Louder with Crowder - Biden vs. Trump! First Presidential Debate | Ted Cruz Guests | #CrowderDebateStream

00:00:00.000 My name is Mr. Susan.

00:00:01.000 You must choose.

00:00:02.000 And now it is time for you to do the choosin'.

00:00:05.000 I got new kids.

00:00:07.000 Shout out.

00:00:09.000 You must choose.

00:00:10.000 School is here.

00:00:11.000 Bimbo, bimbo. 0.99

00:00:12.000 My name is Mr. Susan.

00:00:13.000 You must choose.

00:00:14.000 And now it is time for you to do the choosing.

00:00:16.000 I am Mr. Peabody.

00:00:18.000 Do the Susan.

00:00:19.000 I got new kids.

00:00:20.000 From the very beginning, the governor was allowing COVID positive patients to be placed

00:00:27.000 in the same nursing home as COVID negative patients.

00:00:31.000 Many in the legislature disagreed and went to work to try and change the policy.

00:00:35.000 But the governor now has vetoed it.

00:00:37.000 Governor Whitmer is still standing by her policy of placing COVID-positive patients in nursing homes with people who are COVID-negative.

00:00:45.000 There hasn't been one nursing home that has taken a COVID-19 patient that they didn't think that they were prepared to care for.

00:00:51.000 Across the state, nursing homes are not prepared with enough PPE.

00:00:55.000 I'd like to hear what data was relied on to pick nursing homes to bring in COVID patients,

00:01:02.000 to infect those that weren't infected, to kill those loved ones.

00:01:06.000 Welcome to the debate stream. 0.91

00:01:17.000 We'll be back after this really quickly with the drinking rule games, the hashtags, the promo code.

00:01:22.000 But we wanted to start this off because as it relates to debate, I'm a ham and egger, really.

00:01:28.000 I'm not a pro.

00:01:30.000 Our next gentleman is, we wanted to pregame with him, he is a sitting senator and a favorite of the show.

00:01:36.000 Of course you know his podcast is The Verdict, or sorry, Verdict with Ted Cruz.

00:01:39.000 The Verdict is a Paul Newman film, but he does have a new book about the Supreme Court.

00:01:42.000 One vote away coming out October 6th.

00:01:45.000 Senator Cruz, thank you for being here, sir.

00:01:48.000 Stephen, great to be with you.

00:01:50.000 One minor adjustment.

00:01:52.000 The book was coming October 6th.

00:01:54.000 We actually released it a week early, so today is its international debut.

00:01:59.000 The book, One Vote Away, all about the Supreme Court, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

00:02:05.000 It released today, available Amazon, Barnes & Noble, anywhere you buy books, it's available right now.

00:02:10.000 Well, I apologize for that.

00:02:12.000 I thought when you said one minor adjustment, you were going to point out that I needed to make an adjustment.

00:02:16.000 So, thank you for correcting us.

00:02:20.000 It's available now at Barnes & Noble where those exist.

00:02:23.000 The only one around here is a cafe that happens to sell magazines.

00:02:28.000 Still counts.

00:02:29.000 So Stephen, I gotta ask something because the video just came through.

00:02:32.000 Dear God, man, tell me you're wearing pants.

00:02:34.000 I am.

00:02:35.000 Yeah, it's American flag.

00:02:36.000 These are the Butterbean shorts.

00:02:37.000 These are regulation-sized boxing shorts.

00:02:39.000 But after sitting down in front of a current senator, I realize there's a reason that they don't do the interview in the shorts.

00:02:48.000 It's largely relegated to the ring exclusively.

00:02:50.000 All right, speaking of the ring, we've got a barn burner tonight, Senator Cruz.

00:02:54.000 What do you expect from the debates between Donald Trump and Joe Biden?

00:02:58.000 Do you think they still might wheel out that old, like, music class television with the VCR with just a picture of Biden's head on it?

00:03:04.000 I'm not convinced he's showing up.

00:03:07.000 So I expect Trump to punch Biden in the nose, probably figuratively and not literally.

00:03:16.000 50-50 shot.

00:03:21.000 And I expect Biden to scream and run away.

00:03:27.000 Okay.

00:03:29.000 Now that seems literal, not figurative.

00:03:31.000 I could see Joe Biden actually doing that.

00:03:35.000 Well, look, he's been in the basement for six months.

00:03:38.000 I don't think he's actually seen human interaction.

00:03:44.000 Look, I will say in seriousness, I'm worried that conservatives and the right have convinced ourselves that Joe Biden has full-on dementia.

00:03:56.000 Right. 1.00

00:03:59.000 And he's clearly slowed down a little bit, but if we were being honest, Joe said stupid stuff when he was in his twenties. 1.00

00:04:07.000 Sure. 0.99

00:04:09.000 And we have defined the bar down so low that no matter what Joe Biden does, if he falls on the ground, curls in the fetal position and cries, tomorrow the media will say Biden won.

00:04:24.000 Right, as opposed to reporting that that's a repeat of his 88 campaign, which you guys can check the tape.

00:04:30.000 No, I think you're right, and here's the thing too, I'm not so much concerned about the low expectations, though I agree, I am just concerned as to whether President Trump has bought into that and not prepared, because Joe Biden could be in the basement, he could be hitting, you know, Racks of beef, for all we know.

00:04:47.000 And, by the way, I've had relatives with dementia and Alzheimer's, and they can have moments of great clarity, where it's just like a light switch switches on, and then all of a sudden the circuit breaks.

00:04:56.000 So, no, I do think that's important.

00:04:59.000 Except, remember, Joe's running in the Democratic primary, so he wouldn't actually be hitting beef, he'd be, like, beating up on tofu somewhere.

00:05:06.000 Right, yes, exactly.

00:05:07.000 I think he'd just be, like, smacking a spoon into miso soup repeatedly.

00:05:12.000 And that would be enough.

00:05:14.000 It's a soup spoon!

00:05:16.000 I think that's a good point.

00:05:17.000 Let me ask you this.

00:05:19.000 If you were President Trump right now, you're going out tonight and you're handling Joe Biden, what would you do?

00:05:24.000 How would you handle it?

00:05:27.000 Focus on issues and substance.

00:05:30.000 We win, they lose on issues.

00:05:32.000 Free enterprise works, socialism doesn't.

00:05:35.000 Rule of law, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, they work.

00:05:40.000 Riots and anarchy and violence don't.

00:05:45.000 Biden doesn't want this to be on the issues.

00:05:49.000 Biden wants it to be a personality contest.

00:05:52.000 Biden wants it, do you like or dislike Donald J. Trump?

00:05:57.000 And I think they think personality contests, they win.

00:06:00.000 I think that's why Biden's hiding in the basement is he doesn't want to say anything to disrupt whether some voters might be upset at the latest tweet or whatever, what have you.

00:06:12.000 Look, this country is at a moment of crisis.

00:06:15.000 51 million Americans have lost their job.

00:06:17.000 Donald Trump wants to open up the economy.

00:06:19.000 Joe Biden wants to shut down the economy.

00:06:21.000 That's a debate we need to have.

00:06:23.000 Do you think that it maybe makes it more difficult, almost, because, you know, as opposed to, for example, let's say the candidate were Bernie Sanders, a self-avowed socialist, or like an AOC, that Joe Biden, you know, who's been in government for 48 years, kind of stands for nothing.

00:06:23.000 Right.

00:06:38.000 So it's almost like trying to grab an amoeba where he can sort of maintain any position he wants on the issues because he's often been on both sides of them.

00:06:47.000 It almost seems like it's tougher to grab a hold of him.

00:06:50.000 Well, look, I think that's a challenge and I don't know how much President Trump is prepared.

00:06:55.000 That's where preparing helps when you can come back with the substance and facts and record.

00:07:01.000 I think Trump will be quick on counter-punching But I don't know that he will necessarily have all the facts at his fingertips.

00:07:09.000 And you're right, Biden is going to try to backtrack and claim that he hasn't.

00:07:16.000 All right, here's a classic example.

00:07:19.000 On guns.

00:07:20.000 He's suddenly pretending he's more reasonable on guns rather than a radical.

00:07:27.000 Now, never mind you that Biden said he would put Beto O'Rourke in charge of gun policy, and when a reporter said, are you saying if Joe Biden were president, you're coming after our guns, his response was one word, bingo.

00:07:40.000 Right.

00:07:42.000 I hope when Joe tonight pretends that's not the case, I hope the President's prepared to come back with Biden's own record.

00:07:49.000 Right, and the same can be said for fracking, the same can be said for a lot, for some of the wars.

00:07:53.000 Yeah.

00:07:54.000 Let me ask you this, having been there sort of in the ring, as it were, with Donald Trump, and he was kind of an unknown entity, right, coming into the primaries, what surprised you most at your debates with Donald Trump?

00:08:05.000 Was there anything that you thought, oh, okay, maybe he has something, some arrow in the quiver here that I wasn't ready for?

00:08:12.000 Look, Trump is unpredictable.

00:08:15.000 Trump is instinctual.

00:08:18.000 Counterpunching is his greatest strength.

00:08:23.000 If you look at Trump's debate with Hillary Clinton, When he showed up at the debate with a bunch of the alleged victims of Bill Clinton's sexual assaults.

00:08:34.000 And I'm not laughing at sexual assaults, I'm just laughing at the move from the future President of the United States. 0.91

00:08:40.000 It was a holy crap moment, like the press, nobody could speak and it was right after the Billy Bush tape when Trump was, like, it was a rocky time. 0.97

00:08:52.000 And his instinct is to go on offense. 0.96

00:08:57.000 I expect to see him go after Hunter Biden corruption.

00:09:05.000 And it'll be interesting to see if Joe, how he handles that.

00:09:09.000 Yeah, that was going to be my question, is how personal we think it's going to get, but I think that just sort of remains to be seen, and hopefully, if nothing else, I think there's an opening here for Donald Trump to do the job that the media hasn't, because we've been watching CNN non-stop these last couple weeks, and they haven't covered it since we've been watching, and I know for a fact that ABC hasn't at all.

00:09:27.000 Let's go finally to this, because your book is now out, one vote away, about the Supreme Court.

00:09:32.000 That's going to be one of the topics tonight.

00:09:35.000 In the debate.

00:09:37.000 What do you expect that conversation to be, and how do you expect the media to misrepresent it?

00:09:42.000 Because this has been one of those issues that it's tough to attribute to incompetence what can be attributed to malice at this point.

00:09:52.000 Now the media are hardcore Democratic partisans.

00:09:55.000 I expect Joe Biden's talking point to be the talking point that Democrats are consistently following, which is to say that if Judge Barrett has confirmed, as Justice Barrett, that the court will strike down Obamacare and it'll take away protections for pre-existing conditions.

00:10:14.000 On the merits, that's nonsense, because every Republican agrees we're going to protect pre-existing conditions.

00:10:19.000 Right.

00:10:20.000 But more interestingly, Stephen, it reveals how defensive Democrats are on the court.

00:10:27.000 The fact that they want to twist it into a health care issue It means Joe Biden doesn't want to discuss free speech and the Supreme Court going after our free speech rights.

00:10:36.000 He doesn't want to discuss religious liberty.

00:10:38.000 He doesn't want to discuss the Second Amendment.

00:10:41.000 The book I have that came out today, One Vote Away, each chapter talks about a different constitutional liberty.

00:10:48.000 One on free speech, one on religious liberty, one on the Second Amendment, one on U.S.

00:10:52.000 sovereignty.

00:10:53.000 One on elections and democracy.

00:10:55.000 It goes into Bush vs. Gore, which I was part of the legal team that represented George W. Bush in Bush vs. Gore.

00:11:02.000 We could easily see a reprise of that this election cycle.

00:11:06.000 Right.

00:11:07.000 And what the book does is it tells the really inside war stories of what's going on at the court.

00:11:13.000 What are the behind the scenes of the major landmark cases, many of which I helped litigate.

00:11:20.000 And it's designed You don't have to be a lawyer to enjoy the book.

00:11:24.000 It's designed for anyone who cares about the Bill of Rights to explain, all right, what's this all about?

00:11:30.000 Why does it matter?

00:11:31.000 Why does it make a difference in my life?

00:11:34.000 It's interesting behind-the-scenes stories about the justices, about the cases, and what it illustrates is on issue after issue after issue, the court is 5-4 and we are one vote away.

00:11:46.000 We are one vote away From the court taking away our free speech rights, our religious liberty rights, our Second Amendment rights.

00:11:53.000 Right.

00:11:54.000 And I hope that the President makes some of that case tonight, because I think it is a powerful and compelling case.

00:12:00.000 And the Democrats are scared about it, which is why they immediately go to Obamacare instead.

00:12:06.000 Right, I think that obviously you can make that case better than the President, being a lawyer.

00:12:10.000 You're a lawyer yourself.

00:12:12.000 I will say this as a layman, when I try and research some of the landmark Supreme Court cases, often more definitive, and something that most Americans never hear about, are the dissenting opinions, right?

00:12:21.000 The ones that lost.

00:12:22.000 And to me the most concerning is Heller v. D.C.

00:12:25.000 when you look at the dissenting opinions.

00:12:26.000 They were basically saying, hold on a second, it wasn't Okay, 10 round capacity magazines.

00:12:30.000 It was a firearm case for people who don't know.

00:12:32.000 Go back and check it out.

00:12:33.000 The dissenting opinion said that private citizens have no actual constitutional right to own firearms whatsoever.

00:12:39.000 When it comes down to the legal line, how do we make the legal argument, it was either people have the right to own guns or they don't.

00:12:46.000 And that to me was bone chillingly scary and I think Americans would do well just to read up on the landmark cases.

00:12:53.000 Well, Stephen, you're exactly right.

00:12:55.000 Heller is one of the cases I talk about at length because I represented Texas and thirty other states in Heller.

00:13:01.000 I helped litigate Heller.

00:13:02.000 I argued the Companion case in the Court of Appeals.

00:13:06.000 And you're right.

00:13:07.000 The four dissenters, so Heller was 5-4.

00:13:09.000 The four dissenters, they weren't arguing that some gun control laws are sometimes okay.

00:13:16.000 Reasonable minds can disagree on that question.

00:13:18.000 Right.

00:13:19.000 The dissenters instead argued, and you put it exactly right, That the Second Amendment protects no individual right whatsoever, that no American has any right under the Second Amendment, which means the government could make it illegal, make it a crime for you or I to own a firearm, and the four dissenters said, no constitutional problem, knock yourself out,

00:13:43.000 And by the way, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden both pledged to appoint Supreme Court nominees who would overturn Heller and, in effect, erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights.

00:13:55.000 Actually, I have to fact check you.

00:13:57.000 They pledged to appoint more Supreme Court justices to overturn Heller versus D.C.

00:14:03.000 We didn't get it yet?

00:14:05.000 What's a couple more?

00:14:06.000 Let's make it a baker's dozen! 0.99

00:14:09.000 Then we can get Beto in there somewhere.

00:14:12.000 I think it's a very important point.

00:14:13.000 I would love to read this book.

00:14:15.000 I don't have it yet.

00:14:16.000 This is one that I desperately want to read.

00:14:19.000 And I know that I sound desperate and sad, but that's just who I am.

00:14:24.000 Senator Cruz.

00:14:25.000 Well, and Stephen, let me jump in on something.

00:14:27.000 You and I have talked before about how Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire guys, when they do their late night show, they use your cups as ashtrays, which I for one am offended with, although I did partake.

00:14:39.000 Naturally, yeah.

00:14:41.000 But, you know, I want this actually to be an opportunity for the battle of the right-wing libertarian heavyweights.

00:14:53.000 And so I'm doing Ben Shapiro's show this week, I'm doing your show this week, and you know what we're gonna do?

00:14:59.000 We're gonna keep a record of who moves more books.

00:15:05.000 Whether Louder With Crowder drives folks to go to Amazon or Barnes & Noble and buy the book, you can do it right now, one vote away, or whether Shapiro does.

00:15:13.000 And so we'll see.

00:15:16.000 I'm thinking you're going to take out Ben, but he's trying pretty hard, too.

00:15:20.000 Well, you know, I don't really think it's fair to call me and Ben a battle of heavyweights.

00:15:24.000 I mean, congratulations, Ben is the toughest guy at a 14-year-old slumber party.

00:15:30.000 So I don't want to look like a bully, but I appreciate you.

00:15:33.000 A creative way to promote your book with a little extra zing on the show.

00:15:37.000 And I do think he'll probably sell more in the Amazon bookstore physical crowd, and will do pretty well in the digital version.

00:15:43.000 But I love Ben, and his Tumblr is fine if you don't mind asbestos.

00:15:46.000 My final question for you, Senator Cruz, is you have to call it The media will obviously say Biden wins no matter what, but if you have to call objectively, who do you think comes out the victor tonight?

00:16:01.000 Trump, because Biden's out of touch.

00:16:03.000 The media will love him, but Biden is at the end of the day appealing to the media elites who already agree with him.

00:16:10.000 And if Trump stays focused on jobs, on safety, on security, on what the American people want, that's a winning message.

00:16:21.000 I agree with you.

00:16:21.000 That's a good point.

00:16:22.000 He's really sort of campaigning for the media and the media is not as relevant, legacy media, as they were in previous elections.

00:16:28.000 They're becoming less and less relevant.

00:16:31.000 Hopefully we're becoming more relevant because One Vote Away is a book to be read.

00:16:35.000 We appreciate it, Senator Cruz.

00:16:36.000 Be well.

00:16:36.000 Thanks for taking the time.

00:16:38.000 God bless.

00:16:40.000 I'm going to be a good boy.

00:16:42.000 I'm going to be a good boy. 0.98

00:16:44.000 You're a strange animal. 0.92

00:16:51.000 That's what I know. 1.00

00:16:55.000 I know. 1.00

00:16:56.000 You're a strange animal. 0.98

00:16:58.000 I come to follow. 0.99

00:17:00.000 I'm on your speed.

00:17:01.000 Ah!

00:17:02.000 We are out here.

00:17:03.000 And by the way, I'm not a fan of the sound of this.

00:17:05.000 I'm not a fan of the sound of this.

00:17:11.000 Ah!

00:17:14.000 We are out here.

00:17:15.000 And by the way, I heard you loud and clearly.

00:17:17.000 So just from that brick, I rushed and switched my shorts.

00:17:20.000 We got scissors see this but these were actually That's much better.

00:17:25.000 Yeah, we just grabbed some scissors, took care of it.

00:17:28.000 These shorts should be lower, but then when I sit... You're gonna mess it all up. 0.53

00:17:31.000 They become like Gerald's cycling shorts.

00:17:33.000 They do.

00:17:35.000 And we had a lot of people asking you to keep those on.

00:17:37.000 That's not why we're here folks.

00:17:37.000 Yeah, I know.

00:17:38.000 I didn't know that all of the 130,000 people watching wanted to see inside of me.

00:17:44.000 Oh, jeez.

00:17:45.000 The stream, by the way, is Crowder Debate Stream.

00:17:47.000 Please use that hashtag.

00:17:48.000 This is, I believe, the most watched conservative stream ever, which I'm very surprised.

00:17:51.000 That's fantastic. 0.97

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00:18:06.000 Quickly.

00:18:06.000 I said often.

00:18:07.000 I'm starting poorly.

00:18:07.000 It does happen.

00:18:08.000 Very poorly.

00:18:09.000 How are you, Gerald?

00:18:10.000 I'm doing fine.

00:18:10.000 Where's your fedora?

00:18:11.000 Oh, it's right here.

00:18:12.000 How do I put this on?

00:18:14.000 here how are you hello I'm here to moderate here to um what do you do yeah

00:18:14.000 That's terrible.

00:18:18.000 you just you just that's your outfit right you just decided that you're gonna

00:18:21.000 have a bowtie yeah that's it that's it and then we have audio wave quarter

00:18:25.000 black yeah it's gonna really I'm ready I'm ready for you was a really rough 0.69

00:18:29.000 era for black guys because you know they all want to have big hair but if you 1.00

00:18:34.000 were a bald black guy and you have to have mustache and a big hair and a 0.83

00:18:36.000 monk's cap that's pretty rough It's a lot of things.

00:18:38.000 You had to go for it anyway, so.

00:18:40.000 Now, is this this monitor or am I this bright and shiny?

00:18:42.000 No, no, no, it's just the monitor.

00:18:44.000 Alright, so, we are going to be watching this stream tonight, by the way, we want to be watching with you via CNN.

00:18:50.000 We're watching the Fox News debate via CNN just because, you know, they might have like little fact checks and did you know.

00:18:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:56.000 And, of course, nudie pictures of Brian Stelter and Don Lemon in a locker room with Geraldo Rivera.

00:19:00.000 Again.

00:19:01.000 Oh, that's right, the drinking game rules!

00:19:04.000 The drinking game rules tonight are, bring them up, anytime you hear a leading or unfair question to Donald Trump, anytime he drops a thug life moment, anytime China fake news is mentioned with Joe Biden, anytime he gets a softball question, has a dementia moment, talks tougher from the shoulders he says, or if he says, come on man, and you hear this ding, You take a drink, and finish your drink, you have to down it if Donald Trump mentions Hunter Biden.

