Garrett and Maddie have been dealing with a politician with no respect for boundaries or personal space. Joe Biden is at the point where he gropes every person that walks by. At first they thought it was cool, but then he started kissing their necks and sniffing them.
00:08:01.000And he showed up late, and we always ask people who come in there, guests, we want to be good hosts, what is it you would like us to get for you?
00:08:22.000Maybe he thinks, okay, they're on top of it, they're going to have warm chicken for me, flight delayed, now the chicken's probably going to be cold.
00:08:55.000Gerald got to talk with him about faith, and I was not there because, well, I had a Ridley Scott creature growing inside of my stomach, but I think I'm mostly better now.
00:09:48.000Yeah, we have this in the New York Times.
00:09:50.0002,700 arrests on campus since April 18th.
00:09:53.000But that's not stopping them because these professional pricks at Emory University were caught by a drone training on how to fight the riot police.
00:10:45.000They don't even take a staggered stance.
00:10:48.000Meaning, they don't take, it's basic human biology.
00:10:50.000If you watch any sport that exists, right, boxing, wrestling, football, for crying out loud, sprinters come off the blocks on a staggered stance.
00:10:59.000Because if you stand completely straight, right, you stand like this, it's saying, please tip me over.
00:11:09.000They don't even do this, so I don't know how they're preparing for an incoming attack.
00:11:12.000It's, please let me put myself at such a biomechanical disadvantage that it would be an impossibility for me to do anything other than fall back on my skinny ass.
00:11:43.000And they're just standing there like, oh, wait, maybe I should put my legs in a position where I won't keel over.
00:11:49.000I hate to give them any type of training advice, but look, and you should never underestimate your opponent, but you watching, listening right now, Yes, you can kick their ass.
00:12:15.000With no strength or... Right, yeah, no strength, no ability.
00:12:19.000Also, by the way, in that last one, can you just show that last portion, that last clip, or just freeze-frame it?
00:12:24.000Typically, if you go... there's a reason, for example, in, like, mixed martial arts or boxing, that they're shirtless, or they put Vaseline on their eyes, because they want to avoid handles, and they want to avoid abrasions getting cut.
00:15:13.000All right, thought I'd help the cause, but... Okay.
00:15:15.000Not exactly Greek culture with those folks.
00:15:17.000Hey, none of this happens, by the way, we have Vivek on, we have Alex Rosen on, we've partnered with Alex Rosen in the past to catch pedophiles, he does great work.
00:16:13.000I think that Ann Coulter did a good job of articulating her points without giving much room for people to simply say that she's a racist.
00:16:20.000I think that race does, or ethnicity, I should say, matters to a degree, and I think that some of her points were incorrect, and I think that Vivek made some good points, but maybe didn't articulate them As clearly as you would have liked, which is why he'll be on the show in just a short while here, about 15 minutes to clarify that.
00:16:38.000But that brings us to this week's installment of, it's kind of Eye on India, but it's kind of Flying V. Yeah.
00:16:55.000Well go through the highlights and sometimes I think this is why we make all of our references here publicly available because I noticed a lot of people talking about this interview and then saying well that's not true or is there anywhere I can find that so we tried to aggregate the points that maybe some people found contentious or uh felt as though they needed more research and we will
00:17:12.000make all those references available to you as we do every day click
00:17:15.000The link in the description lot of credit.com it started off with coulter telling
00:17:20.000Uh vivek that she agreed with him, but could never vote for him
00:17:24.000And this is something and coulter does she'll say something that maybe would offend someone obviously not vivek
00:17:28.000To then make her point which was quite valid So and thanks for coming on and i'm looking forward to our
00:18:01.000Oh, and I agreed with many, many things you said during, in fact, probably more than most other candidates when you were running for president.
00:18:09.000But I still would not have voted for you because you're an Indian.
00:19:11.000They were kind of arguing, and here's one thing that I think people miss.
00:19:14.000She was sort of making the case that American values are inherently tied to ethnicity and Vivek believes that American ideals are separate from ethnicity.
00:19:22.000Both of them are correct in that American ideals here, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, it's not exclusive to any ethnicity, right?
00:19:34.000What Ann Coulter is saying, and she's also correct, is that ethnicity is a very strong indicator as to whether people will understand those ideals.
00:19:46.000She's not saying it's because of ethnicity, but statistically, it's very difficult to get around the fact that you do see clusters.
00:19:54.000Right, you do see these vectors on a graph of, okay, these ethnicities or people from these areas of the world tend to reject the American ideals as per the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
00:20:12.000And I think Vivek brought some really good points in to kind of counter some portions of what she was saying, but I think the problem that most people are going to have is that they're going to watch that clip alone.
00:20:44.000So she uses it as an important metric, I would say.
00:20:46.000And that's the problem with social media.
00:20:47.000Look, when we used to do, when I would do videos on YouTube, there was no Instagram or TikTok where someone else would simply rip 10 seconds and make a bunch of money off of it.
00:20:56.000That's the difference between using these platforms as a tool versus starting off with How do I get attention?
00:21:03.000I'm not saying these two are doing that, I'm saying other people who stir this up are doing that, and then you have some viewers who may not understand the context.
00:21:10.000So let's go to the first point that they discussed to clarify this, and it's centered around the idea that immigrants don't always understand American values.
