Vince Vince and Pops Crowder discuss the latest in the trade war between the United States and China. Plus, a new installment of The Nature Edition featuring the dire wolf and the question of the day: if you could be an animal, who or what animal would it be? Who or what would you be?
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00:03:10.000If you could unextinct, de-extinct, if you will, perhaps, you might, anyone or anything throughout all of human history of the animal kingdom, who or what would it be?
00:03:40.000At the Coho's Music Hall in Coho's, New York, April 25th, Funniest Man Alive, Nick DiPaolo, fresh off of his vacation in the Bahamas, swimming with pigs, actually.
00:04:17.000I, for some reason, thought the Bahamas were the Caribbean, and then I realized that a lot of places we thought were in the Caribbean are not.
00:04:25.000At least the way I, that's what I was told by the travel agent.
00:04:59.000All right, we have a lot to get to, but this is, so I haven't seen this, but apparently immaculate conception among lesbians, because it's 2025, is alive and well.
00:05:14.000overturned rovey weight my wife and i decided that we didn't want to risk getting pregnant and the only way to really prevent that was for both of us to close our legs it's not that we didn't want kids it's that we didn't want either one of us to fall pregnant and then there'd be complications and us not have access to medically
00:05:29.000necessary abortion and while we both had iud's at the time because we weren't ready to have a baby we still liked having the idea of an abortion as a backup plan just in case
00:05:39.000All this to say, we haven't had sex since 2021, but my wife is pregnant.
00:05:43.000Now you might be thinking, Cass, she definitely cheated on you.
00:05:47.000But she told me she didn't, and she's giving me no reason for me not to believe her.
00:07:20.000No. I thought that was the craziest part, and then she was like, well, and then we prayed about it, and we're like, well, if God wants us to have a baby, and I'm just like, okay, this got crazier for me.
00:07:28.000I thought it was as far as it could go.
00:08:14.000And I don't think that all loves are equivalent, just to be clear.
00:08:17.000Why? Well, because one can lead to, well, one can lead to, obviously, conception, giving birth, and rearing a child without an insane amount of confusion.
00:08:29.000Let's not act like they're equivalent.
00:09:11.000By the way, there is a new David Blaine show that I highly recommend on Discovery where he just goes around and he kisses a cobra or some shit.
00:09:18.000Really? It's not magic, but he goes and does fire breathing and chewing razors and he kissed a cobra.
00:09:24.000He's like, I've always wanted to kiss a cobra.
00:10:16.000It's a real thing, but the vote was 54-45, and then we'll show you who voted no.
00:10:21.000On this vote, the yeas are 54, the nays are 45, and the nomination is confirmed under the previous order to motion.
00:10:28.000The motion to reconsider is considered made and laid upon the table, and the president will be immediately notified of the Senate's actions.
00:10:35.000You just had to make it through two phrases, and you couldn't?
00:10:42.000Three Democrats who voted yes, and McConnell voted no.
00:10:47.000Surprise! Saying, abandoning Ukraine and Europe and downplaying the Middle East to prioritize the Indo-Pacific is not a clever geopolitical chess move.
00:10:56.000It is geostratic self-harm that emboldens our adversaries and drives wedges between America and our allies for them to exploit.
00:11:39.000Kobe, just to be clear, he's a hawk on China who has advocated for, in all references available, links in the description, an increased focus overall on China and the Asia Pacific, a decreased focus on Ukraine, increased defense spending from our allies specifically in Asia, and he actually made this statement at the confirmation hearing himself.
00:11:58.000Taiwan is very important to the United States, but as you said, it's not an existential interest.
00:12:28.000So we need to properly incentivize them.
00:12:30.000So together, that means that my focus has been, again, with the shooting the flare metaphor I used earlier, Senator, to get Taiwan motivated to avoid precipitating a conflict that is not necessary with Beijing and giving us time and space to be able to try to rectify this problem.
