Louder with Crowder - Adam Baldwin Talks #SJW and #GamerGate | Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 You've aged well, Adam.

00:00:02.000 Not to go long.

00:00:03.000 Yes!

00:00:08.000 Going back to the Jameson, you sounded like my mom. 1.00

00:00:13.000 Watching the last ship, Stephen.

00:00:15.000 Why can't you be more like Jordan?

00:00:18.000 Jordan calls me every week.

00:00:22.000 It's true, I don't call her enough.

00:00:26.000 So glad to have this next guest on the program.

00:00:29.000 Let's get the formalities out of the way.

00:00:30.000 But of course, if you don't know who he is, I mean, Full Metal Jacket is where I first saw him when I watched it at a point that was completely age-inappropriate.

00:00:39.000 And of course, Chuck, fantastic show.

00:00:41.000 Sci-fi fans, Firefly.

00:00:43.000 And right now, The Last Ship, my parents call and spoil every episode for me before I get to watch it on Hulu.

00:00:50.000 Adam Baldwin, thanks for being with us.

00:00:52.000 I appreciate you having me on.

00:00:52.000 Thanks, Stephen.

00:00:54.000 I appreciate you coming on.

00:00:56.000 It's a problem.

00:00:57.000 It's one of the few shows that my parents watch and I watch, but they have cable and I don't.

00:01:03.000 And so every episode just gets ruined. 0.99

00:01:06.000 So they call you up and say, ah, Stephen, Adam kicked ass again. 0.92

00:01:11.000 Yes, pretty much, because they also sound like 1920s paper boys. 0.96

00:01:16.000 I was going to say, that's how your mom sounds, right?

00:01:18.000 Yeah, that's how she sounds.

00:01:19.000 Ah, Stephen, Adam Baldwin, see?

00:01:22.000 It's really creepy.

00:01:24.000 You make her sound like Jameson at the Daily Bugle.

00:01:28.000 I like Jordan better.

00:01:31.000 The thing is, that's not far off at all.

00:01:35.000 My mom definitely prefers my brother.

00:01:39.000 No, but we've always talked about having you on, and I just know you're so busy that it's one of those things where I don't want to bother you.

00:01:46.000 And then I saw that you were doing every Tom, Dick, and Harry's podcast, so I said, hey, hold on a second. 0.97

00:01:50.000 I'm a dick. 0.99

00:01:51.000 You're calling me cheap, huh? 1.00

00:01:53.000 You are a cheap date.

00:01:53.000 Cheap date.

00:01:55.000 Except you're a big man, so I would assume you eat a lot.

00:01:57.000 Let's talk firstly, everyone knows, obviously, we'll get into politics.

00:02:01.000 Last Ship was kind of a sleeper hit, wasn't it?

00:02:04.000 I mean, it's become really popular, and I know it was, was it sort of a slow build?

00:02:09.000 Because when it came out, it seems like, you know, a lot of times in the summer, they kind of just put something in and hope it works.

00:02:16.000 It actually came out of the box strong.

00:02:18.000 It was a great promotional run, and it was a hit from out of the gate.

00:02:26.000 So, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

00:02:28.000 I don't know what I'm talking about here.

00:02:30.000 But it has grown, and now we're in Season 2.

00:02:33.000 Season 2 always has a natural drop-off in any show.

00:02:38.000 But we're steady as she goes, and we're very hopeful we'll do Season 3.

00:02:45.000 We don't know yet.

00:02:46.000 But we're hopeful.

00:02:47.000 The life of an actor.

00:02:49.000 I remember even back when Chuck was going on, that was kind of always, well, what's going to happen with it?

00:02:52.000 Even with the successful shows, which is why I wonder, you know, when I watch something like The Walking Dead, they'll write like two seasons out, you know, a character that'll come back from season one to season five, and the story wouldn't be complete without it.

00:03:07.000 Is that just sort of a risk you take with series like this?

00:03:10.000 Because, I mean, you know in this industry how volatile it can be.

00:03:13.000 Even if the show's doing well, some guy can go, ah, I want to try something different!

00:03:18.000 Shows that are well put together generally have what we like to call a bible in that you can have it stretch out over a five year period or three year period so that they can do that.

00:03:31.000 The other ones that sort of fly by the seat of their pants can get caught Oh, we're getting picked up again? 0.83

00:03:38.000 Crap, we've got to write more. 0.99

00:03:42.000 Hurry up. 0.99

00:03:43.000 Yeah, that happened on a show that I worked on once with ABC Family, and you could just tell.

00:03:48.000 They were like, well, let's throw in another love triangle.

00:03:50.000 Oh, we already did it.

00:03:51.000 We're making a lesbian! 1.00

00:03:52.000 And I was like, okay.

00:03:54.000 The ultimate in that, I guess, would be Seinfeld.

00:03:56.000 Just another show about nothing.

00:03:58.000 Yeah, but it's a fantastic program.

00:04:02.000 See, it worked for them because it's kind of the theme.

00:04:04.000 Unless you're not a Seinfeld fan, in which case I rescind my comment.

00:04:07.000 I love Seinfeld.

00:04:09.000 I love Curb Your Enthusiasm, too.

00:04:11.000 And a lot of conservatives got upset about it.

00:04:12.000 And I've always sort of contended that, hey, Larry David is the ultimate conservative who doesn't realize it.

00:04:19.000 Just hates political correctness.

00:04:21.000 He hates people.

00:04:22.000 He doesn't want to be involved in anyone else's life.

00:04:24.000 Doesn't want them involved with his.

00:04:25.000 You know, of course, he's just a Hollywood leftist by trade.

00:04:28.000 But if you watch it, the show, it could be written by any conservative.

00:04:33.000 Well, this is what I ask all my liberal friends, of which I have many.

00:04:37.000 How do you actually live your life as a quote-unquote liberal?

00:04:41.000 And they're hard-pressed to answer that question specifically.

00:04:45.000 Well, I care more than Republicans do.

00:04:51.000 And then it sort of trails off.

00:04:55.000 It's funny.

00:04:56.000 You pin them down and you go...

00:05:00.000 I don't know.

00:05:01.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:05:03.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:05:05.000 Halliburton! 1.00

00:05:05.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:05:07.000 Dick Cheney was for gay marriage before Obama was for gay marriage or something. 1.00

00:05:13.000 I remember I was auditioning actually one time for...

00:05:13.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:05:15.000 It was actually a hosting gig.

00:05:17.000 And at this point, someone knew that I was conservative.

00:05:21.000 And no, at this point, I had been with Fox News for a very little amount of time because I started off as an actor-comedian long before that.

00:05:27.000 And so I was still kind of in this transition phase where I was still with my old agents and they had no idea what to do with it because all of a sudden I was working at Fox.

00:05:35.000 And I was in there, you know, with these hosting gigs, they put you in and kind of circulate you with other co-hosts.

00:05:41.000 And he goes, oh, so you've been at Fox News?

00:05:43.000 He says, so, like, have you done, like, Huckabee's show?

00:05:43.000 I said, yeah.

00:05:46.000 I said, yeah.

00:05:47.000 He's actually, he's not what you'd expect.

00:05:47.000 You know, and I said, you know what?

00:05:49.000 He's a pretty funny guy.

00:05:51.000 And this guy said, who's a well-known host now, said, oh, like, what's funny about him, his views on gay marriage?

00:05:57.000 And I remember this because at that time, I looked him right in the face and I said, you mean the exact same views as Barack Obama?

00:06:02.000 Yeah.

00:06:03.000 And he didn't know what to say.

00:06:05.000 And of course, I couldn't use that now because he's changed that.

00:06:07.000 But it just goes to show you how quickly those things change.

00:06:10.000 And it's not really based on what's actually happening now.

00:06:13.000 It's based on emotion.