00:21:34.000And it's noticeable that large percentages of immigrants and children of immigrants Really don't get that, and I think that is the point of having natural-born citizen only for president, that this is a really delicate thing we have, this freedom to bear arms and there being no such thing as hate speech, and it's just an additional little safeguard.
00:22:03.000Of course, you would say, well, that's not because of their race or ethnicity.
00:22:06.000Statistically, however, it is important to recognize the fact that, for example, Hispanic Republicans, meaning Hispanics here who, of course, legal immigrants, these are the stats we're using, references are available publicly, Hispanic Republicans are three times as likely to support gun control measures compared to non-Hispanic Republicans.
00:22:26.000And half of immigrants actually view themselves as more global citizens than American citizens.
00:22:33.000Now there is an exception if you dive into those, often Cuban Americans.
00:22:36.000That's the big difference between people fleeing a government that has persecuted them, that they wish they could have fought off, they wish they could have overthrown.
00:22:46.000So they tend to have a deep respect and revere the First Amendment and a better understanding of the Second Amendment.
00:22:52.000Now we'll get into some stats on Hispanic Republicans later because some of Ann Coulter's talking points were entirely relevant until the map shift from Donald Trump.
00:23:01.000And I understand the point that she's making there, but don't the voters get to ask those questions?
00:23:06.000You could say that about Democrats running today, that they don't agree with the First Amendment as it is written and as it has been in place for the entirety of our existence.
00:23:16.000They don't agree with the Second Amendment.
00:23:17.000They don't believe that everybody has the right to a firearm.
00:23:20.000That should not be a disqualifying thing to run.
00:23:23.000It should be a disqualifying thing to get elected.
00:23:25.000Because then everybody gets to make that decision for themselves, no matter who holds the point of view, a 7th generation WASP, or somebody 2nd generation.
00:23:33.000But the truth is, Hispanic Republicans are three times more likely, and that is because many of them are first- She's not completely right on all of the stuff, but even if she were- She's right on the outcome as far as, look, the problem is a lot of people coming from other countries, particularly, for example, Hispanics, or African migrants, or certainly the Middle East, They've had enough generationally to get this right, and a lot of the time they don't.
00:23:53.000Not because of their race, but it is a reality, and a big part of that comes from the fact that they're surrounded by other like-minded people.
00:24:01.000It's a new thing for them, coming to a new country from another place.
00:24:05.000It's not only the amendments to the Constitution they misunderstand, it's our culture.
00:24:09.000Movies, music, which, by the way, to be fair, I recently learned that I get confused by it, too, when I did my last screen test.
00:25:26.000Point number two that they discuss here, and Ann Coulter's making the point that a lot of people who come from authoritarian governments, even if they are legal immigrants, and this is a valid discussion to have.
00:25:35.000I think we can all agree, illegal immigration, send them back, build a wall, of course.
00:25:40.000Then you also have the luxury of selecting, if you are the belle of the ball, which immigrants you want in your country.
00:25:48.000I believe that that is a valid discussion to have.
00:25:49.000And she makes the case that people who come from countries where they have been bossed around by their government and have accepted it, are more easily bossed around here and are more easily swayed by authoritarian arguments, big government arguments, than natural born citizens.
00:26:06.000It isn't really true that the seventh generation WASPs are voting worse than the immigrants.
00:26:14.000One of the problems with the immigrants we've been taking in, actually probably any immigrant, but definitely 90% of legal immigrants come from the third world.
00:26:42.000Every election is decided by slight movements of the white vote.
00:26:46.000Now, the fact that the white vote is that close, yeah, okay, I hate 50% of them, but
00:26:52.000they're the ones who, you know, change their mind and look at the different candidates.
00:26:58.000It's much more easy to boss around people who've come from an authoritarian culture.
00:27:02.000So that premise, the last phrase, that's true.
00:27:06.000I can tell you this with Canadian American immigrants.
00:27:08.000I have friends who are Canadian who are here, and they still don't understand the Second Amendment, and during COVID, they were the most willing participants in the experiment.
00:27:15.000That is true, and those people, of course, were white.
00:27:18.000As far as the Hispanic vote, she was correct until recently under Donald Trump.
00:27:23.000And let me provide some statistics for you here, because this is, in fact, something that can be quantified.
00:27:58.000Now, in nationwide polling, Donald Trump actually wins a Hispanic vote, but specifically if we go to more specific... in Arizona, and it oscillates, but the lowest that we find is President Trump now getting 46% of the vote.
00:28:11.000So we had, okay, 10,000 votes decided it, 37% of Hispanics voted for Trump in 2020.
00:28:14.000it, 37% of Hispanics voted for Trump in 2020. If 46% of the Hispanic vote in Arizona vote for Trump.
00:29:10.000You don't have to change it by miles, you just change it a little bit, and Democrats have a very hard time winning elections.
00:29:16.000Now, that has to happen at the voting booth, so we have to see that.
00:29:19.000But he's doing a great job there, so I'm not sure why Ann Coulter's not seeing that and also saying, hey, that's great, that's improvement, and just focusing on the white vote.
00:29:27.000Because that, for me, can get into like, okay, we're just going to get rid of the black vote, the Hispanic vote, the Asian vote, the anybody else vote, let's just focus on white people.
