On this episode of the podcast, the brother and sister duo of the sit down with special guest and former Chief of Police at the University of Washington, Gerald "Pop" Crowder. Gerald and his partner, Josh, discuss the events of September 11th, 2001, and the impact it had on their lives and the lives of others.
00:00:41.000And we have here uh obviously Pop's Crowder who who And we're just speaking from experience here because I know what it's like to be in that chair.
00:00:50.000There aren't many people on earth who do.
00:00:53.000All comers at any point in time, come on up.
00:01:13.000You get a permit, you settle in somewhere that you can secure on campus, and then they say, sorry, you've offended people, and the administration says you have to move.
00:01:24.000And you can go back, and then you're in a different spot, and then you're on a sidewalk with a bunch of professors crossing their arms.
00:03:53.000Yeah, well, they didn't well they didn't walk out, they uh they didn't come to work.
00:03:56.000They called out and uh it was a bit of it was kind of an issue because uh it is a high turnover uh kind of kind of job, and they they needed all the hands on deck with Steven there because uh We had metal detectors.
00:04:09.000People like to buy tickets to your shows.
00:05:38.000You know what's funny too about that, uh about that spoken date with all these all the people from staff who who called out and didn't want to work because of your ideas and and what they've heard about you.
00:05:49.000Um the next week when they heard from the other staff about how you uh you are a very generous person.
00:05:56.000Um details, but you are a generous person.
00:06:40.000We have to take precautions, and Charlie had to take precautions his at least the last few years of his life that people on the left do not.
00:06:49.000Maya Angelou, for crying out loud as a cultural icon, probably drove in in a Volkswagen bug, went on stage and walked off and went to Panera.
00:07:13.000And and look, we don't talk about this a whole lot.
00:07:15.000I mean, we we've talked about the change my mind stuff where security when we were talking about getting you back out there with this and first conversation we had before we even talked to you necessarily about even if you wanted to go and how you wanted to do it was how do we how do we make this safe?
00:07:58.000Like we we have been living under this.
00:08:00.000That that shouldn't be the case for holding political opinions or ideological stances that are pro-freedom, pro your voice being heard, pro your rights being protected, pro the economy getting better for everyone.
00:08:29.000You know, the left is always saying, Can't we just have civil discussion?
00:08:32.000Can't we just sit down and talk about some of these ideas?
00:08:34.000And he said, I think I'm gonna do that.
00:08:36.000I'm gonna invite people to come up to a table.
00:08:38.000We're just gonna talk and we're gonna see if there's emotion and and and logic meeting and how we can work things out and yeah, gee, I don't know if that worked.
00:09:32.000Um and I'm sure they had more, you know, TP USA is a is uh is a big organization, and like I said, things get through.
00:09:39.000If things get through, but I just want you to not just see the horror of what happened to Charlie, but but but know what he was living with before that in the in the risk he was willing to take anyway.
00:09:52.000Know that there was a lot of blocks being put up, and there were a lot.
00:09:57.000And I had Ben Shapiro text me, look, Ben Shapiro and I have had our differences say, like, hey, thanks, you actually saved my life.
00:10:03.000Uh I said, Yeah, I know we have our differences, but I'd do it again.
00:10:42.000But the one I saw specifically, I think it was before this was at Berkeley, where there was all those riots and protests for him, just speaking.
00:10:52.000Point to me the the speaker on the left that happens too.
00:10:56.000When Dean Withers and all those guys, they're they're putting up their on F America tour.
00:11:01.000And they're basically, and most of the bios that are included on the people that are going to be there, they mentioned Charlie Kirk or Char Ly Kirk, I think is what they called him, or any other name they could come up with.
00:11:22.000He was going to Charlie Kirk's events, his prove me wrong events and going right up to the front with his cameras and his his his boys that are obviously bigger than him and yelling out stuff and trying to antagonize Charlie.
00:12:07.000Join the ones of the people who are fighting for you.
00:12:09.000Because as legging legacy media dies, the only media you're going to have left is the ones that you support.
00:12:14.000Is the it that's all you're gonna have left.
00:12:16.000And let me just when I say inflection point, let me I was talking with Lane the Brain here yesterday.
00:12:22.000And he can come in and let me know if I'm speaking out of turn because when this happened, I'm sure people here might even think I'm Kurt or a dick, because I have to keep from becoming emotional.
00:12:34.000I process it by joking, maybe trying to be uh a little bit more stone faced, and then and then went home and that's when the levee broke.
00:12:43.000Because if everyone is crying here and I am, then it makes it really hard.
00:12:49.000But we were already exhausted because Zerutska who is not to be forgotten.
00:12:52.000That's what we were covering, and and it really took its toll.
00:12:56.000And then this happened, and um and Lane, who you know does great work, just said he said, I said, I wasn't here with David Dorne.
