Louder with Crowder - “Brazil is a Cautionary Tale” | Ash Wednesday with Paulo Figueiredo and Allan Dos Santos

00:00:00.000 I'm sure I was a little late to the draw on letting this...

00:00:10.000 It's another installment of Ash Wednesday.

00:00:12.000 It's one of the rare instances where we pre-tape anything, so I don't know if it's going to be an Ash Tuesday or Thursday, but I have a couple of Brazilians here today, a little disappointed because they're men. 1.00

00:00:25.000 When I heard we had two...

00:00:27.000 Were you assuming my gender?

00:00:28.000 Sorry, I did. I was just sorely disappointed.

00:00:32.000 I heard two Brazilians coming into the studio.

00:00:35.000 No, but you know, you do okay.

00:00:37.000 You're like a six and a half.

00:00:39.000 So it's, of course, you've seen them on the show, Mr.

00:00:43.000 Paulo, Figueredo. I mean, Paulo, Figueredo, Filo, but I've always said Paulo Figueredo.

00:00:47.000 Filo just means junior. Okay.

00:00:48.000 All right. Oh, does it?

00:00:50.000 Yeah. There was this one time, I was working actually with a Trump organization, and they did a background check and said, well, your name is Fido.

00:01:01.000 I see there's another guy on the company that's Fido as well.

00:01:04.000 Are you related? And Donald Trump Jr.

00:01:07.000 asked me that question. I said, well, are you related to Robert Downey Jr.?

00:01:10.000 This is like his junior.

00:01:12.000 Did he get it? Or was he like, no.

00:01:15.000 No. He's smart.

00:01:18.000 So you can follow, of course, Paulo on X. He has a couple of X's right now.

00:01:22.000 And, of course, his show is here on Rumble.

00:01:24.000 What are the X handles?

00:01:27.000 It's at Real P Figueroa, my last name.

00:01:30.000 F-I-G-U-E-I-R-E-D-O. And if you're watching, that's on screen. 1.00

00:01:34.000 And, of course, his good friend here.

00:01:35.000 Well, I know it's Alan DeSantos. I'm trying to look for the X. But, Alan, what's your X? Alan L. DeSantos.

00:01:42.000 Okay. I want to make sure people know where to find you because they've seen you on the show and a lot of Americans are fascinated because I was raised in Canada and I always see Americans talking about Canadian politics and they don't know what they're talking about.

00:01:56.000 I don't expect them to. It's a different system.

00:01:58.000 It's a parliamentary system. And the same thing with Brazilian politics.

00:02:02.000 It intrigues me.

00:02:03.000 I don't fully understand the ins and outs, but I do recognize fascism when I see it.

00:02:08.000 I do recognize censorship when I see it and see a parallel in a country with the United States.

00:02:14.000 And you've been on the show to talk about that a couple of times.

00:02:18.000 But what is it if, before we move on, because some Americans will go, I'm not Brazilian, it doesn't affect me.

00:02:26.000 Tell them what is the most important key fact that Americans need to know in how it relates to Brazil and how that actually directly relates to Americans at home.

00:02:35.000 I think there are two main points that you can see.

00:02:38.000 The first one is how similar Brazil is to the U.S. culturally.

00:02:42.000 We have the same political system.

00:02:44.000 We're supposedly a democratic republic.

00:02:48.000 You can argue a little bit on that, but we grew up watching U.S. movies.

00:02:54.000 We consumed the same products.

00:02:56.000 Most U.S. companies are in Brazil, and they're very successful in Brazil.

00:03:00.000 We dress out the same way.

00:03:01.000 We're better in jiu-jitsu, but other than that...

00:03:04.000 We'll get to it. Yeah, we'll get to it.

00:03:06.000 We'll get to it. All the metals. But we're very similar.

00:03:11.000 And because of that, we work as a lab for the crazy ideas that come up in the US universities that are tested in Brazil.

00:03:19.000 So we're a lab for crazy ideas.

00:03:21.000 And I think a lot of the things that happens in Brazil are similar to what's happening in the United States.

00:03:27.000 So you can look into Brazil and see a little bit of what's the outcome of these crazy ideas that some people are defending in the U.S. So that's one side of it.

00:03:38.000 And for people who don't know, people who haven't seen you on the show before, obviously as a journalist who was censored, I mean, it's something that's a warning that people should heed.

00:03:46.000 For people who don't know of your background, we'll make sure that you have the link in the description, but that's kind of how you came to be, I don't want to say more popular, but the more they try and silence you, the more people know who you are.

00:03:57.000 True. And on that, you can talk about the censorship that's ongoing in the U.S. It's going through the deep state, like putting pressure on the White House, putting pressure on social media company, and the social media companies coming up with, we all know what's going on on YouTube and not on X anymore, but on other companies as well, like Meta and Facebook and whatever.

00:04:19.000 That's the same thing that's happening in Brazil.

00:04:22.000 But the other side of it, Brazil is so important, is from a geopolitical perspective.

00:04:27.000 Yeah. Because, well, Brazil is, and I can say that without fear, that it's the most important country from a geopolitical perspective on the southern hemisphere.

00:04:37.000 And the reason I tell you this is, well, obviously, if you control Brazil, Brazil controls completely the whole coast on the Atlantic South Ocean, which is fairly important.

00:04:47.000 But not only that, if you go to war, you need four things.

00:04:51.000 You need people. To build an army, you need food to feed this army, you need iron to produce the war machines, and you need energy to power the war machines.

00:05:02.000 And Brazil's the number three or fourth largest food producer in the world.

00:05:06.000 Brazil is the fifth largest population in the world.

00:05:10.000 Brazil is the number two iron ore producer in the world.

00:05:13.000 And Brazil has more energy than most OPEC countries, some of them combined.

00:05:18.000 So from a geopolitical perspective, the fact that Brazil is shifting towards China should 0.98

00:05:24.000 be very concerning to the US, to Americans.

00:05:29.000 Yeah. I think it should be a concern.

00:05:40.000 Which is always kind of surprising to me, especially during that time of Bolsonaro, to not see Americans understand what they had at that moment in time.

00:05:49.000 It's no big secret that I have quite a few friends in my close circle who are Brazilian, especially coming from a background having done jiu-jitsu, so I was a little bit more in tune with it.

00:05:57.000 But I thought, okay, there's one other place where there seems to be this at least sprouting of freedom that people understand.

00:06:03.000 And so when I saw that change with Lula, I didn't know all the ins and outs.

00:06:07.000 But was really disappointing, was really disheartening to see, because you're going, ah, I thought they were about to get it right.

00:06:13.000 And I don't want you to let you hog the whole spotlight.

00:06:15.000 Alan DeSantos, you obviously were an early backer to supporter of Bolsonaro there, and you guys have both been involved with...

00:06:22.000 I mean, there's so many stories. So you guys tell me where you want me to go with this.

00:06:25.000 I mean, you've been in American jail, you were telling me, Paulo?

00:06:28.000 Yeah. Yeah. You haven't been in jail, right?

00:06:30.000 No, not yet. I don't imagine you would fare well in jail.

00:06:33.000 Yeah. Unless you were managing the library like Brooks and Shawshank, come on, you better find the biggest guy and make nice with him.

00:06:40.000 But what do you think is the most important for Americans to understand?

00:06:45.000 I would like to go back a little bit in history.

00:06:48.000 When Walt Disney was facing a strike, I think it was the first strike, strongest one.

00:06:57.000 He had a deal with Bank of America to recover his money and do more movies.

00:07:06.000 And he had a mission in South America.

00:07:09.000 And you can watch it on Disney +, this is not hitting the ABC countries.

00:07:16.000 He had a mission to go to South America and spread anti-Nazi propaganda.

00:07:23.000 That's when he came up with Jose Carioca, right?

00:07:26.000 Yeah, exactly. Wait, anti-Nazi propaganda?

00:07:29.000 Yeah, anti-Nazi propaganda.

00:07:30.000 Well, I mean, we're anti-Nazi.

00:07:34.000 We're all anti-Nazi, anti-Nazi propagating. 0.86

00:07:37.000 No, he was, I mean, doing, not against the Nazi, but doing the anti-Nazi propaganda.

00:07:43.000 Right, yes. The word propaganda in English has a bad connotation.

