This week, the boys talk about Napoleon's penis being a collector's item, Japan's new female prime minister, and the new president of Japan's ruling party, the Liberal Democratic Party, and much, much more!
00:02:52.000Japan's conservative LDP just selected its new leader and likely new Japanese prime minister.
00:02:57.000And uh this one's slightly different from the past.
00:03:02.000Japan's ruling liberal democratic party has started a new week with a new leader.
00:03:08.000former economic security minister Takayichi Sanae has become LDP's first ever female president and is said to be the first woman to serve as Japanese prime minister私自身も work-life balanceという言葉を���てます��いて��いて��いて��いて��いて Mighty must say mighty mousey mouse.
00:03:33.000We're gonna make fun of the Japanese just a little bit in this, but it's not for any other reason than I respect the hell out of their work.
00:03:38.000I think they're very great ally right now.
00:05:10.000Supports the revision of Article 9, and much like her idol, Margaret Thatcher, has extremely regressive views of women's rights among other things.
00:05:19.000That's what they're so it's the fascist thing.
00:05:21.000That quote no, we could have looked high and low, and everything kind of sums up that sentiment from the left is that this is you know the Donald Trump of Japan.
00:05:35.000Anytime somebody comes in and says, hey, it's actually good to kind of prioritize our own citizens and to make sure that people aren't coming here illegally and like draining resources from us.
00:05:43.000It's not saying everybody who comes here from another country is a drain on society.
00:06:44.000No, but again, there's these forces and the progressives in every country, even though it's a smaller voice in a place like Japan or Korea that still want to push these kind of progressive policies, and one of those theoretically would be let's make the emperor a chick now.
00:07:55.000Do it does everybody see that in Japan, or are they kind of trying to play both sides?
00:07:59.000If her predecessor was a little bit more tame on kind of voicing this.
00:08:03.000What is tame look like saying that they're not an existential threat, but knowing they might be, or they just don't say it out loud as much.
00:08:08.000I mean, it's very clear by their policy, but even she took it a little bit further where she wants to institute this new kind of uh anti-espionage law because she came out flat.
00:08:16.000We had this clip, it was a little hard to understand.
00:08:18.000But she's essentially saying listen, every Chinese citizen the world over, including the ones that live in Japan, are subject to the national security law of China, which makes them a spy at the drop of a hat.
00:08:30.000Say that I'm a Chinese living in Japan and the Chinese government says we need you to get X information for us.
00:08:50.000The thing is, this is kind of reflected by a bunch of people in her party.
00:08:55.000It's just she's more aggressively vocal about it and has kind of a a more uh eclectic past, should you say that we're gonna do so people feel like they can jump on the the fascist sort of uh stigma a little bit more but it's just it's just not working.
00:09:08.000It's the same tired argument that we've heard and the Chinese are really pissed about her I understand.
00:09:14.000Well but in response to her election China state propagandist uh Li Xinjiing wrote on X as Japan has elected an extreme right wing person to be the next leader I'd like to remind everyone war criminals are not heroes.
00:09:30.000Okay okay okay Mao thank you but this statues of that guy do they have he's on every piece of currency in the country.
00:09:38.000Yeah well and his entombed body is still not his embalmed body is in is in the forbidden not the forbidden city it's in Tiananmen Square.
00:09:46.000No it's not join Napoleon's penis in New Jersey.
00:09:50.000Live a little uh but this quote was actually accompanied by this strange video.
00:09:54.000The West has tried really hard to make the whole world forget about the Asian theater of World War II.
00:10:01.000Almost as hard as how to try to make people forget about Jeffrey Abstance client list.
00:10:06.000And that's why you see stupid five star Google reviews on the Yasukuni shrine like this.
00:10:12.000They devoted themselves to their sweet homeland.
00:10:16.000That's like saying Jeffrey Dahmer devoted himself to being a foodie devote himself to spin devote himself to the logo economy.
00:10:26.000Maybe five you guys propped up El Chapo so please STF you on that one is all I have to say he also spelled it Al Chapo like it was weird Al Chapo.
00:10:38.000So yeah they're bitching because she has made visits to the Yasukuuni shrine which is where a lot of their war criminals are buried at oh so the Chinese get real pissed about this every couple months the Koreans too to be fair.
00:10:51.000That's yeah well a lot of them Japan did some stuff.
00:10:53.000It is it is rather controversial I suppose but um you know any any reason for the Chinese media to shit on Japan they're going to do it.