00:13:04.000He said, I just feel like he said every the everything's been sucked out of me.
00:13:08.000He said, What do you how do you how do you deal with it?
00:13:13.000I said, Well, first off, follow a routine tonight, do what you have to do to rest, uh and get a good as good a night's sleep as you can.
00:13:23.000Won't fix it, but it'll recharge you enough to do what we have to do to do tomorrow.
00:13:29.000And then you keep doing you keep doing what you're doing.
00:13:32.000You keep doing what you're doing because it adds up, and that just doesn't apply to him, it applies to all of you.
00:13:36.000You keep putting one foot in front of the other.
00:13:38.000I said, you know, I said, Lane, and by that what I mean is today, you know, when uh when people released the sh and and ran with the story and said, This is the shooter, and you said, Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know, the guy seems crazy, but I don't know if that's the shooter, and everyone was saying, I got it, this is the shooter.
00:13:54.000I said, No one else had that internal conflict.
00:13:57.000Because you care, and you're not just trying to get a click and a click and a click and a click, but but be right and help people.
00:14:03.000I said, keep doing that because it may not be the flair in the moment, but it adds up, it adds up, the integrity adds up, and that's why someone under the umbrella of the DOJ texted us today.
00:14:16.000See, Lane, see what I'm talking about?
00:14:18.000It's they trust you, it's the credibility.
00:14:20.000And then I said, you know what, though?
00:14:48.000And I said, But what the left does, and what I mean by frog in the boiling water, stay with me here, is they push and they push and they push and they push and they push and they push, and then you find yourself at the point where you go, okay, wait, how many 15 to 20 million illegal aliens in the course of three years?
00:15:14.000How many sanctuary states where children can be ripped from their parents and hidden and given mind-altering puberty blockers and hormones?
00:16:20.000Yeah, maybe the science is in now, and we shouldn't alter the minds of young children.
00:16:24.000Add up billions and billions, and that adds up.
00:16:27.000And this frog is jumping out of that boiling water, it's been turned up slowly, and because of the seed that has been planted by people like Charlie and everyone in this movement, there's a new right wing.
00:16:52.000It's you've been killing us in startling numbers.
00:16:57.000And if you're not killing us, you're killing our reputations with lies, and we're not gonna do it anymore.
00:17:06.000We're not, you've lost the war of ideas, so now you're killing and intimidating.
00:17:14.000And we're not gonna err on the side of mercy and grace.
00:17:19.000You approach a table with anything other than a handshake, you should expect violence.
00:17:31.000You approach a concern and yell with a sign or say Hitler or genocide, at least a tackle.
00:17:38.000The left has to be so afraid, so petrified from even thinking of committing a violent crime, not even a murder, a violent crime, an assault, battery, doxing, going to your house.
00:17:55.000They have to be so terrified because the consequences are so severe that they start straightening up.
00:19:04.000Why do you think Josh for the first time had to have metal detectors at clubs?
00:19:09.000Why do you think venues see security that they've never seen before when someone comes in?
00:19:16.000Whether it's Charlie, whether it's me, whether it's Ben, whether it's Michael Knowles, whether it's Matt Walsh, they'll all tell you the same thing.
00:19:38.000Frogs jumping out of the boiling water and the seed that was planted by people like Charlie, and the work that you support and we will continue to do and not be intimidated into silence, has created a new right wing, a new conservative.
00:19:53.000That's a new conservatism, populism, right wing, whatever you want to call it, that understands the threat that we are facing.
00:20:35.000Zero associated with someone allowing anyone who wants to to come up and have a conversation and talk about taxes, gun rights, abortion, or transitioning children.
00:21:47.000I um two things that really and yeah, praying, obviously, but I'm just talking, you know, gonna try to lighten this up before we get to a seven plus one training.
00:22:13.000But we um you know, Andrew Wilson called me last last week and was like, you know, you might want to think about going out because it's been years doing change my mind again.
00:22:20.000He said, you know, you something that you started and you really should should do it, and I think especially now with what we're seeing with Gen Z, he said, yeah.
00:24:21.000And we've seen it mildly, we'll be thought with mildly with censorship and administration getting involved in private companies and what they're allowed to post and what they're allowed to let be post on their on their sites.
00:24:39.000I was talking with Lane too about this yesterday.
00:24:41.000I said, Here's the I said, here's the one thing that you can always be guaranteed.
00:24:45.000And I want you guys to listen, this is and I mean this, this is not hyperbole.
00:24:48.000I'm going to speak in an absolute, and I stand by it.
00:24:51.000Whenever there's a major tragedy, whenever there's a major conflict, whenever there's a major flash point, inflection, uh, and you don't have all the information, and you probably don't have all the answers, the only guarantee is that the answers the left will provide will be wrong.
00:25:29.000So if you were to look at Charlie Kirk's in cold blood, terrorist attack, murdered, leaving children fatherless.
