Louder with Crowder - #95 THE EPIC TRUMP DEBATE! Gavin McInnes and Andrew Klavan

00:00:00.000 You've found yourself at the junction where worlds meet.

00:00:04.000 Politics.

00:00:05.000 Civility?

00:00:06.000 How about honesty in this country, folks?

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00:00:14.000 It's about having a healthy body image.

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00:00:46.000 All right, that's the sound of me getting my headphones on, but the sound of the weekend.

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00:01:06.000 Glad to be here.

00:01:06.000 Big week.

00:01:07.000 Huge show tonight.

00:01:08.000 Oh, producing with me in studio, as always, is my video producer, NotGayJered.

00:01:12.000 You can follow him on Twitter.

00:01:13.000 He is NotGay at NotGayJered.

00:01:15.000 I fulfill my legal obligations.

00:01:17.000 Draw your own conclusions.

00:01:19.000 We have a pretty big announcement from Not Gay Jared here.

00:01:21.000 I'm going to get rid of these glasses for those who can't see the wardrobe here.

00:01:24.000 It's a little bit hard tonight for me to talk if I sound like I'm stiff-lipped.

00:01:28.000 It's true.

00:01:28.000 Watch the video stream.

00:01:29.000 You will understand why.

00:01:31.000 We have a huge show.

00:01:33.000 We have Andrew Klavan and Gavin McGinnis on for a full hour to talk about Trump.

00:01:38.000 Give you the pros and cons, the virtues, the drawbacks.

00:01:42.000 Historically, Gavin is...

00:01:44.000 Gavin is very pro-Trump.

00:01:45.000 And historically, Clavin is more...

00:01:47.000 He's more critical of Trump, but they're both voting Trump.

00:01:49.000 Yes.

00:01:50.000 So originally we wanted to have Milo and Ben.

00:01:52.000 Milo couldn't do it.

00:01:54.000 Then we wanted to have Gavin and Ben, and they both agreed, but it's Yom Kippur this week?

00:01:59.000 Is that the holiday?

00:01:59.000 Something going on.

00:02:00.000 I get it wrong.

00:02:01.000 I'm a Gentile.

00:02:02.000 Yeah.

00:02:02.000 But Andrew Klavan agreed.

00:02:04.000 So Andrew Klavan is very critical of Trump, doesn't like him, but will vote for him.

00:02:07.000 Gavin is very much enthusiastic about Trump.

00:02:09.000 So we have that.

00:02:10.000 We have, of course, Nick DiPaolo playing hipster hobo.

00:02:14.000 Yes.

00:02:15.000 Then we have a real Dean Cain cutting his first hopper ads tonight to release during the breaks.

00:02:20.000 Feel the hopper.

00:02:21.000 And before we get to any of it, not gay, Jared, my highlight of the week.

00:02:24.000 Roll this clip.

00:02:26.000 Nobody can dispute the fact that we need...

00:02:30.000 That we need...

00:02:33.000 Oh, yeah.

00:02:35.000 And it gets sadder.

00:02:39.000 Does it?

00:02:40.000 Well, yeah.

00:02:41.000 He never really makes a comeback.

00:02:42.000 He never really gets there.

00:02:46.000 It's been a trend now, a meme, to accuse him of being a rapist at his rallies, and I love it.

00:02:50.000 But that man took heckling to an art.

00:02:53.000 It is.

00:02:54.000 He waited for the pause and just slid in there that you're a rapist.

00:02:58.000 And Bill Clinton, who was known for being pretty good with a word there, pretty good with a tongue twister, was not able to handle that.

00:03:06.000 He just got caught.

00:03:07.000 If I'm Bill Clinton, that's the first thing I prepare for when I go out in public.

00:03:13.000 That's the first insult I'm ready to, like, just...

00:03:15.000 Alright, now, Hillary, what's the most likely insult?

00:03:18.000 That you're a rapist?

00:03:19.000 What's the second most likely insult?

00:03:21.000 I'll purple that one.

00:03:24.000 That you're a serial rapist.

00:03:25.000 I'm showing a trend.

00:03:27.000 Not gay, Jared.

00:03:28.000 You have an announcement to make.

00:03:29.000 I do.

00:03:30.000 By the way, real quick, we're going to be covering election night.

00:03:32.000 We've realized that a lot of people who've tuned into the presidential debates will be covering all the debates, but we will be doing a live stream election night with an electoral map, keeping you up to date.

00:03:42.000 All of your favorites on Latterworth Crowder will be there as guests, popping in and out, big live stream, and a big announcement being made election night.

00:03:48.000 Huge announcement here on Latterworth Crowder, hashtag NeverDaily.

00:03:50.000 But right now, you have an announcement.

00:03:51.000 You told me before the show...

00:03:53.000 You've officially decided.

00:03:54.000 I have officially.

00:03:55.000 As of right now, I've reserved all rights to change my mind.

00:03:57.000 All rights.

00:03:58.000 But as of right now, I will pull the lever for one Donald Trump.

00:04:03.000 Okay.

00:04:04.000 So here's where I get there.

00:04:07.000 A lot of things we talk about are, you know, we talk about the moral things.

00:04:09.000 Can you stand behind a worst case scenario?

00:04:11.000 Can you put your name behind that guy if stuff really goes down in the wrong direction?

00:04:16.000 Can you emblazen your Metello logo in gold across the ticket?

00:04:19.000 No, I couldn't.

00:04:21.000 But here's where I get down.

00:04:23.000 Okay.

00:04:24.000 Disregarding, I understand there's going to be a president either way.

00:04:27.000 Less are two evils.

00:04:28.000 I understand.

00:04:28.000 I kind of, I hate that argument.

00:04:29.000 I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate it.

00:04:30.000 But I understand it has to be made.

00:04:32.000 Someone's going to be president.

00:04:33.000 That all said.

00:04:35.000 My decision comes from the conclusion, all the scenarios.

00:04:37.000 So the possible scenarios, Hillary Clinton wins, which is the most likely in my opinion.

00:04:41.000 No skin off my nose.

00:04:42.000 I did what I could.

00:04:42.000 I can live with it.

00:04:43.000 I can use that as a way to criticize Hillary, I think, better because I did what I could.

00:04:48.000 Now I can go after her.

00:04:50.000 I still get to piss off the social justice warriors because I can still tell them I voted Trump and just watch them burn down in a meltdown of triggering.

00:04:59.000 For the alt-right people, you know, they won't troll me.

00:05:03.000 There we go.

00:05:04.000 They won't troll me out.

00:05:05.000 That's because you hate them.

00:05:05.000 That's because I hate them.

00:05:06.000 I really hate them.

00:05:07.000 You really hate the alt-right trolls.

00:05:08.000 Pepe can go, yeah.

00:05:09.000 Fornicate himself.

00:05:10.000 But Trump are asexual, so I don't think they do.

00:05:12.000 I think they literally do.

00:05:13.000 They do.

00:05:14.000 It depends on how you look at it.

00:05:15.000 Okay.

00:05:15.000 So here's the flip side.

00:05:16.000 Okay.

00:05:16.000 If Trump does win, here are my three scenarios.

00:05:19.000 Scenario one.

00:05:20.000 Too many scenarios.

00:05:21.000 No, real quick.

00:05:22.000 He's literally Hitler 2.0.

00:05:24.000 In which case, there's a huge catalog of me saying, I really hate this guy.

00:05:27.000 I really don't want to vote for him.

00:05:28.000 I went to the polls.

00:05:29.000 I said, I think this guy is a piece of shit.

00:05:31.000 I said a couple Hail Marys.

00:05:32.000 You're giving yourself your own bleep button work.

00:05:34.000 I know.

00:05:35.000 That's my one a year.

00:05:37.000 And you know what?

00:05:38.000 I live with it.

00:05:38.000 We all loved it.

00:05:39.000 We trusted him, and he screwed us.

00:05:41.000 Number two, he's actually a really good president.

00:05:43.000 He does a lot better.

00:05:44.000 In which case, I can say, I pulled the lever.

00:05:46.000 It was a risk, and I was surprised.

00:05:49.000 Distinct possibility.

00:05:50.000 Here's the middle, and here's the thing that's most likely.

00:05:51.000 If he does win, I don't think it's likely.

00:05:53.000 If he does win, he's a mediocre piece of crap, which you know he's capable of.

00:05:58.000 I don't trust him on policies, even though I would rely on him on paper.

00:06:02.000 I don't trust him on them.

00:06:04.000 I think I'd earn more leverage to call him out and hold him accountable and be pissed at him if I pull the lever for him.

00:06:11.000 That's a good call.

00:06:12.000 But you said something earlier, too, before the show.

00:06:14.000 You said you don't think Trump understands constitutional rights.

00:06:18.000 I don't think he understands it.

00:06:19.000 I don't think he cares for them.

00:06:20.000 I don't think he cares for them.

00:06:21.000 I think Hillary proactively abhors them.

00:06:25.000 I think that's a fair assessment.

00:06:26.000 And I think that is probably the best case for those who are undecided to vote for Trump at this point.

00:06:32.000 I think he isn't really aware of a lot of them.

00:06:33.000 We talked about that with the no fly, no buy.

00:06:35.000 I think she detests them.

00:06:37.000 Yes.

00:06:37.000 So I think everyone on this program tonight is voting for Donald Trump.

00:06:42.000 So I will play devil's advocate with Klavan, with Gavin, because I've got to.

00:06:46.000 I've got to toss out the tough questions.

00:06:47.000 Sorry, you're not going to like it.

00:06:49.000 We've got to present the arguments that are made against him.

00:06:51.000 I think everyone is mostly on the same page here.

00:06:53.000 A couple of things.

00:06:55.000 How much time do we have?

00:06:57.000 We've got five minutes.

00:06:58.000 Okay, we've got five minutes.

00:06:58.000 So this will have to be a two-segment issue.

00:07:02.000 Here's the...

00:07:02.000 The job of this show, the goal of this show, right off the bat, is not to get someone elected, is not to endorse someone, is not to skew...

00:07:11.000 That's never been the goal of this show.

00:07:12.000 It's an entertainment show.

00:07:14.000 And it's designed to inform you and hopefully provide some insight.

00:07:17.000 We want you to leave this show laughing, entertained, and able to better critically think.

00:07:21.000 We don't tell you how to think.

00:07:22.000 Have I ever told you how to vote?

00:07:23.000 No.

00:07:23.000 I don't know how everyone on my team is voting.

00:07:25.000 I know Brodigan isn't going to vote for Trump.

00:07:27.000 I don't know Courtney Casey.

00:07:29.000 I don't know.

00:07:30.000 I didn't know you until tonight.

00:07:31.000 So I really don't.

00:07:32.000 I never tell anyone how to vote.

00:07:33.000 I never tell you how to vote.

00:07:34.000 That's not the goal of this show.

00:07:35.000 The goal is to inform and entertain.

00:07:38.000 And that being said...

00:07:38.000 And advocate for the principles, which would guide possibly your voting.

00:07:42.000 Even, I express my principles, and you can use them as a prism for which to filter issues.

00:07:49.000 And a lot of people do.

00:07:50.000 I'm pretty grateful for that.

00:07:51.000 That's the purpose of this show.

00:07:52.000 That being said, there's a level of authenticity that you don't see with a lot of shows.

00:07:56.000 So, for example, people got mad in a live stream.

00:07:57.000 This is right after the Hot Mic leak.

00:08:00.000 Mm-hmm.

00:08:00.000 Do I care that Donald Trump used naughty words?

00:08:02.000 No.

00:08:03.000 However, it doesn't serve me or you for me to be intellectually dishonest and say, who cares about adultery?

00:08:09.000 Who cares about groping?

00:08:10.000 Because all you need to do is rewind the catalog four months.

00:08:14.000 Now, I know all the other hosts lie about it, and they say, well, who cares, when they were...

00:08:18.000 Last week, complaining about Bill Clinton's sexual assault.

00:08:20.000 It doesn't serve me or you to say that.

00:08:23.000 So, I still hate adultery.

00:08:25.000 I still hate dishonesty.

00:08:27.000 I still hate people who don't understand the Second Amendment, no fly, no buy.

00:08:30.000 And because we react to events in a real way, when I get pissed off at Donald Trump, I'm going to talk about it just as much as I do Hillary.

00:08:36.000 Now, we've released...

00:08:38.000 At least 10 to 1 more content critical of Hillary than Donald Trump.

00:08:42.000 However, I'm not going to lie to you.

00:08:44.000 I am here.

00:08:45.000 I don't have a dog in this fight right now.

00:08:47.000 I really don't.

00:08:48.000 I don't like either candidate on a character level.

00:08:50.000 I think on a policy level I agree more with Donald Trump.

00:08:52.000 But I am not going to lie to myself or you acting as though either one of these people are good people.

00:08:59.000 No, that doesn't necessarily matter because they're your two choices.

00:09:02.000 The problem, and this is with media right now, this is the first time we've ever seen this, the problem is when facts are upsetting to people.

00:09:10.000 Because I've just told you that we're probably all voting Trump, but I'm going to be honest when things don't look good or have a problem with it.

00:09:15.000 The problem is when people get furious because you cite a fact.

00:09:19.000 For example, right now the betting odds are an 85% chance that Hillary Clinton wins.

00:09:23.000 Right now the lines are going to light up with, Oh, you're working for Hillary!

00:09:26.000 The polls are rigged!

00:09:27.000 The polls are rigged!

00:09:28.000 Here's the deal.

00:09:29.000 Right now, you know what?

00:09:30.000 Let's roll this clip really quickly.

00:09:32.000 I love Rush Limbaugh.

00:09:33.000 I think he's great.

00:09:34.000 But he actively said this to a caller on the show.

00:09:37.000 And let me tell you why I disagree with it.

00:09:38.000 This will take two segments.

00:09:39.000 Let's roll the clip.

00:09:40.000 My advice would be to ignore them.

00:09:42.000 Whether they're right or wrong, ignore them.

00:09:44.000 Don't let them affect...

00:09:47.000 Don't let anything dispirit you.

00:09:51.000 I don't mean you specifically.

00:09:54.000 He's right about that.

00:09:55.000 Don't let them dispirit you.

00:09:56.000 Don't let the polls dictate how you vote.

00:09:57.000 At all.

00:09:58.000 Don't let them dictate how you vote.

00:09:59.000 He goes on to say that the Democrats are afraid because the polls aren't working in Brexit, and that's what's expressed.

00:10:06.000 Here's the deal.

00:10:07.000 He said that yesterday.

00:10:09.000 That was all the conservative sites, whether it's Drudge, whether it's Breitbart, whether it's the conservative polls, sites that I read, sites that I like.

00:10:16.000 Saying ignore the polls, they're rigged.

00:10:18.000 Right now, let me show you right now the front page at Drudge on my screen.

00:10:25.000 Let me bring this up for you.

00:10:27.000 Right now, Rasmussen, he's back in the lead, and Donald Trump tweets out polls.

00:10:32.000 So yesterday, don't pay attention to the polls.

00:10:34.000 Today, look at the polls, everyone.

00:10:37.000 Now, I know people have a short attention span, and so people don't remember it, and people want to hear the things that affirm what they believe.

00:10:44.000 And that's a real business right now, and I want to...

00:10:47.000 How much time do we have here?

00:10:48.000 One minute.

00:10:48.000 One minute, okay.

00:10:49.000 So I'll put that on the shelf.

00:10:52.000 Okay.

00:10:53.000 We know for a fact, and I'll give you tangible numbers and analytics to prove to you the wool that has been pulled over your eyes.

00:10:59.000 We know for a fact that we could triple our traffic, triple our listenership if we dealt in conspiracy theories that weren't true, and if we just did red meat cheerleading.

00:11:06.000 We've seen it.

00:11:07.000 We'll show you how.

00:11:09.000 We try to be honest with you, because unlike every host right now, every single cable news outlet, what they tell you is, the country's over, it's done, it hinges on this election, rewind to McCain, rewind to Romney.

00:11:19.000 They said that, they said it's over, you have to get out and vote, and then guess what they all did?

00:11:22.000 They take their two-week vacation, they come back and say, well, we can still win this, let's get in this fight, and they fight in local political races, because they need you to keep listening.

00:11:30.000 I'm here for after the election right now.

00:11:32.000 I'm telling you, it's not just about the election.

00:11:34.000 You need to vote, you should vote.

00:11:36.000 You should vote your way.

00:11:38.000 Not my way, not Jared's way.

00:11:39.000 Your way.

00:11:40.000 But there's a lot more we can do afterward.

00:11:42.000 And I'm going to tell you that the country is not over.

00:11:44.000 It doesn't hinge only on this.

00:11:45.000 And there's more that we can all do than vote.

00:11:47.000 And let me explain to you the problem with media in 2016 that we need to change right after this break!

00:11:52.000 mustache.

00:11:53.000 This is Clever Comebacks with Bill Clinton.

00:12:09.000 . . you And that is why my wife will be the first to say that you're a serial rapist?

00:12:17.000 Yeah.

00:12:20.000 Yeah.

00:12:22.000 This has been Clever Comebacks with Bill Clinton.

00:12:26.000 Hey Jared, what are you doing?

00:12:35.000 Shooting bad guys.

00:12:37.000 With what?

00:12:37.000 By AR-15.

00:12:38.000 Where'd you get it?

00:12:39.000 AR-15.com.

00:12:41.000 Enunciate it more clearly so our audience can hear.

00:12:44.000 AR-15.com.

00:12:46.000 That's better.

00:12:47.000 They sell guns now?

00:12:48.000 Yeah, they do.

00:12:49.000 Are they any good?

00:12:50.000 They're the best.

00:12:51.000 Where from?

00:12:52.000 AR-15.com.

00:12:53.000 Kapoor!

00:12:54.000 You really make that sound?

00:12:56.000 Didn't have the budget for sound effects.

00:12:57.000 Kaboow!

00:12:58.000 Kaboow!

00:12:59.000 Oh, there's another one!

00:13:00.000 Kaboow!

00:13:01.000 You shot him!

00:13:02.000 With what?

00:13:03.000 By AR-15!

00:13:04.000 From where?

00:13:05.000 AR-15.com.

00:13:06.000 Hey, how do you know they're bad guys?

00:13:08.000 They're birds and burkas.

00:13:09.000 Kaboow!

00:13:10.000 That's racist!

00:13:11.000 That's racist!

00:13:41.000 Glad to be back.

00:13:46.000 Dressed, of course.

00:13:47.000 Yes.

00:13:49.000 Your dancing is just appalling, by the way.

00:13:51.000 My dancing is appalling.

00:13:51.000 It's gotten worse.

00:13:52.000 As Ken Bone, the world hero.

00:13:54.000 Hero after the debate.

00:13:56.000 Let me get into media here.

00:13:58.000 And this is a problem that I have right now.

00:14:00.000 I think this is important.

00:14:00.000 Everything that's wrong with media in 2016, and I think everyone will understand there's a kernel of truth here, at least in your own life.

00:14:06.000 This is the first election.

00:14:08.000 Here...

00:14:09.000 Are some polls rigged?

00:14:10.000 Yeah.

00:14:11.000 The RCP average has been remarkably accurate.

00:14:13.000 As a matter of fact, overly generous to Romney and McCain.

00:14:17.000 Particularly Rasmussen and LA Times, there are polls that are skewed right, there are polls that are skewed left.

00:14:20.000 However, the cumulative of all the polls has always been overall right.

00:14:27.000 The last few years.

00:14:28.000 Could be wrong.

00:14:29.000 But I'm not going to lie to you and say that it's likely.

00:14:31.000 There's no proof that it's likely yet.

00:14:32.000 There is no proof that all the polls are oversampling at a plus 15 Democrats.

00:14:36.000 That's not true.

00:14:37.000 The polls right now show that Donald Trump is very behind.

00:14:40.000 Hillary Clinton is starting with about 260 electoral votes.

00:14:43.000 And she needs one or two major states.

00:14:45.000 Trump needs a clean sweep.

00:14:46.000 It could happen.

00:14:48.000 It's probably not likely.

00:14:49.000 Now, why do I tell you that?

00:14:52.000 What's going on?

00:14:53.000 I'm sorry.

00:14:55.000 Hey.

00:14:56.000 Hey, Dean.

00:14:57.000 Jared, what's up, brother?

00:14:59.000 Great time last night.

00:15:01.000 That was a lot of fun.

00:15:02.000 Yeah, we just talked last night.

00:15:05.000 Hold on one sec.

00:15:07.000 This is fresh on my mind.

00:15:08.000 I want to say it now.

00:15:09.000 I had so many ideas.

00:15:10.000 Well, I was thinking all night after we talked and everything last night, and I literally have a whole sheet, a list of ideas and stuff for you guys daily.

00:15:20.000 Why would you?

00:15:24.000 I mean, we talk sometimes.

00:15:26.000 We don't want people to just move on.

00:15:27.000 We don't want people to talk about it.

00:15:28.000 So let's talk about media here.

00:15:31.000 This is the first election, where when you said, oh man, Romney is not looking great in the polls, no one said, screw you!

00:15:37.000 You work for Obama!

00:15:38.000 Or McCain, or with Bush.

00:15:40.000 If you said, man, it doesn't look good right now, let's go out, let's canvas, let's help, let's campaign more.

00:15:43.000 People didn't get mad at you for citing a fact.

00:15:46.000 Let me explain to you why that is.

00:15:48.000 It's a phenomenon here with social media.

00:15:49.000 We thought when we got rid of the mainstream media sort of gatekeepers that all of a sudden truth would be available and we'd be able to get our information unfiltered.

00:15:57.000 Instead, we've replaced it with social media corporate overlords who are actually your portal to the internet.

00:16:03.000 And even though they lean left, they have an incentive to only tell you what you want to hear.

00:16:07.000 So do websites.

00:16:09.000 Let me give you an example.

00:16:10.000 You go on, you like content that's pro Donald Trump or pro Hillary Clinton, depending where you line up.

00:16:15.000 It says you may also like, right?

00:16:17.000 The algorithm is not based on any of these sites, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.

00:16:22.000 It's not you may also need to hear.

00:16:24.000 You may also need to brush up on.

00:16:26.000 It's you may also like.

00:16:27.000 And so when people go out there and they brag about their numbers and they say, we're doing so great because we're supporting Donald Trump.

00:16:34.000 Well, you want to know who has more numbers, more reach, more traffic than all political sites, all news sites combined?

00:16:39.000 Porn. Kim Kardashian.