00:07:48.000 It has a bad connotation.

00:07:49.000 We're like, well, it's not propaganda.

00:07:51.000 If someone's saying Nazis are bad, it's like, ah, it's not all propaganda.

00:07:54.000 But it's because the word propaganda in Portuguese, it means to propagate an idea.

00:07:59.000 Oh, okay. That's why he's coming.

00:08:01.000 Which is kind of ironic, because I don't know if you know this, but Walt Disney didn't like the Jews, so I'm imagining that they weren't in charge of Bank of America yet.

00:08:10.000 So anyway, he went to South America to do this job in the name of the United States with Argentina, Chile, and Brazil.

00:08:24.000 So Brazil was very important back then, Because they knew that if you conquer Brazil, why are you fighting against Cuba?

00:08:35.000 What Cuba means in comparison with Brazil?

00:08:39.000 If you won Brazil, for example, the Russian and Chinese army, if they won Brazil... 0.54

00:08:47.000 They have Venezuela and Cuba and the drugs and everything that you can ever imagine and even a war against the United States would be easier for them if they have Brazil because South America is basically Brazil.

00:09:01.000 Brazil is the biggest country.

00:09:02.000 Brazil is bigger than the United States.

00:09:03.000 There are going to be some people who will take umbrage with that.

00:09:06.000 Namely, South Americans not from Brazil.

00:09:08.000 That man just say, we're basically Brazil?

00:09:11.000 He means 60% of the South American continent.

00:09:14.000 The size of the country. Right, yeah.

00:09:16.000 Plus, who cares about the Peruvians?

00:09:20.000 I love ceviche.

00:09:22.000 Yeah, alright, okay. Yeah, it took a genius to say, let's not cook it.

00:09:27.000 So the size...

00:09:30.000 A lot of Japanese influence.

00:09:33.000 The counts were coming over.

00:09:35.000 By the way, this cigar blew up on me, so I'll be the only one not having a cigar here.

00:09:40.000 It looks like a cartoon cigar.

00:09:41.000 So anyway, Brazil was an important piece for America for a long time.

00:09:48.000 After... Oh, yeah, you know what?

00:09:49.000 I will. You only smoke cigarettes.

00:09:51.000 Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I smoke cigarettes.

00:09:52.000 It's okay. You'll die young, but, you know.

00:09:55.000 He'll die free. Yes, yes, he will.

00:09:57.000 Yeah. That's a good point. And let us see who is that first.

00:10:03.000 I would bet on death.

00:10:06.000 But anyway, so this is the point.

00:10:11.000 When America was starting... 0.51

00:10:14.000 Being conquered by all the leftists, even the bureaucracy in the United States, even the politicians.

00:10:22.000 When the United States started becoming more blue and less red, Brazil was important only for the left. 0.89

00:10:31.000 And why is that? Because they needed to use Brazil as Paulo said as a lab and an 0.53

00:10:39.000 ally. For example BRICS. BRICS is a organization B for Brazil R for

00:10:49.000 Russia U I for India C for China and S for South Africa. 0.81

00:10:56.000 And their Their goal is to destroy US dollar.

00:11:02.000 So for the left, Brazil is very important.

00:11:05.000 They want to destroy the United States through Brazil. 0.98

00:11:09.000 Right. So if the patriot Americans...

00:11:14.000 I think there's an important point to be made.

00:11:17.000 The difference on foreign policy between conservatives and leftists.

00:11:23.000 Yeah. So the leftists always had this big concern with their national community, right?

00:11:29.000 So the globalists are pretty much leftists.

00:11:31.000 Yeah. The conservatives in the U.S., they always had this tension between the non-interventionists or isolationists and the interventionists.

00:11:43.000 So you have this tension of, like, one side you have the crazy neocons, like, let's export democracy to Iraq. 0.84

00:11:51.000 Just saying the words sounds so silly, doesn't it? 0.94

00:11:54.000 Like, let's export them. You know where they want democracy? 0.86

00:11:57.000 Iraq. Right.

00:11:59.000 And on the other side, you have, well, people say America first, but some people...

00:12:05.000 I'm all for America first, but some people mean American only.

00:12:10.000 Exactly. And, well, the world is not a beautiful place, so if America's not there, someone else will be.

00:12:19.000 And so because of that, I think the conservatives in the United States are concerned with the United States.

00:12:25.000 Right. The left is well-connected everywhere.

00:12:29.000 So they do have an actual network.

00:12:32.000 And I guess that goes to what he was saying.

00:12:35.000 Yeah, so the left is now...

00:12:37.000 They really know how important Brazil is to destroy the United States. 0.99

00:12:42.000 So that should be the most concern for American people.

00:12:47.000 Understanding how it is important to see what they do in Brazil and how the bad things develop in Brazil.

00:12:56.000 Like, for example, the health care in the United States.

00:13:00.000 The leftists here, they sell an idea that...

00:13:05.000 If the health insurance could be only public, like public schools, that would work.

00:13:13.000 So go to Brazil and you're going to see how f***ed up it is. 1.00

00:13:16.000 That's what happened with Canada, with me.

00:13:18.000 I think Canada is the best example of that. 1.00

00:13:21.000 And Michael Moore said that Cuba had a better health care system, but he's a dumb fat f***. 1.00

00:13:26.000 That was actual propaganda. 1.00

00:13:27.000 Yes, no, it absolutely was. That was propaganda.

00:13:29.000 Of course it was, and he bought into it.

00:13:31.000 And so my first investigative piece, I was with a company called PJTV in LA, and I said, this was before you even had access to hidden cameras.

00:13:36.000 I said, I know the hospitals I went to and the clinics, so I just took it, and it was like, you know, an old camera in a hat.

00:13:42.000 Really? Yeah. And I went undercover.

00:13:44.000 It was ridiculous. 0.87

00:13:46.000 And I just showed people like, yeah, broken arm. 0.69

00:13:48.000 We waited for, I think it was eight or nine hours in an emergency room and no one saw us.

00:13:52.000 To get penicillin, you would be dazed.

00:13:54.000 To get a blood test, three years to get a family doctor because there weren't enough doctors.

00:13:58.000 And then I was accused of propaganda, so I followed it up.

00:14:01.000 And now it's since basically collapsed where they've conceded it in Canada, which is interesting that you say, not to misquote you, but that Brazil is in some ways a petri dish testing some of these ideas.

00:14:12.000 That's very much what Canada is.

00:14:13.000 That's how I saw it because it's so similar to the United States.

00:14:16.000 Yeah. It's basically America light.

00:14:21.000 And you see it not work there.

00:14:23.000 And I'll see Americans praise it.

00:14:25.000 And you see that now with the left praising the recent election and your leadership now in Brazil.

00:14:30.000 How close do you think... The left is, right now, we know historically how important it is, but at this moment in time, the left is to tipping Brazil, and does that cause other dominoes to fall?

00:14:40.000 Oh, I can absolutely say that Lula wouldn't be president of Brazil, communist Lula, the current president of Brazil, he wouldn't be president if he wasn't for the US left.

00:14:49.000 And I mean that, that's hard to dispute.

00:14:51.000 Right. On the point that, well, for example, Well, Lula won the election.

00:14:57.000 That's what we were told, that he won the election.

00:15:01.000 And we have all the problems with the Brazilian electoral system.

00:15:03.000 If you think in the U.S. it's bad, Brazil is way worse. 0.97

00:15:07.000 Well, I can imagine. Yeah. Well, first of all, it's fully electronic.

00:15:09.000 So 100% electronic with no paper trail.

00:15:13.000 Second, everything is decided by a centralized federal court, which is the superior electoral court.

00:15:18.000 The man who was in charge of this court was Bolsonaro's sworn enemy, Demo Rice.

00:15:26.000 The bald guy looks like a James Bond villain.

00:15:29.000 Or Voldemort, as Elon Musk likes to say.

00:15:33.000 And that's bad enough.

00:15:34.000 But one of the things that they were able to make was completely censored conservative speech since, I don't know, 2020?

00:15:45.000 Yeah. And especially in 2022.

00:15:47.000 Completely. And the way they started doing that is like, for example, we have access to public documents showing meetings between technicians from this electoral court, meeting with FBI agents, FBI, U.S., United States FBI agents, where they were teaching them how to, quote unquote, combat disinformation.