00:25:38.000I hope I drive that home so that the left understands.
00:25:42.000Charlie Kirk, as you referred to him, before he started acting like his friend.
00:25:47.000If you look at that problem and go, both sides, heated rhetoric, cool it down.
00:25:53.000The solution will be wrong, because the solution will be more censorship on the biggest platforms.
00:25:59.000The predicated on the idea that both sides get radicalized and commit violence.
00:26:05.000Now, if you start with the truth, which the left cannot, they are incapable of doing, which is only one side is experiencing this level of violence.
00:26:15.000The solution will be hey, maybe we need to stop marginalizing and demonizing the half of the country that elects presidents and the president on the world's biggest platforms.
00:26:27.000The solution the left offers will be wrong.
00:26:30.000When you look at Zarutska, and you see what happened, the left, starting with the Colonel, the Colonel is a mistruth.
00:27:13.000If you start and you look at Zerutska and you go, okay, what we're watching is a woman dying, senselessly alone but in public, at the hands of someone who is 12 times more likely to kill her white than a white person is a black person, and that's been going on for a long time.
00:27:34.000Your solution will be: hey, we need to stop with the laws that pandered to and cater to criminals.
00:27:43.000The left looks at those crime statistics.
00:27:47.000And by the way, I've spent a lot of time looking at the arguments from the left.
00:27:50.000Do you know what their entire argument is?
00:28:43.000You look at that problem, and what you have is something that was always classified as a mental illness, a mental disorder, gender dysphoria, where people had the delusion that they were in the wrong body.
00:28:58.000Now, the left will start with a kernel of a lie or a mistruth and go, hey, actually, it seems that they're born in the wrong body.
00:29:12.000And so we need to be empathetic and we need to enable, we need to empower these people to change all the facets of their body and hormones that don't match up with the right body.
00:29:29.000You can even find clips of that in Law and Order SVU where they actually say it uh happens when a boy is born with a girl brain or a girl is born with a boy brain.
00:29:38.000The solution's gonna be wrong, because if you look at the truth, you go, okay, what do we have as far as studies?
00:29:43.000What do we have as far as the most comprehensive study?
00:29:45.000Do all studies ever conducted show that a transgender individual, if he is biologically a male, and they examine the brain, confirm that it's a male brain, and the same for females, yes, the solution would be this is a disorder that is not in line with biology, and so we need to help them because they're sick.
00:30:11.000If you look at immigration, and the left starts with a mistruth, the left starts with a lie, that colonel.
00:30:22.000Hey, these are just people seeking a better life.
00:30:25.000And we're a nation of immigrants, and you know what?
00:30:27.000They're a net benefit to this country, so we need to allow more of it to the tune of 15 to 20 million in three years.
00:30:34.000But if you start with the truth, not all of them are just seeking a better life.
00:30:40.000There is a large criminal component, and even those who are not a part of the critical criminal component enable the planet right now to have more slaves on earth than ever in history, over 50 million.
00:30:54.000That flourishes under open borders, underage sex slaves require democratic policy for immigration.
00:31:38.000That's and the solution is wrong because 94% of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones.
00:31:46.000And we know if you look at the truth, firearms are used far more in defensive uses than in mass shootings, and it's not even close, and there's no way to get rid of them.
00:31:57.000The only guarantee we don't have all the answers.
00:32:01.000By the way, I even see those in the left right now with Charlie Kirk.
00:33:30.000Again, we kind of live in a bubble here uh when we're in this studio.
00:33:33.000So this morning, and this was because of uh the undercover uh unit who uh have done great work, you know, with the Nashville Manifesto with Jay Varma, the COVID architect with the DOJ stories with Donald Trump.
00:33:46.000Um because you've supported them with your membership and uh because the trust credibility built, they were sent this morning a leak that was nowhere else from someone under the DOJ in detail.
00:33:58.000And the reason this was sent to Jay in our undercover unit is because this person was concerned that it may be buried.
00:34:07.000So this is part of the ATF memo regarding the shooting.
00:34:12.000Multiple SLC1 and three agents responded immediately.
00:34:15.000The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on a rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus, and surveillance video shows a suspect jumping off and fleeing the area on foot.
00:34:24.000ATF and other law enforcement located in older model imported Mauser 306 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus.
00:34:35.000The location of the firearm appears to match the suspect's route of travel.
00:34:39.000The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds.
00:34:44.000All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
00:34:54.000An emergency trace has been submitted in ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace.
00:34:59.000They're taking uh the ammunition, the firearm, and examining it.
00:35:03.000But just to be clear, it was a bullet engraved with the ideology that has been echoed from all of media, the left, every single presidential candidate for the last call it eight years.
00:35:21.000And the reason that we were sent this, you know, an illegitimate online entertainment show, if you hear NPR say it, is because someone under the DOJ was concerned that this would be buried.
