Louder with Crowder - 🔴 Did You Vote for This: Why The Podcast Bros are Turning on Trump 2025-10-07 18:14

00:00:00.000 They could have potentially won having picked Shapiro.

00:00:02.000 I mean, there was a lot of people saying that that may have swung Pennsylvania, and that would have made it really hard for President Trump to win, and they won't make the obvious good decision, but they'll make the...

00:00:10.000 Well, I know that this will buy me some votes in a community that I want to vote for me.

00:00:13.000 It's not going to give me California.

00:00:15.000 I'm already getting that.

00:00:16.000 Go back to Barack Obama.

00:00:17.000 Look, he he picked Joe Biden as his MP.

00:00:20.000 They pick weak VP candidates.

00:00:22.000 Yeah. 0.67

00:00:22.000 That is and he picked Joe Biden because he was kind of racist. 0.67

00:00:25.000 Yeah.

00:00:25.000 That's why he picked him.

00:00:27.000 You know the first uh articulate young black guy.

00:00:29.000 Clean cut.

00:00:29.000 Clean.

00:00:30.000 Is clean articulate?

00:00:31.000 And Brockman was like, uh that's the guy I'll pick up my ticket.

00:00:34.000 He talks to country folk like that. 0.93

00:00:36.000 I know there are still some racist blue dog Democrats. 0.90

00:00:38.000 They'll vote for Joe. 0.98

00:00:40.000 Picked him.

00:00:40.000 And then Joe picked Kamala Harris.

00:00:42.000 He's like, she likes to have a drink.

00:00:44.000 You remember when that was it?

00:00:45.000 That was a qualification.

00:00:46.000 Obama came back to the White House and completely ignored Joe Biden when he's like, Bruh.

00:00:51.000 Bruh.

00:00:52.000 And he's just over here shaking hands with people.

00:00:54.000 He's like hitting them on the shoulder and nobody's paying attention to the president.

00:00:57.000 It was so bad.

00:00:58.000 It was sad.

00:00:59.000 It was sad.

00:00:59.000 When people say, you know, we're remember when the left was trying to sell us that we're respected on the world stage again with Joe Biden.

00:01:04.000 It's like, come on. 0.99

00:01:05.000 I don't even know what's going on with Carney right now, but I guarantee you that Donald Trump's bitch slapped him a time or two. 0.99

00:01:10.000 Just since they've been together. 0.99

00:01:12.000 Oh, that's fine.

00:01:13.000 I didn't know that I didn't know that was going on this morning.

00:01:14.000 Look at his eyes.

00:01:15.000 He's not happy.

00:01:18.000 And uh again, we'll wanted him to do great.

00:01:21.000 Yeah.

00:01:22.000 But you know, there's a point at which we also want the same business.

00:01:26.000 We're competing for the same business.

00:01:28.000 That's the problem.

00:01:29.000 That's why I keep mentioning one way to solve that problem is a very easy way.

00:01:33.000 But we're competing for the same business.

00:01:36.000 He wants to make cars, we want to make cars.

00:01:38.000 And we're in competition.

00:01:40.000 And the advantage we have is we have this massive market.

00:01:43.000 So it's a you know, it's quite an advantage.

00:01:48.000 Oh, I must be safe.

00:01:50.000 I've never heard that.

00:01:53.000 Mr. President, can we talk about Portland for a second?

00:01:55.000 Are you planning to invoke the insurrection?

00:01:58.000 And that would be uh you know, a very uh long standing war of law that's been on the book.

00:02:04.000 Yeah, well, it's been invoked before, as you know.

00:02:07.000 Uh if you look at Chicago, Chicago is a great city where there's a lot of crime.

00:02:11.000 And if the governor can't do the job, we'll do the job.

00:02:14.000 It's all very simple.

00:02:16.000 Uh they lose they probably had fifty murders in Chicago over the last uh five, six, seven months.

00:02:24.000 Uh many people were shot.

00:02:26.000 And then the governor gets up and he says, Well, we can handle it.

00:02:29.000 They can't handle it.

00:02:30.000 They don't know what they're doing. 0.99

00:02:31.000 The mayor is grossly incompetent.

00:02:33.000 He's at a four percent approval rating in Chicago.

00:02:36.000 He's at a four percent lowest approval rating, lower than even de Blasio had, which is hard to believe in New York.

00:02:42.000 I thought De Blasio would always maintain that record, but the Chicago guys are low.

00:02:47.000 So I think that's a good thing.

00:02:49.000 So petty uh we want safe cities. 0.98

00:02:52.000 If you look at DC, you would right now, Mark, you could go out, take your family out to dinner, you could walk right down the middle of the street.

00:03:00.000 There is no crime in DC.

00:03:03.000 Uh when I got here, this place was a raging hellhole.

00:03:08.000 People would come from Canada, people would come from other places.

00:03:14.000 Difference the national guards make unbelievable.

00:03:17.000 Oh hot, hot, hot they are strong, tough guys.

00:03:20.000 You know, we won something at the Supreme Court, which is a big deal.

