On this week's episode of Talk Radio's Strangest animal, host Stephen Crowder is joined by special guest Ben Shapiro to talk about the CNN primary debates, the upcoming mid-term elections, and much, much more!
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00:02:40.000Ben Shapiro will be coming on here on Segment 3 to talk about the debates last night, where he lines up what he thought, I guess the results will be the shake-up from that.
00:02:51.000To get away from all the debate talk a little bit, that's all we're going to be hearing about in the next 48 hours, so he will talk about...
00:03:42.000I think some ones you can predict and some that you may not be able to predict.
00:03:45.000You know what you don't realize is you tell people to send me these pictures, and they don't just disappear after the week and just start with the new ones.
00:05:37.000Megyn Kelly, who people hated because she wasn't pro-Trump, but now she's the darling of the Trump supporters because she went after Donna Brazile, We're good to go.
00:06:34.000You know, as a Christian woman, I understand persecution, but I will not sit here and be persecuted because your information is totally false.
00:07:21.000Nobody doubts that the WikiLeaks are authentic.
00:07:25.000You have people like Marco Rubio who've said, listen, Republicans stop making an issue because they could have been hacked by a foreign government.
00:07:56.000You just look at the revolving door of DNC, either surrogates or strategists or Chair, men, women, people, Zs, we don't want to misgender them, constantly going in and out of NBC and Donna, Brazil.
00:09:10.000Well, I was upset because, unfortunately, dozens of toddlers injure themselves, even kill people with guns, because, unfortunately, not everyone who has loaded guns in their homes...
00:10:00.000So, they want you to think that some little four-year-old in the propeller cap is walking around with an AK. You know, Hillary Clinton, because they missed the thumbprint in the gun safe.
00:10:11.000And she lost a lot of ground there, I think.
00:10:13.000I think Trump was smart to go after the Second Amendment issue.
00:10:15.000I think a lot of people, that's where Democrats will break ranks.
00:11:26.000Like we said, hombres, bad hombres, they turned that into a meme.
00:11:29.000And when he said he may or may not accept the outcome of the election, as a matter of fact, that is worse than anything actually directly relating to what he said in the debate.
00:11:39.000That is worse than even if he'd have had a terrible performance in the debate because that's the fallout.
00:11:44.000And it doesn't bode well with people who aren't already voting for him.
00:11:48.000I will say this about Donald Trump last night.
00:11:50.000My wife, who is not a fan at all, said this is the first time hearing him where I do feel like I'll vote for him.
00:11:56.000And a big thing with that was because of the abortion issue.
00:11:59.000Hillary Clinton was up there willfully saying, gleefully saying, I will support pretty much abortion up until the time of birth.
00:12:06.000And Donald Trump did promise, he said, I will appoint Supreme Court justices who will be pro-life, who will at least toss this back to the states.
00:12:16.000And my wife said, okay, that's a strong enough contrast there.
00:12:20.000There isn't a strong enough contrast fiscally on a lot of issues, but for a lot of Christians out there, you have to understand, Donald Trump hasn't been above that 42% ceiling, 43 on a good day with Republicans.
00:12:30.000So he needs that Christian conservative vote, and I think he may be...
00:12:35.000Made some inroads there last night, but I don't think he made some inroads with the newer voters that he needs.
00:12:41.000And people are going to get mad that I'm even saying that.
00:12:43.000There are fewer and fewer undecided people going into election, and Donald Trump needs to appeal to them somewhat if he's going to win.
00:16:53.000Regarding this election, people talk about demographics and you hear like the Ann Coulters go out there and say, you know, oh, we'll just just write off this.
00:16:59.000You know, we're never going to win Latinos.
00:17:00.000It's just an entire voting base for Democrats.
00:17:02.000We're never going to win over that vote.
00:17:04.000We're never going to win over the black vote.
00:17:06.000You know, so just let's stop trying to pander and just do the middle aged white male thing.
00:17:11.000Here's something that I think a lot of people miss, and I have the numbers here.
00:17:15.000Republicans and Donald Trump, they don't need to win the Latino vote.
00:17:18.000They don't need to win, for example, the black vote.
00:17:20.000They don't even need to win the millennial vote.
00:17:21.000They just need to mitigate their losses to like a two-to-one margin.
00:18:18.000You just need to get it to, let's say, 35%.
00:18:20.000If you just mitigated the losses, if Donald Trump just mitigated the losses with millennials, or Republicans, but specifically Donald Trump, he's doing worse than any Republican with all these demos, 16% of anyone under 34 right now is supporting Trump versus Hillary.
00:18:35.000If you could just get that number with millennials to 35%, anyone under 34, guess what?
00:18:43.000Republicans never lose an election again.
00:19:28.000Again, can we do as well as 30% of people under the age of 35?
00:19:33.000And what bothers me is people going out there pandering for ratings right now saying, well, you're never going to win these demos, so why try?
00:19:40.000You just need to not suck so badly that anyone under the age of buying a catheter, demographic, could see themselves pulling the lever for you.
00:20:03.000That's the biggest problem that Republicans are facing right now.
00:20:06.000And if you look at the number, how much more of them support someone like a Gary Johnson, it can be as high as 19% from Quinnipiac, or it's as high as 16% with the Economist YouGov poll.
00:20:16.000That's way higher than the national average, which is under 10%.
00:20:19.000So that shows you there are a lot more independents, a lot more young people who are still willing to vote Libertarian, who probably, if you gave them just enough reason, could become a Republican.