00:12:57.000And for those of you wondering, by the way, Colby Cheese originated in Colby, Wisconsin in 1885, developed by Joseph F. Steinone, who, of course, named it after the township where his father built the first cheese factory.
00:13:08.000And that's been this week's Cheese Facts.
00:14:06.000Let's... Let's talk about China right now because obviously we've discussed the tariffs and I know that people have tariff fatigue and I know the markets are pretty volatile.
00:14:13.000But I want to be clear about something here.
00:14:16.000The tariff war that is going on, it is necessary to avoid a real war.
00:14:28.000Do you doubt that the end game here Do you doubt that at some point the Western world is going to have to go to war with a communist dictatorship who, by the way, has said that they seek to destroy and undermine Western civilization?
00:14:53.000The Cold War was to avoid, obviously, actual war.
00:14:55.000Now, in that case, I would even argue that there was more miscommunication, there was more suspicion there, and Russia was not the kind of global superpower that China is in comparison to the United States.
00:15:06.000China has used our systems to subvert them, and they seek to destroy the United States.
00:16:00.000And there are more fantastic cigars now than ever before.
00:16:03.000It was actually so much a given that JFK, when he signed the embargo, that day, for people who don't know, he had his assistant go out and purchase 1,200 Petit Upman cigars before the embargo went into effect.
00:16:19.000Then, so at that point in time, people are going, well, say goodbye to cigars.
00:16:39.000What we do know, I would argue, and you can comment below, this ends in war with China unless something changes at some point, which I don't want.
00:16:48.000Now, if you doubt that, don't take my word for it.
00:16:53.000China has vowed to fight until the very end.
00:16:57.000Do you know what that means against the US?
00:16:59.000If the US overlooks the interests of the two countries and the international community and is determined to fight a tariff and a trade war, China's response will continue to the end.
00:17:14.000Remember, last month, China's foreign ministry said on X, if a war is what the U.S. wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war, or any other type of war, we're ready to fight till the end.
00:17:28.000Some tariffs kind of seem like we're getting out easy at this point, doesn't it?
00:17:31.000Yeah. It doesn't seem like, I mean, there's a bit of a trap that we're kind of all heading into with this, that China doesn't have any kind of an off-ramp.
00:17:38.000Based on what they're saying right now, we're going to fight to the end.
00:17:40.000I didn't realize the X-Post had that as well.
00:17:42.000I knew they would say any kind of war you want, but they're like, oh, we're ready to fight to the end.
00:17:45.000Okay. That's the posturing that's going on right now.
00:17:49.000Right. Hopefully, and I think Donald Trump knows how to do this, he gives them an off-ramp that helps them save face and we avoid the war, but we correct the economic problem.
00:17:58.000I hope we do, but we don't have an off-ramp.
00:18:01.000No. Unless we correct the economic problem.
00:18:15.000And they're coming out in parks and droves.
00:18:17.000It could happen, but it's not happening because of the tariffs.
00:18:20.000It's happening because it was going to happen anyway.
00:18:23.000There's never been a point in human history, aside from maybe the Cold War, where you have a world economic superpower and another one coming up with fundamentally different values, and they don't clash.
00:18:35.000The Greeks, the Romans, the Persians, the Ottomans, the Mongolians.
00:18:40.000And China absolutely and expressly, they state they hate everything that we're about and they want to use our systems to subvert and destroy our economic systems.
00:18:54.000This is not me pulling a McConnell or a Ukraine.
00:18:56.000I'm saying to avoid war, we have to uncouple from China.
00:19:01.000So yesterday, for those of you who missed it, The tariffs from President Trump became official, I guess today, midnight, including 104%, a massive rate on China.
00:19:13.000I just spoke to the president about this, and he believes that China wants to make a deal with the United States.
00:19:18.000He believes China has to make a deal with the United States.
00:19:21.000It was a mistake for China to retaliate.
00:19:23.000The president, when America is punched, he punches back harder.
00:19:27.000That's why there will be 104% tariffs going into effect on China tonight at midnight.