00:16:11.000 Right. So everything that was done behind the scenes here, and we didn't know in the US, like the Hunter Biden laptop, it was being hidden while they sent FBI agents to talk to them to not publish the story that would probably, in Brazil, that was done by a court order.

00:16:28.000 So the stories were being censored by the order of the Supreme Court, which is the highest court in the land.

00:16:34.000 Right. So all that framework came from the United States.

00:16:37.000 The theoretical framework to come up with, to justify all that, was the Atlantic Council, is a U.S. NGO funded by George Soros, was the one in Brazil working with them.

00:16:50.000 George Soros funded most of the initiatives in Brazil That censored conservatives and worked with the Superior Electoral Court to censor conservatives in Brazil.

00:16:59.000 So you have the deep state and US NGOs and Georgia is like a conspiracy theorist.

00:17:05.000 And I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

00:17:07.000 But that's a fact.

00:17:10.000 And you had, at one point...

00:17:13.000 You had the Biden administration openly working to make sure no one disputed the electoral results in Brazil.

00:17:25.000 They did the same thing here with big tech.

00:17:27.000 If you at home think I'm crazy, just...

00:17:30.000 Look at the Financial Times article.

00:17:32.000 They have an article bragging about how the U.S., the discrete campaign to save Brazilian elections.

00:17:38.000 They brag about it.

00:17:40.000 The fact that the U.S. sent the CIA Director William Burns, the Chief of the Southern Command, the General Chief of the Southern Command, Jake Sullivan, to put pressure on Brazilian public officials and even military leaders to not challenge the electoral results in Brazil.

00:17:56.000 So what I'm saying is, and even, I talked to a lot of military leaders during the election, and they said, they actually said, if we challenge the elections, the Americans will sanction us, and that will destroy our country.

00:18:09.000 So we can't challenge them.

00:18:11.000 Right. So, and that's the only reason why, not the only reason, but the main reason why we have a dictator in Brazil that's able to do whatever he wants, because he has support of the U.S. left.

00:18:25.000 There is a silver lining. At least you have electronics in Brazil.

00:18:32.000 Electronics? Yeah, your whole elections are rigged electronically, but at least you have computers in Brazil.

00:18:38.000 We know the results. Oh, yeah. A lot of countries right around cannot claim the same.

00:18:44.000 Well, you don't want our computers.

00:18:46.000 No. You don't.

00:18:48.000 Does it fill up a whole room?

00:18:50.000 Yeah, like mainframes?

00:18:51.000 Yeah, exactly. No, we don't know.

00:18:52.000 Because they're secret. The electrical computers are secret.

00:18:55.000 All the elections counted in a secret computer secret.

00:18:58.000 They call it the secret room.

00:19:00.000 Am I? No.

00:19:02.000 No, it's true, right? All the elections counted in a secret room that only a handful of people have access to.

00:19:08.000 And the truth is you can't know the result.

00:19:10.000 Of course. In other words, you're saying like, that's what we were told, but it's a legitimate thing to say because there's really no way of knowing.

00:19:15.000 No, before the result, how can you prove that your vote is really the vote they are counting?

00:19:24.000 Right. There is no way.

00:19:25.000 There is no way. And that's a good example of a parallel to the United States.

00:19:29.000 That's what the left would have here in the U.S. They wanted to.

00:19:32.000 They had a bill.

00:19:34.000 They still want to. They still want to.

00:19:36.000 Yeah. A fully centralized and electronic system.

00:19:38.000 That's federalized.

00:19:39.000 That's their dream come true.

00:19:41.000 And it happens in Brazil. Right.

00:19:42.000 And right now we have a population, probably half of the Brazilian population, including,

00:19:50.000 that's an actual number, 82% of Bolsonaro voters think the election will be a success.

00:19:54.000 was stolen. Right. 82% and all these people are being silenced.

00:20:00.000 I'm talking about a country that has 220 million people. Right. Half of

00:20:04.000 them voted for Bolsonaro, half of them voted for Lula.

00:20:06.000 Yeah. Supposedly.

00:20:08.000 Right. 82% of people that say they voted for Bolsonaro say, we think the election was stolen.

00:20:16.000 And these people can't say it.

00:20:19.000 Because in the U.S., because of First Amendment, thank God, I can wear a shirt saying the election was stolen.

00:20:26.000 I can sell a shirt saying the election was stolen.

00:20:28.000 Just not on YouTube. Not on YouTube, of course.

00:20:31.000 Right. But you can say it.

00:20:32.000 You don't go to prison. If you say that in Brazil, you will go to prison.

00:20:37.000 Why did you go to prison?

00:20:39.000 So I went to the U.S. prison for a different reason.

00:20:43.000 It wasn't rape? No, no, no.

00:20:46.000 And you weren't raped? I was not.

00:20:48.000 Not that I know. As far as I know.

00:20:53.000 I drank a lot when I was young.

00:20:56.000 I used to drink a lot, so maybe I was.

00:20:59.000 No, it was a completely different issue.

00:21:03.000 I was on real estate in Brazil, and I partnered up with the Trump Organization to develop a hotel in Rio.

00:21:11.000 And it was a Trump Hotel Rio.

00:21:15.000 We started a partnership in 2012.

00:21:19.000 In 2016, the two days after Donald Trump won the election in the U.S., the Brazilian Department of Justice opened an investigation against all assets that Donald Trump was related to in Brazil.

00:21:33.000 It's like two days after.

00:21:35.000 And because of that, I was the CEO of one of the companies, and they arrested me, and they openly said, Oh, we don't care about you.

00:21:44.000 Although it's good that you come from a known family name so we bring attention to the case.

00:21:49.000 Right. You don't need to go through this.

00:21:52.000 Give us anything on Donald Trump and we'll let you go free.

00:21:57.000 Right. But I was living here in the U.S. Already.

00:22:01.000 So I said, yeah, screw you. 0.99

00:22:03.000 I don't have anything against Donald Trump. 0.99

00:22:05.000 They didn't do anything wrong.

00:22:08.000 And so they issued an arrest warrant.

00:22:11.000 I got to spend nine months or eight and a half months on the Interpol Red Notice list.

00:22:16.000 When they did that, I was in the U.S. waiting for my green card, and I was under a journalist's visa still.

00:22:24.000 They canceled my U.S. visa.

00:22:27.000 And the ICE said, well, now you're here in this country illegally.

00:22:31.000 Who cares, though? They allow terrorists to be here illegally. 0.99

00:22:34.000 That was in the Trump administration.

00:22:36.000 Oh, yeah. Rule of law and whatever.

00:22:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they said, well, you're...

00:22:40.000 So the ICE rang the doorbell of my house and they took me...

00:22:44.000 They arrested me and I spent 17 days in Chrome in Miami.

00:22:49.000 So, yeah. How was that?

00:22:52.000 That was probably one of the best things that happened in my life. 0.99

00:22:55.000 I really enjoyed being raped. 0.97

00:22:59.000 No, it's like... 0.99

00:23:00.000 Breaking bad.

00:23:02.000 Right. Some people do.

00:23:05.000 I mean, look, I wouldn't say this is a judgment-free zone, but you have my curiosity.

00:23:10.000 Had you been doing jujitsu before jail?

00:23:12.000 Yeah. Oh, okay. All right.

00:23:14.000 I don't know if it really works when someone sharpens a...

00:23:16.000 You know what? What happened then was that I had my name, and I come from a very traditional family in Brazil.

00:23:23.000 I'm a grandson of a president.

00:23:25.000 Right. So... So I had my name on all the shows, like CBS Evening News, saying, well, the grandson of the former president was arrested for corruption for being associated with Donald Trump.

00:23:38.000 He was just arrested in Miami.

00:23:40.000 I had my name in all the newspapers as being corrupt.

00:23:45.000 And I was like, okay.

00:23:47.000 Well, just so people know, in the House, by the end of the case, it terminated the case against me.

00:23:51.000 They said I was completely bull**** and I shouldn't be charged since the beginning.

00:23:56.000 It doesn't matter. They accomplished what they set out to, to damage your reputation. 0.65

00:23:59.000 They want us to ensure that people don't trust you as a journalist going forward, and they felt like they accomplished that.

00:24:05.000 It doesn't matter if it sticks. But that's the best thing that can happen to you.