00:16:41.000 One Kardashian.

00:16:42.000 Because people love boobs and butts.

00:16:44.000 They love big asses.

00:16:45.000 They love porn.

00:16:46.000 They love naked ladies.

00:16:47.000 So guess what?

00:16:47.000 You can make more clicks.

00:16:48.000 Doesn't mean it's what they need.

00:16:50.000 Doesn't mean it's helpful.

00:16:51.000 In the same bet, you can bet on people who love Donald Trump.

00:16:56.000 They're going to want to read Hillary's corrupt, the email scandal, Hillary sucks.

00:16:59.000 Bill's a rapist.

00:17:00.000 Anything critical of Trump?

00:17:01.000 No, no, no.

00:17:02.000 You're not going to like, you're not going to share.

00:17:03.000 People who love Hillary.

00:17:04.000 Donald Trump's a sexual assaulter.

00:17:06.000 Donald Trump's a pedophile.

00:17:07.000 Donald Trump's corrupt.

00:17:08.000 Let me give you an example.

00:17:09.000 A tale of two people.

00:17:10.000 A mom.

00:17:10.000 She logs onto Facebook for the first time.

00:17:12.000 She creates a profile this election.

00:17:13.000 Her daughter goes to college.

00:17:15.000 Daughter's Hillary.

00:17:16.000 Mom is Trump.

00:17:16.000 Mom goes on, likes Trump's page.

00:17:19.000 Make America Great Again.

00:17:20.000 Like, we're winning in the polls.

00:17:22.000 Like, Hillary Clinton's corrupt.

00:17:23.000 Like, WikiLeaks.

00:17:25.000 Like, the girl from college.

00:17:26.000 Pro-Hillary.

00:17:26.000 She likes Hillary's page.

00:17:28.000 Donald Trump is not releasing his tax returns.

00:17:30.000 Like, Donald Trump is a racist.

00:17:31.000 Like, Donald Trump is a rapist.

00:17:34.000 Like, and guess what?

00:17:35.000 This goes on for a few months.

00:17:36.000 Eventually you go an entire six months, year, two years, without ever having read, once, a different opinion.

00:17:43.000 Even if you know it's true.

00:17:44.000 Even the woman who's on a pro-Trump page where it says, oh my gosh, it looks like he's down, Pennsylvania is no longer a toss-up.

00:17:50.000 Not like, downvote, click, not share.

00:17:52.000 So you never see it.

00:17:53.000 So you only read the pro-Trump stuff, and she's only reading the pro-Hillary stuff.

00:17:57.000 To the point where you couldn't be less informed.

00:18:00.000 And the people who are creating these news stories are incentivized no longer to tell you the truth, but they are actually beholden.

00:18:06.000 100%.

00:18:07.000 The only way they survive is by creating content that you want to hear.

00:18:11.000 If they create any content that's important and truthful that you don't want to hear, they don't show it to you because it doesn't get a like, it doesn't get an upvote, it doesn't get a click, and so they lie to you.

00:18:21.000 And that's a real problem on either side.

00:18:23.000 And that's why there's this divide, and that's why people are really uninformed of other arguments.

00:18:27.000 And that's why when Rush Limbaugh says, don't pay attention to the polls, you will never hear this program.

00:18:30.000 Ever.

00:18:31.000 How many times have I said, set Huffington Post, setsalon.com, to some of your favorites.

00:18:37.000 You'll never hear me try and encourage you to limit information.

00:18:39.000 Let me give you some examples with our own pages.

00:18:40.000 This is a struggle that we've had.

00:18:42.000 If we post anything critical on our page, anything critical on our website, we do many, many millions of viewers, we're incredibly grateful, and we have the luxury of being able to be truthful.

00:18:52.000 So let's get this up.

00:18:53.000 If we put up a post right here where Donald Trump said he was going to sue the press over negative coverage, this only got about 136,000 reach on Facebook, right?

00:19:02.000 Because it wasn't super pro-Trump, because we didn't like that he was going after the First Amendment.

00:19:07.000 Now, If you look at the comments on that, too, right away, people comment on it, and they say, I can't believe that you would say this.

00:19:13.000 They're furious.

00:19:14.000 Do we have the comments, Naki, Jared?

00:19:15.000 No, no.

00:19:15.000 Oh, we don't have the comments.

00:19:16.000 Okay, well, let's contrast it with the Hillary post that we have.

00:19:19.000 Contrast that with the Hillary post.

00:19:21.000 Take it from about the same simple time.

00:19:22.000 Putting working class people out of work.

00:19:25.000 462,000 reach.

00:19:26.000 Let's do the other one, the Second Amendment one.

00:19:27.000 How many of these do we have?

00:19:28.000 Two.

00:19:28.000 Okay, here's two.

00:19:29.000 Donald Trump wants to ban Americans from buying guns.

00:19:31.000 We put it up.

00:19:31.000 Only a 400,000 people reach.

00:19:33.000 People got really mad.

00:19:34.000 Show the comments, Naki, Jared.

00:19:35.000 They said, how dare you?

00:19:36.000 This is brainwashed.

00:19:37.000 Why are you reporting this?

00:19:39.000 You need to support Trump.

00:19:40.000 Same story, Hillary.

00:19:42.000 Anti-gun.

00:19:43.000 785,000 reach.

00:19:44.000 Every single person likes it.

00:19:46.000 Same audience.

00:19:47.000 Same issue.

00:19:49.000 Show them another meme on a Hillary reach right here.

00:19:51.000 A meme that is truthful.

00:19:52.000 These are posts that are anti-Hillary Clinton.

00:19:55.000 Over 2 million reach.

00:19:56.000 Over 6 million reach on our paltry little Facebook page.

00:20:00.000 What does that tell you?

00:20:00.000 Now here's the deal.

00:20:01.000 Is that great for us?

00:20:02.000 Red meat lines?

00:20:03.000 Of course.

00:20:04.000 Those are our biggest trafficked pieces.

00:20:06.000 And when Hillary Clinton lied about pneumonia, we covered it.

00:20:08.000 But we didn't lie to you, which we knew would have generated way more traffic with the Parkinson's, which everyone knows is not true now because she doesn't have Parkinson's, but you've forgotten about it and moved it on to the next scandal.

00:20:17.000 We didn't lie to you for more clicks.

00:20:19.000 We could lie to you and tell you a bunch of falsehoods about Hillary and a bunch of falsehoods about Donald Trump, wherever you line up, and ensure that we get more traffic and clicks and we're more profitable by keeping you in the dark.

00:20:31.000 Not only could we do it if we wanted to grow, if we wanted to work in the social media environment right now, it's what people have to do.

00:20:39.000 So it is your job to inform yourself on both sides and not get offended when someone comes up with facts.

00:20:43.000 And what I want you to do is not only with this election, but win, lose, or draw, understand and look back The guys who are comedians who play spot the tranny and later tonight will play hipster or hobo with Nick DiPaolo, gosh, they didn't lie to us.

00:20:55.000 They were pretty consistent.

00:20:57.000 We're looking beyond not just this election.

00:20:59.000 And just be aware of how you're being marketed to and what you're being fed, regardless of political agenda.

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00:22:43.000 I'm back.

00:23:02.000 Glad to be back as we get this show on the road.

00:23:04.000 We have, of course, one of our favorite guests, Gavin McInnes of compoundmedia.com, where you can go find him, and author.

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00:23:23.000 It is.

00:23:23.000 Gentlemen, thank you for being here.

00:23:25.000 Thanks for having us.

00:23:26.000 I can't speak on behalf of Andrew, but thanks for having me.

00:23:31.000 Thanks for having him as well.

00:23:32.000 Yes, they're very nice.

00:23:34.000 I assume that neither of you are grateful to be on this show with the mammoth reach.

00:23:39.000 Mark them down under the ungrateful list, Jared.

00:23:41.000 So, the reason I wanted to bring you both on is because we've talked about that Gavin is very pro-Trump.

00:23:46.000 But he was also a cruise guy.

00:23:48.000 He wanted to cruise in the Supreme Court, so he's one of the few people I know on the Trump side who doesn't hate everybody else.

00:23:52.000 Andrew Klavan has had a lot to say about Trump, critically, but also isn't in the Never Trump camp.

00:23:59.000 Do I have those assessments right?

00:24:00.000 I don't want to misrepresent you.

00:24:02.000 Yes.

00:24:03.000 Okay, good.

00:24:04.000 Because I was saying, as we were talking about during the break, Twitter isn't real life, and it seems online people, a lot of the Trump people, they hate everyone who isn't on the Trump train, and then you have the never-Trumpers, whereas I don't meet any of those people in real life.

00:24:16.000 Almost everyone I meet in real life isn't really enthusiastic about Trump, but they'll pull the lever anyway, and they're said that these are our two options.

00:24:24.000 Have you noticed that discrepancy between online and real life?

00:24:27.000 I've definitely noticed that that is true of millennials.

00:24:33.000 Twitter and social media are millennial fields, and millennials tend to talk like idiots.

00:24:38.000 I'm sure we talked that dumb when we were 19, 20, 21, and guys our age aren't used to speaking to people that young, so it's confusing.

00:24:45.000 But one thing I have noticed is that liberals...

00:24:47.000 Online are exactly as dumb in real life.

00:24:51.000 They take all these Trump things totally seriously, like the latest controversy with the pussy thing.

00:24:58.000 My liberal friends, and many of them are ex-friends since this, honestly believe That he thinks it's okay to go and grab women's pussies.

00:25:07.000 And also, since the debate, they think that Trump wants to jail his political adversaries, a la Lenin-Stalin.

00:25:14.000 Okay, well, we'll get to that in a second, the current controversy.

00:25:17.000 I wanted to throw it out generally.

00:25:18.000 So, Clavin, discrepancy between real life and online first.

00:25:21.000 Well, the thing that has happened online, and I think this is because you don't see the person on the other end, is nobody can say anything in a civilized manner.

00:25:30.000 You know, I mean, you talk about, you'll go on and you'll say, yeah, I saw this movie, I thought it was great.

00:25:34.000 The comment will be, you're an idiot!

00:25:36.000 You're a pansy.

00:25:37.000 You thought that movie was great.

00:25:38.000 And you think, like, I'm talking about a movie, you know?

00:25:41.000 You would, you filthy Jew!

00:25:44.000 I know, I know.

00:25:46.000 And I just have a feeling they don't see the person on the other side.

00:25:49.000 So it's like that test where you press the button and you hear a scream over there, but you can't see him, and you keep pressing the button until the guy is dead.

00:25:57.000 Everything is amped up to this other level, and it's just not the way people should talk to each other, although I wonder if maybe it's teaching people to talk to them.

00:26:04.000 It's a good point.

00:26:05.000 Actually, Milo wrote a piece about how he thought maybe the internet needed to be censored or regulated because he thought conversation was getting a little too vitriolic a long time ago before he became the guy who supports free speech.

00:26:17.000 Of course, I like new Milo much better.

00:26:19.000 I think you're right.

00:26:21.000 It's a funny little known fact.

00:26:22.000 You know the warning sound?

00:26:24.000 Ah!

00:26:25.000 Like tornado warnings that you hear that are FCC regulated.

00:26:28.000 We were looking for that sound on YouTube.

00:26:30.000 So just a video of that sound on YouTube, just like, tones, had like 2,000 dislikes.

00:26:36.000 Who goes on there to dislike that sound?

00:26:39.000 People are!

00:26:40.000 And you probably met this person in real life and didn't know he was giving you coffee.

00:26:45.000 So, do you think, though, I definitely noticed that it is way worse right now in the Trump camp.

00:26:51.000 Gavin, you know, I had Ben on that week, you on that one week, and I was saying, Gavin, the reason I want you on is because Trump fans are the worst people at making the case.

00:26:58.000 As a matter of fact, Trump fans turn off a lot of people who would vote for Trump, not putting you in that camp.

00:27:02.000 Do we think that right now, if you see it with the GOP, because this whole...

00:27:07.000 Do we think the Trump camp right now is a little more insular considering that they're denying the statistical reality of the polls regardless of opinions?

00:27:13.000 They seem to get mad at facts right now regarding the state of this race.

00:27:17.000 Gavin, you can go first.

00:27:18.000 I believe that we're talking about two groups here.

00:27:21.000 There's the middle American Trump fan, the Housewives and the working men, and I don't think they've really changed that much since the beginning of the election.

00:27:28.000 There is some bizarre vitriol coming from the alt-right and the far-right, and I just don't trust the sources.

00:27:36.000 I think a lot of these people are spies.

00:27:39.000 I think a lot of them are plants.

00:27:41.000 If you have a fake name and your avatar is a knight, I don't trust you.

00:27:46.000 What if it's a frog?

00:27:47.000 And I know that sounds Alex Jones.

00:27:49.000 Yeah, they're working for the government.

00:27:51.000 They're sending out spies.

00:27:52.000 But I come from Canada where the entire Nazi movement was created by the Canadian CIA. We had...

00:28:02.000 What was his name?

00:28:03.000 David Weigand.

00:28:05.000 And another guy who, they didn't have enough Nazis, so they just created them out of thin air so they could have a task force to fight.

00:28:12.000 So I think there is a lot of weird freaks supporting Trump on the far right, but a lot of them don't exist.

00:28:18.000 Klavan?

00:28:19.000 I think this has come down from the left to us.

00:28:23.000 My biggest problem, one of my biggest problems with Trump is that he is what the left always said we were.

00:28:29.000 You know, he's bigoted, he's grotesque, he's all those things that they always said we were, and we weren't.

00:28:34.000 But the left has been saying stuff about this from the top down, from Obama down.

00:28:40.000 Our nutcases on the right talk like this.

00:28:42.000 Our crazy people on the right, they do talk like this.

00:28:45.000 But Obama calls his opponents terrorists.

00:28:47.000 You know, Clinton calls them deplorables.

00:28:50.000 They've been saying stuff like this about us for years at the highest level.

00:28:53.000 And now they're insulted because our nutbags talk like they're presidents.

00:28:58.000 But Andrew, what...

00:29:00.000 What Trump is saying is he's saying, you want to call me that?

00:29:03.000 You want to call me racist, bigot?

00:29:04.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:29:05.000 Like, remember when he got in trouble for not using the right term for anchor baby?

00:29:08.000 And he goes, what do you want me to say?

00:29:10.000 And they came up with this big long thing.

00:29:11.000 He goes, no, I'm not doing that.

00:29:12.000 I'm saying anchor baby.

00:29:13.000 So rather than saying I'm going to be, you know, an obtuse maniac.

00:29:17.000 He's really just saying, I'm going to relax and talk the way everyone talks.

00:29:21.000 I don't find him that offensive.

00:29:22.000 I don't think Klavan is talking about anchor baby or illegal immigrants.

00:29:25.000 I do think the hot mic moment is a look.

00:29:27.000 If people say he talks from the heart, well, that's a talk from the heart.

00:29:30.000 And here's the one thing I do want to preface this and let you guys go.

00:29:32.000 Are we quoting a hot mic?

00:29:33.000 Yeah, my point is this.

00:29:34.000 People say he talks from the heart, right?

00:29:36.000 Well, that's a double-edged sword.

00:29:37.000 That is true.

00:29:38.000 That is kind of a checkmate from the left right now.

00:29:39.000 I go, well, okay.

00:29:40.000 You say it's a joke, but you love them because he talks from the heart.

00:29:43.000 It's not that he used the word pussy, which we, unfortunately, are talking about the presidential race now with the FCC, where this goes out syndicated.

00:29:49.000 Jared, you have your work cut out for you.

00:29:51.000 It's that, you know, we talked about this earlier.

00:29:54.000 Nice tits.

00:29:55.000 I'm cleaning it up.

00:29:56.000 This is cleaning it up from a presidential candidate.

00:29:57.000 No one cares.

00:29:58.000 But if you say, that Mary Broad had great tits and I grabbed him even though she didn't say she wanted me to, I grabbed that Mary Broad's tits.

00:30:03.000 That context is different.

00:30:05.000 And my only thing is this.

00:30:06.000 Trump on policy, better than Hillary Clinton, sure.

00:30:08.000 But let's acknowledge that neither are good people, personally.

00:30:13.000 The thing is, there are two things you can't confuse.

00:30:16.000 One is, you know, let's call it good Trump.

00:30:19.000 Trump at the debate when that Muslim woman stood up and said, what are you going to do about Islamophobia?

00:30:25.000 I felt like, Islamophobia?

00:30:26.000 What about Islamic people killing people all over the place?

00:30:28.000 And Trump is too dopey to understand that that's the moment when he's supposed to get all sentimental about the beautiful Islamic religion, and he just told it to her like it was.

00:30:38.000 That's good Trump, and we all love that Trump.

00:30:40.000 We love it when he says the press is corrupt.

00:30:43.000 I mean, the press in this country is so corrupt, such Democrat acts, that when he says that stuff, it's great.

00:30:48.000 Then there's the Trump who tells Ted Cruz that his dad killed Kennedy.

00:30:52.000 Then there's the Trump who really just comes across as like an ignoramus.

00:30:58.000 And it's that guy that I'm bothered by.

00:31:01.000 I have to be honest, on the sex tape, I don't care.

00:31:03.000 The guy already admitted in his books he bragged about committing adultery.

00:31:07.000 He's an adulterer.

00:31:08.000 Right.

00:31:09.000 Do I disdain adultery?

00:31:11.000 Yeah, but it's none of my business.

00:31:12.000 The people who are married to him are not married to him.

00:31:15.000 This is not a country where they're married to him by demand.

00:31:18.000 They're married to him by choice.

00:31:19.000 He brags about it in his books.

00:31:21.000 So now he says it behind the scenes and he says it using foul language.

00:31:24.000 What's that to me?

00:31:25.000 It doesn't mean a thing to me.

00:31:26.000 Right.

00:31:26.000 I want to give it to Gavin.

00:31:27.000 I will say the one thing with the Breitbart standard with Anthony Weiner, it is an incredible liability.

00:31:31.000 Right now, it's because of a gag order from Mark Burnett that these tapes from The Celebrity Apprentice aren't coming out.

00:31:36.000 Breitbart was mad about Anthony Weiner because people could blackmail a sitting U.S. senator over these pictures.

00:31:42.000 Obviously, that could happen with Donald Trump in the most powerful office in the land, and there's more ammo.

00:31:46.000 Personally, yeah, we may not care.

00:31:48.000 But it is a liability for the taxpayer if this guy has leverage on him.

00:31:52.000 Gavin, what Andrew just said...

00:31:54.000 Where do you agree, disagree on that?

00:31:56.000 Because he gave it to you.

00:31:57.000 I think we all like when he talks about Islam and illegal immigrants and calls that like it is.

00:32:01.000 I don't think anyone here disagrees with that.

00:32:02.000 Yeah, the comment about Ted Cruz's father wasn't great.

00:32:06.000 I didn't like that he insulted Cruz's wife.

00:32:08.000 I didn't like where he talked about the First Amendment and how he's going to be stricter about free speech.

00:32:13.000 But regarding that latter one, he was being framed.

00:32:17.000 Journalists were lying about his campaign.

00:32:20.000 Lying about who showed up.

00:32:22.000 Lying about what he had said.

00:32:23.000 And we keep seeing that, by the way, with the media throughout this campaign.

00:32:27.000 By the way, he didn't say, I grabbed their pussy.

00:32:29.000 He said, you could do anything.

00:32:30.000 No, but he said, I tried to F her.

00:32:32.000 She was married.

00:32:32.000 We don't know how much he was joking.

00:32:33.000 I don't want to parse a private conversation.

00:32:35.000 No, but Gavin, let me say one thing.

00:32:36.000 I think you sound like a virgin when you're shocked by it.

00:32:39.000 No, no, Gavin, Gavin, Gavin.

00:32:40.000 Let me ask you this.

00:32:41.000 Point blank.

00:32:41.000 Have you ever cheated on your wife?

00:32:44.000 I know you haven't.

00:32:45.000 You know why, Gavin?

00:32:46.000 I didn't say I had if I was being recorded.

00:32:47.000 No, but Gavin, I know you haven't because I've had conversations off air.

00:32:50.000 You're sailing with your proud boys.

00:32:52.000 Oh, great.

00:32:52.000 So now I know you'll rat me out if I did.

00:32:53.000 No, I'm saying that you haven't.

00:32:54.000 My point is this.

00:32:55.000 I know that you really care about your wife, your marriage, and I know you have respect for people who do.

00:33:00.000 All I'm saying is I think you should apply that standard across the border.

00:33:03.000 I know it matters to you.

00:33:04.000 We're not electing a friend, okay?

00:33:05.000 We're not electing someone that we can go and go camping with.

00:33:09.000 We're electing someone who is going to do as little as possible, as far as I'm concerned, in metal.

00:33:14.000 I don't want him buying Solyndra.

00:33:15.000 I don't want him forcing a healthcare program at gunpoint.

00:33:18.000 I don't want him going to our enemies and doing nuclear deals with them so he can look good and he's showboating for his Muslim friends.

00:33:25.000 I don't want any of that.

00:33:27.000 But the reason I think that Trump is so important right now is because we're living in a real era of shame.

00:33:33.000 We're living in a culture that's anti-masculine.

00:33:36.000 We're living in a culture where we're ashamed of being patriotic.

00:33:39.000 We're changing the name of Columbus Day.

00:33:41.000 And what Trump is saying with the Make America Great Again is, make America proud to be great again.

00:33:46.000 We know we're great, but all this capitulation and shame, and how many genders do you want me to say?

00:33:52.000 It really is our death knell.

00:33:54.000 And the fact that he's turning that around means I can forgive a lot more stuff, because as Breitbart pointed out, The politics is downstream from the culture and right now the culture is all about Let's be honest, women getting whatever they want.

00:34:08.000 Oh gosh, you got a lot of mail from that last one.

00:34:10.000 You know, I disagree.

00:34:11.000 I really do.

00:34:12.000 I think, I would love to see a candidate do that, and I thought he was on track to do it.

00:34:16.000 And genuinely, if people disagree, and I'll toss it to Cleveland and Gavin, a guy who did this, a guy who had this tape, which sounds really bad, we on the locker room talk, we don't talk about grabbing women by the pussy or cheating on our wives if we don't do it.

00:34:28.000 Guys don't brag about that if they don't do it.

00:34:30.000 Typically, not the guys I know.

00:34:31.000 That's not true at all, Stephen.

00:34:32.000 It's called a joke.