00:20:29.000By the way, it's not much better even if you go under the age of 44.
00:20:32.000It's still under 30%, depending on which stats you use.
00:20:35.000So this is something I don't want you to be led by the nose with people who are lying, saying you're never going to win this demographic, you're never going to win the black vote.
00:26:23.000Because most people, you know, they're not following you for that side of you.
00:26:27.000Yeah, I mean, so the novel is about the collapse of the United States, just like every other novel these days.
00:26:33.000But yeah, it's about what the U.S. would look like if we fell apart.
00:26:38.000It's sort of two steps removed from reality, sort of taking the situation on the border, ratcheting it up a step.
00:26:43.000What if drug cartels were making actual incursions across the border on a regular basis and the Texas governor decided to do something about it?
00:26:49.000What if a race riot in a major city didn't just rage out of control, but the presidents of the United States decided to essentially reach a political settlement with the race rioters to have them run the government?
00:26:59.000What would happen if there was a major terrorist attack simultaneously?
00:27:03.000And then the hero, of course, is trying to stop all of this from going down.
00:27:06.000The sort of purpose of writing this is fiction.
00:27:08.000It was to reach out to some people who wouldn't read it as nonfiction, namely people who don't read nonfiction generally, but also to people on the left and in the center who want to read a good, fun story, or at least an exciting story.
00:27:22.000Kind of like we were talking about, that only 16% of people under the age of 35 who will vote Republican.
00:27:28.000So it seems like there's a wide spectrum there of people who could maybe be reached a little bit.
00:27:34.000More people learned about capitalism from Ayn Rand than learned about capitalism from Milton Friedman.
00:27:38.000So if you put the right kind of ideas in an exciting package, then people are more likely to listen to them, which is why, you know, you are such a wonderful host, and those dancing skills, I mean, that's really what it tells you.
00:28:34.000I don't think it was enough because I think that he didn't move the ball forward.
00:28:37.000I mean, he is down anywhere from 7 to 11 points in most of these polls.
00:28:41.000That's a pretty large chunk of ground you've got to make up.
00:28:44.000I think that he was throwing a lot of red meat to his base.
00:28:46.000I thought that it was his best debate.
00:28:48.000You have to hold Trump, you have to decide when you grade these people, you sort of have to decide which standard are you using for grading Trump.
00:30:13.000And, and I think that that's, that's right.
00:30:15.000He, Even on his attacks, about 33,000 deleted emails, it would behoove him for, you know, a minute and a half to just lay out what happened here.
00:30:22.000She set up a private server several days in advance for becoming Secretary of State.
00:30:26.000She was doing that specifically in order to shield information from being discoverable in FOIA requests.
00:30:31.000And then when she was subpoenaed, she deleted all of these emails and then claimed that she hadn't, that she turned over everything relevant and that it was all yoga emails, right?
00:30:38.000Just explain it in two sentences and So that people know what you're talking about.
00:30:41.000Because otherwise he just says things like, 33,000 emails.
00:30:57.000It's frustrating for me as somebody who really takes part in a lot of debates.
00:31:01.000It's very frustrating to me to watch these debates and even stuff where I think he did okay know how much further he could have gone.
00:31:08.000So for example, on the abortion question.
00:31:10.000So Hillary Clinton gets hit with the partial birth abortion question.
00:31:13.000This is the best opportunity a Republican has had since Roe v.
00:31:16.000Wade in a major media setting to explain the evils of abortion.
00:31:21.000It is, because partial birth abortion is so egregious and it's so disgusting and it's so terrible, and no Democrat has ever been asked about partial birth abortion in a major debate like this.
00:31:29.000And Hillary's asked about it, and Hillary gives her normal woman's right to choose answer, and Trump says, you ripped the baby out of the womb.
00:31:35.000And then he just keeps repeating that phrase, ripped the baby out of the womb.
00:31:42.000And then when she comes back and says- Well, the baby became a toddler carrying around an AR-15, according to Hillary Clinton.
00:31:47.000And you or I, I mean, you don't have to be people who are professionals at this to say, okay, Hillary, you say that I'm misdescribing the procedures.
00:32:10.000You can educate almost a third of the country on what partial birth abortion is.
00:32:14.000I do think, though, my wife was talking about this.
00:32:17.000She's going, you know what, I might vote for him after that because she was so adamant about, basically, abortion up until the moment of birth.
00:32:51.000He's kind of throwing out arguments that are eaten up by people who have a predilection already toward liking him and are sort of on the fence about him.
00:33:01.000Listen, every time I watch Hillary Clinton talk, I have the thought, should I vote for Donald Trump because she's so horrible and evil?
00:33:08.000And I suppose that that promise that he made to appoint pro-life justices would matter more to me if I actually believed him and thought that he wasn't a pathological liar.
00:33:16.000But again, the question is, what is he doing now and what is his strategy designed to be?
00:33:22.000And for the past several weeks when he's talking about the rigged stuff, I mean, where he really blew himself up, obviously, was on that rigged election question because he just gave the media a week's worth of notice.
00:33:30.000I mean, he just gave them a week's worth of headlines to talk about how he's leading a violent revolution, which is nonsense.
00:33:35.000The only violence in politics is coming from the left.
00:33:37.000Sorry, I'm not paying attention to you.
00:33:40.000You two might be screwing with our feed.
00:33:41.000Do we have it back up now, KJ? I should be back up now.
00:34:22.000And the reason I don't think that's widespread is because you're seeing...