00:24:07.000 Because then you stop thinking about your reputation and just don't care anymore.

00:24:13.000 And you say, well, is this the worst thing they can do to me?

00:24:17.000 I was, at the end of the 17 days in prison, I swear to you, I was friends of everyone inside.

00:24:23.000 Oh really? Yes. I was clapped when I was leaving.

00:24:26.000 Like, people crying. What did you do?

00:24:28.000 Well, that's what I was going to say.

00:24:31.000 That's not normal. It's one thing if, like, you know, you manage to keep your...

00:24:35.000 That doesn't matter. What are you doing in Vegas?

00:24:37.000 Stay in Vegas? I was going to say, if they're clapping for you leaving, that means they're going to miss you.

00:24:42.000 You're going to get some phone calls when they get out.

00:24:43.000 Well, I made some friends.

00:24:45.000 Believe it or not, the son-in-law of a former president of Egypt was in prison with me.

00:24:52.000 Oh, really? Yes. And the guy was put in the red notice because of the Muslim Brotherhood. 0.67

00:25:00.000 That put his name on the Red Notice and he was living in the U.S. And because the Trump administration had this very stupid policy of arresting everyone that was on the Red Notice to be deported.

00:25:12.000 It was like, you don't know how weaponized the Red Notice is. 0.94

00:25:15.000 I think he should suspect right now because the Iran tried to put Donald Trump on the Red Notice. 0.98

00:25:20.000 Right, yeah. And the Red Notice works like the government just put your name in there and that's it, period.

00:25:26.000 Mm-hmm. So people need to understand that.

00:25:28.000 I mean, they don't need to prove anything.

00:25:30.000 Yeah. Meanwhile, they vet and approve of actual ISIS terrorists who are coming here through their CPP system in the United States.

00:25:38.000 That was the craziest thing when you looked at these terrorists who were caught in the United States, illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:25:42.000 They were already vetted and approved.

00:25:44.000 So it's not like they're actually—it's a thorough process, or—they can't claim it's a thorough process, and they can't claim that it was an honest mistake, because it just seems to be based on the political points of view of the people who end up there.

00:25:57.000 Like, you can't accidentally—oh, sorry, some ISIS terrorists got through, like, eight, and sorry, accidentally, this guy goes in.

00:26:04.000 At a certain point, you know, it all adds up.

00:26:06.000 It does. But it was—I mean— It changed me completely as a person, and I do believe God makes that as part of His plans.

00:26:14.000 And to me, it was the best thing that ever happened to me.

00:26:17.000 Because when I was able to get out of the...

00:26:21.000 Of course, 17 days is awful.

00:26:23.000 I have two small kids, and there were babies back then.

00:26:26.000 But when I laughed, I felt like, okay, so now there's nothing they can do against me.

00:26:33.000 And they went after me several times trying to destroy my reputation.

00:26:37.000 I was like, I've been canceled before.

00:26:39.000 There's nothing. You have nothing on me.

00:26:40.000 You know the scene from Batman The Dark Knight where Batman holds the Joker and he starts smashing the Joker and the Joker laughs and says, all your power, you have nothing against me.

00:26:52.000 Right, yeah. You have nothing against me.

00:26:54.000 What leverage do they have? What leverage?

00:26:56.000 Exactly. Because that's all they have.

00:26:58.000 They go after you. They get your money.

00:27:00.000 It's like, I don't care about none of this anymore.

00:27:03.000 Right. What about Alan?

00:27:04.000 You haven't done a hard time, right?

00:27:06.000 In jail? No, not in jail.

00:27:08.000 But he's on the Interpol Red Notice.

00:27:09.000 You are on the Interpol. Well, you're canceled from almost...

00:27:12.000 So you and I share your band from PayPal.

00:27:15.000 Yeah, PayPal, YouTube.

00:27:17.000 YouTube. What about Shopify? Well, I don't know if you remember...

00:27:19.000 OnlyFans. Oh, that's right.

00:27:21.000 OnlyFans? That requires... 0.74

00:27:23.000 Elon Musk laughed a lot.

00:27:24.000 Explaining. But good for you.

00:27:27.000 Yeah, so what happened was...

00:27:29.000 First, I was banned from YouTube, and the reason was ridiculous.

00:27:34.000 I post a video from C-SPAN, Trump explaining that he wants everything peaceful.

00:27:41.000 Remember the first time he showed up?

00:27:44.000 Peacefully and patriotically. Yes.

00:27:45.000 It was on after January 6th.

00:27:47.000 And that was a C-SPAN video, okay?

00:27:50.000 Right. And the YouTube tagged that video, a promotion of a criminal organization.

00:27:55.000 Just let this sink in for a second.

00:28:00.000 YouTube banned a journalist in Brazil speaking Portuguese because he published the video of Donald Trump after January 6th.

00:28:10.000 In Brazil. A video that was...

00:28:13.000 From C-SPAN. C-SPAN video.

00:28:15.000 Yep. A state company of the United States.

00:28:18.000 Yep. We had that happen with us, too.

00:28:20.000 But in Brazil.

00:28:21.000 Why would they care about it?

00:28:24.000 About a U.S. election.

00:28:25.000 Yeah. Is it about, how comes that, oh, it's to guarantee public safety in Brazil?

00:28:30.000 In the video about Canal in Cuba asking to beat the riots in Cuba was on air.

00:28:41.000 Right, yeah. So it's totally political.

00:28:45.000 So that was the first time we lost our YouTube channel.

00:28:48.000 I won Google in Brazilian court.

00:28:50.000 So my channel got back.

00:28:53.000 Only in Brazil.

00:28:55.000 Let me guess, not monetized.

00:28:57.000 Not monetized. And I won a case against Google in Brazil.

00:29:02.000 So my channel got back only in Brazil, not outside of Brazil.

00:29:06.000 And then I decided to cover the US election.

00:29:09.000 But before I decided that, I just came in Brazil.

00:29:14.000 I was just coming back from CPAC. 2020.

00:29:19.000 And the MRI sees my house.

00:29:21.000 My wife was pregnant. 0.91

00:29:23.000 Raid at his house. Raid at his house.

00:29:25.000 Raid at his house. At least at your house they rang the doorbell.

00:29:28.000 Ice. Ice. Different.

00:29:29.000 But not mine.

00:29:31.000 No, not yours. No, the Brazilian federal police actually raided his house with rifles and at gunpoint with his wife pregnant.

00:29:40.000 My wife was pregnant. 0.91

00:29:41.000 Nine months pregnant. And the second raid...

00:29:45.000 Pedro, who was the womb of my wife, he was just born.

00:29:49.000 I mean, I had two raids between two months.

00:29:54.000 And were both of these raids predicated on that C-SPAN video?

00:29:58.000 No, no, no. This is about fake news, inquiry in the Supreme Court in Brazil.

00:30:06.000 And after that happened, I was talking to people in Brazil.

00:30:09.000 People are not going to understand that.

00:30:11.000 Yeah, it's crazy. And it's very hard to unpack.

00:30:14.000 No, it's crazy because Bolsonaro was president back then.

00:30:17.000 Bolsonaro was president, yeah.

00:30:19.000 But in a nutshell, the Brazilian Supreme Court...

00:30:23.000 Moraes. Moraes is the chief, the rapporteur of this investigation.

00:30:29.000 They open, it's a court that opened an investigation against fake news in the country.

00:30:37.000 So because of that investigation, that's the one that Elon Musk is now being investigated in Brazil.

00:30:44.000 Yeah, he's in the same inquiry.

00:30:45.000 In the same inquiry, same probe.

00:30:47.000 They opened this probe And it's the Supreme Court.

00:30:51.000 So when he says, well, the Supreme Court raided, the federal police raided my house, they raided his house on orders of demorize on the Supreme Court.

00:31:02.000 So it's like, I don't know, Alito decided to start raiding someone else's house to investigate fake news, and there's nothing in the Brazilian law about fake news.

00:31:14.000 Without trial, without indictment, nothing.

00:31:17.000 I never have been indicted or in a trial about fake news or something like that.

00:31:22.000 Right. So they raid my house twice.

00:31:24.000 I saw that Brazil was going down in the hill in direction to the hell. 1.00

00:31:29.000 And I said, okay, now I'm more decided to cover the U.S. election.