00:06:14.000 Well, Huckabee is a bad Christian and Obama must be for gay marriage, even though he was against it. 0.54

00:06:20.000 Well, he's evolved. 0.55

00:06:22.000 Yes.

00:06:24.000 He's evolved into a super virus.

00:06:27.000 Oh, my God.

00:06:28.000 That's like the last ship.

00:06:29.000 See what I did there?

00:06:29.000 Callback.

00:06:30.000 Yeah.

00:06:31.000 I thought we were talking about the last ship.

00:06:32.000 You bring me on and talk politics.

00:06:34.000 You pin me down, man.

00:06:35.000 That's kind of rude.

00:06:36.000 It is pretty rude.

00:06:37.000 And you're a bigger man than I. I will say this.

00:06:39.000 It's got to be hard.

00:06:40.000 They must put everyone else on Apple boxes when they're shooting with you.

00:06:44.000 Well, at least quarter apples or half apples.

00:06:48.000 You know what an eighth apple is called, right?

00:06:51.000 Okay.

00:06:52.000 Well, remember, the FCC monitors this, so let's be careful.

00:06:54.000 It's called the pancake.

00:06:54.000 But what is it?

00:06:57.000 I see what you did there.

00:06:58.000 Yeah.

00:06:59.000 I was expecting something radically offensive.

00:07:01.000 We have to go to the first break.

00:07:01.000 Oh my gosh.

00:07:03.000 We barely got into politics.

00:07:04.000 Adam Baldwin, last ship.

00:07:05.000 Watch it if you're not.

00:07:07.000 We'll be right back.

00:07:07.000 Louder with Crowder.

00:07:09.000 Back with Adam Baldwin.

00:07:10.000 I know some of you are going to get, man, why aren't you talking about politics?

00:07:13.000 So Adam, here's one thing.

00:07:14.000 You're pretty open about this and I feel like you're one of the few people who walks the line pretty well.

00:07:18.000 I mean you're an open Christian.

00:07:19.000 I don't feel like I'm letting the cat out of the bag.

00:07:22.000 You post Bible verses on your Twitter.

00:07:23.000 But you've also created some inroads with sort of factions that are pretty – I guess historically anti-Christian.

00:07:30.000 You look at Gamergate, you look at some of the sort of libertarian enclaves online, and they've been openly accepting of you.

00:07:36.000 Do you think that's because of your consistency, your sort of your cultural influence?

00:07:41.000 But why do you think that is?

00:07:44.000 Well, I think at first there was resistance to my right-of-center political viewpoints.

00:07:52.000 But when the ticking Gamergate, for example, when they came up against the authoritarian leftists in their midst, they realized that, hey, I'd rather be with this guy than those guys who are trying to shut me up.

00:08:09.000 Because I don't want to shut anybody up.

00:08:11.000 I think more speech is the solution.

00:08:12.000 to bad speech, always have.

00:08:15.000 Sure.

00:08:16.000 Except when I was a brain dead liberal back when I was young, but that doesn't matter.

00:08:19.000 Because I've evolved. - You've evolved, we've all evolved, yeah. - Yes.

00:08:24.000 But Gamergate's fascinating and I got involved because I saw something fly through the Twitter feed and it was a video post about some corruption in journalism pegged to some girl who had had an affair which I don't really care about.

00:08:42.000 That doesn't rise to the level of the gate suffix in Gamergate.

00:08:47.000 Everything's a gate now.

00:08:49.000 Watergate scandal.

00:08:50.000 So I thought, well...

00:08:53.000 Private peccadillos are not a scandal. 0.98

00:08:55.000 What is a scandal is what happened with the gaming journalists and with some of the developers and also the political infusion of radical feminism that came in that gamers are like, we don't want this crap in our video games. 0.97

00:09:13.000 Leave politics out of it. 0.89

00:09:15.000 So I thought, well, Gamergate, let's see where this goes.

00:09:18.000 Yeah, and that was a wild ride, right?

00:09:21.000 Did you brace yourself?

00:09:23.000 Oh, hell no.

00:09:24.000 I don't care.

00:09:27.000 Adam Baldwin has, for those of you listening or watching, what we call Screw You Money.

00:09:30.000 So that changes your point of view.

00:09:32.000 I'm not a gamer.

00:09:34.000 I just thought it would be interesting to see how young people who had not been exposed to any sort of right thinking...

00:09:43.000 Would react over time, and I think they become more open.

00:09:47.000 The open-minded ones surely have.

00:09:50.000 Obviously, there's always a closed-minded set that you cannot reach, the true believers you can't reach.

00:09:56.000 But I'd say the vast majority of gamers just want to be left alone to their games, to their devices.

00:10:02.000 They don't want to be preached to by the church of the left.

00:10:05.000 Right.

00:10:06.000 I will say – They revolted.

00:10:09.000 The peasants are revolting, your majesty.

00:10:12.000 Don't you dare call me your majesty.

00:10:14.000 I come from Canada where we still have the queen and our money and you're about to cross some lines, good sir.

00:10:18.000 I will say this.

00:10:20.000 I had Sargon on and I think I scared him off a bit because I wanted – I mean we did like four hours.

00:10:25.000 And we went through everything.

00:10:26.000 And I – my whole thing is I hate the whitewashing of Christianity.

00:10:29.000 I hate people who back it up when they're with a different audience.

00:10:32.000 So I just tried to be consistent.

00:10:34.000 And the people on my channel were going, oh my gosh, I love – Sargon is borderline socialist economically.

00:10:40.000 But he's so brilliant when it comes to cultural issues.

00:10:42.000 And I would say 90 percent accepting.

00:10:45.000 And then the part we uploaded on his channel, you had so many leftists who claimed to be part of the Gamergate crowd going – I'll

00:11:16.000 never watch anything you do again.

00:11:18.000 I don't know if you see that happening, but I know you've been really involved with that, and like I said, you seem to gain sort of acceptance.

00:11:23.000 I don't know if it's because you're large and they're physically afraid of you, or what?

00:11:29.000 I don't know.

00:11:30.000 Perhaps my foot in the door was the fact that I had some cultural cachet from Firefly and Serenity and some other sci-fi things, X-Files, whatnot.

00:11:39.000 But over time, that...

00:11:43.000 That coin in the realm only lasts so long.

00:11:45.000 You have to be, like you said, consistent in your viewpoints and not back down to the bullying.

00:11:50.000 And believe me, there was thousands and thousands of tweets.

00:11:54.000 I don't know if they're from bots or from replicants or whatever the hell they are that were as harassing as you could please.

00:12:04.000 But it's like, okay, so you're harassing me online and you don't like harassment?

00:12:09.000 Great, gotcha. 1.00

00:12:09.000 You're hypocrites. 1.00

00:12:10.000 I get it. 1.00

00:12:12.000 You're calling me names, oh no.

00:12:15.000 How dare you.

00:12:17.000 Over time, the truth will out.

00:12:24.000 As a Christian, we believe that he is the way and the truth and the light.

00:12:32.000 I'm going to have a trigger warning come up, but continue.

00:12:34.000 Life.

00:12:35.000 But I don't know.

00:12:38.000 I got off on a tangent there.

00:12:39.000 No, it makes a lot of sense.

00:12:41.000 And it's funny.

00:12:41.000 I will say this.

00:12:42.000 We talk about trigger warnings.

00:12:43.000 I still do find that even in dealing with all these things, even just – I don't believe in – I got off on a tangent there.

00:13:02.000 Yeah, but they're happy with Muhammad. 0.95

00:13:05.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:13:07.000 Well, I think that's because thousands of years later, Christ is still...

00:13:10.000 Or maybe I shouldn't say happy, but they're tolerant. 0.84

00:13:12.000 Yes, they are tolerant of the man who encouraged the throwing of gays off of buildings. 0.93

00:13:18.000 Let me ask you this. 0.94

00:13:19.000 Again, I don't want to let the cat out of the bag, but you're rough around the edges.

