Louder with Crowder - 🔴 Deport Them All: Trump Takes Fight to Leftist Chicago & Portland Over Attacks on ICE 2025-10-06 18:04

00:00:00.000 Okay, from 77, $3,000 is quite a bit.

00:00:03.000 The New York Post does have some bangers for sure.

00:00:07.000 Yeah, that's a real thing, dude.

00:00:09.000 I just can't trust you.

00:00:10.000 New Jersey is a great place for it.

00:00:12.000 I just can't trust you.

00:00:14.000 Yeah.

00:00:14.000 It's a Benminster.

00:00:16.000 All right, fine. 1.00

00:00:17.000 Okay, listen, Napoleon's penis is floating around. 1.00

00:00:20.000 I got it. 1.00

00:00:20.000 That's my favorite sandwich at Jersey Mike's, by the way. 1.00

00:00:22.000 Napoleon's penis? 1.00

00:00:23.000 Yeah, it's the NP. 1.00

00:00:27.000 Jeez. 1.00

00:00:28.000 We are as a species and as a race, we are sometimes really frickin' stupid. 1.00

00:00:35.000 Like too. 1.00

00:00:36.000 I'm like at some point, I'm like, maybe we should maybe aliens should come now. 1.00

00:00:39.000 Would you rather not have his penis? 1.00

00:00:40.000 Like I don't understand why the stupid thing is this I feel. 1.00

00:00:43.000 I feel like we have his penis in someone's possession. 1.00

00:00:45.000 The stupid thing was that he wasn't executed the first time they exiled him. 1.00

00:00:49.000 They exiled him and maybe history. 1.00

00:00:52.000 I will come back and said I will do another war. 0.99

00:00:54.000 And then he did.

00:00:55.000 Exactly.

00:00:57.000 And then the British had to help in some way.

00:00:59.000 He was like housed on some British island.

00:01:01.000 Listen, listen.

00:01:02.000 Listen.

00:01:03.000 I I don't care about any of that.

00:01:05.000 I don't care about any of that. 0.98

00:01:06.000 The fact that we're talking about this man's penis being a collector's item later on, like it just it's pretty cool. 0.99

00:01:14.000 Okay. 0.99

00:01:14.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:01:15.000 It's pretty cool, dude.

00:01:16.000 You know who else was cool?

00:01:18.000 Hey, it's an investment.

00:01:19.000 Japan, not the other thing. 1.00

00:01:20.000 Uh so I can't even I can't get my wife to pay for my penis. 1.00

00:01:24.000 Good lord. 1.00

00:01:25.000 Well, don't worry. 1.00

00:01:26.000 It will seventy seven thousand for this guy's tiny little shriveled up penis. 0.99

00:01:29.000 If I have anything to do with it, it is going to end up in Columbus, Ohio, just as retribution for Napoleon's lie story that you told me. 0.99

00:01:36.000 I'm sticking to it.

00:01:37.000 You can't prove otherwise.

00:01:39.000 There is a worldwide nationalist.

00:01:43.000 Not don't go too far with that.

00:01:45.000 But nationalist pushback against globalism in places like Italy, Poland, France, Hungary, Hungria, Hungary, Elsa.

00:01:54.000 You guys, you guys know us.

00:01:56.000 We're imperfect beings.

00:01:57.000 You're hungrier than me.

00:01:59.000 I know chat right now is loving this.

00:02:01.000 Every single time.

00:02:02.000 You guys love when pain is brought to individuals.

00:02:04.000 You should really do some soul searching.

00:02:06.000 Not individuals.

00:02:07.000 I'm not sure if chats love any of this.

00:02:12.000 El Salvador.

00:02:12.000 Argentina.

00:02:14.000 Reform and reclaim in the United Kingdom.

00:02:16.000 Whatever.

00:02:16.000 *BEEP*

00:02:18.000 And claim had to outright reform.

00:02:21.000 Because that's how that's how pissed they are.

00:02:23.000 They had the yes, but they weren't like anti-immigration enough.

00:02:27.000 Correct.

00:02:28.000 Shout out Rupert Lowe.

00:02:29.000 Yeah.

00:02:29.000 See you on the show, hopefully.

00:02:30.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:02:31.000 Um so listen, globalism is a failure.

00:02:35.000 This whole borderless kind of society.

00:02:37.000 It's not gonna work.

00:02:38.000 It didn't work in Europe, and it's just been this slow march towards extinction for them.

00:02:43.000 But it's not stopping the elite from trying to push it even more.

00:02:46.000 I wonder why.

00:02:47.000 Even when it is least wanted in places.

00:02:50.000 Now, that brings us to Japan.

00:02:52.000 Japan's conservative LDP just selected its new leader and likely new Japanese prime minister.

00:02:57.000 And uh this one's slightly different from the past.

00:03:02.000 Japan's ruling liberal democratic party has started a new week with a new leader.

00:03:08.000 former economic security minister Takayichi Sanae has become LDP's first ever female president and is said to be the first woman to serve as Japanese prime minister私自身も work-life balanceという言葉を��てます��いて��いて��いて��いて��いて Mighty must say mighty mousey mouse.

00:03:31.000 Like a mighty mouse.

00:03:33.000 We're gonna make fun of the Japanese just a little bit in this, but it's not for any other reason than I respect the hell out of their work.

00:03:38.000 I think they're very great ally right now.

00:03:40.000 Love you guys in Asia.

00:03:42.000 And Lane makes this point all the time. 0.98

00:03:44.000 If you ever call Israel greatest ally, you should shut the hell up. 0.98

00:03:46.000 You should you don't know what you're talking about. 0.95

00:03:48.000 This lady has the work ethic of a Toyota. 1.00

00:03:50.000 Yeah.

00:03:50.000 Nice.

00:03:51.000 Yeah.

00:03:52.000 Million miles on a high lunch.

00:03:54.000 I don't know.

00:03:54.000 Is that part of it?

00:03:55.000 Okay, anyway.

00:03:56.000 Trump posted about this on True Social just this morning.

00:03:59.000 Japan has just elected its first female prime minister, a highly respected person of great wisdom and strength.

00:04:05.000 It's just not the same without Steven reading it.

00:04:07.000 I don't know.

00:04:07.000 It just kind of falls flat.

00:04:08.000 This is tremendous.

00:04:10.000 Japan has just selected its first female prime minister.

00:04:17.000 Wow.

00:04:17.000 You sound like Louie Anderson.

00:04:19.000 A highly respected person of great wisdom and strength.

00:04:23.000 This is tremendous news for the incredible people of Japan.

00:04:29.000 Congratulations to President Donald Trump.

00:04:32.000 No, congratulations to all.

00:04:35.000 I couldn't see President Screwdriver.

00:04:37.000 Donald J. Trump.

00:04:40.000 It's pretty good, right?

00:04:41.000 That was great.

00:04:42.000 We should totally have you do that as a stand-in. 0.85

00:04:44.000 So that yeah, this next one is not actually coming from Japan, it's coming from Blue Sky.

00:04:48.000 So just I'm trying not to set you up for us.

00:04:50.000 So the leftists that are on blue sky, like this gal from she actually lives in Japan and she's on blue sky.

00:04:56.000 No.

00:04:56.000 No, but she says she does.

00:04:58.000 This is bad Lol.

00:05:00.000 Takachi is a member of the Nippon Kaigi.

00:05:03.000 Yeah.

00:05:04.000 Did I get it?

00:05:04.000 Wow.

00:05:05.000 I need I need faster confirmations.

00:05:07.000 I'm out here on the limb.

00:05:08.000 If it was wrong, I would have said it was wrong.

00:05:09.000 Okay, you're fine.

00:05:10.000 Supports the revision of Article 9, and much like her idol, Margaret Thatcher, has extremely regressive views of women's rights among other things. 0.76

00:05:18.000 Fascist.

00:05:19.000 That's what they're so it's the fascist thing.

00:05:21.000 That quote no, we could have looked high and low, and everything kind of sums up that sentiment from the left is that this is you know the Donald Trump of Japan. 0.89

00:05:29.000 This is a this is a fascist. 0.71

00:05:30.000 This is Margaret Thatcher, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:05:32.000 Like the countries we listed earlier.

00:05:34.000 This seems to be the refrain.

00:05:35.000 Anytime somebody comes in and says, hey, it's actually good to kind of prioritize our own citizens and to make sure that people aren't coming here illegally and like draining resources from us.

00:05:43.000 It's not saying everybody who comes here from another country is a drain on society.

00:05:46.000 That's a different conversation.

00:05:47.000 Right?

00:05:48.000 And it certainly isn't saying you didn't.

00:05:50.000 Right?

00:05:51.000 So just just don't go to the Hitler comparisons so quickly.

00:05:54.000 But here are the po oh boy. 0.96

00:05:56.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:05:57.000 I forgot we had that.

00:05:58.000 I forgot we had Japanese Hitler.

00:06:00.000 Bring it back up.

00:06:01.000 That's Chinese Hitler, but Chinese. 1.00

00:06:03.000 That's true.

