Louder with Crowder - November 25, 2025


🔴Donald Vs. Ilhan: Trump Boots Somalis and The Meltdown is Glorious 2025-11-25 18:06


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 11 minutes

Words per Minute

206.99652

Word Count

14,852

Sentence Count

1,258

Misogynist Sentences

104

Hate Speech Sentences

91


Summary

Democrat Afton Ben Ollie is running for a U.S. House of Representatives seat in Tennessee's 7th congressional district, and she's running on a platform that involves women not being able to have kids.


Transcript

00:00:59.000 All right, so we do have a developing story right now.
00:01:02.000 Apparently, there was a big, like a big audio.
00:01:05.000 Tell us, Mr. Bench's 315 with poor form accidentally.
00:01:12.000 You see those things for those bumper plates, you bitch.
00:01:17.000 Those are wheels.
00:01:19.000 You idiots, use them.
00:01:20.000 I'm not familiar.
00:01:22.000 I know.
00:01:25.000 You know who's not familiar with the fact that things can be recorded?
00:01:28.000 Ollie, the Democrat running for the seat in Tennessee 7.
00:01:32.000 There's a special election coming up on December 2nd.
00:01:35.000 And she looks like and speaks like every caricature of a white suburban Democrat has ever spoken on just about every issue.
00:01:43.000 So whether it's on men being able to have babies or hating the police or hating the city, she's running it.
00:01:50.000 By the way, this is the District Trump 1 plus 22.
00:01:52.000 They're just trying to get it close so that they can see, say, hey, we're starting to make some inroads.
00:01:56.000 The left wants to try to get away from it.
00:01:57.000 Exactly.
00:01:57.000 So this is OPPO research.
00:01:59.000 There's been an oppo dump that's happening right now that we thought would be interesting to pull in some of the audio.
00:02:03.000 So let's just hear what she's got to say.
00:02:06.000 Afton Ben.
00:02:07.000 Afton.
00:02:08.000 My therapist always asks me to transcribe my dreams when they happen.
00:02:14.000 Me too.
00:02:15.000 And the recurring dream I've had is standing up in a cafeteria full of women.
00:02:21.000 I don't know why I was there or what happened.
00:02:24.000 I don't want children.
00:02:25.000 I want power.
00:02:26.000 And just screaming it at the top of my lungs.
00:02:30.000 And for someone who grew up with my mother telling me, never have kids because people will, you know, you'll have to give up a lot.
00:02:38.000 You'll have to sacrifice professionally.
00:02:40.000 She loved you.
00:02:41.000 She loved you.
00:02:42.000 You know, you.
00:02:45.000 Where I am now with seeing the consequences and the ramifications of women having kids and being in the political field and what they're able to achieve.
00:02:53.000 Being a kid.
00:02:54.000 Because we don't offer, you know, it's like the political field hasn't met the challenge of working moms.
00:02:59.000 They really haven't.
00:03:00.000 Stay on.
00:03:01.000 So the deeply patriarchal structures that these women are involved with because they've chosen marriage and they've chosen to raise children.
00:03:13.000 And I think in the South, it's incredibly difficult to shake those, especially if you've grown up here and that's all you've been told is the definition of success.
00:03:23.000 The metric of success is how many kids you have, the bigger, the square footage of your house.
00:03:29.000 Yeah.
00:03:30.000 And where your kids go to school.
00:03:32.000 Yeah.
00:03:32.000 So let me just, and again, I'm receiving this sort of live as it comes in and it's breaking.
00:03:37.000 What's most telling to me is, did you listen to her?
00:03:40.000 Let's just sort of track with her.
00:03:42.000 She identifies a problem and then a solution.
00:03:45.000 Okay, so what is she saying?
00:03:47.000 This is Tennessee 77, yeah.
00:03:49.000 Run through Nashville.
00:03:50.000 What's her name?
00:03:51.000 Afton Ben.
00:03:52.000 Afton Ben.
00:03:53.000 The problem is women having children.
00:03:56.000 She identifies that as the problem, right?
00:03:58.000 The problem with women, she actually said those words, I believe, women having children.
00:04:02.000 And the solution is to send women to groom them, to put them on the path into politics so that they're less likely to have children.
00:04:12.000 Are you starting to get the picture?
00:04:15.000 It started with the soft feminism of, hey, you just need the choice to go into the workforce, which, by the way, there was a huge push from very wealthy people who owned corporations.
00:04:26.000 You can go back to the Rockefellers.
00:04:27.000 And Rachel Wilson has actually written about this quite a bit because they wanted to get everyone into the labor force so they could have cheaper labor, right?
00:04:33.000 And there were campaigns, have a little bit of spending money for yourself.
00:04:36.000 Now it's not a choice, it's a problem.
00:04:40.000 She is, even though she'll be furious if you make a moral judgment, she just made the moral judgment that having children is the primary problem of Western American society.
00:04:50.000 And the solution is to thrust more women into the workforce and politics.
00:04:56.000 And think about that.
00:04:57.000 Who would be less capable of representing a constituency than a woman who thinks that having children is a problem?
00:05:07.000 What that means is that she needs to build enough, as she just said, we need to change the metrics for success that women consider success.
00:05:14.000 She needs to create, hopefully, eventually, a constituency of other childless women.
00:05:21.000 That's their goal.
00:05:23.000 Patriarchy is what we need.
00:05:25.000 Why?
00:05:26.000 Why did she say patriarchy is a problem?
00:05:28.000 Because it's measured the success of women by how they raise their family, how many children they have, how well adjusted they are.
00:05:35.000 So she condemns patriarchy because she knows that's the byproduct.
00:05:39.000 That's why when I say we need a little more patriarchy, I'm saying the same thing they are.
00:05:43.000 They just have a problem with families, nuclear families and children.
00:05:48.000 Yeah.
00:05:48.000 By the way, just imagine this, like at the end of your life, you know, when we're looking at the ledger of what you've accomplished, they're saying raising, creating life, raising the next generation, supporting the flourishing of society, something that only women can do, is not as good as shuffling widgets and middle management for 40 years.
00:06:12.000 Right.
00:06:14.000 How in the world, you cannot, I'm sorry, you cannot accomplish anything in your life that will be more beneficial to you and society than having kids, if you can have kids.
00:06:27.000 And here's the thing.
00:06:28.000 There's nothing you can put on the ledger that equals than raising quality citizens.
00:06:31.000 None.
00:06:32.000 And here's the thing.
00:06:32.000 It's also very clearly anti-God.
00:06:35.000 And this is why we have a problem with feminism in the Christian church, because if you look at your church, okay, look at all the women there, statistically, more of them are likely to vote Democrat than if you walk out of your church and look at a group of atheist men.
00:06:47.000 At best, it's a wash.
00:06:49.000 Now, you might get some men who claim to be Christians who occasionally vote for a Democrat because they're ill-informed.
00:06:56.000 But I don't know any men who say, I'm a Christian, but I think we need to do away with the nuclear family.
00:07:01.000 And I think that it's a problem that women are having kids and abortion should be free and taxpayer funded.
00:07:07.000 No, no, you'll find men who claim to be Christians who find ways to sort of justify things and twist them a little bit to fit their narrative.
00:07:15.000 But women will vote Democrat knowing full well that it is the party of women like this who say it's a problem to have children.
00:07:24.000 What does the Bible say when we talk about male-female roles?
00:07:27.000 Be fruitful and multiply.
00:07:29.000 You're supposed to have kids.
00:07:30.000 You're supposed to mother.
00:07:32.000 Nope, they hate, that's a problem.
00:07:33.000 You're supposed to submit to your husband.
00:07:35.000 You're supposed to submit to the authority of men.
00:07:37.000 You are not to wield any authority over men.
00:07:40.000 They hate every single one of God's prescriptions, and far too many self-professed female Christians vote for them.
00:07:49.000 There's no coming back.
00:07:50.000 There's no coming back from this for women.
00:07:52.000 You're seeing even the divide with Gen Z. There's always been a divide where men vote more conservative, women vote more left.
00:07:59.000 Women tend to veer more conservative once they have the problem, children and families, but it's still not close to men.
00:08:06.000 And you're seeing that it's a chasm between Gen Z males and Gen Z females.
00:08:12.000 There's no coming back from this until women start policing their own ranks for the same reason that we can't fix world's strongest woman being a man until enough women rise up.
00:08:21.000 But here's the thing.
00:08:23.000 Women, you need to rise, and you can't cafeteria Christian this thing.
00:08:28.000 You can't cafeteria tradcon this thing.
00:08:32.000 Women will go, well, yeah, well, yeah, I want to be traditional.
00:08:34.000 But still, I want to be the one out there as a talking head, and I want to be a boss babe as well.
00:08:40.000 And I don't want to have to submit to the authority.
00:08:42.000 And I'm a powerful woman.
00:08:43.000 No, You can't do that.
00:08:45.000 It's not going to work.
00:08:47.000 You have to buy it wholesale and reject all of the tenets of modern feminism.
00:08:52.000 Not enough women are willing to do that.
00:08:53.000 So there's actually three more.
00:08:56.000 I want to go to clip four if we can.
00:08:58.000 So she's running in an area that would encompass Nashville and has some thoughts about Nashville.
00:09:04.000 And what's your name, Akrid Ben?
00:09:06.000 Afton.
00:09:08.000 I like that better, though.
00:09:09.000 Afton.
00:09:11.000 Okay.
00:09:11.000 Is it all Nashville, Gerald, or just a part of it?
00:09:13.000 Just a swath of it?
00:09:14.000 I don't know exactly, but it runs through Nashville.
00:09:16.000 It's an important city right there.
00:09:17.000 There we go.
00:09:18.000 I've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because I hate the city.
00:09:24.000 I hate the bachelorettes.
00:09:26.000 I hate the pedal taverns.
00:09:27.000 I hate country music.
00:09:28.000 I hate all of the things that make Nashville apparently an itch city to the rest of the country.
00:09:33.000 But I hate it.
00:09:34.000 Yeah.
00:09:34.000 I'm that girl at the airport that all these bachelorettes are giddy walking out in their two-tuned colored pant pink shirts.
00:09:41.000 And they walk out and I'm like, they're like, oh my God, Nashville.
00:09:45.000 So loud.
00:09:46.000 Yeah.
00:09:46.000 By the way, she's just saying the quiet part out loud that Michelle Obama could have been caught on a hot mic saying about the United States of America.
00:09:52.000 I hate everything about America except for the fact that my husband was elected president.
00:09:55.000 Yes, exactly.
00:09:56.000 And, well, I mean, you know, she has similar thoughts about the police.
00:10:00.000 Oh, wow.
00:10:02.000 Let me guess.
00:10:03.000 Play the clip.
00:10:04.000 Well, I'm currently involved in a transformative justice seminar.
00:10:08.000 And so it's how to imagine a world without police and what that looks like and what community methods look like.
00:10:15.000 How people can not police themselves, but not for her.
00:10:18.000 But for example, if you experience sexual assault, like what is the reconciliation process and what does transformative justice look like?
00:10:25.000 More sexual assault.
00:10:26.000 You can't take those things to court.
00:10:28.000 Like, you know, our legal system is terrible when it comes to retribution.
00:10:33.000 So anyways, all that to say is that like, I, you know, I hope all of you, so one, I'll have a podcast on it, and I highly recommend like if it's quite difficult for you to imagine a world without police, please tune in to maybe not this episode, but the next one.