00:19:30.000 Oh, that's gonna happen.

00:19:30.000 Really?

00:19:31.000 You think it's gonna happen?

00:19:33.000 Make sure you have water on standby.

00:19:35.000 I am very, very concerned, and as a legal disclaimer, these rules are dangerous.

00:19:40.000 Very.

00:19:42.000 And by dangerous, you mean fun.

00:19:45.000 Because it's Synonym Day! 0.92

00:19:46.000 Well, we're not drinking wine.

00:19:48.000 I mean, you can be, but... Well, you are, you know, because... Let's give a quick breakdown here.

00:19:55.000 We just had Ted Cruz, and I want to give you what... Let me go through this first.

00:19:59.000 The best-case scenario, what do you think?

00:20:00.000 Best-case scenario for Donald Trump?

00:20:02.000 Best-case scenario from Joe Biden?

00:20:04.000 What do you expect to see?

00:20:05.000 Alright so best case for Joe Biden is that he does not, I feel like the bar is so low he just doesn't stumble through his part of the talk.

00:20:13.000 He just is able to make points and he's able to move through it without falling down on his face and I really think that's the bar.

00:20:18.000 So nobody turn on the microwave!

00:20:20.000 Exactly.

00:20:20.000 Nobody turn on the microwave.

00:20:22.000 The plate in his noggin can't handle it.

00:20:24.000 I think there's going to be a Joe Biden catch man.

00:20:24.000 That's right.

00:20:26.000 It's one of nature's cruelest tricks.

00:20:28.000 He's going to run out and catch him.

00:20:30.000 And what do you think Donald Trump?

00:20:31.000 So Donald Trump, I think he's got to be a little bit more subtle than he normally is.

00:20:36.000 He can punch at Joe Biden, but if he starts to beat up on him and people start to feel sorry for him, I think that is the challenge when you're fighting someone with special needs.

00:20:44.000 And I say this as someone who has great experience fighting people with special needs.

00:20:47.000 Why would you do that?

00:20:48.000 Which really wasn't fair to me because of some neurological component.

00:20:51.000 They're insanely strong.

00:20:53.000 It goes in order.

00:20:54.000 Like a chimpanzee.

00:20:54.000 Old man strength.

00:20:55.000 So now you're the person that needs sympathy?

00:20:57.000 It goes old man strength.

00:20:59.000 Russian strength, special needs strength.

00:21:03.000 There are levels to this game, man.

00:21:07.000 And special needs, there's a reason that they're not allowed and sanctioned. 0.99

00:21:10.000 You've got to be aware.

00:21:11.000 So I was going to say, I think Gerald is wrong, and I think that the president should not lift up his foot off the gas when it comes to attacking

00:21:20.000 Biden because this is one of those moments where you've got to follow through

00:21:24.000 with all the rhetoric that we've been hearing everything we've been seeing from

00:21:28.000 the vice president over this entire last couple of months is that he's going to

00:21:32.000 easily sail through that's his own position and I just don't think it's the

00:21:36.000 case there's been a lot of fun a lot of fun poked at Joe Biden and some articles

00:21:40.000 written about how it's been a low we've lowered the bar so high so that's

00:21:43.000 gonna be jumping you know He's gonna lower it so high, you lower it low.

00:21:47.000 Lowered it so low that he's going to be able to jump over it.

00:21:50.000 This is my third language, so get out of here. 1.00

00:21:54.000 You and Gene Simmons, put your fedora on. 0.99

00:21:57.000 Trump has got to go hard.

00:21:58.000 He's got to go hard the whole time.

00:22:00.000 Also because I think it will be most entertaining for me, which is the point.

00:22:04.000 So here's what I think is the best case scenario for Donald Trump.

00:22:07.000 I think early on, Joe Biden has the balls to do what he's been doing this whole time on the campaign trail, where he calls Donald Trump's integrity into question. 0.97

00:22:13.000 This man isn't fit for office! 0.98

00:22:15.000 This man, he denigrates the highest office in the land!

00:22:19.000 He should continue doing, if he continues doing that, he opens up the opportunity for Donald Trump to go personal.

00:22:25.000 So what I'm hoping is he does that on the outset, Donald Trump goes personal, gets rid of all of this on the outset, does a Hunter Biden, Burisma, and then after that hopefully Wallace steps in and, alright guys, you boys, boys, boys, and allows him to get to policy where Donald Trump can also destroy Biden.

00:22:40.000 As far as what I see best case scenario for Biden, it's pretty tough.

00:22:45.000 He needs to avoid any and all personal attacks, I would say.

00:22:48.000 He should avoid it because that's Donald Trump's specialty.

00:22:52.000 And I think he needs to lay out a positive kind of future for America, which is tough to do when you've suckled at the government teat for 48 years and have nothing to show for it.

00:23:02.000 But I think that's kind of his best path to victory, is to stay out of the mud, and he needs to stay off policy, and if it comes to policy, Joe Biden does have a little bit of a Trump card, for lack of a better word, in that he is a moderate, he should play that up.

00:23:14.000 This is a debate now, this is something where it's a debate, he needs to play up being a moderate, because Democrats, they have to run as moderates to win elections, Republicans have to run as conservative as they can to win elections.

00:23:23.000 You see Donald Trump, who was a moderate, really kind of, if you look at early on before he became a Republican candidate, Then in the primaries and into the general election, he

00:23:31.000 increasingly became more conservative.

00:23:33.000 You saw the opposite with Hillary Clinton and you see Joe Biden saying that he was,

00:23:37.000 of course, going to ban fracking until he's for fracking.

00:23:40.000 I don't know where he's going to defend himself on TPP, on NAFTA, on the economy.

00:23:46.000 This is a really, really rough debate for Biden.

00:23:48.000 I will say this, too.

00:23:49.000 I think a lot of people are underestimating just how much they might be underestimating

00:23:56.000 So people are saying, hey, they're setting really low expectations for Biden.

00:23:59.000 I think that's true. 0.97

00:24:00.000 Biden just needs to not crap himself, right? 0.96

00:24:03.000 Biden needs to make it through without the crinkle in his Depends going away because you know it's moist. 0.98

00:24:10.000 But Donald Trump, the same thing with Donald Trump, people are expecting him to be such a bombastic jackass Because they've sort of developed their impression of Donald Trump through how they see him conveyed in the media.

00:24:22.000 This is one of those rare instances.

00:24:23.000 Keep in mind when Donald Trump started doing those press briefings, when COVID started, his approval rating went up the moment he started speaking directly to the American people.

00:24:32.000 This, unlike the town halls, should be one of those instances where a lot of people who are undecided or people who aren't just Democrats or just Republicans will hear from Donald Trump himself, and so he just needs to be a little more likable, just likable enough to give them a reason to pull the lever for the guy who doesn't have dementia and crap his pants every time you try and make a Hot Pocket.

00:24:53.000 It should be an easy choice.

00:24:54.000 And I definitely think that's a really good point, is that this has got to be the moment where Joe Biden really abandons BLM and Antifa and the other far left if he really wants to win this election.

00:25:04.000 Because so many folks are going, no, I'm not a fan of so many real Americans who may be undecided in this election.

00:25:11.000 They're saying, I'm not in favor of burning down cities, burning down businesses, and creating this kind of unsafe environment.

00:25:16.000 Is that Lindsay Lohan?

00:25:17.000 That's the other Trump.

00:25:17.000 Oh, never mind.

00:25:20.000 No, that's Donald Trump's daughter.

00:25:21.000 Watch your mouth.

00:25:22.000 No, I think he needs to abandon them like Biden's kids who never call.

00:25:26.000 Call your father!

00:25:28.000 And it can be really short because he won't remember.

00:25:30.000 You just go, you call him and 30 seconds in you go, well, dad, this has been a nice 45 minutes, but I've got to get going.

00:25:36.000 We have the costume contest.

00:25:36.000 Oh, I also forgot.

00:25:37.000 We have a costume contest for everyone out there watching right now.

00:25:41.000 We will be, I wouldn't say reading, but we'll be showing the costume contest winner and you get a lock of Gerald's hair.

00:25:46.000 Also, of course, do not forget.

00:25:48.000 Michigan, Friday, October 2nd, noon, in Lansing, the state capitol building.

00:25:53.000 I'll be right, hey Governor Whitmer, we're gonna be in your backyard going through all your private stuff, you better come out and pound me! 0.95

00:26:01.000 How does he get the base fired up?

00:26:03.000 Because nobody is excited about voting for Joe Biden.

00:26:04.000 to the exclusive Mug Club show where we will be doing chat with people live who are Mug

00:26:09.000 Club because we don't do super chat on YouTube because they don't pay nothing.

00:26:12.000 So, real quick question, how does he get the base fired up because nobody is excited about

00:26:17.000 voting for Joe Biden?

00:26:18.000 You guys are saying that he has to go more moderate.

00:26:20.000 That's where I think people have it wrong because they go, oh, Joe Biden, you know,

00:26:23.000 they're just really voting for him because he's not Trump, right?

00:26:26.000 That's what people, but the truth is there's no enthusiasm for Biden.

00:26:28.000 If people hated Trump that much, that enthusiasm would translate to the yang of the ying, right?

00:26:33.000 You know, it would sort of be a mirror image where you would think they'd be enthusiastic for anyone not named Trump, but that's not what we're seeing.

00:26:40.000 There's very little enthusiasm.

00:26:41.000 There's no enthusiasm for Biden.

00:26:42.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:26:43.000 How does he get there to be enthusiasm?

00:26:45.000 So you said he would have to go more to the center, right?

00:26:47.000 He would have to be a moderate and have to play that up.

00:26:49.000 That doesn't fire anybody up.

00:26:51.000 He can't get enthusiasm.

00:26:52.000 That's the thing.

00:26:53.000 That ship has sailed.

00:26:54.000 That ship has sailed with his IQ, with his function.

00:26:57.000 That ship has sailed likely with all of his pants.

00:27:00.000 All of his previous underpants that were pre-Depends, pre-adult diapers.

00:27:03.000 Which, by the way, I don't know if Depends is the only name brand.

00:27:06.000 It's kind of like Kleenex.

00:27:07.000 You mean tissue paper.

00:27:09.000 I mean, Joe Biden soils himself.

00:27:09.000 Q-tip.

00:27:11.000 So I don't want it to be lost on you.

00:27:12.000 We're like, what does he mean, Depends?

00:27:14.000 There's some other person who wants to sponsor the show.

00:27:16.000 There are many hard-working adult diaper manufacturers in the United States.

00:27:19.000 By the way, thank you.

00:27:21.000 That's probably a part of the United States-Mexico-Canada agreement, okay?

00:27:24.000 That's Donald Trump, okay?

00:27:25.000 That's his wheelhouse, so you should thank him.

00:27:27.000 But don't get mad at me.

00:27:28.000 You need a better branding play. 1.00

00:27:29.000 Depends has been kicking your sorry, undiapered ass for a long enough time. 1.00

00:27:34.000 I believe the debate is starting with Chris Wallace. 1.00

00:27:34.000 Let's go now. 1.00

00:27:38.000 I wonder what effect that will have.

00:27:39.000 Oh no, it's actually people talking.

00:27:40.000 One more thing, too.

00:27:41.000 There were demands made for tonight's debate.

00:27:42.000 Obviously the drug tests, or requests.

00:27:45.000 I think this is so telling.

00:27:46.000 Donald Trump wanted them both to submit themselves to drug tests.

00:27:49.000 He consented.

00:27:50.000 Biden declined.

00:27:51.000 He wanted them to do ear checks before the debate for electronic devices.

00:27:54.000 He consented.

00:27:55.000 Donald Trump said, I'll do it myself.

00:27:57.000 And Biden declined.

00:27:58.000 And then Biden wanted two breaks.

00:28:01.000 Yeah.

00:28:02.000 For 90 minutes.

00:28:03.000 One every 30 minutes.

00:28:04.000 And a snack.

00:28:07.000 He wanted some warm milk with honey, which I didn't even know was still a thing, but apparently he finds it soothing.

00:28:13.000 So again, when you're talking about the energy level, there are legitimate criticisms against Donald Trump.

00:28:18.000 There are legitimate criticisms of Joe Biden.

00:28:20.000 But this idea that Joe Biden has the energy, or that Donald Trump doesn't, they're both old It's not even comparable.

00:28:26.000 It's not even comparable.

00:28:27.000 Donald Trump has more energy than most 20-year-olds and the fact that he was willing to... I think it's brilliant.

00:28:32.000 He's getting in his head with the drug test, with the device in the ear.

00:28:35.000 I'm still not convinced.

00:28:36.000 I am not convinced that they aren't going to bring out just like one of those Minority Report spiders with a monitor of Biden's face like a mojo.

00:28:44.000 That's what I think they might be doing here.

00:28:46.000 I won't believe it until I see it.

00:28:48.000 They're gonna run an aide out there and be like, oh he fell down and broke his hip.

00:28:51.000 Well, he tested positive for COVID just before the show, and so he doesn't want to get the president sick out of respect.

00:28:56.000 They're going to send out the same person who Hillary trotted out for a concession speech. 1.00

00:29:00.000 I mean, look, I called it last time when we were into the last stream.

00:29:02.000 I said, there's no question in my mind that Trump is going to pull it down all and pull some evidence out of his pocket.

00:29:08.000 But it's going to be something that drives Joe Biden over the edge.

00:29:12.000 By the way, it might be a PG-13 rating tonight because people could get mad in their drinking games.

00:29:15.000 And we were talking about the New York Trump tax returns.

00:29:17.000 And we talked about the tax code.

00:29:19.000 And of course, people who say he hasn't paid taxes.

00:29:21.000 Remember there was a scandal from Rachel Maddow that he only paid $38 million.

00:29:23.000 Oh, hold on!

00:29:24.000 They're starting!

00:29:25.000 There he is.

00:29:27.000 COVID has not been kind to him.

00:29:28.000 He didn't get it.

00:29:30.000 Does he know he's on camera?

00:29:31.000 I think he's getting the message Joe Biden is done.

00:29:34.000 Do we have any sound guy?

00:29:35.000 There's nothing.

00:29:37.000 Is that coming from the stream?

00:29:37.000 We have no sound?

00:29:39.000 I think they're paused.

00:29:40.000 Oh yeah, you can hear him breathe.

00:29:43.000 Well now I don't hear him.

00:29:44.000 This is them.

00:29:45.000 This is them.

00:29:45.000 This isn't us.

00:29:46.000 We're usually the ones who show up.

00:29:47.000 Wow, think about this.

00:29:48.000 We have more viewers than CNN and a better audio guy.

00:29:52.000 I don't give raises.

00:29:53.000 I welcome you to the first of the 20 presidential debates between President Donald J. Trump

00:29:53.000 I'm a Republican.

00:30:00.000 and former Vice President Joe Biden.

00:30:04.000 This debate is sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

00:30:07.000 The Commission has designed the format, six roughly 15-minute segments, with two-minute answers from each candidate to the first question, then open discussion for the rest of each segment.

00:30:20.000 Both campaigns have agreed to these rules.

00:30:23.000 For the record, I decided the topics and the questions in each topic.

00:30:29.000 I can assure you, none of the questions has been shared with the Commission or the two candidates.

00:30:34.000 This debate is being conducted under health and safety protocols designed by the Cleveland Clinic, which is serving as the health security advisor to the Commission for all four debates.

00:30:46.000 As a precaution, both campaigns have agreed that candidates will not shake hands at the beginning of tonight's debate.

00:30:57.000 No cheers, no boos or other interruptions so we, and more importantly you, can focus on what the candidates have to say.

00:31:05.000 No noise except right now as we welcome the Republican nominee, President Trump,

00:31:11.000 and the Democratic nominee, Vice President Biden.

00:31:14.000 He said no clapping!

00:31:17.000 They're already putting Joe at a disadvantage.

00:31:25.000 Look at Joe Biden doing his fists, his fisticuffs.

00:31:28.000 He's showing you his veiny liver spotted knuckles. 0.74

00:31:32.000 If he were to try and throw a punch at your head, you would just need to duck your skull and his knuckles would have... He came out.

00:31:39.000 He came out.

00:31:40.000 Let's get going.

00:31:41.000 First subject is the Supreme Court.

00:31:44.000 President Trump, you nominated Amy Coney Barrett over the weekend to succeed the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the court. 0.94

00:31:53.000 You say the Constitution is clear about your obligation and the Senate's to consider a nominee to the court.

00:32:01.000 Vice President Biden, you say that this is an effort by the President and Republicans to jam through on an appointment and what you call an abuse of power.

00:32:10.000 My first question to both of you tonight, why are you right in the argument you make, and your opponent wrong, and where do you think a Justice Barrett would take the court?

00:32:23.000 President Trump, in this first segment, you go first.

00:32:26.000 Thank you very much, Chris.

00:32:26.000 Two minutes.

00:32:28.000 I will tell you very simply, we won the election.

00:32:30.000 Elections have consequences.

00:32:31.000 We have the Senate.

00:32:31.000 We have the White House.

00:32:33.000 And we have a phenomenal nominee, respected by all.

00:32:35.000 Top, top academic.

00:32:36.000 nine out of ten times, you know, shared government, Republican and Senate.

00:32:36.000 Gooding every way.

00:32:40.000 It was confirmed. There was one exception and it ended up being a resignation.

00:32:44.000 In fact, some of her biggest endorsers are very liberal people from Notre Dame and other places.

00:32:52.000 So I think she's going to be fantastic.

00:32:54.000 We have plenty of time, even if we did it after the election itself.

00:32:58.000 I have a lot of time after the election, as you know.

00:33:01.000 So I think that she will be outstanding.

00:33:03.000 She's going to be as good as anybody that has served on that court. 0.52

00:33:09.000 We have a professor at Notre Dame, highly respected by all, said she's the single greatest student he's ever had.

00:33:15.000 He's been a professor for a long time at a great school.

00:33:18.000 And, uh, we just, uh, we won the election, and therefore we have the right to choose her, and very few people knowingly would say otherwise.

00:33:26.000 And by the way, the Democrats, they wouldn't even think about not doing it.

00:33:29.000 If they had, the only difference is they're trying to do it faster.

00:33:32.000 There's no way they would give it up.

00:33:34.000 They had Merrick Garland, but the problem is they didn't have the election, so they were stopped.

00:33:40.000 And probably that would happen in the U.S.

00:33:42.000 It definitely would happen in the U.S.

00:33:42.000 also.

00:33:44.000 So we won the election, and we have the right to do it, Chris.

00:33:48.000 President Trump, thank you.

00:33:50.000 Same question to you, Vice President Biden.

00:33:52.000 You have two minutes.

00:33:54.000 Well, first of all, thank you for doing this and looking forward to this, Mr. President.

00:34:00.000 I, the American people, have a right to have a say in who the Supreme Court nominee is.

00:34:06.000 And that say occurs when they vote for United States Senators and when they vote for the President of the United States.

00:34:13.000 They did.

00:34:14.000 They're not going to get that chance now because we're in the middle of an election already.

00:34:17.000 Well, they did.

00:34:17.000 They voted for the President and they voted for the same party and added seats in the last three midterms for Republicans.

00:34:22.000 That's the whole point.

00:34:23.000 I thought it was four years.

00:34:23.000 That's a term.

00:34:24.000 It should happen. 0.91

00:34:25.000 I didn't think it was like almost four years.

00:34:26.000 We should wait and see what the outcome of this election is.

00:34:28.000 You can't count that high because you can only count on his right hand.

00:34:30.000 The only way the American people get to a discrepancy in their view is by who they elect as President and who they elect as Vice President.

00:34:37.000 Now, what's at stake here is the President's made it clear he wants to get rid of the Affordable Care Act.

00:34:43.000 He's been running on that, he ran on that, and he's been governing on that.

00:34:47.000 He's in the Supreme Court right now trying to get rid of...

00:34:51.000 So what he's saying is that this woman of the law, revered by both sides, won't just follow the law. 0.98

00:34:58.000 Keep in mind, the Affordable Care Act insurance premiums rose 105% in 39 states, deductibles higher than 20% in some brackets.

00:35:08.000 This far outpaces the average cost, so you can like the Affordable Care Act in theory, But it's well past time to deconstruct it.

00:35:15.000 It hasn't worked.

00:35:16.000 It's hurt everybody.

00:35:17.000 All income brackets.

00:35:18.000 We know it, verifiably.

00:35:20.000 Economists will tell you that now.

00:35:21.000 That's not in dispute.

00:35:22.000 It's only an ideological win that he wants to preserve.

00:35:40.000 Nothing about this is focused on our qualifications or the actual legality of the procedure.

00:35:45.000 It's all about some hypothetical decision that might be made down the road, but he's not even addressing the law itself.