00:19:33.000But the president believes that Xi and China want to make a deal.
00:19:36.000They just don't know how to get that started.
00:19:38.000And the president also wanted me to tell all of you that if China reaches out to make a deal, he'll...
00:19:45.000She is a tiny package of dynamite, and if I was Donald Trump, I would send her in to negotiate because she'd still be larger than the Chinese ambassador.
00:20:44.000So I would actually see that as a virtue.
00:20:47.000Someone who would stand to benefit from cheap labor, like Donald Trump or like Kevin O'Leary, who we'll get to, is saying this is not sustainable.
00:20:54.000We have to do it this way now, but we don't want to.
00:23:21.000We are very much, at this point, we are reliant, for example, on China, not just for rare earth minerals, but really, we don't have the ability to process them.
00:23:29.000Okay. There's been a discovery recently.
00:23:32.000I can't remember if it's cobalt or lithium, salt and sea.
00:23:41.000Salton Sea, right outside, kind of between Palm Desert and Los Angeles.
00:23:46.000Used to have a yacht club there, and Barack Obama, during the stimulus package, pumped about $7 million into a yacht club that hadn't existed for decades.
00:24:02.000We could use it for whatever rare earth minerals, and put the processing facilities right there.
00:24:08.000Well, we can't because there's likely some kind of eco-regulations that don't...
00:24:11.000You don't think that we could make that cheaper to use resources from our own place that is being used for nothing else in the Salton Sea with plenty of land to set up the processing facilities?
00:24:22.000You don't think we can make that more efficient than importing it from China or taking minerals from another country, rare earth metals, sending them to China to be processed?
00:24:34.000No one is doing it because it's impossible.
00:24:35.000And again, the regulations are predicated on the idea of, well, no one will do it here because it's cheaper in China.
00:24:41.000Because you have made it cost prohibitive.
00:24:45.000Yeah. I want to go back to Kevin O'Leary's point because his point is the overall point and people are missing this.
00:24:51.000We're slowly heading towards an inevitable death in this country if we don't address this problem.
00:24:56.000You brought up the example of Russia in a Cold War.
00:24:59.000The reason it's different is because when we were going against Russia, our businesses weren't tied economically to Russia.
00:25:05.000We didn't have corporations going out there and doing the bidding of the Chinese party, essentially, to curry favor and to make sure they had favorable agreements.
00:25:18.000And that's where this game is going to be fought is information and trying to put out propaganda.
00:25:25.000I just use that as an example, yes, because China controls 90% of the rare earth processing and they just put some export controls in the United States.
00:25:31.000Wouldn't it be nice for us to be able to say, alright, fine, we're going to go to this piece of crap plot of land, the Salton Sea, or wherever it is that we could actually mine, we could hopefully have some kind of new discovery expedition to see what reserves we have and create our own processing,
00:26:04.000It sucks, but this is not the same as inflation that you saw as a result of government policy trying to purchase votes and orchestrating a lockdown.
00:26:13.000If we do, and we likely will see some kind of inflation or increased cost of goods and services.
00:29:01.000Why would our sanctions, why would our embargoes with Cuba affect them at all?
00:29:06.000They've had Russia, they've had China, and they still have taxicabs from the 1950s.
00:29:11.000Because China is a cheap goods economy.
00:29:14.000It cannot provide the bedrock for an industrial, for a technological, for an innovative revolution in Cuba.
00:29:21.000If the United States, well if Cuba of course got rid of their communist regime, if the United States opened up to Cuba, I mean within two years.
00:30:07.000That's something that people just fail to realize.
00:30:10.000If China becomes a superpower, they not only can't pull countries out of poverty, they will plunge every country they possibly can into poverty in the name of their great Maoist ideal.
00:30:45.000Maria, I think it's unfortunate that the Chinese actually don't want to come and negotiate because they are the worst offenders in the international trading system.
00:30:56.000They have the most imbalanced economy in the history of the modern world.
00:31:00.000And I can tell you that this escalation is a loser for them.