00:13:22.000 If people follow you on Twitter, you're no shrinking violet, which is also why I think I've always had a lot of respect for you.

00:13:28.000 Not to kiss your rear here, and I'll get back to denigrating you in a second. 1.00

00:13:31.000 Okay. 0.97

00:13:32.000 I think there's a lot of that sort of David syndrome where a lot of people, they want their Christians to be perfect.

00:13:38.000 They want them to be these sort of smooth stones.

00:13:41.000 They want to pumice them down.

00:13:42.000 And I remember, I won't say the exact quote, but we were talking and I was feeling pretty down.

00:13:46.000 This was pretty recent.

00:13:47.000 And you said, well, what's your prayer like when you're praying with your wife?

00:13:50.000 What are you being led to do?

00:13:52.000 And you talked about that and you had some incredible insight.

00:13:54.000 And then I was mentioning some people who were putting us under attack.

00:13:58.000 And you dropped some bombs.

00:14:00.000 You're like, ah, those bleep and bleep.

00:14:02.000 And I was sitting there going, we just switched from one to the other.

00:14:04.000 And there's nothing wrong with that because you're out there on the front lines.

00:14:08.000 And I don't think a lot of people understand what it's like to be a Christian in a public sphere like you are, have to reach those kinds of people.

00:14:14.000 You don't get to be, I forgot his name, the guy who ended up being a pedophile. 0.99

00:14:19.000 Damn it, ruin the joke, the seventh heaven father. 1.00

00:14:22.000 Crap. 1.00

00:14:23.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:14:24.000 You know who I'm talking about.

00:14:26.000 The dad on Seventh Heaven.

00:14:26.000 The pastor.

00:14:27.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:14:28.000 You're rough around the edges, but you're really solid in your beliefs.

00:14:30.000 Do you feel like that just sort of comes with being authentic in the public sphere as a Christian?

00:14:36.000 I'm really uncomfortable with that comparison you dropped in there.

00:14:40.000 Could you retract that, please?

00:14:42.000 Because that was weird. 0.83

00:14:43.000 You are nothing like the pedophile father from Seventh Heaven in real life in the show. 0.97

00:14:43.000 Yes. 0.97

00:14:49.000 Thanks, Stephen.

00:14:50.000 Appreciate it.

00:14:52.000 Well, you were the one who brought up Muhammad, and subliminally that brought me to pedophile, and this is where we ended up. 0.83

00:14:58.000 Wow.

00:14:59.000 Look, I don't know everything.

00:15:02.000 I am a fallen individual.

00:15:04.000 I am imperfect, and I am rough around the edges, as is everyone, and those that claim not to be, those that claim to be perfect, are liars.

00:15:13.000 Right.

00:15:14.000 No, but I noticed that, and it's tough because you get it from all sides, right?

00:15:18.000 And that's what the Founding Fathers knew and tried to And did for, well, up until now, I guess, enshrine into our Constitution the fact that we don't want to be ruled by imperfect men.

00:15:29.000 We want to be ruled by law, law that is determined by the will of the people, the consent of the governed.

00:15:35.000 And we're past that, it seems.

00:15:37.000 Mark Levin calls it the post-constitutional America.

00:15:40.000 It's true.

00:15:41.000 It's sad, but true.

00:15:42.000 And we let it happen.

00:15:45.000 Yep, that is absolutely true.

00:15:47.000 I mean, conservatives are every bit as much to blame as leftists are now, and they still keep making a lot of the same fatal errors.

00:15:53.000 Speaking of that, I've talked with Larry Elder about this just last week and Brad Thor.

00:15:57.000 We look at the Supreme Court ruling.

00:15:59.000 We're not even going to get into the whole gay thing if two dudes want to shack up. 1.00

00:16:03.000 But finding something as a human right that isn't a right in the Constitution, do you believe that it is...

00:16:10.000 Outside the realm of possibility, or am I being illogical and saying if they can find that right, and they don't really recognize a constitutional right in the Second Amendment, they still allow states to infringe upon that, that we could be one Supreme Court vote away from really losing access to firearms?

00:16:25.000 Do you think that could happen?

00:16:29.000 Well, no, I don't think that'll happen.

00:16:32.000 There will be attempts at that, but no, I think that's not going to happen.

00:16:37.000 Well, if it does, it's going to be messy.

00:16:41.000 Right.

00:16:41.000 Well, I don't mean they're going to say, hey, we're going to ban guns today.

00:16:43.000 I'm going back to your paperboy voice.

00:16:44.000 I mean, you saw the ammo shortage that happened.

00:16:47.000 It's just so easy to manipulate the firearm market, kind of like Smith& Wesson had to put those locks in their revolvers, and it just changed the whole market.

00:16:55.000 There are so many little things that can happen that could really create some volatility there where it would make it near impossible for the average American.

00:17:02.000 Yeah, but...

00:17:04.000 There are more than enough guns out there to outnumber the federal government, surely, and the state militias, surely, and who's going to comply.

00:17:15.000 It's all about compliance.

00:17:16.000 You'd have to have everyone complying, and that just won't happen.

00:17:19.000 And you'd also have to have everyone in the federal government forces complying with the orders, and I don't think that would happen either.

00:17:27.000 I've talked to a lot of law enforcement We're not going to enforce that.

00:17:37.000 They're not going to go door to door and kick in the houses of law-abiding citizens.

00:17:43.000 They may do it once or twice, but after that, the resistance will build.

00:17:48.000 They're just too damn many people.

00:17:50.000 It almost sounds like you're suggesting that an armed populace makes them more resistant to tyranny.

00:17:55.000 I don't want to misquote you.

00:17:57.000 Let's just go with that.

00:18:00.000 Yeah, that's one thing I always find funny.

00:18:02.000 They go, oh what, so you think that a bunch of people with AR-15s and some pistols are going to fight off the government with nuclear bombs?

00:18:10.000 Yes.

00:18:11.000 Exactly. 0.97

00:18:12.000 Oh yeah, they're going to drop bombs on their own neighborhoods.

00:18:15.000 Sure, and then what?

00:18:17.000 But I had a conversation with somebody on Twitter recently about that whole thing, and I think we got into it.

00:18:23.000 I believe it's Federalist 48 or something.

00:18:26.000 Adams was talking about how we're I don't have the exact quotes, and it's in really good language that I don't want to ruin.

00:18:35.000 But he said basically that there are too many people if they're armed for this sort of thing.

00:18:43.000 And the guy, he was trying to use the Second Amendment.

00:18:49.000 Oh, no, who was it?

00:18:49.000 It was...

00:18:51.000 One of those dumb ex-talking head guys. 1.00

00:18:55.000 His name will come to me in a second. 1.00

00:18:56.000 But his argument was, oh, the Second Amendment said in an organized militia or whatever the hell it is.

00:19:02.000 And I said, yeah, it's like the founders didn't explain what that meant in other writings, did they?

00:19:08.000 Right.

00:19:09.000 It's so clear.

00:19:10.000 There are just some things that are really clear in the Constitution.

00:19:14.000 Listen, I understand that there's a court to deal with interpretation of the law and application.

00:19:20.000 But there are some things that are so – I mean inalienable rights shall not be infringed, right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:19:25.000 Can we just find some common ground and say, ah, case closed?

00:19:29.000 Of course I come from a place in Canada where – in Quebec where we couldn't even own handguns.

00:19:34.000 So the first time I came to the States and fired one, I thought I was snorting cocaine.

00:19:38.000 It was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm doing this.

00:19:42.000 Rambling back to the constitutional argument, the – Well, let me...

00:19:48.000 I have to go to the break here because of the FCC, and then we'll bring you back and give you the floor.

00:19:52.000 Adam Baldwin, large man.

00:19:53.000 I want to keep him happy.