00:35:51.000 He's just saying, fear, fear, fear, you might not get everything you want from the government. 0.98

00:35:55.000 You might not get to keep your shitty, more expensive healthcare by 105% that I see I sat by and nodded while the first black president, you 0.98

00:36:03.000 know, snacked it into law. 0.98

00:36:04.000 And I, you know, I said, put my name on there.

00:36:07.000 Okay, Justice Ginsburg said very powerfully, very strongly, at some point, 10 years ago

00:36:14.000 or so, she said a president and the Senate is elected for a period of time.

00:36:19.000 But a president's elected for four years.

00:36:21.000 We're not elected for three years.

00:36:22.000 I'm not elected for three years.

00:36:24.000 So we have the Senate.

00:36:25.000 We have a president.

00:36:27.000 During that period of time, during that period of time, we have an opening.

00:36:32.000 I'm not elected for three years.

00:36:34.000 I'm elected for four years.

00:36:35.000 And the hundred million people.

00:36:38.000 The 100 million people is totally wrong.

00:36:39.000 I don't know where you got that number.

00:36:41.000 The bigger problem that you have is that you're going to extinguish 180 million people with their private health care.

00:36:48.000 That they're very happy with.

00:36:49.000 That's simply not true.

00:36:50.000 Well, you're certainly going to socialists.

00:36:52.000 You're going to socialists.

00:36:54.000 Gentlemen, we're now into open discussion.

00:36:56.000 Open discussion.

00:36:57.000 Yes, I agree.

00:36:58.000 Go ahead, Vice President.

00:36:59.000 He hates what he says.

00:37:00.000 You know what he said about pre-existing conditions?

00:37:04.000 That's the linchpin of their argument.

00:37:08.000 And Trump has already said, I have a plan for that.

00:37:11.000 We're going to make sure we cover that.

00:37:13.000 of my colleagues trying to win the nomination that I won.

00:37:15.000 Sorry, 220%.

00:37:16.000 That's doubling.

00:37:17.000 I only added 5%.

00:37:18.000 You know what he said about pre-existing conditions?

00:37:21.000 That's the linchpin of their argument.

00:37:22.000 And Trump has already said, I have a plan for that.

00:37:24.000 We're going to make sure we cover that.

00:37:25.000 And it'll be cheaper and better.

00:37:26.000 Does it include rate kits like Tara Reid there, Biden?

00:37:29.000 Let's go.

00:37:30.000 Right now, I am the Democratic Party.

00:37:31.000 And they're going to dominate you, Joe.

00:37:34.000 You know that.

00:37:35.000 I am the Democratic Party right now.

00:37:36.000 The platform of the Democratic Party is what I, in fact, approved of.

00:37:42.000 what I approved of.

00:37:43.000 Here's the deal.

00:37:44.000 The deal is that it's going to wipe out previous institutions.

00:37:46.000 By the way, the 200,000 people that have died on his watch, how many of those have survived?

00:37:49.000 in a Kamala Harris administration.

00:37:51.000 She hasn't even let you assume room temperature yet, Joe.

00:37:54.000 He pivoted to COVID.

00:37:56.000 He said 200 million.

00:37:57.000 Well, there's 7 million people that have contracted COVID.

00:38:00.000 What does it mean for them going forward if you strike down the Affordable Care Act?

00:38:04.000 Joe, you've had 308,000 military people dying because you couldn't provide them proper health

00:38:10.000 care in the military.

00:38:11.000 So don't tell me...

00:38:12.000 That's a tragedy, that's a disaster, Obama.

00:38:13.000 That is a drinking moment.

00:38:14.000 When they do the health care debate, the VA should be a huge part of it. 1.00

00:38:19.000 You didn't want me to ban China, which was heavily infected.

00:38:22.000 You didn't want me to ban Europe, which was heavily infected.

00:38:26.000 You would have been much later, Joe.

00:38:28.000 Much later.

00:38:29.000 You're talking about 2 million people.

00:38:35.000 Where Joe Biden, during COVID, because they have the timeline I went through last time as to what Donald Trump did.

00:38:40.000 You know, January 31st, they announced the Chinese travel restrictions.

00:38:44.000 February 24th, Pelosi was saying you should flock to Chinatown.

00:38:46.000 February 29th, they had a Level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy, South Korea, Europe.

00:38:51.000 And Joe Biden was nowhere to be seen.

00:38:55.000 March 15th, Then he was gone.

00:38:58.000 He appeared on March 15th, and then his own advisor, Simone Sanders, went on CNN and said that the CDC said it was safe for 50 or more people to gather.

00:39:07.000 He was gone.

00:39:09.000 He had nothing to say for months.

00:39:11.000 Right into the basement.

00:39:13.000 On health care, and then we'll come back to Roe v. Wade.

00:39:16.000 All right.

00:39:17.000 Mr. President, the Supreme Court will hear a case a week after the election in which the Trump administration, along with 18 state attorneys general, are seeking to overturn Obamacare, to end Obamacare.

00:39:31.000 You have spent the last... Because they want to give good health care.

00:39:34.000 If I may ask my question, sir.

00:39:36.000 Good health care.

00:39:36.000 You should know, you've outpaced your premiums by 9,000%.

00:39:40.000 What's my deductible?

00:39:40.000 It doesn't matter as long as it's less than 200 grand per quarter.

00:39:42.000 but you have never in these four years What's my deductible?

00:39:44.000 Doesn't matter as long as it's less than 200 grand per quarter

00:39:48.000 Obamacare Of course I have

00:39:50.000 Well, I'll give you an update I'll get rid of the individual mandate, which is unthinkable.

00:39:57.000 I didn't ask, sir.

00:39:58.000 You're debating him, not me.

00:39:59.000 Let me ask my question.

00:40:00.000 of Obama. Chris, that was the worst part of Obama. Well, I'll ask Joe. The individual

00:40:06.000 mandate was the most unpopular aspect.

00:40:11.000 They froze already.

00:40:13.000 CNN stream froze already.

00:40:15.000 I think he's gotta be careful right now.

00:40:16.000 I think he has to be careful.

00:40:17.000 Donald Trump has to be careful.

00:40:18.000 He needs to not interrupt the moderator right now.

00:40:22.000 Again, this is what people are waiting for him to do.

00:40:24.000 He should just wait for his spot, pick his spot, once he gets a question and he can answer.

00:40:29.000 Because Joe Biden is not doing very well. 0.55

00:40:31.000 He sounds really sick.

00:40:32.000 Yeah, he's got a raspy voice.

00:40:32.000 Is it just me?

00:40:34.000 It sounds very gravely.

00:40:35.000 It's lower, it's slower, and it seems as though he's trying to speak in a way that prevents

00:40:40.000 it from cracking, right?

00:40:42.000 Like he's got some, you know, something going on, an upper respiratory type deal.

00:40:46.000 But I'm right with you there.

00:40:47.000 I think that the president there is flirting with a little bit of, you know, he's got all

00:40:51.000 this information that he wants to present, but it's not just that you have the information,

00:40:55.000 it's whether or not you can actually present it well, and going after the moderator is

00:40:59.000 not the way.

00:41:00.000 We're checking the chat to make sure the audio is loud enough, and people do watch along

00:41:08.000 with us because CNN has a pretty faulty digital stream, and of course I know we're going to

00:41:15.000 We want you to hear the context but hopefully provide some fact-checking.

00:41:18.000 What we're doing with prescription drug prices, we're going to allow our governors now to go to other countries to buy drugs because they pay just a tiny fraction of the price.

00:41:30.000 You'll be happy, I'm about to pick up on one of your points to ask the Vice President, which is, he points out that you would like to add a public option to Obamacare.

00:41:40.000 And the argument that he makes, that other Republicans make, is that that is going to end private insurance.

00:41:48.000 It will end private insurance and create a government takeover of health care.

00:41:56.000 It does not.

00:41:57.000 It's only for those people who are so poor they qualify for Medicaid.

00:42:01.000 They can get that free in most states except governors who want to deny people who are poor Medicaid.

00:42:08.000 Well actually doctors do it.

00:42:09.000 One in three doctors now don't want to take Medicaid.

00:42:15.000 The vast majority of the American people would still not be in that option, number one.

00:42:21.000 So you agree with Bernie Sanders that's far left on the manifesto, we call it, and that gives you socialized medicine.

00:42:28.000 Look, hey, I'm not going to listen to him.

00:42:30.000 The fact of the matter is, I beat Bernie Sanders.

00:42:33.000 Not by much.

00:42:34.000 I beat him a whole hell of a lot.

00:42:36.000 I don't think he's going to play well for Trump.

00:42:39.000 But I'm getting a kick out of it.

00:42:42.000 He needs to let him hang himself in his own words.

00:42:45.000 I got very lucky tonight as well.

00:42:47.000 And tonight I'm going to make sure, because here's the deal.

00:42:50.000 Here's the deal.

00:42:51.000 The fact is that everything he's saying so far is simply a lie.

00:42:55.000 I'm not here to call out his lies. 1.00

00:42:56.000 Everybody knows he's a liar. 1.00

00:42:57.000 But you agree he has the eyes of a mako shark. 0.99

00:43:01.000 I want to make sure.

00:43:02.000 You are the last in your class, not the first in your class.

00:43:05.000 I want to make sure.

00:43:06.000 Mr. President, can you let him finish, sir?

00:43:07.000 No, he doesn't know how to do that.

00:43:09.000 He has- You'd be surprised.

00:43:11.000 You pick- You'd be surprised.

00:43:12.000 The wrong guy, the wrong night, at the wrong time.

00:43:14.000 Listen, do you agree with Bernie Sanders- Donald Trump, this is the wrong strategy for you.

00:43:18.000 This is not a good strategy for Donald Trump.

00:43:20.000 I'm just sorry, folks, I know you've got to be objective.

00:43:23.000 This is an opportunity that Donald Trump has to reach viewers who didn't tune into the town hall.

00:43:29.000 This isn't going to play well.

00:43:30.000 He needs to find enough room to answer so that he can rebut it.

00:43:33.000 It's called giving enough rope.

00:43:36.000 Socialized medicine.

00:43:37.000 I'll tell you what, he is not for any help for people needing healthcare.

00:43:37.000 Mr. President.

00:43:45.000 Because he in fact already has cost 10 million people their healthcare that they had from their employers because of his recession.

00:43:53.000 Number one.

00:43:54.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:43:56.000 Recession! 0.96

00:43:57.000 He had unemployment at 3.5% before coronavirus in your blue state lockdown, dummy.

00:44:04.000 Barack Obama had unemployment over 9% for over a year into the front end of his presidency.

00:44:10.000 Labor force participation, right, actually increased by the most significant amount ever in any single week in 2019.

00:44:18.000 Labor force participation was an all-time low with Barack Obama.

00:44:21.000 Well, they just thought, well, you know, it's because boomers are getting out of the workforce.

00:44:23.000 We're never going to have the labor force participation rate come back. 0.87

00:44:26.000 And then we realized, oh, no way.

00:44:27.000 Shitty president. 0.99

00:44:28.000 Whoops. 0.98

00:44:29.000 We guarantee pre-existing conditions, but took away the individual mandate.

00:44:34.000 Listen, this is the way it is.

00:44:35.000 And that destroyed, they shouldn't even call it a lawmaker.

00:44:39.000 Then I had a choice to make.

00:44:40.000 Do I let my people run it really well?

00:44:43.000 Or badly.

00:44:44.000 If I run it badly, they'll probably blame him, but they'll blame me.

00:44:46.000 But more importantly, I want to help people, okay?

00:44:49.000 I said, you've got to run it so well.

00:44:50.000 And I just had a meeting with them.

00:44:52.000 They said, the problem is, no matter how well you run Obamacare, it's a disaster.

00:44:57.000 It's too expensive, premiums are too high, and it doesn't work.

00:45:01.000 So we do want to get rid of it.

00:45:04.000 Chris, we want to get rid of it.

00:45:05.000 I understand it, sir, but I have to give you roughly equal time.

00:45:08.000 Please let the Vice President talk.

00:45:12.000 He has no plan for healthcare.

00:45:16.000 He sends out wishful thinking.

00:45:19.000 He has executive orders that have no power.

00:45:21.000 He hasn't lowered drug costs for anybody.

00:45:23.000 He's been promising a healthcare plan since he got elected.

00:45:26.000 He has none, like almost everything else he talks about.

00:45:30.000 He does not have a plan.

00:45:32.000 Well, you know, for a man who doesn't have a plan, to get the unemployment rate to less than half, to get the average wage growth to more than double or triple, depending on the numbers you use compared to Barack Obama, to get the black unemployment rate to record low, to get the labor force participation rate going gangbusters to record... not... recognized within a singular period. 0.96

00:45:53.000 For a guy without a plan, I guess in that case, sign me up for a guy without a plan as opposed to a shitty one.

00:46:00.000 But in fact it wasn't brought up by the president, it was brought up by some of your Democratic

00:46:00.000 It seems to be working to me.

00:46:05.000 colleagues in the Congress.

00:46:07.000 So my question to you is, you have refused in the past to talk about it.

00:46:10.000 Are you willing to tell the American people tonight whether or not you will support either

00:46:15.000 ending the filibuster or packing the court?

00:46:18.000 Whatever position I take on that, that'll become the issue.

00:46:20.000 The issue is the American people should speak.

00:46:23.000 You should go out and vote.

00:46:24.000 No, you should speak! 1.00

00:46:25.000 You have the microphone ass hat, you demented old circus monkey! 0.99

00:46:29.000 Whatever I respond, if I actually provide a clear answer to your question, if I actually take a position like a guy who sacked off and dropped a pair, you know, it might be a problem for me. 0.98

00:46:40.000 I'm trying to shift in really unnoticed, kind of like, you know, with a fire drill, where people don't know that I haven't gone out single file, I'm no longer with my homeroom class.

00:46:48.000 This is why I sort of wedge myself in there, go unnoticed.

00:46:50.000 If I say whether I support court packing or not, well, you know, Kamala Harris is just gonna be really upset, and I don't need any more pegging! 0.92

00:46:59.000 The people understand you.

00:47:01.000 47 years you've done nothing.

00:47:02.000 They understand.

00:47:03.000 Alright.

00:47:04.000 The second subject is COVID-19.

00:47:06.000 That is true.

00:47:08.000 47, I thought it was 48 years.

00:47:09.000 He's had a plan for 47 years.

00:47:10.000 He's had the same bad plan.

00:47:12.000 We have had more than 7 million cases of coronavirus in the United States and more than 200,000 people have died.

00:47:22.000 After we produce a vaccine, experts say that it could be months, or even years, before we come back to anything approaching normal.

00:47:32.000 That's not true.

00:47:33.000 My question for both of you is based on what you have said and done so far,

00:47:39.000 and what you have said will do starting in 2021, why should the American people trust you,

00:47:45.000 rather than your opponent?

00:47:48.000 You look lovely.

00:47:49.000 The camera work is shoddy.

00:47:51.000 It's not your fault.

00:47:52.000 The question goes to you first, sir.

00:47:55.000 Two minutes, uninterrupted.

00:47:57.000 200,000 dead.

00:47:57.000 Good luck.

00:48:00.000 As you said, over 7 million infected in the United States.

00:48:04.000 We in fact have 5% or 4% of the world's population.

00:48:09.000 20% of the deaths.

00:48:11.000 40,000 people a day.

00:48:13.000 A huge portion is going to be attributed directly to New York, New Jersey, and by the way, Michigan.

00:48:18.000 Michigan has the worst COVID nursing home policy.

00:48:21.000 And there's some information that you may not have, which we'll go over.

00:48:24.000 At the State Capitol in Lansing on October 2nd, noon.

00:48:27.000 That's going to be a big one.

00:48:28.000 So, Michigan is possibly one of the worst states, but if you eliminate the nursing home policies, really you eliminate a huge portion, a majority of the deaths.

00:48:37.000 So much better.

00:48:38.000 He knew it was a deadly disease.

00:48:40.000 What did he do?

00:48:41.000 He said he didn't tell us or give people a warning of it because he didn't want to panic.

00:48:48.000 All right, I got to go through this timeline again with the COVID.

00:48:51.000 Okay, let me make sure I get this right just so I don't forget it because I don't want to be fact

00:48:55.000 checked. You guys can keep it up there until I get through the timeline.

00:48:59.000 You should be able to go to Wuhan and determine for themselves how dangerous this was.

00:49:04.000 He did not even ask Xi to do that.

00:49:06.000 He told us what a great job Xi was doing.

00:49:09.000 He said we owe him a debt of gratitude for being so transparent with us.

00:49:14.000 And what did he do then?

00:49:16.000 As late as March, your buddies, de Blasio and Nancy Pelosi, were telling people to go eat dumplings in Chinatown and go to movie theaters.

00:49:25.000 March 2nd!

00:49:27.000 Long after he banned travel from China.

00:49:30.000 Yeah, and we knew a lot more on March 2nd than we did.

00:49:32.000 And declared it a national emergency.

00:49:34.000 In order to be able to go out and get people the help they need to keep their businesses open, open schools that cost a lot of money, you should get out of your bunker and get out of the non-COVID. 0.98

00:49:44.000 He did nothing!

00:49:45.000 He was completely quiet.

00:49:46.000 He did nothing other than criticize Donald Trump.

00:49:48.000 He did nothing at any point.

00:49:49.000 That's not what a leader does, by the way.

00:49:50.000 You don't just sit on the sidelines and just throw hot shots at a guy.

00:49:53.000 Here's what we should have been doing.

00:49:54.000 Wait, wait, you have two minutes left.

00:49:55.000 They had a plan.

00:49:56.000 None of them have.

00:49:57.000 If we would have listened to you, the country would have been left wide open.

00:50:01.000 Millions of people would have died, not 200,000.

00:50:04.000 And one person is too much.

00:50:05.000 It's China's fault. 1.00

00:50:06.000 It should have never happened.

00:50:08.000 They stopped it from going in, but it was China's fault. 1.00

00:50:10.000 And by the way, when you talk about numbers, you don't know how many people died in China.

00:50:14.000 You don't know how many people died in Russia.

00:50:16.000 You don't know how many people died in India.

00:50:18.000 I'm going to be a coronavirus ad that keeps saying China.

00:50:21.000 But if you look at what we've done.

00:50:22.000 I closed it and you said he's xenophobic. 0.96

00:50:25.000 He's a racist and he's xenophobic.

00:50:27.000 Because you didn't think I should have closed our country. 0.99

00:50:29.000 Wait a minute.

00:50:30.000 You didn't think we should have closed our country because you thought it was too.

00:50:34.000 It was terrible.

00:50:35.000 You wouldn't have closed it for another two months by my doing it early.

00:50:39.000 In fact, Dr. Fauci said President Trump saved thousands of lives.

00:50:43.000 Many of you, a Democrat governor said.

00:50:46.000 President Trump did a phenomenal job.

00:50:48.000 We worked with the governor.

00:50:50.000 Go take a look.

00:50:52.000 The governor said I did a phenomenal job.

00:50:54.000 Most of them said that.

00:50:56.000 In fact, people that would not be necessarily on my side said that.

00:51:00.000 President Trump did a phenomenal job.

00:51:02.000 We did.

00:51:04.000 We got the gowns. We got the masks.

00:51:06.000 We made the ventilators.

00:51:08.000 You wouldn't have made ventilators.

00:51:10.000 And now we're weeks away from a vaccine.

00:51:12.000 We're doing therapeutics already.

00:51:14.000 Fewer people are dying.

00:51:16.000 Who was in it?

00:51:17.000 It was Vice Obama.

00:51:18.000 They walked in and the only thing left was a crumb too small for a mouse.

00:51:22.000 But it was a giant storage unit, though.

00:51:23.000 Small, small press.

00:51:23.000 You can do a lot with that.

00:51:24.000 Well, I feel like Joe Biden is looking out in the back to get baseball signs.

00:51:26.000 press, they give you a bad press because that's the way it is unfortunately.

00:51:29.000 But let me just tell you something, I don't care, I've gotten used to it, but I'll tell

00:51:32.000 you Joe, you could never have done the job that we did.

00:51:34.000 You don't have it in your blood.

00:51:35.000 You could have never done that.

00:51:36.000 You don't have it in your blood.

00:51:37.000 You could have never done that.

00:51:38.000 You don't have it in your blood.

00:51:39.000 You could have never done that.

00:51:40.000 You don't have it in your blood.

00:51:41.000 You could have never done that.

00:51:42.000 You don't have it in your blood.

00:51:43.000 You could have never done that.

00:51:44.000 You don't have it in your blood.

00:51:46.000 Your own chief of staff said you were a disaster.

00:51:49.000 14,000 people died, not 200,000.

00:51:50.000 There was no economic recession.

00:51:53.000 You made a point, let him answer it.

00:51:54.000 There was no...

00:51:55.000 You made a point, let him answer it.

00:51:57.000 And there was no one, there was no...

00:51:58.000 We didn't shut down the economy.

00:52:00.000 This is his economy.

00:52:01.000 What?

00:52:02.000 Your party did shut down the economy!

00:52:05.000 It is the blue states that have been shut down.

00:52:07.000 By the way, unemployment in New York is up as high as 40%.