00:06:04.000 That is Chinese. 0.68

00:06:04.000 Well, we're gonna We're gonna like fit that in every time that we can. 0.68

00:06:10.000 So here are the policies of apparently Hitler.

00:06:13.000 Antifeminist.

00:06:14.000 They require married not they, which would require married couples to share last name.

00:06:19.000 Is that is that is that correct?

00:06:20.000 It's current law, but there's been push from the feminists to get rid of that. 1.00

00:06:27.000 No, I even this was gonna be a serious segment.

00:06:31.000 It was gonna be now Lane's like, I'm not gonna put this out to anybody.

00:06:34.000 I saw this, but I thought this was a joke segment.

00:06:36.000 Yeah.

00:06:36.000 Not not a joke segment.

00:06:38.000 Male only imperial succession. 0.83

00:06:40.000 How is that?

00:06:40.000 That's not like that like drastic.

00:06:44.000 No, but again, there's these forces and the progressives in every country, even though it's a smaller voice in a place like Japan or Korea that still want to push these kind of progressive policies, and one of those theoretically would be let's make the emperor a chick now. 0.98

00:06:55.000 Make it lame and gay. 1.00

00:06:58.000 What does that mean? 0.99

00:06:59.000 Male only imperial succession. 0.83

00:07:00.000 What does that explain?

00:07:01.000 The emperor.

00:07:01.000 The emperor can only be a male.

00:07:03.000 So they can't pass it off to his daughter or so on and so forth.

00:07:05.000 Oh, they still have an emperor?

00:07:06.000 Yes.

00:07:07.000 They do.

00:07:07.000 We let them do that.

00:07:08.000 That was literally part of them surrendering.

00:07:10.000 That was like the condition of surrender.

00:07:12.000 That's crazy.

00:07:12.000 Pretty much we have to keep the emperor.

00:07:13.000 I get it.

00:07:14.000 But the prime minister makes all the rules.

00:07:16.000 Yes.

00:07:16.000 Yeah.

00:07:16.000 Or kind of.

00:07:17.000 It's it's the same thing that you have going.

00:07:18.000 Well, not makes the rules, but it's like it's not apples apples, but it is like the queen.

00:07:22.000 So much more revered godlike.

00:07:23.000 I guess the king now.

00:07:24.000 Sorry.

00:07:24.000 Yeah.

00:07:25.000 Well, God save the king, I guess.

00:07:26.000 I don't know.

00:07:27.000 Maybe maybe the king should save England.

00:07:29.000 Who knows?

00:07:29.000 You know, real fascists would have would have made a policy that uh uh made her the emperor.

00:07:34.000 That would be true.

00:07:36.000 You really are gonna fascist the right way.

00:07:38.000 If it was yeah.

00:07:39.000 But she is kind of a China hawk, which I think is very much necessary. 1.00

00:07:44.000 Takashi hawk's much smaller than American Hawk.

00:07:46.000 Takei.

00:07:47.000 Take isi, sorry.

00:07:48.000 Yeah.

00:07:48.000 Uh has been extremely outspoken on the threat China poses, rightfully so.

00:07:53.000 Yeah.

00:07:53.000 I think that's very reasonable.

00:07:55.000 Do it does everybody see that in Japan, or are they kind of trying to play both sides?

00:07:59.000 If her predecessor was a little bit more tame on kind of voicing this.

00:08:03.000 What is tame look like saying that they're not an existential threat, but knowing they might be, or they just don't say it out loud as much.

00:08:08.000 Okay.

00:08:08.000 I mean, it's very clear by their policy, but even she took it a little bit further where she wants to institute this new kind of uh anti-espionage law because she came out flat.

00:08:16.000 We had this clip, it was a little hard to understand.

00:08:18.000 Yeah.

00:08:18.000 But she's essentially saying listen, every Chinese citizen the world over, including the ones that live in Japan, are subject to the national security law of China, which makes them a spy at the drop of a hat.

00:08:30.000 Say that I'm a Chinese living in Japan and the Chinese government says we need you to get X information for us.

00:08:35.000 They're required to do it by law.

00:08:37.000 So she doesn't want she wants to get rid of that, or she wants to make sure there's a countermeasure against that. 0.98

00:08:41.000 She wants to make it much harder to be able to do that. 0.98

00:08:43.000 For Chinese citizens that are in Japan.

00:08:45.000 Correct.

00:08:45.000 And much harder for them to buy property, much like you've seen DeSantis or Abbott.

00:08:49.000 Yeah.

00:08:49.000 So she's along those same lines.

00:08:50.000 The thing is, this is kind of reflected by a bunch of people in her party.

00:08:55.000 It's just she's more aggressively vocal about it and has kind of a a more uh eclectic past, should you say that we're gonna do so people feel like they can jump on the the fascist sort of uh stigma a little bit more but it's just it's just not working.

00:09:08.000 It's the same tired argument that we've heard and the Chinese are really pissed about her I understand. 1.00

00:09:13.000 Which makes me like her more.

00:09:14.000 Well but in response to her election China state propagandist uh Li Xinjiing wrote on X as Japan has elected an extreme right wing person to be the next leader I'd like to remind everyone war criminals are not heroes.

00:09:30.000 Okay okay okay Mao thank you but this statues of that guy do they have he's on every piece of currency in the country.

00:09:38.000 Yeah well and his entombed body is still not his embalmed body is in is in the forbidden not the forbidden city it's in Tiananmen Square.

00:09:46.000 Not Ohio? 0.98

00:09:46.000 No it's not join Napoleon's penis in New Jersey. 0.98

00:09:50.000 Live a little uh but this quote was actually accompanied by this strange video. 0.93

00:09:54.000 The West has tried really hard to make the whole world forget about the Asian theater of World War II.

00:10:01.000 Almost as hard as how to try to make people forget about Jeffrey Abstance client list. 0.96

00:10:06.000 And that's why you see stupid five star Google reviews on the Yasukuni shrine like this. 0.98

00:10:12.000 They devoted themselves to their sweet homeland. 0.99

00:10:16.000 That's like saying Jeffrey Dahmer devoted himself to being a foodie devote himself to spin devote himself to the logo economy.

00:10:26.000 Maybe five you guys propped up El Chapo so please STF you on that one is all I have to say he also spelled it Al Chapo like it was weird Al Chapo.

00:10:38.000 So yeah they're bitching because she has made visits to the Yasukuuni shrine which is where a lot of their war criminals are buried at oh so the Chinese get real pissed about this every couple months the Koreans too to be fair. 0.69

00:10:51.000 That's yeah well a lot of them Japan did some stuff. 0.97

00:10:53.000 It is it is rather controversial I suppose but um you know any any reason for the Chinese media to shit on Japan they're going to do it. 0.57

00:11:01.000 Yeah.

00:11:01.000 And listen we've talked to you before about uh some of the funny commercials that we've seen in Japan um and how they treat foreigners but let's say that does that that Takeishi is what we would also call an immigration hardliner.

00:11:17.000 May Toshimaitoshi what's that stuff I'm it's he got yo matume it's a good kanga sana akimasto okay so momot.

00:11:48.000 You know what I I'll just in case you're listening on audio and you didn't have a chance to read that essentially go home.

00:11:54.000 Yeah.

00:11:55.000 And don't come here.

00:11:56.000 And if you say that you're coming here as a refugee and you have economic motives stores closed.

00:12:03.000 Like that's basically she's saying everything that we've been saying about the United States and how we should be treating borders and how we should be treating immigration and you should be able to come and benefit this society and learn how to be one of us.

00:12:17.000 That is the thing.

00:12:18.000 There's this weird elitist kind of idea in places like Geneva you know or wherever you want to go where's the the every year the in Switzerland why can't I think of it Davos?

00:12:28.000 Davos, right?

00:12:29.000 The the kind of the Davos or Brussels elite that want to remake the entire world and their idea of like a Western democracy which isn't even really Western anymore which is just you know unfettered immigration and multiculturalism and now when the Japanese start seeing just a little bit of that like uh this isn't working at all.

00:12:46.000 There's a lot of fear mongering that says there's like a million Indians coming that's not necessarily true.

00:12:50.000 But the fact is you can go look at the look at the tourism in Japan or look at the Chinese people that show up to this prime minister or the likely prime minister are really pissed because she's from a place called Nara.

00:13:00.000 That's where the deer are if you've seen the really peaceful deer that you can go and look at when the Chinese tourists will go up there and like F with the deer essentially hit the deer and kind of torture him a little bit and she got real pissed off about that. 0.63

00:13:11.000 But that's just one among other things when these people try to come into that society and don't abide by it.

00:13:16.000 No they don't abide by the rules.

00:13:18.000 So for her to say actually Japan uh we have low crime we have a good so a good society that functions very well good public transportation XYZ maybe we don't need to bring in a bunch of third worlders that have nothing in common with our traditional culture. 1.00

00:13:30.000 In fact, probably would like to overthrow every component of that culture given the opportunity to do so.