00:34:34.000 It's called riffing with a dude.

00:34:35.000 I tried to fuck her.

00:34:37.000 She was married.

00:34:38.000 I've never met a guy who jokes that way.

00:34:39.000 But maybe, let's say it is.

00:34:40.000 My point is this.

00:34:41.000 The Gender Studies 101, Rape Culture 101, will be a mandatory course because I'll say, look, it comes from the top down, and point to President Trump.

00:34:50.000 And I think he could empower them, which I would hate to see.

00:34:53.000 I think that they will feel emboldened with a President Trump, just like they did under President Bush.

00:34:58.000 Gavin, I'll let you respond, and then Klavan, you can go.

00:35:00.000 Do you think there's a possibility of that?

00:35:01.000 Okay, look at Title IX. Title IX is the government saying, all right, here's a bunch of money to find rapists at your college.

00:35:08.000 So what they do is they end up incentivizing rape as a phenomenon.

00:35:12.000 Now that you've done that, the colleges go, well, I better go dig up some rapists.

00:35:17.000 Too bad there aren't any.

00:35:18.000 I know, I'll change the definition to be anything you regret.

00:35:20.000 So now we have lives being ruined.

00:35:23.000 We have these kids committing suicide.

00:35:25.000 They've been accused of rape.

00:35:26.000 We've created this whole fear culture.

00:35:29.000 We've ruined sex.

00:35:29.000 Okay, but I've got to go to Klavan.

00:35:31.000 Can you answer that question?

00:35:31.000 Do you think there's a possibility that he empowers those people?

00:35:34.000 No, you've been talking for longer than Klavan.

00:35:37.000 My point is that in Obama's America, he has that incentivized.

00:35:41.000 In Trump's America, they'll go, we need your Title IX money, and Trump's going to go, no, we're not doing that.

00:35:45.000 That's a waste of money.

00:35:46.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter.

00:35:46.000 I think the universities will do it anyway.

00:35:48.000 Klavan, do you think there's a risk of that?

00:35:50.000 Of people overreacting to Trump, you mean?

00:35:52.000 Of people using it to say, see rape culture in the United States, and it emboldening these people more.

00:35:57.000 Of course, but they're going to do it anyway.

00:35:59.000 I mean, here's the thing.

00:36:00.000 Everything the left does, the thing that's so tricky about talking about the left, is that everything that it does has this little germ of truth, which they use to extend past the point of sensibility.

00:36:11.000 Everybody believes in good air and good water and conserving things, but they make it so that you can't budge.

00:36:17.000 You know, you can't get the oil and the energy out of the ground because they're shutting down your homes.

00:36:21.000 Hold that thought.

00:36:22.000 We have to go to a break.

00:36:23.000 I agree with you.

00:36:24.000 We all want you to stop littering so much, but I'm going to drive a Jeep.

00:36:27.000 That's kind of how I think we could crystallize that.

00:36:30.000 Gavin McInnes and Andrew Klavan will continue this discussion after the break.

00:36:32.000 My mustache is falling off.

00:36:34.000 And now for the man who captured America's hearts.

00:36:48.000 These are the Adventures of Cam Boon.

00:36:53.000 The Adventures of Cam Boon Hey, sweetheart!

00:37:00.000 I'm home!

00:37:01.000 Oh, how'd it go?

00:37:02.000 Oh, it just went fantastic.

00:37:04.000 I asked my question, and it was really great.

00:37:07.000 I'm glad I made the drive.

00:37:08.000 Okay.

00:37:10.000 Oh, that sounds great, sweetheart.

00:37:11.000 I'm starved.

00:37:12.000 I'm just going to go on down to the darkroom to get started on the photos from this disposable camera.

00:37:17.000 Call me up when it's ready!

00:37:18.000 Have fun.

00:37:20.000 Hey.

00:37:32.000 Shh!

00:37:35.000 You talked about this with Kenny here, right?

00:37:38.000 I'm going to take off that ball gag, but if you make a sound, I'll destroy everything you hold dear.

00:37:46.000 Are you ready to play nice?

00:37:48.000 You're a monster.

00:37:54.000 Hey, hey now!

00:37:56.000 There's no need for name calling.

00:37:59.000 We're all friends here.

00:38:02.000 I'd never be friends with you, you sicko!

00:38:04.000 It's a shame you feel that way, because I really wanted us to go down the path of friendship.

00:38:10.000 Hey, let me bring this up here.

00:38:11.000 See that?

00:38:13.000 It's a nice picture of your daughter, don't you think?

00:38:16.000 No.

00:38:17.000 What do you do, you freak?

00:38:19.000 I think I'm going to have to pay her a visit.

00:38:21.000 No!

00:38:24.000 Coming on up, sweetie!

00:38:27.000 Oh, you make the best mac and cheese?

00:38:33.000 Stay tuned for more of America's Sweetheart, The Adventures of Can-Boom.

00:38:40.000 When it's time to party, we will party hard.

00:38:49.000 We'll be right back.

00:39:13.000 Alright, we are back.

00:39:15.000 Compoundmedia.com, Gavin McInnes.

00:39:16.000 Go check out his podcast.

00:39:17.000 Highly recommend it.

00:39:18.000 It's good stuff!

00:39:19.000 And then author of The Great Good Thing, available on Amazon, audiobook, Andrew Klavan.

00:39:24.000 Gentlemen, thank you for being back.

00:39:25.000 Before we get back into that, real quick, so I can give you both equal time, gun to your head who wins this election, Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton?

00:39:32.000 Wait a minute!

00:39:32.000 I want to get back to what Andrew was just saying about the environment.

00:39:35.000 Who wins, Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, if you have to guess?

00:39:39.000 Trump.

00:39:40.000 Clavin?

00:39:41.000 Yeah, Clinton, if I had to guess.

00:39:43.000 Okay, alright.

00:39:45.000 Clavin, were you done surmising that point before Gavin interrupts you again?

00:39:48.000 No, I did want to make the point that...

00:39:53.000 Because the left always says something that has some inherent truth.

00:39:56.000 You know, you want to treat women with respect, and then they turn this into, you know, if you look at them the wrong way, you're a rapist.

00:40:02.000 If you act like a normal man, you're turning them into objects and all this stuff.

00:40:07.000 They make everything insane.

00:40:08.000 The problem with Trump is that he violates political correctness, but he also sometimes violates normal decency.

00:40:15.000 It's maybe not such a good idea to say that an American guy can't be a good judge because he's a Mexican.

00:40:22.000 Unless you've got something on him, and then I'm fine with it.

00:40:25.000 If you can say, oh yeah, he's La Raza, sure, go ahead.

00:40:28.000 But I'm just saying that what Trump does is he validates the worst extremism of the left by stepping over the line.

00:40:39.000 So it is a problem.

00:40:41.000 You know, it is a problem when you argue with people and you call them fat pigs.

00:40:45.000 Like we were saying, it's for children to talk like that to each other.

00:40:49.000 It's not for adults.

00:40:51.000 It's for this show, not the office.

00:40:54.000 She is a fat pig.

00:40:54.000 I come here to talk like that.

00:40:56.000 Yes.

00:40:57.000 Yeah, I agree with Gavin on that.

00:40:58.000 Rosie O'Donnell is a fat pig.

00:41:00.000 And as far as the environmentalism goes, I love that you brought that up because that's what a matriarchy does.

00:41:08.000 They say, we want to stop the environmental pollution.

00:41:10.000 And when we hand them the reins, when we give them the keys to the city, we go, all right, what do you got?

00:41:15.000 And they go, well, we want to find alternative energy.

00:41:17.000 No blood for oil.

00:41:19.000 And we go, okay, what about this, fracking?

00:41:21.000 And they go, no, it might damage the water supply.

00:41:24.000 And that's when I realized, wait a minute.

00:41:26.000 You don't want to drive.

00:41:28.000 You don't know how to drive.

00:41:29.000 You just like bitching.

00:41:30.000 Tell you what, we're going to continue with the patriarchy.

00:41:33.000 Trump's going to be handling this from now on, because every time I hand you the talking stick, matriarchy, you go...

00:41:39.000 You don't know what you want.

00:41:41.000 Look, I think we can all agree that giving women the vote was a big mistake.

00:41:45.000 I think we can all get on the basic idea that giving women the vote was a big mistake.

00:41:50.000 That's true.

00:41:51.000 Most women didn't want to vote because they knew it.

00:41:53.000 I mean, they should be allowed legally, but should they?

00:42:02.000 That's weak.

00:42:04.000 Yeah, I think it's cuck-worthy.

00:42:07.000 Once you say they should have it legally, you know what women don't like.

00:42:12.000 Have you seen the maps that came out yesterday?

00:42:15.000 I did.

00:42:17.000 But you know what?

00:42:18.000 I will tell you this.

00:42:19.000 My family...

00:42:21.000 All of whom are women, conservatives, they were turned off by Trump with that.

00:42:26.000 They voted Republican in every election.

00:42:27.000 So, we have to be honest, it's exclusive to him with even conservative women.

00:42:31.000 That's never happened before.

00:42:31.000 That's bad!

00:42:32.000 I'm telling you, this is going to...

00:42:34.000 The media does this thing.

00:42:36.000 Look, this election is not about whether Donald Trump is a bad person.

00:42:39.000 He is a bad person.

00:42:40.000 Hillary Clinton, probably a worse person.

00:42:42.000 They're two really awful people, I think.

00:42:45.000 I think they really are.

00:42:46.000 It really says something about this country that out of 300 million people, we came up with these two people to lead the country.

00:42:52.000 That's bad news.

00:42:53.000 But the press always tries to make this a good guy, bad guy thing.

00:42:56.000 They're smart that way.

00:42:57.000 The press are Democrat hacks, and they try to make this an issue of good guys versus bad guys.

00:43:02.000 They did it with Mitt Romney, a very decent man.

00:43:05.000 Oh, he put his dog on a car.

00:43:07.000 Oh, he bullied somebody in high school.

00:43:10.000 They try to make the narrative about good guys and bad guys.

00:43:13.000 It's kind of clarifying to have them both be such skunks, because now we should know that it's never about that.

00:43:19.000 It's never about whether they're good guys or bad guys.

00:43:21.000 It's never about whether they're nice to women.

00:43:24.000 It's about what they're going to do in office.

00:43:26.000 That's the only interchange we're going to have.

00:43:29.000 They're not my daddy.

00:43:30.000 They're not my mommy.

00:43:31.000 They're not my pal.

00:43:31.000 They're the president.

00:43:32.000 They're the CEO of the company.

00:43:34.000 Do their job.

00:43:35.000 The press always distracts us from that for the simple reason that leftism doesn't work.

00:43:39.000 I think you're right, and I'll toss this to Gavin.

00:43:41.000 I think you're right.

00:43:41.000 I think the right has played into it, though, because of their hatred of Hillary Clinton.

00:43:44.000 They've been attacking Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton as the bad people, the sexual harassers.

00:43:48.000 And my point is this.

00:43:48.000 Either none of it's okay, like you said, they're both bad people, or all of it's okay, and you have to acknowledge all of it, all of their indiscretions.

00:43:55.000 What I have a problem with is saying, well, Clinton covered up these sexual assaults.

00:43:59.000 Well, Clinton is bad, but what Trump did is okay.

00:44:01.000 It's all bad, so let's acknowledge they're both bad and get down to ideas.

00:44:04.000 Wait, what sexual assaults did Trump do?

00:44:06.000 Well, there's a case pending that's going to be heard on December 16th, where before this tape, a woman came forward, there were several women who came forward, and said he did exactly what he described.

00:44:13.000 This was before the tape was released.

00:44:14.000 He forced himself to on me, groped me, and kissed me.

00:44:17.000 And that's going to be heard in court.

00:44:18.000 Okay, well let's hear them in court, because Hillary has plenty of cases that have already been through court, that have already been settled.

00:44:25.000 Dismissed.

00:44:26.000 None of stuck.

00:44:27.000 But none of them stuck.

00:44:30.000 I've seen Hillary with her fingers on the button.

00:44:32.000 No, they didn't stick.

00:44:33.000 None of these stuck as far as sexual assault charges.

00:44:36.000 Wait, the Bill Clinton ones never stuck?

00:44:39.000 What was the charge from Paula Jones?

00:44:40.000 I thought it was a settled.

00:44:42.000 Yeah, a settlement, it means it's settled.

00:44:44.000 Well, Donald Trump has settled far more than the Clintons.

00:44:45.000 That means he's guilty of not hiring black people.

00:44:48.000 He's settled.

00:44:49.000 Doesn't mean you're guilty.

00:44:50.000 He's never been found guilty, is my point.

00:44:51.000 So if neither of them are found guilty, then let's toss the ammo out on both sides.

00:44:55.000 Is that fair?

00:44:56.000 Yeah, but it won't happen.

00:44:57.000 But is that fair?

00:44:59.000 Yeah, but all you're doing is silencing one side because the left is going to...

00:45:02.000 Right, but my point is both sides right now want it both ways.

00:45:05.000 So I'm saying let's acknowledge all of it, like Andrew said, or none of it.

00:45:09.000 That's my only point.

00:45:10.000 It's some kind of consistency.

00:45:11.000 Yeah, I get you.

00:45:12.000 But the problem is that Hillary started playing dirty pool with Trump did this and Trump's racist, and that is the left's tactic.

00:45:19.000 They always call you a racist.

00:45:20.000 They try to tar and feather you.

00:45:21.000 So now Trump is retaliating and fighting fire with fire.

00:45:24.000 But I think the left started it.

00:45:26.000 It's their M.O., The left is why Trump exists, because they said, we just keep getting cowed.

00:45:33.000 Like Romney, they said 50% of the country don't pay tax.

00:45:37.000 They went, boo Romney, and Romney just went, I'm sorry.

00:45:40.000 He should have said, yeah, it's true, they don't.

00:45:43.000 That's true.

00:45:43.000 Instead, he retreated to his holy underwear closet.

00:45:46.000 We're going to get letters on that.

00:45:48.000 We're against Mormons now?

00:45:50.000 No, no one's against Mormons.

00:45:51.000 Evan McMullen could win Utah.

00:45:53.000 It's an absolutely...

00:45:54.000 We're down on women and Mormons.

00:45:55.000 I think we've gone over 50% of the country.

00:45:57.000 Yeah, I know.

00:45:59.000 It is a rough front.

00:46:00.000 Okay, well, we'll come back.

00:46:01.000 We'll do another second.

00:46:02.000 We can do this all night.

00:46:04.000 All night?

00:46:05.000 I don't think there's a lot of disagreement here.

00:46:06.000 I think there's the slight disagreement of the lens of consistency versus win at all costs.

00:46:13.000 And I think that's kind of the two camps right now.

00:46:15.000 And I understand both.

00:46:16.000 I also think Trump is going to be a terrible president, but I don't think he'll be as bad as hell.

00:46:19.000 We'll be back with another segment.

00:46:21.000 Andrew Klavan and Gavin McInnes.

00:46:23.000 Stay tuned.

00:46:24.000 And now for the man who captured America's hearts.

00:46:42.000 These are the Adventures of Cambon.

00:46:46.000 The Adventures of Cambon Okay, that was fun, so I'll see you tomorrow, Cindy!

00:47:00.000 Yeah, okay, I'll see you girls tomorrow.

00:47:02.000 Hey there, Cindy.

00:47:17.000 What you got there?

00:47:19.000 I'm sorry.

00:47:20.000 Oh, that's a nice knapsack.

00:47:24.000 Who are you?

00:47:25.000 Kenneth Bones, the name.

00:47:26.000 I'm an old friend of your dad.

00:47:28.000 How come I never heard of you?

00:47:30.000 Well, I don't think your dad's been doing a lot of talking these days.

00:47:33.000 He seems mighty stressed.

00:47:35.000 Yeah, he's always working too much.

00:47:37.000 Oh, I know, and that's a shame.

00:47:39.000 With a great young gal like you, I'd never be going into the office.

00:47:43.000 All I'd do is take care of you.

00:47:44.000 Hey!

00:47:45.000 You like candy?

00:47:47.000 Yeah, I like candy.

00:47:49.000 Yeah, all little girls like candy.

00:47:51.000 How about puppies?

00:47:53.000 Yeah?

00:47:54.000 Well, it just so happens to be a fact, I got both of them in back.

00:48:00.000 I don't know.

00:48:02.000 Oh, why don't you just go back there and check it out?

00:48:05.000 I'm not supposed to talk to people I don't know.

00:48:08.000 I'm not a stranger.

00:48:09.000 I already told you.

00:48:10.000 I'm Kenneth Bone, a good friend of your dad's.

00:48:12.000 Go on back there.

00:48:14.000 Hmm...

00:48:16.000 Hey, what if I told you there's a birthday clown back there, too?

00:48:20.000 Traitor-nager!

00:48:23.000 Traitor-nager!

00:48:23.000 No, no, no, calm down!

00:48:24.000 I'm not a...

00:48:24.000 Oh, yes.

00:48:26.000 Ah, crap.

00:48:34.000 Ah, crap.

00:48:39.000 Stay tuned for more of America's Sweetheart, The Adventures of Campbell.

00:48:45.000 Don't get excited.

00:49:02.000 Here we go.

00:49:04.000 All right, we are back.

00:49:22.000 Before I introduce my guest, Not Gay Jared, you had a point.

00:49:24.000 Make it brief, because it's going to be the least valuable edition of this segment.

00:49:28.000 I'm sure it will be.

00:49:28.000 I think one of the differences we're talking about, but not being forthcoming with, is that it's not so much the difference between what people use in the race.

00:49:41.000 If Hillary's going to shove on dirt in a debate on Trump, personal dirt, I think Trump should shove right back to bring it back.

00:49:47.000 I think what we're talking about, at least to me, is what shapes how voters think about the candidates.

00:49:52.000 If you're going to make a decision...

00:49:55.000 I don't think it's what's fair of all in the race, in the campaigns, for the debates.

00:49:58.000 Trump needs to get beyond that 42 wall, and he never has.

00:50:02.000 And there's no path to it now unless something changes.

00:50:06.000 Author of The Great Good Thing, Andrew Klavan, CompoundMedia.com.

00:50:09.000 Gavin McInnes, what do you think?

00:50:11.000 How does Trump get beyond that wall and the mathematical, not quite impossibility, but getting there for him to win?

00:50:17.000 He needs to get at least a few more percentage points than he hasn't.

00:50:20.000 How does he do it?

00:50:20.000 This is how he's going to do that.

00:50:22.000 He is going to become...

00:50:26.000 president.

00:50:27.000 And have you noticed if you put on Real Housewives, your mother's ass stays glued to the couch and your dad gets the hell out of there.

00:50:35.000 We need women to stay home this election and we need dads to get out to the polls.

00:50:40.000 So that show had better be on on November 8th if we're going to win this election.

00:50:45.000 And the way you do that, by the way, the way you do that, the way you keep women on the couch is you hammer Hillary.

00:50:53.000 Now, he did it in the first election a tiny bit.

00:50:55.000 He did it in the second debate much better.

00:50:59.000 The third debate, I want to hear uranium really loud.

00:51:03.000 I want to hear Clinton Foundation really loud.

00:51:05.000 Yes, I want to hear about all those suspicious deaths.

00:51:08.000 Throw that in the mix.

00:51:09.000 They need to get women's enthusiasm low.

00:51:13.000 Okay, so you think a low turnout is his golden ticket.

00:51:17.000 And the way he achieves that is he hammers Hillary hard.

00:51:22.000 I think, if nothing else, we've learned that Gavin McGinnis has a very odd family life in their selection of reality shows.

00:51:28.000 Clavin, what do you think?

00:51:30.000 What is his path, and do you agree with Gavin?

00:51:32.000 Well, I agree that if that were possible, that would be his path, and that obviously seems to be his strategy.

00:51:38.000 He seems to have given up the idea that he can attract anybody.

00:51:41.000 He's just going to try and suppress the vote by getting people to stay home.

00:51:45.000 I can't see that working.

00:51:46.000 It just doesn't seem like a mathematical possibility to me.

00:51:50.000 I would be the only thing that would...

00:51:54.000 That I do think could happen is I do think the polls could be wrong.

00:51:57.000 The polls have been right for the last couple of elections and people have been saying they were skewed and they haven't been.

00:52:02.000 So we've been lulled into trusting them.

00:52:04.000 I think it's possible the polls are wrong.

00:52:06.000 I think this last Wall Street Journal poll was basically a fake.

00:52:10.000 I think it came out too soon.

00:52:11.000 I don't think they processed the information.

00:52:12.000 I think it was way, way tilted to Democrats.

00:52:15.000 That is possible.

00:52:16.000 But if the polls are right, and I'm talking about the Real Clear Politics average, which is now still about 6%.

00:52:22.000 Even the only Trump-friendly polls, Rasmussen and L.A. Times.

00:52:25.000 L.A. Times has it a tie.

00:52:26.000 Rasmussen has them down big.

00:52:28.000 And they've always been more generous.

00:52:30.000 Men don't answer polls.

00:52:31.000 Well, they have in the last eight elections.

00:52:33.000 Going to the voting booth.

00:52:34.000 They have in the last eight elections.

00:52:35.000 Men don't feel like talking on the phone.

00:52:36.000 Yeah, how am I going to vote?

00:52:37.000 Who is this?

00:52:39.000 Andrew?

00:52:40.000 What I think you were saying, that he hasn't gotten over 42%, I just think that's very telling, just mathematically.

00:52:46.000 I don't think you can win if you can't get your vote up past that.

00:52:50.000 And I just don't see it.

00:52:52.000 I think he's impassioning women to vote against him.

00:52:54.000 I've seen that.

00:52:56.000 I've seen women who weren't going to vote, going this guy is, I've seen it, women just like, he's such a pig, if I go to vote, it'll be to vote against this guy.

00:53:04.000 I've seen that happen, I think he runs at risk.

00:53:06.000 But remember guys, if we had the same voting demographics that we had for Reagan, Romney would have won by a landslide.

00:53:12.000 It's all these other, the 80% of young people, visible minorities, women, that vast majority of voters, that are going in there.

00:53:20.000 They're going in there at a spite.

00:53:22.000 They're going out of there because of emotion and because someone is cute like Justin Trudeau or cool like Barack Obama.

00:53:29.000 But this election is going to be Reagan demographics.

00:53:33.000 We're going to see all these dads finally interested in the political process.

00:53:37.000 And what I have to say to you two is...

