00:01:30.000How about how about if you say you're going to kill the president and you're storming the gates, you don't get rubber bullets, you get bullets.
00:04:22.000It's a deterrent to those who would commit violence.
00:04:27.000I'm not even advocating political violence.
00:04:29.000I'm advocating that conservatives in half of this country not have their hands tied when they are constantly subjected to acts of violence.
00:04:40.000It's not even political to shoot someone who shows up and tries to throw acid on uh on your jacket in your face because of your opinions.
00:04:49.000It's not even political to tase tackle and maybe get a few ground and pounds into someone who's slashing your tires or firebombing your car.
00:06:26.000I mean, I know, I'm sure that Charlie went through this.
00:06:29.000You know this when we've been at Change My Minds where we have private encrypted messages, and I'm in the middle of a conversation, I have to look down, and someone says they're at the they're at the corner of X and Y Street, and you probably want to get moving all the time.
00:06:48.000And we don't know if it's a weapon, if they mean slashing tires, if they mean firebombing, if they mean kill, if they mean concrete milkshake or some acid, if they mean anthrax, ricin.
00:07:02.000Or if they just want to throw a sucker punch.
00:08:44.000Um, and uh try not to piss off Nick too much with them.
00:08:47.000If if you have seen pastors responding to this in ways that uh make you angry from church services, I've seen a few.
00:08:54.000We've had a few clips, obviously, the black pastor saying that he was a racist and a divider, and then we had uh the Jasmine Crockett church pastor.
00:09:02.000Um I found one of a church that I used to attend.
00:09:06.000Glad to uh be able to say that I used to attend that church a long time ago.
00:09:10.000Um honestly not surprised by some of the comments that I'm seeing.
00:09:13.000But if there's a what aboutism kind of thing or like an equivocation or a this is sad, but send it to me.
00:09:25.000I want to be able to kind of compile these things, dig into it just a little bit more.
00:09:29.000Maybe even confront some of these pastors and talk to them about why when somebody is shot and assassinated in front of a crowd of people for having conversations, you feel the necessity to say, but I didn't agree with XYZ from this person.
00:09:45.000Instead of just saying, this is wrong, Pastor.
00:10:14.000How can we make the left see how wrong they are?
00:10:16.000It's illogical to believe what they believe.
00:10:18.000Uh do we have to show them over and over again so that they can see what they look like?
00:10:23.000Uh listen, I I think a lot of people on the left, and and again, we have to distinguish between the people that are kind of died in the wool, like absolute crazy liberals versus just your everyday American person who may think that it's more compassionate to be left than it is to be right.
00:10:35.000People that don't pay a whole lot of attention to politics and don't really know why they believe what they believe, right?
00:10:40.000I think those are the kinds of people that you can change their minds on these these issues.
00:10:43.000And one of the reasons that we try to give you like a very concise here's why that's BS point is so that you can have those conversations.
00:10:52.000Most people don't have time to listen to you drone on and on and on for five or ten minutes, even though I I really like people being prepared and able to speak about a subject with some depth as opposed to just doing a headline.
00:11:04.000We want you to have that quick thing that gets people to go, wait a minute, I have to challenge everything that I believe about this, right?
00:11:10.000Just like the we've got a Trump supporter here, bang bang, not being included in the statistics on political violence.
00:11:16.000That was just the first thing, and then people go, Oh, well, I wonder what else wasn't included, or what other problems could there possibly be?
00:11:24.000So I think you can change those people's minds.
00:11:26.000I think the people that are just died in the wool, they're they're far leftist.
00:11:29.000I think it's very difficult, and I don't want you to waste a whole lot of time on them.
00:11:36.000After since Trump came down the escalator, uh after Russia Gate, after all the shit, the laptop, uh Zuckerberg putting a half a billion dollars into uh in the Philly area during the election.
00:11:48.000After all that stuff, all the fake things they try to charge Trump with, him getting shot in the face, Kirk dead, and you still vote Democrat?