00:35:37.000Was concerned that this may not get out there.
00:36:20.000So Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is basically saying they're calling for Muslims in the United States to commit acts of terror and attempt to assassinate President Trump, VP Vance, Secretary Rubio, and Sekdev Heg Seth, uh, all Muslims in the United States to commit an act of violence in jihad and uh choose your government targets wisely.
00:36:38.000So this is coming from Spec Ops Command.
00:36:51.000It's kind of a you know, it it's it's something that I'm sure that they've had eyes on before, but this was sent to us as something that was very relevant today for everybody to be aware of.
00:36:58.000So especially if you're um in communities with a heavy kind of population, or just it's just keep your head on a swivel day.
00:37:53.000I would rather see I would rather see that than see another Charlie Kirk.
00:38:01.000And and believe me, the left would like as many as possible.
00:38:05.000They'll feign outrage or sadness today just long enough so that they can claim they didn't, you know, this is something that they never saw coming and didn't want.
00:38:15.000Or they do it so they can mask the next thing they're about to say.
00:39:12.000It shouldn't happen to anybody, but I know you want to lump it together with everything else that's happened and try to paint a picture of escalating tensions in America.
00:40:11.000Got dragged out, and everyone said, Oh, here's a shooter.
00:40:14.000People aren't deleting their post, by the way.
00:40:16.000No, those people those people got those clicks.
00:40:17.000Yeah, they got those clicks and they're leaving it up so they can get more clicks because you get eight cents for every thousand clicks you get on Twitter or whatever the hell it is.
00:40:23.000And before you go on, I just want to say when I say support those on the right, not a single one who does that.
00:40:28.000Not a single one who's posted false information, like for example, uh Zaruka had that Black Lives Matter flag in her room when it turned out to be a friend.
00:41:23.000200 yards is not a far shot, first of all, especially if you even a cheap optic.
00:41:28.000Yes you get a two by four buy on a four four-by-optic that costs under three hundred bucks, ten minute YouTube video, thirty minutes in the range.
00:41:37.000Well, here's a you've got your gun zeroed.
00:42:49.000And by the way, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.
00:42:51.000It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense because he was criticized by all the people who hate Israel because he was too pro-Israel, Charlie Kirk, right?
00:42:57.000No, but it's these these people that are out there.
00:42:59.000Well, but Josh knows because you've you've shot professionally.
00:45:09.000Permeate everything and ruin everything.
00:45:13.000And it's actually been a real problem.
00:45:15.000We were talking about this story in the video game industry, where there were a lot, there was a disproportionate number of developers and video game designers, transgender, and the community was pushing back.
00:48:55.000But we know that didn't happen with Nashville.
00:48:56.000We don't know it didn't happen with the DOJ.
00:48:58.000We know that didn't happen with um I forgot the name in uh Chippewa Falls.
00:49:02.000Um the credibility has been built with uh with with the team here and people trust them and we protect our sources and and of course everything we do every day and and the ability to speak as we do.
00:49:12.000We are supported, funded by viewers like you.
00:49:15.000We don't have a nonprofit, we don't have giant backers, we don't have a Raytheon sponsorship, we have a few sponsors every now and then, but about 90% of it comes from from you and your support.
00:49:27.000Truly independent and number one out there in the longest running show.
00:49:31.000So thank you, and we'll continue to do it as long as we can.
00:49:35.000It's time to fight like hell, and and uh we'll do it the only way we know how.
00:49:38.000Support everyone out there who is who's standing in the pocket for you.
00:50:04.000You're on that side, I'm on this side.
00:50:06.000If you want to take my kids, if if uh you want to take away my guns, if you want to take away my speech, if you want to make us like Europe where I can be arrested for a meme, you're on that side, I'm on this side.
00:50:15.000And your approach now is stay on your side.
00:50:18.000Gerald said, you know, only one side is uneasy, and that's true.
00:50:24.000And I don't mean make the left uneasy and have the same tension like you do, simply going out in public or at an e at some kind of an event just existing because the left may attack you.
00:50:34.000Make them very, very uneasy in approaching you with anything that even hints at aggression.
00:50:42.000If they come to you, do not assume it's a dialogue.
00:52:10.000And Charlie Kirk, you know, could be when people are always so concerned about platforming the right.
00:52:13.000Charlie Kirk platformed a guy, Gavin Newsom, who enabled the Black Lives Matter riots and the radicalism in his very state that created the environment under which Charlie Kirk was slaughtered.
00:52:25.000We can't have that same double standard anymore.
00:52:29.000Hope I have the authority to say I say this as the guy who created and started change my mind.
00:52:34.000And I am telling you that most of that is out the window.
00:52:46.000They need to be embarrassed and they need to be scared.