00:10:48.000 can look at you and imagine a world without lips i'm learning and growing as an organizer because i think especially for those of us you know that are young like you know talking to our parents about what police abolition looks like that um you know we we can do it and there is a world And by the way, this is just what police abolition looks like.
00:11:04.000 She doesn't have any answers.
00:11:05.000 No.
00:11:06.000 She doesn't have any answers.
00:11:07.000 What does it look like?
00:11:07.000 Like, if you're raped and we don't have the police.
00:11:09.000 It looks like more rape.
00:11:10.000 It looks like just more, it's just the rape kit prepares you for the next rape.
00:11:14.000 Yes.
00:11:14.000 That's all it is.
00:11:15.000 And this is.
00:11:16.000 Are you going to take Chaz to form a police department and have Second Amendment rights?
00:11:20.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:11:21.000 It was one or the other.
00:11:21.000 We had Raz Simone handing out AR-15s, likely to underage kids at that point in time, or police.
00:11:26.000 You can't have borders, no Second Amendment, and no police.
00:11:30.000 She has no answers.
00:11:31.000 It's just destroy.
00:11:33.000 And that's where you see the horseshoe of the left, who I believe is, of course, the single greatest threat to this country.
00:11:39.000 The enemy is in the house.
00:11:41.000 And then what people sometimes refer to as like the dissident right, meaning people now who are very identitarian on the right, where they also just seek to destroy.
00:11:49.000 They just seek to destroy everything.
00:11:50.000 Oh, we're just, we're throwing our MAGA hats away and no more Trump.
00:11:54.000 And Vance sucks because his wife is Indian.
00:11:56.000 And okay, so what's the solution?
00:11:58.000 The closest I've heard is creating an alliance between Massey and Roe Conna.
00:12:03.000 Yeah.
00:12:03.000 No.
00:12:04.000 All right.
00:12:04.000 So how does that work?
00:12:05.000 So that's where they meet and go, yeah, we have no actual solutions and we don't have to actually play in the real world.
00:12:12.000 We just say everything sucks and let's destroy it and then sort of let the chips fall where they may.
00:12:16.000 This woman has no solutions.
00:12:18.000 And it's always those who benefit from the institutions most.
00:12:21.000 And what do I mean by that?
00:12:22.000 She benefits from the institution of police far more than strong men.
00:12:26.000 Matter of fact, you could argue that strong, capable men would probably actually perform better without police.
00:12:33.000 Why?
00:12:33.000 Because it's might is right.
00:12:34.000 And those who have might would have the highest yield, right?
00:12:37.000 They just take over whatever they want.
00:12:39.000 Those who benefit most from an organized police force, people like her, so that the men with the might don't simply enslave her, which by the way still happens on more slaves than ever in recorded history right now, over 40 million slaves on earth.
00:12:52.000 And then she benefits from institutions like higher education, right?
00:12:55.000 STEM fields, grants, of course, the affirmative action that also works for women, where they'll thrust them into fields where they shouldn't be.
00:13:03.000 Our public education system, which by the way, was designed for women, to be clear.
00:13:07.000 Our healthcare system.
00:13:08.000 As much as they bitch about, well, men, you know, men get their stuff paid for.
00:13:13.000 There's no pink tax on men, they'll talk about because our razors are black.
00:13:16.000 We don't pay extra for the rubber grip.
00:13:17.000 And your birth control is paid for.
00:13:21.000 There's often maternity leave and no paternity leave.
00:13:24.000 By the way, I think that's fine.
00:13:25.000 I also understand it.
00:13:26.000 She benefits most from the institutions, claims to want to tear them down and replace them with nothing.
00:13:33.000 Always beware.
00:13:34.000 People who seek to destroy and they offer to build nothing in its place or nothing realistic in its place.
00:13:42.000 That is all of the left, and it's a very small contingency of the right.
00:13:45.000 Just want a police force, but she still wants a hero.
00:13:47.000 She still wants a protector.
00:13:48.000 She doesn't realize it, and that comes in the form of a man.
00:13:53.000 A man has an instinct to protect wives, sisters, daughters, much more so than rape them all, right?
00:14:00.000 We have the spirit to protect those.
00:14:02.000 She needs that.
00:14:03.000 And that's also what allows a woman like her to exist today.
00:14:06.000 She's very entitled.
00:14:08.000 She's privileged, bereft of virtue.
00:14:10.000 Because back in the day, guess what?
00:14:11.000 If you were a woman like this, no man would provide and protect.
00:14:14.000 No.
00:14:14.000 Why?
00:14:15.000 Because you're not a virtuous woman.
00:14:16.000 Well, why would I want a nag?
00:14:18.000 Why would I want someone who simply cackles and complains about everything and bemoans the problem of children?
00:14:23.000 That's not a woman I want.
00:14:24.000 So she benefits from the institutions now because she would be a woman drummed out of the village not that long ago.
00:14:30.000 We have two more clips.
00:14:31.000 One more clip of her talking about biology and she's a genius.
00:14:35.000 Do we have anything of her mother bemoaning her?
00:14:37.000 I don't know.
00:14:38.000 We'll find that.
00:14:40.000 I think as an organizer and as an activist, like we really have an opportunity here in this country to talk about what type of policy, progressive policies we want to see as young women.
00:14:54.000 And I think we have, you know, as birther, you know, as women who can give birth, men and women who can give birth, we could maybe leverage that as collective bargaining, which is the basis of this book that I'm not, I've just started reading, but called Birth Strike.
00:15:09.000 Yeah.
00:15:09.000 I want to bet you want to finish it.
00:15:10.000 We can really leverage collective bargaining when it comes to having children in this country.
00:15:16.000 And so, for example, like, I'm not going to give birth until the United States government concedes ABCD.
00:15:22.000 What do you think about that?
00:15:23.000 We won't.
00:15:23.000 And it seems a little much.
00:15:27.000 You too can take part in Afrin's favorite things with her unread book club.
00:15:31.000 Yes.
00:15:32.000 I read the jacket.
00:15:33.000 She hasn't finished it, of course.
00:15:35.000 I read the foreword.
00:15:36.000 By the way, just think of like the words because they're the ones who create this whole word jumble of men, women, male, female, and men who can give birth.
00:15:45.000 Birthing.
00:15:45.000 Where are they shooting it out of their peehole like a starship?
00:15:49.000 This doesn't even work.
00:15:50.000 Yeah.
00:15:51.000 Cast a kidney stone in a plane once.
00:15:53.000 I mean, she obviously isn't going to win.
00:15:55.000 I would be very surprised if she won at this point in time.
00:15:57.000 Though Nashville is far further left than people often realize it's just close.
00:16:01.000 I hope this really elucidates for a lot of people what's going on.
00:16:05.000 Listen, I understand.
00:16:07.000 Like, try it.
00:16:08.000 Try it.
00:16:09.000 I mean, I think this encapsulates how she thinks more than anything.
00:16:13.000 I don't like what's going on in the government, and so I'm going to form a collective of women who refuse to give birth until the government does XYZ.
00:16:21.000 Wait a minute.
00:16:23.000 I thought that the family, like the husband and creating children was not something you performed as a service to government.
00:16:33.000 It's a function of the community and individual relationships.
00:16:38.000 And by the way, do you think that's going to work?
00:16:40.000 Do you think that's a really good strategy?
00:16:42.000 Let's just give you that you got 50% of the women in the United States to do that.
00:16:46.000 Do you know what the men would do?
00:16:48.000 Good.
00:16:49.000 I know 50% of the women that I want to have nothing to do with and Ukrainianbride.com still exists.
00:16:55.000 Just then that.
00:16:55.000 They support the hell out of the hot women from Ukraine that want to have a chance at a better life.
00:17:00.000 And guess what?
00:17:01.000 They'll give us some children.
00:17:02.000 Please move wherever you would like where the police don't exist and men get.
00:17:06.000 And then women try and mop and go, oh, yeah, passport, bro, because you can't handle a real woman of the West.
00:17:12.000 You mean the woman who thinks that men can shoot babies out their peehole?
00:17:15.000 Is that what you mean?
00:17:16.000 Yeah, you know, I'll take the old tree.
00:17:17.000 Yeah, you know what?
00:17:18.000 Sign me up as passport, bro.
00:17:20.000 What an idiot, dude.
00:17:22.000 Like, what an absolute can't handle a real.
00:17:24.000 And think about this.
00:17:25.000 Even like what we criticized, you know, a little bit, Charlie Kirk, when he did that interview with Gavin Newsom, that he kind of he softballed it a little bit.
00:17:31.000 He pressed sometimes, but when Gavin Newsom goes, you know, and like I've always said that, you know, men shouldn't be in women's sports.
00:17:36.000 No, you didn't?
00:17:37.000 No, he didn't.
00:17:37.000 He supported it.
00:17:38.000 But here's the thing.
00:17:39.000 Even men in the Democrat Party, they still do understand there's a little bit of accountability from other men.
00:17:46.000 So Gavin Newsom does feel the need to go, look, I think that this has gone too far.
00:17:50.000 Women like that don't.
00:17:52.000 She doesn't because no woman's going to go, this is stupid.
00:17:56.000 You understand how insane this is, right?
00:17:59.000 Women don't police their own in the same way that men do.
00:18:03.000 And that comes through a lifetime of whether you're at war with your squad, with your brigade, whatever it is, whether you're on a team, right?
00:18:13.000 In the sports team, where you have to play a team sport or just the way guys hang out with each other because men live under the perpetual fear of violence.
00:18:20.000 And yes, innately, might is right, where you have your friends with you who you have to count on, who actually have to watch your back physically.
00:18:26.000 So you rely on men.
00:18:28.000 When you rely on comrades, when you rely on your colleagues, when you rely on your brothers in arms, guess what?
00:18:34.000 You also have to face accountability from them because that's the only way you can be reliable to each other.
00:18:40.000 Women go through life without that.
00:18:42.000 And so they're not aware and they don't fear the accountability from their fellow women that men do from their other male members of the unit.
00:18:51.000 That's just reality.
00:18:53.000 This woman, I guarantee you, until this blows up in her face, she was blissfully unaware because she was surrounded by a bunch of women going like, that's so great that you read the foreword and said that babies come out men's peeholes.
00:19:03.000 I just think it's so brave.
00:19:05.000 Maybe you should go into, where was it, Bangladesh?
00:19:08.000 No, what country was it in?
00:19:09.000 The lady had the guy stop her on the side of the road and whip out his dong.
00:19:14.000 India.
00:19:15.000 Was that India?
00:19:16.000 Sri Lanka.
00:19:17.000 Sri Sri Lanka was right near it.
00:19:18.000 So why don't you go eat, pray, love your way across the world and report back to us on how all these societies that you would probably say are better than the United States in some ways treat women.
00:19:29.000 Yeah.
00:19:30.000 This system is set up to protect you.
00:19:32.000 You have no idea what it is to live out.
00:19:34.000 And that guy had done that before.
00:19:36.000 You could just glance left and right and then bam.
00:19:38.000 It was his go-to.
00:19:40.000 Like, watch, I'm going to do the old pull out the dick and say you want it, Trick.
00:19:46.000 5% of the time, it works every time.
00:19:49.000 That's right.
00:19:49.000 This is the best average penis you have ever seen.