00:31:35.000 And I was thinking about improving my company and to grow my company for the U.S. audience.

00:31:44.000 1.3 million followers, my channel used to be back then.

00:31:49.000 and when I started to do these things here in the United States, they decided to order my arrest.

00:31:57.000 It's extradiction, I'll say. Yeah, so arrest. Which the US government denied. Yeah, US denied.

00:32:11.000 That's nice. Yeah, take the small wins. Department of Justice. Yeah. We had an idiot mayor from 1.00

00:32:16.000 Detroit who may or may not have killed hookers in the mayoral mansion with his wife, and then he 1.00

00:32:22.000 landed in Texas and he was surprised that he was arrested.

00:32:26.000 I was like, you think they have to extradite you?

00:32:28.000 Detroit to Texas? So I'm familiar a little bit with extradition laws, but I'm glad to hear that the Biden administration didn't grant it.

00:32:35.000 It's actually interesting.

00:32:36.000 They sent, because Brazil made a big case out of it, there was a Russian asset.

00:32:43.000 Lula da Silva said to his partners and government people, the news says...

00:32:53.000 We have got some source from the government saying Lula da Silva wants to exchange Alan dos Santos with the Russian agent that the United States wants.

00:33:04.000 It's such a bad trade.

00:33:07.000 That's like Brittany Griner for the Merchant of Death. 0.99

00:33:10.000 I don't care what your...

00:33:12.000 That's not a good trade. 0.99

00:33:13.000 A shitty basketball player? 0.97

00:33:15.000 It shows how much they want an Allen. 1.00

00:33:16.000 Yeah. They hate me a lot.

00:33:18.000 Yeah. So then...

00:33:20.000 They hate me a lot.

00:33:26.000 Basically trying to end your life, but these are the waters we swim in, right?

00:33:29.000 Sometimes it sounds outlandish or unbelievable to people.

00:33:32.000 It's not to you because you've been through it.

00:33:34.000 It's not to you because you've been through it, but there are people out there who are just like, oh, okay, this is drama.

00:33:39.000 No, this happens.

00:33:40.000 People are silenced. People lose their livelihoods.

00:33:42.000 Wars were fought over significantly less.

00:33:45.000 We are that frog in a boiling pot.

00:33:47.000 You have no idea how fast things collapse.

00:33:50.000 But I stood up, and I stood up, and I fought back.

00:33:53.000 For example, the day they raid my house, I went in front of the Supreme Court building, and I put my middle finger on it, and I took a picture.

00:34:03.000 And when the MRIs ordered my arrest, I went to the Disney, in front of the Mickey Mouse and Minnie and all that stuff, and I said, you want to know where I am at?

00:34:15.000 You can ask Mickey, Minnie.

00:34:17.000 You can ask... I wonder why they hate him so much.

00:34:23.000 Now you know why they hate me.

00:34:25.000 I appreciate it. Because once you comply with fear, they go forward.

00:34:32.000 Right. And they go after your friends and after your family and so forth.

00:34:39.000 You need to stand... 0.99

00:34:41.000 Yeah, and say get the f*** out of here. 0.99

00:34:43.000 Yeah, you're fighting against a man a father of a family I'm not your your cheese in and the people you are used to to Yellow and they just knew right in front of you I'm not these kind of a shit you are used to there so and there are so many people both in the United States and I will say in Brazil to it being around enough Brazilians, but what I've noticed is a lot of them have that sort of that They want to have that freedom mindset, but they just don't. 0.99

00:35:09.000 There's a kernel of it, but they don't really know what's happening.

00:35:12.000 A lot of Brazilians here in the United States, in my experience.

00:35:15.000 And their eyes can be opened if you explain it to them.

00:35:17.000 But it seems like a lot of Brazilians, at least here stateside, don't take a super active role.

00:35:23.000 And it's kind of like, eh, it's not an interest of mine.

00:35:25.000 Which obviously is a lot of Americans, but that's been my experience.

00:35:28.000 But Brazil works the same way.

00:35:29.000 I mean, if you are in Brazil, you don't know anything about Argentina election or politicians.

00:35:34.000 But he means Brazilian. I mean, Brazilians haven't taken a huge interest in Brazilian politics.

00:35:38.000 But it's a domestic thing.

00:35:40.000 What Paulo said in the beginning is very important.

00:35:44.000 People... I mean, let us put it this way.

00:35:46.000 Every Brazilian, every American, every Canadian, they have their own domestic problem to solve. 0.80

00:35:53.000 And because we are not internationalists like the Marxists, because to be a Marxist, you need to be internationalists.

00:36:03.000 So we care about our country, but if we care about our country and we do not pay attention to what is going on outside...

00:36:11.000 You are the next victim of the Marxists because they're working together.

00:36:17.000 So if our enemy is working together, we need to find a way to work.

00:36:23.000 I don't like the word working together, but we need to find a way to know each other and see what our enemy is doing because the enemy is the same.

00:36:33.000 The problems are the same.

00:36:35.000 I mean, what they are doing against Brazil, what they are doing against Argentina, what they are doing against Chile, they are doing against the U.S. people too.

00:36:43.000 So, if the American people see what is going on in the United States, they could understand better how to solve their own problems.

00:36:50.000 For example, I'm going to put one problem here that's very common among Americans, and I saw this movie before in Brazil.

00:36:59.000 Yes. You said one problem very common in America.

00:37:01.000 I thought it was obesity. Obesity, no.

00:37:02.000 So, for example, communists, they basically do not create problems.

00:37:10.000 They master how to see a problem inside the society, and they boost the problem.

00:37:18.000 Right. So they are not the creator of the problems.

00:37:23.000 Because what kind of discussion problem do you have in North Korea?

00:37:27.000 Right? None.

00:37:29.000 Because people over there cannot complain, they cannot discuss, they cannot debate.

00:37:33.000 So you just have this kind of a conflict in free countries, right?

00:37:37.000 So what communism does is...

00:37:41.000 A communist agent...

00:37:43.000 He looked at the issue, the problem, he pretended to help both sides and boost the problem to a certain point that would be unsolvable.

00:37:55.000 You cannot solve the problem.

00:37:56.000 The government steps in and now here's your savior.

00:37:59.000 Yeah. And doing it, they are very good at putting disagreement.

00:38:07.000 Not disagreement. I mean, they know how to make friends fight against each other.

00:38:13.000 Right. Like, for example, let us say in Brazil right now, we have people willing to go to the street, right?

00:38:20.000 Right. We're good to go.

00:38:38.000 I see the same thing in the United States.

00:38:42.000 People fighting against each other just because of the...

00:38:45.000 This is a figure of speech, but I don't like your mustache.

00:38:48.000 I don't like your beard.

00:38:50.000 I don't like your hairstyle.

00:38:51.000 I don't like the way you dress.

00:38:53.000 I don't like the way you talk.

00:38:54.000 And then they make a deal.

00:38:57.000 They make a big deal on this stuff while the enemy is getting stronger.

00:39:03.000 Right. Well, let's talk about the enemy getting stronger.

00:39:06.000 So Lula has buddied up, for people who don't realize, I think Americans can be removed from this a little bit because we have such a big country, right?

00:39:12.000 And even then, if you go to sort of North America, you're still talking about the United States and people who are kind of ancillary, right?

00:39:19.000 Where you are surrounded by a bunch of other countries where you either have to have alliances or in some cases in South America, right?

00:39:25.000 You have enemies. With Lula, he's buddied up with, people may not realize this, Brazil, most important country in South America, a lot of other dictators, right?

00:39:34.000 That's something that people may not necessarily realize.

00:39:36.000 So, is it Venezuela?

00:39:40.000 There's talk about invading Guyana.

00:39:44.000 And is that because of oil reserves?

00:39:47.000 Effectively? Yes. So what would happen, for example, that's Maduro, for people who don't remember, by the way.

00:39:51.000 Would Lula be a supporter of Maduro, for example, in that kind of a conflict?

00:39:55.000 Because that's the kind of a conflict that Americans would be removed from.

00:39:57.000 At least coverly.

00:39:59.000 I would say now, and that's how crazy it is, and that connects to what I was saying in the beginning.

00:40:05.000 I think if World War III happened now, Brazil wouldn't be on the side of the United States.