00:13:36.000 Because Japan does represent the West in a lot of ways.

00:13:38.000 It's not necessarily a Western society, but it is it's much more aligned with kind of the Western tradition, at least, especially, you know, since well, since the Meiji Restoration, and especially since World War II.

00:13:49.000 Yeah.

00:13:49.000 Well, I and I hope we lean into that because I I agree with you.

00:13:53.000 That's a very, very, very strong ally.

00:13:55.000 Probably the number one ally in the world.

00:13:57.000 You could argue that that Britain, fine, I understand that too.

00:14:00.000 But like I'm not sure.

00:14:03.000 No, I know, exactly.

00:14:04.000 So we we want to make sure that our allies don't, you know, fall.

00:14:06.000 But here's here's where some of the controversy does come in.

00:14:09.000 So this is the Hitler part. 0.93

00:14:10.000 And again, Hitler bad every time, right? 0.94

00:14:13.000 Hitler bad. 0.98

00:14:14.000 Um every once in a while there's something where you can pull like a kernel of truth and go like, ah, okay, well, here we go. 0.75

00:14:20.000 Yeah, Hitler bad. 0.71

00:14:21.000 Uh in 2014, Takaichi endorsed a book titled The Hitler Election Strategy, a Bible for certain victory in modern elections.

00:14:29.000 Okay, well, that's uh I get the difficulty there.

00:14:33.000 Okay, so listen, I think um uh that you know, before we go too far down that road, it actually turns out she also co-authored a book on demolition in the late nineties called Boom Buddies.

00:14:47.000 Yeah, so I don't uh she saw it coming.

00:14:51.000 Really picking your uh spots there, aren't you?

00:14:54.000 That that's just over the line.

00:14:56.000 I think Hitler, okay, fine, we can talk, but I draw the line at blowing up the world trade centers. 0.91

00:15:02.000 That's true.

00:15:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:03.000 Okay.

00:15:03.000 So that's weird.

00:15:04.000 That's a weird place to draw the lines.

00:15:05.000 I draw them further back.

00:15:07.000 I I certainly I draw them.

00:15:10.000 Before Hitler, like I go even further than you, I guess. 0.78

00:15:12.000 I don't know.

00:15:12.000 Maybe maybe it's just me.

00:15:14.000 But listen, it's funny because you know when we talk about Hitler, you know, some there are people on the right, far extreme, and I don't not like a mainstream at all view.

00:15:24.000 And that will look at Hitler and go, oh, see, he was just trying to preserve culture, or the Jews were controlling you know, banks, and that's really what the problem was, and that was a pro it was part of a problem in Europe and other places in the world where there was some consolidation that you had to work through and figure out. 0.66

00:15:40.000 And there were social issues in certain places that Hitler was trying to address.

00:15:44.000 Here's the problem.

00:15:44.000 It's the methods that he chose to address the real problems that they did have.

00:15:50.000 That was the issue.

00:15:51.000 And I I don't understand how people can lose sight of that.

00:15:54.000 So a strategy that Hitler used to win elections by being a good orator and kind of stirring up crowds and getting them going, it's okay to look at that and go, hey, it would probably be a good idea if you're looking at kind of the blueprint, which is what it seems this book is doing. 0.81

00:16:09.000 Yeah.

00:16:09.000 Looking at a blueprint to win elections, it's like, hey, there's a strategy there about speaking to the every man's concerns.

00:16:15.000 Now, Hitler did it in a dishonest, bad, maniacal kind of way, but it doesn't mean that the strategy is wrong. 0.96

00:16:23.000 And the author to lots of Hitler bad to his credit.

00:16:27.000 I mean, where you'll give the credit.

00:16:29.000 He did say, listen, we can let history judge him on his authoritarianism and how he treated the Jews.

00:16:34.000 That's a different question.

00:16:34.000 Yeah, different.

00:16:35.000 This is specifically how he'd sort of mobilized a population behind an idea rhetorically.

00:16:40.000 It's not saying go out and kill your political opponents, although he says they should be exercised from political discussion and political participation.

00:16:48.000 So did he say they're squashed?

00:16:49.000 Or would we have another lie?

00:16:50.000 Medihassan lie.

00:16:51.000 No.

00:16:52.000 No.

00:16:52.000 I don't know.

00:16:52.000 I haven't read the whole thing.

00:16:54.000 I'm sure Mehdi Hassan's going to run to X right now and correct his grievous error and apologize and seek forgiveness.

00:16:59.000 Yeah.

00:17:00.000 I don't think that's keep Japan.

00:17:02.000 Japan's a great place.

00:17:03.000 Yeah.

00:17:03.000 I mean, there's a there's a huge movement um globally to keep places, places, like to keep whatever country in Europe that.

00:17:11.000 And I think it's I I think honestly, it's needed.

00:17:13.000 I think the French need to step up and do the exact same thing.

00:17:15.000 They're a huge part of this problem.

00:17:17.000 Yes.

00:17:18.000 Um Italians are I don't think people know that Italians experience this more painfully and faster than just about anybody else in Europe.

00:17:27.000 Correct.

00:17:27.000 Which is is super strange.

00:17:28.000 But they was the island Montusa or something like that.

00:17:31.000 That people would come over in boats by it literally like completely swamped the population of that island.

00:17:37.000 And then they would get from there to Italy and from Italy, they would go and be dispersed throughout Europe. 0.82

00:17:43.000 And it's just this insane idea, guys, that we're gonna make the world a better place by just opening up our borders.

00:17:49.000 It's never gonna work.

00:17:50.000 And I do hope it's Japan stays. 1.00

00:17:52.000 A word of caution and jest in all this stuff, talking about like Hitler and making jokes.

00:17:57.000 It is it's funny because I think we're at a place in history where you It's you need to be able to make jokes about things.

00:18:02.000 Yeah.

00:18:02.000 But to say that we should emulate the way that he did no, he was not doing things correctly.

00:18:06.000 No.

00:18:07.000 He would have been a bad person at any point in history because that's just what it is.

00:18:11.000 But to c but to compare someone like Georgia Maloney or Takai or even Victor Orban to a Hitler is insane.

00:18:18.000 Because if you really thought that those people were like Hitler, you would not feel so comfortable in making the comparisons to Hitler.

00:18:24.000 You would be very, very dishonest rhetoric, and I think it needs to be kind of tamed on that side, and the right needs to be very careful not to go too far as an overreaction because those people on the left, they're pushing us towards that.

00:18:37.000 They want that reaction, so they can legitimately make the claim.

00:18:40.000 Oh, these people are electionazists.

00:18:42.000 So we have to be careful on in falling into that trap.

00:18:45.000 Yeah.

00:18:45.000 That's all I would uh the word of caution that I would leave us with on that.

00:18:48.000 All right.

00:18:49.000 Um there's two other really quick stories that I want to get to, and we'll do some chat um as well.

00:18:56.000 Um I'm I'm trying to figure out which one I want to go to first.

00:18:59.000 I think I'm gonna go to Jay Jones.

00:19:00.000 So let me let me just set this up for for a lot of you.

00:19:03.000 You've probably you probably won't see a whole lot about it on CNN, but some of the mainstream media are covering this, it's just how they're covering that really is the uh the interesting part.

00:19:12.000 But text messages from the Democrat uh from Virginia, who's I guess a candidate for the attorney general, um, were leaked three days ago.

00:19:21.000 This is Jay Jones.

00:19:22.000 And in the text from 2022 to a GOP colleague, Jones said he wanted to shoot then GOP from Virginia speaker, Todd Gilbert, writing.

00:19:34.000 It's these are from the texts, right?

00:19:36.000 So I this is being widely reported, so I'm gonna read what this says.

00:19:40.000 Are we able to 100% confirm?

00:19:42.000 Have they got given confirmation?

00:19:44.000 Because nobody's come out and said these are fake, right?

00:19:46.000 Doesn't sound national review, usually does very, very good.

00:19:49.000 Okay, so we'll we'll say what National Review and several other people are saying.

00:19:53.000 Uh supposedly from Jay Jones, three people, two bullets.

00:20:00.000 Gilbert, Hitler, and Pol Pot. 0.74

00:20:03.000 See. 0.99

00:20:03.000 Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. 0.99

00:20:06.000 Spoiler, put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know, and he receives both bullets every time.

00:20:14.000 Uh Jones also wrote about Gilbert's kids.

00:20:16.000 Yes, I've told you this before.

00:20:18.000 Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy. 0.67

00:20:21.000 I mean, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and that they're breeding little fascists? 0.83

00:20:27.000 Yes.

00:20:30.000 You're referring to a political opponent and wife and kids.

00:20:34.000 Pull pull the the texts.

00:20:36.000 Can you isolate just the texts for me?

00:20:37.000 Or then just leave that there.

00:20:39.000 Um I'll start with the the thing.

00:20:42.000 I there is an I point blank asked you more than three times, and you dug in that you meant it.

00:20:48.000 I honestly am questioning a lot today. 0.63

00:20:51.000 That's the response to which he said, I mean, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil and they're breeding little fascists? 0.90

00:20:57.000 Yes.