00:03:24.000 Merit.

00:03:24.000 Everything now in this country is merit-based.

00:03:27.000 I didn't think I'd ever see it again.

00:03:29.000 And we have our soldiers and merit base too.

00:03:32.000 And they're central casting, and they walk through that town, and I'll tell you what, this place is safe.

00:03:37.000 It's beautiful.

00:03:38.000 Mark, we'll send them to you.

00:03:38.000 We'll walk through your towns.

00:03:41.000 I think the question was about Portland.

00:03:42.000 Yes.

00:03:42.000 It was.

00:03:45.000 And we're removing many people in uh DC.

00:03:48.000 We we took out seventeen one thousand seven hundred career criminals and sent them back to the countries from which they came, mostly led out by Biden and his people that had open border and open border policy.

00:04:02.000 And you know, Canada suffered because of that too, because they'd come here and they'd go into Canada also. 0.99

00:04:09.000 So we're like a buffer for that in terms of they it's Canada suffered greatly by Biden and the open border, the policy of open border, totally unchecked, totally unvetted.

00:04:20.000 And these people were someone bring up that clip where Carney said he was gonna go and deal with Trump the way you deal with bullies, I think was something that he said.

00:04:27.000 Yeah, he's really dealing with the city.

00:04:29.000 Up Canada.

00:04:30.000 And now now he's just like, yeah, no, well, I guess it's a good point, Donald Trump.

00:04:33.000 Whatever you say.

00:04:34.000 Yeah.

00:04:34.000 Yes, sir.

00:04:36.000 For four months.

00:04:37.000 I don't even know if this is possible, but they this is the the figures were released.

00:04:41.000 Zero people were able to come into the United States from the southern border.

00:04:45.000 Zero.

00:04:46.000 And as you know, we've we've taken a very hard stand on drugs.

00:04:49.000 This is the same thing.

00:04:50.000 This is one question.

00:04:51.000 It was about Port Portland.

00:04:54.000 Let's talk about El Chapo.

00:04:56.000 Owen Chapo area.

00:04:59.000 Frankly, there are no fishing boats.

00:05:00.000 There's no boats out there, period.

00:05:02.000 If you want to know the truth, we'll say, does anybody go fishing anymore?

00:05:10.000 So Canadian lives. 1.00

00:05:14.000 I like it.

00:05:15.000 I'm more of a salmon guy, though.

00:05:18.000 And now they don't come in that way anymore.

00:05:20.000 Now they'll come in other ways, and we're not going to allow that either.

00:05:23.000 Next question.

00:05:24.000 So we've done we've done a great job.

00:05:26.000 I've said Portland.

00:05:27.000 But uh on crime, Chicago is a great city, but you can't be a great city if you have murders and if you have a lot of problems.

00:05:35.000 And they do.

00:05:36.000 And they have an incompetent policy, just like they had open border policy.

00:05:40.000 Anyone could come in.

00:05:41.000 They came in from prisons, they came in from mental institutions, drug dealership.

00:05:48.000 We don't have that anymore.

00:05:50.000 This country is becoming very we're a very strong country.

00:05:54.000 Look, financially speaking, I would say that because of the tariffs, because of the election, because of the policy, because of the great big beautiful deal.

00:06:02.000 That's what I added the word great.

00:06:04.000 I imagine trying to get off the phone with them is hard.

00:06:06.000 It's the biggest bill ever passed in the history of our country.

00:06:10.000 We don't need it.

00:06:12.000 Take care of my mom.

00:06:13.000 She's in hospice.

00:06:14.000 Your mom's great.

00:06:15.000 Look, funny story about your mom. 0.99

00:06:16.000 When I was young, what your mom's the best sugar cookies. 1.00

00:06:20.000 I don't even like sugar cookies because all it is is is just sugar.

00:06:24.000 There's no chocolate chips.

00:06:25.000 There's no but she would do something special.

00:06:28.000 I don't know what she did.

00:06:29.000 Those cookies were special.

00:06:30.000 Your mom's a very special lady.

00:06:31.000 Okay, I got I gotta go.

00:06:32.000 One night under the moonlight in a full cornfield, your mom and I look, I probably shouldn't be saying this, but we're allowed our passion to get the better of us that night on Iowa.

00:06:44.000 I'll tell her you said hi, but uh I gotta go.

00:06:46.000 It was a straw pole.

00:06:48.000 She climbed my pole. 1.00

00:06:52.000 Like she was sucking through a straw. 0.99

00:06:53.000 Your mom was Wow. 0.84

00:06:56.000 You'd never know.

00:06:56.000 He's still going, dude.

00:06:57.000 He's still going.

00:06:59.000 The point is I'm your father.

00:07:02.000 Isn't that right, Carney?

00:07:05.000 Okay.

00:07:05.000 Let's just see how he hasn't let's see how long he goes.

00:07:08.000 It's gotta be what?

00:07:09.000 Three minutes now?

00:07:10.000 At least.

00:07:10.000 Uh that's a big reason why the companies are coming in.