00:11:01.000And listen we've talked to you before about uh some of the funny commercials that we've seen in Japan um and how they treat foreigners but let's say that does that that Takeishi is what we would also call an immigration hardliner.
00:11:17.000May Toshimaitoshi what's that stuff I'm it's he got yo matume it's a good kanga sana akimasto okay so momot.
00:11:48.000You know what I I'll just in case you're listening on audio and you didn't have a chance to read that essentially go home.
00:11:56.000And if you say that you're coming here as a refugee and you have economic motives stores closed.
00:12:03.000Like that's basically she's saying everything that we've been saying about the United States and how we should be treating borders and how we should be treating immigration and you should be able to come and benefit this society and learn how to be one of us.
00:12:18.000There's this weird elitist kind of idea in places like Geneva you know or wherever you want to go where's the the every year the in Switzerland why can't I think of it Davos?
00:12:29.000The the kind of the Davos or Brussels elite that want to remake the entire world and their idea of like a Western democracy which isn't even really Western anymore which is just you know unfettered immigration and multiculturalism and now when the Japanese start seeing just a little bit of that like uh this isn't working at all.
00:12:46.000There's a lot of fear mongering that says there's like a million Indians coming that's not necessarily true.
00:12:50.000But the fact is you can go look at the look at the tourism in Japan or look at the Chinese people that show up to this prime minister or the likely prime minister are really pissed because she's from a place called Nara.
00:13:00.000That's where the deer are if you've seen the really peaceful deer that you can go and look at when the Chinese tourists will go up there and like F with the deer essentially hit the deer and kind of torture him a little bit and she got real pissed off about that.
00:13:11.000But that's just one among other things when these people try to come into that society and don't abide by it.
00:13:18.000So for her to say actually Japan uh we have low crime we have a good so a good society that functions very well good public transportation XYZ maybe we don't need to bring in a bunch of third worlders that have nothing in common with our traditional culture.
00:13:30.000In fact, probably would like to overthrow every component of that culture given the opportunity to do so.
00:13:36.000Because Japan does represent the West in a lot of ways.
00:13:38.000It's not necessarily a Western society, but it is it's much more aligned with kind of the Western tradition, at least, especially, you know, since well, since the Meiji Restoration, and especially since World War II.
00:14:21.000Uh in 2014, Takaichi endorsed a book titled The Hitler Election Strategy, a Bible for certain victory in modern elections.
00:14:29.000Okay, well, that's uh I get the difficulty there.
00:14:33.000Okay, so listen, I think um uh that you know, before we go too far down that road, it actually turns out she also co-authored a book on demolition in the late nineties called Boom Buddies.
00:14:47.000Yeah, so I don't uh she saw it coming.
00:14:51.000Really picking your uh spots there, aren't you?
00:15:14.000But listen, it's funny because you know when we talk about Hitler, you know, some there are people on the right, far extreme, and I don't not like a mainstream at all view.
00:15:24.000And that will look at Hitler and go, oh, see, he was just trying to preserve culture, or the Jews were controlling you know, banks, and that's really what the problem was, and that was a pro it was part of a problem in Europe and other places in the world where there was some consolidation that you had to work through and figure out.
00:15:40.000And there were social issues in certain places that Hitler was trying to address.
00:15:51.000And I I don't understand how people can lose sight of that.
00:15:54.000So a strategy that Hitler used to win elections by being a good orator and kind of stirring up crowds and getting them going, it's okay to look at that and go, hey, it would probably be a good idea if you're looking at kind of the blueprint, which is what it seems this book is doing.
00:16:35.000This is specifically how he'd sort of mobilized a population behind an idea rhetorically.
00:16:40.000It's not saying go out and kill your political opponents, although he says they should be exercised from political discussion and political participation.
00:18:07.000He would have been a bad person at any point in history because that's just what it is.
00:18:11.000But to c but to compare someone like Georgia Maloney or Takai or even Victor Orban to a Hitler is insane.
00:18:18.000Because if you really thought that those people were like Hitler, you would not feel so comfortable in making the comparisons to Hitler.
00:18:24.000You would be very, very dishonest rhetoric, and I think it needs to be kind of tamed on that side, and the right needs to be very careful not to go too far as an overreaction because those people on the left, they're pushing us towards that.
00:18:37.000They want that reaction, so they can legitimately make the claim.