00:40:12.000 At all? I don't want to say it would necessarily openly support the other side with China and whoever, but it wouldn't be on the U.S. side.

00:40:22.000 It would maybe be neutral and helping China behind the scenes, but definitely wouldn't be...

00:40:27.000 But if World War III broke out with Biden as president, I think he'd be on China's side.

00:40:32.000 At least half of the Democrats would be on China's side. 0.89

00:40:37.000 Yeah. No, I've said that about America, too, where for the first time, at least in my lifetime, you know, we're a flawed country, but in many ways, we could find ourselves on the wrong side of history.

00:40:45.000 I mean, we find ourselves on the wrong side of history in mutilating and transitioning children. 1.00

00:40:49.000 We find ourselves on the wrong side of history of kneecapping people who are protecting their own citizens who've been kidnapped and raped, you know, when you're talking about it.

00:40:56.000 We're on the wrong side of history when you look at propping up corrupt governments.

00:41:00.000 And I'm not saying that Russia in any way is noble, but I'm saying if you look at the history of Ukraine, what we've done in the United States.

00:41:06.000 But they use that. Right.

00:41:07.000 They use it. They use it.

00:41:08.000 And they say, look, look how crazy these guys became.

00:41:11.000 We're the good guys. Right.

00:41:12.000 We're the good guys. We're not mutilating our children.

00:41:16.000 We know the difference between men and women. 1.00

00:41:19.000 We don't allow drug addicts having supervised heroin taken like they do in New York.

00:41:27.000 Right. The world used to be like that.

00:41:30.000 You used to be able to look at America and see, well, is that the motto I want to follow?

00:41:35.000 Or look at the Soviet Union and see, well, is that the motto I'm going to follow? 0.64

00:41:38.000 And the U.S. used to be the free world, so everybody would look up to America.

00:41:42.000 Now, if you're in Brazil and you look up to America, is that the motto I want to follow?

00:41:48.000 No, maybe no. Maybe I want to follow the Russian or the Chinese motto.

00:41:52.000 It's less freedom, but look at what all this freedom did to the United States.

00:41:57.000 Right. And all that's done on purpose.

00:42:01.000 Right. It's a fact.

00:42:04.000 You can read The Naked Communist, 1958, and you see everything was planned to happen this way. 0.81

00:42:11.000 Let's destroy the family. 0.96

00:42:12.000 Let's destroy church. 1.00

00:42:14.000 Let's destroy society. 0.60

00:42:15.000 Let's take over the unions. 0.95

00:42:17.000 Let's take over the media outlets.

00:42:19.000 It was all planned. Right.

00:42:21.000 So nothing that's happening in the United States is by...

00:42:25.000 Right. It's not that they were lucky.

00:42:28.000 They infiltrated agents, the Soviet Union infiltrated agents.

00:42:32.000 To this day, the crazy environmental propaganda.

00:42:35.000 We have enough evidence that Russians supported a lot of NGOs in the United States and in Europe with this crazy environmental agenda. 0.95

00:42:44.000 Mm-hmm. And the Chinese did it well. 0.63

00:42:47.000 How many U.S. university work programs are funded by China, directly or indirectly?

00:42:52.000 Right. Do you know who the biggest funder, the biggest foreign entity, well, the biggest foreign funder of American Education Institute, do you know who it is?

00:43:01.000 It's Qatar. Guitar, it's not even close. 0.83

00:43:04.000 You want to say that they share values?

00:43:07.000 That's the problem with the whole hold hands, we are the world.

00:43:09.000 I talk about this all the time. It sounds nice, but we are not the world.

00:43:12.000 The world has been at war since the beginning of time.

00:43:14.000 There is nothing virtuous about saying we are the world.

00:43:17.000 Well, hold on a second. The world includes child sex trafficking, and not only legal, but mandated in certain places.

00:43:23.000 Child brides. The world is an evil, dark, f***ing place. 1.00

00:43:27.000 Pardon my language, but to drive that point home. 0.98

00:43:29.000 So to say we are the world is to say we're tolerant of the deepest, darkest evils that exist in the world.

00:43:35.000 And I don't think that people give that a lot of thought.

00:43:38.000 And it brings me to another point.

00:43:39.000 So Brazil, okay, this is a tough pill to swallow. 0.99

00:43:43.000 But you also see, I mean, my personal favorite, Malay, right, when you talk about Argentina. 1.00

00:43:47.000 It's our favorite, too. Yeah, is it?

00:43:48.000 Okay. I forget the name of El Salvador.

00:43:52.000 Bukele? Yes. Yeah, I was just speaking with a lady, a teller at the bank about him.

00:43:55.000 She was El Salvadorian, and she said, oh, yeah, we're big, big, big fans.

00:43:58.000 Is there, outside of Brazil, is there potentially a red wave?

00:44:04.000 And would that kind of, let's say, alliance be enough to stop...

00:44:09.000 Someone like Alula and Maduro if they were to become an alliance.

00:44:13.000 Like, is there enough to stop the storm that's coming?

00:44:16.000 Well, there's a book I like a lot.

00:44:18.000 It's called National Populism, The Revolt Against Liberal Democracy.

00:44:24.000 It was written by two leftists, like semi-liberal guys, professors.

00:44:32.000 Yeah, it's like leftists.

00:44:33.000 But the book's very good.

00:44:35.000 And they say, well, what's going on in the world right now is that people were just fed up with this so-called liberal democracy when you see all these big corporations making billions of dollars.

00:44:48.000 And you see all these people in power getting away with stuff and doing whatever they want.

00:44:53.000 And you see all these bureaucrats that we don't elect making rules that change our lives.

00:44:59.000 That was true in Europe.

00:45:04.000 Revolted. You see all the people, the blue-collar workers, the farmers, they were like, we don't agree with that.

00:45:11.000 And these guys are getting away with stuff, and they're getting richer and more powerful, and we have no say in our own lives.

00:45:18.000 So they revolted.

00:45:20.000 And you see that starting in 2015 with the Brexit in Europe, and you see the Donald Trump in the U.S., and you have Macri in Argentina before Millet, and you had...

00:45:31.000 Of course, Bolsonaro and Brazil and a bunch of populist conservatives won.

00:45:38.000 What happened after that?

00:45:40.000 Well, after that, the left said, well, it looks like we're not going to win elections anymore.

00:45:49.000 There's something going on that we didn't notice because we used to control the media.

00:45:54.000 We used to control Hollywood.

00:45:56.000 How come they're winning elections?

00:45:57.000 Oh, well, that's because of social media.

00:46:00.000 So they started to do two things.

00:46:03.000 One was, well, let's censor conservative speech.

00:46:07.000 And let's try to influence the electoral process as much as we can.

00:46:14.000 And then you had COVID.

00:46:16.000 And during the pandemic.

00:46:18.000 You saw all the liberties, like, disappear.

00:46:24.000 It's like, you have taxes, like, keeping people in their homes.

00:46:28.000 Yeah, and I was going to say not enough of a fight put up by American conservatives.

00:46:32.000 It took some time.

00:46:34.000 Yeah, they were broadcasting from their basement.

00:46:35.000 I had conservative people out there call me, because we started doing two-a-days.

00:46:38.000 We did mug club quarantine, where we did two shows a day as opposed to one.

00:46:42.000 I remember that. And I had people call me up on the scene and say, you know, you really shouldn't do that.

00:46:46.000 This is why we lose, because people like you make us seem crazy.

00:46:49.000 I'm going, I make you seem crazy by...

00:46:51.000 I had a conversation with everyone at this office, and I said, look, this is happening.

00:46:57.000 I know that some of you guys are removed from this, but, you know, this is how we keep the lights on.

00:47:01.000 And if you don't want to come in, we will keep you on staff as long as we can.

00:47:05.000 But I'm going to come into work.

00:47:07.000 Who wants to come into work?

00:47:08.000 And I want to do two-a-days. Everyone said, yep, let's go.

00:47:11.000 So for me to get those calls and for me to get those texts from other conservatives, either broadcasting from their basement or producing from staying at home, that changed me.

00:47:20.000 It fundamentally changed me because that is something that I kind of can't take.

00:47:25.000 I expect the left, you know, I was a scorpion when you met me.

00:47:28.000 But I thought we were all on the same team and we weren't.