00:52:48.000As far as your pastor, sounds to me like you're in one of them new fangled Protestant churches, maybe an episcopalian one where gee golly, the ultimate value is just make sure everyone is nice.
00:53:39.000He shouldn't come out, he shouldn't come out of the baptismal tank like Rambo 2 with guns at the way.
00:53:45.000What I'm saying is that's not it's the message, the only message that would be acceptable to me from a pastor is evil will always be amongst you.
00:53:52.000And we see evil, and we see, we see the satanic influence in one side of America today.
00:54:01.000We see the results on one side of America today, telling you to kill your babies in record numbers, telling you that you are not fearfully and wonderfully created, telling you that God didn't number the hairs on your head before you were born, telling you that God makes mistakes, telling you that as a Christian, you should have your empathy used against you and ignore crime statistics and immigration, and that it's compassionate to have your money stolen from you and given to people who seek to break down the only remaining Christian nation.
00:54:40.000I want to hear the context, but it doesn't sound like there's a whole lot of context that makes that a whole lot better.
00:54:43.000I understand the idea of like people being motivated to go out into the streets and saying, hey, like I wish people would have done that to the BLM people.
00:54:50.000I wish people would have set up and hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, wait.
00:54:53.000Wait, you don't have all the information yet.
00:54:55.000Don't get riled up because of these guys.
00:56:37.000If that person, God forbid, took someone else out, and a member of the Kirk family blew him away, the left, a hundred, two hundred years from now, would teach, well, you have radical right-wing extremists.
00:57:04.000I said, you know, the thing is, the reason that you care about getting it right, the reason that you don't run the false story of this shooter, the reason that you don't run the false story of that, you know, the Epstein shit that happened, the reason that you've been right and you built the credibility that allows the leaks to us, like you saw today, I said, is because we all start off with the point here that human beings are evil and sinful.
00:57:24.000I said, and isn't that something that the people who most folks would say that's a dark view, who understand that we are sinful, that we are inherently evil, it's constantly there.
00:57:33.000It's constantly checking you where you're going, I want to, but wait, is that my evil?
00:57:42.000Is it right to lie to people for clicks?
00:57:43.000Wait, is it right to insert commit whatever act here?
00:57:47.000And the people on the left who want you to believe that human beings are inherently good, it's required for socialism, it never checks them.
00:59:03.000I tell you what, because we were talking about coming back where we were going to announce, funny enough this week.
00:59:07.000Um change my mind's not feasible, but uh if people say both sides and we need to let cooler heads prevail, we're gonna be announcing PhD professors at Ivy Leagues.
00:59:18.000They can name the time and place, and I will debate them formally on a stage with the moderator of their choosing and the rules of their choosing.
00:59:27.000And it will be an invitation to people with great specificity.
00:59:32.000And we will offer money to the school or to some kind of a charity of their choosing, because what you need to know is it's not about the kids being ignorant.
00:59:42.000That's not what what what what was proven with what Charlie did or or any of this?
00:59:46.000It's it's the institution, the faculty.
00:59:50.000Why why have they never heard this before?
00:59:53.000So the next step, and something that could probably be done a little bit safer.
01:00:00.000Now I want to go to the professors, the same professors who revoked those permits for people like Charlie and myself and make make those events unsafe.
01:00:07.000I want to go for those professors who claim they want to cool temperatures, and you name the time and place.
01:00:14.000Name the time and place, and we can have that debate.
01:00:17.000So at least at least it won't be the first time that people are are hearing these ideas online.
01:01:18.000You believe Donald Trump supports killing six million Jews?
01:01:21.000The answer, of course, they'll tiptoe.
01:01:22.000So you believe he's a member of the National Socialist Party.
01:01:27.000Well, what about him makes him a a Nazi?
01:01:29.000And if you could travel back in time and you could take you could take out, you could stop, you could kill Hitler or the Gestapo gassing Jews, would you?
01:03:07.000Not even what it's not even what about it, because what aboutism is trying to draw a parallel in this case like, yeah, but what about this thing that's completely unrelated?
01:03:15.000How about you shut up and understand that and I'm not gonna lie to you, I've been really consumed with this because it hits close to home, and I don't know as much about the shooting in Colorado as I would about other shootings because we were consumed with Zarutska and Kirk and boy, it's like a fire hose right now.
01:03:27.000But of course, my my heart goes out to the families affected there.
01:03:54.000And I want to go to what you you were saying, Josh, but a good example of this was yesterday.
01:03:58.000When Trump, we talked about President Trump said uh uh Zerutsk, I believe he said something like, and this woman never had a problem her whole life, and people jumped on that.
01:04:09.000It was very clear contextually that he was saying she never caused a problem.
01:04:13.000But they were trying to say this he's insensitive to her, she left the war zone.
01:04:42.000By the way, the significant thing, uh, just a quick update.
01:04:44.000This happened probably ten minutes ago there.