00:52:10.000 We have that as an overlay.

00:52:12.000 We'll have all of this available on the website afterwards, but all of this can be confirmed.

00:52:16.000 The states that have had the most severe lockdowns I've had the worst virus spread.

00:52:19.000 There is no correlation between lockdowns working.

00:52:22.000 And I don't want to claim the opposite.

00:52:24.000 If you don't have a lockdown, it works.

00:52:25.000 But certainly, if you look at Texas and Florida, it's a third that of states like New York.

00:52:29.000 It's less than half that of states like Michigan.

00:52:32.000 And then if you look at the unemployment, it's double, triple, quadruple in the blue states.

00:52:36.000 They have higher deaths, they have higher mortality, and they have higher unemployment.

00:52:40.000 When he says, we didn't shut down the economy, You tried to shut it down now.

00:52:44.000 I get it with swine flu, because swine flu wasn't nearly as deadly, but we can't let that go unchecked.

00:52:49.000 Okay, we've got to go back.

00:52:52.000 Gentlemen, let me move on to questions about the future, because you both have touched on two of the questions I'm going to ask.

00:53:01.000 Now, I'm pretty sure swine flu was somewhere around 14,000.

00:53:04.000 But it was also tough because they also weren't measuring everyone who had the flu as a swine flu.

00:53:10.000 Which is what's happening with COVID.

00:53:11.000 But if Reg finds that, you can let us know.

00:53:13.000 Dang it.

00:53:13.000 Dr. Redfield said it would be summer before the vaccine would become generally available

00:53:19.000 to the public.

00:53:20.000 Well if Reg finds that you can let us know.

00:53:21.000 I think that sounds about right.

00:53:22.000 You said that he was confused and mistaken.

00:53:24.000 Those were your two words.

00:53:26.000 But Dr. Slowy, the head of your operation Warp Speed, has said exactly the same thing.

00:53:32.000 Are they both wrong?

00:53:32.000 Well, I've spoken to the companies, and we can have it a lot sooner.

00:53:35.000 It's a very political thing, because people like this would rather make it political than save lives.

00:53:41.000 It is a very political thing.

00:53:42.000 I've spoken to Pfizer... Who was it that said they wouldn't trust the vaccine before the election?

00:53:47.000 Moderna, Johnson & Johnson... Was it Biden or was it Newsom?

00:53:50.000 They can go faster than that by a lot.

00:53:52.000 Yeah, a couple folks.

00:53:53.000 There were a couple people who said they wouldn't trust the vaccine solely because it would happen before the election.

00:53:57.000 It might have been Kamala Harris, Newsom, or Joe Biden.

00:53:59.000 Except the drug companies came out and said, we will likely have something in October.

00:54:03.000 Well, you're supposed to trust Big Pharma when they say that we should shut down the economy, but not trust them when it actually happens to be in their wheelhouse developing drugs.

00:54:14.000 When it comes to the economy, trust the pharmacists.

00:54:16.000 When it comes to pharmacology, trust Joe Biden.

00:54:19.000 it right away. We have the military all set up logistically.

00:54:22.000 They're all set up. We have our military that delivers soldiers and they can do 200,000

00:54:27.000 a day. They're going to be delivering the rest.

00:54:29.000 This is the same man who told you by Easter this would be gone away. By the warm weather,

00:54:35.000 it'd be gone. Iraq is like a miracle. 1.00

00:54:37.000 Reg said it was Kamala Harris.

00:54:39.000 It was Kamala Harris.

00:54:40.000 That would take care of it.

00:54:41.000 This is the same man.

00:54:42.000 That was said sarcastically.

00:54:43.000 You know that.

00:54:44.000 That was said sarcastically.

00:54:45.000 And so here's the deal.

00:54:47.000 This man is talking about a vaccine.

00:54:49.000 Every serious, every serious company is talking about maybe having a vaccine done by the end of the year.

00:54:57.000 But the distribution of that vaccine.

00:54:58.000 No, that's not true.

00:54:59.000 That is not true.

00:55:00.000 There are several companies that have talked about having a vaccine done by October, or

00:55:03.000 at least an answer by October.

00:55:05.000 There are several that have said third phase trial will be done by October, which means

00:55:07.000 they can give an answer to the American public.

00:55:09.000 These people don't want an answer before October.

00:55:12.000 If a new drug comes on the market, and it's approved or it's made it through phase three

00:55:18.000 trials where there's basically just some paperwork to be done and red tape to cut through, which

00:55:21.000 by the way is what Operation Warp Speed cuts, they make that announcement.

00:55:25.000 Hey, we have a new autoimmune drug that works.

00:55:29.000 Hey, we have a new cancer treatment.

00:55:31.000 They always keep people updated of the clinical trial data.

00:55:36.000 And the biggest criticism is, well, it's not going to be distributed.

00:55:39.000 Well, of course.

00:55:40.000 That's just the way that it works.

00:55:42.000 We're talking about, is there a path to an exit out of the coronavirus era?

00:55:45.000 And there is.

00:55:46.000 That's when you get the vaccine solved, and then you still have to go through the hurdles of distribution.

00:55:50.000 Well, they said they wouldn't take the vaccine if it came out, and now they're saying, we don't even want an answer before then.

00:55:55.000 Yeah, right.

00:55:56.000 That's true.

00:55:56.000 It's like, why don't you want the information before election?

00:55:58.000 Oh, I think I know why, Mr. 9% unemployment.

00:56:03.000 Work for him.

00:56:04.000 Their job doesn't depend on him.

00:56:05.000 He's Mr. 9-person.

00:56:08.000 He spoke to the scientists that are in charge.

00:56:11.000 They will have the vaccine very soon.

00:56:13.000 Let him finish.

00:56:13.000 Do you believe for a moment what he's telling you in light of all the lies he's told you about the whole issue relating to COVID?

00:56:23.000 He still hasn't even acknowledged that he knew this was happening.

00:56:27.000 Do you mean lies like, don't wear a mask, you need a mask?

00:56:32.000 You mean lies like, well, it's not airborne?

00:56:34.000 Oh wait, it is airborne.

00:56:35.000 What lies do you mean?

00:56:38.000 Two million are going to die?

00:56:39.000 Okay, two million aren't going to die.

00:56:41.000 What do you mean?

00:56:42.000 Which lies, Joe?

00:56:43.000 There are lies and there is changing information.

00:56:47.000 And the experts have been wrong about everything.

00:56:50.000 Everything as it relates to COVID.

00:56:52.000 The only person more wrong than the scientific experts who the left loves to tout Our Democratic governors.

00:56:59.000 If you want to save the most vulnerable among us, old people and the sick, you would do the exact opposite of what states like Michigan and New York are doing.

00:57:08.000 Because guess what?

00:57:09.000 If we keep this never-ending lockdown, it's no safer for 80-year-olds three, four, five months from now.

00:57:14.000 I was saying this and I almost got banned on YouTube.

00:57:18.000 You're getting into dangerous territory.

00:57:20.000 I said, why don't we just quarantine sick and old people? 1.00

00:57:23.000 And my own doctor, Dr. Choi, Korean, I know you're not a huge fan, you know, you guys had your little tough act. 0.99

00:57:27.000 I love Koreans.

00:57:28.000 I love Koreans.

00:57:28.000 He said, oh, that's a novel idea.

00:57:31.000 No, it's a sensible one!

00:57:32.000 How the virus is handled going forward by whichever of you ends up becoming the next president.

00:57:38.000 I want to quickly go through several of those.

00:57:40.000 Reopenings.

00:57:41.000 Vice President Biden, you have been much more reluctant than President Trump about reopening the economy and schools.

00:57:48.000 Why, sir?

00:57:49.000 Because he doesn't have a plan.

00:57:51.000 If I were running, I'd know what the plan is.

00:57:53.000 You say because he's under the plan, and then he said because if I were running?

00:57:59.000 Is that what he just said?

00:57:59.000 Tell that to Nancy Pelosi.

00:58:00.000 You have to provide them with a plan.

00:58:02.000 Tell that to Nancy Pelosi. 0.93

00:58:04.000 Oh, he's just shushed for a minute.

00:58:06.000 Tell it to Nancy Pelosi and Schumer, Brian Chuck.

00:58:09.000 Nancy Pelosi and Schumer, they have a plan.

00:58:12.000 Yeah, it's eating dim sum and...

00:58:15.000 And I want to keep it open.

00:58:17.000 And we did a great thing by shutting it down.

00:58:20.000 Wait a minute, Joe.

00:58:20.000 late February. It was de Blasio in March who said go to theaters. But you know what? I mean,

00:58:25.000 tomato grandpa's dead. Yeah.

00:58:27.000 He wants to shut down this country. And I want to keep it open. And we did a great thing by

00:58:32.000 shutting it down. Wait a minute, Jeff. Let me shut you down for a second, Jeff. Just for one second.

00:58:36.000 He wants to shut down the country.

00:58:40.000 We just went through it.

00:58:41.000 We had to, because we didn't know anything about the disease.

00:58:43.000 Now we found that elderly people with heart problems and diabetes and different problems are very, very vulnerable.

00:58:51.000 We learned a lot.

00:58:51.000 Young children aren't.

00:58:53.000 And in New York, and worst of all in Michigan, they send young sick patients into the United States. 0.97

00:58:58.000 More people will be hurt by continuing.

00:59:01.000 If you look at Pennsylvania, if you look at certain states that have been shut down, they have Democrat governors all.

00:59:07.000 One of the reasons they shut down is because they want to keep it shut down until after the election.

00:59:10.000 68% of all their deaths were seniors nursing homes.

00:59:12.000 In Canada, it was 80%.

00:59:13.000 Michigan, they said, well, 34%.

00:59:14.000 Guess what?

00:59:14.000 Lie!

00:59:14.000 of all their deaths were seniors, nursing homes related.

00:59:17.000 68% percent. In Canada, it was 80%.

00:59:20.000 Michigan, they said, well, 34%. Guess what?

00:59:23.000 Lie! October 2nd, Lansing State Capitol.

00:59:26.000 This is going to be a... I hope you have your barn burning shoes.

00:59:29.000 I can't wear them.

00:59:30.000 Not flag-burning shoes!

00:59:32.000 Not flag-burning shoes!

00:59:33.000 Barn-burning shoes.

00:59:34.000 Like a patriot.

00:59:36.000 No, I think masks are okay.

00:59:38.000 You have to understand, if you look... I mean, I have a mask right here.

00:59:40.000 I put a mask on.

00:59:42.000 He did it!

00:59:44.000 Tonight, as an example, everybody's had a test.

00:59:46.000 Can Harris bring out that water-billed mallet and judge mallet?

00:59:50.000 I wear masks when needed.

00:59:51.000 When needed, I wear masks.

00:59:54.000 I don't wear masks like him.

00:59:55.000 Every time you see him, he's got a mask.

00:59:57.000 He could be speaking 200 feet away from me and he shows up with the biggest mask I've ever seen.

01:00:02.000 That's just his face.

01:00:06.000 The way to open businesses is given the wherewithal to be able to open.

01:00:10.000 How?

01:00:10.000 We provided money... I thought I was asking you, sir, about masks.

01:00:14.000 This is a perfect example of not understanding the economy.

01:00:16.000 If you think sending out, what was it, $1,000?

01:00:18.000 What was the relief?

01:00:19.000 Did it end up being $1,200?

01:00:21.000 $1,200.

01:00:21.000 If you think that supports a business, for example, let's say a business like this with 15 employees, you are out of your tree, sir!

01:00:29.000 No.

01:00:30.000 No serious person said the opposite.

01:00:32.000 Bill Gates, huge supporter of the Democratic Party by the way, said we should lock everything down until there's a vaccine.

01:00:40.000 You won't take the vaccine if it comes out before the election.

01:00:44.000 I'm asking both about one last subject because your different approach has even affected the way that you have campaigned.

01:00:50.000 What's that?

01:00:50.000 What's going on?

01:00:51.000 President Trump, you're holding large rallies with crowds packed together.

01:00:55.000 What are you doing?

01:00:57.000 I'm not wearing a cuff.

01:00:59.000 President Biden, you are holding much smaller... Yeah, go talk with him.

01:01:03.000 Thank you.

01:01:05.000 Weird.

01:01:05.000 That's strange.

01:01:07.000 Nobody shows up to his rallies.

01:01:08.000 All right.

01:01:08.000 In any case, why you holding the big rallies?

01:01:11.000 Why you not?

01:01:12.000 You go first, sir.

01:01:14.000 Because people want to hear what I have to say.

01:01:16.000 25, 35,000 people show up at airports.

01:01:23.000 We use airports.

01:01:23.000 Are you not worried about people?

01:01:26.000 Well, so far we have had no problem whatsoever.

01:01:29.000 It's outside.

01:01:30.000 That's a big difference.

01:01:30.000 According to the Experts.

01:01:33.000 And we do them outside.

01:01:34.000 We have tremendous crowds.

01:01:36.000 Remember them, Joe?

01:01:37.000 I'm sorry, you don't remember anything!

01:01:41.000 And Joe does the circles and has three people someplace.

01:01:43.000 Drink, and by the way, I'm going to need another beer here soon.

01:01:48.000 Bring back up the drinking game rules for people who don't remember here.

01:01:51.000 Stand back.

01:01:52.000 Put on your mask.

01:01:53.000 Put on your mask.

01:01:54.000 Have you been tested?

01:01:56.000 I'm way far away from those other people.

01:01:59.000 That's what he said.

01:02:00.000 I can't.

01:02:01.000 I'm going to be okay.

01:02:02.000 He's not worried about you.

01:02:03.000 He's not worried about the people out there breeding in one another.

01:02:08.000 We've had no negative effect.

01:02:10.000 We've had no negative effect.

01:02:11.000 And guess what?

01:02:12.000 Nobody was forced to go to his rallies.

01:02:14.000 Nobody, like, went out and rounded them up and made them go.

01:02:16.000 That's another thing.

01:02:17.000 Don't you love Governor Whitmer and Mishima will be October 2nd?

01:02:20.000 She said, well, yeah, his rallies are a violation of my executive order. 0.98

01:02:23.000 Who the hell are you? 0.94

01:02:25.000 Right. 0.98

01:02:25.000 You think you get to stop people from exercising their First Amendment right outside because of a cough? 0.98

01:02:31.000 Namely, the President.

01:02:32.000 Yeah.

01:02:33.000 And it's not like it's an important thing going to hear your leader speak to you in person, right?

01:02:40.000 In the second quarter, the unemployment rate fell to 8.4% last month.

01:02:45.000 The Federal Reserve says the hit to growth, which is going to be there, is not going to be nearly as big as they had expected.

01:02:53.000 President Trump, you say we are in a V-shaped recovery.

01:02:57.000 V-ish. 0.99

01:02:58.000 Vice President Biden, you say it's more of a K-shape.

01:03:00.000 Biden couldn't even spell V. What difference does that mean to the American people in terms of the economy?

01:03:07.000 President Trump, in this segment, you go first.

01:03:09.000 So we built the greatest economy in history.

01:03:11.000 We closed it down because of the China plague. 1.00

01:03:14.000 When the plague came in, we closed it down, which was very hard psychologically to do.

01:03:18.000 He didn't think we should close it down and he was wrong.

01:03:21.000 And again, two million people would be dead now.

01:03:25.000 Still, 204,000 people is too much.

01:03:28.000 One person is too much.

01:03:29.000 Should have never happened from China. 0.99

01:03:31.000 But what happened is we closed it down and now we're reopening and we're doing record business.

01:03:36.000 We had 10.4 million people in a four-month period that we've put back into the workforce.

01:03:41.000 That's a record the likes of which nobody's ever seen before.

01:03:44.000 And he wants to close down the- he will shut it down again.

01:03:47.000 He will destroy this country.

01:03:49.000 You know, a lot of people- He did say it, and his entire party supports it.

01:03:52.000 Let's be really clear about that.

01:03:55.000 Come on, you see Joe Biden coming out here tonight.

01:03:57.000 This guy looks like he's at death's door and he sounds like it, too.

01:04:00.000 Kamala Harris said, under a Harris administration.

01:04:03.000 She didn't even have the courtesy of correcting herself.

01:04:07.000 You know, I remember back in the days of, you know what, can Desi Arnaz be resurrected to give that woman a fat lip? 0.80

01:04:15.000 Boom, zoom, send her back to at least her place. 1.00

01:04:18.000 The VP, she's on the undercard of that ticket. 1.00

01:04:20.000 She said that under her administration.

01:04:22.000 It's just, we're at this point where it is unreal.

01:04:25.000 They want to shut down the economy in perpetuity.

01:04:28.000 Michigan and a couple of others.

01:04:29.000 You got to open these states up.

01:04:31.000 It's not fair.

01:04:32.000 You're talking about almost it's like being in prison.

01:04:34.000 And you look at what's going on with divorce.

01:04:37.000 Look at what's going on with alcoholism and drugs.

01:04:39.000 It's a very, very sad thing.

01:04:41.000 And he'll close down the whole country.

01:04:43.000 This guy will close down the whole country and destroy our country.

01:04:46.000 Our country is coming back incredibly well, setting records as it does it.

01:04:51.000 We don't need somebody to come in and say, let's shut it down.

01:04:54.000 All right.

01:04:55.000 Your two minutes, sir.

01:04:56.000 We're now moved to you.

01:04:58.000 As I said, posing the question, the President says it's a V-shaped recovery, you say it's a K-shaped recovery.

01:05:05.000 Thank you very much.

01:05:06.000 Remedial.

01:05:06.000 The difference is, millionaires and billionaires like him, in the middle of a COVID crisis, have done very well.

01:05:12.000 It's useful.

01:05:13.000 Billionaires like Ray have made another $300 billion.

01:05:17.000 Huh?

01:05:18.000 Because of his profligate tax proposal.

01:05:22.000 Oh, Ray, what's the benchmark?

01:05:23.000 I'm going to need another beer.

01:05:25.000 You folks living in Scranton and Claymont and all the small towns and working class towns in America.

01:05:30.000 You haven't been to Scranton in 40-something years!

01:05:34.000 This guy paid a total of $750 in taxes.

01:05:35.000 Sir, it's the wrong statement.

01:05:38.000 I understand.

01:05:38.000 You've agreed to the two minutes, so please let him have it.

01:05:40.000 Do I get my time back?

01:05:42.000 The fact is that he has, in fact, worked on this in a way that he's going to be the first president of the United States to leave office.

01:05:48.000 The average wage growth in the United States under Donald Trump in his three years is $5,000.

01:05:53.000 It is more significant than ever in modern American history.

01:06:00.000 That never happened under Barack Obama, and it's even more significant for African Americans.

01:06:04.000 That is something that people need to know.

01:06:07.000 And also, by the way, we're talking about trade agreements.

01:06:09.000 In the economy, Joe Biden supported NAFTA, Joe Biden supported the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and Donald Trump did away with those.

01:06:15.000 And a big part of this that no one ever talks about when they talk about fighting for 15, you know, I was reading up on some of these rules here, is some key points from the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement.

01:06:23.000 It requires 75% of the vehicle's parts be made from one of those countries, and it requires more vehicle parts and labor take place by workers earning more than $16 an hour.

01:06:33.000 This is what he does.

01:06:35.000 This is how he helps support the American worker, and you see record wage growth.

01:06:39.000 It affects you.

01:06:40.000 You have paid less in taxes and seen more wage growth.

01:06:43.000 Joe Biden has to lie about that because he knows that Americans are experiencing it.

01:06:48.000 They were going to give, his administration were going to give the teachers and school students masks.

01:06:53.000 And then they decided, no, couldn't do that because it's not a national emergency.

01:06:57.000 Not a national emergency.

01:06:58.000 They've done nothing to help that small business.

01:07:01.000 Don't come back.

01:07:01.000 Nothing.

01:07:02.000 They're closing.

01:07:03.000 One in six is now gone.

01:07:05.000 He ought to get on the job and take care of the needs of the American people so we can open safely.

01:07:12.000 Your time is up, sir.

01:07:12.000 Has he given any specifics tonight?

01:07:14.000 No, no.

01:07:15.000 Wait, hold on, hold on.

01:07:15.000 Nope, none.

01:07:16.000 He should do something.

01:07:17.000 Let me give you some specifics.

01:07:18.000 The hashtag is CrowderDebateStream, and it's CrowderDebateStream.

01:07:21.000 You get $20 off if you join MudClub at livewithcrowder.com slash MudClub.

01:07:24.000 We haven't had our stream banned tonight, so that's not good, but I fully anticipate it.

01:07:28.000 Why you gotta jinx us?

01:07:29.000 I've worked too hard today.

01:07:31.000 Sorry.

01:07:31.000 ...recover what they've done in New York.

01:07:33.000 People want their places open.

01:07:35.000 They want to get back to their lives.

01:07:37.000 They'll be careful, but they want their schools open.

01:07:40.000 I'm the one that brought back football.

01:07:42.000 By the way, I brought back Big Ten football.

01:07:44.000 America.

01:07:44.000 He is actually.