00:07:13.000 You know, one year depreciation, one year write-off, one year expensive.

00:07:17.000 Nobody's ever seen anything like it.

00:07:19.000 So they're so they're coming in.

00:07:24.000 Uh uh to have a great country, you can't have crime.

00:07:28.000 And we don't have crime, but we have cities where there's tremendous crime.

00:07:32.000 And Chicago.

00:07:33.000 And you know what I think?

00:07:34.000 I think Donald Trump feels he has license to do this because Joe Biden didn't answer questions, and he would hand out the questions pre- Okay, let's hear.

00:07:41.000 He's done.

00:07:41.000 A question, a question, a question for the president.

00:07:47.000 I'd like to know how come the UK and the European Union succeeded to sign deals and bring the tax down, and Canada still hasn't been able to do the same.

00:07:56.000 Yeah, because they're not located right next to each other.

00:07:59.000 You know, it makes it uh in many cases it's much better and easier.

00:08:05.000 If I may.

00:08:06.000 You may not relate as it says right now.

00:08:09.000 We are the second largest trading partner of the United States.

00:08:12.000 We do a lot of trade going across the border where we're cooperating, first thing.

00:08:16.000 Secondly, we are the largest foreign investor in the United States.

00:08:20.000 Half a trillion, Trump is going to usurp him at some point.

00:08:22.000 Yes.

00:08:24.000 Because of how many years if we get uh the agreement that we expect to get.

00:08:29.000 Thirdly, there are areas as the president just said.

00:08:31.000 Well, expect in one hand.

00:08:33.000 Conflict, maybe not so much conflict.

00:08:35.000 We compete.

00:08:35.000 There are areas where we compete, and it's in those areas where we have to come to uh an agreement that works.

00:08:42.000 But there are more areas where we are stronger together, and that's what we're focused on.

00:08:47.000 And we're gonna get the right deal.

00:08:48.000 Right deal for America, right deal, obviously for my perspective for Canada.

00:08:53.000 Not going to be held in some.

00:08:54.000 Okay.

00:08:55.000 Is it just me or is there a lot more gold in that office than there used to be?

00:08:58.000 It is a lot.

00:08:59.000 He did, he put a lot more gold in.

00:09:01.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:09:02.000 So one thing where we are working very closely is the Golden Dome.

00:09:07.000 That's the protective mechanism, and you see how that works.

00:09:11.000 It's unbelievable.

00:09:12.000 The uh you know, Ronald Reagan wanted to have it, and at that time they didn't have the technology, it even close to the technology, but he was he was advanced uh and we'll be working together on a golden dome for the two countries, and uh it's something that I think is going to be very important.

00:09:28.000 Especially when you look at the world, you look at what's happening.

00:09:31.000 We want to have we want to have that protection.

00:09:33.000 It's really amazing.

00:09:34.000 The technology is unbelievable.

00:09:41.000 Why do you say some federal workers should not get their back pay?

00:09:44.000 Why do you say some?

00:09:45.000 Well, you're gonna have to figure that out.

00:09:46.000 Okay.

00:09:47.000 Ask ask the Democrats that question.

00:09:51.000 Mr. President, just to follow up there.

00:09:53.000 I mean, the law says that when the government is reopens that workers will receive their their backpaper law there, or what do you think?

00:10:00.000 I follow the law, and I what the law says is correct, and I follow the law.

00:10:08.000 Mr. President, will Canada be leaving empty-handed, or will Canada be leaving or will Mr. Carney be leaving Washington with a deal on terror?

00:10:15.000 I think they're gonna be very happy.

00:10:16.000 We have a lot of things that we're working on that uh people don't talk about.

00:10:20.000 They talk about uh uh you know competitiveness.

00:10:25.000 She's a very competitive person.

00:10:27.000 And uh they talk about things that we don't necessarily agree on, but I think they're gonna walk away very happy.

00:10:34.000 I think so.

00:10:38.000 You see him take a sigh of relief, Carney's like minimum tariff that countries have got.

00:10:44.000 When U.S. MCA gets renegotiated, you want a minimum tariff on goods between Canada and the U.S. Well, we're gonna have tariffs, Mr. Carney.

00:10:53.000 You know, they have them with us.

00:10:54.000 Uh I will say with our farmers, as you know, they they went up to as much as 400 percent, 250, 300, and even one at 401, we found one having to do with a very small product.

00:11:05.000 But it was it was high.

00:11:07.000 But you've got to be able to do that.

00:11:07.000 So we've had so you know we've always had tariffs between the two.

00:11:10.000 Shut up, loser. 0.97

00:11:11.000 Actually, uh Canada was charging us very high tariffs on our agricultural things, a lot of our agricultural product. 0.99

00:11:18.000 And that's one of the things that we talk about for bringing that down.

00:11:21.000 So, you know, this is a mutual thing, but uh we've been charged uh tariffs.

00:11:25.000 Look, we're the king of being screwed by tariffs, just say you understand.

00:11:29.000 And I'm not talking about with Canada, I'm talking about with countries all over the world.

