In this episode, we discuss the news that Anderson Silva tested positive for two banned performance enhancing drugs, and what it means for his future in the sport of mixed martial arts. We also discuss the implications of the news, and whether or not it was intentional.
00:00:16.000There's a lot of speculation going on.
00:00:18.000What was your initial reaction when you heard it?
00:00:20.000Well, just to put it in perspective for everybody that maybe doesn't follow the news on Anderson as you're speaking of, but we're about 12 hours into this whole thing.
00:00:29.000So my opinion and your opinion, we need to reserve the right to change our opinion when we're confronted with New evidence, which is certainly going to happen as this thing continues on.
00:00:41.000But, you know, look, there's two sides to this here.
00:02:19.000According to what he's accused of, yes, he had, I believe it was two things in his system.
00:02:24.000I believe they are both illegal steroids, to my understanding.
00:02:27.000In America, he came from South America.
00:02:30.000Again, there could be some conversation on laws there, but by our standards and my understanding, yes, that's correct.
00:02:35.000One thing I will say, having read up on the drugs that Anderson did use, you know, one of those substances, if you look at it, actually one of its symptoms, one of the side effects, is that it can cause overcalcification.
00:02:47.000It can actually cause bones to become weaker and more prone to breaking.
00:02:56.000You have a bunch of mouth breathers who've never hit an armbar in their life on Sure Dog, acting like they're now medical experts or biochemists.
00:03:04.000But that is an actual side effect of that one drug that he had taken, which sort of makes it interesting.
00:03:09.000I know, listen, you hate to ever drag someone's name through the mud.
00:03:12.000Obviously, you've had some things happen, but it is a little bit fun as the news unfolds, let's be honest.
00:04:08.000We'll see how Anderson handles it, but I think when somebody, at least for me, when somebody tried to say things, even if it wasn't accurate, I think I still deserve it.
00:04:18.000If you test positive and somebody wants to run that back all the way to when I started my career at nine years old, I don't think that guy's wrong.
00:04:26.000Do you think Anderson was on something when you fought him?
00:04:32.000I can tell you on the substance issues, the rules get very blurred, and I'll tell you why.
00:04:38.000They have something now called out-of-competition testing.
00:04:42.000The rule used to be, and the rule when I started and came through, and one of the problems I had was not adapting to the changes, but it used to just be in-competition, meaning what's in your system on fight night.
00:04:56.000If you were to come in and go, hey, listen, I gotta tell you guys, when I was in high school, I did, and then fill in the blank, they go, oh, we don't care.
00:05:52.000If you're saying that a guy never took a banned substance in his life, that's a silly statement, particularly in the context that you and I just established, that Tylenol, caffeine, these things are all banned substances.
00:06:05.000But what about these substances that he was taking?
00:06:16.000We start to decline as humans and particularly as athletes right around 25 years old.
00:06:22.000If you're real lucky, you might push that to 27 or 28.
00:06:25.000The good news is science and medicine have come along and decided the world does not belong to 18 to 25 year olds, but that you can extend your career beyond that.
00:06:36.000So if you're asking me if he took something, there's two tests that you take, Stephen.
00:06:40.000The first test is not The urine drug test.