00:20:58.000 Like basically, whoever this conversation was with, I'm not sure who that was.

00:21:02.000 Um basically this guy doubled down.

00:21:05.000 And I guess I guess he has no plans to end his campaign.

00:21:11.000 According to Politico.

00:21:14.000 That's insane.

00:21:16.000 For now, I mean, you know how these things go.

00:21:18.000 They they have no plans to end the campaign until the campaign has plans to end itself because you have no support anymore.

00:21:25.000 But uh the dem governor of VA, uh sorry, the candidate for governor, Abigail Span Bargar, put out a statement condemning his remarks, but but but did not call.

00:21:36.000 Is it resign or or what office does he hold right now?

00:21:39.000 Because he's the candidate.

00:21:42.000 Can somebody clarify that for me?

00:21:43.000 Because this is written in a way that makes it sound like he's resigning from some position that he currently holds, and I don't know what that is.

00:21:49.000 But uh he's also three days in from this information coming out, lost no endorsements so far.

00:21:56.000 Yeah, file.

00:21:57.000 The black men vote given uh endorsement.

00:22:00.000 That's uh interesting.

00:22:02.000 Well, let's let's file it in the uh the left is violent, change my mind research document.

00:22:06.000 We should absolutely do that.

00:22:08.000 And by the way, if if anybody on our side came out and said what they said, what this person said on text message and it kind of came out and like somebody pushed back and said, Hey ha ha ha.

00:22:19.000 And he goes, No, I'm serious.

00:22:22.000 Which is kind of what happened.

00:22:23.000 It's essentially the text thread if you read it.

00:22:25.000 It it's it's pretty disturbing.

00:22:27.000 So go and check it out on X. But uh hey, That happens on both sides, right?

00:22:32.000 Everybody on the on the right right now.

00:22:34.000 Can we condemn that?

00:22:36.000 Can we just say, hey, that's not okay?

00:22:38.000 Okay.

00:22:38.000 Everybody on the left, can you condemn that?

00:22:41.000 Pretty simple process, I think.

00:22:44.000 When this kind of stuff happens, we condemn it.

00:22:46.000 When somebody shoots up a school and says, I did it in the name of white supremacy.

00:22:50.000 I don't know that that's happened in my lifetime.

00:22:52.000 I don't know if somebody went after for white supremacy and did that.

00:22:55.000 Of course I condemn that.

00:22:57.000 Nobody should do that.

00:22:58.000 Can we say the same thing on the other side, or is it just deflecting so that your message doesn't get crowded out of the news cycle and so that you can push things that don't really actually solve anything?

00:23:08.000 They push us to a place of acceptance through the rhetoric.

00:23:10.000 It's if you cause and we've said it a million times, we'll say it once more.

00:23:13.000 If you call someone a fascist and a Nazi, you do not deal with them at the ballot box. 0.86

00:23:17.000 There's only if we could agree, everyone, if you were the French resistance, would it be would you be justified in killing the Nazi occupiers? 0.84

00:23:24.000 I think we'd all agree yes.

00:23:25.000 Yes, of course.

00:23:26.000 There would be no argument.

00:23:27.000 So that's what they try to do.

00:23:29.000 They try to paint the one side as being equivalent or worse than the Nazis in some cases.

00:23:33.000 Yeah.

00:23:34.000 Well, then why should I feel bad about calling for their death?

00:23:36.000 Why should I feel bad if their kids are going to grow up in a father of this household?

00:23:40.000 That's what they want to push us to a place of.

00:23:42.000 Yeah.

00:23:42.000 That's really scary.

00:23:44.000 It's especially scary in this uh scenario because he's running for attorney general.

00:23:48.000 Uh yeah.

00:23:49.000 Yeah.

00:23:50.000 Like he'll have prosecuting power.

00:23:52.000 Or or screw point.

00:23:53.000 Or the ability not to prosecute.

00:23:55.000 Yep.

00:23:55.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:56.000 Like, oh well, my political ideology.

00:24:00.000 You know, bring indictments upon people that don't deserve them and and put people in prison, or or worse.

00:24:05.000 Try to, you know, try somebody under the death penalty.

00:24:08.000 Yeah, that's pretty and research also clarified that the uh texts were between uh uh Jones and House delegate, a Republican, Carrie Coiner.

00:24:17.000 Jeez. 1.00

00:24:17.000 So he's also a moron. 1.00

00:24:19.000 Do we find out what position he has? 1.00

00:24:20.000 Jay Jones right now.

00:24:22.000 Have not seen yet.

00:24:23.000 Oh wait, uh currently lists himself as attorney and former state delegate.

00:24:28.000 Okay, so not resign.

00:24:31.000 We admonish research.

00:24:32.000 Resign as an attorney?

00:24:33.000 No, basically, resign would have been for a public job.

00:24:37.000 You don't resign as an attorney, you just stop practicing.

00:24:40.000 So that's probably to exit the campaign.

00:24:42.000 Exit the campaign as a candidate.

00:24:45.000 How dare you research.

00:24:47.000 Not a little bit.

00:24:50.000 Why do I we have a member of the research team here, though it wasn't your fault?

00:24:54.000 It could have been.

00:24:54.000 No, it wasn't.

00:24:55.000 But it could have been it just as easily could have been.

00:24:59.000 Okay.

00:24:59.000 By the way, research chimed in and wanted to let you know that you were thinking of Lampedusa Island.

00:25:03.000 We said I said lamped doosa, but it's Lampedusa.

00:25:07.000 No, I think they're gaslighting.

00:25:08.000 I do think you said it correct the first time.

00:25:09.000 Why are you being wrong and gaslighting in the same five seconds?

00:25:14.000 Do better.

00:25:15.000 Yeah, that is.

00:25:17.000 And listen.

00:25:19.000 I think it's Sam.

00:25:21.000 I think it's H.R. Sam out there.

00:25:22.000 It's when I said Yeah.

00:25:24.000 I know what you say.

00:25:26.000 Also, he's Jewish.

00:25:26.000 He did have to fast.

00:25:27.000 So he's coming after me.

00:25:28.000 So because of my blonde hair and blue eyes, and I've told you many times.

00:25:32.000 You guys paid me on time, so I support Israel every single time.

00:25:36.000 $7,000 a post, baby.

00:25:38.000 All right.

00:25:39.000 So uh now that I've drug us back into that topic really quickly, uh, there's they're talking about on CNN right now, indirect Israel Hamas talks begin in Egypt.

00:25:49.000 I don't know what indirect means, but okay, fine.

00:25:52.000 I hope they're going to finally get to a peace solution.

00:25:54.000 I think everybody right now would like there to be a peaceful resolution to this that does not include Hamas existing anymore and uh does not include people that are in Gaza being killed anymore.

00:26:05.000 I everybody I think is on the same side on that one saying, hey, uh but actually I know they're not because they're actually saying from the river to the sea, which means you know, we're gonna take all this land and kill every single Israeli that happens to be in it. 0.96

00:26:17.000 I know that's where we are, but I'm not I don't want to I don't want to argue that.

00:26:20.000 I do want to come back to our friend Dave Smith.

00:26:23.000 And listen, Dave, I'm I'm gonna call you out on something here because I think you did factually get something wrong, but I do think we would still have a very productive conversation. 0.86

00:26:30.000 We have some disagreements, but I don't think you're a stupid person because you made a mistake or that you've been saying something incorrect. 0.98

00:26:36.000 I do think it becomes pretty stupid when you don't acknowledge it and just understand what people are saying in a critique. 0.98

00:26:43.000 But um Milk Bar TV put this uh supercut together and uh put it out on X from when Dave Smith and and somebody tell me again who he was uh uh debating with or having a conversation with last night. 0.70

00:26:55.000 Is it Campbell?

00:26:56.000 Um I can't remember the guy's name.

00:26:57.000 I apologize.

00:26:58.000 I want to make sure.

00:26:58.000 So guys go go find that.

00:27:00.000 I I can't remember uh the name, but he's having a conversation about a very, very and I've listened to a lot of Dave Smith's stuff.

00:27:07.000 Very consistent claim that he has made, and uh it kind of unravels on him.

00:27:12.000 So we're going to play this and then we'll do a little bit of play pause here.

00:27:15.000 We also have a four-star general who's on record saying that he saw these plans.

00:27:20.000 It's Coleman, yeah.

00:27:21.000 That they were going to go overthrow all of these governments.

00:27:23.000 But why is it then that I got four star general Wesley Clark, Supreme Commander of uh Supreme Commander of the NATO forces?

00:27:32.000 Why is it that he told me that he saw the plans we know that's the four-star general Wesley Clark himself said that he he was out of power at the time, but he went to the Pentagon and he said that he saw plans.

00:27:44.000 How come I have four star general Wesley Clark telling me ten years prior that we had already made the plan?

00:27:51.000 This has been confirmed by four-star General Wesley Clark.

00:27:53.000 How many stars that we were going to topple seven countries in five years?