00:19:52.000 Yeah.
00:19:53.000 Now take away cops and add two other Sri Lankans.
00:19:55.000 Guess what?
00:19:55.000 You're not getting away.
00:19:56.000 You're done.
00:19:57.000 You're done.
00:19:57.000 And we don't want that for you.
00:19:59.000 We don't.
00:19:59.000 We set up a system where we sacrifice to protect you.
00:20:02.000 Go live outside of it.
00:20:03.000 Go have fun.
00:20:04.000 The fact that this is even a possibility tells you that there's been a failure of patriarchy.
00:20:08.000 That's what it tells me.
00:20:09.000 Are these from 2020 of the recordings?
00:20:11.000 I thought I saw that date.
00:20:12.000 So these are recordings that just kind of have either resurfaced or just been uncovered about her.
00:20:17.000 So I don't know that.
00:20:18.000 Just getting her start.
00:20:20.000 Well, yeah, I mean, because I didn't think it was possible in 2025 to still be this dumb.
00:20:24.000 Yeah.
00:20:25.000 It's not dumb.
00:20:26.000 It's evil.
00:20:26.000 That last clip at least does say in 2020.
00:20:29.000 Oh, it does?
00:20:29.000 Okay.
00:20:30.000 Yeah.
00:20:30.000 Yeah.
00:20:30.000 So maybe she's walked it back now that they've seen the writing on the wall and people aren't buying into the QA.
00:20:35.000 She believed it?
00:20:36.000 Come on.
00:20:37.000 There was no questioning in her voice.
00:20:38.000 But she was saying that.
00:20:40.000 She was saying that.
00:20:40.000 Keep in mind at the exact moment in time where they were accusing the right of being anti-science because we didn't think that lockdowns would work.
00:20:47.000 We thought it may have come from a Wuhan lab, right?
00:20:49.000 At the exact same time when they were saying, yeah, you anti-science, use horse D-wormer.
00:20:54.000 You mean the prescription?
00:20:55.000 One of the most used prescriptions on earth?
00:20:57.000 You mean ivermectin's out?
00:20:58.000 You mean, yeah, you deny science while they say that men can give birth.
00:21:02.000 Right.
00:21:03.000 Yeah.
00:21:03.000 By the way, an anecdote, my grandmother just beat bladder cancer with the help of ivermectin.
00:21:08.000 Nice.
00:21:09.000 Good for her.
00:21:10.000 I'm glad she's great.
00:21:10.000 She's doing well.
00:21:11.000 Good.
00:21:12.000 Horse D-Worm.
00:21:13.000 By the way, this is, of course, not medical advice for people out there.
00:21:17.000 Did she use any of the fish tank clear?
00:21:18.000 Yes.
00:21:19.000 Probably not the Laura Klein.
00:21:22.000 Yeah.
00:21:22.000 She just killed that guy.
00:21:23.000 We all know.
00:21:23.000 Though I will say, I do find it a little bit funny when, and I've said this before, people go like, oh, red dye.
00:21:28.000 And it's like, yeah, it's, I mean, methylene blue is blue dye.
00:21:30.000 Yeah.
00:21:30.000 That's what it was.
00:21:31.000 It was used to dye textiles and it was used like, in other words, the natural fallacy doesn't apply here.
00:21:35.000 There are natural chemicals that occur in nature that are beneficial and harmful.
00:21:40.000 And there are lab-made chemicals that are beneficial and harmful.
00:21:44.000 So people just go, oh, no, this is industrial.
00:21:47.000 Well, sure, but avocado oil is not whatever it is.
00:21:52.000 Pick it.
00:21:53.000 Whatever it is.
00:21:54.000 Olive oil technically is industrial because of the way it's pressed.
00:21:56.000 It's not bad for you.
00:21:58.000 I don't know.
00:21:59.000 It's one of those things.
00:22:00.000 Like, yeah, yeah, take.
00:22:01.000 And by the way, it seems like there's some benefits from methylene blue.
00:22:04.000 All right.
00:22:05.000 Let's take some chat.
00:22:06.000 I don't know if.
00:22:06.000 Tomorrow we have the.
00:22:08.000 Oh, shoot.
00:22:08.000 That's right.
00:22:08.000 I'm sorry.
00:22:09.000 Tomorrow we have Gerald apologizes profusely, but never enough.
00:22:13.000 Gerald apologizes apologetics with Jay Dyer.
00:22:16.000 Here is a sizzle reel.
00:22:18.000 You have a lot of these directors, a lot of these actors are into satanic cults or super weird stuff.
00:22:23.000 And all of that turned out to be real.
00:22:27.000 He's one of the best debaters that I have seen, and he covers a wide range of topics from Orthodox Christianity all the way to the occults in Hollywood.
00:22:35.000 And that is Mr. Jay Dyer.
00:22:38.000 You've written several books, and I think they're all titled Esoteric Hollywood.
00:22:43.000 Is it conspiracy theories or is it like really kind of stuff that's going on in Hollywood that we should be more aware of?
00:22:48.000 It's all the above.
00:22:49.000 The Pentagon, the Military Industrial Complex, CIA, you know, what's actually going on in Hollywood that isn't just intelligence agencies, but also covers cults.
00:22:58.000 So the only people left to care about biblical theology were people who were going into evangelical Baptist seminaries, and the conservative Presbyterians or Lutherans were just such a minority throughout the decades of the last century that all those universities and seminaries that were evangelical were just bought off or, you know, propagandized.
00:23:18.000 Most people don't know why they believe what they believe.
00:23:21.000 Remember that there you go.
00:23:29.000 Tomorrow, that's a, you know, you can, that can be a family watch.
00:23:32.000 And as I understand, it was a great guy and made some great points.
00:23:34.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:23:34.000 He does look like a frumpy Don Johnson, though.
00:23:36.000 He should have in his shirt.
00:23:38.000 He rolled up angles.
00:23:39.000 Yeah.
00:23:41.000 He's probably so Andrew was actually the guy who turned me on to him and started listening to his debates.
00:23:47.000 He's not everybody's cup of tea in how he debates, but he is incredibly, incredibly smart because he started out as a Protestant, converted to Catholicism, and then went into Orthodoxy.
00:23:59.000 So he has a very, very, very good understanding of the early church and also a lot of stuff that's happening within Hollywood that relates back to this stuff.
00:24:07.000 So very interesting guy.
00:24:08.000 He's been on Alex Jones.
00:24:10.000 He's been on that network for many, many years doing stuff.
00:24:13.000 And that's one thing when people say, you change your mind.
00:24:15.000 And I'm not saying at all that I'm a Catholic or Orthodox, but I've been spending time.
00:24:18.000 Like, I guess I would probably be closest to a Methodist if I were to, the more I've looked into the theology.
00:24:22.000 And the truth is, I took for granted, you know, a lot because we didn't have any churches in Canada.
00:24:26.000 You basically had Catholic and then take your pick of any Protestant church because there weren't many.
00:24:31.000 Right.
00:24:32.000 You could throw a net over all of them.
00:24:33.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:24:34.000 And I do think that even though the theology may be correct, there isn't the preservation mechanism needed in place for a large swath of a Protestant church.
00:24:43.000 And that's something that we all need to be aware of because they'll preach from the pulpit like, hey, the propaganda coming from Hollywood.
00:24:48.000 I'm going to do an episode on that so people have an understanding of it.
00:24:50.000 Because right now, the Protestant church gets lumped into like a thing and it's completely not a thing.
00:24:54.000 That's right.
00:24:54.000 It is a very, very different thing and why people kind of split up.
00:24:58.000 Just to give some history, because I, until I jumped into this and I went to seminary-ish, right?
00:25:03.000 I went to Bible school is probably a better word for it.
00:25:06.000 And I've spent a lot of time studying theology.
00:25:08.000 I had never really gone into a lot of depth on the early church and why Orthodox and Catholicism essentially is a thing and what they split about and why all these different Protestant churches do the things that they do and in the different ways.
00:25:21.000 So it's very, very interesting if you're if you're somebody who studies that stuff.
00:25:24.000 But yeah, it's not a Protestantism is not a thing.
00:25:27.000 Right.
00:25:27.000 Well, and I grew up obviously because public schools were Catholic schools.
00:25:30.000 So I was very aware of, and again, a ton of great Catholics in this country.
00:25:34.000 And I think that we agree on a whole lot more than we disagree.
00:25:36.000 I was familiar with that.
00:25:38.000 And then sort of broad strokes, Protestantism, largely, we really only had like a Baptist church and a Pentecostal church.
00:25:45.000 So I kind of knew about those.
00:25:47.000 But pretty much unfamiliar with Orthodoxy because that was just something that the Greeks did in Canada.
00:25:53.000 It wasn't really popular here.
00:25:54.000 It was almost more of an ethnic.
00:25:55.000 It's still not, but it's growing in popularity.
00:25:57.000 But it's still very, very small compared to the other kind of you're right to clarify, Gerald, that it's not a thing.
00:26:02.000 It's many things.
00:26:03.000 Yeah, many things.
00:26:04.000 And yeah, we're.
00:26:05.000 We had the guy on who wrote the book, Protestantism, the Faith That Won the West.
00:26:11.000 Right.
00:26:12.000 Very good point.
00:26:13.000 Yeah.
00:26:13.000 But it wasn't a specific denomination.
00:26:15.000 No, but I mean, it's tying it into our history here.
00:26:18.000 Like it was Protestants who came over here.
00:26:19.000 It was a big thing.
00:26:20.000 You know, like it was, they are the ones that came over here and said, hey, we want to get away from all of this stuff.
00:26:24.000 We need to set something up.
00:26:25.000 Like, you know, Church of England, the Catholic Church.
00:26:27.000 Church of America and go, how did we get it?
00:26:29.000 Protestants came here and made it.
00:26:31.000 Right.
00:26:31.000 Well, you were kicked out of the Catholic Church for reading the Bible until 1960.
00:26:35.000 Yeah.
00:26:35.000 And so that's not a tribe that's going to come over and subdue the earth, right?
00:26:39.000 No.
00:26:39.000 And press the faith.
00:26:41.000 Well, and also because you go from a Catholic, then you have the Church of England.
00:26:44.000 And so it's just talk about more, it's more the Protestant spirit of we have a problem with the Church of England, which, by the way, you could even say there's a parallel with Martin Luther, who really had, really would be much more similar.
00:26:55.000 You know, people think of him as sort of the original Protestant.
00:26:57.000 Of course, the Catholic Church referred to him as a heretic, but he would have much more in common with Orthodox or Catholics than he would with non-denominational churches today.
00:27:05.000 So if you look at like the way he wanted to be, he wanted to go back into Catholicism.
00:27:09.000 Right.
00:27:09.000 Like he wasn't trying to break away and start anything.
00:27:11.000 He was trying to reform Catholicism.
00:27:13.000 Yeah, then they tried to tried to execute him.
00:27:16.000 And he's like, all right, I'm going to go a different direction.
00:27:18.000 You know, maybe cutting into our cash.
00:27:19.000 Keep moving.
00:27:20.000 Yeah.
00:27:20.000 All right.
00:27:21.000 Well, that's great.
00:27:22.000 And that'll be up tomorrow.
00:27:24.000 And then we are not going to be here Thursday and Friday, but we'll be back the following Monday.
00:27:27.000 So since we don't have a Thursday, it's time for chat Tuesday.
00:27:30.000 Ah, check it out.
00:27:36.000 ...on this show.
00:27:37.000 You just don't understand when your mic is on you.
00:27:39.000 Oh, I just heard it come booming through.
00:27:40.000 So now I know.
00:27:41.000 Very flexible.
00:27:42.000 We got to turn it on and make it.
00:27:44.000 Damn it.
00:27:45.000 All right.
00:27:45.000 I got a name.
00:27:47.000 You smash the keyboard with your palm.
00:27:49.000 All right, buddy, but you owe me.
00:27:50.000 By the way, I just saw a trailer that like, it's really rare that you see trailers for films now.
00:27:56.000 What?
00:27:57.000 And they're rebooting Anaconda with Paul Rudd and Jack Black.
00:28:01.000 Oh, that's right.
00:28:02.000 Yeah, it's like they're going to make a movie.