00:31:05.000I'm telling you, these countries are calling us up, kissing my ass.
00:31:16.000And then I'll see some rebel Republican, you know, some guy that wants to grandstand, say, I think the Congress should take over negotiations.
00:31:25.000Let me tell you, you don't negotiate like I do.
00:31:27.000By the way, I love that his voice is like the black comedian's white guy voice.
00:31:32.000Well, I don't think we should negotiate.
00:31:50.000We're not going to be there for any of these other countries if we're dependent on China, and they decide to pull the rug out from under us, which is their plan!
00:33:39.000Instead of worrying about defeating China, though, Stephen Colbert, well, I should say, instead of worrying about defeating China, Or writing jokes.
00:33:48.000Stephen Colbert is focused on Nintendos and iPhones or something.
00:33:52.000The tariffs are already hitting America right in the joystick because gamers were supposed to be able to order Nintendo's Switch 2 starting tomorrow, but now Nintendo has delayed Switch 2 pre-orders in the United States over the Trump tariffs.
00:34:18.000Jokes? That's what got me banned from the petting zoo.
00:34:22.000104% Chinese tariffs are going to make everything more expensive.
00:34:26.000iPhones, laptops, those wonderful knock-off toys you can find only at the gas station, like new-style Ninja Tortoise, Trayer Fomos, and my personal favorite, Special Man.
00:34:40.000That's funny, but you didn't write it.
00:36:37.000They're fresh roasted, and they don't actually give your money to people who hate you, which is more than we can say for a lot of other coffee companies out there that try and pander.
00:36:46.000By the way, I don't even normally like coffee, but it tasted pretty good.
00:37:58.000We're going to do this as an ongoing segment, but today we want to spend some time on Nature Edition.
00:38:04.000You know, if you want to understand how to best conserve, for example, a species or certain environments, we kind of know how to do that now.
00:38:13.000Because they have a vested interest, for example, in maintaining healthy deer, elk populations.
00:38:17.000They don't just want to go out and dump a bunch of red paint on your fur coat.
00:38:21.000And when you look at a lot of the environmental regulations, the intrusions that are designed to solve a problem, there are many examples where we've tried to play God and have made it worse.
00:38:32.000So as a jumping off point, not that this is a catastrophe, but it's potentially a minor screw-up, this week, Colossal Biosciences, they introduced what they claim were the first ever de-extinct species, these dire wolf pups,
00:39:56.000You have on one hand people saying yes, namely the company.
00:39:59.000They said that they used technologies that included harvesting ancient DNA, rewriting genetic code to create what they claim is a direwolf.
00:40:09.000Here it is explained by the Rosie O'Donnell after photo.
00:40:13.000We extracted DNA from two fossils that we knew from previous work had some amount of preserved ancient DNA.
00:40:21.000One was a 13,000 year old bone and the other was a 72,000 year old bone, an inner ear bone.
00:42:32.000The idea was, oh, let's make the roads more environmentally friendly.
00:42:37.000So rather than driving old cars into the ground, we
00:42:41.000people to trade them in to be destroyed so they could use that money to purchase new cars that have to be manufactured, again, largely through slave labor and energy intensive means.
00:43:29.000But again, do you understand the catastrophe that could take place if you bring back a woolly mammoth and just say, well, let's just let the cards fall where they may.
00:43:38.000Right now, a lot of Americans, right, they're having to ratchet down their belt, they're having to be careful, they're having to make some cutbacks.
00:43:44.000You want to bring back the woolly mammoth?
00:43:46.000At what point is it not seen as a necessity?
00:44:46.000My point here is we need the woolly mammoth about as much as we need Snake Island.
00:44:52.000When it's time to get away, to leave the hustle and bustle of everyday life, to abandon your worries at the door, there's a place that beckons off golden coasts of Sao Paulo with open arms in Snake Island.
00:45:10.000Sandy beaches and miles of coastline with not another human in sight.