00:19:00.000So let me let me just set this up for for a lot of you.
00:19:03.000You've probably you probably won't see a whole lot about it on CNN, but some of the mainstream media are covering this, it's just how they're covering that really is the uh the interesting part.
00:19:12.000But text messages from the Democrat uh from Virginia, who's I guess a candidate for the attorney general, um, were leaked three days ago.
00:21:16.000For now, I mean, you know how these things go.
00:21:18.000They they have no plans to end the campaign until the campaign has plans to end itself because you have no support anymore.
00:21:25.000But uh the dem governor of VA, uh sorry, the candidate for governor, Abigail Span Bargar, put out a statement condemning his remarks, but but but did not call.
00:21:36.000Is it resign or or what office does he hold right now?
00:21:43.000Because this is written in a way that makes it sound like he's resigning from some position that he currently holds, and I don't know what that is.
00:21:49.000But uh he's also three days in from this information coming out, lost no endorsements so far.
00:22:08.000And by the way, if if anybody on our side came out and said what they said, what this person said on text message and it kind of came out and like somebody pushed back and said, Hey ha ha ha.
00:22:58.000Can we say the same thing on the other side, or is it just deflecting so that your message doesn't get crowded out of the news cycle and so that you can push things that don't really actually solve anything?
00:23:08.000They push us to a place of acceptance through the rhetoric.
00:23:10.000It's if you cause and we've said it a million times, we'll say it once more.
00:23:13.000If you call someone a fascist and a Nazi, you do not deal with them at the ballot box.
00:23:17.000There's only if we could agree, everyone, if you were the French resistance, would it be would you be justified in killing the Nazi occupiers?
00:24:00.000You know, bring indictments upon people that don't deserve them and and put people in prison, or or worse.
00:24:05.000Try to, you know, try somebody under the death penalty.
00:24:08.000Yeah, that's pretty and research also clarified that the uh texts were between uh uh Jones and House delegate, a Republican, Carrie Coiner.
00:25:39.000So uh now that I've drug us back into that topic really quickly, uh, there's they're talking about on CNN right now, indirect Israel Hamas talks begin in Egypt.
00:25:49.000I don't know what indirect means, but okay, fine.
00:25:52.000I hope they're going to finally get to a peace solution.
00:25:54.000I think everybody right now would like there to be a peaceful resolution to this that does not include Hamas existing anymore and uh does not include people that are in Gaza being killed anymore.
00:26:05.000I everybody I think is on the same side on that one saying, hey, uh but actually I know they're not because they're actually saying from the river to the sea, which means you know, we're gonna take all this land and kill every single Israeli that happens to be in it.
00:26:17.000I know that's where we are, but I'm not I don't want to I don't want to argue that.
00:26:20.000I do want to come back to our friend Dave Smith.
00:26:23.000And listen, Dave, I'm I'm gonna call you out on something here because I think you did factually get something wrong, but I do think we would still have a very productive conversation.
00:26:30.000We have some disagreements, but I don't think you're a stupid person because you made a mistake or that you've been saying something incorrect.
00:26:36.000I do think it becomes pretty stupid when you don't acknowledge it and just understand what people are saying in a critique.
00:26:43.000But um Milk Bar TV put this uh supercut together and uh put it out on X from when Dave Smith and and somebody tell me again who he was uh uh debating with or having a conversation with last night.
00:27:21.000That they were going to go overthrow all of these governments.
00:27:23.000But why is it then that I got four star general Wesley Clark, Supreme Commander of uh Supreme Commander of the NATO forces?
00:27:32.000Why is it that he told me that he saw the plans we know that's the four-star general Wesley Clark himself said that he he was out of power at the time, but he went to the Pentagon and he said that he saw plans.
00:27:44.000How come I have four star general Wesley Clark telling me ten years prior that we had already made the plan?
00:27:51.000This has been confirmed by four-star General Wesley Clark.
00:27:53.000How many stars that we were going to topple seven countries in five years?
00:27:57.000Wesley Clark is the Dave Smith has gone on just about every single show out there, and for good reason, he he's very interested.
00:28:06.000I think that's a perfectly legitimate place to come from.
00:28:08.000I think there's some challenges with it that don't really match up with reality.
00:28:12.000But I have a heart for people who don't want to see suffering and dying in the world, even if it's uh you know completely necessary in some cases to protect civilization from the evils of maybe Hitler or something like that.