00:28:04.000 They're going to make the movie Anaconda and they lose their Anaconda.
00:28:07.000 And so then there's a.
00:28:09.000 Actually, if someone wants to bring up the trailer, there is a funny thing.
00:28:11.000 I know some people hate Jack Black.
00:28:13.000 I think the guy's very multi-talented, but there's a, if you go about two-thirds through the Anaconda trailer, John, Johnny Boy, and I were there in writer's room just laughing our ass off.
00:28:23.000 So I'll set it up for you.
00:28:24.000 That might be fun.
00:28:25.000 They go to the Amazon to reboot Anaconda, but they lose their Anaconda that they bring with them.
00:28:31.000 So then they find themselves.
00:28:32.000 It's kind of like Tropic Thunder, right?
00:28:33.000 In a real Anaconda type scenario.
00:28:35.000 And they think Jack Black is dead.
00:28:38.000 So they use him as bait and they tie him up to a post with a dead pig on his head.
00:28:42.000 And then he wakes up and sees the Anaconda coming for him.
00:28:47.000 It's just the way they do it.
00:28:48.000 It's pretty funny.
00:28:49.000 It might be fun to grab it.
00:28:51.000 Yeah, I think I got that.
00:28:52.000 Okay, yeah, you could just like, you could rewind it a few paces so we can see it.
00:28:55.000 Okay, here.
00:28:55.000 We'll do this.
00:28:57.000 I'm here.
00:28:59.000 Holy sh.
00:29:00.000 My Anaconda.
00:29:02.000 I keep rolling.
00:29:04.000 Anaconda don't want none else.
00:29:08.000 He's dead.
00:29:09.000 Oh, what are we going to do?
00:29:11.000 What if we use Douglas Baird to get back to the boat?
00:29:14.000 That's a really smart idea.
00:29:18.000 Go wanted this.
00:29:19.000 I'm not sure he would have wanted this.
00:29:22.000 Oh, look at the snake.
00:29:23.000 He's alive.
00:29:24.000 I thought you checked his balls right there.
00:29:27.000 Don't.
00:29:28.000 He's right behind you!
00:29:29.000 Pass!
00:29:38.000 It's pretty funny.
00:29:41.000 He wakes up with a dead pig on his head.
00:29:43.000 I like it.
00:29:43.000 That's going to be funny.
00:29:44.000 Who's the other guy that didn't give him credit?
00:29:46.000 Steve Zahn.
00:29:46.000 Oh, gosh, he's hilarious.
00:29:47.000 Pink champagne, man.
00:29:49.000 Oh, and you're like, pink champagne is the best.
00:29:52.000 I loved him until he did that movie of the tranny kid where he's like, I found out this is who he really is.
00:29:56.000 I was like, it was just the worst propaganda.
00:29:58.000 Outside of that, he needed to check.
00:30:00.000 Yeah, it was terrible.
00:30:01.000 All right.
00:30:01.000 Let's grab some chats.
00:30:02.000 All right.
00:30:03.000 First chat from FU Google.
00:30:05.000 Nice.
00:30:05.000 Question for the crew: What is the current single biggest threat to the U.S.?
00:30:09.000 Pops Crowder is the man.
00:30:10.000 Oh, right.
00:30:13.000 Well, the single biggest threat is the progressive left, is leftism to the United States.
00:30:18.000 This nation will crumble if we allow the enemy within to destroy us from within.
00:30:23.000 That's the biggest threat.
00:30:24.000 And of course, then that means there are sort of proxy threats.
00:30:27.000 So those who seek to fracture the right and to destroy the momentum that has been generated, they're doing, in my opinion, they're doing the work of the left.
00:30:36.000 And the left is a death cult.
00:30:38.000 So if you do that and you're doing the bidding of the left, whether purposefully or inadvertently, you're serving a death cult.
00:30:45.000 And it doesn't mean that people on the right have to agree on everything.
00:30:48.000 I absolutely think that's what we try and call balls and strikes.
00:30:50.000 But people who exist solely to fracture the right.
00:30:54.000 And you know who I'm talking about.
00:30:55.000 That's a big threat because that gives the left a win.
00:30:57.000 And we know what they want.
00:30:59.000 They want a world of gender dysphoria, of socialism.
00:31:03.000 And really, what is, I mean, you just heard Hassan Piker the other day was a good idea.
00:31:06.000 He said, he was asked on trigonometry.
00:31:08.000 Yeah.
00:31:08.000 Who's done it right?
00:31:09.000 And he said, well, I'm critical of all governments.
00:31:11.000 And he said, China has done it the best for its citizens.
00:31:14.000 I guess he doesn't know what doesn't know about the slavery.
00:31:17.000 Right.
00:31:17.000 So that's what they want.
00:31:19.000 When they say the quiet part out loud, you just heard it from that Afrin, whatever her name is, people like Hassan Piker.
00:31:26.000 You hear the left sometimes where the mask is off, and you know what they want for this country.
00:31:30.000 Yeah, I think, and I know this is, I'm going to just go up one level in the macro.
00:31:33.000 Like, I think it's apathy.
00:31:35.000 I think people not caring, not putting time and effort into understanding the government that they are living under and caring about their communities, caring about what happens, not actually perceiving there to be real threats like leftism, like the feminism stuff that we've been talking about, like China trying to box us out in different areas, like this weird kind of dissident right movement that's not just critical of Israel because that's fine.
00:31:57.000 We've had our own problems with Israel, but it's doing it in such a way to destroy something and not really have anything to replace it, just in this destructive kind of mode.
00:32:05.000 And like, I think that's one of the biggest threats is that people don't pay much attention to life because they just kind of get plugged in and move along.
00:32:12.000 Well, I wouldn't even say apathy because that's not as people are pretty politically engaged.
00:32:16.000 There are a lot of, but they're the left, it's progressivism, and then the absence of truth, the post-truth area.
00:32:24.000 That's what we're seeing on the right.
00:32:25.000 The whole, hey, I mean, you've seen all the conspiracy surrounding the Charlie Kirk assassination.
00:32:28.000 It's fine to ask questions, but here's a detailed chart where everything is baseless, is verifiably false, but believe me, and anyone who tells you not to believe my completely unreferenced claim is a shill.
00:32:42.000 And then we even had someone just yesterday, I know you interacted with them on X, who said that I was awful because I had invited Nick Fuentes on.
00:32:51.000 And I wasn't applying my own standard equally because I said I wouldn't debate Hassan Piker because he calls for the death of people.
00:32:56.000 He goes, well, Nick Fuentes has called for the deaths of Jews.
00:32:58.000 And honestly, here's the thing.
00:33:00.000 For all my criticisms of Nick Fuentes, I don't know that I've ever heard him like Hassan Piker call for the death.
00:33:04.000 He asked Grok and Grok gave answers.
00:33:06.000 I'm like, well, what's the context of this?
00:33:08.000 This isn't calling the direct death of anybody.
00:33:12.000 Even let's say that he was, because it's really hard to know if he was joking or serious.
00:33:16.000 And I think sometimes he was joking where if he says, oh, yeah, doubts the numbers of the Holocaust, that's still not calling for the deaths of Jews.
00:33:22.000 That's not the same as saying spill their blood in the street.
00:33:25.000 So that person there who would be considered stab.
00:33:28.000 What Hassan say that got him banned?
00:33:30.000 Stab a politician, Scott.
00:33:32.000 Somebody, yeah.
00:33:33.000 Yeah.
00:33:34.000 He got banned for a month for saying, literally telling his audience to stand up.
00:33:38.000 I mean, Nick Fuentes, even he was the nemesis of Charlie Kirk, right?
00:33:40.000 He was trolling him everywhere he went, and he still mourned the death of Charlie Kirk and said, you don't want to see that, of course.
00:33:45.000 So there is a difference.
00:33:46.000 Even from those who people think, whether you agree or disagree, who would be considered some of the most controversial or problematic figures, to use the left's term, right, on the right, because I hear people on the right say problematic, and I'm like, don't use victim words.
00:33:58.000 It's still not even close to the left, to the mainstream left.
00:34:00.000 So then you have someone like that who would fancy themselves a traditional conservative, and now you give credence to the people who say gatekeeping.
00:34:08.000 Of course I've invited Nick.
00:34:08.000 I've also invited Candace on and Tucker on and Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro on.
00:34:12.000 I had the first transgender mayor in Texas, Jesse Herbston.
00:34:16.000 I've had Naomi Wolf on.
00:34:17.000 I had an Imam on who called for my death on air, so I didn't have him back.
00:34:21.000 I brought that up.
00:34:21.000 I'm like, well, the point was that you're trying to show that Islamic is not peaceful.
00:34:26.000 Right.
00:34:26.000 Because they did say during an interview that you should die.
00:34:29.000 Right.
00:34:29.000 So mission accomplished.
00:34:30.000 It's like, oh, well, that was a waste of interview.
00:34:32.000 I'm like, well, then you don't know media.
00:34:34.000 You don't understand the boy.
00:34:35.000 The fucking interview.
00:34:36.000 Right.
00:34:36.000 Yeah.
00:34:36.000 So the post, the absence of truth itself is an advantage to the left because they always love to do whatever it is that they're trying to carry out in secret.
00:34:47.000 Next chat.
00:34:47.000 I think Gerald, though, has a good point.
00:34:49.000 The apathy thing is true, but the lack of truth is the moral compass.
00:34:53.000 It's the filter through which you run everything.
00:34:56.000 And then those people get apathetic because they don't have that.
00:34:58.000 They don't have any way to engage, to really.
00:35:00.000 Well, sometimes you get people who I've seen now, you get people who have a complete absence of truth, and they are adamant.
00:35:07.000 They're almost dogmatic about it, and they will defend it when, and that's really difficult because if you've ever known someone who's gone insane, and I have, it's watching this descent into madness, and it's a very helpless feeling.
00:35:19.000 It's a very helpless feeling.
00:35:21.000 You can't do anything about it.
00:35:22.000 And you see that happening en masse sometimes right now.
00:35:24.000 And that's very cool.
00:35:25.000 I also heard Dennis Miller say, if you're a full-grown adult and you don't have an opinion on such subjects, then you've lived an asshole's life.
00:35:31.000 Yes, exactly.
00:35:32.000 Yeah, exactly right.
00:35:33.000 And so I get to see that really quickly, and I know we want to move on to more chats.
00:35:36.000 But every time, so there was a recent post by Candace, and I know we've talked about Candace before.
00:35:41.000 And all I literally said, and I shouldn't say it that way because I am paraphrasing.
00:35:46.000 I don't remember the exact words, was basically like, if you have this information, can you show it?
00:35:51.000 Right.
00:35:52.000 And the responses that I got was the descent into madness.
00:35:55.000 Yeah, it's the burden of the goofies on the person making the claim.
00:35:57.000 Exactly.
00:35:59.000 I wasn't challenging the validity.
00:36:00.000 I'm just saying, hey, can you show us?
00:36:02.000 Since you said you have evidence, can you show us that evidence?
00:36:04.000 And the stuff that I got was like, man, people really are descending into madness.
00:36:08.000 Like, I don't want you to defend me that way.
00:36:10.000 Like, listen, if you're a fan of this show and you're a fan of what we do, that's fantastic.
00:36:14.000 And I love that.
00:36:15.000 Do not ever take our word for it.
00:36:16.000 That's why we give you the references.
00:36:18.000 Never say Gerald said and stop there, or Steven said and stop there.
00:36:23.000 That's not what we want you to do ever.
00:36:26.000 We want you to know that what we said is true because you looked at what we referenced or you agreed with our opinion based on facts and evidence presented, not conjecture, not an idea that just got shoehorned in.
00:36:38.000 Like you don't want that.
00:36:40.000 Well, that's how you know, too, that certain people are, they don't actually want to communicate real ideas.