01:07:45.000 And I'm very happy to do it.

01:07:47.000 Yeah, but football has become a commie sport.

01:07:49.000 I'm very proud of me, and you know what I mean?

01:07:51.000 He's talking commie football.

01:07:52.000 Gentlemen, let's get back to your economic plans going forward in a moment.

01:07:56.000 But first, Mr. President... I never thought I'd live to see the day where American football is gayer than soccer.

01:08:01.000 in the year you were elected president in 2017.

01:08:04.000 It's almost all first year as president that you paid $750 a year in federal income tax.

01:08:14.000 I know that you pay a lot of other taxes, but I'm asking you the specific question.

01:08:19.000 Is it true that you paid $750 in federal income taxes each of those two years?

01:08:25.000 Is it true?

01:08:26.000 I'll come back to this question.

01:08:28.000 Rachel Maddow, remember she had a big reveal that it was 2005 Donald Trump only paid $38 million in taxes?

01:08:36.000 Listen, there's some years where you pay tens of millions, hundreds of millions, and there's some years where you have losses of the business, but there's more to it than that.

01:08:42.000 That's why I said, is it true?

01:08:44.000 That's an important note on that question.

01:08:45.000 Go to the Board of Elections.

01:08:47.000 There's a 118 page or so report that says everything I have, every bank I have, I'm totally under leveraged because the assets are extremely good and we have a very, we have a, I built a... I don't know money!

01:09:01.000 I understand all of that.

01:09:03.000 I just take it from other people.

01:09:05.000 When will you get to see it?

01:09:06.000 I don't want to pay taxes.

01:09:07.000 Can you tell us how much you paid in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017?

01:09:14.000 Millions of dollars.

01:09:15.000 You paid millions of dollars?

01:09:16.000 Millions of dollars.

01:09:17.000 So not $750?

01:09:18.000 Millions of dollars.

01:09:19.000 And you'll get to see it.

01:09:20.000 And you'll get to see it.

01:09:21.000 When?

01:09:22.000 In July?

01:09:23.000 But let me just tell you, Chris, let me just tell you something.

01:09:24.000 What did he say?

01:09:25.000 When what?

01:09:26.000 When will you get to see it?

01:09:27.000 When did Joe Biden say?

01:09:28.000 When in July?

01:09:29.000 In July.

01:09:30.000 Before I came here, I was a private developer.

01:09:31.000 I was a private business people. 0.99

01:09:32.000 Like every other private person, unless they're stupid, they go through the laws and that's what it is. 0.99

01:09:38.000 True. 0.98

01:09:38.000 He passed a tax bill that gave us all these privileges for depreciation and for the tax currency. 0.98

01:09:43.000 Joe Biden has an S Corp to run Joe Biden stuff through in his and saves $500,000 by doing that.

01:09:47.000 an S-Corp to run Joe Biden's stuff through in his and save $500,000 by doing that.

01:09:52.000 Well, to be fair, much like the presidency, Kamala Harris is the main trustee.

01:09:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:59.000 It's reparations.

01:10:01.000 Look, the tax code that made him- And you!

01:10:05.000 Put him in a position that he pays less tax than a school teacher makes- False!

01:10:11.000 Okay, here's what I will say.

01:10:13.000 He has no substance here.

01:10:14.000 I realized this as I woke up today.

01:10:15.000 And I had a song in my head, but I was just going, wait a second, wait a second.

01:10:18.000 We talked about this, about tax codes and Americans and employers and who understands what, how many people have actually had to pay payroll tax versus, you know, social security.

01:10:24.000 Okay, income tax versus corporate tax.

01:10:28.000 And then I realized, we skipped past.

01:10:30.000 This came from the New York Times, who had the Russia collusion story.

01:10:33.000 And they said they had the taxes, and now they said, well, by the way, it didn't confirm anything with Russia.

01:10:37.000 And then I realized, wait a second.

01:10:39.000 Do we have any confirmation?

01:10:40.000 Do we have any legitimate source?

01:10:41.000 Do we have any corroboration that this is true?

01:10:43.000 At all?

01:10:43.000 None.

01:10:44.000 None.

01:10:45.000 So I don't even know why we're addressing it.

01:10:46.000 And I swear to you, you might even turn it on.

01:10:48.000 I woke up, and this is how it came to me.

01:10:50.000 I'm not, I had a song, and you know what it was?

01:10:52.000 No.

01:10:52.000 This is, I woke up, and in my head, I was like, my head popped off the pillow.

01:10:56.000 And I just watched The Wedding Singer. 1.00

01:10:58.000 And it was, IT ALL WAS BULLSHIT! 0.99

01:11:02.000 THE NEW YORK TIMES A JOKE! 1.00

01:11:05.000 AND WHEN I THINK OF YOU, BIDEN, I HOPE YOU'LL FUCKIN' CHOKE! 1.00

01:11:11.000 Oh wow. 1.00

01:11:12.000 That was in my head all day.

01:11:13.000 And then I spent hours going through it and I was like, there's no confirmation of the story for the New York Times!

01:11:20.000 None!

01:11:21.000 None!

01:11:22.000 And it's made it into a presidential debate!

01:11:24.000 That is the definition of fake news!

01:11:26.000 Exactly, on every news channel.

01:11:27.000 By the way, the news channel that said that Fox News has no journalistic standards whatsoever, they don't confirm their stories before they go to air?

01:11:34.000 CNN.

01:11:34.000 That's the people that have been pushing this harder than anyone else.

01:11:37.000 Can someone confirm to me that he got that from the Montreal Planet Hollywood, from the Beetlejuice wardrobe, that tie on Joe Biden?

01:11:45.000 It would create an additional $1 trillion in economic growth.

01:11:48.000 Are you running for president or a Tim Burton barbershop quartet?

01:11:53.000 The federal government spends $600 billion a year on everything from ships to steel to buildings and the like.

01:12:01.000 And under my proposal, we're going to make sure that every penny of that has to be made by a company in America.

01:12:07.000 But respectfully, sir, I'm talking about taxes, not taxes.

01:12:10.000 By the way, I'm going to eliminate a significant number of the tax.

01:12:13.000 I'm going to make the corporate tax 28%.

01:12:17.000 It shouldn't be 21%.

01:12:17.000 You have 19 companies.

01:12:18.000 That's twice he's answered a question he didn't ask.

01:12:21.000 Why didn't you do it billions of times?

01:12:22.000 That's twice he's answered a question he didn't ask.

01:12:26.000 Why didn't you do it billions of times?

01:12:28.000 Because Obama...

01:12:30.000 Because you in fact passed that.

01:12:32.000 That was your tax proposal.

01:12:34.000 I got it done, and you know what happened?

01:12:36.000 Our economy boomed.

01:12:37.000 It's never boomed.

01:12:38.000 The economy is busted.

01:12:39.000 Mr. President, let me finish.

01:12:41.000 Mr. President, let me pick up on that.

01:12:42.000 You would continue your free market approach, lower taxes, more deregulation, correct?

01:12:48.000 Not lower taxes on the American people.

01:12:50.000 Yes, lower taxes on the American people.

01:12:53.000 Whether it's Obama's 1600 or 1800, the average American paid less in taxes.

01:12:56.000 Cross all brackets.

01:12:58.000 More jobs were created.

01:13:00.000 A million and a half more jobs than in the first three years of your presidency.

01:13:05.000 They had the slowest recovery since 19- Economic recovery since 1929.

01:13:10.000 It was the slowest recovery.

01:13:13.000 Also, they took over something that was down here.

01:13:16.000 All you had to do is turn on the lights and you pick up a lot.

01:13:18.000 But they had the slowest economic recovery since 1929.

01:13:21.000 Let me tell you about the stock market.

01:13:24.000 When the stock market goes up, that means jobs.

01:13:26.000 It also means 401Ks.

01:13:27.000 It may not play well, but my God, this is really fun.

01:13:29.000 If you're the same president with your ideas, you want to terminate my taxes, I'll tell you what, you'll lose half of the companies that have poured in here will leave, and plenty of companies that are already here, they'll leave for other places.

01:13:42.000 They will leave, and you will have an impression of the likes of which you've never seen.

01:13:46.000 Look, we inherited.

01:13:49.000 The worst recession short of a depression in American history.

01:13:53.000 I was asked to bring it back.

01:13:54.000 We were able to have... I gotta say something important here.

01:13:57.000 Any person who's done investing in the last three years, investing in real estate, investing in stocks, investing in the economy, has said during the entirety of the Trump presidency, yeah, no doubt the economy came back.

01:14:08.000 That's how the cycle works.

01:14:09.000 But they've been saying every year since Trump was president, Well, it's going to go down next year.

01:14:14.000 Well, it's definitely got to be next quarter.

01:14:15.000 Something else that's really telling, they claim they inherited a bad economy from George Bush, but they never say, right now he hasn't said, we passed on the economy to Trump.

01:14:23.000 He's saying, oh, the economy is terrible.

01:14:25.000 They go to COVID.

01:14:26.000 So before COVID they tried to say, Oh, you know what?

01:14:29.000 Actually, he's only doing well because of our economy, because apparently there's a lag of, hmm, give or take four years, give or take a term.

01:14:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:14:35.000 But now they're pivoting to, ah, see, look, the economy is bad because of COVID.

01:14:38.000 Yeah.

01:14:39.000 What happened?

01:14:39.000 Well, hold on a second.

01:14:40.000 Wasn't it your economy?

01:14:41.000 They know that they can claim no credit.

01:14:43.000 I can tell you this anecdotally.

01:14:45.000 Two more hires.

01:14:46.000 Bryce and Angela.

01:14:48.000 Yeah.

01:14:48.000 Period.

01:14:49.000 As a small business.

01:14:50.000 Two more hires because we can project.

01:14:51.000 Yeah, well, you're just not on the payroll.

01:14:53.000 We turned him to volunteer.

01:14:56.000 Is that a lie?

01:14:56.000 What is that email I get?

01:14:57.000 Well, yeah.

01:14:58.000 The numbers that you see in your account?

01:15:00.000 It's just me doing a screen share with a fake bank account.

01:15:06.000 A lot. 1.00

01:15:06.000 FUCK YOU! 1.00

01:15:07.000 FUCK YOU, YOU BIGGIE LITTLE ASSHOLE! 1.00

01:15:09.000 I'M SORRY! 1.00

01:15:10.000 THIS IS THE BIGGEST CONTRAST BETWEEN THE TWO ADMINISTRATIONS!

01:15:13.000 THIS GUY SUPPORTED NAFTA!

01:15:15.000 He talks about the art of the deal. 1.00

01:15:16.000 Fuck you, you biggie little asshole! 1.00

01:15:18.000 I'm sorry! 1.00

01:15:19.000 This is the biggest contrast between the two administrations.

01:15:22.000 This guy supported NAFTA, this guy supported TPP, Donald Trump scrapped them.

01:15:27.000 How do you think you have the lowest approval rating of middle class working American voters? 0.98

01:15:33.000 You screwed them!

01:15:36.000 And Donald Trump, the Republican, has rewritten the electoral map. 0.97

01:15:40.000 It's not even close.

01:15:42.000 You shipped jobs overseas and you increased taxes on the business owners who were employing those Americans.

01:15:48.000 The guy to your right, my left, On this screen, I assume we don't have the spatial awareness of how it's going on with the Constitution written in the background that Joe Biden likely ignored.

01:15:56.000 The fact is, he knows what has been going on.

01:15:59.000 He has lowered taxes on American businesses and forced them to meet prerequisites if they want to have a tax break.

01:16:06.000 This is a good thing, too.

01:16:07.000 He really hasn't had to do all that much as far as tariffs.

01:16:09.000 He's just had to say, hey, listen, you are going to be rewarded if you employ more Americans who make $16 an hour or more for American auto manufacturing.

01:16:17.000 You are going to make more if you bring jobs back here We're going to encourage it.

01:16:22.000 And by the way, even China all of a sudden was like, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe we were wrong. 0.92

01:16:29.000 I am now considering removing my pecker from your ear. 0.55

01:16:35.000 That was from their Prime Minister. 0.87

01:16:37.000 The 48th year is the chunk.

01:16:38.000 I thought it was distasteful.

01:16:40.000 But that's how their Prime Ministers talk over there.

01:16:42.000 Well, you know, sometimes you gotta say what you gotta say.

01:16:44.000 By everyone.

01:16:44.000 President.

01:16:45.000 That's discredited. 0.81

01:16:45.000 Dictator. 0.81

01:16:47.000 As a matter of fact, even the people who testified under oath.

01:16:51.000 So let me ask you this.

01:16:52.000 Mr. I'm listening to you.

01:16:54.000 He got three and a half million votes from Moscow.

01:16:58.000 He testified under oath and his administration said, I did my job and I did it very well.

01:17:03.000 I did it honorably.

01:17:04.000 I'd like to know who they are.

01:17:05.000 Well, I'll give you the list of the people who testified.

01:17:08.000 Go ahead, sir.

01:17:09.000 You've already fired most of them because they did a good job.

01:17:12.000 Some people don't do a good job.

01:17:14.000 Yeah?

01:17:15.000 Wait a minute, you get the final word. 0.99

01:17:16.000 Well, it's hard to get any word in with this clown. 0.98

01:17:19.000 Excuse me, this... Hey, hey, let me just... Oh! 0.99

01:17:23.000 Oh, wow!

01:17:25.000 Down the bear, in the mud.

01:17:29.000 We want to talk about families and ethics.

01:17:32.000 I don't want to do that.

01:17:33.000 I mean his family we could talk about.

01:17:35.000 I don't want to do it.

01:17:36.000 His family's already broken.

01:17:37.000 My family lost a fortune by coming down and helping us with government.

01:17:42.000 By making a fortune in government, Donald Trump and his family have forgone fortune by working for government.

01:17:42.000 That's true.

01:17:51.000 Which by the way, if they're saying Donald Trump hasn't paid anything in taxes, He sure is shitty at funneling money to his own entities as President of the United States, which was the scandal they said we should believe. 0.64

01:18:00.000 Hold on a second. 0.92

01:18:00.000 Is it he's such a crappy business person that he's never paid taxes? 0.92

01:18:04.000 Or he's this cunning, evil genius who's become President so that he can increase the value of his businesses? 0.93

01:18:08.000 Because the ears are talking about him not paying taxes.

01:18:10.000 He was President.

01:18:11.000 You gotta pick one.

01:18:13.000 Sir, that is absolutely not true.

01:18:17.000 You're gonna have... Gentlemen!

01:18:20.000 I hate to raise my voice, but I think it needs to be... Why should I be different than the two of you?

01:18:26.000 So here's the deal.

01:18:27.000 We have six segments.

01:18:30.000 We've ended that segment.

01:18:31.000 We're going to go to the next segment.

01:18:32.000 He's about to walk all over him.

01:18:34.000 I'm not, I'm surprised there isn't a light up sneaker footprint on the streets.

01:18:38.000 I like him. I like him.

01:18:39.000 You can say anything you want.

01:18:40.000 I'm going to ask a question about race, but if you want to answer about something else, go ahead.

01:18:45.000 Joe Biden, please do mention that you oppose desegregation because you didn't want your children to, quote, grow up in a racial jungle.

01:18:51.000 Confirmed by Snopes! 0.99

01:18:53.000 Go type in racial jungle Biden and Snopes, and they really didn't want to confirm that shit. 0.99

01:18:59.000 Well, less than, sir, less than, no, less than you have. 0.99

01:19:01.000 Please continue on.

01:19:05.000 The issue of race.

01:19:06.000 Vice President Biden, you say that President Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville three years ago, when he talked about very fine people on both sides, was what directly led you...

01:19:20.000 To launch this run for president.

01:19:22.000 Oh yeah, sure.

01:19:23.000 President Trump, you have often said that you believe you have done more for black Americans than any president at the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln. 0.99

01:19:34.000 I want to hear this answer because that old white shark-eyed albino is a real racist. 0.94

01:19:40.000 To deal with the race issues facing this country over the next four years, Vice President Biden, you go first. 0.94

01:19:47.000 It's about equity and equality.

01:19:49.000 It's about decency.

01:19:50.000 It's about the Constitution.

01:19:52.000 And we have never walked away from trying to require equity for everyone, equality for the whole America.

01:19:59.000 Why'd you draft the 1994 crime bill, Joe?

01:20:01.000 We never accomplished it, but we've never walked away from that.

01:20:04.000 Why did you write an AF4 crime bill?

01:20:06.000 Why do you oppose desegregation, saying that you didn't want your children to, quote, grow up in a racial jungle, confirmed by Snow? 1.00

01:20:11.000 You racist asshole. 1.00

01:20:13.000 I'm willing to bet that if we go into a closet, we'll find a stack of white hoods like it's a returning costume like the Captain of the Incredibles. 1.00

01:20:20.000 Just like Pee Wee Herman's suit.

01:20:23.000 Only it's a white hat with a cone on it and two eye slits.

01:20:25.000 There was a peaceful protest in front of the White House.

01:20:27.000 What did he do?

01:20:28.000 He did define people on both sides' arguments. 0.98

01:20:30.000 He's a reformed racist. 0.98

01:20:31.000 Come on. 1.00

01:20:32.000 Reformed racist.

01:20:33.000 Donald Trump condemned neo-Nazis as opposed to you, Joe Biden.

01:20:35.000 You're a safe one.

01:20:36.000 You're a safe one.

01:20:37.000 Hack, man.

01:20:38.000 There was a peaceful protest in front of the White House.

01:20:39.000 I don't think Joe Biden's a racist. 0.98

01:20:40.000 I think he's a negro. 1.00

01:20:41.000 What did he do? 0.81

01:20:42.000 He came out of his bunker, had the military use tear gas on him so he could walk across 1.00

01:20:46.000 I'm pretty confident he's just reading headlines from like young jerks with no facts. 0.99

01:20:51.000 That's his research, yeah. 0.99

01:20:52.000 that it was a disgrace. The general who was with the president...

01:20:55.000 I feel like Apu was a well-known liberal activist. 0.99

01:20:57.000 I'm pretty confident he's just reading headlines from like young jerks with no facts. 0.98

01:21:02.000 That's his research. Yeah, his debate partner, his mock debate partner, 0.98

01:21:06.000 was an angry pink mohawk lesbian. 1.00

01:21:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:21:09.000 You talk about helping African Americans...

01:21:10.000 I don't laugh because that's probably true.

01:21:12.000 One in one.

01:21:13.000 One in 1,000 African-Americans has been killed because of the coronavirus.

01:21:18.000 And if he doesn't do something quickly, by the end of the year, one in 500 will have been killed.

01:21:23.000 One in 500 African-Americans.

01:21:26.000 This man?

01:21:27.000 What are you talking about?

01:21:30.000 Uh, Reg?

01:21:31.000 Reg?

01:21:31.000 One in 500?

01:21:32.000 Is there a 0.25% mortality rate for black Americans?

01:21:35.000 I mean, it's kind of high.

01:21:37.000 Look at what he talks about.

01:21:38.000 You have to look at what he did, and what he did has been disastrous for the African American people.

01:21:43.000 But if he's talking about black Americans in prison, where he put them because of his 1994 crime bill, and Kamala

01:21:49.000 Harris kept them there as free indentured servitude labor for the state, then I guess he has a point.

01:21:55.000 That's one for you, Biden.

01:21:56.000 Super predators.

01:21:57.000 Ooh, yeah, Joe.

01:21:57.000 Yep.

01:21:57.000 Non-violent drug offenders.

01:21:58.000 Anyone out there who thinks that non-violent drug offenders shouldn't be locked up, your choice couldn't be more clear.

01:22:02.000 Biden is.

01:22:02.000 Yeah, Joe, you said that.

01:22:04.000 And they call you a super predator.

01:22:05.000 And I'm letting people out of jail now that you have treated the African American population. 1.00

01:22:11.000 Anyone out there thinks that nonviolent drug offenders shouldn't be locked up.

01:22:14.000 Your choice couldn't be more clear.

01:22:15.000 Biden has it's been almost his raison d'etre.

01:22:18.000 If you look at the polls, I'm doing better than any Republican has done in a long time.

01:22:22.000 That's true.

01:22:23.000 Because they saw what you did.

01:22:24.000 You call them super predators, and you've called them worse than that.

01:22:28.000 Because you look back at your testimony over the years, you've called them a lot worse than that.

01:22:32.000 As far as the church is concerned, and as far as the generals are concerned, we just got the support of 250 military leaders and generals.

01:22:41.000 Total support.

01:22:42.000 Law enforcement, almost every law enforcement group in the United States.

01:22:47.000 That's really got to sting because they're big union guys.

01:22:49.000 Does that count as evidence? 0.73

01:22:52.000 Wait, is he the sheriff of the black lady of Portland?

01:22:55.000 and he said I support President Trump.

01:22:57.000 I don't think you have any law enforcement.

01:22:59.000 You can't even say the word law enforcement.

01:23:00.000 Wait, is he saying the sheriff the black lady of Portland?

01:23:02.000 Or was that the police commissioner?