00:34:25.000Similar results coming out of anywhere from 10 to 12 polling companies and these people are in competition with each other.
00:34:30.000I mean, the whole goal is to be the most accurate when Election Day comes because then you get all the credit and people continue to hire you for your polls.
00:34:37.000So, you know, I don't think that there's a giant conspiracy to oversample Democrats.
00:34:41.000I think that, if anything, people are going to be kind of surprised on Election Day because I think that Donald Trump is actually going to show under where he's showing in the polls because Mitt Romney did, right?
00:34:49.000Mitt Romney showed a couple of points under where he was showing in the polls at the very end because his ground game wasn't as good as Obama's.
00:34:55.000The gap between Hillary Clinton's ground game and Donald Trump's ground game is much wider than the gap between Obama's ground game and Romney's was in 2012.
00:36:58.000And the reason I say he'll lose Arizona is because if you look at the polling right now for Sheriff Joe, Sheriff Joe is down like 15 in the early ballot returns.
00:37:05.000And that's a pretty good indicator that the enthusiasm for sort of the Trumpian agenda is not as high as you would think it would be in a border state like Arizona.
00:37:14.000Yeah, I think you might be right with that.
00:37:18.000A Trump victory is much more likely than the media is giving it credit for, and it's probably much less likely than his hardcore supporters think.
00:37:25.000Yeah, I think that that's true, but I think that it's closer to the media's assessment than it is to the Bill Mitchells of the world, who say it's 193% certain, and he's used his statistical methods to prove that 193% is not an exaggeration.
00:37:39.000It's an actual percentage chance that Donald Trump will win.
00:37:43.000I think the people who think that it's fairly certain Trump are going to win are way off.
00:37:47.000I think that, you know, look, I tend to trust the betting markets because the people who put their money on this stuff tend to be pretty smart about it.
00:37:53.000And the betting markets right now have Trump at like a 15% chance of winning.
00:37:57.000He would need a pretty major political miracle in the latter days of this campaign to even make this thing competitive, I think.
00:38:02.000Yeah, I think, well, I mean, he needs to win.
00:38:04.000And by the way, this is not me being smug about any of this stuff.
00:39:06.000This is the final 2016 presidential debate recap on CNN.
00:39:22.000Yes, tonight's debate, I think, was very illuminating.
00:39:29.000The main takeaways are that Donald Trump will not accept the legitimacy of this election, which seems to be a major threat to our current democracy.
00:39:39.000We're having our fact-checkers look this over.
00:39:42.000Anderson, did he say Big Lee or Big League?
00:42:00.000For her to sit there and calling her Kelly and Megyn Kelly basically saying, so you knew about all the questions in advance and people use violence and voter fraud.
00:42:09.000And she's sitting there going, this is just like when the Romans were throwing Christians in front of the lions.
00:42:22.000One of the reasons it won't be a major story also...
00:42:25.000Voter fraud is not to put too much in the lap of Trump, but when you say everything is rigged to the extent where you're basically not even categorizing it as in a narrow election, voter fraud is a serious problem that we should be concerned about.
00:42:37.000When you say things like, I don't believe the polls, I could be down 10, I could lose by 30 million votes, or more realistically, I could lose by 7 or 8 million votes, and I'm still going to claim voter fraud.
00:42:47.000People look at it and go, okay, well, I guess voter fraud is BS. How widespread do you think voter fraud actually is?
00:42:52.000I mean, I think that there are probably tens of thousands of false votes that are cast in any given presidential election.
00:43:27.000He should be saying, if there is voter fraud, and we're in a close race in a swing state, then why would I accept the legitimacy of that pending an investigation?
00:43:35.000He could have said that, but that's not what he said.
00:43:38.000And so he gave fodder to the other side.
00:43:40.000And then him basically being just a Breitbart comment troll, you know, where he goes out there and he says things like, you know, I'm going to – I'll respect the results of the election if I win.
00:44:08.000And I'm a contrarian bastard, so I have to, you know, people think I'm mean to Gavin when he's on, then people are like, why are you so mean to Ben and not agreeing with him?
00:44:36.000It's just a fish-hooking extravaganza.
00:44:38.000So when we're talking about WikiLeaks, do you line up with the Rubio situation where you're like, Republicans should stop talking about it because this could be foreign governments?
00:44:46.000Do you think WikiLeaks have been a good thing, have been illuminating, showing the collusion with media?
00:44:53.000So, you know, two things can be true at once.
00:44:56.000WikiLeaks are bad, and WikiLeaks are informative.
00:44:59.000I mean, whenever Democrats, this is where Andrew Klavan has this rule about media, which is anytime there's a scandal bad for Democrats, the first question all the leftists ask is, how was that information obtained?
00:45:08.000It's not the contents of the information.
00:45:10.000When it's an Access Hollywood tape on a bus from a thousand years ago, then it turns into what's the content of the tape?
00:45:27.000So I don't line up with Rubio on the idea that you have to go silent about it.
00:45:31.000I do think that it is worthwhile saying that WikiLeaks is bad and the Russian government is backing it.
00:45:35.000You know, I think that both things can be true at once.
00:45:37.000I think that Trump should say, look, I condemn WikiLeaks hacking American sources.
00:45:42.000That said, WikiLeaks did expose some information about you guys that's pretty egregious.
00:45:47.000And for a lady who talks a lot about cybersecurity, you obviously don't care enough to shield your own information by sticking it on private servers.