00:36:45.000 They just want to trick people.
00:36:46.000 So to use a Nick Fuentes example, is, you know, he, I guess, Lane said, because I don't really check my direct messages.
00:36:52.000 He said that Nick Fuentes had said, like, debate me.
00:36:54.000 And when we're doing change throughout the road, and so then we reached out to him, and people going, you won't debate him.
00:37:00.000 You won't debate them.
00:37:01.000 Okay, all right, fine.
00:37:02.000 All right, invite him on.
00:37:02.000 Then they go, you didn't invite him on.
00:37:05.000 Yeah, we did.
00:37:06.000 Why would he go on anyway?
00:37:07.000 Wait, what?
00:37:09.000 And that's the kind of thing that happens, right?
00:37:10.000 And then they, and then people just snipe where it's like, I'm not going to do the thing where you do a video and a video and a video.
00:37:14.000 It's like, okay, you address it once and you leave it.
00:37:16.000 But to me, that's not someone who's looking to communicate ideas.
00:37:20.000 And I'm not saying Nick himself, because maybe, maybe he will.
00:37:23.000 But you've been following.
00:37:24.000 It's very fair to him.
00:37:25.000 I don't think he's always fair, but you've been very fair to him and extending the invitation and trying to give him the benefit of the doubt many times.
00:37:32.000 Yeah.
00:37:33.000 And, you know, I hope he does.
00:37:34.000 All right.
00:37:34.000 Next chat.
00:37:35.000 All right.
00:37:35.000 Next chat from the good username in reverse.
00:37:38.000 Question for the crew: why is Trump falling for the Muslim takeover, making deals with Qatar Muslims and putting a joint base in Idaho along with a mosque?
00:37:46.000 What the F is up with that?
00:37:48.000 So I need to, sorry to interrupt, but the Idaho thing, I don't think they were putting a joint base in Idaho.
00:37:54.000 Like it wasn't like a new base that didn't exist.
00:37:57.000 There are joint training drills that we've done with other countries at bases that we've done all the time.
00:38:02.000 But the story came out and people ran with it as like they're building a new base for them there.
00:38:06.000 And I don't think that's true at all.
00:38:07.000 It's our base.
00:38:08.000 We just have joint training operations and that's where we chose to do that.
00:38:12.000 That's the same thing I'm with Candace talking about the French.
00:38:13.000 It's like, well, you have joint training operations, especially with special task forces all the time.
00:38:18.000 All the time.
00:38:19.000 That's what all allies do.
00:38:21.000 And I don't know about the mosque thing.
00:38:22.000 I will say Qatar is one of those things where he would argue that they're an important sort of broker in peace deals in the Middle East.
00:38:29.000 And I think it could be argued that they're not because they are obviously having funding terrorism.
00:38:34.000 They fund both sides.
00:38:35.000 But if you look back in time, I mean, at one point in time, we supported Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.
00:38:40.000 It doesn't mean it's right.
00:38:41.000 It means sometimes you work with what you have.
00:38:42.000 I think there's a big difference between considering someone an ally in that region of the world as the perfect is the enemy of the good and we work with the hand we've been dealt versus importing Islam here to the United States.
00:38:56.000 And I've not seen any substantial evidence that Donald Trump is doing that here.
00:39:00.000 No, I think there, you know, there are so many threats that you kind of have your eyes on.
00:39:04.000 And I think this is one of those threats right now that Muslims around the world have done a really good job at kind of masking in the United States because they've switched tactics.
00:39:12.000 It used to be very easy to go, well, that guy just blew himself up in a market, stabbed a bunch of people, ran people over with a bus or something like that.
00:39:18.000 Obviously, that's bad.
00:39:19.000 Now they're just coming in and breeding and voting and using our system against us.
00:39:23.000 And so that's a much different situation to have to deal with.
00:39:26.000 You have to come up with new ways to deal with that.
00:39:29.000 When people say that, they're like, Donald Trump's betrayed us on Islam.
00:39:31.000 It's like, okay.
00:39:32.000 So, you want to replace him with the person who didn't enact an Islamic travel ban, a Muslim travel ban?
00:39:37.000 He's the guy who did that, who reversed it.
00:39:39.000 Now, is he as hardline enough?
00:39:42.000 No, but is he the most hardline president on that and being able to recognize the threat that people present from certain countries?
00:39:49.000 Yes.
00:39:49.000 So, you replace him with whom?
00:39:51.000 And I don't want to replace someone based on a mistruth.
00:39:53.000 I don't know.
00:39:54.000 Unless I'm wrong, I don't think that Donald Trump is, as a matter of policy, installed a mosque.
00:39:59.000 And Idaho, I could be wrong about that, but I don't think.
00:40:01.000 I think Idaho, I don't know where the mosque is.
00:40:03.000 I don't know if they were referencing that.
00:40:04.000 I think Trump domestically couldn't care less about politics and dealing with the swamp.
00:40:07.000 But internationally, he's pretty good.
00:40:09.000 I mean, he's pretty savvy at creating relationships and gladhanding a bit.
00:40:12.000 He knows who he's working.
00:40:13.000 He knows who's trying to work him.
00:40:15.000 He gets it domestically.
00:40:16.000 He couldn't give any of these people on the other side.
00:40:18.000 Yeah.
00:40:19.000 So, really quickly, so before we take the next chat, we have a good update, a very good update for everybody who is concerned about the she male winning the strongman.
00:40:30.000 Stripped?
00:40:30.000 Stripped of the medal?
00:40:32.000 Yes, indeed.
00:40:33.000 Strongman Games comes out.
00:40:34.000 Official strongman officials were unaware of this fact ahead of the competition, and we have been urgently investigating since being informed.
00:40:41.000 Had we been aware or had this been declared at any point before during the competition, this athlete would not have been permitted to compete in the women's open category.
00:40:49.000 We have disqualified the athlete in question from the official Strongman League Championships 2025.
00:40:54.000 All athlete points and places will be altered accordingly to ensure that the rightful places are allocated to each of the women's open athletes.
00:41:01.000 Pussies.
00:41:02.000 They just use athletes.
00:41:06.000 They use the word athlete everywhere to avoid him and her.
00:41:08.000 By the way, this is people act as though, ah, nothing's been done.
00:41:12.000 This is a win.
00:41:13.000 And let me sort of draw a line for you.
00:41:15.000 This is a big win.
00:41:16.000 YouTube would ban discussing transgenderism.
00:41:20.000 YouTube would, at one point, they deemed it completely unadvertiser-friendly, not allowed to promote anything surrounding their only two genders, change my mind, right?
00:41:28.000 That was done a long time ago.
00:41:29.000 At that point in time, you were persona non grata.
00:41:30.000 It was hate speech.
00:41:31.000 Now, draw that line from back in the day.
00:41:33.000 If this had happened, well, we know exactly what the reaction would be.
00:41:37.000 If someone protested, that would be the person punished, right?
00:41:41.000 If someone left the podium, that would have been the person punished.
00:41:44.000 We saw it with the IOC and the Olympics.
00:41:45.000 And hey, hate has no role in our organization.
00:41:49.000 That would have been the reaction.
00:41:50.000 Now, draw a line from their only two genders, change my mind, wildly unpopular at that moment in time.
00:41:55.000 No one was on campus.
00:41:57.000 And then to the president elected with a mandate of the masses saying legally we are only recognizing two genders.
00:42:03.000 And now a very different reaction where someone is stripped of their medal, rightfully so.
00:42:07.000 You would have had the exact opposite outcome only seven years ago.
00:42:11.000 That's right.
00:42:12.000 And watch the backlash and be ready to defend against it.
00:42:14.000 Be ready to have their back when they do something right like this because you know this community that has not gone away, that has just become a little bit more quiet, is going to respond.
00:42:22.000 I think there's less backlash, though, now.
00:42:24.000 They think, but just be ready because I don't want us to tell people to do the right thing.
00:42:29.000 And I say this, us as a movement, right?
00:42:31.000 I don't want us to tell people to do the right thing and support them doing the right thing and then forget about it and say that.
00:42:36.000 Yeah, good point.
00:42:37.000 Did they really need to use the bent bar in their logo?
00:42:40.000 Yeah.
00:42:41.000 I mean, it's heavyweight.
00:42:42.000 Yeah, it's heavyweight.
00:42:42.000 No, not really.
00:42:44.000 Not really.
00:42:45.000 That's heavy?
00:42:45.000 Okay.
00:42:46.000 Well, no, I mean, to each their own.
00:42:47.000 In the logo, it's heavy, but they're not lifting that.
00:42:49.000 But you want the women?
00:42:50.000 The women.
00:42:51.000 It's also the official strong man games.
00:42:53.000 So I feel like they do that.
00:42:54.000 Well, then, yeah, they spend the heck out of it.
00:42:55.000 Yeah, of course.
00:42:57.000 Put a Volkswagen on his back.
00:42:58.000 But no, I'm talking about the women's.
00:43:00.000 That thing has a Doniker.
00:43:01.000 That's it.
00:43:02.000 Yeah, she does.
00:43:03.000 Next chat.
00:43:05.000 Swinging low.
00:43:06.000 She's lovely.
00:43:07.000 Next chat from Cool Bros01.
00:43:11.000 Question with the crew, whatever.
00:43:12.000 How can a trans person be a Christian?
00:43:14.000 If God doesn't make mistakes, how can someone be born in the wrong body?
00:43:18.000 Well, someone can still be a Christian and just be completely turned around as the result of their experiences.
00:43:23.000 It doesn't make it right.
00:43:25.000 I mean, you know, the same thing can be said for people who are incredibly promiscuous, which, you know, we don't find to be as much of an affront because it's also more natural, right?
00:43:34.000 Men are hardwired to be promiscuous, but we're told to bridle that as Christians.
00:43:38.000 So someone could still be a Christian or still be saved, but also be living a life of sin.
00:43:43.000 Of course, at a certain point, they have to stop it.
00:43:45.000 Now, if they are actively waging war against the tenets of God, saying that you can be any gender you want, of course, I would question their faith.
00:43:53.000 I would question their authenticity based on the fruit of the spirit.
00:43:57.000 But I will say this: transgenderism is anti-Christian.
00:44:01.000 The two cannot be reconciled with each other.
00:44:03.000 Individuals will make mistakes.
00:44:05.000 Yeah.
00:44:05.000 And exactly.
00:44:06.000 I think it's that battling part.
00:44:07.000 Like if you are fighting through your sin, and listen, people want to talk about this stuff.
00:44:12.000 Look, homosexuality is a sin.
00:44:13.000 Deal with the Bible, not me.
00:44:15.000 Deal with God if you have a problem with that.
00:44:17.000 And so what does it look like for somebody to be a Christian in general?
00:44:22.000 Well, it means that you go by the playbook and say, okay, well, what is sin and what is not sin?
00:44:27.000 Okay.
00:44:27.000 I therefore, once I've done that, I cannot go and tell God what sin really is and go, you know what, I like your program, except for items 75 and 83.
00:44:36.000 I'm going to say that those are actually wrong and I'm going to just continue living in those and celebrating those and doing those and saying that that is not sin.
00:44:42.000 So what Stephen's talking about is actually fighting and working through that.
00:44:45.000 And I've seen men who are gay just be celibate and say, you know what?
00:44:52.000 I don't want to go against what God has said.
00:44:54.000 And so it is better for me to go through life celibate, like a meow Paul situation potentially, than it is for me to go and live in this sin.