00:29:34.000People can very easily attack you there.
00:29:35.000I think what she's saying, and I think there might have been some miscommunication here, she's saying, and I agree with this, don't pander to minority votes that won't have as big of an impact.
00:29:45.000For example, remember Michael, what up, Steele?
00:29:47.000He had his blog, what up, when he was the RNC chairman?
00:29:51.000He was in some position of authority, and it was a pandering like, hey, yo, dark-skinned kids!
00:29:59.000And they were like, no, absolutely not.
00:30:02.000The ideals of the Constitution, the ideals of, of course, the Bill of Rights, should apply to, should be, I should say, attractive to everybody.
00:30:12.000They haven't, they're not always attractive to everybody, depending on the culture from which they're coming right now, if they're first-generation immigrants.
00:30:19.000So it's a valid point, don't pander, but you don't want to solely focus on the white vote, because that would simply be to leave many, many, many, many votes on the table.
00:30:29.000Toolman, I want to, since we'll have Vivek on, I want to go to point number four.
00:30:34.000And we'll use number three because I'd like to discuss that with him.
00:30:37.000But we'll present it to you right now as key point number three.
00:30:41.000And this is very interesting because a lot of people didn't know this.
00:30:43.000We've talked about it here on this program.
00:30:45.000And by the way, Ann Coulter reiterates the point that not only I've made for years now, but Thomas Sowell made before any of us, to be clear, the founder of the Feast.
00:30:53.000And he was, if you haven't read it, if you haven't read his articles on this, Or American Rednecks is one of my favorite.
00:31:01.000She makes this point that immigration now is very, very different, fundamentally, than it was before we had the modern welfare state.
00:31:10.000And an interesting tidbit on the Statue of Liberty, fact check true.
00:31:14.000We have certainly deployed troops and money and aid and pamphlets and Voice of America around the globe, trying to get other countries to adopt this country's ideals.
00:31:39.000So there does seem to be some mystery secret sauce by giving these ideals to Anglo-Saxons, or at least a culture that is dominated by Anglo-Saxons.
00:31:54.000If you came here basically at any point from, I don't know, 1632 up until 1965, if you couldn't make it, you went home or you starved to death.
00:32:31.000Yes, these are ideals accessible to anyone.
00:32:34.000The Statue of Liberty, the genuine purpose of the Statue of Liberty, not what socialist Emma Lazarus slapped on it 50 years later. That poem has nothing to do with why
00:32:45.000France gave us the Statue of Liberty. It's supposed to be liberty lighting the
00:33:03.000And for those of you who did not know, yes, it was a socialist named Emma Lazarus who had that poem put on the statue 20 years later after the statue was built.
00:33:13.000And before I give you some points here to undergird that, I think it's quite important to put this in context.
00:33:19.000We are now, not at the point where this administration or our government is talking about bringing in the best and brightest or even, you know, a skill-based immigration policy.
00:33:28.000We have a former Vice President Biden regime wanting to bring in military male-aged Palestinian refugees to this country with nothing to offer.
00:34:05.000A lot of people don't know this, that immigrants, many of them came from countries where, as Anne Coulter has described, they experienced certainly much more of an authoritative government and they were promised more security.
00:34:15.000There are plenty of people who will give up their liberty for some false sense of security.
00:34:21.000Now, those people back then had a choice.
00:34:25.000Come here to the United States, where you incur all risk, but you have the benefit of freedom, or go back to your country of origin, where you do not have that freedom, but maybe it's a little bit safer.
00:34:35.000It's the same reason that most people work as employees versus starting a business with their own savings account.
00:34:44.000We have removed the risk where people are incentivized to come to this country, black, white, yellow, Red, black, yellow, white, they're all precious in his sight.
00:34:52.000It's a racist song for Jesus, that song.
00:35:31.000You start paying taxes, and you're not eligible for any of these social welfare benefits until an allotted portion of time has taken place, and you have paid in.
00:35:54.000How many people went back home and couldn't make it.
00:35:57.000And tying these things together, I think, was very helpful for me, especially, to say the welfare policies made it to where they didn't have to go back.
00:37:28.000By the way, I do appreciate, though, that you have a studio where we can see you, and it's not a blue shirt on a blue background where you look like the floating homer head in the Japanese commercials.
00:37:38.000This looks... It only took me a year of running for president to figure some of these things out.
00:38:01.000But those three, wherever you get your podcasts, as they say, go get it.
00:38:04.000The funny thing is, this was supposed to be the relaunch of a podcast I started during the presidential campaign.
00:38:10.000And the whole point for me is, and this is a point in the campaign, and this was part of, I took a little bit of a break, now I just relaunched this podcast, is to start to have the kinds of debates, even within the right, That we don't actually have.
00:38:42.000Is is, you know, what I've called me, but but I think that was an interesting discussion about what it means to be a nationalist.
00:38:48.000And so I thought, you know, let's get somebody who has actually thought deeply about this and cultures in the on that list.
00:38:53.000And so this is the first episode of the relaunch podcast I kind of started during the presidential campaign.
00:38:59.000And what do you know, she, she starts with Yes, a wake up call a dose of coffee say and but she was honest.
00:39:06.000Saying she couldn't have voted for me even though she agreed with everything I said, because I'm an Indian, which I thought set up for actually a really interesting conversation that followed.