00:45:52.000You don't get to claim that you're some lily of the field when it comes to protecting America's national security when you're taking literally classified information and sticking it on a server in your bathroom.
00:46:01.000Because you're trying to hide information from the American people.
00:46:04.000And that's the way he should have approached it.
00:46:50.000Yeah, I mean, there have been private intelligence agencies, public intelligence agencies.
00:46:55.000Everybody says the Russians are behind WikiLeaks.
00:46:57.000I trust them more than Donald Trump's theory that a 400-pounder lying on a bed somewhere in Montana is hacking all of this stuff and then turning it over to WikiLeaks.
00:47:04.000Donald Trump's expertise when it comes to the cyber, I trust a little bit less than the DNI. I will say this.
00:47:10.000We have never had two more out-of-touch technologically candidates.
00:47:13.000I mean, Hillary Clinton has no idea how to work the email and Donald Trump with the cyber.
00:47:17.000You're sitting there like, this is literally like my grandmother who set up a home office for forwarding.
00:47:22.000Yeah, I feel like Donald Trump is the kind of guy, or Hillary Clinton, they'd like forward you that picture of a prairie dog's testicles that was at E-bombs World in 1998.
00:47:36.000Where's the best place for people to find you here?
00:47:38.000Go to Amazon.com to pick up the new book, True Allegiance.
00:47:40.000And if you want to follow me on Twitter, it's at Ben Shapiro.
00:47:43.000And if you want to watch a daily podcast, a daily podcast, then you go to The Ben Shapiro Show on SoundCloud or iTunes at Daily Wire, which is the website.
00:47:52.000And you'll be joining us election night for a segment, right?
00:50:52.000No, if you're out and see me, actually, that's probably coal.
00:50:59.000You mean to tell me I'm not flying because of an endangered species of seagull and I'm charging my Tesla in a power outlet that's fueled by coal?
00:53:12.000Now, a lot of millennials watching are going, what's that?
00:53:14.000This is a film made with Sally Field, I want to say in the early 90s, about a woman who married a Muslim.
00:53:19.000They go to Iran, and obviously he keeps the daughter, beats the hell out of some women.
00:53:23.000She finds out with his Islamic family, kind of how, this happens a lot, by the way.
00:53:28.000People make their pilgrimage, either they're going to Mecca, secular Westerners, they marry these Muslims, they don't know what they've signed up for, and they can't get their kids back.
00:53:45.000But back then, because it hadn't been politicized, the Islamic mistreatment of women, the Islamic basically complete disregarding of women's rights, it was just seen as a human rights issue.
00:53:56.000It wasn't seen as a xenophobia or political issue.
00:53:58.000People weren't afraid to speak out against it, including liberals, because it was just like, don't wear fur.
00:54:05.000You shouldn't beat women, and this is a real problem in the Middle East, and this is a problem with Islam, and at that point it wasn't the cause du jour.
00:54:12.000So even leftists back then felt okay doing it.
00:55:32.000It's the exact opposite of the Black Lives Matter thing right now.
00:55:36.000If this were happening today, Dirty Harry would, instead of shooting the rapist in the street, he would be wearing a body camera, taking him in for questioning, and bringing in his lawyer with a lot of violence.
00:55:48.000So it's not just the insensitivities, but the concept of Dirty Harry would not work today, which I think you're seeing that a little bit with Trump.
00:57:15.000He just talked about how he liked Reagan.
00:57:18.000But it wasn't even considered a sexist, it wasn't considered a social issue that kids have drunk sex in college.
00:57:23.000Nobody would have even considered the idea that two people who were both drunk, who had consensual, intimate relations, would be considered rape.
00:57:32.000Now, when you watch this film, you can find at least four or five instances that would be a Salon article.
00:58:13.000This could have taken up spots five through one.
00:58:18.000Now, this one is not as much the theme, like Not Without My Daughter or Dirty Harry, because there isn't a whole bunch of social commentary in the same way.
00:58:25.000It is just Mel Brooks at his best, and everything about this film is offensive.
01:00:19.000If you look at the film, I mean, for those who don't know, Robin Williams plays a woman, becomes a woman, in order to become a nanny and spend time with his children.
01:00:27.000It was pretty progressive for its time, if you look at it.
01:00:31.000In San Francisco, his brother was gay.
01:00:33.000It certainly at that time was normalizing gay relationships in a way that you didn't see in a lot of films.
01:01:24.000Kind of like Animal House or Not Without My Daughter, the starting off point was that of assumed abnormality with a man acting like a woman.
01:01:33.000And that was okay and it wasn't considered hate speech.
01:06:00.000This is anecdotal, but I want to talk about this because I think that anecdotally, too, it reflects a different reality between online and the real world.
01:06:14.000We said, wow, there are so many Trump-Pence signs out here.
01:06:17.000By the way, my family, they also live in one of the most conservative counties in the United States, in Texas.
01:06:24.000As far as a big city, so a big city, the most conservative county with, I think, over whatever it is, over half a million people in the country, no Trump signs.
01:07:15.000You haven't seen that a lot on either side, certainly less on both sides, but I've certainly seen less on the Trump side than I did with Romney and McCain, less with Hillary Clinton.
01:07:24.000We actually see more Bernie signs still than Hillary, I would say, where we are.
01:07:34.000So they want someone else to do it with their tax dollars.
01:07:37.000So we noticed that we actually started counting.
01:07:39.000So we said, okay, let's actually count a national sign And here's something I need to tell you, too, the methodology here.