00:45:14.000Snake Island, an actual place, averaging at least one deadly snake per square meter, crawling with Mother Earth's most evil creatures.
00:45:25.000Venomous snakes, flying snakes, snakes that hunt in packs.
00:45:30.000It is literally filled to the brim with deadly snakes.
00:45:34.000It's a place that leaves you grateful.
00:45:37.000For all the modern day basic bitch white guy problems you have at home, should you ever make it back alive?
00:45:45.000So pack your Depends and book your travel today and prepare to ask yourself, why the hell don't we just nuke Snake Island?
00:45:55.000Your trip begins at the gates of hell.
00:46:59.000So they always just assume, hey, we can be a net positive.
00:47:02.000The left always assumes, or these environmentalists, they assume that we are always accidentally a net negative to the environment by creating houses, driving cars.
00:47:12.000But when deliberately intervening in the course of nature, it's...
00:48:07.000And the craziest thing is in Michigan there was a vote on a wolf hunt because people in the Upper Peninsula were having problems with wolves and it was voted down by hipsters in Detroit.
00:48:15.000They should have no vote in the wolf hunt.
00:48:50.000He was a stunt guy who had a little side hustle where he would lease out male timber wolves to the movie industry, and he had this giant roster of Native Americans for extras, and that was his business.
00:50:03.000My wolf wants to know, is there a continental breakfast?
00:50:06.000No, he said the room was trashed and he had to beat down the challenge and he said when he got it off the ground, lifted it up and it submitted because it can't do that to you.
00:50:57.000But if he was ever doing stunt work, He had to put the wolf away, sequester the wolf away, because if, you know, it's play fighting, it doesn't know it.
00:51:08.000If this guy takes a hit, shows any weakness in a stunt routine, when he gets home, the challenge comes again.
00:51:48.000I was supposed to be in the scene, and I wouldn't.
00:51:50.000No? And the guy said, the trainer who was taking care of the monkey, yeah, he's sensing that you're a little, and I go, what does that mean?
00:51:57.000Well, he might get a little, I'm quoting, he might get a little nuts.
00:58:35.000Sure, but it also disrupted the ecosystem as far as more sharks, more seals, we'll get to that.
00:58:39.000But again, if you are on the side of human beings, you also understand, hey, far more, like it's a five-time increase here or a 15-time increase.
00:59:03.000And the people who all sound like they're all part of the Kennedy family.
00:59:06.000Yes. Like, I'm not concerned about the sharks.
00:59:08.000Bobby's out there and he can't swim in the bay.
00:59:11.000Here's actually, I believe, a clip of one of these.
00:59:15.000I'm curious if you're aware of any studies that have looked at the impact of seals and sharks beyond just the commercial fishing.
00:59:22.000I mean, I'm aware of neighbors that are moving away, people that are not here to vacation anymore because of the sharks.
00:59:29.000I don't know, I can't give you any quantitative figures, and you can add to this what you know of anymore, but there's lots of other areas that have thriving economies where there are also sharks and seals, like in parts of Florida, parts of California.
00:59:43.000I don't think those places have the trajectory of sharks that we have here.
00:59:49.000I think the trajectory and the future is where there's grave concern.
00:59:57.000But it doesn't matter because something, something, something, the environment, we need more seals, we need more sharks.
01:00:01.000Here's something else, an unintended consequence.
01:00:03.000Seals, right, we wanted to stop overfishing, but then we preserved the seals.
01:00:07.000So I don't know if you know this, seals eat fish.
01:00:09.000So in some cases, the seals have hurt some of the fish populations and certainly the lobster populations.
01:00:16.000But the biggest factor impacting us is the seal population here.
01:00:21.000We used to be able to go anywhere from about 8 miles to 25 miles out to go catch codfish.
01:00:27.000But over the past 10 years, the seal population has decimated the inshore fishery.
01:00:32.000So what used to be a thriving fishery close to home, we now have to travel anywhere from 50 to 125 miles to really be successful at catching codfish.