywood.

02:20:12.000 The real world kicks their teeth in, and you see that happening with college students.

02:20:16.000 When they get in the real world, even people who would pull the lever for Hillary Clinton don't tolerate them a whole lot.

02:20:21.000 And same thing with people like Andrew Bogut, people out there.

02:20:24.000 Even LeBron James, I bet you, is going to come around because he's seen the backlash in simply saying, we all need to come together.

02:20:30.000 When they are so overbearing, It allows the pendulum to swing the other way.

02:20:35.000 And people don't blame you as much.

02:20:37.000 And here's the beauty of that.

02:20:38.000 Conservatives, Federalists, whatever you want to call yourself.

02:20:40.000 I always get flack for the language.

02:20:41.000 You are going to be so much better prepared.

02:20:44.000 This season in the United States of entirely trying to censor speech, it's been exposed.

02:20:49.000 It's been exposed on YouTube.

02:20:50.000 It's been exposed on Twitter.

02:20:51.000 It's been exposed on Facebook.

02:20:52.000 It's been exposed with the UN. It's been exposed with colleges, right?

02:20:55.000 It's been exposed.

02:20:56.000 And so the dialogue is going to start taking place.

02:20:59.000 It's going to have to now. 0.91

02:21:02.000 When big names are coming out, okay, this is ridiculous. 0.96

02:21:04.000 People who aren't even necessarily political, like a Bogut. 0.92

02:21:08.000 The dialogue has to take place.

02:21:10.000 And here's the beauty.

02:21:12.000 These people, these safe spacers, the Emma Watsons, the Elizabeth Warrens, take your pick, the Sean Kings, they're not ready for that dialogue to take.

02:21:21.000 You've been having it all the time.

02:21:23.000 You've been having it your entire life because you're conservative.

02:21:26.000 You've had to defend your views.

02:21:27.000 They never have.

02:21:29.000 So you are primed and ready now.

02:21:31.000 When the floodgates open and people start talking about these issues, people are no longer afraid to be accused of being a racist, sexist, misogynist, xenophobic.

02:21:41.000 Now that we can have these conversations, we always were!

02:21:46.000 And that's the beauty of it.

02:21:48.000 So it may seem depressing if you're in college.

02:21:50.000 I don't blame you.

02:21:50.000 You don't have that safe space, but it's like training with a weighted bat, with a weighted vest.

02:21:54.000 When you get in the real world, that's why invariably people become more conservative or conservatives are more successful and happier in the real world. 0.98

02:22:01.000 Believe me, college sucks. 0.93

02:22:03.000 They'd probably get more depressed if we had statistics on that. 0.97

02:22:05.000 In the real world, they fare better because while these kids have been training their entire life to avoid the real world, you've been preparing yourself for it.

02:22:15.000 So it's okay to go through a little bit of pain now.

02:22:20.000 People out there, I know we have a lot of young kids, college students.

02:22:22.000 Expect that.

02:22:24.000 But when the shackles come off, when the weighted vest comes off, my God, you are going to be amazed as to how easy it is.

02:22:30.000 Hopefully that helps.

Louder with Crowder - September 30, 2016

#93 TO THE SAFE SPACES! Andrew Bogut and Christopher Titus | Louder With Crowder

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