01:07:46.000If there was a national sign, like a Trump-Pence, but there were five local signs, we didn't count it.
01:07:50.000We counted the number of houses while we were driving.
01:07:52.000We said, okay, if there's a national sign on the yard, we count that to every other house after it?
01:07:59.000With any local signs without a national sign.
01:08:01.000So if we saw Trump-Pence, and then we saw local sign, local sign, local sign with no national, then another Trump-Pence, that would be, you know, a 3 to 1 ratio.
01:08:09.000So we started doing this, whether it was Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, the national to local.
01:08:13.000And we would say, okay, boom, there's a Hillary Clinton sign.
01:08:16.000And on average, we probably did, gosh, anywhere from 70 to 150 did this.
01:08:22.000We counted about a 5 or 6 to 1 ratio of local signs to national signs in an election year.
01:14:11.000When I started, man, there was these websites trying to tear me down as if I was some manufactured black guy who was Made up a name and the NRA saw me on the corner of the street selling drugs and said, hey, boy, come over here and say these words on this paper.
01:14:25.000I was trying to hide the fact that it was the stage name.
01:15:10.000Okay, so, Colline, we have a bunch to talk about with this election, obviously, as a Second Amendment guy.
01:15:14.000You just recently, and we've written about this a lot at ladderwithcreditor.com, and I saw a clip I thought it was important for people to know.
01:15:20.000You were talking about Hillary Clinton's comments on the Australia gun buyback program and why that's important to know.
01:15:28.000Tell people who may not know about it, because that's most people.
01:15:33.000She loves playing in the word in semantic vagary, so to speak.
01:15:38.000When you hear buyback, you think, okay, yeah, good thing.
01:15:40.000You have guns you want to get rid of, you want to get guns off of the street, the evil guns that keep walking around shooting people, and then you sell them back, and you get money for it, and we get the guns off the street.
01:15:50.000The thing about it is there's a huge distinction between a mandatory buyback and a voluntary buyback.
01:16:44.000That's a huge difference between setting up in a little local elementary school It's somewhere in some neighborhood and saying, if you have guns you want to get rid of, no questions asked, and we'll give you money for it.
01:17:22.000But you made a good point that Hillary Clinton was talking about the states and then did a quick pivot to Australia.
01:17:29.000And you were talking about the fact that she used this delineation means she understands that it's mandatory, but she's hiding it from people.
01:17:36.000Yeah, absolutely, because she's saying, she ended her comment by saying, yes, we should definitely look to Australia as a model of how to do this on a national level.
01:17:43.000Well, you just talked about An example of it on a local level.
01:17:48.000Why do you need Australia to use as a model for doing it on a national level, but for the distinction, which is that Australia's version was mandatory?
01:17:57.000You would just say, why don't we look to whatever, Hartford, Connecticut, on a national level, but instead you're saying, well, why don't we look to Australia?
01:18:17.000Yeah, which would actually still mean I have a lot more.
01:18:19.000You still have more, that's why I didn't say black.
01:18:21.000See, and you just, he's so quick to throw the racist card.
01:18:24.000But you have this out there, so a lot of black people obviously aren't conservative.
01:18:27.000It's like Trump is getting maybe 9% if he's lucky with black people.
01:18:31.000But you obviously are very educated and you talk a lot about the Second Amendment issue.
01:18:35.000Do you think that, and you're the only person I know really doing that actively, do you feel that the Second Amendment issue is an issue, if you were to take individually, maybe would be a more strong issue with the black community than maybe the Republican platform?
01:18:46.000Or do you think it's just kind of one they're apathetic about?
01:18:54.000The thing about it is it's how we go about it.
01:18:57.000Other cultures tend to feel more comfortable being more vocal about their ownership of firearms.
01:19:04.000And the reason why is because there's been this, I always say this before, The image of a black person owning a gun has been hijacked.
01:19:11.000Because what you get is you get a pushing of this kind of gangbanger, D-boy mentality or projection that you get from the music, from mainstream media, from movies, whatever the case may be.
01:19:22.000So that is largely the only representation you see of black men owning firearms.
01:19:26.000And so what that has done is that cultivated an environment where black people own firearms, but we just don't talk about it.
01:19:32.000It's the whole concept of, well, I'm the young black guy, so I know people are automatically going to assume I must be doing something illegal as a result, because all most people know about black people owning firearms is what they've seen through the mainstream media, so to speak.
01:19:46.000And so the image of black firearm ownership has been skewed way past it.
01:19:52.000I think when a lot of people picture just sort of, you know, mommy and daddy and homeowner, you know, fingerprint gun safe for home protection.
01:20:12.000That in and of itself had a big part to play in that as well.
01:20:15.000And so what you ended up finding is that most black people just won't talk about it.
01:20:20.000I did a show on my show Noir, I did an episode where I was speaking with this young guy who just recently graduated.
01:20:27.000He was about to graduate from high school and he lived in one of the hoods here in Dallas.
01:20:33.000We were walking around the neighborhood and I was with my camera crew.
01:20:36.000Some of them kind of looked like you two.
01:20:39.000Very out of place in South Dallas to say the least.
01:20:42.000And so we went to his grandmother's house.
01:20:45.000I was speaking with his grandmother and she was like, you probably don't want to walk down that street because you're going to get shot at because y'all look like the feds.
01:21:12.000She was just like, what are y'all doing with my nephew?
01:21:14.000And I was like, my grandson or whatever.
01:21:17.000And I was like, well, you know, we're talking to him about the idea of the Second Amendment, firearm ownership, because he was adamantly against it.