00:11:33.000 When you look at Europe, when you look at China, when you look at uh all of the uh uh any almost every country charge the U.S., we didn't charge them. 1.00

00:11:44.000 Because we were led by stupid people in many cases. 1.00

00:11:47.000 Stupid people that took advantage of our country. 1.00

00:11:50.000 They're not taking advantage of us anymore. 1.00

00:11:52.000 You know, if you looked at European Union, they're all my friends.

00:11:55.000 I don't blame them, I blame our presidents.

00:11:57.000 I b blame our past presidents and you know business leaders.

00:12:02.000 But uh we are the the the uh king of countries that have been taken advantage of for many, many years.

00:12:10.000 That's very true.

00:12:11.000 I do really appreciate that he's drawn attention to the fact that the United States has, in the name of diplomacy, put our interests on the back burner.

00:12:17.000 Yes.

00:12:18.000 And he is less interested in going to cocktail parties, probably because he doesn't drink uh with these other world leaders than he is in getting a good deal for Americans.

00:12:26.000 And the truth is this is all it's it's it's all a mirage.

00:12:28.000 If we want Canada, we could take Canada.

00:12:30.000 But this idea of international governing bodies and globalism, it's like, well, okay, well it's better.

00:12:35.000 Well, let's just let's just all hold hands and we are the world.

00:12:38.000 Okay, great.

00:12:38.000 But the truth is if we decided to use our leverage, Canada as part of the United States.

00:12:43.000 The European Union really wouldn't be able to sustain themselves.

00:12:45.000 And we're just saying, hey, all right, if you want to be our allies and actually be our allies.

00:12:49.000 Otherwise, we can be entirely nationalistic and keep it within our borders.

00:12:53.000 Or if you want to take part, if you want to engage in trade, do it fairly.

00:12:57.000 We've allowed ourselves to be fleeced.

00:12:58.000 And real reason for that, if you just look at the tariffs, for example, with Canada and dairy, it would render their dairy industry irrelevant.

00:13:05.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:13:06.000 I I think it's really interesting, too.

00:13:08.000 And I all the people who are anti-war and anti-what America maybe has done meddling-wise around the world over the last 50, 60, 70 years.

00:13:15.000 They should love this, because essentially what he's doing is saying, you know, instead of using the CIA and that money to kind of influence these other countries over here, and instead of using our military to go to war in all these different places, I'm just gonna use our economy.

00:13:26.000 Yeah.

00:13:26.000 And I'm gonna I'm gonna end all the foreign war stuff that I can.

00:13:28.000 We're gonna go after cartels because they're hurting American citizens. 0.94

00:13:31.000 We're gonna close our border, take care of American citizens. 1.00

00:13:33.000 And we're gonna make sure that American businesses are not getting screwed and consumers not getting screwed by people overseas.

00:13:38.000 I'm like, I think that that is much preferable to the wars that Dave Smith rails about and also the CIA involvement in just about every corner of the globe.

00:13:46.000 I agree.

00:13:47.000 Let's grab a few chats and then I'm going to go um throw up.

00:13:50.000 Yes.

00:13:51.000 They did uh if if you want it, they did send in that Carney clip.

00:13:54.000 Oh, of him talking about let's let's see if it's reflected uh right here.

00:13:57.000 So this is him now, but let's go back to then how Carney said he would deal with President Trump.

00:14:02.000 President Trump.

00:14:04.000 President Trump thinks Canada will cave in.

00:14:09.000 We will never ever bow down to a bully.

00:14:16.000 Unless it's our own king.

00:14:19.000 Canadians Canadians will always stick together.

00:14:24.000 Except Alberta.

00:14:25.000 I would just love right now if you kiss the ring.

00:14:27.000 What do you think?

00:14:28.000 So Mark, do you still think I'm a bully?

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 Do you feel like you're caving in, Mark?

00:14:35.000 Do you feel in control?

00:14:38.000 This guy's a rube.

00:14:39.000 All right, let's grab a couple of chats.

00:14:41.000 All right.

00:14:41.000 First chat from Newcastle, 777.

00:14:44.000 Question for crew.

00:14:45.000 Do you think the elevated expectations of some Americans have tarnished their view of Trump because he hasn't delivered on those excessively heightened expectations?

00:14:53.000 Um I do think this.

00:14:54.000 I think that a lot again of the of the Johnny come lately is because they haven't paid attention and they haven't thought of the world at all.

00:15:02.000 What?

00:15:02.000 Why did that's since people like the Andrew Change?

00:15:07.000 People like the Andrew Schultz, people like the Theo Vaughns, people like a lot of these shows.

00:15:10.000 And to some degree, Joe Rogan, they haven't really thought of the world through the lens of, okay, what's right?

00:15:14.000 W what is uh our history?

00:15:16.000 What is patriotism?

00:15:17.000 Where does America stand in the world?

00:15:19.000 What makes us different?

00:15:20.000 And they haven't paid attention to elections.

00:15:22.000 I think this this is the first time they sort of toss their hat in the ring.