00:12:05.000And people people that so my my point isn't that there are necessarily moderates, it's that there are a lot of people that don't pay any attention at all to what's going on.
00:12:11.000It's surprising, and we live in it, we know all those things, and you're right.
00:12:14.000So if you know all those things and you still vote for Democrats, how do you not know?
00:12:18.000How are you not aware when Trump gets shot?
00:12:25.000Yeah, no, that's why they quickly go out and be like, oh, was this somebody who was radicalized on the right, maybe who didn't like uh Donald Trump's positions.
00:12:31.000That's what they were saying about the Kirk shooter, like right after.
00:12:34.000Oh, this is one of them, you know, one of one of those MAGA guys who thought Charlie Kirk was uh anti-Israel or it was the Jews that did it, you know, can't write insinuate.
00:13:01.000So there are a lot of people out there that go can kind of wake up and go, holy crap, like I've I've been on the wrong side of this thing.
00:13:06.000So I don't think it's time to give up.
00:13:07.000I think it's time to flood the zone with as many good arguments and debates and discussions as we can possibly have to change people's minds.
00:13:16.000And just understand sometimes you're gonna be up against people that you can't change your mind.
00:13:19.000They're just they're just they're just evil people, you know, like destiny.
00:13:41.000Maybe maybe uh send it into our tip line.
00:13:44.000Uh just if you've got campuses that you guys are on, if you see people celebrating the death uh of Charlie Kirk.
00:13:49.000I I don't listen, the one of the problems that I had, uh yeah, LWC tips at ProtonMail.com.
00:13:54.000One of the problems that I had with I I don't even know who this guy was, but at the end of one of those montages that we put out um today, he basically said uh, you know, that Pete Heggsith was going through the military making sure that you bowed and prayed uh Charlie Kirk uh before his neck involuntarily did it or something like that.
00:14:49.000We're just asking for some common human decency while people are people are mourning somebody who is known and loved by a lot of people, especially on college campuses, because they have a very, very active presence on college campuses.
00:15:00.000And just maybe not be completely disrespectful in the process.
00:15:27.000Looking at right in making it at home to their phone.
00:15:29.000Showing clips of Charlie, debating with black people, hanging out with black people, and then and and they're going, you want me to believe that guy's racist.
00:16:08.000I agree with violence and meeting this.
00:16:10.000Listen, we've we've for far too long gone to the well, you know, it it's gotta be there's a proportional line, of course.
00:16:17.000If somebody's just yelling and being disruptive, of course they shouldn't be shot.
00:16:21.000But if somebody's out there being violent, I want them to know that at some point you forfeit your right to live.
00:16:27.000And at that point, I have to make a decision to protect myself, to protect my family, just like I would out in public at a restaurant.
00:16:32.000If somebody came up, I have to make a decision to where I say, like, hey, is this a situation that is going to escalate and this person's about to invade a space and get too close to me that they they might have a knife?
00:16:44.000You can't just assume all of these things, so make sure you're not violating the law.
00:16:47.000That's why we say lawful defensive violence.
00:16:51.000Because the left does need to fear that, just like we want everybody who is going to stab a girl, Yorana Zaruska, on a train to know that every single other person in that car is going to take a very, very different approach than the people on that car did.
00:17:06.000We want there to be the fear of God in everybody trying to commit an act of violence because they think the crowd is just gonna let them get away with it.
00:17:14.000You're not gonna get away with it anymore, and you should not get away with it.
00:17:17.000You should be at the very least, if you're somebody who shows up and you're gonna speak out against somebody and try to disrupt you, should be heckled and pushed out of the crowd.
00:18:18.000Well, I think let me let me clarify what I'm saying.
00:18:21.000Obviously, I feel like it was an evil act by a person who was definitely controlled by evil forces, right?
00:18:28.000Uh and I, you know, I I'm not making some kind of claim like this person was necessarily possessed, so don't think that, but this is a spiritual war that we are in, guys.