00:39:45.000It's the actual people on the ground out there doing the work who are nationalists, field nationalists.
00:39:50.000So the point that I wanted to discuss here is, you made a, and I think that I agree with you, I agree with almost everything that you both said.
00:39:57.000But I'd like to give you the chance to clarify this, because I think that some wires have gotten crossed with people who watch this.
00:40:04.000When you talked about how the right shouldn't be reactionary, and then let me just kind of take a moment to explain what my perspective is on it, and then give you the floor.
00:40:15.000So let's run the clip here really quickly.
00:40:17.000We might have even in what I may call our wing, if I may take that liberty of the future conservative movement, One that is accidentally defined by the threat we're reacting to, rather than affirmatively defined on our own terms, right?
00:40:35.000Individual, family, nation, and God serving as the alternative vision to race, gender, sexuality, and climate.
00:40:44.000My definition of American identity has nothing to do With what that person has to say, it's going to be independent and stand regardless of it.
00:40:53.000And I just worry, we've had such a candid conversation, and I'll just close in candor, I worry that a little bit of even a deep, thoughtful, philosophically grounded and committed person like your vision of our national identity may itself be in part a projection of a response guided by people who hate this country, who should have nothing to do with defining what a person like you believes it means to be a citizen of this nation.
00:41:16.000Okay, so really quickly, my perspective here, and we're going to have Alex Rosen on one of the original Predator poachers, which has now unfortunately been copycatted by other people looking for social media clout.
00:41:26.000I agree with the idea that you shouldn't give more credence, for example, reacting to some crazy blue-haired person who has no influence, right?
00:41:35.000though it's funny. I think though, this idea of not being reactionary, I don't see conservatism
00:41:41.000or pushing back as reactionary. I see it as a reaffirming of the Constitution, right, and the
00:41:47.000Bill of Rights. And I would agree with you, if we didn't have to deal with the fact that these
00:41:53.000people who are radical leftists, the entire DNC are in positions of power in all of our established
00:41:58.000institutions. And so sometimes I will see people say, well, why are you being reactionary? Well,
00:42:10.000You changed it and now you have states with abortion up until nine months and after birth.
00:42:15.000So I sometimes have an issue with, or I should say that I'm reticent to go with the premise because then people box you in where one side is only talking about ideas and the other side is shooting arrows at them.
00:42:26.000Yeah, so I do believe with you, and I think it was the only presidential candidate to actually say this, that we are in the middle of a war in this country.
00:42:35.000But I think to win a war, you have to both know who you're defeating and what you're fighting for.
00:42:42.000The conversation, let's just understand who you're talking to here.
00:42:45.000I mean, I've started businesses to compete head-on with BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard.
00:42:56.000And I say this as a matter of self-reflection, Steve, is that I have been reactionary for much of the last four years.
00:43:02.000I don't think there's anything wrong with that, so long as it doesn't blind you from actually remembering what you're fighting for.
00:43:10.000And that came up in the conversation with Ann Coulter, because I think she said something that in her heart of heart, she probably at least a version of her from before wouldn't actually believe in, but for the current environment in this country, which is that she couldn't vote for me because of my ethnic heritage.
00:43:26.000I think that the thing I challenged her with is to say that, you know what, if we didn't have open border policies in this country, if we had a rational immigration policy like the one you just described, and I agree with you wholeheartedly in that last monologue, if we didn't have self-hatred permeating every institution in this country, from our universities to our capital markets to corporate America, to our media, if we actually had a revival of national pride in this country, if English was the sole national language in this country, if we actually ended birthright citizenship for the people who broke the law to come here illegally to have anchor babies, against that backdrop, I don't think Ann Coulter would tell me to my face.
00:43:58.000I don't think she would even believe it, that she couldn't vote for me because I was of Indian heritage.
00:44:02.000And so what that has done, I believe, and I think it's beginning to happen, and I think this is the stuff of how nations end, is that the reactionary impulse takes over.
00:44:12.000The very thing you're going to fight for in the first place.
00:44:14.000And I think that's where we actually are.
00:44:16.000Not because there's some other noble external standard to be measured against, but because we fail to fight for the very thing we cared about getting into this arena for in the first place.
00:44:25.000I mean, why the heck would I run for president?
00:44:40.000And one of those conversations, and I think it's relevant this year in particular, I think the reason we didn't have a red wave in 2022 is not because of abortion.
00:44:57.000But it gets stale after a while, really.
00:44:59.000I mean, Biden gives us an endless list of things to criticize.
00:45:03.000We did not have an alternative vision that we actually stand for.
00:45:05.000I'm not talking about metaphysics and philosophy.
00:45:08.000I'm talking about actual affirmative policies that we stand for.
00:45:12.000Standing for merit, standing for free speech, standing for the rule of law, standing for actually making sure that people, bureaucrats we never elected, aren't the ones running government.
00:45:48.000I mean, we're about to have Alex Rosen on, you know, I don't know if you saw this, Bradley Martin and Vitaly, they did this thing where they tried to confront a pedophile, right?
00:45:55.000And the problem is, they did it in a way where it may let this pedophile off scot-free, whereas Alex Rosen, who we've worked with, has put hundreds of them behind bars by doing his due diligence.