00:15:25.000 And it's kind of a teenager's point of view, where it's like, well, I didn't get every single thing that was on the on the wish list, so oh uh undelivered promises.

00:15:32.000 Whereas if you compare it to even Barack Obama to the left, if you compare it to George W. Bush to the right, if you compare it to Joe Biden to the left, like he's delivered in a way that no other modern president has.

00:15:42.000 So I think Yeah, it's uh it's it's a little of that, but I also think that the people you're hearing from with these platforms are people who decided to kind of get in on a trend that was worth quite a few clicks during the election, and they don't really know how these things work.

00:15:54.000 And that's not to let someone off the hook if they uh deliver nothing but empty promises, but I would say that that is l that is least descriptive of the Trump administration uh in comparison to any other administration in my recent memory.

00:16:08.000 It is funny to see some people, you know, uh give the criticisms of he doesn't promise on everything, uh, because Russia-Ukraine is still happening and Israel-Gaza is still happening.

00:16:16.000 And it's like, yeah, uh that he did promise that within a hundred days or whatever it was.

00:16:21.000 And we all kind of thought that was unrealistic.

00:16:24.000 If he had done it, wow, what an amazing thing.

00:16:26.000 But unrealistic expectations.

00:16:28.000 It's still in his first year, and they're they're taking these these couple things and making it a big deal, which is funny to me because in their mind they're saying he is capable of it.

00:16:39.000 Right.

00:16:39.000 He could have done it, but he didn't do it.

00:16:41.000 Right.

00:16:42.000 Because you had to sit there in the same chair and admit that all these other conflicts have been solved.

00:16:46.000 Yeah.

00:16:46.000 Or cease-fired or or you know, whatever peace deals made.

00:16:51.000 And again, what's the alternative?

00:16:52.000 You of course would have continued uh uh Ukraine, Russia.

00:16:55.000 I don't know about m Israel guy.

00:16:57.000 It probably would have been the same thing.

00:16:58.000 They just would have been delivering a little bit different rhetoric, and you would have a record number of illegal immigrants still pouring into this nation.

00:17:04.000 You would still have uh, you know, Coca-Cola on snap, and you would still have USAID and you would still have NGOs, and you would still have Antifa and you would still have mass illegal immigrants causing chaos in these sanctuary cities. 0.90

00:17:16.000 So again, you have to compare it to the alternative and go, okay, are the results better?

00:17:19.000 Yes.

00:17:20.000 And then you have to compare the delivery on his promises in comparison to other administrations.

00:17:24.000 I don't even think it's close.

00:17:25.000 Would we have boots on the ground?

00:17:26.000 If there's another administration, would we have boots on the ground in Ukraine?

00:17:29.000 Right.

00:17:29.000 Would be would be would we be sending money and weapons to either India or Pakistan?

00:17:35.000 Right.

00:17:35.000 Would we be involved in some kind of Cambodian conflict?

00:17:39.000 Right.

00:17:39.000 How many of these other conflicts would be be involved in?

00:17:42.000 Israel would be a day. 1.00

00:17:45.000 Yeah.

00:17:46.000 And I can't think of any president who is more anti-people dying in foreign uh affairs than Donald Trump, honestly.

00:17:51.000 You have to give him that.

00:17:52.000 Whether he can wave a magic wand and end all conflicts, no one has ever been able to do that.

00:17:56.000 But I I I've been uh I've I've been really pretty uh pretty happy with what we've gotten, and I I expect a lot more to come in the next three years.

00:18:04.000 Next chat.

00:18:04.000 All right, next chat from Luz Cannon.

00:18:07.000 I'm pretty anti-government on most things.

00:18:09.000 How would you square being anti-government but also supporting the feds with all the attacks from the left towards ICE and reporters slash MAGA?

00:18:16.000 What do you mean supporting the feds?

00:18:19.000 ICE.

00:18:19.000 Supporting ICE.

00:18:20.000 And they're getting attacked in Chicago and they tell them not to go help when they tell the police not to go help them.

00:18:26.000 Well, let me read that again.

00:18:27.000 You're saying being anti-government but supporting the feds with all you're saying I should support ICE?

00:18:32.000 No, I think you're saying support the left attacking ICE.

00:18:34.000 I mean, I think you're saying how do you how do you grapple with being anti-government and then uh being pro-ICE?

00:18:39.000 Trevor Burrus, Jr.

00:18:39.000 Well, I think this is also this is kind of a misconception.

00:18:42.000 Um conservatives, and this is the difference between us and libertarians, we are not anti-government.

00:18:46.000 We are not anarchists.

00:18:47.000 We believe in a in a legitimate purview of government that is limited.

00:18:52.000 And I've said this going back to 2008, 2009, I've used the analogy of a hockey referee.

00:18:57.000 And I use it just because, you know, okay, Canadian, but it's also the only sport where this is the case.

00:19:00.000 A hockey referee, their job is to keep the pace, the flow of the game, make sure that the players are safe, meaning us as citizens.

00:19:06.000 Uh, and outside of that, keep their whistle in their pocket.