01:04:45.000Offering a hundred thousand dollars now uh for information leading to this person's uh capture or you know, getting in touch with them.
01:04:53.000That's all that's the FBI offering an award of up to a hundred thousand dollars for information leading to the identification and arrest of the individual.
01:07:06.000They used to claim he was a godless man or at least a deist was their argument with him and Jefferson.
01:07:12.000Well, lucky for Ben Franklin, he didn't have to worry about Congress uh having a uh circumcised brother marrying senator or repo representative.
01:09:41.000Not in California on a comp college campus.
01:09:43.000Yeah, that was what I was trying to tell us.
01:09:44.000Like and in uh where this took place, where Charlie Cook was uh students are allowed to carry firearms, even out in the open, and uh that's uh what you can shut up.
01:11:09.000And I know that some people will be horribly offended and say that we're not allowed to laugh today, but that's also what makes us us, and it adds up.
01:11:21.000Should we demand the senators and representatives that actively called for conservatives to be attacked and harassed, be forced to step down?
01:11:51.000Assuming that it's a venue, right, where you're allowed to do this.
01:11:54.000Like it's different if it's a performance and it's it's a one-way performance, but if it's a town hall where they're supposed to ask questions, or if they're in a public space, uh, where it would be a reasonable expectation for their constituents to ask questions of them, and of course you are not threatening or violent.
01:12:09.000Grill them and don't let them simply obfuscate.
01:12:13.000It's okay if people get annoyed with you for doing it.
01:12:15.000I don't want what was it, Maxine Waters and they should never have peace and dinners and shit.
01:13:07.000I was now uh yeah, I would I don't want you to harass them and hurt them the way Maxine Waters implied, but I do want you to demand answers of them.
01:13:17.000Make hey, if you're tense because you're worried about being blown away or hit with the bike lock, at least make them a little tense that they may be confronted with the truth.
01:13:33.000As a guy who wants to step into the political arena, how do I do so knowing I have a little one on the way and a wife that I have a hard time knowing they'd be put in harm's way?
01:14:11.000And I will say this with a change my mind.
01:14:13.000We had a handbook of things to do and things not to do.
01:14:17.000Uh don't announce it, don't give people your whereabouts, uh, do not try and uh create a big crowd, do not antagonize the crowd, keep it intimate, keep it quiet, make sure you are only in a place where you can secure the perimeter and you feel confident in that.
01:14:37.000That's why we switched to, for example, talking with people, because change my you know, you're safer as a mobile unit with security if you go from one city to the next or different areas of the city.
01:14:46.000Um so take those precautions in your personal life, make sure your house is unlisted, make sure you have a security system, uh, guns, a guard dog, all of that.
01:14:56.000Make sure you have situational awareness.
01:14:59.000And then if you're planning on entering, because here's the thing if you're planning on entering the political arena, meaning this space.
01:15:06.000Um that for every um Charlie Kirk or Ben Shapiro or Rush Limbaugh or uh Dan Bongino or people here, whoever you see.
01:15:15.000No, there there's there's many tens of thousands who who don't uh do well.
01:15:31.000That's one thing that we definitely shared in common.
01:15:33.000I know that that guy was a work horse.
01:15:35.000Uh and yep, he had some some resources and stuff that maybe you don't, and I understand that, but that doesn't change the fact that most people who think they're gonna enter don't know if they if you want to do this full time, the waters you'll be swimming in.
01:15:49.000I will tell you the reason that people like Charlie and myself uh and Ben and people I know who are really successful um in this movement, um the reason that they're under threat is because for years, for years, 18-hour days where I ate, slept, breathe.
01:16:06.000It's all I thought about, all I worked for all the time and shaved years off of my life because not only is it something that I want to do, I was so scared that it wouldn't work and that it wouldn't be successful, and that it mattered enough because we could change the direction of this country that it was all encompassing to the point of obsessive, and I know That's the same thing with someone like a Charlie Kirk and someone like a I know that it is.
01:17:07.000And if hey, if you're willing to do that for years, to the point where nothing else matters, that's even close, and there's no balance whatsoever.
01:18:04.000So uh I just just don't want you to say that no one told no one told you.
01:18:08.000I can't tell you how many people a lot of those guys, you yourself included, Charlie, all the other people that are really successful at doing this.
01:18:13.000They all started before they formed a family, before they had children.
01:19:04.000And uh, if it works, I would stand up fine.
01:19:06.000It's a fun hobby every once in a while.
01:19:07.000I get away from the house and have a beer and tell some jokes, and if it ever works out, then I'll I'll spend more time on it and pursue it.
01:19:13.000And you're very funny, but you have you certainly have more like work uh work life balance.
01:19:17.000I mean, look, Charlie believed in it and and and paid with his life in a senseless act of violence.
01:19:55.000Where that was really the primary reason because you can't imagine them being told uh, hey, this happened and to your dad and them going that why why was he doing that?