00:28:26.000He has said himself that he would do that.
00:28:28.000So I I don't think he's coming from this completely pacifist position.
00:28:32.000He just doesn't like getting dragged into wars needlessly, is what it seems.
00:28:35.000But the challenge is here, what he's saying is that in the United States that we had a plan to topple seven nations in five years, and that four-star general Wesley Clark even saw it to say Israel and neocons, because of Israel's influence, are controlling us and see that plan as just playing out right in front of your eyes.
00:28:56.000And so it lends credibility to the argument that he makes next, not in our clips, but in the rest of his arguments that he is making.
00:29:02.000And the problem is, as you'll see in just a second, it gets undercut.
00:29:20.000That the plan from the neocons in the government was that we were gonna overthrow all these governments in the region um in the next f uh five years.
00:29:28.000Let's talk about the this this Wesley Clark memo that he never saw.
00:29:40.000He says that he's got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense's office today, and he said, This is a memo that describes how we're gonna take out seven countries in five years.
00:29:55.000I said I said, Well, don't show it to me.
00:29:59.000Rumsfeld, who's sometimes abrasive approach, often alienated other cabinet members, produced twenty to sixty snowflakes, these memos, snowflakes a day.
00:30:15.000They saw plans to overthrow these governments.
00:30:19.000He's gonna obfuscate and say some stuff about well, I didn't mean overthrow, it doesn't always overthrow, but he said plans.
00:30:24.000And again, this is what we go back and get pissed off at Medi Hassan for because he said something that President Trump didn't say.
00:30:29.000Wesley Clark never said he saw even the memo in that democracy now clip, he said he was holding the memo and said this is a plan or this is a memo, sorry, not plan, a memo about how we're gonna overthrow seven countries in five years.
00:30:47.000He talked to the guy that Wesley Clark was uh supposedly talking to at the time, and he's like, I never showed him anything.
00:30:53.000So he's mischaracterizing every single step along the way when he's saying that four-star general Wesley Clark to add credence to his position.
00:31:02.000That's a problem, and he gets called out rightfully so by Mr. Was it Coleman?
00:31:16.000Without his thoughts in writing as the basis for developing policy, every once in a while, one of these ranting Rumsfeld notes to Condi would come.
00:32:07.000Starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
00:32:14.000Three of the countries on the on out of seven, almost half the countries have not done regime change, let alone within five years, let alone in the specific order prescribed by the memo.
00:32:23.000And and not to mention, we ha we did do regime change in countries not on the memo at all, like Liberia.
00:32:28.000So there's actually no variable from the memo that actually matches our foreign policy.
00:32:33.000and Coleman my argument here isn't that again I'm not saying that memo came to life and exactly what was written down on that is happening of course there were more memos of course there were more decisions that were added in afterwards I'm At that moment, Dave has to go, okay.
00:32:51.000I was very clear that six out of the seven have happened.
00:32:54.000I've said it multiple times on Joe Rogan's podcast and anywhere else that I've had a platform.
00:32:58.000Six of the seven have happened, and there's one left, and President Donald Trump is flirting with war with Iran.
00:33:03.000By the way, the war with Iran that he says the Israelis were dragging us into, and that Donald Trump should have been impeached over even before we did anything about Iran.
00:33:24.000But I think you're wrong on some stuff.
00:33:25.000But you called for President Trump's impeachment before we did anything relating to Iran.
00:33:29.000This wasn't when we were in the process of bombing and we were making sure that no collateral damage was going to happen in response, retaliation for the bombing.
00:33:38.000You called for it, if you remember, before any of that even happened, before you even knew planes were being ready to go over and make strikes.
00:33:46.000I am upset or frustrated or I shouldn't have.
00:33:49.000I can't remember your exact words, so I'm not going to put them in your mouth.
00:33:51.000You said that you should not have supported Donald Trump for president and that you're disappointed or ashamed or something along those lines before any of that ever happened.
00:34:05.000I did make this out to be more than it actually is.
00:34:08.000It would have been just fine to say there's this clean break memo that's been floating around on what Israel wants people to do in the Middle East, really themselves.
00:34:16.000But obviously, if they can get the United States to help in certain ways, that'd be fine.
00:34:20.000One of those was actually to prop up certain places to make sure that they were a buffer.
00:34:23.000It makes perfect sense, by the way, if you're Israel to want to make sure that your enemies are a little weaker.