00:47:30.000 That really only happens because you still have half the country who really should, or they do at least believe what we believe, but not the people who carry their mantle.

00:47:39.000 There shouldn't be a lockdown in Texas.

00:47:43.000 I mean, we were in Florida, so it was a little bit better, but even in Florida we had like a little less than two months of lockdown.

00:47:49.000 Right. What happened on that is that, well, a lot of small business never recovered.

00:47:56.000 Never. Never. A lot of people lost their job.

00:47:59.000 You had a lot of family problems with drugs, with alcohol, psychiatric problems as well.

00:48:06.000 Sure. Kids that never got the proper development, and they will never recover from these years.

00:48:11.000 You don't get those formative years back.

00:48:12.000 Exactly. And people, instead of getting less revolted with the, let's call it establishment, They got more revoted.

00:48:22.000 And now, if you look at what happened in the elections in Europe, it's mind-blowing.

00:48:28.000 Because Europe is the place of leftism.

00:48:33.000 It's like everyone in Europe is secular, leftist.

00:48:37.000 They control everything.

00:48:39.000 And even controlling everything, they managed to lose the European election for the parliament.

00:48:45.000 And you're seeing more and more conservative right-wing parties winning in Europe.

00:48:52.000 Of course, you had Orban in Hungary, but you had Meloni in Italy.

00:48:59.000 You had the Siga in Portugal.

00:49:01.000 You had the Vox in Spain.

00:49:04.000 And the conservatives were gaining space there.

00:49:07.000 And if you look right now, You have in Argentina, Millet, which became a rock star.

00:49:13.000 Bukele winning with like 90-something percent of the ballots.

00:49:17.000 Right. And if you look at all the polls, Bolsonaro, even, he can't run legally, he can't run for president anymore.

00:49:25.000 Yeah, of course not. But he's still, yeah, because they...

00:49:27.000 They know he'd win. Exactly.

00:49:29.000 He's winning all the polls.

00:49:31.000 Just look at this, I keep saying this, if Donald...

00:49:34.000 If Bolsonaro goes to the street, and if he calls people to go to the street, that's going to be massive.

00:49:39.000 Last time he did it, we had one million people on the streets of Sao Paulo.

00:49:44.000 That was like a couple months ago.

00:49:45.000 Their argument is...

00:49:47.000 Because the leftists want to destroy sovereignty in every country.

00:49:52.000 The globalists left, they want to destroy the sovereignty in every country.

00:49:57.000 They have this revolutionary idea that they know better what people want.

00:50:05.000 Right. So they have this kind of idea that people are so dumb and so childish, they cannot decide what is good for them anymore. 0.98

00:50:15.000 So they want to destroy the sovereignty and make... 0.97

00:50:18.000 They keep the name country, but it's not a country anymore.

00:50:22.000 It's not a nation.

00:50:24.000 So the change that has been made in their perspective, and I'm saying that because we

00:50:31.000 need to discuss about it to American people.

00:50:34.000 Yes. We need to apply what the UN decided.

00:51:09.000 Not what the Congress decided for their own people.

00:51:14.000 We need to pay attention on it because there is no other country in the world that has a medicine or remedy for that unless the United States.

00:51:25.000 And this is because of the United States Constitution.

00:51:28.000 Paulo used a figure of speech that I love.

00:51:31.000 The virus is the same.

00:51:35.000 The virus that they apply in Brazil, in the United States, in every country, the virus is the same.

00:51:40.000 And the time they have been applied this virus is the same too.

00:51:45.000 But the problem is, the problem for the left is, the United States immune system is way stronger than any other country.

00:51:56.000 Why? Because the United States Constitution was never repeated.

00:52:01.000 Not even French Revolution.

00:52:03.000 People think, oh, French Revolution started after the United States and then it's a good republic.

00:52:11.000 It's not at all. Those are people who haven't really studied the French Revolution and its results, right?

00:52:16.000 They've seen Les Miserables and they go, you have no idea what it happened.

00:52:21.000 Paul was saying democracy could be, what did he say?

00:52:25.000 Democracy would be gone or dead?

00:52:27.000 Yeah, it could be over.

00:52:29.000 We had a good run.

00:52:31.000 For me, I hate the word democracy because words can be used in different sense, different meanings.

00:52:38.000 And the United States doesn't have the democracy word in the Constitution for a reason.

00:52:44.000 And republic is the word.

00:52:46.000 And republic is not the opposite of monarchy, by the way.

00:52:50.000 I mean, if you go back to the scholasticism text or even the modern time, I mean, I'm talking about 18th century or 17th century, the word republic was used for the common good.

00:53:06.000 And the United States is the only one country in the world that people put a finger in the face of government.

00:53:15.000 You can't do this, you can't do that.

00:53:17.000 And we do not have that kind of constitution in other countries.

00:53:22.000 So in order to reproduce the revolution the communists or the liberals are doing

00:53:28.000 in the whole world the United States is the only one place that can fight back.

00:53:33.000 So what Paulo said and people here in the United States need to understand that if

00:53:38.000 this country the only one country that has the medicine the tool the way to

00:53:45.000 fight back if this country falls there is no other place.

00:53:49.000 So and then we need to go to Elon Musk and say how to go to Mars. Let me ask

00:53:55.000 you before it before we go on because we will go to Mug Club too but you know give 0.54

00:53:59.000 me some examples of the American left in Brazil because you touched on that.

00:54:03.000 And I do have just a handful of notes here, but like the Sao Paulo reform and, for example, the road to socialism, where these sort of experiments, specifically the United States, the American left, sticking their oar in, in Brazil.

00:54:15.000 Yeah, so Sao Paulo's Forum was created back in 1990 by Fidel Castro and Lula da Silva.

00:54:23.000 They created this forum to make the socialists...

00:54:28.000 It's a meeting. Yeah, it's a meeting in South America to make the communists not depending that much from Russia anymore.

00:54:36.000 Right. So Castro and Lula, they had this kind of dream that we can do what Russia is giving up to with the perestroika and other stuff. 0.59

00:54:48.000 I think your audience will understand per strike, right?

00:54:51.000 Right, yeah, yeah. Okay, so...

00:54:53.000 Also that the Russians were banging too many of their Cuban women. 0.99

00:54:56.000 That was probably part of the motivation. 0.93

00:54:58.000 They're smart of them. Yeah, they were showing up, they were going like, oh, what is this?

00:55:02.000 Cubans are way better than Russians. 1.00

00:55:04.000 Yes, generally. And when they created this organization, this criminal organization, they want to work together with the drug dealers and taking over the bureaucracy inside every country and taking over of the countries through election, not through army and revolution anymore.

00:55:25.000 So not through violence, but through corruption.

00:55:29.000 And when they did it, they have been helped by a lot of socialists in the United States.

00:55:37.000 So you mentioned on road socialism.

00:55:40.000 Road socialism is a program written in the Communist Party of the United States.

00:55:47.000 So if you don't believe in me, go to the Communist Party of the United States program called Road Socialism.

00:55:54.000 And that was way before Macri and before Donald Trump.

00:55:59.000 And they named the countries that could turn into right-wing, they say Nazi.

00:56:05.000 So I'm translating.

00:56:07.000 So they knew that something could happen in Chile, Argentina, and Brazil.

00:56:13.000 Again, the ABC countries.

00:56:16.000 And in order to stop the right-wing people, they knew they needed to have the help From the socialist United States.

00:56:26.000 So this is why Bernie Sanders personally named the officer that could be in the US ambassador in Brazil.

00:56:36.000 So Bernie Sanders, he did it.

00:56:39.000 Also a big supporter of Chavez.

00:56:42.000 People didn't remember Bernie Sanders.

00:56:43.000 Yeah, he's totally, he's a fully communist.

00:56:46.000 Yes. And he has connection in Brazil.

00:56:50.000 Very well connected.

00:56:52.000 Very well connected. Bernie Sanders?

00:56:53.000 Yes. Bernie Sanders. What Paulo was trying to do in the U.S. Congress to put a light in the Brazilian situation, Brazilian tyranny, he was facing a hard time to talk with the Congress right-wing politicians in the United States because they have no clue about anything in Brazil.

00:57:15.000 But one week before...

00:57:17.000 Believe it or not, other than Chris Smith...

