In this episode of The Lineup Live, host Josh Firestein and co-hosts Kat Kownacki and Morgan Freeman debate whether or not Black Americans are the most generous human beings in the world. They also discuss race baiting and what they call Black Activism Fatigue.
00:02:25.000Welcome, by the way, I should say Bongino Army, formerly Bongino Army, coming in from Vince, which Vince comes from the name Vincente in Latin, in all the Romance languages.
00:02:34.000Are based in Latin and roughly translates to...
00:02:38.000It's just there are colloquialisms that are different in different languages.
00:02:43.000So we're going to have an honest conversation today in the theme of this debate later that I'll have on Pierce Morgan about race today.
00:02:49.000We're going to have that conversation.
00:02:51.000Are black people the most generous human beings ever?
00:03:23.000If you look at the relationship to Black Lives Matter.
00:03:25.000So I know it's a bunch of white guys discussing it, but we're going to have an honest, frank conversation about race, and I encourage you to comment as well.
00:03:32.000We're also going to have a frank conversation about the revelations from Jake Tapper's new book, because no one saw this coming, along with the slowest growing cancer ever.
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00:06:56.000People in this country are tired of doing this and tiptoeing.
00:07:00.000Well, I say this, but please don't try and say that I mean this.
00:07:02.000You've been saying racism, and we've talked about this, but we are actually at the point where people who would never even consider giving money to someone...
00:07:09.000Who shouted the N-word at a five-year-old.
00:08:03.000Very blatant effort to basically send a message, most exemplified by Vance and Musk and others, that what we really need from you women are more children.
00:08:58.000Now, it's not no interest, but it's certainly a lessened interest, and let me explain to you why.
00:09:02.000Paid family leave suggests that we continue with the current power structures that be, you know, systemic problems, like you guys often like to discuss, like doubling the workforce overnight as we did with women's lib in the 60s and 70s when we created a dual-income household that now seems to be a necessity where we thereby offload and outsource.
00:09:22.000The most important job, as many of you have said, didn't you say something about it takes a village?
00:09:39.000That includes, by the way, the numbers that we'll get to in a second with illegal aliens who have a disproportionate number of children in comparison to native-born American citizens.
00:09:46.000The last time that we were above replacement rates here in the United States, 1971.
00:09:52.000Paid leave doesn't solve the root cause of the problem.
00:09:55.000If the root cause is, hey, a lot of women, a lot of families would like to be able to have one family member staying home, raising their own children, as opposed to a day worker.
00:10:10.000I mean, you go down the list of all the programs that support...
00:10:15.000Child-rearing and the care of children and create some safety net for women who are in the workforce, the formal workforce, as well as raising children.
00:10:27.000So this is another performance about concerns they allegedly have for family life.
00:10:35.000But if you had read the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025, despite Trump saying he knew nothing about it, if you had read it, it's all in there.
00:12:16.000But, you know, one of the reasons why our economy did so much better than comparable advanced economies across the world is because we actually had a replenishment because we had a lot of immigrants legally and undocumented.
00:12:30.000Who had a, you know, larger than normal, by American standards, family.
00:12:37.000So this is just another one of their, you know, make America great again by returning to the...
00:12:53.000So to be clear, Hillary Clinton believed that the United States, that you are better off, that we are a more successful country because we have actually achieved replenishment through illegal aliens.
00:13:07.000She just described replacement theory and tried to tell you that your problems don't add up.
00:13:14.000I think we have two diametrically opposed positions.
00:13:18.000One, the conservative, the traditional position, saying, yeah, we actually in this country should favor nuclear families and child-rearing and having one parent at home and having as many children as we can, because it's also fulfilling.
00:13:30.000It's also one of life's greatest experiences, and it allows us to pass down our values and our legacy.
00:13:35.000She says, actually, all of that is backwards.
00:14:38.000You tell me if you agree with Hillary Clinton's very clearly proposed prescription, which is completely permissible in the land of white bitches, or if you disagree.