00:27:57.000 Wesley Clark is the Dave Smith has gone on just about every single show out there, and for good reason, he he's very interested.

00:28:04.000 He's very anti-war, which is fine. 1.00

00:28:06.000 I think that's a perfectly legitimate place to come from.

00:28:08.000 I think there's some challenges with it that don't really match up with reality.

00:28:12.000 But I have a heart for people who don't want to see suffering and dying in the world, even if it's uh you know completely necessary in some cases to protect civilization from the evils of maybe Hitler or something like that. 0.89

00:28:21.000 I get it, I understand it.

00:28:22.000 But you do need to be strong enough to go, well, guess what?

00:28:25.000 I gotta go defend my family.

00:28:26.000 He has said himself that he would do that.

00:28:28.000 So I I don't think he's coming from this completely pacifist position.

00:28:32.000 He just doesn't like getting dragged into wars needlessly, is what it seems.

00:28:35.000 But the challenge is here, what he's saying is that in the United States that we had a plan to topple seven nations in five years, and that four-star general Wesley Clark even saw it to say Israel and neocons, because of Israel's influence, are controlling us and see that plan as just playing out right in front of your eyes.

00:28:56.000 And so it lends credibility to the argument that he makes next, not in our clips, but in the rest of his arguments that he is making.

00:29:02.000 And the problem is, as you'll see in just a second, it gets undercut.

00:29:06.000 Continue.

00:29:07.000 Four star general, he was the head of NATO, and he told Amy Goodman on Democracy Now that he saw in late 2001 become known as the Far.

00:29:19.000 Right.

00:29:20.000 That the plan from the neocons in the government was that we were gonna overthrow all these governments in the region um in the next f uh five years.

00:29:28.000 Let's talk about the this this Wesley Clark memo that he never saw.

00:29:32.000 Okay.

00:29:33.000 So four-star General Wesley.

00:29:34.000 He never saw it?

00:29:35.000 Yeah, he says so in the C-SPAN interview.

00:29:37.000 Whoops.

00:29:38.000 You don't remember this?

00:29:39.000 He's he's talking about it.

00:29:40.000 He says that he's got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense's office today, and he said, This is a memo that describes how we're gonna take out seven countries in five years.

00:29:52.000 I said, Is it classified?

00:29:54.000 He said, Yes, sir.

00:29:55.000 I said I said, Well, don't show it to me.

00:29:59.000 Rumsfeld, who's sometimes abrasive approach, often alienated other cabinet members, produced twenty to sixty snowflakes, these memos, snowflakes a day.

00:30:08.000 Twenty to sixty a day.

00:30:11.000 Does that sound like plans?

00:30:13.000 Because Dave Smith said plans.

00:30:15.000 They saw plans to overthrow these governments.

00:30:19.000 He's gonna obfuscate and say some stuff about well, I didn't mean overthrow, it doesn't always overthrow, but he said plans.

00:30:24.000 And again, this is what we go back and get pissed off at Medi Hassan for because he said something that President Trump didn't say.

00:30:29.000 Wesley Clark never said he saw even the memo in that democracy now clip, he said he was holding the memo and said this is a plan or this is a memo, sorry, not plan, a memo about how we're gonna overthrow seven countries in five years.

00:30:45.000 Didn't say that he actually saw it.

00:30:47.000 He talked to the guy that Wesley Clark was uh supposedly talking to at the time, and he's like, I never showed him anything.

00:30:53.000 So he's mischaracterizing every single step along the way when he's saying that four-star general Wesley Clark to add credence to his position.

00:31:02.000 That's a problem, and he gets called out rightfully so by Mr. Was it Coleman?

00:31:08.000 Coleman.

00:31:09.000 Somebody get me his next one.

00:31:10.000 Barry Weiss's free pressure, Coleman Hughes, thank you very much.

00:31:13.000 Coleman Hughes, Mr. Coleman Hughes.

00:31:15.000 All right, go.

00:31:16.000 Without his thoughts in writing as the basis for developing policy, every once in a while, one of these ranting Rumsfeld notes to Condi would come.

00:31:23.000 You can almost hear the eye roll. 1.00

00:31:25.000 Like, this dude Rumsfeld is drowning us in his little thoughts and his stupid memos. 0.99

00:31:30.000 Do you have any evidence that this memo was actually important as opposed to one snowflake in a shifting strategy of 60,000? 0.99

00:31:39.000 The fact is that much of what he said came true.

00:31:42.000 And that's what makes it uh interesting.

00:31:48.000 And that this was part of a strategy to overthrow seven governments in five years.

00:31:53.000 And all of them except one have been done.

00:31:57.000 It's literally, he names seven countries, and there's one to go.

00:32:02.000 And that one, by the way, happens to be the one that Donald Trump is flirting with a war with right now, Iran.

00:32:06.000 All the rest of them have happened.

00:32:07.000 Starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. 0.93

00:32:14.000 Three of the countries on the on out of seven, almost half the countries have not done regime change, let alone within five years, let alone in the specific order prescribed by the memo.

00:32:23.000 And and not to mention, we ha we did do regime change in countries not on the memo at all, like Liberia.

00:32:28.000 So there's actually no variable from the memo that actually matches our foreign policy.

00:32:33.000 and Coleman my argument here isn't that again I'm not saying that memo came to life and exactly what was written down on that is happening of course there were more memos of course there were more decisions that were added in afterwards I'm At that moment, Dave has to go, okay.

00:32:51.000 I was very clear that six out of the seven have happened.

00:32:54.000 I've said it multiple times on Joe Rogan's podcast and anywhere else that I've had a platform.

00:32:58.000 Six of the seven have happened, and there's one left, and President Donald Trump is flirting with war with Iran.

00:33:03.000 By the way, the war with Iran that he says the Israelis were dragging us into, and that Donald Trump should have been impeached over even before we did anything about Iran.

00:33:12.000 Do you remember that, Dave?

00:33:13.000 That was the problem that we had with you, is that not that you were wrong on some of this other stuff, though I do believe that you are.

00:33:18.000 I know you make a you a very compelling case, and I've learned a whole lot listening to the podcast that you guys have done.

00:33:23.000 Fine.

00:33:24.000 But I think you're wrong on some stuff.

00:33:25.000 But you called for President Trump's impeachment before we did anything relating to Iran.

00:33:29.000 This wasn't when we were in the process of bombing and we were making sure that no collateral damage was going to happen in response, retaliation for the bombing.

00:33:37.000 Not in that period.

00:33:38.000 You called for it, if you remember, before any of that even happened, before you even knew planes were being ready to go over and make strikes.

00:33:44.000 Donald Trump should be impeached.

00:33:46.000 I am upset or frustrated or I shouldn't have.

00:33:49.000 I can't remember your exact words, so I'm not going to put them in your mouth.

00:33:51.000 You said that you should not have supported Donald Trump for president and that you're disappointed or ashamed or something along those lines before any of that ever happened.

00:34:00.000 You were very clear.

00:34:01.000 Here's the moment where you go, ah, you know what?

00:34:04.000 You're right.

00:34:05.000 I did make this out to be more than it actually is.

00:34:08.000 It would have been just fine to say there's this clean break memo that's been floating around on what Israel wants people to do in the Middle East, really themselves.

00:34:16.000 But obviously, if they can get the United States to help in certain ways, that'd be fine.

00:34:20.000 One of those was actually to prop up certain places to make sure that they were a buffer.

00:34:23.000 It makes perfect sense, by the way, if you're Israel to want to make sure that your enemies are a little weaker. 0.92

00:34:28.000 And then saying that the United States had a memo created about that plan.

00:34:33.000 It would have been strong enough to say that.

00:34:35.000 But you used it as evidence of something that didn't actually exist.

00:34:38.000 All right, let's play to the end.

00:34:38.000 Saying that a four-star general said the decision had been made, that he had sources in the defense department.

00:34:44.000 It hadn't.

00:34:45.000 His sources in the defense department.

00:34:47.000 Who is basing it on what?

00:34:48.000 The memo.

00:34:49.000 There might be lots of memos that go out every day, but the a memo that says we're going to fight, we're going to topple seven countries in the next five years, a pretty big memo.

00:34:56.000 That's not just one of the regular memos.

00:34:58.000 Do you have any evidence it was a big memo?

00:35:00.000 Your only evidence is the guy who never read it. 0.98

00:35:03.000 This is you realize how ridiculous this is.

00:35:05.000 You couldn't, if you were historian writing a book, you you'd have to cut this out of the book because you're relying on his hearsay of someone that never even read the document, much less you or I have never read the document, and then we know that they were writing 60 documents a day that Condoleezza Rice was putting in the trash.

00:35:20.000 It's it's a ridiculously low bar of evidence you'd have to have to consider this memo and everything implied by it important.

00:35:27.000 I mean, I I don't know how else to say this, dude.

00:35:30.000 I this just feels so nutty to me.

00:35:32.000 I guess we'll just leave this up to people.

00:35:34.000 And I'm not a historian writing a book.