00:19:54.000 Lauder with Crowder.

00:19:54.000 Stay tuned.

00:19:56.000 Adam Baldwin is back.

00:19:57.000 Please don't hurt me.

00:19:58.000 You have the floor, sir.

00:19:59.000 Circling back to the constitutional argument and the last two Supreme Court decisions, there's an old saying that where the Constitution is silent, it's left to the states, and that's not what happened here.

00:20:12.000 So you do have, again, what Levin calls a judicial tyranny, and that's scary.

00:20:17.000 So, will people comply is the next question.

00:20:22.000 How can they force people to comply?

00:20:25.000 Well, I'm not talking about a government taking.

00:20:27.000 I'm talking about it could become very difficult to acquire firearms, I think, at some point.

00:20:33.000 But I do think guns are a winning issue. 0.96

00:20:34.000 I think if I were to advise right now a GOP guy, and you seem to do this too.

00:20:38.000 I think this is a big reason a lot of people really like you.

00:20:40.000 You're a Christian.

00:20:41.000 You're pretty conservative across the board.

00:20:43.000 I mean, in a way that's consistent.

00:20:45.000 But you seem to focus on winning issues.

00:20:48.000 I think right now...

00:20:50.000 Feminism has pushback. 1.00

00:20:51.000 Islam has pushback.

00:20:53.000 People are realizing and going, alright, let's stop the PC stuff here.

00:20:55.000 It's dangerous.

00:20:56.000 Guns have pushback.

00:20:57.000 There's too much data.

00:20:59.000 And the free speech thing.

00:21:00.000 Those four issues are cultural winning issues.

00:21:03.000 Do you see it that way?

00:21:05.000 I do.

00:21:06.000 And my, again, my liberal friends, to use the straw man, they have guns.

00:21:12.000 They own guns.

00:21:13.000 They just don't talk about them publicly.

00:21:15.000 Right.

00:21:17.000 I mean, you wouldn't know what guns I own, if any.

00:21:21.000 I know you own guns.

00:21:22.000 I'm pretty sure you've talked about guns on Twitter.

00:21:24.000 I don't know how many you own.

00:21:25.000 I haven't talked about owning any.

00:21:27.000 Really?

00:21:28.000 That's interesting.

00:21:29.000 It doesn't mean I don't.

00:21:32.000 It doesn't mean I do.

00:21:32.000 I just don't talk about what I have.

00:21:34.000 Right.

00:21:35.000 Well, I was asked on Russia Today, how many guns do you have?

00:21:37.000 I said that is for nobody else but me to know.

00:21:40.000 I did just tweet out because I got a sweet piece yesterday, and so that was my birthday.

00:21:44.000 A little bit of a brag there because I have an awesome wife. 1.00

00:21:47.000 If a wife buys you a.357 Magnum, I think she deserves to be praised publicly. 1.00

00:21:51.000 I know!

00:21:52.000 She's a sweetheart.

00:21:53.000 Happy wife, happy life.

00:21:54.000 Yes, exactly.

00:21:55.000 And she's all about the guns.

00:21:57.000 She's all about learning and I'm really grateful for that.

00:22:02.000 I don't know – well, again, you don't talk about guns, so that's fine.

00:22:04.000 But a lot of women – I'd like to compete with you in a three-gun challenge. 1.00

00:22:08.000 That would be fun.

00:22:10.000 Yes, we can go there.

00:22:11.000 Let's take it in that direction.

00:22:13.000 Okay, so here's another thing.

00:22:16.000 You just had people try and get rid of you.

00:22:19.000 Was it Australia at this sci-fi convention?

00:22:21.000 How does that happen?

00:22:21.000 The Gamergate people?

00:22:23.000 How do they get to the point where they actually try and stage some kind of...

00:22:26.000 Do you call that a boycott?

00:22:28.000 What is it called at that point?

00:22:30.000 Well, at first it was a petition to get me banned, but it failed.

00:22:34.000 It was...

00:22:35.000 Just a few people on Twitter, they have an algorithm where they can replicate themselves into what they call bots and sock puppet accounts.

00:22:49.000 Ten people can generate 5,000 emails to a promoter.

00:22:56.000 At first, if the promoter is not prepared, it can catch him off guard.

00:23:01.000 You see this in other cultural issues as well.

00:23:05.000 People get slammed with a bunch of emails and they react.

00:23:08.000 I mean, Bubba Watson, I guess, has now taken the Confederate flag off of the General Lee from Dukes of Hazzard, which I think is an overreaction.

00:23:20.000 I think it's an overreaction, yeah. 0.96

00:23:22.000 You can say what you like about the damn flag, love it or hate it, but the car is the car, and you're going to destroy the value of it by defacing it. 0.98

00:23:32.000 Whether you put an American flag on it or not is not the issue. 0.99

00:23:35.000 I love the American flag.

00:23:37.000 I don't have any issue with the Confederate flag.

00:23:40.000 It's not my flag.

00:23:42.000 I grew up in the North, so I don't have a dog in that hunt. 0.92

00:23:46.000 And I think a lot of people are just overreacting because they're looking to point the finger away from the over-drugged leftist crazy kid who... 0.98

00:23:58.000 Went nuts and killed people. 0.98

00:23:59.000 It seems like that's the MO of these mass killers, these shooters. 0.99

00:24:07.000 They're over-medicated youths who get off their meds and go crazy.

00:24:13.000 And they're generally products of public education and the welfare state.

00:24:18.000 And they're not conservatives.

00:24:21.000 Right.

00:24:21.000 Speaking of not conservatives, you just tweeted this at me.

00:24:23.000 So are you a Donald Trump fan or do you just like how bold he's being?

00:24:29.000 I don't know Donald Trump.

00:24:31.000 All I can see from what he's doing on the immigration issue is he's raising the issue however, as they like to say, inartfully the language may be.

00:24:42.000 Right.

00:24:43.000 It's now part of the national conversation.

00:24:45.000 So that's a good thing.

00:24:46.000 Yeah.

00:24:47.000 I think it's a good thing, too.

00:24:48.000 My issue is people saying, well, he's the only one who's going to say it.

00:24:51.000 Rick Perry, actually, my family living in Texas, having spent a lot of time there, did a lot on the immigration issue.

00:24:56.000 Oh, no, I know.

00:24:57.000 I like Rick Perry.

00:24:59.000 I'm not sure he's electable.

00:25:00.000 No, I think you're right.

00:25:02.000 But my point is this with Donald Trump.

00:25:03.000 We did a vetting piece.

00:25:04.000 I don't know if you saw it.

00:25:05.000 He's given way more to Democrats and Republicans, gave to the Clinton Foundation, both Senate and now.

00:25:10.000 He was for illegal immigration, was for socialized health care, was for abortion. 0.74

00:25:15.000 So I just – Andrew Breitbart said he wasn't conservative and I go, OK, I'm a little leery.

00:25:18.000 But I agree with you that this is valuable.

00:25:20.000 My only issue is when conservatives sort of throw other conservatives under the bus and go, well, Donald Trump is the only one saying it.

00:25:26.000 When someone like Rick Perry has been saying it for a long time, he's just not been saying it in a bombastic way and so he gets overlooked.

00:25:33.000 Yeah, well, that goes to...

00:25:35.000 The GOP's lack of media savvy, and that's their fault.

00:25:40.000 It's not Donald Trump's fault.

00:25:42.000 That's fair.

00:25:43.000 Do I think Trump can be elected president?

00:25:45.000 No.

00:25:46.000 Do I think that his contribution to this conversation is worthwhile?

00:25:53.000 Yes.

00:25:54.000 Do I think that he's damaged the GOP brand or can damage the GOP brand, as some of the GOPers are saying?

00:26:01.000 Look, they've done a good enough job on their own of doing that, so...

00:26:05.000 That's true.