00:14:51.000You're a white supremacist enforcing patriarchal nuclear families.
00:14:54.000Honestly, Hillary is one of the worst people to speak publicly ever, just because not only is she incorrect, but she's also unappealing, unattractive, unlikable, and...
00:16:48.000I wanted to just say that is some of the most crazy veering off culturally in the wrong direction stuff I've ever seen from Hillary Clinton.
00:16:56.000Just saying those things like they want us to return to being a Christian nation.
00:17:29.000And that is heartbreaking that we have developed a society that pushes that as opposed to encouraging and saying, look, I understand it's hard economically to do it sometimes, so you have to plan these things out.
00:17:39.000We should be telling our children, hey, This is the goal.
00:17:41.000And I understand that some women, you find yourselves in that situation through no choice of your own, maybe at this point in time.
00:19:58.000And she posted the statement on X saying, today my office has charged Congresswoman McIver with violation of Title 18 United States Code Section 111A, one for assaulting, impeding, and interfering with law enforcement.
00:20:11.000So for those of you who have forgotten, this is the assault that they claimed never happened.
00:20:17.000Well, first they said they were invited there.
00:21:22.000I bet you you shoved someone five times, we'd go uno, dos, tres, cuatro, cinco, bitch.
00:21:26.000So, apparently, however, charging McIver for assaulting an officer, which is clearly caught on camera in a place where she was not supposed to be, would cross a red line.
00:21:39.000Charging her for the crime she committed would cross a red line according to $700,000, I believe, supported by AIPAC.
00:24:20.000By the way, the only reason that we are able to do this is because we are not streaming to YouTube, because they want us to walk on eggshells, and we are not going to.
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00:25:08.000So, Jeffries criticized the Ashley Babbitt settlement, who got, by the way, her family, I believe, $5 million, because she was shot by a Capitol Police officer.
00:25:20.000So it's crossing a red line to charge someone with assault, going into a government building, interfering, you know, kind of an insurrection.
00:25:28.000But with Ashley Babbitt and the family getting restitution, apparently this is a slap in the face to the true heroes who wore uniforms because now Hakeem Jeffries is pro-cop.
00:25:39.000And I support the position that the settlement was a slap in the face to the hard-working, courageous and brave men and women of the United States police force.
00:25:52.000This settlement is just an extension of what they've previously done, Violent felons.
00:26:00.000You put an old lady with cancer behind bars, your party.
00:26:03.000Violently attacked the Capitol on January 6th, including police officers, and now have all been pardoned and sent back to communities across the country.
00:26:24.000He's never denigrated the Democrat voter because he needs to win them over.
00:26:27.000That's why he has this new coalition of working class voters in the Rust Belt.
00:26:31.000A huge percentage of Hispanic voters, especially male Hispanic voters, Gen Z Hispanic males, the numbers are shocking how they overwhelmingly vote for Trump.
00:26:57.000There were plenty of people who were not violent who were invited in on a walking tour.
00:27:00.000How do they always line up with those in power while attacking you, the American taxpayer, the American voter, and then accuse you of punching down?
00:27:10.000And of course, his comments, Hakeem Jeffries, have been slow to reach many of his constituents in areas of the country that have been labeled by mainstream media as, you've heard of food deserts?
00:27:19.000Where apparently people in poor areas can't get food in the United States in 2025?
00:27:24.000Well, now many of them can't get news.
00:27:44.000In recently leaked medical photographs...
00:27:47.000It has been known that one Hakeem Jeffries has in fact had performed a medical procedure for the removal of one rib in order to folate himself news to the desert.
00:28:15.000I looked at him and I said, Brian Warner?
00:28:17.000Now, we're going to move on to this next story.
00:28:21.000Because like I said, we're done tiptoeing around this.
00:28:23.000So I don't know if you know this, but the Chicago mayor, Brandon Johnson, he just issued or made quite a lofty claim, I should say, about black people in comparison to other people, largely not black.
00:28:39.000He made this claim over the weekend and he kind of looks like a human bearded dragon.