00:45:03.000 And in some cases, I've literally had conversations with people who grew up, had homosexual relationships, went to be celibate, and then ended up marrying a woman and having a family after that.
00:45:13.000 I have no idea what that story is going to look like, but I do understand that there are different crosses that we have to bear.
00:45:18.000 Calling God's word and definition of what sin is wrong is not one of those things that we can do and also call ourselves a Christian.
00:45:27.000 But none of that means you're not forgiven.
00:45:29.000 I mean, Christ's finished work on the cross is it.
00:45:32.000 And we all sin moment to moment, not daily.
00:45:35.000 But working constantly.
00:45:36.000 Right.
00:45:36.000 We're working through our faith.
00:45:37.000 That's a totally different thing.
00:45:39.000 Exactly.
00:45:39.000 And I'm going to put a fine point on it.
00:45:41.000 You cannot say this is not sin and then be saved because I would say, God, you've washed all these sins away.
00:45:48.000 This one thing you said is sin, you have to acknowledge that.
00:45:50.000 And I'm going to exactly.
00:45:52.000 That's a different thing.
00:45:52.000 That's what you're being forgiven for.
00:45:54.000 You know what leads down that path?
00:45:55.000 That's exactly what leads on.
00:45:56.000 You know what's just as egregious?
00:45:57.000 Female pastors leading churches.
00:46:00.000 Oh, no.
00:46:01.000 But what God said here, what should not happen, I think it should happen for me.
00:46:05.000 I think I should hold authority over men.
00:46:07.000 Let's start a denomination.
00:46:09.000 Just as far as refusing to acknowledge God's prescription and saying, no, no, he's wrong about that.
00:46:14.000 And that's what happens in the wonky places, man.
00:46:17.000 That's where I'm sure, like Dreyer, Dyer, Jay Dyer.
00:46:24.000 That's where the Orthodox church or more traditional churches have far more standing.
00:46:27.000 They just go, well, we're not going to do that.
00:46:28.000 Why?
00:46:29.000 Well, because we've never done that prescription.
00:46:30.000 Now, you may disagree with all of what they view theologically as the tenets of God's prescription, but they've remained very consistent.
00:46:37.000 They don't change because, ugh, attendance is down.
00:46:39.000 So let's have a lady pastor.
00:46:42.000 Right.
00:46:42.000 All of these things, like this is very, very clear.
00:46:44.000 They're very clear prescriptions.
00:46:46.000 And then there are some issues that are a little bit gray that people sometimes have slight differing opinions on.
00:46:50.000 But the Protestant church has allowed us to slide down this slope for a long time.
00:46:57.000 Let's say a trans person comes in and goes, well, I don't think that I don't think that it's sinful.
00:47:02.000 I don't think God makes mistakes.
00:47:04.000 And God made me with a brain that, you know, I believe that I'm a male trapped in a female's body or I believe I'm a female trapped in a male's body.
00:47:12.000 Well, let's say, what are you supposed to do?
00:47:14.000 Take it to your elders, take it to the pastor.
00:47:16.000 What if this person takes it to a female pastor leading the church?
00:47:20.000 What is she going to say?
00:47:22.000 Well, yeah, be that as it may, you may think that, but God's word says X.
00:47:25.000 Yeah, you first.
00:47:27.000 What does God say about a lead female pastor at a church?
00:47:31.000 Right?
00:47:32.000 You can't.
00:47:32.000 It's a hard constant.
00:47:33.000 And that's from understanding.
00:47:34.000 There's too much of that.
00:47:35.000 Yeah, there are lots of great roles.
00:47:36.000 And just, hey, you know, we talk about it in the secular world, in the police department, the military.
00:47:40.000 Lots of great roles.
00:47:41.000 Just, you know, sorry.
00:47:44.000 That's our mantle to carry.
00:47:45.000 And by the way, the funny thing is it's God's prescription.
00:47:50.000 And it's so clear as to why.
00:47:52.000 Like, people go like, oh, Timothy 2.
00:47:53.000 It's like, yeah, but you can just go a little bit further in Timothy.
00:47:55.000 And it talks about how women, the reason why is that they are more prone to deception, to being manipulated.
00:48:00.000 And you know where you see that?
00:48:01.000 Advertising.
00:48:02.000 You, of course, see that.
00:48:04.000 You see infomercials designed largely to cater to women.
00:48:08.000 You see marketing largely designed to cater.
00:48:10.000 Women are more influenceable through marketing.
00:48:13.000 You see it by women bitching about the pink text.
00:48:15.000 That is a perfect case.
00:48:16.000 Just Venus razors are more expensive.
00:48:18.000 They're pink.
00:48:19.000 Buy a black razor.
00:48:21.000 It's right next to it.
00:48:22.000 But I want the pink razor because women are more prone to manipulate.
00:48:26.000 How do you know?
00:48:27.000 Women, how do they fight their wars?
00:48:29.000 They're not fighting them with axes.
00:48:31.000 They will manipulate.
00:48:32.000 It's a war of words.
00:48:33.000 It's a war of creating clicks, right?
00:48:35.000 And so God says this is why they shouldn't be in this position of leadership.
00:48:38.000 This is how God ordained it.
00:48:39.000 Men will rule over the congregation.
00:48:42.000 And there are other roles that are appropriate for women.
00:48:44.000 And there are other places that are appropriate for women as wise counsel and how you're supposed to bring it up.
00:48:48.000 But when you just dismiss that, because, well, most women are the ones who bring the kids to Sunday school.
00:48:53.000 You don't have a leg to stand on when you tell someone the LGBTQ AIP doesn't have a role in our church because you're doing it yourself.
00:48:58.000 Next chat.
00:48:59.000 All right.
00:48:59.000 Next chat.
00:49:01.000 Question for Pops Crowder from Lodge Black.
00:49:03.000 There you go.
00:49:04.000 What were some of the best ways you helped direct the energy of your boys when they were young?
00:49:08.000 I have a wild one-year-old, and that is only getting crazier.
00:49:10.000 The beatings.
00:49:12.000 Frequent.
00:49:13.000 You know, I was just talking about this with my wife the other day.
00:49:16.000 She didn't understand.
00:49:17.000 Well, she'd be on the phone and in the other room and she would hear bodies hitting the floor.
00:49:23.000 And she didn't get it.
00:49:24.000 And it was just, you know this, Gerald.
00:49:26.000 You've got three wild men at home.
00:49:28.000 They have to have a way to purge that.
00:49:31.000 But really, they're saying, hey, dad, am I worthy to protect the village?
00:49:35.000 Am I tough enough?
00:49:36.000 Do I have the stuff?
00:49:38.000 Show me how to control this, what's going to be a lot of strength in the future.
00:49:42.000 And let's bridle it in and let's be able to handle that.
00:49:45.000 And rough housing is so important for boys.
00:49:47.000 And we're fighting for girls too because you have twins, same age, same level.
00:49:50.000 They're both as rowdy.
00:49:52.000 But you've got to have ways to purge that energy.
00:49:56.000 And I think dads are the most important way to do it.
00:50:00.000 There's no other way to do it.
00:50:02.000 I don't think women can really understand that.
00:50:04.000 It's a different thing.
00:50:05.000 I mean, that's something that you mentioned a minute ago, the education system, right?
00:50:09.000 The education system is designed for women to sit across from each other and communicate.
00:50:14.000 Just that they have to sit still for such a long period of time and just focus.
00:50:18.000 Men are very active and they want to explore.
00:50:20.000 They want to create.
00:50:21.000 They want to destroy.
00:50:22.000 They want to understand how things work.
00:50:25.000 And they're going to look to climb the tallest thing that they can find to climb.
00:50:28.000 It's like, can I protect the village thing?
00:50:29.000 They're going to look to do all these things.
00:50:31.000 And you do want to give them space to be able to do that without destroying stuff.
00:50:35.000 And then all themselves and practice, you know, okay, now you have to bridle that.
00:50:38.000 Now you do have to sit down for a little while and do some work because you're going to have to think through things and it's going to take time and you're going to have to build that in.
00:50:45.000 But to think that boys and girls are just going to be the same, it's just not.
00:50:50.000 It's just not a thing.
00:50:51.000 I will tell you what's the most difficult thing, I think, raising a young boy right now.
00:50:54.000 And that's that the world up until recently was a supremely dangerous place.
00:50:59.000 And so a big part of being a father would be sort of walking your son through this danger while keeping them safe, but allowing enough of that danger to get close to him, to touch him so that he learns how to deal with it.
00:51:10.000 Considering that things are so comfortable now and they're not really out there hunting, they're not having to go actually kill their food.
00:51:18.000 The most difficult thing, I think, is the controlled defeat that you kind of have to teach your son.
00:51:24.000 You have to, it's like, okay, you want him to get his ass kicked figuratively in a controlled environment where he learns what it's like to be overpowered, where he learns what it is to face danger and how practice can help you overcome it and vigilance.
00:51:39.000 But you almost feel like you're hurting your son when you do it because you have to put him in a scenario where eventually he's going to have to learn.
00:51:47.000 And no one wants to do that because you want to protect them.
00:51:49.000 And it's your job to protect a girl.
00:51:51.000 Why?
00:51:52.000 Because we've known that they wouldn't be able to face the same dangers.
00:51:54.000 But your job is to raise a little warrior, for lack of a better term, who is capable of facing those dangers so they can raise their own son.
00:52:01.000 And that's a really hard thing to do because no one likes to watch their kid lose or have a tough day or try something and fail.
00:52:12.000 But that is your job as a father to do it in a way that is productive and safe so that they don't face the real danger out there, you know, completely cold.
00:52:21.000 And I would say that's the hardest thing I've found with a young boy.
00:52:24.000 I think you're going to find too, Gerald, maybe Noodles a little further down the trail.
00:52:28.000 He has some older kids.
00:52:29.000 Yeah.
00:52:31.000 The desire to stick your nose in when there's bullying or your kids being, because you've been through all that and you know how it's supposed to work and you want to right or wrong.
00:52:38.000 You can sometimes hurt them more.
00:52:40.000 I mean, I stuck my nose in with both my boys when I probably should have let them fight their own battles.
00:52:45.000 And, you know, I wanted to pick up business with father on the other side.
00:52:49.000 I know, right?
00:52:50.000 Because you're turning out a little hoodlum.
00:52:52.000 Yeah.
00:52:53.000 Noodles got some older ones, I think.
00:52:54.000 How old's your oldest son?
00:52:56.000 He's 11.
00:52:56.000 11.
00:52:57.000 So yeah, he's probably.
00:52:58.000 You know what, Noodles?
00:52:59.000 I'll come over.
00:53:00.000 I'll beat up your son.
00:53:01.000 He'll feel the failure thing we've been talking about and I'll do it in a controlled way.
00:53:05.000 I beat them up plenty.
00:53:06.000 Okay.
00:53:08.000 You haven't had any of that happen at school yet where there's a kid.
00:53:10.000 Hateful kid that's looking.
00:53:12.000 Yeah.
00:53:13.000 My sons are close enough in age that they stick up for each other pretty well.
00:53:17.000 And they all carry.
00:53:18.000 It's weird.
00:53:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:53:20.000 Learn them young.
00:53:21.000 Yep.
00:53:22.000 So yeah, I think that's an important thing.
00:53:25.000 And sports is a big part of purging.
00:53:28.000 It can take a lot of different forms, but some way to be violent in a controlled manner is huge.
00:53:35.000 I agree.
00:53:35.000 Oh, we went past.
00:53:36.000 Okay, well, let's take two more chats.
00:53:38.000 I'm going to ask you, it's super quick.