01:21:24.000But he was a very conscious young man, very smart, very into his culture and understanding black history and things of that nature.
01:21:30.000And when I was talking to him, I was kind of talking to him and basically saying, you know, like, I don't necessarily think having the anti-gun stance correlates with a lot of our history as a community.
01:21:41.000And so when I brought that up to her, she was like, oh, baby.
01:21:43.000She's like, we all own guns around here.
01:22:24.000So were you anti-gun or just sort of, again, neutral?
01:22:27.000I was scared of guns leaning more towards being anti.
01:22:32.000And largely due to the fact that I just didn't like the idea of somebody having the power to immediately kill me whenever they felt like they could.
01:22:39.000For me, it's very comforting because I work with not gay Jared, so it makes me sleep better knowing I've got that trump card.
01:24:26.000And I walk in the door, and I'm like, I don't want him to judge me.
01:24:29.000I don't, you know, so I just go through with it.
01:24:30.000And I get to the door, and then one of the door, the door that kind of sections off, you know, the actual storefront and then actual shooting range open.
01:24:39.000And then I can hear a pop, pop, pop, pop.
01:24:41.000And I was like, oh, what did I get myself into?
01:25:37.000No, no, I think everyone needs to shoot a gun at some point.
01:25:40.000We've talked about that, where if only, even if they don't have that moment like you did where they become fans or enthusiasts, where almost everybody does, but even if they don't, they at least have respect for the power associated with it and what is required to handle a firearm.
01:25:54.000And they'll never believe the films anymore.
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01:28:12.000Set it down somewhere in your basement, your den, and forget about it and just know that it's there if you need it.
01:29:43.000When you start to become even more analytical and really start looking and viewing the world that way, it just kind of forced me to start looking at everything from a more objective standpoint, not necessarily with my emotions and just kind of my feels all the time.
01:29:59.000I've learned to balance those two things.
01:30:03.000And then the firearm component really espoused my idea and concept of freedom.
01:30:08.000That's what really took that to a whole new level.
01:30:11.000Because I understood, especially when I started carrying a gun for the very first time, you don't realize how subconsciously you kind of...
01:30:20.000And some people are gonna hear this and think that it's paranoia or I'm walking around life terrified.
01:30:50.000Well, I think that's the same thing, even before carrying, you know, my dad and I, it sounds silly, but we've talked about, you know, combat sports, combat arena martial arts, not the BS, like the Kung Fu and the silly Olympic Taekwondo.
01:31:03.000Yeah, well, like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Judo, wrestling, boxing.
01:31:07.000And when you reach a certain level in proficiency and you've won a certain amount of competitions, actual full bore, you know, you go, okay, I realized what I didn't know before and there's a confidence that comes with it.
01:31:17.000And that's why I think you find probably the same thing with a lot of gun owners, but certainly with a lot of fighters or people who are accomplished.
01:31:24.000I mean, we're around professional fighters all the time.
01:31:26.000They are the first to de-escalate a situation generally and avoid conflict because they understand the responsibility that comes with it.
01:31:35.000I remember when I first started carrying, especially having a gun more consistently, like in my car, I told you all the time, I do not do road rage.
01:32:03.000I don't do it because I understand the implications, especially now that there's a firearm that could possibly be in play.
01:32:09.000I would never think to go to that firearm, but let's say, for instance, I've now put myself in a position with somebody who does have a firearm and does decide to take it there.
01:32:16.000Now I have to bring that firearm into play.
01:32:57.000And so they just got back in their car, and that's the fourth, you know, if you didn't know how accomplished you were in Europe, you didn't have confidence in your abilities, you'd just be swinging wildly, and you wouldn't be able to get it going.
01:33:17.000I'm running two computers, and I get confused by keyboards.
01:33:19.000Well, shut off one computer on the program, for crying out loud.
01:33:22.000Anyway, that was always one of my favorite stories, because it came with the guy you would think would be the most violent, and it was the least violent way to deal with the situation.
01:33:30.000An interesting dynamic you explained there, and I don't know if you picked up on it.
01:33:34.000When I talk to people about owning a firearm, especially women, a lot of women that I've talked to, when I talk to someone, I'm like, I don't want a gun, I don't want to have to shoot anyone.
01:33:44.000That thought of shooting someone terrifies me.
01:33:46.000I was like, would you shoot someone if they were trying to hurt your kid?
01:34:07.000Well, I think that's also why you have so many of these social justice warriors.
01:34:09.000You go out there, they're single, they're in college or post-college, they have no families, they have no wives, they're living on...
01:34:15.000And that's why it's easier for them to align with the gun control, the anti-guns and things, because they never had to think about Protecting somebody else.
01:34:23.000And not only that, that's a good point.
01:34:24.000They're also surrounded by people who share their opinion, right?
01:34:26.000The second you come out and you say something, I'm sure you've gotten death threats, as yours truly has.
01:34:30.000The second you say something unpopular, you understand the need to protect yourself.
01:34:33.000If you're in an echo chamber and you've never taken a risk in your positions, well, you don't understand the need for self-preservation.
01:36:14.000If he has a couple minutes, let's do, people know, a web-extended version here, ladderwithcrowder.com, to give him some thoughts, unfiltered, on the election.
01:41:07.000We'll talk about this in the last segment, about this whole myth.
01:41:10.000A lot of people who've never been in athletics or never done stand-up comedy or never done an individual sort of endeavor, when they say, oh, you just reached down deep and found it.