00:28:43.000Some detractors that will push back on me and say, you know, the only thing that the mayor talks about is the hiring of black people.
00:28:50.000No, what I'm saying is, when you hire our people, we always look out for everybody else.
00:30:47.000Also, while we're talking about this, turns out a new study showed that white Americans are the least racist, meaning they had the least amount of group identity, which, you know, we've got to pump those numbers up.
00:30:58.000I don't know if that's legit or if white people are just so scared of being racist even when they're alone in an anonymous survey.
00:31:08.000I want you to consistently take what you are about to hear black people say as they make broad-stroke generalizations about black people and white people and just swap the races.
00:31:36.000If someone is going to make a case in an affirmative and generalized sense, proud black man because we, in general, then I can say, well, you, your words, in general, maybe need to come to terms with this problem in your community.
00:31:56.000On the flip side, I can say, well, we in general, for example, white people, tend to be more polite, tend to not do Kia challenges, knockout games, as a general rule, right?
00:32:57.000There's like 70% of your constituents that you're actively choosing not to represent and have any representation.
00:33:02.000Well, not any because you're just not saying it at least.
00:33:05.000You tend to choose black people because they're more generous, but it's like...
00:33:09.000What about the other 70% of people over here, though?
00:33:11.000Well, actually, yesterday, the Department of Justice, their civil rights division, sued the city of Chicago over alleged, not all, not all, not all, not all, racial discrimination in hiring.
00:33:20.000Not alleged when you admit it on camera.
00:33:22.000They're the most generous people in government?
00:35:44.000By the way, I actually had a friend who called me.
00:35:45.000He was like, yeah, and he didn't use American financing.
00:35:48.000What happened is he was already with another lender, and he called them up, and American financing kind of gave them a quote, and the other lender said, no, there's no way.
00:35:55.000They said, all right, well, okay, okay, we'll match it.
00:36:15.000So this whole story, right, this goes to, it's not about the WNBA, and I need to be clear about that because I know you wouldn't care if it wasn't.
00:36:45.000This is important because everyone's going to talk about Shiloh Hendricks screaming the N-word at a five-year-old, and I bet you that's always what they're going to try and bait you into.
00:36:53.000And you shouldn't do that anymore than you should call a five-year-old a little bastard.
00:36:56.000It's just not something you should do as a decent adult, okay?
00:36:59.000But that's not the conversation that we are having.
00:37:02.000If you look at the GoFundMe for Shiloh Hendricks, this is something that would not have occurred 10, 15, 20 years ago.
00:37:11.000After, allegedly, a kid who was white was stabbed in cold blood and you see people donating to the tune of six figures and you read the comments where there seems to be unapologetic hatred toward white people, you now have people who would never consider donating to someone who screamed the N-word at a toddler going,
00:37:29.000you know what, toss my money in there because I'm tired of constantly living in fear.
00:37:33.000Also, just scaling that back, most people, white, black, Asian, brown, They're concerned with their own problems and their families, right?
00:37:43.000You're more concerned with your problems than someone two cities over.
00:37:48.000However, for the last, well, decade, in the name of progress, everyone who is not black has been demanded to sit down and start caring about everyone else's problems and actually putting them before their own.
00:38:02.000And then, even if you go through that step and you try to do it, You still get burned anyway.
00:39:20.000They've had to move around multiple times.
00:39:22.000And I don't like racism any more than anybody else does.
00:39:25.000But let's just stop acting like there is a certain word that is like unheard of to call somebody on the planet and it inflicts some mortal wound deep in your soul.
00:39:59.000You're against, for example, a shopkeeper having to go bankrupt because he's been robbed nonstop like a revolving door so long as it's under $999.
00:40:08.000You believe those people should be locked up, right?
00:40:10.000Because you care about your fellow citizen shopkeeper regardless of race?
00:40:48.000She was fired from network television for asking, well, why is it racist?
00:40:52.000Is it blackface when my friends, you know, when we were young, Halloween, they were fans of Diana Ross and wanted to go dressed as her for Halloween?