00:18:35.000Like there's I just was studying last night, 2 Kings uh six, and I believe the beginning of seven or the end of five and beginning of six, where it talks about uh the prophet Elijah and his buddy coming and saying, Hey, look at the servant, we're we're all surrounded here.
00:18:47.000This army's outside the door, and he prays, and he said, Listen, there's more of us than there are of them, and praise, and God opens his eyes and he sees the hillsides just covered with the angelic host there to defend them.
00:19:28.000Yes, that is an evil act, that is satanic.
00:19:30.000The entire part about the throat, if it's symbolic hitting the throat or something like that, because he was speaking out for Christianity.
00:19:37.000I I don't I don't really have an opinion on that.
00:19:40.000Um, but I I know that silencing somebody who was trying to not only spread Christian values, but also just basic moral decency and how he did it.
00:19:52.000I think uh I think that that's a that's a major, major part of this.
00:19:55.000I like that you use the word silenced because that's the word the left is using right now about Jimmy Kimmel, and they've used about Colbert, and it that bothers me because it's not silenced.
00:24:11.000It and look, he can he can say these things and in a vacuum, one post doesn't really rise to the level of me going, hey, that's a problem.
00:24:20.000Because that one post doesn't really say, hey, you know, go be violent to it's the back catalog of posts and comments and things that he has said about this administration.
00:24:32.000Who, by the way, if they're going to be fascist, really need to learn how to play the part.
00:24:38.000Because fascism doesn't look like giving people more rights and protecting their rights and protecting their family and hoping that they can keep a little bit more of their income and reducing the size of government, the likes of which we have not seen in our lifetimes.
00:24:50.000Like that is not what fascism looks like, guys.
00:24:53.000They're hiding highlighting, you know, silencing voices.
00:25:18.000If you're on cable news versus being on the public airwaves and being on podcasts, like we're not we're not regulating them the same way that these other people are being regulated.
00:25:29.000And you can have all your problems in your world that you want with that, but that just is what it is, right?
00:25:34.000And we already detailed why that's not the same thing as cancel culture.
00:25:37.000Remember, again, I just want to go back to Tucker, and I disagree.
00:25:40.000The reason I brought that up is because I disagree with Tucker on a lot of stuff right now.
00:25:43.000Same thing with Candace Owens, but specifically Tucker was essentially fired for a private text message to someone else that was never supposed to be public, wouldn't put an eye on the where airwaves, didn't do it in his monologue, didn't post about it, and he said something to the effect of three people were jumping another guy, and he's saying that that's abhorrent behavior for them to jump that.
00:26:09.000It said, white men don't fight like that.
00:26:11.000And he's making a point that white men typically don't gang up on somebody because he's seen so many videos like we have seen on this show of people that are black ganging up on people for no reason other than there's a fight going on.
00:26:25.000That doesn't mean you're racist, it means you're noticing kind of a trend that's happening and saying, hey, white guys typically don't fight like that.
00:26:31.000And that was what they were like, that's too much.
00:26:54.000Are there acts of terrorism part of the death throes of radical leftism?
00:26:58.000How much worse will they make it as they continue losing credibility and power?
00:27:02.000I don't know, but I do see a a bounce back coming.
00:27:05.000Um I don't know if you guys have started to see it, but I think there there is a there's kind of a uh an arc to this, right?
00:27:14.000A bit of an arc of like, hey, we you know, hey, let's tone everything down.
00:27:17.000And then we're like, hey, no, we're not gonna tone anything down.
00:27:19.000And then they kind of realize, like, hey, actually, we're starting to lose some ground, so we have to fight back, and then finding a reason to fight back.
00:27:24.000The Kimmel thing is kind of a perfect example of this where it's really motivated them, and they're like, we can't say a whole lot about anything else right now because we just don't feel like we have the authority to what we're gonna do is just denigrate Charlie Kirk, but that seems to be backfiring.
00:27:36.000Now the Kimmel thing comes out and they're like, ah, this isn't I can't believe you're not standing up for free speech.
00:27:41.000And by the way, Nick, you ought to lie, and Josh, you too.