00:26:06.000 What does that say about the GOP brand if Donald Trump can hurt it?

00:26:10.000 Yeah, it's like...

00:26:12.000 The GOP brand, if you look at the two faces of the GOP brand, is John Boehner and Mitch McConnell.

00:26:18.000 Hello.

00:26:20.000 This is true.

00:26:21.000 Until someone steps up, one of these candidates steps up, and I like Carly Fiorina and I like Marco Rubio, I do want a governor. 0.96

00:26:28.000 I do tend to have...

00:26:30.000 preference for a governor, an executive, to step into that role like Scott Walker, so he would probably be my favorite, but At this point, we don't know.

00:26:39.000 This is why we have primaries.

00:26:41.000 No, and I think you're right.

00:26:41.000 Exactly.

00:26:42.000 People have given me so much flack for...

00:26:43.000 I've been very critical of Trump.

00:26:45.000 Again, being in New York, working in media, without saying so much, some people have different personal experiences.

00:26:52.000 I'm not sold the guy's conservative.

00:26:53.000 I think Donald Trump is in it for Donald Trump.

00:26:55.000 And what I did write about, I wrote a vetting piece as to the reasons he's not conservative.

00:26:58.000 And then right after that, I wrote, well, here are the top five things Donald Trump brings to the race.

00:27:02.000 And the most important thing is...

00:27:03.000 You know, he's willing to poke his finger in the opponent's chest like Rahm Emanuel in the shower and go straight for the issues.

00:27:10.000 And I think that'll embolden.

00:27:12.000 You know, look at when he did the birth certificate thing.

00:27:13.000 Okay? 0.94

00:27:14.000 I think it's silly.

00:27:14.000 I'm not a birther.

00:27:15.000 All right?

00:27:15.000 Hold your emails.

00:27:16.000 Someone will go, you brought it up!

00:27:18.000 No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:27:18.000 I knew you!

00:27:20.000 But...

00:27:21.000 Along with the birth certificate, he said, you know, we don't know anything about his college records.

00:27:25.000 We don't know anything about him.

00:27:26.000 And so what happened was he went full on, you know, Tropic Thunder with the birth certificate and it allowed other GO peers to say, well, you know what?

00:27:34.000 He's out of line on that, but he's right in that there is a lack of transparency and they can sort of draft in.

00:27:40.000 I see that as valuable, but I see him maybe overreaching.

00:27:44.000 And yeah, I do think he could damage the party if he goes too far off the reservation.

00:27:49.000 So he could damage the party in the eyes of MSNBC and the Washington Post and the New York Times?

00:27:55.000 No, in the eyes of everyday Americans.

00:27:57.000 I mean, you know, people, most people, if you look at them who watch like Celebrity Apprentice, I mean, you know these numbers, anywhere between 20, 30, I mean, it's a highly rated show.

00:28:05.000 Most people didn't like Donald Trump. 0.99

00:28:07.000 They thought he was an ass. 1.00

00:28:09.000 That's not me saying it. 1.00

00:28:10.000 That's most people. 0.55

00:28:12.000 Anyone who reads his book will think he's a horrendous person.

00:28:15.000 I mean, if you read his Art of the Comeback, he just says some really mean-spirited things.

00:28:18.000 So my thing is I'm going, yeah, he can definitely get in front of the media, but if they can attribute some of the horrendous things he said to conservatives, I think that could be a rough crime.

00:28:29.000 Well, they're going to do that anyway.

00:28:30.000 They're already doing it.

00:28:31.000 So that horse is out of the gate.

00:28:34.000 You know, they hated quote-unquote Simon Cowell, too.

00:28:39.000 And he's huge.

00:28:41.000 Huge star. 0.99

00:28:42.000 Huge man boobs. 0.99

00:28:43.000 I don't know how that body type happens. 0.99

00:28:48.000 Have you met him?

00:28:49.000 Have you met him?

00:28:49.000 I haven't.

00:28:52.000 No.

00:28:53.000 Okay, I thought you were going to have a story about, like, I met him and those things were like speed bags.

00:28:57.000 I thought you were going to have a good Simon Cowell man-boob story.

00:29:01.000 Well, listen, okay, we'll end the radio portion here.

00:29:04.000 For those listening, terrestrially uncensored, the next portion here, you can follow it at lottowithcreder.com.

00:29:10.000 Last ship, watch that. 1.00

00:29:12.000 Uncensored on the website.

00:29:14.000 Continued.

00:29:15.000 Adam Baldwin, we are off the reservation.

00:29:17.000 You can say whatever you want.

00:29:18.000 Now there are no guidelines here.

00:29:21.000 So you make a good point.

00:29:22.000 You don't think that there's really any way that Donald Trump could be more of a liability than people have already been in the GOP. Is that sort of fair to say?

00:29:30.000 Yeah, that's fair.

00:29:31.000 And I think it's so early in the cycle.

00:29:35.000 And the experts, I've seen some experts, quote-unquote, from Washington with their Twitter.

00:29:40.000 I follow them and I respect their opinions, but they think that it's all...

00:29:44.000 It's all starting to happen now and the narrative is gaining.

00:29:47.000 I don't think most people are even paying attention.

00:29:50.000 They don't pay attention until next year.

00:29:54.000 I'm looking at your face right now by Skype.

00:29:55.000 My God, that is a good-looking man.

00:29:57.000 Let me ask you something unrelated.

00:29:59.000 You've aged well, Adam.

00:30:02.000 Clean limit.

00:30:04.000 Yes!

00:30:07.000 Going back to the Jameson.

00:30:09.000 You sounded like my mom.

00:30:13.000 Watching the last ship, Stephen.

00:30:15.000 Why can't you be more like Jordan?

00:30:18.000 Jordan calls me every week.

00:30:22.000 It's true.

00:30:22.000 I don't call her enough.

00:30:24.000 And I love my – she's great.

00:30:26.000 She's actually been on the show.

00:30:27.000 She's French-Canadian and she will say – she would like – I would love her in a cabinet because she would deal with illegal immigration. 0.98

00:30:33.000 If someone had to go through it legally, she would just be like, well, you know, it was very hard for me to get my card.

00:30:39.000 The people don't even speak English. 0.64

00:30:41.000 The brown people, let's send them back. 1.00

00:30:43.000 That's what she would say. 0.99

00:30:44.000 Them there tabernacks. 0.98

00:30:46.000 Them there tabernacks. 0.98

00:30:48.000 Yeah.

00:30:49.000 You have aged well.

00:30:50.000 And here's one thing I have – and I've talked with my brother about this.

00:30:53.000 Full disclosure, Jordan knows Adam and he's been a good guy to us.

00:30:56.000 You don't attempt to look younger than you are.

00:31:00.000 So you look like a good-looking sort of middle-aged older guy.

00:31:05.000 You're not going the full like Judge Reinhold Botox.

00:31:09.000 And was that a conscious decision or did you just say – I can't do anything about it anyway.

00:31:14.000 I'm 53, you know.

00:31:16.000 I mean, it is what it is.

00:31:16.000 That is.

00:31:18.000 Right.

00:31:20.000 Yeah, but you look in your early 50s, but you look like a guy who's kept it together in his early 50s.

00:31:26.000 Why is it that so many people your age in the entertainment industry feel like, well, I can't be a good-looking 53-year-old.

00:31:32.000 I'm 53.

00:31:33.000 I've got to try and be a good-looking 32-year-old.

00:31:35.000 I mean, because it's with men just as much as the women. 1.00

00:31:37.000 Let's not act like it's sexism.

00:31:38.000 In the entertainment industry, I mean, look at Rourke.

00:31:40.000 Look at all of these actors who just, you know, they can't even smile for crying out loud.

00:31:45.000 Yeah.

00:31:46.000 I don't know.

00:31:47.000 John Wayne wore a toop, so...

00:31:49.000 Did he?