00:35:36.000 I'm a guy talking about these issues to the American people.

00:35:39.000 So I I don't know.

00:35:40.000 You can you can decide whether you find that to be a pretty interesting story or not.

00:35:43.000 Ah, this is exactly what Douglas Murray said and called Dave Smith out for.

00:35:49.000 Dave Smith, when cornered on facts that he doesn't like, will go, I'm just a guy talking about this.

00:35:56.000 That's what Douglas Murray said.

00:35:57.000 He's like, you kind of hide behind the fact that you're not a historian, that you're not a whatever you need to be.

00:36:02.000 I'm not an expert.

00:36:03.000 I'm just some guy talking about this.

00:36:04.000 That that's not the point.

00:36:05.000 It doesn't matter who you are.

00:36:06.000 It doesn't matter what your credentials are.

00:36:08.000 It matters that you were wrong and you misrepresented something.

00:36:10.000 And you just need to own that.

00:36:12.000 Like I think when we do that here in this room, like if we get something wrong, we come back and we talk about hey, we got that wrong.

00:36:17.000 Sorry, admonish us, right?

00:36:18.000 We have a whole second.

00:36:20.000 We have an admonish button for a reason so that we can make sure that we get these things right.

00:36:24.000 Dave, come on the show and make your case.

00:36:26.000 We've extended this invitation.

00:36:28.000 The timing didn't work out before, so full disclosure, Dave did reach back out to us.

00:36:32.000 It was when we were going on uh I believe it was break.

00:36:35.000 He was going on vacation like the next day or something like that.

00:36:38.000 But we've reached back out since and heard nothing.

00:36:40.000 I yeah, I hate to do given people's schedules, and I know how Stephen gets I know being a comedian you're traveling, so this is not to say that he's ducked us.

00:36:47.000 No.

00:36:47.000 It's just been the communication went a little dry.

00:36:49.000 We'd like to make it happen still.

00:36:51.000 I would love to make it happen because I think he does have some very interesting information that the audience would be well served to understand and put in context.

00:36:59.000 He does.

00:37:00.000 But in this sp specific case, when you get called out like this, you could see where he has that moment of where he's like, I have to defend this position, even though I can't factually defend this position.

00:37:10.000 Can I add just one thing when you're done for this? 0.97

00:37:12.000 Um so I agree with everything you said, and you know how much fault I take with Dave making unsubstantiated claims, basically just to shit on Israel.

00:37:21.000 That being said, if we notice where this a lot of the other side that I happen to disagree with is going to have sort of a point here when they say, but yeah, that was done on the free press podcast by the free press, which is owned by Barry Weiss, which is very, very pro-Israel.

00:37:35.000 So why should I trust that?

00:37:37.000 So that let's I want to head that claim off a little bit.

00:37:39.000 Yeah.

00:37:40.000 Well, I think there is two things that can be true at once that Israel's not responsible for everything that the United States does, they are the parent in the relationship.

00:37:50.000 Uh, but and Israel does act like a spoiled little child sometimes. 0.53

00:37:54.000 Yes.

00:37:54.000 And I think to their besides credit, the one reason that it's so easy to blame Israel is because yes, as Christians, there's I think there's a reason to support it, mostly for the preservation of Christian historical sites.

00:38:06.000 That I think if an Islamic country took over today, like we've seen uh ISIS do even in their own in Iraq and stuff, they would desecrate all the holy sites, those would be gone. 1.00

00:38:14.000 Yeah, those are worth protecting, and if nothing else, I think that's why we should have a good relationship and an uh an alliance with Israel. 0.52

00:38:21.000 However, there's a lot of inertia and a lot of Israeli money influencing our politicians.

00:38:26.000 We know this.

00:38:27.000 We've talked about API, which is a big reason why there are still too many resources in that region.

00:38:32.000 When 10 years ago we made the pledge to pivot to Asia, and we still haven't done it, and a lot of the reason is because the Israelis are using their influence to keep our resources there when it's really not benefiting our country to do so. 0.82

00:38:46.000 Yeah.

00:38:46.000 That's true.

00:38:47.000 However, these people that come out and say, Well, it's and it's not Dave, but it's like the Jews in Israel. 0.74

00:38:54.000 They prevent us from having a real conversation over what our relationship with that country should look like.

00:38:59.000 Yeah.

00:38:59.000 And that is doing a disservice to the American and to real American interests.

00:39:03.000 Well, and that's where you know people like Dave Smith do have a point.

00:39:06.000 When you have a guy like Netanyahu coming out and saying this could be the end of Israel, correct. 1.00

00:39:10.000 That is meant to get people to give money and support to Israel to support that state remaining, even though that's not always true.

00:39:16.000 It's like the the boy that cried Wolf.

00:39:18.000 I get that they have enemies, and I get that they have there's some interesting things that happen.

00:39:23.000 And if I were if I were somebody who lived in that country since its inception has been under attack, I get that I would have a little bit different worldview, and the attacks preceded that.

00:39:33.000 So I understand that.

00:39:34.000 My only thing is.

00:39:34.000 They play on it, they play on evangelical sympathies a little bit.

00:39:37.000 Very much.

00:39:38.000 And I do not like how they do that.

00:39:39.000 I don't either.

00:39:40.000 I I think that's a problem.

00:39:41.000 That's why I was trying to have a conversation or and did with Andrew Wilson.

00:39:44.000 I'll talk about probably a little bit of this with Jay Dyer when I do uh something with him, and then also Joel C. Rosenberg, heartfelt condolences, man.

00:39:51.000 I know that his I believe his mom just passed away uh very recently, but he's gonna come on the show and I'm gonna talk to him.

00:39:56.000 Fantastic author, but knows a lot about this as well from a different perspective, right?

00:40:00.000 I'm trying to get all these different kind of perspectives that I think matter.

00:40:03.000 He's lived in Israel for a while, at least in both places.

00:40:07.000 Um, but I think the the main point and the frustration that I have with this is not that I just disagreed with Dave.

00:40:14.000 It's that when a perfectly rational, reasonable counterpoint gets brought up, Dave ran to the I'm just a guy talking on the internet.

00:40:22.000 Instead of acknowledging it.

00:40:23.000 You just have to acknowledge, okay, fine, you know what, that's correct, and maybe I've made too big of a deal about this, and maybe I've misspoken about what actually happened.

00:40:30.000 Didn't happen.

00:40:31.000 I hope he comes on the show to be able to clear those things up.

00:40:34.000 Consider this a formal invitation, sir.

00:40:37.000 Uh All right, let's do some chat really quickly, and then we will send you on your way in 15 minutes.

00:40:43.000 All right.

00:40:44.000 Well, since you just brought up Barry Weiss.

00:40:45.000 Uh question for the crew, and I guess Gerald from Tyree.

00:40:49.000 How dare you?

00:40:50.000 Do you believe that?

00:40:50.000 Hold on, Tyree.

00:40:52.000 He actually wrote that.

00:40:53.000 Yeah.

00:40:54.000 Yeah.

00:40:55.000 Do you believe Barry Weiss will actually bring balanced fact-based news back to CBS now that she is editor-in-chief of CBS News as they state she will.

00:41:04.000 I mean I don't know.

00:41:06.000 It can't be worse.

00:41:08.000 Yes, it could.

00:41:09.000 Well, then CBS.

00:41:11.000 I don't know.

00:41:12.000 Things can always get worse.

00:41:13.000 That's fair.

00:41:14.000 That's fair.

00:41:14.000 So here's here's where I will there is a there is a part of me right now that understands the influence in media and the game that is being played.

00:41:25.000 Sure.

00:41:25.000 Right.

00:41:26.000 Um I think it is 100% true.

00:41:28.000 And just like the the conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk and his death assassination were linked to Israel, saying, Oh, well, you're gonna do this.

00:41:37.000 Put put all of that aside.

00:41:38.000 I'm not discussing Ian Carroll's harebrain schemes or Candace Owens or anything like that.

00:41:43.000 What I'm really wanting to focus in on is the fact that it was apparent to everybody that on college campuses Israel's losing the argument.

00:41:50.000 Yes.

00:41:51.000 Big time.

00:41:52.000 And it's you can think it's because they're wrong.

00:41:56.000 I think in a lot of ways it's because messaging is really difficult in war.

00:42:01.000 And whoever is losing in a war is probably going to come off as the more sympathetic party, even though there are barbaric things that those guys have done.

00:42:08.000 They could have ended this war a long time ago.

00:42:09.000 I think Douglas Murray in a monk debate with Medihassan and some other people made a very, very good point.

00:42:15.000 He's like, I don't understand uh I don't think that I've ever read in the rules of war that you get to start a war and then complain about losing.

00:42:22.000 And I think that's understandable.

00:42:24.000 And I think you can have some really strong feelings on both sides about this, but Israel is having a lot of influence in ways on our politicians that we've talked about with APAC and other things and through the evangelical church, but one way they're really losing is getting into the younger audiences and talking about what's going on.

00:42:42.000 And I think that's something that they're trying to fight against.