00:53:39.000 I don't understand why you think that you have the privilege to sit there and go, I don't like either of them.

00:53:45.000 I don't support either of them.

00:53:47.000 You don't have a choice anymore.

00:53:49.000 You have to choose one of them.

00:53:51.000 It's an ultimatum.

00:53:54.000 I actually agree with that, and I've been having this argument with Ben Shapiro for a long time.

00:53:58.000 I actually do agree with that, but I don't have to lie.

00:54:02.000 I don't have to lie for them.

00:54:03.000 Just because I have to make an awful, awful choice.

00:54:05.000 I believe my country that I love has thrown up an awful choice.

00:54:10.000 I have to make it.

00:54:11.000 I get that.

00:54:12.000 I do agree with the people who say, one of these people is going to be president.

00:54:17.000 You've got to vote for one of them or the other.

00:54:18.000 So you are voting for Trump, Andrew.

00:54:21.000 I'm voting for Trump, but then I'm probably going to just hide away in my room in the darkness and weep for years to come after them.

00:54:28.000 Can we count on your vote too, Stephen?

00:54:31.000 He has until Election Day to win my vote.

00:54:33.000 I will tell you what was a big change for me.

00:54:35.000 Welcome aboard the Trump train, boys!

00:54:36.000 Yeah, I will tell you what it was for me.

00:54:38.000 Donald Trump, Gavin, for someone who's championed this for so long, he doesn't understand basic constitutional rights.

00:54:43.000 He doesn't understand it.

00:54:44.000 And so for me...

00:54:45.000 He's never read the Constitution.

00:54:46.000 No, no.

00:54:46.000 For him, the no-fly, no-buy...

00:54:49.000 This is way worse than grab it by the pussy or any of that.

00:54:51.000 For someone to say, you know what, let's strip someone of their right to self-preservation without any trial, without any criminal charges, without any appeal process, without even telling them why, for someone to be okay with that, that is unprecedented for a Republican.

00:55:05.000 As much as we can talk rhinos and Bush, and that to me was the most upsetting thing I've seen from any Republican in several elections.

00:55:12.000 You may not like I like it, Gavin.

00:55:13.000 You may think I'm a cock for saying it, but that really bothered me, and that gave me enough pause where I don't know that there's any difference.

00:55:19.000 Because once you remove the filter of either of these candidates care about constitutional rights at all, I think it's all for naught.

00:55:27.000 So if he shows me that he understands it on a fundamental level, of course I'll vote for him.

00:55:31.000 But he hasn't, and it really concerns me.

00:55:33.000 Can I add something to that?

00:55:35.000 Because I want to hear Gavin's response to this.

00:55:37.000 This is Ben Shapiro's argument.

00:55:40.000 I don't mean to make it for him.

00:55:41.000 This is the way I understand part of his argument.

00:55:43.000 You two Jews!

00:55:44.000 You always stick together!

00:55:46.000 You run the media and the banks!

00:55:48.000 And in our spare time, because every other day is a huge holiday.

00:55:53.000 You know, the fact that the Republican is talking about keeping all the entitlements, the Republican is talking about stripping you of both your Second and your Fifth Amendment rights, due process and your gun rights.

00:56:05.000 You know, the fact that he is such a left winger and he's always been a left winger, he's always been a Democrat and he represents the Republicans.

00:56:12.000 That seems does seem to me more damaging than the fact that Hillary is a left winger for the Democrats.

00:56:17.000 It seems it seems like he is destroying the core ethos of what used to be.

00:56:23.000 I think he's further to the left than Hillary on a few issues.

00:56:24.000 The fact that he's courting Bernie voters on economic issues and she was dismissing them as people who want free health care, want free school in their parents basement dwellers.

00:56:32.000 She was more of a centrist and he's courting them because he needs the votes.

00:56:35.000 Gavin, do you think Klavan makes a point there?

00:56:38.000 He does, but I've got some great news for both of you guys.

00:56:41.000 It's called Ted Cruz, SCOTUS. Ted Cruz will be replacing Scalia, and he will be handling all these boring constitutional manners that Trump doesn't have time for.

00:56:53.000 Look, I admit that that stuff worries me.

00:56:56.000 I admit that the lack of First and Second Amendment talk is scary, and as John Derbyshire says, he may break our hearts But he's the best option we have now.

00:57:06.000 And we need a bastard in there to win because the other side's been playing dirty pool for too long.

00:57:13.000 Yeah.

00:57:13.000 My problem with that, though, is like if we become them, then what are we voting against?

00:57:19.000 I don't understand.

00:57:20.000 I mean, the whole point was that we were the good guys.

00:57:22.000 This is what's so disturbing to me about Trump is that I used to say, you know, like, yeah, they fight dirty because we're the good guys.

00:57:28.000 And it's harder to win.

00:57:29.000 Well, it's not working.

00:57:30.000 Taking the high road hasn't been working.

00:57:32.000 We've got to take the low road.

00:57:33.000 It only didn't work in the presidential elections.

00:57:37.000 We won the Congress.

00:57:38.000 We won both houses of Congress.

00:57:39.000 We won state houses across the country.

00:57:41.000 We were on the march.

00:57:42.000 Which we'll all lose now.

00:57:43.000 But we're losing bigger wars.

00:57:45.000 We're losing the culture wars.

00:57:47.000 We're losing the Western world.

00:57:48.000 Actually, I think we're winning the culture wars.

00:57:50.000 And they were telling me that they were getting shot at, and their commander was saying, don't shoot back because it's at a mosque.

00:57:57.000 And one of them just went, did you say shoot the mosque?

00:58:00.000 I misheard you.

00:58:03.000 Actually, let me say something here.

00:58:05.000 They've polluted everything.

00:58:06.000 To give Gavin credit and Klavan credit, I actually think we're winning the culture war now.

00:58:10.000 That's what concerns me.

00:58:11.000 More young people identify as right-wing on issues when polled individually than ever before.

00:58:17.000 Certainly more than baby boomers at this point in their lives.

00:58:19.000 Gavin, that's why you're able to reach so many people.

00:58:22.000 Well, slow down.

00:58:22.000 I'm the one with you two and other guys that made it happen.

00:58:26.000 So don't go telling me I'm lucky to have a bed when I've made it myself.

00:58:30.000 No, I'm not saying you're lucky.

00:58:31.000 I'm saying that's why people, because of the work you've done, I would put myself on that list because I was doing it since 2006.

00:58:37.000 I was doing it since 2005.

00:58:38.000 Alright, there you go, you stupid little hipster.

00:58:40.000 Godfather of hipsterdom.

00:58:41.000 We knew this was going to happen.

00:58:42.000 But my point is, I'm giving you a compliment, you dick.

00:58:44.000 I know, I know.

00:58:45.000 My point is this.

00:58:47.000 But you're able, you have to know, we've talked about this, you're able to make more headway now because I think a lot of young people have been red-pilled to take the term, have opened their eyes.

00:58:55.000 But here's what's so scary to me.

00:58:56.000 These people, in a generic matchup, even millennials, Republicans were doing better versus Democrats in a generic matchup for the House or Senate than ever before.

00:59:04.000 That's gone.

00:59:05.000 These people who support the Second Amendment, the First Amendment more than ever before, who hate social justice warriors more than ever before, we should have a record number of people below the age of 45, not just millennials, record number of people below the age of 45, uneducated or educated, voting Republican, and it's the lowest number ever.

00:59:20.000 Which tells me these people are looking for a number to not vote Hillary and Trump hasn't given it to them.

00:59:25.000 Answering the phone when pollsters call.

00:59:27.000 Well, we'll find that out quickly on November 8th.

00:59:29.000 I think Andrew's right.

00:59:29.000 I think there's a There's a whole America going on there that doesn't have time for the phone, doesn't trust the media.

00:59:34.000 We've seen how biased they are towards Hillary.

00:59:37.000 And I think not only have they given up on the media, but they had given up on the political process for the past eight years.

00:59:42.000 And all of a sudden they're going, you know what, I'll be handling this myself.

00:59:45.000 Look at Florida the other day with Trump.

00:59:47.000 We don't hear about any support over there.

00:59:49.000 Oh, he's dying in the polls.

00:59:51.000 Then you look out on the audience and you go, what is that, 50,000 people?

00:59:55.000 It looks like a Rolling Stones concert in Rio.

00:59:58.000 Right.

00:59:58.000 Hold on, we have one minute, Klavan go, and then we'll do another segment here.

01:00:01.000 Do you truly believe that the polls are so skewed that Trump is winning?

01:00:06.000 They only have to be a few percentage points off.

01:00:09.000 No, they'd have to be like 11 points off in a lot of key states.

01:00:12.000 It'd be pretty tough at this point.

01:00:14.000 Look, you know, you may be right, but I don't think so.

01:00:16.000 And I think what Stephen says is exactly right.

01:00:19.000 We were winning.

01:00:20.000 We had won.

01:00:21.000 If we had put up almost anybody, Marco Rubio, who, no matter what you say about his immigration stance, he would have moved the party to the right.

01:00:28.000 He would have won.

01:00:29.000 Look, I think a wind-up ball could have beaten Hillary Clinton.

01:00:33.000 Well, we'll be right back.

01:00:34.000 And you're right.

01:00:36.000 The thing is, Trump's immigration plan is almost identical to Marco Rubio's now.

01:00:41.000 We'll be back with these guests.

01:00:42.000 Yes, I love them both very much.

01:00:44.000 This is Clever Comebacks with Bill Clinton.

01:01:01.000 . you And that's why I'm confident that the American people understand.

01:01:09.000 That you raped a bunch of women and threatened to kill them if they came forward?

01:01:15.000 Now, that's not true.

01:01:19.000 Yes, it is true.

01:01:22.000 Well, that's what you say.

01:01:25.000 It's what they said in court under oath.

01:01:31.000 No.

01:01:33.000 This has been Clever Comebacks with Bill Clinton.

01:01:37.000 Clever Comebacks with Bill Clinton.

01:02:05.000 Gavin McGinnis, go listen to his podcast or you're not welcome here.

01:02:05.000 Compoundmedia.com.

01:02:09.000 The Great Good Thing, written by Andrew Klavan.

01:02:12.000 Yeah, okay, so let's get to that.

01:02:13.000 A lot of people say all the polls...

01:02:14.000 You know, the only Trump argument at this point is all the polls are rigged.

01:02:16.000 I'm just talking about...

01:02:17.000 I think there are two things.

01:02:18.000 The policies...

01:02:20.000 The personalities.

01:02:21.000 And then I think you get to, okay, this is the political reality.

01:02:24.000 How does Trump win?

01:02:25.000 That's a third thing.

01:02:26.000 So really three things.

01:02:26.000 I misspoke.

01:02:27.000 The only real argument for the third is all the polls are rigged.

01:02:32.000 And the betting odds are skewed and everyone involved in the polling industry whose livelihood depends on being accurate are somehow working for the left, including conservatives like Rasmussen.

01:02:41.000 No, not working for the left.

01:02:43.000 Their system doesn't work because they don't recognize that there is this sleeping giant.

01:02:48.000 Waiting to spring in November.

01:02:50.000 I would think the people...

01:02:51.000 Well, if you look at the demos, the people most likely to answer their phone are actually older, white people.

01:02:57.000 Those are the people who still have landlines.

01:03:00.000 So wouldn't it over-represent them?

01:03:02.000 But not...

01:03:03.000 No, not boomer dads.

01:03:05.000 I would think so.

01:03:07.000 Go ahead.

01:03:07.000 I would also think it's in...

01:03:09.000 If the polls skew left, if the pollsters are leftists, I would think it would be in their...

01:03:14.000 To their advantage to make it look like a closer race.

01:03:17.000 Because the biggest problem that Hillary has is nobody likes her.

01:03:21.000 So if they think she's going to win anyway and they can stay home and not vote for her, they will.

01:03:26.000 She is a horrible bitch.

01:03:27.000 There is that.

01:03:29.000 She is a genuine nightmare.

01:03:31.000 And, you know, the thing is, as much as I dislike Trump, so much of what he does is just petty corruption and coarseness and crassness and rudeness, where she is a deeply corrupt individual.

01:03:43.000 I mean, she is somebody who sold government favors for cash.

01:03:46.000 She did that.

01:03:47.000 That's, you know, that's influence peddling.

01:03:49.000 It's a felony.

01:03:50.000 She shouldn't be walking around.

01:03:52.000 I mean, when the FBI decided not to indict her, I kind of backed Comey because I thought he was...

01:03:58.000 Probably an honest guy.

01:03:59.000 Having watched him now answer all these questions in the Congress, I think he's blown.

01:04:06.000 I think he's corrupt.

01:04:07.000 I think the Justice Department is corrupt.

01:04:09.000 Listen, Barack Obama, who's probably a nicer person if you met him individually than any of these people, has corrupted every arm of government.

01:04:17.000 Every three-lettered agency is now working against the Constitution, working for him.

01:04:22.000 These are very bad people on the left.

01:04:24.000 And as bad as Trump is, he's nothing like that.

01:04:27.000 Hold on a sec here.

01:04:29.000 The way we abhor crass behavior and the way we go against all this horrible, rude language, I think it's wonderful.

01:04:38.000 Because what it's done is it's made conservatism punk rock again.

01:04:42.000 It's made it exciting.

01:04:43.000 It's made it cool.

01:04:45.000 And that gets the young people.

01:04:47.000 And that's what we need more than anything.

01:04:48.000 We need the young vote.

01:04:50.000 Like, what is the average demographic of Fox News is 70 years old?

01:04:53.000 If they don't get younger people, then they're doomed.

01:04:56.000 And the way you get younger people, the way the right gets younger people, is it gets more fun.

01:05:01.000 You know, I remember when...

01:05:02.000 When Rush Limbaugh called Sandra Fluck a slut and everyone I knew over at Fox and everyone I knew on the right said, oh, that was terrible.

01:05:10.000 He's using their language and I'm not supporting him and we're becoming one of them.

01:05:14.000 And I said, no, that's good.

01:05:15.000 Slut, slut, slut it up.

01:05:17.000 We want to have that normal language so we can bring in young people.

01:05:21.000 On the weekend, we were bathing in pig's blood here in New York at a Trump art show, and the left was going ballistic.

01:05:29.000 We're making it fun again.

01:05:30.000 And far be it from me, because Kirsten Powers got furious when I created that famous Barack Obama poster, put in Hillary Clinton, and wrote bitch on it.

01:05:37.000 And she was like, listen, if you can't use the word bitch for her, you can't use it.

01:05:39.000 I'm not saying all women.

01:05:40.000 I'm just saying her!

01:05:41.000 She's a bitch!

01:05:42.000 That being said, words are not the same as character issues.

01:05:46.000 You use naughty words.

01:05:47.000 I know you're a good...

01:05:48.000 People can see that.

01:05:49.000 And I see it in my...

01:05:50.000 People use naughty words, but they're also good to their wives.

01:05:53.000 Gavin, you're a good dad.

01:05:54.000 You're a good dad.

01:05:56.000 You're a good...

01:05:56.000 No, no, the point is, Gavin, but it's one thing to say a naughty word.

01:06:00.000 That's not what it's about.

01:06:01.000 Another thing, your character matters to you.

01:06:03.000 It matters to you, Gavin.

01:06:04.000 I know the way you live your life.

01:06:05.000 Your character matters to you.

01:06:06.000 That's one of the things I respect about you.

01:06:07.000 And Clavin.

01:06:08.000 So I think we can separate naughty words versus character issues and not sell both out.

01:06:13.000 You can't judge character.

01:06:15.000 You might as well do screenings for jihadists.

01:06:17.000 You can't tell someone's deep, dark thoughts.

01:06:21.000 Sure you can.

01:06:21.000 But it is like saying, that's why I was talking before about how there's always this kernel of truth in what the left says.

01:06:28.000 It is like saying, yeah, it's great that they're spilling oil into the bay because I'm sick of these environmentalists.

01:06:35.000 Well, that's not quite it, isn't it?

01:06:37.000 That's not quite where we want to go.

01:06:39.000 What we want is to be able to get our oil to frack, to do this stuff and drive our cars and not be hounded by these people.

01:06:45.000 But yeah, we want our air to be clean.

01:06:47.000 Same thing with Trump.

01:06:48.000 Yes, I want political incorrectness everywhere.

01:06:51.000 I want you to be able to say bitch about women and bastard about men.

01:06:55.000 I want you to be able to tell the truth.

01:06:57.000 I want you to be able to say there's more crime in black neighborhoods than there is in white neighborhoods.

01:07:01.000 It's a problem.

01:07:02.000 Yeah, you can say all those things and you can say them bluntly and clearly and truthfully.

01:07:07.000 Without calling, you know, Ted Cruz's wife ugly, you know, which is absurd, you know, it's just without stooping to this personal, vindictive, nasty talk that does seem like a mental illness Trump has.

01:07:20.000 There's something wrong with him that when you attack him, he cannot get off the subject.

01:07:24.000 Of justifying himself.

01:07:26.000 I mean, that's classic narcissism.

01:07:27.000 Something wrong with the guy.

01:07:28.000 Cruz did lose.

01:07:29.000 Cruz got pushed out of the race after that.

01:07:31.000 I mean, it was dirty pool, but it kind of worked.

01:07:34.000 And by the way, not to keep hounding about this Trump art show we did on the weekend, but there was some guy there in a Che Guevara hat, and he had a bag, and I just thought, you seem like a spy.

01:07:44.000 And then he started panicking, so I grabbed him by the shirt, and I just threw him out the front door, and he started screaming hysterically.

01:07:51.000 Like an eight-year-old girl on a roller coaster.

01:07:54.000 Now, that is all we have to do to the left, is just get a little bit tough, grab them by the cuff, and throw them out.

01:08:00.000 Yeah, it's stupid to their level, but it's going to take some tough love to realign America.

01:08:04.000 Well, here's what I will say about that, okay, just since you mentioned the Shea t-shirt.

01:08:09.000 The left has normalized abhorrent things.

01:08:12.000 They have normalized Hillary Clinton.

01:08:14.000 People look at Hillary Clinton and say, well, she's bad.

01:08:17.000 It was P.J. O'Rourke said she's bad, but she's bad in a normal way, whereas Trump is bad in an abnormal way, and I disagree with that.

01:08:23.000 I think when you can wear a Shea t-shirt, you can't wear a Himmler t-shirt.

01:08:27.000 It's the same thing.

01:08:28.000 It's the same damn thing.

01:08:29.000 It's like you're wearing this murderous communist, you know, Evildoer, basically, on your shirt.

01:08:36.000 And that's a good point.

01:08:37.000 You know, when all the Never Trumpers say this shirt is just as bad as, you know, committing adultery, which we're selling in the merch store very soon, by the way.

01:08:46.000 Like, I'm totally, obviously, it doesn't, it's not, it's not lost on me.

01:08:50.000 I agree with you on that, Gavin.

01:08:51.000 But I do think we need to be intellectually honest and consistent.

01:08:53.000 I think we can do both.

01:08:56.000 I don't know who you want.

01:08:57.000 We have two people left.

01:09:00.000 And you don't have a choice anymore.

01:09:02.000 If you don't vote for Trump, you'll be voting for uranium.

01:09:05.000 Okay, but let's get past that.

01:09:07.000 Can we do one more segment?

01:09:08.000 You guys are so lovely.

01:09:09.000 Can you do one more segment?

01:09:10.000 Clavin, I know you're busy.

01:09:11.000 I got one more.

01:09:13.000 Alright, he's got one more.

01:09:14.000 Let's go write another book.

01:09:17.000 I'm dumpster dove this morning and I want to finish this soup.

01:09:20.000 What kind of soup is it?

01:09:22.000 It's just various things.

01:09:23.000 You wouldn't believe what people throw out these days.

01:09:25.000 Totally reasonable.

01:09:26.000 I'm glad he's eating.

01:09:28.000 And some mushroom compote.

01:09:29.000 Speaking of which, we'll have Nick DiPaolo, hipster hobo.

01:09:32.000 One more segment.

01:09:32.000 Stay tuned.

01:09:32.000 One more segment.

01:09:33.000 For breaking news on Louder with Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson.

01:10:00.000 We now have received breaking audio from a recent locker room conversation with none other than America's sweetheart, Dean Cain.

01:10:11.000 Speaking in a way that has raised some eyebrows, we'll play the tape for you now and warn that it's not family appropriate.

01:10:18.000 No, she was really nice, you know, and then we went actually to have sushi, which I love sushi, and apparently she wasn't her favorite, but we still had a really nice time.

01:10:28.000 Yeah, and at the end of the night, did you maybe grope her sexually against her will?

01:10:34.000 Against her?

01:10:35.000 No, that's really, no, I didn't grope her sexually.

01:10:39.000 Against her will or otherwise.

01:10:40.000 I mean, we had just a nice time.

01:10:42.000 You can tell me.

01:10:42.000 Oh, come on.

01:10:43.000 Did you assist us in the locker room?

01:10:45.000 Did you maybe try to grab a pussy?

01:10:47.000 You know?

01:10:48.000 What the?

01:10:49.000 What?

01:10:50.000 What the hell is wrong with you?

01:10:51.000 No.

01:10:51.000 I didn't do anything like that.

01:10:53.000 We had a nice meal and talked.

01:10:54.000 Was she married?

01:10:55.000 No, no, no, no.

01:10:56.000 She's not married.

01:10:58.000 No, I did a married war.

01:11:00.000 What are you talking about?

01:11:01.000 I think I got what I need.

01:11:02.000 Let's do it in post.

01:11:04.000 Hey, hey, hey!

01:11:05.000 Truly a campaign shake-up and a sad commentary of where our culture is as a country.

01:11:12.000 It should be noted that that tape was provided to us courtesy of Sheldon Acorns and his Quirceuticals.

01:11:18.000 I'll keep you abreast as this story unfolds.

01:11:21.000 For Laurel's Crowder, I'm Perry...

01:11:49.000 All right, glad to be back.

01:11:51.000 I'll take off these glasses.

01:11:52.000 They're messing with my vision.

01:11:53.000 We've never done a segment this long ever with guests, but I love these two.

01:11:58.000 CompoundMedia.com, Gavin McInnes, very funny, very talented, very good man, despite what he tries to put on.

01:12:03.000 Always keep up appearances with love.

01:12:05.000 And Andrew Klavan, the great good thing.

01:12:07.000 He made a joke on a bus with a short guy.

01:12:10.000 Oh, come on.