01:23:03.000 It must be the second sheriff.

01:23:04.000 It was the police commissioner.

01:23:05.000 Sheriff.

01:23:07.000 Why don't you say the words law enforcement?

01:23:09.000 Because you know what?

01:23:10.000 If they called us in Portland, we would put out that fire in a half an hour, but they won't do it because they're run by radical left Democrats.

01:23:18.000 If you look at Chicago, if you look at any place you wanna look, Seattle, they heard we were coming in the following day and they put up their hands and we got back Seattle.

01:23:27.000 Minneapolis, we got it back, Joe, because we believe in law and order, but you don't.

01:23:32.000 The top 10 cities in just about the top 40 cities are run by Democrats, and in many cases, radical left.

01:23:40.000 And they've got you wrapped around their finger, Joe, to a point where you don't want to say anything about law and order.

01:23:46.000 And I'll tell you what, the people of this country want and demand law and order, and you're afraid to even say it.

01:23:53.000 I want to return to the question of race.

01:23:56.000 You said it raises the question, quote, whether justice could be equally applied in America.

01:24:00.000 trying to go through the inventory in his brain for something that he couldn't find.

01:24:04.000 You said it raises the question, quote, whether justice could be equally applied in America.

01:24:10.000 Do you believe that there is a separate but unequal system of justice for blacks in this

01:24:16.000 Look, this is what Joe Biden scalped in.

01:24:18.000 Yes, there's systemic injustice in this country.

01:24:21.000 In education, in work, and in law enforcement.

01:24:25.000 And the way in which it's enforced.

01:24:27.000 But look, the vast majority of police officers are good, decent, honorable men and women.

01:24:32.000 They risk their lives every day to take care of us.

01:24:34.000 But there are some bad apples.

01:24:36.000 Oh, I thought bad apples was the worst thing to say.

01:24:40.000 You can't make that argument.

01:24:41.000 You just said it's systemic.

01:24:42.000 You can't then go say there's a few bad apples and it's systemic.

01:24:45.000 It's one or the other.

01:24:46.000 Pick a lane.

01:24:47.000 Systemic is a bad tree.

01:24:47.000 And people give him a pass on this.

01:24:49.000 No specifics.

01:24:50.000 We're going to work this out.

01:24:51.000 Who are we going to tell?

01:24:52.000 Now?

01:24:52.000 Whoa.

01:24:52.000 We saw police chiefs and we're gonna work this out. We're gonna work this out. So we change the way in which we have

01:24:58.000 transparency.

01:24:59.000 We're gonna talk about how these things happen. These cops aren't happy to see what happened to George Floyd.

01:25:05.000 I didn't expect it!

01:25:06.000 Cops aren't happy to see what happens.

01:25:07.000 Dog-faced pony boy!

01:25:08.000 What?

01:25:09.000 Do some push-ups, huh? 1.00

01:25:10.000 I shit. 1.00

01:25:11.000 Myself. 1.00

01:25:12.000 Laugh, you stupid bats. 1.00

01:25:15.000 Violence in response is never appropriate. 1.00

01:25:18.000 Never appropriate.

01:25:19.000 Peaceful protest is.

01:25:21.000 He's not going to comment on the things he says.

01:25:23.000 Peaceful protest.

01:25:24.000 When they run through the middle of the town and burn down your stores and kill people

01:25:28.000 all over the place.

01:25:29.000 That is not peaceful protest.

01:25:30.000 No, it's not.

01:25:31.000 But you say it is.

01:25:32.000 President Trump, I'd like to continue with the issue of race.

01:25:35.000 I promise we're going to get to the issue of law and order in a moment.

01:25:39.000 This month, your administration directed federal agencies to end hasty racial...

01:25:44.000 Why did you decide to do that, to end racial sensitivity training?

01:25:46.000 answer that in a second. Right, we will. Yeah, it's true.

01:25:48.000 Absolutely. Like listen, you guys you guys will each have time to answer the questions. Good,

01:25:53.000 that's what I wanted.

01:25:56.000 Do you believe that there is systemic racism in this country, sir?

01:25:59.000 No.

01:25:59.000 I ended it because it's racist, I ended it because a lot of people were complaining that they were asked to do things that were absolutely insane, that it was a radical revolution that was taking place in our military, in our schools, all over the place, and you know it, and so does everybody else.

01:26:21.000 Sensitivity training.

01:26:22.000 If you are a certain person, you have no status in life.

01:26:27.000 It was sort of a reversal.

01:26:28.000 And if you look at the people, we were paying people hundreds of thousands of dollars to teach very bad ideas and frankly, very sick ideas.

01:26:36.000 And really, they were teaching people to hate our country.

01:26:40.000 And I'm not going to do that.

01:26:41.000 I'm not going to allow that to happen.

01:26:43.000 We have to go back to the core values of this country.

01:26:47.000 They were teaching people that our country is a horrible place, it's a racist place, and they were teaching people to hate our country.

01:26:54.000 That is absolutely true. 0.95

01:26:54.000 If you look at Critical Race Theory and Black Liberation Theology, if you look at what Barack Obama subscribes to with Derek Bell, if you look at these beliefs, this is the idea of implicit bias, it's you are racist if you are white, ergo, the United States is a racist country. 0.95

01:27:08.000 People have to be made aware Of what other people feel like.

01:27:13.000 Like you were made aware when you opposed desegregation because you didn't want your kids to grow up in a racial jungle, according to Snopes.

01:27:21.000 Joe Biden.

01:27:22.000 Now to be clear, I don't think he's a racist.

01:27:25.000 He just plays one on TV.

01:27:26.000 He does a really good job portraying that.

01:27:29.000 It's a little bit like how this guy and his friends look down on so many people.

01:27:34.000 They look down their nose on people like Irish Catholics like me who grew up in Scranton.

01:27:39.000 Who's looking down on African Americans?

01:27:42.000 Joe.

01:27:42.000 I've got to say, I don't think, we've talked about people who try and avoid issues and not get to specifics.

01:27:48.000 I've got to say, I don't think we've talked about people who try and avoid issues and

01:27:52.000 not get to specifics.

01:27:54.000 I've never seen it so egregious as tonight with Joe Biden.

01:27:57.000 This guy who looks down on, is there any that he looks down on Irish Catholics?

01:28:01.000 Is he just reading another headline from HuffPo that says, behind closed doors, Donald Trump

01:28:06.000 mocks Christian voters? 0.99

01:28:07.000 He just nominated a Catholic to the Supreme Court, you asshat! 1.00

01:28:11.000 You bumbling, demented circus monkey! 1.00

01:28:14.000 I checked it wasn't the Republicans throwing shade at her for being a Catholic either. 1.00

01:28:19.000 Right.

01:28:20.000 No, that was the New York Times.

01:28:21.000 They also have a completely uncorroborated, unconfirmed story about Donald Trump's taxes.

01:28:24.000 Oh.

01:28:25.000 Violent crime.

01:28:26.000 Violent crime.

01:28:28.000 Are you in favor of law and order?

01:28:29.000 I'm in favor of law.

01:28:31.000 You followed it a little bit more.

01:28:32.000 Are you in favor of law and order?

01:28:34.000 Whoa, what did he say? 0.92

01:28:35.000 You phony?

01:28:38.000 And the fact of the matter is, violent crime went down 17%, 15% in our administration.

01:28:47.000 Ours has gone up on his watch.

01:28:49.000 It went down much more than ours.

01:28:52.000 It went down much more under Donald Trump until Black Lives Matter, COVID. 0.56

01:28:56.000 And you can actually look at that spike entirely due to leftist cities.

01:29:00.000 Uh, San Francisco saw a 100% increase.

01:29:03.000 Was it in murder, rape, or violent crime?

01:29:05.000 New York saw several hundred percent increase in violent crime, murder, rape, arson.

01:29:10.000 So, yeah, you know, it's one of those things that it does matter.

01:29:13.000 It does matter because you know, this is where...

01:29:15.000 Right.

01:29:15.000 Americans need to understand there's constitutional authority, there are roles of the federal government,

01:29:20.000 and then there are roles of the state government.

01:29:22.000 And the president cannot, and he's respected those boundaries by not sitting in the National

01:29:26.000 Guard unless by request.

01:29:28.000 But if you look at these states and you look at these cities, Portland, New York, DC, New

01:29:34.000 Detroit.

01:29:34.000 Seattle.

01:29:35.000 All of these major cities.

01:29:36.000 Chicago.

01:29:36.000 Where these protests have gotten increasingly violent.

01:29:38.000 These are under democratic rule, where they refuse to enforce law and order, and you have seen several hundred percent increase in violent crimes.

01:29:47.000 Similarly, Bill Clinton tried to claim that he was the one who oversaw a reduction in crime, although he kind of had to play both sides of the fence because he tried to push the assault weapons ban, implying that there was increased crime.

01:29:56.000 But violent crime went down under Bill Clinton.

01:29:57.000 It is almost entirely attributable, I think it was two-thirds or at least one-third, just to Giuliani in New York City.

01:30:03.000 Exactly.

01:30:04.000 But he'll take credit for it.

01:30:07.000 I was raised in the suburbs.

01:30:09.000 This is not 1950.

01:30:11.000 All these dog whistles on racism don't work anymore.

01:30:14.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:30:15.000 Oh my god!

01:30:15.000 Is this a BuzzFeed Boldly video?

01:30:19.000 I expect Joe Biden to unzip himself and be like, ah, it's just me, a random fat bitch! 0.96

01:30:24.000 This is surprising to me, because even though he's trying to not be pinned on policies, Joe Biden, you can see his rhetoric is increasingly social justice oriented. 0.98

01:30:38.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:30:39.000 Very much so.

01:30:40.000 I do want to talk about this issue of law and order, though.

01:30:42.000 No, the suburbs are in trouble because of protesters.

01:30:44.000 Let's be honest, the suburbs aren't in trouble yet because they're well armed.

01:30:48.000 That's true.

01:30:49.000 You talked about, quote, reimagining policing.

01:30:54.000 First of all, what does reimagining policing mean and do you support it?

01:30:58.000 I have no idea.

01:30:59.000 I was listening to a lot of John Lennon.

01:31:01.000 This is the question I wanted.

01:31:03.000 Do you support the Black Lives Matter call for community control of policing?

01:31:12.000 Look, what I support is the police having the opportunity to deal with the problems

01:31:17.000 they face.

01:31:18.000 And I'm not totally opposed to defunding the police officers.

01:31:23.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:31:23.000 Local police. 0.71

01:31:24.000 You say I'm not, Frank?

01:31:24.000 Not totally opposed?

01:31:26.000 You say I'm not totally opposed or we're not at work with you?

01:31:30.000 You can't know! 0.85

01:31:31.000 He's an old circus monkey! 0.75

01:31:32.000 He said not. 0.76

01:31:32.000 They even show up for a 9-11 call to have someone with them as a psychologist or psychiatrist to keep them from having to use force and be able to talk people down. 0.76

01:31:41.000 Yeah, one of the examples, Jacob Blake, where they showed up and the guy was chasing a cop with a knife.

01:31:45.000 Can you imagine if a social worker who wanted to ask him about his relationship with his mother would have handled it?

01:31:50.000 Let's just talk for a minute, okay?

01:31:52.000 Let's talk.

01:31:53.000 He's talking about defunding the police.

01:31:55.000 That is not true.

01:31:55.000 He doesn't have any law.

01:32:00.000 He has no law enforcement support.

01:32:03.000 That's not true.

01:32:04.000 Almost nothing.

01:32:05.000 That is absolutely true.

01:32:06.000 That is statistically verifiable.

01:32:08.000 Name one group that came out and supported you.

01:32:10.000 Go ahead.

01:32:11.000 We have time.

01:32:15.000 Name one law enforcement group that came out and said... I think I'm going to take back the money.

01:32:22.000 And I want to get to another subject, which is the issue of protests.

01:32:25.000 You see, Joe Biden just literally hung his head.

01:32:27.000 He did. 0.96

01:32:28.000 Like a dad who was disappointed who just walked in on his teenager watching porn.

01:32:31.000 Only it's himself. 0.98

01:32:32.000 Gerald Morgan porn. 0.99

01:32:32.000 talking about his teenager watching porn. 0.99

01:32:33.000 No!

01:32:34.000 Which I think you would agree, you're talking about people who protest.

01:32:36.000 Only it's himself, Gerald Morgan porn.

01:32:38.000 No! There is not. 0.97

01:32:40.000 Vice President, you say that people who commit crimes should be held accountable.

01:32:46.000 The question I have, though, is, as the Democratic nominee, and earlier tonight you said that you are the Democratic Party right now, have you ever called the Democratic governor of Oregon and said, Hey, you gotta stop this.

01:33:00.000 Bring in the National Guard.

01:33:01.000 Great question.

01:33:02.000 Do whatever it takes to stop the days and months of violence. 0.90

01:33:06.000 You're better suited going into Oregon and saying, bring out your dead.

01:33:10.000 I am a former vice president.

01:33:12.000 I've made it clear.

01:33:13.000 I've made it clear in my public statements.

01:33:15.000 The answer is no.

01:33:16.000 That the violence should be prosecuted.

01:33:18.000 It should be prosecuted.

01:33:19.000 And anyone who commits it should be prosecuted.

01:33:21.000 But you've never called for the people, the leaders.

01:33:22.000 Excuse me, sir.

01:33:24.000 You have never called for the leaders.

01:33:25.000 Chris Wallace is doing a good job today.

01:33:26.000 He's doing a pretty good job.

01:33:28.000 They're not taking care of it!

01:33:29.000 Bring in the National Guard and knock off a hundred days of riots.

01:33:33.000 They can in fact take care of it if you just stay out of the way.

01:33:36.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:33:37.000 They're not taking care of it!

01:33:39.000 Look, over two billion dollars in damages, 30 people dead, over a thousand officer casualties,

01:33:46.000 14,000 arrests, and the only time they step up is because the Proud Boys want to drive

01:33:52.000 by in a couple of trucks with some American flags and maybe a couple of paintball guns,

01:33:57.000 That's just a good old-fashioned Saturday.

01:33:59.000 The point is here, they have done nothing.

01:34:02.000 Billions of dollars in damages.

01:34:04.000 You are talking about dozens of people dead.

01:34:07.000 If you are a black person in the United States right now and you're living in, and let's be honest, there aren't many in Seattle, but let's talk about Chicago.

01:34:15.000 Let's talk about New York and you are seeing your neighborhood destroyed. 0.61

01:34:18.000 If you're one of the 80 plus percent of black Americans who support at least as much police presence as now, if not more, which by the way is reflected in every single poll, you need to see right now you have a former vice president who by the way said he didn't want to support desegregation because he didn't want his kids being raised in a Racial jungle, according to Snopes, right now is saying, hey, let your shops be burnt down. 0.96

01:34:41.000 Let your David Dorns be shot. 0.97

01:34:43.000 Let your young children, let your schools be burned down to the ground. 0.98

01:34:47.000 Because we can't have Donald Trump step in and out.

01:34:49.000 We can't have the National Guard.

01:34:51.000 This will be fixed if the federal government stays out of it.

01:34:54.000 It is just like the exact opposite.

01:34:56.000 If you wanted to protect the most vulnerable among us with COVID, right?

01:34:58.000 The exact opposite of what you would do is quarantine the sick.

01:35:01.000 You would quarantine the healthy.

01:35:03.000 You would quarantine the sick.

01:35:04.000 You would quarantine old people. 1.00

01:35:06.000 You would quarantine sick people.

01:35:07.000 This is the exact opposite in the same sense that he doesn't understand the role of the federal government.

01:35:12.000 The role of the federal government is to step in when local government cannot keep its citizens, American citizens, safe from either external threats So he's willing to step into your state and tell you which kind of healthcare you have to purchase.

01:35:27.000 He's willing to step into your state and tell you which kind of a business you have to patron if you want to receive some kind of a tax break.

01:35:33.000 But he is not willing to have the federal government step in under its legitimate purview into a state where American citizens are dying and the police are overrun to help you, minority American citizens. 0.97

01:35:47.000 There you go.

01:35:48.000 This guy has no idea as to what the actual parameters of government are.

01:35:54.000 When there are no principles, you're seeing it fall apart tonight.

01:35:56.000 He cannot provide specific answers, and when he does, they're the opposite of what you have the authority to do.

01:36:03.000 If you want to say Donald Trump's an authoritarian, the guy on this stage Let me get this straight, and then we'll go back to the debates.

01:36:09.000 I'm sorry.

01:36:10.000 The guy on this stage we're supposed to believe is an authoritarian is the guy who, by Joe Biden's own accusations, lowered taxes, supported freedom of speech, employed more Americans, encouraged businesses, as opposed to actually just punishing or putting on tariffs, encouraged businesses to employ more Americans, encourages Americans to be able to exercise their Second Amendment rights, and is going to appoint a Supreme Court justice who will support those as well.

01:36:36.000 And has stayed out of- I lost count because of this wrap on my hand.

01:36:39.000 Ed has actually stayed out of these states where American citizens are dying and he would be well within his right to deploy the National Guard to some capacity of the American military in all its power until they ask for it.

01:36:51.000 That's the guy who's the authoritarian?

01:36:53.000 He's bad at it.

01:36:54.000 The guy who at every single turn has allowed you more freedom and more rights.

01:36:59.000 Sounds like a dictator.

01:37:00.000 Might be murky on the definition there.

01:37:03.000 The first thing dictators do is come in and lower that corporate tax rate and individual tax rate. 0.99

01:37:08.000 And have more freedoms guaranteed to all Americans.

01:37:11.000 I have a quick question for Joe Biden.

01:37:13.000 What exactly did President Trump do to get in the way?

01:37:16.000 You're saying that these states could handle the problem if he would just get out of the way.

01:37:19.000 What exactly did he do?

01:37:21.000 I'm just confused here!

01:37:21.000 for Chris Wallace, Gerald Simmons.

01:37:33.000 Let's go back to the space force and all of the other things.

01:37:36.000 A fixing of the the VA, which was a mess under him.

01:37:42.000 308,000 people died because they didn't have proper health care.

01:37:45.000 He was a mess.

01:37:46.000 And we now got a 91% approval rating at the VA.

01:37:50.000 Our vets, we take care of our vets.

01:37:52.000 But we've rebuilt our military, the job that we've done.

01:37:55.000 And I'll tell you some some people say maybe the most important.

01:37:58.000 By the end of the first term, I'll have approximately 300 federal judges and court of appeals judges, 300, and hopefully three great Supreme Court judges, justices.

01:38:10.000 That is a record.

01:38:12.000 I've never seen it.

01:38:13.000 Joe Biden's lips, there's no contrast between the rest of his face.

01:38:18.000 Yeah, I think it's all the same shape. 0.98

01:38:19.000 He's sucking all the blood from available places. 1.00

01:38:21.000 It's like Yoko Ono's ass horizontally on a face. 1.00

01:38:24.000 There's no action. 0.99

01:38:25.000 It's just a crack.

01:38:27.000 It's just a crevice.

01:38:28.000 The same stuff roughly.

01:38:29.000 Like if I were to go freehand mountain climbing, that's where I'd sort of leverage my knees.

01:38:34.000 That's a grab spot right there. 0.99

01:38:36.000 Right in the ass. 0.99

01:38:37.000 128 openings. 1.00

01:38:39.000 You can't be a good president.

01:38:41.000 You can't be a good vice president.

01:38:43.000 But I want to thank you because it gives us almost, it'll probably be above that number by the end of this term.

01:38:48.000 300 judges.

01:38:48.000 It's a record.

01:38:52.000 Looking at both your records, why should voters elect you president as opposed to President Trump?

01:38:58.000 You have two minutes uninterrupted.

01:38:59.000 Under this president we've become weaker, sicker, poorer, more divided, more vile.

01:39:06.000 We've become weaker with no major wars.

01:39:08.000 I think Donald Trump is the only president to not start a new armed conflict.

01:39:11.000 As opposed to you who are dropping drone strikes like a new mixtape.

01:39:16.000 And he caused a recession.

01:39:17.000 Oh really?

01:39:18.000 How did he cause it?

01:39:19.000 You claimed credit when he had the best economy ever!

01:39:23.000 You said that was the result of Obama, despite the fact that he never saw those unemployment rates or labor force participation rates in all eight years!

01:39:32.000 You guys tried to claim credit, and now you're saying he's to blame for the recession?

01:39:35.000 Okay, let's keep this in mind when the economy rebounds, and by the way, it's rebounded faster than anticipated because they were preparing for the debate with, worst case scenario, 12% unemployment going into the election.

01:39:47.000 It's already below nine!

01:39:49.000 We're poor.

01:39:49.000 He never keeps his word.

01:39:51.000 No, no, I'm not asking.

01:39:53.000 That was a rhetorical question.

01:39:55.000 Can you go back 30 seconds?

01:39:57.000 Yes, you may have.

01:39:59.000 So, thirdly, we're poor.

01:40:01.000 The billionaires have gotten much more wealthy by a tune of over $300-400 billion more.