00:27:44.000I am just it is so heartwarming to see comedians coming out and saying, hey, we shouldn't be canceling people for comedy.
00:27:54.000Yeah, that's the last hope of free speech.
00:27:56.000And I'm like, man, the only ten years too late, buddy.
00:29:45.000And but they're still handing them out, like you said, to the marginalized um I would kill at a club and come home, and I mean kill for Thursday through Saturday, and then not be asked back before I caught on to this.
00:30:01.000Um it's just it's it's you have to live it to fucking I can't, but I can't like you can't be so blind to come out and say, like Brian Stelter, of all people coming out when he was cheering all of this going on before AOC, all these people just cheering.
00:30:51.000And we'll take two more chats before we go.
00:30:52.000But I I feel like it because I see comedians now coming out and saying, I can't believe that they'd do this over somebody telling a joke, and I see other people in the media coming out and saying I I can't believe that they would do this, and not just saying the government pressuring part, because that's a whole other thing where there's cognitive dissonance, and saying, I can't believe they're trying to silence his free speech.
00:31:24.000Like Well, they're acknowledging it's real now because they're they're all coming out right now.
00:31:28.000We did the showed a tweet of Obama not too long ago.
00:31:31.000Uh and all these people uh kind of parodying the same same message, and that is, oh, the party who's been complaining about cancel culture is now in you know, participating in cancel culture.
00:32:03.000You can say the most vile things on I cannot believe that Steve got demonetized for the stuff that he got mo demonetized for.
00:32:09.000And then you listen to people like Stephen Bonell, I use this real god given name.
00:32:13.000Um and you listen to Hassan Biker and all these guys and you're like, and they stay monetized and sponsored and get spreads in like vanity fair and what what what in the world is going on here?
00:32:24.000It's the most vile people on the planet, but I can't think of another l liberal comedian that was canceled for being liberal for what they said or what they're saying.
00:33:21.000Final chat from let's see April Appling.
00:33:24.000Well, now that Antifa is considered a terrorist group, does it broaden the reach for people that can be charged as an accessory to the assassination?
00:33:32.000I mean, look, you're gonna have a really hard time charging yeah, the MSM with a crime, and I look I I don't I don't even know that we need to do that yet unless there's a specific case that I'm unaware of.
00:33:41.000Um you know, these guys calling specifically for violence.
00:33:44.000But I I will say that it is incredibly reckless to use some of the rhetoric that they have used, and there needs to be a little bit of the fear of God put in them as well.
00:33:54.000But make sure that when you are characterizing an entire movement, you don't call us something that can only be dealt with by being killed.
00:34:00.000That's literally what you've been doing right now.
00:34:03.000Um with Antifa, I'm glad that they are finally doing this because they have been a scourge on this country for years now.
00:34:11.000And forever the left has said, well, Antiva isn't really a thing.
00:34:16.000And I'm like, well, but they all have a uniform and they have a flag and they show up at places and do a ton of stuff.
00:34:21.000So you know, if you are gonna treat like white nationalists as a quote unquote terrorist threat to the greatest terrorist threat in the United States, then uh certainly Antifa would qualify as people that should be treated as a threat because they are.
00:34:36.000Show me the last time that Antifa just peacefully protested and uh made their voices heard.
00:34:42.000Uh and then show me the last time the Klan did anything.
00:34:44.000Uh well, it's seems to have been a while.
00:34:47.000But that's the kind of thing that I think is just crazy right now.
00:34:50.000We've been talking about it for years.
00:34:51.000Listen, it's not like they're late to the party and they had this change of heart.
00:34:56.000It's that finally it looks like to them that the same things that have been done to us overtly and covertly for decades are being turned on them, and really it's just a little bit of losing a ton of money on a show that was sinking in the first place.
00:35:12.000ABC taking it out, and some stations wanting to make sure that they get a merger deal approved.
00:35:18.000It's a little bit of all of those things, and it's still not cancel culture.
00:35:23.000Just as we have told you, we will see you tomorrow.