00:19:09.000 So national defense, safety, right, borders would fall under the legitimate purview of government.

00:19:14.000 That's one of the few legitimate roles of government.

00:19:16.000 A military, some kind of enforcement arm to make sure that the lawless don't basically exploit the lawful.

00:19:23.000 And uh in that case, when you're dealing with sanctuary cities, and having dealt with Antifa and these people and these left-wing radical groups.

00:19:32.000 And I don't even mean radical in their viewpoint, I mean radical in their execution because they're they're simply mirroring the viewpoints of the mainstream left.

00:19:38.000 They're just more violent than those who would, you know, get up on a dais.

00:19:41.000 Uh they're also funded in a lot of ways.

00:19:43.000 They're also funded by NGOs.

00:19:45.000 They're also funded by a lot of government wings.

00:19:46.000 So at that point, uh what do you want?

00:19:48.000 Do you want the lawless and the people who advocate for open borders?

00:19:51.000 You want them to have uh them to enjoy an open season on people who are here to enforce the law so they protect you?

00:19:57.000 I don't think there's anything that's uh inconsistent with conservatism and supporting ICE deporting people who shouldn't be here to begin with.

00:20:06.000 They already broke the law, they have no business being here.

00:20:08.000 That is a legitimate role of government to deport people who have no business being here. 1.00

00:20:11.000 Trevor Burrus, Jr.

00:20:11.000 Exactly.

00:20:11.000 I understand where they're coming from.

00:20:13.000 Uh and uh the sentiment against you know, federal agencies like the FBI and the CIA and stuff like that.

00:20:18.000 But the difference between them and ICE is that ICE is not targeting American citizens.

00:20:22.000 Right.

00:20:23.000 They are targeting people that are not supposed to be here and getting them out.

00:20:25.000 That's a completely different purview from what the other three letter agencies are doing and the criticism that we give to them.

00:20:31.000 Now, the left understands that completely, and that's why the left will go out and say a Maryland man or a father from Illinois or an innocent student from Georgia.

00:20:40.000 Like they they'll try to pull at that heart.

00:20:42.000 They're not they're not doing that for themselves and for their people on the left.

00:20:45.000 They're doing that for us, they're doing that for you, because they know that you have this distrust in your institutions in the three-letter agencies, and they think that's gonna bleed into the uh to the immigration sector because they're saying, oh, they're coming after Americans, or they're coming after innocent people, and that's not what they're doing.

00:21:01.000 Yeah.

00:21:01.000 So uh yeah, I understand where you're coming from, but it's a different different agency, different operations.

00:21:06.000 The IRS under Barack Obama was used to target conservative Americans, simply, right?

00:21:10.000 As a political tool.

00:21:11.000 Let's target conservative Americans.

00:21:13.000 Let's look at, for example, the FBI using the ADL.

00:21:15.000 They were too busy investigating Charlie Kirk and turning point USA to deal with actual domestic terror groups.

00:21:21.000 ICE is pretty clear in their purview in what they're supposed to deal with as far as immigration.

00:21:24.000 But I also would like to see our other government wings like the FBI like the CIA actually return to whatever intended purpose they have.

00:21:31.000 I do think it should be very limited.

00:21:33.000 Um but I think there's a very big difference between targeting American citizens of a political persuasion and targeting terrorists or illegal aliens.

00:21:40.000 Next chat.

00:21:41.000 All right, next chat from Damon Knight.

00:21:43.000 Question for the crew.

00:21:44.000 If the left continues to ruin their reputation slash image, do you see the U.S. effectively becoming single party?

00:21:50.000 Or are there enough radical leftists to keep them on life support?

00:21:52.000 Trevor Burrus, Jr. 0.99

00:21:52.000 No, it's gonna follow a cycle of whitewashing, and that's what I think you're starting to see with like I said, some of these Johnny come lately is they're gonna go back to oh actually, yeah, but I don't really like Donald Trump and conservatives are dumb and redneck. 0.99

00:22:03.000 You'll see that again, and they'll try and make it seem like the left is the party of intelligentsia, and they'll go back to you know the kind of George W. Bush mode of attack where oh they're stupid. 0.99

00:22:12.000 So um it oscillates back and forth. 0.98

00:22:14.000 I do think that the left has a problem, a demographic problem, which is good. 1.00

00:22:17.000 She's on the other foot for the first time with Gen Z men, and and that swung really hard and really fast. 1.00

00:22:24.000 I don't know how principled it is, so it remains to be seen.

00:22:26.000 Uh but uh yeah, I think I think it'll kind of go back and forth.

00:22:29.000 I think the the left will kind of course correct and they'll present themselves as more moderate, which is what they've done in the past, too.

00:22:35.000 That's my opinion.

00:22:37.000 Next chat.

00:22:38.000 All right.

00:22:38.000 Next chat from Remuglican Jake.

00:22:41.000 Oh, nice.

00:22:41.000 Yeah, nice.

00:22:42.000 Uh with this with the increased BS from Portland creating an order for locals to not allow ICE to use city property.

00:22:48.000 When do issues like the mayor meet legal distinction for insurrection?