00:40:58.000I don't think that's the same thing as a minstrel show.
00:41:04.000Did blackface, black arms, and stuff the banana down his pants simply to live out his fetish at live sporting events like dozens of times and everyone said, yeah, yeah, an apology is good enough.
00:41:16.000Well, to be clear, the banana was in the back.
00:43:03.000This all started by her committing what I guess they consider a flagrant foul, and then I'll give you context, on Angel Reese, who happens to be black, therefore something something, race war.
00:43:31.000People talking about how it's a double standard.
00:43:33.000And of course, if a black person did it, there would be outrage.
00:43:36.000And if a black player did it as though they don't do it all the time, they would be kicked out of the league.
00:43:41.000Here's what ESPN also left out before we get to Ryan Clark and our G3.
00:43:45.000We're the three or four seconds prior to the foul.
00:43:49.000Now, I'm not saying that any of this is flagrant, or any of this would be that serious in, you know, the NBA, like men's basketball, or as we commonly know it, basketball.
00:44:56.000We didn't have the clip there, but she got up and she was going to her with her hand like this and the one other player in the red tank top was stopping her.
00:45:46.000The Detroit smash and grabs and they came.
00:45:49.000Hey, by the way, I'll care when you guys make a profit.
00:45:52.000WNBA in 28 years, you haven't done it.
00:45:53.000Last year, you had increased revenues, but...
00:45:55.000$40 or $50 million loss, too, which was more than most years, so I don't think it matters.
00:46:00.000We have to go on to This Week in Biden and stuff.
00:46:02.000We have so much to get to, but on to the racist.
00:46:05.000So, former Pittsburgh Steeler Ryan Clark told Robert Griffin to stay out of the Caitlin Clark conversation because, and I'm not sure because he speaks a lot without saying anything.
00:46:17.000You know, that's often a sign of someone who's not as educated as they believe themselves to be, but as I understand his point, Griffin, Should shut up because he's married to a white woman?
00:46:28.000When RG3 jumps on to the hate train or to the angry train, it now follows along with what we saw from Keith Olbermann, what we saw from Dave Portnoy as they poured on to Andrew Reese to make her the villain and Caitlin Clark's heroic or hero.
00:46:47.000The one thing we know about RG3 is he's not having conversations at his home about what black women have to endure in this country, about what young black women and athletes like Angel Reese have had to deal with being on the opposite side of Caitlyn Clark's rise and ascension into stardom.
00:47:32.000You think that Caitlin Clark has had it easier?
00:47:35.000And I would be willing to bet that the conversations he's having with his white wife, and if he has children, would be, hey, look, these are the differences that we have, and you know what?
00:47:43.000It's very important that Daddy set a good example and stay with Mommy.
00:47:47.000I bet you they're actually having more productive conversations regarding race and the realistic, the statistically observable differences, and setting a better example for their children.
00:47:55.000But that again, that's me, Mr. Traditional, believing that...
00:47:58.000Two Christian parents might have more productive conversations centered around values than the color of their skin.
00:49:48.000I'm willing to bet that that guy, that RG3 is probably having to protect his white wife from the onslaught of angry world star hip-hop battalion going after her, calling him a race traitor.
00:49:59.000Just replace what he just said right now with what black women have to deal with with the black man.
00:50:06.000You know, dating or marrying outside of their race.
00:50:08.000What if we just said what white women have to deal with when they see a white man dating outside of his race?
00:50:37.000Muhammad Ali, well, back when he was young and liberal, before he became conservative and realized the error of his ways, he thought that those in interracial relationships should be executed.
00:50:45.000That's what he was with the Nation of Islam, just to be clear.
00:50:48.000Then he campaigned for Orrin Hatch and said, I was wrong about the whole race thing.
00:50:52.000Hey, that's something they don't teach you.
00:52:14.000I guess I'm a racist because I think it's kind of okay if you share values at this point.
00:52:19.000And I guess I'm kind of a racist because my personal preference is white women or Hispanic women, whatever.