00:42:45.000 And so then you could look at kind of people getting put into positions of power and news organizations being purchased and go, it's all part of this big grand plan.

00:42:54.000 And there is some credibility to a claim like that given the environment.

00:42:57.000 And so I think that's why I'm like, it could be worse because they may not trust her at all because of that, that overriding factor in their minds, thinking, well, this is just another play.

00:43:06.000 I can't trust anything they say.

00:43:07.000 Which I guess fine.

00:43:08.000 You finally don't trust CBS.

00:43:10.000 Good.

00:43:11.000 To your point on the sympathetic side being the one that's losing, I don't think it's ever been more true than in the social media age.

00:43:16.000 Uh, because George came up with this term, and it's very I like it.

00:43:19.000 It's called the Geor uh it's cut not the George Floyd paradox.

00:43:23.000 The Sean Pennsylvania.

00:43:24.000 The Sean Penn paradox.

00:43:25.000 Yes.

00:43:26.000 Where he is going to support whoever's sympathetic because he'll support the uh the Ukrainians against Russia.

00:43:31.000 He'll go give his Oscar to Vladimir Zelensky, and then he'll support this.

00:43:35.000 I don't really want it.

00:43:36.000 But then he'll support the Palestinians or the Palestinians too, but then he'll support the Venice Whalens.

00:43:42.000 Which is weird.

00:43:43.000 Who are being propped up by the Russians. 0.99

00:43:45.000 Yes.

00:43:45.000 Who then are tangled web.

00:43:47.000 It's a very tangled web that makes no logical sense as long as you're supporting who you think is sympathetic in the moment. 0.97

00:43:53.000 So I I think Israel is not a perfect country by any means, but they have done a shit show job on messaging. 0.99

00:44:00.000 Yeah, big time. 0.93

00:44:01.000 And I I think I think there's been a ton of missteps in this war, and I think there's been some stuff that needs to be looked into for sure.

00:44:07.000 Legally.

00:44:08.000 100%.

00:44:08.000 Is that okay?

00:44:09.000 Is it okay to say that?

00:44:10.000 Yes.

00:44:10.000 All right.

00:44:10.000 Israel needs to be held to a very high standard as one of our greatest allies, apparently so.

00:44:15.000 Ted Cruz needs to be able to find the place in the Bible where it says that Israel needs to be supported by the United States.

00:44:19.000 I'm pretty sure you're not going to find it.

00:44:21.000 But we also need to understand that there is a lot of messaging going out there that's just not accurate.

00:44:25.000 There's so many stories that came out from Hamas that we pointed out early, and uh and you need to understand that.

00:44:30.000 So we'll see.

00:44:30.000 Uh all right, next chat.

00:44:32.000 Next chat from RDPAL.

00:44:33.000 Question for the crew.

00:44:35.000 With states like Illinois and California openly disobeying federal laws and orders, when does it get to a point where the federal government can charge Johnson and Pritzker?

00:44:43.000 I don't know uh where that line would be drawn.

00:44:46.000 I mean, between the governor doing things and mayors.

00:44:49.000 Like I I think they should go in right now to Chicago and be like, this is ours to a degree.

00:44:54.000 This is ours.

00:44:55.000 Johnson, you want ice free zones?

00:44:56.000 No, no, no, there is no ice free zone.

00:44:57.000 This is this entire area, ice can operate wherever they want.

00:44:59.000 Sorry.

00:45:00.000 Can't do anything about that.

00:45:01.000 You're not gonna allow the police to come and assist the fantastic National Guard troops will be here.

00:45:06.000 They'll be on call just like police officers, except they'll be the ones that do their jobs.

00:45:10.000 Because not saying that police don't know how to do their jobs, you just won't let them, so we'll let them.

00:45:16.000 I I re at some point I don't understand.

00:45:19.000 Like I really don't understand how we allow as a society, we allow certain parts of our society to just go, no.

00:45:26.000 And the idea that when it's not a state issue.

00:45:28.000 Correct.

00:45:28.000 It's not.

00:45:29.000 It's a federal issue.

00:45:30.000 You can't, as a federal government, you can't let these local administrators destroy their cities because no, they're not.

00:45:38.000 They're the American peoples, they're their citizens.

00:45:40.000 And like being in Chicago this weekend in downtown, where they decide to keep care of it, it's a gorgeous city.

00:45:44.000 It is a world-class city.

00:45:46.000 Like to the likes that blew my mind, to be honest with you.

00:45:49.000 But then you go just a little bit out of that, but they suddenly don't really care about their citizens, and it's a hellhole.

00:45:54.000 Yeah.

00:45:55.000 And if they continue to let these policies run rampant, pretty soon the nice parts stop existing, like they have in New York to a large degree, like they have in Los Angeles to a large degree.

00:46:04.000 So I I don't know the legality here.

00:46:05.000 Maybe Josh has a stronger opinion on you know what the military should do or the guard, but that's where I'm at.

00:46:11.000 I mean, I don't have any stronger opinion.

00:46:14.000 Um I think it's totally reasonable for guard uh for guard soldiers to be protecting federal buildings because of the lack of response from local police.

00:46:23.000 Yeah.

00:46:23.000 And the stifling basically from you know, mayors and rogue mayors and governors.

00:46:29.000 Uh especially Pritzker, a billionaire.

00:46:31.000 I know, right?

00:46:32.000 Governor, like people forget about that. 1.00

00:46:33.000 He's kind of a piece of shit. 1.00

00:46:36.000 People forget. 1.00

00:46:37.000 He acts like he's one of these common men, like I eat hot dogs just like you. 0.99

00:46:42.000 Oh, okay, you billionaire fucking how many people have you displaced to put up buildings? 0.97

00:46:48.000 You know, like uh no, I think it's totally reasonable to have these people out there. 0.98

00:46:52.000 I don't think that they should be going through neighborhoods, the guard going through, you know, apartment buildings or or whatever it is that ICE officers are doing to take people, and and sure, maybe I don't agree with everything ICE is doing.

00:47:05.000 Yeah.

00:47:05.000 Um, but unfortunately, um I think that we all have to come to some kind of um uh I don't know what's the uh realization?

00:47:17.000 Not realizing yeah, I guess a realization, but it's you have to make you know compromise with yourself.

00:47:22.000 Like, you know, what is it worth to have zero apprehensions at the border or a 99.9% decrease.

00:47:31.000 How about say it this way?

00:47:32.000 Because you said it this way earlier, and I wanted I thought you said it very well.

00:47:36.000 You're like, I don't think of this as like you know immigration.

00:47:39.000 I think of this as child trafficking. 0.92

00:47:41.000 That's what I when I when I see people say fuck ice at the Oscars, when I see people say ice-free zones, to me, like I when I think of ice, I think of the the people that are going and and getting these child traffickers, the bus, the the guys that are rescuing literally hundreds. 0.98

00:47:56.000 Yeah, if not thousands of children across this country that have been trafficked here. 0.98

00:48:01.000 I I and and all the other all the other people that are victims of these immigrants these illegal immigrants' crimes, and I know it's not everyone, I get that. 1.00

00:48:08.000 And and that's where the compromise comes in is that yeah, sometimes people who who aren't doing anything wrong but are are just here illegally, they're they're they're gonna be good people put up.

00:48:18.000 They do provide for their community, they have a job, they pay taxes, but they're here illegally. 1.00

00:48:22.000 I'm sorry if you get caught up in the same building as these other people who have connections to the cartel, you're gone.

00:48:27.000 Fixing the problem.

00:48:28.000 Sorry, that sucks, but it's a compromise that you have to be willing to make.

00:48:32.000 Because the other way you compromise is you compromise American citizens, you compromise your own lives, you compromise your children's lives and your children's futures and so many other things that it it it just to me, I I logically I go to that side of it. 0.98

00:48:46.000 I go, I choose the one where we get rid of the illegals. 1.00

00:48:50.000 My my question, and I'll go to you, Lynn, is you want us to be compassionate.

00:48:54.000 I agree.

00:48:55.000 Let's be compassionate to who.

00:48:59.000 Who do our leaders have a responsibility to be compassionate towards?

00:49:05.000 Who do you as a mom, a dad, have a responsibility to be compassionate towards?

00:49:13.000 Because that matters.

00:49:15.000 Because if you're compassionate to one, it can mean no compassion towards the other at all.

00:49:23.000 Because if I'm compassionate and just say, well, let everybody in, well, I guess every one of the kids that gets trafficked and raped by these cartels and the people associated with them get no compassion.

00:49:33.000 And all the people that get killed by the cartels get no compassion as well.

00:49:37.000 And all the people whose lives are destroyed in the United States because the cartels come in and set up shop and are selling drugs and making sure that nobody snitches on them, all the violence associated, they get no compassion as well.

00:49:50.000 And then if I allow this to go on long enough, that community gets no compassion because it's taken over completely by the cartels and by people who shouldn't be here legally.

00:49:59.000 Much less if somebody comes here and the only law that they broke was getting into the country illegally.