00:34:28.000And then saying that the United States had a memo created about that plan.
00:34:33.000It would have been strong enough to say that.
00:34:35.000But you used it as evidence of something that didn't actually exist.
00:34:49.000There might be lots of memos that go out every day, but the a memo that says we're going to fight, we're going to topple seven countries in the next five years, a pretty big memo.
00:34:56.000That's not just one of the regular memos.
00:34:58.000Do you have any evidence it was a big memo?
00:35:00.000Your only evidence is the guy who never read it.
00:35:03.000This is you realize how ridiculous this is.
00:35:05.000You couldn't, if you were historian writing a book, you you'd have to cut this out of the book because you're relying on his hearsay of someone that never even read the document, much less you or I have never read the document, and then we know that they were writing 60 documents a day that Condoleezza Rice was putting in the trash.
00:35:20.000It's it's a ridiculously low bar of evidence you'd have to have to consider this memo and everything implied by it important.
00:35:27.000I mean, I I don't know how else to say this, dude.
00:36:28.000The timing didn't work out before, so full disclosure, Dave did reach back out to us.
00:36:32.000It was when we were going on uh I believe it was break.
00:36:35.000He was going on vacation like the next day or something like that.
00:36:38.000But we've reached back out since and heard nothing.
00:36:40.000I yeah, I hate to do given people's schedules, and I know how Stephen gets I know being a comedian you're traveling, so this is not to say that he's ducked us.
00:36:51.000I would love to make it happen because I think he does have some very interesting information that the audience would be well served to understand and put in context.
00:37:00.000But in this sp specific case, when you get called out like this, you could see where he has that moment of where he's like, I have to defend this position, even though I can't factually defend this position.
00:37:10.000Can I add just one thing when you're done for this?
00:37:12.000Um so I agree with everything you said, and you know how much fault I take with Dave making unsubstantiated claims, basically just to shit on Israel.
00:37:21.000That being said, if we notice where this a lot of the other side that I happen to disagree with is going to have sort of a point here when they say, but yeah, that was done on the free press podcast by the free press, which is owned by Barry Weiss, which is very, very pro-Israel.
00:37:40.000Well, I think there is two things that can be true at once that Israel's not responsible for everything that the United States does, they are the parent in the relationship.
00:37:50.000Uh, but and Israel does act like a spoiled little child sometimes.
00:37:54.000And I think to their besides credit, the one reason that it's so easy to blame Israel is because yes, as Christians, there's I think there's a reason to support it, mostly for the preservation of Christian historical sites.
00:38:06.000That I think if an Islamic country took over today, like we've seen uh ISIS do even in their own in Iraq and stuff, they would desecrate all the holy sites, those would be gone.
00:38:14.000Yeah, those are worth protecting, and if nothing else, I think that's why we should have a good relationship and an uh an alliance with Israel.
00:38:21.000However, there's a lot of inertia and a lot of Israeli money influencing our politicians.
00:38:27.000We've talked about API, which is a big reason why there are still too many resources in that region.
00:38:32.000When 10 years ago we made the pledge to pivot to Asia, and we still haven't done it, and a lot of the reason is because the Israelis are using their influence to keep our resources there when it's really not benefiting our country to do so.
00:38:59.000And that is doing a disservice to the American and to real American interests.
00:39:03.000Well, and that's where you know people like Dave Smith do have a point.
00:39:06.000When you have a guy like Netanyahu coming out and saying this could be the end of Israel, correct.
00:39:10.000That is meant to get people to give money and support to Israel to support that state remaining, even though that's not always true.
00:39:16.000It's like the the boy that cried Wolf.
00:39:18.000I get that they have enemies, and I get that they have there's some interesting things that happen.
00:39:23.000And if I were if I were somebody who lived in that country since its inception has been under attack, I get that I would have a little bit different worldview, and the attacks preceded that.
00:39:41.000That's why I was trying to have a conversation or and did with Andrew Wilson.
00:39:44.000I'll talk about probably a little bit of this with Jay Dyer when I do uh something with him, and then also Joel C. Rosenberg, heartfelt condolences, man.
00:39:51.000I know that his I believe his mom just passed away uh very recently, but he's gonna come on the show and I'm gonna talk to him.
00:39:56.000Fantastic author, but knows a lot about this as well from a different perspective, right?
00:40:00.000I'm trying to get all these different kind of perspectives that I think matter.