00:22:52.000 Josh, thank you for your service.

00:22:54.000 Now answer this about Chicago.

00:22:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:56.000 But Chicago was a great city.

00:22:59.000 This is real life.

00:23:00.000 There's it's no family matters.

00:23:02.000 There's no Earth.

00:23:05.000 Not even Stefan.

00:23:07.000 He was very cool, Stephon.

00:23:08.000 Took a pill, became really cool.

00:23:10.000 Um I uh I think that uh in some of these cases it does meet the criteria for insurrection.

00:23:16.000 Yes.

00:23:17.000 I mean, honestly, when people try and say January 6th was an insurrection, uh okay, if you're gonna use that standard, how about an entire city?

00:23:23.000 Uh why wasn't that used for CHOP?

00:23:26.000 For Chess.

00:23:27.000 That was the actual definition of an insurrection, not allowing local police force, let alone some kind of National Guard to go in.

00:23:34.000 Not allow and and basically subjecting citizens who did not elect these people in Chaz, CHOP, Seattle, to the rule of their self created mob.

00:23:45.000 Yeah, I think a lot of these would meet the criteria for it.

00:23:47.000 I think so too.

00:23:48.000 I and I think specifically there's a difference between not going in for Chopper Chaz if you do the the calculation and say, okay, we need to like we need to handle this a different way because if we go in now they have somebody to fight and it's gonna make the situation even worse, even though I probably would have said go in.

00:24:01.000 When it's a city doing it, when it's a state doing it, no, I'm sorry.

00:24:06.000 All bets are off men.

00:24:07.000 You don't get to do that.

00:24:08.000 Right.

00:24:09.000 And I am all for states' rights.

00:24:10.000 States don't have the right to do this though.

00:24:12.000 No.

00:24:13.000 They can't do that to the citizens of the United States.

00:24:16.000 That's the reason that the government can say, listen, we have these rules federally.

00:24:20.000 Again, you're the person earlier, you're you're not a anti-government because anti-government, if you take that to the extreme, there is no government, and somebody else just kind of steps up and rules and and it whatever it happens anyway.

00:24:31.000 Fiefdoms occur.

00:24:32.000 You're anti-big government.

00:24:34.000 This is not one of those things.

00:24:35.000 This is one of those things that every American should say, listen, we can't have sanctuary cities.

00:24:39.000 We can't do that.

00:24:39.000 That this is one of the government.

00:24:41.000 Can't do it.

00:24:41.000 And that's the problem too.

00:24:42.000 When you go so far like the libertarian right where people would say it's so far, right?

00:24:45.000 That's that horseshoe effect.

00:24:46.000 They don't believe in borders at all.

00:24:47.000 A lot of libertarians.

00:24:48.000 They can't defend they can't defend borders.

00:24:51.000 If you're a libertarian, Dave Smith got caught flat footed on this.

00:24:54.000 You cannot defend having a border.

00:24:55.000 Right.

00:24:56.000 If you're truly a libertarian.

00:24:57.000 And that's why you need to have some nationalism.

00:24:59.000 Yeah.

00:24:59.000 You need to have some national.

00:25:00.000 Hey, our nation is different.

00:25:02.000 We we want our nation set apart from other nations. 0.94

00:25:04.000 And how do we well the first step in doing that is making sure that we have borders where we know who is in our nation who subscribes to the beliefs of this nation.

00:25:12.000 And that doesn't mean that we have to all follow lockstep, but yeah, no, we have a nation.

00:25:16.000 We have borders.

00:25:17.000 You have that everywhere else in a functioning society.

00:25:20.000 You have borders in your house by having a house.

00:25:23.000 You have borders with cities, you have borders with states, you have border you used to have borders with countries.

00:25:27.000 In this case, the only exception should be the wealthiest country in the world who's cre by the way, created the wealthiest country in the world where more people want to come than anywhere else on planet Earth, and we're not supposed to protect it.

00:25:39.000 The only reason we wouldn't protect it is because we're being brow beaten into it by some other international governing body because they want to get in on that action.

00:25:46.000 No.

00:25:47.000 We created this shining city on a hill, and it's our job to protect it and certainly to preserve it for the American citizens who helped build it into what it is.

00:25:54.000 Yeah.

00:25:55.000 That's it's it's that simple.

00:25:56.000 Final chat, because I'm gonna go purge.

00:25:59.000 All right.

00:25:59.000 Final chat from DP Coast.

00:26:02.000 Why is Trump all in on AI dev when he knows a vast majority of Americans will lose their jobs?

00:26:07.000 Isn't that counterproductive?

00:26:08.000 Stephen and crew be safe and God bless.

00:26:10.000 I I don't know this one.

00:26:12.000 This might not be the best uh chat.

00:26:13.000 But but uh but I have my issues with that.

00:26:15.000 I have a quick answer for it because it listen, I I understand that a lot of Americans will lose their job through tech technological shifts that have occurred historically.

00:26:23.000 It's it's happened before in very similar ways.