00:53:39.000 Yeah, how early is too early for jiu-jitsu?
00:53:42.000 Because I know that's a really good way to do it.
00:53:43.000 And you've talked about it before.
00:53:44.000 I've heard different schools of thought.
00:53:46.000 What I was always told was like six.
00:53:47.000 Okay.
00:53:48.000 Because they're old enough to sort of understand it.
00:53:51.000 And typically, if you get a kid into it young, it's something they have to do.
00:53:54.000 Yeah.
00:53:55.000 But I've also heard some other people say like four.
00:53:57.000 So I do with both my son and daughter.
00:53:59.000 Like we just started, you know, at four doing like jiu-jitsu games like crazy horses where they learn how to take the back and kind of stay in tight.
00:54:05.000 You know, you do some games like, you know, the takedown game where it's basically a tackle, right?
00:54:09.000 And distract them, clap, look over there.
00:54:10.000 The Gracies have a good program with that bullyproof where they just think they're playing a game.
00:54:15.000 But as far as actually getting them in an organized school, I've heard six, but I don't know.
00:54:23.000 My thing is, I'll never, my dad did a really good job of this where he supported us in whatever it was that we wanted to do, provided it wasn't, you know, antithetical to our principles or dangerous.
00:54:34.000 You know, we went a different route.
00:54:36.000 My dad played sports at a high level and I was doing some voice work shit.
00:54:41.000 Where I think that encouraging, oh my iPad just heard me say the S-I-R-I.
00:54:48.000 Encouraging them and what it is that they're good at, they're passionate about.
00:54:51.000 But my kids, I've always said they'll have to get the blue belt in jiu-jitsu.
00:54:54.000 And then after that, if they don't want to do that, they can stop.
00:54:56.000 How long does that typically take to get the blue belt?
00:54:58.000 I don't know because adults, it's like around three years typically.
00:55:00.000 So for kids, it might be a little longer.
00:55:02.000 It's a different belt system for kids, but the equivalent for a kid.
00:55:05.000 Yeah, the equivalent, meaning they have to get to the point where they can defend themselves.
00:55:09.000 It's super important.
00:55:10.000 And the reason I'm asking.
00:55:11.000 It's not about the belt.
00:55:12.000 It's about the skills.
00:55:14.000 Yes, exactly right.
00:55:15.000 And the confidence that they work against the untrained opponent every time.
00:55:19.000 It's not a sport.
00:55:20.000 It's a skill set like reading or doing basic addition or subtraction.
00:55:23.000 It's something I always defend themselves.
00:55:24.000 And I'm a very big guy.
00:55:26.000 I've always been much bigger than my peers.
00:55:27.000 I've always, I very rarely have ever felt threatened in a situation that I didn't think I couldn't handle.
00:55:32.000 But this feels like just some of the stuff we did.
00:55:35.000 And this was years ago.
00:55:36.000 It felt like a superpower.
00:55:37.000 Right.
00:55:37.000 You know, it's like, I've just, like, I just know how to deal with these situations.
00:55:41.000 And I had like five seconds of training.
00:55:43.000 Yeah.
00:55:43.000 You know, I can't imagine what going through years of it would make you feel like.
00:55:46.000 You know what's neat about jiu-jitsu is a lot of people think, well, what if the bad guys know it?
00:55:50.000 You know what?
00:55:51.000 It's much less likely because the douchebags can't handle jiu-jitsu.
00:55:54.000 They quit.
00:55:55.000 They come in.
00:55:56.000 They come in and they think they're going to be the man and they get tapped.
00:56:00.000 Sure, those guys squeak through.
00:56:02.000 You get the thugs.
00:56:03.000 But when some gaming nerd chokes a guy out who's a bouncer at a local club, he goes, oh, let's go again.
00:56:12.000 The same thing happens over and over.
00:56:14.000 He quits.
00:56:14.000 Or he starts that silly stuff like, if this were a real fight, or like the Krav Maga guy who said, if I had you, I'd get your jobs.
00:56:21.000 You grab your balls.
00:56:21.000 And you said, okay.
00:56:22.000 Remember, Stephen said to him, okay, we're about to roll in a minute here.
00:56:25.000 New rules.
00:56:26.000 I can do it too.
00:56:27.000 Ready?
00:56:27.000 Let's go.
00:56:28.000 Wait, Either on you in two seconds and poke your eyes and grab your.
00:56:34.000 And it doesn't have to be just, it doesn't have to be jiu-jitsu.
00:56:36.000 Like, judo is great.
00:56:38.000 My point is you're left with people you can trust.
00:56:40.000 Yes.
00:56:40.000 People that respect.
00:56:41.000 Because if Tim catches me and I've got a tap, he knows that he's got to trust that I'll let him go when he taps, right?
00:56:50.000 No, exactly.
00:56:50.000 And so it's a whole different group of people.
00:56:52.000 And the real thugs end up getting filtered out.
00:56:55.000 I mean, honestly, you accomplish the same thing with if the kid was a good wrestler and a few months of legitimate boxing or kickboxing and judo.
00:57:04.000 I just say because jiu-jitsu is something that's pretty ubiquitous right now and structured.
00:57:08.000 So you know what you're getting.
00:57:10.000 That's why we say a belt because a blue belt signifies something, or at least it used to signifies the ability to handle yourself with a capable person.
00:57:18.000 And like when someone says, well, what if the person on the street knows it?
00:57:21.000 You're still better off knowing it than not knowing it.
00:57:23.000 No, you know what I mean?
00:57:24.000 At that point, you're still better off being able to defend yourself against most, if not all.
00:57:27.000 Yeah.
00:57:28.000 But the most important thing, and people miss this, is jiu-jitsu is tested 100% every single day.
00:57:34.000 100%.
00:57:35.000 You can't test kickboxing.
00:57:36.000 You can't kick me in the head full wind and me try to defend it as a real world.
00:57:40.000 You can't even practice boxing that way.
00:57:42.000 Jiu-Jitsu gives you confidence because it passed the test daily.
00:57:47.000 Against guys that know you're trying to submit them, yet you still catch them.
00:57:50.000 The guy in the street has no chance.
00:57:52.000 It's like, Gerald, you're going against super athletes at the collegiate level.
00:57:56.000 Some guy in the street is nothing compared to these behemoths you've been battling.
00:58:02.000 Well, that's the thing when people say, like, I do Kung Fu or Karma Ga.
00:58:04.000 Okay, you played football, right?
00:58:06.000 How good do you think you would have been at football if you sat down and they told you you played tight end?
00:58:11.000 Okay.
00:58:12.000 And they told you the plays and how you were going to run and they told you how you're going to catch the ball, but you never did it in a game.
00:58:18.000 How well do you think you would do your first game?
00:58:20.000 That's what every single kung fu and krav maga person believes.
00:58:23.000 They've never actually done it.
00:58:24.000 Forever, never, never.
00:58:25.000 They go, it's too dangerous.
00:58:26.000 It's too dangerous to do.
00:58:28.000 It's like, okay, so you sit and you learn it and everything is done at half speed.
00:58:32.000 Now, is there some value to awareness?
00:58:33.000 Sure.
00:58:34.000 Would you be better than someone who didn't sit and learn play after play?
00:58:38.000 In other words, if you sit and you learn how to do football without playing it every day for several years, it's going to be useless.
00:58:44.000 I'm sorry.
00:58:45.000 Well, you're going to be better than someone who never learned it if they put you on the field.
00:58:48.000 You're not going to be as capable as someone who's actually done it.
00:58:51.000 And that's the problem with a lot of the martial arts out there.
00:58:53.000 It's like, it's kind of been proven now.
00:58:55.000 And I get it, the two, they'll be like, oh, it's not in a, it's not, it doesn't take place in a soft mat.
00:58:59.000 Sure.
00:58:59.000 And if you get punched in the face, but the difference is jiu-jitsu and judo teaches you how to deal with that.
00:59:04.000 A lot of people don't.
00:59:05.000 I'll give you a brief history lesson.
00:59:06.000 The guy as a punch.
00:59:08.000 Yeah.
00:59:08.000 Well, Jagoro Khano was the guy who created judo.
00:59:10.000 Now, he was Japanese.
00:59:11.000 I think he was a mathematician.
00:59:12.000 He was like a university professor.
00:59:13.000 He did was he took Japanese jiu-jitsu, which was the open-handed samurai art, and he was like, Yeah, but I've never, we've never done any of this.
00:59:19.000 He's like, So we don't really know how this would go.
00:59:22.000 He's like, So we need to, like in any other sport or endeavor, we need to develop something where we can actually practice it at full speed against an unwilling opponent, but still make sure it's effective.
00:59:32.000 And that's why he distilled it to judo, going, We can throw each other really hard, which we know the effects that would have.
00:59:37.000 So we'll put down soft mats so that we can do it every day.
00:59:40.000 Yeah.
00:59:40.000 We're going to show people how to choke and how to break limbs because we know what effect that has, but we're going to have a tap system so we can practice.
00:59:47.000 We can get as close to we can with deadly, you know, maiming techniques while still being able to train the next day.
00:59:54.000 Right.
00:59:54.000 That's what he created.
00:59:55.000 And by the way, the original judo and jiu-jitsu were very, very similar and the rule sets changed, but that's the basis of it.
01:00:01.000 So it's not like this guy missed it.
01:00:03.000 He had the ultra-deadly jujit open-handed jiu-jitsu way of the samurai.
01:00:07.000 And he's like, yeah, none of us would be able to do this.
01:00:09.000 We all get dead.
01:00:10.000 And the guy was a scientist.
01:00:11.000 All right.
01:00:12.000 I remember being out with your mom one night, and there's some guy who was popping.
01:00:15.000 He was obviously drunk and just kind of getting loud.
01:00:17.000 And I said, oh, gosh, I'd just love to.
01:00:19.000 And she said to me, what gives you, what makes you think that you're so able to go over?
01:00:23.000 I said, I don't know.
01:00:24.000 I don't know 100%.
01:00:26.000 But other men play golf.
01:00:28.000 I fight a death match with people half my age four days a week.
01:00:32.000 And so I have a confidence that I could probably subdue a drunk.
01:00:36.000 Right.
01:00:36.000 But it doesn't mean it's going to work every time.
01:00:38.000 No.
01:00:39.000 But there is a confidence.
01:00:40.000 You know, Gerald, you do something at a high level.
01:00:43.000 The guy in the street is a different, different kettle of fish.
01:00:46.000 It's a lot easier.
01:00:47.000 Yeah, that's absolutely right.
01:00:49.000 All right.
01:00:49.000 Let's grab a final chat.
01:00:51.000 Who are we sending people to after this?
01:00:52.000 Is it still Real America?
01:00:53.000 It'll be Devorah Darkins at this point.
01:00:55.000 Devoy Darkins.
01:00:56.000 Okay.
01:00:56.000 If you have a good final chat, then we can play this out here.
01:00:59.000 All right.
01:01:00.000 Final chat from Pedro, the not really Mexican 15.
01:01:03.000 Question for the crew.
01:01:04.000 How will we survive as a race if white women refuse to acknowledge their suicidal empathy and push other women into a life of misery with higher crime rates against women?
01:01:13.000 Hashtag arena.
01:01:15.000 Hold on, keep that up.
01:01:16.000 Refuse to acknowledge our suicidal and push other women into a life of misery with higher crime rates.
01:01:20.000 Okay, so they mean white women, but you're saying survive as a race.
01:01:25.000 Do you mean suicidal empathy in letting in sort of like massive waves of migration?
01:01:31.000 Just all the different policies that would leave them open to a lack of people.
01:01:36.000 I'm going to go out 75 times from jail, that sort of thing.
01:01:39.000 No police.
01:01:40.000 Yeah.
01:01:40.000 Well, here's the thing.
01:01:41.000 There's the individual solution.
01:01:42.000 There's a societal solution.