01:40:09.000 You and your home, you got less.

01:40:10.000 You're in more trouble than you were before.

01:40:12.000 We don't need to fight for 15 anymore because more Americans make significantly more than 0.98

01:40:15.000 15 than ever in the United States.

01:40:23.000 He's President of the United States.

01:40:25.000 It's on his watch.

01:40:27.000 And with regard to more divided, the nation can't stay divided.

01:40:30.000 We can't be this way. 0.97

01:40:32.000 And speaking of my son, the way you talk about the military, the way you talk about them being losers and being... Oh my God! 0.84

01:40:42.000 This is a man who is running for office. 0.55

01:40:44.000 Keep in mind, people out there who say, well you know what, I'm not That's true.

01:40:47.000 I'm a social justice warrior, but I'm not a Republican.

01:40:50.000 I'm a classical liberal.

01:40:51.000 This is a guy who is reading Slate and Salon headlines.

01:40:54.000 The website that, by the way, repeatedly support pedophiles, Salon.com. 0.56

01:40:57.000 I'm a pedophile, but I'm not a monster. 0.98

01:40:59.000 They actually denigrated us because we said, if you're a pedophile, you're likely a monster. 0.97

01:41:03.000 These are the web... 0.88

01:41:04.000 He's reading headlines from these websites.

01:41:05.000 That's it.

01:41:06.000 Joe Biden right now. 0.99

01:41:07.000 There is no evidence that Donald Trump has ever called troops losers and suckers. 0.93

01:41:11.000 And there are over 10 accounts, including people who were in those rooms saying that's 0.94

01:41:15.000 absolutely untrue.

01:41:16.000 email verification that...

01:41:18.000 You can see screenshots right now that prove it was, the main story for this when it started, spurred it, was a weather event where he couldn't actually attend an event.

01:41:28.000 It's, it's, it's, Baldwin!

01:41:30.000 Baldwin wrote a whole book!

01:41:31.000 Taking a steaming dump on Trump and he even said, said like, you know, yeah, I don't have, I don't really have any integrity left, but I'm gonna try and save a shred of it.

01:41:38.000 That's not true.

01:41:39.000 I think he brought up Hunter.

01:41:40.000 He did.

01:41:45.000 We've already been through this.

01:41:46.000 I think the American people would rather hear about more substantial subjects.

01:41:50.000 Well, you know, as the moderator, sir, I'm going to make a judgment call here.

01:41:54.000 Why did he quit?

01:41:59.000 Mitt Romney on that committee said it wasn't worth taxpayers' money, that report.

01:42:05.000 It was written for political reasons.

01:42:07.000 I'd like to talk about climate change. 0.86

01:42:09.000 Mitt Romney's a wiener head and you know it. 0.82

01:42:11.000 Wait, climate change? 1.00

01:42:13.000 By the way, you also said Mitt Romney was racist back then, dipshit. 0.99

01:42:16.000 They have displaced hundreds of thousands of people. 0.98

01:42:20.000 When state officials there blamed the fires on climate change, Mr. President, you said, I don't think the science knows.

01:42:26.000 It's disgusting.

01:42:27.000 Over your four years, you have pulled the U.S.

01:42:30.000 out of the Paris Climate Accord.

01:42:32.000 You have rolled back a number of Obama Iron Medal You know what, I'm going to chase that skirt out of here and go to the bathroom. 1.00

01:42:38.000 You guys hold on.

01:42:40.000 Go, go, go.

01:42:41.000 I will stand up there.

01:42:44.000 Phil, get over there.

01:42:45.000 I want crystal clean water and air.

01:42:48.000 I want beautiful clean air.

01:42:49.000 We have now the lowest carbon.

01:42:51.000 If you look at our numbers right now, We are doing phenomenally.

01:42:55.000 But I haven't destroyed our businesses.

01:42:57.000 Our businesses aren't put out of commission.

01:42:59.000 Are you going to destroy business?

01:43:01.000 If you look at the Paris Accord, it was a disaster from our standpoint.

01:43:03.000 This is climate change, we have fires in California, which we've had since California was California.

01:43:07.000 Because our businesses are doing well.

01:43:09.000 As far as the fires are concerned?

01:43:11.000 You need forest management in addition to everything else.

01:43:14.000 The forest floors are loaded up with trees, dead trees that are years old and they're like tinder and leaves and everything else.

01:43:22.000 You drop a cigarette in there, the whole forest burns down.

01:43:25.000 You've got to have forest management.

01:43:26.000 What do you believe about the science of climate change?

01:43:31.000 I believe that we have to do everything we can to have immaculate air, immaculate water, and do whatever else we can that's good.

01:43:38.000 You know, we're planting a billion trees, the billion tree project.

01:43:41.000 That's a great answer.

01:43:42.000 Look, I gotta tell you, it's underserved how much pollution, gas, greenhouse gas emissions contributes to the global warming of this planet.

01:43:50.000 I think a lot of things do, but I think to an extent, yes.

01:43:52.000 I think to an extent, yes.

01:43:53.000 But I also think we have to do better management.

01:43:54.000 Of course, every year, I get the call, Because people that are out there want to get forest management under control. 0.88

01:44:05.000 Shut up, Bill.

01:44:05.000 Forest management, good forest management.

01:44:08.000 You wouldn't be getting those calls.

01:44:10.000 You know, in Europe, they live their forest cities.

01:44:12.000 They're called forest cities.

01:44:13.000 They maintain their forest.

01:44:15.000 They manage their forest.

01:44:17.000 I was with the head of a major country.

01:44:19.000 It's a forest city.

01:44:21.000 He said, sir, we have trees that are far more, they ignite much easier than California.

01:44:28.000 There shouldn't be that problem.

01:44:29.000 I spoke with the governor about it.

01:44:30.000 I'm getting along very well with the governor. 0.96

01:44:32.000 But I said, you know, it sucks for him. 0.99

01:44:34.000 They are the reason California is burning.

01:44:55.000 Why have you relaxed fuel economy standards that are going to create more pollution for cars?

01:45:02.000 It's not really because what's happening is the car is much less expensive and it's a much safer car.

01:45:07.000 And you're talking about a tiny difference.

01:45:09.000 You missed Trump owning Biden on the environment in California wildfires.

01:45:13.000 Double and triple the number of cars purchased.

01:45:16.000 We have the old slugs out there that are 10, 12 years old.

01:45:19.000 If you did that, the car would be safer, it would be much cheaper by $3,500.

01:45:23.000 But in the case of California, they've simply ignored your rollbacks.

01:45:25.000 No, but you would take a lot of cars off the market because people would be able to afford a car.

01:45:30.000 Now, so, and by the way, we're going to see how that turns out.

01:45:33.000 But a lot of people agree with me, many people.

01:45:35.000 The car has gotten so expensive because they have computers all over the place for an extra That's one of the drinking rules.

01:45:42.000 Don't die on the stream.

01:45:43.000 Thanks.

01:45:43.000 And I'm okay with electric cars too.

01:45:45.000 I'm all for electric cars.

01:45:47.000 I've given big incentives for electric cars.

01:45:49.000 But what they've done in California is just crazy.

01:45:52.000 Vice President Biden, I'd like you to respond to the President's climate change record, but I also want to ask you about a concern.

01:46:00.000 You proposed $2 trillion in green jobs.

01:46:03.000 You talk about new limits, not abolishing, but new limits on fracking, ending the use of fossil fuels to generate electricity by 2035, and zero net emission of greenhouse gases by 2050.

01:46:16.000 The President says a lot of these things would tank the economy and cost millions of jobs.

01:46:21.000 He's absolutely wrong, number one.

01:46:23.000 Number two, if in fact, when, during our administration, the Recovery Act, I was able to, I was in charge, able to bring down the cost of renewable energy to cheaper than or as cheap as coal and gas and oil.

01:46:37.000 Nobody's going to build another coal-fired plant in America.

01:46:41.000 No one's going to build another one.

01:46:42.000 We subsidize it.

01:46:43.000 We subsidize it.

01:46:44.000 Solar and wind, the American taxpayers, Diane.

01:46:47.000 Number two, we're going to make sure that All the while vilifying nuclear, probably our most

01:46:51.000 affordable and really realistic renewable option.

01:46:57.000 500,000 charging stations and all of the highways that we're going to be building in

01:47:02.000 the future.

01:47:03.000 We're going to build an economy that in fact is going to provide for the ability of us

01:47:08.000 to take 4 million buildings and make sure that they in fact are weatherized in a way

01:47:13.000 that in fact will make significantly less.

01:47:17.000 Take everything that he just mentioned, it's not even close to what Elon Musk can do as

01:47:22.000 far as charging stations, as far as infrastructure, as far as spearheading the market, as far

01:47:27.000 as innovation.

01:47:28.000 What you need is a president who steps out of the way for more proof.

01:47:32.000 Who's the leader in the electric car space right now?

01:47:35.000 Uh, it's gotta be Tesla.

01:47:36.000 Oh, Trumps.

01:47:36.000 something yeah something based with Tesla. It moved their factory from California to

01:47:41.000 Texas because California is a little petri dish and Biden's policies in Texas is a little

01:47:48.000 petri dish. Look at Trump. It's that simple.

01:47:53.000 America leads electric and America leads electric because of the policies of Donald Trump.

01:47:58.000 Elon Musk, I don't even know what he is. Is he South African? Is he Swedish? I don't know

01:48:05.000 whether to ask him at a par site or have him build my furniture.

01:48:07.000 ...in every bit of carbon that's emitted in the United States.

01:48:10.000 Instead of doing something about that, I would be gathering up and making sure we had the countries of the world coming up with $20 billion say, here's $20 billion.

01:48:19.000 Stop, stop tearing down the forest.

01:48:24.000 And if you don't, then you're going to have significant economic consequences.

01:48:27.000 Dimension moment.

01:48:28.000 He just watched Ferngully.

01:48:28.000 What about the argument that President Trump basically says that you have to balance Well, he hasn't drawn a line.

01:48:39.000 He still, for example, wants to make sure that methane's not a problem.

01:48:45.000 You can now emit more methane without it being a problem.

01:48:48.000 This is a guy who says that you don't have to have mileage standards for automobiles that exist now.

01:48:53.000 This is a guy who says that Well, the fact is, it's all true.

01:48:59.000 Talking about the Green New Deal, and it's not $2 billion or $20 billion, as you said.

01:49:03.000 It's $100 trillion.

01:49:06.000 I'm talking about- Where they want to rip down buildings and rebuild the building. 0.99

01:49:11.000 It's the dumbest, most ridiculous, where airplanes are out of business, where two car systems are out, where they want to take out the cows too. 0.98

01:49:19.000 You know, that's not true either, right? 1.00

01:49:21.000 Not true.

01:49:22.000 This is a one hundred... That's more money than our country could make in a hundred years if we're going by the case.

01:49:30.000 Let me, let me, let me... Because I actually... Wait a minute.

01:49:32.000 I've never seen any presidential candidate give four specifics.

01:49:36.000 And it includes upgrading four million buildings, weatherizing two million homes over four years.

01:49:42.000 Building one and a half million energy efficient homes.

01:49:46.000 So the question becomes, the president is saying, I think some people who support the president would say that sounds like it's going to cost a lot of money and hurt the economy.

01:49:55.000 What it's going to do is it's going to create thousands and millions of jobs.

01:49:59.000 Let him finish, sir.

01:50:01.000 He doesn't know how to do that.

01:50:03.000 The fact is it's going to create millions of good-paying jobs and these tax incentives for people to weatherize, which he wants to get rid of.

01:50:12.000 that to me.

01:50:13.000 It's going to make the economy much safer.

01:50:14.000 Look how much we pay now to deal with hurricane.

01:50:15.000 The entire evening has been one giant hurricane.

01:50:16.000 By the way, he has an answer for her, okay?

01:50:17.000 He said, maybe we should drop the nuclear war on the Earth.

01:50:18.000 I'm surprised he didn't just say, you're right.

01:50:19.000 I never said that.

01:50:20.000 He did say it.

01:50:21.000 You made it up.

01:50:22.000 And we're going to be in a position where we can create hard, hard, good jobs.

01:50:23.000 I don't know if this will play well with the rest of the country, but I'm enjoying it.

01:50:24.000 Making sure the environment is clean and we all are in better shape.

01:50:25.000 By the way, bring up the game rules again so people can see it.

01:50:26.000 We spend billions of dollars now, billions of dollars.

01:50:27.000 We spend billions of dollars on the nuclear program.

01:50:28.000 We spend billions of dollars on the nuclear program.

01:50:45.000 We're in real trouble.

01:50:46.000 Look what's happened just in the Midwest with these storms that come through and wipe out entire sections of the counties.

01:50:51.000 You mean the Midwest where we have record crop yields, the most temperate climates we've ever had, and the highest Great Lake levels in a century.

01:50:59.000 Is that what you mean?

01:51:01.000 Which, by the way, in 2017 you said would be gone.

01:51:03.000 You said that they would be gone by the year 2025.

01:51:05.000 You said that you would have to have actually 20 years of heavy rainfall for the Great Lakes just to return to normal levels and instead we have record high Great Lakes.

01:51:11.000 That was your administration.

01:51:12.000 They just crammed the 20 years into two.

01:51:14.000 That's what he's asking right here. 1.00

01:51:15.000 And also, cherries are the asshole of the fruit world. 0.97

01:51:18.000 They're very, very difficult to yield, and we're dumping record cherries in Michigan. 0.98

01:51:23.000 Because of our record crop yield.

01:51:24.000 To fix the crisis, you know.

01:51:26.000 October 2nd, I'll be in Lansing.

01:51:26.000 Thank you, Governor Whitmer.

01:51:28.000 Stay capital.

01:51:29.000 He made a statement about the military.

01:51:35.000 He said I said something about the military.

01:51:38.000 He and his friends made it up and then they went with it.

01:51:40.000 I never said it. 1.00

01:51:41.000 What he did was he said, he called the military stupid bastards. He said stupid bastards. I would never say that 1.00

01:51:50.000 to a doctor. The difference is his accusation is actually true. It's on tape. The final question is, I can't remember

01:51:59.000 which of all of them. I can't remember. I'm in trouble myself.

01:52:05.000 A Freudian slip was never so slippery.

01:52:07.000 The Green New Deal will pay for itself as we move forward. 0.94

01:52:09.000 He is doubling down to support the Green New Deal.

01:52:12.000 For those who haven't seen it, watch the video where I read the entire Green New Deal.

01:52:16.000 will pay for itself as we move forward.

01:52:19.000 Oh my god, he is doubling down on supporting the Green New Deal.

01:52:21.000 For those who haven't seen it, watch the video where I read the entire Green New Deal.

01:52:26.000 It's five pages.

01:52:28.000 It's five pages, and it gives the government control over everything.

01:52:34.000 It includes the words social justice in there.

01:52:38.000 And, by the way, social justice.

01:52:39.000 Wait, what does that mean?

01:52:40.000 Oh, we only had five pages to write this.

01:52:43.000 You cannot be a moderate liberal.

01:52:45.000 You cannot be someone who says, I'm a classical liberal and vote for a man who supports the Green New Deal.

01:52:50.000 That reads like a Slate article.

01:52:53.000 Really, the shortened version, because it's only five pages.

01:52:57.000 And what are you prepared to do over the next five plus weeks, because it'll not only be to election day, but also counting some ballots, mail-in ballots after election day.

01:53:09.000 What are you prepared to do to reassure the American people that the next president will be the legitimate winner of this election in this final... Well, how about you call out that guy in Texas, Joe Biden, who was one of the 137 charges brought for massive voter fraud.

01:53:24.000 One of them worked for the Biden campaign, yikes.

01:53:26.000 What means by which they're going to vote?

01:53:28.000 His own Homeland Security director, as well as the FBI director, says there is no evidence

01:53:33.000 at all that mail-in ballots are a source of being manipulated and cheating.

01:53:38.000 They said- Project Veritas.

01:53:40.000 Except for Georgia, New Jersey, Michigan, New York, California, Pennsylvania, and Texas,

01:53:47.000 all of which have been verified by a court of law, a judge's order, or an unbiased state

01:53:52.000 governing election committee.

01:53:55.000 We did a whole segment on it. 1.00

01:53:56.000 I don't want to interrupt him, but it's bullshit. 0.99

01:53:57.000 Make sure you can socially distance. 0.98

01:54:00.000 The polls are open on time, and the polls stay open until the votes are counted.

01:54:04.000 And this is all about trying to- Six weeks after election?

01:54:06.000 Yeah.

01:54:07.000 Because he's trying to scare people into thinking that it's not going to be legitimate.

01:54:13.000 Show up and vote.

01:54:15.000 You will determine the outcome of this election.

01:54:18.000 Vote, vote, vote.

01:54:19.000 If you're able to vote early in your state, vote early.

01:54:22.000 If you're able to vote in person, vote in person.

01:54:25.000 Vote whatever way is the best way for you.

01:54:28.000 Because you will not stop you from being able to determine the outcome of this election.

01:54:35.000 Hey, and don't forget, after this we're going to be taking some questions.

01:54:40.000 I gotta tell you, the biggest questions I have, it's not necessarily who won this debate, but did you hear a single plank on any kind of platform on any issue from Joe Biden other than, I hate this guy over here?

01:54:51.000 I heard you say a single plank?

01:54:53.000 Yeah, a plank on the platform that you're talking about.

01:54:56.000 Oh, a plank on the platform.

01:54:57.000 Just make sure you understand, you have it in your control to determine what this country is going to look like in the next four years.

01:55:05.000 Is it going to change or are you going to form more years of these lies?

01:55:09.000 Mr. President, two minutes.

01:55:11.000 So when I listened to Joe talking about a transition, there's been no transition from when I won.

01:55:18.000 I won that election.

01:55:19.000 And if you look at crooked Hillary Clinton, if you look at all of the different people, there was no transition because they came after me trying to do a coup. 1.00

01:55:28.000 They came after me spying on my campaign.

01:55:30.000 They started from the day I won and even before I won, from the day I came down the escalator with our first lady.

01:55:36.000 We're a disaster.

01:55:37.000 They were a disgrace to our country. 0.96

01:55:39.000 And we've caught them.

01:55:40.000 We've caught them all.

01:55:42.000 We've got it all on tape.

01:55:43.000 We've caught them all.

01:55:44.000 And by the way, you gave the idea for the Logan Act against General.

01:55:47.000 You better take a look at that.

01:55:50.000 And President Obama was sitting in the office.

01:55:52.000 He knew about it, too.

01:55:53.000 So don't tell me about a free transition.

01:55:56.000 As far as the ballots are concerned, it's a disaster.

01:55:59.000 A solicited ballot.

01:56:02.000 Okay, solicited is okay.

01:56:04.000 You're soliciting, you're asking, they send it back, you send it back.

01:56:07.000 I did that.

01:56:08.000 If you have an unsolicited, they're sending millions of ballots all over the country.

01:56:13.000 There's fraud.

01:56:14.000 They found them in creeks.

01:56:15.000 They found some with the name Trump, just happened to have the name Trump just the other day in a waste paper basket.

01:56:21.000 They're being sent all over the place.

01:56:23.000 They sent two in a Democrat area.

01:56:25.000 They sent out 1,000 ballots.

01:56:26.000 Everybody got two ballots.

01:56:28.000 This is going to be a fraud like you've never seen.

01:56:31.000 The other thing.

01:56:32.000 It's nice, on November 3rd, you're watching, and you see who won the election.

01:56:36.000 And I think we're gonna do well, because people are really happy with the job we've done.

01:56:40.000 But you know what?

01:56:41.000 We might not know for months, because these ballots are gonna be all over.

01:56:41.000 We won't know.

01:56:45.000 Take a look at what happened in Manhattan.

01:56:47.000 That was a flurry of facts.

01:56:47.000 Yeah, amazing.

01:56:48.000 Take a look at what happened in New Jersey.

01:56:49.000 Take a look at what happened in Virginia and other places.

01:56:52.000 They're not losing 2%, 1%, which, by the way, is too much.

01:56:55.000 In fact, Virginia is one of the states.

01:56:56.000 You're losing 30% and 40%.

01:56:59.000 It's a fraud.

01:57:00.000 And it's a shame.

01:57:02.000 And can you imagine where they say, you have to have your ballot in by November 10th.

01:57:07.000 November 10th.

01:57:08.000 That means that's seven days after the election, in theory, should have been announced.

01:57:14.000 We have major states with that.

01:57:16.000 All run by Democrats.

01:57:19.000 President Trump, you're going to be able to continue.

01:57:23.000 You have been charging for months that mail-in balloting is going to be a disaster.

01:57:27.000 You say it's rigged, that it's going to lead to fraud.

01:57:30.000 And there's fraud and also a system that is incompetent and ill-equipped to deal with it.

01:57:36.000 One, we already have verifiable evidence to the tune of tens of thousands of fraud and one to the tune of millions.

01:57:43.000 Let's be clear.

01:57:45.000 42 million unsolicited ballots will be sent out to Americans that cannot be verified, that cannot be counted in time for election.