01:41:21.000But not in a way that's as negative as you would think.
01:41:24.000Before we get to the Amy Schumer thing, I've got this up on my screen.
01:41:28.000teen sued catholic school lily madigan an 18 year old student at saint simon stock catholic school in madestone kent sued the school became a girl and then uh administers said that she administrator said he wouldn't be able to use the women's bathroom sued and won so this is remember when they said christians are just being silly when they say this is a slippery slope Well, here we are.
01:41:54.000You have to bake cakes for any gay wedding.
01:42:38.000Speaking of which, one thing we often get, why do you talk about Amy Schumer or Lena Dunham so much?
01:42:43.000If you actually listen to the show or follow, you know, we write daily articles like six to eight every day at lotterwithcreditor.com, I'd say it's probably about 3% of what we do.
01:42:52.000The reason, however, Amy Schumer and Lena Dunham keep coming up is they're this generation's Barbra Streisand.
01:42:57.000They're being pushed as these unbelievable strong feminists.
01:44:02.000You paid for a comedy show, but Amy Schumer has decided that her opinion is so valuable, by God, you're going to hear it because she's going to do her girlfriend!
01:45:21.000Most of Amy Schumer's fans are not there for her political opinion.
01:45:24.000She goes on to say that she knew nothing about firearms until people got shot in the train wreck theater in Aurora, and that's what made her want to push banning firearms.
01:45:33.000She goes on to say that she performed for Hillary, and this is a woman who was in the back pocket of the DNC. So people, most people who go to see her are not liberals.
01:45:43.000They're not going to, or I should say, they're not social justice warriors.
01:49:18.000They started walking out and she couldn't handle it.
01:49:21.000So all of a sudden this woman who, nothing's off limits, I make fun of everything, she gets it sent back her way, she can't handle it, and she runs into the arms of Lena Dunham and Taylor Swift or whoever it is to claim professional victim as a woman.
01:49:36.000And that's why I think all these women claim rape, too, by the way.
01:49:38.000Amy Schumer, every single female comedian now, what are the chances that every female comedian working today has been raped?
01:49:44.000It seems higher and higher every day if you look at the old HuffPo polls.
01:50:29.000Every time I disagree with you, I'm going to claim I was raped or I'm going to claim that you're racist if you don't like what I have to say.
01:51:25.000Oh, the hippopotamus, known to many by its scientific name, the Amius Schumerius, commonly mistaken as nature's most affable clown.
01:51:36.000The hippopotamus conceals a more sinister nature, often only revealing itself when provoked in bombastic violent outbursts.
01:51:45.000A common fact oft overlooked by the layman, the hippopotamus is actually responsible for more deaths on the African continent than crocodiles and lions combined.
01:51:56.000This oft goes unnoticed due to the bulbous comedic nature, and the sheer physicality of the Amius Chimarius.
01:52:04.000Its rotund size, often seen as a virtue or advantage in nature, however for the hippopotamus sadly has become a crutch, on which she desperately relies for her livelihood.
01:57:00.000I'm always surprised when successful businesses come out of Montreal, considering just how stifling it is.
01:57:05.000So maybe it's like training with a weighted bat, and they get anywhere else, and it's like, oh my gosh, when you're not in a socialist place, things don't suck for business.
01:57:13.000By the way, almost all men who wear Lululemon are gay.
01:57:20.000I remember one time I was talking with my wife's friend who she swore up and down wasn't gay, and now he's out of the closet that's gay.
01:57:25.000And I remember saying, like, yeah, you know, it's just hard to find pants that fit, you know, and you have bigger legs, so I didn't have to wear, like, Under Armour.
01:58:26.000But last night, Trump wasn't horrible.
01:58:29.000And I thought he actually took it to Hillary a few times.
01:58:34.000was he was going to step all over himself once he got it rolling and he was going to get cocky.
01:58:38.000He seemed to be able to kind of rein that in a little bit.
01:58:41.000And for once, it's like, ah, maybe this isn't going to be the blowout, Hillary.
01:58:47.000But having said that, I don't know that it's going to move the needle.
01:58:51.000If you're on Twitter last night, the Hillary people thought she was winning, the Trump people thought Trump was winning, so I don't know if it's going to make any difference in polling.
01:59:00.000Have you decided what you're going to do voting Election Day?
01:59:02.000I know last time you didn't quite know.
01:59:07.000I'm in Washington, which is the blue state, so it really doesn't matter what I do.
01:59:13.000If it goes to the Electoral College, I maybe would be able to make the blowout not so much of a big deal, but One of these people has to be president.
02:01:17.000People like you or me or Jared, Jared's certainly voting for Trump, it sounds like you are, who have been critical of him, who are still looking at him, trying to keep him accountable, their reaction is last night was his best showing.
02:01:30.000The hardcore Trump supporters, if you look on Twitter, you look on YouTube, this is actually the performance with which they're most disappointed, which surprised me.
02:01:38.000They were going, "No, Trump." So I think they like when he's bombastic and he's off point and he's off target because they find it entertaining.
02:01:46.000And I think that's that disconnect that they don't understand.
02:01:48.000Not only does that not reach the voters he needs to reach, 42% ceiling, but it doesn't even reach Republicans who are looking for a reason to vote for him.
02:05:02.000I don't know that it's going to be a blowout.
02:05:05.000So much more money and so much more infrastructure.
02:05:08.000I feel like she's in a plane with a broken wing and Trump is just barrel rolling around her and he's in a death spile, but she knows that they could still collide and blow up.