00:52:24.000I guess there's no winning at this game.
00:52:26.000Of course, Ryan Clark also went on to bitch that Caitlin Clark was only popular because of, you guessed it, the implication, something, something, milk.
00:52:35.000I think Asia Wilson is the face of the league.
00:52:38.000Asia Wilson is the best player in the league.
00:52:40.000Kaitlyn Clark is the most important player in the WNBA.
00:52:45.000And a ton of her fandom has come along with some racial bias or some racial pieces to why people love her.
00:52:55.000You mean kind of like Tiger Woods in golf?
00:52:57.000And by the way, that was only half of him.
00:52:59.000And you said that Tiger Woods was successful in spite of his half-blackness because he was embraced in an overwhelmingly white sport by overwhelmingly white people who watched it.
00:53:07.000And in this case, ah, you know, people were like, oh, we got one.
00:53:12.000White people are going, there's one for us.
00:54:19.000Of course, we all have different burdens.
00:54:44.000And that's what Ryan Clark helps reinforce.
00:54:50.000I'm not saying that you can have a white wife, but I'm saying you are not having the kinds of conversations that I deem you should have, lest you not meet the threshold.
00:55:02.000Let's look, by the way, at some other examples.
00:55:05.000In 2012, ESPN's Rob Parker, called Griffin a cornball, said, Well, that he's black, he kind of does his thing, but he's not really down with the cause.
00:55:15.000Then there was Janelle Harris in Essence magazine a decade later.
00:55:18.000I don't totally disagree with what Parker said, because I, too, have noticed that RG3 seems hesitant to align himself with a heavy dose of black pride.
00:55:28.000Like throwing his lot in with Ryan Clark?
00:55:31.000Maybe he's not proud of what you, not all, not all, not all, not all, as a community are bringing to the table.
00:55:36.000Maybe someone can be black and not like $2 billion worth of damages and thousands of casualties and businesses shuttered forevermore in the name of Black Lives Matter.
00:55:46.000Maybe someone can be black and also think that we shouldn't venerate, to the point of sainthood, a man who died with a speedball in a system that would have killed...
00:55:58.000Maybe he's proud of himself as a man and maybe he's proud of his family and maybe he isn't proud of something, something, what you declare to be Blackness.
00:56:10.000Recently, RG3, right, did this video on Caitlin Clark.
00:56:12.000Then you have black commentator Tariq Nasheed, professional racist, said Ryan Clark was 100% correct in calling out Robert Griffin III for his comments on Angel Reese.
00:56:21.000Griffin has been tap dancing for Butter Biscuits for years.
00:57:12.000Okay, so it seems like if anyone doesn't meet your standard, do we include any black people who engage in interracial relationships?
00:57:19.000The black fatigue, it doesn't end with white people.
00:57:23.000It ends with black Americans who think it's okay to date white women.
00:57:29.000Even if it's a Kardashian, who think it's okay to do well in school, who think it's okay to listen to Metallica instead of hip-hop.
00:57:37.000I had a friend in high school who was told that he wasn't black because he listened to Iron Maiden and Megadeth.
00:57:43.000I said, Woody, you're the worst black guy ever.
00:57:45.000I agree, because he had a Canadian accent, he didn't sound very black, but the point remains.
00:57:52.000Everything now is racially charged where it would not have been 10 or 20 years ago.
00:57:59.000If you say that race relations are better now, after we've had the first black president, then in the 90s, where the most recognizable faces on earth were Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, I get it, Michael Jackson, I get that too.
00:59:22.000Hey, look, like I said, with feminism, women, you've got to start policing your own ranks.
00:59:26.000Black Americans, if you're tired of this, if you're tired of being told by elite gatekeepers in the black community what it means to be black while they also tell you that you can't understand their lived experience, hey, just so you know, you're always welcome here.
01:00:22.000We're going to go through point by point everything that he claims is a revelation and us pointing it out to you back then at that moment in time because he's lying to you.
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