01:12:11.000 We all know he's a serial adulterer, and that's just silly.

01:12:13.000 Let me ask you this.

01:12:13.000 So since we're talking about this...

01:12:14.000 That man was fired for laughing at that joke.

01:12:16.000 That's the America we live in.

01:12:18.000 Well, Billy Bush is a prick.

01:12:21.000 So, WikiLeaks, we'll talk about this.

01:12:25.000 Here's the thing I want to get past.

01:12:26.000 Yeah, I think everyone here is voting Trump, okay?

01:12:29.000 I don't know about not gay Jared, but if Trump loses in a landslide loss...

01:12:36.000 Then, and that's very likely, then there needs to be a regrouping.

01:12:40.000 And I do want to know if the Trump-trained people can face a reality.

01:12:44.000 And here's something that's important to me.

01:12:46.000 We're talking about the WikiLeaks.

01:12:47.000 We covered this before a lot of other people did.

01:12:49.000 We talked about Hillary Clinton knowingly deleting emails.

01:12:52.000 What's a smoking gun at this point?

01:12:53.000 There's a smoking Gatling gun.

01:12:55.000 No one cares.

01:12:56.000 But something that was very telling to me, they were terrified of facing the likes of Marco Rubio.

01:13:01.000 Podesta said he thought that Hillary's campaign was entirely dependent on Trump being the nominee, and that was a guaranteed win.

01:13:07.000 They almost knew it was a certain loss against Rubio.

01:13:10.000 So when the cameras weren't rolling, without the propaganda, they wanted this.

01:13:15.000 Is that somewhat telling just as far as political strategy that maybe some people were right about this, where we find ourselves?

01:13:22.000 Gavin, you can go first.

01:13:24.000 Sure.

01:13:24.000 But again, that's the old model.

01:13:26.000 This is a total and utter reboot.

01:13:28.000 Everyone has been gobsmacked from the day he became the presidential candidate up until an hour ago.

01:13:36.000 He keeps blowing our minds.

01:13:38.000 And I think one of the problems with the GOP is we keep using old models and old way of life.

01:13:43.000 We had a saint run.

01:13:45.000 Romney has probably never even thought of a swear word before.

01:13:49.000 And they said, oh, his camp had the N-word.

01:13:51.000 He had an offshore account.

01:13:53.000 God bless him.

01:13:54.000 Wait, his camp had the N-word?

01:13:54.000 And he had a rude comment.

01:13:55.000 What?

01:13:56.000 Something about the N-word with Romney?

01:13:57.000 I've not heard this.

01:13:58.000 Some camp that used to be called something.

01:14:02.000 Oh, it was Rick Perry.

01:14:03.000 Okay, go.

01:14:03.000 That's right, and the painkillers.

01:14:04.000 Yeah, just a bunch of garbage.

01:14:06.000 So we went, all right, we can't win.

01:14:08.000 You keep looking for this perfect soul Jesus candidate.

01:14:11.000 No, no, no, Gavin, don't do that.

01:14:12.000 That's not intellectually honest.

01:14:13.000 I was saying with these private emails, they wanted Trump.

01:14:17.000 Strategically, if Trump loses in a landslide, is there a reality that you think Republicans are willing to face it?

01:14:21.000 Okay, you know what?

01:14:22.000 Maybe let's go a different direction.

01:14:24.000 Let's get a Rubio next election.

01:14:26.000 Clavin, go ahead.

01:14:28.000 You're talking about America that is a Mad Max movie.

01:14:31.000 I don't know what is going to be.

01:14:32.000 I'm very Glenn Beckian when it comes to the next four years.

01:14:36.000 And if Hillary wins, I know on a personal level, I'm going to go from a funny guy in a Hawaiian shirt to a dark, satanic, evil dude who lives alone in a one-bedroom.

01:14:46.000 I wake up at 8 p.m.

01:14:47.000 and do sit-ups and then just start practicing at the gun range.

01:14:51.000 It's going to go dark.

01:14:53.000 He'll be me!

01:14:54.000 At least he'll be doing some sit-ups.

01:14:55.000 I guess that's what it takes.

01:14:57.000 Send an email to his wife.

01:14:58.000 Clavin.

01:15:00.000 The answer to your question is no.

01:15:02.000 I think a civil war is coming in the Republican Party.

01:15:05.000 I think that the Trump people...

01:15:06.000 Look, when Romney lost, they said to us, well, you didn't show up.

01:15:11.000 And I was thinking, hey, it's not my job to show up.

01:15:13.000 It's your job to convince me to show up.

01:15:14.000 That's what a candidate does.

01:15:15.000 Right.

01:15:16.000 I don't owe you my vote.

01:15:18.000 This is a difficult choice, both bad candidates.

01:15:22.000 The people who, as a matter of conscience, don't feel that they can vote for Trump may cost him the election.

01:15:29.000 And for Trump, who has never taken responsibility for anything, who's never taken the blame for anything, he is going to maintain, and he's right about himself, he is a movement.

01:15:37.000 He is going to maintain that it was rigged, it was stolen, the weak republic.

01:15:41.000 He's doing it now.

01:15:42.000 He's spending his precious moments attacking Paul Ryan in this campaign.

01:15:47.000 He's going to continue to do that after he loses, and I think that's going to tear the Republican Party apart.

01:15:53.000 I do not see how there's a future for the republic.

01:15:57.000 Two questions to both of you, since they're both writers, they speak in paragraphs.

01:16:01.000 Let me ask you this.

01:16:02.000 If Trump loses, what's the statistical reality?

01:16:05.000 So Trump loses or Trump wins?

01:16:06.000 Klavan, if Trump loses, is it the never-Trump people?

01:16:09.000 Is it the other Republicans to blame?

01:16:11.000 Or is it Trump and his supporters?

01:16:12.000 Keep it short and then I'll toss to Gavin.

01:16:14.000 Who's to blame?

01:16:15.000 Trump is to blame.

01:16:16.000 Okay.

01:16:16.000 He's a terrible candidate.

01:16:17.000 Gavin, who's to blame if Trump loses in a big loss?

01:16:20.000 Women.

01:16:21.000 The same people who got Barack Obama elected.

01:16:25.000 Women thinking that they understand the political process and playing man, basically.

01:16:32.000 Okay.

01:16:32.000 Does this give me an excuse to beat my wife?

01:16:33.000 That's all I want to know.

01:16:34.000 I just want to make sure.

01:16:35.000 Give me an excuse to grab her by the...

01:16:37.000 Okay, so let's think about that.

01:16:38.000 Which I don't even know how you do it, but apparently it's got to be in page 47 of the Sexual Assault Role Playing Handbook.

01:16:45.000 There's a book for dummies out there somewhere.

01:16:46.000 I haven't found it yet.

01:16:47.000 It's not sexual assault.

01:16:49.000 If they hurl it at you, then you're just catching it.

01:16:51.000 Well, I don't even know how that physically happens, but you hang out in some weird places.

01:16:56.000 I guess it's the exercise he gets in the absence of sit-ups.

01:16:59.000 Let me ask you this.

01:17:02.000 Okay.

01:17:03.000 America, Gavin.

01:17:05.000 So, here was kind of the fear.

01:17:06.000 I'm calling me America Gavin.

01:17:07.000 America Gavin.

01:17:08.000 It's his pornography game.

01:17:09.000 I'm sick of that nickname.

01:17:11.000 Italian Stallion was taken.

01:17:13.000 So...

01:17:15.000 Is America now, if Trump loses, for example, the big concern from people who are critics said, well, not only could Trump lose, but it'll hurt the down-ballot candidates.

01:17:22.000 Republicans are going to keep control of the House, Senate.

01:17:26.000 Now it looks like they might not.

01:17:27.000 It looks like they might lose a lot of seats.

01:17:29.000 If Trump loses, if he wins, America's better off.

01:17:32.000 I think we'll all agree.

01:17:33.000 If Trump loses and takes the Republican Party with him.

01:17:37.000 Do you think America is better off or worse off?

01:17:39.000 Well, it's clearly worse off, and I think that the Supreme Court is the most dangerous part of that.

01:17:45.000 I think without Scalia, he was our stopgap.

01:17:48.000 We've lost that.

01:17:48.000 We're going to lose the First Amendment.

01:17:50.000 We're going to lose the Second Amendment.

01:17:52.000 We're going to have...

01:17:53.000 I mean, abortion is...

01:17:54.000 She was talking about 32 weeks the other day to legalize abortion.

01:17:59.000 I don't know if she's ever Google-imaged it, but they're looking pretty viable at 32 weeks.

01:18:04.000 Looks like her before makeup.

01:18:05.000 So I am petrified...

01:18:06.000 I'm petrified of a Hillary Supreme Court.

01:18:09.000 I really am.

01:18:09.000 And I still have this fantasy of a Superman-Batman-Trump-Cruise team where he's handling the nerdy stuff, Cruz, and Trump's handling the showboating.

01:18:19.000 Okay.

01:18:20.000 I think, you know, I really respect that about Gavin because a lot of people say, just burn the whole GOP to the ground.

01:18:25.000 And Gavin, when we've been on, he's talked about it.

01:18:26.000 Like, no, there's some real victories from Republicans.

01:18:28.000 They're not all bad.

01:18:29.000 I agree with you.

01:18:30.000 Everyone who wants smaller government.

01:18:30.000 I think if that...

01:18:32.000 I like the alt-right.

01:18:34.000 I like the neocons.

01:18:35.000 I like the paleocons.

01:18:37.000 I like Shapiro.

01:18:38.000 I love them all.

01:18:39.000 Dana Lash.

01:18:40.000 Even Glenn Beck.

01:18:42.000 Yeah.

01:18:42.000 Well, we'll get to alt-right because Andrew has opinions on that.

01:18:45.000 So, Clavin, is America better off or worst off in a post-Trump candidacy?

01:18:49.000 Well, I mean, he has put the Congress at risk and that's a real danger.

01:18:54.000 I mean, that was I mean, any other candidate, any other candidate, I think we could have held the House and the Senate.

01:19:00.000 I thought it was a no brainer.

01:19:01.000 The problem now is that people who vote for Trump may well vote against the Republican because Trump has attacked them.

01:19:08.000 And people who would have voted for the Republican may not because they're not voting for Trump.

01:19:12.000 So it's a double dip of bad news.

01:19:15.000 And man, oh man, a Hillary empowered by a Democrat Congress is not pleasant to think about.

01:19:22.000 That is not pleasant to think about.

01:19:23.000 It's like the first two years of Obama, but with hot flashes.

01:19:27.000 I have a question.

01:19:29.000 What?

01:19:30.000 Okay.

01:19:30.000 I have a question.

01:19:31.000 So Trump wins, and he is the terrible side of Trump, the bad Trump that we know he potentially could be.

01:19:38.000 How does that...

01:19:39.000 What happens to the movement at that point?

01:19:41.000 Gavin.

01:19:41.000 Gavin?

01:19:43.000 I guess...

01:19:44.000 So that was what Derbyshire talked about.

01:19:46.000 He could break our hearts.

01:19:47.000 And if he does, we'll backlash.

01:19:49.000 I mean, this isn't a cult.

01:19:50.000 I don't worship someone who says that it's going to be doomsday April 14th and then believe his stupid excuse on April 15th when the world didn't explode.

01:19:58.000 So we will come at him guns a-blazin' if he backstabs us.

01:20:02.000 I mean, I'm here to fight for individual liberty and freedom.

01:20:06.000 What?

01:20:07.000 So that's a level of specificity from an entertainer that I didn't expect.

01:20:10.000 He had the dates.

01:20:11.000 Tells me what he was doing with these Mayan predictions.

01:20:15.000 Well, that's why I left that cult, and that's why I'm here today to tell you about it.

01:20:19.000 He was wrong.

01:20:20.000 Yeah, I appreciate that.

01:20:21.000 It's like Nicolesby said after Obama won.

01:20:23.000 He said, we care about issues here, and we'll still be tackling them issue per issue.

01:20:28.000 He said, we don't even care who's in the White House.

01:20:30.000 And as far as this next month goes, I'm all about maintaining who is going to leave us alone the most.

01:20:37.000 I mean, politics only comes down to people who want to be left alone and people who won't leave them the hell alone.

01:20:42.000 I'm going with the candidate who wants to leave us the most the hell alone.

01:20:45.000 If he starts meddling, well then he's made a big mistake because there's a new positive force here with young people and they are done with this hippie crap.

01:20:56.000 I think you're right.

01:20:58.000 Clavin, I want to switch it because I know your answer to that question.

01:21:00.000 I think you answered it before.

01:21:01.000 The alt-right.

01:21:02.000 So Gavin talks about that.

01:21:04.000 You know, the alt-right really aren't conservative, though.

01:21:05.000 They actually like bigger government in a lot of ways, certainly economically.

01:21:08.000 A lot of them have come in from the Bernie side, the populist side.

01:21:11.000 Clavin, I know you can't stand the alt-right, and Gavin, you think some factions are okay.

01:21:16.000 Clavin, what's your stance on that and why?

01:21:18.000 Well, one of the things about every leftist policy is it always makes problems worse.

01:21:23.000 Everything that leftists do make problems worse, right?

01:21:25.000 You start talking about the police in black neighborhoods, suddenly black neighborhoods are on fire, murders are going up.

01:21:30.000 But worst of all is political correctness, because it actually does empower racists.

01:21:38.000 And rude people.

01:21:39.000 It basically makes rudeness hip and racism cool.

01:21:42.000 And I think that that's what Milo Yiannopoulos is running on.

01:21:45.000 He's giving this thing, it's so cool that a gay guy is out there talking about anti-Semitism and it makes that stuff viable because you're so tired of people telling you to shut up, that you feel like...

01:22:02.000 Saying anything is worthwhile.

01:22:04.000 I mean, that's what kind of makes John Derbyshire fun.

01:22:06.000 I reviewed one of his books, and he's an open racist.

01:22:09.000 He said he was a racist.

01:22:10.000 And I just thought, like, yeah, but it's funny because at least he says it.

01:22:14.000 He says it out loud.

01:22:16.000 It's the terrible thing about political correctness is that it empowers.

01:22:20.000 He's also married to an Asian woman and has Asian kids, so he's not your typical Klansman galloping down the street.

01:22:27.000 Asians are exempt.

01:22:28.000 But the thing is, these alt-right guys are feeding on that.

01:22:32.000 And just because you're being ironical about hating Jews doesn't mean you're not evil.

01:22:37.000 Evil trumps irony.

01:22:40.000 The guy being evil, ironically, is still being evil.

01:22:43.000 And these guys, the things they say, the things they have said to me, that they have said to Shapiro, they're disgusting.

01:22:50.000 I don't care about the political correction.

01:22:52.000 It's disgusting to tell somebody when he has a child, like they did to Shapiro, oh, well, I hope he enjoys the gas chamber.

01:22:58.000 You know?

01:22:59.000 That's disgusting stuff.

01:23:00.000 Well, they sent pictures of me in gas chambers, and then when they realized I wasn't Jewish, they just went the other way and were like, he hates Jews!

01:23:06.000 And I was like, alright, so whatever it takes to try to make it sting.

01:23:09.000 Yeah, but guys, be aware of the, you know, Ram Paul talks about this where he says, whenever I see 14 or 88 or swastikas, I am dubious, and I think of spies and liberals, I think of SPLC trying to justify their existence, I just ignore them.

01:23:24.000 I think a lot of that is fake, but I think a lot of people court them, though, Gavin.

01:23:29.000 I don't think you do, but I think a lot of people in positions of power court that a little bit, and it's built more of a monster because they're pretty disruptive online and people are afraid of them.

01:23:37.000 Is there some truth to what Clavin would say there?

01:23:39.000 Yeah, I'm just saying that those people are not real people.

01:23:43.000 Half of them are fakes.

01:23:44.000 But as far as the more palatable ones, like, say, Derb or Richard Spencer...

01:23:49.000 I am happy to disagree with him all the time.

01:23:51.000 He said to me once that the America he sees doesn't include non-whites, which I can't even do the numbers on that.

01:23:57.000 I don't get the mass of it.

01:23:59.000 But at least what they're doing is that word, racist, anti-Semitic, sexist, bigot, Islamophobe, those have been such a black cloud, such a sort of Damocles above our head for so many decades now that they were the first to sort of go, yeah, maybe I am.

01:24:16.000 So what?

01:24:16.000 And then the liberals go, they don't have an argument after that.

01:24:21.000 And it's very freeing to be past that.

01:24:23.000 I mean, the word racist has been used to describe so many things now.

01:24:29.000 They've diluted its value down to nothing.

01:24:32.000 Now, I still don't think you should be out there.

01:24:34.000 I think everyone on this panel here has been called a racist.

01:24:37.000 We have less than one minute left, so Clavin, do you want to respond?

01:24:39.000 And I'll let you guys go.

01:24:40.000 No, it's the very thing I hate about the left and that I hate about political correctness is it gives racism some legitimacy, not any philosophical or truth legitimacy.

01:24:50.000 It's just you'd rather hear somebody speak his mind than be shouted down.

01:24:53.000 In America, I would rather people speak their minds than be shouted down.

01:24:57.000 And I think that that is a criminal effect of political correctness.

01:25:01.000 I blame the left for it entirely that it has given these people who climb out from under rocks any kind of legitimacy.

01:25:06.000 Andrew Klavan, author of The Great Good Thing.

01:25:08.000 Go download it, buy it, listen to it.

01:25:10.000 Gavin McGinnis from compoundmedia.com.

01:25:12.000 We have to go.

01:25:13.000 Let's do this again, except...

01:25:15.000 Let's not do it again.

01:25:17.000 I don't think we want to do this any year.

01:25:19.000 Let's just really...

01:25:21.000 For breaking news on the Louders Crowder, I'm Perry Matheson.

01:25:46.000 We take you now live to a high-speed car chase between America's sweetheart, Kenneth Bone, who rose to notoriety after he asked a question at the Presidential Forum on Sunday.

01:25:59.000 But before, we'd like to show you this excerpt from earlier today where our on-the-ground reporter, Spoke with Mr.

01:26:07.000 Kenneth Bone's wife.

01:26:09.000 I just had no idea.

01:26:10.000 He was the most quiet man.

01:26:13.000 All he did was hang out in his dark room and play with his model trains.

01:26:17.000 Those never the ones you expect.

01:26:19.000 We take you now live to our helicopter camera with on the field reporter.

01:26:24.000 Jimmy, Jimmy, what are you seeing there?

01:26:26.000 Well, Perry, it is quite a sight here.

01:26:27.000 As you can see, Kenneth Bone is taking the local police on a high-speed car chase, testing them to their limits with his Geo Metro.

01:26:36.000 It is now confirmed that the chase has, in fact, made it up to 65 miles an hour.

01:26:41.000 That sounds horrific, Jimmy.

01:26:42.000 Any updates for the listeners?

01:26:44.000 You'll never take me alive, cappers!

01:26:47.000 I'll never cooperate with the fuzz!

01:26:49.000 Well, Perry, he seems to be entirely non-compliant, seems to be dead set on continuing this chase, and as you know, the Geo Metro got fantastic mileage, so this could go on for a while.

01:26:59.000 The horror is hard to comprehend.

01:27:01.000 Wait, oh, it appears that Kenneth Bone, Mr.

01:27:04.000 Kenneth, is pulling over the car.

01:27:06.000 Maybe he is going to surrender.

01:27:08.000 No, no, Jimmy, get the camera down there!

01:27:09.000 Get the camera down there!

01:27:10.000 You want it, cappers?

01:27:12.000 Come and get it!

01:27:13.000 You'll never get me in the back of your paddy wagon!

01:27:15.000 Hey!

01:27:18.000 Oh my word, Perry, he appears to have what is a Tommy gun.

01:27:22.000 This has gotten very violent very quickly, and he does have hand grenades.

01:27:27.000 He is lobbing them with unparalleled efficiency.

01:27:30.000 I've never seen anything like it.

01:27:32.000 I bet you didn't know old Keter's phone was in Nam.

01:27:35.000 I know how to use these things!

01:27:39.000 I'm the leader of the new world, pigs!

01:27:42.000 Permission to open fire on American sweetheart.

01:27:44.000 Confirm for a grant.

01:27:45.000 Ah! Ow!

01:27:47.000 Ah! Oh my God, Perry!

01:27:50.000 This has turned into just a gory, brutal scene.

01:27:53.000 There is blood and bits of red sweater everywhere.

01:27:57.000 No one expected it to end like this.

01:28:00.000 Not like this.

01:28:01.000 Oh, a sad end of the tale of a man who stole America's heart.

01:28:07.000 With his mustache, red sweater, and possibly misleading soft demeanor.

01:28:13.000 In retrospect, I'll keep you abreast as the story unfolds.

01:28:18.000 To our old crawler, I'm Perry Mojo.

01:28:26.000 And I don't want nobody's.

01:28:29.000 Want nobody's.

01:28:31.000 And I don't want nobody.

01:28:32.000 You've got that right.

01:28:35.000 And I don't want nobody.

01:28:37.000 I lost.

01:28:38.000 Want nobody.

01:28:39.000 And I don't want nobody.

01:28:42.000 Jail never need.

01:28:43.000 You've got that right.

01:28:45.000 And I don't want nobody.

01:28:47.000 I lost.

01:28:48.000 Oh, no slops, nigga.

01:28:49.000 And I don't want nobody.

01:28:51.000 Jail never need.

01:28:53.000 Love that bump.

01:28:54.000 Surprise guest Kurt Schilling is going to be on after this segment.

01:28:58.000 Gosh, I've got to take off these glasses.

01:29:00.000 They're not the right prescription, Jared.

01:29:00.000 I can't see them.

01:29:02.000 They're not.

01:29:03.000 You've got some nerve on you giving them not the right prescription.

01:29:04.000 They were four bucks from CVS. Hey, sincere message.

01:29:07.000 Thanks so much to Andrew Klavan and Gavin for staying longer.

01:29:10.000 We appreciate it.

01:29:11.000 And a lot of people think, well, I really do love them both.

01:29:13.000 I respect them both.

01:29:14.000 And like I said, I'm a contrarian bastard, so I have to kind of push them.

01:29:18.000 If nothing else, I don't think you'll be able to hear a balanced, nuanced conversation on Trump at many other places.

01:29:25.000 So hopefully it's either challenged what you think or maybe reinforced what you believe.

01:29:31.000 But hopefully it's been of some value.