01:57:52.000 That has never happened.

01:57:54.000 Two issues.

01:57:55.000 Fraud and incompetence.

01:57:57.000 Both.

01:57:57.000 And I just realized I put up three.

01:58:01.000 in terms of the election itself.

01:58:03.000 But for the ballots, I think so.

01:58:05.000 Because what's happening is incredible.

01:58:07.000 I just heard, I read today, where at least 1% of the ballots for 2016 were invalidated.

01:58:15.000 They take them, we don't like them, we don't like them.

01:58:16.000 They throw them out left and right.

01:58:17.000 But what are you gonna do about it if there are millions of ballots going out right now?

01:58:18.000 He's a man of the market.

01:58:19.000 What you do is you don't vote.

01:58:20.000 You go and vote.

01:58:21.000 We don't like him.

01:58:22.000 A solicited ballot.

01:58:23.000 That's okay.

01:58:24.000 Or you go and vote.

01:58:25.000 I'm asking you about the fact that millions of people have received.

01:58:26.000 You go and vote.

01:58:27.000 You go and vote.

01:58:28.000 No, but what I'm saying is, what are you going to do about the fact that millions of people

01:58:31.000 You either do, Chris, a solicited ballot where you're sending it in, they're sending it back,

01:58:36.000 and you're sending.

01:58:37.000 They have mailmen with lots of additional.

01:58:39.000 Did you see what's going on?

01:58:40.000 Take a look at West Virginia mailman selling the ballots.

01:58:43.000 They're being sold.

01:58:44.000 They're being dumped in rivers.

01:58:46.000 This is a horrible thing for our country.

01:58:48.000 There is no, this is not, there is no, this is not going to end well.

01:58:52.000 Five states had mail-in ballots for the last Decade or more.

01:58:59.000 Five.

01:59:00.000 Including two Republican states.

01:59:02.000 And you don't have to solicit the ballot.

01:59:04.000 It's sent to you.

01:59:05.000 It's sent to your home.

01:59:06.000 What we're saying is... That's the problem!

01:59:06.000 It's true.

01:59:09.000 Even if you don't live there!

01:59:11.000 So what you're saying is that in a pandemic we can just go ahead, we can barely get essential services done, but we can create an entirely new system in states that have never done it, and there won't be a problem in one of the most important elections in our history?

01:59:23.000 It's disingenuous.

01:59:24.000 Speaking of home, it's about time for you to get back to it, Joe.

01:59:26.000 The home?

01:59:28.000 Vice President Biden, the biggest problem, in fact, over the years with mail-in voting has not been fraud, historically.

01:59:35.000 It has been that sizable number, sometimes hundreds of thousands of ballots are thrown out because they have not been properly filled out.

01:59:43.000 No, no, no, no.

01:59:44.000 So let's go through fraud.

01:59:44.000 800,000 in 2008.

01:59:45.000 Michigan fraud, 848 ballots.

01:59:47.000 Pennsylvania just had recently nine ballots.

01:59:49.000 134 felony charges brought in Texas.

01:59:52.000 In Georgia, over 1,000 residents voted twice.

01:59:54.000 In New Jersey, a judge even ruled and ordered a new election because a sitting city councilman engaged in election fraud by over 800 votes that couldn't be counted.

02:00:02.000 In California, more than 100,000 ballots rejected.

02:00:05.000 27,000 of them because signatures were not included or did not match, meaning fraudulent.

02:00:10.000 New York, 100,000 Brooklyn voters received return envelopes with the wrong return address in Virginia.

02:00:15.000 a thousand some voters who voted twice. That's not including any of the

02:00:20.000 incompetence which is to the tune of millions. That's just the active

02:00:23.000 outright fraud by the way in almost all scenarios on behalf of the Democratic Party.

02:00:28.000 3.9 million people requested ballots and 08 did not receive them.

02:00:32.000 3.9 million.

02:00:34.000 You know it can't be.

02:00:35.000 MIT study.

02:00:36.000 All right.

02:00:37.000 So now, ladies and gentlemen, the final question is, in eight states, we can keep talking.

02:00:43.000 In eight states, election workers are prohibited, currently by law, eight states, from even

02:00:50.000 beginning to process ballots.

02:00:52.000 ballots, even take them out of the envelopes and flatten them until election day.

02:00:56.000 That means that it's likely, because there's going to be a huge increase in mail-in balloting,

02:01:02.000 that we are not going to know on election night who the winner is, that it could be

02:01:06.000 days, it could be weeks, it could be months, until we find out who the new president is.

02:01:11.000 So I, first for you, sir.

02:01:13.000 Finally, for the vice president.

02:01:15.000 I hope neither of you will interrupt the other.

02:01:16.000 Will you urge your supporters to stay calm during this extended period, not to engage in any civil unrest, and will you pledge tonight that you will not declare victory until the election has been independently certified?

02:01:33.000 President Trump, you go first.

02:01:34.000 I'm urging my supporters to go into the polls and watch very carefully, because that's what has to happen.

02:01:41.000 I am urging them to do it.

02:01:43.000 As you know, today there was a big problem.

02:01:45.000 In Philadelphia, they went in to watch.

02:01:47.000 They were called poll watchers, a very safe, very nice thing.

02:01:50.000 They were thrown out.

02:01:51.000 They weren't allowed to watch.

02:01:53.000 You know why?

02:01:53.000 Cuz bad things happen in Philadelphia, bad things.

02:01:57.000 And I am urging I hope it's going to be a fair election.

02:02:01.000 If it's a fair election, I'm 100% on board.

02:02:04.000 But if I see tens of thousands of ballots being manipulated, I can't go along with that.

02:02:10.000 And I'll tell you what, from a common sense, I'll tell you what it means.

02:02:13.000 It means you have a fraudulent election.

02:02:16.000 You're sending out 80 million ballots.

02:02:18.000 They're not equipped to...

02:02:19.000 These people aren't equipped to handle it, number one.

02:02:22.000 Number two, they cheat.

02:02:24.000 They cheat.

02:02:25.000 Hey, they found ballots in a waste paper basket three days ago, and they all had the name military ballots.

02:02:31.000 They were military.

02:02:32.000 They all had the name Trump on them.

02:02:34.000 You think that's good?

02:02:36.000 Vice President Biden, final question for you.

02:02:38.000 Will you urge your supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted?

02:02:42.000 And will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?

02:02:47.000 It's called a lack of stamina, Steven.

02:02:49.000 It's called the dopamine reuptake inhibitors.

02:02:52.000 Some of these ballots in some states can't even be opened until Election Day.

02:02:56.000 And if there's thousands of ballots, it's going to take time to do it.

02:02:59.000 And by the way, our military, they've been voting by ballots since the end of the Civil War.

02:03:05.000 And that's what's going to happen.

02:03:06.000 And that's what's gonna happen.

02:03:08.000 Why was it not, why is it for them somehow not fraudulent?

02:03:13.000 It's the same process.

02:03:14.000 Because they've had a system in place for decades because they're off fighting battles overseas.

02:03:20.000 Fraud related to mail-in ballots.

02:03:23.000 That somehow it's a fraudulent process.

02:03:25.000 It's already been established.

02:03:27.000 Look, this is a perfect moment.

02:03:31.000 For everyone who's going to be, for all our Blaze Mug Club members who are going to be here afterwards, this is the question I'm most curious to have you talk about in the chat that we can get to when we get to that live chat, is which is the question that each candidate answered worse?

02:03:46.000 That you have, having heard the answers, heard the analysis, and I want you to say not just about Trump, but also Biden as well.

02:03:52.000 Do both, because there are more debates to come.

02:03:54.000 I'm curious to hear what we see in the chat.

02:03:56.000 I'll be president for Democrats and Republicans.

02:03:58.000 And this guy, I want to see an honest ballot count.

02:04:01.000 I want to see an honest ballot count.

02:04:02.000 You say that's the end of it?

02:04:03.000 This is the end of this debate?

02:04:04.000 I want to see an honest ballot count.

02:04:05.000 And I think he does too.

02:04:08.000 To be continued in more debates as we go on.

02:04:12.000 President Trump, Vice President Biden, I want to thank you both.

02:04:18.000 They overpower the pizza!

02:04:21.000 It's all you can taste!

02:04:23.000 Get that olive branch out of my face! 1.00

02:04:25.000 Stop ruining comedy, Gerald.

02:04:26.000 I'll do what I can.

02:04:27.000 do what I can. Love you Gerald.

02:04:34.000 I'm a big fan of the news. I'm a big fan of the news. I'm a big fan of the news. I'm a

02:04:41.000 big fan of the news. I'm a big fan of the news. I'm a big fan of the news. I'm a big

02:04:48.000 fan of the news. I'm a big fan of the news. I'm a big fan of the news. I'm a big fan of

02:04:54.000 So if you want to see the real DNC president, the currently nominated president, you watch the VP debates.

02:05:03.000 It's a little bit confusing with the rulebook, but then again, so is mail-in voting.

02:05:07.000 So Stephen, I'm curious, your hot take right after having seen, you know, gone through this debate, seen that first 90 minutes.

02:05:15.000 I will say this, you're a fantastic lawyer, you have a lot of good qualities, but if you use the phrase hot take again, you will be replaced with a Jew with a lot of vowels in his last name. 0.90

02:05:23.000 Look, fine.

02:05:28.000 I will say this, I don't know how well this will play with the American people because Donald Trump was being a little bit what people might expect, being a little bombastic, interrupting, but it is remarkable to me that Joe Biden has not answered in any specifics, but that's the luxury of not having any accountability as a DNC candidate.

02:05:45.000 The media won't call him on not answering with specifics.

02:05:47.000 The media wants to make this a popularity contest and so you will see them say Donald Trump had no No sense of decorum, but they won't really call Joe Biden to the mat for being as nonspecific as possible outside of, crazily enough, the Green New Deal.

02:06:04.000 That's kind of the one thing, that tells you who's pulling the strings in the Democratic Party.

02:06:07.000 It's the one sort of policy that no one would fault you for running away from.

02:06:12.000 I mean, it's the thing we talked about earlier.

02:06:14.000 He's got to move somewhere to the middle to find these folks who want to do a reasonable plan, and yet here he's talking about a five-page wishing well of ideas that no one can afford, that would destroy the American economy, and yet of all the things that he chose to memorize, it was that?

02:06:29.000 It was all social justice headlines.

02:06:31.000 Every single one of his points was a social justice headline.

02:06:34.000 I think someone told Joe Biden that there's no enthusiasm from his base and so he needs to appeal to the far left.

02:06:39.000 Because this is unprecedented.

02:06:41.000 I said at the beginning, and I stand corrected, that Democrats have had to run to the center in national debates.

02:06:47.000 Contrast this with Hillary Clinton.

02:06:49.000 Contrast this with John Kerry.

02:06:50.000 Contrast this with Al Gore.

02:06:52.000 When they were in a general election, they said, no, no, that's just fear-mongering.

02:06:56.000 Of course, I don't want to take your guns away.

02:06:58.000 Of course, I want the average American to pay less in taxes.

02:07:01.000 Of course, I believe that businesses... But in this case, we had a candidate who basically read headlines.

02:07:07.000 Joe Biden from Slate, from Salon, from Huffington Post, and outright defended, doubled down on the Green New Deal, which is as far left...

02:07:16.000 Am I out of line in saying that the Green New Deal is as far left of a policy proposal as has ever been presented in the United States?

02:07:25.000 By a major candidate?

02:07:27.000 Other than the weather underground?

02:07:29.000 I mean, it's insane to me that a major party candidate would come out and say they're so in favor of it when knowing that folks on both sides of the aisle know that the Green New Deal is unrealistic, it hurts working Americans, It hurts every single person talked about.

02:07:45.000 Nothing is more non-discriminatory in the way that it hurts the American economy than the Green New Deal. 0.97

02:07:50.000 Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right.

02:07:52.000 And ironically, it hurts black Americans more.

02:07:55.000 Because again, these people don't understand when he says, look, we're going to create more charging stations.

02:07:59.000 Think about this for a second.

02:08:00.000 Joe Biden was saying that if you elect me, you'll have more electric car charging stations.

02:08:07.000 Whereas the leading voice in all of electric vehicles, Elon Musk, moved his factory from California to Texas because they wouldn't allow him to create cars, or charging stations, and work!

02:08:22.000 There really is a diametric opposition between what Joe Biden thinks and reality, and every single solution proposed by Joe Biden involves, hey, I'll take care of you, I'll create more charging stations, I'll make sure That, you know, the government ensures safety and security and healthcare and guarantees that you have access to health, whereas Donald Trump is saying, you know what, I'm going to make sure that you have choices.

02:08:49.000 I'm going to make sure that your bosses have choices.

02:08:52.000 I'm going to put more money back in your pocket.

02:08:54.000 I'm going to make sure that Elon Musk has more money in his company and the freedom to not be shut down because of an exaggerated cough.

02:09:02.000 And people will say, hold on a second, I don't want this to be fact-checked on YouTube.

02:09:06.000 For people under the age of 50, it is a death rate with COVID very comparable to the flu.

02:09:13.000 Certainly more so than the initially projected mortality rate of 1 to 4 to 7 percent.

02:09:19.000 Two million Americans dead outside of, of course, states like New York and Michigan, where that is a death rate because they sent young sick patients into senior living facilities. 0.64

02:09:29.000 What you're forgetting is that if you're in poverty in America right now, the number one concern you have is where your next charging station is going to be put in.

02:09:39.000 That's how out of touch we are, right?

02:09:42.000 When you have no car to charge in the first place, it's nice to see a station for the day you do get one!

02:09:47.000 Well, when your Walgreens has been burned down, what are you going to do with your Model S?

02:09:52.000 I gotta say that I gotta issue a correction on something I said earlier because earlier

02:09:56.000 before the debate, Gerald said that he thought that it would be better for the president

02:09:59.000 to go in a certain way and kind of let Joe Biden hang himself on his own speech.

02:10:05.000 And I was disappointed that the president, I didn't think that the president did worse

02:10:09.000 than I expected, but I was hopeful that he would allow Joe to get out there and just

02:10:13.000 hang himself with his own words.

02:10:14.000 And any time Joe got a head of steam going, it was like, wow, this guy has no idea what

02:10:19.000 he's talking about.

02:10:20.000 But I will say I was shocked that the more names called in this entire debate was by 0.98

02:10:27.000 Joe was the one who really sucked. 0.99

02:10:28.000 This clown over here, I'm sorry, uh, not clown. 0.99

02:10:31.000 He wasn't even clever enough to come up with another name. 0.93

02:10:33.000 Like, I'm sorry, esteemed colleague. 0.96

02:10:35.000 He was like, this clown over here, I'm sorry, uh... 0.88

02:10:40.000 Notes! 0.98

02:10:43.000 Line!

02:10:43.000 It destroys the narrative that Donald Trump is the only president who at times acts non-presidential.

02:10:50.000 And we'll all agree, at times he does act unlike other presidents.

02:10:53.000 But then if you're going to go ahead and say, wow, Biden, he's amazing.

02:10:57.000 He always keeps his cool.

02:10:58.000 He never calls names at anyone.

02:11:00.000 We've seen it on the campaign trail and we saw it on a debate.

02:11:03.000 This was the one moment that Biden had to make sure he stayed on his game and he couldn't do it.

02:11:07.000 And you were right, Stephen.

02:11:08.000 Along the way, it kept getting worse and worse and worse.

02:11:10.000 I want to go to our closing thoughts here for people who are Mug Club members. 0.99

02:11:14.000 Thank God the stream was not shut down tonight.

02:11:16.000 Final word for you guys.

02:11:18.000 October 2nd, this Friday, in Lansing, Michigan, at the State Capitol.

02:11:23.000 I will be there with some exclusive information and a presentation there for the many of you who are showing up regarding Governor Whitmer and the death toll of seniors and how you've been misled.

02:11:34.000 So this is something, again, because We've been told, or we've been portrayed as Republicans, as conservatives, that we don't care about the most vulnerable.

02:11:40.000 Actually, Governor Whitmer, it's these states, Governor Cuomo, they don't care about the most vulnerable among you.

02:11:45.000 They have proactively enacted policies that have resulted in thousands of deaths.

02:11:50.000 Verifiably, observably, and we'll go through those numbers, and also some calls to action for everyone there right now who's seen enough of this, who's seen enough absurd nursing home policies.

02:11:59.000 Michigan, October 2nd, and Lansing.

02:12:02.000 Do we have the winner of the costume contest?

02:12:04.000 We do have the costume contest winner.

02:12:05.000 It looks like it is a gentleman named Vake.

02:12:09.000 There he is!

02:12:11.000 Wow!

02:12:13.000 That is absolute insanity.

02:12:15.000 With a tiny mug.

02:12:16.000 It's the stuff that nightmares are made of.

02:12:18.000 I love it.

02:12:18.000 It looks like Wishmaster.

02:12:21.000 Steven, can I say something about Michigan?

02:12:23.000 I really gotta say something about why people need to tune in, why they need to have their friends tune in, even if they're center or center-left, is because this is a topic that you've been talking about.

02:12:31.000 You're a Michigan native, you've known about these numbers, you're bringing this presentation together.

02:12:36.000 Every time anyone tries to bring up the Michigan numbers about the senior deaths and how they're being covered up and the data's not being released, we get into a new news cycle and it's dissipating.

02:12:45.000 You're going to bring it all together on Friday.

02:12:47.000 You've been sending requests and you really care about what's going to happen.

02:12:50.000 This is something that if you care about coronavirus numbers, regardless of the side you're on,

02:12:55.000 you need to pay attention to what's happening on Friday.

02:12:57.000 And not only that, I have relatives who work as nurses in Michigan and I have a 97-year-old

02:13:01.000 grandmother in Michigan.

02:13:02.000 So I have skin in the game with family members who are direct victims of the policies that

02:13:08.000 you would see from Governor Whitmer.

02:13:10.000 And, of course, she's tried to maintain the optics that, hey, look, we've flattened the hospital curve. 0.94

02:13:15.000 Well, you know how they did that?

02:13:16.000 By stuffing young, sick COVID patients into nursing homes.

02:13:20.000 Because who would suspect the nursing home deaths?

02:13:23.000 Because 25% of any deaths in any given week come from nursing homes.

02:13:27.000 There's a reason that Texas, Florida have a third the death rate of states like New York.

02:13:32.000 And then if you compare population size, there's a reason that Indiana, that these other states neighboring Michigan, that states with the same population density, South Carolina, Tennessee, are not even close to states like Michigan.

02:13:43.000 Governor Whitmer has one leg to stand on as it relates to her status, as it relates to re-election, as it relates to this trust that the public has given to her, and that is she kept your seniors safe.

02:13:55.000 She kept Michiganders safe.

02:13:57.000 I will make a definitive case as to why that is the opposite of the truth.

02:14:02.000 Governor Whitmer's policies, she's been saying she wants to launch an investigation into Donald Trump for not doing enough as it relates to COVID.

02:14:09.000 Well, you know what?

02:14:10.000 First off, Governor Whitmer, you first, and you've done too much.

02:14:13.000 It's pretty tough to measure a non-action, right?

02:14:16.000 It's pretty tough to quantify that.

02:14:18.000 It's not tough to say, oh, wait a second.

02:14:20.000 You vetoed a bill from Republicans that said, hey, hold on a second, let's just not send young sick patients into nursing homes. 0.93

02:14:27.000 Let's just not send people into nursing homes when there's no quarantining system in effect. 0.92

02:14:31.000 Let's make sure that if people are being quarantined before going into nursing homes, that they're in a separate building.

02:14:36.000 You vetoed that, and you put pressure on nursing homes, on assisted living homes, on adult foster care facilities, and homes for the aged to take Young, sick COVID patients.

02:14:48.000 That's what's crazy about Michigan.

02:14:49.000 It's insane.

02:14:50.000 It's not just old, sick patients who left the nursing and went to the hospital, and there was policy, like you saw in New York, where they said, you have to take these patients back.

02:14:58.000 In Michigan, they said, by the way, you're going to take 21-year-old paranoid schizophrenics into your nursing homes, too, and then we're going to cover up and lie about the deaths.

02:15:07.000 So it's a cause that's near and dear to my heart.

02:15:09.000 It'll be entertaining, and it'll poke a finger in the chest.

02:15:12.000 Now, by the way, it won't poke a finger in the chest of the governor.

02:15:15.000 That would be...

02:15:15.000 That would be Joe Biden, a little inappropriate.

02:15:18.000 It'll just be, it'll be figured, like I'll be tapping her on the shoulder.

02:15:21.000 Avoiding any, any, any mammular tissue.

02:15:25.000 Just to be clear.

02:15:26.000 But I think she's going to have a rough time.

02:15:28.000 So that's Friday, October 2nd in Michigan.

02:15:30.000 We are going to go now to lightoffcutter.com slash MugClub for our exclusive unfiltered final takes.

02:15:37.000 Not hot takes!

02:15:38.000 On these debates and taking your chat.

02:15:40.000 Let's go!

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