00:46:04.000And the different approach And I will sort of personalize this, for example, you know, I was just a comedian and actor, uh, until YouTuber I had, uh, for example, very familiar, the blue bed sheet behind me back in 2008, 2009, where I would hear my friends saying, assault weapons, assault weapons, assault weapons.
00:46:19.000And I thought, wait a second, they don't even know what that means.
00:46:22.000So I can use these tools at my disposal now, social media, YouTube was new, to do a top five myths about the assault weapons ban.
00:46:29.000Use the tool to shine, to draw attention Yeah.
00:46:32.000to an important issue, versus right now, someone just going, look, slow-mo shot on a gun range by a woman with large
00:46:38.000breasts. It's like, well, if your only goal is clout and attention, this is no longer a tool. The end game is
00:46:44.000attention. The end game is controversy as opposed to using it as a tool. But I do think it's very necessary to cut
00:46:50.000through. In other words, if there was no reaction at all, I mean, we were just watching CNN all day for the last
00:46:57.000several days. It's been about the political persecution of Donald
00:47:00.000and these sham trials, but then taking it to like what you said, concrete policies.
00:47:04.000I really like what you just said about a national language, because I'm going to pull a coulter here a little bit.
00:47:11.000I think you would agree with me, because you both mentioned that people from different countries tend to, I use the term ghettoize, create these enclaves where they don't... And I will tell you, in Texas, that has happened with a lot of Indian immigrants.
00:47:23.000Now, I don't mean as far as crime, I don't mean as far as not paying taxes, but as far as Many not speaking English, and whole neighborhoods where it is entirely Indian, including Indian markets, where you will go as an American and say, this doesn't feel like the United States of America anymore.
00:47:40.000Have you noticed that with this wave of, obviously, a record number of Indian immigrants to the United States for tech jobs?
00:47:45.000And is solving that a national language?
00:47:49.000Like you said, English, starting with, you're like everybody else.
00:47:51.000You have to get in line and you have to follow here.
00:47:54.000Yeah, I mean, I think most of the peers who I'm next to, and this is just not a deflection of what you said, it's just true, is I feel like most people I'm surrounded by don't know how to speak English either.
00:48:02.000I think a lot of immigrants don't know how to speak English.
00:48:05.000And I think that as somebody who tries to speak the language that was bequeathed to us, it's a deeper point.
00:48:14.000I think a lot of what we, you have a lot of self-hatred of this country from immigrants who travel to this country, who then are critical of this country, who then actually are taking advantage of this country, well, without actually pledging allegiance to the flag.
00:48:25.000And then you got sixth and seventh generation of, you know, some girl who, of a kid, of a guy who grew up in the Upper East Side, now moves to Brooklyn, thinks she's a hippie, and shows up at a Hamas protest and says the same thing.
00:48:35.000So I think that that is a deeper issue in our country, where if we're just playing whack-a-mole, Look, no one's more hardline on illegal mass migration than me, and no one's more hardline in believing that the sole purpose of immigration policy in the United States needs to be to advance the interests of U.S.
00:49:01.000A country of 8 million people, talking about 950,000 people, have applied for a green card.
00:49:06.000So this isn't just the illegal migration issue, it's the source of magnitude of demand of, if we did have open borders, this is what's going to become of our country.
00:49:14.000But Steve, I think the thing that bothers me is why the hell am I the only person in the Republican Party who has the guts to say English should be our national language?
00:49:21.000Why am I the only person who can actually offer legal argument for why we should be able to end birthright citizenship without a constitutional amendment?
00:49:53.000So I'm not going to buy some BS that, like, my last name or my skin color insulates me.
00:49:58.000Think about it, I had to step down... No, but that's the perception.
00:50:00.000You have balls, but other people won't criticize you.
00:50:03.000We'll just level at this, we're having some fun here.
00:50:06.000I stepped down from a CEO of a company, multi-billion dollar company that I founded, led a CEO, built it from scratch, wasn't born into money, and had a choice to do what every other biotech CEO was doing in the wake of George Floyd.
00:50:18.000Chose not to do it, did not issue a statement in favor of BLM, because saving this country involves some measure of sacrifice.
00:50:24.000So to somebody, I get this from white friends all the time, good-hearted people, it's like, I love that you can say it because I can't.
00:50:56.000In Quebec, and this goes to Ann Coulter's point, the only people who feel they can't say it Because they've been told they can't say it, are wasps in this country.
00:51:03.000Quebec, they created language laws, they had the language police to enforce it, and by the way, this was copied across the world.
00:51:11.000They said, oh wow, we can do this because we want to preserve a culture, French, namely French-European culture, right, Acadian culture, in Quebec, and they created these language laws, which by the way were discriminatory against English-speaking Canadians.
00:51:22.000No one has a problem with it anywhere else except in white United States of America because they've been told they can't.
00:51:28.000I don't subscribe to that, but I will tell you this.
00:51:30.000My frustration is everyone in the Republican Party, save for you and maybe Donald Trump, it's a white guilt thing.
00:51:36.000They feel they can't say English because people say, do you mean white?
00:51:55.000And so here's here's what I'll say is no excuses for anybody anymore.
00:51:59.000If you have your own convictions, speak your mind in the open actually start standing for don't assume it's somebody else's responsibility.