01:29:32.000 Let's go back to absolutely despising Hillary Clinton.

01:29:35.000 The WikiLeaks situation, listen, by the time you hear this, there could be 50 more.

01:29:39.000 We've covered them at louderwithcrowder.com.

01:29:41.000 I recommend you go there as we cover the biggest ones of the day because I can't even get into them.

01:29:45.000 The worst one to me was...

01:29:47.000 That they said they knew Hillary Clinton knowingly deleted some of these emails.

01:29:52.000 That was from Podesta.

01:29:53.000 I thought that was really bad, but nobody cares at this point.

01:29:56.000 These people are all above the law.

01:29:57.000 All of these crappy politicians.

01:29:59.000 A couple of tweets people have been sending to me.

01:30:02.000 One is, what do you think about this?

01:30:04.000 And it was a story of Bill Clinton's sex slave coming forward from page 6.

01:30:11.000 You people...

01:30:13.000 So many people in this election are just morons.

01:30:16.000 Here's the deal.

01:30:17.000 Are you mental?

01:30:18.000 Bill Clinton has committed sexual assault.

01:30:22.000 We know that.

01:30:22.000 He's a philanderer.

01:30:23.000 We know that.

01:30:24.000 He's covered it up.

01:30:25.000 We know that.

01:30:26.000 Instead, you decide to overreach and lose by creating a sex slave from an orgy island.

01:30:33.000 And then Hillary Clinton has so much ammo she could use on Trump, but instead she overreaches and they fabricate this BS New York Times story.

01:30:41.000 It is just unbelievable to me how stupid people are in this election.

01:30:45.000 One thing I think you can say, this has brought the worst out of America.

01:30:49.000 The left is calling the right pedophiles, even though they defended them yesterday at Salon.com.

01:30:53.000 Now they're saying, well, Trump is a pedophile because he said he would date a 10-year-old girl.

01:30:57.000 I don't think Donald Trump's a pedophile at all.

01:30:59.000 I think Donald Trump is a guy who's a little bit of a BS-er and goes too far.

01:31:02.000 I think it was a, hey, you know, listen, you've got a great-looking daughter.

01:31:05.000 No, I mean, she's really beautiful.

01:31:05.000 Well, thank you.

01:31:07.000 Well, thank you.

01:31:07.000 You're going to have a beautiful girl.

01:31:08.000 I'd date her in 10 years.

01:31:10.000 Okay, Trump, that's too much.

01:31:11.000 I think that's probably what happened.

01:31:14.000 Um...

01:31:17.000 have the right, was it Lou Dobbs, doxed the woman who came out in New York Times today, put out her phone number and address, said that it was an accident, removed it, but the damage was done.

01:31:29.000 Thousands of people had posted it.

01:31:30.000 That's not right either.

01:31:31.000 That's a scummy thing to do.

01:31:33.000 And so it really has brought out the worst in the United States of America.

01:31:36.000 Something else that I want to talk about.

01:31:38.000 I see these tweets coming up.

01:31:39.000 You know, the electorate will change with Hillary Clinton.

01:31:41.000 If she wins, you think Latinos, conservatives can never win again.

01:31:44.000 Ha ha ha ha ha.

01:31:45.000 Again, this is what every single talking head does going up to an election.

01:31:48.000 They say, it's over.

01:31:49.000 Eeyore will never win.

01:31:50.000 The country's done.

01:31:51.000 Well, guess what?

01:31:52.000 That's exactly what all of these top five conservative radio hosts said.

01:31:55.000 And they made more money than ever.

01:31:56.000 And they continued to give you new ways you could fight the two weeks after election.

01:32:00.000 We're telling you right now, we're not saying the country's over.

01:32:02.000 And we're not saying afterwards that it's easy.

01:32:03.000 We do the opposite of what they do.

01:32:04.000 I'm so tired of this crap.

01:32:06.000 Let me tell you this.

01:32:07.000 That's not true.

01:32:09.000 It's not true.

01:32:10.000 The country is not over, regardless of who wins.

01:32:12.000 Win, lose, or draw.

01:32:13.000 Let me tell you why.

01:32:14.000 People say, oh, it's a Supreme Court voting base.

01:32:16.000 Okay.

01:32:16.000 Illegals tend to vote Democrat.

01:32:18.000 Yeah, but let's assume that there's some kind of order granted for amnesty for every single illegal citizen right away, and it's honored, and nobody else enforces it.

01:32:27.000 There's no push.

01:32:29.000 Sorry, nobody else enforces any kind of deportation.

01:32:32.000 There's no pushback.

01:32:33.000 Let's assume worst case scenario.

01:32:35.000 If colleges are the Democrat creating factories, right?

01:32:38.000 Gender studies, humanity, sociology 101.

01:32:42.000 You know what is the little Republican, the little conservative creating factories?

01:32:46.000 Jobs.

01:32:46.000 An economy out there, careers, skills.

01:32:49.000 Here's the thing.

01:32:51.000 Look at the Clintons.

01:32:52.000 Look at their laws on abortion.

01:32:53.000 Look at their laws on right to work.

01:32:54.000 Look at their assault weapons ban.

01:32:56.000 If people want to talk about guns, it was about as bad as it got ever with the Clintons.

01:32:59.000 And then it all changed back under Bush.

01:33:01.000 People say, oh, the Supreme Court.

01:33:02.000 Well, yeah, the Supreme Court ruled, if you look at the Heller case, that people have the right to bear arms.

01:33:06.000 And now they want to reverse it with Hillary Clinton.

01:33:08.000 And guess what?

01:33:09.000 That can be reversed.

01:33:10.000 But here's something else.

01:33:11.000 You want to change the demographics?

01:33:12.000 Let's look beyond just race.

01:33:14.000 Let's look beyond just gender.

01:33:16.000 If a Republican comes in, or if there's a Republican House or Senate, which is now up in the air, you have to acknowledge that, and that's a big part of Trump.

01:33:23.000 Win or lose.

01:33:23.000 He's a polarizing figure.

01:33:24.000 We may give Hillary Clinton, because we ran Trump, there's a possibility that because we didn't run someone else, By the way, in the leaked emails, they were terrified of Rubio.

01:33:33.000 They said Rubio's a guaranteed win.

01:33:35.000 He's the new Obama.

01:33:36.000 They wanted to run against Trump.

01:33:37.000 They were actively pushing Trump.

01:33:38.000 These are the leaked WikiLeaks.

01:33:40.000 You won't hear it because of the clickbait sites, but that's the reality.

01:33:43.000 But the possibility is if Trump loses because of the magnitude, we could be giving Hillary a Supreme Court House Senate.

01:33:51.000 But if we could change that back, House, Senate, at least.

01:33:54.000 Let's talk about the economy.

01:33:55.000 You want to know how you generate an entirely new generation of young conservatives?

01:33:59.000 Get them working.

01:34:01.000 Get them in.

01:34:02.000 Create incentives to bring jobs here to the United States.

01:34:05.000 Encourage kids to get out there and learn skills and trades.

01:34:08.000 Reduce government waste.

01:34:09.000 Remove entitlement programs.

01:34:11.000 Go out there and create a booming economy, reducing unemployment, bringing jobs back.

01:34:15.000 And once people have money...

01:34:16.000 What do they tend to do?

01:34:17.000 They tend to want to keep it.

01:34:18.000 They vote lower taxes.

01:34:19.000 What else do they do?

01:34:20.000 The more money they get, the more they have families.

01:34:23.000 They grow up.

01:34:24.000 They become conservatives.

01:34:25.000 To think that there will be an entirely irreversible, tectonic shift in the geographical, political landscape of the United States because of Hillary Clinton is not accurate, and it absolves you of what you need to do, regardless of the polls right now.

01:34:39.000 Go out and vote.

01:34:40.000 Go out and canvas.

01:34:41.000 Go out and knock on doors.

01:34:42.000 Go out and make phone calls for the candidate you support.

01:34:47.000 Whether that's Trump or Gary Johnson.

01:34:48.000 I know we have a lot of Gary Johnson people out there.

01:34:50.000 I think he's silly.

01:34:51.000 But I can respect your principles for doing that.

01:34:54.000 And then afterward, don't say, well, it's all Latinos now, so it's over.

01:34:57.000 It's not.

01:34:58.000 It's not.

01:34:59.000 The greatest Republican-creating factory there will be to change the vote is to get people employed, to get them in the workforce.

01:35:06.000 It can be shifted.

01:35:08.000 It's happened in my lifetime, both in the United States and Canada.

01:35:13.000 I'm amazed, though, at the hypocrisy.

01:35:15.000 How quick is the Joy Behar clip?

01:35:17.000 20 seconds.

01:35:18.000 20 seconds.

01:35:19.000 Joy Behar said this.

01:35:21.000 That's why when he brought up these allegations, I wonder if she missed the opportunity to address it in a way that the public would understand that that's just not how you behave.

01:35:34.000 I would like to apologize to those...

01:35:37.000 Tramps that have slept with my husband.

01:35:40.000 Maybe she could have said that.

01:35:41.000 All of a sudden, everyone who creates a BS story for the New York Times or Globe and Mail or any tabloid is to be believed, but people who came forward with hard evidence against Bill Clinton.

01:35:52.000 They're tramps.

01:35:53.000 Let's silence them.

01:35:54.000 This is Clever Comebacks with Bill Clinton. .

01:36:13.000 And so it's because of that, that unequivocally, with confidence, I can say that...

01:36:19.000 That you and your wife killed people?

01:36:22.000 But knew about your scandals?

01:36:24.000 No, that's not what I was going to say.

01:36:27.000 Specifically the rape?

01:36:29.000 Scandals?

01:36:30.000 Nah, that...

01:36:33.000 That's not...

01:36:34.000 accurate.

01:36:35.000 You are garbage!

01:36:36.000 You are just a garbage person!

01:36:39.000 Uh...

01:36:40.000 I'd argue that.

01:36:43.000 You can argue all you want, but you are...

01:36:45.000 a piece...

01:36:47.000 of human sh**.

01:36:50.000 You're just really a piece of sh**.

01:36:55.000 Well...

01:36:55.000 I... I disagree.

01:37:01.000 This has been Clever Comebacks with Bill Clinton.

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01:38:43.000 Glad to be back.

01:38:50.000 We have our guest.

01:38:51.000 We do.

01:38:52.000 Surprise guest.

01:38:52.000 He's all over the news right now, trending on the Twitter, friend of the show.

01:38:57.000 Hey, Kurt, I don't know the best...

01:38:58.000 What's the best plug for you?

01:39:00.000 It's hard to pronounce your Twitter handle.

01:39:03.000 Garrett38 is the Twitter, like Lou Garrett, Garrett38 at Garrett38.

01:39:09.000 Okay, got it.

01:39:09.000 And then my Saturday show is on KurtChillingShow.com.

01:39:13.000 KurtChillingShow.com.

01:39:14.000 Okay.

01:39:14.000 I know you've heard this ad nauseum, but for those who haven't heard this, I want to set it up and play the clip.

01:39:18.000 I think this is the definition of a non-troversy.

01:39:21.000 Donald Trump made a comment that sounded maybe a little creepy.

01:39:24.000 I'll give them that.

01:39:25.000 He said he would date a 10-year-old girl.

01:39:27.000 The media has jumped on it.

01:39:28.000 Regardless of your opinion, Kurt was on a program to talk about it, and I think he was trying to communicate it.

01:39:35.000 I don't understand where the loss in communication occurred.

01:39:37.000 Something that I think we'd all agree with.

01:39:38.000 Jared, let's roll the clip.

01:39:40.000 Well, I mean, I think it says more about you than it does about you.

01:39:41.000 So you tell me you see a 10-year-old girl and think, okay, yeah, I'm going to date her.

01:39:44.000 No, no, but I have a daughter.

01:39:46.000 My daughter has friends.

01:39:47.000 I've seen my daughter's friends.

01:39:48.000 I'm a man.

01:39:48.000 Wow, she's a beautiful young lady.

01:39:50.000 I don't immediately jump to molesting her, but that's where the right...

01:39:53.000 Do you need to follow that up?

01:39:57.000 So, I don't know why that's controversial at all.

01:40:01.000 Well, no, it's because...

01:40:03.000 Well, first of all...

01:40:05.000 Hold on, Kurt.

01:40:07.000 First of all, are you a child molester?

01:40:09.000 I don't want to get hung out to dry here.

01:40:11.000 Say for me no.

01:40:12.000 No, but isn't it terrifying that you have to caveat things now?

01:40:17.000 I know.

01:40:20.000 Yeah, you know, I've never molested a child, but, you know, I did stay at a Holiday Inn.

01:40:24.000 I mean, I don't understand how we got here.

01:40:28.000 Well, I guess I do.

01:40:28.000 I understand how we got here.

01:40:30.000 I certainly do that.

01:40:31.000 Well, you know why I was looking at it?

01:40:33.000 Because Vox, someone from Vox misquoted you saying something like, yeah, I want to date 10-year-old girls, and it was a quote, and I was like, well, In what context did Kurt say that?

01:40:42.000 And you didn't say that.

01:40:43.000 What you were saying is, for people who should watch the full clip, we'll run it at the site, is plenty of people say, hey, that's a beautiful young girl.

01:40:50.000 She'll be a heartbreaker someday.

01:40:53.000 That's it.

01:40:53.000 Every dad has said that.

01:40:54.000 And here's the thing.

01:40:55.000 Here's the thing.

01:40:56.000 I'm going to bet you and I are in the same boat.

01:40:58.000 I've never gone...

01:41:04.000 No, no, it's not.

01:41:17.000 I'm going to date her when she's 20 to meaning I'm going to molest and assault her.

01:41:22.000 Right.

01:41:22.000 Yeah.

01:41:22.000 And I think it was poor wording for sure.

01:41:25.000 I don't think yours was in the way Trump's was.

01:41:27.000 And I think it's a valid argument for someone to be like, you know what?

01:41:30.000 He says some crazy stuff.

01:41:32.000 That could be a liability.

01:41:33.000 But for people to take that and say, Curt Schilling wants to molest kids, again, that's what we were talking about.

01:41:39.000 And I see this on both the right and the left.

01:41:41.000 I think we can admit right now it is the clickbait culture where they know it's not true and they run it anyway.

01:41:46.000 Right.

01:41:47.000 Right.

01:41:47.000 Well, it's not the thing.

01:41:48.000 No, it's not true.

01:41:49.000 It's the level of offense that they get to.

01:41:55.000 Listen, again, I'm trending on Twitter because I said, I've looked at my daughter's girlfriend and said, you know what?

01:42:02.000 She's an attractive girl.

01:42:04.000 She's going to be an attractive girl.

01:42:05.000 I mean, like, you know, I have my youngest son.

01:42:07.000 I don't want him to hear this because his head will blow up.

01:42:10.000 He's an incredibly good-looking young man.

01:42:12.000 He's 14 years old.

01:42:13.000 You know how many women, adult women, I've said, oh, my God, he's gorgeous.

01:42:16.000 Yeah.

01:42:17.000 I didn't immediately go to, oh my god, she wants to bang him.

01:42:22.000 This is not going to help your case.

01:42:23.000 My mom did it with our friends who were black, and because my mom's French-Canadian and didn't see a whole lot of them, she said, oh, he's so good-looking, he's going to grow up, he's going to be like Denzel, watch the women around him.

01:42:35.000 Because it's the only good-looking black guy she knows.

01:42:37.000 I would argue she's a rapist.

01:42:39.000 Well, yes, she's a racist child molester.

01:42:43.000 But I mean, that's where we're at.

01:42:45.000 And it's funny because people are tweeting, oh, your political career is over.

01:42:50.000 Like, on what planet is someone going to be able – I'm not going to stand up on stage when Elizabeth Warren brings that soundbite out and go, yeah, that was me.

01:42:58.000 I'm really sorry.

01:42:59.000 I'm going to say, you dumbass.

01:43:00.000 You can't figure it out.

01:43:02.000 Yeah.

01:43:02.000 Well, Mediaite is really stupid.

01:43:04.000 One time they took a clear Photoshop.

01:43:05.000 I think it was like, Steven Crowder hates, like, I hate black people and everyone who's not white.

01:43:10.000 And they ran.

01:43:10.000 I'm like, that's clearly a Photoshop!

01:43:12.000 And you know what's funny with that?

01:43:15.000 There's such non-issues that they don't even bother you.

01:43:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:43:18.000 Listen, I don't care.

01:43:21.000 Here's the thing I would tell people.

01:43:22.000 All of you people that are tagging me on Twitter...

01:43:25.000 I don't give a shit what you think.

01:43:27.000 I don't care.

01:43:29.000 You're not somebody's vote I'm trying to win.

01:43:31.000 You don't like me to begin with.

01:43:32.000 I don't care.

01:43:33.000 If you're going to infer the things you're inferring, then you're an idiot.

01:43:37.000 It says far more about them than it does me.

01:43:39.000 If they can make the jump from, oh my god, he wants to molest her.

01:43:44.000 I mean, what the hell is wrong with people?

01:43:47.000 That's the country.

01:43:48.000 And here's the biggest problem for me.

01:43:50.000 I was really pissed off last week when the Trump stuff came out for a lot of different reasons, but I was really pissed at him.

01:43:56.000 And then somebody talked some sentence to me as I did my show that morning about, listen, he didn't say it last night.

01:44:02.000 Now, that doesn't, again, we have to caveat this every time.

01:44:05.000 He didn't say it last night.

01:44:06.000 That doesn't make it okay.

01:44:07.000 It's like every time someone says, you know, on TV, well, he's gay, but that doesn't make him a bad person.

01:44:12.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:44:14.000 Yeah.

01:44:14.000 Except in not gay Jared's case.

01:44:16.000 You had a question, Jared.

01:44:17.000 Hold on, Jared.

01:44:18.000 Oh, go ahead.

01:44:18.000 No, I had a question.

01:44:19.000 Oh, never mind.

01:44:19.000 I thought you had a question.

01:44:20.000 You just wanted to speak because you like to hear yourself talk.

01:44:22.000 It's true.

01:44:23.000 I was going to say people made the same assumption about me as a child saying I was going to be a beautiful man.

01:44:28.000 Well, that was just poor betting odds.

01:44:29.000 And they were wrong.

01:44:30.000 Yeah.

01:44:30.000 So, sometimes these people are wrong.

01:44:32.000 These perverts are wrong.

01:44:33.000 But here's the thing.

01:44:34.000 The thing that pisses me off, like I said, Steve, is last week I was mad about Trump and all this stuff.

01:44:38.000 And then I realized The entire media, and obviously on the deal as well, has made it to the point where we don't get to spend any time talking about the issues.

01:44:51.000 Yeah, I think so, too.

01:44:53.000 We were talking about this earlier.

01:44:54.000 I think it comes down to the issues.

01:44:57.000 However, I'm not going to give the caveat where I somehow now think adultery is okay.

01:45:01.000 I hated it when Clinton did it, and I'm not a fan of Trump doing it, but I would rather have an adulterer who wants me to pay lower taxes at that point, if that makes sense.

01:45:09.000 Well, let's be very clear about something, all right?

01:45:12.000 Today she asked me on TV... How do you feel about this guy saying, this guy saying this, this guy saying that?

01:45:19.000 At the end of the conversation, I said, listen, I would much rather have someone who's talked like an idiot than one who's acted like an idiot.

01:45:26.000 He's talked about a lot of dumb stuff.

01:45:28.000 He's said things that are absolutely embarrassing, and there's nobody on the planet that condones any of them.

01:45:34.000 But she's done the stuff that we talk about.

01:45:38.000 She's made herself into a candidate, even though as vile and disgusting of a human being as she is, She's literally leading for our presidency.

01:45:48.000 That, to me, It says that we're in a very, very deep, dark, mysterious place.

01:45:52.000 I was saying this election, I think, has brought out the worst from both the left and the right.

01:45:56.000 They're calling you pedophiles.

01:45:58.000 And then the right, you saw with Lou Dobbs, we were just talking about doxing, accidentally or not, this woman who came forward for the New York Times, whether her alleging it is BS or not.

01:46:06.000 Let me give my opinion on that because people are asking.

01:46:08.000 I think her story is BS. I do think Trump has probably crossed some lines with women, not based on that story, but based on other stories.

01:46:16.000 I think the New York Times story is BS, but I still don't think someone should post your phone number or address.

01:46:21.000 And that damage has been done.

01:46:22.000 And so for people to call you a pedophile, then the doxing, it makes me genuinely disgusted with the state of the election all around.

01:46:30.000 And if that makes me anti-Trump and anti-Hillary, I guess so be it.

01:46:34.000 But I just can't lie about that.

01:46:36.000 No, and here's the thing.

01:46:38.000 If you're a conservative, if you're a rational-thinking American, you're pissed off about everything that's happening.

01:46:43.000 Because you understand media has hijacked all of this.

01:46:46.000 And we're partially to blame.

01:46:50.000 Exactly.

01:46:50.000 We're partially to blame, number one.

01:46:53.000 And number two, who on this planet, I'll give you an example, Ted Cruz not endorsing or Paul Ryan backing away, that doesn't mean anything to me.

01:47:04.000 We're a celebrity.

01:47:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:47:09.000 And so we are really dealing with – and when liberals say it, it's a catchphrase.

01:47:14.000 When conservatives say it, we're racist, we're dealing with low-information voters.

01:47:19.000 That is the only possible way that Hillary Clinton can get a vote.

01:47:24.000 You have to not know that she's lived her life scamming people.

01:47:27.000 She's stealing from survivors in the third world of an earthquake.

01:47:31.000 She helped bury the women who her husband raped and assaulted.

01:47:34.000 I mean, the list goes on and on and on.

01:47:37.000 And the fact of the matter is, that woman is getting our votes.

01:47:40.000 She's not getting our votes.

01:47:42.000 Hold on, Mr.

01:47:43.000 Child Molester.

01:47:44.000 Okay, I'll allow the objectification of 10-year-old girls, but I will not be accused of being a Hillary voter.

01:47:52.000 It is one of those situations, though, really, when I read this, I thought there was going to be more to it.

01:47:57.000 And I think Donald Trump should have worded it much more carefully.

01:48:01.000 In your case, I was like, I don't even think this is an issue.

01:48:04.000 I mean, listen...

01:48:06.000 No, I was saying earlier, I think this is what happened with Trump.

01:48:08.000 And you tell me, I think Trump, I think we all know, like, we've all met people who are a little bit of BSers, like, who want to make you feel good.