01:20:05.000They're they're they're always gonna so that changed.
01:20:08.000It's it's different, just know what it entails, it encompasses, and it's and it's very un unlikely.
01:20:15.000I would advise you to have a really positive impact in the way that's uh more commensurate with the kind of work life balance that that you want to have.
01:20:22.000Because there's a very tall price to pay, and and sometimes um people don't take it into account.
01:20:27.000Next, and CNN before you do that is is really trendy.
01:20:31.000They just uh a few minutes ago had uh the Gretten Gretchen Whitmer plot, January 6th, Paul Pelosi's attack, and they swept the screen with all these as though they're these things are the same, and and then uh included Charlie Kirk and these other things.
01:20:48.000So they're gonna try to both sides it, and the average person that watches this.
01:21:57.000Um, no, you you might hate him on a so you know, just uh putting the same thing in the last few years we've seen the plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitman.
01:22:05.000Storming of the Capitol and Pipe Bombs left at the RNC and DNC, the break-in to kidnap Nancy Pelosi and the brutal on Paul Pelosi, multiple assassination attempts against Trump, and here's why you're probably gonna hate him even more.
01:22:20.000The assassination of Minnesota House Speaker, Melissa.
01:22:23.000I can't remember Melissa Hortman and her husband and the shooting of on state Senator John Hoffman's wife.
01:22:30.000So part of my problem with this list is you're equating all of these things to one side or the other.
01:22:37.000We're not saying that there's not political violence that affects people.
01:22:41.000What we're saying is you can't say a crazy guy in an isolated incident doing something is the same as somebody having trans ideology and anti-fascist uh uh comments on the shell casings killing somebody who's speaking on it.
01:24:22.000But they they equate this here and they're trying to go both sides, and what they don't realize is that they're trying to do that when the flash point here, Charlie Kirk, part of his message was, and don't forget, it's not both sides.
01:24:37.000And so when he gets killed by the one side that he's been saying, see, this is the side that is violent, and I don't advocate that.
01:24:42.000And I'm willing to have conversations.
01:24:44.000And remember, everybody, just like I've been saying, I know Charlie Kirk was saying this.
01:25:42.000Like, what are the if they're if they're if they're if they're accurate with that, but being set deceitful, what would have a cultural phrase for trans rights activists, which they have rights, uh, or a uh anti-facetable.
01:25:54.000Well, no one thinks of trans as cultural.
01:26:20.000Charlie Kirk opposed the civil rights act called George Floyd Scumbag, said he'd be worried about black pilots and that he'd force his daughter to carry a pregnancy to term if she was raped.
01:26:29.000He shouldn't have been killed, but definitely was an extremist.
01:26:51.000He wouldn't allow his daughter to commit murder because he wouldn't want his daughter to answer an act of evil with an equal act of evil because he would be consistent.
01:27:02.000See, we can both do that, you piece of shit.
01:27:05.000In the bigger context, you're worried about DEI hires as pilots.
01:27:45.000He shows up at a barbecue with you go, wait, careful.
01:27:48.000That's the guy who robbed the woman at gunpoint with uh her kid there and uh beat the shit out of her and her, and uh, you know, he might be on a speed ball.
01:27:56.000You'd go, let's make sure the kids are away from George Floyd.
01:28:11.000I mean, we've got debunking of the DEI quote.
01:28:13.000He's basically like saying, I that's not who I am, that's not what I believe, but he's been forced to believe that because of DEI policy, saying, Man, I hope that person's qualified.
01:29:35.000By the way, how many how many shots been taken at uh is it his uncle uh uh Uyghur there at Young Turks or or uh uh uh whatever his name is Wasanabe Hasanabe.
01:30:39.000Hey, Ben Shapiro, we see you, we hear you.
01:30:42.000People had sawed off shotguns ready for you when the media wasn't interested.
01:30:46.000You know, like I said, it's it's celebrate the man who was willing to take the risks knowing, because Charlie Kirk, like all of us, had to deal with consequences on an ongoing basis and had to manage the risk.
01:30:59.000And what you are seeing is in a in an absolute tragic fashion, one that got through because we are all constantly, constantly having to block, block, block, block, and put up measures.
01:31:12.000And I'm telling you, the left doesn't.
01:31:16.000I know, I know it because when I would, for God's sakes, when I would do things at HLN, uh I was a Fox News for four and a half years, and I would go over to the liberal networks or local news, they would just be walking around, not even having security.
01:31:29.000And I remember back then Sean Hannity having to walk around with a whole like a whole detail.
01:32:12.000I wonder if Joe Rogan would tell you there has to there's been a change.
01:32:15.000I wonder if Joe Rogan would tell you that, oh, the second he went to like before you get to someone being blown away and it's awful in this way.
01:32:22.000I just don't want you to forget about it in two days or two weeks.