00:52:05.000And don't make excuses for yourself for not doing it either.
00:52:08.000Now I'm gonna make two points here relating to ethnic pride and nationalism.
00:52:12.000Look, I think it's weird that every other ethnicity other than the white ethnicity can take pride in their ethnic heritage.
00:52:20.000But if white people or people of a WASP variety or whatever take just pride, not denigration of anybody else, but pride in their own ethnic heritage, that's deemed racist.
00:52:42.000The reactionary point is to make an observation that's true.
00:52:45.000It's super bizarre and weird and hypocritical and illogical and inconsistent for every ethnicity except for one subset of ethnicities based on the shade of your tan, which if it's light, a shade of your tan, you can't actually take pride in your own ethnic heritage.
00:53:02.000But then if we go the direction of just letting that reaction guide us and say, I want white pride and somebody else I want black pride, right, actually, we're missing the whole point, which is we should have a shared conviction in American pride.
00:53:15.000And so that's, I think, what I see in the conservative movement right now, Stephen is, I think the left, say what you will about them, they will offer a coherent vision, right?
00:53:24.000There's oppressors and oppressed, they're good at offering a state of emergency, whether it's the end of COVID-19 or climate change, if you don't get it right by then, we're done.
00:53:33.000And we have fallen into the trap of just stopping.
00:53:35.000We need some of this to light the spark.
00:53:37.000It's a means to an end, as you said, but we fall into the trap of just making this as an end in ourself to play whack-a-mole against the other side versus remembering what we're fighting for.
00:53:47.000And it's what's represented by that flag behind you and the flag behind me.
00:53:52.000And I think that that conservative movement has grown lazy, and unless we learn from that, I worry we're going to have the red wave that never came in 2024, just like we did in 2022.
00:54:00.000And that's not up to the left, that's up to us.
00:54:02.000And I think that's something we haven't yet done.
00:54:04.000I completely agree with the, when you talk about the reactionary right, to be clear, people who actually say we should only have white migrants.
00:54:09.000So to give you an example, I would take 20 Cuban American immigrants, Cuban migrants here, who are actually fleeing a persecutive government.
00:54:17.000versus one Swedish socialist. But here, let me give you the issue here that I think a lot of people on the right are
00:54:25.000I'll just start spouting off some titles here.
00:54:29.000The American History of White Supremacy.
00:54:32.000Patriarchy in the establishment of Western civilization.
00:54:34.000I've just named you Ivy League courses where you say pride in the American ideals in every single major school and media outlet these kids are being bombarded with.
00:54:41.000That flag means white supremacy, guys.
00:54:57.000The left's narrative is garbage here on this, but I'll just give you an example in closing, and this is why I'm bothering to relaunch this podcast, and actually I don't take up a project if I'm not serious about it.
00:55:12.000It's like an analogy, but it's a related point where I'll hear about so many people on our side, right, preaching about the importance of teaching our kids history.
00:55:20.000And then when I talk to them, they actually don't know very much about our history, right?
00:55:24.000And we can talk about how they'll defend it like hell against the fact that Thomas Jefferson was a slaveholder.
00:55:42.000President for the cause of fighting for abolition, violated the gag rule by saying the word slavery, uses his own trial to actually make the case against the gag rule, gets it abolished.
00:55:52.000Or that Abraham Lincoln was the person who actually carried him out of the Congress floor when he died, getting a stroke in the middle of a speech on the Congress floor.
00:55:58.000These are great stories of American history.
00:56:01.000And I just use that as an example, where most conservatives I talked to about, well, we believe in our founding, we're not teaching our history anymore, have no clue about that story of American history.
00:56:11.000And so for me, I think our side has grown lazy.
00:56:14.000And I think that's just, I'm not just gonna call that out.
00:56:17.000It's part of what I'm trying to do on this podcast is get into the content beyond this.
00:56:21.000If you want standard conservative talking points, there's a lot of place to go.
00:56:24.000And like, I just get sick of saying what other people are saying.
00:56:27.000But if you want to cover ground that other people haven't covered, that's why I launched this thing.
00:56:31.000The first one with Ann Coulter we put out yesterday in Apple, Spotify, whatever it is.
00:57:36.000It's white guilt from a lot of people on the right where they feel they can't say national language because the left says, do you mean white?
00:59:38.000You got it rub it on your shoulder Yeah, just rub it on your shoulder so we can especially where there's a tear do it slowly Slowly, I said!
01:00:13.000One of the actual products that I used before they ever reached out because it was lab tested and a lot of CBD out there is basically a novelty item.
01:00:21.000I took the whole tincture thing you gave me at once.
01:01:19.000Due diligence matters using platforms and social media and new media to use that term anymore as a tool to draw attention to that's that's one thing simply Trying to get attention, uh, or chasing clout, that's how you make mistakes, and unfortunately, it can sometimes do more harm than good.
01:01:39.000So, this week, you had these, uh, streamers, Bradley Martin, Batali, went viral after catching, uh, this screenwriter, and I'm glad that, I'm glad that a light has been shined on it.
01:01:49.000Uh, Herschel Weingrad, I believe was his name, in this predator sting, after which the man will probably walk free.
01:04:04.000Not at the cost of what is required to accomplish the goal.
01:04:08.000So I don't know if the goal here is to actually bring justice to pedophiles, or if it's clicks.