01:48:13.000 And what I think is, hey, that's a great-looking girl.

01:48:15.000 Well, thanks.

01:48:16.000 I mean, she's really a knockout.

01:48:17.000 Well, thank you.

01:48:17.000 I dated her in 10 years.

01:48:19.000 You didn't need to say that.

01:48:19.000 Too far, Trump.

01:48:20.000 That's probably what happened.

01:48:22.000 Here's the problem.

01:48:23.000 I grew up in, quote-unquote, the locker room.

01:48:27.000 The things he said on the bus and the things in this video, they're spoken like a guy who doesn't speak like this.

01:48:34.000 Like, he was being so awkward on the bus.

01:48:37.000 You think he was trying to fluff his resume a bit?

01:48:40.000 Well, he was trying to be funny.

01:48:42.000 On the bus, he was clearly trying to be funny, and none of the stuff he's...

01:48:45.000 Like, I've never heard people talk the way he says the things he said.

01:48:49.000 Like, people that talk trash, they don't talk like that.

01:48:52.000 They talk a lot worse than that.

01:48:54.000 And having, again, having been around the...

01:48:56.000 Listen, I don't know if I'll go with you on that, but I'm entertaining it.

01:49:01.000 The locker room in sports is the most sexist, racist, foul place in the world because what you see here and what you hear here, let it stay here when you leave here.

01:49:13.000 That was always the motto in the locker room.

01:49:15.000 And so guys, you're not okay.

01:49:18.000 You're not condoning them.

01:49:20.000 It's just what they do.

01:49:21.000 You ever been in a conversation with someone who he is the only person in the conversation or she that doesn't realize that they're being an idiot?

01:49:28.000 And you're looking around the room going, is this person for real?

01:49:31.000 I think I know that person quite well.

01:49:34.000 But everybody else is looking at each other or they're laughing very uncomfortably.

01:49:39.000 Right.

01:49:39.000 Because they don't know what else to do.

01:49:40.000 That was the bust for me.

01:49:42.000 Those guys were laughing at him because it wasn't funny, but they were uncomfortable.

01:49:45.000 Right.

01:49:46.000 All right.

01:49:46.000 Well, Kurt, best place to find you, we have to let you go, was a short thank you for surprising us, gracing us.

01:49:51.000 What's your Twitter handle?

01:49:53.000 Gehrig38, at Gehrig38, G-E-H-R-I-G, and then my show Saturday mornings on KurtShillingShow.com.

01:50:01.000 KurtShilling.com.

01:50:03.000 You be the judge.

01:50:04.000 I'm just looking out for the folks.

01:50:06.000 Active serial pedophile?

01:50:07.000 Not?

01:50:08.000 Who knows?

01:50:09.000 You decide.

01:50:11.000 I can't believe we are here.

01:50:13.000 Oh, Nick DiPaolo up next.

01:50:14.000 And then we'll play Hipster Hobo with you on Twitter.

01:50:17.000 Stay tuned.

01:50:18.000 Stay tuned.

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01:52:20.000 Oh yeah!

01:52:31.000 Oh!

01:52:33.000 Oh! Oh! Oh!

01:52:37.000 I figured it was perfectly fitting for our next guest also with everything going on this evening.

01:52:41.000 You can follow his podcast on iTunes for free once a week, or I highly recommend it.

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01:52:50.000 Or subscribe to the podcast, connectpal.com slash Nick for my money.

01:52:56.000 I would say one of the funniest people alive.

01:52:58.000 I've talked to Norm MacDonald and Nick DiPaolo.

01:53:00.000 Thank you for being here, sir.

01:53:02.000 Norm is my favorite, by the way.

01:53:03.000 You have exquisite taste.

01:53:06.000 Thank you very much.

01:53:07.000 He's a litmus test for me.

01:53:09.000 If I throw out his name and someone says, I don't find him, done.

01:53:12.000 We're not friends.

01:53:13.000 Yes.

01:53:14.000 Colin Quinn, too, is a litmus test for me.

01:53:17.000 Colin Quinn, the problem with him is I think he wasn't great on SNL, and so a lot of people have only seen that.

01:53:23.000 If they don't know his stand-up, it can skew the demos a little bit.

01:53:27.000 Yeah, well, that's their problem.

01:53:29.000 They have to...

01:53:30.000 They have to do their research if they're going to be comedy fans and not be lazy about it.

01:53:33.000 Now, you look like a transgender guy who's eight months pregnant.

01:53:37.000 Well, that's what we were going for.

01:53:38.000 If you give me the profile shot, that's what...

01:53:41.000 I don't think you're supposed...

01:53:42.000 Well, men can get pregnant, too.

01:53:44.000 I don't know if you've been reading the news lately.

01:53:46.000 Yeah, that's what you look like.

01:53:47.000 Yeah, well, listen, we aim to please and we put a lot of effort into it.

01:53:51.000 This took a while to get this get-up going.

01:53:53.000 Well, you look like my Italian grandmother in a sweater.

01:53:57.000 Well, I think, if anything, we've learned that Nick has poor genetics, so that would explain the hernias.

01:54:03.000 Nick, by the way, for those of you who are like, well, why is he not laughing?

01:54:05.000 A, the show's not that funny.

01:54:07.000 B, he had a hernia surgery, so you've got to be careful, right?

01:54:09.000 I do.

01:54:10.000 I get three pieces of tape.

01:54:13.000 I do.

01:54:14.000 And there's blood coming through the tape.

01:54:16.000 I had two hernias.

01:54:17.000 The guy did it, the lapiscopic, so he had to make a third hole to put the camera in.

01:54:23.000 And luckily, he was in it long enough where I could get my SAG card.

01:54:30.000 For those of you learning, you're like, what's the fag?

01:54:32.000 Union card, people.

01:54:33.000 Yeah, so I'm bleeding through scars.

01:54:35.000 I'm being held together by tape here.

01:54:37.000 Gosh.

01:54:37.000 How do you get to two hernias, though?

01:54:39.000 I mean, a hernia's not something you miss easily.

01:54:41.000 It's not like a prostate exam.

01:54:43.000 I was a power lifter in Russia.

01:54:46.000 No, I don't know.

01:54:48.000 You know, you put on too much...

01:54:49.000 No, it's just from, you know, it's athletics.

01:54:52.000 You know, you have sports hernias?

01:54:55.000 No.

01:54:56.000 You never heard of a sports tournament?

01:54:57.000 No, actually, my dad had one.

01:54:58.000 My dad had one, and he was a little concerned about it.

01:55:00.000 And then it went away.

01:55:01.000 I guess they can go away.

01:55:02.000 Yeah, this one...

01:55:03.000 I was diagnosed 17 years ago by an Indian guy in Queens, New York.

01:55:09.000 This is when you were playing baseball?

01:55:11.000 No.

01:55:15.000 No.

01:55:16.000 And I said, I went and got a second opinion.

01:55:19.000 The guy goes, well, this one doesn't have to be done yet, but you might want to get that.

01:55:21.000 And I just kept ignoring it.

01:55:23.000 And then you exercise, you do P90X, and you jump around, and you age 20 years, you put on a few pounds.

01:55:30.000 And the pain was getting excruciating, just sitting at the desk doing a podcast.

01:55:36.000 So I said, I've got to get this fixed.

01:55:38.000 Yeah, if you can't podcast, the next step is disability.

01:55:41.000 That's exactly right.

01:55:42.000 You know, when podcasting becomes too much.

01:55:46.000 And I did P90X for, you know, you're supposed to do that for three months.

01:55:50.000 I did it for about 14 months and turned my hips and knees into a fine powder.

01:55:56.000 I can't keep up now.

01:55:57.000 I used to make fun of people who worked out in their living rooms.

01:56:01.000 Now I can't even keep up with the...

01:56:04.000 I have to do the modified version of the exercise.

01:56:07.000 You know, they always have a fat girl on the front.

01:56:10.000 If you can't do this, just get yourself some rubber bands and lower yourself under the bench.

01:56:15.000 Exactly.

01:56:15.000 Everybody else behind us is doing one-arm push-ups, and me and Catherine are going like this.

01:56:22.000 Well, yeah, P90X is not meant to do long-term, so...

01:56:26.000 Yeah, nobody told me that.

01:56:27.000 I got addicted with it, because it really got me in good shape.

01:56:30.000 But now when I come down the stairs in the morning, it sounds like I'm walking on bubble wrap.

01:56:34.000 Yeah.

01:56:35.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:56:36.000 Usually people go in for that and get some glucosamine, and they sell to Paolo's joints as glucosamine.

01:56:41.000 This is the powder you're looking for.

01:56:43.000 Well, you know what?

01:56:45.000 Yeah, it's not made to do long-term.

01:56:47.000 I will let you know.

01:56:48.000 Hopefully, just going forward, you need to find some balance, Nick.

01:56:50.000 That way, you can do a little bit of both.

01:56:51.000 The real question is, are you enjoying that third hole?

01:56:54.000 That's the one burning our minds right now.

01:56:56.000 Well, there's four now, Jerry.

01:56:58.000 There's four.

01:56:58.000 We said third.

01:56:59.000 Well, actually, it is.

01:57:00.000 Oh.

01:57:01.000 You counted three.

01:57:01.000 Like five.

01:57:03.000 I picture when you drink, he's like in Gremlins 2, awful movie, where the gremlin drinks and just the cocktail comes out of him.

01:57:10.000 We've got thousands of people listening around trying to count those holes and figure them out.

01:57:12.000 Let's not continue with that.

01:57:13.000 So I want to say that I was surprised.

01:57:15.000 You were on the show, and you talked about Trump making fun of that guy.

01:57:17.000 I don't remember!

01:57:18.000 And how funny you thought it was.

01:57:20.000 Yeah, that's when I voted, decided to vote for him.

01:57:23.000 And actually, that's one of those things, for all the criticisms we have of Trump, I like that he speaks his mind.

01:57:27.000 I was shocked when we were talking off-air, and you said, initially, I don't want to let the cat out of the bag, so you can correct me, you were a Ted Cruz fan.

01:57:35.000 Clarify.

01:57:35.000 Well, it was.

01:57:35.000 Because he seemed to be the most...

01:57:37.000 And again, I'm not as conservative as Ted Cruz.

01:57:40.000 Right.

01:57:40.000 I just think that the country moved so far left, we needed somebody that conservative to sort of swing the pendulum back.

01:57:47.000 Yeah.

01:57:48.000 And...

01:57:49.000 He had been fighting Obama tooth and nail on a lot of stuff from day one, and he was doing it inside of Washington.

01:57:57.000 And now all the same people that hate him hate Trump.

01:58:04.000 So yeah, I went with Cruz, because I know he's a smart guy.

01:58:07.000 Even the lib said, he's a bright guy.

01:58:10.000 But now that I've seen Trump and the way he's bare-knuckle brawling, I like it.

01:58:17.000 I like the new alt-rights.

01:58:19.000 Oh, God.

01:58:19.000 We just had a conversation about this.

01:58:22.000 Is that a bad thing?

01:58:23.000 No, no.

01:58:23.000 We just had a whole talk about it, and people have differing opinions.

01:58:26.000 I think it depends on how you get into it.

01:58:28.000 I think there's a lot of good, and then we had Clavan on, who's not a fan.

01:58:31.000 Do you think, gun to your head, you have to bet your life, your family's life, who wins?

01:58:37.000 Not who do you want to win, Trump or Hillary.

01:58:38.000 Who do you think wins?

01:58:39.000 Well, what kind of gun is it?

01:58:40.000 Is it still legal?

01:58:42.000 Well, it could go either way, regardless of who's president.

01:58:45.000 The no-fly, no-buy.

01:58:47.000 It's like, ah, just give me one president who understands the Second Amendment when we don't have an option there.

01:58:51.000 But who do you think?

01:58:53.000 Your head, not your heart.

01:58:54.000 Who do you think wins?

01:58:56.000 In my head?

01:58:57.000 This is really tough for me.

01:58:59.000 Yeah.

01:58:59.000 Because I think it's rigged, just based on all the WikiLeaks, and it's obviously rigged for this thick-ankled dogface, and for the lower half of Earl Campbell.

01:59:11.000 Nick DiPaolo, 2020, people.

01:59:13.000 No leaked tapes necessary.

01:59:15.000 But on the other hand, I think there's a groundswell that the polls are not indicating for Trump.

01:59:23.000 I think so many people are afraid to admit they're going to vote for him.

01:59:26.000 I don't know why.

01:59:28.000 There could be sort of a Brexit...

01:59:30.000 You know, when they were shocked?

01:59:34.000 It could be if you look at the demos.

01:59:36.000 I don't think so.

01:59:37.000 And it wouldn't explain how the polls have been so consistent where Trump fumbles and the polls go down or post-convention.

01:59:43.000 It still followed that.

01:59:44.000 So if they were rigged or people were ashamed, that wouldn't change.

01:59:48.000 But you could be right.

01:59:48.000 We have to go.

01:59:49.000 We'll be back.

01:59:50.000 Nick DePaule, we're going to play hipster or hobo.

01:59:52.000 We'll try and keep it less funny because we want to be nice to our guests.

01:59:55.000 I don't know.

01:59:55.000 And we need another Percocet.

01:59:56.000 I want to believe.

01:59:57.000 Well, that'll happen.

01:59:59.000 but let's do it.

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02:01:25.000 Hey!

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02:01:28.000 What did I tell you about that?

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02:01:40.000 I don't want to hear another sniffle, Reek.

02:01:42.000 I'm sorry.

02:02:08.000 Oh, gosh.

02:02:09.000 Every time Nick DiPaolo comes on, I need to get a wrist brace to protect my knuckles from all of this.

02:02:15.000 Oh, Lord.

02:02:16.000 What is this, Nick?

02:02:17.000 What's the story behind this?

02:02:19.000 What's that?

02:02:19.000 Did your wife give you that?

02:02:21.000 Oh, no.

02:02:22.000 The doctor gave it to me.

02:02:23.000 It's the guy who operates.

02:02:25.000 You must have the best doctor going.

02:02:27.000 He said he didn't want to get blood on his white coat.

02:02:29.000 This is how he operated on.

02:02:31.000 Well, that's a perfect doctor for a comedian, for those listening terrestrially.

02:02:34.000 It's a very gay picture, borderline pornographic.

02:02:36.000 Yeah, I know.

02:02:37.000 My wife wrote something dirty on it.

02:02:39.000 But, you know, and then I started reading this in the hospital.

02:02:42.000 I was asked to leave my adult coloring therapeutic group.

02:02:45.000 Well, there you go.

02:02:45.000 You're a borderline brony.

02:02:47.000 Connectpal.com slash Nick, by the way.

02:02:49.000 Let's get your plug.

02:02:50.000 This broad gets yourself in a lot of jams.

02:02:52.000 You ought to pick up this book.

02:02:53.000 Okay.

02:02:55.000 I can be a dance star.

02:02:57.000 And I say, well, what's keeping you from becoming a dance star, bitch?

02:03:00.000 Anyways.

02:03:02.000 Another professional victim.

02:03:04.000 Another glass ceiling in the dance world.

02:03:07.000 Yeah, for Barbie.

02:03:08.000 By the way, have you seen they want to have normal figured Barbie?

02:03:10.000 Have you seen that now?

02:03:11.000 What would be normal figures?

02:03:13.000 Fatter.

02:03:15.000 Like the girl that Trump was giving a hard time, the Miss Beauty Queen from Columbia or wherever?

02:03:19.000 Yep, yep.

02:03:19.000 The one who gained all the weight and almost looked like Hillary Clinton light.

02:03:22.000 That one.

02:03:23.000 Yep.

02:03:23.000 They're trying to have normal Barbie now, which is horrible because they try and tell you what normal is and it's just what guys don't really like.

02:03:29.000 You know, it's like, ah, the normal Barbie is less bosomy, but fatter.

02:03:33.000 And there's nothing wrong.

02:03:34.000 Guys like all different kinds of body types.

02:03:36.000 But some women actually look like that.

02:03:38.000 No, it's true.

02:03:39.000 No, but it's wider than women think, right?

02:03:41.000 Like, let's say you're 5'5", there's about a 100-pound variance where guys will find you attractive.

02:03:45.000 Like, there's a type for every guy, but they think that all guys want what the gay men have created on the cover of women's magazines.

02:03:52.000 Or if you look at men's magazines, it's a little bit wider of a spectrum.

02:03:55.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

02:03:57.000 The biggest girl I ever dated was, she was like the captain of basketball team at the University of Maine.

02:04:03.000 She was a couple years, a year younger than me, but she was probably about 5'11", I'd say about 150.

02:04:11.000 Oh.

02:04:11.000 But, well, I mean, just athletic.

02:04:14.000 Yeah.

02:04:14.000 Muscular legs.

02:04:15.000 Yeah.

02:04:16.000 He threw me around the door.

02:04:16.000 I'm like a little girl.

02:04:17.000 I loved it.

02:04:18.000 Yeah.

02:04:18.000 He had a half door swing there, and Nick just went along for the ride.

02:04:22.000 Okay.

02:04:22.000 The rules for this game.

02:04:23.000 We were waiting to play this with you.

02:04:26.000 Hipster Hobo, the rules are this.

02:04:28.000 Night Gay Jared is going to show you and I a picture.

02:04:30.000 Okay.

02:04:31.000 The audience can tweet us, tweet along with us.

02:04:33.000 I'm at S. Crowder.

02:04:34.000 Are you just at Nick DiPaolo?

02:04:35.000 At Nick DiPaolo, correct, sir.

02:04:37.000 At Nick DiPaolo, and we're going to have to guess if it's a hipster or hobo, and then we'll tally up the score at the end of it.

02:04:42.000 Do you have any questions, Mr.

02:04:43.000 Percocet?

02:04:44.000 Well, just remind people that I think I was like 5 for 5 with the transgender thing we did last time.

02:04:51.000 Did he win?

02:04:52.000 I think he did, maybe.

02:04:54.000 No one wins at that game.

02:04:56.000 Just like this game, let's roll the intro.

02:04:59.000 Hipster or hobo, let's go.

02:05:02.000 Hipster or hobo, I wish I knew.

02:05:07.000 Hipster or hobo, both look like crackheads, both are obnoxious assholes, both will destroy the value of your property.

02:05:24.000 High production value here, Nick.

02:05:27.000 That's how we do it.

02:05:28.000 We get the rights to all of these songs.

02:05:29.000 All right.

02:05:30.000 Was that Paul Simon?

02:05:31.000 Boy, he's hit a new low.

02:05:32.000 Yeah, I know.

02:05:33.000 I know.

02:05:34.000 A little pitchy, if I'm going to be honest.

02:05:36.000 Okay, not good, Jared.

02:05:37.000 Let's hit us with the first picture.

02:05:38.000 Number one.

02:05:39.000 Okay, number one.

02:05:41.000 Is this a hipster or hobo?

02:05:43.000 You can tweet us along.

02:05:44.000 Nick, do you think that's a hipster or hobo?

02:05:46.000 It's no white hobos, at least not New York.

02:05:51.000 That's a hipster.

02:05:52.000 You're going to say hipster?

02:05:53.000 People will probably, yeah, Twitter.

02:05:56.000 Everyone thinks that's a hipster.

02:05:57.000 I'm going to go hipster.

02:06:02.000 That one is a hipster, you see.

02:06:05.000 He won't go to school unless it's free.

02:06:10.000 Bernie.

02:06:12.000 Well, there we go.

02:06:13.000 Hipster.

02:06:14.000 Okay, we're both one and one.

02:06:15.000 Yep.

02:06:16.000 So hopefully these get progressively harder.

02:06:18.000 They will.

02:06:18.000 And less FCC friendly.

02:06:20.000 One and one.

02:06:21.000 Let's give them another one.

02:06:22.000 Okay, Jared.

02:06:22.000 There we go.

02:06:23.000 Ooh.

02:06:24.000 I don't even know.

02:06:25.000 That could be in Spot the Tranny as well.

02:06:27.000 Nick, hipster or hobo on that one?

02:06:28.000 It's a hipster.

02:06:29.000 You're going to say hipster?

02:06:30.000 I'm going to say hobo, and then I want to know if it's a man or a woman.

02:06:34.000 No.

02:06:38.000 That one is a hobo, you see.

02:06:41.000 He sells bottles, cans, and is d*** cheap.

02:06:49.000 That got dark quickly.

02:06:50.000 That got dark, not a hand.

02:06:52.000 Yeah, there's no difference between a hipster and a hobo in Seattle.

02:06:55.000 It's true.

02:06:56.000 Or Portland, or Austin.

02:06:58.000 I'm quite homeless in Seattle.

02:07:00.000 I go, what's your excuse?

02:07:02.000 I know, and we were talking about this.

02:07:03.000 You feel empathetic for everybody, but you definitely have...

02:07:07.000 You don't?

02:07:08.000 Not at all?

02:07:08.000 No, I'm shooting a special at the end of the month.

02:07:11.000 Yeah.

02:07:12.000 I went out with a stand-up special.

02:07:13.000 You know what the name of it is?

02:07:15.000 Compassion fatigue.

02:07:17.000 Well, you know the highest homeless people per capita?

02:07:20.000 Do you know where it is in North America?

02:07:23.000 I would say per capita.

02:07:26.000 I would say the most homeless people per capita in North America.

02:07:30.000 That would have to be...

02:07:31.000 That would have to be...

02:07:37.000 Right now, well...

02:07:38.000 It's close to...

02:07:38.000 Montreal was up there, at least, for a long time, which surprises people.

02:07:41.000 I was going to say Toronto.

02:07:43.000 Toronto?

02:07:43.000 Really?

02:07:44.000 Toronto?

02:07:45.000 Seattle.

02:07:46.000 Seattle?

02:07:46.000 I'd say, yeah, no, Montreal, which is funny because of the socialism safety net.

02:07:50.000 There's a lot.

02:07:51.000 There's a lot when it's really, you know, it's socialist, you know, paying 52% income tax, and you picture that safety net.

02:07:56.000 I don't know if it's the top anymore, but there were a couple years where it was shockingly high.

02:08:00.000 Like, way higher than Boston or Seattle.

02:08:02.000 Yeah.

02:08:02.000 Yeah, I remember being up at the festival and stepping over a few people while I was eating a cheesesteak.

02:08:07.000 Yes, naturally.

02:08:09.000 This is why people visit Montreal.

02:08:11.000 Alright, let's go to this next one.