01:32:25.000Because them saying that Joe Rogan is advocating horse paste and changing the tint to lie to you about him is enough.
01:33:00.000Oh, they're a bad ball, they're bad hard to work with K. But the point is they try and destroy the reputation, and it's a block and it's a block and it's a block.
01:33:11.000And when you live with these lies and you see it, and we see it today, that's why we try and show it to you so you see it in real time.
01:33:58.000And I think you guys saw it before what happened with Charlie, and I think the waves taking place that week and the reaction therein made it really clear.
01:34:10.000I I can't think of any other time in my life where you had something that galvanized people so much because specifically because they were being lied to, right, Zarutska, where they were being gaslit immediately.
01:35:46.000I think it's I've never remember I can't remember anything in my lifetime where you've had a situation where it's it's it's happened as a one-two like this, and it's the same problem.
01:35:56.000Um, and I know the left said, well, it shows it's gun control.
01:35:59.000It's no, it could be a white shooter, so no, no, no, no, that's not what we're talking about.
01:36:02.000We're talking about the same problem of the enablement and the uh propagandizing of the evil left.
01:36:11.000The only reason, the only reason that Zerutska is dead is because people had consumed enough propaganda to believe that my God, this criminal should be out on time 14.
01:36:21.000We've been doing it the left's way with that judge, with that DA, with that record.
01:36:28.000That was the result of the left's policies.
01:36:31.000We went along with them and said, okay, target it's targeting, it's not crime, it's targeting, it's racial bias.
01:36:36.000Okay, it's uh discriminatory because it's a system that is predicated on you know, black people being more likely to commit crime, so they're disproportionately affected.
01:36:50.000Not that you know when it will happen or how it will happen, but that something like this will happen, and then you get to Charlie Kirk, and you go.
01:36:58.000This is the result of vilifying anyone who dares to speak out and put their money where their mouth is and have some skin in the game.
01:37:09.000This is what happens when you vilify every single one of those people as a Nazi, an abuser, a genocidal maniac, a violator of civil rights, a homophobe, a racist, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, liar, radical.
01:37:27.000The reason that Charlie Kirk, I guarantee the person who did it, there is no reason, just to be clear.
01:37:34.000Again, Grace, don't try and twist my words.
01:37:36.000The reason the shooter would say that he shot Charlie Kirk is because Charlie Kirk was a danger and radicalizing youth.
01:37:44.000Radicalizing youth to lower lower the marginal tax rates, radicalizing youth to say you should have to wait until you're 18 to make decisions regarding your sexual reproduction capabilities for the rest of your life, radicalizing the youth by saying, hey, you should be merit-based and not DEI.
01:38:02.000Radicalizing youth by encouraging them to carry babies and raise them, or if not capable, put them up for adoption.
01:38:51.000The reason the shooter, the reason the piece of shit terrorist took Charlie Kirk's life, is because he believed that Charlie Kirk, just as he believes that us and you are radicalizing the youth.
01:39:04.000How often have you heard about echo chambers, right?
01:39:06.000We need to stop the radicalizing echo chamber.
01:40:19.000If everyone in your neighborhood was Charlie Kirk, you'd have a pretty good neighborhood.
01:40:25.000Whether you would agree with him on everything or not, it'd be a pretty good neighborhood.
01:40:33.000If everyone in your neighborhood believed what that shooter believed, that Charlie Kirk is radicalizing the youth and anyone on the right wing, you'd have a bloodbath.
01:40:44.000Your neighborhood will be a bloodbath.
01:40:48.000And so I ask you, who is radicalizing who?
01:40:51.000Because like I told you before, the only guarantee when you don't have complete information, when you're looking for answers and you don't have them, you can't make definitive claims in a lot of ways if you don't have the whole picture except one.
01:41:10.000The left's prescription and answer will be wrong.
01:41:17.000And so they start with the kernel of a lie, Charlie Kirk.
01:41:41.000The less severe version is you don't get to speak.
01:41:44.000People like Charlie, people like us, people like you don't get to speak.
01:41:48.000The severe version is people believe that kernel of a lie and they go and do what this piece of shit leftist terrorists did to Charlie Kirk.
01:41:58.000You start with the truth with an incomplete picture.
01:42:03.000Charlie Kirk is not the first to experience an act of violence.
01:42:06.000It's not the first time he himself experienced an act of violence.
01:42:21.000If all your neighbors were Charlie Kirk, you'd have a pretty good neighborhood.
01:42:25.000If all your neighbors believed, as the shooter did, what CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, what leftist media and their big tech enablers believe, you'd have a lot more dead Charlie Kirks.
01:42:37.000and What kind of America do you want to live in?
01:42:46.000And when you when you pick your side, everything you can do to fight like hell every single moment.
01:42:58.000Fight like hell, the meaning doesn't change.