00:31:50.000 It goes back a long way.

00:31:52.000 What about Sinatra?

00:31:54.000 Come on.

00:31:55.000 I didn't know this.

00:31:57.000 It's show business, man.

00:32:00.000 So why didn't you?

00:32:01.000 Like, why didn't you get all the...

00:32:03.000 Maybe I'm wrong, and you just had, like, a really great...

00:32:03.000 I mean, maybe you have.

00:32:06.000 Oh, I've definitely worn wigs. 0.90

00:32:07.000 What the hell?

00:32:08.000 No, I mean, like, you're not getting the... 0.95

00:32:10.000 I mean, you don't look like a figurine.

00:32:12.000 Maybe you're getting just really good microdermabrasions, but, you know, like I said, it seems like you're willing to age into, you know...

00:32:19.000 Oh, I think that's just genetic.

00:32:20.000 I mean, my mom had good skin, and my dad had good skin, so I guess that's just the genetic.

00:32:25.000 That's my privilege.

00:32:29.000 Yeah, and your clean living.

00:32:31.000 I feel terribly guilty about it.

00:32:33.000 I drink a lot of water, actually.

00:32:35.000 Do you really drink a lot of water?

00:32:36.000 I do drink a lot of water.

00:32:38.000 I take my vitamins, I take vitamin E, and I try to wear sunscreen when I go play golf.

00:32:45.000 You know, common sense stuff.

00:32:48.000 Don't drink too much.

00:32:51.000 Well, that's tough to do at your size.

00:32:51.000 alcohol.

00:32:53.000 I actually, you know, Gay Jared, my producer, actually, if you want to hear this story, Gay Jared is very little.

00:32:58.000 He's a little man.

00:32:59.000 And that's why so many people, you know, that's why you can just look at him and know that he's gay.

00:33:03.000 We went out one night to have a few beers, you know, and it was a bunch of like a brewery tour.

00:33:08.000 And I'm sure you probably have a high tolerance, even though I'm certainly not assuming you drink a lot, Adam.

00:33:12.000 You don't realize probably if you're around someone of normal size that they Gay Jared, you remember that? 1.00

00:33:18.000 You were swimming to the restroom.

00:33:20.000 I don't remember that, actually.

00:33:21.000 You don't remember that?

00:33:24.000 That is the problem.

00:33:25.000 You got Gay Jared to blackout drunk? 0.99

00:33:28.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:33:29.000 No, no.

00:33:29.000 We didn't.

00:33:30.000 I vaguely remember it.

00:33:31.000 I do remember stumbling to the bathroom a little bit.

00:33:33.000 I was trying to be a guy.

00:33:34.000 I was trying to be a guy.

00:33:35.000 You know, you guys, all 220s.

00:33:35.000 I was trying to sit with you guys.

00:33:38.000 You gotta know your limitations, man.

00:33:40.000 You gotta know when to start drinking water.

00:33:42.000 I do know them now.

00:33:44.000 That is the benefit.

00:33:45.000 That's what we got from the story.

00:33:48.000 Well, we had one guy who was almost exactly your size.

00:33:50.000 6'4", 6'5", Adam?

00:33:50.000 What are you about?

00:33:52.000 Maybe 6'5", 6'4 and a half, something like that.

00:33:55.000 Okay.

00:33:56.000 That's what he was.

00:33:57.000 He played football at Notre Dame.

00:33:58.000 He's about 6'4", 245.

00:33:59.000 And I'm 6'2", 2 and a quarter.

00:34:01.000 And Gay Jared is, what are you, 5'9", about 45? 0.66

00:34:05.000 Yeah, $1.50.

00:34:06.000 Yeah, $1.50.

00:34:07.000 So it's a rough night for him if he goes out with us and we're just having a few beers over the course of the evening with some Mexican food.

00:34:13.000 Just drink half.

00:34:15.000 Yeah, Jared. 0.93

00:34:16.000 Gay Jared, why didn't you think about that? 0.91

00:34:18.000 Drink little shandies that the ladies drink in England. 1.00

00:34:21.000 They give them like little half ginger ale, half beer.

00:34:25.000 Well, see, I was drinking cider, so I felt the need to at least drink the full cider to count as like half a beer.

00:34:29.000 That's just juice, right?

00:34:31.000 The demand points are not the same.

00:34:32.000 They don't trade off.

00:34:33.000 I'm drinking cider.

00:34:33.000 It's just juice, right?

00:34:36.000 Well, that's funny.

00:34:37.000 I'll be fine.

00:34:38.000 I'll be fine.

00:34:39.000 I'll just drink it.

00:34:40.000 Well, that's what's funny.

00:34:41.000 A lot of mass-produced cider, and then I'll bring this back to the culture war, Adam.

00:34:45.000 A lot of mass-produced cider is actually apple juice sort of reconstituted, and they just add in alcohol as opposed to like real fermented cider.

00:34:52.000 Cider in the U.K., Two words.

00:35:17.000 Gluten-free.

00:35:20.000 Are you gluten-free?

00:35:22.000 No.

00:35:23.000 Have you ever been gluten-free?

00:35:26.000 I am not now, nor have I ever been gluten-free.

00:35:29.000 Although, it does help some people.

00:35:31.000 I've seen it in close dear friends and family.

00:35:35.000 It does work for some people.

00:35:41.000 Well, yeah, if you have celiac, which is less than 1% of population Earth, and you eat gluten, it's not like, I think I have a tummy ache.

00:35:48.000 Like, you get very sick.

00:35:49.000 It's like, ah!

00:35:49.000 You know, you're vomiting up your kidney.

00:35:52.000 It's the only disease, though, that people just sort of get to claim.

00:35:55.000 Like, no one's like, I think I'm just...

00:35:56.000 I have a little bit of AIDS. I'm AIDS intolerant, really.

00:36:01.000 Wow.

00:36:02.000 Why did you...

00:36:02.000 You don't need...

00:36:03.000 I mean...

00:36:06.000 You didn't need to say that with that little lilt in your voice.

00:36:09.000 I was imitating a woman who was gluten free. 1.00

00:36:12.000 What were you thinking?

00:36:13.000 Oh, I see.

00:36:14.000 Okay.

00:36:14.000 I don't know.

00:36:15.000 You know what?

00:36:15.000 You're just attributing your microaggressions onto me, and that's exactly what Jesse Jackson was talking about.

00:36:22.000 You're triggering me.

00:36:24.000 Don't make me go.

00:36:25.000 Go ahead.

00:36:26.000 No, I wasn't going to say anything.

00:36:28.000 Like I said, we're off the reservation on the podcast.

00:36:30.000 If you were to say one thing right now, because you're not inherently a political guy.

00:36:33.000 You're a cultural guy who happens to be smart enough to, I guess...

00:36:38.000 I've read Thomas Sowell and understood him.

00:36:41.000 Yes, exactly.

00:36:41.000 Right.

00:36:43.000 And when – I didn't know you.

00:36:45.000 When Big Hollywood started, before it was Breitbart, sort of the trademark that it is now, I mean the first site was Big Hollywood.

00:36:51.000 And it was – you were one of the first people there.

00:36:54.000 I remember Alfonso, Ben Shapiro, myself, I think Gary Graham back then.

00:36:58.000 How did you come to know Andrew?

00:37:01.000 I met him at a get-together of a secret organization of which will remain nameless.

00:37:09.000 Right.

00:37:09.000 And we just struck up a conversation about life in general and Hollywood, and we became fast friends.

00:37:09.000 Right.

00:37:18.000 He's one of the sweetest, nicest, most lovable people you'll ever meet.

00:37:22.000 Yeah, that is true.

00:37:24.000 I called him because I heard him on the Dennis Miller show, and I was like, oh, big Hollywood.

00:37:28.000 And at this point, I had no idea that there were even any other sort of right-leaning people in Hollywood.