00:50:04.000 Well, I guess I don't have compassion on potentially the person's job who they are taking.

00:50:08.000 And don't tell me that that job wouldn't be filled by somebody because we've had people filling those jobs for centuries.

00:50:15.000 They would be filled.

00:50:16.000 And the housing that is now more expensive in the area and the resources that are more stretched by the local governments, there's no compassion for everybody else.

00:50:25.000 So your compassion is misdirected.

00:50:28.000 I would like to be compassionate to the citizens of the United States, the people that the elected officials are supposed to be compassionate towards.

00:50:35.000 And then what I would like to do is make this so successful and so prosperous that we can have overflow of charity and compassion to those who are in need in other places, and we can empower them to make their places like our place.

00:50:53.000 That's what we need to do ultimately truly compassionate.

00:50:56.000 If we're gonna do something around the world, if we're gonna spend money around the world, if that's if that's a necessity, then that's what we should be doing.

00:51:04.000 Because why are all these people leaving?

00:51:06.000 Yeah.

00:51:06.000 Where are they leaving and why are they leaving?

00:51:08.000 Why are they such shitholes that everyone's leaving and going to Europe, coming here, Canada, Japan recently India? 1.00

00:51:20.000 India. 0.75

00:51:20.000 Yeah, listen. 0.75

00:51:21.000 They're all leaving India. 1.00

00:51:23.000 Go make your place better.

00:51:24.000 They said they're gonna they're trying to push I can't remember the number.

00:51:27.000 I don't want to misspeak, actually.

00:51:29.000 They're trying to push so many certain numbers.

00:51:31.000 A quarter million people from India to the rest of the world.

00:51:34.000 Was a quarter million or was it a quarter of a billion?

00:51:37.000 They got a lot of people.

00:51:39.000 I don't think it's a lot of people.

00:51:40.000 That's the only country where that could be.

00:51:42.000 That could be an error.

00:51:43.000 Yeah.

00:51:43.000 No.

00:51:45.000 What I what I read was that they were trying to their their goal was to get a quarter of a billion people dispersed.

00:51:51.000 Dispersed across the city.

00:51:52.000 I don't know.

00:51:52.000 That's how they make money.

00:51:53.000 That's how the country receives their their not their reparations, their remittances.

00:51:57.000 Yeah.

00:51:58.000 Reparations.

00:51:58.000 Well, Lane, you you had a point too, wouldn't we?

00:52:00.000 No, it's just piggybacking off both those things is that mass deportations were never going to be a prettier enjoyable thing to watch.

00:52:06.000 Not at all.

00:52:06.000 They were never going to be.

00:52:07.000 And a lot of people kind of, I think inherently understood that, but put it out of sight out of mind because they voted for Donald Trump, and that was a large majority, or not a large majority, but even a majority of Latinos in some aspects, knowing full well what he was going to do.

00:52:20.000 Yeah.

00:52:21.000 Seeing it is a different story.

00:52:23.000 Right.

00:52:23.000 And it is uncomfortable and it is not pretty.

00:52:25.000 And when you become sympathetic and your heart hurts for these people, but at the end of the day, you should have been saying something when they were allowed to be trafficked over the border.

00:52:34.000 Yeah.

00:52:34.000 You didn't.

00:52:35.000 Fixing the problem is always harder than not letting the problem happen in the first place.

00:52:39.000 But for the first time, I think the American people do have the stomach to make it happen because they've seen just how bad things can get.

00:52:46.000 They've seen Lake and Rileys killed.

00:52:48.000 They've seen other girls abducted and raped in parks.

00:52:50.000 And they've seen that happen by people that shouldn't have been here.

00:52:53.000 We cannot waste this.

00:52:54.000 So I implore the people watching this, or even conservatives that might be getting a little squeamish. 0.99

00:52:59.000 Yes, it sucks. 0.98

00:52:59.000 And yes, your your heart will cry out. 0.98

00:53:02.000 But do not let off the gas on something like this because the problem needs to be dealt with now.

00:53:06.000 Yeah.

00:53:07.000 Or there is no point in ever trying to deal with it again because you won't have a country to preserve at that point anyway.

00:53:12.000 Trevor Burrus, Jr.

00:53:12.000 You won't.

00:53:12.000 And really what I want to implore people to do is uh go and watch the interview we did with Tom Homan.

00:53:19.000 I know there was some uh video issues where he was coming across like his his video kind of messed up a little bit.

00:53:24.000 Um But go when you see a man being deported and they talk about his wife.

00:53:32.000 Oh, I know they're they're talking about the oh, is he is he dropping out of the race?

00:53:35.000 Come on.

00:53:36.000 I don't know.

00:53:37.000 All right, go to CNN real quick and then we'll come back to this.

00:53:39.000 Yeah.

00:53:39.000 Uh pretty stunning messages that were leaked.

00:53:43.000 Unbelievable he put it into a text message to another exactly.

00:53:49.000 That's a meme.

00:53:50.000 Oh god, we're faces of CNN.

00:53:54.000 Yeah, uh Republicans uh the Myers campaign has a one.

00:53:56.000 It's Slappy the Puppet.

00:53:59.000 It just repeats the text messages.

00:54:01.000 It is a brutal ad.

00:54:03.000 The question I have, and we'll see when you actually see where it's placed on this.

00:54:06.000 Is it just in the DC area?

00:54:07.000 Is it down in Roanoke?

00:54:08.000 Is it gonna be in the Richmond area?

00:54:10.000 But Republicans clearly think they now have a much better chance of winning this AG race.

00:54:14.000 Remember, Virginia is typically brutal for the uh with glasses. 1.00

00:54:18.000 It controls the White House.

00:54:19.000 It has this off off here election.

00:54:20.000 Uh coming a year after the presidential so real money behind that Roy G and uh they're not a whole I could be wrong, but we haven't got a CNN's calling it vile text this morning.

00:54:31.000 But we have nothing to do with the that is good.

00:54:33.000 That is something and that's good that they are that they're doing that.

00:54:37.000 I think they're kind of forced to talk about it.

00:54:39.000 I think it's I think it's sad that at some point uh at this point we have to be giving CNN credit for doing what they're supposed to do all the time.

00:54:45.000 Which is call stuff like this vile.

00:54:47.000 Yeah, no kidding.

00:54:51.000 Right, right.

00:54:52.000 I mean, first of all, bottom line, those messages were horrid.

00:54:55.000 And I think that it's really the pressure is going to build likely on Abigail Scam Spamberger.

00:55:03.000 She is doing very well in polling compared to her down ballot candidates, including the AG c A G nominee and the lieutenant governor nominee.

00:55:11.000 So you're going to hear Republicans'senior pressure more and more on calling Jones to drop out, which, as you know, she has not done.

00:55:18.000 Yeah, because Winston Merle, who is a Democrat, the Republican candidate for governor, has been struggling in this race.

00:55:23.000 I feel like he's got a frog in his throat.

00:55:24.000 He could be lifted up by the boss race. 0.99

00:55:27.000 And what do you think about the AG being a total dickbag?

00:55:30.000 They could help down the ticket, up the ticket. 0.95

00:55:33.000 All over the ticket.

00:55:35.000 Yeah, so what's it going to be?

00:55:37.000 A chicken tikka masala or a butter chicken?

00:55:39.000 Criticize him for days on end.

00:55:41.000 Doesn't seem like the best way to handle it.

00:55:44.000 Also, it's a little bit late.

00:55:45.000 It's not like he can be replaced.

00:55:46.000 Early voting's already underway.

00:55:48.000 So Democrats are kind of stuck with him.

00:55:50.000 So um they're just gonna probably hope he doesn't pull the rest of the ticket down.

00:55:55.000 All right, come back.

00:55:56.000 Of course, it's just time that's a good one.

00:55:56.000 We'll see if he actually does the rest of the no, they they really can't.

00:55:59.000 They're like, oh, these are this is really bad.

00:56:01.000 Yeah.

00:56:02.000 Yeah, he probably ought to drop out, but he can't because uh he's still on the ballot.

00:56:06.000 If he wins still with this kind of stuff out there, it's like, well, we just you know, we I think at this point we Yosemite Sam Virginia and just push it out into the sea and keep whatever we need to from it.

00:56:14.000 I think there's some.

00:56:15.000 Is that where Eusemity Sam?

00:56:17.000 I think so.

00:56:17.000 I think you misunderstand uh how to do it.

00:56:20.000 Mr. Sam operates.

00:56:22.000 No, I know it's in Virginia, trust me.

00:56:23.000 I was that's why I was like, and we keep the stuff we need.

00:56:25.000 So we'll we'll we'll put some outlines around that.

00:56:27.000 He was hunting a wabbit.

00:56:28.000 Right?

00:56:29.000 No, those are the things.

00:56:29.000 Yeah, no, no, Cornelius, my what's the I'm well?

00:56:34.000 Yeah, I know.

00:56:35.000 Anyway, this is more like a thing.

00:56:39.000 If you don't pray really hard for Steven to be well, you're gonna have to see me again tomorrow.

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