02:05:30.000That's going to be made into a GIF. I can't wait to see that in a GIF. I feel like she's just sitting there like in Rocky 3 and Trump's just going to the body and she's trying to run out the clock.
02:06:37.000I still find her, when I talk to people about her and bring her up, like, man, if only that...
02:06:41.000A lot of people have wrote her off pretty early.
02:06:43.000I think that's why she squandered it so fast.
02:06:47.000If the Carly Fiorina who showed up to the first debate and blew it out right after she walked off our interview and on stage, if that Carly Fiorina, who wasn't surrounded by her handlers with this manufactured, she was fantastic, and then she scaled it back.
02:07:02.000And we've always said she ran her campaign as a contender, and then she brought in championship coaches, and they treated her like a champion as opposed to a contender.
02:07:09.000So if that Fiorina came in hungry, It wouldn't be close.
02:07:13.000Okay, well, since you're here, woman, Madonna.
02:11:11.000I think the problem is that what celebrities need to understand and just accept is that when they go political, even when they go back to being funny, like Amy Schumer can do, it taints it all.
02:11:23.000And for some people, it's a real turn-off.
02:11:24.000So they need to, that's fine, it's the right to do, but they need to understand that it's going to write off a huge part of their audience because people are, it's going to taint everything they do.
02:11:31.000In that video, she was like, before someone got shot in the theater of Trainwreck, I had never even known about gun control.
02:11:38.000So she's admitting that she's completely ignorant.
02:11:40.000Now, if you go to a Dennis Miller show, or you go to a Bill Maher show, or I'm trying to pick two sides of the spectrum, you know what you're getting.
02:12:45.000You're only supposed to listen to the leftist opinion, and if you sway from that, you're targeted.
02:12:52.000Well, doesn't this kind of thing about with Madonna, what she's basically sending as a message to young girls is to get what you want, use your body cavities.
02:13:03.000Well, and Amy Schumer's kind of done the same.
02:14:33.000So do you think culturally, like, a lot of women in your boat were like, I want strong women, but I don't want to give people a BJ to buy some votes.
02:15:03.000You know, rather than talking about Hillary's character or her qualifications, they – Madonna – and I'm sure she was joking, but it was so off-color and so disgusting.
02:15:13.000It wasn't funny, and she's – Except they'll get mad at Trump for locker room talk or they'll get mad at someone else.
02:15:20.000But nothing they say is worse than what you say or what you do.
02:15:25.000What the liberals do and say is way worse than what the Republicans...
02:15:29.000I mean, even if we're going to compare Hillary to Trump on the locker room talk, which it wasn't.
02:15:35.000But you got one guy who's saying he's kissing women against their will, essentially.
02:15:40.000And Hillary, who's covering up her husband's rapes.
02:15:58.000Well, you know, Amy Schumer now, isn't it kind of crazy how Lena Dunham, Amy Schumer, I think every single female comedian or star has been raped now?
02:16:28.000Well, but I've heard Amy Schumer do a skit on rape.
02:16:32.000And she described it as, like, not being you're out for a run and somebody takes you from behind and takes you into the park and rapes you, but...
02:16:41.000I'm saying like, haven't all of us women been like a little bit raped?
02:17:33.000So when you say everything is rape, when you say everything is racist, when you come out and say, oh, this person said a racist rape thing, like, was it?
02:21:47.000I still want, even though I make fun of them, I still would rather have Kasich and Rubio in there than the alternatives, even though I think they're not super conservative.
02:21:53.000I'm at that point now, because we do not want to lose everything.
02:21:57.000And I think Republicans need to understand that.
02:22:33.000A lot of people think, because you see this in the films, there's some dig deep moment, you never knew you could do this, and boom, it happens.
02:23:08.000Now, there is something, if you've never been tested, Where you can fool yourself into thinking you're done, and then realize that you have more inside of you.
02:23:14.000For example, when I started grappling, I would submit, or people usually tend to tap out, submit, alright, I'm done, when you get suffocated by someone on top of you.
02:23:24.000You're not in any real danger, but you can't breathe, it's like being waterboarded, you're suffocated, and so you tap.
02:23:29.000Now, you didn't dig in and find some superhuman strength after that, you just realized, oh my gosh!
02:24:06.000You want to know what the You know what the dig deep moment is?
02:24:08.000And I accept it because I'm a hobbyist.
02:24:09.000These people do it professionally, so it doesn't hurt my ego.
02:24:12.000The dig deep moment is Lucas Leche has been doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu every single day, eight hours a day, for ten years like it's his job.
02:24:20.000Do you know what his dig deep moment was?
02:24:31.000So when people try to act like this, they expect to see some kind of a, you know, some pullout miracle from Donald Trump, from Hillary Clinton, from whoever your candidate is.
02:24:45.000The dig deep moment for someone like Donald Trump is preparing for the debate, sitting down with consultants, learning about foreign policy, doing opposition research, sitting down, going to bed early, not making more campaign stuff than he needs to, pacing himself, things that Hillary Clinton has done.
02:25:11.000And so it makes a better story when people try and act as though someone who had no business winning, it just happened because there was some miracle and he heard the right music or he got a surge of inner strength.
02:25:22.000And if it does happen, it's simply a facade and you're fooling yourself.
02:25:25.000What you're actually experiencing is the years of hard work, the years of preparation that you've done, the culmination of that in one moment.
02:25:34.000So I'm not saying it to sound depressing.