00:26:26.000 Obviously, AI seems to be one of those ways that could like drastically change versus some of the other ways that maybe like all right, horse and buggy to cars.

00:26:33.000 That changes things a little bit, right?

00:26:35.000 Um tellers and you know, uh instead of ATMs.

00:26:38.000 I get it.

00:26:38.000 There's a lot of stuff that is gonna change the market if we don't try to lead in this market or at least as much as we possibly can, somebody else will.

00:26:47.000 So you the the outcome will not be changed by our participation or not.

00:26:52.000 It's a good point.

00:26:52.000 It is a bit inevitable.

00:26:53.000 It's either us leading in it or somebody else leading in it.

00:26:56.000 And I would rather have us leading in it than somebody else.

00:26:58.000 Because everybody's gonna try.

00:27:00.000 Look at the money that's being spent right now in AI development and the engineers and the best in bright.

00:27:05.000 It is insane.

00:27:06.000 We've never seen anything like this before.

00:27:09.000 And I go go to any of the other technological advancements.

00:27:12.000 Nothing is like this.

00:27:13.000 Well, and I think that I think it needs to be married with some very, very strong regulations.

00:27:17.000 And again, this goes to being a conservative, not a libertarian.

00:27:20.000 Um, technology, uh what's its purpose?

00:27:24.000 Its purpose is to better the lives of to serve us.

00:27:27.000 Yeah, to serve us, the citizens of this country.

00:27:29.000 Yeah.

00:27:29.000 And so the regulations should exist to enhance the power uh of a tool like this that could it could either greatly enhance the quality of life for a lot of Americans or it could be incredibly detriment detrimental.

00:27:41.000 I don't know, I'm not an AI expert.

00:27:42.000 I know that people have been saying that there's going to be the AI apocalypse for many, many years now.

00:27:45.000 Some point.

00:27:46.000 Um so I think I need to be married with very strong regulations.

00:27:49.000 Uh if we're talking about being the leaders, you know, of the world, because China won't care about it.

00:27:53.000 And if we're the leaders, we can set those kinds of regulations globally, whereas China will never care about it.

00:27:58.000 They just do whatever they have to do.

00:27:59.000 Yeah.

00:28:00.000 Um that being said, I I always hear this about AI, and AI can help with a lot of things, but uh AI is often, in my experience, more often wrong than not when I ask it a question.

00:28:10.000 And that's often because of the programming, right?

00:28:12.000 It's only as good as its input.

00:28:13.000 And right now, I mean, you you can go and ask Rock something and you're like, well, that's a verifiably wrong answer.

00:28:17.000 Right, yeah.

00:28:18.000 So people have been saying this for a long time.

00:28:20.000 We're not quite there yet.

00:28:21.000 I agree with Gerald.

00:28:22.000 We do we don't want to be left behind, but I also think that if we want to be the leaders of this, if we want to be spearheading this, then we need to definitely think we need to we need to recenter our focus and go, okay.

00:28:33.000 Everything that comes in that we're looking at as far as some form of economic development or technological development.

00:28:38.000 How does this benefit the citizens of this country?

00:28:41.000 How does this benefit this country?

00:28:42.000 The only country left where people are actually free, and I know that that could that can be up for debate.

00:28:48.000 Okay.

00:28:48.000 But it's the freest country on earth, certainly compared to Europe.

00:28:51.000 How does it benefit us?

00:28:53.000 How does it improve our lives and the regulations should be married to it accordingly?

00:28:58.000 I don't think I and I do think when people say there's been rampant capitalism that's left uh unfettered, there have been problems with that.

00:29:04.000 The solution is not socialism.

00:29:07.000 The solution is to go, okay, how does this serve the best interests of the American people?

00:29:11.000 And I also think individually we need to marry these improvements and we need to marry these freedoms with our duties and responsibilities.

00:29:17.000 Cause I think something that's really kind of, kind of, kind of presented, um, not kind of a lot of problems as people going, Hey, I'm free.

00:29:25.000 Okay, great.

00:29:26.000 But a free society can really only work for a a just and moral people.

00:29:30.000 We know that from the founding fathers.

00:29:32.000 And I think considering the godlessness the godlessness, not only that we have now, but how how touched we are by the godlessness of the world in comparison through social media and being able to communicate with anyone in the world at any given time.

00:29:45.000 We need to recenter ourselves a little bit and go, okay, who what is it what is it that we're looking to achieve and who are we as a nation?

00:29:54.000 And that'll determine how we chart a course for it.

00:29:56.000 I don't have all of the answers on AI because frankly I don't understand it, and it's usually wrong and it just pisses me off.

00:30:00.000 So I do things old school.

00:30:02.000 But we do need to marry our freedom here with responsibilities and with duties.

00:30:08.000 And as far as culturally, I hope to see a little bit more of that messaging coming forward because otherwise you just end up with a bunch of people who have an extra couple of Lambos and servants going, Hey, I made it, go get yours, and that doesn't benefit anyone.

00:30:20.000 I don't know if any of that made sense, but I have a fever right now, I'm gonna go purge.

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