00:40:03.000He's lived in Israel for a while, at least in both places.
00:40:07.000Um, but I think the the main point and the frustration that I have with this is not that I just disagreed with Dave.
00:40:14.000It's that when a perfectly rational, reasonable counterpoint gets brought up, Dave ran to the I'm just a guy talking on the internet.
00:40:23.000You just have to acknowledge, okay, fine, you know what, that's correct, and maybe I've made too big of a deal about this, and maybe I've misspoken about what actually happened.
00:40:55.000Do you believe Barry Weiss will actually bring balanced fact-based news back to CBS now that she is editor-in-chief of CBS News as they state she will.
00:41:14.000So here's here's where I will there is a there is a part of me right now that understands the influence in media and the game that is being played.
00:41:28.000And just like the the conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk and his death assassination were linked to Israel, saying, Oh, well, you're gonna do this.
00:41:38.000I'm not discussing Ian Carroll's harebrain schemes or Candace Owens or anything like that.
00:41:43.000What I'm really wanting to focus in on is the fact that it was apparent to everybody that on college campuses Israel's losing the argument.
00:41:52.000And it's you can think it's because they're wrong.
00:41:56.000I think in a lot of ways it's because messaging is really difficult in war.
00:42:01.000And whoever is losing in a war is probably going to come off as the more sympathetic party, even though there are barbaric things that those guys have done.
00:42:08.000They could have ended this war a long time ago.
00:42:09.000I think Douglas Murray in a monk debate with Medihassan and some other people made a very, very good point.
00:42:15.000He's like, I don't understand uh I don't think that I've ever read in the rules of war that you get to start a war and then complain about losing.
00:42:24.000And I think you can have some really strong feelings on both sides about this, but Israel is having a lot of influence in ways on our politicians that we've talked about with APAC and other things and through the evangelical church, but one way they're really losing is getting into the younger audiences and talking about what's going on.
00:42:42.000And I think that's something that they're trying to fight against.
00:42:45.000And so then you could look at kind of people getting put into positions of power and news organizations being purchased and go, it's all part of this big grand plan.
00:42:54.000And there is some credibility to a claim like that given the environment.
00:42:57.000And so I think that's why I'm like, it could be worse because they may not trust her at all because of that, that overriding factor in their minds, thinking, well, this is just another play.
00:44:01.000And I I think I think there's been a ton of missteps in this war, and I think there's been some stuff that needs to be looked into for sure.
00:44:35.000With states like Illinois and California openly disobeying federal laws and orders, when does it get to a point where the federal government can charge Johnson and Pritzker?
00:44:43.000I don't know uh where that line would be drawn.
00:44:46.000I mean, between the governor doing things and mayors.
00:44:49.000Like I I think they should go in right now to Chicago and be like, this is ours to a degree.
00:45:55.000And if they continue to let these policies run rampant, pretty soon the nice parts stop existing, like they have in New York to a large degree, like they have in Los Angeles to a large degree.
00:46:05.000Maybe Josh has a stronger opinion on you know what the military should do or the guard, but that's where I'm at.
00:46:11.000I mean, I don't have any stronger opinion.
00:46:14.000Um I think it's totally reasonable for guard uh for guard soldiers to be protecting federal buildings because of the lack of response from local police.
00:46:37.000He acts like he's one of these common men, like I eat hot dogs just like you.
00:46:42.000Oh, okay, you billionaire fucking how many people have you displaced to put up buildings?
00:46:48.000You know, like uh no, I think it's totally reasonable to have these people out there.
00:46:52.000I don't think that they should be going through neighborhoods, the guard going through, you know, apartment buildings or or whatever it is that ICE officers are doing to take people, and and sure, maybe I don't agree with everything ICE is doing.
00:47:41.000That's what I when I when I see people say fuck ice at the Oscars, when I see people say ice-free zones, to me, like I when I think of ice, I think of the the people that are going and and getting these child traffickers, the bus, the the guys that are rescuing literally hundreds.
00:47:56.000Yeah, if not thousands of children across this country that have been trafficked here.
00:48:01.000I I and and all the other all the other people that are victims of these immigrants these illegal immigrants' crimes, and I know it's not everyone, I get that.
00:48:08.000And and that's where the compromise comes in is that yeah, sometimes people who who aren't doing anything wrong but are are just here illegally, they're they're they're gonna be good people put up.
00:48:18.000They do provide for their community, they have a job, they pay taxes, but they're here illegally.