01:04:16.000Clicks can serve as a valuable tool, pressure to draw attention to the misdeeds, and then them have to face justice.
01:04:24.000But if you take action in a way that actually may undercut the goal, okay, you got clicks, but he may walk.
01:04:32.000And I think that's an important distinction to make because we really work with some people here who do a lot of great work and it takes a lot of time.
01:04:38.000We have things at the Undercover Unit they're working on right now.
01:04:44.000Just really quickly to understand the difference and I want to bring on the OG of Predator Poachers, Alex Rosen.
01:04:50.000It's the difference of, I use the gun example because That was something, a big thing.
01:04:54.000YouTube was just, it was people, it was just this proliferation of anti-gun videos, assault weapons ban, videos on gun statistics that were incorrect.
01:05:05.000I can use this platform to do top five myths about assault weapons or top five myths about the AR-15.
01:05:11.000The clicks were effectively a representation of people being educated, which was the goal, and hopefully entertained.
01:05:17.000It's the difference between proper strength training, for example, trying to get people healthier, using social media to actually provide tools, this is how you lift, this is a good way to eat, this is a routine that you can get into, versus steroids and a filter.
01:05:36.000If the end goal is just, look at me, you don't tell people that you're taking steroids and you're adding a filter and you're telling them it came from some kind of green tea, now you are simply pursuing clicks in the name of clout rather than using these platforms to provide people valuable tools.
01:06:20.000They can find you on X at iFight4Kids, Pea Poachers Live, and of course on Locals, predatorpoachers.com slash, sorry, predatorpoachers.locals.com.
01:06:48.000What was your first thought when you were watching this video, which has since gone viral?
01:06:53.000Well, the first thought is I'm just glad that Hollywood producers exposed.
01:06:56.000I mean, you know, we all say that we all say that all Hollywood's full of pedos, but I mean, clearly there's something going on with that guy's out in the open doing that.
01:07:05.000But, you know, kind of the thing with those types of stings.
01:07:09.000It was probably done the same day like he was that that lady was probably texting him the same exact day they met and I don't even know how much sexual talk was in the messages at all.
01:07:19.000Like just saying I just wanted to meet her and this and that.
01:07:22.000Of course, they never just want to meet of course he wants more no guy meets a lady off a dating app underage or not to just meet but Um, I think in the messages there probably wasn't enough said to get him arrested and that's just gonna make him more careful the next time.
01:07:34.000That's really gonna make him not say anything sexual to the next sting or whatever pops up next.
01:07:40.000So I think he's gonna walk free and that's the unfortunate part about it, but the good part is everybody knows who he is now.
01:07:45.000Yes, I do think that's a great thing is for it to be exposed, but there would be a way to do it properly, for example, the way that you do it where you make it stick.
01:07:54.000In other words, if you were doing this, would it be give it a little more time so that you have verifiable proof of messages that would stand up in court and do your due diligence?
01:08:14.000He was talking to us for nine months, would never get sexual with us, then finally to an eight-year-old girl.
01:08:20.000He says one sexual thing, and it was enough, and we go and confront him about it.
01:08:23.000He gets a three-year sentence, but in that video where we're talking to him, he admits to molesting his niece, and he never got in trouble for that.
01:08:30.000He went to jail for molesting his daughter, and now Maricopa County in Phoenix has extradited him from Oregon to Phoenix, and they charged him with touching his niece now because he said that to us on camera.
01:08:40.000So instead of getting three years in prison, he's facing the rest of his life now.
01:08:43.000So it's really important That you make sure the video is good as well, because if they could admit to an array of crimes, that would just not be in the messages, whether it's sexual or not.
01:08:53.000Do you see this, as someone who's been doing this for a long time, do you see this as a potential problem in the future, this proliferation as far as, you know, these people now being more prudent because of lazy work and making it harder to catch them?
01:09:06.000Because, honestly, I'm surprised that anyone texts those things anymore, like, to catch a predator.
01:09:15.000Yeah, no, I think there's going to be so many pedos and chomos regardless, but I will say in places like L.A.
01:09:23.000County where people like People vs. Preds and CCU have done great work getting a lot of these people arrested, L.A.
01:09:29.000County can now just Group can just group us in with people like Vitaly doing it not exactly the right way to get him arrested.
01:09:35.000Like we've had that problem in places like North Carolina where groups come in and they just kind of screw it up.
01:09:41.000And then we get a guy in North Carolina who admits to buying child pornography of infants and toddlers and nothing happens to him because they don't even want to touch anything with it now.
01:09:49.000So that's kind of what I worry about with that.
01:09:51.000Do you think there's a way to course-correct that going forward?
01:09:55.000Because the work you do is very important, and the reason it's so important is because, unfortunately, our members of law enforcement haven't seemed to make it the priority that they need to, so it requires people like you.
01:10:40.000And we have that, by the way, we have to deal with that on a different scale.
01:10:43.000But certainly, actually no, with undercover, the undercover unit, for example, the National Manifesto, Chippewa Falls, where we know that it could get clicks if we go out faster, if you, you know, if you basically glorify it in a way that is less than accurate.
01:10:55.000But sometimes the truth needs to be enough, and the process needs to be included.