01:01:44.000 The individual solution is one that feminists would also reject, which is live in an area with a good man who will protect and provide for you.
01:01:54.000 You need a protector.
01:01:54.000 You need a provider.
01:01:56.000 So if you are a woman who is in a life where you are a homemaker, you are a stay-at-home wife, mom, and this man is tasked with and accepts the responsibility of providing and protecting you, the likelihood of you finding yourself alone on a subway in an urban area is far lower.
01:02:11.000 It doesn't mean that it won't happen, but I'm saying there are individual steps that women can take to preserve themselves.
01:02:18.000 And that, by the way, would look very much like a traditional nuclear family as prescribed by patriarchy, which a lot of them hate.
01:02:26.000 Societally, it's not going to go well for women.
01:02:30.000 Now, the check is men voting.
01:02:33.000 It's always been men voting.
01:02:35.000 White men in this country are the only reason that presidents, Republican presidents are elected, period, ever.
01:02:41.000 And that seems to be standing relatively firm.
01:02:44.000 As far as women, though, where there are enough of them, they vote for policy as a voting bloc, not all, not all at all, they will collectively vote their own demise.
01:02:54.000 So women have to start policing.
01:02:56.000 That means that the woman who has made the right decisions herself, let's say she has a good husband, a good family, traditional roles, she's involved in a church, right?
01:03:04.000 She keeps, she ideally carries, by the way, herself.
01:03:08.000 She is going to have to step out of her comfort zone to correct the women who are voting for the demise of Western women.
01:03:15.000 That is very out of character for women.
01:03:18.000 So the biggest problem that feminism faces is not just young, dumb women who are impressionable, like we just heard Afrin or whatever her name is.
01:03:28.000 It's that it's not in the nature of good women to hold them accountable, admonish them, and correct them.
01:03:37.000 Men still do that.
01:03:38.000 Like, here's the thing.
01:03:39.000 No matter what you do, we still have patriarchs.
01:03:43.000 Men.
01:03:45.000 We have generals.
01:03:46.000 We have colonels.
01:03:47.000 We have bosses.
01:03:48.000 We have MVPs.
01:03:50.000 We have captain of the football team.
01:03:52.000 We have general ballbusters.
01:03:54.000 Yeah, we have those because there's no escaping it.
01:03:56.000 There's no escaping it when you're facing a very real, a very physical challenge that can be quantified, you know, either on a scoreboard or on a body count or in a bank account.
01:04:08.000 You don't get to just break down something in the theoretical, oh, down with the idea.
01:04:14.000 Imagine being in a work scenario and like, screw you, boss.
01:04:16.000 I'm going to do it my way.
01:04:17.000 Well, you're fired and now you're not able to eat.
01:04:20.000 Imagine being in war and doing what these seditious senators told you to do.
01:04:23.000 And I'm defying orders.
01:04:25.000 Well, now you're court-martialed and you're out.
01:04:27.000 Imagine not following the play on a football field.
01:04:30.000 Well, I don't want to, and you're now riding the bench and you're probably not on the team, right?
01:04:34.000 Because other men would be like, okay, cool.
01:04:35.000 You go do your thing.
01:04:36.000 We're not going to let you affect us.
01:04:38.000 We're okay following a leader.
01:04:40.000 We're okay.
01:04:40.000 We understand that's the order of things.
01:04:42.000 We naturally organize ourselves into hierarchies with typically very little bitching.
01:04:48.000 Women, ironically, as a product of the patriarchy, had matriarchs as well because that was an assigned role through the patriarchy.
01:04:58.000 What do I mean by that?
01:04:58.000 I mean, we lived in a patriarchal society where men, still as the enforcers, would go, you, listen to your mom.
01:05:07.000 You, if I hear you giving lip to your grandmother, when I come home, it's going to be a problem.
01:05:11.000 So there were still matriarchs who also coached other women.
01:05:16.000 And in getting rid of the patriarchy and in destroying the family, feminists have actually ruined the idea of a matriarchy internally in our units.
01:05:25.000 And you don't have them.
01:05:27.000 You don't have them the way that you used to.
01:05:29.000 You will have them, for example, in some other families, you know, people who come from Latin American cultures, you know, it's still a strong thing.
01:05:35.000 The chikleta is a real thing.
01:05:37.000 I would imagine the same thing for people from the Eastern Bloc where they respect their elders.
01:05:41.000 Probably the same thing I would imagine in cultures like Japan, though I'm not sure.
01:05:44.000 I'm sure Elaine can inform me.
01:05:46.000 In trying to destroy patriarchy, we've also gotten rid of the wise women who would keep other women accountable.
01:05:54.000 And why did they do that?
01:05:55.000 Well, you just heard why.
01:05:57.000 Because the matriarch, the wise woman, would undoubtedly, almost invariably, tell young women, hey, I've lived a lot of years.
01:06:05.000 This is what matters.
01:06:06.000 It's not a paycheck.
01:06:07.000 It's not a degree.
01:06:09.000 It is family.
01:06:10.000 It is watching your children grow up.
01:06:11.000 It is watching your grandchildren grow up.
01:06:13.000 You're not going to be able to do what your husband does.
01:06:16.000 Thank God you don't have to go to war.
01:06:18.000 So your job is to get him ready for when he does.
01:06:21.000 Be that militarily, professionally, whatever it is.
01:06:26.000 The guy is supposed to go out and take the licks.
01:06:28.000 That doesn't mean he's supposed to come home and give you licks, but he's supposed to go out and take the licks.
01:06:32.000 And one of the privileges that is afforded to that is coming home to a peacemaker.
01:06:37.000 And that could only be made if there was a matriarch coaching the next generation of women.
01:06:41.000 You've gotten rid of that.
01:06:43.000 Men still have it because there's no way around it.
01:06:46.000 Women have gotten rid of it in an attempt to get rid of the patriarchy.
01:06:50.000 So that has to be fixed.
01:06:52.000 And that means that women who follow that prescription in their own lives are going to have to reach beyond their bubble and reach other women who have not heard this at all because they've grown up with whatever you want to do.
01:07:08.000 And that's the big difference.
01:07:09.000 That really is the big difference.
01:07:10.000 How does Gen Z, how do the Gen Z males go so right and Gen Z females go so left?
01:07:16.000 Well, let me walk you through this.
01:07:18.000 Say you take a Gen Z male.
01:07:19.000 And this, we were always worried about this, by the way, right?
01:07:21.000 We were worried that we were going to have a generation, multiple generations of pansies because they wouldn't use a red pen, right?
01:07:26.000 That would hurt people's feelings.
01:07:27.000 And everyone got a participation trophy.
01:07:29.000 That applies for a while in grade school until people get into any realm.
01:07:34.000 Young men get into any realm that is competitive, right?
01:07:36.000 So what happened was this idea we were afraid of, hey, you can do whatever you want and it's all okay.
01:07:42.000 Guess what?
01:07:43.000 Young boy is going to find out that that's a bunch of horseshit as soon as he gets punched in the face by a bully and has no answers for it.
01:07:50.000 That is going to happen.
01:07:52.000 He's going to go, oh, I guess I can't just do anything I want.
01:07:55.000 And I guess not everybody is equal.
01:07:57.000 And I guess there is a power differential and I guess there is a hierarchy in life.
01:08:00.000 Why?
01:08:01.000 Because I'm wearing it on my shirt.
01:08:03.000 It's leaking down my shirt right now.
01:08:05.000 Or getting cut from the team or not making the cut in a business or going through a test in the military and being assigned to a job that he's most capable for.
01:08:15.000 You can't pump that message to a young man and counteract male nature because it still exists and you still see it today in our units.
01:08:24.000 Women can, though.
01:08:26.000 Young women can get, you're perfect, you're a princess, hey, anything you want to do.
01:08:31.000 And before they realize that that game is one they don't want to play, they can make it through their biological window where they valued all the wrong things and no one corrected them.
01:08:43.000 It's a world that exists in the theoretical.
01:08:46.000 And that's why you see so many women, not all, not all, not all, who are delusional in a way that you don't see as commonly with young men.
01:08:54.000 And so the only way to fix that is for women, good women, to reestablish their roles as matriarchs and call all of these other women on their shit.
01:09:05.000 We can't do it.
01:09:07.000 We can't, men can't do it.
01:09:08.000 We've been told, yay, you don't have a vagina, you don't have an opinion.
01:09:11.000 They change that to, if you don't have a uterus, you don't have a lot of to if you don't identify as a woman, you can't have an opinion.
01:09:16.000 Okay, whatever.
01:09:16.000 That's how delusional it is.
01:09:18.000 It's proving my point.
01:09:20.000 Women, if you believe what we're talking about to be true, it's not enough to believe it to be true and live it in your own life.
01:09:27.000 You have a greater responsibility to evangelize that than even men because there's been such an absence of it.
01:09:36.000 And I mean that if you want to turn this around at all, you have to, you have to reclaim your role as a matriarch and evangelize.
01:09:43.000 And what does evangelize mean?
01:09:45.000 It comes to evangelize means let people know, right?
01:09:49.000 People who used to go and evangelize, there's a Caesar.
01:09:51.000 It was, hey, good news.
01:09:52.000 Hey, there's a good news.
01:09:54.000 There's a new Caesar.
01:09:55.000 Great.
01:09:55.000 He's going to give you this.
01:09:56.000 He's going to give you this.
01:09:56.000 He's going to do this.
01:09:57.000 He wants aqueducts, whatever the hell.
01:09:59.000 Isn't that cool?
01:10:01.000 Here are the rules.
01:10:03.000 Evangelizing wasn't, that's why it's so stupid when Christians go, have you heard the good news?
01:10:06.000 Jesus is your friend.
01:10:07.000 What does that mean?
01:10:08.000 That doesn't get context.
01:10:09.000 That's a starting point.
01:10:11.000 Evangelizing included the benefits, the blessings, right?
01:10:16.000 Along with the expectations.
01:10:19.000 The solution to this problem is good Christian conservative women need to evangelize to other women in a way that they have not for at least half a century.
01:10:34.000 If you don't do it, it's only going to get worse.
01:10:38.000 Happy Thanksgiving.
01:10:39.000 Enjoy the show tomorrow.
01:10:40.000 We'll see you Monday.
01:10:41.000 You have a lot of these directors, a lot of these actors are into satanic cults or weird stuff, man.
01:10:46.000 Super weird stuff.
01:10:46.000 And all of that turned out to be real.
01:10:51.000 He's one of the best debaters that I have seen, and he covers a wide range of topics from Orthodox Christianity all the way to the occult in Hollywood.
01:10:59.000 And that is Mr. Jay Dyer.
01:11:02.000 You've written several books, and I think they're all titled Esoteric Hollywood.
01:11:06.000 Is it conspiracy theories, or is it like really kind of stuff that's going on in Hollywood that we should be more aware of?
01:11:11.000 It's all the above: the Pentagon, the military-industrial complex, CIA- you know, what's actually going on in Hollywood that isn't just intelligence agencies but also covers cults.
01:11:21.000 So, the only people left to care about biblical theology were people who were going into evangelical Baptist seminaries.
01:11:27.000 And the conservative Presbyterians or Lutherans were just such a minority throughout the decades of the last century that all those universities and seminaries that were evangelical were just bought off or, you know, propagandized.
01:11:42.000 Most people don't know why they believe what they believe.
01:11:44.000 Remember that.