00:37:34.000 There are a lot.

00:37:35.000 There are lots.

00:37:36.000 Yes.

00:37:37.000 It's a silent majority, I think.

00:37:40.000 Do you think it's actually a majority?

00:37:41.000 I do.

00:37:42.000 Really?

00:37:43.000 Why?

00:37:43.000 I do.

00:37:44.000 Well, because of the sets that I've been on and visited and the people that I talked to.

00:37:49.000 And even the liberals are economically conservative.

00:37:53.000 They see their tax dollars.

00:37:55.000 There are very few people who actually walk the walk like an Ed Begley Jr., who I can respect.

00:38:00.000 I respect the fact that he walks his talk.

00:38:04.000 So God bless him.

00:38:05.000 I don't agree with him.

00:38:07.000 I don't think that man is warming the planet, but he believes it and he composts and he rides his bicycle and great, good for him.

00:38:14.000 But the rest of the folks, they see their paychecks.

00:38:17.000 I'm talking about like the rank and file.

00:38:19.000 They see their paychecks every week and they say, where the hell is all this money going?

00:38:23.000 I'm working 60 hours a week and I'm making the same basically that I was when I was working 48 hours a week.

00:38:30.000 So I got kicked up into another tax bracket.

00:38:32.000 So they see that.

00:38:34.000 It really comes down to the cultural...

00:38:37.000 The divide that was created back in the 60s through the 70s and all that stuff with abortion and gay marriage and gay rights, those are the divisive issues for Hollywood because Hollywood is culturally very accepting of all different kinds of people, as long as they're good-looking.

00:38:55.000 This is true.

00:38:57.000 Just kidding.

00:38:58.000 No, but you're not.

00:38:59.000 If you're not good-looking, you're what they call a character actor.

00:39:03.000 Yeah, there's that great SNL sketch with Tom Brady, the sexual harassment instructional video.

00:39:12.000 So, rule number one in sexual harassment, be handsome.

00:39:16.000 Rule number two, don't be not handsome.

00:39:19.000 Yeah, don't be Fred Armisen, who is also brilliant, but not Tom Brady.

00:39:25.000 No, I used to message him back and forth when MySpace was still a thing, and he was very, very nice.

00:39:29.000 You could just tell he was a genuinely kind person.

00:39:32.000 Of course, leans to the left, but we emailed back and forth for a long, long time.

00:39:37.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.

00:39:37.000 Yeah, great sketch.

00:39:38.000 Continue with your Hollywood.

00:39:41.000 That's it.

00:39:42.000 Basically, the rank and file is center-right or centrist, except on those two cultural issues.

00:39:50.000 Do you think that'll ever change, or do you think that'll always remain that way?

00:39:54.000 I was listening to Ben Shapiro.

00:39:55.000 He's on Morning Show here, and I won't do it justice on how he described it, but basically he said that the problem with the Republican Party is that they won't address each individual person or group's number one issue and embrace it,

00:40:15.000 whereas the Democrats will take Each individual group's number one issue, be it abortion, be it taxes, be it whatever, and they'll embrace it and say, yep, we're on your side, and they'll get that group, whereas the GOP is more like, well, no, we can agree with you on this, but we can't agree with you on that, and they'll reject the number one issue for that one group or person, and they'll lose them as voters over one issue.

00:40:41.000 Shapiro explained it much more articulately than that, but that's basically the gist.

00:40:46.000 Yeah, well, my brother out there listens to that show and actually really likes the liberal guy in that show. 0.95

00:40:50.000 He's like, they treat him like crap, and he's actually really funny. 0.94

00:40:52.000 That's all my brother says. 0.99

00:40:54.000 This one guy in there is kind of liberal, but he's really funny, and they just crap all over him.

00:40:58.000 Yeah, not evil, like Andrew said, not evil, just wrong.

00:41:02.000 Yeah, and my brother's like, they treat him pretty harshly, and he seems like a decent guy.

00:41:07.000 Maybe it's their shtick, but Andrew was really good about that too, and Andrew sort of, I remember talking about abortion with them at one point, and you realize that there are arguments to be made on both of those cultural issues that don't need to be faith-based, that don't need to be fire and brimstone, that can be made logically, and it's just not the arguments that the GOP, for whatever reason, has picked up.

00:41:29.000 The GOP makes a mistake in Only embracing it as a social or religious issue, which it is, but it's mainly a political issue.

00:41:42.000 And it has to be addressed that way because you're never going to get it to zero, where there's zero abortions that are allowed, and you're never going to get it to 100%.

00:41:52.000 So somewhere in between is the compromise politically.

00:41:56.000 Where is that?

00:41:57.000 And I guess it's at 20 weeks now.

00:42:00.000 It's creeping downward, which is good, but it'll never get to zero.

00:42:04.000 So I guess you can dig your heels in and say, if, you know, be 100 percent, I'm totalitarian on that, but you're not going to win it.

00:42:13.000 Actually, I don't know if you saw Fiorina on The View.

00:42:13.000 Right.

00:42:16.000 We posted that, and no one else was really covering it up to that point.

00:42:20.000 People had kind of posted it and buried it where she was in The View, and she talked about that.

00:42:25.000 And she had two really, really good points.

00:42:27.000 One, she said, well, I believe any feminist should – I believe a feminist is any woman who makes the choice. 1.00

00:42:32.000 She said a woman who is CEO of a corporation or who owns a business who chose to do that, that's a feminist to me. 1.00

00:42:37.000 She said a stay-at-home mom who chose to do that, that's a feminist to me. 1.00

00:42:40.000 She said as long as she has that choice, they had no response.

00:42:41.000 long as she has that choice, they had no response.

00:42:43.000 They were silent.

00:42:44.000 And then she talked about abortion and she talked about late term abortion.

00:42:48.000 She said, well, let's find some common ground where the majority of Americans are against late term abortions. 0.94

00:42:52.000 And they were dead silent, Adam, for the entire interview until she said most Americans are against late term abortions. 0.95

00:42:59.000 And everyone in the view, this is what lit the fire under their ass to get up was to support late term abortion. 0.98

00:43:05.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. 0.99

00:43:07.000 And she basically responded with, listen, the numbers, boom, done, case closed.

00:43:10.000 People are opposed to it.

00:43:11.000 But that to me is where I think there's a disconnect between sort of the James Camerons, the really progressive leftists who are for late-term abortions and most of, like you said, the rank-and-file people, even culturally.

00:43:23.000 I don't think you'd find a ton of liberals across this country who would be for abortion past 22 weeks.

00:43:29.000 Am I completely just off my rocker?

00:43:32.000 No, I think you're right.

00:43:33.000 I think that knee-jerk reaction, no, no, no, comes from their fear of the slippery slope, that it will get rolled back to zero, which it won't.

00:43:44.000 That's just irrational to think that it would go all the way back to zero.

00:43:47.000 Much as I or you may want that, you can't get it.

00:43:52.000 So you have to look and live in the real world, and the real world is there's a compromise at some point And my cutoff would be, okay, does the baby have...

00:44:03.000 Yes, the baby is life.

00:44:04.000 We agree with that.

00:44:05.000 And does the baby have a face, fingers, toes, brain activity, heartbeat?

00:44:12.000 Then I think you've got to look at it on an ultrasound and see, yep, that's a baby. 0.55

00:44:17.000 So that baby has to have rights at some point.

00:44:20.000 Right.

00:44:21.000 And where is that?

00:44:23.000 Where is that?

00:44:24.000 Right.

00:44:24.000 Yeah, it's a medical argument.

00:44:26.000 Hitchens even talked about that, and certainly not a Christian.

00:44:29.000 We as a people, as a society, have to decide where that is.

00:44:34.000 And until we do and agree on it and have it voted on, as they did in Great Britain, they solved the abortion issue via popular vote.