02:08:13.000 I think we're two in...

02:08:14.000 Well, no, no, no.

02:08:15.000 I'm two.

02:08:15.000 He's one.

02:08:16.000 I'm better with the hobos than trannies.

02:08:18.000 Go ahead.

02:08:19.000 This one.

02:08:20.000 Okay.

02:08:21.000 Nick, guess choice first.

02:08:23.000 Is that a hipster or hobo?

02:08:24.000 Well, that's either...

02:08:25.000 You can have hipsters in the late 70s?

02:08:27.000 Oh, yeah.

02:08:28.000 Oh, yeah.

02:08:29.000 Really?

02:08:30.000 Yeah, they troll grade schools with paneled vans.

02:08:33.000 That's...

02:08:35.000 Have you seen him lately, fellas?

02:08:38.000 He's in the back of my car.

02:08:39.000 That looks like a hipster who fell off a 12-story building.

02:08:44.000 No, I'm going to go.

02:08:45.000 That's a hobo.

02:08:46.000 You know what?

02:08:47.000 I'm going to say it seems so obviously a hobo, like you said, that it's designed to trick us.

02:08:52.000 I'm going to say hipster.

02:08:57.000 That one is a corpse, you see.

02:09:00.000 He had some dirt on Hillary.

02:09:05.000 That was a race there.

02:09:07.000 I don't know how he scored that one.

02:09:09.000 I don't know.

02:09:10.000 Everyone loses.

02:09:11.000 It was a corpse, and he's going to be buried in the same plot as Vince Foster.

02:09:17.000 He found his bike on K Street.

02:09:19.000 Yeah.

02:09:21.000 I think it's okay.

02:09:22.000 I don't know.

02:09:23.000 Let's call that a wash.

02:09:24.000 We'll call that a wash.

02:09:25.000 I think everyone was fooled on that.

02:09:26.000 Twitter seems a little...

02:09:26.000 That guy ought to try it.

02:09:27.000 I can smell it from here.

02:09:28.000 Yes.

02:09:29.000 Well, that's what happens.

02:09:30.000 Bodies decompose.

02:09:31.000 Neck, you should be...

02:09:32.000 Was that really a corpse?

02:09:34.000 Yes.

02:09:36.000 No kidding.

02:09:37.000 Yeah.

02:09:37.000 That's why I can't run for president.

02:09:39.000 We don't need any leaked tapes.

02:09:40.000 They can just roll this on a loop.

02:09:42.000 I look very relaxed.

02:09:43.000 I think everybody should be drunk.

02:09:45.000 Well, it's tough.

02:09:46.000 You never know.

02:09:47.000 Not good, Jared.

02:09:48.000 Let's give us another one here.

02:09:48.000 Let's see.

02:09:50.000 Oh, wow.

02:09:51.000 That's cheating because you have a MacBook.

02:09:53.000 Well, see, this seems obvious.

02:09:55.000 What Jared showed us, a close-up of a Letterman's jacket and a MacBook.

02:10:00.000 I got a theory on that, though.

02:10:02.000 That's it.

02:10:03.000 That's a hobo who stole stuff from a hipster.

02:10:06.000 That's a hobo who stole stuff from a hipster?

02:10:08.000 Yeah.

02:10:09.000 I think Nick is right.

02:10:10.000 It's rarely the obvious answer, so I think Nick and I are both going to say hobo on that one.

02:10:15.000 Hobo?

02:10:15.000 Yeah.

02:10:20.000 Yes, that one's a hobo, you see.

02:10:23.000 He lives in a box.

02:10:24.000 He smells like pee.

02:10:26.000 Mm-hmm.

02:10:28.000 Mm-hmm.

02:10:30.000 Nick, he got one.

02:10:31.000 He's doing one.

02:10:32.000 He's getting it.

02:10:33.000 There you go.

02:10:33.000 He's getting it.

02:10:34.000 I didn't even got one.

02:10:34.000 I got a couple.

02:10:35.000 Yeah, you have two.

02:10:36.000 Well, it's two.

02:10:36.000 Two out of three.

02:10:38.000 Yeah, two, three.

02:10:39.000 So I'm three, you're two.

02:10:40.000 Look at him.

02:10:40.000 He's already the Percocet.

02:10:41.000 He's already eating another one.

02:10:42.000 He's scratching himself.

02:10:44.000 Look at him.

02:10:44.000 He's like, I gotta get another Vicodin.

02:10:46.000 No, this isn't the Percocet.

02:10:47.000 This is the heroin.

02:10:48.000 Yeah.

02:10:49.000 Well, that's how people...

02:10:50.000 It's the heroin.

02:10:51.000 You know, funny enough, heroin, Percocet, very similar, but heroin's easier in the liver.

02:10:54.000 That's how a lot of people get shifted over to it.

02:10:57.000 Is it the Percocet that gets you on the heroin?

02:11:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:11:00.000 Do you know they still give you heroin in certain European hospitals?

02:11:03.000 It was designed as a synthetic, non-addictive alternative to morphine.

02:11:07.000 Right.

02:11:08.000 And then bass player Rolling Stone's got a hold of it.

02:11:12.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

02:11:14.000 Yeah.

02:11:15.000 I think it still happens in the UK. Or certain hospitals I read, they give you heroin to this day.

02:11:20.000 It's an actual clinical painkiller.

02:11:21.000 So, you know, ask for the good stuff next time.

02:11:24.000 Three and two.

02:11:25.000 Three and two.

02:11:26.000 Hit us with another one.

02:11:28.000 All right.

02:11:28.000 Well, you're cheating with these ones.

02:11:29.000 You're not giving us enough context.

02:11:31.000 That's a tie-dye shirt with a jacket that looks kind of American apparel.

02:11:36.000 Nick, what do you think?

02:11:37.000 That's a hobo.

02:11:38.000 You say hobo?

02:11:39.000 I'm going to say hipster.

02:11:40.000 Let's divide this one.

02:11:41.000 A hobo or a homo?

02:11:42.000 Well, it could be both.

02:11:43.000 I say hipster.

02:11:44.000 Not gay, Jerry.

02:11:49.000 That one is a hipster, you see.

02:11:51.000 He's also gay.

02:11:53.000 He has HIV. That's not fair.

02:11:55.000 It's Kanye West!

02:11:59.000 What's my name working?

02:12:00.000 I don't know that he has HIV either.

02:12:02.000 I don't know that that's accurate.

02:12:03.000 That could be slanderous.

02:12:04.000 That could be slanderous.

02:12:05.000 That's iffy territory.

02:12:08.000 That's Kanye West, and he was missing a leg in that picture.

02:12:11.000 Yeah, I know.

02:12:12.000 Probably he left it in Kim's ass.

02:12:14.000 I was going to say, Kim got hungry, and Kanye was all she had around.

02:12:19.000 She didn't have her emergency food supply kit.

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02:12:23.000 Whoa!

02:12:24.000 What was that, Jared?

02:12:25.000 Was that a hipster or hobo?

02:12:26.000 Why did we qualify it?

02:12:27.000 Hobo?

02:12:27.000 Well, I mean...

02:12:28.000 Hobo.

02:12:29.000 I'm going to go with hipster.

02:12:30.000 It's Kanye.

02:12:31.000 I think, well let's just give that one to Nick so it's a tie.

02:12:33.000 We're at 3-3.

02:12:34.000 3-3.

02:12:35.000 Yeah, so we need a game breaker.

02:12:37.000 Do you listen to Kanye at all?

02:12:38.000 I wouldn't listen to Kanye if he's in my kitchen right now, unless he's making me a sandwich.

02:12:43.000 Well, he's probably pretty adept at that, considering he's married to a Kardashian.

02:12:46.000 He's a big girl, in my opinion.

02:12:49.000 I actually think he's a great MC, but he is functionally retarded.

02:12:54.000 A great MC, you said?

02:12:56.000 Yeah, he's fantastic.

02:12:57.000 He really is good.

02:12:58.000 MC? I know, not the MC term like comedian, master of ceremonies, you know, MC Midler, but MC is the term they use for hip-hop artists.

02:13:08.000 Look at him.

02:13:09.000 He's so...

02:13:09.000 Look, Nick.

02:13:10.000 It's not an abbreviation for something?

02:13:12.000 I don't know.

02:13:13.000 It's MC or E-M-C-E-E with the hip-hop.

02:13:16.000 What's he?

02:13:17.000 Spin Records?

02:13:17.000 I don't understand.

02:13:18.000 That's what they do.

02:13:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:13:19.000 If you spin records...

02:13:20.000 They call that an MC? Yeah.

02:13:22.000 That's what they call him.

02:13:22.000 He's a jerk-off in either way.

02:13:24.000 Okay.

02:13:25.000 All right.

02:13:25.000 Let's tie-break this hipster or hobo.

02:13:29.000 This one, alright.

02:13:30.000 Well, I think that one is pretty obvious, but...

02:13:32.000 Well, if he's urinating, he's a hobo.

02:13:35.000 You look like we're looking down at him.

02:13:37.000 Yep.

02:13:38.000 That's a hipster.

02:13:40.000 Nick says hipster.

02:13:41.000 I'm going to steal Nick's insight.

02:13:44.000 I think, because I've been tricked before, if he is urinating, which is possible, I say hobo.

02:13:51.000 So Nick says hipster, I say hobo.

02:13:52.000 Let's figure this one out.

02:13:58.000 That one is a hipster, you see.

02:14:00.000 He cut himself when they canceled Glee.

02:14:05.000 How crude.

02:14:07.000 This seems needlessly dark, not gay Jared.

02:14:10.000 It is dark.

02:14:11.000 It is dark.

02:14:11.000 I got that right.

02:14:13.000 What was that?

02:14:14.000 I got that one right.

02:14:15.000 You did get that?

02:14:15.000 Oh, damn.

02:14:16.000 Nick is a head.

02:14:17.000 Nick is a weak.

02:14:18.000 That kid had some nice legs.

02:14:19.000 They weren't as nice as this guy's legs.

02:14:22.000 Oh no, come on, that guy's not doing the P90X. One more, one more, because I need to get my points back.

02:14:28.000 Oh, well, okay.

02:14:29.000 I'm going to say that's a hobo, but I'll let Nick go.

02:14:33.000 I was looking at the breasts, I was going to hip-sip it, but then I saw the six inches of toe jam under the nails.

02:14:33.000 What do you think?

02:14:40.000 Did you see her hands?

02:14:41.000 She had the hands of the skipper from Gilligan's Island.

02:14:44.000 Yes, yes.

02:14:45.000 That's a hobo.

02:14:47.000 That's a dirty woman.

02:14:48.000 I can smell her.

02:14:49.000 She's like a block of shot.

02:14:50.000 I think we both agree that's a hobo on that game.

02:14:54.000 Just her hands alone.

02:14:57.000 Courtney Love.

02:14:58.000 That one is a trick joke, you see.

02:15:00.000 He's neither of them, just a tranny.

02:15:05.000 He's she.

02:15:07.000 Paul Simon really seems like he'll do anything for the money now.

02:15:10.000 He will.

02:15:11.000 It's like the black-eyed peas.

02:15:12.000 They show up for bar mitzvahs.

02:15:13.000 Was that Larry Bird, that last one?

02:15:15.000 Yeah, it could have been Larry Bird.

02:15:17.000 You're a good sport.

02:15:18.000 You're the champion, Nick.

02:15:19.000 You came up to defend your title.

02:15:21.000 Connectpal.com slash Nick.

02:15:22.000 Where else should people find you?

02:15:25.000 NickDip.com for all my tour dates.

02:15:28.000 And, you know, at Nick DiPaolo on Twitter.

02:15:32.000 Instagram, I just started doing that.

02:15:33.000 Another useless thing.

02:15:35.000 He's got a bunch of pictures of him in yoga pants.

02:15:38.000 We must go.

02:15:38.000 Funniest man alive, Nick DiPaolo.

02:15:40.000 Stay tuned.

02:15:41.000 Or you're anti-Italian?

02:15:43.000 I think.

02:15:44.000 Probably.

02:15:45.000 I don't know.

02:15:46.000 I'm Dean Cain, vice presidential candidate on the Hopper-Cain ticket.

02:15:57.000 And lately, we've been the subject of some very dishonest campaign attack ads.

02:16:03.000 These ads are slanderous, baseless, and entirely expected from the Big Squirrel establishment.

02:16:10.000 It doesn't take much to prove that these attack ads don't stand up to scrutiny.

02:16:14.000 For example, here I was accused of assaulting a black man, but if you look closely, that is actually Denzel Washington from the film Out of Time.

02:16:25.000 In this ad, I was accused of being a domestic abuser, but as you can see, this too was a scripted motion picture.

02:16:33.000 Big Squirrel is scared, America.

02:16:36.000 It is time to overthrow politics as usual.

02:16:39.000 Join me this year and feel the hopper.

02:16:44.000 I'm Dean Cain, and I approve this message. I'm Dean Cain,

02:16:57.000 and I approve and I approve this message.

02:17:17.000 I'm Dean Cain, and I approve this message.

02:17:31.000 Nick DiPaolo.

02:17:33.000 Great show.

02:17:33.000 A little dark.

02:17:34.000 This is a dark show.

02:17:35.000 A little dark show, but we appreciate you sticking along with it.

02:17:38.000 The reason we had to go dark was because...

02:17:41.000 I don't know why.

02:17:43.000 Nick DiPaolo, Andrew Slavin, Gavin McInnes.

02:17:46.000 Thank you so much, Kurt Schilling, for stopping by on late notice.

02:17:48.000 Next week...

02:17:50.000 Do we know who we have next week?

02:17:51.000 Oh, Coline Noir.

02:17:51.000 Coline Noir.

02:17:52.000 Of NRA. And I think we have Ben Shapiro.

02:17:57.000 Oh, yeah.

02:17:57.000 You know what?

02:17:58.000 And we do have maybe a surprise guest.

02:17:59.000 Of course, live stream is going to be available for election night in the next debate.

02:18:04.000 That's next Wednesday.

02:18:05.000 Yep.

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02:18:11.000 Really good stuff.

02:18:11.000 Legitimately.

02:18:12.000 It actually is.

02:18:13.000 My wife and I ate the oatmeal the other night because we didn't have food.

02:18:17.000 I can believe that.

02:18:18.000 And it's better than the Quaker oats.

02:18:19.000 Oatmeal.

02:18:20.000 Which if you think about, oatmeal lasts forever anyways.

02:18:22.000 So you're just taking oatmeal and you're vacuum sealing it.

02:18:25.000 Mm-hmm.

02:18:25.000 And you're just keeping it there.

02:18:27.000 It's just something you have in case of an emergency.

02:18:28.000 My brother had the LA earthquakes.

02:18:30.000 I remember one time.

02:18:31.000 He's friends with Judge Reinhold, one of all people.

02:18:34.000 Yeah.

02:18:35.000 My weenie whistle.

02:18:37.000 And he coached my brother on what to have kind of in your kit.

02:18:41.000 Yeah.

02:18:41.000 You know, flashlight, I don't know, multi-tool, water, some dried food.

02:18:47.000 Everyone should have a good house kit and everyone should have a good bug out bag.

02:18:51.000 In my opinion.

02:18:52.000 When the crap hits the fan.

02:18:53.000 That's always what they say on the Preppers show.

02:18:56.000 So, we had so much more we wanted to get to.

02:18:58.000 The video of the people getting run over by the cars at the KKK Lumbus Day protest.

02:19:03.000 You can still roll that.

02:19:04.000 That's just hilarious.

02:19:05.000 We don't have time to roll it.

02:19:06.000 This show's already been dark enough.

02:19:08.000 What's the takeaway?

02:19:08.000 I got someone saying, well, I think you're trying to say that Hillary's going to win, so it won't be that bad.

02:19:13.000 No, that's actually not what I'm saying.

02:19:15.000 What I'm trying to tell people out there, and I see, you know, the biggest concern from the Clintons right now, We're good to go.

02:19:42.000 And I don't think that really helps anybody.

02:19:44.000 That's the point of this, to at least illuminate maybe some blind spots that you might have to draw some attention to it.

02:19:49.000 And something that I would like to see...

02:19:52.000 This is just personal.

02:19:54.000 The breed of conservative, libertarian, anti-authoritarian I would love to see are just people who are perseverance personified.

02:20:04.000 I was inspired, actually, Michael Bisping, not even my favorite fighter.

02:20:06.000 I actually would have liked to see Dan Henderson win.

02:20:08.000 He barely retained his UFC title here this last weekend.

02:20:11.000 I was reading an article Sorry for not having the source.

02:20:15.000 I don't remember where.

02:20:16.000 I want to say MMAfighting.com at Yahoo.

02:20:18.000 The writer, please call me on it and I'll give you a link once I remember who it was who wrote this.

02:20:23.000 But Michael Bisping is a fighter who's not the most talented.

02:20:26.000 He's not the biggest.

02:20:27.000 He's not the strongest.

02:20:28.000 He doesn't have a professional athletic record as a lot of other people did.

02:20:31.000 But he's the longest running in the organization.

02:20:33.000 I think he has more fights now than anyone, more overall victories than anyone.

02:20:36.000 It was 10 years Before he actually got his title shot.

02:20:40.000 And he got it and he shocked the world.

02:20:42.000 And then he defended it.

02:20:43.000 And he probably won't defend it for very long.

02:20:46.000 Because he's a little bit older.

02:20:48.000 He's got all kinds of scar tissue.

02:20:49.000 He's got one eye that's googly.

02:20:51.000 I repeat, googly now.

02:20:53.000 And just looks a little weird.

02:20:55.000 A little worse for the wear.

02:20:56.000 But he finally got that title.

02:20:58.000 And what did it come down to with a guy like that?

02:20:59.000 With Michael Bisping.

02:21:00.000 Whether you like him or not.

02:21:01.000 He's a personality.

02:21:02.000 At a certain point...

02:21:04.000 He looked around, and all the guys he fought, and all the guys who even beat him years ago, weren't there anymore.

02:21:11.000 He was just still the guy there.

02:21:13.000 And the people who might have jumped ahead of him for a title shot, weren't there.

02:21:17.000 Because then they lost their next fight, or they had contract issues.

02:21:20.000 And all of a sudden, a call came as a late replacement.

02:21:24.000 They needed someone, and he was there.

02:21:26.000 He was still there.

02:21:28.000 And there's so much to be said for that in life.

02:21:30.000 And what I don't want to see you do is be that person who gets all fired up and Trump's going to win in a landslide.

02:21:36.000 And so you get complacent.

02:21:37.000 And if he doesn't, or if you're, maybe it's not Trump this time, maybe it's the next election.

02:21:40.000 Maybe it's something else that's important to you.

02:21:42.000 And you burn out.

02:21:44.000 And you say, well, this isn't going to work.

02:21:46.000 You go full Eeyore and you lose hope.

02:21:48.000 I don't want to see that.

02:21:50.000 If we create, just with 10% of our audience, of the millions of people who read and listen and download overall, just 10% of you become those people who just stick in the fight, even if you're not the best, even if you have an IQ that is approximately room temperature.

02:22:09.000 But you are in the pocket every day.

02:22:11.000 You will find in your life, in nearly any endeavor, at a certain point in time, maybe 5 years, maybe 10 years, maybe 15 years, you'll look around and the people who are better than you, the people who are there, aren't there anymore.

02:22:25.000 And it's just you.

02:22:27.000 And maybe a new crop of people, but they haven't been doing it as long as you.

02:22:29.000 They don't have the experience you do.

02:22:31.000 They don't have the know-how you do.

02:22:33.000 There is so much to be said for simply staying there, continuing to do it.

02:22:38.000 I've talked about consistency before, about getting up and proactively doing something every day.

02:22:42.000 Right now, that's not even what I'm talking about.

02:22:43.000 What I'm talking about is just showing up.

02:22:46.000 Is just doing something.

02:22:48.000 Just staying there.

02:22:49.000 Even if you're not great.

02:22:50.000 Even if you're not necessarily super inspired.

02:22:51.000 Even if you're not that talented.

02:22:53.000 There is so much to be said for that.

02:22:55.000 And what I don't want to see, and I see a lot of it, is people getting...

02:22:57.000 It's something that's unsustainable.

02:22:59.000 Kind of like the person, you've seen this before, where...

02:23:02.000 They're very overweight, and they get in fantastic shape, but they're just militant about the diet, and then they're militant about going to the gym, and there's no balance to their life, and then all of a sudden, it cascades.

02:23:14.000 They miss a week, or something happens in the family, or they can't get, and then what do you know?

02:23:17.000 You see them a year from then, and they're just not even close.

02:23:20.000 And you go, what happened?

02:23:21.000 And they just lost it.

02:23:22.000 They just, you know, this kind of happened, and it cascaded, and I gave up.

02:23:26.000 And that's most people.

02:23:27.000 That's that 80-20 rule.

02:23:28.000 80% of people at some point just say, nah, I can't do it anymore.

02:23:33.000 Give you an example.

02:23:35.000 Just so you know this in your life, you've experienced this, many of you have experienced this and you don't even know it.

02:23:38.000 Think of a day where you were just really tired, exhausted.

02:23:42.000 Let's say 4 o'clock, 5 o'clock rolled around.

02:23:44.000 Everyone has had this.

02:23:44.000 Think of when it happened to you and you thought, alright, I can't do this.

02:23:47.000 I'm just going to throw in the towel.

02:23:48.000 I'm going to stop.

02:23:49.000 And something happened.

02:23:50.000 Maybe it was a phone call at work.

02:23:52.000 Maybe something happened with your children.

02:23:53.000 But the best thing happened at the end of the day because you stayed a little late or because you made that drive or because you made that phone call even when you were exhausted.

02:24:02.000 Take that, take that little micro example, and apply it to life over the course of years.

02:24:08.000 At some point, everyone faces that spot, and that's what's going to happen before or after this election, where people go, you know what, my heart's not anymore, I'm out.

02:24:17.000 And at least 80% of the people who are out there right now are going to do that.

02:24:21.000 I want to see you be a part of that 20%.

02:24:24.000 When other people stop, I want you to look around and say, hey, I'm still here.

02:24:30.000 And get to it.

02:24:30.000 And keep doing it.

02:24:31.000 Because we'll be here.

02:24:32.000 Win, lose, or draw.

Louder with Crowder - October 14, 2016

#95 THE EPIC TRUMP DEBATE! Gavin McInnes and Andrew Klavan | Louder With Crowder

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