00:57:20.000 No one even wanted to listen. Now they do a little bit. It's better.

00:57:24.000 But the Christmas, which is a congressman from New Jersey, a Republican,

00:57:29.000 he was the only one that, since the beginning, was like, oh, this is a serious human rights issue.

00:57:34.000 And he started gathering a little bit of support.

00:57:36.000 But I think the point Alan is making is that the Brazilian left, they come to the U.S.,

00:57:43.000 they get meetings immediately with Bernie Sanders, senators.

00:57:46.000 They get resolutions approved in Senate.

00:57:49.000 They get red carpet treatment in the United States.

00:57:53.000 The Brazilian conservatives, I came with a delegation of 20 Brazilian congressmen to the Capitol, and we couldn't get a hearing with a congressman, with a single congressman from the Republicans.

00:58:04.000 It doesn't surprise me. I wish it did, but it doesn't.

00:58:06.000 Exactly. So what he's saying is that the left has all the connections in place.

00:58:11.000 They support... Soros is funding all the left's initiatives in Brazil.

00:58:15.000 We don't have any billionaire, not even fracking billionaires, supporting conservatives in Brazil.

00:58:22.000 Right. At all. Again, because of this difference on philosophy.

00:58:26.000 And by the way, to frame... We're doing it very poorly.

00:58:42.000 Yeah. Elon Musk won't even remove the sanctions.

00:58:46.000 No, I don't even have a Tesla.

00:58:51.000 You got some right.

00:58:53.000 But no, that's the thing is the right, and I will say this too, you know,

00:58:53.000 Yeah.

00:58:56.000 kind of if this analogy is apt with the left, have you ever had someone in your family

00:59:01.000 who's just a master manipulator, someone who will constantly,

00:59:05.000 and you'll notice with these people, they will be really close with someone one second,

00:59:10.000 and then they're really close with somebody else, and they'll turn you against each other,

00:59:12.000 and you'll see it within a family, like why is she or he really close with my sister,

00:59:15.000 and now they're no longer friends, or my best friend, and they're no longer friends,

00:59:18.000 and then five years later, all of a sudden they're best friends again.

00:59:21.000 The left is really quick to, oh wait, a potential ally, all right, let's use them.

00:59:25.000 That's where globalism comes in handy, because you can now,

00:59:28.000 since you don't care about your own national interests, A globalist in America has the same problem as a globalist in Brazil. 0.96

00:59:33.000 Globalist in Brazil doesn't give a shit about Brazil any more than the globalist in America cares about America. 0.91

00:59:37.000 So everyone else outside is a useful tool. 0.98

00:59:40.000 And today, that could be Argentina, that could be Venezuela, tomorrow maybe Chile.

00:59:45.000 Maybe tomorrow it's Canada.

00:59:47.000 Because you have no loyalty.

00:59:48.000 You don't care. And so you can use all of these alliances that are interchangeable to manipulate because your true north is not some kind of national interest.

00:59:57.000 And it is kind of an anchor.

00:59:59.000 And they make a lot of money in the meantime.

01:00:00.000 And they do, yes. And there's no anchor to almost an albatross around the neck of conservatives because they do ultimately have to, if they are true conservatives, come back to caring about the nation.

01:00:11.000 And so that does cut out a good portion of the globe.

01:00:14.000 As an ally that you can just use and manipulate.

01:00:16.000 You know who was number two ally in the U.S. Senate of Lula?

01:00:21.000 Of Lula? Yeah. Number one was Bernie Sanders.

01:00:24.000 Number two was Bob Menendez.

01:00:25.000 Oh. I used to debate his daughter every single weekend on Fox News.

01:00:30.000 Really? We had a segment.

01:00:32.000 Oh, yeah. Is she her daughter?

01:00:33.000 Yeah, Bob Menendez's daughter.

01:00:35.000 Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah.

01:00:36.000 And then they told her she's- The Democrats has a lot of parents.

01:00:38.000 Yeah. And then one day they said she doesn't want to do it anymore.

01:00:42.000 Okay. So the segment was gone.

01:00:44.000 I was like, well, can we find someone else? Like, I don't know, maybe.

01:00:47.000 Maybe she got some gold bars. 0.98

01:00:48.000 Yeah, exactly. She could be.

01:00:50.000 It's funny that a Democrat was the one.

01:00:51.000 It's usually the Republicans who are selling gold.

01:00:53.000 But I do want to continue this on Mug Club.

01:00:56.000 Alan DeSantos and Paulo Figueiredo, just before we go, let people know where to follow.

01:01:00.000 I know your show was on Rumble, and you have two X's.

01:01:02.000 We'll put those up. Alan, best place for people to support you.

01:01:05.000 Yes, it's on my Twitter, on my Axe.

01:01:09.000 You still say Twitter sometimes.

01:01:11.000 You would have to say Axe formally known as Twitter.

01:01:14.000 Yes, exactly. But I would like to just make a statement here.

01:01:20.000 Yes. I passed three and a half years without my daughter and my family waiting them here because of the tyranny I faced in Brazil.

01:01:29.000 If the US want to understand how dangerous is to become Brazil, and if they think that never would happen to them, be careful.

01:01:43.000 Because what they are doing here in the United States is entirely what we face in Brazil. 0.95

01:01:50.000 We are just like, you know, back to the future and stuff.

01:01:53.000 It's just like, guys, be careful.

01:01:55.000 What happened in our country, it is happening here.

01:01:59.000 And we see every single move is the same.

01:02:02.000 Every single move.

01:02:04.000 So be careful.

01:02:05.000 Brazil is a cautionary tale. 0.74

01:02:07.000 Yes. The US left is as crazy as the Brazilian left. 1.00

01:02:11.000 The only difference is that the immune system in the US is stronger than Brazil. 0.99

01:02:14.000 Yep. No, you're absolutely right.

01:02:16.000 And coming from Canada, I've lived that far too closely, where I tell people a different way of saying that.

01:02:21.000 I say, look, don't look to what the left does in this country.

01:02:25.000 Look to what they would do if left completely unfettered.

01:02:28.000 You see Canada. You see places where there were actual quarantine camps.

01:02:32.000 You see Brazil. Don't look to what the left can accomplish with the immune system we have.

01:02:36.000 Look to what the left can accomplish in this country if they successfully do away with the

01:02:40.000 immune system. And we already have sexual mutilation of six-year-old boys and girls.

01:02:46.000 And we already have funding of foreign wars. And we already have elections that at the very least

01:02:51.000 are not transparent. We already have that right now. And they do not have the unfettered power

01:02:54.000 that they want. So it is... And it's changing fast. Yeah.

01:02:57.000 It's more fragile than people realize.

01:02:59.000 Way more fragile. I've been in this country for 10 years.

01:03:02.000 They take the Supreme Court, it's gone.

01:03:03.000 It's gone. The Supreme Court is like, it's really, really important.

01:03:07.000 Yeah. Or if they win the next election, if they were to win it, steal it, and then pack the court and add seats.

01:03:13.000 That result is the same.

01:03:14.000 It's the same? It's absolutely terrifying.

01:03:16.000 Well, I want to continue this on Mug Club, and it's not just a cautionary tale, right?

01:03:20.000 It could end up Going the right way of history with Brazil and the United States.

01:03:25.000 Right now it's a little bit tough, but Malay's fun.

01:03:27.000 He looks like a Dickens character.

01:03:28.000 I'm an optimist. Yes.

01:03:30.000 I'm an optimist. I think Donald Trump will be elected, and I think the world will, for the first time, fight back the establishment a little bit.

01:03:40.000 Yeah. I hope so.

01:03:42.000 I hope so. I know that he would if the Constitution was still worth the paper that it's printed on today.

01:03:49.000 Donald Trump wins. We all know that.

01:03:51.000 And the left knows that. It's kind of like, you know, and we'll talk about this fighting and jujitsu, and we'll get there because you're wrong.

01:03:58.000 But you don't just look to what the fighters...

01:04:02.000 Before Mug Club, with everyone watching, we have twice my size, and I'll still beat you. 0.94

01:04:08.000 Click right there on Rumble to continue watching on Mug Club.

Louder with Crowder - October 02, 2024

“Brazil is a Cautionary Tale” | Ash Wednesday with Paulo Figueiredo and Allan Dos Santos

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