00:44:46.000 And so the people spoke, whereas we had it sort of shoved down our throats by the Supreme Court, which is why it rages on.

00:44:55.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

00:44:57.000 I mean there definitely is sort of a constant there where when the Supreme Court just says we're going to decide and people feel like they didn't have a chance to hash it out, the issue was never put to bed.

00:45:07.000 Right.

00:45:09.000 Yeah.

00:45:11.000 Yeah.

00:45:11.000 I mean, even you look in California with the same-sex marriage thing.

00:45:15.000 I remember being there with that.

00:45:18.000 Was it Prop 8?

00:45:20.000 It was Prop 8, right?

00:45:21.000 First it was 22, then it was 8.

00:45:23.000 And it was – I was surprised being in LA and I think people don't realize how conservative California can be once you go out of LA and San Francisco.

00:45:30.000 And people voted on it and Prop 8 and it was voted.

00:45:34.000 I remember it was nowhere near as volatile after Prop 8 even though you had the gay rights activists who were mad.

00:45:39.000 It was nowhere near as volatile as when the court went back and just overturned it.

00:45:43.000 That's when people got really pissed because they felt like their voice didn't matter.

00:45:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:45:50.000 And it's also the further away you get from the locality.

00:45:54.000 Again, the U.S. Constitution, federal constitution is silent on the matter, so the states should decide it on their own.

00:46:01.000 I guess Justice Kennedy and the other three or four, whoever, three, whatever it was, the four liberals, they just, by fiat, said, nope, we get to decide.

00:46:14.000 That's dangerous.

00:46:15.000 Now, again, I'm not pro-org.

00:46:17.000 I don't have any dog in this fight.

00:46:18.000 I live in California.

00:46:20.000 It's part of the law of the land.

00:46:23.000 Great.

00:46:24.000 Fine.

00:46:25.000 Live your own life.

00:46:25.000 Terrific.

00:46:26.000 I don't care about people's private lives.

00:46:28.000 Or what his name is.

00:46:31.000 I care about judicial tyranny from afar in Washington, D.C. That's what bothers me.

00:46:38.000 And if they can do that, what can't they do?

00:46:41.000 That's true.

00:46:41.000 And then I'll leave you with this in the final issue then because you talk about that.

00:46:44.000 And I've gotten a lot of emails, people who were really mad that I said I wasn't a Confederate flag guy.

00:46:48.000 I'm a Lincoln guy.

00:46:49.000 I'm Team Lincoln.

00:46:49.000 I'm glad the Union won.

00:46:51.000 Me too.

00:46:52.000 Yeah, me too.

00:46:53.000 Right.

00:46:53.000 Well, people got really mad at me and they go, well, you don't understand states' rights.

00:46:57.000 And that's the thing.

00:46:57.000 Lincoln was one of the first guys to abuse the concept of states' rights and impose federal law.

00:47:02.000 And I said, well, hold on.

00:47:03.000 I understand where you're coming from.

00:47:05.000 But states' rights don't supersede human rights.

00:47:08.000 They're going, well, whether you liked it or not, slavery at that point was a constitutionally protected right.

00:47:12.000 I have this email.

00:47:13.000 I'm going, well, you didn't consult the slave in the matter.

00:47:15.000 So I don't think I'm being inconsistent by saying, yes, the federal government needed to step in.

00:47:20.000 To make sure everyone had unalienable rights, that all men were created equal before states' rights. 0.69

00:47:27.000 And I can't for the life of me see how that's inconsistent, but a lot of conservatives have gotten mad at me and basically say I'm a statist for being Team Lincoln.

00:47:38.000 Yeah, well, they're on the losing side.

00:47:40.000 They're not sure it's the wrong side, but it was the losing side.

00:47:43.000 Yeah, and those are the same people who say this country is gone.

00:47:46.000 I was surprised at the 4th of July, people going, it's not a great country anymore.

00:47:49.000 I'm going, let me guess, you're a confederate, you conceded the first war, so you're so quick to concede the war now, I guess, and roll over.

00:47:55.000 Yeah, but I think it's a squirrel.

00:47:58.000 They point at the flag and the confederate flag and say, that's the problem.

00:48:02.000 No, no, no, that's not the problem.

00:48:04.000 It was just a distraction from the real problem, and the real problem is the way children are raised or aborted in this country.

00:48:11.000 In these huge numbers or educated by government education.

00:48:17.000 That's the biggest obstacle we have as conservatives is to take back the schools or the education of our children.

00:48:26.000 Because until that happens, you're just going to get more liberalism.

00:48:31.000 No, I think you're right.

00:48:32.000 But I wish people focused on that.

00:48:34.000 To me, I was going, this is a perfect opportunity.

00:48:36.000 A Confederate flag.

00:48:38.000 Just let Democrats own it.

00:48:40.000 Lincoln, Republican, you know, voting rights, Civil Rights Act.

00:48:43.000 Republicans have been on the right side of every civil rights issue.

00:48:46.000 Let them own it.

00:48:47.000 Southern Democrats.

00:48:48.000 And what I'm talking about is there was a law – a pretty big conservative contingency who were not talking about the flag and businesses running the flag.

00:48:56.000 They have every right to sell the flag.

00:48:58.000 Everyone has the right to fly whatever flag they want.

00:49:00.000 But supporting it under the idea that it was states' rights to either enforce slavery or not and that it didn't need to be federally abolished.

00:49:08.000 And I thought that was such a missed opportunity for conservatives.

00:49:11.000 I mean it's Lincoln.

00:49:13.000 We're not going to have a better ambassador, right, as a starting off point.

00:49:17.000 that's true Another thing you've got to look at is who's running corporations now and What are they looking at?

00:49:24.000 If they're looking at social media, so you've got a lot of young people in the social media sphere in corporations that raise these red flags.

00:49:31.000 Uh-oh, there's a Twitter inquisition.

00:49:33.000 We better fold.

00:49:34.000 So instead of them just saying, just don't say anything.

00:49:38.000 Like Bubba Watson, he could have just not said anything and left the General Lee in his garage, and it would have blown over, and the car would have maintained its value.

00:49:47.000 I don't think he's going to paint it over.

00:49:49.000 I bet he doesn't do it.

00:49:50.000 Yeah, I think you're probably right.

00:49:51.000 I don't think he paints it over either.

00:49:53.000 I don't even think he realized or thought it was offensive until this all came up.

00:49:57.000 Of course not.

00:49:58.000 No, I think you're right.

00:49:59.000 Well, we're going to let you go, Senior Baldwin, unless you have anything else you want to add to it.

00:50:03.000 But last ship for people who don't know.

00:50:05.000 Where, when can they find it?

00:50:07.000 And you should find it, folks.

00:50:09.000 It's Sunday nights on TNT. Sunday nights on TNT. Can you give us any juicy teasers for what's coming up?

00:50:17.000 Juicy teasers.

00:50:19.000 Well...

00:50:20.000 The crew of the Nathan James has survived the initial apocalypse and is traveling in and around the Norfolk area, and they run into a group of bad guys on land that are immune.

00:50:32.000 Okay, okay.

00:50:33.000 I see where this is going.

00:50:34.000 I'm seeing a pattern here with this virus and this ship.

00:50:38.000 You guys seem to be survivors, and I dig it.

00:50:42.000 Adam Baldwin, thank you so much for being on.

00:50:44.000 We appreciate it, and keep doing what you're doing.

00:50:46.000 We really do.

00:50:46.000 It's important out there.

00:50:48.000 Seek truth.

00:50:49.000 Take care, brother.

00:50:50.000 Thank you, senor.

00:50:51.000 We will be right back.

00:50:52.000 Actually, we won't.

00:50:53.000 You're on the internet.

00:50:53.000 We're in uncharted territory.

00:50:55.000 So just go home.

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Louder with Crowder - July 11, 2015

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