00:48:22.000I'm sorry if you get caught up in the same building as these other people who have connections to the cartel, you're gone.
00:48:28.000Sorry, that sucks, but it's a compromise that you have to be willing to make.
00:48:32.000Because the other way you compromise is you compromise American citizens, you compromise your own lives, you compromise your children's lives and your children's futures and so many other things that it it it just to me, I I logically I go to that side of it.
00:48:46.000I go, I choose the one where we get rid of the illegals.
00:48:50.000My my question, and I'll go to you, Lynn, is you want us to be compassionate.
00:49:15.000Because if you're compassionate to one, it can mean no compassion towards the other at all.
00:49:23.000Because if I'm compassionate and just say, well, let everybody in, well, I guess every one of the kids that gets trafficked and raped by these cartels and the people associated with them get no compassion.
00:49:33.000And all the people that get killed by the cartels get no compassion as well.
00:49:37.000And all the people whose lives are destroyed in the United States because the cartels come in and set up shop and are selling drugs and making sure that nobody snitches on them, all the violence associated, they get no compassion as well.
00:49:50.000And then if I allow this to go on long enough, that community gets no compassion because it's taken over completely by the cartels and by people who shouldn't be here legally.
00:49:59.000Much less if somebody comes here and the only law that they broke was getting into the country illegally.
00:50:04.000Well, I guess I don't have compassion on potentially the person's job who they are taking.
00:50:08.000And don't tell me that that job wouldn't be filled by somebody because we've had people filling those jobs for centuries.
00:50:16.000And the housing that is now more expensive in the area and the resources that are more stretched by the local governments, there's no compassion for everybody else.
00:50:28.000I would like to be compassionate to the citizens of the United States, the people that the elected officials are supposed to be compassionate towards.
00:50:35.000And then what I would like to do is make this so successful and so prosperous that we can have overflow of charity and compassion to those who are in need in other places, and we can empower them to make their places like our place.
00:50:53.000That's what we need to do ultimately truly compassionate.
00:50:56.000If we're gonna do something around the world, if we're gonna spend money around the world, if that's if that's a necessity, then that's what we should be doing.
00:51:04.000Because why are all these people leaving?
00:52:07.000And a lot of people kind of, I think inherently understood that, but put it out of sight out of mind because they voted for Donald Trump, and that was a large majority, or not a large majority, but even a majority of Latinos in some aspects, knowing full well what he was going to do.
00:52:23.000And it is uncomfortable and it is not pretty.
00:52:25.000And when you become sympathetic and your heart hurts for these people, but at the end of the day, you should have been saying something when they were allowed to be trafficked over the border.
00:52:35.000Fixing the problem is always harder than not letting the problem happen in the first place.
00:52:39.000But for the first time, I think the American people do have the stomach to make it happen because they've seen just how bad things can get.
00:54:20.000Uh coming a year after the presidential so real money behind that Roy G and uh they're not a whole I could be wrong, but we haven't got a CNN's calling it vile text this morning.
00:54:31.000But we have nothing to do with the that is good.
00:54:33.000That is something and that's good that they are that they're doing that.
00:54:37.000I think they're kind of forced to talk about it.
00:54:39.000I think it's I think it's sad that at some point uh at this point we have to be giving CNN credit for doing what they're supposed to do all the time.
00:54:52.000I mean, first of all, bottom line, those messages were horrid.
00:54:55.000And I think that it's really the pressure is going to build likely on Abigail Scam Spamberger.
00:55:03.000She is doing very well in polling compared to her down ballot candidates, including the AG c A G nominee and the lieutenant governor nominee.
00:55:11.000So you're going to hear Republicans'senior pressure more and more on calling Jones to drop out, which, as you know, she has not done.
00:55:18.000Yeah, because Winston Merle, who is a Democrat, the Republican candidate for governor, has been struggling in this race.
00:55:23.000I feel like he's got a frog in his throat.
00:55:24.000He could be lifted up by the boss race.
00:55:27.000And what do you think about the AG being a total dickbag?
00:55:30.000They could help down the ticket, up the ticket.
00:56:02.000Yeah, he probably ought to drop out, but he can't because uh he's still on the ballot.
00:56:06.000If he wins still with this kind of stuff out there, it's like, well, we just you know, we I think at this point we Yosemite Sam Virginia and just push it out into the sea and keep whatever we need to from it.