01:11:00.000Make it entertaining, and also make sure that the legal consequences are apportioned.
01:11:06.000I mean, really quick, Alex, so do you think that the goal, based on what we saw, was basically just exposure and to be able to try to make it, I don't know, make it sting a little bit for this guy, but not necessarily get him put in jail?
01:11:18.000Because it seems like they immediately started off by doing things that potentially could give them legal troubles.
01:11:23.000Yeah, I don't think the intent of that sting was to put that guy in jail.
01:11:28.000I don't think the intent of any of the stings that they do is to put him in jail.
01:11:31.000Like if you're shaving their eyebrows and stuff like that.
01:11:33.000Obviously, you're doing it with the knowledge that, hey, this guy's not going to go to jail, and maybe they think it's going to scare the pedo into not doing it again, but I can tell you, after doing this for five years, they absolutely do it again.
01:11:43.000The amount of sex offenders that we've caught that have just been fresh out of prison, the amount of people that we've caught twice, even when they're on bail, after they get arrested by us the first time, they will do the shit again, so there's no teaching them a lesson.
01:12:09.000These guys are going to go ahead and do it again.
01:12:10.000Really quickly, without being explicit, what do you need to see in the communication to be able to have somebody get arrested?
01:12:18.000Just in case these guys out there don't know this, and they're doing the pedophile stuff, and they're doing these things, but they're not getting any actual arrest, nothing is actually changing.
01:12:26.000What do the cops need to see in those messages?
01:12:29.000Well, in California, for example, if that predator would have just sent a penis picture to who he thought was a minor, that would be enough to charge him.
01:12:36.000Arranging to meet a minor under sexual pretenses, that would be enough to charge.
01:12:40.000In every state, though, meeting who you believe to be a minor off the internet just under no sexual pretenses expressed, that's not illegal in any state.
01:12:47.000And I mean, that's definitely an issue, but that's just the case.
01:12:50.000So there definitely would need to be like a solicitation of a sexual act.
01:12:56.000It has to be like, Anything from a hand job to all the way, so... Right, gotcha.
01:13:01.000Also, a concern that I have is, if we get into a culture of no receipts provided, and it's a take-our-word-for-it thing, then you could also slander people who aren't pedophiles, right?
01:13:10.000In other words, it could be like, hey, what if some guy is saying, I just came to actually have pizza with my niece, and they actually are?
01:13:17.000It can all be tossed into that same lot if we've never actually seen the explicit material, or at least some verification of it.
01:13:26.000I mean, you could catch 10 actual pedos and then throw in somebody you have a personal vendetta against and nobody will tell the difference.
01:13:55.000I know that we have gone late, sir, so I appreciate you making the time.
01:13:59.000I don't know if you have anything else that you wanted to add or what you're working on and where people can find you and support you, but I appreciate the insight.
01:14:06.000So, we got a guy on the West Coast right now who... My decoy totally set me up for failure on this, so Hannah, if you're watching this, as politely as possible as I can say, go F yourself for this, but... So, we sometimes pose as a dad of a nine-year-old kid, and we have a guy named Eric Rowe, rested in Indiana because of it.
01:14:24.000He came into the hotel room, or he invited us into the hotel room, me, my decoy daughter, and then one of our subscribers playing the wife, and he, on the hot mic, says, Yeah, I molested my daughter, this and that, and then we dropped the hammer on him.
01:14:36.000He got arrested for child pornography and attempted child molestation.
01:14:41.000Y'all can go watch that on Rumble, Predator, Poachers, Marion, M-A-R-I-O-N.
01:14:45.000But, so we have another guy, similar situation, I'm playing as the dad, and then this guy expresses that he's bi-curious, and then, so, my decoy, she's texting as me, pretty much, and she's saying that, like, oh, I'll bring lubricant, and this predator's telling me to get my butthole ready, so thank you, Hannah, for that.
01:16:18.000Why do you think that very few other people in the Republican Party, I think it's important to notice there's a difference between that and people out there doing this kind of work.
01:16:25.000I certainly wouldn't consider someone like an Alex Rosen to be gutless, or anyone here in this room.
01:16:30.000But yeah, there is a disconnect between what we do, and not only the RNC, but a lot of the conservative, I would even say, media movement out there.
01:16:37.000It does seem like they've been a little bit neutered.
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01:16:54.000Yeah, really quick before we go, we're working on trying to get Vivek to be able to do a Spaces tonight to talk a little bit more about the Ann Coulter thing with me and with Gingersnap, so just to see if we can kind of dive into it, because I think you guys had one of the better conversations about this stuff that I've seen, and more of that needs to happen.
01:17:11.000So check us out on social media and we'll see at G Morgan Jr.
01:17:14.000or if you follow Vivek, I think he'll probably be hosting if we do it.
01:17:17.000So we're trying to set it up so that we can continue to have these conversations and let you guys kind of chime in a little bit and see what you think about it.
01:17:23.000Because I got to tell you, I learned a bunch of new stuff by watching their conversation.
01:17:26.000I didn't realize some of the connections.
01:17:28.000I didn't realize how many people went home.
01:17:29.000I didn't realize, you know, tying it to pre-1965, post-1965.
01:17:34.000It was just, it was a really, really good thing for me to see and to get a little bit more information on.
01:17:39.000I don't know what's on my desk right here.